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Title: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on October 10, 2010, 12:10:03 PM
An updated post (now with an executive summary) can be found here: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/15417
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This is one of the most common questions out there, maybe this will settle it once and for all?

With so many Starpoint transfer options I'm sure I've missed a few good options, please post a comment if you see a good one or if Ive made any mistakes!
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Star Alliance:
Using ANA miles
-If there is availability on Continental or USAirways for your dates: Transfer enough points to ANA to have 60,000 miles per ticket for coach or 90,000 miles per ticket for business.  If you redeem ANA miles to go to Israel on airlines besides for Continental or USAirways you will be hit with fuel surcharges. 
20,000 Starpoints=25,000 ANA miles. Effectively 48,000 Starpoints in coach or 72,000 Starpoints in business.

Using USAirways miles
-If there is Star Alliance availability besides for Continental and USAirways, transfer enough points to USAirways to have 80,000 miles per ticket for coach or 120,000 miles per ticket for business.  USAirways never charges fuel surcharges, although they do have a modest $50 award ticketing fee offset by the fact that they waive the phone booking fee for Star Alliance tickets. 
20,000 Starpoints=25,000 USAirways miles. Effectively 64,000 Starpoints in coach or 96,000 Starpoints in business.
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OneWorld:
Using AA miles
-If there is OneWorld or El Al availability, transfer enough points to AA to have 80,000 miles per ticket (for coach via Europe during off-peak travel times) or 90,000 miles per ticket (for coach nonstop on El Al or via Europe during peak travel times) or 135,000 miles per ticket for business nonstop on El Al or via Europe).  There are fuel surcharges if you want to travel on BA, but not for travel on partner airlines.
20,000 Starpoints=25,000 AA miles. Effectively 64,000 or 72,000 Starpoints in coach or 108,000 Starpoints in business.

Using BA miles
-If there is OneWorld availability for your dates: Transfer enough points to BA to have 65,000 miles per ticket for coach or 130,000 miles per ticket for business.  If you redeem BA miles to go to Israel on BA you will be hit with fuel surcharges, but you won't pay a fuel surcharge for travel on partner airlines.
20,000 Starpoints=25,000 BA miles. Effectively 52,000 Starpoints in coach or 104,000 Starpoints in business.

Using JAL miles
-If there is BA availability, transfer enough points to JAL to have 40,000 miles per ticket (for coach between 10/15-05/15) or 60,000 miles per ticket (for coach between 05/16-10/14) or 80,000 miles per ticket for business).  Fuel surcharges do apply.
-If there is OneWorld availability, transfer enough points to JAL to have 60,000 miles per ticket for coach or 90,000 miles per ticket for business.  Fuel surcharges do apply.
20,000 Starpoints=25,000 JAL miles. Effectively 32,000 Starpoints for off-peak coach on BA, 48,000 Starpoints for other coach travel, 64,000 Starpoints for business on BA, or 72,000 Starpoints in business on other partner airlines.

Using LAN kilometers
-If there is availability on Royal Jordanian, transfer enough points to LAN to have 112,000 kilometers per ticket for coach or 224,000 kilometers per ticket for business.  LAN does not charge any fuel surcharges
20,000 Starpoints=50,000 LAN kilometers. Effectively 44,800 Starpoints in coach or 89,600 Starpoints in business.
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Skyteam:
Using Alitalia miles
-If there is Skyteam availability transfer enough points to Alitalia to have 50,000 miles per ticket to Alitalia for coach or 80,000 miles per ticket for business, plus expect to pay fuel surcharges.
20,000 Starpoints=25,000 Alitalia miles. Effectively 40,000 Starpoints in coach or 64,600 Starpoints in business.

Using Flying Blue miles
-If there is a promo award available on Flying Blue for your dates and you're ready to work hard to get them to honor it and cut through red tape: Transfer enough points to Flying blue to have 25,000 miles per ticket for coach or 50,000 miles per ticket for business, plus expect to pay fuel surcharges.
20,000 Starpoints=25,000 Flying Blue miles. Effectively 20,000 Starpoints in coach or 40,000 Starpoints in business.

Using Delta miles
-You can also transfer to Delta Skypesos to avoid fuel surcharges for travel originating in the US (Delta charges fuel surcharges for travel originating outside of the US), but their mileage rates are variable.  Coach can be between 80,000 and 190,000 and business can be between 120,000 and 370,000.
20,000 Starpoints=25,000 Delta Skypesos. Effectively 64,000-152,000 Starpoints in coach or 96,000-296,000 Starpoints in business.
Title: Re: Methods To Get To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Mikeoracle on October 10, 2010, 01:34:44 PM
Great Summary!
I think this should definitely be a sticky (along with the MR summary)
Title: Re: Methods To Get To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: E on October 14, 2010, 06:33:31 PM
thanks !! I think this could even qualify for a link on top of the main site.
Title: Re: Methods To Get To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on October 14, 2010, 06:41:12 PM
thanks !! I think this could even qualify for a link on top of the main site.
I'll put it on the main site.  I just wanted to see if perhaps I missed any other good methods that people know of?
Title: Re: Methods To Get To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: E on October 14, 2010, 06:41:56 PM
I'll put it on the main site.  I just wanted to see if perhaps I missed any other good methods that people know of?
maybe add approx fuel surcharges.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on October 14, 2010, 10:47:37 PM
maybe add approx fuel surcharges.
That would be a massive task.  If anyone wnats to undertake it I'm sure the oilam would be quite grateful.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on October 14, 2010, 10:48:04 PM
I've added BA and an excellent JAL option that I had forgotten about.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: aussiebochur on October 15, 2010, 06:26:51 AM
I've added BA and an excellent JAL option that I had forgotten about.
When redeeming JAL for RJ, Zone 6, 8,001-12,000 is 55,000/80,000 for Y/C.
Considering that JFK-AMM-TLV-AMM-JFK is 11,612 miles (http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=Jfk-amm-tlv-amm-jfk&MS=wls&DU=mi), wouldn't this be a better redemption then the other OW partners?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2010, 09:45:17 AM
When redeeming JAL for RJ, Zone 6, 8,001-12,000 is 55,000/80,000 for Y/C.
Considering that JFK-AMM-TLV-AMM-JFK is 11,612 miles (http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=Jfk-amm-tlv-amm-jfk&MS=wls&DU=mi), wouldn't this be a better redemption then the other OW partners?
Those rates are very close to what LAN offers for travel on RJ and LAN doesn't charge a fuel surcharge.
Hence the omission.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: aussiebochur on October 15, 2010, 10:51:28 AM
Those rates are very close to what LAN offers for travel on RJ and LAN doesn't charge a fuel surcharge.
Hence the omission.
For business, LAN is 89,000 starpoints, this is 65,000...
Approximately how  much is the fuel surcharge?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2010, 11:08:17 AM
For business, LAN is 89,000 starpoints, this is 65,000...
Approximately how  much is the fuel surcharge?
True, in business there is something to talk about.  I don't think RJ in business is anything great though. No idea about the fuel surcharge.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: AsherO on October 17, 2010, 12:43:36 AM
True, in business there is something to talk about.  I don't think RJ in business is anything great though. No idea about the fuel surcharge.

Could we please get another post (or amend this one) to show getting to Israel with MR points?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on October 17, 2010, 12:46:17 AM
Could we please get another post (or amend this one) to show getting to Israel with MR points?
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3722.0
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: AsherO on October 17, 2010, 12:52:43 AM
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3722.0

Thanks, I missed that.
Title: Re: Methods To Get To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: miles on October 19, 2010, 01:01:22 PM
I'll put it on the main site.  I just wanted to see if perhaps I missed any other good methods that people know of?
and whats with first class
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on October 19, 2010, 01:15:00 PM
and whats with first class
Considering that there are no first class seats on nonstop flights between North America and TLV (except for on El Al which can only be redeemed with El Al points) I didn't include them.

If someone wants to research the rates for the best First class option for flights with a stop feel free to post the results here!
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: miles on October 19, 2010, 03:06:18 PM
Considering that there are no first class seats on nonstop flights between North America and TLV (except for on El Al which can only be redeemed with El Al points) I didn't include them.

If someone wants to research the rates for the best First class option for flights with a stop feel free to post the results here!
using BMI its 140k united, continental,  145k aero plan 190k ba 195k
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: miles on October 19, 2010, 03:17:29 PM
Considering that there are no first class seats on nonstop flights between North America and TLV (except for on El Al which can only be redeemed with El Al points)
can't we use aa miles for El Al ?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on October 19, 2010, 03:29:33 PM
can't we use aa miles for El Al ?
only for coach or business class.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Q274 on December 09, 2010, 09:16:08 PM
Dan do you mind if i make a copy of your post on getting to israel
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on December 09, 2010, 09:17:47 PM
Dan do you mind if i make a copy of your post on getting to israel
Where are you posting it?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Q274 on December 09, 2010, 09:23:12 PM
Not gonna post it i am making a copy for  a friend of mine who is wasting points. Also my father is running a chinese auction for organization and one of the prizes is 200,000 points so i was thinking about giving the winner a copy of that if you dont mind
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: aussiebochur on December 09, 2010, 09:27:35 PM
Not gonna post it i am making a copy for  a friend of mine who is wasting points. Also my father is running a chinese auction for organization and one of the prizes is 200,000 points so i was thinking about giving the winner a copy of that if you dont mind
Why not spread the good word of DD and tell them to read it here?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Q274 on December 09, 2010, 09:29:00 PM
I tried, this person happens to be a waster and a non hocker (pays full price for diapers i.e.)
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: aussiebochur on December 09, 2010, 09:31:29 PM
I tried, this person happens to be a waster and a non hocker (pays full price for diapers i.e.)

Perhaps email him the link to the page.
Once he sees it he will be hooked to DD,
It's happened before...
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Q274 on December 27, 2010, 09:00:04 PM
dan you never got back to me (could be my fault) do u mind if i make a copy or two and hand them to friends who just dont use the computer?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on January 11, 2011, 08:44:19 AM
It only took me 3 months to make this thread into post form  :P
Did I make any mistakes?  (AsherO, that includes grammar mistakes :D)
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/11862
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: AsherO on January 11, 2011, 04:31:04 PM
Did I make any mistakes?  (AsherO, that includes grammar mistakes :D)

Ouch!
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: aussiebochur on January 11, 2011, 04:54:19 PM
It only took me 3 months to make this thread into post form  :P
Did I make any mistakes?  (AsherO, that includes grammar mistakes :D)
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/11862
In using AA miles:
-AA allows for free date changes and routing changes on award tickets.

May want to clarify.
There a $150 fee on saver awards for change of origin/destination. A fee will also apply if changing carriers.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on January 11, 2011, 05:14:45 PM
Ouch!
Actually I was being serious, I don't mind grammar corrections.

In using AA miles:
-AA allows for free date changes and routing changes on award tickets.

May want to clarify.
There a $150 fee on saver awards for change of origin/destination. A fee will also apply if changing carriers.
Every airline charges for O/D changes.  Does AA indeed charge $150 though for a carrier change with the same O/D?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: aussiebochur on January 11, 2011, 06:06:23 PM
Every airline charges for O/D changes.  Does AA indeed charge $150 though for a carrier change with the same O/D?
Seems so, see here (https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/programDetails/awards/makingAwardReservations.jsp)
"Changes to the itinerary which involve different AAdvantage award(s) than originally ticketed require a reinstatement of the original award ticket, payment of the applicable award reinstatement charge (see below), and a new award ticket issued."
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Devorah on January 11, 2011, 11:55:57 PM
Seems so, see here (https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/programDetails/awards/makingAwardReservations.jsp)
"Changes to the itinerary which involve different AAdvantage award(s) than originally ticketed require a reinstatement of the original award ticket, payment of the applicable award reinstatement charge (see below), and a new award ticket issued."


I have a ticket on hold with AA using AA and Elal via EWR and they told me to change it to via JFK would incur a $150 fee.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: aussiebochur on January 12, 2011, 01:05:35 AM
I have a ticket on hold with AA using AA and Elal via EWR and they told me to change it to via JFK would incur a $150 fee.
Although considered co-terminals, on awards they charge for the change.
It's the same with MIA and FLL.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: matzif4u on February 28, 2011, 05:38:22 PM
is there a way to tranfer back from ANA to starwoods?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on February 28, 2011, 05:52:03 PM
is there a way to tranfer back from ANA to starwoods?
No
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: matzif4u on February 28, 2011, 06:02:54 PM
Im searching for flight fom Budapest to Tlv on ANA and they are only showing me option of going through istanbul which they dont even have availability on from Istanbul to tlv. Continental shows me options why is ANA not showing any possibilies?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on February 28, 2011, 06:06:04 PM
Im searching for flight fom Budapest to Tlv on ANA and they are only showing me option of going through istanbul which they dont even have availability on from Istanbul to tlv. Continental shows me options why is ANA not showing any possibilies?
Call them to book other options.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: matzif4u on February 28, 2011, 06:13:39 PM
Is there a way for me to search? I have a possible flight using continental but because of connections its over 4000 miles hence it would be 38000 points instedad of  22000. My understanding is that they calculate on actual distance flown not from deaparting city to arrival. Is that correct?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: skyguy918 on April 08, 2011, 02:54:34 PM
How does one check skyteam availability? Delta is showing reward availability, but at much higher mileage than their lowest fares. If I wanna search a Delta flight with Alitalia miles, can I do that online? Do I call Alitalia?

A little confused.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: db on July 05, 2011, 12:27:54 PM
i just called to book a flight and they said that continental/united are now charging around $500 in fees. anyone know how to avoid those fees?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: AsherO on July 05, 2011, 01:28:32 PM
i just called to book a flight and they said that continental/united are now charging around $500 in fees. anyone know how to avoid those fees?

??? What's the itinerary like?  How does the $500 break down?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: db on July 05, 2011, 01:33:19 PM
i just called and asked to book a flight from Newark to Israel direct on continental and she told me as of july 1 they are charging the taxes and fees. didnt take down the specifics.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2011, 01:35:53 PM
i just called and asked to book a flight from Newark to Israel direct on continental and she told me as of july 1 they are charging the taxes and fees. didnt take down the specifics.
You called who? Continental?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: myb821 on July 05, 2011, 01:40:55 PM
i just priced out a direct flight for two people from ewt-tlv rt it was 90 in fees so i dont know who u spoke to
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: db on July 05, 2011, 02:03:21 PM
I spoke with ANA rep, who did you speak with?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: myb821 on July 05, 2011, 02:03:58 PM
I spoke with ANA rep, who did you speak with?
i thought u were talking abt continental i priced it with CO
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: db on July 05, 2011, 02:06:12 PM
so how do i book using starpoints  through ANA to continental and only pay 90 in fees?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: AsherO on July 05, 2011, 02:10:57 PM
I spoke with ANA rep, who did you speak with?

So is ANA starting to charge YQ on CO/UA?

Seems like they have recently raised YQ in other (http://www.ana.co.jp/cargo/en/int/news/fuel/2011/110630.html) departments (http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/us/e/local/about_ana/corp_info/pr/2011/110414.html).
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2011, 02:19:15 PM
So is ANA starting to charge YQ on CO/UA?

Seems like they have recently raised YQ in other (http://www.ana.co.jp/cargo/en/int/news/fuel/2011/110630.html) departments (http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/us/e/local/about_ana/corp_info/pr/2011/110414.html).
It's possible, but it seems more likely that it was a bad rep.
If you don't have the miles in your ANA account it can be very difficult to get them to price it out, so they usually resort to making stuff up.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: flyingace on July 05, 2011, 03:24:58 PM
Oh no!!! They had a 594.00 taxes and fees on a dummy ewr-tlv-ewr. Just checked. I have 60,000 points in there for a ticket. This is really the pits.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2011, 03:26:28 PM
Oh no!!! They had a 594.00 taxes and fees on a dummy ewr-tlv-ewr. Just checked. I have 60,000 points in there for a ticket. This is really the pits.
You checked online or on the phone?
This is really awful!

What are they charging for the US PHL-TLV flights?
Or the VS flights from BOS/JFK/IAD to LHR?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: flyingace on July 05, 2011, 03:30:23 PM
Checked online. I have the points in there already.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2011, 03:43:29 PM
Checked online. I have the points in there already.
Can you check PHL-TLV on US and IAD-LHR on VS?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: flyingace on July 05, 2011, 03:45:14 PM
Checked US PHL-TLV, no taxes at all came up. Will check the other soon.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: flyingace on July 05, 2011, 03:48:22 PM
IAD-LHR 559.50 in taxes in economy!!!!
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2011, 03:55:09 PM
IAD-LHR 559.50 in taxes in economy!!!!
Is that on Virgin on Continental/United?
Can you check Virgin pricing for BOS-LHR or JFK-LHR?

Sounds like the last good use on ANA miles will be on USAirways.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Chaikel on July 05, 2011, 04:00:15 PM
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Sounds like the last good use on ANA miles will be on USAirways.
At this rate, I highly doubt that's gonna last

(PS. I called about the name thing, and it's all good)
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: flyingace on July 05, 2011, 04:04:00 PM
That was on Virgin.
Is that on Virgin on Continental/United?
Can you check Virgin pricing for BOS-LHR or JFK-LHR?

Sounds like the last good use on ANA miles will be on USAirways.
You checked online or on the phone?
This is really awful!

What are they charging for the US PHL-TLV flights?
Or the VS flights from BOS/JFK/IAD to LHR?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: db on July 05, 2011, 04:06:46 PM
good thing I called before I transfered the points...
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2011, 04:14:50 PM
At this rate, I highly doubt that's gonna last

(PS. I called about the name thing, and it's all good)
USAirways may actually last.  CO/UA and VS both charge YQ on paid tickets, so that's probably what ANA is charging now.  US doesn't so ANA can't pull one out of thin air.

Search EWR-TLV on ITA.  You'll see in the fare details that CO charges a $514 YQ.  CO doesn't charge that on award tickets, but ANA does have the right to charge it if they want.

US does not charge any YQ for that EWR-TLV search.

Shame though, ANA miles just went way down in value!  Consequently US miles (a SPG transfer partner, often with bonuses available) just went up as they still remain a good SPG conduit for YQ-free Star Alliance tickets.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: flyingace on July 05, 2011, 04:20:34 PM
Should I book a US ticket now? Or do you think it will hold. Don't want to lose 60,000 points even though my current plans are up in the air.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2011, 04:34:27 PM
Should I book a US ticket now? Or do you think it will hold. Don't want to lose 60,000 points even though my current plans are up in the air.
For now US doesn't charge a YQ on any tickets.  I don't think ANA will charge YQ for them unless US starts charging a YQ.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: aussiebochur on July 05, 2011, 04:38:42 PM
USAirways may actually last.  CO/UA and VS both charge YQ on paid tickets, so that's probably what ANA is charging now.  US doesn't so ANA can't pull one out of thin air.

Search EWR-TLV on ITA.  You'll see in the fare details that CO charges a $514 YQ.  CO doesn't charge that on award tickets, but ANA does have the right to charge it if they want.

US does not charge any YQ for that EWR-TLV search.

Shame though, ANA miles just went way down in value!  Consequently US miles (a SPG transfer partner, often with bonuses available) just went up as they still remain a good SPG conduit for YQ-free Star Alliance tickets.
US is also a partner of VS and they charge YQ, no?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2011, 04:47:11 PM
US is also a partner of VS and they charge YQ, no?
It's a good question.
Virgin, BMI, and Lufthansa are known for charging high YQs.  If someone has those miles check about booking a US ticket and let us know if they charge a YQ.

Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: yare on July 05, 2011, 05:10:19 PM
IAD-LHR 559.50 in taxes in economy!!!!
its the same for upper class.  still a freakin fortune though.  what a shame, ana was the gem redemption for vs upper class.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: miles on July 05, 2011, 09:29:06 PM
YQ ?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: AsherO on July 06, 2011, 09:06:01 AM
YQ ?

Fuel surcharges.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: miles on July 06, 2011, 02:29:20 PM
Fuel surcharges.
Thanks
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: miles on July 12, 2011, 09:33:37 PM
I tried to book on aa by phone JFK- LHR in first for BA flights they charged 907. on Aa flights the charged 262
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: YOSEF on July 12, 2011, 09:43:41 PM
Makes sense; AA charges more for BA flights across the Atlantic.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: miles on July 12, 2011, 09:54:05 PM
Makes sense; AA charges more for BA flights across the Atlantic.
more then BA?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: YOSEF on July 12, 2011, 11:18:20 PM
AA charges more for BA flights than AA charges for AA flights.
It very well may even be more than BA charges for BA flight.
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on July 27, 2011, 12:50:13 PM
An updated post (now with an executive summary) can be found here: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/15417
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: aussiebochur on August 23, 2011, 07:29:28 PM
Any particular reason this is no longer a sticky?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on August 23, 2011, 07:35:38 PM
Any particular reason this is no longer a sticky?
OP is out of date, better info can be found here: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/15417
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: aussiebochur on August 23, 2011, 07:45:31 PM
OP is out of date, better info can be found here: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/15417
Right, it was the last post of this thread.
Maybe just sticky that link...
Only to stop 10's of new threads, "I have Starpoints, how do I get to Israel?"...
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on August 23, 2011, 08:01:47 PM
Only to stop 10's of new threads, "I have Starpoints, how do I get to Israel?"...
If only it did that even when it was stickied...
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: aussiebochur on August 23, 2011, 08:03:14 PM
If only it did that even when it was stickied...
Lol!
Too true...
Title: Israel for 35k miles r/t
Post by: al613 on October 30, 2012, 07:52:01 PM
"- If youíre doing a longer trip to that region from New York, the actual best choice is to use LAN kilometers to fly to Amman, Jordan, on Royal Jordanian. LAN only charges the equivalent of 35,000 miles roundtrip in coach for the nonstop flight to Amman (100,000 in business class). You can transfer Starwood points to LAN, meaning itís only 30,000 Starwood points for a roundtrip ticket to Jordan. Thatís a great deal. To check availability I would call American Airlines, since LANís call center can be hit-or-miss (Iím being generous). You could add on a leg from Amman to Tel Aviv for 6,000 miles roundtrip (12,000 LAN Kilometers)." http://www.onlinetravelreview.com/

Anyone tried flying with them?
Title: Re: Master Thread: Getting To Israel Using Starpoints
Post by: Dan on October 30, 2012, 08:05:58 PM
"- If youíre doing a longer trip to that region from New York, the actual best choice is to use LAN kilometers to fly to Amman, Jordan, on Royal Jordanian. LAN only charges the equivalent of 35,000 miles roundtrip in coach for the nonstop flight to Amman (100,000 in business class). You can transfer Starwood points to LAN, meaning itís only 30,000 Starwood points for a roundtrip ticket to Jordan. Thatís a great deal. To check availability I would call American Airlines, since LANís call center can be hit-or-miss (Iím being generous). You could add on a leg from Amman to Tel Aviv for 6,000 miles roundtrip (12,000 LAN Kilometers)." http://www.onlinetravelreview.com/

Anyone tried flying with them?
Nothing new there, see OP from 2010 or this post: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/23168
People have done it.  The 35K number is misleading at best.
Title: want to go to israel with miles/points
Post by: yossib on October 22, 2013, 11:01:34 PM
i have over 150,000 Starwood points is it wort using it to go to Eretz Yisroel if yes how? which airline should i transfer it to
Title: Re: want to go to israel with miles/points
Post by: real-brisker on October 22, 2013, 11:03:36 PM
i have over 150,000 Starwood points is it wort using it to go to Eretz Yisroel if yes how? which airline should i transfer it to
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