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Title: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 06, 2015, 01:34:37 PM
I have been a fan of blackberry for a long time and I switched to the new blackberry about 5 months ago. I realized the most people look at blackberry a phone of the past!

My question is why?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: avromie7 on April 06, 2015, 01:39:37 PM
I have been a fan of blackberry for a long time and I switched to the new blackberry about 5 months ago. I realized the most people look at blackberry a phone of the past!

My question is why?
You answered it yourself it is a phone of the past the flopped by not moving ahead and now they are still lagging
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 06, 2015, 01:41:31 PM
You answered it yourself it is a phone of the past the flopped by not moving ahead and now they are still lagging
In what are they lagging please explain your self
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: avromie7 on April 06, 2015, 01:43:32 PM
In what are they lagging please explain your self
There are few blackberry apps and you need a workaround to get play store apps so why would I want that if I can just get an android
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Tankchucker on April 06, 2015, 01:46:34 PM
I have been a fan of blackberry for a long time and I switched to the new blackberry about 5 months ago. I realized the most people look at blackberry a phone of the past!

My question is why?
Why should people take a $600 gamble to see if it's good while they can get a android for the same price, that they know is good?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 06, 2015, 01:47:03 PM
There are few blackberry apps and you need a workaround to get play store apps so why would I want that if I can just get an android
Ok I understand that what if that part will be fixed (it will be as BlackBerry just made a deal with google) would you try it out?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 06, 2015, 01:47:46 PM
Why should people take a $600 gamble to see if it's good while they can get a android for the same price, that they know is good?
Why $600 it about 200?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: sammy n on April 06, 2015, 01:49:17 PM
Why $600 it about 200?
Not without contract.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: avromie7 on April 06, 2015, 01:50:30 PM
Ok I understand that what if that part will be fixed (it will be as BlackBerry just made a deal with google) would you try it out?
Honestly I love the Oneplus One and have no reason to move to a different OS had blackberry moved along with the times when iphone first came out they would be in much better shape because they would still have the old blackberry people who have since moved to android or ios
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: keemster26 on April 06, 2015, 01:52:21 PM
Why $600 it about 200?
B/c the nexus 5 rocks!
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: avromie7 on April 06, 2015, 01:53:33 PM
another problem is that blackberry may go under at anytime and then you're screwed
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 06, 2015, 02:04:04 PM
Not without contract.
Um... not true
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 06, 2015, 02:05:10 PM
another problem is that blackberry may go under at anytime and then you're screwed
Why would that affect the device?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: avromie7 on April 06, 2015, 02:06:28 PM
Why would that affect the device?
nothing would be updated once that happens
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Einstein on April 06, 2015, 02:14:38 PM
I have been a fan of blackberry for a long time and I switched to the new blackberry about 5 months ago. I realized the most people look at blackberry a phone of the past!

My question is why?
+1 every time I say I have a Blackberry everybody just laughs at me

But I love it, just wish they had more apps, but now with the new OS they have the Amazon app store!! So basically I'm very happy and don't plan on switching anytime soon
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 06, 2015, 02:23:32 PM
nothing would be updated once that happens
But that does not make it a device from the past!
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: avromie7 on April 06, 2015, 02:24:25 PM
But that does not make it a device from the past!
that is true but it is still a reason not to get it
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Tankchucker on April 06, 2015, 02:58:10 PM
Um... not true
Where is the new blackberrys $200 without contract?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Einstein on April 06, 2015, 03:27:46 PM
Where is the new blackberrys $200 without contract?
its not, its $400 but any new phone like the Iphone or Galaxy new off contract is around twice the price!
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Tankchucker on April 06, 2015, 03:47:52 PM
its not, its $400 but any new phone like the Iphone or Galaxy new off contract is around twice the price!
Alright I might look into it, because I really want a physical keyboard.

Do you know if it's available for sprint and what's the name of the latest model that has keyboard?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Einstein on April 06, 2015, 04:03:27 PM
Alright I might look into it, because I really want a physical keyboard.

Do you know if it's available for sprint and what's the name of the latest model that has keyboard?
classic and no unfortunately its only available for verizon or AT&T but its a great phone
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: cozmohoot on April 06, 2015, 04:09:51 PM
I got a classic for an employee and it needed to be reset.
Holy smokes! The thing took literally 45 minutes to get wiped and back to home screen. It's 2015, that's unacceptable. This phone didn't even have any apps installed yet.. Crazy
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 06, 2015, 04:40:49 PM
I got a classic for an employee and it needed to be reset.
Holy smokes! The thing took literally 45 minutes to get wiped and back to home screen. It's 2015, that's unacceptable. This phone didn't even have any apps installed yet.. Crazy
What company? What version were you running?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: cozmohoot on April 06, 2015, 06:14:06 PM
Vzw. No clue the version. Guy in store said it's normal...
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 06, 2015, 07:41:05 PM
Vzw. No clue the version. Guy in store said it's normal...
Ok that's normal, had you done it through the computer it would take less... but I agree it's a problem
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Achas Veachas on April 06, 2015, 07:50:21 PM
Arguing over the merits of the BB is pointless, the question was why people won't even TRY it and that's mainly a branding issue like people mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Einstein on April 06, 2015, 08:32:26 PM
Arguing over the merits of the BB is pointless, the question was why people won't even TRY it and that's mainly a branding issue like people mentioned earlier.
agreed! thats the only conclusion that I can come to, I just tried the new ones and really like them and wouldnt go back anytime soon
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: sillypainter on April 06, 2015, 09:22:53 PM
I'm a die hard Blackberry fan for 2 reasons, the keyboard and email/hub. I do understand why people love Android/IOS, it's an OS that works. BlackBerry releases or leaks different OS versions with bugs all the time. Waze doesn't work well on my classic (loses GPS signal constantly), and I can go on.....BB has an app issue they can't do anything about it...Android runtime is better than nothing but it sucks.

Also, they release the Classic, so one would think they would put all the juice in this device instead it's a laggy device. I always dreamt of BB10 in the classic factor because these are the only BlackBerry people left and now they killed it. It looks like the people on top don't really use Blackberry's.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: keemster26 on April 06, 2015, 09:54:37 PM
I'm a die hard Blackberry fan for 2 reasons, the keyboard and email/hub. I do understand why people love Android/IOS, it's an OS that works. BlackBerry releases or leaks different OS versions with bugs all the time. Waze doesn't work well on my classic (loses GPS signal constantly), and I can go on.....BB has an app issue they can't do anything about it...Android runtime is better than nothing but it sucks.

Also, they release the Classic, so one would think they would put all the juice in this device instead it's a laggy device. I always dreamt of BB10 in the classic factor because these are the only BlackBerry people left and now they killed it. It looks like the people on top don't really use Blackberry's.
Why don't you use SwiftKey by now? Or any swipe keyboard?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Super Speed on April 06, 2015, 09:57:52 PM
Here's my personal experience, I couldn't wait for the Classic to come out and when it did I had it. Even though it has all the apps that I need thanks to the Amazon app store and sideloading it still is slow (not slow as in BlackBerry slow but slower then any decent android) and since the apps aren't optimized for BlackBerry I find the apps very buggy. Also there are a lot of annoying glitches that I wish they would've fixed since OS 10 came out. For me I think I'm permanently done wit BlackBerry.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: sillypainter on April 06, 2015, 09:59:55 PM
Why don't you use SwiftKey by now? Or any swipe keyboard?

It's not just the keyboard, it's also the hub. I hate email in IOS and Android. I just love how Blackberry does email/messaging. For the life of me I can't understand why nobody copies that onto Android.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Einstein on April 06, 2015, 10:01:33 PM
It's not just the keyboard, it's also the hub. I hate email in IOS and Android. I just love how Blackberry does email/messaging. For the life of me I can't understand why nobody copies that onto Android.
+! gotta agree on that...also Ive heard the alarm clock on the Blackberry is awesome! (as silly as that sounds)
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: keemster26 on April 06, 2015, 10:01:43 PM
It's not just the keyboard, it's also the hub. I hate email in IOS and Android. I just love how Blackberry does email/messaging. For the life of me I can't understand why nobody copies that onto Android.
I have a couple friends who still use blackberry and they tell me the same thing. Apparently they like it only b/c of email.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 06, 2015, 10:02:14 PM
I have a couple friends who still use blackberry and they tell me the same thing. Apparently they like it only b/c of email.
They have the new one?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: keemster26 on April 06, 2015, 10:03:36 PM
They have the new one?
Idk. They say that about blackberry in general.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Joel_Schwartz on April 16, 2015, 12:42:35 PM
I've been with blackberry since the beginning..  I love blackberry. It's simply awesome. Have the q10
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: springles on April 16, 2015, 01:16:52 PM
It's not just the keyboard, it's also the hub. I hate email in IOS and Android. I just love how Blackberry does email/messaging. For the life of me I can't understand why nobody copies that onto Android.
yup, I love my BB and dont see myself switching while they still make phones but if android copied the hub that would make me reconsider that.  The keyboard is great but I could get used to swype or swiftkey.  But the hub is what keeps me.  Its just such a smart and efficient way of organizing emails/texts...
I dont find most of the android apps buggy, some are but none that I really rely on.   
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: ash on April 16, 2015, 01:20:27 PM
I have the q10 its a great phone simple and easy to use but more important doesn't break easily
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: good sam on April 16, 2015, 01:24:08 PM
Can someone explain what's so great about the emails?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 16, 2015, 01:39:10 PM
Can someone explain what's so great about the emails?
Its not so much the emails itself... its the way they are displayed and set up
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: good sam on April 16, 2015, 01:50:04 PM
Its not so much the emails itself... its the way they are displayed and set up
You thought I meant the content of the emails?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 16, 2015, 02:02:04 PM
You thought I meant the content of the emails?
No i thought you meant the fact that you can have email (just like the android and iPhone)
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Joel_Schwartz on April 16, 2015, 02:12:11 PM
People. Let's not forget why we love blackberry. It's all because it's the best encrypted device. And secure
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Einstein on April 16, 2015, 02:12:54 PM
I Love my blackberry the way that the Hub is set up is extraordinary!
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Einstein on April 16, 2015, 02:13:16 PM
People. Let's not forget why we love blackberry. It's all because it's the best encrypted device. And secure
+1
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Joel_Schwartz on April 16, 2015, 02:13:36 PM
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Achas Veachas on April 16, 2015, 02:15:01 PM
People. Let's not forget why we love blackberry. It's all because it's the best encrypted device. And secure
You can encrypt an Android...
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Joel_Schwartz on April 16, 2015, 02:17:09 PM
Yes u can. True. But when it comes to an attack the blackberry wins. It's known.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Einstein on April 16, 2015, 02:18:08 PM
You can encrypt an Android...
There is a reason the president uses a blackberry and not something else
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yuneeq on April 16, 2015, 05:20:37 PM
Can someone explain what's so great about the emails?

The same people that buy outdated technology also think that email is a recent invention only available on BB.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 16, 2015, 08:10:47 PM
The same people that buy outdated technology also think that email is a recent invention only available on BB.
?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Yordai Dooma on April 16, 2015, 08:34:06 PM
I left blackberry when my company switched to Microsoft Exchange server. Emails would only sync every 15 minutes or so unless i purchased blackberry BES. The IT department tried everything including tweaking settings on both the server and the device... Gmail emails came instantly, but exchange emails took 15 minutes (which was usually 16 minutes too late ;D

I did love the keyboard and thought i had everything and would have a BB forever...boy was i wrong. My Samsung Galaxy S5 is light-years better. The only thing i still miss is the keyboard but SwiftKey helps.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 16, 2015, 08:38:34 PM
I left blackberry when my company switched to Microsoft Exchange server. Emails would only sync every 15 minutes or so unless i purchased blackberry BES. The IT department tried everything including tweaking settings on both the server and the device... Gmail emails came instantly, but exchange emails took 15 minutes (which was usually 16 minutes too late ;D

I did love the keyboard and thought i had everything and would have a BB forever...boy was i wrong. My Samsung Galaxy S5 is light-years better. The only thing i still miss is the keyboard but SwiftKey helps.
Why couldn't they use active sync?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Yordai Dooma on April 17, 2015, 01:55:08 AM
Why couldn't they use active sync?
No idea... They tried and tried and the only solution was getting a new phone. Perhaps it was an older bb? I had the tour 9630? This was like 3 years ago.

 I will add that there is something to be said about having a phone that takes less than 10 minutes to reboot
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 17, 2015, 02:23:47 AM
No idea... They tried and tried and the only solution was getting a new phone. Perhaps it was an older bb? I had the tour 9630? This was like 3 years ago.

 I will add that there is something to be said about having a phone that takes less than 10 minutes to reboot
Oh... I was talking about the NEW blackberry
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Yordai Dooma on April 17, 2015, 02:25:25 AM
Oh... I was talking about the NEW blackberry
i know...but these are preciesly reasons why i wouldnt try the new blackberry
Buhri (android) V'shemah (BB)
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yesitsme on April 17, 2015, 10:46:00 AM
There is a reason the president uses a blackberry and not something else
the same reason why he plays golf

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/21/obama-considers-ditching-backberry-smartphone-samsung-lg
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Einstein on April 17, 2015, 11:08:06 AM
the same reason why he plays golf

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/21/obama-considers-ditching-backberry-smartphone-samsung-lg
u realize that the article is over a year old and hes still using the blackberrys
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yuneeq on April 19, 2015, 02:09:51 AM
There is a reason the president uses a blackberry and not something else

The president uses a specially customized extra-secure version of the blackberry so it's not really applicable to this conversation.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: thaber on April 19, 2015, 02:20:53 AM
The president uses a specially customized extra-secure version of the blackberry so it's not really applicable to this conversation.
Anyway, I don't think he really uses it, he just carries it on his belt because it looks cool.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Dr Moose on April 19, 2015, 02:25:28 AM
Anyway, I don't think he really uses it, he just carries it on his belt because it looks cool.
uhh, he's not a tuna beigel
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: thaber on April 19, 2015, 02:38:51 AM
uhh, he's not a tuna beigel
It was a joke. But he only has about 10 numbers on it, and very limited email. no apps, no tecting, no bbm. and presumably when he's sitting at his desk he uses the computer and phone there. and he has a desk on his plane and in his car he has a phone and a computer as well.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: JoeCha on April 19, 2015, 09:10:41 AM
I've been with blackberry since the beginning..  I love blackberry. It's simply awesome. Have the q10
Well, you just said it why your opinion doesn't count: you've always been with BB.

Try an S5 for 2 months and then we can have a discussion.

Most of us android users had blackberry in the past and no one would consider going beck.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Einstein on April 19, 2015, 11:07:49 AM
Well, you just said it why your opinion doesn't count: you've always been with BB.

Try an S5 for 2 months and then we can have a discussion.

Most of us android users had blackberry in the past and no one would consider going beck.
I switched back from a galaxy...much happier with the layout of everything, I honestly do wish that my blackberry was a little faster
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 19, 2015, 08:09:29 PM
Well, you just said it why your opinion doesn't count: you've always been with BB.

Try an S5 for 2 months and then we can have a discussion.

Most of us android users had blackberry in the past and no one would consider going beck.
I work in a phone store... I still hold its better
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Super Speed on April 21, 2015, 09:30:50 AM
I work in a phone store... I still hold its better
The blackberry? It's horrible, slow and heavy. Apps don't work well at all and the UI is just Ollllld.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Yordai Dooma on April 21, 2015, 09:34:32 AM
The blackberry? It's horrible, slow and heavy. Apps don't work well at all and the UI is just Ollllld.
But, but, but he works in a phone store! :D
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Einstein on April 21, 2015, 09:37:15 AM
The blackberry? It's horrible, slow and heavy. Apps don't work well at all and the UI is just Ollllld.
-1 I think the UI is laid out fantastically, the only thing is I wish the phones were a little more powerful
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: aygart on April 21, 2015, 09:39:22 AM
-1 I think the UI is laid out fantastically, the only thing is I wish the phones were a little more powerful
you seem to be in the minority with that opinion
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 21, 2015, 10:45:47 AM
The blackberry? It's horrible, slow and heavy. Apps don't work well at all and the UI is just Ollllld.
Did you try the new one?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: springles on April 21, 2015, 01:35:01 PM
you seem to be in the minority with that opinion
I am in that minority too.  I think the UI is really solid.  But I have long since given up trying to convince people.  The truth is that iOS, Android, and BB10 all have their merits and shortcomings.  But BB will ultimately lose because they messed up early and have gotten their hardware up to date way too late in the game.  Its a marketing thing now and BB is going to lose that battle every time.  I almost feel like they would have been better off putting out BB10 under a new brand that didnt carry the weight of the name Blackberry.  It would have been a huge gamble (not automatically bringing their existing customer base) but they may have had a shot of appealing to new, younger customers as a new OS that does things better.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yuneeq on April 21, 2015, 01:53:02 PM
I am in that minority too.  I think the UI is really solid.  But I have long since given up trying to convince people.  The truth is that iOS, Android, and BB10 all have their merits and shortcomings.  But BB will ultimately lose because they messed up early and have gotten their hardware up to date way too late in the game.  Its a marketing thing now and BB is going to lose that battle every time.  I almost feel like they would have been better off putting out BB10 under a new brand that didnt carry the weight of the name Blackberry.  It would have been a huge gamble (not automatically bringing their existing customer base) but they may have had a shot of appealing to new, younger customers as a new OS that does things better.

Are you kidding?
BB is still far, far away, as long as they have that pathetic shell of an app store.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Einstein on April 21, 2015, 02:14:11 PM
I am in that minority too.  I think the UI is really solid.  But I have long since given up trying to convince people.  The truth is that iOS, Android, and BB10 all have their merits and shortcomings.  But BB will ultimately lose because they messed up early and have gotten their hardware up to date way too late in the game.  Its a marketing thing now and BB is going to lose that battle every time.  I almost feel like they would have been better off putting out BB10 under a new brand that didnt carry the weight of the name Blackberry.  It would have been a huge gamble (not automatically bringing their existing customer base) but they may have had a shot of appealing to new, younger customers as a new OS that does things better.
+1
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Super Speed on April 21, 2015, 02:28:57 PM
Did you try the new one?
Yes and now I have the S6 and wouldn't consider going back to the classic. The classic really has nothing going for it except that its more so called secure.
I am in that minority too.  I think the UI is really solid.  But I have long since given up trying to convince people.  The truth is that iOS, Android, and BB10 all have their merits and shortcomings.  But BB will ultimately lose because they messed up early and have gotten their hardware up to date way too late in the game.  Its a marketing thing now and BB is going to lose that battle every time.  I almost feel like they would have been better off putting out BB10 under a new brand that didnt carry the weight of the name Blackberry.  It would have been a huge gamble (not automatically bringing their existing customer base) but they may have had a shot of appealing to new, younger customers as a new OS that does things better.
The UI is still not up to date it feels like im using an android from the 90s its a terrible phone, if I didnt need any apps I'd prefer the Bold 9930 over the classic.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Super Speed on April 21, 2015, 02:29:43 PM
Are you kidding?
BB is still far, far away, as long as they have that pathetic shell of an app store.
That's not really a problem considering you can get any android app but like I said upthread the apps aren't optimized and that's a huge issue.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: springles on April 21, 2015, 02:31:33 PM
Are you kidding?
BB is still far, far away, as long as they have that pathetic shell of an app store.
Their app store deficiency is one of the areas that I believe is PR driven, its really not that bad.  And with the Amazon app store on BB10.3 now there is access to basically all apps.  Some people complain about the way a few of those apps run but I have not had any issues.  Bottom line I have every app that I want or need on my phone.  give me an app that you use that is not available on BB?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yuneeq on April 21, 2015, 02:38:02 PM
Their app store deficiency is one of the areas that I believe is PR driven, its really not that bad.  And with the Amazon app store on BB10.3 now there is access to basically all apps.  Some people complain about the way a few of those apps run but I have not had any issues.  Bottom line I have every app that I want or need on my phone.  give me an app that you use that is not available on BB?

The apps from Android don't work well.
And the native app store is missing tons of apps that I and probably most people use.
I don't remember now, but in my searches I came up empty many times. Amazon Seller central I do remember.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: springles on April 21, 2015, 02:38:47 PM
Yes and now I have the S6 and wouldn't consider going back to the classic. The classic really has nothing going for it except that its more so called secure.The UI is still not up to date it feels like im using an android from the 90s its a terrible phone, if I didnt need any apps I'd prefer the Bold 9930 over the classic.
I have used my wife's S5 very much.  i dont feel like the UI is any more modern/better than BB10. Personally I really like the layout of the BB UI.   I dont use the classic but my mom does and when Ive played around with it I liked it.  This is a matter of opinion of course and like I said, I dont try to convince anyone to switch to BB.  Some people will prefer any of the OS's over any of the others.  i think if they had stamped the name QNX on BB10 and not called it a blackberry then people would have liked it more.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yuneeq on April 21, 2015, 02:40:05 PM
That's not really a problem considering you can get any android app but like I said upthread the apps aren't optimized and that's a huge issue.

Poorly working apps is not called competition to the Android or iOS app stores in 2015.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: springles on April 21, 2015, 02:50:45 PM
Poorly working apps is not called competition to the Android or iOS app stores in 2015.
again, for me I have not had any issues with the android apps.  I dont sell on amazon so i havent used the app you mentioned above but i will check it out later to see how it is on the blackberry
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Super Speed on April 21, 2015, 03:00:01 PM
again, for me I have not had any issues with the android apps.  I dont sell on amazon so i havent used the app you mentioned above but i will check it out later to see how it is on the blackberry
I've used it, it's super slow.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yitrap on April 21, 2015, 03:29:02 PM

I've used it, it's super slow.

Ha, ironic considering your username
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 21, 2015, 03:37:46 PM
I've used it, it's super slow.
OK

1. when did you use it? they have updated the OS in the past 2 Months
2. The android apps work perfectly and ARE optimized
3. Dont get a classic for other reasons
4. I dont what your talking about that the "classic" is more secure
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yitrap on April 21, 2015, 03:50:10 PM


3. Dont get a classic for other reasons

What other reasons?


4. I dont what your talking about that the "classic" is more secure

I think he meant BB in general over the S6
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 21, 2015, 03:55:34 PM
What other reasons?
Its nothing more than a q10 the specs are the same and it just has a tool belt dumped in.
They will have to come out with the Classic 2 in a year
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Super Speed on April 21, 2015, 04:00:43 PM


OK

1. when did you use it? they have updated the OS in the past 2 Months
2. The android apps work perfectly and ARE optimized
3. Dont get a classic for other reasons
4. I dont what your talking about that the "classic" is more secure

I used it until the S6 came out which is about a week and a half ago.
They are not optimized at all, much slower in opening.
How does the Amex app work etc.
I didn't mean that the classic was more secure I meant BB in general.
The fact that it had a trackpad was the reason I got it over the Q10.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yitrap on April 21, 2015, 04:16:41 PM

Its nothing more than a q10 the specs are the same and it just has a tool belt dumped in.
They will have to come out with the Classic 2 in a year

Okay but between the Q10 or the Classic would make more sense to get the Classic no?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: ash on April 21, 2015, 04:56:05 PM
only thing I would like to get is thee bank apps
is there a way to get them ?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: springles on April 21, 2015, 05:05:47 PM
only thing I would like to get is thee bank apps
is there a way to get them ?
I have the chase app which works perfectly
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: ash on April 21, 2015, 05:08:59 PM
through amazon ?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Einstein on April 21, 2015, 05:09:21 PM
only thing I would like to get is thee bank apps
is there a way to get them ?
I have wells fargo, works great
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: springles on April 21, 2015, 05:39:02 PM
through amazon ?
yeah
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 21, 2015, 06:02:47 PM

I used it until the S6 came out which is about a week and a half ago.
They are not optimized at all, much slower in opening.
How does the Amex app work etc.
I didn't mean that the classic was more secure I meant BB in general.
The fact that it had a trackpad was the reason I got it over the Q10.
That was the mistake that you got the classic because of the track pad. The track pad was just dumped there it was not meant for BB OS 10
Not that is Geshmak at all but there is a way to get the play store on the BB
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Super Speed on April 21, 2015, 07:21:00 PM
That was the mistake that you got the classic because of the track pad. The track pad was just dumped there it was not meant for BB OS 10
Not that is Geshmak at all but there is a way to get the play store on the BB
I had the Q10 and I actually liked the Classic more, because of the trackpad. About the apps I know how to get all the android apps but try the Amex app and tell me how well it works.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 21, 2015, 08:04:47 PM
I had the Q10 and I actually liked the Classic more, because of the trackpad. About the apps I know how to get all the android apps but try the Amex app and tell me how well it works.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: sillypainter on April 21, 2015, 09:00:05 PM
Everything works great now even Waze which sucked until my recent update, however they didn't put enough juice in the classic. After all the complaints of lag, one would think that Blackberry would release a classic device with a lot of horsepower, they didn't......I'm still sticking to it because I like it, but I can understand why people hate them.

Also, things started looking after the VERY recent OS updates.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 21, 2015, 10:12:02 PM
Everything works great now even Waze which sucked until my recent update, however they didn't put enough juice in the classic. After all the complaints of lag, one would think that Blackberry would release a classic device with a lot of horsepower, they didn't......I'm still sticking to it because I like it, but I can understand why people hate them.

Also, things started looking after the VERY recent OS updates.
The biggest problem with the classic is that it has the same specs as the Q10 but they dumped a toolbelt. People thought that it was a "better" phone but in reality it's not. Not only that but the OS was designed to be used without a toolbelt.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Super Speed on April 21, 2015, 10:53:23 PM

When signing in I always had to hit no on notification request and then some other pop up question, you signed in and it went directly to this?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 21, 2015, 11:49:55 PM
When signing in I always had to hit no on notification request and then some other pop up question, you signed in and it went directly to this?
Yes I to select don't. 
But it works
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Super Speed on April 22, 2015, 12:02:10 AM
Yes I to select don't. 
But it works
It works but every time I login to have to do that is a real pain.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 22, 2015, 08:52:52 AM
http://gizmodo.com/security-bug-lets-attackers-crash-any-iphone-or-ipad-wi-1699376518
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yuneeq on April 22, 2015, 09:42:55 AM
http://gizmodo.com/security-bug-lets-attackers-crash-any-iphone-or-ipad-wi-1699376518


https://threatpost.com/blackberry-warns-many-products-vulnerable-to-freak-attack/111607

As if any of this relevant to the convo...
Any OS has vulnerabilities, the question is how serious the vulnerabilities are, and how fast does the company fix it.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 22, 2015, 09:52:49 AM

https://threatpost.com/blackberry-warns-many-products-vulnerable-to-freak-attack/111607

As if any of this relevant to the convo...
Any OS has vulnerabilities, the question is how serious the vulnerabilities are, and how fast does the company fix it.
That is an attack on the Internet even google chrome constantly updates for vulnerability. But this is a vulnerability in the device itself.

Whatever I hate apple so I guess this is a bias post
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Super Speed on April 23, 2015, 09:01:46 AM
That is an attack on the Internet even google chrome constantly updates for vulnerability. But this is a vulnerability in the device itself.

Whatever I hate apple so I guess this is a bias post
And I now hate blackberry, so!
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Myccrabbi on April 23, 2015, 10:11:54 AM
And I now hate blackberry, so!
Ss pm
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 23, 2015, 11:31:22 AM
And I now hate blackberry, so!
Glad we came to the reason you won't try the new BlackBerry!
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Super Speed on April 23, 2015, 02:06:05 PM
Glad we came to the reason you won't try the new BlackBerry!
Are you not following, I tried that piece of junk until the S6 came out and now I hate blackberry.
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 23, 2015, 03:15:45 PM
Are you not following, I tried that piece of junk until the S6 came out and now I hate blackberry.
Ok so now we know why you hate blackberry
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: Einstein on April 27, 2015, 08:53:44 AM
http://www.itproportal.com/2015/04/26/how-blackberry-leading-the-way-apple-google/
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: ash on April 27, 2015, 01:44:16 PM
I have the q10 and I downloaded the amazon app but it doesn't let me get the chase app....... any help?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yakov116 on April 27, 2015, 01:44:40 PM
I have the q10 and I downloaded the amazon app but it doesn't let me get the chase app....... any help?
Yes what company do you have?
Title: Re: Why are people not willing to try the new BlackBerry?
Post by: yitrap on April 27, 2015, 02:38:03 PM

http://www.itproportal.com/2015/04/26/how-blackberry-leading-the-way-apple-google/

They've always been the most secure, I figured that was what the article was about just by reading the link....