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Title: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on November 17, 2015, 02:45:35 AM
I think NOT. It's an ideology, and an ideology is something you cannot kill.

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Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: Emkay on November 17, 2015, 03:30:54 AM
I think NOT. It's an ideology, and an ideology is something you cannot kill.

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I think it can though my plan wouldn't happen in a million years
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: ShlockDoc on November 17, 2015, 04:37:44 AM
I think NOT. It's an ideology, and an ideology is something you cannot kill.

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Why does defeating ISIS mean that you have to kill the ideology? That's two different things 
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: Moshe123 on November 17, 2015, 05:24:46 AM
Nuke Iraq and Syria.
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: good sam on November 17, 2015, 07:08:12 AM
Why does defeating ISIS mean that you have to kill the ideology? That's two different things
+1
The Nazis were defeated though their ideology lives on.
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: yitzy93 on November 17, 2015, 07:37:48 AM
If you can make it you can break it.
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: ilherman on November 17, 2015, 08:11:14 AM
I think it can though my plan wouldn't happen in a million years
Which is?
Nuke Iraq and Syria.
Seriously?
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: Matovu on November 17, 2015, 08:24:09 AM
Go read David Brooks op ed today in the Times.
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on November 17, 2015, 01:15:50 PM
Why does defeating ISIS mean that you have to kill the ideology? That's two different things
+1
The Nazis were defeated though their ideology lives on.
The Nazi ideology that lives on today means hardly anything because in order for it to be effective it has to be in coordination with too many; whereas the ISIS ideology can be followed by loners and carry out attacks on their own in the most remote parts of the globe.
Actually, that itself is their ideology - to fight for sharia/shia wherever, whenever and in whatever circumstances, whether you're alone or with others.
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: Brian93 on November 17, 2015, 01:19:12 PM
The Nazi ideology that lives on today means hardly anything because in order for it to be effective it has to be in coordination with too many; whereas the ISIS ideology can be followed by loners and carry out attacks on their own in the most remote parts of the globe.
Actually, that itself is their ideology - to fight for sharia/shia wherever, whenever and in whatever circumstances, whether you're alone or with others.
ISIS means radical Islam or a caliphate?
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on November 17, 2015, 01:24:37 PM
ISIS means radical Islam or a caliphate?
What's wrong with Caliphate so long it is not radical?

Or what's wrong with Islam so long it is not radical?
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: ADG on November 17, 2015, 01:40:04 PM
Go read David Brooks op ed today in the Times.

@DD we read the Journal not the times
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on November 17, 2015, 01:43:30 PM
@DD we read the Journal DDF not the times
FTFY  ;)
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: Brian93 on November 17, 2015, 01:50:52 PM
What's wrong with Caliphate so long it is not radical?

Or what's wrong with Islam so long it is not radical?


The Nazi ideology that lives on today means hardly anything because in order for it to be effective it has to be in coordination with too many; whereas the ISIS ideology can be followed by loners and carry out attacks on their own in the most remote parts of the globe.

If ISIS means a caliphate, that's not something that can be carried out by loners.
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on November 17, 2015, 01:57:45 PM

If ISIS means a caliphate, that's not something that can be carried out by loners.
-1 if the caliphate/caliph orders it to be that way. This is especially the case with these self-declared leaders.
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: Brian93 on November 17, 2015, 02:05:49 PM
-1 if the caliphate/caliph orders it to be that way. This is especially the case with these self-declared leaders.
The discussion was whether an ideology can continue to thrive once its body has been destroyed. While loners can fight for a caliphate without being in the front lines of the of the organization, a caliphate is only while there is an actual leader, as opposed to an Aryan ideology for example
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: yudamaan on November 18, 2015, 10:37:52 AM
@KolHaolam: RUSSIA: Putin: "Forgiving terrorists is up to God, to send them to him is up to me." He's scheduled to meet w/ Netanyahu in Paris in 10 days
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: Hershelsdeals on November 18, 2015, 10:39:52 AM
@KolHaolam: RUSSIA: Putin: "Forgiving terrorists is up to God, to send them to him is up to me." He's scheduled to meet w/ Netanyahu in Paris in 10 days
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: good sam on November 18, 2015, 10:47:59 AM
Gotta love him. I'd vote for him for POTUS.
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on November 18, 2015, 01:44:18 PM
Gotta love him. I'd vote for him for POTUS.
  ??? You may as well stay with Obama...   ::)
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: Aaaron on November 18, 2015, 01:55:54 PM
@KolHaolam: RUSSIA: Putin: "Forgiving terrorists is up to God, to send them to him is up to me." He's scheduled to meet w/ Netanyahu in Paris in 10 days

No HT to Denzel for the stolen line  >:(
Title: Re: Is It Possible To Defeat ISIS?
Post by: David Smith on November 18, 2015, 01:58:04 PM
I thought this was originally Moshe Dayan's line...