Post by: Dan on November 25, 2014, 10:37:54 AM
Post by: Marco Polo on November 25, 2014, 10:39:26 AM
Add them to the Wiki :)Fist start a wiki, then add :)
Post by: bubble347 on November 25, 2014, 10:45:27 AM
It would be cool if someone can put together a wiki of the coolest fifth freedom routes out there perhaps sorted by nicest cabins/shortest/cheapest routes. A nice example would be Manchester to Munich on SQ's 777.Thanks Dan
Post by: Hershelsdeals on November 25, 2014, 10:48:13 AM
Post by: chucksterace on November 25, 2014, 10:57:32 AM
Post by: Dr Moose on December 28, 2014, 01:19:51 AM
Post by: JoeCha on February 02, 2015, 01:57:35 AM
Post by: smart brit on February 02, 2015, 03:01:46 AM
Sorry Can't edit the wiki from taptalk
Post by: smart brit on February 02, 2015, 03:03:33 AM
Wiki says SQ has LAX-FRA. Is this true?It's a mistake it should be JFK FRA.
Another interesting one is Korean air
Vie ZRH
Post by: smart brit on February 02, 2015, 03:09:34 AM
Kuala Lumpur to phuket
BUD to Zagreb
Post by: JoeCha on February 02, 2015, 09:08:15 AM
Post by: JoeCha on February 02, 2015, 09:14:36 AM
Qatar airwaysDoesn't show up on ITA.
Kuala Lumpur to phuket
Post by: @Yehuda on February 02, 2015, 09:14:48 AM
Post by: JoeCha on February 02, 2015, 09:17:37 AM
Post by: @Yehuda on February 02, 2015, 09:19:28 AM
Post by: chff on February 02, 2015, 09:19:28 AM
Added a lot of BAThe south Africa are not 5th Freedom, as they are a different airline under the BA livery
Post by: JoeCha on February 02, 2015, 09:21:26 AM
Post by: chff on February 02, 2015, 09:23:23 AM
QF is not "5th freedom", same as UA SYD-MEL
9W doesn't fly out of JFK anymore
Post by: jaywhy on February 02, 2015, 10:35:24 AM
So what's so special?They're cool :)
Post by: Marco Polo on February 02, 2015, 10:53:03 AM
So what's so special?Potential to fly an airline not between it's home city.
Post by: @Yehuda on February 02, 2015, 11:05:02 AM
Potential to fly an airline not between it's home city.
They're cool :)Just for kicks? Just to say you did it?
#toeachtheirown
Post by: Something Fishy on February 02, 2015, 11:19:23 AM
Just for kicks? Just to say you did it?
#toeachtheirown
The ability to try out different things that may otherwise not be possible, such as flying in a suite without going halfway around the world.
Post by: miles lover on February 02, 2015, 11:23:38 AM
Just for kicks? Just to say you did it?That too. But it really comes into play when there is a luxurious airline flying on a route that otherwise you wouldn't be able to get. Say jfk to Vancouver either you can spend the same many points on some crap american airline or u can get pajamas with cx
#toeachtheirown
Post by: elya on February 02, 2015, 11:46:38 AM
That too. But it really comes into play when there is a luxurious airline flying on a route that otherwise you wouldn't be able to get. Say jfk to Vancouver either you can spend the same many points on some crap american airline or u can get pajamas with cxI have a few extra lh f pjs if your really desperate.
Post by: JoeCha on February 02, 2015, 12:57:03 PM
Just for kicks? Just to say you did it?Since Dubai changed policies allowing to carry rocket propelled grenades in the airport, some people are afraid to fly into DXB.
#toeachtheirown
But they can still try EK's on board shower by flying HKG-BKK on the A380.
Post by: JoeCha on February 02, 2015, 12:58:20 PM
I have a few extra lh f pjs if your really desperate.Doesn't come close to CX's PJs.
Post by: shimino1 on February 02, 2015, 02:33:08 PM
I have a few extra lh f pjs if your really desperate.Ill gladly take them.
Post by: jaywhy on February 02, 2015, 03:10:17 PM
Doesn't come close to CX's PJs.My favorite. They feel like silk.
Post by: JoeCha on February 02, 2015, 03:12:56 PM
My favorite. They feel like silk.Yep, I use them @ home.
Post by: SearchGuy on February 02, 2015, 03:36:15 PM
Post by: ilherman on February 23, 2015, 12:12:52 AM
Post by: Ez on February 23, 2015, 12:33:20 AM
Where can I check for QF availability JFK-LAX? Will it show up as available if I only search JFK-LAX on BA if it is available?If you can't book that flight, how can BA show it as available?
Post by: ilherman on February 23, 2015, 12:56:36 AM
If you can't book that flight, how can BA show it as available?I guess with some hacking it should be bookable. My question is how can I see availability? Is availability as brutal as LAX-MLE?
Post by: Ez on February 23, 2015, 01:10:12 AM
I guess with some hacking it should be bookable. My question is how can I see availability? Is availability as brutal as LAX-MLE?My guess would be that more seats are available, as many people only board at LAX, but I doubt it has different availability then it's following flight LAX-MEL, CMIIW.
Also FYI, from what I know, it's a aircraft change to a smaller plane.
Post by: mmm740 on February 23, 2015, 05:13:54 AM
Where can I check for QF availability JFK-LAX? Will it show up as available if I only search JFK-LAX on BA if it is available?Expertflyer
Post by: mmm740 on February 23, 2015, 05:24:21 AM
My guess would be that more seats are available, as many people only board at LAX, but I doubt it has different availability then it's following flight LAX-MEL, CMIIW.Availability is a bit better.
Also FYI, from what I know, it's a aircraft change to a smaller plane.
They fly the 747 without F, I believe its the plane that comes from BNE.
Post by: damaxer91 on February 23, 2015, 07:06:43 AM
I guess with some hacking it should be bookable. My question is how can I see availability? Is availability as brutal as LAX-MLE?
Pretty sure that even if you book it you wont be able to book without evidence of either having arrived from Oz on a QF flight or are departing on one. A refundable ticket might do the job
Post by: SearchGuy on February 23, 2015, 09:15:34 AM
My guess would be that more seats are available, as many people only board at LAX, but I doubt it has different availability then it's following flight LAX-MEL, CMIIW.-.5 it's not a klal, this plane brings people to LAX but these people continue to three different Australian airports,so in most cases these flights are packed, I've heard several times that it's was almost empty, but whenever I flew there was barely any empty seats
Also FYI, from what I know, it's a aircraft change to a smaller plane.
Post by: nobiggy on February 23, 2015, 09:18:44 AM
-.5 it's not a klal, this plane brings people to LAX but these people continue to three different Australian airports,so in most cases these flights are packed, I've heard several times that it's was almost empty, but whenever I flew there was barely any empty seatsI flew it before and got a full row of 4 seats to myself!(I wasn't the only one with a full row to myself.)
Post by: SearchGuy on February 23, 2015, 09:22:26 AM
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 23, 2015, 10:01:22 AM
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 23, 2015, 10:06:12 AM
They offer Premium Economy on that flight IIRC.Only?
Post by: nobiggy on February 23, 2015, 10:07:17 AM
Only?I am not sure I understood your question. They have 4 classes on the plane that goes LHR-DXB.
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 23, 2015, 10:08:16 AM
I am not sure I understood your question. They have 4 classes on the plane that goes LHR-DXB.I asked if it's possible to book first class suites
Post by: nobiggy on February 23, 2015, 10:10:23 AM
I asked if it's possible to book first class suitesWhy not? I am booked on a flight the opposite way DXB-LHR in 2 months time.
It's very hard to find the availability.
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 23, 2015, 10:11:48 AM
Why not? I am booked on a flight the opposite way DXB-LHR in 2 months time.Qantas in F?
It's very hard to find the availability.
How didyou book and with which points?
Post by: nobiggy on February 23, 2015, 10:15:41 AM
Qantas in F?MEL-DXB-LHR 80k AA + $130
How didyou book and with which points?
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 23, 2015, 10:17:01 AM
MEL-DXB-LHR 80k AA + $130
Post by: nobiggy on February 23, 2015, 10:19:07 AM
you're looking for a ticket now?
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 23, 2015, 10:20:15 AM
you're looking for a ticket now?No I'm not at a computer at the moment , I'm just planning my summer vacation while I Drive to work
Post by: nobiggy on February 23, 2015, 10:22:05 AM
No I'm not at a computer at the moment , I'm just planning my summer vacation while I Drive to work:) :)
Post by: ad120 on March 02, 2015, 12:43:42 AM
Has anyone been successful booking with Avios?
Additionally, would I refer to AA award chart for availability?
Post by: jaywhy on March 02, 2015, 12:51:58 AM
Any update on TAM JFK-YYZ?Yes, people have booked it.
Has anyone been successful booking with Avios?
Additionally, would I refer to AA award chart for availability?
How would a chart tell you availability ???
Post by: ad120 on March 02, 2015, 01:07:46 AM
How would a chart tell you availability ???please rephrase your question.
Post by: Ergel on March 02, 2015, 01:09:06 AM
Post by: ilherman on March 02, 2015, 01:10:44 AM
Post by: ad120 on March 02, 2015, 01:11:38 AM
LOLחחחחח.....
Post by: SearchGuy on March 03, 2015, 01:29:01 PM
Post by: smart brit on March 13, 2015, 03:02:16 AM
Barcelona to Sao Paulo
And Sao Paulo to bcn with no YQ
Post by: AJK on March 13, 2015, 01:30:02 PM
Is it difficult or even possible to book LHR to DXB with Qantas in R?
Availability is actually pretty decent. It's better in reverse though.
Post by: Malachi on March 13, 2015, 06:35:49 PM
Availability is actually pretty decent. It's better in reverse though.Holy cow your next post will be 20,000.
Post by: TimT on March 13, 2015, 06:40:36 PM
Holy cow your next post will be 20,000.http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=25604.msg1089525#msg1089525
Post by: moish on May 28, 2015, 04:53:24 PM
Post by: JoeCha on May 28, 2015, 05:24:00 PM
BA MCT-AUHCheck again, it's already listed in the wiki.
Post by: moish on May 29, 2015, 10:54:59 AM
Check again, it's already listed in the wiki.truth
Post by: ad120 on July 04, 2015, 11:48:30 PM
Post by: ilherman on July 04, 2015, 11:51:26 PM
Post by: Alexsei on July 06, 2015, 03:44:24 PM
You can't.And it is still considered a 5th freedom route?
Post by: AJK on July 06, 2015, 04:18:15 PM
And it is still considered a 5th freedom route?
No.
Post by: chff on July 06, 2015, 04:56:58 PM
And it is still considered a 5th freedom route?Never was
Post by: Buruch on July 07, 2015, 04:32:56 AM
Post by: chff on July 07, 2015, 08:02:27 AM
And it is still considered a 5th freedom route?
No.
Never was
And wouldn't be 5th even if it worked.The QF flight is an "8th Freedom" not a 5th
Post by: D93 on July 12, 2015, 03:04:32 PM
Post by: efflpetzel on July 13, 2015, 12:16:03 PM
Post by: Chapshnell on July 13, 2015, 12:23:42 PM
Post by: chff on July 13, 2015, 12:50:07 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comair_(South_Africa) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comair_(South_Africa))
Post by: yuds70 on July 13, 2015, 02:55:38 PM
Post by: D93 on July 25, 2015, 04:34:30 PM
Post by: D93 on September 09, 2015, 01:14:55 PM
Post by: Yaalili on September 09, 2015, 01:18:16 PM
LO 787 BAD-MIA
Do you mean MAD for UX?
Post by: D93 on September 09, 2015, 01:21:15 PM
Do you mean MAD for UX?
Yes, and I just realized it's "UX operated by LO", is this considered a 5th Freedom flight because it's on LO metal?
Post by: chff on September 09, 2015, 02:00:45 PM
Yes, and I just realized it's "UX operated by LO", is this considered a 5th Freedom flight because it's on LO metal?No, LO is the "driver", they don't sell the flight
Post by: Yaalili on September 09, 2015, 02:13:56 PM
Yes, and I just realized it's "UX operated by LO", is this considered a 5th Freedom flight because it's on LO metal?
Not fifth freedom. Same as etihad using jet airways for lots of their flights.
Post by: chff on September 09, 2015, 02:58:50 PM
Post by: Buruch on September 10, 2015, 05:15:09 AM
@Buruch - BA out of JNB are not 5th freedom
I said they were? I only edited the wiki to put in a couple (not all existing) BA Caribbean routes. I also confirmed with BA that codeshare AA flights on Seaborne are not eligible for Avios redemption :( That puts SJU-DOM off the table, and perhaps others. But you can still do MIA-PLS-ANU-SKB-MIA for 25k off peak plus about 75-100 in taxes. Those flights would cost at least 1,200 normally.
Post by: hvaces42 on September 17, 2015, 01:54:39 PM
Post by: Chapshnell on September 17, 2015, 03:13:33 PM
Does anyone know if TK 6387 Kiev to Budapest a 5th freedom flight. And is it possible to book through United.
sample date? I want to look at it.. dont see it for most days in a brief search
Post by: chff on September 17, 2015, 08:11:31 PM
Does anyone know if TK 6387 Kiev to Budapest a 5th freedom flight. And is it possible to book through United.Not sure if I should laugh or cry...
Its a valid 5th freedom flight...... If you fly package class
And they don't accept tickets on this route, only way-bills
Post by: hvaces42 on September 17, 2015, 09:14:31 PM
Not sure if I should laugh or cry...::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Its a valid 5th freedom flight...... If you fly package class
And they don't accept tickets on this route, only way-bills
Post by: SearchGuy on September 17, 2015, 11:17:45 PM
Post by: 1050BU on September 17, 2015, 11:19:52 PM
Is it possible to book SNN-JFK on the BA J only configuration A-318?
Dont believe so.
Post by: keepsmiling123 on September 22, 2015, 12:50:27 AM
Post by: lubaby on September 22, 2015, 01:13:29 AM
Ive been searching tons of dates for the Cathay Pacific JFK-YVR using Alaskan but have had no success online finding it. Do i need to call to book it or is it easier to find using AA miles? (prefer to use Alaskan miles tho)For CX flights, you need to search through BA, then call AS to book.
Post by: mendygold92 on October 29, 2015, 04:52:33 PM
Post by: mendygold92 on October 29, 2015, 04:55:01 PM
On line there's none available JFK - YYZ economy on Tam airlines, is there a chance they'll have any available if I call in?Sorry wrong thread..
Post by: D93 on October 29, 2015, 05:34:38 PM
Sorry wrong thread..There's a "delete" option....
Post by: D93 on November 01, 2015, 03:26:07 PM
Post by: ilherman on November 08, 2015, 12:20:35 AM
Post by: JoeCha on November 08, 2015, 11:42:19 AM
Post by: Emkay on November 08, 2015, 12:12:13 PM
Just saw PK MAN-JFK. Anyone did that? Any nice premium cabins?They used to have another route out of Barcelona that I was very close to booking. Didn't seem to be anything special but was ridiculously cheap
Post by: SearchGuy on November 08, 2015, 02:34:33 PM
They used to have another route out of Barcelona that I was very close to booking. Didn't seem to be anything special but was ridiculously cheap
Just saw PK MAN-JFK. Anyone did that? Any nice premium cabins?i see that AA is $575 on MAN-JFK (01/14-01/21), not sure if that's very cheap...
Post by: JoeCha on November 08, 2015, 05:41:21 PM
Post by: D93 on January 07, 2016, 05:41:47 AM
Is this legally bookable (it's showing on BA.com, but not letting me book online)?
Post by: benjie1305 on January 07, 2016, 07:55:53 AM
CX103 CNS-BNE
Is this legally bookable (it's showing on BA.com, but not letting me book online)?
Not legal due to No cabotage authorization.
Post by: mmm740 on January 11, 2016, 11:02:30 PM
CI 65-66 BKK-AMS.
Post by: iAm on January 12, 2016, 09:58:11 AM
Post by: Something Fishy on February 09, 2016, 01:14:59 PM
Theoretically this should be bookable for 35/60k SQ (UA can't book to HAV).
Cuban visa is included in the price and gets picked up at the gate.
Added to wiki.
Post by: Chapshnell on February 09, 2016, 01:26:22 PM
Air China flies a 5th freedom route YUL-HAV and back (feeds from PEK). I checked some random dates and found fares for ~#350 in Y and ~$850 in lie-flat J (773).
Theoretically this should be bookable for 35/70k SQ (UA can't book to HAV).
Cuban visa is included in the price and gets picked up at the gate.
Added to wiki.
dont see this flight, when will they start?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 09, 2016, 01:42:02 PM
dont see this flight, when will they start?
It's been ongoing for a while apparently. I was just able to create a dummy booking for today.
ETA:
(https://i.gyazo.com/19de4ff4f1580e667f203b9caf773c35.png)
Post by: shoobi on February 09, 2016, 01:53:42 PM
Post by: benjie1305 on February 09, 2016, 01:56:53 PM
Cool. If you are bored you can reorder the wiki in some kind of order, not just random airlines. Like alphabetical? By alliance?
Go right ahead. Wouldn't mind!
Post by: shoobi on February 09, 2016, 01:58:17 PM
Go right ahead. Wouldn't mind!
Don't know HTML well enough to do it without major timewaste
Post by: Something Fishy on February 09, 2016, 02:07:14 PM
Don't know HTML well enough to do it without major timewaste
No need to know HTML, it's just copy and paste. Took me under two minutes.
Post by: EJB on February 09, 2016, 02:18:00 PM
Air China flies a 5th freedom route YUL-HAV and back (feeds from PEK). I checked some random dates and found fares for ~#350 in Y and ~$850 in lie-flat J (773).
Theoretically this should be bookable for 35/70k SQ (UA can't book to HAV).
Cuban visa is included in the price and gets picked up at the gate.
Added to wiki.
35/60, no?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 09, 2016, 02:19:43 PM
35/60, no?
Yes, correct. Updated.
Thanks.
Post by: G11600 on February 09, 2016, 02:41:41 PM
dont see this flight, when will they start?
There's a good review of the flight here
http://gossipmiles.com/2016/01/23/air-china-yul-hav-j/
Post by: Joe4007 on February 22, 2016, 06:32:03 PM
EZE-SCL
Just added this to the wiki.
Looks like EZE is the 5th Freedom capital.
Post by: high end hobo on February 22, 2016, 08:31:09 PM
also GRU-BCN
also qatar flies more intra europe, good use of avios
also CX DXB-BAH which i've flown myself 9k avios in J ;)
Post by: lubaby on February 22, 2016, 08:38:09 PM
Doesn't SQ fly to ICN from either LAX or SFO?SQ flies from SFO to HKG and ICN and from LAX to NRT.
also GRU-BCN
also qatar flies more intra europe, good use of avios
also CX DXB-BAH which i've flown myself 9k avios in J ;)
Post by: high end hobo on February 22, 2016, 09:08:09 PM
SQ flies from SFO to HKG and ICN and from LAX to NRT.right, so why isn't ICN in the wiki?
Post by: high end hobo on February 22, 2016, 09:09:20 PM
Post by: YOSEF on February 22, 2016, 09:20:36 PM
Post by: YOSEF on February 22, 2016, 09:30:27 PM
CI SYD-AKL
Post by: high end hobo on February 22, 2016, 10:20:26 PM
EK MEL-AKL
CI SYD-AKL
the EK flight is already in the wiki
Post by: YOSEF on February 22, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
Post by: high end hobo on February 22, 2016, 11:33:51 PM
No it isn't.
I stand corrected, I was thinking SYD
Post by: ad120 on February 22, 2016, 11:41:33 PM
Post by: @Yehuda on May 22, 2016, 06:38:48 AM
Post by: Yaalili on May 22, 2016, 07:27:41 AM
Looks like DL has a flight NRT-BKK.
DL has a hub at NRT.
Post by: @Yehuda on May 22, 2016, 07:28:32 AM
DL has a hub at NRT.Oh. :-[
Post by: SearchGuy on May 22, 2016, 10:34:09 AM
Kuwait can go off the wiki
Post by: chff on May 22, 2016, 11:10:15 AM
Philippine Airlines JFK-YVRKuwait still retains 5th Freedom rights, they just don't exercise it
Kuwait can go off the wiki
Post by: buenos naches on May 24, 2016, 06:34:11 PM
Post by: AJK on May 24, 2016, 07:31:46 PM
Kuwait still retains 5th Freedom rights, they just don't exercise it
Incorrect.
Post by: high end hobo on May 24, 2016, 09:09:36 PM
Interesting because they used to codeshare on the Kuwait flight
Post by: ad120 on May 25, 2016, 01:15:22 AM
Air india is starting LHR-EWR.ought to be an adventure.
Interesting because they used to codeshare on the Kuwait flight
Post by: Freddie on October 31, 2016, 12:27:51 AM
Anyway, I have never flown SQ but have wanted to and I have to actually fly that route IAH-MAN.
What's the best way to book an award for that flight?
Post by: lubaby on October 31, 2016, 12:32:11 AM
I just discovered an IAH-MAN on SQ. I don't see it on the wiki.Starting today, they switched the IAH-DME-SIN to IAH-MAN-SIN instead (Wiki updated).
Anyway, I have never flown SQ but have wanted to and I have to actually fly that route IAH-MAN.
What's the best way to book an award for that flight?
IINM the only way to book SQ premium cabins is with their own miles.
Post by: Freddie on October 31, 2016, 12:39:06 AM
Starting today, they switched the IAH-DME-SIN to IAH-MAN-SIN instead (Wiki updated).
IINM the only way to book SQ premium cabins is with their own miles.
Wow, that's so funny that they switched it today. I just searched that route for the first time today!
Post by: Emkay on October 31, 2016, 12:42:21 AM
I just discovered an IAH-MAN on SQ. I don't see it on the wiki.Not an A380 though if you wanted that.
Anyway, I have never flown SQ but have wanted to and I have to actually fly that route IAH-MAN.
What's the best way to book an award for that flight?
Post by: Freddie on October 31, 2016, 12:44:00 AM
Not an A380 though if you wanted that.
Right it's a 777.
Honestly, I know this is DDF heresy but I don't know the difference!
Post by: Emkay on October 31, 2016, 12:47:43 AM
Right it's a 777.One has a double bed in F/Suites.
Honestly, I know this is DDF heresy but I don't know the difference!
Post by: mmgfarb on October 31, 2016, 12:52:45 AM
One has a double bed in F/Suites.The A380 has the double bed correct? Besides for that, is there any advantage?
Post by: lubaby on October 31, 2016, 08:15:17 AM
Wow, that's so funny that they switched it today. I just searched that route for the first time today!Was announced back in July, yesterday was the first scheduled flight.
Post by: high end hobo on November 01, 2016, 12:56:10 PM
IINM the only way to book SQ premium cabins is with their own miles.Depends on route
The A380 has the double bed correct? Besides for that, is there any advantage?Double bed is only if its available.
Put simply the 388 has suites with walls and the 77W has a very good first class
Post by: ad120 on November 02, 2016, 12:57:23 AM
I just discovered an IAH-MAN on SQ. I don't see it on the wiki.Is the YQ high on this one?
Anyway, I have never flown SQ but have wanted to and I have to actually fly that route IAH-MAN.
What's the best way to book an award for that flight?
Post by: Freddie on November 02, 2016, 01:32:09 AM
Is the YQ high on this one?
No clue. I saw it on google flights. I didn't see the price structure.
Post by: rileywiles23 on November 02, 2016, 02:40:49 PM
Is the YQ high on this one?About $150 OW and $300 RT.
Post by: SearchGuy on February 13, 2017, 05:54:37 PM
Edit: it's false
Post by: lubaby on February 13, 2017, 06:05:41 PM
Ethiopian announced TLV-ThailandStarting when? Any more info?
Post by: SearchGuy on February 13, 2017, 06:09:08 PM
Starting when? Any more info?Saw it here http://m.ynet.co.il/Articles/4921866
Post by: lubaby on February 13, 2017, 06:19:30 PM
Saw it here http://m.ynet.co.il/Articles/4921866Article seems to just mention an ongoing sale. Am I missing something?
Post by: SearchGuy on February 13, 2017, 06:25:05 PM
Article seems to just mention an ongoing sale. Am I missing something?Seems like you are right, funny how they put it between 2 new flights
Post by: ExGingi on February 13, 2017, 07:06:46 PM
Ethiopian announced TLV-ThailandThat would be big news. Direct Star Alliance flights TLV-Far East!
Post by: SearchGuy on February 13, 2017, 07:07:20 PM
That would be big news. Direct Star Alliance flights TLV-Far East!I made a mistake, it's not true
Post by: ExGingi on February 13, 2017, 07:08:47 PM
I made a mistake, it's not trueI guess it sounded too good to be true. Come to think about it, it would be an extremely unlikely route.
Post by: lubaby on February 14, 2017, 11:21:06 AM
I guess it sounded too good to be true. Come to think about it, it would be an extremely unlikely route.Would be nice if they would work on updating their current schedules to not require a 10+ hour layover between TLV-BKK (and vice versa).
Post by: ExGingi on February 14, 2017, 11:31:20 AM
Would be nice if they would work on updating their current schedules to not require a 10+ hour layover between TLV-BKK (and vice versa).Would also be nice if aireuropa would adjust their TLV schedule to be able to connect to and from flights to/from US. It could become a decent widebody connection to TLV.
Post by: Freddie on February 14, 2017, 11:38:44 AM
Hey, guys! Did you hear about HPN-SIN on QF in an A380?
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2017, 11:40:42 AM
Let's have a thread where we make up unlikely 5th freedom routes and then post the next day that we were kidding. I'll start.CLE-YVR, CX 77W
Hey, guys! Did you hear about HPN-SIN on QF in an A380?
Post by: ExGingi on February 14, 2017, 12:03:06 PM
Let's have a thread where we make up unlikely 5th freedom routes and then post the next day that we were kidding. I'll start.How about adding to the Wiki airports that are least likely to get 5th Freedom flights, so people can avoid mistakes. Start the list with the following four:
Hey, guys! Did you hear about HPN-SIN on QF in an A380?
TLV
HPN
CLE
PIT
Post by: SearchGuy on April 15, 2017, 10:04:15 AM
Post by: ad120 on June 07, 2017, 10:24:09 AM
What is my best redemption option flying RT on CX?
What would be my best redemption option flying JFK-YVR on PR and then YVR-JFK on CX?
Post by: lubaby on June 07, 2017, 10:30:32 AM
I have UR and MR and trying to get to YVR in J.MR > CX is 50k RT or 30k OW on CX.
What is my best redemption option flying RT on CX?
What would be my best redemption option flying JFK-YVR on PR and then YVR-JFK on CX?
MR > NH is 55k RT on PR (can't book NH partners as OW).
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2017, 10:31:06 AM
I have UR and MR and trying to get to YVR in J.http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/85765
What is my best redemption option flying RT on CX?
What would be my best redemption option flying JFK-YVR on PR and then YVR-JFK on CX?
Post by: ad120 on June 07, 2017, 10:37:14 AM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/85765Thanks Dan.
That post lists JFK-YVR in J for 25K BA. It is now 37.5K BA as per phone rep.
Can you offer any input on redeeming flights on PR?
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2017, 10:40:32 AM
That post lists JFK-YVR in J for 25K BA.-1.
Can you offer any input on redeeming flights on PR?Use Hybrid points.
Post by: ad120 on June 07, 2017, 10:44:41 AM
Use Hybrid points.that would be 66K as the ticket is pricing at $1,000
IIRC they partner with EK and ANA however I do not have account with EK and cant check the price/availability.
ETA: 62.5K EK on PR from JFK to YVR.
Post by: ad120 on June 07, 2017, 10:46:57 AM
-1.my bad. was looking in the wrong column. Lol
Post by: @Yehuda on January 04, 2018, 08:53:37 AM
Post by: TAVI on January 04, 2018, 09:15:23 AM
Are there any 5th Freedoms from JFK-LAX?
nope
Post by: a mirrer on January 04, 2018, 09:33:32 AM
Are there any 5th Freedoms from JFK-LAX?the Qantas flight is not a 5th freedom, but possible to book as a stopover award with AS continuing to Australia eventually
Post by: iAm on January 04, 2018, 11:50:56 AM
Are there any 5th Freedoms from JFK-LAX?
This is by very definition impossible. The fifth freedom allows an airline to carry revenue traffic between foreign countries as a part of services connecting the airline's own country.
Post by: iAm on January 04, 2018, 11:52:51 AM
the Qantas flight is not a 5th freedom, but possible to book as a stopover award with AS continuing to Australia eventually
While this may be able to be booked, do you know of anyone who has actually flown that... it's officially cabbatoge.
Post by: high end hobo on January 04, 2018, 12:01:27 PM
the Qantas flight is not a 5th freedom, but possible to book as a stopover award with AS continuing to Australia eventually
This is by very definition impossible. The fifth freedom allows an airline to carry revenue traffic between foreign countries as a part of services connecting the airline's own country.
While this may be able to be booked, do you know of anyone who has actually flown that... it's officially cabbatoge.It's not impossible, it would be under the 8th freedom, which the USA doesnt allow
Yes I know someone who booked and flew it
Post by: @Yehuda on June 28, 2018, 11:33:11 AM
Post by: shapsam on June 28, 2018, 11:36:16 AM
I'm seeing a BA flight from EWR-ORY. Make sense? Is that new?Not new, its Open skies.
Post by: hvaces42 on March 28, 2019, 12:16:15 AM
Air Canada (AC):KLM now services this same route.
EZE-SCL
Just added this to the wiki.
Looks like EZE is the 5th Freedom capital.
13.5k FB in Y
34k FB and up in J
Operating 77W AFAIK
Post by: ad120 on July 29, 2020, 12:33:19 AM
SY 934
Post by: ah giten on July 29, 2020, 01:27:57 AM
Post by: yuds70 on July 29, 2020, 03:04:53 AM
Not exactly a 5th freedom but an interesting route nonetheless:Ha, I see it in my GDS...
SY 934
Though it seems all classes are available, it doesn't let me hold a seat.
The funny thing is, I see they have published fares for this route, $5 in B class, and $9 in Y class.
Post by: ad120 on July 30, 2020, 12:51:34 AM
Ha, I see it in my GDS...Interesting. I guess it's a direct flight from EWR to MSP and picks up passengers in PHL.
Though it seems all classes are available, it doesn't let me hold a seat.
The funny thing is, I see they have published fares for this route, $5 in B class, and $9 in Y class.