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Title: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2011, 12:29:53 PM
Effective 04/01 there's a new Park Hyatt...in the Maldives!!!

The Alila Villas Hadahaa is rebranding as a Park Hyatt!
The place looks gorgeous: http://www.alilahotels.com/hadahaa/gallery

Here's hoping that Hyatt doesn't make a higher points category (paid rates are $$$$$) and that suite upgrades work for overwater bungalows! And that they'll get free kosher meals for diamonds!

So who's getting a Hyatt Visa (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Hyatt/) to go here :D
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: eliteflyer on March 21, 2011, 01:45:57 PM
Effective 04/01 there's a new Park Hyatt...in the Maldives!!!

The Alila Villas Hadahaa is rebranding as a Park Hyatt!
The place looks gorgeous: http://www.alilahotels.com/hadahaa/gallery

Here's hoping that Hyatt doesn't make a higher points category (paid rates are $$$$$) and that suite upgrades work for overwater bungalows! And that they'll get free kosher meals for diamonds!

So who's getting a Hyatt Visa (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Hyatt/) to go here :D


Just in time for the closing of PH Sydney for "rennovations"
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: mordys on March 21, 2011, 02:06:46 PM
looks like they charge close to $1000 for "transfers", I guess becuase they are 400km from MLE they have to get you there somehow.
Also, where is this info from?  Is it legit?
And which airlines fly there-on award tickets obviously!
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: aussiebochur on March 21, 2011, 02:07:47 PM
HyattConcierge on Twitter says "At this time we have not designated the hotel a point category."

If not Category 6 then what?

+1 on hoping they don't do what so many other chains have done...
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: aussiebochur on March 21, 2011, 02:14:00 PM
looks like they charge close to $1000 for "transfers", I guess becuase they are 400km from MLE they have to get you there somehow.
Also, where is this info from?  Is it legit?
And which airlines fly there-on award tickets obviously!
Austrian flies to MLE? 
I know BA does from LGW and SQ does from SIN.  Who else flies?
I think Austrian is seasonal.

That you can redeem miles on, Aeroflot, China Southern, Qatar, Malaysian.
Could be more.
If you are buying a ticket, there are a bunch of the little airlines.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: aussiebochur on March 21, 2011, 02:16:11 PM
Emirates and China Eastern also fly to MLE.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2011, 02:20:27 PM
looks like they charge close to $1000 for "transfers", I guess becuase they are 400km from MLE they have to get you there somehow.
Also, where is this info from?  Is it legit?
And which airlines fly there-on award tickets obviously!
Ouch, $931.50 for transfers for 2 adults!  I wonder if that will change under Hyatt?
Multiple sources have confirmed.

Star: Singapore flies SIN-MLE, Austrian flies VIE-MLE, Swiss flies ZRH-MLE.
OW: BA flies LGW-MLE.
ST: Aeroflot flies SVO-MLE.
Emirates flies DXB-MLE.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: aussiebochur on March 21, 2011, 02:26:57 PM
Shanghai (ST) flies from PVG.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2011, 02:30:00 PM
So the transfer fee covers a 1 hour plane ride from MLE and a 1 hour speed boat.

Still, if Hyatt only charges 22K points for this and if they accept credit card nights/FFNs it's still an amazing bargain.

The reviews on Trip Advisor are amazing: http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g298571-d1473123-Reviews-Alila_Villas_Hadahaa-Male.html

I'm just comparing it to Bora Bora.  The St. Regis there is 70K-140K SPG per night.  Plus you need a $500 flight from PPT-BOB as no airline flies that route with miles.  Plus there are $$ transfer fees to get from BOB to the hotel.  This should be a fraction of that.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: chuchem on March 21, 2011, 02:51:34 PM

As I am going to the maldives in 2 month and did alot of research here a few points. As its really far and expensive you will need to plan it in advance and you cant only go for 2 days. With most airlines its impossible to get miles seats.

Swiss does not fly to MLE, its Edelweiss Air codeshare Swiss. You cant book with miles
Austrian, impossible to get seats with miles
Singapore, is also impossible to get miles seats in advance
Ba, possible in low season. They onlyu fly 3 times a week and from Gatwick. As most international flights arrive in Heathrow, you will have to transfer with a bus and luggage to gatwick. They fly a plane without F
Emirates has decent avail. with their standart miles, so quite expensive. Its also almost impossible to get Business as a saver award

Every hotel charges for a transfer, depending on distance from MLE airport. The resort I am going to is a little closer, so a transfer is only 360 p.p. with a seaplane. No hotel does it for free as they pay the airline for the transport. So there is no way around it. If you pick a resort close to the airport, they will pick you up with a speedboat for less.

As running such a hotel on its own island costs alot of moeny, I dont think they will let you use a free night from a CC or charge 22000 points only. Even if they do, the cost of getting to the maldives and all other stuff you will do there is expensive.

In the maldives a brand name is not worth it, as there are much nicer resorts for less money
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2011, 03:04:18 PM
I dont think they will let you use a free night from a CC or charge 22000 points only.
Based on what?
Hyatt has other hotels that cost $1,000+ per night that all work with Hyatt Visa (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Hyatt/) nights or 22,000 points.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: chuchem on March 21, 2011, 03:48:20 PM
Maybe they will. The hotel has almost no rooms, so not to many will be available. As its expensive to get there ( 2 Flights ) I dont really think to many people will use it. As the hotel arranges the seaplane transfer, after getting the reservation it will be hard to book the room from Mister Brechers account and ask the hotel to arrange tickets for Yanki and Lea Bodner, they would say right away the booking is for Mister Brecher.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2011, 03:53:00 PM
50 total rooms, I wonder if this is the smallest Hyatt in the world?

Also you can use hyatt points to book for anyone and hyatt points are fully transferable as well.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: E on March 21, 2011, 06:03:54 PM
Lucky is predicting 33K a night with a minimum night requirement, 33K is the cost for a category 6 suite.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: aussiebochur on March 21, 2011, 06:08:21 PM
Lucky is predicting 33K a night with a minimum night requirement, 33K is the cost for a category 6 suite.
Still better then Starwood's ridiculous cheshbon of making certain properties their own category because its all suites and then doubling the required points because its a suite...
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: yare on March 22, 2011, 07:16:45 AM
the hilton in bora bora is a heck of a lot better deal than spg
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 22, 2011, 04:09:34 PM
PH Maldives DO anyone?

Gotta book those Emirates tickets before the CO/UA partnership ends!
Worth stopping off in DXB along the way?
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: E on March 22, 2011, 05:40:52 PM
PH Maldives DO anyone?

Gotta book those Emirates tickets before the CO/UA partnership ends!
Worth stopping off in DXB along the way?
  I'm in but we'd first have to make a thread discussing the pros/cons of bringing up children in the Maldives.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 22, 2011, 05:49:04 PM
I dont think they will let you use a free night from a CC
Quote from: Hyatt Diamond Offer
The Hyatt Card (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Hyatt/) was designed with the international traveler in mind. That means whether you're paying for a cab or purchasing a few souvenirs, you'll never be charged a foreign transaction fee.
In addition, we'll give you two nights in a suite at any Hyatt property anywhere in the world, after using your card the first time.

Don't see how they can wriggle out of this one.
Getting excited to use the 2 suite nights in an OWB at the PH Maldives!
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: aussiebochur on March 22, 2011, 05:53:52 PM
Availability on EK not so great...
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 22, 2011, 05:58:35 PM
Availability on EK not so great...
Availability in May from JFK or YYZ to DXB in F is great.  But I can't find anything from DXB to JFK, IAH, LAX, SFO, or YYZ returning in May.  There is J avaialbility to JFK on the return, but UA makes you pay the highest of all classes on EK tickets and there's no one-way awards.

DXB-MLE is a short flight and coach availability is plentiful.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: chuchem on March 22, 2011, 06:47:41 PM
United is really expensive on EK awards and with CO you need saver avail., that option is gone in a few days.
I booked using CO miles, from Dxb-Mle only in coach, if business opens up I can upgrade for free as I paid Business miles. EK almost never opens up Saver rewards in advance from DXB to MLE. I think a stop in DXB is worth it, I am doing it for 2 days. Staying at the grand hyatt with a suite cert. 

Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: chuchem on March 22, 2011, 06:48:03 PM
By they way DXB-MLE is 4 hours not that short
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: chuchem on March 22, 2011, 06:50:16 PM
Overwater villas cost more then the regular villas. I doubt they will give it as a free upgrade to Diamonds, even with suite cert. It will prob be a specialty suite.
SPG also does not upgrade Plats to OW villas in the W resort maldives
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 22, 2011, 07:13:30 PM
United is really expensive on EK awards and with CO you need saver avail., that option is gone in a few days.
I booked using CO miles, from Dxb-Mle only in coach, if business opens up I can upgrade for free as I paid Business miles. EK almost never opens up Saver rewards in advance from DXB to MLE. I think a stop in DXB is worth it, I am doing it for 2 days. Staying at the grand hyatt with a suite cert.
By they way DXB-MLE is 4 hours not that short

What are you doing in DXB?

4 hours is not that long IMHO.  Shorter than CLE-LAX that I've done dozens of times in whY.  I'm spoiled, but I can definitely handle 4 hours in coach just fine.

I was looking at 210K UA to go JFK/YYZ-DXB in EK F and 40K CO for DXB-MLE in EK Y.
But with only 1 leg in F it hardly seems worth spending 250k miles.  Plus I'd have to find my own way to YYZ or JFK.

The better option is of course to use 120K CO to go in EK J from CLE-YYZ-DXB-MLE.  But then you don't get EK F A380 suites with the shower on-board.

Either way I want to book something with CO as I have a year to change dates and/or redeposit for free.

Hmm...
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 22, 2011, 07:14:35 PM
Overwater villas cost more then the regular villas. I doubt they will give it as a free upgrade to Diamonds, even with suite cert. It will prob be a specialty suite.
SPG also does not upgrade Plats to OW villas in the W resort maldives
SPG has nothing that competes with Park Hyatt.  I would be shocked if I couldn't pull off an OWB with a suite night or cert.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 23, 2011, 09:22:57 PM
Confirmed:
Quote from: Gold Passport Concierge
We are excited to announce the Park Hyatt Maldives and their arrival to the Hyatt family on April 1, 2011!
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: aussiebochur on March 23, 2011, 09:37:18 PM
Any news on points required?
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 23, 2011, 09:48:55 PM
Any news on points required?
I'll wager it will be a regular category 6.
The real question is if they'll accept suite certs.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 23, 2011, 10:00:31 PM
Any news on points required?
Quote from: Gold Passport Concierge
There will be more information to come on this new hotel.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 24, 2011, 12:55:23 PM
2 days left to book EK tickets with CO miles.

After this getting to MLE will definitely be trickier.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: aussiebochur on March 24, 2011, 02:30:08 PM
If as you said you don't mind flying in coach on a short flight then just book an F award (e.g. CX, TG) to CMB then take a short flight over. You can even redeem EK miles for that short leg if you so wish.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 24, 2011, 02:50:01 PM
If as you said you don't mind flying in coach on a short flight then just book an F award (e.g. CX, TG) to CMB then take a short flight over. You can even redeem EK miles for that short leg if you so wish.
Hmm...interesting.
I was thinking of booking 2 CO tickets for EK J that I can change for up to a year or cancel for free.

On AA/CX it would be 110K in J or 135K in F for CLE-LGA-YYZ-HKG-SIN-CMB.  Still need to book CMB-MLE separate, looks like it's ~$250 for a ticket.
On CO/EK it would 120K in J for CLE-YYZ-DXB-MLE.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: chuchem on March 24, 2011, 04:07:34 PM
You will not find 2 seats DXB-MLE now already, they are very hard to get. They only open a few days in advance
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: chuchem on March 24, 2011, 04:07:47 PM
I mean in business
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 24, 2011, 04:10:29 PM
You will not find 2 seats DXB-MLE now already, they are very hard to get. They only open a few days in advance
I searched for May and found pretty good availability actually.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: aussiebochur on March 24, 2011, 04:13:21 PM
I searched for May and found pretty good availability actually.
R/T?
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: chuchem on March 24, 2011, 04:16:19 PM
Business class ek saver dxb-mle?
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 24, 2011, 04:28:00 PM
Business class ek saver dxb-mle?
Just did a random search of 05/05-05/15 for dxb-mle.  All days but one had at least 2 saver J seats.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: yare on March 24, 2011, 04:52:23 PM
If as you said you don't mind flying in coach on a short flight then just book an F award (e.g. CX, TG) to CMB then take a short flight over. You can even redeem EK miles for that short leg if you so wish.
come up with that yourself?
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: aussiebochur on March 24, 2011, 05:03:26 PM
come up with that yourself?
It's already been discussed multiple times on the forums, check out Chuchem's Dubai+Maldives thread...
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: chuchem on March 24, 2011, 05:49:43 PM
I am sorry, but I think you are just blinded by the word free.
Lets see, the hyatt in the maldives will be on a decent island, their watervillas are nothing special. They are very hard to reach even by maldivien standarts. You have to take a internal flight and then another boat ride. Not fun after a long flight. Most resorts can be reached via seaplane within 30-45 minutes. That itself is a experience and cheaper

The hyatt free nights are also worth something. You can sell them for 200-250 Dollars. You can get a few other resorts, that are closer and as nice. especially low season

Lets say the last week in may

Hilton

overwater villa 300 Dollars a night B/B

Zitahli Resorts & Spa Kuda-Funafaru

overwater villa 380 Dollars a night B/B   (much nicer then Hyatt)

Medhufushi Island Resort

overwater villa 230 Dollars a night B/B

I can keep on going, I just dont think a chain is any better in the maldives. If you shlep around the world to get there, you might as well pick the best and nicest place and not think about a freebie, that you could sell anyway.

Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 24, 2011, 07:13:34 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree.

-The tripadvisor reviews for the PH look very good and it's ranked #2 for Male, Maldives.

-The stays that I have had at Park Hyatt (Paris, Zurich, Melbourne, and Sydney) have been above and beyond anything I've ever experienced at any other hotel.  The genuine service they provide diamond members is nothing short of stunning.  They go completely out of their way to make your stay amazing.  Free amazing kosher food speads, kosher wine/champagne, cholov yisroel chocolates, free rides to the airport in an audi quattro, free bike usage, etc, etc.
I would stay in a Park Hyatt over any hotel is that's an option.

-It may be remote, but there is a benefit in that.  You are on your own private island with just 50 rooms.  And the water is unspoiled and clear.

-The villas here are supposed to be made in a way that's more private than other locations.

And I would just rather use my 22K points and stay free and enjoy the perks of my top-tier status (free wifi, upgrades, etc).  I'll stay in a Hyatt or Starwood before other hotels due to my status and how they treat me as a VIP when I stay there instead of just some Joe Shmoe.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: YOSEF on March 24, 2011, 07:25:02 PM
I am sorry, but I think people are just blinded by the word free.
+1
I personally think that alot of people get blinded by "free" way too often.

Every time I look into using points, its all about a cost-benefit analysis: how many points, which are actually worth x amount etc, and it seems some people just throw them around like water, not realizing that they are actual currency.

That being said, if one wants to use money for a certain hotel room or flight, as long as they realize they are spending, guzunta heit.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: chuchem on March 24, 2011, 07:46:51 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree.

-The tripadvisor reviews for the PH look very good and it's ranked #2 for Male, Maldives.

ITS IN THE MALE SECTION, THATS WRONG, ITS REAL FAR FROM MALE

-The stays that I have had at Park Hyatt (Paris, Zurich, Melbourne, and Sydney) have been above and beyond anything I've ever experienced at any other hotel.  The genuine service they provide diamond members is nothing short of stunning.  They go completely out of their way to make your stay amazing.  Free amazing kosher food speads, kosher wine/champagne, cholov yisroel chocolates, free rides to the airport in an audi quattro, free bike usage, etc, etc.
I would stay in a Park Hyatt over any hotel is that's an option.

NO FREE RIDE IN THE MALDIVES, THEY GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF FREEBIES AND YOU ARE ATTACHED TO THEM. YOU WILL GET GOOD SERVICE ALL OVER THE MALDIVES. REALLY WORTH STAYING AT A WORSE RESORT, JUST TO GET A FEW FREEBIES AND THEM KISSING YOUR FEET AS A DIAMOND??

-It may be remote, but there is a benefit in that.  You are on your own private island with just 50 rooms.  And the water is unspoiled and clear.

ALL ISLAND HAVE THAT, SOME HAVE MORE VILLAS, SOME LESS. LOOKING AT THE PICTURES THE ISLAND AND VILLAS DO NOT LOOK SPECIAL AT ALL I SPEND ALOT OF TIME RESEARCHING THE MALDIVES

-The villas here are supposed to be made in a way that's more private than other locations.

DONT AGREE AT ALL

And I would just rather use my 22K points and stay free and enjoy the perks of my top-tier status (free wifi, upgrades, etc).  I'll stay in a Hyatt or Starwood before other hotels due to my status and how they treat me as a VIP when I stay there instead of just some Joe Shmoe.

ALL 5 STAR RESORTS WILL TREAT YOU NICELY, MOST HAVE FREE WIFI AND THE WATERVILLA IS THE BEST UPGRADE YOU MIGHT GET AT THE HYATT. THAT WATERVILLA IS NOT NEARLY AS NICE AT OTHER RESORTS. IT DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A JACUZZI OR POOL. YOU ARE BLINDED BY THE HYATT SIGN, OTHER THEN THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN IT A SECOND LOOK, WHEN PICKING A RESORT. DONT SELL YOUR SOUL TO A BRAND!
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: AsherO on March 24, 2011, 07:50:10 PM
ALL 5 STAR RESORTS WILL TREAT YOU NICELY, MOST HAVE FREE WIFI AND THE WATERVILLA IS THE BEST UPGRADE YOU MIGHT GET AT THE HYATT. THAT WATERVILLA IS NOT NEARLY AS NICE AT OTHER RESORTS. IT DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A JACUZZI OR POOL. YOU ARE BLINDED BY THE HYATT SIGN, OTHER THEN THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN IT A SECOND LOOK, WHEN PICKING A RESORT. DONT SELL YOUR SOUL TO A BRAND!

But why are you SCREAMING?
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: chuchem on March 24, 2011, 07:50:55 PM
Sorry didnt realize.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 24, 2011, 10:14:03 PM
Again we'll have to agree to disagree.
I now have 4 free nights in a suite from the Hyatt Visa (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Hyatt/).  If Hyatt will let them confirm into an OWB in the PH Maldives I don't see the reason to make a whole balagan just to avoid staying in a brand.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: E on March 24, 2011, 11:38:44 PM

-The stays that I have had at Park Hyatt (Paris, Zurich, Melbourne, and Sydney) have been above and beyond anything I've ever experienced at any other hotel.  The genuine service they provide diamond members is nothing short of stunning.  They go completely out of their way to make your stay amazing.  Free amazing kosher food speads, kosher wine/champagne, cholov yisroel chocolates, free rides to the airport in an audi quattro, free bike usage, etc, etc.
I would stay in a Park Hyatt over any hotel is that's an option.
Dan you bring up the Park Hyatt in Paris all the time, I'm still not sure what impressed you so much I've been to the PH in Paris, Aviera, Milan, Wahington DC, Buenos Aires and was never truly wowed.. ok maybe the the one in BA but paris although it was nice and the room was very expensive I wasn't wowed, the Le Grand in paris was much more impressive I thought. I wouldn't travel hours out of the way just for a PH especially when there are so many other nice hotels there. I don't even see it on the Conde Nast Gold list!!
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 25, 2011, 02:02:08 AM
Dan you bring up the Park Hyatt in Paris all the time, I'm still not sure what impressed you so much I've been to the PH in Paris, Aviera, Milan, Wahington DC, Buenos Aires and was never truly wowed.. ok maybe the the one in BA but paris although it was nice and the room was very expensive I wasn't wowed, the Le Grand in paris was much more impressive I thought. I wouldn't travel hours out of the way just for a PH especially when there are so many other nice hotels there. I don't even see it on the Conde Nast Gold list!!
PH Paris? What can I say.  We loved it as did many many others that I have sent there.  Most said it was the highlight of their trip.

From the top-notch service without the French attitude, to the intoxicating smell of the place, to the complementary $$$$$ bottle of kosher champagne, to the downright impressive breakfast spreads (breads, juices, pastries, jams, yogurts, fruits, varieties of cheeses, etc), to the seemingly always empty spa facilities, to the spacious room and bathroom, to the Blaise Mautin toiletries, to the departure gift of a bottle of the hotel's perfume, to the excellent location of the hotel right at the Opera transit hub and within walking distance of the Louvre, Tuilieries gardens, and Champs Elysses (and the excellent Chabad house there), etc, etc, etc.
I don't understand what's not to love about that hotel!
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 25, 2011, 02:05:47 AM
+1
I personally think that alot of people get blinded by "free" way too often.

Every time I look into using points, its all about a cost-benefit analysis: how many points, which are actually worth x amount etc, and it seems some people just throw them around like water, not realizing that they are actual currency.

That being said, if one wants to use money for a certain hotel room or flight, as long as they realize they are spending, guzunta heit.

Really now?  Here I thought you should always use points without looking at the value.

Miles are free.

Free?
Miles are a currency just like cash is a currency.  Perhaps not quite as liquid and well-defined, but plenty of other currencies have similar characteristics.  There's a simple cost/benefit analysis that must be done every time.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: chuchem on March 25, 2011, 03:25:58 AM
Yes, the park hyatt paris was very nice, but again you are getting blinded by the word "free" you are all excited about free parfum, free champagne, free breakfast, free internet. While its nice to have, this is not going to make my paris experience. I slept there and went sightseeing most of the day. It was nice to have a 5* place to sleep at night.
In the maldives you will spend 24 hours at the resort.

You are going to a medium resort, with medium overwater villas and medium island. As well as the shlep to get there. I dont think picking a hotel in the maldives should be made on the few freebies you might get. Sell the suite nights for 300+ dollars and pick a real nice resort. I will tell them to give u a free parfum to make you happy ;-)
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 25, 2011, 10:11:21 AM
Yes, the park hyatt paris was very nice, but again you are getting blinded by the word "free" you are all excited about free parfum, free champagne, free breakfast, free internet. While its nice to have, this is not going to make my paris experience. I slept there and went sightseeing most of the day. It was nice to have a 5* place to sleep at night.
In the maldives you will spend 24 hours at the resort.

You are going to a medium resort, with medium overwater villas and medium island. As well as the shlep to get there. I dont think picking a hotel in the maldives should be made on the few freebies you might get. Sell the suite nights for 300+ dollars and pick a real nice resort. I will tell them to give u a free parfum to make you happy ;-)
Where exactly are you seeing that the resort is subpar?
The pictures look phenomenal and most reviews are glowing.
Other bloggers have called it one of the top Maldivian resorts.
FT'ers that have stayed there are raving about the place.

There's a reason the place is able to charge over $1,000 a night and I don't believe its as "subpar" as you claim it is.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: chuchem on March 26, 2011, 07:25:32 PM
Where exactly are you seeing that the resort is subpar?
The pictures look phenomenal and most reviews are glowing.
Other bloggers have called it one of the top Maldivian resorts.
FT'ers that have stayed there are raving about the place.

There's a reason the place is able to charge over $1,000 a night and I don't believe its as "subpar" as you claim it is.

I just dont think this island is special at all.  On TR almost every 5 star resort has great feedback, as the maldives are so nice, almost nobody is unhappy. I looked at almost every 5 star hotel before booking, I checked out pictures of the villas. Its nice but nothing special.
I am just saying, if you shlep around the world to get to the maldives and spend alot of miles and money on it, dont get blinded by free and brands
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: YOSEF on March 26, 2011, 11:51:55 PM
Dan, if you look at my previous post, and the quote that I was referring to/quoted, I did change the word from "you", to "people"; you seem to take what I said as a personal assessment of you, and I never intended it as such.

I personally don't really do the whole hotel thing, so I can't really voice an opinion on this particular issue, but like I said, it seems a lot of people (yes, even on DDF) don't view points as a currency.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: myb821 on March 27, 2011, 11:20:38 AM
PH Paris? What can I say.  We loved it as did many many others that I have sent there.  Most said it was the highlight of their trip.

From the top-notch service without the French attitude, to the intoxicating smell of the place, to the complementary $$$$$ bottle of kosher champagne, to the downright impressive breakfast spreads (breads, juices, pastries, jams, yogurts, fruits, varieties of cheeses, etc), to the seemingly always empty spa facilities, to the spacious room and bathroom, to the Blaise Mautin toiletries, to the departure gift of a bottle of the hotel's perfume, to the excellent location of the hotel right at the Opera transit hub and within walking distance of the Louvre, Tuilieries gardens, and Champs Elysses (and the excellent Chabad house there), etc, etc, etc.
I don't understand what's not to love about that hotel!
dan do u only get those things by being a diamons member of hyatt or just because it is a ph
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 31, 2011, 12:16:24 PM
Confirmed: Regular Category 6 rates!!!
You can start making reservations for the hotel on 04/01/11.
22K points per night.
A great value for points usage or free Hyatt Visa nights! (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Hyatt/)

If only SPG would have such reasonable rates for their $1,000/night properties like in Bora Bora or the Maldives!

Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: chuchem on March 31, 2011, 02:27:35 PM
When I wanted to go in June regular rooms were going for 600 Dollars, so its a good way of redeeming points, but Sudney and Paris are even more expensive. Considering the high cost to get there, the high costs being there, I dont thinks its such a "mezie" Once again, even if you get a overwater villa as diamond, there are much better places out there.
But for someone that has plenty of points or the free nights and anyway wants to go, its a good way to get the maldives costs a little lower. Before your vacation even starts you will pay 1000 Dollars for transfer for 2 people. Everything else is also expensive, the costs of their "trips" are priced double as high as most resorts.
Another big minus: most resorts you will reach in 30 min with a seaplane transfer, this one you have to take a one hour internal maldives flight and then another 1,5 hour boatride. This will cost you more then half day off your vacation when coming and going
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on March 31, 2011, 05:15:44 PM
Now on hyatt.com:
http://maldives.hadahaa.park.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/

They will not accept diamond suite upgrade certs.  If this hotel won't upgrade diamonds to the water villa I can't see myself ever staying here...we'll just have to wait and see.

04/19:
Park Villa: $1,040+tax=$1,189
22K/$1,189=5.945 cents per point

Park Pool Villa: $1,240+
Park Water Villa: $1,390+
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: ceejay on March 31, 2011, 06:25:23 PM
Can you use 33k pts to get a suite?
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on April 01, 2011, 12:00:32 AM
50 total rooms, I wonder if this is the smallest Hyatt in the world?

Also you can use hyatt points to book for anyone and hyatt points are fully transferable as well.
Hotel fact sheet: http://maldives.hadahaa.park.hyatt.com/hyatt/images/hotels/mldph/factsheet.pdf

Room Breakdown:
16 Park Villas
20 Pool Villas
14 Water Villas
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: moe on April 01, 2011, 12:02:45 PM
+100
I will tell them to give u a free parfum to make you happy ;-)
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on April 01, 2011, 12:10:32 PM
+100
You agree with a statement taken out of context?
OK.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: moe on April 01, 2011, 12:11:31 PM
what?
You agree with a statement taken out of context?
OK.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2011, 12:54:57 AM
Definitely mixed reviews on TA, although that may apparently be coming from the large number of staff let go when Hyatt took over. Here's an awesome review though: http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g2104649-d1473123-r117590216-Park_Hyatt_Maldives_Hadahaa-Northern_Huvadhu_Atoll.html

Anybody thinking of using their free Hyatt nights to go here?
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: aussiebochur on September 11, 2011, 01:15:23 AM
Definitely mixed reviews on TA, although that may apparently be coming from the large number of staff let go when Hyatt took over. Here's an awesome review though: http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g2104649-d1473123-r117590216-Park_Hyatt_Maldives_Hadahaa-Northern_Huvadhu_Atoll.html

Anybody thinking of using their free Hyatt nights to go here?
With no upgrades to OWB, other resorts are probably the way to go if you're schlepping to the Maldives...
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2011, 01:16:56 AM
Sounds to me from that review that if you write to this GM (and let them know you'll be posting on TA) that they'll probably take care of you...
Def. wouldn't shlep all the way there though without something in writing confirming an OWB.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: damaxer91 on September 11, 2011, 01:28:43 AM
Reviews on Trip Adviser of "Luxury Hotels" are generally a waste of time because you have no idea what the persons standards are. One person's Five Star resort is anothers Motel Six
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: aussiebochur on September 11, 2011, 01:34:18 AM
Some guys here (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxury-hotels-220/) seem to really know what theyre talking about...
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: damaxer91 on September 11, 2011, 02:29:51 AM
Some guys here (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxury-hotels-220/) seem to really know what theyre talking about...



+1,000,000
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: sky121 on September 16, 2011, 12:51:13 PM
If someone with Hyatt Diamond books a room for you, do you get Diamond benefits?
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: Dan on September 16, 2011, 01:11:30 PM
If someone with Hyatt Diamond books a room for you, do you get Diamond benefits?
If done right, yes.
Title: Re: New Park Hyatt!!!
Post by: sky121 on September 16, 2011, 01:23:00 PM
If done right, yes.

What's the "right" way?  I have UR points I'd like to use for the summer to book the PH  Paris for a week.