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Title: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: zale on December 07, 2013, 07:05:30 PM
Town and country: fully loaded, leather seats etc - $269

Odyssey LX, basic model: $309

Is it better to stick with Honda and forego the bells and whistles of the Town and Country?
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: 12HRS on December 07, 2013, 07:07:42 PM
If its a lease why do you care about the better life expectancy/resale value of the Honda.

Why is honda better to you?
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Menachem613 on December 07, 2013, 07:17:09 PM
I've leased both. The Odyssey is a better car but I stuck with the T&C to save money.  With the price difference being minimal, I would stick with the Odyssey.
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Ergel on December 07, 2013, 07:18:47 PM
For sure the t&c at those options
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: zale on December 07, 2013, 07:34:24 PM
If its a lease why do you care about the better life expectancy/resale value of the Honda.

Why is honda better to you?

I don't care about the resale value, I just don't want trouble during the 3 years of my lease. I've heard stories of people running to their dealer every few weeks just two years into their lease to have things fixed.

Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: zale on December 07, 2013, 07:35:37 PM
I've leased both. The Odyssey is a better car but I stuck with the T&C to save money.  With the price difference being minimal, I would stick with the Odyssey.

$40 more per month = $1440 over 36 months. The difference is not that minimal...

What is your feedback on the T&C?
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: yoruel on December 07, 2013, 07:48:20 PM

Odyssey LX, basic model: $309

Are there Electric Doors?

Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: cozmohoot on December 07, 2013, 08:34:57 PM
Lx doesn't have power doors
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: zale on December 07, 2013, 09:09:15 PM
Lx doesn't have power doors

Is it that important? For $40 a month i'm thinking I can just go around and close the door myself...
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Barryg on December 07, 2013, 09:09:56 PM
Town and country: fully loaded, leather seats etc - $269

Odyssey LX, basic model: $309

Is it better to stick with Honda and forego the bells and whistles of the Town and Country?
Same amount of miles?
AFAIL T and C (not terms and conditions, but Town and Country) leases have 7.5 k miles...
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Barryg on December 07, 2013, 09:11:18 PM
Is it that important? For $40 a month i'm thinking I can just go around and close the door myself...
But more importantly, does your wife want to close doors herself... (I'm assuming wife being that you're getting a minivan...)
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: cozmohoot on December 07, 2013, 09:38:44 PM
Is it that important? For $40 a month i'm thinking I can just go around and close the door myself...
not the best comparison since the 269 has power doors(paying 40 more to close it yourself) .how much does the Odyssey ex lease for? Personally I would get the TC if I knew i wouldn't be buying it afterwards
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: 12HRS on December 07, 2013, 09:50:37 PM
But more importantly, does your wife want to close doors herself... (I'm assuming wife being that you're getting a minivan...)

Why do you have to ask her?
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Tzfas on December 08, 2013, 12:02:34 AM
I have the T&C 2013 for a year now, and pay 239 a month except an oil change never went to a mechanic, and it drives great.
 I like the fact its fully loaded power doors leather, dvd player.
 
The other great thing is that the middle seats fold right into the floor, no heavy lifting or storage needed for the seats when you take them out like in the Odyssey or Sienna.
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Ergel on December 08, 2013, 12:14:54 AM
The other great thing is that the middle seats fold right into the floor, no heavy lifting or storage needed for the seats when you take them out like in the Odyssey or Sienna.
How come the Ody's doesn't fold into the floor? It must be they needed a place for the spare tire. Where is the T&C's spare?
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Menachem613 on December 08, 2013, 12:14:59 AM

$40 more per month = $1440 over 36 months. The difference is not that minimal...

What is your feedback on the T&C?

It sucks.
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Ergel on December 08, 2013, 12:15:52 AM
It sucks.
Being a little more descriptive may help someone make a decision
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: metziah on December 08, 2013, 01:37:32 AM

Being a little more descriptive may help someone make a decision
no power, bad handling, drives like a truck. Oh sure they have bells and whistles but are the bells and whistles  any good. Ime they were terrible... And the only way they market themselves is with bells and whistles because they have to cover for how bad the car is.
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: plainbachur on December 08, 2013, 02:17:59 AM
Honda damage waiver
 T&C more options for cheaper
 Miles?
Despostion fee (when you return)?
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Sammy82 on December 08, 2013, 02:43:12 AM
Also depends on your needs. I'm pretty sure that the Town and Country only has 7 seats while the Odyssey has 8. For me that was important since my wife does carpool and sometimes needs the 8th seat.
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: cozmohoot on December 08, 2013, 08:24:41 AM
Also depends on your needs. I'm pretty sure that the Town and Country only has 7 seats while the Odyssey has 8. For me that was important since my wife does carpool and sometimes needs the 8th seat.
Lx doesn't have an 8th seat afaik
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Lchaim on December 08, 2013, 09:25:03 AM
T&C is faux leather, just so u know.
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Menachem613 on December 08, 2013, 09:47:13 AM
Being a little more descriptive may help someone make a decision

The acceleration is a joke.  Also, my power sliding door has been malfunctioning almost from day one. 
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: zale on December 08, 2013, 10:24:33 AM
The acceleration is a joke.  Also, my power sliding door has been malfunctioning almost from day one. 

no power, bad handling, drives like a truck. Oh sure they have bells and whistles but are the bells and whistles  any good. Ime they were terrible... And the only way they market themselves is with bells and whistles because they have to cover for how bad the car is.

Thanks guys, this is exactly what I needed to hear. I don't need the 8th seat and I can live without the power doors. Odyssey it is.
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Dan on December 08, 2013, 10:27:22 AM
How much does the 309 become after tax and fees?
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Super Speed on December 08, 2013, 10:29:20 AM

How much does the 309 become after tax and fees?
Kill joy! :)
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: zale on December 08, 2013, 10:30:42 AM
How much does the 309 become after tax and fees?

I believe it's $309 after taxes. http://leasingdirectny.com/details.php?id=60

Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: aygart on December 08, 2013, 11:26:48 AM
no power, bad handling, drives like a truck. Oh sure they have bells and whistles but are the bells and whistles  any good. Ime they were terrible... And the only way they market themselves is with bells and whistles because they have to cover for how bad the car is.
it seems like this is a common marketing ploy which works! Just look at the cell phone market. :goes for cover from Samsung owners::P
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Dan on December 08, 2013, 11:39:29 AM
I guess my question is why not buy?
And while you're at buy something decent with 8 seats and auto doors instead of the base.
Pickup a full 7 year warranty for $800 and you're good to go for a long time.
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: zale on December 08, 2013, 11:50:40 AM
I guess my question is why not buy?
And while you're at buy something decent with 8 seats and auto doors instead of the base.
Pickup a full 7 year warranty for $800 and you're good to go for a long time.

If only I had the negotiating skills that you pulled of with your Altima...

I guess the question would be how do I get the best price, and would I have to pay the whole thing down up front, or can I get the price even with financing?
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Dan on December 08, 2013, 12:09:42 PM
Price is cheaper with financing.  Paying cash means you have to cough up more.

Just email every Honda dealer around you for an OTD quote for the exact trim level you want based on your address.
When you get the lowest the others if they can beat it, then repeat until they all blow you off.
After you agree on a price see how much they'll take via CC and finance the rest.
Don't buy the warranty or anything extra from the dealer.

Now is a great time as Honda has big kickbacks this month to sell more cars.
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: zale on December 08, 2013, 12:21:09 PM
Price is cheaper with financing.  Paying cash means you have to cough up more.

Just email every Honda dealer around you for an OTD quote for the exact trim level you want based on your address.
When you get the lowest the others if they can beat it, then repeat until they all blow you off.
After you agree on a price see how much they'll take via CC and finance the rest.
Don't buy the warranty or anything extra from the dealer.

Now is a great time as Honda has big kickbacks this month to sell more cars.

Is it better to go for the higher end or the base model?

Does it have to be a Honda exclusive dealer or any dealer?

Also, are there any hidden fees to look out for?
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 08, 2013, 12:24:25 PM
I guess my question is why not buy?
And while you're at buy something decent with 8 seats and auto doors instead of the base.
Pickup a full 7 year warranty for $800 and you're good to go for a long time.
Where from?
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Dan on December 08, 2013, 12:36:17 PM
Is it better to go for the higher end or the base model?

Does it have to be a Honda exclusive dealer or any dealer?

Also, are there any hidden fees to look out for?
Better to go for whichever you like and will be happy with for the next decade.

The warranty price is the same for base all the way to touring elite.

Any dealer that sells Honda.

Be sure to ask for OTD including all taxes and fees.
They tried jacking up the price on my Ody but I had that quote in response to that phrasing and they honored it.

Where from?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=25684.msg575134#msg575134
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Ergel on December 08, 2013, 12:53:27 PM
Be sure to ask for OTD including all taxes and fees.
They tried jacking up the price on my Ody but I had that quote in response to that phrasing and they honored it.
+1. They tried to add $350 to my sonata and honored when I pulled out the email
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 08, 2013, 01:01:07 PM
@Dan, (did I miss this?) What year/model did you buy and what was the total, APR etc?
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Tzfas on December 08, 2013, 01:37:03 PM
How come the Ody's doesn't fold into the floor? It must be they needed a place for the spare tire. Where is the T&C's spare?
The spare is in between the front 2 seats.
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: 12HRS on December 08, 2013, 01:37:03 PM
OTD?
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: alpicone on December 08, 2013, 01:37:55 PM

Thanks guys, this is exactly what I needed to hear. I don't need the 8th seat and I can live without the power doors. Odyssey it is.

Get a van with power doors... You will regret it if you don't.
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 08, 2013, 01:50:17 PM
Get a van with power doors... You will regret it if you don't.
+1
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: metziah on December 08, 2013, 01:50:50 PM

OTD?
+1
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Squasher on December 08, 2013, 02:03:29 PM
We're also in the marketing making the same decision:

Pretty goof prices here:

http://www.wheelstolease.com/view-our-ad/

Have leased from Leasing Drirect NY before and they're also great.
Title: Re: Lease question: Town and country vs Odyssey
Post by: Ergel on December 08, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
Out the door