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Title: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Dan on September 30, 2014, 05:36:36 PM
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Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on September 30, 2014, 05:38:05 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: AJK on September 30, 2014, 05:38:44 PM
Finally, somewhere we can point people.  :D
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Dan on September 30, 2014, 05:39:32 PM
Finally, somewhere we can point people.  :D
From DDS:
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/AirportList
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/HiddenCity
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Codes
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: TimT on September 30, 2014, 05:43:44 PM
Wow, thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: rots5 on September 30, 2014, 05:44:29 PM
sweet!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Something Fishy on September 30, 2014, 05:49:54 PM
Walla! Nice!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: jaywhy on September 30, 2014, 06:21:03 PM
LOL @ "Here at DansDeals we don’t do buses."

Dan, why pick a list of the top 100 US airports over choosing the closest airports within 500 or 1000 miles?
Hidden cities are not constrained to major airports, many times they can terminate at small airports.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: D93 on October 01, 2014, 07:28:25 AM
Thanks!! i copy/pasted "Middle East Airport List:" and on an error came up that said "ADJ is not a valid airport or city"
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: avrumy22 on October 01, 2014, 10:26:00 AM
Wow!!! Awesome!

I had saved the top 100 on ita matrix.

It wont allow me to search with ALL U.S. airports. How do I know what to choose, or just use top 100?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: rots5 on October 01, 2014, 11:25:56 AM
Wow!!! Awesome!

I had saved the top 100 on ita matrix.

It wont allow me to search with ALL U.S. airports. How do I know what to choose, or just use top 100?
broaden ur mile radius
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: avrumy22 on October 01, 2014, 12:36:27 PM
broaden ur mile radius

I keep getting errors.... is it just me?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on October 01, 2014, 12:42:51 PM
I keep getting errors.... is it just me?
Most likely your destination field has your originating airport code in it.

Does that make sense?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PraiseCanada on October 06, 2014, 08:58:03 AM
This seems to happen when I exceed a certain number of airports to search through
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chapshnell on October 22, 2014, 12:56:37 PM
Will I be able to get off in YUL on such a routing?

LGA-YUL-YYZ

Can I walk out of the airport?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yosel on October 22, 2014, 01:00:10 PM
Will I be able to get off in YUL on such a routing?

LGA-YUL-YYZ

Can I walk out of the airport?
yes
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yosel on October 22, 2014, 01:02:20 PM
BTW cheapest O/W ticket fro NYC to YUL, is by booking lga to yqb with a stop at YUL
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Alexsei on October 29, 2014, 01:02:14 PM
BTW cheapest O/W ticket fro NYC to YUL, is by booking lga to yqb with a stop at YUL
-1 Every day and every time would be different
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davmtl on October 30, 2014, 12:01:06 AM
whats the cheapest way YUL to NYC please?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: MEIR613 on October 30, 2014, 12:07:22 AM
whats the cheapest way YUL to NYC please?
Using Avios.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davmtl on October 30, 2014, 02:12:38 AM
Using Avios.
nothing for today!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on October 30, 2014, 02:44:52 AM
whats the cheapest way YUL to NYC please?

Check here - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=44469.0.

Using Avios.

-1, Jet Airways :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on October 30, 2014, 02:46:42 AM
nothing for today!

Yup, only through PHL now, would come out to 9k avios. There is available on Friday early morning and noon time.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davmtl on October 30, 2014, 03:06:49 AM
Thanks, but looks like i'm in for a long drive tomorrow.

Also looking for car rental to jfk and it works out to like $600, so looks like i'm driving Monday too!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on October 30, 2014, 03:19:18 AM
Thanks, but looks like i'm in for a long drive tomorrow.

Also looking for car rental to jfk and it works out to like $600, so looks like i'm driving Monday too!

Oy! FWIW United has an available flight leaving in 3 hours for 10k miles.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davmtl on October 30, 2014, 03:41:25 AM
Oy! FWIW United has an available flight leaving in 3 hours for 10k miles.
thanks! saw that on my aeroplan results,
but
    they want 12.5k points + $80,
    (its to ewr,)
    + bad time as mornings out of YUL to USA are crazy at customs and immigration (done before leaving).

thanks anyway for trying?
do you think i might get lucky in a few hours?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Alexsei on October 30, 2014, 09:31:51 AM
https://skiplagged.com/?src=YUL&dst=NYC&when=2014-10-30&whenBack=&sort=cost
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Geshmak25 on October 30, 2014, 09:47:31 AM
Dan mentions in the DDMS post that you should be careful doing this too many times. Anybody have trouble using this method?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on October 30, 2014, 09:56:56 AM
Dan mentions in the DDMS post that you should be careful doing this too many times. Anybody have trouble using this method?
Carefull with connecting your FF number to the reservation maybe.
I have never heard of anything happening to anyone though, its probably just speculation that they may do something
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davmtl on October 30, 2014, 10:14:46 AM
https://skiplagged.com/?src=YUL&dst=NYC&when=2014-10-30&whenBack=&sort=cost
thanks a million! you're a lifesaver, booked for under 200
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Alexsei on October 30, 2014, 10:28:27 AM
thanks a million! you're a lifesaver, booked for under 200
My pleasure  :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on October 30, 2014, 12:00:18 PM
https://skiplagged.com/?src=YUL&dst=NYC&when=2014-10-30&whenBack=&sort=cost

Cool site.

thanks a million! you're a lifesaver, booked for under 200

So are you going to go for a mini-vacation to Bermuda?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davmtl on November 05, 2014, 02:47:54 AM
Cool site.

So are you going to go for a mini-vacation to Bermuda?
no, I got lost in NY between the flights on my way to JFK  ;)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Excalibur on November 05, 2014, 08:31:37 AM
Is it possible to hidden city ticket nyc to Fresno
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on November 05, 2014, 01:19:38 PM
Is it possible to hidden city ticket nyc to Fresno

If you want to get off at LAX or one of the other stopping points yes. To get off at FAT no. It's an expensive route. Post in the help finding a ticket thread.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ushdadude on November 16, 2014, 06:32:12 PM
Chasid at airport trying to board flight to Chicago and they want to check his carryon. He's fighting like crazy cuz it'll get checked all the way to his "destination" which is atl. He "needs" his bag in ord because of medication. For sure did hidden city
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on November 16, 2014, 06:33:56 PM
Chasid at airport trying to board flight to Chicago and they want to check his carryon. He's fighting like crazy cuz it'll get checked all the way to his "destination" which is atl. He "needs" his bag in ord because of medication. For sure did hidden city

Lol :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2014, 06:34:07 PM
Oiy.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Matovu on November 17, 2014, 12:22:50 AM
What ended up happening.
I would throw away my 40 to 50 dollar carry on and put everything in a shopping bag....
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ilherman on November 17, 2014, 12:34:49 AM
Chasid at airport trying to board flight to Chicago and they want to check his carryon. He's fighting like crazy cuz it'll get checked all the way to his "destination" which is atl. He "needs" his bag in ord because of medication. For sure did hidden city
:)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chapshnell on November 17, 2014, 12:36:37 AM
luckily I guess he had his head on his shoulders.. some people are not clear about these things..
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ushdadude on November 17, 2014, 12:24:52 PM
luckily I guess he had his head on his shoulders.. some people are not clear about these things..

not really. they were the last 2 to board. I prob would have gotten there earlier if this was a possibility. Consider it a warning to all those hidden city'ers. GET TO THE GATE EARLY!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda57 on November 17, 2014, 01:16:00 PM
Chasid at airport trying to board flight to Chicago and they want to check his carryon. He's fighting like crazy cuz it'll get checked all the way to his "destination" which is atl. He "needs" his bag in ord because of medication. For sure did hidden city

Or it could have been my father, in his sixties, who "fought like crazy" because of medication and food (Kashrus aside, he has a lot of food allergies and can't touch airline meals) in his bag, which they forced him to check in to the final destination - a 17 hour international flight and most definitely NOT a hidden city ticket. He managed to shove the medication in his Tallis bag, but arrived absolutely famished and had a nightmare flight.

This particular case wasn't him, 'cause his layover was Atlanta and not Chicago, but not every Chassid is pulling a trick.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ushdadude on November 17, 2014, 02:58:00 PM
Or it could have been my father, in his sixties, who "fought like crazy" because of medication and food (Kashrus aside, he has a lot of food allergies and can't touch airline meals) in his bag, which they forced him to check in to the final destination - a 17 hour international flight and most definitely NOT a hidden city ticket. He managed to shove the medication in his Tallis bag, but arrived absolutely famished and had a nightmare flight.

This particular case wasn't him, 'cause his layover was Atlanta and not Chicago, but not every Chassid is pulling a trick.

You could be right. However, my conclusion still stands: if it is extremely important to have your carry-on with you, don't be the last one on the plane.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochada on November 17, 2014, 09:56:47 PM
Chasid at airport trying to board flight to Chicago and they want to check his carryon. He's fighting like crazy cuz it'll get checked all the way to his "destination" which is atl. He "needs" his bag in ord because of medication. For sure did hidden city

I had a similar situation. I am platinum on DL. Booked hidden city from NY back home and got confirmed standby on an earlier flight.  A red coat (DL supervisor) tried calling for my bag on my "layover" but it was too late. My wife's jewelry, tefillin, meds, etc. in there.  Overheads were EMPTY. Red coat was surprised they forced me, or anyone for that matter, to check the bags.  Got 20k points, ticket reimbursed, and purposely "missed" my flight. They delivered my bag to me the following AM.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: elit on November 20, 2014, 05:35:28 PM
Conversation on bloomburg radio right now re united and orbitz law suit against hidden city ticketing website
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Alexsei on November 20, 2014, 06:12:58 PM
Conversation on bloomburg radio right now re united and orbitz law suit against hidden city ticketing website
Skiplegged?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Alexsei on November 20, 2014, 06:13:32 PM
Skiplegged?
FTFM
http://www.flyertalk.com/story/united-orbitz-sue-skiplagged-com-over-hidden-city-fares.html
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: elit on November 20, 2014, 06:13:52 PM
Skiplegged?
Didn't catch the name but sounds right
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on November 20, 2014, 08:14:08 PM
http://www.flyertalk.com/story/united-orbitz-sue-skiplagged-com-over-hidden-city-fares.html

Will they soon sue matrix too for having the capability?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: AJK on November 23, 2014, 01:17:50 PM
No.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PBaruch on November 25, 2014, 09:54:43 AM
Seems like a Fox News reporter might have gone to a DDS:

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2014/11/24/what-airlines-dont-want-to-know-about-hidden-city-ticketing/?intcmp=HPBucket
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Something Fishy on November 25, 2014, 10:06:40 AM
Seems like a Fox News reporter might have gone to a DDS:

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2014/11/24/what-airlines-dont-want-to-know-about-hidden-city-ticketing/?intcmp=HPBucket

But... but... why are my bags in Boston?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: TimT on November 25, 2014, 10:07:01 AM
Seems like a Fox News reporter might have gone to a DDS:

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2014/11/24/what-airlines-dont-want-to-know-about-hidden-city-ticketing/?intcmp=HPBucket
Or read one of these blogs that spell it out.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: coralsnake on November 25, 2014, 10:16:50 AM
My grandmothers been usining hidden-city since way before the interweb was around.

Good travel agent.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Something Fishy on November 25, 2014, 10:53:33 AM
My grandmothers been usining hidden-city since way before the interweb was around.

Good travel agent.

(https://i.imgflip.com/ek9cn.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/ek9cn)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: tmendy226 on November 27, 2014, 05:08:35 PM
Is the hidden city feature down?? I tried looking for a flight in different ways but all of them give me the same message "The search failed with exceeded boombox request quota."

(this is even when I try from 1 city to another 1 with a stopover in a certain city)

Any help??
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Myccrabbi on November 27, 2014, 05:09:25 PM
Is the hidden city feature down?? I tried looking for a flight in different ways but all of them give me the same message "The search failed with exceeded boombox request quota."

(this is even when I try from 1 city to another 1 with a stopover in a certain city)

Any help??
+1
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: tmendy226 on November 27, 2014, 05:17:34 PM
It seems like it's completely down. try to look for a regular flight and it didn't work. their mobile app seems to work though (but it doesn't have all the desktop features)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on November 27, 2014, 05:21:35 PM
Is the hidden city feature down?? I tried looking for a flight in different ways but all of them give me the same message "The search failed with exceeded boombox request quota."

(this is even when I try from 1 city to another 1 with a stopover in a certain city)

Any help??

Yup same happening for me as well, yesterday too. Maybe has to do with http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46923.0.

Will they soon sue matrix too for having the capability?

No.

Didn't find a lawsuit tied to it, but seems to be down now.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on November 27, 2014, 07:25:12 PM
Yup same happening for me as well, yesterday too. Maybe has to do with http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46923.0.

Worked for me now. Tried on a NYC to LAX (hidden city) to 500 mile radius and it worked fine.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ilherman on November 27, 2014, 07:43:53 PM
Yup same happening for me as well, yesterday too. Maybe has to do with http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46923.0.

Didn't find a lawsuit tied to it, but seems to be down now.
Nah.. they always manage to have issues in some way. Its just a glitch....
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Centro on November 27, 2014, 07:57:17 PM
Nah.. they always manage to have issues in some way. Its just a glitch....
If its a glitch then it'll probably die soon ;) (כאן צריך לצחוק)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ilherman on November 27, 2014, 08:07:43 PM
If its a glitch then it'll probably die soon ;) (כאן צריך לצחוק)
;D ;D ;D ROTFL.
 :P
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: tmendy226 on November 27, 2014, 09:12:52 PM
yes seems to be back on
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ah8586 on December 10, 2014, 11:54:35 PM
Hi,

does anyone have an airport list that generates the most hits for the LA-NY route?

thanks!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on December 11, 2014, 02:49:12 AM
Hi,

does anyone have an airport list that generates the most hits for the LA-NY route?

thanks!
Your not gonna get one
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Alexsei on December 14, 2014, 03:29:24 PM
Hi,

does anyone have an airport list that generates the most hits for the LA-NY route?

thanks!
Combine lists from wiki
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: maxmiles on December 17, 2014, 10:13:38 AM
Question, if i buy a HC ticket using my Delta Frequent flier number will my points/ MQM be posted even though i "missed" the last leg?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on December 17, 2014, 10:25:54 AM
Question, if i buy a HC ticket using my Delta Frequent flier number will my points/ MQM be posted even though i "missed" the last leg?
You would only get points for the legs you took.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: maxmiles on December 17, 2014, 01:55:06 PM
You would only get points for the legs you took.

thanks!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chaikel on December 17, 2014, 02:40:31 PM
Anyone have an AU list?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: joelr773 on December 30, 2014, 01:18:07 AM
United Airlines suing 22-year-old NYC man who figured out how to get cheaper plane tickets | New York's PIX11 / WPIX-TV - http://pix11.com/2014/12/29/united-airlines-suing-22-year-old-nyc-man-who-figured-out-how-to-get-cheaper-plane-tickets/
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: TimT on December 30, 2014, 01:23:45 AM
United Airlines suing 22-year-old NYC man who figured out how to get cheaper plane tickets | New York's PIX11 / WPIX-TV - http://pix11.com/2014/12/29/united-airlines-suing-22-year-old-nyc-man-who-figured-out-how-to-get-cheaper-plane-tickets/
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=45539.msg973834#msg973834
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46923.0
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ueaiouioei on December 30, 2014, 09:17:14 AM
United Airlines suing 22-year-old NYC man who figured out how to get cheaper plane tickets | New York's PIX11 / WPIX-TV - http://pix11.com/2014/12/29/united-airlines-suing-22-year-old-nyc-man-who-figured-out-how-to-get-cheaper-plane-tickets/

If it's on the front page of reddit then Dansdeals had it covered yesterday ;)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: westman812 on December 31, 2014, 03:18:57 PM
If it's on the front page of reddit then Dansdeals had it covered yesterday ;)
PHL-TLV for Pesach, 4/1-4/12 can be had for $1,386 if you add a leg to toronto. Cheaper if you use AA gift cards. Should I post my address so AA can serve notice?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigbadmoish on January 01, 2015, 04:26:05 PM
I just booked from PBI to JFK using hidden city. I'm traveleing with 2 kids so need a stroller. I called CS and they said I will be able to get my stroller at JFK as long as I tell them at PBI... Anyone have any experience with this?4
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Centro on January 01, 2015, 04:28:28 PM
I just booked from PBI to JFK using hidden city. I'm traveleing with 2 kids so need a stroller. I called CS and they said I will be able to get my stroller at JFK as long as I tell them at PBI... Anyone have any experience with this?4
If you're not checking in the stroller - you're passing the gate with it- then you should get it back when getting off the plane.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigbadmoish on January 01, 2015, 04:32:49 PM
If you're not checking in the stroller - you're passing the gate with it- then you should get it back when getting off the plane.
Thanks. No chance of me getting checked luggage? Even with a 4hr stopover and 2 little kinderlach?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 01, 2015, 05:13:24 PM
Thanks. No chance of me getting checked luggage? Even with a 4hr stopover and 2 little kinderlach?
I wouldn't take that risk.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ilherman on January 01, 2015, 08:35:22 PM
Dans post on the MS about UA letting the masses know that they over pay is sooooo true. Both, my Father and FIL just asked me today that they read about hidden city, and they tell me "wow I can save a lot of money"

Good move United!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chapshnell on January 01, 2015, 08:47:33 PM
They didnt know about it before?? From a son/eidim like you??? Shocker!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ilherman on January 01, 2015, 11:35:47 PM
They didnt know about it before?? From a son/eidim like you??? Shocker!
No! Im the familys travel agent. They don't care about anything they just leave it up to me  :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chapshnell on January 01, 2015, 11:38:06 PM
I know.. when I help people with this I do explain that they throw away the 2nd boarding pass. dont take luggage etc.. I got like 50 texts MINIMUM OMG OMG its coming to an end. lol
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: DMYD on January 01, 2015, 11:41:06 PM
I know.. when I help people with this I do explain that they throw away the 2nd boarding pass. dont take luggage etc.. I got like 50 texts MINIMUM OMG OMG its coming to an end. lol
There is nothing that they can do about it. well who knows!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigbadmoish on January 01, 2015, 11:44:59 PM
There is nothing that they can do about it. well who knows!
Under the 'legal' tab on Delta's home page it says that if you use any of these mehalchim (paraphrasing slightly) they have the right to charge you for the difference between the price you paid and how much it would cost just for the last leg... Or something to that affect. That wld definitely put a damper on things. 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: DMYD on January 01, 2015, 11:48:17 PM
Under the 'legal' tab on Delta's home page it says that if you use any of these mehalchim (paraphrasing slightly) they have the right to charge you for the difference between the price you paid and how much it would cost just for the last leg... Or something to that affect. That wld definitely put a damper on things.
How would that work? you don't pay for your flight after you land.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chapshnell on January 01, 2015, 11:50:06 PM
As long as you dont put your FFN on the res they cant do anything.. they cant force you to board the next flight.. end of discussion
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 01, 2015, 11:57:06 PM
As long as you dont put your FFN on the res they cant do anything.. they cant force you to board the next flight.. end of discussion
+1 And who can prove that you didnt just "miss" the second flight?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigbadmoish on January 01, 2015, 11:59:54 PM
+1 And who can prove that you didnt just "miss" the second flight?
I'm not saying they could actually collect... If they wanted to slow things down they would just send you a bill... I bet a lot of people would stop doing it. DDFers excluded obviously. Also, I just booked hidden city, I should NOT put my FFN#? How baad is it if I already did?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 02, 2015, 12:04:56 AM
I'm not saying they could actually collect... If they wanted to slow things down they would just send you a bill... I bet a lot of people would stop doing it. DDFers excluded obviously. Also, I just booked hidden city, I should NOT put my FFN#? How baad is it if I already did?
Just swap it out for a partner airline
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigbadmoish on January 02, 2015, 06:41:55 AM
Just swap it out for a partner airline
will do thanks.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigbadmoish on January 05, 2015, 03:12:01 PM
not sure if this is such a metzia but just found JFK to TLV layover in SVO $616 round trip, layover is 1hr 40 min there and 3hr 40 min back. dates that i needed are 1/29 returning 2/2
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bear92 on January 07, 2015, 10:18:35 PM
can you take bags on a delta connection  fll-jfk-ric and staying in jfk ?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chapshnell on January 07, 2015, 10:21:34 PM
can you take bags on a delta connection  fll-jfk-ric and staying in jfk ?

only a carry on...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigbadmoish on January 07, 2015, 10:45:06 PM
can you take bags on a delta connection  fll-jfk-ric and staying in jfk ?
and make sure you get there early so they don't check you carryon.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Geshmak25 on January 12, 2015, 12:06:33 PM
Booked a hidden city with destination in bahamas. Will they ask me to see return ticket from bahamas? Officially you need to show two way tickets in order to enter into bahamas. I'm obviously not intending on going to the bahamas but wondering if they check that when you arrive at the airport?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 159dallas on January 12, 2015, 12:09:47 PM
I am flying US Airways TLV-PHL then PHL-LGA. Can i miss the connecting flight? I have 3 more flights on the same itinerary including a return PHL-TLV will those be canceled if i miss 1 leg?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: damaxer91 on January 12, 2015, 12:12:09 PM
I am flying US Airways TLV-PHL then PHL-LGA. Can i miss the connecting flight? I have 3 more flights on the same itinerary including a return PHL-TLV will those be canceled if i miss 1 leg?

Yes, they will be canceled
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: momo on January 12, 2015, 12:12:39 PM
I am flying US Airways TLV-PHL then PHL-LGA. Can i miss the connecting flight? I have 3 more flights on the same itinerary including a return PHL-TLV will those be canceled if i miss 1 leg?
yes they will be cancelled
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: TimT on January 12, 2015, 12:13:51 PM
I am flying US Airways TLV-PHL then PHL-LGA. Can i miss the connecting flight? I have 3 more flights on the same itinerary including a return PHL-TLV will those be canceled if i miss 1 leg?
The one you plan to miss is supposed to be the last one.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on January 13, 2015, 04:33:12 PM
Nice success story. I've been helping my friends in Yeshiva (in FL) get cheap tickets to NY for 10 Shvat. Cheapest normal round-trip ticket is $186 with Spirit (😣) and $235 Jet Blue (w stopovers) and $276 for cheapest direct.

With hidden cities (learned at DDS) we get $169, no stopovers, and on Delta and AA!

Love it!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on January 13, 2015, 04:36:18 PM
Nice success story. I've been helping my friends in Yeshiva (in FL) get cheap tickets to NY for 10 Shvat. Cheapest normal round-trip ticket is $186 with Spirit (😣) and $235 Jet Blue (w stopovers) and $276 for cheapest direct.

With hidden cities (learned at DDS) we get $169, no stopovers, and on Delta and AA!

Love it!
Where was the final stop?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on January 13, 2015, 04:41:31 PM
Where was the final stop?
It's PBI - LGA - PIT (Delta)
And JFK - MIA - JAX (AA)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigbadmoish on January 13, 2015, 09:16:12 PM
just randomly found this on ITA: One way MIA to BWI stop in JFK $87 Jan 21 AA
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on January 14, 2015, 07:44:06 AM
just randomly found this on ITA: One way MIA to BWI stop in JFK $87 Jan 21 AA
You can get cheaper with united via RDU to EWR
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigbadmoish on January 14, 2015, 07:45:08 AM
You can get cheaper with united via RDU to EWR
same date?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on January 14, 2015, 07:48:06 AM
same date?
Thought so but just double checked, its the days around it.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 3yummyboys on January 14, 2015, 01:56:49 PM
How does hidden city ticketing work for award tix? I know noone wants to directly answer the question, but can you point me in the right direction? Is it even possible?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: aradisc on January 14, 2015, 02:21:49 PM
How does hidden city ticketing work for award tix? I know noone wants to directly answer the question, but can you point me in the right direction? Is it even possible?

Why? Award ticketing tends to have more straightforward pricing by region, as well as routing restrictions which would preclude hidden city.

For example on AA you might think you could book NA>Asia 2>Asia 1 for the NA>Asia 1 rate, but the routing rule restricts you from connecting between two regions in a third region (with a list of certain allowed exceptions, but a glance at them doesn't reveal any obvious hidden city opportunities)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: jaywhy on January 14, 2015, 02:59:02 PM
How does hidden city ticketing work for award tix? I know noone wants to directly answer the question, but can you point me in the right direction? Is it even possible?
United's award chart has some of these opportunities.
Dan has posted about a couple I believe.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 3yummyboys on January 14, 2015, 04:01:09 PM
Link?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Dr Moose on January 14, 2015, 04:04:05 PM
Link?
DDS
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on January 15, 2015, 05:07:39 PM
any risks gate checking a stroller with hidden city?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochada on January 15, 2015, 05:28:23 PM
any risks gate checking a stroller with hidden city?

Yes, generally they won't short check any gate checked items IME.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 3yummyboys on January 15, 2015, 06:11:58 PM
They won't let you claim the stroller when you deplane? How are you supposed to walk around the airport with baby?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on January 15, 2015, 06:13:30 PM
They won't let you claim the stroller when you deplane? How are you supposed to walk around the airport with baby?
Not always
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 3yummyboys on January 15, 2015, 06:44:44 PM
That's rough
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Alexsei on January 15, 2015, 08:55:44 PM
How does hidden city ticketing work for award tix? I know noone wants to directly answer the question, but can you point me in the right direction? Is it even possible?
The process is sometimes called fuel dumping
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Dr Moose on January 16, 2015, 07:50:27 AM
The process is sometimes called fuel dumping
that's something else, there is a way to do a hidden city to save some miles
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on January 16, 2015, 07:52:25 AM
The process is sometimes called fuel dumping
Its only called that its fuel dumping. Nit when its hidden city
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Alexsei on January 16, 2015, 09:14:46 AM
that's something else, there is a way to do a hidden city to save some miles
Correct, here is a great resource http://canadiankilometers.boardingarea.com/?s=fuel+dumping
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 3yummyboys on January 16, 2015, 10:36:00 AM
No need to fuel dump when flying to HI but I would love to save a few miles ...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Tzafnas Paneach on January 16, 2015, 10:38:18 AM
How does hidden city ticketing work for award tix? I know noone wants to directly answer the question, but can you point me in the right direction? Is it even possible?

This might be a useful resource. No experience myself, but sounds like this is the basic concept from a little googling.
http://www.milevalue.com/save-15000-miles-with-the-hidden-city-trick-on-your-next-award/
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lunatic on January 16, 2015, 10:42:06 AM
This might be a useful resource. No experience myself, but sounds like this is the basic concept from a little googling.
http://www.milevalue.com/save-15000-miles-with-the-hidden-city-trick-on-your-next-award/

This is probably the kind of tricks at dds ☺
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Tzafnas Paneach on January 16, 2015, 11:13:03 AM
This is probably the kind of tricks at dds ☺
Is it bad that I posted that link then? Should I delete it? Dan tries to be secretive with DDS information in general...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: @Yehuda on January 16, 2015, 11:42:30 AM
Saving a couple of miles is nice, but to me, the real trick would be to find married segments that have availability (when just 1 segment doesn't) and then getting the rep to divorce the segement you need.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lunatic on January 16, 2015, 11:47:33 AM
Is it bad that I posted that link then? Should I delete it? Dan tries to be secretive with DDS information in general...

Don't think it's a problem. Anyone can find with Google
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: keravelt on January 18, 2015, 08:26:41 PM
What happened to the master list of airport codes for use in the ITA matrix?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: kangarruu on January 18, 2015, 08:32:41 PM
This might be a useful resource. No experience myself, but sounds like this is the basic concept from a little googling.
http://www.milevalue.com/save-15000-miles-with-the-hidden-city-trick-on-your-next-award/

Also, not all of the routes are applicable on the new UA award chart. For example, the Caribbean is no longer cheaper than mainland USA from HI.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: TimT on January 18, 2015, 08:34:23 PM
What happened to the master list of airport codes for use in the ITA matrix?
The wiki list ?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigbadmoish on January 20, 2015, 10:25:01 AM
I'm doing a hidden city ticket now... I was told to put a partner ffn on my ticket instead of delta... I don't have any partner ffn (at least I don't think so) does it make sense to open a partner ffn just for this? If yes which one? TIA
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2015, 12:43:29 PM
Doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on January 20, 2015, 12:45:44 PM
I'm doing a hidden city ticket now... I was told to put a partner ffn on my ticket instead of delta... I don't have any partner ffn (at least I don't think so) does it make sense to open a partner ffn just for this? If yes which one? TIA
Why were you told to that?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigbadmoish on January 20, 2015, 12:46:02 PM
Doesn't matter.
i know for the sake of not getting in trouble it doesnt matter, just wanted to know what was the best partner to get involved with, might be a moot point because i already took off. can i still add ffn?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigbadmoish on January 20, 2015, 12:47:53 PM
Why were you told to that?
dan writs that i  his original write up about it and it was mentioned here as well. im assuming its so tey cant track you if you do it multiple times.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigbadmoish on January 20, 2015, 05:03:54 PM
Pulled it off without a hitch b'h. We each had a carryon and a personal item. Seems like they 1st check in the carryons with wheels but at the end they checked everything in. I was there just in time to make the cutoff. The guy behin me had carryon with wheels and they wanted to check it in but he told them "I need things inside for the stopover" they went back and forth and eventually let him theough.

Do not rely on that as you may not be so lucky.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ushdadude on January 21, 2015, 11:40:42 AM
Pulled it off without a hitch b'h. We each had a carryon and a personal item. Seems like they 1st check in the carryons with wheels but at the end they checked everything in. I was there just in time to make the cutoff. The guy behin me had carryon with wheels and they wanted to check it in but he told them "I need things inside for the stopover" they went back and forth and eventually let him theough.

Do not rely on that as you may not be so lucky.

if doing this, board as soon as possible. Don't wait until the end.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Alexsei on January 27, 2015, 08:49:47 PM
Central America added to wiki
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Lou Bob on January 27, 2015, 08:53:16 PM
Booked a flight today that should have been $1180 rt, got it for $342 rt  8)
And way below the cost of a mileage ticket.

The wiki is awesome
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on January 27, 2015, 09:20:55 PM
Booked a flight today that should have been $1180 rt, got it for $342 rt  8)
And way below the cost of a mileage ticket.

The wiki is awesome
if you don't mind me asking from where to where?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Mimi K. on January 31, 2015, 11:19:59 PM
Just booked for $244 for $450 ticket.  ;D
I originally booked RT EWR-ORD for $202.
Then I noticed on my Google Calendar that I did it for 2/10-2/11 instead of 2/3-2/4  :-[ :-[
I called AA and they offered to switch it for free just pay the last minute fare price difference of $750  >:(
I have 20K AA so I booked the return ($650 one way) with that (+$86 Tax)
and got EWR-ORD-OMA for $244.
Still expensive but better than $900+
Would've been nice to pick up 40K AA for Cheap but the lowest quote was 1.4  :o
I never actually used HC before.
Thanks for the Wiki.
Saved the day. :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Joe4007 on January 31, 2015, 11:35:52 PM
And they just refunded you the original ticket?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Mimi K. on February 01, 2015, 12:40:42 AM
Not yet.
I'm waiting on hold.
I'm in middle of booking to ASD so I may just take a AA Credit
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Joe4007 on February 01, 2015, 12:41:39 AM
Good luck!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Mimi K. on February 03, 2015, 12:23:19 AM
Good luck!
The first rep (fri) said I can't cancel I can only apply it to another ticket.
I knew I could fight as it was within 24 hrs but I was booking another ticket after Shabbos anyway.
After shabbos after a whopping 4.5 hr wait they said its too late and I can "change it for $200"
Annoying. I know I can get it off if I have the paitence but the callback came when I was driving.
Now I have to book my next flight before it goes up and I will have to fight this one at a later date.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Joe4007 on February 03, 2015, 12:26:10 AM
I knew I could fight as it was within 24 hrs
With AA that's not the case.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Mimi K. on February 03, 2015, 12:27:07 AM
Question;
I have my Flight in the morning AA4221 EWR-ORD-OMA
I tried to check in but it says no seats available and I must come to the counter.  ???
Am I screwed?
Will they try to send me to Omaha?
I need to be in Chicago.
I hope this works out.
I hope it is just because of the storm.
By 10am delays should clear up. A"KYHR
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Mimi K. on February 03, 2015, 12:29:45 AM
With AA that's not the case.
She said I can change w/o any fees.
I have another ticket to book so that is just as good for me right now
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on February 03, 2015, 03:22:02 PM
It's PBI - LGA - PIT (Delta)
And JFK - MIA - JAX (AA)
We had our Return flight yesterday. Was supposed to depart early morning but was canceled due to snow and they put us on a flight, same route, later in the day. The new flight then got delayed for 3 hours (runway changes, runway plowing, de-icing etc.) and by the time we landed in MIA we had missed the connection to JAX. I called them now and am getting refunded for MIA - JAX leg!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: VacationLover on February 03, 2015, 05:00:58 PM
We had our Return flight yesterday. Was supposed to depart early morning but was canceled due to snow and they put us on a flight, same route, later in the day. The new flight then got delayed for 3 hours (runway changes, runway plowing, de-icing etc.) and By the time we landed in MIA we had missed the connection to JAX. I called them now and am getting refunded for MIA - JAX leg!
Wow. How much $?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: D93 on February 03, 2015, 05:06:15 PM
We had our Return flight yesterday. Was supposed to depart early morning but was canceled due to snow and they put us on a flight, same route, later in the day. The new flight then got delayed for 3 hours (runway changes, runway plowing, de-icing etc.) and By the time we landed in MIA we had missed the connection to JAX. I called them now and am getting refunded for MIA - JAX leg!
You're lucky they didn't reroute you a different way to JAX!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on February 03, 2015, 05:08:58 PM
Wow. How much $?
Idk yet, I'll let you know when I see it on my statement.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on February 03, 2015, 05:09:41 PM
You're lucky they didn't reroute you a different way to JAX!
They actually offered me a different route but I told them I had a meeting in MIA.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: HolyNyc on February 03, 2015, 06:32:19 PM
1 way NYC-LHR or BRU or AMS or CDG  for less than $399 search NYC-SVO
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 04:56:11 PM
If this topic was covered before, I apologize.  Do you typically earn FF miles with a hidden city ticket where you skip the second leg?  Also, if the miles do not show up automatically, is it worth it to call the airline (in this case UA) or will that just red flag what I did?

TIA
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on February 04, 2015, 05:31:56 PM
If this topic was covered before, I apologize.  Do you typically earn FF miles with a hidden city ticket where you skip the second leg?  Also, if the miles do not show up automatically, is it worth it to call the airline (in this case UA) or will that just red flag what I did?

TIA
The consensus here is to not put your frequent flyer number on the reservation, let alone call, though like lots of the consensus' here it's probably baseless
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 05:35:06 PM
The consensus here is to not put your frequent flyer number on the reservation, let alone call, though like lots of the consensus' here it's probably baseless

Thanks.  I just checked again and the miles showed up.   ;D ;D ;D

PS:  Had no problem checking my luggage and gate checking the stroller.  I just told them I needed everything at the stopover.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 04, 2015, 05:46:32 PM
Is not taking the last leg of the trip grounds for them to kick you out of FF program and/or lose your miles?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 05:48:59 PM
Is not taking the last leg of the trip grounds for them to kick you out of FF program and/or lose your miles?

Hopefully not.  That being said, I've been thrown out of better places.   ;D
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Lou Bob on February 04, 2015, 06:22:23 PM
Is not taking the last leg of the trip grounds for them to kick you out of FF program and/or lose your miles?
Dont input your frequent flyer number.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on February 04, 2015, 10:09:59 PM
Thanks.  I just checked again and the miles showed up.   ;D ;D ;D

PS:  Had no problem checking my luggage and gate checking the stroller.  I just told them I needed everything at the stopover.

Same here, just did Hidden city last week, they checked my luggage to my stopover (though it was a 16 hour stopover) and got my miles.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Lou Bob on February 04, 2015, 10:14:29 PM
Same here, just did Hidden city last week, they checked my luggage to my stopover (though it was a 16 hour stopover) and got my miles.
I wouldn't rely on them giving me luggage at stopover city.
And eventually, they'll realize what ur doing and will probably shut ur FF account
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 10:16:39 PM
I wouldn't rely on them giving me luggage at stopover city.
And eventually, they'll realize what ur doing and will probably shut ur FF account

Are you speaking from experience or out of an abundance of caution?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on February 04, 2015, 10:21:59 PM
I wouldn't rely on them giving me luggage at stopover city.

Why not? They printed my luggage tags only to the stopover so it couldn't have gone further.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Lou Bob on February 04, 2015, 10:36:15 PM
Why not? They printed my luggage tags only to the stopover so it couldn't have gone further.
that's most probably because you had a 16 hour layover.
Try doing that when you have an hour and half stop.
Are you speaking from experience or out of an abundance of caution?
caution.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 10:38:03 PM
that's most probably because you had a 16 hour layover.
Try doing that when you have an hour and half stop. caution.

Do you know of anyone who had their FF account shut down for doing hidden city ticketing?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on February 05, 2015, 04:57:21 AM
Dont input your frequent flyer number.
For someone that doesn't do this constantly there is no reason

And eventually, they'll realize what ur doing and will probably shut ur FF account
When is eventually going to happen?  I know people who do this every other week and have never heard anyone getting shut down
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Lou Bob on February 05, 2015, 08:27:02 AM
On a large scale, usair took all the miles back from last year's hidden city trick to tlv.

I don't know of anyone actually getting shut down. Play the game, but just know the risks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: AharonInIsrael on February 11, 2015, 03:39:24 PM
On a EWR-FRA-LHR flight, can I get my bags out at FRA?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on February 15, 2015, 09:29:45 AM
Wow. How much $?
$33.31 (almost half the ticket)!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: jaywhy on February 17, 2015, 08:37:32 AM
FYI: JFK-MIA-PAP is a great hidden city that often doesn't show up in ITA.
And you need proof of a return ticket to board the outbound. Found out the hard way :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bznt on February 17, 2015, 08:46:47 AM
If you need a return ticket. Then its not usable? Or you book a return right before boarding and cancel it after boarding?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: jaywhy on February 17, 2015, 08:51:25 AM
If you need a return ticket. Then its not usable? Or you book a return right before boarding and cancel it after boarding?
The latter.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: reed on February 17, 2015, 09:21:57 AM
The latter.

Do you need to use your passport to use this hidden city?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: EJB on February 17, 2015, 09:41:14 AM
FYI: JFK-MIA-PAP is a great hidden city that often doesn't show up in ITA.
And you need proof of a return ticket to board the outbound. Found out the hard way :)

Doesnt look so great to me...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: reed on February 17, 2015, 09:56:20 AM
Doesnt look so great to me...

Looks great to me. Just not sure about logistics. When do you use go through customs and passport ect.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ethana on February 17, 2015, 10:08:59 AM
is multi-city different that hidden city? meaning can I check in luggage and not have it checked all the way through, or is it the same as hidden city where its only carry on?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: EJB on February 17, 2015, 10:10:27 AM
Looks great to me. Just not sure about logistics. When do you use go through customs and passport ect.

What price do you see? I see a very similar price to NYC-MIA nonstop, even higher on many dates.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bznt on February 17, 2015, 10:13:39 AM
" Found out the hard way "
Can you elaborate? What happened ?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: jaywhy on February 17, 2015, 10:56:58 AM
Do you need to use your passport to use this hidden city?
Yes, you need your passport.
What price do you see? I see a very similar price to NYC-MIA nonstop, even higher on many dates.
It works very well for last minute winter weekend flights to MIA.
" Found out the hard way "
Can you elaborate? What happened ?
I booked this for a friend. They wouldn't allow him to checkin without proof of a return flight.
I booked him a return on Priceline and cancelled after he took off.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shidduch on February 17, 2015, 12:24:00 PM
Can you get your luggage at MIA, or no luggage on this hidden city?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shidduch on February 17, 2015, 12:25:26 PM
Any good hidden cities for MIA, FLL, PBI to NYC?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: DMYD on February 17, 2015, 12:29:51 PM
Any good hidden cities for MIA, FLL, PBI to NYC?
What did you find?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on February 17, 2015, 01:05:44 PM
Any good hidden cities for MIA, FLL, PBI to NYC?
In my experience you can get good hidden cities from those airports by doing MIA/PBI - NYC - PIT. Try some dates out.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Lou Bob on February 20, 2015, 02:39:19 AM
Booked a flight today that should have been $1180 rt, got it for $342 rt  8)
And way below the cost of a mileage ticket.

The wiki is awesome
if you don't mind me asking from where to where?
I used ita matrix and got this...
Jfk-slc-abq
SLC-JFK-rdu
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: headedtoeu on March 18, 2015, 02:16:14 PM
where can i find ITA MATRIX codes for EUROPE?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chucksterace on March 18, 2015, 02:17:13 PM
where can i find ITA MATRIX codes for EUROPE?

In the WIKI
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: DMYD on March 18, 2015, 02:18:42 PM
where can i find ITA MATRIX codes for EUROPE?
Or here:
Europe Airport List (top 150):
ABZ, AER, ALC, AMS, ACE, ATH, GYD, BCN, BRI, BSL, BHD, BFS, BEG, BGO, SXF, TXL, BIO, BLL, BHX, BOO, BLQ, BOD, BTS, BRE, BRS, BRU, BBU, OTP, BUD, CAG, CWL, CTA, CRL, CPH, ORK, DTM, DRS, DUB, DUS, EMA, EDI, EVN, FAO, FLR, FRA, FUE, FNC, GDN, GVA, GRO, GLA, PIK, GOT, GCI, HHN, HAM, HAJ, HEL, HER, IBZ, IOM, JER, KGD, KTW, KBP, CGN, KRK, KRR, LPA, LBA, LEJ, LIS, LPL, LJU, LCY, LGW, LHR, LTN, STN, LUX, LYS, MAD, MAH, AGP, MLA, MAN, MRS, LIN, MXP, BGY, MCM, DME, SVO, VKO, FMO, MUC, MJV, NTE, NAP, NCL, NCE, NUE, OLB, OSL, TRF, PMO, PMI, CDG, ORY, PSA, OPO, PRG, KEF, RHO, RIX, CIA, FCO, ROV, KUF, SPC, SVQ, SNN, SIP, SOF, SOU, LED, SVG, ARN, BMA, SXB, STR, TLL, TFS, TFN, SKG, TSR, TIA, TLS, TOS, TRD, TRN, VLC, VCE, VRN, VIE, VNO, WAW, WRO, ZAG, ZRH

Europe FULL list:
AAL, AES, AAR, ABA, ADA, ADF, AER, AGF, AJI, AJA, AEY, ABC, AXD, AHO, ALC, LEI, ALF, ACH, XXA, AMV, AMS, DYR, AAQ, AOI, ANX, AGH, ANE, ESB, NCY, AYT, ANR, ARW, ARH, AJR, ASF, OVD, JTY, ATH, AUR, XYP, AVN, BCM, BJZ, BAY, BNX, BCN, BDU, BRI, BAX, BSL, BIA, BAL, EGO, BEG, BGO, EGC, BJF, BVG, BER, TXL, SXF, THF, BRN, BZR, BIQ, BIO, BLL, BQS, BOO, BJV, BWK, BLQ, BZO, BOD, BLE, RNN, BOJ, BTS, BTK, BRE, BES, BDS, BVE, BRQ, BNN, BRU, CRL, OTP, BUH, BBU, BUD, YEI, BZG, CFR, CAG, CLY, CKZ, DCM, CTA, CMF, CHQ, CSY, CEK, CEE, CWC, CYX, JKH, KIV, HTA, CKH, CFE, CLJ, CGN, CND, CPH, CFU, ORK, CVU, CRA, CUF, FCN, DLM, DNZ, DNR, DIY, DNK, CFN, DOK, DTM, DRS, DUB, DBV, DUS, EDO, EGS, EIN, EIB, SVX, EZS, EBA, EIE, XWQ, ENF, ECN, ERF, ERC, ERZ, EBJ, AOE, VDB, FAO, FAE, FSC, XYI, FLR, FLW, FRO, FOG, FDE, FRL, FRA, HHN, FDH, FUE, GEV, GWY, GZT, GDN, GVA, GOA, GRO, GIB, GRW, GRX, GRZ, GNB, GRY, GRQ, GRV, GOT, GSE, HFS, HAD, HAM, HFT, HAJ, EVE, XWP, HAA, HTG, HAU, XXU, HDB, HGL, HEL, HMV, HER, HDF, XYC, HOQ, HVG, HOR, HUV, IAS, IBZ, IAA, JIK, INN, IOA, IKT, IFJ, IST, IVL, IFO, ADB, IZM, XRY, JOE, JKG, JYV, KCM, KAJ, KLX, KGD, KLR, JKL, KDL, KLV, FKB, KSD, AOK, KSY, KRP, KSJ, KSF, KZS, KSO, KTW, XXK, KVA, ASR, KZN, EFL, KEJ, KEM, KIR, KHV, HMA, HRK, KHE, KBP, IEV, KKN, KVK, KRN, KIT, KTT, KLU, PLQ, NOC, KGP, KOK, KXK, KYA, KGS, KSC, OSZ, KSZ, KZI, KRK, KRF, KRR, KJA, KRS, KID, KSU, KWG, KUO, URE, URS, KAO, KYZ, LCG, LRH, LKL, SUF, LMP, LDV, LAI, ACE, LPP, LCA, LPA, LEH, LPY, LEJ, LKN, LEN, LRS, LDG, LGG, LPX, LIL, LXS, LIG, LPI, LNZ, LPK, LIS, LJU, LCJ, RJL, LYR, LRT, LDE, LBC, LUG, VSG, LLA, LUX, LWO, LYC, LYS, MST, FNC, MAD, GDX, MQF, MCX, AGP, MLX, MMA, MMX, MLA, MHG, MQM, MHQ, MPW, MRS, MEH, MLN, FMM, MAH, MZH, ETZ, JMK, MIL, MXP, LIN, BGY, PMF, MLO, MRV, MSQ, MHP, MJZ, MQN, MOL, MPL, MXX, MXN, MOW, SVO, DME, VKO, BKA, MJF, OMO, FMO, MUC, MJV, MMK, MSR, MJT, NBC, NYM, OSY, NTE, NAP, NVK, NNM, JNX, NER, EUM, NAV, NCE, NLV, INI, NJC, GOJ, NOJ, NSK, NRK, NOZ, OVB, NUX, XWZ, NUE, ODS, OHD, OHO, OLB, OMS, OMR, ORB, REN, OLA, OER, OSW, HOV, OSI, OSK, OSL, TRF, OSD, OSR, OUL, PAD, PJA, PMO, PMI, PNA, PNL, PFO, PED, PAR, CDG, ORY, BVA, LBG, EPU, PAS, GPA, PUF, PEX, PEZ, PGX, PEE, PGF, PEG, PSR, PKC, PES, PWE, PIX, PSA, TGD, PIS, PYJ, PDL, TAT, POR, PXO, OPO, POZ, PRG, PVK, PRN, PUY, UIP, REG, RNS, REK, KEF, RKV, RHO, RIX, RJK, RMI, RDZ, RVK, ROM, FCO, CIA, RNB, RRS, RET, RLG, ROV, RTM, URO, RVN, RYG, RZE, SCN, SOB, SAW, LED, LTT, XYX, SLM, SLY, SZG, KUF, SMI, SZF, TQR, GMZ, EAS, SDN, SSJ, SPC, SMA, SDR, SCQ, SJZ, SJJ, RTW, SUJ, SVL, SJY, SVQ, SNN, SBZ, SIP, SIC, JSH, VAS, SFT, JSI, SKE, SKU, SKP, KVB, SXL, SOO, SOF, SOG, CSH, SGD, SOJ, SPU, SNR, SVG, STW, STO, ARN, NYO, BMA, VST, SKN, SRP, SQO, SXB, STR, SCV, SDL, SGC, EVG, SVJ, SCW, JSY, SZZ, TLL, TBW, TMP, TFS, TCI, TFN, TER, SKG, JTR, THO, IKS, TSR, TIA, TGM, TIV, TOF, TYF, TLN, TLS, TUF, TZX, TPS, TRS, THN, TOS, TRD, TCE, TRN, TKU, TJM, UFA, UCT, UUD, ULY, UME, URJ, USQ, USK, UDJ, VAA, VDS, VRY, VLC, VLL, VDE, VAN, VAW, VRK, VAR, VXO, VCE, TSF, VRN, VBS, VEY, VIE, VGO, VHM, VNO, VBY, VIT, OGZ, VVO, VOG, VOL, VPN, VKT, VOZ, WAW, WAT, GWT, UWE, WRO, YKS, UUS, ZAD, ZAG, ZTH, OZH, ZAZ, IEG, ILZ, ZRH, ZQW
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chucksterace on March 18, 2015, 02:19:18 PM
Or here:
Europe Airport List (top 150):
ABZ, AER, ALC, AMS, ACE, ATH, GYD, BCN, BRI, BSL, BHD, BFS, BEG, BGO, SXF, TXL, BIO, BLL, BHX, BOO, BLQ, BOD, BTS, BRE, BRS, BRU, BBU, OTP, BUD, CAG, CWL, CTA, CRL, CPH, ORK, DTM, DRS, DUB, DUS, EMA, EDI, EVN, FAO, FLR, FRA, FUE, FNC, GDN, GVA, GRO, GLA, PIK, GOT, GCI, HHN, HAM, HAJ, HEL, HER, IBZ, IOM, JER, KGD, KTW, KBP, CGN, KRK, KRR, LPA, LBA, LEJ, LIS, LPL, LJU, LCY, LGW, LHR, LTN, STN, LUX, LYS, MAD, MAH, AGP, MLA, MAN, MRS, LIN, MXP, BGY, MCM, DME, SVO, VKO, FMO, MUC, MJV, NTE, NAP, NCL, NCE, NUE, OLB, OSL, TRF, PMO, PMI, CDG, ORY, PSA, OPO, PRG, KEF, RHO, RIX, CIA, FCO, ROV, KUF, SPC, SVQ, SNN, SIP, SOF, SOU, LED, SVG, ARN, BMA, SXB, STR, TLL, TFS, TFN, SKG, TSR, TIA, TLS, TOS, TRD, TRN, VLC, VCE, VRN, VIE, VNO, WAW, WRO, ZAG, ZRH

Europe FULL list:
AAL, AES, AAR, ABA, ADA, ADF, AER, AGF, AJI, AJA, AEY, ABC, AXD, AHO, ALC, LEI, ALF, ACH, XXA, AMV, AMS, DYR, AAQ, AOI, ANX, AGH, ANE, ESB, NCY, AYT, ANR, ARW, ARH, AJR, ASF, OVD, JTY, ATH, AUR, XYP, AVN, BCM, BJZ, BAY, BNX, BCN, BDU, BRI, BAX, BSL, BIA, BAL, EGO, BEG, BGO, EGC, BJF, BVG, BER, TXL, SXF, THF, BRN, BZR, BIQ, BIO, BLL, BQS, BOO, BJV, BWK, BLQ, BZO, BOD, BLE, RNN, BOJ, BTS, BTK, BRE, BES, BDS, BVE, BRQ, BNN, BRU, CRL, OTP, BUH, BBU, BUD, YEI, BZG, CFR, CAG, CLY, CKZ, DCM, CTA, CMF, CHQ, CSY, CEK, CEE, CWC, CYX, JKH, KIV, HTA, CKH, CFE, CLJ, CGN, CND, CPH, CFU, ORK, CVU, CRA, CUF, FCN, DLM, DNZ, DNR, DIY, DNK, CFN, DOK, DTM, DRS, DUB, DBV, DUS, EDO, EGS, EIN, EIB, SVX, EZS, EBA, EIE, XWQ, ENF, ECN, ERF, ERC, ERZ, EBJ, AOE, VDB, FAO, FAE, FSC, XYI, FLR, FLW, FRO, FOG, FDE, FRL, FRA, HHN, FDH, FUE, GEV, GWY, GZT, GDN, GVA, GOA, GRO, GIB, GRW, GRX, GRZ, GNB, GRY, GRQ, GRV, GOT, GSE, HFS, HAD, HAM, HFT, HAJ, EVE, XWP, HAA, HTG, HAU, XXU, HDB, HGL, HEL, HMV, HER, HDF, XYC, HOQ, HVG, HOR, HUV, IAS, IBZ, IAA, JIK, INN, IOA, IKT, IFJ, IST, IVL, IFO, ADB, IZM, XRY, JOE, JKG, JYV, KCM, KAJ, KLX, KGD, KLR, JKL, KDL, KLV, FKB, KSD, AOK, KSY, KRP, KSJ, KSF, KZS, KSO, KTW, XXK, KVA, ASR, KZN, EFL, KEJ, KEM, KIR, KHV, HMA, HRK, KHE, KBP, IEV, KKN, KVK, KRN, KIT, KTT, KLU, PLQ, NOC, KGP, KOK, KXK, KYA, KGS, KSC, OSZ, KSZ, KZI, KRK, KRF, KRR, KJA, KRS, KID, KSU, KWG, KUO, URE, URS, KAO, KYZ, LCG, LRH, LKL, SUF, LMP, LDV, LAI, ACE, LPP, LCA, LPA, LEH, LPY, LEJ, LKN, LEN, LRS, LDG, LGG, LPX, LIL, LXS, LIG, LPI, LNZ, LPK, LIS, LJU, LCJ, RJL, LYR, LRT, LDE, LBC, LUG, VSG, LLA, LUX, LWO, LYC, LYS, MST, FNC, MAD, GDX, MQF, MCX, AGP, MLX, MMA, MMX, MLA, MHG, MQM, MHQ, MPW, MRS, MEH, MLN, FMM, MAH, MZH, ETZ, JMK, MIL, MXP, LIN, BGY, PMF, MLO, MRV, MSQ, MHP, MJZ, MQN, MOL, MPL, MXX, MXN, MOW, SVO, DME, VKO, BKA, MJF, OMO, FMO, MUC, MJV, MMK, MSR, MJT, NBC, NYM, OSY, NTE, NAP, NVK, NNM, JNX, NER, EUM, NAV, NCE, NLV, INI, NJC, GOJ, NOJ, NSK, NRK, NOZ, OVB, NUX, XWZ, NUE, ODS, OHD, OHO, OLB, OMS, OMR, ORB, REN, OLA, OER, OSW, HOV, OSI, OSK, OSL, TRF, OSD, OSR, OUL, PAD, PJA, PMO, PMI, PNA, PNL, PFO, PED, PAR, CDG, ORY, BVA, LBG, EPU, PAS, GPA, PUF, PEX, PEZ, PGX, PEE, PGF, PEG, PSR, PKC, PES, PWE, PIX, PSA, TGD, PIS, PYJ, PDL, TAT, POR, PXO, OPO, POZ, PRG, PVK, PRN, PUY, UIP, REG, RNS, REK, KEF, RKV, RHO, RIX, RJK, RMI, RDZ, RVK, ROM, FCO, CIA, RNB, RRS, RET, RLG, ROV, RTM, URO, RVN, RYG, RZE, SCN, SOB, SAW, LED, LTT, XYX, SLM, SLY, SZG, KUF, SMI, SZF, TQR, GMZ, EAS, SDN, SSJ, SPC, SMA, SDR, SCQ, SJZ, SJJ, RTW, SUJ, SVL, SJY, SVQ, SNN, SBZ, SIP, SIC, JSH, VAS, SFT, JSI, SKE, SKU, SKP, KVB, SXL, SOO, SOF, SOG, CSH, SGD, SOJ, SPU, SNR, SVG, STW, STO, ARN, NYO, BMA, VST, SKN, SRP, SQO, SXB, STR, SCV, SDL, SGC, EVG, SVJ, SCW, JSY, SZZ, TLL, TBW, TMP, TFS, TCI, TFN, TER, SKG, JTR, THO, IKS, TSR, TIA, TGM, TIV, TOF, TYF, TLN, TLS, TUF, TZX, TPS, TRS, THN, TOS, TRD, TCE, TRN, TKU, TJM, UFA, UCT, UUD, ULY, UME, URJ, USQ, USK, UDJ, VAA, VDS, VRY, VLC, VLL, VDE, VAN, VAW, VRK, VAR, VXO, VCE, TSF, VRN, VBS, VEY, VIE, VGO, VHM, VNO, VBY, VIT, OGZ, VVO, VOG, VOL, VPN, VKT, VOZ, WAW, WAT, GWT, UWE, WRO, YKS, UUS, ZAD, ZAG, ZTH, OZH, ZAZ, IEG, ILZ, ZRH, ZQW

Why? WHY?

 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: DMYD on March 18, 2015, 02:19:51 PM
In the WIKI
You got to give him credit for posting his first post the right thread!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: gavhaller on March 18, 2015, 02:42:58 PM
where can i find ITA MATRIX codes for EUROPE?

His name makes sense now...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 2088 on March 20, 2015, 02:16:52 AM
Flew using hidden city a few times (4 out of 5 flights) on UA so far this year. On the last flight i was only given 400 miles vs the 2,400 i was supposed to earn and on reported $95 towards revenue req for status. Does this have anything to do with them cracking down on people using hidden city tickets or should i call and have the correct miles and dollars spent credited ? Anyone else have experience with this
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Lou Bob on March 20, 2015, 02:33:24 AM
Flew using hidden city a few times (4 out of 5 flights) on UA so far this year. On the last flight i was only given 400 miles vs the 2,400 i was supposed to earn and on reported $95 towards revenue req for status. Does this have anything to do with them cracking down on people using hidden city tickets or should i call and have the correct miles and dollars spent credited ? Anyone else have experience with this
be happy you saved money by using this trick.
Move on
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Tzafnas Paneach on March 20, 2015, 04:14:32 PM
Does hidden city work for amtrak tickets at all?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on March 20, 2015, 04:15:28 PM
Does hidden city work for amtrak tickets at all?

If you mean ZFV sure. You can get off at EWR without taking the train.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: damaxer91 on March 21, 2015, 10:50:33 PM
Does hidden city work for amtrak tickets at all?
http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?4,3001518
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Tzafnas Paneach on March 22, 2015, 12:32:30 PM
http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?4,3001518
Is there any efficient way of finding these amtrak hidden city prices like there is for air travel?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Thingywingy on April 15, 2015, 12:18:22 AM
It seems ITA changed their page layout. I don't see place to enter my "real" destination. When I click advanced routing codes, the additional fields added is advanced routing code for outbound and return...Am I missing something? In which field should I enter my final destination? Thanks!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: coralsnake on April 15, 2015, 01:07:00 AM
It seems ITA changed their page layout. I don't see place to enter my "real" destination. When I click advanced routing codes, the additional fields added is advanced routing code for outbound and return...Am I missing something? In which field should I enter my final destination? Thanks!
Need to search one way.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Thingywingy on April 15, 2015, 09:46:47 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zalman2bis on May 04, 2015, 03:47:37 PM
Can someone please help me.
I am looking to fly from fll to NYC .
I found a flight to Boston connecting in LGA.
I need to check in baggage. Can I rest assured that I will get my luggage in LGA?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Marco Polo on May 04, 2015, 03:49:03 PM
Can someone please help me.
I am looking to fly from fll to NYC .
I found a flight to Boston connecting in LGA.
I need to check in baggage. Can I rest assured that I will get my luggage in LGA?
You will not get baggage.

Send it by mail,UPS or FedEx.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on May 04, 2015, 03:49:44 PM
Can someone please help me.
I am looking to fly from fll to NYC .
I found a flight to Boston connecting in LGA.
I need to check in baggage. Can I rest assured that I will get my luggage in LGA?
No. Baggage gets checked through usually. Try a long layover, and sell them a story why you need your bag in the connecting city.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PBaruch on May 04, 2015, 03:50:52 PM
Can someone please help me.
I am looking to fly from fll to NYC .
I found a flight to Boston connecting in LGA.
I need to check in baggage. Can I rest assured that I will get my luggage in LGA?

One thing you can do is if multiple people are traveling you can book 1 ticket direct and the rest hidden city.  Check all the luggage with the person traveling direct.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zalman2bis on May 04, 2015, 04:05:25 PM
Thank you all for the quick response.
Very much appreciated.
Its with delta and I get free first bag for all the flyers. What I would save with the hidden city wouldn't compensate paying for the luggage.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PBaruch on May 04, 2015, 04:07:52 PM
Thank you all for the quick response.
Very much appreciated.
Its with delta and I get free first bag for all the flyers. What I would save with the hidden city wouldn't compensate paying for the luggage.
Thanks again.

Another option is to ship luggage (in my experience USPS priority is cheapest) but that probably won't help you here either.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on May 04, 2015, 06:15:32 PM
You will not get baggage.

Send it by mail,UPS or FedEx.
+1
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PPLA on May 08, 2015, 03:28:05 PM
Need Help.

I booked a Hidden City to LAX thanks to Skiplagged.

WAS to LAX {To SAN (Diego)} on UNITED at 545pm

Now they have WAS to LAX {to LAS} at 545pm for $40 cheaper.

What can I do to get United to change my last leg from "SAN" to "LAS" in order to get that price difference. (while staying in LA of course)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Einstein on May 08, 2015, 03:52:15 PM
Need Help.

I booked a Hidden City to LAX thanks to Skiplagged.

WAS to LAX {To SAN (Diego)} on UNITED at 545pm

Now they have WAS to LAX {to LAS} at 545pm for $40 cheaper.

What can I do to get United to change my last leg from "SAN" to "LAS" in order to get that price difference. (while staying in LA of course)
is it within 24 hours?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PPLA on May 08, 2015, 04:18:16 PM
Nope.  :-\

 If it was it would been much easier
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Lou Bob on May 08, 2015, 06:05:55 PM
Nope.  :-\

 If it was it would been much easier
you're out of luck
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Einstein on May 09, 2015, 11:31:30 PM
you're out of luck
+1
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: schneury on May 10, 2015, 04:25:27 PM
looking for NYC to LAX 6/21 return 6/24, when i put in the airport list from the wiki i get this error "QPS Warning. Bad route specification", what does this mean?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on May 10, 2015, 04:32:20 PM

looking for NYC to LAX 6/21 return 6/24, when i put in the airport list from the wiki i get this error "QPS Warning. Bad route specification", what does this mean?
Something is not right. Put up a screenshot of what's entered
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: schneury on May 10, 2015, 04:45:33 PM
screen shots
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on May 10, 2015, 04:52:21 PM

screen shots
Strange, I just tried and had no issues cheapest is 189 with U.S. air btw
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: schneury on May 10, 2015, 04:53:56 PM
Thanks, maybe I'll try a different browser or deleting cookies
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: schneury on May 11, 2015, 09:04:44 AM
Thanks, maybe I'll try a different browser or deleting cookies
used a different browser and it worked, thanks for your help
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on May 11, 2015, 09:07:37 AM
used a different browser and it worked, thanks for your help
My pleasure, Incognito should always be first troubleshooting step, good idea!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: keemster26 on May 14, 2015, 08:48:49 PM
If I'm booking a hidden city ticket on united, is it not smart to  book it w/ my united account? Will I get in any trouble in case they "chaap" what I did?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on May 14, 2015, 09:23:59 PM
If I'm booking a hidden city ticket on united, is it not smart to  book it w/ my united account? Will I get in any trouble in case they "chaap" what I did?
As long as you're not doing it often you should be fine, worst case you say something important came up and you needed to stay where you were...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: keemster26 on May 14, 2015, 09:25:48 PM
As long as you're not doing it often you should be fine, worst case you say something important came up and you needed to stay where you were...
Ok. Thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: HolyNyc on May 15, 2015, 10:12:22 AM
Did anyone experience problems with a Hidden city to Moscow because he didn't have a visa?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on May 15, 2015, 10:15:41 AM

Did anyone experience problems with a Hidden city to Moscow because he didn't have a visa?
What do you want to do?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on May 15, 2015, 10:23:42 AM
What do you want to do?
Obviously hidden city
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on May 15, 2015, 10:24:25 AM

Obviously hidden city
Doih!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on May 15, 2015, 10:24:59 AM
Doih!
?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on May 15, 2015, 10:25:35 AM

?
Some spell it duh
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on May 15, 2015, 04:16:28 PM
As long as you're not doing it often you should be fine, worst case you say something important came up and you needed to stay where you were...
and credit the miles to a partner airline
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on May 15, 2015, 04:16:45 PM
Obviously hidden city
+1
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on May 15, 2015, 04:16:51 PM
Some spell it duh
not some, all
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: keemster26 on May 15, 2015, 04:46:09 PM
and credit the miles to a partner airline
Why not to the same airline?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on May 15, 2015, 04:54:09 PM
Why not to the same airline?
Thats the safer way
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: moeg on June 08, 2015, 10:47:13 AM
Im trying to search TLV - JFK/EWR 8/3 - 8/31, and i cant find anything cheaper than $1600 for one way! Am i doing this right?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Tzafnas Paneach on June 08, 2015, 04:27:13 PM
Im trying to search TLV - JFK/EWR 8/3 - 8/31, and i cant find anything cheaper than $1600 for one way! Am i doing this right?
Prob you are not. What hidden city are you trying to use?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2015, 04:30:23 PM
Does hidden city work for amtrak tickets at all?
I was doing hidden city ticketing on Greyhound as a 13 year old in high school in PIT.
Figured out that I'd save $8 by booking to a farther out station and getting off early.  Never had an issue getting the driver to pull my bag early :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yandmk on June 08, 2015, 06:28:32 PM
Im trying to search TLV - JFK/EWR 8/3 - 8/31, and i cant find anything cheaper than $1600 for one way! Am i doing this right?
You will never find a cheap flight one way direct ex-TLV. Hidden city won't help that. It will only allow you to book in the highest fare class when booking a o/w. TA can sometimes get access to lower fares on o/w's, but I doubt you'll ever find a TA who will be willing to book a hidden city. Hidden cities to TLV are only good for flights originating in the US. There may actually be a hidden city ex-TLV on a round-trip continueing to somewhere in the Middle East/Far East/Europe...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: moeg on June 09, 2015, 11:37:17 PM
Prob you are not. What hidden city are you trying to use?
US Airports
You will never find a cheap flight one way direct ex-TLV. Hidden city won't help that. It will only allow you to book in the highest fare class when booking a o/w. TA can sometimes get access to lower fares on o/w's, but I doubt you'll ever find a TA who will be willing to book a hidden city. Hidden cities to TLV are only good for flights originating in the US. There may actually be a hidden city ex-TLV on a round-trip continueing to somewhere in the Middle East/Far East/Europe...
Im actually going the opposite direction i'm in TLV going to NYC. how do you search RT? I think i tried to search RT but the cheapest i could find was around $3000.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yandmk on June 10, 2015, 07:39:00 AM
US AirportsIm actually going the opposite direction i'm in TLV going to NYC. how do you search RT? I think i tried to search RT but the cheapest i could find was around $3000.

I got that. I wrote ex-TLV (as in originating in TLV)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Tzafnas Paneach on June 10, 2015, 03:41:54 PM
US AirportsIm actually going the opposite direction i'm in TLV going to NYC. how do you search RT? I think i tried to search RT but the cheapest i could find was around $3000.
There is the trick that Dan talks about time to time. Take United and have the destination be Chicago that has a stopover in Newark. It is often lower than a flight to Newark.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: rng on June 10, 2015, 03:42:31 PM
I made a hidden city ticket and returning on same airline 3 days later from the "stopover city" direct with mileage should I be scared of that ticket being cancelled or being flagged in any way?

I have never done hidden city before so thanks to any help with this
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Tzafnas Paneach on June 10, 2015, 03:48:43 PM
I made a hidden city ticket and returning on same airline 3 days later from the "stopover city" direct with mileage should I be scared of that ticket being cancelled or being flagged in any way?

I have never done hidden city before so thanks to any help with this
I have made a return paid ticket from the "stopover city" on the same airline (United) three days later and was fine.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on June 10, 2015, 03:53:28 PM
I made a hidden city ticket and returning on same airline 3 days later from the "stopover city" direct with mileage should I be scared of that ticket being cancelled or being flagged in any way?

I have never done hidden city before so thanks to any help with this
You should be fine.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: rng on June 10, 2015, 03:56:39 PM
I have made a return paid ticket from the "stopover city" on the same airline (United) three days later and was fine.
Thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: moeg on June 11, 2015, 12:59:18 AM
I got that. I wrote ex-TLV (as in originating in TLV)
Oh haha sorry, I missed that.
There is the trick that Dan talks about time to time. Take United and have the destination be Chicago that has a stopover in Newark. It is often lower than a flight to Newark.
Ok I'll try that thanks.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: blue eyes on June 15, 2015, 02:10:56 PM
How does hidden city work from JFK-BRU-DME - can I check bags or will bags automatically cont to Moscow?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on June 15, 2015, 02:30:16 PM
How does hidden city work from JFK-BRU-DME - can I check bags or will bags automatically cont to Moscow?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: blue eyes on June 15, 2015, 02:46:04 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on June 15, 2015, 03:43:50 PM
If you have an overnight layover, or some other convincing reason that you need your bags at your layover, you can convince them to check it to the stopover city. YMMV.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Mushkie10 on June 17, 2015, 12:45:03 PM
So to be clear on this, do I have to be worried about booking a hidden city ticket with mileage? Is it safer I should pay for it? Is there a chnace the airline will "flag" me? 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on June 17, 2015, 01:41:33 PM
No casual user of hidden tickets ever reported being messed up from it. That I know of.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on June 17, 2015, 01:56:20 PM
So to be clear on this, do I have to be worried about booking a hidden city ticket with mileage? Is it safer I should pay for it? Is there a chnace the airline will "flag" me?
Its as safe as a Russian airline. Take that how you please
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chapshnell on June 17, 2015, 04:30:59 PM
So to be clear on this, do I have to be worried about booking a hidden city ticket with mileage? Is it safer I should pay for it? Is there a chnace the airline will "flag" me?

I would never put my mileage # on a HC reservation let alone booking one with mileage. However, I'm sure if you do it once you'll be ok.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Theodorel on June 17, 2015, 04:36:02 PM
If you have an overnight layover, or some other convincing reason that you need your bags at your layover, you can convince them to check it to the stopover city. YMMV.
Will the airline automatically tag my bags to the layover city if I have an overnight stop?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chapshnell on June 17, 2015, 04:38:35 PM
try telling them you have medicine in there & it must come out. best excuse ive heard to date..
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on June 21, 2015, 04:17:26 PM
Trying to book a hidden city, found it on ITA tried to book with Orbitz and Priceline but it's not showing up - showed up on AA but when I selected it I kept getting a message that the itinerary was gone, can I assume PUTPAC with the proper fare construction codes will work with AA or does it need to be with a travel agent specifically? would it work with either of them?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on June 21, 2015, 05:35:05 PM
Trying to book a hidden city, found it on ITA tried to book with Orbitz and Priceline but it's not showing up - showed up on AA but when I selected it I kept getting a message that the itinerary was gone, can I assume PUTPAC with the proper fare construction codes will work with AA or does it need to be with a travel agent specifically? would it work with either of them?
Iirc, the matrix sometimes is not 100% accurate. Shows phantom fares sometimes.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on June 21, 2015, 05:36:40 PM
Iirc, the matrix sometimes is not 100% accurate. Shows phantom fares sometimes.
I was thinking that but the price went up and back down again and it did show up on AA's albeit not all the way till booking
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on July 08, 2015, 08:59:48 PM
Proposal to edit the Wiki and Remove ETR as a UK airport. ETR is the IATA code for a commercial airport in Ecuador, ETR in the UK refers to elmstree airport which isn't commercial
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: YMW on July 13, 2015, 05:52:59 PM
What do you guys think?
I booked the US - ORD-PHL-TLV-PHL-ORD in J, I'm wondering if I walk out in PHL & grab another US/AA flight to YUL, can they decline me boarding because I'm supposed to continue to ORD? should I rather take a AC/UA flight?
Also I did enter my FF #, should I change it? (It's almost 20k miles....)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chapshnell on July 13, 2015, 06:09:12 PM
What do you guys think?
I booked the US - ORD-PHL-TLV-PHL-ORD in J, I'm wondering if I walk out in PHL & grab another US/AA flight to YUL, can they decline me boarding because I'm supposed to continue to ORD? should I rather take a AC/UA flight?
Also I did enter my FF #, should I change it? (It's almost 20k miles....)

you can take whatever flight you want. noone can force you to do anything.
I would open a new FFN #, wait a bit & later merge the accounts.. But only a good few months later
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: LuxJeru on July 16, 2015, 06:57:57 AM
A 11 hours & 50 minute stopover during the day in Beijing. Will I be able to get my luggage??
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ad120 on July 20, 2015, 12:04:50 AM
SAN to YYZ via EWR on UA.
Can I ditch the last leg if I check bags?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chucksterace on July 20, 2015, 12:06:57 AM
SAN to YYZ via EWR on UA.
Can I ditch the last leg if I check bags?

No. Bags will go to YYZ
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yoel on July 21, 2015, 07:35:35 PM
http://roadwarriorvoices.com/2015/07/20/british-airways-vows-to-punish-fliers-traveling-on-hidden-city-tickets/
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ad120 on July 22, 2015, 12:28:59 AM
http://roadwarriorvoices.com/2015/07/20/british-airways-vows-to-punish-fliers-traveling-on-hidden-city-tickets/
Cry me a river...
Now the airlines think they are authorities. Please.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: adam0619 on July 31, 2015, 02:04:26 PM
Has anyone had any experience with AA charging for the remaining balance of a fare that would have been assessed for a direct flight? According to AA's "Conditions of Carriage," they have the right to do just that, see below:

"Where a ticket is invalidated as the result of the passenger's non-compliance with any term or condition of sale, American has the right in its sole discretion to:

1. Cancel any remaining portion of the passenger's itinerary
2. Confiscate unused flight coupons
3. Refuse to board the passenger or check the passenger's luggage
4. Refuse to refund an otherwise refundable ticket
5. Assess the passenger for the reasonable remaining value of the ticket, which shall be no less than the difference between the fare actually paid and the lowest fare applicable to the passenger's actual itinerary"
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on August 09, 2015, 11:10:16 PM
Decent hidden city availability from CLE to NYC lately $95 ish.

One-way: Cleveland to Philadelphia, Tue, Aug 25
► Complete trips► Time bars
PRICE ▼   AIRLINE ▼   DEPART ▼   ARRIVE ▼   DURATION ▼   FROM/TO ▼   STOPS ▼   ADVISORY ▼
$90 Delta 9:24 am 2:59 pm 5h 35m CLE to MIA LGA
$91 Delta 6:32 am 10:31 am 3h 59m CLE to PHL JFK
$91 Delta 5:10 pm 11:26 pm 6h 16m CLE to PHL JFK Long layover
$92 American Airlines Inc. 12:40 pm 5:31 pm 4h 51m CLE to BWI JFK
$92 US Airways 12:40 pm 5:31 pm 4h 51m CLE to BWI JFK
$92 Delta 2:10 pm 8:19 pm 6h 9m CLE to FLL LGA
$94 American Airlines Inc. 7:00 am 11:17 am 4h 17m CLE to BOS LGA
$94 US Airways 7:00 am 11:17 am 4h 17m CLE to BOS LGA
$94 American Airlines Inc. 7:00 am 12:14 pm 5h 14m CLE to BOS LGA Long layover
$94 US Airways 7:00 am 12:14 pm 5h 14m CLE to BOS LGA Long layover
$94 American Airlines Inc. 7:00 am 1:12 pm 6h 12m CLE to BOS LGA Long layover
$94 US Airways 7:00 am 1:12 pm 6h 12m CLE to BOS LGA Long layover
$94 American Airlines Inc. 11:26 am 3:10 pm 3h 44m CLE to BOS LGA
$94 US Airways 11:26 am 3:10 pm 3h 44m CLE to BOS LGA
$94 American Airlines Inc. 11:26 am 4:14 pm 4h 48m CLE to BOS LGA
$94 US Airways 11:26 am 4:14 pm 4h 48m CLE to BOS LGA
$94 American Airlines Inc. 11:26 am 5:21 pm 5h 55m CLE to BOS LGA Long layover
$94 US Airways 11:26 am 5:21 pm 5h 55m CLE to BOS LGA Long layover
$94 American Airlines Inc. 4:40 pm 8:17 pm 3h 37m CLE to BOS LGA
$94 US Airways 4:40 pm 8:17 pm 3h 37m CLE to BOS LGA
$94 American Airlines Inc. 4:40 pm 9:16 pm 4h 36m CLE to BOS LGA
$94 US Airways 4:40 pm 9:16 pm 4h 36m CLE to BOS LGA
$94 American Airlines Inc. 4:40 pm 10:09 pm 5h 29m CLE to BOS LGA Long layover
$94 US Airways 4:40 pm 10:09 pm 5h 29m CLE to BOS LGA Long layover
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Matovu on August 09, 2015, 11:44:25 PM
Lobob wedding ? :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: emak on August 11, 2015, 11:25:34 PM
Copy and pasted the city list to ITA Matrix and not working for me now. It has in the past. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Tzafnas Paneach on August 11, 2015, 11:26:32 PM
Copy and pasted the city list to ITA Matrix and not working for me now. It has in the past. Any ideas?
Use incognito. Or clear your history and cookies.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: emak on August 12, 2015, 12:36:54 AM
Still not
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PraiseCanada on August 25, 2015, 12:07:31 PM
I get "Internal Server Error" whenever I try finding hidden city tickets on ITA Matrix.

Am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on September 20, 2015, 07:22:53 PM
@Dan, or whoever put the wiki together: This is the most comprehensive list of all the airports in the world that i found. I don't even want to know how long it took to put together. Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: keemster26 on September 20, 2015, 07:24:51 PM
@Dan, or whoever put the wiki together: This is the most comprehensive list of all the airports in the world that i found. I don't even want to know how long it took to put together. Thank you so much!
+10000
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on September 20, 2015, 07:31:58 PM
HUH?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on September 20, 2015, 07:33:15 PM
True story?
Just tried.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on September 20, 2015, 07:34:15 PM
Just tried.
I was referring to the tricking side of things..Didnt realize youre only referring to hidden city.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on September 20, 2015, 07:34:31 PM
HUH?
That's the re-edited list. Worked like a charm.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on September 20, 2015, 07:35:28 PM
I was referring to the tricking side of things..Didnt realize youre only referring to hidden city.
You assumed right the first time.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ah on September 20, 2015, 07:39:22 PM
can you guys take this back to the other thread
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on September 20, 2015, 07:39:57 PM
I dont believe ita didnt time out
Didn't even take so long. And on really slow internet.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: insider on October 20, 2015, 02:31:48 PM
I'm about to book skiplagged sf to nyc. the second leg that I'm skipping is Toronto.

what are the chances of them chaging the route?
if they do change, what are my options?

I'm flying with a friend who doesn't have american passport or Canadian visa. Do you think they would they ask for it in SF?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Marco Polo on October 20, 2015, 02:32:39 PM
I'm about to book skiplagged sf to nyc. the second leg that I'm skipping is Toronto.

what are the chances of them chaging the route?
if they do change, what are my options?

I'm flying with a friend who doesn't have american passport or Canadian visa. Do you think they would they ask for it in SF?
SF = San Francisco?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: insider on October 20, 2015, 02:32:59 PM
SF = San Francisco?

yeah
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Marco Polo on October 20, 2015, 02:33:35 PM
yeah
Check DDMS. You may be able to find cheap flights there for your days.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: insider on October 20, 2015, 02:37:26 PM
Check DDMS. You may be able to find cheap flights there for your days.
I checked http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/75851

I'm looking for a flight on Sunday, Nov 29 (thanksgiving weekend).
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 20, 2015, 02:44:05 PM
Any hidden city good for award travel lie-flat business lax-nyc?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: AJK on October 22, 2015, 10:12:33 AM
Any hidden city good for award travel lie-flat business lax-nyc?
The question indicates you're not sure what hidden city means...

(unless you're referring to married segment issues, which is... Unlikely)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 22, 2015, 05:57:50 PM
The question indicates you're not sure what hidden city means...

(unless you're referring to married segment issues, which is... Unlikely)
Ye just realized that lie-flat is only direct. Is there any way to get them without being charged 45K miles?? Availability is non-existent...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on October 22, 2015, 06:00:44 PM
Ye just realized that lie-flat is only direct. Is there any way to get them without being charged 45K miles?? Availability is non-existent...
Do you know what hidden city means?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 22, 2015, 06:01:19 PM
Do you know what hidden city means?
I'm pretty sure...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehoshua on October 22, 2015, 06:05:07 PM
I'm pretty sure...
It seems to me also that apparently you are not.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 22, 2015, 06:06:10 PM
It seems to me also that apparently you are not.
Why can't i book an award ticket nyc-sfo with a stop in lax?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: coralsnake on October 22, 2015, 06:07:40 PM
Is there any way to get them without being charged 45K miles?? Availability is non-existent...
Sure
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehoshua on October 22, 2015, 06:08:04 PM
Why can't i book an award ticket nyc-sfo with a stop in lax?
You can, why would you think otherwise?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lunatic on October 22, 2015, 06:08:04 PM
Why can't i book an award ticket nyc-sfo with a stop in lax?
Why would you want to? What does it help you
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 22, 2015, 06:08:18 PM
Sure
Thanks. How?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: coralsnake on October 22, 2015, 06:08:24 PM
Why can't i book an award ticket nyc-sfo with a stop in lax?
Assuming you're dropping the last leg, where's the benefit?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 22, 2015, 06:08:59 PM
You can, why would you think otherwise?
Isn't this hidden city on an award ticket if there's no availability nyc-lax?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 22, 2015, 06:09:22 PM
Why would you want to? What does it help you
Because there's no availability nyc-lax
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: AJK on October 22, 2015, 06:09:51 PM


Why can't i book an award ticket nyc-sfo with a stop in lax?

You can. But what I think you're asking is if you can book LAX-SFO with a connection in NYC, a la the "Verrazano."
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: coralsnake on October 22, 2015, 06:10:11 PM
Isn't this hidden city on an award ticket if there's no availability nyc-lax?
You still need to take the nyc-lax leg. If no availability there, you won't find it by adding the sfo leg
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lunatic on October 22, 2015, 06:10:30 PM
Because there's no availability nyc-lax
So how do you plan to book via lax,  if no availability
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 22, 2015, 06:10:40 PM
You can. But what I think you're asking is if you can book LAX-SFO with a connection in NYC, a la the "Verrazano."
I'm not that wild...but can you?? ;)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 22, 2015, 06:11:26 PM
So how do you plan to book via lax,  if no availability
They never have that nyc-sfo available without lax being open?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: AJK on October 22, 2015, 06:11:59 PM
Because there's no availability nyc-lax
Ding Ding. This means you don't understand. Hidden city has nothing to do with crating award availability that doesn't exist.*

*except in the very rare married segments realm.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: coralsnake on October 22, 2015, 06:12:34 PM
They never have that nyc-sfo available without lax being open?
You can find nyc-sfo when no nyc-lax. But if no nyc-lax then no nyc-lax-sfo either
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: AJK on October 22, 2015, 06:12:44 PM
They never have that nyc-sfo available without lax being open?
Oiy. They do. One has nothing to do with the other.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 22, 2015, 06:15:06 PM
One has nothing to do with the other.
Only when it's direct nyc-sfo?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehoshua on October 22, 2015, 06:18:40 PM
Only when it's direct nyc-sfo?
No
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 22, 2015, 06:20:55 PM
No
Why am i still lost? If you can book nyc-sfo via lax even when nyc-lax is not available (as has been said above) why is this not hidden city for award tix??
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on October 22, 2015, 06:21:26 PM
Why don't you just tell us what you're trying to book?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehoshua on October 22, 2015, 06:22:04 PM
Why don't you just tell us what you're trying to book?
+1, it'll be a lot less confusing.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 22, 2015, 06:22:54 PM
Why don't you just tell us what you're trying to book?
I'm trying to book lax-nyc for the red-eye Nov.15th in lie-flat business. There is zero availability accross the board. Was wondering how i can find.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on October 22, 2015, 06:23:30 PM
I'm trying to book lax-nyc for the red-eye Nov.15th in lie-flat business. There is zero availability accross the board. Was wondering how i can find.
Which currencies do you have? And lax-nyc or nyc-lax?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 22, 2015, 06:24:45 PM
Which currencies do you have?
UA, AA, DL, SPG
I found AA but for 45K OW
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: AJK on October 22, 2015, 06:32:06 PM
I'm trying to book lax-nyc for the red-eye Nov.15th in lie-flat business. There is zero availability accross the board. Was wondering how i can find.
If there is "zero availability across the board"  hidden city will not help you.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 22, 2015, 06:32:44 PM
If there is "zero availability across the board"  hidden city will not help you.
I meant lax-nyc specifically on all airlines
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehoshua on October 22, 2015, 06:34:02 PM
I meant lax-nyc specifically on all airlines
If no airline has availability, why do you think hidden city will help?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yochiek93 on October 22, 2015, 06:36:34 PM
I'm trying to book lax-nyc for the red-eye Nov.15th in lie-flat business. There is zero availability accross the board. Was wondering how i can find.
I'm still confused, you want lax-nyc but you're asking if there is nyc-lax-sfo?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on October 22, 2015, 06:38:01 PM
I'm still confused, you want lax-nyc but you're asking if there is nyc-lax-sfo?
I gave nyc-sfo via lax as an example...the flight i want is lax-nyc
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yochiek93 on October 22, 2015, 06:39:37 PM
I gave nyc-sfo via lax as an example...the flight i want is lax-nyc
You can still wait and hope availability is opened
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on October 22, 2015, 07:11:36 PM
I gave nyc-sfo via lax as an example...the flight i want is lax-nyc
What has this got to do with hidden city?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehoshua on October 22, 2015, 07:13:43 PM
What has this got to do with hidden city?
I think we're all trying to figure that out.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on October 22, 2015, 07:18:18 PM
I think ajk got it at the beginning, you're probably thinking about married segments
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: coralsnake on October 22, 2015, 07:25:22 PM
I think ajk got it at the beginning, you're probably also thinking confused about married segments
FTFY
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Dan on October 22, 2015, 08:57:45 PM
*except in the very rare married segments realm.
Not rare anymore on DL and UA.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on October 23, 2015, 10:02:21 AM
Just to confirm, if i fly hidden city international- domestic-domestic (ex: lhr-jfk-iah on dl) i can check luggage if I'm getting off in JFK?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on October 23, 2015, 01:48:37 PM
Just to confirm, if i fly hidden city international- domestic-domestic (ex: lhr-jfk-iah on dl) i can check luggage if I'm getting off in JFK?
Yes.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: dvol on November 20, 2015, 11:25:12 AM
IF I book a hidden city but changing airports at my "destination", for example YUL-JFK-LGA-MCO, will I be able to check luggage in just YUL-JFK or do they somehow transfer it between airports officially?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: HolyNyc on November 20, 2015, 11:27:26 AM
IF I book a hidden city but changing airports at my "destination", for example YUL-JFK-LGA-MCO, will I be able to check luggage in just YUL-JFK or do they somehow transfer it between airports officially?
You are good to go
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: dvol on November 20, 2015, 11:34:25 AM
You are good to go

thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Einstein on November 20, 2015, 01:18:50 PM
Just got my best Hidden City Ticket to date!

LAX-NYC-LAX

needed that day....saved around $700 ;D
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehoshua on November 20, 2015, 05:56:55 PM
Just got my best Hidden City Ticket to date!

LAX-NYC-LAX

needed that day....saved around $700 ;D
That sounds like a little bit more than a hidden city ticket, but enjoy!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ADG on November 23, 2015, 12:52:53 PM
Can hidden city be used when flying with a stroller?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on November 23, 2015, 12:54:44 PM
Can hidden city be used when flying with a stroller?
as long as they gatecheck it
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ah on November 23, 2015, 06:58:28 PM
1.Do people sometimes accrue miles for JFK-TLV hidden city (on DL) or is it a definite not?
2.Bad idea to attach a FF# with status (silver) if its a one time thing? 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ADG on November 24, 2015, 07:21:24 PM
as long as they gatecheck it
Do you need to specifically ask them to have it out at the stop over? How would they now to do that?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on November 24, 2015, 08:34:44 PM
Ask them. But it is standard, as everyone needs a stroller at a stopover airport. Check it by the gate.
Will not sound unusual.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: hvaces42 on November 27, 2015, 10:39:36 AM
I'm trying to put together a trip to Israel next year using Aeroplan miles. When i searched their site for my first leg it gave me a connection to VIE via IST . Obviously its much cheaper if i stop in Europe than if I make my final destination TLV or even IST. I think it was pricing J at 45k JFK-IST-VIE vs JFK-IST at 52.5k and JFK-TLV at 82.5k. So the question becomes, can i book JFK-IST-VIE and take my baggage out in IST, continuing on to TLV on a separate itinerary?

I know the award chart is being devalued so its gonna cost me more whichever way i slice it because i want to travel after December 15 of next year which wont show availability until after the deval.   
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: damaxer91 on November 27, 2015, 11:15:06 AM
I'm trying to put together a trip to Israel next year using Aeroplan miles. When i searched their site for my first leg it gave me a connection to VIE via IST . Obviously its much cheaper if i stop in Europe than if I make my final destination TLV or even IST. I think it was pricing J at 45k JFK-IST-VIE vs JFK-IST at 52.5k and JFK-TLV at 82.5k. So the question becomes, can i book JFK-IST-VIE and take my baggage out in IST, continuing on to TLV on a separate itinerary?

I know the award chart is being devalued so its gonna cost me more whichever way i slice it because i want to travel after December 15 of next year which wont show availability until after the deval.   

Not gonna work w luggage
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: hvaces42 on November 27, 2015, 02:42:44 PM
Not gonna work w luggage
Is that a fact or conjecture. Dont i have to go through customs and immigration in IST?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yelped on November 27, 2015, 03:20:12 PM
Not gonna work w luggage
Is that a fact or conjecture. Dont i have to go through customs and immigration in IST?

I went with Turkish a few times To Israel and Switzerland. My luggage never went off the plane (at least, I never took it off and had it with me). Always went straight to the final destination.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: D93 on November 28, 2015, 12:39:58 PM
I'm trying to put together a trip to Israel next year using Aeroplan miles. When i searched their site for my first leg it gave me a connection to VIE via IST . Obviously its much cheaper if i stop in Europe than if I make my final destination TLV or even IST. I think it was pricing J at 45k JFK-IST-VIE vs JFK-IST at 52.5k and JFK-TLV at 82.5k. So the question becomes, can i book JFK-IST-VIE and take my baggage out in IST, continuing on to TLV on a separate itinerary?

I know the award chart is being devalued so its gonna cost me more whichever way i slice it because i want to travel after December 15 of next year which wont show availability until after the deval.

How long is the connection in IST?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: miles lover on December 15, 2015, 03:55:21 AM
If I have a flight from yyz-ewr-pwm (Portland maine) am j gonna get my bags at ewr ? Does Toronto work like a regular international flight ?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on December 15, 2015, 04:52:03 AM
If I have a flight from yyz-ewr-pwm (Portland maine) am j gonna get my bags at ewr ? Does Toronto work like a regular international flight ?
I don't think so.  For your purposes, unfortunately, YYZ - USA doesn't work like a regular international flight.  The customs and immigration for the US is done in Canada.  So when you land, it's like a domestic flight.
At the other Toronto airport YTZ -- Porter Airlines, they don't have this, so when you land it's like international.  But that doesn't help you in this thread.
For more DDF discussion and confusion you can read  this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=56105.msg1347777#msg1347777).


Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: emak on December 15, 2015, 09:14:32 PM
Domestic hidden city, does it matter if I check in online?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 15, 2015, 11:11:57 PM
Domestic hidden city, does it matter if I check in online?
What's the worst that can happen?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on December 15, 2015, 11:15:26 PM
What's the worst that can happen?
Your computer can explode.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chaikel on December 16, 2015, 03:00:23 AM
FYI you must legally be allowed to fly the entire hidden city. The airlines can and do deny people if for example the hidden city is to Russia and you don't have a visa, or if you're going to Canada and don't have a passport with you
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chapshnell on December 30, 2015, 02:20:55 PM
ROC-JFK ~ 13 hour layover ~ NAS

Will they require a passport at ROC airport?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: elig770 on December 31, 2015, 05:29:29 PM
I booked a hidden city flight with my wife for tonight on Delta.  While checking in online, it promoted the following advisory. 
Quote
ADVISORY
YOUR SEAT WILL BE ASSIGNED AT THE GATE.

Your itinerary is confirmed and you will receive a seat assignment at the departure gate for your flight(s) from:   

Los Angeles,CA to Atlanta,GA

Once you have checked in, you will receive a document to clear the airport security checkpoint. You will be notified of your seat assignment by the Gate Information Monitors (if available) or an agent at your departure gate.
My concern is that we'll end up with "Group 5 or 6" boarding and be forced to check our bags... I tried upgrading to Delta Comfort to ensure premium boarding but it's either sold out or blocked out by the airport. 

Does anyone have any recommendations?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on December 31, 2015, 05:32:42 PM
I booked a hidden city flight with my wife for tonight on Delta.  While checking in online, it promoted the following advisory.   My concern is that we'll end up with "Group 5 or 6" boarding and be forced to check our bags... I tried upgrading to Delta Comfort to ensure premium boarding but it's either sold out or blocked out by the airport. 

Does anyone have any recommendations?
There's always the "medicine in the bags"
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: elig770 on December 31, 2015, 05:39:13 PM
There's always the "medicine in the bags"
Thanks!  That's my second to last resort plan before packing in shopping bags...  I'm wondering if there is anyway for force a group number onto my reservation.  Anyone with experience in this station?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chapshnell on December 31, 2015, 05:43:55 PM
Thanks!  That's my second to last resort plan before packing in shopping bags...  I'm wondering if there is anyway for force a group number onto my reservation.  Anyone with experience in this station?

Unless you have status...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yomo on January 01, 2016, 02:53:48 AM
Looking to go on a wednesday afternoon from newark and leave TLV on monday night any of first 3 weeks of February. Any advice?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on January 01, 2016, 02:55:00 AM
Looking to go on a wednesday afternoon from newark and leave TLV on monday night any of first 3 weeks of February. Any advice?
Please don't cross post.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yomo on January 01, 2016, 02:56:31 AM
Please don't cross post.
Either ignore it or respond please. We don't need police
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on January 01, 2016, 02:57:56 AM
Either ignore it or respond please. We don't need police
Seriously?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yomo on January 01, 2016, 02:58:31 AM
Seriously?
Yes. Do you like police?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mawmaw on January 01, 2016, 09:47:19 AM
Either ignore it or respond please. We don't need violators
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=31.msg238#msg238
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Freddie on January 01, 2016, 10:00:30 AM
Yes. Do you like police?
What are you from black lives matter?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Tzafnas Paneach on January 01, 2016, 10:17:11 AM
Yes. Do you like police?
I would wager a guess that most people here are very grateful that we have police to keep law and order.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Police! on January 03, 2016, 03:45:37 PM
Either ignore it or respond please. We don't need police
Yes. Do you like police?
Yes! We do need police! Otherwise this forum will look like ... Impossible to find what you're looking for. We don't want this forum to be messy!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitzyul on January 06, 2016, 09:50:59 AM
I have seen some weird hidden city but never this combo:
NYC-CHi= $240
EWR-LGA with a stop in CHI =$200
I thought they auto block tickets from NYC-NYC different airports....

Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on January 06, 2016, 09:56:29 AM
I have seen some weird hidden city but never this combo:
NYC-CHi= $240
EWR-LGA with a stop in CHI =$200
I thought they auto block tickets from NYC-NYC different airports....
Bookable anywhere?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: travel agent on January 06, 2016, 12:34:34 PM
I did once EWR - IAH - BOS
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: leaf on January 08, 2016, 01:03:14 AM
Not really sure where to post this. Hidden city question, but specific to Amman, Jordan & RJ.
If I book a hidden city ticket from TLV-AMM-??? on RJ, what is the procedure like in AMM? Any way they will make problems? And if I check in luggage but the final leg (which I will not use) is 12 hours later, will they give me my bags first? Do all bags have to clear customs first anyway? (What if the connection was shorter)?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: D93 on January 08, 2016, 03:10:09 AM
Not really sure where to post this. Hidden city question, but specific to Amman, Jordan & RJ.
If I book a hidden city ticket from TLV-AMM-??? on RJ, what is the procedure like in AMM? Any way they will make problems? And if I check in luggage but the final leg (which I will not use) is 12 hours later, will they give me my bags first? Do all bags have to clear customs first anyway? (What if the connection was shorter)?

No need to clear customs in AMM on a connection.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on January 08, 2016, 03:11:19 AM
Not really sure where to post this. Hidden city question, but specific to Amman, Jordan & RJ.
If I book a hidden city ticket from TLV-AMM-??? on RJ, what is the procedure like in AMM? Any way they will make problems? And if I check in luggage but the final leg (which I will not use) is 12 hours later, will they give me my bags first? Do all bags have to clear customs first anyway? (What if the connection was shorter)?
Found a good hidden city on that route?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: D93 on January 08, 2016, 05:56:40 AM
Found a good hidden city on that route?

+1

Please share :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: leaf on January 08, 2016, 09:49:40 AM
Decent.  $214 to TLV-AMM-KBP.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chapshnell on January 08, 2016, 10:16:18 AM
Decent.  $214 to TLV-AMM-KBP.

The KBP saved $100-$110 on average for the few searches I did
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: leaf on January 08, 2016, 11:32:08 AM
I have found savings up to $157 (ticket at $149 versus $306). But I really want to know what happens at AMM and especially with luggage.  Anybody have experience there with Hidden City or at least what usually happens with luggage.  Does everyone need to clear customs? What if it's just a 2 hour stopover?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: D93 on January 09, 2016, 02:05:54 PM
I have found savings up to $157 (ticket at $149 versus $306). But I really want to know what happens at AMM and especially with luggage.  Anybody have experience there with Hidden City or at least what usually happens with luggage.  Does everyone need to clear customs? What if it's just a 2 hour stopover?
No need to clear customs in AMM on a connection.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Matovu on January 09, 2016, 04:01:25 PM
I have found savings up to $157 (ticket at $149 versus $306). But I really want to know what happens at AMM and especially with luggage.  Anybody have experience there with Hidden City or at least what usually happens with luggage.  Does everyone need to clear customs? What if it's just a 2 hour stopover?
Usually when you are in AMM from TLV you are transitting somewhere.
What will you tell them when they go get your baggage for you ? If that is the case ?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: leaf on January 10, 2016, 12:08:13 AM

What if it's an overnight connection? Don't they give you your luggage then in AMM? Don't they put you up in a hotel as well (with some special non-visa status)?
Usually when you are in AMM from TLV you are transitting somewhere.
What will you tell them when they go get your baggage for you ? If that is the case ?
Obviously if the bags go straight through it won't work.  Intention was never to ask for bags.  I simply want to know what usually happens. 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eliraps on January 11, 2016, 01:42:51 AM
Anyone know?
TLV-LHR-JFK, first leg Elal, second leg Virgin Atlantic.
Short stop.
Anyway to get bags out in London?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: D93 on January 11, 2016, 02:21:13 AM
Anyone know?
TLV-LHR-JFK, first leg Elal, second leg Virgin Atlantic.
Short stop.
Anyway to get bags out in London?

How long is the stop?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eliraps on January 11, 2016, 03:54:10 AM
How long is the stop?
2 hours
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Hatastah on January 23, 2016, 05:17:33 PM
Just double checking - SYD-LAX-YVR on AA... I'll claim my bags in LAX and can walk off there?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yochiek93 on January 23, 2016, 06:48:40 PM
Just double checking - SYD-LAX-YVR on AA... I'll claim my bags in LAX and can walk off there?
Yes
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Hatastah on January 24, 2016, 06:50:27 AM

Yes
Thanks. Is it risky to put my AAdvantage number in? I have status, and want the benefits
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Hatastah on January 24, 2016, 03:46:55 PM

Yes
That's even though the connecting flight is to Canada?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yochiek93 on January 24, 2016, 03:48:34 PM
That's even though the connecting flight is to Canada?
Yes
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on January 24, 2016, 04:04:24 PM
Looking to go on a wednesday afternoon from newark and leave TLV on monday night any of first 3 weeks of February. Any advice?
Try BOS or WAS as O/D
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitzyul on January 30, 2016, 11:00:43 PM
Hidden city from LAX-JFK with San Juan Being the final destination will that be a problem as its international, or will customs be at the JFK-SJU leg and not the Lax part?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ad120 on January 31, 2016, 01:35:49 AM
Hidden city from LAX-JFK with San Juan Being the final destination will that be a problem as its international, or will customs be at the JFK-SJU leg and not the Lax part?
PR is is an US territory. No customs.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: srf60 on February 01, 2016, 12:23:47 PM
Any good hidden city, NYC- MIA/FLL?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 01, 2016, 12:28:46 PM
Any good hidden city, NYC- MIA/FLL?
I try it every once in a while, and never found anything significant.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: FlyFirst on February 01, 2016, 12:32:25 PM
Any good hidden city, NYC- MIA/FLL?
Check out Nyc-Mia-Nas on AA
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on February 01, 2016, 12:36:12 PM
Any good hidden city, NYC- MIA/FLL?

It's PBI - LGA - PIT (Delta)
And JFK - MIA - JAX (AA)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: rileywiles23 on February 01, 2016, 02:38:41 PM
Can I book an AA hidden city, when paying with Citi TY  points, to bring down the amount of points required ?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 01, 2016, 07:34:36 PM
Can I book an AA hidden city, when paying with Citi TY  points, to bring down the amount of points required ?
Why not?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 01, 2016, 07:39:33 PM
Hidden city from LAX-JFK with San Juan Being the final destination will that be a problem as its international, or will customs be at the JFK-SJU leg and not the Lax part?
No customs when departing the US
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bermo on February 01, 2016, 07:49:32 PM
No customs when departing the US
Make sure to take your passport along
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ad120 on February 02, 2016, 12:06:08 AM
Make sure to take your passport along
Superflous
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Alexsei on February 03, 2016, 10:51:05 AM
Waiting for ITA to allow entering a temperature in the destination field.............
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on February 10, 2016, 12:17:41 PM
I know Dan doesn't hold that much of Skiplagged, and recommends ITA, but for a fast and easy search like this, which can be done on a smartphone, I find skiplagged useful.

Booked NYC-MIA-JAX, FLL-NYC-PIT, and others on AA, DL and UA after finding them using skiplagged.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on February 10, 2016, 12:50:35 PM


I know Dan doesn't hold that much of Skiplagged, and recommends ITA, but for a fast and easy search like this, which can be done on a smartphone, I find skiplagged useful.

Booked NYC-MIA-JAX, FLL-NYC-PIT, and others on AA, DL and UA after finding them using skiplagged.

Ita is just as fast
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: abc123 on February 10, 2016, 02:50:59 PM
Doing hidden city from NYC-IAD-YYZ getting off at IAD.  Do I need a passport or wil I be asked for a passport?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 10, 2016, 02:54:30 PM
Doing hidden city from NYC-IAD-YYZ getting off at IAD.  Do I need a passport or wil I be asked for a passport?
Make sure to take your passport along
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on February 10, 2016, 03:05:04 PM

Ita is just as fast
On a smartphone?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ad120 on February 15, 2016, 01:20:43 AM
Doing hidden city from NYC-IAD-YYZ getting off at IAD.  Do I need a passport or wil I be asked for a passport?
I am considering EWR>MIA>NAS and skipping NAS. Are there any complications with this?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: beeweegee on February 15, 2016, 01:23:02 AM
I am considering EWR>MIA>NAS and skipping NAS. Are there any complications with this?
With no bags? No.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Adam101 on February 15, 2016, 01:23:38 AM
I am considering EWR>MIA>NAS and skipping NAS. Are there any complications with this?
Yes. Skipping NAS is a complication in itself.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: beeweegee on February 15, 2016, 01:24:45 AM
With no bags? No.
But do bring your passport.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ad120 on February 15, 2016, 01:25:24 AM
Thanks all!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: FlyFirst on February 15, 2016, 06:10:02 PM
With no bags? No.
I am considering EWR>MIA>NAS and skipping NAS. Are there any complications with this?

Iv'e done it even with checked bags. I made the MIA-NAS flight should be the next day, so you need to take your luggages either way

But do bring your passport.
Bring it just to be on the safe side, but they not asking for it, especially when the NAS flight is the next day
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: skinfarrock on February 22, 2016, 10:51:33 AM
if i book mel>lax>hnl will my bags come out in lax?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmm740 on February 22, 2016, 10:54:18 AM
if i book mel>lax>hnl will my bags come out in lax?
Yes
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ADG on February 22, 2016, 11:41:50 AM
if i book mel>lax>hnl will my bags come out in lax?

You booked that as a hidden city!?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: stbaum on March 03, 2016, 03:46:34 PM
i'm new to the hidden city game. is it normal for a flight to be lga>mia>ewr? why would they do that?? am i missing something?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Chapshnell on March 03, 2016, 03:55:07 PM
i'm new to the hidden city game. is it normal for a flight to be lga>mia>ewr? why would they do that?? am i missing something?

doesnt always have to make sense :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on March 03, 2016, 04:07:25 PM
i'm new to the hidden city game. is it normal for a flight to be lga>mia>ewr? why would they do that?? am i missing something?
What date is that for? Price?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: stbaum on March 03, 2016, 04:08:51 PM
What date is that for? Price?

$171 this shabbos and sunday
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on March 03, 2016, 04:34:41 PM
i'm new to the hidden city game. is it normal for a flight to be lga>mia>ewr? why would they do that?? am i missing something?
Just because its on the matrix, it may not be available on an OTA.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: HarryPotterFan on March 11, 2016, 04:39:32 PM
Looking to book LAX-ORD-PHX (Spirit Airlines flight 730 connecting on 167) on 4/4 for $127 as it displays on Skiplagged. Unfortunately unable to get the flighst to price correctly on Spirit's website. Priceline displays the quoted $127 price with multi-city but I can't complete checkout. Same with Cheapoair & Justfly. It just gives me an error message following entering my credit card.

Is it the general consensus that if one OTA can't book, none of them will be able too? Just wondering if I should waste my time trying to find an OTA that maybe will let it go through or do they all use the same back-end processing?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on March 15, 2016, 06:01:16 PM
A friend booked hidden city - lax-phl to canada(halifax) guy is nervous they will ask him for passport in LAX..has anyone done this?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bermo on March 15, 2016, 06:37:11 PM
A friend booked hidden city - lax-phl to canada(halifax) guy is nervous they will ask him for passport in LAX..has anyone done this?
They will ask for the passport...
What airline is it?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on March 15, 2016, 06:58:12 PM
They will ask for the passport...
What airline is it?
AA
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bermo on March 15, 2016, 06:59:52 PM
AA
He doesn't have a passport?
It's a 90% chance they won't let him on the plane even if he says his passport was stuck in philly
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on March 15, 2016, 07:04:39 PM
He doesn't have a passport?
It's a 90% chance they won't let him on the plane even if he says his passport was stuck in philly
Thanks.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: MosheD on March 16, 2016, 11:59:24 AM
Recently noticing that I get much more accurate result when browsing incognito....
Why is this?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on March 16, 2016, 12:25:24 PM
Recently noticing that I get much more accurate result when browsing incognito....
Why is this?
Results meaning more things show up on the Matrix?
or better luck booking with an OTA?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: MosheD on March 16, 2016, 12:29:58 PM
Results meaning more things show up on the Matrix?
or better luck booking with an OTA?
Meaning I find a whole slew of sweet fares but they are all phantom.
Then in incognito the phantom fares are no longer there
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on March 16, 2016, 03:11:12 PM

Meaning I find a whole slew of sweet fares but they are all phantom.
Then in incognito the phantom fares are no longer there
Are you searching them with ita? Make sure that "only show flights and prices with available seats" is checked...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yelped on March 30, 2016, 12:04:50 PM
Quick question. To book an international Hidden city,  I should book two one ways? Also,  is there a way to take luggage? Coming into the US I know you can, the question is on the way out. It's a bit time sensitive as I need a flight out tonight.

Thanks!

ETA;: scratch that. Travel agent found direct for $850 while cheapest it was online anywhere was over $2,000. Anyone know how's that?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: burryhood on March 30, 2016, 01:15:48 PM
Any thing I should know before I book a HC ticket from Newcastle > LHR > dublin
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on March 30, 2016, 01:46:41 PM
Any thing I should know before I book a HC ticket from Newcastle > LHR > dublin
Don't check in bags
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: rileywiles23 on April 05, 2016, 10:39:25 PM
Anything that I can use to drop the cost of NYC-YUL ?
Tickets are very expensive for this Sunday.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: emak on April 05, 2016, 10:41:53 PM
Anything that I can use to drop the cost of NYC-YUL ?
BA points?  :P
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: rileywiles23 on April 05, 2016, 10:42:16 PM
BA points?
No availability.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on April 06, 2016, 12:08:49 AM
BA points?  :P
I've done NYC-YTZ or YYZ connecting at YUL
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on April 06, 2016, 12:24:16 AM
Anything that I can use to drop the cost of NYC-YUL ?
Tickets are very expensive for this Sunday.
Is PHL an option?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: rileywiles23 on April 06, 2016, 09:04:44 AM
Is PHL an option?
No. Thanks for the suggestion.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: VacationLover on April 06, 2016, 12:44:25 PM
http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2016-04-06/fliers-beware-new-airfare-rule-could-lead-to-costly-mistake
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Moshe123 on April 06, 2016, 12:53:44 PM
Those SOB's
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on April 06, 2016, 01:10:35 PM
http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2016-04-06/fliers-beware-new-airfare-rule-could-lead-to-costly-mistake
Got worried for a minute. This has nothing to do with Hidden City.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on April 06, 2016, 01:13:54 PM
http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2016-04-06/fliers-beware-new-airfare-rule-could-lead-to-costly-mistake
This is exactly the opposite of hidden city. Hidden city is when it's cheaper to book 2 flights on one ticket than one individual flight. This is when it's more expensive to book 2 flights on one ticket than 2 individual flights.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ad120 on April 07, 2016, 03:46:53 AM
I found a different city pair to be $8 cheaper than what I originally booked. The new pair would still put me on the same first leg as my original flight. Should I cancel and rebook or are such practices frowned upon by the community?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on April 07, 2016, 04:21:26 AM
I found a different city pair to be $8 cheaper than what I originally booked. The new pair would still put me on the same first leg as my original flight. Should I cancel and rebook or are such practices frowned upon by the community?
No issue with cancelling and rebooking.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 07, 2016, 07:48:35 AM
First rebook then cancel so you don't risk losing the availability
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: tov hashem on April 07, 2016, 04:21:41 PM
any tricks from nyc to the smoky mountains national park in N C which the airports are clt tys or asheville? TIA
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on April 07, 2016, 05:29:58 PM
any tricks from nyc to the smoky mountains national park in N C which the airports are clt tys or asheville? TIA
Hidden city to CLT
Avios or AA will be 7.5k to CLT, GSO etc.
UA will be 10k to AVL
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: tov hashem on April 07, 2016, 06:59:20 PM
Hidden city to CLT
Avios or AA will be 7.5k to CLT, GSO etc.
UA will be 10k to AVL
thats right   But I need it for the upcoming Sunday and no availability on ba. and united adds $80 each way
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: GAM Z. on April 08, 2016, 12:18:21 AM
thats right   But I need it for the upcoming Sunday and no availability on ba. and united adds $80 each way
Does the workaround on United still work? If it dosn't, you can book it as a roundtrip and only be charged $75 once.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: emak on April 08, 2016, 12:05:26 PM
Is it risky to do hidden city on award tickets with Delta? Wouldn't have more than a few thousand points to lose anyways.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on April 08, 2016, 12:09:34 PM
Just dont attach your delta FF #.

How many tickets/year are you talking about?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: emak on April 08, 2016, 12:19:06 PM
Just dont attach your delta FF #.
How can I not attach? It's from my FF# account using points. First time doing
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on April 08, 2016, 12:22:40 PM
So with points the HC comes out cheaper?

Either way, if you just do it a few times, they wont ban you. Hey, people miss flights all the time.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: emak on April 08, 2016, 12:25:55 PM
So with points the HC comes out cheaper?
SLC-JFK: 12.5k
SLC-JFK-YUL: 9.5k
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on April 08, 2016, 12:48:36 PM
How can I not attach? It's from my FF# account using points. First time doing
When booking, they ask "are you booking". Select No, then put in your info.

Or just clear the FF# box when making the reservation.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ad120 on April 10, 2016, 11:29:09 AM
I've never done this before.
I've got a wheelie & backpack.
When I checked in for tomorrow's flight they gave mee zone 5 boarding. If I add my ffn to the reservation I will get priority boarding.
Considering this is the first time, 6would it be that bad to add my ffn? I don't want to risk having to gate check.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Centro on April 10, 2016, 11:35:14 AM
I've never done this before.
I've got a wheelie & backpack.
When I checked in for tomorrow's flight they gave mee zone 5 boarding. If I add my ffn to the reservation I will get priority boarding.
Considering this is the first time, 6would it be that bad to add my ffn? I don't want to risk having to gate check.




Either way, if you just do it a few times, they wont ban you. Hey, people miss flights all the time.

Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: cohen220 on April 11, 2016, 12:27:30 AM
I have a flight scheduled from LAX-PHL-ISP. The layover in PHL is 2 hrs 33 min... I would like to get off in PHL. However I have a suitcase to check in. Can I tell the agent some excuse that I need my suitcase in PHL for the layover? Or they won't buy it?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ad120 on April 11, 2016, 12:35:15 AM
I have a flight scheduled from LAX-PHL-ISP. The layover in PHL is 2 hrs 33 min... I would like to get off in PHL. However I have a suitcase to check in. Can I tell the agent some excuse that I need my suitcase in PHL for the layover? Or they won't buy it?
no chance
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: cohen220 on April 11, 2016, 12:51:54 AM
So what are my options? UPS?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Abet rich on April 11, 2016, 10:41:59 AM
I have a flight scheduled from LAX-PHL-ISP. The layover in PHL is 2 hrs 33 min... I would like to get off in PHL. However I have a suitcase to check in. Can I tell the agent some excuse that I need my suitcase in PHL for the layover? Or they won't buy it?
Tgeyre no gonna pull the suitcase for you. It will automatically be transferred.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: evanstall on May 02, 2016, 03:39:49 PM
My friend just received this email from United for booking hidden city:

It has come to United Airlines’ attention that you have violated the “Prohibited Practices” outlined in Rule 6(J) of United’s Contract of Carriage.
 
On April 26, 2016, United identified an instance where you and two children engaged in “Point Beyond Ticketing,” which is the unauthorized purchase of a ticket to a destination more distant than your actual destination.  The last segment of the ticket was not used from Cleveland to Milwaukee.  By including the additional segment, you were able to purchase your ticket at a lower fare.
 
Such conduct constitutes, among other things, fraud and a violation of Rule 6(J) of United’s Contract of Carriage, available for review via united.com.  Accordingly, United demands that you cease and desist this unauthorized practice immediately.
 
If you  continue to book and/or have tickets issued  in this manor, United reserves the right to take further action, including closing your MileagePlus account, filing suit against you to collect the amount owed and/or refusing to transport you on future flights in accordance with Rule 21 of the Contact of Carriage.
 
We sincerely hope no further action will be necessary.
 
Susan Weiler
Corporate Security
United Airlines
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on May 02, 2016, 04:15:58 PM

If you  continue to book and/or have tickets issued  in this manor, United reserves the right to take further action,

Whenever i do this, i keep far away from the manor!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: refill on May 02, 2016, 04:34:53 PM
Whenever i do this, i keep far away from the manor!

lol I noticed that too. It's interesting though since the misspelling indicates that it's not a canned response. I wonder if he did anything to become noticed?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on May 02, 2016, 10:04:15 PM
Probably strange for a group of three to miss the second leg.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yochiek93 on May 02, 2016, 10:15:11 PM


Isn't there a warning when booking these not to use your FFN
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yakov116 on May 02, 2016, 11:09:36 PM
Isn't there a warning when booking these not to use your FFN
+1
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on May 02, 2016, 11:30:47 PM
Probably strange for a group of three to miss the second leg.
Maybe they were a particularly noticeable group and were 'missed' by the flight crew. 
Perhaps they had a problem that became a fuss, or they were 3 guys in streimels or plastic bags, or their baby cried the whole flight or was so charming the crew remembered him ....
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eliraps on May 05, 2016, 08:23:04 PM
Trying to look for a hidden city from TLV to CLT.

What do i put in the advanced code box that would show results with 2 stops, the 2nd one being CLT?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on May 05, 2016, 08:37:45 PM
Trying to look for a hidden city from TLV to CLT.

What do i put in the advanced code box that would show results with 2 stops, the 2nd one being CLT?

Try to do it as two tickets. TLV-IAD, IAD to other destination (AA is likely to connect in CLT) though if it ends up as two separate tickets you might want to make sure you get trip insurance to cover for missed connections.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eliraps on May 06, 2016, 01:44:48 AM
Try to do it as two tickets. TLV-IAD, IAD to other destination (AA is likely to connect in CLT) though if it ends up as two separate tickets you might want to make sure you get trip insurance to cover for missed connections.
Thanks. No such luck though.
Anyone else have any good tips?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: flyingace on May 06, 2016, 09:11:29 AM
What would happen to the luggage that was unexpectedly checked if someone "missed" the connection on a hidden city ticket?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on May 06, 2016, 11:09:31 AM
What would happen to the luggage that was unexpectedly checked if someone "missed" the connection on a hidden city ticket?
They reticket you to your 'final' destination and you pick it up then.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on May 06, 2016, 01:13:15 PM
They reticket you to your 'final' destination and you pick it up then.

I've done long layover hidden city tickets (or maybe it's just an open jaw - LGA-DCA-YYZ), I haven't checked bags, but wouldn't it be legitimate to say that I need my bags at the connection point?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on May 06, 2016, 01:17:41 PM
YMMV, dont rely on it.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on May 06, 2016, 01:19:36 PM
YMMV, dont rely on it.

Anyone with actual experience? How would the airline differentiate Hidden City from Open Jaw?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: flyingace on May 06, 2016, 01:21:12 PM
This just happened this morning...ended up taking the second leg from PHL to EWR. FA at the plane said roll on was too big and checked it before he could even try to take stuff out and collapse it... At least it wasn't some random connection!!!!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on May 06, 2016, 01:28:15 PM
This just happened this morning...ended up taking the second leg from PHL to EWR. FA at the plane said roll on was too big and checked it before he could even try to take stuff out and collapse it... At least it wasn't some random connection!!!!

How long was connection at PHL? I am also assuming this was a Gate Check, don't you have a little more flexibility there? After all it is a "carry-on" which you can legitimately need at your connection point.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: flyingace on May 06, 2016, 01:35:31 PM
Connection was 1.5 hours. Gate agent could/would not let him get it at PHL.  Someone offered to take some of his hand stuff, but agent wouldn't let him keep it after she ticketed it.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on May 15, 2016, 09:51:19 PM
is it ok if I am doing a hidden city for the first time to put my ff# to get credit for the mikes? Will I even get credit if I don't fly the full flight?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yakov116 on May 15, 2016, 09:58:04 PM
is it ok if I am doing a hidden city for the first time to put my ff# to get credit for the mikes? Will I even get credit if I don't fly the full flight?
Big no no they can ban you

Better forget the miles and just be happy with your ticket
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on May 15, 2016, 10:00:02 PM
is it ok if I am doing a hidden city for the first time to put my ff# to get credit for the mikes? Will I even get credit if I don't fly the full flight?

Which airline?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on May 15, 2016, 10:11:49 PM
Which airline?
delta
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on May 15, 2016, 10:12:48 PM
Big no no they can ban you

Better forget the miles and just be happy with your ticket
even only once? Don't they give a warning first? Let's say I proactively call them up and tell them I missed the flight. Would that help?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yakov116 on May 15, 2016, 10:20:04 PM
even only once? Don't they give a warning first? Let's say I proactively call them up and tell them I missed the flight. Would that help?
Don't play around
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on May 15, 2016, 10:22:50 PM
Don't play around
thanks I appreciate the advice!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on May 16, 2016, 07:16:48 AM
delta
With Delta, you can make a new FF account to earn the miles. Then, if everything is ok (no warnings or bans) you can merge the accounts (http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/skymiles/manage-my-account/merge-duplicate-accounts.html) to transfer the points and stuff to your primary account.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on May 16, 2016, 07:56:19 AM
delta

Depending on the booking class you would probably do better crediting to FlyingBlue, Alitalia, or possibly others.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidd75 on May 17, 2016, 05:19:50 PM
appears NYC-BUF OR PHL-BUF routes do not benefit much with hidden city ticketing?  can anybody confirm
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on May 17, 2016, 05:22:33 PM
appears NYC-BUF OR PHL-BUF routes do not benefit much with hidden city ticketing?  can anybody confirm
I did not check, but generally the benefit is maximized when the airport that you are trying to go to is a hub.
So in the other direction, you will likely find deals.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: VacationLover on May 18, 2016, 04:10:41 PM
Lots of good one ways to Europe this summer when using hidden city and ending in MXP

Including ZRH and BRU and many more for under $340

Also direct to MXP is $325
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: MosheD on May 18, 2016, 04:12:14 PM
Lots of good one ways to Europe this summer when using hidden city and ending in MXP

Including ZRH and BRU and many more for under $340

Also direct to MXP is $325

Which airline?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: VacationLover on May 18, 2016, 04:19:23 PM
Most airlines

https://www.kayak.com/flights/NYC-MXP/2016-07-24
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on May 19, 2016, 11:36:48 AM
Don't play around
No one ever had issues with DL by doing HC only once
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on May 19, 2016, 01:14:16 PM
No one ever had issues with DL by doing HC only once
+2  :P
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on May 19, 2016, 03:29:06 PM
No one ever had issues with DL by doing HC only once

AA is the most notorious to crack down on HC, and I think even they might let a one time occurrence pass by.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: curly on May 19, 2016, 04:06:00 PM
Just booked Hidden City with United.
Aside from not giving mileage accounts and not checking in any luggage, is there anything to know before going?
Thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shmebeble on May 19, 2016, 04:07:32 PM
Just booked Hidden City with United.
Aside from not giving mileage accounts and not checking in any luggage, is there anything to know before going?
Thanks
Whats the route?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: stbaum on May 19, 2016, 04:21:57 PM
Just booked Hidden City with United.
Aside from not giving mileage accounts and not checking in any luggage, is there anything to know before going?
Thanks

if the last stop is outside of the US then don't forget your passport. even if you're not flying the last leg, you still need it

just check out the wiki
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on May 19, 2016, 04:22:41 PM
Just booked Hidden City with United.
Aside from not giving mileage accounts and not checking in any luggage, is there anything to know before going?
Thanks
You need to know your route. So in case you see a live person when checking in, you wont be suprised when they say," So enjoy your flight to Memphis today!"
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: oiseli48 on May 20, 2016, 04:38:41 AM
Just booked Fll-jfk-pit for $190 instead of $350
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: countrygirl on May 20, 2016, 05:46:47 AM
I made a reservation on AA with a hidden city ticketing -the fare difference was over $100 but got scared after reading some of the comments here and other website so I canceled the ticket
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on May 20, 2016, 05:53:50 AM
I made a reservation on AA with a hidden city ticketing -the fare difference was over $100 but got scared after reading some of the comments here and other website so I canceled the ticket
No real reason to get very nervous.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on May 20, 2016, 06:05:49 AM
No real reason to get very nervous.
+1
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on May 23, 2016, 04:06:41 PM
I found a flight on ITA and on orbitz and now going to united to book, and its not pulling it up?? Anyone have experience with this?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on May 23, 2016, 04:08:18 PM
why not book on orbitz?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on May 23, 2016, 04:09:57 PM
why not book on orbitz?
I have united credit that I want to use. This is the message I get,

We are unable to process your request. Please see the message below for details.

    We were not able to find any available seats meeting your requirements. You may modify your search criteria, or call 1-800-UNITED-1 (1-800-864-8331) within the U.S. or Canada; elsewhere contact your local United Reservations Office.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on May 23, 2016, 06:03:42 PM
I have united credit that I want to use. This is the message I get,

We are unable to process your request. Please see the message below for details.

    We were not able to find any available seats meeting your requirements. You may modify your search criteria, or call 1-800-UNITED-1 (1-800-864-8331) within the U.S. or Canada; elsewhere contact your local United Reservations Office.
So call.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on May 23, 2016, 06:06:34 PM
So call.
i did. They said that they do not fly this route.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on May 23, 2016, 07:08:36 PM
i did. They said that they do not fly this route.
Did you tell them which flight number?  How can they not see a route?  :o
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on May 23, 2016, 07:18:41 PM
Did you tell them which flight number?  How can they not see a route?  :o
update: I gave them the flight number and they told me I have to book it As a multi city. It actually came out 25 dollars cheaper than both its and orbitz had it!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on May 23, 2016, 07:25:01 PM
update: I gave them the flight number and they told me I have to book it As a multi city. It actually came out 25 dollars cheaper than both its and orbitz had it!
:D
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: pixi on May 23, 2016, 08:03:26 PM
If I book a flight BOS-EWR-TLV = TLV-EWR-BOS will. I be able to get down in EWR (on the way back)  and take my luggage with me, or it will arrive it BOS?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: coralsnake on May 23, 2016, 08:12:34 PM
If I book a flight BOS-EWR-TLV = TLV-EWR-BOS will. I be able to get down in EWR (on the way back)  and take my luggage with me, or it will arrive it BOS?
That
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yammer on May 23, 2016, 08:30:34 PM
If I book a flight BOS-EWR-TLV = TLV-EWR-BOS will. I be able to get down in EWR (on the way back)  and take my luggage with me, or it will arrive it BOS?

1) depends how long the stop is. Officially if the stop is more then 4 hours you can access your baggage.

2) make the last leg from JFK. Then you definitely won't have an issue.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: pixi on May 23, 2016, 08:33:49 PM
1) depends how long the stop is. Officially if the stop is more then 4 hours you can access your baggage.

2) make the last leg from JFK. Then you definitely won't have an issue.
What makes JFK different?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yammer on May 23, 2016, 08:35:35 PM
What makes JFK different?
If you land in EWR and then take a flight from JFK to BOS... your packages won't be automatically forwarded....
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: pixi on May 23, 2016, 08:41:35 PM
If you land in EWR and then take a flight from JFK to BOS... your packages won't be automatically forwarded....
Who mentioned JFK?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: srap on May 23, 2016, 08:56:25 PM
Who mentioned JFK?
He is saying to go TLV-EWR then continue JFK-BOS instead of EWR-BOS.  This forces you to pick up your bags in EWR.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: pixi on May 23, 2016, 09:02:41 PM
He is saying to go TLV-EWR then continue JFK-BOS instead of EWR-BOS.  This forces you to pick up your bags in EWR.
Ohhh...  Thanks.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yammer on May 23, 2016, 09:05:06 PM
Ohhh...  Thanks.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a mirrer on May 24, 2016, 04:00:13 AM
1) depends how long the stop is. Officially if the stop is more then 4 hours you can access your baggage.

2) make the last leg from JFK. Then you definitely won't have an issue.
if arriving from an international flight you always need to pick up your bags in EWR to go through customs
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: blue eyes on May 24, 2016, 01:16:48 PM
if arriving from an international flight you always need to pick up your bags in EWR to go through customs
Does that include Canada? and is that the case in JFK as well or just EWR?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: coralsnake on May 24, 2016, 01:21:49 PM
Does that include Canada? and is that the case in JFK as well or just EWR?
In Canada you usually go through customs before the flight.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on May 24, 2016, 01:58:39 PM
Does that include Canada? and is that the case in JFK as well or just EWR?
Coming from Canada - no.  Going through JFK or EWR  to Canada -yes.
Both JFK and EWR has customs for those coming in from foreign countries.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: pixi on May 24, 2016, 02:01:41 PM
Is there any reason why not to book TLV-EWR-BOS and get off in EWR?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on May 24, 2016, 02:08:24 PM
Is there any reason why not to book TLV-EWR-BOS and get off in EWR go onto the EWR-BOS flight?

FTFY

I guess if you really want to be a nice guy and comply with the airline's TOC, that might be a reason not to hop onto the EWR-BOS flight.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Tom Brady on May 24, 2016, 02:09:56 PM
Is there any reason why not to book TLV-EWR-BOS and get off in EWR?
The only two reasons that I can think of are: 1. If your flight gets cancelled they may put you on a different flight to BOS without hitting EWR. 2. If you make a habit of it, and attach your UA number to the reservation, they can theoretically close your UA account. If you're not concerned for those 2 reasons, then I can't think of any other reasons why not to do that.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: pixi on May 24, 2016, 02:10:07 PM
FTFY

I guess if you really want to be a nice guy and comply with the airline's TOC, that might be a reason not to hop onto the EWR-BOS flight.
Ha.. My questions was if there is any risk doing a hidden city ticket..  That's all
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on May 24, 2016, 02:11:31 PM
Ha.. Was questions was if there is any risk doing a hidden city ticket..  That's all
I've done it several times. Usually the biggest risk is forfeiting your FF Miles, but if you are not a "repeat offender" that risk is probably low. Also if you credit the miles to a different program, there might be less tracking going on, and the other program doesn't risk forfeiture.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: pixi on May 24, 2016, 02:11:38 PM
The only two reasons that I can think of are: 1. If your flight gets cancelled they may put you on a different flight to BOS without hitting EWR. 2. If you make a habit of it, and attach your UA number to the reservation, they can theoretically close your UA account. If you're not concerned for those 2 reasons, then I can't think of any other reasons why not to do that.
I'm not worrying for reason number 2.  Is reason number 1 a good enough reason to worry?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on May 24, 2016, 02:14:06 PM
I'm not worrying for reason number 2.  Is reason number 1 a good enough reason to worry?
IMHO there's NEVER a good reason to worry! Especially for a Yid with אמונה.

That being said, if you book it with a long enough layover in EWR, you can always claim that you have a business meeting in the area prior to continuing and must get to EWR.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on May 24, 2016, 02:20:02 PM
IMHO there's NEVER a good reason to worry! Especially for a Yid with אמונה.

That being said, if you book it with a long enough layover in EWR, you can always claim that you have a business meeting in the area prior to continuing and must get to EWR.
If you want to worry, even with a long layover, the airlines are only contractually required to get you from point A to point B. So although they (may) will be accomodating, they are not responsible.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zow on May 24, 2016, 05:54:46 PM
Is there any reason why not to book TLV-EWR-BOS and get off in EWR?
Boston is one of our country's great historical cities and features an unimaginable array of kosher food.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: pixi on May 24, 2016, 06:18:32 PM
Boston is one of our country's great historical cities and features an unimaginable array of kosher food.
Lol
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on May 25, 2016, 01:24:25 AM
Is there any reason why not to book TLV-EWR-BOS and get off in EWR?
There have been some cease and desist letters in the past that said they would ban them from flying with them (united) if it continued...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: curly on May 26, 2016, 12:47:14 PM
Just booked Hidden City with United.
Aside from not giving mileage accounts and not checking in any luggage, is there anything to know before going?
Thanks

Worked great thanks :)
Is there any reason not to request milege credit for the flight now?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on May 26, 2016, 10:42:34 PM
Worked great thanks :)
Is there any reason not to request milege credit for the flight now?
Don't call this to their attention.  Don't ask for credit on united.  Get it on a partner.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: avrumy22 on June 02, 2016, 03:14:14 PM
Mr. ********,
 
It has come to United Airlines’ attention that you and ********* have violated the “Prohibited Practices” outlined in Rule 6(J) of United’s Contract of Carriage.
 
On March 30, 2016. United identified an instance where you engaged in “Point Beyond Ticketing,” which is the unauthorized purchase of a ticket to a destination more distant than your actual destination.  The last segment of the ticket was not used from Cleveland  to Milwaukee. By including the additional segment, you were able to purchase your ticket at a lower fare.
 
Such conduct constitutes, among other things, fraud and a violation of Rule 6(J) of United’s Contract of Carriage, available for review via united.com.  Accordingly, United demands that you cease and desist this unauthorized practice immediately.
 
If you  continue to book and/or have tickets issued  in this manor, United reserves the right to take further action, including closing a MileagePlus account, filing suit against you to collect the amount owed and/or refusing to transport you on future flights in accordance with Rule 21 of the Contact of Carriage.
 
We sincerely hope no further action will be necessary.
 
Elba Gallegos
Corporate Security
United Airlines
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on June 02, 2016, 03:16:18 PM
Mr. ********,
 
It has come to United Airlines’ attention that you and ********* have violated the “Prohibited Practices” outlined in Rule 6(J) of United’s Contract of Carriage.
 
On March 30, 2016. United identified an instance where you engaged in “Point Beyond Ticketing,” which is the unauthorized purchase of a ticket to a destination more distant than your actual destination.  The last segment of the ticket was not used from Cleveland  to Milwaukee. By including the additional segment, you were able to purchase your ticket at a lower fare.
 
Such conduct constitutes, among other things, fraud and a violation of Rule 6(J) of United’s Contract of Carriage, available for review via united.com.  Accordingly, United demands that you cease and desist this unauthorized practice immediately.
 
If you  continue to book and/or have tickets issued  in this manor, United reserves the right to take further action, including closing a MileagePlus account, filing suit against you to collect the amount owed and/or refusing to transport you on future flights in accordance with Rule 21 of the Contact of Carriage.
 
We sincerely hope no further action will be necessary.
 
Elba Gallegos
Corporate Security
United Airlines
did you add your frequent flier #?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on June 02, 2016, 03:17:29 PM
How many passangers? Did you supply your Mileage Plus number? How often do you do this?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on June 02, 2016, 03:44:05 PM
Mr. ********,
 
It has come to United Airlines’ attention that you and ********* have violated the “Prohibited Practices” outlined in Rule 6(J) of United’s Contract of Carriage.
 
On March 30, 2016. United identified an instance where you engaged in “Point Beyond Ticketing,” which is the unauthorized purchase of a ticket to a destination more distant than your actual destination.  The last segment of the ticket was not used from Cleveland  to Milwaukee. By including the additional segment, you were able to purchase your ticket at a lower fare.
 
Such conduct constitutes, among other things, fraud and a violation of Rule 6(J) of United’s Contract of Carriage, available for review via united.com.  Accordingly, United demands that you cease and desist this unauthorized practice immediately.
 
If you  continue to book and/or have tickets issued  in this manor, United reserves the right to take further action, including closing a MileagePlus account, filing suit against you to collect the amount owed and/or refusing to transport you on future flights in accordance with Rule 21 of the Contact of Carriage.
 
We sincerely hope no further action will be necessary.
 
Elba Gallegos
Corporate Security
United Airlines

Just wondering if they look out for this more on domestic tickets than on international. Did anyone get a such a cease and desist for international hidden city?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on June 02, 2016, 03:46:42 PM
Just wondering if they look out for this more on domestic tickets than on international. Did anyone get a such a cease and desist for international hidden city?
would be helpful if he gave us more info

I did a hidden city on 5/30 and did not get an email. It was my first time and it was domestic as well

I thought his was 5/30 but it wasnt so wow it took them 2 months to email him
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Something Fishy on June 02, 2016, 03:48:38 PM
If you continue to book and/or have tickets issued in this manor,

...United reserves the right to kick you out and have you book tickets from the servant's quarters instead.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Dr Moose on June 02, 2016, 03:49:34 PM
...United reserves the right to kick you out and have you book tickets from the servant's quarters instead.
Lol
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on June 02, 2016, 04:03:55 PM
would be helpful if he gave us more info

I did a hidden city on 5/30 and did not get an email. It was my first time and it was domestic as well

I thought his was 5/30 but it wasnt so wow it took them 2 months to email him
I traveled with DW on 3 kids dropping last segment (we did actually go out to DCA for first segment, saving $200 per tkt), DW had her UA FFN on record and we got no such letter.

I've done it with DL several times, but I credited those to FB.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on June 02, 2016, 04:11:00 PM
I traveled with DW on 3 kids dropping last segment (we did actually go out to DCA for first segment, saving $200 per tkt), DW had her UA FFN on record and we got no such letter.

I've done it with DL several times, but I credited those to FB.
much easier when you have 3 kids as they let you board first I was by myseld with group boarding 5 and luckily I got the last spot for my carry on otherwise they would have had to check it. I was really nervous!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: avrumy22 on June 02, 2016, 04:26:35 PM
did you add your frequent flier #?

i think so...  :( did it more so it would be on the app for quick check in. I came to the airport pretty close to the flights.

not my first time doing HC but first time getting such an email.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 02, 2016, 04:38:32 PM
The dogs bark but the caravan moves on

Good that they are busy with this...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: momo on June 02, 2016, 04:40:15 PM
Looks fake. Continue to book tickets in this manor??? Really? Im sure united would have a canned email response, and cannot imagine that it would fly, with that typo. Pun intended.
Eta. I just googled Elba and she seems to work for united, credit card fraud, so maybe it's real?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on June 02, 2016, 04:43:51 PM
Susan made the same typo.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=45539.msg1464899;topicseen#msg1464899
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on June 02, 2016, 04:47:03 PM
Susan made the same typo.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=45539.msg1464899;topicseen#msg1464899

So I guess this is a canned typo  ;)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: momo on June 02, 2016, 04:47:39 PM
Susan made the same typo.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=45539.msg1464899;topicseen#msg1464899
i haven't been following this thread. Pretty embarrassing mistake for an airline.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on June 02, 2016, 04:53:14 PM
...United reserves the right to kick you out from the Manor and have you book tickets from the servant's quarters instead.


FTFY
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Josef.koney on June 02, 2016, 05:23:23 PM
Am I doing something wrong ?  Nc I never find anything.... Or is it for specific destinations...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on June 02, 2016, 05:30:46 PM
Am I doing something wrong ?  Nc I never find anything.... Or is it for specific destinations...
Works best when your true destination is a hub of some sort.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yammer on June 02, 2016, 05:33:10 PM
much easier when you have 3 kids as they let you board first I was by myseld with group boarding 5 and luckily I got the last spot for my carry on otherwise they would have had to check it. I was really nervous!
Had the same story. They didn't allow me to get onto the plane. I pleaded, begged, he wouldn't allow it on. He left for a moment and I begged a different stewardess" I have a meeting to attend.... she let me on...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Josef.koney on June 02, 2016, 05:38:19 PM
Works best when your true destination is a hub of some sort.
Mia to NYC is both hubs no ?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on June 02, 2016, 06:38:16 PM
Mia to NYC is both hubs no ?

They are. I've seen NYC-JAX connecting in MIA a couple of times.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Dan on June 02, 2016, 06:39:57 PM
Had the same story. They didn't allow me to get onto the plane. I pleaded, begged, he wouldn't allow it on. He left for a moment and I begged a different stewardess" I have a meeting to attend.... she let me on...
Medication always works.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Josef.koney on June 02, 2016, 06:40:37 PM
They are. I've seen NYC-JAX connecting in MIA a couple of times.
Nothing but thanks !
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on June 02, 2016, 06:56:56 PM
Nothing but thanks !
Currently looks like direct flights are cheapest. I know Dan's not a fan, but I've found things using skiplagged, and found it to be faster than using matrix.itasoftware.com I've also seen cases where skiplagged showed connections that itasoftware didn't and vice versa.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on June 02, 2016, 07:15:50 PM
Medication always works.
even if traveling solo?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on June 02, 2016, 07:42:24 PM
Currently looks like direct flights are cheapest. I know Dan's not a fan, but I've found things using skiplagged, and found it to be faster than using matrix.itasoftware.com I've also seen cases where skiplagged showed connections that itasoftware didn't and vice versa.
Use the top 100 airports from the WIKI. when you choose much more than that, like all airprts within 2000 miles from ORD, the search is not as effective. Few times i looked, matrix was better than skipplaged.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: rileywiles23 on June 02, 2016, 09:35:46 PM
even if traveling solo?

So if your traveling with someone else then you need to take your meds, but while traveling alone you'll be fine ?!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on June 02, 2016, 09:38:46 PM
So if your traveling with someone else then you need to take your meds, but while traveling alone you'll be fine ?!
i thought he meant kids medicine. Either way can't they say take out the medicine and check the bag?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on June 03, 2016, 09:35:20 AM
Medication always works.
To take your bag with you on the plane, or to have them deliver it planeside at the connecting airport?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on June 03, 2016, 10:19:55 AM
To take your bag with you on the plane, or to have them deliver it planeside at the connecting airport?
I have no experience, but I would imagine that something like "sir/ma'm I cannot risk having the baggage handlers not bringing it to me at the connection gate and rather sending it with the rest of the luggage. I've had bad experience in the past".
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on June 03, 2016, 10:54:13 AM
Medication always works.
Won't they just tell you to take out your medicine and hold it on you and we'll check the carry on?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: avrumy22 on June 03, 2016, 11:06:15 AM
To take your bag with you on the plane, or to have them deliver it planeside at the connecting airport?

I had a flight TLV-EWR on that other airline elal contracted to. they didnt want to let my carryon on. I did the meds thing and they told me to take it out!

Had a flight with a connecting (not HC) and they promised to bring the meds and full carryon by the stop. They didnt.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zow on June 03, 2016, 02:40:13 PM
I have no experience, but I would imagine that something like "sir/ma'm I cannot risk having the baggage handlers not bringing it to me at the connection gate and rather sending it with the rest of the luggage. I've had bad experience in the past".
This. Expressed with passion, sincerity and a sense of dread/anxiety.

Won't they just tell you to take out your medicine and hold it on you and we'll check the carry on?
Not sure this will work, but I would say, "It's actually very embarrassing, but I take a large number of medications. I don't have any contagious disease or anything like that, but there's no way I can take out all of my medicines and carry them without my fellow passengers seeing them all and learning my medical history. That would be a very serious breach of my privacy."
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on June 03, 2016, 02:52:24 PM
This. Expressed with passion, sincerity and a sense of dread/anxiety.

Not sure this will work, but I would say, "It's actually very embarrassing, but I take a large number of medications. I don't have any contagious disease or anything like that, but there's no way I can take out all of my medicines and carry them without my fellow passengers seeing them all and learning my medical history. That would be a very serious breach of my privacy."
+1

It's not only WHAT you say, but also HOW you say it. I don't think one should go into details, it's the principles that count. Need, privacy, and not being able to risk something going wrong.

All you need to do is turn the table so the agent feels it better/safer to let you have your bag than anything else that might happen and expose the agent and/or the airline to liability.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on June 06, 2016, 04:10:54 PM
Mr. ********,
 
It has come to United Airlines’ attention that you and ********* have violated the “Prohibited Practices” outlined in Rule 6(J) of United’s Contract of Carriage.
 
On March 30, 2016. United identified an instance where you engaged in “Point Beyond Ticketing,” which is the unauthorized purchase of a ticket to a destination more distant than your actual destination.  The last segment of the ticket was not used from Cleveland  to Milwaukee. By including the additional segment, you were able to purchase your ticket at a lower fare.
 
Such conduct constitutes, among other things, fraud and a violation of Rule 6(J) of United’s Contract of Carriage, available for review via united.com.  Accordingly, United demands that you cease and desist this unauthorized practice immediately.
 
If you  continue to book and/or have tickets issued  in this manor, United reserves the right to take further action, including closing a MileagePlus account, filing suit against you to collect the amount owed and/or refusing to transport you on future flights in accordance with Rule 21 of the Contact of Carriage.
 
We sincerely hope no further action will be necessary.
 
Elba Gallegos
Corporate Security
United Airlines
Where were you flying from. I havent seen a HC to CLE in a long time.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zow on June 06, 2016, 04:33:34 PM
+1

It's not only WHAT you say, but also HOW you say it. I don't think one should go into details, it's the principles that count. Need, privacy, and not being able to risk something going wrong.

All you need to do is turn the table so the agent feels it better/safer to let you have your bag than anything else that might happen and expose the agent and/or the airline to liability.

+1
Avoid adversarial interaction.
Get the agent on your side as your advocate.  Empower him/her to feel like s/he is doing right the right thing for everyone.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on June 15, 2016, 12:47:27 PM
If I do a hidden city from Tlv-Ewr-bos and get out in Ewr do get my luggage in Ewr or does it go straight through to Boston?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on June 15, 2016, 12:58:43 PM
If I do a hidden city from Tlv-Ewr-bos and get out in Ewr do get my luggage in Ewr or does it go straight through to Boston?
You must claim it in EWR
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Denverite on June 16, 2016, 07:27:59 PM
Any of you ever do hidden city mileage bookings, just for availability?  I want SFO-HKG direct on SQ and it's always wait-listed but SFO-SIN via HKG often has space.  I'm actually willing to pay a few extra points to get the flights I want.  If I show another flight out of HKG I'm assuming I'll be ok with immigration but I was just worried about creating a problem with my account or having it shut down and was wondering if you all ever do this stuff for mileage tickets.  Forgive me also if this goes in another thread but thought I'd start here.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on June 16, 2016, 07:32:52 PM
Any of you ever do hidden city mileage bookings, just for availability?  I want SFO-HKG direct on SQ and it's always wait-listed but SFO-SIN via HKG often has space.  I'm actually willing to pay a few extra points to get the flights I want.  If I show another flight out of HKG I'm assuming I'll be ok with immigration but I was just worried about creating a problem with my account or having it shut down and was wondering if you all ever do this stuff for mileage tickets.  Forgive me also if this goes in another thread but thought I'd start here.
people do hidden city with mileage tickets to get the cheaper price. If you want to fly sfo to Hkg and it is not showing available but by adding sin it magically becomes available then you should be able to call up sq to have them book you just the sfo to Hkg leg.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Denverite on June 16, 2016, 07:45:09 PM
people do hidden city with mileage tickets to get the cheaper price. If you want to fly sfo to Hkg and it is not showing available but by adding sin it magically becomes available then you should be able to call up sq to have them book you just the sfo to Hkg leg.

I actually asked them on the phone and they said no (I guess I could HUCA but it consistently shows it this way online).  I could be wrong but I guess maybe just like pricing is based on demand, mileage availability is also based on demand and the direct flights are the most sought after.  With timing for Shabbos and vacation days, etc. it's more important that I get the specific flight.   Maybe this is a specific Singapore Air thing, I have no idea but thanks and I'll play around with it some more.   
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on June 16, 2016, 08:44:40 PM
people do hidden city with mileage tickets to get the cheaper price. If you want to fly sfo to Hkg and it is not showing available but by adding sin it magically becomes available then you should be able to call up sq to have them book you just the sfo to Hkg leg.
What about booking with them SFO-SIN via HKG and then subsequently calling them to change the ticket by dropping HKG-SIN?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Denverite on June 16, 2016, 09:11:05 PM
What about booking with them SFO-SIN via HKG and then subsequently calling them to change the ticket by dropping HKG-SIN?

Thanks, that's a good idea and then if they still refuse then I can just not use that last portion of the ticket.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on June 16, 2016, 09:32:19 PM
Thanks, that's a good idea and then if they still refuse then I can just not use that last portion of the ticket.
I can't see why they might refuse (especially if it's the same award). It's not like a revenue fare that might be restricted to a certain origin and a certain destination. Award fares (even with AA which is the worst) are much more flexible, and don't have as many booking codes as revenue fares.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmm740 on June 16, 2016, 10:38:30 PM
I actually asked them on the phone and they said no (I guess I could HUCA but it consistently shows it this way online).  I could be wrong but I guess maybe just like pricing is based on demand, mileage availability is also based on demand and the direct flights are the most sought after.  With timing for Shabbos and vacation days, etc. it's more important that I get the specific flight.   Maybe this is a specific Singapore Air thing, I have no idea but thanks and I'll play around with it some more.   
Married segments.
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/60991
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Denverite on June 16, 2016, 11:12:51 PM
Married segments.
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/60991

Thanks, this is perfect!  And I see that he advises to do what ExGingi says for award tickets to hold/book the whole thing and then have them drop a leg.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on June 17, 2016, 07:22:48 AM
Does it make sense that you can use multi city on ita and a one way flight to get the same results as hidden city ticketing(using a multi city search), (meaning if the multi city dates and times are close enough to each other, will it pull of the same trick as hidden city ticketing(using one way search? )?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David R on June 17, 2016, 05:07:46 PM
If I fly Delta within USA and skip the second leg, will I still earn Flying Blue miles?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on June 18, 2016, 10:36:15 PM
If I fly Delta within USA and skip the second leg, will I still earn Flying Blue miles?
Yes
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: skinfarrock on June 21, 2016, 10:24:22 AM
on a flight from yyz to phl with a stopover in jfk on delta, will my bags come out in jfk due to international like tlv flight or wont work with yyz?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chff on June 21, 2016, 10:33:41 AM
on a flight from yyz to phl with a stopover in jfk on delta, will my bags come out in jfk due to international like tlv flight or wont work with yyz?
From YYZ the bags go thru as customs is done in YYZ
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: skinfarrock on June 21, 2016, 10:38:33 AM
From YYZ the bags go thru as customs is done in YYZ

that's what i was afraid of! any way around that?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: MosheD on June 21, 2016, 11:14:02 AM
that's what i was afraid of! any way around that?
Only bring carry-on
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on June 21, 2016, 11:21:57 AM
that's what i was afraid of! any way around that?
Don't check luggage.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on June 21, 2016, 05:27:49 PM
Don't check luggage.
Only bring carry-on
that's what i was afraid of! any way around that?
+1, what happens when your in need of 1 suitcase and you book with hidden city, how can you claim th baggage? Playing sick that you can't travel much longer or do they ever switch planes when making a stopover? 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on June 21, 2016, 05:30:19 PM
+1, what happens when your in need of 1 suitcase and you book with hidden city, how can you claim th baggage? Playing sick that you can't travel much longer or do they ever switch planes when making a stopover? 
Ship your stuff via UPS.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on June 21, 2016, 05:31:43 PM
Ship your stuff via UPS.
so for ex, I want to fly to la from ny for the summer,and I have a 50 pound luggage, what am I going to pay to have it shipped in one piece? 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on June 21, 2016, 05:32:49 PM
Ship your stuff via UPS.
after all shipping costs, it will probably be cheaper to pay for a normal ticket!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on June 21, 2016, 07:02:24 PM
so for ex, I want to fly to la from ny for the summer,and I have a 50 pound luggage, what am I going to pay to have it shipped in one piece? 
Nobody said Hidden City is for everybody.

Try finding a flight landing late at night that has the connection out of LA the next morning. That's the only sure way (I know of) to get your luggage off the plane.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on June 22, 2016, 08:38:10 AM
after all shipping costs, it will probably be cheaper to pay for a normal ticket!
-1
Shipping a 50# suitcase halfway across the country with UPS Ground would be $30-$45... but will take a few days.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: latke on June 28, 2016, 06:55:58 PM
Boooked my parents JFK-TLV then TLV-JFK-YUL on the return.  They WILL check bags in TLV.  AM I correct in stating that the bags will come out on the belt, they will clear customs, and can simply go home?  I should have booked EWR-YUL as it's a different airport, but I didn't, and am slightly concerned.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 28, 2016, 07:06:31 PM
Boooked my parents JFK-TLV then TLV-JFK-YUL on the return.  They WILL check bags in TLV.  AM I correct in stating that the bags will come out on the belt, they will clear customs, and can simply go home?  I should have booked EWR-YUL as it's a different airport, but I didn't, and am slightly concerned.
Yes
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chff on June 28, 2016, 07:20:08 PM
Boooked my parents JFK-TLV then TLV-JFK-YUL on the return.  They WILL check bags in TLV.  AM I correct in stating that the bags will come out on the belt, they will clear customs, and can simply go home?  I should have booked EWR-YUL as it's a different airport, but I didn't, and am slightly concerned.
One more time pls
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: curly on June 30, 2016, 10:56:08 AM
Is there a way to skip the first portion of a flight which is actually just a train ride from PHL airport to EWR?

8:10 pm – 9:16 pm
Philadelphia (ZFV) – Newark (EWR)
United 3172 · Economy Class
Operated by Amtrak Train
This is a train service
1h 06m
Layover in Newark Overnight
19h 29m
4:45 pm+1 – 10:15 am+2
Newark (EWR) – Tel Aviv (TLV)
United 84 · Economy Class · Boeing 777
Average legroom (31")


This flight comes out to $971 but when booked from Newark is $1500. How to circumvent?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on June 30, 2016, 11:38:04 AM
Is there a way to skip the first portion of a flight which is actually just a train ride from PHL airport to EWR?

8:10 pm – 9:16 pm
Philadelphia (ZFV) – Newark (EWR)
United 3172 · Economy Class
Operated by Amtrak Train
This is a train service
1h 06m
Layover in Newark Overnight
19h 29m
4:45 pm+1 – 10:15 am+2
Newark (EWR) – Tel Aviv (TLV)
United 84 · Economy Class · Boeing 777
Average legroom (31")


This flight comes out to $971 but when booked from Newark is $1500. How to circumvent?

you need to read this thread
ZFV Master Thread (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15669.msg896247#msg896247)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: emak on July 07, 2016, 10:22:01 AM
PHL-JFK-TLV (Round trip)
Any way to skip first PHL leg?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yakov116 on July 07, 2016, 10:24:01 AM
PHL-JFK-TLV (Round trip)
Any way to skip first PHL leg?
no
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: emak on July 07, 2016, 10:30:56 AM
I'm assuming I can't scan boarding pass etc and just not board that flight? I saw that discussed.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on July 07, 2016, 10:49:52 AM
I'm assuming I can't scan boarding pass etc and just not board that flight? I saw that discussed.
Not gonna work. If the savings are that substantial, just shlep and start the trip in Philly.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: rochk123 on July 07, 2016, 02:46:38 PM
Looking for a ticket from BWI, IAD, DCA to TLV on July 19
and Back on Around July 26. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitzyul on July 08, 2016, 12:21:31 PM
Was surprised to find J at almost half price via hidden city. In the past it has only really shown a major difference on Y
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on July 08, 2016, 12:22:29 PM
Was surprised to find J at almost half price via hidden city. In the past it has only really shown a major difference on Y
International? Then it might be a dump..
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitzyul on July 08, 2016, 12:23:21 PM
International? Then it might be a dump..
Domestic. Jfk/LAx delta $1500 via Hidden $599
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on July 08, 2016, 12:24:54 PM
Domestic. Jfk/LAx delta $1500 via Hidden $599
Thats interesting.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitzyul on July 08, 2016, 02:50:49 PM
Domestic. Jfk/LAx delta $1500 via Hidden $599
Anything to be concerned about putting my mileage account on HC? Its a shame not to earn the miles if its business class tickets. (I'm assuming Hand luggage shouldn't be a problem on business)

Bothe Delta and United business HC are almost $1100 cheaper
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on July 08, 2016, 02:52:27 PM
Anything to be concerned about putting my mileage account on HC? Its a shame not to earn the miles if its business class tickets. (I'm assuming Hand luggage shouldn't be a problem on business)

Bothe Delta and United business HC are almost $1100 cheaper
Its been mentioned to credit your miles to a partner airline. Personally, I've never done that.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitzyul on July 08, 2016, 02:59:15 PM
Its been mentioned to credit your miles to a partner airline. Personally, I've never done that.

I guess what the worst? they will send me a warning email:)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on July 09, 2016, 09:51:38 PM
I've heard reports on DL HC where putting in an alaska FF will earn you miles even on the missed flight
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ddfried on July 19, 2016, 05:29:22 PM
I'm looking for a cheap flight to Vienne,austria via hidden city ticketing.. any ideas?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on July 19, 2016, 05:35:08 PM
I'm looking for a cheap flight to Vienne,austria via hidden city ticketing.. any ideas?
Let ita matrix tell you
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ddfried on July 19, 2016, 05:37:12 PM
Let ita matrix tell you
OK.. I did that but #1 there are certain cities that you can save more as a destination and #2 it has to be to a destination where my packages will come off at Vienne..
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on July 19, 2016, 05:54:35 PM
OK.. I did that

but #1 there are certain cities that you can save more as a destination
In other words, you didn't check ita properly.

Read the wiki.
Title: Connecting codeshare flight operated by different airline
Post by: rabshi on July 22, 2016, 03:48:19 AM
I want to fly TLV-JFK-TLV with Delta. I got a better deal when "flying" to US hidden city after stopping in JFK & "continuing" to hidden city.

After searching here I understand that there are chances they will cancel my JFK-TLV segment if I won't use the connection flight to hidden city after landing in JFK.

My question is if it's the same when the connection flight is operated by a different airline & has a Delta codeshare.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on July 22, 2016, 06:22:21 AM
I want to fly TLV-JFK-TLV with Delta. I got a better deal when "flying" to US hidden city after stopping in JFK & "continuing" to hidden city.

After searching here I understand that there are chances they will cancel my JFK-TLV segment if I won't use the connection flight to hidden city after landing in JFK.

My question is if it's the same when the connection flight is operated by a different airline & has a Delta codeshare.
No difference.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: blue eyes on August 07, 2016, 02:45:19 AM
Does anyone have experience with Swiss connecting train fromBRU- ZRH-ZDH?
what happens with the luggage on the second leg via train?
Do they make you collect luggage in ZRH- meaning i can check in luggage and then walk off?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 07, 2016, 05:14:05 AM
Within Switzerland you can check the luggage for extra fee, don't think it's possible outside Switzerland
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: blue eyes on August 07, 2016, 09:36:50 AM
So when I arrive in Switzerland will it come out on the conveyer belt or be sent directly to the train?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on August 12, 2016, 02:04:22 AM
So when I arrive in Switzerland will it come out on the conveyer belt or be sent directly to the train?
Iirc it gets sent directly, not 100% sure on this route
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bznt on August 12, 2016, 08:20:37 AM
So when I arrive in Switzerland will it come out on the conveyer belt or be sent directly to the train?

Iirc it gets sent directly, not 100% sure on this route
Don't you have to pay extra at the time of departure to have them forward your luggage to your hotel ?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: elya on August 18, 2016, 04:03:01 PM
Just booked a Hidden City on UA, Says second leg (EWR-ABE) is operated by "Bus service", Does this mean I can check luggage and it will come out in EWR?

Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on August 18, 2016, 04:08:26 PM
Just booked a Hidden City on UA, Says second leg (EWR-ABE) is operated by "Bus service", Does this mean I can check luggage and it will come out in EWR?
what's the route?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: elya on August 18, 2016, 04:09:32 PM
what's the route?

DEN-EWR-ABE
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on August 18, 2016, 04:10:05 PM

where are you starting?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: elya on August 18, 2016, 04:10:51 PM
where are you starting?
Sorry, edited my post. DEN-EWR-ABE
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on August 18, 2016, 04:11:53 PM
Sorry, edited my post. DEN-EWR-ABE
yes they will check it through you cannot check luggage
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: elya on August 18, 2016, 04:18:16 PM
yes they will check it through you cannot check luggage
Thank you.

 Just curious how does this "Bus service" work, do they send you on a Greyhound?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: pixi on August 21, 2016, 03:26:37 AM
Booked EWR-TLV = TLV EWR-BOS...
Just to confirm I'll be able to  get my luggage off in EWR .  Right?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: sillypainter on August 21, 2016, 04:33:28 AM
Booked EWR-TLV = TLV EWR-BOS...
Just to confirm I'll be able to  get my luggage off in EWR .  Right?

Yup.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Freddie on August 23, 2016, 12:55:44 AM
I've done NYC-YTZ or YYZ connecting at YUL

I'm looking to do a PIT-YTZ-YUL hidden city on Porter. Will I be able to get my checked luggage at YTZ? I assume so but want to confirm.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ad120 on September 15, 2016, 05:35:45 PM
What happened to this wiki?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on September 15, 2016, 05:37:24 PM
What happened to this wiki?
It's still there, are you on tapatalk?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ad120 on September 15, 2016, 05:40:28 PM
It's still there, are you on tapatalk?
no surface pro 4
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: sillypainter on September 15, 2016, 05:42:57 PM
SWF-DTW-MDW EXCELLENT HC ticket.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ad120 on September 15, 2016, 05:45:02 PM
SWF-DTW-MDW EXCELLENT HC ticket.
can someone check nyc to mia for tomorrow pls?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on September 15, 2016, 05:48:12 PM
can someone check nyc to mia for tomorrow pls?
Skiplagged shows an AA flight at 8am for $121, or a 1:30pm flight for $96.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ad120 on September 15, 2016, 05:50:35 PM
Skiplagged shows an AA flight at 8am for $121, or a 1:30pm flight for $96.
TY
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on September 15, 2016, 09:12:53 PM
SWF-DTW-MDW EXCELLENT HC ticket.
Where do you live that SWF is convenient for you?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on September 15, 2016, 09:59:08 PM
Where do you live that SWF is convenient for you?

Kiryas Yoel / Monroe is very close by.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on September 15, 2016, 10:01:21 PM
Kiryas Yoel / Monroe is very close by.
+1
Also all the upstate communities.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: sillypainter on September 15, 2016, 10:13:41 PM
Where do you live that SWF is convenient for you?

Monroe/monsey or Catskills, virtually no traffic. Used it a couple weeks ago and it was great meeting better than anything I ever experienced + parking is also cheap.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on September 18, 2016, 04:36:09 PM
Monroe/monsey or Catskills, virtually no traffic. Used it a couple weeks ago and it was great meeting better than anything I ever experienced + parking is also cheap.
+1
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Joe4007 on September 20, 2016, 12:19:10 PM
Monroe/monsey or Catskills, virtually no traffic. Used it a couple weeks ago and it was great meeting better than anything I ever experienced + parking is also cheap.
I'll second that. Amazing how much a flying experience can differ between airports.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on September 20, 2016, 12:34:22 PM
I hate LGA as much as the next guy, but it's usually the same distance as SWF from Monsey, it has a centurion lounge, and AA is only $70 each way to DTW (price war with spirit).
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: momo on September 20, 2016, 12:37:57 PM
I hate LGA as much as the next guy, but it's usually the same distance as SWF from Monsey, it has a centurion lounge, and AA is only $70 each way to DTW (price war with spirit).
When was the last time you flew out of Terminal B? I would avoid it with all the construction. its at least an additional 20 minutes, just getting into the terminal right now.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lazeryudel on September 22, 2016, 05:54:02 PM
i remeber in the past talk of a middle east hidden city airport codes list for flights to and from the holy land .does any of the great fellows have  such a list
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Agoldsc1 on September 22, 2016, 10:36:45 PM
I hate LGA as much as the next guy, but it's usually the same distance as SWF from Monsey, it has a centurion lounge, and AA is only $70 each way to DTW (price war with spirit).

The Centurion lounge is outside of security. What's the point? Outside of security, there are many places I'd rather be than the Centurion lounge (i.e. home).
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on September 27, 2016, 09:01:48 PM
i remeber in the past talk of a middle east hidden city airport codes list for flights to and from the holy land .does any of the great fellows have  such a list
I don't see how Hidden city would help for throwaway ticketing around TLV.
can someone give a working example?
Like is NYC-TLV-ATH ever cheaper then NYC-TLV?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on September 28, 2016, 12:51:12 AM
I don't see how Hidden city would help for throwaway ticketing around TLV.
can someone give a working example?
Like is NYC-TLV-ATH ever cheaper then NYC-TLV?
Which airline do you expect this to be on? TLV isn't a hub for any airline (it's a home base for ELAL, I doubt they sell any connecting fares that route via TLV) if anything you can expect an XXX-TLV segment to be a throwaway on some other airline such as RJ or MS.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on September 28, 2016, 11:32:55 AM
Which airline do you expect this to be on? TLV isn't a hub for any airline (it's a home base for ELAL, I doubt they sell any connecting fares that route via TLV) if anything you can expect an XXX-TLV segment to be a throwaway on some other airline such as RJ or MS.
Are you directing your question to me? I was essentially asking the same question you are, but to the person who suggested Hidden city into TLV
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on September 28, 2016, 12:34:39 PM
Are you directing your question to me? I was essentially asking the same question you are, but to the person who suggested Hidden city into TLV
I guess I just gave the reasoning as to why it's highly unlikely.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on November 15, 2016, 11:07:50 AM
Is it possible to do hidden city TLV-NYC-TLV-XXX? not finding anything?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: travel agent on November 15, 2016, 11:22:31 AM
with miles I did AAA - TLV - ATH/IST
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on November 15, 2016, 11:25:41 AM
with miles I did AAA - TLV - ATH/IST
no not miles cash booking so needs to be RT
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 10:58:51 AM
no not miles cash booking so needs to be RT
You can do 2 OW tickets to achieve a RT. Maybe find a hidden city for each way.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on November 16, 2016, 11:12:08 AM
You can do 2 OW tickets to achieve a RT. Maybe find a hidden city for each way.
international tickets price much higher 1 way than RT. I have had a lot of success doing NYC-TLV-NYC-XXX but now doing it in reverse I am not having much success.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on November 16, 2016, 11:32:33 AM
Is it possible to do hidden city TLV-NYC-TLV-XXX? not finding anything?
What route do you actually need to fly, and what dates?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on November 16, 2016, 11:36:54 AM
What route do you actually need to fly, and what dates?
want to leave TLV on 1/5 in J to NYC and return in J as well to TLV on 2/6 or 2/7
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on November 16, 2016, 11:42:36 AM
want to leave TLV on 1/5 in J to NYC and return in J as well to TLV on 2/6 or 2/7
And I would like to do the reverse the third week of Jan for a one week RT.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on November 16, 2016, 11:51:01 AM
And I would like to do the reverse the third week of Jan for a one week RT.
opposite way should be much easier at least for me
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: GAM Z. on November 23, 2016, 11:43:50 PM
Should I be scared to book a United or American HC with miles? Is there a chance that they will ban my account?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on November 23, 2016, 11:55:32 PM
Should I be scared to book a United or American HC with miles? Is there a chance that they will ban my account?
Probably not. The mileage tix is cheaper with a HC?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: GAM Z. on November 24, 2016, 12:41:53 AM
Probably not. The mileage tix is cheaper with a HC?
Thanks! I didn't check, I was just wondering
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: momo on December 05, 2016, 11:40:55 AM
When searching for a flight from nyc-hsv, there are no nonstop flights. When i put hsv into the standard search i get an error message.Any tips, as to what i am doing wrong?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on December 05, 2016, 12:03:31 PM
When searching for a flight from nyc-hsv, there are no nonstop flights. When i put hsv into the standard search i get an error message.Any tips, as to what i am doing wrong?
you have to search it as a multi city
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: momo on December 05, 2016, 12:18:09 PM
you have to search it as a multi city
Thanks!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Freddie on December 10, 2016, 07:13:17 PM
I know people say not to use your frequent flyer number on a HC but I want to use my status to get a better seat. Anyone ever had a problem with this?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on December 10, 2016, 08:33:05 PM
I know people say not to use your frequent flyer number on a HC but I want to use my status to get a better seat. Anyone ever had a problem with this?
You can change the FF program/number on the record after seat assigned.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on December 10, 2016, 08:36:37 PM
I know people say not to use your frequent flyer number on a HC but I want to use my status to get a better seat. Anyone ever had a problem with this?
First time you should be fine.
You can also remove FF/change to partner FF after seat selection/upgrade
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Freddie on December 10, 2016, 08:46:33 PM
First time you should be fine.
You can also remove FF/change to partner FF after seat selection/upgrade

It's actually my second time on this airline. I did it once before like a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Freddie on December 13, 2016, 09:05:39 PM
1. Please explain what is so terrible if they GATE CHECK the bag? Whenever my carryon doesn't make it on board, they just gate check it and you get it on the jet bridge when you get off. What am I missing here?

2. What the bins are like on a Bombardier CRJ-200 (CR2)?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on December 13, 2016, 09:06:54 PM
1. Please explain what is so terrible if they GATE CHECK the bag? Whenever my carryon doesn't make it on board, they just gate check it and you get it on the jet bridge when you get off. What am I missing here?

not true if they gate check you get it at the carousel at your final destination
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on December 13, 2016, 09:07:08 PM
1. Please explain what is so terrible if they GATE CHECK the bag? Whenever my carryon doesn't make it on board, they just gate check it and you get it on the jet bridge when you get off. What am I missing here?

2. What the bins are like on a Bombardier CRJ-200 (CR2)?
I've had gate checked bags get checked through to baggage claim, what airline are you flying?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on December 13, 2016, 09:08:20 PM
2. What the bins are like on a Bombardier CRJ-200 (CR2)?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Freddie on December 13, 2016, 09:11:30 PM
not true if they gate check you get it at the carousel at your final destination
I have flown regional jets probably hundreds of times and had to gate check my bag and literally never had them check it through to the carousel.

I've had gate checked bags get checked through to baggage claim, what airline are you flying?
AA


I have probably flown this plane dozens of times but I can't remember all the different names of the planes. There are the tiny 1 and 2 configurations where the bins are tiny but this is a 2 and 2. I can't remember what size bins they have.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on December 13, 2016, 09:15:39 PM
I have flown regional jets probably hundreds of times and had to gate check my bag and literally never had them check it through to the carousel.
AA
I have probably flown this plane dozens of times but I can't remember all the different names of the planes. There are the tiny 1 and 2 configurations where the bins are tiny but this is a 2 and 2. I can't remember what size bins they have.
I've had my bag gate checked to the carousel on AA before.

I should have clarified, I was commenting on your sentence structure, not the actual question, I have no clue which jet that is.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on December 13, 2016, 09:26:42 PM
I have flown regional jets probably hundreds of times and had to gate check my bag and literally never had them check it through to the carousel.
+1
Same experience with regional jets.

Not sure about this, but I think Davka where the plane is too small for the average sized check-in bags, they gate-check everyone's carry-on to the jet bridge. The usual gate-check on a big plane, however, ends up with all the other luggage in the hold and goes to carousel.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Freddie on December 13, 2016, 09:28:55 PM
+1
Same experience with regional jets.

Not sure about this, but I think Davka where the plane is too small for the average sized check-in bags, they gate-check everyone's carry-on to the jet bridge. The usual gate-check on a big plane, however, ends up with all the other luggage in the hold and goes to carousel.

Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen them unload gatechecked bags on the jetbridge on an international flight.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on December 13, 2016, 09:31:17 PM
Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen them unload gatechecked bags on the jetbridge on an international flight.
I have - on shuttle flights to Canada ;)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shulem92 on December 13, 2016, 09:33:55 PM
Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen them unload gatechecked bags on the jetbridge on an international flight.
Don't they bring up strollers and the like? What if you tell them it has your food and you need to eat in the airport between flights?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bochur on December 13, 2016, 11:28:00 PM
+1
Same experience with regional jets.

Not sure about this, but I think Davka where the plane is too small for the average sized check-in bags, they gate-check everyone's carry-on to the jet bridge. The usual gate-check on a big plane, however, ends up with all the other luggage in the hold and goes to carousel.
This
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing- passport??
Post by: mrk613 on January 01, 2017, 05:34:08 PM
I have a Delta flight from NY (LGA) , stopping in Detroit, ending in Toronto.
I am getting out in Detroit, but do I need a passport because flight finishes in Canada?
Title: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on January 01, 2017, 05:37:53 PM
I have a Delta flight from NY (LGA) , stopping in Detroit, ending in Toronto.
I am getting out in Detroit, but do I need a passport because flight finishes in Canada?
Yes.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: skinfarrock on January 04, 2017, 02:15:45 PM
so when flying on a hidden city ticket will i receive miles? if yes how many?

with united
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on January 04, 2017, 08:32:11 PM
so when flying on a hidden city ticket will i receive miles? if yes how many?

with united
You'll receive what you flew usually. credit to SQ
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: skinfarrock on January 04, 2017, 08:45:47 PM
You'll receive what you flew usually. credit to SQ
I need the miles for my gold challenge
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on January 04, 2017, 08:47:36 PM
I need the miles for my gold challenge
so you shouldn't be doing a hidden city
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: skinfarrock on January 04, 2017, 08:56:45 PM
so you shouldn't be doing a hidden city
Lol!! Agreed!! But $500 difference
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: rileywiles23 on January 04, 2017, 10:08:05 PM
Lol!! Agreed!! But $500 difference
Is the $500 worth, another company to add to your banned list ?!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: skinfarrock on January 04, 2017, 10:17:03 PM
Is the $500 worth, another company to add to your banned list ?!
They aren't gonna ban me over one hidden city ticket!! Lol
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitzyul on January 13, 2017, 03:04:49 PM
Lax-JFK-BDA
Getting of @ JFK
Do I have to get to the airport early in LAX as if international flight or I can still come last minute and just go straight to the gate with boarding pass?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on January 13, 2017, 03:21:18 PM
Lax-JFK-BDA
Getting of @ JFK
Do I have to get to the airport early in LAX as if international flight or I can still come last minute and just go straight to the gate with boarding pass?
Don't forget your passport.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Abet rich on January 15, 2017, 08:04:33 AM
1. Please explain what is so terrible if they GATE CHECK the bag? Whenever my carryon doesn't make it on board, they just gate check it and you get it on the jet bridge when you get off. What am I missing here?

2. What the bins are like on a Bombardier CRJ-200 (CR2)?
Ime recently anytime they hate check cuz of running out of space it will always be checked to the final destination with pickup at the luggage carousel. Could be it was just the flights I was flying but not worth the risk... and try explaining to them why you can't have it checked all the way through lol
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Dr Moose on January 15, 2017, 09:33:16 AM
Depends on the airline I believe. AA I've had to pick up on the jet bridge. UA they checked it thru and needed to pick it up at the carousel.

Also, might depend on route.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on January 15, 2017, 09:35:11 AM
Depends on the airline I believe. AA I've had to pick up on the jet bridge. UA they checked it thru and needed to pick it up at the carousel.

Also, might depend on route.
This, I've had to pick up bags at the carousel on some AA flights.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: andrew on January 16, 2017, 12:20:44 PM
I'm Booking a hidden city ticket with plans to get off in JFK. Can I get my bags off if my itinerary is all domestic or does this only work when flying into JFK from an international airport?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on January 16, 2017, 12:22:59 PM
I'm Booking a hidden city ticket with plans to get off in JFK. Can I get my bags off if my itinerary is all domestic or does this only work when flying into JFK from an international airport?
the latter
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: andrew on January 16, 2017, 12:55:25 PM
Thank you
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on January 17, 2017, 11:37:30 AM
I'm Booking a hidden city ticket with plans to get off in JFK. Can I get my bags off if my itinerary is all domestic or does this only work when flying into JFK from an international airport?
Depends how long the stopover is and/or if its overnight
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yammer on January 17, 2017, 11:43:58 AM
I'm Booking a hidden city ticket with plans to get off in JFK. Can I get my bags off if my itinerary is all domestic or does this only work when flying into JFK from an international airport?

Depends how long the stopover is and/or if its overnight

Needs to be more then 4 hours, unless you take the next leg from EWR. ( I did that once )

Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yuds70 on January 17, 2017, 01:20:33 PM
I'm Booking a hidden city ticket with plans to get off in JFK. Can I get my bags off if my itinerary is all domestic or does this only work when flying into JFK from an international airport?
Worse comes to worse, ship your bags ahead.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Freddie on January 17, 2017, 02:12:12 PM
+1
Same experience with regional jets.

Not sure about this, but I think Davka where the plane is too small for the average sized check-in bags, they gate-check everyone's carry-on to the jet bridge. The usual gate-check on a big plane, however, ends up with all the other luggage in the hold and goes to carousel.

I just want to confirm that I am fairly certain now that this is true. Being that I fly out of PIT, most of the planes I fly are small (Bombadiers and CRJs) and this is ALWAYS the case.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on January 17, 2017, 02:30:50 PM
+1
Same experience with regional jets.

Not sure about this, but I think Davka where the plane is too small for the average sized check-in carry-on bags, they gate-check everyone's carry-on to the jet bridge. The usual gate-check on a big plane, however, ends up with all the other luggage in the hold and goes to carousel.
Oops.
FTFM
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: stooges44 on February 06, 2017, 02:17:50 PM
Forgive me, very new at this. Is it possible to use hidden city for jfk -tlv?

From my understanding of this http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/35313 i'm not really seeing anything, either I get an error or I see regular fares.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on February 06, 2017, 02:32:37 PM
Forgive me, very new at this. Is it possible to use hidden city for jfk -tlv?

From my understanding of this http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/35313 i'm not really seeing anything, either I get an error or I see regular fares.
One way? Doubt it.

Round trip (NYC-TLV-NYC)? Usually something available.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: stooges44 on February 06, 2017, 02:34:12 PM
One way? Doubt it.

Round trip (NYC-TLV-NYC)? Usually something available.

Sorry, I meant round trip
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on February 06, 2017, 03:19:01 PM
Whats going on with HC from Miami to Ny? I can't seem to get it to work anymore?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: gozalim on February 16, 2017, 07:36:54 AM
Is it safe to use TSA Pre (known traveler) on HC ticket? or can that help the airline track down your mileage account?

Crediting to partners is fine?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on February 19, 2017, 06:26:19 PM
Is it safe to use TSA Pre (known traveler) on HC ticket? or can that help the airline track down your mileage account?

Crediting to partners is fine?
Its safe.
Yes
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: theyankel on February 20, 2017, 05:43:45 PM
Flying sfo - sdq via jfk. Delta one for $512 instead of $3k. Not checking bags but do I need to check in as if intl flight? Do I need passport? Can I say I have meeting in jfk in between flights and my associate is bringing?
What is best partner to credit the miles to? Looks like x class. Is that first/delta one?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on February 20, 2017, 11:27:12 PM
Yes you need a passport, though no personal experience, but have heard stories where boarding was denied due to it.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on February 21, 2017, 07:57:21 PM
Flying sfo - sdq via jfk. Delta one for $512 instead of $3k. Not checking bags but do I need to check in as if intl flight? Do I need passport? Can I say I have meeting in jfk in between flights and my associate is bringing?
What is best partner to credit the miles to? Looks like x class. Is that first/delta one?
X class is economy
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: emak on February 27, 2017, 08:24:33 PM
United- YYZ-EWR-MEX, any issue with using as hidden city? Will they ask for visa or proof of return ticket for the Mexico leg?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: emak on March 01, 2017, 08:48:23 AM
When booking YYZ-EWR-IAD or EWR-YYZ-YVR etc. The luggage will be able to be picked up on the middle leg? Or straight to final destination?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on March 01, 2017, 09:02:42 AM
When booking YYZ-EWR-IAD or EWR-YYZ-YVR etc. The luggage will be able to be picked up on the middle leg? Or straight to final destination?

YYZ-EWR-IAD the luggage will go straight through as you clear customs in Canada. EWR-YYZ-YVR you clear in Canada so you can pick up luggage in YYZ.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: theyankel on March 01, 2017, 01:32:37 PM
X class is economy


it was definitely first.

and not only was it definitely first, i also just called DL and explained that i had an "emergency" and missed my connection. i was shocked and couldnt believe when i was offered several choices including 15,000 skymiles, $150 voucher for future travel or i could submit a refund request (which would basically leave me with very little after non refundable cancellation etc...) for the unused portion... the first two were very intriguing and without trying to be a pig, i asked if those were the best options and although i was very tempted for the miles because DL has lately had some 5k mile awards along the east coast, and there could be good value occasionally even without the award chart, i settled on a $150 voucher + 5,000.

i think its dependent on your status (i dont have any) because before i even started, the rep asked me for my skymiles number (even though i credited flight to AS)... DL is really looking to take care on the customer service level - and especially for platinum and diamond (so i've heard)

and yes, i needed passport in sfo and needed to give return date
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: theyankel on March 01, 2017, 01:51:14 PM
$150 travel voucher is account already
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on March 02, 2017, 12:13:22 AM
and yes, i needed passport in sfo and needed to give return date

Can you fill in some more details please? What exactly did they need to see?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: theyankel on March 02, 2017, 12:19:52 AM
Needed passport. It was scanned by the boarding agent. Since I didn't have a return ticket, she asked when I was returning. I said a date a few days later in case she would require me to book it on the spot. In that case, I would have used priceline to book a flight about ten days later (to be safe that it was more than 7 days) and then utilize their amazing cancellation policy once I boarded aircraft.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Welder on March 02, 2017, 12:23:41 AM
Got it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: theyankel on March 05, 2017, 08:53:08 PM
$150 travel voucher is account already
and now so is the 5k. All in all even though it was older aircraft I am quite happy with the way it all worked out
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: srf60 on March 16, 2017, 03:11:19 PM
Any good hidden city for nyc-yul?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on March 16, 2017, 03:14:21 PM
Any good hidden city for nyc-yul?
YYZ? YTO?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: srf60 on March 16, 2017, 03:24:30 PM
YYZ? YTO?
Will try . thx
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on March 16, 2017, 07:21:49 PM
Any good hidden city for nyc-yul?
YYZ? YTO?
Planes usually fly to YYZ on their way somewhere.  YUL tends to be a final destination.  You may not find anything.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on March 16, 2017, 08:24:07 PM
Planes usually fly to YYZ on their way somewhere.  YUL tends to be a final destination.  You may not find anything.
-1
I've flown to YTO with connection in YUL (I did that for a Nexus/Global Entry interview, YYZ didn't have one available on the day I was going there).
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on March 16, 2017, 08:26:09 PM
-1
I've flown to YTO with connection in YUL (I did that for a Nexus/Global Entry interview, YYZ didn't have one available on the day I was going there).
It may have connections, but it isn't a main connection airport. Chances are a lot slimmer of finding a flight that connects there, and is actually cheaper.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on March 16, 2017, 08:30:49 PM
It may have connections, but it isn't a main connection airport. Chances are a lot slimmer of finding a flight that connects there, and is actually cheaper.
In theory you might be right, practically see attached screenshots as an example.

Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on March 16, 2017, 08:33:18 PM
In theory you might be right, practically see attached screenshots as example.
Wadaya know? I sit corrected.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on March 16, 2017, 09:14:23 PM
I know Dan isn't a fan of skiplagged, but I have found it useful sometimes, even coming up with solutions that ita didn't show. In the case of YUL, it does show the YYZ option on high priced dates as a hidden city. (I only checked that now, my previous post was based on personal experience, and I actually meant to write YYZ or YTZ - one of my favorite airports for accessibility).
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yammer on March 17, 2017, 02:37:00 AM
I know Dan isn't a fan of skiplagged, but I have found it useful sometimes, even coming up with solutions that ita didn't show. In the case of YUL, it does show the YYZ option on high priced dates as a hidden city. (I only checked that now, my previous post was based on personal experience, and I actually meant to write YYZ or YTZ - one of my favorite airports for accessibility).
I be used it quite a few times. Recently I found a hidden city that it missed.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on March 17, 2017, 02:45:33 AM
I be used it quite a few times. Recently I found a hidden city that it missed.
Nothing is perfect. That's why one has to check ITA, Skiplagged,  and DDF.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on March 19, 2017, 11:55:14 PM


it was definitely first.
http://cwsi.net/m/delta.htm
X on DL is coach.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: theyankel on April 16, 2017, 03:32:33 PM
is there any way that the wiki airport code lists can be organized alphabetically? i usually copy and past but then it takes a really long time to delete my airport code. i cant ask for a trip from jfk to lax via lax!!! i have encountered this problem on several occasions
thx
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on April 16, 2017, 03:36:14 PM
is there any way that the wiki airport code lists can be organized alphabetically? i usually copy and past but then it takes a really long time to delete my airport code. i cant ask for a trip from jfk to lax via lax!!! i have encountered this problem on several occasions
thx
Not understanding the issue here. There is no such thing as a flight leaving from airport "A" arriving in to the same airport, therefore it will just not show that in the results. Never had an issue with this.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Saybcbd on April 16, 2017, 03:37:02 PM
is there any way that the wiki airport code lists can be organized alphabetically? i usually copy and past but then it takes a really long time to delete my airport code. i cant ask for a trip from jfk to lax via lax!!! i have encountered this problem on several occasions
thx
You don't have to delete your airport code just leave it there. It works on ita by me
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: theyankel on April 16, 2017, 03:38:43 PM
Not understanding the issue here. There is no such thing as a flight leaving from airport "A" arriving in to the same airport, therefore it will just not show that in the results. Never had an issue with this.
Not understanding the issue here. There is no such thing as a flight leaving from airport "A" arriving in to the same airport, therefore it will just not show that in the results. Never had an issue with this.
i will try again but ive encountered errors a few times... maybe i didnt copy and paste correctly
thx
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Luvtotravel on April 25, 2017, 09:43:53 PM
I'm not sure how to edit the wiki but under the Europe list, THF needs to be deleted since that airport is defunct
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on April 25, 2017, 09:54:10 PM
I'm not sure how to edit the wiki but under the Europe list, THF needs to be deleted since that airport is defunct
click on edit
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: oiseli48 on April 26, 2017, 01:04:04 AM
is there any way that the wiki airport code lists can be organized alphabetically? i usually copy and past but then it takes a really long time to delete my airport code. i cant ask for a trip from jfk to lax via lax!!! i have encountered this problem on several occasions
thx

If you want to delete it, press control f (command f on mac) and search for the airport code you want to delete. No need to skim through them all.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zagguru on April 26, 2017, 06:17:23 AM
this has prob been asked but i cant seem to find it (i apologize in advanced!)
I booked a domestic hidden city ticket flight with Delta. Is there any way to check my bags at the gate to the actual destination i want? i.e. tell the agent, ill be spending a few days at my "stop over" and ill rebook a ticket when im ready to leave?
anyone have any luck with this? I imagine its prob mostly YMMV
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: hvaces42 on April 26, 2017, 07:26:38 AM
this has prob been asked but i cant seem to find it (i apologize in advanced!)
I booked a domestic hidden city ticket flight with Delta. Is there any way to check my bags at the gate to the actual destination i want? i.e. tell the agent, ill be spending a few days at my "stop over" and ill rebook a ticket when im ready to leave?
anyone have any luck with this? I imagine its prob mostly YMMV
it probably will get your ticket cancelled.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zagguru on April 26, 2017, 02:31:59 PM
it probably will get your ticket cancelled.

even with a compelling reason?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on April 26, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
this has prob been asked but i cant seem to find it (i apologize in advanced!)
I booked a domestic hidden city ticket flight with Delta. Is there any way to check my bags at the gate to the actual destination i want? i.e. tell the agent, ill be spending a few days at my "stop over" and ill rebook a ticket when im ready to leave?
anyone have any luck with this? I imagine its prob mostly YMMV
once they check the bag it automatically goes to the final destination in most cases begging wont help. They are not stupid so if you are forced to check your bag.... Grab a shopping bad and dump the suitcase
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zagguru on April 27, 2017, 06:09:59 PM
Does hidden city work for domestic award flights?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on April 27, 2017, 06:14:42 PM
Does hidden city work for domestic award flights?
In theory it shouldn't, because each leg has its buckets of availability, and there's not competing with another airline that flies direct for the fare. But in practice I believe there have been rare occasions where a leg is available for award redemption only as part of a multi-leg trip.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on April 27, 2017, 06:16:56 PM
Does hidden city work for domestic award flights?
yes
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yammer on April 27, 2017, 06:21:53 PM
this has prob been asked but i cant seem to find it (i apologize in advanced!)
I booked a domestic hidden city ticket flight with Delta. Is there any way to check my bags at the gate to the actual destination i want? i.e. tell the agent, ill be spending a few days at my "stop over" and ill rebook a ticket when im ready to leave?
anyone have any luck with this? I imagine its prob mostly YMMV
How long is your stop for?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zagguru on April 27, 2017, 06:58:09 PM
How long is your stop for?

2 hours..prob not enough
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on April 27, 2017, 10:03:59 PM
In theory it shouldn't, because each leg has its buckets of availability, and there's not competing with another airline that flies direct for the fare. But in practice I believe there have been rare occasions where a leg is available for award redemption only as part of a multi-leg trip.
+1  I was surprised when it happened, so I checked it over twice.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yammer on April 27, 2017, 10:14:19 PM
2 hours..prob not enough
You need 4 hours minimum to take out your packages
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: cardkid on April 28, 2017, 10:30:51 PM
In theory it shouldn't, because each leg has its buckets of availability, and there's not competing with another airline that flies direct for the fare. But in practice I believe there have been rare occasions where a leg is available for award redemption only as part of a multi-leg trip.
actually, this happens often w/Delta because they used married segment logic. If you live in a hub, this can work out great.

Another useful case where hidden city ticketing can save on domestic award flights is AA's reduced mileage awards. If you can find availability with American (and that's a huge IF) and you have their Citi/Aviator card, then you could theoretically book a reduced mileage saver award that includes a segment from JFK-LAX for a reduced price if the final destination was MRY (and just get off at LAX if that was your final destination). I haven't tried this one myself, but I don't see a reason why it couldn't work
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: theyankel on April 30, 2017, 01:21:14 AM
actually, this happens often w/Delta because they used married segment logic. If you live in a hub, this can work out great.

Another useful case where hidden city ticketing can save on domestic award flights is AA's reduced mileage awards. If you can find availability with American (and that's a huge IF) and you have their Citi/Aviator card, then you could theoretically book a reduced mileage saver award that includes a segment from JFK-LAX for a reduced price if the final destination was MRY (and just get off at LAX if that was your final destination). I haven't tried this one myself, but I don't see a reason why it couldn't work
i just looked for aa saver awards for june and july for almost all the airports on the list thinking of doing a different location type trip and there was basically no availability thereby making the reduced award invalid. even the most random airports because they need to connect in a bigger hub so coming from nyc, doesnt seem like anything at all available for both those months
in theory though, if you found a reduced award, and you booked it one way, i would imagine you can utilize HC but of all the airlines to mess with, i suggest aa at the bottom of the list due to their notoriety of closing accounts and customers forfeiting miles. they have the worst reputation out there thats for sure...and their current mileage availability def reflects that
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on May 07, 2017, 02:30:41 PM
I want to fly STT-CLT
If i do HC STT-CLT-CLE

Can I collect my bags in CLT? in other words is STT considered an international country of origin in this regard
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on May 07, 2017, 02:35:51 PM
I want to fly STT-CLT
If i do HC STT-CLT-CLE

Can I collect my bags in CLT? in other words is STT considered an international country of origin in this regard
Would you be going through customs upon arrival?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PillanSmye on May 07, 2017, 03:34:32 PM
is there any way that the wiki airport code lists can be organized alphabetically? i usually copy and past but then it takes a really long time to delete my airport code. i cant ask for a trip from jfk to lax via lax!!! i have encountered this problem on several occasions
thx

Sure it can. Why don't you just do it and update the wiki?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on May 07, 2017, 07:53:15 PM
Would you be going through customs upon arrival?
I'm not sure, I never flew that route.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on May 07, 2017, 09:36:44 PM
I'm not sure, I never flew that route.
you clear customs in stt so your bags would check through
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eli1571 on May 17, 2017, 01:36:15 PM
any leg i can add on to LON - NYC Round trip, to make it cheaper ? PM welcome
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on May 18, 2017, 09:23:26 PM
sure, use matrix to find a trailing leg.

PMs on this are unwelcome :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on May 18, 2017, 10:01:48 PM
Thanks @elya for removing THF. I noticed it but was on tapa
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: User6669 on May 19, 2017, 12:40:38 AM
is there any way that the wiki airport code lists can be organized alphabetically? i usually copy and past but then it takes a really long time to delete my airport code. i cant ask for a trip from jfk to lax via lax!!! i have encountered this problem on several occasions
thx

Done!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: User6669 on May 19, 2017, 12:48:37 AM
Are spaces an issue in ITA?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on May 19, 2017, 01:34:40 AM
Done!
Cool, thanks!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on May 19, 2017, 01:36:31 AM
Are spaces an issue in ITA?
You can have issues if you have a space in the middle of a code.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: User6669 on May 19, 2017, 04:23:09 AM
You can have issues if you have a space in the middle of a code.

So why are there spaces in the wiki?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Z56 on May 19, 2017, 05:11:21 AM
Done!

Thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Josef.koney on May 21, 2017, 12:44:46 AM
If I'm going from yyz to chi (hidden city) what would i say to at customs? Chi or the real final destination?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on May 21, 2017, 12:48:03 AM
If I'm going from yyz to chi (hidden city) what would i say to at customs? Chi or the real final destination?
Final destination.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Josef.koney on May 21, 2017, 12:49:17 AM
Final destination.
Thanks for quick response If they ask where I'm staying what do I say?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on May 21, 2017, 12:51:41 AM
Thanks for quick response If they ask where I'm staying what do I say?
Either make up a place, or say you haven't decided yet.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Josef.koney on May 21, 2017, 12:59:55 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: motty on May 21, 2017, 07:48:58 PM
If someone really screws up and checks their bag on a HC, can the airline hold your luggage ransom until you pay the fare difference?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 21, 2017, 08:02:39 PM
If someone really screws up and checks their bag on a HC, can the airline hold your luggage ransom until you pay the fare difference?
Try it and let us know

Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on May 21, 2017, 08:06:53 PM
Lol they won't hold it hostage it will just go to your supposed destination
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: motty on May 21, 2017, 08:09:34 PM
Try it and let us know


Funny you should ask...I did and I'm trying to figure out what to do. Right now baggage services is saying I won't get my bag till I pay the difference in fare. Didn't think they could do that.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: motty on May 21, 2017, 08:12:38 PM
First I went to baggage services and asked for my bag, they said its going to the final dest unless you pay the difference, then I call reservations and cancel my second leg, then i go back to baggage service, they say too bad even though you cancelled it's still under contract to go to the final dest
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: motty on May 21, 2017, 08:16:56 PM
so I call baggage resolution, they trace the bag and say its being held in the connection city, then they call the baggage desk for me and the baggage desk tells them I need to come down to them (which I've already done and was told that my bag will end up at dest)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on May 21, 2017, 08:18:15 PM
First I went to baggage services and asked for my bag, they said its going to the final dest unless you pay the difference, then I call reservations and cancel my second leg, then i go back to baggage service, they say too bad even though you cancelled it's still under contract to go to the final dest
ouch!
If you're really stuck, maybe someone can get it for you from the FD and ship it to you.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Freddie on May 21, 2017, 08:19:38 PM
Is this a surprise to anyone?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: motty on May 21, 2017, 08:21:31 PM
ouch!
If you're really stuck, maybe someone can get it for you from the FD and ship it to you.

except that they're lying at the baggage desk, it's actually just being held there since I cancelled my second leg
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on May 21, 2017, 08:29:23 PM

except that they're lying at the baggage desk, it's actually just being held there since I cancelled my second leg
They will not send a bag on a plane you are not on. I believe it's FAA policy.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: motty on May 21, 2017, 08:34:12 PM
They will not send a bag on a plane you are not on. I believe it's FAA policy.
you're right, but they're not giving it to me either
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 21, 2017, 08:42:37 PM
They will not send a bag on a plane you are not on. I believe it's FAA policy.
Yes they will on domestic flights
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on May 21, 2017, 08:44:56 PM
Will waiting until next shift help?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on May 21, 2017, 08:51:00 PM
Wow people will never learn. Do you read the rules of hidden city before you do one?? Why do you feel the need to screw yourself over and ruin this HC and possibly others for everyone else??
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on May 21, 2017, 09:01:04 PM
They will not send a bag on a plane you are not on. I believe it's FAA policy.

Any time your bag misses its connection it gets sent onto a different flight...occasionally can be sent even before you if you have a long layover.
Wow people will never learn. Do you read the rules of hidden city before you do one?? Why do you feel the need to screw yourself over and ruin this HC and possibly others for everyone else??

HC's would be pretty hard to kill, same as FD's - he would be raising awareness though.


Yes they will on domestic flights

Officially or are they just less lax about it?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: motty on May 21, 2017, 09:04:11 PM
Do u really think I did it on purpose?  I did everything possible to not check it, I told them everything I could think of (never had any issue whatsoever with this bag either)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on May 21, 2017, 09:24:51 PM
Do u really think I did it on purpose?  I did everything possible to not check it, I told them everything I could think of (never had any issue whatsoever with this bag either)
Why did you have to check it?
What airline is this?

A guy I know did this on United via EWR. they also tried holding it Ransom at EWR

I would call the police straight up.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: motty on May 21, 2017, 09:42:28 PM
Why did you have to check it?
What airline is this?

A guy I know did this on United via EWR. they also tried holding it Ransom at EWR

I would call the police straight up.
Yup, this is United i'm dealing with. The gate agent at EWR made me check it bec "it's a full flight and this bag won't fit anyway." I've never had any issues with this bag and once I got on the plane there were rows and rows of empty overhead. I ran back to the plane entrance and grabbed my bag, the flight attendant at the entrance saw me and said "if it already has a checked tag on it and doesn't make it to the bottom of the plane, we get fined, you get fined, and the plane gets held up for security reasons, sorry for the gate agent telling everyone theres no space when there really is, but it's too late now"
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 1356Abe on May 21, 2017, 09:44:30 PM
Wow people will never learn. Do you read the rules of hidden city before you do one?? Why do you feel the need to screw yourself over and ruin this HC and possibly others for everyone else??
It's really hard to "screw up" hidden city, there is an app made for booking hidden city for crying out loud
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on May 21, 2017, 09:47:06 PM
Yup, this is United i'm dealing with. The gate agent at EWR made me check it bec "it's a full flight and this bag won't fit anyway." I've never had any issues with this bag and once I got on the plane there were rows and rows of empty overhead. I ran back to the plane entrance and grabbed my bag, the flight attendant at the entrance saw me and said "if it already has a checked tag on it and doesn't make it to the bottom of the plane, we get fined, you get fined, and the plane gets held up for security reasons, sorry for the gate agent telling everyone theres no space when there really is, but it's too late now"
So what are you doing now you left the airport without your bag?
Le t us know what happens in the end
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: motty on May 21, 2017, 09:50:26 PM
So what are you doing now you left the airport without your bag?
Le t us know what happens in the end
nothing in there that i need urgently, bh, prob gonna wait for the next shift and call them

will do
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on May 21, 2017, 09:55:06 PM
nothing in there that i need urgently, bh, prob gonna wait for the next shift and call them

will do
Which airport are they holding the bag at?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: motty on May 21, 2017, 09:55:31 PM
Which airport are they holding the bag at?
cle
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Freddie on May 21, 2017, 10:31:25 PM
cle

Perfect! @Dan, go pick it up for him!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on May 21, 2017, 10:35:57 PM
hc thru cle? What route if i may ask?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: motty on May 21, 2017, 10:39:17 PM
mke
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: elya on May 22, 2017, 12:40:29 AM
I booked a award flight MAD-JFK and had to book the connection VCE-MAD separately as it wasnt available for miles.
Any issues booking with a HC on the first leg if they both IB flights or they will make issues if they see the same name on  2 tickets going to different destinations?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on May 22, 2017, 01:57:38 AM
sure, use matrix to find a trailing leg.

PMs on this are unwelcome :)
Just curious for the reason behind no PMs.
Is it because you dont have any specific ones that well help him? Or do you think for some reason that it will die shortly after?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eli1571 on May 22, 2017, 04:54:37 AM
sure, use matrix to find a trailing leg.

PMs on this are unwelcome :)
Not sure how I would use matrix to find one, won't I have to search every destination separately ? (I'm Not good at hc and matrix)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on May 22, 2017, 05:07:12 AM
Not sure how I would use matrix to find one, won't I have to search every destination separately ? (I'm Not good at hc and matrix)
Wiki, **********. Did you read it?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eli1571 on May 22, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
Wiki, **********. Did you read it?
Yes, doesn't really help on international flights
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: elya on May 22, 2017, 01:57:37 PM
Yes, doesn't really help on international flights
Sure does.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eli1571 on May 22, 2017, 02:22:13 PM
Sure does.
Well would you mind explaining me how I'd do it ?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on May 22, 2017, 02:23:39 PM
Well would you mind explaining me how I'd do it ?
There is a link in the wiki. Read through it.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eli1571 on May 22, 2017, 02:26:36 PM
There is a link in the wiki. Read through it.
Thanx for your help, there's a post above which seems like you didn't read.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on May 22, 2017, 02:30:53 PM
Thanx for your help, there's a post above which seems like you didn't read.
So you are telling me, you read through this, http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/35313 and you still have questions?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eli1571 on May 22, 2017, 02:33:38 PM
So you are telling me, you read through this, http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/35313 and you still have questions?
Yes.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on May 22, 2017, 02:34:02 PM
Yes.
What's your question?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Dan on May 22, 2017, 02:34:29 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/76632
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on May 22, 2017, 02:34:40 PM
Yes.
Then you will need to elaborate, because unless you're misunderstanding what's written, I'm not sure I can explain it better
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on May 22, 2017, 02:36:10 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/76632
I'm on Tapa, can someone add this to the wiki? If not I'll do it later.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on May 22, 2017, 02:37:13 PM
I'm on Tapa, can someone add this to the wiki? If not I'll do it later.
Dan beat you to it  :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eli1571 on May 22, 2017, 02:37:27 PM
Seems like you're all determined that its not possible to have questions after reading the article, I'll read it again and get back to you guys, hope I'll still vey helpful answers
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on May 22, 2017, 02:41:53 PM
Seems like you're all determined that its not possible to have questions after reading the article, I'll read it again and get back to you guys, hope I'll still vey helpful answers
The way I interpreted your  responses, it seemed to me you did not read through it, which is why I asked if you did. Once you replied to the affirmative, both myself and others asked you to specify your question. I'd be more than happy to answer to the best of my ability.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: AsherO on May 23, 2017, 01:04:09 AM
I would call the police straight up.

Might or might not get your bag back this way, but will definitely earn you a blacklist.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eli1571 on May 23, 2017, 05:17:09 AM
What's your question?
The way I interpreted your  responses, it seemed to me you did not read through it, which is why I asked if you did. Once you replied to the affirmative, both myself and others asked you to specify your question. I'd be more than happy to answer to the best of my ability.
i just reread it, isnt the best way to check for a HC by searching as a one way, if so problem is that on international flights one way is much more expensive then a R''t so doesnt reflect proper prices, or maybe im just totally off ?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on May 23, 2017, 06:06:53 AM
i just reread it, isnt the best way to check for a HC by searching as a one way, if so problem is that on international flights one way is much more expensive then a R''t so doesnt reflect proper prices, or maybe im just totally off ?
Add the HC at the end of the RT.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a mirrer on May 23, 2017, 06:07:43 AM
i just reread it, isnt the best way to check for a HC by searching as a one way, if so problem is that on international flights one way is much more expensive then a R''t so doesnt reflect proper prices, or maybe im just totally off ?
so do it as a multi-city leg 1 for example jfk-tlv leg 2 tlv-hc with jfk in the advanced routing code
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Z56 on May 23, 2017, 07:10:19 AM
so do it as a multi-city leg 1 for example jfk-tlv leg 2 tlv-hc with jfk in the advanced routing code

ya. trying with ita and search results come up with an error
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: motty on May 23, 2017, 03:23:21 PM
So what are you doing now you left the airport without your bag?
Le t us know what happens in the end
well next day I called UA bag resolution svcs, they tell me my bags at the final dest, I tell them I need it at via point, they're fine with that, put in a request. every few hours I call back to find out when it gets scanned onto the plane, then I just pick it up on the carousel along with everyone else. The end.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: aygart on May 23, 2017, 03:26:14 PM
well next day I called UA bag resolution svcs, they tell me my bags at the final dest, I tell them I need it at via point, they're fine with that, put in a request. every few hours I call back to find out when it gets scanned onto the plane, then I just pick it up on the carousel along with everyone else. The end.
Nice
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on May 24, 2017, 08:59:43 PM
Just curious for the reason behind no PMs.
Is it because you dont have any specific ones that well help him? Or do you think for some reason that it will die shortly after?
I think the subsequent comments explained why i didn't want a PM.
Its pretty easy to put in the codes yourself and play around on matrix to see if something would help, no need for my time to be wasted.
There's no secret hidden city that I'm withholding
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: theyankel on May 25, 2017, 09:44:29 PM
http://cwsi.net/m/delta.htm
X on DL is coach.
maybe business??? i am sure i flew in the front...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: theyankel on May 25, 2017, 09:47:37 PM
Would you be going through customs upon arrival?
no customs
but you clear in stt
if traveling with children, make sure to bring birth certificate or other form of ID
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: theyankel on May 25, 2017, 09:48:43 PM
Done!
thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: gozalim on June 06, 2017, 04:37:44 PM
Yes you need a passport, though no personal experience, but have heard stories where boarding was denied due to it.
even with an overnight connection?
(JFK-LAX-YVR)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: NTorch on June 08, 2017, 12:28:03 PM
Quote
so do it as a multi-city leg 1 for example jfk-tlv leg 2 tlv-hc with jfk in the advanced routing code

We just did it in January although I did not have the benefit of knowledge of the matrix. Still it dropped the price of the RT flight by 130 per person (5 tickets).

EWR-TLV (1)
TLV-EWR-BOS (2)

It was still working when I tried it for an August flight but in the end I got a better deal on a R/T NS from JFK without needing the HC.

PM for details
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on June 25, 2017, 11:58:28 PM
Any recent DP's on hidden city from TLV - EWR -......
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on June 25, 2017, 11:59:12 PM
Any recent DP's on hidden city from TLV - EWR -......
What exactly is it that you want to know?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on June 26, 2017, 12:40:09 AM
What exactly is it that you want to know?
Recent confirmed success or failures
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on June 30, 2017, 09:38:52 AM
does the concept of hidden city work on southwest
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: GAM Z. on June 30, 2017, 09:59:27 AM
does the concept of hidden city work on southwest
Ive heard of people doing it.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on June 30, 2017, 05:41:48 PM
Recent confirmed success or failures
success, how would you 'fail'?

does the concept of hidden city work on southwest
Yes
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: jstu on July 03, 2017, 01:08:34 AM
I flew a hidden city flight last week but did not include my ff#, are there any risks associated with requesting mileage credit?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: hide4 on July 03, 2017, 07:35:50 AM
I flew a hidden city flight last week but did not include my ff#, are there any risks associated with requesting mileage credit?
If you already flew what can be the risk?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on July 03, 2017, 07:42:48 AM
If you already flew what can be the risk?
Them shutting down your milage account
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: hide4 on July 03, 2017, 07:54:27 AM
Them shutting down your milage account
For missing your flight?  :P
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: New Yorker on July 10, 2017, 06:57:04 PM
better to book a HC on United or Priceline?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on July 10, 2017, 07:10:13 PM
better to book a HC on United or Priceline?

What difference does it make?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on July 10, 2017, 07:15:36 PM
PL has good cancelation on last minute tix.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: New Yorker on July 10, 2017, 07:18:31 PM
What difference does it make?

So you're saying it doesn't make a difference

Also, is it more risky for a family with children and infant?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on July 10, 2017, 07:36:15 PM
the bigger tha group, more chances that they may notice. but what are you worried aboit? how often are you doing this?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: New Yorker on July 10, 2017, 09:08:24 PM
the bigger tha group, more chances that they may notice. but what are you worried aboit? how often are you doing this?

I'll have to call in to add infant
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: elya on July 11, 2017, 02:40:46 AM
I'll have to call in to add infant
And therefore? This is not a 3X it's HC for goodness sake, they have no reason to believe your not taking the extra leg until you actually don't.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on July 28, 2017, 02:16:50 PM
If I go from US-NYC-Canada will I be able to check luggage or will they check it straight through to canada?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: elya on July 28, 2017, 02:32:05 PM
If I go from US-NYC-Canada will I be able to check luggage or will they check it straight through to canada?
Will go all the way through.
Only comes out in NYC if you have to clear customs.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on August 08, 2017, 02:39:35 AM
https://matrix.itasoftware.com/#view-flights:research=YTOABQ;out=2017-08-08;stay=0

There quoting me some great prices,but I can't seem to find any of these, I tried Priceline and orbitz,they show these flights but with $300 more, any other sites to search on which usually matches to what ita Shows?
  Thanks

Eta, seem to have figured it out I accidently unchecked this box, Only show flights and prices with available seats.
It seems they are pretty accurate when searching.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: moisheyb on August 08, 2017, 02:41:17 AM
https://matrix.itasoftware.com/#view-flights:research=YTOABQ;out=2017-08-08;stay=0

There quoting me some great prices,but I can't seem to find any of these, I tried Priceline and orbitz,they show these flights but with $300 more, any other sites to search on which usually matches to what ita Shows?
  Thanks

Can't pull up your link.
Did you try bookwithmatrix?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on August 08, 2017, 02:49:54 AM
Can't pull up your link.
Did you try bookwithmatrix?
was from yto to nyc with the plane heading any of the other us states..
For the 8th of August. (Anyway to pull a link from what you searched on matric ita ?)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: moisheyb on August 08, 2017, 02:55:02 AM
was from yto to nyc with the plane heading any of the other us states..
For the 8th of August. (Anyway to pull a link from what you searched on matric ita ?)

Idk.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on August 08, 2017, 02:56:39 AM
Can't pull up your link.
Did you try bookwithmatrix?
Never tried that site pretty cool, but quoting me 5 times the price of ita.


Toronto (YYZ) to Burlington (BTV) — Tue, Aug 8
Missing this connection may lead to significant delays
   
Toronto (YYZ) to New York (LGA) — Tue, Aug 8
Delta 7146
Dep: 7:30 pm
Arr: 9:00 pm
1h 30m
Boeing 737
Economy (X)
OPERATED BY WESTJET
Layover in LGA
0h 55m
   
New York (LGA) to Burlington (BTV) — Tue, Aug 8
Delta 3281
Dep: 9:55 pm
Arr: 11:14 pm
1h 19m
Canadair RJ 900
Economy (X)
OPERATED BY ENDEAVOR AIR DBA DELTA CONNECTION
Mileage
612 total miles
CO2 Emissions
160 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
Toronto Lester B. Pearson International (YYZ)
Burlington International (BTV)
New York LaGuardia (LGA)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
$141.86
Total cost for 1 passenger
$141.86
How to buy this ticket
Tickets cannot be purchased directly from ITA Software.
Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare for 1 adult
Fare 1: Carrier DL XA0SA0ML YTO to BTV (rules)
Passenger type ADT, one-way fare, booking code X
Covers YYZ-LGA (Economy), LGA-BTV (Economy)
$66.44
Canadian Goods and Services Tax (XG)
$3.80
US September 11th Security Fee (AY)
$5.60
USDA APHIS Fee (XA)
$3.96
US Immigration Fee (XY)
$7.00
US Customs Fee (YC)
$5.50
Toronto Airport Improvement Fee (SQ)
$19.80
Canadian Harmonized Sales Tax (ON) (RC)
$2.60
US International Arrival Tax (US)
$18.00
Canadian Air Travelers Security Charge (CA)
$9.60
Subtotal per passenger
$141.86
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal For 1 adult
$141.86
This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
YTO DL X/NYC DL BTV 84.00XA0SA0ML CAD 84.00 END XT 9.60CA 2.60RC 19.80SQ 3.80XG 5.50YC 7.00XY 3.96XA 18.00US 5.60AY
Total Airfare & Taxes
$141.86


What do they mean by this?
Missing this connection may lead to significant delays
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on August 08, 2017, 02:57:11 AM
Idk.
thanks though.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on August 08, 2017, 09:07:20 AM
Quote from: myi link=topic=45539.msg1785226#msg1785226 date=
What do they mean by this?[b
Missing this connection may lead to significant delays[/b]
IDK, but I would imagine it means that the next flight LGA-BTV is significantly later.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: oiseli48 on August 11, 2017, 01:07:30 PM
IDK, but I would imagine it means that the next flight LGA-BTV is significantly later.

Well, being that the flight is 9:55 pm, it would seem that you'd have to wait overnight in NY for another flight to BTV. That's a significant delay.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on August 11, 2017, 02:23:37 PM
Well, being that the flight is 9:55 pm, it would seem that you'd have to wait overnight in NY for another flight to BTV. That's a significant delay.
+1
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: buckonine on October 17, 2017, 01:35:04 PM
Can I do a Hidden City Ticket from the US to Canada?

Specifically, I'd like to buy a ticket Cleveland > Toronto > Montreal.

Does anyone have an experience with this?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: travel agent on October 17, 2017, 01:48:13 PM
should be no problem, you will get your bag in YYZ
Title: Hidden city ticketing
Post by: Markemark on October 31, 2017, 06:41:41 PM
I have done this In the past.

I am now married with a kid is still safe to do it international?
For example ewr to Tlv then Tlv to bos?
Don't want to get messed over.
Any feedback would help :)
Title: Re: Hidden city ticketing
Post by: ckmk47 on October 31, 2017, 07:12:19 PM
(There is a thread about this topic with the same name- http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=45539.0
search first. read the info easily available. (read some more). then ask in the appropriate thread. No need to reinvent the wheel.)



Landing in EWR from TLV will require you and the whole family to get your luggage and go through customs.  At that point a traveler can go to another gate for a connecting flight to travel further.  Or not.   
Title: Re: Hidden city ticketing
Post by: Z56 on October 31, 2017, 07:23:40 PM
He is married he has no time to read thru appropriate threads :)
Title: Re: Hidden city ticketing
Post by: ludmila on October 31, 2017, 07:25:34 PM
I have done this In the past.

I am now married with a kid is still safe to do it international?
For example ewr to Tlv then Tlv to bos?
Don't want to get messed over.
Any feedback would help :)
Looks good to me, also read the thread as suggested .
Title: Re: Hidden city ticketing
Post by: jose34 on November 01, 2017, 04:26:39 PM
Seems pretty simple. The hidden city  ideas where I would think you would get messed over if you have multiple tickets lets say from TLV - YYZ - EWR and dont take the EWR part.

Or another hidden city is TLV - JFK on December 1 & YYZ - EWR on January 24 but this you just don't take.

Correct if I wrong about "The hidden city  ideas where I would think you would get messed over if you have multiple tickets".
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigj92 on November 01, 2017, 07:21:55 PM
Hmm, is matrix ita down? i was searching for a trip from bhm to msp on nov 6th. Ita matrix is telling me there is nothing, no flights found. In-fact i found i found a hidden city ticket, bhm to msp to rst on nov. 6th. Can somebody else replicate this, please?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on November 01, 2017, 08:30:29 PM
Hmm, is matrix ita down? i was searching for a trip from bhm to msp on nov 6th. Ita matrix is telling me there is nothing, no flights found. In-fact i found i found a hidden city ticket, bhm to msp to rst on nov. 6th. Can somebody else replicate this, please?
Matrix is working fine for me, didn't try your itin though.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: EJB on November 01, 2017, 08:31:29 PM
Matrix is working fine for me, didn't try your itin though.

Everyone’s searching for flights from NZ 😂
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on November 01, 2017, 08:31:47 PM
Everyone’s searching for flights from NZ
Lol
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bigj92 on November 01, 2017, 09:30:14 PM
Baaha!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on November 14, 2017, 01:36:30 PM
Can hidden city be done with a passenger who needs a wheelchair?

How?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: normathej on December 05, 2017, 07:26:12 PM
EWR-TLV, TLV-EWR-BOS.  Seems from prior posts that my luggage will have to be picked up in EWR to go through customs, and i can do whatever i want after that, but just want to make sure... Is this correct?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mendyt on December 05, 2017, 07:33:30 PM
EWR-TLV, TLV-EWR-BOS.  Seems from prior posts that my luggage will have to be picked up in EWR to go through customs, and i can do whatever i want after that, but just want to make sure... Is this correct?
Correct
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on December 05, 2017, 07:33:44 PM
EWR-TLV, TLV-EWR-BOS.  Seems from prior posts that my luggage will have to be picked up in EWR to go through customs, and i can do whatever i want after that, but just want to make sure... Is this correct?
yes
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: normathej on December 05, 2017, 10:01:49 PM
EWR-TLV, TLV-EWR-BOS.  Seems from prior posts that my luggage will have to be picked up in EWR to go through customs, and i can do whatever i want after that, but just want to make sure... Is this correct?

And it's not recommended to put a frequent flyer number in for such a reservation?  or just one that is with a different airline than the last leg?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ludmila on December 05, 2017, 10:03:48 PM
EWR-TLV, TLV-EWR-BOS.  Seems from prior posts that my luggage will have to be picked up in EWR to go through customs, and i can do whatever i want after that, but just want to make sure... Is this correct?
Done same, pick up luggage and skip last leg, when I did this I got a call from the airline asking why i missed last leg, i said i got sick and could not fly that day, and decided to stay in EWR with my brother for a while.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ludmila on December 05, 2017, 10:04:44 PM
And it's not recommended to put a frequent flyer number in for such a reservation?  or just one that is with a different airline than the last leg?
Both will work, I just skip putting any FF numbers.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: normathej on December 05, 2017, 10:19:03 PM
Both will work, I just skip putting any FF numbers.

Why do you skip, then?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a mirrer on December 06, 2017, 08:09:10 AM
EWR-TLV, TLV-EWR-BOS.  Seems from prior posts that my luggage will have to be picked up in EWR to go through customs, and i can do whatever i want after that, but just want to make sure... Is this correct?
United in ben gurion has been recently cracking down on BOS so you need to be very firm that you are going to BOS
I have 2 friends who were forced to pay $300 in the airport
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chaimdasap on December 06, 2017, 08:26:41 AM
United in ben gurion has been recently cracking down on BOS so you need to be very firm that you are going to BOS
I have 2 friends who were forced to pay $300 in the airport
how can they force them to pay $300? they cant prove that your not going to continue to BOS? so interesting...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a mirrer on December 06, 2017, 08:30:00 AM
how can they force them to pay $300? they cant prove that your not going to continue to BOS? so interesting...
united told them "you're lying and not planning on going to Boston and if you dont pay you won't get onto this flight" my friends tried arguing but united just stood their ground and made them pay
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: normathej on December 06, 2017, 09:16:14 AM
united told them "you're lying and not planning on going to Boston and if you dont pay you won't get onto this flight" my friends tried arguing but united just stood their ground and made them pay

Is it against their contract of carriage, or something?  I'm curious as to how they could force your hand here.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on December 06, 2017, 10:01:38 AM
united told them "you're lying and not planning on going to Boston and if you dont pay you won't get onto this flight" my friends tried arguing but united just stood their ground and made them pay
They must've said somethig about not going to BOS. On every flight there are passengers that take a connecting flight from EWR, i'ts a normal thing...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yhaller14 on December 06, 2017, 10:01:39 AM
United in ben gurion has been recently cracking down on BOS so you need to be very firm that you are going to BOS
I have 2 friends who were forced to pay $300 in the airport
Had a bunch of people with issues, only at night tho so I just stopped doing Boston and it's usually not the cheapest
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on December 06, 2017, 10:05:05 AM
Had a bunch of people with issues, only at night tho so I just stopped doing Boston and it's usually not the cheapest
Depends which day in the week.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yhaller14 on December 06, 2017, 10:05:54 AM
Depends which day in the week.
Just about every but only United, didn't hear any issues doing it with delta
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: normathej on December 06, 2017, 10:11:08 AM
Had a bunch of people with issues, only at night tho so I just stopped doing Boston and it's usually not the cheapest

It's the same price for a number of destination airports, none are cheaper.  Should i pick a different airport, is BOS suspicious to united?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on December 06, 2017, 10:11:53 AM
Just about every but only United, didn't hear any issues doing it with delta
I meant that there are cheaper flights than BOS but depends which day in the week.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yhaller14 on December 06, 2017, 10:15:59 AM
It's the same price for a number of destination airports, none are cheaper.  Should i pick a different airport, is BOS suspicious to united?
I'm sure some are cheaper, just take the 1130am flight and you'll beer fine
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: normathej on December 06, 2017, 10:16:50 AM
I'm sure some are cheaper, just take the 1130am flight and you'll beer fine

Need the night flight, and no, none are cheaper.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yhaller14 on December 06, 2017, 10:26:48 AM
Need the night flight, and no, none are cheaper.
Dates?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: normathej on December 06, 2017, 10:30:45 AM
Dates?

1/20-1/25
only searched top 100 us airports
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yhaller14 on December 06, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
1/20-1/25
only searched top 100 us airports
Expensive dates cheapest I see is a grand
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a mirrer on December 06, 2017, 12:11:13 PM
They must've said somethig about not going to BOS. On every flight there are passengers that take a connecting flight from EWR, i'ts a normal thing...
on every flight there are people who start in ny but are returning to bos and it’s just a coincidence that it’s cheaper   :P
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ad120 on December 07, 2017, 03:18:34 AM
united told them "you're lying and not planning on going to Boston and if you dont pay you won't get onto this flight" my friends tried arguing but united just stood their ground and made them pay
Does that warrant a DOT complaint?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: nafnaf12 on December 07, 2017, 04:50:19 AM
Just about every but only United, didn't hear any issues doing it with delta
I heard it a specific manager who's the PITA. maybe someone can get a hold of his schedule lol
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a mirrer on December 07, 2017, 06:13:26 AM
I guess we know his schedule
I heard it a specific manager who's the PITA. maybe someone can get a hold of his schedule lol
I guess we know his schedule
Had a bunch of people with issues, only at night tho so I just stopped doing Boston and it's usually not the cheapest
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on December 07, 2017, 06:35:24 AM
it's not possible to check in online?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chaimdasap on December 07, 2017, 06:51:54 AM
it's not possible to check in online?
thats only if youre not traveling with bags.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ludmila on December 07, 2017, 01:26:42 PM
thats only if youre not traveling with bags.
Whenever I use hidden city ticketing I always go without check in bags.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on December 07, 2017, 01:31:11 PM
Whenever I use hidden city ticketing I always go without check in bags.
Why not check in bags and make sure at the counter that the bags would be checked all the way through to BOS. As in "can't you do it like ELAL that checks my bags straight to BOS?" (if you can't beat them, join them).
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 1356Abe on December 07, 2017, 01:35:18 PM
Ewr - tlv - ord is also an issue these days?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on December 07, 2017, 01:50:59 PM
Ewr - tlv - ord is also an issue these days?
You really think it would be an issue if at check in time you told them "please make sure my bags are checked all the way through to ..."?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 1356Abe on December 07, 2017, 02:07:01 PM
You really think it would be an issue if at check in time you told them "please make sure my bags are checked all the way through to ..."?
I would not thing bos would be an issue either. Did it numerous times. No issue....  but apparently things are changing, and I have 2 tickets booked next week to ord.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: normathej on December 07, 2017, 02:14:38 PM
I would not thing bos would be an issue either. Did it numerous times. No issue....  but apparently things are changing, and I have 2 tickets booked next week to ord.

Let us know how it goes, please!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on December 07, 2017, 04:34:27 PM
I would not thing bos would be an issue either. Did it numerous times. No issue....  but apparently things are changing, and I have 2 tickets booked next week to ord.
Ask them at check in if the rumor that UA will will start a TLV-ORD route soon is true, you hate having to claim the luggage at EWR and recheck it.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yelped on December 07, 2017, 04:55:53 PM
Ask them at check in if the rumor that UA will will start a TLV-ORD route soon is true, you hate having to claim the luggage at EWR and recheck it.
I should have you on speed dial when I'm in a pinch.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on December 08, 2017, 04:41:11 AM
Imo someone should call their bluff, continue to Boston after paying the 300 and then put this guy in his place.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 08, 2017, 05:07:00 AM
Imo someone should call their bluff, continue to Boston after paying the 300 and then put this guy in his place.
+1
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 08, 2017, 05:24:10 AM
Yup, this is United i'm dealing with. The gate agent at EWR made me check it bec "it's a full flight and this bag won't fit anyway." I've never had any issues with this bag and once I got on the plane there were rows and rows of empty overhead. I ran back to the plane entrance and grabbed my bag, the flight attendant at the entrance saw me and said "if it already has a checked tag on it and doesn't make it to the bottom of the plane, we get fined, you get fined, and the plane gets held up for security reasons, sorry for the gate agent telling everyone theres no space when there really is, but it's too late now"

I know this is old but as a DP I had this type of thing once going from ZRH to TLV and on the way to the door of the plane another Bachur saw me and said that if you don’t want to check it in (and wait for your luggage when we land) then just peel off the tag and no one will ever know (that’s what I did when no one was looking) he claimed that he does this all the time and it works just fine
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on December 08, 2017, 08:25:35 AM
I know this is old but as a DP I had this type of thing once going from ZRH to TLV and on the way to the door of the plane another Bachur saw me and said that if you don’t want to check it in (and wait for your luggage when we land) then just peel off the tag and no one will ever know (that’s what I did when no one was looking) he claimed that he does this all the time and it works just fine
Of course it works just fine but one time the agent started walking with me to the door so I quickly turned around and said I forgot something and gave my bag to someone else...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 10, 2017, 02:48:51 AM
Is the any good HC for NYC CDG RT or PHL CDG RT for this weekend? (Regular prices are skyrocketing)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yhaller14 on December 10, 2017, 03:05:06 AM
Is the any good HC for NYC CDG or PHL CDG for this weekend? (Regular prices are skyrocketing)
Try amm or mxp, idk if they'll be better but sometimes it's ok
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 10, 2017, 03:08:51 AM
Try amm or mxp, idk if they'll be better but sometimes it's ok
Sorry I meant RT

Tickets are almost 2K
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Ephraimh on December 10, 2017, 04:12:34 AM
Ask them at check in if the rumor that UA will will start a TLV-ORD route soon is true, you hate having to claim the luggage at EWR and recheck it.
I’m coming back with the Tuesday 11:10 pm TLV-EWR-ORD flight, I’m going to use your thing and let you know how it goes lol, I was thinking of creating an ORD car rental reservation and show them the confirmation, but this looks easier and better
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on December 10, 2017, 09:08:59 AM

I’m coming back with the Tuesday 11:10 pm TLV-EWR-ORD flight, I’m going to use your thing and let you know how it goes lol, I was thinking of creating an ORD car rental reservation and show them the confirmation, but this looks easier and better
We are in suspense, waiting to hear your experience.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on December 10, 2017, 09:48:07 AM
I’m coming back with the Tuesday 11:10 pm TLV-EWR-ORD flight, I’m going to use your thing and let you know how it goes lol, I was thinking of creating an ORD car rental reservation and show them the confirmation, but this looks easier and better
It takes 2 minutes to make a car rental reservation, and you don’t even need to remember to cancel it later.
Just in case..
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Ephraimh on December 10, 2017, 10:07:49 AM
It takes 2 minutes to make a car rental reservation, and you don’t even need to remember to cancel it later.
Just in case..
I know that was plan A, plan B doesn’t even take 2 minutes ..
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on December 10, 2017, 11:04:58 AM
I know that was plan A, plan B doesn’t even take 2 minutes ..
But if everyone starts using my proposed lines (especially if it's verbatim), or if someone is reading this thread, you might need to resort to plan A, or possibly plan C.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Ephraimh on December 10, 2017, 11:21:50 AM
But if everyone starts using my proposed lines (especially if it's verbatim), or if someone is reading this thread, you might need to resort to plan A, or possibly plan C.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on December 10, 2017, 05:09:34 PM
Why not check in bags and make sure at the counter that the bags would be checked all the way through to BOS. As in "can't you do it like ELAL that checks my bags straight to BOS?" (if you can't beat them, join them).
will your luggage get stopped at ewr or jfk? Or will it really get booked through? I assume not otherwise you wouldn't suggest that idea?

Ask them at check in if the rumor that UA will will start a TLV-ORD route soon is true, you hate having to claim the luggage at EWR and recheck it.
Lol pretty clever idea.

Imo someone should call their bluff, continue to Boston after paying the 300 and then put this guy in his place.
Lol.
I just don't buy the story that they can force you to pay 300.
 But cute idea to throw back at them.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yhaller14 on December 10, 2017, 05:34:44 PM


I just don't buy the story that they can force you to pay 300.
 But cute idea to throw back at them.

I love how you think facts are a matter of opinion
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on December 10, 2017, 06:16:30 PM

I love how you think facts are a matter of opinion
Meaning I don't believe that he tried boarding the plane and got stopped without saying anything.
 Not saying it can't happen just hard to believe the story.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yhaller14 on December 10, 2017, 06:20:12 PM
Meaning I don't believe that he tried boarding the plane and got stopped without saying anything.
 Not saying it can't happen just hard to believe the story.
Happened to one of my pax also
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: brodes18 on December 10, 2017, 11:12:56 PM
Happened to one of my pax also
I'd love a better back story here. I too can't imagine showing up to the airport and being told I can't board since I "will" miss a flight in the US. There is more to this.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yhaller14 on December 10, 2017, 11:16:38 PM
I'd love a better back story here. I too can't imagine showing up to the airport and being told I can't board since I "will" miss a flight in the US. There is more to this.
Your making it sound like it happens once in a while where peoples tix originate in ewr and they end up flying to other destinations, and always alot of people flying to same place that isn't their origin........
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: brodes18 on December 10, 2017, 11:23:22 PM
Your making it sound like it happens once in a while where peoples tix originate in ewr and they end up flying to other destinations, and always alot of people flying to same place that isn't their origin........
Even if it happens all the time, they still can't stop.you from boarding because they suspect that you will do it when you land.

Now if the passenger was asked about it and didn't give a good (read:correct) answer or they can see that the passenger has a history of doing this I get it. But simply to deny boarding on a suspicion does not happen.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yhaller14 on December 10, 2017, 11:25:02 PM
Even if it happens all the time, they still can't stop.you from boarding because they suspect that you will do it when you land.

Now if the passenger was asked about it and didn't give a good (read:correct) answer or they can see that the passenger has a history of doing this I get it. But simply to deny boarding on a suspicion does not happen.
No one denied boarding they just asked for difference in fare
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yelped on December 11, 2017, 12:23:46 AM
No one denied boarding they just asked for difference in fare
And if they don't pay? I understand that it happened. I just want to know why? How can they force you to pay based on a suspicion that you will not fly there?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: pashakym on December 11, 2017, 02:49:14 PM
thanks for this thread, learned a lot about a "hidden city" trick.

Just now, there is a $66 option NYC-SFO or SFO-NYC many dates in Jan and Feb with 1 stop.
All flights with AA through ORD, DFW or CTL so basically I can fly there for $66.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: bubkiz on December 11, 2017, 06:54:27 PM
Anyone have experience flying hidden city with a baby and stroller? Can a carseat/stroller be gate checked and taken off at the stop?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on December 11, 2017, 07:06:18 PM
Anyone have experience flying hidden city with a baby and stroller? Can a carseat/stroller be gate checked and taken off at the stop?
I have never did it but I assume if you have a few hours stop over in between you tell them you want to stroll around the airport I don't see why they're not going to give it back to you.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: LEARNERBURNER on December 17, 2017, 08:41:24 AM
I’m coming back with the Tuesday 11:10 pm TLV-EWR-ORD flight, I’m going to use your thing and let you know how it goes lol, I was thinking of creating an ORD car rental reservation and show them the confirmation, but this looks easier and better
How did it go? What was your experience?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Ephraimh on December 17, 2017, 09:16:52 AM
How did it go? What was your experience?
I didn’t check in any luggage so I avoided the counter where the fun apparently happens... I did nevertheless have an ORD car rental reservation confirmation sitting in my email inbox ready to be pulled up in case of that question coming my way , but that question never came..
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 18, 2017, 05:23:46 PM
How did it go? What was your experience?
I didn’t check in any luggage so I avoided the counter where the fun apparently happens... I did nevertheless have an ORD car rental reservation confirmation sitting in my email inbox ready to be pulled up in case of that question coming my way , but that question never came..
My sister doing it tomorrow and she got luggage, let’s see....
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: LEARNERBURNER on December 18, 2017, 06:00:29 PM
My sister doing it tomorrow and she got luggage, let’s see....
Let us know
Title: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 1356Abe on December 18, 2017, 10:46:56 PM
I’m in flight now. No issues at all. Agent asked where is your final destination I replied Chicago, agent said you know you have to recheck your luggage in Newark I replied yes. End of our conversation...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on December 18, 2017, 10:49:55 PM
I’m in flight now. No issues at all. Agent asked where is your final destination I replied Chicago, agent said you know you have to recheck your luggage in Newark I replied yes.
It's very possible that all those reporting issues simply answered the question incorrectly.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 1356Abe on December 18, 2017, 10:50:58 PM
It's very possible that all those reporting issues simply answered the question incorrectly.
Very possible. And that’s why they were being told they have to pay $300. Cause that would be the change fee
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: nafnaf12 on December 19, 2017, 04:33:26 AM
It's very possible that all those reporting issues simply answered the question incorrectly.
also possible that the agent @1356Abe encountered isn't the one creating all the issues
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on December 19, 2017, 08:39:45 AM
also possible that the agent @1356Abe encountered isn't the one creating all the issues
Maybe, but regardless, it's very likely, the people flying on the tickets aren't the ones who know what they're doing. I live in ORD, and multiple time, have flown through NYC between ORD and TLV, and never had an issue. If you aren't stupid, there is no reason why they would question a ticket they sell. Also, if they catch multiple people in hats and jackets, pulling shtick, they may target people of their kind...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on December 19, 2017, 09:40:28 AM
Maybe, but regardless, it's very likely, the people flying on the tickets aren't the ones who know what they're doing. I live in ORD, and multiple time, have flown through NYC between ORD and TLV, and never had an issue. If you aren't stupid, there is no reason why they would question a ticket they sell. Also, if they catch multiple people in hats and jackets, pulling shtick, they may target people of their kind...
if you live in ORD they can most likely see that you started in ORD so there is nothing fishy there
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on December 19, 2017, 09:44:00 AM
also possible that the agent @1356Abe encountered isn't the one creating all the issues
+1 did you take the night flight or the day flight?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 1356Abe on December 19, 2017, 11:54:32 AM
+1 did you take the night flight or the day flight?
Night
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on December 19, 2017, 12:44:08 PM
if you live in ORD they can most likely see that you started in ORD so there is nothing fishy there
True. Regardless, it's not that rare, albeit not that common either to end a trip in a different place then where you started. (Maybe I took Spirit to NYC from ORD) I can't imagine someone who actually knows what they are doing, being forced to pay a fee.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on December 19, 2017, 12:46:09 PM
Night
That is great news. It seems n00bs are the ones messing this up
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on December 19, 2017, 02:03:39 PM
That is great news. It seems n00bs are the ones messing this up
More likely it's their TA's not warning them about what to say.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on December 19, 2017, 02:04:43 PM
More likely it's their TA's not warning them about what to say.
From what I understand TAs wont book clients on hidden city tickets. At least my family TA
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: normathej on December 19, 2017, 02:05:38 PM
From what I understand TAs wont book clients on hidden city tickets. At least my family TA

All of the TA's I know will not book hidden city.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on December 19, 2017, 02:17:26 PM
From what I understand TAs wont book clients on hidden city tickets. At least my family TA
The TA's booking these aren't your typical family TA.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: brodes18 on December 19, 2017, 02:22:44 PM
All of the TA's I know will not book hidden city.
Could also be family / friend telling them that they can get great deals on tix and then not properly coaching them on how to do this.

I don't consider hidden city an option for most people in most cases due to risks with delays and cancellations. However, with international the risks are lower, but still not for those who don't know
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 19, 2017, 03:13:45 PM
if you live in ORD they can most likely see that you started in ORD so there is nothing fishy there
Why would they check where you came from?? Why do they even care, you thing every person that checks in they check their complete itinerary??
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on December 19, 2017, 03:16:16 PM
Why would they check where you came from?? Why do they even care, you thing every person that checks in they check their complete itinerary??
I didnt say that they do but if it is on one itinerary they might be able to. Dont know why you needed so many question marks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on December 19, 2017, 03:24:15 PM
All of the TA's I know will not book hidden city.
+1 Especially with UA.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on December 19, 2017, 03:33:17 PM
From what I understand TAs wont book clients on hidden city tickets. At least my family TA
A regular TA will not book it in their GDS, for fear of debit memos. "Chaim Yankel Business Platinum / Mileage TA" on the other hand faces no such repercussions.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yammer on December 19, 2017, 05:05:53 PM
From what I understand TAs wont book clients on hidden city tickets. At least my family TA
I recently had a big TA book 2 AF J with hidden city.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Ephraimh on December 19, 2017, 06:07:50 PM
I live in ORD, and multiple time, have flown through NYC between ORD and TLV, and never had an issue.
Your passport shows you live in ORD. Total different ball game
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on December 19, 2017, 06:09:01 PM
Your passport shows you live in ORD. Total different ball game
True as well. My experience proves no point I guess. Regardless, none of that should make a difference.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 19, 2017, 07:43:24 PM
Your passport shows you live in ORD. Total different ball game
My American passport doesn’t say my address...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on December 19, 2017, 08:08:37 PM
My American passport doesn’t say my address...
LOL, good point!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 20, 2017, 05:32:44 AM
My sister doing it tomorrow and she got luggage, let’s see....

Well she landed a little over an hour ago...
So... at TLV she was asked where she’s going and before she had a chance to say EWR (as if I hadn’t warned her a million times over beforehand) my father said ORD and that was it, Good to go, everything else worked out...

I sort of expected it to happen and warned my father before booking that he better make sure this doesn’t mess up (she’s young and first time flying by herself)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yelped on December 20, 2017, 10:20:16 AM
Well she landed a little over an hour ago...
So... at TLV she was asked where she’s going and before she had a chance to say EWR (as if I hadn’t warned her a million times over beforehand) my father said ORD and that was it, Good to go, everything else worked out...

I sort of expected it to happen and warned my father before booking that he better make sure this doesn’t mess up (she’s young and first time flying by herself)
::)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on December 21, 2017, 09:19:53 AM
My American passport doesn’t say my address...
they can see all the information as soon as its scanned in their system.
  But those who check your passport by hand won't be able to see anything but your name.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Sig on December 21, 2017, 10:25:00 AM
they can see all the information as soon as its scanned in their system.
  But those who check your passport by hand won't be able to see anything but your name.
Sorry, you're simply wrong about that. I'd be interested if you fabricated this out of whole cloth or actually read it somewhere?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 21, 2017, 12:29:12 PM
they can see all the information as soon as its scanned in their system.
  But those who check your passport by hand won't be able to see anything but your name.
How do they know where I live by scanning my passport? ???
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: sillypainter on December 21, 2017, 04:41:53 PM
Flying into China. Do you need to recheck your luggage at first point of entry like US?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on December 21, 2017, 06:17:56 PM
Sorry, you're simply wrong about that. I'd be interested if you fabricated this out of whole cloth or actually read it somewhere?
How do do they know if I'm a dual citizen if my passwords is a u.s. passport?
  You're saying my citizenship they could see but not my address?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on December 21, 2017, 07:47:46 PM
How do do they know if I'm a dual citizen if my passwords is a u.s. passport?
  You're saying my citizenship they could see but not my address?
Possibly. Also possible, that there is a note or a flag of some sort for duel citizens.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on December 21, 2017, 07:49:51 PM
Booked an AA HC, didn't put my AA number in but the reservation is showing in my account, anything to worry about or will I be fine?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on December 21, 2017, 07:52:47 PM
Booked an AA HC, didn't put my AA number in but the reservation is showing in my account, anything to worry about or will I be fine?
Are you taking HC flights that often, that if  you "miss" one flight it will raise a flag?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on December 21, 2017, 07:53:08 PM
Are you taking HC flights that often, that if  you "miss" one flight it will raise a flag?
No
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on December 21, 2017, 07:54:26 PM
No
I personally wouldn't be all that concerned, but I'd ask the experts. I can't imagine it's that big a risk
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on December 21, 2017, 08:01:53 PM
When taking an HC it's probably best to avoid putting your FFN and credit it after you take your flight?
 As mentioned earlier?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 21, 2017, 08:44:16 PM
Possibly. Also possible, that there is a note or a flag of some sort for duel citizens.
Well never had an issue (no one ever said boo) and I’m a dual citizen
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on December 21, 2017, 08:58:18 PM
Well never had an issue (no one ever said boo) and I’m a dual citizen
I'm not saying you would have had an issue, but it's possible they get a pop up/alert/note of some sort.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 22, 2017, 02:02:49 AM
I'm not saying you would have had an issue, but it's possible they get a pop up/alert/note of some sort.
Who exactly informed them on me being a dual citizen?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on December 22, 2017, 07:16:29 AM
Who exactly informed them on me being a dual citizen?
You're getting carried away here. @myi was implying they knew. All I'm doing is offering up a few possibilities as to how that may theoretically be possible.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 22, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
You're getting carried away here. @myi was implying they knew. All I'm doing is offering up a few possibilities as to how that may theoretically be possible.
Sorry
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on December 22, 2017, 01:32:22 PM
Sorry
No need to apologize, I was just trying to clarify my point.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Sig on December 24, 2017, 10:57:47 AM
How do do they know if I'm a dual citizen if my passwords is a u.s. passport?
  You're saying my citizenship they could see but not my address?
Not sure how those two things are in any way related. That's like saying, 'they know my dual citizenship status, therefore they must also know my medical history. Your citizenship status and your address are two completely independent pieces of information, there's no logic to saying if you know one you must know the other.

BTW, your dual citizenship status isn't encoded in your passport either. You may have had a note attached to your customs file after a previous travel encounter, but again that's a very different thing from what you're saying.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Sig on December 24, 2017, 11:01:35 AM
You're getting carried away here. @myi was implying they knew. All I'm doing is offering up a few possibilities as to how that may theoretically be possible.
More accurately @myi was simply speculating, to use a charitable word to describe it.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shloim4334 on December 26, 2017, 05:23:58 PM
Hi folks (actually my first time here on DDF). I'm thinking about doing a HC from TLV to Europe, but I'll need to take along luggage. So I'd make an enough long layover to be able to take out my luggage. Any idea what's the minimum layover time to be able to tag my luggage to the stopover city (OS/LH/LX/)?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on December 26, 2017, 06:17:44 PM
Hi folks (actually my first time here on DDF). I'm thinking about doing a HC from TLV to Europe, but I'll need to take along luggage. So I'd make an enough long layover to be able to take out my luggage. Any idea what's the minimum layover time to be able to tag my luggage to the stopover city (OS/LH/LX/)?

Thanks!
usually you would need an overnight stopover
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on December 26, 2017, 06:30:12 PM
Hi folks (actually my first time here on DDF). I'm thinking about doing a HC from TLV to Europe, but I'll need to take along luggage. So I'd make an enough long layover to be able to take out my luggage. Any idea what's the minimum layover time to be able to tag my luggage to the stopover city (OS/LH/LX/)?

Thanks!
Welcome aboard ddf..
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on January 09, 2018, 01:47:56 PM
Can anyone complete the entire Australia and surrounding area in the wiki? @Dan
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: rcarentals on January 09, 2018, 10:16:51 PM
Booked an AA HC, didn't put my AA number in but the reservation is showing in my account, anything to worry about or will I be fine?

If you are truly worried - make a FF account with another oneworld member (or new one with AA) - and connect the FF number to the flight.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: blue eyes on January 10, 2018, 12:13:31 AM
My latest hidden city saga.
NYC-BRU BRU-DME is an easy hidden city route that ive done in the past with brussels airlines several times and never had issues.
United however flagged the ticket as needing a visa for Moscow. Tried every trick under the sun but they wouldn't let me board.


Interestingly enough with a 24 hour layover in brussels the system did not flag it for a visa.
Take your chances but be prepared.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on January 10, 2018, 12:34:30 AM
Was the first leg with UA or Brussels?
You can't get a visa on the spot when you arrive?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on January 10, 2018, 12:36:55 AM
Was the first leg with UA or Brussels?
You can't get a visa on the spot when you arrive?
Can't get visa for Russia on the spot.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yhaller14 on January 10, 2018, 12:57:08 AM
My latest hidden city saga.
NYC-BRU BRU-DME is an easy hidden city route that ive done in the past with brussels airlines several times and never had issues.
United however flagged the ticket as needing a visa for Moscow. Tried every trick under the sun but they wouldn't let me board.


Interestingly enough with a 24 hour layover in brussels the system did not flag it for a visa.
Take your chances but be prepared.
Now u know for next time to get a visa....
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on January 10, 2018, 08:48:19 AM
Now u know for next time to get a visa....
Costs like $160...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: jose34 on January 13, 2018, 12:22:06 PM
Any place to find hidden city tickets without mauling check every city, now that matrix does not work?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on January 13, 2018, 12:44:34 PM
Any place to find hidden city tickets without mauling check every city, now that matrix does not work?
ITA Matrix works fine.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on January 13, 2018, 05:44:00 PM
Any place to find hidden city tickets without mauling check every city, now that matrix does not work?
Where did you read this? Like mentioned use ita matrix not matrix.com
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on January 14, 2018, 02:05:36 AM
Are there any HC options for a RT from NYC to GRU?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ah giten on January 17, 2018, 03:15:13 AM
Booked a NYC TLV, TLV NYC, NYC BOS as hidden city, through a local agency website. Called travel agency for a change, they noticed the Boston flight, got angry and said please book hidden city tickets through a site you want to screw, because United will Bill is for this...
Anybody knows of this can be true? Can they prove that I didn't want the last leg?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on January 17, 2018, 04:48:39 AM


Anybody knows of this can be true? Can they prove that I didn't want the last leg?
They don't have to prove anything. They just have to issue the debit memo, and it's the agencies problem to fight it.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on January 17, 2018, 07:13:15 PM
Not sure if this is the place, but it was a HC ticket, so here it is...
Booked a RT flight on WN - MDW-SFO with a stop in Vegas. I was off for Xmas, so figured why not burn 28k points. Found a flight for 1700 points LAS-MDW the following day. Getting out of MDW xmas eve, we were delayed due to weather, and our connection to SFO was delayed a couple hours as well. This made for a great excuse to cancel the return flight (which I stupidly booked as one itinerary). Upon calling, I explained that I only had 24 hours of vacation, and too much of it was already wasted on delays. I found a cheap flight home from LAS, and did not want to proceed with my trip. They understood, and happily cancelled. I realized the points were not redeposited, and only tonight, had a chance to spend the 1hour+ on the phone, and explained what had happened. Apparently, because I skipped the LAS-SFO leg, the trip was incomplete, and not much could be done, so I was referred to customer relations. Customer relations told me that because I didn't make it to my destination they will be fully refunding the MDW-LAS-SFO flight!
TLDR:At the end of the day, I paid 1,794 points (+tax&fees) for DW and I to fly RT MDW to LAS :D
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 18, 2018, 12:24:23 AM
Not sure if this is the place, but it was a HC ticket, so here it is...
Booked a RT flight on WN - MDW-SFO with a stop in Vegas. I was off for Xmas, so figured why not burn 28k points. Found a flight for 1700 points LAS-MDW the following day. Getting out of MDW xmas eve, we were delayed due to weather, and our connection to SFO was delayed a couple hours as well. This made for a great excuse to cancel the return flight (which I stupidly booked as one itinerary). Upon calling, I explained that I only had 24 hours of vacation, and too much of it was already wasted on delays. I found a cheap flight home from LAS, and did not want to proceed with my trip. They understood, and happily cancelled. I realized the points were not redeposited, and only tonight, had a chance to spend the 1hour+ on the phone, and explained what had happened. Apparently, because I skipped the LAS-SFO leg, the trip was incomplete, and not much could be done, so I was referred to customer relations. Customer relations told me that because I didn't make it to my destination they will be fully refunding the MDW-LAS-SFO flight!
TLDR:At the end of the day, I paid 1,794 points (+tax&fees) for DW and I to fly RT MDW to LAS :D
wow, sweet!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 18, 2018, 12:24:43 AM
They don't have to prove anything. They just have to issue the debit memo, and it's the agencies problem to fight it.
how often do debit memos get issued for HC tickets?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 18, 2018, 12:26:50 AM
I didnt say that they do but if it is on one itinerary they might be able to. Dont know why you needed so many question marks
Pet peeve of mine lol, regular question = 1 question mark, if someone is ignoring you or whatever then 2 may be warranted.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: David Smith on January 18, 2018, 12:28:51 AM
Not sure if this is the place, but it was a HC ticket, so here it is...
Booked a RT flight on WN - MDW-SFO with a stop in Vegas. I was off for Xmas, so figured why not burn 28k points. Found a flight for 1700 points LAS-MDW the following day. Getting out of MDW xmas eve, we were delayed due to weather, and our connection to SFO was delayed a couple hours as well. This made for a great excuse to cancel the return flight (which I stupidly booked as one itinerary). Upon calling, I explained that I only had 24 hours of vacation, and too much of it was already wasted on delays. I found a cheap flight home from LAS, and did not want to proceed with my trip. They understood, and happily cancelled. I realized the points were not redeposited, and only tonight, had a chance to spend the 1hour+ on the phone, and explained what had happened. Apparently, because I skipped the LAS-SFO leg, the trip was incomplete, and not much could be done, so I was referred to customer relations. Customer relations told me that because I didn't make it to my destination they will be fully refunding the MDW-LAS-SFO flight!
TLDR:At the end of the day, I paid 1,794 points (+tax&fees) for DW and I to fly RT MDW to LAS :D
Southwest officially allows hidden city, IIRC.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Bostener on January 18, 2018, 12:40:45 AM
Had similar story with United EWR-TLV. 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 18, 2018, 12:46:43 AM
Southwest officially allows hidden city, IIRC.
wow
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mendyt on January 18, 2018, 12:48:05 AM
how often do debit memos get issued for HC tickets?
Often enough that most agencies don't dare booking it in their GDS
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on January 18, 2018, 09:43:21 AM
wow, sweet!
Indeed.
Southwest officially allows hidden city, IIRC.
One thing to charge me the 23k or whatever it was for the first leg, another to refund the entire trip. They essentially flew me and my wife to LAS 100% free.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on January 18, 2018, 10:46:05 AM
Often enough that most agencies don't dare booking it in their GDS
Depends which airline.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 18, 2018, 11:05:13 AM
Often enough that most agencies don't dare booking it in their GDS
ah, and I guess priceline/orbitz etc are so big that doesnt really matter
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: travel agent on January 18, 2018, 11:08:08 AM
i booked (on the airlines site) last year for a whole family XXX - NYC - LAX as HC, in the end they needed to change the date, the schedule for nyc - lax was changed by 30 min., so i was able to waive the change fee.

when they actually flew, the flight to nyc was delayed & they missed the connection to lax, & they got a refund of around $100 each.   
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mendyt on January 18, 2018, 11:14:14 AM
ah, and I guess priceline/orbitz etc are so big that doesnt really matter
Can't speak for them.
But there was a time that I was booking many EWR-LHR tickets  on cheaptickets.com and   at some point they started canceling any new reservation I did.   And I always used different email address etc. But was all the same IP
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on January 18, 2018, 11:19:19 AM
ah, and I guess priceline/orbitz etc are so big that doesnt really matter
I'm not sure that they can debit memo an OTA, because people book it themselves...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 18, 2018, 11:44:33 AM
I'm not sure that they can debit memo an OTA, because people book it themselves...
interesting
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: farmbochur on January 18, 2018, 11:58:56 AM
What's a debit memo?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chff on January 18, 2018, 12:20:26 PM
What's a debit memo?
Legal form of highway robbery
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on January 18, 2018, 12:31:58 PM
What's a debit memo?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agency_debit_memo
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eliteflyer on January 18, 2018, 12:34:07 PM
I recently booked a HC on UA YYZ-EWR-[BTV] ($100 vs. $300). The cherry on top, was that a travel waiver was issued while we were enroute for EWR due to weather and our EWR-BTV flight was delayed by about 15 minutes. UA.com allowed me to search for "alternate travel", including to alternate destinations within reasonable proximity of the original destination and after a couple of rounds at that I was able to move the destination to Albany, then to Syracuse, then to BUF three days later, so I didn't need to book a return ticket.  Would have been even cooler if I'd been able to move the final destination to YYZ, but the system didnt offer it and I wasn't about to call UA to request it.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: farmbochur on January 18, 2018, 12:38:03 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agency_debit_memo
Interesting. Do agencies actually pay these or are they primarily for this:

"The airlines can also write off these ADM's, example: Airline Z issues an ADM for a $1000.00, the travel agency refuses to pay it, the airline considers it a loss and writes it off. Its a great way to reduce the corp tax the airlines pay."
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chff on January 18, 2018, 03:38:50 PM
Interesting. Do agencies actually pay these or are they primarily for this:

"The airlines can also write off these ADM's, example: Airline Z issues an ADM for a $1000.00, the travel agency refuses to pay it, the airline considers it a loss and writes it off. Its a great way to reduce the corp tax the airlines pay."

I wish
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on January 18, 2018, 07:36:50 PM
I recently booked a HC on UA YYZ-EWR-[BTV] ($100 vs. $300). The cherry on top, was that a travel waiver was issued while we were enroute for EWR due to weather and our EWR-BTV flight was delayed by about 15 minutes. UA.com allowed me to search for "alternate travel", including to alternate destinations within reasonable proximity of the original destination and after a couple of rounds at that I was able to move the destination to Albany, then to Syracuse, then to BUF three days later, so I didn't need to book a return ticket.  Would have been even cooler if I'd been able to move the final destination to YYZ, but the system didnt offer it and I wasn't about to call UA to request it.

Cool story. Delta app is good at that too with offering alternative airports.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Danlover111 on January 20, 2018, 03:36:16 PM
when booking a ticket ewr to tlv, tlv to bos via ewr by checked bags come out in ewr? just making sure thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on January 20, 2018, 04:31:40 PM
when booking a ticket ewr to tlv, tlv to bos via ewr by checked bags come out in ewr? just making sure thanks
Yes.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Azis Papa on January 23, 2018, 12:31:30 PM
I booked a HC flight on Delta  CLE - BOS stopping at JFK where I plan to get off.  I was signed on to my Delta account at the time - not sure that was a smart thing to do - but I don't do this often so hopefully not a problem.  Question: is there any way to change the FF account # from Delta to FB or another airline at this point? 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eliteflyer on January 23, 2018, 12:52:11 PM
I booked a HC flight on Delta  CLE - BOS stopping at JFK where I plan to get off.  I was signed on to my Delta account at the time - not sure that was a smart thing to do - but I don't do this often so hopefully not a problem.  Question: is there any way to change the FF account # from Delta to FB or another airline at this point? 
Of course. Should be able to do it under "Manage my Reservations."
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on January 23, 2018, 12:53:53 PM
Of course. Should be able to do it under "Manage my Reservations."
+1 If that doesn't work, PUTPAC.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shloim4334 on January 24, 2018, 03:50:46 AM
Hi, I just want to share my experience with HC on EWR-TLV route with United,so someone might benefit from it, so sorry for the long דרשה...
I found a HC ticket for my parents thru ORD for close to $300 cheaper each ticket. But to avoid problems (in case their flight get canceled, or if the luggage gets lost it should'nt end up in Chicago), I didn't book the return TLV-ORD with a stop in EWR, but I separeted it into a separete leg, so the ticket was EWR-TLV TLV-EWR EWR-ORD. And just in case they do make problems in the airport, I armed them with a car rental reservation in Chicago, I even booked them a (refundable) 'return' ticket back from ORD to NY, and even printed them out directions to a address in Chicago...
In the end when they checked in online, the destination on the boarding pass said just EWR, so obviosly their luggage was tagged to EWR. The check-in agent didn't ask any questions, just asked where their final destination is, and let them thru!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yhaller14 on January 24, 2018, 05:26:09 AM
Hi, I just want to share my experience with HC on EWR-TLV route with United,so someone might benefit from it, so sorry for the long דרשה...
I found a HC ticket for my parents thru ORD for close to $300 cheaper each ticket. But to avoid problems (in case their flight get canceled, or if the luggage gets lost it should'nt end up in Chicago), I didn't book the return TLV-ORD with a stop in EWR, but I separeted it into a separete leg, so the ticket was EWR-TLV TLV-EWR EWR-ORD. And just in case they do make problems in the airport, I armed them with a car rental reservation in Chicago, I even booked them a (refundable) 'return' ticket back from ORD to NY, and even printed them out directions to a address in Chicago...
In the end when they checked in online, the destination on the boarding pass said just EWR, so obviosly their luggage was tagged to EWR. The check-in agent didn't ask any questions, just asked where their final destination is, and let them thru!
What's the חידוש?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chff on January 24, 2018, 07:42:29 AM


I didn't book the return TLV-ORD with a stop in EWR, but I separeted it into a separete leg, so the ticket was EWR-TLV TLV-EWR EWR-ORD.

Explain pls?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on January 24, 2018, 08:04:15 AM

Explain pls?
I think he's saying two one ways EWR-TLV//TLV-EWR-ORD
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shloim4334 on January 24, 2018, 08:51:40 AM
I meant to say that I didn't do the return as a flight from TLV to ORD that stops in EWR, and you just dont't take the connection, because if the flight gets canceled they might sent you to ORD thru a stop in Europe and from there direct to ORD, and wont stop in EWR and then you are stuck. So I divided it into 2 separate flights, one from TLV to EWR, and then another flight from EWR to ORD, so  they can't send you direct to ORD because your destination is EWR.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: nafnaf12 on January 24, 2018, 08:53:52 AM
I meant to say that I didn't do the return as a flight from TLV to ORD that stops in EWR, and you just dont't take the connection, because if the flight gets canceled they might sent you to ORD thru a stop in Europe and from there direct to ORD, and wont stop in EWR and then you are stuck. So I divided it into 2 separate flights, one from TLV to EWR, and then another flight from EWR to ORD, so  they can't send you direct to ORD because your destination is EWR.
that's a MC not HC
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shloim4334 on January 24, 2018, 08:56:05 AM
What's the חידוש?
I'm not out to say חידושים, but for some people who might be scared to do it , I shared with them my experience that it went smoothly. Thats all
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shloim4334 on January 24, 2018, 08:57:50 AM
that's a MC not HC
Not sure for what MC stand for. Multi city?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: nafnaf12 on January 24, 2018, 08:58:32 AM
Not sure for what MC stand for. Multi city?
correct
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on January 24, 2018, 09:46:33 AM
that's a MC not HC
I always thought that MC is just a tool to search for the ticket but if the connection is under 24, it'll be the same thing as a one way to ORD with a stop in EWR, no?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on January 24, 2018, 12:06:23 PM
I meant to say that I didn't do the return as a flight from TLV to ORD that stops in EWR, and you just dont't take the connection, because if the flight gets canceled they might sent you to ORD thru a stop in Europe and from there direct to ORD, and wont stop in EWR and then you are stuck. So I divided it into 2 separate flights, one from TLV to EWR, and then another flight from EWR to ORD, so  they can't send you direct to ORD because your destination is EWR.
How long was your "stop" in EWR?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: nucheiner on January 24, 2018, 04:34:38 PM
I always thought that MC is just a tool to search for the ticket but if the connection is under 24, it'll be the same thing as a one way to ORD with a stop in EWR, no?
Yes, according to what a Delta agent told me a while back.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on January 25, 2018, 11:20:25 AM
How long was your "stop" in EWR?
And why didn’t it’s say ORD on the tags if that’s the final destination??
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on January 25, 2018, 11:55:28 AM
And why didn’t it’s say ORD on the tags if that’s the final destination??
All bags need to be rechecked.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on January 25, 2018, 11:56:27 AM
All bags need to be rechecked.
Any have a link to a post as to when it's like this....
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on January 25, 2018, 12:01:17 PM
Any have a link to a post as to when it's like this....
I'm assuming you're asking if anyone knows when this happens? The answer is when arriving to the US and clearing customs in the US.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on January 25, 2018, 12:06:00 PM
I'm assuming you're asking if anyone knows when this happens? The answer is when arriving to the US and clearing customs in the US.
I was referring to out side the US, is it ever like that too?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shloim4334 on January 25, 2018, 02:13:48 PM
How long was your "stop" in EWR?
They took the 11:10 PM flight to EWR And the next flight 'was' 6:30 PM
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shloim4334 on January 25, 2018, 02:16:09 PM
And why didn’t it’s say ORD on the tags if that’s the final destination??
Here is a copy of the boarding pass
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on January 25, 2018, 02:35:38 PM
Here is a copy of the boarding pass
Boarding pass is per flight. Baggage tag is (supposed to be) until final destination.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on January 25, 2018, 03:08:26 PM
Here is a copy of the boarding pass
FYI, you went out of your way to block out the name, but left the bar code and confirmation number...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on January 26, 2018, 02:23:02 AM
All bags need to be rechecked.
They still get tagged to final destination
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yhaller14 on January 26, 2018, 05:05:12 AM
They still get tagged to final destination
They come out of security and You need to recheck them
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on February 02, 2018, 12:16:40 AM
Just trying to Alert the Olam, UA night flight in TLV, almost all my clients get hassled, its amazing how the agents repeat the same lies, your bag is coming out in Boston, your bag is coming out in Washington etc

That being said one of my pax did pay 3x $300 penalty but was able to successfully fight united for a refund after.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: JACKBLUE on February 02, 2018, 12:34:54 AM
Just trying to Alert the Olam, UA night flight in TLV, almost all my clients get hassled, its amazing how the agents repeat the same lies, your bag is coming out in Boston, your bag is coming out in Washington etc

That being said one of my pax did pay 3x $300 penalty but was able to successfully fight united for a refund after.
penalty for what?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on February 02, 2018, 12:44:23 AM
penalty for what?
Penalty for violating United's conditions of carriage by booking Hidden city tickets.

many reports of this at TLV
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: JACKBLUE on February 02, 2018, 12:45:55 AM
Penalty for violating United's conditions of carriage by booking Hidden city tickets.

many reports of this at TLV :-[
how do they know if I’m planning to continue the trip from EWR?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on February 02, 2018, 02:29:45 AM
Just trying to Alert the Olam, UA night flight in TLV, almost all my clients get hassled, its amazing how the agents repeat the same lies, your bag is coming out in Boston, your bag is coming out in Washington etc

That being said one of my pax did pay 3x $300 penalty but was able to successfully fight united for a refund after.
You have to go with the right approach.

I flew that flight this past week & instead of waiting for them to confront me. Straight up I said I'm flying to ORD & have a tight connection in EWR, will I make it.

Besides for assuring me that the flight is on time No further questions were asked of me.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zow on February 02, 2018, 03:57:16 AM
You have to go with the right approach.

I flew that flight this past week & instead of waiting for them to confront me. Straight up I said I'm flying to ORD & have a tight connection in EWR, will I make it.

Besides for assuring me that the flight is on time No further questions were asked of me.
I bet you ended up missing your connection in EWR.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on February 02, 2018, 05:17:20 AM
Just trying to Alert the Olam, UA night flight in TLV, almost all my clients get hassled, its amazing how the agents repeat the same lies, your bag is coming out in Boston, your bag is coming out in Washington etc

That being said one of my pax did pay 3x $300 penalty but was able to successfully fight united for a refund after.
Did he continue on the second leg?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: aygart on February 02, 2018, 09:23:26 AM
Just trying to Alert the Olam, UA night flight in TLV, almost all my clients get hassled, its amazing how the agents repeat the same lies, your bag is coming out in Boston, your bag is coming out in Washington etc

That being said one of my pax did pay 3x $300 penalty but was able to successfully fight united for a refund after.
Don't TA get debited for this?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: LEARNERBURNER on February 02, 2018, 09:28:30 AM
Don't TA get debited for this?
Not if they book through different channels
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: high end hobo on February 02, 2018, 10:08:32 AM
Did he continue on the second leg?
No


It seems United corporate is much more compassionate  then the Ua station manager in TLV
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yudamaan on February 02, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
I found a flight on skip lagged that I'd like to book using amex points on amex travel  however can't seem to find that flight there or anywhere else
How can I go about booking this?
Thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: LEARNERBURNER on February 02, 2018, 12:28:06 PM
I found a flight on skip lagged that I'd like to book using amex points on amex travel  however can't seem to find that flight there or anywhere else
How can I go about booking this?
Thanks
Airline itself or on the phone. Book with your card and ask them to use points
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: farmbochur on February 02, 2018, 12:33:09 PM
I found a flight on skip lagged that I'd like to book using amex points on amex travel  however can't seem to find that flight there or anywhere else
How can I go about booking this?
Thanks

Got it, thanks walking me through this. I think I'll get the hang of it just in time for my 50% rebate to expire

In the mean time, I've cancelled the original ticket booked with Delta. I then called Platinum Travel Services (1-800-443-7672). Agent was able to pull up the basic economy fare, waive the phone booking fee, and process the pay with points request.

Platinum travel services is much better than Amex travel. No phone tree and expanded fare availability.

Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: normathej on February 02, 2018, 01:09:59 PM
Just trying to Alert the Olam, UA night flight in TLV, almost all my clients get hassled, its amazing how the agents repeat the same lies, your bag is coming out in Boston, your bag is coming out in Washington etc

That being said one of my pax did pay 3x $300 penalty but was able to successfully fight united for a refund after.

I had the opposite experience in TLV.  Agent asks, where are you going? I say Washington.  She snorts and says, what, are you going to SFO or EWR? 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yudamaan on February 02, 2018, 01:22:06 PM
Airline itself or on the phone. Book with your card and ask them to use points

Thank you
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on February 03, 2018, 11:40:33 AM
No


It seems United corporate is much more compassionate  then the Ua station manager in TLV
Need to find someone who'll try flying the second leg and then complain when it's cancelled. That should cause a stink.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on February 03, 2018, 11:44:05 AM
Need to find someone who'll try flying the second leg and then complain when it's cancelled. That should cause a stink.
When are you visiting the states next
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on February 03, 2018, 11:53:05 AM
When are you visiting the states next
Pesach but I don't plan on taking such a boring routing as TLV-EWR-ORD
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on February 03, 2018, 12:27:17 PM
Pesach but I don't plan on taking such a boring routing as TLV-EWR-ORD
Going via HKG?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on February 03, 2018, 12:28:53 PM
Going via HKG?
🤞if not maybe a week in MLE
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on February 05, 2018, 11:05:59 AM
🤞if not maybe a week in MLE
Good luck finding availability through HKG around pesach time.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Abelefko1 on February 05, 2018, 11:33:57 AM
Pleas don’t shoot me if this has been asked up thread
Anyone got any experience doing hc on awards ?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on February 05, 2018, 11:36:48 AM
Pleas don’t shoot me if this has been asked up thread
Anyone got any experience doing hc on awards ?
Very hard to find a situation where it's applicable, very few airlines do city pricing on award tickets. Sometimes you'll find married segments which can't be broken up.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Abelefko1 on February 05, 2018, 11:42:46 AM
Very hard to find a situation where it's applicable, very few airlines do city pricing on award tickets. Sometimes you'll find married segments which can't be broken up.
Ok I’ll give you a good example tlv- del via fra on lh f ua charges 45 k. But if I want to stop in Fra on the way back ua charges 55 k
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Abelefko1 on February 05, 2018, 11:45:07 AM
Very hard to find a situation where it's applicable, very few airlines do city pricing on award tickets. Sometimes you'll find married segments which can't be broken up.
Or London to sin using mle as the hc
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Abelefko1 on February 05, 2018, 03:12:49 PM
Very hard to find a situation where it's applicable, very few airlines do city pricing on award tickets. Sometimes you'll find married segments which can't be broken up.
Ok I AM a bit of a noob ....but I google a few times before asking so please would you mind explaining ? I don’t understand why married segments wouldn’t benefit on a hidden city
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: travel agent on February 05, 2018, 04:23:34 PM
i did a few times with aeroplan XXX - TLV - IST / ATH
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Abelefko1 on February 05, 2018, 04:28:05 PM
i did a few times with aeroplan XXX - TLV - IST / ATH
Results? Hiccups?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on February 05, 2018, 04:40:01 PM
You have to go with the right approach.

I flew that flight this past week & instead of waiting for them to confront me. Straight up I said I'm flying to ORD & have a tight connection in EWR, will I make it.

Besides for assuring me that the flight is on time No further questions were asked of me.
Well done.
It takes some creativity for an original excuse.
    There's so many excuses you can pull out of the hat but to go ahead and pay is a bit mind-boggling.
  Don't bother taking a hc ticket if you plan on paying, or letting the agent at the airport tell you where you're going.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: travel agent on February 05, 2018, 05:31:47 PM
Results? Hiccups?

big saving in miles
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yandmk on February 06, 2018, 08:50:07 PM
Any reason not to use an AA GC on a HC ticket?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: LEARNERBURNER on February 06, 2018, 09:20:23 PM
Any reason not to use an AA GC on a HC ticket?
No
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Skaner on February 06, 2018, 09:38:15 PM
I used hc with M&M before. Didn't change the mileage required but dropped the fuel surcharges by almost $300.
Booked EWR-ZRH-MUC-IST in C and the MUC-IST leg did the trick. I believe IST and DME were the only two cities that resulted in significant savings but Russia had the visa issue. Has since been fixed.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Joe4007 on February 06, 2018, 09:41:18 PM
Very hard to find a situation where it's applicable, very few airlines do city pricing on award tickets. Sometimes you'll find married segments which can't be broken up.
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2018/02/06/american-married-segment-restriction-on-award-tickets/
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on February 06, 2018, 09:42:20 PM
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2018/02/06/american-married-segment-restriction-on-award-tickets/
Yea, I saw that.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on February 07, 2018, 02:55:14 AM
I used hc with M&M before. Didn't change the mileage required but dropped the fuel surcharges by almost $300.
Booked EWR-ZRH-MUC-IST in C and the MUC-IST leg did the trick. I believe IST and DME were the only two cities that resulted in significant savings but Russia had the visa issue. Has since been fixed.
What do you mean fixed?
Title: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Abelefko1 on February 07, 2018, 04:37:28 AM
Pleas don’t shoot me if this has been asked up thread
Anyone got any experience doing hc on awards ?
Elite hobbyists eerily quiet on this....
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shimino1 on February 07, 2018, 06:05:11 AM
Well done.
It takes some creativity for an original excuse.
    There's so many excuses you can pull out of the hat but to go ahead and pay is a bit mind-boggling.
  Don't bother taking a hc ticket if you plan on paying, or letting the agent at the airport tell you where you're going.
Not sure why you need an excuse at all.
You bought a ticket and you are flying it.
End of story!!!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on February 07, 2018, 07:05:12 AM
Not sure why you need an excuse at all.
You bought a ticket and you are flying it.
End of story!!!
I agree with you, but doesn't seem to satisfy those at tlv airport.
 Do what ever works for you.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Skaner on February 07, 2018, 09:51:51 PM
What do you mean fixed?

Back then a C award US-EU had around $450 in surcharges but IST and DME priced out to about $170. I tried to use this hc trick again last fall and now all EU destinations with LH/OS/LX price out at $450. I don't have any miles left in my account to check now. 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on February 07, 2018, 11:27:08 PM
noob question what are people concerned about when doing hc?  that you can get fined if they catch you, how?  during checking in the luggage on an on an international flight or at the gate before boarding the plane on a domestic  ?you just deny it?
I suggest you read through this thread...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Pesach on February 07, 2018, 11:48:35 PM
so to clarify hc will never work the way there if you book a rt? because every airline from the normal carriers to ulllc will almost always cancel the return if you skip a leg the way there? so that means hc only applicable the way back?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on February 07, 2018, 11:50:24 PM
so to clarify hc will never work the way there if you book a rt? because every airline from the normal carriers to ulllc will almost always cancel the return if you skip a leg the way there? so that means hc only applicable the way back?
Legally, do one ways
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Pesach on February 07, 2018, 11:50:47 PM
so to clarify hc will never work the way there if you book a rt? because every airline from the normal carriers to ulllc will almost always cancel the return if you skip a leg the way there? so that means hc only applicable the way back? an that means you book 2 one ways on a non internation ticket that is not stopping in your real final destination?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on February 07, 2018, 11:52:09 PM
so to clarify hc will never work the way there if you book a rt? because every airline from the normal carriers to ulllc will almost always cancel the return if you skip a leg the way there? so that means hc only applicable the way back? an that means you book 2 one ways on a non internation ticket that is not stopping in your real final destination?
Repost!
You should work on your wording, it's kinda hard to understand your intentions
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on February 08, 2018, 02:04:38 AM
Legally, do one ways
No legally or not legally, you just can't do it. HC is against the contract of carriage anyway so it's not "legal" no matter how you do it.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on February 08, 2018, 02:05:22 AM
so to clarify hc will never work the way there if you book a rt? because every airline from the normal carriers to ulllc will almost always cancel the return if you skip a leg the way there? so that means hc only applicable the way back? an that means you book 2 one ways on a non internation ticket that is not stopping in your real final destination?
Not almost always, they will always cancel the rest of the itinerary if you miss a single leg.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on February 08, 2018, 02:07:35 AM
No legally or not legally, you just can't do it. HC is against the contract of carriage anyway so it's not "legal" no matter how you do it.
Sorry for being unclear, I was saying legally they cancel the rest
Intending to say this
Not almost always, they will always cancel the rest of the itinerary if you miss a single leg.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on February 08, 2018, 02:09:07 AM
Sorry for being unclear, I was saying legally they cancel the rest
Intending to say this
You should work on your wording, it's kinda hard to understand your intentions
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on February 08, 2018, 02:09:41 AM

Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on February 08, 2018, 03:04:39 AM

Feeding him his own medicine! ;) Lol
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shimino1 on February 08, 2018, 04:30:42 AM
I agree with you, but doesn't seem to satisfy those at tlv airport.
 Do what ever works for you.
When in Israel...
I'd like to see someone at the airport try to make me "prove" I am going to Boston. Worst case, you don't prove your case, don't pay and they deny you boarding. In that case Israeli law gives you nice compensation.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on February 08, 2018, 08:37:44 AM
Feeding him his own medicine! ;) Lol
I feel there is a big difference between a long sentence, that has no punctuation, and would makes sense if it did have, and a single word that can be misinterpreted. But I accept the Musser. :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on February 08, 2018, 09:04:17 AM
I feel there is a big difference between a long sentence, that has no punctuation, and would makes sense if it did have, and a single word that can be misinterpreted. But I accept the Musser. :)
Didn't mean it in a derogatory way, said that as a joke based on the conversation flow. ;)
 But I'm sorry if you took it seriously.
 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on February 08, 2018, 09:05:51 AM
Didn't mean it in a derogatory way, said that as a joke based on the conversation flow. ;)
 But I'm sorry if you took it seriously.
 
It was kinda directed at mmgfarb, but regardless there is nothing personal, with you or with him. :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on February 08, 2018, 09:07:02 AM
It was kinda directed at mmgfarb, but regardless there is nothing personal, with you or with him. :)
And to put the thread back on topic..
 Sorry for all those who subscribed to this thread.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: metsgiantsfan on February 08, 2018, 09:45:39 AM
i have a
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: metsgiantsfan on February 08, 2018, 09:47:11 AM
I have a question I would like to pose. I am looking to take a trip july 1 or july 2 from NYC to Vienna (VIE). I see UNited has some stop overs in Sweeden. I was wondering how I could book a rewards ticket with this stop over, but make it a day or two stop over so I could enjoy sweeden, then continue on to VIE without incurring any extra fees.. can this be done? How would i book this? thank you
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: greathummer7 on February 08, 2018, 10:32:08 AM
I have a question I would like to pose. I am looking to take a trip july 1 or july 2 from NYC to Vienna (VIE). I see UNited has some stop overs in Sweeden. I was wondering how I could book a rewards ticket with this stop over, but make it a day or two stop over so I could enjoy sweeden, then continue on to VIE without incurring any extra fees.. can this be done? How would i book this? thank you

That's not hidden city ticketing (wrong thread). look up United Excursionist Perk. if you can find award availability then you can book a stop over.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Coinguy on February 09, 2018, 09:01:47 AM
If I do a HC from a Europe to Yyz continuing on to a US city with a 13 hour “stopover”, will I have any issues with my luggage?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on February 09, 2018, 11:58:16 AM
If I do a HC from a Europe to Yyz continuing on to a US city with a 13 hour “stopover”, will I have any issues with my luggage?
You'll have to pick up your luggage in YYZ regardless of whether you take that last flight.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: travel agent on February 10, 2018, 05:53:28 PM
You'll have to pick up your luggage in YYZ regardless of whether you take that last flight.

-1
not with AC
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on February 10, 2018, 07:44:43 PM
-1
not with AC
+1. Just did ORD-YYZ-TLV RT and didn't see my luggage in YYZ either direction
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Coinguy on February 10, 2018, 07:55:36 PM
-1
not with AC


Even with a 13 hour layover?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: travel agent on February 11, 2018, 07:07:33 AM

Even with a 13 hour layover?

you can do an overnight stop, than you will get your bags, or do XXX - YYZ - YUL - USA, & you will have to clear Canadian customs with your bags.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: farmbochur on February 12, 2018, 11:06:29 AM
I'm booked on AC TLV-YYZ-BOS with overnight 10 hour layover in YYZ. YYZ-BOS is a throw away leg and I need to get to PIT.

Would AC notice/make my life difficult if I book a separate flight YYZ-PIT (which would render it implausible that I'd make my flight to BOS)?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: travel agent on February 12, 2018, 01:56:02 PM
I'm booked on AC TLV-YYZ-BOS with overnight 10 hour layover in YYZ. YYZ-BOS is a throw away leg and I need to get to PIT.

Would AC notice/make my life difficult if I book a separate flight YYZ-PIT (which would render it implausible that I'd make my flight to BOS)?

its ok
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on February 12, 2018, 01:57:29 PM
its ok
Is that even if the second flight is on AC?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: travel agent on February 12, 2018, 02:13:34 PM
Is that even if the second flight is on AC?

yes, just dont enter an aeroplan number.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eliteflyer on February 13, 2018, 11:10:50 AM
I'm booked on AC TLV-YYZ-BOS with overnight 10 hour layover in YYZ. YYZ-BOS is a throw away leg and I need to get to PIT.

Would AC notice/make my life difficult if I book a separate flight YYZ-PIT (which would render it implausible that I'd make my flight to BOS)?
Similar question: I need to book FLL/MIA-CLT for a same day turn tomorrow 2/14/18. Here's what I've booked thus far:

FLL-CLT [-CLE] $52.

There don't appear to be any good options for the return to FLL (must leave no earlier than 5:30 PM, which rules out using G4 out of USA and eliminates most of the AA connections through MIA). I will probably end up booking an AAnytime award for the return (20K AA + $81) or using BA if SAAver space opens. Will I have any issues taking that return (assuming I don't attach an AAdvantage number to the outbound)?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eliteflyer on February 13, 2018, 11:12:27 AM
yes, just dont enter an aeroplan number.
on either ticket or just the HC ticket TLV-YYZ-BOS? When Farmbucher goes to a kiosk at YYZ to check in for his YYZ-PIT flight, will the kiosk get confused/trigger agent review?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: SrulyS on February 13, 2018, 08:09:40 PM
Just trying to Alert the Olam, UA night flight in TLV, almost all my clients get hassled

1. Anyone have similar issues with Delta?

2. Would flying TLV to US without any checked bags be a red flag?

3. Any reason not to book HC with Amex Travel?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: travel agent on February 14, 2018, 07:51:39 AM
on either ticket or just the HC ticket TLV-YYZ-BOS? When Farmbucher goes to a kiosk at YYZ to check in for his YYZ-PIT flight, will the kiosk get confused/trigger agent review?

only on 1 of them,
why use the kiosk? you can check in online.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shimino1 on February 14, 2018, 09:40:39 AM
1. Anyone have similar issues with Delta?

2. Would flying TLV to US without any checked bags be a red flag?

3. Any reason not to book HC with Amex Travel?
In answer to "2" why not print out the boarding pass at home or at the airport kiosk and be done with it?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: SrulyS on February 14, 2018, 09:54:54 AM
In answer to "2" why not print out the boarding pass at home or at the airport kiosk and be done with it?
Fair point. Wouldn't this avoid 1 as well?

Does anyone have an opinion on my 3rd question? Do OTAs ever get debited by  airlines? Could this affect my relationship with Amex or Amex Travel?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: farmbochur on February 14, 2018, 09:58:10 AM


why use the kiosk? you can chech in online.

Checked bags...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shimino1 on February 14, 2018, 10:33:46 AM

Checked bags...
You my friend, need to reread the question he asked!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: farmbochur on February 14, 2018, 11:29:09 AM
You my friend, need to reread the question he asked!
?
I'm the OP...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on February 14, 2018, 11:39:19 AM
?
I'm the OP...
He wasnt answering you
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shimino1 on February 14, 2018, 05:07:43 PM
Fair point. Wouldn't this avoid 1 as well?

Does anyone have an opinion on my 3rd question? Do OTAs ever get debited by  airlines? Could this affect my relationship with Amex or Amex Travel?
It would if you don't have checked bags which was not in the premise of the question.
I would find it very hard to believe that Delta would send AMEX a debit memo and that AMEX would follow up with you. I have done a bunch of HC with Orbitz, Expedia, Priceline etc' and never had a single issue.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on February 14, 2018, 06:09:02 PM
2. Would flying TLV to US without any checked bags be a red flag?
Why would that be a red flag?

I would say that most people that are able to travel without checking in bags would prefer to do so. I just did that recently. I was probably in an Uber before bags even started coming out on the carousel, thanks to carry-ons only and GE.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on February 14, 2018, 07:33:22 PM
Why would that be a red flag?

I would say that most people that are able to travel without checking in bags would prefer to do so. I just did that recently. I was probably in an Uber before bags even started coming out on the carousel, thanks to carry-ons only and GE.
Wow that must cut your trip time is less then half. ;) lol
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: aygart on February 14, 2018, 07:35:58 PM
Why would that be a red flag?

I would say that most people that are able to travel without checking in bags would prefer to do so. I just did that recently. I was probably in an Uber before bags even started coming out on the carousel, thanks to carry-ons only and GE.
Often J bags come first anyhow.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: eliteflyer on February 14, 2018, 07:51:31 PM
here's what I ended up booking for today. Worked out great, and was a good idea to book it via Priceline because a cheaper flight popped up at the last minute for the return to JFK vs. MSY

Similar question: I need to book FLL/MIA-CLT for a same day turn tomorrow 2/14/18. Here's what I booked:

8:00 AM FLL-CLT [-CLE] $52.00
6:09 PM CLT-MIA[-JFK] $162.50

Total: $214.50 (vs. $632.00)

Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on February 14, 2018, 07:59:53 PM
Often J bags come first anyhow.
ExGingi flies cattle only
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on February 14, 2018, 08:05:46 PM
ExGingi flies cattle only on shorthaul flights, other than those that connect to longhaul flights.
FTFY

Often J bags come first anyhow.
That's no guarantee, I've had times when I had to wait a while, which is especially true coming off a connecting flight.

But flying without checked luggage allows you to be
in an Uber before bags even started coming out on the carousel, thanks to carry-ons only and GE.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: SrulyS on February 14, 2018, 08:10:53 PM
It would if you don't have checked bags which was not in the premise of the question.
Are you sure you read the questions right?
ETA: I see what you mean but I was applying it to 1 only in a scenario where 2 was also relevant.
I would find it very hard to believe that Delta would send AMEX a debit memo and that AMEX would follow up with you. I have done a bunch of HC with Orbitz, Expedia, Priceline etc' and never had a single issue.
Thanks

Why would that be a red flag?

I would say that most people that are able to travel without checking in bags would prefer to do so. I just did that recently. I was probably in an Uber before bags even started coming out on the carousel, thanks to carry-ons only and GE.
I didn't think it would be an issue but here was my reasoning; If the agents are suspicious that it is a HC they might wonder why you are flying long distance with only carry-ons (I know there is no issue with checked bags entering U.S.).

Anyway, thanks for the confirmation.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: md1030 on February 15, 2018, 10:05:59 AM
New to this and I have 2 questions:

Used UR to book AC YUL-TLV & TLV-EWR-YUL (UA/AC) return. Going to get off at EWR and leave.
1. Need to get to YUL. If I book on AC is it a red flag or should I take different airline? If on AC, canI get free bags from NYC-YUL?

2. How much "trouble" will I get checking in at TLV for return?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on February 15, 2018, 12:04:58 PM
New to this and I have 2 questions:

Used UR to book AC YUL-TLV & TLV-EWR-YUL (UA/AC) return. Going to get off at EWR and leave.
1. Need to get to YUL. If I book on AC is it a red flag or should I take different airline? If on AC, canI get free bags from NYC-YUL?

2. How much "trouble" will I get checking in at TLV for return?
No issue using AC.

Should be no issue in TLV, since your ticket says you actually left out of YUL and are officially returning there.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on February 18, 2018, 01:53:42 PM
UA EWR-TLV-EWR-HC, better to do short layover or long/overnight?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on February 18, 2018, 01:59:44 PM
UA EWR-TLV-EWR-HC, better to do short layover or long/overnight?
doesnt matter but be prepared
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shimino1 on February 18, 2018, 02:00:12 PM
UA EWR-TLV-EWR-HC, better to do short layover or long/overnight?
Always better to do long stopover IME
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on February 18, 2018, 03:57:39 PM
Always better to do long stopover IME
luggage is coming out regardless
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on March 21, 2018, 01:32:24 AM
Why isn't the wiki placed in
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coding that way you can copy and paste?
 Added to the wiki for those who find it easier to copy and paste.


US Airport list (Top 100):
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ABQ, ACY, ALB, ATL, AUS, BDL, BHM, BLI, BNA, BOI, BOS, BTV, BUF, BUR, BWI, CAK, CHS, CLE, CLT, CMH, COS, CVG, DAL, DAY, DCA, DEN, DFW, DSM, DTW, ELP, ERI, EWR, FAT, FLL, FNT, GEG, GRR, GSO, GSP, HOU, HPN, HSV, IAD, IAH, ICT, IND, ISP, JAX, JFK, LAS,LAX, LGA, LGB, LIT, MCI, MCO, MDT, MDW, MEM, MHT, MIA, MKE, MSN, MSP, MSY, OAK, OKC, OMA, ONT, ORD, ORF, PBI, PDX, PHF, PHL, PHX, PIT, PNS, PVD, PWM, RDU, RIC, RNO, ROC, SAN, SAT, SDF, SEA, SFO, SJC, SLC, SMF, SNA, STL, SYR, TPA, TUL, TUS, TYS
US Full List:
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ABE, ABI, ABQ, ABR, ABY, ACK, ACT, ACV, ACY, ADQ, AEX, AGS, AKN, ALB, ALO, ALW, AMA, ANC, ANI, ART, ASE, ATL, ATW, AUS, AVL, AVP, AZA, AZO, BDL, BET, BFI, BFL, BGM, BGR, BHB, BHM, BIL, BIS, BJI, BKG, BLD, BLI, BMI, BNA, BOI, BOS, BPT, BQK, BRD, BRO, BRW, BTM, BTR, BTV, BUF, BUR, BWI, BZN, CAE, CAK, CDV, CEC, CHA, CHO, CHS, CIC, CID, CIU, CKB, CLD, CLE, CLL, CLM, CLT, CMH, CMI, CMX, COD, COS, COU, CPR, CRP, CRW, CSG, CVG, CWA, CYS, DAB, DAL, DAY, DBQ, DCA, DEN, DFW, DHN, DLG, DLH, DRO, DRT, DSM, DTW, DUT, EAT, EAU, ECP, EGE, EKO, ELM, ELP, EMK, ENA, ENV, ERI, EUG, EVV, EWB, EWN, EWR, EYW, FAI, FAR, FAT, FAY, FCA, FLG, FLL, FLO, FMN, FNL, FNT, FOD, FOE, FRD, FSD, FSM, FWA, GAL, GCC, GCK, GCN, GCW, GEG, GFK, GGG, GJT, GNV, GPT, GRB, GRI, GRK, GRR, GSO, GSP, GTF, GTR, GUC, HDN, HGR, HHH, HIB, HLN, HNH, HNL, HOM, HOU, HPN, HRL, HSV, HTS, HVN, HYA, IAD, IAG, IAH, ICT, IDA, IFP, ILM, IND, INL, IPT, ISN, ISP, ITH, ITO, IYK, JAC, JAN, JAX, JFK, JHW, JNU, KMO, KOA, KTN, LAN, LAR, LAS, LAW, LAX, LBB, LCH, LEX, LFT, LGA, LGB, LIH, LIT, LMT, LNK, LNY, LRD, LSE, LWB, LWS, LYH, MAF, MBS, MCI, MCO, MCW, MDT, MDW, MEI, MEM, MFE, MFR, MGM, MGW, MHK, MHT, MIA, MKE, MKG, MKK, MLB, MLI, MLU, MMH, MOB, MOD, MOT, MQT, MRI, MRY, MSN, MSO, MSP, MSY, MTJ, MVY, MYR, OAJ, OAK, OGG, OKC, OMA, OME, ONT, ORD, ORF, ORH, OTH, OTZ, OWB, PAH, PBG, PBI, PDX, PGA, PGD, PGV, PHF, PHL, PHX, PIA, PIB, PIE, PIH, PIR, PIT, PLN, PNS, PQI, PSC, PSG, PSM, PSP, PTK, PUB, PUW, PVC, PVD, PVU, PWM, RAP, RDD, RDM, RDU, RFD, RHI, RIC, RIW, RKD, RKS, RNO, ROA, ROC, ROW, RST, RSW, SAF, SAN, SAT, SAV, SBA, SBN, SBP, SBY, SCC, SCE, SCK, SDF, SEA, SFB, SFO, SGF, SGU, SHD, SHR, SHV, SIT, SJC, SJT, SLC, SMF, SMX, SNA, SPI, SPS, SRQ, STC, STL, STS, SUN, SUX, SWF, SYR, TLH, TOL, TPA, TRI, TTN, TUL, TUP, TUS, TVC, TWF, TXK, TYR, TYS, UNK, UST, VDZ, VGT, VLD, VPS, WRG, WST, XNA, YAK, YKM, YNG, YUM
South America Airport List:
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AAX, ADZ, AEP, AFA,AFL, AGT, AJU, ANF, ANS, APO, AQP, ARI, ARU, ASI, ASU, ATM, AUC, AUX, AXM, AYP, BAQ, BAU, BBA, BEL, BGA, BHI, BHZ, BLA, BNS, BOG, BPS, BRA, BRC, BRM, BSB, BSC, BUE, BUN, BVB, BVH, CAC, CAY, CBB, CCM, CCP, CCS, CFB, CGB, CGH, CGR, CIJ, CIX, CJA, CJC, CKS, CLO, CMG, CNF, CNQ, COR, CPC, CPO, CPQ, CPV, CRD, CTC, CTG, CUC, CUE, CUM, CUP, CUZ, CWB, CXJ, CZE, CZS, CZU, DOU, EJA, EOH, EOZ, EQS, ERM, ESM, ESR, EYP, EZE, FEN, FLA, FLN, FMA, FOR, FRC, FTE, GDO, GEL, GEO, GIG, GPI, GPS, GRU, GVR, GYA, GYE, GYN, IBE, IGR, IGU, IMP, IOS, IPC, IPI, IPN, IQQ, IQT, IRJ, JDF, JDO, JOI, JPA, JPR, JUJ, JUL, LCR, LDB, LET, LGQ, LIM, LMC, LOH, LPB, LPD, LQM, LSC, LSP, LUQ, MAB, MAO, MAR, MCP, MCZ, MDE, MDQ, MDZ, MEC, MGF, MII, MOC, MPN, MRD, MTR, MUN, MVD, MVP, MVS, MZL, NAT, NQN, NQU, NVA, NVT, OCC, OPS, PBM, PCL, PCR, PDA, PDP, PEI, PEM, PET, PFB, PIN, PIU, PLU, PMC, PMV, PMW, PMY, PNZ, POA, PPB, PPN, PSO, PSS, PSZ, PUQ, PUU, PVA, PVH, PYH, PZO, RAO, RBQ, RBR, RCH, REC, REL, RES, RGA, RGL, RIA, RIB, RIG, RIO, ROO, ROS, RSA, RVE, SAO, SBL, SCL, SCY, SDE, SDU, SFD, SFN, SJE, SJK, SJP, SLA, SLZ, SMR, SNC, SOM, SRA, SRE, SRJ, SRZ, SSA, STD, STM, SVI, SVZ, TBP, TCO, TCQ, TDD, THE, TJA, TME, TMT, TPP, TRU, TUA, TUC, TUR, TYL, UAQ, UBA, UDI, UIB, UIO, URG, USH, VDC, VDM, VGZ, VIG, VIX, VLN, VLV, VUP, VVC, VVI, XAP, XMS, ZAL, ZCO, ZOS
Central America List:
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BEF, BOC, BZE, CHX, DAV, FRS, GUA, LCE, LIR, MGA, PAC,PTY, RTB, SAL, SAP, SJO, SYQ, TGU, TMU, XQP
North America FULL List:
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ABE, ABI, ABL, ABQ, ABR, ABY, ACA, ACK, ACT, ACV, ACY, ADK, ADQ, AET, AEX, AGM, AGN, AGS, AGU, AIA, AIN, AKB, AKI, AKK, AKN, AKP, AKV, ALB, ALM, ALO, ALS, ALW, ALZ, AMA, ANC, ANI, ANV, AOO, AOS, APF, APN, ARC, ART, ARV, ASE, ATK, ATL, ATT, ATW, ATY, AUG, AUK, AUS, AVL, AVP, AZA, AZO, BDL, BDR, BET, BFD, BFF, BFI, BFL, BGM, BGR, BHB, BHM, BID, BIL, BIS, BJI, BJX, BKC, BKW, BLD, BLI, BLV, BMI, BNA, BOI, BOS, BPT, BQK, BRD, BRL, BRO, BRW, BTI, BTM, BTR, BTT, BTV, BUF, BUR, BWI, BYH, BZN, CAE, CAK, CDB, CDC, CDR, CDV, CDW, CEC, CEM, CEN, CEZ, CFA, CGA, CGI, CHA, CHI, CHO, CHS, CHU, CIC, CID, CIK, CIU, CJS, CKB, CKD, CLD, CLE, CLL, CLM, CLP, CLQ, CLT, CME, CMH, CMI, CMX, CNM, CNP, CNY, COD, COS, COU, CPE, CPR, CRP, CRW, CSG, CSL, CTM, CUL, CUN, CUU, CVG, CVM, CVN, CWA, CXH, CYF, CYS, CZM, CZN, DAB, DAL, DAY, DBQ, DCA, DDC, DEC, DEN, DFW, DGO, DHN, DIK, DLG, DLH, DRG, DRO, DRT, DSM, DTT, DTW, DUJ, DUQ, DUT, DVL, EAA, EAR, EAT, EAU, EDA, EEK, EGE, EGV, EGX, EKO, ELI, ELM, ELP, ELV, EMK, ENA, ERI, ESC, ESD, EUG, EVV, EWB, EWN, EWR, EXI, EYW, FAI, FAR, FAT, FAY, FCA, FKL, FLG, FLL, FLO, FMN, FNL, FNT, FOD, FRD, FSD, FSM, FSP, FWA, FYU, GAL, GAM, GBD, GCC, GCK, GCN, GDL, GEG, GFK, GGG, GJT, GLH, GLV, GNU, GNV, GOH, GPT, GRB, GRK, GRR, GSO, GSP, GST, GTF, GTR, GUC, GYM, HAE, HCR, HDN, HHH, HIB, HKB, HLN, HMO, HNH, HNL, HNM, HNS, HOB, HOM, HON, HOU, HPB, HPN, HRL, HSL, HSV, HTS, HUS, HUX, HVN, HYA, HYG, HYL, HYS, IAD, IAH, IAN, ICT, IDA, IFP, IGG, IKO, ILF, ILI, ILM, IMT, IND, INL, INT, IPL, IPT, IRC, ISN, ISO, ISP, ITH, ITO, IWD, IYK, JAC, JAL, JAN, JAV, JAX, JCH, JEG, JFK, JFR, JGO, JHM, JHS, JHW, JMS, JNN, JNU, JQA, JST, KAE, KAL, KBC, KCC, KCG, KCL, KCQ, KEB, KEK, KEW, KFP, KGK, KGX, KIF, KKA, KKB, KKH, KKI, KKU, KLG, KLL, KLN, KLW, KMO, KMY, KNK, KNW, KOA, KOT, KOY, KOZ, KPB, KPC, KPN, KPR, KPV, KPY, KQA, KSM, KTB, KTN, KTS, KUK, KUS, KVC, KVL, KWF, KWK, KWN, KWP, KWT, KXA, KYK, KYU, KZB, LAK, LAN, LAP, LAR, LAS, LAW, LAX, LBB, LBE, LBF, LBL, LCH, LEB, LEX, LFT, LGA, LGB, LIH, LIT, LKE, LLU, LMA, LMM, LMT, LNK, LNY, LOV, LPS, LRD, LSE, LTO, LTS, LUP, LUR, LWB, LWS, LWT, LYH, LZC, MAF, MAM, MBL, MBS, MCG, MCI, MCK, MCN, MCO, MCW, MDT, MDW, MEI, MEM, MEX, MFE, MFR, MGE, MGM, MGW, MHK, MHT, MIA, MID, MKC, MKE, MKG, MKK, MLB, MLI, MLL, MLM, MLU, MLY, MMH, MNT, MOB, MOD, MOT, MOU, MQT, MRY, MSA, MSL, MSN, MSO, MSP, MSS, MSY, MTJ, MTM, MTT, MTY, MUE, MVY, MWA, MXL, MYL, MYR, MYU, MZT, NAQ, NIB, NIP, NKI, NLD, NLG, NME, NNL, NUI, NUL, NUP, NYC, OAJ, OAK, OAX, OBU, ODW, OGG, OGS, OKC, OLH, OMA, OME, ONL, ONT, OOK, ORD, ORF, ORI, ORL, ORV, OTH, OTZ, OXR, PAH, PAZ, PBC, PBG, PBI, PDB, PDS, PDT, PDX, PEC, PFN, PGA, PGM, PGV, PHF, PHL, PHO, PHX, PIA, PIB, PIE, PIH, PIP, PIR, PIT, PIW, PIZ, PKA, PKB, PLN, PMD, PML, PNS, PPE, PPV, PQI, PQS, PRC, PSC, PSG, PSP, PTA, PTH, PTK, PTU, PUB, PUW, PVC, PVD, PVR, PWK, PWM, PXM, QBC, QRO, RAP, RBY, RCE, RDB, RDD, RDM, RDU, RDV, REX, RFD, RHI, RIC, RIW, RKD, RKS, RMP, RNO, ROA, ROC, ROW, RSH, RSJ, RST, RSW, RUT, SAN, SAT, SAV, SBA, SBN, SBP, SBY, SCC, SCE, SCK, SCM, SCX, SDF, SDP, SDY, SEA, SFB, SFJ, SFO, SGF, SGU, SGY, SHD, SHG, SHH, SHR, SHV, SHX, SIT, SJC, SJD, SJT, SKK, SLC, SLE, SLK, SLN, SLP, SLQ, SLW, SMF, SMK, SMN, SMX, SNA, SNP, SOV, SOW, SPI, SPS, SRQ, SRV, SSC, SSM, STC, STG, STL, STS, SUN, SUR, SUX, SVA, SVC, SVS, SWF, SXP, SYB, SYR, TAL, TAM, TAP, TBN, TCT, TEB, TEX, TGZ, TIJ, TKE, TKJ, TLA, TLC, TLH, TLJ, TLT, TNC, TNK, TOG, TOL, TPA, TPQ, TRC, TRI, TSL, TUL, TUP, TUS, TVC, TVF, TWA, TWF, TXK, TYR, TYS, UAK, UGB, UGI, UIN, UMD, UNK, VAK, VCT, VDZ, VEE, VEL, VER, VLD, VPS, VSA, WAA, WAS, WBB, WBQ, WKK, WLK, WMK, WMO, WNA, WNN, WRG, WRL, WSN, WST, WSX, WTK, WTL, WWP, WWT, WYS, XBE, XBR, XCM, XFZ, XGR, XKS, XLB, XNA, XQU, XSI, XTL, YAA, YAC, YAG, YAK, YAM, YAT, YAX, YAY, YAZ, YBB, YBC, YBG, YBI, YBK, YBL, YBR, YBT, YBV, YBW, YBX, YCA, YCB, YCC, YCD, YCG, YCK, YCM, YCO, YCR, YCS, YCY, YDA, YDF, YDN, YDP, YDQ, YEA, YEG, YEK, YER, YEV, YFA, YFB, YFC, YFH, YFJ, YFO, YFS, YFX, YGB, YGG, YGH, YGK, YGL, YGO, YGR, YGT, YGV, YGW, YGX, YGZ, YHA, YHB, YHD, YHG, YHI, YHK, YHM, YHO, YHP, YHR, YHS, YHU, YHY, YHZ, YIF, YIK, YIO, YIV, YJT, YKA, YKF, YKG, YKL, YKM, YKQ, YKT, YKU, YLC, YLE, YLH, YLL, YLQ, YLW, YLY, YMH, YMM, YMN, YMO, YMQ, YMT, YNA, YNC, YND, YNE, YNG, YNO, YNP, YNS, YOC, YOG, YOH, YOJ, YOO, YOP, YOW, YPB, YPC, YPE, YPH, YPJ, YPL, YPM, YPO, YPR, YPW, YPX, YPZ, YQB, YQC, YQD, YQF, YQG, YQK, YQL, YQM, YQN, YQQ, YQR, YQT, YQU, YQX, YQY, YQZ, YRA, YRB, YRF, YRG, YRJ, YRL, YRS, YRT, YSB, YSG, YSH, YSJ, YSK, YSM, YSO, YST, YSY, YTD, YTE, YTF, YTH, YTL, YTM, YTO, YTQ, YTS, YTZ, YUB, YUD, YUL, YUM, YUT, YUX, YUY, YVB, YVM, YVO, YVP, YVQ, YVR, YVZ, YWB, YWG, YWH, YWJ, YWK, YWL, YWM, YWP, YWS, YXC, YXE, YXH, YXJ, YXK, YXL, YXN, YXP, YXS, YXT, YXU, YXX, YXY, YYB, YYC, YYD, YYE, YYF, YYG, YYH, YYJ, YYL, YYQ, YYR, YYT, YYU, YYY, YYZ, YZF, YZG, YZP, YZR, YZS, YZT, YZV, ZAC, ZBF, ZCL, ZEL, ZEM, ZFM, ZFN, ZGI, ZGS, ZIH, ZKE, ZKG, ZLO, ZLT, ZMT, ZNA, ZPB, ZRJ, ZSJ, ZTB, ZTM, ZUM
Caribbean Airport List:
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ANU, ASD, ATC, AUA, AXA, AXP, AZS, BCA, BDA, BGI, BIM, BON, BQN, BYM, CAP, CCC, CCZ, CIW, CMB, CMW, CRI, CUR, CYB, CYO, DOM, EIS, ELH, EUX, FDF, FPO, GAO, GBJ, GCM, GDT, GER, GGT, GHB, GND, HAV, HOG, IGA, KGL, KIN, KME, LGI, LRM, LSS, LYB, MAZ, MBJ, MDS, MHH, MNI, MOA, MYG, MZO, NAS, NCA, NEV, PAP, PLS, POP, POS, PSE, PTP, PUJ, RSD, SAB, SBH, SCU, SDQ, SFG, SJU, SKB, SLU, SLX, SML, SNU, SPB, SSB, STI, STT, STX, SVD, SXM, TAB, TBI, TCB, UPB, UVF, VIJ, VQS, VRA, VTU, XSC, ZSA
Canada TOP airport list:
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YAG, YAM, YAZ, YBG, YBL, YBS, YCC, YCD, YEG, YEV, YFC, YGK, YHD, YHZ, YKF, YLW, YMQ, YOJ, YOW, YPR, YPX, YQB, YQD, YQG, YQM, YQR, YQT, YQX, YQY, YSB, YSJ, YSL, YTS, YUL, YUY, YVO, YVR, YWG, YXE, YXS, YXU, YXY, YYC, YYG, YYJ, YYQ, YYR, YYT, YYZ, YZF, YZR, YZV
Canada FULL airport list:
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AKV, CJH, CXH, DAS, DUQ, ILF, KES, KEW, KIF, LAK, MSA, PIW, SSQ, SUR, WNN, WPL, XBE, XBR, XCM, XGR, XKS, XLB, XPK, XPP, XQU, XSI, XTL, YAA, YAB, YAC, YAG, YAH, YAL, YAM, YAT, YAU, YAW, YAW, YAX, YAY, YAZ, YBB, YBC, YBD, YBE, YBG, YBG, YBI, YBK, YBL, YBL, YBN, YBO, YBR, YBR, YBT, YBV, YBW, YBW, YBX, YCA, YCB, YCC, YCD, YCE, YCF, YCG, YCH, YCK, YCL, YCN, YCO, YCP, YCQ, YCR, YCS, YCW, YCX, YCY, YCZ, YDA, YDB, YDF, YDG, YDL, YDN, YDO, YDP, YDQ, YDT, YDV, YDW, YEG, YEK, YEL, YEM, YEN, YER, YET, YEU, YEV, YEY, YFA, YFB, YFC, YFC, YFE, YFH, YFO, YFR, YFS, YFX, YGB, YGE, YGG, YGH, YGK, YGL, YGM, YGO, YGP, YGQ, YGR, YGT, YGV, YGW, YGX, YGZ, YHA, YHB, YHD, YHE, YHF, YHG, YHI, YHK, YHM, YHM, YHN, YHO, YHP, YHR, YHT, YHU, YHY, YHZ, YIB, YIF, YIK, YIO, YIV, YJF, YJM, YJN, YJT, YKA, YKD, YKF, YKF, YKG, YKJ, YKK, YKL, YKQ, YKU, YKX, YKY, YKZ, YLC, YLD, YLH, YLJ, YLL, YLQ, YLR, YLS, YLT, YLW, YMA, YMB, YMB, YME, YMG, YMH, YMJ, YMJ, YML, YMM, YMN, YMO, YMP, YMT, YMW, YMX, YNA, YNC, YND, YNE, YNH, YNJ, YNL, YNM, YNO, YNS, YOA, YOC, YOD, YOD, YOG, YOH, YOJ, YOO, YOO, YOS, YOS, YOW, YOW, YOY, YPA, YPB, YPC, YPD, YPE, YPG, YPH, YPI, YPJ, YPL, YPM, YPN, YPO, YPQ, YPR, YPS, YPT, YPW, YPY, YPZ, YQA, YQB, YQB, YQC, YQD, YQF, YQG, YQH, YQI, YQK, YQL, YQM, YQM, YQN, YQQ, YQQ, YQR, YQS, YQT, YQU, YQV, YQW, YQX, YQY, YQY, YQZ, YRA, YRB, YRF, YRG, YRI, YRJ, YRL, YRM, YRN, YRQ, YRS, YRT, YRV, YSB, YSB, YSC, YSD, YSE, YSF, YSH, YSJ, YSK, YSL, YSM, YSN, YSN, YSO, YSP, YST, YSU, YSX, YSY, YTA, YTB, YTD, YTE, YTF, YTG, YTH, YTL, YTQ, YTR, YTR, YTS, YTT, YTZ, YTZ, YUB, YUD, YUL, YUT, YUX, YUY, YVB, YVC, YVE, YVM, YVO, YVP, YVQ, YVR, YVT, YVV, YVZ, YWA, YWG, YWH, YWJ, YWK, YWL, YWP, YWS, YWY, YXC, YXE, YXH, YXJ, YXJ, YXK, YXL, YXN, YXP, YXQ, YXR, YXS, YXT, YXT, YXU, YXX, YXY, YXZ, YYB, YYC, YYD, YYE, YYF, YYG, YYH, YYJ, YYL, YYN, YYQ, YYR, YYR, YYT, YYU, YYW, YYY, YYZ, YYZ, YZE, YZF, YZG, YZH, YZP, YZR, YZS, YZT, YZU, YZV, YZW, YZX, YZX, YZY, ZAC, ZBF, ZBM, ZEL, ZEM, ZFA, ZFD, ZFM, ZFN, ZGF, ZGI, ZGR, ZJG, ZJN, ZKE, ZLT, ZMH, ZMH, ZMT, ZNA, ZOF, ZPB, ZRJ, ZSJ, ZST, ZTB, ZTM, ZTS, ZUC, ZUM, ZWL
Europe Airport List (top 150):
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ABZ, ACE, AER, AGP, ALC, AMS, ARN, ATH, BBU, BCN, BEG, BFS, BGO, BGY, BHD, BHX, BIO, BLL, BLQ, BMA, BOD, BOO, BRE, BRI, BRS, BRU, BSL, BTS, BUD, CAG, CDG, CGN, CIA, CPH, CRL, CTA, CWL, DME, DRS, DTM, DUB, DUS, EDI, EMA, EVN, FAO, FCO, FLR, FMO, FNC, FRA, FUE, GCI, GDN, GLA, GOT, GRO, GVA, GYD, HAJ, HAM, HEL, HER, HHN, IBZ, IOM, JER, KBP, KEF, KGD, KRK, KRR, KTW, KUF, LBA, LCY, LED, LEJ, LGW, LHR, LIN, LIS, LJU, LPA, LPL, LTN, LUX, LYS, MAD, MAH, MAN, MCM, MJV, MLA, MRS, MUC, MXP, NAP, NCE, NCL, NTE, NUE, OLB, OPO, ORK, ORY, OSL, OTP, PIK, PMI, PMO, PRG, PSA, RHO, RIX, ROV, SIP, SKG, SNN, SOF, SOU, SPC, STN, STR, SVG, SVO, SVQ, SXB, SXF, TFN, TFS, TIA, TLL, TLS, TOS, TRD, TRF, TRN, TSR, TXL, VCE, VIE, VKO, VLC, VNO, VRN, WAW, WRO, ZAG, ZRH
Europe FULL list:
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AAL, AAQ, AAR, ABA, ABC, ACE, ACH, ADA, ADB, ADF, AER, AES, AEY, AGF, AGH, AGP, AHO, AJA, AJI, AJR, ALC, ALF, AMS, AMV, ANE, ANR, ANX, AOE, AOI, AOK, ARH, ARN, ARW, ASF, ASR, ATH, AUR, AVN, AXD, AYT, BAL, BAX, BAY, BBU, BCM, BCN, BDS, BDU, BEG, BER, BES, BGO, BGY, BIA, BIO, BIQ, BJF, BJV, BJZ, BKA, BLE, BLL, BLQ, BMA, BNN, BNX, BOD, BOJ, BOO, BQS, BRE, BRI, BRN, BRQ, BRU, BSL, BTK, BTS, BUD, BUH, BVA, BVE, BVG, BWK, BZG, BZO, BZR, CAG, CDG, CEE, CEK, CFE, CFN, CFR, CFU, CGN, CHQ, CIA, CKH, CKZ, CLJ, CLY, CMF, CND, CPH, CRA, CRL, CSH, CSY, CTA, CUF, CVU, CWC, CYX, DBV, DCM, DIY, DLM, DME, DNK, DNR, DNZ, DOK, DRS, DTM, DUB, DUS, DYR, EAS, EBA, EBJ, ECN, EDO, EFL, EGC, EGO, EGS, EIB, EIE, EIN, ENF, EPU, ERC, ERF, ERZ, ESB, ETZ, EUM, EVE, EVG, EZS, FAE, FAO, FCN, FCO, FDE, FDH, FKB, FLR, FLW, FMM, FMO, FNC, FOG, FRA, FRL, FRO, FSC, FUE, GDN, GDX, GEV, GIB, GMZ, GNB, GOA, GOJ, GOT, GPA, GRO, GRQ, GRV, GRW, GRX, GRY, GRZ, GSE, GVA, GWT, GWY, GZT, HAA, HAD, HAJ, HAM, HAU, HDB, HDF, HEL, HER, HFS, HFT, HGL, HHN, HMA, HMV, HOQ, HOR, HOV, HRK, HTA, HTG, HUV, HVG, IAA, IAS, IBZ, IEG, IEV, IFJ, IFO, IKS, IKT, ILZ, INI, INN, IOA, IST, IVL, IZM, JIK, JKG, JKH, JKL, JMK, JNX, JOE, JSH, JSI, JSY, JTR, JTY, JYV, KAJ, KAO, KBP, KCM, KDL, KEF, KEJ, KEM, KGD, KGP, KGS, KHE, KHV, KID, KIR, KIT, KIV, KJA, KKN, KLR, KLU, KLV, KLX, KOK, KRF, KRK, KRN, KRP, KRR, KRS, KSC, KSD, KSF, KSJ, KSO, KSU, KSY, KSZ, KTT, KTW, KUF, KUO, KVA, KVB, KVK, KWG, KXK, KYA, KYZ, KZI, KZN, KZS, LAI, LBC, LBG, LCA, LCG, LCJ, LDE, LDG, LDV, LED, LEH, LEI, LEJ, LEN, LGG, LIG, LIL, LIN, LIS, LJU, LKL, LKN, LLA, LMP, LNZ, LPA, LPI, LPK, LPP, LPX, LPY, LRH, LRS, LRT, LTT, LUG, LUX, LWO, LXS, LYC, LYR, LYS, MAD, MAH, MCX, MEH, MHG, MHP, MHQ, MIL, MJF, MJT, MJV, MJZ, MLA, MLN, MLO, MLX, MMA, MMK, MMX, MOL, MOW, MPL, MPW, MQF, MQM, MQN, MRS, MRV, MSQ, MSR, MST, MUC, MXN, MXP, MXX, MZH, NAP, NAV, NBC, NCE, NCY, NER, NJC, NLV, NNM, NOC, NOJ, NOZ, NRK, NSK, NTE, NUE, NUX, NVK, NYM, NYO, ODS, OER, OGZ, OHD, OHO, OLA, OLB, OMO, OMR, OMS, OPO, ORB, ORK, ORY, OSD, OSI, OSK, OSL, OSR, OSW, OSY, OSZ, OTP, OUL, OVB, OVD, OZH, PAD, PAR, PAS, PDL, PED, PEE, PEG, PES, PEX, PEZ, PFO, PGF, PGX, PIS, PIX, PJA, PKC, PLQ, PMF, PMI, PMO, PNA, PNL, POR, POZ, PRG, PRN, PSA, PSR, PUF, PUY, PVK, PWE, PXO, PYJ, RDZ, REG, REK, REN, RET, RHO, RIX, RJK, RJL, RKV, RLG, RMI, RNB, RNN, RNS, ROM, ROV, RRS, RTM, RTW, RVK, RVN, RYG, RZE, SAW, SBZ, SCN, SCQ, SCV, SCW, SDL, SDN, SDR, SFT, SGC, SGD, SIC, SIP, SJJ, SJY, SJZ, SKE, SKG, SKN, SKP, SKU, SLM, SLY, SMA, SMI, SNN, SNR, SOB, SOF, SOG, SOJ, SOO, SPC, SPU, SQO, SRP, SSJ, STO, STR, STW, SUF, SUJ, SVG, SVJ, SVL, SVO, SVQ, SVX, SXB, SXF, SXL, SZF, SZG, SZZ, TAT, TBW, TCE, TCI, TER, TFN, TFS, TGD, TGM, THN, THO, TIA, TIV, TJM, TKU, TLL, TLN, TLS, TMP, TOF, TOS, TPS, TQR, TRD, TRF, TRN, TRS, TSF, TSR, TUF, TXL, TYF, TZX, UCT, UDJ, UFA, UIP, ULY, UME, URE, URJ, URO, URS, USK, USQ, UUD, UUS, UWE, VAA, VAN, VAR, VAS, VAW, VBS, VBY, VCE, VDB, VDE, VDS, VEY, VGO, VHM, VIE, VIT, VKO, VKT, VLC, VLL, VNO, VOG, VOL, VOZ, VPN, VRK, VRN, VRY, VSG, VST, VVO, VXO, WAT, WAW, WRO, XRY, XWP, XWQ, XWZ, XXA, XXK, XXU, XYC, XYI, XYP, XYX, YEI, YKS, ZAD, ZAG, ZAZ, ZQW, ZRH, ZTH
UK Airport List:
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EMA, QCY, SQZ, ORM, NQT, WTN, ETR, BFC, CBG, QFO, BEQ, LKZ, LTN, KNF, MHZ, NWI, CLF, QUY, SEN, STN, BEQ, BQH, LHR, NHT, LCY, MME, NCL, BWF, CAX, LPL, BLK, MAN, ABB, BBP, BEX, BZZ, LGW, SOU, FAB, OXF, ESH, QLA, LYX, KRH, ODH, RCS, QUG, BBS, GLO, EXT, FFD, BOH, LYE, NQY, LEQ, ISC, UPV, BRS, YEO, CVT, BHX, DSA, HUY, LBA, HRT
Northern Ireland:
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BFS, BHD,  ENK, LDY
Scotland:
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ABZ, ADX, BEB, BRR, CAL, COL, CSA, DND, EDI, EOI, FIE, FOA, FSS, GLA, ILY, INV, KOI, LMO, LSI, NDY, NRL, OBN, OUK, PIK, PPW, PSL, PSV, SKL, SOY, SYY, TRE, WHS, WIC, WRY
Wales:
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CEG, CWL, HAW, SWS, VLY
Middle East Airport List:
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AAN, AAY, ABD, ABT, ACP, ACZ, ADE, ADJ, ADU, AHB, AJF, ALP, AMM, AQI, AQJ, AUH, AWZ, AZD, BAH, BDH, BEY, BHH, BJB, BND, BUZ, BXR, CQD, DAM, DEF, DEZ, DMM, DOH, DWD, DXB, EAM, EBL, EJH, ELQ, ETH, GBT, GIZ, GSM, GXF, HAS, HBT, HDM, HEA, HFA, HOD, HOF, IFN, IHR, IIL, IKA, JED, JYR, KAC, KBL, KER, KHS, KIH, KMC, KSH, KWI, LFM, LRR, LTK, MCT, MED, MHD, MZR, NSH, OMH, PFQ, RAE, RAH, RAS, RIY, RJN, RKT, RUH, RZR, SAH, SCT, SDG, SDV, SHJ, SHW, SLL, SRY, SYJ, SYZ, TAI, TBZ, THR, TIF, TLV, TUI, TUU, URY, VDA, WAE, XBJ, YES, YNB, ZAH, ZBR
Asia Airport List:
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AAT, ACX, AGR, AGX, AJL, AKA, AKJ, AKU, AKX, AKY, ALA, AMD, AMI, AMQ, AOJ, AOR, AQG, ASB, ASJ, ATQ, AXT, AZN, BAG, BAV, BBI, BBN, BCD, BDJ, BDO, BDP, BDQ, BEP, BFV, BHJ, BHK, BHO, BHR, BHU, BHV, BHY, BIK, BIR, BJS, BKI, BKK, BKM, BKS, BLR, BMO, BMU, BMV, BOM, BPN, BPX, BSD, BSO, BSX, BTH, BTJ, BTU, BUS, BWA, BWN, BXU, BYN, BZL, CAH, CAN, CBO, CCJ, CCK, CCU, CEB, CEI, CGD, CGK, CGM, CGO, CGP, CGQ, CGY, CIF, CIH, CIT, CJB, CJJ, CJL, CJU, CKG, CNX, COK, COQ, CRK, CRM, CSX, CTS, CTU, CXB, CXR, CYI, CYP, CYU, CZX, DAC, DAD, DAT, DAX, DBA, DDG, DEA, DED, DEL, DGT, DHM, DIB, DIG, DIL, DIN, DIU, DJB, DJJ, DLC, DLI, DLU, DLZ, DMK, DMU, DNH, DOP, DOY, DPL, DPS, DSN, DVO, DYG, DYU, DZN, ENE, ENH, ENI, ENY, EVN, FEG, FKQ, FKS, FNJ, FOC, FRU, FUG, FUJ, FUK, GAJ, GAN, GAU, GAY, GES, GIL, GMP, GOI, GOP, GOQ, GTO, GUW, GWD, GWL, GYD, HAC, HAK, HAN, HAQ, HBX, HCN, HDY, HEH, HEK, HET, HFE, HGH, HGN, HHQ, HIJ, HIN, HJR, HKD, HKT, HLD, HLH, HNA, HND, HOE, HPH, HRB, HSG, HSN, HTN, HUI, HUN, HVD, HYD, HYN, HZG, ICN, IDR, ILO, IMF, IMK, INC, IPH, IQM, IQN, ISB, ISG, ITM, IUE, IWJ, IXA, IXB, IXC, IXD, IXE, IXG, IXI, IXJ, IXL, IXM, IXR, IXS, IXU, IXW, IXY, IXZ, IZO, JAI, JDH, JDZ, JGA, JGN, JGS, JHB, JHG, JIU, JJN, JKT, JLR, JMU, JNZ, JOG, JOL, JRH, JSA, JSR, JUM, JUZ, JZH, KAW, KBR, KBV, KCA, KCF, KCH, KCZ, KDI, KDM, KDO, KDU, KEP, KET, KGF, KHG, KHH, KHI, KHM, KHN, KIJ, KIX, KKC, KKJ, KLH, KLO, KMG, KMI, KMJ, KMQ, KMV, KNG, KNH, KNU, KOE, KOJ, KOP, KOW, KPO, KRL, KRY, KSN, KSQ, KTE, KTM, KUA, KUD, KUH, KUL, KUT, KUU, KUV, KVD, KWE, KWJ, KWL, KYP, KZO, LAO, LBD, LBP, LBU, LCX, LDN, LDU, LGK, LGL, LGP, LHE, LHW, LIW, LJG, LKH, LKO, LLF, LMN, LNJ, LPQ, LPT, LSH, LTI, LUA, LUM, LUV, LWN, LWY, LXA, LXG, LYA, LYG, LYI, LYP, LZH, LZN, LZO, MAA, MBE, MBT, MDC, MDG, MDL, MES, MEY, MFK, MFM, MGZ, MIG, MJD, MKM, MKQ, MKW, MLE, MLG, MMB, MMY, MNL, MNU, MOF, MOG, MPH, MSJ, MUR, MUX, MWQ, MXV, MXZ, MYE, MYJ, MYT, MYY, MZG, MZV, NAG, NAJ, NAO, NAW, NAY, NBX, NCU, NDG, NGB, NGO, NGS, NHA, NKG, NMA, NNG, NNT, NNY, NRT, NST, NTG, NTQ, NYU, OBO, ODN, ODY, OGN, OIM, OIT, OKA, OKD, OKI, OKJ, ONJ, OSA, OSS, OZC, PAI, PAT, PBD, PBH, PBU, PDG, PEK, PEN, PEW, PGK, PHS, PIF, PJG, PKG, PKK, PKR, PKU, PKY, PKZ, PLM, PLW, PLX, PNH, PNK, PNQ, PPK, PPL, PPS, PQC, PUS, PVG, PWQ, PXU, PZI, RAJ, RDN, REP, RGN, RIS, RJA, RMQ, ROI, RPR, RSU, RUK, RUM, RXS, RYK, RZS, SBW, SCO, SDJ, SDK, SDT, SEL, SGN, SHA, SHB, SHE, SHL, SHM, SHP, SIA, SIF, SIN, SJI, SJW, SKD, SKH, SKT, SKZ, SLV, SNO, SNW, SOC, SOQ, SPK, SRG, STV, SUB, SUG, SUL, SWA, SXR, SYM, SYO, SYX, SZB, SZX, TAC, TAE, TAG, TAK, TAO, TAS, TBB, TBH, TBS, TCR, TDX, TEN, TGG, TGO, THL, THS, TIM, TIR, TJQ, TKG, TKN, TKS, TMC, TMJ, TNA, TNN, TOD, TOY, TPE, TPJ, TRK, TRV, TRZ, TSA, TSE, TSJ, TSN, TST, TTE, TTJ, TTT, TUG, TUK, TVY, TWT, TWU, TXN, TYN, TYO, UBJ, UBP, UDR, UEO, UET, UGC, UIH, UKB, UKK, ULN, ULO, UNN, UPG, URA, URC, URT, USM, USN, USU, UTH, UTP, UUN, UYN, VCL, VCS, VGA, VII, VKG, VNS, VRC, VTE, VTZ, WEF, WEH, WGP, WJU, WKJ, WNP, WNZ, WUA, WUH, WUS, WUX, WXN, XCH, XFN, XIC, XIL, XIY, XKH, XMN, XNN, XSP, XUZ, XZM, YBP, YGJ, YIH, YIN, YIW, YNJ, YNT, YNY, YNZ, ZAM, ZAT, ZHA, ZUH, ZVK, ZYL
Africa Airport List:
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AAE, AAM, ABJ, ABK, ABS, ABV, ACC, ADD,AEH, AGA, AHU, AJN, AKF, ALG, ALY, AMH, AMY, ANM, APL, ARK, ASA, ASM, ASO, ASV, ASW, ATB, ATR, ATZ, AXU, AZR, BBK, BBO, BEN, BEW, BFN, BGF, BJA, BJL, BJM, BJR, BKO, BKY, BLJ, BLZ, BMW, BNI, BOY, BPY, BSA, BSG, BSK, BUO, BUQ, BUX, BVC, BZV, CAB, CAI, CBH, CBQ, CBT, CFK, CIP, CKY, CMN, COO, CPT, CSK, CZL, DAR, DIE, DIR, DIS, DJE, DJG, DKR, DLA, DOG, DUE, DUR, DWB, DZA, EBB, EBD, EDL, EGN, ELF, ELG, ELS, ELU, ENU, ERH, ERS, ESU, EUN, FBM, FEZ, FIH, FKI, FNA, FRW, FTU, GAE, GAF, GAX, GBE, GDE, GDQ, GHA, GHT, GJL, GLK, GLN, GMA, GMB, GOM, GOU, GRJ, GXG, HAH, HBE, HDS, HGA, HIL, HLA, HME, HRE, HRG, HVA, IAM, IBA, ILR, INH, INZ, ION, JIB, JIJ, JIM, JNB, JRO, JUB, JVA, KAB, KAD, KAN, KFA, KGA, KIM, KIS, KMS, KND, KOU, KRT, KSL, KWZ, KYS, LAD, LAQ, LAU, LBV, LFW, LKG, LLI, LLW, LOS, LUD, LUN, LUO, LVI, LXR, MAK, MBA, MBD, MDK, MEG, MFU, MGH, MGQ, MIR, MJA, MJL, MJM, MJN, MKU, MLW, MMO, MNJ, MOQ, MPA, MPM, MQP, MQX, MRA, MRE, MRU, MSU, MSW, MSZ, MTS, MUB, MUH, MUZ, MVB, MVR, MWZ, MXM, MXT, MYD, MYW, MZI, NBO, NDB, NDJ, NDR, NGE, NIM, NKC, NLA, NOS, NOV, NSI, NWA, NYK, OFI, OGX, OMB, OMD, OND, ORN, OUA, OUD, OUE, OUZ, OXB, OYE, OYG, OZZ, PHC, PHG, PHW, PLZ, PMA, PNR, POG, POL, PRI, PTG, PZB, PZU, RAI, RAK, RBA, RCB, RMF, ROB, RRG, RUA, RUN, RVA, SDD, SEB, SEW, SEZ, SFA, SFL, SGX, SHC, SHY, SID, SKO, SLI, SMS, SNE, SPP, SRX, SSG, SSH, SSY, SVB, SZA, TBJ, TBO, TCH, TCP, TEE, TET, TGR, TIN, TIP, TKQ, TLE, TLM, TML, TMM, TMR, TMS, TMX, TNG, TNR, TOE, TOM, TTA, TTU, TUN, UAS, UEL, ULU, UTN, UTT, UYL, VFA, VHC, VIL, VNX, VPE, VPY, VVZ, VXC, VXE, WAQ, WDH, WHF, WIL, WMN, WTS, WVB, XLS, YVA, ZIG, ZNZ
Australia Airport List: Incomplete
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ABX, ADL, ALH, ARM, ASP, AVV, AYQ, BCI, BDB, BHQ, BHS, BKQ, BME, BNE, BNK, BWT, CBR, CCK, CED, CFS, CMA, CNJ, CNS, CPD, CTL, CVQ, DBO, DGE, DPO, DRW, ELC, EMD, EPR, GET, GFF, GFN, GLT, GOV, GTE, HBA, HID, HTI, HVB, ISA, KDC, KGI, KNS, KNX, KTA, LDH, LEA, LRE, LST, LSY, LVO, MCY, MEL, MGB, MIM, MJK, MKY, MMG, MNG, MOV, MQL, MRZ, MYA, NAA, NLK, NRA, NTL, OAG, ONS, OOL, OOM, PBO, PER, PHE, PKE, PLO, PPP, PQQ, PUG, RMA, ROK, SGO, SYD, TCA, TMW, TSV, WEI, WGA, WTB, WUN, WYA, XCH, XTG, ZNE
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Jeremiah on March 21, 2018, 08:49:41 AM
Wow thanks @myi
These were so hard to copy and paste on a phone!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on March 21, 2018, 09:09:14 AM
Why isn't the wiki placed in
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coding that way you can copy and paste?
I think you can just replace the wiki with this, to clear it up. You can keep the original data as a link posted in the commments here.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on March 21, 2018, 01:02:53 PM
I think you can just replace the wiki with this, to clear it up. You can keep the original data as a link posted in the commments here.
Good idea, was extremely hard to copy and paste like meantioned in the post above.
Wow thanks @myi
These were so hard to copy and paste on a phone!
Your welcome, took me forever trying to copy the airport codes, now with this it's a breeze.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on March 21, 2018, 01:06:33 PM
I think you can just replace the wiki with this, to clear it up. You can keep the original data as a link posted in the commments here.
It seems to be only one line which wouldn't be a big deal should each one of these copy and paste airport codes linky are placed right before mentioning all the airports of each country.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Essen est zich on April 10, 2018, 06:56:15 AM
It could have been mentioned before. I received a evoucher from United. Is it ok to use for a hidden city ticket?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on April 10, 2018, 07:08:49 AM
It could have been mentioned before. I received a evoucher from United. Is it ok to use for a hidden city ticket?
why wouldn't it be ok?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yosel on April 10, 2018, 08:58:30 AM
UA EWR-TLV-EWR-HC, better to do short layover or long/overnight?
what does HC stand for?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on April 10, 2018, 09:04:46 AM
what does HC stand for?
look at the title of the thread
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: beirush228 on April 15, 2018, 08:05:46 AM
What am I doing wrong?!! In the first box I put in the 100 Europe Airports from the wiki. I keep on getting an error message. Basically trying to travel from BKK to lax via Europe. Anyone?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on April 15, 2018, 08:23:48 AM
What am I doing wrong?!! In the first box I put in the 100 Europe Airports from the wiki. I keep on getting an error message. Basically trying to travel from BKK to lax via Europe. Anyone?
Origin: BKK.
Destination: LAX.
Advanced controls (first box): list of airports.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on April 15, 2018, 10:27:08 AM
What am I doing wrong?!! In the first box I put in the 100 Europe Airports from the wiki. I keep on getting an error message. Basically trying to travel from BKK to lax via Europe. Anyone?
make sure you didn't check nonstop
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: JACKBLUE on April 26, 2018, 03:19:23 PM
Booked CLE to MIA with stop in LGA.
Will my luggage come out in LGA?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zagguru on April 26, 2018, 03:20:00 PM
Booked CLE to MIA with stop in LGA.
Will my luggage come out in LGA?

MIA
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: nafnaf12 on April 26, 2018, 03:21:02 PM
Booked CLE to MIA with stop in LGA.
Will my luggage come out in LGA?
how long is the stop? You can ask for it to come out in JFK if it's a long stopover
Otherwise it'll come out at MIA
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: JACKBLUE on April 26, 2018, 03:23:34 PM
MIA
how long is the stop? You can ask for it to come out in JFK if it's a long stopover
Otherwise it'll come out at MIA
ouch.... it’s LGA not JFK
Stop is 2 hours
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: nafnaf12 on April 26, 2018, 03:24:20 PM
ouch.... it’s LGA not JFK
Stop is 2 hours
so it's going to MIA.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: JACKBLUE on April 26, 2018, 03:24:43 PM
how long is the stop? You can ask for it to come out in JFK if it's a long stopover
Otherwise it'll come out at MIA
how about if I only take a hand luggage and they make me check it in when I get to the plane? Same story?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: nafnaf12 on April 26, 2018, 03:28:42 PM
how about if I only take a hand luggage and they make me check it in when I get to the plane? Same story?
same story, but that's avoidable by boarding early and if they insist you can say you have medicine that you need every few hours etc..
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: JACKBLUE on April 26, 2018, 03:29:55 PM
same story, but that's avoidable by boarding early and if they insist you can say you have medicine that you need every few hours etc..
thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: SGF on April 26, 2018, 03:31:11 PM
how about if I only take a hand luggage and they make me check it in when I get to the plane? Same story?
If you have basic economy then nothing you can do about that.

On small planes like AA CLE-LGA will do 'Valet Check' (the red tag) and they will give that to you as soon as you arrive in LGA.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on April 26, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
how about if I only take a hand luggage and they make me check it in when I get to the plane? Same story?
99.9% of the time when you check the hand luggage on these planes it is delivered to the jetway in LGA.
On small planes like AA CLE-LGA will do 'Valet Check' (the red tag) and they will give that to you as soon as you arrive in LGA.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: JACKBLUE on April 26, 2018, 03:39:12 PM
If you have basic economy then nothing you can do about that.

On small planes like AA CLE-LGA will do 'Valet Check' (the red tag) and they will give that to you as soon as you arrive in LGA.
99.9% of the time when you check the hand luggage on these planes it is delivered to the jetway in LGA.
thanks. Canceled HC ticket and booked an award.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on April 26, 2018, 03:48:18 PM
If you have basic economy then nothing you can do about that.

On small planes like AA CLE-LGA will do 'Valet Check' (the red tag) and they will give that to you as soon as you arrive in LGA.
I've traveled from lga/jfk to yyz and vice versa multiple times on these tiny AA flights, I have taken my red tag off all the time while on that ramp to board the plane and brought my luggage on the plane without any problems, as well as mentioned when you check in your hand luggage right before you board they give it back to you right when you land you just wait on that ramp till they give it back to you.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on April 26, 2018, 04:42:47 PM
thanks. Canceled HC ticket and booked an award.
Your welcome.
But the point of my post was that HC from CLE-EWR is totally safe when you only have hand luggage. If you need to check luggage, than HC wont work for you.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: JACKBLUE on April 26, 2018, 04:44:00 PM
Your welcome.
But the point of my post was that HC from CLE-EWR is totally safe when you only have hand luggage. If you need to check luggage, than HC wont work for you.
i have a very big hand luggage/ didnt wanto take chances.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on May 01, 2018, 01:01:21 PM
has anyone done a HC with Porter Airlines from EWR through YTZ,

I want to know if they gate check hand luggage, does it get checked through to final destination or can I get it in YTZ
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on May 01, 2018, 01:23:13 PM
has anyone done a HC with Porter Airlines from EWR through YTZ,

I want to know if they gate check hand luggage, does it get checked through to final destination or can I get it in YTZ
    Your flying domestic but going to Canada which might cause all bags to come out, I'm not sure what the law is , meaning is it like coming from an international location or it's like flying within the US?
    Just tell them you have some medication and other stuff( some kosher food to eat during your layover) I can't imagine they're not going to give it back to you as it was only checked by the gate and assuming all those who are actually just taking that flight as a non-stop from New York to Toronto will get all their bags and all their hand luggage, meaning I don't think they will know who has a layover and who not, when I say they don't know meaning they don't mark anything down that you checked your hand luggage for the flight, which means they're going to take out your hand luggage which is put under the plane for the flight, almost every time luggage that was checked at the gate was always returned at the gate including strollers...

  So I doubt you have anything to worry, just to give you an example, if I tell you I'm on the same flight as you only difference between me and you is I'm taking a nonstop flight from New York to Toronto now they made me check my hand luggage at the gate, I place that red tag on my hand luggage and handed it to the baggage carrier right before I boarded the plane and they told me I'm going to get my luggage back when we land, now there's no names on the hand baggage except for a ticket number so they're going to bring out everyone's hand baggage they put under the plane for that flight and not leaving  anything behind.

  If my logic doesn't make any sense feel free to correct me.

  In other words I think you're safe, and if you still feel insecure just tell them you have important stuff in it which you would need during your 2 or 4 hour layover.

  Have a safe flight.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ah giten on May 06, 2018, 03:18:06 AM
    Your flying domestic but going to Canada which might cause all bags to come out, I'm not sure what the law is , meaning is it like coming from an international location or it's like flying within the US?
    Just tell them you have some medication and other stuff( some kosher food to eat during your layover) I can't imagine they're not going to give it back to you as it was only checked by the gate and assuming all those who are actually just taking that flight as a non-stop from New York to Toronto will get all their bags and all their hand luggage, meaning I don't think they will know who has a layover and who not, when I say they don't know meaning they don't mark anything down that you checked your hand luggage for the flight, which means they're going to take out your hand luggage which is put under the plane for the flight, almost every time luggage that was checked at the gate was always returned at the gate including strollers...

  So I doubt you have anything to worry, just to give you an example, if I tell you I'm on the same flight as you only difference between me and you is I'm taking a nonstop flight from New York to Toronto now they made me check my hand luggage at the gate, I place that red tag on my hand luggage and handed it to the baggage carrier right before I boarded the plane and they told me I'm going to get my luggage back when we land, now there's no names on the hand baggage except for a ticket number so they're going to bring out everyone's hand baggage they put under the plane for that flight and not leaving  anything behind.

  If my logic doesn't make any sense feel free to correct me.

  In other words I think you're safe, and if you still feel insecure just tell them you have important stuff in it which you would need during your 2 or 4 hour layover.

  Have a safe flight.
wow!! a real loyal Presidential Platinum Elite DDFer!! your'e really devoted...
 another few elites like you would'nt be bad..
not to mock other elites as I fully understand them too well, but I just had to note this
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on May 06, 2018, 07:43:48 AM
wow!! a real loyal Presidential Platinum Elite DDFer!! your'e really devoted...
 another few elites like you would'nt be bad..
not to mock other elites as I fully understand them too well, but I just had to note this
My pleasure , if I can help why not.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: nucheiner on May 23, 2018, 04:10:12 PM
REMINDER: If you're doing HC with the ticketed destination being international, for example Mexico, Canada etc even if your only taking the domestic leg for ex. ORD-JFK and not continuing to YYZ etc YOU MUST BRING A PASSPORT.
 They may deny boarding the first leg if you can't show a passport.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PBaruch on May 23, 2018, 04:20:55 PM
REMINDER: If you're doing HC with the ticketed destination being international, for example Mexico, Canada etc even if your only taking the domestic leg for ex. ORD-JFK and not continuing to YYZ etc YOU MUST BRING A PASSPORT.
 They may deny boarding the first leg if you can't show a passport.

Forget about denying boarding, they probably wont let you check in without a passport.  On UA, I had to scan passports into the app to check in. 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: izmoman on May 29, 2018, 02:07:33 PM
RE:  Notice of Claim Pertaining to Point Beyond Ticketing and Demand for Reimbursement

 

 Mr. ...,

 

It has come to United Airlines’ attention that on multiple occasions you have violated the “Prohibited Practices” outlined in Rule 6 of United’s Contract of Carriage.

 

United identified 16 instances since September of 2016 where you engaged in “Point Beyond Ticketing,” which is the unauthorized purchase of a ticket to a destination more distant than your actual destination.  As shown below, the last segment of each ticket was not used.  By including the additional segment, you were able to purchase your ticket at a lower fare.  Please note that no irregular operations were involved in these itineraries to prevent you from making the connecting flight.

(then it lists all the dates, destinations and their "loss" and how much he owes them)



Such conduct constitutes fraud and a violation of Rule 6 of United’s Contract of Carriage.  Accordingly, United demands that you cease and desist these unauthorized practices immediately and that you reimburse United in the amount of $5,173.12 which represents the difference between the cost of the tickets that you purchased and the cost of the travel taken, within 10 business day of receipt of this letter.

 

Please remit payment directly to me via credit card or a check made out to “United Airlines, Inc.” and send to:

 

                                                United Airlines, Inc.

                                                233 S. Wacker 28th floor

                                                Chicago, IL 60606

                                                ATTN: Sue Weiler

                                               

If you do not make the requested payment, United Airlines reserves its right to take further action, including submitting United’s claim to an outside collection agency, terminating your MileagePlus membership and/or refusing to transport you on future flights in accordance with Rule 21 of the Contract of Carriage. If you have questions regarding this letter, feel free to contact me via MPCompliance@united.com

               

                                                                                                Sincerely,

                                                                                                Sue Weiler

                                                                                                Corporate Security

                                                                                                United Airlines

                                                                                                MPCompliance@united.com

Two part question. Do they have a legal right to collect (I know that skiplagged won in court a few years ago)? And will they really ban me?

 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on May 29, 2018, 02:17:13 PM
Saw this on a whatsapp group a few months ago with details on where the hidden keg destination was to.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: JACKBLUE on May 29, 2018, 02:23:11 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=84143.msg1814468#msg1814468
He should know the answer to your question!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on May 29, 2018, 02:32:16 PM
My friend just received this email from United for booking hidden city:

It has come to United Airlines’ attention that you have violated the “Prohibited Practices” outlined in Rule 6(J) of United’s Contract of Carriage.
 
On April 26, 2016, United identified an instance where you and two children engaged in “Point Beyond Ticketing,” which is the unauthorized purchase of a ticket to a destination more distant than your actual destination.  The last segment of the ticket was not used from Cleveland to Milwaukee.  By including the additional segment, you were able to purchase your ticket at a lower fare.
 
Such conduct constitutes, among other things, fraud and a violation of Rule 6(J) of United’s Contract of Carriage, available for review via united.com.  Accordingly, United demands that you cease and desist this unauthorized practice immediately.
 
If you  continue to book and/or have tickets issued  in this manor, United reserves the right to take further action, including closing your MileagePlus account, filing suit against you to collect the amount owed and/or refusing to transport you on future flights in accordance with Rule 21 of the Contact of Carriage.
 
We sincerely hope no further action will be necessary.
 
Susan Weiler
Corporate Security
United Airlines


Same person here.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yelped on May 29, 2018, 02:34:44 PM
Same person here.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/susan-weiler-ab457529/
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on May 29, 2018, 02:37:04 PM
https://www.linkedin.com/in/susan-weiler-ab457529/

Ha, was just checking that before you posted :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Z56 on May 29, 2018, 02:42:24 PM
Ha, was just checking that before you posted :)
same here
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yammer on May 29, 2018, 02:43:59 PM
Saw this on a whatsapp group a few months ago with details on where the hidden keg destination was to.  Good luck!
They went after some of the trips that we're litterly $10.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yammer on May 29, 2018, 02:44:21 PM
My friend just received this email from United for booking hidden city:

It has come to United Airlines’ attention that you have violated the “Prohibited Practices” outlined in Rule 6(J) of United’s Contract of Carriage.
 
On April 26, 2016, United identified an instance where you and two children engaged in “Point Beyond Ticketing,” which is the unauthorized purchase of a ticket to a destination more distant than your actual destination.  The last segment of the ticket was not used from Cleveland to Milwaukee.  By including the additional segment, you were able to purchase your ticket at a lower fare.
 
Such conduct constitutes, among other things, fraud and a violation of Rule 6(J) of United’s Contract of Carriage, available for review via united.com.  Accordingly, United demands that you cease and desist this unauthorized practice immediately.
 
If you  continue to book and/or have tickets issued  in this manor, United reserves the right to take further action, including closing your MileagePlus account, filing suit against you to collect the amount owed and/or refusing to transport you on future flights in accordance with Rule 21 of the Contact of Carriage.
 
We sincerely hope no further action will be necessary.
 
Susan Weiler
Corporate Security
United Airlines
Update?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: JACKBLUE on May 29, 2018, 02:45:12 PM
Update?
you need to tag him! @evanstall
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yammer on May 29, 2018, 02:52:23 PM
you need to tag him! @evanstall
Can't tag on Tapa
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: momo on May 29, 2018, 03:38:19 PM
They went after some of the trips that we're litterly $10.
a person that uses hc for $10 kinda has it coming. I use it occasionally but never for ten bux. That’s just stupid.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: JACKBLUE on May 29, 2018, 03:56:39 PM
a person that uses hc for $10 kinda has it coming. I use it occasionally but never for ten bux. That’s just stupid.
+1
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on May 29, 2018, 04:28:00 PM
Update?

Update on what? This was only a warning not to continue.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: farmbochur on May 29, 2018, 04:41:13 PM
I guess the עצה is to diversify HC abuse across multiple airlines. Or maybe just avoid UA.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on May 29, 2018, 04:41:47 PM
I guess the עצה is to diversify HC abuse across multiple airlines. Or maybe just avoid UA.
or MAYBE dont credit it to UA
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yammer on May 29, 2018, 04:49:13 PM
a person that uses hc for $10 kinda has it coming. I use it occasionally but never for ten bux. That’s just stupid.
+1
He didn't only have $10 differences, but he had some that did...
Update on what? This was only a warning not to continue.
Just skimmed, thought he was charged
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on May 29, 2018, 08:02:01 PM
Update on what? This was only a warning not to continue.
It seems to clearly say that he has to bay the balance.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on May 29, 2018, 08:22:04 PM
It seems to clearly say that he has to bay the balance.

2 different letters here. The one posted today talks about paying a balance. The one quoted from a few years ago was only a warning, so no update needed there.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: as2 on May 29, 2018, 08:25:54 PM
2 different letters here. The one posted today talks about paying a balance. The one quoted from a few years ago was only a warning, so no update needed there.
I see. So what's the deal with the one demanding payment?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Mushkie10 on July 05, 2018, 06:25:41 PM
If I buy ticket say ORD>LGA>YYZ, will I get baggage in NYC because the last leg is international? Is anyone familiar with this?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: brodes18 on July 05, 2018, 06:36:22 PM
If I buy ticket say ORD>LGA>YYZ, will I get baggage in NYC because the last leg is international? Is anyone familiar with this?
Your luggage will not come out at LGA. It may delay the flight to YYZ since you won't be on it.

International flight TO the US have luggage come out on the first US destination for customs clearance. No such luck on the way out.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on July 05, 2018, 07:42:36 PM
Your luggage will not come out at LGA. It may delay the flight to YYZ since you won't be on it.

International flight TO the US have luggage come out on the first US destination for customs clearance. No such luck on the way out.
In the above example (but reversed) it wouldn't either come out in LGA, since there would be US Customs Pre-Clearence in YYZ.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yelped on July 18, 2018, 02:52:47 PM
FYI: https://mobile.twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1018669344128208896
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on July 18, 2018, 03:03:43 PM
FYI: https://mobile.twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1018669344128208896
(https://i.imgur.com/XY0VjBE.png)

Quote
Play by the rules and you 'aint the enemy

Just don't forget that those rules are extremely lopsided to benefit the airlines. The contract of carriage doesn't obligate them to get you to any specific place at any specific time.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/columnist/mcgee/2017/07/12/airline-contract-carriage/469916001/
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: 12HRS on July 20, 2018, 02:49:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/E8GTQty.png)

would you be able to skip the second leg for this itinerary and keep luggage?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: sb5917 on July 23, 2018, 02:40:08 PM
not coming up in ita
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: elya on July 23, 2018, 03:52:47 PM
not coming up in ita
Matrix dosent show 2 connections.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on July 23, 2018, 04:02:16 PM
Matrix dosent show 2 connections.
It sure does. The screenshot even shows other airlines with 2 connections.

not coming up in ita
You can try forcing the flight numbers into the Advanced Routing Codes box to pull it up.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: sb5917 on July 23, 2018, 04:08:00 PM
here u have 2 stops
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: sb5917 on July 23, 2018, 04:09:22 PM
You can try forcing the flight numbers into the Advanced Routing Codes box to pull it up.
how?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on July 23, 2018, 04:21:33 PM
how?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: sb5917 on July 23, 2018, 04:28:34 PM

not gaining anything if im just searching for cheap nyc-tlv flight
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on July 23, 2018, 04:49:04 PM
not gaining anything if im just searching for cheap nyc-tlv flight
You never specified what you’re trying to gain, just the fact that those specific flights were not showing up.

I was saying that if you do want them to show up (for whatever reason), you can force it.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 23, 2018, 04:53:07 PM
Matrix dosent show 2 connections.



It sure does. The screenshot even shows other airlines with 2 connections.
IINM you can do "X X" for two mandatory stops, but you can't do two specific ones. Or if you allow up to two stops it will show it as well
You can try forcing the flight numbers into the Advanced Routing Codes box to pull it up.
Interesting, does it work?
not gaining anything if im just searching for cheap nyc-tlv flight
So why are you trying to force any of it?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on July 23, 2018, 04:55:28 PM
Interesting, does it work?
Look 3 posts up.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 23, 2018, 04:56:31 PM
Look 3 posts up.
The more you know!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: sb5917 on July 23, 2018, 09:43:42 PM
You never specified what you’re trying to gain, just the fact that those specific flights were not showing up.

I was saying that if you do want them to show up (for whatever reason), you can force it.
Im trying to get the cheapest nyc-tlv-nyc
used ita cheapest was about $1300
Checked bos was less then $1200
Trying to figure out what i was doing wrong
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: farmbochur on July 23, 2018, 11:03:03 PM
anything to be mindful of when booking PIT-LGA-YUL as a hidden city? other than bringing my passport with.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on July 23, 2018, 11:27:00 PM
anything to be mindful of when booking PIT-LGA-YUL as a hidden city? other than bringing my passport with.
No luggage, and safe travels.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 23, 2018, 11:28:20 PM


Safe travels.
This one is very important, don't forget.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on July 23, 2018, 11:38:58 PM
This one is very important, don't forget.
As they say safety comes first.
  Besides for your passport your basically taking a domestic flight which has no reason for concern.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 24, 2018, 02:07:51 AM
Im trying to get the cheapest nyc-tlv-nyc
used ita cheapest was about $1300
Checked bos was less then $1200
Trying to figure out what i was doing wrong
Matrix just doesn't work sometimes
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yosel on August 06, 2018, 11:30:27 AM
will hc work for business class as well?  Looking for NYC-TLV Aug 7-Aug 12
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on August 06, 2018, 11:32:43 AM
will hc work for business class as well? 
sure
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: flyingace on August 12, 2018, 03:34:40 PM
Any recent data points on using a United HC from TLV? Are they still harassing people to find out if they are truly connecting onward?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: nafnaf12 on August 12, 2018, 03:35:41 PM
Any recent data points on using a United HC from TLV? Are they still harassing people to find out if they are truly connecting onward?
haven't heard of anything lately. It was one night manager that was causing issues afaik
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Danlover111 on August 12, 2018, 03:43:50 PM
just make the last ticket the next day  so it will not print the boarding pass in tlv ...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zagguru on September 27, 2018, 06:53:24 AM
NAS-IAD with JFK as hidden city: will I be able to pick up bags in JFK? Its an international flight so should be fine correct?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: jfkeze on September 27, 2018, 08:05:23 AM
NAS-IAD with JFK as hidden city: will I be able to pick up bags in JFK? Its an international flight so should be fine correct?

NAS has pre-clearance so similar to YYZ or DUB. Your bags will end up in IAD... :/
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on September 27, 2018, 11:23:51 AM
NAS-IAD with JFK as hidden city: will I be able to pick up bags in JFK? Its an international flight so should be fine correct?
See if you can get it to price with an airport change in NYC.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: jolee on September 27, 2018, 01:14:22 PM
I always use skiplagged but double check with ITA Matrix first.

Are there any new sites that are either faster or more comprehensive than skiplagged/ITA Matrix?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zagguru on September 27, 2018, 05:55:06 PM
See if you can get it to price with an airport change in NYC.

I cant get an airport change, but its an overnight layover of 12 hours+. Does that matter?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: sb5917 on September 27, 2018, 08:17:08 PM
Should be ok
I cant get an airport change, but its an overnight layover of 12 hours+. Does that matter?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chaimdasap on September 28, 2018, 12:41:45 AM
Anyone know of a good destination that I can add on to end me up in cape town? Flying from jfk in j ticket is priced at 8k
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on September 28, 2018, 12:46:08 AM
Anyone know of a good destination that I can add on to end me up in cape town? Flying from jfk in j ticket is priced at 8k
Book RT it'll be cheaper.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zagguru on September 28, 2018, 07:12:04 AM
Should be ok

I found one with an 18 hour layover.
Should be okay meaning what? Itll be automatically ticketed to JFK or I will have to request it and they may accommodate me?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on September 28, 2018, 07:54:26 AM
I found one with an 18 hour layover.
Should be okay meaning what? Itll be automatically ticketed to JFK or I will have to request it and they may accommodate me?
You have to request
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lindnuck on October 12, 2018, 05:00:12 PM
Just booked LAX-IST on AF but planning on ditching the second leg and staying in CDG.

I looked it up and while you need a visa for Turkey, you can get one when you land, so I wouldn't think AF would need to see one before letting you board in LA.

Anything AF is going to demand to see, other than a passport, to start the first leg?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chff on October 12, 2018, 05:11:35 PM
Just booked LAX-IST on AF but planning on ditching the second leg and staying in CDG.

I looked it up and while you need a visa for Turkey, you can get one when you land, so I wouldn't think AF would need to see one before letting you board in LA.

Anything AF is going to demand to see, other than a passport, to start the first leg?
Re Visa, it's a VOA. You might have an issue with baggage if you are planning to check
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lindnuck on October 12, 2018, 05:13:24 PM
Re Visa, it's a VOA. You might have an issue with baggage if you are planning to check

Thanks; no bags to check.

After a few days in Paris, plan is to have a separate flight on AF CDG-TLV. Do you think they will do anything to that reservation after they see I skipped out on the CDG-IST flight?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chff on October 12, 2018, 05:13:59 PM
Thanks; no bags to check.

After a few days in Paris, plan is to have a separate flight on AF CDG-TLV. Do you think they will do anything to that reservation after they see I skipped out on the CDG-IST flight?
They will cancel it... It's a round trip?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on October 12, 2018, 05:14:34 PM
Thanks; no bags to check.

After a few days in Paris, plan is to have a separate flight on AF CDG-TLV. Do you think they will do anything to that reservation after they see I skipped out on the CDG-IST flight?
Shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lindnuck on October 12, 2018, 05:25:15 PM
They will cancel it... It's a round trip?

No, completely separate bookings on different PNR, but booked with the same FB account.  Though I could play it safe and book the second with my wife's FB account.

- PNR#1: LAX-IST

- PNR#2: CDG-TLV, 3 days later

Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lindnuck on October 12, 2018, 05:25:44 PM
Shouldn't be a problem.
Thank you
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lindnuck on October 12, 2018, 05:26:53 PM
One last question:

Any chance, if I called AF now that it is booked, that they would agree to just cancel the 2nd leg? Say my plans changed due to the situation in Turkey? Or would that just open me up to trouble?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 12, 2018, 05:42:18 PM
No chance. Just relax, nobody who goes to Turkey has a visa when they check in bc you only get it when you land. Imagine you're going to Turkey until you change your mind in Paris.

Nobody will cancel your next res, take it from someone who routinely has multiple res with hidden cities in diff directions on the same day
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lindnuck on October 12, 2018, 05:43:46 PM
No chance. Just relax, nobody who goes to Turkey has a visa when they check in bc you only get it when you land. Imagine you're going to Turkey until you change your mind in Paris.

Nobody will cancel your next res, take it from someone who routinely has multiple res with hidden cities in diff directions on the same day

Your post makes me rest easy. Thanks PG.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: cohen220 on October 14, 2018, 10:15:42 AM
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2018/10/14/united-airlines-threatens-to-trash-the-credit-of-passengers-who-skip-purchased-flights/
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yelped on October 14, 2018, 10:54:07 AM
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2018/10/14/united-airlines-threatens-to-trash-the-credit-of-passengers-who-skip-purchased-flights/
Old news. Actual letters have been posted here in the past. Always same lady sending them.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: helpyouamdme on October 14, 2018, 10:55:06 AM
Old news. Actual letters have been posted here in the past. Always same lady sending them.
How about to credit it to other airlines not United?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: BP16 on October 14, 2018, 01:55:26 PM
How could it hurt your credit they only have your name and DOB they dont have any SSN.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on October 14, 2018, 01:56:57 PM
How could it hurt your credit they only have your name and DOB they dont have any SSN.
Credit isn't officially tracked my SSN.
It was stolen for that.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on October 16, 2018, 01:38:33 AM
Whats the purpose of the this checkbox? Only show flights and prices with available seats

 For a flight from lax to nyc i see for 132 and yes not bookable when its unchecked, but then when checked i see flights for 240 which are bookable.
 why would someone want to see flights which are not bookable?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: helpyouamdme on October 16, 2018, 09:45:52 AM
Whats the purpose of the this checkbox? Only show flights and prices with available seats

 For a flight from lax to nyc i see for 132 and yes not bookable when its unchecked, but then when checked i see flights for 240 which are bookable.
 why would someone want to see flights which are not bookable?
wait list
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on October 16, 2018, 09:48:32 AM
Whats the purpose of the this checkbox? Only show flights and prices with available seats

 For a flight from lax to nyc i see for 132 and yes not bookable when its unchecked, but then when checked i see flights for 240 which are bookable.
 why would someone want to see flights which are not bookable?
It's a fare class which isn't currently available.
If you wanna see the price for the cheapest fare class...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on October 18, 2018, 05:50:31 AM
Is it a big no no to do a HC on an award ticket and make up and excuse for missing the second leg?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 18, 2018, 08:14:05 AM
Is it a big no no to do a HC on an award ticket and make up and excuse for missing the second leg?
Excuse to who?

Not a problem
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitzyul on November 04, 2018, 12:03:26 PM
Do I have to be concerned giving my mileage # on hidden city? I dont do it that often and a shame not to get the miles (might not be worth if get penalized)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Saybcbd on November 04, 2018, 12:11:25 PM
Do I have to be concerned giving my mileage # on hidden city? I dont do it that often and a shame not to get the miles (might not be worth if get penalized)
If you only do it once in a while it shouldn't be an issue but if you wanna be safe credit the flight to a partner frequent flyer program
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on November 04, 2018, 12:12:04 PM
what can i add for a one way NYC-TLV
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on November 04, 2018, 02:03:52 PM
what can i add for a one way NYC-TLV
A return
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ludmila on November 04, 2018, 08:14:13 PM
A return
Maybe it is just a one way returning back? :)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ruv on November 04, 2018, 10:57:22 PM
what can i add for a one way NYC-TLV

Search ITA for nyc-tlv-anywhere in Europe-anywhere in the US.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on November 04, 2018, 11:34:36 PM
Search ITA for nyc-tlv-anywhere in Europe-anywhere in the US.
Can't do anywhere in Europe anymore.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ruv on November 04, 2018, 11:41:19 PM
Works for me when entering 1 Europe airport and using “nearby”.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on November 05, 2018, 07:01:56 AM
Maybe it is just a one way returning back? :)
Doesn’t need to use it, just book it to get the pricing.

Can't do anywhere in Europe anymore.
You can as the second leg of a multi city, just not the first.

Can also try the return out of CAI (if you have no plans to visit the US again in the next year).
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yosel on November 06, 2018, 01:07:04 PM
how do i check on ITA a round trip HC? , ie; NYC to TLV ......HC dates 11/10 coming back 11/16
TIA
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 06, 2018, 01:10:20 PM
how do i check on ITA a round trip HC? , ie; NYC to TLV ......HC dates 11/10 coming back 11/16
TIA
What are trying to do?
NYC-TLV-NYC-HC? Wont help much if at all.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yosel on November 06, 2018, 01:18:26 PM
What are trying to do?
NYC-TLV-NYC-HC? Wont help much if at all.
used to work...... not anymore?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 06, 2018, 01:19:24 PM
used to work...... not anymore?
Search as a multi city for NYC-TLV-HC with a mandatory stop in NYC
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yosel on November 06, 2018, 01:25:33 PM
Search as a multi city for NYC-TLV-HC with a mandatory stop in NYC
thanks, works
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 06, 2018, 01:25:58 PM
thanks, works
Saved money?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ADG on November 06, 2018, 01:36:15 PM
What is HC?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 06, 2018, 01:38:25 PM
What is HC?
Thread name.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yosel on November 06, 2018, 01:40:11 PM
Saved money?
yes
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 06, 2018, 01:42:44 PM
yes
What routing? Airline? Amount saved?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on November 06, 2018, 01:47:25 PM
What are trying to do?
NYC-TLV-NYC-HC? Wont help much if at all.
Definitely works and saves money
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 06, 2018, 01:48:16 PM
Definitely works and saves money
I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ruv on November 06, 2018, 02:00:24 PM
Random search, on first try:

Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: JACKBLUE on November 06, 2018, 02:18:23 PM
Definitely works and saves money
+1
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: jose34 on November 07, 2018, 06:42:05 PM
Yeah they used to have such deals to BWI till United canceled the EWR  - BWI route.  :(
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yelped on November 07, 2018, 06:56:07 PM
Any issues with ElAl hidden city?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Abe10001 on November 10, 2018, 11:19:19 PM
Definitely works and saves money

Quick question - nyc-tlv-jfk-yul
Will I get my bags in NY even though my final is not USA?
Any issues with delta @ TLV?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Abe10001 on November 12, 2018, 07:08:12 AM
Quick question - nyc-tlv-jfk-yul
Will I get my bags in NY even though my final is not USA?
Any issues with delta @ TLV?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: travel agent on November 12, 2018, 04:07:10 PM
Quick question - nyc-tlv-jfk-yul
Will I get my bags in NY even though my final is not USA?
Any issues with delta @ TLV?

you will get the bags
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mochjas on November 12, 2018, 04:25:38 PM
you will get the bags
and no issues just be smart and remember you are going to YUL and not JFK
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on November 13, 2018, 01:01:41 AM
Quick question - nyc-tlv-jfk-yul
Will I get my bags in NY even though my final is not USA?
Any issues with delta @ TLV?
If you want to have extra peace of mind, just book the third segment of the multi city as a separate flight the next day, it should price out the same
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Abe10001 on November 13, 2018, 05:39:13 AM
If you want to have extra peace of mind, just book the third segment of the multi city as a separate flight the next day, it should price out the same

Got it. Thank you!!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: helpyouamdme on November 18, 2018, 10:42:12 PM
Is there any route for fuel dumping on NYC-TLV routes? This dates I want has a crazy amount of YQ charges
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Lou Bob on November 18, 2018, 10:54:13 PM
Is there any route for fuel dumping on NYC-TLV routes?
😂
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: helpyouamdme on November 18, 2018, 11:19:23 PM
😂
Do?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Lou Bob on November 18, 2018, 11:21:31 PM

the secrets come out when you show up to these DOs.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: helpyouamdme on November 18, 2018, 11:43:11 PM
the secrets come out when you show up to these DOs.
secret of town, hu?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on November 19, 2018, 12:31:16 AM
the secrets come out when you show up to these DOs.
Boo! I showed up and got no secrets
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on November 20, 2018, 05:44:40 PM
Hidden city ticketing will be legal under Spanish law on Iberia.

https://www.elmundo.es/economia/ahorro-y-consumo/2018/11/20/5bf3fd3a22601dc64c8b45a1.html
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on November 20, 2018, 06:04:45 PM
Hidden city ticketing will be legal under Spanish law on Iberia.

https://www.elmundo.es/economia/ahorro-y-consumo/2018/11/20/5bf3fd3a22601dc64c8b45a1.html
They will not be allowed to cancel the ticket in case of a no show? That would be insane especially because of this:
Quote
Although the ruling affects only the case of Iberia, the criterion of the Supreme Court may be required from other airlines with such clauses
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on November 20, 2018, 07:13:13 PM
Hidden city ticketing will be legal under Spanish law on Iberia.

https://www.elmundo.es/economia/ahorro-y-consumo/2018/11/20/5bf3fd3a22601dc64c8b45a1.html

My Spanish isn't that good, but it seems like they are 3 clauses in the contract of carriage that the court ruled against. A big win for consumers.

מהם יראו וילמדו וכן יעשו רבים
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yaalili on November 20, 2018, 09:08:52 PM
They will not be allowed to cancel the ticket in case of a no show?

Correct.

HT: GSTP on BoardingArea
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on November 20, 2018, 09:15:44 PM
Correct.

HT: GSTP on BoardingArea
WOW!! When can we start doing this?

Again, this is insane! specially if it starts affecting more airlines (can you imagine if it spills over into the US?!), I can't see the airlines not finding a way out of this.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zagguru on November 25, 2018, 05:18:15 PM
anyone have any issues with a hidden city ticket when adding there skymiles to the reservation to get the benefits? Is is okay if this is the first time doing it?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: nafnaf12 on November 25, 2018, 05:27:27 PM
anyone have any issues with a hidden city ticket when adding there skymiles to the reservation to get the benefits? Is is okay if this is the first time doing it?
definitely ok.
Just dont do it often with FFN
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zagguru on November 25, 2018, 05:28:13 PM
definitely ok.
Just dont do it often with FFN

thanks!

and if they layover is 12 hours or more, then i will def be able to pickup the bags at the hidden city?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: hillybilly on December 03, 2018, 03:55:08 PM
if i am flying from uvf to jfk via mia and dont finish last leg is that an issue with luggage going direct to jfk or will it get off with me in mia if its only a 2 hour stop over , i dont want to finish in jfk ,but th direct uvf to mia is 3 times the price, sorry if this is a newbie question 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: NTorch on December 20, 2018, 09:28:06 AM
Looking to do a HC for a flight from NYC allowing me to get off in Pittsburgh this Sunday. Best if I could do this with two one way tix b/c trying to do a one day shiva call.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: zagguru on December 20, 2018, 09:35:17 AM
thanks!

and if they layover is 12 hours or more, then i will def be able to pickup the bags at the hidden city?

DP: my layover was greater than 12, my bags auto-checked to my HC
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yelped on December 20, 2018, 10:05:18 AM
Where was this? What did you do?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yelped on January 31, 2019, 02:39:34 PM
Any good HCs for award tickets (married segments) from Mia/fll/pbi to NYC?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chinagel on February 02, 2019, 10:55:15 PM
Any good HCs for award tickets (married segments) from Mia/fll/pbi to NYC?
CLE on DL
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yelped on February 02, 2019, 11:22:38 PM
CLE on DL
Thanks! Unfortunately, even more expensive. :(

Flights are 600+ and no saver availability on AA or UA. Not sure why they're so expensive that Sunday. Not near a legal holiday.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Emkay on February 11, 2019, 07:40:16 AM
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/lufthansa-passenger-tariff-abuse-cheap-flights-lawsuit-tickets-missing-air-france-british-airways-a8773371.html
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Dzla2 on February 11, 2019, 02:41:20 PM
If I flew a skiplagged flight is it worth to complain about something from my flight to get a credit or will they see that I didnt take the second flight and flag me for doing a skiplagged?

Also ive read about the transferring the miles to a partner airline
Can someone direct me to the page that explains that?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Toasted on February 12, 2019, 11:03:03 AM
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/lufthansa-sues-passenger-scli-intl/index.html

Airline loses again!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Pesach on February 13, 2019, 03:10:00 PM
im curious if this passenger lived in the us , if lufthansa could  still sue him? and if they  could not would he have issues next time he flew to  germany and came to customs/passport control ? Im asking this.because  I won a dispute on  a charge from chase where air berlin flew me one way and then declared bankrupt   so they stopped flying and issued me a 50% refund  on the  return trip this  caused me to have to book a 1 way flight back at the last minute.  air berlin sent me this letter  from the insolvency court  " the district court is demanding payment for a flight taken and will be sent to collections etc?" can i potentially have trouble next time i come to Berlin and Munich  for a connection or visit?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ludmila on February 13, 2019, 03:20:00 PM
im curious if this passenger lived in the us , if lufthansa could  still sue him? and if they  could not would he have issues next time he flew to  germany and came to customs/passport control ? Im asking this.because  I won a dispute on  a charge from chase where air berlin flew me one way and then declared bankrupt   so they stopped flying and issued me a 50% refund  on the  return trip this  caused me to have to book a 1 way flight back at the last minute.  air berlin sent me this letter  from the insolvency court  " the district court is demanding payment for a flight taken and will be sent to collections etc?" can i potentially have trouble next time i come to Berlin and Munich  for a connection or visit?
I doubt it, should be OK.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mgarfin on February 16, 2019, 09:28:56 PM
 This is the punishment airlines get for suing passengers

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/hidden-city-ticketing/index.html
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on February 16, 2019, 09:49:12 PM
Thanks.
That little blue like button saves you from having to write thanks.
 ;)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Naftuli19 on February 16, 2019, 09:50:29 PM
That little blue like button saves you from having to write thanks.
 ;)
Lol! There's no like on Tapa
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on February 22, 2019, 02:54:36 AM
Any reason this search wouldn't work?

(https://i.imgur.com/sQBAeQQ.png)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 26, 2019, 10:19:37 AM
Any reason this search wouldn't work?

(https://i.imgur.com/sQBAeQQ.png)
Try putting “NYC” in for the routing code, I don’t think two codes there will work
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on February 26, 2019, 01:24:16 PM
Try putting “NYC” in for the routing code, I don’t think two codes there will work
Will try that when I get a minute, but don't think that would help.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on February 26, 2019, 02:01:15 PM
Any reason this search wouldn't work?

(https://i.imgur.com/sQBAeQQ.png)
JFK, EWR there means both JFK and EWR
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on February 26, 2019, 02:02:27 PM
JFK, EWR there means both JFK and EWR
Saying it won't search for either? As I would need to place NYC or just one?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: normathej on February 26, 2019, 02:06:46 PM
Saying it won't search for either? As I would need to place NYC or just one?

Do you have JFK or EWR in the destination as well?  Sometimes I find that confuses the search...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on February 26, 2019, 02:07:04 PM
Saying it won't search for either? As I would need to place NYC or just one?
Yes. NYC will work.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on February 26, 2019, 02:50:39 PM
Any reason this search wouldn't work?
Yes. NYC will work.
But that search will still error out.. Just putting NYC is saying, give me a flight from LPA to your destination options with ONLY a single connect in NYC (IE. a nonstop from LPA-NYC).

Since that doesn't exist, you need to put it in as "F+ NYC".

Although searching just LPA-NYC is giving some really cheap pricing with TP..
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on February 26, 2019, 07:40:15 PM
But that search will still error out.. Just putting NYC is saying, give me a flight from LPA to your destination options with ONLY a single connect in NYC (IE. a nonstop from LPA-NYC).

Since that doesn't exist, you need to put it in as "F+ NYC".

Although searching just LPA-NYC is giving some really cheap pricing with TP..
Thanks, with TP though there's some hefty fees for baggage for 2. Rather fly Norwegian with 4 free bags, seat selection and inflight meal.

 Even by selecting allow up to 2 stops? 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on February 26, 2019, 11:31:12 PM
But that search will still error out.. Just putting NYC is saying, give me a flight from LPA to your destination options with ONLY a single connect in NYC (IE. a nonstop from LPA-NYC).

Since that doesn't exist, you need to put it in as "F+ NYC".

Although searching just LPA-NYC is giving some really cheap pricing with TP..
The F+ did the trick.
  So far it seems momondo for 215$ being the cheapest while ita pulling up lowest for 350$

An I the only one which has this error when searching,it's not the first time I've had this error have had this error all the time?

"The identifier YBD,YCP is not in our database of locations."
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on February 27, 2019, 07:21:45 AM
Thanks, with TP though there's some hefty fees for baggage for 2. Rather fly Norwegian with 4 free bags, seat selection and inflight meal.
With TP, if booking directly on their website, you can get the Classic package for $80 extra which comes with those same 2 bags + seat and meal.  Comes out to ~$305 each.

But yes, if booking the lowest level and adding bags later they charge $120 each.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shloim4334 on March 06, 2019, 05:23:42 AM
Hi, I'm thinking about doing TLV-CDG-HC on AF (overnight stopover), and the next day CDG-ZRH-TLV on LX, but the CDG-ZRH flight is codeshared by AF and LX, Will one of the tickets get cancelled by AF for having 2 different flights on the same day?
Thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: theyankel on March 06, 2019, 12:54:49 PM
Hi, I'm thinking about doing TLV-CDG-HC on AF (overnight stopover), and the next day CDG-ZRH-TLV on LX, but the CDG-ZRH flight is codeshared by AF and LX, Will one of the tickets get cancelled by AF for having 2 different flights on the same day?
Thanks
r u booking the cdg-zrh-tlv through lx or af? if lx, i would imagine it should be ok. just thinking from logical standpoint. dont know for sure
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on March 19, 2019, 05:38:53 PM
If as book a hidden city as a multi city will bags get checked through? 2 hour connection. UA
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitrap on March 19, 2019, 05:42:49 PM
If as book a hidden city as a multi city will bags get checked through? 2 hour connection. UA
All domestic? Yes
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 19, 2019, 05:43:11 PM
Yes, depending on route. The fact that you searched for it as a multi city is not relevant
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on March 19, 2019, 05:47:54 PM
All domestic? Yes
Yes, depending on route. The fact that you searched for it as a multi city is not relevant
Thanks.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on March 19, 2019, 05:49:59 PM
If as book a hidden city as a multi city will bags get checked through? 2 hour connection. UA

Yes, depending on route. The fact that you searched for it as a multi city is not relevant
Is it two separate flights? If yes then one airline has no clue where you going next, but if you have one airline and it's all one big ticket then you might be out of luck with your baggage.
 Even if it's the same airline but two separate tickets issued you might be good.( now that you mention it's a multi city and I would assume they added the trip onto one ticket they might have your luggage checked all the way through.
 Wonder if you can separate the tickets to two different reservations?

 
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on March 19, 2019, 05:54:58 PM


Wonder if you can separate the tickets to two different reservations?
How
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on March 19, 2019, 05:58:07 PM
How
Sometimes multi city is really one big flight, for ex. YYZ-NYC-BOS, but if you search the leg from YYZ-BOS it would be the same as searching for a multi city.(hence the flight from yyz-bos has the same stopover in nyc.(then there would be no way to separate).
 Yes my example is a bad one as your coming from Canada and then to the US!(just bringing out my point.)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on March 19, 2019, 06:05:04 PM


Is it two separate flights? If yes then one airline has no clue where you going next, but if you have one airline and it's all one big ticket then you might be out of luck with your baggage.
 Even if it's the same airline but two separate tickets issued you might be good.( now that you mention it's a multi city and I would assume they added the trip onto one ticket they might have your luggage checked all the way through.
 Wonder if you can separate the tickets to two different reservations?
Two separate tix would defeat the purpose of a HC.

Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ExGingi on March 19, 2019, 06:32:05 PM
If as book a hidden city as a multi city will bags get checked through? 2 hour connection. UA

Is it available with a longer layover? If there's a long layover at the same fare, you can legitimately ask for your bags to be checked only to the first point.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on March 19, 2019, 06:33:02 PM
Is it available with a longer layover? If there's a long layover at the same fare, you can legitimately ask for your bags to be checked only to the first point.
I know that, thanks
Title: Flight not showing up....
Post by: drschibi@yahoo.com on March 23, 2019, 01:28:46 PM
This biz fare is available on May 7 from Hong Kong to LAX and continuing on to Mexico City. 
The ITA Matrix North America Search does not pull it up.  Trying to understand why and if I am doing something wrong.
I put in
  Departing from:  Hong Kong all airports
  Routing codes: LAX
  Destination: North America List
Thank you for any insights!  I appreciate it.

Hong Kong
Mexico City
One way1Business Class
Total price
from
$1,149

Departing flightTue, May 7

American
6:30 PM
Hong Kong International Airport HKG
Travel time: 13h 15m
Overnight
4:45 PM
Los Angeles International Airport LAX
American
Business Class
Boeing 777
AA 192
Ticket also sold by Cathay Pacific
Lie flat seat
Wi-Fi
In-seat power & USB outlets
On-demand video
17h 10m layover
Los Angeles LAX
Overnight layover
9:55 AM+1
Los Angeles International Airport LAX
Travel time: 3h 40m
3:35 PM+1
Mexico City International Airport MEX
American
Business Class
Boeing 737
AA 2546
Ticket also sold by Cathay Pacific
Standard recliner seat
Wi-Fi
In-seat power & USB outlets
Stream media to
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on April 05, 2019, 04:30:38 PM
Is there anything to be worried when taking just a carry on going to nyc, and then off to a random island without me?
   Yes while in Canada you go through the border agents but will i have problems  being that i'm going to some random island?

(https://i.imgur.com/7sA42l0.png)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on April 07, 2019, 12:51:47 AM
Whats the purpose of this option ?
 If there's no avlbty then why offer this option?

   (https://i.imgur.com/Rb6bOkT.png)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ah giten on April 07, 2019, 01:54:46 AM
Whats the purpose of this option ?
 If there's no avlbty then why offer this option?

   (https://i.imgur.com/Rb6bOkT.png)
maybe the booking class will open again?..
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on April 07, 2019, 02:02:18 AM
maybe the booking class will open again?..
Nah never seen those open, the best i've found was the flights open a few hours before the flight.

  Tried HC for that route in the picture above but no luck.
 Then tried to plug in those HC routes into fixed mileage tickets, like BA,AA,UA,AC and skip the last leg while i can book on ba without close in fee for 7.5K and AC(Aeroplan) for 7.5K without close in fee,Tried UA but also nothing doing.
 I would think with plugging in the HC routes I would be able to pull up those flights for the 7.5K miles.
 I remember doing such a ticket coming back from LAS to NYC while it was pricing on united 30k I added another leg to a final destination and it had dropped a few K.(A regular HC just with the mileage ticket.)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on April 08, 2019, 04:36:48 PM
Whats the purpose of this option ?
 If there's no avlbty then why offer this option?

   (https://i.imgur.com/Rb6bOkT.png)
If you want to see all the flights that day.
maybe you're picking someone up, maybe you want to get a flat tire...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on April 09, 2019, 01:01:21 AM
If you want to see all the flights that day.
maybe you're picking someone up, maybe you want to get a flat tire...
Your saying good! Too bad I can't revive some of those flights. Some insane pricing when searching like that.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on April 10, 2019, 04:21:21 AM
Any difference in skipping a leg in the US vs in Canada?
 Looking to go NYC-YYZ-YUL, while I skip Yul and go off with my carry on?
 Both have customs upon arrival.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: ludmila on April 10, 2019, 09:20:39 PM
Any difference in skipping a leg in the US vs in Canada?
 Looking to go NYC-YYZ-YUL, while I skip Yul and go off with my carry on?
 Both have customs upon arrival.
Should be fine.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on April 10, 2019, 09:23:43 PM
Should be fine.
There's not much to royally mess up, except when talking to border agents and they ask you where you going and where you staying..
 I guess you can say for a friends wedding/party and then heading back to toronto.. or hope they don't ask you anything.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: joey89 on April 10, 2019, 09:38:31 PM
There's not much to royally mess up, except when talking to border agents and they ask you where you going and where you staying..
 I guess you can say for a friends wedding/party and then heading back to toronto.. or hope they don't ask you anything.
Don’t think the border agent cares about your airline ticket. Just say the truth of where your heading, they won’t be the wiser that you had a ticket to YUL.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: KSMH on April 10, 2019, 10:55:25 PM
And what would happen if  you were to tell them the truth?

What your doing is not illegal, it's only against carriers T&C.

Lying to a law enforcement officer is illegal.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: username on April 11, 2019, 09:23:27 AM
I don't know about customs, but the TSA sure seems to be enforcing the airlines' rules. From carry-on allowances, to typos on tickets.
I feel sure, that if TSA started asking questions, and it came out that you were planning on flying only one leg, they would not let you through. Especially in busy urban airports. (LGA--I'm looking at you!)

[I realize that typos on tickets could be a security risk, but whatever...]
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: KSMH on April 11, 2019, 10:02:53 AM
Obviously try avoiding it all together, but I can't see a legal way the TSA can enforce airline policy.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: KSMH on April 11, 2019, 08:53:49 PM
Anyone with a HC or FD for EK to add as a x3?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Dzla2 on April 24, 2019, 05:14:11 AM
I Took a hidden city ticket  that was officially going international with two domestic stopovers.
They asked why I don’t have a return ticket and told me they won’t let me board
After 15 minutes they told me they’d let me on but they would hold me in the first stopover airport and wouldn’t let me continue until I purchased a return ticket.
I’ve previously flown a hidden city  that was officially going international, while I got off domestic and did not have any of these issue then. So I asked them if having a return ticket is required is a policy that is specific to this foreign country  and they told me yes
In the end no one held me at the airport
Does anyone know If certain countries do indeed have this policy?
Or was this just a tactic from the airline to try and prevent future hidden city tickets
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yelped on April 24, 2019, 06:42:10 AM
Which airline/route?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on April 24, 2019, 08:23:50 AM
I Took a hidden city ticket  that was officially going international with two domestic stopovers.
They asked why I don’t have a return ticket and told me they won’t let me board
After 15 minutes they told me they’d let me on but they would hold me in the first stopover airport and wouldn’t let me continue until I purchased a return ticket.
I’ve previously flown a hidden city  that was officially going international, while I got off domestic and did not have any of these issue then. So I asked them if having a return ticket is required is a policy that is specific to this foreign country  and they told me yes
In the end no one held me at the airport
Does anyone know If certain countries do indeed have this policy?
Or was this just a tactic from the airline to try and prevent future hidden city tickets
As simple as buying a ticket on priceline for a return and after you get to where you need to go cancel it. Saves you time and worry. ;)
 If there's a will there's a way. (If your doing a HC, go the extra step to purchase a return ticket, especially when flying internationally-quote on quote.)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lubaby on April 24, 2019, 08:36:01 AM
I Took a hidden city ticket  that was officially going international with two domestic stopovers.
They asked why I don’t have a return ticket and told me they won’t let me board
After 15 minutes they told me they’d let me on but they would hold me in the first stopover airport and wouldn’t let me continue until I purchased a return ticket.
I’ve previously flown a hidden city  that was officially going international, while I got off domestic and did not have any of these issue then. So I asked them if having a return ticket is required is a policy that is specific to this foreign country  and they told me yes
In the end no one held me at the airport
Does anyone know If certain countries do indeed have this policy?
Or was this just a tactic from the airline to try and prevent future hidden city tickets

There are many countries that have that entry restriction and you will not be allowed on the plane. Nothing to do with hidden city or them knowing anything.

The workaround is this:
As simple as buying a ticket on priceline for a return and after you get to where you need to go cancel it. Saves you time and worry. ;)
 If there's a will there's a way. (If your doing a HC, go the extra step to purchase a return ticket, especially when flying internationally-quote on quote.)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Dzla2 on April 24, 2019, 06:33:19 PM
As simple as buying a ticket on priceline for a return and after you get to where you need to go cancel it. Saves you time and worry. ;)
 If there's a will there's a way. (If your doing a HC, go the extra step to purchase a return ticket, especially when flying internationally-quote on quote.)

Yes that’s what I had did.
Thank you
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Dzla2 on April 24, 2019, 07:07:14 PM
There are many countries that have that entry restriction and you will not be allowed on the plane. Nothing to do with hidden city or them knowing anything.

The workaround is this:

I did some research though on what the airline had told and didn’t find anything definitive
Especially since I’ve done this before
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Davidthebest on May 08, 2019, 07:51:29 PM
Is there a DDMS post on specific instructions how to hack a NYC-TlV on a round trip?
Would appreciate if someone can post a link if there is.
Tried searching on the MS but only found instructions how to hack a domestic ticket.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: sb5917 on May 08, 2019, 08:14:16 PM
Screenshot
Is there a DDMS post on specific instructions how to hack a NYC-TlV on a round trip?
Would appreciate if someone can post a link if there is.
Tried searching on the MS but only found instructions how to hack a domestic ticket.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Davidthebest on May 08, 2019, 08:15:12 PM
Screenshot
Awesome! Thanks!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Davidthebest on May 08, 2019, 08:22:01 PM
the like button is available......
Not on tapa...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on May 08, 2019, 08:22:39 PM
the like button is available......
Not on weekends
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on May 08, 2019, 08:28:29 PM
Awesome! Thanks!
Search OW vs RT. Easier and once you know what you want you can look for a RT to that destination. Good Luck.
 It's the same as any domestic flight, and dan has posted previously on this topic to TLV.
Not on tapa...
There's 3 dots which allows you to open Web page and from there there's an option to click a light blue like button. Works like a charm, tried it many times.
 
 

 I think this I what you were looking for.
https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-deals/israel-flights/use-hidden-city-save-200-newark-tel-aviv-nonstop-flight/
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Davidthebest on May 08, 2019, 08:32:15 PM
Search OW vs RT. Easier and once you know what you want you can look for a RT to that destination. Good Luck.
 It's the same as any domestic flight, and dan has posted previously on this topic to TLV. There's 3 dots which allows you to open Web page and from there there's an option to click a light blue like button. Works like a charm, tried it many times.
 
 

 I think this I what you were looking for.
https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-deals/israel-flights/use-hidden-city-save-200-newark-tel-aviv-nonstop-flight/
Will do the like for both of you guys ...

What do you mean I should search OW instead of RT?..
In the pic above it shows that multi city it is .. no ?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on May 08, 2019, 08:36:15 PM
Will do the like for both of you guys ...

What do you mean I should search OW instead of RT?..
In the pic above it shows that multi city it is .. no ?
Meaning by searching a RT it's making things more complicated.
 Don't think you can have the plane fly to another country while you get off with your bags like you would with a flight to the US and effectively work out a HC ticket.
 Unless you manage to find a flight with tlv which has a long stopover which by default will give you your bags and you can then piece together two OW or try to see if you can book that route as a RT, not sure why you want bidavka a RT.
 Search OW and once you find what you want you can search a RT and seeif you can get it any cheaper by booking a RT.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Davidthebest on May 08, 2019, 08:47:53 PM
Screenshot
Meaning by searching a RT it's making things more complicated.
 Don't think you can have the plane fly to another country while you get off with your bags like you would with a flight to the US and effectively work out a HC ticket.
 Unless you manage to find a flight with tlv which has a long stopover which by default will give you your bags and you can then piece together two OW or try to see if you can book that route as a RT, not sure why you want bidavka a RT.
 Search OW and once you find what you want you can search a RT and seeif you can get it any cheaper by booking a RT.
was only to trying to make a hidden city on the way back not on the outbound.
So isn't the right way to do it via multi city  search like @sb5917 has in his screenshot ?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on May 08, 2019, 09:18:46 PM
was only to trying to make a hidden city on the way back not on the outbound.
So isn't the right way to do it via multi city  search like @sb5917 has in his screenshot ?
You can, but by putting the way back it's making everything more complicated.
 In this scenario a RT wouldn't work as you plan on doing a HC to another state, so yes a mutli city is what you need or in other words two one way tickets.
 First find the return and then piece everything togther.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Shlomo1 on May 10, 2019, 03:42:31 PM
Anyone been able to find a HC fare for NYC-TLV for Shavuous time (June 5-12)?
It seems pretty unlikely. Thanks
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on May 11, 2019, 08:35:21 PM
Is there a DDMS post on specific instructions how to hack a NYC-TlV on a round trip?
Would appreciate if someone can post a link if there is.
Tried searching on the MS but only found instructions how to hack a domestic ticket.
What about a RT the other way, meaning could I do an HC starting out of TLV to NYC?
Any ideas as to what I can use for NYC TLV...??
Any leads would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yeah on June 05, 2019, 11:38:05 AM
Does it make sense that ITA shows prices that are more expensive then skyscanner?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 05, 2019, 11:55:33 AM
Does it make sense that ITA shows prices that are more expensive then skyscanner?
Yes. They price out flights wrong all the time.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: helpyouamdme on June 05, 2019, 02:26:50 PM
Yes. They price out flights wrong all the time.
interesting because i have found cheaper fares on ITA and my TA was able to get me the ITA fair
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Yeah on June 05, 2019, 06:58:09 PM
Yes. They price out flights wrong all the time.
Truth is it's gave me the same price most travel sites offered (I'm starting to think they all rely on ita...) But Skyscanner just got me some far-fetched sites that had the same tickets for significantly cheaper.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Something Fishy on June 13, 2019, 12:45:33 PM
Data point: flew DL JFK-KEF-JFK(-CLE), got 0 miles credited. Put in a claim for missing miles (this is on an account which I don't care if they close), and got all the miles.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 13, 2019, 12:46:31 PM
Data point: flew DL JFK-KEF-JFK(-CLE), got 0 miles credited. Put in a claim for missing miles (this is on an account which I don't care if they close), and got all the miles.
I don't think they intentionally didn't credit you the miles.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on June 17, 2019, 12:12:29 AM
any issues doing an HC on Elal
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: miller123 on July 16, 2019, 03:34:41 PM
could anyone refer me a TA that books these tickets?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: KSMH on July 16, 2019, 03:46:12 PM
Y dont u just do it ur self?
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: miller123 on July 16, 2019, 04:23:35 PM
its canceling out on the regular search engines
i thing i need a ta to be able to book it
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 16, 2019, 05:02:11 PM
its canceling out on the regular search engines
i thing i need a ta to be able to book it
No TA will be willing to book these on their GDS, especially if they're not upselling it.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: KSMH on July 16, 2019, 05:35:51 PM
could anyone refer me a TA that books these tickets?
It sounds more like a FD then a HC.
If it shows up on ITA then you can try "book with ITA"

I'm no expert on this.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on July 16, 2019, 07:30:59 PM
No TA will be willing to book these on their GDS, especially if they're not upselling it.
There are other ways to book then on your own gds.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on July 16, 2019, 07:31:36 PM
its canceling out on the regular search engines
i thing i need a ta to be able to book it
You can PM me, I may be able to help you.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: sb5917 on July 16, 2019, 10:14:36 PM
could anyone refer me a TA that books these tickets?

bookwithmatrix.com
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: KSMH on August 01, 2019, 11:33:01 AM
Yahoo Finance: United Airlines Confronts Ticketing Ploy That Nets Travelers Cheaper Fares.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/united-airlines-confronts-ticketing-ploy-100055891.html


Looks like on UA, employees are told to trust your excuse.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: myi on August 02, 2019, 02:52:04 PM
Yahoo Finance: United Airlines Confronts Ticketing Ploy That Nets Travelers Cheaper Fares.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/united-airlines-confronts-ticketing-ploy-100055891.html


Looks like on UA, employees are told to trust your excuse.
Really true? They've been on the lookout for a while already.

https://onemileatatime.com/united-staff-hidden-city-ticketing/
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: KSMH on August 02, 2019, 03:10:53 PM
"let alone to act as some sort of Ben Gurion Airport style security force against hidden city"

Maybe hes on to some thing. Is BG the most abused.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: shapsam on August 02, 2019, 03:33:02 PM

Maybe hes on to some thing. Is BG the most abused.
You wish
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: davidrotts63 on August 02, 2019, 04:53:29 PM
"let alone to act as some sort of Ben Gurion Airport style security force against hidden city"

Maybe hes on to some thing. Is BG the most abused.
He's referring to the questioning there, nothing to do with routings.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: mmgfarb on August 04, 2019, 02:54:57 AM
You wish
I bet there's someone flying to BOS on every single TLV-EWR flight.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chaimdasap on August 18, 2019, 02:53:31 PM
In other news, i recently did a hc, Mia-Ord-Tus in F, with Tus. being the throwaway leg. got a $200 refund for Ord-Tus being delayed an hour :) :D
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: KSMH on August 18, 2019, 03:10:52 PM
In other news, i recently did a hc, Mia-Ord-Tus in F, with Tus. being the throwaway leg. got a $200 refund for Ord-Tus being delayed an hour :) :D
That's next level.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yochai on August 18, 2019, 03:16:15 PM
In other news, i recently did a hc, Mia-Ord-Tus in F, with Tus. being the throwaway leg. got a $200 refund for Ord-Tus being delayed an hour :) :D
Did you ask for compensation? Had the same thing JAX-EWR-PIT. The last leg was delayed, I thought asking for compensation would be pushing it.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: KSMH on August 18, 2019, 03:20:19 PM
Did you ask for compensation? Had the same thing JAX-EWR-PIT. The last leg was delayed, I thought asking for compensation would be pushing it.
U should be able to ask for compensation + ask 2 drop last leg + get reward credits for all legs.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: chaimdasap on August 19, 2019, 04:42:31 AM
Did you ask for compensation? Had the same thing JAX-EWR-PIT. The last leg was delayed, I thought asking for compensation would be pushing it.
I did not. I was too happy to think about milking it for more;))
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yitzyul on August 25, 2019, 10:22:59 PM
Want to do hidden city with infant. Want to bring Doona to gate, will they make me check it in all the way thru or will they give it me by the stop because I "need" it for the airport to get to my next flight?
(also if not full flight sometimes they will give me extra seat)
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: efflpetzel on September 19, 2019, 04:59:59 PM
Has anyone ever gotten back their bags at the first stop if they were forced to check hand luggage on a hidden city
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: brodes18 on September 19, 2019, 06:47:23 PM
Has anyone ever gotten back their bags at the first stop if they were forced to check hand luggage on a hidden city
Once in a while gate check baggage comes up on the stop at the gate. 99.9% of the time it will go to the final destination. If they put a tag on it, it will have the destination listed. If nothing listed on the luggage, it usually come out at the stop.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lindnuck on October 10, 2019, 06:05:13 PM
Just wanted to share a recent experience. Feel free to flame me if you think I handled anything wrong; I did a bunch of research and asked in a bunch of forums prior to travel, and nobody warned me about what eventually happened. I specifically asked if IST as a hidden city ticket was sketchy, and everyone reacted like I was being a nervous nellie.

Anyway, I booked a flight for my wife in J on AF, by doing hidden city with IST as the final destination, it was 1/2 the points than they wanted for the flight just to CDG. I was going to be in the back with my kids.

Check in wasn't a problem. AF wanted to know her plan for a visa, but she told them she'd get one in the airport, and they let her go.

At the gate, she was called to the jetway by the gate agent, where she was met by two home land security agents. They proceeded to rifle through her luggage while they interrogated her for over 20 minutes, until the entire plane had boarded. They thought it was suspicious she was traveling to Istanbul alone, as a single woman, especially with her family traveling to a different destination. She mentioned a colleague from IST that had told her how nice it was there, and they promptly demanded that person's contact info as well as her sister's contact info at our final destination.

Anyway, eventually they let her on the plane and did not tip of AF. I know she probably should have just told them she was never intending to actually go to IST, but she was concerned they would tell AF and AF would keep her off the plane, and so she got nervous.

I'm not telling this story for any feedback, just a word of warning to be careful which hidden city tickets you end up targeting, as not every city is the same apparently (doubt this would have happened if it said she was going to Dublin).
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: yelped on October 10, 2019, 06:11:21 PM
Lol. Apparently they thought your wife was going to join ISIS.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lindnuck on October 10, 2019, 07:22:22 PM
Lol. Apparently they thought your wife was going to join ISIS.

That reminds me, they specifically asked her if she was continuing on to Syria, despite her showing them her further itinerary to Israel.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: KSMH on October 10, 2019, 10:07:50 PM
Just wanted to share a recent experience. Feel free to flame me if you think I handled anything wrong; I did a bunch of research and asked in a bunch of forums prior to travel, and nobody warned me about what eventually happened. I specifically asked if IST as a hidden city ticket was sketchy, and everyone reacted like I was being a nervous nellie.

Anyway, I booked a flight for my wife in J on AF, by doing hidden city with IST as the final destination, it was 1/2 the points than they wanted for the flight just to CDG. I was going to be in the back with my kids.

Check in wasn't a problem. AF wanted to know her plan for a visa, but she told them she'd get one in the airport, and they let her go.

At the gate, she was called to the jetway by the gate agent, where she was met by two home land security agents. They proceeded to rifle through her luggage while they interrogated her for over 20 minutes, until the entire plane had boarded. They thought it was suspicious she was traveling to Istanbul alone, as a single woman, especially with her family traveling to a different destination. She mentioned a colleague from IST that had told her how nice it was there, and they promptly demanded that person's contact info as well as her sister's contact info at our final destination.

Anyway, eventually they let her on the plane and did not tip of AF. I know she probably should have just told them she was never intending to actually go to IST, but she was concerned they would tell AF and AF would keep her off the plane, and so she got nervous.

I'm not telling this story for any feedback, just a word of warning to be careful which hidden city tickets you end up targeting, as not every city is the same apparently (doubt this would have happened if it said she was going to Dublin).


Cool story, with happy ending.

You always need to play if your going to final destination.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 11, 2019, 02:26:57 AM
Thanks for sharing.
I think what's important when flying with a hidden city, is to differentiate between the different people along the questions.
Normally law enforcement shouldn't have any business with the airlines.
Obviously, pigs exist...
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: Luvisrael on October 11, 2019, 08:48:20 AM
Lol. Apparently they thought your wife was going to join ISIS.
thats exactly what I was thinking. Prob has zero to do with the hidden city part
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: lindnuck on October 11, 2019, 05:10:43 PM

Normally law enforcement shouldn't have any business with the airlines.
Obviously, pigs exist...

Exactly, we didn't gameplan for that as it was unexpected. Purpose of this post was to make others thinking of a HC itinerary take that issue into account.
Title: Re: Hidden City Ticketing
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 12, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Exactly, we didn't gameplan for that as it was unexpected. Purpose of this post was to make others thinking of a HC itinerary take that issue into account.
Yes, your intention was clear and appreciated.