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Title: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on July 06, 2010, 04:25:35 PM
anyone been to gibraltar ? whats the cheapest way to get there ? whats there to do there ?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 06, 2010, 04:44:28 PM
Wasn't there, but have heard that people throw up while landing on the short twisted strip.

Go for a boat ride to Morocco.

Go visit the monkeys on "the rock".

The whole place is duty free.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on July 06, 2010, 04:50:25 PM
anyone been to gibraltar ? whats the cheapest way to get there ? whats there to do there ?

 Ok I will take the bait

 why would you be interested in going somewhere you know absolutly nothing about. I understand asking about the cheapest way to get somewhere, but I dont understand asking what is there to do.

 As usually the reason I fly somewhere is either cause there are things I want to do or see there = I know something about what the place has to offer , or Im flying on a cheap tkt to earn Miles. So yes at times I may have in my mind 1 of the 2 questions you asked but I cant ever remember have both of them at the same time, regarding the same Destination

Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on July 06, 2010, 06:33:12 PM
Maybe he wants to ad a "pin" to his travel map. There is something about just going to far places.

 OK but Gibraltar isnt Far, intriguing IMO yes, but Ive heard about it and thats why its on my to see list as is Malta.

 I havent been to many places but I cant remember making a post about a place that I know nothing about and simply asking if I go what is there to do once there

 Had they asked about a minyan or meals for Shabbos or restaurants that would have been 1 thing. But to ask what to do once there is completely something else. For starters either google gib or go to a library or book store and look at a travel book on it
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on July 07, 2010, 09:49:12 AM
Ok I will take the bait

 why would you be interested in going somewhere you know absolutly nothing about. I understand asking about the cheapest way to get somewhere, but I dont understand asking what is there to do.

 As usually the reason I fly somewhere is either cause there are things I want to do or see there = I know something about what the place has to offer , or Im flying on a cheap tkt to earn Miles. So yes at times I may have in my mind 1 of the 2 questions you asked but I cant ever remember have both of them at the same time, regarding the same Destination


well it sounds like your someone thats very calculated in everything they do. ill explain everything but just have a little question whats wrong with the fact that someone decided that they want to go to a place without knowing much just that they heard its interesting and want to go there and are asking for more details.now as to my specific story I'm asking about it cause i have an offer to go there with someone. i know all about seeing the monkeys there etc but i wanted to hear some more ideas.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on July 07, 2010, 09:51:16 AM
OK but Gibraltar isnt Far, intriguing IMO yes, but Ive heard about it and thats why its on my to see list as is Malta.

 I havent been to many places but I cant remember making a post about a place that I know nothing about and simply asking if I go what is there to do once there

 Had they asked about a minyan or meals for Shabbos or restaurants that would have been 1 thing. But to ask what to do once there is completely something else. For starters either google gib or go to a library or book store and look at a travel book on it
i think you should write a list of rules exactly what you're allowed to ask etc. based on how you do it
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on July 07, 2010, 10:41:36 AM
well it sounds like your someone thats very calculated in everything they do. ill explain everything but just have a little question whats wrong with the fact that someone decided that they want to go to a place without knowing much just that they heard its interesting and want to go there and are asking for more details.now as to my specific story I'm asking about it cause i have an offer to go there with someone. i know all about seeing the monkeys there etc but i wanted to hear some more ideas.

 well had you posted in your 1st post what you just posted then my post wouldnt have been made

It seemed that you simply took a dart and threw it at a map and Bingo it landed on or nearest to Gib = why you were going to go there

 Unfortunately all too many kids on here dont spell out why they are asking what they are.Eg there was a person who asked wheres a nice starwood cat4 or below Hotel to go to, I answered The 4 Points in Sydney,AU  they answered back too far away and they want to stay in North Am. So I asked does that include Mex and Canada what about Alaska or Hawaii as they too are far. My point to you and Everyone else is You should Spell out and Specify as much as possible in your 1st post.

 also what might be interesting to me may not be to you and vice versa. So Gib might have some great museums but that doesnt interest you how is anyone to know, why cant people spell out what they are interested in doing
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on July 07, 2010, 10:51:17 AM
i think you should write a list of rules exactly what you're allowed to ask etc. based on how you do it

 no the problem is Common Sense isnt so common

  walk into Barneys and they ask you can I help you and you answer Id like to buy some clothes, so they take you and show you some very expensive dresses, you tell them you dont wear dresses and not looking to spend $10,000 or near that amount on any 1 garment. Well if you knew that from get go why not say so

 No one can read anyones mind , the more a person says in a post the more Help they can get from the other members on here and the better this site will be for Everyone
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 07, 2010, 12:21:24 PM
Ok I will take the bait

 why would you be interested in going somewhere you know absolutly nothing about. I understand asking about the cheapest way to get somewhere, but I dont understand asking what is there to do.

 As usually the reason I fly somewhere is either cause there are things I want to do or see there = I know something about what the place has to offer , or Im flying on a cheap tkt to earn Miles. So yes at times I may have in my mind 1 of the 2 questions you asked but I cant ever remember have both of them at the same time, regarding the same Destination



I hope that you don't take too much offense to this as you are a very valuable resource on this site, but why does every one of your posts need to be a loaded commentary on what you think is wrong with the OP's questions? Why can't you just answer the question or keep it to yourself? Once again I apologize if I am being offensive in any way, shape or form
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on July 07, 2010, 02:28:15 PM
I hope that you don't take too much offense to this as you are a very valuable resource on this site, but why does every one of your posts need to be a loaded commentary on what you think is wrong with the OP's questions? Why can't you just answer the question or keep it to yourself? Once again I apologize if I am being offensive in any way, shape or form

 the only I offense I take is your bias against me , unless you havent read this thread as of yet since no where on it is a post by you saying what you said to me to both aussie & MikeO http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2793.0

 if this site was limited to just Chabadniks or Shomer Shabbos people that might be 1 thing, but since its not and as it grows it will only get worse. I saw how FT was when I 1st joined it back in '99 and how along the way they started to implement things in order to keep the Boards in an orderly fashion, so Im simply trying to prevent this site from having to suffer what FT did many yrs ago, sorry for caring. Its not only aimed at the person who wrote the post but to others who read it as well so that hopefuly when they make a post or start a new thread they wont follow suit.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 08, 2010, 06:58:51 PM
i was there last summer. i spent shabbos in gib as i toured the south of spain. we stayed at the rock hotel, which was our second choice . our first choice, the eliott, was fully booked as pesach krohns group was also there. theres obviously the top of the rock which can be accessed by cable car or taxi. its a beautiful view plus wild monkies running about. my daughter loved it. theres also caves to explore at the top. we then took a boat ride out to see the dolphins. we ate the friday night by the rabbi, after meeting his son on the ft boards. shabbos day we ate with the p. krohn group after the director invited us. there are some shuls which date way back. on sunday we day tripped to tangier.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on July 09, 2010, 05:43:44 AM
i was there last summer. i spent shabbos in gib as i toured the south of spain. we stayed at the rock hotel, which was our second choice . our first choice, the eliott, was fully booked as pesach krohns group was also there. theres obviously the top of the rock which can be accessed by cable car or taxi. its a beautiful view plus wild monkies running about. my daughter loved it. theres also caves to explore at the top. we then took a boat ride out to see the dolphins. we ate the friday night by the rabbi, after meeting his son on the ft boards. shabbos day we ate with the p. krohn group after the director invited us. there are some shuls which date way back. on sunday we day tripped to tangier.
is the elliot hotel nicer then the rock hotel ? i was thiking of staying in the rock
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 10, 2010, 04:40:58 PM
the rock was fine for us. the views were beautiful as well. i believe the elliott is nicer though and you dont have to walk up a pretty big hill on shabbos to get there
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: andrew on July 12, 2010, 09:58:28 AM
I just got a flight to Malaga for 55k CO. When are you planning this trip for?
from where? if i go it would be july23 to 25
how bout you?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on August 04, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
the only I offense I take is your bias against me , unless you havent read this thread as of yet since no where on it is a post by you saying what you said to me to both aussie & MikeO http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2793.0

I have read the posts by Aussie & Mikeo and they are totally trying to get more info in order to HELP. The information they request is in order to have a clearer picture in order to share the right info with Eli.
Your post, on the other hand, is 100% to bash Eli. The only info you wanted to know was simply to satisfy your curiosity. Yes, what if he "simply took a dart and threw it at a map and Bingo it landed on or nearest to Gib"?
He's entitled.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 21, 2013, 10:34:18 PM
Looking into going to Spain (+Morroco) this summer and am trying to sort things out. I would fly to Lisbon for a day and then from there fly to Morocco for a few days. Would then fly to Malaga from Casablanca.

I would land in Malaga on Friday at 340 pm, with Shabbos at 9:15 pm. Would it be worth renting a car and driving to Gibraltar for Shabbos or better to hang out Shabbos in Malaga? Wondering from a timing perspective as well as a better place to be for Shabbos.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 22, 2013, 01:11:25 PM
Looking into going to Spain (+Morroco) this summer and am trying to sort things out. I would fly to Lisbon for a day and then from there fly to Morocco for a few days. Would then fly to Malaga from Casablanca.

I would land in Malaga on Friday at 340 pm, with Shabbos at 9:15 pm. Would it be worth renting a car and driving to Gibraltar for Shabbos or better to hang out Shabbos in Malaga? Wondering from a timing perspective as well as a better place to be for Shabbos.

Malaga to Gibraltar is an hour drive on the highway.  Gib is a great place for Shabbos.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 22, 2013, 10:02:44 PM
Ok so we are going to aim for Gibraltar in that case. Are there places I can buy food for Shabbos? Going with a baby so eating out wont really work for us.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 22, 2013, 10:25:53 PM
Ok so we are going to aim for Gibraltar in that case. Are there places I can buy food for Shabbos? Going with a baby so eating out wont really work for us.

When I was there, there were a couple places that did take out - not sure what's around there now. 
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 23, 2013, 01:52:50 AM
When I was there, there were a couple places that did take out - not sure what's around there now.
Thats good I will look around in that case. Is there anything else to do in the area? Is driving to Madrid via Sevilla and Cordoba a good way to spend a few days? Other option is to fly to Barcelona from AGP near Gibraltar and spend a few days there.

I initially was gonna fly to Barcelona and then drive to Nice but one way rentals are out of control (best I found for 3 days was abt 800)
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 01, 2014, 07:52:04 PM
I'm trying to plan a weekend trip to Gibraltar. I apologize for the inevitable repost(s) here, but it seems like anything anyone writes about Gibraltar somehow gets merged into this massive Spain thread.  >:( I'm looking exclusively for info about Gibraltar, with just as much info as is necessary on Spain (for using Malaga as an entry/exit point), so all this stuff about Barcelona is kinda getting in the way. :P

Gotta burn some UA miles before the deval tomorrow night, so I'm thinking we'll fly via Zurich on Swiss to Malaga, and then drive 1.5 hours to Gibraltar.

Some questions:

1) Where's the best place to stay? I've noticed (rather painfully) that there are no SPG hotels (or any half-decent chain hotels, for that matter), so all my points and statuses won't help me. Where's a nice hotel?
2) How's the driving there? Am I insane to want to drive to/from Malaga? And will it cost me a fortune to park over Shabbos, or is parking free?
3) We would be landing in Malaga at 12:30 PM on Thursday and driving straight to Gibraltar, and then driving back Sunday night to catch a Monday morning flight back to Zurich. Is that enough time to experience the wonders of Gibraltar?
4) What activities/attractions are a must-do/must-see, and given the timeframe above, when would you recommend to do which things?
5) What's the deal with kosher food? I've heard that the rabbi can have you put up by locals for Shabbos meals, but what about the rest of the time - are there places to eat out? Are there places to buy kosher food/snacks, or do we need to schlep stuff from Israel?
6) Finally, anything exciting to do in/around Malaga Sunday evening, as we will be there for our return flight the next morning? Any kosher food options in Malaga? How about hotels - anything comes highly (or even semi-highly) recommended?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 01, 2014, 08:07:34 PM
I'm trying to plan a weekend trip to Gibraltar. I apologize for the inevitable repost(s) here, but it seems like anything anyone writes about Gibraltar somehow gets merged into this massive Spain thread.  >:( I'm looking exclusively for info about Gibraltar, with just as much info as is necessary on Spain (for using Malaga as an entry/exit point), so all this stuff about Barcelona is kinda getting in the way. :P

Gotta burn some UA miles before the deval tomorrow night, so I'm thinking we'll fly via Zurich on Swiss to Malaga, and then drive 1.5 hours to Gibraltar.

Some questions:

1) Where's the best place to stay? I've noticed (rather painfully) that there are no SPG hotels (or any half-decent chain hotels, for that matter), so all my points and statuses won't help me. Where's a nice hotel?
2) How's the driving there? Am I insane to want to drive to/from Malaga? And will it cost me a fortune to park over Shabbos, or is parking free?
3) We would be landing in Malaga at 12:30 PM on Thursday and driving straight to Gibraltar, and then driving back Sunday night to catch a Monday morning flight back to Zurich. Is that enough time to experience the wonders of Gibraltar?
4) What activities/attractions are a must-do/must-see, and given the timeframe above, when would you recommend to do which things?
5) What's the deal with kosher food? I've heard that the rabbi can have you put up by locals for Shabbos meals, but what about the rest of the time - are there places to eat out? Are there places to buy kosher food/snacks, or do we need to schlep stuff from Israel?
6) Finally, anything exciting to do in/around Malaga Sunday evening, as we will be there for our return flight the next morning? Any kosher food options in Malaga? How about hotels - anything comes highly (or even semi-highly) recommended?

Thanks!
1)There are no nice hotels there. When I was there in the summer there was talk about a cruise ship turning into a hotel there but don't know if that ever happened. Your best bet is staying by a family there is a very warm community and you should be able to get your own apartment there
2) Very doable, No, It is possible to park for free but keep in mind you don't want to move around in Gibraltar with a car so a train might be a better option though I do suggest spending a night in Marbella which is between Malaga and Gibraltar.
3) IMO yes
5) yes
6)yes
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 01, 2014, 08:27:36 PM
1)There are no nice hotels there. When I was there in the summer there was talk about a cruise ship turning into a hotel there but don't know if that ever happened. Your best bet is staying by a family there is a very warm community and you should be able to get your own apartment there
2) Very doable, No, It is possible to park for free but keep in mind you don't want to move around in Gibraltar with a car so a train might be a better option though I do suggest spending a night in Marbella which is between Malaga and Gibraltar.
3) IMO yes
5) yes
6)yes

Thanks!

1) Still would prefer a half-decent hotel...
2) There's a train from AGP to GIB?! I didn't see anything about it... And what's up with this Marbella place?
3) Thanks.
4) What happened to #4? :P
5) "Yes" to which part?
6) Can you please elaborate a bit - what is there to do/eat/stay in Malaga?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 01, 2014, 09:15:34 PM
Thanks!

1) Still would prefer a half-decent hotel...
2) There's a train from AGP to GIB?! I didn't see anything about it... And what's up with this Marbella place?
3) Thanks.
4) What happened to #4? :P
5) "Yes" to which part?
6) Can you please elaborate a bit - what is there to do/eat/stay in Malaga?
1) the hotels are not even half decent
2) I believe there is but didn't take it to know. I wonder if vueling (bookable via Iberia 4.5k) has flights from Malaga-Gibraltar
3) you're welcome
4) don't have time right now
5) there are kosher stores and food and the while country is dutyfree
6)I will soon when I answer 4
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 01, 2014, 09:17:21 PM
1) the hotels are not even half decent
2) I believe there is but didn't take it to know. I wonder if vueling (bookable via Iberia 4.5k) has flights from Malaga-Gibraltar
3) you're welcome
4) don't have time right now
5) there are kosher stores and food and the while country is dutyfree
6)I will soon when I answer 4

Thanks. Eagerly awaiting your response. :)
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 02, 2014, 07:30:10 AM
the best place to stay is the O'Callaghan Eliott Hotel, which is close to the jewish community. when i was there, the hotel was sold out due to a jewish tour group so i stayed at the Rock Hotel which is half decent.

the obvious attraction is to take the cable car to the top of the rock where the monkeys are running around (you can also say the bracha of seeing the yam hagodol since from that vantage point you can see where the Mediterranean and atlantic oceans meet) . additionally there is a cave system with stalactites worthwhile to check out.

you should try to see the many shuls which is best to do on shabbos.

we also did a dolphin watching boat tour and be on the lookout for sharks which are sometime spotted as well.

if you have an extra day to burn, i would choose between granada and the alhambra there, or a day trip to tangier, morocco which was cool.

you definitely need a car. the only other option is bus

there is a kosher market,at least in 2009 there was,  but theres a great kosher market in torremolinos on the way to gib with an extensive meat section, but you should find out if its seasonal

Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 02, 2014, 08:32:51 AM
the best place to stay is the O'Callaghan Eliott Hotel, which is close to the jewish community. when i was there, the hotel was sold out due to a jewish tour group so i stayed at the Rock Hotel which is half decent.

the obvious attraction is to take the cable car to the top of the rock where the monkeys are running around (you can also say the bracha of seeing the yam hagodol since from that vantage point you can see where the Mediterranean and atlantic oceans meet) . additionally there is a cave system with stalactites worthwhile to check out.

you should try to see the many shuls which is best to do on shabbos.

we also did a dolphin watching boat tour and be on the lookout for sharks which are sometime spotted as well.

if you have an extra day to burn, i would choose between granada and the alhambra there, or a day trip to tangiers, morocco which was cool.

you definitely need a car. the only other option is bus

there is a kosher market,at least in 2009 there was,  but theres a great kosher market in torremolinos on the way to gib with an extensive meat section, but you should find out if its seasonal
I stayed at O'callaghan... It reminded me of motel 6.... you only say the beracha if you haven't seen either ocean within 30 days
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 02, 2014, 09:01:21 AM
alor
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 02, 2014, 10:10:30 AM
alor
don't sea( :P ) how one can disagree
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 02, 2014, 10:38:45 AM
Thanks, guys.

What would be the cleanest/nicest hotel, even if it's not so close to the Jewish community?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 02, 2014, 10:49:05 AM
don't sea( :P ) how one can disagree
well unless you have your eyes closed the second you arrive in agp, youre bound to see an ocean at some point, so when people say that you should say the brochah from the top of the rock, according to what youre saying, it doesnt seem possible.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 02, 2014, 10:50:16 AM
Thanks, guys.

What would be the cleanest/nicest hotel, even if it's not so close to the Jewish community?
i doubt you will find people who stayed at both. i stayed at the rock and it was clean. although i did hear that the elliot is the hotel of choice for the frum traveller
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 02, 2014, 10:55:01 AM
well unless you have your eyes closed the second you arrive in agp, youre bound to see an ocean at some point, so when people say that you should say the brochah from the top of the rock, according to what youre saying, it doesnt seem possible.
That is what they do. The halacha is that you only make a beracha on the sea if you have not seen it in 30 days
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 02, 2014, 10:58:00 AM
That is what they do. The halacha is that you only make a beracha on the sea if you have not seen it in 30 days
that is what who does? either way its neither here nor there. let each person speak it over with his local o.r.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 02, 2014, 10:59:32 AM
that is what who does? either way its neither here nor there. let each person speak it over with his local o.r.
That is what a few Rabbis told me including the Rabbi in GB
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 03, 2014, 08:41:29 AM
What do people do for phone/data? Is there any sort of prepaid SIM that will be good for both Malaga (Spain) and Gibraltar?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 03, 2014, 10:43:28 AM
What do people do for phone/data? Is there any sort of prepaid SIM that will be good for both Malaga (Spain) and Gibraltar?
we had gotten a prepaid Sim in Barcelona which either at certain places in GB (I still have it if you want it) but we got charged a fortune as they charged a connecting fee (without telling us) so we were constantly running out of minutes
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 03, 2014, 11:53:05 AM
which either at certain places in GB

Huh?!
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 03, 2014, 03:00:39 PM
Huh?!
sorry worked
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on February 03, 2014, 03:07:44 PM
Was just in GIB last shabbos. We stayed in the Elliott. Although it's not really worth the money you'll pay, it's very close to the shuls and kosher places. Check their website for deals- we got a decent rate with wifi included. I did not use a sim card at all while in spain for 8 days, just relied on wifi for what's app and called using vonage app.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on February 03, 2014, 03:09:33 PM
We took the bus from Granada, where we spent the day, to Algeciras. From there, it's a 20 min taxi ride to the GIB border. There are other options for transportation as well. You can pm me for more details.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 03, 2014, 04:04:05 PM
its just so much easier with a car
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on February 03, 2014, 04:05:30 PM
Def easier and very doable. Ask locals about parking in GIB.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on February 03, 2014, 04:34:04 PM
Def easier and very doable. Ask locals about parking in GIB.

Agreed. Driving to GIB was painless and parking wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 03, 2014, 05:55:55 PM
I flew in to gib. Imo it's much easier and much nicer.
It's amazing the views
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 03, 2014, 06:56:31 PM
I flew in to gib. Imo it's much easier and much nicer.
It's amazing the views
who flies there?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on February 03, 2014, 07:01:14 PM
who flies there?
You would have to connect through London.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 03, 2014, 08:12:48 PM
who flies there?
ba, monarch and easy jet
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 03, 2014, 08:29:13 PM
Any interest in a Gibraltar (short) trip report?
Just out of curiosity why is Gibraltar in the Spain thread?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 04, 2014, 12:28:43 AM
Any interest in a Gibraltar (short) trip report?
Just out of curiosity why is Gibraltar in the Spain thread?
because there's not much to do there and usually (if not always) it's the Shabbos part of a Spain trip
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 04, 2014, 12:47:15 AM
because there's not much to do there and usually (if not always) it's the Shabbos part of a Spain trip
For me it was a trip only for Shabbath. (didn't touch Spain)
It was absolutely gorgeous
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 04, 2014, 03:38:24 AM
Any interest in a Gibraltar (short) trip report?

Yes, please! Very much!

Just out of curiosity why is Gibraltar in the Spain thread?

Was wondering the same, until I looked at a map:

(http://www.teara.govt.nz/files/m890enz.gif)

Gibraltar is that teeny tiny dot attached to the bottom of gigantic Spain. Should be quite understandable why people may consider it "batul" to Spain when planning a trip. :P
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 04, 2014, 09:02:03 AM
Thank you!
It has zero to do with Spain.
It's a British colony
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 04, 2014, 09:03:39 AM
Thank you!
It has zero to do with Spain.
It's a British colony
no comment
#stuckupbrit :P
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 04, 2014, 09:16:53 AM
Just out of curiosity why is Gibraltar in the Spain thread?
ill give you 3 guesses...
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 04, 2014, 11:09:12 AM
# proudbrit :P
FTFY :P
I will try to write a tr soon
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 06, 2014, 12:55:30 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/06/une7asus.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/06/nypujabu.jpg)Gibraltar trip report. p1.
I was looking to get away for a weekend to somewhere sunny and different.
I didn't have time for a long trip so after deciding on Europe it was basically between verona, malga and Gibraltar.
Gibraltar won (probably because of the English connection ;), and I have been there once before)
Going to the airport with uber (thanks dan)
Thursday night we flew out with AA jfk to lhr on the new (not so new to me) AA 77w in j
Arrived in lhr 8am I davened in the ba lounge in t3 and had a good breakfast served by them.
Took the ba flight from LHR to GIB landing in Gibraltar 2pm Friday.
Shabbath was 6:30pm so it wasn't a problem bh.
Checked in to the Rock hotel and unpacked the box of beautifully prepared food Pomegranate and setup the hotplate in the room for Shabbath.
To my surprise ups delivered a huge package for me from a friend in London with cookies, chocolate and a few bottles of scotch :).
We then walked down hill to the city centre, bumped into a fellow jew I asked him where is the shul so he explained to me that he is picking up his grandchildren from school now (interesting the Jewish school on Friday finished at 4pm) there was a grocery across the street selling kosher food meat, dairy, nosh, baked goods and more still open.
We walked back to the hotel really impressed and excited to see a beautiful and warm Jewish community in such a beautiful city.
More to follow
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on February 06, 2014, 11:16:31 AM
Here are some pics to get you excited...
You can see the mountains of Morocco on the left side of the last picture.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 10, 2014, 08:00:51 PM
So we set up the food on a hot plate in the room.
And decided to split up the davening each tefilla in a different shul, so we met up with this nice guy who walked with us from the centre to the shaar hashamyim shul for Friday night, it was absolutely gorgeous the outside and the inside of the shul, and a very nice davening.
Shabbath morning we went to daven in nefutzot yehuda the oldest shul in Gibraltar 350 year's old, and that's the main shul where they house a kollel and have activities going on, as well a beautiful shul with old moldings and nice people.
We where invited by numerous people to eat with them the seuda but as we had already everything setup we declined.
After climbing back to the hotel and after finishing the seuda we walked to the beach (it wasn't the nicest day) clean and airy, after walking around we bumped into a huge boat docking by the Marine, after finding someone to ask about it, he explained that this boat is a new hotel scheduled to open up end of March (sounds like a beautiful hotel and pricey too) we walked then to mincha and mariv to the abudarham shul, a smaller shul but vibrant and a young crowd.
We met there the former mayor of Gibraltar Solomon levy who is a great person with a beautiful personality, who after mariv took us into his office and gave us a signed copy of his biography (a nice book). We walked back to the hotel and it was already late in the evening so we ended up hanging out in the hotel
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 14, 2014, 02:12:43 PM
Sunday morning we woke up to a beautiful day sun shining,
I walked to daven there are only 2 minyanim either vasikin or 830 it was packed.
After that I had a tour guide that a local recommended that took us on a 4 hour tour around Gibraltar and up to the rock.
We started out in Europe point seeing the stunning views to Africa Morocco and then on to the caves and apes up the rock.
He took us to the jew gate where right next to it is a hidden cemetery that is about 350 year's old.
It was absolutely gorgeous, history and sightseeing mixed together with the fun of the monkeys so close
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 14, 2014, 02:15:04 PM
Just to add some more pictures (including a picture that imo is a amazing snap)
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 14, 2014, 02:20:11 PM
After finishing the tour (he charged me 60 gbp an hour name Carl Mesilio 01135057406000 you can check him up on trip advisor) he took us to the airport where we enjoyed the ba lounge with a terrace on to the runway with nice view's, stopped over in London and then had lunch in the ba lounge in t3 and took the AA flight back to NYC Sunday evening
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 14, 2014, 02:43:33 PM
If anyone has any other questions please feel free to ask!
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on February 20, 2014, 11:21:31 PM
^^If I had 4 days to spend, Wednesday - Shabbos, I would spend the latter two in GIB. What would you suggest for the first two days? I'd be flying from NY.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 20, 2014, 11:50:57 PM
^^If I had 4 days to spend, Wednesday - Shabbos, I would spend the latter two in GIB. What would you suggest for the first two days? I'd be flying from NY.
Probably Malaga on the beach
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 21, 2014, 12:50:58 AM
^^If I had 4 days to spend, Wednesday - Shabbos, I would spend the latter two in GIB. What would you suggest for the first two days? I'd be flying from NY.
tangiers, granada
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 21, 2014, 12:56:33 AM
tangiers
Morocco now?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 21, 2014, 01:17:45 AM
Anyone did the canary Isles?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 21, 2014, 01:35:33 AM
Morocco now?
im sorry, i dont understand your question
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 21, 2014, 01:46:52 AM
im sorry, i dont understand your question
Is it safe to travel there?
I was scared
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 21, 2014, 01:57:33 AM
Is it safe to travel there?
Tangier is safe
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 21, 2014, 07:35:10 AM
Is it safe to travel there?
I was scared
i felt safe
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on February 21, 2014, 07:55:33 AM

tangiers, granada

Not Spain?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 26, 2014, 10:23:37 AM
Thanks for the ideas guys, I'm getting more and more into Spain. :)

If I'm in GIB for Shabbos and want to leave Sunday and get to Madrid to catch my next flight to Italy, how do I best go GIB-MAD?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 26, 2014, 10:36:29 AM
Probably take a flight from Malaga, which would be quickest. I'm not sure of the train/bus options.
Google Maps says it's a 1.5 hour drive from Malaga and like 4 hour bus ride. Is it possible to rent a car in GIB and return it in Malaga?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on March 26, 2014, 11:15:15 AM
Google Maps says it's a 1.5 hour drive from Malaga and like 4 hour bus ride. Is it possible to rent a car in GIB and return it in Malaga?
Don't know off hand. I'm sure you can ask a car rental agency that's located in GIB
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on March 26, 2014, 11:16:15 AM
Nice TR. Wasn't worth it to rent a car between all the trains/buses/driver that you took?
It would have been but no one felt comfort driving in a foreign country.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on March 26, 2014, 11:34:37 AM
It would have been but no one felt comfort driving in a foreign country.
Also, we were 3 people with luggage so we needed a bigger car than is standard in Europe,  we don't drive stick and needed a 1 way rental,  all of which drove up the cost so we decided against it.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on March 26, 2014, 11:37:42 AM
Thanks for the ideas guys, I'm getting more and more into Spain. :)

If I'm in GIB for Shabbos and want to leave Sunday and get to Madrid to catch my next flight to Italy, how do I best go GIB-MAD?
I know it's tempting to try to fit in as many places as possible when you have the chance but I did a similar trip several years back and it was exhausting.  There were many things that we did not get to see and I feel we sacrificed some of the experience just so we could check off more places on the list.
Then again, it's all personal preference.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 26, 2014, 01:36:27 PM
In terms of places to stay in Seville, a great place where we stayed was Las Casas de la Juderia. It was right in the middle of the old town and we could walk anywhere.

We also stayed at the Elliott in GIB. Driving from GIB to AGP is a really beautiful drive and I think it actually took us less than an hour when we did it.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 26, 2014, 02:02:34 PM
In terms of places to stay in Seville, a great place where we stayed was Las Casas de la Juderia. It was right in the middle of the old town and we could walk anywhere.

We also stayed at the Elliott in GIB. Driving from GIB to AGP is a really beautiful drive and I think it actually took us less than an hour when we did it.
Thanks for the suggestion where to stay!

Turns out newest rep says OWE does exist still but pointed out all the flaws in my reservation why it wouldn't work. I forgot about those issues and obviously the previous rep didn't realize either. Now that we have it better organized, we realized I was passing through MAD too many times. You can only have 1 stopover and 2 connections within a city. Staying in MAD for 2 days to see MAD and Toledo counts as my stopover. Going then to BCN is fine. Then BCN-MAD-SVQ (no direct availability BCN-SVQ) is 1 connection and getting out of Spain requires leaving from MAD, so when I'm done I have to use my 2nd MAD connection to get out. I could obviously pick between BCN-MAD-SVQ and BCN-MAD-AGP, but Seville sounds better from people's comments. Will then have to rent a car SVQ-GIB and return to SVQ after Shabbos in GIB to catch SVQ-MAD-XXX.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 26, 2014, 02:06:21 PM
Thanks for the suggestion where to stay!

Turns out newest rep says OWE does exist still but pointed out all the flaws in my reservation why it wouldn't work. I forgot about those issues and obviously the previous rep didn't realize either. Now that we have it better organized, we realized I was passing through MAD too many times. You can only have 1 stopover and 2 connections within a city. Staying in MAD for 2 days to see MAD and Toledo counts as my stopover. Going then to BCN is fine. Then BCN-MAD-SVQ (no direct availability BCN-SVQ) is 1 connection and getting out of Spain requires leaving from MAD, so when I'm done I have to use my 2nd MAD connection to get out. I could obviously pick between BCN-MAD-SVQ and BCN-MAD-AGP, but Seville sounds better from people's comments. Will then have to rent a car SVQ-GIB and return to SVQ after Shabbos in GIB to catch SVQ-MAD-XXX.

I drove from SVQ to GIB and it was a very nice drive. Why can't you go from AGP-XXX without passing through MAD again? Does IB not offer any flights directly out of the country from AGP?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 26, 2014, 02:09:27 PM
I drove from SVQ to GIB and it was a very nice drive. Why can't you go from AGP-XXX without passing through MAD again? Does IB not offer any flights directly out of the country from AGP?
Wow, so you've been to GIB a few times? IB may have flights, but they limit which flights can be booked through AA/OW.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 26, 2014, 02:10:45 PM
Wow, so you've been to GIB a few times? IB may have flights, but they limit which flights can be booked through AA/OW.

No, it was the same trip.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 26, 2014, 02:19:21 PM
No, it was the same trip.
Oo got that. Drove SVQ-GIB and GIB-AGP. Rental cars are going to be stick shift, right?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 26, 2014, 02:30:33 PM
Oo got that. Drove SVQ-GIB and GIB-AGP. Rental cars are going to be stick shift, right?

Correct, paid for Shabbos as a rental so that I could get to AGP on Sunday.

I got an Auto, but definitely paid more for it.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 26, 2014, 02:35:22 PM
Correct, paid for Shabbos as a rental so that I could get to AGP on Sunday.

I got an Auto, but definitely paid more for it.

Oh okay good, bc I don't know how to drive stick lol. I would have to do the same paying for Shabbos. Any recollection where you rented from?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 26, 2014, 02:40:03 PM
Oh okay good, bc I don't know how to drive stick lol. I would have to do the same paying for Shabbos. Any recollection where you rented from?

I think Avis. They gave me the best deal at the time. It was a while ago now though, so things could have definitely changed.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 26, 2014, 02:43:34 PM
I think Avis. They gave me the best deal at the time. It was a while ago now though, so things could have definitely changed.
Ah, okay. Cool thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on March 30, 2014, 11:07:45 AM
Why wouldn't they  ???
Because most of the flights are through Vueling who partner with IB and not OW
I think Avis. They gave me the best deal at the time. It was a while ago now though, so things could have definitely changed.
I rented from Sixt who gave me the best deal but I can get you the best rate available at Hertz
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 30, 2014, 11:28:45 AM
I rented from Sixt who gave me the best deal but I can get you the best rate available at Hertz

Thanks! You can get good rates just in Spain or throughout Europe?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on March 31, 2014, 02:48:59 AM
Thanks! You can get good rates just in Spain or throughout Europe?
all over Europe just please don't bother me for another 10 days ;)
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 28, 2014, 02:49:28 PM
Elliot's website says "Best Rate Guarantee". Any idea what that means?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 29, 2014, 10:33:08 AM
Booked the Eliott for $165 (incl. $4 cc fee). For those that stayed there, how did you take care of late checkout on Shabbos? Did you call beforehand, tell them when you arrived?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on April 29, 2014, 10:43:55 AM
Elliot's website says "Best Rate Guarantee". Any idea what that means?

Probably that you won't get a cheaper rate (for their hotel) elsewhere.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on April 29, 2014, 10:52:19 AM
Elliot's website says "Best Rate Guarantee". Any idea what that means?
PUTPAC
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 29, 2014, 11:23:24 AM
PUTPAC
Probably that you won't get a cheaper rate (for their hotel) elsewhere.
Which is not true. lol
Wasn't about to call GIB, but I saw that they update their FB page.
So I messaged them,
"How does your Best Rate Guarantee work? If I find a cheaper rate on a different website, what's the policy?"
Response:
"Hi @Yehuda, you can book our rates on what ever website you wish."

Fantastic. lol
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on April 29, 2014, 11:29:11 AM
Which is not true. lol
Wasn't about to call GIB, but I saw that they update their FB page.
So I messaged them,
"How does your Best Rate Guarantee work? If I find a cheaper rate on a different website, what's the policy?"
Response:
"Hi @Yehuda, you can book our rates on what ever website you wish."

Fantastic. lol
Lol. did you message the actuall hotel or the group Its part of.
 info@ocallaghanhotels.com
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 29, 2014, 11:56:03 AM
Lol. did you message the actuall hotel or the group Its part of.
 info@ocallaghanhotels.com
Actual hotel. Couldn't find any information about the group, but apparently you did. Thanks!
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on April 29, 2014, 12:07:43 PM
Actual hotel. Couldn't find any information about the group, but apparently you did. Thanks!
no prob. Report back
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 29, 2014, 01:41:40 PM
Woa! I was just looking at the UR mall and the Elliot is bookable on there for just 16K!
Time to cancel my paid reservation, although I think it's a $15 cancellation fee.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on April 29, 2014, 03:41:58 PM
Woa! I was just looking at the UR mall and the Elliot is bookable on there for just 16K!
Time to cancel my paid reservation, although I think it's a $15 cancellation fee.
how much was the paid?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 29, 2014, 03:49:22 PM
how much was the paid?
Yeah, just realized. Paid $165. And 16K UR @ 1.6 = $256 meaning paid makes more sense.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SOS on April 29, 2014, 03:53:54 PM
and with the paid you might find a brg...
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 29, 2014, 03:56:01 PM
and with the paid you might find a brg...
See above. No idea what their "BRG" means as the $165 is a lower rate found on a competing site.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SOS on April 29, 2014, 03:59:29 PM
See above. No idea what their "BRG" means as the $165 is a lower rate found on a competing site.

i thought you still didn't contact the hotel group..

no prob. Report back
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 29, 2014, 04:00:24 PM
i thought you still didn't contact the hotel group..
I emailed them, waiting for response. But I booked the lower price just in case they say BRG means nothing and didn't want to miss out on the price.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 06, 2014, 07:51:36 PM
1) Update: hotel never got back to me. BRG must just something they put on their site to impress you.

2) Anyone know info about the Royal Palace? How much did it cost to go in? Long lines? How long did it take?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on May 07, 2014, 05:32:23 AM
Just be warned it's a crappy hotel....... Not that there are any better options in GIB.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 07, 2014, 07:40:13 AM
Just be warned it's a crappy hotel....... Not that there are any better options in GIB.
Yes, I've been warned about that, and like you said, there's nothing better.

Was hoping someone had info about the Royal Palace?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on May 07, 2014, 02:38:45 PM
Yes, I've been warned about that, and like you said, there's nothing better.

Was hoping someone had info about the Royal Palace?
IINM It is 15 EUR I got the student discount at 6/7 EUR just showed them my "student ID" (my Israeli student visa not much lines when we were there very nice experience took like 3 hours
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 07, 2014, 02:48:13 PM
IINM It is 15 EUR I got the student discount at 6/7 EUR just showed them my "student ID" (my Israeli student visa not much lines when we were there very nice experience took like 3 hours
Thanks! Did you have a tour guide? Or just walked through it yourself?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on May 20, 2014, 04:49:12 PM
If anyone has any other questions please feel free to ask!

Also, can you describe the hotel in GIB ?
Nice ? Any Shabbos issues ?
Points or Cash ?

thanks
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on May 20, 2014, 04:52:43 PM
I think u would have to fly from Malaga to tlv

thanks for the quick reply.
looking for the shortest flight.
how would you get from GIB to Malaga ? train ? any idea of the travel time ?

Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on May 21, 2014, 09:24:05 PM
What's the best way to book the Elliot at GIB?  Direct booking appears cheapest but is non-refundable.  Chase rewards gives less value per point, but is it refundable?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 21, 2014, 09:50:54 PM
What's the best way to book the Elliot at GIB?  Direct booking appears cheapest but is non-refundable.  Chase rewards gives less value per point, but is it refundable?
I saw it on Amoma for like $30 cheaper than direct booking. Just checkout Wego and HotelsCombined to see what site has it the cheapest.
Not sure if UR is refundable, but yes it is less value. Wanted bragging rights that every night for 33 nights was in a free hotel, so I used my points.  ::)
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on June 10, 2014, 02:30:07 PM
Trying to Book flights out of GIB or AGP back to EWR. Business/First with BA is around 75/85K Avios.
Any Cheaper way to go ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on June 29, 2014, 10:05:34 PM
What do you guys do for currency exchange in Spain? Bank ATMs?

What about in GIB?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 30, 2014, 01:17:23 AM
What do you guys do for currency exchange in Spain? Bank ATMs?

What about in GIB?
Open a bank acct with no fees and that refunds any fees from the ATM (like a TD acct) and then only take out of ATMs.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on July 08, 2014, 10:02:10 AM
I booked my trip for the end of this month. Two days in Torrremolinos (Malaga) and Friday - Shabbos in GIB. I was going to rent a car for the drive to the GIB border but it appears that a taxi is cheaper than a rental with automatic transmission.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 08, 2014, 11:11:58 AM
I booked my trip for the end of this month. Two days in Torrremolinos (Malaga) and Friday - Shabbos in GIB. I was going to rent a car for the drive to the GIB border but it appears that a taxi is cheaper than a rental with automatic transmission.
Could be. What are you seeing taxi rates for?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on July 08, 2014, 11:14:57 AM

Could be. What are you seeing taxi rates for?

Www.numbeo.com. 118eur
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on July 08, 2014, 11:19:14 AM
I booked my trip for the end of this month. Two days in Torrremolinos (Malaga) and Friday - Shabbos in GIB. I was going to rent a car for the drive to the GIB border but it appears that a taxi is cheaper than a rental with automatic transmission.
What are your dates?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 08, 2014, 11:25:33 AM
Www.numbeo.com. 118eur
Each way? My rental from SVQ-GIB-SVQ for 3 days was about 165euro bc I'm underage and gas/tolls came out to 53. A bit cheaper to rent acc to these numbers. Haven't gotten to my TR yet, but once we crossed the border, driving was a nightmare. You may enjoy a taxi much more.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on July 08, 2014, 11:31:18 AM

Each way? My rental from SVQ-GIB-SVQ for 3 days was about 165euro bc I'm underage and gas/tolls came out to 53. A bit cheaper to rent acc to these numbers. Haven't gotten to my TR yet, but once we crossed the border, driving was a nightmare. You may enjoy a taxi much more.

Where did you rent from? Stick or automatic?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 08, 2014, 11:31:57 AM
Where did you rent from? Stick or automatic?
SamKey (Hertz), automatic
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on July 08, 2014, 11:33:58 AM

SamKey (Hertz), automatic

But I would be picking up at AGP and drop off at La Linea.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 08, 2014, 11:40:21 AM
But I would be picking up at AGP and drop off at La Linea.
Okay nu, talk to him and get a quote and then decide.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on July 08, 2014, 12:42:32 PM

Okay nu, talk to him and get a quote and then decide.

About 180 EUR for me. Not underage.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on July 08, 2014, 01:05:38 PM
I did it a long time ago, but I picked up a car in Seville,, drove to GIB and dropped off at AGP. Unfortunately, it was a long time ago so I don't remember pricing at all. I can tell you that driving was fine and the views along the coast between GIB and AGP were beautiful.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 08, 2014, 01:22:01 PM
About 180 EUR for me. Not underage.
Okay and estimate 50-80 for gas and tolls and parking and then decide.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on July 08, 2014, 01:54:41 PM
Okay and estimate 50-80 for gas and tolls and parking and then decide.
It's an Electric
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on July 20, 2014, 11:34:47 AM
On my flight home (GIB-LHR-JFK) I would like my bags tagged in a way so that I don't have to pick them up for my connecting flight at LHR.  Problem is the flight from GIB is British Airways while the 2nd leg is Delta.  Are they able to accomodate such a request?

TIA

Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on July 20, 2014, 12:27:16 PM
On my flight home (GIB-LHR-JFK) I would like my bags tagged in a way so that I don't have to pick them up for my connecting flight at LHR.  Problem is the flight from GIB is British Airways while the 2nd leg is Delta.  Are they able to accomodate such a request?

TIA
delta and ba have a interline agreement so if the agent is knowledge enough it could be done
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on July 20, 2014, 05:57:20 PM
delta and ba have a interline agreement so if the agent is knowledge enough it could be done

I hope you are correct. I have read elsewhere BA does not interline on separate tickets, other than with its Oneworld alliance partners.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on July 20, 2014, 07:14:43 PM
I hope you are correct. I have read elsewhere BA does not interline on separate tickets, other than with its Oneworld alliance partners.
why don't you call them?
I was searching for you and couldn't come up with a correct answer
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on July 27, 2014, 05:58:26 AM

why don't you call them?
I was searching for you and couldn't come up with a correct answer

The answer was "no."
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on July 27, 2014, 02:40:19 PM
Can you book to GIB with AA? trying to book TLV-LHR-GIB, But it dosent give me, why?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 27, 2014, 04:24:21 PM
Can you book to GIB with AA? trying to book TLV-LHR-GIB, But it dosent give me, why?
I don't see why not. You're looking for BA? Or LY for the first leg? You have to call up to book LY.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on July 28, 2014, 07:24:25 AM
I don't see why not. You're looking for BA? Or LY for the first leg? You have to call up to book LY.
Well I also dont see why not, But it does not search to GIB, tried even just from LON-GIB, it dosent give me results
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 28, 2014, 07:30:31 AM
Well I also dont see why not, But it does not search to GIB, tried even just from LON-GIB, it dosent give me results
Weird PUTPAC. It also could be that they can't. I know AA can't book certain IB and BA routes. Maybe this is one of them.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 28, 2014, 10:37:53 PM
Thread split (thanks JJ)
Spain can be found here: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=850.0

RTM any posts that you feel are in the wrong thread.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on July 28, 2014, 10:47:08 PM
Thread split (thanks JJ)
Spain can be found here: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=850.0

RTM any posts that you feel are in the wrong thread.
finally!
I was always arguing that if put together with another country it should be with the UK :P
Time for a Portugal thread?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 28, 2014, 11:02:09 PM
Thread split (thanks JJ)
Spain can be found here: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=850.0

RTM any posts that you feel are in the wrong thread.
Wow, very impressive JJ. Been a big day for the forums.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on July 28, 2014, 11:22:54 PM
Weird PUTPAC. It also could be that they can't. I know AA can't book certain IB and BA routes. Maybe this is one of them.
the route from LHR to GIB I have booked with aa,
But maybe the combination of tlv lhr gib they can't for some reason?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 28, 2014, 11:25:58 PM
Time for a Portugal thread?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=35995
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 29, 2014, 02:36:18 AM
I don't see why not. You're looking for BA? Or LY for the first leg? You have to call up to book LY.

LY probably wouldn't work, as AA is very into the whole "published routing" thing.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 29, 2014, 02:37:01 AM
Been a big day for the forums.

Wow, quite the pot I've stirred... :o
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 29, 2014, 10:24:25 AM
Wow, quite the pot I've stirred... :o
Good job :)
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: ethana on January 12, 2015, 09:16:30 AM
1)Can anyone recommend a tour guide for GIB? (do you need one?)
2) Is there a list of kosher restaurants? Are they any good?
Will be driving from Seville for the day.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on January 12, 2015, 11:57:05 AM
1)Can anyone recommend a tour guide for GIB? (do you need one?)
2) Is there a list of kosher restaurants? Are they any good?
Will be driving from Seville for the day.
There's kosher food but not really restaurant-material IINM
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 12, 2015, 12:05:39 PM
1)Can anyone recommend a tour guide for GIB? (do you need one?)
2) Is there a list of kosher restaurants? Are they any good?
Will be driving from Seville for the day.
I walked into 1 restaurant that Google found as "kosher" and the guy behind the counter was like, "Well, let's just say we don't have any certification." Nice of him not to trick me.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: ethana on January 12, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
Care to share?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 12, 2015, 12:19:25 PM
Care to share?
Sorry I meant to say that I don't remember what it was called.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on January 12, 2015, 04:56:38 PM
1)Can anyone recommend a tour guide for GIB? (do you need one?)
2) Is there a list of kosher restaurants? Are they any good?
Will be driving from Seville for the day.
1. we did not use a tour guide just the map from the hotel. the rock, the marina, the jewish cemetary ( did not visit) , the shuls.
2. http://www.jewishgibraltar.com/restaurant.php 2 listed. i went to tamid. they dont take CC. food was ok if you really need it but not worth the price. either use the deli or the bakery. just prepare for sticker shock at the conversion rate unless you're using Euros.
also, super friendly people. would definitely recommend staying for shabbos. you can email the "board" to have someone host you. they might take a while to get back to you so you should call.
drive from Seville is great. look for windfarms. very cool. after shabbos we drove up the "costa del sol" to Granada. beautiful.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 13, 2015, 11:50:05 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/abagg/watch-this-monkey-steal-and-eat-a-sandwich-right-out-of-a-to?bffbvid&utm_term=4ldqpj5#.bny0Z2Zg7 Amazing!
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on January 14, 2015, 02:15:12 AM
1)Can anyone recommend a tour guide for GIB? (do you need one?)

I took a tour guide and he was great.
You don't need one specifically if you have a car, but be prepared to climb up the rock with your car
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 14, 2015, 05:22:31 AM
I took a tour guide and he was great.
You don't need one specifically if you have a car, but be prepared to climb up the rock with your car
why not just take the cable car up
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 14, 2015, 05:38:00 AM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/abagg/watch-this-monkey-steal-and-eat-a-sandwich-right-out-of-a-to?bffbvid&utm_term=4ldqpj5#.bny0Z2Zg7 Amazing!

Ha! I experienced that first-hand, although in my case two of them grabbed the knapsack off my back and started emptying it. Lesson learned - if you take a bag or knapsack, hold or wear it in front of you - they don't attempt to steal that way.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7528/15658194773_ffbf8346dd.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pREkMp)
Ape eating our food.

why not just take the cable car up

+1. There's a parking lot at the base.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 14, 2015, 08:30:47 AM
Take a tour with a cab.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 14, 2015, 08:34:12 AM
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/14/c71a56f873789069dc8eaa87de350efb.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/14/65cd5d2509c5acfdf8e77e0f45db66df.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/14/509fddec1c120a9fb16f3260bffaa0e7.jpg)
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: ethana on January 14, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
I took a tour guide and he was great.
You don't need one specifically if you have a car, but be prepared to climb up the rock with your car
Who was the guide? do you have contact info?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 14, 2015, 09:03:15 AM
one swiped our kids colorful book, took a bite out and threw it back

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7527/16092852259_078b645426_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on January 14, 2015, 09:03:19 AM
why not just take the cable car up
You won't be able to cover some interesting spots on the rock.
Ex. The old Jewish cemetery and many more.


Who was the guide? do you have contact info?
I will try to find his card.
I remember that on his business card he lists TripAdvisor so he probably can be looked up there
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 14, 2015, 09:22:25 AM
Ex. The old Jewish cemetery and many more.
whats interesting there?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on January 14, 2015, 10:59:32 AM
whats interesting there?
the history of it!
I guess a matter of taste!
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 14, 2015, 06:19:46 PM
the history of it!
I guess a matter of taste!
im not trying to judge, but you find a random cemetery to be interesting as long as it's old?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on January 14, 2015, 08:11:46 PM
im not trying to judge, but you find a random cemetery to be interesting as long as it's old?
Not at all!
It's the history behind it that I was fascinated.
I enjoyed seeing the remote location where people carried the deceased by hand up the rock etc.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 14, 2015, 08:51:11 PM

Not at all!
It's the history behind it that I was fascinated.
I enjoyed seeing the remote location where people carried the deceased by hand up the rock etc.

+1
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 14, 2015, 10:05:10 PM
one swiped our kids colorful book, took a bite out and threw it back

Lol :)
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on January 14, 2015, 10:18:57 PM
1)Can anyone recommend a tour guide for GIB? (do you need one?)
I found the guy who we used.
His first name is Carl, he was fabulous.
http://www.rocktoursgibraltar.com
Ps he wasn't cheap, nor did he accept points :P
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: amx on February 22, 2015, 07:31:41 AM
Anyone know of anybody that does private transfers between malaga and gib? I dont really wanna take public transportation being that im gonna be with kids and a lot of luggage. I also dont wanna deal with renting a car. TIA
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 22, 2015, 12:17:37 PM
I also dont wanna deal with renting a car. TIA
not such a big deal
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: amx on February 22, 2015, 01:44:57 PM
I dont drive stick and the price for a manual is much higher, to rent it from thu- sun I would assume is about the same as taking a cab/private transfer.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on February 22, 2015, 02:45:14 PM
Anyone know of anybody that does private transfers between malaga and gib? I dont really wanna take public transportation being that im gonna be with kids and a lot of luggage. I also dont wanna deal with renting a car. TIA

I once did research into doing this, the hotel seemed able to arrange it. Cant tell you if it was cost efficient
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on February 22, 2015, 03:35:42 PM

Anyone know of anybody that does private transfers between malaga and gib? I dont really wanna take public transportation being that im gonna be with kids and a lot of luggage. I also dont wanna deal with renting a car. TIA

There are taxis everywhere. I did it but pretty sure I overpaid.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on February 22, 2015, 04:16:17 PM
What is about the price for a taxi from Malaga to Gib?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: amx on February 28, 2015, 02:11:59 PM
Do you people recommend we do the rock ourselves or take a tour- guide up there?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on February 28, 2015, 08:24:50 PM

Do you people recommend we do the rock ourselves or take a tour- guide up there?

I did the tour and was pleased.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 04, 2015, 12:00:51 AM
Assuming that we just want to do the Rock ourselves, has anyone here gone down through the Nature Preserve and stopped at the various sites (like the Apes Den and St. Michael's cave) on the way down? About how long does it take.

Also, any update on the kosher situation in GIB? I know @Yehuda tried to eat at the "not really kosher" place from Google, but besides that, where's the best place to pick up lunch on Friday? We'll be coming from SVQ.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on May 04, 2015, 01:26:19 AM
If memory serves me right it should take around 3 to 4 hours (I took a tour guide)
The kosher cafe wasn't open until late when I was there Friday, but the kosher grocery was open very late in the afternoon. If that helps
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 04, 2015, 01:32:17 AM
If memory serves me right it should take around 3 to 4 hours (I took a tour guide)
The kosher cafe wasn't open until late when I was there Friday, but the kosher grocery was open very late in the afternoon. If that helps
Thanks. Do you remember how much you paid for the tour?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on May 04, 2015, 01:40:37 AM
Thanks. Do you remember how much you paid for the tour?
I paid a lot around 400 pounds! Including tip. But I had him from the morning he picked me up from the hotel and dropped me of at the airport, and I would probably take him again.
I mention his name up the thread
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on May 04, 2015, 02:42:54 PM
Assuming that we just want to do the Rock ourselves, has anyone here gone down through the Nature Preserve and stopped at the various sites (like the Apes Den and St. Michael's cave) on the way down? About how long does it take.

Also, any update on the kosher situation in GIB? I know @Yehuda tried to eat at the "not really kosher" place from Google, but besides that, where's the best place to pick up lunch on Friday? We'll be coming from SVQ.
We did the rock ourselves. Cable car up. Walk down.  Took about 4 hours to get down at a very leisurely pace stopping at the den and the cave. Cave is very cool. Better be in good shape too. My legs were killing me for 2 days after the walk down.
The bakery and the milchig place might be the only places open Friday. bakery has since moved not sure where. I think to where the milchig place is or closer to the main streets. Easier to email them to find out. Just they take a while to geT back to you. All in all it's an amazing place especially if you get to eat by a local family for shabbos.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yuey on July 09, 2015, 12:52:21 PM
Has anyone stayed in the Sunborn Gibralter? It apparently a cruise ship hotel and they claim to be 5 stars. I'm going for Shabbos in mid August and I'm on the fence between the Sunborn and the Eliott. (The Eliott has not received the best reviews on either the GIB or Spain forums).
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 09, 2015, 02:12:11 PM
Has anyone stayed in the Sunborn Gibralter? It apparently a cruise ship hotel and they claim to be 5 stars. I'm going for Shabbos in mid August and I'm on the fence between the Sunborn and the Eliott. (The Eliott has not received the best reviews on either the GIB or Spain forums).
I've seen the Sunborn, but have not been inside. Not sure if there are issues with getting on/off the boat on Shabbos - ask your Rav.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on July 09, 2015, 08:52:44 PM
Has anyone stayed in the Sunborn Gibralter? It apparently a cruise ship hotel and they claim to be 5 stars. I'm going for Shabbos in mid August and I'm on the fence between the Sunborn and the Eliott. (The Eliott has not received the best reviews on either the GIB or Spain forums).
I would definitely go with sunborn
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on July 09, 2015, 08:55:04 PM
Ive heard the sunborn is cool. A cabin feel.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 10, 2015, 01:48:43 AM
Ive heard the sunborn is cool. A cabin feel.
Maybe not the best idea if you get sea sick. Also it's outside of the eruv.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on July 10, 2015, 04:14:51 PM
I was on the sunborn and it was very cool. However it can get very noisy due to the casino and the local nightlife and people book parties in your the ballrooms. Personally I thought being closer in town and seeing shabbos locally coming out of Shul was a highlight. It's only a 10 maybe 20 minute walk from the main town streets near shuls etc..


Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yuey on August 18, 2015, 05:24:33 PM
Maybe not the best idea if you get sea sick. Also it's outside of the eruv.

We just got back from our Spain/Gibraltar trip and we had a great experience at the Sunborn. We didn't experience any sea sickness as the ship was moored (GIB paid 30 Million Pounds for the mooring) and it does not move at all. In terms of the Eruv, someone from GIB called the Rabbi for us and he said that Ocean Village including the Sunborn is currently part of the Eruv.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 18, 2015, 05:27:57 PM
We just got back from our Spain/Gibraltar trip and we had a great experience at the Sunborn. We didn't experience any sea sickness as the ship was moored (GIB paid 30 Million Pounds for the mooring) and it does not move at all. In terms of the Eruv, someone from GIB called the Rabbi for us and he said that Ocean Village including the Sunborn is currently part of the Eruv.
Glad to hear you didn't get sea sick. We didn't even visit the Sunborn, as it was so hot and humid we had to stop out shabbos walk at the northern wall. I also wasn't aware it was included in the eruv, but those are both good things to know. Did you want to add them to the wiki?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on August 23, 2015, 04:22:30 PM
Now the real question is how to get the Sunborn at an affordable price....
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on August 23, 2015, 04:40:46 PM
Hotels.com either free nights or use coupons
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on August 23, 2015, 04:43:51 PM
We just got back from our Spain/Gibraltar trip and we had a great experience at the Sunborn. We didn't experience any sea sickness as the ship was moored (GIB paid 30 Million Pounds for the mooring) and it does not move at all. In terms of the Eruv, someone from GIB called the Rabbi for us and he said that Ocean Village including the Sunborn is currently part of the Eruv.
How far was the walk from Sunborn to Shul?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on August 23, 2015, 04:44:23 PM
Hotels.com either free nights or use coupons
New thing, used to not be available there
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 23, 2015, 05:06:10 PM
How far was the walk from Sunborn to Shul?
I can't imagine it's more than 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: raccah on August 25, 2015, 06:17:13 PM
Hello All,

Is there a way to eat at a restaurant in GIB - like in Athens for Shabbos or is it all community people? My DW likes the privacy and was wondering? Otherwise, I can get food at the stores - correct? Looks like there are a few places.

Sadly, http://www.jewishgibraltar.com/ looks down for now.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 25, 2015, 06:21:50 PM
Hello All,

Is there a way to eat at a restaurant in GIB - like in Athens for Shabbos or is it all community people? My DW likes the privacy and was wondering? Otherwise, I can get food at the stores - correct? Looks like there are a few places.

Sadly, http://www.jewishgibraltar.com/ looks down for now.
Cafe Amar isn't open on Shabbos from what I remember.

If you showed up at shul you'd probably get invited out. I got 2 or 3 invites Friday night and 1 or 2 shabbos day even though we had a place.

The website is working for me.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 10, 2015, 12:41:22 PM
How long does it take from getting dropped off by a taxi by the border of GIB till I will be in the Jewish community?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on September 10, 2015, 12:43:09 PM
Took me a while to get a cab but the actual drive was prob 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 10, 2015, 12:48:00 PM
Took me a while to get a cab but the actual drive was prob 20 minutes.
Are you crazy? It's a 25 minute walk  (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/36.1548752,-5.3483805/Nefutsot+Yehudah,+Gibraltar,+14+Bomb+House+Ln,+Gibraltar+GX11+1AA/@36.1469545,-5.3607323,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m9!4m8!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0xd0cbf819c318495:0x6306220af20fb8c!2m2!1d-5.3545173!2d36.1392099!3e2) or a 7 minute drive (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/36.1548752,-5.3483805/Nefutsot+Yehudah,+Gibraltar,+14+Bomb+House+Ln,+Gibraltar+GX11+1AA/@36.146505,-5.3607323,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m9!4m8!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0xd0cbf819c318495:0x6306220af20fb8c!2m2!1d-5.3545173!2d36.1392099!3e0) at most. GIB is tiny!
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 10, 2015, 01:08:58 PM
Took me a while to get a cab but the actual drive was prob 20 minutes.
What about going through the border? Takes time?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 10, 2015, 01:14:21 PM
What about going through the border? Takes time?
With a car, yeah, it can take about 30 minutes, but on foot there didn't seem to be a wait. If the cab drops you off on the La Linea side it's a quick walk in.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 10, 2015, 01:17:07 PM
With a car, yeah, it can take about 30 minutes, but on foot there didn't seem to be a wait. If the cab drops you off on the La Linea side it's a quick walk in.
OK. Great. Probably taking a taxi from agp on a Friday afternoon
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 10, 2015, 01:18:32 PM
OK. Great. Probably taking a taxi from agp on a Friday afternoon
According to this (http://www.jewishgibraltar.com/travel.php) site it should cost a bit, but it's probably your best option.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 10, 2015, 01:20:04 PM
According to this (http://www.jewishgibraltar.com/travel.php) site it should cost a bit, but it's probably your best option.
Still cheaper and simpler then a car rental
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 10, 2015, 01:20:56 PM
Still cheaper and simpler then a car rental
True, especially if you have to pay for parking in GIB. Where are you staying there?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 10, 2015, 01:26:46 PM
True, especially if you have to pay for parking in GIB. Where are you staying there?
Hoping to get hosted, anyone have ideas?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 10, 2015, 01:28:23 PM
Hoping to get hosted, anyone have ideas?
Most people I know who've gone have stayed at a hotel for shabbos (all shuls are within a 15 minute walk of all hotels, most are 5 min or less), and get hosted for meals. Were you looking to stay with someone for shabbos or just eat there?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 10, 2015, 01:29:08 PM
Most people I know who've gone have stayed at a hotel for shabbos (all shuls are within a 15 minute walk of all hotels, most are 5 min or less), and get hosted for meals. Were you looking to stay with someone for shabbos or just eat there?
Eat and sleep.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 10, 2015, 01:32:31 PM
Eat and sleep.
Hmmm, I may be able to help you with eating, but the people we at with didn't offer sleeping accommodations. They recommended the Elliot Hotel which is a 1 minute walk from their house.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on September 10, 2015, 02:07:34 PM
How long does it take from getting dropped off by a taxi by the border of GIB till I will be in the Jewish community?
Walking should be 20 min driving like 5
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 10, 2015, 02:29:09 PM
According to this (http://www.jewishgibraltar.com/travel.php) site it should cost a bit, but it's probably your best option.
i got quoted 120 euro and that site hasnt been updated in 5 years
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 10, 2015, 02:29:49 PM
Walking should be 20 min driving like 5
Huh? Are you saying the  line to get in walking should be 4x longer than driving? At least when I drove in there was a 20-30 minute wait whereas I didn't see any line for pedestrians.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 10, 2015, 02:31:29 PM
i got quoted 120 euro and that site hasnt been updated in 5 years
That sounds like a good deal based on that site though. Does that include tolls on the AP-7 or only the toll-free A7 route? We had some time so we took the A7 and it was a great drive. It didn't have any traffic and only took a few minutes longer than the AP-7.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 10, 2015, 02:33:43 PM
That sounds like a good deal based on that site though. Does that include tolls on the AP-7 or only the toll-free A7 route? We had some time so we took the A7 and it was a great drive. It didn't have any traffic and only took a few minutes longer than the AP-7.
Not sure. I would have to call back. Its a Jewish guy that lives in malaga
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 10, 2015, 02:34:30 PM
Huh? Are you saying the  line to get in walking should be 4x longer than driving? At least when I drove in there was a 20-30 minute wait whereas I didn't see any line for pedestrians.
Hes probably referring to the actual walk
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 10, 2015, 02:38:18 PM
Hes probably referring to the actual walk
That makes more sense.  :-[
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on September 10, 2015, 11:01:09 PM
YMMV on the border. We spent <1 minute driving through.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 10, 2015, 11:07:41 PM
YMMV on the border. We spent <1 minute driving through.
True, but I believe you were the exception not the rule.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on September 11, 2015, 05:09:11 AM
True, but I believe you were the exception not the rule.
I didn't either encounter any traffic.
Hes probably referring to the actual walk
+1
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 28, 2015, 05:30:12 PM
are there Visa/entrance fees  at all when entering GiB from Spain?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on September 28, 2015, 05:32:13 PM
are there Visa/entrance fees  at all when entering GiB from Spain?
No
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 09, 2015, 09:56:40 AM
but they have a cool visa stamp. you have to request one though
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on October 09, 2015, 10:27:56 AM
but they have a cool visa stamp. you have to request one though
Darn, just drove through. took 30 seconds and noone even looked at me
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 09, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
Darn, just drove through. took 30 seconds and noone even looked at me
That's exactly why I didn't request one. That and holding up the line longer didn't seem like a good idea.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on October 09, 2015, 12:55:32 PM
Anyone know what time shachris is by Nefusot Yehudah on shabbos?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 10, 2015, 07:08:19 PM
That's exactly why I didn't request one. That and holding up the line longer didn't seem like a good idea.
there was no line when i was leaving
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Srsy on May 05, 2016, 12:05:33 AM
We would like to visit Gibralter which other cities in South of Spain worthwhile to go to.  Minyan a plus.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 05, 2016, 12:38:39 AM
We would like to visit Gibralter which other cities in South of Spain worthwhile to go to.  Minyan a plus.
None have a regular minyan. All are nice. Look up which things you'd like to see and decide that way.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: zow on June 05, 2016, 12:10:16 AM
Question: has anyone driven to La Linea, parked car there over Shabbos, and walked across border to GIB? Wondering if it is worthwhile to avoid the driving and parking hassles in GIB, as it seems very close (20-minute walk) from border to Elliott. Also seems like pedestrian crossing may be less likely to suffer delay at border, though the few posters above indicated they had no problems by car, either. 

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 05, 2016, 12:28:45 AM
Question: has anyone driven to La Linea, parked car there over Shabbos, and walked across border to GIB? Wondering if it is worthwhile to avoid the driving and parking hassles in GIB, as it seems very close (20-minute walk) from border to Elliott. Also seems like pedestrian crossing may be less likely to suffer delay at border, though the few posters above indicated they had no problems by car, either. 

Thanks in advance.
I found parking at the Elliott to be easy enough. True, the streets of GIB to the hotel were tight and it took about 20 minutes to cross the boarder by car, but I think it was worth not schlepping suitcases for a 20 minute walk. Gibraltar is very hot and humid in the summer (not quite like Singapore, but still hot and humid), so it won't be a fun walk. Plus the sidewalks are very narrow or nonexistent making the walk that much harder. And that's not to mention the safety of the parking lots in Spain. I'd rather have my car in a private lot in the hotel than left there for 2 days.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: zow on June 05, 2016, 12:34:24 AM
I found parking at the Elliott to be easy enough. True, the streets of GIB to the hotel were tight and it took about 20 minutes to cross the boarder by car, but I think it was worth not schlepping suitcases for a 20 minute walk. Gibraltar is very hot and humid in the summer (not quite like Singapore, but still hot and humid), so it won't be a fun walk. Plus the sidewalks are very narrow or nonexistent making the walk that much harder. And that's not to mention the safety of the parking lots in Spain. I'd rather have my car in a private lot in the hotel than left there for 2 days.
Sold. Thanks, Yehoshua.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 05, 2016, 12:34:55 AM
Sold. Thanks, Yehoshua.
Enjoy!!
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: zow on July 03, 2016, 12:51:35 AM
Friend at shul told me today that the Jewish community of GIB is (one of the?) last to consider swordfish as kosher and, in fact, it is a traditional Friday night dinner.  Anyone with personal experience here? I can ask my LOR, but wondering if anyone has first-hand experience.

I googled and found this: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiEiaajvtbNAhXCyoMKHbbCDAYQFgg1MAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhalachicadventures.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F09%2FMishpacha-mesoah-dinner.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEjRTPDTCRvPKe9O6FjWcJhY_Pakg&sig2=Hc2t24TMvzdwMJmm-aDp9A.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 03, 2016, 01:02:44 AM
Friend at shul told me today that the Jewish community of GIB is (one of the?) last to consider swordfish as kosher and, in fact, it is a traditional Friday night dinner.  Anyone with personal experience here? I can ask my LOR, but wondering if anyone has first-hand experience.

I googled and found this: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiEiaajvtbNAhXCyoMKHbbCDAYQFgg1MAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhalachicadventures.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F09%2FMishpacha-mesoah-dinner.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEjRTPDTCRvPKe9O6FjWcJhY_Pakg&sig2=Hc2t24TMvzdwMJmm-aDp9A.
FWIW the people we ate at didn't serve it.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on July 11, 2016, 01:38:39 AM
how do i find out minyan times for shabbos? website was last updated in 2010!
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 11, 2016, 08:30:15 AM
how do i find out minyan times for shabbos? website was last updated in 2010!
Call. Most minyanim for shachris are at 9am IIRC.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 11, 2016, 09:01:11 AM
Friend at shul told me today that the Jewish community of GIB is (one of the?) last to consider swordfish as kosher and, in fact, it is a traditional Friday night dinner.  Anyone with personal experience here? I can ask my LOR, but wondering if anyone has first-hand experience.

I googled and found this: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiEiaajvtbNAhXCyoMKHbbCDAYQFgg1MAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhalachicadventures.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F09%2FMishpacha-mesoah-dinner.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEjRTPDTCRvPKe9O6FjWcJhY_Pakg&sig2=Hc2t24TMvzdwMJmm-aDp9A.
They eat a lot of fish but never heard of anyone there eating swordfish.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: zow on July 11, 2016, 02:04:17 PM
They eat a lot of fish but never heard of anyone there eating swordfish.
Thanks. I'll let you know what I learn when I visit!
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: DTM on July 30, 2017, 11:43:41 AM
1.How can I arrange in advance to be hosted for Shabbos meals?
2.Also, trying to decide between Elliot Hotel and Sunborn, would appreciate any comments.
3. Any feedback on the kosher restaurant in Marbella (aside from the Facebook page)?
3. I wonder how long is the drive from Marbella to Gibraltar, and what would a taxi cost?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 30, 2017, 08:06:10 PM
1.How can I arrange in advance to be hosted for Shabbos meals?
2.Also, trying to decide between Elliot Hotel and Sunborn, would appreciate any comments.
3. Any feedback on the kosher restaurant in Marbella (aside from the Facebook page)?
3. I wonder how long is the drive from Marbella to Gibraltar, and what would a taxi cost?
Thanks!
I think there is a community email address you can contact. Google Jewish community of Gibraltar and see if it comes up. 
Doubt you'll find someone who has been to both hotels :(
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: DTM on August 31, 2017, 03:51:20 PM
I am trying to find out how to arrange in advance to be hosted for Shabbos meals in Gibraltar. I emailed the Gibraltar Jewish Community website but have not heard back yet. I wonder if any other DDF posters were hosted and can share information.   
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 31, 2017, 03:54:16 PM
I am trying to find out how to arrange in advance to be hosted for Shabbos meals in Gibraltar. I emailed the Gibraltar Jewish Community website but have not heard back yet. I wonder if any other DDF posters were hosted and can share information.   
Thing is you're just another random dude online (assuming you're actually a dude at all). AFAIK there aren't any DDFers from Gibraltar, so I think you'd be best having someone you know (IRL) set you up.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: DTM on August 31, 2017, 04:03:20 PM
I'll PM you with my contact information and you can decide if I am legit and, then, if you wish to kindly direct me further that would be great. 
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 31, 2017, 04:16:49 PM
I'll PM you with my contact information and you can decide if I am legit and, then, if you wish to kindly direct me further that would be great.
I don't live in GIB and can't recommend anyone. I can say people are super friendly and will likely invite you last minute Friday night.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on August 31, 2017, 05:21:41 PM
I have a couple of Gib cousins (through marriage) and plenty of friends from there....
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: DTM on September 01, 2017, 09:13:14 AM
I have a couple of Gib cousins (through marriage) and plenty of friends from there....
Thanks, I PM'ed my contact information if you care to follow-up, much appreciated!
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Love 2 Travel on September 02, 2017, 10:53:27 PM
1.How can I arrange in advance to be hosted for Shabbos meals?
2.Also, trying to decide between Elliot Hotel and Sunborn, would appreciate any comments.
3. Any feedback on the kosher restaurant in Marbella (aside from the Facebook page)?
3. I wonder how long is the drive from Marbella to Gibraltar, and what would a taxi cost?
Thanks!

I stayed in the Elliot Hotel and wasn't very impressed. It's right next to the Jewish community but keep in mind that the entire Gibraltar is TINY!
We heard great things about the Sunborn and went to check it out and it was really cool....would definitely recommend it!
We also had a hard time being hosted for meals in advance.....in the end we were invited for the Friday night meal when someone knocked on our hotel room door to invite us.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: DTM on January 01, 2018, 11:00:12 AM
I note that many interesting trip planning questions go unanswered, or are not completely or thoroughly dealt with; and I would love to learn how it worked out and how the questioners would answer their own questions upon their return. That would make the DDF an even  more valuable resource for trip planners. I propose that, while we may not have the time or inclination to do a trip report, when we have some time after returning, to please go back and quote your own question and answer it in the same thread for the benefit of others. Thank you in advance. 
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: DTM on February 16, 2018, 11:36:39 AM
Posted this before, and on Spain thread as well, but reposting now closer to my upcoming trip to see if anyone else might want to weigh with some helpful advice on this. I emailed the Gib Community website about Shabbos meals but have not received any response. Seems awkward to solicit a Shabbos meal invite but apparently this is how its done in Gibraltar. Yet, how do I make this happen?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 16, 2018, 01:53:13 PM
Posted this before, and on Spain thread as well, but reposting now closer to my upcoming trip to see if anyone else might want to weigh with some helpful advice on this. I emailed the Gib Community website about Shabbos meals but have not received any response. Seems awkward to solicit a Shabbos meal invite but apparently this is how its done in Gibraltar. Yet, how do I make this happen?
I have seen reports of people being invited to meals when they showed up in Shul as the community knows when there's a stranger/guest in the back of Shul. Also no need to post in 2 different threads :)
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: DTM on February 16, 2018, 02:44:19 PM
I have seen reports of people being invited to meals when they showed up in Shul as the community knows when there's a stranger/guest in the back of Shul. ... :)
I know, but traveling with DW on vacation, not feeling good about uncertainty and awkwardness of waiting until we are in Shul Friday night to possibly be invited. Too bad there is no Chabad, or restaurant open on Shabbos. We could buy out in advance but Friday night in particular not so geshmack to eat in the hotel room; we will be staying at the Sunborn Hotel, but not a suite.  And given what I understand is the extraordinary hachnosas orchim there, you would think that the community website would respond to an e-mail. 
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 16, 2018, 02:49:11 PM
I know, but traveling with DW on vacation, not feeling good about uncertainty and awkwardness of waiting until we are in Shul Friday night to possibly be invited. Too bad there is no Chabad, or restaurant open on Shabbos. We could buy out in advance but Friday night in particular not so geshmack to eat in the hotel room; we will be staying at the Sunborn Hotel, but not a suite.  And given what I understand is the extraordinary hachnosas orchim there, you would think that the community website would respond to an e-mail.
I've never heard of anyone even answering that email address, ever.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on February 16, 2018, 04:40:46 PM
I note that many interesting trip planning questions go unanswered, or are not completely or thoroughly dealt with; and I would love to learn how it worked out and how the questioners would answer their own questions upon their return. That would make the DDF an even  more valuable resource for trip planners. I propose that, while we may not have the time or inclination to do a trip report, when we have some time after returning, to please go back and quote your own question and answer it in the same thread for the benefit of others. Thank you in advance.

Never been there but I think you have a great idea. Id love to hear a short synopsis of your when you get back!
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: DTM on February 16, 2018, 04:54:22 PM
Never been there but I think you have a great idea. Id love to hear a short synopsis of your when you get back!
IMYH will do. Trip to Spain, Gibraltar and Israel, April 15 - May 2.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 17, 2018, 12:42:19 PM
Get in touch with the rabbi. That's what we did.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: DTM on February 17, 2018, 07:16:27 PM
Get in touch with the rabbi. That's what we did.
Thanks Moish, but which Rabbi, and what is his contact information?
PM me if you prefer.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 17, 2018, 08:39:34 PM
His name is Rabbi Hassid
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on May 08, 2018, 02:48:41 PM
Anybody know the current taxi rates from malaga airport to gib?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: DTM on May 08, 2018, 03:12:29 PM
Anybody know the current taxi rates from malaga airport to gib?
Don't know current rates, but I am just back from Gibraltar and highly recommend local guide/driver Abby Suissa, www.abbytour.com , info@abbytour.com , for transportation and tours in and around the Gibraltar area. Recommended to us by the excellent Seville tour guide Moises Hassan, he drove us from Seville to Gibraltar, gave us a wonderful tour of Gibraltar, up to the Rock, etc., and after our weekend stay in Gib, he drove us to Granada.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: DTM on May 08, 2018, 03:17:07 PM
His name is Rabbi Hassid
Post-trip: Thanks to Moish, we emailed Rabbi Hassid in advance and promptly received a warm invitation for Friday night seudah at his home, and he told us that he was setting us up in advance with an invitation for Shabbos lunch with another family, all of whom were wonderful and gracious hosts.   
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on October 21, 2018, 02:56:31 AM
Hi,

Was anyone in GIB in the beginning of Dec? is it a good timing to go for 2-3 days?

Thank You
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Ell Eee on February 03, 2019, 12:56:44 AM
Hello,
Im planning on being in Gibraltar on Friday and shabbat in March,
Anyone can giude me on shabbat arrangement etc?
Hosted for meals or catered?
Thanks
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 03, 2019, 08:20:28 AM
Hello,
Im planning on being in Gibraltar on Friday and shabbat in March,
Anyone can giude me on shabbat arrangement etc?
Hosted for meals or catered?
Thanks
See my TR in the wiki for what I did.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 03, 2019, 10:16:46 AM
Hello,
Im planning on being in Gibraltar on Friday and shabbat in March,
Anyone can giude me on shabbat arrangement etc?
Hosted for meals or catered?
Thanks
Don't know about take out meals, but read my TR for details on where we stayed and what we did.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: DTM on February 11, 2019, 10:04:10 PM
Hello,
Im planning on being in Gibraltar on Friday and shabbat in March,
Anyone can giude me on shabbat arrangement etc?
Hosted for meals or catered?
Thanks
I Emailed Rabbi Hassid in advance and he invited us for Friday night and set us up with another family for Shabbos lunch.
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Ellen on January 22, 2020, 03:54:42 PM
Is there minyan here 3 times a day year round?
Title: Re: Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 22, 2020, 10:12:54 PM
Is there minyan here 3 times a day year round?
Yes.