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Title: Amazon Payments Master Thread (RIP 10/13/14)
Post by: Yordai Dooma on September 03, 2010, 02:18:29 PM
What do you guys think of this one:
https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/personal/textpayme/faq

Amazon has started allowing people to send each other money for free.
I haven't tried it yet, but from reading on other sites, it seems you can send someone up to $500 from a bank account and up to $1000 if you fund it from a ...Credit card!!! These limits are per month.

So if i send my wife $1000 and she sends me $1000 every month...that's some easy starpoints and an easy way to meet a spending threshold.
It can also be an easy way to pay someone for something and use a credit card and get points..like a babysitter!

Select people reported that if they sent $1000 each time, their account was closed for going over the limit Maybe its a good idea to send $900 or something like that. It also has bee reported as going through as a charge and not as cash advance.

I also saw that if you verify a bank account, you can increase your limit. I wonder if that would increase your limit on sending money via credit card as well.

Wonders if too much of this could lead to them shutting down my regular account. In the report i saw of someone getting their account closed, the email specified that they were closing his "amazon payments" account...

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yordai Dooma on September 03, 2010, 04:59:36 PM
Has this been going on for a while already? I was thinking this could be the new way to "mint" starwood points, on a much smaller scale of course.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MarkS on September 03, 2010, 06:28:23 PM
Looks like a good idea. I made a payment from one account to another. It gives an option of payment for Goods/Services or Cash Advance.  It says that the cash advance option will be treated by your CC as a cash advance so I assume it follows that Goods/Services are indeed a free way to earn miles.     

I made myself a payment of $950. At first it wasn't working bec. I hadn't linked my bank acount so it said I have a limit of $500. Once I linked my account (and verified it) I made the $950 payment which posted instantly to the other amazon account. It seems that verifying gets you from $500 to $1000 but there is no way to do more in a month.  I am withdrawing from my 2nd amazon acct to my bank which it says takes 5 business days.

Has this been going on for a while already? I was thinking this could be the new way to "mint" starwood points, on a much smaller scale of course.

$1000 per month is def a small scale but if you have a few amazon accounts.....It all adds up!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on September 03, 2010, 06:35:49 PM
I wouldn't do this from your main amazon account.  Not worth getting banned over.

It does sound very intriguing though.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yellow on September 03, 2010, 07:57:21 PM
Has this been going on for a while already? I was thinking this could be the new way to "mint" starwood points, on a much smaller scale of course.
Yes that would be awesome... the mint is really annoying (waiting for the coins, having to be home when they get delivered, dealing with depositing them etc)
I wouldn't do this from your main amazon account.  Not worth getting banned over.

It does sound very intriguing though.

What do you mean by "main" amazon account
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Chaikel on September 04, 2010, 01:33:19 PM
And there are no fees?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 04, 2010, 07:16:11 PM
I have a great way to achieve free spending (and getting money back) via visa/mastercard.

The condition would be to change your billing address, to a non usa or israel address.
And have a non usa bank account, which isn't a big deal.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MarkS on September 04, 2010, 09:11:55 PM
And there are no fees?
I did it from one account to another with no fees.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on September 04, 2010, 09:54:59 PM
BEWARE people are getting nailed I have a friend who has been asked to verify his accounts afte doing this, dunno all the details.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yordai Dooma on September 04, 2010, 10:05:23 PM
There are no fees and to be honest i plan to use this legit. Im going to pay our babysitter with this and then transfer the funds from the amazon account to her account. This saves us from writing checks, we get points for it, and she gets direct deposit.

BEWARE people are getting nailed I have a friend who has been asked to verify his accounts afte doing this, dunno all the details.

What do you mean by verify accounts? Verify his bank accounts? How is that getting nailed?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on September 05, 2010, 03:26:43 AM
As I said no details are avilable to me now, but it didn't sound like verifying bank accounts.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shlomi on September 05, 2010, 07:20:21 AM
I have a great way to achieve free spending (and getting money back) via visa/mastercard.

The condition would be to change your billing address, to a non usa or israel address.
And have a non usa bank account, which isn't a big deal.

What do you mean by that?
How could you get free spending cause you have an account in Israel?
You could do it only on specific cards?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: andrew on September 05, 2010, 08:07:13 AM
it seems like this could only be done with a mobile phone, does anyone know how to do it by computer
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Chaikel on September 05, 2010, 08:13:45 AM
it seems like this could only be done with a mobile phone, does anyone know how to do it by computer
https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/overview
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on September 05, 2010, 11:25:10 AM

What do you mean by verify accounts? Verify his bank accounts? How is that getting nailed?

Perhaps he wasn't using his main amazon account and amazon want's proof of who he is. Just guessing.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on September 05, 2010, 11:28:49 AM
He made new accounts for his kids and they want proof of his kids identity, however they didn't freeze the accounts!!!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on September 05, 2010, 04:24:14 PM
I have a great way to achieve free spending (and getting money back) via visa/mastercard.

The condition would be to change your billing address, to a non usa or israel address.
And have a non usa bank account, which isn't a big deal.

Are you gonna let us in on it? Is it perhaps the online poker thing you mentioned long ago?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 05, 2010, 04:52:58 PM
Alright: its not the poker thing, but close enough, and as its run by pretty smart people (not the customer service) placing here a link wouldn't be wise.

What you need: cc with non-usa, or canada or israel mailing address (just change your address).
A bank account which isn't usa, canadian or israeli.
There are more countries excluded, but mostly crazy ones.

When adding funds to your account (I wouldn't add over $2500 @ the time), it cost them a little percentage, which they take to their own account, and credit your bankroll with the amount you paid.

Note: make sure that you don't get bonus money for depositing, as it blocks your money, until you have played (wagered) x times your money.
(Unless you know what you are doing, and wagering is about 2x, but please don't feel tempted to do so, I won't be responsible).

You request a cashout, but try not to do it immediately, and try maybe in a few times. Cashouts works perfectly with mastercards, and I would assume (but still ask,) also with visa.

You can make up several accounts (using additional cards, but remember that theoretically they can ask for a copy of I'd, which you would want to have.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 05, 2010, 04:55:20 PM
And hey, they keep track of IP addresses and such.
I once logged in from a different country, and I had to call to unlock my account.

This was done to protect me.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on September 05, 2010, 06:44:32 PM
Sounds good, but how do you know they won't walk away with your money? Are they a reputable company and who governs them?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 06, 2010, 06:57:54 AM
They are always off shore, I've kicked through them $10k's.

Once a payment didn't go through, so I was put in touch with an agent, who stayed in touch with me till it got solved.

(The problem was that my bank had changed some of their international agreements concerning transfers, while the transfer was being done)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yordai Dooma on September 13, 2010, 05:13:07 PM
Does anyone have any updates on using amazon payments? As in issues?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yordai Dooma on September 15, 2010, 01:27:15 PM
Perhaps he wasn't using his main amazon account and amazon want's proof of who he is. Just guessing.

It seems they are verifying now by asking you to put in your Drivers license number when adding a bank account to verify your identity (not sure if they were always doing that)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MarkS on November 03, 2010, 09:26:27 AM
Just got this email from Amazon:

Greetings from Amazon Payments.
This message is to inform you that we have blocked your Amazon Payments account and are unable to process your recent transactions. A recent review indicates that payments were made between two accounts under your control. Making payments between accounts under shared ownership is a violation of our user agreement.

4.2.5 Credit Cards: You may not use your credit card to make payments to yourself or to add money to your account.
https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/about?nodeId=6019
You can respond to this email with specific reasons for these payments. We will review the block on your account based on your response.
Please understand that we take such steps in the interest of maintaining a secure transaction environment.
Sincerely,
Account Specialist
Amazon Payments
https://payments.amazon.com
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MarkS on November 03, 2010, 05:30:03 PM
So I just got a call from the financial review team at Amex! They want to know why I have so many charges on my card for $950 to Amazon Payments. I said it's to pay people I owe money to. She wanted to see receipts and bills to explain where the money is going to and I explained that I withdraw the money to my bank account to pay people directly from my bank account. She went on and on about how thats a cash advance and even though Amazon processes it as a cc transaction, it's against the terms and conditions of my card to use it to get cash.............
She threatened to close my account and said I should send in all my bank statements and she will see if my cards can stay open and at what limits. :-[ :'(
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Monsey on November 03, 2010, 07:03:07 PM
WOW!! You got hit from amazon and amex on the same day
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 03, 2010, 07:20:46 PM
So I just got a call from the financial review team at Amex! They want to know why I have so many charges on my card for $950 to Amazon Payments. I said it's to pay people I owe money to. She wanted to see receipts and bills to explain where the money is going to and I explained that I withdraw the money to my bank account to pay people directly from my bank account. She went on and on about how thats a cash advance and even though Amazon processes it as a cc transaction, it's against the terms and conditions of my card to use it to get cash.............
She threatened to close my account and said I should send in all my bank statements and she will see if my cards can stay open and at what limits. :-[ :'(
Ouch, that hurts...double whammy!

Definitely should not have admitted to AMEX that you were just trying to get cash.
Also if you are using amazon to get miles be sure to change the amounts so its not always the same round number.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MarkS on November 03, 2010, 07:27:53 PM
Ouch, that hurts...double whammy!

Definitely should not have admitted to AMEX that you were just trying to get cash.
Also if you are using amazon to get miles be sure to change the amounts so its not always the same round number.

Ya it sucks. They cornered me because they wanted me to prove who I was paying the money to with receipts, bills. But yah I should have staggered the amounts.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yada on November 03, 2010, 11:58:52 PM
Sorry to hear this happened to you.  TY for letting us know so that we can avoid the same thing.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2010, 11:38:08 AM
So the million dollar question is if you had bought AMEX GC's, transferred then to Ploni Almoni and then done amazon payments if AMEX would be doing this now?

My guess is no.  And you'd be able to claim the GC's were legit gifts even if they did FR you, as opposed to Amazon payments charges.
Title: Amazon Payments
Post by: Bigyid on July 26, 2011, 12:03:49 AM
I need to spend a total of about $3k using 4 different Amex cards. How does Amazon payments work? Can I send money to a friend and have him give me the money for it?

If not, How else can I use the $3k to meet the spending requirements?
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: Dan on July 26, 2011, 12:18:50 AM
I need to spend a total of about $3k using 4 different Amex cards. How does Amazon payments work? Can I send money to a friend and have him give me the money for it?
Sure.
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: Yellow on July 26, 2011, 12:24:08 AM
Yep but there is a 1000 dollar limit per month so it will take time
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: aryeh1 on July 26, 2011, 12:27:27 AM
can two accounts be open ?
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: Bigyid on July 26, 2011, 12:28:30 AM
So perhaps I can spread it out through 4 different amazon accounts?

Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: ganizzy on July 26, 2011, 02:02:27 AM
is the $1000 limit on any type of payment even from amazon account or bank account? or only from cc
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: kayef on July 26, 2011, 07:28:03 AM
is the $1000 limit on any type of payment even from amazon account or bank account? or only from cc
only from cc
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: scwam on July 26, 2011, 08:58:55 AM
I just did this and sent $500 to one of my other emails. The charge immediately showed up on my CC even thought I never accepted it form the other email. I had originally planned to open the other account in my name using middle name instead of first name while at the airport in a different city (different IP). But I have a feeling they will still cross-reference it after the transfer and shut me down. Has anyone tried sending payments to themselves with name variations?
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: i3ond on July 26, 2011, 09:32:48 AM
Ques
I just did this and sent $500 to one of my other emails. The charge immediately showed up on my CC even thought I never accepted it form the other email. I had originally planned to open the other account in my name using middle name instead of first name while at the airport in a different city (different IP). But I have a feeling they will still cross-reference it after the transfer and shut me down. Has anyone tried sending payments to themselves with name variations?

How do you plan on adding your credit card when your name is wrong ?  Just what ever you do, DO NOT send money in a circle between two accounts.  The transactions will be flagged for approval.
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: Bigyid on July 26, 2011, 09:48:53 AM
Ques
How do you plan on adding your credit card when your name is wrong ?  Just what ever you do, DO NOT send money in a circle between two accounts.  The transactions will be flagged for approval.

Do you mean that if 'A' sends money to 'B', 'B' shouldnt send money to 'A'?
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: compddd on July 26, 2011, 10:07:10 AM
Amazon will flag you and catch you. It is against their TOS.
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: i3ond on July 26, 2011, 11:05:29 AM
Do you mean that if 'A' sends money to 'B', 'B' shouldnt send money to 'A'?
yes
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: Bigyid on July 26, 2011, 11:12:56 AM
thanks guys  ;)
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: 3ZeroT on July 26, 2011, 02:23:24 PM
Ques
How do you plan on adding your credit card when your name is wrong ?  Just what ever you do, DO NOT send money in a circle between two accounts.  The transactions will be flagged for approval.

Good info.  I personally have been doing this A to B, B to A circular approach for quite some time.  No accounts have been closed but occasionally transactions get the 'pending' message and don't get approved for 12-24 hrs.  Is that what you are referring to?  Perhaps I will change this to an A to B, B to C, ... eventually back to A.
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: bem684 on July 26, 2011, 03:36:55 PM
Has anyone been making recurring payments for a few months on this?  I was thinking about paying 500 or 1k a month to my brother for 2 or 3 months (on my account and also on my wife's account) and having him pay me cash back.  Will I have to explain myself?  Is it enough to say I was loaning him the money or is that somehow not being compliant with the program?
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: bem684 on July 26, 2011, 03:38:01 PM
Also we have the same last name but I'm in NY and he's in NJ so clearly not the same address.  Will sending money to an account with the same last name cause me a problem?
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: compddd on July 26, 2011, 03:40:14 PM
I live with my girlfriend and I have been sending her $1000 from my CCs every month through Amazon Payments since April, no problems so far.
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: i3ond on July 26, 2011, 03:55:35 PM
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I am personally pushing the limits on amazon payments. I think I have 6 accounts under my name that I recycle my money through. Note* Each has a different card and different bank.  Dont link a card to more than 1 account.  One account has had a transaction back and forth which caused a flag. But because of my amazon activity and seller account it was allowed through. Pretty Lucky.   
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: 3ZeroT on July 26, 2011, 04:08:19 PM
I am personally pushing the limits on amazon payments. I think I have 6 accounts under my name that I recycle my money through. Note* Each has a different card and different bank.  Dont link a card to more than 1 account...

6 here for my spouse and I each too.  I tried opening a 7th account on two different occasions and it was immediately closed when I sent a payment.   But they left the other 6 (pairs) alone.  So I found that interesting.  I have a couple accounts with the same bank account information but it doesn't seem to have caused a problem.
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: scwam on July 26, 2011, 06:02:48 PM
Ques
How do you plan on adding your credit card when your name is wrong ?  Just what ever you do, DO NOT send money in a circle between two accounts.  The transactions will be flagged for approval.

So if I send money from an account that is an authorized user name on my credit card to an amazon account with my name, that won't work?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on August 03, 2011, 01:31:36 PM
I sned money to my 'brother' and deposited the money in his bank account - which is controlled by me - within five minutes, is it risky? Should I leave it for longer? Also, is sharing a home address an issue or not?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: schneury on August 04, 2011, 05:50:16 PM
The $1000/month limit is just for sending or also for receiving?
can I send 1k and also receive 1k?
Thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on August 04, 2011, 10:01:29 PM
The $1000/month limit is just for sending or also for receiving?
can I send 1k and also receive 1k?
Thanks
1k for each. You can do them both.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Swizard210 on August 09, 2011, 03:59:07 AM
I have a friend who made a new account for Amazon Payments, and he has activated/verified his email address, linked a bank account, and added a credit card, yet, his Total Monthly Limits still show $500 where as my account where I have done the same things shows "Unlimited".  Has Amazon made a change?  Or does it just take time to process or is it after a month it will get updated?  He has had the account since sometime last month.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on August 09, 2011, 01:04:46 PM
I have a friend who made a new account for Amazon Payments, and he has activated/verified his email address, linked a bank account, and added a credit card, yet, his Total Monthly Limits still show $500 where as my account where I have done the same things shows "Unlimited".  Has Amazon made a change?  Or does it just take time to process or is it after a month it will get updated?  He has had the account since sometime last month.

+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: irleetnoob on August 14, 2011, 01:06:33 AM
Curious, do we know if the $1000 limit goes by calendar months or 30 days after the $1000 limit is reached?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on August 14, 2011, 01:14:29 AM
Curious, do we know if the $1000 limit goes by calendar months or 30 days after the $1000 limit is reached?
Calendar month
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yellow on August 14, 2011, 01:16:03 AM
Can people send money using visa gift cards?
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Swizard210 on August 14, 2011, 09:16:58 AM
Can people send money using visa gift cards?
+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ye on August 14, 2011, 09:52:21 AM
Can people send money using visa gift cards?
Yes
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Standing Liberty on August 14, 2011, 02:46:12 PM
I have been sending money in a circle back and forth between two accounts, both of which are in my name, and so far have not had any problems.  Is it just a matter of time before amazon will shut down the accounts, or does this mean that I can continue getting away with it?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: smurf on August 14, 2011, 03:05:58 PM
I have been sending money in a circle back and forth between two accounts, both of which are in my name, and so far have not had any problems.  Is it just a matter of time before amazon will shut down the accounts, or does this mean that I can continue getting away with it?
It's definitely best to be more careful.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: golan on August 14, 2011, 05:02:14 PM
How do i enable the transfer limit to 1k instead of 500?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on August 14, 2011, 05:16:54 PM
How do i enable the transfer limit to 1k instead of 500?

I think you have to verify your account, or the other guys account to raise the limit.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on August 14, 2011, 08:24:47 PM
What does this mean and what's the way around it?

"We're sorry. You have exceeded your monthly send limit for transactions funded by credit cards."
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on August 15, 2011, 12:35:00 AM
What does this mean and what's the way around it?

"We're sorry. You have exceeded your monthly send limit for transactions funded by credit cards."

Do you really not understand what that means...?

And, short of opening a second account, I'm not sure there is a "way around it."
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on August 15, 2011, 10:13:24 AM
Do you really not understand what that means...?

And, short of opening a second account, I'm not sure there is a "way around it."

Iv'e never heard of a sending limit (as oppose to a receiving limit), I am trying to figure out what did I exceed; I.E. too many transactions, to much total money sent, sent to too many people Etc. Based on knowing exactly what it means I would be able to hopefully meet my threshold.

Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on August 15, 2011, 11:36:01 AM
Iv'e never heard of a sending limit
And now you have.  Same as the receiving limit AFAIK.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: twentie4hrs on August 15, 2011, 11:38:46 AM
I hope noone calls them and asks if its a mistake this time  :P
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on August 15, 2011, 11:54:26 AM
I hope noone calls them and asks if its a mistake this time  :P

Amazon does not change rules based on one representative. 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on August 15, 2011, 11:55:13 AM
And now you have.

Thank you for telling me what I now know.

      Same as the receiving limit AFAIK.

Which is?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gozalim on August 15, 2011, 12:50:51 PM
You cannot send more than $1000/month from a credit card from an amazon payments account. (per account?)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on August 15, 2011, 12:53:19 PM
You cannot send more than $1000/month from a credit card from an amazon payments account. (per account?)

Is that for one individual credit card, or credit cards in general?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gozalim on August 15, 2011, 12:56:53 PM
Is that for one individual credit card, or credit cards in general?
I believe general. Per amazon account regardless of which card
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on August 15, 2011, 01:06:37 PM
I believe general. Per amazon account regardless of which card

It's definitely not per account, I did way over 1000
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gozalim on August 15, 2011, 01:33:26 PM
It's definitely not per account, I did way over 1000
in 1 month? from a credit card?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: irleetnoob on August 15, 2011, 01:34:35 PM
It's definitely not per account, I did way over 1000

lol? That's why you got the notice: "We're sorry. You have exceeded your monthly send limit for transactions funded by credit cards." Is that really so difficult to understand?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: twentie4hrs on August 15, 2011, 02:32:36 PM
Amazon does not change rules based on one representative.
It was a joke..hence the  ":P"
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on August 16, 2011, 11:45:02 AM
lol? That's why you got the notice: "We're sorry. You have exceeded your monthly send limit for transactions funded by credit cards." Is that really so difficult to understand?

No, I got the notice after sending 1501.00
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on August 16, 2011, 11:56:53 AM
Can people send money using visa gift cards?
Yes
Please explain how you do it, i tried and it was declined. thank you.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on August 16, 2011, 02:44:39 PM
No, I got the notice after sending 1501.00

So from one account you sent $1501.

In what increments? From how many different cards? On what dates?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: irleetnoob on August 16, 2011, 03:08:33 PM
No, I got the notice after sending 1501.00

There was probably a delay from when you reached $1000 and the notice. Also, have you confirmed that all $1501 in charges went through and was received?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on August 16, 2011, 05:37:24 PM
So from one account you sent $1501.

In what increments? From how many different cards? On what dates?
Aug 2, 2011    Payment To    moishe ------    Details    Completed         -$500.00    $0.00    -$500.00
Aug 1, 2011    Payment To    Yosef --------    Details    Completed         -$500.00    $0.00    -$500.00
Jul 31, 2011    Payment To    Yosef --------    Details    Completed         -$500.00    $0.00    -$500.00
Jul 31, 2011    Payment To    m------@gmail.com    Details    Completed         -$1.00    $0.00    -$1.00
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: smurf on August 16, 2011, 05:53:40 PM
Aug 2, 2011    Payment To    moishe ------    Details    Completed         -$500.00    $0.00    -$500.00
Aug 1, 2011    Payment To    Yosef --------    Details    Completed         -$500.00    $0.00    -$500.00
Jul 31, 2011    Payment To    Yosef --------    Details    Completed         -$500.00    $0.00    -$500.00
Jul 31, 2011    Payment To    m------@gmail.com    Details    Completed         -$1.00    $0.00    -$1.00
you actually never exceeded the 1k limit because its based on the calendar month (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg113920#msg113920) $501 in July and 1k in August
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on August 16, 2011, 05:57:56 PM
you actually never exceeded the 1k limit because its based on the calendar month (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg113920#msg113920) $501 in July and 1k in August

I though of that right after I hit "Post"... Well well

Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on August 16, 2011, 10:53:28 PM
Can people send money using visa gift cards?  Please explain how you do it, i tried and it was declined. thank you.
Did you try to send 500 with a 500 GC? Remember there is a 1.00 temp authorization so you will only be able to send 499 or wait until the 1.00 falls off.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on August 17, 2011, 03:11:31 AM
you actually never exceeded the 1k limit because its based on the calendar month (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg113920#msg113920) $501 in July and 1k in August

+1

hence why i asked for the dates...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on August 17, 2011, 02:12:49 PM
Did you try to send 500 with a 500 GC? Remember there is a 1.00 temp authorization so you will only be able to send 499 or wait until the 1.00 falls off.
thanx for the help, i'm gonna try again leaving over a dollar, thanx.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on August 17, 2011, 05:19:25 PM
HelpMe, you HelpedMe :) it worked, thanx.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: twentie4hrs on August 21, 2011, 09:59:07 AM
Thanks ..It helped!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: CholentTheTraveler on August 21, 2011, 12:43:13 PM
I am wondering if I send my wife $250 in September just to rake up a few small points a s a boost for the CC(to reach the next cash-out mark with Amex) does it go to her bank so she can pay a cc off? The reason for doing so small an amount is to avoid getting banned from the program etc.

Any tips for a newbie?  :-\
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on August 21, 2011, 01:16:08 PM
I am wondering if I send my wife $250 in September just to rake up a few small points a s a boost for the CC(to reach the next cash-out mark with Amex) does it go to her bank so she can pay a cc off? The reason for doing so small an amount is to avoid getting banned from the program etc.

Any tips for a newbie?  :-\

When you set up a bank account, you can withdraw to it without a problem.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: CholentTheTraveler on August 21, 2011, 01:22:31 PM
So I an use my credit card(chase) to send say $250 to my wife and she can withdraw the money into a different bank account(wells fargo, BOA etc) without any issues of same IP etc?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on August 21, 2011, 01:49:02 PM
So I an use my credit card(chase) to send say $250 to my wife and she can withdraw the money into a different bank account(wells fargo, BOA etc) without any issues of same IP etc?

Don't do it with same IP.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: joesol on August 25, 2011, 12:33:18 PM
Has anyone had trouble faxing the bank statement that they require? Both fax numbers they gave me are coming back undeliverable.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: joeb1 on August 25, 2011, 01:53:38 PM
what do u mean the bank statement they require?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: joesol on August 25, 2011, 02:01:03 PM
When you add a commercial account (business account) they require that you a fax a bank statement with the same address and account # to verify. They listed two fax numbers and I have been trying for 2 days. It keeps getting rejected.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on August 26, 2011, 02:09:26 AM
Any advantages of the commercial account over the personal, or is it just another venue to spend...?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Armadillo on August 27, 2011, 08:11:22 PM
http://lifehacker.com/5835072/use-amazon-webpay-to-meet-rewards-card-minimum-spending-requirements
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on August 28, 2011, 03:12:22 PM
Has anyone successfully done its ending back and forth btwn two accounts (using diff ips), I would like to try it but can't risk suspension. I have done it one way for a while, no problems there.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on August 28, 2011, 03:13:33 PM
To clarify it would be one account on my name and the other on my wife's.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on August 28, 2011, 07:37:07 PM
To clarify it would be one account on my name and the other on my wife's.

Yep, have done it here awhile (months) even with same IPs.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: joeb1 on August 28, 2011, 10:31:43 PM
+1
Title: Re: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on August 28, 2011, 11:18:20 PM
Yep, have done it here awhile (months) even with same IPs.
Same home address?
Title: Re: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on August 29, 2011, 08:26:53 AM
Same home address?

Yes
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on August 29, 2011, 10:17:38 AM
I though Amazon is known to track things like this. Sounds like an accident waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on August 29, 2011, 10:42:57 AM
Same home address?
Yes
The fact that it works is luck, the fact that you tried it is... not smart - to say the least.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on August 30, 2011, 11:15:36 AM
The fact that it works is luck, the fact that you tried it is... not smart - to say the least.

Accepting what you are told on the internet isn't always smart either.  I've been doing this for a long time and have many accounts, and I've learned a bit about what they check and what they don't check.  So now I have a simple process and don't waste alot of unnecessary time dancing around things they don't apparently check.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gozalim on August 30, 2011, 03:50:43 PM
Accepting what you are told on the internet isn't always smart either.  I've been doing this for a long time and have many accounts, and I've learned a bit about what they check and what they don't check.  So now I have a simple process and don't waste alot of unnecessary time dancing around things they don't apparently check.
care to share your list?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: jack12 on August 31, 2011, 08:40:01 AM
If I spend $1000 today, I'll be able to spend $1000 tomorrow too because its a new month?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on August 31, 2011, 08:54:14 AM
If I spend $1000 today, I'll be able to spend $1000 tomorrow too because its a new month?

Look at post #83 in this thread.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: good sam on August 31, 2011, 11:50:21 AM
Out of curiosity - how long did it take you to find the post and type that?  Why not just "yes"?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on August 31, 2011, 01:12:37 PM
Out of curiosity - how long did it take you to find the post and type that?  Why not just "yes"?

Its been said over over on the forums " please do a search before asking a question" . In this case a simple search would've turned up the answer right away.
If u can't understand why you should do a search before posting a question,  you should consult wirmth Ashero, I'm sure he'll be kind enough to explain it to you.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on August 31, 2011, 01:58:20 PM
Its been said over over on the forums " please do a search before asking a question" . In this case a simple search would've turned up the answer right away.
If u can't understand why you should do a search before posting a question,  you should consult wirmth Ashero, I'm sure he'll be kind enough to explain it to you.
AsherO is boycotting because the n00bs don't search :P
But yes, a search for month within this thread would have answered the question.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on August 31, 2011, 11:47:13 PM
care to share your list?

+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: nbraun on September 04, 2011, 08:49:22 AM
Hi! Following this thread with great interest. Just got two new AMEX cards (SPG, one personal, one Biz) and trying to meet spending requirements. I am wondering if I use two cards from two seperate accounts with Amazon, keeping everything kosher (i.e. sending the payments to other people, not myself) should I worry that either amazon or amex will cross reference my different accounts and flag me? I'm more worried about Amex than Amazon, because amazon will have to do some detective work to see that my two accounts are really the same person, whereas Amex has them linked to my name automatically. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Spiffster on September 04, 2011, 09:01:23 PM
Hi! Following this thread with great interest. Just got two new AMEX cards (SPG, one personal, one Biz) and trying to meet spending requirements. I am wondering if I use two cards from two seperate accounts with Amazon, keeping everything kosher (i.e. sending the payments to other people, not myself) should I worry that either amazon or amex will cross reference my different accounts and flag me? I'm more worried about Amex than Amazon, because amazon will have to do some detective work to see that my two accounts are really the same person, whereas Amex has them linked to my name automatically. Any thoughts?

amex won't cross-reference you and rat you out, but spending only AP will flag you for the hairy eyeball of the inquisition.  Amex linked them together via your SSN.

Amazon will eventually ask you for the last 4 of your SSN and your driver's license #.  I made a typo when typing them in and can't figure out how to change it and they haven't noticed yet (years now)...  :-O



Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: DovidR on September 06, 2011, 09:30:32 PM
Seems like Amex can give people a hard time for using amazon payments. I tried it only once, too nervous to try again.
What about citi or chase?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on September 06, 2011, 09:35:41 PM
Seems like Amex can give people a hard time for using amazon payments. I tried it only once, too nervous to try again.
What about citi or chase?

Citi is supposed to be fine.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: DovidR on September 06, 2011, 09:51:05 PM
Citi is supposed to be fine.

Great.  Thanks!
Just sent a payment to my son using Citi AA.
Now, if someone can confirm that Chase is safe, I'll set up my son as an authorized user on my CO card, have him use it for amazon payments on his end, and shuttle the $$ back and forth.

Or... is there a flaw somewhere that I'm missing? 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on September 06, 2011, 09:57:30 PM
I'll set up my son as an authorized user on my CO card, have him use it for amazon payments on his end, and shuttle the $$ back and forth.

Or... is there a flaw somewhere that I'm missing? 

Some people do it and report no problems form Amazon, but if could easily be a red flag with you both sending $$ back and forth. I think if you add a third person and make a loop, you'll be safer.

Also,

Make sure that none of you guys use access your accounts from the same IP as someone else in the same loop.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: compddd on September 06, 2011, 10:00:45 PM
Me and my girlfriend have used Amazon Payments with Chase and it went fine.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yeki89 on September 06, 2011, 10:21:29 PM
Yes that would be awesome... the mint is really annoying (waiting for the coins, having to be home when they get delivered, dealing with depositing them etc)
What do you mean by "main" amazon account
simple, open an account... do it... wen u get busted they close you, no big u never  use the account anyway
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: DovidR on September 06, 2011, 10:51:50 PM
Me and my girlfriend have used Amazon Payments with Chase and it went fine.
Monthly?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: compddd on September 06, 2011, 11:14:55 PM
for 3-4 months yeah
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on September 06, 2011, 11:28:32 PM
simple, open an account... do it... wen u get busted they close you, no big u never  use the account anyway
+1
had 6 amazon accts., 2 real (used for purchasing, 1 me, 1 my wife) 4 for spending thresholds. on those 4 i was asked to verify last 4 of my ss, put in various ppls ss, said they couldn't verify after 2 months of this they froze accts (not bad for $12000 in spending) was able to withdraw the money no prob. and moved onto 4 more amazon accts.
P.S. I dont use my real ones yet
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gozalim on September 06, 2011, 11:49:02 PM
+1
had 6 amazon accts., 2 real (used for purchasing, 1 me, 1 my wife) 4 for spending thresholds. on those 4 i was asked to verify last 4 of my ss, put in various ppls ss, said they couldn't verify after 2 months of this they froze accts (not bad for $12000 in spending) was able to withdraw the money no prob. and moved onto 4 more amazon accts.
P.S. I dont use my real ones yet
real and 'fake' both same address?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on September 07, 2011, 07:59:51 AM
3 real addresses (parents, current, previous)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on September 08, 2011, 11:23:56 PM
3 real addresses (parents, current, previous)

Same IP address' with all accounts?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on September 09, 2011, 12:11:20 AM
yea. who made up up that they check ip addresses. for all they know it could be a public computer
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: skyguy918 on September 09, 2011, 11:22:31 AM
Is there any benefit to having the person you send the money to you return it through a different service (eg they'd withdraw the money to their Chase account and send it back via Quickpay)?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on September 09, 2011, 01:41:58 PM
yea. who made up up that they check ip addresses. for all they know it could be a public computer
+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on September 09, 2011, 02:03:10 PM
+1

They can recognize public computers from the simple fact that usually there will be dozens of accounts logging in from one ip, plus there are other ways of knowing.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: smurf on September 09, 2011, 02:32:53 PM
They can recognize public computers from the simple fact that usually there will be dozens of accounts logging in from one ip, plus there are other ways of knowing.
Plus using public computers might also cause a flag(not that i know of; just saying)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on September 09, 2011, 02:38:20 PM
They can recognize public computers from the simple fact that usually there will be dozens of accounts logging in from one ip, plus there are other ways of knowing.
Yes it's of course it's possible for anyone to do just hire a pi or techy. Just who said amazon watches for these things
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Jimbob on September 09, 2011, 02:47:23 PM
In the event that ones get banned,
would they ban you from ONLY amazon
payments or from buying on amazon.com as well?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on September 09, 2011, 03:56:02 PM
It would make sense for them to monitor IPs, and that is why this kind of information just spreads around as fact, but I've yet to see evidence that they do.

For one thing, I personally have only seen payment reviews occur (and a potential for account closure) when you attempt to send payment.  At that point they don't even know what IP will end up logging in to receive it, and it appears they really don't care once it goes through.  Of course they could still check if multiple accounts are sending from the same IP, but I've not had a problem doing that either.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on September 09, 2011, 04:37:38 PM
a lot of things make sense and are not done some are time consuming and others just arent done for no reason so if there's no evidence to the fact why assume so
PS. it also doesn't make sense that banks match sign up bonuses bec. im willing to bet that the only ones who ask for bonuses are those abusing the system (yours truly and the like)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on September 10, 2011, 04:20:06 PM
Would using a proxy server help here to block your ip address?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on September 11, 2011, 12:27:02 AM
I send a payment form jack cohen to dave cohen, using dave's credit card. And it worked!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on September 11, 2011, 12:32:25 AM
Would using a proxy server help here to block your ip address?
many proxy servers are not secure
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Spiffster on September 13, 2011, 04:50:27 AM
yea. who made up up that they check ip addresses. for all they know it could be a public computer

Of course, they track IP - everyone does.  Differentiating between a public computer and a private one with multiple logins is trivial.

They probably don't use it as a primary fraud trigger but it would be pretty dense not to use it on "suspicious" activity.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Spiffster on September 13, 2011, 04:51:08 AM
Would using a proxy server help here to block your ip address?

Yes, if it's secure.  A trusted VPN would be ideal...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on September 13, 2011, 06:11:14 AM
I figured it out! I have 2 routers, every time i want to switch accounts i just unplug one and plug in the other and it generates a new ip address every time.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: DovidR on September 13, 2011, 06:31:41 AM
I figured it out! I have 2 routers, every time i want to switch accounts i just unplug one and plug in the other and it generates a new ip address every time.
Doesn't that happen anyway every time you unplug your router? Why do you need two routers?
Still, probably the best bet would be to use one at home and one at the library/school/work/airport
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on September 13, 2011, 07:18:30 AM
"Doesn't that happen anyway every time you unplug your router? Why do you need two routers?
Still, probably the best bet would be to use one at home and one at the library/school/work/airport"

If your plugging back in the same router many times you will still have the same address, it can sometimes need to be unplugged for several hours before a new one generates. This way it takes only 10 sec.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on September 13, 2011, 08:37:35 AM
Yes, if it's secure.  A trusted VPN would be ideal...

Any recommendations on using a proxy? I'm new to this.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on September 13, 2011, 10:49:05 AM
"Doesn't that happen anyway every time you unplug your router? Why do you need two routers?
Still, probably the best bet would be to use one at home and one at the library/school/work/airport"

If your plugging back in the same router many times you will still have the same address, it can sometimes need to be unplugged for several hours before a new one generates. This way it takes only 10 sec.

Depending on the type of internet you have (DSL / Cable / Fios) you can simply "release" your IP and then "renew" it and it should get your a new IP address. Two routers aren't necessary.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: scwam on September 13, 2011, 01:54:02 PM
6 weeks ago I sent a $500 from an account to an email. I let it sit the 30 days without registering. On the 30th day they credited back the account. 1 week after that I sent another $500 from the same account to a different email since the won't allow it to be sent again to the orginal email now. Waiting to see if they will allow a third attempt after crediting the money back. I don't have another person to trust so I'm not really sure if it is even possible for me to do this and set up a different amazon account where I can definately get my money deposited back into my bank. I could try to transpose my middle name to my first on put that data into the amazon account but not sure what would happen when it's withdrawel time.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on September 13, 2011, 02:22:36 PM
I don't have another person to trust so I'm not really sure if it is even possible

...seriously?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: irleetnoob on September 13, 2011, 03:12:20 PM
I don't have another person to trust so I'm not really sure if it is even possible for me to do this...

So sad  :'(
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Spiffster on September 13, 2011, 05:52:58 PM
Doesn't that happen anyway every time you unplug your router? Why do you need two routers?
Still, probably the best bet would be to use one at home and one at the library/school/work/airport

the different router would work better because it has a different MAC address.  But you could just change it manually yourself and do a release/renew.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Spiffster on September 13, 2011, 05:54:51 PM
Depending on the type of internet you have (DSL / Cable / Fios) you can simply "release" your IP and then "renew" it and it should get your a new IP address. Two routers aren't necessary.

A simple release/renew won't necessarily work because the lease is cached by the ISP for a while (differs amongst ISPs) and when you come back with the same MAC within that timeframe, you'll get the same IP.

Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Spiffster on September 13, 2011, 05:57:10 PM
Any recommendations on using a proxy? I'm new to this.

read the wikipedia article on anonymizer for a start.

Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Spiffster on September 13, 2011, 05:59:08 PM
6 weeks ago I sent a $500 from an account to an email. I let it sit the 30 days without registering. On the 30th day they credited back the account. 1 week after that I sent another $500 from the same account to a different email since the won't allow it to be sent again to the orginal email now. Waiting to see if they will allow a third attempt after crediting the money back. I don't have another person to trust so I'm not really sure if it is even possible for me to do this and set up a different amazon account where I can definately get my money deposited back into my bank. I could try to transpose my middle name to my first on put that data into the amazon account but not sure what would happen when it's withdrawel time.

so, the recipient never collected the $?  I've re-sent money that was auto-refunded back.

you'll have a hard time registering multiple accounts yourself since they ask for personally identifiable information: last 4 of ssn, driver's license #, address, etc...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on September 13, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
read the wikipedia article on anonymizer for a start.



Thanks. I'm familiar with the concept, but via what means can I use it? Do I need software, certain websites?
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Swizard210 on September 13, 2011, 10:02:35 PM
Thanks. I'm familiar with the concept, but via what means can I use it? Do I need software, certain websites?
You can use websites but they aren't as effective IMO as software. Check out Hot Spot Shield. It's free and pretty effective.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on September 13, 2011, 11:18:19 PM
A simple release/renew won't necessarily work because the lease is cached by the ISP for a while (differs amongst ISPs) and when you come back with the same MAC within that timeframe, you'll get the same IP.

Which is why I said "Depending on the type of internet you have (DSL / Cable / Fios)...".
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 14, 2011, 12:39:30 AM
If you are worried about IPís just use a free dialup or tether your smart phone. Be careful with changing your MAC to generate new IPís. Some ISPís (Comcast) will send you a nasty email after you do this a few times. If you keep on doing it they will then close your account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on September 14, 2011, 12:48:49 AM
If you are worried about IPís just use a free dialup or tether your smart phone.
+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on September 14, 2011, 05:47:49 AM
Free dialups are notoriously s  l  o  o  o  w they often don't even have full dialup speed.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 14, 2011, 07:20:39 AM
Free dialups are notoriously s  l  o  o  o  w they often don't even have full dialup speed.
That is why they are free. IMHO they will serve the purpose unless you have 10 or more AP accounts. Virgin Mobile has a nice 25/mo plan (I think now it is 35) that works great for these sorts of things.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on September 14, 2011, 08:34:18 AM
Just wondering....
Those who have multiple AP accounts, do you have different checking account linked to each one?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 14, 2011, 09:36:19 AM
Just wondering....
Those who have multiple AP accounts, do you have different checking account linked to each one?
I will take a wild guess and say yes or at least that would be the logical thing to do. A lot of CUís let you have supplemental accounts that would work great for this purpose. Alliant CU is just one of them.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on September 14, 2011, 12:50:10 PM
Free dialups are notoriously s  l  o  o  o  w they often don't even have full dialup speed.
My centro as a modem is wayyyy faster than dialup.
Title: Re: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on September 14, 2011, 12:54:28 PM
My centro as a modem is wayyyy faster than dialup.
+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ganizzy on September 14, 2011, 02:59:20 PM
6 weeks ago I sent a $500 from an account to an email. I let it sit the 30 days without registering. On the 30th day they credited back the account.

did the money get credited to ur cc or just to ur amazon account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on September 22, 2011, 11:01:32 PM
Anyone do 2 accts with the same bank account (but different CCs and Names)?
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Swizard210 on September 23, 2011, 04:11:05 AM
Anyone do 2 accts with the same bank account (but different CCs and Names)?
I have and it works just fine.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on September 23, 2011, 05:36:09 AM
Anyone do 2 accts with the same bank account (but different CCs and Names)?
I have and it works just fine.

Great I was wondering if it would work but was hesitant to try it myself (didn't want to get banned). ;D
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 23, 2011, 07:39:53 AM
Great I was wondering if it would work but was hesitant to try it myself (didn't want to get banned). ;D
Just because something works for someone do not assume it will work for everyone. I had 10 eBay accounts for almost a year. When the hammer dropped it was not pretty. All eBay accounts, associated PayPay accounts and all family member accounts are now permanently banned!

Moral of the story is that it is not a good idea to use the same bank account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on September 23, 2011, 08:49:24 AM
Just because something works for someone do not assume it will work for everyone. I had 10 eBay accounts for almost a year. When the hammer dropped it was not pretty. All eBay accounts, associated PayPay accounts and all family member accounts are now permanently banned!

Moral of the story is that it is not a good idea to use the same bank account.

They shut you down for no reason? Were you using the accts to bid against each other?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 23, 2011, 09:34:39 AM
They shut you down for no reason? Were you using the accts to bid against each other?
You are only allowed two accounts. I was maxing out 500 for ebucks on each account. Everything was a legitimate purchase, no selling with these accounts. I also lost 5k in ebucks when the hammer dropped.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on September 23, 2011, 12:21:59 PM
Not to cause a stir, but I've read on FT and other sites as well that using AMEX to fund the AP is almost a sure-fire way to get an FR.

(Now, of course, basically anything can be a trigger for FR, but it seemed the AP method is slightly more "of a trigger".)

In fact, I had a mini-one last week, and I had to explain away the AP. Moral: I'd use a non-AMEX for AP.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ye on September 23, 2011, 12:43:09 PM
In fact, I had a mini-one last week
Care to explain what a mini FR is? Did it say "charging suspended" online?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: scwam on September 23, 2011, 01:10:39 PM
did the money get credited to ur cc or just to ur amazon account?

Back to the card. The email came exactly at 30 days and credit 2 days later. However they have blocked that email from recieving anymore payments. I had sent another payment to a different email and that 30 days comes up this week.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on September 23, 2011, 02:52:57 PM
Care to explain what a mini FR is? Did it say "charging suspended" online?

I got a VM from AMEX saying I needed to talk to them about an urgent matter. (No, it was not a "fraudulent activity" call.) I ignored it and then tried calling MR on a different matter, and my call was automatically re-routed to the FR department where I was asked a few probing questions about account activity, income, etc.

I say "mini" because I was not asked for my tax returns, etc.
Title: Re: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on September 23, 2011, 05:12:33 PM
Not to cause a stir, but I've read on FT and other sites as well that using AMEX to fund the AP is almost a sure-fire way to get an FR.

(Now, of course, basically anything can be a trigger for FR, but it seemed the AP method is slightly more "of a trigger".)

In fact, I had a mini-one last week, and I had to explain away the AP. Moral: I'd use a non-AMEX for AP.
Its been mentioned countless times already on these threads. It should be in the wiki as well
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 23, 2011, 05:24:45 PM
Not to cause a stir, but I've read on FT and other sites as well that using AMEX to fund the AP is almost a sure-fire way to get an FR.
Add a step to your process. Purchase an Amex GC (earn extra cash back) and use it for AP.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on September 23, 2011, 05:28:57 PM
Add a step to your process. Purchase an Amex GC (earn extra cash back) and use it for AP.

Check the "AMEX gc thread" , buying gc's is also asking for an fr.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 23, 2011, 06:02:00 PM
deleted - Don't want to cause waves.
Title: Re: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on September 24, 2011, 10:34:47 PM
Its been mentioned countless times already on these threads. It should be in the wiki as well

So, you're saying I shouldn't have mentioned it here? Or...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on September 24, 2011, 11:18:10 PM
Not to cause a stir, but I've read on FT and other sites as well that using AMEX to fund the AP is almost a sure-fire way to get an FR.
Its been mentioned countless times already on these threads. It should be in the wiki as well
So, you're saying I shouldn't have mentioned it here? Or...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on September 25, 2011, 12:23:42 AM
Not all people read through all 13 pages of a thread. Whether they should or not is a different question. I was merely repeating it for those people who may not have read every single post. Additionally, I stated in my post my own personal experience of having  to explain away the AP.

If I can help other people avoid an FR, why not?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: DovidR on September 25, 2011, 12:33:09 AM
Not all people read through all 13 pages of a thread. Whether they should or not is a different question. I was merely repeating it for those people who may not have read every single post. Additionally, I stated in my post my own personal experience of having  to explain away the AP.

If I can help other people avoid an FR, why not?
+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: miles on September 25, 2011, 08:27:52 AM
my limit is $500 how can i change it
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: miles on September 25, 2011, 08:28:41 AM
can i use the same credit card for two different accounts or its will flag the account
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on September 25, 2011, 09:07:58 AM
my limit is $500 how can i change it
verify your bank account
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on September 25, 2011, 09:12:29 AM
can i use the same credit card for two different accounts or its will flag the account
really?! ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 25, 2011, 10:01:26 AM
can i use the same credit card for two different accounts or its will flag the account
Even if it did work it would be a bad idea. I have not tried it but my guess is it will reject the CC on the second account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on September 25, 2011, 11:18:44 AM
can i use the same credit card for two different accounts or its will flag the account

I've done it, under different IP's. But it's not advisable.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 25, 2011, 11:44:13 AM
I've done it, under different IP's. But it's not advisable.
That is an excellent data point!!! That shows they are nowhere near eBay/PayPal on detecting duplicate accounts.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yellow on September 25, 2011, 12:25:55 PM
I've done it, under different IP's. But it's not advisable.
I have also been doing it. So far no problems...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on September 25, 2011, 03:27:52 PM
The last person who reported doing so had to make a new account for every transaction! However you are right that they are nowhere near the others: My brother sent me money from MY credit card!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on September 26, 2011, 03:53:46 PM
My brother sent me money from MY credit card!
I know someone who send himself money from his own credit card ;)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on September 26, 2011, 06:26:14 PM
I know someone who send himself money from his own credit card ;)

I thought that's what I said. I only said 'my brother' because it was an account I created in his name. Unless you mean Dave Cohen sent money to Dave Cohen using Dave Cohen's Credit card, which I doubt is possible.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on September 26, 2011, 06:57:25 PM
I know someone who send himself money from his own credit card ;)
I've done it
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on September 26, 2011, 08:49:58 PM
I thought that's what I said. I only said 'my brother' because it was an account I created in his name. Unless you mean Dave Cohen sent money to Dave Cohen using Dave Cohen's Credit card, which I doubt is possible.

That's pretty much it. Created accounts with different names, but used the same credit card to send back and fourth, but was very careful to keep  the IP's separated. I still wouldn't advise it though, especially if there is any hint of a connection to your real Amazon account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on September 26, 2011, 09:47:58 PM
Instead of using the same cc on two different accounts if the additional cards have different numbers I would assume that it would be much safer to use one of those. And for CITI Does anyone know if it works to use a VCC number? Then you can use a different number for every amazon account
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on September 26, 2011, 09:51:07 PM
Smart ideas!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on September 26, 2011, 10:02:58 PM
Instead of using the same cc on two different accounts if the additional cards have different numbers I would assume that it would be much safer to use one of those. And for CITI Does anyone know if it works to use a VCC number? Then you can use a different number for every amazon account

The spending threshold can be met by any of the AU?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on September 26, 2011, 10:04:32 PM
The spending threshold can be met by any of the AU?

Why not?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on September 26, 2011, 10:10:18 PM
just ignorant.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 02, 2011, 12:00:02 AM
It seems that using same cc for sending money back and forth between two people is a risk. How about the same cc but one the cardholder and second the au on a chase card this way there is a different cc number?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 04, 2011, 02:21:22 PM
Also if I send money to my wife and we both log into our accounts from same ip address but when I send the money I do it from my smartphone is that a potential issue?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on October 04, 2011, 04:04:54 PM
Quote
Also if I send money to my wife and we both log into our accounts from same ip address but when I send the money I do it from my smartphone is that a potential issue?
Why would it help? All you've done is link another ip to that account. But reports have it that they are not so strict about ip's though I would recommend to be careful.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 04, 2011, 07:32:01 PM
Why would it help? All you've done is link another ip to that account. But reports have it that they are not so strict about ip's though I would recommend to be careful.
Good to know wasn't sure how these things work. Also is same credit card account but different numbers due to au with chase a dumb idea? I have this double point promo with chase now!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on October 04, 2011, 07:59:33 PM
Good to know wasn't sure how these things work. Also is same credit card account but different numbers due to au with chase a dumb idea? I have this double point promo with chase now!

Double points with which card?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 04, 2011, 09:43:04 PM
Double points with which card?
My co chase card. For a two month period I get either double points on retail dining entertainment shopping etc or double on everything after 1k. I get these in the mail pretty much as soon as one promo ends and try to rack up points!
That's why I wanna amazon same card twice with mine and my wifes cause they have different numbers.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on October 04, 2011, 10:23:01 PM
Also is same credit card account but different numbers due to au with chase a dumb idea?

Sounds like a good one, but no guarantees..
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 05, 2011, 01:36:10 AM
how can I set up duplicate accounts so as not to get banned just in case from my primary account. Do I give them my license number? cannot imagine that would work. Issue is wife and I both have same ip linked to our regular accounts so tring to figure out how to structure this.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: DovidR on October 05, 2011, 05:42:07 AM
how can I set up duplicate accounts so as not to get banned just in case from my primary account. Do I give them my license number? cannot imagine that would work. Issue is wife and I both have same ip linked to our regular accounts so tring to figure out how to structure this.
+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on October 05, 2011, 10:12:39 AM
how can I set up duplicate accounts so as not to get banned just in case from my primary account. Do I give them my license number? cannot imagine that would work. Issue is wife and I both have same ip linked to our regular accounts so tring to figure out how to structure this.

Nobody is checking the license number you submit...

;)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on October 05, 2011, 11:29:27 AM
Nobody is checking the license number you submit...

;)
+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 05, 2011, 11:35:55 AM
Use and abuse AP will you can. Like all loopholes they do get shut down. It is not "if" but "when".
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on October 05, 2011, 11:55:14 AM
Use and abuse AP will you can. Like all loopholes they do get shut down. It is not nullifnull but nullwhennull.

Generally a true rule, but it seems they haven't been too strict compared to PayPal, GoogleCheckout, Paydivvy and other services.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 05, 2011, 01:13:14 PM
Generally a true rule, but it seems they haven't been too strict compared to PayPal, GoogleCheckout, Paydivvy and other services.
True but that is what worries me.  ;)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on October 05, 2011, 01:22:01 PM
Nobody is checking the license number you submit...

;)
if i remember correctly i have tried giving a wrong license number and they would not verify the account (but i'm not sure  that my memory is 100% correct on this one)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 05, 2011, 01:48:52 PM
I know I'm just being lazy, but what other ways (besides a DL #) can you make more than one AP account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on October 05, 2011, 02:23:19 PM
if i remember correctly i have tried giving a wrong license number and they would not verify the account (but i'm not sure  that my memory is 100% correct on this one)

I don't think they verify with each state's DMV, they probably have some algorithm that checks to see that it matches the state's numbering system for that state (something like this (http://hr.umich.edu/hrris/forms/pdfs/US%20Driver%27s%20Licenses.pdf)).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on October 05, 2011, 02:34:04 PM
Reports on other sites of peoples multiple accounts getting shut down. Looks like they are starting to crack down atleast a little
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 05, 2011, 02:46:20 PM
What's the count here?

How many accounts has one DDF member opened successfully?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 05, 2011, 02:54:25 PM
How many accounts has one DDF member opened successfully?
Opened and stayed opened or opened transfered 1k then closed?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 05, 2011, 03:07:29 PM
Opened and stayed opened or opened transfered 1k then closed?

I guess I wanted to know currently open and are being used monthly. Curious how much money is being laundered here :P
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on October 05, 2011, 05:59:38 PM
if i remember correctly i have tried giving a wrong license number and they would not verify the account (but i'm not sure  that my memory is 100% correct on this one)
I don't think they verify with each state's DMV, they probably have some algorithm that checks to see that it matches the state's numbering system for that state (something like this (http://hr.umich.edu/hrris/forms/pdfs/US%20Driver%27s%20Licenses.pdf)).
sounds fair enough.
 btw pretty cool list, where do you find such things?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: TC610 on October 06, 2011, 03:41:01 PM
I guess I wanted to know currently open and are being used monthly. Curious how much money is being laundered here :P

Good question.  What are the top scores?  I've transferred almost $1000 each month for the last 3 months between two accounts.  I joined the AP game late, but I plan on milking AP for what I can until I at least reach the SPG thresholds, and anything after that is a bonus to me.

$3000 probably isn't nearly as much as other people have passed through AP, so now I'm curious too.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on October 06, 2011, 07:46:42 PM
just had an account suspended... :(
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on October 06, 2011, 07:51:06 PM
just had an account suspended... :(

Whats your transfer history for that account?

Any other accounts with safe info or IP address?

Did they send any sort of email? What are they saying?

Slightly OT: I got an email from them asking for my SSN, does anyone know if they plan on reporting anything to the IRS (like PayPal just started doing)? Anyone else get this.

Edit: Details here:

Quote
Greetings from Amazon Payments,

Beginning with the 2011 tax year, new IRS regulations require Amazon Payments to file a Form 1099-K for sellers who exceed $20,000 in unadjusted gross sales and 200 transactions in a calendar year. To assist us in complying with these regulations, we're requiring all Checkout by Amazon sellers, regardless of sales volume, to provide their tax identity information.

To help protect the security of your taxpayer identification information, please do not disclose it by e-mail or over the phone. Please enter your tax information in your seller account using a short interview process that can be accessed from the Settings tab. Click Account Info, and then edit the information in the Legal Entity section. To be a Checkout by Amazon seller, you must be a permanent U.S. resident, U.S. citizen, or U.S.-registered company with a substantial U.S. presence.

Please provide your tax identity information to Amazon Payments as soon as possible to prevent disruption to your seller account. If the required information isn't provided to Amazon Payments by December 26, 2011, your Checkout by Amazon selling privileges will be suspended until you provide the information.

For additional information about entering your tax information, see answers to frequently asked questions:

https://sellercentral.amazon.com/gp/help/200771510

Learn more about the regulations and Form 1099-K at the IRS website:

http://www.irs.gov/govt/fslg/article/0,,id=226894,00.html

Important Notice: Information in this document does not constitute tax, legal, or other professional advice. To find out how this new legislation will affect your business, or if you have other questions, please contact your tax, legal, or other professional advisor.


Best regards,

Amazon Payments
https://payments.amazon.com

This is an automated e-mail message. Please do not respond to it.
To contact our Seller Support team, click the Contact Seller Support link at the bottom of any seller Help page.

I guess we're safe considering they're only reporting $20k/year or more, just beware of going over 200 transactions (I wonder if that includes sending and receiving).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on October 06, 2011, 09:09:36 PM
They asked for last 4 of ssn provided at signup, and I wasn't sure what I had given so account now has limited AP functions (dunno what that means).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 07, 2011, 10:06:50 AM
They asked for last 4 of ssn provided at signup, and I wasn't sure what I had given so account now has limited AP functions (dunno what that means).

Do you know what may have triggered it? Recall anything?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on October 07, 2011, 11:12:09 AM
They asked for last 4 of ssn provided at signup, and I wasn't sure what I had given so account now has limited AP functions (dunno what that means).

I had the same thing happen with one of my duplicate accounts last week. Not really sure what triggered it. The only things I can think of are 1) I logged into the account from a number of public IP's (like library's). 2) The license was made up.. though I really don't think that's what caused it.  I don't even remember giving them A SS at sign up, so not sure how they can ask me to "confirm it'.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 09, 2011, 12:38:45 AM
Just did a payment for first time to a different account a sister with a different ip and dif address etc and it said will take twenty four hours to verify. Any reason for concern?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 09, 2011, 12:54:27 AM
Just did a payment for first time to a different account a sister with a different ip and dif address etc and it said will take twenty four hours to verify. Any reason for concern?
No!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 09, 2011, 01:33:12 AM
Good thing cause she sent money to my wife! Were doing three way me to her her to my wife and then me to sis again. This is even better than regular three way cause wife won't send it to me. This was trial run.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sun365 on October 09, 2011, 08:41:50 PM
Avid Reader,
I had the same thing, them asking for last four... not sure what this means, but I have a few AMZ accounts, and so far on two of them they asked for the 4#.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sun365 on October 10, 2011, 10:27:08 AM
I just got this from the account where they asked for last four of SS:

Thank you for signing in to your Amazon Payments account and verifying your account information.  Unfortunately, we were unable to confirm the information you submitted.

To verify your account information:

        1. Sign in to your Amazon Payments account.
        2. Click the Edit My Account Settings link at the top of the page.
        3. Click Verify My Account Information and submit the requested information.


Since I never gave them my SS the only way they could have checked is w/the bank or CC that I used to make a payment.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on October 10, 2011, 12:16:51 PM
Perhaps they have a way to compare the license number you gave them against the last 4 of the SSN, and they wanna see if it adds up.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on October 10, 2011, 04:22:06 PM
I had the same on 2 accounts. I'm wondering if they are looking for two accounts with the same last four digits that have money bouncing around between them.
In my case I confirmed one account and left the other one alone, if they cancel it so be it.
I think the trigger on my accounts were the names on those billing addresses were the same.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moshe80 on October 24, 2011, 04:53:36 PM
how long does it take til amazon send u the money in your bank account ?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on October 24, 2011, 05:01:56 PM
how long does it take til amazon send u the money in your bank account ?

Same as Paypal, more or less, IME (typically 1-3 business days, but sometimes as long as 5)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on October 24, 2011, 05:25:08 PM
Same as Paypal, more or less, IME (typically 1-3 business days, but sometimes as long as 5)
Same by me, usually 1 or 2 business days.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on October 24, 2011, 05:52:59 PM
Same as Paypal, more or less, IME (typically 1-3 business days, but sometimes as long as 5)

Definitely faster then PayPal. Usually 1-2 business days.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 24, 2011, 06:50:22 PM
Definitely faster then PayPal. Usually 1-2 business days.

+1, I get it most times overnight.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moshe80 on October 25, 2011, 03:13:14 PM
thanks for all i got it overnight
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: icon5585 on November 03, 2011, 04:51:03 PM
Does this still work? I talked to a amazon.com rep and asked if i could use a credit card to send my roommate rent money and he said no.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: TC610 on November 03, 2011, 05:02:08 PM
Does this still work? I talked to a amazon.com rep and asked if i could use a credit card to send my roommate rent money and he said no.
Clueless rep?

https://payments.amazon.com/

Sign up.  Send money.  Zero fees. 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: icon5585 on November 03, 2011, 05:07:09 PM
Clueless rep?

https://payments.amazon.com/

Sign up.  Send money.  Zero fees.

Even with personal accounts?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on November 03, 2011, 05:09:41 PM
Even with personal accounts?

Correct. (Up to $1000 in and out a month).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: icon5585 on November 03, 2011, 05:17:17 PM
Correct. (Up to $1000 in and out a month).

Has anyone with a chase card (specifically asking about chase sapphire preferred) made sure it's a charge and not a cash advance?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on November 03, 2011, 05:20:01 PM
Has anyone with a chase card (specifically asking about chase sapphire preferred) made sure it's a charge and not a cash advance?
You have the option of choosing a cash advance or payment for goods, it depends what you chose there. I have used a few diff. chase cards but not sapphire.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on November 03, 2011, 07:44:40 PM
Has anyone with a chase card (specifically asking about chase sapphire preferred) made sure it's a charge and not a cash advance?
I guess maybe i shouldn't be advertising this but i met the 5000 spend limit on the Chase Ink Bold in about 12 hours(10/31-11/1)
i always use different accounts amazon and checking and different amounts adding up to 1000 on each account
and it processed as a regular  charge
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: steeeveknowsbest on November 03, 2011, 07:54:41 PM
Has anyone with a chase card (specifically asking about chase sapphire preferred) made sure it's a charge and not a cash advance?
i had no problem with my saphire preferred on 3-4 occasions
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on November 03, 2011, 08:16:44 PM
I guess maybe i shouldn't be advertising this but i met the 5000 spend limit on the Chase Ink Bold in about 12 hours(10/31-11/1)
i always use different accounts amazon and checking and different amounts adding up to 1000 on each account
and it processed as a regular  charge
You use a different checking account for each Amazon acct?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: TC610 on November 03, 2011, 11:02:50 PM
I guess maybe i shouldn't be advertising this

On the contrary, you should be advertising this.  We're all about seeing what works and what does not work for other forum members. 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on November 04, 2011, 12:20:08 AM
You use a different checking account for each Amazon acct?
3 amazon accounts 3 checking accounts
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on November 04, 2011, 12:25:01 AM
3 amazon accounts 3 checking accounts

Different names on each checking account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on November 04, 2011, 12:25:45 AM
nope
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on November 04, 2011, 12:26:39 AM
nope

login to all of them from the same ip? how long have you been doing this for?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on November 04, 2011, 12:29:30 AM
and it processed as a regular  charge
see screen shot deff. a regular charge
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yellow on November 06, 2011, 04:02:01 PM
Is it possible to link a savings account? or just checking?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 06, 2011, 04:20:32 PM
Is it possible to link a savings account? or just checking?
Both will work
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 06, 2011, 04:28:29 PM
On the contrary, you should be advertising this.  We're all about seeing what works and what does not work for other forum members.
When you have been doing this long enough you will realize that discretion is an integral part of this game.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yellow on November 06, 2011, 04:47:21 PM
Both will work
Thank you
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: YudiG on November 06, 2011, 06:55:15 PM
At the end of the day...if I use one CC to send $900 to my wife and she uses another to send it back from two seperate - and new - amazon accounts using two separate ip addresses, is there any risk?

Any CC's this won't work for?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: TC610 on November 07, 2011, 10:07:17 AM
When you have been doing this long enough you will realize that discretion is an integral part of this game.
"this game" = the Amazon Payments game, or "this game" = the maximizing bonuses from multiple channels game?

I understand some tactics of the latter might not need to be made public.  However, in this case I was referring the sharing of how much people have been able to push the limits of Amazon Payments and the methods they're using without getting their accounts shut down.  It's no secret that some people are using multiple AP accounts, but the methods vary (i.e. different people/different names on the accounts/different IPs/different checking accounts, etc.).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 07, 2011, 11:11:42 AM
"this game" = the Amazon Payments game, or "this game" = the maximizing bonuses from multiple channels game?
"this game": to extract the maximum amount of points/miles/cash back from any program/deal/idea.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on November 07, 2011, 01:43:28 PM
i tried to send $800 this morning and they wouln't let the transaction thru, came up on the screen in a red box to contact cust. service, i have been doing this previously for many months. any ideas why? (yes i have a 1k limit with bank account verified)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on November 07, 2011, 04:14:08 PM
i tried to send $800 this morning and they wouln't let the transaction thru, came up on the screen in a red box to contact cust. service, i have been doing this previously for many months. any ideas why? (yes i have a 1k limit with bank account verified)
well i called up and they said the account is suspended (ouch!) but they didn't know why so they escalated it and i should recieve a reply within 24-48 hrs.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on November 07, 2011, 04:27:55 PM
well i called up and they said the account is suspended (ouch!) but they didn't know why so they escalated it and i should recieve a reply within 24-48 hrs.

Were you asked recently to verify the last 4 digits of your ss#?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: trying123 on November 07, 2011, 05:22:08 PM
i remember reading in DDF tht for reaching the chase spending limit buying amex gift card is not an option cuz they recognize it as a cash advance , im trying to find tht comment with no success can anybody link it , or maybe share their experience with chase and amex gift cards 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 07, 2011, 05:31:23 PM
Chase posts as a purchase. Citi is the one that will count it as a cash advance.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: trying123 on November 07, 2011, 05:34:29 PM
thanx
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: DovidR on November 08, 2011, 07:52:06 AM
Chase posts as a purchase. Citi is the one that will count it as a cash advance.
Clarification: you're discussing AMEX gift cards, not Amazon Payments. (A little confusing, considering the title of the thread.)
Amazon Payments, even on Citi, will be regarded as a purchase if you set up the payment correctly.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 08, 2011, 09:27:06 AM
Clarification: you're discussing AMEX gift cards, not Amazon Payments. (A little confusing, considering the title of the thread.)
Amazon Payments, even on Citi, will be regarded as a purchase if you set up the payment correctly.
Sorry about that. I was talking about Amex GC's.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: good sam on November 09, 2011, 11:53:55 AM
Here's a thought:

Why not apply for the Amazon Chase cc, which offers 3p/$ spent at Amazon.com.  IF (doubtful but maybe) this includes Amazon Payments, we could rack up 3000 points per month!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 09, 2011, 11:57:54 AM
Here's a thought:

Why not apply for the Amazon Chase cc, which offers 3p/$ spent at Amazon.com.  IF (doubtful but maybe) this includes Amazon Payments, we could rack up 3000 points per month!
Because it doesn't.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 09, 2011, 11:58:52 AM
Because it doesn't.

Do you know that for a fact?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: good sam on November 09, 2011, 12:29:48 PM
There's nothing about it in the fine print but maybe there doesn't have to be.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: good sam on November 09, 2011, 12:53:59 PM
Amazon Payments does not earn 3%. Just confirmed with a Chase rep.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 09, 2011, 01:00:38 PM
Amazon Payments does not earn 3%. Just confirmed with a Chase rep.

Quote from: Benjamin Franklin
Believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: good sam on November 09, 2011, 02:01:49 PM
 ???
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 09, 2011, 05:17:54 PM
Amazon Payments does not earn 3%. Just confirmed with a Chase rep.
1 Ė Donít ever call CSR about something like this. It just brings undo attention to it.
2 Ė Most CSR are clueless to these matters.
3 Ė The best way to verify this is trial and error.
4 Ė It does not work!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 09, 2011, 05:41:14 PM
1 Ė Donít ever call CSR about something like this. It just brings undo attention to it.
2 Ė Most CSR are clueless to these matters.
3 Ė The best way to verify this is trial and error.
4 Ė It does not work!

+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on November 10, 2011, 07:34:30 PM
I have a double points chase co card promo this month. To capitalize I want to buy amex gift cards and use them through amazon payments over the next few months. Can anyone think of anything I'm missing? Also any free Amex gift cards these days?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Spiffster on November 11, 2011, 03:52:08 AM
Using the Amazon card gets 0 points for AP.  I tried this a long time ago and again, just a couple months ago.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Thechy on November 13, 2011, 11:01:31 AM
Just received this email
Greetings from Amazon Payments.

We are writing because it has come to our attention that you have opened multiple accounts.

Amazon TextPayMe and Amazon WebPay have a combined sending and receiving limit of $1000 per month per user. Multiple accounts opened to potentially enhance this limit will be closed.

All pending transactions have been canceled and your Amazon Payments accounts closed.

We appreciate your compliance with this matter and thank you for your interest in Amazon Payments.

Sincerely,
I will keep you posted
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on November 13, 2011, 02:16:58 PM
has anyone ever experienced trouble using up an amex gc through amazon payments
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on November 13, 2011, 02:19:19 PM
has anyone ever experienced trouble using up an amex gc through amazon payments
Just emptied one. As has already been mentioned you have to take into account the $1 hold that they put on your card when you add it to your account. So if you have a $100 card you will only be able to send $99 right away
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on November 13, 2011, 03:00:30 PM
thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 13, 2011, 03:17:09 PM
Just emptied one. As has already been mentioned you have to take into account the $1 hold that they put on your card when you add it to your account. So if you have a $100 card you will only be able to send $99 right away
Add the card a week before you are going to drain it so you don't have this problem.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: scwam on November 13, 2011, 03:52:42 PM
Will amazon allow 5 x $100 gift card increments to be added and then a single $500 Amazon Payment to be applied to it?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: good sam on November 13, 2011, 03:58:30 PM
Just received this email
Greetings from Amazon Payments.

We are writing because it has come to our attention that you have opened multiple accounts.

Amazon TextPayMe and Amazon WebPay have a combined sending and receiving limit of $1000 per month per user. Multiple accounts opened to potentially enhance this limit will be closed.

All pending transactions have been canceled and your Amazon Payments accounts closed.

We appreciate your compliance with this matter and thank you for your interest in Amazon Payments.

Sincerely,
I will keep you posted
I'm assuming you had both accounts under the same name?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: boruch on November 17, 2011, 07:39:32 AM
I toughed this might be helpful to anyone.
I use two amazon payment accounts (one mine and one my wife's) to transfer money between them each month. I first use to do it to meet the spending requirements but now I just use it to collect rewards. ($2000 a month plus 7% dividend, I use two Chase Sapphires, gives me 25680 extra UR a year)
I have two different checking accounts linked to the AP accounts. IME, Chase takes their time (6-7 days) transferring the money back into your checking (to pay your CC). Bank of America however transfers it within 1-2 days. Sometimes even on the same day!
So if you need/want to pay your CC bill ASAP don't use Chase. Unless, of course, if you have had different experiences.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Thechy on November 20, 2011, 12:52:32 AM
Good Sam
Yes
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lbvtch on November 20, 2011, 06:48:17 PM
any reported problems with the Citi Advantage card?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on November 21, 2011, 12:10:09 AM
any reported problems with the Citi Advantage card?

None that I know of. I've been using them smoothly with Amazon payments over the last few months.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on December 01, 2011, 09:40:45 AM
Never had a problem with my Chase account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Devorah on December 01, 2011, 09:52:22 AM
Just received this email
Greetings from Amazon Payments.

We are writing because it has come to our attention that you have opened multiple accounts.

Amazon TextPayMe and Amazon WebPay have a combined sending and receiving limit of $1000 per month per user. Multiple accounts opened to potentially enhance this limit will be closed.

All pending transactions have been canceled and your Amazon Payments accounts closed.

We appreciate your compliance with this matter and thank you for your interest in Amazon Payments.

Sincerely,
I will keep you posted


Good luck with that.  I got the same and tried to contact them numerous times (I only had one account in my name) and there is no one to talk to.  Eventually, gave up and opened a new account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: SGF on December 01, 2011, 01:36:46 PM
anyone know if you can do the same with paypal (not for free) like to transfer money and it would come out like a charge on ur CC?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: joeb1 on December 01, 2011, 01:39:30 PM
of course but u will get a 2.9% charge
u may be able to refund the $ after u get the bonus miles and no fee will apply however ymmv on u losing your bonus miles
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: TC610 on December 01, 2011, 02:33:20 PM
anyone know if you can do the same with paypal (not for free) like to transfer money and it would come out like a charge on ur CC?

Either I'm reading your comment wrong, or the title of this thread answered your question for you.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on December 02, 2011, 11:55:29 AM
This might making multiple accounts a little more complicated. We'll have to see what happens
Quote
As a result of changes to federal regulations, Amazon Payments requires that you provide your Social Security Number and verify your name and address.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on December 02, 2011, 11:58:54 AM
Bummer. Now if only they verify the SSN the same way they've been verifying the license numbers, we'll be okay ;)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on December 02, 2011, 11:59:47 AM
Bummer. Now if only they verify the SSN the same way they've been verifying the license numbers, we'll be okay ;)

lol
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Esther on December 02, 2011, 12:56:16 PM
Do they use home addresses for anything? Meaning can I use my home address for my account to make a payment to my father with him using our summer address? Same last name would be an issue? Cuz I can use my mother's maiden name....
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on December 02, 2011, 12:58:44 PM
Do they use home addresses for anything? Meaning can I use my home address for my account to make a payment to my father with him using our summer address? Same last name would be an issue? Cuz I can use my mother's maiden name....
I had same questions but I think it's not a rule it's just that in general the further you distance yourself from the payee the better off you are. One or two payments would prob not make a dif but if. You consistently do it discretion is better.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on December 02, 2011, 01:04:44 PM
Do they use home addresses for anything? Meaning can I use my home address for my account to make a payment to my father with him using our summer address? Same last name would be an issue? Cuz I can use my mother's maiden name....
I had same questions but I think it's not a rule it's just that in general the further you distance yourself from the payee the better off you are. One or two payments would prob not make a dif but if. You consistently do it discretion is better.

Whatever you do, don't keep logging onto both accounts (sender and recipient) from the same location (IP address).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 02, 2011, 02:45:09 PM
Bummer. Now if only they verify the SSN the same way they've been verifying the license numbers, we'll be okay ;)
Make sure you read all the T&Cís when you open the account and any additional information they ask for. Providing false information could get you in big trouble if you are not careful.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: TC610 on December 02, 2011, 04:06:01 PM
This might making multiple accounts a little more complicated. We'll have to see what happens
"As a result of changes to federal regulations, Amazon Payments requires that you provide your Social Security Number and verify your name and address.

FWIW, if you were using less-than-accurate information in your AP account, you can "X" out of the verification popup and still send money.  I'm assuming this is only for a limited time and at some point you won't be able to continue without entering the required information.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: TC610 on December 02, 2011, 04:07:25 PM
Make sure you read all the T&Cís when you open the account and any additional information they ask for. Providing false information could get you in big trouble if you are not careful.

I don't doubt it.  But just so I don't have to comb through 37 pages of T&Cs, can you summarize what you found?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on December 05, 2011, 06:04:25 PM
Social Security and address for AP????!!!!  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 05, 2011, 06:11:46 PM
Social Security and address for AP????!!!!  >:( >:(

Farshultine government .
They need it to send out 1099-k.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 05, 2011, 11:13:32 PM
My friend is willing to let me use my SP on his website to get to $3K for the 50K point bonus. Is 50K points worth the 2.2% I'd have to pay him, on approximately $2500?

Alternatively, can I make a $2500 purchase by him and have him refund the money before my next billing cycle? Would that satisfy SP's requirements?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 05, 2011, 11:23:39 PM
$3000 x .022 = $66.

50,000 UR > $66. ( Considerably so.)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 05, 2011, 11:26:55 PM
<facepalm> Yes, that should have been quite obvious. Thanks.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 05, 2011, 11:28:20 PM
<facepalm> Yes, that should have been quite obvious. Thanks.

I should point out that you may want to wait to use your friend until the last moment in an effort to reduce your final cash outlay.

In other words, spend as much as you can on your own (think creatively) for 10-11 weeks, and then use your friend for the balance.

You'd be saving yourself 2.2%/$.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: joeb1 on December 05, 2011, 11:28:40 PM
ap is free
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 05, 2011, 11:30:12 PM
What about my other suggestion? Purchase something on his website after 11 weeks, wait for the bonus to hit, then have him issue me a refund before that charge posts for me.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: joeb1 on December 05, 2011, 11:39:54 PM
sounds great!
i do that with paypal for all my big spending bonuses
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 05, 2011, 11:47:51 PM
i do that with paypal for all my big spending bonuses
Interesting. Buy something using my SP on Paypal, return it and get the refund to my Paypal balance instead of the original SP? That works? If that's the case, why is Paypal+returning the item not the recommended method round these parts? Seems foolproof.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: joeb1 on December 06, 2011, 12:10:17 AM
no refund it and itll go to the original card..u only lose the spending points not the bonus however ymmv if theyll clawback the bonus
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on December 06, 2011, 12:52:52 AM
FWIW, if you were using less-than-accurate information in your AP account, you can "X" out of the verification popup and still send money.  I'm assuming this is only for a limited time and at some point you won't be able to continue without entering the required information.
i think december 26 you won't be able to x anymore as it seems from this letter posted earlier in this thread.

Greetings from Amazon Payments,

Beginning with the 2011 tax year, new IRS regulations require Amazon Payments to file a Form 1099-K for sellers who exceed $20,000 in unadjusted gross sales and 200 transactions in a calendar year. To assist us in complying with these regulations, we're requiring all Checkout by Amazon sellers, regardless of sales volume, to provide their tax identity information.

To help protect the security of your taxpayer identification information, please do not disclose it by e-mail or over the phone. Please enter your tax information in your seller account using a short interview process that can be accessed from the Settings tab. Click Account Info, and then edit the information in the Legal Entity section. To be a Checkout by Amazon seller, you must be a permanent U.S. resident, U.S. citizen, or U.S.-registered company with a substantial U.S. presence.

Please provide your tax identity information to Amazon Payments as soon as possible to prevent disruption to your seller account. If the required information isn't provided to Amazon Payments by December 26, 2011, your Checkout by Amazon selling privileges will be suspended until you provide the information.

For additional information about entering your tax information, see answers to frequently asked questions:

https://sellercentral.amazon.com/gp/help/200771510

Learn more about the regulations and Form 1099-K at the IRS website:

http://www.irs.gov/govt/fslg/article/0,,id=226894,00.html

Important Notice: Information in this document does not constitute tax, legal, or other professional advice. To find out how this new legislation will affect your business, or if you have other questions, please contact your tax, legal, or other professional advisor.


Best regards,

Amazon Payments
https://payments.amazon.com

This is an automated e-mail message. Please do not respond to it.
To contact our Seller Support team, click the Contact Seller Support link at the bottom of any seller Help page.



Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on December 06, 2011, 01:12:56 AM
found this on amazon's website.

What is the deadline for providing the required information?

Business account holders have until December 26, 2011 to provide the information. Personal account holders have until December 31, 2011.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 06, 2011, 01:26:11 AM
What can I expect from Amazon?
Beginning in 2011, sellers who exceed 50 transactions in a calendar year, regardless of sales volume, will be required by Amazon to provide taxpayer identification information to Amazon. If the required information is not provided to Amazon by December 26, 2011, your Amazon selling privileges will be suspended until you provide the information.

Do the new regulations apply to all Amazon sellers?
Yes, however at this time only sellers that exceed 50 transactions in a calendar year, regardless of sales volume, will be required to provide taxpayer identification information to Amazon.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 06, 2011, 09:07:18 PM
FYI this new reporting law is not just for AP. I got this notice on both of my business PayPal accounts, both my Amazon seller accounts, and my eBay seller account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: joeb1 on December 08, 2011, 03:05:28 PM
just got the email from ap:'

Dear Amazon Payments customer,
As a result of changes to federal regulations, we now require all Amazon Payments accountholders to provide a Tax Identification Number (TIN). For customers with Personal Accounts, your TIN is your Social Security Number.
From December 31st 2011, accounts without an associated TIN will no longer be able to receive incoming funds. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
To provide your TIN, and to ensure that the name and address on file are complete and accurate, please visit www.amazonpayments.com and log in. You will be guided through a short process to ensure that you continue to have access to all the features of your account.
To help protect the security of your taxpayer identification information, please do not disclose it by e-mail or over the phone.
For additional information see answers to frequently asked questions:
https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/helpTab?ref_=pe_187280_21965770
Important Notice: Information in this e-mail does not constitute tax, legal, or other professional advice. To find out how this new legislation will affect your business, or if you have other questions, please contact your tax, legal, or other professional advisor.
Best regards,
Amazon Payments
https://payments.amazon.com
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 09, 2011, 03:06:48 AM
just got the email from ap:'

Dear Amazon Payments customer,
As a result of changes to federal regulations, we now require all Amazon Payments accountholders to provide a Tax Identification Number (TIN). For customers with Personal Accounts, your TIN is your Social Security Number.
From December 31st 2011, accounts without an associated TIN will no longer be able to receive incoming funds. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
To provide your TIN, and to ensure that the name and address on file are complete and accurate, please visit www.amazonpayments.com and log in. You will be guided through a short process to ensure that you continue to have access to all the features of your account.
To help protect the security of your taxpayer identification information, please do not disclose it by e-mail or over the phone.
For additional information see answers to frequently asked questions:
https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/helpTab?ref_=pe_187280_21965770
Important Notice: Information in this e-mail does not constitute tax, legal, or other professional advice. To find out how this new legislation will affect your business, or if you have other questions, please contact your tax, legal, or other professional advisor.
Best regards,
Amazon Payments
https://payments.amazon.com
notice you can still send w/o a SSN just cant receive, so this shouldn't be to much of an issue, just give your SSN for one account .
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on December 09, 2011, 03:16:34 AM
notice you can still send w/o a SSN just cant receive, so this shouldn't be to much of an issue, just give your SSN for one account .

Not so simple. If you've got multiple receiving accounts you'll have an issue, and if you want to create a new account they might not let you do it without providing an SSN.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 09, 2011, 11:17:29 AM
Not so simple. If you've got multiple receiving accounts you'll have an issue, and if you want to create a new account they might not let you do it without providing an SSN.
can anyone confirm if they recently (after AP started asking for your SSN) opened an account w/o giving their SSN?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on December 09, 2011, 11:18:32 AM
can anyone confirm if they recently (after AP started asking for your SSN) opened an account w/o giving their SSN?

yes
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: rosie5442 on December 09, 2011, 12:02:24 PM
Opened an account yesterday and I had to give ss or I couldn't continue
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 09, 2011, 01:03:08 PM
can anyone confirm if they recently (after AP started asking for your SSN) opened an account w/o giving their SSN?
yes
Opened an account yesterday and I had to give ss or I couldn't continue
hmm? @bubbles when did you open your account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on December 09, 2011, 01:50:24 PM
I just opened an accnt without a SSN.

But this probably won't last much longer.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: YG on December 10, 2011, 10:36:54 PM
is there any way to withdraw $ into an account without AP seeing the name on the account when you register it?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: good sam on December 10, 2011, 10:38:29 PM
is there any way to withdraw $ into an account without AP seeing the name on the account when you register it?
No. They won't be able to verify the account without a name.
EDIT: But the name on the account need not match the name on the AP account IME.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: YG on December 10, 2011, 10:55:32 PM
No. They won't be able to verify the account without a name.
EDIT: But the name on the account need not match the name on the AP account IME.

However, if the last name matches that on the CC that the payment came from, it may be contentious.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ashers on December 13, 2011, 12:16:40 PM
Do you think they will catch on to the "husband & wife" transfers?
If they have the SS numbers and  we file taxes together ....  ???
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on December 13, 2011, 12:26:18 PM
I think it won't be long before the whole thing dries up with very strict rules, it's just a matter of time (e.g. dollar coins from the mint). Enjoy it while it lasts.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ashers on December 13, 2011, 12:27:11 PM
fiigured.....
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 13, 2011, 01:18:57 PM
Do you think they will catch on to the "husband & wife" transfers?
If they have the SS numbers and  we file taxes together ....  ???
Is there anything in the T&C that specifically states you can't transfer money to your spouse?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: stever on December 13, 2011, 01:53:41 PM
I think it won't be long before the whole thing dries up with very strict rules, it's just a matter of time (e.g. dollar coins from the mint). Enjoy it while it lasts.
once i reached my threshold do u think its worth it to just stam use ap for 1000 points?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 13, 2011, 03:59:44 PM
I've been following this thread for a couple of months now and finally decided that I'm going to sign up.
I went to the sign up page and its asking me a bunch of questions about my business. Do they also offer a "personal" account , or this is the only type of account they have and this is wat everybody is using? 
Thanx
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on December 14, 2011, 12:06:40 AM
needed social for new accts.
no more disposable accts. >:(
i think amazon is onto me
i tried sending money from one acct to another legit. accts family members with ss and different bank accts just tried using the same 2 ccs to meet spending thresholds and the 1st went through no prob but all future were pending
i used random amounts
wrote thing in the comments area
and used diff. ips
any tricks anyone?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: trying123 on December 14, 2011, 12:37:22 AM
I got plenty payments pending for no good reason but they usually clear within 24he's so just. Calmly wait it out and keep us posted
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on December 18, 2011, 01:12:45 AM
Any reason not to put in your social? Besides for multiple accts in one name?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on December 18, 2011, 01:38:29 AM
Any reason not to put in your social?
It's easier for them to ban you that way if they wanted to, but otherwise, I wouldn't worry about it
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on December 18, 2011, 08:47:32 AM
I would not want the IRS getting a 1099 for $24,000 (myself and wife) and then audit me.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on December 18, 2011, 08:49:09 AM
I would not want the IRS getting a 1099 for $24,000 (myself and wife) and then audit me.

Why would they send out 1099's for personal accounts? after all, were just transferring money. Did they say they were going to do this?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on December 18, 2011, 10:20:56 AM
I think they did, and its not a money transfer its a payment.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: compddd on December 18, 2011, 10:33:03 AM
Beginning with the 2011 tax year, new Internal Revenue Service (IRS) regulations require that U.S. third-party settlement organizations and payment processors, including Amazon Payments, file Form 1099-K to report unadjusted annual gross sales or payment volume information for customers that meet both of the following thresholds in a calendar year:

More than $20,000 in gross payment volume, and
More than 200 transactions.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Even if your account does not meet the above criteria, Amazon Payments still requires you to provide tax identification information to Amazon Payments.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on December 19, 2011, 03:38:31 PM
I would not want the IRS getting a 1099 for $24,000 (myself and wife) and then audit me.
Are you saying that if a husband and a wife each recieve $12,000 in payments, Amazon will consider it as over $20,000 in payments and send the IRS a 1099? How would Amazon know that you file a joint tax return?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ashers on December 19, 2011, 05:34:36 PM
They are catching on to any multiple account regardless of SS#... :-[
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 19, 2011, 05:55:21 PM
They are catching on to any multiple account regardless of SS#... :-[
Why do you say that?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on December 19, 2011, 06:54:25 PM
No, but if amazon will send out the 1099 even for lower amounts (time will tell) I would not be interested.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on December 19, 2011, 09:07:57 PM
No, but if amazon will send out the 1099 even for lower amounts (time will tell) I would not be interested.
Do you think Amazon would send out a 1099 before informing us that they're changing their policy? Right now they clearly state that they'll only send it out for $20,000 as required by the IRS. Please respond if you have reason to believe that, because I don't either want to get audited.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 20, 2011, 01:44:40 PM
does anyone know if they are actually verifying the SSN's?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: candona on December 21, 2011, 08:23:32 AM
i gave a wrong ss yesterday  then made a transaction and it  went through
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 21, 2011, 10:12:21 AM
i gave a wrong ss yesterday  then made a transaction and it  went through
+1 same here
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: TC610 on December 21, 2011, 12:44:56 PM
i gave a wrong ss yesterday  then made a transaction and it  went through

A couple of months ago I was asked to verify account information for AP.  I re-entered my false information and was able to make transactions for the next 3-4 business days.  Then I got an e-mail saying they were unable to verify my information and shut down that AP account.  Granted, that was a different scenario (asking for my last 4 of the SSN versus asking for the full SSNs), but please keep us updated on what happens.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on December 22, 2011, 09:11:56 AM
Is it possible for amazon or venmo to trace two accounts to the same iPad if we use different ip address or the device itself isn't trackable?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on December 22, 2011, 09:52:34 AM
A device is trackable in more ways than the ip (most notably cookies), use incognito and close (even then there are still ways to track) , before doing the next one.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 22, 2011, 04:58:49 PM
When transferring funds from AP,  How long does it take for funds to show up in checking acct?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 22, 2011, 05:31:32 PM
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Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 22, 2011, 05:35:57 PM
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  ???
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 22, 2011, 06:26:01 PM
  ???
I have so many different accounts it is hard to remember them all. I wanted to double check to make sure I was giving you the correct info. Withdraws done in the morning are in my CU account the next day.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 22, 2011, 07:27:20 PM
I have so many different accounts it is hard to remember them all. I wanted to double check to make sure I was giving you the correct info. Withdraws done in the morning are in my CU account the next day.

Thanx for confirming.
I'm assuming "CU" means checking account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on December 22, 2011, 07:28:46 PM
Thanx for confirming.
I'm assuming "CU" means checking account.
Credit Union(s), where they won't delay your deposits so they can play with your money until they post it to your account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 22, 2011, 07:33:11 PM
Credit Union(s), where they won't delay your deposits so they can play with your money until they post it to your account.

Thanx.  So his confirmation doesn't really do much for me.

Does anybody know how long it takes for the funds to show up in my checking account   when transferring money from AP?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 22, 2011, 07:34:50 PM
Thanx.  So his confirmation doesn't really do much for me.

Does anybody know how long it takes for the funds to show up in my checking account   when transferring money from AP?
This is to a checking account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on December 22, 2011, 07:55:13 PM
This is to a checking account.

At a credit union, banks wouldn't be the same, at least not IME.

Does anybody know how long it takes for the funds to show up in my checking account   when transferring money from AP?

IME it takes like 2 business days for AP transfers to post to my Chase checking, but IIRC AP says it's officially up to 5 business days. My guess is it probably varies by bank but you can typically expect it to post within 2-3 business days at most.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 22, 2011, 07:57:46 PM
At a credit union, banks wouldn't be the same, at least not IME.
WRONG! BOA is also the next day when withdraw is done in the morning.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on December 22, 2011, 08:03:26 PM
WRONG! BOA is also the next day when withdraw is done in the morning.

Whoa!

I specifically qualified my post for trolls like you:

At a credit union, banks wouldn't be the same, at least not IME.

I also wrote:

My guess is it probably varies by bank but you can typically expect it to post within 2-3 business days at most.

So are you arguing with my experience? Or am I wrong that it varies by bank?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 22, 2011, 08:09:17 PM
It might be a good idea to post on experience or other members experience instead of opinion. It does vary by FIís and has nothing to do with it being a CU or bank.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on December 22, 2011, 08:11:42 PM
It might be a good idea to post on experience or other members experience instead of opinion. It does vary by FIís and has nothing to do with it being a CU or bank.

I posted based on experience and suggested that banks (who are typically hungrier for revenue compared to CUs) tend to delay deposits. What part of that is wrong?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 22, 2011, 08:18:05 PM
I apologize. I interrupted your IME wrong.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on December 22, 2011, 08:32:25 PM
I apologize. I interrupted your IME wrong.

Interpreted?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 22, 2011, 08:36:13 PM
Interpreted?
Yes, I think i need some sleep!  :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: azhoopsfan on December 23, 2011, 04:48:19 PM
In case this wasn't mentioned before, no income or loss is recognized on transactions between spouses.  Thus, if you transfer money to your spouse for "goods/services" you're not going to taxed on that money even if you get a 1099. 

Similarly, if your basis in an asset equals the price you sell it at, you'll have no tax.  For example if you buy a watch for $600 and sell it to someone for $600 and your paid through AP, the $600 is not income and is not taxed. 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 23, 2011, 05:59:30 PM
In case this wasn't mentioned before, no income or loss is recognized on transactions between spouses.  Thus, if you transfer money to your spouse for "goods/services" you're not going to taxed on that money even if you get a 1099. 

Similarly, if your basis in an asset equals the price you sell it at, you'll have no tax.  For example if you buy a watch for $600 and sell it to someone for $600 and your paid through AP, the $600 is not income and is not taxed.
AP does not care if the payments you receive is considered income or not. Once you receive a 1099 you will have to claim this on your taxes. Do really want to have this situation in case of an audit?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 24, 2011, 06:49:08 PM
Once you receive a 1099 you will have to claim this on your taxes.
Claim what on taxes?  Just because you get a 1099 does not mean you can't deduct everything as old items sold at a loss. 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 24, 2011, 11:57:41 PM
Claim what on taxes?  Just because you get a 1099 does not mean you can't deduct everything as old items sold at a loss.
If you receive a 1099k this amount must be entered (schedule C) when you file your taxes. If you have expenses you also enter them. It is not like I received 50k and the items cost me 51k so I just forget about the 1099k since I had a 1k loss. 

I did not know members here were actually buying items and selling them for a lost. I thought they were doing this to meet spending requirements and to harvest points/miles.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ANONYMOUS on December 25, 2011, 08:47:10 AM
I HAVE A QUESTION, IF I NEED LETS SAY $80,000 CASH & I HAVE A CREDIT CARD WITH A $100,000 LIMIT, DO YOU KNOW OF ANYWAY TO GET CASH OUT OF THE CARD WITHOUT GOING TO AN ATM B/C OF HIGH INTEREST RATES THAT OCCUR WHEN YOU TAKE STRAIGHT CASH OUT???

I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE ANY ADVICE! THANKS!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 25, 2011, 08:51:12 AM
Square will cost you 2.75%
Other options are multiple Venmo/amazon payments accts
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ANONYMOUS on December 25, 2011, 08:58:51 AM
WHAT'S "SQUARE" I HAVE NO PROBLEM PAYING 2.75%! CAN YOU GUIDE ME HOW TO DO IT?

& I DO NOT KNOW WHAT "VENMO" IS?

ALSO I THOUGHT THAT AMAZON PAYMENTS IS ONLY UP TO $1,000?

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP IN THIS MATTER- PLATINUM GUY!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ANONYMOUS on December 25, 2011, 09:07:19 AM
Square will cost you 2.75%
Other options are multiple Venmo/amazon payments accts
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on December 25, 2011, 09:18:38 AM
I HAVE A QUESTION, IF I NEED LETS SAY $80,000 CASH & I HAVE A CREDIT CARD WITH A $100,000 LIMIT, DO YOU KNOW OF ANYWAY TO GET CASH OUT OF THE CARD WITHOUT GOING TO AN ATM B/C OF HIGH INTEREST RATES THAT OCCUR WHEN YOU TAKE STRAIGHT CASH OUT???

I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE ANY ADVICE! THANKS!
WHAT'S "SQUARE" I HAVE NO PROBLEM PAYING 2.75%! CAN YOU GUIDE ME HOW TO DO IT?

& I DO NOT KNOW WHAT "VENMO" IS?

ALSO I THOUGHT THAT AMAZON PAYMENTS IS ONLY UP TO $1,000?

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP IN THIS MATTER- PLATINUM GUY!

Do you mind toning it down with the caps?  ???
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on December 25, 2011, 09:19:58 AM
Do you mind toning it down with the caps?  ???

+1

There's no reason to SCREAM, we can 'hear' you just fine when you write in lower case.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ANONYMOUS on December 25, 2011, 09:22:02 AM
No Problem!

I Apologize!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 25, 2011, 11:45:47 AM
I HAVE A QUESTION, IF I NEED LETS SAY $80,000 CASH & I HAVE A CREDIT CARD WITH A $100,000 LIMIT, DO YOU KNOW OF ANYWAY TO GET CASH OUT OF THE CARD WITHOUT GOING TO AN ATM B/C OF HIGH INTEREST RATES THAT OCCUR WHEN YOU TAKE STRAIGHT CASH OUT???

I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE ANY ADVICE! THANKS!
That is the ďGolden GooseĒ of this game. My guess is it would take at least a year if not more of trust between members for some to reveal this to you if it did exist.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on December 25, 2011, 11:53:10 AM
huh?!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ANONYMOUS on December 25, 2011, 11:54:57 AM
That is the ďGolden GooseĒ of this game. My guess is it would take at least a year if not more of trust between members for some to reveal this to you if it did exist.

I honestly have absolutely no clue what you are referring to or talking about!!!
I wish I would understand!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 26, 2011, 08:27:09 AM
I honestly have absolutely no clue what you are referring to or talking about!!!
I wish I would understand!
You are asking on how to turn your CL into cash without the CA fees. It is the same as asking ďHow do I turn my CL into miles, points or cash back with little or no fees?Ē Every member wants the answer to this question. For small amounts ways have already been listed. To find ways to do this on a large scale is what everyone wants to know. If someone was to post this on a public forum it would get killed (kill the Golden Goose) in a matter of days. Certain ways are talked about on private forums but only after trust has been built between members that it will not be repeated. IMHO there are members here that belong to private forums and know exactly what I am talking about. 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: DevoiriS on December 26, 2011, 11:18:31 AM
Are there fees associated with each payment sent/received?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 26, 2011, 12:45:15 PM
Are there fees associated with each payment sent/received?

Using Amazon Payments? No.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ANONYMOUS on December 26, 2011, 01:29:57 PM
You are asking on how to turn your CL into cash without the CA fees. It is the same as asking ďHow do I turn my CL into miles, points or cash back with little or no fees?Ē Every member wants the answer to this question. For small amounts ways have already been listed. To find ways to do this on a large scale is what everyone wants to know. If someone was to post this on a public forum it would get killed (kill the Golden Goose) in a matter of days. Certain ways are talked about on private forums but only after trust has been built between members that it will not be repeated. IMHO there are members here that belong to private forums and know exactly what I am talking about.

I'm NOT looking for a cheap way! I WOULD pay 2.75% or 3%, but I don't want to pay the 15% that the Credit Card Company will charge me for taking out direct cash, let's say from an ATM!!!

So with paying 2.75% or 3% you CANNOT make money or miles on the deal!!!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: joeb1 on December 26, 2011, 03:41:52 PM
paypal is 2.9% and ull get points for ising ur cc which should bring the fee down
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on December 26, 2011, 03:48:34 PM
paypal is 2.9% and ull get points for ising ur cc which should bring the fee down

Paypal is only 1.9% >100k,  see here (https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_fees-rate-about) for details.

100k through paypal and you're bound to get busted. Also remember that Paypal is now issuing 1099s (>$20k)...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 26, 2011, 03:57:41 PM
100k through paypal and you're bound to get busted. Also remember that Paypal is now issuing 1099s (>$20k)...
It is 20k and 200 transactions. If you do small amounts with PP you can last a long time. Try sending 9.9k at a time and you will get shut down real quick. They did have a 10k per send limit but I am not sure what it is now.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on December 26, 2011, 03:58:50 PM
It is 20k and 200 transactions. If you do small amounts with PP you can last a long time. Try sending 9.9k at a time and you will get shut down real quick. They did have a 10k limit but I am not sure what it is now.

What do you consider 'small'?

If he's making all the 'payments' to one account he might get flagged even for small amounts.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 26, 2011, 04:41:49 PM
What do you consider 'small'?

If he's making all the 'payments' to one account he might get flagged even for small amounts.
I would consider under 1k small. You are allowed to have two PP accounts. It would be best to send to as many different accounts that you can. In the past for this kind of activity they would give a warning before a ban.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on December 26, 2011, 04:47:53 PM
I would consider under 1k small. You are allowed to have two PP accounts. It would be best to send to as many different accounts that you can. In the past for this kind of activity they would give a warning before a ban.

Under $1 would mean 100+ payments to get to 100k. Also, paying multiple accounts means you miss out on maximizing Paypal's volume discount (which I liked to above), just some things to consider.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 26, 2011, 04:55:42 PM
Under $1 would mean 100+ payments to get to 100k. Also, paying multiple accounts means you miss out on maximizing Paypal's volume discount (which I liked to above), just some things to consider.
I think you meant 1k not $1 but you are correct. When I was sending money I never received any discount and it was way above 100k total. On items purchased from me I did receive the lower 1.9%.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ANONYMOUS on December 26, 2011, 05:33:37 PM
Square will cost you 2.75%
Other options are multiple Venmo/amazon payments accts

Anyone know what "square" is?
What's he referring to?
Anyone know?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 26, 2011, 05:35:58 PM
Anyone know what "square" is?
What's he referring to?
Anyone know?

Come on, Mr. Dude, Gooooogle is your friend (https://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=square+credit+card+processing&pbx=1&oq=square+credit+card+processing&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=8211l9492l1l9602l10l5l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&biw=1366&bih=643&ech=1&psi=evb4ToGaI8bTgQeG9MiyAg.1324938877326.6&emsg=NCSR&noj=1&ei=h_b4Tr7zONTegQeChsGqAg).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ANONYMOUS on December 26, 2011, 06:04:35 PM
I did, but you can't get a CLEAR answer whether a transaction of $80,000-$100,000 would work!
& they have NO Contact Phone Number!!!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ANONYMOUS on December 26, 2011, 06:06:57 PM
Square will cost you 2.75%
Other options are multiple Venmo/amazon payments accts
[/quote

& Does anyone know what "Venmo" is?
Or what this guy means to say?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 26, 2011, 06:10:09 PM
Neither Venmo nor Amazon Pmts are going to get you anywhere near $100k, so forget them (unless 3k/mo interests you).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ANONYMOUS on December 26, 2011, 06:13:10 PM
Neither Venmo nor Amazon Pmts are going to get you anywhere near $100k, so forget them (unless 3k/mo interests you).

No it doesn't, Thanks!!!!

If anyone has any suggestions please let me know!
Thanks a lot in advance!!!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 27, 2011, 12:19:05 AM
If anyone has any suggestions please let me know!
Tax season is fast approaching. You can overpay your taxes, file right away and receive a refund for the overpayment shortly after that.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ANONYMOUS on December 27, 2011, 07:14:52 AM
First of all, over pay by $100,000 really?

Second, Can I use my credit card to pay my taxes?

Again I'm not looking necessarily for free way to take out CASH out of my credit card, I'm just looking for a less expensive way. For example: low percentage or small fee.

Thanks again in advance if anyone has any advice in this matter!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 27, 2011, 07:27:57 AM
First of all, over pay by $100,000 really?

Second, Can I use my credit card to pay my taxes?

Again I'm not looking necessarily for free way to take out CASH out of my credit card, I'm just looking for a less expensive way. For example: low percentage or small fee.

Thanks again in advance if anyone has any advice in this matter!
I donít know about 100k but what can they do just keep your money? I have seen 40-45k overpayments. The fees are around 2.2 Ė 2.5% (VS, MC or Amex). This strategy works great on cards with 0% on purchases for 6-12 months!

Link to approved IRS online sites: http://www.irs.gov/efile/article/0,,id=101316,00.html
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 27, 2011, 10:04:24 AM
1.9% MC only: https://mastercard.choicepay.com
2.29% Visa/AMEX: https://valuetaxpayment.com/
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 27, 2011, 11:06:04 AM
1.9% MC only: https://mastercard.choicepay.com
2.29% Visa/AMEX: https://valuetaxpayment.com/
If you have a debit card that gives rewards that might work also. Flat 4 buck fee.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 27, 2011, 11:13:12 AM
If you have a debit card that gives rewards that might work also. Flat 4 buck fee.
All my good debit card rewards programs ended this past year.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 27, 2011, 11:19:03 AM
All my good debit card rewards programs ended this past year.
I never got into it but isnít there a couple airline debit cards that give you miles?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 27, 2011, 11:23:36 AM
I never got into it but isnít there a couple airline debit cards that give you miles?
They all ended this year AFAIK.  Was a gravy train with money orders.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ANONYMOUS on December 27, 2011, 12:40:37 PM
Oh, can I buy money orders with a Credit Card?
Anyone know?
Did anyone try it?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Mocha on December 27, 2011, 12:46:21 PM
Oh, can I buy money orders with a Credit Card?
Anyone know?
Did anyone try it?
No. Yes. Yes.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 01, 2012, 03:33:43 PM
Anyone have any new data points on problems with using Amex on AP? On Venmo?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on January 01, 2012, 09:58:47 PM
Well it is Jan 1st, and I was still able to receive payments today on my AP accounts without inputting the required SSN.

(Edit typo)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 01, 2012, 10:02:17 PM
Well it is Jan 1st, and I was still able to receive payments today on my AP accounts with inputting the required SSN.

Do you mean "without"?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Mocha on January 01, 2012, 10:03:17 PM
Do you mean "without"?
obviously if he said he was still
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on January 01, 2012, 10:18:28 PM
Yes sorry - without. 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 01, 2012, 10:19:08 PM
same here did payments and got payments today without social no problem
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: dealvr on January 03, 2012, 01:50:13 PM
I just bought something from www.otherworldcomputing.com and chose the checkout through amazon option. Not realizing what was going to happen, they billed my cc through amazon payments. I used an amex and the purchase was under $10.00. Do I have any reason to worry about this sparking a FR?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Mocha on January 03, 2012, 01:53:07 PM
I just bought something from www.otherworldcomputing.com and chose the checkout through amazon option. Not realizing what was going to happen, they billed my cc through amazon payments. I used an amex and the purchase was under $10.00. Do I have any reason to worry about this sparking a FR?
Nope relax
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: dealvr on January 03, 2012, 01:54:02 PM
Nope relax
Phew. It's the last thing I need right now.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ANONYMOUS on January 03, 2012, 03:30:33 PM
I heard that there is something called an "Amex reload-able Gift Card" which can be used to take out CASH from an ATM! (Which means it comes with a pin!)

I also heard that it costs $4.95 for every $500 that I can take out from the ATM!

But can anyone confirm that this is true?
Meaning that they have done this already?

Thanks in Advance!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Mocha on January 03, 2012, 03:34:43 PM
I heard that there is something called an "Amex reload-able Gift Card" which can be used to take out CASH from an ATM! (Which means it comes with a pin!)

I also heard that it costs $4.95 for every $500 that I can take out from the ATM!

But can anyone confirm that this is true?
Meaning that they have done this already?

Thanks in Advance!
Wrong thread. This is besides the fact that you asked this already...TODAY!
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11162.msg165338#msg165338
I don't mean to come off as rude but please be considerate.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 08, 2012, 10:28:25 PM
I want to use AP legitimately to pay my babysitter, $240 every Thursday. Should I not use my SPG for this? I feel like if its the same amount on a recurring basis it should stand up to any questioning.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on January 09, 2012, 06:55:32 AM
Sounds right to me.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gozalim on January 09, 2012, 12:27:01 PM
I want to use AP legitimately to pay my babysitter, $240 every Thursday. Should I not use my SPG for this? I feel like if its the same amount on a recurring basis it should stand up to any questioning.
just make sure she's logging in from her own computer (IP)  to receive the payments.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on January 09, 2012, 12:30:13 PM
The fact you're paying your babysitter will not save you from FR.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: dealvr on January 09, 2012, 12:34:46 PM
The fact you're paying your babysitter will not save you from FR.
+1
It may save you from amazon shutting you down though.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 09, 2012, 12:49:24 PM
The fact you're paying your babysitter will not save you from FR.
Actual FR's have been reported from AP usage? I thought it was just the so-called mini-FRs, which I would be able to answer legitimately.
+1
It may save you from amazon shutting you down though.
I am already currently using my SP to send $1K a month from my AP account to my wife's (multiple transactions, never the same IP). Can I use the same SP and just send from my wife's AP account to the babysitter? Or does Amazon pick up on the actual credit card usage and cap it at $1K.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on January 09, 2012, 02:22:43 PM
Actual FR's have been reported from AP usage? I thought it was just the so-called mini-FRs, which I would be able to answer legitimately.

elikay makes a good point.

Even though I'm not sure if actual FRs have been triggered by the use of AP, mini-FRs definitely have (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3524.msg124830;topicseen#msg124830).

Bottom line is AmEx does not seem to like AP activity, so why risk it? Be safer and use a non-AmEx.

I am already currently using my SP to send $1K a month from my AP account to my wife's (multiple transactions, never the same IP). Can I use the same SP and just send from my wife's AP account to the babysitter? Or does Amazon pick up on the actual credit card usage and cap it at $1K.

IME it's per 1k per AP account, not per credit card.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 09, 2012, 04:45:15 PM
IME it's per 1k per AP account, not per credit card.
Has anyone used a card to send money with while also receiving money sent with that card?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on January 09, 2012, 11:30:27 PM
Can I use the same SP and just send from my wife's AP account to the babysitter? Or does Amazon pick up on the actual credit card usage and cap it at $1K.

In November, I had to put s/t like 3k on my SPG to reach threshold, and did it all w/ no issues using AP. (Besides exceeding my 2k limit)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on January 09, 2012, 11:56:31 PM
Has anyone used a card to send money with while also receiving money sent with that card?
yes, many times, didn't have any problems.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 10, 2012, 10:27:18 PM
Has anyone used a card to send money with while also receiving money sent with that card?
Amex gives au a different number on cc so it's safer although we don't like to use Amex on amazon.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 10, 2012, 10:30:32 PM
Has anyone used a card to send money with while also receiving money sent with that card?

??? How do u receive money to your cc? Or am I misunderstanding the question?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 10, 2012, 10:54:52 PM
??? How do u receive money to your cc? Or am I misunderstanding the question?
Has anyone used a card to send money with while also receiving money sent with that card?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 10, 2012, 11:21:11 PM
??? How do u receive money to your cc? Or am I misunderstanding the question?
Has anyone used a card to send money with while also receiving money sent with that card?

That's wat I meant
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on January 10, 2012, 11:28:11 PM
That's wat I meant

hes asking if anyone has a cc that is associated with two different accounts and has sent money using that cc from one account while also receiving money to that same (AP) account from that cc (sent from the other account.
I'm sure there is a better way of explaining that
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 10, 2012, 11:34:57 PM
hes asking if anyone has a cc that is associated with two different accounts and has sent money using that cc from one account while also receiving money to that same (AP) account from that cc (sent from the other account.
I'm sure there is a better way of explaining that

Thanx for clarifying.  I was seriously reading his post over and over again and had no idea wat he was trying to ask.

@I'm sure I'm not the only one that couldn't figure out your shorthand language.  If you post more elaborately it may help more people understand you. When that happens, you will probably get more answers from people.      Nothing personal - just giving a quick tip.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on January 10, 2012, 11:39:49 PM
Thanx for clarifying.  I was seriously reading his post over and over again and had no idea wat he was trying to ask.

+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: zalmanb on January 10, 2012, 11:57:33 PM
I have done so many time over the past 4 months sending over 15k with no issues, but after reading a few posts here i dont plan on doing so again. I dont want AMEX to suspen my card...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 11, 2012, 10:10:27 AM
@I'm sure I'm not the only one that couldn't figure out your shorthand language.  If you post more elaborately it may help more people understand you. When that happens, you will probably get more answers from people.      Nothing personal - just giving a quick tip.

No offense taken. Will drop the shorthand. Post more words. Elaborate more. That work? Thanks.  :P
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lcyitz on January 11, 2012, 10:59:06 AM
with Ap would friend to friend work on the same ip and home address? or that's to suspicious
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on January 11, 2012, 11:29:23 AM
with Ap would friend to friend work on the same ip and home address? or that's to suspicious

I don't know of any hard fast rules. but I can tell you that I know people doing that for months already with no problem
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on January 11, 2012, 04:01:26 PM
I have done so many time over the past 4 months sending over 15k with no issues, but after reading a few posts here i dont plan on doing so again. I dont want AMEX to suspen my card...
i never said the above
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lcyitz on January 12, 2012, 07:54:44 AM
looks like the best thing to do is send 1 way ap and back with venmo.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aryeh1 on January 12, 2012, 12:03:55 PM
looks like the best thing to do is send 1 way ap and back with venmo.
How does venmo work? is there a fee?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 12, 2012, 01:49:13 PM
How does venmo work? is there a fee?
There is a whole thread on venmo here. Read it and you'll be ready to go.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: naomibatac on January 13, 2012, 05:40:33 AM
This is brilliant idea especially for people who frequently use credit card on their purchases. It is great to earn something out of what you are paying for.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: WhyEye on January 13, 2012, 11:06:35 AM
looks like the best thing to do is send 1 way ap and back with venmo.

Don't you just pull out of AP into your checking account?  Where are you sending back to?  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: coregis on January 13, 2012, 03:07:17 PM
Don't you just pull out of AP into your checking account?  Where are you sending back to?  Am I missing something?
Yes, you pull the money from AP to your checking and use it to pay the credit card. However, while you're there you might as well send money from your card back to Venmo...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: satturn on January 15, 2012, 03:54:01 AM
You are asking on how to turn your CL into cash without the CA fees. It is the same as asking ďHow do I turn my CL into miles, points or cash back with little or no fees?Ē Every member wants the answer to this question. For small amounts ways have already been listed. To find ways to do this on a large scale is what everyone wants to know. If someone was to post this on a public forum it would get killed (kill the Golden Goose) in a matter of days. Certain ways are talked about on private forums but only after trust has been built between members that it will not be repeated. IMHO there are members here that belong to private forums and know exactly what I am talking about.

Dan..

Is this true?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lcyitz on January 15, 2012, 11:10:45 AM
so my friend just got a 1.00 charge @ ap does that make sence? he is doing me a favor and getting >:(

tia!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on January 15, 2012, 11:11:46 AM
so my friend just got a 1.00 charge @ ap does that make sence? he is doing me a favor and getting >:(

tia!
Charge for what?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: skyguy918 on January 15, 2012, 11:18:24 AM
so my friend just got a 1.00 charge @ ap does that make sence? he is doing me a favor and getting >:(

tia!

It's probably not a real charge, just an authorization hold. If it shows up in pending transactions then it's probably nothing to worry about, it'll never go on his bill.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lcyitz on January 15, 2012, 11:59:53 AM
o.k thanks i think its pending
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 15, 2012, 01:02:49 PM
Dan..

Is this true?
^^^
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Armadillo on January 17, 2012, 09:30:14 PM
I just sent money from one account to two other accounts, logged in on the same computer. The first went through right away and I transfered the money right out. The second says pending and "We are unable to complete your transaction until further review. It can take up to 24 hours to complete this transaction. We apologize for any inconvenience this delay may cause." Has anyone got this and should I be concerned?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lcyitz on January 17, 2012, 10:11:27 PM
I got that and it went thru, Normal afaik
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on January 17, 2012, 10:12:27 PM
I've gotten similar. Transferred money to an account. Then withdrew it to checking account. But the withdrawal never took place, and instead they closed both payment accounts.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on January 17, 2012, 10:21:00 PM
I've gotten similar. Transferred money to an account. Then withdrew it to checking account. But the withdrawal never took place, and instead they closed both payment accounts.

You got a refund or lost the funds? Presumably the former...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on January 17, 2012, 10:34:31 PM
Presumably the former...
yes, thankfully!! If only AP takes over PayPal in a good way, we'll be in good shape.

EDIT: They never charged the card AFAIK.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on January 17, 2012, 10:37:01 PM
If only AP takes over PayPal in a good way, we'll be in good shape.

Unlikely (unless they buy eBay), Paypal is a cash cow for eBay, and is probably what has kept eBay afloat all these years.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2012, 10:58:19 PM
I got that and it went thru, Normal afaik
sometimes it says that and about twenty secs later it clears. otherwise wait a few hours and do not be concerned.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on January 19, 2012, 12:50:05 AM
Unlikely (unless they buy eBay), Paypal is a cash cow for eBay, and is probably what has kept eBay afloat all these years.

Obligatory ITYS:

Quote
PayPal revenue for the quarter increased 28% year over year driven primarily by continued merchant and consumer adoption as well as increased penetration on eBay. In the fourth quarter, revenue from PayPalís international markets exceeded revenue from the U.S. for the first time. PayPalís net total payment volume (TPV) grew 24% to $33.4 billion in the fourth quarter of 2011. PayPal brought in $1.2 billion for the quarter, up 29 percent.

(source (http://techcrunch.com/2012/01/18/ebay-beats-the-street-q4-revenue-up-35-percent-to-3-4b-net-income-up-15-percent-to-789m/))
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Armadillo on January 19, 2012, 03:23:42 PM
Thanks everybody. It cleared a few hours later.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 22, 2012, 12:08:33 AM
I used AP recently for the first time.  When I withdraw the money it asks me for a license number.
Anybody know the purpose of that? Do they match it against the bank account?
Also, if I use the same license number with two different AP accounts,  will that trigger anything?
Thanx
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on January 22, 2012, 12:19:30 AM
I used AP recently for the first time.  When I withdraw the money it asks me for a license number.
Anybody know the purpose of that? Do they match it against the bank account?
Also, if I use the same license number with two different AP accounts,  will that trigger anything?
Thanx

I made mine up (just make sure the format is correct) and haven't had any issues
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 22, 2012, 12:39:22 AM
I made mine up (just make sure the format is correct) and haven't had any issues

Thanx. Will try that. 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: newtothegame on January 24, 2012, 12:10:32 PM
if you continue reading about amazon tax disclosure

Will you file Form 1099-K for my seller account if I only exceed one of the two thresholds?
No. Unless you exceed both thresholds ($20,000 in gross sales and 200 transactions) we will not file Form 1099-K for you.
If I have multiple

so it seems as long as you don't exceed 200 transaction you should be fine!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on January 24, 2012, 12:28:26 PM
if you continue reading about amazon tax disclosure

Will you file Form 1099-K for my seller account if I only exceed one of the two thresholds?
No. Unless you exceed both thresholds ($20,000 in gross sales and 200 transactions) we will not file Form 1099-K for you.
If I have multiple

so it seems as long as you don't exceed 200 transaction you should be fine!

that has been mentioned already but I guess doesn't hurt to make sure everyone realized
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 26, 2012, 12:41:09 AM
Having trouble recieving a payment. I got about 975 this month to my acct and when I tried getting another 500 sent to same acct got error message that I cannot receive the funds. My account is in good standing and in the past I got over 1k into my acct with cc so not sure what the issue is.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 26, 2012, 12:58:44 AM
Having trouble recieving a payment. I got about 975 this month to my acct and when I tried getting another 500 sent to same acct got error message that I cannot receive the funds. My account is in good standing and in the past I got over 1k into my acct with cc so not sure what the issue is.

You sure you got more than $1k in the same calendar month?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on January 26, 2012, 01:16:09 AM
I'd like to sign up for another account to speed up meeting my spending req, and I'd like to hear from ppl how many AP accounts they have opened, and still remain open w/ no problems. Currently, I have mine, my wife's, and my mothers at the same address, linked to 3 diff bank accounts. (My US mailing address is my parents house)

And b/f ya'll start yelling at me to look back in the thread, I want to hear what ppl's current situation is. Not what is was back in November.

Thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 26, 2012, 01:17:40 AM
You sure you got more than $1k in the same calendar month?
Yes positive! I do 1k every single month for past four months. Last month I got an extra 500 bringing it to 1500 sent to me and was all cc.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: stever on January 26, 2012, 01:29:44 PM
my spending limit per month on ap is $500. does anybody know how i can get it up to 1k
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on January 26, 2012, 01:33:06 PM
my spending limit per month on ap is $500. does anybody know how i can get it up to 1k

add a bank account
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: stever on January 26, 2012, 01:36:50 PM
add a bank account
i have 1, i should add another?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on January 26, 2012, 01:40:16 PM
i have 1, i should add another?

nope. If you have a bank account and a cc on the account then Im not sure why you still only have a $500 limit
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: stever on January 26, 2012, 01:53:01 PM
nope. If you have a bank account and a cc on the account then Im not sure why you still only have a $500 limit
i just realized that there was no bank account connected. added it now im at 1k thanks!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: stever on January 31, 2012, 12:54:55 PM
if i want to use 2 diff accounts but the same routing #'s would that work?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Mocha on January 31, 2012, 12:55:45 PM
if i want to use 2 diff accounts but the same routing #'s would that work?
You mean bank account number? Thousands of people can have the same routing number
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: stever on January 31, 2012, 12:57:03 PM
You mean bank account number? Thousands of people can have the same routing number
oh  :-[
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on February 01, 2012, 12:29:32 AM
for example bank of america has one routing number for each state. Routing numbers are simply bank id numbers
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on February 01, 2012, 01:57:37 AM
It is 20k and 200 transactions. If you do small amounts with PP you can last a long time. Try sending 9.9k at a time and you will get shut down real quick. They did have a 10k per send limit but I am not sure what it is now.

How is it possible to do more than 20k a year,  isn't the limit  1k per month?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on February 01, 2012, 02:01:49 AM
How is it possible to do more than 20k a year,  isn't the limit  1k per month?
That limit is for using CC's.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on February 01, 2012, 02:05:20 AM
That limit is for using CC's.

My bad. Thanx
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on February 01, 2012, 01:23:00 PM
CMIIW But I think it's an AP limit
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on February 01, 2012, 01:30:06 PM
CMIIW But I think it's an AP limit

AP has a CC limit of $1,000 a month.

You can do more than $1,000 using a bank account instead.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: stever on February 01, 2012, 03:24:38 PM
so how many ap accounts can 1 person have?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on February 01, 2012, 03:27:07 PM
My AP withdrawals have always shown up in my bank as "Amazon Payments DES:Deposit". I withdrew money a few days ago and for the 1st time it appeared as "ACH CREDIT Amazon Payments Deposit". Something to keep in mind for those needing to do direct deposit.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: trying123 on February 01, 2012, 05:56:09 PM
I have been offsetting my monthly charge on my citi bank checking account for the last few months by sending in my AP charges over 500 $ one 500 $ deposit offsets the 8$ charge
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mordy44 on February 05, 2012, 12:30:25 AM
Has anyone tried to accumulate Chase Freedom points using AP? Chase offers 5% for all purchases on Amazon during this quarter, and thought this may be a great way to accumulate the extra points.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on February 05, 2012, 12:34:59 AM
Has anyone tried to accumulate Chase Freedom points using AP? Chase offers 5% for all purchases on Amazon during this quarter, and thought this may be a great way to accumulate the extra points.

As has been stated a bunch of times, ain't gonna work :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: cozmohoot on February 08, 2012, 07:11:01 PM
with Ap would friend to friend work on the same ip and home address? or that's to suspicious

Have you tested this? I want to send to my coworker but I will probably have to show him how to send back...all from the same IP
Tia
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on February 08, 2012, 10:17:24 PM
Have you tested this? I want to send to my coworker but I will probably have to show him how to send back...all from the same IP
Tia
It certainly works. I do it here and there.

Can't te;; you how safe that is or if AP will shut down. If it's really two diff people with diff SSN's, you should be OK.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Devorah on February 09, 2012, 12:28:42 AM

Can't te;; you how safe that is or if AP will shut down. If it's really two diff people with diff SSN's, you should be OK.

Good luck with that.  Once they shut u down there is no one to talk to.  They just keep sending u the same email...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on February 09, 2012, 03:17:58 PM
Good luck with that.  Once they shut u down there is no one to talk to.  They just keep sending u the same email...
Assuming they have your real SSN. They don't have mine ;). But yes, that's a true concern.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on February 09, 2012, 03:22:06 PM
If you are using GCís a little trick is to put in the wrong date when adding the card. Go back and change it to the correct date and you can drain the full amount of the card. No need to worry about the 1.00 authorization. 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: cozmohoot on February 09, 2012, 03:40:51 PM
i know it may have been discussed but my head is spinning from reading lots of pages...i paid my friend and he has the balance in his acct, should he trnsfr to his bank and give me cash or can he just wait a few days and send the funds back to me?
thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on February 09, 2012, 03:47:46 PM
i know it may have been discussed but my head is spinning from reading lots of pages...i paid my friend and he has the balance in his acct, should he trnsfr to his bank and give me cash or can he just wait a few days and send the funds back to me?
thanks
That is the big problem with mega threads!

Either way will work but the safe play would be for him to transfer it to his account and give you the cash.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on February 09, 2012, 11:08:40 PM
If you are using GCís a little trick is to put in the wrong date when adding the card. Go back and change it to the correct date and you can drain the full amount of the card. No need to worry about the 1.00 authorization.
not sure why that works but thank you for the great tip. It is sooo annoying having one dollar left on a gift card!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on February 09, 2012, 11:30:24 PM
not sure why that works
Because then they only do an algorithm verification and do not have a hold going through.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on February 10, 2012, 01:06:21 AM
not sure why that works but thank you for the great tip. It is sooo annoying having one dollar left on a gift card!
Here is something else to make things easier. If you donít have one of these you are not buying enough GCís.  :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Credit-Card-Reader-Mini-3-Hi-Co-Magnetic-mag-swiper-/300573715418?pt=BI_Credit_Card_Terminals&hash=item45fb96ebda
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on February 10, 2012, 01:14:07 AM
Here is something else to make things easier. If you donít have one of these you are not buying enough GCís.  :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Credit-Card-Reader-Mini-3-Hi-Co-Magnetic-mag-swiper-/300573715418?pt=BI_Credit_Card_Terminals&hash=item45fb96ebda

Touche :D
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on February 10, 2012, 01:23:21 AM
Touche :D
If you follow the progression (CC reader) you might guess what would be the next thing I would suggest having. I will not post it because it comes to close to the line that I will not cross.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on February 10, 2012, 01:29:50 AM
If you follow the progression (CC reader) you might guess what would be the next thing I would suggest having. I will not post it because it comes to close to the line that I will not cross.

Card encoder/writer?

Parenthetically, is the data on CC magnetic strips encrypted?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on February 10, 2012, 01:34:22 AM
Card encoder/writer?

Parenthetically, is the data on CC magnetic strips encrypted?
Yes - no.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on February 10, 2012, 01:35:33 AM
Yes - no.

Fascinating. I gotta look into this further ;)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on February 10, 2012, 09:22:30 AM
Here is something else to make things easier. If you donít have one of these you are not buying enough GCís.  :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Credit-Card-Reader-Mini-3-Hi-Co-Magnetic-mag-swiper-/300573715418?pt=BI_Credit_Card_Terminals&hash=item45fb96ebda
this is what separates the casual user from the pros I guess!!!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on February 10, 2012, 10:13:29 AM
this is what separates the casual user from the pros I guess!!!
It was a must for the Mint deal. Try entering 50 GC's every few days. First you had to register them.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gozalim on February 12, 2012, 06:17:10 PM
It was a must for the Mint deal. Try entering 50 GC's every few days. First you had to register them.
spoon: so this converts the card number/cvc/exp numbers to text? (for the mint etc.)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on February 12, 2012, 07:38:13 PM
spoon: so this converts the card number/cvc/exp numbers to text? (for the mint etc.)
CC #, exp and name. I don't believe the CVC is stored on the strip.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gozalim on February 12, 2012, 08:13:34 PM
CC #, exp and name. I don't believe the CVC is stored on the strip.
true, that would be counterproductive...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on February 15, 2012, 09:33:34 AM
Do any of the free cc processors allow you to withdraw money via check rather than direct deposit into checking account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on February 15, 2012, 09:39:35 AM
Do any of the free cc processors allow you to withdraw money via check rather than direct deposit into checking account?
I never looked into that. Want to give us a broad idea what you are trying to accomplish?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on February 15, 2012, 10:03:59 AM
I never looked into that. Want to give us a broad idea what you are trying to accomplish?

not get kicked off some gov't programs  ;D
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on February 15, 2012, 10:14:13 AM
Once it is in your account you can transfer it to my account (just an example). I will withdraw it and write you or anyone a check. With AP this does not count towards the 1k/month CC limit.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on February 15, 2012, 01:15:11 PM
Once it is in your account you can transfer it to my account (just an example). I will withdraw it and write you or anyone a check. With AP this does not count towards the 1k/month CC limit.

I appreciate the offer. If I end up doing this will prob be easier just to do with someone by me. I had actually thought of this but was curious if there was something more direct
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on February 15, 2012, 04:38:57 PM
not get kicked off some gov't programs  ;D
what programs do you have? AFAIK you wont have any problems with Food Stamps, WIC and Medicaid since they don't ask for your bank statments and they allow you to keep in your account whatever amount you want as long its in accordance with your income, so, lets say you can save a few hundred bucks each month of $ you earned legally and it piles up to even $50K they have no problems with it at all.
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on February 15, 2012, 04:49:26 PM
what programs do you have? AFAIK you wont have any problems with Food Stamps, WIC and Medicaid since they don't ask for your bank statments and they allow you to keep in your account whatever amount you want as long its in accordance with your income, so, lets say you can save a few hundred bucks each month of $ you earned legally and it piles up to even $50K they have no problems with it at all.

But they do ask for your bank statements and true savings doesn't matter but there would be a lot of activity going in and out
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on February 15, 2012, 04:50:19 PM
Bubbles and meshugener,  may I suggest that you guys  please start a new thread discussing the topic of "too much money in your account for the government".
Thanx
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on February 15, 2012, 04:55:12 PM
Bubbles and meshugener,  may I suggest that you guys  please start a new thread discussing the topic of "too much money in your account for the government".
Thanx
ask the mod to do it. Thanx
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on February 15, 2012, 04:56:10 PM
But they do ask for your bank statements and true savings doesn't matter but there would be a lot of activity going in and out
Better to be on the safe side. AP looks like it will not work for you.

Withdraw Funds
1.Log in to your Amazon Payments account.
2.Click Withdraw Funds.
3.Select either a bank account or the Amazon.com Gift Card option.
4.Enter the amount to transfer to your bank account or Gift Card.
5.Click Continue.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on February 15, 2012, 05:00:28 PM
But they do ask for your bank statements and true savings doesn't matter but there would be a lot of activity going in and out
1. I guess different regions have different regulations. 2. If you can explain all your activities as using AP or venmo to charge CC and then pay rye bal (the truth) what do you worry? The gov. won't tell Amazon or venmo (if they don't know yet...).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on February 15, 2012, 05:03:11 PM
ask the mod to do it. Thanx
??? Do you not know how to start a new thread?

(Mods are busy enough on this forum  ;) )
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on February 15, 2012, 07:24:23 PM
Bubbles and meshugener,  may I suggest that you guys  please start a new thread discussing the topic of "too much money in your account for the government".
Thanx

I have no desire to start a thread or talk about that. I just wanted to know if there was a different way to cash out.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on February 16, 2012, 09:45:26 AM
Today I wake up and see I have an email from "Matt Sullivan - Business Development, Amazon Payments". Got me really nervous. But all it was was the following. I guess they're trying to expand the AP product (I have a couple eCommerce sites.):

Hello Shmelly,
Not sure if you can help me, but thought you could possibly point me in the right direction.
Would you happen to know who within your organization would be responsible for selecting payment methods on your website?
Amazon Payments allows over 160 million Amazon account holders to quickly and easily access their stored shipping and payment information without leaving your site.
In addition, we provide 100% fraud protection while increasing average order size.
Please let me know if you can assist in coordinating a call to discuss in more detail.
In the meantime, you can learn more about Amazon Payments here:
 
Best,
Matt Sullivan
Amazon Payments
xxxxxx@amazon.com
xxx-xxx-xxxx
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on February 19, 2012, 04:41:00 PM
Until the last couple of months, I was able to use cc's in my name on my wife's account. However, the last few months, this has been impossible. It seems that if the name on the cc doesn't match the name on the AP account, than it won't work.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on February 19, 2012, 05:29:04 PM
Make another AP account in your name.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on February 19, 2012, 10:39:04 PM
Make another AP account in your name.

Same bank account? I haven't seen enough info to see if this is enough for them to close you down/
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on February 19, 2012, 11:47:26 PM
Until the last couple of months, I was able to use cc's in my name on my wife's account. However, the last few months, this has been impossible. It seems that if the name on the cc doesn't match the name on the AP account, than it won't work.

Any thoughts?
add her as a AU for the CC
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on February 19, 2012, 11:52:25 PM
I opened up a new AP account today and received this email:

Hello xxxxx,

Thank you for creating an Amazon Payments account. In order to complete registration, we require you to provide us your tax identification number (TIN). For customers with Amazon Payments personal accounts, your TIN is your Social Security Number. You can provide your Social Security Number by following these steps:
....
Your ability to receive payments in your account will be restricted until you provide your Tax Identification Number.
Best regards,
Amazon Payments

Are they keeping their word not to let me receive payments on my account unless i supply my SSN. With my existing account I havent had any problems.

Is this restriction actually in place for new accounts or its all a bluff?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on February 20, 2012, 01:27:52 AM
I opened up a new AP account today and received this email:

Hello xxxxx,

Thank you for creating an Amazon Payments account. In order to complete registration, we require you to provide us your tax identification number (TIN). For customers with Amazon Payments personal accounts, your TIN is your Social Security Number. You can provide your Social Security Number by following these steps:
....
Your ability to receive payments in your account will be restricted until you provide your Tax Identification Number.
Best regards,
Amazon Payments

Are they keeping their word not to let me receive payments on my account unless i supply my SSN. With my existing account I havent had any problems.

Is this restriction actually in place for new accounts or its all a bluff?

try it, let us know
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: stever on February 20, 2012, 01:37:07 AM
did anyone have any problems using a non amex card (sp, ink?)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on February 20, 2012, 02:00:38 AM
did anyone have any problems using a non amex card (sp, ink?)

Are you looking for someone with recent experience,  or are you asking in general?

I used my IB and had no problems bh.  Last time I used AP was 3 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on February 20, 2012, 07:10:42 AM
The SS# requirement is no bluff
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on February 20, 2012, 08:36:41 AM
recently i'v been putting in fake ss and been using he accts as disposables just like in the past (mailinator address and all that) so i'd say it definitely is a bluff
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: TC610 on February 20, 2012, 08:59:24 AM
Are they keeping their word not to let me receive payments on my account unless i supply my SSN. With my existing account I havent had any problems.
Is this restriction actually in place for new accounts or its all a bluff?

IME if you don't supply some information, your AP account functionality becomes extremely limited (you won't be able to send/receive payments with that account).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Side incomer on February 20, 2012, 09:04:05 AM
IME if you don't supply some information, your AP account functionality becomes extremely limited (you won't be able to send/receive payments with that account).
But he supplies all info. they are just false info.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on February 20, 2012, 09:56:45 AM
IME if you don't supply some information, your AP account functionality becomes extremely limited (you won't be able to send/receive payments with that account).
In My Estimation or In My Experience? :)

recently i'v been putting in fake ss and been using he accts as disposables just like in the past (mailinator address and all that) so i'd say it definitely is a bluff
How long are you able to use each account for before they shut it down?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on February 20, 2012, 10:23:21 AM
recently i'v been putting in fake ss and been using he accts as disposables just like in the past (mailinator address and all that) so i'd say it definitely is a bluff
you haven't been using fake bank accounts to withdraw the money to? :D

did anyone have any problems using a non amex card (sp, ink?)
I haven't had any issues

try it, let us know
Will do
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: stever on February 20, 2012, 12:28:12 PM
Are you looking for someone with recent experience,  or are you asking in general?

I used my IB and had no problems bh.  Last time I used AP was 3 weeks ago.
in general for someone that uses it on a regular basis
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on February 20, 2012, 12:31:26 PM
Until the last couple of months, I was able to use cc's in my name on my wife's account. However, the last few months, this has been impossible. It seems that if the name on the cc doesn't match the name on the AP account, than it won't work.

Any thoughts?

I bet if you told them the name on the CC is same as the name on the AP account it would work, I don't think they check it.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on February 20, 2012, 12:59:27 PM
I bet if you told them the name on the CC is same as the name on the AP account it would work, I don't think they check it.
+1 I've tried it
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on February 20, 2012, 01:44:32 PM
 :(
The SS# requirement is no bluff
I beg to differ both my wife and I have not given our ss number and have done payments in January and feb.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on February 20, 2012, 01:45:51 PM
:(I beg to differ both my wife and I have not given our ss number and have done payments in January and feb.

+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on February 20, 2012, 01:55:40 PM
:(I beg to differ both my wife and I have not given our ss number and have done payments in January and feb.
+1
Is this a newish account or opened before the SSN requirement?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on February 20, 2012, 01:56:41 PM
Is this a newish account or opened before the SSN requirement?

mine were opened before you needed to give your social but they still ask for it every time i login
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aryeh1 on February 20, 2012, 01:58:01 PM
Why is everyone wary of giving their social ?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on February 20, 2012, 01:58:19 PM
Got it. I wasnt able to do payments on a mobile browser without ss# but on PC I was able. Im not sure, but maybe heres the diff
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on February 20, 2012, 02:00:53 PM
mine were opened before you needed to give your social but they still ask for it every time i login
same here, I have "legacy" accounts that I can use fully w/o giving my SSN, however I'm wondering if you open a new account now would that still apply.
Got it. I wasnt able to do payments on a mobile browser without ss# but on PC I was able.
New account?
Why is everyone wary of giving their social ?
easier for them to track how many accounts you have (it's also easier for them to ban you for good)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on February 20, 2012, 02:12:07 PM
Whadaya consider new? Opened in 2012
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on February 20, 2012, 02:17:42 PM
Whadaya consider new? Opened in 2012
sounds promising.
will try myself and report back
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on February 20, 2012, 02:34:29 PM
mine were opened before you needed to give your social but they still ask for it every time i login
And same here.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on February 20, 2012, 03:30:19 PM
recently i'v been putting in fake ss and been using he accts as disposables just like in the past (mailinator address and all that) so i'd say it definitely is a bluff
How long are you able to use each account for before they shut it down?
once or twice then rinse and repeat or in this sit. it's just repeating
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gozalim on February 20, 2012, 03:35:22 PM
recently i'v been putting in fake ss and been using he accts as disposables just like in the past (mailinator address and all that) so i'd say it definitely is a bluff
where do you withdraw to?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on February 20, 2012, 03:56:39 PM
bank accounts
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gozalim on February 20, 2012, 03:57:13 PM
bank accounts
and they don't track those?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on February 20, 2012, 11:55:14 PM
Idea:

For those of us who use separate IP's for each account it can be a hassle. So here's an idea.

1) Use a friends (neighbor, library etc.) computer to set up the sending account (of course we only send in one direction) and set up the mobile payment option with a GV#

2)Use you computer to set up the receiving account

3) Use GV from your computer to send $ to your receiving account and withdraw.

rinse & repeat all while using the same computer
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on February 20, 2012, 11:57:39 PM
not sure what all this speculation is based on as i've been using disposable accts for quite a while now.
does anyone have proof that they've been tracking ip address's
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on February 21, 2012, 12:11:30 AM
not sure what all this speculation is based on as i've been using disposable accts for quite a while now.
does anyone have proof that they've been tracking ip address's
do you use the same bank account for numerous accounts?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on February 21, 2012, 01:03:01 AM
yes
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on February 21, 2012, 07:04:35 AM
@yitzf I knew I can send $ via sms, but how do u withdraw by mobile?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on February 21, 2012, 10:06:43 AM
@yitzf I knew I can send $ via sms, but how do u withdraw by mobile?

Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. send $ to your receiving account using computer #2 (yours) with GV, then use your receiving AP account which is on the same computer to withdraw
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: spetropo on February 25, 2012, 01:10:22 PM
Just a quick question, just got my amex spg and set it up on Amazon Payments. Just want to ask if amazon payments work towards the amex spg spending requirements.
Thanks
S
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on February 25, 2012, 01:20:15 PM
Just a quick question, just got my amex spg and set it up on Amazon Payments. Just want to ask if amazon payments work towards the amex spg spending requirements.
Thanks
S

Yes
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: stever on February 25, 2012, 10:54:22 PM
Just a quick question, just got my amex spg and set it up on Amazon Payments. Just want to ask if amazon payments work towards the amex spg spending requirements.
Thanks
S
careful with amex and ap
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on February 25, 2012, 11:06:46 PM
careful with amex and ap

Indeed (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3524.msg124830;topicseen#msg124830).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on February 26, 2012, 12:29:32 AM
Not to cause a stir, but I've read on FT and other sites as well that using AMEX to fund the AP is almost a sure-fire way to get an FR.
How much were you doing on AP with Amex when you got the call (# of transactions and total $ amount).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on February 26, 2012, 12:59:19 AM
My Amazon payments account is showing "Please verify your account information as soon as possible to maintain your account privileges."
They want me to verify SSN. I didn't do it and submitted another payment and it went through. This happen to anyone else? What kind of timeline do I have before they shut it down?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on February 26, 2012, 01:07:36 AM
How much were you doing on AP with Amex when you got the call (# of transactions and total $ amount).

Don't recall.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on February 26, 2012, 02:11:50 AM
My Amazon payments account is showing "Please verify your account information as soon as possible to maintain your account privileges."
They want me to verify SSN. I didn't do it and submitted another payment and it went through. This happen to anyone else? What kind of timeline do I have before they shut it down?

We've all been doing this.
If they want to get serious, they can simply not process payments w/o an attached SSN
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on February 26, 2012, 01:29:40 PM
We've all been doing this.
If they want to get serious, they can simply not process payments w/o an attached SSN

Sounds like a plan to me. When signing the account I already provided my SSN. I don't know what their issue is but I figure if they close me down I know a way of getting second email address :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MnM1130 on February 26, 2012, 01:55:52 PM
they made me verify one of my new accounts- and i did with the wrong social number, and than they said i was verified.. 2 days later they said they need to re-verify my account.. so i put in my real SS number- and it said i wasnt verified.. they are shutting down my account.. huh? weird..
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on February 27, 2012, 12:03:30 AM
I have had 2 AP accounts for a while (ka"h) sending ~1k from A - B one way only

I would like to add some (safe) spice to this, which of the following is the best option;

1) Add another 2 accounts and keep them separate and do A-B and C-D netting 2k using 4 accounts
or
2) Add one more and do a circle A-B and B-C and C-A netting 3k with 3 accounts
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on February 27, 2012, 04:42:12 AM
I have had 2 AP accounts for a while (ka"h) sending ~1k from A - B one way only

I would like to add some (safe) spice to this, which of the following is the best option;

1) Add another 2 accounts and keep them separate and do A-B and C-D netting 2k using 4 accounts
or
2) Add one more and do a circle A-B and B-C and C-A netting 3k with 3 accounts

Go with Option 2, you'll get more out of it, w/ a slightly higher risk IMO.
I was doing that for a while, and now I joined with a friend who has 2 accounts, and we're sending money in a circle btw 5 accounts. (FYI, my 3 accounts are me, the wife, and the mother. I may add another one though)
Title: Amazon Payments Accounts
Post by: sky121 on February 28, 2012, 09:00:58 PM
Is there a way to make an Amazon Payments account for someone without a social Security number?
Title: Re: Amazon Payments Accounts
Post by: Fan of Dan on February 28, 2012, 11:24:59 PM
Is there a way to make an Amazon Payments account for someone without a social Security number?
many people have had no problem not adding a social to their accounts so unless starting an acct is diff you should be fine just do not put in social.
Title: Re: Amazon Payments Accounts
Post by: yitzf on February 29, 2012, 12:44:28 AM
many people have had no problem not adding a social to their accounts so unless starting an acct is diff you should be fine just do not put in social.
oh they are driving me crazy with emails to give them my SSN. (well it's really only 2 per account, but it adds up)

I hope it's not a harbinger of things to come. A quick search through my emails revealed that the first notice was sent on 12/8/11 followed by one on 2/8/11, well I guess we'll have to be alert on the 8's.:D
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on February 29, 2012, 12:47:55 AM
I had two AP accounts. The one which I did not supply a SSN was restricted.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on February 29, 2012, 01:14:50 AM
I had two AP accounts. The one which I did not supply a SSN was restricted.

can you give the same SSN for both, or that's putting your head in the guillotine.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on February 29, 2012, 01:17:17 AM
can you give the same SSN for both, or that's putting your head in the guillotine.
right
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on February 29, 2012, 01:18:46 AM
I had two AP accounts. The one which I did not supply a SSN was restricted.
were you able to reinstate it with a social or it was a duplicate? I am getting worried because for "amazon insurance" I do not want to give my social
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on February 29, 2012, 01:25:54 AM
I had two AP accounts. The one which I did not supply a SSN was restricted.

Did anyone have success giving a fake SSN (for more than a few days)?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on February 29, 2012, 07:58:49 AM
If you dont provide SS you can not make a payment on a mobile browser
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on February 29, 2012, 08:13:56 AM
Did anyone have success giving a fake SSN (for more than a few days)?
yes, just remember what u entered bec. they will ask u to verify the birthday and last 4 digits of ss
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on February 29, 2012, 09:31:37 AM
were you able to reinstate it with a social or it was a duplicate? I am getting worried because for "amazon insurance" I do not want to give my social

Haven't tried to reinstate it by giving 1) my real SSN a second time, or 2) a fake SSN.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on February 29, 2012, 09:34:00 AM
I'm still using my accounts w/ no SSN, but correct me if I'm wrong, the only danger of giving SSN is receiving a 1099 if you receive more than 20k or 200 transactions. Otherwise, it'll just limit having multiple accounts, but you could probably work-around that.

Am I wrong?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on February 29, 2012, 09:37:20 AM
I'm still using my accounts w/ no SSN, but correct me if I'm wrong, the only danger of giving SSN is receiving a 1099 if you receive more than 20k or 200 transactions. Otherwise, it'll just limit having multiple accounts, but you could probably work-around that.

Am I wrong?
It is 20k and 200 not or. Other than that you are spot on.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sky121 on February 29, 2012, 01:10:13 PM
If I send money with AP using a  CC is there a way to fight the charge or would it be fighting against AP and not the merchant?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on February 29, 2012, 01:42:54 PM
It is 20k and 200 not or. Other than that you are spot on.

You're right, I typed in a hurry

So why not open accounts for my youngsters with their SSN if I'll be staying below limits?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on February 29, 2012, 03:16:24 PM
So why not open accounts for my youngsters with their SSN if I'll be staying below limits?
They need to be 18.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: danielsan127 on February 29, 2012, 05:46:27 PM
So here is what I have been able to do:

I have created 3 different accounts and have had 2 other people do the same.

I send A1 to B1, B1 to C1 and then C1 to A1.  So everyone gets to send and receive 1k each.

Repeat and rinse for the other 2 accounts.

Now, I currently only have 2 accounts as one of them got suspended.  I came the deduction that it was suspended/restricted because I sent 1K from two different accounts on the same day.  So a word of caution, is if you have multiple accounts, I would not do them all on the same day.  We have now spaced them out, so that when one cycle finishes (from sending on amazon and to withdrawing the funds and having it hit your bank), that is when we will start another cycle.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on February 29, 2012, 08:35:36 PM
They need to be 18.
do they now? is that officially or practically? ;)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on March 01, 2012, 12:34:25 AM
do they now? is that officially or practically? ;)
I am just stating what is in the T&C's.
Title: Amazon Payments
Post by: Beazer on March 14, 2012, 07:56:58 PM
Does anyone know if you can send money to someone else through Amazon Payments using an Amazon Gift Card to fund the transaction? It seems to be mashma that you can from the My Activity drop down menu on the home screen on Amazon Payments. Obviously this would be good for the Chase 5%...
Title: Amazon Payments
Post by: bubbles on March 14, 2012, 08:02:09 PM
You can't
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: smurf on March 14, 2012, 09:19:41 PM
you're probably confusing this with the option to buy amazon gift cards with you ap balance
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on March 15, 2012, 09:29:25 AM
got an email from amazon today "In April 2012, Amazon will no longer offer the TextPayMe person-to-person (P2P) text payment service."
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on March 15, 2012, 09:41:58 AM
So far it seems to be a individual situation, I didn't receive such an email. Anyone else got that?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on March 15, 2012, 09:43:56 AM
So far it seems to be a individual situation, I didn't receive such an email. Anyone else got that?

I did. you thought they were only shutting down his textpay service???
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on March 15, 2012, 09:55:38 AM
It is 20k and 200 not or. Other than that you are spot on.
Anybody have a answer to the above question
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: TC610 on March 15, 2012, 10:09:16 AM
It is 20k and 200 not or. Other than that you are spot on.
Anybody have a answer to the above question

"The above" is a statement, not a question.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on March 15, 2012, 10:11:39 AM
got an email from amazon today "In April 2012, Amazon will no longer offer the TextPayMe person-to-person (P2P) text payment service."
+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on March 15, 2012, 11:28:37 AM
"The above" is a statement, not a question.
is it $20,000 or 200 sound like a question.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: TC610 on March 15, 2012, 11:36:55 AM
is it $20,000 or 200 sound like a question.
That does, but he said "It is", not "Is it".
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on March 15, 2012, 01:14:51 PM
That does, but he said "It is", not "Is it".
You are right.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: stever on March 15, 2012, 02:14:25 PM
i got it too
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on March 21, 2012, 02:41:35 PM
can i link a bank account to my amazon payments account with a fake drivers liscense #?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on March 21, 2012, 02:46:03 PM
can i link a bank account to my amazon payments account with a fake drivers liscense #?
Yes but happens if your account gets frozen and they want documentation to release the funds?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on March 21, 2012, 02:52:02 PM
It's a real person and I'm using their social, and the bank account is in both our names, but I don't want to ask them for their drivers license #. I guess worst case scenario, I could get the DL# and just tell them I typed in the wrong one by mistake
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on March 21, 2012, 02:53:32 PM
Open an Amazon payments corporate account, and you won't need to provide your drivers license ID.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on March 21, 2012, 02:54:15 PM
It says you need to fax over bank statements proving buisness existance
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on March 21, 2012, 03:44:20 PM
You just have to fax over a bank statement with your name on it. No need for a business existence. But you might still need to get around the SS# requirement.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on March 21, 2012, 07:04:49 PM
Yes but happens if your account gets frozen and they want documentation to release the funds?
Has this happened to anyone you know? I thought once they froze an account they allow you to transfer the funds out to you bank account, just not to/from friends?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: arid on March 22, 2012, 03:38:56 PM
amazon now says "As a result of changes to federal regulations, Amazon Payments requires that you provide your tax identity information. Start now."
does this mean that if i send money to someone and say its for good and services, that they might have to pay taxes on it?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on March 22, 2012, 03:41:24 PM
amazon now says "As a result of changes to federal regulations, Amazon Payments requires that you provide your tax identity information. Start now."
does this mean that if i send money to someone and say its for good and services, that they might have to pay taxes on it?

Amazon is referring to income tax, not sales tax. They won't be adding sales tax for goods/services.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: arid on March 22, 2012, 03:57:58 PM
so that means that if i send my buddy $1000, he has to claim it as income on his taxes?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: broketeacher on March 22, 2012, 06:03:57 PM
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I can't seem to find the answer...

will I get the quarterly 5% chase freedom bonus if I send $1000 through amazon payments (i.e. 5,000 pts).

If not, I'd rather use my chase sapphire card that has yet to reach the $3,000 minimum....

thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: joeb1 on March 22, 2012, 06:57:05 PM
no
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: arid on March 22, 2012, 08:23:20 PM
no
who was the no for?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: joeb1 on March 22, 2012, 08:24:00 PM
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I can't seem to find the answer...

will I get the quarterly 5% chase freedom bonus if I send $1000 through amazon payments (i.e. 5,000 pts).

If not, I'd rather use my chase sapphire card that has yet to reach the $3,000 minimum....

thanks

no
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: broketeacher on March 22, 2012, 08:45:33 PM
oh well - wishful thinking!

thanks!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: arid on March 26, 2012, 03:21:06 PM
what about my tax question?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MarkS on March 26, 2012, 04:38:47 PM
If you give your friend a 1000 dollar gift he does not have to pay taxes on that
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: arid on March 26, 2012, 04:54:32 PM
If you give your friend a 1000 dollar gift he does not have to pay taxes on that

true but officially its for goods/services....... he doesnt have to pay tax on that?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gozalim on March 26, 2012, 05:52:24 PM
careful with amex and ap
how about citi/bofa amex? those should be safe,no?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on March 26, 2012, 07:18:11 PM
true but officially its for goods/services....... he doesnt have to pay tax on that?
Thats a good reason not to give it for goods/service.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: arid on March 26, 2012, 08:16:58 PM
Thats a good reason not to give it for goods/service.

the other option is cash advance which comes with fees, charges and smaller max's  :(
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on March 26, 2012, 08:19:29 PM
the other option is cash advance which comes with fees, charges and smaller max's  :(
No CA fees with GC's.  ;)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: arid on March 26, 2012, 11:39:19 PM
No CA fees with GC's.  ;)
who said anything about gc's. i owe him 1k. im not paying him with gc's. I wanna put it on the card through amazon. the 2 options are goods/services or CA. CA has fees and i wanna know if he'll be taxed if i mark it goods and services.
can anyone help!?!?!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: steeeveknowsbest on March 27, 2012, 01:25:25 AM
i think the answer is that if he reports it as income he will be taxed, otherwise unless he has alot of interactions on his amazon account

(200+ in a year IIRC) it won't be automatically reported and he therefore will not be taxed (I.E. "off the books")
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: Jkhein on March 27, 2012, 02:26:43 PM
Trying to sign up for an account but keep getting this message all the time, We're Sorry

An error occurred when we tried to process your request.
Rest assured, we're working to resolve the problem as soon as possible.
Please try your operation later. We apologize for the inconvenience.

The accounts that i have work fine but having a problem opening a new one, with different details.
Amazon said they will report the prob to tech dept.
anyone had the same problem?
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: HelpMe on March 28, 2012, 08:56:22 AM
AP has been deleting new accounts in the last week without notice. If you create an account without all the correct (real) info I would wait a few days before sending any payments.
Title: Re: Amazon Payments
Post by: meshugener on March 28, 2012, 09:09:59 AM
There's another AP thread, why 2?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: steeeveknowsbest on March 28, 2012, 01:11:13 PM
where?  :o
i'm fairly certain this is the first one
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on March 28, 2012, 01:12:33 PM
where?  :o
i'm fairly certain this is the first one
Notice the different titles on the posts?  That's a good indicator there's been a thread merge.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on March 28, 2012, 01:46:15 PM
AP has been deleting new accounts in the last week without notice. If you create an account without all the correct (real) info I would wait a few days before sending any payments.
If you have money in the account, would they delete it or just restrict payments to/from friends?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on March 28, 2012, 01:52:12 PM
If you have money in the account, would they delete it or just restrict payments to/from friends?
The accounts are completly gone.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on March 28, 2012, 03:16:09 PM
The accounts are completly gone.
So what would happen to money that is lying within them? Refunded to original credit card?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on March 28, 2012, 03:17:05 PM
So what would happen to money that is lying within them? Refunded to original credit card?
Not sure at this point but that would be the logical thing to happen.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: steeeveknowsbest on March 28, 2012, 08:27:21 PM
Notice the different titles on the posts?  That's a good indicator there's been a thread merge.

thanks i missed that
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aryeh1 on April 03, 2012, 12:32:17 AM
We are unable to complete your transaction until further review. It can take up to 24 hours to complete this transaction. We apologize for any inconvenience this delay may cause.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on April 03, 2012, 12:55:53 AM
We are unable to complete your transaction until further review. It can take up to 24 hours to complete this transaction. We apologize for any inconvenience this delay may cause.
do you have a verified bank account on that account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on April 03, 2012, 12:57:35 AM
Thats common, nothing to worry.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aryeh1 on April 03, 2012, 12:58:45 AM
do you have a verified bank account on that account?

It looks like it came off from the amazon local gift card deal, should I re add a bank account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on April 03, 2012, 01:07:21 AM
It looks like it came off from the amazon local gift card deal, should I re add a bank account?
I'm not sure what your saying but iv'e found that if you don't have a verified bank account they will do that every time you send $, they usually approve it within 1/2 day or so. However when you add a bank account the transactions go through right away.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on April 03, 2012, 01:21:06 AM
That happened even with a verified bank account, IMFE.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: runnergirl on April 04, 2012, 07:29:31 PM
I set up two Amazon payment accounts with difference e-mail addresses, etc. When I try to send $ from one account to another, a message pops up, "Receipient Cannot Receive this payment. Please contact them to find out why". Any clue why this may be happening? Any info on who I can contact to find out how to fix my problem?
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on April 04, 2012, 07:30:40 PM
I set up two Amazon payment accounts with difference e-mail addresses, etc. When I try to send $ from one account to another, a message pops up, "Receipient Cannot Receive this payment. Please contact them to find out why". Any clue why this may be happening? Any info on who I can contact to find out how to fix my problem?

Sounds like you're over the receiving limit
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on April 04, 2012, 07:31:27 PM
Go to help and make them (AP) call you.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: runnergirl on April 04, 2012, 07:34:28 PM
Isn't receiving limit $1000?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on April 04, 2012, 07:38:29 PM
Isn't receiving limit $1000?
Receiving and sendind via a CC.

Check "View my limits" and see what it says.
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on April 04, 2012, 07:44:03 PM
Isn't receiving limit $1000?

I believe you need to have a bank account attached to the AP account to have a $1000 limit
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: cozmohoot on April 05, 2012, 07:54:04 PM
I believe you need to have a bank account attached to the AP account to have a $1000 limit
Yes ap can only receive 1k if bank is confirmed
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on April 10, 2012, 09:32:47 PM
Does Somebody know if i can send the money from my credit card to my bank account that my wife is also a joint on it?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on April 10, 2012, 10:23:43 PM
Does Somebody know if i can send the money from my credit card to my bank account that my wife is also a joint on it?
I'm not sure if i understand what your asking, but you can withdraw the $ in your Amazon Payments account to a verified bank account. There are 2 ways to verify, either by giving then your bank login info or by trial deposits. Either way as long as the name on the amazon account is on the bank account you'll be fine. If you use trial deposits the names don't have to match at all.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on April 10, 2012, 11:32:26 PM
i mean to ask to send a gift from my ap account to my wifes and have the money go from my credit card to my and wifes bank account that i will llink to her ap account only
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: good sam on April 10, 2012, 11:36:20 PM
It will definitely work.  But don't forget that if they smell something fishy, there's a risk of getting shut down.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on April 10, 2012, 11:54:40 PM
i mean to ask to send a gift from my ap account to my wifes and have the money go from my credit card to my and wifes bank account that i will llink to her ap account only
I do s/t similar, and thus far, no problems
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on April 11, 2012, 12:27:56 PM
For those (like me) who continue to risk using Amex on AP despite being forewarned, my friend had 3 Amex cards closed yesterday for AP abuse. Now granted he was an idiot about it (doing something like $8K/month) but still - more anecdotal evidence to stay away.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 11, 2012, 12:40:00 PM
That is harsh. They just closed all his amex cards outright, no fr?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on April 11, 2012, 12:48:31 PM
I understand why AP shut down for abuse. But why do Amex care for AP abuse? After all they get their money for the charge weather its AP or a legit purchase.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on April 11, 2012, 12:51:11 PM
I understand why AP shut down for abuse. But why do Amex care for AP abuse? After all they get their money for the charge weather its AP or a legit purchase.

The same reason as ordering coins from the mint.
1) Its a free cash advance
2) free miles
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on April 11, 2012, 12:51:56 PM
I understand why AP shut down for abuse. But why do Amex care for AP abuse? After all they get their money for the charge weather its AP or a legit purchase.
because it's a cash advance, i.e. larger risk
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on April 11, 2012, 12:53:17 PM
Again, what do they care weather its a purchase or AP as long they earn their share? They give free miles for any charge on the card, whats the diff?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: trying123 on April 11, 2012, 01:27:26 PM
Which part didn't u understand its for amex a bigger risk if u cash out then u regular charge to buy an item. And companies hate to expose them self to bigger risks and still reward u for it
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on April 11, 2012, 01:33:23 PM
Again, what do they care weather its a purchase or AP as long they earn their share? They give free miles for any charge on the card, whats the diff?

Please don't take this topic OT.
Thanx
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on April 11, 2012, 02:41:50 PM
did anyone ever had an issue with chase closing your card for using too much AP?

And while i'm at it why do i need to type in all these letters every time i make a post here...?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on April 11, 2012, 03:59:07 PM

And while i'm at it why do i need to type in all these letters every time i make a post here...?
+1... wondering the same. If yes how many Ks in APs did it take until you had issues?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on April 11, 2012, 04:24:56 PM
That is harsh. They just closed all his amex cards outright, no fr?
He went back and forth with them on the phone for a week while all his cards were frozen. Dunno exact details.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on April 11, 2012, 04:51:13 PM
You can also buy prepaid gift cards using your CC and cash them out on AP to keep AP off your credit card.  I do that but only because I earn significant more "miles/points" on my gift card transaction than I would on the AP transaction.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on April 11, 2012, 05:01:15 PM
You can also buy prepaid gift cards using your CC and cash them out on AP to keep AP off your credit card.  I do that but only because I earn significant more "miles/points" on my gift card transaction than I would on the AP transaction.
How so? buying the GC in Supermarkets on Freedom?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on April 11, 2012, 05:57:11 PM
How so? buying the GC in Supermarkets on Freedom?
A lot of cards pay higher cash back/points/miles for G/G/D purchases.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on April 11, 2012, 06:27:46 PM
A lot of cards pay higher cash back/points/miles for G/G/D purchases.
Would you be so kind as to direct me to somewhere on this forum that would have more info on it? I don't want to turn the discussion to GCs instead of AP here.... I'm not very familiar with GC and how to purchase them fee free...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on April 11, 2012, 07:10:03 PM
Would you be so kind as to direct me to somewhere on this forum that would have more info on it? I don't want to turn the discussion to GCs instead of AP here.... I'm not very familiar with GC and how to purchase them fee free...
you don't purchase them fee free, however many times the extra miles/points you would get at the g/g/d would make the fee worthwhile.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on April 11, 2012, 07:17:28 PM
you don't purchase them fee free, however many times the extra miles/points you would get at the g/g/d would make the fee worthwhile.
Any links?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on April 11, 2012, 07:52:46 PM
Any links?
most of them would be in store
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Priceless on April 11, 2012, 10:44:04 PM
??
you don't purchase them fee free, however many times the extra miles/points you would get at the g/g/d would make the fee worthwhile.
What is g/g/d?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: smurf on April 11, 2012, 11:31:55 PM
?? What is g/g/d?
gas/groceries/dining
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on April 11, 2012, 11:36:40 PM
gas/groceries/dining
I thought the D was for drug stores (a la old blue cash etc.)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on April 12, 2012, 12:34:06 AM
I thought the D was for drug stores (a la old blue cash etc.)
...and other cards.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on April 12, 2012, 11:01:08 AM
I thought the D was for drug stores (a la old blue cash etc.)

+1, that's what it is for my old BC.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: CholentTheTraveler on April 15, 2012, 12:30:05 PM
Anyone got any specific tactics they like to use with Amazon payments or specific cards they prefer to use? I am starting off with smaller amounts just to slowly build up the miles without any risk and was looking for words of wisdom from those more experienced then I.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on April 15, 2012, 12:42:25 PM
Anyone got any specific tactics they like to use with Amazon payments or specific cards they prefer to use? I am starting off with smaller amounts just to slowly build up the miles without any risk and was looking for words of wisdom from those more experienced then I.
First of all i'd be very hesitant to use Amex cards bec. of F/R (Financial Review) risk.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on April 15, 2012, 06:46:22 PM
What do people do when AP asks for account holder verification?

They just closed one of my accounts bec the ss# didn't match the account holders name. They sent multiple emails until finally shutting the account. 

My main question is if I open I new account,  could I use the same cc and bank account info as the last account. ?

Any advice is appreciated. 
Thanx
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 15, 2012, 07:33:33 PM
just curious what made you give your social new account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on April 15, 2012, 07:40:01 PM
just curious what made you give your social new account?

Huh?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 15, 2012, 07:46:18 PM
I was wondering why you ever gave your social, and speculated if it is a new account which would need it to be opened.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on April 15, 2012, 08:01:40 PM
I was wondering why you ever gave your social, and speculated if it is a new account which would need it to be opened.

IIRC they asked for ss when I opened the account.  About 2 months later I started getting emails that the ss doesn't match and I need to verify the account.  Finally they sent me a final notice.  So I "verified" the account".

About 3 days later I got an email that the verification failed.  Again they started sending me email after email that I need to verify account.  I ignored it and now my account can't send or withdraw funds. I'm not sure if it can receive funds but I'm not willing to test.
 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gpapadop on April 16, 2012, 07:52:09 AM
I finally got this thing going...I think I set it up right. Is there a FAQ or sticky describing this in more detail?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on April 23, 2012, 08:57:55 AM
got forced to give my social today  :(

Quote
Social Security Number
To verify your identity and ensure compliance with federal and state regulations, please provide your full 9 digit Social Security Number
*Social Security Number    

ETA: accidentally logged into the wrong amazon account. Needed to give the info for new account not current one 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on April 23, 2012, 06:14:29 PM
Was just looking over my wife's credit report and I noticed there was a soft pull from amazon payments.

I have never supplied them with her SSN, so I was wondering did this happen to anyone else?

What do you think they want?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on April 23, 2012, 07:12:10 PM
Was just looking over my wife's credit report and I noticed there was a soft pull from amazon payments.

I have never supplied them with her SSN, so I was wondering did this happen to anyone else?

What do you think they want?
Can they get your SS# from the CR?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sky121 on April 23, 2012, 07:56:23 PM
Can I open an Amazon Payments account for a 3 year old?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on April 29, 2012, 02:04:02 PM
Feel free to point me in the right direction, but is having 2 accounts linked to the same bank account an automatic red flag?
The actual AP accounts are under 2 different names.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: oldguy on April 29, 2012, 02:42:35 PM
Feel free to point me in the right direction, but is having 2 accounts linked to the same bank account an automatic red flag?
The actual AP accounts are under 2 different names.
I have 8 accounts linked to the same bank account and only 2 got closed down what i opened them one 1 day and sent $1k on each to each other.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sky121 on April 29, 2012, 03:19:09 PM
Can the name and social not match?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on April 29, 2012, 03:21:33 PM
I have 8 accounts linked to the same bank account and only 2 got closed down what i opened them one 1 day and sent $1k on each to each other.
Are they all real names with SNN's?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on April 29, 2012, 04:15:56 PM
I have 8 accounts linked to the same bank account and only 2 got closed down what i opened them one 1 day and sent $1k on each to each other.

So you think it's b/c they were opened and funded to each other on the same day, and not sharing the bank account that caused it? (thanks for the data point)

Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: oldguy on April 30, 2012, 02:08:29 PM
Are they all real names with SNN's?
Yes my own name & SS #.
So you think it's b/c they were opened and funded to each other on the same day, and not sharing the bank account that caused it? (thanks for the data point)
I don't know.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on April 30, 2012, 02:33:28 PM
Yes my own name & SS #.
So you had 8 accounts with all the same name address etc. and SSN?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: oldguy on April 30, 2012, 02:42:23 PM
So you had 8 accounts with all the same name address etc. and SSN?
Yes.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 04, 2012, 12:36:00 AM
I always send money to one of my sisters and last month I gave her one of my cc to pay me with my own cc from her acct. Question is if there is a risk in giving the same cc number to a different person to add to their account and send me money with this month instead on my sister.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on May 04, 2012, 12:38:38 AM
I always send money to one of my sisters and last month I gave her one of my cc to pay me with my own cc from her acct. Question is if there is a risk in giving the same cc number to a different person to add to their account and send me money with this month instead on my sister.
Risk? Likely, but I've done it many times and so far no issues.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: good sam on May 04, 2012, 12:40:33 AM
I always send money to one of my sisters and last month I gave her one of my cc to pay me with my own cc from her acct. Question is if there is a risk in giving the same cc number to a different person to add to their account and send me money with this month instead on my sister.
It's definitely been done but it's definitely a risk.  You never know when they're gonna start cracking down.  It's probably safer if it's an AU with a different CC number (Amex?)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on May 04, 2012, 12:45:21 AM
I always send money to one of my sisters and last month I gave her one of my cc to pay me with my own cc from her acct. Question is if there is a risk in giving the same cc number to a different person to add to their account and send me money with this month instead on my sister.
IME if the credit card is associated with your amazon [payments?] account then it will flag her account when she adds it.
In other words don't have one CC# on 2 accounts.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 04, 2012, 12:57:06 AM
IME if the credit card is associated with your amazon [payments?] account then it will flag her account when she adds it.
In other words don't have one CC# on 2 accounts.
it was never added to my account just to one of my sisters and now perhaps on to someone else. I suppose risk is if they see same cc paying me from 2 diff accts, which is major red flag if they notice.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on May 04, 2012, 07:39:28 AM
I have 3 accts they do not let me send from 1 to 2 and from 2 to 1 the 3rd I can send to any it has a different address
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on May 04, 2012, 10:03:38 AM
IME if the credit card is associated with your amazon [payments?] account then it will flag her account when she adds it.
In other words don't have one CC# on 2 accounts.

My experience is the opposite. I have the same cards on 3 different accounts and use them all without any problem.

Its getting nearly impossible to put together any concrete data points about AP. Everyone's experiences are so different.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on May 04, 2012, 11:00:49 AM
Its getting nearly impossible to put together any concrete data points about AP. Everyone's experiences are so different.

That is so true.  I think the longer your accounts have been around the better, and they seem to fall off their radar.  New accounts seem to get more scrutinized.  My wife has 6 older accounts all with her name and address, sending 'herself' money back and forth every month with no problems at all.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: oldguy on May 04, 2012, 11:25:14 AM
That is so true.  I think the longer your accounts have been around the better, and they seem to fall off their radar.  New accounts seem to get more scrutinized.  My wife has 6 older accounts all with her name and address, sending 'herself' money back and forth every month with no problems at all.
+1 i have 8 and only 2 got closed down
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on May 04, 2012, 11:54:14 AM
Anyone experience your login info all of the sudden not working? And this on multiple accounts?? Tried resetting password but it looks like AP actually blocked it....
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on May 07, 2012, 08:33:18 PM
Does anyone know if there is a limit on how many credit cards you can add to your AP account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 07, 2012, 08:33:50 PM
Does anyone know if there is a limit on how many credit cards you can add to your AP account?
i have done many many cards.
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on May 07, 2012, 09:04:23 PM
i have done many many cards.
I'm talking about 30++
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: oldguy on May 07, 2012, 10:41:04 PM
I'm talking about 30++
why in the world do you need so many? :o
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on May 07, 2012, 10:44:25 PM
I'm talking about 30++
I am not sure at once but if you delete them you can have way more than that.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 07, 2012, 10:58:52 PM
why in the world do you need so many? :o
giftcards I am sure
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on May 07, 2012, 10:59:56 PM
why in the world do you need so many? :o

Some people actually do use AP for business payment services. If one of his customers doesn't have an AP account,  he will add the cc to his personal account and send the money to his business account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on May 07, 2012, 11:02:23 PM
why in the world do you need so many? :o
giftcards I am sure
yup!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on May 07, 2012, 11:02:42 PM
I am not sure at once but if you delete them you can have way more than that.
talking from experience  ;)
Here is something else to make things easier. If you donít have one of these you are not buying enough GCís.  :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Credit-Card-Reader-Mini-3-Hi-Co-Magnetic-mag-swiper-/300573715418?pt=BI_Credit_Card_Terminals&hash=item45fb96ebda
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on May 08, 2012, 12:52:25 AM
LOL how would you have enough GC to use one of those things??? I thought it is a big red flag to swipe for too many GCs.... I thought Amex can ban you if they see you purchasing too many... Plus, is it possibly a cause for A/A??
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on May 08, 2012, 12:57:53 AM
LOL how would you have enough GC to use one of those things??? I thought it is a big red flag to swipe for too many GCs.... I thought Amex can ban you if they see you purchasing too many... Plus, is it possibly a cause for A/A??
The main use was for the Mint deal. Now it is worth its weight in gold.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on May 08, 2012, 01:00:58 AM
The main use was for the Mint deal. Now it is worth its weight in gold.

Won't Amex ban you for buying too many GCs?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on May 08, 2012, 01:03:53 AM
Won't Amex ban you for buying too many GCs?
Short answer would be yes but like a FR there is more to it. It is hard to pinpoint what the exact reasons are.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on May 08, 2012, 01:38:24 AM
why in the world do you need so many? :o

If you are receiving 10-15 cc's a year and you need to meet minimum spend, it's not hard to have that many cards before long.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 08, 2012, 01:47:39 AM
another reason could be the 5x points with the ink bold
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on May 08, 2012, 01:52:16 AM
another reason could be the 5x points with the ink bold
???
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on May 08, 2012, 09:54:10 AM
AP was asking me to verify my wifes account and I did and now when I log into her acc. it says there are restrictions and she cant send or receive. what does that mean?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on May 08, 2012, 09:59:37 AM
Does anyone know if there is a limit on how many credit cards you can add to your AP account?
Why not delete the cards that you are not using
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on May 08, 2012, 09:59:51 AM
I got an email saying that my account will be restricted if I don't provide SSN. I logged in, it took me to a different screen I had never seen before, logged out, logged back in and I was fine. Didn't provide any info yet.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on May 08, 2012, 10:01:36 AM
The main use was for the Mint deal. Now it is worth its weight in gold.
Do you pay % for swipe and how much
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 08, 2012, 10:08:20 AM
Do you pay % for swipe and how much
Its like a keyboard. You buy it and you have it.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on May 08, 2012, 11:14:40 AM
another reason could be the 5x points with the ink bold
Another risky venture from what I've read...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on May 08, 2012, 11:26:54 AM
Its like a keyboard. You buy it and you have it.
Do you sign up with a bank.
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on May 08, 2012, 11:55:21 AM
AP was asking me to verify my wifes account and I did and now when I log into her acc. it says there are restrictions and she cant send or receive. what does that mean?
you probably didn't do it fast enough. Email them at payments-verification@ amazon.com with the DOB and last four of the social and they will lift the restrictions. It can take them up to a day to respond.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on May 08, 2012, 11:59:07 AM
Do you pay % for swipe and how much
It's a reader not a processor. It just transfers the card info to your computer.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on May 08, 2012, 12:12:33 PM
It's a reader not a processor. It just transfers the card info to your computer.

Does it apply that info into your browser easily? Like one swipe will fill out CC #, Exp?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: oldguy on May 08, 2012, 02:58:59 PM
Some people actually do use AP for business payment services. If one of his customers doesn't have an AP account,  he will add the cc to his personal account and send the money to his business account.
if the max is $1000 a month then how many costumers could you put on already
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on May 08, 2012, 03:01:39 PM
Does it apply that info into your browser easily? Like one swipe will fill out CC #, Exp?
no, there might be such a thing out there but not this.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on May 08, 2012, 03:55:42 PM
if the max is $1000 a month then how many costumers could you put on already
You can only send 1k with cc per month. However, you can receive unlimited, and send unlimited from your linked bank account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on May 08, 2012, 04:40:12 PM
no, there might be such a thing out there but not this.

So then what is a practical use of the reader when it comes to GCs?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on May 08, 2012, 05:04:51 PM
Has anyone been charged $10.00 by amazon for making a payment. The bank that was getting the deposit says that Amazon is doing this often.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on May 08, 2012, 05:09:53 PM
Has anyone been charged $10.00 by amazon for making a payment. The bank that was getting the deposit says that Amazon is doing this often.
first I've heard of it... is this for transferring money into your bank? I never use banks to send money :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on May 08, 2012, 05:58:39 PM
first I've heard of it... is this for transferring money into your bank? I never use banks to send money :)
Yes for transferring to Chase. The Chase CS said that this is happening.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on May 08, 2012, 06:21:45 PM
Yes for transferring to Chase. The Chase CS said that this is happening.
Who is charging the fee, Chase? I just had transfers to Alliant CU today and no fees.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on May 08, 2012, 07:26:14 PM
Who is charging the fee, Chase? I just had transfers to Alliant CU today and no fees.
Amazon is making the charge
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on May 08, 2012, 07:32:20 PM
Amazon is making the charge
Was it disclosed by AP when you made the transfer?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on May 08, 2012, 07:34:44 PM
Was it disclosed by AP when you made the transfer?
This is not for me. It is for s friend of mine. They called chase and chase said the charge was from AP
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on May 08, 2012, 08:28:14 PM
This is not for me. It is for s friend of mine. They called chase and chase said the charge was from AP
I've done it to chase several times and this is the first I've heard of it... anyone else have had this happen?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: boruch on May 09, 2012, 06:53:32 AM
Transferring to my Chase account for over a year now. Never happened.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on May 09, 2012, 07:07:22 AM
I think it would be pretty safe to file the $10 charge under "sh*t happens" and leave it at that.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on May 09, 2012, 07:13:56 AM
I think it would be pretty safe to file the $10 charge under "sh*t happens" and leave it at that.
It ended up being a chase charge
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on May 09, 2012, 07:17:12 AM
It ended up being a chase charge
That is what I figured. With Chase anything is possible. Now try and figure out why he was charged.  :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on May 09, 2012, 07:18:44 AM
That is what I figured. With Chase anything is possible. Now try and figure out why he was charged.  :)
They did and the charge was deleted. Interesting my experience with Chase are actually nice.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on May 09, 2012, 07:29:28 AM
They did and the charge was deleted. Interesting my experience with Chase are actually nice.
Same here except for the "not used as intended" letters.  >:(
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on May 09, 2012, 07:38:10 AM
Boruch Hashem I never got that letter
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: oldguy on May 09, 2012, 01:54:35 PM
You can only send 1k with cc per month. However, you can receive unlimited, and send unlimited from your linked bank account.
He was talking about 30 CC
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on May 10, 2012, 02:03:52 AM
He was talking about 30 CC
You would have multiple cc's in order to achieve the spend req on each. I have never had a limit issue, although I'm still not at 30 :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on May 10, 2012, 01:14:44 PM
What do I do if they are not letting me login to an account I have (called and they said the account is currently frozen while being looked into by account specialist) so I can't withdraw the money I have in there???? Should I dispute the charge??
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 10, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
wait. they may unfreeze it. It has happened before. If not you can dispute later.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on May 10, 2012, 03:11:14 PM
wait. they may unfreeze it. It has happened before. If not you can dispute later.
How long to wait??
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on May 10, 2012, 04:15:05 PM
So what would happen to money that is lying within them? Refunded to original credit card?

Did anyone find out what the answer to this is (where there is money in the AP account that gets closed down completely)???
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on May 10, 2012, 04:27:52 PM
Did anyone find out what the answer to this is (where there is money in the AP account that gets closed down completely)???
both have happened. there was a report earlier in this thread about them opening the account temporarily to withdraw the funds, and by me the  refunded it to the cc it was send from (after a bit of a drawn out process).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: spetropo on May 15, 2012, 08:55:35 AM
Just logged into my AP account and seen this across the top: We are processing the tax identity information submitted by you. Your account will have restricted functionality during this time.

I have used AP many times and havent had this message, anyone else seen this? Afraid to initiate a transaction and have the money stuck in limbo. I did send them an message for more info as to what that means.

Thanks
S
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 15, 2012, 09:11:33 AM
I got it too though it may be because I never put in my social till now when it said that account is closed till I give my social. After I put it in it said it is restricted while it processes.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 15, 2012, 09:13:33 AM
Oh and the same story with the account of my wife.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: spetropo on May 15, 2012, 09:43:02 AM
I had given them both socials.

S
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 15, 2012, 09:45:52 AM
I tried pushing it off and made it till now so that is pretty good I think.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on May 15, 2012, 10:15:28 AM
I had given them both socials.

S
When did you give the SS
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: spetropo on May 15, 2012, 10:49:53 AM
Early on during one of my transaction, it had asked me to provide them durin login. I would say 3-4 months ago and have initiated transactions since.
S
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: spetropo on May 16, 2012, 08:24:54 AM
Response from Amazon:

I understand your concern about the message appearing in your Amazon Payments account that your account is restricted. Please allow me to explain.

I've checked your account and it looks like you have submitted your tax information. We're reviewing the information that you've provided.

It appears that due to a technical problem an error message was appearing in your account. I've checked with our concerned department and corrected it. If you check your account again the message shouldn't be appearing in your account anymore.

Rest assured that there is no problem with your Amazon Payments account and payments can still be processed.

If you're still facing any problems with your Amazon Payments account, please visit the link below and let us know. .
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 16, 2012, 09:06:21 AM
Yep my accounts are back up too!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on May 16, 2012, 12:23:54 PM
Mine are back to the old message asking for tax id info. Phew.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gunit770 on May 18, 2012, 10:53:25 AM
Has anybody tried using AP for Citi AA cards to meet minimum spend? I have heard that they consider these to be cash advances and that fees would be involved (in addition to not helping out on minimum spend. Does anybody have experience in this?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on May 18, 2012, 11:19:52 AM
Has anybody tried using AP for Citi AA cards to meet minimum spend? I have heard that they consider these to be cash advances and that fees would be involved (in addition to not helping out on minimum spend. Does anybody have experience in this?
I have used it recently but not for minimum spend. There was no fees and its considered a standard purchase.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 18, 2012, 12:06:32 PM
Has anybody tried using AP for Citi AA cards to meet minimum spend? I have heard that they consider these to be cash advances and that fees would be involved (in addition to not helping out on minimum spend. Does anybody have experience in this?
in addition to what JEWDA is saying if you are nervous you can set your cash advance on your cc to zero and therefore you have no risks.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on May 18, 2012, 03:31:01 PM
in addition to what JEWDA is saying if you are nervous you can set your cash advance on your cc to zero and therefore you have no risks.
Not always true but a good idea.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: oldguy on May 20, 2012, 01:33:58 PM
Not always true but a good idea.
Why not?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on May 20, 2012, 03:46:47 PM
Why not?
Even if your CA is set to zero the charged still can be approved. It is at the discretion of the CC issuer. It is a very rare occurrence but I have seen it happen.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lyla on May 20, 2012, 09:03:56 PM
Has anybody tried using AP for Citi AA cards to meet minimum spend? I have heard that they consider these to be cash advances and that fees would be involved (in addition to not helping out on minimum spend. Does anybody have experience in this?
I used it for minimum purchase. No problems encountered.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gunit770 on May 20, 2012, 11:24:38 PM
Thanks, 2 Browser trick here I come!

I have used it recently but not for minimum spend. There was no fees and its considered a standard purchase.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on May 31, 2012, 02:12:51 PM
Help

I opened a new account and sent a payment to it and got:
 
"We are unable to complete your transaction until further review. It can take up to 24 hours to complete this transaction. We apologize for any inconvenience this delay may cause."

and a few hours later got:

"Your ability to receive payments in your account will be restricted until you provide your Tax Identification Number"

What should I do ? should I supply my ssn, will the payment not go through until I do?

Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on May 31, 2012, 02:28:54 PM
Help

I opened a new account and sent a payment to it and got:
 
"We are unable to complete your transaction until further review. It can take up to 24 hours to complete this transaction. We apologize for any inconvenience this delay may cause."

and a few hours later got:

"Your ability to receive payments in your account will be restricted until you provide your Tax Identification Number"

What should I do ? should I supply my ssn, will the payment not go through until I do?
Give you SSN and call them.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on May 31, 2012, 02:35:33 PM
Give you SSN and call them.
why call them?

this is the full email:

Thank you for creating an Amazon Payments account. In order to complete
registration, we require you to provide us your tax identification number (TIN).
For customers with Amazon Payments personal accounts, your TIN is your Social
Security Number. You can provide your Social Security Number by following these
steps:

1.   Log-in to https://payments.amazon.com using your Amazon.com credentials.
2.   Click on 'Edit my account settings'
3.   Click on 'Edit my SSN, legal name, primary address'

Your ability to receive payments in your account will be restricted until you
provide your Tax Identification Number.

Important Notice: Information in this e-mail does not constitute tax, legal, or
other professional advice. To find out how this new legislation will affect your
business, or if you have other questions, please contact your tax, legal, or
other professional advisor.

Best regards,
Amazon Payments
https://payments.amazon.com

This is an automated e-mail message. Please do not respond to it.
To contact our Amazon Payments team, click on https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/contactus
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on May 31, 2012, 02:36:17 PM
why call them?
So they can process it faster.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on May 31, 2012, 02:37:47 PM
So they can process it faster.
but it can raise a flag?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on May 31, 2012, 02:42:01 PM
but it can raise a flag?
It happened to me. No worries.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on May 31, 2012, 03:36:04 PM
It happened to me. No worries.

the payment will only go through if I provide my ssn? I rather not as its my second acct
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on May 31, 2012, 03:37:46 PM
the payment will only go through if I provide my ssn? I rather not as its my second acct

And what would happen if you "accidentally" entered the wrong ssn?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on May 31, 2012, 03:57:30 PM
Anyone have experience using Visa gift cards on AP? Would the $1 test charge not allow me to charge the full amount thats on the gc?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on May 31, 2012, 03:58:31 PM
And what would happen if you "accidentally" entered the wrong ssn?
They can shut you?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on May 31, 2012, 04:07:58 PM
Anyone have experience using Visa gift cards on AP? Would the $1 test charge not allow me to charge the full amount thats on the gc?

HelpMe once posted a good trick for that.
When adding the gc, enter the wrong exp date. Then change it a minute later to the correct one.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on May 31, 2012, 04:39:54 PM
They can shut you?

And then you can open a new account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on May 31, 2012, 04:45:06 PM
HelpMe once posted a good trick for that.
When adding the gc, enter the wrong exp date. Then change it a minute later to the correct one.
Color me confused. Why would that be needed? Did he post that on this thread?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on May 31, 2012, 04:48:05 PM
Color me confused. Why would that be needed? Did he post that on this thread?
Forget my comment. I searched and found it here.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3524.msg183620#msg183620

Thanks!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gozalim on May 31, 2012, 05:24:24 PM
you can also wait a week for the $1 authorization to fall off and then do it. (this issue was a bigger problem with crowdtilt which needed to complete within the week)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on May 31, 2012, 05:30:16 PM
It happened to me. No worries.
I entered in SSN , a digit off its still says that the payemnt needs to be reviewed.
Should I call or its risky?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on May 31, 2012, 05:41:35 PM
I entered in SSN , a digit off its still says that the payemnt needs to be reviewed.
Should I call or its risky?
I would call.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on May 31, 2012, 05:47:37 PM
Never a good idea to give wrong information.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on May 31, 2012, 06:08:36 PM
I would call.
They could ban me for having 2 accounts or sending payments back & fourth between accts?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 02, 2012, 10:36:41 PM
They could ban me for having 2 accounts or sending payments back & fourth between accts?
I would imagine so.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on June 03, 2012, 12:25:50 AM
Forget my comment. I searched and found it here.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3524.msg183620#msg183620

Thanks!
Great trick, that's gonna save me alot of time!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 04, 2012, 09:14:11 AM
Never a good idea to give wrong information.
granted it is not a good idea but would you say it is better to open 2 accounts under same name? I have a friend that did that made 2 accounts for himself and 2 for his wife and they do 4 payments each month. I tried telling him how risky it is but he has been doing it for a long time already so....
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 04, 2012, 09:34:44 AM
granted it is not a good idea but would you say it is better to open 2 accounts under same name? I have a friend that did that made 2 accounts for himself and 2 for his wife and they do 4 payments each month. I tried telling him how risky it is but he has been doing it for a long time already so....
Providing false information is against the T&Cís. IIRC it is not against the T&Cís to have more than one AP account. I have seen many reports of members having two AP accounts and not having any problems. Maybe another poll is needed?  :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 04, 2012, 10:10:47 AM
Maybe another poll is needed?  :)
Good idea this would give everyone a good feel for what the story is here and would sort of summarize this thread.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 05, 2012, 01:11:00 PM
Just wondering what the best way to make a second amazon payment account would be, without risking getting shut down on the first account. I will not send money between them. Is it possible to open under a buz name with an ein number or just do it under a different email account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 07, 2012, 02:47:07 AM
I've been trying to send to someone payment(s) using my card on file, yet time after time I get an immediate email saying "payment to xy has failed".

Only one of a dozen times did it go through..

I then tried to make another payment, and I just kept on getting failure failure failure...

Anybody know why this is happening?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 07, 2012, 02:49:35 AM
Have you tried another card from a different issuer?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: pianodude on June 08, 2012, 12:19:20 AM
I am trying to meet minimum spend on both the Citi AA Visa and Amex. I have added my wife as an additional user on my Amex. Is it OK for me to send $1K on the Visa and she send $1K on the Amex?  We're not sending to each other; we'll use two separate bank accounts.  Will Citi see the two transactions and get concerned?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on June 08, 2012, 01:01:16 AM
I am trying to meet minimum spend on both the Citi AA Visa and Amex. I have added my wife as an additional user on my Amex. Is it OK for me to send $1K on the Visa and she send $1K on the Amex?  We're not sending to each other; we'll use two separate bank accounts.  Will Citi see the two transactions and get concerned?

Citi doesn't seem to be so strict about this kinda stuff. IMO, it would be ok
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 08, 2012, 01:06:56 AM
Citi doesn't seem to be so strict about this kinda stuff. IMO, it would be ok
+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on June 08, 2012, 03:00:24 AM
If you are using GCís a little trick is to put in the wrong date when adding the card. Go back and change it to the correct date and you can drain the full amount of the card. No need to worry about the 1.00 authorization. 
Thanks for this neat little trick!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 08, 2012, 03:02:30 AM
Thanks for this neat little trick!
Thats why I am here, to HelpYou.  :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on June 08, 2012, 03:09:01 AM
Thats why I am here, to HelpYou.  :)
Time to change your username? ;)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on June 10, 2012, 12:30:48 AM
I am trying to meet minimum spend on both the Citi AA Visa and Amex. I have added my wife as an additional user on my Amex. Is it OK for me to send $1K on the Visa and she send $1K on the Amex?  We're not sending to each other; we'll use two separate bank accounts.  Will Citi see the two transactions and get concerned?
I've heard you need to be wary using AP and Amex... not sure about this one as Citi is the issuer...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 10, 2012, 01:46:26 AM
I've heard you need to be wary using AP and Amex... not sure about this one as Citi is the issuer...
IMHO if you are just doing it for min spend and do not get greedy you should be fine even with Amex.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on June 10, 2012, 05:49:37 AM
IMHO if you are just doing it for min spend and do not get greedy you should be fine even with Amex.
+1

I think that we've confused causation and correlation when discussing F/Rs
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2012, 12:21:31 PM
IMHO if you are just doing it for min spend and do not get greedy you should be fine even with Amex.

Yes, if by fine, you mean essentially playing Russian Roulette.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on June 10, 2012, 02:20:48 PM
+1

I think that we've confused causation and correlation when discussing F/Rs

Having suffered through a F/R, having to shut down all my Amex's (and about 80% of my CL), and fighting a long uphill battle to get my toe back in the Amex door, I can only urge everyone to exercise extreme caution when dealing with Amex.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 10, 2012, 03:07:25 PM
Having suffered through a F/R, having to shut down all my Amex's (and about 80% of my CL), and fighting a long uphill battle to get my toe back in the Amex door, I can only urge everyone to exercise extreme caution when dealing with Amex.
It is a good idea to have cards from every major CC issuer and a few CUís so all your eggs are not in one basket.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on June 10, 2012, 07:57:50 PM
It is a good idea to have cards from every major CC issuer and a few CUís so all your eggs are not in one basket.

Yes this is true, something I have been working on ever since...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lyla on June 11, 2012, 12:33:37 PM
I posted the following question and got a response of "don't worry" When I asked for them to be more specific I was told that it was the wrong forum and that I should post it here. So here it goes:

Is it true that if you send money through AP to someone for services that they report the amount to the IRS? My friend is worried that he will be taxed on the money sent to him.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 11, 2012, 12:39:14 PM
At this time AP has given no indication that they will be reporting it. I assume we are talking about less 20k and 200 transactions a year.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on June 11, 2012, 12:53:11 PM
If I ever get a 1099K for amazon payments, I will just file with cost basis equal to the payments (resulting in net taxable income 0).  That is being completely truthful if you are sending payments to yourself.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on June 11, 2012, 03:58:00 PM
If I ever get a 1099K for amazon payments, I will just file with cost basis equal to the payments (resulting in net taxable income 0).  That is being completely truthful if you are sending payments to yourself.
Can you please explain exactly how you do that? Also, if you file cost basis equal to payments do you have to explain exacly how it is so? Does it trigger an audit if it's alot if money?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on June 11, 2012, 04:50:16 PM
At this time AP has given no indication that they will be reporting it. I assume we are talking about less 20k and 200 transactions a year.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200663310
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 11, 2012, 04:58:08 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200663310
Are you confirming or disputing what I said?  :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on June 11, 2012, 07:47:00 PM
Are you confirming or disputing what I said?  :)
It sounds to me that they will give 1099 no?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on June 12, 2012, 01:02:57 AM
It sounds to me that they will give 1099 no?

sellers that meet both of the following thresholds in a calendar year:

    More than $20,000 in gross sales, and
    More than 200 transactions.



Seems like HelpMe is correct...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 12, 2012, 01:11:36 AM

sellers that meet both of the following thresholds in a calendar year:

    More than $20,000 in gross sales, and
    More than 200 transactions.



Seems like HelpMe is correct...
I think we are both saying the same thing. No 1099 for normal AP 1k transfers each month.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on June 12, 2012, 09:58:19 AM
I think we are both saying the same thing. No 1099 for normal AP 1k transfers each month.
Yup.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on June 12, 2012, 08:19:29 PM
I've checked many of my AP accounts and I see that cc sending/receiving limits were reset around June 1 and again on June 3. Anyone else have this
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 12, 2012, 08:27:32 PM
I've checked many of my AP accounts and I see that cc sending/receiving limits were reset around June 1 and again on June 3. Anyone else have this
Sweet, same here on all accounts. Have you tried to send or receive?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: smurf on June 12, 2012, 08:54:52 PM
I've checked many of my AP accounts and I see that cc sending/receiving limits were reset around June 1 and again on June 3. Anyone else have this
shucks, you snooze you lose
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on June 12, 2012, 08:55:56 PM
I did. Just worked and doubled up on all my accounts.
Great bonus. Especially since $500 gift cards at my local grocery store are on sale for $495 ($10 off)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 12, 2012, 08:59:00 PM
I did. Just worked and doubled up on all my accounts.
Great bonus. Especially since $500 gift cards at my local grocery store are on sale for $495 ($10 off)
Great, will be at the store first thing in the morning.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on June 12, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
I did. Just worked and doubled up on all my accounts.
Great bonus. Especially since $500 gift cards at my local grocery store are on sale for $495 ($10 off)

What's the name of the store?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: boruch on June 12, 2012, 11:02:18 PM
Wow! I think this qualifies for the 'commends that leave me speechless' post...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on June 12, 2012, 11:03:09 PM
I did. Just worked and doubled up on all my accounts.
Great bonus. Especially since $500 gift cards at my local grocery store are on sale for $495 ($10 off)

+1 looks that way on mine... shows remaining limit reset to 1k... hope this works as I'm trying to hit spending threshold and this really couldn't come at a better time...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on June 13, 2012, 12:17:46 AM
I've checked many of my AP accounts and I see that cc sending/receiving limits were reset around June 1 and again on June 3. Anyone else have this
+1 on my two accounts!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: momo on June 13, 2012, 12:26:02 AM
I initiated a payment on the 10th of june and i checked today and iy says status pending. Does that mean hey are going to shut my accounts? and will that charge go thru?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on June 13, 2012, 09:37:42 AM
I initiated a payment on the 10th of june and i checked today and iy says status pending. Does that mean hey are going to shut my accounts? and will that charge go thru?
Did the money make to the receivers account yet?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: momo on June 13, 2012, 10:08:42 AM
no it says pending
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on June 13, 2012, 10:09:35 AM
I've checked many of my AP accounts and I see that cc sending/receiving limits were reset around June 1 and again on June 3. Anyone else have this
My send limits were reset but not my receive limits.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on June 13, 2012, 02:01:49 PM
I initiated a payment on the 10th of june and i checked today and iy says status pending. Does that mean hey are going to shut my accounts? and will that charge go thru?
If it was sent from a bank account and not cc, its been my experience that they take a while.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on June 13, 2012, 04:43:54 PM
Thanks for the observation aj26, I noticed the same  8)  I found it interesting that people on another forum were complaining of the opposite - that their  remaining limits hadn't been reset yet at all in June.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on June 14, 2012, 06:25:48 AM
why was it reset? Does that mean you can send another 1k?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 14, 2012, 07:10:01 AM
why was it reset? Does that mean you can send another 1k?
Not sure & yes. All accounts 2k this month. Maybe it will reset again!  :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: spetropo on June 14, 2012, 11:11:49 AM
I just did a test transaction for $1 fine, then the second for $999 says failed :(
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 14, 2012, 11:22:51 AM
I just did a test transaction for $1 fine, then the second for $999 says failed :(
Try 998.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: spetropo on June 14, 2012, 11:37:49 AM
Tried $499
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on June 14, 2012, 04:59:10 PM
Mine has been pending for couple days now... used to never take over 24hrs. I have a feeling AP won't let it through...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on June 15, 2012, 08:18:52 AM
Does anyone know if I can remove my bank account from my AP account and add my friends bank account instead?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on June 15, 2012, 08:19:32 AM
Does anyone know if I can remove my bank account from my AP account and add my friends bank account instead?
Don't the names have to match?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on June 15, 2012, 08:21:21 AM
That's my question
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on June 15, 2012, 08:21:46 AM
Does anyone know if I can remove my bank account from my AP account and add my friends bank account instead?

Why not.

Don't the names have to match?

Nope.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 15, 2012, 09:01:28 AM


Nope.
personally confirmed?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ashers on June 15, 2012, 09:03:06 AM
Tried $750 and it worked
Hope they start reseting every month!  :P
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ashers on June 15, 2012, 09:04:03 AM
personally confirmed?
Yes.
my sister (married with a diff last name) has her AP account linked to MY bank account
never had a prob
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on June 15, 2012, 09:47:36 AM
personally confirmed?

Yup, numerous times.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on June 15, 2012, 10:00:44 AM
Anyone have an idea how to change my bank account on a mobile device?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 15, 2012, 10:03:53 AM
Anyone have an idea how to change my bank account on a mobile device?
Give me your info and I will do it for you.  :P
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on June 15, 2012, 10:48:03 AM
Tried $750 and it worked
Hope they start reseting every month!  :P
I"m STILL showing pending... 3 days now and the pending status says "up to 24 hours..."
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 15, 2012, 11:00:11 AM
Has anyone ever noticed the limits reset in any other month?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on June 15, 2012, 11:18:16 AM
Has anyone ever noticed the limits reset in any other month?

No but I can't say I was ever checking - obviously I will be now! 

HelpMe what do you make of the other people on FWF reporting their accounts didn't get reset at all for June (they couldn't send a payment at all).  That is a strange coincidence... 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 15, 2012, 11:56:39 AM
HelpMe what do you make of the other people on FWF reporting their accounts didn't get reset at all for June (they couldn't send a payment at all).  That is a strange coincidence...
Not sure but it might be BS to kill the thread. Odd no mention of accounts being reset.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on June 15, 2012, 11:59:24 AM
Not sure but it might be BS to kill the thread. Odd no mention of accounts being reset.

where can I see my monthly limit?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on June 15, 2012, 12:20:49 PM
where can I see my monthly limit?
Go to "edit your account settings", and you will see the link there to "view my account limits"
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on June 15, 2012, 12:31:50 PM
Go to "edit your account settings", and you will see the link there to "view my account limits"
thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: rcarentals on June 15, 2012, 12:58:34 PM
i sent payments on the first of june just checked and it was reset!!!!
sent 499 and then 500 on 1 account both were instant
then i sent back 1000 - it was instant too. both withdrawels were initiated immediately!
AWESOME!!!!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on June 15, 2012, 01:03:24 PM
Thanx mods for deleting the stupid comment made earlier. Job well done!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on June 15, 2012, 01:05:24 PM
+100
Was a bad mistake. I feel sorry.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on June 15, 2012, 01:18:25 PM
+100
Was a bad mistake. I feel sorry.
You may be meshuga, but now I see you're a mentch, and in the end that's what matters.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on June 15, 2012, 06:37:59 PM
I love you.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on June 17, 2012, 01:01:08 AM
1 of my multiple accounts reset. It was the one which had the outgoing payment a few weeks ago, while the others were more recent. Perhaps they're resetting the accounts after x days. I'll check my others next week to see.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on June 17, 2012, 01:45:51 AM
Looks like all my accounts were reset.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 17, 2012, 01:52:23 AM
Looks like all my accounts were reset.
When did you make June's payments?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on June 17, 2012, 02:00:14 AM
When did you make June's payments?
Made payments from two accounts on the 3rd, both were reset. Made another small payment on the 8th from 3rd account, did not reset.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 17, 2012, 02:04:27 AM
Made payments from two accounts on the 3rd, both were reset. Made another small payment on the 8th from 3rd account, did not reset.
AJ26 stated the second reset was 6/3 so what you posted fits in. I am sure everyone will be making July's payments on the 1st just in case.  :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on June 17, 2012, 02:08:58 AM
I am sure everyone will be making July's payments on the 1st just in case.  :)
Yea, good idea! ;D
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on June 17, 2012, 10:11:51 AM
I had account payments on June 4th (afternoon) also reset.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lyla on June 17, 2012, 12:15:02 PM
Is there any way to set up to pay myself using CC to meet minimum spend requirement?
Also someone mentioned doing a lease payment using AP - Wouldn't Lexus not have to have an AP account to accept lease payment? I tried to have my Coop set up an AP account so that I could pay maintenance  but they refused to set up account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 17, 2012, 01:53:57 PM
Is there any way to set up to pay myself using CC to meet minimum spend requirement?

not sure what you had in mind but if you send money to yourself from say another account under your name with same ip address you are asking for trouble.

Best would be to ask someone else to send money to you from their account using your cc.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 17, 2012, 01:56:11 PM
Trying to decide if someone sends money to my wife under my wife's maiden name account if that in any lessens the risk if she sends them back from an account under her married name. Her social is linked to both.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: misterstuf on June 17, 2012, 07:33:05 PM
Has anyone had issues lately with Amazon Payments not getting to the confirmation screen for payments?
I am trying to send a payment and after I put in the recipient and the amount, it goes to a blank screen. This has happened on 3 different computers and 3 different browsers (yup, it's a NEW AND IMPROVED 3BM!) in the past week.
Is something wrong with the site? Or is it just my account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MnM1130 on June 17, 2012, 07:42:27 PM
wow.. good thing i came across this... i desp needed to send $$ this month and sent a feww 1000$ from my accounts- and now i can resend with all of them haha..
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: spetropo on June 19, 2012, 11:28:04 AM
Just got charged 10 fee for an Amazon Payment. Is this new? first time it happened.

Here is their reply to my SM to them:

I am writing in response to your inquiry about the $10.00
transaction fee on your account.

The transaction to Amazon dated 06/15/12 is listed as a
quasi cash transaction.

A quasi cash transaction is one that is similar to a cash
advance. Money transfers, money order purchases, gambling
transactions, and other transactions where cash is
accessed will be classified as quasi cash transactions.

Quasi cash transactions are subject to a 3% transaction
fee with a $10.00 minimum and no maximum. Also, they earn
interest on a daily basis and accrue interest from the
date they post to your account until paid in full.

The Annual Percentage Rate (APR) for cash on your account
is a variable rate of 19.24%, which is the minimum rate
for cash.

If you have any further questions, please reply using the
Secure Message Center.

Thank you,

Khyati Talati
E-mail Customer Service Representative
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on June 19, 2012, 11:50:27 AM
Which credit card (issuer) charged you the cash advance fee spetropo?   Any chance you selected cash advance instead of goods/services when you sent the payment?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card - Update
Post by: spetropo on June 19, 2012, 12:59:49 PM
It was Chase, I may have selcted that now that I thin of it.
S

Got a credit for the Fee :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 20, 2012, 01:53:09 PM
I have had several times a payment take up to 24 hours to process however to a new account a payment has just passed the 24 hour mark and is still not completed so wondering what to expect from here.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mercaz1 on June 20, 2012, 02:11:00 PM
i made one a few days ago and it still says pending. what should i be doing now?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 20, 2012, 02:17:40 PM
i made one a few days ago and it still says pending. what should i be doing now?
I guess we can wait together so far I am one day in.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on June 20, 2012, 02:21:55 PM
Same issue here.
After 24hr wait I got msg it failed, initiated again, waiting 36 hours.
Maybe we can have beer together?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 20, 2012, 02:33:22 PM
Same issue here.

Maybe we can have beer together?
I never say no to a good beer
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 21, 2012, 09:45:10 AM
Same issue here.
After 24hr wait I got msg it failed, initiated again, waiting 36 hours.
Maybe we can have beer together?
Mine just cleared after almost 48 hrs.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on June 21, 2012, 12:19:55 PM
Wonder if the reset had anything to do with them revamping the site? Got a (small) facelift recently and maybe they did some changes that for whatever reason, had them reset everyones limits...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 22, 2012, 01:19:33 AM
Here goes my story: About 2 weeks ago, I opened 2 AP accts one day after the other.  Everything seemed to go through pretty smooth.

Then, this Tuesday, I received an email re. one of my AP accts "In order to keep your Amazon Payments account active you will need to verify your account information...", which I promptly complied (I think they wanted my Social S# IIRC).
I then received an Email that verification is "in process".

Wednesday, I receive another email from AP (same acct) "Thank you for signing in to your Amazon Payments account and verifying your account information.  Unfortunately, we were unable to confirm the information you submitted."


To verify your account information:

        1. Sign in to your Amazon Payments account.
        2. Click the Edit My Account Settings link at the top of the page.
        3. Click Verify My Account Information and submit the requested information.

I did.

Again an email from A.P. - "Verification - In Process".

On wed. I also added a bank acct.

Then, yesterday - Thursday, I receive the following email  >:(

"Greetings from Amazon Payments:


We appreciate your use of Amazon Payments.  Unfortunately, we have been unable to confirm your account information.  This may be because you failed to respond to our past requests for more information or we could not confirm the additional information you gave us.

In either case, we are now required to restrict your Amazon Payments account features.

Please sign in to your account and contact us should you have any questions about our need to take this action.

- The Amazon Payments Team"

I signed in, and this is what I find:

Important Message:
Unfortunately, we have been unable to confirm your account information. This may be because you failed to respond to our past requests for more information or we could not verify the additional information you gave us. As a result, we have restricted some of the features of your Amazon Payments account. Click here to find out more about these restrictions.

In the link, this is what it says:

More about restricted accounts
Certain features of restricted Amazon Payments accounts are disabled.
See the table below for more information:

Withdraw funds from your account   Yes
Send money to another account   No
Receive money from another account   No
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What the &%#@ is going on here?  Anybody got this before?  Is it because I have 2 accts?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on June 22, 2012, 05:00:49 AM
Were the accounts not working before you gave them the info? I opened my accounts a while ago, and receive the email about entering info every few weeks, but I always ignore it.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 22, 2012, 05:13:47 AM
Were the accounts not working before you gave them the info? I opened my accounts a while ago, and receive the email about entering info every few weeks, but I always ignore it.
They were working, to some extent.

I sent someone money, I accepted money, I withdrew to my bank acct...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: presidentialplus on June 22, 2012, 08:46:18 AM
The bottom line: is using Amazon Payments a risk with Amex?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: momo on June 22, 2012, 09:19:57 AM
I have gotten this before no big deal they just want you to verify the last 4 digits of ur ss#
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mercaz1 on June 22, 2012, 10:25:55 AM
im still waiting for my payment to either go through or some explanaition about what is taking so long
its been 2 weeks now
im too scared to contact them because i dont want to be shut down but i may have to if nothing happens soon
anyone have any advice?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on June 22, 2012, 10:30:34 AM
The bottom line: is using Amazon Payments a risk with Amex?

The bottom line: you obviously havent read this thread.

The other bottom line: yes.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 22, 2012, 10:33:04 AM
im still waiting for my payment to either go through or some explanaition about what is taking so long
its been 2 weeks now
im too scared to contact them because i dont want to be shut down but i may have to if nothing happens soon
anyone have any advice?
just call them. My sister who I use AP with always calls when something does not go thru and has never had a prob. The reps that answer the phone do not seem to be part of the fraud dept though of course do not say anything silly.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mercaz1 on June 22, 2012, 10:36:41 AM
just call them. My sister who I use AP with always calls when something does not go thru and has never had a prob. The reps that answer the phone do not seem to be part of the fraud dept though of course do not say anything silly.
should i call from the sending account or from the receiving account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: presidentialplus on June 22, 2012, 10:43:35 AM
The bottom line: you obviously havent read this thread.

The other bottom line: yes.

So should amazon payments be used to meet spending req. for amex or not?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on June 22, 2012, 11:09:26 AM
So should amazon payments be used to meet spending req. for amex or not?

Are you being sarcastic?  :o
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 22, 2012, 11:11:25 AM
Are you being sarcastic?  :o
LOL! I don't think so.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on June 22, 2012, 11:13:50 AM
LOL! I don't think so.

<facepalm>
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: presidentialplus on June 22, 2012, 11:14:22 AM
Are you being sarcastic?  :o
Could you give me a straight answer yes or no?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 22, 2012, 11:16:11 AM
Could you give me a straight answer yes or no?
He already did and it was, yes.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: presidentialplus on June 22, 2012, 11:18:24 AM
He already did and it was, yes.
Should be used or should not be used?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: presidentialplus on June 22, 2012, 11:18:45 AM
This transaction could not be claimed. Please try again later or contact Customer Service for further assistance.

What does this mean?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on June 22, 2012, 11:20:57 AM
Wowza.

OK, here goes:

The bottom line: is using Amazon Payments a risk with Amex?

The other bottom line: yes.

It cannot get any clearer.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 22, 2012, 11:22:49 AM
This transaction could not be claimed. Please try again later or contact Customer Service for further assistance.

What does this mean?
Maybe something wrong with the account it is going to.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2012, 11:22:59 AM
I think 1K a month is relatively safe, but much more than that could be a red flag.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on June 22, 2012, 11:29:32 AM
I think 1K a month is relatively safe, but much more than that could be a red flag.

I, along with at least a few others on DDF, and a bunch more on FT have been mini-FR'd for using AP with AmEx; definitely not a good thing. (Note, I only used it for 1K/mo, perhaps even less, and the use was legitimate.)

If you want to use it, go right ahead, but people that choose to use it should understand the risk.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 22, 2012, 11:36:07 AM
The risk with using AP with Amex is more based on the individualís history with Amex. I would have to problem putting 10k with AP and accepting the perceived risk. If they had a 5-6% card I would be more than happy to test it. Also it would be no big deal if a FR came my way.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on June 22, 2012, 11:38:34 AM
The risk with using AP with Amex is more based on the individualís history with Amex. I would have to problem putting 10k with AP and accepting the perceived risk. If they had a 5-6% card I would be more than happy to test it. Also it would be no big deal if a FR came my way.

Operative factor bolded.

If one has sufficient income to pass an FR with flying rainbow colors, then he or she can do whatever they want (with the knowledge that if they wanted to, AmEx can assess CA fees for AP).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 22, 2012, 11:41:53 AM
The risk with using AP with Amex is more based on the individualís history with Amex. I would have to problem putting 10k with AP and accepting the perceived risk. If they had a 5-6% card I would be more than happy to test it. Also it would be no big deal if a FR came my way.
I should mention I base this on that a lot of DDF and FT members get FR's. Not so many for FWF members that I would guess are older members with longer credit history. Or I could just be blowing smoke!  ;D
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: smart brit on June 22, 2012, 02:28:07 PM
Operative factor bolded.

If one has sufficient income to pass an FR with flying rainbow colors, then he or she can do whatever they want (with the knowledge that if they wanted to, AmEx can assess CA fees for AP).
I wouldn't agree on that. I was fr'd and passed but was stranded abroad while it happened had a lot of trouble
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on June 22, 2012, 02:30:20 PM
I wouldn't agree on that. I was fr'd and passed but was stranded abroad while it happened had a lot of trouble

So, what exactly are you disagreeing with?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on June 22, 2012, 02:41:35 PM
So, what exactly are you disagreeing with?

. . .Thats its not okay to get fr'd just bec you'll be able to pass - it can be very inconvenient if it happens when overseas, etc.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on June 22, 2012, 02:57:50 PM
. . .Thats its not okay to get fr'd just bec you'll be able to pass - it can be very inconvenient if it happens when overseas, etc.

Uhm, forgive me, but being reckless RE: FR while out of the country and while need access to your AmEx credit is not what I was talking about.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on June 22, 2012, 03:27:22 PM
Uhm, forgive me, but being reckless RE: FR while out of the country and while need access to your AmEx credit is not what I was talking about.

I'll let smart brit explain himself. I can't explain his post any better then i already did.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: smart brit on June 22, 2012, 04:49:00 PM
Uhm, forgive me, but being reckless RE: FR while out of the country and while need access to your AmEx credit is not what I was talking about.
Hey BEING RECKLESS who said that? I was abroad and travel constantly and actually always call b4 to tell them that I'm traveling.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on June 23, 2012, 03:57:27 PM
I think 1K a month is relatively safe, but much more than that could be a red flag.

Based on....?

I tend to agree with HelpMe on this that if it is happening, it's more due to the credit history of the person than it is just AP, although I'm purely guessing. I think that the reports of F/R and AP may be more of a correlation than a causation.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on June 24, 2012, 01:53:35 AM
Hey BEING RECKLESS who said that? I was abroad and travel constantly and actually always call b4 to tell them that I'm traveling.

--look at topic of this thread.
--then look at context of my remarks.

Flow.of.conversation.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mercaz1 on June 25, 2012, 12:36:20 PM
my payment failed
have not had a chance to see why yet
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on June 25, 2012, 01:18:31 PM
my payment failed
have not had a chance to see why yet
Once they reset the balance this month I've notice many people saying that payments failed or showed pending for 3-4 days sometimes... Just try again...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: good sam on June 25, 2012, 11:45:34 PM
A friend of mine used his wife's credit card to transfer money to his wife's AP account.  He is now getting a message saying he is unable to claim the money. The credit card was charged. 

Any suggestions as to a course of action?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on June 25, 2012, 11:54:04 PM
A friend of mine used his wife's credit card to transfer money to his wife's AP account.  He is now getting a message saying he is unable to claim the money. The credit card was charged. 

Any suggestions as to a course of action?

Email them and tell them you can't claim it, they will reverse the charge back onto the credit card. I believe if you just wait it'll eventually reverse (not sure how long that'll take).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: scwam on June 26, 2012, 01:55:55 AM
30 days. On the 31st day it's posted back onto the account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on June 27, 2012, 04:52:52 PM
My limits reset again today (on 1 account)!!! Already did over $1800 on that account this month - can now add another $1K. Other accounts were not reset though. Anyone else have this?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on June 27, 2012, 05:07:21 PM
Darn, mine wasn't.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on June 28, 2012, 05:51:33 AM
A friend of mine used his wife's credit card to transfer money to his wife's AP account.  He is now getting a message saying he is unable to claim the money. The credit card was charged. 

Any suggestions as to a course of action?
I had the same issue with a new account. I just went to the sender's account and cancelled the payment
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on June 28, 2012, 01:46:47 PM
I've had some problems with new ap accounts just opened. I can't claim the payments. Anyone else have this?
All accounts have a legit social/address/person behind it
Got following note across top of account
"Unfortunately, we have been unable to confirm your account information. This may be because you failed to respond to our past requests for more information or we could not verify the additional information you gave us. As a result, we have restricted some of the features of your Amazon Payments account. Click here to find out more about these restrictions."

I'ts weird because they never requested more info
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on June 28, 2012, 01:50:29 PM
I'ts weird because they never requested more info

SSN?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on June 28, 2012, 02:18:52 PM
accnt was working fine and then went dead. I gave ssn when signed up
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: karen on June 28, 2012, 02:33:58 PM
My limits reset again today (on 1 account)!!! Already did over $1800 on that account this month - can now add another $1K. Other accounts were not reset though. Anyone else have this?
Just tried my account, it has been reset too. Maybe it is reset a few days earlier. ?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on June 28, 2012, 02:42:57 PM
I've had some problems with new ap accounts just opened. I can't claim the payments. Anyone else have this?
All accounts have a legit social/address/person behind it
Got following note across top of account
"Unfortunately, we have been unable to confirm your account information. This may be because you failed to respond to our past requests for more information or we could not verify the additional information you gave us. As a result, we have restricted some of the features of your Amazon Payments account. Click here to find out more about these restrictions."

I'ts weird because they never requested more info

Similar message but it said multiple account but there weren't any!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on June 28, 2012, 02:48:26 PM
Think it's worth just making a new account
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: karen on June 29, 2012, 02:36:21 PM
I am wondering whether I can create an amazon payment account for my daughter. Does anyone have experience?
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: A3 on June 29, 2012, 02:50:32 PM
The past day I have had my withdrawals fail a few times. Anyone else ever have this prob? I've tried it to two diff bank accounts and same thing.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: karen on June 29, 2012, 02:56:10 PM
The past day I have had my withdrawals fail a few times. Anyone else ever have this prob? I've tried it to two diff bank accounts and same thing.
I am able to do 3 withdraws between yesterday and today, no problem.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on June 30, 2012, 02:59:20 PM
The past day I have had my withdrawals fail a few times. Anyone else ever have this prob? I've tried it to two diff bank accounts and same thing.

I had that on Wed. I redid it on Thurs. and it went through.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on June 30, 2012, 03:13:23 PM
I've had some problems with new ap accounts just opened. I can't claim the payments. Anyone else have this?
All accounts have a legit social/address/person behind it
Got following note across top of account
"Unfortunately, we have been unable to confirm your account information. This may be because you failed to respond to our past requests for more information or we could not verify the additional information you gave us. As a result, we have restricted some of the features of your Amazon Payments account. Click here to find out more about these restrictions."

I'ts weird because they never requested more info
Happened to me. Perhaps their email went to your Spam, so you didn't see it. Ask them again to send you their questions.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 30, 2012, 10:49:52 PM
Make your payments as soon as you can in case the limits get reset again this month. All my accounts reset today.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on June 30, 2012, 11:02:03 PM
Make your payments as soon as you can in case the limits get reset again this month. All my accounts reset today.

when do they normally reset for the new month, 12 EST?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 30, 2012, 11:04:12 PM
when do they normally reset for the new month, 12 EST?
Not sure, never checked before. Mine reset somtime this afternoon.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on June 30, 2012, 11:05:11 PM
Not sure, never checked before. Mine reset somtime this afternoon.

I see that mine reset too, curious whether I'm getting to double dip this month or I'm already holding by July
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on June 30, 2012, 11:10:14 PM
I see that mine reset too, curious whether I'm getting to double dip this month or I'm already holding by July
I double dipped for June. Could this be a triple?  :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: schneury on July 09, 2012, 01:32:45 PM
so no luck in july ah?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on July 10, 2012, 02:54:51 PM
Greetings from Amazon Payments.

We are writing because it has come to our attention that you have opened multiple accounts.

Amazon TextPayMe and Amazon WebPay have a combined sending and receiving limit of $1000 per month per user. Multiple accounts opened to potentially enhance this limit will be closed.

All pending transactions have been canceled and your Amazon Payments accounts closed.

We appreciate your compliance with this matter and thank you for your interest in Amazon Payments.

Sincerely,

Account Specialist
Amazon Payments

No one to contact, I tried calling -they don't have access!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on July 10, 2012, 05:26:05 PM
Greetings from Amazon Payments.

We are writing because it has come to our attention that you have opened multiple accounts.

Amazon TextPayMe and Amazon WebPay have a combined sending and receiving limit of $1000 per month per user. Multiple accounts opened to potentially enhance this limit will be closed.

All pending transactions have been canceled and your Amazon Payments accounts closed.

We appreciate your compliance with this matter and thank you for your interest in Amazon Payments.

Sincerely,

Account Specialist
Amazon Payments

No one to contact, I tried calling -they don't have access!
How many accounts do you have?
Did you shuttle funds btw accounts?
Have you opened them recently?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on July 10, 2012, 05:36:07 PM
How many accounts do you have?
Did you shuttle funds btw accounts?
Have you opened them recently?
2 accounts, open 2nd recently, rarely used it.Never shuffled between accts. First acct is open for a year.

Did this ever happen to anyone?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on July 10, 2012, 06:20:57 PM
All pending transactions have been canceled and your Amazon Payments accounts closed.

IME they may not close all the multiple accounts so check if they left 1 open (probably the original).  And you might be able to try your luck re-opening another account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on July 10, 2012, 06:34:02 PM
IME they may not close all the multiple accounts so check if they left 1 open (probably the original).  And you might be able to try your luck re-opening another account.
I think they left the account that was opened recently, but this account is no good as it was opened recently and its making me enter the social, otherwise it will get shut
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on July 10, 2012, 06:49:33 PM
I think they left the account that was opened recently, but this account is no good as it was opened recently and its making me enter the social, otherwise it will get shut

Yeah it's alot harder to open new accounts these days without getting eventually flagged.  I have accts from years ago that are still operating without an SSN, have the same names/addresses, etc. even sending to each other all the darn time and never get flagged.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yoss6400 on July 10, 2012, 09:16:58 PM
Yeah it's alot harder to open new accounts these days without getting eventually flagged.  I have accts from years ago that are still operating without an SSN, have the same names/addresses, etc. even sending to each other all the darn time and never get flagged.
are you sending from one account and back to the other account? or only one way? i send one way i am scared to try to send back
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on July 10, 2012, 10:01:56 PM
are you sending from one account and back to the other account? or only one way? i send one way i am scared to try to send back

Yes, sending A to B and B to A for probably a year now with no problem.  Using same name and address on A and B, same computer, same IPs, I don't even bother jumping through hoops.   I believe that these old, established accounts sending to each other don't get scrutinized at all.    New accounts are another story.  From what I've seen it seems to be safe to receive on a new account, but the initial send gets scrutinized.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on July 11, 2012, 12:38:44 AM
Dear Moshiach1,

Thank you for contacting Amazon Payments.

After a review of your account by an account specialist, we have decided your account will remain blocked.

Thank you for your cooperation with our security measures.

Sincerely,

Account Specialist
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yitz on July 11, 2012, 09:15:20 AM
Yes, sending A to B and B to A for probably a year now with no problem.  Using same name and address on A and B, same computer, same IPs, I don't even bother jumping through hoops.   I believe that these old, established accounts sending to each other don't get scrutinized at all.    New accounts are another story.  From what I've seen it seems to be safe to receive on a new account, but the initial send gets scrutinized.
This works for me also. Doing this for over a year.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on July 13, 2012, 05:56:12 AM
Anyone else having trouble creating new accounts and using them right away?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on July 13, 2012, 09:05:37 AM
Anyone else having trouble creating new accounts and using them right away?
When you say using them right away you mean that the payments are taking longer to process?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on July 14, 2012, 02:42:02 PM
When you say using them right away you mean that the payments are taking longer to process?
No, as in I get an error and it won't let me continue on to the page to chose from where to send the money.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: zalmanb on July 15, 2012, 10:56:54 PM
Yes, sending A to B and B to A for probably a year now with no problem.  Using same name and address on A and B, same computer, same IPs, I don't even bother jumping through hoops.   I believe that these old, established accounts sending to each other don't get scrutinized at all.    New accounts are another story.  From what I've seen it seems to be safe to receive on a new account, but the initial send gets scrutinized.

I have 4 accounts and I send between all 4 (a-b b-c c-d d-a). have been doing it for a while and have not had a issue. if I am not mistaken I had to put in my ssn for a few accounts.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on July 16, 2012, 01:56:50 AM
I have 4 accounts and I send between all 4 (a-b b-c c-d d-a). have been doing it for a while and have not had a issue. if I am not mistaken I had to put in my ssn for a few accouts.
same ip?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on July 19, 2012, 01:39:21 PM
I just tried logging in to my AP account and I'm getting an error, it seems as if they have closed my account. I never received any communication from them or anything. Anyone have any advice what to do? I have about $80 still in there.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on July 20, 2012, 12:56:50 AM
You can try to email them. PM me if you need it
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: U-no-me! on July 20, 2012, 09:00:11 AM
Was trying to withdarw to a chase checking, got an email that it failed since bank didn't allow it to go through. Now the options available is to either add another bank accout or amazon GC. Anyone have this before?
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: A3 on July 20, 2012, 09:04:51 AM
Was trying to withdarw to a chase checking, got an email that it failed since bank didn't allow it to go through. Now the options available is to either add another bank accout or amazon GC. Anyone have this before?

Is your account verified?
It did happen to me when my account was on hold because it wast verified. I sent them an email saying how can they just it down my tenants use it to pay me etc. they opened it back up and haven't had a prob since....
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: U-no-me! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:24 AM
Is your account verified?
It did happen to me when my account was on hold because it wast verified. I sent them an email saying how can they just it down my tenants use it to pay me etc. they opened it back up and haven't had a prob since....

My account is verified. they blamed it on the bank.
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: A3 on July 20, 2012, 09:08:48 AM
My account is verified. they blamed it on the bank.

Oh ok. It happened to me they blamed it on the bank tried with chase and well Fargo. But my account wasnt verified. As soon as I got it verified it went through no prob.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: U-no-me! on July 20, 2012, 09:11:11 AM
Oh ok. It happened to me they blamed it on the bank tried with chase and well Fargo. But my account wasnt verified. As soon as I got it verified it went through no prob.

Interesting.. I tried to check to make sure I was verified, when I clicked on edit I got this
"You cannot change your tax identification information right now. The information you entered previously is still under review."
So maybe i'm not yet verified.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: U-no-me! on July 20, 2012, 09:16:27 AM
hmmm.. it seems that my bank account was unverified even though I have verified it in the past and have done withdrawels. Reverified my bank account and initiated the withdraw.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on July 20, 2012, 09:18:22 AM
Anyone know an email address to send an email to? I'm locked out of my account and have no way to contact them.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Jkhein on July 20, 2012, 09:25:38 AM
Anyone know an email address to send an email to? I'm locked out of my account and have no way to contact them.
look after your request above, someone made an offer to you.
You can try to email them. PM me if you need it
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Jkhein on July 20, 2012, 09:28:33 AM
An interesting thing, when you verify your accounts they ask you either for your bank "username and password" or they put in two deposits. Isnt this a major breach? Who are they to ask for this info? All I know is that my bank warns me all the time, never to give that info out to ANYONE.   
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on July 20, 2012, 09:30:27 AM
You have an other option to fax in a recent bank statement, its just to make it easier for you.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on July 20, 2012, 09:32:36 AM
look after your request above, someone made an offer to you.

I sent him a PM earlier, but he's not online now so I was asking if anyone else has any info.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Jkhein on July 20, 2012, 09:38:23 AM
I sent him a PM earlier, but he's not online now so I was asking if anyone else has any info.
I personally would set up a chat at Amazon, and ask them either to put the chat through to AP, or to give you an email address.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on July 20, 2012, 09:57:36 AM
I personally would set up a chat at Amazon, and ask them either to put the chat through to AP, or to give you an email address.

I was trying to figure out a way to contact them through amazon payments but couldn't do it without logging in, I didn't even think to go to regular cs. I just chatted with them and got nowhere so i sent an email we'll see what happens. Thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Jkhein on July 24, 2012, 12:21:53 PM
When in the month does it reset?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on July 24, 2012, 01:25:59 PM
When in the month does it reset?

At the end of the calendar month.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: karen on July 24, 2012, 04:00:01 PM
At the end of the calendar month.
It reset earlier last month, has it reset for anyone in July yet?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on July 30, 2012, 09:49:40 PM
Does anyone have any recent experience with adding the same cc to 2 separate accounts?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on July 30, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
Does anyone have any recent experience with adding the same cc to 2 separate accounts?
I did an AU (Same CC number, different name) on another account and that other account was shutdown. Not necessarily was this the reason why, but I would be weary of doing so just the same...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yoss6400 on July 30, 2012, 11:49:40 PM
Does anyone have any recent experience with adding the same cc to 2 separate accounts?
i did so for the last 2 months
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gunit770 on July 31, 2012, 09:52:59 PM
did anyone notice that the amounts reset for the new month? I see that my account limits reset and I was wondering if I make a transfer now will it reset again like people were reporting last month? or will it not reset again?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on July 31, 2012, 10:13:12 PM
did anyone notice that the amounts reset for the new month? I see that my account limits reset and I was wondering if I make a transfer now will it reset again like people were reporting last month? or will it not reset again?

Nope - some of us noticed it reset a day early last month as well so we sent payments on June 30, but those accounts did not reset again during July.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gunit770 on July 31, 2012, 10:43:47 PM
Nope - some of us noticed it reset a day early last month as well so we sent payments on June 30, but those accounts did not reset again during July.

Okay. Thanks. I sent $1K anyway just for kicks to see if it will reset (and because I would have sent it soon enough anyway).
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on August 01, 2012, 12:50:44 AM
Okay. Thanks. I sent $1K anyway just for kicks to see if it will reset (and because I would have sent it soon enough anyway).

Smart move IMHO.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on August 01, 2012, 12:57:20 AM
The reset seems to have happen because of a system upgrade. Not likely to happen again in the near future. With that being said all my transfers were done tonight. :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sruly101 on August 02, 2012, 09:11:21 AM
hi  i got this message:
Unfortunately, we have been unable to confirm your account information. This may be because you failed to respond to our past requests for more information or we could not verify the additional information you gave us. As a result, we have restricted some of the features of your Amazon Payments account. Click here to find out more about these restrictions.

and it wont let me send or receive money
is there anything to do to fix it?

2. cant find a phone number to contact them anyone has it?
thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on August 02, 2012, 09:15:38 AM
hi  i got this message:
Unfortunately, we have been unable to confirm your account information. This may be because you failed to respond to our past requests for more information or we could not verify the additional information you gave us. As a result, we have restricted some of the features of your Amazon Payments account. Click here to find out more about these restrictions.

and it wont let me send or receive money
is there anything to do to fix it?

2. cant find a phone number to contact them anyone has it?
thanks
contact us (https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/contact-us/ref=cu_si_noauth?ie=UTF8&mode=&nodeId=508510&skip=true&type=email)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on August 02, 2012, 01:38:44 PM
I somehow managed to get a gift card order through (9 or 10 blocked prior to this order). In order to purchase it though I did login to my American Express account and purchase it using my AMEX. Now for my questions...
 If I were to use the whole card via AP am I risking a FR from Amex? I know with standard cards it's a trigger but what about a gift card bought on the Amex card?
 Also is ordering AMEX GCs on an AMEX a trigger(I know this question probably belongs in F/R thread but for the sake of keeping my post count down :)  )? 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on August 02, 2012, 02:08:05 PM
If I were to use the whole card via AP am I risking a FR from Amex? I know with standard cards it's a trigger but what about a gift card bought on the Amex card?

I've been using standard cards for a while, and it hasn't been an issue. I think some ppl experienced correlation, and thought it was causation.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sruly101 on August 02, 2012, 03:22:50 PM
contact us (https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/contact-us/ref=cu_si_noauth?ie=UTF8&mode=&nodeId=508510&skip=true&type=email)
thanks, but this is amazon, not amazon payments! ::)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on August 02, 2012, 03:25:25 PM
After 200+ times of using AP correctly, I somehow accidentally just did the bank transfer option instead of the cc option. Problem is, its the same bank account on both accounts. Any suggestions what to do next?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on August 02, 2012, 03:25:54 PM
thanks, but this is amazon, not amazon payments! ::)
If you login to your amazon payments account click help and contact us, it'll give you a link to have them call you.

Now back to the issue at hand :) AMEX GCs bought on AMEX while logged in, risking FR if draining through AP or not? What if I register it in someone elses name?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on August 02, 2012, 03:27:15 PM
After 200+ times of using AP correctly
I need to figure out how to keep my "other accounts" open. Tips ;)?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on August 02, 2012, 03:36:53 PM
It probably helps that all my accounts are old, pre SS# days.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on August 02, 2012, 03:37:14 PM
thanks, but this is amazon, not amazon payments! ::)
Same thing.  ::)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on August 02, 2012, 03:37:23 PM
I need to figure out how to keep my "other accounts" open. Tips ;)?
You have more than one account ?!?!?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on August 02, 2012, 06:05:24 PM
You have more than one account ?!?!?
:)
Not anymore
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: zalmanb on August 03, 2012, 12:03:07 AM
You have more than one account ?!?!?
I have 4 accounts with AP and pay each other without any problem thus far. is there a reason I should worry?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on August 03, 2012, 12:38:46 AM
I have 4 accounts with AP and pay each other without any problem thus far. is there a reason I should worry?
Are they old account prior to when they started requesting SSN? If they are then don't fret about it...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: zalmanb on August 03, 2012, 01:10:43 AM
Are they old account prior to when they started requesting SSN? If they are then don't fret about it...
When did they start requesting SSN? I opened all AP accounts Nov 2011 however had 2 of them as regular amazon accounts for a couple years before hand.

In settings on AP I went to edit my SSN and it says:
"Error in Requested Operation
You cannot change your tax identification information right now. The information you entered previously is still under review."

tax id?? they are personal accounts...
 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on August 03, 2012, 01:13:52 AM
When did they start requesting SSN? I opened all AP accounts Nov 2011 however had 2 of them as regular amazon accounts for a couple years before hand.

In settings on AP I went to edit my SSN and it says:
"Error in Requested Operation
You cannot change your tax identification information right now. The information you entered previously is still under review."

tax id?? they are personal accounts...
 

All good signs IMHO. Yes they started asking for SSN sometime after that.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: zalmanb on August 03, 2012, 01:26:41 AM
All good signs IMHO. Yes they started asking for SSN sometime after that.
Thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on August 03, 2012, 11:05:12 AM
If I were to use the whole card via AP am I risking a FR from Amex? I know with standard cards it's a trigger but what about a gift card bought on the Amex card? 

I don't the the F/R team would bother (can?) check how you spent your GC.

I've been using standard cards for a while, and it hasn't been an issue. I think some ppl experienced correlation, and thought it was causation.

I would say it's in the causation category even if it isn't a trigger. Once an algorithm lands your file in the F/R department (for something else), the GC purchases will definitely work against you.

Now back to the issue at hand :) AMEX GCs bought on AMEX while logged in, risking FR if draining through AP or not? What if I register it in someone elses name?

Like I said, I think the F/R risk is in buying the GCs, once you've done that it's irrelevant (with regards to F/R) how you cash 'em out.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on August 03, 2012, 02:27:15 PM
Like I said, I think the F/R risk is in buying the GCs, once you've done that it's irrelevant (with regards to F/R) how you cash 'em out.
What if I had to go through a F/R just to get my card? Only about 8 months since I got it approved... you think they will F/R me all over??
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on August 03, 2012, 02:55:09 PM
What if I had to go through a F/R just to get my card? Only about 8 months since I got it approved... you think they will F/R me all over??

Passing an F/R is no guarantee of immunity, people here have gotten F/R'd 2-3 times in one year.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on August 03, 2012, 03:01:33 PM
Passing an F/R is no guarantee of immunity, people here have gotten F/R'd 2-3 times in one year.
Thanks for the tips...
Hardest card to get spending done on is my AMEX and those are the points I am looking to collect ATM. I was hoping the GCs with AP would be a good method but I guess not...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on August 03, 2012, 03:22:47 PM
Like I said, I think the F/R risk is in buying the GCs, once you've done that it's irrelevant (with regards to F/R) how you cash 'em out.

Wish that were true. I've read reports where people who were F/Rd as a result of GC/prepaid cards use abuse.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gozalim on August 03, 2012, 03:42:23 PM
Thanks for the tips...
Hardest card to get spending done on is my AMEX and those are the points I am looking to collect ATM. I was hoping the GCs with AP would be a good method but I guess not...
loading pass cards will not earn you points but will seemingly count towards spending thresholds
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on August 03, 2012, 04:24:26 PM
Wish that were true. I've read reports where people who were F/Rd as a result of GC/prepaid cards use abuse.
Even if registered under a different name? Seems crazy... like if in my business we give out GCs as an incentive, how can I be responsible for what my customers do thereafter??!!
loading pass cards will not earn you points but will seemingly count towards spending thresholds
ATM don't have any card I need to hit thresholds on, but looking for good ways to collect SPG points.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on August 03, 2012, 05:51:05 PM
Even if registered under a different name? Seems crazy... like if in my business we give out GCs as an incentive, how can I be responsible for what my customers do thereafter??!!
I know Amazon has a form you're supposed to sign before giving out GCs to your customers. Maybe Amex has something similar, which might offer a bit of protection for this.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: smiley face on August 03, 2012, 05:58:41 PM
Is it ok to pay with a cc (on your account) to an authorized user on your credit card (his account)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on August 03, 2012, 07:10:39 PM
Wish that were true. I've read reports where people who were F/Rd as a result of GC/prepaid cards use abuse.

They assumed, or that's specifically what the F/R reps told them?

Is it ok to pay with a cc (on your account) to an authorized user on your credit card (his account)

Via AP? I don't think Amex would know who you paid to, they'd only know you made a $x AP payment.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on August 04, 2012, 03:15:31 PM

I would say it's in the causation category even if it isn't a trigger. Once an algorithm lands your file in the F/R department (for something else), the GC purchases will definitely work against you.

I was referring to using AP, not buying gc's
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: vicky on August 04, 2012, 05:56:00 PM
Can you please provide more details how you do that?


Thanks

I have a great way to achieve free spending (and getting money back) via visa/mastercard.

The condition would be to change your billing address, to a non usa or israel address.
And have a non usa bank account, which isn't a big deal.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on August 04, 2012, 09:28:41 PM
They assumed, or that's specifically what the F/R reps told them?
+1
I wonder if they are able/willing to track it that far....
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: smiley face on August 05, 2012, 11:25:53 PM
Hi I was wondering if my mom sent me AP on a credit card that I am an AU is that a problem?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on August 05, 2012, 11:31:02 PM
Hi I was wondering if my mom sent me AP on a credit card that I am an AU is that a problem?
This isn't the same question you asked 5 posts before?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on August 05, 2012, 11:31:30 PM
That's a superb question, but no, its not a problem.
Good night, sleep tight.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: menachem on August 07, 2012, 08:32:48 PM
Is anyone interested in me transferring payment to you via amazon and you paying it back to me?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on August 07, 2012, 11:14:01 PM
Is anyone interested in me transferring payment to you via amazon and you paying it back to me?
:o
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on August 08, 2012, 08:03:10 AM
Anyone knows?
What happens if the recipient (who didn't set up his AP acc yet, and therefore have to 'claim' the $$) don't claim it and they return it after (30??) a few days, do they credit back my CC or my AP account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on August 08, 2012, 02:38:08 PM
Anyone knows?
What happens if the recipient (who didn't set up his AP acc yet, and therefore have to 'claim' the $$) don't claim it and they return it after (30??) a few days, do they credit back my CC or my AP account?
Usually the CC. However I had one messed up story where it didn't let me claim the payment, it then casually erased itself from the records as if it never charged his card at all. Problem was it showed up on the payer's account as successfully sent, and had billed his card.

I had to send screenshots of his account proving the payment actually happened, and then after few hours of phone calls and many frustrating emails, they finally agreed that there system screwed up. They reversed the charge back to his credit card.

They had wrongfully accused me many times of multiple accounts... they can be a royal pain sometimes...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on August 08, 2012, 06:46:45 PM
Yeah I'm now in.... They're a PITA....
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on August 27, 2012, 12:38:48 PM
My AP charges always came up as AMAZON PAYMENTS 866-749-7545. My most recent one came up as AMAZON.COM, INC. SEATTLE WA840. If Freedom ever offers another Amazon 5%, AP may actually work now. 
Title: meeting spend threshold thru Amazon Payments
Post by: dafyomi on August 27, 2012, 09:46:14 PM
Dan,

In your recent article, you mentioned meeting spend threshold thru Amazon Payments. you said can use credit card to put funds in "friends' bank account. Can you put it in your own bank account or in a spouses account?

Does it work only with credit card  or can it work with Visa Prepaid card also?
Title: Re: meeting spend threshold thru Amazon Payments
Post by: MarkS on August 27, 2012, 10:24:38 PM
Welcome to the Forums!
There's an extensive thread discussing Amazon Payments here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3524.0
Read up and if you still have questions post them there.
Title: Re: meeting spend threshold thru Amazon Payments
Post by: Lamdan on August 27, 2012, 10:57:42 PM
Also, this is not Dan's email inbox. It's a Forum, with many members.
Title: Re: meeting spend threshold thru Amazon Payments
Post by: JEWDA on August 27, 2012, 11:03:21 PM
Quote from: Lamdan link=topic=19592.msg291869#msg291869 date ;)=1346122662
Also, this is not Dan's email inbox. It's a Forum, with many members.
lol. Every comment on the main site has the word dan in it at least twice
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JamesIV on August 29, 2012, 02:48:20 AM
I know this has probably been discussed in the previous 70 pages but I can't find an answer in the search  :),
Am I able to make accounts for parents and siblings then transfer 1,000 monthly between them from a bunch of my own different credit cards?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fefferkorn on August 29, 2012, 03:31:19 AM
I just opened an Amazon Payments account and purposely entered the SSN with one number off...
Will this affect the usage of the account in any way?
Does this mean one can open up a bunch of bogus accounts with them and use them no problem?

PS. Sorry can't read through 70 pages it's 3:30am...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on August 29, 2012, 03:32:45 AM
PS. Sorry can't read through 70 pages it's 3:30am...
...then wait until the morning and start reading then.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Jkhein on August 29, 2012, 04:38:50 AM
...then wait until the morning and start reading then.
LOL
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on August 29, 2012, 08:38:08 AM
I know this has probably been discussed in the previous 70 pages but I can't find an answer in the search  :),
Am I able to make accounts for parents and siblings then transfer 1,000 monthly between them from a bunch of my own different credit cards?
Yes, it's worked for myself and many others.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Matovu on August 29, 2012, 10:13:15 AM
Can i use it with 2 different accounts in MY OWN NAME ?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on August 29, 2012, 10:27:37 AM
Can i use it with 2 different accounts in MY OWN NAME ?

Some have done that successfully but no guarantees
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fefferkorn on August 29, 2012, 10:49:56 AM
...then wait until the morning and start reading then.
Thanks you sir for the tip...
If you tell me the answer is on here I'll read through the whole thing today.
Can you assure me of that?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JamesIV on August 29, 2012, 11:29:14 AM
Yes, it's worked for myself and many others.
Thanks bro apreesh
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on August 29, 2012, 12:19:23 PM
Thanks bro apreesh
You're welcome, and welcome to DDF!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on August 29, 2012, 01:10:00 PM
I trouble creating ap accounts for some people. I submit all the info, and verified bank accounts but the "limits page" still shows $500 limit for not verifying bank accounts. But I have a verified bank account. It's weirder because I can't accept payments with the account but I can send them. When I send, it doesn't subtract from the $500 sending/recieving amount, but it does subtract from the $1,000 CC send/recieve amount.
THis has happened on 3 accounts so far,
Any ideas?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on August 29, 2012, 01:31:23 PM
Did you verify info/bank for all accounts or just yours?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on August 29, 2012, 04:56:46 PM
Yes, I did it with deposits and the account shows the banks are verified
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: menachem on August 29, 2012, 09:02:50 PM
make sure your checking the right email address associated with the account. . .
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fefferkorn on August 29, 2012, 10:39:27 PM
mini-FR'd
What's that?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamdan on August 29, 2012, 10:55:31 PM
I just opened an Amazon Payments account and purposely entered the SSN with one number off...
Will this affect the usage of the account in any way?
Does this mean one can open up a bunch of bogus accounts with them and use them no problem?

PS. Sorry can't read through 70 pages it's 3:30am...
Good question. Does anyone know the answer. I don't think it has been discussed b4 on this thread.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JamesIV on August 30, 2012, 01:20:48 AM
I trouble creating ap accounts for some people. I submit all the info, and verified bank accounts but the "limits page" still shows $500 limit for not verifying bank accounts. But I have a verified bank account. It's weirder because I can't accept payments with the account but I can send them. When I send, it doesn't subtract from the $500 sending/recieving amount, but it does subtract from the $1,000 CC send/recieve amount.
THis has happened on 3 accounts so far,
Any ideas?
I am having the same problem. Made an account, sent 1000, but when I try to send $ to the account it says: "Important Message:
The recipient cannot receive this payment. Please contact them to find out why."
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AsherO on August 30, 2012, 02:07:17 AM
I am having the same problem. Made an account, sent 1000, but when I try to send $ to the account it says: "Important Message:
The recipient cannot receive this payment. Please contact them to find out why."

Might have to do with limits. Acountholder might have to verify something (e.g. bank acct) to get to $1k monthly limit.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on August 30, 2012, 02:31:33 AM
I am having the same problem. Made an account, sent 1000, but when I try to send $ to the account it says: "Important Message:
The recipient cannot receive this payment. Please contact them to find out why."
I'm getting that same message for the last 3 weeks. I have $256 left to send before months end.

Might have to do with limits. Acountholder might have to verify something (e.g. bank acct) to get to $1k monthly limit.
I've been using the account for 2 months and no problems.  This month I already sent about $750 - and only then starting getting the error message.  :( (so I don't think limits is the issue )
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JamesIV on August 30, 2012, 11:26:12 AM
Might have to do with limits. Acountholder might have to verify something (e.g. bank acct) to get to $1k monthly limit.
The limits page showed that it could receive 1000.
But took your advice added a bank account, verified it, now all works :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: dirah on August 30, 2012, 09:03:57 PM
Haven't seen anything conclusive in this thread about transferring between significant others living at the same address.
Do I risk getting shut down if I do this?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JamesIV on August 30, 2012, 09:19:53 PM
Haven't seen anything conclusive in this thread about transferring between significant others living at the same address.
Do I risk getting shut down if I do this?

I know this has probably been discussed in the previous 70 pages but I can't find an answer in the search  :),
Am I able to make accounts for parents and siblings then transfer 1,000 monthly between them from a bunch of my own different credit cards?
Yes, it's worked for myself and many others.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fefferkorn on September 06, 2012, 01:47:23 PM
I just withdrew some funds from AP to my bank account (BofA).
Does anyone know how long it takes to actually hit the bank account?
On AP the status shows "Completed"...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yaalili on September 06, 2012, 02:53:56 PM
I just withdrew some funds from AP to my bank account (BofA).
Does anyone know how long it takes to actually hit the bank account?
On AP the status shows "Completed"...

For me, i withdraw to apple bank and it takes less than 24 hours.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fefferkorn on September 06, 2012, 02:54:42 PM
For me, i withdraw to apple bank and it takes less than 24 hours.
I did it last night after midnight... I guess I should expect it tomorrow...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on September 06, 2012, 02:56:01 PM
I just withdrew some funds from AP to my bank account (BofA).
BofA takes 2 days for me. Chase takes 1.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fefferkorn on September 06, 2012, 03:20:54 PM
BofA takes 2 days for me. Chase takes 1.
I did it last night after midnight... I guess I should expect it tomorrow...
Correction: I did it after midnight EST but they go by PST so it actually was still before midnight for AP.
So when you say 1 day or 2 days, is the cuttoff time midnight?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on September 06, 2012, 03:59:42 PM
Dunno, never paid such close attention, doesn't really matter to me.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 06, 2012, 04:10:27 PM
Dunno, never paid such close attention, doesn't really matter to me.
+100000000000000000000000000000000
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sal2011 on September 09, 2012, 02:40:52 AM
reading almost 57 pages of posts just on this topic it seems that after receiving money through ap you can have it added to ur bank acount (plz crct me if im wrong )and that is free but wen i checked out the websit tc on ap its says somethin bout$10  fee for withdrawel to bank account did i missunderstand (a nooobie mistake maybe?? :-\) :-X
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on September 09, 2012, 06:02:30 AM
reading almost 57 pages of posts just on this topic it seems that after receiving money through ap you can have it added to ur bank acount (plz crct me if im wrong )and that is free but wen i checked out the websit tc on ap its says somethin bout$10  fee for withdrawel to bank account did i missunderstand (a nooobie mistake maybe?? :-\) :-X
Never heard of it...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sal2011 on September 09, 2012, 09:07:56 AM
here i copied from there website
There are no fees charged for withdrawing funds from your Amazon Payments account, but there are minimum transfer amounts:
Minimum of $1.00 for Amazon.com Gift Certificate withdrawals
Minimum of $10.00 for bank account withdrawals
wat does that mean :-[
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sal2011 on September 09, 2012, 09:11:07 AM
https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/personal/webpay/faq#wpFee (https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/personal/webpay/faq#wpFee)
    here is the link were it says that
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on September 09, 2012, 09:23:06 AM
It just means that you can't withdraw less than $10 to a bank account at a time
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sal2011 on September 09, 2012, 10:00:30 AM
thanks now il try it ;D
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: compddd on September 09, 2012, 08:46:18 PM
Can I do AP with Citi cards?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 09, 2012, 08:47:18 PM
Can I do AP with Citi cards?
Yes.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sal2011 on September 10, 2012, 03:39:42 PM
someone just told me NEVER to close my first cc other wise it will mess up my credit.. wonderin if anyone else heard of this b4 and why would that be true??
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on September 10, 2012, 03:45:00 PM
i heared it before, but on another thread....
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on September 10, 2012, 03:47:52 PM
It's partially true.
Your oldest card determines the age of your credit report.
However even after you close it it won't stop counting for that purpose for 10 years, so if you have other cards that were opened at around that time it's nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on September 10, 2012, 03:49:22 PM
It's partially true.
Your oldest card determines the age of your credit report.
However even after you close it it won't stop counting for that purpose for 10 years, so if you have other cards that were opened at around that time it's nothing to worry about.
dont you think its adifference between a 10 year credit history and a 30yr old?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 10, 2012, 04:03:49 PM
dont you think its adifference between a 10 year credit history and a 30yr old?
Sure, 20 years. Whats your point?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on September 10, 2012, 04:11:21 PM
someone just told me NEVER to close my first cc other wise it will mess up my credit.. wonderin if anyone else heard of this b4 and why would that be true??

Just curious, what made you post this in this thread??
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on September 10, 2012, 05:17:04 PM
Just curious, what made you post this in this thread??
I think he's still looking for the search button
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sal2011 on September 10, 2012, 05:35:35 PM
I think he's still looking for the search button
:-[
+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on September 10, 2012, 06:05:04 PM
Sure, 20 years. Whats your point?
that even though closed accounts stay on the report for 10 years, its still not the best idea to close the oldest account, cuz after 10 years it'll be removed, and you wont reach your highest credit age possible.
got my point, grandpa?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on September 10, 2012, 06:12:37 PM
It's partially true.
Your oldest card determines the age of your credit report.
However even after you close it it won't stop counting for that purpose for 10 years, so if you have other cards that were opened at around that time it's nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on September 10, 2012, 06:16:39 PM

the more credit cards you have of that old age, the harder it'll be for new cards to affect and lower your average age of credit. no?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 10, 2012, 06:40:06 PM
that even though closed accounts stay on the report for 10 years, its still not the best idea to close the oldest account, cuz after 10 years it'll be removed, and you wont reach your highest credit age possible.
Since all you do is repeat what others say then try this one. At what AAoA will it no longer increase your FICO score?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on September 10, 2012, 06:44:05 PM
Its not always the FICO score that matters. You know.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 10, 2012, 06:46:46 PM
Its not always the FICO score that matters. You know.
Just say you don't know.  :P
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on September 10, 2012, 07:32:31 PM
I'll bite.

What is it?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 10, 2012, 07:33:55 PM
I'll bite.

What is it?
I don't know.  :-[
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on September 10, 2012, 07:53:57 PM
So, presumably, it may (as has been suggested pretty much everywhere) be better NOT to close one's oldest card, even if it doesn't fall off for 10 years... ya know with this whole *average* business :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 10, 2012, 07:57:14 PM
For what most do here it will not matter. If I have to take a guess I would say anything over 7 years AAoA will not increase your score.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on September 10, 2012, 08:47:25 PM
Most of the time CC issuers don't look on your FICO, (especially Chase), they view on your report, not score, as the score is only a mirror that reflects what your report says.
And even those who view your FICO, don't base their decision on that itself, they also review your report (for example, I just did an AMEX app for a friend who had. FICO of 760 but still got declined "because the problems they had with his report overweight the positive effect of his FICO" - Amex Rep and average age of credit was [one of] their concern).
So is this what you didn't know?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HarryPotterFan on September 10, 2012, 09:41:11 PM
Anyone have any experience with how US Bank Credit Cards treats Amazon payments?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: DoGo on September 10, 2012, 11:26:27 PM
@dan: can i send 1000 to my wifeís paypal account (under her maiden name).. And should she claim from same computer putting it into our account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on September 11, 2012, 01:37:57 AM
Anyone have any experience with how US Bank Credit Cards treats Amazon payments?
Set up zero cash advance should help just in case.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Smartypantz on September 11, 2012, 10:38:52 AM
Tried searching for this and did not see an answer......how do i make a payment from my credit to my bank account without using the same name on both??
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 11, 2012, 10:55:24 AM
Most of the time CC issuers don't look on your FICO,
The more you post the more you show how clueless you are when it comes to this subject. It is not your fault, most kids your age think they know everything.  :P
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on September 11, 2012, 11:05:33 AM
Do you really wnt me to show you in public all the posts you posted that shows how clueless you are?
You didn't have enough time in you 85 year of life to learn?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 11, 2012, 11:09:18 AM
Do you really wnt me to show you in public all the posts you posted that shows how clueless you are?
Sure go right ahead but do it in JS where all your posts should be.  ;D

Start with the Citi thread were you can transfer TYP's to airlines.   :P
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on September 11, 2012, 11:10:32 AM
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on September 11, 2012, 11:32:01 AM
Most of the time CC issuers don't look on your FICO, (especially Chase), they view on your report, not score...

They will use an automated score or decision which will use the same factors that go into you FICO score, although possibly weighed differently for their particular bank's risk model in giving you a credit card (vs some other bank giving you a mortgage or auto loan).   The factors that go into a FICO score are very relevant even if they don't use the exact FICO model.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on September 11, 2012, 11:52:13 AM
Not right.
If FICO doesn't make any difference between a 10yr old and a 30yr old age of credit, it might still make a difference when a lender look into your 'report' and see oh this guy has a history of 30 years!
Get my point?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on September 11, 2012, 12:03:48 PM
And to you, HelpMe, here you go:
The check will have his name on it.

I am waiting for the day you post something that is correct. Have you ever tried Chase billpay?

I now have a Chase billpay in front of me that has the name of the sender printed on it.
Need more?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Smartypantz on September 11, 2012, 12:46:59 PM
Tried searching for this and did not see an answer......how do i make a payment from my credit to my bank account without using the same name on both??

anyone?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on September 23, 2012, 01:47:00 PM
These guys are getting serious, i have a soft pull on my EX credit report from Amazon Payments!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Bettracker on September 23, 2012, 01:48:05 PM
These guys are getting serious, i have a soft pull on my EX credit report from Amazon Payments!

How is that?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on September 23, 2012, 01:52:46 PM
How is that?
eleborate your comments, please.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Bettracker on September 23, 2012, 01:55:36 PM
eleborate your comments, please.

How does Amazon Payments have a right to do a pull? your not applying for a CC or something. What exactly are you doing that is so questionable?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on September 23, 2012, 02:22:52 PM
How does Amazon Payments have a right to do a pull? your not applying for a CC or something. What exactly are you doing that is so questionable?
These guys are getting serious, i have a soft pull on my EX credit report from Amazon Payments!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on September 23, 2012, 02:28:45 PM
from my recent experience with them, I see they're getting damn sophisticated.
no monkey business anymore.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Bettracker on September 23, 2012, 02:37:49 PM
from my recent experience with them, I see they're getting damn sophisticated.
no monkey business anymore.

In what ways? Can you be more specific?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on September 23, 2012, 03:20:33 PM
from my recent experience with them, I see they're getting damn sophisticated.
no monkey business anymore.
+100
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on September 23, 2012, 06:33:42 PM
from my recent experience with them, I see they're getting damn sophisticated.
no monkey business anymore.
There you go again!  ::)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Rivky on October 14, 2012, 04:11:47 PM
Anyone have any experience with transfering $ to CitiBank? How long did it take you?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mod on October 14, 2012, 04:15:01 PM
Anyone have any experience with transfering $ to CitiBank? How long did it take you?

Next day. Last time I requested withdrawal on 10/4; money deposited into citi 10/5.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: compddd on October 14, 2012, 04:15:08 PM
Can I use AP for BofA and Barclays? How do they treat the charge?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on October 14, 2012, 04:53:12 PM
BofA = purchase.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: compddd on October 15, 2012, 01:09:23 PM
Thanks!

Anyone know what Barclays classifies it as?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yeki89 on October 15, 2012, 01:14:08 PM
do u send money from account A, and withdraw from account B on the same IP?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on October 15, 2012, 01:16:23 PM
Thanks!

Anyone know what Barclays classifies it as?
Purchase.
Is there any bank that categorizes it as a CA?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on October 15, 2012, 01:23:59 PM
do u send money from account A, and withdraw from account B on the same IP?
yes.
but dont worry, I have at least one account freeze each month.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on October 15, 2012, 01:25:01 PM
yes.
but dont worry, I have at least one account freeze each month.
I do it many times and never had an acount freeze.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on October 15, 2012, 01:26:48 PM
I do it many times and never had an acount freeze.
I'd assume youe accounts were all registered back in the old good days. right?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on October 15, 2012, 01:32:47 PM
I'd assume youe accounts were all registered back in the old good days. right?
When was the good old days? Since March.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on October 15, 2012, 01:41:03 PM
dont know an exact time, but lately, new accounts seems to be more under scrutiny.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on October 15, 2012, 01:54:09 PM
it's not so hard to explain if they freeze your account. "My friend/family was over at my house and I sent him the money"
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on October 15, 2012, 01:57:41 PM
it's not so hard to explain if they freeze your account. "My friend/family was over at my house and I sent him the money"
right, but sometime they're royal pitza to deal with.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: David S on October 15, 2012, 02:20:50 PM
There are different ways to disguise your IP address, which I believe are legal, but maybe a legal expert can comment.

You can download the Tor browser and activate it, which routes you through various IP addresses and is very easy to use. It's easily Googleable.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: compddd on October 15, 2012, 02:23:16 PM
do u send money from account A, and withdraw from account B on the same IP?

I send it to my fiancee, and then she just transfers it back to me via Quickpay.

but you guys are saying I can create another account under my name and do it?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on October 15, 2012, 02:25:45 PM
I send it to my fiancee, and then she just transfers it back to me via Quickpay.

but you guys are saying I can create another account under my name and do it?
no, we have wives for a reason.
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: A3 on October 15, 2012, 02:41:34 PM
I send it to my fiancee, and then she just transfers it back to me via Quickpay.

but you guys are saying I can create another account under my name and do it?

That's what I have been doing.
I've been using the same IP but different browsers.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 15, 2012, 03:01:57 PM
no, we have wives for a reason.
I guess that's the answer to all the singles out there asking why they should get married :))
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bem684 on October 15, 2012, 03:08:23 PM
what is Quickpay?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on October 15, 2012, 03:12:14 PM
what is Quickpay?
chase.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Bettracker on October 15, 2012, 03:37:43 PM
chase.

Is it like AP?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yeki89 on October 15, 2012, 03:58:29 PM
no, you can send money to another chase account using your CHECKING account
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Bettracker on October 15, 2012, 04:08:45 PM
no, you can send money to another chase account using your CHECKING account

Oh so no CC's are involved.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on October 15, 2012, 04:13:12 PM
no, you can send money to another chase account using your CHECKING account
Correct, although not specifically to/from a chase account - only one of the people need to have to have a chase account. (Either the sender or receiver) .
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Bettracker on October 15, 2012, 04:19:37 PM
Correct, although not specifically to/from a chase account - only one of the people need to have to have a chase account. (Either the sender or receiver) .

So then which bank would the other account come from?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on October 18, 2012, 08:48:24 AM
Sorry if this answer is found in the past 77 pages.. I remember when Amazon was a freedom category and AP didn't give 5x. What about Citi forward which regularly pays 5x for Amazon since it's a "book store"? I assume not but was curious.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on October 18, 2012, 06:17:18 PM
Sorry if this answer is found in the past 77 pages.. I remember when Amazon was a freedom category and AP didn't give 5x. What about Citi forward which regularly pays 5x for Amazon since it's a "book store"? I assume not but was curious.


I don't believe so.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: tuvz on October 29, 2012, 07:54:38 PM
Im trying to meet some thresholds on my new amex cards
can i make my brother (same surname) an AU on my spg and get him to send 1000 a month to someone else or myself..
Do i risk an FR from Amex or possibly any action from AP?
thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on October 30, 2012, 01:08:02 AM
Im trying to meet some thresholds on my new amex cards
can i make my brother (same surname) an AU on my spg and get him to send 1000 a month to someone else or myself..
Do i risk an FR from Amex or possibly any action from AP?
thanks
Amazon Payments is often viewed as a trigger for a Financial Review
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: jk2 on November 05, 2012, 10:45:15 AM
I used AP for many months and never had a problem. Today I did A-> B. On the last step I pressed "submit" and was redirected to the first step (where you select person and amount to send). I thought I did something wrong and repeated. Got the same redirection. I checked my account limits and see that it was decreased by amount I "sent". But nothing sent! Is it a sign of suspension or glitch?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: schneury on November 05, 2012, 11:24:43 AM
I used AP for many months and never had a problem. Today I did A-> B. On the last step I pressed "submit" and was redirected to the first step (where you select person and amount to send). I thought I did something wrong and repeated. Got the same redirection. I checked my account limits and see that it was decreased by amount I "sent". But nothing sent! Is it a sign of suspension or glitch?
I had the same thing on 2 accounts
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on November 05, 2012, 01:25:59 PM
this doesn't sound good... did you contact AP CS?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: schneury on November 05, 2012, 01:59:48 PM
No I don't want to cause any red flags, anyone else with this issue?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: jk2 on November 05, 2012, 02:23:56 PM
How long do you have this problem? I didn't do anything wrong - I sent money to different person.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: TC610 on November 05, 2012, 03:36:26 PM
I was able to send a payment about 20 minutes ago and had no problem.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on November 05, 2012, 03:55:42 PM
AP asked my sis for her bank stmt when she tried opening. Is this a new standard procedure?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Cbs on November 05, 2012, 04:02:13 PM
By sending $525 let's say on AP. Is that less of a chance of a trigger for f/r by Amex?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on November 05, 2012, 04:09:12 PM
By sending $525 let's say on AP. Is that less of a chance of a trigger for f/r by Amex?

Unless there is an AP employee lurking here, our input would simply be conjecture.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yoss6400 on November 05, 2012, 04:46:10 PM
i made a payment today with no problem B"H
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on November 06, 2012, 12:59:17 AM
No I don't want to cause any red flags, anyone else with this issue?
The transaction already happened.... I doubt it will cause further red flags by tell CS you are having issues with this particular transaction. If they are onto you already then it won't make a difference, and if they aren't, then have them fix the problem.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on November 15, 2012, 08:40:40 AM
anyone getting this when trying to sign in to their account? Does this mean it was shut down?

Quote
We're Sorry
An error occurred when we tried to process your request.

Rest assured, we're working to resolve the problem as soon as possible.

Please try your operation later. We apologize for the inconvenience.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: A European on November 15, 2012, 08:51:12 AM
@ bubbles
I got it last night .
it's something with Amazon system, don't worry.
Just try again.
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on November 15, 2012, 08:52:15 AM
That's what I figured but I unloaded a bunch of gc's last night so was getting a drop nervous. Thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 15, 2012, 09:46:48 AM
anyone getting this when trying to sign in to their account? Does this mean it was shut down?

+1

Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: A3 on November 15, 2012, 11:51:50 AM
When a payment account gets shut down. Do they shut down all your amazon accounts?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Mocha on November 15, 2012, 01:45:15 PM
For some reason one of my Visa gift cards did not work on the first attempt of when I tried unloading it but it did work on the second attempt. But even though that attempt was failed it Stilke seems to have counted in my $1000 limit, because when I tried unloading my last card I got an error saying that this recipient can no longer receive this payment. Anyway around this?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on November 15, 2012, 01:46:32 PM
For some reason one of my Visa gift cards did not work on the first attempt of when I tried unloading it but it did work on the second attempt. But even though that attempt was failed it Stilke seems to have counted in my $1000 limit, because when I tried unloading my last card I got an error saying that this recipient can no longer receive this payment. Anyway around this?
Happened to me yesterday. I waited a little and signed back in and it allowed me.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 15, 2012, 01:48:42 PM
anyone getting this when trying to sign in to their account? Does this mean it was shut down?

it happned to me this morning and started working again
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on November 15, 2012, 01:49:03 PM
It looks like AP is getting hammered from the staples gc deal. should be back to normal in another week and a half  :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on November 15, 2012, 05:59:07 PM
When a payment account gets shut down. Do they shut down all your amazon accounts?
Not usually...
Title: EARN POINT WITH AMAZON PAYMENTS
Post by: EE4504 on November 15, 2012, 11:29:48 PM
I MADE A TRANSFER TO FROM AMAZON A TO  AMAZON B ACCOUNT WHICH WAS COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY.  AFTER THAT I MADE A TRANSFER BACK FROM B TO AMAZON A AND IT SAID ITS PENDING FOR FURTHER REVIEW....

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN.... ?
Title: Re: Re: EARN POINT WITH AMAZON PAYMENTS
Post by: sky121 on November 15, 2012, 11:30:50 PM
I MADE A TRANSFER TO FROM AMAZON A TO  AMAZON B ACCOUNT WHICH WAS COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY.  AFTER THAT I MADE A TRANSFER BACK FROM B TO AMAZON A AND IT SAID ITS PENDING FOR FURTHER REVIEW....

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN.... ?

How did you make a transfer back?

In general that's not recommended.
Title: Re: EARN POINT WITH AMAZON PAYMENTS
Post by: EE4504 on November 15, 2012, 11:31:36 PM
regular transfer.. logged on to account b and requested to send money...
Title: Re: EARN POINT WITH AMAZON PAYMENTS
Post by: Yaalili on November 15, 2012, 11:32:22 PM
I MADE A TRANSFER TO FROM AMAZON A TO  AMAZON B ACCOUNT WHICH WAS COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY.  AFTER THAT I MADE A TRANSFER BACK FROM B TO AMAZON A AND IT SAID ITS PENDING FOR FURTHER REVIEW....

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN.... ?

What are u screaming about? Make turn off the caps lock.

(Mods, please combine this in the ap master thread.)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: EE4504 on November 16, 2012, 10:07:26 AM
should i call amazon about it?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on November 16, 2012, 10:19:18 AM
Not yet. Give it 24 hours.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: EE4504 on November 16, 2012, 10:35:43 AM
once i receive the money into the amazon account b .. and transfer it to my chase checking account , will chase charge me a wire transfer fee?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 16, 2012, 10:54:23 AM
once i receive the money into the amazon account b .. and transfer it to my chase checking account , will chase charge me a wire transfer fee?
NO

Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Jkhein on November 17, 2012, 04:07:11 PM
What are triggers for AP to catch that two accounts are from the same person?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on November 17, 2012, 06:30:51 PM
What are triggers for AP to catch that two accounts are from the same person?
From what I've heard, IP Addresses, same CC on both accounts, possibly the same last names on both accounts... but there might be more...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Jkhein on November 18, 2012, 01:24:06 AM
From what I've heard, IP Addresses, same CC on both accounts, possibly the same last names on both accounts... but there might be more...
thanks. Anybody know if same checking account is ok, (for legit accounts)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on November 18, 2012, 07:05:09 AM
thanks. Anybody know if same checking account is ok, (for legit accounts)
Very likely an issue IMHO
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 18, 2012, 10:26:29 AM
with AP can i load up my BB card? even both are my accounts?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 19, 2012, 12:16:09 PM
Anyone know to load gc into AP do i need a bank account setup in AP ? Also after i load that in can i fund it to my BB card? And how? Thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on November 19, 2012, 03:05:34 PM
Anyone know to load gc into AP do i need a bank account setup in AP ? Also after i load that in can i fund it to my BB card? And how? Thanks
Can't load GC, unless its a visa, mc ect. GC.
You don't load it to the account, just add the card as a payment option and pay someone using it.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 19, 2012, 06:39:07 PM
Can't load GC, unless its a visa, mc ect. GC.
You don't load it to the account, just add the card as a payment option and pay someone using it.
I meant visa gc of course, how do I fill BB from AP ? thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 20, 2012, 09:42:12 AM
Anyone had success loading BB card at walmart with CC ?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on November 20, 2012, 09:04:13 PM
I have a friend who made a new account for Amazon Payments, and he has activated/verified his email address, linked a bank account, and added a credit card, yet, his Total Monthly Limits still show $500 where as my account where I have done the same things shows "Unlimited". 

for some reason one of my new accounts just went from unlimited to $500. any explanations?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on November 20, 2012, 11:37:44 PM
for some reason one of my new accounts just went from unlimited to $500. any explanations?

so it's still showing the decreased limits
Quote
Your Amazon Payments Account currently has the following limits:
    Total Monthly Limit   Remaining Monthly Limit
Receiving    $500.00 USD    $500.00 USD
Sending    $500.00 USD    $500.00 USD

The following additional limits apply for Send Money transactions initiated with credit cards:
    Total Monthly Limit   Remaining Monthly Limit
Receiving    $ 1000.00 USD    $ 867.46 USD
Sending    $ 1000.00 USD    $ 1000.00 USD

and now when I sent a payment to the account it is asking me to claim the payment in order to receive it. But when I click claim payment it says
Quote
Important Message:
This incoming payment is funded by a credit card. You must add a credit card to receive a credit card payment. Click here to add a credit card.

Only issue is that there are already cc's linked to this account.

Any help would be greatly appreciated
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on November 21, 2012, 08:41:05 AM
Do you have a bank account linked?
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on November 21, 2012, 08:44:05 AM
Do you have a bank account linked?

Yeah. Verified email. Verified bank account. Added cc. Pretty sure the limits had gone up to the usual unlimited before going back down
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on November 21, 2012, 08:46:14 AM
So call.
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on November 21, 2012, 08:47:44 AM
So call.

Just don't know if it's worth the risk of them noticing all the other accounts...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on November 21, 2012, 08:53:26 AM
I wouldn't worry.
Been there, done that.
The reps who pick up the phones when you call aren't the decision makers, they just read the notes.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on November 21, 2012, 08:54:59 AM
I wouldn't worry.
Been there, done that.
The reps who pick up the phones when you call aren't the decision makers, they just read the notes.

okay thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 21, 2012, 10:02:00 AM
So call.
I would wait a day or two and see if it clears up.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on November 22, 2012, 01:56:18 AM
I have read a number of pages any one know if I can use an amex premier rewards card and a has advantage card with ap . What is the limit I can deposit in to ap I think it's 1k but not 100 % sure . Also if I have authorized user will this spending limit and receiving limit work on those cards as well on how does it effect my ap account? Bare with me here im a newb
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 22, 2012, 02:41:06 AM
I have read a number of pages any one know if I can use an amex premier rewards card and a has advantage card with ap . What is the limit I can deposit in to ap I think it's 1k but not 100 % sure . Also if I have authorized user will this spending limit and receiving limit work on those cards as well on how does it effect my ap account? Bare with me here im a newb

I wouldnt advise to use amex on AP cuz its a common trigger for FR

Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on November 22, 2012, 03:47:04 AM
I saw quite a few posts about amex I want to confirm this with  other users here . Any thought on a credit card from us bank .
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 22, 2012, 12:11:30 PM
I tried loading a Visa gc onto AP so i went to add funds send with a cc entered the gc numbers and different date it said ok I dont see where i can change the exp date now? and don't see the money in the account, any advice please thanks.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 22, 2012, 08:23:47 PM
This is WEIRD I sent 995 to my dad AP from a business bold chase. instead of account holder name I put business name (its a extra ap account) the transaction went through, he got the money and its almost in his back account {almost cleared}.
Thing is that there is NO record of the transaction on my chase account! last night it said "AP pending $0(?!)- now its nothing---
Did I just make a grand outta thin air or am I about to be AA FR and shut down???
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on November 22, 2012, 08:27:02 PM
This is WEIRD I sent 995 to my dad AP from a business bold chase. instead of account holder name I put business name (its a extra ap account) the transaction went through, he got the money and its almost in his back account {almost cleared}.
Thing is that there is NO record of the transaction on my chase account! last night it said "AP pending $0(?!)- now its nothing---
Did I just make a grand outta thin air or am I about to be AA FR and shut down???

neither, I have found that transactions on my chase business accounts disappear for a few days between pending and being posted
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 22, 2012, 08:29:29 PM
I tried loading a Visa gc onto AP so i went to add funds send with a cc entered the gc numbers and different date it said ok I dont see where i can change the exp date now? and don't see the money in the account, any advice please thanks.
The same page you added the GC you can now edit the card.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 22, 2012, 08:32:02 PM
neither, I have found that transactions on my chase business accounts disappear for a few days between pending and being posted
   ok, strange..
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on November 22, 2012, 08:53:50 PM
Unfortunately, its not so strange...
Annoying Chase bug.
Last week I almost spent the minimum spend on the IB for a second time.... Till I noticed something doesn't match with my available credit.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 22, 2012, 09:02:39 PM
The same page you added the GC you can now edit the card.
oh this is soo complicated I do not see anything in my account guess didnt go thru, i was told to go to Send money and where it asks if i wanna send with credit card that's where i should enter it now I do not see that anymore doesnt give me that same option anymore, can anyone plz tell me how i load up into AP my visa GC ? dont see anyway how to do it, thanks.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on November 22, 2012, 09:05:54 PM
neither, I have found that transactions on my chase business accounts disappear for a few days between pending and being posted
+1
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 22, 2012, 09:08:23 PM
Is it ok if I call amazon and ask them how to upload it or that is a no no?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on November 22, 2012, 09:20:55 PM
@lifetimedeals
Your making this way more complicated than it is.

AP is a payment service.  You add a form of payment to your profile. (E.g. cc, dc, chkng acct)

You then pay someone else by sending money to their AP account.

You don't upload money to your AP account - there's no such thing.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 22, 2012, 10:14:32 PM
@lifetimedeals
Your making this way more complicated than it is.

AP is a payment service.  You add a form of payment to your profile. (E.g. cc, dc, chkng acct)

You then pay someone else by sending money to their AP account.

You don't upload money to your AP account - there's no such thing.
@ saver2000 thanks for ur time all I wanna do is add the money from my visa gc into my AP account and then transfer to my BB account unless your telling me i can't do it, I dont see anywhere to add payment from cc only add checking account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 22, 2012, 10:19:34 PM
add a CREDIT CARD  to profile then pay away
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 22, 2012, 10:24:19 PM
@ saver2000 thanks for ur time all I wanna do is add the money from my visa gc into my AP account and then transfer to my BB account unless your telling me i can't do it, I dont see anywhere to add payment from cc only add checking account.

Your missing the point. You can't add money from your cc to AP account. You can send money to somebody using the cc to fund the money. Don't call AP!!!!!! 
Also you can't send money to a BB account only to another AP account. 

Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: moko on November 23, 2012, 10:09:26 AM
u can add via checking acct. but that would sort of defeat the purpose- oh wait there are actually people who genuinely use as a payment service ::)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 23, 2012, 10:14:46 AM
Your missing the point. You can't add money from your cc to AP account. You can send money to somebody using the cc to fund the money. Don't call AP!!!!!! 
Also you can't send money to a BB account only to another AP account.
And why can't I send from AP to BB? isnt BB like a checking account where you pay your bills from there?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 23, 2012, 10:16:58 AM
Your missing the point. You can't add money from your cc to AP account. You can send money to somebody using the cc to fund the money. Don't call AP!!!!!! 
Also you can't send money to a BB account only to another AP account.
Ok so fine so I don't even see where I can send my money from my visa gift card to a friend it only asks me to add checking don't see anywhere how to fund with CC
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: A3 on November 23, 2012, 10:18:56 AM
Ok so fine so I don't even see where I can send my money from my visa gift card to a friend it only asks me to add checking don't see anywhere how to fund with CC

go to account setting. edit credit cards, add your card, go to send money, choose credit card, choose who you are sending it to, choose amount, click send.. am I missing any steps?
If this game is not for you, better stay away.

Go to payments.amazon.com sign into your account and just click on all the options. browse the site a little.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sguitarist18 on November 25, 2012, 07:57:03 AM
After some searching, reading through 30 or so pages of this thread, and trying to use google search for the forum as well, I haven't found an answer to this, so:

From what I understand, AP will allow up to $1000 ($500 x 2) a month in payments toward my rent - but will Chase allow that as a charge, or if they investigate, would they consider that a cash advance, and if so, what happens at that point?
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: A3 on November 25, 2012, 08:01:23 AM
After some searching, reading through 30 or so pages of this thread, and trying to use google search for the forum as well, I haven't found an answer to this, so:

From what I understand, AP will allow up to $1000 ($500 x 2) a month in payments toward my rent - but will Chase allow that as a charge, or if they investigate, would they consider that a cash advance, and if so, what happens at that point?

You can send 1x $1000 no problem either. When you send it, make sure to click on the "for goods/service" option and not on the "cash advance" option. You will then have zero issues with Chase.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sguitarist18 on November 25, 2012, 08:16:03 AM
That's what I've been doing - I'm just wondering, since a lot of people have said that using AP can trigger a FR, if they'll want to know more about it, and upon investigation, if they'd consider it a cash advance if they knew about it.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 25, 2012, 08:36:37 AM
Ok so fine so I don't even see where I can send my money from my visa gift card to a friend it only asks me to add checking don't see anywhere how to fund with CC

I just did some researched. I opened a AP account for my friend and I tried cashing out some GC and when I try to send it. Its giving me an error message. So I tried to send $ to his account and its telling me since he's not registered he needs to accept the payment within 30 days or else the payment will get canceled. So basically you need to get registered so I googled it and there should be a notification button someone that you can accept the payment but I can't find it for the life of me. And I definitely can't find anywhere to register.


 @lifetimedeals - did you recentely open the account?

Anyone want to chime on this. 

Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 25, 2012, 10:56:16 AM
you made an error somewhere, a typo or something, go back and start again
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 25, 2012, 11:20:04 AM
you made an error somewhere, a typo or something, go back and start again

Start what again? I tried 100Xs to send the money from the new account + when I sent $to the new account it gave me a message about the unregister thing
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on November 25, 2012, 12:12:34 PM
Start what again? I tried 100Xs to send the money from the new account + when I sent $to the new account it gave me a message about the unregister thing
So either his account his blocked or your trying to send more then $500 from an account w/out bank account/CC linked (which pushes limits to 1k) or he hasn't added a Bank account/CC or verified his account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sguitarist18 on November 25, 2012, 01:54:14 PM
Sorry to bump this, but I want to make sure I know how this might hit me:

After some searching, reading through 30 or so pages of this thread, and trying to use google search for the forum as well, I haven't found an answer to this, so:

From what I understand, AP will allow up to $1000 ($500 x 2) a month in payments toward my rent - but will Chase allow that as a charge, or if they investigate, would they consider that a cash advance, and if so, what happens at that point?

You can send 1x $1000 no problem either. When you send it, make sure to click on the "for goods/service" option and not on the "cash advance" option. You will then have zero issues with Chase.

That's what I've been doing - I'm just wondering, since a lot of people have said that using AP can trigger a FR, if they'll want to know more about it, and upon investigation, if they'd consider it a cash advance if they knew about it.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 25, 2012, 11:55:28 PM
So it seems that there are different opinions on how risky it is to open 2 AP accounts with the same SSN.  Has anyone done it and had a problem?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on November 26, 2012, 12:02:37 AM
So it seems that there are different opinions on how risky it is to open 2 AP accounts with the same SSN.  Has anyone done it and had a problem?
Yes and almost guaranteed to have one (or both) shut down.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 26, 2012, 12:03:50 AM
I guess I'll just wait till Shabbos when the limits reset to cash out the GCs.

Any other ideas on how to cash out GCs besides AP?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: asks on November 26, 2012, 11:57:04 AM
Is there a list of any GC's will work for AP as goods/services?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on November 26, 2012, 02:11:49 PM
so it's still showing the decreased limits
and now when I sent a payment to the account it is asking me to claim the payment in order to receive it. But when I click claim payment it says
Only issue is that there are already cc's linked to this account.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

okay got it to work by adding another cc, I think the problem was that there address was a mistake on the address on the first cc I had added
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: wierdal832 on November 26, 2012, 02:37:42 PM
can i open a few accounts in a few dif names, say my brothers and sisters names.. this way i can do 4-5k a month 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 26, 2012, 02:43:55 PM
I don't see why not, but you'd need their SSNs and bank account info.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: wierdal832 on November 26, 2012, 02:46:30 PM
I don't see why not, but you'd need their SSNs and bank account info.

what if i use thier ss numbers, and put down my bank, can i have a few account under dif names, but all under my bank account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 26, 2012, 02:47:41 PM
I wouldn't risk it.  Just link them to different bank accounts that you have, or open more if you only have one.
Title: Amazon Payments Question
Post by: newdanfan on November 29, 2012, 12:00:20 AM
I have been using Amazon Payments, sending $1,000/month to a friend in order to hit spending threshold.  I heard a rumor that someone receives more than a certain amount of payments a year (20K or the like), that person will receive a tax form for the money received for goods and services.  Can anyone confirm if this rumor is true?  If so, what is the minimum one has to accept on Amazon payments which will cause a tax form to be sent out to you?
Title: Re: Amazon Payments Question
Post by: AsherO on November 29, 2012, 12:17:35 AM
I have been using Amazon Payments, sending $1,000/month to a friend in order to hit spending threshold.  I heard a rumor that someone receives more than a certain amount of payments a year (20K or the like), that person will receive a tax form for the money received for goods and services.  Can anyone confirm if this rumor is true?  If so, what is the minimum one has to accept on Amazon payments which will cause a tax form to be sent out to you?

$20k and 200 transactions. And, not or, so much be both $20k and 200 trans.

$1k a month is less than $20k a year, so you're safe in that regard.
Title: Re: Amazon Payments Question
Post by: newdanfan on November 29, 2012, 12:26:55 AM
$20k and 200 transactions. And, not or, so much be both $20k and 200 trans.

$1k a month is less than $20k a year, so you're safe in that regard.

Thank you, such a simple answer! :)
Title: Re: Amazon Payments Question
Post by: AsherO on November 29, 2012, 12:34:01 AM
Thank you, such a simple answer! :)

Simple people give simple answers :D
Title: Re: Amazon Payments Question
Post by: Yeki89 on November 29, 2012, 07:47:02 AM
in the future please use the dedic@ed AP thread
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: pianodude on November 30, 2012, 09:19:40 AM
I have a couple $500 Visa gift cards I am not using elsewhere. Through AP, can I pay someone else using those gift cards?  And then that person can move those funds to their bank?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 30, 2012, 09:23:24 AM
Yup, that how it works.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: pianodude on November 30, 2012, 09:36:48 AM
Yup, that how it works.

Do I need to "register" those Visa Gift cards to my name first before paying with AP?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on November 30, 2012, 09:45:34 AM
read the thread, this has been fully explained
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 30, 2012, 11:10:10 AM
No, sorry just do use them as is.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmulyg on December 02, 2012, 09:41:39 PM
Regarding pre-paid/gift cards, I remember Dan saying something about first putting in the wrong expiration date. Can anyone elaborate on that? (i got some pre-paids and gift cards sitting around that i would like to cash out)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on December 02, 2012, 09:51:13 PM
About pre-paid/gift card, I remember Dan HelpMe saying something about first putting in the wrong expiration date. Can anyone elaborate on that? (i got some pre-paids and gift cards sitting around that i would like to cash out)

Thanks!
FTFY
...והאומר דבר בשם אומרו כאילו.....
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on December 02, 2012, 09:51:37 PM
For MC, I never had a problem putting the correct exp. date to begin with.

For Visa I didn't want to take a chance.  This is how I did it:

When entering the CC #, first enter the incorrect exp date then click save.  Once you're on the page with all your CCs, just 'edit' the card you just added to the correct exp date.  Go back to 'send money' and select this card from the list.
Title: Re: Amazon Payments Question
Post by: HelpMe on December 02, 2012, 10:25:20 PM
Thank you, such a simple answer! :)
...but it is not that simple.  :)  That is when they must report but they are allowed to report lesser amounts.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 02, 2012, 10:29:32 PM
Regarding pre-paid/gift cards, I remember Dan saying something about first putting in the wrong expiration date. Can anyone elaborate on that? (i got some pre-paids and gift cards sitting around that i would like to cash out)

Thanks!
Put in the wrong date when entering the info and then go back and edit to the correct date. This way no temp charge will be on the card so the full amount can be used right away.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmulyg on December 02, 2012, 11:48:53 PM
FTFY
...והאומר דבר בשם אומרו כאילו.....

I don't recall a כאילו in that adage.  ;)
I'm referring to Dan writing about it on the main site. My sincere apologies if it originates from someone else.

For MC, I never had a problem putting the correct exp. date to begin with.

For Visa I didn't want to take a chance.  This is how I did it:

When entering the CC #, first enter the incorrect exp date then click save.  Once you're on the page with all your CCs, just 'edit' the card you just added to the correct exp date.  Go back to 'send money' and select this card from the list.

Thanks for the detailed response!

Put in the wrong date when entering the info and then go back and edit to the correct date. This way no temp charge will be on the card so the full amount can be used right away.

Thanks!

Title: Amazon payment - issues
Post by: EE4504 on December 03, 2012, 08:33:57 AM
i am having a problem with my amazon payment account. when i established an amazon payment account to increase spending on my credit card i used my nickname and mixed up my first few digit of my social sec. the first few transaction worked. i was able to send and receive and even withdraw money into my account. but now however it stopped and i have a credit of $1000 and it doesn't allow me to withdraw the money into my bank account i could only get with it an Amazon gift card.

Need some help to resolve this issues to withdraw my money....
Title: Re: Amazon payment - issues
Post by: joeb1 on December 03, 2012, 08:35:56 AM
Putpac
Title: Re: Amazon payment - issues
Post by: EE4504 on December 03, 2012, 10:22:05 AM
what does putpac mean?
Title: Re: Re: Amazon payment - issues
Post by: elikay on December 03, 2012, 10:28:53 AM
what does putpac mean?
GIYF :)
Title: Re: Amazon payment - issues
Post by: Saver2000 on December 03, 2012, 10:31:00 AM
what does putpac mean?
http://wiki.dansdeals.com/Acronyms
Title: Re: Amazon payment - issues
Post by: A3 on December 03, 2012, 11:29:28 AM
Send them an email, how you are relying on amazon payments for work, to pay clients and to receive payments, and that why are you already having difficulties and you are not happy with them, can they please fix your account.

This method worked for me, and my account was back up and running the next morning.
Title: Re: Amazon payment - issues
Post by: EE4504 on December 03, 2012, 06:18:43 PM
can i dispute the charge on my amex credit card? or will this make matters worse?
Title: Re: Amazon payment - issues
Post by: Redbull3 on December 04, 2012, 07:42:24 AM
http://wiki.dansdeals.com/Acronyms

Haha I always just used google like the above guy but after you posted this link I decided to finally find out what DO (in the context of getting together in person?) stands for and lol still no luck.
Title: Re: Amazon payment - issues
Post by: Shmelly on December 04, 2012, 02:53:20 PM
Haha I always just used google like the above guy but after you posted this link I decided to finally find out what DO (in the context of getting together in person?) stands for and lol still no luck.
Day Out, just learned that one myself.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: schneury on December 04, 2012, 03:45:33 PM
Is it possible to use amazon gc for amazon payments?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on December 04, 2012, 04:21:22 PM
Not sure; I've never tried it. I wouldn't think so.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on December 04, 2012, 04:44:50 PM
Is it possible to use amazon gc for amazon payments?
This question has been asked on this same thread probably a dozen times. And Amazon GC will not work for Amazon Payments.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: sky121 on December 05, 2012, 06:30:46 PM
Does Amazon Payments count as a direct deposit for keeping you Chase checking account fee-free?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on December 05, 2012, 06:36:45 PM
Does Amazon Payments count as a direct deposit for keeping you Chase checking account fee-free?
Yes.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on December 06, 2012, 11:30:51 AM
seeing following message on numerous accounts
We are processing the tax identity information submitted by you. Your account will have restricted functionality during this time.
hope it clears up soon, I
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 06, 2012, 11:32:29 AM
I called Amazon and I asked them if I can send money to myself and they said its against the terms and conditions, so you guys may want to be careful.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 06, 2012, 11:35:37 AM
I called Amazon and I asked them if I can send money to myself and they said its against the terms and conditions, so you guys may want to be careful.

 ::)

(even if you didn't)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on December 06, 2012, 11:36:43 AM
not sending it to myself
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: asks on December 06, 2012, 11:51:22 AM
seeing following message on numerous accounts
We are processing the tax identity information submitted by you. Your account will have restricted functionality during this time.
hope it clears up soon, I

I had the same message in my account an hour ago, but was still able to send out two payments for $500 each, no problem
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 06, 2012, 03:16:51 PM
Is there any way to see the reason for why a payment failed? The entire email from Amazon read

Greetings from Amazon Payments,

Your payment of $1000.00 to SHMELLY'S ALTER EGO has failed.

Thank you for using Amazon Payments.
For further information about Amazon Payments, please visit our Help pages:


I've tried for 4 consecutive days now. Both of the accounts in question are of the grandfathered no SS# variety and have never had any issues.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: asks on December 06, 2012, 03:29:14 PM
Is there any way to see the reason for why a payment failed? The entire email from Amazon read

Greetings from Amazon Payments,

Your payment of $1000.00 to SHMELLY'S ALTER EGO has failed.

Thank you for using Amazon Payments.
For further information about Amazon Payments, please visit our Help pages:


I've tried for 4 consecutive days now. Both of the accounts in question are of the grandfathered no SS# variety and have never had any issues.
try a smaller amount first?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 06, 2012, 03:35:50 PM
try a smaller amount first?
I've been doing $1000 transactions on this account for a year.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: asks on December 06, 2012, 04:08:30 PM
I've been doing $1000 transactions on this account for a year.
just a suggestion, dunno...
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on December 06, 2012, 04:17:16 PM
Are you sure the cc info was entered properly?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 06, 2012, 04:18:01 PM
Are you sure the cc info was entered properly?
Yes, I used this same card last month.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on December 06, 2012, 04:34:02 PM
Is there any way to see the reason for why a payment failed? The entire email from Amazon read

Greetings from Amazon Payments,

Your payment of $1000.00 to SHMELLY'S ALTER EGO has failed.

Thank you for using Amazon Payments.
For further information about Amazon Payments, please visit our Help pages:


I've tried for 4 consecutive days now. Both of the accounts in question are of the grandfathered no SS# variety and have never had any issues.

maybe because

I called Amazon and I asked them if I can send money to myself and they said its against the terms and conditions, so you guys may want to be careful.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 06, 2012, 04:41:27 PM
maybe because
Lol well played. My sarcasm brought this on myself.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Achas Veachas on December 06, 2012, 05:08:54 PM
Lol well played. My sarcasm brought this on myself.
בור כרה ויחפרהו, ויפול בשחת יפעל
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 06, 2012, 05:10:06 PM
בור כרה ויחפרהו, ויפול בשחת יפעל
Which means?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Achas Veachas on December 06, 2012, 05:12:57 PM
Which means?
He dug a pit and deepened it, and he fell into the pit that he made.
                                                                              - Psalms 7:16
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 07, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
BTW I know someone with multiple ap accounts with SS numbers and never had a problem.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 07, 2012, 12:51:52 PM
Eh. It went though today. No explanation. Weird.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Emkay on December 08, 2012, 12:29:56 PM
To send money for free is it 1000 per 30 days or per calendar month
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on December 08, 2012, 12:46:05 PM
To send money for free is it 1000 per 30 days or per calendar month
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ari2955 on December 08, 2012, 02:49:59 PM
"Additional Information Required

To ensure compliance with Federal law, please provide your Date of Birth."

This message showed up on all my accounts, any ideas what this is about and what to expect?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: U-no-me! on December 08, 2012, 03:55:10 PM
"Additional Information Required

To ensure compliance with Federal law, please provide your Date of Birth."

This message showed up on all my accounts, any ideas what this is about and what to expect?

Standard.

GL
O0
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ari2955 on December 08, 2012, 04:24:38 PM
Standard.

GL
O0

Y now? iv'e been using these accounts for months, an suddenly they all get this alert at the same time
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: EE4504 on December 09, 2012, 09:14:38 AM
amazon is only verifying the last 4 digit of social....
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: smart brit on December 09, 2012, 11:37:08 PM
New massage on my ap account.
I need to fill in the details otherwise from Dec 31 I won't be able to send or receive money.
Anyone else seeing it? Is this message something that I should be concerned about?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yaalili on December 14, 2012, 11:25:38 AM
"Additional Information Required

To ensure compliance with Federal law, please provide your Date of Birth."

This message showed up on all my accounts, any ideas what this is about and what to expect?

Getting the same message on all my accounts too, did u enter it for all of them?
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: A3 on December 14, 2012, 12:25:00 PM
Getting the same message on all my accounts too, did u enter it for all of them?

Did they send it to you in an email? I don't plan on logging in again till jan 1 or 2
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yaalili on December 14, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
Did they send it to you in an email? I don't plan on logging in again till jan 1 or 2

Nope, only saw it when i logged into my accounts.
Title: amazon payments
Post by: robesrones on December 16, 2012, 07:01:46 AM
hi dan a few questions about using amazon payments to meet spending thresholds on credit cards:
1) Does the receiver have tax consequences for the money put into his bank account?
2) Can you do this with an amex card issued by Citibank?
3) Can I send it to my father or spouse who have the same last name?
Title: Re: amazon payments
Post by: mmermss on December 16, 2012, 07:08:03 AM
hi dan a few questions about using amazon payments to meet spending thresholds on credit cards:
1) Does the receiver have tax consequences for the money put into his bank account?
2) Can you do this with an amex card issued by Citibank?
3) Can I send it to my father or spouse who have the same last name?
Welcome to the forums!
I understand you wanted Dan to reply but the truth is if you search and (after not finding the answers to your questions) post in the correct thread you will get a reply much faster  :)

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3524.0
Title: Re: amazon payments
Post by: robesrones on December 16, 2012, 07:14:10 AM
that's an ocean to sort thru. i need authoritative answers! but thanks
Title: Re: amazon payments
Post by: Yaalili on December 16, 2012, 07:21:05 AM
hi dan a few questions about using amazon payments to meet spending thresholds on credit cards:
1) Does the receiver have tax consequences for the money put into his bank account?
2) Can you do this with an amex card issued by Citibank?
3) Can I send it to my father or spouse who have the same last name?

Hey robert, i see u took the advice, to post it on the forums - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/26956#comment-189551 - but u didn't post it in the link provided, ur questions are more likely to be answered there.
Title: Re: amazon payments
Post by: Redbull3 on December 16, 2012, 08:25:42 AM
hi dan a few questions about using amazon payments to meet spending thresholds on credit cards:
1) Does the receiver have tax consequences for the money put into his bank account?
2) Can you do this with an amex card issued by Citibank?
3) Can I send it to my father or spouse who have the same last name?

1. No (unless you do massive amounts of transactions/amounts which I don't remember off hand hopefully someone in forums answers)
2. Yes
3. Yes - What can get you shut down is a YMMV kind of thing but I don't think that sending money to a family member would inherently be a problem. Personally I would keep transfers 1 way, ie don't send back and forth between 2 accounts even if it's a different name. That is why people use "AP triangles."
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MnM1130 on December 16, 2012, 10:33:42 AM
some accounts it only asked me for bday information... and the warning went away.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Mocha on December 17, 2012, 03:29:18 PM
Was using AP to cash out 5 $200 Amex gc from saples. Added wrong exp the as usual then corrected it and it failed twice. Any ideas? Used Prepaid Gift Card for name and regular address for billing address.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ari2955 on December 17, 2012, 04:38:52 PM
Getting the same message on all my accounts too, did u enter it for all of them?

Yes, and it all went away, and I've been using it since without a problem?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 17, 2012, 04:41:10 PM
Was using AP to cash out 5 $200 Amex gc from saples. Added wrong exp the as usual then corrected it and it failed twice. Any ideas? Used Prepaid Gift Card for name and regular address for billing address.
Did you reg the GC's.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Mocha on December 17, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Did you reg the GC's.
nope but I got it to work by deleting and re-adding it. Not sure what did wrong (I verified that the numbers were right).
Title: Amazon Payments will cancel if missing s.s.# by years end!
Post by: Shkop on December 19, 2012, 12:43:34 PM
My wife never supplied her ss# on her amazon payments account. Now there is a pop up to fill in missing info by 12/31 or the account will not be able to receive funds anymore. If you have not supplied your s.s.# yet, you may want to get at it. By the way, what happens if I gave the wrong social? What do they do with the s.s. anyhow?

On my account I supplied the info but now I get a pop up asking for my date of birth. There is no threat for cancellation. I assume nothing happens at years end if it is not supplied. Anyone know? Why would they need all this info? Any reason to hesitate giving over socials and date of birth?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: chilzech on December 24, 2012, 07:52:32 AM
Can i use amazon gc's to fund to/ send money from my AP account? If yes, how? Is that the "Amazon.com Visa" under the "add credit card" option?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on December 24, 2012, 07:55:11 AM
Can i use amazon gc's to fund to/ send money from my AP account? If yes, how? Is that the "Amazon.com Visa" under the "add credit card" option?
No.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: EE4504 on December 24, 2012, 03:59:46 PM
Did anyone hear that amex doesn't let use their credit card to send amazon payments to anybody in the same household because this is not considered a credit card purchase....
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 24, 2012, 04:03:11 PM
Did anyone hear that amex doesn't let use their credit card to send amazon payments to anybody in the same household because this is not considered a credit card purchase....
Yes. Amex is not a fan of AP. In assuming you got financial reviewed?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: EE4504 on December 24, 2012, 04:07:31 PM
yes. all they wanted a bank verification of my last 12 month avg balance...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: robi on December 24, 2012, 04:11:13 PM
Did anyone hear that amex doesn't let use their credit card to send amazon payments to anybody in the same household because this is not considered a credit card purchase....
has nothing to do with same household. as saver pointed out AMEX not a fan of AP
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: EE4504 on December 24, 2012, 04:26:10 PM
what about chase?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 24, 2012, 04:36:24 PM
what about chase?
no problems reported
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: greatdeals on December 26, 2012, 03:34:22 PM
I want to use amazon payment to meet spending
so if I understand correctly you use the cc to fund it.
You shouldn't send money back and forth from the same person
so what is the best way to get the money back?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Smart on December 26, 2012, 08:01:32 PM
I want to use amazon payment to meet spending
so if I understand correctly you use the cc to fund it.
You shouldn't send money back and forth from the same person
so what is the best way to get the money back?

You have a wife for a reason   :-*

The person who receives the money can withdraw it to a bank account
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmulyg on December 27, 2012, 06:44:54 AM
I want to use amazon payment to meet spending
so if I understand correctly you use the cc to fund it.
You shouldn't send money back and forth from the same person
so what is the best way to get the money back?
The best way to do it is to form a trio with friends and play 'pass the money around.' ;)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yaalili on December 27, 2012, 07:20:16 AM
The best way to do it is to form a trio with friends and play 'pass the money around.' ;)

a trio of username's will do the trick too...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 27, 2012, 07:23:17 AM
a trio of username's will do the trick too...
All you need is three?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yaalili on December 27, 2012, 07:30:36 AM
All you need is three?

was playing on the same line of the person i quoted, who said trio. But definitely could be more ;)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 27, 2012, 07:33:06 AM
I never used AP to reach a threshold because I never needed to (always met it with regular spend).  Is it worth the risks (wtvr they may be) just to get an extra 1k points a months?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmulyg on December 27, 2012, 07:56:12 AM
I never used AP to reach a threshold because I never needed to (always met it with regular spend).  Is it worth the risks (wtvr they may be) just to get an extra 1k points a months?
Aside for Amex cards, what risks are there?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 27, 2012, 08:05:42 AM
Aside for Amex cards, what risks are there?
Don't know. Never really got involved in AP. no reports of risk from chase?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on December 27, 2012, 09:18:18 AM
I never used AP to reach a threshold because I never needed to (always met it with regular spend).  Is it worth the risks (wtvr they may be) just to get an extra 1k points a months?
Why not? There is not much risk involved, just do not use Amex and do not be to greedy by sending 1k etc and you will lower the risks.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 27, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
Why not? There is not much risk involved, just do not use Amex and do not be to greedy by sending 1k etc and you will lower the risks.
Even with Amex you could buy a Visa/MC gift card and cash that out out on AP.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bem684 on December 27, 2012, 10:44:22 AM
I have used my wife's SPG card on AP to send $950 a month for the past 3 months to my brother.  I did not realize this was a risk (I never read through most of this thread until now).  This is a risk with ANY amex card and not just certain ones?  No problems yet but I will switch to using my new Ink Bold card for this - I need to meet spending threshold anyways.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: george on December 27, 2012, 12:39:02 PM
Is this normal? I just tried doing AP from my wife's AP accnt to mine for $962. The transaction shows up as the following

Status:    Pending

We are unable to complete your transaction until further review. It can take up to 24 hours to complete this transaction. We apologize for any inconvenience this delay may cause.


Is this any cause for concern?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: alpicone on December 27, 2012, 12:58:37 PM
Is this normal? I just tried doing AP from my wife's AP accnt to mine for $962. The transaction shows up as the following

Status:    Pending

We are unable to complete your transaction until further review. It can take up to 24 hours to complete this transaction. We apologize for any inconvenience this delay may cause.


Is this any cause for concern?

I have had this too. Usually cleared by the next day.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: george on December 27, 2012, 01:00:35 PM
I have had this too. Usually cleared by the next day.
thanks
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 27, 2012, 01:15:16 PM
Aside for Amex cards, what risks are there?
Why not? There is not much risk involved, just do not use Amex and do not be to greedy by sending 1k etc and you will lower the risks.
Even with Amex you could buy a Visa/MC gift card and cash that out out on AP.
Thanks guys..I guess ill try it out when I get a chance.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ahecht37 on December 27, 2012, 01:27:14 PM
why isnt there a wiki on this thread? i would do it but i dont feel qualified
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 27, 2012, 01:38:08 PM
why isnt there a wiki on this thread? i would do it but i dont feel qualified
If you know the topic..try to do it...nothing to be scared about.  It can always be edited by others if you made a mistake or something new comes up.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: george on December 27, 2012, 02:25:41 PM
I have had this too. Usually cleared by the next day.
payment posted as completed within 2 hours
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Emkay on December 27, 2012, 03:33:48 PM
Aside for Amex cards, what risks are there?

What's wrong with amex
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yaalili on December 27, 2012, 03:35:24 PM
What's wrong with amex

It will trigger a FR.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 27, 2012, 03:36:11 PM

What's wrong with amex
F (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.0)/R (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 27, 2012, 03:44:55 PM

What's wrong with amex
It will trigger a FR.
F (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.0)/R (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436)
This is not always the case.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 27, 2012, 03:50:52 PM
This is not always the case.
If you use AP smartly
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 27, 2012, 04:07:32 PM
This is not always the case.

The fact that it is SOMETIMES the case is enough of a reason to avoid it if one has ANY question whatsoever about failing an F/R (or just wants to avoid the headache).

Constantly repeating that it may not happen in 100% of the cases doesn't help.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 27, 2012, 04:11:33 PM
The fact that it is SOMETIMES the case is enough of a reason to avoid it if one has ANY question whatsoever about failing an F/R (or just wants to avoid the headache).

Constantly repeating that it may not happen in 100% of the cases doesn't help.
Has there ever been negative reports from Chase due to AP?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 27, 2012, 04:44:53 PM
NAFAIK.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Buruch on December 27, 2012, 04:53:08 PM
NAFAIK.
So I could do 1k payments to the same account every month and it still wouldn't have a red flag?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 27, 2012, 04:54:46 PM
So I could do 1k payments to the same account every month and it still wouldn't have a red flag?
Probably best to be off by a few digits every month just in case.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Buruch on December 27, 2012, 04:58:25 PM
Does the T&C say that it must be for business-related purposes, or could I put in a memo saying something like paying you back for the groceries etc.?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on December 27, 2012, 05:00:12 PM
Does the T&C say that it must be for business-related purposes, or could I put in a memo saying something like paying you back for the groceries etc.?
Again you gotta use the DDF promo.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Buruch on December 27, 2012, 05:03:21 PM
Again you gotta use the DDF promo.

Huh? Promo?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on December 27, 2012, 05:05:27 PM
Huh? Promo?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3802.msg372828#msg372828
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 27, 2012, 05:08:09 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3802.msg372828#msg372828

You realize that's just going to confuse him further, right?  ::)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on December 27, 2012, 05:10:01 PM
You realize that's just going to confuse him further, right?  ::)
You're lately the DDF resident Advocate for the Poor. You realize?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Buruch on December 27, 2012, 05:10:39 PM
So you're saying to stop asking so many questions?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 27, 2012, 05:14:52 PM
So you're saying to stop asking so many questions?
Or search (https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/personal)  :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 27, 2012, 05:58:28 PM
Constantly repeating that it may not happen in 100% of the cases doesn't help.
Constantly repeating that it may be a trigger does not help either. Let me put it this way. AP by itself is not a trigger for a FR by Amex!!! 
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 27, 2012, 06:03:33 PM
Constantly repeating that it may be a trigger does not help either. Let me put it this way. AP by itself is not a trigger for a FR by Amex!!!
What about this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436)?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 27, 2012, 06:17:16 PM
What about this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436)?

Or this: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?action=post;quote=368108;topic=8.1905

Or any of the other dozens of pieces of anecdotal evidence littered on this forum and FW and FT and SD.

Even more egregious, though, is to suggest that people should NOT state that AP might be an F/R trigger because you or other people haven't had an issue with it... yet.

Naive and reckless.


Me: Don't play in traffic.
HelpMe: Why? I haven't been hit by a car!
Me: It's still a risk, as evidenced by the others who HAVE been hit by cars.
HelpMe: Well, I personally haven't been hit by a car, so therefore I can conclusively say it's not a risk for anyone to play in traffic.
Me:  ::)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 27, 2012, 06:45:34 PM
Or this: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?action=post;quote=368108;topic=8.1905

Or any of the other dozens of pieces of anecdotal evidence littered on this forum and FW and FT and SD.

Even more egregious, though, is to suggest that people should NOT state that AP might be an F/R trigger because you or other people haven't had an issue with it... yet.

Naive and reckless.


Me: Don't play in traffic.
HelpMe: Why? I haven't been hit by a car!
Me: It's still a risk, as evidenced by the others who HAVE been hit by cars.
HelpMe: Well, I personally haven't been hit by a car, so therefore I can conclusively say it's not a risk for anyone to play in traffic.
Me:  ::)
+1 I underwent a mini FR by phone. The second question she asked was "What was this $1000 charge from Amazon payments three months ago.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 27, 2012, 06:49:44 PM
This is no different when I first join hear everyone would state you might get more than one pull for a 2/3bm. Hopefully everyone understands it has nothing to do with the 2/3bm and 100% on how the pulls are coded in the same day. This is no different. If someone wants to put in the effort you can find out exactly what is going on and you wonít have to guess. Until then we each will have to go on the data we have access to.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 27, 2012, 07:10:40 PM
Me: Don't play in traffic.
HelpMe: Why? I haven't been hit by a car!
Me: It's still a risk, as evidenced by the others who HAVE been hit by cars.
HelpMe: Well, I personally haven't been hit by a car, so therefore I can conclusively say it's not a risk for anyone to play in traffic.
Me:  ::)
Me: Look both ways when you cross the street.
AJK: But I might get hit by a car.
Me: You canít live in fear your whole life. Just trust me and you will be OK.
AJK: But I read somewhere that someone was hit by a car crossing the street.
Me:   ::)

 :P
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 27, 2012, 07:14:08 PM
This is no different when I first join hear everyone would state you might get more than one pull for a 2/3bm. Hopefully everyone understands it has nothing to do with the 2/3bm and 100% on how the pulls are coded in the same day. This is no different. If someone wants to put in the effort you can find out exactly what is going on and you wonít have to guess. Until then we each will have to go on the data we have access to.

Translation:

"I will imply that I have access to information that none of you do which is both irrefutable and undeniable and this inaccessible information indicates that I am right and you are wrong, despite, of course, the many pieces of anecdotal evidence your showing."

Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 27, 2012, 07:14:52 PM
Me: Look both ways when you cross the street.
AJK: But I might get hit by a car.
Me: You canít live in fear your whole life. Just trust me and you will be OK.
AJK: But I read somewhere that someone was hit by a car crossing the street.
Me:   ::)

 :P

Somehow I think if we took a poll of which rendition is more accurate...
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on December 27, 2012, 07:17:16 PM
Do we know that AP by itself is a trigger and not just something that will come up once you're under review?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 27, 2012, 07:18:13 PM
Do we know that AP by itself is a trigger and not just something that will come up once you're under review?
Not according to HelpMe.
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on December 27, 2012, 07:20:42 PM
Not according to HelpMe.

Right, I just glanced at the links posted and they just seemed to be that the person was asked about it. Curious if there is proof it's a trigger or just caution.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 27, 2012, 07:22:29 PM
Do we know that AP by itself is a trigger and not just something that will come up once you're under review?
Now we are getting somewhere. These are things you have to look into instead of just saying "X" is a trigger for a FR.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 27, 2012, 07:24:19 PM
Translation:

"I will imply that I have access to information that none of you do which is both irrefutable and undeniable and this inaccessible information indicates that I am right and you are wrong, despite, of course, the many pieces of anecdotal evidence your showing."
Not sure where that came from.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 27, 2012, 07:40:25 PM
Go ahead, play in traffic. See what I care!  ;D
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 27, 2012, 07:46:29 PM
Go ahead, play in traffic. See what I care!  ;D
I don't play in traffic but I do look both ways before I cross the street.  :P
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on December 29, 2012, 04:02:40 PM
Me: Look both ways when you cross the street.
AJK: But I might get hit by a car.
Me: You canít live in fear your whole life. Just trust me and you will be OK.
AJK: But I read somewhere that someone was hit by a car crossing the street.
Me:   ::)

 :P


Me: Don't play in traffic.
HelpMe: Why? I haven't been hit by a car!
Me: It's still a risk, as evidenced by the others who HAVE been hit by cars.
HelpMe: Well, I personally haven't been hit by a car, so therefore I can conclusively say it's not a risk for anyone to play in traffic.
Me:  ::)

I enjoy story time.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: weingarten62 on December 30, 2012, 09:37:46 AM
Is their a 1099 at the end of the year for Amazon payments???
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yaalili on December 30, 2012, 10:21:45 AM
Is their a 1099 at the end of the year for Amazon payments???

This question has been asked literally tens of times, search a little and u will find the a.

P.S. welcome to the forums!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 30, 2012, 12:49:41 PM
Is their a 1099 at the end of the year for Amazon payments???
No.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 30, 2012, 04:28:15 PM
No.

So you know both the quantity and frequency of his transactions?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 30, 2012, 04:41:15 PM
So you know both the quantity and frequency of his transactions?
Nope but the answer is still no.  :P
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 30, 2012, 04:44:32 PM
In all likelihood you're probably right, but boy is he gonna be surprised if he takes your answer and also happens to be the 1%...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 30, 2012, 04:50:09 PM
In all likelihood you're probably right, but boy is he gonna be surprised if he takes your answer and also happens to be the 1%...
More like the .00001% based on my data. I have not seen one report of a 1099 issued.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 30, 2012, 04:52:13 PM
I don't play in traffic but I do look both ways before I cross the street.  :P

For your edification:

I made AP with my amex plat nd i got a FR and rep told me this was triggered bcs of the AP... Amex suspended all my cards temporarily until FR was done.... and lowered my credit limits...
AP with Amex not recommended!!
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 30, 2012, 04:58:13 PM
More like the .00001% based on my data. I have not seen one report of a 1099 issued.
For your edification:
Cant wait for some more...
story time.
;D :P
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 30, 2012, 05:13:45 PM
For your edification:
So now you believe what CSRís are saying? Or does this only apply when it supports your point of view?

Maybe it was the Amex Plat that triggered the FR and then they seen the APís?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 30, 2012, 05:14:41 PM
Cant wait for some more... ;D :P
You are mixing up posts. The 1099 for AP is a dead issue.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 30, 2012, 05:15:32 PM
So now you believe what CSRís are saying? Or does this only apply when it supports your point of view?

Maybe it was the Amex Plat that triggered the FR and then they seen the APís?

I'm not gonna get back into this discussion, but I post it FWIW to other readers who may not be as convinced as you :)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 30, 2012, 05:17:13 PM
You are mixing up posts. The 1099 for AP is a dead issue.
Not mixing up posts...just quoted your last post in a discussion with AJK.  It became dead around 2 minutes after AJK brought up AP with Amex again...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 30, 2012, 05:25:46 PM
I'm not gonna get back into this discussion, but I post it FWIW to other readers who may not be as convinced as you :)
Then here is something to chew on.  ;)

I know at least 50 members (more like 100) that violate everything that is said here that triggers a FR (AP, churning CL 10x/mo, purchase of only GCís, ect.). Not one of them received a FR and could care less if they did. The reason so many here are worried about a FR is because they canít document what was put down on the app. Donít think you are fooling Amex just because you get approved.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 30, 2012, 05:29:38 PM
We don't disagree on your last point. (Which is almost precisely why I tell other members to be wary.)

I will say, though, that even if you have the income to back it up, it's annoying and frustrating for a multitude of reasons.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Awainer1 on December 30, 2012, 10:02:50 PM
Can I send money to a friend who uses a different bank account and use a different cc with my name on it?  Or does it also have to be his cc?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Awainer1 on December 30, 2012, 10:03:24 PM
as in 2 different credit cards that belong to me
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on December 30, 2012, 10:07:01 PM
as in 2 different credit cards that belong to me
It is not a problem so long as that cc is not linked to your account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 30, 2012, 10:10:14 PM
It is not a problem so long as that cc is not linked to your account.
Not necessarily true, I have the same cc linked to multiple AP accounts.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on December 30, 2012, 10:11:17 PM
Not necessarily true, I have the same cc linked to multiple AP accounts.
That send to each other with the same exact number? If you do the fact that it works isn't proof that it isn't risky just that you did not get caught.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Awainer1 on December 30, 2012, 10:14:19 PM
it would be a different cc linked to a different account but my name on both
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 30, 2012, 10:14:38 PM
Not saying its proof or that its not risky, but I've been doing it for a long time without any issues.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Awainer1 on December 30, 2012, 10:15:48 PM
also like an idiot i just sent 20 dollars to myself on a different amazon payments account before I read this thread just to see if it would work.  now im freaking out that I'm gonna get nailed.  I didnt accept it and am just gonna wait until it clears
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Awainer1 on December 30, 2012, 10:16:40 PM
do you think they will notice 20 bucks?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmulyg on December 30, 2012, 11:16:42 PM
Donít think you are fooling Amex just because you get approved.

You're saying Amex can know your annual income? How's that?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 31, 2012, 10:52:50 AM
Amazon finally shut down all my grandfathered, no ss# accounts.  :'( Worked fine last night, now its a whole buncha nisht. Boo.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 31, 2012, 11:04:23 AM
They didn't just shut down my AP accounts, they completely shut down my Amazon accounts.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: asks on December 31, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
They didn't just shut down my AP accounts, they completely shut down my Amazon accounts.
Is that bec you didnt updated your profiles?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on December 31, 2012, 11:19:42 AM
They didn't just shut down my AP accounts, they completely shut down my Amazon accounts.
+1, just as I was about to cash out gc's  :(
Time to start entering SSNs...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 31, 2012, 11:24:29 AM
Time to start entering SSNs...
I did that 1st thing this morning. AP prompted me that I could not use my account anymore without entering my SS#, so I did. It accepted the info, I proceeded through all the steps of sending a payment, and when I got to the final screen it said sorry, gtfo.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 31, 2012, 11:25:23 AM
Just hung up with AP, they said it takes 24-48 hours after entering SS# for it to be verified.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aj26 on December 31, 2012, 11:35:15 AM
just make sure not to use the same ssn on all the accounts.
The 200 transaction and 20K limit is on all your ap accounts attached to one social
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 31, 2012, 11:39:14 AM
Everyone inputs their real social?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on December 31, 2012, 11:39:38 AM
I did that 1st thing this morning. AP prompted me that I could not use my account anymore without entering my SS#, so I did. It accepted the info, I proceeded through all the steps of sending a payment, and when I got to the final screen it said sorry, gtfo.
Yep, it let me make 2 100 payments and then needed more time to verify the info.
There goes 2.5k of spending this month.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 31, 2012, 11:49:13 AM
There goes 2.5k of spending this month.
Yeah it really screws me bad too, I have $14K of spend to do in the next 100 days and this just knocked out $3K of it. I was already scrambling for ways to hit the spend now, this just made it exponentially harder.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on December 31, 2012, 12:23:51 PM
Just hung up with AP, they said it takes 24-48 hours after entering SS# for it to be verified.
Just a heads up, I entered the correct info for verification and after about 2 days my account was still blocked, they claimed the info was false. I shot off a quick email and about 3 days later I'm back in business.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Emkay on December 31, 2012, 12:37:19 PM
If I send money via PayPal what does it charge as
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamppost on December 31, 2012, 02:24:34 PM
Just wondering what transactions count towards the 200; all transactions or just the recieving ones? If I send 1k get it sent back and then withdrawal it, is that one or three transactions?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 31, 2012, 02:27:34 PM
Everyone inputs their real social?
They do actually verify the social, however it seems they might only verify the last  4.

Maybe someone with knowledge about this can chime in.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmulyg on December 31, 2012, 02:52:11 PM
They do actually verify the social, however it seems they might only verify the last  4.

Maybe someone with knowledge about this can chime in.
+ 1
Yes, someone please do!
Also, can you have more than one ap account with the same ssn?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Drago on December 31, 2012, 04:06:17 PM
Anyone ever try registering their young children? Ie, would the DOB be an issue?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on December 31, 2012, 05:43:00 PM
Anyone ever try registering their young children? Ie, would the DOB be an issue?
Yes...........
Worked for a month or two, then got shut down.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: meshugener on December 31, 2012, 05:43:58 PM
Everyone inputs their real social?
Lately, they do a soft pull on one of your credit reports.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 31, 2012, 05:51:55 PM
Lately, they do a soft pull on one of your credit reports.
Yup they've been doing that for a while.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 31, 2012, 06:02:17 PM
Iv had four ap accounts with ss for a year no problem. plus three for wife.
I do use the amazon (-shopping-free prime trials etc)) part of the accounts as well so the accounts have more legitimacy imo
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 31, 2012, 06:46:13 PM
Iv had four ap accounts with ss for a year no problem. plus three for wife.
I do use the amazon (-shopping-free prime trials etc)) part of the accounts as well so the accounts have more legitimacy imo
All 4 have the same ssn?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yaalili on December 31, 2012, 07:27:52 PM
All 4 have the same ssn?

What's the problem?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Buruch on December 31, 2012, 07:40:36 PM
Yup they've been doing that for a while.
Could that explain my situation? I have no credit history and tried signing up for both Bluebird and AP, but neither could "verify my info" and I was rejected for both. I sent emails to them, and bluebird said i have to fax a complaint to customer services dept., and amazon sent me to someone higher up who could deal with it, but then came back saying "sorry, nothing we can do". The info I provided was all completely accurate.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmulyg on December 31, 2012, 08:00:38 PM
What's the problem?
They clearly have an issue with multiple accounts. I personally know someone who was shut down for that very reason - though he may have taken it to the extreme... I myself have two working accounts (one with ssn and one without). But now with the ssn crackdown, the question is if they would allow more than even one account? And if yes, how many would be pushing it?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 31, 2012, 08:30:34 PM
What's the problem?
yup, like i said i believ that using them for shopping legitimizes them
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on December 31, 2012, 08:46:19 PM
Put my ss in for first time, verified in a flash.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: smart brit on December 31, 2012, 08:49:01 PM
Lately, they do a soft pull on one of your credit reports.
what does a soft pull mean? I don't think it's on the credit report
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on December 31, 2012, 09:06:20 PM
what does a soft pull mean? I don't think it's on the credit report
Soft pulls are on your credit report, usually in a separate section where it states that they don't count against your credit see http://credit.about.com/od/creditscorefaq/f/what-is-a-soft-inquiry.htm
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 31, 2012, 09:32:20 PM
Put my ss in for first time, verified in a flash.
So they get you retroactively.. Probably would be better just to shut down and reopen, no?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mechayamom on December 31, 2012, 10:44:27 PM
I havent followed the whole thread, but decided to try Amazon Payments tonight to satisfy the spend.
It is asking for Social Security and Driver's License.  Not sure I want to put all that info in the account.  Why are they asking for so much personal info?  Any way to get around this.  My hubby is very security wary.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 31, 2012, 10:56:29 PM
I havent followed the whole thread, but decided to try Amazon Payments tonight to satisfy the spend.
It is asking for Social Security and Driver's License.  Not sure I want to put all that info in the account.  Why are they asking for so much personal info?  Any way to get around this.  My hubby is very security wary.
dont worry, amazon is the same as a bank like chase- you would give them your info right?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mechayamom on December 31, 2012, 11:04:57 PM
He is worried about letting the Driver's license info...putting that info online.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on December 31, 2012, 11:34:19 PM
He is worried about letting the Driver's license info...putting that info online.
He should not be worrying so much... there is nothing they will do with it except verify his identity.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: aryeh1 on December 31, 2012, 11:48:29 PM
To ensure compliance with Federal law, please provide your Date of Birth and Tax Identification Number (TIN). Any account that has not provided this information before Monday, December 31st 2012 will not be able to send or receive funds.

So at this point do I need to?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Avid Reader on January 01, 2013, 12:14:44 AM
I say yes.
Title: Re: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: elikay on January 01, 2013, 12:19:24 AM
I say yes.
+1 they have finally come down on this.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 01, 2013, 12:39:31 AM
I havent followed the whole thread, but decided to try Amazon Payments tonight to satisfy the spend.
It is asking for Social Security and Driver's License.  Not sure I want to put all that info in the account.  Why are they asking for so much personal info?  Any way to get around this.  My hubby is very security wary.

 It's been discussed earlier in this thread that the drivers license need not be accurate, it just has to match the format of the state you choose (ex. 9 numbers or two letters followed by 5 numbers etc.) Search and you'll find a guide posted by AsherO for all the states.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Lamppost on January 01, 2013, 08:22:18 AM
Anyway to know for sure that now that 2013 is here, the 20k+200transactions limits (till 1099) have been reset? or to comnfirm that i wont be getting a 1099? I only had about 130 transactions across all my accounts (including sending, recieving, and withdrawling) but i certainly went over 20k. I do feel a tad bit nervous and would like to know if theres anything that i should be nervous about
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 01, 2013, 09:18:03 AM
taxes go by calander year.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 01, 2013, 10:03:59 AM
Anyway to know for sure that now that 2013 is here, the 20k+200transactions limits (till 1099) have been reset? or to comnfirm that i wont be getting a 1099? I only had about 130 transactions across all my accounts (including sending, recieving, and withdrawling) but i certainly went over 20k. I do feel a tad bit nervous and would like to know if theres anything that i should be nervous about

I'd imagine sending and withdrawing don't count towards the 20k.

Sending $ isn't a taxable event for you.

Ditto for withdrawing $ they already reported when you received it in your account.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: robi on January 01, 2013, 04:07:06 PM
I'd imagine sending and withdrawing don't count towards the 20k.

Sending $ isn't a taxable event for you.

Ditto for withdrawing $ they already reported when you received it in your account.
+1 I would think so too. Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: CholentTheTraveler on January 01, 2013, 08:02:37 PM
I have not read most of the 94 pages of posts in here as I came and read from time to time so please excuse my "Noob" questions.

What is the best card to use for AP when transferring the $1,000/month(for free)?

Anyway to track and make sure I am earning points using an Amex SPG(since I use this card for other purchases as well) or easier to use Chase?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmulyg on January 01, 2013, 11:39:02 PM
Anyway to track and make sure I am earning points using an Amex SPG(since I use this card for other purchases as well) or easier to use Chase?

Using ap with an amex card is a potential fr risk.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: CholentTheTraveler on January 01, 2013, 11:41:06 PM
Using ap with an amex card is a potential fr risk.
Thanks, will keep this in mind. I did $150 with Amex. FR easy to get approved from with bank statements and income?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmulyg on January 02, 2013, 12:42:41 AM
FR easy to get approved from with bank statements and income?
Yes, but it's a big pain in the a**...
Title: amazon payments closed
Post by: jblacker on January 02, 2013, 06:25:05 PM
i had accounts from b4 the SSN's needed to be added and was using them w/o SSN, they just blocked the accounts any idies to get them reopened? i already have account with my SSN
Title: Re: amazon payments closed
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 06:27:08 PM
i had accounts from b4 the SSN's needed to be added and was using them w/o SSN, they just blocked the accounts any idies to get them reopened? i already have account with my SSN
Please search next time
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3524.0
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gevaldig on January 07, 2013, 11:16:07 PM
just spoke to Amazon Payment rep, she told me no gift cards allowed to use in amazon payments, only regular cc,  is this something new? or the rep has no idea what she is talking about?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on January 07, 2013, 11:17:04 PM
Ugh.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: robi on January 07, 2013, 11:18:12 PM
Ugh.
beat me to it
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: AJK on January 07, 2013, 11:20:02 PM
beat me to it

I mean, seriously, isn't this like common sense? Or I (us) am in some elite minority?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: askmoses on January 08, 2013, 12:30:20 AM
I'm pretty sure this whole thread could be under 10 pages... this one has the same few questions over and over and over and......
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yaalili on January 08, 2013, 12:31:50 AM
I'm pretty sure this whole thread could be under 10 pages... this one has the same few questions over and over and over and......

That's why the wiki was created ;)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 08, 2013, 01:39:20 AM
I mean, seriously, isn't this like common sense? Or I (us) am in some elite minority?
Both.  :P
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 08, 2013, 01:53:37 AM
just spoke to Amazon Payment rep, she told me no gift cards allowed to use in amazon payments, only regular cc,  is this something new? or the rep has no idea what she is talking about?
:o >:(
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MrsZev on January 08, 2013, 02:03:38 AM
Using ap with an amex card is a potential fr risk.

Even if used wholly legitimately? Paying service providers (aka cleaning help, child care providers, handymen, etc)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 08, 2013, 02:05:27 AM
Even if used wholly legitimately? Paying service providers (aka cleaning help, child care providers, handymen, etc)
Yes.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: MrsZev on January 08, 2013, 02:08:26 AM
Yes.

good to know, thanks. Any others to be wary of with AP? I'd move my activity to Chase Ink cards...
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 08, 2013, 08:10:33 AM
just spoke to Amazon Payment rep, she told me no gift cards allowed to use in amazon payments, only regular cc,  is this something new? or the rep has no idea what she is talking about?
Sheifaleh, the WIKI is custom made for you. Read it. Its not necessary to make phone calls.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: tuvz on January 08, 2013, 08:19:39 AM
You can have multiple AP accounts if you have differrent emails and bank accounts,
What if i have used two differrent bank accounts on the one AP account, would it be an issue to take one off and use it for a new account?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gevaldig on January 08, 2013, 08:24:05 AM
would i be able to buy lets say a 3k amazon gift card, on amazon.com. Then cash it out thru amazon payments 1k each month? cuz normally it's hard to buy this amount in one card, but on amazon u can. Like this I don't have to pay the 3.95 charge on every card
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Red on January 08, 2013, 08:27:12 AM
would i be able to buy lets say a 3k amazon gift card, on amazon.com. Then cash it out thru amazon payments 1k each month? cuz normally it's hard to buy this amount in one card, but on amazon u can. Like this I don't have to pay the 3.95 charge on every card
no
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 08, 2013, 09:53:08 AM
All 3 of my accounts got shut down on 12/31. I figured the no-SSN gig was up and provided it on all 3 accounts, and they didn't lift the restrictions. I've HUCAed and emailed 10+ times already and keep getting the same response - sorry, nothing we can do, feel free to open a new account. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 08, 2013, 10:11:17 AM
All 3 of my accounts got shut down on 12/31. I figured the no-SSN gig was up and provided it on all 3 accounts, and they didn't lift the restrictions. I've HUCAed and emailed 10+ times already and keep getting the same response - sorry, nothing we can do, feel free to open a new account. Any suggestions?
just open new ones. Whats the prob?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 08, 2013, 10:58:45 AM
I guess I can do that. I'm just so attached to my old ones, all opened in June-July 2011. We've been through so much together.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gevaldig on January 09, 2013, 11:29:35 AM
Can I use Amex gift cards to cash out on amazon payments or only visa and MasterCard? and where can i get big amounts of Visa or MasterCard GC so I don't have to pay the 4.95 so many times?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2013, 12:01:40 PM
Yes.
OD.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gevaldig on January 09, 2013, 12:59:19 PM
Yes.
OD.
on amex and on big amounts? thanks Dan, so now I can get the 5 points on ink
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 09, 2013, 03:36:09 PM
on amex and on big amounts? thanks Dan, so now I can get the 5 points on ink

You can buy 3K gift cards online from americanexpress.com
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gevaldig on January 10, 2013, 12:12:49 AM
can i also buy amazon gift cards, on amazon.com, with a cc and then cash out my amazon gc thru amazon payments??
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yaalili on January 10, 2013, 12:14:47 AM
can i also buy amazon gift cards, on amazon.com, with a cc and then cash out my amazon gc thru amazon payments??

NO, red just answered u that.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gevaldig on January 10, 2013, 12:19:35 AM
your right, but is there any reazon that amazon allows u to add any gift card, except for their own ?
Title: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: bubbles on January 10, 2013, 12:20:53 AM
your right, but is there any reazon that amazon allows u to add any gift card, except for their own ?

I would appreciate it if you could tell me how to load staples gift cards onto AP
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Yaalili on January 10, 2013, 12:21:09 AM
your right, but is there any reazon that amazon allows u to add any gift card, except for their own ?

They don't allow u to add any gift card to a business, only prepaid visa cards allowed. Try cashing out ur starbucks card, and let us know what happens..
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: dove on January 10, 2013, 01:06:05 AM
If I provide now my ssn to amazon payments will I receive 1099 for 2012 if I had over $20000??
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: isac on January 10, 2013, 01:24:22 AM
why not just buy amex gift cards? (if u have the $ to lay out)
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: ahecht37 on January 10, 2013, 03:26:46 AM
If I provide now my ssn to amazon payments will I receive 1099 for 2012 if I had over $20000??
read the wiki
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 10, 2013, 08:45:04 AM
read the wiki

I don't think the wiki answers his question. ICBW but I think he's asking if he enters it now will all of the activity in his AP account history from prior to entering his ssn "count" towards the 1099.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 10, 2013, 10:30:50 AM
Are they still only verifying the last 4 of your social (I know the ask you for the whole thing) or are they now validating the whole number?

Alternatively I'll TOFTT if s/o could tell me how many tries you get till they lock you out.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 10, 2013, 11:16:28 AM
Are they still only verifying the last 4 of your social (I know the ask you for the whole thing) or are they now validating the whole number?

Alternatively I'll TOFTT if s/o could tell me how many tries you get till they lock you out.
IME they are verifying the full social, and they locked me out after 1 try of just last 4, and I am having no luck getting them reopened.
Title: Using Amazon payments to cash out prepaid cards
Post by: ckmk47 on January 15, 2013, 11:34:32 AM
I tried to use debit cards to make an amazon payments.  It failed.

How do I do it?  Sorry, I need a tutorial.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Using Amazon payments to cash out prepaid cards
Post by: yitzf on January 15, 2013, 12:03:27 PM
I tried to use debit cards to make an amazon payments.  It failed.

How do I do it?  Sorry, I need a tutorial.

Thanks.

What type of debit card?
Title: Re: Using Amazon payments to cash out prepaid cards
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 15, 2013, 02:24:03 PM
I tried to use debit cards to make an amazon payments.  It failed.

How do I do it?  Sorry, I need a tutorial.

Thanks.
Did the payment work with a CC? Maybe it's an account issue.
Title: How to add a GC to AP?
Post by: yyk on January 15, 2013, 05:07:23 PM
Can someone please explain in a step by step process how to add GC's to AP?
I know Dan mentioned about the fake expiration trick, but I'm still not sure how to add it there. Is it the same as adding a regular credit card?
Once the card is in AP when do you see another screen to be able to change the fake expiration when sending the actual funds?

If these questions were already answered, can you please send me the link? I tried searching for it but could not find anything.
Title: Re: How to add a GC to AP?
Post by: mmermss on January 15, 2013, 05:09:11 PM
Can someone please explain in a step by step process how to add GC's to AP?
I know Dan mentioned about the fake expiration trick, but I'm still not sure how to add it there. Is it the same as adding a regular credit card?
Once the card is in AP when do you see another screen to be able to change the fake expiration when sending the actual funds?

If these questions were already answered, can you please send me the link? I tried searching for it but could not find anything.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3524.0
Title: Re: How to add a GC to AP?
Post by: Shmelly on January 15, 2013, 05:10:13 PM
Add it the same way you'd add any credit card but with a wrong exp, then go back in to your payment methods and edit the exp date of that card.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gevaldig on January 15, 2013, 08:50:10 PM
If Amazon only lets u send 1k per month how do u even get to 20k? to have the 1099 problem
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 15, 2013, 09:00:34 PM
If Amazon only lets u send 1k per month how do u even get to 20k? to have the 1099 problem
$1k is the cc limit.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gevaldig on January 15, 2013, 09:05:57 PM
THANKS
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 15, 2013, 10:08:29 PM
I wonder if they count Amazon money (that did not originate from a bank account) towards the 20K limit.
Title: Re: Using Amazon payments to cash out prepaid cards
Post by: ckmk47 on January 15, 2013, 10:26:49 PM
What type of debit card?
I tried with visa, mc and amex gc.  After trying each, I reread the wiki and did the date change thing on new cards.  It only worked on 1 amex not another etc.
Title: Re: Using Amazon payments to cash out prepaid cards
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 15, 2013, 10:30:23 PM
I tried with visa, mc and amex gc.  After trying each, I reread the wiki and did the date change thing on new cards.  It only worked on 1 amex not another etc.
Did you first put in the correct date?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: robi on January 15, 2013, 10:42:31 PM
I tried with visa, mc and amex gc.  After trying each, I reread the wiki and did the date change thing on new cards.  It only worked on 1 amex not another etc.
you have to wait until they release the hold
Title: Re: Using Amazon payments to cash out prepaid cards
Post by: yitzf on January 15, 2013, 10:47:31 PM
I tried with visa, mc and amex gc.  After trying each, I reread the wiki and did the date change thing on new cards.  It only worked on 1 amex not another etc.

Try registering the card, IME with the Vanilla the zip had to be registered.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gevaldig on January 15, 2013, 11:26:52 PM
how long is the hold on AP
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 16, 2013, 03:03:46 AM
There is no hold if you did it right.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: noturbizniss on January 16, 2013, 11:27:10 AM
When i get payments i transfer to my bank right away and it usually shows up in bank next business day.  Faster than more bank transfers.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: gevaldig on January 16, 2013, 10:53:33 PM
the problem is, the gift card balance is 0, i sent 2 payments off 500 each, one got claimed but the 2nd one never went thru I wasn't able to claim the 2nd 500, but on the gift card balance it shows that it went down from 1000  to zero?
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 01:33:15 AM
I hope I am not putting my foot in my mouth but I am happy to see this thread made it to 100 pages. Didn't think it would last this long, al tiftach peh lesatan.
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: mmermss on January 17, 2013, 03:02:06 AM
I hope I am not putting my foot in my mouth but I am happy to see this thread made it to 100 pages. Didn't think it would last this long, al tiftach peh lesatan.
At first I thought I was missing 70 pages..realized I have a lot more on a page
Title: Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 09:22:01 AM