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Title: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on February 20, 2011, 03:47:56 PM
Perhaps we can start a master thread for Banff....can anyone recommend activities, hotels etc as I began the task of planning a holiday?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Banff - Canada
Post by: how on February 20, 2011, 04:23:37 PM
Rimrock and Fairmont are the nicest in Banff. There is another Fairmont in Lake Louise which is 40 minutes away. You can also stay in hotels in Canmore which is about a half hour away from Banff.
Title: Re: Banff - Canada
Post by: horeini on February 20, 2011, 06:06:42 PM
i personally stayed at fairmont was not at all impressed view from hotel room is limited because windows are very small rooms are stuffy and small basically you paying for location
Title: Re: Banff - Canada
Post by: kivabb on February 20, 2011, 08:28:51 PM
We stayed at the http://www.beckerschalets.com/ many years back. Was nice and in the middle a Icefields Parkway. Many cabins have kitchens as well.
Title: Re: Banff - Canada
Post by: eliteflyer on February 20, 2011, 09:06:45 PM
Not sure what your budget is, but KMRtours has been running summers up at the fairmont for several years now. A few years ago, they even did a pesach there.

kmrtours.com
Title: Re: Banff - Canada
Post by: YudiG on February 21, 2011, 01:28:57 AM
I'm looking for post pesach 2 days..thanks everyone keep the tips coming! what is good to do there activities wise?
Title: Re: Banff - Canada
Post by: AsherO on February 21, 2011, 01:48:02 AM
I'm looking for post pesach 2 days..thanks everyone keep the tips coming! what is good to do there activities wise?

Just go see the mountains, it's breathtaking, one of the most beautiful places I've ever been.
Title: Re: Banff - Canada
Post by: how on February 21, 2011, 07:17:25 AM
Just go see the mountains, it's breathtaking, one of the most beautiful places I've ever been.
+1

Wherever you go the view is breathtaking. For a start lake Louise, lake moraine, Ice fields, Gondola at Banff, Bow lake, Takkawa falls, Lake minnawanka loop.
How long r u staying? It will be very cold there right after pesach
Title: Re: Banff - Canada
Post by: AsherO on February 21, 2011, 08:44:32 AM
+1

Wherever you go the view is breathtaking. For a start lake Louise, lake moraine, Ice fields, Gondola at Banff, Bow lake, Takkawa falls, Lake minnawanka loop.

I recognize most of those names, but I didn't remember them on my own, thanks for listing them.

I heard Jasper (another state park north of Banff) is even more beautiful. Since it's even further off the beaten path, fewer tourists get there.
Title: Re: Banff - Canada
Post by: MLM on February 21, 2011, 03:46:47 PM
In Banff we stayed at rim rock it was gorgeous. It was ten years ago so I can't tell u what it is today. In Jasper we stayed at Fairmont it wasn't as fancy but very scenic huge grounds etc. We did cave rappeling abd glacier climbing and also scenic drives. Was an extremely memorable trip!
Title: Re: Banff - Canada
Post by: how on February 22, 2011, 08:09:53 AM
The ice fields are in Jasper. They are about 2 1/2 hours from banff but the drive is well worth it with breathtaking scenery along the way. (and bears and other wildlife). if you want to saty in jasper there is a fairmont there too a little past the ice fields. (The main sites are near banff. jasper is more quiet natural beauty.)
The Rimrock is still beautiful. and a little cheaper then fairmont. (unless you used the friend and family rate 2 years ago!!!)
Title: Re: Banff - Canada
Post by: aarony on February 22, 2011, 04:58:22 PM
Check out these gypsy guides, they are absolutely the best self tour guides for driving the canadian rockies.

http://www.gypsyguide.com/canada/index.php (http://www.gypsyguide.com/canada/index.php)


also, don't forget to stop at Peyto Lake, the photos i took there are the ones i was able to blow up and hang on my wall - people don't believe that it is real - the color of the lake is fascinating.
Title: Re: Banff - Canada
Post by: how on February 22, 2011, 05:17:17 PM
Check out these gypsy guides, they are absolutely the best self tour guides for driving the canadian rockies.

http://www.gypsyguide.com/canada/index.php (http://www.gypsyguide.com/canada/index.php)


also, don't forget to stop at Peyto Lake, the photos i took there are the ones i was able to blow up and hang on my wall - people don't believe that it is real - the color of the lake is fascinating.
+10
Peyto Lake is gorgeous. the color comes from rock particles of melting glaciers. fascinating! But  once you snap your picture and take in the view your on your way!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: tuki046 on May 16, 2011, 10:26:54 PM
Where is the best place to stay when visiting all these places? Banff? Or lake louise itself?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on May 31, 2011, 01:16:07 PM
Usually Banff. Lake louise has nothing there besides the beautiful lake
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Bp on June 02, 2011, 12:04:21 AM
anyone have any experience going to the rockies with little kids??
am i going to be in over my head? any advice or opinions on this?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: yissie on June 02, 2011, 10:21:24 AM
Should work okay considering lack of night life in that region anyway!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: rukiddingme on June 02, 2011, 11:13:46 AM
anyone have any experience going to the rockies with little kids??
am i going to be in over my head? any advice or opinions on this?

We're hoping for a trip to Banff this summer without the kids.  I don't know about your little kids, but mine would not do well driving a few hours into the ice fields or Jasper, hiking and then driving back.

We're going to VT or NH with the kids - there's more variety that they can appreciate in addition to the natural beauty.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Bp on June 02, 2011, 09:11:44 PM
We're hoping for a trip to Banff this summer without the kids.  I don't know about your little kids, but mine would not do well driving a few hours into the ice fields or Jasper, hiking and then driving back.

We're going to VT or NH with the kids - there's more variety that they can appreciate in addition to the natural beauty.

Should work okay considering lack of night life in that region anyway!

Thanks for the responses.

So the only issue would be the distance from place to place? how about the actual places is there a lot of walking and climbing
 to do? or is it easy to access with kids?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: yissie on June 02, 2011, 09:56:33 PM
Most vistas and attractions can be accessed , however there are basic ways to take in the views,  and more aggressive hiking, horseback ways to see the views. the latter would be difficult with small children
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on June 03, 2011, 05:28:38 AM
There are some nice trails that can be managed with a stroller. In general you should be fine. Most of the trip is driving and stopping to look so if your kids get edgy from not doing much expect to look for ways to keep them busy.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on July 07, 2011, 12:39:03 PM
Looking for a recommendation for budget hotel in the Banff area for Aug. 14-16 for 6 people...any suggestions?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: yissie on July 07, 2011, 02:01:15 PM
Looking for a recommendation for budget hotel in the Banff area for Aug. 14-16 for 6 people...any suggestions?


Banff Park Lodge was reasonable when I went a couple years back
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on July 07, 2011, 02:56:30 PM
it's $340 CAD per night
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on August 04, 2011, 09:52:52 PM
Any new tips for banff?  Lodging?  Low difficulty activities?  Good drives?  Heading there for a quick 3 day trip and any tips would be great!   Should we take a day to drive to Jasper?? 

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Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on August 04, 2011, 11:23:31 PM
  Should we take a day to drive to Jasper?? 

I haven't been to Jasper, but from what I heard it's worth the trip.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on August 08, 2011, 07:16:46 PM
Hows the drive from the calgary airport to banff?

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Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on August 10, 2011, 05:51:56 AM
very easy and nice - it takes a little more than an hour and a half
Title: Re: Banff - Canada
Post by: sawlw on August 11, 2011, 11:30:04 PM
is the Banff gondola ride worth it or its just another tourist waste of money?

+1

Wherever you go the view is breathtaking. For a start lake Louise, lake moraine, Ice fields, Gondola at Banff, Bow lake, Takkawa falls, Lake minnawanka loop.
How long r u staying? It will be very cold there right after pesach
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: sawlw on August 11, 2011, 11:37:02 PM
Looking for a recommendation for budget hotel in the Banff area for Aug. 14-16 for 6 people...any suggestions?

try canmore its 25 min from Banff .Grand Rocky  Resorts
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on May 23, 2012, 12:51:43 AM
I'm planning a trip for mid June.

  I'm trying to get an idea of how much time I will need to see everything. I will have 2 and a half days, I mainly want to drive and see the scenery, maybe a little hiking. I'm willing to drive up to ten hours a day total, preferably about 6-7. Given the above, will I be able to start from Calgary and go all the way to Jasper, or is that too much?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 23, 2012, 12:55:20 AM
If you really wanna drive alot, and the drive is stunning it is possible but it will be a long drive in each direction. What do you want to do in Jasper the ice field?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on May 23, 2012, 02:34:26 PM
If you really wanna drive alot, and the drive is stunning it is possible but it will be a long drive in each direction. What do you want to do in Jasper the ice field?

Not sure what I want to do in Jasper.... I just thought it would make sense to drive up to Edmonton and see different things on the road, rather than turn around and go back to Calgary and see the same scenery again.

Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2012, 11:21:54 PM
Any more reports of doing Banff with small children?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on July 22, 2012, 11:31:39 PM
Any more reports of doing Banff with small children?

Do you plan on going on hikes? If you're driving around in a car and going to observation areas, it shouldn't be hard on your kids, but they might be bored.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on July 22, 2012, 11:39:13 PM
Do you plan on going on hikes? If you're driving around in a car and going to observation areas, it shouldn't be hard on your kids, but they might be bored.

+1. There's a lot of driving depending on how much you want to see. I haven't had a chance to write up a trip report but feel free to PM me if you want more detailed info on what to see etc.

BTW the whole area is gorgeous, nicer in my opinion than Switzerland.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2012, 11:43:17 PM
Is it a place where we will miss out on incredible hikes/views due to having an infant in a stroller or would we be able to accomplish a lot regardless of that?

A few hours of driving is perfectly doable.
Title: Re: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 23, 2012, 12:30:33 AM
Is it a place where we will miss out on incredible hikes/views due to having an infant in a stroller or would we be able to accomplish a lot regardless of that?

A few hours of driving is perfectly doable.
Not willing to put the kid in a carrier/hiking knapsack?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 23, 2012, 12:55:16 AM
Not willing to put the kid in a carrier/hiking knapsack?
Never really tried, is that practical at 23 pounds?
Title: Re: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on July 23, 2012, 12:58:39 AM
Never really tried, is that practical at 23 pounds?

I've done it for easier hikes for a maximum hour at a time. Wasn't bad. I got a little achey here and there.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on July 23, 2012, 12:59:56 AM
Is it a place where we will miss out on incredible hikes/views due to having an infant in a stroller or would we be able to accomplish a lot regardless of that?

A few hours of driving is perfectly doable.


  I can't fully answer that as we mainly did driving with a few hikes here and there, and we traveled without my daughter. Some of the trails we went on were kind of steep and I would not recommend for a stroller unless you are up to a good workout. other trails were flat, YHMV lol. Maybe go with a stroller/knapsack combo?

As far a driving keep in mind that for example the Columbia Icefields highway is about 3 hours of driving without stops.


While I'm on the subject there's a stop on the Columbia Icefields Highway called Mistaya Canyon which is not really mentioned in guidebooks as something special. It's a powerful river that turns into a waterfall and then becomes a river though a canyon. We were there in June so maybe the water is stronger then but for us it was one of the highlights of our trip.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 23, 2012, 01:01:58 AM
C'mon type up a trip report :)
Title: Re: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 23, 2012, 09:13:57 AM
Never really tried, is that practical at 23 pounds?
In just did a pretty strenuous two hour hike with it. It's doable but I wouldn't do longer than that, and maybe a little more of a moderate hike.
The tough traveler knapsacks seem like they get nice reviews
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 23, 2012, 12:22:23 PM
The tough traveler knapsacks seem like they get nice reviews
Link?
Title: Re: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 23, 2012, 12:25:33 PM
Link?
http://www.epinions.com/reviews/kifm-Baby_Equipment-Carriers-All-Kid_Carrier
Although they are from ten years ago
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Traveler718 on July 24, 2012, 02:10:30 AM
Here's what I successfully used to do a number of hikes when my toddler was as much as 30 pounds:

http://www.rei.com/product/810852/deuter-kid-comfort-ii-child-carrier

It's not cheap, but it's amazingly built, and I wouldn't have been able to explore the Grand Canyon, Rocky Mountains, or many other places without it. The other brand I looked into is Kelty, but I love the Deuter and can't recommend it enough.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 24, 2012, 08:54:32 AM
Thanks. On sale here for $182 (http://www.tkqlhce.com/click-2164838-10461903?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.e-omc.com%2Fcatalog%2Fproducts%2F8764%2FDeuter-Kid-Comfort-II.html&cjsku=8764). Use code summer20 for another ten percent off
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 24, 2012, 05:30:39 PM
What's the difference between the Comfort 2 (http://www.tkqlhce.com/click-2164838-10461903?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.e-omc.com%2Fcatalog%2Fproducts%2F8764%2FDeuter-Kid-Comfort-II.html&cjsku=8764) and the Comfort 3 (http://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-2164838-10461903?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.e-omc.com%2Fcatalog%2Fproducts%2F8765%2FDeuter-Kid-Comfort-III.html&cjsku=8765)?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Traveler718 on July 24, 2012, 05:38:43 PM
The latest model has the higher back for a larger kid to fit in more comfortably as you can see in the pictures (we actually thought it would be too big to pack comfortably) plus a rear-view mirror so you can check if the kid is happy/sleeping/eating. I also seem to recall that it had a soft piece in front of the kid that he could lean forward onto in order to rest more comfortably. Didn't seem to justify the price to us, but feel free to read online reviews to see what others say.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: sezux on August 21, 2012, 11:36:05 PM
1.  Thanks to ZCN for the tips.

Banff in One Day

We spent one day in the park (drove in from Calgary in the morning and back out in the evening) and hiked from Lake Louise on the "Plain of Six Glaciers Trail".

To the lookout at the end of the trail is 8.5 miles RT (about 5 hrs); it is absolutely spectacular.  We saw kids as young as five doing it, and plenty of people carrying kids on their backs.

When we got back to lake Louise we drove up 93 (Ice-fields Pkwy), to the Saskatchewan River Crossing (about 1 hr).  The views are even better than the hike.  Be sure to stop and get out at Bow Lake.

Whenever you see people pulled over it means that there is some nice wildlife; we saw elk and bear.

We missed so much, but it was all we could fit in.  I wish I could've stayed for longer.

I Hope this helps people planning a one day stint in one of the most magnificent places that I have seen.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: joey89 on August 22, 2012, 02:09:36 AM
I just saw this post. Wish would have seen it earlier when I got back from banff, in Late march would have posted a report.
As is I was only there for a day so didnt get to see much
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mordy2 on August 22, 2012, 04:20:50 PM
I was in Banff for a couple days and it was awesome!!! The sights are unreal!!! I think it would be pretty hard to get it all in with a baby.  The scenery is so majestic. I would not miss Peyto lake, Mistaya Canyon, Lake Louise, the Icefields. TakkkawFalls is actually the tallest falls in Canada (although Niagara Falls is much much wider).

One spot no one mentioned is Johnston Canyon. Its a beautiful trail with 2 tracks- the upper falls and lower falls. The view from the upper falls is much better but even the lower falls involves quite a bit of climbing. Definitely can't be done with a stroller and it would be very difficult with a baby carrier.

The spiral tunnels in yoho park are interesting stop  if you have time. Due to the mountainous terrain, in order for a freight train to get to the next spot, it needs to cross over itself 4 times!

Lake emerald is a beautiful lake too. Rowboats, paddle boats and kayaks are avail at most lakes in the area. We went motor boating very far out/ don't remember the exact location. There are helicopter tours , atvs, and rafting for those looking for adventure.

There are gondolas in the lake Louise area and in Banff. I Would recommend the Banff gondola. You hike up to the mountain top once u get out of the gondola and the scenery is unreal up there.

The driving on its own is magnificent. The roads are pretty new- the highways were redone for the Calgary olympics. There's virtually no traffic- when cars stop you know there's wildlife on the road/ bears, wolves, mountain goats etc.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 03, 2013, 02:09:30 PM
Any more TRs?
Am I crazy to go to Banff with a baby in a stroller?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 03, 2013, 02:12:59 PM
Hope to have one for ya in the end of August though no kids will be joining me.

From what I've read I would attempt it with one kid in a stroller.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 03, 2013, 02:15:59 PM
Hope to have one for ya in the end of August though no kids will be joining me.

From what I've read I would attempt it with one kid in a stroller.
If I go it'll be before then.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: henche on June 03, 2013, 02:16:20 PM
Hiked Mt. Robson. It was mad awesome.

If doing again, I'd do in 4 days.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 03, 2013, 02:21:01 PM
Any consensus on the ideal trip time with Jasper and without Jasper?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on June 03, 2013, 02:53:27 PM
Any consensus on the ideal trip time with Jasper and without Jasper?
you can drive down to jasper and see the glaciers the drive is stunning and there are turn offs along the way that you will want to see anyway. i dont think there is much in jasper to warrant sleeping there but I could be wrong.

You will be perfectly fine with a baby stroller but dont expect to do any hikes or mountain climbing. Also bring a decent stroller that should make it easier. There are paths that you should still do with a stroller such as johnson falls, but its not so nice that its worth the effort.

Dont forget to bring along kosher food unless you wantto go when they have one of these kosher tours that are very $$$$$$

Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 03, 2013, 02:57:49 PM
Jasper is 7:20 round-trip according to Google.

That's much more than I'd want to drive in a day on vacation.  I'd rather skip it.

If there aren't any kid friendly hikes what is there to do with a kid? Am I better off going someplace else?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 03, 2013, 02:58:04 PM
Dont forget to bring along kosher food unless you wantto go when they have one of these kosher tours that are very $$$$$$
LOL
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on June 03, 2013, 03:06:39 PM
Jasper is 7:20 round-trip according to Google.

That's much more than I'd want to drive in a day on vacation.  I'd rather skip it.

Well if you look at it that way your right but when you put together an itinerary its not that simple. There are lakes and falls that are 1.5 2 hours away from banff and if your there anyway its just another hour to jasper. but frankly I dont think rafi will have such a thrill walking on ice and you can skip it.

Keep in mind that part of the beauty of banff is the driving. Banff is vast and seeing stunning views and wildlife wherever you go - you actually enjoy the drive.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on June 03, 2013, 03:10:09 PM

If there aren't any kid friendly hikes what is there to do with a kid? Am I better off going someplace else?
There is a lot more to Banff then hikes. But if your looking specifically for a kid friendly place go to Disneyland. But if you do want to go to banff, I dont think bringing a kid is so bad.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 03, 2013, 03:11:17 PM
There is a lot more to Banff then hikes.
That's what I'm asking.  What is there to do and how many days should be devoted to it?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on June 03, 2013, 03:32:43 PM
That's what I'm asking.  What is there to do and how many days should be devoted to it?
Its gets dark very lat there so you can plan a full day. I think 3 week days should be good if your not going to jasper.

The thread basically covers all the sites there. Bow lake and the Banff gondola are both in banff. I dont know if can take a baby on a canoe but the walk around the lake is nice. Lake Louise is about 45 min drive but is a must see. There is a fairmont there and a beautiful walking path around the lake which should be fine with a good stroller. Lake Moraine is probably even nicer then lake Louise and is about a half hour a way there also stroller no problem.
Lake minnawanka loop is a drive so no problem there and there is a nice picnic area there as well and maybe a boat ride.
then you have the further attractions such as peyto lake emerald lake Takawwawa falls etc which are all nice to see and dont require any hiking.

If you want you can try calling the concierge at one of the Fairmonts and ask the concierge for more ideas, but keep in mind that just being there is gorgeous you don't have to run on a hike to enjoy the beauty.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on June 10, 2013, 11:19:37 PM
Dan, any plans yet? Please post as I'm planning a vacation this summer and can't decide what to do with the small ones joining me.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 11:23:58 PM
Still unsure if going to Banff with the little one is worthwhile.  There are probably better options out there but I keep going back and forth.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 10, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
I spent a couple of weeks in the Canadian Rockies a few years ago and would certainly do it with a baby. There is plenty to see without much hiking and for the small hikes, like the ones around Morraine lake etc, you can take a baby carrier.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 11:31:00 PM
I spent a couple of weeks in the Canadian Rockies a few years ago and would certainly do it with a baby. There is plenty to see without much hiking and for the small hikes, like the ones around Morraine lake etc, you can take a baby carrier.
2 years olds don't go in baby carriers and aren't likely to want to stay on a path so unless it's stroller friendly it's a tough sell.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 10, 2013, 11:31:56 PM
2 years olds don't go in baby carriers and aren't likely to want to stay on a path so unless it's stroller friendly it's a tough sell.
Not even the carriers that go on the back?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 11:39:27 PM
Even if I had the strength to do that most 2 year olds aren't gonna want to be like that for more than 2 minutes.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 10, 2013, 11:44:16 PM
Even if I had the strength to do that most 2 year olds aren't gonna want to be like that for more than 2 minutes.
I hear that. When I was in the Canadian rockies I did a 5 day hike carrying a tent and 45 pounds on my back for days, rock climbing and hiking up and down mountains etc., but in a way a kid in the back can be even harder I guess.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 11:45:59 PM
Infinitely harder.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on June 10, 2013, 11:53:36 PM
Infinitely harder.
Yeh, not you nor the 2 year old will enjoy it.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mordy2 on June 11, 2013, 07:03:21 PM
The key questions are: What do you plan on doing there? How does Rafi behave on such trips?

You'll be limited traveling with a 2 year old to the Canadian Rockies.  Most of the attraction is the scenery- lakes, hiking, boating etc... and the driving! I know that my two year would not behave on such a trip! She doesn't last in the carriage or car seat for more than 5 minutes!! If I remember correctly, most of the basic paths/ trails can be done with a stroller.  Also, some of the lakes have a special handicap access (I remember this for Peyto Lake forsure- however, you're compromising on the view by using it.) As far as attractions: find out if there are any restrictions... I did a quick search- Banff Gondola and the Columbian Icefields allow little ones onboard. Not sure about boating- are little children allowed on canoes, kayaks etc??
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mordy2 on June 11, 2013, 07:05:24 PM
Can you take a babysitter along?? You'll definitely enjoy the trip much more that way!! The Canadian Rockies is really awesome- I can't wait to get back there!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 11, 2013, 11:19:28 PM
Can you take a babysitter along?? You'll definitely enjoy the trip much more that way!! The Canadian Rockies is really awesome- I can't wait to get back there!
If you are taking along a babysitter why limit yourself to the C Rockies.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: henche on June 11, 2013, 11:26:05 PM
Can you take a babysitter along?? You'll definitely enjoy the trip much more that way!! The Canadian Rockies is really awesome- I can't wait to get back there!

I enjoy the trip better when I don't take the babysitter (wife) along    :D
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 12, 2013, 02:33:30 PM
I'd like to visit Banff this summer (perhaps with another couple), and I was thinking about simply renting an RV which would help me accomplish three things:

1) I'd be able to skip paying for hotels,
2) I'd have a vehicle to visit all the different sites (as I understand a car is necessary), and
3) I'd be able to, well, rent an RV, which is on the bucket list.

Anybody got ideas or experience with renting RVs? Renting RVs in banff?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 12, 2013, 03:06:25 PM
I'm also looking forward to doing this one day, but from people I've spoken to who've done this it's
A. Not so comfy
B. You won't end up saving that much $
C. Definitely doesn't sound doable with another couple
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 12, 2013, 03:15:05 PM
Saving money is least compelling reason.

The adventure and experience are the chief reasons why I'd try to pull this off.

It'd have to a close couple ;)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 12, 2013, 03:18:06 PM
Saving money is least compelling reason.

The adventure and experience are the chief reasons why I'd try to pull this off.
Understood, that's why I said I plan on doing it at some point as well. just letting you know.
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It'd have to a close couple ;)
Maybe I have different perception of things but unless you were married to your brother in laws sister and he was married to your sister I don't see how it could be done
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 12, 2013, 03:24:46 PM
That just might be the case :P
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mordy2 on June 12, 2013, 03:30:36 PM
You definitely see lots of RVs on the road in the Canadian Rockies...
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on June 12, 2013, 04:34:12 PM
You definitely see lots of RVs on the road in the Canadian Rockies...
All driven by Chinese for some reason
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 12, 2013, 04:35:14 PM
All driven by Chinese for some reason

As it turns out, I'm a Chinese descendant. So at least I won't be hurting that statistic :P
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on June 12, 2013, 04:43:40 PM
Save the RV for a cross country trip. Although there many many RV's around Banff you will enjoy the drive, scenery, and parking more with a regular car. Although it will be convenient to have a flush-able toilet with you wherever you go.  ;D

As far as sleeping in an RV with another couple...... No comment
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: ayjay on June 13, 2013, 01:35:50 AM
Any more TRs?
Am I crazy to go to Banff with a baby in a stroller?
Dan I've been to banff/jasper many times. It's certainly not worth going with a kid in stroller
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 13, 2013, 01:41:53 AM
Save the RV for a cross country trip. Although there many many RV's around Banff you will enjoy the drive, scenery, and parking more with a regular car. Although it will be convenient to have a flush-able toilet with you wherever you go.  ;D

As far as sleeping in an RV with another couple...... No comment

2 bedroom RV? :)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: henche on June 13, 2013, 04:13:13 AM
Don't share an RV with anyone you wouldn't share a tent.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 13, 2013, 09:14:14 AM
Don't share an RV with anyone you wouldn't share a tent.
this is my understanding as well
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2013, 09:44:53 AM
Dan I've been to banff/jasper many times. It's certainly not worth going with a kid in stroller
Want to write a TR with what you did there (and what could and can't be done with a kid in a stroller?)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: ayjay on June 13, 2013, 01:44:01 PM
Want to write a TR with what you did there (and what could and can't be done with a kid in a stroller?)
I hope to write a TR when I have a chance, although I didn't go with a stroller.

The 2 main aspects of the Canadian Rockies are the beautiful scenery and the activities (camping,hiking,biking,rafting)..... If youre traveling with a kid you can see all the scenery while driving through banff/jasper and making stops along the way, but you'll be missing out on the many hikes and other activities. It all depends on what you want out of the trip.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2013, 02:06:48 PM
Camping is what you do with guys, not with your wife.

You don't think any of the hiking trails are stroller friendly?

Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 13, 2013, 02:10:46 PM
Camping is what you do with guys, not with your wife.

-1
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2013, 02:13:05 PM
-1
When you guys hike/camp the Kalalau trail lemme know about it.
POIDH.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 13, 2013, 02:40:45 PM
When you guys hike/camp the Kalalau trail lemme know about it.
POIDH.

So only the Kalalau trail is camping?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2013, 03:26:42 PM
So only the Kalalau trail is camping?
Yup.
And only the insane all-day hike my wife and I did in LIH is hiking :D

Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: ayjay on June 13, 2013, 04:24:03 PM
You don't think any of the hiking trails are stroller friendly?
Dunno. There are tons of different trails, so you might find some that are fine for strollers, but IMO a stroller will really limit your options.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on June 13, 2013, 04:27:20 PM
Dunno. There are tons of different trails, so you might find some that are fine for strollers, but IMO a stroller will really limit your options.
Sounds like you went mostly for the hikes. There are gorgeous hikes but there is plenty do to besides, especially if your only going for 3 - 4 days.

If you have time to write a TR I would want to read it.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2013, 04:28:07 PM
Dunno. There are tons of different trails, so you might find some that are fine for strollers, but IMO a stroller will really limit your options.
Of course. An infant will always limit what you can do on every trip.

That in it of itself doesn't mean it's not worth doing unless there's nothing worth doing there when you have in infant (a la an OWB in MLE/BOB)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: ayjay on June 13, 2013, 05:18:12 PM
Of course. An infant will always limit what you can do on every trip.

That in it of itself doesn't mean it's not worth doing unless there's nothing worth doing there when you have in infant (a la an OWB in MLE/BOB)
I don't think it's waste of time. Just driving around and making stops at different lakes (moraine, louise, emerald, peyto...), falls (takakawa, Johnston, sunwapta) and mountains along the way is beautiful. Certainly very relaxing.
Also, if you're not gonna do too many hikes you can drive down to the Waterton lakes, which are also supposed to be beautiful, although I've never been there.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2013, 05:22:09 PM
Driving around with a toddler and missing a nap unfortunately doesn't qualify as relaxing :'(
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: ayjay on June 13, 2013, 05:29:31 PM
Driving around with a toddler and missing a nap unfortunately doesn't qualify as relaxing :'(
so stay home 8)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2013, 05:32:13 PM
If I had that attitude I wouldn't have flown on 45+ flights with Rafi in the past 20 months and I'd have to change my screen name to yehuda S  ;)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 13, 2013, 05:32:17 PM
so stay home 8)
::) Or go somewhere more conducive for a two year old
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2013, 05:34:57 PM
Or go somewhere more conducive for a two year old
Precisely what I'm trying to figure out though not really grasping the situation there yet.

Are there enough stroller accessible hikes, lakes, and places to walk around to keep us occupied for a few days.

10 hour round-trip drives to Jasper are just not in the cards unless it's worth spending a night or 2 there.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 13, 2013, 05:36:37 PM
It's a tough age because nothing will really be entertaining to him other than parks and children's museums
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2013, 05:39:06 PM
It's a tough age because nothing will really be entertaining to him other than parks and children's museums
He's fine being pushed around in a stroller.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 13, 2013, 05:40:27 PM
He's fine being pushed around in a stroller.
I understand that, I meant for it to be interesting for him
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2013, 05:42:42 PM
I understand that, I meant for it to be interesting for him
Don't really need a trip to be interesting for him.  Need it to be tolerable for him so it will be enjoyable for us.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 13, 2013, 05:51:49 PM
Don't really need a trip to be interesting for him.  Need it to be tolerable for him so it will be enjoyable for us.
Have you called the Fairmont and ask what they suggest? They should be able to tell you what can be done when bringing a baby.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: henche on June 13, 2013, 06:07:52 PM
Have you called the Fairmont and ask what they suggest? They should be able to tell you what can be done when bringing a baby.

TITCR

I can't help on this one; I wasn't thinking about such things when I did the area.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 13, 2013, 06:40:35 PM
::) Or go somewhere more conducive for a two year old

Next up, TR from disneyworld :)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 13, 2013, 07:10:42 PM
Next up, TR from disneyworld :)


It's a tough age because nothing will really be entertaining to him other than parks and children's museums
And parks don't mean Disney
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 20, 2013, 04:51:03 PM
If anyone is considering joining one of the KMR tours to either Colorado or Banff, I can possibly get you a discount for $350. PM me for more details.

http://www.kmrtours.com
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 20, 2013, 04:59:46 PM
If anyone is considering joining one of the KMR tours to either Colorado or Banff, I can possibly get you a discount for $350. PM me for more details.

http://www.kmrtours.com
$350 total or $350 off list price?

Any chance they'll bring Dan as a guest speaker?

Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on June 20, 2013, 05:59:51 PM
Precisely what I'm trying to figure out though not really grasping the situation there yet.

Are there enough stroller accessible hikes, lakes, and places to walk around to keep us occupied for a few days.

I personally think that there's no such thing as a stroller accessible "hike". Pleasant walk or stroll, sure. But a "hike"? The Kalalu trail is a hike. Narrow cliffside trails, climbing over rocks and roots, and arriving somewhere remote and beautiful as a reward.

I think going to Banff just for the views and some walks is a huge pity. Why not save it for when you could enjoy it properly, as well as do all the activities?

If I were you I'd go to Yellowstone and the Tetons. You'd still get insanely amazing scenery and most everything is stroller accessible (boardwalks). You have amazing mountains, canyons, waterfalls, and a million other things. The advantage over Banff is that the walks aren't just walks, but they take you up close to some of the most amazing thermal features, things you won't see anywhere else in the world. You could spend weeks there and not see it all. And not to mention that Rafi would love all the bison, antelope, and moose roaming free and up close. He'd probably also enjoy the rodeo in Cody.

Basically if you're going somewhere to see things instead of doing things, I think Yellowstone/Tetons is far more interesting.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 06:27:32 PM
I personally think that there's no such thing as a stroller accessible "hike". Pleasant walk or stroll, sure. But a "hike"? The Kalalu trail is a hike. Narrow cliffside trails, climbing over rocks and roots, and arriving somewhere remote and beautiful as a reward.

I think going to Banff just for the views and some walks is a huge pity. Why not save it for when you could enjoy it properly, as well as do all the activities?

If I were you I'd go to Yellowstone and the Tetons. You'd still get insanely amazing scenery and most everything is stroller accessible (boardwalks). You have amazing mountains, canyons, waterfalls, and a million other things. The advantage over Banff is that the walks aren't just walks, but they take you up close to some of the most amazing thermal features, things you won't see anywhere else in the world. You could spend weeks there and not see it all. And not to mention that Rafi would love all the bison, antelope, and moose roaming free and up close. He'd probably also enjoy the rodeo in Cody.

Basically if you're going somewhere to see things instead of doing things, I think Yellowstone/Tetons is far more interesting.
Nu, so who's gonna do Kalalau with me :D

I loved the all day Waimea/Na Pali hike I did with my wife 3 years ago but those days are long gone.  I can't really picture the scenario when I'll be able to do Banff right until way in the future.

Plus we're spoiled and Banff, Lake Louise, and Jasper have highly rated Fairmonts we can stay in for free and get several free massages to boot.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 06:32:40 PM
Award availability this summer to Cody, WY seems dismal...
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on June 20, 2013, 06:52:36 PM
Award availability this summer to Cody, WY seems dismal...

Check JAC, it's the closest. BIL is also an option, you drive the amazing Beartooth Highway to get to Yellowstone. IDA is about a two hour drive away, maybe check that out too.

I flew in to SLC, about 4 hours away, but much cheaper, many more options, and the drive itself is beautiful so it wasn't that bad.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: henche on June 21, 2013, 03:41:28 AM
Yellowstone/tetons is pretty awesome. And like Fishy says, the scenery is pretty accessible. Like 90% of visitors never get more than a mile off the highway.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 21, 2013, 10:10:06 AM
Check JAC, it's the closest. BIL is also an option, you drive the amazing Beartooth Highway to get to Yellowstone. IDA is about a two hour drive away, maybe check that out too.

I flew in to SLC, about 4 hours away, but much cheaper, many more options, and the drive itself is beautiful so it wasn't that bad.

Post some of those amazing pictures and you'll probably entice Dan more. I remember you posted some of them on ddf before.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on June 21, 2013, 10:32:35 AM
Post some of those amazing pictures and you'll probably entice Dan more. I remember you posted some of them on ddf before.

:)

I have a half-time written TR sitting around somewhere, maybe it's time to finish it...

I'll upload some pictures when I get home later.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on June 23, 2013, 09:32:01 AM
I enjoyed my time in Banff immensely but only went on 1 real hike, the rest of the time we spent enjoying the beautiful sights and there is plenty of that!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on July 11, 2013, 09:45:04 PM
I quickly scanned through all 9 pages and didn't find the following. If you don't go with the program what do you do about food? Shabbos (and minyan)?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on July 12, 2013, 02:25:47 AM
I quickly scanned through all 9 pages and didn't find the following. If you don't go with the program what do you do about food? Shabbos (and minyan)?
There is some basic kosher food in the calgary like matzah and borsht  ::) but you will need to really bring along food. see the kosher food while traveling thread. Sometimes in the summer there are a minyan of frum people around but unless you arrange something before on one of these minyan sites you wont have a minyan - if your staying for shabbos which I dont recommend you will need to go back to calgary (1 1/2 hour drive) for a minyan and you will still have a issue with food
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on July 12, 2013, 04:51:10 PM
There is some basic kosher food in the calgary like matzah and borsht  ::) but you will need to really bring along food. see the kosher food while traveling thread. Sometimes in the summer there are a minyan of frum people around but unless you arrange something before on one of these minyan sites you wont have a minyan - if your staying for shabbos which I dont recommend you will need to go back to calgary (1 1/2 hour drive) for a minyan and you will still have a issue with food
thx
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: dovy2 on July 14, 2013, 01:22:15 AM
any round-about ways getting there with miles, besides AC to YYC? and good locations to land around the area and within driving limits?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 14, 2013, 01:38:05 AM
Calgary is the closest major airport, around 90 minutes away.
Edmonton is around four hours
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 17, 2013, 10:46:16 AM
Anyway back on topic we're going to do Banff.
Im lo achshav eimosai and all that jazz.

Anyone know what's the story with bringing food into Canada?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 17, 2013, 10:50:33 AM
Anyway back on topic we're going to do Banff.
Im lo achshav eimosai and all that jazz.

Anyone know what's the story with bringing food into Canada?
Never had any issues
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 17, 2013, 11:12:28 AM
Never had any issues
Did you declare it?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 17, 2013, 11:19:43 AM
Did you declare it?
Nope
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mordy2 on July 17, 2013, 11:49:37 AM
I was there a couple years ago... I didn't bring meat but another frum person did and the custom officials found it... They had dogs sniffing all the luggage at baggage claim!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on July 18, 2013, 02:32:52 PM
Anyway back on topic we're going to do Banff.
Im lo achshav eimosai and all that jazz.

Anyone know what's the story with bringing food into Canada?
YMMV
We stopped in Toronto and picked up food. In Calgary your options are very limited.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 18, 2013, 02:50:33 PM
YMMV
We stopped in Toronto and picked up food. In Calgary your options are very limited.
Hmm...wonder if I'm making a big mistake then.  What the heck am I going to do after they take away all my food :P
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on July 18, 2013, 02:54:15 PM
Hmm...wonder if I'm making a big mistake then.  What the heck am I going to do after they take away all my food :P


Great way to diet.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on July 18, 2013, 03:12:55 PM
Hmm...wonder if I'm making a big mistake then.

Hmmmm... Yellowstone, then? < Ducks and runs for cover :P>
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 18, 2013, 03:21:29 PM
Hmmmm... Yellowstone, then? < Ducks and runs for cover :P>
I would've if the miles gods would have been nicer.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 18, 2013, 06:52:26 PM
Hmm...wonder if I'm making a big mistake then.  What the heck am I going to do after they take away all my food :P
As per the site below you can bring 20kg meat per person
http://www.beaware.gc.ca/english/brirape.shtml
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 18, 2013, 06:59:41 PM
As per the site below you can bring 20kg meat per person
http://www.beaware.gc.ca/english/brirape.shtml
Cooked? Raw?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 18, 2013, 07:14:38 PM
Last time we were in Calgary we brought in food without a problem. We did declare everything.

However we bought all meat/chicken at the kosher store on Calgary before heading to Banff. They might not have a huge selection but it was enough. They also had a bakery where we bought fresh bread.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 18, 2013, 07:41:25 PM
Cooked? Raw?
Sounds like either
Must be marked and declared
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on July 19, 2013, 02:58:22 AM
Last time we were in Calgary we brought in food without a problem. We did declare everything.

However we bought all meat/chicken at the kosher store on Calgary before heading to Banff. They might not have a huge selection but it was enough. They also had a bakery where we bought fresh bread.
how long ago were you there? AFAIK that store closed down
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on July 19, 2013, 03:03:45 AM
@Dan many big stores have international agriculture cards to show their food is certified good to ship. It's worth asking whoever you get your meat from.

I got one from Raskins in CH for fish I brought into Lithuania.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 19, 2013, 09:33:14 AM
how long ago were you there? AFAIK that store closed down
About 10 years ago. Quite possible it closed down, but I'm sure there's a supermarket with a kosher section where the frum people of Calgary buy their kosher products.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: how on July 20, 2013, 02:46:47 PM
yes they sell manishevitz matzh ball mix and borsht etc.... The frum people I know know get their food from Toronto or Vancouver. Of course basic items with an OU or COR you will find anywhere
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 21, 2013, 12:39:55 AM
yes they sell manishevitz matzh ball mix and borsht etc.... The frum people I know know get their food from Toronto or Vancouver. Of course basic items with an OU or COR you will find anywhere
I find it hard to believe they don't sell kosher cheese, bread or meat anywhere in Calgary...
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on August 11, 2013, 03:54:23 PM
Mow when is the trip report comming?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 14, 2013, 02:13:18 AM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/33245
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on August 14, 2013, 02:17:48 AM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/33245
AMAZING PICS!! @??
Title: Fairmont Banff
Post by: Sammy12345 on September 15, 2013, 08:12:51 AM
I am looking to go to the Fairmont in Banff does anyone know how to get cheaper rates or possibly free nights? The prices are app 350 a night....
Leaving sept 29- oct 2
Title: Re: Fairmont Banff
Post by: Dan on September 15, 2013, 09:51:13 AM
Why specifically the Fairmont??
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Sammy12345 on September 15, 2013, 10:43:28 AM
I didn't really find any other nice hotels... I looked on Expedia.com the fairmont and rimrock were the nicest the others looked a little old. Do u have other suggestions?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 15, 2013, 11:00:50 AM
I didn't really find any other nice hotels... I looked on Expedia.com the fairmont and rimrock were the nicest the others looked a little old. Do u have other suggestions?
The Fairmont building is nice but the rooms and service are quite tired.

What about the Fairmont Lake Louise? Or any other hotel on a pretty lake like Lake Moraine, etc. Or along the icefields parkway.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: yosele on September 15, 2013, 06:22:27 PM
is it possible to rent a car in Banff, or if I want to rent a car, I must rent it in Calgary?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: dimples on September 15, 2013, 06:31:18 PM
I didn't really find any other nice hotels... I looked on Expedia.com the fairmont and rimrock were the nicest the others looked a little old. Do u have other suggestions?

The fairmont is quite old and pricey. There really arent nice hotels there at all. everything is rustic looking or small. even though we didnt need a minyan we ended up staying outside banff in ca because we wanted to be able to get out for shabbos and chose a small econolodge in canmore 30 minutes from banff that worked out nicely.

we forgot our lechem mishna and couldnt find anything whole with a hechsher except for apple flavoured pita or something of the sort. all the bagels were sliced and there is no kosher section in banff sobey's.

we did stay in the fairmont in calgary and it was okay.  seems like out there all the fairmonts are old and rustic. i remember lake louise fairmont being very hot in the downstairs lobby...
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 15, 2013, 06:55:20 PM
But at least Fairmont LL is in an awesome location.
Canmore leaves you really far from the icefields parkway.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: yosele on September 16, 2013, 12:06:02 PM
I have an option of going with a bus provided by the trip organizers, or rent and drive from Calgary to banff, what is recommended? Is it worth to drive myself and stop along the way? Is it possible to rent a car in banff and return in Calgary?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: yosele on September 29, 2013, 05:20:50 PM
which airline does it pay to post the miles earned by staying in fairmont?
possible to Aegaen? will it help for status?

any way to get better than presidents club?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 07, 2013, 10:59:55 PM
In case you were wondering about the acronyms...

Be Aware Nothing For Free
Just Another Special Place Earning Revenue.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: SLP on March 26, 2014, 12:37:08 AM
Here's a short TR I had posted a while back in another thread but it really belongs here:
Flights - into Calgary and out of Edmonton, 25k United from EWR, 1 stopover
We spent 3 days in Banff and surrounding areas, like Lake Louise and Morraine Lake. We went whitewater rafting one day which was amazing. We stayed in Canmore since it was cheaper than Banff.
We spent Shabbos in Calgary. We contacted the hachnosas orchim committee who placed us for Shabbos and arranged our meals. We met a lot of really great people and this was one of the highlights of our trip!
On Sunday, we drove the Icefields Parkway to Jasper. One of the members in the shul in Calgary gave us a list of recommended stops which was very helpful. We did the popular glacier tour - very cool!
Monday- Jasper
Tuesday - We drove to Edmonton to visit the West Edmonton Mall (we were a group of 3 girls!). We had free tickets to all the attractions, courtesy of a high school classmate who now lives in Edmonton - indoor water park, amusement park, bowling, mini golf, ropes course- and we had a blast! There are 2 Kosher places - a milchig restaurant in the mall and a bakery called Bliss.
A car is practically a must.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 01, 2014, 09:43:47 AM
What's the best prepaid SIM card to get for Banff? Coupla hundred MB of data, and some calling to the US would be nice as well.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 01, 2014, 10:45:28 AM
I've posted elsewhere about petro canada sim cards
http://mobility.petro-canada.ca/en/phones/537.aspx

Other option is wind mobile
https://www.windmobile.ca/plans-and-devices/plans/mobile-plan-details/phone-plan-wind-60
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on July 15, 2014, 06:17:03 PM
Looking for some info I would like to fly on points from NYC to edmonton or calgary do you have to fly with a stopover? I have Ba or united points which would be the better choice? Thanks
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on July 15, 2014, 06:21:31 PM
Looking for some info I would like to fly on points from NYC to edmonton or calgary do you have to fly with a stopover? I have Ba or united points which would be the better choice? Thanks

I flew through Chicago. A lot of flights either go through there or YYZ.

EWR also has a direct flight with United.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on July 15, 2014, 08:29:22 PM
I flew through Chicago. A lot of flights either go through there or YYZ.

EWR also has a direct flight with United.
Thanks
Title: MINYAN IN BANFF
Post by: Matovu on July 20, 2014, 06:39:28 PM
Hi

Planning a Trip to Paradise after Tisha B'Av.
We all read about the Kosher Food I can bring from The Pom People.
But;
I'm inclined to travel 1 and Half hour to 2 Hours to Calgary Chabad for Minyan.
Or staying near the shul and traveling back and forth to Banff everyday this long.

anyone planning a trip ?
here is something useful,
http://www.chabadalberta.org/media/pdf/824/pbnw8243365.pdf

Anyone going to be in the Area ?
even a half hour away... (would love some SPG hotels...)
let's get together and do this twice daily
Shachris and Mincha-Maariv.

We're a big community here.
can we pull this together ?
Is this only wishful thinking.


here's more from Chabad:
http://www.chabadalberta.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/105504/jewish/Tourist-Information.htm


Please reply
Thank You
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 20, 2014, 07:04:29 PM

Planning a Trip to Paradise after Tisha B'Av.


Flying Malaysian?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on July 20, 2014, 07:08:39 PM
Are there any SPG hotels in the area?
Title: Re: MINYAN IN BANFF
Post by: dovy2 on July 20, 2014, 07:22:56 PM
Hi

Planning a Trip to Paradise after Tisha B'Av.
We all read about the Kosher Food I can bring from The Pom People.
But;
I'm inclined to travel 1 and Half hour to 2 Hours to Calgary Chabad for Minyan.
Or staying near the shul and traveling back and forth to Banff everyday this long.

anyone planning a trip ?
here is something useful,
http://www.chabadalberta.org/media/pdf/824/pbnw8243365.pdf

Anyone going to be in the Area ?
even a half hour away... (would love some SPG hotels...)
let's get together and do this twice daily
Shachris and Mincha-Maariv.

We're a big community here.
can we pull this together ?
Is this only wishful thinking.


here's more from Chabad:
http://www.chabadalberta.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/105504/jewish/Tourist-Information.htm


Please reply
Thank You
Imy"h planning on going aug 20 -25
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on July 20, 2014, 07:28:24 PM
Hi

Planning a Trip to Paradise after Tisha B'Av.
We all read about the Kosher Food I can bring from The Pom People.
But;
I'm inclined to travel 1 and Half hour to 2 Hours to Calgary Chabad for Minyan.
Or staying near the shul and traveling back and forth to Banff everyday this long.

anyone planning a trip ?
here is something useful,
http://www.chabadalberta.org/media/pdf/824/pbnw8243365.pdf

Anyone going to be in the Area ?
even a half hour away... (would love some SPG hotels...)
let's get together and do this twice daily
Shachris and Mincha-Maariv.

We're a big community here.
can we pull this together ?
Is this only wishful thinking.


here's more from Chabad:
http://www.chabadalberta.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/105504/jewish/Tourist-Information.htm


Please reply
Thank You

I like the idea. I am hoping to make such a trip, I will be in touch if it works for me
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 20, 2014, 07:36:40 PM
Every hotel has tons of Jews this time of year. No need to drive hours every day.

Also you really want to be north of Banff.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on July 20, 2014, 07:59:04 PM
North of Banff, do you mean Jasper ?
What cities ?
And why north ?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 20, 2014, 09:11:47 PM

Are there any SPG hotels in the area?
I think the closest one is in Calgary. I paid $200 (250-50 Amex Travel Promo) for a one bedroom suite in the Solara Resort in Canmore. It a nice suite, full size kitchen and porch/deck that you can grill on.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 20, 2014, 09:15:29 PM

Hi

Planning a Trip to Paradise after Tisha B'Av.
We all read about the Kosher Food I can bring from The Pom People.
But;
I'm inclined to travel 1 and Half hour to 2 Hours to Calgary Chabad for Minyan.
Or staying near the shul and traveling back and forth to Banff everyday this long.

anyone planning a trip ?
here is something useful,
http://www.chabadalberta.org/media/pdf/824/pbnw8243365.pdf

Anyone going to be in the Area ?
even a half hour away... (would love some SPG hotels...)
let's get together and do this twice daily
Shachris and Mincha-Maariv.

We're a big community here.
can we pull this together ?
Is this only wishful thinking.


here's more from Chabad:
http://www.chabadalberta.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/105504/jewish/Tourist-Information.htm


Please reply
Thank You
FYI Shikah is like 10:00 PM so it should be easy to get a Mincha/Mariv at the end if the day. Enjoy it, the place is gorgeous ... Just came back. You might want to invest in a good camera before you go. I didn't and regret it :(
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on July 20, 2014, 10:57:11 PM
FYI Shikah is like 10:00 PM so it should be easy to get a Mincha/Mariv at the end if the day. Enjoy it, the place is gorgeous ... Just came back. You might want to invest in a good camera before you go. I didn't and regret it :(
How about a trip report?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 20, 2014, 11:15:14 PM
North of Banff, do you mean Jasper ?
What cities ?
And why north ?
Because everything you want to do is north of Banff. Read my TR.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on July 22, 2014, 01:04:21 PM
so no SPG
anything else decent ?
besides those cabin Logs... :)

Fairmont is too Expensive.

Did anyone here stay at anything else besides the Fairmont ?
Any recommendations ?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on August 03, 2014, 05:02:05 AM
So who's going to be with me in Lake Louise in a week ?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on August 07, 2014, 08:27:38 PM
So who's going to be with me in Lake Louise in a week ?

BUMP
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on August 08, 2014, 12:03:53 AM
Been there. It is AMAZING!! Good luck on that hike by the lake. Took me a couple hours and theres no lift down!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: dovy2 on August 13, 2014, 12:05:51 PM
having issues ordering kosher meal on my flights to calgary. they say its not available...
any workarounds?
flying first aa the way there, and first on us airways the way back
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: dovy2 on August 13, 2014, 11:25:04 PM
who can recommend a good budget-friendly hotel in banff (with a hot tub - mikva)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: solls108 on January 21, 2015, 11:03:41 PM
Anyone have destination report on Banff. Cant find any. Please send me link(s).
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: alpicone on January 21, 2015, 11:05:45 PM

Anyone have destination report on Banff. Cant find any. Please send me link(s).

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/33245
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Toronto on January 25, 2015, 09:57:29 PM
Anyone stay at the Rimrock resort? Is it a nice hotel?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on January 25, 2015, 11:37:00 PM
Seeing this thread while bracing the upcoming storm is like... no words can describe.
Thanks
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: solls108 on January 27, 2015, 10:48:48 AM
Whats the temp. like in the winter months there?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on January 27, 2015, 10:52:53 AM
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Banff+Canada+CAXX0023
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: solls108 on January 27, 2015, 11:38:14 AM
Not bad
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: elya on February 09, 2015, 06:28:22 PM
Anyone stay at the Rimrock resort? Is it a nice hotel?
We stayed at the rimrock last summer.  Really nice and pleasant hotel, though not as classy as the Fairmont. Was half the price though.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on February 11, 2015, 03:17:34 PM
What's the right amount of time to for Banff?
Make sense to fly into Edmonton and out of Calgary and do Edmonton->Jasper->Banff->Calgary?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on February 12, 2015, 08:51:47 AM
Bump
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 12, 2015, 09:06:25 AM
I got the feeling that whether you spend 3 days or 3 weeks there you'd find plenty to do.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on February 16, 2015, 04:29:49 PM
What's the weather like end of May beginning of June?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 16, 2015, 05:38:39 PM
What's the weather like end of May beginning of June?

http://bit.ly/1zjktiq
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on February 16, 2015, 05:50:07 PM
But he wants actual real life experience ::)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 16, 2015, 06:24:12 PM
One of my favorite questions on DDF
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on February 17, 2015, 12:01:23 PM
But he wants actual real life experience ::)
+1
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on February 17, 2015, 12:30:03 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 17, 2015, 02:59:04 PM
Couldn't have scripted this better.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on February 17, 2015, 03:02:08 PM
Guys chill out.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on February 17, 2015, 03:02:47 PM
What's better banff or Norway?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 17, 2015, 03:03:51 PM
What's better banff or Norway?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on February 17, 2015, 03:08:52 PM

Lol. tiebreaker?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on April 15, 2015, 01:53:38 PM
Anyone with recommendations where to stay in Jasper for one night?
The Fairmont is $380+ USD or can get a collection B ovations voucher for $332.
Too pricey.
I see Tonquin Inn or Malign lodge in the $150 CAD rate which is much more palatable. But I'm hesitant to book them...
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on April 15, 2015, 01:56:16 PM
Anyone with recommendations where to stay in Jasper for one night?
The Fairmont is $380+ USD or can get a collection B ovations voucher for $332.
Too pricey.
I see Tonquin Inn or Malign lodge in the $150 CAD rate which is much more palatable. But I'm hesitant to book them...
Buy a Fairmont night from someone?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on April 15, 2015, 01:58:01 PM
Against the T&C's...
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on April 15, 2015, 02:03:36 PM
Against the T&C's...
Right  :)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on April 15, 2015, 02:11:15 PM
I see Best western through Hotwire (99% sure) for $260 CAD all in
or $290 CAD with AAA rate, cancelable and I have $100 Best western gift card
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: travellove on May 04, 2015, 11:40:45 AM
This is my 1st time posting so please bear with me. I'm debating between staying at the Fairmont Banff or Fairmont Lake Louise. Staying in both isn't an option for me.
What are the pros and cons of each one?
Which one has nicer views?
Which one is more strategically located so as to have shorter distances to other destinations in the Rockies?
Anything else I should consider?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: travellove on May 05, 2015, 08:25:50 AM
No one has an opinion/answer?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on May 05, 2015, 08:44:25 AM
No one has an opinion/answer?
Wait a bit somebody should. Why don't you look on Tripadvisor though? Unless you're looking for Jewish info it has lots more to offer.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: travellove on May 07, 2015, 11:56:00 AM
Thanks. That's what I did. I asked on TripAdvisor
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on May 07, 2015, 12:55:26 PM
Thanks. That's what I did. I asked on TripAdvisor
That's the way to go. Curious what did they say?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: JunkYardUnz on May 07, 2015, 01:02:29 PM

No one has an opinion/answer?
I haven't stayed in either so I can't help you there. But you might want to check out when the Kosher Tour is going to be there, and in which one they will be staying. I think they change each year.

Regarding if you want to be there when they are, is up to you. :) I asked them last year if I can join their minyan they hmmed and hawed and said they rather I don't.

Enjoy it, it's a awesome place, I went last year and loved it. You might want to consider investing in a expensive camera before your trip. Cellphones just don't do justice.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 07, 2015, 01:21:07 PM
My lord, KMR is expensive. Just asked if I could pay for a single meal
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on May 07, 2015, 01:40:50 PM
My lord, KMR is expensive. Just asked if I could pay for a single meal
Yep take cost of trip multiply by 10=KMR.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Srsy on May 08, 2015, 07:27:32 AM
Is there any minyan around in August?  Or the closest minyan is Vancouver?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: dovy2 on May 08, 2015, 08:13:48 AM
Is there any minyan around in August?  Or the closest minyan is Vancouver?
Calgary is closer.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 08, 2015, 10:09:01 AM
My lord, KMR is expensive. Just asked if I could pay for a single meal
There response:
Quote from: kmrtours@aol.com
Im sorry, they do not do meals separate, it is a package deal of room and meals.
First of all who is "they" I thought I emailed KMR. Secondly, who still uses AOL?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on May 08, 2015, 12:53:40 PM
I stayed in both the Fairmont in Banff and Lake Louise we did not like the Fairmont in Banff they have many many different types of rooms and we were extremely unhappy with the one we got and the place is huge too busy for my taste.   I am sure that some of the better rooms are way nicer and we would have been happy but they were not available to us On the other hand we loved the Fairmont Lake Louise I don't remember what the views were like from each of the rooms but you can't go wrong with the view outside at Lake Louise it is spectacular.  I actually got up at sunrise which was quite early to go canoeing when the water is absolutely still and the reflections are best It is also closer to a lot of trips that you would do when in the area

 Hope this is helpful.  If I remember correctly they also provided us with a microwave upon request
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on May 08, 2015, 02:07:35 PM
There response:First of all who is "they" I thought I emailed KMR. Secondly, who still uses AOL?
LOL sounds like chasid at the helm.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on May 10, 2015, 04:51:47 PM

sounds like chasid at the helm.
sounds like you're a jerk.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on May 10, 2015, 05:56:44 PM
sounds like you're a jerk.
אמן -וכן למר.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: yitrap on May 10, 2015, 06:03:06 PM
sounds like you're a jerk.
well hello there!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on May 10, 2015, 06:16:42 PM
well hello there!
Hello to you too  ;).
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: travellove on May 11, 2015, 01:40:26 PM
That's the way to go. Curious what did they say?

They said that as far as views go CLL is better. For restaurants Banff is better. Since I don't care about the  restaurants I will be going to CLL
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: SrulyP on May 22, 2015, 01:33:18 PM
Hey I am trying to figure out the best way of getting to Banff from JFK, any ideas???
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 25, 2015, 09:37:05 AM
Hey I am trying to figure out the best way of getting to Banff from JFK, any ideas???

By plane, probably.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on May 25, 2015, 10:14:24 PM
By plane, probably.
I prefer helicopter actually. Scenery viewing is easier.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: elya on May 27, 2015, 12:44:13 AM
Hey I am trying to figure out the best way of getting to Banff from JFK, any ideas???
You would fly into Calgary, it's an hour drive from there. (gorgeous drive if I may add.) there are direct flights from NYC.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: JunkYardUnz on June 03, 2015, 07:01:11 AM

You would fly into Calgary, it's an hour drive from there. (gorgeous drive if I may add.) there are direct flights from NYC.

When I was looking last summer the only direct flight from Newark was Air Canada and they only had 1 or 2 flights a day. United makes you stop in Chicago, but that's probably your best option. Long story but I actually flew direct out of Windsor Ontario  (39/45 min from Detroit).
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on June 04, 2015, 07:22:09 PM
Is it a problem to bring food into canada?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 04, 2015, 08:22:31 PM
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/food/information-for-consumers/travellers/what-can-i-bring-into-canada-/eng/1389648337546/1389648516990
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on June 04, 2015, 08:51:55 PM
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/food/information-for-consumers/travellers/what-can-i-bring-into-canada-/eng/1389648337546/1389648516990
thanks
is it the same when flying / driving?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 05, 2015, 12:14:04 PM
Yes
I've declared (when I was within the limit) and they didn't even look or ask about it
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on June 05, 2015, 12:29:32 PM
Yes
I've declared (when I was within the limit) and they didn't even look or ask about it
thanks
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on June 15, 2015, 10:04:08 PM
This is my first post so please forgive me for any mistakes.

The Columbia glacier / walk offers 10% off to AAA / CAA members which comes out a little cheaper than the combo package. However they offer 25% off after 3 PM. There is more than enough time to enjoy both after 3 as the glacier trip takes 1 hour 20 minutes round trip. Actually the glacier trips get emptier after around 3:30 since people want some time to drive back as they are 90 minutes away from both lake Louise or jasper.

I also very much enjoyed the Parker ridge hike up on the icefields pkwy. Views I didn't see anyplace else.

Flights to Calgary from NYC are either 8 am air Canada or 6 pm westjet. AA & delta sell space on westjet & prices can differ between the 3 on the same flight. Edmonton has no direct flights from NYC.

Your choice if you want long days, I went last week (June) & it got dark after 10pm. If you want you can push in 3 activities in a day.
Jasper zman is around 15-20 min later than Banff. Rabeinu tam zman in jasper was around 11:30 pm & you can still the sun from under the mountains later (שקיעה הנראת ).

I stayed most of the days in Jasper (flew thru Edmonton). It's a smaller town than Banff with less shops & not so touristy. banfff is also a little more developed with Johnson canyon paved trails etc.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on June 15, 2015, 10:06:27 PM
Forgot to add about meats etc.
I declared that I have meats etc & they didn't ask anything. On the way back I declared vegetables & fruits & they told me that tomatoes & peppers are not ok to bring back from Canada. Most others are ok.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 16, 2015, 12:51:23 AM
The vegetables that you are allowed to bring from Canada to the states can change daily

Can you post your itinerary?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on June 16, 2015, 11:31:22 AM
I think I made a mistake. They did ask me from where the meat is which was all USA. But they didn't open suitcases or check anything. Didn't ask about fish & dairy products, which are under the same question on the form.

We did severel things that you can do locally in the Catskills too, so what we did may not be relevant to anyone else. Yes I did spend some extra.

We didn't want to start vacation by waking up 4:30 Sunday morning so we didn't take the 8am direct to Calgary. If anyone does & pays for it, on my date you could buy a hidden city ticket to kamloops. you get your bags for customs at Calgary, so checking bags is not an issue.

Flew to Edmonton from LGA thru Toronto, stopped at west Edmonton mall which is the largest mall in North America. Most stores including the kosher cholov Yisroel cafe Levi close at 6 but the mall is open later, has some nice attractions. It takes about 25 min from airport to yellowhead highway 16, from where it's a straight drive to Jasper. You pass a few small towns which have signs for speed cameras but otherwise I didn't see a single police office on the road (allow 3 or 4 hours on the yellowhead depending on stops & driving speed). We stopped in Hinton for gas & some groceries.
Right after Hinton there are signs for scenic road to Alaska, it's a 36 hour drive if you want.

Monday we did Jasper tram. Terrific views from summit,  but only do it if you plan to walk to summit (allow around 2 hours rt from upper tram statio ). Weather up on the mountain can change fast. It was really windy & we turned back to gift shop on summit to buy a hoodie($50 can) so maybe take along 1. On the top & the way back the winds calmed down. You can hike up instead of taking tram, they told me around 3 hours for the way up until the upper tram station.
You can buy a package of whitewater rafting + tram for 15% off from any rafting outfit or at a package window at the tram. They didn't know how to process it so they gave me 15% & called the rafting place to give me too.
We then did horseback riding (they walk really slow as both Banff & Jasper are within national parks & this is what they allow). The good thing about going in June was that both at the horseback & rafting we were the only 2 people so we got private rides).
We ate something & went to maligne canyon. on the Johnson canyon in Banff you get to walk at the bottom & maligne only on top. Johnson is paved maligne is not. But you still get to enjoy the canyon, waterfalls & views. We ended the day around 9 pm. (Both canyons are free, as are all lakes & hikes. You pay for them with the park entrance fee)

Tuesday we did whitewater rafting. In order to get to see both ways of the icefields parkway we drove Down to the Columbia icefields (90 min drive each way) did the glacier & walkway. Then drove back.
Wednesday morning we packed up, went to Jasper down to fil up on gas & buy some souvenirs. We hit the icefields parkway and did both falls, horseshoe lake (went in the water a little off the official beach), and Parker ridge (recommended, allow more than 2 hours, was muddy & snowy in June). Saw bears on road. And some small stops for views)

Lake Louise has just 2 or 3 hotels & it was cheaper driving down to Banff (40 min each way) but not sure if it was the best decision.
Stayed 1 night in Banff, did Johnson canyon & back to lake Morraine & Louise. You can only walk on 1 side of Morraine & back (allow an hour). Walked a little around Louise but was already too exhausted for longer walks. Went back thru the bow river parkway instead of the 1 for some wildlife views.
If you come from Banff to Johnson canyon you can make a right from Johnson canyon to get to the 1 north to lake lousie instead of driving back. That section of the bow river from Banff to Johnson canton canyon is closed from 8 pm until the morning.

We drove down to Calgary for the last flight of the day to Vancouver for shabbos. (Drive takes 2 hours from lake Louise, 1 hour 20 min from Banff). Paid $100 drop fee for car rental


Direct flights from Calgary to NYC are daytime only & arrive too late to take them on Friday. You can take a red eye to Chicago Toronto Montreal Etc & continue to NYC

If you don't drive there are transportation options via bus & rail to both Banff & Jasper & most Attractions either pickup from hotel or there are tour bus operators that would take you, but these options are not cheaper than renting a car.







Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 16, 2015, 01:29:55 PM
Thank you so much for taking the time.

For maligne canyon: which bridges did you walk? I was thinking about parking at bridge six and trying to hitch a ride to bridge 1 so I we could walk only one way - do you think this is doable?
Did you go to maligne lake?

For our second day, we will be driving from Jasper to Lake Louise on the Ice Fields parkway. What should we prioritize on this drive? Trying to figure out when to schedule our ice walk - how much time should we factor in from the time we leave Jasper?

Third day - Lake Louise, Morraine Lake and Johnston Canyon. Is this too much?

Fourth Day: Banff area - what should we do?


Thanks for your help!
 
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on June 16, 2015, 03:48:06 PM
Thank you so much for taking the time.

For maligne canyon: which bridges did you walk? I was thinking about parking at bridge six and trying to hitch a ride to bridge 1 so I we could walk only one way - do you think this is doable?
Did you go to maligne lake?

For our second day, we will be driving from Jasper to Lake Louise on the Ice Fields parkway. What should we prioritize on this drive? Trying to figure out when to schedule our ice walk - how much time should we factor in from the time we leave Jasper?

Third day - Lake Louise, Morraine Lake and Johnston Canyon. Is this too much?

Fourth Day: Banff area - what should we do?


Thanks for your help!

I didn't even try to hitch so I can't write about that. However most of the way back you can walk on a higher trail which doesn't require so many steps & walking on rocks just a straight walk which is easier.

I didn't go to the maligne lake.

I didn't do all possible hikes on the way to be able to tell what is better than others. Choose what you think is best. http://icefieldsparkway.com/highlights/points-of-interest will show you almost all stops. Some of them are just stops on the road. Some are longer stops.
You can click there on hikes but from hikes I only did Parker ridge. 2 + hours.
However this is a little guide: the actual duration takes 3 hours. Colombia icefields is right in the middle, 90 min from Jasper or Banff. The icefields trip takes 1 hour 20 min the skywalk is a 7-8 min ride & you can stay as long as you like but figure 45 min to an hour. Add some time for walking to building from parking lot, lines, etc.
(You can buy tickets online to save time there) if you plan to do both it will take at least 3 hours.

Any longer stop (eg both falls) takes 45 min to an hour as you drive off the road, park, Strech, walk, take in the view, nosh, etc

For hikes figure a min of 20 min per km or 30 min per mile. Double than usual to allow for steepness, unpaved trails, resting, etc

I doubt you are interested, but you can even stay overnight at the icefields, the buildings looks decent I don't know about the rooms (it's in the same visitor center building)

Some notes about the way: most of the way there is no cell phone service. There is no running sewer between Jasper & lake lousie besides the icefields. Just holes in the ground. (It's not so bad as it sounds, they do clean them out)

You can do Johnson & the 2 lakes in 1 day but it all depends on how many trails you want to do & how long your day is. Johnson canyon I did the paved part until the higher falls but they have unpaved trails around the area in the woods. Lake Morraine I didn't see any trails besides the walk on 1 side but lake Louise does have options for longer hikes in the area.

There are so many trails & hiking options around, but basically it depends on how much walking or biking you want to do. You should be able to find the trail maps online. I saw people biking the icefield parkway.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 16, 2015, 04:26:34 PM
So if I leave Jasper ~ 10 AM.
90 minutes for the drive to the icefields.
Stops at both waterfalls will add an hour.
Does it make sense to make reservations for 1 o'clock?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on June 16, 2015, 04:31:42 PM
So if I leave Jasper ~ 10 AM.
90 minutes for the drive to the icefields.
Stops at both waterfalls will add an hour.
Does it make sense to make reservations for 1 o'clock?

I think so. Makes sense.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 16, 2015, 04:32:16 PM
Thanks for your help.

Did you do the Banff Gondola? what about the river cruise?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on June 16, 2015, 04:57:09 PM
Thanks for your help.

Did you do the Banff Gondola? what about the river cruise?

No I did the Jasper one. I would also think that if there is an option to walk up to the summit do it.
No river cruise I don't care for being on a boat with a bunch of other people who I don't know.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on June 16, 2015, 05:05:36 PM
You can rent a canoe and / or pedal boats on a lot of lakes however I think most lakes don't allow motorized boats & the few who do it's only the scheduled tours, no private boats.

Hours do vary. Lake Morraine I think the last boat out is around 4.
Jasper park lodge has boats on lac beauvert until 7 or 8 so Check before.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 16, 2015, 05:28:22 PM
Thanks. Last day I will do the Banff gondola. Question is whether it's worth it to also do the cruise.

Itinerary is as follows:
Sunday: Arrive early in Edmonton. Meet some friends for an early lunch in West Edmonton mall.
Drive to maligne canyon - park by bridge 6. see if i can hitch up to bridge 1, otherwise just do the whole hike.
Overnight in Jasper

Monday: Drive the Columbia IceFields parkway.
Stop at Athabasca Falls and Sunwapta Falls.
IceFields Glacier Skywalk and Glacier Adventure .
Depending on time of day/how we are feeling Parker Ridge/Bow Lake
Overnight at Fairmont LL

Tuesday: Lake Louise, Morraine Lake and Johnston Canyon
Overnight at Fairmont LL

Wednesday: Banff gondola and peak (depending on timing, Banff Lake Cruise) and head to Calgary for late afternoon flight.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on June 16, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
Thanks. Last day I will do the Banff gondola. Question is whether it's worth it to also do the cruise.

Itinerary is as follows:
Sunday: Arrive early in Edmonton. Meet some friends for an early lunch in West Edmonton mall.
Drive to maligne canyon - park by bridge 6. see if i can hitch up to bridge 1, otherwise just do the whole hike.
Overnight in Jasper

Monday: Drive the Columbia IceFields parkway.
Stop at Athabasca Falls and Sunwapta Falls.
IceFields Glacier Skywalk and Glacier Adventure .
Depending on time of day/how we are feeling Parker Ridge/Bow Lake
Overnight at Fairmont LL

Tuesday: Lake Louise, Morraine Lake and Johnston Canyon
Overnight at Fairmont LL

Wednesday: Banff gondola and peak (depending on timing, Banff Lake Cruise) and head to Calgary for late afternoon flight.

Looks great.

A quick google search tells me that I'm wrong & lake Morraine does have trails. But you cannot circle the lake
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 19, 2015, 01:00:23 AM
https://www.groupon.com/deals/rockies-heli-tours-canada-inc-1-5
$300 with the current Groupon deal. Should I do it?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on June 20, 2015, 10:14:39 PM
Don't miss the stop at Peyto lake.  It is a short walk and very easy to photograph.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on June 24, 2015, 04:04:52 PM
When is the best time of year to visit Banff?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 24, 2015, 04:19:21 PM
Anyone with recommendations where to stay in Jasper for one night?
The Fairmont is $380+ USD or can get a collection B ovations voucher for $332.
Too pricey.
I see Tonquin Inn or Malign lodge in the $150 CAD rate which is much more palatable. But I'm hesitant to book them...
I had reserved at the Whistler's Inn for 1 night at $228 CAD all in.
Checked today and the Fairmont was $207 CAD all in. Canceled the Whistler's inn reservation and booked the Fairmont.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 24, 2015, 09:15:29 PM
Nice.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: fishcakes on July 04, 2015, 10:54:11 PM
i was just in banff this week, a few small pointers. we went moutain biking in canmore at the nordic centre. it is an olympic faciltiy with many different trails, we had an amazing time there.

do not bother with the gondola in banff it is a waste of money, unless you are planning on hiking from there up to the summit.

we stayed in the glacier view inn at the columbia ice fields, they did not have air conditioning. i need not say anymore. but i will, it was very overpriced, and it was incredibly hot, you probably wont be able to see the glacier from your window anyway. its not worth it, your better off staying in lake louise or banff or canmore.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 04, 2015, 11:09:14 PM
I thought the Banff gondola was amazing. There is a boardwalk which is a 20 minute walk to the neighboring peak. The views are awesome. Even saw a bunch of mountain goats up there. With every penny.

Definitely wouldn't stay at the ice fields. There is nowhere near enough activity there to justify spending two days in the area. I highly recommend the itinerary we did (or reverse) which involves flying into Edmonton and out of Calgary. This way you drive the ice fields only once. Or stay a night in Jasper so you don't have to drive to and from in a single day.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on July 04, 2015, 11:50:33 PM


we stayed in the glacier view inn at the columbia ice fields, they did not have air conditioning.

A lot of hotels in the Canadian Rockies don't have air condition.
There are more hotels with wifi than with air conditioning ...
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: travellove on July 05, 2015, 05:47:07 PM
i was just in banff this week, a few small pointers. we went moutain biking in canmore at the nordic centre. it is an olympic faciltiy with many different trails, we had an amazing time there.

do not bother with the gondola in banff it is a waste of money, unless you are planning on hiking from there up to the summit.

we stayed in the glacier view inn at the columbia ice fields, they did not have air conditioning. i need not say anymore. but i will, it was very overpriced, and it was incredibly hot, you probably wont be able to see the glacier from your window anyway. its not worth it, your better off staying in lake louise or banff or canmore.

Fairmont Lake Louise my room (suite) also didn't have air condition
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 13, 2015, 11:20:23 PM
My TR:
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=53540.0
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: HP58 on July 29, 2015, 11:00:46 AM
Being in Edmonton for Shabbos. Does anybody know which (if any)of the hotels are close to a shul?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on October 24, 2015, 11:21:14 PM
Has anybody been to Banff thanksgiving time? I know its off season, just wondering how many things will be open and if its worth going at that time.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on October 25, 2015, 10:41:20 PM
Being in Edmonton for Shabbos. Does anybody know which (if any)of the hotels are close to a shul?
Once looked into it, I don't think there was anything closer than a few mile walk. If you find please report back.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on October 25, 2015, 11:25:32 PM
Once looked into it, I don't think there was anything closer than a few mile walk. If you find please report back.
The good news is he probably has an answer for you already, being that he went 3 months ago.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on October 25, 2015, 11:44:40 PM
I live in Calgary, an hour and a half drive from Banff. The community loves to host people for Shabbos, but we sometimes have so many offers we don't know what to do with everyone. Check the shul's website (HOJMI) for who is in charge of hospitality. It is a warm community and we all like to help. I have a destination guide written by a member of the community. Ask me for it in shul :)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: lunatic on October 26, 2015, 12:01:59 AM
I live in Calgary, an hour and a half drive from Banff. The community loves to host people for Shabbos, but we sometimes have so many offers we don't know what to do with everyone. Check the shul's website (HOJMI) for who is in charge of hospitality. It is a warm community and we all like to help. I have a destination guide written by a member of the community. Ask me for it in shul :)
Can you post a copy
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on October 26, 2015, 12:11:28 AM
I live in Calgary, an hour and a half drive from Banff. The community loves to host people for Shabbos, but we sometimes have so many offers we don't know what to do with everyone. Check the shul's website (HOJMI) for who is in charge of hospitality. It is a warm community and we all like to help. I have a destination guide written by a member of the community. Ask me for it in shul :)
Welcome to the forums
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on October 26, 2015, 12:28:08 AM
I live in Calgary, an hour and a half drive from Banff. The community loves to host people for Shabbos, but we sometimes have so many offers we don't know what to do with everyone. Check the shul's website (HOJMI) for who is in charge of hospitality. It is a warm community and we all like to help. I have a destination guide written by a member of the community. Ask me for it in shul :)
Welcome! Thanks for posting. I would love to see the destination guide as well.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 03:32:53 PM
Maybe you can post a link in the Wiki?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on October 26, 2015, 03:51:37 PM
Maybe you can post a link in the Wiki?
What wiki?  :P
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
What wiki?  :P
The wiki that will be added with the guide.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on October 26, 2015, 10:54:29 PM
http://hojmi.org/visiting_calgary.php

I just want to get permission from the author of the destination list before I put it on the internet.
Title: Kosher in Calgary
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on October 26, 2015, 11:03:01 PM
We have a kosher cafe in the JCC on 90th ave SW. It is not cholov yisroel or bishul yisroel, but is certified by the ABK, an offshoot of the BCK. You can buy many Kosher products from Sobeys in Bridlewood:

1607 90 Ave SW, Calgary, AB T2V 4V7

They carry Heimishe products, cholov yisroel, meats, etc. and ave a pretty decent selection. It is a 15 minute drive from the Jewish community.

Superstore just off McLoed Trail also carries some meat, depending on whether or not they are in stock.

The Carriage House bakery carries the same Kosher certification as Karen's.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 26, 2015, 11:08:01 PM
What is bigger. The Calgary Jewish community or Edmonton's?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on October 27, 2015, 02:23:30 PM
Edmonton
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on October 27, 2015, 02:35:07 PM
Calgary has a small frum community, maybe 100 families at best. We have one shul and one Chabad, each with a healthy (10-15 person) minyan during the week. During the winter, Mincha is early enough that we only offer Maariv. Edmonton has a different character because they have a decent sized kollel and a number of Jewish entities are sponsored by a generous donor. There is a Kosher pizza shop in the West Edmonton Mall, and there is a Kosher supermarket. Edmonton also hosts the Bliss Bakery, all parve (and they make great donuts :)).
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on November 01, 2015, 01:12:44 AM
I forgot to mention, it starts to get really cold this time of year, and by the end of November, Lake Louise is probably frozen. temperatures go down to as low as -20, but it can really be unpredictable. On a typical day, temperatures can go from -20 to 50 in a few hours, depending on a whether phenomenon known as a Chinook.  Sometimes a full week can be warm in the winter, but I don't know how it is in the mountains. Consider revising your list of attractions in case of snow or frozen conditions.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on November 01, 2015, 01:07:04 AM
I forgot to mention, it starts to get really cold this time of year, and by the end of November, Lake Louise is probably frozen. temperatures go down to as low as -20, but it can really be unpredictable. On a typical day, temperatures can go from -20 to 50 in a few hours, depending on a whether phenomenon known as a Chinook.  Sometimes a full week can be warm in the winter, but I don't know how it is in the mountains. Consider revising your list of attractions in case of snow or frozen conditions.
Are all of the winter attractions (ie - skiing, ice skating etc) usually open by that time (late November/early December)?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on November 01, 2015, 02:23:20 AM
Anyone have the email of general manager at fairmont lake louise?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on November 01, 2015, 07:54:54 PM
It's probably not cold enough consistently to turn the lake into an ice rink. Right now, we are averaging 15 degrees at night at lake louise, 25 in calgary, datlytime in the 50's. Idk how things will be at the end of the month
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on November 01, 2015, 08:03:46 PM
Ski season is November to May
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on November 01, 2015, 08:39:37 PM
Is there anything of interest to do near Calgary? Im arriving in Calgary thurs afternoon and being back in Calgary for Shabbos so I am uncertain if its worth driving down to Banff for such a short period of time
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: elya on November 02, 2015, 01:24:47 AM
Is there anything of interest to do near Calgary? Im arriving in Calgary thurs afternoon and being back in Calgary for Shabbos so I am uncertain if its worth driving down to Banff for such a short period of time
Banff is an hour's drive from Calgary.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on November 02, 2015, 09:25:03 PM
Is there anything of interest to do near Calgary? Im arriving in Calgary thurs afternoon and being back in Calgary for Shabbos so I am uncertain if its worth driving down to Banff for such a short period of time
Check out Olympic Park (cop) they have a luge, all the downhill stuff, ice rink, etc. Callaway park is in the same neighborhood. It is a small amusement park. If you arrive in the early afternoon, try hiking in Canmore/Kananaskis
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on November 02, 2015, 10:11:07 PM
Check out Olympic Park (cop) they have a luge, all the downhill stuff, ice rink, etc. Callaway park is in the same neighborhood. It is a small amusement park. If you arrive in the early afternoon, try hiking in Canmore/Kananaskis
Thank you
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on November 15, 2015, 01:05:18 PM
Check out Olympic Park (cop) they have a luge, all the downhill stuff, ice rink, etc. Callaway park is in the same neighborhood. It is a small amusement park. If you arrive in the early afternoon, try hiking in Canmore/Kananaskis
calaway park is closed until May. Would COP have what to do in late November? Also, will there be hiking trails in Canmore/kananaskis open at that time?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on November 17, 2015, 08:04:21 PM
Olympic Park is open year round. Trails in Canmore depend on the snow, will probably be open. Canmore is a bit before the mountains.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on November 17, 2015, 08:10:52 PM
It's been pretty warm all week and the snow on the ground is all melted. It's hard to imagine that in a week, the grassi lakes will be frozen, grotto canyon unpassable, or the trails so snowy you just can't go. Worst case, you'll buy a pair of snowshoes grom the local Marshals
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on November 19, 2015, 01:58:16 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on November 22, 2015, 01:55:03 AM
Calgary has been unseasonably warm this November, but skiing conditions this year are best ever out west. Everything is open except a few places in BC, and there is record snowfall, all powder. Rent equipment near COP and take it to Kananaskis on day one. Banff will be spectacular.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on November 22, 2015, 02:39:45 AM
Calgary has been unseasonably warm this November, but skiing conditions this year are best ever out west. Everything is open except a few places in BC, and there is record snowfall, all powder. Rent equipment near COP and take it to Kananaskis on day one. Banff will be spectacular.
Great! I can't rent equipment by Kananaskis? Why rent by COP?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on November 22, 2015, 02:43:14 AM
Also, do you any info about the Lake Louise World Cup? I just found out it's going to be next weekend and I will be in that area on Sunday
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on November 22, 2015, 01:27:19 PM
Don't know abt world cup, could be there are rental places there, just know there is one near COP which is on the way
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: wayfe on December 06, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Anybody visit the Keyhole Springs? How accessable are they?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on December 06, 2015, 03:19:08 PM
Anybody visit the Keyhole Springs? How accessable are they?
http://forums.clubtread.com/27-british-columbia/49609-pebble-creek-keyhole-hot-springs-via-lilwatakwa7-trail.html
According to this it should be accessible although its a 5 mile hike
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on February 10, 2016, 12:26:55 AM
cheapest hotel with points in the Banff area?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on February 10, 2016, 12:37:10 AM
I think only points hotel in Banff is the Fairmont. Only other choice would be residence inn in Canmore
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: sams on February 10, 2016, 03:01:50 AM
Quality inn 15 min away if have choice points
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: elya on February 10, 2016, 03:38:42 AM
I think only points hotel in Banff is the Fairmont. Only other choice would be residence inn in Canmore
I understand this dosent exactly answer your question,

But the Rimrock is a really nice and very decently priced hotel, its about a 4 minute drve from the Fairmont Banff springs.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on March 29, 2016, 12:06:55 PM
Has anyone stayed at any of these hotels? Any reviews?

Douglas Fir Resorts
Banff Aspen Lodge
Stoneridge Mountain
Bear and Bison Country

TIA
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on April 14, 2016, 12:00:30 PM
I'm thinking of possibly going to Banff in July. I know I can read through the entire thread but figured I'd ask a couple of quickies. Are there and Marriots on this trip? I have some free nights and have points. A little bit of SPG. Also, can it work for Shabbos too? Like minyan, food, etc. I also was told to fly from NY straight to Calgary. Correct?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on April 14, 2016, 12:57:33 PM
I'm thinking of possibly going to Banff in July. I know I can read through the entire thread but figured I'd ask a couple of quickies. Are there and Marriots on this trip? I have some free nights and have points. A little bit of SPG. Also, can it work for Shabbos too? Like minyan, food, etc. I also was told to fly from NY straight to Calgary. Correct?
Only Marriot is http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/yyckv-delta-lodge-at-kananaskis/ which is pretty far from Banff.
Way I would do the trip is to fly into Calgary. Stay two nights in Banff (Fairmont). One night in Lake Louise (Fairmont). One night in Jasper. Spend shabbos in Edmonton. Fly out Sunday
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on April 14, 2016, 01:18:50 PM
Only Marriot is http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/yyckv-delta-lodge-at-kananaskis/ which is pretty far from Banff.
Way I would do the trip is to fly into Calgary. Stay two nights in Banff (Fairmont). One night in Lake Louise (Fairmont). One night in Jasper. Spend shabbos in Edmonton. Fly out Sunday
Thanks for the comeback. If we decide on the trip, if you don't mind, I'll PM you for more info. Are the Fairmonts expensive? Have to fly to Edmonton from Calgary? Thanks
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on April 14, 2016, 01:22:07 PM
Thanks for the comeback. If we decide on the trip, if you don't mind, I'll PM you for more info. Are the Fairmonts expensive? Have to fly to Edmonton from Calgary? Thanks
Sure, but you're better off asking here so everyone can see.
Fairmonts are expensive, but that's why there are CC free nights.
No, the point is to drive Calgary -> Banff -> Lake Louise -> Jasper -> Edmonton. Look at a map, it will be much clearer.

https://goo.gl/maps/VCWkESvkxEP2
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on April 14, 2016, 01:25:52 PM
Sure, but you're better off asking here so everyone can see.
Fairmonts are expensive, but that's why there are CC free nights.
No, the point is to drive Calgary -> Banff -> Lake Louise -> Jasper -> Edmonton. Look at a map, it will be much clearer.

https://goo.gl/maps/VCWkESvkxEP2
Thanks
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on May 09, 2016, 12:06:12 AM
Calgary also has a nice (small) Jewish community that does host guests.  We have a local store that carries Kosher items, and a small Kosher cafe.  You can also work the trip the other way - go straight to Jasper, then spend your time coming back to Calgary. The drive is gorgeous either way. Last time we went, there was no itinerary. We just stopped by all the brown signs on the highway.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on May 17, 2016, 10:53:13 AM
Can we expect a minyan in banff the weekend of Aug 20 2016?
I didnt see any official minyan on godaven.....
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on May 21, 2016, 11:49:40 PM
Just as an FYI:
I found an approved brg  opportunity for the holiday inn in Canmore for the date of August 17-18 standard room. Lower rate avail at happy rooms.
More Dates might be available
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on May 23, 2016, 11:00:16 AM
Just as an FYI:
I found an approved brg  opportunity for the holiday inn in Canmore for the date of August 17-18 standard room. Lower rate avail at happy rooms.
More Dates might be available
The dates of August 18-19 Work as well.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on May 25, 2016, 09:16:16 AM
Does anyone know if theres anyway to get kosher food sent to the Banff Fairmont? Alternatively, does anyone have recent experience brining frozen food over the border?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 25, 2016, 10:07:52 PM
Does anyone know if theres anyway to get kosher food sent to the Banff Fairmont? Alternatively, does anyone have recent experience brining frozen food over the border?
I've brought food countless times over the border. I declare it and usually no one even noticed I've declared it. My most recent trip the guard at baggage claim exit asked me what was in the box, I said meat, it's on my declaration form. She started to say i can't bring neat and I explained to her that I was below the limit. She didn't really to argue with me so she just let me go.
You are allowed to bring a certain amount of meat (I think 20KG/person, you can look it up). It needs to be marked that it's sources in the US
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on May 26, 2016, 03:43:04 PM
So she started to give you trouble then just decided to forget it?

Can you bring any meat as long as its under 20KG/person and marked that its from the US?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 27, 2016, 04:57:19 PM
from http://www.inspection.gc.ca/food/information-for-consumers/travellers/what-can-i-bring-into-canada-/eng/1389648337546/1389648516990#a1

Meat and poultry products (for example, jerky, sausages, deli meats and patties, fois gras)

up to 20 kilograms per person
packages must have identifying marks, indicating what the product is
proof of country of origin may be required


Meat and poultry: fresh, frozen and chilled

up to 20 kilograms per person
one turkey per person
packages must have identifying marks, indicating what the product is
proof of country of origin may be required
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on May 29, 2016, 02:15:25 PM
It is always cheaper to bring meat over the border, and they never give us trouble. We just bring one 50 lb bag frozen the night before, it works even for double stopover flights. The bags sometimes get inspected, and it's always ok, just vary the types of things in the bag, some meat, some chicken, some cheese. If it's too much trouble, just buy it all at Sobeys in Bridlewood before you head out to the mountains. They have a good selection.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on May 29, 2016, 02:17:30 PM
Can we expect a minyan in banff the weekend of Aug 20 2016?
I didnt see any official minyan on godaven.....
No Minyanim in Banff, but you can stay here in Calgary for Shabbos.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: mordechain on May 29, 2016, 06:01:32 PM
Does anyone know if theres anyway to get kosher food sent to the Banff Fairmont? Alternatively, does anyone have recent experience brining frozen food over the border?
The Kosher Gourmet (meat and takeout) in Toronto packs up food and ships. Pretty decent stuff.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on May 31, 2016, 01:22:45 PM
Can we expect a minyan in banff the weekend of Aug 20 2016?
I didnt see any official minyan on godaven.....

Looks like Someone (you ?) started a temporary minyan on godaven & there is another 1 in jasper that already has 5 people
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on June 01, 2016, 07:34:50 AM
The Kosher Gourmet (meat and takeout) in Toronto packs up food and ships. Pretty decent stuff.

Thanks, I'll look into it. As of now just planning to shlep food from here with us, but if we can avoid that all the better.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on June 02, 2016, 11:54:39 AM
Looks like Someone (you ?) started a temporary minyan on godaven & there is another 1 in jasper that already has 5 people
I didnt start it but its a good idea... I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on June 15, 2016, 01:32:10 PM
I've brought food countless times over the border. I declare it and usually no one even noticed I've declared it. My most recent trip the guard at baggage claim exit asked me what was in the box, I said meat, it's on my declaration form. She started to say i can't bring neat and I explained to her that I was below the limit. She didn't really to argue with me so she just let me go.
You are allowed to bring a certain amount of meat (I think 20KG/person, you can look it up). It needs to be marked that it's sources in the US

When you bring meat across the border do you have it all labelled with the country of origin? Our best option now is to bring food from Pomegranate and they will write on the label the meat is from the US but will not put on an official notice. Do you think that would pose a problem?

I looked in the the Kosher Gourmet in TO and they wanted $100 just to ship the food to Banff.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on June 15, 2016, 04:08:58 PM
When you bring meat across the border do you have it all labelled with the country of origin? Our best option now is to bring food from Pomegranate and they will write on the label the meat is from the US but will not put on an official notice. Do you think that would pose a problem?

I looked in the the Kosher Gourmet in TO and they wanted $100 just to ship the food to Banff.

Printed on the label should be OK
IME They didn't even ask or check

For overnight shipping with ice $100 is a decent charge
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on June 15, 2016, 04:33:43 PM
Printed on the label should be OK
IME They didn't even ask or check

For overnight shipping with ice $100 is a decent charge

Great, thanks!

I agree not a bad charge, but for the small amount of food we need (only a few meals worth) I would rather just bring it from NY.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on June 17, 2016, 04:03:31 PM
They get annoyed when they see cardboard boxes. Bring the meat in a gym bag and you won't have a problem.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on June 21, 2016, 11:18:36 AM
Good to know, thanks. I plan to bring it in a small cooler bag packed inside my checked luggage.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on June 23, 2016, 11:54:02 AM
Good to know, thanks. I plan to bring it in a small cooler bag packed inside my checked luggage.
I had no issue bringing in food in my checked bags
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Zc on July 12, 2016, 11:44:31 PM
any idea of where to stay for Shabbos (including meals) in the Canadian Rockies for a couple without kids?

on the Calgary Chabad Website they said they weren't hosting anyone this year (posted May 2016). Anywhere else to stay in Calgary for Shabbos? Or how about Banff for Shabbos?

Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 13, 2016, 09:39:07 AM
any idea of where to stay for Shabbos (including meals) in the Canadian Rockies for a couple without kids?

on the Calgary Chabad Website they said they weren't hosting anyone this year (posted May 2016). Anywhere else to stay in Calgary for Shabbos? Or how about Banff for Shabbos?
Edmonton?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on July 13, 2016, 09:50:37 AM
Message RabbiGoldenberg. He mentioned previously that the Calgary community will host guests.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on July 13, 2016, 11:17:50 AM
Is it too cold already in August to go to Banff (after Tisha Bav)? I saw somewhere said July the's time
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on July 13, 2016, 01:22:38 PM
Is it too cold already in August to go to Banff (after Tisha Bav)? I saw somewhere said July the's time

You'll be fine to go in August. It should not be that cold by then.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on July 13, 2016, 04:52:04 PM
You'll be fine to go in August. It should not be that cold by then.
Thanks. My nephew and niece are there now. I told them to tell us all when they return. Maybe week after tisha bav.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on July 13, 2016, 07:11:54 PM
any idea of where to stay for Shabbos (including meals) in the Canadian Rockies for a couple without kids?

on the Calgary Chabad Website they said they weren't hosting anyone this year (posted May 2016). Anywhere else to stay in Calgary for Shabbos? Or how about Banff for Shabbos?

Try the orthodox synagoguge
http://www.hojmi.org/contact.php
Hachnasat Orchim E-mail: segal.marina@gmail.com

Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on July 14, 2016, 02:00:05 AM
Banff is good year round, but it's only not very cold until latest end of September. Try the Renoir for Shabbos, and email Marina to see if we still have room for meals.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 14, 2016, 04:19:41 PM
Is it too cold already in August to go to Banff (after Tisha Bav)? I saw somewhere said July the's time
August is fine.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on July 18, 2016, 07:44:08 PM
Wanted to go but the main good hotels, like Fairmont are booked solid. I want it to be a nice vacation so I wanted something like the Fairmont. I guess it's major season and we won't get anything decent. Probably have to plan way in advance. Oh well.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: mordechain on July 18, 2016, 08:04:59 PM
I stayed at the Delta kananaskis village, a very nice place. It's now part of the Marriott chain, I p paid 150 a night last summer. Only down side is that it's a half hour from the Banff gate, but still in a beautiful area
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: mordechain on July 18, 2016, 08:07:32 PM
August is fine.
+1. August is beautiful.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on July 18, 2016, 08:18:22 PM
Wanted to go but the main good hotels, like Fairmont are booked solid. I want it to be a nice vacation so I wanted something like the Fairmont. I guess it's major season and we won't get anything decent. Probably have to plan way in advance. Oh well.

Keep checking again and again. When I first looked there nothing available but eventually a room opened up and I grabbed it right away.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on July 18, 2016, 10:33:02 PM
Keep checking again and again. When I first looked there nothing available but eventually a room opened up and I grabbed it right away.
Thanks. I'll do that.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on July 18, 2016, 10:33:29 PM
I stayed at the Delta kananaskis village, a very nice place. It's now part of the Marriott chain, I p paid 150 a night last summer. Only down side is that it's a half hour from the Banff gate, but still in a beautiful area
Do they take marriot points? Free nights? What category is it?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: mordechain on July 18, 2016, 10:51:44 PM
I just googled it. Category 7
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: elya on July 20, 2016, 01:56:18 AM
Wanted to go but the main good hotels, like Fairmont are booked solid. I want it to be a nice vacation so I wanted something like the Fairmont. I guess it's major season and we won't get anything decent. Probably have to plan way in advance. Oh well.
Theres a gorgeous hotel under 5 minutes away from the Fairmont Banff springs called The Rimrock, it dosent hold a candle to The Fairmont, but beautiful and affordable nonetheless. (rooms are actually significantly larger there)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 20, 2016, 10:23:41 PM
Theres a gorgeous hotel under 5 minutes away from the Fairmont Banff springs called The Rimrock, it dosent hold a candle to The Fairmont, but beautiful and affordable nonetheless. (rooms are actually significantly larger there)
When we went 2 years ago we stayed in Solara Resort in Canmor. It's around 30 min from the park entrance. They  only have suites/apartments, it was really nice. We had our own kitchen, living room, porch... We booked it thru Amex Travel. I don't remember the exact deal, but I think I paid $300 a night and got $100 back per a night via a Amex offers.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on July 25, 2016, 03:46:39 PM
Nothing was available. I went through a travel agent and we ended up getting the Fairmont for the first two nights in Banff and the second two nights in Lake Louise. We are very excited about it. Going early Sunday morning mid August - flying from NY to Toronto and then to Banff so we can get there early. Now I have to read through the notes here and figure out about food and touring.
Anybody want to kick in any advice (a lot to read above), feel free.
We are two "young" grandparents, no children coming along.
Maybe Pomogranate or Chap A Nosh for food? Someone said you can pick up something in Calgary? Anyway, will start reading the thread. Thanks for the help so far.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on July 25, 2016, 04:12:39 PM
Both Fairmonts are amazing hotels. We stayed in the Banff Springs, not the Lake Louise, but the LL one is also a great property. My one complaint with the BS Fairmont was that the rooms small. The hotel and the grounds were incredible, but we got a suite upgrade to a room thats smaller than most hotel rooms.

We brought food from Pomegranate and it was delicious. The BS staff was incredibly helpful with everything, they stored the food then heated and brought it up to our room when we called for it. Calgary has very little in terms of kosher food, there are a couple of small kosher sections in the supermarkets there but not much. If you want anything more substantial than pre-package deli/hummus you will have to bring it from NY.

We did the Johnston Canyon hike which was awesome, we did the hike up to the upper falls and it was a total of about 1.5-2 hours. Its an easy hikes thats more akin to a nature walk. If you have the time to drive up to Athabasca Glacier you definitely should. The drive is beautiful, we kept stopping the entire way there and back to take pictures and take in the scenery. The glacier itself very cool, you can drink the water right out of the streams melting on it. The bow river and falls are good to see, Lake Moraine has a number of great hikes for every kind of level, Lake Louise in beautiful. There are a ton of options of various things to do out there.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: hr555 on July 25, 2016, 05:58:27 PM
Nothing was available. I went through a travel agent and we ended up getting the Fairmont for the first two nights in Banff and the second two nights in Lake Louise. We are very excited about it. Going early Sunday morning mid August - flying from NY to Toronto and then to Banff so we can get there early. Now I have to read through the notes here and figure out about food and touring.
Anybody want to kick in any advice (a lot to read above), feel free.
We are two "young" grandparents, no children coming along.
Maybe Pomogranate or Chap A Nosh for food? Someone said you can pick up something in Calgary? Anyway, will start reading the thread. Thanks for the help so far.

Do you enjoy multi-hour hiking?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on July 26, 2016, 10:44:54 PM
After reading thru almost the whole thread I can't figure it out. Does it make sense to go to Banff for 2 days with kids? (youngest being 2).
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: mordechain on July 26, 2016, 11:18:26 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on July 27, 2016, 10:56:21 AM
After reading thru almost the whole thread I can't figure it out. Does it make sense to go to Banff for 2 days with kids? (youngest being 2).

IMO depends how far you travel for it. And is travel included in these 2 days. But with 2 full days you can make a check on several activities. is it enough to get a feeling for the natural beauty ?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on July 28, 2016, 12:39:18 PM
After reading thru almost the whole thread I can't figure it out. Does it make sense to go to Banff for 2 days with kids? (youngest being 2).
Whenever we take our kids to the mountains, we make sure to stop at enough playgrounds to make it worthwhile. You also have to factor in naps and whether or not they can sleep in the car. You can hold a two year old in a backpack carrier for short hikes.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on July 28, 2016, 02:05:52 PM
Do you enjoy multi-hour hiking?

Depends on the definition of multi. I just recently got relief for some leg problems I've had for a few years so I'm ready to try the hike, but maybe an hour or so would do it.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on August 08, 2016, 11:49:04 AM
Ok. So I'm preparing for our trip. Sooo looking forward. As far as the phone goes we have AT&T phones. They want x dollars for a month to give me some internet so I can get emails, texts, phone calls. Here's a question. If it's for another forum, please let me know. I can legally unlock my phones with AT&T. If I do, is there a card I can get for cheap in Canada (or in Flatbush) that will get me emails, phone, etc. If yes, how do I get phone calls to my ATT number?
Next.. the food situation!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on August 08, 2016, 01:33:52 PM
Ok. So I'm preparing for our trip. Sooo looking forward. As far as the phone goes we have AT&T phones. They want x dollars for a month to give me some internet so I can get emails, texts, phone calls. Here's a question. If it's for another forum, please let me know. I can legally unlock my phones with AT&T. If I do, is there a card I can get for cheap in Canada (or in Flatbush) that will get me emails, phone, etc. If yes, how do I get phone calls to my ATT number?
Next.. the food situation!

I had free wifi every night in every hotel I stayed in. Some may require you enroll in their free frequent guest program. I downloaded google offline maps
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on August 08, 2016, 05:24:54 PM
I had free wifi every night in every hotel I stayed in. Some may require you enroll in their free frequent guest program. I downloaded google offline maps
Thanks. Staying in Fairmont and I am a member
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 09, 2016, 02:24:18 PM
My tentative itinerary - not sure which direction I'll start. I put some places in parenthesis - they are not must, but only if there's time.

Arrive in Calgary

(Drumheller: Dinosaur Trail)

(Grassi Lakes, Canmore)

(Banff Gondola)

Bow Lake

Lake Minnewanka

(Johnston Canyon hike)

Lake Louise
 
(ski area Gondola)

Moraine Lake

(Yoho National Park: Wapta Fall and Takakkaw Falls)

Icefields Parkway

Crowfoot Glacier

Peyto lake

(Mistaya Canyon)

Saskatchewan River Crossing
Weeping Wall

Athabasca Glacier,
Columbia Icefield Centre

Sunwapta falls

Athabasca Falls

Mount Edith Cavell with Angel Glacier

 the Jasper Tramway

(maligne canyon)

(Mount Robson)

(West edmonton Mall)

Depart Edmonton airport


How long should this take without optional stops in parenthesis? How long with?
Not doing any long hikes.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on August 09, 2016, 04:16:57 PM
All right! Thanks for showing your itinerary! A lot of google time needed but I'll check these out for our trip. We're iyh doing a Sunday-Thursday night.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on August 09, 2016, 07:18:13 PM
Don't forget the gypsy app for your tour guides
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on August 09, 2016, 08:12:13 PM
All right! Thanks for showing your itinerary! A lot of google time needed but I'll check these out for our trip. We're iyh doing a Sunday-Thursday night.
He seems to be going all the way up till Jasper. And leaving Edmonton
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on August 09, 2016, 08:36:46 PM
My tentative itinerary - not sure which direction I'll start. I put some places in parenthesis - they are not must, but only if there's time.

Arrive in Calgary

(Drumheller: Dinosaur Trail)

(Grassi Lakes, Canmore)

(Banff Gondola)

Bow Lake

Lake Minnewanka

(Johnston Canyon hike)

Lake Louise
 
(ski area Gondola)

Moraine Lake

(Yoho National Park: Wapta Fall and Takakkaw Falls)

Icefields Parkway

Crowfoot Glacier

Peyto lake

(Mistaya Canyon)

Saskatchewan River Crossing
Weeping Wall

Athabasca Glacier,
Columbia Icefield Centre

Sunwapta falls

Athabasca Falls

Mount Edith Cavell with Angel Glacier

 the Jasper Tramway

(maligne canyon)

(Mount Robson)

(West edmonton Mall)

Depart Edmonton airport


How long should this take without optional stops in parenthesis? How long with?
Not doing any long hikes.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
We did all that minus Yoho and a few stops in two days, including a stay overnight in Jasper and driving back. But we could have taken much longer. I recommend four.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 09, 2016, 10:25:57 PM
We did all that minus Yoho and a few stops in two days, including a stay overnight in Jasper and driving back. But we could have taken much longer. I recommend four.
Thanks for your help!
I'm trying to pack in, without compromising on enjoying the scenery. I'm not one of those to stare at a waterfall for hours on end.
And like I wrote before, no big hikes (going with baby).

A) Do you think I can do all that with Yoho - on a Wed, Thurs, and part of Friday?

B) Are there any budget options to lodge overnight in or near Banff/Lake Louise/Jasper?
I'm referring to places similar to Holiday Inn Express or Staybridge Suites in the USA.
Simple, efficient (i.e. basic amenities like A/C, and clean rooms and beds), and inexpensive.
Does that exist?
(I know there's a HIE near Jasper, but they are over $200/night+, and no reward nights available (they were on the PointBreakers list)  >:( .
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: cherylnlajolla on August 10, 2016, 01:18:01 PM
We stayed in Canmore twice and loved it -- not as crowded as Banff & Lake Louise, nice grocery stores.  Stayed at Falcon Crest Lodge (full kitchen) and Best Western Pocaterra.  I got great deals for both on Orbiz (look for 15% off coupon).
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on August 10, 2016, 01:50:01 PM
There is a best western in Banff, other decent budget hotels ok banff & jasper
AC is not a given, check before.  Even the Fairmont Jasper Park Lodge does not have AC in the rooms
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on August 11, 2016, 03:02:45 PM
Thanks for your help!
I'm trying to pack in, without compromising on enjoying the scenery. I'm not one of those to stare at a waterfall for hours on end.
And like I wrote before, no big hikes (going with baby).

A) Do you think I can do all that with Yoho - on a Wed, Thurs, and part of Friday?

B) Are there any budget options to lodge overnight in or near Banff/Lake Louise/Jasper?
I'm referring to places similar to Holiday Inn Express or Staybridge Suites in the USA.
Simple, efficient (i.e. basic amenities like A/C, and clean rooms and beds), and inexpensive.
Does that exist?
(I know there's a HIE near Jasper, but they are over $200/night+, and no reward nights available (they were on the PointBreakers list)  >:( .
Idk the summer setup as far as lodging, Jasper is cheaper than Banff, but there is often no availability in peak season. You may have to stay a bit north of Jasper. Three days is tight, but not if you don't plan on hiking. Expect baby to slow you down a bit and bring a backpack carrier.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on August 14, 2016, 07:19:31 PM
I'm going air Canada from Newark to  toronto and then to calgary. On the way back ending in lga. My wife and I have a total of 4 free passes from united for the united club from the credit card. Is there a united club near the air Canada terminals that we'll be near?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on August 17, 2016, 12:28:26 PM
Important question: I'm getting my frozen meals from pomegranate. Here's what they're asking me. Is there an issue bringing the food from here to Canada packed this way or is it preferable to pack it that way?
Would you like us to pack your meals in an ice box with ice packs and wrap the box for airline?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on August 17, 2016, 04:54:39 PM
Important question: I'm getting my frozen meals from pomegranate. Here's what they're asking me. Is there an issue bringing the food from here to Canada packed this way or is it preferable to pack it that way?
Would you like us to pack your meals in an ice box with ice packs and wrap the box for airline?

They get annoyed when they see cardboard boxes. Bring the meat in a gym bag and you won't have a problem.

Either way mark it as product of USA
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Traveler718 on August 17, 2016, 05:00:19 PM
I'll be visiting the Canadian Rockies for the first time in a couple of weeks. I'll be travelling alone and don't mind long days and long hikes, so I hope to cover a lot of ground. I'll be there for about 4.5-5 days, starting out Sunday morning after Shabbos in Calgary, and flying back Thursday night from YYC. Does the following rough itinerary make sense:

Sunday - Drive Icefields Parkway with sights and hikes along the way, stay Jasper
Monday - Sightsee and hike around Jasper, drive back to Lake Louise
Tuesday - Lake Louise and Moraine Lake hikes, stay Lake Louise
Wednesday - Yoho hikes, stay Canmore (points)
Thursday - Explore Banff and Canmore, fly back from YYC at night
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on August 18, 2016, 01:09:24 AM
I'll be visiting the Canadian Rockies for the first time in a couple of weeks. I'll be travelling alone and don't mind long days and long hikes, so I hope to cover a lot of ground. I'll be there for about 4.5-5 days, starting out Sunday morning after Shabbos in Calgary, and flying back Thursday night from YYC. Does the following rough itinerary make sense:

Sunday - Drive Icefields Parkway with sights and hikes along the way, stay Jasper
Monday - Sightsee and hike around Jasper, drive back to Lake Louise
Tuesday - Lake Louise and Moraine Lake hikes, stay Lake Louise
Wednesday - Yoho hikes, stay Canmore (points)
Thursday - Explore Banff and Canmore, fly back from YYC at night
Why not fly out of YEG, this way you don't double over, where you have already been. Also If you are flying back to NYC area there are no direct evening flights from YYC.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on August 19, 2016, 07:18:53 AM
We are going iyh Sunday. 6am Newark to Toronto and then to Calgary arriving 12:30 so we don't lose the whole day. Pomogranate food.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on August 24, 2016, 12:08:13 AM
Why not fly out of YEG, this way you don't double over, where you have already been. Also If you are flying back to NYC area there are no direct evening flights from YYC.
I have heard the argument made that you can fly into Calgary and out of Edmonton. But it doesn't gain so much as far as sightseeing. The road from Jasper to Edmonton is about as far as the way to Lake Louise, and there is not much to see on the way to Edmonton, because you are leaving the mountains. This is probably why many prefer to skip a few attractions on the way to Jasper and hit them on the way back. And the view is different from the two directions of the icefields parkway.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on August 24, 2016, 12:15:47 AM
Yoho trip notes.

We went to Yoho yesterday with four children six and under. I have to say it was a great experience. The visitor's center has a playground and a small lake that children like to swim in, and there is a nice picnic area right there next to the famous Kicking Horse River. The park itself is relatively small, and many of the trails accomodate strollers. At this time of year, Lake Louise is mobbed, so we went with the less populated park. They have two red chair locations in the park, and both are pretty accessible. Yoho is all cliffs and waterfalls, and none of the other parks are quite like it. It made mewish I had a helicopter tour, to see those ice fields around the perimeter.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on August 24, 2016, 11:35:23 AM
So we finally arrived in Banff on Sunday and they lost our luggage. Just got it now and we are leaving tomorrow! Question. We have a late flight out of Calgary tomorrow night. Any place in Calgary to get a meal? By the way the fairmont in Banff and here in lake Louise are really great. Anyway,if anyone knows about dinner in Calgary. Thanks
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on August 25, 2016, 11:55:31 PM
So we finally arrived in Banff on Sunday and they lost our luggage. Just got it now and we are leaving tomorrow! Question. We have a late flight out of Calgary tomorrow night. Any place in Calgary to get a meal? By the way the fairmont in Banff and here in lake Louise are really great. Anyway,if anyone knows about dinner in Calgary. Thanks
I'm sorry I didn't get your message in time. There is a kosher Milchig non Cholov Yisrael cafe called Karen's Cafe hosted in the JCC on 90th ave across from Glenmore Landing. They are not open late, but you can make it there for supper. If you were stuck, we probably could have had you over :-).
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on August 28, 2016, 07:13:33 PM
I'm sorry I didn't get your message in time. There is a kosher Milchig non Cholov Yisrael cafe called Karen's Cafe hosted in the JCC on 90th ave across from Glenmore Landing. They are not open late, but you can make it there for supper. If you were stuck, we probably could have had you over :-).
Home already. I tried calling Karens numerous times with no answer. But thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on August 28, 2016, 07:16:35 PM
So besides the lost luggage and a lot of wasted (costly) time, we are finally back from our trip. Hard to describe the beauty. One thing for anyone going. I got this recommendation right before we left. There's an APP called the gypsy guide to the Canadian rockies. They have a number of modules. I went with the recommendation and paid 14.99 for all of it. Basically, while driving from one place to another it knows where you are and gives you history, ideas, what's at each turnoff, how long are the hikes, what to see, etc. It really a great thing to have. I had something similar many years ago when we went to San Fransisco on a three whelled car. The radio did it. Anyway, highly recommended.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on December 01, 2016, 01:44:02 PM
All Canadian national parks will be free for 2017.

Get the pass here. (https://www.commandesparcs-parksorders.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?expDataType=MarketingContent&mpe_id=20009&catalogId=53407&categoryId=216870&productId=524527&expDataUniqueID=46709&evtype=CpgnClick&intv_id=0&langId=-1&storeId=22953&ddkey=http%3AClickInfo)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 26, 2016, 12:08:07 PM
If i take  a flight from NYC - YEG with a stop in YYC,
will they make me collect my bags in YYC or will it go direct?
Id like to do a hidden city....
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: tageed-lee on December 26, 2016, 12:52:23 PM
All Canadian national parks will be free for 2017.

Get the pass here. (https://www.commandesparcs-parksorders.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?expDataType=MarketingContent&mpe_id=20009&catalogId=53407&categoryId=216870&productId=524527&expDataUniqueID=46709&evtype=CpgnClick&intv_id=0&langId=-1&storeId=22953&ddkey=http%3AClickInfo)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: yaf613 on December 26, 2016, 12:55:31 PM
All Canadian national parks will be free for 2017.

Get the pass here. (https://www.commandesparcs-parksorders.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?expDataType=MarketingContent&mpe_id=20009&catalogId=53407&categoryId=216870&productId=524527&expDataUniqueID=46709&evtype=CpgnClick&intv_id=0&langId=-1&storeId=22953&ddkey=http%3AClickInfo)
Is there a list of all places included in this pass?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: myi on December 26, 2016, 12:58:02 PM
All Canadian national parks will be free for 2017.

Get the pass here. (https://www.commandesparcs-parksorders.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?expDataType=MarketingContent&mpe_id=20009&catalogId=53407&categoryId=216870&productId=524527&expDataUniqueID=46709&evtype=CpgnClick&intv_id=0&langId=-1&storeId=22953&ddkey=http%3AClickInfo)
A like given and a thank you! Hope to use it in the next visit to toronto,CA.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 26, 2016, 12:58:56 PM
Is there a list of all places included in this pass?
DDMS
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on December 26, 2016, 12:59:03 PM
Banff DO anyone?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 26, 2016, 01:04:58 PM
Banff DO anyone?
Sure, amazing $20 off an entire trip to Banff, let's all go there in droves.

Who needs Flight and hotel deals.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 26, 2016, 01:09:01 PM
DDMS
20 Canadian Dollar equals
14.81 US Dollar
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on December 26, 2016, 01:23:01 PM
Sure, amazing $20 off an entire trip to Banff, let's all go there in droves.

Who needs Flight and hotel deals.
You took me seriously? Come on.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 26, 2016, 01:33:58 PM
If i take  a flight from NYC - YEG with a stop in YYC,
will they make me collect my bags in YYC or will it go direct?
Id like to do a hidden city....
bump anyone?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: eli232 on December 26, 2016, 02:30:42 PM
You took me seriously? Come on.
yes , that happens a lot of times...0.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on December 26, 2016, 02:31:01 PM
yes , that happens a lot of times...0.
Lol.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on December 26, 2016, 04:54:42 PM
If i take  a flight from NYC - YEG with a stop in YYC,
will they make me collect my bags in YYC or will it go direct?
Id like to do a hidden city....

I would guess yes as you have to go thru customs. I only had personal experience in Toronto where I got my bags.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 28, 2016, 11:01:56 AM
Thansk~!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: dreaming on December 28, 2016, 05:11:22 PM
Is it interesting to go to Banff  in the winter  (February )?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 28, 2016, 08:44:25 PM
Is it interesting to go to Banff  in the winter  (February )?

(http://www.andersonvacations.ca/Images/Products/Thumbnails/hd-wallpapers-moraine-lake-banff-national-park-winter-scenery-wallpaper-x-1680x1050-wallpaper.jpg)

If this is your idea of interesting, go for it. Will not be as many tourists like July.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: E R K on January 13, 2017, 01:44:24 AM
All Canadian national parks will be free for 2017.

Get the pass here. (https://www.commandesparcs-parksorders.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?expDataType=MarketingContent&mpe_id=20009&catalogId=53407&categoryId=216870&productId=524527&expDataUniqueID=46709&evtype=CpgnClick&intv_id=0&langId=-1&storeId=22953&ddkey=http%3AClickInfo)

Did anyone get their pass yet?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on January 13, 2017, 02:07:27 AM
Did anyone get their pass yet?

I haven't, but I've seen reports elsewhere of people who have. Apparently the Canadian government shuts down the last week of December and they're backlogged now.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 13, 2017, 06:11:00 AM
Did anyone get their pass yet?

Didn't receive it yet. If you are planning on heading out there soon, you can get an annual pass at the entrance.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 13, 2017, 08:15:59 AM
Personally I found that depending on the entrance you use to the park the pass isn't really necessary.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 13, 2017, 04:23:04 PM
Did anyone get their pass yet?
Yup
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on January 19, 2017, 10:17:36 PM
All Canadian national parks will be free for 2017.

Get the pass here. (https://www.commandesparcs-parksorders.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?expDataType=MarketingContent&mpe_id=20009&catalogId=53407&categoryId=216870&productId=524527&expDataUniqueID=46709&evtype=CpgnClick&intv_id=0&langId=-1&storeId=22953&ddkey=http%3AClickInfo)

I haven't gotten my pass yet so I checked my email, and it turns out I never got a confirmation (they warn you during checkout that it may take a few hours). So I made another order earlier today and just got a confirmation email.

If you've ordered and haven't gotten your pass yet, search your email for DoNotReply@commandesparcs-parksorders.ca; if there's nothing there you may want to order it again.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 19, 2017, 10:40:41 PM
I haven't gotten my pass yet so I checked my email, and it turns out I never got a confirmation (they warn you during checkout that it may take a few hours). So I made another order earlier today and just got a confirmation email.

If you've ordered and haven't gotten your pass yet, search your email for DoNotReply@commandesparcs-parksorders.ca; if there's nothing there you may want to order it again.

I didn't get confirmation the day it was posted either so I requested it again, and still no confirmation.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on January 19, 2017, 10:42:01 PM
When did you request again?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 19, 2017, 11:47:21 PM
A few days after the first request, guess I should again.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on January 20, 2017, 01:51:46 AM
Is it interesting to go to Banff  in the winter  (February )?
It's good, but sometimes very cold. You need to check online to find out conditions in various places, some need snowshoes, cleats, or skis. I like winter when we can go, because it's much less crowded.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 20, 2017, 06:14:19 AM
A few days after the first request, guess I should again.

Got confirmation this time. Allow 6 weeks for delivery.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on January 20, 2017, 07:56:00 AM
Got confirmation this time. Allow 6 weeks for delivery.

Awesome.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on January 20, 2017, 08:05:53 AM
It's good, but sometimes very cold. You need to check online to find out conditions in various places, some need snowshoes, cleats, or skis. I like winter when we can go, because it's much less crowded.

I'll be doing my workshop (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=62659.msg1655439.msg#1655439) there 2/27-3/2, looking forward to some great show conditions. Hopefully we'll even find some solitude :D.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on January 30, 2017, 07:48:57 PM
I haven't gotten my pass yet so I checked my email, and it turns out I never got a confirmation (they warn you during checkout that it may take a few hours). So I made another order earlier today and just got a confirmation email.

If you've ordered and haven't gotten your pass yet, search your email for DoNotReply@commandesparcs-parksorders.ca; if there's nothing there you may want to order it again.

Got it today... and it's from the original order I placed :P.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on January 30, 2017, 07:54:37 PM
(http://www.andersonvacations.ca/Images/Products/Thumbnails/hd-wallpapers-moraine-lake-banff-national-park-winter-scenery-wallpaper-x-1680x1050-wallpaper.jpg)

If this is your idea of interesting, go for it. Will not be as many tourists like July.

Funny thing is, this spot is inaccessible in the winter (unless you're a professional mountaineer and are in the mood of a 17-mile cross-country ski trip). This shot was taken during an early snow in the fall.

Also, the picture is flipped horizontally, which is annoying me for no sensible reason :-[.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on February 04, 2017, 10:35:27 PM
One more thing about the Canadian Rockies in the winter. While the lakes are always frozen, the weather is only predictable a few days beforehand. You could get the standard -10 F with clouds and snow, or you could get a Chinook, where the warm winds blow in from Vancouver, giving you clear skies and 40-60 degree weather by midday. The weather is very hard to predict and analysts are often wrong (but not very often). Prepare for heavy winter or fall weather. Frozen lakes do not mean you can skate on them, even if the locals are. Just last week, I passed dozens of people playing ice hockey, etc on lac des arcs, and the ice was gray, covered in cracks.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on February 04, 2017, 10:44:36 PM
One more thing about the Canadian Rockies in the winter. While the lakes are always frozen, the weather is only predictable a few days beforehand. You could get the standard -10 F with clouds and snow, or you could get a Chinook, where the warm winds blow in from Vancouver, giving you clear skies and 40-60 degree weather by midday. The weather is very hard to predict and analysts are often wrong (but not very often). Prepare for heavy winter or fall weather. Frozen lakes do not mean you can skate on them, even if the locals are. Just last week, I passed dozens of people playing ice hockey, etc on lac des arcs, and the ice was gray, covered in cracks.

I was under the impression that Chinooks were easterlies coming in from the plains... Am I wrong?

These details are important when you're planning a photography trip.

ETA: Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinook_wind) agrees with you; apparently they do indeed come from the west.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on February 06, 2017, 08:42:15 PM
Interesting news, although it could be a number of years until they're spread out enough to be seen by typical tourists:

http://www.pc.gc.ca/eng/pn-np/ab/banff/plan/gestion-management/bison.aspx

http://www.grindtv.com/wildlife/bison-make-historic-return-banff-national-park-130-years-video/#UHiekFgbh7IWWZvx.97
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on February 21, 2017, 11:24:28 PM
Got it today... and it's from the original order I placed :P.

Mine came in today x2.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: tageed-lee on February 21, 2017, 11:48:32 PM
All Canadian national parks will be free for 2017.

Get the pass here. (https://www.commandesparcs-parksorders.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?expDataType=MarketingContent&mpe_id=20009&catalogId=53407&categoryId=216870&productId=524527&expDataUniqueID=46709&evtype=CpgnClick&intv_id=0&langId=-1&storeId=22953&ddkey=http%3AClickInfo)
Mine came in today
Same here  :)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: shulem92 on February 21, 2017, 11:49:12 PM
Mine came in today x2.

Same here  :)
+1
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: BKYW on February 21, 2017, 11:51:45 PM
Same here  :)

Mine too
Thanks something fishy
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on February 22, 2017, 03:54:07 PM
Got my first set and then my second shortly after. First took long, second pretty fast.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: theyankel on February 23, 2017, 06:37:06 PM
mine came today. one pass as ordered. with a discover parks canada booklet
thanks something fishy
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on March 10, 2017, 12:15:33 PM
not sure if I should be starting a new thread for my question, mods, please move to a new thread if appropriate.

I am looking for advice on my summer itinerary, taking in Vancouver, whistler, Banff and Jasper over two weeks.  We are a family with teenage kids. Here is what I have so far...  I am trying to keep things interesting while also leaving some down time to relax.  I expect to add in some nice hikes in each area as we solidify  the itinerary.  I am looking for advice on whether this itinerary should work (not looking for advice on flights, rental cars, hotels).  Thanks in advance.

Wednesday7PM flight Newark-Vancouver
Thursday   capilano bridge, cliff walk etcÖ Maple grill for supper
Friday   bike stanley park, dragon boating on the bay
Saturday   Shabbos in community
Sunday   Drive to Whistler - Sea to Sky highway - stop at squammish for Gondola, two nights in westin whistler
Monday   whistler, peak to peak gondola,
Tuesday   back to vancouver for  flight to calgary
Wednesday Shopping, hike in canmore
Thursday   lake louise, teahouse hike, canoes, morainne lake valley of ten peaks
Friday   banff, gondola, horse back riding, scenic spots
Saturday   Shabbos in Canmore
Sunday   white water rafting
Monday   iceland parkway - peyto lake, photo stops, Jasper, maligne lake cruise
Tuesday   Jasper and return to banff - overnight in banff
Wednesday   330 PM flight Calgary-Newark

Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 10, 2017, 01:24:47 PM
Sunday I would do white water rafting in Squammish
Monday, I would add another activity (ATVing, or ziplining)

Can you either fly into Edmonton or fly home from Edmonton? I really don't like the idea of driving both ways of the Iceland parkway.
You could check out the Edmonton mall Tuesday night. Wednesday in Jasper. Thrusday iceland parkway and move Thursday/Friday activities to Monday Tuesday
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on March 10, 2017, 01:50:00 PM
Whitewater in Squamish is better than kicking horse river in the Rockies?

I will see if we can fly out of Edmonton. But in the big scheme of things I don't think driving both ways on the ice land Parkway is a big deal.  There are enough places to stop each way.

 Is the consensus that it is worth doing the two days in Whistler ?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on March 10, 2017, 02:04:41 PM
We did a similar trip last year but backwards and much shorter. (I've been meaning to post my TR since July!  :-[ ).

In Vancouver we did the Capilino, we planned to whale watching but it was cancelled due to weather, checked out Granville market, went to one of the out of the way beaches, explored Stanley park. The city is great to just walk around in and get a feel for things. I'm a coffee fanatic so I planned a lot around good coffee shops. Gastown is a fun area to walk around. Do not walk from Gastown to China town, you go through some very sketchy parts.

Unfortunately, our trip to Banff was a little delayed due to our flights out of NY. We planned white water rating but did not get to do that. We did the Johnson Canyon walk/hike, that was a great hike which was not very strenuous at all. We did the drive from Banff to the Icefields and back, we stopped at a number of lookouts along the way. The drive was 3 hours each way. We stopped at Lake Louis, Lake Morraine, and anything else that looked interesting. Lake Morraine is further off of of the main road but was really nice.

The Icefields are great because you actually go up on to the glacier, walk around, and can drink the water up there (bring a bottle!).

The photo ops all along the parkway are amazing. We just kept pulling over to take pictures and admire the scenery.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 10, 2017, 02:07:02 PM
And DO NOT do the stupid Glacier Skywalk. Biggest tourist trap ever
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on March 10, 2017, 02:10:56 PM
And DO NOT do the stupid Glacier Skywalk. Biggest tourist trap ever

Definitely agree!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on March 10, 2017, 02:29:10 PM
Can you go up on the Glazer without doing the tourist trap
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on March 10, 2017, 02:57:21 PM
Can you go up on the Glazer without doing the tourist trap

The buses go first to the glacier then to the skywalk (tourist trap), at the Skywalk you can just grab a bus straight back to the main building and not bother going out onto it.
 
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 10, 2017, 03:06:03 PM
The buses go first to the glacier then to the skywalk (tourist trap), at the Skywalk you can just grab a bus straight back to the main building and not bother going out onto it.
This. And you don't have to pay for it either
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on March 12, 2017, 01:15:57 PM
from the website it appears that they combined the admission and you cannot do the glacier without paying for the skywalk.  please correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 12, 2017, 03:18:35 PM
So it would appear. I guess word got out that the skywalk is stupid
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on March 12, 2017, 08:09:15 PM
When we went you had to get the combo ticket.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 13, 2017, 01:33:44 PM
I still wouldn't go, even if I needed to pay for it
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on March 13, 2017, 03:36:01 PM
lol. question is if it is worth going to the icefields at all for the combo price.  i believe there are other hikes that are free and give you a good up close view of other glaciers.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on March 14, 2017, 12:14:06 AM
lol. question is if it is worth going to the icefields at all for the combo price.  i believe there are other hikes that are free and give you a good up close view of other glaciers.
The bus ride is a big part of it.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on March 14, 2017, 09:37:59 AM
not sure if I should be starting a new thread for my question, mods, please move to a new thread if appropriate.

I am looking for advice on my summer itinerary, taking in Vancouver, whistler, Banff and Jasper over two weeks.  We are a family with teenage kids. Here is what I have so far...  I am trying to keep things interesting while also leaving some down time to relax.  I expect to add in some nice hikes in each area as we solidify  the itinerary.  I am looking for advice on whether this itinerary should work (not looking for advice on flights, rental cars, hotels).  Thanks in advance.

Wednesday7PM flight Newark-Vancouver
Thursday   capilano bridge, cliff walk etcÖ Maple grill for supper
Friday   bike stanley park, dragon boating on the bay
Saturday   Shabbos in community
Sunday   Drive to Whistler - Sea to Sky highway - stop at squammish for Gondola, two nights in westin whistler
Monday   whistler, peak to peak gondola,
Tuesday   back to vancouver for  flight to calgary
Wednesday Shopping, hike in canmore
Thursday   lake louise, teahouse hike, canoes, morainne lake valley of ten peaks
Friday   banff, gondola, horse back riding, scenic spots
Saturday   Shabbos in Canmore
Sunday   white water rafting
Monday   iceland parkway - peyto lake, photo stops, Jasper, maligne lake cruise
Tuesday   Jasper and return to banff - overnight in banff
Wednesday   330 PM flight Calgary-Newark



 Thinking of changing this a bit.  Staying in whistler just one night and flying Monday night from Vancouver to Edmonton.  Sleep overnight in Edmonton and drive tues morning to jasper. Tuesday night in jasper and drive icelands parkway on Wednesday to lake Louise.  Wednesday night in lake Louise area and Thursday evening  to Canmore where we will get settled for shabbos.  White water rafting on Sunday and banff on Monday.  Tuesday tbd.

Much less backtracking and some of the logistics may be better for us. 

I think both itineraries are good and will decide between the two.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 14, 2017, 10:13:23 AM
Just thinking - if you calculate how long getting from Whistler to Jasper will take you - maybe you are better off driving?

Drive Whistler -> airport - 2 hours
Airport + flight time + get bags + rent new car - 4.5 hours
Drive Edmonton -> Jasper - 4 hours

Drive Whistler -> Jasper 9 hours   and there's probably stuff to do along the way

Something to think about
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on March 14, 2017, 10:19:56 AM
Thanks.  Definitely weighing all options. Minyan also is a factor which I am working on.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: yaakovb on March 15, 2017, 08:47:37 PM
Thinking of changing this a bit.  Staying in whistler just one night and flying Monday night from Vancouver to Edmonton.  Sleep overnight in Edmonton and drive tues morning to jasper. Tuesday night in jasper and drive icelands parkway on Wednesday to lake Louise.  Wednesday night in lake Louise area and Thursday evening  to Canmore where we will get settled for shabbos.  White water rafting on Sunday and banff on Monday.  Tuesday tbd.

Much less backtracking and some of the logistics may be better for us. 

I think both itineraries are good and will decide between the two.

Is there any reason you would rather stay shabbos in Canmore and not in Banff?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on March 15, 2017, 11:48:07 PM
There are more condos with full kitchens available in Canmore.  We are hoping it will be easier to put together a minyan in canmore.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on March 19, 2017, 04:41:54 PM
There is currently a promotion at the Walmart portrait studio offering a 30 min photo session anywhere in Canada for 50 CAD. It normally goes for 188, and once it is purchased, it doesn't expire. If you are past 50 km from a Walmart (there is one in Canmore), it adds 25 to the cost. They give you four prints of the same one pose of your choice, and after that you are at the mercy of the studio to get the rest of your pictures.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 19, 2017, 06:39:56 PM
Link?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on March 19, 2017, 09:32:31 PM
Phone only. I saw it in the Shawnessy location, but they said it's cross Canada and you can call it in.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: julienbortz on April 07, 2017, 08:11:59 PM
Hey All, I'm sure this was addressed somewhere and I looked for it but couldn't find it. But I'm planning a 5 day trip to both Banff and Glacier National Park (flying to Kalispell or Calgary) and wanted to know if I'm wasting my time trying to fit both places into my itinerary or to just pick one and spend all of our time there. What do you guys think? Everyone raves about Banff but Glacier looks amazing too, and keep in mind it would be the week of the 4th of July, so the less tourists the better. Thank you!!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on April 08, 2017, 11:32:20 PM
With just 5 days, you're probably just better off with Banff, icefields parkway and Jasper
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on April 09, 2017, 12:25:03 AM
Glacier is nice but not close to as nice as banff to jasper
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on April 09, 2017, 02:21:27 AM
Regardless if you're referring to the American Glacier National Park or the Canadian, neither are worth it in such a short time frame.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on April 13, 2017, 10:23:43 AM
There are more condos with full kitchens available in Canmore.  We are hoping it will be easier to put together a minyan in canmore.
Calgary always has a Minyan on Shabbos.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on April 13, 2017, 02:46:08 PM
Thanks we expect to have a minyan every day three times a day
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on April 13, 2017, 11:04:39 PM
Nice, can you post (or direct message) where and when, in case we end up in the mountains and will miss Minyan?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on April 14, 2017, 12:14:14 AM
Sure once plans are firm.  I put a link on godaven
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Lamppost on May 03, 2017, 02:52:08 PM
Hey everyone,
I have a Marriott 7 night hotel certificate (from the stay and fly package or whatever its called). Would love to use it to go to Banff. Problem is that the only nogea hotels are in Calgary which is 90 min away. Is it really pushing things to go anyway and just drive each day back and forth to the mountains? If it makes any difference I have a 2 year old and a 8 month old....
Thanks
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 03, 2017, 02:58:18 PM
Hey everyone,
I have a Marriott 7 night hotel certificate (from the stay and fly package or whatever its called). Would love to use it to go to Banff. Problem is that the only nogea hotels are in Calgary which is 90 min away. Is it really pushing things to go anyway and just drive each day back and forth to the mountains? If it makes any difference I have a 2 year old and a 8 month old....
Thanks
Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Lamppost on May 03, 2017, 03:10:22 PM
Hey i know its far from ideal but why "ridiculous"? Shkia is at 930. I could still have 8 hours per day there even with driving 3 hours round trip. No? Lets pretend that i dont have any kids. Is it still ridiculous?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Lamppost on May 03, 2017, 03:15:30 PM
I could stay a lot closer in the Delta Hotels Kananaskis Lodge. But its a category 7. Worth it? How much is it to upgrade the certificate to include cat 7?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 03, 2017, 07:18:33 PM
Hey i know its far from ideal but why "ridiculous"? Shkia is at 930. I could still have 8 hours per day there even with driving 3 hours round trip. No? Lets pretend that i dont have any kids. Is it still ridiculous?
Have you ever been on a vacation before?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: whYME on May 03, 2017, 07:36:28 PM
Is it still ridiculous?
Yes. Very much so.

And for me to call driving ridiculous means a lot.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on May 03, 2017, 07:58:38 PM
Yes. Very much so.

And for me to call driving ridiculous means a lot.

Eh, you're just bitter from ending up in Yoho by mistake .
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: whYME on May 03, 2017, 09:01:11 PM
Why would I be bitter about something like that?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on May 03, 2017, 10:47:20 PM
I do the trip from Calgary to Banff with the kids pretty often. It's not just the 90 minutes. Banff is right at the beginning of the mountains. It's another 45 minutes to lake Louise, another 45 to Yoho. If you want to see the Ice Fields Parkway or go up to Jasper, you can't stop on the way to enjoy it. And what you save on hotels will be spent on gas at 3 USD per gallon. Each major hike ends up as a full day trip, and the drive to and from is not very scenic. It works for me because I live here. But on my vacation, I rented a hotel in Jasper.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Lamppost on May 03, 2017, 11:39:53 PM
Have you ever been on a vacation before?
Ha! Im not as naive as you think.
 I went to Maui last year for 4 days with an 18 month old and a wife 7 months pregnant. Is that daring enough for you?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: whYME on May 03, 2017, 11:45:25 PM
I don't think it's a question of naivete, it's a question of do you want to waste a significant portion of every day there driving back and forth from your hotel?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Lamppost on May 04, 2017, 08:14:54 AM
Well obviously not. But thats exactly what im wondering. Is that a deal killer. I have to figure out a place to use this certificate. Considering that I have to be in one place the whole time and i dont want to go to something like disney land (we are an outdoor kinda family), where is a good place to go that has a high concentration of natural beauty within a reasonable drive of the hotel? I have been almost all over the USA (47/50 states excluding AR, OK, and the real challenge AK). Id love to see something new. Banff is new. And its gorgeous. So its just seemed to almost work. Question is how big that "almost" is. From what im treading it seems i may be pushing things just a bit too far. So its back to the drawing board for me. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on May 15, 2017, 10:12:21 PM
Looking for someone coming from NYC in the next few weeks. The locals travel mostly in July, and I need a package of educational materials by mid-June. My supplier doesn't send to Canada, so it really needs to hand delivered.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: julienbortz on May 16, 2017, 04:59:00 PM
I'm sure this has been asked before but what's the consensus on choosing between the Fairmont Banff Springs and the Fairmont Lake Louise? Which one provides better overall value? Thanks!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2017, 04:59:46 PM
I'm sure this has been asked before but what's the consensus on choosing between the Fairmont Banff Springs and the Fairmont Lake Louise? Which one provides better overall value? Thanks!
You won't go wrong with either.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on May 16, 2017, 07:23:23 PM
Hey i know its far from ideal but why "ridiculous"? Shkia is at 930. I could still have 8 hours per day there even with driving 3 hours round trip. No? Lets pretend that i dont have any kids. Is it still ridiculous?
Yes. Very unrealistic.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on May 16, 2017, 07:25:18 PM
Well obviously not. But thats exactly what im wondering. Is that a deal killer. I have to figure out a place to use this certificate. Considering that I have to be in one place the whole time and i dont want to go to something like disney land (we are an outdoor kinda family), where is a good place to go that has a high concentration of natural beauty within a reasonable drive of the hotel? I have been almost all over the USA (47/50 states excluding AR, OK, and the real challenge AK). Id love to see something new. Banff is new. And its gorgeous. So its just seemed to almost work. Question is how big that "almost" is. From what im treading it seems i may be pushing things just a bit too far. So its back to the drawing board for me. Any ideas?
Are there hotel options in Vancouver?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: julienbortz on May 16, 2017, 07:49:59 PM
You won't go wrong with either.
Thanks Dan, but has anyone stayed at both that preferred one over the other? Better location? Better overall property?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: RabbiGoldenberg on May 17, 2017, 12:10:21 AM
Hey i know its far from ideal but why "ridiculous"? Shkia is at 930. I could still have 8 hours per day there even with driving 3 hours round trip. No? Lets pretend that i dont have any kids. Is it still ridiculous?
Why is Shkia a factor? You want to Daven with a Minyan or you want to have daylight to see the mountains? Were you planning on leaving the Rockies when it got too dark to see them?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on May 21, 2017, 10:43:19 PM
We just did a day trip to Kananaskis, and discovered that it works very well with children or for an erev Shabbos. We took the trail to Troll Falls and it is about a mile, wide enough for a stroller and not too rocky. The drive from Calgary was easy because it is so close.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: mb1 on June 14, 2017, 10:26:52 PM
How much does the Banff Fairmont charge to warm up packaged meals?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on June 15, 2017, 09:06:11 AM
How much does the Banff Fairmont charge to warm up packaged meals?
We warmed it ourselves. We got a microwave in our room. We just had them store our frozen meals, requested the one we needed early so it can defrost and then used the microwave. We also had a small fridge.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on June 15, 2017, 09:08:17 AM
How much does the Banff Fairmont charge to warm up packaged meals?
FYI. I also emailed them before we went and they actually gave us an upgrade. I discussed the food in the email as well. Always better to come prepared (and remember the name of who answered you). They were very accommodating. We stayed in Banff two nights and Lake Louise two nights, both Fairmonts.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: mb1 on June 15, 2017, 09:45:23 AM
Thanks,
Are there microwaves and refrigerators in the rooms?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 15, 2017, 10:44:39 AM
How much does the Banff Fairmont charge to warm up packaged meals?
They told us there was a $4 delivery fee for warmed up meals, but they didn't actually charge us the fee.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ysturmwind on June 15, 2017, 11:13:28 AM
How much does the Banff Fairmont charge to warm up packaged meals?

They didnt charge us anything to warm up the meals. We left the food with them in the kitchen and they brought them up to us when we called, it so easy and great to have hot/good food there. 

We did the same with the Fairmont Pacific Rim in Vancouver but they charged us $6 each time, luckily the food certs covered that.

Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: mb1 on June 15, 2017, 11:20:17 AM
They emailed me a form that says $10 per person + $5 delivery fee + 18% gratuity + 5% gst.
The name of the form is "kosher form 2016."

If they actually charge according to the form I would consider bringing my own toaster.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 15, 2017, 11:33:06 AM
Just bring a toaster, what's the big deal?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: mb1 on June 15, 2017, 11:42:04 AM
Just bring a toaster, what's the big deal?
I probably will.
Just figured that it's easier to have them warm it up as I need them to store the meals anyways.
But if it's $25++ I'll bring a toaster.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on June 16, 2017, 10:13:01 AM
I didn't get any charges. They gave us a microwave and fridge in the room and we warmed it ourselves. No charge for that either.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: amx on July 05, 2017, 06:09:57 PM
Thinking about going to banff in the next few weeks, problem is naturally nothing available there. After reading through the thread seems like people had a nice experience at falcon lodge in canmore which has availability . Question is- should  I go there or wait for a diff time and try to go to banff itself?? TIA
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on July 05, 2017, 06:59:29 PM
No need to stay in banff. Canmore is fine too and only 20 minutes further.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: amx on July 06, 2017, 01:32:50 PM
ok Thank You
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: em0616 on July 06, 2017, 03:08:24 PM
No need to stay in banff. Canmore is fine too and only 20 minutes further.

I stayed in Golden, BC  - I stayed at: https://www.booking.com/hotel/ca/rocky-mountain-cabins-and-lodge.html
There is also http://www.mountainviewcabinsbc.com

It's closer to the other side of the park called Yoho  ... e.g. Lake O'hara http://www.pc.gc.ca/en/pn-np/bc/yoho/activ/randonnee-hike/ohara
80 km from Lake Louise

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I didn't like Banff or Canmore so much... I prefer Lake Louise area.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: mordechain on July 06, 2017, 07:00:03 PM
I just booked the Holiday inn Jasper in Hinton. 25k ihg points for a room going for $460.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: eliteflyer on July 06, 2017, 07:47:07 PM
I stayed in Golden, BC  - I stayed at: https://www.booking.com/hotel/ca/rocky-mountain-cabins-and-lodge.html
There is also http://www.mountainviewcabinsbc.com

It's closer to the other side of the park called Yoho  ... e.g. Lake O'hara http://www.pc.gc.ca/en/pn-np/bc/yoho/activ/randonnee-hike/ohara
80 km from Lake Louise

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I didn't like Banff or Canmore so much... I prefer Lake Louise area.
Interesting you say that. My extended family is planning a Banff trip in August and booked a chalet in Golden because Banff was too expensive. That being said, they've book-ended a three night stay in Golden with two night stays in Calgary, which I'm not too thrilled about for a week-long trip.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 06, 2017, 11:48:51 PM
Interesting you say that. My extended family is planning a Banff trip in August and booked a chalet in Golden because Banff was too expensive. That being said, they've book-ended a three night stay in Golden with two night stays in Calgary, which I'm not too thrilled about for a week-long trip.
That's just plain old stupid
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: eliteflyer on July 07, 2017, 12:22:25 AM
That's just plain old stupid
I agree, but don't want to rock the family boat too much since grandparents are footing the lodging costs. I raised suggstions back in January for places to stay closer to Banff, but was rebuffed. Apparently, this is the "affordable" way to do it since each family member can use their own SPG/Marriott points to stay at a Residence Inn in Calgary :o. Here are my choices for the Sunday to Sunday August trip (which is presently: Sunday night - Tuesday at a hotel in Calgary; Tuesday - Friday in Golden; Friday-Sunday in Calgary):

1) Don't go (blame it on work)
2) Ditch the larger family for the beginning and end of the trip (particularly the beginning) and find my own lodging closer to something more interesting (Banff/ open to other suggestions)
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 07, 2017, 12:26:44 AM
Option 2, fly into Edmonton, stay Sunday/Monday in Jasper (Monday tour Jasper). Tuesday drive the icefields parkway and meet them in Golden
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: eliteflyer on July 07, 2017, 10:28:40 AM
Option 2, fly into Edmonton, stay Sunday/Monday in Jasper (Monday tour Jasper). Tuesday drive the icefields parkway and meet them in Golden
Interesting suggestion. I didnt check Jasper accommodations, but they were all booked up in Banff for my dates (this is peak season in August). Any thoughts on where to go Friday-Sunday? The notion of spending the weekend at a non-descript off-the-highway hotel in Calgary is very unappealing!
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on July 07, 2017, 11:51:24 AM
Jasper accommodations are the hardest to find.  What are your dates
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 07, 2017, 12:27:30 PM
Interesting suggestion. I didnt check Jasper accommodations, but they were all booked up in Banff for my dates (this is peak season in August). Any thoughts on where to go Friday-Sunday? The notion of spending the weekend at a non-descript off-the-highway hotel in Calgary is very unappealing!
With minyan, I'd go to Edmonton. It's a very nice community.
Without minyan, I think Fairmont Lake Louise would be an amazing place to spend shabbos.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: eliteflyer on July 07, 2017, 02:40:46 PM
Jasper accommodations are the hardest to find.  What are your dates
Aug. 13-20
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 08, 2017, 11:49:38 PM
availability at the fairmont jasper. although it's criminal what they charge
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: amx on July 12, 2017, 01:37:06 PM
Going to banff/canmore next week with 13 month old. Can/should I take the drive to Athabasca Glacier (3 hrs) Is it worth it? and can I do it without the whole tour thing?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 12, 2017, 01:38:20 PM
No point in going if you don't go on the glacier with the tour.
I would definitely go. There are other stops to make on the way as well.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: amx on July 12, 2017, 01:40:18 PM
Ok thanks, The baby will be ok on the snocoach? Do I have to book in advance? Enough time to also do johnson canyon hike in same day? Thanks
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on July 12, 2017, 08:21:12 PM
Ok thanks, The baby will be ok on the snocoach? Do I have to book in advance? Enough time to also do johnson canyon hike in same day? Thanks

You can book in advance online, and you get a 10% discount. No problem taking an infant. The coach just travels to the icefield, and then you are allowed to walk in the demarcated area.
https://www.brewster.ca/attractions-sightseeing/columbia-icefield-glacier-adventure/

You don't have to book in advanced, but it would save you lots of time in the ticket line, as it gets extremely crowded. However, in the early
morning, it's fairly empty.

Duration of the tour is 80 minutes.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: amx on July 16, 2017, 01:53:22 AM
For bringing food into canada do I have to check it in or can I brig it in my carry on (dont wanna risk losing it)?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 16, 2017, 02:48:29 PM
For bringing food into canada do I have to check it in or can I brig it in my carry on (dont wanna risk losing it)?
Same difference
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Hiding on July 16, 2017, 10:40:54 PM
Anyone can recommend where to do ww rafting in the banff/jasper area? It seems the best place is on the kicking horse river, however there are many places that offer it.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on July 18, 2017, 08:50:14 AM
Anyone can recommend where to do ww rafting in the banff/jasper area? It seems the best place is on the kicking horse river, however there are many places that offer it.

There is rafting in Jasper, but it's Level 2, which is calm water, no thrill at all, so not sure if it's worth it.  It might be Level 3 in the early Summer when the water level is higher.

Kicking Horse River would be better (has some level 4) which would be a bit more thrilling & intense.
Title: Smoke from BC
Post by: Specialized on July 18, 2017, 10:01:29 AM
Due to wildfires in BC, visibility is terrible here in Calgary, my assumption is it is no better in the mountains. Anybody out there, please keep us updated about how far north it goes, and what else you can do. Is the ice explorer still good? Can you see in Jasper?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: aarony on July 18, 2017, 11:35:17 AM
wow, this really throws a monkeywrench into our plans.  seems like there is alot of smoke and haze, perhaps we will extend our time in vancouver instead...
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 18, 2017, 11:44:36 AM
Vancouver is still good?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 18, 2017, 11:50:43 AM
One easy way to check visibility in Banff: The banff gondola has an online camera which is updated every few minutes. If you don't like what you see, you can always call Brewster to ask them for visibility on the Gondola.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on July 18, 2017, 01:17:11 PM
One easy way to check visibility in Banff: The banff gondola has an online camera which is updated every few minutes. If you don't like what you see, you can always call Brewster to ask them for visibility on the Gondola.

Also see: http://openmaps.gov.bc.ca/kml/wildfire/map.html & http://firesmoke.ca/forecasts/viewer/run/ops/BSC-WC-01/current/
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: amx on July 19, 2017, 12:45:29 AM
I'm here now went around banff,lake Louise,yoho etc.. definitely a haze not very clear out here but pretty never the less.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on August 02, 2017, 12:45:58 AM
any update on the haze? were leaving end of the week.
Also regarding Calgary, debating between hotel blackfoot and the carriage house inn. Hows the kosher restaurant in the carriage house inn? do they serve Shabbos meals?
Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 04, 2017, 10:50:47 AM
Eh, you're just bitter from ending up in Yoho by mistake .
Is Yoho NP really not worth the time? '
(Or is this just an inside joke?! ;) )
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on August 04, 2017, 10:56:42 AM
(Or is this just an inside joke?! ;) )

That, pretty much .
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 04, 2017, 11:23:07 AM
With minyan, I'd go to Edmonton. It's a very nice community.
Is there a reason to stay in there over Shabbos vs. Calgary?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eliteflyer on August 07, 2017, 04:35:29 PM
Proposed itinerary for next week. We're traveling with 3.5 year old twins and meeting up extended family at a rented house in Kicking Horse Mountain Resort  near Golden, BC. While I'd love to see some popular sites, I'm mindful of the crowds this time of year, and actually prefer a less popular, but still refreshing, day of hiking/mountain biking over waiting in lines to go up a gondola.

Need to fill in a bit.
SUN: Arrive YYC 9:41 PM; Will probably overnight at Marriott YYC Airport (In terminal) due to late arrival
MON: Head out towards Banff; Overnight at Delta Hotels by Marriott Kananaskis Lodge
TUES: Overnight at Kicking Horse Mountain Resort (BC)
WED: Overnight at Kicking Horse Mountain Resort (BC)
THURS: Overnight at Kicking Horse Mountain Resort (BC)
FRI: Overnight TBD (may stay at KHMR)
SAT: Overnight TBD (may stay at KHMR)
SUN: Overnight TBD
MON: Depart YYC 12:30 PM
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 24, 2017, 01:51:24 AM
Is kosher wine and/or GJ readily available in Calgary?
Or is it better to bring along?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: aarony on August 24, 2017, 01:01:16 PM
there is some available
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on August 25, 2017, 10:17:47 AM
Gj is in Superstore on Macleod, Safeway in Glenmore landing, and Sobey's in Bridlewood. Wine is at a few liquor stores, very small selection, Galil wines. I know Co-op on Southland carries, but others do as well. Many of us buy wine in bulk twice a year, so IDK exactly which stores are best for one bottle at a time.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on August 25, 2017, 03:52:47 PM
Co-op on Southland also has GJ in the grocery store and it's on sale for $5.50/1.89 liter.
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on August 25, 2017, 03:58:08 PM
Is there a reason to stay in there over Shabbos vs. Calgary?
Go to Edmonton if you already saw everyone in Calgary during the week and want to meet all the nice folks up north. If you have the time for it, West Edmonton Mall is a great attraction for kids.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eliteflyer on August 25, 2017, 05:13:48 PM
Just to fill in with what we ended up doing. It was a fantastic trip!! I would happily go again.


SUN: Arrive YYC 9:41 PM;  overnight at Homewood Suites YYC ($51 on Hotwire)

MON: Pick up rental car; Visit Tunnel Mountain overlook and take small hike with the kids there; continue west to Lake Louise and walk around the lake (too touristy and crowded for my taste, but the gang really wanted to go and my kids were most excited that they got to ride a school bus from the over flow parking lot to the lake). Overnight at Kicking Horse Mountain Resort (VRBO rented house) in Golden, BC.

TUES: Adult men hiked the 21 km iceline trail in Yoho National Park (pretty moderate/difficult climb) and women took the kids to hike to Wapta Falls in Yoho. Overnight at Kicking Horse Mountain Resort (BC)

WED: Recover from muscle aches! Take the wife and kids to Tatakawa Falls in Yoho for a small hike and look at the falls; spent afternoon renting a canoe with my kids at Emerald Lake in Yoho (pricey at $60 for an hour, but a relative bargain compared to Lake Louise)  Overnight at Kicking Horse Mountain Resort (BC)

THURS: hiked the trail around Emerald Lake with my kids and father-in law while my wife went white-water-rafting with my MIL on the Columbia River; Karaoke in the media room of our vacation home. Overnight at Kicking Horse Mountain Resort (BC)

FRI: Mountain Biking in Golden on the Moonraker trails on Kicking Horse Mountain Resort; Overnight at Kicking Horse Mountain Resort (BC)

SAT: Shabbos at the house and walked around the ski-resort; Overnight at Kicking Horse Mountain Resort (BC)

SUN: Depart Golden, BC; drive bia Bow Valley Parkway, hike Johnston Trail in the morning (over-rated IMHO, but probably because it was so crowded), check into Fairmont Banff Springs Hotel (1 bedroom suite with beautiful mountain views purchased on the DDF) (I thought the service was actually excellent and rooms were well appointed (if not old)) and enjoy a late afternoon/evening stay at the spa.

MON: Drive to YYC, return rental car and Depart  12:30 PM
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 27, 2017, 08:37:37 PM
There seems to be such an array of options for gondolas/chairlifts I'm not really sure which one(s) are worth paying these steep prices for.

There's the
Banff Gondola,
Sunshine Village Gondola/Standish xyz,
Lake Louise Gondola/chairlift,
Mt Norquay chairlift.

Then in Jasper there's the Jasper Skytram.

Every one of these charges a crazy admission and all claim spectacular views.

Can someone knowledgeable here please clarify what's hot and what's not?

TYVMIA
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Flying Fish on August 31, 2017, 11:53:06 PM
How does the free Discovery Pass for Canada Parks work? It says on the website they are available in any CIBC branch. Should I stop on the way to get one, or can I easily get one in Banff?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on September 01, 2017, 12:12:28 AM
There seems to be such an array of options for gondolas/chairlifts I'm not really sure which one(s) are worth paying these steep prices for.

There's the
Banff Gondola,
Sunshine Village Gondola/Standish xyz,
Lake Louise Gondola/chairlift,
Mt Norquay chairlift.

Then in Jasper there's the Jasper Skytram.

Every one of these charges a crazy admission and all claim spectacular views.

Can someone knowledgeable here please clarify what's hot and what's not?

TYVMIA
Why don't u try hiking up the trail leading to the top of the gondola? its a great hike and then you can take the gondola down for half price.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on September 01, 2017, 12:13:46 AM
How does the free Discovery Pass for Canada Parks work? It says on the website they are available in any CIBC branch. Should I stop on the way to get one, or can I easily get one in Banff?
are you talking about the parks pass?
at the entrance they offer it to you at least they did at the waterton national park. the pass is good for all parks...
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on September 01, 2017, 12:34:18 AM
How does the free Discovery Pass for Canada Parks work? It says on the website they are available in any CIBC branch. Should I stop on the way to get one, or can I easily get one in Banff?

I have a couple in Monsey, if that helps you at all. Let me know.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: mordechain on September 01, 2017, 05:07:50 AM
You don't need the actual pass. If there's even someone at the pay Booth they'll wave you right through.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Flying Fish on September 01, 2017, 01:25:35 PM
Thanks for those answers, don't need to bother with it then.

As asked above, how good are the gondola experiences? Is there a point of doing both Lake Louise and Banff, and if not, which one is recommended?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on September 03, 2017, 03:20:09 AM
I didn't check all three but tetween jasper and Banff I would go with jasper (and its cheaper)
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Flying Fish on September 03, 2017, 03:37:05 PM
Anyone have thoughts on Banff Gondola vs Lake Louise vs. Both?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on September 05, 2017, 02:29:07 PM
Anyone have thoughts on Banff Gondola vs Lake Louise vs. Both?
We did the Banff one. If it's cloudy, don't waste your money. We wasted ours.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: aarony on September 05, 2017, 05:01:32 PM
same rule for virtually all Gondolas.  Only go up if it is a clear day...
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Flying Fish on September 12, 2017, 03:13:05 PM
Very true. Last week was smoky from the wildfires, the staff at the Banff gondola recommended that we wait for a clear day (the reservation date/time on the tickets is non-binding). We went up on Sunday as the sun was setting over the peaks. The views were breathtaking. My advice for anyone in the future is that Banff gondola is very worthwhile, as long as it's a clear day. Be sure to climb the boardwalk to the peak.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on March 24, 2018, 11:33:38 PM
Reopening the Banff thread as tourism season begins... We just got in two Bochurim checking out the mountains during Bein Hazmanim. Travel and hotel bookings really heat up after Pesach and onward, so make sure to plan your accommodations in advance. Our two Bochurim ended up in an Airbnb an hour's walk from Shul. We would have loved to host them.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on March 27, 2018, 12:35:29 AM
Reopening the Banff thread as tourism season begins... We just got in two Bochurim checking out the mountains during Bein Hazmanim. Travel and hotel bookings really heat up after Pesach and onward, so make sure to plan your accommodations in advance. Our two Bochurim ended up in an Airbnb an hour's walk from Shul. We would have loved to host them.

Just checked pricing on tickets from nyc for first week in June was 320 a few weeks ago now it's 450

BTW we are thinking f of arriving Sunday to Calgary and depart Thursday from Edmonton.
Is this a good plan?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on March 27, 2018, 09:11:33 AM
Just checked pricing on tickets from nyc for first week in June was 320 a few weeks ago now it's 450

BTW we are thinking f of arriving Sunday to Calgary and depart Thursday from Edmonton.
Is this a good plan?
It will be pretty packed days, if you try doing all the sights. Its very doable though. Don't miss out on Bliss donuts in Edmonton. Best donuts I ever had (In all fairness though I don't eat Cholov Stam)
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 27, 2018, 09:16:35 AM
It will be pretty packed days, if you try doing all the sights. Its very doable though. Don't miss out on Bliss donuts in Edmonton. Best donuts I ever had (In all fairness though I don't eat Cholov Stam)
Have you tried Ungers donuts in CLE or Elite in LA?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on March 27, 2018, 09:33:25 AM
Have you tried Ungers donuts in CLE or Elite in LA?
Yes on both. Ungers didn't impress me. Cafť Elite I forgot about, but yes definitely better than Bliss. 
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 27, 2018, 09:36:09 AM
Yes on both. Ungers didn't impress me. Cafť Elite I forgot about, but yes definitely better than Bliss. 
You had Ungers custard, cinnamon, and miami donuts in the morning and weren't impressed? That's a first.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on March 27, 2018, 09:57:04 AM
You had Ungers custard, cinnamon, and miami donuts in the morning and weren't impressed? That's a first.
just cinnamon (was all they had that day IIRC), it was a very solid donut. I just wasn't blown away, maybe because of all the hype, I was expecting a lot more. I guess its time to go back to CLE to try the other 2. Btw have you ever tried Bliss?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 27, 2018, 09:57:48 AM
just cinnamon (was all they had that day IIRC), it was a very solid donut. I just wasn't blown away, maybe because of all the hype, I was expecting a lot more. I guess its time to go back to CLE to try the other 2. Btw have you ever tried Bliss?
If that's all they had, I doubt you went in the morning when they're fresh...

Never been to YEG.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on March 27, 2018, 10:02:01 AM
If that's all they had, I doubt you went in the morning when they're fresh...

Never been to YEG.
Its been awhile I thought I went right after davening, I don't recall 100%.
Ok, so here is the deal, I will make my way back to CLE, to try all the Ungers flavors. You go YEG and try Bliss, then we will compare notes.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 27, 2018, 10:35:57 AM
Its been awhile I thought I went right after davening, I don't recall 100%.
Ok, so here is the deal, I will make my way back to CLE, to try all the Ungers flavors. You go YEG and try Bliss, then we will compare notes.
Sounds like a plan. Almost went for a Northern lights run, but the forecast was cloudy.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eliteflyer on March 27, 2018, 07:08:56 PM
I open the Banff thread, hoping to relive the amazing hiking and other outdoor experience...and Ungers donuts is the topic de' jour.   :o
Just checked pricing on tickets from nyc for first week in June was 320 a few weeks ago now it's 450

BTW we are thinking f of arriving Sunday to Calgary and depart Thursday from Edmonton.
Is this a good plan?

Certainly "doable". If your intention is to head to Banff, then north through the ice trail to Jasper and snap pictures along the way, I guess you could say you "did" Banff.

Better use of your time, IMHO is to find a base and spend your time enjoying nearby hikes (instead of spending 6+ hours a day driving). Also, Yoho (west of Lake Louise) is tremendously underrated. We spent nearly an entire week hiking there (check out the Iceline trail) and only spent one day doing some shorter hikes in Banff.  We had a large family group and stayed in a rented Airbnb in Golden, BC (which was too far west for my preferences, but worked well for the budget and was reasonable distance, particularly to Yoho).

You're absolutely correct to get your tickets/accommodations secured now rather than later.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on April 02, 2018, 12:29:08 AM
Just checked pricing on tickets from nyc for first week in June was 320 a few weeks ago now it's 450

BTW we are thinking f of arriving Sunday to Calgary and depart Thursday from Edmonton.
Is this a good plan?
I've never done the route through Jasper to Edmonton, preferred to go back to Calgary. The road to Edmonton is empty and dull, and just about as long as coming back. And the ice fields parkway looks different driving the other way. You will never be able to complete all the hikes and trails one way, so you can catch up on the way back.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on April 02, 2018, 01:47:29 AM
Edmonton to Calgary ranks amount the most boring drives I had ever taken.

For the return I took the 11 from Abraham Lake, but that was in the winter and for photography purposes. For regular people, and in the summer, definitely do up and down the Icefields Parkway instead.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on April 12, 2018, 05:43:38 PM
is a weak enough to cover Banff ? is it interesting place to go with kids age 4 and 10 ?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: mordechain on April 12, 2018, 05:46:07 PM
Do your kids enjoy hiking?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on April 12, 2018, 07:49:39 PM
Do your kids enjoy hiking?
I was in Vancouver and they enjoyed it
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on April 13, 2018, 09:34:40 AM
is a weak enough to cover Banff ? is it interesting place to go with kids age 4 and 10 ?
Yes, not everything though... and Yes.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: S209 on April 15, 2018, 04:12:48 PM
Edmonton to Calgary ranks amount the most boring drives I had ever taken.
+1. Sheer boredom for 2.5 hours. Only excitement was being pulled over for going 146 (hence 2.5 not 3 hours)... Typical Canadian, let me off with a warning :)
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: S209 on April 15, 2018, 04:14:21 PM
Yes, not everything though... and Yes.
Drive to Edmonton, stay at the Fantasyland hotel, and check out all the attractions they have at the mall. Super kid friendly. PM me for possible free hotel tickets and attraction passes.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on April 16, 2018, 04:03:45 PM
Will likely be going to banff in the summer and staying at the Fairmont.  I will only be going for 5 days.  I would like to stay in the area and not drive more than I have to but at the same time don't want to miss out on the opportunity.  What would be considered a MUST without driving more then 30 minutes?  I would like to do activities (horseback riding, ATVs, canoeing etc). Is there a specific company anyone can recommends?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 16, 2018, 04:05:02 PM
Criminal to go to Banff and not drive the Icefields parkway.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: whYME on April 16, 2018, 04:08:16 PM
Criminal to go to Banff and not drive the Icefields parkway.
+100
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on April 16, 2018, 05:31:48 PM
Criminal to go to Banff and not drive the Icefields parkway.
+1
Itís not like driving to an activity. The driving is the activity.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on April 16, 2018, 06:18:45 PM
How far out should I drive?
What are best areas to drive/stop? How far would it be from Fairmont Banff?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on April 16, 2018, 06:51:47 PM
How far out should I drive?
What are best areas to drive/stop? How far would it be from Fairmont Banff?
IIRC it wold be like 2-3 hours to the Columbia Icefields if you drove straight. I would go at least that far. Best suggestion would be to get a good guide book and read up on the area.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 16, 2018, 07:31:29 PM
Read my TR.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on April 16, 2018, 08:14:30 PM
IIRC it wold be like 2-3 hours to the Columbia Icefields if you drove straight. I would go at least that far. Best suggestion would be to get a good guide book and read up on the area.
Or that  :)
Read my TR.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on April 23, 2018, 03:26:01 PM
@Dan TR was great an very helpful. Thanks!

Do you recommend the photographer you used there?  If so, please send info.

I will be going from the 28th of June to the 2nd of July BH.  Seems like the dates Im going will be crazy packed because of Canada Day (July 1st), but those are the only days I can go.  Does anyone know if traffic there gets really bad?  Also, is it a bad idea to go to glaciers on a Friday? I believe Shabbos starts past 9pm.




Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2018, 03:31:56 PM
@Dan TR was great an very helpful. Thanks!

Do you recommend the photographer you used there?
Thanks.
Nope.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on April 23, 2018, 03:48:29 PM
I have an app that anyone going to the Banff area must have (if driving yourself). It was recommended to us and we were so happy we downloaded it. Basically it's a GPS type app on your iPhone that gives you the tour of wherever you are at the time, like the ride to Banff, the ride to the icefields. It tells you the history of wherever you're driving at the moment - it knows where you are. It tells you things like how long a particular walk might take and perhaps stop here and not there. It's inexpensive and so worth it. Check the site. I bought the bundle when we went. Here's the site:
https://gypsyguide.com/tour/canadian-rockies/
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on April 24, 2018, 07:10:41 PM
I just to Banff with my kids on Sunday, and it was a perfect day. Slightly pre-season (but parking lots are beginning to fill up), easy paths for strollers on the Tunnel Mountain hoodoo lookout, the candy store reopened. There's a nice new playground which was quiet and had a lot to do.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on May 09, 2018, 07:10:10 PM
Fairmont Lake Louise

1. Anyone used free nights from a "friend" and checked in without an issue?
2. Will they store freezer items?
3. Can you get a microwave in room? or how else can you get meals heated?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on May 10, 2018, 10:43:51 AM
Fairmont Lake Louise

1. Anyone used free nights from a "friend" and checked in without an issue?
2. Will they store freezer items?
3. Can you get a microwave in room? or how else can you get meals heated?
1. I don't know. 2. yes 3. in room - request it (I was on the gold floor but I don't know if that makes a difference for 2 and 3.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Traveler718 on May 14, 2018, 05:42:45 PM
Not the same as a "friend," but I used my wife's free night in Lake Louise without any problems.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on May 22, 2018, 06:25:09 PM
Is it recommended to rent an SUV or is a regular car good for drive up from calgary and IP?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: how on May 22, 2018, 06:42:40 PM
Is it recommended to rent an SUV or is a regular car good for drive up from calgary and IP?
your preference
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Traveler718 on May 23, 2018, 03:44:08 PM
I didn't experience any need for an SUV. As long as you plan to stick to the main roads, a regular car is completely adequate.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on May 23, 2018, 04:13:08 PM
I didn't experience any need for an SUV. As long as you plan to stick to the main roads, a regular car is completely adequate.
I agree. Did the same. All regular roads.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on May 23, 2018, 04:49:08 PM
is Banff a good place to go with kids age 4 and 10 ? if yes how long should we stay in order to cover it in full ?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on May 24, 2018, 08:05:05 AM
is Banff a good place to go with kids age 4 and 10 ? if yes how long should we stay in order to cover it in full ?
Yes, but you need to plan how to help the four year old with the long, scenic parts and limit the hikes. Look for playgrounds, candy stores. Any amount of time is good, but most people take a few days to a week.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on May 24, 2018, 11:36:23 AM
is Banff a good place to go with kids age 4 and 10 ? if yes how long should we stay in order to cover it in full ?
We didn't go with children but most of it is sightseeing, walking around. It's beautiful nature. Not sure how much a 4 year old would get out of it. As adults it was incredible. We went early sunday morning until late Thursday night and we found it enough time. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eliteflyer on May 25, 2018, 10:02:05 AM
We didn't go with children but most of it is sightseeing, walking around. It's beautiful nature. Not sure how much a 4 year old would get out of it. As adults it was incredible. We went early sunday morning until late Thursday night and we found it enough time. Just my opinion.
Our kids (almost 4 at the time) enjoyed and did many of the easier hikes.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on May 25, 2018, 11:20:53 AM
Our kids (almost 4 at the time) enjoyed and did many of the easier hikes.

how long did u stay there ? where did u stay ? and what did u cover with the kids ?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on May 25, 2018, 12:08:56 PM
Definitely doable with kids.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: whYME on May 28, 2018, 11:34:46 AM
I didn't experience any need for an SUV. As long as you plan to stick to the main roads, a regular car is completely adequate.
Depends how deep the snow is (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji85.png)
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Dawie on May 28, 2018, 11:39:30 AM
there goes the neighborhood
https://pagesix.com/2018/05/28/prince-harry-meghan-markle-to-honeymoon-in-worlds-most-boring-place/
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on June 10, 2018, 07:18:53 PM
How far in advance should i be booking activities? 
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on June 11, 2018, 12:40:50 AM
The activities can be planned on the day you go, but the hotels need to be reserved in advance. It gets pretty packed this time of year.
I wouldn't plan activities too far in advance because the weather can change. Just get a general view of the type of things you want to do and let nature run it's course.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on June 12, 2018, 07:54:33 PM
How far in advance should i be booking activities?
Day of is fine, even during tourist season.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on June 25, 2018, 04:05:23 PM
Will be traveling to Banff Wednesday and my passport expires mid August.  Was brought to my attention today that this may be a problem.  Is there going to be any issue? TIA

Probably wrong thread but if someone can direct me into the right forum it would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on June 25, 2018, 07:08:51 PM
We never had a problem with passports that were soon to expire, but people recommend renewing when it gets close. US passport centers have an expedited service if you need it.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on June 29, 2018, 09:42:16 PM
Thanks!

Currently here and its beautiful.  Looking to stay an extra night at Fairmont Lake Louise if I can find a certificate.

Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on July 01, 2018, 05:54:40 PM
Thanks!

Currently here and its beautiful.  Looking to stay an extra night at Fairmont Lake Louise if I can find a certificate.



how is the weather there now it looks bad ?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on July 02, 2018, 01:37:13 PM
Not summer but hasn't been bad.  Like 60 degrees.  Weather varies throughout the day based on location.  Not much rain if thats what you are asking.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: fkmk on July 05, 2018, 11:02:15 AM
Any minyanim happening week of June 29th?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Matzav26 on July 05, 2018, 12:29:02 PM
I'm assuming you mean July 29th, week after tisha b'av?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: fkmk on July 05, 2018, 01:01:54 PM
yes, got my months wrong.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on July 17, 2018, 12:47:14 PM
Mini TR
June 28th-  Arrived into Calgary and drove up to Fairmont Banff Springs (about 1 hr).  Once checked in, we went horseback riding by the stables near the hotel.  We spotted a caribou on the bottom of the fairmont driveway just hanging out which was a nice surprise.  Later we walked to Banff Ave which was basically a bunch of restaurants and souvenir shops.  However, walking anywhere in Banff was beautiful with the amazing scenery.
June 29th- 
Morraine Lake: We were jetlagged so we woke up at about 5am and headed out to Morraine Lake.  No way to overhype the beautiful views and color of the lake. Much nicer than any pictures were able to capture.  We didn't know there was a trail up the rockpile so we climbed up which was fun.  Lot filled up by 7:30am so was great we were able to hang out before people started coming.   
Lake Louise: Lake Louise was beautiful as well (about 20 minutes from Morraine).  There were a lot more people around the area when we arrived at 815am.  However, we rented a canoe and it was a beautiful and very relaxing activity.  After the canoeing we headed back to the hotel Spa.
Johnstons Canyon: we headed to Johnstons Canyon at about 3:30pm.  Probably the most crowded hike in the Banff area that we did.  However, midway through the hike it was starting to clear.  Nice hike to the Upper falls.  I found the lower falls to be really nice as well because of the proximity to the waterfalls.  Really nice experience coming from someone that doesn't really hike much.  We didn't spot much wildlife but it was just a really nice walk.
June 30th-
Walked around the hotel area, spray river and bow falls in the afternoon.  We spotted like 7 elk which was nice.  Shabbat ended about 1105 so we had a nice amount of time to walk around the hotel area and enjoy the surrounding area.
July 1st-
Glaciers: Left to the Glaciers at about 7am and arrived at about 9.  We were able to catch the first snocoach to the glacier which was really nice because we had it all to ourselves.  Was a pretty unique experience.  I took everyones advice and skipped the skywalk which did not seem that appealing anyway when we passed by.
IP: We enjoyed the IP more on the way back since we wanted to make sure to get to the glacier as early as possible.  It was probably the nicest drive I ever experienced.  On the way back we stopped at Peyto and a couple other lakes.  Was amazing to experience such amazing views without much effort.  Truly a lifetime experience.  These glacier fed lakes never get old and look fake. 
July 2nd-
Went to Lake Minnewanka and walked around the trails and had lunch.  Then headed back to hotel and was able to spot more elk and another caribou on the way.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on July 17, 2018, 01:53:02 PM
Nice, thanks for the TR.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on July 17, 2018, 02:16:16 PM
It's a shame to see people going to Moraine Lake,  skip the best part to hike on to Consolation Lake, 3km each way flat along a stream.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 17, 2018, 03:07:25 PM
Sounds like an amazing trip. It's always good to hear trick to get to Moraine Lake for non-hikers. Just a little mention - if you happen to come into our shul, we have a printout of the attractions written up by one of the locals. It should help you know what to look for on your trip.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on July 17, 2018, 05:18:46 PM
Sounds like an amazing trip. It's always good to hear trick to get to Moraine Lake for non-hikers. Just a little mention - if you happen to come into our shul, we have a printout of the attractions written up by one of the locals. It should help you know what to look for on your trip.

Where is u shul ? is there any way u can email it to me or put up on this site
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on July 17, 2018, 05:19:45 PM
Mini TR
June 28th-  Arrived into Calgary and drove up to Fairmont Banff Springs (about 1 hr).  Once checked in, we went horseback riding by the stables near the hotel.  We spotted a caribou on the bottom of the fairmont driveway just hanging out which was a nice surprise.  Later we walked to Banff Ave which was basically a bunch of restaurants and souvenir shops.  However, walking anywhere in Banff was beautiful with the amazing scenery.
June 29th- 
Morraine Lake: We were jetlagged so we woke up at about 5am and headed out to Morraine Lake.  No way to overhype the beautiful views and color of the lake. Much nicer than any pictures were able to capture.  We didn't know there was a trail up the rockpile so we climbed up which was fun.  Lot filled up by 7:30am so was great we were able to hang out before people started coming.   
Lake Louise: Lake Louise was beautiful as well (about 20 minutes from Morraine).  There were a lot more people around the area when we arrived at 815am.  However, we rented a canoe and it was a beautiful and very relaxing activity.  After the canoeing we headed back to the hotel Spa.
Johnstons Canyon: we headed to Johnstons Canyon at about 3:30pm.  Probably the most crowded hike in the Banff area that we did.  However, midway through the hike it was starting to clear.  Nice hike to the Upper falls.  I found the lower falls to be really nice as well because of the proximity to the waterfalls.  Really nice experience coming from someone that doesn't really hike much.  We didn't spot much wildlife but it was just a really nice walk.
June 30th-
Walked around the hotel area, spray river and bow falls in the afternoon.  We spotted like 7 elk which was nice.  Shabbat ended about 1105 so we had a nice amount of time to walk around the hotel area and enjoy the surrounding area.
July 1st-
Glaciers: Left to the Glaciers at about 7am and arrived at about 9.  We were able to catch the first snocoach to the glacier which was really nice because we had it all to ourselves.  Was a pretty unique experience.  I took everyones advice and skipped the skywalk which did not seem that appealing anyway when we passed by.
IP: We enjoyed the IP more on the way back since we wanted to make sure to get to the glacier as early as possible.  It was probably the nicest drive I ever experienced.  On the way back we stopped at Peyto and a couple other lakes.  Was amazing to experience such amazing views without much effort.  Truly a lifetime experience.  These glacier fed lakes never get old and look fake. 
July 2nd-
Went to Lake Minnewanka and walked around the trails and had lunch.  Then headed back to hotel and was able to spot more elk and another caribou on the way.


thanks for the write up is all u did doable with kids age 4 and 10 ? do u have any pic ?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 18, 2018, 08:16:47 AM
Where is u shul ? is there any way u can email it to me or put up on this site
It is called House of Jacob Mikveh Israel. Their website is hojmi.org.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eandd on July 26, 2018, 01:28:22 PM
Mini TR
June 28th-  Arrived into Calgary and drove up to Fairmont Banff Springs (about 1 hr).  Once checked in, we went horseback riding by the stables near the hotel.  We spotted a caribou on the bottom of the fairmont driveway just hanging out which was a nice surprise.  Later we walked to Banff Ave which was basically a bunch of restaurants and souvenir shops.  However, walking anywhere in Banff was beautiful with the amazing scenery.
June 29th- 
Morraine Lake: We were jetlagged so we woke up at about 5am and headed out to Morraine Lake.  No way to overhype the beautiful views and color of the lake. Much nicer than any pictures were able to capture.  We didn't know there was a trail up the rockpile so we climbed up which was fun.  Lot filled up by 7:30am so was great we were able to hang out before people started coming.   
Lake Louise: Lake Louise was beautiful as well (about 20 minutes from Morraine).  There were a lot more people around the area when we arrived at 815am.  However, we rented a canoe and it was a beautiful and very relaxing activity.  After the canoeing we headed back to the hotel Spa.
Johnstons Canyon: we headed to Johnstons Canyon at about 3:30pm.  Probably the most crowded hike in the Banff area that we did.  However, midway through the hike it was starting to clear.  Nice hike to the Upper falls.  I found the lower falls to be really nice as well because of the proximity to the waterfalls.  Really nice experience coming from someone that doesn't really hike much.  We didn't spot much wildlife but it was just a really nice walk.
June 30th-
Walked around the hotel area, spray river and bow falls in the afternoon.  We spotted like 7 elk which was nice.  Shabbat ended about 1105 so we had a nice amount of time to walk around the hotel area and enjoy the surrounding area.
July 1st-
Glaciers: Left to the Glaciers at about 7am and arrived at about 9.  We were able to catch the first snocoach to the glacier which was really nice because we had it all to ourselves.  Was a pretty unique experience.  I took everyones advice and skipped the skywalk which did not seem that appealing anyway when we passed by.
IP: We enjoyed the IP more on the way back since we wanted to make sure to get to the glacier as early as possible.  It was probably the nicest drive I ever experienced.  On the way back we stopped at Peyto and a couple other lakes.  Was amazing to experience such amazing views without much effort.  Truly a lifetime experience.  These glacier fed lakes never get old and look fake. 
July 2nd-
Went to Lake Minnewanka and walked around the trails and had lunch.  Then headed back to hotel and was able to spot more elk and another caribou on the way.
Thank you for taking the time to write up, will be helpful for our trip in August! Any notable stops on the icefields parkways besides for Peyto lake?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eandd on July 26, 2018, 01:31:26 PM
For anyone whose spent shabbos in Calgary: any points hotels in walking distance from the shul (45min)? Does the shul take in shabbos early in August? Thanks!
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on July 26, 2018, 03:23:39 PM
For anyone whose spent shabbos in Calgary: any points hotels in walking distance from the shul (45min)? Does the shul take in shabbos early in August? Thanks!

Yes, they take Shabbos early, Mincha was about two hours before sunset. I stayed in a hotel 45 minutes away. The walk wasn't so pedestrian friendly, extremely wide roads - and walking signals require a push button.

The hotel in Calgary confirmed with me that I would be able to use the stairs. Came back Friday night, and the access to the stairs was locked. Had to argue for a long time with the hotel staff, until they finally allowed me to use the stairs. Plus having to use electric tape on the door, so I can enter without a card.  Next time, I would rather stay in an airbnb.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 27, 2018, 04:50:13 PM
I just did an amazing activity around Banff, best to do after you've seen it and know the way around. Calgary Flying Club is the cheapest way to see Banff by air. Get a one hour flying lesson from Springbank airport on a clear day. You circle around Lake Mennewanka and come back. Anyone can do it. The instructor does the takeoff and landing, you just steer and control lift once at 8000 feet. You fly between the mountains. Two passengers are free. A family of six can have one parent fly each plane. Mornings are usually clearer than the afternoon. I did it and it was awesome.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 27, 2018, 04:52:00 PM
Yes, they take Shabbos early, Mincha was about two hours before sunset. I stayed in a hotel 45 minutes away. The walk wasn't so pedestrian friendly, extremely wide roads - and walking signals require a push button.

The hotel in Calgary confirmed with me that I would be able to use the stairs. Came back Friday night, and the access to the stairs was locked. Had to argue for a long time with the hotel staff, until they finally allowed me to use the stairs. Plus having to use electric tape on the door, so I can enter without a card.  Next time, I would rather stay in an airbnb.
Or you can stay with a local family for Shabbos.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on July 27, 2018, 04:56:23 PM
I just did an amazing activity around Banff, best to do after you've seen it and know the way around. Calgary Flying Club is the cheapest way to see Banff by air. Get a one hour flying lesson from Springbank airport on a clear day. You circle around Lake Mennewanka and come back. Anyone can do it. The instructor does the takeoff and landing, you just steer and control lift once at 8000 feet. You fly between the mountains. Two passengers are free. A family of six can have one parent fly each plane. Mornings are usually clearer than the afternoon. I did it and it was awesome.

Why not post the price in your post?

Book a 30 min flight for 94.50$ per person or 1h flight for 223.65$ for up to 3 people.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eandd on July 30, 2018, 05:04:25 PM
Yes, they take Shabbos early, Mincha was about two hours before sunset. I stayed in a hotel 45 minutes away. The walk wasn't so pedestrian friendly, extremely wide roads - and walking signals require a push button.

The hotel in Calgary confirmed with me that I would be able to use the stairs. Came back Friday night, and the access to the stairs was locked. Had to argue for a long time with the hotel staff, until they finally allowed me to use the stairs. Plus having to use electric tape on the door, so I can enter without a card.  Next time, I would rather stay in an airbnb.

Thank you for your reply, would you mind posting which hotel you had stayed at?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eandd on July 30, 2018, 05:05:34 PM
Or you can stay with a local family for Shabbos.

Are there families that host for sleeping, or is it normally just for meals?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 31, 2018, 06:37:06 PM
Families host for both. Obviously, it depends on availability, etc and depends who is out of town. But we usually handle the traffic.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on August 14, 2018, 01:03:21 AM
thanks for the write up is all u did doable with kids age 4 and 10 ? do u have any pic ?
Everything besides Johnstons Canyon in my opinion.  We did see younger kids but if you saw their faces it did not look like they were enjoying.  I am also not sure if there are any age or other requirements for the kayaks at Lake Louise, but give them a call at the Fairmont.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on August 14, 2018, 01:04:38 AM
Thank you for taking the time to write up, will be helpful for our trip in August! Any notable stops on the icefields parkways besides for Peyto lake?

There are many along the way that will be hard to miss.  However, the 5 minute hike to Peyto was definitely a highlight.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on August 14, 2018, 04:12:31 PM
Thank you for taking the time to write up, will be helpful for our trip in August! Any notable stops on the icefields parkways besides for Peyto lake?

This has 100s

I have an app that anyone going to the Banff area must have (if driving yourself). It was recommended to us and we were so happy we downloaded it. Basically it's a GPS type app on your iPhone that gives you the tour of wherever you are at the time, like the ride to Banff, the ride to the icefields. It tells you the history of wherever you're driving at the moment - it knows where you are. It tells you things like how long a particular walk might take and perhaps stop here and not there. It's inexpensive and so worth it. Check the site. I bought the bundle when we went. Here's the site:
https://gypsyguide.com/tour/canadian-rockies/
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on August 15, 2018, 09:40:58 AM
It's wildfire season and that means visibility is unpredictable. Anybody out there, please post where it is clear. Right now, it looks like the best things are localized hikes, such as Grassi Lakes in Canmore.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Dd80 on August 16, 2018, 01:29:12 AM
Itís a really disappointing time here. Iíve spent so much time reading and researching this trip to Banff and Jasper with my family and itís all a massive disaster. We canít do anything as all there is outside is a big brown sky, zero visibility and strong smell of smoke. There is no gorgeous blue skies and green lakes- just brown brown and more brown as the skies are filled with smoke. We started in whistler where we couldnít even do the peak to peak gondola due to the horrible visibility- headed onto our RV trip which turned into mindless hours of smoke filled skies instead of the amazing scenery Iíve been looking forward to for years! Literally years spent reading everyoneís trip notes and drooling over pictures... itís now the fourth day of our trip here, weíve done some water activity but itís been so upsetting as there is a low brown sky and no visibility at all- I have not seen a blue sky or direct sim since Seattle last weekend. Tomorrow we have our Glaciers trip planned  but not holding my breath for any kind of classic Canadian Rockies scenery- has anyone else had this experience?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on August 16, 2018, 11:27:12 AM
Itís a really disappointing time here. Iíve spent so much time reading and researching this trip to Banff and Jasper with my family and itís all a massive disaster. We canít do anything as all there is outside is a big brown sky, zero visibility and strong smell of smoke. There is no gorgeous blue skies and green lakes- just brown brown and more brown as the skies are filled with smoke. We started in whistler where we couldnít even do the peak to peak gondola due to the horrible visibility- headed onto our RV trip which turned into mindless hours of smoke filled skies instead of the amazing scenery Iíve been looking forward to for years! Literally years spent reading everyoneís trip notes and drooling over pictures... itís now the fourth day of our trip here, weíve done some water activity but itís been so upsetting as there is a low brown sky and no visibility at all- I have not seen a blue sky or direct sim since Seattle last weekend. Tomorrow we have our Glaciers trip planned  but not holding my breath for any kind of classic Canadian Rockies scenery- has anyone else had this experience?

Wow
https://globalnews.ca/news/4390603/banff-officials-expect-busy-season-to-continue-despite-wildfire-smoke/
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on August 16, 2018, 03:55:08 PM
Itís a really disappointing time here. Iíve spent so much time reading and researching this trip to Banff and Jasper with my family and itís all a massive disaster. We canít do anything as all there is outside is a big brown sky, zero visibility and strong smell of smoke. There is no gorgeous blue skies and green lakes- just brown brown and more brown as the skies are filled with smoke. We started in whistler where we couldnít even do the peak to peak gondola due to the horrible visibility- headed onto our RV trip which turned into mindless hours of smoke filled skies instead of the amazing scenery Iíve been looking forward to for years! Literally years spent reading everyoneís trip notes and drooling over pictures... itís now the fourth day of our trip here, weíve done some water activity but itís been so upsetting as there is a low brown sky and no visibility at all- I have not seen a blue sky or direct sim since Seattle last weekend. Tomorrow we have our Glaciers trip planned  but not holding my breath for any kind of classic Canadian Rockies scenery- has anyone else had this experience?

Athabasca falls should be good without strong visibility. Try anything where you look down for the view. Try the Mistaya Canyon. Can you see the Bridal Veil Falls or the Tangle falls? We are looking for solutions.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eandd on August 16, 2018, 04:45:49 PM
Thats so disappointing! How long do these situations typically last?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on August 19, 2018, 01:15:46 AM
Thats so disappointing! How long do these situations typically last?
The wildfires go as long as they go, but the smoke sometimes clears with change of wind or rain. People are hoping for something better by Sunday night, but you never know. This current fire is not yet contained.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on August 19, 2018, 01:44:01 AM
http://cwfis.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/interactive-map?zoom=0.8&center=400000%2C1000000&month=8&day=19&year=2018#wb-cont

This is an interactive wildfire map to help plan your trip.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eandd on August 19, 2018, 03:22:22 PM
http://cwfis.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/interactive-map?zoom=0.8&center=400000%2C1000000&month=8&day=19&year=2018#wb-cont

This is an interactive wildfire map to help plan your trip.

Thank you! was planning a trip for early September, thinking of pushing off until after Sukkot. Around when did the smoke finally clear last year?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on August 19, 2018, 07:19:09 PM
Thank you! was planning a trip for early September, thinking of pushing off until after Sukkot. Around when did the smoke finally clear last year?
I don't remember, some time around then.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Friars500 on August 20, 2018, 10:44:14 AM
Itís a really disappointing time here. Iíve spent so much time reading and researching this trip to Banff and Jasper with my family and itís all a massive disaster. We canít do anything as all there is outside is a big brown sky, zero visibility and strong smell of smoke. There is no gorgeous blue skies and green lakes- just brown brown and more brown as the skies are filled with smoke. We started in whistler where we couldnít even do the peak to peak gondola due to the horrible visibility- headed onto our RV trip which turned into mindless hours of smoke filled skies instead of the amazing scenery Iíve been looking forward to for years! Literally years spent reading everyoneís trip notes and drooling over pictures... itís now the fourth day of our trip here, weíve done some water activity but itís been so upsetting as there is a low brown sky and no visibility at all- I have not seen a blue sky or direct sim since Seattle last weekend. Tomorrow we have our Glaciers trip planned  but not holding my breath for any kind of classic Canadian Rockies scenery- has anyone else had this experience?

Not that it will make you feel any better, but Vancouver is the same. I could copy and paste your paragraph, replace the local Banff stuff with local Vancouver and paste.

It really sucks, there wasn't a word of this in the forums and all this expense for nada. I can't even properly express ny anger and disappointment.

In short, Canada sucks.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eandd on August 20, 2018, 12:42:17 PM
Not that it will make you feel any better, but Vancouver is the same. I could copy and paste your paragraph, replace the local Banff stuff with local Vancouver and paste.

It really sucks, there wasn't a word of this in the forums and all this expense for nada. I can't even properly express ny anger and disappointment.

In short, Canada sucks.

Uhhh I don't think Canada can control things like the wind blowing smoke and impeding visibility.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Dawie on August 20, 2018, 01:06:02 PM
Uhhh I don't think Canada can control things like the wind blowing smoke and impeding visibility.
Justin got the technology from the Israeli's
The Iranians told him  ;D
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: aarony on August 20, 2018, 02:22:40 PM
we had the same issue last year in vancouver ,whistler and banff..
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on August 20, 2018, 03:30:04 PM
I was in Vancouver for a week in Aug 2years ago was beautiful weather .
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Friars500 on August 20, 2018, 04:37:57 PM
we had the same issue last year in vancouver ,whistler and banff..

Did you post about it?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eandd on August 20, 2018, 05:20:39 PM
I'm sure it's extremely disappointing, but these things are bound to happen. When I was in New Zealand  (in high season which is "dry") there was a huge cyclone that impeded visibility for most of our time there. Just means that you have a reason to go back!
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on August 20, 2018, 07:55:46 PM
Family came to visit, so we went to the mountains today. Lots of visitors, it was beautiful. I personally like it when it is a bit misty, and the smoke was quite reduced today. Even so, we went to Johnston Canyon to make sure nothing was ruined by smoke. The parking lots were full and there were many people parked on the road.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eandd on September 16, 2018, 12:33:26 PM
Ended up moving up our Banff trip to October due to smokey conditions.

Anyone been that time of year? I know the weather can be variable, but what was your experience?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on September 16, 2018, 01:25:53 PM
Ended up moving up our Banff trip to October due to smokey conditions.

Anyone been that time of year? I know the weather can be variable, but what was your experience?

Well at the moment it's snowing like crazy. So who knows.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on September 16, 2018, 11:52:19 PM
Ended up moving up our Banff trip to October due to smokey conditions.

Anyone been that time of year? I know the weather can be variable, but what was your experience?
It might warm up a bit, but will most likely be cold, not as bad as typical Banff winters. You will still be able to visit all of the attractions, and a little bit of snow makes the mountains more beautiful. Much smaller chance of smoke, you probably will get some snow. If it does snow enough, you might be able to ski.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on September 16, 2018, 11:53:54 PM
Well at the moment it's snowing like crazy. So who knows.

It happens in September here sometimes, but not very seasonal. We rarely get snow on Sukkos and it melts.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eandd on September 17, 2018, 03:12:06 PM
It happens in September here sometimes, but not very seasonal. We rarely get snow on Sukkos and it melts.
Thanks! From what I read, it's common to get snow this time of year but then it stops for a bit? Would really like to drive the icefields parkway, but don't think I want to risk it if there's snow
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eandd on September 17, 2018, 03:14:05 PM
It might warm up a bit, but will most likely be cold, not as bad as typical Banff winters. You will still be able to visit all of the attractions, and a little bit of snow makes the mountains more beautiful. Much smaller chance of smoke, you probably will get some snow. If it does snow enough, you might be able to ski.
Didn't see this before, thank you for the resident perspective! I don't mind if it's cold, but would like to be able to hike...
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: whYME on September 17, 2018, 03:19:33 PM
Would really like to drive the icefields parkway, but don't think I want to risk it if there's snow
I wouldn't worry about that too much. It's not NYC, they keep the roads clear.

I was there in the dead of winter and loved it. Although admittedly that's not for everyone.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on September 17, 2018, 03:33:23 PM
I wouldn't worry about that too much. It's not NYC, they keep the roads clear.

I was there in the dead of winter and loved it. Although admittedly that's not for everyone.

Absolutely, fully agree.

The roads were often covered with snow, but perfectly derivable. It was off the roads when the fun started ;D ;D ;D.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eandd on September 20, 2018, 02:26:24 PM
Thanks for the reassurances :D although I have experience with winter driving, I don't want to get into that kinda fun while away from home...
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eandd on September 20, 2018, 02:26:55 PM
I wouldn't worry about that too much. It's not NYC, they keep the roads clear.

I was there in the dead of winter and loved it. Although admittedly that's not for everyone.

Any chance of a trip report?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: whYME on September 20, 2018, 02:46:56 PM
Any chance of a trip report?
yes, it's on @Something Fishy's list (http://goo.gl/ewG5kS). give it about 3 years. :))


Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on October 03, 2018, 01:33:48 PM
We just had about 15 to 20 inches of snow on Simchas Torah. They say October snow always melts. Friday should bring some warmer, clearer weather.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: eandd on October 03, 2018, 05:50:26 PM
We just had about 15 to 20 inches of snow on Simchas Torah. They say October snow always melts. Friday should bring some warmer, clearer weather.

Thanks for the update!
Sure hope so, I have a trip booked for this sunday, and forecast shows cloudy and snow every day
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: YesThatsMe on January 13, 2019, 11:24:12 AM
Is there any shul/kosher in Banff 1/24-1/29?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on April 23, 2019, 11:35:42 PM
We live in Calgary, so a trip to the mountains is a day trip. My kids have a hard time driving more than 2 hours, so we try to stay local to the Banff area, sometimes Lake Louise and Yoho. This was our first time going to Kootenay. We went for a Chol Hamoed trip, and packed enough Matza, etc. to make it work. The views from the East side of the highway are majestic the whole way, and we loved the Marble Canyon. If we had more time, we would have hiked to the ink pots and worked harder to find hot springs. April is a perfect time to go, because it is not yet wildfire season, but the weather is good.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: ar on May 20, 2019, 11:31:25 PM
Hello - we are going to Banff (Fairmont) & I've got some questions!

Based on reading everyone's reports and highlights, this is what I came up with (I have 3 full days there):

Day 1
-Banff area
-Johnson Canyon hike

Day 2
-Lake Louise
-Moraine Lake

Day 3
-Colombia Icefield Glacier

Questions are:
1) Is it worth it to treck to the Glaciers and kill a day? Can I combine day 2 & 3?
2) On google maps, it shows that from Lake Louise to Moraine is a 80 min drive (15 KM!), does this make sense?
3) From Banff to Johnson Canyon, we can either drive with hwy 1A or with Trans Canada hwy, which one is nicer, more scenic?
4) Which lake is to nicest to boat? Moraine looks the best to me..
5) Finally, did I miss anything here?

Thanks in advance for your input!
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: ar on May 21, 2019, 04:30:44 PM
Bump, any thoughts?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Traveler718 on May 21, 2019, 04:58:33 PM
I may be in the minority, but Banff township was by far my least favorite area in the Canadian Rockies, and I also found Johnston Canyon (not Johnson) extremely crowded and overrated, but I'm also a fairly hard-core hiker.

Day 2 is a wonderful day and I wouldn't combine it with day 3 unless you're not planning to do any hikes at all. It should not take you anywhere near 80 minutes to get from LL to ML, but the earlier you go, the less traffic you'll have (narrow mountain roads with 1 lane in each direction).

1A largely parallels TCH, but is considered more scenic with better chance of wildlife sightings, but also a little slower than TCH. I didn't boat, so no help there. There are some beautiful waterfalls along the Icefields Parkway past Columbia Icefield that you may be able to get to if you get an early start. Do not waste your time or $ on the Skywalk. Absolute must-sees are Peyto Lake and Bow Lake.

You may also wish to go to Yoho NP in the area for Emerald Lake and Takakkaw Falls - all far better than Banff IMO.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: ar on May 21, 2019, 05:06:02 PM
I may be in the minority, but Banff township was by far my least favorite area in the Canadian Rockies, and I also found Johnston Canyon (not Johnson) extremely crowded and overrated, but I'm also a fairly hard-core hiker.

Day 2 is a wonderful day and I wouldn't combine it with day 3 unless you're not planning to do any hikes at all. It should not take you anywhere near 80 minutes to get from LL to ML, but the earlier you go, the less traffic you'll have (narrow mountain roads with 1 lane in each direction).

1A largely parallels TCH, but is considered more scenic with better chance of wildlife sightings, but also a little slower than TCH. I didn't boat, so no help there. There are some beautiful waterfalls along the Icefields Parkway past Columbia Icefield that you may be able to get to if you get an early start. Do not waste your time or $ on the Skywalk. Absolute must-sees are Peyto Lake and Bow Lake.

You may also wish to go to Yoho NP in the area for Emerald Lake and Takakkaw Falls - all far better than Banff IMO.

Thanks so much for the info! So maybe I should skip the Glacier adventure since its wasting a full day and do one of the other lakes instead? Or can should I combine the Glaciers with something else?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: aarony on May 21, 2019, 05:06:55 PM
1)itís worth the trip just to see the Icefield parkway. you donít have to Do the bus onto the glacier. You can walk up to an area close to the Glacier on your own.    There are many beautiful places to stop along the parkway.  You should get the gypsy app.  Do not combine this day with anything else it takes time to drive to Parkway and make stops.   

2)It is not that far from Lake Louise.    They are very close to each other.  Parking at Morraine can be difficult so do your research

3)I donít remember,  one of them is faster and that is the one I would recommend
4)Both lakes are beautiful for boating I did Lake Louise at sunrise and really enjoyed that. Prices are steep

5) donít try to do everything it is impossible!  If you drive the icefield parkway make sure you stop at Peyto lake.

Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: ar on May 21, 2019, 05:10:55 PM
Got it!

So I guess I'll do the Glaciers and enjoy the drive.. and stop by one of the lakes on the way..

Thanks for all your help, will report back after the trip!
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Traveler718 on May 22, 2019, 11:05:36 AM
Bow Lake is directly on the road, Peyto is a pull-out plus a 5-10 minute short walk to the lake, but is the most beautiful sight on the road - do not miss! But they're not full-day activities; you spend 10-20 minutes taking pics at each and then move on. I didn't do the drive out onto the glacier because I thought it was too commercialized, and I had done actually walking on glaciers in Alaska.

I got great views overlooking the glacier (and the buses driving onto it) from a hike in the area, but I believe you can also see it just from the parking area where you sign up for the buses. Depending on what time it is when you get there, you can decide if you have time to continue before turning around. Another vote for the Gypsy app - I almost never pay $ for apps, but it was wonderful and greatly enhanced the experience!
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: ar on May 22, 2019, 11:45:10 AM
Bow Lake is directly on the road, Peyto is a pull-out plus a 5-10 minute short walk to the lake, but is the most beautiful sight on the road - do not miss! But they're not full-day activities; you spend 10-20 minutes taking pics at each and then move on. I didn't do the drive out onto the glacier because I thought it was too commercialized, and I had done actually walking on glaciers in Alaska.

I got great views overlooking the glacier (and the buses driving onto it) from a hike in the area, but I believe you can also see it just from the parking area where you sign up for the buses. Depending on what time it is when you get there, you can decide if you have time to continue before turning around. Another vote for the Gypsy app - I almost never pay $ for apps, but it was wonderful and greatly enhanced the experience!

Cool - thanks!
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: KSMH on June 25, 2019, 12:14:59 AM
Flying from YYC - YVR, is it worth making a stop in YEG (YYC-YEG-YVR) to check out West Edmonton Mall?

If yes how long does the actual stop need to be to enough time getting out of the airport spending 1 - 2 HR at mall and getting back?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 01, 2019, 02:49:02 PM
Flying from YYC - YVR, is it worth making a stop in YEG (YYC-YEG-YVR) to check out West Edmonton Mall?

If yes how long does the actual stop need to be to enough time getting out of the airport spending 1 - 2 HR at mall and getting back?
The airport is at the outskirts of Edmonton and the mall is at least a half hour in. Summer is construction season, so you need to plan for the unexpected. Watch for speed cameras, tickets can be pretty expensive.
Title: A Few Pointers
Post by: Specialized on July 02, 2019, 06:59:40 PM
1. Since weather and visibility are unpredictable, plan a few places in each locale that are localized views rather than expansive views, for a rainy day. For example, a waterfall can be seen very well on a foggy day, but you won't see the mountains - don't take the gondola that day.
2. If you like quieter spots, check out Canmore and Kananaskis. The locals go there often, but they are not as world famous as an attraction. The hiking trails are just as  breathtaking, though. You can use these as an option for a Friday trip when staying in Calgary for Shabbos.
3. If you are coming this week, check out the Calgary Stampede. It runs from this Friday to July 14. The whole city gets in on it, and there are marching bands, rodeos every day, fireworks every night, and carnival style attractions.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 03, 2019, 12:10:17 AM
Another awesome local thing to do (when possible) is to visit Spruce Meadows in Calgary. They primarily host horse jumping competitions, but the big ones come with their own attractions. For example, this Sunday on July 7th (after the Shul's free Stampede Breakfast) you can watch numerous outdoor band performances, BMX riders on a halfpipe, and 100 soldiers firing rifles into the air in succession. If you happen to be stuck in Calgary due to visibility, weather, or some other complication, or if you already saw the mountains and your flight is later in the day, this is the place to go.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 03, 2019, 09:14:58 AM
Flying from YYC - YVR, is it worth making a stop in YEG (YYC-YEG-YVR) to check out West Edmonton Mall?

If yes how long does the actual stop need to be to enough time getting out of the airport spending 1 - 2 HR at mall and getting back?
Mall is nothing major, not worth extra stop IMO.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: pghtown on July 03, 2019, 09:21:37 AM
Arriving in Calgary later Friday afternoon. What options are there for prepared Shabbos food? Can we order in advance for pick up or delivery?  Thanks in advance.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 03, 2019, 07:43:36 PM
Arriving in Calgary later Friday afternoon. What options are there for prepared Shabbos food? Can we order in advance for pick up or delivery?  Thanks in advance.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
There is no such place in Calgary. You can try emailing Marina for Shabbos hosts.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 03, 2019, 07:48:56 PM
There is no such place in Calgary. You can try emailing Marina for Shabbos hosts.
Also important to know, the Shul makes early Shabbos during the summer, Mincha is usually 7:30 PM.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: pghtown on July 03, 2019, 08:22:13 PM
There is no such place in Calgary. You can try emailing Marina for Shabbos hosts.
Thanks for the response. I see online that Sobey's has the biggest selection of kosher foods. But no prepared meats/chicken etc?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 03, 2019, 08:37:01 PM
Thanks for the response. I see online that Sobey's has the biggest selection of kosher foods. But no prepared meats/chicken etc?
Not really. They have chicken nuggets, salami, yogurt, etc. Raw meats are frozen.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: thnkngboutu2002 on July 03, 2019, 11:28:32 PM
anyone traveling to the area over shabbos august 17th that we can arrange a minyan together? any ideas where to stay over shabbos besides at someones house? thanks!
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: thnkngboutu2002 on July 09, 2019, 12:14:00 AM
Anyone know if costco in Edmonton or Calgary sells kosher food? Thank You!
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 09, 2019, 12:23:23 AM
Anyone know if costco in Edmonton or Calgary sells kosher food? Thank You!
Costco in Calgary sells Kosher bagels (not Pas Yisrael) in boxes of 6.5 dozen for 29 dollars. We usually split it up, we Whatsapp  group mesg out-who needs? They sell bulk Bothwell cheese, which is Kosher. Meats are not Kosher, packaged foods are the same as anywhere else - some Kosher, some not.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: thnkngboutu2002 on July 09, 2019, 12:30:05 AM
Costco in Calgary sells Kosher bagels (not Pas Yisrael) in boxes of 6.5 dozen for 29 dollars. We usually split it up, we Whatsapp  group mesg out-who needs? They sell bulk Bothwell cheese, which is Kosher. Meats are not Kosher, packaged foods are the same as anywhere else - some Kosher, some not.

Thank You! What about meal-mart cold cuts. Do they carry stuff like that?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 11, 2019, 12:20:34 PM
Thank You! What about meal-mart cold cuts. Do they carry stuff like that?
Costco doesn't sell that. You can get it at Superstore on Southport, Safeway at Glenmore Landing, or Sobey's in Bridlewood. Sobey's usually has the best selection.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on July 11, 2019, 12:33:21 PM
It seems that Superstore was the original supplier, but they did what they wanted and didn't really listen to the needs of the community. There were supply shortages at crucial times, and there wasn't much variety. The Jewish community went to an out of neighborhood grocery store and sold the concept that it would expand their customer base. Sobey's did this, and they were quite successful. They offer a 15% discount the first Tuesday of every month, and many people do their full shopping then. Safeway is part of the same chain, so they did some of the same.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Saramalka on July 15, 2019, 01:55:22 PM
I will be travelling from Israel to New York and then to banff.
I am trying to figure out cellphone. I have an unlocked phone with a sim card from H20/Att for new York.
What should I do about my time in Banff, which is only 3.5 days. Can I rely on whatsapp in the hotel. I understand the roads have minimal reception, so it might pay to use the gypsy app. Any info appreciated
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on August 13, 2019, 10:09:20 PM
I see that many people are coming in for Shabbos Nachamu. Are there any Minyonim scheduled in the Banff/Lake Louise area? If so, where? How about for Shabbos?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: nucheiner on August 13, 2019, 11:09:32 PM
I see that many people are coming in for Shabbos Nachamu. Are there any Minyonim scheduled in the Banff/Lake Louise area? If so, where? How about for Shabbos?
There is a post on GoDaven site, temporary minyanim section. Dunno details.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on May 28, 2020, 05:12:41 PM
Banff and Jasper both reopening on June 1st.

https://www.pc.gc.ca/en/pn-np/ab/banff/visit/covid-19-info
https://www.pc.gc.ca/en/pn-np/ab/jasper/visit/covid-19-info
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on June 02, 2020, 09:05:41 PM
Banff and Jasper both reopening on June 1st.

https://www.pc.gc.ca/en/pn-np/ab/banff/visit/covid-19-info
https://www.pc.gc.ca/en/pn-np/ab/jasper/visit/covid-19-info

Any idea if us citizens will be allowed in through the border?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Specialized on June 23, 2020, 07:29:38 PM
Any idea if us citizens will be allowed in through the border?

US citizens are allowed through for business, but if they catch you in Banff, you get whacked with fines. They are looking for it.
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on June 23, 2020, 08:29:22 PM
US citizens are allowed through for business, but if they catch you in Banff, you get whacked with fines. They are looking for it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/rcmp-americans-banff-alaska-1.5621452
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: KSMH on July 19, 2020, 12:15:13 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/stars-air-ambulance-1.5655105

I remember going on the busses and being repeatedly told that climbing up the glaciers by foot is extremely dangerous, I guess, now the busses are as well.
One tourist trap down?
Title: Re: Banff and Jasper Master Thread
Post by: ungar17@yahoo.com on July 31, 2020, 12:58:26 PM
I am planning a trip to Banff with my wife and 3 kids aged 7,4 & 2. We will be landing there around 1pm on Sunday and leaving at 5pm on Thursday.
Anyone have an tips on what we should do considering the age of the kids?
Do the stores with Kosher products have any Meat, chicken, cheese etc...?
I am booked at the Stoneridge Resort. Should I be looking to stay elsewhere?