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Title: AA Award Flights
Post by: BarryLincoln on September 12, 2014, 12:11:49 AM
Had two quick questions on booking an AA award flight (AA metal to Eur and LY metal to TLV):

1. Does AA award ticket allow for a free domestic trailing flight in the year following return to destination?
2. If I am a holder of an AA Exec Plat, will an offpeak coach award cost 7,500 fewer miles?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on September 12, 2014, 12:56:18 AM
Had two quick questions on booking an AA award flight (AA metal to Eur and LY metal to TLV):

1. Does AA award ticket allow for a free domestic trailing flight in the year following return to destination?
2. If I am a holder of an AA Exec Plat, will an offpeak coach award cost 7,500 fewer miles?
1. No. No stopovers!
2. Is this what you are talking about?
Quote from: http://www.aa.com/pubcontent/en_US/disclaimers/HP-PLATHV.jsp
Reduced Mileage Awards
The Reduced Mileage Awards program allows Citi® / AAdvantage® cardmembers to redeem American Airlines AAdvantage® miles for round trip or one-way travel on MileSAAver® awards to destinations selected every other month. The MileSAAver® discount is 7,500 American Airlines AAdvantage® miles round trip or 3,750 one-way for this Citi® / AAdvantage® card. Redemption of Reduced Mileage Awards applies only to bookings made by phone through American Airlines Reservations or through airport or city ticket centers. A $25 USD award service charge per person applies to AAdvantage® award reservations ticketed by our reservations offices; a $20 USD award service charge per person applies to AAdvantage® award reservations ticketed by our Travel Centers; or a $35 USD award service charge per person applies to AAdvantage® award reservations ticketed by our Airport Agents. This payment does not apply to AAdvantage® Executive Platinum members and AAirpass® customers. All such additional amounts are subject to change. Flights and availability are subject to change without notice. For the complete list of Reduced Mileage Awards, visit aa.com/reducedmilegeawards.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nobiggy on September 12, 2014, 12:56:30 AM
the 7.5k mile discount are only on certain domestic routes that change every month.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: BarryLincoln on September 12, 2014, 01:08:27 AM
Thanks everyone...Appreciate the guidance...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on September 17, 2014, 05:49:00 AM
Got a reservation on hold that ends today the hold, wanna hold it for another 5 days, can I just ask them to reserve it and hold it again without canceling or I need to cancel it first?

I'm just scared that from when I cancel it till I rebook it will be gone
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: E-MAN on December 05, 2014, 11:39:01 AM
Does AA only open up 1 saver award seat in J and F?
I'm looking for 2 tickets JFK - LAX direct in J or F and can only find one seat.
How do people go about booking 2 award seats?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on December 05, 2014, 11:51:52 AM
Does AA only open up 1 saver award seat in J and F?
I'm looking for 2 tickets JFK - LAX direct in J or F and can only find one seat.
How do people go about booking 2 award seats?
Usually opens about a week out.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: E-MAN on December 05, 2014, 12:02:01 PM
Usually opens about a week out.
Really? Do you recommend booking one now and waiting until a week before?
What if it doesn't open up?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on December 05, 2014, 02:09:26 PM
Really? Do you recommend booking one now and waiting until a week before?
What if it doesn't open up?
Well, that's what I noticed watching this route for the past month. Take a look at the next week and tell me what you think.

I booked an economy award (to avoid the close in booking fee) and planing on adding the miles and upgrading to F as it becomes available.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Novo on December 08, 2014, 02:01:17 PM
Usually opens about a week out.
But then you have to pay $75 fee, no?
DDS helps on AA too?
Title: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on December 08, 2014, 02:04:37 PM
But then you have to pay $75 fee, no?
DDS helps on AA too?

Well if you book economy on the same flight before the $75 is charged then Upgrade to first there is no fee to upgrade. But otherwise, yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ckmk47 on December 08, 2014, 02:19:37 PM

DDS helps on AA too?
NO. They don't allow changes once the ticket is booked.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Novo on December 08, 2014, 02:23:51 PM
NO. They don't allow changes once the ticket is booked.
Are you sure? IIRC I once changed a reservation, they told me as long as there's no change in the route it's free. CMIIW
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on December 08, 2014, 03:49:08 PM


Well if you book economy on the same flight before the $75 is charged then Upgrade to first there is no fee to upgrade.
Better yet, the same ROUTE.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: E-MAN on December 08, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Better yet, the same ROUTE.
So book one seat in j/f saver and the other in economy then upgrade economy to j/f when/if it becomes available?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on December 08, 2014, 03:52:06 PM
Are you sure? IIRC I once changed a reservation, they told me as long as there's no change in the route it's free. CMIIW
You are correct. Free date changes on AA as long as departure/arrival remains the same.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on December 08, 2014, 03:52:35 PM
So book one seat in j/f saver and the other in economy then upgrade economy to j/f when/if it becomes available?
Yup. Or both in economy and upgrade when it opens.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on December 08, 2014, 03:53:31 PM
You are correct. Free date changes on AA as long as departure/arrival remains the same.
$75 still kicks in though. CMIIW.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: E-MAN on December 08, 2014, 03:53:59 PM
Yup. Or both in economy and upgrade when it opens.
And if a second in j/f doesn't open then I'm stuck.
Do they usually open more seats or won't know until a week before?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on December 08, 2014, 03:54:13 PM
$75 still kicks in though. CMIIW.
Correct.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SrulyP on December 09, 2014, 10:30:10 AM
Hey Guys,

I have 167,000 AA miles and would love to sell them, but everyone tells me that is to risky, so i was wondering if anyone knew good use for them. I want to fly business/first with my wife and I dont really care to which country. Wondering if anyone knows of any of the best deals taking miles.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 09, 2014, 10:34:32 AM
Hey Guys,

I have 167,000 AA miles and would love to sell them, but everyone tells me that is to risky, so i was wondering if anyone knew good use for them. I want to fly business/first with my wife and I dont really care to which country. Wondering if anyone knows of any of the best deals taking miles.
I am using 62.5k PP to fly in F JFK-LAX-SFO-HND.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SrulyP on December 09, 2014, 10:42:58 AM
I am using 62.5k PP to fly in F JFK-LAX-SFO-HND.

HMM while that sounds like an awesome use of point Tokyo is just a little out of my reach these days.
I would love any safe country in south america!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 09, 2014, 10:44:18 AM
HMM while that sounds like an awesome use of point Tokyo is just a little out of my reach these days.
I would love any safe country in south america!
Almost an oxymoron. I'm sure there is something you can do. I believe AJK recently took a nice little trip using some AA points there.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SrulyP on December 09, 2014, 10:45:26 AM
Almost an oxymoron. I'm sure there is something you can do. I believe AJK recently took a nice little trip using some AA points there.

Thanks for the lead.

Basically I work and cant take more than a couple of days/ long weekend and looking for relaxing time
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 09, 2014, 05:06:49 PM
I want to book ZRH-JFK-BWI. Only ZRH-JFK has saavor available right now, if I book that flight, can I add JFK-BWI when it comes available without a change fee?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on December 09, 2014, 05:31:37 PM
I want to book ZRH-JFK-BWI. Only ZRH-JFK has saavor available right now, if I book that flight, can I add JFK-BWI when it comes available without a change fee?
You would need to book it as a separate ticket.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 10, 2014, 02:47:07 AM
You would need to book it as a separate ticket.
Thanks.
There's availability for ZRH-JFK, LGA-DCA. When JFK-BWI comes available will I be able to switch it? Fee?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on December 10, 2014, 06:16:48 AM
Thanks.
There's availability for ZRH-JFK, LGA-DCA. When JFK-BWI comes available will I be able to switch it? Fee?
Free change only applies to date not departure or destination city.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dan on December 10, 2014, 08:07:51 AM
You can request that AA open up space on a domestic leg when booking an international award ticket.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 10, 2014, 08:14:31 AM
You can request that AA open up space on a domestic leg when booking an international award ticket.
Thanks.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avrumy on January 02, 2015, 02:16:53 PM
If award availability is available on AA but not on BA is there anything I can do to get it available on BA? Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MC on January 02, 2015, 02:18:23 PM

If award availability is available on AA but not on BA is there anything I can do to get it available on BA? Thanks
PUTPAC
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avrumy on January 02, 2015, 02:25:38 PM
Sorry- can you tel me what you mean or provide the link for the DDF abbreviation page. Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on January 02, 2015, 02:27:06 PM
Sorry- can you tel me what you mean or provide the link for the DDF abbreviation page. Thanks

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10531.0

Pick Up The Phone And Call
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avrumy on January 02, 2015, 02:29:12 PM
Thanks to everyone for your help. I assume you mean BA. I on hold with them. is there any quick number that i can get through to them? Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MC on January 02, 2015, 02:30:12 PM

Thanks to everyone for your help. I assume you mean BA. I on hold with them. is there any quick number that i can get through to them? Thanks
Nope, their wait time is notoriously long. Put your phone on speaker so you'll hear when someone picks up and do other stuff meanwhile.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dr Moose on January 02, 2015, 02:32:27 PM
Thanks to everyone for your help. I assume you mean BA. I on hold with them. is there any quick number that i can get through to them? Thanks
I use gethuman.com and there's an option to have them call for you
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avrumy on January 02, 2015, 02:33:50 PM
I got them on the phone and it is available while it is not available on the website. There is a $25 USD charge per person to do it on the phone. Is there any way out of that? Thanks again for all your help
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on January 02, 2015, 02:36:30 PM
I got them on the phone and it is available while it is not available on the website. There is a $25 USD charge per person to do it on the phone. Is there any way out of that? Thanks again for all your help
Just tell them it isn't available online and you had no choice but to call.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: gt on January 05, 2015, 02:17:49 PM
Will us airways using aa miles ever open in biz from tlv to phl???  Is there a website that can alert me when it opens?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: DMYD on January 05, 2015, 02:20:24 PM
Will us airways using aa miles ever open in biz from tlv to phl??? Is there a website that can alert me when it opens?
That would be nice to have something like that, maybe create something like that!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dr Moose on January 05, 2015, 02:21:10 PM
Will us airways using aa miles ever open in biz from tlv to phl???  Is there a website that can alert me when it opens?
doesn't expertflyer notify you if awards open
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: gt on January 05, 2015, 02:32:42 PM
doesn't expertflyer notify you if awards open
looks like expertflyer will work with the premium account
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: pixi on January 05, 2015, 02:35:25 PM
I booked a AA domestic award ticket  ( via British ) ,  they charge baggage fee,  what's the best way I can get free baggage?  Any idea?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on January 05, 2015, 02:35:53 PM
I booked a Aa domestic award ticket via ( via British ) ,  they charge baggage fee,  what's the best way I can get free baggage?  Any idea?
AA card, upgrade to business...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: pixi on January 05, 2015, 02:50:53 PM
So I have to have an American Airlines credit card and after that I have to upgrade that credit card twin business credit card?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on January 05, 2015, 02:51:55 PM
So I have to have an American Airlines credit card and after that I have to upgrade that credit card twin business credit card?
You can get free bags with a business ticket. May be worth it to use the extra miles.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: pixi on January 05, 2015, 02:52:50 PM
You can get free bags with a business ticket. May be worth it to use the extra miles.
Not worth for such short flight..
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: pixi on January 05, 2015, 02:53:24 PM
You can get free bags with a business ticket. May be worth it to use the extra miles.
So if I have a AA credit card then it's free?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on January 05, 2015, 02:53:50 PM
So if I have a AA credit card then it's free?
Some cards offer free bags. Need to check.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: pixi on January 05, 2015, 02:54:44 PM
Some cards offer free bags. Need to check.
Check please
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MEIR613 on January 06, 2015, 12:19:15 AM
Will us airways using aa miles ever open in biz from tlv to phl???  Is there a website that can alert me when it opens?
Just booked this a couple weeks ago.

Got to keep on checking.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: thaber on January 06, 2015, 12:40:39 AM
Just booked this a couple weeks ago.

Got to keep on checking.
+1
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 07, 2015, 09:49:51 AM
Does anyone know the answer to this?

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23859.msg1021747#msg1021747
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on January 07, 2015, 09:00:56 PM
My AA flight of JFK-SFO-HND (AA F and JAL F) turned into JFK-LFR-HND on BA F. Two bags never made it to HND so they gave us 600 pounds and the BA flights were revenue fare. Not a bad start to vacation.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: smart brit on January 07, 2015, 09:11:40 PM
My AA flight of JFK-SFO-HND (AA F and JAL F) turned into JFK-LFR-HND on BA F. Two bags never made it to HND so they gave us 600 pounds and the BA flights were revenue fare. Not a bad start to vacation.
cash?
Enjoy the rest!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on January 07, 2015, 10:28:48 PM
cash?
Enjoy the rest!
Visa debit card.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Devorah on January 07, 2015, 10:39:24 PM
You can request that AA open up space on a domestic leg when booking an international award ticket.
How do you do that?  Does it work if the international flight is on a partner?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: gt on January 12, 2015, 08:15:25 PM
Just booked this a couple weeks ago.

Got to keep on checking.
how long before your flight did you book?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on January 16, 2015, 02:38:25 PM
Trying to book nyc -lhr for next week and it gets me $ 266 for each ticket , why is that ? And can I lower it ?

And I see ba flights is more expensive even

Is there some flights that will get me cheaper?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on January 16, 2015, 03:02:55 PM

Trying to book nyc -lhr for next week and it gets me $ 266 for each ticket , why is that ? And can I lower it ?

And I see ba flights is more expensive even

Is there some flights that will get me cheaper?

There is no need to repost. You will not get lower than that because of taxes, taxes cannot be lowered. British airways flights are more expensive because the ad on the fuel fees.

Don't leave from London and you will save money from no UK taxes. Any flights that's New York or anywhere to London Heathrow and back will have those same fees
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: smart brit on January 16, 2015, 03:08:00 PM
Don't leave from THE UK and you will save money from no UK taxes. Any flights that's New York or anywhere to London Heathrow and back will have those same fees
FTFY
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on January 16, 2015, 03:44:06 PM
There is no need to repost. You will not get lower than that because of taxes, taxes cannot be lowered. British airways flights are more expensive because the ad on the fuel fees.

Don't leave from London and you will save money from no UK taxes. Any flights that's New York or anywhere to London Heathrow and back will have those same fees
An other airport in london will be cheaper ? And if I use ba points how much will it be?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on January 16, 2015, 04:03:01 PM
An other airport in london will be cheaper ? And if I use ba points how much will it be?

Sorry, Any airport in the UK will have those fees. If you used BA points it would be the same with taxes plus fuel fees. But no late booking fee
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mawmaw on January 17, 2015, 08:40:09 PM
have  biz class ticket phl-tlv booked with aa miles  lap-child will cost me around $400 is there anyway to pay less? what is us air policy for lap-child?  maybe adding the lap-child in airport will save me the hefty fee
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on January 17, 2015, 11:13:48 PM
have  biz class ticket phl-tlv booked with aa miles  lap-child will cost me around $400 is there anyway to pay less? what is us air policy for lap-child?  maybe adding the lap-child in airport will save me the hefty fee
It's probably 10% of the fare, don't know if there is a way around it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mgarfin on January 17, 2015, 11:14:45 PM
Anyway upgrading an AA award book with avios?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on January 17, 2015, 11:21:50 PM
Anyway upgrading an AA award book with avios?
I think that rewards class are restricted fares, so probably not.
(Anyone cmiiw)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on January 17, 2015, 11:23:00 PM
I want to make a booking thru aa flying from
 jfk to lhr
 with a stop in mia ,
only to catch an older person and fly together to lhr ,meaning only a short stop , can I get it with same 40k aa points ? Without extra points and tax ?

Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on January 17, 2015, 11:29:27 PM
I want to make a booking thru aa flying from
 jfk to lhr
 with a stop in mia ,
only to catch an older person and fly together to lhr ,meaning only a short stop , can I get it with same 40k aa points ? Without extra points and tax ?

Thanks
First check if there is such a routing when you plug-in jfk-lhr.

If not then See if it prices out more miles on the multi city search.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mawmaw on January 17, 2015, 11:38:30 PM
It's probably 10% of the fare, don't know if there is a way around it.
i wonder if i will add the lap-child in the airport i will be able to pay less? also is it too risky to add lap-child at the airport? 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on January 17, 2015, 11:44:58 PM
First check if there is such a routing when you plug-in jfk-lhr.

If not then See if it prices out more miles on the multi city search.
It doesn't give me that route and by multi city search it asks 12.5k for each way nyc to mia , but lhr to mia it gave me a route with a stop in jfk one of the options
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on January 17, 2015, 11:47:09 PM
It doesn't give me that route and by multi city search it asks 12.5k for each way nyc to mia , but lhr to mia it gave me a route with a stop in jfk one of the options
Nyc is probably a bigger gateway city then mia so that makes sense.
Either way it seems it cost more...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on January 17, 2015, 11:49:17 PM
i wonder if i will add the lap-child in the airport i will be able to pay less? also is it too risky to add lap-child at the airport?
It's not risky to add at gate,
the question is if it will cost any less for the fare at the airport?
Probably just the opposite, the closer it gets to the flying date the fare might go up in price.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mawmaw on January 18, 2015, 12:24:40 AM
It's not risky to add at gate,
the question is if it will cost any less for the fare at the airport?
Probably just the opposite, the closer it gets to the flying date the fare might go up in price.
us air rep confirmed that us air  calculate lap-child the same way as AA 10% of the fare so i guess i wont get anything by adding child at the gate i wish international  will be like domestic flight that you can just add them by the gate without paying the 10% 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on January 18, 2015, 12:34:33 AM
Nyc is probably a bigger gateway city then mia so that makes sense.
Either way it seems it cost more...
So you think there is nothing to do?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MEIR613 on January 18, 2015, 12:44:12 AM
us air rep confirmed that us air  calculate lap-child the same way as AA 10% of the fare so i guess i wont get anything by adding child at the gate i wish international  will be like domestic flight that you can just add them by the gate without paying the 10%
LOL, I booked mine with BA came out to be around $400 for all the taxes from tlv-phl including the infant.

Not sure when you booked, but if you did in the past couple weeks you should have went the ba route. It would have been cheaper with the promo then AA.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mawmaw on January 18, 2015, 01:02:19 AM
LOL, I booked mine with BA came out to be around $400 for all the taxes from tlv-phl including the infant.

Not sure when you booked, but if you did in the past couple weeks you should have went the ba route. It would have been cheaper with the promo then AA.
it all come to the points of what currency you have i have stocked up on AA in the good old days of 100k offer  :)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on January 18, 2015, 10:10:29 PM
Aa award booking down for a few hours by me ,anyone else?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 18, 2015, 10:12:36 PM
Aa award booking down for a few hours by me ,anyone else?
-1

At what point is it down? I can still search awards
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on January 18, 2015, 10:20:00 PM
Jfk to lhr doesn't show ,it says system error
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 18, 2015, 10:59:50 PM
Jfk to lhr doesn't show ,it says system error
-1 Shows by me
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 19, 2015, 01:11:15 PM
AA claims that if they make any change to my flight booked on elal, (I  booked on the us airways glitch for the way back) even just to the return, it could cancel the entire ticket. Is there any truth to that? Meanwhile elal says they cant touch the ticket because its not their ticket stock, so I am kind of stuck in the middle. Any ideas?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: HolyNyc on January 19, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
AA claims that if they make any change to my flight booked on elal, (I  booked on the us airways glitch for the way back) even just to the return, it could cancel the entire ticket. Is there any truth to that? Meanwhile elal says they cant touch the ticket because its not their ticket stock, so I am kind of stuck in the middle. Any ideas?
cancel the elal after you leave
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on January 19, 2015, 03:31:17 PM
After looking at AA's Award Cancellation/Change policy (https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/redeemMiles/makingAwardReservations.jsp) and thinking that I learned a bit from reading the forums, I wanted to confirm:

a) as long as I am more than 21 days away from departure, and am not changing departure or origin city, I can change my award reservation for free, even if I am not an Executive Platinum member?

b) if so, and I have a current TLV-PHL OW ticket (on hold), does adding a PHL-LGA flight change the price I will pay/obligate me to pay a change fee?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 19, 2015, 03:32:38 PM
a) Subject to some exceptions, correct.

b) If before ticketing, no fee. If after, a fee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 19, 2015, 03:37:47 PM
cancel the elal after you leave
That is a great idea, I just hope that I wont get hit twice with the miles redeposit fee ($150) and the 21 day to departure ($75) Since technically its not changing origin or destination on the award. Also hopefully they will honor the hold on usairways in biz.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on January 19, 2015, 03:58:31 PM
Just booked an AA award NYC-LHR, within 21 days so paid the $75, got some question;

1. Can I change the dates, not changing departure or origin city or airports, without paying again $75?
2. Can I change my return flight after I flew my first leg?
3. Cancelling costs $150, can you cancel till the last minute are there is a minimum of time needed before the flight?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on January 19, 2015, 04:05:12 PM
a) Subject to some exceptions, correct.

b) If before ticketing, no fee. If after, a fee.
Thanks (as usual :) )!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 19, 2015, 04:10:51 PM
Just booked an AA award NYC-LHR, within 21 days so paid the $75, got some question;

1. Can I change the dates, not changing departure or origin city or airports, without paying again $75?
2. Can I change my return flight after I flew my first leg?
3. Cancelling costs $150, can you cancel till the last minute are there is a minimum of time needed before the flight?

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on January 19, 2015, 04:14:55 PM
1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
With no fee?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 19, 2015, 04:30:55 PM
Depends on the change.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on January 19, 2015, 04:31:58 PM
Thanks,

Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on January 20, 2015, 12:30:48 AM
Can I change a aa award booking for a day later ? Does it cost?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 20, 2015, 12:31:59 AM
Can I change a aa award booking for a day later ? Does it cost?
Within 3 weeks of the flight iirc $75 close in fee
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 20, 2015, 12:34:22 AM
Within 3 weeks of the flight iirc $75 close in free
*fee, I wish free ;D Yes, its 21 days
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on January 20, 2015, 01:09:14 AM
Within 3 weeks of the flight iirc $75 close in fee
I already paid 75 fee because its already in 21 days , if its still in the 24 hour of when booking was made , can I change it without fee? I booked it today ,can I still change it ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 20, 2015, 01:16:35 AM
I already paid 75 fee because its already in 21 days , if its still in the 24 hour of when booking was made , can I change it without fee? I booked it today ,can I still change it ?
If it was booked as opposed to held, I don't think so. Its that sneaky choice of theirs. Though if its an award booking you can change it, though I don't know if you will get that fee back.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on January 20, 2015, 08:07:51 AM
If it was booked as opposed to held, I don't think so. Its that sneaky choice of theirs. Though if its an award booking you can change it, though I don't know if you will get that fee back.
Not asking for fee back ,just wana know if it will be another charge and if I can change it next week the day of departure
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on January 20, 2015, 08:08:24 AM
Can I still add in the day of departure for wheel chair assistance ?


today is departure and I don't see it online , where can I find it ?

Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MEIR613 on January 20, 2015, 08:22:04 AM
Not asking for fee back ,just wana know if it will be another charge and if I can change it next week the day of departure
There is no fee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on January 20, 2015, 09:03:05 AM
Can I still add in the day of departure for wheel chair assistance ?


today is departure and I don't see it online , where can I find it ?

Thanks
Bump
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: HolyNyc on January 20, 2015, 09:07:55 AM
Bump
call and try
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on January 20, 2015, 09:09:41 AM
Where do I add Kosher meals on my AA award ticket? 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 20, 2015, 09:11:52 AM
Where do I add Kosher meals on my AA award ticket?
PUTPAC.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on January 20, 2015, 09:19:39 AM
PUTPAC.
All airlines can be booked online, why is it like this that on AA you cant?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 12:02:40 PM
I've booked KSML online for AA flights.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mocha on January 20, 2015, 12:26:25 PM
I've booked KSML online for AA flights.
Award??
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 12:32:24 PM
I haven't paid for a flight since 2011.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mocha on January 20, 2015, 12:34:17 PM
I haven't paid for a flight since 2011.
You mean revenue. Points are worth money. Lots of it, actually.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mawmaw on January 20, 2015, 12:47:27 PM
I haven't paid for a flight since 2011.
and how many times you used premium award ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on January 20, 2015, 12:47:44 PM
I've booked KSML online for AA flights.
Can you show me where? link?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 12:55:55 PM
Don't recall and I'm not in front of a computer.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on January 20, 2015, 12:58:43 PM
I haven't paid for a flight since 2011.
I'm sure the amount of yq and other fees you paid is  alot, just saying...

But I would also call it free reletivly speaking.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on January 20, 2015, 12:59:49 PM
and how many times you used premium award ?
Let's start with how many times he didn't
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 01:04:14 PM
I'm sure the amount of yq and other fees you paid is  alot, just saying...

But I would also call it free reletivly speaking.

Well, using that as the barometer, none of my travel has been free,  because I've had to pay Uncle Sam his 2.50/5.60 per leg.

And nobody else has had free travel either for that matter for the same reason.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on January 20, 2015, 01:06:54 PM
Well, using that as the barometer, none of my travel has been free,  because I've had to pay Uncle Sam his 2.50/5.60 per leg.

And nobody else has had free travel either for that matter for the same reason.
Indeed,
However I was referring to the long haul flights on high yq carriers, e.g. lh, cx, etc...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 01:07:38 PM
Only YQ I've ever paid was on SQ. Every time I've flown LH and CX has been without YQ.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on January 20, 2015, 01:15:16 PM
Only YQ I've ever paid was on SQ. Every time I've flown LH and CX has been without YQ.
How did you get around it?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 20, 2015, 02:36:35 PM
I am having a huge problem with an AA award flight, all suggestions are welcome.

I have a flight from EWR to TLV round-trip, booked on LY using AA miles.

 I want to change the return to a few days later to a reservation that I have on hold with usairways (one of the glitch award tickets)

First I called AA and they said they cant touch the return at all since they no longer have a mileage agreement with LY and any change to the ticket will mess with the outbound segment as well.

Then I called EL Al who said they cant either touch the ticket because it was issued by american.

I then called AA again, and asked them to just switch the return flight to the usairways flight that I have on hold. This time they said they can switch it, but it will cost $150 for the change although I'm not switching the destination or departing since I am switching the airline. I am fine with paying that, but then she said that she cant use the reservation that I have on hold because "that's not how it works" and anyways she said she wouldn't be able to switch the class of service, even if it would be currently available. 

Is there any way to get this done?

TIA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on January 20, 2015, 02:49:17 PM
Did you ask them about just cancelling the return leg on LY?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 20, 2015, 02:56:16 PM
Did you ask them about just cancelling the return leg on LY?
I think I could do that, though I would get hit twice with fees 

1. Mile redeposit fee $150 for the return

2. Close in booking fee $75 for the new flight
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 02:58:31 PM
I am having a huge problem with an AA award flight, all suggestions are welcome.

I have a flight from EWR to TLV round-trip, booked on LY using AA miles.

 I want to change the return to a few days later to a reservation that I have on hold with usairways (one of the glitch award tickets)

First I called AA and they said they cant touch the return at all since they no longer have a mileage agreement with LY and any change to the ticket will mess with the outbound segment as well.

Then I called EL Al who said they cant either touch the ticket because it was issued by american.

I then called AA again, and asked them to just switch the return flight to the usairways flight that I have on hold. This time they said they can switch it, but it will cost $150 for the change although I'm not switching the destination or departing since I am switching the airline. I am fine with paying that, but then she said that she cant use the reservation that I have on hold because "that's not how it works" and anyways she said she wouldn't be able to switch the class of service, even if it would be currently available. 

Is there any way to get this done?

TIA

Rep is correct.

Cannot merge the PNRs, and switching from a partner award to a oneworld award incurs a fee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on January 20, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
I think I could do that, though I would get hit twice with fees 

1. Mile redeposit fee $150 for the return

2. Close in booking fee $75 for the new flight
I don't even know if it can be done (just cancelling return) but if so, you should be able to talk your way out of the $75 close-in fee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 20, 2015, 03:04:14 PM
I don't even know if it can be done (just cancelling return) but if so, you should be able to talk your way out of the $75 close-in fee.
Rep is correct.

Cannot merge the PNRs, and switching from a partner award to a oneworld award incurs a fee.
So the best option is to wait until I arrive in Israel, then attempt to cancel the return? Is there any truth to what my original rep said that the outbound would be affected as well?

 Also do they have flexibility regarding waiving the close in fee?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on January 20, 2015, 03:07:17 PM
Id try calling now and seeing if they can just cancel return leg.

Better idea- try getting cancellation fee waived (was able via supervisor) and pay close-in fee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 20, 2015, 03:08:18 PM
Id try calling now and seeing if they can just cancel return leg.

I've gotten close-in fee waived for less.
When you say "less" You mean less time to the flight?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on January 20, 2015, 03:13:21 PM
When you say "less" You mean less time to the flight?
I edited my post- just try to get both close-in and cancel fee waived. You aren't really cancelling and arent really booking close-in. It's doable via the right supervisor. Depends on your gift of gab, level of patience and time to spend on phone.

Bottom line- find out first if it's even possible to cancel return and leave departure flight in tact.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 20, 2015, 03:32:13 PM
I edited my post- just try to get both close-in and cancel fee waived. You aren't really cancelling and arent really booking close-in. It's doable via the right supervisor. Depends on your gift of gab, level of patience and time to spend on phone.

Bottom line- find out first if it's even possible to cancel return and leave departure flight in tact.
Thanks, will do. Though the previous rep right before she hung up said she notated the account not to let me switch with out fee *******
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 03:45:37 PM
I edited my post- just try to get both close-in and cancel fee waived. You aren't really cancelling and arent really booking close-in. It's doable via the right supervisor. Depends on your gift of gab, level of patience and time to spend on phone.

-1

He's changing the flight. He's required to pay a change fee.

Thanks, will do. Though the precious rep right before she hung up said she notated the account not to let me switch with out fee *******

Then you're all but DOA.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chff on January 20, 2015, 03:50:17 PM


Well, using that as the barometer, none of my travel has been free,  because I've had to pay Uncle Sam his 2.50/5.60 per leg.

As all ads go, taxes include the 5.60 Sep 11 security fee, but never writes out the YQ or any other taxes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 03:54:19 PM

As all ads go, taxes include the 5.60 Sep 11 security fee, but never writes out the YQ or any other taxes

Come again?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chff on January 20, 2015, 03:56:25 PM
Come again?
I like how on all advertisements the airline writes out that the fare includes the $5.60 Sep 11 Security Fee but don't write out the YQ or other taxes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 03:58:27 PM
I like how on all advertisements the airline writes out that the fare includes the $5.60 Sep 11 Security Fee but don't write out the YQ or other taxes

You sure they don't include "taxes and fees" etc in the footnotes?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chff on January 20, 2015, 03:59:29 PM
You sure they don't include "taxes and fees" etc in the footnotes?
Taxes & fees, but the $5.60 is written out, like that bothers me the most
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 04:00:02 PM
Taxes & fees, but the $5.60 is written out, like that bothers me the most

Yeah, if that's the case (you have a link?), then it's definitely misleading.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 20, 2015, 05:10:05 PM
-1

He's changing the flight. He's required to pay a change fee.

Then you're all but DOA.
Ill pay the $200 to switch, assuming it wont cancel my outbound flight...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 05:12:57 PM
That part doesn't seem right to me. Cancelling the return should have no effect on the outbound, unless I'm missing something.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 20, 2015, 05:25:28 PM
That part doesn't seem right to me. Cancelling the return should have no effect on the outbound, unless I'm missing something.
Ok, I'll try to get as high up as I can. But you are 100% convinced that I have no shot with getting those fees waived?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 05:27:03 PM
Ok, I'll try to get as high up as I can. But you are 100% convinced that I have no shot with getting those fees waived?

No. Anything can happen. I'm just saying they're technically entitled to charge them.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 20, 2015, 09:05:05 PM
That part doesn't seem right to me. Cancelling the return should have no effect on the outbound, unless I'm missing something.
Update: I spoke to multiple agents and supervisors, they all insist that changing the inbound leg would effect the outbound, and they refuse to attempt to change one leg.

What they did recommend doing is booking the itinerary that I have on hold (with the $75 close in fee) then once I get to TLV, cancel the inbound and pay the $150 to get the miles for the inbound flight redeposited.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 09:06:09 PM
Weird. In any event, though, you can do what they suggest as there's no difference.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on January 20, 2015, 10:45:26 PM

I've booked KSML online for AA flights.
+1
I haven't paid for a flight since 2011.
Didn't you end up flying to SEA for *G?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 11:44:38 PM
I did. But used vouchers.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on January 22, 2015, 12:32:58 AM
Double-checking a few more things:

a) in general, it's best to have two OWs instead of one RT to maintain maximum flexibility. However, if I end up having to cancel both OWs, will I then have to pay $300?

b) if I have a RT, is it possible to push the outbound past the return (i.e. switch the first flight from PHL-TLV to TLV-PHL), and if so is that considered a change in origin/destination?

TIA!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on January 22, 2015, 11:40:23 AM
Double-checking a few more things:

a) in general, it's best to have two OWs instead of one RT to maintain maximum flexibility. However, if I end up having to cancel both OWs, will I then have to pay $300?

b) if I have a RT, is it possible to push the outbound past the return (i.e. switch the first flight from PHL-TLV to TLV-PHL), and if so is that considered a change in origin/destination?

TIA!
Bump
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: HolyNyc on January 22, 2015, 11:54:02 AM
Double-checking a few more things:

a) in general, it's best to have two OWs instead of one RT to maintain maximum flexibility. However, if I end up having to cancel both OWs, will I then have to pay $300?

b) if I have a RT, is it possible to push the outbound past the return (i.e. switch the first flight from PHL-TLV to TLV-PHL), and if so is that considered a change in origin/destination?

TIA!
a) yes its 2 tickets
b) not allowed
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on January 22, 2015, 12:29:02 PM
a) yes its 2 tickets
b) not allowed
Thanks!
Interesting, so making two OWs instead of a RT also carries certain risks with it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on January 22, 2015, 01:51:47 PM
Thanks!
Interesting, so making two OWs instead of a RT also carries certain risks with it.

It deepens on the airline. the best example is avios, where you would pay the same cancel fee (the lower of $45 or taxes  per leg IIRC)  whether booked ow or rt, so ow is better
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 23, 2015, 09:42:47 AM
I just recieved this from AA about my booking

We would like to confirm that the following AAdvantage® miles have been deducted from this account:
Date Issued   Mileage   Description
01-**-2015   67,500   Flight Award

If by any chance you did not authorize these miles to be deducted, please contact us so we can assist you.

If the mileage deduction was for a flight, car or hotel award, you will receive your confirmation and/or voucher(s) separately.




 Anything to be worried about? (I have never sold miles, and the only ticket that ever wasnt under my name was my sisters who has the same last name) This ticket was for me.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on January 23, 2015, 09:46:19 AM
I just recieved this from AA about my booking

We would like to confirm that the following AAdvantage® miles have been deducted from this account:
Date Issued   Mileage   Description
01-**-2015   67,500   Flight Award

If by any chance you did not authorize these miles to be deducted, please contact us so we can assist you.

If the mileage deduction was for a flight, car or hotel award, you will receive your confirmation and/or voucher(s) separately.




 Anything to be worried about? (I have never sold miles, and the only ticket that ever wasnt under my name was my sisters who has the same last name) This ticket was for me.
Doesn't seem like they are thinking you sold. More like, maybe you were hacked. Could be wrong though.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on January 23, 2015, 09:59:46 AM
I got it every time I made an award booking. Seems standard to me.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on January 23, 2015, 10:01:09 AM

I got it every time I made an award booking. Seems standard to me.

Same here. Besides for the ticket email seems like just a confirmation that you took out the miles.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 23, 2015, 10:02:47 AM
I got it every time I made an award booking. Seems standard to me.
+1
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 23, 2015, 10:04:24 AM
Same here. Besides for the ticket email seems like just a confirmation that you took out the miles.
That's what I originally thought, but I remembered hearing that AA corporate security is crazy.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nobiggy on January 24, 2015, 04:42:33 PM
That's what I originally thought, but I remembered hearing that AA corporate security is crazy.

I always get it and I have flown on those tickets with those emails....
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on January 25, 2015, 10:37:52 PM
I always get it and I have flown on those tickets with those emails....
+1

Regular email.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on January 27, 2015, 06:36:44 PM
Just a quick question, booked a flight for someone that the first name is "Miriam Leah", so I did Miriam as first name and Leah as middle, Online it shows  only Miriam, am I good to go?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on January 27, 2015, 06:38:27 PM
Just a quick question, booked a flight for someone that the first name is "Miriam Leah", so I did Miriam as first name and Leah as middle, Online it shows  only Miriam, am I good to go?

yes, nothing to worry about at all
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on January 27, 2015, 06:38:52 PM
yes, nothing to worry about at all
Tnx
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on January 27, 2015, 08:46:00 PM
Does anyone know when changing an award date with same O&D do i need to pick the new date before changing or do i have time to choose that even after cancelling current date
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: voldemort on January 27, 2015, 11:18:57 PM

Does anyone know when changing an award date with same O&D do i need to pick the new date before changing or do i have time to choose that even after cancelling current date
You can cancel & hold it in your AA account for a year.
Or keep changing it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on January 27, 2015, 11:38:04 PM
You can cancel & hold it in your AA account for a year.
Or keep changing it.
For free?

And u can keep changing it forever ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: voldemort on January 28, 2015, 12:27:53 AM

For free?

And u can keep changing it forever ?
Yes.
No,only up until a year from ticketing the original.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on January 28, 2015, 12:56:41 AM
Yes.
No,only up until a year from ticketing the original.
Thanks. 2 more questions

How long before the travel date do you have to change it? Can I cancel same day?

And if I don't end up using it by the end of a year from ticketing, can I choose THEN to pay the fee and have then redeposited?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: voldemort on January 28, 2015, 01:04:10 AM

Thanks. 2 more questions

How long before the travel date do you have to change it? Can I cancel same day?

And if I don't end up using it by the end of a year from ticketing, can I choose THEN to pay the fee and have then redeposited?
Im pretty sure you can cancel up until departure,so yes.
If your still within a year,absolutely.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: kangarruu on January 28, 2015, 06:17:08 AM
Thanks. 2 more questions

How long before the travel date do you have to change it? Can I cancel same day?

And if I don't end up using it by the end of a year from ticketing, can I choose THEN to pay the fee and have then redeposited?

I once rescheduled the flight AFTER the travel date.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 28, 2015, 06:32:03 AM
Im pretty sure you can cancel up until departure,so yes.
If your still within a year,absolutely.
+1 up to departure
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on January 28, 2015, 07:27:26 AM
Can I change the date online or only by phone?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: HolyNyc on January 28, 2015, 08:20:55 AM
within 3 weeks of the flight there is a $75 change fee
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on January 28, 2015, 08:38:08 AM
within 3 weeks of the flight there is a $75 change fee
Isn't that only if the NEW travel date is within 21 dates?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: BarryLincoln on January 30, 2015, 12:35:51 PM
Am looking to book an AA award ticket for travel in the next two weeks and they are looking for a close-in fee.

Can I book the same route a month or two out, avoid the close-in fee, then call in to have dates changed (as in with United)?  Will they still charge close-in fee?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on January 30, 2015, 12:40:14 PM
No. Yes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 31, 2015, 05:33:20 PM
I'm booked on elal and a previous rep had told me that if there was a travel advisory out they would redeposit the miles for free.

Now there is an advisory out and they are refusing to waive the fee, hucad a few times already should I keep trying?

Alternatively since I have the previous rep recorded saying there would be no fee, grounds for a charge back?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 31, 2015, 06:49:46 PM
I'm booked on elal and a previous rep had told me that if there was a travel advisory out they would redeposit the miles for free.

Now there is an advisory out and they are refusing to waive the fee, hucad a few times already should I keep trying?

Alternatively since I have the previous rep recorded saying there would be no fee, grounds for a charge back?
update, B"H the next rep did it!!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on January 31, 2015, 06:52:13 PM
update, B"H the next rep did it!!
Great! Is there now a travel advisory on Israel?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: A3 on January 31, 2015, 06:57:38 PM
Great! Is there now a travel advisory on Israel?
Prob from NY.... For Monday.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: pixi on February 01, 2015, 12:16:03 AM
What advantages can I get from the citi aa card?  Free luggage,  and what more?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on February 01, 2015, 12:17:05 AM

What advantages can I get from the citi aa card?  Free luggage,  and what more?
depends which citi card?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: pixi on February 01, 2015, 12:19:49 AM
depends which citi card?
Platinum
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yaalili on February 01, 2015, 12:20:58 AM
What advantages can I get from the citi aa card?  Free luggage,  and what more?

10% rebate on awards.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: pixi on February 01, 2015, 12:21:58 AM
10% rebate on awards.
I booked a flight on aa trough ba I wanna know what advantages I can get from  the aa card on the flight I have booked already ( so no rebate)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: DMYD on February 01, 2015, 12:24:08 AM
I booked a flight on aa trough ba I wanna know what advantages I can get from  the aa card on the flight I have booked already ( so no rebate)
Priority boarding and first free luggage I think
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: pixi on February 01, 2015, 12:26:27 AM
Priority boarding and first free luggage I think
Thanks.  Going to apply for it
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on February 01, 2015, 05:32:18 AM
Thanks.  Going to apply for it
May not be so easy to get the benefits when applying after the fact. I think officially you need to use the CC for the flight. Though you can probably get them to do it at the airport.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on February 01, 2015, 06:47:03 AM
May not be so easy to get the benefits when applying after the fact. I think officially you need to use the CC for the flight. Though you can probably get them to do it at the airport.
-1. As long as your AA ffn is in the reservation, you'll get the benefits
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mocha on February 01, 2015, 07:24:21 AM
10% rebate on awards.
business card too?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 01, 2015, 07:25:38 AM
business card too?
I think so
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on February 01, 2015, 07:58:56 AM
10% rebate on awards.
What does this mean? Booking an award flight will it give me 10% off from the points, the surcharges?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: HolyNyc on February 01, 2015, 08:00:11 AM
What does this mean? Booking an award flight will it give me 10% off from the points, the surcharges?
10% rebate on the points up to 10k
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on February 01, 2015, 08:02:00 AM
10% rebate on the points up to 10k
Damm I paid an upcoming reservation with my capital one card, can I still do something?
And is it with all Citi AA cards?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 01, 2015, 09:09:11 AM
Damm I paid an upcoming reservation with my capital one card, can I still do something?
And is it with all Citi AA cards?
I don't think you have to pay with the card...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: bznt on February 01, 2015, 09:21:39 AM
When you " redeem " points. Then you get back 10% back in points
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on February 01, 2015, 11:59:10 AM
When you " redeem " points. Then you get back 10% back in points
This is very interesting as I just redeemed 80K miles and dont see any refund on miles? who do I contact for this?

and which card gets this benefit? all citi AA cards?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on February 01, 2015, 12:25:38 PM
Not interesting. Takes a few days.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yls2011 on February 04, 2015, 01:26:37 AM
Does anyone have experience with AA opening up space in business class on DFW-GRU? I want to book for June on the 77W, but currently only economy is available. Is there a certain time that AA is known to open seats?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: shimino1 on February 04, 2015, 05:28:14 AM
When flying AB on an award ticket, where can I find the AB number to look up my flight on thier website and select seats?
TIA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: HolyNyc on February 04, 2015, 06:18:58 AM
When flying AB on an award ticket, where can I find the AB number to look up my flight on thier website and select seats?
TIA
you might have to call AA to get it
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on February 04, 2015, 07:35:05 AM
Does anyone have experience with AA opening up space in business class on DFW-GRU? I want to book for June on the 77W, but currently only economy is available. Is there a certain time that AA is known to open seats?
I had the same problem on AA from JFK-LHR, and nothing opened up even till the last minute, while there were plenty space there to buy thickets
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: shimino1 on February 04, 2015, 12:30:46 PM
you might have to call AA to get it
I did.
I don't see anywhere on AB's website an option to select seats. Is it possible?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on February 04, 2015, 12:31:38 PM
I did.
I don't see anywhere on AB's website an option to select seats. Is it possible?
Nope
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: shimino1 on February 04, 2015, 12:40:16 PM
Just have to wait till online checkin? Or can it be done by calling?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nobiggy on February 04, 2015, 01:10:36 PM
Just to point out in case you didn't know.
You can now book on AA metal Buisness MileSAAver  on many dates to and from Europe in the spring/summer!
Certain dates even in First.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yls2011 on February 04, 2015, 05:32:28 PM
I had the same problem on AA from JFK-LHR, and nothing opened up even till the last minute, while there were plenty space there to buy thickets
I think it's not worth risking. I don't want to be stuck in economy for such a long flight...thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on February 04, 2015, 09:10:59 PM
I think it's not worth risking. I don't want to be stuck in economy for such a long flight...thanks
If you can find something that works for you now, probably best to lock that in.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yls2011 on February 04, 2015, 10:24:51 PM
If you can find something that works for you now, probably best to lock that in.
I ended up getting JFK-VCP in the reconfigured 763. I wonder if AA would charge a change fee to switch to JFK-GRU is saver availability opens up? The destination airport is obviously not the exact same but it is the same vicinity, in the same sense that JFK/LGA/EWR are the "same". Any thoughts?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: eliteflyer on February 04, 2015, 10:38:59 PM
Do the low-season awards apply for travel on US as well? I'm pricing out an award ticket NYC-LIR, and some options (including any that have US metal and one that is all on AA) are 17.5K. Others are 15K.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on February 05, 2015, 11:41:16 AM
Nyc-lhr
Bru -nyc
Is it the same tax as a 2 to london ? Or because the return aren't england is it cheaper?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on February 05, 2015, 12:06:59 PM
Nyc-lhr
Bru -nyc
Is it the same tax as a 2 to london ? Or because the return aren't england is it cheaper?

That.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: lybbtthl on February 05, 2015, 12:21:49 PM
Is it possible to refund the miles on an AA award without cancelling the PNR and have it reticketed from another mileage account?

I used a friends Executive Platinum account to book a reservation I'm not sure I'll fly, when (and if) I do decide to fly, I'd rather use my miles and not his. Is there any way to have it switched over to my miles?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on February 05, 2015, 12:33:54 PM
NAFAIK.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: lybbtthl on February 05, 2015, 12:40:09 PM
regarding those asking about the 10% rebate, I got such a rebate a while ago, but not since my last reservation, I called AA about it (citi rep had no idea, so called AA) they told me only the regular personal cards have this benefit not the Executive nor the Business, I currently have both, but none of the regular cards, I was told I'm not eligible for the rebate on my last redemption.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: lybbtthl on February 05, 2015, 12:41:41 PM
NAFAIK.

Technically, it could be done (based on my own experience working in Sabre) but will any rep do it? anyone ever tried?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on February 05, 2015, 12:45:20 PM
That.
Meaning that rt to lhr gets me $266 in taxes , because england has a high tax , question if its only a one way then its cheaper , and about ana is there a possibility of making a multi destination?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on February 05, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
Meaning that rt to lhr gets me $266 in taxes , because england has a high tax , question if its only a one way then its cheaper , and about ana is there a possibility of making a multi destination?

English, pls.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on February 05, 2015, 12:50:39 PM
Meaning that rt to lhr gets me $266 in taxes , because england has a high tax , question if its only a one way then its cheaper , and about ana is there a possibility of making a multi destination?
OW from NYC-LHR is $5.60
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on February 05, 2015, 12:58:15 PM
I flew 2 weeks ago on aa award booking made within 24 hours , nyc -lhr , 40k aa points +$266 ,

Now I want to fly feb. 16 nyc- lhr and back from bru -nyc , is my question will it also be $266 tax or it will be less because its only a one way to england and only england has high taxes , and Belgium does not
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on February 05, 2015, 12:59:41 PM
I flew 2 weeks ago on aa award booking made within 24 hours , nyc -lhr , 40k aa points +$266 ,

Now I want to fly feb. 16 nyc- lhr and back from bru -nyc , is my question will it also be $266 tax or it will be less because its only a one way to england and only england has high taxes , and Belgium does not
1. BRU-NYC no direct flights with AA
2. put in this details on AA.com and check :o
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: palm tights on February 05, 2015, 01:29:54 PM
So what options do I have with points for such route?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on February 07, 2015, 08:04:50 PM
I have an itinerary on US metal on hold with AA. I'd rather book part of it with Avios, will it go back to inventory as soon as I cancel the hold?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mawmaw on February 07, 2015, 08:17:16 PM
I have an itinerary on US metal on hold with AA. I'd rather book part of it with Avios, will it go back to inventory as soon as I cancel the hold?
AFAIK it will go back to inventory instantly 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: smart brit on February 07, 2015, 09:02:22 PM
1. BRU-NYC no direct flights with AA
2. put in this details on AA.com and check :o
jet airways flies Bru EWR
Could be booked with aa over the phone
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: VacationLover on February 08, 2015, 12:24:38 AM
jet airways flies Bru EWR
Could be booked with aa over the phone
Oh i thought Jet is *alliance. How many AA points for RT? Any fuel surcharge?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: smart brit on February 08, 2015, 12:32:17 AM
Oh i thought Jet is *alliance. How many AA points for RT? Any fuel surcharge?
off peak it's 20k per way and no fuel surcharges
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: VacationLover on February 08, 2015, 12:59:37 AM
off peak it's 20k per way and no fuel surcharges
Awesome. Gr8 availability?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on February 08, 2015, 02:14:54 PM
If I book an AA award LAX-JFK as a connecting flight in business (LAX-BNA-JFK) and later a First Class seat opens up direct (LAX-JFK) can I change it with no fee just the additional miles?

What if I booked JFK-LAX-BNA-JFK and I already took the first leg when the return F (or J) opens on a direct flight? Does that change anything? Can I switch to direct with no fee?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: lybbtthl on February 08, 2015, 02:19:28 PM
If I book an AA award LAX-JFK as a connecting flight in business (LAX-BNA-JFK) and later a First Class seat opens up direct (LAX-JFK) can I change it with no fee just the additional miles?

What if I booked JFK-LAX-BNA-JFK and I already took the first leg when the return F (or J) opens on a direct flight? Does that change anything? Can I switch to direct with no fee?

IME you can but you might need to pay the $75 expedite fee (if you haven't already paid it) YMMV whether or not they'll charge it.

I don't think anything changes if you already flew part of the reservation
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on February 08, 2015, 02:24:46 PM
AFAIK it will go back to inventory instantly
Thanks. Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on February 08, 2015, 02:26:17 PM
If I book an AA award LAX-JFK as a connecting flight in business (LAX-BNA-JFK) and later a First Class seat opens up direct (LAX-JFK) can I change it with no fee just the additional miles?

What if I booked JFK-LAX-BNA-JFK and I already took the first leg when the return F (or J) opens on a direct flight? Does that change anything? Can I switch to direct with no fee?

Yes.

Changes nothing.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on February 08, 2015, 02:27:31 PM
IME you can but you might need to pay the $75 expedite fee (if you haven't already paid it) YMMV whether or not they'll charge it.

I don't think anything changes if you already flew part of the reservation
Yes.

Changes nothing.
Thanks.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on February 09, 2015, 01:12:06 PM
Yes.

Changes nothing.
How about the opposite; Booked in J and want to downgrade to Y (Origin/Destination same), will AA refund the extra miles at no charge?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on February 09, 2015, 01:17:39 PM
How about the opposite; Booked in J and want to downgrade to Y (Origin/Destination same), will AA refund the extra miles at no charge?
No, and you cant downgrade if its needed to refund miles without the $150 fee
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on February 09, 2015, 03:52:54 PM
I have an itinerary on US metal on hold with AA. I'd rather book part of it with Avios, will it go back to inventory as soon as I cancel the hold?
Update: It did go back into inventory instantly.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on February 09, 2015, 04:14:25 PM
Update: It did go back into inventory instantly.
I just had one with AA that did not.  :'(
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on February 09, 2015, 04:17:24 PM
I just had one with AA that did not.  :'(
Oish.

AA metal?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on February 10, 2015, 01:15:02 AM
Oish.

AA metal?
Yup.

Thankfully, I was able to grab something else.

Looks like I'll be flying in F instead of J.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: normaly2345 on February 12, 2015, 02:37:15 AM
Could u buy a Aa saver ticket for 12500 p then change to a day that doesn't have Aa saver for no extra fees and points (have the Aa executive platinum)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on February 12, 2015, 02:40:06 AM
Could u buy a Aa saver ticket for 12500 p then change to a day that doesn't have Aa saver for no extra fees and points (have the Aa executive platinum)

If only that was possible . . .
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: normaly2345 on February 12, 2015, 02:44:24 AM
Will ba book a mileage flight that shows up only on Aa mileage and if yes, if any level on Aa will fine for them to give it?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on February 12, 2015, 02:46:11 AM
Will ba book a mileage flight that shows up only on Aa mileage and if yes, if any level on Aa will fine for them to give it?

BA can only book AA saver flights. Their lowest tier.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: normaly2345 on February 12, 2015, 03:05:06 AM
If only that was possible . . .

BA can only book AA saver flights. Their lowest tier.
Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: maxmiles on February 17, 2015, 01:49:10 PM
Question, Im not so familiar with AA/US-If i pay for a flight, does AA/US let you upgrade with miles?
Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nobiggy on February 17, 2015, 01:50:13 PM
Question, Im not so familiar with AA/US-If i pay for a flight, does AA/US let you upgrade with miles?
Thanks
If you are flying a paid ticket it's usually Miles + cash.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: maxmiles on February 17, 2015, 01:54:56 PM
If you are flying a paid ticket it's usually Miles + cash.
Thanks!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on February 24, 2015, 05:25:22 PM
trying to book VIE-GIB on British with stopover in LHR, but AA dosent give me this route, why?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jameswacht on February 24, 2015, 10:32:51 PM
is it normal that for a one way award from Europe(LHR) surcharges would be $188? any way to get around it????
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: @Yehuda on February 24, 2015, 10:35:36 PM
is it normal that for a one way award from Europe(LHR) surcharges would be $188? any way to get around it????
Yes, UK taxes. It's slightly cheaper if you don't fly on BA.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Ergel on February 24, 2015, 10:37:06 PM
Yes, UK taxes. It's slightly cheaper much more expensive if you don't fly on BA.
FTFY
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: maxmiles on February 26, 2015, 11:26:52 AM
Question, i have a little bit of a funky idea, wondering if this would work. I have 2 vouchers of buy one and get the next two for $99 that expire end of 2015. I would really like to use these in January 2016. What i was thinking is to buy the tickets for 2015, then upgrade it to a higher class with Points and cash, and then call up to switch the dates on the tickets. Anyone ever hear of something like this? Think it would work?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: keemster26 on March 04, 2015, 01:02:37 AM
I'm trying to see if their is availability on a flight. I'm on my phone on desktop version of aa.com. For some reason it doesn't let me put in the date I want to fly!? Any suggestions? Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on March 04, 2015, 02:56:59 AM
I'm trying to see if their is availability on a flight. I'm on my phone on desktop version of aa.com. For some reason it doesn't let me put in the date I want to fly!? Any suggestions? Thanks
Try this link.
http://www.aa.com/reservation/awardFlightSearchOptionsSubmit.do
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: keemster26 on March 04, 2015, 03:19:41 AM
Try this link.
http://www.aa.com/reservation/awardFlightSearchOptionsSubmit.do
It worked. Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yuguy on March 06, 2015, 10:00:38 AM
I know that AA doesn't display JAL availability, you search BA and then have to call and have AA book--so the BA calendar goes more than 11 months out--even when calling in AA, can you give them a flight date more than 11 months out?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on March 06, 2015, 10:07:42 AM
You are restricted by the schedule of the carrier whose miles you are using.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yuguy on March 06, 2015, 10:14:28 AM
You are restricted by the schedule of the carrier whose miles you are using.

Aw, okay--thanks!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on March 08, 2015, 09:12:51 AM
I can see for this month AA off peak 40k tlv-nyc .
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on March 08, 2015, 09:36:24 AM
Where is the stopover?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on March 08, 2015, 09:44:59 AM
Where is the stopover?
Lhr
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on March 08, 2015, 10:19:51 AM
Lhr
Crazy surcharges ???
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yls2011 on March 09, 2015, 11:34:57 AM
I'm trying to book a TAM flight. I found J availability on BA website, but when I called AA to book, I was told only Y is available. Should I HUCA?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on March 09, 2015, 11:35:39 AM
I'm trying to book a TAM flight. I found J availability on BA website, but when I called AA to book, I was told only Y is available. Should I HUCA?

What date?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yls2011 on March 09, 2015, 11:39:26 AM
6/17 eze-gru 06:55-09:40 LA 4540
6/17 gru-mia 10:55- 18:10 JJ 8094
I just figured it out. the LAN flight is Y. No J available. It didn't show up as mixed cabin.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on March 09, 2015, 11:42:51 AM
6/17 eze-gru 06:55-09:40 LA 4540
6/17 gru-mia 10:55- 18:10 JJ 8094

The JJ flight has 6 seats; they should def be able to see it.

ETA: Just saw your edit.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yls2011 on March 10, 2015, 10:56:42 AM
Data point- not sure if this is public knowledge. I have been back and forth with AA regarding pricing and award ticket- it keeps reverting to a higher amount. Last time I called, I asked if they can possibly pull up my record so I don't need to reexplain the whole issue, and the rep pulled up records of all past past conversations regarding this itinerary.

Something to think about when HUCAing, it might change how you approach the agent...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jaywhy on March 10, 2015, 12:31:03 PM
Data point- not sure if this is public knowledge. I have been back and forth with AA regarding pricing and award ticket- it keeps reverting to a higher amount. Last time I called, I asked if they can possibly pull up my record so I don't need to reexplain the whole issue, and the rep pulled up records of all past past conversations regarding this itinerary.

Something to think about when HUCAing, it might change how you approach the agent...
Of course. When they pull up the pnr, they can see all conversations you had, assuming the rep took notes.
The way around it is to bury the notes you don't want seen with other inane notes.  ;)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on March 10, 2015, 03:08:28 PM
Just double checking:

My mother booked a PHL-TLV business class seat using AA miles on USAirways. If she's actually coming from NYC and wants to bring three bags without paying for extra fees, her two (best) options are:

a) pay the $150 change fee to add the NYC-PHL leg.

b) book a separate one-way business Avios ticket for 9k?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on March 10, 2015, 03:22:09 PM
Just double checking:

My mother booked a PHL-TLV business class seat using AA miles on USAirways. If she's actually coming from NYC and wants to bring three bags without paying for extra fees, her two (best) options are:

a) pay the $150 change fee to add the NYC-PHL leg.

b) book a separate one-way business Avios ticket for 9k?
Book with BA.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on March 10, 2015, 03:24:52 PM
b) book a separate one-way business Avios ticket for 13.5k?
FTFY
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on March 10, 2015, 03:29:36 PM
Book with BA.
Thanks.
FTFY
You're adding the return PHL-JFK in Y?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on March 10, 2015, 03:35:10 PM
Thanks.  You're adding the return PHL-JFK in Y?
No - one way is 13.5k in J. On domestic 2 class flights, J is 3 times Y not 2 times Y.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on March 10, 2015, 03:38:18 PM
No - one way is 13.5k in J. On domestic 2 class flights, J is 3 times Y not 2 times Y.
Oh okay, thanks. Didn't know that.

So then it's $150 or 18k Avios (if she'll book the return in Y). Might be the $ is the better option.

Which sites send alerts if the flight times change at all (to try and talk out of the change fee)? ExpertFlyer?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yls2011 on March 16, 2015, 10:47:10 AM
Are miles debited from account only when reservation status changes to "purchased" or "ticketed"? The status of by booking is still on request and miles haven't yet been debited...
Also, I was told by the agent that it would be ticketed within 2-24 hours. Is has been 36 hours and still not ticketed. There are segments on partner airlines so I know it may take longer, but I assumed that it would just be closer to 24 hours than 2 hours?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: 159dallas on March 16, 2015, 12:09:11 PM
Is it possible to book a one way award on us airways through aa.com using us airways miles?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Centro on March 16, 2015, 12:14:42 PM
Is it possible to book a one way award on us airways through aa.com using us airways miles?
You can't book on AA.com with miles other then AA miles,

If this flight is for after the merger then you will be able to do so then.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on March 16, 2015, 05:52:01 PM
Is it possible to book a one way award on us airways through aa.com using us airways miles?
Anything bookable on AA.com with AA miles is bookable with US Air miles. If you can't do it on US Airs website then call. If you're lucky you might actually get someone on the phone.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Centro on March 16, 2015, 07:19:07 PM
Anything bookable on AA.com with AA miles is bookable with US Air miles. If you can't do it on US Airs website then call. If you're lucky you might actually get someone on the phone.
OW?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on March 16, 2015, 07:26:44 PM
OW?
Got me there. I don't read very well sometimes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: maxie m on March 16, 2015, 07:54:41 PM
Can us airways be booked with avios
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avromie7 on March 16, 2015, 08:02:45 PM
is there any way to continue holding a flight if there are currently no more award seats available
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on March 16, 2015, 08:35:13 PM
Can us airways be booked with avios
Wrong thread, but yes. You also might want to read this.

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/59617
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ilherman on March 16, 2015, 09:14:53 PM
Are miles debited from account only when reservation status changes to "purchased" or "ticketed"? The status of by booking is still on request and miles haven't yet been debited...
Also, I was told by the agent that it would be ticketed within 2-24 hours. Is has been 36 hours and still not ticketed. There are segments on partner airlines so I know it may take longer, but I assumed that it would just be closer to 24 hours than 2 hours?
They debit after ticketing. I called in to have a reservation ticketed 2 days ago and it is still on request.... ill call them up later or tomorrow.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: maxie m on March 16, 2015, 10:12:48 PM
Wrong thread, but yes. You also might want to read this.

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/59617
sorry, thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avromie7 on March 16, 2015, 11:14:07 PM
is there any way to continue holding a flight if there are currently no more award seats available
My points posted today before i lost my hold  :)

off to lhr next week
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on March 17, 2015, 03:34:31 AM
Trying to piece together an award flight TLV-HEL-JFK. AY (Finnair) has availability on the twice weekly TLV-HEL leg, but none at all (I searched all of April and October) on the daily HEL-JFK flight. Anyone have any experience on this leg, or some advice? Thanks!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ilherman on March 18, 2015, 12:27:42 AM
I pulled up my EY reservation booked with AA miles on the Etihad website and the following is showing up on top of the booking details. Is that standard because it is an AA ticket?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: shimbo on March 18, 2015, 01:56:12 PM
How can i get a cathay reservation number for a flight booked with AA miles?
TIA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jaywhy on March 18, 2015, 02:19:03 PM
How can i get a cathay reservation number for a flight booked with AA miles?
TIA
Call AA or CX.
AA usually gives it when you book it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on March 18, 2015, 02:25:20 PM
Trying to piece together an award flight TLV-HEL-JFK. AY (Finnair) has availability on the twice weekly TLV-HEL leg, but none at all (I searched all of April and October) on the daily HEL-JFK flight. Anyone have any experience on this leg, or some advice? Thanks!
I saw that award available a week and half ago, although it's a long lay over.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on March 18, 2015, 04:24:41 PM
I saw that award available a week and half ago, although it's a long lay over.
Thanks. I'll keep checking, although if it's long I guess it's probably not going to work anyway
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nobiggy on March 18, 2015, 06:17:29 PM
I booked an award ticket on EY and I have a short leg that I paid for which is on VS however I did all of this via AA. It was on request for 24 hours and I called in to see what's going on and they told me their is a system error. They rebooked it and said it should work this time.
Does this itinerary make sense that it can be booked?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: aradisc on March 18, 2015, 06:58:23 PM
I pulled up my EY reservation booked with AA miles on the Etihad website and the following is showing up on top of the booking details. Is that standard because it is an AA ticket?

I haven't booked EY using AA but I have seen very similar messages using AA miles on other partners. It basically just means that it can't display the value/receipt of the fare and let you change, cancel etc. using their website because it was booked and ticketed by another carrier's FF progam.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ilherman on March 18, 2015, 07:39:24 PM
I haven't booked EY using AA but I have seen very similar messages using AA miles on other partners. It basically just means that it can't display the value/receipt of the fare and let you change, cancel etc. using their website because it was booked and ticketed by another carrier's FF progam.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

BTW my AA receipt shows 0 miles paid. Does that make sense?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MEIR613 on March 18, 2015, 11:07:18 PM
I pulled up my EY reservation booked with AA miles on the Etihad website and the following is showing up on top of the booking details. Is that standard because it is an AA ticket?
Yes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ilherman on March 18, 2015, 11:17:02 PM
Yes.
THX.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MEIR613 on March 18, 2015, 11:18:45 PM
THX.
But if you can't check in online then you have problems, but I am sure you will know that beforehand ;)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ilherman on March 18, 2015, 11:20:00 PM
But if you can't check in online then you have problems, but I am sure you will know that beforehand ;)
You better hope that I can check-in.......
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on March 23, 2015, 08:51:07 AM
On a RT PHL-TLV-PHL flight: if I add a JFK-PHL leg and then cancel the TLV-PHL return, I'll just be charged one $150 change fee and receive half the miles back?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on March 23, 2015, 11:25:15 AM
Does anyone know if the mileage needed for an Israel flight using US Airways after the merger will be similar to the amount you needed for ElAl or for what US Air is currently asking. When I used mileage for ElAl business I believe it was under 300,000 for two tickets. US Airways is 310,000 for one ticket! Am I missing something here?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on March 23, 2015, 11:30:13 AM
Does anyone know if the mileage needed for an Israel flight using US Airways after the merger will be similar to the amount you needed for ElAl or for what US Air is currently asking. When I used mileage for ElAl business I believe it was under 300,000 for two tickets. US Airways is 310,000 for one ticket! Am I missing something here?
USAir currently is 120k (115k for card holders) Round trip. AA currently is and will still be post merger 67,500 OW. I am unclear where you are getting 310k from.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on March 23, 2015, 11:30:22 AM
Does anyone know if the mileage needed for an Israel flight using US Airways after the merger will be similar to the amount you needed for ElAl or for what US Air is currently asking. When I used mileage for ElAl business I believe it was under 300,000 for two tickets. US Airways is 310,000 for one ticket! Am I missing something here?
1. Elal is not bookable anymore with AA.
2. Usairways miles will become AA miles in the near future.
(So the amount will be same as AA 67.5k one way)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on March 23, 2015, 11:55:42 AM
1. Elal is not bookable anymore with AA.
2. Usairways miles will become AA miles in the near future.
(So the amount will be same as AA 67.5k one way)
I know about ElAl. That's why I checked with US Air. If they take on the AA numbers, as you say, that will be great. Do you happen to know when I'll be able to make reservations? I hope by the time they merge it won't be too late to get a June trip.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on March 23, 2015, 11:58:20 AM
I know about ElAl. That's why I checked with US Air. If they take on the AA numbers, as you say, that will be great. Do you happen to know when I'll be able to make reservations? I hope by the time they merge it won't be too late to get a June trip.
You already can book US Airways flights with AA miles. Not sure what your trying to do.
If you're seeing two flights for 310k miles, it's probably an Anytime award, not Saver
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on March 23, 2015, 12:45:14 PM
You already can book US Airways flights with AA miles. Not sure what your trying to do.
If you're seeing two flights for 310k miles, it's probably an Anytime award, not Saver
That's weird. I called AA and they said it was only ElAl. I'll try again. What I'm trying to do is get a business class flight to Israel at the end of June IYH. Using AA miles.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on March 23, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
Called again. Yeah, that's what it is. There are no saver awards so it triples the miles. Guess I can't go.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on March 23, 2015, 01:22:20 PM
Called again. Yeah, that's what it is. There are no saver awards so it triples the miles. Guess I can't go.
Don't give up yet! Availability can change
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on March 23, 2015, 03:24:01 PM
Don't give up yet! Availability can change
I'll try to call often, but I doubt it. Plus I need two tickets.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jr611 on March 23, 2015, 03:38:19 PM
can someone book an award flight for me with their miles? sorry if this is a dumb question
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on March 23, 2015, 03:45:52 PM
I'll try to call often, but I doubt it. Plus I need two tickets.
Not worth calling every time. Learn how to search online. OneWorld searching tips: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21835.0
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on March 23, 2015, 03:46:52 PM
can someone book an award flight for me with their miles? sorry if this is a dumb question
Yes they can. Not a dumb question.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on March 23, 2015, 03:49:28 PM
I'll try to call often, but I doubt it. Plus I need two tickets.
Why call? Just search AA.com
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on March 23, 2015, 04:56:49 PM
Thanks. I don't know why I didn't think of the simple way. Anyway, I checked it out and there's nothing. I happened to look at a later date and Royal Jordanian was available!
I guess I'll check it online often. That's certainly easier than phone calls. But I doubt anything will change. Thanks for all your help.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on March 23, 2015, 06:53:47 PM
But I doubt anything will change.
Huh? Availability changes daily, even hourly.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on March 24, 2015, 04:39:45 PM
Huh? Availability changes daily, even hourly.
Really? OK will try often. Here I go....
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on March 24, 2015, 04:44:59 PM
Really? OK will try often. Here I go....
Check everyday and closer to the flight, check more frequently.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: WhiteWolf on March 26, 2015, 05:31:11 PM
Am i missing something or is there hardly any mile saver award tickets available on AA PHL to DEN.
I am trying to book with Avios. I only see availability for 10 days out. 2-3 days ago there was all green ;-)
 Hope the merger is not screwing things up even more!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on April 12, 2015, 08:01:59 PM
Flew from Munich-PHL today and seat recliner button was broken. Worth emailing customer service about it in hope of getting a voucher? Or will they not care and give me an apology that I don't care for?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yls2011 on April 12, 2015, 11:15:36 PM
Flew from Munich-PHL today and seat recliner button was broken. Worth emailing customer service about it in hope of getting a voucher? Or will they not care and give me an apology that I don't care for?
What do you have to lose by e-mailing? Was this in J or Y? If J, you definitely should expect compensation. If Y, it probably depends how well you write the letter.  ;)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on April 13, 2015, 09:15:49 AM
What do you have to lose by e-mailing? Was this in J or Y? If J, you definitely should expect compensation. If Y, it probably depends how well you write the letter.  ;)

I want to say it was a Y, but not 100% sure. Is looking at my boarding pass the only way to tell? Or is there another way?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on April 13, 2015, 10:08:42 AM
Boarding pass isn't always accurate. Take a look at your ticket.

If by ticket you mean my email confirmation from when I purchased the ticket, I don't see anything there. I bought the tickets on cheapoair.com and the email confirmation from them doesn't say anything.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on April 13, 2015, 10:13:28 AM
I want to say it was a Y, but not 100% sure. Is looking at my boarding pass the only way to tell? Or is there another way?
You don't know if you sat in Y (economy) or J (business)?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on April 13, 2015, 10:17:50 AM
You don't know if you sat in Y (economy) or J (business)?

My bad, thought the letters were referring to the fair rate that I've seen talked about here. I sat in economy.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on April 13, 2015, 10:22:15 AM
Anyone familiar with AA J NYC-LAX trends. Seems like there are almost never saver J seats for this route.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on April 13, 2015, 10:28:14 AM
Ive heard closer to the flight it gets better. Thats What I heard.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on April 13, 2015, 10:40:11 AM
Ive heard closer to the flight it gets better. Thats What I heard.
I know for F, that happens. Haven't seen it this week for J.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on April 13, 2015, 10:55:39 AM
Anyone familiar with AA J NYC-LAX trends. Seems like there are almost never saver J seats for this route.
J is tougher than F on this route.

Its easier to find when its a few months out.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on April 13, 2015, 11:02:36 AM
J is tougher than F on this route.

Its easier to find when its a few months out.
Thanks.

After flying in F, i think J is very similar and less miles.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yls2011 on April 13, 2015, 11:42:26 AM
J is tougher than F on this route.

Its easier to find when its a few months out.

I've been looking for a LAX-JFK opening in J from 3 months out, nothing yet. They are getting stingier.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on April 13, 2015, 02:07:20 PM
J saver on the route appears at a very small fraction at which F appears.

And, no, I wouldn't count on it opening close-in.

Just view the 7.5K premium as a relatively small amount to get flagship check-in--which is actually wonderful--increased availability, a larger seat, a nominally better service.

Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on April 13, 2015, 02:07:57 PM
J saver on the route appears at a very small fraction at which F appears.

And, no, I wouldn't count on it opening close-in.

Just view the 7.5K premium as a relatively small amount to get flagship check-in--which is actually wonderful--increased availability, a larger seat, a nominally better service.
I guess with my surplus of AA miles, it is not too bad.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: LoLo on April 13, 2015, 07:41:17 PM
Booking lon-nyc, they're charging for infant same amount of miles as an adult, am I missing something?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: LoLo on April 13, 2015, 07:46:44 PM
Booking lon-nyc, they're charging for infant same amount of miles as an adult, am I missing something?
Should I just tell them about the infant at check in?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on April 13, 2015, 07:49:17 PM
It should be 10% of the fare cost. Nothing more. HUCA if need be
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: LoLo on April 13, 2015, 07:51:45 PM
It should be 10% of the fare cost. Nothing more. HUCA if need be
I'm booking online, so i shouldn't book a ticket for the infant, and just tell them at check in?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on April 13, 2015, 09:02:02 PM
After booking call it in. Unless u want your infant to have their own seat... That will be full price
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: LoLo on April 13, 2015, 09:39:34 PM
After booking call it in. Unless u want your infant to have their own seat... That will be full price
Done, thanks for the help.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: LoLo on April 13, 2015, 11:55:13 PM
Anything to avoid $75 award processing fee?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on April 13, 2015, 11:58:42 PM
If your flight is within the US book with BA, otherwise NO
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: LoLo on April 14, 2015, 12:07:42 AM
If your flight is within the US book with BA, otherwise NO
  Tnx
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on April 14, 2015, 02:35:31 AM
Booked US saver business award TLV-PHL-NYC with AA miles (Booked during the availability glitch). My wife is sick  and we will need to push off the flights a day or 2. Problem is there is no saver space only anytime space in business on that route any time soon.

Is there anyway to get AA to open up saver for me on a flight the next day or 2?

I am on phone with agent first call she is saying has to be available in saver and is searching for space for past 20 min with no luck
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: IsraelGuy on April 14, 2015, 03:34:31 AM

Booked US saver business award TLV-PHL-NYC with AA miles (Booked during the availability glitch). My wife is sick  and we will need to push off the flights a day or 2. Problem is there is no saver space only anytime space in business on that route any time soon.

Is there anyway to get AA to open up saver for me on a flight the next day or 2?

I am on phone with agent first call she is saying has to be available in saver and is searching for space for past 20 min with no luck

Probably not. Unless you see the space on AA.com, they're not going to open it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on April 14, 2015, 03:36:04 AM
Probably not. Unless you see the space on AA.com, they're not going to open it.
Is there any chance showing up at airport next day saying we couldn't make flight day before bc in hospital and try to get on flight or no shot
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: IsraelGuy on April 14, 2015, 03:52:02 AM

Is there any chance showing up at airport next day saying we couldn't make flight day before bc in hospital and try to get on flight or no shot

From what I've seen arranging before will always have better results than showing up after a missed flight- maybe calling and saying wife is in hospital won't be able to go and seeing if they refund the miles free + rebooking with available space, but I don't know any other options :/
Maybe someone else can chime in who might know.

Refuah sheleimah to the Mrs.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on April 14, 2015, 08:47:56 AM
Is there any chance showing up at airport next day saying we couldn't make flight day before bc in hospital and try to get on flight or no shot
Be proactive and call before your flight. Don't wait until after.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on April 14, 2015, 01:46:15 PM
Be proactive and call before your flight. Don't wait until after.

I did call but since no avil in saver they are not helpful
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jaywhy on April 14, 2015, 02:15:53 PM
I did call but since no avil in saver they are not helpful
HUCA.
A doctor's note might help.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on April 14, 2015, 02:35:04 PM
Took a flight (economy class) from TLV to MUN on Air Berlin, but only got 411 AA miles for the flight. Anyone have any idea why? In case it matters, ticket was purchased on cheapoair.com.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on April 14, 2015, 06:21:39 PM
What do you have to lose by e-mailing? Was this in J or Y? If J, you definitely should expect compensation. If Y, it probably depends how well you write the letter.  ;)

Emailed them, and got an apology but no voucher  :'( . Feel like they don't ever give anything to anyone sitting in economy.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on April 14, 2015, 06:42:40 PM
Took a flight (economy class) from TLV to MUN on Air Berlin, but only got 411 AA miles for the flight. Anyone have any idea why? In case it matters, ticket was purchased on cheapoair.com.
What was the fare class?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on April 14, 2015, 06:49:20 PM
What was the fare class?

According to the boarding pass and what it says on my AA account summary, it was a Y.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on April 14, 2015, 06:54:33 PM
According to the boarding pass and what it says on my AA account summary, it was a Y.
1. I don't believe Air Berlin even flies to MUN, do you mean MUC?
2. You sure the fare class is Y, maybe it was N, Q, O, G, P, E, W - which only have a 25% millage accrual?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on April 14, 2015, 07:13:54 PM
1. I don't believe Air Berlin even flies to MUN, do you mean MUC?
2. You sure the fare class is Y, maybe it was N, Q, O, G, P, E, W - which only have a 25% millage accrual?
Ab has a route from tlv-muc.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on April 14, 2015, 07:28:48 PM
Ab has a route from tlv-muc.
OP wrote MUN not MUC
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on April 14, 2015, 07:38:41 PM
OP wrote MUN not MUC
True
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yls2011 on April 14, 2015, 09:04:01 PM
Emailed them, and got an apology but no voucher  :'( . Feel like they don't ever give anything to anyone sitting in economy.
Definitely harder with economy since the broken recliner doesn't have as much of an effect. But I've had success after pushing back in a second e-mail.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on April 14, 2015, 09:08:38 PM
1. I don't believe Air Berlin even flies to MUN, do you mean MUC?
2. You sure the fare class is Y, maybe it was N, Q, O, G, P, E, W - which only have a 25% millage accrual?

I meant MUC. I think it was Y. How can I know for sure that it wasn't N, Q, O, G, P, E, or W?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on April 14, 2015, 09:09:48 PM
Definitely harder with economy since the broken recliner doesn't have as much of an effect. But I've had success after pushing back in a second e-mail.

I even played the pregnant wife card, but no success. Bunch of cold-hearted...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on April 14, 2015, 10:11:28 PM
I meant MUC. I think it was Y. How can I know for sure that it wasn't N, Q, O, G, P, E, or W?
By looking at your itinerary/ticket.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on April 14, 2015, 10:14:09 PM
By looking at your itinerary/ticket.

Just looked at my boarding pass and it says "Class: O"

Well that's annoying
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on April 16, 2015, 02:32:12 PM
So we got spoiled a bit since our last two trips to Israel from NY using AA miles on ElAl. We went business class and really don't want to go back to cattle class. Now that AA doesn't use ElAl anymore our options for a business class flight are very limited. I think the only one we found was on Jordanian Airlines - we'll pass on that. My question is, I heard that coach on ElAl is the worst. Does anyone have a recommendation on better coach seats on a better airline so we can search for saver fares in coach that we would be more comfortable with? We prefer business but there are no saver awards for when we want to go (end of June).
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dave A on April 16, 2015, 03:42:17 PM
So we got spoiled a bit since our last two trips to Israel from NY using AA miles on ElAl. We went business class and really don't want to go back to cattle class. Now that AA doesn't use ElAl anymore our options for a business class flight are very limited. I think the only one we found was on Jordanian Airlines - we'll pass on that. My question is, I heard that coach on ElAl is the worst. Does anyone have a recommendation on better coach seats on a better airline so we can search for saver fares in coach that we would be more comfortable with? We prefer business but there are no saver awards for when we want to go (end of June).

I'm also looking for end of June and found lots of Business saver awards (50k) on AA's award website (thru London).   Where are you going from?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on April 16, 2015, 04:39:43 PM
I'm also looking for end of June and found lots of Business saver awards (50k) on AA's award website (thru London).   Where are you going from?
WHAT!! I put in NYC to TLV and it didn't have anything. 50K??? Something doesn't make sense here. I thought the "cheapest" miles was 67. Tell me more. Best is JFK. I live in Flatbush but I can dop other airports. Just want Business or better (for the two of us).
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dr Moose on April 16, 2015, 04:41:25 PM
when you have only 31 posts you tend to make mistakes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on April 16, 2015, 04:53:20 PM
Maybe I'm doing this wrong. I go to aa.com and pick NYC to TLV. Does that only give me direct flights? I thought it would give me all possibilities. Do I have to know to pick NY to London and then London to ny, etc.? Anybody know?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on April 16, 2015, 04:55:20 PM
Maybe I'm doing this wrong. I go to aa.com and pick NYC to TLV. Does that only give me direct flights? I thought it would give me all possibilities. Do I have to know to pick NY to London and then London to ny, etc.? Anybody know?
AA.com will not give you any direct flights from NYC-TLV.

The only direct flight from the U.S. it will give you is PHL-TLV.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on April 16, 2015, 05:02:10 PM
How come if I do round trip I don't get offered to go through London with a saver award, but when I choose muli city I do??
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dave A on April 16, 2015, 05:28:43 PM
WHAT!! I put in NYC to TLV and it didn't have anything. 50K??? Something doesn't make sense here. I thought the "cheapest" miles was 67. Tell me more. Best is JFK. I live in Flatbush but I can dop other airports. Just want Business or better (for the two of us).

when you have only 31 posts you tend to make mistakes

Yes, my mistake. I was talking about NYC-LHR (I'm also looking for tix and was breaking up the trip that way).  From there you can get a relatively cheap award flight to TLV, from what I understand. 

And thanks Dr. Moose - a kind soul, you are.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 16, 2015, 05:31:32 PM
Yes, my mistake. I was talking about NYC-LHR (I'm also looking for tix and was breaking up the trip that way).  From there you can get a relatively cheap award flight to TLV, from what I understand. 

And thanks Dr. Moose - a kind soul, you are.
I don't think so. From what I understand, most (all?) flights leaving LHR have high exit taxes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dave A on April 16, 2015, 05:36:38 PM
I don't think so. From what I understand, most (all?) flights leaving LHR have high exit taxes.

Where's one of the better stopover airports in Europe with lower fees?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on April 16, 2015, 06:04:42 PM
So how exactly do I do this thing to see all the ways of getting there? Round trip doesn't seem to do it
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on April 16, 2015, 06:08:47 PM
So how exactly do I do this thing to see all the ways of getting there? Round trip doesn't seem to do it
That would be impossible.

There are, quite literally, infinite possibilities to how you route and how long you stopover.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on April 16, 2015, 06:12:07 PM
In that case, what's the best route to take from NY to TLV that might have saver award availability? Or is that like anyone's guess
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on April 16, 2015, 06:12:31 PM
So we got spoiled a bit since our last two trips to Israel from NY using AA miles on ElAl. We went business class and really don't want to go back to cattle class. Now that AA doesn't use ElAl anymore our options for a business class flight are very limited. I think the only one we found was on Jordanian Airlines - we'll pass on that. My question is, I heard that coach on ElAl is the worst. Does anyone have a recommendation on better coach seats on a better airline so we can search for saver fares in coach that we would be more comfortable with? We prefer business but there are no saver awards for when we want to go (end of June).

Prefer business to TLV? You should rethink Royal Jordanian. I personally wouldn't hesitate to fly them.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: lunatic on April 16, 2015, 06:51:55 PM
Prefer business to TLV? You should rethink Royal Jordanian. I personally wouldn't hesitate to fly them.

I know that it is only once,  but lucky's story is freaky
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on April 16, 2015, 06:53:18 PM
I know that it is only once,  but lucky's story is freaky

What story?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: aradisc on April 16, 2015, 07:05:09 PM
What story?

http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2013/03/30/my-royal-jordanian-flight-from-hell/
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on April 16, 2015, 07:48:06 PM
I know that it is only once,  but lucky's story is freaky
IMO he overplayed that story more than that girl with that transaero flight that be was bashing
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on April 16, 2015, 07:57:04 PM
I know that it is only once,  but lucky's story is freaky

Could happen to any airline. Not a reason to avoid them going forward; or at least not anymore than one would avoid EK or EY.

IMO he overplayed that story more than that girl with that transaero flight that be was bashing

Zing.

Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SrulyP on April 16, 2015, 08:09:19 PM
I am trying to book jfk to lax in First DIRECT and running into an issue. AA seems to only open up 1 award seat per plane on this route. Is it worth it to book the one i can get and then just wait? does anyone have any experience with this?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on April 16, 2015, 08:10:04 PM
I am trying to book jfk to lax in First and running into an issue. AA seems to only open up 1 award seat per plane on this route. Is it worth it to book the one i can get and then just wait? does anyone have any experience with this?

They open 2 close-in.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SrulyP on April 16, 2015, 08:11:39 PM
They open 2 close-in.

how close?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on April 16, 2015, 09:19:13 PM
how close?

Stuff starts happening a week or so out. But maybe a bit closer.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ual902 on April 17, 2015, 12:30:20 AM
Stuff starts happening a week or so out. But maybe a bit closer.

Coach  also opens 2 close-in?

If I book before 21 days, can I change dates and times without a fee on award tickets JFK-LAX?.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on April 17, 2015, 01:18:30 AM
Coach  also opens 2 close-in?

If I book before 21 days, can I change dates and times without a fee on award tickets JFK-LAX?.
If you change within 21 days of the new flight you will have to pay the $75 fee, unless you already paid it.

In other words, once you pay it, you can still change without additional fees.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 17, 2015, 10:39:09 AM
1) If you cancel an award ticket, does it go back into inventory?
2) How soon?
3) Does that change if it was booked with BA?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: thaber on April 17, 2015, 11:24:42 AM
1) If you cancel an award ticket, does it go back into inventory?
2) How soon?
3) Does that change if it was booked with BA?
My understanding is that there is a big YMMV  with this.  No guarantees
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on April 17, 2015, 11:34:15 AM
1) If you cancel an award ticket, does it go back into inventory?
2) How soon?
3) Does that change if it was booked with BA?
My understanding is that there is a big YMMV  with this.  No guarantees
+1

1) & 2) If it does it will be instant.
3) No
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 17, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
Thanks guys! Not sure if I take the risk...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on April 17, 2015, 03:56:02 PM
Thanks guys! Not sure if I take the risk...
The further out the flight, the less risk IME.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on April 18, 2015, 09:34:25 PM
Is the following a valid routing to be booked with AA:
AMM-DXB-JFK (on EY) -LAX (on AA)?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on April 18, 2015, 09:39:59 PM
Is the following a valid routing to be booked with AA:
AMM-DXB-JFK (on EY) -LAX (on AA)?
I think so, they have code share flights iinm.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: thaber on April 19, 2015, 01:44:54 AM
Have a quandary on behalf of a family member. Was scheduled to fly JFK-LAX on a 12.5K award ticket on Tuesday. Thought they had to be back Monday so changed to a 30K ticket, they charged her the extra miles but no fees.
Now she wants to revert to the original Tuesday ticket, but they're telling her that either it'll be $150, or the full 30K. there are 12.5K tickets available.
Any recommendations?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on April 19, 2015, 01:56:13 AM
Have a quandary on behalf of a family member. Was scheduled to fly JFK-LAX on a 12.5K award ticket on Tuesday. Thought they had to be back Monday so changed to a 30K ticket, they charged her the extra miles but no fees.
Now she wants to revert to the original Tuesday ticket, but they're telling her that either it'll be $150, or the full 30K. there are 12.5K tickets available.
Any recommendations?
Since they already deducted the extra miles for the 30k ticket, they either have to pay the $150 redeposited fee or eat the difference.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: thaber on April 19, 2015, 02:01:36 AM
Since they already deducted the extra miles for the 30k ticket, they either have to pay the $150 redeposited fee or eat the difference.
Was afraid of that. Is there an option to hold that leg for some future time and book a new ticket?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: thaber on April 19, 2015, 02:11:50 AM
55 min estimated hold time. WTH? Is there only one person there answering phones?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on April 19, 2015, 02:58:59 AM
Is the following a valid routing to be booked with AA:
AMM-DXBAUH-JFK (on EY) -LAX (on AA)?

ftfy

Yes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on April 19, 2015, 09:00:23 AM
ftfy

Yes.
Thanks!

Stupid auto correct did that DXB/AUH mess up!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on April 19, 2015, 09:02:58 AM
If I book AMM-AUH-JFK-LAX and AUH-LAX direct on EY opens up, I can change it for free, correct?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on April 19, 2015, 09:03:59 AM
If I book AMM-AUH-JFK-LAX and AUH-LAX opens up, I can change it for free, correct?
IME yes. As long as your departing arriving same airport.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: thaber on April 19, 2015, 10:26:21 AM
Have a quandary on behalf of a family member. Was scheduled to fly JFK-LAX on a 12.5K award ticket on Tuesday. Thought they had to be back Monday so changed to a 30K ticket, they charged her the extra miles but no fees.
Now she wants to revert to the original Tuesday ticket, but they're telling her that either it'll be $150, or the full 30K. there are 12.5K tickets available.
Any recommendations?
As a data point,  they waived the $150, only had to pay the $5.60,without me even asking. 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on April 19, 2015, 10:30:57 AM
As a data point,  they waived the $150, only had to pay the $5.60,without me even asking. 
Nice. How? HUCA? Supervisor?

The $5.60 from the cancelled itin will be refunded.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: thaber on April 19, 2015, 10:33:58 AM
Nice. How? HUCA? Supervisor?
She wasn't able to process the redeposit for some reason,  and called her help desk.  When she came back on she told me that they just cancelled the second leg and rebooked it,  so they waived the $150.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: voldemort on April 19, 2015, 11:24:06 AM



The $5.60 from the cancelled itin will be refunded.
IME the taxes don't get refunded automatically. I got the redeposit fee waived on a canceled ticket but the taxes weren't returned,When I called they said since the taxes were less than $150 they assumed I would rather lose the taxes than the redeposit fee.
They were happy to refund the taxes as well,it just didn't happen by itself. 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ual902 on April 20, 2015, 12:30:27 AM
If I book an award  on AA JFK > LAX and I don't want to fly, I can route the flight for a later date via cities which are  known for cancellations so I can get my miles redeposited without a fee, what Destinations would have cancellations or route changes from after June? MIA \ The South  Hurricane season? any other Idea with known cancellation flights?.

 Side note is JFK > LAX worth the new F for 32K? decisions!!!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on April 20, 2015, 12:32:30 AM
Side note is JFK > LAX worth the new F for 32K? decisions!!!

Best way to fly transcon short of routing via YVR.

Definitely worth the 7.5K premium over UA 752 P.S.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on April 20, 2015, 12:42:39 AM
Its 17.5k with LH on UA. 32.5 AA vs 17.5 via LH & its not that close IMO. Just sayin
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ual902 on April 20, 2015, 12:55:59 AM
Best way to fly transcon short of routing via YVR.

Definitely worth the 7.5K premium over UA 752 P.S.

you mean CX F JFK > YVR?

Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on April 20, 2015, 12:59:21 AM
Its 17.5k with LH on UA. 32.5 AA vs 17.5 via LH & its not that close IMO. Just sayin

Good luck finding biz availability JFK-LAX with LH miles.

But if you did, I personally would not spring for AA F. UA Biz is good enough.

you mean CX F JFK > YVR?

I do.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ual902 on April 20, 2015, 01:07:30 AM
Good luck finding biz availability JFK-LAX with LH miles.

But if you did, I personally would not spring for AA F. UA Biz is good enough.

I do.

What  miles do use YVR > LAX?

I also have 20K SQ KF  from the life lock deal.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on April 20, 2015, 01:19:01 AM
What  miles do use YVR > LAX?

I also have 20K SQ KF  from the life lock deal.

AA/AS/DL/UA/SQ/LH etc.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ual902 on April 20, 2015, 01:28:28 AM
AA/AS/DL/UA/SQ/LH etc.

You have to sleep over in YVR @ a hotel? = More  points for Hotels etc.. since CX arrives YVR @ 0045
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on April 20, 2015, 09:51:35 AM
Probably easier to do the reverse routing.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 20, 2015, 10:29:05 AM
Good luck finding biz availability JFK-LAX with LH miles.
+1
I also believe that LH miles are over hyped for their basically 2 good uses (LAX and HNL) unless you are ready to wait till last minute to book.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: aryeh1 on April 20, 2015, 12:30:22 PM
If saver award is available on AA.com for 12.5k from CLT LGA , is it supposed to be available on BA for 4500 points?
I don't see it? Would I be able to get it by calling?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on April 20, 2015, 12:37:38 PM
If saver award is available on AA.com for 12.5k from CLT LGA , is it supposed to be available on BA for 4500 points?
I don't see it? Would I be able to get it by calling?

Yes. PUTPAC
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ckmk47 on April 20, 2015, 12:41:21 PM
If saver award is available on AA.com for 12.5k from CLT LGA , is it supposed to be available on BA for 4500 points?
I don't see it? Would I be able to get it by calling?
yes. yes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SrulyP on April 20, 2015, 10:31:12 PM

Good luck finding biz availability JFK-LAX with LH miles.

But if you did, I personally would not spring for AA F. UA Biz is good enough.

I do.

UA biz is lie flat seating on JFK to lax route? And if yes, is all their flights or only certain ones?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on April 20, 2015, 11:10:43 PM
UA biz is lie flat seating on JFK to lax route? And if yes, is all their flights or only certain ones?
All flights on JFK-LAX route.

Only certain ones on EWR-LAX route.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: EandN on April 21, 2015, 03:01:58 AM
Is there a workaround to change my BA reference # for a domestic awards flight on AA to an AA reference # so i can get a free bag?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on April 21, 2015, 06:50:03 AM
Is there a workaround to change my BA reference # for a domestic awards flight on AA to an AA reference # so i can get a free bag?
You can do it directly on AA's website, if that doesn't work, use the Finnair trick.

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/59617

Scroll down to where it says: Adding an American AAdvantage or USAirways number to your Avios reservation:
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: LoLo on April 23, 2015, 12:18:19 AM
whats american's policy regarding canceling award reservation within 24 hours of booking, but also within 24 hours of flight?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on April 23, 2015, 12:22:37 AM
whats american's policy regarding canceling award reservation within 24 hours of booking, but also within 24 hours of flight?
CMIIW but since AA allows holds on awards, you can never cancel without a fee (officially) at any time.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: LoLo on April 23, 2015, 12:30:58 AM
CMIIW but since AA allows holds on awards, you can never cancel without a fee (officially) at any time.
you are correct, rep just told me that there are no refunds on award reservations without a fee. (though she may not know what she's talking about, she sounded sleepy too..).
Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: EandN on April 24, 2015, 02:32:51 AM
thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hatastah on April 26, 2015, 05:39:46 PM
How many miles would a BKK-ICN flight cost?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on April 26, 2015, 08:42:05 PM
How many miles would a BKK-ICN flight cost?
Class?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hatastah on April 26, 2015, 08:42:33 PM

Class?
Y
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jaywhy on April 27, 2015, 03:38:16 AM
Y
It's 20k.
It's easier/faster to simply pull the chart and look it up yourself :)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hatastah on April 27, 2015, 03:39:23 AM

It's 20k.
It's easier/faster to simply pull the chart and look it up yourself :)
:) if I only knew where to look.. I checked AA.com and figured out real quick you can't find availability on their site 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on April 27, 2015, 03:49:59 AM
:) if I only knew where to look.. I checked AA.com and figured out real quick you can't find availability on their site 
You could google "AA award chart" and see how much it costs even without any current availability.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on April 27, 2015, 07:42:13 AM
If I'm booked on one airline can I switch it to a different airline (keeping the same origin and destination) free of charge?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mmm740 on April 27, 2015, 08:15:13 AM
If I'm booked on one airline can I switch it to a different airline (keeping the same origin and destination) free of charge?
Yes, If both Airlines are OW.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on April 27, 2015, 08:28:44 AM
Yes, If both Airlines are OW.
And if they are a partner but not OW?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mmm740 on April 27, 2015, 08:30:11 AM
And if they are a partner but not OW?
Not sure.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: harrym on April 27, 2015, 08:52:49 PM
And if they are a partner but not OW?
$150
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: itsyehuda on May 01, 2015, 12:38:31 AM
Wow. AA auto canceled a reservation of mine because they called it a duplicate reservation - by their estimation due to having the one, I couldn't possibly make the other. (I could, but it's reeeally close)

They are giving me a hard time about reinstating the reservation. I was not expecting it, and they cancelled the flight that I need. The flight they left does not work with the rest of the travel plans.

With United I've had multiple seats on the same flight and they don't cancel.

I'm in trouble if they won't do this for me.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: itsyehuda on May 01, 2015, 12:56:15 AM
So get this: they gave it back to me, but only because the agent had spelled one passenger's name wrong on the original reservation, and that passenger didn't cancel.

But if not for that I was toast!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on May 06, 2015, 07:44:11 AM
You can request that AA open up space on a domestic leg when booking an international award ticket.

Any recent success stories?

(want to know how many times I should HUCA before I give up :) )
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on May 06, 2015, 10:41:09 AM
What is the redeposit policy?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yls2011 on May 06, 2015, 12:28:43 PM
Any recent success stories?

(want to know how many times I should HUCA before I give up :) )
I've tried twice recently to no avail (It's possible I wasn't pushy enough). I received flat denials each time.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: 159dallas on May 06, 2015, 07:03:24 PM
AA charges a fee for canceling an award flight it is 150. Does that apply for within 24hrs as well? I know that a payed a flight is refundable within 24hrs but what about an award flight?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on May 06, 2015, 08:02:14 PM
AA charges a fee for canceling an award flight it is 150. Does that apply for within 24hrs as well? I know that a payed a flight is refundable within 24hrs but what about an award flight?

Yes.

Incorrect.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: 159dallas on May 06, 2015, 08:09:36 PM
So what you are saying is that an AA award can not be cancelled with in 24hrs for a refund right?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on May 06, 2015, 09:01:50 PM
Correct.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yordai Dooma on May 06, 2015, 11:27:43 PM
So what you are saying is that an AA award can not be cancelled with in 24hrs for a refund right?


Correct.
I believe if the flight is within 7 days, and there is no option to hold the award, they will allow you to cancel within 24 hours of ticketing.

Data point : Last week i was on the phone with AA wanting to put an international award ticket on hold. The flights were NOT on AA metal. They told me that because the flight was in less than 7 days i could not do so...They advised me to book and cancel within 24 hours. I did book it, and did cancel it within 24 hours. I don't know the exact criteria but it may be worth calling if the flight you are looking at is within 7 days
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on May 06, 2015, 11:30:35 PM
You can hold AA flights within 7 days too.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yordai Dooma on May 06, 2015, 11:57:14 PM
You can hold AA flights within 7 days too.
True. I don't know what criteria was not allowing me to hold the flight. It was for the next day and it was not on AA metal. After i booked, i called back again to confirm (i couldn't believe it) and the rep confirmed it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ilherman on May 07, 2015, 09:37:43 AM
$150
-1?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on May 07, 2015, 12:58:05 PM
-1?

He is wrong (personal experience)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on May 08, 2015, 09:14:58 AM
I currently have EY  JFK-AUH-MLE RT on hold expiring tomorrow night. Since it is two awards, it is prices as 215k AA pp.

First question: I land on the 8th at 12:30 PM and depart on the 9th at 9:30 AM going from F to Y. Will i get lounge access before the second flight?

If yes, will i lose that access if i break the reservation up (may need to do that since my wife's points will only post after the hold is up.

Would i be able to get AA to extend the hold. If not, if i cancel will the flights show immediately so i can ask them to put the same flights on hold again?

TIA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: a mirrer on May 08, 2015, 09:32:21 AM
Would i be able to get AA to extend the hold.
gary says that not
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2015/04/22/two-simple-mistakes-that-could-ruin-your-next-award-ticket-and-how-to-avoid-them/
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 08, 2015, 12:58:02 PM
Is there a way to see how many award tickets AA has available like united expert mode ? they only let you book up to 6 award seats at a time.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on May 08, 2015, 07:23:01 PM
Is there a way to see how many award tickets AA has available like united expert mode ? they only let you book up to 6 award seats at a time.
How many are you looking for? You can try BA.com- that usually says how many seats are left IINM
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on May 09, 2015, 01:39:08 PM
Is there a way to see how many award tickets AA has available like united expert mode ? they only let you book up to 6 award seats at a time.

ExpertFlyer.com
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yitrap on May 09, 2015, 05:32:25 PM


Would i be able to get AA to extend the hold. If not, if i cancel will the flights show immediately so i can ask them to put the same flights on hold again?

TIA
From my limited knowledge I believe it comes back immediately, if you allow it to expire it'll become available right after midnight and you can re-hold it then
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on May 09, 2015, 09:16:49 PM
From my limited knowledge I believe it comes back immediately, if you allow it to expire it'll become available right after midnight and you can re-hold it then
Thanks. The points actually just posted and i won't need to drop my hold.
Title: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 09, 2015, 10:30:25 PM
How many are you looking for? You can try BA.com- that usually says how many seats are left IINM
ExpertFlyer.com
Thank you. Im looking for about 9 seats.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yordai Dooma on May 09, 2015, 10:37:55 PM
How many are you looking for? You can try BA.com- that usually says how many seats are left IINM
Ba will always show 7 whenever there are 7+ available
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: maxie m on May 10, 2015, 12:34:03 AM
Does aa get the same amount of availability on cx as ba does?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 10, 2015, 12:58:31 AM

Does aa get the same amount of availability on cx as ba does?

Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: maxie m on May 10, 2015, 01:05:49 AM
Yes
thanks ,wasn't sure, heard otherwise, also are there any ways to get around close in fees
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on May 10, 2015, 03:12:24 AM
No. The $75 needs to be paid.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: maxie m on May 10, 2015, 09:08:51 AM
No. The $75 needs to be paid.
thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on May 11, 2015, 10:48:06 AM
Would i have any luck emailing AA about getting a refund for a mispriced ticked (JFK-AUH-MLE they priced as two awards).

If yes, what would be the best email to send it to?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: leaf on May 11, 2015, 12:28:39 PM
From my limited knowledge I believe it comes back immediately, if you allow it to expire it'll become available right after midnight and you can re-hold it then
IME it may take longer with EY (maybe has to do with midnight in their time zone etc), but you should see it on EY website by the next morning. 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ADG on May 11, 2015, 08:30:14 PM
Award Calculation- If i were to use citi points to buy a $ ticket on AA how many miles per $? also will i earn CC miles or flying miles? If so it becomes a hard calculation...There should be a algorithm... TIA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on May 11, 2015, 09:15:18 PM
Award Calculation- If i were to use citi points to buy a $ ticket on AA how many miles per $? also will i earn CC miles or flying miles? If so it becomes a hard calculation...There should be a algorithm... TIA
Wrong thread.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ADG on May 12, 2015, 11:32:46 AM
Wrong thread.

could be...but i cant get an answer on the correct thread either...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yitrap on May 12, 2015, 12:08:08 PM
could be...but i cant get an answer on the correct thread either...
So you assumed on the wrong one you would??
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on May 12, 2015, 12:43:33 PM
I just called AA about my JFK-AUH-MLE flight.  I was charged as two awards 90k for F and 17.5k for the Y leg.

Y was the only thing open for my second leg and i do not believe they even fly F from AUH to MLE.

Per the AA partner award chart, it should be 90k all the way through to MLE. However, i was just told, the only way it will price as one way, is if flying the same class all the way through. Since i took a voluntary downgrade to Y, it prices as two awards, and even if i had J, since it is not the same class on both flights, it would be the same thing.

DROPR? Seems like she spoke to a couple of different departments.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on May 12, 2015, 12:45:42 PM
DROPR.

I've had F and J on same itin and it priced as 1 award not 2.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on May 12, 2015, 12:48:16 PM
DROPR.

I've had F and J on same itin and it priced as 1 award not 2.
So F to Y should not be any different.

IS there any department i can try and get in touch with that can help me more than CS. They kept putting me on hold to speak to people. Maybe if i can speak to someone directly...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: leaf on May 12, 2015, 01:04:30 PM
I've booked J and Y as one itinerary (on different Airlines) with AA award and it priced as one.  The agent did need to note that it was a voluntary downgrade in order to issue the ticket (on partner airline). Maybe they failed to do that in your case. 
The only other thing I can think of is that there is no F at all AUH - MLE, so the computer is not recognizing it as one itinerary.  But mixed cabin awards are par for the course. 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on May 12, 2015, 01:58:59 PM
With some help and encouragement from D93, it seems like i was able to get through to a rep and have them ticket (my flights weren't ticked yet) the routing at 90k.

Thanks for everyone's insight.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on May 12, 2015, 02:09:34 PM
With some help and encouragement from D93, it seems like i was able to get through to a rep and have them ticket (my flights weren't ticked yet) the routing at 90k.

Thanks for everyone's insight.

Awesome, happy to help :)

Please report back when it gets ticketed and how many miles were actually debited from your account.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on May 12, 2015, 02:12:10 PM
Awesome, happy to help :)

Please report back when it gets ticketed and how many miles were actually debited from your account.
You can be sure i'll have something to say if they deduct the wrong amount.

I'll post as soon as the email comes in.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ilherman on May 12, 2015, 11:51:38 PM
You can be sure i'll have something to say if they deduct the wrong amount.

I'll post as soon as the email comes in.
Be ready to wait like two days.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yordai Dooma on May 13, 2015, 08:04:22 AM
Be ready to wait like two days.
My AA flights gave been ticketing in like 3-6 hours... Booked several over the last week. Do they prioritize ticketing based on status?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on May 13, 2015, 08:07:01 AM
My AA flights gave been ticketing in like 3-6 hours... Booked several over the last week. Do they prioritize ticketing based on status?

Big difference between AA flights and EY flights.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yordai Dooma on May 13, 2015, 08:11:04 AM
Big difference between AA flights and EY flights.
Very true. Missed that...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on May 13, 2015, 08:50:21 AM
I was charged 90k per passenger, tickets are on request and noticed this little added bonus.

(http://i.gyazo.com/69de9e37de1df535b1da8d52dbd952af.png)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on May 13, 2015, 08:57:32 AM
I was charged 90k per passenger, tickets are on request and noticed this little added bonus.

(http://i.gyazo.com/69de9e37de1df535b1da8d52dbd952af.png)

Cool! So if you have the Barclays USAir card and a Citi AA Plat card, you get 20% back?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 13, 2015, 09:04:55 AM

Cool! So if you have the Barclays USAir card and a Citi AA Plat card, you get 20% back?
I was wondering the same thing. I would save a considerable amount of miles booking AA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on May 13, 2015, 09:09:32 AM
Cool! So if you have the Barclays USAir card and a Citi AA Plat card, you get 20% back?
I was not expecting it. Though i had forgotten about getting any refund at all, so i'm not going to complain.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on May 13, 2015, 09:10:44 AM
Nice. I was wondering about that.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on May 13, 2015, 10:30:45 AM
Cool! So if you have the Barclays USAir card and a Citi AA Plat card, you get 20% back?

No.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on May 13, 2015, 10:50:15 AM
So what is that double refund on the screenshot then?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 13, 2015, 10:54:06 AM
If I book an AA anytime award, and later on the AA saver opens up, can I switch it, and get the miles refunded ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2015, 11:26:50 AM
So what is that double refund on the screenshot then?
Each card gives half the miles back.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on May 13, 2015, 11:30:45 AM
Each card gives half the miles back.
Shouldn't i be getting more book if the total redemption was 360k? Wouldn't each card give me 10k?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: a mirrer on May 13, 2015, 11:43:00 AM
Shouldn't i be getting more book if the total redemption was 360k? Wouldn't each card give me 10k?
no its 10 total split between the 2 cards
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dave A on May 13, 2015, 11:44:33 AM
Trying to book a flight for three people ORD-TLV.  I see a bunch of availability ORD-X-PHL-TLV ("X" representing 3-4 different cities, but the PHL-TLV segment is the same flight).  If I book 1 ticket on, for example, ORD-RIC-PHL-TLV, will that take away the availability on the ORD-IND-PHL-TLV? 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on May 13, 2015, 11:45:14 AM
no its 10 total split between the 2 cards
I guess that makes sense. One can have many cards and potentially get free trip that way.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: leaf on May 13, 2015, 12:27:14 PM
Each card gives half the miles back.
+1
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on May 13, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
Trying to book a flight for three people ORD-TLV.  I see a bunch of availability ORD-X-PHL-TLV ("X" representing 3-4 different cities, but the PHL-TLV segment is the same flight).  If I book 1 ticket on, for example, ORD-RIC-PHL-TLV, will that take away the availability on the ORD-IND-PHL-TLV?
Assuming there's more than 1 seat availabile on the PHL-TLV segment, it shouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Freddie on May 13, 2015, 12:59:39 PM
Is it safe to book tickets for a friend or will AA accuse me of selling miles?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: FlyFirst on May 13, 2015, 01:03:47 PM
You gotta be very careful, just use your CC and your Email address,

generally bigger accounts are more likely to be looked on
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Freddie on May 13, 2015, 01:06:51 PM
You gotta be very careful, just use your CC and your Email address,

generally bigger accounts are more likely to be looked on
And if I use my own CC and my own email address, all is okay? Or still risky?

And what is a "bigger account"? I have 350k. My wife has 100k. Better to use her account because it's smaller or mine is considered small too?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 13, 2015, 01:10:04 PM
If I'm booking US flight with AA miles to tlv? do I still get the free stopover or was that only with the old US mileage program ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on May 13, 2015, 01:15:01 PM
If I'm booking US flight with AA miles to tlv? do I still get the free stopover or was that only with the old US mileage program ?
The latter.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: FlyFirst on May 13, 2015, 01:18:20 PM
And if I use my own CC and my own email address, all is okay? Or still risky?

And what is a "bigger account"? I have 350k. My wife has 100k. Better to use her account because it's smaller or mine is considered small too?
They are both small i would say, but why not rather do it on the 100k acc if possible

There's no guarantee that you won't get red flagged, but if the cc and email are the same, and your acc got closed you have the right tools to fight with them
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 13, 2015, 01:40:31 PM
If I book J on international flight, with AA miles, do I get free baggage ? I have the AA platinum, and gold card, and the U.S. airways aviator card.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: DMYD on May 13, 2015, 01:42:51 PM
If I book J on international flight, with AA miles, do I get free baggage ? I have the AA platinum, and gold card, and the U.S. airways aviator card.
you get because your flying J
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 13, 2015, 01:46:43 PM

you get because your flying J
How many ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: DMYD on May 13, 2015, 01:47:18 PM
How many ?
Usually 2 look at the airlines policy
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: tjak on May 14, 2015, 05:54:27 AM
Does it make sense that there's not a single business saver availability nonstop TLV- PHL for the next 331 days, the farthest the calendar goes or I'm searching wrong?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mocha on May 14, 2015, 06:12:36 AM
Usually 2 look at the airlines policy
pretty sure aa has 3 @ 50
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on May 14, 2015, 07:21:40 AM
If i put a flight on hold that's 21+ days out and then book it when it's with in 21 days - is there a $75 close in fee?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on May 14, 2015, 07:25:29 AM
If i put a flight on hold that's 21+ days out and then book it when it's with in 21 days - is there a $75 close in fee?
Yes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on May 14, 2015, 07:27:24 AM
Yes.

Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Something Fishy on May 14, 2015, 11:39:32 PM
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7759/17474661059_99ddb9260e_z.jpg)

Weird. AA is pricing out STT-JFK or STT-MIA-NYC correctly as 17.5k, but STX-MIA-NYC as 12.5k. Why is that?

This means that STT-JFK will be 17.5 AA or 10 BA, and STT-MIA-NYC is 17.5 AA or 15 BA. But STX-MIA-NYC (there is no direct) would be more BA than AA according to this (15 vs. 12.5).

ETA: Figured it out. The STX dates I was looking at had the off-peak pricing.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 19, 2015, 06:48:21 PM
If I put a flight on hold, can I go ahead, and book it with BA miles, or only with AA miles ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 19, 2015, 07:06:05 PM
If I put a flight on hold, can I go ahead, and book it with BA miles, or only with AA miles ?
Only AA.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: FlyFirst on May 20, 2015, 12:04:28 AM
If I put a flight on hold, can I go ahead, and book it with BA miles, or only with AA miles ?
cancel AA, and rebook on BA they usually show up
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on May 20, 2015, 12:48:31 AM
cancel AA, and rebook on BA they usually show up
Usually being the operative word.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 20, 2015, 07:29:45 AM

cancel AA, and rebook on BA they usually show up
Usually being the operative word.
My worry is, that then I'll lose the seats. I would rather book with ba to save on infant charges, but I would need to transfer miles from Amex/chase into my ba account. I'm nervous that in between transferring, I'll lose my seats, hence my original question regarding the hold.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yls2011 on May 20, 2015, 01:41:36 PM
Is there a backdoor number for American airlines? Current wait time  is over one hour
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: itsyehuda on May 20, 2015, 01:55:13 PM
Is there a backdoor number for American airlines? Current wait time  is over one hour

You can pay to cut the line.

Gary reports:

"For $5 ChatAndCut will connect you to an airline right away when hold times are long. Apparently they ‘save a spot in line’ and sell it to you. (HT: Hans M.)"

http://www.chatandcut.co/ (http://www.chatandcut.co/)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ADG on May 20, 2015, 02:26:01 PM
If i found only one business seat avilibale in savier and 1 in anytime ... would calling up get me a chance to have both on saver? I know there are 2 avilibale cuz i could but 2 anytime...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 20, 2015, 02:48:36 PM
If i found only one business seat avilibale in savier and 1 in anytime ... would calling up get me a chance to have both on saver? I know there are 2 avilibale cuz i could but 2 anytime...
Please write clear, and sensible sentences to make your question understandable. The answer to your question is no. What you see, is what there is.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ADG on May 20, 2015, 02:51:35 PM
Please write clear, and sensible sentences to make your question understandable. The answer to your question is no. What you see, is what there is.

ok i accept that... thanks for understanding and responding so kindly
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avromie7 on May 20, 2015, 02:52:30 PM
Is there a backdoor number for American airlines? Current wait time  is over one hour
You can have them call you back
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yls2011 on May 20, 2015, 02:59:29 PM
You can have them call you back
That's what I usually do. For some reason 50% of the calls are dropped when they call back.
I ask because Lucky has mentioned that he knows a backdoor number, but I can't find it anywhere.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on May 20, 2015, 04:33:44 PM
That's what I usually do. For some reason 50% of the calls are dropped when they call back.
I ask because Lucky has mentioned that he knows a backdoor number, but I can't find it anywhere.
Not sure if this is the number you used, but it's the gold members number (supposedly), so if you didn't try it see what happens: 800-848-4653
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: itsyehuda on May 21, 2015, 12:56:46 AM
That's what I usually do. For some reason 50% of the calls are dropped when they call back.
I ask because Lucky has mentioned that he knows a backdoor number, but I can't find it anywhere.

That happened to me too, a few times. After 45 minutes of waiting. It was very frustrating. You don't regain your spot in line after the drop.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avrumy on May 28, 2015, 11:28:31 AM
Anyone know if i make a change (once ticketed) of destination from Canada to USA will there be any fees in business class? Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Platinum on May 28, 2015, 12:11:31 PM
Yes, $150
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avrumy on May 28, 2015, 12:21:15 PM
ty
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hamavin on May 28, 2015, 03:46:26 PM
When opening a new aa account does date of birth have to match
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly101 on May 28, 2015, 03:48:12 PM
When opening a new aa account does date of birth have to match
Do u want ti to match the old account or not?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hamavin on May 28, 2015, 07:29:32 PM
I want a new account cuz old one was shut down.....Was wondering if DOB has to match cc?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avadah on May 28, 2015, 07:48:14 PM
Noob question. How long can you hold an award ticket for or cancel after booking?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: tjak on May 28, 2015, 07:52:58 PM

Noob question. How long can you hold an award ticket for or cancel after booking?
5 days.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avadah on May 28, 2015, 07:54:39 PM
5 days to hold, cancel after booking or both? No fees?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: voldemort on May 28, 2015, 08:50:08 PM
5 days to hold, cancel after booking or both? No fees?
You can hold for 5 days,once booked you cant cancel,unless you pay the $150 redeposit fee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avadah on May 29, 2015, 07:06:28 AM
An RJ flight isn't coming up on AA but showing up on BA.com means I can call to book it?
Is there any way to pull off this routing with AA?
TLV-DXB-HKG
(TLV-DXB needs to stop in AMM)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 29, 2015, 09:16:04 AM
An RJ flight isn't coming up on AA but showing up on BA.com means I can call to book it?
Is there any way to pull off this routing with AA?
TLV-DXB-HKG
(TLV-DXB needs to stop in AMM)

I don't know about the RJ flight, but yes, that would be a legal routing.

Or TLV-AMM-BKK-HKG. As long as you don't transit via a third region you are good.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avadah on May 29, 2015, 09:26:05 AM
I don't know about the RJ flight, but yes, that would be a legal routing.

Or TLV-AMM-BKK-HKG. As long as you don't transit via a third region you are good.
It's not considered a stopover?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 29, 2015, 09:29:31 AM
It's not considered a stopover?

Stops would need to be less than 24hrs without transitioning via a third region.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avadah on May 29, 2015, 09:46:01 AM
If only 1 segment is available and I book it can I add on the 2nd segment if it opens up?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Matovu on May 29, 2015, 09:48:23 AM
Can someone please guide me to the thread that discusses AA shutdowns for selling miles ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: a mirrer on May 30, 2015, 04:01:34 PM
Can someone please guide me to the thread that discusses AA shutdowns for selling miles ?
this?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=49255.0
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: 159dallas on June 02, 2015, 03:04:32 PM
I am looking to purchase a flight with miles from TLV-HEL(Helsinki,Finland)on july 27th and it is showing up as availible for 20k on AA website but when i call AA to book it they say it is not available.Anyone know why?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avadah on June 02, 2015, 08:21:45 PM
I'm having the same issue with HEL a few weeks later. A ton of availability online but nothing is really open.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yitrap on June 02, 2015, 08:45:23 PM
I'm vaguely remembering something about AA servicing flights for finair or something maybe that has something to do with it somehow
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: theblaide on June 03, 2015, 01:47:33 PM
Does AA/US open more award seats closer to departure time
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dr Moose on June 03, 2015, 01:48:56 PM
Does AA/US open more award seats closer to departure time
yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: theblaide on June 10, 2015, 02:21:41 PM
I'm looking to book TLV-Xxx-CLE on Thursday July 16th I noticed that some days everyday economy is either 65k 85k or 115k for the same flights any ideas why?
And if there are any better ideas for that flight
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: a mirrer on June 18, 2015, 02:29:25 PM
AAdvantage Now Allows Routings From Europe To Australia Via Middle East (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2015/06/18/aadvantage-now-allows-routings-from-europe-to-australia-via-middle-east/)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on June 18, 2015, 02:34:55 PM
I'm looking to book TLV-Xxx-CLE on Thursday July 16th I noticed that some days everyday economy is either 65k 85k or 115k for the same flights any ideas why?
And if there are any better ideas for that flight

US Airways? AA has different tiers in pricing.. lowest should be 45,000 OW
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: theblaide on June 18, 2015, 02:36:47 PM
US Airways? AA has different tiers in pricing.. lowest should be 45,000 OW
AA. maybe I missed the 45k tier, but I was wondering if there's a way to predict if those rates will change
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: robbie on June 22, 2015, 11:20:32 AM
if aa changed my itinerary by a couple of hours would that give me the option to cancell my ticket without paying the re deposit fee?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on June 22, 2015, 11:23:22 AM
if aa changed my itinerary by a couple of hours would that give me the option to cancell my ticket without paying the re deposit fee?
Possible. PUTPAC.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: robbie on June 22, 2015, 11:31:29 AM
Possible. PUTPAC.
working on that, American hold times are worse then ba now adays.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yordai Dooma on June 22, 2015, 11:38:24 AM
working on that, American hold times are worse then ba now adays.
depends when you call. There are some serious weather delays going on at the moment
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on June 22, 2015, 11:39:52 AM
It took me an hour and a half to make a flight change last week. It took under five minutes of actual time talking to a rep.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on June 22, 2015, 02:27:44 PM
It took me an hour and a half to make a flight change last week. It took under five minutes of actual time talking to a rep.
+1. I started just doing the call back option.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Einstein on June 22, 2015, 02:35:44 PM
Does anybody know the best time to book AA metal FCO-JFK in J, never seems to open?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dr Moose on June 22, 2015, 02:37:12 PM
Does anybody know the best time to book AA metal FCO-JFK in J, never seems to open?
I usually try on Thusdays at 4:12 PM
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Einstein on June 22, 2015, 02:38:54 PM
I usually try on Thusdays at 4:12 PM
thanks for the advice, Ill try that :P :P
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: robbie on June 22, 2015, 03:43:35 PM
flying quantas... are they known for opening up tickets closer to departure date?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mmm740 on June 22, 2015, 04:56:10 PM
flying quantas... are they known for opening up tickets closer to departure date?
No.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SAtraveler on June 23, 2015, 02:52:01 AM
I'm trying to book NYC-SYD for December (yes i know im early) anyhow there are zero tickets from dec 11 till mid Jan anyone know a way around to book via a different airline using my AA miles? Or will dates be added closer to Dec?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jfkeze on June 23, 2015, 03:27:03 AM
flying quantas... are they known for opening up tickets closer to departure date?

pet peeve! it's QANTAS not qUantas  :-\ originally called "Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services"...

but back to the point, it's best to look 330 days out for them, they do release some inventory a few weeks before flights (LHR-DXB and DXB-LHR) but they are hard to redeem on  :-[
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on June 23, 2015, 07:04:07 AM
but back to the point, it's best to look 355 days out for them, they do release some inventory a few weeks before flights (LHR-DXB and DXB-LHR) but they are hard to redeem on  :-[
FTFY
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: eljay07 on June 23, 2015, 08:36:39 AM
Is there a thread discussing the value of upgrading paid economy AA ticket (PHL to TLV) using AA miles?  I'm seeing on their chart 25k +$350 each way, but trying to figure out value or if there is a better way...thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: eis517 on June 23, 2015, 09:48:48 AM
I put an AA award on hold. IS there a limit as to the number of times I can do that? For example, if I will not be flying till November, but the trip is not set yet, can I release the hold every 5 days and then re-book it?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 23, 2015, 10:07:26 AM

I put an AA award on hold. IS there a limit as to the number of times I can do that? For example, if I will not be flying till November, but the trip is not set yet, can I release the hold every 5 days and then re-book it?

Yes, but keep in mind not every time will it necessarily come back to availability
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: robbie on June 24, 2015, 05:42:58 PM
Is japan known for opening seats closer to departure date?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on June 25, 2015, 12:15:29 AM
Sometimes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: peacenlove613 on June 25, 2015, 09:50:31 AM
aa flies lga-pbi direct in the winter. Anyone know when I can start booking those flights?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: stokes on June 25, 2015, 12:20:12 PM
there is incredible award availability JFK to LAX in F in october and november - 1 seat each flight

Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on June 25, 2015, 01:03:47 PM
aa flies lga-pbi direct in the winter. Anyone know when I can start booking those flights?
As soon as it's loaded into the calendar which is 330 days out.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: shoobi on June 25, 2015, 01:04:51 PM
there is incredible award availability JFK to LAX in F in october and november - 1 seat each flight

that's considered amazing? so i'll never find 2 seats open for me and my wife?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on June 25, 2015, 01:16:48 PM
that's considered amazing? so i'll never find 2 seats open for me and my wife?
Not amazing.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: peacenlove613 on June 25, 2015, 02:14:34 PM
As soon as it's loaded into the calendar which is 330 days out.
So if no direct flights are bookable now for this coming winter does that mean they are discontinuing that route?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avremie on June 26, 2015, 10:59:26 AM
no saver awards for lga-yul or lga-yyz either way for months was there yesterday.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: eis517 on June 26, 2015, 12:02:39 PM
no saver awards for lga-yul or lga-yyz either way for months was there yesterday.

No saver award for YYZ-LAX either. I had an award on hold but had to cancel because I can't confirm that I can go. Now there is nothing left! I am hoping it is a mistake.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yuguy on June 26, 2015, 12:26:23 PM
No saver award for YYZ-LAX either. I had an award on hold but had to cancel because I can't confirm that I can go. Now there is nothing left! I am hoping it is a mistake.

no saver awards for lga-yul or lga-yyz either way for months was there yesterday.

Read this http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2015/06/26/american-shuts-some-major-domestic-cities-out-of-ever-redeeming-a-saver-award/

Also having trouble find Friday-Sunday/Monday availability for this summer btwn LGA/JFK-ORD. All I can find is EWR.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: tjak on June 29, 2015, 06:06:58 PM
If I put an award on hold can I add legs to it within those 5 days, or I would have to cancel it and rehold it? 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dave A on June 29, 2015, 07:43:20 PM
Couldn't find an answer in various threads (although I'm sure it's been asked) -- I booked an award flight ORD-DUS-TLV, with the last leg operated by Air Berlin.  How do I select seats for that last leg?  Not available on AA website and I can't find the proper "record locator" to do it on the Air Berlin website.

Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on June 29, 2015, 07:58:11 PM
Couldn't find an answer in various threads (although I'm sure it's been asked) -- I booked an award flight ORD-DUS-TLV, with the last leg operated by Air Berlin.  How do I select seats for that last leg?  Not available on AA website and I can't find the proper "record locator" to do it on the Air Berlin website.

Thanks

call AA they can give it to you
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yoelygb on June 29, 2015, 08:05:20 PM
Read this http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2015/06/26/american-shuts-some-major-domestic-cities-out-of-ever-redeeming-a-saver-award/

Also having trouble find Friday-Sunday/Monday availability for this summer btwn LGA/JFK-ORD. All I can find is EWR.
I can't understand why no blogger or news agency made a big fuss of this basically aa closed down most short haul /expensive routes from redeeming saver awards (or ba avios)  it's going on already for 5 days and just one article from Gary about it!!!  When American had a glitch with booking etihad first class there was far more articles
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on June 30, 2015, 12:40:05 AM
If I put an award on hold can I add legs to it within those 5 days, or I would have to cancel it and rehold it?
Yes, but it won't extend the hold unless there is still availability and you place a new hold.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on June 30, 2015, 06:22:31 AM
Is Europe to Asia 2 via AUH a valid routing, or you can only transit the middle east via DOH?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on June 30, 2015, 06:29:09 AM
Is Europe to Asia 2 via AUH a valid routing, or you can only transit the middle east via DOH?
only DOH. i saw one report of going through AUH but i dont believe it
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Sholom123 on June 30, 2015, 10:30:22 AM
anyone know what the taxes are for a rewards flight to europe?
also how long do i have to cancel it? 24 hours?
all help is appreciated thank you
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 30, 2015, 11:17:30 AM
anyone know what the taxes are for a rewards flight to europe?
also how long do i have to cancel it? 24 hours?
all help is appreciated thank you

If you book on AA metal then only taxes and airport fees which depend on the airport you are flying to. If you book on BA/IB metal then you have YQ charges as well.

You have a hold on AA, ranges anywhere from 24 to 72 hours, sometimes more. Once booked you can't cancel.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Sholom123 on June 30, 2015, 01:19:29 PM
Perfect thank you
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on June 30, 2015, 01:24:18 PM
You have a hold on AA, ranges anywhere from 24 to 72 hours, sometimes more. Once booked you can't cancel.
15+ days out - 5 day hold.
14 days until 24 hrs before departure - 1 day hold.
Within 24 hours of departure - hold until 2 hours prior to departure.

Not sure where you got your 24-72 hours from.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dave A on July 01, 2015, 10:32:26 AM
6 hr layover in DUS on AA award ticket. Kosher food available in airport or nearby?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 01, 2015, 10:43:06 AM
Stretching the the topic of thread ^

Would be better off asked in the Destination forum.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on July 01, 2015, 12:04:58 PM
6 hr layover in DUS on AA award ticket. Kosher food available in airport or nearby?
I believe Chabad sells some food and is located around 15 min from the airport
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: stokes on July 01, 2015, 04:06:23 PM
can non-elites make changes to date of AA award flight within 24 hours of award booking without change fees?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jaywhy on July 01, 2015, 04:09:01 PM
can non-elites make changes to date of AA award flight within 24 hours of award booking without change fees?
Anyone can make date changes for free.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mech on July 01, 2015, 04:25:11 PM
Couldn't find a better thread for this.
I just paid $200 to have 35,716 AAdvantage miles that expired in 2009, reinstated to my account!! Am I crazy or was this a good deal?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on July 01, 2015, 04:25:53 PM
Couldn't find a better thread for this.
I just paid $200 to have 35,716 AAdvantage miles that expired in 2009, reinstated to my account!! Am I crazy or was this a good deal?
What's done is done, but could have looked for a car rental from someone and tried to apply that.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: tjak on July 01, 2015, 04:47:37 PM
Is TLV-AMM-AUH-HKG a valid route, or I would have to start in AMM to make it a published fare? 

If I hold a ticket 23 days out then ticket it 20 days out do I have to pay the close in fee?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 01, 2015, 04:51:52 PM
Is TLV-AMM-AUH-HKG a valid route, or I would have to start in AMM to make it a published fare? 

If I hold a ticket 23 days out then ticket it 20 days out do I have to pay the close in fee?

Yes, it's valid. Yes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mech on July 01, 2015, 05:04:46 PM

What's done is done, but could have looked for a car rental from someone and tried to apply that.
I need the miles sooner than I would find a receipt from 09'
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: tjak on July 01, 2015, 06:44:57 PM
If I hold two similar itineraries will I be able to mix them up if I decide I want the the short hauls on itinerary A and the long haul of itinerary B?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 01, 2015, 07:23:07 PM
If I hold two similar itineraries will I be able to mix them up if I decide I want the the short hauls on itinerary A and the long haul of itinerary B?
Robot cancels duplicate reservations.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: tjak on July 01, 2015, 07:30:00 PM

Robot cancels duplicate reservations.
Even if the flight times are different?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avromie7 on July 01, 2015, 11:36:57 PM
What's done is done, but could have looked for a car rental from someone and tried to apply that.
FWIU it reinstates from the date of the rental and he would therefore need receipts from '09 till now without any 18 month gap
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 02, 2015, 12:59:29 AM
If I hold two similar itineraries will I be able to mix them up if I decide I want the the short hauls on itinerary A and the long haul of itinerary B?
No
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SOS on July 02, 2015, 02:06:48 PM
is there 24 hrs to cancel a us airways/ aa revenue flight ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: tjak on July 02, 2015, 02:20:44 PM

is there 24 hrs to cancel a us airways/ aa revenue flight ?
No. They offer a 24 hour hold instead.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SOS on July 02, 2015, 02:23:36 PM
No. They offer a 24 hour hold instead.
thanks, i thought i remembered that, just couldn't remember where i saw it
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 02, 2015, 02:24:24 PM
is there 24 hrs to cancel a us airways/ aa revenue flight ?

No. They offer a 24 hour hold instead.

True.  But can book through OTA for free cancellation.

I think it's federally regulated that they have to, I could be totally wrong.

You are. It's either/or. And then only before 7 days.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: eis517 on July 02, 2015, 03:11:15 PM
True.  But can book through OTA for free cancellation.

You are. It's either/or. And then only before 7 days.

I love that AJK had to say that you are wrong, and couldn't just explain why you are wrong. Classic AJK.  :P
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Wafflemuffins on July 02, 2015, 04:37:27 PM
I love that AJK had to say that you are wrong, and couldn't just explain why you are wrong. Classic AJK.  :P
Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man a fish, you feed him for life.
If he spoon fead everyone no one would learn.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 02, 2015, 04:45:52 PM
I love that AJK had to say that you are wrong, and couldn't just explain why you are wrong. Classic AJK.  :P

I answered the question asked! ;)

Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man a fish, you feed him for life.

No truer words have ever been uttered.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Wafflemuffins on July 02, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
I answered the question asked! ;)

No truer words have ever been uttered.
The 10 commandments? 😉
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Matovu on July 02, 2015, 05:55:49 PM
I answered the question asked! ;)

No truer words have ever been uttered.
Hillariuos
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: eis517 on July 06, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
Dan said in his post the other day that the AA sAAver space issue has been fixed. But when I look for  flights from YYZ to either LAX, MIA, ORD or NYC (all direct) barely anything shows up even during a non-busy season in months from now. Anyone else having this issue, or maybe it is a YYZ thing?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: joejoe on July 06, 2015, 11:42:41 PM
is there a way to hold a flight with us airways when booking a revnue flight? thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yuguy on July 07, 2015, 11:45:22 AM
Hope this is the right place... Anyways, just returned from ANU, and booked 1 OW for myself with AA miles, and 1 OW on AA metal with AS miles for my DW. I know priority access on AA metal is only for domestic flights; DW received priority on her boarding pass (she has Aviator red and Citi AA Gold CCs)--not complaining, but just curious, any idea why?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on July 07, 2015, 09:12:10 PM
Why is AA charging 102K for QF F and AA F same day DXB-LHR-NYC? With multi city.

I could only get AA F by doing multi City, OW search doesn't pull up QF F - AA F combination
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 07, 2015, 09:23:57 PM
PUTPAC.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on July 07, 2015, 09:27:38 PM
PUTPAC.
That won't help me if you know what i mean
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 07, 2015, 09:49:51 PM
I do. But answered on the chance you weren't talking about that.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: tjak on July 10, 2015, 04:23:09 AM
If book a business class award can I upgrade it to first if it opens without paying any fees?   
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on July 10, 2015, 08:05:07 AM
If book a business class award can I upgrade it to first if it opens without paying any fees?   
IIRC, to upgrade is no fee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: tjak on July 10, 2015, 08:23:17 AM

IIRC, to upgrade is no fee.
Thought so to but asked two phone reps today when I put a flight on hold, and they told me it's $150. Just want to make sure they're wrong before I ticket.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: 3yummyboys on July 10, 2015, 10:13:47 AM
Any way I can check for saver availability for specific dates with no particular destination in mind. I need to book tix for my inlaws using AA miles for August 2-6 they aren't picky about where they go
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Wafflemuffins on July 10, 2015, 11:50:30 AM
Any way I can check for saver availability for specific dates with no particular destination in mind. I need to book tix for my inlaws using AA miles for August 2-6 they aren't picky about where they go
IIRC kayak has a tool like this for paid flights. Never seen one for award tickets though.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: 3yummyboys on July 10, 2015, 11:52:26 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Wafflemuffins on July 10, 2015, 11:53:08 AM
IIRC kayak has a tool like this for paid flights. Never seen one for award tickets though.
Found it
http://www.kayak.com/explore/
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: 3yummyboys on July 10, 2015, 12:01:27 PM
That's actually pretty cool
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: @Yehuda on July 12, 2015, 07:02:44 PM
If the only coach seats available for an AA flight are Main Extra, is there any chance that they will become available for points?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: oiseli48 on July 12, 2015, 08:01:16 PM

If the only coach seats available for an AA flight are Main Extra, is there any chance that they will become available for points?

Side point, when you pay 20k points for an AAnytime award, you can choose that main extra seats... Can be worth it
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ADG on July 13, 2015, 11:33:43 AM
Is it common/likely/ possible that a anytime economy flight will show up on the saaver sections if I wait?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on July 13, 2015, 11:36:25 AM
Is it common/likely/ possible that a anytime economy flight will show up on the saaver sections if I wait?
Yes/yes/yes but no guarantee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ADG on July 13, 2015, 01:05:28 PM
Yes/yes/yes but no guarantee.
Kind thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: avrumy on July 13, 2015, 10:13:20 PM
Anyone know why AA award desk takes forever to get through to? when would be the best time to call?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sara b on July 15, 2015, 10:18:03 AM
I just reserved 4 tickets PHL to DUB and then back LHR to PHL using all miles. Taxes and carrier charges on the way in are $22.40, and the way back is showing up as over $1400. Anything I should be aware of before calling in? When I click on the link of the breakdown in charges, it's showing up that I should only be charged $5.60 per ticket.

Thanks!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on July 15, 2015, 10:18:38 AM
I just reserved 4 tickets PHL to DUB and then back LHR to PHL using all miles. Taxes and carrier charges on the way in are $22.40, and the way back is showing up as over $1400. Anything I should be aware of before calling in? When I click on the link of the breakdown in charges, it's showing up that I should only be charged $5.60 per ticket.

Thanks!
Flying out of LHR is expensive.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: DMYD on July 15, 2015, 10:33:39 AM
I just reserved 4 tickets PHL to DUB and then back LHR to PHL using all miles. Taxes and carrier charges on the way in are $22.40, and the way back is showing up as over $1400. Anything I should be aware of before calling in? When I click on the link of the breakdown in charges, it's showing up that I should only be charged $5.60 per ticket.

Thanks!
The only way not to pay that is taking a short flight to somewhere out of England, and then go from there, but yes the YQ is very high out of LHR.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mmm740 on July 15, 2015, 10:47:04 AM
The only way not to pay that is taking a short flight to somewhere out of England, and then go from there, but yes the YQ is very high out of LHR.
Its not YQ, its UK passenger duty. In addition LHR has high airport taxes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sara b on July 15, 2015, 01:02:50 PM
Thanks, everyone. If I fly into LHR will I avoid the excess taxes and fees? If so, I can try and flip my itinerary.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: DMYD on July 15, 2015, 01:25:54 PM
Thanks, everyone. If I fly into LHR will I avoid the excess taxes and fees? If so, I can try and flip my itinerary.
Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: @Yehuda on July 15, 2015, 09:31:14 PM
If using AA miles to fly J on a 2-cabin flight (let's say that existed on LAX-SYD), can you add a domestic F flight for free (like NYC-LAX) or does it have to be J as well?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 15, 2015, 09:47:02 PM
If using AA miles to fly J on a 2-cabin flight (let's say that existed on LAX-SYD), can you add a domestic F flight for free (like NYC-LAX) or does it have to be J as well?

Officially not. Why would you be able to? NYC-LAX is a 3 cabin plane with Y/J/F. A J redemption gets you J on that flight, not F.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: @Yehuda on July 15, 2015, 09:52:09 PM
Officially not. Why would you be able to? NYC-LAX is a 3 cabin plane with Y/J/F. A J redemption gets you J on that flight, not F.
Just checking, thanks. Good to know there's an officially in there :)

When NYC-LAX is first added to the end of AA's calendar, do they always start off with releasing just 1 seat each in F and J? Do they ever start with 2 each?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 15, 2015, 09:56:01 PM
Just checking, thanks. Good to know there's an officially in there :)

When NYC-LAX is first added to the end of AA's calendar, do they always start off with releasing just 1 seat each in F and J? Do they ever start with 2 each?

I think @jaywhy once said something about getting them to add a F segment to a J award sometimes. May have been in this thread, you can search.

Almost universally only 1.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: @Yehuda on July 15, 2015, 10:03:50 PM
I think @jaywhy once said something about getting them to add a F segment to a J award sometimes. May have been in this thread, you can search.

Almost universally only 1.
Thanks, I'll search. Sheesh.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 15, 2015, 10:26:07 PM
Yup, but a lot more seats open close-in.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 15, 2015, 11:28:33 PM
Today I woke up and got a  email with a reservation under my FFN, and I had not made any reservations from my account.

I searched the details and saw that the flight was booked with 80k AAdvantage aanytime award showing booking class Y,
and it showed that there was 0 miles available from the account which it was redeemed from.

There were no miles deducted from my account, but I putpac AA just to confirm and the rep claimed that this ticket was a purchased ticked and mistakenly my FFN was added!

My question is: is aanytime considered like a revenue ticket in the AA system?

Any facts/experience is  appreciated. (Not thoughts or opinions please)

 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 15, 2015, 11:50:48 PM
No.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jr611 on July 16, 2015, 09:37:26 AM
sorry if this is a redundant question but can someone enlighten me on how to book an award ticket for someone else with my own points? Anyone had experience with this?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on July 16, 2015, 09:39:17 AM
sorry if this is a redundant question but can someone enlighten me on how to book an award ticket for someone else with my own points? Anyone had experience with this?
You should be able to do it online or just call in.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jr611 on July 16, 2015, 09:43:23 AM
You should be able to do it online or just call in.
im asking moreso if there have been any problems that anyone has experienced, i.e. the person who booked it not being at check in or not having the card that is on file etc.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: BarryLincoln on July 16, 2015, 10:29:41 AM
im asking moreso if there have been any problems that anyone has experienced, i.e. the person who booked it not being at check in or not having the card that is on file etc.
One is able to book tickets for others using his/her miles without issue, even though the account holder will not be travelling with them.  You simply need to enter their name and info in the Traveler section. 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jr611 on July 16, 2015, 10:40:31 AM
on that note, while slightly off topic, would 65k miles +$125 for one way tlv-nyc be a better value than ~$900 on aeroflot or similar?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: LoLo on July 16, 2015, 10:43:52 AM
on that note, while slightly off topic, would 65k miles +$125 for one way tlv-nyc be a better value than ~$900 on aeroflot or similar?
For me, yes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 16, 2015, 04:23:40 PM
21 Hours so far and Award hasn't ticketed. I don't see a pending charge on my CC yet, either. Worrisome or normal?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 16, 2015, 04:31:02 PM
21 Hours so far and Award hasn't ticketed. I don't see a pending charge on my CC yet, either. Worrisome or normal?
What airline?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 16, 2015, 04:31:41 PM
What airline?

AA Metal.
Mileage account showing pre-award balance too.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 16, 2015, 04:34:59 PM
AA Metal.
Mileage account showing pre-award balance too.
Nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 16, 2015, 04:44:11 PM
Nothing to worry about.

Thanks.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 16, 2015, 07:56:45 PM

Nothing to worry about.

It's 24 and counting, still pending. Should I have the AH call in?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 17, 2015, 02:26:38 AM
No.
Thanks.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 17, 2015, 01:10:16 PM
Nothing to worry about.

It still hasn't ticketed yet. I am now very worried. What should I do?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 18, 2015, 02:25:18 PM
It still hasn't ticketed yet. I am now very worried. What should I do?
PUTPAC
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 18, 2015, 10:46:06 PM

PUTPAC

It didn't ticket for the reason feared.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hatastah on July 19, 2015, 12:15:42 AM
What are the chances of availability in J opening LAX-JFK for the first few days of September?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 19, 2015, 01:03:14 AM
What are the chances of availability in J opening LAX-JFK for the first few days of September?

Z opens much more often than U.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on July 19, 2015, 01:37:23 AM
What are the chances of availability in J opening LAX-JFK for the first few days of September?
Much less than F opening up.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on July 19, 2015, 02:07:15 AM
Is AA always this bad on opening award seats ? NYC- CUN for the next few weeks has got Barely anything.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 19, 2015, 02:14:00 AM
It didn't ticket for the reason feared.
Audit?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 19, 2015, 02:43:53 AM

Audit?

Yeah supposedly they sent an email to the AH.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 19, 2015, 02:45:19 AM
Yeah supposedly they sent an email to the AH.
Good luck.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 19, 2015, 06:14:53 AM

Good luck.

Is there even any hope?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sara b on July 19, 2015, 08:58:00 PM
Has anyone heard of this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/autumn-statement/11270273/Autumn-Statement-2014-air-tax-scrapped-for-children.html

Trying to save on fees if possible.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sara b on July 19, 2015, 09:27:47 PM
Has anyone heard of this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/autumn-statement/11270273/Autumn-Statement-2014-air-tax-scrapped-for-children.html

Trying to save on fees if possible.

Okay, just confirmed for myself (after an hour and 40 minutes on hold) - children under age 12 (or 16, the article contradicted itself) don't have to pay taxes leaving London. I had to call and get the taxes manually removed for my 2 kids. And when the rep told her department to take the taxes off my kids, they accidentally took it off for us adults as well so we saved over $700 in taxes :)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: DMYD on July 19, 2015, 09:51:16 PM
Okay, just confirmed for myself (after an hour and 40 minutes on hold) - children under age 12 (or 16, the article contradicted itself) don't have to pay taxes leaving London. I had to call and get the taxes manually removed for my 2 kids. And when the rep told her department to take the taxes off my kids, they accidentally took it off for us adults as well so we saved over $700 in taxes :)
Wow cool lucky you
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 20, 2015, 01:07:01 AM
Okay, just confirmed for myself (after an hour and 40 minutes on hold) - children under age 12 (or 16, the article contradicted itself) don't have to pay taxes leaving London. I had to call and get the taxes manually removed for my 2 kids. And when the rep told her department to take the taxes off my kids, they accidentally took it off for us adults as well so we saved over $700 in taxes :)
You already paid the taxes, and called to get it refunded?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: harrym on July 20, 2015, 05:12:50 AM
Why is AA pricing me exEU to SYD with EY as two awards, 100k in F instead of 80k?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 20, 2015, 05:28:05 AM
Why is AA pricing me exEU to SYD with EY as two awards, 100k in F instead of 80k?

Rep is probably unaware of the new rule. HUCA.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sara b on July 20, 2015, 07:21:19 AM
You already paid the taxes, and called to get it refunded?

No, I had reserved the itinerary and was calling in to confirm the booking and make some slight changes. The law was implemented as of May 2015, so I'm not sure why their system wasn't updated to reflect the change.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mmm740 on July 20, 2015, 08:14:51 AM
Rep is probably unaware of the new rule. HUCA.
Does the rule include EY?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 20, 2015, 08:20:26 AM
Does the rule include EY?
Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 20, 2015, 08:31:44 AM
-1
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 20, 2015, 08:38:01 AM
-1
You are correct, I misunderstood what
Lucky (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2015/06/18/aadvantage-now-allows-routings-from-europe-to-australia-via-middle-east/) said.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 20, 2015, 08:39:55 AM
Lucky (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2015/06/18/aadvantage-now-allows-routings-from-europe-to-australia-via-middle-east/) says it does.
Better clean those glasses...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: a mirrer on July 20, 2015, 08:40:03 AM
Lucky (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2015/06/18/aadvantage-now-allows-routings-from-europe-to-australia-via-middle-east/) says it does.
he actually agrees with ajk
Quote
It’s too bad that this exception is limited to Qatar Airways, and doesn’t include travel on Etihad Airways.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 20, 2015, 08:41:34 AM
Edited my post. I misread it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 20, 2015, 02:22:57 PM
Asia 2 to Europe is only allowed via DOH.

I just put the following on hold: SIN-DOH (QR)-AMM-KBP (RJ) and the rep priced it as 1 award (Asia 2 to Europe) in J for 52.5k.
What's the reason behind this, does 1 leg on QR metal and a stop in DOH give it the "DOH exception" even though it's also connecting in AMM on RJ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mordechain on July 20, 2015, 02:45:25 PM
Anyone have an idea  for how to pick up 1500 aa miles in hurry? I have two tickets on hold and I'm just a bit short.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jaywhy on July 20, 2015, 02:49:41 PM
Anyone have an idea  for how to pick up 1500 aa miles in hurry? I have two tickets on hold and I'm just a bit short.
Buy them or transfer spg
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mordechain on July 20, 2015, 02:50:42 PM
Spg is in my name, the aa account is in my wife's. How long would it take to transfer?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dan on July 20, 2015, 02:50:52 PM
Asia 2 to Europe is only allowed via DOH.

I just put the following on hold: SIN-DOH (QR)-AMM-KBP (RJ) and the rep priced it as 1 award (Asia 2 to Europe) in J for 52.5k.
What's the reason behind this, does 1 leg on QR metal and a stop in DOH give it the "DOH exception" even though it's also connecting in AMM on RJ?
It's DOH.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 20, 2015, 03:01:29 PM
It's DOH.
Thanks

So basically as long as you touch DOH you can route via the Middle East, even if you're connecting through other cities in the Middle East as well?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 20, 2015, 03:12:22 PM
It's DOH.

According to you, SYD-AUH (EY)-DOH-LHR(QR) = 80K or 100K in F?

Or, LHR-AUH(EY)-DOH-PER(QR) = 60K or 75K in J?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: leaf on July 20, 2015, 04:36:58 PM
Spg is in my name, the aa account is in my wife's. How long would it take to transfer?
You can transfer spg to your wife's spg account and then transfer her spg to her AA account.  Both transfers will take a few days each minimum... Depends on day of week and YMMV. 
If you are on a 5-day award reservation hold, won't really help you.  Better to just buy the miles. 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MEIR613 on July 20, 2015, 07:09:22 PM
I believe DOH needs to be the connecting point between the 2 regions.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 20, 2015, 07:13:14 PM
I believe DOH needs to be the connecting point between the 2 regions.

And if there's 2 connecting points, in example: SYD-DOH-AUH-LHR where DOH is the connecting point from South Pacific and AUH is the connecting point to Europe?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MEIR613 on July 20, 2015, 07:16:19 PM
And if there's 2 connecting points, in example: SYD-DOH-AUH-LHR where DOH is the connecting points from South Pacific and AUH is the connecting point to Europe?
Not sure what you are saying. In your example DOH isn't connecting the 2 regions rather you need to go to AUH first in order to leave the ME.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 20, 2015, 07:21:54 PM
Not sure what you are saying. In your example DOH isn't connecting the 2 regions rather you need to go to AUH first in order to leave the ME.
I'm saying that DOH is the point where you are entering the Middle East and AUH is the point where you are leaving the Middle East, both are "connecting points".

According to you, DOH needs to be the Middle East exiting city. If that's true, why is SIN-DOH-AMM-KBP pricing as 1 award at 52.5k in J and not at 60k for 2 awards since AMM is the exiting Middle East city?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mordechain on July 20, 2015, 07:38:39 PM
You can transfer spg to your wife's spg account and then transfer her spg to her AA account.  Both transfers will take a few days each minimum... Depends on day of week and YMMV. 
If you are on a 5-day award reservation hold, won't really help you.  Better to just buy the miles.
I actually found that if I buy anything from ftd florists they'll give 1500 miles. Does anyone know how fast they post?the cheapest thing they sell (a teddy bear!) runs 32 with tax and all, half the price of the miles
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: wonderlust on July 21, 2015, 07:57:12 AM
How far in advance does aa release award seats? If you log in at the earliest time does that mean you will have easier time finding award tickets or is it not neccisarly based on a set amount of seats that are on a first come basis ( hope my question isn't too confusing)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Einstein on July 21, 2015, 12:22:25 PM
How far in advance does aa release award seats? If you log in at the earliest time does that mean you will have easier time finding award tickets or is it not neccisarly based on a set amount of seats that are on a first come basis ( hope my question isn't too confusing)
Depends on route....some open far in advance and dont open again such as FCO-JFK J, and some open close to the flight
Title: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mech on July 21, 2015, 06:41:34 PM
I've been trying to book 3 award tickets hkg-dxb-amm-Tlv for 30k pp. On the amm-Tlv flight there are only 2 seats available. The third seat is for my baby. I've been on the phone at least 5 hrs with aa trying to book my baby hkg-dxb-amm as a regular award seat, and amm-Tlv as a lap infant attached to my ticket. I've been sent to every department in aa and have gotten different answers. Some have said that it was possible and would cost in the $30 range but they can't ticket it. They sent me to RJ and RJ told me they can't add the infant or even touch the ticket cause it's controlled by AA. I'm being sent around in circles. Has anyone had experience/ success in adding an infant ticket to only one of the legs of a trip? If I would add the baby as a lap infant the whole way it would cost me over $400. Not interested in shelling it out.
Any tips would be very helpful!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mmm740 on July 22, 2015, 12:29:28 AM


I've been trying to book 3 award tickets hkg-dxb-amm-Tlv for 30k pp. On the amm-Tlv flight there are only 2 seats available. The third seat is for my baby. I've been on the phone at least 5 hrs with aa trying to book my baby hkg-dxb-amm as a regular award seat, and amm-Tlv as a lap infant attached to my ticket. I've been sent to every department in aa and have gotten different answers. Some have said that it was possible and would cost in the $30 range but they can't ticket it. They sent me to RJ and RJ told me they can't add the infant or even touch the ticket cause it's controlled by AA. I'm being sent around in circles. Has anyone had experience/ success in adding an infant ticket to only one of the legs of a trip? If I would add the baby as a lap infant the whole way it would cost me over $400. Not interested in shelling it out.
Any tips would be very helpful!

If there is a later flight with one seat available, book yourself in that one and your wife and Infant on the earlier one, then hope another seat opens on the earlier flight and change it.
I once booked with a long stopover in AMM and I changed it when the earlier flight opened.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 22, 2015, 01:06:09 AM

If there is a later flight with one seat available, book yourself in that one and your wife and Infant on the earlier one, then hope another seat opens on the earlier flight and change it.
I once booked with a long stopover in AMM and I changed it when the earlier flight opened.
And if it doesn't open, they won't let you go standby, so be prepared to take a cab from AMM to Israel.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: wonderlust on July 22, 2015, 01:13:32 AM
Depends on route....some open far in advance and dont open again such as FCO-JFK J, and some open close to the flight
How About from PHL-TLV
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mech on July 22, 2015, 02:56:09 AM


If there is a later flight with one seat available, book yourself in that one and your wife and Infant on the earlier one, then hope another seat opens on the earlier flight and change it.
I once booked with a long stopover in AMM and I changed it when the earlier flight opened.
First off, there is no later flight. Second, on almost all the flight that RJ ha open award space, there are only 2 seats available max. Do you have experience with then opening a 3rd? Third, what d93 said.
Still looking for an answer to my original question.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yaalili on July 22, 2015, 05:43:08 PM
So I had an award booked in J from California to New York for a motzei shabbos. The original flight time when I booked was 10:45pm, now it changed to 9:15pm. Did anyone ever have success getting AA to put you on another airlines flight? In this case United had a flight at 10:30.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on July 23, 2015, 08:56:22 AM
So I had an award booked in J from California to New York for a motzei shabbos. The original flight time when I booked was 10:45pm, now it changed to 9:15pm. Did anyone ever have success getting AA to put you on another airlines flight? In this case United had a flight at 10:30.
PUTPAC. Likely depends how far out the trip is.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yaalili on July 23, 2015, 12:27:18 PM
PUTPAC. Likely depends how far out the trip is.

Trip is for late September beginning of October. Better to call now or closer in?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on July 23, 2015, 12:34:03 PM
Trip is for late September beginning of October. Better to call now or closer in?
You can try now.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 23, 2015, 04:53:37 PM
Is there a way to book a minor online without adult?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 23, 2015, 05:01:28 PM
Is there a way to book a minor online without adult?
Fake dob
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 23, 2015, 05:06:54 PM
Fake dob
And then?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 23, 2015, 05:12:47 PM
And then?

You book it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 23, 2015, 05:16:38 PM
You book it.
And you can fix dob after online?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 23, 2015, 05:19:33 PM
And you can fix dob after online?
No. And no need to.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 23, 2015, 05:21:00 PM
No. And no need to.
Really?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Venilla on July 23, 2015, 05:22:36 PM
Really?
Yes. The DOB is not on the BP.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 23, 2015, 06:58:08 PM
So I had an award booked in J from California to New York for a motzei shabbos. The original flight time when I booked was 10:45pm, now it changed to 9:15pm. Did anyone ever have success getting AA to put you on another airlines flight? In this case United had a flight at 10:30.
Not gonna happen considering this isn't IRROPS.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yaalili on July 23, 2015, 07:00:15 PM
Not gonna happen considering this isn't IRROPS.

Ok didn't call in yet, cuz want to see first if I want to change the date or cancel award altogether cuz of time.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 23, 2015, 07:01:06 PM
That's possible.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 28, 2015, 10:45:54 AM
2 questions:
1. If I book from a-b on can I change it a-c?
2. Can I cancel online and miles will be returned instantly?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 28, 2015, 10:56:49 AM
1. With a fee. 2. Yes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 28, 2015, 11:11:12 AM
1. With a fee. 2. Yes.
Thanks, and would you know how much?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on July 28, 2015, 11:13:50 AM
Thanks, and would you know how much?
Allow me:
http://bfy.tw/11sx
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 28, 2015, 11:14:17 AM
My man
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 28, 2015, 11:17:12 AM
Allow me:
http://bfy.tw/11sx
Toda!

My man
+1

Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on July 30, 2015, 07:10:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/D0YhYzy.jpg)

 ::)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on July 30, 2015, 07:15:30 PM
Data point: was able to redeposit AA award due to schedule change of ten mins.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yaalili on July 30, 2015, 07:38:29 PM
Data point: was able to redeposit AA award due to schedule change of ten mins.


Nice I don't think I will have a problem for 90 minutes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mitchel89 on July 30, 2015, 10:30:43 PM
Hi All

I booked an AA award ticket from OGG to JFK. Only availability was with 2 stop overs one in LAX and one in MIA. What is the best way to get AA to change it to maybe just have one stop over?  (Its long enough to fly from Hawaii to NY without stopovers now stopping off in LAX and than MIA is really out of the way)
 
Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on July 30, 2015, 10:44:02 PM
Hi All

I booked an AA award ticket from OGG to JFK. Only availability was with 2 stop overs one in LAX and one in MIA. What is the best way to get AA to change it to maybe just have one stop over?  (Its long enough to fly from Hawaii to NY without stopovers now stopping off in LAX and than MIA is really out of the way)
 
Thanks
You can change it for free as long you don't change the origin and destination.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mitchel89 on July 31, 2015, 11:41:06 AM
You can change it for free as long you don't change the origin and destination.

The problem is that on aa.com there is no more availabilty for that awared price. Is there any other options for me to at least get them to somehow switch it maybe one stopover?

thanks   
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dave A on July 31, 2015, 02:03:37 PM
The problem is that on aa.com there is no more availabilty for that awared price. Is there any other options for me to at least get them to somehow switch it maybe one stopover?

thanks

You can call to see if there's availability that's not showing up online, but you likely won't get very far.  Your best bet is to keep checking at least once a day-- availability can open up last minute.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on July 31, 2015, 02:06:48 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/D0YhYzy.jpg)

 ::)
So the Middle East, India and Africa are all the same in your eyes????
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on July 31, 2015, 02:14:03 PM
So the Middle East, India and Africa are all the same in your eyes????
Huh? See the highlighted text.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on July 31, 2015, 06:55:09 PM
Huh? See the highlighted text.
Got it. Since when does anyone read headlines anyhow?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ual902 on August 08, 2015, 10:56:06 PM
Is this a Legal 1 single award  for a business class award for 30K AA provided it is available on BA and QF websites?:

BKK>SIN   CX J or MH BKK>KUL>SIN
SIN>DOH  QR J (787)
DOH>DXB QR J
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yaalili on August 08, 2015, 11:05:43 PM
Is this a Legal 1 single award  for a business class award for 30K AA provided it is available on BA and QF websites?:

BKK>SIN   CX J or MH BKK>KUL>SIN
SIN>DOH  QR J (787)
DOH>DXB QR J


Should be fine, SIN-DOH is now on QR 350 not 787 IIRC.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ual902 on August 08, 2015, 11:07:28 PM
Should be fine, SIN-DOH is now on QR 350 not 787 IIRC.

Correct
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yaalili on August 09, 2015, 12:20:22 AM
Ok didn't call in yet, cuz want to see first if I want to change the date or cancel award altogether cuz of time.

That's possible.

Cancelled. Though they wouldn't refund the $25 award processing fee from US Airways for making the booking.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: stevendre on August 09, 2015, 11:16:19 AM
Booked a domestic flight with aa using BA avios points. I currently have the AA aviator red card which offers free luggage on AA. Is there a way for me to utilize the free luggage even when I booked through BA? 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on August 09, 2015, 11:20:48 AM
Booked a domestic flight with aa using BA avios points. I currently have the AA aviator red card which offers free luggage on AA. Is there a way for me to utilize the free luggage even when I booked through BA?
Yes. Add your AA FFN into the reservation.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: 3yummyboys on August 09, 2015, 01:10:10 PM
Is AA less strict with overweight bags when flying business or first?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Tom Brady on August 10, 2015, 07:47:34 AM
Is AA less strict with overweight bags when flying business or first?
Well if the weight limit for your bags are 70 lbs and your bag is over that, I'm pretty sure all airlines aren't supposed to allow anything over that due to safety concerns.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: a mirrer on August 10, 2015, 07:50:58 AM
Well if the weight limit for your bags are 70 lbs and your bag is over that, I'm pretty sure all airlines aren't supposed to allow anything over that due to safety concerns.
-1 a lot of airlines will let you pay to take up to 100 pounds per suitcase
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: 3yummyboys on August 10, 2015, 08:39:48 AM
AA has 50lb limit, wondering if I can go up to 60 or 65. United has 70k limit for first class.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly on August 11, 2015, 11:25:39 PM
Booked a last min flight from TLV-PHL-LAX for 125K in J.

When we showed up at the airport we were told the second leg was booked in Y.

Any chance I can get back some of the miles ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on August 12, 2015, 07:54:02 AM
Booked a last min flight from TLV-PHL-LAX for 125K in J.

When we showed up at the airport we were told the second leg was booked in Y.

Any chance I can get back some of the miles ?
Did you originally book it in J?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on August 12, 2015, 08:42:44 AM


Booked a last min flight from TLV-PHL-LAX for 125K in J.
Anytime award?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly on August 12, 2015, 10:56:47 AM
Did you originally book it in J?
I had thought so but apparently not.
Flight was listed under the business anytime award tab for 125k.
There was no warning that not all the flights were in business class.
I could not select a seat (which would have let me know that second flight was Y) as it was a US airways flight.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on August 12, 2015, 08:41:24 PM
Ain't getting miles back.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sruly on August 12, 2015, 10:54:14 PM
Ain't getting miles back.
Should I bother asking for anything or just suck it up ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: lubaby on August 12, 2015, 10:58:14 PM
AA has 50lb limit, wondering if I can go up to 60 or 65. United has 70k limit for first class.
AA also has 70lb limit for first class.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on August 12, 2015, 11:20:35 PM
Should I bother asking for anything or just suck it up ?
Feel free to ask, but it'll be a waste of time IMO.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on August 14, 2015, 12:57:30 PM
Anyone know what the AA fee is for booking EY JFK-AUH-MLE? Does $49.50 make sense and if yes, is that inclusive of a phone booking fee?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on August 14, 2015, 03:50:22 PM
Sound about right.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: 12HRS on August 14, 2015, 04:35:06 PM
not technically an award flight question but trying to figure out paid business class change flight rules.

Choice/Choice Essential don't say anything about a change fee.
Choice Plus states: No Change Fee (fare difference may apply)
Business and First do not say anything about a change fee which makes me wonder if one applies.

Im trying to book a business class flight and then change it to a different flight after its booked (no fare difference), but I just want to make sure there is no issue changing the flight.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yitzyul on August 16, 2015, 01:25:20 AM
How does using an upgrade for miles work? If I have a regular ticket and I want to use miles to upgrade, I don't see an option? And does it confirm right away or do I still have to wait on standby list?
Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on August 16, 2015, 11:25:55 AM
AA CC that gives free luggage for main acct holder & 4 companions is valid for CUN-JFK?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yaalili on August 16, 2015, 12:05:24 PM
AA CC that gives free luggage for main acct holder & 4 companions is valid for CUN-JFK?

No, only domestic.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: leaf on August 16, 2015, 08:04:00 PM
Anyone know what the AA fee is for booking EY JFK-AUH-MLE? Does $49.50 make sense and if yes, is that inclusive of a phone booking fee?
Should be between $42-50 in taxes per pax.  No phone fee bc it's not bookable online.  You may need to remind agent about that.  DROPR. 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on August 17, 2015, 08:52:47 AM
Should be between $42-50 in taxes per pax.  No phone fee bc it's not bookable online.  You may need to remind agent about that.  DROPR.
That's what i was checking to see, based on how much i paid.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on August 17, 2015, 12:42:02 PM
That's what i was checking to see, based on how much i paid.
If you were charged a $40 phone fee, it would show up in the e-ticket email and your credit card as a separate charge and not together with the taxes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mawmaw on August 18, 2015, 03:54:25 PM
any chance of AA releasing saver award for PHL-TLV on the day of the flight with availability of J-4 or more?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on August 19, 2015, 01:45:13 AM
Is it true if i book AA saver economy or business i can upgrade to the next class above without any fees( just extra miles) ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: voldemort on August 19, 2015, 01:47:47 AM
Is it true if i book AA saver economy or business i can upgrade to the next class above without any fees( just extra miles) ?
Yes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yitz on August 19, 2015, 08:48:18 AM
When does AA change the availibilty for awards. Do you have to check every few hours? or is once a day enough?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on August 19, 2015, 08:51:31 AM
When does AA change the availibilty for awards. Do you have to check every few hours? or is once a day enough?
It can change by the minute.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yitz on August 19, 2015, 08:52:41 AM
It can change by the minute.
Thanks, I guess checking a few times a day is the way to go
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on August 19, 2015, 09:55:03 AM
Been checking AB flights on AA, NYC-DUSS and NYC-TXL and there literally is nothing available on Y, abs J, besides for 1-2 days over the next 2 months or so. Is there a better place to check AB availability, or is that just the way it is ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: elimmm on August 20, 2015, 03:54:30 PM
AA will never have economy award seats on RJ between AMM and TLV in any direction. only business. baffled the phone rep. any guesses?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on August 20, 2015, 05:48:31 PM

AA will never have economy award seats on RJ between AMM and TLV in any direction. only business. baffled the phone rep. any guesses?
I noticed the same thing, on all days I searched.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jshelton on August 23, 2015, 01:16:45 PM
Don't know if this is the right thread, so I apologize in advance if it is not.  I am trying to plan a vacation from NY to Hawaii sometime during the winter months.  My parents are in LA so I would love to use my aa miles to go to both places.  Is there a way I can book a round trip (with miles) from JFK-HNL (or any other NYC-Hawaii route) with a free stopover in LA for a few days or so on either or both ends of the trip? I also have BA and UA awards I  can use.

Thank you in advance,

Jeremy
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on August 23, 2015, 01:19:11 PM
Don't know if this is the right thread, so I apologize in advance if it is not.  I am trying to plan a vacation from NY to Hawaii sometime during the winter months.  My parents are in LA so I would love to use my aa miles to go to both places.  Is there a way I can book a round trip (with miles) from JFK-HNL (or any other NYC-Hawaii route) with a free stopover in LA for a few days or so on either or both ends of the trip? I also have BA and UA awards I  can use.

Thank you in advance,

Jeremy

Stopovers are not permitted. Anything over 4 hours on a purely domestic award would constitute a stopover and require a separate award.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mech on August 23, 2015, 01:24:39 PM

Don't know if this is the right thread, so I apologize in advance if it is not.  I am trying to plan a vacation from NY to Hawaii sometime during the winter months.  My parents are in LA so I would love to use my aa miles to go to both places.  Is there a way I can book a round trip (with miles) from JFK-HNL (or any other NYC-Hawaii route) with a free stopover in LA for a few days or so on either or both ends of the trip? I also have BA and UA awards I  can use.

Thank you in advance,

Jeremy
If you book a round trip ticket with UA miles, you are allowed one free stopover as long as you want.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: hvaces42 on August 23, 2015, 05:24:58 PM
Any way of seeing Jet Airways availability using AA miles?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jaywhy on August 23, 2015, 05:26:32 PM
Any way of seeing Jet Airways availability using AA miles?
Calling is the only way.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: hvaces42 on August 23, 2015, 05:34:09 PM
Calling is the only way.
Called. Only 1 seat, need a second one. Any other points work on Jet?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yaalili on August 23, 2015, 05:35:09 PM
Called. Only 1 seat, need a second one. Any other points work on Jet?

United works on them too. But if only 1 seat available, you would probably have same availability there.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: hvaces42 on August 23, 2015, 05:50:40 PM
United works on them too. But if only 1 seat available, you would probably have same availability there.
Have to call them too?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yaalili on August 23, 2015, 05:55:13 PM
Have to call them too?

Yes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: yitzyul on August 24, 2015, 03:36:25 PM
Have a first class saver award ticket tomorrow for an afternoon flight. THere is no saver award available for the night flight but shows 5 seats available. Anyway to get the later ticket? SHould I book the early on and try calling to put me on standby?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on August 28, 2015, 01:18:59 AM
Does it make sense that adding an IB flight MAD-TLV to an AA Award JFK-MAD (AA Metal) itinerary would add $100 in taxes and fees
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on August 28, 2015, 03:12:49 AM
Does QR award space usually go back into inventory after dropping an AA hold?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jaywhy on August 28, 2015, 07:56:00 AM
Does it make sense that adding an IB flight MAD-TLV to an AA Award JFK-MAD (AA Metal) itinerary would add $100 in taxes and fees
Yes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on August 31, 2015, 08:28:45 PM
Yes.

Thanks, just to add to my knowledge, below are the taxes added. The flight from the US is AA, which by itself only has $5.60 tax.

How does adding an IB flight MAD-TLV add a bunch of new US taxes?


CARRIER-IMPOSED FEES   $45.20 USD
AIRPORT SERVICE CHARGE(Prev RS)   $26.00 USD
SPAIN   
SECURITY TAX   $4.30 USD
SPAIN AND CANARY ISLAND   
TRANSPORTATION TAX   $17.70 USD
UNITED STATES   
PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE   $4.50 USD
UNITED STATES   
US SECURITY FEE   $5.60 USD
UNITED STATES   
OTHER TAXES   $0.70 USD
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on September 02, 2015, 06:00:54 PM
After a couple of more HUCA's I finally got to a competent rep that noticed something wrong (she said something about the flights only coming up under TAM and not under LAN). Waited 1/2 an hour on hold while she looked into it and she came back saying that it's an issue that has been reported (something along the lines of LAN Argentina not having released award inventory within SA to AA) and that they're working on it.  :-\
...and finally after calling every day to see if they can already book it, they were able to see availability again!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on September 12, 2015, 07:25:52 PM
Anyone else having trouble with AA seeing EY Guest First award space tonight?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Feivish on September 12, 2015, 11:21:59 PM
Does Dragon Air open up for partner award 24-36 hours before flight the way Cathay does?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: maxie m on September 17, 2015, 12:24:02 AM
Sorry if it's been asked before, does aa get the same award space as ba on one world partners?a rep told me no? ???
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on September 17, 2015, 12:25:37 AM
Sorry if it's been asked before, does aa get the same award space as ba on one world partners?a rep told me no? ???

Yes, not everything is bookable online though..
CX is bookable via ba.com but needs to be called in to AA for example
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: maxie m on September 17, 2015, 12:26:55 AM
AA saver yes.
stupid reps, thanks
Correct I was looking for cx which isn't available online
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on September 17, 2015, 12:27:51 AM
stupid reps, thanks

I changed my reply.. Didnt read the question properly.. Thought you were asking if aa saver is avail for ba
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on September 17, 2015, 12:28:52 AM
stupid reps, thanks
Correct I was looking for cx which isn't available online

They wont waive the phone booking fee even though its not bookable online. Sometimes you get lucky but usually not
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: maxie m on September 17, 2015, 12:30:13 AM
Interesting, the rep told me it would be waived, without me even asking, since it isn't bookable online
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on September 17, 2015, 12:31:23 AM
Interesting, the rep told me it would be waived, without me even asking, since it isn't bookable online

Luck, you need that more than brains :)
Or both :)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: maxie m on September 17, 2015, 12:34:12 AM
Luck, you need that more than brains :)
Or both :)
yep , now just a little more luck to secure my flights and I'll be all the happier :)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on September 17, 2015, 02:22:18 AM
They wont waive the phone booking fee even though its not bookable online. Sometimes you get lucky but usually not
-1

AA changed that rule this past February.

The AA Reservations Ticketing Service Charge will be waived for all members redeeming miles for awards that cannot be booked on aa.com" (https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/redeemMiles/award-travel.jsp#awardcharges")
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Chapshnell on September 17, 2015, 09:00:27 AM
-1

AA changed that rule this past February.

The AA Reservations Ticketing Service Charge will be waived for all members redeeming miles for awards that cannot be booked on aa.com" (https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/redeemMiles/award-travel.jsp#awardcharges")

thanks for the heads up  :) , somehow I didn't remember this..
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Einstein on September 17, 2015, 09:23:07 AM
-1

AA changed that rule this past February.

The AA Reservations Ticketing Service Charge will be waived for all members redeeming miles for awards that cannot be booked on aa.com" (https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/redeemMiles/award-travel.jsp#awardcharges")
Do we have to remind them? (like BA) or will they do it without asking?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on September 17, 2015, 09:25:59 AM
Do we have to remind them? (like BA) or will they do it without asking?
Depends on the rep. (but there's a difference between AA and BA, with AA it's an official rule, so as soon as you remind the rep, they'll waive it, but with BA it's not an official rule.)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on September 17, 2015, 09:37:06 AM
I just booked something a few weeks ago and I had no idea of the change in policy but the rep mentioned it on her own.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MrPrime1 on September 17, 2015, 02:02:29 PM
im looking to book jfk or ewr-hkg-dps in business one way on CX. AAs award chart said it is 55k each way. my question is, am i allowed to book one way award with a layover of a few hours in hkg or will i get charged for each leg?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on September 17, 2015, 02:03:19 PM
im looking to book jfk or ewr-hkg-dps in business one way on CX. AAs award chart said it is 55k each way. my question is, am i allowed to book one way award with a layover of a few hours in hkg or will i get charged for each leg?

<24 hours in HKG is allowed
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on September 17, 2015, 02:03:32 PM
im looking to book jfk or ewr-hkg-dps in business one way on CX. AAs award chart said it is 55k each way. my question is, am i allowed to book one way award with a layover of a few hours in hkg or will i get charged for each leg?
You should be able to get a few hours in HKG.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MrPrime1 on September 17, 2015, 02:05:57 PM
<24 hours in HKG is allowed
You should be able to get a few hours in HKG.

thanks!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on September 17, 2015, 11:55:22 PM
I have some US J awards on hold to TLV, site won't let me choose seats or even view seat map, I seem to remember last time it did let me choose a seat while holding
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Einstein on September 18, 2015, 02:11:14 AM
I have some US J awards on hold to TLV, site won't let me choose seats or even view seat map, I seem to remember last time it did let me choose a seat while holding
PUTPAC
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: LoLo on September 18, 2015, 12:38:46 PM
Does $239 for an infant LHR-JFK OW in Y make sense?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on September 18, 2015, 01:56:11 PM
Does $239 for an infant LHR-JFK OW in Y make sense?
On BA? Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: LoLo on September 18, 2015, 02:48:10 PM
On BA? Yes
AA metal, It's a flight that has been taken a few months ago already, but still think i overpaid, the JFK-LHR leg was $100 cheaper.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: zow on September 24, 2015, 01:02:17 PM
Is it correct that the redeposit fee for AA award would be $150?
(I can't find it on the AA website anywhere -- they just say subject to fee but don't give number -- but Lucky quoted this figure last year.)

Thanks.

Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on September 24, 2015, 01:28:11 PM
Is it correct that the redeposit fee for AA award would be $150?
(I can't find it on the AA website anywhere -- they just say subject to fee but don't give number -- but Lucky quoted this figure last year.)

Thanks.
Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: zow on September 24, 2015, 02:02:40 PM
Yes
Thanks.
So, here's the follow-up question:
I want to book MIA-BOS on 15May using 10,000 Avios in Economy, but no availability.
I could book in F using 40,000 Avios, and cancel (no penalty) even at last minute if Y becomes available.
Or, I could book in F using 22,500 AA miles, and then just forget about it (I wouldn't want to cancel, given the $150 penalty.)

What would you do? :-\
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on September 24, 2015, 02:04:42 PM
Thanks.
So, here's the follow-up question:
I want to book MIA-BOS on 15May using 10,000 Avios in Economy, but no availability.
I could book in F using 40,000 Avios, and cancel (no penalty) even at last minute if Y becomes available.
Or, I could book in F using 22,500 AA miles, and then just forget about it (I wouldn't want to cancel, given the $150 penalty.)

What would you do? :-\

I would wait/book F with Avios and be ready to cancel. You still have a while until the flight, and from my experience, there tends to be a lot of movement with availability unless it's a holiday weekend.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: zow on September 24, 2015, 02:08:34 PM
I would wait/book F with Avios and be ready to cancel. You still have a while until the flight, and from my experience, there tends to be a lot of movement with availability unless it's a holiday weekend.
Thanks. It's not a holiday weekend, so I think I will do that.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on October 06, 2015, 11:45:28 PM
I have a flight for 2 pax tomorrow morning, and the seat map shows only two bad seats. I need to select seats of I want to check in online. What have people's experiences been if they get the seats assigned at the airport?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Einstein on October 07, 2015, 12:47:41 AM
I have a flight for 2 pax tomorrow morning, and the seat map shows only two bad seats. I need to select seats of I want to check in online. What have people's experiences been if they get the seats assigned at the airport?
when u get to the counter, ask them to switch your seats they usually have more options and are willing to do it
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on October 07, 2015, 07:33:34 AM
when u get to the counter, ask them to switch your seats they usually have more options and are willing to do it

Will do, thanks.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on October 07, 2015, 10:14:00 AM
They stuck us in Main Cabin Extra. Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Einstein on October 07, 2015, 10:14:39 AM
They stuck us in Main Cabin Extra. Thanks for the tip.
pleasure! have a safe flight!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on October 08, 2015, 07:37:30 PM
Can I cancel a flight within 24 hours of departure if I booked it with aa AAdvantage miles and get the miles back?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: 1050BU on October 08, 2015, 07:42:24 PM
Can I cancel a flight within 24 hours of departure if I booked it with aa AAdvantage miles and get the miles back?

No. Can't cancel an AA ticket. Only holds.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on October 08, 2015, 07:42:57 PM
No. Can't cancel an AA ticket. Only holds.
-1

Of course you can cancel an award ticket
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MarkR on October 08, 2015, 08:06:56 PM
Looks like AA has lots of award availability to Europe right now. Pity that doesn't help us much to Israel.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on October 08, 2015, 08:16:39 PM
Can I cancel a flight within 24 hours of departure if I booked it with aa AAdvantage miles and get the miles back?
Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on October 09, 2015, 08:04:53 AM
Tried looking but couldn't seem to find it.

Is there a way (and if so how) to search the AA site for Award Travel and specify the search to AA Metal?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on October 09, 2015, 08:37:04 AM
Tried looking but couldn't seem to find it.

Is there a way (and if so how) to search the AA site for Award Travel and specify the search to AA Metal?
Advanced Search.

Under "what are your carrier preferences" click 'American Airlines and American Eagle'
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on October 09, 2015, 08:45:16 AM
Advanced Search.

Under "what are your carrier preferences" click 'American Airlines and American Eagle'

Thanks! Just used it but it still shows me BA.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on October 09, 2015, 08:46:46 AM
Thanks! Just used it but it still shows me BA.
Try incognito or something. I tried JFK-LHR and it only gave me AA

It could be that if nothing is available on AA it'll give you alternate options.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on October 09, 2015, 08:56:17 AM
Try incognito or something. I tried JFK-LHR and it only gave me AA

It could be that if nothing is available on AA it'll give you alternate options.

Just tried in a few browsers and incognito and got the same result. I guess it might just do what you suggested which to me is a bit useless but thanks anyways!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: David Smith on October 10, 2015, 09:43:45 PM
AAdvantage reduced rates for cardholders on some routes and dates.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/redeemMiles/reduced-mileage-awards.jsp
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: 1050BU on October 10, 2015, 09:59:32 PM

AAdvantage reduced rates for cardholders on some routes and dates.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/redeemMiles/reduced-mileage-awards.jsp

Nothing new. They have these a lot.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on October 11, 2015, 08:26:11 AM
Is EWR considered the same region as LGA? Can i change from EWR to LGA without penalty
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on October 11, 2015, 08:35:09 AM
Is EWR considered the same region as LGA? Can i switch from EWR to LGA without penalty

Hope this (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/08/04/airline-award-ticket-change-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-2073635) helps potentially.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on October 11, 2015, 08:37:32 AM
Hope this (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/08/04/airline-award-ticket-change-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-2073635) helps potentially.
That doesn't answer my question.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on October 11, 2015, 08:49:15 AM
That doesn't answer my question.

I thought it indicates that it isnt considered the same and that unless a nice rep waives it, the norm is to be charged.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on October 11, 2015, 09:08:31 AM
I thought it indicates that it isnt considered the same and that unless a nice rep waives it, the norm is to be charged.
Doesn't address my question at all
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on October 11, 2015, 09:23:21 AM
Is EWR considered the same region as LGA? Can i change from EWR to LGA without penalty
EWR and LGA are considered the same region/city.
Regarding paying a fee for switching to a different airport in the same city, see the comment  here (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/08/04/airline-award-ticket-change-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-2073635).
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Vosizderneias on October 11, 2015, 07:31:24 PM
when booking with aa miles, can I cancel my trip without penalty?
thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MEIR613 on October 11, 2015, 08:11:40 PM
Is EWR considered the same region as LGA? Can i change from EWR to LGA without penalty
Nope, you'll need to pay a fee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on October 11, 2015, 08:59:59 PM
when booking with aa miles, can I cancel my trip without penalty?
thanks
You can cancel for free, but it will cost $150 to redeposit the miles.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on October 16, 2015, 11:47:09 AM
Booked an award flight and used my Citi AA card to pay for the taxes, but realized after that I would have been better off putting it on my CSP because they give protection even when card is just used to pay for taxes. Is there anything I can do now, or too late?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: LoLo on October 16, 2015, 11:55:28 AM
AAdvantage reduced rates for cardholders on some routes and dates.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/redeemMiles/reduced-mileage-awards.jsp

Do they even have any reduced award for international destinations?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: itsyehuda on October 18, 2015, 12:49:26 PM
Can the passenger on an AA partner booking call in to make flight changes (same origin and destination) or do they require AH to call in?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jaywhy on October 18, 2015, 12:52:18 PM
Can the passenger on an AA partner booking call in to make flight changes (same origin and destination) or do they require AH to call in?
Pax can do it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on October 18, 2015, 05:14:51 PM
Booked an award flight and used my Citi AA card to pay for the taxes, but realized after that I would have been better off putting it on my CSP because they give protection even when card is just used to pay for taxes. Is there anything I can do now, or too late?

BUMP
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on October 19, 2015, 09:07:07 AM
BUMP
Maybe cancel and re-book. Though you may not want to risk losing the seats.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on October 19, 2015, 09:12:58 AM
Maybe cancel and re-book. Though you may not want to risk losing the seats.
Not worth redeposit fee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: NYHeel on October 19, 2015, 10:23:15 AM
Not sure if this question goes here but I figured it's better than starting a new thread.

I just booked 5 tickets on American from PHL to MCO in one way segments using my Citi thank you points and the 1.25% value. I would have gotten the Citi Prestige card for the extra American Airlines value (1.6 cents per point) except that I wasn't planning on flying American as they don't fly to MCO from the NYC area very frequently other than JFK. But there was a crazy good price from PHL ($86.20 round trip per ticket) that I couldn't pass up. It's only about an extra 90 minutes each way from my house past EWR.

Anyway, I booked the flights using my Thank You points with no cash at all. I have the Aviator American Airlines (the old Barclay US Airways card) and I did put in my AAdvantage number into the reservation. Does that mean I will get free checked bags for each direction even though I didn't pay anything on the Aviator card? Is there somewhere on the American site I can confirm? I haven't seen anything yet in my searches.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on October 19, 2015, 10:30:31 AM
As long as the FFN that has the CC is tied to the reservation, you'll get the free bag.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Josef.koney on October 19, 2015, 10:58:27 AM
Not sure if this question goes here but I figured it's better than starting a new thread.

I just booked 5 tickets on American from PHL to MCO in one way segments using my Citi thank you points and the 1.25% value. I would have gotten the Citi Prestige card for the extra American Airlines value (1.6 cents per point) except that I wasn't planning on flying American as they don't fly to MCO from the NYC area very frequently other than JFK. But there was a crazy good price from PHL ($86.20 round trip per ticket) that I couldn't pass up. It's only about an extra 90 minutes each way from my house past EWR.

Anyway, I booked the flights using my Thank You points with no cash at all. I have the Aviator American Airlines (the old Barclay US Airways card) and I did put in my AAdvantage number into the reservation. Does that mean I will get free checked bags for each direction even though I didn't pay anything on the Aviator card? Is there somewhere on the American site I can confirm? I haven't seen anything yet in my searches.
Should be fine. Not sure if this is always but when I have a credit card on the reservation when I get to the baggage charges it would say something like can't determine baggage fees at this time....
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on October 19, 2015, 11:58:18 AM
Not worth redeposit fee.

Ya, don't want to pay the redeposit fee. And would probably lose my seats. It's PHL-DOH-MLE in J. Lucky to find availability in the first place. Hopefully nothing goes wrong.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on October 28, 2015, 01:36:47 AM
Maybe AA should update their list, they still list Elal a partner :o

http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/earnMiles/airlines/main.jsp
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on October 28, 2015, 01:38:24 AM
They still list Elal a partner ??? :o

http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/earnMiles/airlines/main.jsp
But:
"Effective November 1, 2014, flights taken on EL AL will not earn AAdvantage miles due to the discontinuation of American's frequent flyer relationship with EL AL.

All award travel on EL AL must be booked and ticketed by October 31, 2014. Travel is valid one year after ticket date, and must be completed by October 31, 2015. No changes to the EL AL segments are allowed during that period."
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nafnaf12 on October 31, 2015, 07:44:29 PM
is there a way to get back expired AA miles?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on October 31, 2015, 11:07:47 PM
is there a way to get back expired AA miles?
Get a retro credit via a car rental from before the miles expired.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on October 31, 2015, 11:40:12 PM
Or you can reactivate for a charge https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/earnMiles/reactivate-miles.jsp

They also sometimes offer a challenge like earning a certain amount of miles, etc.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nafnaf12 on October 31, 2015, 11:44:11 PM
Get a retro credit via a car rental from before the miles expired.
can you please elaborate on how to do that ? i have 90k  i need to get back
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on October 31, 2015, 11:51:27 PM
can you please elaborate on how to do that ? i have 90k  i need to get back
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/50750
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nafnaf12 on November 01, 2015, 12:12:07 AM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/50750
thank you was looking for that post couldn't find  it
much appreciated
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nafnaf12 on November 01, 2015, 01:30:03 AM
how do i find out when my miles expired?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: David Smith on November 01, 2015, 01:32:22 AM
how do i find out when my miles expired?
Putpac?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nafnaf12 on November 01, 2015, 01:34:06 AM
Putpac?
only open Monday at 8am don't want to wait that long  :'(
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on November 01, 2015, 10:51:21 AM
only open Monday at 8am don't want to wait that long  :'(
24 hours is not going to make a difference.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nafnaf12 on November 01, 2015, 11:08:43 AM
24 hours is not going to make a difference.
true, just wanted to know if there was a way to do it online, that way I can started
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: lubaby on November 01, 2015, 11:51:40 AM
true, just wanted to know if there was a way to do it online, that way I can started
You should be able to see it online under account history. They might only show the past 6 months though.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: srulky on November 01, 2015, 09:12:33 PM
Are AA flights booked with miles (business class) refundable? did i see there is a $150 fee someplace? Does it make a difference if its reg. or business class? TIA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on November 01, 2015, 09:14:12 PM
Are AA flights booked with miles (business class) refundable? did i see there is a $150 fee someplace? Does it make a difference if its reg. or business class? TIA
No
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: srulky on November 01, 2015, 09:18:56 PM
Can i downgrade from business to coach without penalty?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on November 01, 2015, 09:23:09 PM
Can i downgrade from business to coach without penalty?
Of you don't mind losing the difference in miles. ???

The redeposit fee is $150, ever for difference in miles cost.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nafnaf12 on November 02, 2015, 12:57:38 PM
so turns out they expired in july 2014
would a rental receipt from b4 that work?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 02, 2015, 12:59:45 PM
so turns out they expired in july 2014
would a rental receipt from b4 that work?
Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nafnaf12 on November 02, 2015, 01:03:13 PM
great thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: a mirrer on November 02, 2015, 01:25:27 PM
Yes
dan once wrote that they only credit up to a year retroactively
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nafnaf12 on November 02, 2015, 01:27:26 PM
dan once wrote that they only credit up to a year retroactively
who is they ? the rental company? if yes all of them have same policy?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: nafnaf12 on November 02, 2015, 01:30:26 PM
Yes
if i  got hertz gold rewards that means u cant ask for airline miles  right?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 06, 2015, 06:47:38 AM
Rumor: Big AAdvantage Program Changes Coming In 2016

HT: OMAAT (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2015/11/05/aadvantage-changes-2016/)
Title: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on November 08, 2015, 10:20:02 AM
Does AA show air Tahiti flights, or do I have to check somewhere else ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yordai Dooma on November 08, 2015, 10:24:27 AM
Does AA show air Tahiti flights, or do I have to check somewhere else ?
Expert flyer.
Or call AA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on November 15, 2015, 01:14:28 PM
AA site gives me an error every time i click continue after choosing a date from the calendar, being happening for the past couple days. anyone know what my issue is?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 15, 2015, 01:22:27 PM
AA site gives me an error every time i click continue after choosing a date from the calendar, being happening for the past couple days. anyone know what my issue is?

Not just your issue. Their system has been down lately.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 15, 2015, 01:33:29 PM

AA site gives me an error every time i click continue after choosing a date from the calendar, being happening for the past couple days. anyone know what my issue is?

+.5

Didn't work for days but then started working for me again Friday afternoon est. haven't checked since.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Feivish on November 18, 2015, 10:06:25 PM
Need to do a date change for a J ticket to a day with only Y availability. Will they charge me to re-deposit? Is there anything similar to UA plan B in regards to not having to pay a re-deposit fee and being able to get back into J if it opens up?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on November 18, 2015, 10:59:08 PM
Need to do a date change for a J ticket to a day with only Y availability. Will they charge me to re-deposit? Is there anything similar to UA plan B in regards to not having to pay a re-deposit fee and being able to get back into J if it opens up?
They will charge for re deposit
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: an613 on November 19, 2015, 08:32:17 AM
Does anyone know when CX releases F availability for upcoming flights? Is it at a certain time of day? Certain number of hours before flight?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 19, 2015, 08:51:23 AM
Does anyone know when CX releases F availability for upcoming flights? Is it at a certain time of day? Certain number of hours before flight?

Y? J? F?  If F, I am not familiar with an exact pattern but you can definitely find availability short term i.e. several days out.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: an613 on November 19, 2015, 08:53:42 AM

Y? J? F?  If F, I am not familiar with an exact pattern but you can definitely find availability short term i.e. several days out.

Both J and F. I assume they get released at the same time but I suppose could be different

Right I know generally it's several days out but trying to figure out if there is a specific time frame it's released to increase my chances.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: shauly on November 19, 2015, 08:56:33 AM
Both J and F. I assume they get released at the same time but I suppose could be different

Right I know generally it's several days out but trying to figure out if there is a specific time frame it's released to increase my chances.

From my experience, F is usually within 2 days, J can be a few more days out.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on November 19, 2015, 08:57:12 AM
He wants to know if x days before a flight at xx:xx EST they get released. My answer is just follow the trends for flight dates ahead of yours to get an idea.

If your luck is like mine, there will be a clear trend for every day leading up to your date then your date will not follow the trend.  :-\
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 19, 2015, 09:00:24 AM
He wants to know if x days before a flight at xx:xx EST they get released. My answer is just follow the trends for flight dates ahead of yours to get an idea.

If your luck is like mine, there will be a clear trend for every day leading up to your date then your date will not follow the trend.  :-\

 :(

What were you looking for?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: eliraps on November 19, 2015, 09:04:38 AM
AA site gives me an error every time i click continue after choosing a date from the calendar, being happening for the past couple days. anyone know what my issue is?
+.5

Didn't work for days but then started working for me again Friday afternoon est. haven't checked since.

Any updates on this? Nothing working for me and I need to reserve a ticket.
What's the best time of day to call and what are the hold times currently like?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on November 19, 2015, 09:05:27 AM
:(

What were you looking for?
Nothing specific recently. Just sharing my experience.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: an613 on November 19, 2015, 09:05:54 AM

He wants to know if x days before a flight at xx:xx EST they get released. My answer is just follow the trends for flight dates ahead of yours to get an idea.

If your luck is like mine, there will be a clear trend for every day leading up to your date then your date will not follow the trend.  :-\

Exactly.

Hmm ok. Only have a few days until trip so won't have a lot of data points but I guess I'll just constantly check. Thanks.

No way to get alerts from EF, right (through a partner or something)?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 19, 2015, 09:07:29 AM
Exactly.

Hmm ok. Only have a few days until trip so won't have a lot of data points but I guess I'll just constantly check. Thanks.

No way to get alerts from EF, right (through a partner or something)?

I just looked yesterday and saw F seats for several days in the near future. Check the rare award thread.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: an613 on November 19, 2015, 09:14:20 AM

I just looked yesterday and saw F seats for several days in the near future. Check the rare award thread.

O awesome. Those are the days I need but not the right times . If there are seats for some flights does that mean there's nothing on other flights or do they release diff flights at diff times?

Also, BA site will show F when available, right?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 19, 2015, 09:15:53 AM
O awesome. Those are the days I need but not the right times . If there are seats for some flights does that mean there's nothing on other flights or do they release diff flights at diff times?

Also, BA site will show F when available, right?

Yes. BA is pretty reliable. If you see F and J seats on the flights you need, just book the F and J separately and keep monitoring/calling AA until the last minute. You can upgrade for no fee with just the additional required miles if you should see an extra F seat open up.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: eliraps on November 19, 2015, 09:16:06 AM
I just looked yesterday and saw F seats for several days in the near future. Check the rare award thread.

You got AA's system to work yesterday???
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 19, 2015, 09:16:47 AM
You got AA's system to work yesterday???

I check CX on BA. Furthermore, people have reported getting AA to work when logged in.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: eliraps on November 19, 2015, 09:22:42 AM
people have reported getting AA to work when logged in.

Thanks for that. worked!

Just thinking, if I book an AA award in J on BA metal and closer to the time availability opens up on AA metal, might it be worth it to cancel and rebook on AA and save a few hundred dollars YQ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 19, 2015, 09:24:11 AM
Thanks for that. worked!

Just thinking, if I book an AA award in J on BA metal and closer to the time availability opens up on AA metal, might it be worth it to cancel and rebook on AA and save a few hundred dollars YQ?

I will let others chime in on that but I assume its a simple math problem. If BA YQ > then rebooking fee + new AA taxes then Id say yes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: an613 on November 19, 2015, 09:29:28 AM

Yes. BA is pretty reliable. If you see F and J seats on the flights you need, just book the F and J separately and keep monitoring/calling AA until the last minute. You can upgrade for no fee with just the additional required miles if you should see an extra F seat open up.

Ok thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 19, 2015, 10:13:03 AM
Thanks for that. worked!

Just thinking, if I book an AA award in J on BA metal and closer to the time availability opens up on AA metal, might it be worth it to cancel and rebook on AA and save a few hundred dollars YQ?
I will let others chime in on that but I assume its a simple math problem. If BA YQ > then rebooking fee + new AA taxes then Id say yes.

No need to cancel and rebook. If you are keeping the same o/d, you can switch to AA metal for free and get a refund of the difference in taxes/YQ.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on November 19, 2015, 10:53:21 AM
I can hold a CX flight when using AA miles, correct ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 19, 2015, 10:55:38 AM

I can hold a CX flight when using AA miles, correct ?

Yes. 5 days.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: an613 on November 21, 2015, 05:52:02 PM
Yes. BA is pretty reliable. If you see F and J seats on the flights you need, just book the F and J separately and keep monitoring/calling AA until the last minute. You can upgrade for no fee with just the additional required miles if you should see an extra F seat open up.

Update: Got 1 J and 1 F on Thurs. Found a second F 10 minutes before shabbas and was able to book it with 2 minutes to spare. I love this game!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 21, 2015, 06:12:58 PM
Update: Got 1 J and 1 F on Thurs. Found a second F 10 minutes before shabbas and was able to book it with 2 minutes to spare. I love this game!

Congrats!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: eliraps on November 21, 2015, 06:49:20 PM
No need to cancel and rebook. If you are keeping the same o/d, you can switch to AA metal for free and get a refund of the difference in taxes/YQ.

Thanks.
O/d ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 21, 2015, 06:53:10 PM
Thanks.
O/d ?

Origin/Destination
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: eliraps on November 22, 2015, 11:53:20 AM
If i cancel an award seat that i have on hold (on aa metal), how long should it take to show up on the inventory of available seats?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: PETERP on November 22, 2015, 12:08:23 PM
If i cancel an award seat that i have on hold (on aa metal), how long should it take to show up on the inventory of available seats?

God only knows . Even he is not sure .
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: eliraps on November 22, 2015, 12:11:41 PM
a range?

10-20 min?
1-5 hr?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 22, 2015, 12:39:05 PM
a range?

10-20 min?
1-5 hr?

Never?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on November 22, 2015, 02:21:27 PM
If i cancel an award seat that i have on hold (on aa metal), how long should it take to show up on the inventory of available seats?

IME when I've done it (I usually put flights on hold with AA and then call it in to book with BA), it goes back into inventory right away.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on November 22, 2015, 02:33:03 PM
IME when I've done it (I usually put flights on hold with AA and then call it in to book with BA), it goes back into inventory right away.
-1

Not always
a range?

10-20 min?
1-5 hr?
YMMV, if ever
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: PETERP on November 22, 2015, 02:53:13 PM
-1

Not alwaysYMMV, if ever

+1. That's why I said what I said.
IME it has not gotten back in inventory
again at all .
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on November 22, 2015, 03:04:21 PM
+1. That's why I said what I said.
IME it has not gotten back in inventory
again at all .
And why I said "when I've done it." I know that doesn't always happen. Just saying my experience.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: PETERP on November 22, 2015, 03:59:08 PM
And why I said "when I've done it." I know that doesn't always happen. Just saying my experience.

Didn't see your post at all . Reading on
phone reiterating Hershel's comment .
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: solls108 on November 22, 2015, 04:54:45 PM
On dansdeals website it says travel between NYC-BOS is 4.5/7.5k. Looking to fly Tuesday. How would I know which one it is?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: David Smith on November 22, 2015, 04:57:25 PM
On dansdeals website it says travel between NYC-BOS is 4.5/7.5k. Looking to fly Tuesday. How would I know which one it is?
On avios is 4.5. Plenty of availability this Tuesday. JetBlue is $58.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 22, 2015, 04:58:49 PM
On dansdeals website it says travel between NYC-BOS is 4.5/7.5k. Looking to fly Tuesday. How would I know which one it is?

It says it in the first line of the DDMS article:

4.5K/7.5K means if you book before 02/02 (for travel anytime in 2016) the rate is 4.5K, but on 02/02 the rate will change to 7.5K.

And here the deval (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/76422).
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: solls108 on November 22, 2015, 07:00:41 PM
On avios is 4.5. Plenty of availability this Tuesday. JetBlue is $58.
i only see on Tuesday from $144
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 22, 2015, 07:03:28 PM
i only see on Tuesday from $144

He is talking about wide open award availability on Tuesday to Boston. Isn't that what you are asking about?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: David Smith on November 22, 2015, 07:13:52 PM
i only see on Tuesday from $144
You're right. I must have looked at the wrong date.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: solls108 on November 22, 2015, 07:17:51 PM
He is talking about wide open award availability on Tuesday to Boston. Isn't that what you are asking about?
im talking about Avios availability. Don't know if it makes sense to transfer from Amex to JetBlue
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 22, 2015, 07:27:55 PM
im talking about Avios availability. Don't know if it makes sense to transfer from Amex to JetBlue

Yes. Again, thats what I said.

Wide open award availability on Tuesday to Boston. Isn't that what you are asking about?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: harrym on November 23, 2015, 05:28:13 AM
If I Book a OW award and pay the $75 close in fee, can I later add the return onto the same booking to avoid the paying twice? and vice versa?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: lubaby on November 23, 2015, 07:04:03 AM
AA doesn't charge a change fee on award flights. Only $150 to cancel/redeposit.

This could potentially work for you.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 23, 2015, 07:20:57 AM
If I Book a OW award and pay the $75 close in fee, can I later add the return onto the same booking to avoid the paying twice? and vice versa?

No.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 23, 2015, 07:56:20 AM
$150?

Correct, because it would require and redeposit and new booking.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: solls108 on November 23, 2015, 09:04:13 AM
On AA award it says that taxes are $80.60 per award on a flight from NYC - BOS. Is this true? Not 5.60?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 23, 2015, 09:06:51 AM
On AA award it says that taxes are $80.60 per award on a flight from NYC - BOS. Is this true? Not 5.60?

You need to  book this via Avios.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: solls108 on November 23, 2015, 09:07:56 AM
You need to  book this via Avios.
Than it will be 5.60, correct? Never booked avios yet, best way is to call singapore?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 23, 2015, 09:09:18 AM
Than it will be 5.60, correct? Never booked avios yet, best way is to call singapore?

Yes. Then it will be $5.60 OW. Try just booking it online first.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: solls108 on November 23, 2015, 09:10:54 AM
Yes. Then it will be $5.60 OW. Try just booking it online first.
On BA.com, correct? [sorry for the q's, first time using avios]
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 23, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
On BA.com, correct? [sorry for the q's, first time using avios]

Belongs in the Avios thread. Yes- on BA.com.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: solls108 on November 23, 2015, 09:15:05 AM
 
Belongs in the Avios thread. Yes- on BA.com.
Found it all, thanks benjie!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mmm740 on November 23, 2015, 03:45:43 PM
On AA award it says that taxes are $80.60 per award on a flight from NYC - BOS. Is this true? Not 5.60?
That includes a $75 close-in fee when booking within 21 days with AA.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: shimbo on November 24, 2015, 01:56:37 PM
Sorry if this has been asked already, I read a few pages didn't find it:

If I book an economy anytime award jfk-lax for 30k one way, then business saver space opens up, will they switch me and refund 5k? What would they charge?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on November 24, 2015, 03:27:10 PM
Sorry if this has been asked already, I read a few pages didn't find it:

If I book an economy anytime award jfk-lax for 30k one way, then business saver space opens up, will they switch me and refund 5k? What would they charge?
$150 if you want those miles back.

But IME its more likely that F opens up on that route than J.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: shimbo on November 24, 2015, 03:39:34 PM
$150 if you want those miles back.

But IME its more likely that F opens up on that route than J.
thanks
They would allow me to forfeit the 5k and not pay $150?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on November 24, 2015, 03:41:12 PM
thanks
They would allow me to forfeit the 5k and not pay $150?
Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hatastah on November 24, 2015, 06:55:25 PM
What would LHR-AUH-JNB in F on Etihad cost in AA mileage?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: aradisc on November 24, 2015, 07:05:30 PM
What would LHR-AUH-JNB in F on Etihad cost in AA mileage?

AA doesn't let you transit the Middle East between Europe and Africa so it would price separately as 40K + 60K = 100K. But I think Etihad may only fly to JNB on Jet Airways A330s without first class?  So 40K in F LHR-AUH + 45K in J AUH-JNB = 85K
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on November 24, 2015, 10:50:08 PM
So I've been trying to book CPT-LAX like this: CPT-DOH-AUH-LAX, with the first 2 segments on QR and the last segment on EY.

First I first booked CPT-DOH-AUH and then called to add AUH-LAX. It priced as 2 awards

Then I cancelled that and booked AUH-LAX and then called to add on CPT-DOH-AUH and again it priced as two awards.

Does this make sense? I thought transiting through DOH was supposed to allow you to travel CPT-LAX on one award? Any suggestions?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ual902 on November 24, 2015, 10:52:48 PM
So I've been trying to book CPT-LAX like this: CPT-DOH-AUH-LAX, with the first 2 segments on QR and the last segment on EY.

First I first booked CPT-DOH-AUH and then called to add AUH-LAX. It priced as 2 awards

Then I cancelled that and booked AUH-LAX and then called to add on CPT-DOH-AUH and again it priced as two awards.

Does this make sense? I thought transiting through DOH was supposed to allow you to travel CPT-LAX on one award? Any suggestions?

CPT > AUH is 1 Award
AUH > LAX is another award

That is how AA prices this.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on November 24, 2015, 11:16:15 PM
CPT > AUH is 1 Award
AUH > LAX is another award

That is how AA prices this.
Yet CPT-DOH-LAX is one award. That's why I wanted to if I can somehow string them together.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 25, 2015, 12:27:04 AM
So I've been trying to book CPT-LAX like this: CPT-DOH-AUH-LAX, with the first 2 segments on QR and the last segment on EY.

First I first booked CPT-DOH-AUH and then called to add AUH-LAX. It priced as 2 awards

Then I cancelled that and booked AUH-LAX and then called to add on CPT-DOH-AUH and again it priced as two awards.

Does this make sense? I thought transiting through DOH was supposed to allow you to travel CPT-LAX on one award? Any suggestions?

More likely a MPM issue -
CPT-LAX = 9993
CPT-DOH-AUH-LAX = 13205
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on November 25, 2015, 12:27:33 AM
More likely a MPM issue -
CPT-LAX = 9993
CPT-DOH-AUH-LAX = 13205
Good point
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Jimgotkp on November 25, 2015, 12:34:36 AM
MPM isn't the issue. Can't combine non-OW airlines with OW airlines on these awards. So, have to do QR instead of EY unless you're willing to pay for two separate awards.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 25, 2015, 12:36:34 AM
MPM isn't the issue. Can't combine non-OW airlines with OW airlines on these awards. So, have to do QR instead of EY unless you're willing to pay for two separate awards.

-1
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hatastah on November 25, 2015, 02:45:50 AM

AA doesn't let you transit the Middle East between Europe and Africa so it would price separately as 40K + 60K = 100K. But I think Etihad may only fly to JNB on Jet Airways A330s without first class?  So 40K in F LHR-AUH + 45K in J AUH-JNB = 85K
Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on November 25, 2015, 08:25:47 AM
More likely a MPM issue -
CPT-LAX = 9993
CPT-DOH-AUH-LAX = 13205
CPT-DOH-LAX = 12921

Exceeds the MPM as well.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on November 25, 2015, 09:04:13 AM
CPT-DOH-LAX = 12921

Exceeds the MPM as well.
But is still permitted, at least hypothetically if QR had space, on one award.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on November 25, 2015, 09:06:41 AM
But is still permitted, at least hypothetically if QR had space, on one award.
That's kinda my point. Not sure how it's an MPM issue if you already surpassed the max.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 25, 2015, 10:07:09 AM
But is still permitted, at least hypothetically if QR had space, on one award.

What makes you say it's permitted on one award?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on November 25, 2015, 10:40:14 AM
What makes you say it's permitted on one award?
See here (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/06/05/american-aadvantage-miles-can-now-used-africa-via-middle-east/) and here (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/06/06/new-american-aadvantage-award-routing-exceptions/).

If I understand it correctly, seems like the reason you can't do AUH is because in order for this exception to work QR needs to get you from origin region to your destination region.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on November 25, 2015, 10:47:47 AM
See here (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/06/05/american-aadvantage-miles-can-now-used-africa-via-middle-east/) and here (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/06/06/new-american-aadvantage-award-routing-exceptions/).

If I understand it correctly, seems like the reason you can't do AUH is because in order for this exception to work QR needs to get you from origin region to your destination region.
Hey, you beat me to it. You can also see here (http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2015/09/06/best-strategy-for-an-american-airlines-africa-flyer-get-to-africa/) and here (http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2015/06/17/the-updated-ultimate-guide-to-booking-award-tickets-using-american-miles/).

I just thought that if you transited DOH it'd count. I wanted to try to find QR space to the US to try it out, but no luck so far.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on November 25, 2015, 10:55:57 AM
Hey, you beat me to it. You can also see here (http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2015/09/06/best-strategy-for-an-american-airlines-africa-flyer-get-to-africa/) and here (http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2015/06/17/the-updated-ultimate-guide-to-booking-award-tickets-using-american-miles/).

I just thought that if you transited DOH it'd count. I wanted to try to find QR space to the US to try it out, but no luck so far.
I recall someone mentioning availability in May. Just checked and indeed there's availability DOH-JFK.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on November 25, 2015, 11:13:12 AM
Can you cancel a hold online or do you need to call? Online it says you need to call to get your miles back, but no miles were ever deducted since it's just a hold.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 25, 2015, 11:20:40 AM
Can you cancel a hold online or do you need to call? Online it says you need to call to get your miles back, but no miles were ever deducted since it's just a hold.

Why is there a need to cancel it? The hold expires after 5 days and will not be ticketed unless you tell them to.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on November 25, 2015, 11:21:30 AM
Why is there a need to cancel it? The hold expires after 5 days and will not be ticketed unless you tell them to.
Well if I want to ticket it but on a different AA account and there's only those 2 seats left I'd need to cancel it and rebook on the other account, no?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on November 25, 2015, 11:22:11 AM
Why is there a need to cancel it? The hold expires after 5 days and will not be ticketed unless you tell them to.
Maybe he wants the seats back in inventory.

IIRC, it goes by how you originally placed the hold. If you did it over the phone you'd need to call to cancel.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 25, 2015, 11:39:42 AM
See here (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/06/05/american-aadvantage-miles-can-now-used-africa-via-middle-east/) and here (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/06/06/new-american-aadvantage-award-routing-exceptions/).

If I understand it correctly, seems like the reason you can't do AUH is because in order for this exception to work QR needs to get you from origin region to your destination region.
Hey, you beat me to it. You can also see here (http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2015/09/06/best-strategy-for-an-american-airlines-africa-flyer-get-to-africa/) and here (http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2015/06/17/the-updated-ultimate-guide-to-booking-award-tickets-using-american-miles/).

I just thought that if you transited DOH it'd count. I wanted to try to find QR space to the US to try it out, but no luck so far.

Interesting, so the "DOH exception" allows you to exceed the MPM?

And I guess Dan was incorrect when he said this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=45068.msg1212214#msg1212214)?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on November 25, 2015, 11:48:12 AM


Dan was incorrect

Blasphemy!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on November 25, 2015, 12:06:34 PM
Interesting, so the "DOH exception" allows you to exceed the MPM?

And I guess Dan was incorrect when he said this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=45068.msg1212214#msg1212214)?
Correct.

Blasphemy!
Lol
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 25, 2015, 12:08:35 PM
Correct.

Ok, so back to my question -

Asia 2 to Europe is only allowed via DOH.

I just put the following on hold: SIN-DOH (QR)-AMM-KBP (RJ) and the rep priced it as 1 award (Asia 2 to Europe) in J for 52.5k.
What's the reason behind this, does 1 leg on QR metal and a stop in DOH give it the "DOH exception" even though it's also connecting in AMM on RJ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 25, 2015, 12:38:08 PM
Wanted to put something into the Wiki just to realize that this thread doesn't have one. Well, I added my data point now. Feel free to add to the Wiki.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: TAVI on November 25, 2015, 01:29:10 PM
does anyone know if AA award tickets are eligible for complimentary Executive Platinum upgrades?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 25, 2015, 01:30:49 PM
does anyone know if AA award tickets are eligible for complimentary Executive Platinum upgrades?

Can only be used on paid flights.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: TAVI on November 25, 2015, 01:37:15 PM
Can only be used on paid flights.

Thank you
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: davidd75 on November 25, 2015, 02:20:39 PM
Do all/some of the AA flights from NYC-LAX have flat lie down seats on business class?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 25, 2015, 02:30:29 PM
Do all/some of the AA flights from NYC-LAX have flat lie down seats on business class?

The A321T flies lieflat J on that route.

Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 25, 2015, 02:49:48 PM
Do all/some of the AA flights from NYC-LAX have flat lie down seats on business class?

All
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: davidd75 on November 25, 2015, 02:57:55 PM
All

are you sure? prior post said only certain flights
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 25, 2015, 02:59:33 PM
are you sure? prior post said only certain flights

We are both right. He is "righter" because the A321 that I mentioned actually is the ONLY aircraft flying that route.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 25, 2015, 03:01:55 PM
are you sure?

Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: davidd75 on November 25, 2015, 03:35:27 PM
I would rather not use points for my infant on business class so:

does anybody know if on business class for this route you can place infant comfortably somewhere without holding him the whole flight.  for example since there is more  room in Business class will they let you bring in baby seat or do you have any other ideas?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on November 25, 2015, 03:36:50 PM
They may let you bring one on if extra seats. Have you even tried finding seats yet? Space is not great.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: davidd75 on November 25, 2015, 04:40:42 PM
They may let you bring one on if extra seats. Have you even tried finding seats yet? Space is not great.

I am assuming an extra seat on this flight JFK-LAX on Jan 17 will be very unlikley?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on November 25, 2015, 04:41:20 PM
I am assuming an extra seat on this flight JFK-LAX on Jan 17 will be very unlikley?
Have you found seats for yourself yet?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: davidd75 on November 25, 2015, 04:41:37 PM
They may let you bring one on if extra seats. Have you even tried finding seats yet? Space is not great.

I have a hold reservation on 2 business class seats already
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on November 25, 2015, 04:44:25 PM
I have a hold reservation on 2 business class seats already
You can check the seat map as it gets closer. It is still a  YMMV if they will let you bring the carseat.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mmm740 on November 25, 2015, 09:09:39 PM
Well if I want to ticket it but on a different AA account and there's only those 2 seats left I'd need to cancel it and rebook on the other account, no?
You can ticket the hold from a different account.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on November 25, 2015, 09:10:57 PM
You can ticket the hold from a different account.
Good to know. Thanks.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 26, 2015, 12:44:02 PM
AA.com is showing alot of QF F phantom availability LHR-DXB.

What has happened to AA.com's great award search of old?!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Dan on November 26, 2015, 12:48:05 PM
AA.com is showing alot of QF F phantom availability LHR-DXB.

What has happened to AA.com's great award search of old?!
Dougified!
All Douged up!
Your pick.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 26, 2015, 06:40:19 PM
Has anyone put TLV-AMM-BAH-... (RJ-GF) on one award recently?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: srap on November 29, 2015, 01:51:13 PM
Is there any way around the ~$75 close in fee (like other airlines)?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 29, 2015, 02:01:38 PM
Is there any way around the ~$75 close in fee (like other airlines)?

Sure, with status.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: davidd75 on November 30, 2015, 09:40:56 AM
They may let you bring one on if extra seats. Have you even tried finding seats yet? Space is not great.

I have until tonight to book my hold on 2 business class OW (saver award  seats) JFK-LAX on AA.   Is this very rare to find 2 saver award business seats?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on November 30, 2015, 09:44:41 AM
I have until tonight to book my hold on 2 business class OW (saver award  seats) JFK-LAX on AA.   Is this very rare to find 2 saver award business seats?
In my searches i have not seen many J Saver seats on that flight. If I had a choice, I would take it over F and save the miles.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sharkky on November 30, 2015, 09:55:30 AM
after making reservation i still hav the miles in my account          ??
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on November 30, 2015, 10:13:02 AM
after making reservation i still hav the miles in my account          ??
What is your question?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sharkky on November 30, 2015, 10:20:45 AM
What is your question?
i made a reservation in october and the miles were never deducted from my account
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on November 30, 2015, 10:30:24 AM
i made a reservation in october and the miles were never deducted from my account
Did you fly already? Was the flight ticketed if not flown?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sharkky on November 30, 2015, 10:31:29 AM
Did you fly already? Was the flight ticketed if not flown?
didnt fly yet
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on November 30, 2015, 10:33:42 AM
didnt fly yet
Does the flight show as being ticketed online?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sharkky on November 30, 2015, 10:37:54 AM
Does the flight show as being ticketed online?
ticketed meaning its not just a free hold?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 30, 2015, 10:41:02 AM
ticketed meaning its not just a free hold?

A hold doesnt get deducted. If it is ticketed, the miles should be deducted.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: davidd75 on November 30, 2015, 10:42:03 AM
In my searches i have not seen many J Saver seats on that flight. If I had a choice, I would take it over F and save the miles.

I am using 25k each person OW

what do you mean save the miles?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 30, 2015, 10:43:50 AM
I am using 25k each person OW

what do you mean save the miles?

He is agreeing with you in saying that he would take it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sharkky on November 30, 2015, 10:45:05 AM
A hold doesnt get deducted. If it is ticketed, the miles should be deducted.
its deff not a hold
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: davidd75 on November 30, 2015, 10:45:26 AM
He is agreeing with you in saying that he would take it.

is there much of a difference between J and First on these flights?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: lubaby on November 30, 2015, 10:45:37 AM
is there much of a difference between J and First on these flights?
Not much of an upgrade over J on the A321 Transcon.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on November 30, 2015, 10:52:54 AM
its deff not a hold

Go to your reservation on AA.com, does the status show "on hold", "on request" or "ticketed"?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sharkky on November 30, 2015, 10:54:11 AM
Does the status show "on hold", "on request" or "ticketed"?
il check later to be 100% sure
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on November 30, 2015, 10:56:06 AM
il check later to be 100% sure

Go to your reservation on AA.com, does the status show "on hold", "on request" or "ticketed"?

Those 2 means no miles deducted. Ticketed will have them be deducted.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on November 30, 2015, 11:22:05 AM
is there much of a difference between J and First on these flights?
No, which is why J would be perfectly fine on the flight.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on November 30, 2015, 11:30:45 AM
is there much of a difference between J and First on these flights?
If it was me, I'd chose F when flying alone and J when with someone else.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sharkky on November 30, 2015, 12:21:11 PM
il check later to be 100% sure
i double checked and its ticketed     I did switch airports after booking and got the 150$ fee waived    Cud that be relevant? Maybe the agent messed up when changing my flight and didnt charge me miles
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: davidd75 on November 30, 2015, 12:28:21 PM
If it was me, I'd chose F when flying alone and J when with someone else.

why?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on November 30, 2015, 12:39:55 PM
why?
(http://i.imgur.com/GcxEqRV.jpg)

This should answer your question (And you'll save 7.5k X 2  :P).
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: thaber on December 01, 2015, 11:26:38 AM
If it was me, I'd chose F when flying alone and J when with someone else.
+1. The 321 F has some nice perks,  especially on the ground.  But you can't sit next to someone,  and the J seats are a drop wider
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on December 01, 2015, 11:30:47 AM
+1. The 321 F has some nice perks,  especially on the ground.  But you can't sit next to someone,  and the J F seats are a drop wider
FTFY.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: thaber on December 01, 2015, 11:50:14 AM
FTFY.
to clarify, I didn't mean the seat cushion, but the whole matzav. especially when lying down. I thought it was just me, but heard this unsolicited from 2 others. It may just be a function of the reverse herringbone, or just in our heads.
Otherwise the flagship check in is the biggest maalah
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on December 01, 2015, 11:57:06 AM
to clarify, I didn't mean the seat cushion, but the whole matzav. especially when lying down. I thought it was just me, but heard this unsolicited from 2 others. It may just be a function of the reverse herringbone, or just in our heads.
Otherwise the flagship check in is the biggest maalah
Are you saying J feels more spacious?

F has the reverse herringbone layout as well.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: thaber on December 01, 2015, 11:58:33 AM
Are you saying J feels more spacious?

F has the reverse herringbone layout as well.
I am saying that. The J herringbone seems wider in the leg area than the J. Again, might be in my head
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on December 02, 2015, 09:43:55 PM
The Flagship experience is worth the premium. What a breeze.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on December 02, 2015, 11:25:48 PM
I am saying that. The J herringbone seems wider in the leg area than the J. Again, might be in my head
I felt the same way.

I'm not a tall guy by any measure but my legs felt more cramped in F than J.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 06, 2015, 03:28:31 PM
Trying to book CX F for post d-day (03/22). I'm not finding F or even J at this point. I'm booking for end of March so I'm assuming I'll find J before d-day. If I find F post devaluation will I be charged the 12.5k extra or 40k? Fat chance, right? Maybe??
Any way to somehow get on an upgrade list and pay the miles pre deval?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 06, 2015, 04:31:25 PM
Trying to book CX F for post d-day (03/22). I'm not finding F or even J at this point. I'm booking for end of March so I'm assuming I'll find J before d-day. If I find F post devaluation will I be charged the 12.5k extra or 40k? Fat chance, right? Maybe??
Any way to somehow get on an upgrade list and pay the miles pre deval?

Consensus seems to be that you'll be charged post deval prices for the upgrade.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ual902 on December 06, 2015, 04:40:28 PM
Right now I see JFK>GIG 20K for Coach May 2016, will that change after March 22nd?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 06, 2015, 04:44:05 PM
Right now I see JFK>GIG 20K for Coach May 2016, will that change after March 22nd?

You see 20k bc that is during off peak season. For regular peak season it doesn't change in Y (30k). I don't currently see them offering an Off peak season for South America 2 though post March 22.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 06, 2015, 05:09:22 PM
Consensus seems to be that you'll be charged post deval prices for the upgrade.
Any way to somehow get on an upgrade list and pay the miles pre deval?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 06, 2015, 05:17:29 PM
Any way to somehow get on an upgrade list and pay the miles pre deval?

Not that I know of.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 06, 2015, 05:27:56 PM
How about if I find (pre-deval) a route with F availability for post deval. Say JAL or something. Then post deval when the CX F opens, pay the $75 to reroute (keeping the O&D the same). That work? Is it worth maybe ending up on JAL F over CX J for an extra 12.5pp?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 12:25:34 AM
How about if I find (pre-deval) a route with F availability for post deval. Say JAL or something. Then post deval when the CX F opens, pay the $75 to reroute (keeping the O&D the same). That work?

The million dollar question....

Quote
Is it worth maybe ending up on JAL F over CX J for an extra 12.5pp?
Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Feivish on December 07, 2015, 09:32:13 AM
Is it possible to get TLV-AMM-AUH-JFK as one award?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ual902 on December 07, 2015, 10:06:10 AM
Is it possible to get TLV-AMM-AUH-JFK as one award?

Ive read on FT awhile ago that it is a yes

Read here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1629110-any-issues-auh-amm-tlv-ticket.html
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 11:14:08 AM
Is it possible to get TLV-AMM-AUH-JFK as one award?

Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Feivish on December 07, 2015, 11:42:38 AM
Ive read on FT awhile ago that it is a yes

Read here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1629110-any-issues-auh-amm-tlv-ticket.html
Thanks
Yes
How about luggage check through, any idea if possible?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 11:46:42 AM
How about luggage check through, any idea if possible?

Yes, possible.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Feivish on December 07, 2015, 12:25:41 PM
AA getting 0 availability for EY even though Etihad guest award is available. I recently read online American was having some sort of issues. Is there anyway to get around this?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 07, 2015, 12:35:00 PM
AA getting 0 availability for EY even though Etihad guest award is available. I recently read online American was having some sort of issues. Is there anyway to get around this?

Call AU Desk.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 02:06:34 PM
AA getting 0 availability for EY even though Etihad guest award is available. I recently read online American was having some sort of issues. Is there anyway to get around this?

on the a380?? when?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 02:19:26 PM
The million dollar question....
I would love to get some F use out of my AA miles before the devaluation. I cannot take off till a week after March 22(d-day) for sure.
I could really use some strategic help here.
And for the BIG Q...
How can I guarantee F for post-deval with pre-deval prices? Theres gotta be a way. DDF geniuses??
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 02:22:31 PM
I would love to get some F use out of my AA miles before the devaluation. I cannot take off till a week after March 22(d-day) for sure.
I could really use some strategic help here.
And for the BIG Q...
How can I guarantee F for post-deval with pre-deval prices? Theres gotta be a way. DDF geniuses??

Plenty of time between now and d-day to find award space and book for pre d-day prices.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 02:24:26 PM
Plenty of time between now and d-day to find award space and book for pre d-day prices.
Even for flying in April?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 07, 2015, 02:25:36 PM
Even for flying in April?

Im flying in July.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 02:27:42 PM
Im flying in July.
And... you booked or are somehow hoping July space will open before 03/22? Cause it doesnt look like that happens. It seems like a yr out or 0-10 days is the window.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2015, 02:39:21 PM
Since AA lets you make routing/date changes and upgrade from J to F for free on award bookings, would the following be possible?

Book CPT-DOH-PHL-LAX now as one award in J for 75k, upgrade to CPT-DOH-AUH-JFK/LHR-LAX in F as 2 awards?

What about the reverse: Book CPT-DOH-AUH-LAX as 2 awards now, then switch it to CPT-DOH-PHL-LAX as one award in J later?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 07, 2015, 02:41:42 PM
Since AA lets you make routing/date changes and upgrade from J to F for free on award bookings, would the following be possible?

Book CPT-DOH-PHL-LAX now as one award in J for 75k, upgrade to CPT-DOH-AUH-JFK/LHR-LAX in F as 2 awards?
What about the reverse: Book CPT-DOH-AUH-LAX as 2 awards now, then switch it to CPT-DOH-PHL-LAX as one award in J later?

As long as space is open on EY I would think so.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 07, 2015, 02:42:01 PM
And... you booked or are somehow hoping July space will open before 03/22? Cause it doesnt look like that happens. It seems like a yr out or 0-10 days is the window.

Already booked.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2015, 02:42:42 PM
As long as space is open on EY I would think so.
What about the reverse? Will they refund miles if I book all on QR and it counts as one award?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 07, 2015, 02:45:04 PM
What about the reverse? Will they refund miles if I book all on QR and it counts as one award?

I believe you will incur a fee for "downgrading" from F to J.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 02:47:23 PM
I believe you will incur a fee for "downgrading" from F to J.
you mean redeposit?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 02:48:11 PM
Already booked.
Well schkoach but that isn't too helpful for my question then. Enjoy though!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 07, 2015, 02:49:43 PM
Well schkoach but that isn't too helpful for my question then. Enjoy though!

A) I am still hoping for seats to open up.
B) You wanted to know if there is a chance to score seats pre deval for later out and I am an example that you can.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2015, 02:53:45 PM
I believe you will incur a fee for "downgrading" from F to J.
I wouldn't be downgrading from F to J, just switching from a 2-award J to a 1-award J.

you mean redeposit?
+1?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 07, 2015, 02:55:13 PM
I wouldn't be downgrading from F to J, just switching from a 2-award J to a 1-award J.
+1?

I did mean redeposit. I thought you meant going from F to J.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 02:56:31 PM
A) I am still hoping for seats to open up.
on the same flight same class?
B) You wanted to know if there is a chance to score seats pre deval for later out and I am an example that you can.
I understand that it is possible. Its not hard to get for dates a yr or 0-10 days out. I'm asking re specific dates, dates that are more than 10days from 3/22 but only by a week or two (April time)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 07, 2015, 02:57:54 PM


Looking for another F seat to open up on my route.

It depends on the airline in particular. Different airlines have different patterns of releasing space. Also depends on Y,J or F.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2015, 03:13:37 PM
I did mean redeposit. I thought you meant going from F to J.
So you have no idea about a 2-award trip to a 1-award trip in the same class?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Looking for another F seat to open up on my route.
Understood. I was referring to the q I asked earlier...
How about if I find (pre-deval) a route with F availability for post deval. Say JAL or something. Then post deval when the CX F opens, pay the $75 to reroute (keeping the O&D the same).

Anyway, I know you say there is plenty of time but I'd like to book one way now and OW after 12/31. I want good use of the 10% yrly refund.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 03:31:32 PM
Since AA lets you make routing/date changes and upgrade from J to F for free on award bookings, would the following be possible?

Book CPT-DOH-PHL-LAX now as one award in J for 75k, upgrade to CPT-DOH-AUH-JFK/LHR-LAX in F as 2 awards?

What about the reverse: Book CPT-DOH-AUH-LAX as 2 awards now, then switch it to CPT-DOH-PHL-LAX as one award in J later?

Going from 1 award to 2 awards or v.v. will result in a $150 fee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 03:36:39 PM
why would 1 to 2 be subject to a fee? Isnt it just adding a new ticket? even from J to F is a regular upgrade subject to $75 within 21 days. Thats all, no?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 03:42:18 PM
why would 1 to 2 be subject to a fee? Isnt it just adding a new ticket? even from J to F is a regular upgrade subject to $75 within 21 days. Thats all, no?

Not in @yehoshua's scenario.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 03:49:31 PM
Not in @yehoshua's scenario.
Is that because hes changing the routing (even though hes keeping the O/D)?
Im looking to book J or Y on CNX-HKG-LAX-JFK and then upgrading to J or F on CX or changing the route to CNX-HKG-NRT-LAX-JFK for J or F on JL. That requires $150?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 07, 2015, 04:17:21 PM
Is that because hes changing the routing (even though hes keeping the O/D)?

Changing from an all-ow award itin(QR/AA) to an itin that includes a non-ow carrier (EY) will always trigger the $150 change fee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2015, 04:20:25 PM
Going from 1 award to 2 awards or v.v. will result in a $150 fee.
2 phone reps I spoke to said there won't be a fee as long as you keep the class of service the same or upgrade. Did you try that personally?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 04:29:14 PM
2 phone reps I spoke to said there won't be a fee as long as you keep the class of service the same or upgrade. Did you try that personally?

Even with this?...

Changing from an all-ow award itin(QR/AA) to an itin that includes a non-ow carrier (EY) will always trigger the $150 change fee.

...rule #5648
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2015, 04:49:36 PM
Even with this?...

...rule #5648
So what you're  saying is it's not the 2-award to 1-award that triggers it, it's the fact that EY isn't part of OW. Interesting.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 04:55:45 PM
That's what Benjie says
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 05:28:08 PM
Changing from an all-ow award itin(QR/AA) to an itin that includes a non-ow carrier (EY) will always trigger the $150 change fee.

-1
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 05:28:58 PM
Is that because hes changing the routing (even though hes keeping the O/D)?

It's because he's changing from 1 award to 2 awards which involves a redeposit of miles.

Quote
Im looking to book J or Y on CNX-HKG-LAX-JFK and then upgrading to J or F on CX or changing the route to CNX-HKG-NRT-LAX-JFK for J or F on JL. That requires $150?

No fee. Those are both 1 award and you are not changing the o/d.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 05:30:03 PM
2 phone reps I spoke to said there won't be a fee as long as you keep the class of service the same or upgrade. Did you try that personally?

Yes, changing from 1 award to 2 awards in your case involves a redeposit of miles and will incur a $150 fee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2015, 05:36:46 PM
Yes, changing from 1 award to 2 awards in your case involves a redeposit of miles and will incur a $150 fee.
So both reps are dumb?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 05:38:47 PM
So both reps are dumb?

More likely they didn't understand what you were saying, and it makes absolutely no difference what the rep thinks the rule should be, the only thing that matters is how the computer prices it out, an AA rep will almost never override the computer.
How about give it a try - book and change and we'll see who's right :)?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 07, 2015, 05:48:26 PM

-1

Source?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 05:52:42 PM
Source?

Personal experience. And yours?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 05:55:58 PM
Source?
before his sources, whered you get that non-one world carrier triggers a charge?

It's because he's changing from 1 award to 2 awards which involves a redeposit of miles.
why would he change the whole award that way? why cant he ticket the new award separately and up/downgrade or change the orriginal ticket on its own? what would be the sense in redepositing just to rebook?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 06:02:17 PM
why would he change the whole award that way? why cant he ticket the new award separately and up/downgrade or change the orriginal ticket on its own? what would be the sense in redepositing just to rebook?

Oy! I think we should call bowtie in to put some arrows and squares into this presentation.

1) CPT-DOH-PHL-LAX = 1 award in J for 75k miles.
2) CPT-DOH-AUH = 1 award in J for 45k miles
3) AUH-JFK/LHR-LAX = 1 award in J for 67.5k and F for 90k miles.

To change from routing #1 to routing #2+3 will require a redeposit of 30k miles.
Redeposit of miles = $150 fee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Feivish on December 07, 2015, 06:09:02 PM
Oy! I think we should call bowtie in to put some arrows and squares into this presentation.

1) CPT-DOH-PHL-LAX = 1 award in J for 75k miles.
2) CPT-DOH-AUH = 1 award in J for 45k miles
3) AUH-JFK/LHR-LAX = 1 award in J for 67.5k and F for 90k miles.

To change from routing #1 to routing #2+3 will require a redeposit of 30k miles.
Redeposit of miles = $150 fee.
I admire your patience.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 06:11:57 PM
Oy! I think we should call bowtie in to put some arrows and squares into this presentation.

1) CPT-DOH-PHL-LAX = 1 award in J for 75k miles.
2) CPT-DOH-AUH = 1 award in J for 45k miles
3) AUH-JFK/LHR-LAX = 1 award in J for 67.5k and F for 90k miles.

To change from routing #1 to routing #2+3 will require a redeposit of 30k miles.
Redeposit of miles = $150 fee.

oh  :o
didnt get that. thought he wanted another award for another person. ::)
didnt realize that the auh was messing up the 3rd region exception.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 06:12:29 PM
I admire your patience.
I appreciate his patience.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 06:12:58 PM
oh  :o
didnt get that. thought he wanted another award for another person. ::)
didnt realize that the auh was messing up the 3rd region exception.

But now it's all clear?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 07, 2015, 06:13:53 PM
But now it's all clear?
it is. thank you very much.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 06:15:24 PM
it is. thank you very much.

Great! :)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: danzz72 on December 07, 2015, 06:31:16 PM
How much would 54,000 AA miles be worth to sell ? clean account.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mawmaw on December 07, 2015, 06:34:57 PM
How much would 54,000 AA miles be worth to sell ? clean account.
1.5 shekel :-X
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on December 07, 2015, 10:40:04 PM
When I book HNL-LAX-JFK (J anytime award) how long can I layover in LAX
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 08, 2015, 12:46:37 AM
When I book HNL-LAX-JFK (J anytime award) how long can I layover in LAX
J/Anytime has no relevance. Regular AA rules.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on December 08, 2015, 01:35:55 AM
J/Anytime has no relevance. Regular AA rules.

Which are? can you point me to it
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 08, 2015, 02:47:57 AM
Which are? can you point me to it

Officially <24hrs
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8240.msg1340064#msg1340064
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 08, 2015, 07:11:23 AM
Asia 2 - North America must fly over the Pacific? Even to the East coast?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 08, 2015, 07:21:11 AM
Asia 2 - North America must fly over the Pacific? Even to the East coast?

Yes

....Or over the North Poll.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5829/22979061244_2125a28377_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/B1zGk7)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 08, 2015, 07:34:28 AM
 :D
..reminds me of a q I always had. I know its a bit bit off topic but lets just say Im asking about AAs MPM specifically.
MPM is calculated the way gcmap maps it (i.e. exactly how many miles from one ap to the next even if the most direct is over or under the polls)?
Or is it based on average/"common" routing between the APs?
If a ow carrier doesnt fly direct, is the stopover considered direct or its part of the mpm?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on December 08, 2015, 09:32:25 AM
Officially <24hrs
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8240.msg1340064#msg1340064

Even though this is domestic? I remember reading somewhere there's a 4 hour rule
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 08, 2015, 09:59:37 AM
Even though this is domestic? I remember reading somewhere there's a 4 hour rule
That's when the entire award is domestic.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on December 08, 2015, 10:44:31 AM
That's when the entire award is domestic.

So HNL isn't considers domestic?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 08, 2015, 11:00:14 AM
So HNL isn't considers domestic?
It is  :-X
Apologies for wasting your time. Wasn't paying attention.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: KidOOO on December 08, 2015, 12:22:47 PM
It is  :-X
Apologies for wasting your time. Wasn't paying attention.

No worries. So to confirm I can only layover for 4 hour max no matter what on this itin?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 08, 2015, 07:19:31 PM
Very cool:

NEW 3RD zone connection allowed on AAdv awards! Europe -> S. Pacific may now connect in middle east if using Qantas. [Qatar still allowed too.]
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 08, 2015, 07:52:09 PM
Very cool:

NEW 3RD zone connection allowed on AAdv awards! Europe -> S. Pacific may now connect in middle east if using Qantas. [Qatar still allowed too.]
Cool, though I don't see myself ever taking AAdvantage of it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 09, 2015, 12:34:46 AM
Very cool:

NEW 3RD zone connection allowed on AAdv awards! Europe -> S. Pacific may now connect in middle east if using Qantas. [Qatar still allowed too.]

Still waiting for them to allow EY.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 09, 2015, 07:29:14 AM

Still waiting for them to allow EY.

Yep yep. That'd be nice indeed!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 09, 2015, 05:12:44 PM
I have a better chance finding F2 on JL or on CX?

What are the gateways from Asia1/2 - USA other than NRT and HKG?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on December 09, 2015, 10:39:08 PM
CX.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 10, 2015, 01:04:12 AM
Is it a thing that sAAver F and J JFK-LAX is wide open on Fri, Sat, Sun all Summer yet not a single seat M-Th? Are they doing that in hopes that business travelers will pay?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: thaber on December 10, 2015, 12:05:50 PM
Is it a thing that sAAver F and J JFK-LAX is wide open on Fri, Sat, Sun all Summer yet not a single seat M-Th? Are they doing that in hopes that business travelers will pay?
That's my guess.  Business travelers do pay,  and lately those seats haven't been opening up even last minute,  so maybe it works for them.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 10, 2015, 12:06:32 PM
That's my guess.  Business travelers do pay,  and lately those seats haven't been opening up even last minute,  so maybe it works for them.
I know. Quite disappointing.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: zow on December 10, 2015, 02:28:40 PM
Hi, is anyone else having difficulty making award booking on AA site?
I have tried on two computers, one PC and one Mac, and each time I get to the seat selection page, I get a splash screen that freezes me.
See attached.
Thanks.

ETA: glitch seems to be resolved.  ;D
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mochjas on December 10, 2015, 02:47:56 PM
How do I hold an AA flight if I do not have enough miles yet?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 10, 2015, 03:02:30 PM
How do I hold an AA flight if I do not have enough miles yet?

No miles needed to hold an AA flight.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 10, 2015, 03:04:06 PM
How do I hold an AA flight if I do not have enough miles yet?
Just be logged in.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mochjas on December 10, 2015, 04:12:32 PM
I eventually want to book it with avios so If I remove the hold will it be able to be booked by BA right away?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 10, 2015, 04:12:49 PM
I eventually want to book it with avios so If I remove the hold will it be able to be booked by BA right away?

YMMV.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 10, 2015, 04:13:04 PM
I eventually want to book it with avios so If I remove the hold will it be able to be booked by BA right away?
Not sure it automatically goes back.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 10, 2015, 04:41:23 PM
Not sure it automatically goes back.
Sometimes it does. Luck of the draw. Has worked for me every time I've done it (knock on wood), but hasn't worked for others.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on December 10, 2015, 06:57:39 PM
IME it has always worked when the flight was over a month out. Within a week MMHV (My Mileage Has Varied)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 10, 2015, 11:50:20 PM
IME it has always worked when the flight was over a month out.
Are you sure that wasn't just because there was more availability on the flight?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on December 11, 2015, 01:38:24 PM
Are you sure that wasn't just because there was more availability on the flight?
Im only referring to times where there were no other seats available. If there were, the discussion is moot my friend.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Jeremiah on December 13, 2015, 11:47:11 AM
Does AA ever release the blackout dates for economy sAAver around holiday time (dec 20 and on) as it gets closer to the flight
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 13, 2015, 02:39:02 PM
Does AA ever release the blackout dates for economy sAAver around holiday time (dec 20 and on) as it gets closer to the flight

AA has blackout dates?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Aerial Dag on December 13, 2015, 10:04:42 PM
I'm looking to fly LGA-YUL on 12/31 using Avios. Do you guys think I have a high chance of getting availability a few days before the flight?

Also, any way to book a paid refundable ticket until there is availability? I wish Southwest flew out there....
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sedge on December 13, 2015, 10:38:42 PM
Even though the T&Cs state that AA GCs may not be used in conjunction with award flight booking, is there a way to use them to pay for the tax and fees on award flights?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on December 14, 2015, 07:32:12 AM
Even though the T&Cs state that AA GCs may not be used in conjunction with award flight booking, is there a way to use them to pay for the tax and fees on award flights?
Not IME
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 11:25:15 AM
Im only referring to times where there were no other seats available. If there were, the discussion is moot my friend.
Someone once posted that it depends which class of service it is that it will go back, paging timt....
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on December 14, 2015, 11:32:58 AM
Someone once posted that it depends which class of service it is that it will go back, paging timt....
How does that make sense? You're always booked into the AAward class (T, U or Z)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 02:15:08 PM
How does that make sense? You're always booked into the AAward class (T, U or Z)
Right, maybe one of those, Im not sure
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on December 14, 2015, 02:16:01 PM
Right, maybe one of those, Im not sure
T= Coach sAAver
U= Biz sAAver
Z= First sAAver

I cant imagine why any of those would be more apt to go back than any other.

It makes more sense that based on the overall booking class picture at the time (seats available and whatever algorithm normally goes into these things) affects the chances of the sAAver going back into inventory.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: deusconsilio on December 14, 2015, 02:31:49 PM
Need some advice please on which option you more experienced travelers would recommend:

Option A: MLE - HKG Business on Cathay, then pay out of pocket for economy shuttle from HKG - CNX?

Option B: MLE - SIN Business on Singapore, then SIN - CNX Business on Tiger Air? Please note will pay out of pocket purchase of ~35K KrisFlyer
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 14, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Need some advice please on which option you more experienced travelers would recommend:

Option A: MLE - HKG Business on Cathay, then pay out of pocket for economy shuttle from HKG - CNX?

Option B: MLE - SIN Business on Singapore, then SIN - CNX Business on Tiger Air? Please note will pay out of pocket purchase of ~35K KrisFlyer

A) Better to post here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46609.885)
B) For Option A) You can add HKG-CNX as one award as long as its within 24hours.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 02:56:52 PM
Does CX F availability to HKG actually exist? Im looking for 2 seats in F, is it a waste of time?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 14, 2015, 03:00:08 PM
Does CX F availability to HKG actually exist? Im looking for 2 seats in F, is it a waste of time?

In one shot its a waste of time. If you are persistent it is not.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:00:41 PM
In one shot its a waste of time. If you are persistent it is not.
and the best airport from the US to find availability?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 14, 2015, 03:02:47 PM
and the best airport from the US to find availability?

I have found from ORD and JFK.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:03:12 PM
I have found from ORD and JFK.
nice! how far out?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 14, 2015, 03:03:42 PM
Does CX F availability to HKG actually exist? Im looking for 2 seats in F, is it a waste of time?

Sure, look less than 24 hours in advance.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 14, 2015, 03:04:23 PM
nice! how far out?
Close-in is really the way to go.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:04:34 PM
Sure, look less than 24 hours in advance.
;D ;D

Looks like a visa is needed, can that be done right away, or has to be done in advance?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 14, 2015, 03:05:03 PM
;D ;D

Looks like a visa is needed, can that be done right away, or has to be done in advance?

Why you need a Visa for HKG?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:05:03 PM
Close-in is really the way to go.
you mean within 24 hours?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 14, 2015, 03:05:14 PM
;D ;D

Looks like a visa is needed, can that be done right away, or has to be done in advance?
For HKG?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:05:29 PM
For HKG?
Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 14, 2015, 03:05:52 PM
Yes
Don't need anything in advance.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 14, 2015, 03:06:03 PM
Yes

American Citizen?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:06:29 PM
Don't need anything in advance.
that makes things easier, thanks guys!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:07:18 PM
American Citizen?
Yes.

I now see that the rules are:

Hong Kong Visa Requirements. U.S. Citizens visiting Hong Kong for not more than three months/90 days are not required to obtain visas. They must have a U.S. passport valid for at least six months and evidence of adequate funds for their stay and onward transportation
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:08:39 PM
Way back will probably be tough though, I would be looking to stay for about a week. Anybody here has gone without a return flight? :P
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 14, 2015, 03:09:49 PM
Way back will probably be tough though, I would be looking to stay for about a week. Anybody here has gone without a return flight? :P

What will you do in HKG for a week????
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 14, 2015, 03:10:13 PM
Can find far out but hard to then find 2 pax.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 14, 2015, 03:10:18 PM
Way back will probably be tough though, I would be looking to stay for about a week. Anybody here has gone without a return flight? :P
I did last January. Booked my home home in HKG.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:10:22 PM
What will you do in HKG for a week????
Touring mostly, why?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:10:36 PM
I did last January. Booked my home home in HKG.
how many pax?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 14, 2015, 03:10:38 PM
Touring mostly, why?

Too long is the consensus.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 14, 2015, 03:10:51 PM
Touring mostly, why?

Will probably be bored after 3 days.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:12:26 PM
Will probably be bored after 3 days.
Too long is the consensus.
So what would be the best way to make a trip involving hkg, from there head somewhere else?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 14, 2015, 03:13:44 PM
So what would be the best way to make a trip involving hkg, from there head somewhere else?

Yep.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 14, 2015, 03:14:31 PM
So what would be the best way to make a trip involving hkg, from there head somewhere else?
Go to Thailand.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:14:41 PM
Yep.
any ideas as to where?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 14, 2015, 03:14:50 PM
any ideas as to where?

China and Thailand are 2 good options.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
Go to Thailand.
by flying who? and then back with whom?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 14, 2015, 03:15:58 PM
by flying who? and then back with whom?
CX does that route.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:16:19 PM
China and Thailand are 2 good options.
thanks, china definitely seems to need a visa ;D

any of those possible to return to NYC direct on CX?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:17:23 PM
CX does that route.
sweet! and you would recommend that over china?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 14, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
by flying who? and then back with whom?

CX/KA/PG/TG
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 03:19:06 PM
CX/KA/PG/TG
perfect, thank you d93, MP, Benjie!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 14, 2015, 03:22:31 PM
perfect, thank you d93, MP, Benjie!

What is going on over here. Seems to be the time of year that makes everyone wanna go to Thailand!  ;D
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 14, 2015, 03:43:16 PM
sweet! and you would recommend that over china?
I haven't done China (yet), but really enjoyed Thailand.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on December 14, 2015, 03:48:21 PM
Need some advice please on which option you more experienced travelers would recommend:

Option A: MLE - HKG Business on Cathay, then pay out of pocket for economy shuttle from HKG - CNX?

Option B: MLE - SIN Business on Singapore, then SIN - CNX Business on Tiger Air? Please note will pay out of pocket purchase of ~35K KrisFlyer

Do option A, and then redeem 7500 Avios per person for HKG-CNX.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 14, 2015, 04:57:34 PM
So from my itinerary, BKK-HKG-CNX is messing me up. I see J availability with CX/KA on BAs site but I can't get the USA or AU representatives to see anything (even Y)!!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 14, 2015, 04:59:10 PM
So from my itinerary, BKK-HKG-CNX is messing me up. I see J availability with CX/KA on BAs site but I can't get the USA or AU representatives to see anything (even Y)!!

What date?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 14, 2015, 05:00:38 PM
What date?
April 04 or 05
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 14, 2015, 06:08:34 PM

April 04 or 05

2016? Huca.
Title: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 14, 2015, 06:19:09 PM
BKK-DOH-JFK on QR is a valid route using AA miles ?
The space shows up on BA, but when I tried putting it on hold with AA, the rep. said its not a valid routing.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 14, 2015, 06:21:05 PM
2016? Huca.
Guess so. Would love to get as many redemptions pre 2016 to maximize the 10% return (on all my accounts  8))
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 14, 2015, 06:22:58 PM
BKK-DOH-JFK on QR is a valid route using AA miles ?
The space shows up on BA, but when I tried putting it on hold with AA, the rep. said its not a valid routing.
Valid routing for 2 awards
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 14, 2015, 06:24:31 PM

Valid routing for 2 awards
What would that cost me of the BKK-DOH is in F and the DOH-JFK in J ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 14, 2015, 06:26:10 PM
What would that cost me of the BKK-DOH is in F and the DOH-JFK in J ?
45+67.5
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 14, 2015, 06:33:15 PM
What would that cost me of the BKK-DOH is in F and the DOH-JFK in J ?

I'm thinking the same. It may very well be worth the extra 45 to get the A380 F and A350 J.
However:

A) I have never made a complete global circle as I keep going back and forth from TLV-JFK so I'm gonna finally give the Pacific a shot. (thats just my own crazy thing).
B) There's no guarantee that you'll get to shower on a 3 hr flight.
C) That route isn't really being devalued by much.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MosheD on December 14, 2015, 06:47:43 PM
Prob answered a whole bunch of times but can't find.
Best way(s) to take advantage of F US-AKL for 72.5k?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Aaaron on December 14, 2015, 06:48:31 PM
I'm thinking the same. It may very well be worth the extra 45 to get the A380 F and A350 J.
However:

A) I have never made a complete global circle as I keep going back and forth from TLV-JFK so I'm gonna finally give the Pacific a shot. (thats just my own crazy thing).
B) There's no guarantee that you'll get to shower on a 3 hr flight.
C) That route isn't really being devalued by much.

What will BKK-DOH be post-deval in F?

ETA:  50k.  Yeah, not bad.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on December 14, 2015, 07:22:40 PM
I'm thinking the same. It may very well be worth the extra 45 to get the A380 F and A350 J.
However:

A) I have never made a complete global circle as I keep going back and forth from TLV-JFK so I'm gonna finally give the Pacific a shot. (thats just my own crazy thing).
B) There's no guarantee that you'll get to shower on a 3 hr flight.
C) That route isn't really being devalued by much.
No shower on QR F A380.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 14, 2015, 07:37:44 PM
No shower on QR F A380.
BKK-(BOM-AUH)-DOH-JFK
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 07:45:26 PM
Guess so. Would love to get as many redemptions pre 2016 to maximize the 10% return (on all my accounts  8))
is there a limit to the 10%?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 14, 2015, 07:47:22 PM
is there a limit to the 10%?
100k=10k per cal yr
Which must be raised after d-day to hold water.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 14, 2015, 07:47:54 PM
is there a limit to the 10%?

10k per year.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 07:51:53 PM
10k per year.
I just booked a 145k res and

AVIATOR 2015 AWARD REDEMPTION BONUS   10/01/15   0   7,250   7,250
AVIATOR 2015 AWARD REDEMPTION BONUS   10/01/15   0   2,750   2,750


So I can book again on 1/1 and get the 10%?


also interesting as I thought the bonus was from ym AA biz card, seems like its from the aviator card?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 14, 2015, 07:54:36 PM
I just booked a 145k res and

AVIATOR 2015 AWARD REDEMPTION BONUS   10/01/15   0   7,250   7,250
AVIATOR 2015 AWARD REDEMPTION BONUS   10/01/15   0   2,750   2,750


So I can book again on 1/1 and get the 10%?


also interesting as I thought the bonus was from ym AA biz card, seems like its from the aviator card?

Yes. And the Citi Plat card.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 08:23:39 PM
Yes. And the Citi Plat card.
so the aa biz card also gives it? or just the aviator?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 14, 2015, 08:36:57 PM
so the aa biz card also gives it? or just the aviator?

Aviator/Citi AA Plat
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2015, 08:37:41 PM
Aviator/Citi AA Plat
thanks, so maybe worth that AF after all...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 14, 2015, 10:41:56 PM
100k=10k per cal yr
Based on the date of travel or when you make the res?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on December 14, 2015, 10:46:03 PM
Latter.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 14, 2015, 11:04:04 PM
Latter.
Hmm, book now and don't get the 10% (already used up), or wait a couple of weeks and risk the availability disappearing...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Feivish on December 15, 2015, 10:15:19 AM
Anyway to reserve seats online for RJ flight that's on a itinerary with EY flight?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 15, 2015, 10:33:52 AM
Anyway to reserve seats online for RJ flight that's on a itinerary with EY flight?

Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 15, 2015, 10:36:26 AM
Anyone know when flight schedules are loaded and bookable on day 331 for AA?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Feivish on December 15, 2015, 01:07:13 PM
Yes
Please explain... Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 15, 2015, 01:11:24 PM
Please explain... Thanks

RJ's website using RJ's PNR.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Feivish on December 15, 2015, 01:13:14 PM
RJ's website using RJ's PNR.
One last Q, how do I get that?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 15, 2015, 01:14:17 PM
One last Q, how do I get that?

PUTPAC AA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Feivish on December 15, 2015, 01:19:15 PM
PUTPAC AA
Got it thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sedge on December 15, 2015, 09:11:56 PM
Anyone having trouble accessing AA homepage.

I keep getting


Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "http://www.aa.com/homePage.do?" on this server.

Reference #18.69461160.1450231713.5162fb8

Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: thaber on December 16, 2015, 02:31:11 AM
Anyone having trouble accessing AA homepage.

I keep getting


Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "http://www.aa.com/homePage.do?" on this server.

Reference #18.69461160.1450231713.5162fb8
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sedge on December 16, 2015, 02:34:06 AM
Anyone having trouble accessing AA homepage.

I keep getting


Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "http://www.aa.com/homePage.do?" on this server.

Reference #18.69461160.1450231713.5162fb8

Actually it's my local FIOS accidentally blacklisted AA.com, Nieman Marcus, Saks and a few others. Verizon is,working to correct it.



Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 17, 2015, 04:42:36 PM
Anyone know the following:

If flight is booked and ticketed now as EXP for the summer and EXP expires in Feb and post-(EXP) expiration ticket needs to be cancelled/re-deposited, will that incur the $150 fee or (being that when it was booked the person was EXP) not?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on December 17, 2015, 08:15:27 PM
Anyone know the following:

If flight is booked and ticketed now as EXP for the summer and EXP expires in Feb and post-(EXP) expiration ticket needs to be cancelled/re-deposited, will that incur the $150 fee or (being that when it was booked the person was EXP) not?
All goes by what you are at the time IINM.

Same goes for ticket booked before status, you can cancel without fee if you have status at the time of cancellation.

If you're a good talker, may be able to cancel without fee even after expiration.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on December 17, 2015, 08:40:44 PM
Should I rather use AA miles, Avios or cash for tickets to Boca
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on December 17, 2015, 09:20:01 PM
Should I rather use AA miles, Avios or cash for tickets to Boca
Pretty cheap tickets available now to South Florida. If you can make it work, cash would be the best option.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 20, 2015, 01:53:51 PM
I have JFK-HKG-CNX booked with AA. Can I change it to JFK-HKG-USM stopover for a couple of days, and then go USM-CNX, without a fee ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 20, 2015, 01:56:37 PM
I have JFK-HKG-CNX booked with AA. Can I change it to JFK-HKG-USM stopover for a couple of days, and then go USM-CNX, without a fee ?

1) Don't think BA/AA flies HKG-USM or USM-CNX
2) Anything >24hours will be ticketed as 2nd award
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 20, 2015, 01:56:45 PM
I have JFK-HKG-CNX booked with AA. Can I change it to JFK-HKG-USM stopover for a couple of days, and then go USM-CNX, without a fee ?

No
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 20, 2015, 02:13:08 PM

1) Don't think BA/AA flies HKG-USM or USM-CNX
2) Anything >24hours will be ticketed as 2nd award
1) Your right. I mixed up Dragonair and Bangkok airways.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mochjas on December 20, 2015, 04:39:08 PM
looking for an aa flight that has no saver ability. if an earlier flight has availability would i be able to book the earlier one and then change to the flight i need?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 20, 2015, 04:52:51 PM
looking for an aa flight that has no saver ability. if an earlier flight has availability would i be able to book the earlier one and then change to the flight i need?

No
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 20, 2015, 06:30:17 PM
Why are there some flights that have no Saaver availability but when you select Anytime Awards and choose your seat, the entire plane is empty? Aren't there supposed to be no blackout dates with AA?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 20, 2015, 06:33:03 PM
Why are there some flights that have no Saaver availability but when you select Anytime Awards and choose your seat, the entire plane is empty? Aren't there supposed to be no blackout dates with AA?

There are no blackout dates for award travel, but some awards are subject to capacity controls. Meaning that while there might not be official black out dates, there are (blackout dates).
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 20, 2015, 06:34:45 PM
There are no blackout dates for award travel, but some awards are subject to capacity controls. Meaning that while there might not be official black out dates, there are (blackout dates).
Ah. Got it. Do they sometimes open closer to flight or not really?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 20, 2015, 06:36:40 PM
Ah. Got it. Do they sometimes open closer to flight or not really?

With AA you got to check consistently. Check daily, even hourly sometimes. Stuff changes all the time.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 20, 2015, 06:40:05 PM
With AA you got to check consistently. Check daily, even hourly sometimes. Stuff changes all the time.
Ok, thanks!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ual902 on December 20, 2015, 06:47:17 PM
Off Peak awards 20K JFK GIG in May 2016, will these off peak awards US> South America (GIG) after March 2016 also go up?.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 20, 2015, 06:50:37 PM
Off Peak awards 20K JFK GIG in May 2016, will these off peak awards US> South America (GIG) after March 2016 also go up?.

Might not offer off peak prices for SA2 after March 22nd. The new chart is updated and seems to have all off peak regions filled out; SA2 is missing.

https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/redeemMiles/american-airlines-award-chart2016.jsp
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on December 20, 2015, 08:29:30 PM
I need your help quickly, please. We finally decided on going to Scottsdale for mid winter. I checked for AA milesaver flights. They have inconvenient ones for 12.5 each way per person or 50,000 total. To pay for the convenient flight it's either 512.40 for both tickets (I'm gold so free piece of luggage) or 80,000 total miles. PLEASE tell me what you folks think. Which should I choose? Don't want to lose the flight (Hopper says it's only going to go up). TIA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 20, 2015, 08:33:25 PM
BKK-AUH-JFK is one award or two awards ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Aaaron on December 20, 2015, 08:34:46 PM
I need your help quickly, please. We finally decided on going to Scottsdale for mid winter. I checked for AA milesaver flights. They have inconvenient ones for 12.5 each way per person or 50,000 total. To pay for the convenient flight it's either 512.40 for both tickets (I'm gold so free piece of luggage) or 80,000 total miles. PLEASE tell me what you folks think. Which should I choose? Don't want to lose the flight (Hopper says it's only going to go up). TIA

Pay cash.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Aaaron on December 20, 2015, 08:35:21 PM
BKK-AUH-JFK is one award or two awards ?

2.  Can do it on EK via AS as 1 though if that helps at all.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mochjas on December 20, 2015, 08:45:10 PM
I need your help quickly, please. We finally decided on going to Scottsdale for mid winter. I checked for AA milesaver flights. They have inconvenient ones for 12.5 each way per person or 50,000 total. To pay for the convenient flight it's either 512.40 for both tickets (I'm gold so free piece of luggage) or 80,000 total miles. PLEASE tell me what you folks think. Which should I choose? Don't want to lose the flight (Hopper says it's only going to go up). TIA
depends how you value AA miles but you are getting a really bad value .006 cents and do you plan on traveling again using the AA miles for st else. you can get 2 round trips to Hawaiii w that probably worth close to 1500 dollars so again its up to you
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 20, 2015, 08:50:34 PM

2.  Can do it on EK via AS as 1 though if that helps at all.
How much would the 2 awards cost in F, or J ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 20, 2015, 08:57:21 PM
How much would the 2 awards cost in F, or J ?

45+90 F
30+67.5 J
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on December 20, 2015, 09:30:16 PM
Thanks. Went with paying cash. Also get mileage on the advantage credit card for it besdies the trip.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on December 20, 2015, 09:36:02 PM
I know this is the AA forum but would you take trip insurance? Another 40+ dollars? Does that usually mean if for any reason I want to cancel? Or should I go to a different forum for this?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 20, 2015, 09:42:32 PM
I know this is the AA forum but would you take trip insurance? Another 40+ dollars? Does that usually mean if for any reason I want to cancel? Or should I go to a different forum for this?
post in this thread -  http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=248.msg1303539
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mutty on December 20, 2015, 10:13:44 PM
post in this thread -  http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=248.msg1303539
thx
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: elya on December 21, 2015, 06:41:19 AM
NYC-HKG-SYD One award or 2?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 21, 2015, 07:03:25 AM
NYC-HKG-SYD One award or 2?

2
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: elya on December 21, 2015, 07:04:55 AM
2
How much for HKG-SYD in F?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 21, 2015, 07:06:26 AM
How much for HKG-SYD in F?
45 now 50 later
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mmm740 on December 21, 2015, 08:13:18 AM
NYC-HKG-SYD One award or 2?
With AS you can book it as one award.
How much for HKG-SYD in F?
No F on that route.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: elya on December 21, 2015, 08:17:51 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 21, 2015, 01:41:32 PM
As long as the O&D are the same routing can be changed an unlimited amount of times?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 21, 2015, 01:43:57 PM
As long as the O&D are the same routing can be changed an unlimited amount of times?

Correct
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 21, 2015, 01:49:03 PM
Thanx. Just in case...
The redeposit fee is $150 + $25 per additional person. What is considered an additional person? Booked from same account? On same itinerary? Redeposited at same time?
Q is... If I book one ticket in J and other in F (waiting for additional F), if if if I must cancel am I subject to $150+$150 or is that $150+$25?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 21, 2015, 01:53:36 PM
Thanx. Just in case...
The redeposit fee is $150 + $25 per additional person. What is considered an additional person? Booked from same account? On same itinerary? Redeposited at same time?
Q is... If I book one ticket in J and other in F (waiting for additional F), if if if I must cancel am I subject to $150+$150 or is that $150+$25?

Account booked out of.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 21, 2015, 06:20:19 PM
Is it crazy to ask AA to open up a second J award seat on a flight that 1) already has one available and 2) has no other seats booked? (I mean the likelihood of them doing it, not just me asking and them saying no.)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MEIR613 on December 21, 2015, 06:59:20 PM
Is it crazy to ask AA to open up a second J award seat on a flight that 1) already has one available and 2) has no other seats booked? (I mean the likelihood of them doing it, not just me asking and them saying no.)
Probably get a better answer if you call them your self then asking here.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 21, 2015, 07:06:27 PM
Probably get a better answer if you call them your self then asking here.
Obviously, I just didn't know if anyone here ever had success doing something like that before.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on December 22, 2015, 12:33:03 AM
It's been done "to complete an award"  or "to complete a party." not easy tho.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 22, 2015, 12:34:21 AM
It's been done "to complete an award"  or "to complete a party." not easy tho.

And officially only Y not J/F (at least that's what an AA rep told me once).
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 22, 2015, 01:04:21 AM
It's been done "to complete an award"  or "to complete a party." not easy tho.

And officially only Y not J/F (at least that's what an AA rep told me once).
Thanks. I guess I can try.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 22, 2015, 03:03:49 AM
Thanks. I guess I can try.
Obviously report back
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 22, 2015, 07:23:07 AM
Its amazing how little the AA reps can see. Its crazy! After waiting 20min+ for a rep in AU and then getting disconnected I just stuck with the US num and HUCAed and HUCAed and HUCAed.
The 5th rep I got was semi competent. Instead of telling me basic rules or asking me the same q's over and over boasting ignorance, this rep tried working with me and searched as many routings as she was able to come up with. I ended up with some ridicules route but I'm fine with that knowing that I'll change it as time comes closer. I just wanted to book O&D and get the 10% refund per account. Either way, it worries me for when I'm gonna have to switch the routing, what can they see already??
They couldn't see the MH availability I was seeing on BA :( OK.
They couldn't see the KA availability I was seeing on BA ??? interesting.
They couldn't see the CX availability I was seeing on BA & QF :-\ annoying.
They couldn't see the JAL availability I was seeing on BA >:( Come on!
THEY COULDN'T SEE THE AA AVAILABILITY I WAS SEEING ON BA & AA :o :o :o :o SERIOUSLY???!!
After the whole back and forth, what I saw on AA I put on hold. The rep was then able to piece it together with the little she was able to see. Unbelievable.

I definitely earned these miles after spending 2+hrs dealing with them yesterday.
...and I though travel was free :P
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 22, 2015, 07:43:59 AM
I'm sure many of you have been there.
Pease excuse my rant, this is my first time.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 22, 2015, 09:33:24 AM
Obviously report back
Sure thing.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: E-MAN on December 22, 2015, 11:45:44 AM
Does the redeye LAX-JFK ever have saver availability? I've been searching for months and seems like I never see availability later than 12:30 PM.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 22, 2015, 11:46:54 AM
Does the redeye LAX-JFK ever have saver availability? I've been searching for months and seems like I never see availability later than 12:30 PM.
Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: E-MAN on December 22, 2015, 11:53:31 AM
Yes
I'm looking specifically for a Thursday night direct flight anytime between last week in May and end of September and see nothing
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on December 22, 2015, 12:02:08 PM
If it opens, it does so close-in.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: E-MAN on December 22, 2015, 12:03:38 PM
If it opens, it does so close-in.
Thanks, would like to book more in advance, but I guess not going to happen.
Seems Friday and Saturday nights have plenty of availability.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 22, 2015, 12:09:50 PM
Thanks, would like to book more in advance, but I guess not going to happen.
Seems Friday and Saturday nights have plenty of availability.
Sun and Mon also have lots of availability in July.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: E-MAN on December 22, 2015, 01:17:45 PM
Sun and Mon also have lots of availability in July.
Thanks. Ideally would like to leave NY Sunday morning and return on the Thursday night redeye to be home for Shabbos.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 22, 2015, 01:18:15 PM
Thanks. Ideally would like to leave NY Sunday morning and return on the Thursday night redeye to be home for Shabbos.
When?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: E-MAN on December 22, 2015, 01:20:08 PM
When?
Any week between last week in May and end of September.
Looking for biz saver.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SamSmith on December 22, 2015, 04:29:36 PM
Does CX F availability to HKG actually exist? Im looking for 2 seats in F, is it a waste of time?
I looked this morning, here is what I found-
JFK: 1 avail 12/25, 2 12/29
LAX: 1 avail 12/24, a 12/25
ORD: 1 avail 12/29, 2 12/30, 1 12/31
BOS: 1 avail 12/30
There were none available from those 4 cities for all of Jan when I checked. I realize your question is 8 days old, but thought it'd be good to show you actual availability.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MosheD on December 22, 2015, 04:43:29 PM
I looked this morning, here is what I found-
JFK: 1 avail 12/25, 2 12/29
LAX: 1 avail 12/24, a 12/25
ORD: 1 avail 12/29, 2 12/30, 1 12/31
BOS: 1 avail 12/30
There were none available from those 4 cities for all of Jan when I checked. I realize your question is 8 days old, but thought it'd be good to show you actual availability.

Wow Id really like to hold this route for post deval...Is this going to be impossible?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 22, 2015, 04:50:30 PM
Wow Id really like to hold this route for post deval...Is this going to be impossible?

CX F generally only opens up very close in.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MosheD on December 22, 2015, 04:51:20 PM
CX F generally only opens up very close in.

Ideas? 330 out it doesn't open?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mmm740 on December 22, 2015, 04:53:59 PM


Ideas? 330 out it doesn't open?
Find F with JL and change it when CX opens.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: MosheD on December 22, 2015, 04:55:30 PM
Find F with JL and change it when CX opens.
Officially that is new chart
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 22, 2015, 04:56:19 PM

Ideas?

Wait until 24 hours before departure to book.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 22, 2015, 04:56:36 PM
Officially that is new chart

Why? It's same O/D.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 22, 2015, 04:58:53 PM
Find F with JL and change it when CX opens.
Is CX F supposed to be better than JL F? I though JL F is supposed to be quite nice?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 22, 2015, 05:11:47 PM
Is CX F supposed to be better than JL F? I though JL F is supposed to be quite nice?

But people dont say CX F is "quite" nice.  ;)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 22, 2015, 05:14:53 PM
But people dont say CX F is "quite" nice.  ;)
Well I'm in that exact situation: I have JL  F  booked but have been looking for CX F direct. Problem is I really want to see Tokyo too.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 22, 2015, 05:16:12 PM
Well I'm in that exact situation: I have JL  F  booked but have been looking for CX F direct. Problem is I really want to see Tokyo too.

You'll see Tokyo at some point in life and when you do , I hope you plan going around Cherry Blossom season.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 22, 2015, 05:17:54 PM
You'll see Tokyo at some point in life and when you do , I hope you plan going around Cherry Blossom season.

When's that?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 22, 2015, 05:20:32 PM
When's that?

Around late March to mid April.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 22, 2015, 05:22:07 PM
Around late March to mid April.

Thanks.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 22, 2015, 05:26:53 PM
You'll see Tokyo at some point in life and when you do , I hope you plan going around Cherry Blossom season.
True. I guess it'll only be relevant if the flight become available.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SamSmith on December 22, 2015, 07:07:38 PM
Wow Id really like to hold this route for post deval...Is this going to be impossible?
I didn't check further than end of Jan (was doing it all by hand) so you may find something further out. I'm no expert, just wanted to illustrate the odds of finding two F closer in.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hatastah on December 23, 2015, 01:06:39 AM
Using AAdvantage miles for a 62.5K ticket to LHR on BA metal - how much is the YQ? What would it be if it's AA metal?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 23, 2015, 01:57:38 AM
Using AAdvantage miles for a 62.5K ticket to LHR on BA metal - how much is the YQ? What would it be if it's AA metal?

No YQ on AA metal.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hatastah on December 23, 2015, 02:11:45 AM

No YQ on AA metal.
Thanks. What about BA?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 23, 2015, 02:14:11 AM
Thanks. What about BA?

~$440
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: coralsnake on December 23, 2015, 09:11:20 AM
Using AAdvantage miles for a 62.5K ticket to LHR on BA metal - how much is the YQ? What would it be if it's AA metal?
You can always find out the YQ by clicking the flight and logging in.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hatastah on December 23, 2015, 09:12:22 AM

You can always find out the YQ by clicking the flight and logging in.
Thanks, my bad
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 23, 2015, 11:47:34 AM
What does AA charge for changing an award res on a partner airline (CX)? Would be keeping same origin and destination and class, just changing dates. Is the charge per reservation or per person?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 11:51:57 AM
What does AA charge for changing an award res on a partner airline (CX)? Would be keeping same origin and destination and class, just changing dates. Is the charge per reservation or per person?
No change fee. Doesn't matter if it's AA metal or partner.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 23, 2015, 12:19:52 PM
What does AA charge for changing an award res on a partner airline (CX)? Would be keeping same origin and destination and class, just changing dates. Is the charge per reservation or per person?

Free
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 23, 2015, 12:24:49 PM
Free
No change fee. Doesn't matter if it's AA metal or partner.
Sweet. Thanks!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 04:14:28 PM
An award from South Africa to the US using AA can only be considered 1 award if both legs were on QR. Since the flights I'm looking at are not both on QR, it'll price as two awards.

CPT-DOH-AUH-JFK-LAX

If it book the first award CPT-DOH-AUH, can the DOH-AUH be on EY, or would I need to book CPT-DOH as one award and DOH-AUH-JFK-LAX as the other?

If I book DOH-AUH-JFK-LAX  as one award, and then later on I want to change the routing based on availability and change the flight from DOH-AUH from EY to QR, would AA allow that (DOH-AUH on QR, AUH-LAX EY)?

Basically, can you make an award booking which has both QR and EY on the same ticket?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 23, 2015, 04:16:29 PM
An award from South Africa to the US using AA can only be considered 1 award if both legs were on QR. Since the flights I'm looking at are not both on QR, it'll price as two awards.

CPT-DOH-AUH-JFK-LAX

If it book the first award CPT-DOH-AUH, can the DOH-AUH be on EY, or would I need to book CPT-DOH as one award and DOH-AUH-JFK-LAX as the other?

If I book DOH-AUH-JFK-LAX  as one award, and then later on I want to change the routing based on availability and change the flight from DOH-AUH from EY to QR, would AA allow that (DOH-AUH on QR, AUH-LAX EY)?

Basically, can you make an award booking which has both QR and EY on the same ticket?

Yes (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/05/26/mixing-airlines/)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 04:18:43 PM
Yes (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/05/26/mixing-airlines/)
Thanks, so how would you divide it and why?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 23, 2015, 04:23:02 PM
Thanks, so how would you divide it and why?

I don't see why it makes any difference to be honest. The only difference seems to be whether DOH-AUH is on QR or on EY so why does it matter?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 04:28:57 PM
I don't see why it makes any difference to be honest. The only difference seems to be whether DOH-AUH is on QR or on EY so why does it matter?
Well maybe having the DOH-AUH flight on the same PNR would make getting any checked bags transferred easier/quicker?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 23, 2015, 04:30:43 PM
Well maybe having the DOH-AUH flight on the same PNR would make getting any checked bags transferred easier/quicker?

If that is the case, then I'd obv do it on EY as the rest is on EY.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 04:33:33 PM
If that is the case, then I'd obv do it on EY as the rest is on EY.
Yet then if I switch it to QR, it would have been better to have it part of the first half.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 23, 2015, 04:36:45 PM
Yet then if I switch it to QR, it would have been better to have it part of the first half.

Why better? Bc of lounge access? Not sure how significant that really is. It's not like you aren't getting into a decent lounge otherwise.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 04:52:08 PM
Why better? Bc of lounge access? Not sure how significant that really is. It's not like you aren't getting into a decent lounge otherwise.
Are you kidding? If I go on QR "F" I have access to the  Al Safwa lounge in DOH, vs if I'm on EY J I only have access to the Onyx lounge in DOH.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 23, 2015, 04:54:30 PM
Are you kidding? If I go on QR "F" I have access to the  Al Safwa lounge in DOH, vs if I'm on EY J I only have access to the Onyx lounge in DOH.

Must have missed some part somewhere about this construction. How much time in each place? What are the hours? You have a kid with you so if its the middle of the night that aint too much fun.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 23, 2015, 04:59:52 PM
An award from South Africa to the US using AA can only be considered 1 award if both legs were on QR. Since the flights I'm looking at are not both on QR, it'll price as two awards.

CPT-DOH-AUH-JFK-LAX

If it book the first award CPT-DOH-AUH, can the DOH-AUH be on EY, or would I need to book CPT-DOH as one award and DOH-AUH-JFK-LAX as the other?

No difference

Quote
If I book DOH-AUH-JFK-LAX  as one award, and then later on I want to change the routing based on availability and change the flight from DOH-AUH from EY to QR, would AA allow that (DOH-AUH on QR, AUH-LAX EY)?

Yes

Quote

Basically, can you make an award booking which has both QR and EY on the same ticket?

Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 23, 2015, 05:00:53 PM
Well maybe having the DOH-AUH flight on the same PNR would make getting any checked bags transferred easier/quicker?

No matter how you many awards it is, you can have it all on 1 PNR and you can have your bags checked all the way through.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 05:06:37 PM
Must have missed some part somewhere about this construction. How much time in each place? What are the hours? You have a kid with you so if its the middle of the night that aint too much fun.
Well based on the current flights, 4.25 hours in DOH from 23:50-04:05 and 4 hours in AUH from 06:20-10:20. Yes, we'll have a kid, so it sounds like a really not fun night. Would you take such flights with a kid?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 05:06:46 PM
No difference

Yes

Yes
Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 05:07:38 PM
No matter how you many awards it is, you can have it all on 1 PNR and you can have your bags checked all the way through.
Well they might, except I don't have enough miles in 1 account to book everything, so I'd need to book the SA to ME awards on one account and the ME-NA award on another account.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 23, 2015, 05:08:34 PM
Well based on the current flights, 4.25 hours in DOH from 23:50-04:05 and 4 hours in AUH from 06:20-10:20. Yes, we'll have a kid, so it sounds like a really not fun night. Would you take such flights with a kid?

Can't make the connections longer and tour DOH and/or AUH a bit?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 23, 2015, 05:09:03 PM
Well they might, except I don't have enough miles in 1 account to book everything, so I'd need to book the SA to ME awards on one account and the ME-NA award on another account.

That's a totally different story.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 05:10:14 PM
Can't make the connections longer and tour DOH and/or AUH a bit?
Not as of now. If I do I'd have to take a connection flight from LGA-LAX which sounds equally as unappealing as spending the night in DOH and AUH, but taking AA F nonstop from JFK (and not LGA) to LAX.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 05:10:43 PM
That's a totally different story.
But it's good to know that you can book 2 awards on the same PNR.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 23, 2015, 05:11:31 PM
But it's good to know that you can book 2 awards on the same PNR.

You can book 10 awards on 1 PNR.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 05:12:27 PM
You can book 10 awards on 1 PNR.
Doesn't seem to be any benefit to doing so though.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 23, 2015, 05:12:51 PM
Doesn't seem to be any benefit to doing so though.

-1
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 05:14:23 PM
-1
So what are the benefits to having everything on 1 PNR? Just if there's schedule changes that affect the trips?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 23, 2015, 05:15:09 PM
So what are the benefits to having everything on 1 PNR? Just if there's schedule changes that affect the trips?

1) 1 ticket in case of any delays, cancelations, ect.
2) Only 1 cancelation fee.

Just to name a couple.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 05:19:38 PM
1) 1 ticket in case of any delays, cancelations, ect.
2) Only 1 cancelation fee.

Just to name a couple.
Too bad you can't pay for 2 awards on a single PNR from 2 different AA accounts, or can you?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 23, 2015, 05:20:11 PM

Well based on the current flights, 4.25 hours in DOH from 23:50-04:05 and 4 hours in AUH from 06:20-10:20. Yes, we'll have a kid, so it sounds like a really not fun night. Would you take such flights with a kid?

It's not about the flight but the hours with the stopovers are (most likely) just gonna be messy with the kid so don't expect to have so much fun in the lounges as you'll be busy with your kid. (I hope I am wrong)

Can't push it out to be closer to 24 hours and get a hotel for the night and a more sane day?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 23, 2015, 05:22:22 PM

Well based on the current flights, 4.25 hours in DOH from 23:50-04:05 and 4 hours in AUH from 06:20-10:20. Yes, we'll have a kid, so it sounds like a really not fun night. Would you take such flights with a kid?

It's not about the flight but the hours with the stopovers are (most likely) just gonna be messy with the kid so don't expect to have so much fun in the lounges as you'll be busy with your kid. (I hope I am wrong)

Can't push it out to be closer to 24 hours and get a hotel for the night and a more sane day?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 05:25:18 PM
It's not about the flight but the hours with the stopovers are (most likely) just gonna be messy with the kid so don't expect to have so much fun in the lounges as you'll be busy with your kid. (I hope I am wrong)

Can't push it out to be closer to 24 hours and get a hotel for the night and a more sane day?
I'd love to, but doing so would mean no flights from JFK-LAX, just LGA-XXX-LAX, which doesn't seem as fun, especially getting to LGA from JFK around 6:30pm. Of the two options, which do you think sounds better? Transiting Queens with a baby but spending more time in AUH (and spending the night in DOH in the Al Safwa loung's private nap rooms) or having an overnight connection in DOH and going straight to LAX in real F?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 23, 2015, 08:29:31 PM
I'd love to, but doing so would mean no flights from JFK-LAX, just LGA-XXX-LAX, which doesn't seem as fun, especially getting to LGA from JFK around 6:30pm. Of the two options, which do you think sounds better? Transiting Queens with a baby but spending more time in AUH (and spending the night in DOH in the Al Safwa loung's private nap rooms) or having an overnight connection in DOH and going straight to LAX in real F?

I dunno tbh. It sounds like you have set your mind to what you would prefer. I just think a) transiting Queens aint that bad. You'll basically be seating in a cab going from a) to b) and then sitting down in Centurion for a bit. Not that bad.
And also, how often are you AUH/DOH and can spend a whole day there and see a bit of the place?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 23, 2015, 10:34:36 PM
I dunno tbh. It sounds like you have set your mind to what you would prefer. I just think a) transiting Queens aint that bad. You'll basically be seating in a cab going from a) to b) and then sitting down in Centurion for a bit. Not that bad.
And also, how often are you AUH/DOH and can spend a whole day there and see a bit of the place?
I actually spoke to DW about it, giving her the options before stating my opinion. She'd prefer not transiting Queens unless EY F on A380 opens up. As of now I held Jetihad F. I'll post in that thread soon.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 24, 2015, 03:13:10 PM
If I put a CX flight on hold with AA,can I complete the booking online?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 24, 2015, 03:14:48 PM
If I put a CX flight on hold with AA,can I complete the booking online?

CMIIW but I think you have to call in to ticket it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 24, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
If I put a CX flight on hold with AA,can I complete the booking online?
I believe you need to call.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 24, 2015, 05:51:17 PM
If I put a CX flight on hold with AA,can I complete the booking online?

No
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: shoobi on December 24, 2015, 07:28:51 PM
I found this very interesting:

http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2015/12/24/42880/
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 24, 2015, 07:59:01 PM
I found this very interesting:

http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2015/12/24/42880/
That's AA for you.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: thaber on December 24, 2015, 11:02:32 PM
I found this very interesting:

http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2015/12/24/42880/
Same shtik that they're doing lax - jfk.  I can't believe every flight is going out full.  I did randomly get a saver F jfk lax for a Motzai Shabbos end of January.
That's AA for you.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 24, 2015, 11:22:16 PM
Same shtik that they're doing lax - jfk.  I can't believe every flight is going out full.  I did randomly get a saver F jfk lax for a Motzai Shabbos end of January.
I also found F and J seats on almost every flight, JFK-LAX for most F, S, S, M in July.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 25, 2015, 04:08:17 AM
Whats with AA agents not being able to see awards that are available on BA's site? I have no confidence when I search and search if I'm just gonna be told that they can't see availability, I'm wasting a ton of time.
Is there a pattern of what they can/can't see?
A better way to search availability?
A better call center (tried US, AU, HKG and SIN)?
Specific times to call?
Higher level employee I should be requesting?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 25, 2015, 04:50:39 AM
Whats with AA agents not being able to see awards that are available on BA's site? I have no confidence when I search and search if I'm just gonna be told that they can't see availability, I'm wasting a ton of time.
Is there a pattern of what they can/can't see?
A better way to search availability?
A better call center (tried US, AU, HKG and SIN)?
Specific times to call?
Higher level employee I should be requesting?

Are you giving the rep the exact flight number or just route?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 25, 2015, 05:20:33 AM
Exact number. The only way I was able to get her to see the AA metal that I was seeing was by putting it on hold and then she saw it in my account, not on her search. CX/JAL I cant hold cause I'm seeing it on BA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CholentTheTraveler on December 25, 2015, 12:07:15 PM
Was looking at flying LAX>MIA 18th of January 2016. Searched on aa before logging in and saw plenty Business Saver.. Logged in to book and all gone. Best to call them and book?
Title: AA Award Flights
Post by: Mech on December 26, 2015, 03:31:28 PM
I am looking into flying EY F in March from TLV. 2 adults and one infant but will buy the baby his own seat @ 90k. Since RJ Tlv-Amm only opens up 2 award seats, I will probably have to book him as an infant ticket for that flight. Will RJ still allow me to check in the 2 allowed bags for him since he is booked with a regular seat on the Amm-Auh-Jfk segments? TIA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 27, 2015, 04:39:38 PM
Can there be a change of airports on an award? Say HKG-HND then NRT-LAX?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 27, 2015, 04:50:18 PM
Can there be a change of airports on an award? Say HKG-HND then NRT-LAX?

Here (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/08/04/airline-award-ticket-change-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-2073637)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 27, 2015, 04:57:43 PM
Can there be a change of airports on an award? Say HKG-HND then NRT-LAX?
I booked an award like that.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mordechain on December 27, 2015, 05:00:18 PM
Anyone know how long before departure cx opens up j on yyz-hkg and back?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 27, 2015, 05:28:05 PM
Can there be a change of airports on an award? Say HKG-HND then NRT-LAX?

Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 27, 2015, 05:28:29 PM
Here (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/08/04/airline-award-ticket-change-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-2073637)

That comment doesn't answer his question.
OP's question was regarding booking an award, not changing an award.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 27, 2015, 05:29:17 PM
That comment doesn't answer his question.

It means it is YMMV. It can be done at the discretion of the rep you are dealing with but they could very well charge you as well.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 27, 2015, 05:30:28 PM
It means it is YMMV. It can be done at the discretion of the rep you are dealing with but they could very well charge you as well.
It showed up on ba.com for me and AA didn't  hesitate to book it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 27, 2015, 05:30:48 PM
It means it is YMMV. It can be done at the discretion of the rep you are dealing with but they could very well charge you as well.

Regarding changes - maybe, but OP's question was regarding booking an award, and the answer is - yes, you can change airports.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 27, 2015, 05:32:22 PM
Regarding changed -maybe

Yep. Thought OP was referring to this.

It showed up on ba.com for me and AA didn't  hesitate to book it.

but OP's question was regarding booking an award, and the answer is - yes, you can change airports.

Cool. Got it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 27, 2015, 06:20:07 PM
Here (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/08/04/airline-award-ticket-change-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-2073637)
Impressive b'kius! (unless "Ang" is you). But as D93 pointed out, its a different query. Thanx!
Yes
Thank You D39!
I booked an award like that.
What happened to your luggage? You had to schlepp it or they transferred it?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Tom Brady on December 27, 2015, 06:24:45 PM
What happened to your luggage? You had to schlepp it or they transferred it?
You have to schlep it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 27, 2015, 06:32:31 PM
You have to schlep it.
Never mind then. Not for me.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Tom Brady on December 27, 2015, 06:39:10 PM
Never mind then. Not for me.
Anyway you have to schlep yourself. Once you're already schlepping yourself, probably not such a big deal to bring your bags along too.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Aaaron on December 27, 2015, 07:14:02 PM
What's the deadline to cancel and get the miles redeposited?  If I book J and book F for 6 months later, and F becomes available for the first flight, can I effectively switch them?  Or can I change the date on the F and cancel the J?

I know it'll cost $150.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 27, 2015, 07:41:41 PM


What happened to your luggage? You had to schlepp it or they transferred it?

+1
You have to schlep it.
+1
Anyway you have to schlep yourself. Once you're already schlepping yourself, probably not such a big deal to bring your bags along too.
It's really not that hard to transfer between Haneda & Narita. They have shuttle buses that go between the two airports and are extremely efficient. You anyway you need to collect your bags because you are officially entering Japan and need to pass through customs. In terms of the trip that I booked with AA, it hasn't happened yet, but I don't plan on going straight to NRT. I plan on spending the night in Tokyo so I will obviously be collecting my bags (I don't believe I'll be checking anything though).
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 27, 2015, 09:52:57 PM
I have CPT-DOH-AUH-LAX on hold with AA on 1 PNR. I want to pay for CPT-DOH from one AA account and DOH-AUH-LAX from another AA account. Is this allowed or does it require 2 PNRs?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: ual902 on December 27, 2015, 09:58:08 PM
Just confirming off peak aa award rules. I can change an Itinerary of the routing with no  fee? example JFK>GIG can be changed to JFK>MIA>GIG, correct?.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Joe4007 on December 27, 2015, 10:02:13 PM
Just confirming off peak aa award rules. I can change an Itinerary of the routing with no  fee? example JFK>GIG can be changed to JFK>MIA>GIG, correct?.
Yes. Doesn't matter if peak/off peak.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 28, 2015, 12:58:51 AM
What's the deadline to cancel and get the miles redeposited?
To cancel - a couple minutes before take off
To redeposit - a year from date of original ticketing.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 28, 2015, 12:59:47 AM
I have CPT-DOH-AUH-LAX on hold with AA on 1 PNR. I want to pay for CPT-DOH from one AA account and DOH-AUH-LAX from another AA account. Is this allowed or does it require 2 PNRs?

2 PNR's
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2015, 01:13:05 AM
2 PNR's
So I've learned. Thanks.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 28, 2015, 02:39:02 AM
It's really not that hard to transfer between Haneda & Narita. They have shuttle buses that go between the two airports and are extremely efficient. You anyway you need to collect your bags because you are officially entering Japan and need to pass through customs. In terms of the trip that I booked with AA, it hasn't happened yet, but I don't plan on going straight to NRT. I plan on spending the night in Tokyo so I will obviously be collecting my bags (I don't believe I'll be checking anything though).
But I'd like to spend <24hrs there, not just go from ap to ap.
But this is an interesting and good piece of info, one must collect luggage in Japan even if they have a flight connecting as long as they are leaving the ap?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2015, 10:36:48 AM
But I'd like to spend <24hrs there, not just go from ap to ap.
But this is an interesting and good piece of info, one must collect luggage in Japan even if they have a flight connecting as long as they are leaving the ap?
Not quite. If you leave the airport to sight see but are otherwise just stopping over at the same airport, you don't need to collect your bags (they won't even put them out for you to collect). I will be in Japan for less than 24 hours too, but it'll be enough time for me to see things.

Last time we just went from NRT to HND. This time I'll be doing it in reverse but spending time in Tokyo as well.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 28, 2015, 10:53:10 AM
I will be in Japan for less than 24 hours too, but it'll be enough time for me to see things.
Last time we just went from NRT to HND. This time I'll be doing it in reverse but spending time in Tokyo as well.
Thanx. Appreciated!
One question, just to clarify and recap: You will be taking your luggage through customs because you...
...plan on spending the night in Tokyo so I will obviously be collecting my bags (I don't believe I'll be checking anything though).
or because...
...you need to collect your bags because you are officially entering Japan and need to pass through customs.
... because you're transitioning 2 separate ap's?

In short: If I am stopping for 12-daylight-hrs (or <24 but can carry what I need in my carry on), am arriving and departing from 2 separate ap's, then I still must schlepp luggage. Correct??
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2015, 11:11:04 AM
Thanx. Appreciated!
One question, just to clarify and recap: You will be taking your luggage through customs because you...or because...... because you're transitioning 2 separate ap's?

In short: If I am stopping for 12-daylight-hrs (or <24 but can carry what I need in my carry on), am arriving and departing from 2 separate ap's, then I still must schlepp luggage. Correct??
2 separate airports require collecting bags. Same airport does not. Length of sub-24 hour layover and what you do during it makes no difference.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 28, 2015, 12:56:57 PM
If booking an award seat through AA for an infant on CX flight, do I need to make her older than 2 (like for BA) or can I give her actual DOB?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 28, 2015, 02:50:27 PM
Over a 2 hour wait time to call in an award reservation.  ???
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2015, 02:51:08 PM
Over a 2 hour wait time to call in an award reservation.  ???
Why not just call another call center?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 28, 2015, 03:11:00 PM
Why not just call another call center?
Any suggestions of a good one to call?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 28, 2015, 03:11:46 PM
Any suggestions of a good one to call?
Australia.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2015, 03:12:06 PM
Australia.
+1, or HKG.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 28, 2015, 03:49:56 PM
Australia.
Worked perfect. (And they're much nicer than the people at the US call center.) Thanks!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2015, 03:53:17 PM
Worked perfect. (And they're much nicer than the people at the US call center.) Thanks!
No kidding. Sure worth the few cents to make the call.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: mochjas on December 28, 2015, 03:57:50 PM
No kidding. Sure worth the few cents to make the call.
where did you get the phone # from?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2015, 03:59:43 PM
where did you get the phone # from?
aa.com. They're not a secret.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 28, 2015, 03:59:53 PM
where did you get the phone # from?

+61-2-91011948
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Aaaron on December 28, 2015, 04:58:55 PM
To cancel - a couple minutes before take off
To redeposit - a year from date of original ticketing.

Perfect.  Thank you.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 28, 2015, 09:31:08 PM
Is YQ/taxes on HKG-JFK in J supposed to be ~$50pp ($77.60 Australian Dollars)? Was under the impression that it was less but that's what the rep told me when I put the res on hold today.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Aaaron on December 28, 2015, 09:47:12 PM
Is YQ/taxes on HKG-JFK in J supposed to be ~$50pp ($77.60 Australian Dollars)? Was under the impression that it was less but that's what the rep told me when I put the res on hold today.

I thought I was quoted ~$14.xx yesterday. 
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 28, 2015, 10:20:02 PM
I thought I was quoted ~$14.xx yesterday.
I asked if he was including over the phone booking fee and he said no... Still on hold so I'll ask again when I call to get it ticketed.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2015, 10:28:46 PM
Should I be able to ticket 2 pax separately (on the same PNR), each paying from his own aadvantage account?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 28, 2015, 10:40:34 PM
Should I be able to ticket 2 pax separately (on the same PNR), each paying from his own aadvantage account?
According to what the rep told me today, nope. If you need two separate accounts for points, then two PNRs.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2015, 10:42:44 PM
According to what the rep told me today, nope. If you need two separate accounts for points, then two PNRs.
That's what they told me as well, but I was hoping that wouldn't be the case. It'd be a lot easier to have it on the same PNR for cancellation purposes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 28, 2015, 10:54:11 PM
That's what they told me as well, but I was hoping that wouldn't be the case. It'd be a lot easier to have it on the same PNR for cancellation purposes.
Yup, and cheaper. But I've booked through AA several times and always the same answer so seems like that's the rule.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2015, 11:10:31 PM
Yup, and cheaper. But I've booked through AA several times and always the same answer so seems like that's the rule.
That's unfortunate.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 28, 2015, 11:42:26 PM
Is YQ/taxes on HKG-JFK in J supposed to be ~$50pp ($77.60 Australian Dollars)? Was under the impression that it was less but that's what the rep told me when I put the res on hold today.
It's always checkable on BA or calculable on ITA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 29, 2015, 12:09:11 AM

It's always checkable on BA or calculable on ITA
Guess the guy quoted me the right price.

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Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 29, 2015, 12:16:15 AM
Should I be able to ticket 2 pax separately (on the same PNR), each paying from his own aadvantage account?

No
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 12:17:20 AM
No
Oh well.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 29, 2015, 01:22:44 PM
How much is EY, HKG-AUH-JFK when the first leg is J, and the second is F ,
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 29, 2015, 01:30:44 PM
How much is EY, HKG-AUH-JFK when the first leg is J, and the second is F ,
30+90
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 29, 2015, 01:35:46 PM

30+90
Shoot, I'm short 3k miles. Waiting on 50k miles to post from Citi.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 29, 2015, 01:36:28 PM
Is this the AA Australian number, 02 9101 1948 ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 29, 2015, 01:36:46 PM
For AMM-AUH?
TLV-AMM-AUH in J
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 29, 2015, 01:37:55 PM
Shoot, I'm short 3k miles. Waiting on 50k miles to post from Citi.

You can hold it for 5 days and in the meantime transfer from SPG.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 29, 2015, 01:41:57 PM
You can hold it for 5 days and in the meantime transfer from SPG.
Shoot, I'm short 3k miles. Waiting on 50k miles to post from Citi.
Or just pay for the miles.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 01:46:55 PM
Is this the AA Australian number, 02 9101 1948 ?
Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 01:50:51 PM
You can hold it for 5 days and in the meantime transfer from SPG.
That's what I did. FWIW it took exactly 24 hours, Sun 8:50p to Mon 8:50p for the miles to post to AA.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 29, 2015, 02:32:25 PM
Hi everyone,

I'm trying to book AUH - JFK in EY F, using US number the agent can't find availability. Tried Australian number but wasn't able to dial the option needed using my phone and google voice. Any ideas? I'm waiting for US AA to call me back to try again.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 29, 2015, 02:33:03 PM
Trying to book AUH - JFK using US number and agent can't find availability. Tried Australian number but wasn't able to dial the option needed using my phone and google voice. Any ideas? I'm waiting for US AA to call me back to try again.

Keep trying AU number.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 29, 2015, 02:33:51 PM
Thanks! For some reason google voice won't let me dial the appropriate option
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 29, 2015, 02:34:12 PM
Hi everyone,

I'm trying to book AUH - JFK in EY F, using US number the agent can't find availability. Tried Australian number but wasn't able to dial the option needed using my phone and google voice. Any ideas? I'm waiting for US AA to call me back to try again.
Keep trying AU. US AA will not really see it (I have tried multiple times today).
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 29, 2015, 02:34:24 PM
Thanks! For some reason google voice won't let me dial the appropriate option
I have the same issue.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 29, 2015, 02:35:52 PM

Keep trying AU. US AA will not really see it (I have tried multiple times today).
What is up with that ? They don't know how to find it ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 29, 2015, 02:36:19 PM
What is up with that ? They don't know how to find it ?

The million dollar question
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 29, 2015, 02:37:46 PM
Thanks! For some reason google voice won't let me dial the appropriate option
I have the same issue.

It's annoying but if you wait till after the menu is repeated it will put you on hold for an agent.

"VoIP doesn't work well with some older equipment that still out there.
If you find that the RFC 2833, SIP INFO, or Inband DTMF tones are not being recognized:
Go to Settings > Advanced Settings > DTMF Type. Change the setting and then try your call again.
Inband DTMF can be sent alongside other forms. This is what the "Also Send Inband DTMF" check box is for."
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 02:42:39 PM

It's annoying but if you wait till after the menu is repeated it will put you on hold for an agent.
+1. GV never lets me push an option for the Australia number, but it does for the HKG number. After about 1 min of repeating the menu you just get transferred to someone.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 29, 2015, 02:51:36 PM
Thanks guys! On hold now. Any tips for an infant award on AUH - JFK? It's pricing at $8.5k ow which is what I'm getting (rt is 11k) so at 10% fare cost it's not worth a third ticket for an infant. Though borderline.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 02:53:53 PM
Thanks guys! On hold now. Any tips for an infant award on AUH - JFK? It's pricing at $8.5k ow which is what I'm getting (rt is 11k) so at 10% fare cost it's not worth a third ticket for an infant. Though borderline.
First off EY charges 20% for infants. AA only charges 10%, so book with AA. Second, you may just have to suck it up and pay. It'll be worth it. I'm in the same boat btw.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 29, 2015, 02:55:54 PM
First off EY charges 20% for infants. AA only charges 10%, so book with AA. Second, you may just have to suck it up and pay. It'll be worth it. I'm in the same boat btw.

Definitely booking with AA. 10% is doable at that rate. Best route to TLV is still JFK-AUH-AMM then avios AMM to TLV?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 29, 2015, 02:56:28 PM
Definitely booking with AA. 10% is doable at that rate. Best route to TLV is still JFK-AUH-AMM then avios AMM to TLV?
Pretty much only route.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 02:56:55 PM
Definitely booking with AA. 10% is doable at that rate. Best route to TLV is still JFK-AUH-AMM then avios AMM to TLV?
You can book AMM-TLV on the same ticket if it's available. No need for avios.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 29, 2015, 02:59:52 PM
You can book AMM-TLV on the same ticket if it's available. No need for avios.

So TLV-AMM-AUH on air jordan and AUH-JFK on EY can all be under the 90k AA ticket? I thought one of the routing rules is that the route has to be a published fare or something
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 03:01:56 PM
So TLV-AMM-AUH on air jordan and AUH-JFK on EY can all be under the 90k AA ticket? I thought one of the routing rules is that the route has to be a published fare or something
AMM-AUH can be on RJ or EY. Yes, that'll work, doesn't need to be published.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rediplus on December 29, 2015, 03:47:56 PM
you will most likely need to spend a day or alot of hours in AUH or AMM to catch the A380 flight at 3.20am. i can't get decent layovers tlv to auh to catch the 3.20 am flight.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on December 29, 2015, 03:51:03 PM
Yup, that's what I'm gonna have to do from MEL-AUH // AUH-JFK, but there's enough to do to occupy another day for us.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 03:54:07 PM
Same here. I'll have from 10:20a until 2:55a in AUH. Not the end of the world for our first time in AUH.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 29, 2015, 04:03:08 PM

Is this the AA Australian number, 02 9101 1948 ?
How do o dial this from the US ? I keep on getting an error message.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 29, 2015, 04:03:59 PM
How do o dial this from the US ? I keep on getting an error message.
61 2 ...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 29, 2015, 04:04:48 PM

61 2 ...
thank you. That worked.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 04:04:52 PM
How do o dial this from the US ? I keep on getting an error message.
Leave out the 0 +61291011948
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 29, 2015, 04:05:01 PM
between the absolutely terrible flight times, my lack of patience,non optimal routing with toddler, and my inability to book so far ahead, it seems like im gonna let this one pass
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 29, 2015, 04:05:45 PM
between the absolutely terrible flight times, my lack of patience,non optimal routing with toddler, and my inability to book so far ahead, it seems like im gonna let this one pass
Can be very tough.

I'm shocked I'm about to take my EY flights I booked in May.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rediplus on December 29, 2015, 04:06:05 PM
i want to bring my 10 and 8 year old with me. not sure they can make those hours. not sure i can either. is there a place to sleep in the EY lounge when booking J ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 04:06:39 PM
between the absolutely terrible flight times, my lack of patience,non optimal routing with toddler, and my inability to book so far ahead, it seems like im gonna let this one pass
I'm doing it with an infant, that's arguably a lot easier than a toddler.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 04:07:08 PM
i want to bring my 10 and 8 year old with me. not sure they can make those hours. not sure i can either. is there a place to sleep in the EY lounge when booking J ?
Or just stay up and sleep for 14 hours en route.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on December 29, 2015, 04:08:33 PM
between the absolutely terrible flight times, my lack of patience,non optimal routing with toddler, and my inability to book so far ahead, it seems like im gonna let this one pass

All wrong :P

Well, at least for me. I also have no idea when I'll take this trip, but I booked 11 months out = schedule changes = free change/cancellation. Booking far out allows me to book at current rates, but change date later to something after deval. All in all, makes sense for a speculative booking, even if it may cost me $175 long run.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rediplus on December 29, 2015, 04:09:09 PM
and miss all the fun on the plane ?  ;D
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 04:09:46 PM
All wrong :P

Well, at least for me. I also have no idea when I'll take this trip, but I booked 11 months out = schedule changes = free change/cancellation. Booking far out allows me to book at current rates, but change date later to something after deval. All in all, makes sense for a speculative booking, even if it may cost me $175 long run.
Another valid point to book now, Emkay.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 04:10:40 PM
and miss all the fun on the plane ?  ;D
How much are you going to let your kids drink at the bar already?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 29, 2015, 04:12:13 PM
Can I book dragon air, CNX-HKG - and then EY HKG-AUH on one award ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 29, 2015, 04:13:16 PM
Booked! TLV-AMM-AUH-JFK-LAX. Will I get the chauffeur in AUH? I'd really like to check out DXB
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 04:14:54 PM
Booked! TLV-AMM-AUH-JFK-LAX. Will I get the chauffeur in AUH? I'd really like to check out DXB
No chauffeur on AUH layovers. Sorry.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rediplus on December 29, 2015, 04:21:11 PM
how far is petra from AMM ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 29, 2015, 04:22:30 PM
No chauffeur on AUH layovers. Sorry.

Can I take the AUH - DXB bus?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 04:27:29 PM
Can I take the AUH - DXB bus?
Why not? They don't keep you hostage in AUH.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rediplus on December 29, 2015, 04:29:12 PM
Booked! TLV-AMM-AUH-JFK-LAX. Will I get the chauffeur in AUH? I'd really like to check out DXB

would you mind breaking out the booking in miles ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 29, 2015, 04:31:45 PM
All wrong :P

Well, at least for me. I also have no idea when I'll take this trip, but I booked 11 months out = schedule changes = free change/cancellation. Booking far out allows me to book at current rates, but change date later to something after deval. All in all, makes sense for a speculative booking, even if it may cost me $175 long run.
if i was doing it just me and my wife and had the ability to take off a week whenever i want then it would be a no brainer. Furthermore the only time i would take this route is enroute to America which narrows down the times i can take this. Even as a speculative booking i would still need to find availability for 3 seats when i want to switch, no easy feat.
TLV-SYD on the other hand will likely be booked pre-deval though...

Quote
11 months out = schedule changes = free change/cancellation.
isnt it free changes either way?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 29, 2015, 04:32:31 PM
I'm doing it with an infant, that's arguably a lot easier than a toddler.
infinitely easier
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on December 29, 2015, 04:32:40 PM
No chauffeur on AUH layovers. Sorry.

But there should be on stopovers.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 29, 2015, 04:35:08 PM
Another valid point to book now, Emkay.
the only reason i would book this is if i need to get from point A to point B and for that there are more realistic options.
checking out AUH and EY F will be done hopefully by booking to SYD
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 29, 2015, 04:36:29 PM
how far is petra from AMM ?
around 2 1/2 hr drive
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 29, 2015, 04:36:57 PM
would you mind breaking out the booking in miles ?
one award. 90k
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 04:39:09 PM
the only reason i would book this is if i need to get from point A to point B and for that there are more realistic options.
checking out AUH and EY F will be done hopefully by booking to SYD
Well in that case there's no need to do it now. It just seemed like the reasons you gave lead me to believe you weren't interested doing it until the times were better and your kid was older.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 29, 2015, 04:40:54 PM

Can I book dragon air, CNX-HKG - and then EY HKG-AUH on one award ?
BUMP
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 29, 2015, 04:43:18 PM
BUMP

I believe so.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 29, 2015, 04:47:02 PM
I believe so.
+1
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sams on December 29, 2015, 04:55:25 PM
Lax to Phl in j on aa best way to book is aa 25k?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 04:56:40 PM
Lax to Phl in j on aa best way to book is aa 25k?
Or BA. It's still 25k, but cancellation is cheaper.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: sams on December 29, 2015, 04:57:33 PM

Or BA. It's still 25k, but cancellation is cheaper.
thanx thought Ba would be 32k thanx
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 04:58:16 PM
thanx thought Ba would be 32k thanx
Oh right, stupid "F".
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 29, 2015, 04:58:18 PM
Well in that case there's no need to do it now. It just seemed like the reasons you gave lead me to believe you weren't interested doing it until the times were better and your kid was older.
Well technically if my kid was older and the flight times worked out better I would do it. If all the stars aligned...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 29, 2015, 04:59:57 PM
So I got them to book TLV-AMM-DXB layover AUH-JFK-LAX for 90k miles. Think I can get a chauffeur transfer?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rediplus on December 29, 2015, 05:29:59 PM
TLV-AMM-AUH-JFK is now 90k in F. how much after devaluation ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 29, 2015, 05:32:03 PM
TLV-AMM-AUH-JFK is now 90k in F. how much after devaluation ?

115k.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Matovu on December 29, 2015, 05:45:15 PM
So I got them to book TLV-AMM-DXB layover AUH-JFK-LAX for 90k miles. Think I can get a chauffeur transfer?
could this work for example
JFK-(LHR ?-) TLV - AMM - AUH- SYD too ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 29, 2015, 05:52:27 PM
could this work for example
JFK-(LHR ?-) TLV - AMM - AUH- SYD too ?

2 awards, 90k + 60k in F.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 05:57:42 PM
So I got them to book TLV-AMM-DXB layover AUH-JFK-LAX for 90k miles. Think I can get a chauffeur transfer?
Since AA doesn't allow layovers longer than 24 hours (unless there's no flight sooner in the case of flights that are not operated daily) I'd guess you're still transiting at AUH. EY may not view it that way though and may offer the chauffeur service.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 29, 2015, 06:25:42 PM
Since AA doesn't allow layovers longer than 24 hours (unless there's no flight sooner in the case of flights that are not operated daily) I'd guess you're still transiting at AUH. EY may not view it that way though and may offer the chauffeur service.
You're correct, I confused stop over with layover. Hopefully Etihad will give me the chauffeur.

On another note, AA quoted $2k for the infant because Etihad charges 20%. Didn't have the time or energy to explain it to him. Need to HUCA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 06:29:25 PM
You're correct, I confused stop over with layover. Hopefully Etihad will give me the chauffeur.

On another note, AA quoted $2k for the infant because Etihad charges 20%. Didn't have the time or energy to explain it to him. Need to HUCA
I was told with AA HUCA for an infant seat is essential since they basically pull the number out of hat.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 29, 2015, 06:37:58 PM
So I got them to book TLV-AMM-DXB layover AUH-JFK-LAX for 90k miles. Think I can get a chauffeur transfer?

Interesting. DXB and AUH are considered the same city. Never knew that.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Matovu on December 29, 2015, 06:37:58 PM
2 awards, 90k + 60k in F.

why is this different then Jewdkoff's award ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 06:39:19 PM
why is this different then Jewdkoff's award ?
He's just going from ME-NA. Europe is another story.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 29, 2015, 06:39:29 PM
why is this different then Jewdkoff's award ?

So I got them to book TLV-AMM-DXB layover AUH-JFK-LAX for 90k miles. Think I can get a chauffeur transfer?

One award. ME-NA

could this work for example
JFK-(LHR ?-) TLV - AMM - AUH- SYD too ?

2 awards. NA-ME. ME-SP
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 29, 2015, 06:43:04 PM
He's just going from ME-NA. Europe is another story.

Europe isn't the reason. The reason is because of Australia.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 29, 2015, 06:43:17 PM
Interesting. DXB and AUH are considered the same city. Never knew that.
Interesting indeed.
@Emkay that opens your options...
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 06:46:16 PM
Interesting. DXB and AUH are considered the same city. Never knew that.
Could be because EY doesn't fly to DXB and EK doesn't fly to AUH, so they consider it the same. Though it's gotta be the farthest 2 airports are from each other and still considered the same city.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 29, 2015, 06:56:12 PM
So I got them to book TLV-AMM-DXB layover AUH-JFK-LAX for 90k miles. Think I can get a chauffeur transfer?

Please report back if this gets ticketed at 90k.
Thank you.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 06:57:41 PM
Please report back if this gets ticketed at 90k.
Thank you.
AA seems to be taking their sweet old time ticketing today.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 29, 2015, 06:58:45 PM
AA seems to be taking their sweet old time ticketing today.

EY always take a while, nothing new. Just sit back and relax.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 07:00:31 PM
EY always take a while. Just sit back and relax.
I'm not worried, just chillin.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 29, 2015, 07:01:11 PM
I'm not worried, just chillin.

:)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 29, 2015, 07:20:10 PM
Weird thing just happened. When i called AA Australia, right when i mentioned I want to book EY, the agent asked me if I got an email from AA in regards to booking EY awards. I said no, bec. I did not get anything.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 07:21:46 PM
Weird thing just happened. When i called AA Australia, right when i mentioned I want to book EY, the agent asked me if I got an email from AA in regards to booking EY awards. I said no, bec. I did not get anything.
Nu, what did they say?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 29, 2015, 07:28:49 PM
Nu, what did they say?
I was posting after the fact. The agent did not want to tell me what the email said.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 29, 2015, 07:51:54 PM
Interesting. DXB and AUH are considered the same city. Never knew that.
I guess, not really sure how it happened. The agent implied it could work anywhere but I didn't want to push my luck. I want to add a XNB (?) to AUH (bus route from mall to AUH) leg on and see what happens
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 29, 2015, 07:54:00 PM
why is this different then Jewdkoff's award ?
Awards from Asia/Australia can only cross the Pacific unless you piece two tickets together
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 29, 2015, 08:23:29 PM
What's the furthest I can stretch the free change with AA? Will it be a free change if I keep the same route but reverse the origin and destination?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 08:24:46 PM
What's the furthest I can stretch the free change with AA? Will it be a free change if I keep the same route but reverse the origin and destination?
I don't believe so.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on December 29, 2015, 08:41:07 PM
Possible to select EY seats online for an AA booking on hold?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 29, 2015, 08:44:49 PM
Possible to select EY seats online for an AA booking on hold?
No. only after its ticketed
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 29, 2015, 08:56:22 PM
Please report back if this gets ticketed at 90k.
Thank you.

Sure. I'm holding it first though. Need to get the infant fare down before I can commit
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on December 29, 2015, 08:58:36 PM
No. only after its ticketed
Thx
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 09:16:15 PM
Thx
Though I was able to select seats over the phone with EY even though the ticket was on hold.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 29, 2015, 09:17:37 PM
No. only after its ticketed

If I have the EY locator already even though AA says "On request" should I be able to select seats online? When trying to do so on EY it doesn't seem to let me.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 09:19:49 PM
If I have the EY locator already even though AA says "On request" should I be able to select seats online? When trying to do so on EY it doesn't seem to let me.

Though I was able to select seats over the phone with EY even though the ticket was on hold.
No, online didn't work for me.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 30, 2015, 12:40:23 AM
Has anyone tried working directly with Etihad for the infant fare? They charge 10% of the miles for the adult ticket so it only seems fair that they should be able to charge you that instead of the 20%  paid fair.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 30, 2015, 12:41:29 AM
Has anyone tried working directly with Etihad for the infant fare? They charge 10% of the miles for the adult ticket so it only seems fair that they should be able to charge you that instead of the 20%  paid fair.
I think you may be confused: EY charges 20% of the fare for F/J, 10% for Y. AA charges 10% for all fare classes.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 30, 2015, 01:29:25 AM
Interesting indeed.
@Emkay that opens your options...
I don't think adding a 2 hr transit between airports is any better an option at this point then dropping the long haul and swimming the Atlantic
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 30, 2015, 01:57:34 AM
I don't think adding a 2 hr transit between airports is any better an option at this point then dropping the long haul and swimming the Atlantic
...except that the service won't be as good.
But I hear ya.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: a mirrer on December 30, 2015, 02:21:46 AM
just as an fyi the israeli number had no problem seeing and booking etihad
have one ticket on hold for my father jfk-auh now need to convince my father to fly to israel with 3-4 stops from lax-tlv
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 30, 2015, 02:32:25 AM
just as an fyi the israeli number had no problem seeing and booking etihad
have one ticket on hold for my father jfk-auh now need to convince my father to fly to israel with 3-4 stops from lax-tlv
How long was the wait?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 30, 2015, 02:34:26 AM
just as an fyi the israeli number had no problem seeing and booking etihad
have one ticket on hold for my father jfk-auh now need to convince my father to fly to israel with 3-4 stops from lax-tlv

Hours of operation?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: a mirrer on December 30, 2015, 02:38:00 AM
How long was the wait?
2 minutes
Hours of operation?
not sure but IINM 24/7
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 30, 2015, 09:38:39 AM
I think you may be confused: EY charges 20% of the fare for F/J, 10% for Y. AA charges 10% for all fare classes.
You're thinking of Emirates which charges 10% miles only for econ. Try searching for an adult + infant in F using Etihad guest and you'll see the price is just 10% more miles (120k vs 110k) without any insane cash charges
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 30, 2015, 10:56:21 AM
You're thinking of Emirates which charges 10% miles only for econ. Try searching for an adult + infant in F using Etihad guest and you'll see the price is just 10% more miles (120k vs 110k) without any insane cash charges
No, I believe I'm thinking about Etihad. See the picture and the infant's price.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 30, 2015, 11:20:39 AM
No. only after its ticketed
+1. My award just ticketed and now EY's online seat selection works.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 30, 2015, 11:29:00 AM
No, I believe I'm thinking about Etihad. See the picture and the infant's price.
That's a paid ticket. I'm talking about a mileage ticket.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 30, 2015, 11:43:30 AM
That's a paid ticket. I'm talking about a mileage ticket.
I got the same response when I called EY directly and asked how much it would cost to add an infant to my award ticket.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 30, 2015, 11:52:09 AM
I got the same response when I called EY directly and asked how much it would cost to add an infant to my award ticket.

I saw one report of someone paying 10% of the ticket in miles using AA. It was some random comment on a TPG post or something like that

Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 30, 2015, 11:56:01 AM
I saw one report of someone paying 10% of the ticket in miles using AA. It was some random comment on a TPG post or something like that
That'd be nice, but I wouldn't trust one TPG comment. AA should charge 10% of the cash fare though.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 30, 2015, 12:12:43 PM
That'd be nice, but I wouldn't trust one TPG comment. AA should charge 10% of the cash fare though.
Agreed, but if their policy is 10% miles on a mileage ticket I wonder if calling them directly may yield something positive.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 30, 2015, 12:18:36 PM
Agreed, but if their policy is 10% miles on a mileage ticket I wonder if calling them directly may yield something positive.
It's not. AA never charges 10% of the miles.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 30, 2015, 03:58:53 PM
I paid for 2 AA awards yesterday morning. 1 ticketed this morning, one is still on request. Is that normal? The miles were already deducted from the 2nd, as-of-yet-not-ticketed account.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 30, 2015, 05:23:03 PM
I paid for 2 AA awards yesterday morning. 1 ticketed this morning, one is still on request. Is that normal? The miles were already deducted from the 2nd, as-of-yet-not-ticketed account.

Yes, especially with EY.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 30, 2015, 05:27:06 PM
Yes, especially with EY.
Thanks. Still chillin.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 30, 2015, 05:28:17 PM
Thanks. Still chillin.

Glad to hear :)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: BarryLincoln on December 30, 2015, 06:32:56 PM
I have two EY award tickets on hold via AA's Australia desk - it has to be purchased by Jan 3.  Silly questions - Is that 11:59pm Jan 3 Eastern time or Australian time?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 30, 2015, 06:35:06 PM
I have two EY award tickets on hold via AA's Australia desk - it has to be purchased by Jan 3.  Silly questions - Is that 11:59pm Jan 3 Eastern time or Australian time?

Usually departure city, check your AA hold online and it will say the time zone for the hold expiation.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 30, 2015, 06:36:26 PM
I have two EY award tickets on hold via AA's Australia desk - it has to be purchased by Jan 3.  Silly questions - Is that 11:59pm Jan 3 Eastern time or Australian time?
Departure city time.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 30, 2015, 08:32:16 PM
Recall seeing a few pages back that AA let someone book award travel even though there weren't enough AA points in their account because they called up Citi to verify that points are on the way. Is that a YMMV or does every rep know about it?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 31, 2015, 01:21:06 AM
Recall seeing a few pages back that AA let someone book award travel even though there weren't enough AA points in their account because they called up Citi to verify that points are on the way. Is that a YMMV or does every rep know about it?
I highly doubt its that simple
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 31, 2015, 02:16:29 AM
I highly doubt its that simple
Now I can't find that post. If someone remembers who said it (or if the person who said it sees this), can you chime in? Have 3 seats in J for HKG-JFK CX on hold and need to book it by Shabbos and the points are taking forever to post. Really don't want to lose the seats.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 31, 2015, 07:23:01 AM
It was in the Citi AA thread. Here's the post: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=29745.msg789085;topicseen#msg789085
Title: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 31, 2015, 09:03:56 AM
Since BKK-AUH-JFK, has to be booked as two separate awards, does that mean that each leg will have its own cancellation fee etc. ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on December 31, 2015, 09:12:19 AM
Since BKK-AUH-JFK, has to be booked as two separate awards, does that mean that each leg will have its own cancellation fee etc. ?

Not if booked on same PNR.
Title: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 31, 2015, 09:32:41 AM
If I have the Barclay aviator card, and the Citi AA card, do I get 10% back twice ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 31, 2015, 09:33:52 AM
If I have the Barclay aviator card, and the Citi AA card, do I get 10% back twice ?

No
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Matovu on December 31, 2015, 09:37:29 AM
No
Do you get 10% only if you pay the respective taxes with one of those cards ? Or do you get 10% back by just having one of those cards ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 31, 2015, 09:40:09 AM
Has anyone had an infant ticketed for AUH JFK? What was the final cost? I'm still being quoted insane fees
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 31, 2015, 09:40:43 AM
Has anyone had an infant ticketed for AUH JFK? What was the final cost? I'm still being quoted insane fees
How much?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 31, 2015, 09:41:10 AM
How much?
20%, 2k
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 31, 2015, 09:42:14 AM
20%, 2k
That's through EY, no? What about AA?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: CS91 on December 31, 2015, 09:42:30 AM
Do you get 10% only if you pay the respective taxes with one of those cards ? Or do you get 10% back by just having one of those cards ?
Latter.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 31, 2015, 09:45:38 AM

Do you get 10% only if you pay the respective taxes with one of those cards ? Or do you get 10% back by just having one of those cards ?
IINM just having the card works
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 31, 2015, 09:47:36 AM

Not if booked on same PNR.
i can't combine 2 separate PNR's into one, correct ?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 31, 2015, 09:53:36 AM
i can't combine 2 separate PNR's into one, correct ?

Correct
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 31, 2015, 09:56:31 AM

Correct
Sucks, I can't get 10k twice, once in '15, and in '16, bec. then I'd have to book 2 separate PNR's, but don't want to risk extra cancellation fee.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Matovu on December 31, 2015, 10:01:12 AM
Latter.
Thanks
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 31, 2015, 10:47:07 AM
If I have the Barclay aviator card, and the Citi AA card, do I get 10% back twice ?
No

ETA: Unless each one is attached to a different AA account.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 31, 2015, 10:51:15 AM
That's through EY, no? What about AA?
That's AA. Just called and was told that it needs to be calculated by a different department and to call back in 24hours
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 31, 2015, 10:56:30 AM
ETA: Unless each one is attached to a different AA account.
Except he wants everything on one PNR for the risk of a redeposit fee


Sucks, I can't get 10k twice, once in '15, and in '16, bec. then I'd have to book 2 separate PNR's, but don't want to risk extra cancellation fee.

Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 31, 2015, 11:05:04 AM

Except he wants everything on one PNR for the risk of a redeposit fee
Yep. I'm not sure which way to go. The trip is for August, and obviously I don't plan on cancelling, but anything can happen.
In regard to the free date changes, is there a limit to how far, or how many times I can change it ,
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AJK on December 31, 2015, 12:26:04 PM
$150 > 10K.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 31, 2015, 12:43:54 PM

$150 > 10K.
I agree. One thing I don't get is that AA will charge you about $250 to buy 10k miles.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 31, 2015, 12:45:37 PM
$150 > 10K.
Maybe losing $150 = def losing 10k??
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 31, 2015, 12:47:06 PM
Maybe losing $150 = def losing 10k??

"Def losing"? Throughout 2016 you're not going to be making an AA booking? With the new charts, a 100k redemption should be pretty easy to make.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 31, 2015, 01:33:48 PM
"Def losing"? Throughout 2016 you're not going to be making an AA booking? With the new charts, a 100k redemption should be pretty easy to make.
True true. But I'm thinking along my lines where I split up between a few accounts to always maximize the 10%. What about you, rileywiles23, you plan on redeeming 100k in 2016?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 31, 2015, 02:12:12 PM

True true. But I'm thinking along my lines where I split up between a few accounts to always maximize the 10%. What about you, rileywiles23, you plan on redeeming 100k in 2016?
Unfortunately no.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 31, 2015, 02:33:59 PM
Unfortunately no.
Back to you D93...
Maybe losing $150 = def losing 10k??
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 31, 2015, 02:40:18 PM
Unfortunately no.
Back to you D93...
Maybe losing $150 = def losing 10k??

You plan your trips 12 months in advance?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 31, 2015, 02:48:00 PM

You plan your trips 12 months in advance?
Not all of them, but I kind of have a rough idea, on how much time I have throughout the year to be able to get away.
And now that I'm bezras Hashem going to CNX in the summer of '16, and another small trip, prob. CR, for the winter of '16, there isn't much more time for other travels.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 31, 2015, 02:51:33 PM
You plan your trips 12 months in advance?
Believe it or not some people like planning in advance
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 31, 2015, 02:53:43 PM
Believe it or not some people like planning in advance

While it is true that I also "enjoy" booking in advance at times, in the world of award flights its simply not possible most of the time .

(if traveling >1pax and wanting premium cabins)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 31, 2015, 02:56:28 PM
While it is true that I also "enjoy" booking in advance at times, in the world of award flights its simply not possible most of the time .

(if traveling >1pax and wanting premium cabins)
Exactly! Single guys have it easier in this regard.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 31, 2015, 02:57:19 PM
Exactly! Single guys have it easier in this regard.

Or girls ;)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 31, 2015, 03:03:48 PM
Believe it or not some people like planning in advance

Really, why?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 31, 2015, 03:06:01 PM
I booked my MLE trip in May. Never thought I would actually end up taking it, but here I am, just a few days away. Having booked pretty much the most efficient flights for this trip, I kind of got bored because I had nothing to play around with.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 31, 2015, 03:07:33 PM
I booked my MLE trip in May. Never thought I would actually end up taking it, but here I am, just a few days away. Having booked pretty much the most efficient flights for this trip, I kind of got bored because I had nothing to play around with.

Some of the best trips are when you depart without having a return flight yet! :)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 31, 2015, 03:08:31 PM
Some of the best trips are when you depart without having a return flight yet! :)
As mentioned, it is a lot easier for one passenger to do that. Though I went through that on my trip to Japan last year.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 31, 2015, 03:08:52 PM
As mentioned, it is a lot easier for one passenger to do that. Though I went through that on my trip to Japan last year.

I did it with 2.

And the most fun trip is booking a flight while driving to the airport.:)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 31, 2015, 03:09:15 PM
I booked my MLE trip in May. Never thought I would actually end up taking it, but here I am, just a few days away. Having booked pretty much the most efficient flights for this trip, I kind of got bored because I had nothing to play around with.
That's kind of how I felt having booked CPT-DOH-AUH-LAX. Now that I changed to CPT-DOH-AUH-JFK//LGA-CLT-LAX I can spend the next 6 months waiting, hoping and praying that AA releases space JFK-LAX non-stop, or that better routing opens up. Fun times!
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 31, 2015, 03:09:19 PM
I did it with 2.
It's doable, but not as easy.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 31, 2015, 03:09:50 PM
That's kind of how I felt having booked CPT-DOH-AUH-LAX. Now that I changed to CPT-DOH-AUH-JFK//LGA-CLT-LAX I can spend the next 6 months waiting, hoping and praying that AA releases space JFK-LAX non-stop, or that better routing opens up. Fun times!
Set some alerts and don't bother checking.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 31, 2015, 03:09:53 PM
I did it with 2.
It's possible with 2, but often harder. Even harder still if you need 3 seats, etc.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 31, 2015, 03:10:32 PM
Set some alerts and don't bother checking.
I set loads of alerts for non-stop flights. I'm also searching other routing with a stop though. Too many possibilities to set alerts for.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 31, 2015, 03:13:28 PM

I did it with 2.

And the most fun trip is booking a flight while driving to the airport.:)

Now we are talking! ;)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 31, 2015, 03:14:34 PM
Now we are talking! ;)

Not for the faint of heart.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 31, 2015, 03:18:30 PM
Not for the faint of heart.
I guess I have a faint heart in that regard.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 31, 2015, 03:23:46 PM
Not for the faint of heart.
...or for those with wives of faint hearts:)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 31, 2015, 03:24:53 PM
...or for those with wives of faint hearts:)

Excuses, excuses.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Yehoshua on December 31, 2015, 03:25:14 PM
Excuses, excuses.
Get a wife and then say it's an excuse.  ;)
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 31, 2015, 03:27:43 PM
My wife and kid didn't complain when I did it.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: benjie1305 on December 31, 2015, 03:34:12 PM

My wife and kid didn't complain when I did it.

My wife would never have an issue if we have the days available for travel. The issue is way more with babysitting. There is no way I am taking a 3 and a 1 year old with me in F Cabins (show me 4 seats even available! (that are not on Sunday to auh ;))). So it is important for my travel to have an idea of dates.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: AharonInIsrael on December 31, 2015, 05:02:55 PM
I am looking into flying EY F in March from TLV. 2 adults and one infant but will buy the baby his own seat @ 90k. Since RJ Tlv-Amm only opens up 2 award seats, I will probably have to book him as an infant ticket for that flight. Will RJ still allow me to check in the 2 allowed bags for him since he is booked with a regular seat on the Amm-Auh-Jfk segments? TIA
I unfortunately don't know the answer to your question (though I'd be surprised if they'd give you two bags for him).
However, is it true that they always only open up 2 award seats on that route?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Emkay on December 31, 2015, 05:12:09 PM



And the most fun trip is booking a flight while driving to the airport.:)
I did that with my wife before I was even married
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on December 31, 2015, 06:19:31 PM
I unfortunately don't know the answer to your question (though I'd be surprised if they'd give you two bags for him).
However, is it true that they always only open up 2 award seats on that route?

Yes
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: jewdkoff on December 31, 2015, 06:28:18 PM
I unfortunately don't know the answer to your question (though I'd be surprised if they'd give you two bags for him).
However, is it true that they always only open up 2 award seats on that route?
:edited: misread your post


good call with getting 3 seats. I'm kicking myself now for not getting a third seat when apartments was wide open. Dealing with an infant fair is a PITA
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Feivish on January 01, 2016, 02:40:06 AM
Will Cathay booked via AA award check through my luggage to a PG flight that is not on the same PNR?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on January 01, 2016, 02:44:31 AM
Will Cathay booked via AA award check through my luggage to a PG flight that is not on the same PNR?

They technically can
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: SLMYRCB on January 01, 2016, 02:53:02 AM
Will Cathay booked via AA award check through my luggage to a PG flight that is not on the same PNR?

They technically can

...and there's no reason they shouldn't.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Feivish on January 01, 2016, 08:17:31 AM
Many airlines can technically but don't. Would any of you take the risk with a 1.5 hour layover (at BKK)?
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: Aaaron on January 01, 2016, 01:32:27 PM
Is YQ/taxes on HKG-JFK in J supposed to be ~$50pp ($77.60 Australian Dollars)? Was under the impression that it was less but that's what the rep told me when I put the res on hold today.

I just paid $76.16 for BKK-HKG-EWR in J.
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: EJB on January 01, 2016, 04:23:18 PM

Is YQ/taxes on HKG-JFK in J supposed to be ~$50pp ($77.60 Australian Dollars)? Was under the impression that it was less but that's what the rep told me when I put the res on hold today.

Did you take the flight I was looking at!!! What date???
Title: Re: AA Award Flights
Post by: D93 on January 03, 2016, 12:56:27 PM