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Title: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 07:23:41 PM
the following comment by me stirred some strong comments from some members. what is your view of FOX news.


this is why Fox news has zero credibility. what a complete jerk.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: lunatic on July 27, 2014, 07:42:59 PM
Chaim, this clip definitely does make you question how fair. Did you see the entire program to see if it is taken out of context
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: lunatic on July 27, 2014, 07:48:58 PM
Ok, now I watched it. First of all, that is Sean Hannity, not fox news. Also, he could have just said "no"  and then explained
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 07:49:20 PM


Is CNN fair and balanced?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: lunatic on July 27, 2014, 07:58:41 PM


Is CNN fair and balanced?
Do they claim to be
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 07:59:42 PM
Is CNN fair and balanced?
that is your defense for calling me a jerk?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: Matovu on July 27, 2014, 08:15:36 PM
Go Chaim Moskowitz Go...
Finnally some clear talk. Rather then hearing from the right wing propaganda here all day.
At least the CNN doesn't claim to be fair.
I stopped believing Fox has any creditability like 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: damaxer91 on July 27, 2014, 08:21:54 PM
Big LOL at Fox being Fair & Balanced
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 08:25:42 PM
Go Chaim Moskowitz Go...
Finnally some clear talk. Rather then hearing from the right wing propaganda here all day.
At least the CNN doesn't claim to be fair.
I stopped believing Fox has any creditability like 10 years ago.
the thing is there is no defense for FOX. the only defense is to deflect the question to about other news agencies. it is like when you are caught speeding and your defense is the other guy was going faster.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: bubble347 on July 27, 2014, 08:32:19 PM


Is CNN fair and balanced?
I am really impressed by this spokeswoman's levelheadedness, she seems to clearly understand her stance thus she can clearly articulate it.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 08:33:09 PM
that is your defense for calling me a jerk?

You were called a jerk because you labeled the entire Fox News as having "zero credibility" based on the way YOU felt about a Hannity interview where the guy refused to answer a yes or no question. You used the term jerk, and so the term was used back at you.

the thing is there is no defense for FOX. the only defense is to deflect the question to about other news agencies. it is like when you are caught speeding and your defense is the other guy was going faster.


What nonsense. The CNN clip is one of many, many clips I can link here (when I have the time) to show the extreme bias of the network. Nobody has to provide a DEFENSE of Fox News. First prove that Fox News has zero credibility, and we'll take it from there.

As for fair and balanced, look at almost ANY Oreilly interview. He always, without fail, gives the last word to the guest, right or left. FOX also has a complete panel of Democrats in-house, including Juan Williams, Bob Beckel, Geraldo Rivera, Shepard Smith and more... Now go find me that many republicans on a left-wing network.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 08:43:05 PM
You were called a jerk because you labeled the entire Fox News as having "zero credibility" based on the way YOU felt about a Hannity interview where the guy refused to answer a yes or no question. You used the term jerk, and so the term was used back at you. my comment was not based on one clip.
the problem is I have watch FOX for longer than you could imagine.
FOX also has a complete panel of Democrats in-house, including Juan Williams, Bob Beckel, Geraldo Rivera, Shepard Smith and more...
if you believe these guys are all Democrats then you really need to get out more.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 08:44:04 PM
I am really impressed by this spokeswoman's levelheadedness, she seems to clearly understand her stance thus she can clearly articulate it.

Just to point out, this is an old interview from 2006. Funny how the same media attacks on Israel come back around every time. This CNN anchor is actually telling this woman that Israel should not use force, they should just shoot down the rockets being hurled at them.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 08:47:37 PM
the problem is I have watch FOX for longer than you could imagine.

I see. And you came to your own conclusion that they are not fair and balanced? This has nothing to do with your personal political leanings?

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if you believe these guys are all Democrats then you really need to get out more.

Oh, I'm sorry, a democrat must be a liberal fanatic to be considered a democrat? Does Fox need to hire Al Sharpton to prove to you that they are fair and balanced?

Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 08:50:04 PM
This has nothing to do with your personal political leanings?
you are just digging yourself a deeper hole. you have no idea what my personal political leanings are.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: aygart on July 27, 2014, 08:54:48 PM
I have found their news programs to be less biased than others while their talk and political programs are here right
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 08:57:06 PM
I would rate CNN, FOX then MSNBC.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 08:58:20 PM
you are just digging yourself a deeper hole. you have no idea what my personal political leanings are.

So far I'm standing very much on solid ground, as you have yet to disprove the fair and balanced title of Fox News.

I have no idea what your personal political leanings are, but writing off the entire Fox News, made up of hundreds of highly popular anchors, journalists and contributors of various political leanings only tells me one thing: you are repeating verses from the ultra-liberal party line.

Defend your "zero credibility" statement or concede. As the saying goes, "put up or shut up".
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 09:01:32 PM
So far I'm standing very much on solid ground, as you have yet to disprove the fair and balanced title of Fox News.
this statement speaks for itself. have a nice day.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 09:06:58 PM
this statement speaks for itself. have a nice day.

Running away much? Are you now having doubts about your "zero credibility" statement?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 09:10:02 PM
Running away much? Are you now having doubts about your "zero credibility" statement?
you can't have a reasonable conversation with someone who believes unreasonable things. if you truly believe that FOX is fair and balanced then their is nothing that I or anyone else can say that will change your mind.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: shnoz on July 27, 2014, 09:11:16 PM
I would rate CNN, FOX then MSNBC.
CNN?? Really!!??
I have no interest in arguing with you if Fox is balanced or not, but to say CNN is more balanced than them is just silly.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 09:12:40 PM
I have no interest in arguing with you if Fox is balanced or not, but to say CNN is more balanced than them is just silly.
i respect your opinion.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: TimT on July 27, 2014, 09:14:04 PM
CNN?? Really!!??
I have no interest in arguing with you if Fox is balanced or not, but to say CNN is more balanced than them is just silly.
+1. Not silly, just ignorant.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 09:16:17 PM
you can't have a reasonable conversation with someone who believes unreasonable things. if you truly believe that FOX is fair and balanced then their is nothing that I or anyone else can say that will change your mind.

Who gives you the moral high ground to state that in your favor, when I can state the same in my favor:

you can't have a reasonable conversation with someone who believes unreasonable things. if you truly believe that FOX is NOT fair and balanced then their [sic] is nothing that I or anyone else can say that will change your mind.

Oddly enough, I have never actually stated unequivocally that they are fair and balanced. You said that they have zero credibility and then you started a new thread to find out if your opinion about Fox News not being fair and balanced is shared by other members here. Clearly, you don't want to hear otherwise.

I simply made some points to prove why they MAY be fair and balanced, and why that title they give themselves holds water relative to all the other networks out there.

Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 09:17:33 PM
+1. Not silly, just ignorant.
we have jerk, silly and ignorant. when should I expect the anti-sematic label?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: Dan on July 27, 2014, 09:19:10 PM
This is silly.
Fox is conservative TV, CNN is liberal.
Who cares?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 09:19:57 PM
Oddly enough, I have never actually stated unequivocally that they are fair and balanced.
lets beat around the bush lets hear it.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ah on July 27, 2014, 09:20:51 PM
This is silly.

Haven't ever used that word with adults before but
+100
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 09:21:43 PM
This is silly.
Fox is conservative TV, CNN is liberal.
Who cares?
Fox and MSNBC are at the ends of the spectrum. CNN while not in the middle they are not at one extreme either.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 09:22:33 PM
This is silly.
Fox is conservative TV, CNN is liberal.
Who cares?

Fox is on average in the center. Hannity and Huckabee are conservative, Oreilly and Greta are very much in the center. When you combine averages, their position is in the center, as is WSJ.

Breitbart and Drudge are conservative.

Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: TimT on July 27, 2014, 09:23:12 PM
Fox and MSNBC are at the ends of the spectrum. CNN while not in the middle they are not at one extreme either.
wrong. They're at the extreme left.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 09:24:06 PM
Fox is on average in the center. Hannity and Huckabee are conservative, Oreilly and Greta are very much in the center. When you combine averages, their position is in the center, as is WSJ.

Breitbart and Drudge are conservative.
how were you in math in school?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 09:25:58 PM
how were you in math in school?

I only mentioned a small fraction of the equation. Take the hundreds of journalists, and the center-leaning journalists far outnumber the right-wing journalists.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: Matovu on July 27, 2014, 09:31:20 PM
This is silly.
Fox is conservative TV, CNN is liberal.
Who cares?

So why the claim of fair and balanced ?
Call yourself Conservative and don't lie to your viewers.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: TimT on July 27, 2014, 09:33:19 PM
So why the claim of fair and balanced ?
Call yourself Conservative and don't lie to your viewers.
Every viewer knows exactly which way they lean. They're not trying to fool anyone.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: Dan on July 27, 2014, 09:33:41 PM
CNN isn't lying by claiming to be impartial?
Everyone has an agenda. Fox is balanced news like Atkins is a balanced diet. Something needs to balance everything out.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 09:37:53 PM
Something needs to balance everything out.
the problem is if most of your news comes from one source. how can that be balanced out?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: Dan on July 27, 2014, 09:40:37 PM
Agreed. That's why you shouldn't get everything from one source no matter what your beliefs.

But I'll still call a spade a spade.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 09:41:50 PM
These headlines should end this debate.


Here are some recent headlines from Fox News:

Now, here are some from CNN:

The Fox News headlines do not in any way show favoritism to one side, whereas the ones from CNN...
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: TimT on July 27, 2014, 09:45:05 PM
These headlines should end this debate.


Here are some recent headlines from Fox News:
  • What are the keys to a lasting cease-fire in Gaza?
  • Obama tells Netanyahu US worried about mounting civilian deaths
  • Netanyahu vows Israel will do 'whatever is necessary' in fight with Hamas
  • Israel clashes with Hamas in Gaza Strip

Now, here are some from CNN:
  • How can bloodshed end?
  • Israel military rejects blame for deaths at U.N. shelter
  • Reporter's notebook: Scenes from the ground in Gaza
  • U.N. shelter in Gaza hit, 16 dead
  • Is Hamas using human shields in Gaza? The answer is complicated
  • In Gaza, attack on hospital delivers devastation and grief

The Fox News headlines do not in any way show favoritism to one side, whereas the ones from CNN...
There's a good reason why CNN is in the toilet. Just keep showing wolf blitzer & his situation room, that'll help.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 09:46:41 PM
CNN isn't lying by claiming to be impartial?
Everyone has an agenda. Fox is balanced news like Atkins is a balanced diet. Something needs to balance everything out.

They don't have to claim to be impartial. Journalism is by definition supposed to be impartial. The job of a journalist is to get the facts and report it, not skew it in favor of personal beliefs.

Perhaps Fox believes they deserve the Fair and Balanced title, because they have some right-wing journalists, but also have center and left wing journalists, whereas no other network can seriously make the same claim.

Maybe relative to MSNBC they are conservative, but relative to the MSM they consider themselves far more balanced than the other networks.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 09:49:04 PM
the problem is if most of your news comes from one source. how can that be balanced out?

That's right buddy. So if you are getting your news from ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, NYT or Huffington Post, you need to find another source to balance it out...
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 09:49:37 PM
These headlines should end this debate.
The Fox News headlines do not in any way show favoritism to one side, whereas the ones from CNN...
i think you missed the second headline.

'Dig Deep'
First lady Michelle Obama is complaining on the fundraising circuit about the evils of money in politics -- while also asking Democratic Party supporters to write a big fat check before the November elections.
Michelle Obama complains about money in politics, then asks for 'fat check'
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 09:52:03 PM
That's right buddy. So if you are getting your news from ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, NYT or Huffington Post, you need to find another source to balance it out...
so if all these are one sided then you need FOX to be extremely one side the other way to be balanced it out or is this the new math you are using again?  :)
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 09:55:55 PM
so if all these are one sided then you need FOX to be extremely one side the other way to be balanced it out or is this the new math you are using again?  :)

Who mentioned Fox? I don't believe Fox can balance out that much left-wing rhetoric and propaganda. This is why Obama won in 2008, and is most certainly why he won in 2012.

Maybe Breitbart or Drudge...
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 10:00:09 PM
Maybe Breitbart or Drudge...
you think those two can counter all those powerful networks. you didn't mean FOX in your statement?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: TimT on July 27, 2014, 10:01:56 PM
you think those two can counter all those powerful networks. you didn't mean FOX in your statement?
Drudge could counter anybody. He shapes the news.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 10:05:14 PM
i think you missed the second headline.

'Dig Deep'
First lady Michelle Obama is complaining on the fundraising circuit about the evils of money in politics -- while also asking Democratic Party supporters to write a big fat check before the November elections.
Michelle Obama complains about money in politics, then asks for 'fat check'

Not a problem, as long as they also have headlines like:

Gifts-for-favors trial set for ex-Virginia governor, wife (referring to GOP governor)

and

Obama tells Netanyahu US worried about mounting deaths

These are just what I found searching from Today's headlines. I've seen plenty of headlines in criticism of conservatives and the GOP.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 10:06:15 PM
you think those two can counter all those powerful networks. you didn't mean FOX in your statement?

Actually, NOBODY can counter all those powerful networks, thus my point.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 10:07:05 PM
Drudge could counter anybody. He shapes the news.
i wonder what percent of the country even heard of drudge? you believe he could counter the three big networks?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: Matovu on July 27, 2014, 10:09:20 PM
CNN isn't lying by claiming to be impartial?
Everyone has an agenda. Fox is balanced news like Atkins is a balanced diet. Something needs to balance everything out.

CNN does not run a fair and balanced slogen.
However they have their own reasons their ratings are down the drain.
The issue is Fox and they are clearly not a fair news org.
Clearly some here agreed they are not fair but its good because they balance out.... Whatever that means....
But the fair and balanced slogan is a clear lie.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 10:10:55 PM
But the fair and balanced slogan is a clear lie.
and that is the point of this thread.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: avremie on July 27, 2014, 10:33:38 PM
Don't judge the whole channel bases on hannity.
No one really believes that fox is not at all biased as no media outlets these days are truly non partisan its just where In line you place them.
Maybe CNN is fair and balanced because there's nothing biased about plane crashes
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 27, 2014, 10:35:12 PM

Maybe CNN is fair and balanced because there's nothing biased about plane crashes

;D :))
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: TimT on July 27, 2014, 10:36:19 PM
Don't judge the whole channel bases on hannity.
No one really believes that fox is not at all biased as no media outlets these days are truly non partisan its just where In line you place them.
Maybe CNN is fair and balanced because there's nothing biased about plane crashes
Are they still doing the plane simulator for the missing one ?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: avremie on July 27, 2014, 10:37:22 PM
Are they still doing the plane simulator for the missing one ?
They are having a hard time keeping up with Ukraine Algeria and Taiwan
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 10:38:25 PM
Maybe CNN is fair and balanced because there's nothing biased about plane crashes<img src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji2.png" />
the problem is over the past few years that went from reporting the news to the talk show format that get ratings.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: TimT on July 27, 2014, 10:41:59 PM
They are having a hard time keeping up with Ukraine Algeria and Taiwan
Blitzer could have 3 situation rooms.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 10:45:11 PM
CNN does not run a fair and balanced slogen.
However they have their own reasons their ratings are down the drain.
The issue is Fox and they are clearly not a fair news org.
Clearly some here agreed they are not fair but its good because they balance out.... Whatever that means....
But the fair and balanced slogan is a clear lie.

The problem is that the MSM has become so far left that just about anything reported on Fox News is now considered right wing or "Tea Party conspiracies".

The MSM virtually ignored the false reporting on Benghazi, the IRS fiasco, the Fast and Furious fiasco and the Sgt Berghdall swap. But you know what they DID report on? Trayvon Martin! Hours and hours and hours of airtime for Trayvon Martin.

When Fox actually investigates and reports this stuff, they are automatically labeled right-wing. If the MSM gave these stories even a fraction of the airtime that Fox gave them, you would have what to compare Fox against and decide if they are right-leaning, but when they are the ONLY ones reporting on this, how can their position be evaluated?

Now, when Obamacare passes (infuriating conservatives), Bill Oreilly goes on air explaining both sides of the debate, and then invites James Carville - a senior Democratic strategist, to explain the full Democratic point of view on Obamacare. Fox believes that this is considered Fair and Balanced.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 10:48:09 PM
Right now on Foxnews.com:

Israel, Hamas launch new attacks despite efforts to halt Gaza hostilities.

Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: TimT on July 27, 2014, 10:50:32 PM
Right now on Foxnews.com:

Israel, Hamas launch new attacks despite efforts to halt Gaza hostilities.
That is so far to the right. It should only say that Israel launched.  :)
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 10:54:13 PM
Now, when Obamacare passes (infuriating conservatives), Bill Oreilly goes on air explaining both sides of the debate, and then invites James Carville - a senior Democratic strategist, to explain the full Democratic point of view on Obamacare. Fox believes that this is considered Fair and Balanced.
Chris Matthews has had high ranking republicans on his show all the time. does this make him fair and balanced, of course not.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: zale on July 27, 2014, 11:01:09 PM
Chris Matthews has had high ranking republicans on his show all the time. does this make him fair and balanced, of course not.

You mean like this:

Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 27, 2014, 11:09:08 PM
You mean like this:
what is your point?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: TimT on July 27, 2014, 11:19:47 PM
Chris Matthews has had high ranking republicans on his show all the time. does this make him fair and balanced, of course not.
If he had the thrill going up his leg for republicans then he would be.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: shnoz on November 18, 2014, 09:43:26 AM
I would rate CNN, FOX then MSNBC.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/272133/despicable-distortion-of-facts-cnn-twists-headline-in-horrific-terror-attack-in-har-nof-shul-demand-to-revoke-ben-wedermans-press-pass.html
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: elit on November 18, 2014, 10:17:39 AM
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Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: Achas Veachas on November 18, 2014, 11:52:59 AM

Not very accurate, the analogue to know would be more on the lines of "8 Saudis killed in demolition of American business center"
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: good sam on November 18, 2014, 11:57:20 AM
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Repost, and this is one of the worst photo shop jobs I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: elit on November 18, 2014, 11:57:25 AM
Not very accurate, the analogue to know would be more on the lines of "8 Saudis killed in demolition of American business center"
Was thinking the same...
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: elit on November 18, 2014, 11:57:55 AM
Repost, and this is one of the worst photo shop jobs I've ever seen.
If you look at the time you would see the other one was a repost
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on November 18, 2014, 12:12:14 PM
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What does this have to do with FOX?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: elit on November 18, 2014, 12:16:12 PM
What does this have to do with FOX?
It was a follow up to shnoz post and post of the discussion of cnn's distortion of the situation in the mid east
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: YitzyS on July 01, 2020, 10:19:34 AM
Okay, let's wake up another sleeping thread and show it what 2020 looks like...

Not sure where to post this, and I'm hesitant about starting a new thread, so I guess this is the second best place.

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For those not familiar with him, he took over for Bill Hemmer a few months ago when Hemmer got his own show during the 3 o'clock hour, replacing Sheppard Smith.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: CountValentine on July 01, 2020, 10:33:31 AM
For those not familiar with him, he took over for Bill Hemmer a few months ago when Hemmer got his own show during the 3 o'clock hour, replacing Sheppard Smith.
Do you have a point you are trying to make?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: YitzyS on July 01, 2020, 10:38:02 AM
Do you have a point you are trying to make?
Sharing a piece of news. Some people on this forum may not be so familiar with the anchors of TV news outlets, so I'm giving a drop of background.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: CountValentine on July 01, 2020, 10:40:51 AM
Sharing a piece of news. Some people on this forum may not be so familiar with the anchors of TV news outlets, so I'm giving a drop of background.
Ok, just want to make sure no one thinks this only happens at FOX.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: YitzyS on July 01, 2020, 10:45:25 AM
Ok, just want to make sure no one thinks this only happens at FOX.
For sure.

It wasn't the optimal thread. But is there a thread about Allegations?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: CountValentine on July 01, 2020, 10:50:40 AM
For sure.

It wasn't the optimal thread. But is there a thread about Allegations?
Every thread has some form of allegations.  :)
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: justaregularguy on July 01, 2020, 07:25:21 PM
Ok, just want to make sure no one thinks this only happens at FOX.
wait, misconduct doesnt only happen at FOX but at other news channels as well?? thats news to me
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: YitzyS on July 01, 2020, 08:53:16 PM
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: CountValentine on July 01, 2020, 08:56:52 PM

Didn't expect that.  :)
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: mmgfarb on July 01, 2020, 09:40:52 PM
the following comment by me stirred some strong comments from some members. what is your view of FOX news.
FOX is about as fair and balanced as CNN is unbiased....We can argue as to the degree of their objectivity but to think that any mainstream news outlet is doing any sort of "real" journalism these days, is to be naive to the utmost, regardless of your political leanings.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: YitzyS on January 17, 2021, 01:47:38 PM
In an apparent attempt to salvage their slipping ratings, Fox News is revamping their lineup. Some interesting stuff here. I'm looking forward to hearing Bill Hemmer in the morning again, and I'm happy they booted Sandra Smith out of that slot.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/fox-news-channel-new-daytime-programming-lineup
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: aygart on January 20, 2021, 01:34:20 PM
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1351957555719725058.html
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: Jellybelly on February 06, 2021, 11:32:46 PM
Lou Dobbs just got cancelled
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 17, 2021, 12:36:51 AM

Imagine the outcry if NY lost power & Cuomo went on CNN with an elaborate conspiracy how its because of Republicans?

Alaska and Denmark have plenty of wind energy. Wind is 1.5 GW under expectations, solar is 1 GW above, nuclear is at 100%, and more than 30 GW of fossil fuel plants are off. Power in Texas is down for one reason and one reason only. For-profit companies have no interest investing big $$$ into weather proofing facilities for extremely rare events and you need government regulation for that. Redundancy from other states would also mean competition and less profits.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 17, 2021, 01:11:24 AM

Beyond me how people watch this garbage
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: YitzyS on February 17, 2021, 07:24:39 AM
Beyond me how people watch this garbage
You know what? You are absolutely right! I think I'm going to start watching Don Lemon instead...  :P
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: aygart on February 17, 2021, 09:36:34 AM

Imagine the outcry if NY lost power & Cuomo went on CNN with an elaborate conspiracy how its because of Republicans?

Alaska and Denmark have plenty of wind energy. Wind is 1.5 GW under expectations, solar is 1 GW above, nuclear is at 100%, and more than 30 GW of fossil fuel plants are off. Power in Texas is down for one reason and one reason only. For-profit companies have no interest investing big $$$ into weather proofing facilities for extremely rare events and you need government regulation for that. Redundancy from other states would also mean competition and less profits.

This shows a lack of understanding of energy regulation. It was actually regulatory price limits that caused this. This was discussed by ERCOT over the week. Each ISO has a different methodology to incentivize peaker generation. The methodology in TX has been from the most successful mainly by using free-market principles while keeping energy prices from the lowest in the country if not the absolute lowest. It is the limits on those which caused this.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 17, 2021, 09:48:53 PM
You know what? You are absolutely right! I think I'm going to start watching Don Lemon instead...  :P
I didn't say he's better, CNN is pathetic.

This shows a lack of understanding of energy regulation. It was actually regulatory price limits that caused this. This was discussed by ERCOT over the week. Each ISO has a different methodology to incentivize peaker generation. The methodology in TX has been from the most successful mainly by using free-market principles while keeping energy prices from the lowest in the country if not the absolute lowest. It is the limits on those which caused this.
Meh. The same storm passed over New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Arkansas who didn't suffer any power outages. This is a Texas made problem because weatherizing production is expensive and they chose to skip it. Rick Perry is still saying it was worth it (he may be right, but own it and don't blame the liberals).
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: YitzyS on February 17, 2021, 10:26:37 PM
I didn't say he's better, CNN is pathetic.
Meh. The same storm passed over New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Arkansas who didn't suffer any power outages. This is a Texas made problem because weatherizing production is expensive and they chose to skip it. Rick Perry is still saying it was worth it.
My like refers to the first part of your post. I don't know enough about energy in Texas to give an opinion on that part.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: YitzyS on February 17, 2021, 10:27:37 PM
I don't know enough about energy in Texas to give an opinion on that part.
Okay, so which smart aleck is going to respond to this with "That never stopped you before!"?
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: YitzyS on March 13, 2021, 10:25:06 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/media/fox-news-new-late-night-program-gutfeld-april-5

Greg Gutfeld is getting a weekday "Late Night" comedy show at 11 p.m. starting in April. Shannon Bream is going to move to 12:00.
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 26, 2021, 04:01:24 PM
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 27, 2021, 06:09:57 AM

Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 01, 2021, 06:28:37 PM
Title: Re: Is FOX News fair and balanced?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 08, 2021, 07:28:43 PM
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