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DansDeals Forum => Up In The Air => Topic started by: MAJ on October 21, 2014, 05:07:23 AM
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Just flew with an infant using miles and more miles. They told me on phone, when I booked, that I would pay $17.50 for infant at airport. When I got there they (Swiss ticket counter ben gurion )charged me $385. Did I make a mistake somewhere? Will calling miles and more get me my money back?
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You should call them and get a refund. This $385to was charged as you were flying on a PAID ticket. M&M charges very little for infants. Not sure why they told you to pay at the airport.
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That's what I told them but as at this point in time I was 40 min before flight, there was no time to argue
Tx
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You got a dumb rep.
I would have HUCA till someone would have done it.
Should of asked here, at this point I would try to call M&M, but I doubt they'll give in.
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So just dispute the charge?
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You got a dumb rep.
I would have HUCA till someone would have done it.
Should of asked here, at this point I would try to call M&M, but I doubt they'll give in.
huca? I was in airport 40 before flight
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So just dispute the charge?
for now m&m told me to email my info and they will let me know
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huca? I was in airport 40 before flight
HUCA when they told you to add at airport.
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huca? I was in airport 40 before flight
It's been posted many times on here that M&M only charges $17.50 to add an infant.
When the rep said you need to add at airport, you should of HUCAed or asked on here what you should do.
Lessened learned.
#AlwaysAskOnDDF
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It's been posted many times on here that M&M only charges $17.50 to add an infant.
When the rep said you need to add at airport, you should of HUCAed or asked on here what you should do.
Lessened learned.
#AlwaysAskOnDDF
they told me on phone it would be $17.50 at airport ( which I knew as well from other places) so why would I huca at that point in time?
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Does anyone know how much the tax would be for a flight from ZRH-SIN using awards?
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Just got off the phone with miles and more - I was charged 12,500 for a one way domestic award (US48). I asked why it wasn't rounded down to 12k, like it always was for one ways? And the rep told me they changed the rules on October 1st and they no longer round it down, one ways are 12,500 and 17,500
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Do you get a stopover on a OW award?
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Do you get a stopover on a OW award?
Within 24hrs
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Within 24hrs
So just a connection. Darn.
Thanks.
ETA: Does that change if it's a RT award?
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So just a connection. Darn.
Thanks.
ETA: Does that change if it's a RT award?
Don't know, I never do our Rt. anyone?
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http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8240.0
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http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8240.0
BTDT (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8240.msg991380#msg991380) without much help...
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Just called M&M. As always, you never know if you can trust phone reps, but I was told that if you book a RT, you can take 1 stopover in each direction as long as you hit 2 regions in your trip. That works for me!
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Just flew with an infant using miles and more miles. They told me on phone, when I booked, that I would pay $17.50 for infant at airport. When I got there they (Swiss ticket counter ben gurion )charged me $385. Did I make a mistake somewhere? Will calling miles and more get me my money back?
Just saw this thread. What happened in the end? Were you refunded?
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Just called M&M. As always, you never know if you can trust phone reps, but I was told that if you book a RT, you can take 1 stopover in each direction as long as you hit 2 regions in your trip. That works for me!
That's correct. Also NO stopover at the region of origin.
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That's correct. Also NO stopover at the region of origin.
That means you can't go JFK-LAX(stop)-HNL?
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That means you can't go JFK-LAX(stop)-HNL?
No.
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No.
At first I was going to say "Oh." but then I remembered I would be going LIH/OGG-LAX-EWR and that should be allowed.
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At first I was going to say "Oh." but then I remembered I would be going LIH/OGG-LAX-EWR and that should be allowed.
You can have 2 stopovers and 2 open jaws.
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Just saw this thread. What happened in the end? Were you refunded?
i dont think so, i filled out and sent in all the paper work that they wanted and then got very busy and forgot about it, never heard back from them
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i dont think so, i filled out and sent in all the paper work that they wanted and then got very busy and forgot about it, never heard back from them
You should call the CC company, tell them the whole story. I'm sure they will refund you the difference.
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You should call the CC company, tell them the whole story. I'm sure they will refund you the difference.
I definitely should, i completely forgot about this whole thing so tx for the reminder
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That's correct. Also NO stopover at the region of origin.
Coming back to this. Does that mean your stop could be in a different region from your origin but your final destination could be back in your origin? Would EWR-HNL-LAX somehow price out as EWR-LAX?
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No.
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This is M&M's award chart. Why do they have an option for F from NA-HI? I thought there's no F from NA-HI?
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This is M&M's award chart. Why do they have an option for F from NA-HI? I thought there's no F from NA-HI?
UA used to have. But to be clear, when a award chart has a first class blank it does not necessarily mean that an airline operates a F cabin on that route.
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UA used to have. But to be clear, when a award chart has a first class blank it does not necessarily mean that an airline operates a F cabin on that route.
Gotcha. Thank you
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This may seem cheap but why not ask....
Looking at a flight on a 747-400 out of FRA - the business product looks terrible - I can't sleep in angled seats so almost not worth it for me. Just saw the first class product and I'm considering, but would have to give up a whole bunch of *wood points to transfer and make it worthwhile (unless there's another transfer partner I'm not aware of).
Anyway here is my crazy question: Can I book myself in economy and my wife in first on LH, and then just go hang out with my wife in the first class cabin (considering there's a chair and a bed)? Anyone ever tried anything like this? Will they physically bar me from the first class space? ;D
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Yes, they will stop you. Maybe allow you for a few minutes
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Lame - guess I can't blame them. Any other way of booking LH F outside MM miles / *wood?
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For infants on international flights - its 17.50 stam, or plus taxes (no YQ right?)?
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Lame - guess I can't blame them. Any other way of booking LH F outside MM miles / *wood?
I think it's worth booking with SQ
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I think it's worth booking with SQ
Interesting...why?
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Interesting...why?
I am not sure where you are flying to.
I flew them NYC-FRA for 75k but I don't remember how much YQ.
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FRA-SEA
Anyway to see award availability for first without calling in to M & M? Don't have enough miles in my account so I always just get an error online
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FRA-SEA
Anyway to see award availability for first without calling in to M & M? Don't have enough miles in my account so I always just get an error online
as long as you have miles you should be able to check
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looking at flying lx with miles and more miles for tlv-nyc.
searching on expert flyer :when i put in tlv-nyc than for 450 am tlv-zrh and 950 am zrh-nyc, it shows 3 seats in I (business)
however if i search separately, tlv-zrh will show 5 seats on the 450 am and than zrh-nyc will show 7 seats.
miles and more website is showing at least 4 seats a flight if done separately but only allowing 3 if done together.
I need 4 seats, any advise?
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looking at flying lx with miles and more miles for tlv-nyc.
searching on expert flyer :when i put in tlv-nyc than for 450 am tlv-zrh and 950 am zrh-nyc, it shows 3 seats in I (business)
however if i search separately, tlv-zrh will show 5 seats on the 450 am and than zrh-nyc will show 7 seats.
miles and more website is showing at least 4 seats a flight if done separately but only allowing 3 if done together.
I need 4 seats, any advise?
It's a married segment.
Call and HUCA until you get someone to book it for you.
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ok tx
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If you book in Y and J later becomes available on Lufthansa, can you pay the difference in miles to upgrade?
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i'm N00b for award booking :-[ Q *A dont show availability on LX TLV-NYC should i book now using M&M and later if *A open-up cancel (pay the $60 fee)and re book using AC?
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i'm N00b for award booking :-[ Q *A dont show availability on LX TLV-NYC should i book now using M&M and later if *A open-up cancel (pay the $60 fee)and re book using AC?
Why would you prefer using AC? They charge YQ also, and more miles for that route than M&M (which considers Israel part of Europe, as long you're booking from an Israeli address).
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Why would you prefer using AC? They charge YQ also
AC doesn't charge YQ on LX flights
and more miles for that route than M&M (which considers Israel part of Europe, as long you're booking from an Israeli address).
Indeed - 82.5k AC vs. 52k (and some YQ) m&m
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AC doesn't charge YQ on LX flights
Odd that they don't charge on LX, but do on LH. Thanks for the info!
Is there always this much availaibility on the JFK-ZRH-TLV route in J (to M&M but not partners)? If so, I'm going to have get more LH miles :)
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Is there always this much availaibility on the JFK-ZRH-TLV route in J (to M&M but not partners)? If so, I'm going to have get more LH miles :)
Yes
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Yes
Thanks
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YQ is much higher around $250 OW
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YQ is much higher around $250 OW
Much higher than?
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Much higher than?
Than if booked with UA.
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Than if booked with UA.
No kidding. Who mentioned UA here?
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No kidding. Who mentioned UA here?
Was just an assumption, but I would imagine that's what mawmaw was referring to.
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YQ is much higher around $250 OW
Ok, so...
82.5k AC + no YQ versus 52k m&m + $250
If you'd take AC over m&m, you are valuing AC at .83! WOW!
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Ok, so...
82.5k AC + no YQ versus 52k m&m + $250
If you'd take AC over m&m, you are valuing AC at .83! WOW!
Or valuing AC at 1.1 and M&M at 1.26 (or higher).
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actually i value M&M@1.75/1.8
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From what I've read, there's no way to use Miles and More points to fly from the U.S. to Israel (or even to Europe) without paying exorbitant fuel surcharges. Is this correct? I was thinking of applying for Barclay's Miles and More CC now that they've brought back the 50K bonus.
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From what I've read, there's no way to use Miles and More points to fly from the U.S. to Israel (or even to Europe) without paying exorbitant fuel surcharges. Is this correct?
Yes
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Can you have M&M hold an award if you don't have enough miles in your account yet?
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Can you have M&M hold an award if you don't have enough miles in your account yet?
No.
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Anyone had luck getting a rep to open up F space on LH?
Flights on a Sunday and Monday both have the same number of open F seats, but only the Sunday flight has award availability...
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Also if you release an award on LX using M&M does the inventory automatically go back to being available?
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Or better yet:
If you use UA or AC to put LH on hold, will it automatically go back into inventory, or is it YMMV?
LH wont put it on hold for me because its to close to the flight date.
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have all kinds of miss info from MM card ---
Applied for 20k first spend and 30k after $5k spend total 50k,
Statement closed two days ago with spending starting in early June - no fee charged - no 20k on statement or in MM acct- called Barclay got all kinds of info from different reps
told by first rep-- ur offer is only 30k after 5k spend- you got the lower version -- GOT AUTO APPROVED WITH 10K LINE !!
2nd rep--- ur offer is 35k after first spend 30k when spend 5k -total 65k
3rd rep can not say as never saw this - look in 2 different places see different offers attached to ur card -will open a case and will take 10 days to get info
Also I have friend who also did not get 20k first spend and he was charged the annual fee on his statement and paid it
any one have any info on this as to what to expect?? as I do not want to complete my 5k spend for 30k with a a/f and 30k total
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have all kinds of miss info from MM card ---
Applied for 20k first spend and 30k after $5k spend total 50k,
Statement closed two days ago with spending starting in early June - no fee charged - no 20k on statement or in MM acct- called Barclay got all kinds of info from different reps
told by first rep-- ur offer is only 30k after 5k spend- you got the lower version -- GOT AUTO APPROVED WITH 10K LINE !!
2nd rep--- ur offer is 35k after first spend 30k when spend 5k -total 65k
3rd rep can not say as never saw this - look in 2 different places see different offers attached to ur card -will open a case and will take 10 days to get info
Also I have friend who also did not get 20k first spend and he was charged the annual fee on his statement and paid it
any one have any info on this as to what to expect?? as I do not want to complete my 5k spend for 30k with a a/f and 30k total
Maybe try this in the Barclay M&M thread-this is for the M&M program itself.
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What is miles and more Cancellation policy? Change policy?
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What is miles and more Cancellation policy? Change policy?
$60
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Data points cannot ticket flights over the weekend. Same day lady minute weekend flights are a no go apparently
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Data points cannot ticket flights over the weekend. Same day lady minute weekend flights are a no go apparently
This would be more helpful if it was posted in a readable English.
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This would be more helpful if it was posted in a readable English.
+1 😀 LMAO
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FYI- I booked a EWR-LAX RT on UA J early this morning via the Germany phone # and was charged 34k without asking.
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why M&M do not show LX I availability when EF showing LX I-4 ?
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why M&M do not show LX I availability when EF showing LX I-4 ?
i tried a little later and i was able to see LX on M&M i wonder if this is normal fro LX to block availability with M&M
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Not sure what to tell you, but LX's FF program is M&M.
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isn't LX F bookable with LX miles only ?
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isn't LX F bookable with LX miles only ?
1. LX F isn't bookable with anyone unless you have status.
2. M&M is LX miles
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1. LX F isn't bookable with anyone unless you have status.
2. M&M is LX miles
my bad http://www.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/mam/uk/program/news/detail?nodeid=1465420083&l=en&cid=1000243&WT.mc_id=MRSSP000
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1. LX F isn't bookable with anyone unless you have status.
2. M&M is LX miles
That's why the last time I flew In J on LX the F was empty.
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From what I've read, there's no way to use Miles and More points to fly from the U.S. to Israel (or even to Europe) without paying exorbitant fuel surcharges. Is this correct? I was thinking of applying for Barclay's Miles and More CC now that they've brought back the 50K bonus.
So i did get the card and have the miles. Starting to look into using them. Is there no sweet spot for these miles usa-tlv?
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So i did get the card and have the miles. Starting to look into using them. Is there no sweet spot for these miles usa-tlv?
The sweet spot for TLV is the opposite way, TLV-ZRH-NYC for 52.5k + YQ with amazing availability.
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The sweet spot for TLV is the opposite way, TLV-ZRH-NYC for 52.5k + YQ with amazing availability.
Approx how much is the YQ on LX?
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Approx how much is the YQ on LX?
~$300
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The sweet spot for TLV is the opposite way, TLV-ZRH-NYC for 52.5k + YQ with amazing availability.
Would the same price be the same to LAX?
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Would the same price be the same to LAX?
Yes
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The sweet spot for TLV is the opposite way, TLV-ZRH-NYC for 52.5k + YQ with amazing availability.
Thanks.
Does the price depend if you live in israel?
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Thanks.
Does the price depend if you live in israel?
You need an Israeli address to make it 52.5k.
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You need an Israeli address to make it 52.5k.
52.5?
Isn't it 52k?
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52.5?
Isn't it 52k?
You are correct (not sure where I got the 52.5k from). And YQ on LX is $246.75.
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You are correct (not sure where I got the 52.5k from). And YQ on LX is $246.75.
It's actually 105k RT on the award chart. I guess they just round it down.
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It's actually 105k RT on the award chart. I guess they just round it down.
Thanks
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ta booked from my m&m account a ticket for 105k m&m i see that it was refunded 9 days later
plus 2 x 52k m&m from tickets that was never ticketed from my account , any info on how this works?
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ta booked from my m&m account a ticket for 105k m&m i see that it was refunded 9 days later
plus 2 x 52k m&m from tickets that was never ticketed from my account , any info on how this works?
Why don't you contact the TA or broker and find out?
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Why don't you contact the TA or broker and find out?
because if its a mistake from m&m i want to earn the 104k bonus don't want ta to claim the rest 104k if Lufthansa made a mistake
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because if its a mistake from m&m i want to earn the 104k bonus don't want ta to claim the rest 104k if Lufthansa made a mistake
The TA is entitled to whatever he bought, nothing more. If they made a mistake and credited you extra, they're yours.
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yes but he might claim that's from his other tickets he booked on a diff account etc.
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ta booked from my m&m account a ticket for 105k m&m i see that it was refunded 9 days later
plus 2 x 52k m&m from tickets that was never ticketed from my account , any info on how this works?
I get that they refunded 105K Miles, but what's the story with 2 x 52k? What exactly happened?
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What would ATH-MUC-JFK be in J?
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What would ATH-MUC-JFK be in J?
if in ATH when I am there ( right now ) , lunch for the whole Mispucha is on me 😊 Pardon the misspelling
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if in ATH when I am there ( right now ) , lunch for the whole Mispucha is on me 😊 Pardon the misspelling
I may be there 11/17 with a friend. I do appreciate the offer. If you are around, may take you upon it!
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What would ATH-MUC-JFK be in J?
52K + YQ
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I may be there 11/17 with a friend. I do appreciate the offer. If you are around, may take you upon it!
PMd you .
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I have 55K Miles & More miles, that I'd like to use on a J ticket from LAX-TLV. I'm short 12K, what's the easiest way to get them in? SPG? I heard that takes a while. Or is there something else I should be doing? The actual traveler does live in Israel, is there a way for him to book for 52K or did I misunderstand that?
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I have 55K Miles & More miles, that I'd like to use on a J ticket from LAX-TLV. I'm short 12K, what's the easiest way to get them in? SPG? I heard that takes a while. Or is there something else I should be doing? The actual traveler does live in Israel, is there a way for him to book for 52K or did I misunderstand that?
You can do TLV-LAX for that amount.
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You can do TLV-LAX for that amount.
perfect, changed to israeli address, and that worked. thanks
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I have 55K Miles & More miles, that I'd like to use on a J ticket from LAX-TLV. I'm short 12K, what's the easiest way to get them in? SPG? I heard that takes a while. Or is there something else I should be doing? The actual traveler does live in Israel, is there a way for him to book for 52K or did I misunderstand that?
You can do TLV-LAX for that amount.
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Did you mean LAX -TLV ?
perfect, changed to israeli address, and that worked. thanks
Thought you needed LAX To TLV . Confused again 😙 unless Joe4007 meant LAX-TLV
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Thought you needed LAX To TLV . Confused again 😙 unless Joe4007 meant LAX-TLV
You're right, I needed both. Thanks!
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You're right, I needed both. Thanks!
Great . subscribe to this thread and got card 2x . Any other sweet spots aside from TLV ?
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Great . subscribe to this thread and got card 2x . Any other sweet spots aside from TLV ?
AMM-USA for 52k in J (if you're address is in Jordan).
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Can I book a points+cash ticket on SWISS through miles and more?
Can I transfer Amex points to m&m at 1:1?
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AMM-USA for 52k in J (if you're address is in Jordan).
Out of curiosity, is your address in Jordan :)
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Out of curiosity, is your address in Jordan :)
No :)
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Can I book a points+cash ticket on SWISS through miles and more?
Can I transfer Amex points to m&m at 1:1?
No. No.
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Can I book a points+cash ticket on SWISS through miles and more?
Can I transfer Amex points to m&m at 1:1?
SPG is the only currency which transfers to M&M!
(Lately even this option has become risky, as it seems they are specifically auditing accounts with SPG transfer)
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Is there any way to book a points+cash ticket on SWISS airlines through any website or over the phone?
If I have miles from LH/LOT can I combine them with AMEX points to book?
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If I have miles from LH/LOT can I combine them with AMEX points to book?
You can transfer MR to SPG at 3:1 and then SPG to LH at 20:25.
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You can transfer MR to SPG at 3:1 and then SPG to LH at 20:25.
Not the best value... is the transfer value better to M&M than LH?
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Not the best value... is the transfer value better to M&M than LH?
M&M and LH are the same thing.
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How many miles is SIN-FRA and SIN-FRA-USA in F?
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How many miles is SIN-FRA and SIN-FRA-USA in F?
according to this (http://www.meilenrechner.de/spend_miles.php?language=eng) the same 105k per way for sin-fra and sin-usa
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Does any Israeli address work for discounted miles ex-TLV? Requires proof?
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Does any Israeli address work for discounted miles ex-TLV? Requires proof?
Yes.No.
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How many miles is SIN-FRA and SIN-FRA-USA in F?
105k OW
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105k OW
Even though it's a 3 region award?
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Even though it's a 3 region award?
Ding Ding Ding!
SIN-USA will be 105k as it goes via the Pacific.
SIN-FRA-USA will be 145k as it goes *the longer way* via the Atlantic and is 3 region award.
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Ding Ding Ding!
SIN-USA will be 105k as it goes via the Pacific.
SIN-FRA-USA will be 145k as it goes *the longer way* via the Atlantic and is 3 region award.
Figured, thanks.
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How much is a non-discounted award TLV-NYC? (meaning without Israeli address)
Mileage calculator on website says 67k but some of Dans say that it's more if you connect in Europe
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How much is a non-discounted award TLV-NYC? (meaning without Israeli address)
Mileage calculator on website says 67k but some of Dans say that it's more if you connect in Europe
Direct - 67k
With a connection in Europe - 92k
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Direct - 67k
With a connection in Europe - 92k
Note that with an Israeli address miles are less AND there is no supplement to connect in Europe.
No proof needed, just change address online.
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Note that with an Israeli address miles are less AND there is no supplement to connect in Europe.
No proof needed, just change address online.
I'm well aware, but OP specifically asked -
How much is a non-discounted award TLV-NYC? (meaning without Israeli address)
Mileage calculator on website says 67k but some of Dans say that it's more if you connect in Europe
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Have about 15k M&M.
Any flights that I can book with them ?
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Have about 15k M&M.
Any flights that I can book with them ?
JFK-LAX in Y or J at 12k/17k
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What's up with all these SPG transfer audits ?
Why does it seem that spg transfer partners - M&M, AS - cause so many more issues then other transferable mileage programs ?
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Note that with an Israeli address miles are less AND there is no supplement to connect in Europe.
No proof needed, just change address online.
Is there a reason why I wouldn't want to use my Israeli address?
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Is there a reason why I wouldn't want to use my Israeli address?
No.
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Is there a reason why I wouldn't want to use my Israeli address?
Do you have proof of address in case of an audit?
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Do you have proof of address in case of an audit?
Do they audit frequently? And if so, what proof do they ask for? Bill?
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Do they audit frequently? And if so, what proof do they ask for? Bill?
They've been known to audit for changing address and then immediately booking.
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They've been known to audit for changing address and then immediately booking.
So to be safer, just change address months before. :)
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According to T&C do you just need an Israeli address or do you actually need to live in Israel?
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According to T&C do you just need an Israeli address or do you actually need to live in Israel?
Whats the difference?
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If it's fraud or not
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If it's fraud or not
Respect 8)
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According to T&C do you just need an Israeli address or do you actually need to live in Israel?
Take a look at them. What does it say?
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Any recent experience booking TLV-ZRH-FRA-JFK? US call center claims it's against the routing rules, German call center can't get it done. I currently have TLV-FRA-JFK held.
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Any recent experience booking TLV-ZRH-FRA-JFK? US call center claims it's against the routing rules, German call center can't get it done. I currently have TLV-FRA-JFK held.
Might be considered backtracking. Why is ZRH needed in this itinerary?
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Might be considered backtracking. Why is ZRH needed in this itinerary?
Flat-bed?
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Flat-bed?
Yup.
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Any recent experience booking TLV-ZRH-FRA-JFK? US call center claims it's against the routing rules, German call center can't get it done. I currently have TLV-FRA-JFK held.
I did it a few days ago! The issue is having them issue the resident award.
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I did it a few days ago! The issue is having them issue the resident award.
Did they give you any issues with the routing?
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Did they give you any issues with the routing?
Yes. I had to call a few times. Call the German call center and ask to speak with a supervisor.
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Yes. I had to call a few times. Call the German call center and ask to speak with a supervisor.
Thanks so much, will give it another try in the morning.
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Thanks so much, will give it another try in the morning.
Sure thing. Good luck.
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Looking to book a OW F award for a friend. Routing is TBS to LAX via MUC/
some questions:
1 - I believe the cost would be 85K miles, but not sure what the fees come out to. when i try to price online i get an error that i dont have enough miles to book the award.
2 - Is there a discount if the friend lives in TBS and i can open his account with TBS address? (similar to TLV discount discussed in the thread)?
3 - is opening a new account and transferring a large amount from SPG a problem? can i transfer points from spouse's SPG account? how long do SPG transfer usually take?
tia
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Looking to book a OW F award for a friend. Routing is TBS to LAX via MUC/
some questions:
1 - I believe the cost would be 85K miles, but not sure what the fees come out to. when i try to price online i get an error that i dont have enough miles to book the award.
2 - Is there a discount if the friend lives in TBS and i can open his account with TBS address? (similar to TLV discount discussed in the thread)?
3 - is opening a new account and transferring a large amount from SPG a problem? can i transfer points from spouse's SPG account? how long do SPG transfer usually take?
tia
1- You can check ITA for the breakdown, and see how much the YQ is.
3- Transferring points from SPG is definitely a trigger for a audit, however if the pax is the AH I don't imagine you would have a problem, as when they audit they generally just ask to send in a copy of AH passport.
SPG-LH only last names need to match.
Transfers times can vary significantly, anywhere from about 3-10 days.
For more information, check the "SPG to airline transfer master thread"
(on Tapa so I can't search the link for you, sorry)
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Looking to book a OW F award for a friend. Routing is TBS to LAX via MUC/
some questions:
1 - I believe the cost would be 85K miles, but not sure what the fees come out to. when i try to price online i get an error that i dont have enough miles to book the award.
2 - Is there a discount if the friend lives in TBS and i can open his account with TBS address? (similar to TLV discount discussed in the thread)?
3 - is opening a new account and transferring a large amount from SPG a problem? can i transfer points from spouse's SPG account? how long do SPG transfer usually take?
tia
Nope.
The discount is as follows " For members residing in Algeria, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya,
Morocco, Syria and Tunisia, the award levels for Europe apply. The journey
must start in the member’s country of residence."
Basically, If you live in one of the above counties, then when departing from your home county, your home county is counted as Europe. So nothing here to your benefit.
Also, to be safe, make sure that the AH has photo ID with an address that matches the account (not that I think you'll be audited, just to be safe incase..)
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Thank you both for your replies. very informative.
unfortunately, it looks like i overlooked one important fact, that TBS is not part of Europe on their region maps. so it basically becomes a 3-region award and requires more miles than available.
you win some you lose some...
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Searching for MIA-FRA-HKG in F on AC/UA with no problem within 2 weeks, and wanted to search for longer out on M&M but nothing shows up. Even the flights that show up on AC/UA within 2 weeks are not showing up on M&M. :-\
Any idea why?
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Searching for MIA-FRA-HKG in F on AC/UA with no problem within 2 weeks, and wanted to search for longer out on M&M but nothing shows up. Even the flights that show up on AC/UA within 2 weeks are not showing up on M&M. :-\
Any idea why?
Phantom? Try clicking through on AC.
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Phantom? Try clicking through on AC.
I don't have enough miles to book it so I can only select it before it prompts me that I don't have enough miles but I have not heard of much phantom space for LH F when it comes to AC.
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I don't have enough miles to book it so I can only select it before it prompts me that I don't have enough miles but I have not heard of much phantom space for LH F when it comes to AC.
I've had a lot of issues with LH J.
You can PM me if you'd like to give me the flight numbers.
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if a flight on lx/ua shows on all other sites, what is the reason they dont show on Milesmore site? Is it a matter of just calling them?
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if a flight on lx/ua shows on all other sites, what is the reason they dont show on Milesmore site? Is it a matter of just calling them?
Miles and More does not show partner availability on their site. Need to call in to book.
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Thanks!
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Miles and More does not show partner availability on their site. Need to call in to book.
I SAW LX flights for award travel on LH site
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I SAW LX flights for award travel on LH site
LX is part of m&m
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LX is part of m&m
YES lx show up on M&M SITE---My reply was to the WRONG info posted by elya below
Quote from: elya on June 02, 2016, 07:49:30 PM
Miles and More does not show partner availability on their site. Need to call in to book.
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YES lx show up on M&M SITE---My reply was to the WRONG info posted by elya below
Quote from: elya on June 02, 2016, 07:49:30 PM
Miles and More does not show partner availability on their site. Need to call in to book.
Now if LX is part of M&M and thereby not partner, What about my post is wrong info exactly?
I was actually contemplating adding to my original post that LH, LX, OS, and SN are all part of part of M&M and would therefore show online, as opposed to UA (which is what OP asked about) and the like which are partners, and would thereby necessitate calling in to book.
But I figured the folks around here are knowledgeable enough to understand what I meant, I am sorry to have been proven wrong in this regard.
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"But I figured the folks around here are knowledgeable enough to understand what I meant, I am sorry to have been proven wrong in this regard."
so your a nasty smart ass too
not worth my time to reply-
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"But I figured the folks around here are knowledgeable enough to understand what I meant, I am sorry to have been proven wrong in this regard."
so your a nasty smart ass too
not worth my time to reply-
How about you think twice next time before posting in Bold Capital letters that misinformation was posted, when in fact its just your ignorance.
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I have a J ticket on LH and was waitlisted for F by a supervisor in the California call center. Does anyone have experience with M&M waitlist? They say they can only do it for F, not J.
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Does changing the address to Israel still help to pay less miles ?
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Does changing the address to Israel still help to pay less miles ?
Yes. Only ex-TLV though.
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Yes. Only ex-TLV though.
Thanx, do they allow one way redemptions ?
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Thanx, do they allow one way redemptions ?
yes
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can i book a award flght for a friend with my m&m isreali add.?
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shalom chaverim!
i got a question that might be kind of tough to answer..
what is a good use for m&m miles?
the flights to euro carry over 600$ taxes?!
i dont get it! whats the point?
i live in ny & have family in israel.
got 36k.
any info \ clarity will be greatly appreciated!
thanks
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shalom chaverim!
i got a question that might be kind of tough to answer..
what is a good use for m&m miles?
the flights to euro carry over 600$ taxes?!
i dont get it! whats the point?
i live in ny & have family in israel.
got 36k.
any info \ clarity will be greatly appreciated!
thanks
34-5K gets you a domestic RT in business on United.
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34-5K gets you a domestic RT in business on United.
great! thank you!
any advice on how to search and book that?
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great! thank you!
any advice on how to search and book that?
Search on United for business saver awards and call miles and more to book.
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can i book a award flght for a friend with my m&m isreali add.?
Yes.
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Search on United for business saver awards and call miles and more to book.
do i need to have a MileagePlus account in order to search?
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No.
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No.
joe, thank you so much for your reply. every time!
can you explain the difference btwn saver and standard award?
am i better off choosing a flight that is available for saver award?
or is it all the same to m&m?
and also, when i call m&m, what exactly do i say? do i give them the dates and flight #? just dates?
anything else i need to know?
(this is my first time booking an award 8))
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joe, thank you so much for your reply. every time!
can you explain the difference btwn saver and standard award?
am i better off choosing a flight that is available for saver award?
or is it all the same to m&m?
and also, when i call m&m, what exactly do i say? do i give them the dates and flight #? just dates?
anything else i need to know?
(this is my first time booking an award 8))
Glad to help.
Partners only have access to saver awards, so that's what you need to look for.
Either should work.
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ok, great!
one last question for now: :D
on united some flights show miles +5.60. some show miles +11.20 and some miles +86.20.
how does that play out with m&m?
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ok, great!
one last question for now: :D
on united some flights show miles +5.60. some show miles +11.20 and some miles +86.20.
how does that play out with m&m?
Lol. The $5.60 flights are probably one way, the $11.20 round-trip, and the $86.20 is a round-trip within 21 days that they're charging a $75 close in fee (which is irrelevant to you).
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did anyone here ever book a companion ticket?
i mean: is it a real thing? do you really get 2 tickets for the price of one
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Do m&m. Miles expire after 3 years regardless of activity ?
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Do m&m. Miles expire after 3 years regardless of activity ?
Unless you have their CC.
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Does changing the address to Israel still help to pay less miles ?
Is it totally safe to do this?
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Is it totally safe to do this?
There is a higher risk of them asking you to send in a copy of AH passport, and proof of address in some instances (their version of auditing the account) if you are booking for a 3rd party.
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which M&M number do i use as my "frequent flyer" number when transferring SPG points? is the it the 15 digit "card number" or there is another 9 digit number associated with the account?
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which M&M number do i use as my "frequent flyer" number when transferring SPG points? is the it the 15 digit "card number" or there is another 9 digit number associated with the account?
That.
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Thank you
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Any way to extend the lifetime of miles n more points ? Got 55k expiring end of September
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Any way to extend the lifetime of miles n more points ? Got 55k expiring end of September
And your card is closed?
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Yup
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Use their shopping site.
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Use their shopping site.
Does that extend the lifetime of the miles or are you suggesting I should buy something with the miles ?
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Just to extend the life. Buy something cheap.
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Just to extend the life. Buy something cheap.
Thanx
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Use their shopping site.
I don't think that'll do. Do you have experience otherwise?
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Any activity isn't good enough? Sorry if I gave misinformation.
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Oy I'm sorry. Miles and More is different.
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/10/17/lufthansa-miles-expire/
Sorry for posting outside site. That's what Google cane up with.
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Is 55k an amount that I can get an award ticket USA europe ?
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Is 55k an amount that I can get an award ticket USA europe ?
Yep. 52K OW in J.
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Yep. 52K OW in J.
Or TLV-NYC 52k OW J with Israeli address on file.
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Or TLV-NYC 52k OW J with Israeli address on file.
Does Israeli address help for nyc europe or opposite ?
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Does Israeli address help for nyc europe or opposite ?
No
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If an LX business flight is available, would it also be bookable through United ?
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If an LX business flight is available, would it also be bookable through United ?
yes if saver is available
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If an LX business flight is available, would it also be bookable through United ?
M&M has much better availability on their own partners than what they open for *A.
So the answer to your question is, usually not.
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M&M has much better availability on their own partners than what they open for *A.
So the answer to your question is, usually not.
That is so true, M&M has tons of options and nothing showing with *A.
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Thinking about booking a ticket for a random date a few months out and then changing the date, what are the fees for changing an award ticket date ?
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[quote author=eli1571 link=topic=45951.msg1551729#msg1551729 date=1473172659
Got 55k expiring end of September
Thinking about booking a ticket for a random date a few months out and then changing the date, what are the fees for changing an award ticket date ?
50 EUR. Per passenger.
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50 EUR. Per passenger.
Thanx. Any difference economy or business ?
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Thanx. Any difference economy or business ?
Don't think so.
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Don't think so.
Thanx for your help.
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How much miles is nyc-tlv? and how much tax on swiss business class?
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Earn 6,000 M&M Miles for 20 Euro - http://www.mightytravels.com/2016/09/earn-6000-lufthansa-miles-more-miles-for-22-48-with-mtx-connect-just-0-4-cents-per-mile/.
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Just a data point, seems as if with M&M you can get practically any and every seat with miles even if there is only one or two left for sale.
I just booked using my miles for LX in j from TLV for 2 seats, and these are the last few available on that flight.
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Just a data point, seems as if with M&M you can get practically any and every seat with miles even if there is only one or two left for sale.
I just booked using my miles for LX in j from TLV for 2 seats, and these are the last few available on that flight.
And the flight I want has over 20 seats available for sale, but none for mileage.
There is no generalization with these things..
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Earn 6,000 M&M Miles for 20 Euro - http://www.mightytravels.com/2016/09/earn-6000-lufthansa-miles-more-miles-for-22-48-with-mtx-connect-just-0-4-cents-per-mile/.
Card received in the mail, and topped up today with 20 euro. Per the T&C 6,000 miles should post in 3 days but can take up to 4 weeks.
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Card received in the mail, and topped up today with 20 euro. Per the T&C 6,000 miles should post in 3 days but can take up to 4 weeks.
The 5,000 miles already posted to account for 20 euro.
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We can order and be rewarded in the US? Did you use any type of European address?
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We can order and be rewarded in the US? Did you use any type of European address?
Yup works perfect in US, no Europe address needed.
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The 5,000 miles already posted to account for 20 euro.
5k or 6k?
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Card received in the mail, and topped up today with 20 euro. Per the T&C 6,000 miles should post in 3 days but can take up to 4 weeks.
Wanted to order, but (1) they wanted 5€ just for ordering, and (2) noticed the following in the T&C: This marketing offer valid for the first 1000 ordered SIM-cards.
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5k or 6k?
It's 5,000 for doing the first top up of 20 euro, and 50 for every euro loaded, so if both of them combine, another 1,000 should post soon.
Wanted to order, but (1) they wanted 5€ just for ordering, and (2) noticed the following in the T&C: This marketing offer valid for the first 1000 ordered SIM-cards.
Saw that too on the limit, wouldn't they remove the page to show the promo? Didn't have to pay a fee to request the card, and it was sent quickly.
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Wanted to order, but (1) they wanted 5€ just for ordering.
Still not seeing charge http://miles.mtxc.eu/en/order/.
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Still not seeing charge http://miles.mtxc.eu/en/order/.
go through with the order and you will see it
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Is the fee to switch from OS to LX/LH €50?
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Is the fee to switch from OS to LX/LH €50?
€50
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€50
Thanks.
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my points expire at the end of December, any way to keep them active? i just got a barclay arrival plus card a few weeks ago so not sure if i would be able to get a new m&m before then :/
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How much is TLV-NYC in F booked from a m&m account with Israeli address?
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How much is TLV-NYC in F booked from a m&m account with Israeli address?
should be 85k ow plus yq
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Tnx
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Card received in the mail, and topped up today with 20 euro. Per the T&C 6,000 miles should post in 3 days but can take up to 4 weeks.
Got my miles 3 days after i topped up. Thanks
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Got my miles 3 days after i topped up. Thanks
Great, glad someone else got to benefit too.
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Great, glad someone else got to benefit too.
Just bought another one for my daughter's account. Does this extend life of all miles or do you still need to spend monthly on cc to extend or earn from revenue. I messed up and missed a month on my cc.
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Just bought another one for my daughter's account. Does this extend life of all miles or do you still need to spend monthly on cc to extend or earn from revenue. I messed up and missed a month on my cc.
its still alive?
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its still alive?
Until Jan 8 according to the link
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What's the best way to top off an account now 2-5k?
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What's the best way to top off an account now 2-5k?
transfer from spg
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transfer from spg
Different names
Cc was closed....
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Different names
Cc was closed....
i guess your only other option is to use their shopping portal or maybe the calling card thing mentioned above. Or sign up for their credit card but those aren't quick.
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Is there an expiration for the calling card thing?
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Is there an expiration for the calling card thing?
look up
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look up
It appears it ended at September 30, for the 5k but 50 points per dollar is still valid
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It appears it ended at September 30, for the 5k but 50 points per dollar is still valid
Free SIM ended then. Now its 5 Euro for the SIM and first load should get you 5k until January
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Free SIM ended then. Now its 5 Euro for the SIM and first load should get you 5k until January
Any way to confirm this?
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Can a m&m award hold expire anytime like sq, or is it guaranteed for the hold period?
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How much would YQ be for LH F OW, NYC-FRA-YLV ?
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How much would YQ be for LH F OW, NYC-FRA-YLV ?
Using M&M?
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Using M&M?
Yes.
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How much would YQ be for LH F OW, NYC-FRA-YLV ?
I assume you mean TLV
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Is there an expiration for the calling card thing?
It appears it ended at September 30, for the 5k but 50 points per dollar is still valid
Free SIM ended then. Now its 5 Euro for the SIM and first load should get you 5k until January
Any way to confirm this?
Just got 5k M&M posted on SIM purchased after September 30
Seems like its churnable. Giddyup!!!
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Just got 5k M&M posted on SIM purchased after September 30
Seems like its churnable. Giddyup!!!
You've gotten more than one 5K?
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You've gotten more than one 5K?
you can have more than 1 account
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you can have more than 1 account
more than one M&M or more than one sim account?
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Just got 5k M&M posted on SIM purchased after September 30
Seems like its churnable. Giddyup!!!
What are the costs currently?
Link?
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What are the costs currently?
Link?
Same link as above. 5€ for SIM and 20€ for 5k
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Same link as above. 5€ for SIM and 20€ for 5k
Awesome thanks!
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more than one M&M or more than one sim account?
M&M
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M&M
So it's one per M&M?
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So it's one per M&M?
yes
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yes
So not churnable then.
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whats the best use of expiring miles if i don't plan to use them for flights before expiration date?
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whats the best use of expiring miles if i don't plan to use them for flights before expiration date?
How many?
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How many?
approx 55,000 in account and 21,000 in another
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approx 55,000 in account and 21,000 in another
Easiest is to sell them. 55k you should have no problem selling. 21 I don't know of anything you can use for...
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Easiest is to sell them. 55k you should have no problem selling. 21 I don't know of anything you can use for...
except for selling what are the best alternatives?
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except for selling what are the best alternatives?
Vacation!
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Vacation!
Not sure if i can fly before expiration date. Wanted to know other good uses with these miles or are they strictly for flights only
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Can anyone confirm M&M rate for business from TLV-NYC with an israeli address is 52K one way? everything is coming up for me at 92K one way
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Can anyone confirm M&M rate for business from TLV-NYC with an israeli address is 52K one way? everything is coming up for me at 92K one way
Still 52k If you PUTPAC to book.
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What is a better use of miles/points getting a 12.5K United flight or using 14K Amex points?
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What is a better use of miles/points getting a 12.5K United flight or using 14K Amex points?
First of all you're in the wrong thread, second of all I don't understand your question at all.
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Added Wiki.
Are taxes and fees on Air Canada metal (YYZ to PBI) the same as would be with United miles?
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Thanks Thingywingy!
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Added Wiki.
from wiki
All United flights between JFK and Los Angeles or S. Francisco and several flights from Newark have lie-flat seats in business class.
United no longer fly from JFK & don't all flights from EWR- LAX have lie-flat in J?
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from wiki
United no longer fly from JFK & don't all flights from EWR- LAX have lie-flat in J?
no not all united flights ewr-lax have lie flat
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no not all united flights ewr-lax have lie flat
You sure about that?
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You sure about that?
only the non-stops do the ones that connect do not
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only the non-stops do the ones that connect do not
Duh. That's what he meant.
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only the non-stops do the ones that connect do not
Oh Lord
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only the non-stops do the ones that connect do not
The ones with a stop are EWR-xxx-LAX, not ewr-lax.
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I don't know what all the flaming is for. Not everyone will understand what you mean you gotta be more specific. Sorry if 3 people found it obvious
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will M&M only book nonstop saver business United award flights for example ewr-lax or also ones with a stop over? If only nonstop can you piece together two one way flights for example ewr-ord and ord-lax
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anybody?
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will M&M only book nonstop saver business United award flights for example ewr-lax or also ones with a stop over? If only nonstop can you piece together two one way flights for example ewr-ord and ord-lax
They can book anything as it's saver availability
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Good luck finding nonstop saver in J from EWR-LAX
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They can book anything as it's saver availability
are you sure about that? when I call them they seem to only locate nonstop?
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are you sure about that? when I call them they seem to only locate nonstop?
Are you sure it's saver availability, give them the flight numbers
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are you sure about that? when I call them they seem to only locate nonstop?
I had the issue with SQ what you have to do is treat it as 2 separate segments so lets say you are doing EWR-LAX with a stop in IAH. let them search EWR-IAH and then IAH to LAX and they should be able to book it as one award
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Good luck finding nonstop saver in J from EWR-LAX
Comes and goes. Just last week I booked a friends family of 4 EWR-LAX in business saver.
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Good for you, I gave up on that route
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I have some Lufthansa miles & more points expiring in a few days, what's the best way to keep them active? Is there a way?
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I have some Lufthansa miles & more points expiring in a few days, what's the best way to keep them active? Is there a way?
No, you may be able to open an M&M card as cardholders points don't expire but I don't know how that works for you're previous miles.
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Transfer SPG doesn't work to extend?
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Transfer SPG doesn't work to extend?
No.
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No, you may be able to open an M&M card as cardholders points don't expire but I don't know how that works for you're previous miles.
cardholders need monthly activity to prevent expiration.
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cardholders need monthly activity to prevent expiration.
I'm aware, that's why I said I don't know if it'll work since it's so close to when his points expire.
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I'm aware, that's why I said I don't know if it'll work since it's so close to when his points expire.
IIRC a phone agent told me 3 months of activity to prevent expiration, and it applies to the whole account, including previously accrued.
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IIRC a phone agent told me 3 months of activity to prevent expiration, and it applies to the whole account, including previously accrued.
So you just need to just spend on the card for the months before they expire or do you have to keep spending?
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Seems like if you stop the activity, they'll return to previous expiration schedule in the next quarter. Per https://www.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/mam/de/nonav/no_taxonomy_simple?nodeid=2552761&size=2&l=en&cid=18002
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I followed all the steps for the sim card and my miles still didn't post. What could I have done wrong?
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I followed all the steps for the sim card and my miles still didn't post. What could I have done wrong?
Mine posted within 3 days...
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Mine posted within 3 days...
its been at least 2 weeks
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its been at least 2 weeks
Did you add your ff number when you registered the sim?
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Did you add your ff number when you registered the sim?
yep
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yep
Sorry idk wish I could help
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do miles and more convert to any hotels? (marriott for instance)
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I may want to cancel a Miles N More flight on LX TLV-ZRH Am hoping they do an equipment change so they wont charge for redeposit.
Is there a minimum cancel time (like some other airlines cant cancel 3 days before)?
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I may want to cancel a Miles N More flight on LX TLV-ZRH Am hoping they do an equipment change so they wont charge for redeposit.
Is there a minimum cancel time (like some other airlines cant cancel 3 days before)?
Why are you convinced they will let you cancel for free in the event of a equipment swap?
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not convinced but worth a shot i thought. not going to work?
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not convinced but worth a shot i thought. not going to work?
I definitely wouldnt bank on it, based on my experiences with them..
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I may want to cancel a Miles N More flight on LX TLV-ZRH Am hoping they do an equipment change so they wont charge for redeposit.
Is there a minimum cancel time (like some other airlines cant cancel 3 days before)?
What is the yq charges for that flight?
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its through to IAD on UA,it was over $200
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its through to IAD on UA,it was over $200
Wow that's expensive.
Just called and they wanted $585 in taxes yul to zrh on lx
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I may want to cancel a Miles N More flight on LX TLV-ZRH Am hoping they do an equipment change so they wont charge for redeposit.
Is there a minimum cancel time (like some other airlines cant cancel 3 days before)?
Bump
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Bump
No. you can even cancel after the flight.
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No. you can even cancel after the flight.
How is that possible?
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I want to upgrade a Austrian economy ticket for today , how can i do it with someone else's miles?
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I want to upgrade a Austrian economy ticket for today , how can i do it with someone else's miles?
Call M&M.
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Call M&M.
Even with someone else's miles?
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Does 17k Lufthansa on United Biz work for tickets to Alaska?
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FYI - Within 24 hours Lufthansa does allow free cancellations even on United medal.
I tried booking a business class domestic ticket that showed saver award on United, but was told it's not available to M&M. Is there any reliable way to see if M&M will allow award? Is it dependent on ticket class? Any way to find than information?
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Any good uses for 10K LH?
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Does 15k for israeli address to Europe still work?
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Does 15k for israeli address to Europe still work?
All options from Israel still work, you just have to call them as the website does not price properly.
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Does 15k for israeli address to Europe still work?
Economy?
What's the yq on it?
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Anyone else having trouble logging into the website, after requesting to reset pw which then comes to my email, the new password i choose doesnt work.
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Anyone else having trouble logging into the website, after requesting to reset pw which then comes to my email, the new password i choose doesnt work.
Usually means account is closed.
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Are they known for doing that? For what reason? No selling of miles. Only activity is booked ticket for spouse and cancelled when not needed.
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Are they known for doing that? For what reason? No selling of miles. Only activity is booked ticket for spouse and cancelled when not needed.
Did you transfer in points from Spg?
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Nope. Only got from credit card
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Nope. Only got from credit card
Then chances are it's not closed. Call the Germany office and see what's going on.
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Does miles and more have any transfer partners ?
Any difference in amount of miles required for Tlv - Lon route if account is based in USA or Israel ?
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Does miles and more have any transfer partners ?
SPG.
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Then chances are it's not closed. Call the Germany office and see what's going on.
Thanks you, you were correct. Took a month to sort it out. Not sure what the issue was, could be award wallet trying to login with wrong info or possibly account really was compromised.
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Thanks you, you were correct. Took a month to sort it out. Not sure what the issue was, could be award wallet trying to login with wrong info or possibly account really was compromised.
Ye they are a HUGE PITA to deal with. But glad it worked out for you in the end.
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Is there phantom availability on M&M? Was looking for EWR-TLV and it gives me a valid routing for EWR-MUC-TLV bookable online but phone reps cannot find the same availability. Cant seem to replicate the MUC-TLV portion online either. Is there a better number than the US customer service line which seems to be German anyway?
Also wondering why NYC-MUC-TLV is 92k in J, but if you split it up into NYC-MUC is 52k and MUC-TLV is 35k in J. with slightly more YQ.
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Is there phantom availability on M&M? Was looking for EWR-TLV and it gives me a valid routing for EWR-MUC-TLV bookable online but phone reps cannot find the same availability. Cant seem to replicate the MUC-TLV portion online either. Is there a better number than the US customer service line which seems to be German anyway?
Also wondering why NYC-MUC-TLV is 92k in J, but if you split it up into NYC-MUC is 52k and MUC-TLV is 35k in J. with slightly more YQ.
My experience is that there can be phantom, but the lack of ability to find the second flight on its own is not proof that it is
HUCA a few times and ask them to search each leg individually (even though it's not showing for you that way)
No idea about your second question
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My experience is that there can be phantom, but the lack of ability to find the second flight on its own is not proof that it is
HUCA a few times and ask them to search each leg individually (even though it's not showing for you that way)
No idea about your second question
Thanks. They dont see either route. Will HUCA
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Is there phantom availability on M&M? Was looking for EWR-TLV and it gives me a valid routing for EWR-MUC-TLV bookable online but phone reps cannot find the same availability. Cant seem to replicate the MUC-TLV portion online either. Is there a better number than the US customer service line which seems to be German anyway?
Also wondering why NYC-MUC-TLV is 92k in J, but if you split it up into NYC-MUC is 52k and MUC-TLV is 35k in J. with slightly more YQ.
And the answer is...the dreaded married segment. >:( >:( >:(
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why am I only seeing flex award pricing on the website, even though the tickets are bookable on united.com? (and it's not phantom availability, it's on austrian.)
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why am I only seeing flex award pricing on the website, even though the tickets are bookable on united.com? (and it's not phantom availability, it's on austrian.)
route?
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route?
tlv-nyc
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tlv-nyc
Israeli address? If yes, call them and they will book it properly at 52k
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tlv-nyc
Date?
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sept 7
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why am I only seeing flex award pricing on the website, even though the tickets are bookable on united.com? (and it's not phantom availability, it's on austrian.)
Flex award pricing on miles and more is their saver level
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sept 7
I see the same flight available at saver level on both. You'll have to call for the pricing you want as hvaces42 said
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Keep in mind you'll be paying less miles but a lot more $ booking with miles and more vs United
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sept 7
Just curious why you would want the Austrian award? The one on Swiss looks much better to me. Somewhat less travel time, real business in both segments, and you land earlier
It even has $15 less taxes and fees
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Keep in mind you'll be paying less miles but a lot more $ booking with miles and more vs United
YQ < 28k UA
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YQ < 28k UA
Fair enough. I made the same choice
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I see the same flight available at saver level on both. You'll have to call for the pricing you want as hvaces42 said
flex is showing at 92k for ow business. the mileage calculator says 67k, without the israeli residence discount.
Just curious why you would want the Austrian award? The one on Swiss looks much better to me. Somewhat less travel time, real business in both segments, and you land earlier
It even has $15 less taxes and fees
i'm not taking the austrian flight, i just didnt want to say swiss/lufthansa or people would start telling me phantom availability.
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flex is showing at 92k for ow business. the mileage calculator says 67k, without the israeli residence discount.
67k? J?
Its 35k in J TLV-EU and then 52k EU-US thats 87k
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67k? J?
Its 35k in J TLV-EU and then 52k EU-US thats 87k
http://www.meilenrechner.de/spend_miles.php?language=eng
take a look
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http://www.meilenrechner.de/spend_miles.php?language=eng
take a look
Strange...and great!
Call them and please report back. Looking to book in the next few days as well and it was pricing at 92k too but the other way.
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67k? J?
Its 35k in J TLV-EU and then 52k EU-US thats 87k
TLV-xxx-NYC J with an israeli address is 52k M&M on the phone.
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http://www.meilenrechner.de/spend_miles.php?language=eng
take a look
It says "from 67k". So it's probably technically possible to be that rate but usually the 92k quoted with a us address
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Booked TLV-FRA-JFK for 52k + $292.34, changed to TLV-EWR. They charged me 50EUR change fee plus 90.45EUR (no clue what for). Flew and they refunded me $37.14 Been on the phone with them for an hour plus and cannot get a straight answer how UA direct flight can be more expensive than LH.
ETA: LH claims UA collected $303 in YQ >:(
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Seems they only allow searching for award tickets if you have 7k miles, anyone else getting this? any work around?
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I'm surprised no one posted this already but Lufthansa is offering almost 50% off to a number of European cities between 1/04/18 & 15/05/18 when flying from Dallas, Washington, or Tampa. Round trip tickets in economy are 30K instead of 60, and business is 55k instead of 105k.
M & M promo page (http://www.meilenschnaeppchen.de/?lang=en)
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I'm surprised no one posted this already but Lufthansa is offering almost 50% off to a number of European cities between 1/04/18 & 15/05/18 when flying from Dallas, Washington, or Tampa. Round trip tickets in economy are 30K instead of 60, and business is 55k instead of 105k.
M & M promo page (http://www.meilenschnaeppchen.de/?lang=en)
They have those all the time. YQ absolutely decimates the savings.
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I'm surprised no one posted this already but Lufthansa is offering almost 50% off to a number of European cities between 1/04/18 & 15/05/18 when flying from Dallas, Washington, or Tampa. Round trip tickets in economy are 30K instead of 60, and business is 55k instead of 105k.
M & M promo page (http://www.meilenschnaeppchen.de/?lang=en)
Yq is sky high
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searching on m&m website flights business from NY to TLV don't come up at all, but when I search separately each leg there is plenty of avail, is this new?
also the YQ on the NY-EU legs are over $500 pp, will that be the same YQ to TLV or will it be lower? i booked this a year ago YQ was around $250 each
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searching on m&m website flights business from NY to TLV don't come up at all, but when I search separately each leg there is plenty of avail, is this new?
also the YQ on the NY-EU legs are over $500 pp, will that be the same YQ to TLV or will it be lower? i booked this a year ago YQ was around $250 each
Depends what airline. I had to call to book that route when I had the same problem.
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Depends what airline. I had to call to book that route when I had the same problem.
How about the YQ do you remember if it was that high? It's showing $500 pp ob LH, LX, OS
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How about the YQ do you remember if it was that high? It's showing $500 pp ob LH, LX, OS
Thats what it is. Iy should come down IIRC when they marry the 2 segments.
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Thats what it is. Iy should come down IIRC when they marry the 2 segments.
OK Thanks I will call and see what they say
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Anyone know if MM has a call center open on Sunday?
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Doubt it. The US office is LA based IIRC. Theyre open US business hours. M-F 8-5?
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searching on m&m website flights business from NY to TLV don't come up at all, but when I search separately each leg there is plenty of avail, is this new?
also the YQ on the NY-EU legs are over $500 pp, will that be the same YQ to TLV or will it be lower? i booked this a year ago YQ was around $250 each
Call to book.
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Call to book.
YQ TLV-EU-NYC is around 450 round drip, on LH or LX.
FWIW, YQ on the UA direct flights TLV-NYC/SFO is around 750 round trip if booked using Miles and More
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YQ TLV-EU-NYC is around 450 round drip, on LH or LX.
FWIW, YQ on the UA direct flights TLV-NYC/SFO is around 750 round trip if booked using Miles and More
m & m does not charge YQ on UA metal
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m & m does not charge YQ on UA metal
Yes they do..
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Yes they do..
+1
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Yes they do..
my bad after double checking they do. The wiki implies that they do not
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I thought the same when i switched from LH TLV-FRA-EWR to UA85 TLV-EWR and got hit with 50 Euro chamge charge plus ~$300 in YQ
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I thought the same when i switched from LH TLV-FRA-EWR to UA85 TLV-EWR and got hit with 50 Euro chamge charge plus ~$300 in YQ
Within USA (or maybe all NA) they don't
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Call to book.
So I put TLV-NYC on Hold was 52K (israel address) and about $300 YQ pp (on a side note agent showed legs avail that did NOT show on m&m site even when searched separately)
However, when I tried to do NYC-TLV via MUC with the first leg in first class and second leg in Economy they quoted me 145K miles pp saying it was a 3 region award or something, is this correct price os should I HUCA
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So I put TLV-NYC on Hold was 52K (israel address) and about $300 YQ pp (on a side note agent showed legs avail that did NOT show on m&m site even when searched separately)
However, when I tried to do NYC-TLV via MUC with the first leg in first class and second leg in Economy they quoted me 145K miles pp saying it was a 3 region award or something, is this correct price os should I HUCA
Thats correct. HUCA will not help.
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So I put TLV-NYC on Hold was 52K (israel address) and about $300 YQ pp (on a side note agent showed legs avail that did NOT show on m&m site even when searched separately)
However, when I tried to do NYC-TLV via MUC with the first leg in first class and second leg in Economy they quoted me 145K miles pp saying it was a 3 region award or something, is this correct price os should I HUCA
You wont get Israel price in that direction but it should be one award. Just tell them you want NYC-TLV with a mixed cabin award. They were probably pricing as 2 awards one in F and the other in J.
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You wont get Israel price in that direction but it should be one award. Just tell them you want NYC-TLV with a mixed cabin award. They were probably pricing as 2 awards one in F and the other in J.
-1 US-TLV with a stop in EU prices as a 3 region award on their end.
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-1 US-TLV with a stop in EU prices as a 3 region award on their end.
New?
So was pricing at 105 K and 40K? MUC-TLV is 20k IIRC.
Also IMHO F to Europe is a waste. Flight is too short to enjoy bed etc.
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New?
Nope
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-1 US-TLV with a stop in EU prices as a 3 region award on their end.
Is this only for First or for all classes? and if only for First is it the same the opposite direction if there's an EU stop?
YQ TLV-EU-NYC is around 450 round drip, on LH or LX.
FWIW, YQ on the UA direct flights TLV-NYC/SFO is around 750 round trip if booked using Miles and More
is the $450 price for J? and if it is does that mean RT will be less YQ than booking each direction separately? as it seems to be about $300 pp each direction
Also IMHO F to Europe is a waste. Flight is too short to enjoy bed etc.
I agree but J was not avail didn't think First would be that much more...
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is the $450 price for J? and if it is does that mean RT will be less YQ than booking each direction separately? as it seems to be about $300 pp each direction
YQ is always more Eastbound Ex-US
Looking now, there is something weird going on with their website. No availability on LH in any class NYC-TLV Only coming up with Ethiopian and AC :o :o
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YQ is always more Eastbound Ex-US
I understand, I'm wondering if there's any savings to be had by booking RT vs each direction on it's own
Looking now, there is something weird going on with their website. No availability on LH in any class NYC-TLV Only coming up with Ethiopian and AC :o :o
Yes that's what I am seeing as well however if you search each leg there is more availabilty, and on the phone there's even more for some reason
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Yes that's what I am seeing as well however if you search each leg there is more availabilty, and on the phone there's even more for some reason
How did they get to 145k? It should be 85k in F NYC-MUC then 35k in J or 20k in Y for MUC-TLV.
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How did they get to 145k? It should be 85k in F NYC-MUC then 35k in J or 20k in Y for MUC-TLV.
She called it a 3 region award and said that was the reason
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She called it a 3 region award and said that was the reason
So split it in 2 and it wont be.
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Nope
Its not on their award chart. How do they even come off doing this? The itinerary he searched is 105k booked seperately.
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Its not on their award chart. How do they even come off doing this? The itinerary he searched is 105k booked seperately.
It actually is. See below.
They priced it as a 3 region F award, which it is.
(https://i.imgur.com/QGvTrBe.png)
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It actually is. See below.
They priced it as a 3 region F award, which it is.
(https://i.imgur.com/QGvTrBe.png)
The 3 region award is. Why is this a 3 region award? Its 2 regions europe and ME.
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The 3 region award is. Why is this a 3 region award? Its 2 regions europe and ME.
If you split it in 2, then you're right, it is not, but if you want it under 1 PNR, it is going to be a 3 region award (NA,EU,ME).
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If you split it in 2, then you're right, it is not, but if you want it under 1 PNR, it is going to be a 3 region award (NA,EU,ME).
Then why isn't it the same in reverse?
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Then why isn't it the same in reverse?
It is, unless you have an Israeli address in which case they see it as originating in EU.
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It is, unless you have an Israeli address in which case they see it as originating in EU.
I dont know but i was searching for TLV-NYC without Israeli address and it was giving me 105k. This was last summer so unless something changed...
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FYI if you search EWR-TLV now you get Ethiopian awards in J at 67k. I just think their pricing is messed up.
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I dont know but i was searching for TLV-NYC without Israeli address and it was giving me 105k. This was last summer so unless something changed...
Is it possible 3 region award in F price went up from 210K to 290K?
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Is it possible 3 region award in F price went up from 210K to 290K?
AFAIK there hasnt been a devaluation anytime recently.
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Is this only for First or for all classes? and if only for First is it the same the opposite direction if there's an EU stop?
All classes.
Opposite direction I am not sure, being as I have only booked from accounts with an Israeli address which prices it as starting in EU.
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All classes.
Opposite direction I am not sure, being as I have only booked from accounts with an Israeli address which prices it as starting in EU.
My account was mjstakenly set to Jordan which doesnt get you European pricing if leaving from TLV
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If you split it in 2, then you're right, it is not, but if you want it under 1 PNR, it is going to be a 3 region award (NA,EU,ME).
Would it be possible to book it speratly and then have them combine it to one PNR?
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Would it be possible to book it speratly and then have them combine it to one PNR?
AFAIK they can link in notes but not merge
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AFAIK they can link in notes but not merge
Ended up reserving in J for 92K pp
MM website is really not working, even when searching leg by leg the phone agent had J that didn't show on site
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Ended up reserving in J for 92K pp
MM website is really not working, even when searching leg by leg the phone agent had J that didn't show on site
How did they get to that number?
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How did they get to that number?
I am not really sure but I am guessing it's half the 3 region award price in J?
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I am not really sure but I am guessing it's half the 3 region award price in J?
Yep. 185k / 2 and rounded down.
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So why not book separately for 87k?
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So why not book separately for 87k?
I didn't book it yet just on hold, not sure if worth it the hassle of having it one 2 PNR's to save 10K miles...
Edit: Actually the 2nd leg (ZRH-TLV) is in economy since no J avail, so booking separate may be much fewer miles, however the YQ I believe will shoot up as JFK-ZRH shows $500 YQ pp on their site while JFK-ZRH-TLV was less than $300 YQ pp
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I didn't book it yet just on hold, not sure if worth it the hassle of having it one 2 PNR's to save 10K miles...
Edit: Actually the 2nd leg (ZRH-TLV) is in economy since no J avail, so booking separate may be much fewer miles, however the YQ I believe will shoot up as JFK-ZRH shows $500 YQ pp on their site while JFK-ZRH-TLV was less than $300 YQ pp
67k? vs 92k the points are worth more than the $200 extra YQ
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67k? vs 92k the points are worth more than the $200 extra YQ
After checking again it was $500 pp regardless even when booking TLV on the same PNR, so I booked similar option with United Miles instead for 85K pp no YQ but $550 total in fees (about $450 for the infant broken as $387 for the fare and $60 taxes)
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These are the changes that will affect you, Mr. .....
As announced by the Lufthansa Group airlines in December, the way your award miles are calculated will change with effect from 12 March 2018. From that date onwards, your miles will be allocated based on the fare – i.e. the ticket price plus any surcharges levied by the respective airline. To calculate the number of award miles, the fare will be multiplied by a factor that is dependent on your frequent flyer status and the airline operating your flight.
In the first few weeks after this change, it is possible that your award miles will still be calculated based on the current system, i.e. by flight distance and booking class. If this is the case, we will make an adjustment after the last flight in your trip to compensate for the difference between the two calculation methods.
Please note: in the future, your award and status miles will be calculated in two different ways. As a result, they will appear with different figures in your Miles & More account statement.
Is there something you are still unsure about? On miles-and-more.com we have put together lots of helpful information for you that should answer all the essential questions about this change and about the future allocation of award miles.
Kind regards,
Your Miles & More Team
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Can Miles And More be extended? or is there anything else I can do with it?
No vacation planned in the near future..
I have 94k expiring in less then a month!
Tia!
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Can Miles And More be extended? or is there anything else I can do with it?
No vacation planned in the near future..
I have 94k expiring in less then a month!
Tia!
Don't let them expire! No upcoming flights planned you can credit to m and m?
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Can Miles And More be extended? or is there anything else I can do with it?
No vacation planned in the near future..
I have 94k expiring in less then a month!
Tia!
Don't let them expire! No upcoming flights planned you can credit to m and m?
I believe they expire at the end of the quarter three years after they were acured, irrelevant of subsequent activity.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm in a similar situation.
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I believe they expire at the end of the quarter three years after they were acured, irrelevant of subsequent activity.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm in a similar situation.
I believe you are correct, unless you have M&M cc.
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I believe you are correct, unless you have M&M cc.
What about miles transferred from SPG ?
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I believe they expire at the end of the quarter three years after they were acured, irrelevant of subsequent activity.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm in a similar situation.
book a flt as far out as you can -cancel it b4 flt time --miles -will be deposited in acct and be good for 3 more months - keep doing - yes u will need to pay the fee to redeposit
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book a flt as far out as you can -cancel it b4 flt time --miles -will be deposited in acct and be good for 3 more months - keep doing - yes u will need to pay the fee to redeposit
How much is redeposit fee?
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How much is redeposit fee?
50 euro
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Where can I see in my account when my miles will expire? I have alot and can't find anywhere in the account the data, but award wallet is telling me they are expiring in 6 days
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50 euro
Per flight? Per leg? Per passenger? Per booking?
For €50 they'll redeposit the miles and refund the taxes and then my miles will expire 36 months after I redeposit?
Thanks for your help
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Per flight? Per leg? Per passenger? Per booking?
For €50 they'll redeposit the miles and refund the taxes and then my miles will expire 36 months after I redeposit?
Thanks for your help
Bump
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Bump
IIRC per PNR
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The miles are not good for another 3 years. Just another 3 or maybe 6 months
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Dan wrote on the DDMS post: All About Mileage Expiration And Transfer Options For 58 Loyalty Programs: Ultimate Points Chart, Keep Points From Expiring, And Bring Them Back To Life! (https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/mileage-expiration-guide-for-38-loyalty-programs-how-to-keep-your-points-from-expiring-and-how-to-bring-them-back-to-life-after-theyve-expired/) that "If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire."
Do you need to spend on it every month?
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Dan wrote on the DDMS post: All About Mileage Expiration And Transfer Options For 58 Loyalty Programs: Ultimate Points Chart, Keep Points From Expiring, And Bring Them Back To Life! (https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/mileage-expiration-guide-for-38-loyalty-programs-how-to-keep-your-points-from-expiring-and-how-to-bring-them-back-to-life-after-theyve-expired/) that "If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire."
Do you need to spend on it every month?
Its unclear if monthly spend is required.
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When I try to see what's available online it can't find anything at all. When calling they find LH flights for my dates.
Any ideas why?
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When I try to see what's available online it can't find anything at all. When calling they find LH flights for my dates.
Any ideas why?
you need to call
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When I try to see what's available online it can't find anything at all. When calling they find LH flights for my dates.
Any ideas why?
2 connections?
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you need to call
You mean it's a known problem? Really difficult since I don't think you can check availability on any other site.
2 connections?
No just one
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It seems like Hawaii to Asia is only 35,000 miles per way in Business.
Does anyone know if you can route through the continental U.S? Example: HNL-LAX-NRT
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The LH yq on ITA is $100 less than what they are quoting over the phone, is that a known problem or a glitch?
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The LH yq on ITA is $100 less than what they are quoting over the phone, is that a known problem or a glitch?
TLV-IAD $190 on ITA
$290 quote by phone
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TLV-IAD $190 on ITA
$290 quote by phone
it is yq + some fees
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it is yq + some fees
thanks
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Am I missing something here?
I search lh site for F tickets ewr to FRA and it shows 8 available paid. I search for award tickets on mnm site it shows not a single F ticket.
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Am I missing something here?
I search lh site for F tickets ewr to FRA and it shows 8 available paid. I search for award tickets on mnm site it shows not a single F ticket.
Lately their availability has been abysmal. Found one economy seat NYC-TLV over a 3 week period.
PUTPAC reports are they see different availability.
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Am I missing something here?
I search lh site for F tickets ewr to FRA and it shows 8 available paid. I search for award tickets on mnm site it shows not a single F ticket.
their website isn't great try calling
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Would putpac work for booking with united?
their website isn't great try calling
Lately their availability has been abysmal. Found one economy seat NYC-TLV over a 3 week period.
PUTPAC reports are they see different availability.
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Would putpac work for booking with united?
If its available yes. I had to call them last august to get me on a United flight. But lately United does show up on their site. Also, beware, they charge YQ on United too.
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If its available yes. I had to call them last august to get me on a United flight. But lately United does show up on their site. Also, beware, they charge YQ on United too.
I meant to use United miles to book on LH.
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I meant to use United miles to book on LH.
14 days out? or longer if you find availability using LM or SQ
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14 days out? or longer if you find availability using LM or SQ
my flight is 2 months out, but i was playing around and looking for next 2 weeks on UA but saw nothing.
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my flight is 2 months out, but i was playing around and looking for next 2 weeks on UA but saw nothing.
Check LM and SQ. I'm beginning to think there is an issue with LH F showing on UA.
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Check LM and SQ. I'm beginning to think there is an issue with LH F showing on UA.
thanks ill look.
If there is avaialbility there and not UA would i call UA to book or id have to use SQ or LM
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thanks ill look.
If there is avaialbility there and not UA would i call UA to book or id have to use SQ or LM
Dont know the answer to that. Probably have to call UA and see if they can see same availability.
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Is there any Miles and more partner that i can put in my Air Canada or United Booking code?
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Is there any way to avoid yq tlv-us using m&m points?
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Is there any way to avoid yq tlv-us using m&m points?
Lot polish
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Lot polish
Expanded availability using M&M?
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Expanded availability using M&M?
they are part of the LH group
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Is the last line in the wiki still valid in todays slim market?
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Is the last line in the wiki still valid in todays slim market?
As far as I know it is.
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How much is yq 1 way tlv to USA on lx/lh/Austrian in business?
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How much is yq 1 way tlv to USA on lx/lh/Austrian in business?
$400-500
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$400-500
IME its about $300
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$400-500
that is ex USA
IME its about $300
yes between 250-300
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a) What is the mileage cost TLV-BOS Economy with an Israel based account?
b) What are the chances of finding 6 seats for Jul 24-Aug 8 flexible?
I tried searching vi the M&M site and got nothing.
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a) What is the mileage cost TLV-BOS Economy with an Israel based account?
b) What are the chances of finding 6 seats for Jul 24-Aug 8 flexible?
I tried searching vi the M&M site and got nothing.
a. 60k rt for adults and 45k for children
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I'm confused. This award chart shows (https://www.miles-and-more.com/mediapool/pdf/38/media_1411457838.pdf) a RT within North America costs 30k in economy but the calculator (http://www.meilenrechner.de/spend_miles.php?language=eng) shows it as 12.5k. Can someone please clarify...
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I'm confused. This award chart shows (https://www.miles-and-more.com/mediapool/pdf/38/media_1411457838.pdf) a RT within North America costs 30k in economy but the calculator (http://www.meilenrechner.de/spend_miles.php?language=eng) shows it as 12.5k. Can someone please clarify...
Where you seeing RT for 12.5, what route?
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Where you seeing RT for 12.5, what route?
NYC-LAX
Also, is there any way to see if there is currently an expiration date tagged to my miles? Dan (https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/mileage-expiration-guide-for-38-loyalty-programs-how-to-keep-your-points-from-expiring-and-how-to-bring-them-back-to-life-after-theyve-expired/) has written that "If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire." I have a card but haven't really used it???
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NYC-LAX
Showing 30k RT here.
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Showing 30k RT here.
On the chart or the calculator?
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On the chart or the calculator?
Calculator. Although I'm fairly certain it should be 12.5k a way.
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Calculator. Although I'm fairly certain it should be 12.5k a way.
From DDMS:The Best Cards From Barclaycard (https://www.dansdeals.com/credit-cards/the-best-cards-from-barclays-bank-2/) "4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles."
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From DDMS:The Best Cards From Barclaycard (https://www.dansdeals.com/credit-cards/the-best-cards-from-barclays-bank-2/) "4 one-way coach tickets:
A one-way coach ticket within the US on United will run 12,000 miles."
Exactly, so it's 12k a flight. Which means for 50k you get 4.
Side note that post also has this:
USAirways has a very generous award chart:
-Domestic awards on USAirways flights are just 20,000 miles round-trip for cardholders thanks to the 5,000 mile discount.
-Off-peak coach awards to the Caribbean for cardholders are just 20,000 miles and to Europe or South America are just 30,000 miles round-trip if you fly on USAirways. Off peak First........
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You guys are bringing proof from a 4 year old post? ::)
It's 12.5k each way.
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You guys are bringing proof from a 4 year old post? ::)
It's 12.5k each way.
Hence this:
Side note that post also has this:USAirways has a very generous award chart:
-Domestic awards on USAirways flights are just 20,000 miles round-trip for cardholders thanks to the 5,000 mile discount.
-Off-peak coach awards to the Caribbean for cardholders are just 20,000 miles and to Europe or South America are just 30,000 miles round-trip if you fly on USAirways. Off peak First........
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Showing 30k RT here.
Calculator. Although I'm fairly certain it should be 12.5k a way.
Exactly, so it's 12k a flight. Which means for 50k you get 4.
Side note that post also has this:
12 + 12 = 24 not 30. Am I missing something?
Side note that post also has this:
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USAirways has a very generous award chart:
-Domestic awards on USAirways flights are just 20,000 miles round-trip for cardholders thanks to the 5,000 mile discount.
-Off-peak coach awards to the Caribbean for cardholders are just 20,000 miles and to Europe or South America are just 30,000 miles round-trip if you fly on USAirways. Off peak First........
This is in regard to USAirways which doesn't exist anymore. I don't understand the relevance.
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12 + 12 = 24 not 30. Am I missing something?
This is in regard to USAirways which doesn't exist anymore. I don't understand the relevance.
I believe the calculator was incorrect.
My point of the US Airways thing was to show that the post is quite outdated.
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Is there a decent way to search for availability?
Looking on Aeroplan, I see biz open from LHR-FRA-JFK on LH. Aeroplan show $649CAN in fees. What does LH charge in fees?
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Is there a decent way to search for availability?
Looking on Aeroplan, I see biz open from LHR-FRA-JFK on LH. Aeroplan show $649CAN in fees. What does LH charge in fees?
You know they show a breakdown of tbe fees.
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You know they show a breakdown of tbe fees.
Thanks.
You have to click on the "taxes, fees, and surcharged" for it to open; I didn't notice that.
Is United.com the best way to search? Is there way to search on ITA but limit to a certain class of seats?
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Anyone know if LOT typically releases economy or business awards for M&M with 1-2 weeks of flight?
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Help! I have 25k m&m points expiring today. I don’t have specific future travel plans. Any advice?
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Help! I have 25k m&m points expiring today. I don’t have specific future travel plans. Any advice?
Book a flight as far out as you can -- cancel later and redeposit miles
will the cost to cancel be more than the value of the miles????-- you can only decide-not sure but I believe after you cancel the miles will be good for another 3 months or so
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Book a flight as far out as you can -- cancel later and redeposit miles
will the cost to cancel be more than the value of the miles????-- you can only decide-not sure but I believe after you cancel the miles will be good for another 3 months or so
+1 This is the only option if you think the miles are worth more to you than the cancellation fee.
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+1 This is the only option if you think the miles are worth more to you than the cancellation fee.
Thanks, did it. I think 50€ Are worth it for a domestic RT on United.
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Thanks, did it. I think 50€ Are worth it for a domestic RT on United.
Definitely.
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is it common the phone cs can't find availability i see on their own website?
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Book a flight as far out as you can -- cancel later and redeposit miles
will the cost to cancel be more than the value of the miles????-- you can only decide-not sure but I believe after you cancel the miles will be good for another 3 months or so
How long are the miles valid for once you cancel the ticket and get the miles re-dopsited?
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How long are the miles valid for once you cancel the ticket and get the miles re-dopsited?
From what I was told they will expire at the end of the quarter
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you can re-do- a new reservation as far out as you find can right b4 they expire to re-extend
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Does anyone know if M&M will combine reservations?
I want to book NYC-WAW and WAW-TLV on the website in 2 diff classes, will they let me combine them on the same PNR after I book? for some reason trying to book it together makes it more expensive than booking separately
Also, if I book 1 passenger in J and one in PE, can I combine them later on the same PNR?
For some reason, I am having trouble with the phone agents getting this done, it would be much easier to do online and then combine later
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Does anyone know if M&M will combine reservations?
I want to book NYC-WAW and WAW-TLV on the website in 2 diff classes, will they let me combine them on the same PNR after I book?
Also, if I book 1 passenger in J and one in PE, can I combine them later on the same PNR?
For some reason, I am having trouble with the phone agents getting this done, it would be much easier to do online and then combine later
This myth of combining PNRs is just that, a myth. It cannot be done. Ever.
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This myth of combining PNRs is just that, a myth. It cannot be done. Ever.
Got it. they want extra 20K for booking it together. what issues can stem from booking each leg separately? I am assuming at least the bags can be sent all the way?
Also, anyone knows if cancellation/ change is per person or per booking?
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This myth of combining PNRs is just that, a myth. It cannot be done. Ever.
Can be linked, not combined. (Not talking specifically in this case)
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So I just booked 3 people from NYC- to TLV on 4 different PNR's... If I "link" them, will make it any less messy?
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So I just booked 3 people from NYC- to TLV on 4 different PNR's... If I "link" them, will make it any less messy?
but you will have to recheck your bags
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but you will have to recheck your bags
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but you will have to recheck your bags
I think bc same airline won't be an issue at all
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I just came back business class with LF and did not get my kosher meals they told me they will send me a email I never got one where should I contact them to complain ?
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Just realized that miles and more has completely redesigned their website
Even more what I just realize that they now allow to upgrade on partner operated flights including UA
For example farm New York City to Tel Aviv you need just 45K miles to upgrade from Economy to Business That's more than the amount on United but you don't have to pay $600 with that amount of miles
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Just realized that miles and more has completely redesigned their website
Even more what I just realize that they now allow to upgrade on partner operated flights including UA
For example farm New York City to Tel Aviv you need just 45K miles to upgrade from Economy to Business That's more than the amount on United but you don't have to pay $600 with that amount of miles
The taxes were insane.
What's the pricing for an economy tix and taxes? Vs $500-$600 on taxes aside for the award ticket.
Don't have any miles in account now, otherwise would check on my own.
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Details?
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Are we forwarding from WhatsApp with no context now?
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Details?
Are we forwarding from WhatsApp with no context now?
Husband and wife booked from two different third party accounts.
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Husband and wife booked from two different third party accounts.
And this happened in what year?
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And this happened in what year?
Booked 2 weeks ago, got the letter last week.
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i was searching waw-jfk yesterday on LOT and the taxes and fees were for a one way premium cabin ticket $84. today its 427.04 PLN which becomes $111 when converted.
is it possible they raised pricing on these fees over night?
also yesterday it was showing $ and today PLN. i tried on mobile and desktop.
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All transfers to M&M are now suspended.
https://onemileatatime.com/lufthansa-points-transfers-suspended/
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This might be a dumb question but it intrigued me.
I'm looking for a flight with SN on UA website and Expert Flyer and see 0 seats for X & I. When I go on M&M I see availability on X. Do they have 2 different X class?
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This might be a dumb question but it intrigued me.
I'm looking for a flight with SN on UA website and Expert Flyer and see 0 seats for X & I. When I go on M&M I see availability on X. Do they have 2 different X class?
Yes, M&M has expanded availability for their own airlines.
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How they differentiate between them?
Isn't this class suppose to go to the inventory if available, and then be seen by any system that has access?
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How they differentiate between them?
Isn't this class suppose to go to the inventory if available, and then be seen by any system that has access?
Not sure if it works with different classes, maybe in this case it's not showing for another reason (phantom?) but generally they'll have more availability.
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DP: I called the American call center to book 2 divorced segments, in the beginning the agent didn't see the flights but when she put in the segments separately she was able to book it as one award.
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DP: I called the American call center to book 2 divorced segments, in the beginning the agent didn't see the flights but when she put in the segments separately she was able to book it as one award.
Nice, I guess AA didn't figure out how to restrict divorces as of today.
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Nice, I guess AA didn't figure out how to restrict divorces as of today.
This is for M&M, I called the M&M american call center, nothing to do with AA.
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i was told they sometimes have availability online and dont have on the phone then they can flip flop for the same flight. any news on when they are going to dynamic pricing?
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Any way to extend expiration on miles?
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Any way to extend expiration on miles?
My miles show that they are expiring in just few days on 12/31 even though I have the Barclay's M&M card...?
Dan wrote in this post that "If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire" (https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/mileage-expiration-guide-for-38-loyalty-programs-how-to-keep-your-points-from-expiring-and-how-to-bring-them-back-to-life-after-theyve-expired/). Does that mean that I need to have used it every month? or any purchase should have extended the miles?
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Every month.
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Every month.
Is there anything I can do at this point?
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What happens if I book flight for far out and then cancel it after the expected expiration date?
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How much are 60000 points worth?
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How much are 60000 points worth?
RT Y to Europe
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RT Y to Europe
How much is cash value?
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How much is cash value?
You can try asking in https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=60515.2655
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Best way to off load around 12,000 Lufthansa Miles ( besides for US domestic flight) ?
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devaluation?
Goodbye Fly Smart. Hello improved Early Bird award
Early Bird is now bookable at least 30 days before departure on continental routes
Learn more
Dear ****
There must be places you’ve yet to see on your travel wish list. Thanks to our great award flight deals, we can take you to a multitude of destinations from as little as 17,000 miles. Even though we’ll no longer be offering Fly Smart flight awards with Austrian Airlines, Lufthansa and SWISS after June 2020, we’ll happily carry on sending you off on your travels at short notice: you can now book Early Bird flight awards for destinations within Europe at least 30 days instead of 90 days before you travel.1 And there’s more to discover with Early Bird on intercontinental flights too: with 16 additional services, such as from Munich to Miami and back for 40,000 award miles instead of 60,000 award miles, we are expanding our network to 122 routes.
We wish you a good flight and an exciting trip.
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I had 50k expire because I was under the impression that my Barclays Lufthansa credit card prevents expiration. I messaged M&M a few times and included the attached screenshot which says that there is no expiration with the card. I later learned that it only prevents expiration if used regularly. They are not being flexible about reinstating my miles. Any suggestion? Is there a way to file a complaint with the DoT? or BBB?
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I had 50k expire because I was under the impression that my Barclays Lufthansa credit card prevents expiration. I messaged M&M a few times and included the attached screenshot which says that there is no expiration with the card. I later learned that it only prevents expiration if used regularly. They are not being flexible about reinstating my miles. Any suggestion? Is there a way to file a complaint with the DoT? or BBB?
Miles & More finally credited my account. I don't know if it was a result of my continued emails or getting BBB involved. Either way, it is worth knowing that it can be done.