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Title: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: yitzy93 on November 14, 2015, 11:20:11 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/11/14/french-police-report-shootout-and-explosion-in-paris/
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Emkay on November 14, 2015, 11:28:02 AM
Crazy! Absolutely devastating.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: yitzy93 on November 14, 2015, 12:15:29 PM
Apparently one of the terrorists entered France via Greece back in October with all the immigrants.
Maybe Europe will start waking up! Maybe, just maybe...!
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Hidden on November 14, 2015, 05:35:25 PM
Netanyahu asked both sides to keep restraint.
He said although he does not want to sound like promoting terror, we must understand that they are refugees that are always looked down at, and that forced them to do these extreme measures.
He said he is working for a two state solution that will split Paris into two so both nations can live in harmony.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: zale on November 14, 2015, 05:45:19 PM
Netanyahu asked both sides to keep restraint.
He said although he does not want to sound like promoting terror, we must understand that they are refugees that are always looked down at, and that forced them to do these extreme measures.
He said he is working for a two state solution that will split Paris into two so both nations can live in harmony.

I wish he actually would say this!
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Emkay on November 14, 2015, 05:52:26 PM
Netanyahu asked both sides to keep restraint.
He said although he does not want to sound like promoting terror, we must understand that they are refugees that are always looked down at, and that forced them to do these extreme measures.
He said he is working for a two state solution that will split Paris into two so both nations can live in harmony.
Not the right time or place to crack jokes
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Aaaron on November 14, 2015, 05:54:40 PM
Not the right time or place to crack jokes

+1.  This is a thread about a horrific chain of attacks in France.  Let's not compare/contrast for the sake of personal political views.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Hidden on November 14, 2015, 05:58:45 PM
Not the right time or place to crack jokes
Humor is what keeps a yid going through golus
Btw the attack is not surprising now that Paris is full of Arabs, the whole Europe is full of Arab refugees
70 yrs ago Europe kicked out all the Jews who help the economy, so the got Arabs instead
This is all while the EU is busy with BSD...
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: damaxer91 on November 14, 2015, 06:00:07 PM
Horrific attack

Would have been 10x worse had the suicide bombers managed to get into the stadium

And even the NY Times was shocked that they didn't attack any "Jewish" establishments
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: sky121 on November 14, 2015, 06:02:01 PM
Saw this before shabbos...   All I could think about all day...
So awful..
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 14, 2015, 06:04:41 PM
Horrific!!!

If anyone thinks for a second that anything will change as far as Europe's attitude toward immigration and extremism, think again.

All the media could talk about here tonight is the backlash that British muslims are fearing...
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: mrprez27 on November 14, 2015, 06:10:43 PM
This is a tragedy...It's scary to think with so many advances in intelligence and counter-terrorism that something so organized can happen.

Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: yitzy93 on November 14, 2015, 06:15:04 PM
Horrific!!!

If anyone thinks for a second that anything will change as far as Europe's attitude toward immigration and extremism, think again.

All the media could talk about here tonight is the backlash that British muslims are fearing...
After the attacks Poland slammed Germany and other European countries on their immigration policies. (At least one country that somewhat has their head screwed on right)
Germany's Angela Merkel was quick to respond (and bury her head in the sand) by urging not to associate these attacks to the immigration problem.
How sad...
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Myccrabbi on November 14, 2015, 06:21:59 PM
All I can think is...
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: David Smith on November 14, 2015, 06:42:44 PM
If Isis was asking for a full blown war with the west, they likely got it.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Moshe123 on November 14, 2015, 07:02:56 PM
יוודע בגויים לעינינו נקמת דם עבדיך השפוך!

My family endured the holocaust in France.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: lowvoltageguy on November 14, 2015, 07:04:41 PM
If Isis was asking for a full blown war with the west, they likely got it.
I highly doubt it. Yes he said he is going to retaliate but being French you know he's not going to go all in. This is a time I actually miss President Bush.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: elit on November 14, 2015, 07:05:37 PM
I highly doubt it. Yes he said he is going to retaliate but being French you know he's not going to go all in. This is a time I actually miss President Bush.
+1
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: good sam on November 14, 2015, 08:21:05 PM
Apparently one of the terrorists entered France via Greece back in October with all the immigrants.
Maybe Europe will start waking up! Maybe, just maybe...!
Source?
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: yitzy93 on November 14, 2015, 08:30:19 PM
Source?
Almost every news site. They just confirmed that a 2nd terrorist had also entered through Greece.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: avremie on November 14, 2015, 08:35:52 PM
Don't expect a great response than last time charlie hebdo/ kosher supermarket
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: yitzy93 on November 14, 2015, 08:39:25 PM
Don't expect a great response than last time charlie hebdo/ kosher supermarket
This attack was VERY different in every way!
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: LoLo on November 14, 2015, 08:48:57 PM
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Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: zale on November 14, 2015, 08:50:22 PM
This attack was VERY different in every way!

How? Because it wasn't Jews?
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: luckyluck on November 14, 2015, 08:52:24 PM
Bataclan was owned by Jewish owners Pascal and Joel Laloux for decades, but the owners sold the place in September 2015 after 40 years.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: yitzy93 on November 14, 2015, 09:02:32 PM
How?
Most importantly the kosher supermarket/Hebdo attacks wasn't ISIS  (I'm in no way diminishing that terrible tragedy)
The death toll here is significantly higher (biggest attack in Paris since WWII, and biggest in Europe since the Madrid train bombings in 2004)
The differences go on and on... But I think it's pretty clear that these attacks will have a much bigger impact on the war with Islamic State
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: avremie on November 14, 2015, 09:29:47 PM
This attack was VERY different in every way!
Right but the ruthless response that was promised wasn't  delivered.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: tmendy226 on November 14, 2015, 09:41:44 PM
איך וועל שרייבן אויף יידיש מפני תקין העולם...

מיט די גאנצע טרויעריג וואס מיר האבן אויף וואס איז געשית, קענען מיר נישט אנהאלטן פון זאגן אז ס׳איז געווען דא א גרויסע נס וואס ס׳איז געשען פרייטיג צונאכט וואס אזאך יידן זיינען געווען אהים...
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: tmendy226 on November 14, 2015, 09:46:55 PM
Unlike what some Israeli news sites stated, most shuls were open today with regular services. Some even had greater amount than usual.

I'm unsure about the reasons that that some were open (despite the prohibition on gatherings) and some were closed but from what I understand the ones that were protected by the police were closed but by the military were open.

As far as I can tell Jews aren't especially afraid at this moment. By many people you can see determination to continue live freely and peacefully. People say that there's a big chance for marine Le Pen (fat right leader) to win the next elections...
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: LoLo on November 14, 2015, 09:47:52 PM
איך וועל שרייבן אויף יידיש מפני תקין העולם...

מיט די גאנצע טרויעריג וואס מיר האבן אויף וואס איז געשית, קענען מיר נישט אנהאלטן פון זאגן אז ס׳איז געווען דא א גרויסע נס וואס ס׳איז געשען פרייטיג צונאכט וואס אזאך יידן זיינען געווען אהים...
Google translate didn't have much issues translating it
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: zale on November 14, 2015, 10:19:08 PM
איך וועל שרייבן אויף יידיש מפני תקין העולם...

מיט די גאנצע טרויעריג וואס מיר האבן אויף וואס איז געשית, קענען מיר נישט אנהאלטן פון זאגן אז ס׳איז געווען דא א גרויסע נס וואס ס׳איז געשען פרייטיג צונאכט וואס אזאך יידן זיינען געווען אהים...

Most Jews in France are not observant, unless you don't consider them Jews.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: lowvoltageguy on November 14, 2015, 10:22:10 PM
איך וועל שרייבן אויף יידיש מפני תקין העולם...

מיט די גאנצע טרויעריג וואס מיר האבן אויף וואס איז געשית, קענען מיר נישט אנהאלטן פון זאגן אז ס׳איז געווען דא א גרויסע נס וואס ס׳איז געשען פרייטיג צונאכט וואס אזאך יידן זיינען געווען אהים...
איהר וואוינט אין פראנקרייך? ווייל אייער אידיש איז נישט אזוי היימיש (ב.פ., ווילי).
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: yitzy93 on November 14, 2015, 10:24:56 PM
איהר וואוינט אין פראנקרייך? ווייל אייער אידיש איז נישט אזוי היימיש (ב.פ., ווילי).
??טונה בייגל
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: lowvoltageguy on November 14, 2015, 10:26:25 PM
ווער ווייסט.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: pixi on November 14, 2015, 10:41:05 PM
Sorry people!
I know it's sensitive but I can't hold back anymore!
The terror attack this evening in Paris was horrible! Families have been destroyed and the devastation is horrific! I know how they feel, anyone who lives in Israel knows what it feels like to live through terror attacks.

HOWEVER!

The French government has been condemning Israel at every chance they had! While we are sending our condolences and support to France, they didn't even bother to cover the attack on Friday when a Jewish father and son were gunned down by Muslim terrorists!  France took Hamas off the terrorist list and instead started marking goods produced by Jews in Judea and Samaria!

With all due respect, I will not post a French flag on my profile and quite frankly I don't understand why anyone would! It is the French government who has been condemning Israel for fighting the same radical Islamic organizations that attacked Paris!
Some may call me insensitive, I agree! it is exactly this insensitivity that is the reason I am NOT posting a French flag on my feed! 

what do you call the reactions (or the lack of) from the French government when Israel has been under attack day in and day out?! Should I call for restraint? Should I give credit to the claims ISIS is using to justify this terror attack?

So instead of putting a French flag up, I will raise the Israeli one. Why? Because Israel warned France and the rest of the world of the effect of radical Islam! We tried to explain who and what we are fighting but they would not listen!

We told them this was not about land or occupation but they didn't listen! They pressured us to make deals with those who shoot us, blow us up and stab us and when we refuse to do so, they condemn us!
We warned them that this is about a radical culture that has no respect for life, but they ignored us and shook their finger at us for fighting the same radical Islamic ideology that attacked Paris. Only we fight it every day!

So here is the Israeli flag!
The one that is fighting radical Islamic terror every day!
The flag that is condemned and yelled at from every international podium for fighting the same evil that murdered over 130 of French innocent civilians.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: MosheD on November 14, 2015, 10:54:48 PM
Sorry people!
I know it's sensitive but I can't hold back anymore!
The terror attack this evening in Paris was horrible! Families have been destroyed and the devastation is horrific! I know how they feel, anyone who lives in Israel knows what it feels like to live through terror attacks.

HOWEVER!

The French government has been condemning Israel at every chance they had! While we are sending our condolences and support to France, they didn't even bother to cover the attack on Friday when a Jewish father and son were gunned down by Muslim terrorists!  France took Hamas off the terrorist list and instead started marking goods produced by Jews in Judea and Samaria!

With all due respect, I will not post a French flag on my profile and quite frankly I don't understand why anyone would! It is the French government who has been condemning Israel for fighting the same radical Islamic organizations that attacked Paris!
Some may call me insensitive, I agree! it is exactly this insensitivity that is the reason I am NOT posting a French flag on my feed! 

what do you call the reactions (or the lack of) from the French government when Israel has been under attack day in and day out?! Should I call for restraint? Should I give credit to the claims ISIS is using to justify this terror attack?

So instead of putting a French flag up, I will raise the Israeli one. Why? Because Israel warned France and the rest of the world of the effect of radical Islam! We tried to explain who and what we are fighting but they would not listen!

We told them this was not about land or occupation but they didn't listen! They pressured us to make deals with those who shoot us, blow us up and stab us and when we refuse to do so, they condemn us!
We warned them that this is about a radical culture that has no respect for life, but they ignored us and shook their finger at us for fighting the same radical Islamic ideology that attacked Paris. Only we fight it every day!

So here is the Israeli flag!
The one that is fighting radical Islamic terror every day!
The flag that is condemned and yelled at from every international podium for fighting the same evil that murdered over 130 of French innocent civilians.
Wow
But guzukt
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: justaregularguy on November 14, 2015, 10:57:24 PM
+1 to pixi.
My two cents: Klal Yisroel is supposed to learn from the current events in the world and do teshuva
 or treat people better or something nice. Recently these "events" have been happening to our own
 brothers in isreal which is 'too close for comfort'.
 Maybe we should grab the chance to learn something from this attack which, thankfully was NOT staged against our people so that we shouldn't need more 'wake-up' calls that are closer to home.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: yochiek93 on November 14, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
Sorry people!
I know it's sensitive but I can't hold back anymore!
The terror attack this evening in Paris was horrible! Families have been destroyed and the devastation is horrific! I know how they feel, anyone who lives in Israel knows what it feels like to live through terror attacks.

HOWEVER!

The French government has been condemning Israel at every chance they had! While we are sending our condolences and support to France, they didn't even bother to cover the attack on Friday when a Jewish father and son were gunned down by Muslim terrorists!  France took Hamas off the terrorist list and instead started marking goods produced by Jews in Judea and Samaria!

With all due respect, I will not post a French flag on my profile and quite frankly I don't understand why anyone would! It is the French government who has been condemning Israel for fighting the same radical Islamic organizations that attacked Paris!
Some may call me insensitive, I agree! it is exactly this insensitivity that is the reason I am NOT posting a French flag on my feed! 

what do you call the reactions (or the lack of) from the French government when Israel has been under attack day in and day out?! Should I call for restraint? Should I give credit to the claims ISIS is using to justify this terror attack?

So instead of putting a French flag up, I will raise the Israeli one. Why? Because Israel warned France and the rest of the world of the effect of radical Islam! We tried to explain who and what we are fighting but they would not listen!

We told them this was not about land or occupation but they didn't listen! They pressured us to make deals with those who shoot us, blow us up and stab us and when we refuse to do so, they condemn us!
We warned them that this is about a radical culture that has no respect for life, but they ignored us and shook their finger at us for fighting the same radical Islamic ideology that attacked Paris. Only we fight it every day!

So here is the Israeli flag!
The one that is fighting radical Islamic terror every day!
The flag that is condemned and yelled at from every international podium for fighting the same evil that murdered over 130 of French innocent civilians.
Well said
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: pixi on November 14, 2015, 11:05:18 PM
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Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Toasted on November 14, 2015, 11:13:17 PM
Pixi hit it on the nail! Reminds me of...........

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Aaaron on November 14, 2015, 11:37:17 PM
Sorry people!
I know it's sensitive but I can't hold back anymore!
The terror attack this evening in Paris was horrible! Families have been destroyed and the devastation is horrific! I know how they feel, anyone who lives in Israel knows what it feels like to live through terror attacks.

HOWEVER!

The French government has been condemning Israel at every chance they had! While we are sending our condolences and support to France, they didn't even bother to cover the attack on Friday when a Jewish father and son were gunned down by Muslim terrorists!  France took Hamas off the terrorist list and instead started marking goods produced by Jews in Judea and Samaria!

With all due respect, I will not post a French flag on my profile and quite frankly I don't understand why anyone would! It is the French government who has been condemning Israel for fighting the same radical Islamic organizations that attacked Paris!
Some may call me insensitive, I agree! it is exactly this insensitivity that is the reason I am NOT posting a French flag on my feed! 

what do you call the reactions (or the lack of) from the French government when Israel has been under attack day in and day out?! Should I call for restraint? Should I give credit to the claims ISIS is using to justify this terror attack?

So instead of putting a French flag up, I will raise the Israeli one. Why? Because Israel warned France and the rest of the world of the effect of radical Islam! We tried to explain who and what we are fighting but they would not listen!

We told them this was not about land or occupation but they didn't listen! They pressured us to make deals with those who shoot us, blow us up and stab us and when we refuse to do so, they condemn us!
We warned them that this is about a radical culture that has no respect for life, but they ignored us and shook their finger at us for fighting the same radical Islamic ideology that attacked Paris. Only we fight it every day!

So here is the Israeli flag!
The one that is fighting radical Islamic terror every day!
The flag that is condemned and yelled at from every international podium for fighting the same evil that murdered over 130 of French innocent civilians.

What BS.  They didn't take Hamas off any list.  The EU court ruled to remove it for a technical violation; all sanctions remained imposed.
Hollande has been a friend of Israel on many issues. 
Do you know for certain that no French media covered any of the attacks in Israel?  Does it really matter if they did?  We're under sensitive to the goings-on in Israel that we expect the rest of the world to as well; guess what, that's not the case. But it doesn't matter.

I'm ashamed you even compare the two situations.  It's like walking into a cancer ward and telling the person with stage 2 that they shouldn't complain because someone else has stage 4. Why can't we empathize with a country that was just wracked with a horrific incident without comparing it to Israel or France's reactions to the same?  You really want to lower yourself to a "but they did it first" juvenile attitude?  We're supposed to be better than that.

We're like professional victims.  Anything happens anywhere in the world and we're like "but we have it worse!" 
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Brian93 on November 14, 2015, 11:43:40 PM
What BS.  They didn't take Hamas off any list.  The EU court ruled to remove it for a technical violation; all sanctions remained imposed.
Hollande has been a friend of Israel on many issues. 
Do you know for certain that no French media covered any of the attacks in Israel?  Does it really matter if they did?  We're under sensitive to the goings-on in Israel that we expect the rest of the world to as well; guess what, that's not the case. But it doesn't matter.

I'm ashamed you even compare the two situations.  It's like walking into a cancer ward and telling the person with stage 2 that they shouldn't complain because someone else has stage 4. Why can't we empathize with a country that was just wracked with a horrific incident without comparing it to Israel or France's reactions to the same?  You really want to lower yourself to a "but they did it first" juvenile attitude?  We're supposed to be better than that.

We're like professional victims.  Anything happens anywhere in the world and we're like "but we have it worse!"
You missed the point
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: pixi on November 14, 2015, 11:55:21 PM
What BS.  They didn't take Hamas off any list.  The EU court ruled to remove it for a technical violation; all sanctions remained imposed.
Hollande has been a friend of Israel on many issues. 
Do you know for certain that no French media covered any of the attacks in Israel?  Does it really matter if they did?  We're under sensitive to the goings-on in Israel that we expect the rest of the world to as well; guess what, that's not the case. But it doesn't matter.

I'm ashamed you even compare the two situations.  It's like walking into a cancer ward and telling the person with stage 2 that they shouldn't complain because someone else has stage 4. Why can't we empathize with a country that was just wracked with a horrific incident without comparing it to Israel or France's reactions to the same?  You really want to lower yourself to a "but they did it first" juvenile attitude?  We're supposed to be better than that.

We're like professional victims.  Anything happens anywhere in the world and we're like "but we have it worse!" 
i would say you just  don't know simple ongoing facts and previous history , but you missed my point .
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Aaaron on November 14, 2015, 11:57:35 PM
You missed the point

i would say you just  don't know simple ongoing facts and previous history , but you missed my point .

So elaborate on the point...  If you don't want to show solidarity on FB, I completely get that.  But to give a lecture on why you're not is just tacky.  And the "we told you so" attitude is even worse.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Toasted on November 15, 2015, 12:08:04 AM
So elaborate on the point...  If you don't want to show solidarity on FB, I completely get that.  But to give a lecture on why you're not is just tacky. And the "we told you so" attitude is even worse.
As bad as blaming Benghazi on Youtube?
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Emkay on November 15, 2015, 04:29:18 AM
Sorry people!
I know it's sensitive but I can't hold back anymore!
The terror attack this evening in Paris was horrible! Families have been destroyed and the devastation is horrific! I know how they feel, anyone who lives in Israel knows what it feels like to live through terror attacks.

HOWEVER!

The French government has been condemning Israel at every chance they had! While we are sending our condolences and support to France, they didn't even bother to cover the attack on Friday when a Jewish father and son were gunned down by Muslim terrorists!  France took Hamas off the terrorist list and instead started marking goods produced by Jews in Judea and Samaria!

With all due respect, I will not post a French flag on my profile and quite frankly I don't understand why anyone would! It is the French government who has been condemning Israel for fighting the same radical Islamic organizations that attacked Paris!
Some may call me insensitive, I agree! it is exactly this insensitivity that is the reason I am NOT posting a French flag on my feed! 

what do you call the reactions (or the lack of) from the French government when Israel has been under attack day in and day out?! Should I call for restraint? Should I give credit to the claims ISIS is using to justify this terror attack?

So instead of putting a French flag up, I will raise the Israeli one. Why? Because Israel warned France and the rest of the world of the effect of radical Islam! We tried to explain who and what we are fighting but they would not listen!

We told them this was not about land or occupation but they didn't listen! They pressured us to make deals with those who shoot us, blow us up and stab us and when we refuse to do so, they condemn us!
We warned them that this is about a radical culture that has no respect for life, but they ignored us and shook their finger at us for fighting the same radical Islamic ideology that attacked Paris. Only we fight it every day!

So here is the Israeli flag!
The one that is fighting radical Islamic terror every day!
The flag that is condemned and yelled at from every international podium for fighting the same evil that murdered over 130 of French innocent civilians.
What a load of crap. I'm not sure why every tragedy has to be compared to Israel.  No one is asking you to support french labor unions or policies. Noone is asking for your opinion on french or vote for a specific party.
 Its quite simple, there was a terrible tragedy with well over 100 victims in the western world (which undoubtedly makes a bigger impression then the thousands dying everyday in third world countries) and it would be appropriate to either sympathize with them ( which shouldn't be too hard as you seem to have hard feelings for the similar root of evil) or just shut the hell up and take your political rantings to the ywn or bmg coffee room.
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: tmendy226 on November 15, 2015, 04:38:00 AM
Most Jews in France are not observant, unless you don't consider them Jews.

Most Jews aren't religious, however many are traditionalists and even more have something on Friday night. 
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: elit on November 15, 2015, 07:18:38 AM
i would say you just  don't know simple ongoing facts and previous history , but you missed my point .
is your name ari fuld? If not why are you calling something someone else wrote your own?
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: yitzy93 on November 15, 2015, 08:04:22 AM
Is there really a need to post such greusome pics here?
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Achas Veachas on November 15, 2015, 08:30:48 AM
And with a gloating caption like that?
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Post by: ChAiM'l on November 15, 2015, 08:32:02 AM
"יוודע בגויים "לעינינו
Oh, stop it.
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Post by: elit on November 15, 2015, 08:39:36 AM
http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium-1.686083?v=48E0030C539FB5751B77CC1EA9BB9F19
what a warped reality.... no wonder they treat israel the way they do
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Post by: pixi on November 15, 2015, 09:19:49 AM
is your name ari fuld? If not why are you calling something someone else wrote your own?
Does it make a difference who wrote it?  I just wanted to bring out a point.
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Post by: DovDov on November 15, 2015, 09:48:14 AM
@GidonShaviv: Just realised that the band yesterday in Paris, was the same one that told Roger Waters to F*** off over BDS
https://t.co/aoXmeQXyPs
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Post by: Yehuda57 on November 15, 2015, 10:19:39 AM
Does it make a difference who wrote it?  I just wanted to bring out a point.
It does make a difference. Especially when you are getting lots of adulation and +1s. It's theft of sorts, and would discredit everything else you say.
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Post by: aygart on November 15, 2015, 10:24:11 AM
Ha'omer davar bishem omro maivy geula leolam
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Post by: elit on November 15, 2015, 10:57:37 AM
Does it make a difference who wrote it?  I just wanted to bring out a point.
Yes.  It does.  you can make the same point with giving proper credit. very distasteful to call it your own actually takes away from the power of the message
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Post by: Dan on November 15, 2015, 12:37:46 PM
https://www.facebook.com/eli.spalter/posts/10153736361062162
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Post by: David Smith on November 15, 2015, 12:50:39 PM
What's a thread like this without CM?
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Post by: ChAiM'l on November 15, 2015, 01:47:58 PM
What's a thread like this without CM?
What's any thread like without a troll? Nice and civil.
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Post by: yitzy93 on November 15, 2015, 01:54:29 PM
What's any thread like without a troll? Nice and civil.
+1
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Post by: Yehuda57 on November 15, 2015, 02:55:08 PM
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.686060?v=BCA4382247508EE181090224D64FA6AA
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Post by: Dan on November 15, 2015, 02:56:04 PM
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.686060?v=BCA4382247508EE181090224D64FA6AA
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QqQIwAGoVChMIqamD7JqTyQIVUPRjCh1oUQ4z&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.com%2Fopinion%2F.premium-1.686060&usg=AFQjCNEGGxBO70URCF9slgZjfYjBzUnzbQ&bvm=bv.107467506,d.cGc
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Post by: ilherman on November 15, 2015, 04:04:43 PM
Talking about ISIS I wanna ask the question that is on my mind for so long. Excuse my ignorance maybe there is a simple answer but I am not reading much so I will ask.

Why doesn't the US start bombing Al-Raqqah like they did to Baghdad when they wanted to bring Saddam down? Just hit every official building of the city? Give the residence 24 hour notice and yallah, give them something that they will feel once for all.
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Post by: Moshe123 on November 15, 2015, 04:07:50 PM
Talking about ISIS I wanna ask the question that is on my mind for so long. Excuse my ignorance maybe there is a simple answer but I am not reading much so I will ask.

Why doesn't the US start bombing Al-Raqqah like they did to Baghdad when they wanted to bring Saddam down? Just hit every official building of the city? Give the residence 24 hour notice and yallah, give them something that they will feel once for all.

France is doing just that now.

Reuters says that the French strikes on Raqqa involved 10 jets dropping 20 bombs, quoting the French Defence Ministry
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Post by: Centro on November 15, 2015, 04:09:35 PM
Talking about ISIS I wanna ask the question that is on my mind for so long. Excuse my ignorance maybe there is a simple answer but I am not reading much so I will ask.

Why doesn't the US start bombing Al-Raqqah like they did to Baghdad when they wanted to bring Saddam down? Just hit every official building of the city? Give the residence 24 hour notice and yallah, give them something that they will feel once for all.
@KolHaolam: FRANCE: JUST IN - 'Major Bombardment' of ISIS underway by French Air Force over Raqqa, Syria - the ISIS capital city.
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Post by: ilherman on November 15, 2015, 04:10:15 PM
France is doing just that now.

Reuters says that the French strikes on Raqqa involved 10 jets dropping 20 bombs, quoting the French Defence Ministry
I hear. But my question is that if no one has done it until today then I guess there is a reason behind that. What is it?
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Post by: justaregularguy on November 15, 2015, 06:37:04 PM
I hear. But my question is that if no one has done it until today then I guess there is a reason behind that. What is it?
maybe our president underrates the power he has to do things..
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Post by: efflpetzel on November 15, 2015, 07:57:07 PM
What's any thread like without a troll? Nice and civil.
+100,

Nice and refreshing.
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Post by: cozmohoot on November 15, 2015, 08:56:38 PM
Why done the stadium there not have cell service?
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Post by: grodnoking on November 15, 2015, 09:32:44 PM
Why done the stadium there not have cell service?
I remember service in stadiums in NY used to crash every other second. Nothing worked during games.
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Post by: mb1 on November 15, 2015, 10:55:08 PM
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.686060?v=BCA4382247508EE181090224D64FA6AA
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QqQIwAGoVChMIqamD7JqTyQIVUPRjCh1oUQ4z&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.com%2Fopinion%2F.premium-1.686060&usg=AFQjCNEGGxBO70URCF9slgZjfYjBzUnzbQ&bvm=bv.107467506,d.cGc
It seems you linked to the same article.
Am I missing something?
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Post by: avromie7 on November 15, 2015, 11:19:19 PM
It seems you linked to the same article.
Am I missing something?
First link has a paywall
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Post by: Ergel on November 16, 2015, 08:05:16 AM
Remember when there was discussion if the sharm al-sheikh was a turning point in the West's relationship with ISIS (http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/russian-jet-sinai-isis-obama/)?
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Post by: username on November 16, 2015, 11:03:21 AM
Remember when there was discussion if the sharm al-sheikh was a turning point in the West's relationship with ISIS (http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/russian-jet-sinai-isis-obama/
Fixed link
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Post by: tmendy226 on November 16, 2015, 06:10:06 PM
It's intersting but when I speak to French Jews about the situation they don't seem to be worry at all... Maybe just a bit. I guess French mentality will always be above anything...
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Post by: Dan on November 16, 2015, 06:11:58 PM
It's intersting but when I speak to French Jews about the situation they don't seem to be worry at all... Maybe just a bit. I guess French mentality will always be above anything...
We've already determined that you have a very narrow circle of friends as the actual data shows Jewish emigration from France at numbers not seen since WWII.
Will be interesting to see what will happen in Europe's Jews in 20 years from now. Future seems to be continued growth in Israel and US/Canada from EU emigres.
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 16, 2015, 07:07:09 PM
Will be interesting to see what will happen in Europe's Jews in 20 years from now. Future seems to be continued growth in Israel and US/Canada from EU emigres.

Berlin is the fastest growing Jewish community in the world
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Post by: rivkao on November 16, 2015, 07:10:43 PM
Berlin is the fastest growing Jewish community in the world
Going from 10 families to 20 families makes the population 200% but it by far doesn't come close to American /Israeli growth
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Post by: tmendy226 on November 16, 2015, 08:06:40 PM
We've already determined that you have a very narrow circle of friends as the actual data shows Jewish emigration from France at numbers not seen since WWII.
Will be interesting to see what will happen in Europe's Jews in 20 years from now. Future seems to be continued growth in Israel and US/Canada from EU emigres.

There are 600k Jews in France. Let's say about 20k made Aliya that leaves me with about 580k people...

But obviously if you get your stuff from the news than there are 5 Jews left in France and Israel is the most oppressive, discriminating and violant country in the world...
Title: Re: At Least 128 Dead in Paris Terror Attacks!
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2015, 08:32:03 PM
There are 600k Jews in France. Let's say about 20k made Aliya that leaves me with about 580k people...

But obviously if you get your stuff from the news than there are 5 Jews left in France and Israel is the most oppressive, discriminating and violant country in the world...
You do the math x 20 years and let me know how that works out for ya.
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Post by: Ergel on November 16, 2015, 10:42:34 PM
https://m.facebook.com/antoine.leiris/posts/10154457849999947
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Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2015, 11:33:42 PM
https://m.facebook.com/antoine.leiris/posts/10154457849999947
Beautiful.
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Post by: tmendy226 on November 17, 2015, 05:13:26 AM
You do the math x 20 years and let me know how that works out for ya.

 :o so you really want to show off your ignorance, 20k is the number of Jews that made aliya in the past 10 years. And as I already "revealed" to you, there's an high percentage that comes back, but what can I say to someone who already made up what the "facts" are...
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Post by: Emkay on November 17, 2015, 06:06:29 AM
:o so you really want to show off your ignorance, 20k is the number of Jews that made aliya in the past 10 years. And as I already "revealed" to you, there's an high percentage that comes back, but what can I say to someone who already made up what the "facts" are...
1)number is closer to 30k
2) over a third of that is just in the past 2 years
3) 2012-13-14 saw the numbers double every year and 2015 is on track for that too
4) the percent that come back is maximum 4%. That's hardly a high percentage
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Post by: churnbabychurn on November 17, 2015, 06:59:59 AM
What am I missing here. Arn't Jews leaving Israel due to the unbearable increase in antisemitic terrorist attacks?
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Post by: Emkay on November 17, 2015, 07:38:31 AM
What am I missing here. Arn't Jews leaving Israel due to the unbearable increase in antisemitic terrorist attacks?
No
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Post by: churnbabychurn on November 17, 2015, 08:00:34 AM
No
Well its a heck of a lot safer in Paris.

 It is one of those irrational things about Jews I guess.
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Post by: Ergel on November 17, 2015, 09:49:16 AM
Well its a heck of a lot safer in Paris.

 It is one of those irrational things about Jews I guess.
You don't give up, do you?
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Post by: Ergel on November 17, 2015, 03:50:06 PM
News reports of a bomb threat at German soccer game.
Unclear if there actually was a bomb...
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Post by: David Smith on November 17, 2015, 03:53:36 PM
News reports of a bomb threat at German soccer game.
Unclear if there actually was a bomb...
Sounds like there was nothing, from reports in hearing.
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Post by: ShlockDoc on November 17, 2015, 03:56:55 PM
Has there ever been a case where a "bomb threat" was an actual bomb? 
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Post by: Moshe123 on November 17, 2015, 04:03:17 PM
Seems like a baloney scare.
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Post by: Moshe123 on November 17, 2015, 04:03:40 PM
Germans living in fear is something everyone can heart.
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Post by: ShlockDoc on November 17, 2015, 04:04:31 PM
German living in fear is something everyone can heart.

Oy. Smh.
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Post by: tmendy226 on November 17, 2015, 05:13:11 PM
What am I missing here. Arn't Jews leaving Israel due to the unbearable increase in antisemitic terrorist attacks?

America, Thailand, India, England, Belgium, Brazil and where not is full with Israelis. Israel is the country with the highest percentage of citizens living abroad.
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Post by: tmendy226 on November 17, 2015, 05:16:14 PM
1)number is closer to 30k
2) over a third of that is just in the past 2 years
3) 2012-13-14 saw the numbers double every year and 2015 is on track for that too
4) the percent that come back is maximum 4%. That's hardly a high percentage

Where did you get your numbers from? Before 2012 it was less than a thousand a year. 2012: 1500, 2013: 3000, 2014: 7000.

about #4 you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry.
(If you ask how do I know, I lived in France for several years and a large part of my family lives there and I still go there a couple times a year)
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Post by: Ergel on November 17, 2015, 05:31:41 PM
Where did you get your numbers from? Before 2012 it was less than a thousand a year. 2012: 1500, 2013: 3000, 2014: 7000.

about #4 you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry.
(If you ask how do I know, I lived in France for several years and a large part of my family lives there and I still go there a couple times a year)
So your anecdotal evidence is probably more accurate than his 4% which probably is real data, right?
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Post by: tmendy226 on November 17, 2015, 05:33:32 PM
So your anecdotal evidence is probably more accurate than his 4% which probably is real data, right?

I'll send him 50$ on PayPal if he shows me the source of the "real data"

(There's no way to have such real data)
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Post by: tmendy226 on November 17, 2015, 05:38:55 PM
Talking about "real data" here's Dermot Ahern's (former Irish minister for foreign affairs) real data: “A lot of this doesn’t come from the war in Iraq. It comes from the destabilising of the entire region because of the Israeli/Palestine issue and that has been the source of all the problems in that part of the world.”
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Post by: Emkay on November 17, 2015, 05:41:37 PM
Where did you get your numbers from? Before 2012 it was less than a thousand a year. 2012: 1500, 2013: 3000, 2014: 7000.

about #4 you have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry.
(If you ask how do I know, I lived in France for several years and a large part of my family lives there and I still go there a couple times a year)

In the past 20 years it has never been below a thousand a year. That is a fact.
My numbers are from the the official records. 4% is also not a made up number. And the other numbers you posted agree with me.
I'm not sure why living in France or having family there makes you know the official numbers any more then me living in Israel makes me the prime minister
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Post by: tmendy226 on November 17, 2015, 10:15:21 PM
In the past 20 years it has never been below a thousand a year. That is a fact.
My numbers are from the the official records. 4% is also not a made up number. And the other numbers you posted agree with me.
I'm not sure why living in France or having family there makes you know the official numbers any more then me living in Israel makes me the prime minister

The 50$ are waiting to be sent to you, so what's the source of the 4% "real data"?
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Post by: Deal Guy on November 18, 2015, 01:44:33 AM
Happening now
http://go.cnn.com/?stream=cnn
http://www.france24.com/en/breaking/20151118-raids-target-suspected-paris-attacks-mastermind-abdelhamid-abaaoud-police-say
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Post by: sky121 on November 18, 2015, 06:19:22 PM
http://philadelphia.adl.org/2015/02/02/the-speech-we-want-to-hear-from-every-european-leader/
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Post by: TimT on November 18, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
http://collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=37929&alias=chabad-teacher-stabbed-in-france