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Title: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 10, 2016, 01:14:26 PM
I plan on going to Delaware tomorrow to purchase tickets, depending on this outcome.. Delaware is a state in which winners can remain anonymous.

I'm offering to buy people tickets and email to them or they can pick it up in Brooklyn, or Lakewood (I'll be there tomorrow night)

Im charging a premium to cover gas, tolls, and time.

If you purchase 1-10 tickets, $5 each
11+ tickets will be $4 each

Please pm me your email and amount of tickets you want.




Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Mocha on January 10, 2016, 01:18:05 PM
I plan on going to Delaware tomorrow to purchase tickets, depending on this outcome.. Delaware is a state in which winners can remain anonymous.

I'm offering to buy people tickets and email to them or they can pick it up in Brooklyn, or Lakewood (I'll be there tomorrow night)

Im charging a premium to cover gas, tolls, and time.

If you purchase 1-10 tickets, $5 each
11+ tickets will be $4 each

Please pm me your email and amount of tickets you want.
Your odds of not making it back in one piece are greater then getting the winning ticket.

Unless your cashing in on peoples stupidity to which I say "nicely done".
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Emkay on January 10, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
I hope you don't spend more then 5 seconds of your time above going to the local mini market
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 10, 2016, 01:38:03 PM
Your odds of not making it back in one piece are greater then getting the winning ticket.

Unless your cashing in on peoples stupidity to which I say "nicely done".

Haha. Love it
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: joe1234 on January 10, 2016, 01:56:27 PM
I plan on going to Delaware tomorrow to purchase tickets, depending on this outcome.. Delaware is a state in which winners can remain anonymous.

I'm offering to buy people tickets and email to them or they can pick it up in Brooklyn, or Lakewood (I'll be there tomorrow night)

Im charging a premium to cover gas, tolls, and time.

If you purchase 1-10 tickets, $5 each
11+ tickets will be $4 each

Please pm me your email and amount of tickets you want.

Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?


ill pay you more than $5 a ticket when I win  :P
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: grodnoking on January 10, 2016, 02:05:47 PM
Your odds of not making it back in one piece are greater then getting the winning ticket.

Unless your cashing in on peoples stupidity to which I say "nicely done".
Perfect
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2016, 02:21:29 PM
Don't have any friends in MD, MI, or OH?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: rivkao on January 10, 2016, 02:25:25 PM
Don't you have to be a citizen at the time?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: EJB on January 10, 2016, 02:26:25 PM
Do you charge extra to have a rabbi bless the tickets???
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yos9694 on January 10, 2016, 02:27:39 PM
Guys, come on. You can always set up a revocable trust or a foundation to claim the prize IF you win and that way stay 90% anonymous. Your name won't be easily connected with the winnings, though someone sufficiently motivated could dig through the layers. But I doubt its possible to stay 100% anonymous even if you claim the prize anonymously, unless you don't plan on really using the money.... chavra chavra is lei.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2016, 02:29:25 PM
The press will break through any trust.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yos9694 on January 10, 2016, 02:37:27 PM
The press will break through any trust.

Can or will? The jackpot on 2.11.15 was very large and one of the winners was a trust. No digging into that by the media.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2016, 02:41:36 PM
Bug difference between large and largest ever by leaps and bounds.
Never seen this much lottery coverage before.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: grodnoking on January 10, 2016, 02:44:50 PM
Bug difference between large and largest ever by leaps and bounds.
Never seen this much lottery coverage before.
And that is why they raised the odds.

And the way I figure it, if you wait untill a little before the deadline they will have forgotten all about it. Or claim it on a day of a terrorist attack or something.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2016, 02:46:05 PM
Day before deadline and it will be the top story in every paper...
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: EJB on January 10, 2016, 02:48:58 PM
Day before deadline and it will be the top story in every paper...

Unless there's a 1.4bn jackpot before then :)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: grodnoking on January 10, 2016, 02:52:24 PM
Day before deadline and it will be the top story in every paper...
Two weeks before then. Or on a day of a bigger story as I said.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 10, 2016, 04:56:18 PM
Don't have any friends in MD, MI, or OH?

Got my grandfather to do it. Thanks
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: afro on January 10, 2016, 04:59:29 PM
I smell blackmail.

When we win how much is it gonna cost us for u not leak our identities?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 10, 2016, 05:18:58 PM
I smell blackmail.

When we win how much is it gonna cost us for u not leak our identities?

I knew that question would come. Would probably be a lot cheaper to pay off one guy than pay off the whole planet  8)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 10, 2016, 06:15:42 PM
anyone interested in a DDF lottery pool??  im in MD so we can all be anonymous.   ;)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 10, 2016, 06:18:00 PM
I'll join
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: ckmk47 on January 10, 2016, 06:20:09 PM
anyone interested in a DDF lottery pool??  im in MD so we can all be anonymous.   ;)
Can't afford your own 2 bucks?  :D
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dawie on January 10, 2016, 06:22:12 PM
any anonymous states take credit/debit card too?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 10, 2016, 06:24:44 PM
Can't afford your own 2 bucks?  :D

I can  but the idea of a pool is to increase everyone's chance of winning with that same $2 by splitting the potential winnings.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: regular on January 10, 2016, 08:37:59 PM
just curious isn't it illegal to sell a ticket if the buyer is not present? would that prevent you from being able to claim the prize?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 10, 2016, 08:41:21 PM
just curious isn't it illegal to sell a ticket if the buyer is not present? would that prevent you from being able to claim the prize?

Why is the buyer not present? Where does it say I can't resell my tickets?

When they have pools do all 10 people crowd into the store?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 10, 2016, 09:19:51 PM
So who's in??!?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 10, 2016, 09:24:55 PM
So who's in??!?

Started a wiki. I am
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yelped on January 10, 2016, 09:33:59 PM
Started a wiki. I am
Me, too.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 10, 2016, 09:53:42 PM
I guess we should make a deadline and a time I will be buying the tickets. Everyone who wants to be part of the pool must pay by paypal or google wallet before the deadline, after which I will purchase the tickets and post pictures here.
I am assuming we are doing $2/each??  Let me know what you all want to do.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2016, 09:55:36 PM
I guess we should make a deadline and a time I will be buying the tickets. Everyone who wants to be part of the pool must pay by paypal or google wallet before the deadline, after which I will purchase the tickets and post pictures here.
I am assuming we are doing $2/each??  Let me know what you all want to do.
20 cents each. Buying more than 1=katnus emunah ;)
Anyway, there are 57 other lottery threads, dunno why you picked this one for a pool.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 10, 2016, 09:56:54 PM
I guess we should make a deadline and a time I will be buying the tickets. Everyone who wants to be part of the pool must pay by paypal or google wallet before the deadline, after which I will purchase the tickets and post pictures here.
I am assuming we are doing $2/each??  Let me know what you all want to do.

I would advise against posting pictures here, rather send the pics to each person through a PM
I would do $4, please pm each name your PayPal or quick pay address.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 10, 2016, 09:59:52 PM
20 cents each. Buying more than 1=katnus emunah ;)
Anyway, there are 57 other lottery threads, dunno why you picked this one for a pool.

Technically by making a pool or several tickets you are opening up more possibilities of winning amounts which could all very well be what He has in mind for each individual.   

Not sure though if you get a bad apple in the pool will it ruin it for the klal  :)

also the only thing I get when searching powerball is Dish washing detergent  lol  where are the other threads?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2016, 10:03:10 PM
Technically by making a pool or several tickets you are opening up more possibilities of winning amounts which could all very well be what He has in mind for each individual.   

Not sure though if you get a bad apple in the pool will it ruin it for the klal  :)
I don't get it, how does buying more than 1 ticket for the pool help you?
Mathematically your odds are still nil. And Gd doesn't need you to spend more money to make you win if he wants you to win.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yelped on January 10, 2016, 10:03:41 PM
Bad apples are good in a mix of good apples... חלבנה...
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 10, 2016, 10:05:08 PM
I don't get it, how does buying more than 1 ticket for the pool help you?
Mathematically your odds are still nil. And Gd doesn't need you to spend more money to make you win if he wants you to win.
Mathematically your odds are ten times better if you have ten tickets. 1/29M vs 1/290M.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: EJB on January 10, 2016, 10:05:50 PM
I don't get it, how does buying more than 1 ticket for the pool help you?
Mathematically your odds are still nil. And Gd doesn't need you to spend more money to make you win if he wants you to win.

It's tzedakah :)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 10, 2016, 10:06:56 PM
Why do we need 2 tickets per person?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 10, 2016, 10:08:06 PM
It's tzedakah :)

To the government?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yelped on January 10, 2016, 10:12:02 PM
I'm fine with one $2 ticket.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 10, 2016, 10:12:20 PM
I'm fine with one $2 ticket.

+1
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 10, 2016, 10:13:38 PM
Changed
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 10, 2016, 10:14:52 PM
Supposedly this is the Staten Island winner, can someone confirm?

Steinhearter?

Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 10, 2016, 10:16:24 PM
Impossible to remain anonymous.

Everyone will know something is up. You'll be walking around with a big dumb smile, quiting your job etc.

If you're worried about shnorreres just pay someone to sit outside your house and dish out C notes to everyone everyday. Say 10k a day.


Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: joe1234 on January 10, 2016, 10:19:22 PM
i'm in
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2016, 10:23:33 PM
Mathematically your odds are ten times better if you have ten tickets. 1/29M vs 1/290M.
10xnil=nil
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yoohoo on January 10, 2016, 10:24:02 PM
I'm in
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2016, 10:24:43 PM
To the government?
https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/23779454
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2016, 10:25:32 PM
I'm in if it's 20 cents for 1 ticket :)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: joe1234 on January 10, 2016, 10:28:22 PM
I'm in if it's 20 cents for 1 ticket :)
well what happens if 100 DDF'rs want to be in, then everyone will put in their .02  :o
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 10, 2016, 10:29:17 PM
10xnil=nil
290,000,000 x nil = nil. However, 290,000,000 x 1/290,000,000 = 1, or a 100% chance of winning.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 10, 2016, 10:29:48 PM
I'm in if it's 20 cents for 1 ticket :)

We can do a $0.20 pool but we would need at least a minyan to start..
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 10, 2016, 10:30:38 PM
290,000,000 x nil = nil. However, 290,000,000 x 1/290,000,000 = 1, or a 100% chance of winning.


sooooo... Can we get 290,000,000 DDF members to join the pool??
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: joe1234 on January 10, 2016, 10:31:24 PM
We can do a $0.20 pool but we would need at least a minyan to start..
we can make to separate pools one for $2 and one for $0.20 so long as no one drowns...
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2016, 10:32:00 PM
290,000,000 x nil = nil. However, 290,000,000 x 1/290,000,000 = 1, or a 100% chance of winning.
They're both statistically 0.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 10, 2016, 10:32:29 PM

sooooo... Can we get 290,000,000 DDF members to join the pool??
Heavens, no! If there would be 290,000,000 DDFers, nobody would be able to discuss anything.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 10, 2016, 10:33:24 PM
Heavens, no! If there would be 290,000,000 DDFers, nobody would be able to discuss anything.

and the UPS method would for sure have been leaked by now...
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 10, 2016, 10:34:50 PM
and the UPS method would for sure have been leaked by now...
Nope. Whoever finds out about that takes it to the grave. It's called UPS Express.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: grodnoking on January 10, 2016, 10:42:14 PM
I'm in
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 10, 2016, 10:43:25 PM
Nope. Whoever finds out about that takes it to the grave. It's called UPS Express.

Let's not go there.

But anyway if this story about the winner in Staten Island is true how can you not believe. I have a question, if you buy 10 games and you win on the 7th game, if you only bought one ticket you would not have one..... Any logical terutzim?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: mendy613 on January 10, 2016, 10:46:19 PM
I am in :)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 10, 2016, 10:47:29 PM
I am in :)

Add name to wiki
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: EJB on January 10, 2016, 10:54:53 PM
If two frum people win consecutive huge lotteries a lot of Jew hating will ensue.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 10, 2016, 10:57:44 PM
If two frum people win consecutive huge lotteries a lot of Jew hating will ensue.

Is it confirmed that the MM was a Jew?

Besides you just added one of the many points as to why one should opt in to this pool.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: EJB on January 10, 2016, 11:19:29 PM

Is it confirmed that the MM was a Jew?

Besides you just added one of the many points as to why one should opt in to this pool.

You mean the point that lottery winners r correlated ?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 10, 2016, 11:31:10 PM
You mean the point that lottery winners r correlated ?

No, that if you wish to remain anonymous buy a ticket in an anonymous state. This way nobody will know of another Jew won ;)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 10, 2016, 11:34:48 PM
+1. I always make sure to only win the lottery in the anonymous states. That's why none of you have ever heard of me. Don't want to be misgareh ba'umos, ch'v.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on January 11, 2016, 01:05:52 AM
Day before deadline and it will be the top story in every paper...
Claim it the day Donald Trump wins the Iowa caucuses...  ;D
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Emkay on January 11, 2016, 01:24:56 AM
Mathematically your odds are ten times better if you have ten tickets. 1/29M vs 1/290M.
Your math is incorrect
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 11, 2016, 01:29:10 AM
Your math is incorrect
Which part?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: RefuaFan on January 11, 2016, 01:43:42 AM
well what happens if 100 DDF'rs want to be in, then everyone will put in their .02  :o
Lol, good one.

Hmm, debating about joining. Will let you know shortly.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: elit on January 11, 2016, 07:23:17 AM
Your math is incorrect
+1000 wondering why it took so long for someone to point out
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: elit on January 11, 2016, 07:28:46 AM
Which part?
Just keep following your cheshbon.. what  would the odds be if you buy 100? 1000?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Yordai Dooma on January 11, 2016, 08:14:27 AM
I'm in. Can someone please add me to the wiki if there are spots avail. I'm on mobile
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Zkpncs48 on January 11, 2016, 08:17:11 AM
Just keep following your cheshbon.. what  would the odds be if you buy 100? 1000?
his math is correct 100 = 1/2.9m 1000 = 1/290k 10000 = 1/29k 100k= 1/2.9k 1m = 1/290 10m= 1/29 100m = 1/2.9;
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 11, 2016, 08:26:23 AM
his math is correct 100 = 1/2.9m 1000 = 1/290k 10000 = 1/29k 100k= 1/2.9k 1m = 1/290 10m= 1/29 100m = 1/2.9;
Sounds wrong.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: TimT on January 11, 2016, 08:34:50 AM
I'm in. Can someone please add me to the wiki
Done
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yuneeq on January 11, 2016, 09:02:24 AM
Sounds wrong.

Well guess what happens if he buys all 290m tickets?

This isn't dice rolling, he knows his tickets will not be repeated.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 11, 2016, 09:36:03 AM
Well guess what happens if he buys all 290m tickets?

This isn't dice rolling, he knows his tickets will not be repeated.
Still sounds wrong. 10 tickets is 10 more chances to win. That's all. Not multiplied.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: myb821 on January 11, 2016, 09:39:28 AM
Still sounds wrong. 10 tickets is 10 more chances to win. That's all. Not multiplied.
you dont know how odds work then. His math is 100% correct. when you have 1 ticket it means you have 1 out of the 190 million possible combinations. When you have ten you have 10 of the 290M possibilities which means he has 1/29M of all the combinations.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Emkay on January 11, 2016, 09:43:37 AM
you dont know how odds work then. His math is 100% correct. when you have 1 ticket it means you have 1 out of the 190 million possible combinations. When you have ten you have 10 of the 290M possibilities which means he has 1/29M of all the combinations.
Your 6 line argument will do little to sway the other side, there are entire books written on this exact subject
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Luvtotravel on January 11, 2016, 09:44:41 AM
please add me in
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: myb821 on January 11, 2016, 09:46:03 AM
Your 6 line argument will do little to sway the other side, there are entire books written on this exact subject
what are you talking about. Its straight math what possible arguments could there be?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: TimT on January 11, 2016, 09:46:14 AM
please add me in
Done
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 11, 2016, 09:47:04 AM
The math is fine, but 1/29M and 1/290M are both statistically insignificant.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: myb821 on January 11, 2016, 09:47:42 AM
The math is fine, but 1/29M and 1/290M are both statistically insignificant.
no argument here on that
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Emkay on January 11, 2016, 09:50:10 AM
what are you talking about. Its straight math what possible arguments could there be?
I'll try to link to something on this topic later when I'm by a computer and have time to check
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yuneeq on January 11, 2016, 09:50:17 AM
Your 6 line argument will do little to sway the other side, there are entire books written on this exact subject

Well lets make it simpler to understand.

Lets say the lottery has 10 different possibilities 0-9.

If you buy 1 ticket, what are your odds?  1/10
If you buy 2 tickets, what are your odds? 2/10
If you buy 3 tickets, what are your odds? 3/10
If you buy 4 tickets, what are your odds?  4/10
If you buy 5 tickets, what are your odds?  5/10

I can keep going and going until my post is as long as the book you'd like to read, but I think you're confused here.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Yordai Dooma on January 11, 2016, 10:54:35 AM
Done
Thanks!
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: ajs625 on January 11, 2016, 11:02:01 AM
The more important issue is not remaining anonymous but buying a ticket in a state that's tax beneficial for the winner hmmm..... what difference does it make if I'm anonymous and that state has high tax rates.if I'm wrong please explain how so.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: myb821 on January 11, 2016, 11:14:45 AM
The more important issue is not remaining anonymous but buying a ticket in a state that's tax beneficial for the winner hmmm..... what difference does it make if I'm anonymous and that state has high tax rates.if I'm wrong please explain how so.
you pay taxes both where you reside and where you win. Yes one may credit towards the other but it wont help you get out of paying the high rates of where you have residency.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: username on January 11, 2016, 11:32:56 AM
does the purchaser 'gift' the $ to everyone in the pool? Or are they all equal winners?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 11, 2016, 11:37:02 AM
does the purchaser 'gift' the $ to everyone in the pool? Or are they all equal winners?

It's claimed all together
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 11, 2016, 11:44:08 AM
we will have to make a shabbaton.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yelped on January 11, 2016, 12:03:47 PM
we will have to make a shabbaton.
I'm available to daven Shachris. :) Just make sure to eat before. It may take a while. :)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 11, 2016, 12:24:33 PM


you dont know how odds work then. His math is 100% correct. when you have 1 ticket it means you have 1 out of the 190 million possible combinations. When you have ten you have 10 of the 290M possibilities which means he has 1/29M of all the combinations.

Not convinced.
Each individual ticket has 1 in 290 mm possibility of winning. Buying two tickets dosnt split the 290 in half.

(It's more like rubah deleisa kamon, not more chances. Just more options.)

All jmho
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Buruch on January 11, 2016, 12:34:30 PM
What I do't get is if you guys win, it gets split up into 20. That's 65m each. Do y'all play every time it hits 65m? Unless you're just playing for your much better odds... :)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: myb821 on January 11, 2016, 12:38:34 PM

Not convinced.
Each individual ticket has 1 in 290 mm possibility of winning. Buying two tickets dosnt split the 290 in half.

(It's more like rubah deleisa kamon, not more chances. Just more options.)

All jmho
sorry to be mean but your opinion is wrong. Its straight math.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: TimT on January 11, 2016, 12:54:21 PM
What I do't get is if you guys win, it gets split up into 20. That's 65m each. Do y'all play every time it hits 65m? Unless you're just playing for your much better odds... :)
Many play it for less than $65M
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 11, 2016, 12:54:27 PM
sorry to be mean but your opinion is wrong. Its straight math.
You can be mean don't worry, I can take it.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: JamesIV on January 11, 2016, 12:56:38 PM
I'm in
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: elit on January 11, 2016, 01:09:16 PM
http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1369659/if-i-buy-2-lottery-tickets-do-i-double-my-chance-of-winning
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: teetle on January 11, 2016, 01:34:32 PM
Can u plz add me in.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: RefuaFan on January 11, 2016, 01:51:46 PM

Not convinced.
Each individual ticket has 1 in 290 mm possibility of winning. Buying two tickets dosnt split the 290 in half.

(It's more like rubah deleisa kamon, not more chances. Just more options.)

All jmho

Here, I'll show you:

1 ticket = 1/292mil chance... = 0.000000003424657534246575% chance of winning (See Dan's comments)
2 tickets = 2/292mil chance.. = 0.000000006849315068493151% chance of winning (See Dan's comments)

Just to show the calculator's background thinking for you:
  0.000000003424657534246575
+0.000000003424657534246575
___________________________
=0.000000006849315068493150

EDIT: Also, 292mil/2 = 146mil. So do 2 tickets split the 292 in half?

2 tickets = 2/292mil chance.. = 0.000000006849315068493151% chance of winning (See Dan's comments)
292mil/2 = 146mil.
1/146mil = 0.000000006849315068493151% chance of winning (See Dan's comments), the same as 2/292mil.


You see that there is a 0.000000000000000000001 difference between adding and multiplying. Either the calculator dropped that off (because see Dan's comments), or, more likely, the discrepancy didn't work out with decimals, sort of like trying to divide 1 by 3 on a calculator (it will say 0.333333333, which will still leave it just under 1 when multiplied times 3. The decimal version of a number sometimes isn't as accurate as the fraction version of the number, i.e. 1/3).

now let's jump the math up to 10 tickets.

1 ticket = 1/292mil chance........ = 0.000000003424657534246575% chance of winning (See Dan's comments)
10 tickets = 10/292mil chances.. = 0.00000003424657534246575% chance of winning (See Dan's comments)

Just for clarity, let's double check that with the number you get from adding the chances from 1 ticket 10 times.

  0.000000003424657534246575
  0.000000003424657534246575
  0.000000003424657534246575
  0.000000003424657534246575
  0.000000003424657534246575
  0.000000003424657534246575
  0.000000003424657534246575
  0.000000003424657534246575
  0.000000003424657534246575
+0.000000003424657534246575
___________________________
=0.00000003424657534246575% chance of winning (See Dan's comments)
(Had to switch to scientific calculator to successfully copy+paste the number 10 times and maintain it's total integrity. Standard calculator cut off some numbers).
You notice that it dropped a decimal point.

And what about multiplying the chance from 1 ticket by 10?

10 x 0.000000003424657534246575
....=0.00000003424657534246575  % chance of winning (See Dan's comments)

Notice that it has stayed the same numbers as the adding version, and again, it simply dropped a decimal. So in jumps of ten, the math from adding the number is the same as multiplying the number. Now, here's what seems to get people arguing. Is 10/292mil really the same as 1/29.2mil? Let's find out!

10/292mil = 0.00000003424657534246575% chance of winning (See Dan's comments)
1/29.2mil = 0.00000003448275862068966% chance of winning (See Dan's comments)
Just to be clear, in math, you can often cut down the number on top of the dividing sign, and do the same thing to the number on the bottom half of the dividing sign. It still maintains the integrity of the number in most (but not all) cases.  So 2/4 = 1/2 (cut both by 2 AKA in half), 4/8 also = 1/2 (cut both by 4 AKA in quarter), and 5/35 = 1/7 (cut both by 5, AKA in fifths).
So with fractions, it makes sense to say that 10/292mil = 1/29.2mil. You're just cutting both sides by 10, AKA tenths.

As you can see, whether adding or multiplying, the chances for the ticket are almost exactly the same. And the chances shown by doing the numbers out of 292mil or cutting it down to smaller numbers like 29.2mil when doing blocks of 10, 100, 1000, etc. (See Zkpncs48's comment) are almost the same. Sure, the 1 vs. 10 example is off by a couple hundred billionths (the name of the decimal spot where the 1/29.2mil and 10/292mil start to vary), but see Dan's comments about statistical significance. For anyone determining their chances, the numbers are basically the same. I'll let someone else post out the numbers for 100, 1000 etc. amounts of tickets.

TL;DR = See Dan's comments.

Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on January 11, 2016, 01:53:07 PM

Not convinced.
Each individual ticket has 1 in 290 mm possibility of winning. Buying two tickets dosnt split the 290 in half.

(It's more like rubah deleisa kamon, not more chances. Just more options.)

All jmho
???
   1                     2
-------      =      -------
 29m               290m

?
?
?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yos9694 on January 11, 2016, 01:59:08 PM
   1                     2
-------      =      -------
 29m               290m

Rounded to 2dp, yes. Unrounded, no.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yuneeq on January 11, 2016, 02:28:41 PM
http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1369659/if-i-buy-2-lottery-tickets-do-i-double-my-chance-of-winning

So I guess you're retracting?
Every answer says that this type of lottery you double your chances by buying 2 different tickets.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: elit on January 11, 2016, 02:30:40 PM
So I guess you're retracting?
Every answer says that this type of lottery you double your chances by buying 2 different tickets.
Correct
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 11, 2016, 02:43:18 PM
One things a fact.
Buying two tickets doubles your chance of loosing
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: TimT on January 11, 2016, 02:44:07 PM
One things a fact.
Buying two tickets doubles your chance of loosing
And 290M ?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Zkpncs48 on January 11, 2016, 02:44:40 PM
   1                     2
-------      =      -------
 145m             290m
FTFY
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on January 11, 2016, 03:07:01 PM
FTFY
Right. My bad. So isn't that an indication that the cbc is right?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Zkpncs48 on January 11, 2016, 03:23:08 PM
Right. My bad. So isn't that an indication that the cbc is right?
Not at all. It actually explains why he's wrong. I dont really have the patience to explain it though. Sorry
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 11, 2016, 03:31:50 PM
All mathematical calculations aside, I think that buying 2 tickets doesn't make sense. Your chances are still so low, and the change in likelihood so insignificant, that it doesn't make sense to spend more money. The first ticket purchased I understand, that you want to have a ticket in the biggest lottery in history. I'm not sure what the second tickets adds.
My $.02.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: srulky on January 11, 2016, 03:37:13 PM
When you win....
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 11, 2016, 03:37:51 PM
All mathematical calculations aside, I think that buying 2 tickets doesn't make sense. Your chances are still so low, and the change in likelihood so insignificant, that it doesn't make sense to spend more money. The first ticket purchased I understand, that you want to have a ticket in the biggest lottery in history. I'm not sure what the second tickets adds.
My $.02.

2nd ticket hurts as I explained earlier ;)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 11, 2016, 03:39:33 PM
2nd ticket hurts as I explained earlier ;)
You mean this?
20 cents each. Buying more than 1=katnus emunah ;)
Anyway, there are 57 other lottery threads, dunno why you picked this one for a pool.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Luvtotravel on January 11, 2016, 11:26:20 PM
didnt get email address yet
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 11, 2016, 11:30:16 PM
didnt get email address yet

check inbox now.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Ergel on January 12, 2016, 12:37:05 AM
I can't believe there was an argument about basic statistics taught in ninth grade math
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Emkay on January 12, 2016, 02:47:40 AM
I can't believe there was an argument about basic statistics taught in ninth grade math
Stranger things have happened
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 12, 2016, 05:54:07 AM
I can't believe there was an argument about basic statistics taught in ninth grade math
Math in ninth grade??
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Boruch999 on January 12, 2016, 07:20:05 AM
his math is correct 100 = 1/2.9m 1000 = 1/290k 10000 = 1/29k 100k= 1/2.9k 1m = 1/290 10m= 1/29 100m = 1/2.9;
+1
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 12, 2016, 07:51:26 AM
Are we getting all quick picks? Or maybe we should choose some numbers? Perhaps a different powerball number on each game. Or something else if anyone has some insight. 
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yos9694 on January 12, 2016, 08:40:09 AM
Quick pick is OK for when you buy just one ticket, but as soon as you buy more than one its a waste of money because the machine could randomly pick the same numbers on multiple tickets. Then you'd win multiple times and have to split the prize with yourself.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 12, 2016, 08:55:44 AM
Quick pick is OK for when you buy just one ticket, but as soon as you buy more than one its a waste of money because the machine could randomly pick the same numbers on multiple tickets. Then you'd win multiple times and have to split the prize with yourself.
Meh don't worry so much.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: 12HRS on January 12, 2016, 09:01:49 AM
Quick pick is OK for when you buy just one ticket, but as soon as you buy more than one its a waste of money because the machine could randomly pick the same numbers on multiple tickets. Then you'd win multiple times and have to split the prize with yourself.

I would assume the odds of getting the same numbers on a second ticket are the same as winning the lotto
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 12, 2016, 09:02:41 AM
I would assume the odds of getting the same numbers on a second ticket are the same as winning the lotto
Yup.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: myi on January 12, 2016, 09:09:42 AM
They say not to pick your own tickets like using birthdays and anneversaries and ect. Because  those numbers add up to 1-32 and the numbers range 1-69 and even though u might use numbers 32-69 by your year you were born, you would only use a big number once or twice saying its annerversary  or birthday .so the other 3 numbers your leaving out the chance for it to be 1-69 .
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yelped on January 12, 2016, 09:33:15 AM
I would assume the odds of getting the same numbers on a second ticket are the same as winning the lotto
Lol
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 12, 2016, 09:37:17 AM
Stranger things have happened
Who started this?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Emkay on January 12, 2016, 09:39:58 AM
Who started this?
Me
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 12, 2016, 09:43:01 AM
Me
Should I ask if you were cutting class in ninth grade?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Emkay on January 12, 2016, 09:48:36 AM
Should I ask if you were cutting class in ninth grade?
That's personal   . I realized it's a shallow bunch over here so i let this one slide
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 12, 2016, 10:03:24 AM
That's personnel.
No comment on sixth grade spelling class.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 12, 2016, 10:03:56 AM
Quick pick is OK for when you buy just one ticket, but as soon as you buy more than one its a waste of money because the machine could randomly pick the same numbers on multiple tickets. Then you'd win multiple times and have to split the prize with yourself.
I would assume the odds of getting the same numbers on a second ticket are the same as winning the lotto
Not a good answer. You'e playing on the long shot that you'll hit miniscule odds in your favor, but you're ignoring miniscule odds against your favor?

I'll give you a better answer, which is what happened to my office pool (which I didn't participate in). They collected $10 each from 40-50 people. They wanted to maximize their median return from the non-jackpot prizes. The way to do that would be to spread out your selection of the red powerball numbers as evenly as possible. They got lazy though, and ended up quick picking most of them, leaving a very lumpy distribution of the 26 red powerball combinations. Natrually, they only ended up having 2 tickets with the correct red number, and got a total of $8 in secondary prizes (on $400-500 of tickets).
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Emkay on January 12, 2016, 10:08:12 AM
No comment on sixth grade spelling class.
A lifetime of education means nothing once autocorrect starts screwing with your life
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 12, 2016, 10:11:03 AM
Not a good answer. You'e playing on the long shot that you'll hit miniscule odds in your favor, but you're ignoring miniscule odds against your favor?

I'll give you a better answer, which is what happened to my office pool (which I didn't participate in). They collected $10 each from 40-50 people. They wanted to maximize their median return from the non-jackpot prizes. The way to do that would be to spread out your selection of the red powerball numbers as evenly as possible. They got lazy though, and ended up quick picking most of them, leaving a very lumpy distribution of the 26 red powerball combinations. Natrually, they only ended up having 2 tickets with the correct red number, and got a total of $8 in secondary prizes (on $400-500 of tickets).

This is why I said perhaps picking the powerball number only.  but the flip side is not much better because by spreading out the powerball you are limiting yourself to only a few possible winners.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 12, 2016, 10:11:28 AM
A lifetime of education means nothing once autocorrect starts screwing with your life
Smartphones, stupid (looking) people.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 12, 2016, 10:13:49 AM
This is why I said perhaps picking the powerball number only.  but the flip side is not much better because by spreading out the powerball you are limiting yourself to only a few possible winners.
It's called hedging. Though I supposed you could argue that you're going high risk/high reward with the whole ticket anyway, so might as well pick one powerball number and go with it.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 12, 2016, 10:19:11 AM
It's called hedging. Though I supposed you could argue that you're going high risk/high reward with the whole ticket anyway, so might as well pick one powerball number and go with it.

Quick picking would be high risk reward.  How high risk can we go!??  lol
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 12, 2016, 11:08:20 AM
Enough with all the math.

Playing the lotto is not about math or odds. It's all about philosophy.

When I say that your chances doubled dosnt sound right its because its ridiculous. When dealing with such a large number of decimal points, doubling your chances is not considered quantifiable.

It's compared to what we call in halacha speak a "rov beteva" . in other words, for eg. of course mathematicians and statisticians   could quantify all the animals in the world and tell you the odds of the animal not being a treifa.
But the numbers are irrelevant. You're not winning. Period. Finished. It doesn't matter if you buy 1 or 5 tickets. It is neged hatevah to win. Impossible.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 12, 2016, 11:26:01 AM
Enough with all the math.

Playing the lotto is not about math or odds. It's all about philosophy.

When I say that your chances doubled dosnt sound right its because its ridiculous. When dealing with such a large number of decimal points, doubling your chances is not considered quantifiable.

It's compared to what we call in halacha speak a "rov beteva" . in other words, for eg. of course mathematicians and statisticians   could quantify all the animals in the world and tell you the odds of the animal not being a treifa.
But the numbers are irrelevant. You're not winning. Period. Finished. It doesn't matter if you buy 1 or 5 tickets. It is neged hatevah to win. Impossible.
Lol. Except that you made several posts speaking specifically about the math.
Sounds wrong.
Still sounds wrong. 10 tickets is 10 more chances to win. That's all. Not multiplied.

Not convinced.
Each individual ticket has 1 in 290 mm possibility of winning. Buying two tickets dosnt split the 290 in half.

(It's more like rubah deleisa kamon, not more chances. Just more options.)

All jmho
I have no problem with people making philosophical arguments, just leave the math out of it, or do the math correctly. :D
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: etech0 on January 12, 2016, 12:01:27 PM
I would assume the odds of getting the same numbers on a second ticket are the same as winning the lotto
Not double? Since it doesn't matter which one you started with?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: etech0 on January 12, 2016, 12:02:03 PM
A lifetime of education means nothing once autocorrect starts screwing with your life
like!
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 12, 2016, 12:23:28 PM


Enough with all the math.

Playing the lotto is not about math or odds. It's all about philosophy.
When you lose on the math side, say you're really a philosopher. I was gonna get a PhD in mathematics, but instead I went for philosophy and liberal arts.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 12, 2016, 12:43:55 PM
When you lose on the math side, say you're really a philosopher. I was gonna get a PhD in mathematics, but instead I went for philosophy and liberal arts.
Actually, that's not as far fetched as it sounds. One of the fields within philosophy is logic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic), which is obviously a critical component in many mathematical fields.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 12, 2016, 12:52:39 PM
Actually, that's not as far fetched as it sounds. One of the fields within philosophy is logic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic), which is obviously a critical component in many mathematical fields.
My argument is very logical.
In mathematics is there no room for rounding up or down/ clearly trivial etc?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 12, 2016, 12:57:11 PM
My argument is very logical.
In mathematics is there no room for rounding up or down/ clearly trivial etc?
I'm not arguing with that part. As Dan and other mentioned earlier, your chances of winning are what we would call statistically insignificant with 1 ticket or with 10 tickets. I'm talking about the discussion of doubling your odds with a second ticket, etc.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Barryg on January 12, 2016, 01:03:16 PM
If no-one wins tomorrow, I propose that for the next one we find 200 ddfers to put in one penny each.
Would be funny if that ticket won 2nd or third prize, as it would net only $50k/$250
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: etech0 on January 12, 2016, 01:10:45 PM
If no-one wins tomorrow, I propose that for the next one we find 200 ddfers to put in one penny each.
Would be funny if that ticket won 2nd or third prize, as it would net only $50k/$250
It's still good return on your penny :)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: stbaum on January 12, 2016, 01:40:55 PM
If no-one wins tomorrow, I propose that for the next one we find 200 ddfers to put in one penny each.
Would be funny if that ticket won 2nd or third prize, as it would net only $50k/$250

If that actually comes about, count me in :) i'll double my chances so long as i can add my $0.02  ;D
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: sruly on January 12, 2016, 03:33:52 PM
I'm in
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Glamette on January 12, 2016, 03:56:07 PM
well this seems fun, any more spots? If so, then I'm in.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: jackofall on January 12, 2016, 03:57:49 PM
in
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: rivkao on January 12, 2016, 04:03:49 PM
in
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: etech0 on January 12, 2016, 04:12:44 PM
http://lifehacker.com/winning-the-powerball-lottery-won-t-solve-your-problems-1752378740
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: miles lover on January 12, 2016, 04:19:20 PM
Enough with all the math.

Playing the lotto is not about math or odds. It's all about philosophy.

When I say that your chances doubled dosnt sound right its because its ridiculous. When dealing with such a large number of decimal points, doubling your chances is not considered quantifiable.

It's compared to what we call in halacha speak a "rov beteva" . in other words, for eg. of course mathematicians and statisticians   could quantify all the animals in the world and tell you the odds of the animal not being a treifa.
But the numbers are irrelevant. You're not winning. Period. Finished. It doesn't matter if you buy 1 or 5 tickets. It is neged hatevah to win. Impossible.
It does double your odds, period.
Odds can be smaller then u have ever learned in school. Broaden your mind a little.
Next, it's not kneged teva to win. Somebody got to win so that can't be neged teva. If it's called neged teva in halacha that's different from what it's normally used for.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 12, 2016, 04:41:21 PM


It does double your odds, period.
Odds can be smaller then u have ever learned in school. Broaden your mind a little.
Next, it's not kneged teva to win. Somebody got to win so that can't be neged teva. If it's called neged teva in halacha that's different from what it's normally used for.

Um, first of all, noone won the last few tries.
Second, its neged teva for YOU to win. That's the whole point here.


It is most definitely unatural to win the lottery. I'm so sorry to shatter your dreams.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yoohoo on January 12, 2016, 04:42:48 PM
when we win we should promise to still be a part of DD even though we wont need a break on anything again. It will be lie down first class for cash:)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: 3yummyboys on January 12, 2016, 04:55:38 PM

when we win we should promise to still be a part of DD even though we wont need a break on anything again. It will be lie down first class for cash:)

That's not the only reason we are part of DDF :)
If (when) I win the lottery I would still visit my DDF family for the TRs, advice and more
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: miles lover on January 12, 2016, 05:10:34 PM

Um, first of all, noone won the last few tries.
Second, its neged teva for YOU to win. That's the whole point here.


It is most definitely unatural to win the lottery. I'm so sorry to shatter your dreams.
How can it be neged teva ? Look at it like there is a box with 292 mill tickets. There is gonna be a winner. If nobody bought that ticket doesn't mean that the ticket didn't win. There was just no claimer.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: TimT on January 12, 2016, 06:16:14 PM
How can it be neged teva ? Look at it like there is a box with 292 mill tickets. There is gonna be a winner. If nobody bought that ticket doesn't mean that the ticket didn't win. There was just no claimer.
It means there was no ticket printed with that number.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 12, 2016, 06:19:11 PM



Um, first of all, noone won the last few tries.
The fact that nobody one was neged tevah.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dr Moose on January 12, 2016, 06:19:44 PM
It means there was no ticket printed with that number.
+1

Even though there were millions of tickets sold, plenty of that must've had the same numbers.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 12, 2016, 06:20:01 PM
when we win we should promise to still be a part of DD even though we wont need a break on anything again. It will be lie down first class for cash:)
How does winning alleviate your need for popcorn?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yoohoo on January 12, 2016, 06:43:55 PM
How does winning alleviate your need for popcorn?
Imagine the luxury of being able to get popcorn from ur local grocer!
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: miles lover on January 12, 2016, 07:08:45 PM
It means there was no ticket printed with that number.
I know how the lottery works. U didn't get my point
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: BOOKY on January 12, 2016, 07:39:01 PM
How do I pay? How do I get the actual ticket?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 12, 2016, 07:42:43 PM
How do I pay? How do I get the actual ticket?

 its a pool ..  you will not get the actual ticket.  I will send a picture to everyone in the pool as soon as I buy them. and they will be owned equally by everyone in the pool.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: unclesam on January 12, 2016, 08:09:16 PM
In
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: username on January 12, 2016, 08:34:30 PM
Its neged hateva to remain annonomous, especially when a pool wins.





Especially among DDF....


Especially if there's a thread about it.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 12, 2016, 08:38:37 PM
Its neged hateva to remain annonomous, especially when a pool wins.





Especially among DDF....


Especially if there's a thread about it.

Theres a thread??  what thread?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yelped on January 12, 2016, 08:42:13 PM
Theres a thread??  what thread?
We'll brainstorm here for ideas how to remain anonymous..
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: 12HRS on January 12, 2016, 08:44:46 PM
its hopeless to stay anon with 40 other from people
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yelped on January 12, 2016, 08:48:10 PM
Are we doing lump sum or installments?

I'm all ready. :)

Or could every winner choose separately when you claim as a group?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 12, 2016, 11:06:02 PM
Are we doing lump sum or installments?

I'm all ready. :)

Or could every winner choose separately when you claim as a group?

At $1.25m a year for the next 29 years for each of us, I'd go with the lump sum.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yuneeq on January 13, 2016, 12:11:19 AM
If 291,999,999 people can only jump up to 3 feet high,
but one person can jump 5 feet high, is his 5 foot jump keneged hateva?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: username on January 13, 2016, 12:13:35 AM
At $1.25m a year for the next 29 years for each of us, I'd go with the lump sum.
Um, you gotta win first
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 12:14:28 AM
Um, you gotta win first

minor detail
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: afro on January 13, 2016, 12:20:13 AM
Im not sure what I enjoy the most out out of this lottery stupidity:
1- people who make the "the chances of winning are 1 in 2281133898, thats like if an elephant steps on the moon...." comments.
2- people who are trying to figure out how to keep the new car scent in the Maserati there gonna buy with the $ they win.
3- winning the $.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: etech0 on January 13, 2016, 12:21:24 AM
Im not sure what I enjoy the most out out of this lottery stupidity:
1- people who make the "the chances of winning are 1 in 2281133898, thats like if an elephant steps on the moon...." comments.
2- people who are trying to figure out how to keep the new car scent in the Maserati there gonna buy with the $ they win.
3- winning the $.
TALUK :)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: afro on January 13, 2016, 12:23:09 AM
let u know about the car smell?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: 12HRS on January 13, 2016, 12:38:04 AM
keep the new car scent? just buy a new car every time it starts fading
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: afro on January 13, 2016, 12:39:43 AM
It's gonna take time to get used to having by that kinda money. If I keep switching out my Maserati my neighbors will know I won and it won't be anonymous... The key is too lay low, maybe 1-2 new cars a month.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: regular on January 13, 2016, 01:32:39 AM
heard on the radio today if your pooling with more than 10 or 20 ppl (forgot which one) you should create a corporation for the money to be paid to. any reason for that or is it just simpler to split that way?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Jkhein on January 13, 2016, 01:36:15 AM
heard on the radio today if your pooling with more than 10 or 20 ppl (forgot which one) you should create a corporation for the money to be paid to. any reason for that or is it just simpler to split that way?
Thats a good point, which accountant should we use?  :)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: talmid chuchem on January 13, 2016, 04:44:49 AM
I'm on Tapatalk, can someone add me
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Boruch999 on January 13, 2016, 04:49:17 AM
I'm on Tapatalk, can someone add me
done
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: talmid chuchem on January 13, 2016, 04:51:01 AM
done
Thanks
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: 12HRS on January 13, 2016, 08:05:56 AM
im in if someone else doesn't pay up
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Hidden on January 13, 2016, 08:06:19 AM
Wanna open a new one?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Knak Yankel on January 13, 2016, 08:20:10 AM
i'm in if some1 backs out
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: elit on January 13, 2016, 09:06:53 AM
This while thing makes no sense. There is no way a pool of 40 ppl stays anonymous
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 09:22:21 AM
+1.5B
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 09:26:01 AM
This while thing makes no sense. There is no way a pool of 40 ppl stays anonymous

MD anonymity would be just a bonus.. The main pint is to have a pool.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: TimT on January 13, 2016, 09:27:55 AM
If anybody's still not sure if they should pull the trigger, tonight's the drawing.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Knak Yankel on January 13, 2016, 09:33:44 AM
+1.5B

that's a number!
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: grodnoking on January 13, 2016, 09:42:11 AM
What happens if one ticket wins 1M? Do you still need to pay maximum IRS deduction even thou its fourty people?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: teetle on January 13, 2016, 09:43:05 AM
To the holy mr naftali could you tell us any guarantee that youl still after you win the lottery?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 09:46:33 AM
To the holy mr naftali could you tell us any guarantee that youl still after you win the lottery?

still what?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 09:54:20 AM
What happens if one ticket wins 1M? Do you still need to pay maximum IRS deduction even thou its fourty people?
You pay tax on any winnings over $600.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Knak Yankel on January 13, 2016, 10:07:52 AM
interesting?

i see a new list is building up.

I'm ready to buy in NJ which is an anonymous state as well. For all those that want to join please add your username. Entry is $2

THE DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY AT 12pm EST. ALL PARTICIPANTS MUST HAVE PAID THEIR $2 BY THE DEADLINE.


Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 10:13:03 AM
I'm ready to buy in NJ which is an anonymous state as well.
-1

And entry should be 10 cents for 20 people. JMHO.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 10:15:18 AM
-1

And entry should be 10 cents for 20 people. JMHO.

I will make one for you $0.10 buy in for first 20 people.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 10:18:20 AM
I will make one for you $0.10 buy in for first 20 people.
Doesn't need to be for me.

Just a waste of yiddishe gelt. Buying 1 ticket or 40 tickets doesn't change the odds from being statistically insignificant and it shows a lack of emunah that would be most useful in a case like this.
/.02
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 10:28:24 AM
Doesn't need to be for me.

Just a waste of yiddishe gelt. Buying 1 ticket or 40 tickets doesn't change the odds from being statistically insignificant and it shows a lack of emunah that would be most useful in a case like this.
/.02

it does however significantly increase the odds of winning a smaller prize.

Also These type of Lotteries are meant for entertainment.  in which case this has been very entertaining and for $2 thats a steal.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 10:30:53 AM
it does however significantly increase the odds of winning a smaller prize.

Also These type of Lotteries are meant for entertainment.  in which case this has been very entertaining and for $2 thats a steal.
So now you're more likely to win back a $4 prize for which you'll give back 10 cents to everyone?

You would get the same dreams of grandeur with 1 ticket as with 40 tickets, except you saved $78 from being thrown away.
I'd argue your "odds" would be better if you donated the $78 difference to a worthy charity rather than state coffers and used $2 for a single ticket.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Knak Yankel on January 13, 2016, 10:31:41 AM
Doesn't need to be for me.

Just a waste of yiddishe gelt. Buying 1 ticket or 40 tickets doesn't change the odds from being statistically insignificant and it shows a lack of emunah that would be most useful in a case like this.
/.02

Dan you are not right. look what the the מחנה חיים writes in ח״ב יח "עדה קטנה שהיה להם גורל בשותפות והצליח ד׳ שעלה גורלם וקיבלו כמה אלפים"
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 10:36:08 AM
So now you're more likely to win back a $4 prize for which you'll give back 10 cents to everyone?

You would get the same dreams of grandeur with 1 ticket as with 40 tickets, except you saved $78 from being thrown away.
I'd argue your "odds" would be better if you donated the $78 difference to a worthy charity rather than state coffers and used $2 for a single ticket.

I was thinking more like $100 prize  but we (people in the pool lol) will only know later tonight...
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 10:37:47 AM
I was thinking more like $100 prize  but we (people in the pool lol) will only know later tonight...
You do realize that a $100 prize is 1 in 15K, yes?
And that even if you win that that's a whopping $2.50 refund per person...
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dawie on January 13, 2016, 10:43:24 AM
https://www.facebook.com/Nitroautoleasing/posts/1178484458831717:0
Free powerball entry if you live in NY or NJ
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 10:48:52 AM
You do realize that a $100 prize is 1 in 15K, yes?
And that even if you win that that's a whopping $2.50 refund per person...

well 1 in 375  with 40 plays.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 11:01:58 AM
well 1 in 375  with 40 plays.
So it's logical to spend an extra $78 to have a 1 in 375 chance of making a $22 profit?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 11:10:54 AM
So it's logical to spend an extra $78 to have a 1 in 375 chance of making a $22 profit?

definitely much better case for some good entertainment.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: jackofall on January 13, 2016, 11:19:36 AM
So it's logical
There is nothing logical about the lottery. It's about the dreams.......
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 11:20:48 AM
Do you guys really not get it or are you messing with me?

$2 buys the same dream that $80 buys. Nobody is playing PB to win the $4 or the $100 prize.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 11:21:43 AM
There is nothing logical about the lottery. It's about the dreams.......

Like i said its mainly about the entertainment.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Redbull3 on January 13, 2016, 11:25:57 AM
They say not to pick your own tickets like using birthdays and anneversaries and ect. Because  those numbers add up to 1-32 and the numbers range 1-69 and even though u might use numbers 32-69 by your year you were born, you would only use a big number once or twice saying its annerversary  or birthday .so the other 3 numbers your leaving out the chance for it to be 1-69 .
+1. Higher numbers have less of a chance of splitting pots because of human sentimentality.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: beeweegee on January 13, 2016, 11:38:53 AM
Do you guys really not get it or are you messing with me?

$2 buys the same dream that $80 buys. Nobody is playing PB to win the $4 or the $100 prize.
Both odds and dreams aside, part of the fun for me is checking my numbers against the winning ones. I'd rather be in a pool so I have many numbers to check, not just one set. But yes, the dreams and odds remain the same.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 12:04:57 PM
Both odds and dreams aside, part of the fun for me is checking my numbers against the winning ones. I'd rather be in a pool so I have many numbers to check, not just one set. But yes, the dreams and odds remain the same.
All the fun without the cost:
http://graphics.latimes.com/powerball-simulator/
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: luckyluck on January 13, 2016, 12:13:28 PM
Dan you are not right. look what the the מחנה חיים writes in ח״ב יח "עדה קטנה שהיה להם גורל בשותפות והצליח ד׳ שעלה גורלם וקיבלו כמה אלפים"

What's your point? where do you see that one should buy more than one ticket?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 12:16:24 PM
If we win, will we have an ORD shallots DO?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: beeweegee on January 13, 2016, 12:29:34 PM
All the fun without the cost:
http://graphics.latimes.com/powerball-simulator/
Kinda loses the fun factor when there's nothing on the line. Yes, I get that the odds of winning are statistically zero, but the potential for fulfilling the dream x40 is what's fun.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 12:36:48 PM
Amazing how feeble the human mind is. This thread is eye-opening for me and not much does that to me anymore.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 13, 2016, 12:38:25 PM
What time is the deadline to purchase a ticket in NJ? Im thinking of pulling the trigger
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 12:40:52 PM
Amazing how feeble the human mind is. This thread is eye-opening for me and not much does that to me anymore.

When I win a billion and half, I'll be able to pay you to retract that.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 13, 2016, 12:43:45 PM
Amazing how feeble the human mind is. This thread is eye-opening for me and not much does that to me anymore.
In other words, you just called everybody on this thread and everyone that bought a ticket stupid.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: jackofall on January 13, 2016, 12:44:01 PM
Amazing how feeble the human mind is. This thread is eye-opening for me and not much does that to me anymore.
What Americans spend their entertainment dollars on.
(http://)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
When I win a billion and half, I'll be able to pay you to retract that.
Fair enough.

In other words, you just called everybody on this thread and everyone that bought a ticket stupid.
Nope, just the ones who continue to disagree with me by bringing the most ridiculous of arguments.
And not stupid, just illogical and argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.

/.02
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: TimT on January 13, 2016, 12:46:27 PM
What time is the deadline to purchase a ticket in NJ? Im thinking of pulling the trigger
What's your rush ? If there's no winner you'll have saved another $2. :)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 13, 2016, 12:54:46 PM
What's your rush ? If there's no winner you'll have saved another $2. :)
How much will it be if no winner?
Maybe worth it to wait it out.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 01:02:38 PM
How much will it be if no winner?
Maybe worth it to wait it out.

Exactly. You win more if you wait.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: EJB on January 13, 2016, 01:15:42 PM
Doesn't need to be for me.

Just a waste of yiddishe gelt. Buying 1 ticket or 40 tickets doesn't change the odds from being statistically insignificant and it shows a lack of emunah that would be most useful in a case like this.
/.02

I take it you're buying 1 ticket?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: EJB on January 13, 2016, 01:16:58 PM
How much will it be if no winner?
Maybe worth it to wait it out.

In my estimation, the chances of that happening are 10-15%
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yos9694 on January 13, 2016, 01:19:47 PM
I bought 2 tickets this time, with the same numbers on both tickets. My cheshbon is that there are so many people playing this time around that there will definitely be more than 1 winner (likely to be 3). When I win, I want to have 2 shares of the jackpot and double my take.

I really wanted to keep this quiet, but decided to share my strategy to see how much hana'ah Dan gets from it.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 01:23:47 PM
I bought 2 tickets this time, with the same numbers on both tickets. My cheshbon is that there are so many people playing this time around that there will definitely be more than 1 winner (likely to be 3). When I win, I want to have 2 shares of the jackpot and double my take.

I really wanted to keep this quiet, but decided to share my strategy to see how much hana'ah Dan gets from it.

Probably negative hann'ah..  Another 2 yiddeshe dollars down the drain...  :'(
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 01:30:21 PM
In my estimation, the chances of that happening are 10-15%

So about the same as my chances of winning.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 13, 2016, 01:33:12 PM
With all the talk about hishtadlus. - Buying even one ticket is probably baal tashchis
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Hidden on January 13, 2016, 01:52:05 PM
Will join if a spot opens
I'm on tapatalk someone please add me to the wiki thanks
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Red on January 13, 2016, 01:59:02 PM
I bought 2 tickets this time, with the same numbers on both tickets. My cheshbon is that there are so many people playing this time around that there will definitely be more than 1 winner (likely to be 3). When I win, I want to have 2 shares of the jackpot and double my take.

I really wanted to keep this quiet, but decided to share my strategy to see how much hana'ah Dan gets from it.
Or if you win a lower prize you actually will walk away with double.  :P
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 02:01:55 PM
Can't wait to gloat it over all of you poking fun on this thread, when you could have won 1.5 billion if you hadn't been too lazy to buy a ticket.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: beeweegee on January 13, 2016, 02:14:14 PM
They would have saved a lot of yiddishe gelt if they would have just gotten one ticket for all the faculty to share.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: grodnoking on January 13, 2016, 02:18:13 PM
Will join if a spot opens
I'm on tapatalk someone please add me to the wiki thanks
Looks like everyone is paid already.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yos9694 on January 13, 2016, 02:18:45 PM
Or if you win a lower prize you actually will walk away with double.  :P

That I could have gotten for $1 less by buying powerplay. I wanted to double all my prizes though.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 02:41:25 PM
They would have saved a lot of yiddishe gelt if they would have just gotten one ticket for all the faculty to share.

If I was a parent, I'd be furious.  You mean I might not have a school to send my kids to tomorrow?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: jackofall on January 13, 2016, 02:42:45 PM
They would have saved a lot of yiddishe gelt if they would have just gotten one ticket for all the faculty to share.
Worst business decision ever.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Ergel on January 13, 2016, 02:43:57 PM
They would have saved a lot of yiddishe gelt if they would have just gotten one ticket for all the faculty to share.
Oy. They spent nearly $1000 on this?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: beeweegee on January 13, 2016, 02:45:53 PM
Oy. They spent nearly $1000 on this?
Looks like it.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: beeweegee on January 13, 2016, 02:46:10 PM
Worst business decision ever.
+1
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 02:52:25 PM
Insane. I'd be livid.
If $1,000 is burning a hole in your pocket then buy 1 ticket and raffle off the rest as a nice bonus for 1 staff member.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 02:53:25 PM
I guess they have too much money sitting around from all the weddings  LOL
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: username on January 13, 2016, 03:04:48 PM
They would have saved a lot of yiddishe gelt if they would have just gotten one ticket for all the faculty to share.
+1.5B


 Nice way of getting out of paying taxes on the winning. (non profits dont pay tax, but the rebbeim will still be taxed on their winnings.

Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yoohoo on January 13, 2016, 03:06:44 PM
How tiny are your chances at winning the Powerball jackpot? This tiny. - WSJ.com - graphics.wsj.com
http://graphics.wsj.com/lottery-odds/
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: lunatic on January 13, 2016, 03:07:31 PM
If I was a parent, I'd be furious.  You mean I might not have a school to send my kids to tomorrow?
I would be furious too,  What a waste of ממון הקדש
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: username on January 13, 2016, 03:08:32 PM
How tiny are your chances at winning the Powerball jackpot? This tiny. - WSJ.com - graphics.wsj.com
http://graphics.wsj.com/lottery-odds/
Reminds me of a certain DDF thread.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=38858.msg915068#msg915068
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 03:12:44 PM
Oy. They spent nearly $1000 on this?

I read the letter that they spent 2 dollars on one ticket to be shared.

Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: username on January 13, 2016, 03:15:21 PM
I read the letter that they spent 2 dollars on one ticket to be shared.


Yes, but look at the last line about tickets.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: jackofall on January 13, 2016, 03:15:50 PM
I read the letter that they spent 2 dollars on one ticket to be shared.
"TicketS" "numberS"
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Redbull3 on January 13, 2016, 03:27:04 PM
That's wild. Just curious does this also happen to be a struggling institution?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: voldemort on January 13, 2016, 03:30:59 PM
"TicketS" "numberS"
NumberS does not connote multiple tickets being that even one ticket has numberS on it. Now the "their" before the "numbers" and "tickets" as u pointed out do imply a seperate ticket for each one.

Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yuneeq on January 13, 2016, 03:35:59 PM
They bought 477 tickets.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 03:38:00 PM
They bought 477 tickets.

Good to know they have spare cash lying around.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 13, 2016, 03:38:16 PM
They bought 477 tickets.
Yeah, mosdos wallowing in cash. What else is new


But in their defense, it is a nice business gesture to improve employee moral. Nu nu
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: 12HRS on January 13, 2016, 03:44:51 PM
I can just see the arguments next year when someone is fighting for a tuition reduction...
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yuneeq on January 13, 2016, 03:46:27 PM
I can just see the arguments next year when someone is fighting for a tuition reduction...

$5,000!?
Never mind, here's a few scratch offs I just purchased, you can keep those instead.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 03:49:12 PM
Yeah, mosdos wallowing in cash. What else is new


But in their defense, it is a nice business gesture to improve employee moral. Nu nu

They could have done that with one ticket total. 477*0=0
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 13, 2016, 03:58:41 PM
They could have done that with one ticket total. 477*0=0
Moral is worth more than zero
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 13, 2016, 04:04:54 PM
If I was a parent, I'd be furious.  You mean I might not have a school to send my kids to tomorrow?
The lump sum is less than $2m per staff member, before taxes and beforethe mosad's "cut". I hope no one's retiring off that.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 13, 2016, 04:09:16 PM
The lump sum is less than $2m per staff member, before taxes and beforethe mosad's "cut". I hope no one's retiring off that.
You can easily retire on that, if you have a competent financial manager.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 13, 2016, 04:10:18 PM
You can easily retire on that, if you have a competent financial manager.
I didn't mean retire at 65. I meant retire at whatever the average age is for the staff members there (surely a lot lower).
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 13, 2016, 04:11:25 PM
I didn't mean retire at 65. I meant retire at whatever the average age is for the staff members there (surely a lot lower).
I'm aware. If you invest that properly, you can live reasonably comfortably off that.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 13, 2016, 04:12:57 PM
I'm aware. If you invest that properly, you can live reasonably comfortably off that.
ALOL...

Because you were joking, right?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Redbull3 on January 13, 2016, 04:14:50 PM
IMO 65 year old empty nesters might be able to retire off that and live off interest but young jewish families with huge expenses not so much.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 13, 2016, 04:15:50 PM
ALOL...

Because you were joking, right?
Truth is, i was thinking of $2M, not whatever number you end up with. However, i do think you can live off that. 8% a year on $1.5M is $120k gross.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 13, 2016, 04:17:13 PM
Truth is, i was thinking of $2M, not whatever number you end up with. However, i do think you can live off that. 8% a year on $1.5M is $120k gross.
I don't know where to start. Just promise me you'll never try this yourself.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on January 13, 2016, 04:19:18 PM
I don't know where to start. Just promise me you'll never try this yourself.
Making 8% on a reasonably safely diversified portfolio, or living off the earnings of that?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 04:23:58 PM
Truth is, i was thinking of $2M, not whatever number you end up with. However, i do think you can live off that. 8% a year on $1.5M is $120k gross.

There is no safe investment today yielding 8%.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yuneeq on January 13, 2016, 04:29:07 PM
Just curious, how did you quote someone from the future?


I didn't mean retire at 65. I meant retire at whatever the average age is for the staff members there (surely a lot lower).

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=59828.msg1383011#msg1383011

ETA: Both posters quoting each other in a weird circular way.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Redbull3 on January 13, 2016, 04:31:18 PM
Just curious, how did you quote someone from the future?


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=59828.msg1383011#msg1383011
HA! How did that happen?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 13, 2016, 04:35:02 PM
Making 8% on a reasonably safely diversified portfolio, or living off the earnings of that?
There is no safe investment today yielding 8%.
+1. 8% CAGR may be a reasonable assumption over a 30 year investment horizon, where the money is untouched. But if you're living off your earnings, you need to be in stable investments.

On top of that, the $2m cash payment I mentioned becomes just over $1m after federal and NJ state tax. Even if you got your 8% on that $1m - which we've established is unreasonable - that's $80k per year. But you'd also be paying ~30% of that $80k each year in federal and NJ state capital gains taxes, because that $80k is pure gains. So now we're talking about living on $56k after tax a year, even for a 40 year old who hasn't incurred most of the big expenses of child rearing?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 13, 2016, 04:36:36 PM
Just curious, how did you quote someone from the future?


http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=59828.msg1383011#msg1383011

ETA: Both posters quoting each other in a weird circular way.
Fixed. It was something to do with the fact that I has started to modify my post, then noticed his post, and thought I was replying fresh to that while still in edit mode.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 04:53:50 PM
anyone buying with lakewood cheder's numbers to piggyback on their zchus harabim?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: jackofall on January 13, 2016, 04:57:06 PM
There is no safe investment today yielding 8%.
Correct, if you have $ 1,000 to invest. If however you have 2 mm there are plenty of save investments that return anywhere from 8 to 11%.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Redbull3 on January 13, 2016, 04:57:23 PM
anyone buying with lakewood cheder's numbers to piggyback on their zchus harabim?
If we all chip in and buy the same tix we could knock it down from 2mm to 1mm per person. That's just cruel.. love it.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 04:58:34 PM
Correct, if you have $ 1,000 to invest. If however you have 2 mm there are plenty of save investments that return anywhere from 8 to 11%.
100% safe? Namely?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: jackofall on January 13, 2016, 04:59:43 PM
100% safe? Namely?
Nothing is 100% safe. Referring to solid investments. Namely real estate.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Redbull3 on January 13, 2016, 04:59:55 PM
Correct, if you have $ 1,000 to invest. If however you have 2 mm there are plenty of save investments that return anywhere from 8 to 11%.
Please do tell b/c my simple, passive strategy has been getting killed lately.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 05:02:08 PM
Nothing is 100% safe.
-1

Referring to solid investments. Namely real estate.
Going to bet your whole nest egg on real estate?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: jackofall on January 13, 2016, 05:04:55 PM
-1
Going to bet your whole nest egg on real estate?
Half. 1 mm at 10% spread out between 3 deals. 500 Grand mutual funds. 500 Grand treasuries. Can almost live off of this
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Redbull3 on January 13, 2016, 05:06:03 PM
What does this safe investing in real estate look like? ETF? Check out IYR or VGSIX past 1 year charts. Ugly. Something else? What.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: jackofall on January 13, 2016, 05:18:05 PM
What does this safe investing in real estate look like? ETF? Check out IYR or VGSIX past 1 year charts. Ugly. Something else? What.
Directly into real estate. Companies that buy real estate. Hard to find trustworthy ones but there are some out there.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: grodnoking on January 13, 2016, 07:16:56 PM
There is no safe investment today yielding 8%.
What's the percentage that would be considered safe
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: talmid chuchem on January 13, 2016, 07:23:40 PM
+1.5B


 Nice way of getting out of paying taxes on the winning. (non profits dont pay tax, but the rebbeim will still be taxed on their winnings.
Nonprofits DO pay taxes on earning.
They don't pay taxes on their purchases as they are NON-PROFIT, but if they make profit they pay taxes Luke any other corp.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: lunatic on January 13, 2016, 07:26:49 PM
Nonprofits DO pay taxes on earning.
They don't pay taxes on their purchases as they are NON-PROFIT, but if they make profit they pay taxes Luke any other corp.
-1
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Super Speed on January 13, 2016, 07:29:22 PM
If I was a parent, I'd be furious.  You mean I might not have a school to send my kids to tomorrow?
Rabbaim aren't Rabbaim for the money, I bet you every single rebbi will show up tomorrow even if they won.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Super Speed on January 13, 2016, 07:31:56 PM
Also everyone is assuming they used the schools money when in fact that was not the case.
Not that I think you need to purchase more than one ticket but it wasn't the schools money.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: grodnoking on January 13, 2016, 07:33:06 PM
Nonprofits DO pay taxes on earning.
They don't pay taxes on their purchases as they are NON-PROFIT, but if they make profit they pay taxes Luke any other corp.
-1, if I would buy something off them, they would need to pay sales tax, but they dont pay income tax or the sort.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: talmid chuchem on January 13, 2016, 07:33:18 PM
-1
Um, u know what your saying? or saying what you know?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: lunatic on January 13, 2016, 07:38:00 PM
Um, u know what your saying? or saying what you know?
Yes. I do know.  I am an accountant and work for a non-profit.

Nonprofit organizations pay tax on unrelated business income.

Lottery winning may be classified as such,  but as a general rule,  the do not pay taxes
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: username on January 13, 2016, 08:01:46 PM
With a good accountant and lawyer, they shouldn't have to pay taxes.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 08:03:10 PM
Yes. I do know.  I am an accountant and work for a non-profit.

Nonprofit organizations pay tax on unrelated business income.

Lottery winning may be classified as such,  but as a general rule,  the do not pay taxes

I'm a tax lawyer and my clients include nonprofits.  I have no idea if lottery winnings are ubti. I've never had occasion to think about it.

I think the more interesting question is what happens if a non-us person wins. Is it fdap?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yos9694 on January 13, 2016, 08:37:32 PM
I'm a tax lawyer and my clients include nonprofits.  I have no idea if lottery winnings are ubti. I've never had occasion to think about it.

I think the more interesting question is what happens if a non-us person wins. Is it fdap?

It doesn't make one bit difference if you answer right or wrong. When you're rich they think you really know!
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: aj26 on January 13, 2016, 08:43:11 PM
There is no safe investment today yielding 8%.

I have us treasury bonds giving out 7.5%
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 08:56:35 PM
I have us treasury bonds giving out 7.5%

Tell us the rest of the story?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Ergel on January 13, 2016, 08:56:56 PM
Moral is worth more than zero
Much better off making a pizza party
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Ergel on January 13, 2016, 08:57:15 PM
I have us treasury bonds giving out 7.5%
Where do I buy?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: aygart on January 13, 2016, 09:04:42 PM
You can buy them on the market now but at a premium
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: aj26 on January 13, 2016, 09:14:46 PM
Bought in the 90's
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: aygart on January 13, 2016, 09:18:47 PM
Bought in the 90's
Doesn't help much for money to invest now. Also, considering that you can sell them now at a premium your current rate of return is less because future earnings have now become a portion of face value.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 09:20:11 PM
With 1.5B you should be able to afford a DeLorean.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 09:20:16 PM
Dan-the reason the pool needed to buy 40 tickets is obvious.  Because otherwise naphtali is just buying a ticket himself and wouldn't even bother collecting the 5 cents, and then why is he sharing it with us.

The reason to join a pool is that it's fun, and its an excuse to buy another ticket. I'm in 2 pools, and have one ticket myself.  I'd actually most prefer to win my family pool, since then we'd all be rich together.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 09:20:56 PM
Doesn't help much for money to invest now. Also, considering that you can sell them now at a premium your current rate of return is less because future earnings have now become a portion of face value.

plus you could realize that at capital gains rates, can't you?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: aj26 on January 13, 2016, 09:23:57 PM
My understanding is you can't sell series ee bonds
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 09:25:12 PM
Came with my Chinese food tonight:
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/13/9f90f588e80af0444aebda2c7aa0dce1.jpg)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 13, 2016, 09:32:21 PM
Came with my Chinese food tonight:
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/13/9f90f588e80af0444aebda2c7aa0dce1.jpg)

Ha that's great
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 13, 2016, 09:45:35 PM
Came with my Chinese food tonight:
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/13/9f90f588e80af0444aebda2c7aa0dce1.jpg)
That's nothing. I got the winning numbers in mine last night!
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 13, 2016, 09:53:52 PM
It's no joke:, happened in real life:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lottery#Fortune_cookie_payout
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: aygart on January 13, 2016, 10:06:16 PM
It's no joke:, happened in real life:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lottery#Fortune_cookie_payout
lol
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: elit on January 13, 2016, 10:08:53 PM
anyone buying with lakewood cheder's numbers to piggyback on their zchus harabim?
Alol
Came with my Chinese food tonight:
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/13/9f90f588e80af0444aebda2c7aa0dce1.jpg)
You bought a ticket? ?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 10:15:17 PM
You bought a ticket? ?
Don't read DDMS?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: grodnoking on January 13, 2016, 10:16:24 PM
With 1.5B you should be able to afford a DeLorean.
They are not expensive.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: elit on January 13, 2016, 10:17:58 PM
Don't read DDMS?
not unless the tweet interests me...  I never go there anymore unless tod find some info I need or you tweet something of interest which takes me straight to that post.... otherwise straight to ddf...
But I'll go read it now
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: elit on January 13, 2016, 10:27:22 PM
Don't read DDMS?
So u have come a long way from this
[quote name="Lou Bob" post=1375927 timestamp=1452141435]
Lottery=Tax on those who are mathematically challenged
[/quote]
.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 10:30:39 PM
So u have come a long way from this.
It was a joke. Applies more to those who buy more than 1 ticket ;)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: elit on January 13, 2016, 10:38:00 PM
It was a joke. Applies more to those who buy more than 1 ticket ;)
Hear ya. Thank you for not doing one of those like comment or like this and I'll give you money if I win. ..can't stand those
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: grodnoking on January 13, 2016, 10:59:36 PM
And here we go!
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Chapshnell on January 13, 2016, 11:01:44 PM
Powerball numbers:

8, 27, 34, 4, 19

Powerball: 10

Good luck!
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Brian93 on January 13, 2016, 11:03:36 PM
I hope no one won...
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: etech0 on January 13, 2016, 11:06:45 PM
I hope no one won...
I won the $2 that I didn't spend/waste on a ticket
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 11:07:32 PM
See, I wouldn't have won anyway.  Good thing I didn't waste money.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Venilla on January 13, 2016, 11:08:10 PM
I won the $2 that I didn't spend/waste on a ticket
😄+1
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: HowYaDoin on January 13, 2016, 11:09:38 PM
so what do I do again if I  dont want anybody to know that I won?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: jackofall on January 13, 2016, 11:11:24 PM
so what do I do again if I  dont want anybody to know that I won?
PM me
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: regular on January 13, 2016, 11:13:13 PM
so whats the tally for the pool? did we make our $ back
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2016, 11:14:42 PM
so whats the tally for the pool? did we make our $ back
LOL
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Yordai Dooma on January 13, 2016, 11:15:50 PM
so whats the tally for the pool? did we make our $ back
i think we won $20 if i calculated correctly. Sorry that i just made it public and not anonymous
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: joe1234 on January 13, 2016, 11:17:59 PM
i think we won $20 if i calculated correctly. Sorry that i just made it public and not anonymous
i think we should make a lotto for who should get the $20... ::) or 100 lottos of $.20.... :P
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Ephraimh on January 13, 2016, 11:19:13 PM


Or claim it on a day of a terrorist attack or something.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160114/d1c594316cb7019c09b8d3a46e6beba3.jpg)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: good sam on January 13, 2016, 11:19:33 PM
I won the $2 that I didn't spend/waste on a ticket

See, I wouldn't have won anyway.  Good thing I didn't waste money.
-1. You may have drawn the winning numbers.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Chapshnell on January 13, 2016, 11:19:50 PM
NEW YORK: BREAKING - Someone in California is lucky winner in tonight's record breaking Powerball Jackpot. Unclear yet if there are others.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 13, 2016, 11:22:16 PM
i think we won $20 if i calculated correctly. Sorry that i just made it public and not anonymous

we distributing or rolling?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 11:25:52 PM
So should I claim the 1.5 and paypal everyone their share?  or Chase QP??
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Yordai Dooma on January 13, 2016, 11:45:19 PM
we distributing or rolling?
We should use it to buy tickets for Saturday's measly 40 million
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 11:47:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYp5Ua8UEAAru7J.jpg)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: 12HRS on January 13, 2016, 11:50:20 PM
play responsibly written on the side...nothing about win responsibly. he's already a goner if he didn't take some time to set himself up before telling people
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: akivak on January 13, 2016, 11:50:39 PM
I heard that California doesn't have Lottery tax is that true anyone?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: 12HRS on January 13, 2016, 11:51:58 PM
I heard that California doesn't have Lottery tax is that true anyone?

no state tax i believe
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: akivak on January 13, 2016, 11:52:37 PM
Good for him
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 11:52:52 PM
cant get away from the feds though... 
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 11:56:54 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYp1FflUEAAcAx0.jpg)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: akivak on January 13, 2016, 11:57:44 PM
cant get away from the feds though...
How much % is that?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Naphtali on January 13, 2016, 11:59:27 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYpx2HDWMAAmUBZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 14, 2016, 12:18:02 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYp5Ua8UEAAru7J.jpg)

See now if they only would of bought one ticket they would have lost(their 3rd ticket won). Someone please explain to me......
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: grodnoking on January 14, 2016, 12:21:16 AM
How much % is that?
39.6%
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Super Speed on January 14, 2016, 12:24:58 AM
See now if they only would of bought one ticket they would have lost(their 3rd ticket won). Someone please explain to me......
If he only bought one than the first one would've been the winning numbers or he wouldve picked the 3rd set first...
Hashem is very smart, he has his ways
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: good sam on January 14, 2016, 12:25:51 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYp5Ua8UEAAru7J.jpg)
I got heart palpitations seeing the winning numbers on someone else's ticket. I can only imagine what he feels like!
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: CS1 on January 14, 2016, 12:25:57 AM
39.6%

and he bought it today!
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: googwallet on January 14, 2016, 12:46:04 AM
and he bought it today!
It's fake. On the Facebook post he put #Photoshop

https://www.facebook.com/CoronaConcepts/
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: CS1 on January 14, 2016, 01:10:23 AM
It's fake. On the Facebook post he put #Photoshop

https://www.facebook.com/CoronaConcepts/

i figured that it was a copy from the (register of the) store where it was purchased.
If someone stopped into a 7-11 on the road in the middle of a 6 hr trip, they may not even know the name of the city that they bought their ticket to look at the winning numbers...
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Brian93 on January 14, 2016, 01:14:24 AM
i figured that it was a copy from the (register of the) store where it was purchased.
If someone stopped into a 7-11 on the road in the middle of a 6 hr trip, they may not even know the name of the city that they bought their ticket to look at the winning numbers...
I think anyone who bought tickets is checking this time...
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 14, 2016, 09:22:21 AM
Walking around the office telling people I'm so relieved they didn't win and we can still work together and be friends.

I'm good at being friends.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Hidden on January 14, 2016, 10:37:25 AM
Today I lost $1.500.000.000
Poor me
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: CS1 on January 14, 2016, 10:40:37 AM
Today I lost $1.500.000.000
Poor me

some past winners have lost millions. I got the "10" Powerball, plus the number "4". So that wins $4. I paid the additional $1 power play for the ticket so the 'winnings' double to $8.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 14, 2016, 10:42:35 AM
Today I lost $1.500.000.000
Poor me

better than the guys who won.  They thought they were getting 1.5b, and will walk away with less than 200m after taxes. they lost 1.3b and it really feels like that for them.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dawie on January 14, 2016, 10:42:39 AM
Yes. I do know.  I am an accountant and work for a non-profit.

Nonprofit organizations pay tax on unrelated business income.

Lottery winning may be classified as such,  but as a general rule,  the do not pay taxes
Then you should know that UBIT doesn;t apply on things that they do infrequently among other exemptions
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: CS1 on January 14, 2016, 10:47:14 AM
better than the guys who won.  They thought they were getting 1.5b, and will walk away with less than 200m after taxes. they lost 1.3b and it really feels like that for them.

$200 mil is a great win. I'm pretty sure that they're happy, and laying low for a few days/weeks.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 14, 2016, 10:49:41 AM
$200 mil is a great win. I'm pretty sure that they're happy, and laying low for a few days/weeks.

I'm pretty sure they feel like they lost 1.3 billion.  and not laying low at all.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Palm5 on January 14, 2016, 04:46:46 PM
Supposedly a nurse employed by recognitz was the California winner
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: stbaum on January 14, 2016, 04:51:18 PM
Supposedly a nurse employed by recognitz was the California winner

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=59965.0
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: jackofall on January 14, 2016, 05:24:40 PM

Last night's winning #'s

08+27+34+04+19+10 = 102

אמונה= 102
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: 12HRS on January 14, 2016, 05:48:36 PM
Last night's winning #'s

08+27+34+04+19+10 = 102

אמונה= 102

and if you bought 48 tickets thats gedolah so it becomes emunah gedolah....
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Shmulie on January 15, 2016, 01:49:24 PM
So did the lottery pool win anything?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 15, 2016, 02:05:59 PM
So did the lottery pool win anything?

The whole thing.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2016, 02:08:38 PM
So did the lottery pool win anything?
They claimed they won the $1.5B, but then it turned out one of the poolmates worked for Rechnitz, news picked it up, but it turned out it was all a Henche prank, but Rechnitz is now flying all of the poolmates in EY F to MLE where they'll be renting out the entire W because he felt bad for them.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on January 15, 2016, 02:19:06 PM
They claimed they won the $1.5B, but then it turned out one of the poolmates worked for Rechnitz, news picked it up, but it turned out it was all a Henche prank, but Rechnitz is now flying all of the poolmates in EY F to MLE where they'll be renting out the entire W because he felt bad for them.

And giving them all shidduchim, as well as a new building for the Lakewood cheder.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2016, 02:19:49 PM
And giving them all shidduchim, as well as a new building for the Lakewood cheder.
And cars for the dates as well!
Hodu L'hashem ki tov!
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: lunatic on January 15, 2016, 02:27:44 PM
And cars for the dates as well!
Hodu L'hashem ki tov!
And henche doesn't realize that he/she is going to get hit up to pay for all this
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: 12HRS on January 15, 2016, 03:25:14 PM
And henche doesn't realize that he/she is going to get hit up to pay for all this

henche will just bill it back to his clients obviously
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: grodnoking on January 15, 2016, 03:36:26 PM
henche will just bill it back to his clients obviously
But rechnitz is henches client, so in essence rechnitz is still paying.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Shmulie on January 15, 2016, 03:40:26 PM
They claimed they won the $1.5B, but then it turned out one of the poolmates worked for Rechnitz, news picked it up, but it turned out it was all a Henche prank, but Rechnitz is now flying all of the poolmates in EY F to MLE where they'll be renting out the entire W because he felt bad for them.
Oh shoot i knew I should have joined the pool when I could  :'(
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: yelped on January 16, 2016, 08:18:48 PM
They claimed they won the $1.5B, but then it turned out one of the poolmates worked for Rechnitz, news picked it up, but it turned out it was all a Henche prank, but Rechnitz is now flying all of the poolmates in EY F to MLE where they'll be renting out the entire W because he felt bad for them.
Hey, why don't they ever tell me anything!?  :P
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: etech0 on January 16, 2016, 10:19:25 PM
Oh shoot i knew I should have joined the pool when I could  :'(
did you at least join this one? (http://www.onlysimchas.com/news/24450/win-1-5-billion-dollars-with-the-onlysimchas-team)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: joe1234 on January 16, 2016, 10:58:12 PM
whats the end with the $20?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: good sam on February 17, 2016, 06:47:57 PM
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: joe1234 on August 22, 2017, 08:44:54 PM
Anyone in for a pool for this one?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on August 22, 2017, 08:52:41 PM
Anyone in for a pool for this one?
I'd rather win myself. lol
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Yammer on August 23, 2017, 12:47:37 AM
Anyone in for a pool for this one?

I'd rather win myself. lol
+1
Never understood the pooling
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: David Smith on August 23, 2017, 01:12:43 AM
People find playing the lottery as a group more enjoyable and that it builds camaraderie. Hope is more tangible as a group exercise. It also technically increases multiples your chances of winning. (I'd venture to say that you're better off winning $10M than $200M anyways, although that is decidedly not the reason behind office pools.) Hey, you never know!
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: aygart on August 23, 2017, 08:00:47 AM


People find playing the lottery as a group more enjoyable and that it builds camaraderie.
Unless they win
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Yammer on August 23, 2017, 09:11:36 AM
Unless they win
Lol

+1000
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: joe1234 on August 23, 2017, 09:32:05 AM
+1
Never understood the pooling
More people have more zechusim...
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: aygart on August 23, 2017, 04:38:02 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/psychological-reasons-why-we-buy-lottery-tickets-2016-1
http://www.businessinsider.com/winning-powerball-lottery-happiness-2017-8
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on August 23, 2017, 05:25:53 PM
why-we-buy-lottery-tickets
Tax on those who are bad at math.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: CS1 on August 23, 2017, 07:33:39 PM
They are not anonymous: http://www.powerball.com/megamillions/mm_main.asp

When is the next drawing?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: TimT on August 23, 2017, 07:45:10 PM
They are not anonymous: http://www.powerball.com/megamillions/mm_main.asp

When is the next drawing?
Tonight
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: CS1 on August 23, 2017, 10:46:01 PM
Tonight

Thank you -- in 14 minutes -- I just found the information: http://www.powerball.com/powerball/pb_prizes.asp
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Ephraimh on August 24, 2017, 01:15:45 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/aff5b5c512e8cb08a2ef0c0d810f2227.png)
Wow.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on August 24, 2017, 01:18:05 AM
Must be henche.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: CS1 on August 24, 2017, 08:05:57 AM
a single ticket. Possibly part of a group of tickets and buyers. (If they can find it....)  8) Maybe we'll find out in 6 months.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: aygart on August 24, 2017, 09:39:58 AM
(https://t.gyazo.com/teams/lowerwatt/64689b8477b973957d75d6b4292554aa.png)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: TimT on August 24, 2017, 10:33:06 AM
Hopefully the winner didn't throw his ticket away thanks to a stupid mistake by the Massachusetts State Lottery.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Yammer on August 24, 2017, 10:37:12 AM
Hopefully the winner didn't throw his ticket away thanks to a stupid mistake by the Massachusetts State Lottery.
I wonder what happens if you have a pic but not the actual ticket
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on August 24, 2017, 10:48:38 AM
I wonder what happens if you have a pic but not the actual ticket
You make some lawyer rich.  :)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: churnbabychurn on August 24, 2017, 10:51:35 AM
I wonder what happens if you have a pic but not the actual ticket
You lose.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Yammer on August 24, 2017, 10:52:07 AM
You make some lawyer rich.  :)

You lose.
Lol
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: TimT on August 24, 2017, 01:37:59 PM
Must be henche.
Henche, what long hair you have.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSNews/status/900772296427806720/video/1
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: CS1 on August 24, 2017, 07:51:47 PM
Henche, what long hair you have.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSNews/status/900772296427806720/video/1

I'm shocked that it's one ticket and one person. And even more shocked that she came out the next day! Would be smart to hire an advisor, etc...
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: joe1234 on August 26, 2017, 10:41:36 PM
I wonder what happens if you have a pic but not the actual ticket
TARB  :P
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: grodnoking on October 17, 2018, 05:18:39 AM
BUMP
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: jj1000 on October 17, 2018, 08:16:34 AM
I bet it breaks a billion before the drawing.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: mmgfarb on October 17, 2018, 08:54:38 AM
I bet it breaks a billion before the drawing.
What's it at now?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 17, 2018, 08:57:47 AM
What's it at now?
868
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: TimT on October 17, 2018, 09:00:51 AM
Chances of winning are 1 in 302.6 million. We can do this, people
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 17, 2018, 09:02:32 AM
Chances of winning are 1 in 302.6 million. We can do this, people
So you are going to buy all combinations?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: TimT on October 17, 2018, 09:09:51 AM
So you are going to buy all combinations?
How long would that take ? :)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 17, 2018, 09:11:49 AM
How long would that take ? :)
Don't know but that would raise the expected winners to four. Is it still worth it?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: mmgfarb on October 17, 2018, 09:13:07 AM
Don't know but that would raise the expected winners to four. Is it still worth it?
It's been tried before.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: davidrotts63 on October 17, 2018, 09:17:58 AM
Don't know but that would raise the expected winners to four. Is it still worth it?
Would raise the winnings value too, no?
5 winners and you're screwed.
It's been tried before.
And....?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: mmgfarb on October 17, 2018, 09:19:50 AM
And....?
IIRC, they didn't actually get every single ticket, it's really hard to do in a week. They did end up winning but I don't remember how many winners there were and how much they made. GIYF, I'm sure you can find the story.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 17, 2018, 09:22:20 AM
Would raise the winnings value too, no?
5 winners and you're screwed.
Calling @EJB
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: grodnoking on October 17, 2018, 09:42:42 AM
IIRC, they didn't actually get every single ticket, it's really hard to do in a week. They did end up winning but I don't remember how many winners there were and how much they made. GIYF, I'm sure you can find the story.
The ZMAN.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: mmgfarb on October 17, 2018, 09:43:18 AM
The ZMAN.
You think I read that garbage?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on October 17, 2018, 09:44:23 AM
There was a discussion on DDF.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: aygart on October 17, 2018, 09:44:35 AM
You think I read that garbage?
So JS is your sole source of garbage?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: mmgfarb on October 17, 2018, 09:45:20 AM
So JS is your sole source of garbage?
Yep, I can't handle much more than this or I'll start spilling over.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: zh cohen on October 17, 2018, 10:57:02 AM
It's been tried before.

This?

http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/lotto-winners/
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: EJB on October 17, 2018, 11:25:51 AM
MIT did something similar in MA and made $6m or so (no longer possible) Itís practically impossible to do for the big lotteries.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 17, 2018, 11:26:49 AM
MIT did something similar in MA and made $6m or so (no longer possible) Itís practically impossible to do for the big lotteries.
Not what the ROI be with 4 excepted winners?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: EJB on October 17, 2018, 01:14:30 PM
Not what the ROI be with 4 excepted winners?

I'm not sure what the question is, but the ROI is practically almost always negative with the big lotteries.

1. Earnings will be taxed at an effective rate of 30-40%
2. "Pot" isn't the present value of the winnings (i.e. lump sum). That is ~40% less
3. Probability of multiple winners can be assumed to follow a binomial distribution that increases significantly as the number of tickets increases. Assuming a winner and 100m tickets sold, the expected number of winners is 1.17. 200m tickets sold - that increases to 1.37. 400m tickets sold, that increases to 1.8. For reference, the $1.58m powerball sold 635m tickets. The $948 million previous drawing sold 440m tickets.

All that considered, the ROI of a $2 ticket with a $1b pot, 200m sold tickets, 35% taxes, and 40% lump sum reduction is around -35%. You need to ignore something significant (such as taxes or lump sum reduction) for that to be positive.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 17, 2018, 01:17:52 PM
I'm not sure what the question is,
With what I wrote I am not sure either.  :)
You answered it anyway.
All that considered, the ROI of a $2 ticket with a $1b pot, 200m sold tickets, 35% taxes, and 40% lump sum reduction is around -35%. You need to ignore something significant (such as taxes or lump sum reduction) for that to be positive.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on October 17, 2018, 01:20:23 PM
Wiki updated
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 17, 2018, 01:28:01 PM
Wiki updated
+1
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: avromie7 on October 17, 2018, 01:43:41 PM
I'm not sure what the question is, but the ROI is practically almost always negative with the big lotteries.

1. Earnings will be taxed at an effective rate of 30-40%
2. "Pot" isn't the present value of the winnings (i.e. lump sum). That is ~40% less
3. Probability of multiple winners can be assumed to follow a binomial distribution that increases significantly as the number of tickets increases. Assuming a winner and 100m tickets sold, the expected number of winners is 1.17. 200m tickets sold - that increases to 1.37. 400m tickets sold, that increases to 1.8. For reference, the $1.58m powerball sold 635m tickets. The $948 million previous drawing sold 440m tickets.

All that considered, the ROI of a $2 ticket with a $1b pot, 200m sold tickets, 35% taxes, and 40% lump sum reduction is around -35%. You need to ignore something significant (such as taxes or lump sum reduction) for that to be positive.
CMIIW, but I would think there must be a way to not pay taxes on the cost of all the tickets as a business expense
Title: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: EJB on October 17, 2018, 01:44:45 PM
CMIIW, but I would think there must be a way to not pay taxes on the cost of all the tickets as a business expense
Not a business expense but you can net gambling losses making the ROI slightly better if you can buy all the numbers. But that would also increase the risk of multiples. And itís practically impossible
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: gingyguy on October 17, 2018, 02:13:02 PM
IIRC, they didn't actually get every single ticket, it's really hard to do in a week. They did end up winning but I don't remember how many winners there were and how much they made. GIYF, I'm sure you can find the story.
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13937.msg1901843#msg1901843
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: justaregularguy on October 17, 2018, 03:04:48 PM
how many different combinations of numbers are there?

its 6 numbers?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 17, 2018, 03:18:06 PM
how many different combinations of numbers are there?

its 6 numbers?
The Mega Millions odds are 1 in 302.6 million
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: justaregularguy on October 17, 2018, 03:21:24 PM
The Mega Millions odds are 1 in 302.6 million
do we have 302 million DDFers here?

lets go!
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 17, 2018, 03:40:35 PM
do we have 302 million DDFers here?

lets go!
As people or user names?  :)
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: davidrotts63 on October 17, 2018, 03:51:09 PM
As people or user names?  :)
Get offline!you have your work cut out for you
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 17, 2018, 04:22:26 PM
Get offline!you have your work cut out for you
I have never been this stressed in my life. Doing 20 things at once and have not had anytime for one PC post.  >:(
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Yammer on October 17, 2018, 04:46:13 PM
As people or user names?  :)
It's the 20%-80% rule
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 17, 2018, 04:49:31 PM
It's the 20%-80% rule
Can we change it to 10%-90% so I am not in violation?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Yammer on October 17, 2018, 05:56:27 PM
Can we change it to 10%-90% so I am not in violation?
Sorry...not a Mod yet...
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2018, 02:06:32 PM
They would have saved a lot of yiddishe gelt if they would have just gotten one ticket for all the faculty to share.
So are they buying again?
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: mordechain on October 18, 2018, 02:47:28 PM
You have a year to claim. Wait 8-9  months, Legally change your name, and claim on a very busy news day.
Title: Re: Want to remain anonymous, when you win the powerball?
Post by: henche on October 18, 2018, 02:51:29 PM
do we have 302 million DDFers here?

lets go!

We'll each win 3 dollars  ;D