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Title: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on September 18, 2010, 09:38:01 PM
How long did it take in your shul?

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:15
Mincha-Neilah: 6:00-8:15

I bought psicha for kol nidrei for 4x chai and levi by mincha for 7x chai.
Maftir Yonah went for $770 and Psicha for Neilah went for 110x chai.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: moish on September 18, 2010, 09:45:03 PM
7am-8:10pm maariv w/ 15 min break
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: eliteflyer on September 18, 2010, 09:48:07 PM
Beis Shimshon of Crown Heights on the 3rd floor of Lubavitch Yeshiva
Shachris- Musaf: 10:30 to 3:40pm
Mincha Neila: 5:30- 7:50pm

Matisyahu was with us for all tefilos during the yomim noraim.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: jong on September 18, 2010, 09:49:15 PM
Neilah for 4000 x26.

down from 126k last year.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Mikeoracle on September 18, 2010, 10:38:50 PM
8am-8pm with 2hr break between Musaf and Mincha (3-5)
Maaftir Yona= $1000
Psicha Neila= $900
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Charles The Govenor on September 18, 2010, 10:47:03 PM
545 -1130 Am break mincha at 530 pm-800 pm.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 19, 2010, 05:09:44 AM
A 6 hour break? Wow!

I started @ 9am-3pm, and 6:10pm till 8:40pm maariv.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: damaxer91 on September 19, 2010, 06:31:42 AM
Beis Shimshon of Crown Heights on the 3rd floor of Lubavitch Yeshiva
Shachris- Musaf: 10:30 to 3:40pm
Mincha Neila: 5:30- 7:50pm

Matisyahu was with us for all tefilos during the yomim noraim.

Didn't he become Stolin?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 19, 2010, 07:52:02 AM
I thought breslov: unless, he went through all of them, and is back to square one.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ChAiM'l on September 19, 2010, 09:44:35 AM
I thought breslov: unless, he went through all of them, and is back to square one.

Back to square one wouldn't be Lubavitch ...

We started 7.45 and ended 8.12 with 2- 45 minute breaks.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 19, 2010, 10:27:24 AM
Sorry, my mistake, square 2. ;D
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: aussiebochur on September 19, 2010, 10:45:42 AM
I think the amount of Chabad minyanim in Uman is more surprising then one Breslover (if he is in fact Breslov) davening in a Chabad Shul...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: bosoxfan on September 20, 2010, 10:41:32 AM
Beis Shimshon of Crown Heights on the 3rd floor of Lubavitch Yeshiva
Shachris- Musaf: 10:30 to 3:40pm
Mincha Neila: 5:30- 7:50pm

Matisyahu was with us for all tefilos during the yomim noraim.
Wow Matisyahu! you all musta davened soo much better.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: kc1544 on September 20, 2010, 10:56:40 AM
Beis Shimshon of Crown Heights on the 3rd floor of Lubavitch Yeshiva
Shachris- Musaf: 10:30 to 3:40pm
Mincha Neila: 5:30- 7:50pm

Matisyahu was with us for all tefilos during the yomim noraim.

I love Beis Shimshon!!! See you there the last days of Sukkos, whoever you are... :)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 08, 2011, 10:28:35 PM
2011:

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-2:45
Mincha-Neilah: 5:15-7:40

Maftir Yona: $770
Neilah: 70 x $18
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Nitantnel on October 08, 2011, 10:31:42 PM
Neilah for 4000 x26.

down from 126k last year.

Which Shul is this?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Mikeoracle on October 08, 2011, 10:39:08 PM
8am-8pm with 2hr break between Musaf and Mincha (3-5)
Maaftir Yona= $1000
Psicha Neila= $900
2011
8am-7:30pm with break 3pm-4:30pm before Mincha
Maaftir Yona= $3000
Psicha Neila= $2000
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Cholentfresser on October 08, 2011, 11:00:20 PM
770 upstairs: shachris and musaf 10:00 - 2:30
mincha and ne'ila: 5:00 - 7:15
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Avid Reader on October 08, 2011, 11:09:58 PM
Shachris and Mussaf: 10-3:45

Mincha, Ne'ila 5:00 - 7:30

Maftir Yona just under $1000.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AJK on October 08, 2011, 11:11:26 PM
Shachris Mussaf: 745-215
Mincha, Speech, Neilah: 345-715

Maftir Yonah $500
Psicha Neilah $2000
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: henche on October 08, 2011, 11:14:36 PM
I did maftir yona for free.
How much do I have to report on my tax return?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Cholentfresser on October 08, 2011, 11:16:00 PM
I did maftir yona for free.
how'd you pull that off?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Avid Reader on October 08, 2011, 11:18:44 PM
Probably made his own minyan.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: henche on October 08, 2011, 11:24:19 PM
how'd you pull that off?

Probably made his own minyan.

I didn't make it. But yes, it was a small minyan in someone's house. 11 people.
I did maftir yona because I know how to lein.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Cholentfresser on October 08, 2011, 11:25:19 PM
I didn't make it. But yes, it was a small minyan in someone's house. 11 people.
I did maftir yona because I know how to lein.
cool.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AsherO on October 08, 2011, 11:40:10 PM
2011:

BeShT Center @ ULY Crown St.:
Shacharis-Musaf: 10:00-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:00-7:15

Maftir Yona: 105 x $18
Neilah: 110 x $18
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yordai Dooma on October 08, 2011, 11:52:57 PM
Shachris-Mussaf: 8 AM- 12:30PM
Mincha-Neilah: 4:40pm-7:00 PM

They didnt sell anything
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Cbs on October 09, 2011, 12:47:11 AM
Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:15
2011:

Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-2:45
not bad - half hr diff!
quicker chazzan?

by me:
shachris 8:30 - 2:30
Mincha - neila - 5:00 - 7:40
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: YOSEF on October 09, 2011, 12:52:55 AM
Shachris-Mussaf-Mincha 7:00am-4:46pm.
Shmuess-Neilah 5:00pm-7:26pm

(A total of a 14 minute break for almost 12.5 hours)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: henche on October 09, 2011, 12:55:29 AM
Shachris-Mussaf-Mincha 7:00am-4:46pm.
Shmuess-Neilah 5:00pm-7:26pm

(A total of a 14 minute break for almost 12.5 hours)

You didn't mention what time you came.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Cbs on October 09, 2011, 01:06:46 AM
You didn't mention what time you came.
+1
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: akivacp on October 09, 2011, 01:29:10 AM
Community Torah Center of Bucks County, PA

7:30AM-12:25PM
Break
4:30PM-7:15PM
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 09, 2011, 01:30:38 AM
Shachris-Mussaf-Mincha 7:00am-4:46pm.
Shmuess-Neilah 5:00pm-7:26pm

(A total of a 14 minute break for almost 12.5 hours)
I can't imagine what could possibly take that long ???
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: bubbles on October 09, 2011, 01:32:08 AM
I can't imagine what could possibly take that long ???
+1
Had almost a whole half hour break by me  :)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: whYME on October 09, 2011, 01:59:12 AM
5772

770

Shacharis-Mussaf 10:00 - 3:35
minchah-Neilah 4:45-7:15(I think)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Cholentfresser on October 09, 2011, 02:04:02 AM
770

Shacharis-Mussaf 10:00 - 3:35
minchah-Neilah 4:45-7:15(I think)
they were done at 7:10, but close enough ;)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: whYME on October 09, 2011, 02:17:41 AM
they were done at 7:10, but close enough ;)
Yeah, I guess 7:15 was including maariv...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 09, 2011, 02:34:51 AM
+1
Had almost a whole half hour break by me  :)
Same here.
 Hamelech 6:15 Mussaf over 14:00.
 Mincha 14:30.
 Ate (after checking the forums) at 18:02.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Cbs on October 09, 2011, 03:44:09 AM
I can't imagine what could possibly take that long ???
an annoying chazzan that takes his time on everyones cheshbon and sings almost every paragraph! :)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Chaikel on October 09, 2011, 03:48:04 AM
Shachris/Musaf 6:30-1:10
Mincha/Neila 2:35-5:45
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: jj1000 on October 09, 2011, 04:47:51 AM
yeshiva ohr elchanon chabad, the rosh's minyan.

9:15am to 7:25pm. With a 45 minute Break. The best part of the minyan is mariv yom kipur night, which takes well over an hour but after mariv the chazan finishes the whole tehillim in about 50 min.

It was the rosh's "ufruf", but bochurim waited till after yom kipur to throw candy at him. (by a second wedding you don't actually have an ufruf..)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: joey89 on October 09, 2011, 09:28:12 AM
Shacharis -         9:15-1:15

Mincha / Neilah- 4:45-6:20
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: dd321 on October 09, 2011, 09:42:56 AM
7-335 shachris musaf mincha 4-535 neilah over at 745. Maftir yona: 100k SPG points neilah: 150k SPG
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: yaakov s on October 09, 2011, 09:44:26 AM
Maaftir Yona= $1000
Psicha Neila= $900
and then one year later

2011
Maaftir Yona= $3000
Psicha Neila= $2000
Look what miles could do  ;)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mercaz1 on October 09, 2011, 10:01:28 AM
8:00-3:15
4:45- 8:10 including maariv

maftir yona- 1100
psicha neila- 2400
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Chaikel on October 09, 2011, 12:34:12 PM
Psicha Neila 7000 NIS
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: YudiG on October 09, 2011, 03:07:52 PM
8:40 - 2:30 PM

4:30 - 7:30 PM including Maariv
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yaalili on October 09, 2011, 03:58:18 PM
It was the rosh's "ufruf", but bochurim waited till after yom kipur to throw candy at him. (by a second wedding you don't actually have an ufruf..)

When is the rosh getting married?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Cholentfresser on October 09, 2011, 03:59:28 PM
When is the rosh getting married?
this week in Israel. he's going to be there for sukkos.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: jj1000 on October 09, 2011, 05:20:16 PM
When is the rosh getting married?

Tuesday.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AsherO on October 09, 2011, 09:57:25 PM
When is the rosh getting married?

BH I'm glad to hear he's getting married.

(by a second wedding you don't actually have an ufruf..)

But you do say Mazal Tov, right?

So Mazal Tov then :)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: BAHayman on September 26, 2012, 07:18:01 AM
I guess I'll start for 2012 :)

Tzemach Tzedek, Sydney, Australia:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-2:45
Mincha-Neilah: 4:15-6:40

Maftir Yona: $1000 (IIRC)
Neilah: $2000 (IIRC)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: harry on September 26, 2012, 08:24:42 AM
further south in Melbourne:

Yeshivah Centre main shul:

Shacharis 8:30 - 2:30
mincha - neilah 4:30 - 6:59

maftir yona $9000
pesicha neila $12,000
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: PlatinumGuy on September 26, 2012, 03:13:48 PM
06:30-14:00
14:45-18:10

Israel.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: YudiG on September 26, 2012, 04:45:08 PM
7:30 - 1:50

3:15 - 6:15

Arzei (Kamarna)

Maftir Yona - 2300 NIS
Psicha of Neila - 1900 NIS
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: hocker on September 26, 2012, 07:08:23 PM
What's the cheapest place for Maftir Yonah? Good to know for next year...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yaalili on September 26, 2012, 08:26:12 PM
770 - downstairs:

10-3:30 / Shachris-Mussaf
5-7:30 / Mincha-Neilah
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 26, 2012, 08:43:16 PM
Yeshiva Aderes Hatorah (Rabbi Senter's yeshiva), Yerushalayim:

Shachris/Mussaf: 6:40 AM - 1:15 PM
Mincha: 2:45 PM - 4:20 PM
Ne'ilah: 4:30 PM
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Cbs on September 26, 2012, 08:55:13 PM
Shachris/musaf: 8:30 - 2:20
Mincha/Ne'ila: 5:30 - 8:00
Title: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: FMM on September 26, 2012, 09:00:12 PM
YZA - Bayswater, NY
8:00-3:35
4:25-7:55
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: dd321 on September 26, 2012, 09:21:29 PM
who cares, its not like u ate any earlier
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 26, 2012, 09:23:27 PM
who cares, its not like u ate any earlier

That's what YOU think. ;)
Title: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MEIR613 on September 26, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
Shor yoshuv
800 - 300 shachris musaf
Hour break
400 - 800 mincha neila maariv
No kidush lavana by me :)
Title: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: FMM on September 26, 2012, 09:31:48 PM
Shor yoshuv
800 - 300 shachris musaf
Hour break
400 - 800 mincha neila maariv
No kidush lavana by me :)
Dont forget to do it tomorrow! Otherwise you gotta fast again I heard...
Title: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MEIR613 on September 26, 2012, 09:33:54 PM
I thought your suppose to wait till motzai shabbos

Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on September 26, 2012, 09:44:39 PM
Chabad of Beachwood, OH
9:30a-3:00p
5:30-8:00p

Maftir Yonah was sold privately.
Neilah went for $3,600

I got Levi at Mincha though for just $90 :)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: hocker on September 26, 2012, 09:47:42 PM

I got Levi at Mincha though for just $90 :)
Groupon or LS?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: DrDanny on September 26, 2012, 10:04:21 PM
@my yeshiva
7:30 finished kiddush levana 9:15
5 min break before mincha
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Ergel on September 26, 2012, 10:36:45 PM
710-4
420-820 (including maariv)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: yehuda S on September 26, 2012, 11:03:32 PM
I bought Maftir Yona for $200
Pesicha Neila sold for $50
Title: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: pharmdear on September 27, 2012, 12:16:52 AM
Chesed vemes- bayswater, ny

800-215
440-735

Mafter yonah- 1500
Psicha neilah- 4000
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on September 27, 2012, 12:20:12 AM
8:00-8:05
1 hour break before mussaf.
Maftir Yona: $700.
No KL.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Q274 on September 27, 2012, 12:31:56 AM
8 to 245 shacahris - musaf (thanks to the baal shacharis [which may or may not have been me  ;D]
430-730 mincha neila (10 min speach)

shishi for shacris- $600 (me)
maftir yonah- 600 (me)
pesicha neila 2000 (not me)
Title: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: FMM on September 27, 2012, 12:38:16 AM
I thought your suppose to wait till motzai shabbos
You probably can but it's best to do it after Yom Kippur.  The reason they didn't do it at Shor Yoshuv is because it was very cloudy and you could barely see the moon.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: JEWDA on September 27, 2012, 12:48:27 AM
N.Y.
7:30-2:45
4:15-7-25

maftir yonah- $5,000
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: aussiebochur on September 27, 2012, 02:36:56 AM
further south in Melbourne:

Yeshivah Centre main shul:

Shacharis 8:30 - 2:30
mincha - neilah 4:30 - 6:59

maftir yona $9000
pesicha neila $12,000
Dummy bidders not allowed anymore?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: YudiG on September 27, 2012, 02:55:03 AM
I bought Maftir Yona for $200
Pesicha Neila sold for $50

where did you daven?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: SGF on September 27, 2012, 03:20:24 AM

10-3
4:45-7:30

Maftir Yonah: the Rabbi took it
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: rots5 on September 27, 2012, 03:23:48 AM
9:00-2:10 (20 min speech also) 
4:30-end (half hr speech)

and nothing gets sold, its a modern shul :-)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: harry on September 27, 2012, 05:24:46 AM
Dummy bidders not allowed anymore?

Transparency  ;)

Also first time in over 30 years that the regulars were outbid! And first time that someone besides the Rov got it.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: YOSEF on September 27, 2012, 09:11:33 AM
7a-7:50p with a 12 minute break.

Maftir Yonah- Shacaris for RH and YK (Baal Shachris got it)
PN- Given away.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ReadsTheT&C on September 27, 2012, 09:31:47 AM
Congregation Beit Sohar at Rikers Island

11:30AM-8:15PM with 1 hour of combined breaks
I did Maftir Yonah, no bartering of any sort allowed within the jail
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chaimmayer on September 27, 2012, 10:15:36 AM
7a-7:50p with a 12 minute break.

Shtark!!
Looks like you win :D
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mclovin on September 27, 2012, 10:37:39 AM
8-2:45
4:40-8 (including maariv. give or take a few minutes)

maftir yonah- 8,000
pesicha neilah- 18,000
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: springles on September 27, 2012, 11:25:52 AM
Congregation Beit Sohar at Rikers Island

11:30AM-8:15PM with 1 hour of combined breaks
I did Maftir Yonah, no bartering of any sort allowed within the jail
Ha, so someone didnt buy it for chai cigarettes?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Q274 on September 27, 2012, 11:35:35 AM
8 to 245 shacahris - musaf (thanks to the baal shacharis [which may or may not have been me  ;D]
430-730 mincha neila (10 min speach)

shishi for shacris- $600 (me)
maftir yonah- 600 (me)
pesicha neila 2000 (not me)
in somerset nj 
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ReadsTheT&C on September 27, 2012, 11:58:42 AM
Ha, so someone didnt buy it for chai cigarettes?
haha not exactly but surprisingly, or maybe not so, more than a few of the chevre in there were very familiar with dansdeals
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AsherO on September 27, 2012, 12:01:57 PM
haha not exactly but surprisingly, or maybe not so, more than a few of the chevre in there were very familiar with dansdeals

The inmates? Hope that's not what ended them up there ::)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 27, 2012, 12:02:58 PM
in somerset nj
Efoh b'diyuk? ;)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chaimmayer on September 27, 2012, 12:05:38 PM
8:00 - 300 shachris musaf
5-8:20 mincha neilah maariv

they don't sell any honors and even gave maftir yonah to a levi ???
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2012, 12:14:27 PM
they don't sell any honors and even gave maftir yonah to a levi ???
WTH?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chaimmayer on September 27, 2012, 12:25:07 PM
there was no kohen so a levi got rishon (big shul just a lack of kohanim) then a yisrael and then a levi.

  I dunno last year they wanted to give it to a different Levi (a good guy out of a job) so the rabbi looked into it and came up with a heter if they just call him up by his name and don't say "halevi"

Oh right you're a levi and you always figured you couldn't get it maybe you'll have to come here and get your chance :D
Title: Re: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: smurf on September 27, 2012, 12:27:43 PM
there was no kohen so a levi got rishon (big shul just a lack of kohanim) then a yisrael and then a levi.

  I dunno last year they wanted to give it to a different Levi (a good guy out of a job) so the rabbi looked into it and came up with a heter if they just call him up by his name and don't say "halevi"

Oh right you're a levi and you always figured you couldn't get it maybe you'll have to come here and get your chance :D
I thought they did three leviim in a row
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chaimmayer on September 27, 2012, 12:31:10 PM
were you here? 
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2012, 12:32:47 PM
I thought they did three leviim in a row
That would make more sense.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chaimmayer on September 27, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
That would make more sense.
Not sure if that is any better
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: JEWDA on September 27, 2012, 02:07:39 PM
Efoh b'diyuk? ;)
I assume he was here  http://www.jewishheritagecenter.com/images/stories/Documents/rh08-brochure%20email.pdf
Title: Re: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: smurf on September 27, 2012, 03:08:35 PM
Not sure if that is any better
probably better.  like when you do yisrael bimkom cohen you can't call up a levi
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2012, 03:09:16 PM
like when you do yisrael bimkom cohen you can't call up a levi
Huh?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on September 27, 2012, 03:13:13 PM
If there's no kohen and you call a yisrael instead, you can't call up. Levi after him.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Q274 on September 27, 2012, 03:45:37 PM
Yup- I was at the somerset hotel
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: JEWDA on September 27, 2012, 03:46:34 PM
Yup- I was at the somerset hotel
Hows the hotel?
Title: Re: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: harry on September 27, 2012, 05:36:31 PM
I thought they did three leviim in a row

Yes. A minyan of just Leviim would work
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: smurf on September 27, 2012, 06:10:15 PM
If there's no kohen and you call a yisrael instead, you can't call up. Levi after him.
+1
that's what I was referring to. and that having been said is why I assumed
I thought they did three leviim in a row
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Q274 on September 28, 2012, 08:01:40 AM
@jewda, twas very nice B'H- truth be told, it was yom kippur, so not much going on, rosh hashanah was MUCH nicer.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yaalili on September 14, 2013, 10:23:05 PM
770 Downstairs
Shacharis-Musaf: 10:00-3:30
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-8:00
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: DovtheBear on September 14, 2013, 10:28:15 PM
ZAI of 14th Ave.
Shachris-Mussaf: 7:30am-3:25pm
Mincha-Neilah: 5:05pm-8:07pm
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on September 14, 2013, 10:35:40 PM
Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-8:20

Psicha for kol nidrei 32x chai
Maftir Yonah $1,100
Psicha for Neilah 300x chai.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: DovtheBear on September 14, 2013, 10:37:01 PM
Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-8:20

Psicha for kol nidrei 32x chai
Maftir Yonah $1,100
Psicha for Neilah 300x chai.
Who got Levi?  :P
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Jkhein on September 14, 2013, 10:57:27 PM
Grand shul in Moscow, Russia
Maftir Yona $660,000
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: sky121 on September 14, 2013, 10:57:50 PM
Grand shul in Moscow, Russia
Maftir Yona $660,000
Wow.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MarkS on September 14, 2013, 10:59:45 PM
http://matzav.com/maftir-yonah-for-660000-dollars-pesichah-for-kol-nidrei-for-1-million-shekel
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AJK on September 14, 2013, 11:00:08 PM
Grand shul in Moscow, Russia
Maftir Yona $660,000

Seriously?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: DovtheBear on September 14, 2013, 11:00:24 PM
Wow.
Seriously?
Who has that kind of money, there?
Edit: And who bid against him?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ayman on September 14, 2013, 11:03:41 PM
Who has that kind of money, there?
Edit: And who bid against him?
Aren't there more billionaires in russia than any other country?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ayman on September 14, 2013, 11:04:37 PM
Maftir Yonah was $4500 and then given to the guy that was outbid!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AJK on September 14, 2013, 11:06:51 PM
Maftir Yonah was $4500 and then given to the guy that was outbid!

Love it.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: DovtheBear on September 14, 2013, 11:11:10 PM
Aren't there more billionaires in russia than any other country?
That are buying Psicha?
Love it.
+100
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ShmuliT on September 14, 2013, 11:29:43 PM

770 Downstairs
Shacharis-Musaf: 10:00-3:30
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-8:00
+ broken AC
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yaalili on September 15, 2013, 01:06:00 AM
+ broken AC

Don't know where you were, it was really cold in the front.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: rots5 on September 15, 2013, 01:50:58 AM
9-230 morning
615-738 neila
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 15, 2013, 02:00:13 AM
Yeshiva Aderes Hatorah, Jerusalem

Sachris/Mussaf: 7:00-2:00
Mincha: 3:25-430ish
Ne'ilah: 5:40-7:23
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: whYME on September 15, 2013, 03:07:10 AM
I guess the advantage of davening in a small shul where theren't many rich people is that p'sicha for neilah only went for $360...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: rots5 on September 15, 2013, 03:40:00 AM
I guess the advantage of davening in a small shul where theren't many rich people is that p'sicha for neilah only went for $360...
neila by me was free. and the guy who gets it, has been for the past 10 yrs. theres no bidding on anything where i davened.

#modox
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on September 15, 2013, 08:59:59 AM
I got psicha by mincha for $15.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AnonymousUser on September 15, 2013, 09:14:09 AM
BMG Princeton
Shacharis-Musaf: 6:40-3:15
Mincha-Neilah: 4:30-8:20

This was the first time I had a break on Yom Kippur in over 10 years. I guess I wasn't the only one who felt that way, because when they announced "Mincha 4:30", the guy next to me turned to me and asked "What do we do now?" :)
#OhTheProblemsInLife
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Super Speed on September 15, 2013, 09:17:35 AM
Started at 7AM finished 9:15PM. (No breaks)

Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Super Speed on September 15, 2013, 09:18:20 AM
I got psicha by mincha for $15.
I got it for free! ;)

Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on September 15, 2013, 09:36:36 AM
I got psicha by mincha for $15.
I paid $72.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on September 15, 2013, 09:41:44 AM
That's because you guys are busy with the chai thing.
I guess you bid in $18 increments.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on September 15, 2013, 09:47:29 AM
That's because you guys are busy with the chai thing.
I guess you bid in $18 increments.
Who is you guys?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 15, 2013, 09:49:45 AM
9:00-3:00
5:30-8:00
Title: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Racer7400 on September 15, 2013, 09:49:57 AM
Kollel in deal:
shacharis 7:00-11:30
Musaf 11:45-2:30
Mincha 3:30-5:45
Neilah 6:10-7:45 w/ 10min shmuz
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: YOSEF on September 15, 2013, 09:51:18 AM
T
Shachris-Mussaf-Mincha 7:00am-4:46pm.
Shmuess-Neilah 5:00pm-7:26pm

(A total of a 14 minute break for almost 12.5 hours)
7a-7:50p with a 12 minute break.

Maftir Yonah- Shacaris for RH and YK (Baal Shachris got it)
PN- Given away.
Shachris/Mussaf/Mincha 7a-5:25p
Shmuess-Neila 5:45p-8:14p (without Maariv).
So, long break this year...a whole 20 minutes (although it took longer than the last 2 years, as the zman was later).
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on September 15, 2013, 10:11:57 AM
Who is you guys?
Chabad?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AsherO on September 15, 2013, 10:32:31 AM
Love it.

+1, loser get's "stuck" reading Maftir Yona, I like! :P

/tongueincheek
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: good sam on September 15, 2013, 10:52:04 AM
I got psicha by mincha for $15.
Always a hard sell- you have to be back on time.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on September 15, 2013, 10:58:09 AM
Chabad?
We're the only ones that do things by Chai?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on September 15, 2013, 11:07:45 AM
Seems like you're busy with it more than others.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Centro on September 15, 2013, 11:28:47 AM
We're the only ones that do things by Chai?
Nops, all chasidisha places do, AFAIK.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 15, 2013, 11:29:25 AM
Nops, all chasidisha places do, AFAIK.
Only Chassidishe places? :-\
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ayman on September 15, 2013, 11:30:19 AM
+1, loser get's "stuck" reading Maftir Yona, I like! :P

/tongueincheek
LOL. We actually have Yonah in Klaf so the Baal Koreh reading it anyways.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Centro on September 15, 2013, 11:35:34 AM
Only Chassidishe places? :-\
That I left for you to tell us.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 15, 2013, 11:37:22 AM
That I left for you to tell us.
Been in plenty of non-Chassidish Shuls who donate in Chai's
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Super Speed on September 15, 2013, 11:58:02 AM
Been in plenty of non-Chassidish Shuls who donate in Chai's
+100

Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Racer7400 on September 15, 2013, 12:42:40 PM
Been in plenty of non-Chassidish Shuls who donate in Chai's
is it chai's or special numbers like 18, 26, 36, 52, 72....which i think everybody uses to some extent, and some of those are not multiples of chai.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AnonymousUser on September 15, 2013, 12:51:16 PM
is it chai's or special numbers like 18, 26, 36, 52, 72....which i think everybody uses to some extent, and some of those are not multiples of chai.
26 is the gematria of the shaim havayah, 52 is double.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: aygart on September 15, 2013, 01:18:39 PM
26 is the gematria of the shaim havayah, 52 is double.
I've found that sfardim are more likely to use 26
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 15, 2013, 01:22:16 PM
I've found that sfardim are more likely to use 26
Also 101 (Gimatria מיכאל)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Racer7400 on September 15, 2013, 01:32:09 PM
26 is the gematria of the shaim havayah, 52 is double.
what i meant was that its not necessarily multiples of chai. 72 happens to be 4x chai but other used numbers are not.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Shreknit on September 15, 2013, 02:38:23 PM
Small minyan hasevanu in Queens. Got maftir yonah for 200 now thats a deal!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 15, 2013, 02:47:26 PM
Small minyan hasevanu in Queens. Got maftir yonah for 200 now thats a deal!
Considering all the years I got it for free...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Shreknit on September 15, 2013, 03:11:15 PM
Considering all the years I got it for free...
Thats extremely unusual
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: aryeh1 on September 15, 2013, 03:14:08 PM
Psicha neila went for 3600
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 15, 2013, 04:48:33 PM
$660,000=~3666*18  8)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Jerseysteve on September 15, 2013, 05:22:54 PM
36666x18
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: DovtheBear on September 15, 2013, 05:24:42 PM
http://matzav.com/maftir-yonah-for-660000-dollars-pesichah-for-kol-nidrei-for-1-million-shekel?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ShmuliT on September 15, 2013, 05:40:30 PM
The Shuls would prefer if bidding was in increments of מת!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: whYME on September 15, 2013, 05:49:33 PM
http://matzav.com/maftir-yonah-for-660000-dollars-pesichah-for-kol-nidrei-for-1-million-shekel?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://matzav.com/maftir-yonah-for-660000-dollars-pesichah-for-kol-nidrei-for-1-million-shekel?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
REPOST!!!! (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3610.msg584030#msg584030)

(Sorry, I haven't seen that in a while and I'm feeling kinda nostalgic...)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ari101 on September 15, 2013, 06:40:20 PM
http://matzav.com/maftir-yonah-for-660000-dollars-pesichah-for-kol-nidrei-for-1-million-shekel?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
REPOST!!!! (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3610.msg584030#msg584030)

(Sorry, I haven't seen that in a while and I'm feeling kinda nostalgic...)
Someone starts discussing a previously discussed topic and you blurt out "there's a thread for that!".

OR

Someone shows you a picture/video you've already seen or tells you a joke you've already heard etc. and you have to hold back from saying "REPOST!".
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: DovtheBear on September 15, 2013, 08:18:09 PM
REPOST!!!! (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3610.msg584030#msg584030)

(Sorry, I haven't seen that in a while and I'm feeling kinda nostalgic...)
That's OK. You're entitled. :)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 18, 2013, 06:04:29 AM
Been in plenty of non-Chassidish Shuls who donate in Chai's

+18 :D
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 04, 2014, 10:51:46 PM
How long did it take in your shul?

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:15
Mincha-Neilah: 6:00-8:15

I bought psicha for kol nidrei for 4x chai and levi by mincha for 7x chai.
Maftir Yonah went for $770 and Psicha for Neilah went for 110x chai.

2011:

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-2:45
Mincha-Neilah: 5:15-7:40

Maftir Yona: $770
Neilah: 70 x $18

Chabad of Beachwood, OH
9:30a-3:00p
5:30-8:00p

Maftir Yonah was sold privately.
Neilah went for $3,600

I got Levi at Mincha though for just $90 :)

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-8:20

Psicha for kol nidrei 32x chai
Maftir Yonah $1,100
Psicha for Neilah 300x chai.

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-7:45

Psicha for kol nidrei 12x chai
Maftir Yonah $25x chai
Psicha for Neilah 450x chai.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: TimT on October 04, 2014, 10:57:15 PM
How much did Levi go for ?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 04, 2014, 10:57:28 PM
Psicha for Neilah 450x chai.
You?!?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 04, 2014, 11:03:28 PM
You?!?
Lol, no.
I bought the 12x pesicha/first torah of kol nidrei.

How much did Levi go for ?
Shacharis was 11x chai, I bought it for my father.
Mincha someone else got for 14x chai.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: smart brit on October 04, 2014, 11:05:56 PM
Lol, no.
I bought the 12x pesicha/first torah of kol nidrei.
Shacharis was 11x chai, I bought it for my father.
Mincha someone else got for 14x chai.
You pay with miles :P?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Centro on October 04, 2014, 11:09:48 PM
Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-7:45

Psicha for kol nidrei 12x chai
Maftir Yonah $25x chai
Psicha for Neilah 450x chai.
Is it a Chabad thing that everything is being sold by x Chai?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: dovy2 on October 04, 2014, 11:13:23 PM
Is it a Chabad thing that everything is being sold by x Chai?
These days is by yechi (10 bucks more)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 04, 2014, 11:14:30 PM
Is it a Chabad thing that everything is being sold by x Chai?
I suppose so.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AJK on October 04, 2014, 11:26:04 PM
Landers in Queens:

Shacharis-Musaf: 7:30-2:20
Mincha-Neilah: 3:45-7:45

Maftir Yonah $1050
Hagbah + gelilah by mincha $1900  :o
Psicha for Neilah $2100 (at least originally)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mochada on October 04, 2014, 11:38:49 PM
Atlanta:

Shachris, Mussaf, Mincha: 8:30- 3:30
Neilah: 6:30 - 8

All kibudim- 20x chai....and I was asked to do Maftir Yonah as they started rishon by mincha. Thought Southerners plan ahead...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: EJB on October 05, 2014, 12:08:06 AM
N. NJ (not Bergen County):

Shacharis-Musaf: 8:00-2:45
Mincha-Neilah: 4:35-7:25

Maftir Yonah, Hagbah + gelilah by mincha, Psicha for Neilah - 100k AA miles :)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: @Yehuda on October 05, 2014, 12:10:10 AM
Is it a Chabad thing that everything is being sold by x Chai?
My shul growing up was always x Chai.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: etech0 on October 05, 2014, 12:12:29 AM
I suppose so.
-1
They do it in my shul too
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: thaber on October 05, 2014, 12:16:44 AM
I suppose so.
-1, In plenty of litvishe places they sell by chai's, but not exclusively. i.e. $150, $180, $200
These days is by yechi (10 bucks more)
Now that would be only in Chabad :)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: avrumy22 on October 05, 2014, 12:17:42 AM
Young married guy in my shul tried to 'make the shul some money' by bidding up all the aliyos.

He got stuck with Maftir Yonah  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: thaber on October 05, 2014, 12:18:47 AM
Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-7:45

Psicha for kol nidrei 12x chai
Maftir Yonah $25x chai
Psicha for Neilah 450x chai.

Some rather severe fluctuations over the last four years.

Where I daven they don't sell anything. 7:45-3:15;  4:10- 8:05 with a 7 minute break
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: lubaby on October 05, 2014, 12:24:10 AM
Young married guy in my shul tried to 'make the shul some money' by bidding up all the aliyos.

He got stuck with Maftir Yonah  :P :P :P
For how much?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Chapshnell on October 05, 2014, 12:25:33 AM
My shul..

7:15am-11:45 shachris
11:45-12:30 break
12:30-7:46 leining, musaf, mincha & neila

All aliyos go for $2,500-$3,100 & shishi went for $100,000

Bobov
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: thaber on October 05, 2014, 12:27:59 AM
http://www.bhol.co.il/Article.aspx?id=74332 the Israeli scene
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MeirS on October 05, 2014, 02:27:08 AM
Rebbe's room -
Shabbos-Mussaf: 10:00-2:55
Mincha-Ne'ila: 5:00-well, it depends what you call the end. We had 4 Kadeishim after the tekiah.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yaalili on October 05, 2014, 02:55:01 AM
770 downstairs Minyan
Kol Nidrei: 6:30-8:35
Shacharis-Musaf: 10:00-3:35
Mincha-Neilah: 5:00-7:15

@http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=44864.msg912128#msg912128 - Was thinking about this at 2:30 when we saying it in 770 ;)...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: shauly on October 05, 2014, 03:57:18 AM
Midrash Shmuel:

Tefilas Zaka/Kol Nidrei/Maariv: 5:30-9:30
Shachris/Mussaf: 6:45-2:30
Mincha/Neila/Maariv: 3:40-7:07

Psicha for Neila and Mafter Yona went for $4000.

It was a beautiful davening.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Twin on October 05, 2014, 05:47:12 AM
Shacris/musaf/mincha/nilah/ 6:15am-6:40 pm with a 5 min break
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 05, 2014, 07:02:47 AM

@http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=44864.msg912128#msg912128 - Was thinking about this at 2:30 when we saying it in 770 ;)...
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=32128.msg932004#msg932004
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 05, 2014, 07:07:20 AM
The Chabad House where I Davened:
Shachris/Mussaf: 9:00-3:30
Mincha/Neila/Maariv: 5:00-7:30
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: @Yehuda on October 05, 2014, 07:37:11 AM
Eldridge Street

Shacharis-Mincha 9:45-4
2 hour break
Neilah 6-7:22

A slow year, but as always still nice to Daven in a beautiful Shul where you can have an entire section to yourself to focus on your Shemonah Esrei.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Sport on October 05, 2014, 08:12:52 AM

Eldridge Street

Shacharis-Mincha 9:45-4
2 hour break
Neilah 6-7:22

A slow year, but as always still nice to Daven in a beautiful Shul where you can have an entire section to yourself to focus on your Shemonah Esrei.
Is Rabbi Shoshani still the rabbi there?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: sillypainter on October 05, 2014, 08:38:25 AM
8:00am-7:45PM for the whole thing. 30 minutes break.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mercaz1 on October 05, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
815-230
430-725

psicha dneila- $7000
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: @Yehuda on October 05, 2014, 11:04:50 AM
Is Rabbi Shoshani still the rabbi there?
Not sure which Shoshani is a Rabbi, but if you mean the one who was Chazzan for a few years, nope. He (and his family) stopped coming about 5 years ago, unfortunately. My uncle has been the acting Rabbi (and Shacharis Chazzan) for the Yamim Noraim for several decades. ("Acting" since the Shul doesn't really have a Rabbi all year long.)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Mountain Man on October 05, 2014, 11:11:14 AM
http://www.bhol.co.il/Article.aspx?id=74332 the Israeli scene
Gosh this is basically US Weekly for chasidim.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: sb5917 on October 05, 2014, 11:25:29 AM
My shul..

shishi went for $100,000

izzy englender?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yaalili on October 05, 2014, 01:07:08 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=32128.msg932004#msg932004

:)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: lubaby on October 05, 2014, 01:53:48 PM
The Chabad House where I Davened:
Shachris/Mussaf: 10:00-2:45
Mincha/Neila/Maariv: 5:30-7:30

BH managed to get in a nice nap there ;)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: cozmohoot on October 05, 2014, 01:56:42 PM
9-145 shachris. 530 mincha. Khal sosnowitz
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: YOSEF on October 06, 2014, 12:23:52 AM
Shachris-Mussaf-Mincha 7:00am-4:46pm.
Shmuess-Neilah 5:00pm-7:26pm

(A total of a 14 minute break for almost 12.5 hours)
7a-7:50p with a 12 minute break.

Maftir Yonah- Shacaris for RH and YK (Baal Shachris got it)
PN- Given away.
Shachris/Mussaf/Mincha 7a-5:25p
Shmuess-Neila 5:45p-8:14p (without Maariv).
So, long break this year...a whole 20 minutes (although it took longer than the last 2 years, as the zman was later).
7a-7:38p with an 11 minute break.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: avremie on October 06, 2014, 12:03:15 PM
7a-7:38p with an 11 minute break.
Where do u daven?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Emkay on October 06, 2014, 12:18:34 PM
7a-7:38p with an 11 minute break.
Yekkish?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: shnoz on October 06, 2014, 01:33:40 PM
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/263812/a-possible-record-breaker-360000-for-yom-kippur-pesicha.html
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: shnoz on October 06, 2014, 01:49:01 PM
izzy englender?
Yes
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: rots5 on October 06, 2014, 04:03:50 PM
Young Israel of Harrison

shacris 9:00 - 2:30
mincha/neila 5:45-7:00
marriv ended 7:15

Everything is given out for free
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on October 06, 2014, 04:23:40 PM
Is there a mekor for spending on Maftir Yona or it's just a marketing tactic on gabai came up with?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 06, 2014, 04:25:19 PM
The Alter Rebbe wrote in the machzor that buying psicha/1st torah for kol nidrei is a big mitzvah.
Don't think it says anything about Yona or Neilah.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 06, 2014, 04:25:51 PM
Yona is supposed to be a Segulah for Parnassah.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 06, 2014, 04:28:15 PM
As is giving tzedaka :D
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on October 06, 2014, 04:37:00 PM
Yona is supposed to be a Segulah for Parnassah.
HELLLOOOO??

I asked for a mekor = SOURCE.

I'm also supposed to be normal. That doesn't mean anything.

I couldn't find any reliable source.
Its just an excellent marketing pitch - that gabai who figured this out can definitely compete with the inventor of the ALS ice bucket challenge.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 06, 2014, 04:53:34 PM
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/263812/a-possible-record-breaker-360000-for-yom-kippur-pesicha.html
who bid him up? ;)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 06, 2014, 04:53:59 PM
HELLLOOOO??

I asked for a mekor = SOURCE.

I'm also supposed to be normal. That doesn't mean anything.

I couldn't find any reliable source.
Its just an excellent marketing pitch - that gabai who figured this out can definitely compete with the inventor of the ALS ice bucket challenge.
you checked nitei gavreiel?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 06, 2014, 04:54:04 PM
HELLLOOOO??

I asked for a mekor = SOURCE.

I'm also supposed to be normal. That doesn't mean anything.

I couldn't find any reliable source.
Its just an excellent marketing pitch - that gabai who figured this out can definitely compete with the inventor of the ALS ice bucket challenge.
A brief (and due to lack of time, uncomprehensive) search brought up this:
Quote
בפסקי תשובות חלק ו' עמ' רצ"ט מובא בשם ספר 'המלך במסיבו'

ח"א עמ' ע"ג שמפטיר יונה נותן לאדם כח לתשובה, וגם סגולה לעשירות.
I don't have the Seforim mentioned available but if someone does you can look it up...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on October 06, 2014, 04:56:15 PM
A brief (and due to lack of time, uncomprehensive) search brought up this:I don't have the Seforim mentioned available but if someone does you can look it up...
And you're that sure that the author of 'המלך במסיבו' was not that successful shul gabai?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 06, 2014, 04:58:12 PM
And you're that sure that the author of 'המלך במסיבו' was not that successful shul gabai?
As I said I didn't look up the sources, do whatever you want with them...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 06, 2014, 05:15:08 PM
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Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on October 06, 2014, 05:57:31 PM
.
That's just repeating your earlier post.

Still have no cue who the holy 'המלך במסיבו' is.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 06, 2014, 06:44:07 PM
That's just repeating your earlier post.

Still have no cue who the holy 'המלך במסיבו' is.
המלך במסיבו is a book of transcripts of conversations the Lubavitcher Rebbe ZT"L had during the Yom Tov meals with his guests.
This particular statement the Rebbe said in the name of the Rebbe Raya"tz (the 6th Lubavitcher Rebbe).
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on October 06, 2014, 06:52:29 PM
המלך במסיבו is a book of transcripts of conversations the Lubavitcher Rebbe ZT"L had during the Yom Tov meals with his guests.
This particular statement the Rebbe said in the name of the Rebbe Raya"tz (the 6th Lubavitcher Rebbe).
So that's the only source for what yidden all over the world spend thousands of thousands of dollars.

Tell that to the guy who spent $1,000 in AJK's shul. Its based on a transcript of a conversation of Lubavitcher Rabbe.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 06, 2014, 07:30:02 PM
So that's the only source for what yidden all over the world spend thousands of thousands of dollars.

Tell that to the guy who spent $1,000 in AJK's shul. Its based on a transcript of a conversation of Lubavitcher Rabbe.
You asked, I searched, I posted. Why you yelling at me? You tell that to the guy :P
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AJK on October 06, 2014, 07:34:47 PM
who bid him up? ;)

Had the same question. Somehow I don't think he was.

So that's the only source for what yidden all over the world spend thousands of thousands of dollars.

Tell that to the guy who spent $1,000 in AJK's shul. Its based on a transcript of a conversation of Lubavitcher Rabbe.

You're asking a good question, one to which I would also like the answer.

I've heard from a bunch of places, tho I don't have a source that both MY and PN are big segulos, the former for children, the latter for wealth.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 06, 2014, 07:38:23 PM
http://www.kooker.co.il/למה-הגביר-קנה-מפטיר-יונה--השידוך-שנגמ/
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 06, 2014, 07:40:17 PM
For the record, I saw somewhere that in old Machzorim the Girsa is a bit different. There it says that Ashirus is a Segulah for Maftir Yonah...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 06, 2014, 09:26:41 PM
:)
Though not in CLE
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on October 07, 2014, 01:47:33 PM
For the record, I saw somewhere that in old Machzorim the Girsa is a bit different. There it says that Ashirus is a Segulah for Maftir Yonah...
ALOL!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on October 07, 2014, 01:49:18 PM
Had the same question. Somehow I don't think he was.

You're asking a good question, one to which I would also like the answer.

I've heard from a bunch of places, tho I don't have a source that both MY and PN are big segulos, the former for children, the latter for wealth.

A true internet boy.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Ergel on October 07, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Mishnah berurah does say it's a big zechus to get an aliyah and Yomim Noraim and even if one has to pay, he should (he says adrabah, a mitzvah that comes with paying is even more valuable).
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AJK on October 07, 2014, 03:01:08 PM
Mishnah berurah does say it's a big zechus to get an aliyah and Yomim Noraim and even if one has to pay, he should (he says adrabah, a mitzvah that comes with paying is even more valuable).

Yeah, that I saw last week; but I was sure that I heard both were segulos...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: skyguy918 on October 07, 2014, 03:11:15 PM
Mishnah berurah does say it's a big zechus to get an aliyah and Yomim Noraim and even if one has to pay, he should (he says adrabah, a mitzvah that comes with paying is even more valuable).
IINM, it's an aliyah during aseres yemei tshuva. No one bids on shlishi of Monday and Thursday during aseres yemei tshuva though (actually some places do, but it doesn't go for $k's).
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on October 07, 2014, 03:16:42 PM
Mishnah berurah does say it's a big zechus to get an aliyah and Yomim Noraim and even if one has to pay, he should (he says adrabah, a mitzvah that comes with paying is even more valuable).
Nothing specifically about (let's be cool) MY.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Ergel on October 07, 2014, 03:35:51 PM
IINM, it's an aliyah during aseres yemei tshuva. No one bids on shlishi of Monday and Thursday during aseres yemei tshuva though (actually some places do, but it doesn't go for $k's).
But you are mistaken
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Ergel on October 07, 2014, 03:58:46 PM
Nothing specifically about (let's be cool) MY.
I'm aware. If you are looking for a "real" source, I imagine that's as far as it's going to go.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: skyguy918 on October 07, 2014, 04:34:27 PM
But you are mistaken
I stand corrected. I had asked the Rov of the shul I sometimes daven shachris in during the week why the minhag is to sell everything throughout aseres yemei tshuva and he said it's this special inyan of getting an aliyah during this time. I just linked that in my mind to the aforementioned mishna berura, I wonder if there's another mekor that says all of aseres yemei tshuva.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on October 07, 2014, 04:53:57 PM
I'm aware. If you are looking for a "real" source, I imagine that's as far as it's going to go.
That's the funny part about it. So much money is being spent all over the world because... ahem..
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: skyguy918 on October 08, 2014, 10:31:12 AM
That's the funny part about it. So much money is being spent all over the world because... ahem..
Spent? It's still tzedaka, is it not?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on October 08, 2014, 11:12:48 AM
Spent? It's still tzedaka, is it not?
Cooome on
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AJK on October 08, 2014, 11:39:43 AM
Spent? It's still tzedaka, is it not?

Of course.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: skyguy918 on October 08, 2014, 11:56:27 AM
Of course.
It was rhetorical. Apparently mesh doesn't view it quite that way.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: meshugener on October 21, 2014, 09:41:52 PM
It was rhetorical. Apparently mesh doesn't view it quite that way.
Then I'm not sure what your point was.
But let's move on.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 21, 2014, 09:50:19 PM
It was rhetorical. Apparently mesh doesn't view it quite that way.
Ummm... Everyone moved on before you bumped this back up...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: yoruel on September 18, 2015, 09:45:08 AM
Is the Telz Nusach online anywhere?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: keepsmiling123 on September 18, 2015, 10:27:33 AM
Mishnah berurah does say it's a big zechus to get an aliyah and Yomim Noraim and even if one has to pay, he should (he says adrabah, a mitzvah that comes with paying is even more valuable).

I thought it was any Kibbud (Psicha included)....at least thats wat Landers always announced
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: skyguy918 on September 18, 2015, 11:45:26 AM
I thought it was any Kibbud (Psicha included)....at least thats wat Landers always announced
Of course, they get more money that way ::)

But no, the משנה ברורה doesn't actually say anything other than aliyah:
Quote from: מ"ב תקפד-ח
ראוי לכל גבר ירא ד' להשתדל שיהיה לו עליה בימים נוראים ואף במקומות שמוכרין מצות יקנה אותו בדמים כפי יכולתו ואדרבה יש עילוי יותר במצוה שבאה אליו בדמים ממצוה שבאה לו בחנם אין כסף

There may of course be other sources that expand the idea to all kibudim.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on September 23, 2015, 11:49:53 PM
How long did it take in your shul?

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:15
Mincha-Neilah: 6:00-8:15

I bought psicha for kol nidrei for 4x chai and levi by mincha for 7x chai.
Maftir Yonah went for $770 and Psicha for Neilah went for 110x chai.

2011:

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-2:45
Mincha-Neilah: 5:15-7:40

Maftir Yona: $770
Neilah: 70 x $18

Chabad of Beachwood, OH
9:30a-3:00p
5:30-8:00p

Maftir Yonah was sold privately.
Neilah went for $3,600

I got Levi at Mincha though for just $90 :)

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-8:20

Psicha for kol nidrei 32x chai
Maftir Yonah $1,100
Psicha for Neilah 300x chai.

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-7:45

Psicha for kol nidrei 12x chai
Maftir Yonah 25x chai
Psicha for Neilah 450x chai.
Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-8:05

Psicha for kol nidrei 27x chai
Maftir Yonah 15x chai
Psicha for Neilah 370x chai.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: coralsnake on September 23, 2015, 11:52:44 PM
9:30-3:15
5:15-7:55

Maftir Yona- 1800
Psicha Neila- 600
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: sams on September 23, 2015, 11:56:51 PM
7:30 am to 830 pm less then a 20 min break
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: grodnoking on September 23, 2015, 11:58:19 PM
7:30 am to 830 pm less then a 20 min break
7:10 to 8:30, five minute break.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: coralsnake on September 23, 2015, 11:59:00 PM
7:30 am to 830 pm less then a 20 min break
7:10 to 8:30, five minute break.
Brutal
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: sams on September 23, 2015, 11:59:15 PM

7:10 to 8:30, five minute break.
which yeshiva?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: grodnoking on September 23, 2015, 11:59:22 PM
Brutal
Tell me about it
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: grodnoking on September 23, 2015, 11:59:34 PM
which yeshiva?
Gettingers
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: TimT on September 24, 2015, 12:01:10 AM
7:10 to 8:30, five minute break.
72 was about 8:05. What time was maariv ?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: David Smith on September 24, 2015, 12:03:04 AM
7:45-8:10, break for yizkor and 25 minutes before mincha. Didn't sell aliyos, but about $350,000 in mi sheberachs.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: grodnoking on September 24, 2015, 12:03:13 AM
72 was about 8:05. What time was maariv ?
8:10 marriv davening is always long
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: miles lover on September 24, 2015, 12:11:55 AM
Brutal
Brutal ????? I call 9:30 to 3:00 brutal.
 
U don't make zman krias shma with the brachos on yom kippur
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on September 24, 2015, 12:13:22 AM
Brutal ????? I call 9:30 to 3:00 brutal.
 
U don't make zman krias shma with the brachos on yom kippur
That's why you say K"S beforehand/during korbanos.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yaalili on September 24, 2015, 12:13:37 AM
770 downstairs:
Shacharis-Musaf: 10:00-3:10
Mincha-Neilah: 5:00-7:45
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Super Speed on September 24, 2015, 12:14:32 AM
Shachris straight through Maariv, no breaks, 7-9:30
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: TimT on September 24, 2015, 12:15:13 AM
Shachris straight through Maariv, no breaks, 7-9:30
9:30 ? Why ?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: David Smith on September 24, 2015, 12:16:24 AM
Shachris straight through Maariv, no breaks, 7-9:30
Wow. Where?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: miles lover on September 24, 2015, 12:16:27 AM
That's why you say K"S beforehand/during korbanos.
It's a different league to say shma b4 the zman with birchos krias shma. On yom kippur most shuls do that.
Anyhow I was more pointing out that he called brutal for a long davening when myself and many others will think it's brutal to have such a short davening.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Super Speed on September 24, 2015, 12:17:20 AM
9:30 ? Why ?
That's how long it takes.
Wow. Where?
My Yeshiva.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: David Smith on September 24, 2015, 12:22:06 AM


My Yeshiva.
Which one? (Unless that's personal.) I figured it was a yeshiva. No shul is finishing that late.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: jj1000 on September 24, 2015, 12:27:22 AM
Why do we have chazunus? When did it start?

Most people I talked to in shul today would prefer a davening with basically no chazunus at all. Seems like its a fairly new thing in Judaism.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MeirS on September 24, 2015, 12:34:01 AM
Chabad Jewish Center
At the other end of America

Shachris/Musaf - 9:30-12:40
Mincha/Ne'ilah - 5:30-8:01

We had a minyan for Kol Nidrei and for Leining of Shachris!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: koplonko on September 24, 2015, 12:36:13 AM
Kol hakavod
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: koplonko on September 24, 2015, 12:38:06 AM
Seems like its a fairly new thing in Judaism.
BS. If you don't like it, that's your business. But don't hack
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: yesitsme on September 24, 2015, 12:39:04 AM
5:10 - 7:35 waited 6 min till Zman to start maariv, 7:41-?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: jj1000 on September 24, 2015, 12:42:03 AM
BS. If you don't like it, that's your business. But don't hack
You think they had chazunus more than a few hundred years ago?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: TimT on September 24, 2015, 12:44:08 AM
5:10 - 7:35 waited 6 min till Zman to start maariv, 7:41-?
What did everybody do for those 6 minutes ?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: David Smith on September 24, 2015, 12:44:13 AM
You think they had chazunus more than a few hundred years ago? Probably of goyish orgins if I had to guess.
I don't think davening was 9:30-3:00 a few hundred years ago.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: jj1000 on September 24, 2015, 12:46:04 AM
I don't think davening was 9:30-3:00 a few hundred years ago.
Now you have me so curious. I wonder how the length of davening has developed through the ages.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: yesitsme on September 24, 2015, 12:46:35 AM
What did everybody do for those 6 minutes ?
Nigun Simcha
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: grodnoking on September 24, 2015, 01:22:44 AM
Nigun Simcha
I love the singing@ the end of.davening but now where.I.daven we end @76 minutes after the shkiah so.heads would fly if the chazen dared that.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Emkay on September 24, 2015, 01:59:06 AM
5:25-11:00
4:25-7:15
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: izieh on September 24, 2015, 02:09:49 AM
8-2:30
4:40-8:10 (end of kiddush levanah)
We had a drasha in between mincha/nielah and ~6-7 min of dancing after shofar before maariv
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: sammy n on September 24, 2015, 04:01:44 AM
5:30-11:00
4:00-7:15
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 24, 2015, 06:11:28 AM

We had a minyan for Kol Nidrei and for Leining of Shachris!
For the first time in my life I davened Kol Nidrei and Neilah without a minyan (we had 9 for Kol Nidrei and 11 for Neilah but they weren't all Jewish).

Shacharis/Musaf I davened at a local Nusach Ashkenazi Shul (another first for me).
9:00-4:00
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: a mirrer on September 24, 2015, 06:31:59 AM
8:00-1:00 shachris and musaf with a 20 minute break before leining
5:15-7:10 mincha and neila
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 24, 2015, 06:37:30 AM
Now you have me so curious. I wonder how the length of davening has developed through the ages.
If you look through the poskim/seforim it is brought down to be maarich in yk davening. From others it seems that YK Davening lasted all day.
In my machzor there was a discussion about saying ein kelokeinu, one sefer brought down said that since there is no time to say it, one can say it "whilst the chazzan is menagein hayom teamzeinu"
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AJK on September 24, 2015, 07:44:57 AM
Lander

7:45-2:25
4:00-7:50

MY: $1,000
PN: $3,500
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MeirS on September 24, 2015, 07:48:02 AM


In my machzor there was a discussion about saying ein kelokeinu, one sefer brought down said that since there is no time to say it, one can say it "whilst the chazzan is menagein hayom teamzeinu"

Do most people say it at the end of the morning service? In Chabad we only say it at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Moshe123 on September 24, 2015, 07:52:00 AM
Got Shachris Maftir for a $101 bargain.

The usual buyers didn't seem to be in the mood and things were going for rock-bottom prices. Except for Maftir Yonah and Pesicha by Neila.

Shachris: 8-12:40
Musaf-Mincha: 2-6:15
Neila: 6:40-8:04
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 24, 2015, 07:55:26 AM

Do most people say it at the end of the morning service? In Chabad we only say it at the end of the day.
Ashkenaz dosent say it on yk
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: skyguy918 on September 24, 2015, 09:11:49 AM
We had a seder in shul about an hour after YK, 30-40 guys for at least a half hour. Highly recommended, had a very special feel to it.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: David Smith on September 24, 2015, 09:14:01 AM
We had a seder in shul about an hour after YK, 30-40 guys for at least a half hour. Highly recommended, had a very special feel to it.
+1. We started a bit later than that, though.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: keepsmiling123 on September 24, 2015, 09:56:01 AM
We had a seder in shul about an hour after YK, 30-40 guys for at least a half hour. Highly recommended, had a very special feel to it.

Landers has one after YK which they call "show him you mean it"
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: dealfinder85 on September 24, 2015, 10:05:15 AM
Landers has one after YK which they call "show him you mean it"
what about those waiting at home for havdala?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: skyguy918 on September 24, 2015, 10:08:52 AM
what about those waiting at home for havdala?
I don't think anyone does it before eating. That would be pretty intense.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: keepsmiling123 on September 24, 2015, 10:13:06 AM
I don't think anyone does it before eating. That would be pretty intense.

It's an hr after the fast, plenty of time to eat
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: DMYD on September 24, 2015, 10:16:42 AM
7:30 11:30
12:30-8:05
 
Aliyos were from 2k-6k
Besides the Rabbi's it was 100k
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: dealfinder85 on September 24, 2015, 10:48:42 AM
I don't think anyone does it before eating. That would be pretty intense.
misread it
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: A3 on September 24, 2015, 10:59:05 AM
5:50-9:15
5:50-7:41
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: @Yehuda on September 24, 2015, 11:01:47 AM
9:45 - 4:00 including Mincha
6:30 - 7:41 Neilah (had to say every line of Avinu Malkeinu aloud to slow things down before Tzeis ;D)

All Kibuddim were free. Nice to get several Pesichos and Aliyos throughout the Yamim Noraim. :)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: 1050BU on September 24, 2015, 11:04:33 AM
8:00 (9:30) - 2:30
5:00 - 7:29
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Centro on September 24, 2015, 11:27:08 AM
7:30 11:30
12:30-8:05
 
Aliyos were from 2k-6k
Besides the Ruv's it was 100k
FTFY ^-^
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on September 24, 2015, 11:29:52 AM
FTFY ^-^
Why? Is that where the money is? ;)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: DMYD on September 24, 2015, 11:30:14 AM
5:50-9:15
5:50-7:41
And what was done from 9:15-5:50?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: A3 on September 24, 2015, 11:45:29 AM
And what was done from 9:15-5:50?
9:15-1:00 watch the kids.
1:00-3:00 sleep
3:00-5:45 watch the kids

Would like to know when I pissed as well?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: 1050BU on September 24, 2015, 11:50:31 AM

9:15-1:00 watch the kids.
1:00-3:00 sleep
3:00-5:45 watch the kids

Would like to know when I pissed as well?

Yes please
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Emkay on September 24, 2015, 02:20:27 PM
5:50-9:15
5:50-7:41
Wow that's fast!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: whYME on September 24, 2015, 02:31:34 PM
Anyone know who the chazzan was in 770 for mussaf?
I wasn't there but I heard he was very loud and very fast.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Ergel on September 25, 2015, 02:54:30 AM
7:50-3:05
5:00-8:25

Psicha kol nidrei: $300
Maftir yonah: for the rosh kollel - 10K (a few guys chip in)
Pesicha neilah: 10K
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MeirS on October 15, 2015, 03:16:36 PM
Anyone know who the chazzan was in 770 for mussaf?
I wasn't there but I heard he was very loud and very fast.
I heard that it was Rabbi Kenig from Israel. Apparently Nusach isn't his strong point but that's some loud voice that he has.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 13, 2016, 10:29:10 AM
How long did it take in your shul?

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:15
Mincha-Neilah: 6:00-8:15

I bought psicha for kol nidrei for 4x chai and levi by mincha for 7x chai.
Maftir Yonah went for $770 and Psicha for Neilah went for 110x chai.

2011:

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-2:45
Mincha-Neilah: 5:15-7:40

Maftir Yona: $770
Neilah: 70 x $18

Chabad of Beachwood, OH
9:30a-3:00p
5:30-8:00p

Maftir Yonah was sold privately.
Neilah went for $3,600

I got Levi at Mincha though for just $90 :)

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-8:20

Psicha for kol nidrei 32x chai
Maftir Yonah $1,100
Psicha for Neilah 300x chai.

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-7:45

Psicha for kol nidrei 12x chai
Maftir Yonah 25x chai
Psicha for Neilah 450x chai.

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-8:05

Psicha for kol nidrei 27x chai
Maftir Yonah 15x chai
Psicha for Neilah 370x chai.


Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:15-7:30

Psicha for kol nidrei 20x chai
Maftir Yonah 36x chai
Psicha for Neilah 400x chai.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: yesitsme on October 13, 2016, 10:42:40 AM
5:10 - 7:35 waited 6 min till Zman to start maariv, 7:41-?
Mincha-Neilah: 4:50 - 7:08, Mincha was originally supposed to be 4:45, to prevent what happened last year it was bumped 5 minutes
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: skyguy918 on October 13, 2016, 10:51:50 AM
Mincha-Neilah: 4:50 - 7:08, Mincha was originally supposed to be 4:45, to prevent what happened last year it was bumped 5 minutes
What was 7:08? My shul had neila ending at that zman as well (blew way past it though). Looks like maybe a fixed 50 minutes past shkiah, but I can't imagine why davka that zman.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: David Smith on October 13, 2016, 11:16:07 AM
What was 7:08? My shul had neila ending at that zman as well (blew way past it though). Looks like maybe a fixed 50 minutes past shkiah, but I can't imagine why davka that zman.
You finish maariv at 7:21 (60 min).
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mgarfin on October 13, 2016, 12:20:06 PM
7:50-3:05
5:00-8:25

Psicha kol nidrei: $300
Maftir yonah: for the rosh kollel - 10K (a few guys chip in)
Pesicha neilah: 10K

8:25 ?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mb1 on October 13, 2016, 12:24:42 PM
8:25 ?
last year
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: shmebeble on October 13, 2016, 12:40:29 PM
Lander college
7:30-2pm
3:330-7:05 (end of neilah)

Hagbahs and gelilas shacharis- $1850 most expensive except for neilah.
Pesicha neilah- there was a shady sale, under the table rumored at $6k total. Have a feeling someone on here can confirm ;)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: 12HRS on October 13, 2016, 01:51:05 PM
no 5 min break before neilah this year  :(

although i guess with yk ending 30 min earlier then last year i can't really complain
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mochjas on October 13, 2016, 02:34:53 PM
cool thread....

7:40-3:10
3:30-7:04

kol nidre 3100 X chai
neila 2400 X chai
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mochjas on October 13, 2016, 02:36:48 PM

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:15-7:30

Psicha for kol nidrei 20x chai
Maftir Yonah 36x chai
Psicha for Neilah 400x chai.
you didnt get anything this year?
I'm surprised they dont sell for SPG points in your shul!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 13, 2016, 02:38:44 PM
you didnt get anything this year?
I'm surprised they dont sell for SPG points in your shul!
I bought Psicha Kol Nidrei+holding the first torah for 20xchai, levi shachais for my father for 8xchai, shishi shacharis for my zayde for 10xchai, and levi mincha for myself for 9xchai :)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 13, 2016, 02:39:51 PM
cool thread....

7:40-3:10
3:30-7:04

kol nidre 3100 X chai
neila 2400 X chai
Shul?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: cholent on October 13, 2016, 03:35:20 PM
7:15-3
4-8

Maftir Yonah I bought for $750
Pesicha Neila $350
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: @Yehuda on October 13, 2016, 04:07:43 PM
I missed my 9:30 start and 3-4 hour break this year.  :'(
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: grodnoking on October 13, 2016, 05:23:50 PM
7:15-3
4-8

Maftir Yonah I bought for $750
Pesicha Neila $350
So other people ended at 8 too.

7:15 - 8, 2 15 minute breaks.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dr Moose on October 13, 2016, 06:13:22 PM
cool thread....

7:40-3:10
3:30-7:04

kol nidre 3100 X chai
neila 2400 X chai
Am I the only one who thinks these numbers are outrageous?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ben89 on October 13, 2016, 07:04:55 PM
Am I the only one who thinks these numbers are outrageous?
which numbers?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dr Moose on October 13, 2016, 07:07:12 PM
which numbers?
The amounts the kibudim go for.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ben89 on October 13, 2016, 07:07:49 PM
The amounts the kibudim go for.
yeh definitely outrageous. Davening 8:00-2:15 and mincha 3:50. That's the longest break I've had in years. I davened mussaf for the amud so maybe that helped 😉
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Super Speed on October 13, 2016, 07:12:06 PM
7:00-8:45 Shachris-Maariv (No breaks)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: henche on October 13, 2016, 07:14:13 PM
7:00-8:45 Shachris-Maariv (No breaks)

845? Where is tzeis so late?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Super Speed on October 13, 2016, 07:15:15 PM
845? Where is tzeis so late?
It wasn't based on Tzeis, that's just what time we finished.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ben89 on October 13, 2016, 07:16:33 PM
It wasn't based on Tzeis, that's just what time we finished.
wow I guess nobody was hungry
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: henche on October 13, 2016, 07:24:31 PM
wow I guess nobody was hungry

no, i bet they were all hungry
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 13, 2016, 08:12:04 PM
Tircha D'tzeibura?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MeirS on October 13, 2016, 08:17:02 PM
Chabad House

9:45-2:30
5:00-7:15

Any reports on time in 770? Upstairs, downstairs?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: keemster26 on October 13, 2016, 08:22:24 PM
The amounts the kibudim go for.
-1 if you think that's crazy you haven't been by sfardim
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: tzvicoco on October 13, 2016, 08:23:19 PM
7:45-1:40
4:50-7:30
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ben89 on October 13, 2016, 08:38:38 PM
Tircha D'tzeibura?
forsure but whoever was there probably knew already from past experience so it's their own fault
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Super Speed on October 13, 2016, 08:41:53 PM
Tircha D'tzeibura?
It's every year so if someone doesn't like it they need not go. I enjoy it.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: SrulyS on October 13, 2016, 08:44:55 PM
7:15 - 8, 2 15 minute breaks.
Me too.
  ::)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: grodnoking on October 13, 2016, 08:45:48 PM
Me too.
  ::)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ben89 on October 13, 2016, 08:49:50 PM
It's every year so if someone doesn't like it they need not go. I enjoy it.
wow I'm sure you get lot of schar for going the extra mile
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Super Speed on October 13, 2016, 08:50:26 PM
wow I'm sure you get lot of schar for going the extra mile
I hope! Lol!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 13, 2016, 08:51:19 PM
wow I'm sure you get lot of schar for going the extra mile
I hope! Lol!
Is that how it works? What if I go 2 days without eating?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yordai Dooma on October 13, 2016, 08:53:18 PM
It's every year so if someone doesn't like it they need not go. I enjoy it.
What about the wives waiting at home?
Title: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Super Speed on October 13, 2016, 08:54:39 PM
What about the wives waiting at home?
My wife broke her fast when we were starting Chazaras Hashatz for Neilah!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Super Speed on October 13, 2016, 08:55:50 PM
Is that how it works? What if I go 2 days without eating?
I don't think Yom Kippur is automatically over by Tzeis I think until your Mavdil or daven Marriv it's not over.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ben89 on October 13, 2016, 08:57:32 PM
Is that how it works? What if I go 2 days without eating?
thats not the point. He wasn't thinking the whole time about when he could eat rather concentrating more on davening and actually having more time of Yom Kippur than most people (tosfos Yom hakippurim)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Eliyohu on October 13, 2016, 10:32:56 PM
I don't think Yom Kippur is automatically over by Tzeis I think until your Mavdil or daven Marriv it's not over.
It is, once a person (man or women i.e whether they'll be davening maariv or not) says Boruch Hamavdil they may drink.
The rabbi  in my shul announced this before neilah.
To eat they would need Havdalah possibly for a lady whom finds it very difficult (nursing/pregnant) I'm sure u can find a rabbi who says they can eat as well.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: emak on October 13, 2016, 11:07:32 PM
What if I go 2 days without eating?
Interestingly, the Shulchan Aruch does mention such a Minhag, due to Sfeika D'Yoma.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MarkS on October 13, 2016, 11:08:50 PM
I read an article that when 2 day yom tov was established (even once we knew what day it's supposed to be) they considered doing a 2 day yom kippur but nixed it since it would be too hard to fast 2 days.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 13, 2016, 11:20:47 PM
Interestingly, the Shulchan Aruch does mention such a Minhag, due to Sfeika D'Yoma.
I read an article that when 2 day yom tov was established (even once we knew what day it's supposed to be) they considered doing a 2 day yom kippur but nixed it since it would be too hard to fast 2 days.
If we pick a day for Y"K is then why is there a safek for Sukkos anyway?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: 12HRS on October 13, 2016, 11:25:02 PM
If we pick a day for Y"K is then why is there a safek for Sukkos anyway?

No real safek we just keep minhag avosai now

Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 13, 2016, 11:26:11 PM
No real safek we just keep minhag avosai now
And did they keep 2 days Y"K?
Assuming they picked 1 date for Y"K, why did they have a safek for Sukkos?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: 12HRS on October 14, 2016, 12:14:01 AM
And did they keep 2 days Y"K?
Assuming they picked 1 date for Y"K, why did they have a safek for Sukkos?

They never kept two days yk due to sakana I believe.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 14, 2016, 12:20:18 AM
OK?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Eliyohu on October 14, 2016, 12:28:48 AM
They never kept two days yk due to sakana I believe.
Do some research, but I believe when the mir was in Shanghai there were some people who kept both days, most did one.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: 12HRS on October 14, 2016, 12:34:18 AM
Do some research, but I believe when the mir was in Shanghai there were some people who kept both days, most did one.

There have always been people who accepted upon themselves what the rabbis would not decree for the Hamon am
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Freddie on October 14, 2016, 12:35:04 AM
I bought Psicha Kol Nidrei+holding the first torah for 20xchai, levi shachais for my father for 8xchai, shishi shacharis for my zayde for 10xchai, and levi mincha for myself for 9xchai :)

I just found out some new DDF trivia. @Dan is a Levite.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: 12HRS on October 14, 2016, 12:35:43 AM
OK?

No Sakana issue by succos so the two days stays
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MeirS on October 14, 2016, 12:52:00 AM
I just found out some new DDF trivia. @Dan is a Levite.
I expected better of you.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Freddie on October 14, 2016, 12:55:58 AM
I expected better of you.
How would I know it before? It ever came up?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MeirS on October 14, 2016, 12:57:07 AM
How would I know it before? It ever came up?
I must've seen it somewhere. Maybe earlier in this thread.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: yochiek93 on October 14, 2016, 02:28:21 AM
I must've seen it somewhere. Maybe earlier in this thread.
Like the first post
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: dealfinder85 on October 14, 2016, 02:23:03 PM
It is, once a person (man or women i.e whether they'll be davening maariv or not) says Boruch Hamavdil they may drink.
The rabbi  in my shul announced this before neilah.
To eat they would need Havdalah possibly for a lady whom finds it very difficult (nursing/pregnant) I'm sure u can find a rabbi who says they can eat as well.
definitely not accepted by all
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Eliyohu on October 14, 2016, 02:40:19 PM
definitely not accepted by all
Source?
I believe it's a straight halacha...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Eliyohu on October 15, 2016, 07:41:40 PM
definitely not accepted by all

Source?
I believe it's a straight halacha...
Eta: i checked the Dirshu M"B hilchos yom kippur... where the M"B talks about Havdalah he brings the sdai chemed who quotes the minchas pittim who says it's assur and the sdai chemed is docheh his proof. He then brings a whole slew of "contemporary" poskim (r'sz, R elyashiv..) who seem to all agree that with boruch hamavdil it would be muttar to drink (some even without) then ends off with the C' HaG"riz Yuma that leaves with a tzruch iyun if it would be muttar, I looked up there and although he does leave off like that it seemed he is noteh ltzad heter.

Conclusion: seems like its only a daas yaachid who assurs
If u have some other source/ contemporary pose who assurs please post..
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: eliraps on October 15, 2016, 10:11:35 PM
Eta: i checked the Dirshu M"B hilchos yom kippur... where the M"B talks about Havdalah he brings the sdai chemed who quotes the minchas pittim who says it's assur and the sdai chemed is docheh his proof. He then brings a whole slew of "contemporary" poskim (r'sz, R elyashiv..) who seem to all agree that with boruch hamavdil it would be muttar to drink (some even without) then ends off with the C' HaG"riz Yuma that leaves with a tzruch iyun if it would be muttar, I looked up there and although he does leave off like that it seemed he is noteh ltzad heter.

Conclusion: seems like its only a daas yaachid who assurs
If u have some other source/ contemporary pose who assurs please post..
As far as hil. YK is concerned you may drink WATER before havdala and even before saying baruch hamavdil.
However, like every shabbos, according to kabala it is a sakana to drink WATER before havdala.
You can not drink other drinks before havdala
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Eliyohu on October 15, 2016, 10:19:45 PM


As far as hil. YK is concerned you may drink WATER before havdala and even before saying baruch hamavdil.

That's a machlokes (I believe) R Elyashiv and R Shlomo Zalmen


However, like every shabbos, according to kabala it is a sakana to drink WATER before havdala.
You can not drink other drinks before havdala

Source?
And other drinks as well as food seem to be shaila as to why it's any diff than water, linyan yom kippur, (although have not found a posek who says it's muttar) it's not necessarily the same halacha as every motsie shabbos
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: eliraps on October 16, 2016, 02:53:36 AM

That's a machlokes (I believe) R Elyashiv and R Shlomo Zalmen

 
Source?
And other drinks as well as food seem to be shaila as to why it's any diff than water, linyan yom kippur, (although have not found a posek who says it's muttar) it's not necessarily the same halacha as every motsie shabbos

Excuse me for not quoting exact sources, I'm not with my books. I'll be happy to if you pm me later.

It may be that r elyashiv is machmir but the mekal is not just rsz auerbach. Iirc it's explicit in shua harav, and almost explicit in mishna berura. (R elyashiv is often more machmir)

The point is that the prohibition to eat on yk finishes as soon as tosefes Yom Kippur does, I.e. A short while after three stars.

At that point a new prohibition starts. Namely, don't eat or drink or do melacha until you have made havdala (over wine for eating and just saying baruch hamavdil for melacha).
This is nothing unique to yk, every shabbos has this. And al pi halacha it does not apply to drinking water as is explicit in gemara and shu"a.

However the mekubalim are strict about drinking water - see sources quoted in kaf hachaim hil. Havdala.

Btw, by the same token, If you're in middle of a meal on the last day of pesach and your meal continues into the night, you are allowed to have chometz in that meal without making any king of havdala, and you can still say yalle veyavo in bentching. And the same would apply to eating out of the Sukah at the end of sukos.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: yesitsme on October 16, 2016, 04:22:54 AM
http://www.chabadlibrary.org/books/adhaz/sh/sh4/3/624/10.htm

https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/טור_אורח_חיים_תרכד
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chaimmayer on October 16, 2016, 01:20:56 PM
Btw, by the same token, If you're in middle of a meal on the last day of pesach and your meal continues into the night, you are allowed to have chometz in that meal without making any king of havdala, and you can still say yalle veyavo in bentching. And the same would apply to eating out of the Sukah at the end of sukos.
The Magen avraham says you can eat Chometz without havdala because havdala is on,y needed to be matir Melacha not for other issues.
However the mishna Brura there says not to do it because you would NOT be able to say yaale veyavo after eating Chometz.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: koplonko on October 18, 2016, 11:15:14 PM
The Magen avraham says you can eat Chometz without havdala because havdala is on,y needed to be matir Melacha not for other issues.
However the mishna Brura there says not to do it because you would NOT be able to say yaale veyavo after eating Chometz.
Incorrect. He says not to do it since he WILL need to say yaale veyavo and it will seem like a contradiction  (MB 491:1)
According to the way the SA Harav  explains it, he COULD eat chometz, SAY yaale veyavo,  and it will NOT be a contradiction
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: jj1000 on October 19, 2016, 06:58:37 AM
Gam Gam in Venice serves pizza at mashiach seuda. Can't remember if we did havdala first or not.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: AsherO on October 19, 2016, 07:59:58 AM
Gam Gam in Venice serves pizza at mashiach seuda. Can't remember if we did havdala first or not.

It's a Chabad "thing", to have Pesach'dike Chametz...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: jj1000 on October 19, 2016, 09:07:22 AM
It's a Chabad "thing", to have Pesach'dike Chametz...
No we had real pizza. Probably the best pizza I ever had.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 19, 2016, 09:09:34 AM
That's what Asher meant.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: koplonko on October 19, 2016, 10:59:07 AM
It's a Chabad "thing", to have Pesach'dike Chametz...
Probably to bring out the chidush of the SA Harav
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Ergel on October 20, 2016, 11:11:28 AM
Is that how it works? What if I go 2 days without eating?
There is a mitzvah d'oraisa to be mosif mechol al hakodesh
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Ergel on October 20, 2016, 11:18:29 AM
They never kept two days yk due to sakana I believe.
There were those who kept two days when it was a real safek. However, this was never imposed upon the hamon am. There is a question amongst the poskim if this is because Yom tov sheini, even when it was an actual safek, is only drabanan because midinah we follow rov or midinah you're really chayav but because of sakanah we only keep one day.
Either way, because there wasn't never two days Yom Kippur, the enactment of minhag avoiseinu in the Gemara never included Yom Kippur because there was no such minhag
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 20, 2016, 11:20:35 AM
There is a mitzvah d'oraisa to be mosif mechol al hakodesh
Does the mitzvah become greater if you extend for 5 minutes vs an hour vs 24 hours?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Ergel on October 20, 2016, 11:22:40 AM
Does the mitzvah become greater if you extend for 5 minutes vs an hour vs 24 hours?
Yes. The Mishna Berura is clear in hilchos shabbos that the more the better
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on October 20, 2016, 11:30:15 AM
Yes. The Mishna Berura is clear in hilchos shabbos that the more the better
My point remains, ain l'dovor sof. At what point do you draw the line?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Ergel on October 20, 2016, 11:31:19 AM
My point remains, ain l'dovor sof. At what point do you draw the line?
With that I don't disagree
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: dealfinder85 on October 20, 2016, 11:38:20 AM
Yes. The Mishna Berura is clear in hilchos shabbos that the more the better
IIRC, he quotes specific shitos as to how long the shiur is, so he recommends going with the longer shiur of tosefes
but to go longer than any shita holds, i would think, would not gain anything
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Eliyohu on October 20, 2016, 11:53:08 AM
There were those who kept two days when it was a real safek. However, this was never imposed upon the hamon am. There is a question amongst the poskim if this is because Yom tov sheini, even when it was an actual safek, is only drabanan because midinah we follow to or midinah you're really chalav but because of sakanah we only keep one day.
Either way, because there wasn't never two days Yom Kippur, the enactment of minhag avoiseinu in the Gemara never included Yom Kippur because there was no such minhag
Shulchan Aruch Harav hilchos yom kippur  discusses this and it's ramifications
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: TimT on September 30, 2017, 09:05:31 PM
BUMP
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: keepsmiling123 on September 30, 2017, 10:01:33 PM
Landers
8:00am-2:40pm
4:00pm-7:30pm

Maftir Yonah- $800
Pesicha Neila- $3,000
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: yoruel on September 30, 2017, 10:11:24 PM

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:15-7:30

Psicha for kol nidrei 20x chai
Maftir Yonah 36x chai
Psicha for Neilah 400x chai.
Can you update this year?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on September 30, 2017, 10:16:14 PM
How long did it take in your shul?

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:15
Mincha-Neilah: 6:00-8:15

I bought psicha for kol nidrei for 4x chai and levi by mincha for 7x chai.
Maftir Yonah went for $770 and Psicha for Neilah went for 110x chai.

2011:

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-2:45
Mincha-Neilah: 5:15-7:40

Maftir Yona: $770
Neilah: 70 x $18

Chabad of Beachwood, OH
9:30a-3:00p
5:30-8:00p

Maftir Yonah was sold privately.
Neilah went for $3,600

I got Levi at Mincha though for just $90 :)

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-8:20

Psicha for kol nidrei 32x chai
Maftir Yonah $1,100
Psicha for Neilah 300x chai.

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-7:45

Psicha for kol nidrei 12x chai
Maftir Yonah 25x chai
Psicha for Neilah 450x chai.

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-8:05

Psicha for kol nidrei 27x chai
Maftir Yonah 15x chai
Psicha for Neilah 370x chai.



Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:15-7:30

Psicha for kol nidrei 20x chai
Maftir Yonah 36x chai
Psicha for Neilah 400x chai.
Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-2:50
Mincha-Neilah: 5:15-7:50

Psicha for kol nidrei 21x chai
Maftir Yonah 30x chai
Psicha for Neilah 250x chai
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yaalili on September 30, 2017, 10:22:44 PM
770 in the Sukkah:
Shacharis-Musaf: 11:00-1:30
Mincha-Neilah: 6:00-7:20
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: rs242 on September 30, 2017, 10:32:53 PM
770 in the Sukkah:
Shacharis-Musaf: 11:00-1:30
Mincha-Neilah: 6:00-7:20
I know we did this already but really how can this be
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chevron on September 30, 2017, 10:39:57 PM
I finally did Hishtachaviya this year, I watched it done in israel but never had the courage.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chevron on September 30, 2017, 10:42:06 PM
770 in the Sukkah:
Shacharis-Musaf: 11:00-1:30
Mincha-Neilah: 6:00-7:20

Was there a kiddush 2-6? why would you rush on yom kippur ?!? do you know what the tefillot mean? what the piyutim mean?

ugh hate to say this motzey yk but why pray like that on yom hadin
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: rs242 on September 30, 2017, 10:45:12 PM
I finally did Hishtachaviya this year, I watched it done in israel but never had the courage.
What is that?
Was there a kiddush 2-6? why would you rush on yom kippur ?!? do you know what the tefillot mean? what the piyutim mean?

ugh hate to say this motzey yk but why pray like that on yom hadin
Well said
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Myccrabbi on September 30, 2017, 10:52:08 PM


Was there a kiddush 2-6? why would you rush on yom kippur ?!? do you know what the tefillot mean? what the piyutim mean?

ugh hate to say this motzey yk but why pray like that on yom hadin

Then don't say it lol.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 30, 2017, 10:53:23 PM
I finally did Hishtachaviya this year, I watched it done in israel but never had the courage.
Huh? Isn't this SOP??
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: joe1234 on September 30, 2017, 11:03:37 PM
770 in the Sukkah:
Shacharis-Musaf: 11:00-1:30
Mincha-Neilah: 6:00-7:20
What do you do till 11 and 1:30-6:00 ?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: skyguy918 on September 30, 2017, 11:04:14 PM
Huh? Isn't this SOP??
We do kida, not hishtachavaya.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: nobiggy on September 30, 2017, 11:18:36 PM
Was there a kiddush 2-6?
:o ::)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Moshe123 on October 01, 2017, 12:20:35 AM
Was there a kiddush 2-6? why would you rush on yom kippur ?!? do you know what the tefillot mean? what the piyutim mean?

ugh hate to say this motzey yk but why pray like that on yom hadin

What one Yom Kippur can do to Chevron!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chevron on October 01, 2017, 01:14:44 AM
What's sop?  Keriyah is what most people do AFAIK, "hayu korim, umishtachavim, umodim venoflim Al peneihem "

So I go on my knees, then bend over as most then this year I fully stretched out my entire body.

I use the Koren sacks machzor in a chabad shull, I'm always behind, I alternate between Hebrew and English. We finished about 8pm.

I seriously was not prepared at all. Just getting into that mindframe.  To really say the Cohen gadols viduy and feel it, yom kippur is the zenith of collective and personal supplication.

I pray for me, for my community, the nation of Israel for all man kind.

I'd need a few more months to be ready! And we (chabad) use a very shortened piyut version. If we said all, I'd need 6 months just to be ready and a few days to pray it all.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chevron on October 01, 2017, 01:20:24 AM
If you read the tefillah fast in Hebrew, you are killing yourself! Why do we say X, who wrote y, what's the meaning iof mesod chachamim Etc, why do some say pifiyiot?  What about the piyutim by yose Ben yose, yanai, Eleazar hakalir and a dozen more.


How can you rush through this?  4000 years of Judaism is screaming to be noticed.

Trust me, shuckeling and screaming will have not the smallest connection than if you were to understand what you were saying.

Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: rs242 on October 01, 2017, 08:22:14 AM
If you read the tefillah fast in Hebrew, you are killing yourself! Why do we say X, who wrote y, what's the meaning iof mesod chachamim Etc, why do some say pifiyiot?  What about the piyutim by yose Ben yose, yanai, Eleazar hakalir and a dozen more.


How can you rush through this?  4000 years of Judaism is screaming to be noticed.

Trust me, shuckeling and screaming will have not the smallest connection than if you were to understand what you were saying.
Your my new rabbi! If u say no yeshiva, no yeshiva it is!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: a mirrer on October 01, 2017, 08:33:36 AM
netz in yerushalyim
5:50-8:30 shachris-musaf
5:20-7:05 mincha-neila
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mochjas on October 01, 2017, 08:47:01 AM
7:40-3:15
3:45-7:25

kol nidre 2611 X chai
neila 2500 X chai
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: rs242 on October 01, 2017, 09:01:58 AM
7:40-3:15
3:45-7:25

kol nidre 2611 X chai
neila 2500 X chai
$46,800?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 01, 2017, 09:04:06 AM
$46,800?
That's nuts. I hope the money goes to charity, not to the shul for landscaping
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Eliyohu on October 01, 2017, 09:16:04 AM


$46,998
$45,000

Ftfy
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: joe1234 on October 01, 2017, 09:29:39 AM
netz in yerushalyim
5:50-8:30 shachris-musaf
5:20-7:05 mincha-neila
This is when I say HOLY S**T  :o
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: sillypainter on October 01, 2017, 10:00:56 AM
8:00-8:00. I came at 9:15.

Break in between of 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chevron on October 01, 2017, 11:44:31 AM
Your my new rabbi! If u say no yeshiva, no yeshiva it is!

Look my beef with yeshivot is that they turn out robots. Kavana somehow equals getting all intense and screaming and shuckeling.

I mean yeah I daven loudly and at times and feel very spiritual and emotional but it's also about knowing what you're saying as rav jb soloveitchik wrote "one needs to ensure that his emotions are tempered, or it's like an overflowing river that destroys all"

Perhaps my teachers did not know better but the story of rav amram and unisane tokef is nice but he didn't write it, Cairo geniza documents show it's much older.

But piyut is powerful and you need to read a lot if not most in English, you need to know backgrounds,  we are missing out.

If you take the time to read the history of each tefillah like why the shliach tzibur says heyei am pifiyot or ochila lael achale laad ( tur orach Chaim 591)

Or where does viduy stem from?  Part is from Daniel's prayer etc.

But truly if you read the tefillot in English and know the background, you will be changed forever.

Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chevron on October 01, 2017, 11:51:52 AM
I think like because I don't just daven that we should incur zechut avot etc I connect with each and everyone of them as they prayed.. Its not just merely asking god to answer me as he answered Avraham, I try to place myself in Abraham's spot and pray to god as he did.

I try to picture the cohanim and the nation in the mikdash hearing the Shem meforash from the Cohen gadol and I'm filled with a sense of awe and prostate myself and loudly say Baruch Shem.

and this year, with all this culmination of intellectual, historical, philosophical preparation and prayers, when I said shema by Neila, I really felt this year that I was giving myself up Al kiddush hashem and it was terrifying but beautifully free.

Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mochjas on October 01, 2017, 11:52:14 AM
$46,800?
something like that
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: rs242 on October 01, 2017, 12:33:03 PM
something like that
Where is this?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 01, 2017, 12:44:26 PM
Look my beef with yeshivot is that they turn out robots. Kavana somehow equals getting all intense and screaming and shuckeling.

I mean yeah I daven loudly and at times and feel very spiritual and emotional but it's also about knowing what you're saying as rav jb soloveitchik wrote "one needs to ensure that his emotions are tempered, or it's like an overflowing river that destroys all"

Perhaps my teachers did not know better but the story of rav amram and unisane tokef is nice but he didn't write it, Cairo geniza documents show it's much older.

But piyut is powerful and you need to read a lot if not most in English, you need to know backgrounds,  we are missing out.

If you take the time to read the history of each tefillah like why the shliach tzibur says heyei am pifiyot or ochila lael achale laad ( tur orach Chaim 591)

Or where does viduy stem from?  Part is from Daniel's prayer etc.

But truly if you read the tefillot in English and know the background, you will be changed forever.
I'll take the ohr zarua over your cario geniza theory any day of the week..
What generation do you propose it was authored?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chevron on October 01, 2017, 01:32:46 PM
I'll take the ohr zarua over your cario geniza theory any day of the week..
What generation do you propose it was authored?

I'm quoting rabbi sacks...  He says cairo geniza documents show it to be as old as 6th century. I love how you term the geniza as kefira, next you'll call rav sz shechter an am haaretz?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: whYME on October 01, 2017, 01:38:13 PM
next you'll call rav sz shechter an am haaretz?
Assuming you're talking about who I think you're talking about, I wouldn't call him an am ha'aretz, but I wouldn't use the title "Rav" either.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chevron on October 01, 2017, 01:45:42 PM
Assuming you're talking about who I think you're talking about, I wouldn't call him an am ha'aretz, but I wouldn't use the title "Rav" either.

Well he did have semicha. Would you call rav shaul Lieberman "rav"?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: nobiggy on October 01, 2017, 02:14:14 PM
8:00-8:00. I came at 9:15.

Break in between of 30 minutes.
That's pretty intense.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: aygart on October 01, 2017, 04:50:03 PM


. I love how you term the geniza as kefira, ?

Where did he do that?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: aygart on October 01, 2017, 04:52:17 PM
I think like because I don't just daven that we should incur zechut avot etc I connect with each and everyone of them as they prayed.. Its not just merely asking god to answer me as he answered Avraham, I try to place myself in Abraham's spot and pray to god as he did.

I try to picture the cohanim and the nation in the mikdash hearing the Shem meforash from the Cohen gadol and I'm filled with a sense of awe and prostate myself and loudly say Baruch Shem.

and this year, with all this culmination of intellectual, historical, philosophical preparation and prayers, when I said shema by Neila, I really felt this year that I was giving myself up Al kiddush hashem and it was terrifying but beautifully free.
What works for you is great for you but won't work for everyone. To each his own.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: miles lover on October 01, 2017, 09:40:39 PM
I think like because I don't just daven that we should incur zechut avot etc I connect with each and everyone of them as they prayed.. Its not just merely asking god to answer me as he answered Avraham, I try to place myself in Abraham's spot and pray to god as he did.

I try to picture the cohanim and the nation in the mikdash hearing the Shem meforash from the Cohen gadol and I'm filled with a sense of awe and prostate myself and loudly say Baruch Shem.

and this year, with all this culmination of intellectual, historical, philosophical preparation and prayers, when I said shema by Neila, I really felt this year that I was giving myself up Al kiddush hashem and it was terrifying but beautifully free.
  Who told you that your supposed to picture yourself in abrahams spot ? We ask hasheam to grant our teffilos bezchus our fathers. Your not supposed to think that your like abraham! Who r u ??
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: aygart on October 01, 2017, 09:59:19 PM
  Who told you that your supposed to picture yourself in abrahams spot ? We ask hasheam to grant our teffilos bezchus our fathers. Your not supposed to think that your like abraham! Who r u ??
If that is what works for him to daven well let him do it
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: YOSEF on October 01, 2017, 10:17:31 PM
7a-7:38p with an 11 minute break.
7a-7:43p(approx), with a 17 minute break.

(see linked post for different years)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: good sam on October 01, 2017, 10:20:41 PM


8:00-8:00. I came at 9:15.
I appreciate your honesty.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chaimmayer on October 01, 2017, 10:31:02 PM
I appreciate your honesty.
Sounds like he didn't miss much
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: harrym on October 02, 2017, 12:26:45 AM
I'll take the ohr zarua over your cario geniza theory any day of the week..
What generation do you propose it was authored?

http://blog.nli.org.il/unetanneh_tokef/?utm_source=activetrail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_18sep2017

See here possible answer.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 02, 2017, 07:19:30 AM
http://blog.nli.org.il/unetanneh_tokef/?utm_source=activetrail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_18sep2017

See here possible answer.
Agree, it doesn't say that he authored it, just that he taught it to ashkenaz
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: tzifanya54 on October 02, 2017, 07:31:33 AM
7:10-8:10
8 min break
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yehuda57 on October 02, 2017, 07:22:32 PM
We started at 4am. We still haven't finished yet. I'll keep you all posted.

My kittel is also soaked from all my crying. Not to boast or anything, but the guy's next to me is still white. Mine is completely transparent by now.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MeirS on October 02, 2017, 08:20:08 PM
We started at 4am. We still haven't finished yet. I'll keep you all posted.

My kittel is also soaked from all my crying. Not to boast or anything, but the guy's next to me is still white. Mine is completely transparent by now.
Amshinov?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: koplonko on October 03, 2017, 12:37:02 AM
Amshinov?
Amshinov doesn't start anything at 4:00 am
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: jj1000 on October 03, 2017, 12:39:27 AM
Amshinov doesn't start anything at 4:00 am
He's talking about kol nidrei.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: a mirrer on October 03, 2017, 05:32:55 AM
He's talking about kol nidrei.
maybe 4 am motzei Yom Kippur for kol nidrei
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yehuda57 on October 03, 2017, 12:55:18 PM
I know the guy next to you. He didnt want to boast either, but he told me that he mamish has no chato'im.

אוי לרשע ואוי לשכנו
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on September 19, 2018, 09:37:55 PM
How long did it take in your shul?

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:15
Mincha-Neilah: 6:00-8:15

I bought psicha for kol nidrei for 4x chai and levi by mincha for 7x chai.
Maftir Yonah went for $770 and Psicha for Neilah went for 110x chai.

2011:

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-2:45
Mincha-Neilah: 5:15-7:40

Maftir Yona: $770
Neilah: 70 x $18

Chabad of Beachwood, OH
9:30a-3:00p
5:30-8:00p

Maftir Yonah was sold privately.
Neilah went for $3,600

I got Levi at Mincha though for just $90 :)

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-8:20

Psicha for kol nidrei 32x chai
Maftir Yonah $1,100
Psicha for Neilah 300x chai.

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-7:45

Psicha for kol nidrei 12x chai
Maftir Yonah 25x chai
Psicha for Neilah 450x chai.

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:30-8:05

Psicha for kol nidrei 27x chai
Maftir Yonah 15x chai
Psicha for Neilah 370x chai.



Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:15-7:30

Psicha for kol nidrei 20x chai
Maftir Yonah 36x chai
Psicha for Neilah 400x chai.

Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-2:50
Mincha-Neilah: 5:15-7:50

Psicha for kol nidrei 21x chai
Maftir Yonah 30x chai
Psicha for Neilah 250x chai
Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:40-8:15

Psicha for kol nidrei 20x chai
Maftir Yonah $1,500
Psicha for Neilah 120x chai
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: davidrotts63 on September 19, 2018, 09:40:38 PM
Shachris 7:30-2:05, mincha 4:55-6:10, neilah 6:30-7:58
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yaalili on September 19, 2018, 09:51:15 PM
770 in the Sukkah:
Shacharis-Musaf: 11:00-1:30
Mincha-Neilah: 6:00-7:20

770 Tent Minyan:
Shacharis-Musaf: 11:10-1:45
Mincha-Neilah: 6:30-7:40

Psicha for Neilah $700.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Definitions on September 19, 2018, 09:55:48 PM
Shachris and musaf 8:00 - 3:15
2 hour break then mincha...
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 19, 2018, 10:00:15 PM
770 Tent Minyan:
Shacharis-Musaf: 11:10-1:45
Mincha-Neilah: 6:30-7:40

Psicha for Neilah $700.
Was there breakfast before shachris?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mmgfarb on September 19, 2018, 10:04:11 PM
770 Tent Minyan:
Shacharis-Musaf: 11:10-1:45
Mincha-Neilah: 6:30-7:40

Psicha for Neilah $700.
Am I the only one who doesn't understand this?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ExGingi on September 19, 2018, 10:09:01 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't understand this?
Once you know who leads it, you understand everything.

ETA:
Only thing I can't understand is how bidding stops at $700 and doesn't go to $770
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: koplonko on September 19, 2018, 10:09:36 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't understand this?
There's a very holy jew that doesn't want to allow his yetzer hara to disturn his Kavana during davening, and doesn't want to allow the Satan to be mekatreg, so he runs through davening like he's reading aseres bnei haman
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on September 19, 2018, 10:13:20 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't understand this?
No.  :)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mmgfarb on September 19, 2018, 10:16:37 PM
There's a very holy jew that doesn't want to allow his yetzer hara to disturn his Kavana during davening, and doesn't want to allow the Satan to be mekatreg, so he runs through davening like he's reading aseres bnei haman
What does he do the rest of the day?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 19, 2018, 10:17:39 PM


There's a very holy jew
Name and affiliation?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ExGingi on September 19, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
What does he do the rest of the day?
Maybe goes through Tehillim 10-15 times, or possibly 10 Blatt Gemorah.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mmgfarb on September 19, 2018, 10:21:36 PM
Maybe goes through Tehillim 10-15 times, or possibly 10 Blatt Gemorah.
So you have no clue? I don't understand what you could possibly be doing on Y"K that is more important than davening. You're saying that the yetzer hara doesn't get to him while saying tehillim?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: jackofall on September 19, 2018, 10:27:46 PM
doesn't want to allow the Satan to be mekatreg,
See Gemorah Yoma 20a cant be mekatreg on YK at all.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: koplonko on September 19, 2018, 10:29:05 PM
See Gemorah Yoma 20a cant be mekatreg on YK at all.
I'm saying what he does bichlal
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ExGingi on September 19, 2018, 10:34:13 PM
So you have no clue? I don't understand what you could possibly be doing on Y"K that is more important than davening. You're saying that the yetzer hara doesn't get to him while saying tehillim?
I have no idea regarding the Yetzer Hara or the Satan. I just gave some very real possibilities of what he might be doing the rest of the time.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mmgfarb on September 19, 2018, 10:35:31 PM
I have no idea regarding the Yetzer Hara or the Satan. I just gave some very real possibilities of what he might be doing the rest of the time.
This whole thing makes no sense to me at all, if you're so holy, why not daven the whole day and take control of your yetzer hara so he can't influence you at all on Y"K?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: coralsnake on September 19, 2018, 10:37:37 PM
Local Chabad minyan

Shachris/mussaf- 9:30-3:10
Mincha-neilah- 5:20-7:45

Maftir yonah- $3300
Psicha neilah- $1300
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: keemster26 on September 19, 2018, 10:52:58 PM
Local sfardi Minyan: shacharis/mussaf-7-255
Mincha/maariv : 340-810
Yonah-$500
Neilah:5k
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: doodle on September 19, 2018, 11:15:36 PM
This whole thing makes no sense to me at all, if you're so holy, why not daven the whole day and take control of your yetzer hara so he can't influence you at all on Y"K?
Emes !
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Zevi16 on September 20, 2018, 12:08:06 AM
Chabad of Beachwood, OH:
Shacharis-Musaf: 9:30-3:00
Mincha-Neilah: 5:40-8:15

Psicha for kol nidrei 20x chai
Maftir Yonah $1,500
Psicha for Neilah 120x chai
Seems to be people are paying less than previous years. Besides for this years Maftir Yona
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: thaber on September 20, 2018, 02:29:06 AM
730-320 shachris mussaf
425-807 mincha neila
Nothing sold overtly
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: nafnaf12 on September 20, 2018, 03:53:53 AM
7:45-10 Shachris 1 hour break +5x bris
Mussaf 11-1:42pm
Mincha 5-5:55pm
Neila 6:10-7:17pm
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: keepsmiling123 on September 20, 2018, 06:04:07 AM
Landers

Shachris+Musaf: 8am-2:30PM
Mincha+Neila : 4:15pm-7:50PM

Maftir Yona: $1350
Pesicha Neila: $10,000
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: skyguy918 on September 20, 2018, 08:04:50 AM
7:45-10 Shachris 1 hour break +5x bris
Mussaf 11-1:42pm
Mincha 5-5:55pm
Neila 6:10-7:17pm
Does that mean 5 brisin? In one shul?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: nafnaf12 on September 20, 2018, 08:06:18 AM
Does that mean 5 brisin? In one shul?
yup
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Moshe123 on September 20, 2018, 08:13:57 AM
Shachris 8:00-12:35
Musaf Mincha 1:45-6:00
Neila 6:50-8:10
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: skyguy918 on September 20, 2018, 08:34:57 AM
yup
Wow. That's pretty crazy. Don't remember the mareh makom, but it's supposed to be a big zechus for the kehilla. I had a Yom Kippur bris and a cousin did too on the same day (same model, he walked halfeay across Brooklyn to be able to do both, while fasting). I've been by one other in my life.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 20, 2018, 09:47:36 AM
yup
Wow
Statistically, what were the odds ;)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mochjas on September 20, 2018, 09:54:17 AM
Shachrit-Musaf 8:00-3:10
Mincha-Neila-Arbit 4:00-7:45
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yonah on September 20, 2018, 09:55:12 AM
Every year, I ask hashem to grant me the same energy for neila that I have at call nidrei. IMHO the only time that matters is that we finish on time so that those who are having a hard time fasting are able to eat.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mochjas on September 20, 2018, 10:00:19 AM
Every year, I ask hashem to grant me the same energy for neila that I have at call nidrei. IMHO the only time that matters is that we finish on time so that those who are having a hard time fasting are able to eat.
I actually have more energy at Neila as I am so full by Kol Nidrei it makes me tired
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ExGingi on September 20, 2018, 10:04:27 AM
Every year, I ask hashem to grant me the same energy for neila that I have at call nidrei. IMHO the only time that matters is that we finish on time so that those who are having a hard time fasting are able to eat.

With a name like yours, no wonder you need extra strength during Neila, after what you've just been through during Mincha.  ;D
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: nafnaf12 on September 20, 2018, 10:08:32 AM
Wow
Statistically, what were the odds ;)
out of 15k. You do the math. Lol
Last week there were 10 brisin done in 50 min
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: nafnaf12 on September 20, 2018, 10:09:07 AM
With a name like yours, no wonder you need extra strength during Neila, after what you've just been through during Mincha.  ;D
I know it's still early but I nominate this as best post of the year.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: 12HRS on September 20, 2018, 10:10:55 AM
Wow
Statistically, what were the odds ;)

How many of those 5 gave birth because they were fasting on Tzom Gedalia  :P
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ExGingi on September 20, 2018, 10:23:31 AM
How many of those 5 gave birth because they were fasting on Tzom Gedalia  :P

Hopefully none. I wonder if there's any Halachic authority that would say that a pregnant woman should be fasting on Tzom Gedalia.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: 12HRS on September 20, 2018, 10:30:14 AM
Hopefully none. I wonder if there's any Halachic authority that would say that a pregnant woman should be fasting on Tzom Gedalia.

Agreed, but still timing makes me wonder.

My dad actually told someone to eat on YK and he was refusing saying all his friends told him he has to fast. My dad forwarded on the medical information to a bigger posek and was told its not a Shaila at all and he needs to be eating.

Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: JACKBLUE on September 20, 2018, 10:31:51 AM
Agreed, but still timing makes me wonder.

My dad actually told someone to eat on YK and he was refusing saying all his friends told him he has to fast. My dad forwarded on the medical information to a bigger posek and was told its not a Shaila at all and he needs to be eating.
Nice to have a son a posek here on board!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ExGingi on September 20, 2018, 10:35:26 AM
Agreed, but still timing makes me wonder.

My dad actually told someone to eat on YK and he was refusing saying all his friends told him he has to fast. My dad forwarded on the medical information to a bigger posek and was told its not a Shaila at all and he needs to be eating.

YK and Tzom Gedalia are probably the greatest extremes (in opposite directions) when determining whether one should fast.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Definitions on September 20, 2018, 11:10:42 AM
I actually have more energy at Neila as I am so full by Kol Nidrei it makes me tired
I also find that most years I got a second wind of energy at neila time. As a matter of fact, usually I'm not even so hungry at the end of the fast. It's in middle when I'm hungry and weak.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: avromie7 on September 20, 2018, 11:35:26 AM
Hopefully none. I wonder if there's any Halachic authority that would say that a pregnant woman should be fasting on Tzom Gedalia.
Why shouldn't a woman deep into her 9th month who is able to, not fast on tzom gedalya?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ExGingi on September 20, 2018, 11:37:26 AM
Why shouldn't a woman deep into her 9th month who is able to, not fast on tzom gedalya?

Ask any MD if fasting is recommended in the 9th month.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: avromie7 on September 20, 2018, 11:42:07 AM
Ask any MD if fasting is recommended in the 9th month.
Most OB/GYN have no issue with fasting Yom Kippur, why would Tzom Gedalya be different? Especially in the 9th month.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on September 20, 2018, 11:43:03 AM
Ask any MD if fasting is recommended in the 9th month.
You need to ask a MD if fasting in the 9th month is advisable?  :)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mmgfarb on September 20, 2018, 11:47:00 AM
Most OB/GYN have no issue with fasting Yom Kippur, why would Tzom Gedalya be different? Especially in the 9th month.
Having no issue with fasting on Y"K does not equal recommending a woman to fast on the most kal fast of the year.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ExGingi on September 20, 2018, 11:47:17 AM
Most OB/GYN have no issue with fasting Yom Kippur, why would Tzom Gedalya be different? Especially in the 9th month.

YK and Tzom Gedalia are probably the greatest extremes (in opposite directions) when determining whether one should fast.

IINM the question is a totally different question. On Tzom Gedaliah if it's not recommended, a woman shouldn't fast. On YK it's mitzvas hayom מדאורייתא.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Dan on September 20, 2018, 11:50:02 AM
Most OB/GYN have no issue with fasting Yom Kippur, why would Tzom Gedalya be different? Especially in the 9th month.
Mimi was told not to fast for T"G in 2013 but she fasted on Y"K and went into labor less than 24 hours later.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: yitzgar on September 20, 2018, 11:53:30 AM
My understanding is that when it comes to the 4 fasts, they were not instituted for the sick or pregnant. Cmiiw.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: shaulyaakov on September 20, 2018, 01:13:19 PM
Most OBs do not recommend a fast-induced labor. I think the biggest Shayla is 9 Av (except when Nidche). I've heard so many different Psakim.

I've never heard of a Chiyuv for a pregannt woman to fast on a minor fast in the 2nd or 3rd trimester, and virtually all Poskim would say a pregnant woman should start Y"K and switch to Shiurim if feeling weak.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: yesitsme on September 20, 2018, 05:50:27 PM
Hopefully none. I wonder if there's any Halachic authority that would say that a husband of pregnant woman should be fasting on Tzom Gedalia.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: thaber on September 23, 2018, 03:28:39 AM
I sincerely hope no one is taking practical halachic advice from this thread
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yammer on September 23, 2018, 03:59:06 AM
Most OB/GYN have no issue with fasting Yom Kippur, why would Tzom Gedalya be different? Especially in the 9th month.
In many places 2omen don't fast at all except for YK and TB.
You need to ask a MD if fasting in the 9th month is advisable?  :)
Sure
Mimi was told not to fast for T"G in 2013 but she fasted on Y"K and went into labor less than 24 hours later.
Doc said that- perfect.
Most OBs do not recommend a fast-induced labor. I think the biggest Shayla is 9 Av (except when Nidche). I've heard so many different Psakim.

I've never heard of a Chiyuv for a pregannt woman to fast on a minor fast in the 2nd or 3rd trimester, and virtually all Poskim would say a pregnant woman should start Y"K and switch to Shiurim if feeling weak.
Doc claimed that a fast doesn't induce and it would take severe dehydration to do that, not a 24 hour fast
I sincerely hope no one is taking practical halachic advice from this thread
+1
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yehuda57 on September 23, 2018, 08:59:48 AM
I sincerely hope no one is taking practical halachic advice from this thread
No way! One should only get halachic advice from whatsapp.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yammer on September 23, 2018, 10:51:21 AM
No way! One should only get halachic advice from whatsapp.
So DDF vs WhatsApp you say WhatsApp? 
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mmgfarb on September 23, 2018, 11:17:59 AM
So DDF vs WhatsApp you say WhatsApp? 
DDF is just a weird version of whatsapp these days.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MeirS on September 23, 2018, 12:10:16 PM
At the Rebbe's Room in 770
Ma'ariv ended 9:20
Tehillim ended 10:30
Shachris-Musaf - 10:00-3:30 (I think that's a record)
Mincha-Ne'ila - 5:15-7:45
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MeirS on September 23, 2018, 12:11:55 PM
At the Rebbe's Room in 770
Ma'ariv ended 9:20
Tehillim ended 10:30
Shachris-Musaf - 10:00-3:30 (I think that's a record)
Mincha-Ne'ila - 5:15-7:45
Oops, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned the Tehillim part. Is it bordering on Kefira to say the whole Tehillim on the night of YK? Is there widespread criticism of the practice which I'm not aware of?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: koplonko on September 23, 2018, 01:51:21 PM
Oops, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned the Tehillim part. Is it bordering on Kefira to say the whole Tehillim on the night of YK? Is there widespread criticism of the practice which I'm not aware of?
Is Yom kippur mechaper the saying of tehilim on Yom kippur?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: davidrotts63 on September 23, 2018, 01:58:09 PM
What is the reasoning for the tehillim?
(Or where is a post where someone explained it?)
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ExGingi on September 23, 2018, 02:13:52 PM
What is the reasoning for the tehillim?
(Or where is a post where someone explained it?)

It's a well established minhag to say as much tehilliim as possible on Rosh Hashono and Yom Kippur.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: davidrotts63 on September 23, 2018, 02:28:34 PM
It's a well established minhag to say as much tehilliim as possible on Rosh Hashono and Yom Kippur.
It's a choik?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mmgfarb on September 23, 2018, 02:31:31 PM
It's a well established minhag to say as much tehilliim as possible on Rosh Hashono and Yom Kippur.
Source?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ExGingi on September 23, 2018, 03:44:36 PM
Source?

Huh?

It has been well established on DDF that when something is said to be well established, no further source is required!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: mmgfarb on September 23, 2018, 03:47:38 PM
Huh?

It has been well established on DDF that when something is said to be well established, no further source is required!
Source?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: miles lover on September 23, 2018, 03:52:43 PM
YK and Tzom Gedalia are probably the greatest extremes (in opposite directions) when determining whether one should fast.
-1
Tannis ester is.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ben89 on September 23, 2018, 03:55:23 PM
What is the reasoning for the tehillim?
(Or where is a post where someone explained it?)
brisker rav used to say tehillim on Yom Kippur during his free time
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: davidrotts63 on September 23, 2018, 03:56:26 PM
brisker rav used to say tehillim on Yom Kippur during his free time
But did he make free time to say tehillim?
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ExGingi on September 23, 2018, 03:56:47 PM
brisker rav used to say tehillim on Yom Kippur during his free time

OMG. I guess he was too friendly with Lubavitch.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ExGingi on September 23, 2018, 03:57:10 PM
Source?

Just ask CBC, he'll give you all the sources needed.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on September 23, 2018, 06:01:35 PM
I really opened a can of worms.. imagine if I had actually went all out and posted all the qoutes and sources on both sides...

This place woulda burnt down!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yehuda57 on September 25, 2018, 11:31:46 PM
Sukkos 5779, Chabad in Yehupitz.
Began the brachos at 7:39, completed naanuim by 7:41. Coffee at 7:44.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: ExGingi on September 25, 2018, 11:44:02 PM
Sukkos 5779, Chabad in Yehupitz.
Began the brachos at 7:39, completed naanuim by 7:41. Coffee at 7:44.
Missing the simchas beis hashoeva end time.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: Yonah on October 03, 2018, 02:57:26 PM
With a name like yours, no wonder you need extra strength during Neila, after what you've just been through during Mincha.  ;D

Touche.
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: chevron on October 03, 2018, 10:20:40 PM
I hate fasting.. even something minor like tzom gedalia. but I confess that Yom Kippur is my favorite holiday. I love the swell of emotion, uplifting prayers, supplications and beseeching. No concert number can begin to pale in comparison to the prayers and activities of Yom Kippur.

Where do I start ? For one, the machzor packs in so much you barely have a minute to absorb anything. It's all raw emotion.

Some of the prayers are the most passionate pleading of any written work of history.  One example if the chazan's shacharit repetition.

This day it is written    הַיּוֹם יִכָּתֵב

בְּסֵֽפֶר הַזִּכְרוֹנוֹת.

in the Book of Remembrance,

הַחַיִּים וְהַמָּֽוֶת.

[who is for] life and [who for] death.

אָֽנָא כַּנָּה. עֽוּרִי נָא.

Please, [Yisrael, who is God's] vineyard, awake!

הִתְעוֹרְרִי נָא. עִמְדִי נָא.

Rouse yourselves and stand [in prayer]

הִתְיַצְּבִי נָא. קֽוּמִי נָא. חַלִּי נָא.

strengthen yourselves, rise up, plead,

בְּעַד הַנֶּֽפֶשׁ חֲנִי נָא.

for the sake of [your] soul, plead,

פְּנֵי דַר עֶלְיוֹן:

plead to Him Who dwells on high.

We humans are fickle. We fear silly things and shrug off real danger's. Sometimes we may have to remind ourselves to pay a bill or we will be evicted, or really do not do that to your boss or you will be fired and yes 9000 feet elevation is scary so please be careful!

And behold it's the 10th day of tishrey. We know this because the calendar says so, because everyone is in the synagogue..

This is the day!! Wake me up God!! Wake yourself up!

Make no mistake, the prayers are well orchestrated! They built up to the greatest climax never matched in any cinema setting.

The Torah reading describes Yom Kippur. Then comes the avoda. The avoda was intended to place us in the beit hamikdash. To connect us to the services.  Lifney hashem titaharu! In potraits of incredible heights we are given a front seat view to the kohen gadol and the nation.

How can one not be overwhelmed and swept up by this ?!? How can one not feel themselves in the mikdash as the high priest proclaimed the mighty and beloved name of the holy one blessed be he.. and the whole nation including you kneels and bows !!

For me, the prayer of the high priest is most prounonced.. financial indepence, no miscarriage, the house of David should not pass.

And so I pray . Shnas Ora, shnas bracha etc..

But what if every day was yom Kippur.. what if every day I could muster such incredible emotions, such highs! Such fear and joy.. such belief and sober reality that today matters!! That today would affect my destiny and that of the nation of Israel

If only I would awake each day with awe and Joy. Ready to wage battle, to change, to improve, to be better..

But I don't, I wake each morning to the drone of life.. knowing that today is a stepping stone to tomorrow.. and today will fade like yesterday.. as life fades away.

I try to pray with emotion but it escapes me.. there's no "Ana slach na, mechol na, kaper na.. "

But maybe that's what life is about.. fireworks last a few minutes or hours and life resumes.

At the end of neilah we say shema yisrael. One is supposed to say it as if he's ready right now to give his life Al kiddush hashem. So over the years I thought in the sense that if someone is going to kill me right now ,I'm ready to die al Kiddush hashem.  It doesn't really work because bh we have great security in the shull.. who is going to kill me ?!? Besides I lived in gush katif, Chevron and Jerusalem, I'm not scared to die al Kiddush hashem. I thought of what Rabbi soloveitchik said regarding the akeida, God doesn't want human sacrifices - he wants humans to sacrifice themselves. So, if the holy one blessed be he came to me during neilah and said "sacrifice your life Al kiddush hashem! Dedicate the rest of your life to doing my work!" Will I say yes! Or will I ask God how much it pays?!?

Well, that's a lot to think about!

I didn't keep track of times, but it was a good yk!
Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 04, 2018, 08:56:52 PM
I hate fasting.. even something minor like tzom gedalia. but I confess that Yom Kippur is my favorite holiday. I love the swell of emotion, uplifting prayers, supplications and beseeching. No concert number can begin to pale in comparison to the prayers and activities of Yom Kippur.

Where do I start ? For one, the machzor packs in so much you barely have a minute to absorb anything. It's all raw emotion.

Some of the prayers are the most passionate pleading of any written work of history.  One example if the chazan's shacharit repetition.

This day it is written    הַיּוֹם יִכָּתֵב

בְּסֵֽפֶר הַזִּכְרוֹנוֹת.

in the Book of Remembrance,

הַחַיִּים וְהַמָּֽוֶת.

[who is for] life and [who for] death.

אָֽנָא כַּנָּה. עֽוּרִי נָא.

Please, [Yisrael, who is God's] vineyard, awake!

הִתְעוֹרְרִי נָא. עִמְדִי נָא.

Rouse yourselves and stand [in prayer]

הִתְיַצְּבִי נָא. קֽוּמִי נָא. חַלִּי נָא.

strengthen yourselves, rise up, plead,

בְּעַד הַנֶּֽפֶשׁ חֲנִי נָא.

for the sake of [your] soul, plead,

פְּנֵי דַר עֶלְיוֹן:

plead to Him Who dwells on high.

We humans are fickle. We fear silly things and shrug off real danger's. Sometimes we may have to remind ourselves to pay a bill or we will be evicted, or really do not do that to your boss or you will be fired and yes 9000 feet elevation is scary so please be careful!

And behold it's the 10th day of tishrey. We know this because the calendar says so, because everyone is in the synagogue..

This is the day!! Wake me up God!! Wake yourself up!

Make no mistake, the prayers are well orchestrated! They built up to the greatest climax never matched in any cinema setting.

The Torah reading describes Yom Kippur. Then comes the avoda. The avoda was intended to place us in the beit hamikdash. To connect us to the services.  Lifney hashem titaharu! In potraits of incredible heights we are given a front seat view to the kohen gadol and the nation.

How can one not be overwhelmed and swept up by this ?!? How can one not feel themselves in the mikdash as the high priest proclaimed the mighty and beloved name of the holy one blessed be he.. and the whole nation including you kneels and bows !!

For me, the prayer of the high priest is most prounonced.. financial indepence, no miscarriage, the house of David should not pass.

And so I pray . Shnas Ora, shnas bracha etc..

But what if every day was yom Kippur.. what if every day I could muster such incredible emotions, such highs! Such fear and joy.. such belief and sober reality that today matters!! That today would affect my destiny and that of the nation of Israel

If only I would awake each day with awe and Joy. Ready to wage battle, to change, to improve, to be better..

But I don't, I wake each morning to the drone of life.. knowing that today is a stepping stone to tomorrow.. and today will fade like yesterday.. as life fades away.

I try to pray with emotion but it escapes me.. there's no "Ana slach na, mechol na, kaper na.. "

But maybe that's what life is about.. fireworks last a few minutes or hours and life resumes.

At the end of neilah we say shema yisrael. One is supposed to say it as if he's ready right now to give his life Al kiddush hashem. So over the years I thought in the sense that if someone is going to kill me right now ,I'm ready to die al Kiddush hashem.  It doesn't really work because bh we have great security in the shull.. who is going to kill me ?!? Besides I lived in gush katif, Chevron and Jerusalem, I'm not scared to die al Kiddush hashem. I thought of what Rabbi soloveitchik said regarding the akeida, God doesn't want human sacrifices - he wants humans to sacrifice themselves. So, if the holy one blessed be he came to me during neilah and said "sacrifice your life Al kiddush hashem! Dedicate the rest of your life to doing my work!" Will I say yes! Or will I ask God how much it pays?!?

Well, that's a lot to think about!

I didn't keep track of times, but it was a good yk!
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Title: Re: Yom Kippur Davening
Post by: MeirS on October 04, 2018, 08:58:09 PM
I hate fasting.. even something minor like tzom gedalia. but I confess that Yom Kippur is my favorite holiday. I love the swell of emotion, uplifting prayers, supplications and beseeching. No concert number can begin to pale in comparison to the prayers and activities of Yom Kippur.

Where do I start ? For one, the machzor packs in so much you barely have a minute to absorb anything. It's all raw emotion.

Some of the prayers are the most passionate pleading of any written work of history.  One example if the chazan's shacharit repetition.

This day it is written    הַיּוֹם יִכָּתֵב

בְּסֵֽפֶר הַזִּכְרוֹנוֹת.

in the Book of Remembrance,

הַחַיִּים וְהַמָּֽוֶת.

[who is for] life and [who for] death.

אָֽנָא כַּנָּה. עֽוּרִי נָא.

Please, [Yisrael, who is God's] vineyard, awake!

הִתְעוֹרְרִי נָא. עִמְדִי נָא.

Rouse yourselves and stand [in prayer]

הִתְיַצְּבִי נָא. קֽוּמִי נָא. חַלִּי נָא.

strengthen yourselves, rise up, plead,

בְּעַד הַנֶּֽפֶשׁ חֲנִי נָא.

for the sake of [your] soul, plead,

פְּנֵי דַר עֶלְיוֹן:

plead to Him Who dwells on high.

We humans are fickle. We fear silly things and shrug off real danger's. Sometimes we may have to remind ourselves to pay a bill or we will be evicted, or really do not do that to your boss or you will be fired and yes 9000 feet elevation is scary so please be careful!

And behold it's the 10th day of tishrey. We know this because the calendar says so, because everyone is in the synagogue..

This is the day!! Wake me up God!! Wake yourself up!

Make no mistake, the prayers are well orchestrated! They built up to the greatest climax never matched in any cinema setting.

The Torah reading describes Yom Kippur. Then comes the avoda. The avoda was intended to place us in the beit hamikdash. To connect us to the services.  Lifney hashem titaharu! In potraits of incredible heights we are given a front seat view to the kohen gadol and the nation.

How can one not be overwhelmed and swept up by this ?!? How can one not feel themselves in the mikdash as the high priest proclaimed the mighty and beloved name of the holy one blessed be he.. and the whole nation including you kneels and bows !!

For me, the prayer of the high priest is most prounonced.. financial indepence, no miscarriage, the house of David should not pass.

And so I pray . Shnas Ora, shnas bracha etc..

But what if every day was yom Kippur.. what if every day I could muster such incredible emotions, such highs! Such fear and joy.. such belief and sober reality that today matters!! That today would affect my destiny and that of the nation of Israel

If only I would awake each day with awe and Joy. Ready to wage battle, to change, to improve, to be better..

But I don't, I wake each morning to the drone of life.. knowing that today is a stepping stone to tomorrow.. and today will fade like yesterday.. as life fades away.

I try to pray with emotion but it escapes me.. there's no "Ana slach na, mechol na, kaper na.. "

But maybe that's what life is about.. fireworks last a few minutes or hours and life resumes.

At the end of neilah we say shema yisrael. One is supposed to say it as if he's ready right now to give his life Al kiddush hashem. So over the years I thought in the sense that if someone is going to kill me right now ,I'm ready to die al Kiddush hashem.  It doesn't really work because bh we have great security in the shull.. who is going to kill me ?!? Besides I lived in gush katif, Chevron and Jerusalem, I'm not scared to die al Kiddush hashem. I thought of what Rabbi soloveitchik said regarding the akeida, God doesn't want human sacrifices - he wants humans to sacrifice themselves. So, if the holy one blessed be he came to me during neilah and said "sacrifice your life Al kiddush hashem! Dedicate the rest of your life to doing my work!" Will I say yes! Or will I ask God how much it pays?!?

Well, that's a lot to think about!

I didn't keep track of times, but it was a good yk!
Very powerful!