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Title: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Chapshnell on April 02, 2014, 12:04:55 AM
Hand or machine as well.. I'll start
$24 a lb.
Hand
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Post by: lcyitz on April 02, 2014, 12:14:21 AM
$999 a lb (gluten free )  ;D
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Post by: Vosizderneias on April 02, 2014, 12:24:03 AM

$999 a lb (gluten free )  ;D
nice one
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Post by: Joe4007 on April 02, 2014, 01:37:52 AM
$28.50 Spelt. Hand.
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Post by: CountValentine on April 02, 2014, 01:40:00 AM
Why is it so expensive?
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Post by: Freddie on April 02, 2014, 01:43:25 AM
Why is it so expensive?

Great question, Count! I bet you're used to seeing those boxes of Manishewitz for a few dollars a box at the grocery store.

What these guys are talking about is handmade stuff. Every phase of the process from reaping the wheat to kneading the dough is done the old fashioned way, no machines. It's a tedious process. Lots and lots of labor. If you could do it in China, I suppose it would be much cheaper. Hey! I just got an idea!!!!!
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Post by: CountValentine on April 02, 2014, 01:51:59 AM
I understand the labor part. Almost all the baking my Mom did was by hand.
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Post by: notanonymous on April 02, 2014, 01:55:15 AM
$25 Chabura (x 4 lb, for the seder)
Haven't bought the rest yet.
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Post by: Freddie on April 02, 2014, 02:04:53 AM
I understand the labor part. Almost all the baking my Mom did was by hand.

Right, but she didn't have someone with a stopwatch timing 18 minutes from when the flour gets wet.
It's a whole process. It's not normal baking.

Here, watch this: http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/269485/jewish/Matzah-Documentary.htm
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Post by: churnbabychurn on April 02, 2014, 09:37:35 AM
My BIL paid 65! "Just for the kezeisim"
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Post by: shmebeble on April 02, 2014, 09:39:46 AM
Supply and demand as well. We need it and have no other option but to buy it for these prices.
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Post by: EJB on April 02, 2014, 09:46:12 AM
Supply and demand as well. We need it and have no other option but to buy it for these prices.

+1
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Post by: CountValentine on April 02, 2014, 09:53:58 AM
Here, watch this: http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/269485/jewish/Matzah-Documentary.htm
So you can't use a regular oven?
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Post by: judahk88 on April 02, 2014, 09:54:24 AM
My MIL paid $18.50
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Post by: Chapshnell on April 02, 2014, 10:01:07 AM
So you can't use a regular oven?

No, its a special oven only used for baking Matzah. It doesnt take long for it to be baked.
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Post by: Sammy82 on April 02, 2014, 11:05:50 AM
I saw the 5towns Costco has it for $13.99. OUp and Squvare hecsher
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Post by: sillypainter on April 02, 2014, 11:12:26 AM
$25-30 depending on regular or spelt.
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Post by: Freddie on April 02, 2014, 12:21:52 PM
So you can't use a regular oven?

No, you watched the video. A regular oven would bake too slowly. The need these roaring hot brick ovens. The actual baking takes two minutes.
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Post by: CountValentine on April 02, 2014, 03:42:01 PM
No, you watched the video.
Did you watch it? It says about 20 seconds to cook. In this video it seems only a second or two. Anyone want to translate the the song for me?  :)
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Post by: Red on April 02, 2014, 03:49:10 PM
Did you watch it? It says about 20 seconds to cook. In this video it seems only a second or two. Anyone want to translate the the song for me?  :)
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http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/847035/jewish/Vehi-Sheamda.htm
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Post by: good sam on April 02, 2014, 05:38:31 PM
Great question, Count! I bet you're used to seeing those boxes of Manishewitz for a few dollars a box at the grocery store.

What these guys are talking about is handmade stuff. Every phase of the process from reaping the wheat to kneading the dough is done the old fashioned way, no machines. It's a tedious process. Lots and lots of labor. If you could do it in China, I suppose it would be much cheaper. Hey! I just got an idea!!!!!
Still doesn't justify price.  It's expensive because it could be. Same as esrogim.
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Post by: bubbles on April 02, 2014, 06:00:16 PM
Still doesn't justify price.  It's expensive because it could be. Same as esrogim.
Or because people need to be able to make a living doing this
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Post by: Saver2000 on April 02, 2014, 06:11:21 PM
Or because people need to be able to make a living doing this
If you're referring to the owners the matzah bakeries,  they make more than a living.
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Post by: shmebeble on April 02, 2014, 06:13:00 PM
If you're referring to the owners the matzah bakeries,  they make more than a living.
+1 it is also a few week endeavor. They must do something else as well, unless this really is enough money for a year!
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Post by: Achas Veachas on April 02, 2014, 06:22:57 PM
+1 it is also a few week endeavor. They must do something else as well, unless this really is enough money for a year!
From what I hear, it is...
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Post by: Saver2000 on April 02, 2014, 06:28:58 PM
+1 it is also a few week endeavor. They must do something else as well, unless this really is enough money for a year!
It is not a few weeks.  The actual baking starts chanukah time. 

They are busy pretty much the whole year with it. 

They need to get the flour, water,  supplies, etc. 
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Post by: TimT on April 02, 2014, 06:53:21 PM
Erev pesach matzohs are much more expensive.
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Post by: rivkao on April 02, 2014, 07:04:07 PM
$12
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Post by: MeirS on April 02, 2014, 09:17:07 PM
I don't think anyone is actually making a killing of this, from speaking to someone in the know, supplies cost a small fortune. Ever checked how much a lb of shmura flour costs? Ever see how much gets thrown out in these bakeries?
They probably do make enough money in these 3-4 months to live off throughout the year but what do you expect? Try tell your boss that you need a 4 month vacation for religious purposes. You can't really have another job with this and the bakery needs upkeep throughout the year.
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Post by: doodle on April 03, 2014, 12:51:00 AM
What these guys are talking about is handmade stuff. Every phase of the process from reaping the wheat to kneading the dough is done the old fashioned way, no machines. It's a tedious process. Lots and lots of labor.
  Not true . all bakeries in america and most everywhere reap with a combine . barring special order the grinding is machine as well . same with machine pump for the water. its only from the pouring of the water that its done by hand.
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Post by: yoruel on March 21, 2016, 03:58:41 PM
Has the price gone up this year?
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Post by: yesitsme on March 21, 2016, 04:38:02 PM
$11 I think i beat everyone here
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Post by: etech0 on March 21, 2016, 09:17:43 PM
Quote
How Much Did You Pay For A Slice Of Matzah
FTFY
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Post by: ExGingi on March 21, 2016, 09:44:11 PM
$11 I think i beat everyone here
Eh, I beat you. $39/lb for Spelt Matza.
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Post by: Denverite on March 21, 2016, 10:32:44 PM
$11 I think i beat everyone here

Yeah that's amazing!  Paid $14/lb for hand Shmura at Costco which I thought was great
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: chevron on March 22, 2016, 12:00:19 AM
I only eat matzxah by seder, day meal, shabbat, moshiach seuda.. scam it is.

Just as I dont buy an esrog, I cant accept this gouging... look, if your rich and buy mehudar gasos tefillen I get it.. but dakos should not be more than normal wages... stop trying to get rich off normal folks working their butt's off trying to pay their bills and leading a frum lifestyle.

I dont get along with my father at all but a few things I recall that changed my life, he mowed the lawn and painted a shull in CH free and he always lectured us about "mamon hekedesh" I think I was wasting napkins in the shull?

You got 2 buck chuck, terrenal as we call it 5 dollar feivel.. judaic based items need to come down in price

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Post by: miles lover on March 22, 2016, 03:28:39 AM
I only eat matzxah by seder, day meal, shabbat, moshiach seuda.. scam it is.

Just as I dont buy an esrog, I cant accept this gouging... look, if your rich and buy mehudar gasos tefillen I get it.. but dakos should not be more than normal wages... stop trying to get rich off normal folks working their butt's off trying to pay their bills and leading a frum lifestyle.

I dont get along with my father at all but a few things I recall that changed my life, he mowed the lawn and painted a shull in CH free and he always lectured us about "mamon hekedesh" I think I was wasting napkins in the shull?

You got 2 buck chuck, terrenal as we call it 5 dollar feivel.. judaic based items need to come down in price
Not sure what your rant is about but the gaon says you get a mitzvah for every kzais you eat so your really punishing yourself. Anyhow what's this moshiach seudah about  ? is it from menachem mendel or a previous rebbe ?
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Post by: Emkay on March 22, 2016, 03:47:21 AM
I only eat matzxah by seder, day meal, shabbat, moshiach seuda.. scam it is.

Just as I dont buy an esrog, I cant accept this gouging... look, if your rich and buy mehudar gasos tefillen I get it.. but dakos should not be more than normal wages... stop trying to get rich off normal folks working their butt's off trying to pay their bills and leading a frum lifestyle.

I dont get along with my father at all but a few things I recall that changed my life, he mowed the lawn and painted a shull in CH free and he always lectured us about "mamon hekedesh" I think I was wasting napkins in the shull?

You got 2 buck chuck, terrenal as we call it 5 dollar feivel.. judaic based items need to come down in price
Not sure exactly what you are saying and your hate seems to at times cloud your ability to properly articulate your feelings.
Either way since you seem to be an expert in the scammy matzo production can you please share which part is the scam exactly?
I hate the prices just as much as the next guy but I like to have a clear understanding of what's happening before I get all riled up
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Post by: emjee on March 22, 2016, 08:05:52 AM
Doesn't look like everyone's prices can be compared to one another. There are many types of matza (whether hand or machine), many companies and factories. maybe post prices on the type of matza bought (eg: shatzer , pupa, kerister,  satmar, chabad crown heights, chabad israel, jerusalem matza, Ukraine , mani, yehuda, strauss, rekusen, horowitz, hadar,geula, Boro park, lakewood, chareidim,  leibers, oat kastenbaum etc and even more....types are regular, WW, spelt and oat.) ..& some pple do hand , some do machine :)
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Post by: ExGingi on March 22, 2016, 08:13:43 AM
Anyhow what's this moshiach seudah about  ? is it.......?
Could you find a more respectful way to ask your question? I suggest that for your own dignity you edit your post, which I have truncated when quoting in order not to repeat.
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Post by: Emkay on March 22, 2016, 10:00:22 AM


what's this moshiach seudah about  ?
The Baal Shem Tov started it.
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Post by: chevron on March 22, 2016, 02:21:38 PM
#1 it hurts my stomach.
#2 simply states it's a waste of $ and terrible social pressure imho, I don't think everyone really believes in these far out chumros that cost $.

Costs go up because people are making more, the esrog business is a cash cow and I oppose that. Worse yet, more chumros are shoved in jacking up the price. Where you once bought a lulav or hadasim, now you buy them in packages with hechsherim on it costing $$$. Sure there is a market for it but now it's the norm.

I bet rabbi blumenkrantz would have opposed it, waste of $ and causes people to not bother to learn simple halacha or even mentchlichkeit of helping another.

If you have dough to waste and no time or options to bake chabura etc go spend it.

But I fail to see how costs go up, it's not like they pay the Russian ladies much.

Rabbi wein once wrote how some satmar yungerman were bothering him about some hashgacha aspect and pushing him to hire them for it, he says he went to reb yoel and mentioned this and that it was really not an halachic requirements, so reb yoel said, true but these guys are just married and need parnassah, help them out with a job.

I'm all for gainful employment, but this is crushing the cost of Judaism.

I hear stories about the restaurants with no teuda in Israel that state they are kosher and the teuda is baloney, the mashgichim barely come and often it's no different than mafia you pay protection for nothing *
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Post by: chevron on March 22, 2016, 02:27:08 PM
My post is aimed at the high and rising costs of hand made shmura matzah
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Post by: ExGingi on March 22, 2016, 02:48:44 PM
ust as I dont buy an esrog, I cant accept this gouging... look, if your rich and buy mehudar gasos tefillen I get it.. but dakos should not be more than normal wages... stop trying to get rich off normal folks working their butt's off trying to pay their bills and leading a frum lifestyle.
I don't think there can be any comparison between the price of Matzah and the price of Esrogim. Everyone knows that the price of an Esrog is EXTREMELY SUBJECTIVE (or as the saying goes, it is determined by the buyer, not by the Esrog). You will never see Esrogim sold by Costco!

Matzah on the other hand has some fixed costs that don't change, and then has variable costs depending on the demands of the Chabura (new Keilim, etc. etc. etc.).

I have resigned myself several years ago to only buy from a Yeshiva Chabura, that way I know my extra $ is at least subsidizing matzos for Talmidim or Staff of a Yeshiva.
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Post by: MeirS on March 22, 2016, 05:24:31 PM
Could you find a more respectful way to ask your question? I suggest that for your own dignity you edit your post, which I have truncated when quoting in order not to repeat.
+1

Is he a buddy of yours?
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Post by: rediplus on March 24, 2016, 09:33:05 PM
$65 chareidim. One lb regular, one lb whole wheat. Thinnest tastiest matza out there. Problem is good luck getting enough whole ones in a lb.
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Post by: ExGingi on March 25, 2016, 11:43:12 AM
$65 chareidim. One lb regular, one lb whole wheat. Thinnest tastiest matza out there. Problem is good luck getting enough whole ones in a lb.
I agree that Chareidim is thinnest, though Pupa are also extremely thin, but also taste like paper. When it comes to tastiest I have to vote for Crown Heights. Unfortunately, the taste is probably the only good thing about Crown Heights Matzos, but I have tried many different ones and the flavor of Crown Heights Matzos is simply the best. Of their Matzos the Spelt are best, followed by Whole Wheat, followed by regular.

In order to keep Matzos crispy, it's best to have the Matzos packed in 2lb corrugated boxes.
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Post by: shmoe joe on March 27, 2016, 10:59:44 AM
Mesamchie Lev is selling $12 per pound from various companies  for big familys!
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Post by: tzifanya54 on March 27, 2016, 07:06:47 PM
Yeah that's amazing!  Paid $14/lb for hand Shmura at Costco which I thought was great
Never seen hand matzah in Costco. I've seen machine though, which Costco was this?
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Post by: CS1 on March 27, 2016, 07:25:36 PM
$65 chareidim. One lb regular, one lb whole wheat. Thinnest tastiest matza out there. Problem is good luck getting enough whole ones in a lb.

we get Charedi every year. About $28/lb for reg shleimim and about $32/lb for whole wheat, incl. shipping out of town. They are very thin and taste great.
The thinness saves your jaws, especially at Tzafun. We get funny looks and lots of questions when we carry 6 boxes onboard SW, instead of in check-in, to keep them whole,
"Are those very fancy cakes in those large white bakery boxes?!?"   8)
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Post by: David Smith on March 27, 2016, 07:34:26 PM


I only eat matzxah by seder, day meal, shabbat, moshiach seuda.. scam it is.

Just as I dont buy an esrog, I cant accept this gouging... look, if your rich and buy mehudar gasos tefillen I get it.. but dakos should not be more than normal wages... stop trying to get rich off normal folks working their butt's off trying to pay their bills and leading a frum lifestyle.

I dont get along with my father at all but a few things I recall that changed my life, he mowed the lawn and painted a shull in CH free and he always lectured us about "mamon hekedesh" I think I was wasting napkins in the shull?

You got 2 buck chuck, terrenal as we call it 5 dollar feivel.. judaic based items need to come down in price

How much do you spend on wine? Crazy scam, isn't it? I'm sure you only drink a revi'is for kiddush each week, and the Daled Kosos on Pesach. You wouldn't want to support that scammy industry, would you?
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Post by: ExGingi on March 27, 2016, 08:51:55 PM

How much do you spend on wine? Crazy scam, isn't it? I'm sure you only drink a revi'is for kiddush each week, and the Daled Kosos on Pesach. You wouldn't want to support that scammy industry, would you?
Now if you really want to talk about a scammy industry (and total waste of Yiddishe Gelt) just think back a few days at the Mishloach Monos industry.
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Post by: David Smith on March 27, 2016, 08:53:56 PM
Now if you really want to talk about a scammy industry (and total waste of Yiddishe Gelt) just think back a few days at the Mishloach Monos industry.
Don't get me started on the party busses.
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Post by: grodnoking on March 27, 2016, 09:15:32 PM
Don't get me started on the party busses.
Or the cut that the collectors get.
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Post by: Dan on March 27, 2016, 09:23:35 PM
Or the cut that the collectors get.
Or having them cash your tzedaka check in for a steak dinner.
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Post by: Centro on March 27, 2016, 09:27:58 PM
Or the cut that the collectors get.
Otherwise the job wouldn't get done.
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Post by: Centro on March 27, 2016, 09:29:09 PM


When it comes to tastiest I have to vote for Crown Heights.
Ever tried Satmar Broadway?
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Post by: grodnoking on March 27, 2016, 09:29:14 PM
Otherwise the job wouldn't get done.
I collected 2 grand w/o a penny going to waste.
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Post by: Centro on March 27, 2016, 09:29:59 PM
I collected 2 grand w/o a penny going to waste.
I once did an electrician job for a friend and didn't charge a cent, now what?
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Post by: grodnoking on March 27, 2016, 09:30:51 PM
I once did an electrician job for a friend and didn't charge a cent, now what?
If your organization does not have friends maybe your organization shouldn't be running
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Post by: David Smith on March 27, 2016, 09:31:02 PM
I collected 2 grand w/o a penny going to waste.
Personally or with a group?
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Post by: grodnoking on March 27, 2016, 09:31:17 PM
Personally or with a group?
Group
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Post by: ExGingi on March 27, 2016, 09:36:37 PM
Don't get me started on the party busses.
We don't have those in Crown Heights! כאן צוה השם את הברכה
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ilherman on March 27, 2016, 10:02:40 PM
I agree that Chareidim is thinnest, though Pupa are also extremely thin, but also taste like paper. When it comes to tastiest I have to vote for Crown Heights. Unfortunately, the taste is probably the only good thing about Crown Heights Matzos, but I have tried many different ones and the flavor of Crown Heights Matzos is simply the best. Of their Matzos the Spelt are best, followed by Whole Wheat, followed by regular.

In order to keep Matzos crispy, it's best to have the Matzos packed in 2lb corrugated boxes.
Have you ever tasted Satmar Broadway Matzah?

You'd be surprised. By far better than CH.

My FIL has Chareidim. Its tasteless.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: CS1 on March 27, 2016, 10:05:14 PM
Have you ever tasted Satmar Broadway Matzah?

You'd be surprised. By far better than CH.

My FIL has Chareidim. Its tasteless.

how about the whole wheat chareidim. Better tasting?
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Post by: ilherman on March 27, 2016, 10:10:09 PM
how about the whole wheat chareidim. Better tasting?
I'm actually talking about WW.

Again, maybe for people who have not used Satmar, Chareidim is okay, but after being used to Satmar, Chareidim is bad news...
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Post by: Centro on March 27, 2016, 10:55:27 PM
Have you ever tasted Satmar Broadway Matzah?

You'd be surprised. By far better than CH.

My FIL has Chareidim. Its tasteless.
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Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 27, 2016, 11:44:42 PM
Have you ever tasted Satmar Broadway Matzah?

You'd be surprised. By far better than CH.

My FIL has Chareidim. Its tasteless.
Will have to try it after Pesach.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Centro on March 27, 2016, 11:50:22 PM


Will have to try it after Pesach.

Too busy till then?
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Post by: TimT on March 27, 2016, 11:52:14 PM
Have you ever tasted Satmar Broadway Matzah?

You'd be surprised. By far better than CH.
Thin or thick ?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 28, 2016, 12:10:17 AM

Too busy till then?
I already paid for my Matzos for this year, and since it's after Purim, we don't eat Matza until the first Seder, so won't have opportunity to try until after Pesach.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Centro on March 28, 2016, 12:13:59 AM


I already paid for my Matzos for this year, and since it's after Purim, we don't eat Matza until the first Seder, so won't have opportunity to try until after Pesach.
I only know from rosh chodesh, what's the mekor for not eating from after purim?
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Post by: ExGingi on March 28, 2016, 12:20:11 AM
I only know from rosh chodesh, what's the mekor for not eating from after purim?
Will have to look it up and get back to you, but ever since I remember it has been שלשים יום לפני החג.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 28, 2016, 12:34:18 AM
I only know from rosh chodesh, what's the mekor for not eating from after purim?
Found the following doing a Google search, will try to get more specific at another time

בספר "איגרות משה" לגאון ר' משה פיינשטין זצ"ל (או"ח סי' קנ"ה): "...יש מקום למה שנהגו הרבה שאין אוכלים מצה מראש חודש ניסן... היה שייך בעצם לאסור עוד משלושים יום קודם הפסח לרבנן, ומשתי שבתות קודם לפסח לרשב"ג. אך לא רצו חכמים להטריח כל כך על הציבור, לכך שייך שיחידים יחמירו על עצמם גם משלושים...". מאידך יש שהחמירו במצות חמץ גמור, שראוי להימנע מלאוכלן קודם הפסח, משום חביבות המצווה, וכדי לא לטעות בין מצת חמץ למצת מצווה, ששוות במראה וטעם, ראוי להימנע מאכילת מצה חודש ימים קודם לחג. מעין זה כתב גם הגאון ר' צבי פסח פראנק בספר מקראי קודש (ח"ב סי' כ"ה): "מצות חמץ שלנו הרי אין בהם שום היכר בינם למצות שיוצאים בהם ידי חובה לא במראה ולא בטעם", ולכן ראוי להימנע מאכילת מצות משני הסוגים כחודש לפני ליל הסדר.
מצאנו נימוק נוסף להימנעות מאכילת מצה בערב פסח, והוא, שהמצה הוקשה לקרבן פסח, וכשם שקרבן פסח אסור באכילה בערב פסח רק בלילה, הוא הדין למצה.
תנא דמסייע למנהג שלא לאכול מצה שלושים יום קודם לפסח מצאנו בחוברת "קובץ שמע בני" (בני ברק תשמ"ח) ובה ליקוטי מנהגים של יהודי (אשכנז) דרום גרמניה. במנהגי פסח כתוב: "אין אוכלים מצה שלושים יום לפני פסח, דהיינו משושן פורים". הנהגה זו הובאה גם בספר "מקראי קודש הלכות ליל הסדר" מאת הרב משה הררי (ירושלים תשנ"ב): "כך קיבלתי ממשפחת חתני, שהם כעשרה דורות פיעה"ק ירושת"ו, אך ייתכן שנהגו כן כבר בארץ מוצאם גרמניה".
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Centro on March 28, 2016, 01:02:17 AM
Found the following doing a Google search, will try to get more specific at another time

בספר "איגרות משה" לגאון ר' משה פיינשטין זצ"ל (או"ח סי' קנ"ה): "...יש מקום למה שנהגו הרבה שאין אוכלים מצה מראש חודש ניסן... היה שייך בעצם לאסור עוד משלושים יום קודם הפסח לרבנן, ומשתי שבתות קודם לפסח לרשב"ג. אך לא רצו חכמים להטריח כל כך על הציבור, לכך שייך שיחידים יחמירו על עצמם גם משלושים...". מאידך יש שהחמירו במצות חמץ גמור, שראוי להימנע מלאוכלן קודם הפסח, משום חביבות המצווה, וכדי לא לטעות בין מצת חמץ למצת מצווה, ששוות במראה וטעם, ראוי להימנע מאכילת מצה חודש ימים קודם לחג. מעין זה כתב גם הגאון ר' צבי פסח פראנק בספר מקראי קודש (ח"ב סי' כ"ה): "מצות חמץ שלנו הרי אין בהם שום היכר בינם למצות שיוצאים בהם ידי חובה לא במראה ולא בטעם", ולכן ראוי להימנע מאכילת מצות משני הסוגים כחודש לפני ליל הסדר.
מצאנו נימוק נוסף להימנעות מאכילת מצה בערב פסח, והוא, שהמצה הוקשה לקרבן פסח, וכשם שקרבן פסח אסור באכילה בערב פסח רק בלילה, הוא הדין למצה.
תנא דמסייע למנהג שלא לאכול מצה שלושים יום קודם לפסח מצאנו בחוברת "קובץ שמע בני" (בני ברק תשמ"ח) ובה ליקוטי מנהגים של יהודי (אשכנז) דרום גרמניה. במנהגי פסח כתוב: "אין אוכלים מצה שלושים יום לפני פסח, דהיינו משושן פורים". הנהגה זו הובאה גם בספר "מקראי קודש הלכות ליל הסדר" מאת הרב משה הררי (ירושלים תשנ"ב): "כך קיבלתי ממשפחת חתני, שהם כעשרה דורות פיעה"ק ירושת"ו, אך ייתכן שנהגו כן כבר בארץ מוצאם גרמניה".
Interesting, never heard of it.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 28, 2016, 01:08:55 AM
Interesting, never heard of it.
It is מנהג הפשוט in Lubavitch, so first one follows the minhag, and then one can start looking up mekoiros, if really interested.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: grodnoking on March 28, 2016, 08:37:32 AM
Have you ever tasted Satmar Broadway Matzah?

You'd be surprised. By far better than CH.

My FIL has Chareidim. Its tasteless.
I make my chaburah matzos there. Definitely delicious. Little bit on the thick side though. They have taste tests each year and make it a mix of whole wheat and regular flour to get the best taste for that years flour.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Chapshnell on March 28, 2016, 10:12:22 AM
$24 a lb. at the BP Matzah Bakery
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: David Smith on March 28, 2016, 10:20:43 AM
$24 a lb. at the BP Matzah Bakery
Chaburah?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Chapshnell on March 28, 2016, 10:25:31 AM
Chaburah?

no
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ilherman on March 28, 2016, 11:16:20 AM
I make my chaburah matzos there. Definitely delicious. Little bit on the thick side though. They have taste tests each year and make it a mix of whole wheat and regular flour to get the best taste for that years flour.
Isn't Chabureh wher you make everything your self?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: grodnoking on March 28, 2016, 11:36:18 AM
Isn't Chabureh wher you make everything your self?
We use their flour but we are more makpid on some technical details of the things that happen in the bakery. And we use bais rochel for rolling.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: chevron on March 28, 2016, 02:01:47 PM

How much do you spend on wine? Crazy scam, isn't it? I'm sure you only drink a revi'is for kiddush each week, and the Daled Kosos on Pesach. You wouldn't want to support that scammy industry, would you?

Yes and no, if you live in a social stigma type life where not having a status bottle of wine would shame you.. then yes.

So what, people who dont like wine, do not go and buy the most expensive bottle for kidush! I oppose people paying high $ on wines and have worked for years to try to reduce costs

btw royal owns rashi, keser, farbrengen and produces 3$ wines and 100$ wines.. thats fair imho.

Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on March 28, 2016, 02:11:57 PM
Thoughts on Shatzar vs Pupa Tzelem vs Chareidim?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Jewban on March 28, 2016, 02:20:00 PM
$1/ 5lb for $4.99 at Star Market in MA
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: srf60 on March 28, 2016, 02:37:52 PM
Thoughts on Shatzar vs Pupa Tzelem vs Chareidim?
Chareidim is the thinnest matza by far, but not very tasty, even their ww, which is a bit better.
Pupa is thicker, but tastes better, its a bit well done/crispy.
Shatzer I never had.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yoruel on March 28, 2016, 02:44:00 PM
Thoughts on Shatzar vs Pupa Tzelem vs Chareidim?
Every year i have all 3.
Chareidim thinner than Pupa Tzelem.(thus Chareidim is the Thinnest)
Pupa Tzelem tastier and thinner then Shatzer.

Go with Pupa Tzelem, and Chareidim.

Will you have a chance to taste test them or you hold 30 days before?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on March 28, 2016, 02:45:17 PM
Every year i have all 3.
Chareidim thinner than Pupa Tzelem.(thus Chareidim is the Thinnest)
Pupa Tzelem tastier and thinner then Shatzer.

Go with Pupa Tzelem, and Chareidim.

Will you have a chance to taste test them or you hold 30 days before?

30 days  :(

Is Pupa Tzelem tastier than Chareidim?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Yosel on March 28, 2016, 02:53:19 PM
30 days  :(

Is Pupa Tzelem tastier than Chareidim?
YES
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 28, 2016, 02:55:17 PM
30 days  :(

Is Pupa Tzelem tastier than Chareidim?
Haven't tasted Pupa Tzelem in a while, but my recollection of the last time I did was that it was like paper.

Bottom line IMHO is that for flavor you need Whole Wheat. The real thin matzos won't work well with Whole Wheat, you will get Matzo Meal! Best flavor is spelt, but that is also the most $$$.

As long as it's baked well, and moisture is kept away (I make sure all my matzos are packed in 2lb corrugated boxes, so I don't open one big box and let moisture in to the entire lot) even if not so thin, they can be quite crispy.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Chapshnell on March 28, 2016, 04:46:55 PM
30 days  :(

Is Pupa Tzelem tastier than Chareidim?

chareidim is awesome, $$$ though
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ilherman on March 28, 2016, 04:51:14 PM
Pupa Tzelem is tastier than Chareidim no doubt.

Dan, why are you not trying Satmar?

I know a lot OOTrs who only do Satmar.

True it that it is more to the thick side but what I do is I put them in to the oven for 7 minutes and they are crispy as crispy gets and no one minds that its thick.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on March 28, 2016, 04:53:02 PM
No interest in thick matzah.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yoruel on March 28, 2016, 04:53:12 PM
I put them in to the oven for 7 minutes and they are crispy as crispy gets and no one minds that its thick.
What Temperature?
I may try that this year.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 28, 2016, 05:36:35 PM
True it that it is more to the thick side but what I do is I put them in to the oven for 7 minutes and they are crispy as crispy gets and no one minds that its thick.
+1
Even thick matzo, if put in the oven (or for that matter even in the microwave - where it will initially come out soft, but will harden in a few seconds) will come out crispy and better tasting than any paper thin matzo. I think the flavor of Whole Wheat cannot be outdone, and it simply won't work with paper thin matzo.

That being said, I don't let any Matzos into my kitchen, so I don't do the oven thing for Pesach. I would also want to check with a competent LOR if there are no problems with "re-baking" the Matzo.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: eliteflyer on March 28, 2016, 05:56:52 PM
Or having them cash your tzedaka check in for a steak dinner.
First hand experience? You know for a fact that it wasn't the restaurant owner offering to cash the check for free?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Zalc on March 28, 2016, 06:16:26 PM
No interest in thick matzah.
Then try Montreal's if you haven't had it yet.

Surprised no one's mentioned it yet.

Thin, and the taste beats many others I've had.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Matovu on March 28, 2016, 06:27:10 PM
No interest in thick matzah.

Thick Matzohs is what my children fight over.
Man, take back that comment. In my entire life it's all we had. Yum.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Centro on March 28, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
No interest in thick matzah.
I actually like thick motzah, I don't like the melt in the mouth ones.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 28, 2016, 07:10:13 PM
Then try Montreal's if you haven't had it yet.

Surprised no one's mentioned it yet.

Thin, and the taste beats many others I've had.
-1
Got in one year based on recommendations and was quite disappointed.

I can't comment on Satmar as I don't recall ever trying it, but I have tried most of the other ones mentioned here, and despite many negatives I come back to Crown Heights Matzos. They taste the best.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Zalc on March 28, 2016, 08:04:01 PM
-1
Got in one year based on recommendations and was quite disappointed.
Out of curiosity, what about them disappointed you?

Like most things, try on a small scale before going all in.

Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 28, 2016, 08:11:44 PM
Out of curiosity, what about them disappointed you?

Like most things, try on a small scale before going all in.
Taste.

I don't know what it is about Crown Heights Matzos, the water, the oven, or the ratios of Whole Wheat to regular flour, but they simply taste the best.

In recent years they have also learned the hard way about giving service, though they still have a long way to go.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: srf60 on March 28, 2016, 08:25:12 PM
מצות קוממיות, are probably the best tasting matzo around.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 28, 2016, 08:58:34 PM
מצות קוממיות, are probably the best tasting matzo around.
They have excellent reputation also as far as הידור כשרות, at a certain point I heard someone was selling them here (also heard of Vizhnitz Bnai Brak) but never actually got to sample either of those.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ilherman on March 28, 2016, 09:53:16 PM
They have excellent reputation also as far as הידור כשרות, at a certain point I heard someone was selling them here (also heard of Vizhnitz Bnai Brak) but never actually got to sample either of those.
I've tasted קוממיות many times.  It does not even come close to Satmar.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ilherman on March 28, 2016, 09:54:46 PM
No interest in thick matzah.
As ExGingi said, put them in to the oven and you will have Beideh Velten. Get your hand on a box and try it. Or if you're in NY come over and I'll give you one...
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: chaimmayer on March 28, 2016, 10:02:10 PM
Anyone buy online?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on April 05, 2016, 03:10:25 PM
Pupa Tzelem spelt for $23.49/lb sound decent?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yakov116 on April 05, 2016, 05:45:04 PM
Pupa Tzelem spelt for $23.49/lb sound decent?
Yes
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: emjee on April 06, 2016, 05:59:49 AM
Pupa Tzelem spelt for $23.49/lb sound decent?
Where'd you find that ? That's a better price than their regular matza in factory LIR from last year
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: MosheP on April 06, 2016, 06:42:57 AM
I like Charedim for the Seder and for stam munching. 

Satmer for more hearty eating. 

I brok (bruk?),  when dipping the matza in the stuffed cabbage sauce you need satmer,  Charedim would dissolve in the sauce.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Zalc on April 06, 2016, 06:25:04 PM


I brok (bruk?)
Everyone is brok(e) after buying matzo...
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: E-MAN on April 06, 2016, 06:30:43 PM
I like Charedim for the Seder and for stam munching. 
Love Charedim. Anywhere I can get it without going to bakery?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: David Smith on April 06, 2016, 06:34:07 PM
Love Charedim. Anywhere I can get it without going to bakery?
Most of the big kosher supermarkets should carry most of the major brands.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: 3yummyboys on April 06, 2016, 07:32:41 PM
Love Charedim. Anywhere I can get it without going to bakery?

Most supermarkets are out of chareidim matzah by now. As of yesterday, KRM had some
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 11, 2016, 10:10:23 PM
Cost me $26 or $27 for 100% WW Matzah
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Marko Rubio on April 12, 2016, 02:20:08 AM
imo after tasting in the past years matzah from most bakery's, in taste nothing comes even close to satmar broadway,its not that thick at all (every box is different but most of the times its not thick)
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Marko Rubio on April 12, 2016, 02:24:38 AM
Pupa Tzelem spelt for $23.49/lb sound decent?
dan u Will thank me try satmar broadway over pupa tzelem, satmar is the most tasty and not thick at all compared to pupa tzalehm and the other bakery's, in taste nobody comes even close to satmar broadway
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on April 12, 2016, 02:25:34 AM
Nobody seems to sell it in CLE.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yochiek93 on April 12, 2016, 02:27:52 AM
Cost me $26 or $27 for 100% WW Matzah
What company?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Marko Rubio on April 12, 2016, 02:28:26 AM
Nobody seems to sell it in CLE.
and pupa tzelem they do sell in cle? Interesting Both are based in williamsburg

btw its interesting to see all williamsburg matzah bakery's packed with modern and litvish ppl coming to buy the matzahs before peasech
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: eliteflyer on April 12, 2016, 12:29:32 PM
$10.99 per lb for Ukraine handmade shmura matzah at Empire Kosher in Crown Heights. Anything cheaper for handmade?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: cozmohoot on April 12, 2016, 02:20:44 PM
Thoughts on Shatzar vs Pupa Tzelem vs Chareidim?
My father gets shatzer every year and gives some to the kids.
I think it's mighty good and tasty and usually pretty thin.
I believe he gets only ww.
He gets it from gabbai of the shul who makes a special run .
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ilherman on April 12, 2016, 04:50:26 PM
Nobody seems to sell it in CLE.
Just have it shipped to CLE?

Not sure though they are still selling....
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on April 12, 2016, 11:33:43 PM
Nobody seems to sell it in CLE.

So you got someone to bring it for you? /photo/1
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Centro on April 13, 2016, 09:13:24 AM
Nobody seems to sell it in CLE.
9k Avios away
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: 12HRS on April 13, 2016, 01:05:44 PM
9k Avios away

7500 or 15000 RT now no?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on April 22, 2016, 05:35:05 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-20/this-is-matzo-at-50-a-pound
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on April 22, 2016, 05:55:33 PM
4 pounds Pupa Tzelem spelt @ $23.49/lb.
4 pounds Shatzar Whole Wheat @ $23.99/lb.
Title: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: sammy n on April 23, 2016, 02:16:24 PM
150 shekel a kilo, bought 3 kilo.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: David Smith on April 27, 2016, 02:00:27 AM
890₪/ק'ג
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Emkay on April 27, 2016, 02:05:54 AM
890₪/ק'ג
Is that a joke?  Gold plated?

Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: sammy n on April 27, 2016, 03:08:40 AM
890₪/ק'ג
Did you mean 190 shekel? I mean the most I heard someone pay was 450 a kilo and that I though was pushing it, 890 I just can't believe.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on April 27, 2016, 08:30:22 PM
Did you mean 190 shekel? I mean the most I heard someone pay was 450 a kilo and that I though was pushing it, 890 I just can't believe.

Maybe it was מצת מצוה with price being extrapolated (as I believe those are sold by the piece, not by weight)
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: emjee on April 27, 2016, 08:54:06 PM
Maybe it was מצת מצוה with price being extrapolated (as I believe those are sold by the piece, not by weight)
Matzas Mitzvah is sold by the set (3) IME .
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2018, 11:26:10 AM
If I fly into NY for a day trip next month, which matzahs should I try and where do I buy them?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: BP16 on February 14, 2018, 11:29:14 AM
If I fly into NY for a day trip next month, which matzahs should I try and where do I buy them?
Hmm depends how you like them. I buy Shatzer Matza or you could probably go to Bingo and buy a box there.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2018, 11:31:55 AM
Hmm depends how you like them. I buy Shatzer Matza or you could probably go to Bingo and buy a box there.
They sell Shatzer in CLE. Quality seems to vary greatly by year.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: BP16 on February 14, 2018, 11:36:09 AM
They sell Shatzer in CLE. Quality seems to vary greatly by year.
yeah depends on weather and of course how old is your Matza as they start Chanukah
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on February 14, 2018, 11:38:11 AM
If I fly into NY for a day trip next month, which matzahs should I try and where do I buy them?
Pupa Tzelem
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: @Yehuda on February 14, 2018, 11:39:56 AM
Pupa Tzelem
+1 I think I need to bring with me to the in laws this year.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2018, 11:43:39 AM
Pupa Tzelem
I think someone sells that in CLE as well, is that better than Shatzer?
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Post by: aygart on February 14, 2018, 11:44:14 AM
+1 I think I need to bring with me to the in laws this year.
Smoked Matzo. They have a a blend of coal and wood they use for flavor.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2018, 11:45:13 AM
Pupa Tzelem
Do you get the regular or Whole Wheat? Any taste/thickness difference?
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Post by: aygart on February 14, 2018, 11:45:29 AM
I think someone sells that in CLE as well, is that better than Shatzer?
I have a feeling that what comes to CLE is from earlier in the season and not as fresh.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2018, 11:46:08 AM
I have a feeling that what comes to CLE is from earlier in the season and not as fresh.
Seems like it should be decent, no?
https://www.localjewishnews.com/2018/02/14/special-hand-made-shemurah-chaburah-matzah-baked-by-harav-blum-shlita-of-cleveland-heights-2-2-5/
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Post by: aygart on February 14, 2018, 11:46:35 AM
Do you get the regular or Whole Wheat? Any taste/thickness difference?

We get mostly WW except for the seder. The WW is a bit thicker but both are from the thinnest out there.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2018, 11:50:38 AM
We get mostly WW except for the seder.
Rationale?
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Post by: mgarfin on February 14, 2018, 12:00:34 PM
Krm in BP usually has a big variety, the fresher one's are marked.

I know that chardim matzos sell out in a few days.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2018, 12:01:10 PM
Krm in BP usually has a big variety, the fresher one's are marked.

I know that chardim matzos sell out in a few days.
How are fresher ones marked?
When do they sell charedim?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: mgarfin on February 14, 2018, 12:01:40 PM
Anyone know importer of cheap Israeli hand matzos?
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Post by: zagguru on February 14, 2018, 12:01:40 PM
anyone try the soft sephardic mattzah? Thoughts on taste?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Yammer on February 14, 2018, 12:01:47 PM
yeah depends on weather and of course how old is your Matza as they start Chanukah
Actually they all start right after Sukkos
Pupa Tzelem
Is the thinnest matzah around
I think someone sells that in CLE as well, is that better than Shatzer?
Groceries usually don't have the fresh ones either.

You need the brokers
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: mgarfin on February 14, 2018, 12:02:57 PM
How are fresher ones marked?
When do they sell charedim?
Baked after Rosh chodesh Adar, Purim, Nissan
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: TimT on February 14, 2018, 12:13:35 PM
How would he get pupa tzelem home without it all breaking ?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2018, 12:16:27 PM
How would he get pupa tzelem home without it all breaking ?
Why would it break if I carryon a few boxes?

Or I can just order from here I guess https://www.localjewishnews.com/2018/02/14/special-hand-made-shemurah-chaburah-matzah-baked-by-harav-blum-shlita-of-cleveland-heights-2-2-5/
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on February 14, 2018, 12:16:45 PM
Rationale?
There is a machlokes about which one is more of a hiddur for the seder, but the real reason is because of other hiddurim I get for the seder and those are made with white flour.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Yammer on February 14, 2018, 12:17:11 PM
Why would it break if I carryon a few boxes?

Or I can just order from here I guess https://www.localjewishnews.com/2018/02/14/special-hand-made-shemurah-chaburah-matzah-baked-by-harav-blum-shlita-of-cleveland-heights-2-2-5/
The thinnest matzah around
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on February 14, 2018, 12:17:20 PM
Why would it break if I carryon a few boxes?

Or I can just order from here I guess https://www.localjewishnews.com/2018/02/14/special-hand-made-shemurah-chaburah-matzah-baked-by-harav-blum-shlita-of-cleveland-heights-2-2-5/

That looks like a good option.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: TimT on February 14, 2018, 12:21:53 PM
Why would it break if I carryon a few boxes?

Or I can just order from here I guess https://www.localjewishnews.com/2018/02/14/special-hand-made-shemurah-chaburah-matzah-baked-by-harav-blum-shlita-of-cleveland-heights-2-2-5/
So so fragile. Any turbulence and it’s all shvarim :)
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: voldemort on February 14, 2018, 12:26:54 PM
Or I can just order from here I guess https://www.localjewishnews.com/2018/02/14/special-hand-made-shemurah-chaburah-matzah-baked-by-harav-blum-shlita-of-cleveland-heights-2-2-5/
Maybe verify that yours are from puppa/tzelem. It says “primarily baked in puppa/tzelem”
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2018, 12:32:40 PM
Maybe verify that yours are from puppa/tzelem. It says “primarily baked in puppa/tzelem”

Yup, going to ask about that.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: shapsam on February 14, 2018, 12:35:20 PM
The thinnest matzah around
-1 Chareidim from Boro Park is the thinnest.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: hvaces42 on February 14, 2018, 12:36:12 PM
Chareidim are the thinnest. Paper thin. You can order from the bakery and pick up. Its not far from KRM. No one has thinner matzah. KRM usually stocks them a day or two after Purim. Much cheaper from KRM then from the bakery itself.
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Post by: TimT on February 14, 2018, 12:43:13 PM
Are these paper thin matzos all burnt or they manage to keep them white ?
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Post by: shapsam on February 14, 2018, 12:44:10 PM
Are these paper thin matzos all burnt or they manage to keep them white ?
They keep them white.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yitzgar on February 14, 2018, 01:15:53 PM
I think someone sells that in CLE as well, is that better than Shatzer?
IME it's better, but I don't know if I've had shatzer fresh
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ilherman on February 14, 2018, 01:34:21 PM
They keep them white.
+1. But it's tasteless.

@Dan why wouldn't you try Satmar Broadway?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2018, 01:34:36 PM
+1. But it's tasteless.

@Dan why wouldn't you try Satmar Broadway?
Where do they sell them?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yitzgar on February 14, 2018, 01:39:46 PM
+1. But it's tasteless.

@Dan why wouldn't you try Satmar Broadway?
Satmar has good flavor, but very thick and dry
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: US on February 14, 2018, 01:58:34 PM
Where do they sell them?
In Williamsburg on Broadway. Probably in bakery only.
Satmar has good flavor, but very thick and dry
Not always.. but the taste is really good.
So is their whole wheat great in taste.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2018, 02:05:03 PM
+1. But it's tasteless.

@Dan why wouldn't you try Satmar Broadway?
The person selling Pupa Tzeilim in CLE says he also has Satmar Williamsburg. Is that the same as Satmar Broadway?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: chff on February 14, 2018, 02:07:47 PM
Satmar has Zali which is Broadway, Aronim which is Rutledge and a separate one in Monroe

The last few years I had all 3 and the best was Monroe, terms of taste, & packaging.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: mgarfin on February 14, 2018, 02:12:09 PM
Aronim which is Rutledge and a separate one in Monroe


Aronim use wheat from Arizona as opposed to Zalonim


There are many more stamar bakeries Bais Rochel, Monsey....
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: mgarfin on February 14, 2018, 02:13:10 PM
It may be a good idea to add a wiki with matzo bakeries and type.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on February 14, 2018, 02:44:44 PM
The person selling Pupa Tzeilim in CLE says he also has Satmar Williamsburg. Is that the same as Satmar Broadway?
Just get pupa tzelim. Great taste less filling (thin)
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on February 14, 2018, 04:20:35 PM
IME Crown Heights is #1 for flavor (get Whole Wheat). And probably bottom of the list for customer service.

Also freshness is meaningless, it's the packing that counts. You want your Matza packed in corrugated cardboard boxes, not in plain single layer cardboard boxes. As long as humidity is kept out, it will be nice and crisp. Also IME if you get late in the season (at least in Crown Heights) the matzos tend to be thicker (possibly workers already worn out?)

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Post by: yitzgar on February 14, 2018, 04:22:44 PM
Toasting in the oven for a minute should also help with freshness
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Post by: Sport on February 14, 2018, 04:24:45 PM
Here's another vote for charedim. 
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Post by: ExGingi on February 14, 2018, 04:25:49 PM
Toasting in the oven for a minute should also help with freshness
But if you are really careful about gebroks, Matza isn't allowed into the kitchen.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: mgarfin on February 14, 2018, 04:29:28 PM
2 Brands of Matzos sold in Brooklyn worth tasting

Montreal
Komemiyut
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: E-MAN on February 14, 2018, 04:51:31 PM
Chareidim are the thinnest. Paper thin. You can order from the bakery and pick up. Its not far from KRM. No one has thinner matzah. KRM usually stocks them a day or two after Purim. Much cheaper from KRM then from the bakery itself.
How does one order from the bakery?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on February 14, 2018, 06:13:49 PM
2 Brands of Matzos sold in Brooklyn worth tasting

Montreal
Komemiyut
I got Montreal one year and didn't care for it one bit.

Komemiyut has a great reputation for Kashrus and quality. Where is it sold?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: chff on February 14, 2018, 06:54:02 PM
Aronim use wheat from Arizona as opposed to Zalonim


There are many more stamar bakeries Bais Rochel, Monsey....
Let's not open that cam of worms, Arizona has been greatly improved since it started and Zalis don't take anymore from NY as original, they take eslewhere

I have every year both or 3 and the last year or 2 the Zalis I had where zoggy, Aronim Willy is a nes if I get Lechem Mishna for the entire Yom Tov, could be it my luck but had this the last 2 years

KJ comes each box with 2 bags which keeps it more fresh
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Post by: cholent on February 14, 2018, 07:19:46 PM
Another vote for satmar kj. It's thicker but fantastic flavor. I much prefer to shatz which we previously used or pupa which my in laws use
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: chff on February 14, 2018, 07:41:36 PM
Another vote for satmar kj. It's thicker but fantastic flavor. I much prefer to shatz which we previously used or pupa which my in laws use
I grew up on Satmar matza, love the thickness. Nowadays I go to my in-laws who have (I believe chareidim) for me it's like eating air/paper. The Satmar ones I can EAT, it's has a taste
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: mgarfin on February 14, 2018, 08:04:53 PM
I got Montreal one year and didn't care for it one bit.

Komemiyut has a great reputation for Kashrus and quality. Where is it sold?
Montreal
Supposedly is rich in fiber and is better for digestion

Komemiyut
Rav halbershtam in BP makes a run after Purim.
If interested I can get his #
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on February 14, 2018, 08:12:22 PM
Montreal
Supposedly is rich in fiber and is better for digestion
Yeah, they have something printed on their boxes about better digestion. Can't comment on that, as I didn't go very far with it. Flavor was definitely inferior to Crown Heights.
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Post by: aygart on February 14, 2018, 08:20:35 PM
IME Crown Heights is #1 for flavor (get Whole Wheat). And probably bottom of the list for customer service.

Also freshness is meaningless, it's the packing that counts. You want your Matza packed in corrugated cardboard boxes, not in plain single layer cardboard boxes. As long as humidity is kept out, it will be nice and crisp. Also IME if you get late in the season (at least in Crown Heights) the matzos tend to be thicker (possibly workers already worn out?)
IINM Chabad minhag is to allow 22.5 or 24 minutes to make matzo. Those who go with 18 would not want them. On the other hand the chazon ish went straight for a few hours.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2018, 08:24:33 PM
IINM Chabad minhag is to allow 22.5 or 24 minutes to make matzo.
Source?
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Post by: aygart on February 14, 2018, 08:27:06 PM
Source?
What I've heard around from reliable sources. I know of a bakery which sends over runs to Chabad for that reason.

22.5 is also the opinion of the GRA.
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Post by: Dan on February 14, 2018, 08:30:11 PM
Any bakery I can bring my kids to that would let them participate in the process?
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Post by: aygart on February 14, 2018, 08:33:45 PM
Any bakery I can bring my kids to that would let them participate in the process?
I hope not
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Post by: mgarfin on February 14, 2018, 08:49:36 PM
Any bakery I can bring my kids to that would let them participate in the process?

The Brooklyn schools all take the children to bakeries and get very up close access. Only in a chaburah will they be allowed to participate.
Stolin bakery on 18th ave in BP has chaburahs all day starting Rosh Chodesh Nissan
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Post by: aygart on February 14, 2018, 08:56:45 PM
The Brooklyn schools all take the children to bakeries and get very up close access. Only in a chaburah will they be allowed to participate.
Stolin bakery on 18th ave in BP has chaburahs all day starting Rosh Chodesh Nissan
I assume you mean participate by washing bowls and the like.
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Post by: mgarfin on February 14, 2018, 09:01:44 PM
I assume you mean participate by washing bowls and the like.

Yes, cleaning sticks. Some will let you carry a matzah from the table to the radler.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on February 14, 2018, 09:01:50 PM
Source?
What I've heard around from reliable sources. I know of a bakery which sends over runs to Chabad for that reason.

22.5 is also the opinion of the GRA.
Not sure about what he writes that only with hefsed miruba(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180215/8678dfbd5e2995a7749fd2f65724963d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180215/2d3d6be9663d614adf5c299c908dbe3f.jpg)
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Post by: ExGingi on February 14, 2018, 09:30:24 PM
IINM Chabad minhag is to allow 22.5 or 24 minutes to make matzo. Those who go with 18 would not want them. On the other hand the chazon ish went straight for a few hours.
I don't know which Chabad bakery you are referring to.

In Crown Heights they definitely time it at 18 minutes from the second the water is poured.

In Kfar Chabad, I believe they used to measure the 18 minutes from the moment the dough was put on the table (except for chaburos). IINM they no longer do that but go 18 minutes from when the water hits.
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Post by: davidrotts63 on February 14, 2018, 09:34:24 PM
Any bakery I can bring my kids to that would let them participate in the process?
In Lakewood there is a kids "matzoh Bakery"
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Yammer on February 14, 2018, 10:28:51 PM


2 Brands of Matzos sold in Brooklyn worth tasting

Montreal
Komemiyut



I got Montreal one year and didn't care for it one bit.

Komemiyut has a great reputation for Kashrus and quality. Where is it sold?

Komemiyut is very good bit it tastes totally different then the regular US matzah.

I know an agent as well
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Post by: coralsnake on February 14, 2018, 11:34:35 PM
Any bakery I can bring my kids to that would let them participate in the process?
Yes. Rolling the dough, making the holes, bringing it to the oven etc...
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Post by: Dan on February 14, 2018, 11:57:10 PM
Yes. Rolling the dough, making the holes, bringing it to the oven etc...
Where/when?
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Post by: aygart on February 15, 2018, 12:37:57 AM
Yes. Rolling the dough, making the holes, bringing it to the oven etc...
I assume you mean one made specifically for kids.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: coralsnake on February 15, 2018, 07:59:39 AM
Where/when?
PM
I assume you mean one made specifically for kids.
-1
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Post by: aygart on February 15, 2018, 10:03:04 AM
PM-1
To eat pesach?
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Post by: davidrotts63 on February 15, 2018, 10:05:00 AM
To eat pesach?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180215/a9ce30b6512e9687da796d5e4a3f6dbf.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180215/9e57bd9b0c2dda23621e3a83c4e041a7.jpg)
If you bring your kids to one if these places, it may not be so smart to eat from it as well
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Post by: aygart on February 15, 2018, 10:06:55 AM
If you don't bring your kids to one if these places, it may not be so smart to eat from it as well
Huh
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Post by: davidrotts63 on February 15, 2018, 10:19:26 AM
Huh
Fixed it
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on February 15, 2018, 10:21:55 AM
I don't know which Chabad bakery you are referring to.

In Crown Heights they definitely time it at 18 minutes from the second the water is poured.

In Kfar Chabad, I believe they used to measure the 18 minutes from the moment the dough was put on the table (except for chaburos). IINM they no longer do that but go 18 minutes from when the water hits.
It is not a lubavitch owned bakery but is bought from them by Lubavitch (knowing what they are getting). Maybe it is for hefsed meruba cases where it is better they get that than them eating bread.
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Post by: ExGingi on February 15, 2018, 10:30:35 AM
It is not a lubavitch owned bakery but is bought from them by Lubavitch (knowing what they are getting). Maybe it is for hefsed meruba cases where it is better they get that than them eating bread.
Whose hefsed merube are we talking about? What's the cost difference between doing 24 minutes vs 18 minutes?
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Post by: aygart on February 15, 2018, 10:49:11 AM
Whose hefsed merube are we talking about? What's the cost difference between doing 24 minutes vs 18 minutes?
I have no idea, but they are definitely able to buy them from this bakery for very cheap as closeouts. Not really sure about the specifics. I just know that they do it. I also think it is only to 22.5 minutes.
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Post by: Dan on February 15, 2018, 10:54:11 AM
Who is they?
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Post by: whYME on February 15, 2018, 10:57:51 AM
IME Crown Heights is #1 for flavor
+1
Maybe it's just because this is what I grew up with, but I always preferred CH to any I've tasted so far.

(get Whole Wheat)
IDK, a couple of years ago I got some WW any honestly I couldn't tell the difference from their regular.
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Post by: aygart on February 15, 2018, 11:01:42 AM
Who is they?
Some Lubavitch affiliated organization which buys it from them
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: whYME on February 15, 2018, 11:04:03 AM
But if you are really careful about gebroks, Matza isn't allowed into the kitchen.
-1/2

I think that depends on the layout of the kitchen, what's happening in the kitchen when you toast the matzos, etc...
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Knak Yankel on February 15, 2018, 03:56:03 PM
If I fly into NY for a day trip next month, which matzahs should I try and where do I buy them?

Definitely you should visit Satmar Broadway, it's probably from the busiest and most Mehuder in the Heimish world.

Its the taste i grew up on. I'm taking my kids in to the city every year when I'm going to bake and buy Matzos. (it's kids friendly, when they behave...)

They say the reason they have that great taste is because they are taking wheat from different locations like NY, Indiana, North Dakota, Kansas and more, and they playing around mixing them before milling. that the secret for the taste. also the water well where they take the water for Mayim Shaluni has a great taste.

price is about $28 a pound.
Location is 427 Broadway, Brooklyn, NY 11211

Welcome to NY, Enjoy!
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Post by: nobiggy on February 15, 2018, 04:00:07 PM
IME Crown Heights is #1 for flavor (get Whole Wheat). And probably bottom of the list for customer service.

Boro Park IMHO is the best, obviously Whole Wheat.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Yammer on February 15, 2018, 04:01:59 PM
Boro Park IMHO is the best, obviously Whole Wheat.
They are thick through.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Yammer on February 15, 2018, 04:31:40 PM
Any bakery I can bring my kids to that would let them participate in the process?
I'm sure that a special tour can be arranged if you'll post it to DDMS...
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Post by: Dan on February 15, 2018, 04:33:16 PM
I'm sure that a special tour can be arranged if you'll post it to DDMS...
TR, sure.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Yammer on February 15, 2018, 04:47:19 PM
TR, sure.
Let me find out.
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Post by: davidrotts63 on February 15, 2018, 05:36:12 PM
I'm sure that a special tour can be arranged if you'll post it to DDMS...
For that any will agree
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Post by: aygart on February 15, 2018, 05:50:29 PM
TR, sure.
Will we get a video of you talking about hte passover lamb?
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Post by: Dan on February 15, 2018, 05:51:19 PM
Will we get a video of you talking about hte passover lamb?
alol
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Post by: ExGingi on February 15, 2018, 06:38:58 PM
TR, sure.
Maybe we can have a DO there, and while you're at it bring along your favorite governor.  ;)
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on February 15, 2018, 06:39:52 PM
Maybe we can have a DO there, and while you're at it bring along your favorite governor.  ;)
Was only alol material the first time.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ilherman on February 15, 2018, 06:54:51 PM
The person selling Pupa Tzeilim in CLE says he also has Satmar Williamsburg. Is that the same as Satmar Broadway?
Ask him if its broadway or Rutledge.   You gotta go with Broadway. Never eat it straight out of the box though.  as they may be a few months old especially if you get them from CLE.    Put them in the oven for a few minutes, let it cool off and you will thank me.   Not only does it get back the full crisp but its easy to chew and the thickness will only be a plus.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Shua on February 16, 2018, 02:21:07 AM
Another vote for charedim. By far the thinnest and I got 2 pounds of pupa Salem last year to compare.

You can just walk into the actual bakery and they will allow you and your kids to watch everything from the mixing, kneading to the actual baking. No touching anything though.

In regards to actual buying matzo at the bakery, from purim till pesach every day is baked by a chabura. But if there is any extra they will sell it to you. The closer you are to pesach the less likely they will have extra.

There is also a children's matzo bakery on Ocean parkway by Brighton Beach in a chabad shul/school if I remember correctly.

Enjoy! 
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: miles lover on February 16, 2018, 10:00:00 AM
Definitely you should visit Satmar Broadway, it's probably from the busiest and most Mehuder in the Heimish world.

Its the taste i grew up on. I'm taking my kids in to the city every year when I'm going to bake and buy Matzos. (it's kids friendly, when they behave...)

They say the reason they have that great taste is because they are taking wheat from different locations like NY, Indiana, North Dakota, Kansas and more, and they playing around mixing them before milling. that the secret for the taste. also the water well where they take the water for Mayim Shaluni has a great taste.

price is about $28 a pound.
Location is 427 Broadway, Brooklyn, NY 11211

Welcome to NY, Enjoy!
+1   
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ADG on February 16, 2018, 12:47:06 PM
anyone know someone that will deliver matza in Israel?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on February 16, 2018, 01:58:53 PM
anyone know someone that will deliver matza in Israel?
Deliver where? How much?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Knak Yankel on March 05, 2018, 05:14:58 PM
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/1480899/watch-williamsburg-residents-find-something-new-to-complain-about-satmar-matzah-bakery.html

https://www.timesofisrael.com/brooklyn-residents-demonstrate-against-matzah-factory/

Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: TimT on March 08, 2018, 10:30:35 AM
If I fly into NY for a day trip next month
ETA ? :)
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: TimT on March 08, 2018, 10:56:33 AM
Anyone try Lakewood thin matzos that KRM sells ?
Chareidem 2lb shvarim $74.99. WTH ?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on March 08, 2018, 10:58:13 AM
Anyone try Lakewood thin matzos that KRM sells ?
Chareidem 2lb shvarim $74.99. WTH ?
What's Lakewood "thin" matzo, what's bakery?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: TimT on March 08, 2018, 11:04:01 AM
What's Lakewood "thin" matzo, what's bakery?
Says Lakewood on box & baked especially for KRM. “Extra thin”
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on March 08, 2018, 11:55:01 AM
Says Lakewood on box & baked especially for KRM. “Extra thin”
I'm a fan of Lakewood myself (haven't tried many other) never heard if this thin one so I don't know
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: hvaces42 on March 08, 2018, 12:19:18 PM

Chareidem 2lb shvarim $74.99. WTH ?
Saw that yesterday and had the same reaction. I can only imagine what my father paid at the bakery for whole ones. And KRM was almost sold out of those.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: TimT on March 08, 2018, 12:26:13 PM
Saw that yesterday and had the same reaction. I can only imagine what my father paid at the bakery for whole ones. And KRM was almost sold out of those.
According to 1 of the workers it’s just the name, whatever that means. In his words “If you weren’t looking specifically for chareidem, don’t get it”.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: hvaces42 on March 08, 2018, 12:32:45 PM
According to 1 of the workers it’s just the name, whatever that means. In his words “If you weren’t looking specifically for chareidem, don’t get it”.
Chareidim are by far the thinnest matzahs out there so I dont know what that is even supposed to mean. :o
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 08, 2018, 12:36:10 PM
IINM Chabad minhag is to allow 22.5 or 24 minutes to make matzo. Those who go with 18 would not want them. On the other hand the chazon ish went straight for a few hours.
Yup, I've heard the same
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 08, 2018, 01:38:17 PM
Yup, I've heard the same
In which echo chamber?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 08, 2018, 01:46:17 PM
In which echo chamber?
You should know this!
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yzj on March 08, 2018, 01:51:38 PM
I bake with a chaburah and we reject many matzos which go to walk in customers. So if you are buying matzoh left over from a chaburah as opposed to a regular run, it’s a trade off. You are probably getting less shehiyos etc. if it’s a good chaburah, but you are getting the rejected matzos that may have some kefulos, underbaking issues etc. Just something to consider.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yitzgar on March 08, 2018, 02:00:19 PM
I bake with a chaburah and we reject many matzos which go to walk in customers. So if you are buying matzoh left over from a chaburah as opposed to a regular run, it’s a trade off. You are probably getting less shehiyos etc. if it’s a good chaburah, but you are getting the rejected matzos that may have some kefulos, underbaking issues etc. Just something to consider.
True, however while shehiyos are impossible to see from looking at the matza, one can make their own judgement regarding kefulos etc.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yzj on March 08, 2018, 02:37:33 PM
True, however while shehiyos are impossible to see from looking at the matza, one can make their own judgement regarding kefulos etc.
If you know what to look for, absolutely.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 08, 2018, 02:39:20 PM
True, however while shehiyos are impossible to see from looking at the matza, one can make their own judgement regarding kefulos etc.
But not if they were moist when coming out of the oven.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on March 08, 2018, 02:42:41 PM
In which echo chamber?
r/TheProtocolsOfTheEldersOfChabad
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: jj1000 on March 08, 2018, 02:49:44 PM
r/TheProtocolsOfTheEldersOfChabad
Please don't refer people there, don't want word of the blood in our matza getting out...
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: henche on March 08, 2018, 02:50:53 PM
Paid the ultimate price.  Pesach by inlaws.

Motzei yontiff DO?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 08, 2018, 02:53:35 PM
In which echo chamber?
He probably heard it from the same bakery that I did. I wrote on top where I got that concept from. I do not know how they reconcile with what youwrote.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on March 08, 2018, 02:55:31 PM
the same bakery
Probably the co-moderator of
r/TheProtocolsOfTheEldersOfChabad
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 08, 2018, 02:56:59 PM
Probably the admin of
I wrote before that I head this from a bakery which keeps those last few matzos which went over 18 minutes to send to some lubavitch affiliated organization. I know first hand that they do this.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on March 08, 2018, 02:58:14 PM
I wrote before that I head this from a bakery which keeps those last few matzos which went over 18 minutes to send to some lubavitch affiliated organization. I know first hand that they do this.
Maybe they give it out for mivtzoim purposes. How do draw a conclusion from that?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 08, 2018, 03:04:55 PM
Maybe they give it out for mivtzoim purposes. How do draw a conclusion from that?
That could be as I wrote there. But if that is the case then the answer is that it is only to use for special cases and not anything to do with
r/TheProtocolsOfTheEldersOfChabad
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on March 08, 2018, 03:06:38 PM
That could be as I wrote there. But if that is the case then the answer is that it is only to use for special cases and not anything to do with
You and CBC have stated that Minhag Chabad is 22-24 minutes when every Chabad bakery does hold by 18 minutes.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 08, 2018, 03:11:33 PM
You and CBC have stated that Minhag Chabad is 22-24 minutes when every Chabad bakery does hold by 18 minutes.
This is what I wrote there which seems to concur with what you wrote.
It is not a lubavitch owned bakery but is bought from them by Lubavitch (knowing what they are getting). Maybe it is for hefsed meruba cases where it is better they get that than them eating bread.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: henche on March 08, 2018, 03:21:49 PM
I thought chabad holds 72 mins. no?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: lubaby on March 08, 2018, 03:28:31 PM
I thought chabad holds 72 mins. no?
That's for total Pesach Seder time.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: TimT on March 08, 2018, 03:48:45 PM
That's for total Pesach Seder time.
Where’s the dotted line ? I’m joining the ranks
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 08, 2018, 04:42:36 PM
I thought chabad holds 72 mins. no?
Question is how long a mil is according to the Bal hatanya
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: henche on March 08, 2018, 04:48:06 PM
Question is how long a mil is according to the Bal hatanya

Most chabad meals I've been to were pretty long.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: skyguy918 on March 08, 2018, 04:59:37 PM
I took my kids to see the bakery on Albany ave. I was a little surprised to see they have a resident cat wandering around.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Denverite on March 08, 2018, 05:00:43 PM
I took my kids to see the bakery on Albany ave. I was a little surprised to see they have a resident cat wandering around.

OMG...LOL!  On another note, I just got my Holyland Shmura matzah at Costco for $14.95/lb  ;D
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on March 08, 2018, 05:08:44 PM
I took my kids to see the bakery on Albany ave. I was a little surprised to see they have a resident cat wandering around.
How else do you control the mouse and rat population in Brooklyn?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 08, 2018, 05:16:00 PM
Most chabad meals I've been to were pretty long.
My spelling is better than your sense of humor
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 08, 2018, 05:17:28 PM
You should know this!

So the final C is the echo of the first C, and the B is? (reminds me of a certain joke, which we will leave off forum for now).
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 08, 2018, 05:20:00 PM
My spelling is better than your sense of humor
-10000000000000000000000000
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: moko on March 08, 2018, 05:33:06 PM
Paid the ultimate price.  Pesach by inlaws.

Motzei yontiff DO?
you can stay in Boston. Well even have on restaurant open for pesach this year (cholov yisrael and non - gebrokts fir all the chabadniks who won't be eating there anyway)
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: jj1000 on March 08, 2018, 05:40:23 PM
This is what I wrote there which seems to concur with what you wrote.
What you wrote and what Dan was referring to was

IINM Chabad minhag is to allow 22.5 or 24 minutes to make matzo. Those who go with 18 would not want them. On the other hand the chazon ish went straight for a few hours.
Saying that Exgingi's statement about Chabad matza isn't good for most people because the chabad matza factories hold of 22.5 or 24 minutes. Which is what Dan is saying, is utter nonsense. It's simply not how it's done there.

And now that we know you are basing it on someone who claims to be a lubavitch affiliate buys matza at a discount that cooked longer and we have NO idea what they use it for, we can see how rumors start... and it's a terrible thing in this case.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: henche on March 08, 2018, 05:51:28 PM
you can stay in Boston. Well even have on restaurant open for pesach this year (cholov yisrael and non - gebrokts fir all the chabadniks who won't be eating there anyway)

Serving what?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 08, 2018, 05:54:29 PM
So the final C is the echo of the first C, and the B is? (reminds me of a certain joke, which we will leave off forum for now).
Huh?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 08, 2018, 06:02:49 PM
What you wrote and what Dan was referring to was
Saying that Exgingi's statement about Chabad matza isn't good for most people because the chabad matza factories hold of 22.5 or 24 minutes. Which is what Dan is saying, is utter nonsense. It's simply not how it's done there.

And now that we know you are basing it on someone who claims to be a lubavitch affiliate buys matza at a discount that cooked longer and we have NO idea what they use it for, we can see how rumors start... and it's a terrible thing in this case.
Once @ExGingi clarified that the typical Chabad minhag is not that way I corrected that it must be only for that. I am not sure why you are all jumping on us. Our source for what seems to be a misconception is not just some rumor. I heard this from the bakery. It seems that this is only for limited circumstances, and I can accept that, but it is not like it is some anti-chabad propoganda. FTR, the shita of 22.5 has a very strong basis and I can easily hear places having such a minhag. It is not really such a big deal. Sounds more like you guys have a chip on your shoulder than anything else.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: henche on March 08, 2018, 06:24:15 PM
Once @ExGingi clarified that the typical Chabad minhag is not that way I corrected that it must be only for that. I am not sure why you are all jumping on us. Our source for what seems to be a misconception is not just some rumor. I heard this from the bakery. It seems that this is only for limited circumstances, and I can accept that, but it is not like it is some anti-chabad propoganda. FTR, the shita of 22.5 has a very strong basis and I can easily hear places having such a minhag. It is not really such a big deal. Sounds more like you guys have a chip on your shoulder than anything else.

I knew a guy who would only eat from tanur acharon
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 08, 2018, 06:38:32 PM
Huh?
So now you claim not to even know who CBC is?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on March 08, 2018, 06:41:55 PM
So now you claim not to even know who CBC is?
Who is that?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Sport on March 08, 2018, 07:26:09 PM
Anyone try Lakewood thin matzos that KRM sells ?
Chareidem 2lb shvarim $74.99. WTH ?
Yeah chareidem keeps raisimg their prices.  $38/reg 43/ww.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 08, 2018, 07:41:35 PM
Once @ExGingi clarified that the typical Chabad minhag is not that way I corrected that it must be only for that.

Yet a full 3 weeks later, after your correction, CBC quotes your original post (pre correction) and  says:

Yup, I've heard the same

Quote
I am not sure why you are all jumping on us. Our source for what seems to be a misconception is not just some rumor. I heard this from the bakery. It seems that this is only for limited circumstances, and I can accept that, but it is not like it is some anti-chabad propoganda. FTR, the shita of 22.5 has a very strong basis and I can easily hear places having such a minhag. It is not really such a big deal. Sounds more like you guys have a chip on your shoulder than anything else.

The bakery (and the alleged Chabad affiliated organization) remain nameless.

The psak of the Alter Rebbe in his Shulchan Oruch is there for everyone to see, and the 3 Matza bakeries that have Lubavitch Rabbonim Hashgochos as their primary Hashgochos (Crown Heights, Kfar Chabad, and Ukraine) all keep to the 18 minute standard. Those facts are out in the open, and not hiding behind any anonymous rumor.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 08, 2018, 07:47:10 PM
Yet a full 3 weeks later, after your correction, CBC quotes your original post (pre correction) and  says:

The bakery (and the alleged Chabad affiliated organization) remain nameless.

The psak of the Alter Rebbe in his Shulchan Oruch is there for everyone to see, and the 3 Matza bakeries that have Lubavitch Rabbonim Hashgochos as their primary Hashgochos (Crown Heights, Kfar Chabad, and Ukraine) all keep to the 18 minute standard. Those facts are out in the open, and not hiding behind any anonymous rumor.
I heard it first hand from the bakery and it's Rav hamachshir. Many have heard about it from similar sources since someone made a tumult about it a few years ago. There is nothing to be gained by my naming the bakery. If you don't believe me go so be it. I do not know the name of the organization. At this point my assumption is that it is for distribution to some who would otherwise not eat matzo at all.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yzj on March 08, 2018, 08:14:36 PM
R SMK?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: eyj on March 08, 2018, 08:44:55 PM

Please correct me if I am wrong, but can anyone show me an authentic source ( not a contemporary likut Sefer) that the entire process MUST be shut down every 18 minutes? It almost never takes more than 10-12 minutes for a batch of dough to reach the oven. It is simply a hiddur to account for pieces of dough etc. that may be on the equipment and become chometz, making problems with subsequent batches. It is likely that earlier generations went well beyond 18 minutes without a break. (Even going to 22 minutes or more would not seem to pose a problem since tha last batch would not pass through any stage of the equipment more than 18 minutes after the first batch. If you are worried about the Rosh -and the Rosh can’t be literal as the Chazon Ish proves from the Gemara of one who remembers that he left dough in his house- then 18 minutes is probably going to be problematic as well.) So going a bit beyond the hiddur of 18 minutes is certainly not the end of the world and would hardly be a major issue or scandal...
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 08, 2018, 08:59:43 PM
Please correct me if I am wrong, but can anyone show me an authentic source ( not a contemporary likut Sefer) that the entire process MUST be shut down every 18 minutes? It almost never takes more than 10-12 minutes for a batch of dough to reach the oven. It is simply a hiddur to account for pieces of dough etc. that may be on the equipment and become chometz, making problems with subsequent batches. It is likely that earlier generations went well beyond 18 minutes without a break. (Even going to 22 minutes or more would not seem to pose a problem since tha last batch would not pass through any stage of the equipment more than 18 minutes after the first batch. If you are worried about the Rosh -and the Rosh can’t be literal as the Chazon Ish proves from the Gemara of one who remembers that he left dough in his house- then 18 minutes is probably going to be problematic as well.) So going a bit beyond the hiddur of 18 minutes is certainly not the end of the world and would hardly be a major issue or scandal...
According to the BHL that lisha doesn't warm up the dough that is not a raya.

Orchos rabbeinu brings that the chazon ish did not stop every eighteen.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: skyguy918 on March 08, 2018, 09:55:54 PM
How else do you control the mouse and rat population in Brooklyn?
Of course, that's what they said. But still...
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: eyj on March 08, 2018, 10:11:22 PM
According to the BHL that lisha doesn't warm up the dough that is not a raya.

Orchos rabbeinu brings that the chazon ish did not stop every eighteen.

The biur halacha is not sure if the Rosh is referring to standard dough, or only dough that actually became warm.

In any case, if you are mechalek between the lisha and aricha then the dough being worked with the poles (if that is the matzah bakery being referred to) is presumably part of the lisha, further narrowing the chashash of the Rosh to the point the matzah reaches the tables and onwards. From there it’s only a couple of minutes until the oven and a very short window for leftover pieces to become chametz “Miyad” ,and 22 or even 24 minutes total should really make little difference vs 18. The whole 18 minute shutting down (I’m not referring to running dough through the same point in the process 18 minutes after the dough first passed through that point, which would have a much stronger basis to be makpid) seems to be somewhat arbitrary, and while it is undoubtedly a nice hiddur, going over that doesn’t seem to deserve the huge tumult people would make of it....
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 08, 2018, 10:23:17 PM
The biur halacha is not sure if the Rosh is referring to standard dough, or only dough that actually became warm.

In any case, if you are mechalek between the lisha and aricha then the dough being worked with the poles (if that is the matzah bakery being referred to) is presumably part of the lisha, further narrowing the chashash of the Rosh to the point the matzah reaches the tables and onwards. From there it’s only a couple of minutes until the oven and a very short window for leftover pieces to become chametz “Miyad” ,and 22 or even 24 minutes total should really make little difference vs 18. The whole 18 minute shutting down (I’m not referring to running dough through the same point in the process 18 minutes after the dough first passed through that point, which would have a much stronger basis to be makpid) seems to be somewhat arbitrary, and while it is undoubtedly a nice hiddur, going over that doesn’t seem to deserve the huge tumult people would make of it....
I fully agree that the tumult they made there was a choshen mishpat question and not orach chaim.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: eyj on March 08, 2018, 11:17:21 PM
I fully agree that the tumult they made there was a choshen mishpat question and not orach chaim.
Choshen Mishpat? I wasn’t aware that any of that particular  matza was ever intended for the consumption of that olam.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 08, 2018, 11:20:25 PM
Choshen Mishpat? I wasn’t aware that any of that particular  matza was ever intended for the consumption of that olam.
Keyword intended.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: eyj on March 09, 2018, 01:10:41 AM
Keyword intended.
Sounds interesting, but probably not much of a choshen mishpat shaylah as far as monetary claims go. Go prove that your matzos are from the miut of the shift that took place after 18 minutes....
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yzj on March 09, 2018, 10:14:15 AM
Please correct me if I am wrong, but can anyone show me an authentic source ( not a contemporary likut Sefer) that the entire process MUST be shut down every 18 minutes? It almost never takes more than 10-12 minutes for a batch of dough to reach the oven. It is simply a hiddur to account for pieces of dough etc. that may be on the equipment and become chometz, making problems with subsequent batches. It is likely that earlier generations went well beyond 18 minutes without a break. (Even going to 22 minutes or more would not seem to pose a problem since tha last batch would not pass through any stage of the equipment more than 18 minutes after the first batch. If you are worried about the Rosh -and the Rosh can’t be literal as the Chazon Ish proves from the Gemara of one who remembers that he left dough in his house- then 18 minutes is probably going to be problematic as well.) So going a bit beyond the hiddur of 18 minutes is certainly not the end of the world and would hardly be a major issue or scandal...

I don’t know the history, but I would guess that 18 minutes goes back to the time that everything was done in the same general work area so there was a very real possibility of the guys doing the aricha coming into contact with some dough from the lisha, hence the idea of pulling the plug every 18 minutes. Today, when there is an assembly line style process, that isn’t a concern, but the 18 minute standard was retained. You could probably go another 4 or 5 minutes without an issue by setting 18 minute timers for each stage of the assembly line. So 22 minutes, although not the usual standard, is probably not the end of the world. Whether the 18 minute shutdown is relevant or not, it’s certainly cant hurt to shorten the process in light of the Rosh, anyhow...
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: EJB on March 09, 2018, 10:24:55 AM
Yanover matzas, $1000/lb
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 09, 2018, 10:27:36 AM
Sounds interesting, but probably not much of a choshen mishpat shaylah as far as monetary claims go. Go prove that your matzos are from the miut of the shift that took place after 18 minutes....
Lack of proof is only relevant if trying to get money back. They definitely aren't paying the extra amount per pound to need to rely on bitul and sfeikos. They made their own chabura and paid extra to have hiddurim not bdieveds. Can they enforce it? Probably not, but that doesn't make it right from a choshen mishpat viewpoint.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yzj on March 09, 2018, 10:30:02 AM
According to this article ALL machine matzos, even the mehadrin shemurah matzos rely on 22.5, since they don’t count the time of the lisha:
https://www.star-k.org/articles/articles/seasonal/342/machine-matzos/

“In these bakeries, the first 4 minutes of kneading are not calculated in the “18 minute count” because the halachah states that chimutz (leavening) does not begin if the dough is constantly being worked.  This is what is happening during the kneading and rolling processes; therefore, the 18 minute segment begins when the initial matzoh starts baking.  The entire segment takes 22.5 minutes, which is in compliance with the 22.5 minute mil.  However, each part of the segment lasts no longer than 18 minutes; hence, the bakeries call their matzohs “18 minute matzohs”.  This holds true for both regular (peshutos) and shmura mehadrin machine matzohs.  The only 18 minute machine matzohs that are calculated from the time the flour and water are mixed, as is done in hand matzoh bakeries, are chabura matzohs”
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 09, 2018, 10:33:11 AM
According to this article ALL machine matzos, even the mehadrin shemurah matzos rely on 22.5, since they don’t count the time of the lisha:
https://www.star-k.org/articles/articles/seasonal/342/machine-matzos/

“In these bakeries, the first 4 minutes of kneading are not calculated in the “18 minute count” because the halachah states that chimutz (leavening) does not begin if the dough is constantly being worked.  This is what is happening during the kneading and rolling processes; therefore, the 18 minute segment begins when the initial matzoh starts baking.  The entire segment takes 22.5 minutes, which is in compliance with the 22.5 minute mil.  However, each part of the segment lasts no longer than 18 minutes; hence, the bakeries call their matzohs “18 minute matzohs”.  This holds true for both regular (peshutos) and shmura mehadrin machine matzohs.  The only 18 minute machine matzohs that are calculated from the time the flour and water are mixed, as is done in hand matzoh bakeries, are chabura matzohs”
No way
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Post by: eyj on March 09, 2018, 10:34:13 AM
Lack of proof is only relevant if trying to get money back. They definitely aren't paying the extra amount per pound to need to rely on bitul and sfeikos. They made their own chabura and paid extra to have hiddurim not bdieveds. Can they enforce it? Probably not, but that doesn't make it right from a choshen mishpat viewpoint.
I don’t understand. If it was a chaburah then they were on site and they were סבר וקבל.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 09, 2018, 10:37:17 AM
I don’t understand. If it was a chaburah then they were on site and they were סבר וקבל.
Again, I am not talking about a teviah in bais din. At what point did they realize? Would they have been able to arrange to go elsewhere at that point in the season? As a practical matter they would have been backed into a corner at that point. They did not walk away feeling that they got what they paid for and quite understandably so.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 09, 2018, 11:28:22 AM
Quote is about Machine matzos.
I know
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ADG on March 09, 2018, 11:38:40 AM
im looking to order midal ha'emek matza in Israel (to be delivered in Israel) . Can anyone help me with a contact?

Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: eyj on March 09, 2018, 11:38:58 AM
Again, I am not talking about a teviah in bais din. At what point did they realize? Would they have been able to arrange to go elsewhere at that point in the season? As a practical matter they would have been backed into a corner at that point. They did not walk away feeling that they got what they paid for and quite understandably so.

My chaburah arranged with the matza bakery that we don’t take the batches of matzos towards the end of each run in any case- things get more frenetic at the end of a run and there are inevitably more shehiyos etc. -those matzos get boxed for regular customers. The bakery was happy to accommodate. That should have been a fairly simple solution- I guess they were blindsided and weren’t thinking straight.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: eyj on March 09, 2018, 11:42:08 AM
According to this article ALL machine matzos, even the mehadrin shemurah matzos rely on 22.5, since they don’t count the time of the lisha:
https://www.star-k.org/articles/articles/seasonal/342/machine-matzos/

“In these bakeries, the first 4 minutes of kneading are not calculated in the “18 minute count” because the halachah states that chimutz (leavening) does not begin if the dough is constantly being worked.  This is what is happening during the kneading and rolling processes; therefore, the 18 minute segment begins when the initial matzoh starts baking.  The entire segment takes 22.5 minutes, which is in compliance with the 22.5 minute mil.  However, each part of the segment lasts no longer than 18 minutes; hence, the bakeries call their matzohs “18 minute matzohs”.  This holds true for both regular (peshutos) and shmura mehadrin machine matzohs.  The only 18 minute machine matzohs that are calculated from the time the flour and water are mixed, as is done in hand matzoh bakeries, are chabura matzohs”

Is there any reason for there to be a difference in the standard for hand shemurah or machine, given the current process for both? It’s interesting that people are fine with the machine ( those who eat non - chaburah machine shemurah)  but have a problem when the same standard is applied to hand.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 09, 2018, 11:47:42 AM
My chaburah arranged with the matza bakery that we don’t take the batches of matzos towards the end of each run in any case- things get more frenetic at the end of a run and there are inevitably more shehiyos etc. -those matzos get boxed for regular customers. The bakery was happy to accommodate. That should have been a fairly simple solution- I guess they were blindsided and weren’t thinking straight.
It is a solution if they know to look for it in advance.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 09, 2018, 11:49:29 AM
Is there any reason for there to be a difference in the standard for hand shemurah or machine, given the current process for both? It’s interesting that people are fine with the machine ( those who eat non - chaburah machine shemurah)  but have a problem when the same standard is applied to hand.
There is basis for that in halacha. The chamimus al yidei eisek is described by some poskim as coming from the body heat of the hands. This would happen when hand kneading but not with a machine.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: eyj on March 09, 2018, 11:55:37 AM
There is basis for that in halacha. The chamimus al yidei eisek is described by some poskim as coming from the body heat of the hands. This would happen when hand kneading but not with a machine.
Good point.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 09, 2018, 12:12:27 PM
im looking to order midal ha'emek matza in Israel (to be delivered in Israel) . Can anyone help me with a contact?
Which matza are you referring to? The one under the Hashgacha of Rabbi Hendel from Migdal Ha'emek? (IINM the bakery isn't actually in Migdal Ha'emek).
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on March 09, 2018, 12:13:15 PM
Just paid $36 a pound
:)
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: TimT on March 09, 2018, 01:03:31 PM
Just paid $36 a pound
:)
Company ?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on March 09, 2018, 01:08:43 PM
Company ?
Lakewood.
With a Chaburah.
שיטת הרא"ש
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: US on March 09, 2018, 01:40:48 PM
Lakewood.
With a Chaburah.
שיטת הרא"ש
$36 for רא"ש I think is considered cheap.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on March 09, 2018, 01:41:28 PM
$36 for רא"ש I think is considered cheap.
I think it's the cheapest we've paid in a few years
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: US on March 09, 2018, 01:41:32 PM
Paid now $30 lb. Satmer Broadway
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: moko on March 09, 2018, 03:24:19 PM
$34 Rosh Chaburah KJ.
Best operation I've seen. And the one who organizis the Chaburah gives the bakeries a run for their money....
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on March 09, 2018, 03:26:42 PM
$34 Rosh Chaburah KJ.
Best operation I've seen. And the one who organizis the Chaburah gives the bakeries a run for their money....
I wish I had that by me, these workers just sat there wasting time. (making me nervous on רא"ש too) we threw out on average more then a full batch per 18 minute count.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: moko on March 09, 2018, 03:37:55 PM
I wish I had that by me, these workers just sat there wasting time. (making me nervous on רא"ש too) we threw out on average more then a full batch per 18 minute count.
ouch...by us we have someone by the tables turning the paper between matzas to ensure that the bits stuck to the paper are not on the next matzah. He also insisted that the lady dividing the matza should be oisek with her other hand while dividing the dough. Someone else insisted that the mixer (which was me for a bit) wash his hands  between every batch-not just every 18 min. (A bit overboard imho)
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on March 09, 2018, 03:39:54 PM
ouch...by us we have someone by the tables turning the paper between matzas to ensure that the bits stuck to the paper are not on the next matzah. He also insisted that the lady dividing the matza should be oisek with her other hand while dividing the dough. Someone else insisted that the mixer (which was me for a bit) wash his hands  between every batch-not just every 18 min. (A bit overboard imho)
The reason they were lazy by me, probably was because they had group like yours just before
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: moko on March 09, 2018, 03:48:01 PM
The reason they were lazy by me, probably was because they had group like yours just before
I think it has to with the bakery
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 09, 2018, 04:13:40 PM
I think it has to with the bakery
+1
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on March 09, 2018, 04:15:21 PM
I think it has to with the bakery
Agree, although I had a better experience previously. I literally was telling the boss every couple of minutes about the workers just stopping and schmoozing, for way too long. Definitely got nothing close to my money's worth.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 09, 2018, 04:17:56 PM
Agree, although I had a better experience previously. I literally was telling the boss every couple of minutes about the workers just stopping and schmoozing, for way too long. Definitely got nothing close to my money's worth.
I fully agree that the tumult they made there was a choshen mishpat question and not orach chaim.
Again, I am not talking about a teviah in bais din. At what point did they realize? Would they have been able to arrange to go elsewhere at that point in the season? As a practical matter they would have been backed into a corner at that point. They did not walk away feeling that they got what they paid for and quite understandably so.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on March 09, 2018, 04:23:53 PM

Didn't really follow that, and is too long to do now. I'd appreciate a summery.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: doodle on March 09, 2018, 04:43:29 PM
There are bakeries that go with 18 minutes all year except Erev Pesach. Erev Pesach the demand is so great they stop at 22.5 .  P.M. for names of Bakeries
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: eyj on March 09, 2018, 04:52:05 PM
Agree, although I had a better experience previously. I literally was telling the boss every couple of minutes about the workers just stopping and schmoozing, for way too long. Definitely got nothing close to my money's worth.
Don’t forget to keep the goal in mind aka Rav Yisrael Salanter with the matzos. Not worth being yotzei one pshat in the shitas harosh, if it can’t be done binachas uvishalom...
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Iz on March 11, 2018, 01:42:25 PM
An out of towner asked me to buy thin crispy matzos for him in Lakewood. Recommendations?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 11, 2018, 01:48:10 PM
Agree, although I had a better experience previously. I literally was telling the boss every couple of minutes about the workers just stopping and schmoozing, for way too long. Definitely got nothing close to my money's worth.
Did you ever try tipping the workers in advance?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on March 11, 2018, 01:49:40 PM
Did you ever try tipping the workers in advance?
That'll be a h*ll of a lot of money to give them all a satisfactory tip, and they know they are getting something at the end
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 11, 2018, 01:52:56 PM
That'll be a h*ll of a lot of money to give them all a satisfactory tip, and they know they are getting something at the end
One of the cardinal rules of business is that you get what you pay for (if you're lucky, often you get less).
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on March 11, 2018, 01:53:51 PM
One of the cardinal rules of business is that you get what you pay for (if you're lucky, often you get less).
$36 a pound
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 11, 2018, 03:17:15 PM
Did you ever try tipping the workers in advance?
BTDT
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 11, 2018, 03:47:10 PM
BTDT
And do you feel it made a difference?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 11, 2018, 03:49:52 PM
And do you feel it made a difference?
A difference? yes. Enough of a difference? no. To give enough to make enough of a difference would be cost prohibitive. For purely practical reasons I do not get from that bakery anymore.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 11, 2018, 04:23:14 PM
A difference? yes. Enough of a difference? no. To give enough to make enough of a difference would be cost prohibitive. For purely practical reasons I do not get from that bakery anymore.
I used to get from a Chabura that used to bake in Crown Heights and tip very generously. Unfortunately, the owners of the Crown Heights Matza bakery didn't know how to handle this good customer right so he stopped baking in Crown Heights (I think he bakes now in Lakewood). Sadly, he's not the only one I know who stopped buying from them, just because they don't know how to treat their (well paying) customers.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: eyj on March 11, 2018, 04:39:11 PM
I don’t know the history, but I would guess that 18 minutes goes back to the time that everything was done in the same general work area so there was a very real possibility of the guys doing the aricha coming into contact with some dough from the lisha, hence the idea of pulling the plug every 18 minutes. Today, when there is an assembly line style process, that isn’t a concern, but the 18 minute standard was retained. You could probably go another 4 or 5 minutes without an issue by setting 18 minute timers for each stage of the assembly line. So 22 minutes, although not the usual standard, is probably not the end of the world. Whether the 18 minute shutdown is relevant or not, it’s certainly cant hurt to shorten the process in light of the Rosh, anyhow...

Actually after thinking about it I realized that the time from when the flour and water is poured until the first dough hits the table with the pole is pretty minimal- probably under a minute. So the only way to extend he time would be to do things in sequence- sending  the dough to the 5 or 6 work tables with the poles batch by batch in sequencial order. The last batch would go to the last tables, which wouldn’t have come into contact with the dough until a few batches after the clock started. That’s probably overly complicated, and it makes sense that they choose to just shut everything down after 18 minutes, as opposed to machine matzos where if the process from start to finish takes 4 or 5 minutes, they can extend the 18 minutes by that amount without any problem...
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 11, 2018, 04:49:19 PM
I used to get from a Chabura that used to bake in Crown Heights and tip very generously. Unfortunately, the owners of the Crown Heights Matza bakery didn't know how to handle this good customer right so he stopped baking in Crown Heights (I think he bakes now in Lakewood). Sadly, he's not the only one I know who stopped buying from them, just because they don't know how to treat their (well paying) customers.
I think that is common among places which have a sort of monopoly over various groups.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 11, 2018, 04:55:48 PM
I think that is common among places which have a sort of monopoly over various groups.
It still amazes me how they don't learn. I can think of two individuals that used to spend many thousands every year, and left due to lack of service (one of them just because the bakery wouldn't handle shipping for him).
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: @Yehuda on March 13, 2018, 12:57:33 PM
Shatzer $28.50/lb OOT
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: keemster26 on March 20, 2018, 03:26:23 PM
Where do people rank "lakewood matzah"?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2018, 11:30:42 PM
.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180322/346545aa8b5af2bd8a5a89fc95821772.jpg)
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Post by: mmgfarb on March 22, 2018, 12:39:35 AM
.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180322/346545aa8b5af2bd8a5a89fc95821772.jpg)
Am I the only one who read that as shlita matzos?
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Post by: Yammer on March 22, 2018, 03:11:00 AM
.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180322/346545aa8b5af2bd8a5a89fc95821772.jpg)
The prices seems good. I would've thought that they charge more OOT
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: sky121 on March 23, 2018, 03:12:33 PM
Anyone but any Schmerlings for Pesach? Checking out the date of mine....

Are these last year's by any chance? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180323/24a6908c5d3f5e16b76ff9e1bfecb6a2.jpg)
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Savingsbeast on March 26, 2018, 03:27:01 PM
How much did you pay for your Matzha Cover?
I'm looking for decent low priced Matzah cover (fabric), has anyone bought on Amazon?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on March 26, 2018, 03:40:35 PM
Going to do some blind taste tests. I bought:

-Pupa Tzeilim Regular: $25.25
-Pupa Tzeilim Semi WW: $25.25
-Pupa Tzeilim WW: $27.50
-Shatzar Regular: $27.50
-Shatzar WW: $27.50
-Montreal Regular: $28.50
-Satmar Broadway Chabura: $36.50
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Moshe123 on March 26, 2018, 03:49:45 PM
Going to do some blind taste tests. I bought:

-Pupa Tzeilim Regular: $25.25
-Pupa Tzeilim Semi WW: $25.25
-Pupa Tzeilim WW: $27.50
-Shatzar Regular: $27.50
-Shatzar WW: $27.50
-Montreal Regular: $28.50
-Satmar Broadway Chabura: $36.50

Dates?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 26, 2018, 03:59:50 PM
Going to do some blind taste tests. I bought:

-Pupa Tzeilim Regular: $25.25
-Pupa Tzeilim Semi WW: $25.25
-Pupa Tzeilim WW: $27.50
-Shatzar Regular: $27.50
-Shatzar WW: $27.50
-Montreal Regular: $28.50
-Satmar Broadway Chabura: $36.50
Waiting with bated breath to read the TR. Will It come chol hamoed or after Pesach?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on March 26, 2018, 04:00:29 PM
Will It come chol hamoed or after Pesach?
Regular English?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on March 26, 2018, 04:12:23 PM
Regular English?
Huh? You got me totally confused with the capitalization there. Not sure if this is English or regular english.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: eliteflyer on March 26, 2018, 11:36:03 PM
Holyland at Costco in South Florida for $14.99/lb
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Yammer on March 27, 2018, 02:41:05 AM
Holyland at Costco in South Florida for $14.99/lb
Local grocery had it for 12.99
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on March 29, 2018, 09:59:30 PM
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yesitsme on March 30, 2018, 11:58:00 AM
We should make a thread "how much did you pay for a sheet corrugated plastic"
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: churnbabychurn on March 30, 2018, 12:14:45 PM
We should make a thread "how much did you pay for a sheet corrugated plastic"
+1 I felt like I was mugged at gun point and left bound and gaged in a ditch.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: farmbochur on March 30, 2018, 12:27:14 PM
Holyland at Costco in South Florida for $14.99/lb
$14.59/lb in PIT
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: moko on March 30, 2018, 01:44:13 PM
We should make a thread "how much did you pay for a sheet corrugated plastic"
I use this (https://www.homedepot.com/p/4-ft-x-8-ft-White-090-FRP-Wall-Board-MFTF12IXA480009600/100389836) $32. Last for many years. My parents have been using similar for over 15 years.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: TimT on April 01, 2018, 08:30:20 PM
So so fragile. Any turbulence and it’s all shvarim :)
I wasn’t kidding there. I don’t think I had 5 whole matzos from 6lb worth. Luckily I got a box of Lakewood ultra-thin which was fine. FYI they’re thinner than pupa-tzelem.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 01, 2018, 09:33:38 PM
I wasn’t kidding there. I don’t think I had 5 whole matzos from 6lb worth. Luckily I got a box of Lakewood ultra-thin which was fine. FYI they’re thinner than pupa-tzelem.
Interesting because my Lakewood matzos this year are thinner then they ever were, and they are marketed as "thin" I wonder if it's the same product. And my shlaimim to shivarim rate is amazing this year. I have 20 matzos per Lb. And about 8-9 shlaimim per Lb.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on April 01, 2018, 09:42:11 PM
$32.50/lb Chabura Matzos from Crown Heights. Some are thick and some are thin, but all are very crispy, thanks to my methods of packing and storing.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on April 01, 2018, 09:42:50 PM
Still waiting for the results of @Dan 's taste test.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on April 01, 2018, 09:43:39 PM
Still waiting for the results of @Dan 's taste test.
Not sure why it didn't become a link.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 01, 2018, 09:44:00 PM
Not sure why it didn't become a link.
on tapatalk.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 01, 2018, 09:45:00 PM
Still waiting for the results of @Dan 's taste test.
There we go.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on April 01, 2018, 09:45:20 PM
My pupa tzeilim were delicious as usual. They put them into a bag for the first time this year. A bunch broke while taking them out.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on April 01, 2018, 09:46:25 PM
There we go.
I've had it become a link on tapa. When does or doesn't it? I know you went through it.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 01, 2018, 09:49:00 PM
I've had it become a link on tapa. When does or doesn't it? I know you went through it.
We pretty much decided that it doesn't work on Tapa. Unsure why/how you've had it work previously
See:
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=90759.0
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on April 01, 2018, 09:55:44 PM
P"T Semi-WW was the big winner.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 01, 2018, 10:04:43 PM
P"T Semi-WW was the big winner.
And the price makes it all the more better.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: moko on April 01, 2018, 10:59:22 PM
Was very impressed with our kiryas yoel Chaburah rosh matza. Taste and smell we're great. Not only did they vacuum pack it, but the used resealable bags....
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: churnbabychurn on April 01, 2018, 11:08:46 PM
Is there really such a thing a good matza? Who knew..
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 01, 2018, 11:11:35 PM
Is there really such a thing a good matza? Who knew..
Up until the first korech yes.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: moko on April 01, 2018, 11:26:21 PM
Is there really such a thing a good matza? Who knew..
I think so. We eat matza all year round.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on April 02, 2018, 12:35:50 AM
P"T Semi-WW was the big winner.
That's it for the TR?

Semi-WW better than WW? Why?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: churnbabychurn on April 02, 2018, 12:46:17 AM
That's it for the TR?

Semi-WW better than WW? Why?
Aroma of plum blossoms with hints of chocolate on the nose...
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: avromie7 on April 02, 2018, 12:50:48 AM
Interesting because my Lakewood matzos this year are thinner then they ever were, and they are marketed as "thin" I wonder if it's the same product. And my shlaimim to shivarim rate is amazing this year. I have 10 matzos per Lb. And about 8-9 shlaimim per Lb.
FTFY
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 02, 2018, 12:52:32 AM
FTFY
True. That was a bad mistake, I was probably thinking per 2 Lb box.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on April 02, 2018, 12:57:44 AM
Aroma of plum blossoms with hints of chocolate on the nose...
There's a reason no one asks for your TRs  ;D

FTR, I find my taste buds (or food preferences/liking) to be very different than @Dan's, but I still like reading his TRs.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ilherman on April 02, 2018, 02:51:45 AM
@Dan what is satmar Broadway Chabureh matzah that you paid $36?  My satmar Broadway I paid $29.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: mmgfarb on April 02, 2018, 03:11:39 AM
P"T Semi-WW was the big winner.
Always is, probably always will be.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: mmgfarb on April 02, 2018, 03:12:43 AM
Semi-WW better than WW? Why?
We got the WW last year instead of our usual part WW, it was thicker and just not as good. We switched back to part WW this year and it was great as usual.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: MeirS on April 02, 2018, 10:09:31 AM
$32.50/lb Chabura Matzos from Crown Heights. Some are thick and some are thin, but all are very crispy, thanks to my methods of packing and storing.
I found the thickness of CH Matzos to be very inconsistent. Care to share your methods of packing and storing?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on April 02, 2018, 10:22:42 AM
We got the WW last year instead of our usual part WW, it was thicker and just not as good. We switched back to part WW this year and it was great as usual.
Not only was the WW thicker, but it was also more cracked, go figure.

PT Semi WW had a nice taste, was very thin, very crunchy, etc. Clear winner.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on April 02, 2018, 11:01:50 AM
There's a reason no one asks for your TRs  ;D

FTR, I find my taste buds (or food preferences/liking) to be very different than @Dan's, but I still like reading his TRs.
It's hard to take the taste buds of anyone that swears by parve cholent too seriously ;)
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: koshergourmetmart on April 02, 2018, 11:07:17 AM
got at evergreen 2 lbs of hidur hamatzot for $22.00.  It was however very thick. Definitely prefer Shatzer matza (for $26/lb)
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on April 02, 2018, 11:12:21 AM
got at evergreen 2 lbs of hidur hamatzot for $22.00.  It was however very thick. Definitely prefer Shatzer matza (for $26/lb)
Tried Shatzer plain and WW. Not nearly as thin or crunchy as PT 1/2WW, which was a relative steal at $25.25/lb.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on April 02, 2018, 11:17:27 AM
Not only was the WW thicker, but it was also more cracked, go figure.

Nothing surprising or rocket science required to figure that out.

WW is harder to work with, and simply breaks apart much more than white flour based doughs. That is why it's thicker (or else there would be 0 shleimos), and they simply are more brittle.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on April 02, 2018, 11:19:58 AM
Nothing surprising or rocket science required to figure that out.

WW is harder to work with, and simply breaks apart much more than white flour based doughs. That is why it's thicker (or else there would be 0 shleimos), and they simply are more brittle.
WW from Montreal and Shatzer were not problematic at all.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 02, 2018, 11:21:13 AM
WW from Montreal and Shatzer were not problematic at all.
They probably use less WW.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on April 02, 2018, 11:21:23 AM
I found the thickness of CH Matzos to be very inconsistent. Care to share your methods of packing and storing?
I believe I posted before, that having your matzos packed in 2lbs (or 1lb) corrugated boxes, opening them up only as needed, goes a long way in keeping moisture out and maintaining crispness. Also storing in a places with low to no humidity will help.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: aygart on April 02, 2018, 11:42:06 AM
Inconsistency of a product is never a good sign
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: JoeyShmoe on April 03, 2018, 09:48:21 PM
My pupa tzeilim were delicious as usual. They put them into a bag for the first time this year. A bunch broke while taking them out.
+1
I got upset after the first box when I only found 1 whole Matzah, second and third boxes were better B"H
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: TimT on April 04, 2018, 11:37:00 AM
Anyone ever try skvere matzo ? I saw it in Goldbergs
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: E-MAN on April 04, 2018, 01:00:00 PM
Anyone ever try skvere matzo ? I saw it in Goldbergs
Pretty thick
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: keemster26 on April 04, 2018, 01:20:36 PM
+1
I got upset after the first box when I only found 1 whole Matzah, second and third boxes were better B"H
Mine was good except for the top one that was cracked
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: koshergourmetmart on April 11, 2018, 08:54:15 AM
best shmura matza Chareidim Shmurah Matzoh Bakery. super thin. Around $40/lb but there are many matzas in the box because they are so thin
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on April 11, 2018, 09:14:42 AM
best shmura matza Chareidim Shmurah Matzoh Bakery. super thin. Around $40/lb but there are many matzas in the box because they are so thin
Is it really worth nearly double the price of P/T?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yuneeq on April 11, 2018, 09:58:42 AM
Is it really worth nearly double the price of P/T?

If you can afford it, yes.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: Dan on April 11, 2018, 10:20:34 AM
If you can afford it, yes.
Can't get it in CLE anyway, so it's a moot point. Was very happy with the P/T 1/2 WW.
Apparently they tried once, but it turned into matza meal...
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: mgarfin on April 11, 2018, 10:56:13 AM
best shmura matza Chareidim Shmurah Matzoh Bakery. super thin. Around $40/lb but there are many matzas in the box because they are so thin

I had 6 Erev Pesach matzos from Chareidim, tasteless. Maybe when I become old and the only thing I consider is my teeth. 
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on April 11, 2018, 11:04:46 AM
If you can afford it, yes.
-1

They are as thin as paper and the taste follows....

BH my methods for keeping matzos crispy worked very well this year. Even the thicker matzos were crispy and crunchy, and the flavor was excellent (WW, though I think next year I will insist on a higher percentage of WW, not sure, as those are likely to be a lot more brittle). My daughter also had CH Chabura Matzos, as well as some P/T spelt, and she didn't like any of it. I was somewhat surprised because in past years we've got some spelt from CH, and they were by far the most delicious matzos.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: yuneeq on April 12, 2018, 12:21:53 AM
-1

They are as thin as paper and the taste follows....

BH my methods for keeping matzos crispy worked very well this year. Even the thicker matzos were crispy and crunchy, and the flavor was excellent (WW, though I think next year I will insist on a higher percentage of WW, not sure, as those are likely to be a lot more brittle). My daughter also had CH Chabura Matzos, as well as some P/T spelt, and she didn't like any of it. I was somewhat surprised because in past years we've got some spelt from CH, and they were by far the most delicious matzos.

I guess I’ll agree to disagree. Everyone I met thinks Charedim is best and it’s not even close.
Market speaks for itself.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ilherman on April 12, 2018, 12:40:16 AM
If you can afford it, yes.
Only if you need really thin matzah, like someone who can't eat a cracker. Other than that there is no point. They claim the award for the most tasteless matzah.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on February 11, 2019, 10:17:50 PM
It's that time of year again. Got a call to place my Matzah order. $32.50/lb for WW, $42.50/lb WW 1st Oven.
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on February 18, 2019, 04:36:47 PM
It's that time of year again. Got a call to place my Matzah order. $32.50/lb for WW, $42.50/lb WW 1st Oven.
And $40.50 for Spelt.

(Above prices quoted before I mentioned my special packing instructions, which keep Matzos nice and crispy. I expect those instructions to raise the price).
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: avromie7 on February 18, 2019, 04:38:39 PM
And $40.50 for Spelt.

(Above prices quoted before I mentioned my special packing instructions, which keep Matzos nice and crispy. I expect those instructions to raise the price).
Can you share?
Title: Re: How Much Did You Pay For A Pound Of Matzah
Post by: ExGingi on February 18, 2019, 04:42:25 PM
Can you share?

I believe I did in the past. I just ask for every two pounds to be packed in CORRUGATED boxes. That way they stay crispy until opened. That's a few extra boxes for my 30+ lbs. order.