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Title: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yanky425 on September 04, 2016, 08:33:08 PM
Am I the only one around who wants to ditch my smartphone?

I have a computer at work, and aside from needing my contacts and calendar events alerts every now and then, I don't want anything else in my pocket.

Does anyone know of a flip phone that can manually import calendar events from CSV?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on September 04, 2016, 10:00:02 PM
+1 IMHO such a device could sell very well
But I would say it should have One feature namely it should sync contacts and calendar with google

I think tag etc. Should invest in something like this shouldn't be too complicated any existing feature phone could handle it with some Java coding
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: whYME on September 04, 2016, 10:03:00 PM
A friend of mine finally caved last week and ditched his flip phone for a smartphone... :)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MosheD on September 04, 2016, 11:14:28 PM
+1 IMHO such a device could sell very well
But I would say it should have One feature namely it should sync contacts and calendar with google

I think tag etc. Should invest in something like this shouldn't be too complicated any existing feature phone could handle it with some Java coding
If TAG markets it it'll be a flop. Needs irreligious imo. Also whatsapp. And tapatalk.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yakov116 on September 04, 2016, 11:29:37 PM
If TAG markets it it'll be a flop. Needs irreligious imo. Also whatsapp. And tapatalk.
Big problem as WA has to be updated and that is the hard part
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yochiek93 on September 05, 2016, 01:08:55 AM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160905/b19762448afa5382e2ddd137dec3ad97.jpg)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on September 05, 2016, 01:09:59 AM
If TAG markets it it'll be a flop. Needs irreligious imo. Also whatsapp. And tapatalk.
These kind are already available, they are called "smartphones", the discussion here is that people want "plain" flip phone & should have nothing more then a flip phone has nowadays, just they want that the info that is already there should be synced to google, but they don't want any new features or apps.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on September 05, 2016, 01:14:35 AM
Am I the only one around who wants to ditch my smartphone?

I have a computer at work, and aside from needing my contacts and calendar events alerts every now and then, I don't want anything else in my pocket.

Does anyone know of a flip phone that can manually import calendar events from CSV?

+1 IMHO such a device could sell very well
But I would say it should have One feature namely it should sync contacts and calendar with google

I think tag etc. Should invest in something like this shouldn't be too complicated any existing feature phone could handle it with some Java coding

When making the manufacturing decision, please count me as a customer.

PS I have sprint service, so please make a sprint version. (If ever manufactured it wont be available for sprint or Verizon, as with the stupid CDMA system that the devices need to be specific for the carrier, so even if %1 of the market wants such a phone ita not worthwhile to invest in a carrier specific for this model, but %1 of the the GSM that is most of the world, there the %1 is a much bigger number & its worthwhile to produce for that %1)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yesitsme on September 05, 2016, 01:19:56 AM
With you in mind  ;) (http://www.androidauthority.com/leaked-images-samsung-folder-2-714681/)  Compare (http://gadgets.ndtv.com/lg-wine-smart-2015-2843-vs-samsung-galaxy-folder-2822)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on September 05, 2016, 01:30:11 AM
+1 IMHO such a device could sell very well
But I would say it should have One feature namely it should sync contacts and calendar with google
+1000000000
Though I would add some kind of a QWERTY keyboard as well as multilingual capabilities. I actually got a Nokia E72, which could have been a compromise that I might be happy with for myself if I could remove some unnecessary bloatware and have it working smoothly.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on September 05, 2016, 01:45:18 AM
With you in mind  ;) (http://www.androidauthority.com/leaked-images-samsung-folder-2-714681/)  Compare (http://gadgets.ndtv.com/lg-wine-smart-2015-2843-vs-samsung-galaxy-folder-2822)
These are nothing new, these are regular smart phones that are supposed to look like flip phones, but they are so big that no one mistakes them for flip.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Zevi16 on September 05, 2016, 02:06:44 AM
The battery life on the good old phones... Aaahh!  The only thing stopping me is the Google contacts
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bb1836 on September 05, 2016, 10:24:49 AM
i still have my basic flip phone. and i text with T9, which probably makes me the fastest texter in the world!!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: good sam on September 05, 2016, 11:29:01 AM
i still have my basic flip phone. and i text with T9, which probably makes me the fastest texter in the world!!  ;) ;)
Lol. Remember when you had to press each key 2/3 times until you got to the right letter?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: incendia on September 05, 2016, 02:17:11 PM
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=flip+phone+
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: cubicles on September 05, 2016, 02:28:30 PM
Palm centro is in between basic and smart
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yakov116 on September 05, 2016, 02:41:34 PM
Palm centro is in between basic and smart
but sloooooow
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Name Changed on September 05, 2016, 02:44:49 PM
With you in mind  ;) (http://www.androidauthority.com/leaked-images-samsung-folder-2-714681/)  Compare (http://gadgets.ndtv.com/lg-wine-smart-2015-2843-vs-samsung-galaxy-folder-2822)
I like the SAMSUNG GALAXY FOLDER. I'm on Verizon and this isn't an option. I always contemplate that change to a GSM provider to give me a broader choice of phones.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bb1836 on September 05, 2016, 05:00:36 PM
Lol. Remember when you had to press each key 2/3 times until you got to the right letter?
yeah, thats for ABC though, not T9
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bb1836 on September 05, 2016, 05:03:33 PM
does anybody currently have the LG Exalt 2?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yakov116 on September 05, 2016, 05:25:17 PM
does anybody currently have the LG Exalt 2?
Yes
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bb1836 on September 05, 2016, 06:20:27 PM
Yes
did you ever have the Exalt 1?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yakov116 on September 05, 2016, 06:32:32 PM
did you ever have the Exalt 1?
no
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Centro on September 05, 2016, 06:49:51 PM
but sloooooow
Shut up you!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bb1836 on September 05, 2016, 07:24:49 PM
no
I'm trying to compare the two, cuz i have the Exalt 1 now and when the Inbox gets even half full it gets very slow when trying to open the inbox. also it randomly doesn't receive pics messages...any of these problems?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yakov116 on September 05, 2016, 07:34:16 PM
I'm trying to compare the two, cuz i have the Exalt 1 now and when the Inbox gets even half full it gets very slow when trying to open the inbox. also it randomly doesn't receive pics messages...any of these problems?
Don't have any of those issues
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yakov116 on September 05, 2016, 07:34:50 PM
Shut up you!
Sorry didn't mean it personal
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Centro on September 05, 2016, 07:40:16 PM
Sorry didn't mean it personal
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: WhatNot on September 05, 2016, 07:54:56 PM
This would be a great idea. If anyone gets this done i am the first to jump on it.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on September 06, 2016, 12:23:16 PM
You are missing the point, most people are not looking to have a dumb looking smartphone, it is about a feature phone with a few minor advances such as google contacts and calendar sync, no apps, no whatsapp

I think this is where there's a gap in what's available
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on September 06, 2016, 12:57:37 PM
You are missing the point, most people are not looking to have a dumb looking smartphone, it is about a feature phone with a few minor advances such as google contacts and calendar sync, no apps, no whatsapp

I think this is where there's a gap in what's available
I agree with you for the most, though WhatsApp has become a major form of communication (I am not talking about groups, but p2p communication). Nokia 208 is a feature phone that supports whatsapp (at least until the end of 2016, but even BB support for whatsapp is ending - so we desperately need the world to move to Telegram and have Telegram apps for all kinds of phones).
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: User6669 on September 09, 2016, 05:16:39 AM
Palm centro is in between basic and smart

+100 Big Centro fan because of that.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: User6669 on September 09, 2016, 05:19:06 AM
You are missing the point, most people are not looking to have a dumb looking smartphone

Depends on the society you're surrounded with.  8)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on September 09, 2016, 10:11:31 AM
Depends on the society you're surrounded with.  8)
The people like OP

I personally own a LG wine smart, I would replace it with a dumb phone that has google sync capabilities
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on November 03, 2016, 02:44:29 PM
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=18362
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on November 03, 2016, 05:15:10 PM
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=18362
Sim card?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on November 03, 2016, 09:07:34 PM
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=18362
That's nice! First such phone from a US carrier (though it's a shame that its TraceFone and not one of the major carriers, or unlocked.) It is much more old-school flip-phone style than the Samsung Android flip phone and somewhat more updated specs than the LG Wine.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on November 04, 2016, 12:50:54 AM
That's nice! First such phone from a US carrier (though it's a shame that its TraceFone and not one of the major carriers, or unlocked.) It is much more old-school flip-phone style than the Samsung Android flip phone and somewhat more updated specs than the LG Wine.
Yea, it's a real shame that its only tracfone (specially as tracfone devices are known to be hard to unlock), but it's a step in the right direction, & hopefully other US carriers will follow suit.

ETA: just saw this https://www.tfwunlockpolicy.com/wps/portal/home/ so could be unlocking won't be so hard. But when will it be available  stupid CDMA version?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on November 04, 2016, 02:10:56 AM
ETA: just saw this https://www.tfwunlockpolicy.com/wps/portal/home/ so could be unlocking won't be so hard. But when will it be available  stupid CDMA version?
You are asking when this phone will be available? It is already available.

About unlocking, true that they write that the phones will be capable of unlocking, but officially they won't unlock if not used 12 months with their service. (when unlocked would this be compatible with Verizon and Verizon MVNO?)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on November 04, 2016, 02:47:21 PM
Does anyone know how to take  a screenshot on LG wine?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on November 04, 2016, 02:56:03 PM
Does anyone know how to take  a screenshot on LG wine?
Press Power and Home buttons and hold them down for about 1.5 seconds simultaneously. You'll hear a camera sound
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on November 04, 2016, 03:32:30 PM
Press Power and Home buttons and hold them down for about 1.5 seconds simultaneously. You'll hear a camera sound
Does not work for me
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on November 22, 2016, 09:34:22 PM
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=18362
Now for only $69 at Best Buy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/tracfone-zte-cymbal-t-lte-4g-lte-with-3gb-memory-prepaid-cell-phone-silver-gray/5581014.p (but HSN (https://www.hsn.com/products/zte-android-flip-tracfone-w1200-minutes-texts-and-data/8242556) gives you for $99 the phone with a package of minutes and a bit of data.)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: sruliL on November 24, 2016, 03:40:39 PM
If you only want talk, text, and Google contacts/calendar then why don't you just take your current smartphone (or get a cheap BLU) and have TAG block everything else?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: cubicles on November 24, 2016, 04:47:46 PM
If you only want talk, text, and Google contacts/calendar then why don't you just take your current smartphone (or get a cheap BLU) and have TAG block everything else?
easier said then done
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: sruliL on November 24, 2016, 05:25:51 PM
How so? They can block apps and the app store. The only thing that needs to be open is Google Calendar and contacts.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yakov116 on November 24, 2016, 05:31:43 PM
How so? They can block apps and the app store. The only thing that needs to be open is Google Calendar and contacts.
Trust him there are many ways to get around an app block
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on December 28, 2016, 01:18:33 PM
Is anyone aware of a keyboard for Android flip that will allow T9 typing with the numeric keypad?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: User6669 on December 28, 2016, 02:04:01 PM
Is anyone aware of a keyboard for Android flip that will allow T9 typing with the numeric keypad?

https://www.geckoandfly.com/8529/smart-keyboard-pro-t9-keyboard-for-google-android/ (https://www.geckoandfly.com/8529/smart-keyboard-pro-t9-keyboard-for-google-android/)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 28, 2016, 02:14:36 PM
Is anyone aware of a keyboard for Android flip that will allow T9 typing with the numeric keypad?
Which android flip phone? The "TracFone - ZTE Cymbal T" comes with such a keyboard (T12, not T9) preinstalled. It is TouchPal Keyboard (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.emoji.keyboard.touchpal&referrer=IME_ONLINE_000026) but not sure if they have a special version for their phone.

https://www.geckoandfly.com/8529/smart-keyboard-pro-t9-keyboard-for-google-android/ (https://www.geckoandfly.com/8529/smart-keyboard-pro-t9-keyboard-for-google-android/)
I think he looks for a T9 on the physical keyboard, bot just this layout on the touchscreen.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on December 28, 2016, 02:31:02 PM
Which android flip phone? The "TracFone - ZTE Cymbal T" comes with such a keyboard (T12, not T9) preinstalled. It is TouchPal Keyboard (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.emoji.keyboard.touchpal&referrer=IME_ONLINE_000026) but not sure if they have a special version for their phone.
I think he looks for a T9 on the physical keyboard, bot just this layout on the touchscreen.
Correct, smart keyboard pro will not help I tried it when using physical keypad it will only enter numbers

I have the LG wine smart
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 28, 2016, 02:35:45 PM
Correct, smart keyboard pro will not help I tried it when using physical keypad it will only enter numbers

I have the LG wine smart
So try TouchPal and see if it does work for the Wine too.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on December 28, 2016, 02:51:06 PM
Same thing with TouchPal
BTW is there a T-Mobile variant of the cymbal-T?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 28, 2016, 03:04:44 PM
Same thing with TouchPal
BTW is there a T-Mobile variant of the cymbal-T?
The Wine should have itself a T9 option (see here (http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_wine_smart-reviews-7451.php#5401745) and here (http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/the-flip-phone-is-back-with-the-lg-wine-smart) talks about it) I just don't know the right setting or key you need to use to turn it on. Try looking in Language & Input settings, also try if the # or * key do not change the keyboard to be T9 (obviously all those only if LG Keyboard is selected to be the default keyboard.)

The cymbal-T is Tracfone only.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on January 03, 2017, 06:17:52 PM
Got it working with traditional T9 keyboard
Anyone figured how to install cwm or twrp on LG wine smart?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on June 15, 2017, 07:14:38 PM
Do we have hope?
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/06/15/verizon-just-started-selling-lte-lg-flip-phone/
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on June 15, 2017, 09:24:52 PM
Do we have hope?
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/06/15/verizon-just-started-selling-lte-lg-flip-phone/
Hope indeed!

Now if only it can sync with Google contacts (and calendar) I might switch.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 04, 2017, 11:44:21 AM
I've finally taken the plunge and switched to an LG Exalt LTE.

After less than 24 hours with the device, there are some immediate pros and cons that I see. Hopefully we can work through some of the cons.

First the cons:

1. No outside screen. Need to flip the phone open to check time or see who's calling.
2. Lack of Hebrew input.
3. No Whatsapp or Telegram (that I'm aware of yet).
4. No (obvious, or possibly none at all) way to send voice notes.
5. No Jewish texts easily available (though I'm sure I will find a solution to this, at the very least, add them as notes to the notepad app).


And some of the Pros:
1. PHYSICAL DIALPAD!
2. No touchscreen.
3. Actually displays Hebrew in contacts and text messages - this was one thing I was afraid I would lose.
4. No urge to go online, as it isn't very practical.
5. Ability to go online when needed, and basic email access.
6. Light.
7. Flip phone - won't dial numbers by mistake while in my pocket.
8. Unlocked global phone (while LTE bands seem to be limited to Verizon bands, it seems to have support for 3G bands that will work almost anywhere).
9. Wifi hotspot capability.
10. Much better for שלום בית!
11. PHYSICAL DIALPAD!


From playing around with the phone, it seems to me like the phone firmware is some highly customized version of Android, which actually gives me hope of the ability to eventually get some of the cons I listed resolved.

Anyone else got this phone, any software solutions/upgrades?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on August 04, 2017, 11:46:20 AM
9. Wifi hotspot capability.

This makes it a deal for me
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 04, 2017, 11:48:20 AM
This makes it a deal for me
It's one of the things that made me decide before I ordered that I can live with any cons, as I can always connect with a tablet/smartphone over wifi if needed. Though the lack of outside screen is really stupid IMHO, especially since the default setting is to answer calls by flipping phone open.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on August 04, 2017, 01:11:59 PM
VN360 or VN220?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 05, 2017, 11:18:49 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/03/samsung-launches-leader-8-a-high-end-dual-screened-android-flip-phone.html
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 05, 2017, 11:19:50 PM

VN360 or VN220?
VN220
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on August 06, 2017, 12:18:34 PM
I've finally taken the plunge and switched to an LG Exalt LTE.

After less than 24 hours with the device, there are some immediate pros and cons that I see. Hopefully we can work through some of the cons.

First the cons:

1. No outside screen. Need to flip the phone open to check time or see who's calling.
2. Lack of Hebrew input.
3. No Whatsapp or Telegram (that I'm aware of yet).
4. No (obvious, or possibly none at all) way to send voice notes.
5. No Jewish texts easily available (though I'm sure I will find a solution to this, at the very least, add them as notes to the notepad app).


And some of the Pros:
1. PHYSICAL DIALPAD!
2. No touchscreen.
3. Actually displays Hebrew in contacts and text messages - this was one thing I was afraid I would lose.
4. No urge to go online, as it isn't very practical.
5. Ability to go online when needed, and basic email access.
6. Light.
7. Flip phone - won't dial numbers by mistake while in my pocket.
8. Unlocked global phone (while LTE bands seem to be limited to Verizon bands, it seems to have support for 3G bands that will work almost anywhere).
9. Wifi hotspot capability.
10. Much better for שלום בית!
11. PHYSICAL DIALPAD!


From playing around with the phone, it seems to me like the phone firmware is some highly customized version of Android, which actually gives me hope of the ability to eventually get some of the cons I listed resolved.

Anyone else got this phone, any software solutions/upgrades?
As far as the keyboard, there is regular and t9, or is there anything newer/easier?

Do any android apps work?  What about it is android?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 06, 2017, 12:22:40 PM

As far as the keyboard, there is regular and t9, or is there anything newer/easier?

Do any android apps work?  What about it is android?
T9 or just regular abc (also gives Chinese input option, which gives me a very slight glimmer of hope for Hebrew eventually becoming available).

It is not Android. Haven't found any way to add or install apps (though it looks like it's based on android kernel- highly modified).
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on August 06, 2017, 12:26:52 PM
Thanks.
T9 or just regular abc (also gives Chinese input option, which gives me a very slight glimmer of hope for Hebrew eventually becoming available).

It is not Android. Haven't found any way to add or install apps (though it looks like it's based on android kernel- highly modified).

thanks. Does it have a flashlight option?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 06, 2017, 12:27:23 PM

Thanks. thanks. Does it have a flashlight option?
No.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on August 06, 2017, 12:55:21 PM
Can it open PDF and Docs?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on August 06, 2017, 01:02:03 PM
4. No (obvious, or possibly none at all) way to send voice notes.

https://ss7.vzw.com/is/content/VerizonWireless/Devices/LG/LG%2520Exalt%2520LTE/lg-exalt-lte-ug.pdf

See page 49 how to share a voice note.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 06, 2017, 02:17:54 PM
https://ss7.vzw.com/is/content/VerizonWireless/Devices/LG/LG%2520Exalt%2520LTE/lg-exalt-lte-ug.pdf

See page 49 how to share a voice note.
Link you posted doesn't work (maybe need to be logged in to VZW to view). Here's a link to the manual from LG: http://www.lg.com/us/support-mobile/lg-LGVN220#manuals

Yeah, one can share a voice note, but it's not as simple as responding to a text message or a whatsapp by just holding a button and recording a response.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 06, 2017, 02:19:43 PM
Can it open PDF and Docs?
With the screen size, I don't see how that would be practical. Didn't try. Though even if one cannot directly, I'm sure one could use a web based workaround if really necessary.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 07, 2017, 01:49:52 PM
So now I've got some proof positive that the OS is indeed a customized version of Android.

(http://i.imgur.com/jXFNhsA.png) (http://i.imgur.com/wkKNC3P.png) (http://i.imgur.com/7J8EUFH.png) (http://i.imgur.com/VO6ue7T.png)

My only problem is that I haven't figured out yet any way to enter developer mode or debug mode or anything of the sort, that will let me install anything, but my hopes are up there that the developer community will figure out something down the road. Adding WhatsApp, Hebrew Input, and some essential jewish software (calendar, various texts, etc.) will really make this phone that much more useful.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on August 07, 2017, 01:52:11 PM
So now I've got some proof positive that the OS is indeed a customized version of Android.

(http://i.imgur.com/jXFNhsA.png) (http://i.imgur.com/wkKNC3P.png) (http://i.imgur.com/7J8EUFH.png) (http://i.imgur.com/VO6ue7T.png)

My only problem is that I haven't figured out yet any way to enter developer mode or debug mode or anything of the sort, that will let me install anything, but my hopes are up there that the developer community will figure out something down the road. Adding WhatsApp, Hebrew Input, and some essential jewish software (calendar, various texts, etc.) will really make this phone that much more useful.
Following
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on August 07, 2017, 01:55:07 PM
Does it have filtering?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 07, 2017, 01:56:42 PM
Does it have filtering?
ALOL

To quote the response from my son's yeshiva to certain phones that technically do have ability to browse the internet (paraphrasing): "We have no problem with that phone, it is a form of torture to browse online with that phone".
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Hershelsdeals on August 07, 2017, 02:32:35 PM
Anyone know if the Samsung folder 2 could work on Verizon Wireless?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 07, 2017, 02:35:36 PM
Anyone know if the Samsung folder 2 could work on Verizon Wireless?
IINM that is currently only in the Korean market.

VZW uses unique LTE bands, so unless a phone was designed to be truly universal, not very likely.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on September 25, 2017, 10:59:48 AM
IINM that is currently only in the Korean market.

VZW uses unique LTE bands, so unless a phone was designed to be truly universal, not very likely.
Wow, just what I need. Is it an unlocked phone? Would it work with GSM carriers in the US?>
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on September 25, 2017, 12:20:16 PM
Wow, just what I need. Is it an unlocked phone? Would it work with GSM carriers in the US?>
This doesn't support GSM, it works only on LTE, and probably doesn't support LTE bands of carriers other than Verizon in the US.

I am almost ready to give up on this phone. The flip format with physical keypad and light weight are the major things still keeping me on it, but otherwise there are many cons (bad sound quality, bad reception, no outside screen to see who's calling or to see time).

I am actually toying with the idea to switch to the Apple watch, now that it can make phone calls and send and receive texts, but I'm afraid it might have some issues.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on September 25, 2017, 03:41:12 PM
This doesn't support GSM, it works only on LTE, and probably doesn't support LTE bands of carriers other than Verizon in the US.

I am almost ready to give up on this phone. The flip format with physical keypad and light weight are the major things still keeping me on it, but otherwise there are many cons (bad sound quality, bad reception, no outside screen to see who's calling or to see time).

I am actually toying with the idea to switch to the Apple watch, now that it can make phone calls and send and receive texts, but I'm afraid it might have some issues.
I think this one does an outside screen, no? Also why would it have bad reception if it works on LTE?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on September 25, 2017, 03:46:04 PM
I think this one does an outside screen, no? Also why would it have bad reception if it works on LTE?
I have it. You are welcome to see it in action.

I can only compare it to the reception I had with my iPhone, and I can tell you that it isn't as good. It supports less bands than the iPhone does. Also, the iPhone supports 3G, not only 4G while the LG only supports 4G LTE on VERIZON bands.

Also forgot to mention that bluetooth doesn't always connect automatically in my car.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on September 26, 2017, 09:24:42 PM
I have it. You are welcome to see it in action.

I can only compare it to the reception I had with my iPhone, and I can tell you that it isn't as good. It supports less bands than the iPhone does. Also, the iPhone supports 3G, not only 4G while the LG only supports 4G LTE on VERIZON bands.

Also forgot to mention that bluetooth doesn't always connect automatically in my car.
We are talking about the Samsung folder 2 here.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on September 26, 2017, 10:41:55 PM
We are talking about the Samsung folder 2 here.
I don't think that is available in the US market.

I am describing my experience with the LG Exalt LTE  aka LG VN220 which is available exclusively for Verizon.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on September 26, 2017, 11:08:50 PM
I think this one does an outside screen, no?
Nope, does not have outside screen,  remember seeing somewhere new Samsung folder will have full outside screen.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on September 27, 2017, 10:36:05 AM
Did anyone find a keyboard that can do English T9 on the LG wine?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on October 18, 2017, 01:05:37 PM
Did anyone find a keyboard that can do English T9 on the LG wine?
Does the lg wine work in US? Which carrier are you using?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on October 18, 2017, 01:43:08 PM
Does the lg wine work in US? Which carrier are you using?
I use tmobile very bad
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on October 18, 2017, 01:55:12 PM
I use tmobile very bad
Would you know if it works with all carriers? (Verizon,att,sprint)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on October 18, 2017, 06:10:07 PM
Did anyone find a keyboard that can do English T9 on the LG wine?
What kind of keyboard does it come up when you using the touch screen? isn`t it like the keypad!? there you have an option for T9.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on October 18, 2017, 06:44:10 PM
What kind of keyboard does it come up when you using the touch screen? isn`t it like the keypad!? there you have an option for T9.
i only see taiwanese t9
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on October 18, 2017, 09:18:34 PM
i only see taiwanese t9
Is your keyboard set as English - English?
Go to settings > language & input > lg keyboard > input language and keyboard, select English - English.
Should be English T9
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on October 20, 2017, 02:09:46 PM
Is your keyboard set as English - English?
Go to settings > language & input > lg keyboard > input language and keyboard, select English - English.
Should be English T9
This is what i see
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171020/4087a1f6b59d1332853a9885a4691349.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171020/ca4931f178844ef729f3efdac333b841.jpg)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on October 22, 2017, 01:03:56 PM
First uncheck this chinese,
And by the english select phone keyboard,when typing you`ll see the option T9.
If you can`t uncheck the chinese select (the chinese keyboard) as QWERTY keyboard.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on October 22, 2017, 02:35:21 PM
Unable to uncheck chinese enabled phone keyboard for english its not t9
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on October 22, 2017, 02:47:26 PM
Did you select QWERTY keyboard by chinese?
might be the hebrew is in the way here, for now unselect hebrew,
type with touch screen it should come up the phone keyboard, on the right side of the keyboard the second row should say T9, select that and it will work on your actual phone keyboard.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on October 22, 2017, 03:26:56 PM
The pic is unclear,but you can see on the right side the option of T9
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on October 22, 2017, 03:37:36 PM
The pic is unclear,but you can see on the right side the option of T9
In that place i see ATX

Can you share the APK?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: cubicles on October 22, 2017, 05:47:59 PM
Anyone know if the Samsung folder 2 could work on Verizon Wireless?
My friend has it works with AT&T (bought on ebay) so far he is very happy
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 22, 2017, 06:11:33 PM
My friend has it works with AT&T (bought on ebay) so far he is very happy
does it pick up 4g lte bands?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on October 22, 2017, 07:32:49 PM
In that place i see ATX

Can you share the APK?

Send screenshot.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on October 22, 2017, 09:43:10 PM
Send screenshot.
Here you go (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171023/65efd637fa9e981e93b761d64b7cffc6.jpg)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on October 23, 2017, 03:33:49 PM
Here you go (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171023/65efd637fa9e981e93b761d64b7cffc6.jpg)
what happens when you select ATX?
try it might be T9 just different name on it.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on October 23, 2017, 03:50:20 PM
Nothing
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: joe1234 on October 23, 2017, 04:13:29 PM
Where can I get a cheap non smart phone-flip phone for T-Mobile ?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 26, 2017, 11:07:28 PM
Okay so I went to the Samsung Cn site and use google translate and it looks like they have a whole series os flip smart phones since 2014 and they keep on releasing newer phones every year.

I bought this on ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/332209923375?rmvSB=true as the Folder 2  but based on Samsung's site its the old Folder phone and this (see link) is the newer folder 2 https://www.samsung.com/cn/smartphones/galaxy-folder2/SM-G1650ZKECHC/

Makes sense?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on October 26, 2017, 11:30:52 PM
Nothing
Very interesting, might be different model.
BTW do you know he it works with at&t? Any other besides t mobile?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on December 05, 2017, 05:58:11 PM
What exactly is the LG wine?  Is it a regular android just flips? Similar to the folder?  Does it support whatsapp?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shlonx on December 05, 2017, 07:16:06 PM
I have an LG Wine and it's a regular flip phone. No Whatsapp. No Android OS.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on December 05, 2017, 08:10:56 PM
If you are referring to the wine smart, yes it's a regular android
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on December 05, 2017, 08:57:33 PM
If you are referring to the wine smart, yes it's a regular android
Is that what you have?

Was it released for the US market?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 05, 2017, 09:53:46 PM
Is that what you have?

Was it released for the US market?
Was not officially released for the US market. The only android flip phone released officially in the US is the ZTE Cymbal-T
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Brian93 on December 05, 2017, 10:50:50 PM
Was not officially released for the US market. The only android flip phone released officially in the US is the ZTE Cymbal-T
Looks like zte cymbal t is only with tracfone
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 05, 2017, 11:02:38 PM
Looks like zte cymbal t is only with tracfone
Total Wireless has it as well https://www.walmart.com/ip/Total-Wireless-ZTE-Cymbal-T-8GB-Prepaid-Smartphone-Black/55381320, but you are right that it is not a GSM phone working with AT&T and T-Mobile.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on December 16, 2017, 08:19:05 PM
In Canada now and the Folder 2 is picking up 4g bands!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: effulgent.unicorn on January 09, 2018, 02:56:02 PM
So now I've got some proof positive that the OS is indeed a customized version of Android.

(http://i.imgur.com/jXFNhsA.png) (http://i.imgur.com/wkKNC3P.png) (http://i.imgur.com/7J8EUFH.png) (http://i.imgur.com/VO6ue7T.png)

My only problem is that I haven't figured out yet any way to enter developer mode or debug mode or anything of the sort, that will let me install anything, but my hopes are up there that the developer community will figure out something down the road. Adding WhatsApp, Hebrew Input, and some essential jewish software (calendar, various texts, etc.) will really make this phone that much more useful.

To get to the hidden menu that allows developer options and thereby debugging mode among other things dial ##7764726220 and enter 000000 for the service code.
As per https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/rooting-roms/rooting-lg-exalt-lte-verizon-lg-vn220-t3668054 attempts to install apps have met with mixed results.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2018, 02:59:57 PM
To get to the hidden menu that allows developer options and thereby debugging mode among other things dial ##7764726220 and enter 000000 for the service code.
As per https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/rooting-roms/rooting-lg-exalt-lte-verizon-lg-vn220-t3668054 attempts to install apps have met with mixed results.
Wow! Thank you! and Welcome to DDF! Your like count now matches your post count. How many DDFers can boast such an achievement? ;)

Not sure if this will end up helping me, but your post is really appreciated. I have another issue with this phone, which is its bluetooth connectivity. Often loses connectivity to car audio system. I've experienced this in different cars, so I think I can safely assume it's the phone and not the car audio system.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on January 09, 2018, 03:13:16 PM
 @ExGingi advise if you can get whatsapp on there.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: effulgent.unicorn on January 09, 2018, 03:28:49 PM
No problem! :)

Always excited to see at least a few more people are working towards similar goals.

I'm mostly trying to get fb messeneger lite on mine for the push notifications, but will probably add a few other apps if it works eventually.

As far as bluetooth, I don't use it very much, and even less with cars, so I have nothing off the top of my head, but I'll keep an eye out.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2018, 03:59:13 PM
No problem! :)

Always excited to see at least a few more people are working towards similar goals.

I'm mostly trying to get fb messeneger lite on mine for the push notifications, but will probably add a few other apps if it works eventually.

As far as bluetooth, I don't use it very much, and even less with cars, so I have nothing off the top of my head, but I'll keep an eye out.
Please keep us posted with ANY app that you manage to sideload.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: effulgent.unicorn on January 09, 2018, 05:41:27 PM
Absolutely!!

I'm still running into "inconsistent certificate" errors with any apk I try, but I'm not giving up yet & will post if I figure it out.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: elikay on January 10, 2018, 02:02:01 AM
Where on XDA do you see that anyone had success installing any apps?!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yammer on January 10, 2018, 02:14:10 AM
Where on XDA do you see that anyone had success installing any apps?!
No one has been successful, They're all hitting a roadblock.

But it may eventually pan out
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: effulgent.unicorn on January 11, 2018, 06:47:22 PM
Where on XDA do you see that anyone had success installing any apps?!

In the thread I posted the link to- the second post in the thread user jfn0802 said they'd been using adb to sideload apps. But they haven't been online since like October... Everyone else I've seen is running into INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_INCONSISTENT_CERTIFICATES, as am I.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on January 11, 2018, 07:07:30 PM
No one has been successful, They're all hitting a roadblock.

But it may will eventually pan out. Though by that time we might be on to the next device.
FTFY.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Essen est zich on January 15, 2018, 09:31:55 PM
Anybody have any recommendations for a flip phone besides the Alcatel go flip that will work with T-Mobile's 4G network? Tia
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on January 15, 2018, 10:22:07 PM
Anybody have any recommendations for a flip phone besides the Alcatel go flip that will work with T-Mobile's 4G network? Tia
Zte z320.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 15, 2018, 11:24:40 PM
Does the Samsung new flip smartphone work on VZW?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on January 16, 2018, 06:49:29 AM
Does the Samsung new flip smartphone work on VZW?
Definitely not. Samsung's folder phones are not made for the US, and there's no Asian market phone that works on VZW.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yammer on January 16, 2018, 08:37:35 PM
Definitely not. Samsung's folder phones are not made for the US, and there's no Asian market phone that works on VZW.
How about the Lenovo Flip phone?

Lenovo A588T Elders/Business Vertical Flip Smart Phone Android 4.4 GSM 4 inch TFT Screen ROM 4GB MTK6582M Quad Core 5MP Camera Dual SIM
 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RBOTIKG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_kJQxAbGGF94W8
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yammer on January 16, 2018, 08:38:50 PM
Are there any Smartphone flip phones that have a qwerty keyboards ( Android, Windows, etc.)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on January 17, 2018, 07:25:53 AM
How about the Lenovo Flip phone?

Lenovo A588T Elders/Business Vertical Flip Smart Phone Android 4.4 GSM 4 inch TFT Screen ROM 4GB MTK6582M Quad Core 5MP Camera Dual SIM
 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RBOTIKG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_kJQxAbGGF94W8
Even more definite... Lenovo, Huawei, Xiaomi and the like never made a phone compatible with Verizon. (besides the fact that this model is very old running Android 4.4.)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on January 18, 2018, 06:37:13 PM
Is there any functioning (google or 3rd party) google voice app for blackberry os 6-7?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on January 19, 2018, 08:29:22 AM
Is there any functioning (google or 3rd party) google voice app for blackberry os 6-7?
If there's any SIP softphone app that works on it, you should be able to get it to work using simonics.com
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on January 19, 2018, 09:04:41 AM
If there's any SIP softphone app that works on it, you should be able to get it to work using simonics.com
Looking for the other app for text and placing outgoing calls using the shadow numbers.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MeirS on January 31, 2018, 07:38:39 PM
I'm looking for a good old flip (dumb) phone for every day use.

I was always a Nokia fan. What would you guys recommend?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on February 01, 2018, 03:35:52 AM
I'm looking for a good old flip (dumb) phone for every day use.

I was always a Nokia fan. What would you guys recommend?
Are you carrier specific?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MeirS on February 01, 2018, 08:36:25 AM
Are you carrier specific?
I thought I wrote unlocked but I see I forgot to write that.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on February 01, 2018, 09:15:49 AM
I thought I wrote unlocked but I see I forgot to write that.
Unlocked is not enough information. An iPhone, or a Pixel works on all currently available networks or bands. I don't think that a flip phone exists which could work on any network. Once you know the network ,you can figure out what works. (Or do you also need it to work in the UK or other countries).
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MeirS on February 01, 2018, 06:20:12 PM
Unlocked is not enough information. An iPhone, or a Pixel works on all currently available networks or bands. I don't think that a flip phone exists which could work on any network. Once you know the network ,you can figure out what works. (Or do you also need it to work in the UK or other countries).
I guess you're right (trying to get into the minds of people 15 years ago).
Right now I'm on Cricket (AT&T). If it can work in the UK and other countries on unspecified networks that would be great but I don't expect to find that.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on February 01, 2018, 06:22:24 PM

I guess you're right (trying to get into the minds of people 15 years ago).
Right now I'm on Cricket (AT&T). If it can work in the UK and other countries on unspecified networks that would be great but I don't expect to find that.
So for AT&T network you need something that works on their 3G bands.

First try to see what AT&T offers.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on February 01, 2018, 06:27:05 PM
I guess you're right (trying to get into the minds of people 15 years ago).
Right now I'm on Cricket (AT&T). If it can work in the UK and other countries on unspecified networks that would be great but I don't expect to find that.
Lg A380 is a good phone,
Or you can try the ZTE Z320.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on February 09, 2018, 09:04:25 AM
In Miami now with the Samsung Folder 2 and surprisingly 4G is working! Does it make sense AT&T has different bands here than in NY? Considering moving to Miami...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on February 09, 2018, 11:24:16 AM
In Miami now with the Samsung Folder 2 and surprisingly 4G is working! Does it make sense AT&T has different bands here than in NY? Considering moving to Miami...
Wrong thread. Need to post in pros and cons of where you live.  :)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on February 11, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
In Miami now with the Samsung Folder 2 and surprisingly 4G is working! Does it make sense AT&T has different bands here than in NY? Considering moving to Miami...
Yes, makes sense.
(Or maybe your getting signals from Cuba   )
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Eliyohu on March 02, 2018, 11:46:51 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/light-phone-2-cure-for-app-addiction-2018-2
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: cubicles on March 03, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/light-phone-2-cure-for-app-addiction-2018-2
$250 ($400) for a simple phone wondering who will buy it
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Eliyohu on March 03, 2018, 08:21:55 PM
$250 ($400) for a simple phone wondering who will buy it
The kosher smartphones ain't that much cheaper...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shnu on March 07, 2018, 12:28:51 PM
LG VN220 lte from verizon is a high quality flip phone
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: username on March 07, 2018, 12:40:54 PM
LG VN220 lte from verizon is a high quality flip phone
meh
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on March 07, 2018, 09:02:59 PM
LG VN220 lte from verizon is a high quality flip phone
TERRIBLE battery life (especially when used as Hotspot), and despite running a crippled version of Android, won't sync contacts with Google account. Luckily Verizon has Message+ which allows me to text from other devices.

Oh do I wish for a flip phone with Apple build quality (and universal GSM and LTE band compatibility). Despite it's shortcomings, the ability to have a lightweight phone that can be operated with one hand, without having two eyes on it for dialing, and with good tactile feedback, is just difficult to give up.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on March 07, 2018, 09:06:15 PM
TERRIBLE battery life (especially when used as Hotspot), and despite running a crippled version of Android, won't sync contacts with Google account. Luckily Verizon has Message+ which allows me to text from other devices.

Oh do I wish for a flip phone with Apple build quality (and universal GSM and LTE band compatibility). Despite it's shortcomings, the ability to have a lightweight phone that can be operated with one hand, without having two eyes on it for dialing, and with good tactile feedback, is just difficult to give up.
Any feedback on the Kyocera LTE flip from Verizon?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on March 07, 2018, 09:12:20 PM
Any feedback on the Kyocera LTE flip from Verizon?
Haven't seen it yet. But in the past I considered getting the non-LTE version of the Kyocera DuraXV. One of the reasons I didn't was because I found there to be an annoying delay between key presses and actual phone response/action.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on March 07, 2018, 09:14:20 PM
Haven't seen it yet. But in the past I considered getting the non-LTE version of the Kyocera DuraXV. One of the reasons I didn't was because I found there to be an annoying delay between key presses and actual phone response/action.
I hear ya!
 If I'm not mistaken it's Android based, are the non LTE the same?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: username on March 08, 2018, 09:06:54 AM
LG VN220 lte from verizon is a high quality flip phone
meh

I take that back. I was talking about LG ExaltII. I have no knowledge about the LG VN220 lte. (Yet)
 :-[
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shnu on March 12, 2018, 09:15:40 PM
Battery life lasts the whole day as opposed to my old iPhone 7 . Good call quality.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: username on March 15, 2018, 04:27:39 PM
LG VN220 lte from verizon is a high quality flip phone
Quick review:
The  thin metalic case remind me of the Peak device.

Keyboard is cheap'y feeling

I dont see how to go to the home screen or review messages while talking on the phone. (you can compose and send emails while on the phone, but cant view them)

Syncs very nicely with Microsoft Exchange, but only the emails, and all folders. Not the exchange contacts.

No email attachments

No tethering without a plan.

Even if phone is set to vibrate, if you mistakenly hit the volume button on the side, it will go off vibrate.


Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: mbasar on March 18, 2018, 12:23:02 AM
Kyocera LTE performs much better
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on March 18, 2018, 09:53:03 AM
Kyocera LTE performs much better
Are you referring to the Verizon phone? (Can't remember the name of the phone).
If so, can it be unlocked?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: mbasar on March 18, 2018, 03:09:37 PM
Are you referring to the Verizon phone? (Can't remember the name of the phone).
If so, can it be unlocked?

It is by default unlocked
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on March 18, 2018, 03:42:27 PM
It is by default unlocked
Though not necessarily compatible with other carrier's bands.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: mbasar on March 18, 2018, 06:35:27 PM
Though not necessarily compatible with other carrier's bands.
Right, will only work in US, Canada and isreal, won't work in Europe
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on March 19, 2018, 10:03:12 AM
Though not necessarily compatible with other carrier's bands.
Right, will only work in US, Canada and isreal, won't work in Europe
In USA will it work with AT&T?
Is it GSM or CDMA?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: helpyouamdme on March 19, 2018, 10:07:02 AM
no but i think Nokia is the best brand for GSM in US
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: jmd26 on March 19, 2018, 03:17:18 PM
I actually have a friend who switched to a flip phone because he was tired of being addicted!
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Post by: sguitarist18 on March 20, 2018, 10:51:19 PM
What are the best options for a basic phone with Verizon? Wish there was a wiki here...
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Post by: username on March 20, 2018, 10:59:14 PM
Quick review:
The  thin metalic case remind me of the Peak device.

Keyboard is cheap'y feeling

I dont see how to ...


It does take email attachmenys+ just not pdfs.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on March 21, 2018, 10:43:15 AM


What are the best options for a basic phone with Verizon? Wish there was a wiki here...



Kyocera LTE



LG VN220 lte from verizon is a high quality flip phone

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Post by: mbasar on March 22, 2018, 10:16:52 PM
In USA will it work with AT&T?
Is it GSM or CDMA?
I tried tmobile and it worked okay
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Post by: US on March 22, 2018, 11:25:02 PM
I tried tmobile and it worked okay
Phone calls?
Is it the Kyocera Cadence LTE?
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Post by: mbasar on March 23, 2018, 10:56:08 AM
Phone calls?
Is it the Kyocera Cadence LTE?

No so far I only tried vn220
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Post by: ExGingi on March 23, 2018, 11:08:37 AM
Phone calls?
Is it the Kyocera Cadence LTE?
From what I read, the Kyocera Cadence LTE supports even less bands than the VN220 (aka Exalt LTE). Based on specs It seems like its only (or main) advantage over the VN220 is an outside screen.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on March 23, 2018, 11:17:45 AM
I tried tmobile and it worked okay
No so far I only tried vn220
From what I read, the Kyocera Cadence LTE supports even less bands than the VN220 (aka Exalt LTE). Based on specs It seems like its only (or main) advantage over the VN220 is an outside screen.
But, does it work Normal with T Mobile?
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Post by: mbasar on March 23, 2018, 01:13:46 PM
From what I read, the Kyocera Cadence LTE supports even less bands than the VN220 (aka Exalt LTE). Based on specs It seems like its only (or main) advantage over the VN220 is an outside screen.
Correct,  most international bands aren't supported
If I have a t mobile line I can test...
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Post by: US on April 09, 2018, 12:53:44 AM


Based on specs It seems like its only (or main) advantage over the VN220 is an outside screen.



Quick review:
The  thin metalic case remind me of the Peak device.

Keyboard is cheap'y feeling

I dont see how to go to the home screen or review messages while talking on the phone. (you can compose and send emails while on the phone, but cant view them)

No email attachments

No tethering without a plan.
Seems like the list of pros is getting bigger,

On Kyocera cadence you can easily go to home screen, send/view messages while phone calls,
You can open email attachment,
You can set up mobile hotspot without a plan.
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Post by: Alexsei on April 30, 2018, 09:37:21 PM
Is there a way to sync google contacts on the LG Exalt?
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Post by: ExGingi on May 01, 2018, 12:23:11 AM
Is there a way to sync google contacts on the LG Exalt?
I am unaware.

Only able to backup/restore with Verizon cloud backup.
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Post by: aygart on May 02, 2018, 09:04:01 AM
How can I get an email app working on the VZW Samsung Brightside? The icon installed leads to the VZW app store which them says the app is unavailable.
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Post by: Yisroel Tech on May 02, 2018, 05:56:32 PM
How can I get an email app working on the VZW Samsung Brightside? The icon installed leads to the VZW app store which them says the app is unavailable.
Not sure, but do you have service with VZW themselves or through an MVNO?
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Post by: aygart on May 02, 2018, 06:31:08 PM
Not sure, but do you have service with VZW themselves or through an MVNO?
VZW
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Post by: Eliyohu on July 01, 2018, 09:56:49 AM
https://qz.com/1318961/google-is-bringing-the-best-of-android-to-cheap-feature-phones/
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Post by: ExGingi on July 01, 2018, 12:18:11 PM
https://qz.com/1318961/google-is-bringing-the-best-of-android-to-cheap-feature-phones/

Quote
Inclusion of Assistant and speech-to-tech technology...

Talk about speech to text technology failure.. ;D
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Post by: jollyjoe on July 09, 2018, 10:10:34 PM
Does the Kyocera Cadence have PDF reader for attachments because the LG Exalt does have attachments but just no PDF reader


Seems like the list of pros is getting bigger,

On Kyocera cadence you can easily go to home screen, send/view messages while phone calls,
You can open email attachment,
You can set up mobile hotspot without a plan.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on July 09, 2018, 10:39:19 PM
Okay...so my good ol' Gousto 3 started making problems...first, the vibration was only doing a single vibrate (a problem pretty common with this model) and then started cracking of pieces...so I needed to get a new one. Well, they don't activate 3G phones anymore (and anyhow a million and a half dropped calls every day). And only the LG can be taken care by TAG, so the choice is pretty much no-choice, the LG Exalt LTE.

I'm on Verizon Prepaid and was always having a phone for under 15 bucks...and this baby costs a nice $150 and up! Until I found this eBay listing (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Verizon-LG-Exalt-LTE-VN220-Silver-4G-Flip-Phone-Phone/142804121866?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649) that after an offer and counter offer I got it for $115. Still x10 the price of my Gousto...

RIP 3G  :'( :'(
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Post by: ExGingi on July 09, 2018, 10:45:58 PM
And only the LG can be taken care by TAG, so the choice is pretty much no-choice, the LG Exalt LTE.
Honestly, I dont know why anyone would need TAG to take care of the LG Exalt LTE. Only semi-practical internet use on it is as a hotspot (and that really drains the battery).
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Post by: jollyjoe on July 09, 2018, 10:47:01 PM
Which tag takes take of the LG vn220 exalt lte? I was told they don't do any of the 4g basic phones? And what do they do to it ? Thanks! It is quite expensive , but like I told my friend  , it's cheaper than the 40 a month he pays for his iPhone x
Okay...so my good ol' Gousto 3 started making problems...first, the vibration was only doing a single vibrate (a problem pretty common with this model) and then started cracking of pieces...so I needed to get a new one. Well, they don't activate 3G phones anymore (and anyhow a million and a half dropped calls every day). And only the LG can be taken care by TAG, so the choice is pretty much no-choice, the LG Exalt LTE.

I'm on Verizon Prepaid and was always having a phone for under 15 bucks...and this baby costs a nice $150 and up! Until I found this eBay listing (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Verizon-LG-Exalt-LTE-VN220-Silver-4G-Flip-Phone-Phone/142804121866?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649) that after an offer and counter offer I got it for $115. Still x10 the price of my Gousto...

RIP 3G  :'( :'(
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Post by: Yisroel Tech on July 09, 2018, 11:06:27 PM
Which tag takes take of the LG vn220 exalt lte? I was told they don't do any of the 4g basic phones? And what do they do to it ? Thanks! It is quite expensive , but like I told my friend  , it's cheaper than the 40 a month he pays for his iPhone x
Any local TAG can do it, call them up before. Livingent released the method for it free of charge לטובת הכלל (was mentioned here https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=93301.15), see below a picture of it and announcements by one of the TAGs and Geder Filter (also Livingent):

(https://i.imgur.com/WA9927G.png)
TAG:
Quote
project ID 38395
TAG Bulletin

Protecting the Basic 4G LTE Phone "LG Exalt VN220"


"Signal Faded; Call Was Lost" sounds familiar? This or similar messages is what most Verizon Basic Phone users are experiencing lately. Well, this is the beginning of the end of the 2G/3G era.

Users of most of the basic phones which rely on the 3G network have seen a significant amount of call drops and poor service throughout the nation. This is a direct result of the many dead spots of the old network which is no longer being maintained & slowly being faded out by the carriers, using the space for the 4G/5G generation. The issue is currently primarily with the Verizon Network, but will very soon follow with Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile.

While Verizon offers a number of Basic Phones which run on the 4G Network, some of them are not yet capable of being protected properly. Protections for all of the models are in different stages of development, which we will announce upon their release.

Today, TAG is happy to announce the release of a secure measure to protect the LG Exalt VN220. With this new method, a product released by the Livigent Filtering Firm, we are able to certify the phone up to the highest level of a secure Kosher Talk-Only Phone.

Purchase the phone at your favored retailer, activate the wireless service of your choice, then bring it to us to get it protected & sealed.

Please note: The protection of this device is permanent and non-reversible.

Let's stay safe together,
Geder:
Quote
project ID 38395
TAG Bulletin

Protecting the Basic 4G LTE Phone "LG Exalt VN220"


"Signal Faded; Call Was Lost" sounds familiar? This or similar messages is what most Verizon Basic Phone users are experiencing lately. Well, this is the beginning of the end of the 2G/3G era.

Users of most of the basic phones which rely on the 3G network have seen a significant amount of call drops and poor service throughout the nation. This is a direct result of the many dead spots of the old network which is no longer being maintained & slowly being faded out by the carriers, using the space for the 4G/5G generation. The issue is currently primarily with the Verizon Network, but will very soon follow with Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile.

While Verizon offers a number of Basic Phones which run on the 4G Network, some of them are not yet capable of being protected properly. Protections for all of the models are in different stages of development, which we will announce upon their release.

Today, TAG is happy to announce the release of a secure measure to protect the LG Exalt VN220. With this new method, a product released by the Livigent Filtering Firm, we are able to certify the phone up to the highest level of a secure Kosher Talk-Only Phone.

Purchase the phone at your favored retailer, activate the wireless service of your choice, then bring it to us to get it protected & sealed.

Please note: The protection of this device is permanent and non-reversible.

Let's stay safe together,
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Post by: jollyjoe on July 09, 2018, 11:27:20 PM
Thanks
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Post by: US on July 09, 2018, 11:41:04 PM
Does the Kyocera Cadence have PDF reader for attachments because the LG Exalt does have attachments but just no PDF reader
Not sure about PDF file, but you can open attachments.
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Post by: Yisroel Tech on July 10, 2018, 12:09:55 AM
Does the Kyocera Cadence have PDF reader for attachments because the LG Exalt does have attachments but just no PDF reader
Can open all kind of attachments including PDFs (also Word and Excel), although not very useable size... It basically hs a full Mobisystems OfficeSuite (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobisystems.office&hl=en_US) in it (but I didn't find a way to open the app if not by opening a document already on the device and then going to the menu.)
Honestly, I dont know why anyone would need TAG to take care of the LG Exalt LTE. Only semi-practical internet use on it is as a hotspot (and that really drains the battery).
Compared to a normal smartphone, that is. It has a fully functional web browser on which you can watch videos and what not. Not saying that it is the worsed possible device, but can still be pretty harmful if unblocked. (Of course, I'm only talking for the folks that in generally accepted that kind of approach to tech.)
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Post by: US on July 10, 2018, 08:16:40 AM


Can open all kind of attachments including PDFs (also Word and Excel), although not very useable size... It basically hs a full Mobisystems OfficeSuite (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobisystems.office&hl=en_US) in it (but I didn't find a way to open the app if not by opening a document already on the device and then going to the menu.)
Tried as well to figure out to open OfficeSuite without opening it as attachment, but once you there you can open new Excel sheets etc.
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Post by: jollyjoe on July 10, 2018, 05:14:36 PM
Thank you.
Can open all kind of attachments including PDFs (also Word and Excel), although not very useable size... It basically hs a full Mobisystems OfficeSuite (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobisystems.office&hl=en_US) in it (but I didn't find a way to open the app if not by opening a document already on the device and then going to the menu.)Compared to a normal smartphone, that is. It has a fully functional web browser on which you can watch videos and what not. Not saying that it is the worsed possible device, but can still be pretty harmful if unblocked. (Of course, I'm only talking for the folks that in generally accepted that kind of approach to tech.)
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Post by: US on July 12, 2018, 11:55:11 PM


Seems like the list of pros is getting bigger,

On Kyocera cadence you can easily go to home screen, send/view messages while phone calls,
You can open email attachment,
You can set up mobile hotspot without a plan.

Kyocera vs LG Exalt

Kyocera pros:
T9 is kind of better, you get a full layout, vs switching by pressing the 0
You can open PDF files
Email attachment (Office Suite)
Hotspot without plan
Verizon cloud (sync contacts)
Texting while on phone call
Outside screen
Kyocera con:
No video recording/player

LG Exalt Pro:
Video recording/player
LG Exalt Con:
Switch words on T9 by pressing the 0 only
No PDF viewer
No Hotspot without plan
No Verizon cloud (sync contacts)
No Texting while on phone call (although there's workaround)
No Outside screen
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Post by: Yisroel Tech on July 13, 2018, 12:08:45 AM
LG Exalt Con:
No Verizon cloud (sync contacts)
It does have.
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Post by: US on July 13, 2018, 12:21:48 AM
It does have.
Are you sure it works?
what I saw it said something, application is not installed.
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Post by: Yisroel Tech on July 13, 2018, 12:30:36 AM
Are you sure it works?
what I saw it said something, application is not installed.
Yes, see below on my Exalt (with the Livigent block.)

Two other pros for the Exalt is:
1) The internet blocking is more secure and cannot be factory reset (for whom this matters.)
2) Much much more comfortable UI and options (I have used both, and while it is very hard to describe it is just much better.)

(https://i.imgur.com/4e43Ht8.jpg)
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Post by: US on July 13, 2018, 12:34:20 AM
Yes, see below on my Exalt (with the Livigent block.)

Two other pros for the Exalt is:
1) The internet blocking is more secure and cannot be factory reset (for whom this matters.)
2) Much much more comfortable UI and options (I have used both, and while it is very hard to describe it is just much better.)

(https://i.imgur.com/4e43Ht8.jpg)
Oh wait, prepaid or postpaid?
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Post by: how on July 13, 2018, 12:42:06 AM
  Can the internet be blocked on the Kyocera cadence
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Post by: US on July 13, 2018, 12:43:44 AM
  Can the internet be blocked on the Kyocera cadence

Yes
But the LG
The internet blocking is more secure and cannot be factory reset (for whom this matters.)
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Post by: Yisroel Tech on July 13, 2018, 12:49:39 AM
Oh wait, prepaid or postpaid?
Verizon's own prepaid
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Post by: US on July 13, 2018, 12:50:54 AM
Verizon's own prepaid
Hmm.. interesting.
Gonna try again tomorrow.
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Post by: username on July 13, 2018, 02:29:43 AM
Are you sure it works?
what I saw it said something, application is not installed.
It has it and im not on a prepaid plan.

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Post by: Berenstein Bear on July 17, 2018, 11:12:21 AM
someone can direct me to the right thread.. because I'm not looking for a flip phone, but a full keypad dumphone that's vzw 4g compatible. Does it exist? TIA
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Post by: ruv on July 17, 2018, 12:28:23 PM
Does not exist as of today.
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Post by: username on July 17, 2018, 12:30:47 PM
someone can direct me to the right thread.. because I'm not looking for a flip phone, but a full keypad dumphone that's vzw 4g compatible. Does it exist? TIA
Does not exist as of today.
what about this?
Amazon.com: Samsung Stratosphere SCH-i405 4G LTE Android Black  (https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Stratosphere-SCH-i405-Android-Black/dp/B007250KN8)
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Post by: elazarmn on July 17, 2018, 12:39:07 PM
If Anyone wants to buy an AT&T flip phone PM me
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Post by: Yisroel Tech on July 17, 2018, 01:26:38 PM
what about this?
Amazon.com: Samsung Stratosphere SCH-i405 4G LTE Android Black  (https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Stratosphere-SCH-i405-Android-Black/dp/B007250KN8)
It's Android and very very old.
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Post by: shnu on July 25, 2018, 07:46:39 PM
Hi curious what your work around is for texting while on a call with the exalt 220? By me it works with certain calls and others not. Very random.
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Post by: ExGingi on July 26, 2018, 06:59:56 AM
Hi curious what your work around is for texting while on a call with the exalt 220? By me it works with certain calls and others not. Very random.
If I happen to be in my office at my desktop, or have my iPad with me and there's wifi, I use message+ on one of those. 
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Post by: US on July 26, 2018, 09:56:22 AM
Hi curious what your work around is for texting while on a call with the exalt 220? By me it works with certain calls and others not. Very random.
The easy way, if you know who's texting you or you wanna text someone in your contacts, while you on a phone call press the right soft key select contacts at the contact you have the option to send message.
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Post by: Berenstein Bear on August 08, 2018, 09:18:04 AM
Getting the 4g flip phone. If I buy a cheap smartphone also, can I switch the sim card to it to use waze etc. when necessary? I know gsm works this way, how about vzw? TIA

Also, someone mentioned its avail for $75- anyone know where? Safecell in lkwd has for $105 refurb.
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Post by: US on August 08, 2018, 10:43:49 AM


Getting the 4g flip phone. If I buy a cheap smartphone also, can I switch the sim card to it to use waze etc. when necessary? I know gsm works this way, how about vzw? TIA
Yes.
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Post by: US on August 08, 2018, 10:50:18 AM
Yes, see below on my Exalt (with the Livigent block.)

Two other pros for the Exalt is:
1) The internet blocking is more secure and cannot be factory reset (for whom this matters.)
2) Much much more comfortable UI and options (I have used both, and while it is very hard to describe it is just much better.)

(https://i.imgur.com/4e43Ht8.jpg)
My Verizon cloud (contacts back up) stopped working suddenly, would you know how I can reset it or anything to do?
Comes up "Verizon Cloud has encountered an error. Please close application and try again (code:11)"
Any ideas why this happened?
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Post by: Yisroel Tech on August 08, 2018, 06:52:12 PM
My Verizon cloud (contacts back up) stopped working suddenly, would you know how I can reset it or anything to do?
Comes up "Verizon Cloud has encountered an error. Please close application and try again (code:11)"
Any ideas why this happened?
No. But mine still works fine.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Berenstein Bear on August 16, 2018, 11:15:16 PM
Verizon basic phone (4g flip) PREPAID- will that work with Red Pocket Mobile? $120 on verizon site, $175 in local cellphone store, vs 29.88 in Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Verizon-Kyocera-Cadence-Prepaid-Cell-Phone-16GB-Black/229903939
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Post by: Alexsei on August 17, 2018, 10:50:22 AM
Verizon basic phone (4g flip) PREPAID- will that work with Red Pocket Mobile? $120 on verizon site, $175 in local cellphone store, vs 29.88 in Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Verizon-Kyocera-Cadence-Prepaid-Cell-Phone-16GB-Black/229903939
Wow, what about using it with verizon post paid?
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Post by: Berenstein Bear on August 17, 2018, 01:15:32 PM
Verizon basic phone (4g flip) PREPAID- will that work with Red Pocket Mobile? $120 on verizon site, $175 in local cellphone store, vs 29.88 in Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Verizon-Kyocera-Cadence-Prepaid-Cell-Phone-16GB-Black/229903939
phone came today with this "in order to partially offset the subsidy Verizon ... this phone may only be used with Verizon Prepaid service for 1 yr/ until $50 in payments are received"

Does that mean I have to go through the trouble of manually unlocking it? Is that even possible? I'm not very familiar with unlocking "sugya", can anyone explain in laymen's terms if I'd need to/how I should for Red Pocket Mobile.
Thanks
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Post by: Berenstein Bear on August 19, 2018, 05:39:27 PM
phone came today with this "in order to partially offset the subsidy Verizon ... this phone may only be used with Verizon Prepaid service for 1 yr/ until $50 in payments are received"

Does that mean I have to go through the trouble of manually unlocking it? Is that even possible? I'm not very familiar with unlocking "sugya", can anyone explain in laymen's terms if I'd need to/how I should for Red Pocket Mobile.
Thanks
BUMP
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Post by: Yisroel Tech on August 23, 2018, 09:34:34 PM
phone came today with this "in order to partially offset the subsidy Verizon ... this phone may only be used with Verizon Prepaid service for 1 yr/ until $50 in payments are received"

Does that mean I have to go through the trouble of manually unlocking it? Is that even possible? I'm not very familiar with unlocking "sugya", can anyone explain in laymen's terms if I'd need to/how I should for Red Pocket Mobile.
Thanks
"in laymen's terms" this is a Verizon Prepaid phone and cannot be used for anything else before using it for a year on Verizon prepaid.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Berenstein Bear on August 23, 2018, 11:38:11 PM
"in laymen's terms" this is a Verizon Prepaid phone and cannot be used for anything else before using it for a year on Verizon prepaid.
...or paying $50 it seems. I did the math and it still came out cheaper than other options. I now have unlock code and hope all will work out.
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Post by: bznt on August 24, 2018, 08:55:07 AM
phone came today with this "in order to partially offset the subsidy Verizon ... this phone may only be used with Verizon Prepaid service for 1 yr/ until $50 in payments are received"

Does that mean I have to go through the trouble of manually unlocking it? Is that even possible? I'm not very familiar with unlocking "sugya", can anyone explain in laymen's terms if I'd need to/how I should for Red Pocket Mobile.
Thanks

Ime it has to be active for 6 months on Verizon prepaid before you can activate it on MNVOs

There is no unlocking on Verizon , its not that the phone is locked, the only (illegal) way is to change the ESN number which not many people do these days
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Post by: Alexsei on August 31, 2018, 10:06:38 AM
...or paying $50 it seems. I did the math and it still came out cheaper than other options. I now have unlock code and hope all will work out.
Any update?

Also any verdict on whether this will work with t-mobile ?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Berenstein Bear on September 03, 2018, 10:59:11 AM
Any update?

Also any verdict on whether this will work with t-mobile ?
Getting rpm sim card this week and will let e/o know. Not happy with the phone though..
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Post by: Alexsei on September 07, 2018, 10:48:35 AM
Getting rpm sim card this week and will let e/o know. Not happy with the phone though..
Got news?
Looks like it only supports LTE bands 4 & 13, T-mobile utilizes 2,4,12,66,71 so the only matching band would be 4

See this https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/6k9ztf/will_i_survive_without_band_2_lte_in_the_nyc_area/
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Post by: Definitions on September 19, 2018, 11:35:11 PM
Getting rpm sim card this week and will let e/o know. Not happy with the phone though..
Any update if it worked?
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Post by: Berenstein Bear on October 03, 2018, 11:31:12 AM
Any update if it worked?
not really.. then again, we had a hectic month and couldn't put in much effort. Just easier for us to drop the whole thing and get a unlocked (not prepaid) phone and use this one for verizon
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Post by: ExGingi on October 03, 2018, 01:20:33 PM
At gate in LGA my LG VN220 had intermittent to no service. Moved SIM to old iPhone for service.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: mgarfin on October 23, 2018, 04:43:50 PM
Are these the only 2 options for Verizon 4G flip phones?

LG VN220
Kyocera cadence
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Post by: US on October 23, 2018, 07:28:06 PM
Are these the only 2 options for Verizon 4G flip phones?

LG VN220
Kyocera cadence
ZTE. not sure the model
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 23, 2018, 07:30:34 PM
Still no flip phone which has whats app?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: mgarfin on October 23, 2018, 08:27:59 PM
ZTE. not sure the model

Its advertised in a kosher model?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on October 24, 2018, 01:21:23 AM
Its advertised in a kosher model?
Umm.. don't think so. But Tag might be able to block the internet.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on October 24, 2018, 01:22:34 AM
Still no flip phone which has whats app?
The Galaxy folder? (IIRC you mentioned something upthread having the folder no?)  LG wine?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on October 24, 2018, 07:03:36 AM
The Galaxy folder? (IIRC you mentioned something upthread having the folder no?)  LG wine?
Also the ZTE Cymbal-T. But these are full fledged android phones, he's probably talking about a non-smartphone that is still a smartphone...  ;)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: grodnoking on October 24, 2018, 08:25:05 AM
Still no flip phone which has whats app?
You can "kasher" a smartfliphone.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on October 24, 2018, 08:41:16 AM
Also the ZTE Cymbal-T. But these are full fledged android phones, he's probably talking about a non-smartphone that is still a smartphone...  ;)
any reviews on how the whatsapp is?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 24, 2018, 12:04:39 PM
any reviews on how the whatsapp is?
Why wouldn't it be good, if its a regular android system? 

The Galaxy Folder is great, all apps work fine, however in NY its only picking up 3G and its killing me.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 24, 2018, 12:18:39 PM
Also the ZTE Cymbal-T. But these are full fledged android phones, he's probably talking about a non-smartphone that is still a smartphone...  ;)
I was looking around for smart flip phones and don't recall the ZTE Cymbal-T. When was it released? I see it supports 4G. If its a good phone and the apps work well I would totally ditch the folder and buy this. I just can't find too many places which sell it new which needs an explanation...

Would it work with Verizon?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on October 24, 2018, 12:24:25 PM
I was looking around for smart flip phones and don't recall the ZTE Cymbal-T. When was it released? I see it supports 4G. If its a good phone and the apps work well I would totally ditch the folder and buy this. I just can't find too many places which sell it new which needs an explanation...

Would it work with Verizon?
it seems like its a trackfone prepaid phone. That's why your not finding it all over.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on October 24, 2018, 12:25:06 PM
Why wouldn't it be good, if its a regular android system? 

The Galaxy Folder is great, all apps work fine, however in NY its only picking up 3G and its killing me.
no reason. Just wanted to hear experience on whatsapp and waze...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on October 24, 2018, 09:35:22 PM
I was looking around for smart flip phones and don't recall the ZTE Cymbal-T. When was it released? I see it supports 4G. If its a good phone and the apps work well I would totally ditch the folder and buy this. I just can't find too many places which sell it new which needs an explanation...

Would it work with Verizon?
I never used the Galaxy Folder to compare, but I own - not using much just as a toy... - a Cymbal-T and it is decent.

While the phone is sold as Tracfone Prepaid it seems to be fully compatible with Verizon's network, you gotta understand that Tracfone is just an MVNO using different carriers for different phone models, but you still might have a hard time to got Verizon to activater it (see https://www.frequencycheck.com/carrier-compatibility/7Nj1HV/zte-z353vl-cymbal-t-lte/verizon-wireless-united-states)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: sillypainter on October 24, 2018, 10:29:17 PM
Cymbal is a piece of junk and its built on Android, but it's a stripped down version of Android, don't think you can use any Android app.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on October 24, 2018, 10:46:56 PM
Cymbal is a piece of junk and its built on Android, but it's a stripped down version of Android, don't think you can use any Android app.
There's the Cymbal LTE and the Cymbal-T, 2 completely different devices. The first is a Verizon feature phone based on Android, the 2nd one is a Tracfone full Android filp-phone.

There is the Cymbal LTE:
(http://ensignal.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ztecymbal-555x555.png)

And this is the Cymbal-T:
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eZy9MCZsW50/V_fWWz6Mf2I/AAAAAAAAQAo/dY2CJfnNphkOUWLk-oKICVwrCSk-LCMPwCLcB/s1600/TracFone-ZTE-Cymbal.jpg)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on October 24, 2018, 11:25:17 PM


Are these the only 2 options for Verizon 4G flip phones?

LG VN220
Kyocera cadence


ZTE. not sure the model

This

There is the Cymbal LTE:
(http://ensignal.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ztecymbal-555x555.png)

Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on October 25, 2018, 08:25:01 AM
I never used the Galaxy Folder to compare, but I own - not using much just as a toy... - a Cymbal-T and it is decent.

While the phone is sold as Tracfone Prepaid it seems to be fully compatible with Verizon's network, you gotta understand that Tracfone is just an MVNO using different carriers for different phone models, but you still might have a hard time to got Verizon to activater it (see https://www.frequencycheck.com/carrier-compatibility/7Nj1HV/zte-z353vl-cymbal-t-lte/verizon-wireless-united-states)
did you. Activate yours on vzw? What do you mean they may give a hard time?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on October 25, 2018, 08:28:25 AM
did you. Activate yours on vzw? What do you mean they may give a hard time?
I did not.

Taken from online info and experience in the past with different devices. If the device is not officially a VZW device (the IMEI is probably registered for Tracfone) VZW might not activate - or at least not easily - the phone. Since this device uses a SIM, if you can get the SIM active in another phone you might be able to switch it to this.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on October 25, 2018, 08:31:04 AM
The cymbal LTE is a very slow responding phone. If you have a few hundred contacts, it will take at least 30 seconds every time you open the contacts in order for you to be able to search.
When you want to make a call, you cant just start typing the phone number. You have to open the dialer app and then dial and call its very annoying
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: mgarfin on October 25, 2018, 09:15:04 AM
I never used the Galaxy Folder to compare, but I own - not using much just as a toy... - a Cymbal-T and it is decent.

While the phone is sold as Tracfone Prepaid it seems to be fully compatible with Verizon's network, you gotta understand that Tracfone is just an MVNO using different carriers for different phone models, but you still might have a hard time to got Verizon to activater it (see https://www.frequencycheck.com/carrier-compatibility/7Nj1HV/zte-z353vl-cymbal-t-lte/verizon-wireless-united-states)

Other Verizon MVNOs should be good, correct?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on October 25, 2018, 09:21:13 AM
The cymbal LTE is a very slow responding phone. If you have a few hundred contacts, it will take at least 30 seconds every time you open the contacts in order for you to be able to search.
When you want to make a call, you cant just start typing the phone number. You have to open the dialer app and then dial and call its very annoying
which cymbal are you talking about?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on October 25, 2018, 09:24:25 AM
which cymbal are you talking about?
The Cymbal LTE. The one that looks like a feature phone
Not the cymbal -T
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on October 25, 2018, 10:28:10 AM
Other Verizon MVNOs should be good, correct?
In regard to supported bands, certainly. But might be the same problem with actually getting them to give you service for this IMEI
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 25, 2018, 11:07:46 AM
It seems that Tracfone doesn't offer unlimited talk plans. Does that make sense?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on October 25, 2018, 11:35:54 AM
It seems that Tracfone doesn't offer unlimited talk plans. Does that make sense?
Correct
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 25, 2018, 11:58:45 AM
Seems like you can get in vie Total Wireless as well. And they do offer unlimited plans.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on October 25, 2018, 02:22:43 PM
Seems like you can get in vie Total Wireless as well. And they do offer unlimited plans.
Total Wireless, which BTW is a TracFone company, and so is Page Plus, so you might get it to work on them as well...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 25, 2018, 02:56:06 PM
Total Wireless, which BTW is a TracFone company, and so is Page Plus, so you might get it to work on them as well...
Im saying that the phone is actually sold with total wireless prepaid service.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on November 18, 2018, 10:39:46 PM
lg exalt or Kyocera cadence from verizon? anyone have any experience with either one or how they compare?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on November 25, 2018, 03:47:54 AM
There's the Cymbal LTE and the Cymbal-T, 2 completely different devices. The first is a Verizon feature phone based on Android, the 2nd one is a Tracfone full Android filp-phone.

There is the Cymbal LTE:
(http://ensignal.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ztecymbal-555x555.png)

And this is the Cymbal-T:
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eZy9MCZsW50/V_fWWz6Mf2I/AAAAAAAAQAo/dY2CJfnNphkOUWLk-oKICVwrCSk-LCMPwCLcB/s1600/TracFone-ZTE-Cymbal.jpg)
So I got the Cymbal-T.

It's indeed running on the 4G network, but there's no option as far as I can tell to activate VoLTE.

In this case does it mean that in regards to phone calls, the phone will run on the 3G network? (which sucks...)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on November 25, 2018, 08:52:24 AM
I tried activating cymbal t too on Verizon. Only outbound voice worked. But inbound didn't work.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on November 25, 2018, 08:53:22 AM
So I got the Cymbal-T.

It's indeed running on the 4G network, but there's no option as far as I can tell to activate VoLTE.

In this case does it mean that in regards to phone calls, the phone will run on the 3G network? (which sucks...)
were you able to get inbound voice over 3g to work?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on November 25, 2018, 10:29:45 AM
were you able to get inbound voice over 3g to work?
I activated it over total wireless.

Have you activated it on this phone or you just took a working sim from other Verizon phone and inserted it into this phone?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on November 25, 2018, 11:39:52 AM
The later.
I tried giving vz the imei, they rejected it. So I just popped in the Sim...

What kind of plan do you have wiith total wireless?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on November 25, 2018, 01:23:39 PM
The later.
I tried giving vz the imei, they rejected it. So I just popped in the Sim...

What kind of plan do you have wiith total wireless?
unlimited talk and text. 5gb data
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on November 25, 2018, 02:52:49 PM
Price?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on November 25, 2018, 05:38:34 PM
Price?
$33+ tax
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: real-brisker on December 12, 2018, 11:42:29 AM
@ilherman - what's your feedback on the cymbal-t and with straight talk service?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on December 13, 2018, 03:59:18 PM
$33+ tax
If you buy the refill from Walmart you get 6gb for $35
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on December 14, 2018, 12:43:55 AM
@ilherman - what's your feedback on the cymbal-t and with straight talk service?
Not great. Seems like regular 3g.

You need VoLTE to get good service. So far I am not aware of any smart flip phone with VoLTE.

Waiting...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: pixi on January 17, 2019, 01:32:06 PM
Has anyone been able to get any smart flip phones to work with Verizon? (Galaxy Folder, LG Wine, ZTE Cymbal-T and so on)
Thanks
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on January 18, 2019, 09:38:49 AM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/return-of-the-razrwith-a-foldable-screen-and-1-500-price-11547643601?mod=e2twd

Not at all what I would like to see, but I guess there's a market for this.

There are a few elements to the flip phone that are desirable, not all are important to everyone

1. The clamshell form factor.
2. Physical keys.
3. Long life, durability and simplicity.

That being said, there are certain elements of today's smartphones that are hard to give up:

a. Contact synchronization.
b. Whatsapp communications.
c. Banking and financial transactions.
d. Multilingual support.
e. Maps and navigation.

Where do we strike a good balance?

KaiOS?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on March 04, 2019, 02:51:14 PM
https://www.thekosheros.com/kosher-os
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on March 04, 2019, 03:05:54 PM
https://www.thekosheros.com/kosher-os

Wrong thread!  >:( >:( >:(

None of the phones there are flip phones, or have any physical keypads!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on March 28, 2019, 09:23:27 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/03/28/billionaire-warren-buffett-a-major-apple-investor-uses-a-20-flip-phone.html

Why doesnt Apple get it. Make a flip iPhone with physical keys!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jeremiah on August 05, 2019, 12:13:50 AM
Any recommendations for a 4G flip phone to use with red pocket?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on August 05, 2019, 08:44:56 AM
Any recommendations for a 4G flip phone to use with red pocket?
Kyocera Dura?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on August 05, 2019, 10:00:29 AM
Any recommendations for a 4G flip phone to use with red pocket?
Red pocket works on all 4 carriers. You have to know if its red pocket Verizon, sprint, T-Mobile or att.

And if you are using a flip phone you probably dont use data. Then you have better options
The cheapest talk and text plan that I know of are
On the Verizon network u.s.mobile totals ~ $14
On the sprint network  tello ~ $10
On the AT&T network freeUp $10
On the T-Mobile network ultra mobile ~ $ 12
I wrote ~ because of the taxes vary from state to state
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jeremiah on August 05, 2019, 11:43:01 AM
Red pocket works on all 4 carriers. You have to know if its red pocket Verizon, sprint, T-Mobile or att.

And if you are using a flip phone you probably dont use data. Then you have better options
The cheapest talk and text plan that I know of are
On the Verizon network u.s.mobile totals ~ $14
On the sprint network  tello ~ $10
On the AT&T network freeUp $10
On the T-Mobile network ultra mobile ~ $ 12
I wrote ~ because of the taxes vary from state to state
Thanks. I'm ccurrently on redpocket verizon. Now for the phone recommendations....
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jeremiah on August 05, 2019, 11:48:54 AM
Kyocera Dura?
Seems too clunky.  How the software?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on August 05, 2019, 12:04:37 PM
any recommendations for a 4g flip phone that works with AT&T?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on August 05, 2019, 12:12:55 PM
any recommendations for a 4g flip phone that works with AT&T?
Unlocked verizon 4g flip phones work with AT&T but you may not get the best reception because they dont have all the AT&T bands
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on August 05, 2019, 12:34:49 PM
Unlocked verizon 4g flip phones work with AT&T but you may not get the best reception because they dont have all the AT&T bands
Thanks - is that the best option? Are there unlocked AT&T 4g phones out there?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on August 05, 2019, 06:40:04 PM
Thanks - is that the best option? Are there unlocked AT&T 4g phones out there?
Best Buy has now att 4g flip phone for $30 in store only
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on August 05, 2019, 07:49:37 PM
Best Buy has now att 4g flip phone for $30 in store only
cool! do you have a link to the phone? would it work with prepaid plans?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on August 05, 2019, 08:04:43 PM
cool! do you have a link to the phone? would it work with prepaid plans?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/at-t-prepaid-alcatel-cingular-flip-2-with-4gb-memory-prepaid-cell-phone-dark-gray/6265817.p?skuId=6265817 (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/at-t-prepaid-alcatel-cingular-flip-2-with-4gb-memory-prepaid-cell-phone-dark-gray/6265817.p?skuId=6265817) it is a prepaid Phone. Its not the best phone, people are complaining how slow the phone responds to the keys pressed but it works. I bought it to be used with a freeUp sim that is $10 a month talk and text and it worked right out of the box ( I had to connect the phone via WiFi in order to setup the phone and go through a tutorial ) pm me for a referral to freeUp
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on August 05, 2019, 08:16:44 PM
Any recommendations for a 4G flip phone to use with red pocket?
Why not use that silver flip phone that everyone's using with verizon. (the one that has no screen on the outside part of the flip).
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Definitions on August 05, 2019, 08:18:48 PM
Why not use that silver flip phone that everyone's using with verizon. (the one that has no screen on the outside part of the flip).
Lg exalt
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on August 05, 2019, 08:20:06 PM
https://koshercell.org/Kosher-Verizon-4g-Flip-Phone-LG-VN220-Exalt-p135906690
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on August 05, 2019, 08:30:47 PM
Kyocera vs LG Exalt

Kyocera pros:
T9 is kind of better, you get a full layout, vs switching by pressing the 0
You can open PDF files
Email attachment (Office Suite)
Hotspot without plan
Verizon cloud (sync contacts)
Texting while on phone call
Outside screen
Kyocera con:
No video recording/player

LG Exalt Pro:
Video recording/player
LG Exalt Con:
Switch words on T9 by pressing the 0 only
No PDF viewer
No Hotspot without plan
No Verizon cloud (sync contacts)
No Texting while on phone call (although there's workaround)
No Outside screen
.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 05, 2019, 08:42:31 PM
Kyocera vs LG Exalt

Kyocera pros:
T9 is kind of better, you get a full layout, vs switching by pressing the 0
You can open PDF files
Email attachment (Office Suite)
Hotspot without plan
Verizon cloud (sync contacts)
Texting while on phone call
Outside screen
Kyocera con:
No video recording/player

LG Exalt Pro:
Video recording/player
LG Exalt Con:
Switch words on T9 by pressing the 0 only
No PDF viewer
No Hotspot without plan
No Verizon cloud (sync contacts)
No Texting while on phone call (although there's workaround)
No Outside screen
Exalt syncs contacts IIRC.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on August 06, 2019, 07:06:03 AM
Exalt syncs contacts IIRC.
Correct.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 06, 2019, 08:38:30 AM
Correct.
Though, can said contact syncing (or transfer) be done without a Verizon account (trying to use on MVNO)?
Title: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: US on August 06, 2019, 11:51:39 AM
Though, can said contact syncing (or transfer) be done without a Verizon account (trying to use on MVNO)?
Ive done it on Verizon prepaid service without any account.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: th0306 on August 18, 2019, 11:36:33 AM
Red pocket works on all 4 carriers. You have to know if its red pocket Verizon, sprint, T-Mobile or att.

And if you are using a flip phone you probably dont use data. Then you have better options
The cheapest talk and text plan that I know of are
On the Verizon network u.s.mobile totals ~ $14
On the sprint network  tello ~ $10
On the AT&T network freeUp $10
On the T-Mobile network ultra mobile ~ $ 12
I wrote ~ because of the taxes vary from state to state
This plan requires restarting after every 2000 minutes used - in middle of the month, no?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 18, 2019, 01:25:02 PM
This plan requires restarting after every 2000 minutes used - in middle of the month, no?

No. My son just got it. That's their price for unlimited talk and text monthly.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on August 18, 2019, 02:28:10 PM
This plan requires restarting after every 2000 minutes used - in middle of the month, no?
You are correct. A quick online chat fixes that issue.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: th0306 on August 18, 2019, 04:08:45 PM
You are correct. A quick online chat fixes that issue.

After the service stops?
Title: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on August 18, 2019, 04:20:53 PM
After the service stops?
Yes
When you see that you cant make calls or text , you contact them and they restart your allotment
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: th0306 on August 18, 2019, 05:09:06 PM
Yes
When you see that you cant make calls or text , you contact them and they restart your allotment
Which means I can miss calls without realizing.....
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 18, 2019, 05:27:55 PM
This plan requires restarting after every 2000 minutes used - in middle of the month, no?

You are correct. A quick online chat fixes that issue.

Where do you see that?

This is what I see:

(https://i.imgur.com/d6wiKy9.png)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: th0306 on August 22, 2019, 09:48:42 PM
Red pocket works on all 4 carriers. You have to know if its red pocket Verizon, sprint, T-Mobile or att.

And if you are using a flip phone you probably dont use data. Then you have better options
The cheapest talk and text plan that I know of are
On the Verizon network u.s.mobile totals ~ $14
On the sprint network  tello ~ $10
On the AT&T network freeUp $10
On the T-Mobile network ultra mobile ~ $ 12
I wrote ~ because of the taxes vary from state to state
Did U.S. Mobile just change all their plans?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on August 22, 2019, 09:59:36 PM
Quote

The cheapest talk and text plan that I know of are
On the Verizon network u.s.mobile totals ~ $14
On the sprint network  tello ~ $10
On the AT&T network freeUp $10
On the T-Mobile network ultra mobile ~ $ 12
do any of these include canada?
Title: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on August 22, 2019, 11:12:57 PM
Did U.S. Mobile just change all their plans?
Yup going up to $20 plus tax
For $10 you get 1000 minutes

I think now the cheapest on Verizon will be red pocket mobile annual plan bought on ebay or amazon . Totals around $18 a month

do any of these include canada?
Tello and ultra Mobile include calls to Canada. But not roaming in Canada.
Ultra you can add extra money to be able to roam . Iirc its .25 per minute
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 23, 2019, 12:06:31 AM
Did U.S. Mobile just change all their plans?

Looks like it. Does it change for existing customers, or are they grandfathered?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on August 23, 2019, 01:32:46 PM
Looks like it. Does it change for existing customers, or are they grandfathered?

Here's the answer:

Quote
First of all, thank you for being a part of the US Mobile family. Were writing to let you know that the cost of the unlimited talk and text plan will be increasing by $10/month. This will apply to all monthly plans beginning August 22, 2019.

96% of our customers use less than 1,000 minutes of talk per month. Your bill can remain the same if you switch to our new "1,000 minutes and unlimited text" plan. So take a look at our plans to decide what you need before your next cycle.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on August 24, 2019, 11:28:09 PM
For those who want to stick to the Verizon network. The cheapest now is pixwireless $15 unlimited talk and text 500mb data
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on August 24, 2019, 11:35:21 PM
For those who want to stick to the Verizon network. The cheapest now is pixwireless $15 unlimited talk and text 500mb data
I'm getting exactly that from redpocket for $19.
How does pixwireless customer service compare to redpocket?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on August 24, 2019, 11:35:57 PM
I'm getting exactly that from redpocket for $19.
How does pixwireless customer service compare to redpocket?
I have no experience with them.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on August 24, 2019, 11:36:58 PM
does it work on a 3G phone?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on August 24, 2019, 11:38:03 PM
does it work on a 3G phone?
No You cant activate a 3g device on the Verizon network regardless of the MVNO name.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on August 24, 2019, 11:46:37 PM
No You cant activate a 3g device on the Verizon network regardless of the MVNO name.
I have a 3G phone with redpocket verion right now
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on August 24, 2019, 11:48:05 PM
I have a 3G phone with redpocket verion right now
When was it activated ?
You cant activate new lines as of 2 months ago.
Officially all 3g phones on Verizon will stop working at the end of this year.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on September 08, 2019, 07:32:15 PM
https://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-flip-phone-returns-plus-nokia-7-2-is-out-with-whopping-48mp-triple-camera/
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on September 08, 2019, 11:51:41 PM
https://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-flip-phone-returns-plus-nokia-7-2-is-out-with-whopping-48mp-triple-camera/
Can it be kosherized?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: aygart on September 09, 2019, 09:31:56 AM
Can it be kosherized?
I can't imagine we will know until after it is released unless Nokia is working with the tech organizations. It would be a smart thing to do since that is probably a large portion of the flip phone market.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on September 09, 2019, 10:04:22 AM
I can't imagine we will know until after it is released unless Nokia is working with the tech organizations. It would be a smart thing to do since that is probably a large portion of the flip phone market.
It uses KaiOS, which is Android-based-but-extremely-slimmed-down-and-closed. And at the moment there is no way to kosherize any KaiOS AFAIK.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: aygart on September 09, 2019, 10:10:43 AM
It uses KaiOS, which is Android-based-but-extremely-slimmed-down-and-closed. And at the moment there is no way to kosherize any KaiOS AFAIK.
What does the LG Exalt use?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on September 09, 2019, 10:21:58 AM
What does the LG Exalt use?
Its own Android-based build, same with the Kyocera flip.

A popular KaiOS phone is the Alcatel Go Flip which I don't think has any kosherizing solution yet.

The difference - and why it might be tougher to accomplish it with KaiOS - is that is not really Android-based, it is Linux based and they try to make some stuff compatible but it is a whole different Animal (unlike the LG and Kyocera devices that are pure Android just sliimed down and restricted.)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on September 09, 2019, 12:04:51 PM
https://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-flip-phone-returns-plus-nokia-7-2-is-out-with-whopping-48mp-triple-camera/

https://www.clove.co.uk/products/nokia-2720-flip-4g?variant=21381624758331
Though base on https://nokiapoweruser.com/nokia-800-tough-specifications-release-date-photos-price-more/ I would be afraid that it might not include US bands.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: grodnoking on September 11, 2019, 04:05:04 PM
Looking for a flip phone that runs on full android (and can handle an android filter like netspark). Dont want to spend 400 on a samsung folder. Any cheaper options?
And has to work on verizon (cdma)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on September 11, 2019, 04:08:58 PM
Looking for a flip phone that runs on full android (and can handle an android filter like netspark). Dont want to spend 400 on a samsung folder. Any cheaper options?
And has to work on verizon (cdma)
I believe that such a product does not exist. There is no such phone (even for $400 or more...) that is officially Verizon compatible.

The closest is the TracFone ZTE Cymbal-T LTE Android Flip.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: nanach09 on September 12, 2019, 05:39:31 PM
I believe that such a product does not exist. There is no such phone (even for $400 or more...) that is officially Verizon compatible.

The closest is the TracFone ZTE Cymbal-T LTE Android Flip.
Is it possible to have Whatsapp on the ZTE Cymbal-T?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: zh cohen on September 12, 2019, 06:29:20 PM
Are there any non-smart phone's (flip or otherwise) that can
1- Sync Google contacts (at least when it's first set up)
2 - browser can be blocked

My service is Cricket
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on September 12, 2019, 06:42:07 PM
Are there any non-smart phone's (flip or otherwise) that can
1- Sync Google contacts (at least when it's first set up)
2 - browser can be blocked

My service is Cricket
I know you have cricket
But verizon 4g flip phones sync their contacts with google
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on September 12, 2019, 07:04:04 PM
https://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-flip-phone-returns-plus-nokia-7-2-is-out-with-whopping-48mp-triple-camera/

I am so sick of smartphones. This can't come soon enough. Just make sure it is a global phone and supports Hebrew/Yiddish input (and browser/Facebook/Instagram apps can be removed or blocked), and it's a winner.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on September 12, 2019, 07:11:06 PM
Is it possible to have Whatsapp on the ZTE Cymbal-T?
ZTE Cymbal-T is a full Android phone.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: cozmohoot on September 12, 2019, 07:21:49 PM
Its own Android-based build, same with the Kyocera flip.

A popular KaiOS phone is the Alcatel Go Flip which I don't think has any kosherizing solution yet.

The difference - and why it might be tougher to accomplish it with KaiOS - is that is not really Android-based, it is Linux based and they try to make some stuff compatible but it is a whole different Animal (unlike the LG and Kyocera devices that are pure Android just sliimed down and restricted.)
From tag website.

Alcatel Go Flip, or Flip 2 Specific models only! 4044O 4044L, 4044W, 4044C
Can be made Kosher with a custom Operating System
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on September 19, 2019, 06:38:11 PM
Finally some official US ones...

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tcl-communication-announces-the-alcatel-go-flip-3-and-alcatel-smartflip-the-first-flip-phones-with-google-assistant-300921090.html with an official Metro/T-Mobile and AT&T.

It's also KaiOS like the aforementioned Nokia.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: eli1571 on September 19, 2019, 08:09:32 PM
What's a good and cheap CDMA dumb phone for talk and text ?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: sguitarist18 on September 22, 2019, 10:17:08 AM
LG exalt seems to be out of stock everywhere I look...any news on this?

Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about the Sonims Xp5s? Yes, I know it's not a flip phone, but I don't see another thread on DDF for basic non-flip phones.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Eliyohu on September 23, 2019, 09:28:28 AM
https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2019/9/23/20879591/google-android-feature-phone-leaked-video-nokia-assistant#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24sl
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Definitions on September 23, 2019, 10:14:43 AM
Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about the Sonims Xp5s? Yes, I know it's not a flip phone, but I don't see another thread on DDF for basic non-flip phones.
I've had one before. I don't know if it was the same exact model.

They are huge. Right when I got it I returned it. It was way too big for me.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on September 24, 2019, 02:35:47 PM


A popular KaiOS phone is the Alcatel Go Flip which I don't think has any kosherizing solution yet.


So the Alcatel Go Flip can also have whats app and other apps while having 4G VoLTE?

So whats so exiting about the new Nokia?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on September 24, 2019, 02:41:45 PM
https://www.clove.co.uk/products/nokia-2720-flip-4g?variant=21381624758331
Though base on https://nokiapoweruser.com/nokia-800-tough-specifications-release-date-photos-price-more/ I would be afraid that it might not include US bands.
You got the wrong link. Here is the link for the Nokia 2720.
https://nokiapoweruser.com/nokia-2720-flip-4g-specifications-release-date-photos-price-more/

How would I know if it supports VoLTE in the US?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on September 24, 2019, 02:58:37 PM
You got the wrong link. Here is the link for the Nokia 2720.
https://nokiapoweruser.com/nokia-2720-flip-4g-specifications-release-date-photos-price-more/

How would I know if it supports VoLTE in the US?
I was aware that the link is for a different phone. The 2720 and the 800 tough are being released concurrently with similar software.

What makes you think there's a US version being released. From what I see there isn't one yet, so I doubt whether it will support VoLTE (or all US LTE bands for that matter) at this point, which is rather sad. I really can't understand why they don't release truly global phones like the iPhone, Google phones, and several Motorola phones.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on September 24, 2019, 03:29:20 PM
I believe that such a product does not exist. There is no such phone (even for $400 or more...) that is officially Verizon compatible.

The closest is the TracFone ZTE Cymbal-T LTE Android Flip.
Why only close? It runs on the Verizon network. Will full android. However after using it one day I realized that it does not support VoLTE, which is what we all so desperately need.

Is there ANY flip phone which supports whatsapp while supporting VoLTE? Either CDMA or GSM carriers.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on September 24, 2019, 03:34:50 PM
So the Alcatel Go Flip can also have whats app and other apps while having 4G VoLTE?

So whats so exiting about the new Nokia?
No, it does not support Whatsapp.
Why only close? It runs on the Verizon network. Will full android. However after using it one day I realized that it does not support VoLTE, which is what we all so desperately need.

Is there ANY flip phone which supports whatsapp while supporting VoLTE? Either CDMA or GSM carriers.
Only close, because it is not an official "Verizon" phone (and probably can have issues getting Verizon to activate it, maybe depending on where you get t from.)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on September 24, 2019, 03:37:56 PM
I was aware that the link is for a different phone. The 2720 and the 800 tough are being released concurrently with similar software.

What makes you think there's a US version being released. From what I see there isn't one yet, so I doubt whether it will support VoLTE (or all US LTE bands for that matter) at this point, which is rather sad. I really can't understand why they don't release truly global phones like the iPhone, Google phones, and several Motorola phones.
Missed this?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 02, 2019, 10:53:09 AM
Missed this?
Meant to quote him...

Finally some official US ones...

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tcl-communication-announces-the-alcatel-go-flip-3-and-alcatel-smartflip-the-first-flip-phones-with-google-assistant-300921090.html with an official Metro/T-Mobile and AT&T.

It's also KaiOS like the aforementioned Nokia.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 02, 2019, 04:20:29 PM
Ordered the smart flip. Will report back when I get it how it is. Sounds like it has everything i was waiting got the past few years. If only it will work well....
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ah giten on October 02, 2019, 04:32:05 PM
Ordered the smart flip. Will report back when I get it how it is. Sounds like it has everything i was waiting got the past few years. If only it will work well....
will it work in US?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on October 02, 2019, 04:48:53 PM
Ordered the smart flip. Will report back when I get it how it is. Sounds like it has everything i was waiting got the past few years. If only it will work well....

Let us know how it works. Also need to know if it can be unlocked and used in Israel.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on October 02, 2019, 05:09:04 PM
Ordered the smart flip. Will report back when I get it how it is. Sounds like it has everything i was waiting got the past few years. If only it will work well....
from where? att?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 02, 2019, 05:33:56 PM
from where? att?
Ye att
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on October 02, 2019, 05:54:52 PM
Ye att

That's the only place it seems to be available now. Not showing up con Cricket website.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on October 02, 2019, 07:15:52 PM
Ordered the smart flip. Will report back when I get it how it is. Sounds like it has everything i was waiting got the past few years. If only it will work well....
Which phone exactly are you referring to?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 02, 2019, 08:15:51 PM
Which phone exactly are you referring to?
Alcatel SMARTFLIP

Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: sguitarist18 on October 02, 2019, 08:58:55 PM
OK, got the Kyocera...and let me put it this way - if I were to write a review, not sure if it would belong here or in the "jokes" thread. The first nd most obvious thing is the predictive text - in what world does typing in 2-6-3 have the phone come up with "cod" as being more likely than "and?" And if there's a 1-letter word that I can get by typing the "2" key...yup, you got it, the most likely guess by the Kyocera is the word..."b"!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on October 02, 2019, 09:19:11 PM
Alcatel SMARTFLIP
Does it have Waze?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: EliJelly on October 02, 2019, 09:59:46 PM
Alcatel SMARTFLIP
Blockable by TAG Meshimer etc.?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: grodnoking on October 02, 2019, 10:04:38 PM
Does it have Waze?
Definitely google maps
Blockable by TAG Meshimer etc.?
I dont think so.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: grodnoking on October 02, 2019, 10:26:53 PM
Does it have Waze?
So, under the Social media we have:

Facebook
Twitter

Under the Utilities we have:

Counter
Google Assistant
Google Maps
Google Search
Kai Weather
QR Reader
To-Do
Weather
Horoscope

Under the Games category we have:

2048
Astro Knot
Birdy
Castle of Magic
Coin Grab
Crazy eggs
Cuby Zap
Danger Dash
Dodgy
Drawsum
Falling Through
Flexi Snake
Fly Safe
Gems
Grumpy Gorilla
Guardians
Ice Breaker
Jimbo Jump
Monsters Burn Too
Nitro Street: Drag Mode
Nitro Street Run 2
Plan.ET
Puzzle Pets Memory
Real Football Runner
Rock the Dock
Siberian Strike
Sokoban
Stack Building
Twin Hop
Watch the Walls
Whackamole

Under the Sports category we have:
Flashscore

And under the Video category there's
Youtube

Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ADG on October 03, 2019, 03:40:00 PM
i still have my basic flip phone. and i text with T9, which probably makes me the fastest texter in the world!!  ;) ;)

Can you elaborate on the the phone and tech you are referring to?

If ppl can share links of recommended hardware that would be helpful

Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on October 03, 2019, 06:28:50 PM
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/meet-the-millennial-whos-sworn-off-her-smartphone-for-12-months-for-100000-and-why-she-wont-go-back-to-one-2019-10-03?mod=mw_theo_homepage
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 06, 2019, 03:37:27 AM
Got the phone on Friday. Will elaborate  more tomorrow.

On the first glance its not impressive.

Max 2000 contacts so it couldn't sync all my google contacts. When you are on a call you can not access any other screen / app like text email or whats app.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on October 06, 2019, 12:11:52 PM
Got the phone on Friday. Will elaborate  more tomorrow.

On the first glance its not impressive.

Max 2000 contacts so it couldn't sync all my google contacts. When you are on a call you can not access any other screen / app like text email or whats app.
Does it have whatsapp? Can you install apk?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on October 06, 2019, 12:20:32 PM
Does it have whatsapp? Can you install apk?

Also, can Facebook be removed? Any way to get Hebrew/Yiddish input (even if only with Google Assistant voice recognition?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 06, 2019, 08:09:11 PM
Also, can Facebook be removed? Any way to get Hebrew/Yiddish input (even if only with Google Assistant voice recognition?
facebook does not come factory installedi dont see an option for hebrew
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 06, 2019, 08:09:33 PM
Does it have whatsapp? Can you install apk?
yes for whatsapp dont know what apk is
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on October 06, 2019, 08:11:28 PM
yes for whatsapp dont know what apk is
Can you make whatsapp voice calls?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 06, 2019, 10:30:27 PM
Can you make whatsapp voice calls?
No
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on October 06, 2019, 10:33:21 PM
Not sure how dumb the architect of this job had to be to figure out that once I'm at a certain contract let's say it starts with letter Z, there's no way to get back to the search field other by wasting 15 minutes to move up to the top of the contacts
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: nucheiner on October 22, 2019, 10:28:41 PM
Can the Kyocera Cadence Verizon Prepaid phone be used for Sprint?
I tried putting in a postpaid Sprint Sim but Sprint says they are unable to activate it. I do have the unlock code already despite that I haven't been active for 60 days (or $50). Perhaps I need to wait it out even though I already have unlock code.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on October 23, 2019, 12:04:04 AM
Can the Kyocera Cadence Verizon Prepaid phone be used for Sprint?
I tried putting in a postpaid Sprint Sim but Sprint says they are unable to activate it. I do have the unlock code already despite that I haven't been active for 60 days (or $50). Perhaps I need to wait it out even though I already have unlock code.
i bought this phone unlocked and was told by the seller it cannot be used for sprint or verizon post paid but not sure if that was my specific phone or all of them
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MosheD on November 03, 2019, 01:56:30 PM
Looking for recs on a basic phone + service (talk n text)
Cant match up what goes with what and it seems it is difficult to get a cheap basic phone over here
Thanks
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: grodnoking on November 03, 2019, 02:39:51 PM
Looking for recs on a basic phone + service (talk n text)
Cant match up what goes with what and it seems it is difficult to get a cheap basic phone over here
Thanks
How basic do you want to go? You can get a blue phone for $20, and it has no access to data whatsoever so you can put whatever sim you want in it and itll still be t&t
Edit. I see you can get from amazon for 16.60. But doesnt even have a full keyboard or t9
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MosheD on November 03, 2019, 03:23:14 PM
i see that but there is a big warning that it does not work on like 80% of us networks.

Do you know of a cheap plan that goes with it.
Ideally id like t9
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Definitions on November 03, 2019, 07:13:52 PM
i see that but there is a big warning that it does not work on like 80% of us networks.

Do you know of a cheap plan that goes with it.
Ideally id like t9
Which phone are you talking about?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Essen est zich on November 03, 2019, 08:16:31 PM
Is there anyway for purchasing the Alcatel go flip 3 phone that's unlocked?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 08, 2019, 01:08:33 PM
I can unlock the Go Flip 3 and make it kosher.


www.kosherfone.com
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 08, 2019, 01:39:09 PM
Got the phone on Friday. Will elaborate  more tomorrow.

On the first glance its not impressive.

Max 2000 contacts so it couldn't sync all my google contacts. When you are on a call you can not access any other screen / app like text email or whats app.

I can fix all that, its a  easy fix. I built most of the kosher softwares people use like the Kyocera from Approved Link or the Alcatel 4044 from Tag.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 08, 2019, 01:45:18 PM
https://www.clove.co.uk/products/nokia-2720-flip-4g?variant=21381624758331
Though base on https://nokiapoweruser.com/nokia-800-tough-specifications-release-date-photos-price-more/ I would be afraid that it might not include US bands.

This phone has been made kosher for over 1 year by me, some guy in Lakewood has been selling it for about a year.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 08, 2019, 01:47:54 PM
facebook does not come factory installedi dont see an option for hebrew

I will be adding hebrew to it in a few more weeks.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on November 08, 2019, 02:13:34 PM
This phone has been made kosher for over 1 year by me, some guy in Lakewood has been selling it for about a year.

Huh? I don't think the phone was released that far back.

I would love to see an unlocked JIOPhone 2 that will work on US (and Israeli) networks and have Hebrew available. That could be a game changer.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 08, 2019, 02:32:40 PM
Huh? I don't think the phone was released that far back.

I would love to see an unlocked JIOPhone 2 that will work on US (and Israeli) networks and have Hebrew available. That could be a game changer.

It has been, I built the software for it along with hebrew as well. I just finished the new Go Flip 3 and working on adding hebrew to it.

Edit sorry I was talking about the Go Flip came out 1 yr ago
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 08, 2019, 02:37:19 PM
BTW Anyone looking for a Verizon flip kosher or talk and text? I just finished the Alcatel Go Flip V for verizon. Tag locations can flash it kosher for you. I built that software as well.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: EliJelly on November 08, 2019, 04:23:01 PM
BTW Anyone looking for a Verizon flip kosher or talk and text? I just finished the Alcatel Go Flip V for verizon. Tag locations can flash it kosher for you. I built that software as well.
Finally we got an expert here. I have the LG Exalt LTE with a Verizon plan and it sucks, no front screen, loses service as entering a house and of course the inability of doing anything while on a call, I'm not familiar with kyocera or alectel, what is the best option for me without the above bugs?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 10, 2019, 05:18:36 PM
Finally we got an expert here. I have the LG Exalt LTE with a Verizon plan and it sucks, no front screen, loses service as entering a house and of course the inability of doing anything while on a call, I'm not familiar with kyocera or alectel, what is the best option for me without the above bugs?

So it looks like you have poor service with Verizon, if Verizon offers wifi calling you can try the Alcatel V from Verizon, its been made kosher by me and Tag has the ability to flash it Kosher for you.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on November 10, 2019, 06:51:45 PM
what gonna be with sprint? no decent phone for them. all they have is used 3g phones. nothing normal from them (alcatel 4g phone from them is garbage)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: EliJelly on November 10, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
So it looks like you have poor service with Verizon, if Verizon offers wifi calling you can try the Alcatel V from Verizon, its been made kosher by me and Tag has the ability to flash it Kosher for you.
What are the cons of the Alcatel V over the Exalt?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on November 10, 2019, 09:13:07 PM
what gonna be with sprint? no decent phone for them. all they have is used 3g phones. nothing normal from them (alcatel 4g phone from them is garbage)
I think sprint will stop allowing 3g phones.
I was trying to activate a 3g phone on tello and they rejected it. Saying that its a 3g phone and sprint does not allow it anymore on their network
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Eliyohu on November 10, 2019, 11:48:31 PM
I think sprint will stop allowing 3g phones.
I was trying to activate a 3g phone on tello and they rejected it. Saying that its a 3g phone and sprint does not allow it anymore on their network
Iirc a few months ago they sent me an email asking the lines that my current 3g phone on tello I have will stay fine but I can't do a new activation ... So make sure I don't deactivate the current one...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on November 13, 2019, 01:09:34 AM
I think sprint will stop allowing 3g phones.
I was trying to activate a 3g phone on tello and they rejected it. Saying that its a 3g phone and sprint does not allow it anymore on their network
Wing still works
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on November 13, 2019, 01:10:08 AM
Any idea about the quality of the sprint Coolpad snap?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on November 13, 2019, 10:43:50 AM
Wing still works
For new activations ?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on November 14, 2019, 08:29:02 AM
The new Motorola Razr 2019 was announced yesterday.

Sounds pretty cool.

(https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/QCpoJwTUHrNhBkUCaK9d5R2DVgySliSRHlIz26oncyUpiC0E-eO-4L-JO0j2FKY1OH0I8wA13NKVn-lqrpecVOpXLFYTWMVwFnGUPAkLEeDtsrNlBrVDRC9PYBaBsA=s0-d-e1-ft#https://image.motorola-mail.com/lib/fe901272716d077b74/m/19/no-matte-dt.gif)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: zh cohen on November 14, 2019, 07:10:02 PM
Is there any way to have
the Alcatel 4044
with the browser removed but still have email?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on November 14, 2019, 07:15:36 PM
The new Motorola Razr 2019 was announced yesterday.

Sounds pretty cool.
Is this a smartphone?

(https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/QCpoJwTUHrNhBkUCaK9d5R2DVgySliSRHlIz26oncyUpiC0E-eO-4L-JO0j2FKY1OH0I8wA13NKVn-lqrpecVOpXLFYTWMVwFnGUPAkLEeDtsrNlBrVDRC9PYBaBsA=s0-d-e1-ft#https://image.motorola-mail.com/lib/fe901272716d077b74/m/19/no-matte-dt.gif)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: good sam on November 18, 2019, 12:01:22 AM
The new Motorola Razr 2019 was announced yesterday.

Sounds pretty cool.

(https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/QCpoJwTUHrNhBkUCaK9d5R2DVgySliSRHlIz26oncyUpiC0E-eO-4L-JO0j2FKY1OH0I8wA13NKVn-lqrpecVOpXLFYTWMVwFnGUPAkLEeDtsrNlBrVDRC9PYBaBsA=s0-d-e1-ft#https://image.motorola-mail.com/lib/fe901272716d077b74/m/19/no-matte-dt.gif)
The new Motorola Razr is $1,500 but OMG I must have it

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/14/tech/motorola-razr-review/index.html
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on November 29, 2019, 02:25:07 PM
My old sprint phone just went out last night its a rumor reflex s and it wont leave the loading screen, has anyone had a similar experience or any ideas what to do (yes i already took out the battery a few times, left it off for a while and pressed every button :) ). Otherwise whats the best option if i cant get a new 3g phone
I think sprint will stop allowing 3g phones.
I was trying to activate a 3g phone on tello and they rejected it. Saying that its a 3g phone and sprint does not allow it anymore on their network
is this it
nothing normal from them (alcatel 4g phone from them is garbage)
?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 15, 2019, 11:14:45 AM
still looking for an unlocked / at&t 4g flip phone if anyone has one they can recommend
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on December 20, 2019, 12:12:27 AM
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on December 28, 2019, 11:35:50 PM
For lack of better option (i thought) i got the alcatel go/smart flip but it was terrible and i am returning it after 3 weeks of use. I would like to right a review so no one has to deal with it.  I didn't notice any pros, the good parts were when it wasn't acting up. The cons were many, 1) there are more steps than necessary in doing many tasks 2) searching for contacts is impossible, when you search for contact starting with the letter M it doesn't do that, rather it brings up the first contact that has an M (eg instead of bringing up Max it will bring up Adam), which is beyond frustrating 3) there is no general contact history so you cannot see the last time someone called you except by scrolling through the call log 4) when typing using T9 the system constantly sticks in random numbers 5) if you dont restart it once a day everything will work much slower or malfunction (eg doesn't pick up calls when you flip it open). These were my biggest frustrations but there were more, overall it is not a good phone and i would not recommend it even for a purely talk phone.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Shmobaum on December 29, 2019, 03:25:16 AM
Any idea about the quality of the sprint Coolpad snap?

I have it on the Tello network. Works great!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on January 22, 2020, 05:47:11 PM
I just had someone stop by my office who has the Light Phone II.

Pretty remarkable piece. His reasoning for getting it was the only 4g non-smartphone with a full qwerty (on-screen) keyboard.

https://www.thelightphone.com/
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Sammy82 on January 22, 2020, 07:06:50 PM
I just had someone stop by my office who has the Light Phone II.

Pretty remarkable piece. His reasoning for getting it was the only 4g non-smartphone with a full qwerty (on-screen) keyboard.

https://www.thelightphone.com/
Hopefully the phone works better than their website. Website not loading on my phone.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on January 22, 2020, 07:42:24 PM
I just had someone stop by my office who has the Light Phone II.

Pretty remarkable piece. His reasoning for getting it was the only 4g non-smartphone with a full qwerty (on-screen) keyboard.

https://www.thelightphone.com/
Can have apps? Whats app?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on January 22, 2020, 08:27:33 PM
Can have apps? Whats app?

No, only what they provide. They say it will never have any social media. Does that mean it will never have Whatsapp? Possibly.

Quote
What are the features?
Out of the box, the Light Phone II's core functionality includes calls, messages as well as an alarm and hotspot.

There is a customizable toolbox menu for the phone in which you can add/remove various additional features to your Light Phone II. These tools are in development and will be released ongoing as they become available. We're working closely with our early adopters to design these tools.

While considering additional functionality for the Light Phone II, it's important to remember all of the features it will never have. The Light Phone II will never have social media, email, news, or ads. Our tools are intentional, and there is a clear objective in opening the tool. There will never be an infinite feed. The device itself, with a small black and white screen, reflects this philosphy and inherently limits the phone's functionality.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on January 22, 2020, 08:28:03 PM
waze?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on January 22, 2020, 08:28:49 PM
waze?

On an e-ink screen?  ::)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on January 22, 2020, 08:36:39 PM
On an e-ink screen?  ::)
I know people who want smartphones just to have waze
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on January 22, 2020, 09:37:09 PM
I know people who want smartphones just to have waze
So they want a smartphone, not a light phone.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on January 22, 2020, 10:10:23 PM
I know people who want smartphones just to have waze
Its being sold in Lakewood and Brooklyn
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: avrohomgelb on January 23, 2020, 07:18:57 AM
I just had someone stop by my office who has the Light Phone II.

Pretty remarkable piece. His reasoning for getting it was the only 4g non-smartphone with a full qwerty (on-screen) keyboard.

https://www.thelightphone.com/
$350!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: avrohomgelb on January 23, 2020, 07:21:08 AM
I'm looking for a gsm unlocked (compatible with Israeli carriers) basic phone, with hotspot capability for my laptop
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: avrohomgelb on January 23, 2020, 07:33:35 AM
After a little google search seems like Nokia 3310 may be ideal, anyone have it?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on January 23, 2020, 07:33:50 AM
$350!

It's a Brooklyn based company. They have to pay Brooklyn rent and wages!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: avrohomgelb on January 23, 2020, 07:54:28 AM
It's a Brooklyn based company. They have to pay Brooklyn rent and wages!
They must paying employees parking tickets as well
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: sillypainter on January 23, 2020, 09:31:19 AM
I know people who want smartphones just to have waze

They can get a Mehadrin GPS. No monthly fees, works worldwide.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on January 23, 2020, 10:59:15 AM
They must paying employees parking tickets Citi bike memberships as well

FTFY
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on January 26, 2020, 09:00:13 PM
Has anyone used wingalpha.com?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on January 26, 2020, 09:01:40 PM
Has anyone used wingalpha.com?
I have friends on it
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on January 26, 2020, 09:06:39 PM
I have friends on it
Any idea if they are happy with it? Pros/cons? The prices seem great.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on January 26, 2020, 09:08:12 PM
Tello is cheaper

They use sprint network.
They reason they are on it. Is because at the time they switched over to , wing was the cheapest.
No pros or cons.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on January 26, 2020, 09:09:43 PM
Tello is cheaper

They use sprint network.
They reason they are on it. Is because at the time they switched over to , wing was the cheapest.
No pros or cons.
:)
I can't use Sprint in my area. I chatted with Wing and they said they use AT&T now.

I guess if they hated it there would be a con...

Thanks!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jeremiah on January 31, 2020, 08:37:32 AM
Any recommendations for a flip phone that can be used with tello? I find that most sprint 4g flip phones are extremely slow
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Toasted on February 06, 2020, 03:40:01 PM
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/razr

FULLY REVIVED at $1500.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Definitions on February 17, 2020, 02:16:20 PM
Any recommendations for a flip phone that can be used with tello? I find that most sprint 4g flip phones are extremely slow
Looking for one too. Doesn't matter if it's slow
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Definitions on February 17, 2020, 02:18:04 PM
I know people who want smartphones just to have waze
I know someone that just made exactly that. He's still having it touched up to close loopholes. But it's basically finished.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on February 17, 2020, 02:28:44 PM
I know someone that just made exactly that. He's still having it touched up to close loopholes. But it's basically finished.
nice!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: how on February 17, 2020, 02:31:46 PM
I know someone that just made exactly that. He's still having it touched up to close loopholes. But it's basically finished.
Mehadrin GPS?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Definitions on February 17, 2020, 05:01:59 PM
Mehadrin GPS?
No
But same idea
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on February 17, 2020, 10:25:12 PM
I know someone that just made exactly that. He's still having it touched up to close loopholes. But it's basically finished.
whats details?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Iz on February 18, 2020, 03:58:01 PM
Looking for a phone that can have text enabled or disabled by TAG. They say the only model that it can be done on is the LG 220. It is quite expensive on Amazon. Any better place to buy it? Or any other suggestions? Thanks.

ETA: Is this the best thread for this question?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on February 19, 2020, 02:09:43 AM
Looking for a phone that can have text enabled or disabled by TAG. They say the only model that it can be done on is the LG 220. It is quite expensive on Amazon. Any better place to buy it? Or any other suggestions? Thanks.

ETA: Is this the best thread for this question?
Following, would like one as well.
 The https://www.verizonwireless.com/basic-phones/kyocera-cadence-lte/
 Works good as well and can be found for a bit cheaper online and was told some Verizon stores still have this available.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Iz on February 19, 2020, 05:31:28 AM
Following, would like one as well.
 The https://www.verizonwireless.com/basic-phones/kyocera-cadence-lte/ (https://www.verizonwireless.com/basic-phones/kyocera-cadence-lte/)
 Works good as well and can be found for a bit cheaper online and was told some Verizon stores still have this available.
However, on this one Tag charges $35 to disable, so the price difference isn't that great anymore.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Sammy82 on February 19, 2020, 08:01:01 AM
Any dumb phones out there that could still connect to Google, specifically to download (and hopefully sync) my contacts? Preferably with Verizon.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Iz on February 19, 2020, 09:09:22 AM
Following, would like one as well.
 The https://www.verizonwireless.com/basic-phones/kyocera-cadence-lte/ (https://www.verizonwireless.com/basic-phones/kyocera-cadence-lte/)
 Works good as well and can be found for a bit cheaper online and was told some Verizon stores still have this available.
The Kyocera does not have the ability to reinstate texting after it has been disabled.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on February 19, 2020, 09:23:24 AM
Could someone please explain to me the problem with texting. Why is it unacceptable?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on February 19, 2020, 10:08:51 AM
Any dumb phones out there that could still connect to Google, specifically to download (and hopefully sync) my contacts? Preferably with Verizon.
No.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on February 19, 2020, 10:10:54 AM
No.
Unless he calls a blackberry classic or Q10 a dumb phone then yes.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on February 19, 2020, 10:11:42 AM
The Kyocera does not have the ability to reinstate texting after it has been disabled.
Seems like you're a bit knowledgeable in this area, if one goes ahead and put the filter to block the internet on that phone does everything else work properly?
   
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on February 19, 2020, 10:12:06 AM
Could someone please explain to me the problem with texting. Why is it unacceptable?
Why do you think it's UNACCEPTABLE? It's mostly a גדר some people take in themselves to be farther from technological things.

(There is however an issue some point out that in text it's much less shameful to communicate inappropriately than there is over the phone.)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on February 19, 2020, 10:14:06 AM
Seems like you're a bit knowledgeable in this area, if one goes ahead and put the filter to block the internet on that phone does everything else work properly?
 
You should be more detailed what you include in "everything else". But anything not related at all to internet works same as without the block.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on February 19, 2020, 10:15:30 AM
You should be more detailed what you include in "everything else". But anything not related at all to internet works same as without the block.
Meaning will it stop the camera / the video function?

  Just curious when one blocks the actual internet entirely any chance the hotspot on such a small phone would work?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on February 19, 2020, 10:21:09 AM
Meaning will it stop the camera / the video function?

  Just curious when one blocks the actual internet entirely any chance the hotspot on such a small phone would work?
It does not stop anyting about the camera and video.

Hotspot can technically work with "the internet" (which means basically browsing and web connectivity), though not sure if they allow it to remain open.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Iz on February 19, 2020, 10:40:17 AM
Seems like you're a bit knowledgeable in this area, if one goes ahead and put the filter to block the internet on that phone does everything else work properly?
 
Nope, not knowledgeable. I'm glad @Yisroel Tech is helping you.  :)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: aygart on February 19, 2020, 11:12:22 AM
Could someone please explain to me the problem with texting. Why is it unacceptable?
Texting can be very detrimental to a yeshiva bochur. It can bring his head elsewhere. Picture texts make it MUCH worse since it makes it very easy to get pictures you would not approve of from "friends/enemies" depending on your perspective. Even plain text makes it easy to get onto inappropriate chats.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on February 19, 2020, 11:14:24 AM
Why do you think it's UNACCEPTABLE? It's mostly a גדר some people take in themselves to be farther from technological things.

(There is however an issue some point out that in text it's much less shameful to communicate inappropriately than there is over the phone.)

The reason I think some find it unacceptable is that Kosher phones and phone lines in Israel have no texting. My question is what seems to be the issue that causes texting to be banned?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on February 19, 2020, 11:16:09 AM
Texting can be very detrimental to a yeshiva bochur. It can bring his head elsewhere. Picture texts make it MUCH worse since it makes it very easy to get pictures you would not approve of from "friends/enemies" depending on your perspective. Even plain text makes it easy to get onto inappropriate chats.
Picture "texts" are MMS. I can understand blocking those, and it's much simpler to block those. But I think at this point in time plain texting has become an efficient way of communicating short messages, without the intrusion of a phone call.

Even plain phone calls can get into inappropriate chats. Where's the difference?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: aygart on February 19, 2020, 11:19:10 AM
Picture "texts" are MMS. I can understand blocking those, and it's much simpler to block those. But I think at this point in time plain texting has become an efficient way of communicating short messages, without the intrusion of a phone call.

Even plain phone calls can get into inappropriate chats. Where's the difference?
much easier and on 24/7 for anyone on to post at any time. Phone conversations need to sit and join.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on February 19, 2020, 11:20:03 AM
And a friend can add you to a group which puts you in contact with a whole bunch of people who you might never be friends with in real life
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on February 19, 2020, 11:22:42 AM
And a friend can add you to a group which puts you in contact with a whole bunch of people who you might never be friends with in real life

much easier and on 24/7 for anyone on to post at any time. Phone conversations need to sit and join.

Thank you for the clarifications.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ae123 on February 20, 2020, 05:35:32 PM
And a friend can add you to a group which puts you in contact with a whole bunch of people who you might never be friends with in real life
Isn't that only possible with a smartphone - which presumably a good Bachur wouldn't have anyway?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on February 20, 2020, 05:55:20 PM
Isn't that only possible with a smartphone - which presumably a good Bachur wouldn't have anyway?
texting groups?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: rocksteeljack on February 22, 2020, 01:07:26 PM
Hey guys,

I noticed a lot of you guys were trying to get apps on the LG Exalt and other 4G flip phones.

Checkout www.apps4flip.com, it features a small selection of apps modified to be installable on the LG and other phones.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on February 23, 2020, 01:39:50 PM
Hey guys,

I noticed a lot of you guys were trying to get apps on the LG Exalt and other 4G flip phones.

Checkout www.apps4flip.com, it features a small selection of apps modified to be installable on the LG and other phones.
Interesting.
I had my browser on Kyocera cadence fried, is there a way I can still get an app?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on February 23, 2020, 07:16:32 PM
Hey guys,

I noticed a lot of you guys were trying to get apps on the LG Exalt and other 4G flip phones.

Checkout www.apps4flip.com, it features a small selection of apps modified to be installable on the LG and other phones.
Hey, someone claiming here (http://www.ivelt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2115455#p2115455) that this app steals the users data and location. Anything you know about it?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on February 23, 2020, 07:28:37 PM
Hey, someone claiming here (http://www.ivelt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2115455#p2115455) that this app steals the users data and location. Anything you know about it?
Allegedly the launcher app calls back home
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on February 23, 2020, 07:34:16 PM
Allegedly the launcher app calls back home
According to that person's claims, it does not only "call home" (which would mean a network request, and I would understand it for statistics purposes), but it sends your location and steals your contacts etc as well...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on February 23, 2020, 08:21:05 PM
According to that person's claims, it does not only "call home" (which would mean a network request, and I would understand it for statistics purposes), but it sends your location and steals your contacts etc as well...

If it were a Chinese website, I would fear that. Did you read the "about" section of that website? Why not ask these guys straight out?

Quote
This project was crafted with love by < 3 bochurim. Enjoy!

For any questions, comments, or shidduchim :), email us at support@apps4flip.com

To reach specific project leaders you can contact us at the email addresses below.

Ploini 1 - Nashim / Nezikin guy in a top yeshiva - Senior SWE - ploini1@apps4flip.com

Ploini 2 - Kadshim guy in a top yeshiva - Full Stack SWE - ploini2@apps4flip.com

Website Editor - Top shelf halacha dude who also does software and edits this website - editor@apps4flip.com

A Krisppp, TGM, MSS, Mull D, CUNY, and Coffee Gemach Production
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on February 23, 2020, 08:31:30 PM
If it were a Chinese website, I would fear that. Did you read the "about" section of that website? Why not ask these guys straight out?
No reason not to ask... I actually sent them an email. But in the meantime people should be aware of it.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on February 23, 2020, 08:50:56 PM
No reason not to ask... I actually sent them an email. But in the meantime people should be aware of it.

Waiting for you to report back with your findings.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on February 24, 2020, 07:17:10 AM
Waiting for you to report back with your findings.
The developers responded, they very to much understand there concern and are already finishing up a solution that would not include it.

Message 1:
Quote
We apologize, we commissioned a developer to build in analytics and we did not realize how deep it went.

We have shut down the site until we have a fix available without the data collection.
We have also deleted all data that was collected.

Message 2:
Quote
The issue is now fully fixed.

All collected data has been deleted by our developer.

The Data collection mechanism has been permanently disabled at the server level for users with the old apk, and we have released a new apk without any data collection at all.

We will be turning the site back on soon.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on February 24, 2020, 07:33:28 AM
The developers responded, they very to much understand there concern and are already finishing up a solution that would not include it.

Message 1:
Message 2:
Now find these nice guys some good shidduchim.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on February 24, 2020, 10:45:49 AM
Great lesson, don't trust anyone, can you confirm the new version is indeed clean?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on February 24, 2020, 11:25:53 AM
Great lesson, don't trust anyone, can you confirm the new version is indeed clean?
Another lesson, don't assume bad intent...

I'm not a developer (I wasn't the one to find it, I just brought it here), but I did a scan on it and this data collection capability seems to be removed.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: SearchGuy on February 24, 2020, 11:38:41 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/24/apple-investor-warren-buffett-traded-in-his-flip-phone-for-an-iphone.html
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on February 24, 2020, 12:05:07 PM
Another lesson, don't assume bad intent...

I'm not a developer (I wasn't the one to find it, I just brought it here), but I did a scan on it and this data collection capability seems to be removed.
We still don't know if it was bad or not, whether anyone in the chain had malicious intent
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on February 24, 2020, 01:22:47 PM
wil it be able to have whats app and gmail?  THAT would be major
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: avrohomgelb on February 24, 2020, 01:31:01 PM
wil it be able to have whats app and gmail?  THAT would be major
My friend has what's app on his kyocera
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on February 24, 2020, 01:41:29 PM
wil it be able to have whats app and gmail?  THAT would be major
Did you forget why we want flip phones?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: avrohomgelb on February 24, 2020, 01:43:23 PM
Did you forget why we want flip phones?
It wasn't that your friends think you have a flip phone?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on February 24, 2020, 01:51:58 PM
It wasn't that your friends think you have a flip phone?
For that you can have full android flips like galaxy folder, lg wine etc
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: aygart on February 24, 2020, 02:55:33 PM
Another lesson, don't assume bad intent...

I'm not a developer (I wasn't the one to find it, I just brought it here), but I did a scan on it and this data collection capability seems to be removed.
Is there a significant practical difference between a data breach due to bad intent or due to poor quality control?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on February 24, 2020, 03:07:31 PM
For that you can have full android flips like galaxy folder, lg wine etc
they dont support 4g LTE. I have the folder
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on February 24, 2020, 03:07:52 PM
My friend has what's app on his kyocera
who installed it?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on February 24, 2020, 03:17:26 PM
Interesting.
I had my browser on Kyocera cadence fried, is there a way I can still get an app?
Anyone know what the answer to this is?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: aygart on February 24, 2020, 03:45:13 PM
Anyone know what the answer to this is?
Read the install instructions. They do not involve the phone browser.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on February 25, 2020, 12:08:51 AM
Read the install instructions. They do not involve the phone browser.
Thanks. And to use the app, I wouldn't need the browser to work?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on February 25, 2020, 12:13:18 AM
Thanks. And to use the app, I wouldn't need the browser to work?
"The browser" no. But if you have one of those blocks installed by TAG etc this will also be blocked.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on February 29, 2020, 07:46:46 PM
Is there any way to get the apps on the coolpad snap? it doesn't seem that there is any way to enable usb debugging which is the necessary first step.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: isrealsuits on March 04, 2020, 03:50:55 PM
i am looking to transfer text messages from a android to a flip phone ! how can this be done?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on March 04, 2020, 04:59:55 PM
i am looking to transfer text messages from a android to a flip phone ! how can this be done?

If with Verizon you should be able to use Verizon Message+
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: isrealsuits on March 04, 2020, 05:25:16 PM
Is that through Verizon cloud?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on March 04, 2020, 05:46:58 PM
Is that through Verizon cloud?

I'm not sure.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ziv716 on March 06, 2020, 04:15:21 AM
they dont support 4g LTE. I have the folder
Anyone know of one that does have 4g?

Referring to Android flip.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ajay on April 12, 2020, 03:18:36 PM
can someone please help remove tag filter from lg exalt or at least update it without removing the filter. thanx
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ziv716 on April 12, 2020, 03:37:19 PM
can someone please help remove tag filter from lg exalt or at least update it without removing the filter. thanx
Not possible without tag.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ajay on April 12, 2020, 04:59:13 PM
Not possible without tag.
there used to be a way by pulling out the battery
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on April 12, 2020, 06:05:47 PM
there used to be a way by pulling out the battery
And that would be called a weak filter!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: elimmm on April 17, 2020, 12:12:14 AM
any recommendations for a good flip phone that can text well (MMS and good texting conversation memory...)
not using the browser,  not smartphone

THANKS
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jellybelly on April 19, 2020, 02:10:10 PM
I have a Verizon 3G flip phone that doesnt currently have service. Would they let me put service on it or does 3G not work anymore? Do I have any other options to get service on this phone? I need unlimited minutes
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on April 19, 2020, 02:29:07 PM
I have a Verizon 3G flip phone that doesnt currently have service. Would they let me put service on it or does 3G not work anymore? Do I have any other options to get service on this phone? I need unlimited minutes
cannot activate verizon 3g service anymore
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Hershelsdeals on April 19, 2020, 02:30:18 PM
cannot activate verizon 3g service anymore
I just did last week. Did it online. Phone was a new phone,  and the line already had an existing 3g phone
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jellybelly on April 19, 2020, 02:42:09 PM
cannot activate verizon 3g service anymore
So my 3G phone is worthless?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jellybelly on April 19, 2020, 02:43:06 PM
Can I use it for Verizon prepaid or red pocket is something similar?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on April 19, 2020, 03:00:27 PM
Can I use it for Verizon prepaid or red pocket is something similar?
No
But I have seen them being flashed to sprint , dont ask me how
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Madreigis on April 19, 2020, 04:51:08 PM
Hi, I had a LG Rumor phone by sprint. The phone broke it doesn't turn on... Anyway to retrive the contacts?

I bought a new phone, Kyocera Dura XV-LTE. Using Red Pocket (Verizon) service any option to back up the new contacts to cloud
?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jeremiah on April 22, 2020, 11:02:26 AM
Can a verizon cosmos 3 slide phone be unlocked to use on sprint network (i. e. Tello)?
Willing to pay
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on April 22, 2020, 11:39:17 AM
Any reasonably priced decent Verizon flip phones available? I went on their website yesterday and found that they no longer sell the LG Exalt LTE, and the reviews on what they do sell seem very bad.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on April 22, 2020, 10:06:31 PM
Can a verizon cosmos 3 slide phone be unlocked to use on sprint network (i. e. Tello)?
Willing to pay
Its called flashed. It can be done. You have to find a independent cellphone store that is doing it
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Iz on April 22, 2020, 10:17:27 PM
Any reasonably priced decent Verizon flip phones available? I went on their website yesterday and found that they no longer sell the LG Exalt LTE, and the reviews on what they do sell seem very bad.
not sure what you consider reasonable, but look into Kyocera Cadence.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on April 22, 2020, 10:23:09 PM
Is there any way to unlock a Verizon Prepaid flip phone (eTalk) sold in Target for $29.99 so it could work with MVNOs that use the Verizon network?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ad120 on April 26, 2020, 12:50:05 AM
Is there any way to unlock a Verizon Prepaid flip phone (eTalk) sold in Target for $29.99 so it could work with MVNOs that use the Verizon network?
does it even need to be unlocked in order to use it on a vzw MNVO?
BTW, KAiOS phones are awful.
They lag terribly.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ad120 on April 26, 2020, 12:51:05 AM
If I get my Kyocera Cadence unlocked, would it work with AT&T?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on April 26, 2020, 01:23:20 AM
If I get my Kyocera Cadence unlocked, would it work with AT&T?
mine does
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on April 26, 2020, 06:58:55 AM
Is there any way to unlock a Verizon Prepaid flip phone (eTalk) sold in Target for $29.99 so it could work with MVNOs that use the Verizon network?

Actually found that the answer was right on the box. Unlocks automatically after 60 days active or $50 spent on Verizon prepaid.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on April 26, 2020, 08:41:45 AM
Actually found that the answer was right on the box. Unlocks automatically after 60 days active or $50 spent on Verizon prepaid.
true. thought u were asking for right away
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on April 26, 2020, 08:52:13 AM
true. thought u were asking for right away
I was.
Was then going to follow up with a question whether there are ways to get VZW refills at a discount.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ad120 on April 26, 2020, 01:31:48 PM
mine does
How did you get it unlocked?
Does it work overseas?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on April 26, 2020, 01:44:59 PM
Does anyone know if this phone can be kosherized?
NUU F4L 4GB Feature Phone (Unlocked)
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552325-REG/nuu_f4l_us_black_f4l_2_8_vga_lte.html
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: nucheiner on April 26, 2020, 04:02:59 PM
I was.
Was then going to follow up with a question whether there are ways to get VZW refills at a discount.

It may work with an MVNO if you don't turn on with this sim inserted. YMMV. The cheapest now for unlimited Talk and Text on VZW is US Mobile ($9 first month) and they also have a bit of a track record activating ineligible phones. If phones from Target, so give it a try and return if necessary. Also US Mobile will refund within 14 days. You can use the promo code CPTB4AA to order free Sim kit. Activate from separate email address so you can use (my referral) promo code for 50%: NACWKXC or find another code
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on April 26, 2020, 05:36:25 PM
It may work with an MVNO if you don't turn on with this sim inserted. YMMV. The cheapest now for unlimited Talk and Text on VZW is US Mobile ($9 first month) and they also have a bit of a track record activating ineligible phones. If phones from Target, so give it a try and return if necessary. Also US Mobile will refund within 14 days. You can use the promo code CPTB4AA to order free Sim kit. Activate from separate email address so you can use (my referral) promo code for 50%: NACWKXC or find another code

I already had a US mobile SIM. Didn't work on the phone without the terms stated on the box.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on April 26, 2020, 06:43:28 PM
Does anyone know if this phone can be kosherized?
NUU F4L 4GB Feature Phone (Unlocked)
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552325-REG/nuu_f4l_us_black_f4l_2_8_vga_lte.html
https://www.boostmobile.com/phones/coolpad-snap.html

What about this?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on April 26, 2020, 07:49:06 PM
How did you get it unlocked?
Does it work overseas?
bought it unlocked and yes it works oversea
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on April 26, 2020, 07:59:59 PM
mine does
Also 4g bands?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on April 26, 2020, 08:04:39 PM
Does anyone know if this phone can be kosherized?
NUU F4L 4GB Feature Phone (Unlocked)
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552325-REG/nuu_f4l_us_black_f4l_2_8_vga_lte.html
Seems to definitely be a way, see this (https://koshercell.org/Kosher-NUU-Verizon-GSM-Unlocked-4g-Flip-Phone-Talk-&-Text-only-p177274862) and this (http://bestwirelessgroup.com/Kosher-NUU-VerizonGSM-Unlocked-4g-Flip-Phone_p_251.html). But I don't know if you can do it free/cheaper when buying the phone yourself.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on April 26, 2020, 08:05:19 PM
Also 4g bands?
sure
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on April 26, 2020, 08:05:39 PM
Seems to definitely be a way, see this (https://koshercell.org/Kosher-NUU-Verizon-GSM-Unlocked-4g-Flip-Phone-Talk-&-Text-only-p177274862) and this (http://bestwirelessgroup.com/Kosher-NUU-VerizonGSM-Unlocked-4g-Flip-Phone_p_251.html). But I don't know if you can do it free/cheaper when buying the phone yourself.
Thanks! That was really my Q vs paying that much extra...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ad120 on April 26, 2020, 10:20:05 PM
It may work with an MVNO if you don't turn on with this sim inserted. YMMV. The cheapest now for unlimited Talk and Text on VZW is US Mobile ($9 first month) and they also have a bit of a track record activating ineligible phones. If phones from Target, so give it a try and return if necessary. Also US Mobile will refund within 14 days. You can use the promo code CPTB4AA to order free Sim kit. Activate from separate email address so you can use (my referral) promo code for 50%: NACWKXC or find another code

I bought my Kyocera Cadence from Target and activated US Mobile Super LTE service. I have the unlimited talk+text for $14/Month after fees.
The problem is that unlimited is not really unlimited. After a bit your service cuts off as per their "fair usage policy". You need to contact them the "reset" your usage when this happens. This occurs twice a week for me usually in middle of a call. I find it very annoying especially when the don't answer the phone and I do not have internet access to contact them. In fact, last month they told me that I need to top up because maximum refresh had been met.
I am going to switch to VZW for two months to unlock and then go over to H20.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on April 27, 2020, 03:32:29 PM
$85 for the Verizon Kyocera an ok price?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on April 27, 2020, 04:01:39 PM
Can a verizon prepaid phone work with wing?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on April 27, 2020, 05:01:27 PM
$85 for the Verizon Kyocera an ok price?
WhatsApp or text him and ask for more details.
He said something about keeping the phone with Verizon for the 1 month.

Quote
Its 85 dollars and if you need a sim card it's another 10 and the service is 30

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https://wa.me/17329943867?text=Hi%20can%20I%20order%20a%20phone
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Davidthebest on April 27, 2020, 06:33:11 PM
Can anyone recommend a good quality 4G flip phone for a decent price ?


Have to get one and don't wana find my self buying a new one every few months .
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Joel on April 27, 2020, 06:50:58 PM
Can anyone recommend a good quality 4G flip phone for a decent price ?


Have to get one and don't wana find my self buying a new one every few months .
Just purchased this phone as all others have broken pretty quickly.
Kyocera DuraXV LTE Camera Model Verizon Flip Rugged Phone
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Davidthebest on April 27, 2020, 06:53:26 PM
Just purchased this phone as all others have broken pretty quickly.
Kyocera DuraXV LTE Camera Model Verizon Flip Rugged Phone
What is the experience you have with it so far?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Davidthebest on April 27, 2020, 06:55:27 PM
Just purchased this phone as all others have broken pretty quickly.
Kyocera DuraXV LTE Camera Model Verizon Flip Rugged Phone
This one?

Reviews seem to be bad
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Joel on April 27, 2020, 06:57:58 PM
What is the experience you have with it so far?
Just got it today so far its great.
Let's see if anyone else has this one and can tell you if it lasts
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on April 27, 2020, 11:28:59 PM
Can a verizon prepaid phone work with wing?
I believe wing operates on the sprint network, if so the answer would be no. It does not work with wing
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on April 27, 2020, 11:34:42 PM
I believe wing operates on the sprint network, if so the answer would be no. It does not work with wing
I think they have AT&T also. Their support is very responsive if you want to chat with them.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: nucheiner on April 28, 2020, 05:06:27 PM
Seems like Verizon is prioritizing their own VZW Prepaid customers over other prepaid MVNO. My friend has 2 identical devices Keyocera Cadence flip phones, the one on US Mobile (vzw mvno) is having issues with MMS having delays while the one activated on VZW prepaid is working fine.

Can anyone confirm if they are seeing better service in 08701 with VZW PREPAID vs other Verizon MVNO? (Hard to prove differences. But MMS delays, calls not connecting are definite indicators)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on April 29, 2020, 02:30:45 PM
I know Verizon is actively phasing out 3G and some other companies may start to do so soon therefore my question is I want to get a basic phone on a 4G network with a keyboard to type texts fast.  Verizon has 0 options.  Does any carrier have this option?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on April 29, 2020, 02:32:43 PM
I know Verizon is actively phasing out 3G and some other companies may start to do so soon therefore my question is I want to get a basic phone on a 4G network with a keyboard to type texts fast.  Verizon has 0 options.  Does any carrier have this option?
I have the same question, a friend just asked me about this last night.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on April 29, 2020, 02:48:30 PM
I know Verizon is actively phasing out 3G and some other companies may start to do so soon therefore my question is I want to get a basic phone on a 4G network with a keyboard to type texts fast.  Verizon has 0 options.  Does any carrier have this option?
I dont know about other services, but i checked for sprint and did not find any options.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on April 29, 2020, 04:07:22 PM
I know Verizon is actively phasing out 3G and some other companies may start to do so soon therefore my question is I want to get a basic phone on a 4G network with a keyboard to type texts fast.  Verizon has 0 options.  Does any carrier have this option?
i believe at&t still has phones like these which they are servicing
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on April 29, 2020, 04:20:15 PM
i believe at&t still has phones like these which they are servicing
3g or 4g?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ad120 on April 29, 2020, 04:46:06 PM
WhatsApp or text him and ask for more details.
He said something about keeping the phone with Verizon for the 1 month.

  (https://i.ibb.co/7RxmSr5/Screenshot-20200427-144040.png) (https://ibb.co/VQ04LMZ)

https://wa.me/17329943867?text=Hi%20can%20I%20order%20a%20phone
I got my sim for free with the phone.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ae123 on April 30, 2020, 10:21:41 PM
3g or 4g?
AT&T.
4G.
Smartflip/Quickflip
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on April 30, 2020, 10:24:17 PM
AT&T.
4G.
Smartflip/Quickflip
These?
https://www.att.com/buy/prepaid-phones/alcatel-smartflip-4gb-volcano-black-prepaid.html
https://www.amazon.com/Alcatel-QuickFlip-Unlocked-Extrenal-Bluetooth/dp/B07PHTYGY7

Unless I'm looking at the wrong things, neither have an alphabet keyboard for texting
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ae123 on April 30, 2020, 10:43:25 PM
These?
https://www.att.com/buy/prepaid-phones/alcatel-smartflip-4gb-volcano-black-prepaid.html
https://www.amazon.com/Alcatel-QuickFlip-Unlocked-Extrenal-Bluetooth/dp/B07PHTYGY7

Unless I'm looking at the wrong things, neither have an alphabet keyboard for texting
Woops.
I thought you were just looking for 4G flips that run on GSM.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on April 30, 2020, 10:43:57 PM
Woops.
I thought you were just looking for 4G flips that run on GSM.
Was actually looking for that also, but not recently :)
TY
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: EliJelly on April 30, 2020, 11:38:18 PM
Just purchased this phone as all others have broken pretty quickly.
Kyocera DuraXV LTE Camera Model Verizon Flip Rugged Phone
Are you happy with it? Does it have the same dumb bugs like the Exalt LTE does? (no nothing during a call, yes I know the workarounds) And finally, can I just purchase the cheapest one on Ebay that comes without a sim card?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on May 03, 2020, 02:43:15 AM
Are you happy with it? Does it have the same dumb bugs like the Exalt LTE does? (no nothing during a call, yes I know the workarounds) And finally, can I just purchase the cheapest one on Ebay that comes without a sim card?
Can you please teach me the workarounds for the exalt?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: EliJelly on May 03, 2020, 03:00:11 AM
Can you please teach me the workarounds for the exalt?
For messages, select options to message the caller, then press CLR to go to all messages. Only works one time, for second time use the following method.
For other stuff (contact list, calculator, calendar etc.) dial any single number, press talk (while putting first caller on hold) and right away hang up by closing the phone, reopen it immediately to get back to first caller and you'll have the main screen on the phone available for any task. Get back to caller screen by pressing END once.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on May 03, 2020, 03:05:27 AM
For messages, select options to message the caller, then press CLR to go to all messages. Only works one time, for second time use the following method.
For other stuff (contact list, calculator, calendar etc.) dial any single number, press talk (while putting first caller on hold) and right away hang up by closing the phone, reopen it immediately to get back to first caller and you'll have the main screen on the phone available for any task. Get back to caller screen by pressing END once.
such a pain. Worth getting the Kyocera just for this
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: EliJelly on May 03, 2020, 10:03:39 AM
such a pain. Worth getting the Kyocera just for this
Definitely. Sure it doesn't have these bugs?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on May 03, 2020, 10:05:40 AM
Definitely. Sure it doesn't have these bugs?
what bugs?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Joel on May 03, 2020, 10:07:08 AM
Are you happy with it? Does it have the same dumb bugs like the Exalt LTE does? (no nothing during a call, yes I know the workarounds) And finally, can I just purchase the cheapest one on Ebay that comes without a sim card?
So far yes. Had a few ppl tell me they can't hear me clearly but I don't believe its the phone..
You can text while on a call.
Very similar to the kyocera.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on May 03, 2020, 10:10:13 AM
So far yes. Had a few ppl tell me they can't hear me clearly but I don't believe its the phone..
You can text while on a call.
Very similar to the kyocera.
I believe it is the best flip phone they make. Has pluses of both the Kyocera and the exalt. The downside is its massive!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Joel on May 03, 2020, 10:35:08 AM
I believe it is the best flip phone they make. Has pluses of both the Kyocera and the exalt. The downside is its massive!
Bought it. Because its supposed to be stronger then all other ones since it kept breaking pretty fast
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on May 03, 2020, 01:32:50 PM
I believe it is the best flip phone they make. Has pluses of both the Kyocera and the exalt. The downside is its massive!
What plus side of exalt?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on May 03, 2020, 01:51:17 PM
What plus side of exalt?
better operating ex: video capability.
Title: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on May 04, 2020, 04:49:03 PM
Anybody has experience using the LG exault with a GSM carrier in the USA like T-Mobile or AT&T , or does anybody know the gsm bands this phone has ?

ETA I found the answer.
NetworkLTE, UMTS, GSMFrequenciesLTE Bands 13/4/5; UMTS 850/900/1900/ 2100 MHz; GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jeremiah on May 05, 2020, 09:09:03 AM

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https://wa.me/17329943867?text=Hi%20can%20I%20order%20a%20phone
This guy is OOS
Anyone else selling Kyocera Cadence?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ae123 on May 05, 2020, 05:10:44 PM
Anyone familiar with the Alcatel Smartflip/Go Flip 3?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 05, 2020, 06:10:55 PM
Anyone familiar with the Alcatel Smartflip/Go Flip 3?
Better than the old one for a couple reasons... not even close to exalt, kyocera... also DO NOT get for a kid without speaking to TAG they have full browser, youtube etc. Also whatsapp works well but no calling...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on May 05, 2020, 09:29:14 PM
Anyone familiar with the Alcatel Smartflip/Go Flip 3?
I had one for a bit, not sure if its the same model though. If it is the same I wrote about earlier, don't get it, i was very frustrated with it
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ae123 on May 05, 2020, 10:39:05 PM
Better than the old one for a couple reasons... not even close to exalt, kyocera... also DO NOT get for a kid without speaking to TAG they have full browser, youtube etc. Also whatsapp works well but no calling...
1 - Is there any way to get rid of the icons on the home screen but not necessarily delete the app itself?
2 - Is there any way I can use the phone (text, calendar, etc.) while on a call?
I can't seem to find a way for these two issues.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ae123 on May 05, 2020, 10:39:40 PM
I had one for a bit, not sure if its the same model though. If it is the same I wrote about earlier, don't get it, i was very frustrated with it
I think it is.
I already have it.
I thought this was my only 4G fliphone option for AT&T.
Are there others?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 05, 2020, 11:22:31 PM
1 - Is there any way to get rid of the icons on the home screen but not necessarily delete the app itself?
2 - Is there any way I can use the phone (text, calendar, etc.) while on a call?
I can't seem to find a way for these two issues.
1 pretty sure not maybe something if you have a lot of coding skills and time to spare :)
2 also almost positive that it impossible if a new text comes in the first line will pop on the screen for a few seconds.
Some disadvantages are less dedicated buttons and IMHO feels cheaper.


The google assistant works fairly well especially for dictation and WhatsApp is pretty cool
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 05, 2020, 11:27:00 PM
Plenty of people in the Frum community have extensive contacts both with executives as well as manufacturing.  Any thoughts if it would be profitable for them to sell a lineup of well designed dumb phones with all the input from people who actually use them?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yesitsme on May 06, 2020, 09:32:34 AM
Plenty of people in the Frum community have extensive contacts both with executives as well as manufacturing.  Any thoughts if it would be profitable for them to sell a lineup of well designed dumb phones with all the input from people who actually use them?
if you're already heading that direction make it should be childproof, it should be able to withstand the kids throwing it like a ball
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 06, 2020, 10:20:05 AM
if you're already heading that direction make it should be childproof, it should be able to withstand the kids throwing it like a ball
Maybe a flip phone that military grade (is that even strong enough?) And qwerty kne that can be a drop more delicate. A flip phone is more practical for that as it has a natural screen protector when closed.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on May 06, 2020, 11:33:47 AM
Plenty of people in the Frum community have extensive contacts both with executives as well as manufacturing.  Any thoughts if it would be profitable for them to sell a lineup of well designed dumb phones with all the input from people who actually use them?
If they ever do, I would hope they'd add waze
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ae123 on May 06, 2020, 12:18:37 PM
1 pretty sure not maybe something if you have a lot of coding skills and time to spare :)
2 also almost positive that it impossible if a new text comes in the first line will pop on the screen for a few seconds.
Some disadvantages are less dedicated buttons and IMHO feels cheaper.


The google assistant works fairly well especially for dictation and WhatsApp is pretty cool
Thanks.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on May 06, 2020, 02:23:47 PM
Maybe a flip phone that military grade (is that even strong enough?) And qwerty kne that can be a drop more delicate. A flip phone is more practical for that as it has a natural screen protector when closed.
well once youre designing it, why not make a flip qwerty, its better than the slide ones, i think thats where they start to break by the slide connection. Unless you just meant to run a different os on it.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on May 06, 2020, 02:31:26 PM
Plenty of people in the Frum community have extensive contacts both with executives as well as manufacturing.  Any thoughts if it would be profitable for them to sell a lineup of well designed dumb phones with all the input from people who actually use them?
I remember seeing an ad in one of the frum publications a year or two ago for a frum market research study for this purpose, in a more general context but the same idea, I wonder if anything came of it. I couldnt find it on google but i dont recall the name.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 06, 2020, 03:37:31 PM
I remember seeing an ad in one of the frum publications a year or two ago for a frum market research study for this purpose, in a more general context but the same idea, I wonder if anything came of it. I couldnt find it on google but i dont recall the name.
Anyone have more info?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 06, 2020, 03:40:21 PM
well once youre designing it, why not make a flip qwerty, its better than the slide ones, i think thats where they start to break by the slide connection. Unless you just meant to run a different os on it.

well once youre designing it, why not make a flip qwerty, its better than the slide ones, i think thats where they start to break by the slide connection. Unless you just meant to run a different os on it.

IRC that makes for a pretty awkward form factor. Might be more acceptable now when we have the likes of galaxy Z and that motorola one.


Unless you mean similar to that old LG verizon one with 2 screens?

What do you mean by a different OS?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on May 06, 2020, 04:04:28 PM
IRC that makes for a pretty awkward form factor. Might be more acceptable now when we have the likes of galaxy Z and that motorola one.
The military grade phones out there are pretty bulky to begin with, so i dont know how much more would need to be added on.
Quote
What do you mean by a different OS?
To keep the current hardware of a phone that is good quality and just develop a different OS to run on it.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Definitions on May 07, 2020, 12:49:34 PM
Anyone have more info?
I also heard someone was looking to make a special run of Verizon's cosmo 3  with 4g on it and special software but needed a minimum of 100,000 pieces.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 07, 2020, 03:17:30 PM
I also heard someone was looking to make a special run of Verizon's cosmo 3  with 4g on it and special software but needed a minimum of 100,000 pieces.
I dont have numbers but I'm sure he could sell if he had the right LTE bands for the major carriers 4 (or 3) and got verizon to sell.

https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2019/11/lakewood-residents-demand-upgrades-to-verizon-network-petition-launched.html
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yesitsme on May 07, 2020, 11:35:13 PM
how would I know if this is compatible with twigby service?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sonim-XP3-Flip-Phone-8GB-ROM-1G-RAM-Black-Sprint-A/193047512382 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sonim-XP3-Flip-Phone-8GB-ROM-1G-RAM-Black-Sprint-A/193047512382)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on May 07, 2020, 11:55:42 PM
how would I know if this is compatible with twigby service?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sonim-XP3-Flip-Phone-8GB-ROM-1G-RAM-Black-Sprint-A/193047512382 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sonim-XP3-Flip-Phone-8GB-ROM-1G-RAM-Black-Sprint-A/193047512382)
If its a sprint phone. It should work.
Try to message the seller and ask for the imei
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yesitsme on May 07, 2020, 11:58:06 PM
If its a sprint phone. It should work.
Try to message the seller and ask for the imei
I did he responded
Unfortunately we don't have that information
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on May 08, 2020, 12:00:26 AM
I did he responded
Unfortunately we don't have that information
Tell him to remove the back cover and remove the battery and send you a picture of the phone.
Or ask him to dial *#06#.
If they cant provide you this info then you should not buy from them
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on May 08, 2020, 11:22:08 AM
Tell him to remove the back cover and remove the battery and send you a picture of the phone.
Or ask him to dial *#06#.
If they cant provide you this info then you should not buy from them
I dont know about that model phone, but in my experience flip phones will not give the device info by dialing *#06#
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ae123 on May 08, 2020, 03:39:13 PM
I dont know about that model phone, but in my experience flip phones will not give the device info by dialing *#06#
My ZTE Z223 does.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 08, 2020, 04:18:53 PM
My ZTE Z223 does.
I think that's a GSM thing.... sprint would be cdma
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on May 08, 2020, 05:59:39 PM
The zte z223 is a AT&T Phone. Wont work with sprint
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: helpinghand on May 14, 2020, 12:40:32 PM
Can the Kyocera Cadence Verizon Prepaid phone be used for Sprint?
I tried putting in a postpaid Sprint Sim but Sprint says they are unable to activate it. I do have the unlock code already despite that I haven't been active for 60 days (or $50). Perhaps I need to wait it out even though I already have unlock code.
did anyone have success with activating the Kyocera Cadence on sprint/tello?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 20, 2020, 10:50:55 PM
I have been building Kosher software for mobile phones for over 10+ years. It's very expensive to build a phone yet along RnD to build your own firmware. I personally have made around 40+ phones kosher. From the Alcatel 4044 all the way to the Koycera models. I can remote flash alot of phones if anyone needs to turn their phone into a kosher or talk and text device.

wwww.kosherfone.com
www.kosherfonewireless.com
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 20, 2020, 10:55:48 PM
Does anyone know if this phone can be kosherized?
NUU F4L 4GB Feature Phone (Unlocked)
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552325-REG/nuu_f4l_us_black_f4l_2_8_vga_lte.html

It is I did it with Hebrew for Wireless Experts.

MWH SALES INC.
140 Rodney St
Brooklyn NY 11211
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on May 21, 2020, 11:46:02 AM
I have been building Kosher software for mobile phones for over 10+ years. It's very expensive to build a phone yet along RnD to build your own firmware. I personally have made around 40+ phones kosher. From the Alcatel 4044 all the way to the Koycera models. I can remote flash alot of phones if anyone needs to turn their phone into a kosher or talk and text device.

wwww.kosherfone.com
www.kosherfonewireless.com

maybe you can push/implement a 4g basic phone with keyboard?  From what I understand there is NONE i the market  and seems to be a lot of demand among the frum crowd etc....
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on May 21, 2020, 11:46:54 AM
I have been building Kosher software for mobile phones for over 10+ years. It's very expensive to build a phone yet along RnD to build your own firmware. I personally have made around 40+ phones kosher. From the Alcatel 4044 all the way to the Koycera models. I can remote flash alot of phones if anyone needs to turn their phone into a kosher or talk and text device.

wwww.kosherfone.com
www.kosherfonewireless.com

also where are you located and can you give  range of prices?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on May 21, 2020, 01:47:51 PM
also where are you located and can you give  range of prices?
Its all on the website
$25 per phone.
Based on the phone number he is in Los Angeles

He does it remotely, you need a computer with internet access and teamviewer installed
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 21, 2020, 07:41:36 PM
maybe you can push/implement a 4g basic phone with keyboard?  From what I understand there is NONE i the market  and seems to be a lot of demand among the frum crowd etc....

Its to expensive to go out and build a good quality handset and still affordable.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 21, 2020, 09:25:47 PM
Its to expensive to go out and build a good quality handset and still affordable.
What about a licensing and existing phone? If I understand correctly the earlier Java based OS cant handle 4g but how expensive would it be to partner with LG to implement their *excellent * version of ASOP for flip phones on hardware they already have like the Cosmos or Extravert?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on May 21, 2020, 10:41:40 PM
maybe you can push/implement a 4g basic phone with keyboard?  From what I understand there is NONE i the market  and seems to be a lot of demand among the frum crowd etc....
+1
Its to expensive to go out and build a good quality handset and still affordable.
How much would it be... people are already spending upwards of 100 on flip phones that they dont like.

I feel that most people that have flip phones are frustrated with the lack of integration, you need a phone for call/text, (which the flip phones are not very good at providing, at least not as well as the older model slide phones in my experience), ipod for music and a camera for pictures and gps for directions, (although i dont know if that can be easily replicated on a basic phone), things that should all be able to be put on a single kosher device. This is the purpose of this thread to find that device, and if someone develops it and controls the market, it seems to have a lot of potential. My two cents
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 21, 2020, 10:52:48 PM
Those things can be easily replicated on flip phones and have been for years and would have continued to evolve with the market if not for corporate schemes to make more money.

 Basically, people spend more time on smartphones and Carriers can sell them for more so they want to push you to spend more on the device + more service usage. 
They (particularly Verizon) hold tremendous sway over phone makers and basically decide what they manufacture. Look at the Korean versions of the LG Exalt/folder/ wine. -- much more functionality!


Additionally the way the market has developed most phones (with the exception of flagships) are subsidized by the carriers....


About spending on flip phones.... Look at eBay literally thousands of LG Exalts have been sold in the $300-400 range! Crazy! (Peer pressure or s/t)  this is prob due to Verizon discontinuing it and being by far the best option. Verizon may have been motivated bc they were able to release a new kyocera for $240 while they couldn't raise the exalt from $150
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 21, 2020, 10:56:23 PM
See these lawsuits for more info
https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov filePDF
complaint - FCC
https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/10726214500114/2016-07-26-exhibits-merged-standard.pdf
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on May 21, 2020, 11:13:04 PM
Those things can be easily replicated on flip phones and have been for years and would have continued to evolve with the market if not for corporate schemes to make more money.

 Basically, people spend more time on smartphones and Carriers can sell them for more so they want to push you to spend more on the device + more service usage. 
They (particularly Verizon) hold tremendous sway over phone makers and basically decide what they manufacture. Look at the Korean versions of the LG Exalt/folder/ wine. -- much more functionality!


Additionally the way the market has developed most phones (with the exception of flagships) are subsidized by the carriers....


About spending on flip phones.... Look at eBay literally thousands of LG Exalts have been sold in the $300-400 range! Crazy! (Peer pressure or s/t)  this is prob due to Verizon discontinuing it and being by far the best option. Verizon may have been motivated bc they were able to release a new kyocera for $240 while they couldn't raise the exalt from $150
So what youre saying is that we either need to 1) file more lawsuits :) 2)import chinese models of phones 3)develop our own phone and charge upwards of 500 for it.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 21, 2020, 11:29:08 PM
1) short answer YES!!! Long answer:verizon is so powerful it's not  being fixed any time soon. Look at when these started. I think around 2002.
2) I've done it for myself in the past but dont work with US carriers too well Good option for those going to Eretz Yisroel although the market is wild out there so I can do better
3) from my initial inquiries it would be about $200
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on May 22, 2020, 12:05:48 AM
3) from my initial inquiries it would be about $200
Is it actually a work in progress, or is it just talk? what needs to be done, software development, hardware development / acquisition, raise capital for a real investment?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 22, 2020, 05:40:34 PM
Mainly speculation. I got a quote from the company distributing Alcatel phones in the US. They get them from the factory without any OS and add one based on the specs you want (usually carriers)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on May 24, 2020, 10:45:39 AM
How can I transfer contacts from iPhone to Verizon 4g flip phone?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Iz on May 24, 2020, 10:55:13 AM
How can I transfer contacts from iPhone to Verizon 4g flip phone?
Try Bluetooth.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 24, 2020, 12:49:19 PM
How can I transfer contacts from iPhone to Verizon 4g flip phone?

Best bet would be Verizon Backup -- built into tbe phone... or export ro SIM... if not backup to ur google/ iCloud account, download to pc and copg via USB to flip phone.

Mazel tov on takong the plunge!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: mgarfin on May 24, 2020, 09:09:53 PM
Any insight on these Verizon flip phone's

www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1527855-REG/schok_sc3218b_classic_flip_gsm_phone.html/amp


https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552325-REG/nuu_f4l_us_black_f4l_2_8_vga_lte.html
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 25, 2020, 11:09:41 AM
I dont about about Nuu but currently testing the schock.
It is the same hardware as the jitterbug phones (which are a larger version of the original  Alcatel Go flip) for seniors but has reg android go although they lock it down slightly so takes a bit of fiddling to load apps like google maps.

The camera is officially 8mp but doesnt come close to the LG exalts camera (5mp)

The virtual mouse is decent but is a drop buggy and def takes some getting used to.

Although it uas the same chip as the LG exalt it feels a lot slower basically like the original alcatels. When you press the buttons there is a slight delay.

T9- you can do better.

You can pair a bluetooth mouse (have not tried keyboard)  usb otg doesnt work.

Also very thick and bulky. Huge bezels.

No wifi calling at least with tmobile
Yes HD volte calling.

Ringer volume can he changed even when phone is closed so if u cant have ur phone ringing then you basically need to set ringer to a silent file.

Feel free to ask specific questions
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on May 25, 2020, 11:12:04 AM
FWIW I know two people who bought kosher Nuu phones and returned them for something else.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yef on May 25, 2020, 11:15:35 AM
maybe you can push/implement a 4g basic phone with keyboard?  From what I understand there is NONE i the market  and seems to be a lot of demand among the frum crowd etc....
There is definetely tremendous demand for this. Even at a very high price range, people will buy it. Most of the non smart phone people still text. And it is very difficult with the current dumb phones available. 
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yesitsme on May 25, 2020, 11:17:57 AM
how would I know if this is compatible with twigby service?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sonim-XP3-Flip-Phone-8GB-ROM-1G-RAM-Black-Sprint-A/193047512382 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sonim-XP3-Flip-Phone-8GB-ROM-1G-RAM-Black-Sprint-A/193047512382)
yes it is and its a great phone
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on May 25, 2020, 11:30:07 AM
@Mikes@Micro how about the Jio Phone 2. If a phone with that form factor could be made usable for calling, texting (including Hebrew alphabet) navigation (and optional whatsapp, including whatsapp voice calls), I think it could have a market.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 25, 2020, 01:07:30 PM
yes it is and its a great phone

How does it stack up against the exalt?
What about the xp5s?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: tkcentral on May 25, 2020, 01:08:54 PM
Hi I have a iPhone and Im looking to have a kosher phone is it possible to have the same number on 2 phones without having to switch the SIM cards
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 25, 2020, 01:13:52 PM
Hi I have a iPhone and Im looking to have a kosher phone is it possible to have the same number on 2 phones without having to switch the SIM cards

Tmobile has something called Digits. Check it out. Basically keep the sim in kisher phone and have a 2nd sim in iPhone, download the app and with iPhone or samsung it is well integrated
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 25, 2020, 01:17:58 PM
@Mikes@Micro how about the Jio Phone 2. If a phone with that form factor could be made usable for calling, texting (including Hebrew alphabet) navigation (and optional whatsapp, including whatsapp voice calls), I think it could have a market.

Yeah that would definitely be a hit. Some may perfer the durability of no moving parts while some prefer the space of a slider.

Importing the Jiophone 2 itself seems to be impossible as it appears to be manufactured exclusively for Reliance Jio and indian carrier. Have not been able to find a reliable way to purchase in the US.
Also doesnt seem to work with LTE bands of US carriers (although could possibly be reprogrammed which would likely kill battery life)
Cant find teardowns to know forsure but the processor seems sluggish based on reviews
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on May 25, 2020, 01:36:30 PM
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 25, 2020, 01:57:23 PM
Any insight on these Verizon flip phone's

www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1527855-REG/schok_sc3218b_classic_flip_gsm_phone.html/amp


https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552325-REG/nuu_f4l_us_black_f4l_2_8_vga_lte.html

I made both those phones kosher already.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 25, 2020, 01:59:08 PM

I am almost done making this phone kosher, I have been personally using it now for almost 2 months. It will be one of the most popular devices once i am done.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 25, 2020, 02:02:08 PM
FWIW I know two people who bought kosher Nuu phones and returned them for something else.

The issue you are talking about I fixed it but someone else made it kosher also and did not fix the issue. If you use our software the issue is gone.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 25, 2020, 02:07:44 PM
I am almost done making this phone kosher, I have been personally using it now for almost 2 months. It will be one of the most popular devices once i am done.

How does the camera compare to the LG exalt?
Specs say it is only 2mp while the exalt had 5?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on May 25, 2020, 02:08:45 PM
I am almost done making this phone kosher, I have been personally using it now for almost 2 months. It will be one of the most popular devices once i am done.
How is it better than the LG exalt?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 25, 2020, 02:09:05 PM
I dont about about Nuu but currently testing the schock.
It is the same hardware as the jitterbug phones (which are a larger version of the original  Alcatel Go flip) for seniors but has reg android go although they lock it down slightly so takes a bit of fiddling to load apps like google maps.

The camera is officially 8mp but doesnt come close to the LG exalts camera (5mp)

The virtual mouse is decent but is a drop buggy and def takes some getting used to.

Although it uas the same chip as the LG exalt it feels a lot slower basically like the original alcatels. When you press the buttons there is a slight delay.

T9- you can do better.

You can pair a bluetooth mouse (have not tried keyboard)  usb otg doesnt work.

Also very thick and bulky. Huge bezels.

No wifi calling at least with tmobile
Yes HD volte calling.

Ringer volume can he changed even when phone is closed so if u cant have ur phone ringing then you basically need to set ringer to a silent file.

Feel free to ask specific questions

It is not the same chip as the LG exalt or the Alcatels. The issue with the nuu is the software has some bugs from it, alot i have personally fixed.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 25, 2020, 02:09:58 PM
How is it better than the LG exalt?

It runs a newer Android version and currently i am working on making a caller id appear in the front screen.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on May 25, 2020, 02:11:38 PM
Best bet would be Verizon Backup -- built into tbe phone... or export ro SIM... if not backup to ur google/ iCloud account, download to pc and copg via USB to flip phone.

Mazel tov on takong the plunge!
Current iPhone is with att. I guess Verizon backup not an option. Backup to Sim is simple? Will the iPhone Sim go into the exalt?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on May 25, 2020, 02:12:41 PM
It runs a newer Android version and currently i am working on making a caller id appear in the front screen.
factory default settings do not show caller ID on front screen?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 25, 2020, 02:13:49 PM
How does the camera compare to the LG exalt?
Specs say it is only 2mp while the exalt had 5?

I have not played with the camera to be honest. Software wise the phone is a phone run other then the front display not showing the caller id which i am in the process of fixing.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on May 25, 2020, 02:15:05 PM
The issue you are talking about I fixed it but someone else made it kosher also and did not fix the issue. If you use our software the issue is gone.
Do any stores sell it kosher with your software?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 25, 2020, 02:26:13 PM
I have not played with the camera to be honest. Software wise the phone is a phone run other then the front display not showing the caller id which i am in the process of fixing.

Are you serious? Someone at LG missed the obvious. What does the display show out of the box?
Do you have a way to add words to the t9 dictionary.  Maybe auto add all name in contacts?

What is the advantage of a newer android if LG stripped it down?
Also it says asop 8.1, ie the android open source... for oreo while the exalt said android... any difference other than the wording?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 25, 2020, 02:28:50 PM
Do any stores sell it kosher with your software?

Yes call this number (845) 751-1082 or (845) 388-2355
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 25, 2020, 02:29:35 PM
Are you serious? Someone at LG missed the obvious. What does the display show out of the box?
Do you have a way to add words to the t9 dictionary.  Maybe auto add all name in contacts?

What is the advantage of a newer android if LG stripped it down?
Also it says asop 8.1, ie the android open source... for oreo while the exalt said android... any difference other than the wording?

The LG Wine all had this issue without putting caller id in front. Vn220 was 6.0
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on May 25, 2020, 02:30:00 PM
Yes call this number (845) 751-1082 or (845) 388-2355
Which stores are those? If I am telling people to go buy they will want more than a phone #.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 25, 2020, 02:31:58 PM
Which stores are those? If I am telling people to go buy they will want more than a phone #.

MWH SALES INC.
140 Rodney St
Brooklyn NY 11211
The Wireless Expert

Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on May 25, 2020, 02:32:20 PM
MWH SALES INC.
140 Rodney St
Brooklyn NY 11211
The Wireless Expert
TY
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 25, 2020, 02:36:09 PM

Do you have a way to add words to the t9 dictionary.  Maybe auto add all name in contacts?


I can add this, I will see what I can do
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 25, 2020, 05:27:36 PM
It is not the same chip as the LG exalt or the Alcatels.

I was reffering to the schock which appears to have the same chip ,yet less responsive key presses. See attached pics. Both are qualcomm msm8909 know as 210
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on May 25, 2020, 08:09:39 PM
I am almost done making this phone kosher, I have been personally using it now for almost 2 months. It will be one of the most popular devices once i am done.
What's the name of this phone?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 25, 2020, 08:54:54 PM
I was reffering to the schock which appears to have the same chip ,yet less responsive key presses. See attached pics. Both are qualcomm msm8909 know as 210

You where referring to the NUU which is MTK. 999.99% of 4G LTE flip phones have the same MSM8909
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 25, 2020, 09:44:56 PM
You where referring to the NUU which is MTK. 999.99% of 4G LTE flip phones have the same MSM8909

Sorry.
Can you explain why some phones (especially alcatel go flip) feel unresponsive with slightly delayed keypress while the exalt just feels good? Is it the hardware, inefficient programming slowing everything down or simply settings to only register key presses after a longer amount of time?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 25, 2020, 11:30:04 PM
Sorry.
Can you explain why some phones (especially alcatel go flip) feel unresponsive with slightly delayed keypress while the exalt just feels good? Is it the hardware, inefficient programming slowing everything down or simply settings to only register key presses after a longer amount of time?

The Alcatel phones that you are talking about run Kaios and not andriod. I can fix and speed things up in both. The go flip 4044 series has a very poor Kaios 1.0 OS. The new smartflip are running 2.5 which is 100X better. 
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 26, 2020, 12:45:41 PM
The Alcatel phones that you are talking about run Kaios and not andriod. I can fix and speed things up in both. The go flip 4044 series has a very poor Kaios 1.0 OS. The new smartflip are running 2.5 which is 100X better. 

I have used both the 4044 (sprint and tmobile version) as well as the cricket smartflips. Can you explain why they are so slow? And if both the LG exalt and Schock are running android with the same chips is the Schock slower? (Esp confusing bc the schock has a newer version of android)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on May 26, 2020, 01:45:47 PM
The Alcatel phones that you are talking about run Kaios and not andriod. I can fix and speed things up in both. The go flip 4044 series has a very poor Kaios 1.0 OS. The new smartflip are running 2.5 which is 100X better. 
When did the new smartflip come out? becacuse i had the goflip on sprint and when i bought it i dont believe there was a newer model to get but when i search now for the goflip it looks like a whole different phone, is it the same as the new smartflip, or is the go flip a different product
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 26, 2020, 02:58:14 PM
I have used both the 4044 (sprint and tmobile version) as well as the cricket smartflips. Can you explain why they are so slow? And if both the LG exalt and Schock are running android with the same chips is the Schock slower? (Esp confusing bc the schock has a newer version of android)

It's also the way the operating system is built from the ODM. The Alcatel 4052 series is a huge improvement from the 4044 series phones. The Schock is a great device.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 26, 2020, 02:59:02 PM
When did the new smartflip come out? becacuse i had the goflip on sprint and when i bought it i dont believe there was a newer model to get but when i search now for the goflip it looks like a whole different phone, is it the same as the new smartflip, or is the go flip a different product

About 6 months or so. Sprint does not have it. The 4052 series is what replaced the 4044, it comes with a better OS and has whatsapp, etc.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on May 26, 2020, 04:12:16 PM
About 6 months or so. Sprint does not have it. The 4052 series is what replaced the 4044, it comes with a better OS and has whatsapp, etc.
Are they planning on making it for sprint also? otherwise what would you recommend as the best flip phone for sprint?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on May 26, 2020, 05:17:41 PM
Are they planning on making it for sprint also? otherwise what would you recommend as the best flip phone for sprint?

The Tmobile one supports the Sprint bands but you have to see if it works.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 26, 2020, 06:17:54 PM
Does anyone know the code for the engineering menu on the Lg exalt VN220? I want to enable the bands for Tmobile.

I have managed to get it on the wine UN220 but seems to be disabled in the verizon version.

Would it work to pull an apk from the UN220 and pus to VN?

Thanks.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: tkcentral on May 26, 2020, 06:42:59 PM
Does anyone have the lg wine or exalt 4g with WiFi calling for sale I have a T-Mobile plan
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: KosherRalph on May 27, 2020, 04:56:06 PM
I believe wing operates on the sprint network, if so the answer would be no. It does not work with wing
Wing just started with Verizon service for $20 a month.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: KosherRalph on May 27, 2020, 04:57:17 PM
Does anyone have the lg wine or exalt 4g with WiFi calling for sale I have a T-Mobile plan
KosherCell.org has a few left. Send an email to info@koshercell.org.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on May 31, 2020, 12:04:01 AM
Wing just started with Verizon service for $20 a month.
Do they shut down for a little over-usage like RedPocket?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 31, 2020, 12:28:41 AM
KosherCell.org has a few left. Send an email to info@koshercell.org.

They are able to activate wifi calling with tmobile?  What about VoLTE?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on May 31, 2020, 04:05:24 AM
I can add this, I will see what I can do
This would be great!
Specially for us Yiden that have alot of unpopular names, and you search the contacts for these names, and you also use these names in text etc.
Would also be great if t9 can go thru your text and suggest words that are in your previous text.
(For example, if I have anywhere in my text the word Mazel Tov, t9 should suggest it when typing 62935), my old 3g Sprint phone had already this feature
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: aygart on May 31, 2020, 11:51:07 AM
This would be great!
Specially for us Yiden that have alot of unpopular names, and you search the contacts for these names, and you also use these names in text etc.
Would also be great if t9 can go thru your text and suggest words that are in your previous text.
(For example, if I have anywhere in my text the word Mazel Tov, t9 should suggest it when typing 62935), my old 3g Sprint phone had already this feature
The old swype keyboard had the option to go through your texts and emails to add words to the dictionary. Another feature may be to be able to add easily from any "typed" word.

The disadvantage of adding auto is that it adds typos.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Little Bob on May 31, 2020, 12:33:47 PM
Does anyone know if the Schok phone works with page plus?. I thought that it should work but when I put in the Imei number on page pluses site it said its not compatible, stating I t may be because its not a cdma compatible phone. I was wondering if this is outdated info as page plus is using gsm now. Any ideas?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Little Bob on May 31, 2020, 01:07:12 PM
I got a different message from page plus saying that the phone isnt volte, although the manual online shows that it is volte. I want to try the Schok, just dont want to be stuck with a phone the I cant return after opening it. Any ideas?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 31, 2020, 02:26:57 PM
Its an unlocked phone so prob not entered into their database so no real way to know.
Ive used the schock on tmobile and have gotten HD Calling but not wifi calling despite the tmobile website not being able to find it.

I have also tried the un220 and vn220 on tmobile and cricket havent had too much luck with volte

Its a cool phone though
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yesitsme on May 31, 2020, 03:14:36 PM
I cant activate WIFI calling with sonim XP3 I get stuck in the zip field anyone had such issues?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on May 31, 2020, 05:16:31 PM
I am almost done making this phone kosher, I have been personally using it now for almost 2 months. It will be one of the most popular devices once i am done.

What's the model? Does it support non-VZW bands?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on May 31, 2020, 05:21:19 PM
I can add this, I will see what I can do

How about Hebrew/Yiddish input?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 31, 2020, 05:37:30 PM
How about Hebrew/Yiddish input?
Already available.
https://www.apps4flip.com/apps/
https://kosherappsforflip.wixsite.com/kosherappsforflip/lg-exalt

These are 2 different websites with 2 different sets of apps although it appears like they know each other.

I personally like the 2nd ones apps better
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on May 31, 2020, 05:40:40 PM
What's the model? Does it support non-VZW bands?

Radio Bands: LTE (B2,B4,B5,B12,B66, R25)/CDMA(BC0,BC1)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 01, 2020, 10:20:41 PM
I got a different message from page plus saying that the phone isnt volte, although the manual online shows that it is volte. I want to try the Schok, just dont want to be stuck with a phone the I cant return after opening it. Any ideas?

The Schok works fine with page plus. the issue is that its not a very well known phone. Even verizon doesnt know that they support it. It is both CDMA and GSM. You can buy it from target with a liberal return policy to play it safe.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Little Bob on June 02, 2020, 12:28:43 AM
Thanks, actually I bought it and tried it with my wifes sim from page plus and it worked. I currently have a 3g CDMA phone and was planning on switching to a sim with the Schok. I called page plus today and they told me since  the imei is not compatible with page plus they cant register the sim. I told them that although  the phone shows on their end as non compatible  I had tried my wifes sim in the phone and it worked. They said they dont just register a sim, its needs to be together with a phone. I asked them if I can register the sim with my wifes phone and then just put in in my phone. They said no. Any ideas?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shnu on June 02, 2020, 09:00:35 AM
Is there a way to get the lg wine 2 to work on Verizon regular? Not pre paid(that works already)btw its a great phone, they fixed all the flaws from the exalt.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on June 02, 2020, 10:11:27 AM
Anybody knows the cheapest Verizon reseller for talk or talk + text?
Ideally it would be an annual plan as I only use it occasionally.

Or is there a dedicated thread for plans?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 02, 2020, 10:34:49 AM
Is there a way to get the lg wine 2 to work on Verizon regular? Not pre paid(that works already)btw its a great phone, they fixed all the flaws from the exalt.
Is it locked?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 02, 2020, 10:36:26 AM
Thanks, actually I bought it and tried it with my wifes sim from page plus and it worked. I currently have a 3g CDMA phone and was planning on switching to a sim with the Schok. I called page plus today and they told me since  the imei is not compatible with page plus they cant register the sim. I told them that although  the phone shows on their end as non compatible  I had tried my wifes sim in the phone and it worked. They said they dont just register a sim, its needs to be together with a phone. I asked them if I can register the sim with my wifes phone and then just put in in my phone. They said no. Any ideas?
Dont tell them thats your plan?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on June 02, 2020, 10:58:21 AM
Do they shut down for a little over-usage like RedPocket?
anyone know?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on June 02, 2020, 11:04:06 AM
Thanks, actually I bought it and tried it with my wifes sim from page plus and it worked. I currently have a 3g CDMA phone and was planning on switching to a sim with the Schok. I called page plus today and they told me since  the imei is not compatible with page plus they cant register the sim. I told them that although  the phone shows on their end as non compatible  I had tried my wifes sim in the phone and it worked. They said they dont just register a sim, its needs to be together with a phone. I asked them if I can register the sim with my wifes phone and then just put in in my phone. They said no. Any ideas?
I don't think it makes sense that it shouldn't work getting activated from your wife's phone. Try it.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: KosherRalph on June 02, 2020, 05:35:58 PM
Anybody knows the cheapest Verizon reseller for talk or talk + text?
Ideally it would be an annual plan as I only use it occasionally.

Or is there a dedicated thread for plans?
Wingalpha.com has Verizon plans fro $19.99 unlimited talk and text.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: KosherRalph on June 02, 2020, 05:38:27 PM
Is it locked?
It's not locked. It works for outgoing calls but not for incoming. It's strange. When I stuck a Mint Mobile SIM into it, the data worked but it wouldnt let me call. There was no option to put in an unlock code.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 02, 2020, 08:48:04 PM
Thanks, actually I bought it and tried it with my wifes sim from page plus and it worked. I currently have a 3g CDMA phone and was planning on switching to a sim with the Schok. I called page plus today and they told me since  the imei is not compatible with page plus they cant register the sim. I told them that although  the phone shows on their end as non compatible  I had tried my wifes sim in the phone and it worked. They said they dont just register a sim, its needs to be together with a phone. I asked them if I can register the sim with my wifes phone and then just put in in my phone. They said no. Any ideas?
You have to activate it on another line. Happens sometimes with verizon even. I can have a verizon kyocera cadence that they will tell me cant be activated bec it "doesn't exist". I just give them a diff imei and put the sim into the phone i want to use. No problem.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 02, 2020, 08:50:17 PM
Is there a way to get the lg wine 2 to work on Verizon regular? Not pre paid(that works already)btw its a great phone, they fixed all the flaws from the exalt.

Hi just curious. where did you buy the phone from? Is it the US Cellular version?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on June 02, 2020, 08:54:01 PM
You have to activate it on another line. Happens sometimes with verizon even. I can have a verizon kyocera cadence that they will tell me cant be activated bec it "doesn't exist". I just give them a diff imei and put the sim into the phone i want to use. No problem.
I wonder if it's the same issue I have with USMobile says my IMEI of the Candace isn't valid because "Prepay ineligible" (sort of like a Verizon lock) can I provide a different ime and just pop in the sim?

I would try but I don't have a working IMEI
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 02, 2020, 08:58:08 PM
Anybody knows the cheapest Verizon reseller for talk or talk + text?
Ideally it would be an annual plan as I only use it occasionally.

Or is there a dedicated thread for plans?

(There is a dedicated thread)
Red pocket has for 19 per month for annual via ebay, but they shut do shut down for over usage as does presumably any MVNO. thats part of the reason that they are cheaper.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 02, 2020, 08:59:18 PM
I wonder if it's the same issue I have with USMobile says my IMEI of the Candace isn't valid because "Prepay ineligible" (sort of like a Verizon lock) can I provide a different ime and just pop in the sim?

I would try but I don't have a working IMEI

does your cadence model number end in PP? How long did you use it on verizon so far? 
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on June 02, 2020, 08:59:40 PM
(There is a dedicated thread)
Red pocket has for 19 per month for annual via ebay, but they shut do shut down for over usage as does presumably any MVNO. thats part of the reason that they are cheaper.
Link?
I don't use much anyways
USMobile $10
Tello (sprint) $8
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on June 02, 2020, 09:00:51 PM
does your cadence model number end in PP? How long did you use it on verizon so far?
I have 5pcs 4 never used, 1 was just activated today on Verizon prepaid
S2720PP
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 02, 2020, 09:03:44 PM
so then the actual device is probably locked to prepaid. If you put a non-verizon sim in you will be prompted for an unlock code. Once you use it for a while you can call verizon to get the code. Or just try your luck with verizon now...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on June 02, 2020, 09:05:56 PM
so then the actual device is probably locked to prepaid. If you put a non-verizon sim in you will be prompted for an unlock code. Once you use it for a while you can call verizon to get the code. Or just try your luck with verizon now...
Is a Verizon mvno (USMobile) considered "non" Verizon?

I spent 3 hours on the phone with Verizon today no luck
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 02, 2020, 09:06:43 PM
Link?
I don't use much anyways
USMobile $10
Tello (sprint) $8

Here is the link to red pocket but you seem to have cheaper options
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133058473014
Wing also looks like a good service for $19
https://www.wingalpha.com
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 02, 2020, 09:08:30 PM
Is a Verizon mvno (USMobile) considered "non" Verizon?

I spent 3 hours on the phone with Verizon today no luck

Not sure. never tried. did it prompt you for an unlock code? Easier to borrow a friends Att or t mobile et al, sim and then call verizon once you get the unlock prompt
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on June 02, 2020, 09:10:07 PM
Not sure. never tried. did it prompt you for an unlock code? Easier to borrow a friends Att or t mobile et al, sim and then call verizon once you get the unlock prompt
I have other sims to try, they all prompt for code, question is about USMobile which I don't have sim yet

Hold time is ridiculously long and agents are clueless, those who know what they're talking about refused to do it (it's their known policy)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 02, 2020, 09:44:07 PM
I have other sims to try, they all prompt for code, question is about USMobile which I don't have sim yet

Hold time is ridiculously long and agents are clueless, those who know what they're talking about refused to do it (it's their known policy)
Yes US mobile will also require device to be unlocked before use. you can try putting in a verizon prepaid sim that has been active for a while (1month+) and see if they will do it then. some reps will do it even earlier but ymmv. Try to reach the postpaid dept and then they will (sometimes) transfer you to the right dept.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 03, 2020, 12:50:35 AM
I am almost done making this phone kosher, I have been personally using it now for almost 2 months. It will be one of the most popular devices once i am done.

It seems like they took the exalt, made the screen a bit smaller (better form factor) and dummed down the camera from 5 megapixel to 2 AND removed the autofocus (the photos probably look like the cadences' now. why is that good? Everyone will buy it just for lack of a better option. They are selling the exalt for $300+ in Boro Park now. and everyone is buying it even though the durability of these phones are terrible!! If someone went ahead and created a good phone from the ground up, even though it would be expensive, they could make a fortune if designed right.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shnu on June 03, 2020, 09:31:50 AM
Hi just curious. where did you buy the phone from? Is it the US Cellular version?
yes
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 03, 2020, 12:34:57 PM
yes

So that works with Verizon prepaid without any unlocking? wow. you bought it from US cellular as locked? Or paid in full?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: mbelsky on June 03, 2020, 12:38:52 PM
I just got a verizon kyocera DuraXV Extreme for my wifes grandma. Its the best flip phone out there. Only availabke from verizon with service, but i found in a local store and got them to sell to me without service. Then i added a line to vzw with a diff phone for 45 days to get their byod 250 gc promo and that makes the phone $16. Since the promo requires a smartphone, port in, smartphone must remain active for 45 days, but line mist remain for a year. After 45 days we will swap the Kyocera onto the line.

The previous model is also great. Just slightly smaller battery and slower 32-bit processor vs faster 64 bit. Also usb c vs usb micro. This phone is military spec and has a 2 year manufacturers warranty. Military standard 810G for Dust, shock, vibration, temp extremes, blowing rain, low pressure, humidity, etc. Drop proof up to 5 feet onto concrete, IP68 dust and waterproof. I can also confirm the extreme takes a 128gb micro sd card. Speaker phone qhality is insane on both ends.

Make this a kosher phone and you'll absolutely kill the market.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 03, 2020, 04:44:52 PM
I just got a verizon kyocera DuraXV Extreme for my wifes grandma. Its the best flip phone out there. Only availabke from verizon with service, but i found in a local store and got them to sell to me without service. Then i added a line to vzw with a diff phone for 45 days to get their byod 250 gc promo and that makes the phone $16. Since the promo requires a smartphone, port in, smartphone must remain active for 45 days, but line mist remain for a year. After 45 days we will swap the Kyocera onto the line.

That sounds awsome!
Did you open the new line first, then use the gift card to bug the phone  or as it sounds like from the post you first got it from the store?

Also does the byod plan require you to port a number or can it be a brand new line?
Do you need a preexisting verizon account?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 03, 2020, 04:53:22 PM
Make this a kosher phone and you'll absolutely kill the market.

1)seems like this is heing worked on by the one and only @Kosher_Cellutions see his website https://www.kosherfone.com/new-releases

2) Many will not like the rugged lool and feel. A friend who does not have any technical leanings was given one of these by Verizon to replace his broken exalt and complained about how bulky and unclassy it is. Payed much much more than you would imagine for a replacement used Exalt. So it might be difficult to convince people to adopt.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on June 03, 2020, 07:43:22 PM
1)seems like this is heing worked on by the one and only @Kosher_Cellutions see his website https://www.kosherfone.com/new-releases

2) Many will not like the rugged lool and feel. A friend who does not have any technical leanings was given one of these by Verizon to replace his broken exalt and complained about how bulky and unclassy it is. Payed much much more than you would imagine for a replacement used Exalt. So it might be difficult to convince people to adopt.

Its to big, I prefer the E4610 to be honest.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on June 03, 2020, 09:50:14 PM
Can someone please help me out, i have been trying to follow the conversation for the last few while but i am getting a bit lost, it seems like most of the phones being discussed are for verizon. which phones are compatible with sprint, and are there any that can support google maps while still removing the browser. TIA
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 03, 2020, 10:47:17 PM
Can someone please help me out, i have been trying to follow the conversation for the last few while but i am getting a bit lost, it seems like most of the phones being discussed are for verizon. which phones are compatible with sprint, and are there any that can support google maps while still removing the browser. TIA
Maybe its time for a wiki of all available phones and their respective filtering options and capabilities.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jeremiah on June 03, 2020, 11:02:55 PM
I have the kyocera cadence and it keeps telling me that the usb port is over heating and it blocks the phone from actually charging. Has anyone had a similar issue with this phone?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: EliJelly on June 04, 2020, 12:28:01 AM
Perhaps not the appropriate thread for this question, but I'm sure all those with flip phones suffer from Tovia mayer phone calls and the like. I wonder how others dealt with that.
Is there a way to block a phone number without the call recording going straight to voicemail?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shnu on June 04, 2020, 09:23:32 AM
So that works with Verizon prepaid without any unlocking? wow. you bought it from US cellular as locked? Or paid in full?
not sure kosher Ralph sold it to me
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on June 04, 2020, 02:46:19 PM
Yes US mobile will also require device to be unlocked before use. you can try putting in a verizon prepaid sim that has been active for a while (1month+) and see if they will do it then. some reps will do it even earlier but ymmv. Try to reach the postpaid dept and then they will (sometimes) transfer you to the right dept.
Had no luck with Verizon reps, $50 spend is strict rule.
However it does look like Verizon mvno sim (USMobile) doesn't prompt for an unlock code, I still can't activate it using the locked devices IMEI however I wonder if I can activate on a donor IMEI and just pop in the USMobile sim
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 04, 2020, 09:37:58 PM
I just got a verizon kyocera DuraXV Extreme for my wifes grandma. Its the best flip phone out there. Only availabke from verizon with service, but i found in a local store and got them to sell to me without service. Then i added a line to vzw with a diff phone for 45 days to get their byod 250 gc promo and that makes the phone $16. Since the promo requires a smartphone, port in, smartphone must remain active for 45 days, but line mist remain for a year. After 45 days we will swap the Kyocera onto the line.

The previous model is also great. Just slightly smaller battery and slower 32-bit processor vs faster 64 bit. Also usb c vs usb micro. This phone is military spec and has a 2 year manufacturers warranty. Military standard 810G for Dust, shock, vibration, temp extremes, blowing rain, low pressure, humidity, etc. Drop proof up to 5 feet onto concrete, IP68 dust and waterproof. I can also confirm the extreme takes a 128gb micro sd card. Speaker phone qhality is insane on both ends.

Make this a kosher phone and you'll absolutely kill the market.

Sounds good but 99% of the people I know would not walk around with a brick like that in their pocket. It is ridiculously huge! Why cant we take that same phone and just put it into a nicer package? why would Kyocera limit their audience so much??
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 04, 2020, 09:40:50 PM
Maybe its time for a wiki of all available phones and their respective filtering options and capabilities.

That sounds like a good idea. I can try to work on that but it will take some time. As far as I know there is only bad news for sprint users. basically no options at all.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 04, 2020, 09:42:13 PM
I have the kyocera cadence and it keeps telling me that the usb port is over heating and it blocks the phone from actually charging. Has anyone had a similar issue with this phone?

I heard about that issue but people reported that it went away after a while. Resetting the phone might work, or try swapping the battery with someone else.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ad120 on June 05, 2020, 02:16:09 AM
Had no luck with Verizon reps, $50 spend is strict rule.
However it does look like Verizon mvno sim (USMobile) doesn't prompt for an unlock code, I still can't activate it using the locked devices IMEI however I wonder if I can activate on a donor IMEI and just pop in the USMobile sim
My friend bought a refurbished cadence for US Mobile. He needed to use a different IMEI to activate service.
Title: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on June 05, 2020, 09:26:44 AM
Had no luck with Verizon reps, $50 spend is strict rule.
However it does look like Verizon mvno sim (USMobile) doesn't prompt for an unlock code, I still can't activate it using the locked devices IMEI however I wonder if I can activate on a donor IMEI and just pop in the USMobile sim
Go on ebay buy this
  https://www.ebay.com/itm/174128066354 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/174128066354)
choose the $50 value one. activate it with your imei. It should solve the $50 rule. use it for 1 month then do whatever you want with your number.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on June 05, 2020, 11:06:36 AM
Go on ebay buy this
  https://www.ebay.com/itm/174128066354 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/174128066354)
choose the $50 value one. activate it with your imei. It should solve the $50 rule. use it for 1 month then do whatever you want with your number.
Good idea, have you confirmed it's working?
How can they sell $50 for $$22?

In any case I guess I need to buy a Verizon sim for each of my devices?

If so my net cost will be $58 instead of $35
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on June 05, 2020, 11:10:33 AM
Good idea, have you confirmed it's working?
How can they sell $50 for $$22?

In any case I guess I need to buy a Verizon sim for each of my devices?

If so my net cost will be $58 instead of $35
Well you get a month of service. And your phone is unlocked
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on June 05, 2020, 11:14:14 AM
Well you get a month of service. And your phone is unlocked
I get it, is it confirmed or it "should" work?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alex Warm on June 05, 2020, 11:37:56 AM
i still have my basic flip phone. and i text with T9, which probably makes me the fastest texter in the world!!  ;) ;)

LoL..!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on June 06, 2020, 08:17:22 PM
If anyone has a Verizon E4610 that wants to make it Kosher or Talk and Text my remote solution is online. My solution allows you to even do a factory reset of the phone. (Factory reset keeps the phone kosher or talk and text still)
https://www.kosherfonewireless.com/kosher-service
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ExGingi on June 07, 2020, 10:54:30 AM
I get it, is it confirmed or it "should" work?

Got a Verizon prepaid at Target a little over a month ago. Package says unlocks after $50. Amount spent but still not working with a US MOBILE SIM.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 07, 2020, 11:12:22 AM
Got a Verizon prepaid at Target a little over a month ago. Package says unlocks after $50. Amount spent but still not working with a US MOBILE SIM.
What happens when you put in the US Mobile Sim? Also go to Settings>about phone>Hardware info and tell me what it says under Model number.
Which target did you get it from? I haven't seen them around in ages!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on June 07, 2020, 06:11:18 PM
Got a Verizon prepaid at Target a little over a month ago. Package says unlocks after $50. Amount spent but still not working with a US MOBILE SIM.
Are you trying to activate with us mobile using the device's IMEI? Or are you just popping in an already active sim?

You can call Verizon to ask about unlock eligibility they have a dashboard that can show it
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: tkcentral on June 07, 2020, 08:40:47 PM
Is there anyway to filter the lg exalt with leaving on WiFi calling
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: aygart on June 08, 2020, 10:00:02 AM
Is there anyway to filter the lg exalt with leaving on WiFi calling
I think the standard filter leaves it.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on June 08, 2020, 12:02:55 PM
Got a Verizon prepaid at Target a little over a month ago. Package says unlocks after $50. Amount spent but still not working with a US MOBILE SIM.
You gotta call Verizon to unlock
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 08, 2020, 08:21:48 PM
Maybe its time for a wiki of all available phones and their respective filtering options and capabilities.

Ok I have some sort of a beginning of a wiki on many flip phones. Any specific way it should be posted? Just copy paste it as a regular post? Should I link it as a pdf download? Anyone know what's the best option for this type of long list full of info?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on June 08, 2020, 08:30:49 PM
Ok I have some sort of a beginning of a wiki on many flip phones. Any specific way it should be posted? Just copy paste it as a regular post? Should I link it as a pdf download? Anyone know what's the best option for this type of long list full of info?
THANK YOU!
If it will come out decently by copy paste, do that, theres no reason to make it harder to access, but if it will lose the chart aspect, you can either make it a pdf, or if its a google doc/sheet you can publish it to the web and they give you a link.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 09, 2020, 12:06:52 AM
List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
Please like if this helps you.
LG Exalt LTE VN220 Verizon

   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)
   ATT (3g),
   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different massaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)
   ATT (3g),
   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $150

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)
   ATT (3g),
   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

   Can be  koshered: Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
   Verizon (4g)
   ATT (3g),
   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system.


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)
   ATT (4g),
   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)

Verizon Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.com and direct from Wing.
I dont have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  dont have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Cant be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Cant be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. Youre getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why cant we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even dare I ask for a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if theres no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. Thats gonna have to change by the end of 2020 but if you put things into perspective, thats AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.


Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: EliJelly on June 09, 2020, 12:20:40 AM
No mention of the LG Exalt vn220 bugs? This alone should put it in shadow of the Kyocera phones.

Any preference for the new Kyocera DuraXV Extreme over the old?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: phillyrabbi on June 09, 2020, 12:15:38 PM
Does anyone know where I can buy a kosher phone with a QWERTY keypad - GSM 4G Unlocked? If someone's selling please pm me. Need this to work with T-Mobile. Thank you
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 09, 2020, 01:35:36 PM
No mention of the LG Exalt vn220 bugs? This alone should put it in shadow of the Kyocera phones.

Any preference for the new Kyocera DuraXV Extreme over the old?
Some of the  bugs can be fixed/ have workarounds.
Its the most functional of all the above
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 09, 2020, 01:43:55 PM
No mention of the LG Exalt vn220 bugs? This alone should put it in shadow of the Kyocera phones.

Any preference for the new Kyocera DuraXV Extreme over the old?
Just curious what bugs in specific you are talking about? No go to home screen while on a call? t9 doesnt add contacts to dictionary?

In regards to the Dura XV, here is a pretty comprehensive review from verizons website

★★★★☆4 out of 5.
Steve2 months ago
A nice upgrade from the DuraXV
After owning the Kyocera DuraXV for a year and being reasonably pleased with its performance, I just had to take the leap for the Extreme. Still early in the game here with it but overall to me it was worth the upgrade.
 
 Here are my personal pros and cons with the new Extreme version:
 
 Pros:
 * It feels somewhat more robust in the hand. It's still encased in a plastic body with hard rubber around the outer corners. It is certainly comfortable to hold and my hands are about average sized. It might be slightly heavier than the former DuraXV. Not a big deal. Battery capacity is a little more, not by much though. Kyocera claims safely dropping it from up to 5 feet but I'm not sure I would want to test that. I've owned older Motorola phones that you could drop a concrete block on and not even think twice about it. This one, well, I suppose you could beat it around some but even so treat it nicely when you can :)
 
 * Faster processor. The phone boots up faster than the former DuraXV and the phone overall has a snappier feel to it. This in itself makes it a worthy upgrade if for nothing else.
 
 * The flip is springy and robust. It's a U-shape as compared to the former V-shape. I certainly dig the new U-shape!
 
 * The display is just as clear as the former. Easy to see in the daylight.
 
 * The keypad buttons are a little softer this time. But still about the same as the DuraXV.
 
 * Call quality appears to be as good as before. Very easy to hear on the ear piece and speaker phone is LOUD. Phone ringer is also LOUD, perhaps even louder than the former XV. Reports from the caller is that I was heard loud and strong on their end. The handset now supports a noise reduction which I tested and could tell some difference. With NR on, you have to speak a little louder into the handset which make sense. For most of us buying just to own a better grade basic phone, you might could turn it off. It would be more useful out in a noisy work area as opposed to a quieter home environment.
 
 * Software is MUCH better. An improved updated version of AOSP. Texting screen is different, perhaps a little something new to get used to but not bad. Texts show up in a bubble instead of just plain old print on the screen as before.
 
 * Camera is ok, about like before. It won't win awards but for capturing something on the fly, it works fine. Its all you need if you're buying a handset such as this.
 
 * The outside screen has not changed (which is a good thing).
 
 Cons:
 * The outside button placement: The up/down volume controls are now located on the lower left hand side of the phone where a person's middle finger would rest and its easy to forget and to squeeze the handset thereby disturbing the setting. Not a good choice here, Kyocera.
 
 * The outside buttons are also easier to push - their tactile feel is softer which means they can be easily triggered. With the former DuraXV, you had to "push" the button of your choice. This one simply requires a generally soft push, especially the up/down volume which is a hassle.
 
 * The phone now supports USB-C instead of the universal micro-USB. I know, I'm probably going to get some down thumbs for this but I consider it a personal preference. I want my micro-USB port back! I have loads of micro-USB cables and yes there is a USB-C cable included in the box but now I have to invest in a mobile charger that supports the C cable. Bummer!
 
 Some final notes:
 * Micro SD card support works fine as with the DuraXV. I use a Sandisk 64gb mobile (red/gray) card and it works flawlessly. Same my camera pics on it and works great.
 
 * Battery charging speed is about on par with the DuraXV. From 50% to full takes around 40 minutes, maybe a little longer. Not bad for a basic phone.
 
 In short- Would I recommend this phone? Yep! If you just bought the older XV, meh, wait it out and enjoy what you have but if you've owned an XV for a while and want to upgrade to a faster handset with improved features and overall just a good reliable basic phone, you won't go wrong with the Extreme. Just keep in mind that this thing is built heavy duty. It isn't for everyone and for some it might be a bit bulky, even a touch more bulky than the original DuraXV. Apart from the quirky outside buttons and USB-C, this is definitely the phone for me!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 09, 2020, 01:48:28 PM
Some of the  bugs can be fixed/ have workarounds.
Its the most functional of all the above

True that some bugs have workarounds, but what do you mean by most functional? I think a front screen and being able to use the home screen are very imoortant functions. I think people just prefer the look of LG over the cadence...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on June 09, 2020, 03:33:56 PM
added to wiki
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shnu on June 14, 2020, 03:13:15 PM
does anybody know if a locked tracfone can be used on verizon regular?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 14, 2020, 07:44:48 PM
does anybody know if a locked tracfone can be used on verizon regular?

To the best of my knowledge NO. It will come up as no network. my case was a Tracfone Samsung j3.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on June 18, 2020, 12:04:21 AM
My new service is out for Samsung Smart phones. Basically a nice MDM solution that can do whatever to the phones. Even make the phone a Waze only device.  My price is the cheapest you will find around and with the best support. I see people charging $100-150 for the same service and it should not really cost this much.

www.koshershield.com
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 18, 2020, 02:34:35 PM
My new service is out for Samsung Smart phones. Basically a nice MDM solution that can do whatever to the phones. Even make the phone a Waze only device.  My price is the cheapest you will find around and with the best support. I see people charging $100-150 for the same service and it should not really cost this much.

www.koshershield.com
The excuse always that MDM providers charge a monthly licensing fee? How do you avoid that?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on June 18, 2020, 08:17:07 PM
The excuse always that MDM providers charge a monthly licensing fee? How do you avoid that?

I own my solution and the servers  ;D. Others just license the tech from someone else. I just made WhatsApp kosher btw. No pictures or videos.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: AnonymousUser on June 18, 2020, 09:58:10 PM
Are there any viable options for Sprint? (Yes, I saw the wiki).
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on June 18, 2020, 10:06:09 PM
I just finished the Alcatel Flip for Sprint 4044T.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yesitsme on June 18, 2020, 11:24:19 PM
My new service is out for Samsung Smart phones. Basically a nice MDM solution that can do whatever to the phones. Even make the phone a Waze only device.  My price is the cheapest you will find around and with the best support. I see people charging $100-150 for the same service and it should not really cost this much.

www.koshershield.com

Can not send or receive PICTURES, VIDEOS, or Website Links. Calling and Typing only!

voice notes?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: username on June 19, 2020, 10:55:01 AM
Has anyone gotten Waze to work on LG Exalt LTE VN220? I followed all the instructions, and its fully on my phone, but i am not able to enter an address. (cant get my cursor into the address field).

Same issue I have with Smart list. I can enter a name, but cannot figure out how to 'scroll down" to select and dial the number.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 19, 2020, 11:05:36 AM
Has anyone gotten Waze to work on LG Exalt LTE VN220? I followed all the instructions, and its fully on my phone, but i am not able to enter an address. (cant get my cursor into the address field).

Same issue I have with Smart list. I can enter a name, but cannot figure out how to 'scroll down" to select and dial the number.
Yes I have in multiple phones....
You need to download the app called Waze Launcher

Which website did you use?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on June 19, 2020, 12:41:07 PM
Can not send or receive PICTURES, VIDEOS, or Website Links. Calling and Typing only!

voice notes?

Voice Notes are fine
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: username on June 19, 2020, 02:20:22 PM
Yes I have in multiple phones....
You need to download the app called Waze Launcher

Which website did you use?


Thank you!  Any advice for Smart List?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: username on June 19, 2020, 02:26:43 PM
And I installed the "home screen" fix from the PC with the installer. How do I activate it while on a call?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 19, 2020, 02:41:15 PM
Thank you!  Any advice for Smart List?
Uninstalled bc I never used it. Sorry. Used a lot of background data and made probs with contacts.

And I installed the "home screen" fix from the PC with the installer. How do I activate it while on a call?
Did you read the instructions I recommend saving the contact as "(1)" so it will always be on top then new cal > contacts >(1)> go
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: username on June 19, 2020, 03:57:13 PM
Did you read the instructions I recommend saving the contact as "(1)" so it will always be on top then new cal > contacts >(1)> go

Where are instructions...can you share a link please?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 19, 2020, 04:11:30 PM
Where are instructions...can you share a link please?
On the page where you downloaded the app
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on June 20, 2020, 11:26:58 PM
Thank you!  Any advice for Smart List?
The waze launcher from the newer apps flip site is much better, it uses google
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 21, 2020, 02:05:33 AM
The waze launcher from the newer apps flip site is much better, it uses google
Sometimes when I install it on a Kyocera Cadence it crashes when I hit search. any advice? Waze opens fine, just the launcher, making issues. (old non-google launcher and tapping link from text messages also work okay)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: username on June 21, 2020, 11:30:44 AM
Are there any flip phones/ phone service, that I can control what numbers are allowed to be called or texted? Does not need to be kosher.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 21, 2020, 11:31:51 AM
Are there any flip phones/ phone service, that I can control what numbers are allowed to be called or texted? Does not need to be kosher.
Try doing it through the phone company?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: username on June 21, 2020, 11:42:23 AM
Any of them more friendly than others?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on June 21, 2020, 02:16:06 PM
Are there any flip phones/ phone service, that I can control what numbers are allowed to be called or texted? Does not need to be kosher.

I can do it for you. Which phone is it for?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on June 21, 2020, 02:17:45 PM
Just letting everyone know I am ready to release my Kosher Whatsapp filtering service for flip phones. www.KosherWhatsApp.com
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 21, 2020, 02:32:30 PM
Just letting everyone know I am ready to release my Kosher Whatsapp filtering service for flip phones. www.KosherWhatsApp.com
The WhatsApp service will work on the Exalt too? Not entirely clear from website if all phones are eligible for WhatsApp or only kashering........

How will video calling work with a flip phone where the camera and screen are not together? Are you gonna sell a periscope mirror attachment?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on June 21, 2020, 02:39:22 PM
The WhatsApp service will work on the Exalt too? Not entirely clear from website if all phones are eligible for WhatsApp or only kashering........

How will video calling work with a flip phone where the camera and screen are not together? Are you gonna sell a periscope mirror attachment?

It will work on the the VN220, The phones that have a front facing camera like the NUU phone video works on the phones main screen. ? No mirror attachment. The service is for koshering the Whatsapp and blocking receiving and sending pictures, videos, and more.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 21, 2020, 02:41:09 PM
It will work on the the VN220, The phones that have a front facing camera like the NUU phone video works on the phones main screen. ? No mirror attachment. The service is for koshering the Whatsapp and blocking receiving and sending pictures, videos, and more.
Dont people have pic texting? Is there a huge difference?
Can you only block pictures in groups while allowing private pic sharing?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on June 21, 2020, 02:42:29 PM
Dont people have pic texting? Is there a huge difference?
Can you only block pictures in groups while allowing private pic sharing?

No Pictures are blocked completely. For those that have a Talk only device we block everything and keep Voice Notes and Voice Calling. Some users have a Talk and Text device without MMS/Pictures.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: username on June 21, 2020, 04:51:45 PM
I can do it for you. Which phone is it for?
Alcatel Sparq II   GSM
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on June 21, 2020, 07:11:26 PM
Alcatel Sparq II   GSM

I have it only for the newest flip phones.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Happyallways on June 23, 2020, 05:14:06 PM
Anyone an help me install Verizon message plus on the new Kyocere extreme phone? i got the apk from the duraxv and i installed it an works but i can subscribe for integrated messages anyone can help?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yosel on June 23, 2020, 06:54:29 PM
I am looking to buy a LG Exalt VN220, may be a used one.
TIA
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shnu on June 26, 2020, 10:16:34 AM
Hi having an issue logging in to my gsuite email on the kyocera phone. i turned off less secure apps and 2 step authentication. Does anybody know of a workaround?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: KosherRalph on June 26, 2020, 10:56:50 AM
List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
Please like if this helps you.
LG Exalt LTE VN220 Verizon

   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)
   ATT (3g),
   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different massaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)
   ATT (3g),
   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $150

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)
   ATT (3g),
   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

   Can be  koshered: Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
   Verizon (4g)
   ATT (3g),
   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system.


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)
   ATT (4g),
   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)

Verizon Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.com and direct from Wing.
I dont have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  dont have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Cant be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Cant be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. Youre getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why cant we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even dare I ask for a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if theres no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. Thats gonna have to change by the end of 2020 but if you put things into perspective, thats AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.
Great List! Thanks for the shout out to KosherCell. Just a correction, the website is KosherCell.org not .com.

The reason people use Sprint so much is because it's way cheaper per month. Like $8 on Tello instead of at least $19 on Verizon for unlimited.
Another benefit with Sprint is since they haven't shut down 3g yet, you can get cheaper devices. We have numerous options with kosher 3g Sprint devices. Best of all... you can get the qwerty keyboard phones.
Anyone remember and miss the blackberry phones with the rolling trackball? Those are available in kosher versions (talk and text, no picture mail) for Sprint MVNO's as well.

The NUU phones come in Talk only and Talk and Text versions. Geder and TAG recently requested that all versions block video playback and video recording so it's blocked now. The NUU is officially a Carrier Unlocked phone and should work well on At&t and T-Mobile as well. Though you may have some initial trouble getting the APN settings set up correctly.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on June 26, 2020, 11:36:55 AM
Hi having an issue logging in to my gsuite email on the kyocera phone. i turned off less secure apps and 2 step authentication. Does anybody know of a workaround?
Less Secure Apps access needs to be On.

What are the exact settings you're using for the IMAP and SMTP?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shnu on June 26, 2020, 11:55:33 AM
using pop3 port 995 ssl/tls. should i do imap?
less secure access is on
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on June 26, 2020, 11:58:22 AM
using pop3 port 995 ssl/tls. should i do imap?
less secure access is on
pop.gmail.com server?

Is POP on (https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#settings/fwdandpop)?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shnu on June 26, 2020, 12:57:37 PM
yes
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on June 26, 2020, 01:07:08 PM
yes
Then you're probably entering some setting wrongly, hard to assume what.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shnu on June 26, 2020, 01:11:52 PM
i saw online that g suite starting june 15th doesn't allow unsecured apps anymore access
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: username on June 26, 2020, 01:14:48 PM
Great List! Thanks for the shout out to KosherCell. Just a correction, the website is KosherCell.org not .com.



WIKI updated.
Anyone can update a wiki, click on the upper left '[ Edit ] - Topic Wiki'. If you make an error, you or anyone can revert it back to the way it was.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on June 26, 2020, 01:16:08 PM
i saw online that g suite starting june 15th doesn't allow unsecured apps anymore access
They delayed it for now https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2020/03/less-secure-app-turn-off-suspended.html
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: KosherRalph on June 29, 2020, 11:16:22 PM
Anybody get their hands on the new LG WINE 2?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 29, 2020, 11:22:30 PM
Anybody get their hands on the new LG WINE 2?
I played around with one at a store. (You would salivate over the price)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 29, 2020, 11:53:54 PM
Anybody get their hands on the new LG WINE 2?
Got a US Cellular one, but am having a real problem figuring out what service it works with. So far,
NO SERVICE: ATT, Verizon Prepaid.
ONLY OUTGOING: Verizon Postpaid
ONLY INTERNET: T-Mobile
Page plus first had only outgoing but eventually started working.
Any hints??
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 29, 2020, 11:57:18 PM
Hi having an issue logging in to my gsuite email on the kyocera phone. i turned off less secure apps and 2 step authentication. Does anybody know of a workaround?
When you attempt to log in are you getting a security email from Gmail? try verifying that it was you that tried to log in and not to block that app.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on June 30, 2020, 12:03:24 AM
Got a US Cellular one, but am having a real problem figuring out what service it works with. So far,
NO SERVICE: ATT, Verizon Prepaid.
ONLY OUTGOING: Verizon Postpaid
ONLY INTERNET: T-Mobile
Page plus first had only outgoing but eventually started working.
Any hints??
Is it locked? IMS Provisioned? Are the APNs correct?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on June 30, 2020, 12:56:56 PM
Is it locked? IMS Provisioned? Are the APNs correct?
Thats what I am unsure about. Doesnt ever prompt for unlock code. Didnt try the APN though. will try that. What is IMS Provisioned?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: gozalim on June 30, 2020, 06:40:46 PM
what options are currently available for physical QWERTY keyboard, (pref feature phone) on ATT?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on June 30, 2020, 07:21:32 PM
Does the Alcatel Go Flip ATT (3) work with 4g on AT&T?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on June 30, 2020, 10:34:48 PM
Does the Alcatel Go Flip ATT (3) work with 4g on AT&T?

 Found this in the wiki.

Quote
Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  dont have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on June 30, 2020, 10:36:03 PM
 What do you guys do to get these flip phones unlocked to use wherever you want?
 bought an unlocking code from ebay or bought an unlocked version?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on June 30, 2020, 10:38:43 PM
Does the Alcatel Go Flip ATT (3) work with 4g on AT&T?
As well as the https://www.target.com/p/cricket-prepaid-alcatel-smartflip-phone-4gb-black/-/A-76616248
 Wonder if this works for at&t.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on June 30, 2020, 10:39:32 PM
Found this in the wiki.
That's where I saw it! Just was wondering since some phones said that they were different "g"s on different networks.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shnu on June 30, 2020, 10:42:19 PM
When you attempt to log in are you getting a security email from Gmail? try verifying that it was you that tried to log in and not to block that app.
didn't get any email from Gmail. I think its an issue with the device.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on June 30, 2020, 10:45:53 PM
That's where I saw it! Just was wondering since some phones said that they were different "g"s on different networks.
Seems like this is the go to phone, but $100 when you can get a similar one for $10-$30.

https://www.target.com/p/schok-classic-flip-phone-gsm-unlocked-8gb-black/-/A-76624611
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on June 30, 2020, 10:48:37 PM
Seems like this is the go to phone, but $100 when you can get a similar one for $10-$30.

https://www.target.com/p/schok-classic-flip-phone-gsm-unlocked-8gb-black/-/A-76624611
Right, for AT&T those are my options - Alcatel Go Flip 3 or Schok. Just need to figure out if I should even consider the Alcatel or go straight to Schok. The only thing reviewers didn't like about it is that the volume buttons are pressable when the phone is closed, so you can end up adjusting the volume by mistake if it's in a pocket or something. But not sure if that's enough of a drawback to not buy it, and it's got to be better than what I have now.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on June 30, 2020, 10:56:33 PM
Right, for AT&T those are my options - Alcatel Go Flip 3 or Schok. Just need to figure out if I should even consider the Alcatel or go straight to Schok. The only thing reviewers didn't like about it is that the volume buttons are pressable when the phone is closed, so you can end up adjusting the volume by mistake if it's in a pocket or something. But not sure if that's enough of a drawback to not buy it, and it's got to be better than what I have now.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1527855-REG/schok_sc3218b_classic_flip_gsm_phone.html

 Nice chart they have for what services it works on.

 I think it's worth spending $200 for two phones and that way i can use it on T-mobile as well after the summer to use in the city.

 Unless i get those other phones but then again i need to find a way to unlock them.

Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on June 30, 2020, 10:58:29 PM
Also btw this phone takes a "nano" sim card - the smallest size, so if yours is bigger you may need to order a new sim from the provider and switch your service over.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on June 30, 2020, 10:59:48 PM
Also btw this phone takes a "nano" sim card - the smallest size, so if yours is bigger you may need to order a new sim from the provider and switch your service over.
Today most have all three sizes.

 What was the story with this device? shows unlocked and works for other carriers as well. wiki can be updated.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552325-REG/nuu_f4l_us_black_f4l_2_8_vga_lte.html

Or for $55 for a refurbished one.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1552325/nuu_f4l_us_black_f4l_2_8_vga_lte.html

Or this one.
 shows on the chart that it would work. ETA...Actually not.
https://www.newegg.com/silver-blu-diva-flip-2-4-2g/p/N82E16875561854
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on June 30, 2020, 11:26:26 PM
My current sim card is the biggest so I would have to order, the new one would be a punch out that you can choose any size.

Not sure what's with the Nuu phone, B&H says it works for AT&T but the wiki says just Verizon. I know two people who have/had it and were not happy with it but that might have been the "kosher" software on it. Upthread it says that there are two different versions of kosher software for it.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on June 30, 2020, 11:28:28 PM
My current sim card is the biggest so I would have to order, the new one would be a punch out that you can choose any size.

Not sure what's with the Nuu phone, B&H says it works for AT&T but the wiki says just Verizon. I know two people who have/had it and were not happy with it but that might have been the "kosher" software on it. Upthread it says that there are two different versions of kosher software for it.
I had a tmobile sim punched out to the smallest one back a few years ago, but didn't come out the greatest but it did work.
 or take a knife and cut it yourself, match it up to a small one.

https://promotions.newegg.com/cellphone/compatibility/cell_phone_compatibility.html
 Wonder if this chart is acurate.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on June 30, 2020, 11:31:47 PM
My current sim card is the biggest so I would have to order, the new one would be a punch out that you can choose any size.

Not sure what's with the Nuu phone, B&H says it works for AT&T but the wiki says just Verizon. I know two people who have/had it and were not happy with it but that might have been the "kosher" software on it. Upthread it says that there are two different versions of kosher software for it.
According to the specs on neweggs website this phone would work on many at&t branded ones.https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1552325/nuu_f4l_us_black_f4l_2_8_vga_lte.html/specs
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on June 30, 2020, 11:52:48 PM
My current sim card is the biggest so I would have to order, the new one would be a punch out that you can choose any size.

Not sure what's with the Nuu phone, B&H says it works for AT&T but the wiki says just Verizon. I know two people who have/had it and were not happy with it but that might have been the "kosher" software on it. Upthread it says that there are two different versions of kosher software for it.
Alcatel QUICKFLIP 4044C | 4G LTE | HD Voice FlipPhone | - GSM Unlocked ($39.99) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PHTYGY7/?tag=cl03f-20&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81ZsHNUlH8L._AC_SX569_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PHTYGY7/?tag=cl03f-20&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

If two out of the three bands are shown on the specs of the phone, will it work? or do you need all the specs for it to work properly?

 Shows  4G LTE: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 12,
 and At&t bands for 4g are 2 / 4 / 17

 Would go for this phone if everything works out.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on July 01, 2020, 12:01:05 AM
Alcatel QUICKFLIP 4044C | 4G LTE | HD Voice FlipPhone | - GSM Unlocked ($39.99) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PHTYGY7/?tag=cl03f-20&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81ZsHNUlH8L._AC_SX569_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PHTYGY7/?tag=cl03f-20&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

If two out of the three bands are shown on the specs of the phone, will it work? or do you need all the specs for it to work properly?

 Shows  4G LTE: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 12,
 and At&t bands for 4g are 2 / 4 / 17

 Would go for this phone if everything works out.
https://www.dansdeals.com/advertisement/child-need-kosher-phone-get-one-today-via-ebay-deals/

 Found this post. So i guess this is a good option in the end, i think i'm going to go with this.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on July 01, 2020, 12:12:06 AM
Does the Alcatel Go Flip ATT (3) work with 4g on AT&T?
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Cheat-sheet-which-4G-LTE-bands-do-AT-T-Verizon-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933

 This is a great site.

 Find the specs for this device and then see what bands it has. The more bands the better the service.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on July 01, 2020, 12:22:51 AM
Tello has for $4 now for the first month because of July 4th.

https://tello.com/

It uses Sprint if that helps.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 01, 2020, 12:26:25 AM
Right, for AT&T those are my options - Alcatel Go Flip 3 or Schok. Just need to figure out if I should even consider the Alcatel or go straight to Schok. The only thing reviewers didn't like about it is that the volume buttons are pressable when the phone is closed, so you can end up adjusting the volume by mistake if it's in a pocket or something. But not sure if that's enough of a drawback to not buy it, and it's got to be better than what I have now.
Both the alcatels and the schock have the issue where the volume can he adjusted when the phone is closed. I have both. They are both slow and buggy buy the new alcatel go flip 3 is less so. They sell an ATT version of it
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 01, 2020, 12:28:02 AM
I had a tmobile sim punched out to the smallest one back a few years ago, but didn't come out the greatest but it did work.
 or take a knife and cut it yourself, match it up to a small one.

https://promotions.newegg.com/cellphone/compatibility/cell_phone_compatibility.html
 Wonder if this chart is acurate.
That chart is not up to date but it's very simple to make your own chart by going to the carriers websites.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 01, 2020, 12:31:46 AM
https://www.dansdeals.com/advertisement/child-need-kosher-phone-get-one-today-via-ebay-deals/

 Found this post. So i guess this is a good option in the end, i think i'm going to go with this.
IME the software on this is terrible.  Contacts dont work at all and many other problems. The new one is slightly better but only tried with stock PS havent yet tried with kosher software
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 01, 2020, 12:32:33 AM
didn't get any email from Gmail. I think its an issue with the device.
Do you have the browser turned on?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on July 01, 2020, 12:43:00 AM
That chart is not up to date but it's very simple to make your own chart by going to the carriers websites.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Cheat-sheet-which-4G-LTE-bands-do-AT-T-Verizon-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933

 This is a great site.

 Find the specs for this device and then see what bands it has. The more bands the better the service.
Hence for this chart.

IME the software on this is terrible.  Contacts dont work at all and many other problems. The new one is slightly better but only tried with stock PS havent yet tried with kosher software
what you mean by contacts not working?

Both the alcatels and the schock have the issue where the volume can he adjusted when the phone is closed. I have both. They are both slow and buggy buy the new alcatel go flip 3 is less so. They sell an ATT version of it
how much more is the flip 3?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on July 01, 2020, 03:04:11 AM
Both the alcatels and the schock have the issue where the volume can he adjusted when the phone is closed. I have both. They are both slow and buggy buy the new alcatel go flip 3 is less so. They sell an ATT version of it
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/at-t-prepaid-alcatel-smartflip-black/6368542.p?

Is this the same or similar the to the flip 3?

 There's so many similar models.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shnu on July 01, 2020, 04:58:40 PM
Do you have the browser turned on?
i tried that
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 01, 2020, 05:16:38 PM
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/at-t-prepaid-alcatel-smartflip-black/6368542.p?

Is this the same or similar the to the flip 3?

 There's so many similar models.
It is the 3.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on July 01, 2020, 05:26:19 PM
Its similar to the 3
Do you suggest I go for that one that's locked and use it on H2O or wing, I'm assuming I can get it to work even though it's locked AT&t.
 Why doesn't it say it's the three just says it's the flip.

 Or do I get the one for $40 from Amazon that's GSM unlocked, the other one I had posted?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 01, 2020, 05:46:29 PM
Do you suggest I go for that one that's locked and use it on H2O or wing, I'm assuming I can get it to work even though it's locked AT&t.
 Why doesn't it say it's the three just says it's the flip.

 Or do I get the one for $40 from Amazon that's GSM unlocked, the other one I had posted?
Idk what's up with the naming scheme but you can look at the model number in the specs and compare with the ATT website.

If H2o and wing use the Att network phones I dont see what the prob could be.

The ATT version would prob be better with wifi calling and VoLTE
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on July 01, 2020, 08:25:57 PM
Both the alcatels and the schock have the issue where the volume can he adjusted when the phone is closed. I have both. They are both slow and buggy buy the new alcatel go flip 3 is less so. They sell an ATT version of it
Thanks! Just wanted to verify that the ATT Alcatel is 4g. Also do you know where to buy it unlocked?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 02, 2020, 02:39:18 PM
Thanks! Just wanted to verify that the ATT Alcatel is 4g. Also do you know where to buy it unlocked?
It definitely has a 4g modem although I can't guarantee it has VoLTE. That's carrier specific.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on July 03, 2020, 01:00:21 AM
what options are currently available for physical QWERTY keyboard, (pref feature phone) on ATT?

None

didn't get any email from Gmail. I think its an issue with the device.
What error are you getting on the phone?

Right, for AT&T those are my options - Alcatel Go Flip 3 or Schok. Just need to figure out if I should even consider the Alcatel or go straight to Schok. The only thing reviewers didn't like about it is that the volume buttons are pressable when the phone is closed, so you can end up adjusting the volume by mistake if it's in a pocket or something. But not sure if that's enough of a drawback to not buy it, and it's got to be better than what I have now.
Also both phones are low quality and laggy, slow...

As well as the https://www.target.com/p/cricket-prepaid-alcatel-smartflip-phone-4gb-black/-/A-76616248
 Wonder if this works for at&t.
check this out
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184265988163

Today most have all three sizes.

 What was the story with this device? shows unlocked and works for other carriers as well. wiki can be updated.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552325-REG/nuu_f4l_us_black_f4l_2_8_vga_lte.html

Or for $55 for a refurbished one.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1552325/nuu_f4l_us_black_f4l_2_8_vga_lte.html
Not sure never tried the phone myself, but in regards to the service, Thanks Ill update the wiki.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on July 03, 2020, 01:01:46 AM
Thanks! Just wanted to verify that the ATT Alcatel is 4g. Also do you know where to buy it unlocked?
Kosher: https://www.ebay.com/itm/184265988163

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Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on July 03, 2020, 01:31:54 AM
Does this make sense the unlocked version has more bands while the locked version has less?

Unlocked - Alcatel SMARTFLIP 4052R | 4G LTE | 4GB Flip-Phone | Bluetooth, WiFi, Big Buttons | (GSM Unlocked) - Volcano Black ($69.00) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088MKVYTF/?tag=cl03f-20&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41QpvS5QKVL._AC_SY879_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088MKVYTF/?tag=cl03f-20&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)



Locked Version, which is prepaid-
$40  https://www.bestbuy.com/site/at-t-prepaid-alcatel-smartflip-black/6368542.p?skuId=6368542

$30 for the cricket one.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cricket-wireless-alcatel-smartflip-black/6376738.p?



At this point i need to get two phones tomorrow to activate on wing service(at&t) so i can bring them up to the country for Sunday.

 Which would you guys settle for?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on July 03, 2020, 01:19:36 PM
Both the alcatels and the schock have the issue where the volume can he adjusted when the phone is closed. I have both. They are both slow and buggy buy the new alcatel go flip 3 is less so. They sell an ATT version of it

Actually incorrect. If you buy the Schok from EZ Wirless the volume does not change when the phone is closed. I fixed it for them!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 03, 2020, 01:58:11 PM
Actually incorrect. If you buy the Schok from EZ Wirless the volume does not change when the phone is closed. I fixed it for them!
I was referring to the Original manufacturer version. Who is EZ wireless?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on July 03, 2020, 05:36:27 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/Ky14NV4/IMG-20200703-171844922.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ThCjKPj)

 Got a few of these let's see how they work for 6 bucks you can't go wrong.

 I wonder if these would work for me to use an AT&t versus me spending 80 bucks on two new phones?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 03, 2020, 05:53:34 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/Ky14NV4/IMG-20200703-171844922.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ThCjKPj)

 Got a few of these let's see how they work for 6 bucks you can't go wrong.

 I wonder if these would work for me to use an AT&t versus me spending 80 bucks on two new phones?
Which phone is that?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on July 03, 2020, 07:03:41 PM
Which phone is that?
I bought these before the deal went live on the main site.
 TracFone with Verizon.
Alcatel MyFlip
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on July 04, 2020, 10:59:12 PM
Kosher: https://www.ebay.com/itm/184265988163

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That one is called QuickFlip, is that the same as the Go Flip 3 mentioned in the wiki?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 04, 2020, 11:09:54 PM
That one is called QuickFlip, is that the same as the Go Flip 3 mentioned in the wiki?
No that's the old one. Anything with 4044 is the original one a d the letters afterward  indicate the carrier variant.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on July 05, 2020, 12:17:24 AM
That one is called QuickFlip, is that the same as the Go Flip 3 mentioned in the wiki?
Seems all these new ones are now kasherable.
http://tagflatbush.com/4g-lte-basic-phones/

  Ended up buying the Alcatel SmartFlip from AT&t the prepaid one.
  And using wing as my service provider.

 Now I need to see how I can lock both of them.

Would love to have them all locked and ready by tom somehow.

I put a 100MB on the Phone plan, enough for them to send and receive picture messages.
  But the browser & the app store I would want blocked.

Is there anyone that knows how to do this without the need for me to go to tag?

 (Till tag returns it, and locks it, will be some time.)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on July 05, 2020, 05:31:19 AM
While looking for a way to lock and to change the settings of the device. Alcatel Smart flip At&t prepaid.

 I stumbled across all this gyberirish, python and debugging and developer coding and forums.

 For someone who's in the IT or the support world it would be amazing if someone here can write us up a program to remove the apps on the home screens and block the store and internet.

Here's a few links I was roaming through..(there's actually a Jewish guy it seems Hocking away there.)

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/bananahackers/91D-RDgZpmM

https://www.martinkaptein.com/blog/kai-os-remove-default-pre-installed-bloatware-apps/

https://www.reddit.com/r/KaiOS/comments/diyaan/is_there_any_way_to_uninstall_the_stock_apps/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!forum/bananahackers

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/bananahackers/SRE3nkHiKUQ

  I love these techy stuff, but this is to the next level.
 Would take me quote a bit of time to google all these terms to try to grasp the basics of this.
 But interesting that I bumped into this.

 If someone has some more knowledge on this and doesn't mind sharing it, that would be really helpful.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 05, 2020, 09:53:15 AM
While looking for a way to lock and to change the settings of the device. Alcatel Smart flip At&t prepaid.

 I stumbled across all this gyberirish, python and debugging and developer coding and forums.

 For someone who's in the IT or the support world it would be amazing if someone here can write us up a program to remove the apps on the home screens and block the store and internet.

Here's a few links I was roaming through..(there's actually a Jewish guy it seems Hocking away there.)

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/bananahackers/91D-RDgZpmM

https://www.martinkaptein.com/blog/kai-os-remove-default-pre-installed-bloatware-apps/

https://www.reddit.com/r/KaiOS/comments/diyaan/is_there_any_way_to_uninstall_the_stock_apps/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!forum/bananahackers

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/bananahackers/SRE3nkHiKUQ

  I love these techy stuff, but this is to the next level.
 Would take me quote a bit of time to google all these terms to try to grasp the basics of this.
 But interesting that I bumped into this.

 If someone has some more knowledge on this and doesn't mind sharing it, that would be really helpful.
There are a bunch of Jewish Guys there and even more Israelis
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on July 05, 2020, 12:38:43 PM
No that's the old one. Anything with 4044 is the original one a d the letters afterward  indicate the carrier variant.
Thanks!
So brings me back to my question of where to buy the new one online, unlocked. Preferably from a real store so I can return it if I hate it. Otherwise I'll spend more to get the Schok from target.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: asherfriedman on July 08, 2020, 02:26:53 PM
I have an LG VN220 the WiFi calling is not working, and the option to activate it is not showing up in settings>call settings. it worked for a few days and then it stopped working although texting does work on Wi-Fi. please help
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: MoYS on July 10, 2020, 01:28:43 PM
I saw recently a flip phone with a touch screen but i couldnt see the brand etc, does anyone know what model it is?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on July 12, 2020, 12:25:43 AM
The LG wine smart, possibly.
https://www.gsmarena.com/lg_wine_smart-7451.php
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 12, 2020, 12:45:06 AM
Or Samaung Galaxy Folder
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Sammy82 on July 12, 2020, 07:14:56 PM
Looking for a flip/dumb phone to use on Verizon. Are there any that could sync with my contacts that are saved to Google? Would also love if it had a qwerty keyboard but from quickly scanning though a few pages here, seems like that doesn't exist.
Best options?
TIA
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Abey on July 15, 2020, 03:52:34 PM
which ones support at least basic email functions ? (like reading subjects) verizon
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shnu on July 15, 2020, 04:48:38 PM
Kyocera duraextreme
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 15, 2020, 04:53:49 PM
Looking for a flip/dumb phone to use on Verizon. Are there any that could sync with my contacts that are saved to Google? Would also love if it had a qwerty keyboard but from quickly scanning though a few pages here, seems like that doesn't exist.
Best options?
TIA
Most of the newer Alcatel sync with google. Carriers are able to disable this so check on a Verizon alcatel to see if it's there.
May not work after kashering. Depending how it's done. Ask @Kosher_Cellutions if he can do this.

which ones support at least basic email functions ? (like reading subjects) verizon
I think they all do.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Happyallways on July 15, 2020, 05:57:26 PM
Kyocera duraextreme

Can i have apps on it? like whatsapp? and what about a filter?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on July 16, 2020, 12:42:21 AM
Can i have apps on it? like whatsapp? and what about a filter?
Alcatel smart flip has whats app!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 16, 2020, 01:16:03 AM
Can i have apps on it? like whatsapp? and what about a filter?
You can have whatsapp or a filter.

Did you really think you could have your boat and heat it too?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Happyallways on July 16, 2020, 08:44:04 AM
You can have whatsapp or a filter.

Did you really think you could have your boat and heat it too?
What filter can I have?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 16, 2020, 10:19:27 AM
What filter can I have?
Not a filter but TAG will put on a different operating system. 
Some are the same as the original OS and some are really good.
Also there is a DDFer who can do it for you via teamviewer.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Happyallways on July 16, 2020, 10:51:21 AM
Not a filter but TAG will put on a different operating system. 
Some are the same as the original OS and some are really good.
Also there is a DDFer who can do it for you via teamviewer.
They are changing operating system? And who can do it remotly?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 16, 2020, 10:57:37 AM
They are changing operating system? And who can do it remotly?
Look at signature of @Kosher_Cellutions

Looks like he can do KaisOs with a kashered WhatsApp
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Sammy82 on July 16, 2020, 01:14:53 PM
Most of the newer Alcatel sync with google. Carriers are able to disable this so check on a Verizon alcatel to see if it's there.
May not work after kashering. Depending how it's done. Ask @Kosher_Cellutions if he can do this.
I think they all do.
Verizon Flip V does not seem to have that capability. And I don't see any other Alcatel phones in their line up.
So let's move away from Verizon. Which prepaid companies have an Alcatel phone that allows for goggle contact sync?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shwarmabob on July 16, 2020, 09:00:30 PM
can Hebrew keyboard be installed on Nu F4L flip phone?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on July 17, 2020, 11:45:43 AM
Does anyone have the NUU F4L that can give me some type of idea of if its good and how it compares to other phones?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shwarmabob on July 28, 2020, 11:49:10 AM
Does anyone have the NUU F4L that can give me some type of idea of if its good and how it compares to other phones?
It's "smarter" than the old dumb phones - it has what'sapp if you enable internet or wifi, but not as smart as the smartphones. :)
Screen is too small to waste much time on it.
My only issue is that I can't figure out how to install Hebrew keyboard.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Josef.koney on July 28, 2020, 12:57:47 PM
It's "smarter" than the old dumb phones - it has what'sapp if you enable internet or wifi, but not as smart as the smartphones. :)
Screen is too small to waste much time on it.
My only issue is that I can't figure out how to install Hebrew keyboard.
Does it have the ability to have Google maps and Uber?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shwarmabob on July 28, 2020, 05:22:45 PM
Does it have the ability to have Google maps and Uber?
AFAIK the answer is no.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on July 28, 2020, 08:06:33 PM
With the Alcatel smartflip, can one use the device while on a call?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on July 29, 2020, 09:15:07 AM
So interesting to see what filtering services are out there.

 Today guy has a nice selection.

 @Kosher_Cellutions He has a few sites meantioned in his profile, very interesting what can be done.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 09, 2020, 04:46:51 PM
For someone with a free upgrade, which device would you guys take?

https://www.verizon.com/basic-phones/
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on August 09, 2020, 06:29:14 PM
If you're okay with the form factor then the kyocera sounds like a good choice. The orbic journey L is really a bad phone but it looks like it doesnt have any internet so you can save on TAG fees. otherwise I hear the Allcatel is okay.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: sillypainter on August 09, 2020, 07:20:04 PM
Dura XV Extreme is the way to go. If you want to filter it you can do it with the built in MDM, a friend or anyone can have the code and it's locked. You can block apps, SMS etc. It's the by far the best flip phone I ever had.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 10, 2020, 11:13:08 AM
If you're okay with the form factor then the kyocera sounds like a good choice. The orbic journey L is really a bad phone but it looks like it doesnt have any internet so you can save on TAG fees. otherwise I hear the Allcatel is okay.
orbic journey L is really a bad phone

In what regards?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on August 10, 2020, 09:25:08 PM
(in my opinion:) Feels extremely slow and sluggish, delayed response to button presses. Has lots of bugs (similar to the other phoned but a bit more pronounced). Hinge feels weak and easy to break. This is only in comparison to the Kyocera and LG models. With all the garbage that has flooded the market like the Kazuna, the orbic might be an OK option...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on August 11, 2020, 12:32:07 AM
orbic journey L is really a bad phone

In what regards?
By chance, I used today this phone from a friend and it's unusably slow!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 11, 2020, 01:25:52 AM
By chance, I used today this phone from a friend and it's unusably slow!
In what way ?

 Did he have it loaded with music and pictures?

 For someone who's only going to use this for calling maybe once every 5 days for a text, you think It should be a problem?

 The orbic Journey V
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on August 11, 2020, 01:38:23 AM
In what way ?

 Did he have it loaded with music and pictures?

 For someone who's only going to use this for calling maybe once every 5 days for a text, you think It should be a problem?

 The orbic Journey V
Didn't use it an lot, and out wasn't loaded with anything.

I just did several calls on it and the response time from key press to execution was huge.

Just one example, I had a cat and mouse gameb of 5-7 presses until I was able to get it to speaker phone, I pressed and when it took too long I thought I didn't press so I pressed again... and then the first press happened.. and that several times.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 11, 2020, 01:41:06 AM
Didn't use it an lot, and out wasn't loaded with anything.

I just did several calls on it and the response time from key press to execution was huge.

Just one example, I had a cat and mouse gameb of 5-7 presses until I was able to get it to speaker phone, I pressed and when it took too long I thought I didn't press so I pressed again... and then the first press happened.. and that several times.
Tried helping an older neighbor, got for them this free phone for an upgrade.

 I'm feeling bad now.

 Supposed to arrive on Wednesday not sure if I should give it to them...
  It's used mainly for calling and that's about it.
  Max 20-30 contacts in it.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on August 11, 2020, 01:47:13 AM
Tried helping an older neighbor, got for them this free phone for an upgrade.

 I'm feeling bad now.

 Supposed to arrive on Wednesday not sure if I should give it to them...
  It's used mainly for calling and that's about it.
  Max 20-30 contacts in it.
I guess try it yourself, maybe the one I was using was just in a bad mood (I know I'm computers it can sometimes happen...) or I'm just used to too good (smartphones and the LG Exalt.)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 11, 2020, 01:49:42 AM
I guess try it yourself, maybe the one I was using was just in a bad mood (I know I'm computers it can sometimes happen...) or I'm just used to too good (smartphones and the LG Exalt.)
     I guess I'll play around with it beforehand and see if there's anything that's a no no.

 And should they not be happy I'll swap it for them for another device.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on August 11, 2020, 10:00:40 AM
No its really horrible. Thats part of the problem: all people want is a phone that can call and text reliably and all we get are fake chinese knockoff models that have a huge key press delay just to dial a phone number
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 11, 2020, 04:39:22 PM
No its really horrible. Thats part of the problem: all people want is a phone that can call and text reliably and all we get are fake chinese knockoff models that have a huge key press delay just to dial a phone number
I guess I'll try it out for a bit and if it's that bad I'll work on another model.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 11, 2020, 04:39:47 PM
No its really horrible. Thats part of the problem: all people want is a phone that can call and text reliably and all we get are fake chinese knockoff models that have a huge key press delay just to dial a phone number
is the sound at least somewhat decent?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Pupashtetl on August 17, 2020, 10:51:13 AM
Tello has for $4 now for the first month because of July 4th.

https://tello.com/

It uses Sprint if that helps.

Does it work in Lakewood?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 17, 2020, 04:15:08 PM
Does it work in Lakewood?
Friend has been using this for a while.

 Sprint has decent service in Lakewood.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: avrohomgelb on August 17, 2020, 04:16:17 PM
Does it work in Lakewood?
Yes, my whole family uses it on flip phones. Although I heard that the data sucks
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on August 17, 2020, 04:48:35 PM
Can this be used with Verizon?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tracfone-Wireless-LG-Classic-Flip-8GB-Black-Prepaid-Smartphone/679025506?comm-msg-vehicle=EMAIL&comm-msg-id=c5c1f4c4-38f7-42b9-9ead-2668c48ff058
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 17, 2020, 05:33:31 PM
Yes, my whole family uses it on flip phones. Although I heard that the data sucks
If you're using it on a flip phone I don't think you need data!
   Do they even have some decent data plans?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 17, 2020, 05:50:18 PM
Can this be used with Verizon?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tracfone-Wireless-LG-Classic-Flip-8GB-Black-Prepaid-Smartphone/679025506?comm-msg-vehicle=EMAIL&comm-msg-id=c5c1f4c4-38f7-42b9-9ead-2668c48ff058
Quote
But the screen on the outside of lid does not provide caller information. So with that setting you will be answering every call before you know who it is. Because of that, "push any button to answer" is the wiser choice. Then you can check the inner screen before you answer.

 Other than that sing like a decent phone..

You might need to have it unlocked.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: simplicity on August 18, 2020, 01:54:17 PM
Can this be used with Verizon?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tracfone-Wireless-LG-Classic-Flip-8GB-Black-Prepaid-Smartphone/679025506?comm-msg-vehicle=EMAIL&comm-msg-id=c5c1f4c4-38f7-42b9-9ead-2668c48ff058
can it be tagged?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on August 18, 2020, 03:58:41 PM
can it be tagged?
No idea, i see it now online for $20
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on August 19, 2020, 11:12:32 AM
Right now no, but i hear its being worked on...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: presidentialplus on August 20, 2020, 12:42:51 AM
Other than that sing like a decent phone..

You might need to have it unlocked.

Could it be unlocked? How?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mf1 on August 23, 2020, 01:32:34 PM
Hi
What simple phones work on visible. All the ones that are compatible with Verizon 4g ?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: jose34 on August 23, 2020, 05:41:30 PM
Best flip phone normally priced to bring to Israel?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on August 23, 2020, 06:28:27 PM
Can this be used with Verizon?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tracfone-Wireless-LG-Classic-Flip-8GB-Black-Prepaid-Smartphone/679025506?comm-msg-vehicle=EMAIL&comm-msg-id=c5c1f4c4-38f7-42b9-9ead-2668c48ff058
Anyone know if this can be unlocked?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on August 23, 2020, 06:57:03 PM
Best flip phone normally priced to bring to Israel?
I've been using a LG exalt but although it's probably better than most israeli meushar phones you wont have LTE as its lacking band 3 (not the biggest issue as not many israeli carriers have VoLTE)
Personally I would reccomend the Schock Classic Flip (cant guarantee it has Band 3 LTE out of the box as I forgot mine in America)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on August 23, 2020, 06:58:50 PM
Anyone know if this can be unlocked?
Not that I know of but tracfone has some decent pricing + you can sometimes ask them to service you using the network of your choice.

You may be eligible to unlock after paying for a year of service
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on August 23, 2020, 07:00:29 PM
By chance, I used today this phone from a friend and it's unusably slow!
You created an OS for it without ever using one?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on August 23, 2020, 07:02:23 PM
Other than that sing like a decent phone..

You might need to have it unlocked.
I believe @Yisroel Tech mentioned that he can get caller ID on the outside screen
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 23, 2020, 07:05:24 PM
Anyone know if this can be unlocked?
Lots of sellers on eBay with unlocking codes. Find the model number and ask the seller.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on August 23, 2020, 07:11:52 PM
You created an OS for it without ever using one?
I believe @Yisroel Tech mentioned that he can get caller ID on the outside screen
Perhaps mixing me up with @Kosher_Cellutions
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on August 23, 2020, 07:13:56 PM
Perhaps mixing me up with @Kosher_Cellutions
Lol sorry to disturb you.its been to long since I've posted.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: jose34 on August 23, 2020, 07:22:31 PM
I've been using a LG exalt but although it's probably better than most israeli meushar phones you wont have LTE as its lacking band 3 (not the biggest issue as not many israeli carriers have VoLTE)
Personally I would reccomend the Schock Classic Flip (cant guarantee it has Band 3 LTE out of the box as I forgot mine in America)
How? It has a sim slot?
Schock Classic Flip but its  $100?!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 23, 2020, 07:34:28 PM
Didn't use it an lot, and out wasn't loaded with anything.

I just did several calls on it and the response time from key press to execution was huge.

Just one example, I had a cat and mouse gameb of 5-7 presses until I was able to get it to speaker phone, I pressed and when it took too long I thought I didn't press so I pressed again... and then the first press happened.. and that several times.
Indeed, tried it out. A real piece of junk!

 Feels like it's about to snap in half.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on August 24, 2020, 02:47:20 AM
How? It has a sim slot?
Schock Classic Flip but its  $100?!
All 4g phones have a sim slot.

I think meushar phones usually cost in the $60 - $120 range (200- 400 nis)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on August 24, 2020, 09:08:04 AM
Lots of sellers on eBay with unlocking codes. Find the model number and ask the seller.
Found a legit site for $50, will give it a shot so we can know if its doable at all.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 24, 2020, 09:40:18 AM
Found a legit site for $50, will give it a shot so we can know if its doable at all.
$50 for an unlocking code? That's mad expensive!

 @Kosher_Cellutions has for cheaper than that.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on August 24, 2020, 09:58:13 AM
$50 for an unlocking code? That's mad expensive!

 @Kosher_Cellutions has for cheaper than that.
Ive never done this in the past..... its not a code, you give them the IMEI and they manually unlock it...... I hope I didnt get ripped off....
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: jose34 on August 24, 2020, 11:27:51 AM
When it says Carrier Locked for example on this listing https://www.amazon.com/TracFone-ZTE-Z233-Prepaid-Phone/dp/B074HY3LRB/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Tracfone+Wireless+LG+Classic+Flip&qid=1598282617&s=wireless&sr=1-3

Does it really mean its carrier locked or is it possible to use unlock and use outside the US?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 24, 2020, 10:46:50 PM
When it says Carrier Locked for example on this listing https://www.amazon.com/TracFone-ZTE-Z233-Prepaid-Phone/dp/B074HY3LRB/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Tracfone+Wireless+LG+Classic+Flip&qid=1598282617&s=wireless&sr=1-3

Does it really mean its carrier locked or is it possible to use unlock and use outside the US?
You can always find or pay for an unlocking Service.

 Again do your research before hand.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 24, 2020, 10:48:01 PM
Ive never done this in the past..... its not a code, you give them the IMEI and they manually unlock it...... I hope I didnt get ripped off....
The three ways I'm familiar with is plugging in a code/pin.
 
 Using team viewer and having them unlock it for you while phone is connected.

And unlocking it in the system with giving the IMEI.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on August 25, 2020, 12:03:57 AM
And unlocking it in the system with giving the IMEI.
so I guess this is what I did, (and paid $50 for it), takes around 4 days....
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 25, 2020, 12:24:32 AM
so I guess this is what I did, (and paid $50 for it), takes around 4 days....
Keep me posted if it works.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on August 25, 2020, 02:23:36 AM
so I guess this is what I did, (and paid $50 for it), takes around 4 days....
Sounds like an employee trying to make a buck or some small prepaid carrier abusing the system.

In israel you'll find guys to get an American phone to work with a meushar sim for around 80 NIS
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: jose34 on August 25, 2020, 08:12:02 AM
Sounds like an employee trying to make a buck or some small prepaid carrier abusing the system.

In israel you'll find guys to get an American phone to work with a meushar sim for around 80 NIS
Yeah its called spoofing the IMEI; Kosher Phones only work with certain IMEI numbers; I posted a link to those IMEI numbers somewhere on here on the Forums.
The experience I have had is that the phones whose IMEI numbers have been spoofed have better service then the actual "Kosher Phones" then sell in stores. If only I can figure how to do it myself  ::)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Definitions on August 25, 2020, 07:28:53 PM
Yeah its called spoofing the IMEI; Kosher Phones only work with certain IMEI numbers; I posted a link to those IMEI numbers somewhere on here on the Forums.
The experience I have had is that the phones whose IMEI numbers have been spoofed have better service then the actual "Kosher Phones" then sell in stores. If only I can figure how to do it myself  ::)
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=102932.msg2082664#msg2082664
I'm pretty sure you can do it with these boxes/software. I never looked into it much but I think this is how all the guys do network unlocking
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on August 25, 2020, 11:00:08 PM
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=102932.msg2082664#msg2082664
I'm pretty sure you can do it with these boxes/software. I never looked into it much but I think this is how all the guys do network unlocking
I wouldn't mind a lesson or two on how all this works.

 If you find someone, keep me posted. I'll definitely join.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: jose34 on August 26, 2020, 06:34:40 AM
I wouldn't mind a lesson or two on how all this works.

 If you find someone, keep me posted. I'll definitely join.
Me too.
Anyone know anyone who is willing to give a class or two over Zoom. I would even be willing a to pay a  drop for it.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on August 27, 2020, 02:35:12 PM
Me too.
Anyone know anyone who is willing to give a class or two over Zoom. I would even be willing a to pay a  drop for it.
+1
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: jose34 on August 27, 2020, 03:20:06 PM
+1

So know we have 3... maybe we should post on DDF DO Board to see if anyone is willing is join and if anyone is willing to give the class.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: mgarfin on August 27, 2020, 07:12:00 PM
Are these the same phone?

https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-lmy120um0auclpl-us-cellular-wine-2

https://shop.tracfone.com/shop/en/tracfonestore/tf-lg-classic-flip-l125dl
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on August 27, 2020, 11:38:11 PM
Are these the same phone?

https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-lmy120um0auclpl-us-cellular-wine-2

https://shop.tracfone.com/shop/en/tracfonestore/tf-lg-classic-flip-l125dl
Same phone. Different networks.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: carrentals on August 28, 2020, 12:42:47 PM
Any way to mute a conversation on the new Dura Extreme?
It seems like it doesn't have the message plus app. Any work around?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on August 28, 2020, 01:41:18 PM
I have the Wine II from US cellular. It doesn't seem to be locked but I cant find any service that it works with. A friend told me he got it to work for red pocket but not working for me. T-mobile, only Internet (4g) works but cant make calls. Verizon, works sometimes... on and off. sometimes only incoming or outgoing...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on August 28, 2020, 01:42:31 PM
Interesting to note that the LG exalt (suddenly?) started having 4g service with T-mobile. used to be only 2g. Still bad for the kyocera...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on August 30, 2020, 01:08:19 AM
Found a legit site for $50, will give it a shot so we can know if its doable at all.
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1tjB0z9/B0-D0-F351-82-CD-4-EA0-A3-A9-528729625-FF6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9QBwRgq)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on August 30, 2020, 02:12:44 AM
Ok thanks for trying! It would be a big help to all of us to find out if its possible. I just have a bad feeling because every time they give that type of answer they end up saying that its not possible... I dont know what is it with the flip phones that a lot of companies have issues with the IMEI's. Even Verizon has issues with their own sometimes!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on August 31, 2020, 11:14:31 PM
Any response yet?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: mgarfin on September 01, 2020, 02:29:07 PM
Same phone. Different networks.

What do you mean by different networks?
TracFone will work on Verizon correct

US Cellular?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on September 01, 2020, 04:24:23 PM
Any response yet?
NO
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on September 01, 2020, 04:24:56 PM
TracFone will work on Verizon correct
I don't think so
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: a gast on September 01, 2020, 05:15:58 PM
What do you mean by different networks?
TracFone will work on Verizon correct

US Cellular?
Tracfone uses Verizon network, but its locked to their service so you cant use it with verizon direct
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: mgarfin on September 01, 2020, 07:15:38 PM
Tracfone uses Verizon network, but its locked to their service so you cant use it with verizon direct

How about Page plus TracFone company?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: troner100 on September 02, 2020, 04:50:20 PM
Does anyone know if the Samsung folder would work with a Verizon SIM card?
And if TAG (or anyone else) can filter it?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on September 03, 2020, 12:14:46 AM
Does anyone know if the Samsung folder would work with a Verizon SIM card?
And if TAG (or anyone else) can filter it?
Dont know for sure, but based on my experience I would say NO and NO
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on September 03, 2020, 12:19:12 AM
NO
Wow frustrating especially because they have $50 of yours tied up! I am really curious because I managed to get a US cellular Version of the Lg Classic flip (LG Wine 2 LTE) but I cant seem to get it to work with ANY network. It doesnt seem like its officially "locked" from the software because its doesnt prompt for an unlock code but no SIM that I try seems to work! Anyone has any ideas?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: sillypainter on September 03, 2020, 01:10:13 AM
Does anyone know if the Samsung folder would work with a Verizon SIM card?
And if TAG (or anyone else) can filter it?

Are you talking about the Samsung folder 2 or Galaxy Z?

The Z can be filtered like any other device and requires a mortgage on your house.

The Folder 2 does not have 4G bands for US usage, and will work on AT&T only. Do you want filtered for talk and text only or regular pay monthly filter? There is no reason for it not to work with any filter it has Android 7.1.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on September 06, 2020, 01:55:37 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1tjB0z9/B0-D0-F351-82-CD-4-EA0-A3-A9-528729625-FF6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9QBwRgq)
Please tell me they gave back your money at least....?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on September 06, 2020, 11:57:30 AM
Please tell me they gave back your money at least....?
i didn't even start the dispute.... i will get to it don't you worry.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on September 10, 2020, 09:18:29 AM
Tag (at  least in Lakewood) "kashers" only some phones in fact for sprint they say only 1 or 2 models. 

But is there anyway to remove/destroy the wifi in a basic phone and and then just block data or don't sign up for data and that would effectively "kasher" the phone?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on September 11, 2020, 09:29:32 AM
Is there any easy way to remove wifi on a 4g basic phone?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on September 11, 2020, 03:40:46 PM
No. they usually remove the browser because of that and not the wifi itself
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on September 14, 2020, 09:47:14 AM
No. they usually remove the browser because of that and not the wifi itself

why is it hard to remove wifi permanently?
and why only some phones they can remove browser?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on September 15, 2020, 12:24:15 AM
They usually try to block the phone that even if the device is factory reset, there will still be no internet. as such it usually involves changing the whole entire operating system, not just one app, if it will be secure...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on September 15, 2020, 09:35:17 AM
They usually try to block the phone that even if the device is factory reset, there will still be no internet. as such it usually involves changing the whole entire operating system, not just one app, if it will be secure...

I see thank you that explains how they kasher the phone but not clear why wifi so hard to remove permanently and why only some phones can be kashered?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: jose34 on September 16, 2020, 05:02:25 PM
I see thank you that explains how they kasher the phone but not clear why wifi so hard to remove permanently and why only some phones can be kashered?
Does it depend on the motherboard of the phone, maybe some phones it eaiser to cut a or to shortcut the wifi wire/ connection and some its harder to.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on September 17, 2020, 02:40:05 PM
Does it depend on the motherboard of the phone, maybe some phones it eaiser to cut a or to shortcut the wifi wire/ connection and some its harder to.

and how hard to remove wifi altogether?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on September 18, 2020, 01:38:08 PM
Does it depend on the motherboard of the phone, maybe some phones it eaiser to cut a or to shortcut the wifi wire/ connection and some its harder to.

This is very laughable....You can not open the "mother board" of the device and cut the wifi wire.... If you guys need some advice ask me and I will provide info.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on September 21, 2020, 10:09:19 AM
This is very laughable....You can not open the "mother board" of the device and cut the wifi wire.... If you guys need some advice ask me and I will provide info.

so what's the answer? is it hard to permanently disable wifi?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on September 21, 2020, 02:31:11 PM
so what's the answer? is it hard to permanently disable wifi?

You disable it thru software.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on September 21, 2020, 05:29:58 PM
You disable it thru software.

so why cant Tag do it? they say they can only "kasher" the phone not disable the wifi how complex is it to disable wifi? and hence the limitation; since they only "kasher" phones they can only do so to certain phones.  It seems if they try and disable wifi that would enable them to take care of all the phones?

anyone one want to volunteer assisting and guiding TAG?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on September 21, 2020, 11:38:56 PM
so why cant Tag do it? they say they can only "kasher" the phone not disable the wifi how complex is it to disable wifi? and hence the limitation; since they only "kasher" phones they can only do so to certain phones.  It seems if they try and disable wifi that would enable them to take care of all the phones?

anyone one want to volunteer assisting and guiding TAG?

Because the developer of that solution did not do it for them. Simple as that or it was never requested.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on September 22, 2020, 11:36:01 AM
Because the developer of that solution did not do it for them. Simple as that or it was never requested.

so can they request someone to assist them with  disabling all basic phones wifi connection?  whom would they contact to do this  and how complex is it?  are you able to do it(permanently disable wifi)?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on September 22, 2020, 12:54:56 PM
so can they request someone to assist them with  disabling all basic phones wifi connection?  whom would they contact to do this  and how complex is it?  are you able to do it(permanently disable wifi)?

depends on the model. If they request it I do it.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on September 22, 2020, 02:53:32 PM
depends on the model. If they request it I do it.

This is where I am confused why does it depend on the model I thought all of them can be done.  TAG also kashers some models but what we are trying to figure out is how to disable the wiif which would apply to all phones.  Is there a difference as far as you know between kashering and disabling wifi?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on September 23, 2020, 01:20:37 AM
Wifi is not the only way to access internet. Cellular data is a problem too. so the browser needs to be disabled through the software of the phone anyway. Opening up a phone to do anything, is tedious, time consuming, and definitely not the right way to go about mass kashering, having to teach all the TAG technicians how to open up phones and play around with wiring. Destined for failure . The right way is making a software ONCE for each phone and then just putting it on the phones as needed. There are many phones that cant be kashered, mostly because they aren't really good phones, and there is not enough customers to justify making a software for it.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on September 23, 2020, 09:29:45 AM
Wifi is not the only way to access internet. Cellular data is a problem too. so the browser needs to be disabled through the software of the phone anyway. Opening up a phone to do anything, is tedious, time consuming, and definitely not the right way to go about mass kashering, having to teach all the TAG technicians how to open up phones and play around with wiring. Destined for failure . The right way is making a software ONCE for each phone and then just putting it on the phones as needed. There are many phones that cant be kashered, mostly because they aren't really good phones, and there is not enough customers to justify making a software for it.

So for my clarification you can disable browser through software or wiring but through software is more efficient?
You are correct about cellular data being also an issue but you can block data or not subscribe to data with wifi you need to disable it so my question does it work the same with wifi meaning you can disable it through software or cutting wires?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on September 23, 2020, 02:21:50 PM
you cannot disable browser through hardware. only through software.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on September 23, 2020, 02:48:42 PM
you cannot disable browser through hardware. only through software.

what about wifi how do you disable?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on September 24, 2020, 12:34:27 AM
They dont disable wifi. Its okay to connect to wifi as long as you dont have a browser which is way to access the internet. Leaving wifi on means people can still connect to wifi if they dont have good service they can use wifi calling/texting, or they can use the data for other safe/ kosher apps like email.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on September 24, 2020, 09:45:01 AM
They dont disable wifi. Its okay to connect to wifi as long as you dont have a browser which is way to access the internet. Leaving wifi on means people can still connect to wifi if they dont have good service they can use wifi calling/texting, or they can use the data for other safe/ kosher apps like email.

I see thanks so disabling the browser effectively protects you from accessing the internet even in a wifi spot?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on September 24, 2020, 11:33:05 AM
also what if you have no data on your plan you could still access internet in a wifi spot that's why if you could disable wifi you don't have to disable browser

so can you disable wifi (NOT THE BROWSER) or not??
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on September 24, 2020, 01:32:17 PM
most people have data already on the plan. and its backward to disable wifi and not the browser. which makes it easy for anyone to just put in someone elses sim card.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on September 24, 2020, 02:47:32 PM
most people have data already on the plan. and its backward to disable wifi and not the browser. which makes it easy for anyone to just put in someone elses sim card.

even with a different sim card you can get data if phone plan has no data plan/subscription?
question though is can you disable wifi or not? do you know?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shnu on September 24, 2020, 06:02:55 PM
Anybody else have the dura extreme and having issues with messaging? It takes a really long time to load.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: chilugutbaum on September 24, 2020, 06:41:42 PM
Anybody else have the dura extreme and having issues with messaging? It takes a really long time to load.

Yup same here, and it doesn't load NEW to OLD either.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on October 02, 2020, 04:41:41 PM
I remember a link posted here a while back for a $50 Verizon card sold at $30 on eBay, if anyone has the link please repost
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yo ssi on October 02, 2020, 05:01:46 PM
I remember a link posted here a while back for a $50 Verizon card sold at $30 on eBay, if anyone has the link please repost
Go on ebay buy this
  https://www.ebay.com/itm/174128066354 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/174128066354)
choose the $50 value one. activate it with your imei. It should solve the $50 rule. use it for 1 month then do whatever you want with your number.
Simple search..
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on October 08, 2020, 03:24:46 PM
Simple search..
Thanks I couldn't fine it.
Purchased, activated spent an hour with Verizon and its unlocked now
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on October 09, 2020, 02:02:22 AM
which phone?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on October 09, 2020, 05:29:15 PM
which phone?
Kyocera s2720
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yef on October 12, 2020, 05:14:03 PM
What is the best Verizon flip phone available? Best place to purchase?
Ty
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on October 12, 2020, 08:37:16 PM
The kyocera cadence from ebay. See wiki
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: herb on October 12, 2020, 11:50:43 PM
The kyocera cadence from ebay. See wiki
why is this better than the lg exalt?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on October 13, 2020, 11:41:05 PM
Lg exalt is nearly impossible to get at a decent price point and is slightly less durable
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on October 28, 2020, 03:00:30 AM
Anyone who has the LG classic flip and is happy with it?

 are you guys using it with straight talk and TracFone or did you guys get it unlocked?

 As well anyone here using it on T-Mobile or a GSM network?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on October 28, 2020, 11:08:57 PM
I am hearing of people happy with it on tracfone.
So far no one I know was successful in getting it unlocked....
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on October 28, 2020, 11:14:14 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/Sx7GLNP5/Kosher-Shield-02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XrqF434c)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on October 29, 2020, 03:33:40 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/Sx7GLNP5/Kosher-Shield-02.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XrqF434c)
Do you guys offer any unlock for this model as well?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on October 29, 2020, 09:36:05 AM
Are there any no-texting kosher phones that will send an autoreply if someone sends a text to that number, so they know that the message was not received?

Or is that just a carrier thing?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on October 29, 2020, 11:57:42 AM
Are there any no-texting kosher phones that will send an autoreply if someone sends a text to that number, so they know that the message was not received?

Or is that just a carrier thing?

LG Classic
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on October 29, 2020, 11:59:24 AM
LG Classic
Is it a good phone? Does it do 4g with AT&T? And who sells it in Kosher?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on October 30, 2020, 12:37:58 AM
Overall a good phone, Locked to tracfone at the moment.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on October 30, 2020, 09:50:35 AM
Overall a good phone, Locked to tracfone at the moment.
Ah, won't help me then. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: nucheiner on October 30, 2020, 02:22:02 PM
I believe TracFone is available for $15 a month for unlimited talk and text and one gigabyte of data. This is available on any of the three major networks. Correct me if Im wrong. Unless someone requires the roaming capabilities of going directly to the major carriers or is tied down to a plan I dont see the downside of switching to this MVNO. 
I will say though that a while back i ported my number over there and my phone was off-line for about six hours.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on October 30, 2020, 02:50:27 PM
I believe TracFone is available for $15 a month for unlimited talk and text and one gigabyte of data. This is available on any of the three major networks. Correct me if Im wrong. Unless someone requires the roaming capabilities of going directly to the major carriers or is tied down to a plan I dont see the downside of switching to this MVNO. 
I will say though that a while back i ported my number over there and my phone was off-line for about six hours.
Does it do 4G AT&T?
Also, my original Q was about kosher phones. Can this be bought kosher / can it be kosherized?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on October 30, 2020, 04:10:17 PM
It can run on At&t network, via tracfone, but you cannot insert your own sim. Kosher status is sketchy... Some people offer to do it but TAG warned that some may not be 100% perfect and may have some loopholes. ask Kosher_Cellutions what he can do.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 02, 2020, 01:24:22 AM
Tag is doing it now and using our approved solution with no loopholes.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: how on November 02, 2020, 07:18:18 AM
Tag is doing it now and using our approved solution with no loopholes.
are there any kosher flip phones that can run WhatsApp ?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mf1 on November 02, 2020, 12:30:39 PM
Tag is doing it now and using our approved solution with no loopholes.
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@Kosher_Cellutions  any way to make a visible sim work on verizon unlocked flip phone?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 02, 2020, 12:32:34 PM
member=27490]Kosher_Cellutions[/member] any way to make a visible sim work on verizon unlocked flip phone?

I dont know I dont activate or unlock these phones but I know Wing works.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mf1 on November 02, 2020, 12:34:57 PM
Excuse my ingnorance, what's wing?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yo ssi on November 02, 2020, 12:39:42 PM
Excuse my ingnorance, what's wing?
https://www.wingalpha.com/
GIYF
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Pupashtetl on November 09, 2020, 02:04:58 PM
Any one know how tracfone service is in Lakewood?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Dovdovmoneytree on November 09, 2020, 07:00:32 PM
Is there any phone >>with a Qwerty keyboard<< that would not have access to internet/browser? My wife mainly needs GPS, e-mail and maybe whatsapp
Ideally for T-Mobile or possibly AT&T. Thanks
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 10, 2020, 03:16:28 PM
Any one know how tracfone service is in Lakewood?
Depends which Carrier you use? They can work on any of the four major Network.

 I tried it on Verizon, worked well.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 10, 2020, 03:17:13 PM
Is there any phone >>with a Qwerty keyboard<< that would not have access to internet/browser? My wife mainly needs GPS, e-mail and maybe whatsapp
Ideally for T-Mobile or possibly AT&T. Thanks
SmartPhone with a filter?
Blackberry with parental controls in place?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Pupashtetl on November 10, 2020, 03:33:33 PM
Depends which Carrier you use? They can work on any of the four major Network.

 I tried it on Verizon, worked well.

So besides activating tracfone service I have to order a seperate thing from Verizon?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Dovdovmoneytree on November 10, 2020, 03:35:58 PM
SmartPhone with a filter?
Blackberry with parental controls in place?
Yeah, those I know. I'm trying to avoid a monthly filter expense..... I guess I can also have TAG lock anything not needed. I guess I was looking more for something of the old days that cannot even access more than what I mentioned. But the "old days" phones also cannot access e-mail and no GPS either so I guess she'll need a smartphone in some form  ::)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on November 10, 2020, 04:31:23 PM
So besides activating tracfone service I have to order a seperate thing from Verizon?
You can get Verizon coverage trough Tracfone (Tracfone offers coverage for the following networks: Verizon, AT&T, Sprint/T-Mobile)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 10, 2020, 04:49:59 PM
So besides activating tracfone service I have to order a seperate thing from Verizon?
No, just through TracFone, and you choose which carrier.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 12, 2020, 01:25:07 AM
What's the easiest way to unlock the Verizon Prepaid Kyocera cadence?
   Need a pin to use with another carrier.

 Anyone with a reference with whom they used or how they unlocked it?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 12, 2020, 12:46:02 PM
Yeah, those I know. I'm trying to avoid a monthly filter expense..... I guess I can also have TAG lock anything not needed. I guess I was looking more for something of the old days that cannot even access more than what I mentioned. But the "old days" phones also cannot access e-mail and no GPS either so I guess she'll need a smartphone in some form  ::)

www.KosherShield.com one time fee only
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on November 12, 2020, 01:31:28 PM
www.KosherShield.com one time fee only
@Kosher_Cellutions
KosherShield.com is doing Samsung devices only. Correct?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 12, 2020, 01:32:37 PM
correct or the lg classic
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on November 12, 2020, 11:04:02 PM
What's the easiest way to unlock the Verizon Prepaid Kyocera cadence?
   Need a pin to use with another carrier.

 Anyone with a reference with whom they used or how they unlocked it?

Call Verizon and pay for 1 month of service and ask to unlock it
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 12, 2020, 11:15:35 PM
Call Verizon and pay for 1 month of service and ask to unlock it
One month of service cost?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ae123 on November 13, 2020, 12:07:14 AM
Is there anyone who would fix/replace the outer screen of an Alcatel Smartflip?
If yes, approximately how much would it be?
Thanks.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yo ssi on November 13, 2020, 12:20:13 AM
Is there anyone who would fix/replace the outer screen of an Alcatel Smartflip?
If yes, approximately how much would it be?
Thanks.
I doubt much cheaper then a new one.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on November 13, 2020, 01:54:49 PM
where do you live?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 13, 2020, 02:02:01 PM
Is there anyone who would fix/replace the outer screen of an Alcatel Smartflip?
If yes, approximately how much would it be?
Thanks.
Buy a new one for $30.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ae123 on November 14, 2020, 11:53:10 PM
where do you live?
NJ.
Why?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ae123 on November 14, 2020, 11:53:54 PM
Buy a new one for $30.
Where is it that cheap?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 15, 2020, 02:06:58 AM
This any good? Better than the smart flip and my flips( which are slow like a turtle).
 

 Debut Flip (4GB)
https://www.target.com/p/cricket-prepaid-debut-flip-4gb-black/-/A-80503933?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cricket-Wireless-Cricket-Debut-FLIP-4GB-Navy-Blue/523829410?

Where is it that cheap?
Btw I'm sure this isn't any worse than the smart flip which is not the greatest, the buttons has a delay big time compared to the Kyocera Cadence or the version LG VN220.

 The cricket version were avlb for $29.99 everywhere and from Walmart for $19.97.

 Don't see them at the moment.
 The cricket and at&t are the exact same.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 15, 2020, 02:07:48 AM
Where is it that cheap?
$12.85
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cricket-Wireless-Alcatel-SMARTFLIP/611308235
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 15, 2020, 03:26:34 AM
Anyone here manually remove the browser and texting from the Kyocera Cadence?
  Or can link me to the info to do it? Thanks.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ae123 on November 15, 2020, 09:24:20 AM
This any good? Better than the smart flip and my flips( which are slow like a turtle).
 

 Debut Flip (4GB)
https://www.target.com/p/cricket-prepaid-debut-flip-4gb-black/-/A-80503933?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cricket-Wireless-Cricket-Debut-FLIP-4GB-Navy-Blue/523829410?
 Btw I'm sure this isn't any worse than the smart flip which is not the greatest, the buttons has a delay big time compared to the Kyocera Cadence or the version LG VN220.

 The cricket version were avlb for $29.99 everywhere and from Walmart for $19.97.

 Don't see them at the moment.
 The cricket and at&t are the exact same.
The Debut Flip is newer & more advanced than the Smartflip/GoFlip 3 (those 2 are the same, I believe)?
Where can I find info on that?
Thanks.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ae123 on November 15, 2020, 09:25:36 AM
$12.85
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cricket-Wireless-Alcatel-SMARTFLIP/611308235
The link shows me $29.99 (and out of stock).
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 15, 2020, 10:38:12 AM
The link shows me $29.99 (and out of stock).
Those smart flips are nothing great, quite slow and buggy. Even tag is against them, they do not recommend them.
 I have 3 of them , but garbage they are.

 Look online, I'm sure you can find them.
 Noone stocked up on them.

 Unless the company realized that they're not selling and took them off the shelves and hopefully has a better product in mind?

 What service do you need it for?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Baruch on November 15, 2020, 01:09:18 PM
Anyone here manually remove the browser and texting from the Kyocera Cadence?
  Or can link me to the info to do it? Thanks.
The kosher app for flip websites have ways to do that
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 15, 2020, 01:27:25 PM
The kosher app for flip websites have ways to do that
Yup thanks, ended up finding that last night.
Spent some time last night reading through it on how to remove it with the command prompts, while debugging the device, downloading the command prompts and then sending the Adb codes.

 Will play around a bit later, hope I can figure it out.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ae123 on November 15, 2020, 02:28:15 PM
Those smart flips are nothing great, quite slow and buggy. Even tag is against them, they do not recommend them.
 I have 3 of them , but garbage they are.
What service do you need it for?
I know they're buggy & slow but what other cheap options are there?

Cricket (AT&T).

Still not seeing that price no matter how I search or which browser I use!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 15, 2020, 02:43:09 PM
I know they're buggy & slow but what other cheap options are there?

Cricket (AT&T).

Still not seeing that price no matter how I search or which browser I use!
In walmart I saw the at&t version for $40.

 Through they did have the $30 ones but only the cardboard, which you need to ask in the back if they have in stock.

Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on November 15, 2020, 07:03:41 PM
NJ.
Why?
Theres a guy in boro park that fixes these. Im sure theres a guy in Lakewood too, but I dont know of any. Probably worth buying a new phone though..
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 17, 2020, 06:20:33 PM
The kosher app for flip websites have ways to do that
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=121322.0
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Dovdovmoneytree on November 19, 2020, 02:18:54 PM
Where can I get a good flip phone online or in a national store like Walmart etc (I live out of town....), talk and text only that goes with a cheap plan? I don't care who as long as reception is decent. Maybe Tello (Sprint network) or Mobi (Verizon network)
Or any other cheap plan (feel free to suggest  ;) )
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yungermanchik on November 19, 2020, 02:34:24 PM
Where can I get a good flip phone online or in a national store like Walmart etc (I live out of town....), talk and text only that goes with a cheap plan? I don't care who as long as reception is decent. Maybe Tello (Sprint network) or Mobi (Verizon network)
Or any other cheap plan (feel free to suggest  ;) )
https://fave.co/2KKgdXO kosher phone from ebay was advertised on DDMS (it's not on sale anymore though). It works with all the regular networks besides Verizon.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Dovdovmoneytree on November 19, 2020, 02:46:24 PM
https://fave.co/2KKgdXO kosher phone from ebay was advertised on DDMS (it's not on sale anymore though). It works with all the regular networks besides Verizon.
Thank you. Do you know if this phone is half decent?  :)
I assume it won't work on Sprint either since it's a GSM phone. Or will it now that they merged with T-Mobile??
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yungermanchik on November 19, 2020, 02:54:34 PM
Thank you. Do you know if this phone is half decent?  :)
I assume it won't work on Sprint either since it's a GSM phone. Or will it now that they merged with T-Mobile??
My wife uses it and it's less buggy and faster than the non-kosherized one but the loading is still a bit slow. Overall, she's happy with it. She has it with at&t so I'm not 100% sure about others. I was under the impression that only Verizon uses a different system but I may be wrong.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 20, 2020, 04:06:24 PM
Thank you. Do you know if this phone is half decent?  :)
I assume it won't work on Sprint either since it's a GSM phone. Or will it now that they merged with T-Mobile??

Get the LG Classic and if you want it on Verizon buy the Net10 Model if you want it on Tmobile buy the Walmart Mobile one and I can filter it for $25
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yungermanchik on November 21, 2020, 07:08:09 PM
Get the LG Classic and if you want it on Verizon buy the Net10 Model if you want it on Tmobile buy the Walmart Mobile one and I can filter it for $25
He said he wanted it pre-filtered because he lives out of town. Can you filter it remotely?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 21, 2020, 09:09:47 PM
He said he wanted it pre-filtered because he lives out of town. Can you filter it remotely?
That's called team viewer.
  Kosher cellular has the filter which doesn't get removed with a factory wipe, much better filter.
   Though a basic filter you can put on by yourself, but if the device is factory wiped it can come off.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 21, 2020, 09:10:37 PM
Get the LG Classic and if you want it on Verizon buy the Net10 Model if you want it on Tmobile buy the Walmart Mobile one and I can filter it for $25
Interesting, didn't know that.
 The TracFone version devices are usually impossible to remove.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 22, 2020, 02:14:18 PM
He said he wanted it pre-filtered because he lives out of town. Can you filter it remotely?

My filter work is done remotely for the LG Classic
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 22, 2020, 02:15:54 PM
That's called team viewer.
  Kosher cellular has the filter which doesn't get removed with a factory wipe, much better filter.
   Though a basic filter you can put on by yourself, but if the device is factory wiped it can come off.

Our filters dont come off.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 22, 2020, 02:17:09 PM
Our filters dont come off.
Yes that's a good thing in a way.
  It's tamper proof.

 But then again a phone like the Kyocera Cadence where people want to put on waze or some other apps it's a bit annoying.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yungermanchik on November 22, 2020, 02:20:13 PM
My filter work is done remotely for the LG Classic
@Dovdovmoneytree
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Dovdovmoneytree on November 22, 2020, 03:04:56 PM
Get the LG Classic and if you want it on Verizon buy the Net10 Model if you want it on Tmobile buy the Walmart Mobile one and I can filter it for $25

I'm not familiar with these phones? Buy them where? They seem to be for Tracfone??
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Dovdovmoneytree on November 22, 2020, 03:07:40 PM
@Dovdovmoneytree

Thank you for the tag! I haven't been taking notice of DDF messages the past few days.

I do indeed live out of town but there is a TAG office here. Just wanted to see what options I have.

@Kosher_Cellutions I actually sent you a message via your site last week. Never heard back from you  >:(
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 22, 2020, 03:48:02 PM
I'm not familiar with these phones? Buy them where? They seem to be for Tracfone??

Go to Walmart they have them for $30
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 23, 2020, 02:38:57 PM
Get the LG Classic and if you want it on Verizon buy the Net10 Model if you want it on Tmobile buy the Walmart Mobile one and I can filter it for $25
Would it work to rebrand an LG classic flip from tracfone to NET10? Or do I need to actually buy the device from NET10?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on November 23, 2020, 08:26:27 PM
Would it work to rebrand an LG classic flip from tracfone to NET10? Or do I need to actually buy the device from NET10?
anyone know? Have same question.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 23, 2020, 09:15:00 PM
anyone know? Have same question.

Tracfone and Net10 are the same... They are all the same phone just on different networks. Well the Walmart Family one is on Tmobile and the rest are on Verizon CDMA
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on November 23, 2020, 09:19:26 PM
Tracfone and Net10 are the same... They are all the same phone just on different networks. Well the Walmart Family one is on Tmobile and the rest are on Verizon CDMA
So if I bought a TracFone from Walmart, would it work with Net10?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 23, 2020, 11:06:23 PM
So if I bought a TracFone from Walmart, would it work with Net10?
Yes, you can rebrand it across all four carriers.

 Tracfone/Straight Talk/Net10/Total Wireless.

  Just chat with the company you want to use it with and give them the IMEI number and zip code and you can rebrand it.

 As I'm not sure why a Net10 phone would work to use on Verizon and not a tracfone or another on of the branded phones.

 I tried to rebrand it to NET10 but it still didn't work.

 Unless you need an actual Net10 lg classic flip for it to work?
 And not a tracfone rebranded?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 23, 2020, 11:09:04 PM
Tracfone and Net10 are the same... They are all the same phone just on different networks. Well the Walmart Family one is on Tmobile and the rest are on Verizon CDMA
You seemed to say the NET10 would work with version while a tracfone would not?
  Rebranding wouldn't help?

Get the LG Classic and if you want it on Verizon buy the Net10 Model if you want it on Tmobile buy the Walmart Mobile one and I can filter it for $25
  If I Buy this device straight from Net10 assuming it would work ?

anyone know? Have same question.
I tried with rebranding it didn't work.
  Maybe I actually need to buy a net10 device?

Source for rebranding is...
https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: eli1571 on November 24, 2020, 07:31:48 AM
Any cheap flip phones for Talk and text, that work in tello ?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Little Bob on November 24, 2020, 08:47:09 AM
I have been using the schlock phone with page plus. Originally I was not able to get the phone to work and had to activate  the sim in a Verizon phone and then take it out and put it in the schlock phone. The problem Ive been having is that as the plan renews each month it  cant renew in the schlock phone.To fix this every month on the renewal date I put the sim in my wifes Verizon phone until it renews. This month even after doing this I still get a message saying that that the phone cant work as the sim isnt in the phone that it was registered with. Any ideas?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on November 24, 2020, 02:28:06 PM
You seemed to say the NET10 would work with version while a tracfone would not?
  Rebranding wouldn't help?
  If I Buy this device straight from Net10 assuming it would work ?
 I tried with rebranding it didn't work.
  Maybe I actually need to buy a net10 device?

Source for rebranding is...
https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/
I bought the LG Classic Flip directly from Tracfone (https://shop.tracfone.com/shop/en/tracfonestore/phones/tf-lg-classic-flip-l125dl). I then purchased a net10 SIM kit for $1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Net10-Keep-Your-Own-Phone-3-in-1-Prepaid-SIM-Kit/283230133796), then activated the Net10 SIM on an UNLOCKED SMARTPHONE. Once the SIM was activated, I put the SIM in the LG Classic Flip, and it worked perfectly!  Then I 'Koshered' it by Meshimer for $30 (they have: Email, Talk & Text, Talk Only + plus any optional features you want to block/unblock).
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 24, 2020, 02:53:49 PM
I bought the LG Classic Flip directly from Tracfone (https://shop.tracfone.com/shop/en/tracfonestore/phones/tf-lg-classic-flip-l125dl). I then purchased a net10 SIM kit for $1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Net10-Keep-Your-Own-Phone-3-in-1-Prepaid-SIM-Kit/283230133796), then activated the Net10 SIM on an UNLOCKED SMARTPHONE. Once the SIM was activated, I put the SIM in the LG Classic Flip, and it worked perfectly!  Then I 'Koshered' it by Meshimer for $30 (they have: Email, Talk & Text, Talk Only + plus any optional features you want to block/unblock).
That much I know works.
  I'm trying to get it to work with the Verizon service.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on November 25, 2020, 11:29:36 AM
That much I know works.
  I'm trying to get it to work with the Verizon service.

You mean: to use the LG Classic Flip with Verizon direct (Verizon prepaid or post paid) ?
As far as I know, there is no way to unlock the LG Classic Flip to use with any other service provider besides Tracfone's own companys (Tracfone, Net10, TotalWireless, SimpleMobile).
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on November 25, 2020, 11:31:23 AM
You mean: to use the LG Classic Flip with Verizon direct (Verizon prepaid or post paid) ?
As far as I know, there is no way to unlock the LG Classic Flip to use with any other service provider besides Tracfone's own companys (Tracfone, Net10, TotalWireless, SimpleMobile).
Exactly what he said...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on November 25, 2020, 12:37:20 PM
Exactly what he said...
Yup.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Hiding on November 25, 2020, 02:42:51 PM
So I would like to get the LG classic. It's only going to be used for talk and text. The problem is that the area where it'll be used doesn't have good service except for Verizon. Based on the last few comments it seems it can't be used directly with Verizon themselves. Anyone know how good tracfone service is for talk and text compared to Verizon. Is it the exact same?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on November 26, 2020, 12:34:57 AM
So I would like to get the LG classic. It's only going to be used for talk and text. The problem is that the area where it'll be used doesn't have good service except for Verizon. Based on the last few comments it seems it can't be used directly with Verizon themselves. Anyone know how good tracfone service is for talk and text compared to Verizon. Is it the exact same?
Although there is a slight difference between Verizon direct and Verizon's MVNO (like Tracfone. See here: https://bestmvno.com/compare/verizon-mvnos/), I don't think you'll ever see a difference.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 27, 2020, 05:03:01 PM
So I would like to get the LG classic. It's only going to be used for talk and text. The problem is that the area where it'll be used doesn't have good service except for Verizon. Based on the last few comments it seems it can't be used directly with Verizon themselves. Anyone know how good tracfone service is for talk and text compared to Verizon. Is it the exact same?

Pageplus or Tracfone service will work just fine.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Danlover111 on November 29, 2020, 01:17:52 AM
when is this going to happen?

LG Exalt LTE VN220 Verizon

   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)
   ATT (3g),
   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on November 29, 2020, 11:38:33 AM
when is this going to happen?

LG Exalt LTE VN220 Verizon

   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
   Verizon (4g)
   ATT (3g),
   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)
What's the problem with the LG Wine 2 LTE phone?
It's a very nice and decent phone, IMO. The software of the LG Wine 2 LTE is almost identical to the old LG Exalt LTE.
I have no problem replacing the old, big, no outside screen LG Exalt LTE with the new sleek LG Wine 2 LTE (with its small-but-working outside screen).
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 29, 2020, 12:00:20 PM
What's the problem with the LG Wine 2 LTE phone?
It's a very nice and decent phone, IMO. The software of the LG Wine 2 LTE is almost identical to the old LG Exalt LTE.
I have no problem replacing the old, big, no outside screen LG Exalt LTE with the new sleek LG Wine 2 LTE (with its small-but-working outside screen).

I think everyone wants to see the phone work with other carriers like the vn220 did. Unfortunately I don't see that happening anytime soon. The only company that can unlock the wine 2 to work with other carriers is tracfone.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Danlover111 on November 29, 2020, 05:01:33 PM
correct, i need a unlocked phone.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on November 29, 2020, 05:05:14 PM
Anyone have opinions on Nuu vs Schok vs LG Classic (all koshered via tag)?
This would be for AT&T or TMobile
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on November 29, 2020, 05:15:17 PM
Anyone have opinions on Nuu vs Schok vs LG Classic (all koshered via tag)?
This would be for AT&T or TMobile
LG Classic is probably the best (not a sluggish) but it's not available for AT&T or TMobile anyway.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on November 29, 2020, 05:16:02 PM
LG Classic is probably the best (not a sluggish) but it's not available for AT&T or TMobile anyway.
Right I'd have to switch to tracfone if I go with that one. Interesting that it's the best because it's also the cheapest!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on November 29, 2020, 05:17:42 PM
Right I'd have to switch to tracfone if I go with that one. Interesting that it's the best because it's also the cheapest!
Cheapest because it's carrier locked, so it's not because it's really cheaper.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on November 29, 2020, 05:18:23 PM
Cheapest because it's carrier locked, so it's not because it's really cheaper.
Aha
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Little Bob on November 29, 2020, 07:31:24 PM
Has anyone had success using the schok phone with Verizon Mvnos? It used to work for me with page plus but it is no longer working
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 29, 2020, 07:47:17 PM
Has anyone had success using the schok phone with Verizon Mvnos? It used to work for me with page plus but it is no longer working

They were supposed to roll out an update to fix the issue. Check your phone.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Little Bob on November 29, 2020, 11:01:25 PM
I have, there is no new update. The last one was oct 23 2020. I was never able to activate the page plus sim in the schok phone, I activated it in a different Verizon phone and then put it in the schok phone. It worked for the entire month until the renewal date. Every month by my renewal date the sim had to be in the Verizon phone in order for the monthly plan to renew and then I could put it back in the schok phone. This past renewal date I did what I have been doing, and after the plan renewed in the Verizon phone I put it back in the schok phone. I kept on getting a message when trying to place calls the sim is not in the phone that it was registered with, please return it to the phone it was registered with to resolve the issue
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on November 30, 2020, 12:35:34 AM
I have, there is no new update. The last one was oct 23 2020. I was never able to activate the page plus sim in the schok phone, I activated it in a different Verizon phone and then put it in the schok phone. It worked for the entire month until the renewal date. Every month by my renewal date the sim had to be in the Verizon phone in order for the monthly plan to renew and then I could put it back in the schok phone. This past renewal date I did what I have been doing, and after the plan renewed in the Verizon phone I put it back in the schok phone. I kept on getting a message when trying to place calls the sim is not in the phone that it was registered with, please return it to the phone it was registered with to resolve the issue
Please report it to support@schokgear.com. They promised an update to fix this issue. Customer requests can make things move quicker  ;)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on November 30, 2020, 10:27:43 AM
I have a verizon flip phone that I got the sim unlock code, I can use it with t-mobile etc. but in their system it is still "Inter-Carrier" locked, I want to use it with USmobile on the verizon network however usmobile will not allow me to activate, does anyone have any data points If I can activate with another IMEI and then swap sims to this one, will it be blocked? 
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on November 30, 2020, 10:48:42 AM
I have, there is no new update. The last one was oct 23 2020. I was never able to activate the page plus sim in the schok phone, I activated it in a different Verizon phone and then put it in the schok phone. It worked for the entire month until the renewal date. Every month by my renewal date the sim had to be in the Verizon phone in order for the monthly plan to renew and then I could put it back in the schok phone. This past renewal date I did what I have been doing, and after the plan renewed in the Verizon phone I put it back in the schok phone. I kept on getting a message when trying to place calls the sim is not in the phone that it was registered with, please return it to the phone it was registered with to resolve the issue

What is your software version
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Little Bob on November 30, 2020, 02:03:07 PM
Sc3218 v1.1.3
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on November 30, 2020, 10:48:15 PM
I have a verizon flip phone that I got the sim unlock code, I can use it with t-mobile etc. but in their system it is still "Inter-Carrier" locked, I want to use it with USmobile on the verizon network however usmobile will not allow me to activate, does anyone have any data points If I can activate with another IMEI and then swap sims to this one, will it be blocked?
Yes. You can do it.
A lot of 4G basic devices, regardless of their unlocking state, will appear on US Mobile's (Verizon network) system as 'not eligible for activation.'  Still, when you activate the SIM on another device and then swap the SIM into the basic device, it works just fine.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on November 30, 2020, 10:57:43 PM
Looking for a good 4G flip phone that will work with Sprint.
Also would an unlocked flip phone work with Sprint?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 01, 2020, 12:06:57 PM
Looking for a good 4G flip phone that will work with Sprint.
Also would an unlocked flip phone work with Sprint?

You are limited in options to be honest. Try to stay away from sprint.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on December 01, 2020, 12:09:01 PM
You are limited in options to be honest. Try to stay away from sprint.
Have to a good plan to stay away.... would you know if an unlocked phone would work?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 01, 2020, 12:22:33 PM
Have to a good plan to stay away.... would you know if an unlocked phone would work?

an unlocked phone would not work. You need a sprint device
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on December 01, 2020, 12:30:13 PM
an unlocked phone would not work. You need a sprint device
Thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on December 02, 2020, 12:00:50 AM
Looking for a good 4G flip phone that will work with Sprint.
Also would an unlocked flip phone work with Sprint?
The Coolpad Snap is a 4G device for Sprint https://coolpad.us/snap-sprint-boost/
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on December 02, 2020, 04:23:44 PM
The Coolpad Snap is a 4G device for Sprint https://coolpad.us/snap-sprint-boost/
anyone have this? Is it a good device?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 02, 2020, 11:32:18 PM
anyone have this? Is it a good device?

trash
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: lcm on December 03, 2020, 09:49:38 AM
trash
Please explain
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on December 03, 2020, 09:55:54 PM
trash
What's the problem with the Coolpad Snap?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Little Bob on December 04, 2020, 12:39:12 AM
What is a better phone, the lg classic or the schok flip phone?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 04, 2020, 04:01:43 AM
What is a better phone, the lg classic or the schok flip phone?
For what service?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Little Bob on December 04, 2020, 06:17:34 AM
Tracfone or page plus, the schok phone is supposed to work with Verizon carriers mid month
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on December 05, 2020, 07:24:18 PM
Lg Classic is FAR better.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yesitsme on December 06, 2020, 03:09:14 AM
trash
Yup, a waste of money I had it, went to the Sonim XP3
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yesitsme on December 06, 2020, 03:09:48 AM
Could anyone please update the wiki about the LG classic? Thanks
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 07, 2020, 07:00:19 PM
Could anyone please update the wiki about the LG classic? Thanks
Added. I claim no ownership... everyone can edit to add.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yesitsme on December 07, 2020, 08:08:09 PM
Being that page plus is owned by tracfone would it work on the classic?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_Plus_Cellular
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 07, 2020, 08:55:23 PM
Being that page plus is owned by tracfone would it work on the classic?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_Plus_Cellular
Yes, should. (The should is because it can be a branded device to a specific brand and in that case you might need to work a bit to get them to re-brand it, which is true between the other Tracfone carriers as well.)

PP even sells this device https://www.pagepluscellular.com/phones/lg-classic-flip/
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yosef789 on December 09, 2020, 09:31:45 AM
Looking for good quality non-smartphone with a full keyboard, to be used with a SIM on one of Canada's leading networks (Bell, Telus, Rogers, Fido).

All suggestions appreciated.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on December 09, 2020, 09:59:23 PM
Looking for good quality non-smartphone with a full keyboard, to be used with a SIM on one of Canada's leading networks (Bell, Telus, Rogers, Fido).

All suggestions appreciated.
'Non-smartphone' and 'full-keyboard' don't go together anymore...
My only (somewhat) suggestion is www.thelightphone.com (http://www.thelightphone.com) with it's on-screen full keyboard.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 14, 2020, 09:09:03 PM
Get the LG Classic and if you want it on Verizon buy the Net10 Model if you want it on Tmobile buy the Walmart Mobile one and I can filter it for $25
I was hoping the walmart braded one would work with T-Mobile, no luck.(Invalid sim).
   And the Tracfone one did not work for Verizon service with a Verizon sim.

 There must be one of these places that can unlock it for you still haven't found one yet.

 
Title: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: elikay on December 14, 2020, 09:19:53 PM
I was hoping the walmart braded one would work with T-Mobile, no luck.(Invalid sim).
   And the Tracfone one did not work for Verizon service with a Verizon sim.

 There must be one of these places that can unlock it for you still haven't found one yet.
The Walmart one works on T-Mobile network but locked to Tracfone.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 14, 2020, 09:31:34 PM
The Walmart one works on T-Mobile network but locked to Tracfone.
Indeed as I tried with my T-Mobile SIM card and was not successful.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 15, 2020, 06:57:58 PM
If a google voice number forwards to a cell phone (not smartphone), is there any way to make outgoing calls from the cell phone using the GV number?
(I am assuming not but asking just in case)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 15, 2020, 07:00:16 PM
If a google voice number forwards to a cell phone (not smartphone), is there any way to make outgoing calls from the cell phone using the GV number?
(I am assuming not but asking just in case)
Not automatically, but you can dial out from the Google Voice menu option 2.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 15, 2020, 07:02:39 PM
Not automatically, but you can dial out from the Google Voice menu option 2.
Even without a smartphone? How does it work?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 15, 2020, 07:07:44 PM
Even without a smartphone? How does it work?
In the menu that you call in to listen to your voicemails you can press 2 to make an outgoing call.

You call to the GV number and press * when you get to the VM greeting (or set in the GV setting online that it should right away go to the menu when calling from your number, to change this setting you'd need to switch to the old GV interface [https://www.google.com/voice/b/0/redirection/voice] there you should find it under Phones>Edit>Advanced.)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 15, 2020, 07:12:33 PM
In the menu that you call in to listen to your voicemails you can press 2 to make an outgoing call.

You call to the GV number and press * when you get to the VM greeting (or set in the GV setting online that it should right away go to the menu when calling from your number, to change this setting you'd need to switch to the old GV interface [https://www.google.com/voice/b/0/redirection/voice] there you should find it under Phones>Edit>Advanced.)
got it, thanks!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on December 15, 2020, 08:55:07 PM
If a google voice number forwards to a cell phone (not smartphone), is there any way to make outgoing calls from the cell phone using the GV number?
(I am assuming not but asking just in case)
Using shadow numbers
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 15, 2020, 10:28:06 PM
Using shadow numbers
What's that?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on December 15, 2020, 11:25:20 PM
What's that?
https://github.com/ipopov/docs/blob/master/google-voice-dumbphone.md
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: TzviR on December 16, 2020, 12:12:44 AM
If a google voice number forwards to a cell phone (not smartphone), is there any way to make outgoing calls from the cell phone using the GV number?
(I am assuming not but asking just in case)
when a gv text forwards, every contact gets its own unique number and when you call or text that number from your regular number it calls/texts as if you were using gv. There's also the option mentioned above but this is easier, only downside is that they need to text you first for you to get that number.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yo ssi on December 16, 2020, 10:32:15 AM
In the menu that you call in to listen to your voicemails you can press 2 to make an outgoing call.

You call to the GV number and press * when you get to the VM greeting (or set in the GV setting online that it should right away go to the menu when calling from your number, to change this setting you'd need to switch to the old GV interface [https://www.google.com/voice/b/0/redirection/voice] there you should find it under Phones>Edit>Advanced.)
I don't have such an option
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 16, 2020, 10:40:33 AM
I don't have such an option
Don't have this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/VL6KNm25/image.png)
What do you see there?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yo ssi on December 16, 2020, 10:57:37 AM
Don't have this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/7bF3s8Hy/image.png) (https://postimg.cc/7bF3s8Hy)
What do you see there?
I guess I gotta add a phone first.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 16, 2020, 10:59:35 AM
https://github.com/ipopov/docs/blob/master/google-voice-dumbphone.md
when a gv text forwards, every contact gets its own unique number and when you call or text that number from your regular number it calls/texts as if you were using gv. There's also the option mentioned above but this is easier, only downside is that they need to text you first for you to get that number.
Thanks! Any way for this to work without texting?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yo ssi on December 16, 2020, 11:09:59 AM
I guess I gotta add a phone first.
When trying to call through Google voice on a different number it requires the phone number of a linked phone, is there anyway to add a forwarding phone that it won't actually forward to? (My problem is my phone isn't a US number)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 16, 2020, 11:12:56 AM
When trying to call through Google voice on a different number it requires the phone number of a linked phone, is there anyway to add a forwarding phone that it won't actually forward to? (My problem is my phone isn't a US number)
You can turn off the forwarding right after you confirm the #.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 16, 2020, 11:13:51 AM
When trying to call through Google voice on a different number it requires the phone number of a linked phone, is there anyway to add a forwarding phone that it won't actually forward to? (My problem is my phone isn't a US number)
You can toggle call forwarding Off for a linked number.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yo ssi on December 16, 2020, 11:37:05 AM
You can turn off the forwarding right after you confirm the #.
You can toggle call forwarding Off for a linked number.
Anyway to avoid having to have a second number? (Or have a non US number)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 16, 2020, 11:43:19 AM
Anyway to avoid having to have a second number? (Or have a non US number)
Not sure what "avoid having to have a second number" means. Can'r you link it to your number?

Also, are you sure you can't call in to the menu from any number? IIRC you can do it from any number, it will just prompt you first to enter one of the forwarding number.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yo ssi on December 16, 2020, 11:45:20 AM
Not sure what "avoid having to have a second number" means. Can'r you link it to your number?

Also, are you sure you can't call in to the menu from any number? IIRC you can do it from any number, it will just prompt you first to enter one of the forwarding number.
If I don't have a US number then it can't be added as a forwarding number and therefore when I call in from a different number I have no forwarding number to put in..
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 16, 2020, 11:46:44 AM
If I don't have a US number then it can't be added as a forwarding number and therefore when I call in from a different number I have no forwarding number to put in..
Oh, don't believe there is a workaround for that.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: how on December 16, 2020, 03:06:29 PM
What is the best-unlimted plan for a LG classic?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: TzviR on December 16, 2020, 05:20:25 PM
If I don't have a US number then it can't be added as a forwarding number and therefore when I call in from a different number I have no forwarding number to put in..
i have never actually used this so i have no experience with it, but you can try to add a mailinator phone number as your forwarding number and then turn off forwarding once its verified.
https://www.mailinator.com/v3/#/#inboxpane
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: TzviR on December 16, 2020, 05:21:19 PM
Thanks! Any way for this to work without texting?
I don't know of any
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on December 17, 2020, 09:11:16 PM
What is the best-unlimted plan for a LG classic?
As far as I know, the cheapest is Tracfone's $20/month unlimited talk and text + 1GB data https://www.tracfone.com/shop/plans/smartphone-1-month-plan-1gb-unlimited
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on December 18, 2020, 12:23:22 AM
What is the best-unlimted plan for a LG classic?
https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ah giten on December 18, 2020, 01:43:38 PM
when buying a Tracfone lg classic, what towers do they use?
Tracfone sells sims for VZ T-mobile and AT&T.
 
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 18, 2020, 01:52:43 PM
when buying a Tracfone lg classic, what towers do they use?
Tracfone sells sims for VZ T-mobile and AT&T.
How do you know which type of sim you are buying?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ah giten on December 18, 2020, 02:58:08 PM
How do you know which type of sim you are buying?
you can select. On ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/283448464240
was last night avail for $20.
You snooze you lose.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 18, 2020, 02:58:42 PM
you can select. On ebay.
i bought mine at target. the lady there didn't know.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 19, 2020, 07:21:35 PM
you can select. On ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/283448464240
was last night avail for $20.
You snooze you lose.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Net10-Prepaid-Wireless-Phone-Plan-SIM-Unlimited-Talk-Text-1GB-per-Month/283471229567?

 This is a great price for a year of unlmtd, for use on a Classic flip.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 19, 2020, 07:24:42 PM
i bought mine at target. the lady there didn't know.
Your phone is branded one way usually to work with a gsm or cdma network.
 What's your imei number, or what's the model number?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 19, 2020, 07:26:38 PM
Your phone is branded one way usually to work with a gsm or cdma network.
 What's your imei number, or what's the model number?
does lgl125dl make sense?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 19, 2020, 07:35:28 PM
you can select. On ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/283448464240
was last night avail for $20.
You snooze you lose.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Net10-Unlimited-Plan-Unlimited-Talk-Text-2GB-Data-with-30-Days-of-Service/283476003275?
 2gb for $20
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ah giten on December 19, 2020, 08:24:31 PM
Your phone is branded one way usually to work with a gsm or cdma network.
 What's your imei number, or what's the model number?
do you have an answer to this?
when buying a Tracfone lg classic, what towers do they use?Tracfone sells sims for VZ T-mobile and AT&T.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 19, 2020, 09:04:04 PM
do you have an answer to this?
Depends on what device you buy.
 Walmart sells a TMobile(GSM branded) and an CDMA one.

While TracFone seems to only sell the Verizon(CDMA) branded one.
Which is now avlb for $19.99

 If you look at the info supplied or run the IMEI number on one of these free sites online it should tell you the status of the device.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Wmt-Family-Mobile-Wfm-Lg-Classic-Flip-L125dl-Gsm/812717006
Gsm $30

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tracfone-Wireless-LG-Classic-Flip-8GB-Black-Prepaid-Flip-Phone/679025506?findingMethod=wpa
Tracfone cdma $30

https://shop.tracfone.com/shop/en/tracfonestore/phones/tf-lg-classic-flip-l125dl
CDMA
Tracfone $19.99
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 19, 2020, 09:07:28 PM
Where can I find the IMEI?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 19, 2020, 09:13:54 PM
Where can I find the IMEI?
Back of the device, under the battery.
 Or dial *#06#
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 19, 2020, 09:18:06 PM
Decent price for an LG classic flip and one year of service.

$19.99 for the device and then for 1200 min(20hrs a month) 1200 text and 1.2gb( seems whatever you don't use will be carried over the next month.)
 If you're using a flip phone there's no reason to have 1.2 GB.
$99 for the 365 day plan and each month Usage resets.

 And then you can use a referral code to get another 8,000 bonus points good enough for some more free service.

   I have yet to refer anyone as of yet so I'm still holding by 5,000 points but there's many referral codes out there for 8k.
  And then even more from the stuff that's not allowed to be discussed here.

 And use the code Holiday25 for another $5 off the phone and service bundled together.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 19, 2020, 09:30:16 PM
It tells me Carrier = Tracfone. Doesn't say anything about GSM or CDMA :(
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 19, 2020, 09:43:47 PM
The part number written under the battery is gplg125dcgb. Does that tell us anything? (It's different than both the part numbers listed on walmart.com for the two versions linked upthread.)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 20, 2020, 11:22:02 AM
Okay I just chatted with tracfone, the phone sold at Target is a Verizon CDMA phone.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mf1 on December 20, 2020, 11:41:32 AM
is there a way to forward my sms messages to another number?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: TzviR on December 20, 2020, 02:39:17 PM
is there a way to forward my sms messages to another number?
assuming you're asking about a flip phone, no. Google voice is great for forwarding messages if that works for you, I have also heard of apps that do it on a smartphone (never used them).
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ah giten on December 20, 2020, 03:06:19 PM
Depends on what device you buy.
 Walmart sells a TMobile(GSM branded) and an CDMA one.

While TracFone seems to only sell the Verizon(CDMA) branded one.
Which is now avlb for $19.99

 If you look at the info supplied or run the IMEI number on one of these free sites online it should tell you the status of the device.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Wmt-Family-Mobile-Wfm-Lg-Classic-Flip-L125dl-Gsm/812717006 (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Wmt-Family-Mobile-Wfm-Lg-Classic-Flip-L125dl-Gsm/812717006)
Gsm $30

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tracfone-Wireless-LG-Classic-Flip-8GB-Black-Prepaid-Flip-Phone/679025506?findingMethod=wpa (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tracfone-Wireless-LG-Classic-Flip-8GB-Black-Prepaid-Flip-Phone/679025506?findingMethod=wpa)
Tracfone cdma $30

https://shop.tracfone.com/shop/en/tracfonestore/phones/tf-lg-classic-flip-l125dl (https://shop.tracfone.com/shop/en/tracfonestore/phones/tf-lg-classic-flip-l125dl)
CDMA
Tracfone $19.99
I just got this from Tracfone chat.
"This phone has a dual network since the model number has "DL' at the end. It can be used both on CDMA and GSM network."
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 20, 2020, 03:17:23 PM
I just got this from Tracfone chat.
"This phone has a dual network since the model number has "DL' at the end. It can be used both on CDMA and GSM network."
Where did you buy it?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ah giten on December 20, 2020, 09:09:48 PM
Where did you buy it?
Didnt buy yet, but want a phone that I can use on sprint/T-mobile once it's unlocked.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 20, 2020, 09:10:44 PM
Didnt buy yet, but want a phone that I can use on sprint/T-mobile once it's unlocked.
So what did they mean by "this phone"? were they referring to buying it from tracfone.com?
If they mean wherever you buy it, then one of our chat reps didn't know what they were talking about.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 20, 2020, 09:43:56 PM
Didnt buy yet, but want a phone that I can use on sprint/T-mobile once it's unlocked.
If you do find a way to unlock it, please keep me in the loop.
  Unless you plan on using it for a year?

 For me i rather pay $99 for a year of service than pay an exorbitant amount amount like $50 for an unlocking service.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 20, 2020, 09:45:53 PM
Does the phone unlock automatically after a year?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 20, 2020, 10:10:29 PM
Does the phone unlock automatically after a year?
Seems that's when they'll unlock it for you.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ah giten on December 20, 2020, 10:16:18 PM
If you do find a way to unlock it, please keep me in the loop.
  Unless you plan on using it for a year?

 For me i rather pay $99 for a year of service than pay an exorbitant amount amount like $50 for an unlocking service.
I assume that the plan Iposted above from ebay, was 1200 min for 365 days of service, should trigger the unlcoking.
I wouldn't use the phone for the year. but I'll have an unlocked phone after the the year, for just 19.99 for the phone and $20 for 1 year of service.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 20, 2020, 10:17:17 PM
I assume that the plan Iposted above from ebay, was 1200 min for 365 days of service, should trigger the unlcoking.
I wouldn't use the phone for the year. but I'll have an unlocked phone after the the year, for just 19.99 for the phone and $20 for 1 year of service.
Don't think it was $20 for the year!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 20, 2020, 10:22:22 PM
I assume that the plan Iposted above from ebay, was 1200 min for 365 days of service, should trigger the unlcoking.
I wouldn't use the phone for the year. but I'll have an unlocked phone after the the year, for just 19.99 for the phone and $20 for 1 year of service.
Indeed it seems it was for the year. I guess to leave it for a year it might be worth it.

 But for another $80 you can get Service for a year which you can use, and sign up for the rewards to get even more free usage.
 Using a referral code.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 20, 2020, 10:42:56 PM
Depends on what device you buy.
 Walmart sells a TMobile(GSM branded) and an CDMA one.

While TracFone seems to only sell the Verizon(CDMA) branded one.
Which is now avlb for $19.99

 If you look at the info supplied or run the IMEI number on one of these free sites online it should tell you the status of the device.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Wmt-Family-Mobile-Wfm-Lg-Classic-Flip-L125dl-Gsm/812717006
Gsm $30

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tracfone-Wireless-LG-Classic-Flip-8GB-Black-Prepaid-Flip-Phone/679025506?findingMethod=wpa
Tracfone cdma $30

https://shop.tracfone.com/shop/en/tracfonestore/phones/tf-lg-classic-flip-l125dl
CDMA
Tracfone $19.99
I just chatted with tracfone again. Seems like the one I bought at Target is the same as the one they sell at tracfone.com - the CDMA one.

Is there anywhere to buy an AT&T one besides ebay?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 20, 2020, 10:59:10 PM
I just chatted with tracfone again. Seems like the one I bought at Target is the same as the one they sell at tracfone.com - the CDMA one.

Is there anywhere to buy an AT&T one besides ebay?
Walmart.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 20, 2020, 10:59:31 PM
Walmart.
I thought their Walmart Family one was tmobile?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 20, 2020, 11:02:26 PM
I thought their Walmart Family one was tmobile?
That's the closest you're going to get for an At&t phone.

Depends on what device you buy.
 Walmart sells a TMobile(GSM branded) and an CDMA one.

While TracFone seems to only sell the Verizon(CDMA) branded one.
Which is now avlb for $19.99

 If you look at the info supplied or run the IMEI number on one of these free sites online it should tell you the status of the device.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Wmt-Family-Mobile-Wfm-Lg-Classic-Flip-L125dl-Gsm/812717006
Gsm $30

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tracfone-Wireless-LG-Classic-Flip-8GB-Black-Prepaid-Flip-Phone/679025506?findingMethod=wpa
Tracfone cdma $30

https://shop.tracfone.com/shop/en/tracfonestore/phones/tf-lg-classic-flip-l125dl
CDMA
Tracfone $19.99
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 20, 2020, 11:03:13 PM
That's the closest you're going to get for an At&t phone.
What does it mean? Can it be changed to AT&T?
Is the ebay one better?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 20, 2020, 11:08:36 PM
Does the phone unlock automatically after a year?
https://www.tfwunlockpolicy.com/wps/portal/home/
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 20, 2020, 11:10:40 PM
That's the closest you're going to get for an At&t phone.
Are you saying if I get the walmart one I  can use with with a different carrier over AT&T?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 20, 2020, 11:14:48 PM
What does it mean? Can it be changed to AT&T?
Is the ebay one better?
Where you see an at&t one from ebay?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 20, 2020, 11:15:18 PM
Are you saying if I get the walmart one I  can use with with a different carrier over AT&T?
AS long as the bands match you can use it
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: best on December 20, 2020, 11:15:58 PM
what is now the best option for T-Mobile?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 20, 2020, 11:16:21 PM
Where you see an at&t one from ebay?
didn't you post a link to one?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 20, 2020, 11:16:47 PM
AS long as the bands match you can use it
right away, or after unlocking it after 12 months?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 20, 2020, 11:17:50 PM
didn't you post a link to one?
Service yes, not an lg classic,
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 20, 2020, 11:19:44 PM
Service yes, not an lg classic,
ohh
can you use it with the walmart lg classic?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 20, 2020, 11:29:33 PM
ohh
can you use it with the walmart lg classic?
It's a tracfone device so it seems yes.
  But before sticking any sim card in it other than a tracfone branded one you will need it unlocked.
 So you can have it rebranded to work on NET10, StraightTalk, TRacFone, Total wireless and etc.. Meaning they all offer service with all the major carriers, depending on the phone is what service you'll buy.

  I'll end up buying service after all my free service sims are used up.
 and if you do plan on getting service, make an account and get a referral code to sign up for the rewards to earn more free service.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 20, 2020, 11:41:07 PM
It's a tracfone device so it seems yes.
  But before sticking any sim card in it other than a tracfone branded one you will need it unlocked.
 So you can have it rebranded to work on NET10, StraightTalk, TRacFone, Total wireless and etc.. Meaning they all offer service with all the major carriers, depending on the phone is what service you'll buy.

  I'll end up buying service after all my free service sims are used up.
 and if you do plan on getting service, make an account and get a referral code to sign up for the rewards to earn more free service.
Thanks for bearing with me! I'm still trying to understand :)

Do rebrand and unlock mean the same thing?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: justaregularguy on December 20, 2020, 11:50:51 PM
Sorry, just popping in here for a brief second to note how impressed I am that this thread is very active. A flip phone thread? Its always on the first page usually at the top! Interesting!  :)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 20, 2020, 11:51:49 PM
Sorry, just popping in here for a brief second to note how impressed I am that this thread is very active. A flip phone thread? Its always on the first page usually at the top! Interesting!  :)
It's my fault, I'm still trying to wrap my head around what we're talking about :D
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 20, 2020, 11:52:39 PM
Okay let's start again.

I'm looking to purchase a new phone (4g). I'd like it to use AT&T's network. The LG Classic phone was recommended to me as a good phone.

I currently have service with Airvoice Wireless (prepaid over AT&T's network) but am okay with porting my number to another carrier if need be.

Is there anywhere I can purchase the LG Classic for this use case?

Thanks!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 20, 2020, 11:58:37 PM


Okay let's start again.

I'm looking to purchase a new phone (4g). I'd like it to use AT&T's network. The LG Classic phone was recommended to me as a good phone.

I currently have service with Airvoice Wireless (prepaid over AT&T's network) but am okay with porting my number to another carrier if need be.

Is there anywhere I can purchase the LG Classic for this use case?

Thanks!

First question I have is how much your paying for service and what you getting?

 And next question is why bedavka do you need or want at&t service?

 Then we can lead you to the next option.

 I have a bunch of Kyocera Cadence devices they are a beast, solid amazing phone.

  But will cost you close to $100 for one.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 21, 2020, 12:05:50 AM

First question I have is how much your paying for service and what you getting?

 And next question is why bedavka do you need or want at&t service?

 Then we can lead you to the next option.

 I have a bunch of Kyocera Cadence devices they are a beast, solid amazing phone.

  But will cost you close to $100 for one.
1. $20/month unlimited talk (and texting but that's blocked anyways)
2. Asked around and it's the best of the lot in an area where everything is spotty (though Verizon would be the runner up, so if AT&T is too much to ask for, I'll stick with the Verizon LG Classic I bought at Target)
3. Is Kyocera Cadence better than LG Classic? Enough better to justify the extra cost?

Thanks!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on December 21, 2020, 12:13:01 AM
1. $20/month unlimited talk (and texting but that's blocked anyways)
2. Asked around and it's the best of the lot in an area where everything is spotty (though Verizon would be the runner up, so if AT&T is too much to ask for, I'll stick with the Verizon LG Classic I bought at Target)
3. Is Kyocera Cadence better than LG Classic? Enough better to justify the extra cost?

Thanks!
$20 is not cheap
Here is $99 (plus tax)for a year of service on the AT&T network
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Net10-Prepaid-Wireless-Phone-Plan-SIM-Unlimited-Talk-Text-1GB-per-Month-/283471229567?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Net10-Prepaid-Wireless-Phone-Plan-SIM-Unlimited-Talk-Text-1GB-per-Month-/283471229567?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292)

And here is a $10 plus tax plan on Verizon network unlimited talk and text with 1gb data.
mobi.com (http://mobi.com)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 21, 2020, 12:14:00 AM
$20 is not cheap
Here is $99 (plus tax)for a year of service on the AT&T network
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Net10-Prepaid-Wireless-Phone-Plan-SIM-Unlimited-Talk-Text-1GB-per-Month-/283471229567?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Net10-Prepaid-Wireless-Phone-Plan-SIM-Unlimited-Talk-Text-1GB-per-Month-/283471229567?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292)

And here is a $10 plus tax plan on Verizon network unlimited talk and text with 1gb data.
mobi.com (http://mobi.com)
Thanks!

Could that net10 sim work on an LG Classic phone? If yes, what should I buy (the Walmart one?) and what do I need to do to get it to work?

TY
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on December 21, 2020, 12:18:26 AM
Thanks!

Could that net10 sim work on an LG Classic phone? If yes, what should I buy (the Walmart one?) and what do I need to do to get it to work?

TY
I dont have experience with that , but I have currently active a few lines that work on the Tmobile network and I am using a Verizon lg classic and the sonim XP-3 and I am getting 4g LTE on them
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 21, 2020, 12:38:19 AM
I dont have experience with that , but I have currently active a few lines that work on the Tmobile network and I am using a Verizon lg classic and the sonim XP-3 and I am getting 4g LTE on them
What service you using with the classic?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 21, 2020, 12:57:21 AM
1. $20/month unlimited talk (and texting but that's blocked anyways)
2. Asked around and it's the best of the lot in an area where everything is spotty (though Verizon would be the runner up, so if AT&T is too much to ask for, I'll stick with the Verizon LG Classic I bought at Target)
3. Is Kyocera Cadence better than LG Classic? Enough better to justify the extra cost?

Thanks!
1. So that is offered with many different plans and like i linked and BZNT, the $99 plan is just what you want (only in stock for at&t and t-mobile plans. The verizon plan seems to be sold out as you can see for yourself.
  since i'm not familiar with the bands i do not know if it will work properly on at&t when its a tmobile phone, will have to check on that.
  Now i will try tom bli neder to rebrand my walmart Lg classic to a NET10 phone (not even sure if you have to, should work without rebranding it.)
 But will confirm if it works tom sometime in the morning hopefully.

2. Yes if you can find a decent plan for verizon like there is for the at&t then yes go fo it and keep the target phone. The basic $10 plan for unlmtd everything wont work for you from mobi.com as the lg classic flip is locked, so that's not an option.
 And the walmart device seems to be a better option unless you can find a verizon plan for a decent price, no reason to pay $20 a month for talk, when it can be found for $10 or even $99 for unlmtd.

3.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 21, 2020, 01:00:00 AM
Now i will try tom bli neder to rebrand my walmart Lg classic to a NET10 phone (not even sure if you have to, should work without rebranding it.)
 But will confirm if it works tom sometime in the morning hopefully.
That would be amazing, thanks so much!

Also wondering - what happens when you finish one of those sim card plus 1 year plans? Do you port your number to a new sim card for the next year, or is there an easier way to switch to a new 1 year service plan?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 21, 2020, 01:30:42 AM
That would be amazing, thanks so much!

Also wondering - what happens when you finish one of those sim card plus 1 year plans? Do you port your number to a new sim card for the next year, or is there an easier way to switch to a new 1 year service plan?
You worry about it when the year is up. Lol
 I'm sure they can just continue your service once you have the card.

 And to answer your third question, yes the Kyocera Cadence(lg exalt as well) is a much better phone than the LG classic flip.

 It's better in a way that it's a bit faster doesn't have any type of skip lag.
  Not that the LG classic has a skip flag that you're going to notice.
   
 
   While I did play around with LG classic flip it is definitely a great phone compared to all other junks out there.
  But no it's not the best phone out there.
 But if you do need a phone that's my go-to phone.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 21, 2020, 01:35:04 AM
That would be amazing, thanks so much!

Also wondering - what happens when you finish one of those sim card plus 1 year plans? Do you port your number to a new sim card for the next year, or is there an easier way to switch to a new 1 year service plan?
Off to bed. Will clarify things tomorrow hopefully.
 לילה טוב...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 21, 2020, 02:11:01 AM
That would be amazing, thanks so much!

Also wondering - what happens when you finish one of those sim card plus 1 year plans? Do you port your number to a new sim card for the next year, or is there an easier way to switch to a new 1 year service plan?
Lots of info here.
 But nice little review.

https://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1919078-New-Tracfone-LG-Classic-Flip-L125DL-Quick-Review?p=17134841#post17134841
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ah giten on December 21, 2020, 02:24:46 AM
Lots of info here.
 But nice little review.

https://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1919078-New-Tracfone-LG-Classic-Flip-L125DL-Quick-Review?p=17134841#post17134841
So this is from bed... I see.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 21, 2020, 02:28:34 AM
So this is from bed... I see.
Lol, got cought up reading through that forum, with my cut up apple for midnight snack.

 Now I'm really off!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on December 21, 2020, 07:17:50 AM
What service you using with the classic?
I am sorry I mixed up. I dont have the LG classic. I have the LG Exalt and I use simple mobile which operates on Tmobile. I have used red pocket Verizon on it before
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on December 21, 2020, 07:28:00 AM

First question I have is how much your paying for service and what you getting?

 And next question is why bedavka do you need or want at&t service?

 Then we can lead you to the next option.

 I have a bunch of Kyocera Cadence devices they are a beast, solid amazing phone.

  But will cost you close to $100 for one.
If you want to stick to AT&T, I see that target has the Alcatel smart flip for $40
 https://www.target.com/p/at-38-t-prepaid-alcatel-smartflip-phone-4gb-black/-/A-76616258 (https://www.target.com/p/at-38-t-prepaid-alcatel-smartflip-phone-4gb-black/-/A-76616258)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 21, 2020, 08:04:39 AM
If you want to stick to AT&T, I see that target has the Alcatel smart flip for $40
 https://www.target.com/p/at-38-t-prepaid-alcatel-smartflip-phone-4gb-black/-/A-76616258 (https://www.target.com/p/at-38-t-prepaid-alcatel-smartflip-phone-4gb-black/-/A-76616258)
Don't touch that phone.

 Bought two of those for two family members and they hate it, I had used it myself for a bit to see what it's all about, and I did not like it.
So working on the lg classic now.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 21, 2020, 08:05:25 AM
I am sorry I mixed up. I dont have the LG classic. I have the LG Exalt and I use simple mobile which operates on Tmobile. I have used red pocket Verizon on it before
The phone worked on both with 4g ? Meaning on Verizon and then on T-Mobile?

 It's which version of the exalt?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 21, 2020, 11:24:02 AM
You worry about it when the year is up. Lol
 I'm sure they can just continue your service once you have the card.

 And to answer your third question, yes the Kyocera Cadence(lg exalt as well) is a much better phone than the LG classic flip.

 It's better in a way that it's a bit faster doesn't have any type of skip lag.
  Not that the LG classic has a skip flag that you're going to notice.
   
 
   While I did play around with LG classic flip it is definitely a great phone compared to all other junks out there.
  But no it's not the best phone out there.
 But if you do need a phone that's my go-to phone.
Thanks!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 21, 2020, 01:51:13 PM
If you want the LG Classic I prefer the Walmart Mobile one because it uses T-Mobile towers and also supports wifi calling.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 21, 2020, 01:51:57 PM
If you want the LG Classic I prefer the Walmart Mobile one because it uses T-Mobile towers and also supports wifi calling.
Thank you for the advice! Is there an AT&T service/plan that you know it could work with? Such as Net10 or similar?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 21, 2020, 01:52:19 PM
You worry about it when the year is up. Lol
 I'm sure they can just continue your service once you have the card.

 And to answer your third question, yes the Kyocera Cadence(lg exalt as well) is a much better phone than the LG classic flip.

 It's better in a way that it's a bit faster doesn't have any type of skip lag.
  Not that the LG classic has a skip flag that you're going to notice.
   
 
   While I did play around with LG classic flip it is definitely a great phone compared to all other junks out there.
  But no it's not the best phone out there.
 But if you do need a phone that's my go-to phone.

You are comparing a $30 phone to a $200 phone.... Show me 1 phone that cost $30 that is better then the LG Classic?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 21, 2020, 01:52:34 PM
Thank you for the advice! Is there an AT&T service/plan that you know it could work with? Such as Net10 or similar?

None.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on December 21, 2020, 02:23:52 PM
You are comparing a $30 phone to a $200 phone.... Show me 1 phone that cost $30 that is better then the LG Classic?
Agree but you are making up for the price with basically a 1yr contract. An unlocked Kyocera Or LG Exalt can cost you less than $15 a month (us cellular) and in the long run possibly save you money... and a better phone..,
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 21, 2020, 02:47:59 PM
Agree but you are making up for the price with basically a 1yr contract. An unlocked Kyocera Or LG Exalt can cost you less than $15 a month (us cellular) and in the long run possibly save you money... and a better phone..,

Still not the same thing. You cant get that phone on a $10 or $20 plan. Not everyone can afford a $200 device.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 21, 2020, 02:50:37 PM
You can get the Verizon LG Classic + one month of service for $50 at target and get a $40 gift card, so your OOP is $10. Then it's just $20/month for the cheapest plan with unlimited talk/text.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 21, 2020, 02:52:00 PM
Lol, your kind of cute.
 
 What if I told you once upon a time the Kyocera Cadence was $30, and so was the LG Exalt.
  And now added to the  collection is the LG classic, the same run of the mill valued at $30 NOW!
  One major caveat of the device in this scenario is that it's locked to tracfone and not unlocked or locked to Verizon.

 That will definitely keep the phone at a lower price for a bit until an unlock code/key is generated for use in the public without the required Yr of service.

 What I find quite ironic here, is usually the prices of cell phones go down not up.
 But in the market of flip phones where there are very few decent, good solid phones, as soon as a manufacturer stops making a select device which people loved,
  Then those devices will be worth a lot more money as it's hard to come by.
 
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 21, 2020, 02:56:01 PM
Still not the same thing. You cant get that phone on a $10 or $20 plan. Not everyone can afford a $200 device.
FTFY

 And btw way I can get you a Kyocera for $100-$125. Brand new!
 So the $200 market is maybe for the exalt which I have yet to see around brand new. I happen to have 6 of them which I have laying around with broken ribbon cables.
 Need to have them fixed when I get around to it.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 21, 2020, 02:57:37 PM
If you want the LG Classic I prefer the Walmart Mobile one because it uses T-Mobile towers and also supports wifi calling.
Does wifi calling work even with the filter installed?
And does it work on the verizon cdma version?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 21, 2020, 03:00:26 PM
Does wifi calling work even with the filter installed?
And does it work on the verizon cdma version?
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
 It's so complicated to get the Bands for each device.
 Will try with the FCC number and see what's listed.

 Not quite sure why someone would use a GSM phone to use on Verizon when you can very nicely use a CDMA phone which I would assume has more bands for its service when using CDMA.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: TzviR on December 21, 2020, 03:03:40 PM
And btw way I can get you a Kyocera for $100-$125. Brand new!
where??
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 21, 2020, 04:24:47 PM
my question was if wifi calling works on the verizon lg classic
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 21, 2020, 04:33:48 PM
my question was if wifi calling works on the verizon lg classic

No wifi calling does not work on the Verizon model "tracfone" or net10 it only works on the Walmart Mobile brand and yes with MY filter wifi calling still works.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 21, 2020, 04:39:11 PM
No wifi calling does not work on the Verizon model "tracfone" or net10 it only works on the Walmart Mobile brand and yes with MY filter wifi calling still works.
TY
I wonder why they made that difference between the verizon and the wm/tmobile versions!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 21, 2020, 05:25:45 PM
  Now i will try tom bli neder to rebrand my walmart Lg classic to a NET10 phone (not even sure if you have to, should work without rebranding it.)
 But will confirm if it works tom sometime in the morning hopefully.
did you end up trying this? no pressure, just wondering
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 21, 2020, 05:59:16 PM
TY
I wonder why they made that difference between the verizon and the wm/tmobile versions!

Could be that the Verizon agreement with Tracfone does not support it. I have some other LG Wine LTE that I can add it enable Wifi calling if it does not have it enabled in the software.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 21, 2020, 06:00:40 PM
Lol, your kind of cute.

 That will definitely keep the phone at a lower price for a bit until an unlock code/key is generated for use in the public without the required Yr of service.

 

This is funny... Getting a unlock code for a tracfone has not worked in a long time and will never work. Their software is not unlockable with a code. Would be helpful if you actually did some research on this.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 21, 2020, 06:03:03 PM
Could be that the Verizon agreement with Tracfone does not support it. I have some other LG Wine LTE that I can add it enable Wifi calling if it does not have it enabled in the software.
Well if you ever are able to add it to the verizon lg classic that would be awesome!
Looks like that's the phone I'll end up keeping. Already have your filter installed (by tag)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 21, 2020, 06:30:33 PM
Well if you ever are able to add it to the verizon lg classic that would be awesome!
Looks like that's the phone I'll end up keeping. Already have your filter installed (by tag)

Hope you like it and if not let me know and I will see how I can improve it or help.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 21, 2020, 06:34:09 PM
Hope you like it and if not let me know and I will see how I can improve it or help.
So far so good! TY
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 21, 2020, 09:51:06 PM
Does anybody know what network Selectel Wireless uses?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yo ssi on December 21, 2020, 11:18:47 PM
Does anybody know what network Selectel Wireless uses?
C'mon GIYF!

(https://i.postimg.cc/FRrMnKPX/Screenshot-20201221-231817-Chrome-Beta.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z9QsWJtw)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 21, 2020, 11:20:45 PM
C'mon GIYF!

(https://i.postimg.cc/FRrMnKPX/Screenshot-20201221-231817-Chrome-Beta.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z9QsWJtw)
Couldn't find it on their website anywhere! Thx.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 22, 2020, 03:35:33 AM
did you end up trying this? no pressure, just wondering
So I did try using my Walmart Branded TracFone which is a T-Mobile gsm device and used a tracfone verizon sim and it worked just fine. Had 4g LTE service.

 So I would assume vice versa using the same phone with TracFone service which uses at&t or T-Mobile it should work just fine.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 22, 2020, 03:37:44 AM
So I did try using my Walmart Branded TracFone which is a T-Mobile gsm device and used a tracfone verizon sim and it worked just fine. Had 4g LTE service.

 So I would assume vice versa using the same phone with TracFone service which uses at&t or T-Mobile it should work just fine.

 Spent a few minutes with Net10 trying to have them rebrand it, they said they don't have access to the Walmart brand and I would need to reach out to the walmart brand.

 In the meantime just popped out the sim and tried it in the phone(Walmart LG classic GSM model) it worked without rebranding.
 Not quite sure how or why everything is compatible with the LG classics even though it's a GSM.
 Unless both models have all the bands that CDMA have and GSM have to offer.
 Then not quite sure why they're calling it GSM, unless the few added features like Wi-Fi calling?
 
 Here's a screenshot just to verify that it worked.


(https://i.postimg.cc/vHF0Lwyt/IMG-20201221-230007290.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nM2Kp5CX)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 22, 2020, 12:54:40 PM

 Spent a few minutes with Net10 trying to have them rebrand it, they said they don't have access to the Walmart brand and I would need to reach out to the walmart brand.

 In the meantime just popped out the sim and tried it in the phone(Walmart LG classic GSM model) it worked without rebranding.
 Not quite sure how or why everything is compatible with the LG classics even though it's a GSM.
 Unless both models have all the bands that CDMA have and GSM have to offer.
 Then not quite sure why they're calling it GSM, unless the few added features like Wi-Fi calling?
 
 Here's a screenshot just to verify that it worked.


(https://i.postimg.cc/vHF0Lwyt/IMG-20201221-230007290.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nM2Kp5CX)
Thanks!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: best on December 22, 2020, 05:42:36 PM
Can the walmart mobile lg classic be used with a T-Mobile sim card?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 22, 2020, 09:17:04 PM
Can the walmart mobile lg classic be used with a T-Mobile sim card?

NO
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 22, 2020, 09:22:29 PM
Does anybody know if Selected Wireless has better service/reception than Tracfone (verizon)?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on December 23, 2020, 12:32:37 AM
Another Question:
Why are people that switch from Verizon Pre/Postpaid to Tracfone, complaining about worse service? If it runs on verizon, according to the company and much google searching it would seem to have the same coverage, with the only downside being data speed... why are people having issues with voice calls clarity/coverage?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on December 23, 2020, 06:52:08 AM
Another Question:
Why are people that switch from Verizon Pre/Postpaid to Tracfone, complaining about worse service? If it runs on verizon, according to the company and much google searching it would seem to have the same coverage, with the only downside being data speed... why are people having issues with voice calls clarity/coverage?
Carriers prioritize their own traffic over MVNOs
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 23, 2020, 09:07:40 AM
Carriers prioritize their own traffic over MVNOs
Is Selectel also an MVNO?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on December 23, 2020, 09:43:56 AM
Is Selectel also an MVNO?
Yes
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 23, 2020, 11:14:57 AM
Does anybody know if Selected Wireless has better service/reception than Tracfone (verizon)?

Maybe better customer service
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: how on December 23, 2020, 03:07:44 PM
Maybe better customer service
Do any of these cheaper companies on the Verizon network allow you to dial Canada directly ?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on December 23, 2020, 03:40:07 PM
Carriers prioritize their own traffic over MVNOs
Prioritize meaning...? that people should have service in certain areas even for a voice call because there are too many people on the phone in that area??
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 23, 2020, 09:07:14 PM
Do any of these cheaper companies on the Verizon network allow you to dial Canada directly ?
Wing alpha
 I used it for 2-3 months with two different devices worked amazing.
 I can vouch for their service.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: JACKBLUE on December 23, 2020, 09:17:19 PM
Net10 works outside the US? Or Tracfone?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: brooklyndan on December 24, 2020, 12:41:37 AM
Where can I but a solid (not junk) flip phone for a verizon contract (not prepaid) plan for under $100?
I already have the plan, but what verizon is selling online is Alcatel Go Flip V, Orbic Journey L or V, Kazuna etalk?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: how on December 24, 2020, 01:07:26 AM
Wing alpha
 I used it for 2-3 months with two different devices worked amazing.
 I can vouch for their service.
thanks
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: TzviR on December 24, 2020, 12:22:59 PM
Ok this has probably been discussed in here somewhere but I cant find it and dont want to go through 70 pages right now.

Quote from:  Wiki
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/

These are the only 4g options right now??
I currently have a Go flip 3 and HATE it. I have had very bad experience with the alcatel phones, cheaply built, lots of lag and just overall not a great phone.

I have yet to own the Schok, although I keep on considering trying it out. I'm assuming that it wasn't so great based off the fact that the price dropped in half since it came out.
(Then again thats normal with phones, although it doesnt seem to be that way in the flip phone market. In addition I noticed that theres no gen.2 that has come out since.) if anybody has had any experience with this phone I would love to hear more about it!

Based on the wiki I am assuming that there's no Kyocera that can be used 4g with T-Mobile.

I would love to move to a Verizon plan but I'm currently stuck with T-Mobile and cant change.

is there any good options for T-Mobile or is it similar to sprint, just you're actually paying for a decent plan and there's still no phones??

I'm assuming that a locked family mobile phone cant be used with T-Mobile, otherwise I would give the Family Mobile Classic Flip a try. If I'm wrong about this please let me know.

if anybody has any insight on this for me I would love for some help. TIA
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 24, 2020, 12:29:14 PM
If I understand correctly, the WM Family Mobile TMobile LG Classic phone because unlocked after 1 year, so if you know someone who bought one a year ago, maybe you can by them a new one and trade?

(But don't take my word for it, all I know about that plan I learned in this thread :) )
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on December 24, 2020, 01:37:57 PM
Ok this has probably been discussed in here somewhere but I cant find it and dont want to go through 70 pages right now.

These are the only 4g options right now??
I currently have a Go flip 3 and HATE it. I have had very bad experience with the alcatel phones, cheaply built, lots of lag and just overall not a great phone.

I have yet to own the Schok, although I keep on considering trying it out. I'm assuming that it wasn't so great based off the fact that the price dropped in half since it came out.
(Then again thats normal with phones, although it doesnt seem to be that way in the flip phone market. In addition I noticed that theres no gen.2 that has come out since.) if anybody has had any experience with this phone I would love to hear more about it!

If you currently have the go flip 3 then the Schok is AMAZING! If you had or have any other phone then it's just mediocre. it's OK in the beginning but slowly starts to breakdown overtime...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: TzviR on December 24, 2020, 02:38:51 PM
If you currently have the go flip 3 then the Schok is AMAZING! If you had or have any other phone then it's just mediocre. it's OK in the beginning but slowly starts to breakdown overtime...
LOL :'(
I have the Go Flip 3 right now, only as a temporary solution until I work something else out.(seems like the options aren't too great  :'( ) I have owned a few of the Alcatel Flip phones but never for more than a week or so just because they were so horrible.

The Schok doesn't seem like such a bad option especially since the price has gone down significantly and can now be bought for $30-50. Does anybody have any information on how much it costs to kosher the Schok?

Also, is your Schok Koshered or just regular? not true by all phones, but on some phones the experience can be totally different after koshered.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 24, 2020, 02:43:26 PM
Does anybody have any information on how much it costs to kosher the Schok?
$35 at tag
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on December 25, 2020, 01:01:10 AM
Ok so the Schok is now with the newest update, possible to just lock the browser from within the settings (very unsecure but may be ok for a temporary fix), and also I heard, pls correct if I am wrong, that TAG Lakewood does it for $15.

Also in my experience even not filtered Schok phones had issues. Additionally, many issues were hardware related (front screen dying, buttons etc) so you can hardly blame TAG for that.

Just curious, where can you buy it for $30? I see it on some sites for $80, (down from$100) And as far as I heard, some stores in Boro Park were selling it for $100++...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shabbosabba on December 25, 2020, 01:40:39 AM
Ok so the Schok is now with the newest update, possible to just lock the browser from within the settings (very unsecure but may be ok for a temporary fix), and also I heard, pls correct if I am wrong, that TAG Lakewood does it for $15.

Also in my experience even not filtered Schok phones had issues. Additionally, many issues were hardware related (front screen dying, buttons etc) so you can hardly blame TAG for that.

Just curious, where can you buy it for $30? I see it on some sites for $80, (down from$100) And as far as I heard, some stores in Boro Park were selling it for $100++...

I just bought one on ebay this week for just under 40. Brand new. You are 100% right, I've seen ads for stores in Boro Park for as much as 180, and that might be before kashering.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: presidentialplus on December 25, 2020, 09:07:42 AM
What are the current options for a Verizon flip phone that has message+?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 26, 2020, 07:46:30 PM
What are the current options for a Verizon flip phone that has message+?
Using with what carrier?

Ok this has probably been discussed in here somewhere but I cant find it and dont want to go through 70 pages right now.

These are the only 4g options right now??
I currently have a Go flip 3 and HATE it. I have had very bad experience with the alcatel phones, cheaply built, lots of lag and just overall not a great phone.

I have yet to own the Schok, although I keep on considering trying it out. I'm assuming that it wasn't so great based off the fact that the price dropped in half since it came out.
(Then again thats normal with phones, although it doesnt seem to be that way in the flip phone market. In addition I noticed that theres no gen.2 that has come out since.) if anybody has had any experience with this phone I would love to hear more about it!

Based on the wiki I am assuming that there's no Kyocera that can be used 4g with T-Mobile.

I would love to move to a Verizon plan but I'm currently stuck with T-Mobile and cant change.

is there any good options for T-Mobile or is it similar to sprint, just you're actually paying for a decent plan and there's still no phones??

I'm assuming that a locked family mobile phone cant be used with T-Mobile, otherwise I would give the Family Mobile Classic Flip a try. If I'm wrong about this please let me know.

if anybody has any insight on this for me I would love for some help. TIA

  Tried those both and Neither seemed to work.
With the Kyocera Cadence I tried using with T-mobile the reception was horrific I had no cells, could be in the area I was trying it was not the best, I'll definitely try it again.
  I know people that were using it on Sprint only had 3 G while T mobile supposedly only works with 2G with that phone.

And in regards to the T mobile Walmart version phone, it only seems to work with trac phone service and it sister companies, it would not accept the SIM from T mobile directly. Still trying to look for an unlock code or someone that can unlock it for me even though Kosher Celluar says that its impossible.

 
If I understand correctly, the WM Family Mobile TMobile LG Classic phone because unlocked after 1 year, so if you know someone who bought one a year ago, maybe you can by them a new one and trade?

(But don't take my word for it, all I know about that plan I learned in this thread :) )

 Indeed the only way to be able to use that device would be to find someone who used it for a year and doesn't care to continue using their phone with the carrier and not looking to switch to T-Mobile or Verizon directly.

   Though I'm curious to know if the CDMA version of LG classic would work on T mobile? Or only a Walmart Version?
  What I don't understand is why would LG come out with a decent phone and lock it with only one carrier? its like apple coming out with a phone locking it to TracFone or only T-Mobile and etc.
  I know the FCC went hard on the companies that lock their phones, so they all made terms to be met in order to be eligible for an unlock, while they're all willing to unlock the phones after a certain time frame.
   
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: presidentialplus on December 26, 2020, 07:48:24 PM
Is there any other carrier besides for Verizon that has message+?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 26, 2020, 07:51:44 PM
Is there any other carrier besides for Verizon that has message+?
This?

 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs&hl=en_US&gl=US
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: presidentialplus on December 26, 2020, 07:52:43 PM
This?

 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs&hl=en_US&gl=US
For a flip phone?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 26, 2020, 07:54:22 PM
For a flip phone?
Then an apk would have to do, but not familiar with how to download the apks and bluetooth them over and all.
 So will allow for others to respond.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yungermanchik on December 26, 2020, 07:58:21 PM
There was an ad in this weeks Yated for a free flip phone from Xchange Telecom with 1yr of service ($20 a month plan) until 12/31
https://www.xchangetele.com/homeconnex/home/mobileservices or call/text 718-663-0800 Mention Ad in application
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on December 26, 2020, 08:55:19 PM
Then an apk would have to do, but not familiar with how to download the apks and bluetooth them over and all.
 So will allow for others to respond.
Dont think its really possible to add a full functioning message+ app to any of the flip phones that don't come with it built-in. So really the answer would be no flip phone that I know of, except the not current, hard to find ones. Just buy the Kyocera Cadence


   Though I'm curious to know if the CDMA version of LG classic would work on T mobile? Or only a Walmart Version?
  What I don't understand is why would LG come out with a decent phone and lock it with only one carrier? its like apple coming out with a phone locking it to TracFone or only T-Mobile and etc.
  I know the FCC went hard on the companies that lock their phones, so they all made terms to be met in order to be eligible for an unlock, while they're all willing to unlock the phones after a certain time frame.
 
What you have to think is if any of the Carriers want it. It definitely seems like Verizon, who was originally at the forefront of this whole thing, decided that they rather make the $$ themselves and produce their own (garbage) hardware. Other carriers have always been behind and think that their customers will stick with them either way. I would imagine that LG charges a bunch more $$ for this phone than Alcatel and all that other garbage. (Tracfone is probably betting on their 1yr contract and impossible to unlock policy to make up the difference, and the fact that most customers will stay after the 1yr...)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 26, 2020, 09:12:14 PM
Using with what carrier?

  Tried those both and Neither seemed to work.
With the Kyocera Cadence I tried using with T-mobile the reception was horrific I had no cells, could be in the area I was trying it was not the best, I'll definitely try it again.
  I know people that were using it on Sprint only had 3 G while T mobile supposedly only works with 2G with that phone.

And in regards to the T mobile Walmart version phone, it only seems to work with trac phone service and it sister companies, it would not accept the SIM from T mobile directly. Still trying to look for an unlock code or someone that can unlock it for me even though Kosher Celluar says that its impossible.

   
 Indeed the only way to be able to use that device would be to find someone who used it for a year and doesn't care to continue using their phone with the carrier and not looking to switch to T-Mobile or Verizon directly.

   Though I'm curious to know if the CDMA version of LG classic would work on T mobile? Or only a Walmart Version?
  What I don't understand is why would LG come out with a decent phone and lock it with only one carrier? its like apple coming out with a phone locking it to TracFone or only T-Mobile and etc.
  I know the FCC went hard on the companies that lock their phones, so they all made terms to be met in order to be eligible for an unlock, while they're all willing to unlock the phones after a certain time frame.
 

It's not 100% impossible its 10000% impossible to get an unlock code for ANY Tracfone and unlock the device. As far as an LG Wine 2 for T-Mobile, Verizon, or AT&T I do have 1 that works.  :P
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 26, 2020, 09:13:32 PM
I don't know anything about it (so for all I know it's a scam), but when I put my verizon LG Classic's IMEI into https://www.imei.info/, there was an option to purchase an unlock code.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 26, 2020, 09:20:58 PM
I don't know anything about it (so for all I know it's a scam), but when I put my verizon LG Classic's IMEI into https://www.imei.info/, there was an option to purchase an unlock code.
If you do read a little further it asks you to input certain numbers into the phone to get to unlock screen but there is no such option on the lg classic.
 I tried that.

 Seems you need an unlock key like all other devices which they plug into your computer and they manually unlock it.
Unless there's numbers that I'm not familiar with to pull up the unlock screen.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 26, 2020, 09:21:10 PM
I don't know anything about it (so for all I know it's a scam), but when I put my verizon LG Classic's IMEI into https://www.imei.info/, there was an option to purchase an unlock code.
It does say clearly do not purchase this if you can't pull up the unlock screen.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 26, 2020, 09:22:51 PM
As I said, "I don't know anything about it" :)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 26, 2020, 09:23:57 PM
It's not 100% impossible its 10000% impossible to get an unlock code for ANY Tracfone and unlock the device. As far as an LG Wine 2 for T-Mobile, Verizon, or AT&T I do have 1 that works. 
I hear you, I definitely agree.
 Tried many different options all came back I'm sorry this device doesn't work.
   
   just curious what is the procedure when they go ahead and unlock it after a year?

Do they unlock it manually on their end or do they input a code? or do they have you connected to your computer?

 Totally not familiar with the LG wine 2 but will take a look right now.
 
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 26, 2020, 09:24:33 PM
As I said, "I don't know anything about it" :)
Will let it pass.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: yungermanchik on December 26, 2020, 09:27:30 PM
There was an ad in this weeks Yated for a free flip phone from Xchange Telecom with 1yr of service ($20 a month plan) until 12/31
https://www.xchangetele.com/homeconnex/home/mobileservices or call/text 718-663-0800 Mention Ad in application
The Ad says LG Classic or similar.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 26, 2020, 09:27:33 PM
It's not 100% impossible its 10000% impossible to get an unlock code for ANY Tracfone and unlock the device. As far as an LG Wine 2 for T-Mobile, Verizon, or AT&T I do have 1 that works. 
It's so weird that I never came across the LG wine 2.
 
  Is there any difference between the wine two and the classic?
 
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on December 26, 2020, 11:11:27 PM
It's so weird that I never came across the LG wine 2.
 
  Is there any difference between the wine two and the classic?

It makes sense that you never came across it because it is only sold through US Cellular that doesn't sell in the Northeast US, so its pretty hard to get your hands on one. The wine 2 seems to be the same hardware with slightly different software.

It does say clearly do not purchase this if you can't pull up the unlock screen.

Same idea here.
https://www.unlockriver.com/index.php?_route_=lg&product_id=14717

It's not 100% impossible its 10000% impossible to get an unlock code for ANY Tracfone and unlock the device. As far as an LG Wine 2 for T-Mobile, Verizon, or AT&T I do have 1 that works.  :P

Can you help me out with that? I actually got my hands on the Wine 2 got it supposedly "unlocked" from US cellular, and the Unlock code, but didn't see anywhere to input a code and couldn't get it working well with any service at all...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 27, 2020, 12:52:09 AM
It makes sense that you never came across it because it is only sold through US Cellular that doesn't sell in the Northeast US, so its pretty hard to get your hands on one. The wine 2 seems to be the same hardware with slightly different software.

Same idea here.
https://www.unlockriver.com/index.php?_route_=lg&product_id=14717
 
Can you help me out with that? I actually got my hands on the Wine 2 got it supposedly "unlocked" from US cellular, and the Unlock code, but didn't see anywhere to input a code and couldn't get it working well with any service at all...

Mine works on all carriers.  ;)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 27, 2020, 01:16:19 AM
Mine works on all carriers.  ;)
Dual sim?

 4g with all?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 27, 2020, 01:16:09 PM
Dual sim?

 4g with all?

Dual sim? This phone does not have a dual sim slot... Not sure what phone you are talking about...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 27, 2020, 01:43:57 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/8cJs079q/LGKC.png) (https://postimg.cc/Fkv9fH9Z)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: presidentialplus on December 27, 2020, 09:34:07 PM
Mine works on all carriers.  ;)
Please be clear. You have a leg phone that could be activated with straight Verizon service?
Does it support Message+?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on December 27, 2020, 11:03:33 PM
Please be clear. You have a leg phone that could be activated with straight Verizon service?
Does it support Message+?
Activate all hardware supported bands via hidden menu and voila

Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on December 27, 2020, 11:13:30 PM
Activate all hardware supported bands via hidden menu and voila
Is that supposed to help for Message+?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on December 27, 2020, 11:17:15 PM
Is that supposed to help for Message+?
No, this is to make it work.
When you are talking about message plus please be clear what features you are talking about, AFAIK message plus as an app is simply A messaging app, if you're looking for the group messaging that is A Verizon network feature
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: TzviR on December 28, 2020, 11:01:49 AM

Just curious, where can you buy it for $30? I see it on some sites for $80, (down from$100) And as far as I heard, some stores in Boro Park were selling it for $100++...
If you look around on Ebay and other sites you can find it for 30-50 sometimes. I have even seen it in Target for 50- Brand New!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 28, 2020, 01:20:24 PM
Activate all hardware supported bands via hidden menu and voila

No not really...
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on December 28, 2020, 01:24:18 PM
No, this is to make it work.
When you are talking about message plus please be clear what features you are talking about, AFAIK message plus as an app is simply A messaging app, if you're looking for the group messaging that is A Verizon network feature
Ok yes that probably what people meant by that, and simply put you probably cant get it on any other phones. Can you be more specific on the how to enable other networks?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on December 28, 2020, 01:26:16 PM
If you look around on Ebay and other sites you can find it for 30-50 sometimes. I have even seen it in Target for 50- Brand New!
Wow. but that's probably because they are on clearance or something, because apparently they aren't selling it anymore. (dont see it on their website)

No not really...

Care to enlighten us?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 29, 2020, 06:07:45 PM
Message+ Anyone  ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/QC9R5BKX/activitymore-F050560-F-3315-4887-897-B-8-FE83-A895-AE1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XBWH6Ygh)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: talmid chuchem on December 30, 2020, 01:28:14 AM
Message+ Anyone  ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/QC9R5BKX/activitymore-F050560-F-3315-4887-897-B-8-FE83-A895-AE1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XBWH6Ygh)

When will we be able to buy it?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: cheapascanbe on December 30, 2020, 04:47:07 PM
Not sure if this was previously chatted about or if this is the correct forum. I have a smartphone but would like to have a flip phone when not at work. The flip phone should have call, text. Alternatively, I would have another smart phone fully filtered.

Without changing sim cards a few times a day. How can I have my calls and texts come through on both phones. I do want to have only 1 phone number.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 30, 2020, 06:43:28 PM
Not sure if this was previously chatted about or if this is the correct forum. I have a smartphone but would like to have a flip phone when not at work. The flip phone should have call, text. Alternatively, I would have another smart phone fully filtered.

Without changing sim cards a few times a day. How can I have my calls and texts come through on both phones. I do want to have only 1 phone number.
Maybe T-Mobile DIGITS (https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/t-mobile-digits)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yo ssi on December 30, 2020, 07:32:50 PM
Not sure if this was previously chatted about or if this is the correct forum. I have a smartphone but would like to have a flip phone when not at work. The flip phone should have call, text. Alternatively, I would have another smart phone fully filtered.

Without changing sim cards a few times a day. How can I have my calls and texts come through on both phones. I do want to have only 1 phone number.
Any smartwatch-like plan may work, or simply use GVoice
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on December 31, 2020, 02:54:31 PM
No not really...
(https://i.imgur.com/aq4XIp4.png)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 31, 2020, 04:08:20 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/aq4XIp4.png)

Bands in my device are open to any supported network
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on December 31, 2020, 04:22:41 PM
Bands in my device are open to any supported network
Your device is amazing, nobody could ever do what you did, you're super human I'm just showing what's going on behind the scenes of this phone

it has LTE bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,28,29,30,38,39,40,41,46,66,71
WCDMA 800,850,900,AWS,1900,2100
GSM 850,900,1800,1900

This phone was built to support virtually all NA networks (one notable band that's missing is LTE 26 used by sprint and its MVNOs)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: etech0 on December 31, 2020, 04:43:53 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/aq4XIp4.png)
which phone is that?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on December 31, 2020, 04:53:37 PM
which phone is that?

LG Wine2 US Cellular Version Model LM-Y120UM
https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-lmy120um0auclpl-us-cellular-wine-2
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on December 31, 2020, 08:11:57 PM
Your device is amazing, nobody could ever do what you did, you're super human I'm just showing what's going on behind the scenes of this phone

it has LTE bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,28,29,30,38,39,40,41,46,66,71
WCDMA 800,850,900,AWS,1900,2100
GSM 850,900,1800,1900

This phone was built to support virtually all NA networks (one notable band that's missing is LTE 26 used by sprint and its MVNOs)

Thank you for the kind words. This phone goes by the folder 2 and is sold all over the world.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on December 31, 2020, 11:38:11 PM
Your device is amazing, nobody could ever do what you did, you're super human I'm just showing what's going on behind the scenes of this phone

it has LTE bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,28,29,30,38,39,40,41,46,66,71
WCDMA 800,850,900,AWS,1900,2100
GSM 850,900,1800,1900

This phone was built to support virtually all NA networks (one notable band that's missing is LTE 26 used by sprint and its MVNOs)
The folder2 words on Verizon?
 What does it sell for? Or what you selling it for?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on January 01, 2021, 03:26:07 PM
The folder2 words on Verizon?
 What does it sell for? Or what you selling it for?
The folder 2 is an Asian version with Chinese buttons. Not sure you want it :-) . See https://droidchart.com/en/lg/lg-folder-2-lm-y120k-6588
Also, it's not available to buy in North America (in the future, maybe it will be available on eBay from oversea sellers..)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Yo ssi on January 01, 2021, 03:32:47 PM
Folder 2 (https://www.samsung.com/hk_en/smartphones/others/galaxy-folder2-red-16gb-sm-g1650wretgy/)? Say what? What a copied name!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 01, 2021, 03:36:27 PM
Folder 2 (https://www.samsung.com/hk_en/smartphones/others/galaxy-folder2-red-16gb-sm-g1650wretgy/)? Say what? What a copied name!
I thought that's what you guys are referring to.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on January 02, 2021, 02:26:48 PM
The folder 2 is an Asian version with Chinese buttons. Not sure you want it :-) . See https://droidchart.com/en/lg/lg-folder-2-lm-y120k-6588
Also, it's not available to buy in North America (in the future, maybe it will be available on eBay from oversea sellers..)

It's a worldwide phone sold in multiple countries. Its here already in the states as the Wine 2  and sold in 12 different variations of it is being used by over 10 cdma carriers here in the usa.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 02, 2021, 07:37:47 PM
It's a worldwide phone sold in multiple countries. Its here already in the states as the Wine 2  and sold in 12 different variations of it is being used by over 10 cdma carriers here in the usa.
So when are your phones being released?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on January 02, 2021, 07:42:31 PM
So when are your phones being released?

Soon. Need to fix issue with Verizon MMS.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 02, 2021, 07:44:21 PM
Soon. Need to fix issue with Verizon MMS.
Waiting patiently. Keep us posted.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Dansym on January 02, 2021, 08:22:50 PM
Your device is amazing, nobody could ever do what you did, you're super human I'm just showing what's going on behind the scenes of this phone

it has LTE bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,28,29,30,38,39,40,41,46,66,71
WCDMA 800,850,900,AWS,1900,2100
GSM 850,900,1800,1900

This phone was built to support virtually all NA networks (one notable band that's missing is LTE 26 used by sprint and its MVNOs)

Hi, how did you find all available bands?

FCC  lists only

4GL TE/VoL TE/Vi LTE
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS Band 2/4/5
CDMA: BCD/ BC1 / BC10
LTE: 2/4/5/12/13/17/25/ 26

https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/2ALZM-SC3218/4509112.pdf

I know that FCC certification does not cover non-US bands but how did you find all of them?

I am asking because I would like to send this phone to my father in law in Israel where US bands are irrelevant.


28[A&B)/ 30/ 41 I 66/71
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on January 02, 2021, 11:53:57 PM
Hi, how did you find all available bands?

FCC  lists only

4GL TE/VoL TE/Vi LTE
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS Band 2/4/5
CDMA: BCD/ BC1 / BC10
LTE: 2/4/5/12/13/17/25/ 26

https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/2ALZM-SC3218/4509112.pdf

I know that FCC certification does not cover non-US bands but how did you find all of them?

I am asking because I would like to send this phone to my father in law in Israel where US bands are irrelevant.


28[A&B)/ 30/ 41 I 66/71

The FCC info you provided is from the Schok Classic Flip https://www.schokgear.com, Not from the LG Wine 2.

However, you can find all the band's maintained above in the phone itself.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on January 03, 2021, 12:09:28 AM
It's a worldwide phone sold in multiple countries. Its here already in the states as the Wine 2  and sold in 12 different variations of it is being used by over 10 cdma carriers here in the usa.
The LG Folder 2 (https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/product/mobile/phone/productDetail.do?cateId=0230&prdId=EPRD.349839) is the Korean version of the LG Wine 2 (USC) / LG Classic Flip (TF).
Same as the LG Folder 1 (https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/product/mobile/phone/productDetail.do?cateId=0230&prdId=EPRD.323079) was the Korean version of the LG Exalt LTE.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on January 03, 2021, 12:55:23 PM
The LG Folder 2 (https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/product/mobile/phone/productDetail.do?cateId=0230&prdId=EPRD.349839) is the Korean version of the LG Wine 2 (USC) / LG Classic Flip (TF).
Same as the LG Folder 1 (https://www.lge.co.kr/lgekor/product/mobile/phone/productDetail.do?cateId=0230&prdId=EPRD.323079) was the Korean version of the LG Exalt LTE.

Correct. I was using the folder 2 back when it came out for my testing.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Dansym on January 03, 2021, 03:39:12 PM
The FCC info you provided is from the Schok Classic Flip https://www.schokgear.com, Not from the LG Wine 2.

However, you can find all the band's maintained above in the phone itself.

Thank you! But now I have another question: where can I find unlocked LG Wine 2? Tracfone's phones are not unlockable unless you are Tracfone's customer. Also, does unlocked LG Wine 2 support VoLTE of T-Mobile and Verizon?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shabbosabba on January 03, 2021, 07:34:24 PM
Anyone know how i can get my hands on a folder 1 for a reasonable price (if it is possible to get at all)? I have been looking for a decent phone at a good price for a while, and have come out almost emptyhanded.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on January 03, 2021, 10:13:34 PM
OK whatever it is, for the simplicity of the forum can we just stick to the USA names only please. Thank you  :)
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on January 04, 2021, 12:13:18 AM
Anyone know how i can get my hands on a folder 1 for a reasonable price (if it is possible to get at all)? I have been looking for a decent phone at a good price for a while, and have come out almost emptyhanded.
OK whatever it is, for the simplicity of the forum can we just stick to the USA names only please. Thank you  :)
And if someone needs info on a non-USA 'Folder 1', how should he name it?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on January 04, 2021, 09:39:39 AM
And if someone needs info on a non-USA 'Folder 1', how should he name it?
Exactly that. But lets stop calling the LG Classic the "LG folder 2" 'because thats what its really called in Korea"
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on January 04, 2021, 11:32:50 AM
Exactly that. But lets stop calling the LG Classic the "LG folder 2" 'because thats what its really called in Korea"
you are incorrect. The whole international market calls it that, including india and soon to be europe.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Alexsei on January 04, 2021, 12:46:49 PM
Can we use locked tracfone phone (LG classic) with Net10?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on January 04, 2021, 01:56:19 PM
you are incorrect. The whole international market calls it that, including india and soon to be europe.
Correct. They also use Metric, we don't. Most of us are in USA. We are not India & Europe
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on January 04, 2021, 02:08:21 PM
Can we use locked tracfone phone (LG classic) with Net10?

Yes
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on January 04, 2021, 06:09:55 PM
Exactly that. But lets stop calling the LG Classic the "LG folder 2" 'because thats what its really called in Korea"
No one is changing to call it 'folder 2' instead of 'LG Classic Flip'. 
@Kosher_Cellutions once mentioned 'folder 2' as a 'by-the-way'
Quote
Thank you for the kind words. This phone goes by the folder 2 and is sold all over the world.
and people were curious about it, so we explained what it is.
That's all.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on January 04, 2021, 06:20:54 PM
Waze with a cursor coming free next week.
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Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on January 05, 2021, 07:30:43 AM
Maybe T-Mobile DIGITS (https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/t-mobile-digits)
Currently working on this for the LG UN220. Having difficulty removing need for Play Services. Anyone have luck with this?

I know its unlikely, just putting this out there

🥺🙏
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: th0306 on January 05, 2021, 07:37:29 AM
Yes

How about US Mobile?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on January 05, 2021, 07:41:12 AM
It's a worldwide phone sold in multiple countries. Its here already in the states as the Wine 2  and sold in 12 different variations of it is being used by over 10 cdma carriers here in the usa.
Curiously enough it was sent to dozens of reviewers to test in April (y'all can search youtube), yet was never directly released in the US.
LG seemed to be very excited about the device.....

Also slight variations in button layout: Folder 2 has a voice command button, while the Classic puts it on the clear button and has speakerphone in its stead.

Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 05, 2021, 08:30:36 AM
Curiously enough it was sent to dozens of reviewers to test in April (y'all can search youtube), yet was never directly released in the US.
LG seemed to be very excited about the device.....

Also slight variations in button layout: Folder 2 has a voice command button, while the Classic puts it on the clear button and has speakerphone in its stead.
Any specific states that it ships to? Want to get a handful of these.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on January 05, 2021, 08:45:43 AM
Any specific states that it ships to? Want to get a handful of these.
The Folder 2? not so easily availible.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 05, 2021, 08:54:40 AM
The Folder 2? not so easily availible.
Even in the southern part of the us?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on January 05, 2021, 09:16:25 PM
How about US Mobile?
Won't work with US Mobile
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on January 07, 2021, 07:28:49 AM
Even in the southern part of the us?
Look at the small, regional carriers. They carry it as wine 2
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on January 08, 2021, 02:03:55 AM
Look at the small, regional carriers. They carry it as wine 2
Can you explain please?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on January 09, 2021, 11:48:46 PM
Where can I get the new LG Wine 2 LTE? I need a solid 4g flip phone to work with Verizon.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on January 10, 2021, 09:54:10 AM
Between the LG Exalt and the Kyocera Cadence, which one is better?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: how on January 10, 2021, 09:56:25 AM
Between the LG Exalt and the Kyocera Cadence, which one is better?
Cadence
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on January 10, 2021, 01:05:01 PM
Cadence
alright.. Got it on eBay for $225 brand new. Let's see how it goes... For me the main thing I liked it over the exalt is that it had a front screen
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: how on January 10, 2021, 01:10:18 PM
alright.. Got it on eBay for $225 brand new. Let's see how it goes... For me the main thing I liked it over the exalt is that it had a front screen
exalt breaks fast and does not have good options in-call
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: ilherman on January 10, 2021, 05:47:04 PM
What would be the easiest way to transfer contacts from my android to the Kyocera Cadence? Have Verizon if that matters.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: how on January 10, 2021, 05:49:08 PM
What would be the easiest way to transfer contacts from my android to the Kyocera Cadence? Have Verizon if that matters.
Bluetooth or sd card. Never did it from an android
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Flavored Seltzer on January 10, 2021, 06:09:39 PM
What would be the easiest way to transfer contacts from my android to the Kyocera Cadence? Have Verizon if that matters.
On the Android phone, if you have the Google contacts app (or even the phones built in contacts app), it should be very simple.
Just select any contact and then there should come up the option to select all contacts, do that. Then select the more options/share button and there should be a option called Bluetooth, select it. Then select your new phone to transfer to. On the new phone open the file (it might be found in the Bluetooth folder in the file explorer) and you should have all your contacts.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 11, 2021, 04:15:32 AM
What would be the easiest way to transfer contacts from my android to the Kyocera Cadence? Have Verizon if that matters.
Using your Google contacts export them as a Csv and then put on an card and pop into the cadence and click import.

 Or Bluetooth them.

exalt breaks fast and does not have good options in-call
True with the breakage, but it's a decent phone so worth repairing. Have had many devices fixed. If you have broken devices I can have it fixed for you.( The LG exalt).
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: how on January 11, 2021, 10:41:28 AM
  True with the breakage, but it's a decent phone so worth repairing. Have had many devices fixed. If you have broken devices I can have it fixed for you.( The LG exalt).
That would be good
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Lala101 on January 11, 2021, 02:36:53 PM
Ok! I got the lg wine 2 Lte locked to "US Cellular" what should I do next to use it for Verizon. Please give me instructions. Thanks.
Title: tello cheap flip phones or other phones
Post by: YY on January 12, 2021, 10:31:24 AM
Currently it looks like there are no cheap phones on tello and I searched and cannot find any Sprint CDMA phones which is required for tello.
anyone know where I can find one that will work there ?

My current phone on tello is not working.

alternately can you recommend another service with cheap flip phones ?
Title: Re: tello cheap flip phones or other phones
Post by: TzviR on January 12, 2021, 11:58:12 AM
Currently it looks like there are no cheap phones on tello and I searched and cannot find any Sprint CDMA phones which is required for tello.
anyone know where I can find one that will work there ?

My current phone on tello is not working.

alternately can you recommend another service with cheap flip phones ?
how much are you paying a month? Good2go mobile runs on at&t lines and is $10 a month for talk and text, no data. I'm sure there are other cheap plans but that's the one I personally have used.
When I was on tello I used a samsung array/m390 and loved it. I got mine for super cheap, not sure how much they are now, but you can look on ebay. I'm assuming you're looking for 3g, 4g options are very limited on CDMA.
Title: Re: tello cheap flip phones or other phones
Post by: davidd75 on January 12, 2021, 02:35:18 PM
Currently it looks like there are no cheap phones on tello and I searched and cannot find any Sprint CDMA phones which is required for tello.
anyone know where I can find one that will work there ?

My current phone on tello is not working.

alternately can you recommend another service with cheap flip phones ?

This I got from ebay works on Tello you may be able to get cheaper price
also Tag can filter these!


Alcatel Go Flip 4044T 4G LTE HD Voice FlipPhone for Sprint
Alcatel Go Flip 4044T 4G LTE HD Voice FlipPhone for Sprint       
Total: $53.30

Item ID: 154236578932
Seller: stalion_products
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Title: Re: tello cheap flip phones or other phones
Post by: TzviR on January 12, 2021, 07:02:00 PM
This I got from ebay works on Tello you may be able to get cheaper price
also Tag can filter these!


Alcatel Go Flip 4044T 4G LTE HD Voice FlipPhone for Sprint
Alcatel Go Flip 4044T 4G LTE HD Voice FlipPhone for Sprint       
Total: $53.30

Item ID: 154236578932
Seller: stalion_products
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Personal recommendation is to stay FAR away from Alcatel go flips if at all possible. The phone is overall just not a good phone. I personally hate them. If you are upgrading from a really old phone then it may be good for you but if you're switching from any half decent phone it will be worse than switching from First to basic economy.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on January 12, 2021, 08:12:59 PM
What would be the easiest way to transfer contacts from my android to the Kyocera Cadence? Have Verizon if that matters.
If you have Verizon postpaid, then Verizon Cloud App will do the job for you
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shabbosabba on January 12, 2021, 10:56:01 PM
Anyone know it there is a way to kasher the LG un220 (gsm model of the exalt) at home? I want to get one, but I can't go to get it kashered
Title: Re: tello cheap flip phones or other phones
Post by: myi on January 13, 2021, 02:02:52 AM
Personal recommendation is to stay FAR away from Alcatel go flips if at all possible. The phone is overall just not a good phone. I personally hate them. If you are upgrading from a really old phone then it may be good for you but if you're switching from any half decent phone it will be worse than switching from First to basic economy.
Well said.
  Get a classic flip Lg and find a plan for $20 or so.
 Or but from eBay for a $99. For a year.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 13, 2021, 02:37:55 AM
Anyone know it there is a way to kasher the LG un220 (gsm model of the exalt) at home? I want to get one, but I can't go to get it kashered
Reach out to https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=122405.msg2387755#msg2387755
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 13, 2021, 02:40:15 AM
For anyone using the Lg Classic flip and wants to call Canada, mexico and some other countries you can call for free by first dialing a 1800 number then the regular number.

 You can Google that number
 Or I can post it tomorrow. And all the locations

 Can add to the wiki of you like.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 13, 2021, 02:43:44 AM
Ok! I got the lg wine 2 Lte locked to "US Cellular" what should I do next to use it for Verizon. Please give me instructions. Thanks.
Where'd you manage to get one from? Would love to get my hands on one.

 Don't have the time to kill plugging in every zip code and trying to see what works.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: bznt on January 13, 2021, 04:02:20 AM
For anyone using the Lg Classic flip and wants to call Canada, mexico and some other countries you can call for free by first dialing a 1800 number then the regular number.

 You can Google that number
 Or I can post it tomorrow. And all the locations

 Can add to the wiki of you like.
Which Carrier are you referring to?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 13, 2021, 04:44:18 AM
Which Carrier are you referring to?
Any Carrier that currently works on the lg classic flip.

 Meaning , Tracfone, total wireless, straight talk and Net10.

 I only tried with Tracfone. Not familiar with the others if they allow or is there a 1800 to call.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: AsherO on January 13, 2021, 09:48:18 AM
For anyone using the Lg Classic flip and wants to call Canada, mexico and some other countries you can call for free by first dialing a 1800 number then the regular number.

 You can Google that number
 Or I can post it tomorrow. And all the locations

 Can add to the wiki of you like.

Why is this limited to flip phones?

Or do you mean that its a non-issue on a smartphone because you can just use an app?
Title: Re: tello cheap flip phones or other phones
Post by: davidd75 on January 13, 2021, 10:31:34 AM
Personal recommendation is to stay FAR away from Alcatel go flips if at all possible. The phone is overall just not a good phone. I personally hate them. If you are upgrading from a really old phone then it may be good for you but if you're switching from any half decent phone it will be worse than switching from First to basic economy.

maybe be all very true but if you are 1. want to use tello and  2. want to filter may be the only option.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: TzviR on January 13, 2021, 10:32:12 AM
Anyone know it there is a way to kasher the LG un220 (gsm model of the exalt) at home? I want to get one, but I can't go to get it kashered
check out https://www.apps4flip.com/ they have some DIY remedies for some phones
Title: Re: tello cheap flip phones or other phones
Post by: TzviR on January 13, 2021, 10:43:48 AM
maybe be all very true but if you are 1. want to use tello 4g and  2. want to filter may be the only option.
FTFY
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: best on January 13, 2021, 07:32:58 PM
I see some websites claiming to unlock the lg classic did anyone try it? Im wondering if its going to work on the walmart family version
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: how on January 13, 2021, 07:38:40 PM
For anyone using the Lg Classic flip and wants to call Canada, mexico and some other countries you can call for free by first dialing a 1800 number then the regular number.

 You can Google that number
 Or I can post it tomorrow. And all the locations

 Can add to the wiki of you like.
Any Carrier that currently works on the lg classic flip.

 Meaning , Tracfone, total wireless, straight talk and Net10.

 I only tried with Tracfone. Not familiar with the others if they allow or is there a 1800 to call.
selectel wireless lets you call Canada direct
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 13, 2021, 07:41:59 PM
selectel wireless lets you call Canada direct
Is that a Tracfone sister company?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: how on January 13, 2021, 08:10:24 PM
Is that a Tracfone sister company?
yes
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: elazarmn on January 15, 2021, 12:23:08 PM
If anyone is looking for used flip phone....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kyocera-Cadence-4G-LTE-HD-Voice-Basic-Flip-Phone-for-Verizon-Wireless-Blue-/154254953569

Lowest ive seen it
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on January 15, 2021, 02:02:58 PM
I see some websites claiming to unlock the lg classic did anyone try it? Im wondering if its going to work on the walmart family version
None work in my experience and many others
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Jojo202 on January 15, 2021, 02:05:20 PM
If anyone is looking for used flip phone....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kyocera-Cadence-4G-LTE-HD-Voice-Basic-Flip-Phone-for-Verizon-Wireless-Blue-/154254953569

Lowest ive seen it
Just note the item condition
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on January 17, 2021, 02:04:13 AM
Anyone know it there is a way to kasher the LG un220 (gsm model of the exalt) at home? I want to get one, but I can't go to get it kashered
Ask TAG.
I think Meshumer does it as well
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 17, 2021, 03:20:07 AM
If anyone is looking for used flip phone....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kyocera-Cadence-4G-LTE-HD-Voice-Basic-Flip-Phone-for-Verizon-Wireless-Blue-/154254953569

Lowest ive seen it
Great price.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shabbosabba on January 17, 2021, 06:19:22 AM
So I am see that my question was not as clear as I would've preferred. I read here that livigent made their filter for the LG exalt free. Is there anyone who knows of a way to put on the filter at home? I can't exactly start running to stores at the moment! :D
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on January 17, 2021, 01:44:28 PM
So I am see that my question was not as clear as I would've preferred. I read here that livigent made their filter for the LG exalt free. Is there anyone who knows of a way to put on the filter at home? I can't exactly start running to stores at the moment! :D
Ah, you want the Livigent one? Here ya go http://filterlg.com/ but @Kosher_Cellutions can probably do a better job. Call him.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on January 17, 2021, 01:51:55 PM
So I am see that my question was not as clear as I would've preferred. I read here that livigent made their filter for the LG exalt free. Is there anyone who knows of a way to put on the filter at home? I can't exactly start running to stores at the moment! :D

I can do it over the phone and you can customize the filter any way you like.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Danlover111 on January 18, 2021, 04:09:12 PM
If anyone is looking for used flip phone....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kyocera-Cadence-4G-LTE-HD-Voice-Basic-Flip-Phone-for-Verizon-Wireless-Blue-/154254953569

Lowest ive seen it
Does this work in israel with a hot sim? And USA with usmobile sim?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 18, 2021, 05:24:50 PM
Does this work in israel with a hot sim? And USA with usmobile sim?
Hot mobile? That's a gsm service.
 Let alone T-Mobile doesn't work here in the US. Works on 2g and at&t works with 3g if your lucky.
 I would not suggest this device.

 Look for the UN220 or something similar.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: eli1571 on January 18, 2021, 07:16:41 PM
maybe be all very true but if you are 1. want to use tello and  2. want to filter may be the only option.
what about alcatel go flip 3. its 4g, sold on tello's website now reduced to $75 ?
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on January 18, 2021, 08:52:31 PM
what about alcatel go flip 3. its 4g, sold on tello's website now reduced to $75 ?
Stay away from Alcatel phones
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 18, 2021, 11:03:42 PM
what about alcatel go flip 3. its 4g, sold on tello's website now reduced to $75 ?
Indeed. Garbage phones.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Danlover111 on January 19, 2021, 05:58:44 AM
Hot mobile? That's a gsm service.
 Let alone T-Mobile doesn't work here in the US. Works on 2g and at&t works with 3g if your lucky.
 I would not suggest this device.

 Look for the UN220 or something similar.
Hot mobile is a cell phone provider in Israel.
 Where can i get a UN220
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 19, 2021, 10:24:09 AM
Hot mobile is a cell phone provider in Israel.
 Where can i get a UN220
I just saw one on eBay for $119.
  But I think that's gone now.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Mikes@Micro on January 19, 2021, 02:03:22 PM
Does this work in israel with a hot sim? And USA with usmobile sim?
Many use it on Hot and Golan but you will not have 4g as they all use Band 3 - not supported by this phone or the UN220 so they would be the same in israel.
That said, they are prob better than any other israeli meushar phone, and VoLTE is not widespread בהארץ.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shabbosabba on January 19, 2021, 02:51:30 PM
The un220 can be bought for about 130 heavily used on eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-Wine-LTE-UN220-8GB-Silver-GSM-Unlocked-Cellular-Phone-003-/133399835505?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292 or in better condition for 160+ on eBay
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: eli1571 on January 19, 2021, 07:28:11 PM
Stay away from Alcatel phones
Indeed. Garbage phones.
for talk and text as well ? dont need it for browsing
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shabbosabba on January 19, 2021, 08:01:56 PM
Alcatel is the worst! I know of multiple different models. I have friends who only use talk and text. The problems range from either being slow when you text, incoherent phone conversations, to just overall cheap laggy phones. Some models scroll through the entire text conversation automatically when you click on it to bring you to the end. It's not a well thought out phone.
Just because you only use it for talk and text does not mean it will be any better.
Stay away!!!
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: TzviR on January 19, 2021, 08:11:02 PM
for talk and text as well? don't need it for browsing
YES! It's a bad phone for everything, even just talk and text. Unless you have no other option stay away.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: myi on January 20, 2021, 02:32:23 AM
for talk and text as well ? dont need it for browsing
I recently bought two Alcatel smart flips for two siblings.
  They've been complaining since day one that the phone is not clear, very slow, turns off on them.

To me it's a little odd that a company like Alcatel would spend so much money on some Chinese garbage.

if they're looking to spend money why not spend a few more bucks and make it a solid rugged phone.

 If you can find the LG classic Flip or the LG wine two or the exalt version that's unlocked or the Kyocera Cadence that would be your best option.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: Kosher_Cellutions on January 20, 2021, 12:38:53 PM
I recently bought two Alcatel smart flips for two siblings.
  They've been complaining since day one that the phone is not clear, very slow, turns off on them.

To me it's a little odd that a company like Alcatel would spend so much money on some Chinese garbage.

if they're looking to spend money why not spend a few more bucks and make it a solid rugged phone.

 If you can find the LG classic Flip or the LG wine two or the exalt version that's unlocked or the Kyocera Cadence that would be your best option.

Because they sell millions of handsets a month thats why....Those phones worldwide have been very successful for them.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: davidd75 on January 20, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
YES! It's a bad phone for everything, even just talk and text. Unless you have no other option stay away.

it might be only option if you want 4G, Tello and TAG filter
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: TzviR on January 20, 2021, 03:53:11 PM
it might be only option if you want 4G, Tello and TAG filter
there's a reason I left tello :(
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shabbosabba on January 20, 2021, 05:38:49 PM
Not sure if this helps anyone, but I spoke to tello today. Now with the T-Mobile Sprint merger, tello now offers GSM. So I wouldn't say that you're stuck to only garbage Alcatel phones. The only thing you need to keep in mind, is that the phone has to be VOLte compatible.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: shabbosabba on January 20, 2021, 05:51:17 PM
To me it's a little odd that a company like Alcatel would spend so much money on some Chinese garbage.

if they're looking to spend money why not spend a few more bucks and make it a solid rugged phone.

These phones run on a cheap OS which sells phenomenally in other cheap third world countries and therefore most people who buy these phones can't really afford an expensive phone. Hence the reason why they're buying this.  So basically, when you're buying an Alcatel you're buying cheap third world garbage.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: azforkosh on January 20, 2021, 09:36:08 PM
These phones run on a cheap OS which sells phenomenally in other cheap third world countries and therefore most people who buy these phones can't really afford an expensive phone. Hence the reason why they're buying this.  So basically, when you're buying an Alcatel you're buying cheap third world garbage.
That's true.
It runs on 'KaiOS' software (KaiOS is a tiny OS made for super low-end devices), which was rarely used in North America until the Alcatel 4G basic devices.
Title: Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
Post by: eli1571 on January 21, 2021, 08:34:06 AM
That's true.
It runs on 'KaiOS' software (KaiOS is a tiny OS made for super low-end devices), which was rarely used in North America until the Alcatel 4G basic devices.