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Title: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 05:53:26 PM
Apparently I violated some T&C and they just shut down without notice/explanation, any way to get it back open?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Alexsei on November 14, 2016, 06:11:59 PM
Apparently I violated some T&C and they just shut down without notice/explanation, any way to get it back open?
https://support.google.com/accounts/contact/disabled2
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 14, 2016, 06:12:12 PM
Which T&C?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 06:13:04 PM
Which T&C?
if I knew..
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: cubicles on November 14, 2016, 06:13:10 PM
googe voice?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 06:13:42 PM
https://support.google.com/accounts/contact/disabled2
that's what I got in the email informing me that it's disabled
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Alexsei on November 14, 2016, 06:18:56 PM
So did you fill the form?

Account suspension is usually due to:
Spamming
Mass emailing
Violating TOS on another google service such as uploading a YT video which is against TOS
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 06:21:41 PM
So did you fill the form?

Account suspension is usually due to:
Spamming
Mass emailing
Violating TOS on another google service such as uploading a YT video which is against TOS
yes I filled out the request,
Do they listen to the request,
I did non of thoes,
Unless there is a rule against having multiple accidents, as multiple accidents of mine got shut down (not my main one though)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Alexsei on November 14, 2016, 06:25:34 PM
Here is an interesting example of why they would suspend an account
Quote
My data was intact save for the last thing I’d worked on–a spreadsheet containing a client’s account numbers and passwords. It seems that Google’s engineers determined this single document violated policy and locked down my entire account. My request to get that document back is still pending.
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2013/04/life_without_google_when_my_account_was_suspended_i_felt_like_i_d_been_dumped.html
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: htg123 on November 14, 2016, 06:37:01 PM
Apparently I violated some T&C and they just shut down without notice/explanation, any way to get it back open?

did you order the pixel phone by any chance recently?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 14, 2016, 06:38:09 PM
Apparently I violated some T&C and they just shut down without notice/explanation, any way to get it back open?
They have been closing accounts today of people who ordered too many pixel phones
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 06:41:36 PM
did you order the pixel phone by any chance recently?
yes
They have been closing accounts today of people who ordered too many pixel phones
is that against the T&C??
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 14, 2016, 07:33:29 PM
yes is that against the T&C??
Yep I'm on the phone with Google and they told me I violated the t&c
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: googwallet on November 14, 2016, 07:33:45 PM
I am in the same boat, thankfully I didn't use my primary gmail account to order the phones but all my secondary accounts were suspended. A friend of mine had his primary account suspended. It really sucks. I'm hoping Google will reinstate the accounts..
No doubt from ordering many Google pixel phones..
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 14, 2016, 07:38:46 PM
I am in the same boat, thankfully I didn't use my primary gmail account to order the phones but all my secondary accounts were suspended. A friend of mine had his primary account suspended. It really sucks. I'm hoping Google will reinstate the accounts..
No doubt from ordering many Google pixel phones..
Same by me it's my secondary account. I'm currently on hold with Google to try and reinstate it
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: htg123 on November 14, 2016, 07:40:49 PM
Same by me it's my secondary account. I'm currently on hold with Google to try and reinstate it

what number did u call?
i found this 1-855 number but it's a scam...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 07:42:43 PM
Same by me it's my secondary account. I'm currently on hold with Google to try and reinstate it
keep us posted
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 14, 2016, 07:47:18 PM
Lesson learned is don't mess around with companies that you can't afford to pi** off.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 14, 2016, 07:49:21 PM
Lesson learned is don't mess around with companies that you can't afford to pi** off.
Or hide your tracks.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 14, 2016, 07:49:38 PM
I'm always paranoid about losing all my emails. I have multiple accounts with Google/live mail and yahoo. All my emails are forwarded to them so everything is backed up.

But I'd love to have a private server :)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 07:51:03 PM
Lesson learned is don't mess around with companies that you can't afford to pi** off.
no, the lesson is, mess around with them, but only use accounts that you can afford to lose  ;)😅
And I did not think I was doing anything wrong, as if I did, I would have done above
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 14, 2016, 07:57:57 PM
no, the lesson is, mess around with them, but only use accounts that you can afford to lose  ;)😅
And I did not think I was doing anything wrong, as if I did, I would have done above
Google isn't dumb.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 14, 2016, 07:59:21 PM
keep us posted
The csr is waiting to hear back from the specialist and she will give me a callback when she does. I'll keep you posted
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 14, 2016, 08:00:22 PM
what number did u call?
i found this 1-855 number but it's a scam...
1855 836 3987. I pushed 0 a few times until I got a csr
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 14, 2016, 08:01:44 PM
Google isn't dumb.
They should have canceled the orders not the account
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 14, 2016, 08:03:00 PM
They should have canceled the orders not the account
And AA should just cancel the award and not the account when they catch a sale?
What lesson would that show?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 08:03:37 PM
Google isn't dumb.
what do they gain now, they alredy shipped the phones,
And most ppl used non primary accounts, as if you have a Google voice number, you loose it..
It will probably be easier for me to open new accounts and update my email addresses, then fighting with them

Unless
The csr is waiting to hear back from the specialist and she will give me a callback when she does. I'll keep you posted
comes back with positive news
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: htg123 on November 14, 2016, 08:04:17 PM
1855 836 3987. I pushed 0 a few times until I got a csr

did you tell them that you ordered too many phones and apologize? or played dumb like you don't know what's going on?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 14, 2016, 08:05:01 PM
what do they gain now, they alredy shipped the phones,
Lesson to you and the internets: Don't $%^& with The Google.

Claim ignorance, apologize, and beg for mercy. Usually works once with AA.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 08:05:36 PM
And AA should just cancel the award and not the account when they catch a sale?
What lesson would that show?
they aren't upset that we bought phones, it's when we bought them..
So yes, canceling the orders does solve the problem that they had
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 08:06:52 PM
Lesson to you and the internets: Don't $%^& with The Google.

Claim ignorance, apologize, and beg for mercy. Usually works once with AA.
again, I didn't know I was doing anything wrong, honestly...
It's not like I opened accounts just for this

That's what I did, let's see
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 14, 2016, 08:11:30 PM
There are few companies like Google that you give so little info when registering account; yet they know so much about you.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on November 14, 2016, 08:26:20 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but what's the issue with the phones?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: gingyguy on November 14, 2016, 08:28:51 PM
i ordered 3 phones secondary account and was disabled
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 14, 2016, 08:30:27 PM
I used one primary (like super primary account) and one secondary (but just as important). I really really hope google will give me access back, feeling like such a n00b :/
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 08:32:03 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but what's the issue with the phones?
not Sure, just Thoes who had accounts shut down, also bought

i ordered 3 phones secondary account and was disabled
I really don't understand, they allowed 6 per account, don't know what we did wrong
Especially if you only bought 3...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 14, 2016, 08:36:16 PM
did you tell them that you ordered too many phones and apologize? or played dumb like you don't know what's going on?
I played dumb
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 08:38:01 PM
did you tell them that you ordered too many phones and apologize? or played dumb like you don't know what's going on?
why will you do the first,
And I still don't think we orderd to many phones...
The limit was 6 per account IIRC
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shidduch on November 14, 2016, 08:47:35 PM
What number do you call to reach someone
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on November 14, 2016, 08:48:22 PM
What number do you call to reach someone
1855 836 3987. I pushed 0 a few times until I got a csr
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: tmendy226 on November 14, 2016, 08:48:38 PM
1855 836 3987. I pushed 0 a few times until I got a csr
0 a few times? doesn't work for me
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: gingyguy on November 14, 2016, 08:55:04 PM
can try pressing 1 for a rep. the one that i got was unable to help me . she said it could take 3-5 business days for the review... good thing i used the secondary account
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Yehuda25 on November 14, 2016, 09:10:08 PM
Wow wow, this is crazy. Did anyone thst ordered one have issues?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: gingyguy on November 14, 2016, 09:12:52 PM
whats the least anyone ordered? how about the most?
i ordered 3
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 14, 2016, 09:18:58 PM
Lesson learned is don't mess around with companies that you can't afford to pi** off.
+100
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: cubicles on November 14, 2016, 09:26:05 PM
Lesson to you and the internets: Don't $%^& with The Google.

Claim ignorance, apologize, and beg for mercy. Usually works once with AA.
I never succeeded with AA tried many times
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 14, 2016, 09:36:43 PM
Yup. Had one account shutdown. Didn't even know there was a limit.
Title: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: EJB on November 14, 2016, 09:43:11 PM
Were the items ordered to personal or business addresses? Did a reseller send an info email to (*gasp*) your gmail?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 14, 2016, 10:03:17 PM
Yup. Had one account shutdown. Didn't even know there was a limit.
Anyone have a link to Google's official limits?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 14, 2016, 10:05:40 PM
Anyone got any lawyers on the case?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 10:28:02 PM
We're the items ordered to personal or business addresses? Did a reseller send an info email to *gasp* your gmail?
I missed your question
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shidduch on November 14, 2016, 11:01:32 PM


thanks
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 11:05:03 PM
Wow wow, this is crazy. Did anyone thst ordered one have issues?
did anyone order personally, and have issues?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 14, 2016, 11:08:36 PM
whats the least anyone ordered? how about the most?
i ordered 3
should we add a poll😉
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: googwallet on November 15, 2016, 12:43:52 AM
whats the least anyone ordered? how about the most?
i ordered 3
I ordered 25. All 4 accounts were suspended. Waiting to hear other people's outcome before I spend time on this.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 15, 2016, 12:44:27 AM
We all shipped to the same place.
That exceeded the order limit.
We have to come up with some way to explain it.


Much used secondary account and a junk account closed.
So far I begged via email for the account I use frequently.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 15, 2016, 12:47:22 AM
Can someone please find a T&C somewhere, stating what exactly we violated,?
As I don't think such exists
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 15, 2016, 12:53:17 AM
I don't understand Google's actions here, if you don't want to ship the phones then fine, but once it's done, how does it help anybody to shut down people's accounts? If they want to deter people from doing it next time there are ways to do that without completely screwing people over. I think someone messed up big time here.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 15, 2016, 01:15:47 AM
I don't understand Google's actions here, if you don't want to ship the phones then fine, but once it's done, how does it help anybody to shut down people's accounts? If they want to deter people from doing it next time there are ways to do that without completely screwing people over. I think someone messed up big time here.
But how do we politely convince google of that?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 15, 2016, 01:16:36 AM
But how do we politely convince google of that?
You don't, you wait until it gets in the news and then someone from up top says to give everyone their accounts back.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 15, 2016, 01:18:17 AM
You don't, you wait until it gets in the news and then someone from up top says to give everyone their accounts back.
How do we get it there?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 15, 2016, 01:18:38 AM
You don't, you wait until it gets in the news and then someone from up top says to give everyone their accounts back.

I keep googling this issue and no one else is posting about it on the web :(. Ah I really need my account(s) back
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 15, 2016, 01:23:28 AM
Anyone try twitter?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 15, 2016, 01:23:47 AM
I keep googling this issue and no one else is posting about it on the web :(. Ah I really need my account(s) back
official example of a company targeting DDFers, what a bunch of racists
How do we get it there?
If it's really this isolated then it may not make it, we'll have to see if reports come in from more places. If nothing changes I would say write/call/email some higher level people and see what they can do.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 15, 2016, 01:27:26 AM
It's not isolated, anyone who bought phones (for the resellers at least) had the accounts shut
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 15, 2016, 01:44:38 AM
It's not isolated, anyone who bought phones (for the resellers at least) had the accounts shut
What percentage of phones was that?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 15, 2016, 01:49:49 AM
http://ceodetails.com/172-Larry-Page.html
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 15, 2016, 01:52:52 AM
http://www.headquartersinfo.com/google-headquarters-information/
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: googwallet on November 15, 2016, 06:26:03 AM
I am hopeful that Google will reinstate the accounts. But looking online, it seems that are in no rush to do an account review and it can take up to 5 business days.

I think in this case, I wasn't so much the number of phones ordered, rather the shipping address was flagged. I don't have anything to back this, but it's my feeling.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: schneury on November 15, 2016, 08:19:53 AM
I placed 2 orders of 5 phones each, they closed the main account from each set of 5. Is that what happened to everyone else?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Chevreman on November 15, 2016, 08:37:59 AM
I placed 2 orders of 5 phones each, they closed the main account from each set of 5. Is that what happened to everyone else?


Yes. They closed all the primary accounts used to order the phones, but left secondary accounts open.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Name Changed on November 15, 2016, 09:25:04 AM
I'm always paranoid about losing all my emails. I have multiple accounts with Google/live mail and yahoo. All my emails are forwarded to them so everything is backed up.

But I'd love to have a private server :)

Checkout mailinabox.email

Fairly simple email server to setup.

You will need to purchase a hosted VPS.

You could get for $5 a month from vultr.com

Once server is setup you counderstand have as many email accounts as you want.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Avihock on November 15, 2016, 09:43:52 AM
Unfortunately I'm in the same boat , I ordered 5 google pixel phones and now they shut my account , has anybody have a number I can call or anything of the sort
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 15, 2016, 10:37:56 AM
1855 836 3987. I pushed 0 a few times until I got a csr
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 15, 2016, 10:56:01 AM

Has anyone seen success with that route?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shidduch on November 15, 2016, 11:05:52 AM
I tried calling that number twice pressed 0 numerous times and got a rep and both reps said the same thing, that they cant help with gmail accounts and that it must be done via email.  Any other numbers to try?

thanks
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 15, 2016, 11:11:39 AM
I tried calling that number twice pressed 0 numerous times and got a rep and both reps said the same thing, that they cant help with gmail accounts and that it must be done via email.  Any other numbers to try?

thanks
+1 apparently they are only support for Google play and there isn't any Gmail reps
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Zalc on November 15, 2016, 11:26:47 AM
Lesson learned is don't mess around with companies that you can't afford to pi** off.
Also known as "Don't S#!t  where you eat"

For all those slightly paranoid people here, you can backup all your Google info here: Google.com/takeout (http://Google.com/takeout)

If you were shutdown, maybe try asking at least for access to that page so you can get your data back.

Come to think of it, people don't usually "back up" stuff that is in the cloud, because the cloud doesn't fail... This is a bitter reminder that it's never really safe unless your have a copy as well.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 15, 2016, 11:36:05 AM
is it just email or is the entire google account blocked?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 15, 2016, 11:38:00 AM
is it just email or is the entire google account blocked?
entire account
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 15, 2016, 11:42:31 AM
+1 apparently they are only support for Google play and there isn't any Gmail reps
So tell them to unlock you google play account!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 15, 2016, 12:13:28 PM
So tell them to unlock you google play account!
In fact, that's why the accounts were closed - abuse in purchasing Google play phones.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 15, 2016, 12:16:52 PM
In fact, that's why the accounts were closed - abuse in purchasing Google play phones.
please tell me what was abused exactly, we are convincing ourselves that we did something wrong
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 15, 2016, 12:26:27 PM
please tell me what was abused exactly, we are convincing ourselves that we did something wrong
Are you being thick?
Everyone shipped the phones to one place. Of course they're going to investigate what's going on!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: dealfinder85 on November 15, 2016, 12:28:14 PM
was there some very good deal going on? why did ppl order so many?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 15, 2016, 12:35:56 PM
Are you being thick?
Everyone shipped the phones to one place. Of course they're going to investigate what's going on!
if Google would not have taken the action that they did,
And In 5 months time, we would have a discussion if we violated any T&C, I honestly don't think the overall opinion will be that we did,
Am I allowed to buy the max amount of phones they allow me to? Even if I re sell it?
So just because we all sent it to NH, cuz it's cheaper, does not make that a violation of T&C, unless they specifically stated shipping address limitations,
Which last I checked, there is no public T&C regarding this, it's just what the system was set up for
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 15, 2016, 12:45:10 PM
if Google would not have taken the action that they did,
And In 5 months time, we would have a discussion if we violated any T&C, I honestly don't think the overall opinion will be that we did,
Am I allowed to buy the max amount of phones they allow me to? Even if I re sell it?
So just because we all sent it to NH, cuz it's cheaper, does not make that a violation of T&C, unless they specifically stated shipping address limitations,
Which last I checked, there is no public T&C regarding this, it's just what the system was set up for
Did you read the full T&C?

They aren't a court, there is no innocent until proven guilty, if they suspect fraud they can act on it.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 15, 2016, 12:47:50 PM
Did you read the full T&C?

no, as the arnt any
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 15, 2016, 12:49:58 PM
no, as the arnt any
Wow, really?


How about the terms you agreed to when you bought the phones specifically "You may only purchase Devices for your personal use." https://store.google.com/intl/en-US_us/about/device-terms.html

@JTZ have any crow left for this guy?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 15, 2016, 12:53:18 PM
Wow, really?


How about the terms you agreed to when you bought the phones specifically "You may only purchase Devices for your personal use." https://store.google.com/intl/en-US_us/about/device-terms.html
as per project fi (which is who we bought the phones from) said yesterday, via a chat conversation, that there are no public T&C as of last night
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 15, 2016, 12:55:53 PM
as per project fi (which is who we bought the phones from) said yesterday, via a chat conversation, that there are no public T&C as of last night
Lol, DROPR!!!

Terms say clearly "You may only purchase Devices for your personal use. You may not commercially resell any Device"

I sincerely wish the best of luck to all, but stop having your heads in the ground.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 15, 2016, 12:57:23 PM
as per project fi (which is who we bought the phones from) said yesterday, via a chat conversation, that there are no public T&C as of last night
DROPR

So you talked to a dumb rep, what's that have to do with agreeing to Google's terms of service when you buy their phones?

Look on the project fi homepage, under legal it says you agree to googles terms of service...

ETA: Project Fi terms of service also say it is only for personal use. Just look on their site.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 15, 2016, 01:48:27 PM
I did not chat, so not sure how the conversation went,
But when you ask for the T&C and they respond, that it's not public, I wouldn't think not to rely..
But I don't want to read it, cuz if I do, I can't pull ignorance ;)
Stam, I did not loose any important accounts (I'll just get less spam now ;) )
But I know someone who got scamed into paying a 'security company' to protect him, cuz this company told him he was hacked,
That's why I'm really bothered..
And 90% of the ppl who bought, had zero thoughts that they are doing something wrong..
I just hope it will work itself out
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 15, 2016, 02:03:24 PM
I was on the phone with google for an hour this morning. The rep was trying to figure out what was going on. She called many different departments, spoke to different people and now one had any answers. She sent me the disabled account form again and just advised that in "additional information" I add verifying information about me (dob, cc used, billing address, email password) and to see what happens. 

Honestly, if I lose my account it's not the end of the world, but I need to get my spouses primary account back! We have important information on google drive that we can't afford to lose. Yes, I'm an idiot for doing this, but sheesh :(
Title: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 15, 2016, 02:11:24 PM
I did not chat, so not sure how the conversation went,
But when you ask for the T&C and they respond, that it's not public, I wouldn't think not to rely..
But I don't want to read it, cuz if I do, I can't pull ignorance ;)
You can't plead ignorance anyways, it's not their fault if you clicked "I agree" without actually reading the T&C's.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 15, 2016, 02:15:09 PM
You can't plead ignorance anyways, it's not their fault if you clicked "I agree" without actually reading the T&C's.
lol lol
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 15, 2016, 02:16:00 PM
lol lol
I wasn't trying to be funny.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 15, 2016, 02:21:32 PM



Honestly, if I lose my account it's not the end of the world, but I need to get my spouses primary account back! We have important information on google drive that we can't afford to lose. Yes, I'm an idiot for doing this, but sheesh :(
If your drive account is also on a PC, stuff may be saved locally

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Zalc on November 15, 2016, 02:23:40 PM


Honestly, if I lose my account it's not the end of the world, but I need to get my spouses primary account back! We have important information on google drive that we can't afford to lose. Yes, I'm an idiot for doing this, but sheesh :(
Do you still have access to Google.com/takeout (http://Google.com/takeout)?

If not, can they let you access that at least?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Avihock on November 15, 2016, 03:09:08 PM
Lets cut to the chase with a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT, we will make this the biggest court case in history and end up making millions of google for Making up terms and conditions and linking it to our personal email accounts which have nothing to do with what we purchased in the first place ,
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 15, 2016, 03:13:00 PM
Anyone have success with tweeting google?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 15, 2016, 03:14:23 PM
Lets cut to the chase with a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT, we will make this the biggest court case in history and end up making millions of google for Making up terms and conditions and linking it to our personal email accounts which have nothing to do with what we purchased in the first place ,
Please stop, just stop.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 15, 2016, 03:20:19 PM
Lets cut to the chase with a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT, we will make this the biggest court case in history and end up making millions of google for Making up terms and conditions and linking it to our personal email accounts which have nothing to do with what we purchased in the first place ,
You're making a fool of yourself.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 15, 2016, 03:23:29 PM
Lets cut to the chase with a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT, we will make this the biggest court case in history and end up making millions of google for Making up terms and conditions and linking it to our personal email accounts which have nothing to do with what we purchased in the first place ,
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 15, 2016, 03:36:35 PM

Your expression through emoji is truly breathtaking. I wish I could be as poignant with so few keystrokes.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: googwallet on November 15, 2016, 03:52:52 PM


@JTZ have any crow left for this guy?
-1
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: cubicles on November 15, 2016, 04:14:02 PM
from:   accounts-support@google.com
to:   *********@gmail.com
date:   Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:17 PM
subject:   Your Google Voice Appeal Request
mailed-by:   cases-outbound-prod.bounces.google.com
signed-by:   google.com
Hello,

We have reviewed your request and have determined that your use of Google Voice is not in compliance with our Google Voice Policies.
However, we have decided to approve your appeal. In the future, please do not use Google Voice to send commercial or promotional messages to a large number of users, or to send messages in bulk, or your account may be suspended.

If you have any further questions, please consult the Google Voice Help Center.

Thanks,
Google Voice Support Team
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 15, 2016, 04:15:29 PM
from:   accounts-support@google.com
to:   *********@gmail.com
date:   Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:17 PM
subject:   Your Google Voice Appeal Request
mailed-by:   cases-outbound-prod.bounces.google.com
signed-by:   google.com
Hello,

We have reviewed your request and have determined that your use of Google Voice is not in compliance with our Google Voice Policies.
However, we have decided to approve your appeal. In the future, please do not use Google Voice to send commercial or promotional messages to a large number of users, or to send messages in bulk, or your account may be suspended.

If you have any further questions, please consult the Google Voice Help Center.

Thanks,
Google Voice Support Team
What were you doing?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 15, 2016, 04:16:17 PM
from:   accounts-support@google.com
to:   *********@gmail.com
date:   Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:17 PM
subject:   Your Google Voice Appeal Request
mailed-by:   cases-outbound-prod.bounces.google.com
signed-by:   google.com
Hello,

We have reviewed your request and have determined that your use of Google Voice is not in compliance with our Google Voice Policies.
However, we have decided to approve your appeal. In the future, please do not use Google Voice to send commercial or promotional messages to a large number of users, or to send messages in bulk, or your account may be suspended.

If you have any further questions, please consult the Google Voice Help Center.

Thanks,
Google Voice Support Team
What did you write to them?
Ahh, you're not part of our shut-down.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: cubicles on November 15, 2016, 04:19:07 PM
What were you doing?
group messages
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 15, 2016, 04:28:35 PM
from:   accounts-support@google.com
to:   *********@gmail.com
date:   Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:17 PM
subject:   Your Google Voice Appeal Request
mailed-by:   cases-outbound-prod.bounces.google.com
signed-by:   google.com
Hello,

We have reviewed your request and have determined that your use of Google Voice is not in compliance with our Google Voice Policies.
However, we have decided to approve your appeal. In the future, please do not use Google Voice to send commercial or promotional messages to a large number of users, or to send messages in bulk, or your account may be suspended.

If you have any further questions, please consult the Google Voice Help Center.

Thanks,
Google Voice Support Team
Did they disable your email or just Google voice?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: cubicles on November 15, 2016, 04:32:46 PM
Did they disable your email or just Google voice?
just google voice
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: googwallet on November 15, 2016, 05:20:19 PM
just google voice
Ok so no data point there.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shidduch on November 15, 2016, 06:52:53 PM
Lets all post how long it takes for them to "review" whats going on.  Hopefully, big old google will have some rachmanus.

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 15, 2016, 06:55:03 PM
-1
So the T&C linked to are wrong?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: googwallet on November 15, 2016, 07:15:12 PM
So the T&C linked to are wrong?
No, your "us vs. them" attitude is uncalled for.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 16, 2016, 12:37:35 AM
Has anyone else received this e-mail after filling out the disable form (that they e-mailed)?

    
Hello Google user,

We understand you've recently been unable to access your Google account, and we appreciate you contacting us.

After review, your account is not eligible to be reinstated due to a violation of our Terms of Service.

Why was my account suspended?

We recommend viewing the our Google Terms of Service and product-specific policies to better understand what specific actions may have caused the violation.

If you have reviewed our policies and still believe your account has not violated them, please reply with any additional information that may be useful to process this request.

Best,

The Google Accounts Team

 
 
 
You received this message because someone provided this as the contact email address for an appeal. If you did not submit an appeal, you may disregard this message.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shidduch on November 16, 2016, 12:40:19 AM
That is the standard response.  I replied to that email and just said, I dont know what the issue is can you please unlock me.


Has anyone else received this e-mail after filling out the disable form (that they e-mailed)?

    
Hello Google user,

We understand you've recently been unable to access your Google account, and we appreciate you contacting us.

After review, your account is not eligible to be reinstated due to a violation of our Terms of Service.

Why was my account suspended?

We recommend viewing the our Google Terms of Service and product-specific policies to better understand what specific actions may have caused the violation.

If you have reviewed our policies and still believe your account has not violated them, please reply with any additional information that may be useful to process this request.

Best,

The Google Accounts Team

 
 
 
You received this message because someone provided this as the contact email address for an appeal. If you did not submit an appeal, you may disregard this message.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 12:40:39 AM
yes. Reply. I was contrite. I pleaded.
I hear it takes days to weeks to get an answer.
I sent more than one email over the last 2 days.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 16, 2016, 12:43:39 AM
I got this response from my e-mail, my spouse's e-mail hasn't received any such response yet. Are people calling them, e-mailing, tweeting? Lol, I can't stand this waiting period!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 11:54:41 AM
Wow, not only are they "disabled," the accounts are bouncing back emails, so if/when you get back in, you won't know what emails you missed.

I'm biased, of course, but the punishment (given what's potentially at stake with the loss of an email address) is a bit draconian. I can't see a judge sitting in equity allowing this to stand.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 12:02:06 PM
Wow, not only are they "disabled," the accounts are bouncing back emails, so if/when you get back in, you won't know what emails you missed.

I'm biased, of course, but the punishment (given what's potentially at stake with the loss of an email address) is a bit draconian. I can't see a judge sitting in equity allowing this to stand.
I feel for you guys and it is heavy handed, but is it different than violating AAs terms?
Clearly they're making a statement.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 12:13:14 PM
While it may not be different in a technical sense, I'd submit it's different in spirit. When one brokers AA miles, he or she knows that's running afoul of AA terms, even if they don't know precisely what they are. In this case, I know many people who ordered phones who didn't know that buying them in the manner they did was a violation of the terms. I certainly did not, and I would have never done it had I known. Sure, one is charged with knowing the T&C's they agree to, but in all reality, it's just not a practical expectation.


Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 12:14:08 PM
While it may not be different in a technical sense, I'd submit it's different in spirit. When one brokers AA miles, he or she knows that's running afoul of AA terms, even if they don't know precisely what they are. In this case, I know many people who ordered phones who didn't know that buying them in the manner they did was a violation of the terms. I certainly did not, and I would have never done it had I known. Sure, one is charged with knowing the T&C's they agree to, but in all reality, it's just not a practical expectation.
I think that's why it's likely they will relent, especially if you EECB Google.
But still, you clicked OK to terms that were clearly violated.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 12:16:12 PM
Again, to be clear, I'm not arguing there was no breach, I'm arguing the punishment doesn't fit the crime. Suspension from Google Fi? Maybe. Cancelling phone orders? Sure. Suspension of entire email account? Not quite.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 12:18:52 PM
Again, to be clear, I'm not arguing there was no breach, I'm arguing the punishment doesn't fit the crime. Suspension from Google Fi? Maybe. Cancelling phone orders? Sure. Suspension of entire email account? Not quite.
+100%
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 12:48:24 PM
While it may not be different in a technical sense, I'd submit it's different in spirit. When one brokers AA miles, he or she knows that's running afoul of AA terms, even if they don't know precisely what they are. In this case, I know many people who ordered phones who didn't know that buying them in the manner they did was a violation of the terms. I certainly did not, and I would have never done it had I known. Sure, one is charged with knowing the T&C's they agree to, but in all reality, it's just not a practical expectation.



Please blame this on the phone brokers. I had a dozen brokers reach out to me for iPhone resales and eventually turned them all down a few years in a row, losing a ton of cash each time, all for the reason that I read Apple T&C and saw it was prohibited and when done on such a mass scale even if they didn't do anything before they might and are entitled to make an exception if the wanted to.

I would go one step further and say you can't look at google punishing you for breaking the T&C, sure banning someone from Gmail a little crazy for breaking the T&C of buying phones, but imagine 1,000 people joining together and changing the entire distribution network of their top of the line phone.

For example they make ad money from people having these phones and using them in the US, all of this is taken into account for their profits from production etc. And people joining together and shipping them out of country goes against those predicted metrics.

I don't mean to put anyone here down, and I probably would do the same thing and buy knowing there are risks and I'd be beyond mortified if I lost my Gmail, but I wouldn't think I have a right to sue or that Google did something illegal.

I hope they reinstate the accounts soon.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 16, 2016, 12:55:13 PM
I don't mean to put anyone here down, and I probably would do the same thing and buy knowing there are risks and I'd be beyond mortified if I lost my Gmail, but I wouldn't think I have a right to sue or that Google did something illegal.

I hope they reinstate the accounts soon.
I don't think anybody is under the impression that Google did something illegal, just that the punishment was a little overboard for what they did. Losing a Gmail account that you've had for many years is a very difficult thing to repair especially for people here who have many accounts across many different programs.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 01:01:33 PM
I don't think anybody is under the impression that Google did something illegal, just that the punishment was a little overboard for what they did. Losing a Gmail account that you've had for many years is a very difficult thing to repair especially for people here who have many accounts across many different programs.
I agree, if someone lost their business account it can easily add up to crazy amounts of $$ lost, or family pictures lost online is the modern day house fire. It's scary how much power we give these companies.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 16, 2016, 01:06:11 PM
I feel for you guys and it is heavy handed, but is it different than violating AAs terms?
Clearly they're making a statement.
There's 2 points here.

A. Rights. When you click on the agree button, Google could do practically anything. I didn't read the T&Cs in full but if it gave them the right to dig up my grandmother's grave, I probably wouldn't have noticed. So, yes, they can take away the account and everything that's in it.
B. Practicality. Many people have entire businesses with life's savings invested based in their Google account. If there are more than a few dozen people involved, I expect to see this in the news and Google will have to make a comment. They can say "tough luck". But I don't think it's worth it for them to have a name of destroying people's lives for buying 2-3 phones. Hopefully they will rescind this harsh decree.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 16, 2016, 01:09:58 PM
People have taken this very hard.
I ask of those who haven't had their primary accounts disabled, sit down for five minutes (300 seconds) and think what it would mean for you to have your entire primary Google account wiped without any prior notice.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 01:12:02 PM
What can we do to appeal to Google?
What if it is just a few people over all, so it doesn't make the news and pressure Google that way. What can we put in the email to them, or who can we talk to, to make them see reason?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 01:13:13 PM
People have taken this very hard.
I ask of those who haven't had their primary accounts disabled, sit down for five minutes (300 seconds) and think what it would mean for you to have your entire primary Google account wiped without any prior notice.
+1
I  didn't loose my primary account,
But I just realized today, that I had gift cards emailed to one of the accounts that's locked, now I need to figure out how to get it..
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 01:14:43 PM
+1
I  didn't loose my primary account,
But I just realized today, that I had gift cards emailed to one of the accounts that's locked, now I need to figure out how to get it..
Me, too, on both counts.  Thanks for reminding me about the GCs.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 16, 2016, 01:15:43 PM
+1
I  didn't loose my primary account,
But I just realized today, that I had gift cards emailed to one of the accounts that's locked, now I need to figure out how to get it..
I also had a gift card on my email but it was relatively recent and still on my phone. I immediately took a screenshot of it.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 01:16:36 PM
What can we do to appeal to Google?
Reach out to media?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 01:17:22 PM
I agree, if someone lost their business account it can easily add up to crazy amounts of $$ lost, or family pictures lost online is the modern day house fire. It's scary how much power we give these companies.

That's the lesson to be learned here.  Going forward, I will have all my emails/docs etc, forwarded and backed up to another email account.  It's literally mind boggling to contemplate the amount of lost information that has resulted from this "suspension."
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 01:19:36 PM
That's the lesson to be learned here.  Going forward, I will have all my emails/docs etc, forwarded and backed up to another email account.  It's literally mind boggling to contemplate the amount of lost information that has resulted from this "suspension."
but they can shut down that one as well ...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 01:20:10 PM
but they can shut down that one as well ...
Unless it's a Yahoo, aol, etc.
Who else do we have to choose from?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 01:21:01 PM
but they can shut down that one as well ...

How does Google shut down a Yahoo account?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 01:23:09 PM
How many people do think were shut down? Is it more than 15?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 01:24:22 PM
How many people do think were shut down? Is it more than 15?
I think so.
We can ask the wholesaler how many people bought for him.
But I had 2 accounts shut. 1 was insignificant, the other was my regular backup account.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 01:28:22 PM
Reach out to media?
Also plenty of frum people work for Google. Find some of them and ask for help.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bermo on November 16, 2016, 01:33:43 PM
How many people do think were shut down? Is it more than 15?
Over 100 maybe 500
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 16, 2016, 01:37:50 PM
Unless it's a Yahoo, aol, etc.
Who else do we have to choose from?
Live mail
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 01:40:41 PM
How many people do think were shut down? Is it more than 15?
i personally know of more (and there is a lot more)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 16, 2016, 01:41:23 PM
So, interesting update, when I filled out the disabled form for my secondary e-mail (albeit a work e-mail address) the response I received was basically "sorry, your account is not eligible for reinstatement." My spouses e-mail (their primary) the e-mail back stated "we are looking into your request and we've found that there is already a pending appeal on your account..." Has anyone here received the second appeals e-mail? Just curious
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 01:44:21 PM
So, interesting update, when I filled out the disabled form for my secondary e-mail (albeit a work e-mail address) the response I received was basically "sorry, your account is not eligible for reinstatement." My spouses e-mail (their primary) the e-mail back stated "we are looking into your request and we've found that there is already a pending appeal on your account..." Has anyone here received the second appeals e-mail? Just curious
i filled out a request and haven't received anything
(i only filled on the 2 more important ones )
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mochjas on November 16, 2016, 01:46:32 PM
Wow! Thank Gd I was not involved in this. I cannot imagine being without my gmail account. I feel bad for everyone affected.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 16, 2016, 01:47:43 PM
i filled out a request and haven't received anything
(i only filled on the 2 more important ones )

I think that is a good sign, my spouses didn't either, filled out one today and that is the response we received today (about the appeal).
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 01:48:53 PM
Over 100 maybe 500

Are you serious? Are you sure?

On the one hand, that gives us more leverage (power in numbers), on the other, it gives us less (more potential harm wrought on Google).

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 01:51:10 PM
So, interesting update, when I filled out the disabled form for my secondary e-mail (albeit a work e-mail address) the response I received was basically "sorry, your account is not eligible for reinstatement." My spouses e-mail (their primary) the e-mail back stated "we are looking into your request and we've found that there is already a pending appeal on your account..." Has anyone here received the second appeals e-mail? Just curious

They already responded to your reinstatement request? First I've heard.

When I tried to supplement my reinstatement request for my account with more information, I got an email back saying
Quote
We've looked into your request and we've found that there is already a pending appeal for your account. Please wait for the result of your current appeal.
  Not sure why you would have gotten an email saying there is already an appeal pending on an account no appeal was made. Odd.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bermo on November 16, 2016, 01:59:03 PM
Are you serious? Are you sure?

On the one hand, that gives us more leverage (power in numbers), on the other, it gives us less (more potential harm wrought on Google).
I'm sure it's over 100.
I know personally 20 accounts that got shut down.

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 01:59:50 PM
Over 100 maybe 500
not Sure about ppl, but fure sure accounts is possible to be that number,
Most ppl probably don't know yet that they lost there account
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Brian93 on November 16, 2016, 02:00:34 PM
Unless it's a Yahoo, aol, etc.
Who else do we have to choose from?

How does Google shut down a Yahoo account?
For me, the main crisis would be my drive/photos /gv /linked apps, than the actual emails.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: elit on November 16, 2016, 02:03:57 PM
Out of pure curiosity. What was everyone doing? Buying the phone for a dealer out of the country? Is it that much cheaper  here?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: lubaby on November 16, 2016, 02:05:16 PM
Wow! Thank Gd I was not involved in this. I cannot imagine being without my gmail account. I feel bad for everyone affected.
+1
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: lubaby on November 16, 2016, 02:08:40 PM
Out of pure curiosity. What was everyone doing? Buying the phone for a dealer out of the country? Is it that much cheaper  here?
Buying phones for dealers in the country, that have you ship to their fulfillment center (or rented office) in a state that doesn't charge sales tax. Then they sell the phones to international brokers/contacts. Same system (probably same buyers/brokers) as the iPhone deals every September.

Problem is, Google picked up on orders equaling thousands of phones being shipped to the same few addresses.

Each company releases phones in batches all around the world.
Example: This phone might not be released for another 6 months in Australia and people there may want it already and are willing to pay a premium to get it imported from the US.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 16, 2016, 02:25:17 PM
If I lost my google account I'd feel like I lost part of my identity.
In some ways it's part of who I am. Someone wants to reach out to me to say hi or wants to do business, they send me an email.

Gone.

Let me check my vacation photos that I stored in the cloud.

Gone.

How about my spreadsheets and work documents I backed up on Drive?

Also gone.

Maybe it's time that companies give us more rights. Imagine USPS stopped delivering your mail because you didn't put enough stamps on an envelope?

Google, you wanna suspend me? Give me 30 days to export my data and notify my contacts of the change.

Remember, services like Gmail, Drive, despite not having an upfront cost, are not free.
We are the product, and google profits very much off our data. We deserve to be treated like any paying customer.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: googwallet on November 16, 2016, 02:26:02 PM
Please blame this on the phone brokers. I had a dozen brokers reach out to me for iPhone resales and eventually turned them all down a few years in a row, losing a ton of cash each time, all for the reason that I read Apple T&C and saw it was prohibited and when done on such a mass scale even if they didn't do anything before they might and are entitled to make an exception if the wanted to.
Why the need to blame anyone? Do you think the dealers anticipated this? I don't understand why you (and often Dan) need to turn everyone's pain into your gain for "foreseeing this". People lost their primary google account that is a big deal. No need to mention here when the pain is raw how you knew better and denied their "ads". Sorry for being rough, it's just your post hits a raw nerve in me.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 03:00:50 PM
Why the need to blame anyone? Do you think the dealers anticipated this? I don't understand why you (and often Dan) need to turn everyone's pain into your gain for "foreseeing this". People lost their primary google account that is a big deal. No need to mention here when the pain is raw how you knew better and denied their "ads". Sorry for being rough, it's just your post hits a raw nerve in me.
I don't gain anything from this. And I said multiple times I hope they reinstate accounts and that this is devastating.

I got irked when some members were saying they didn't break any T&C and that everyone should sue Google.

Saying
last I checked, there is no public T&C regarding this,
And then saying
no, as the arnt any
That there aren't any T&C.

It makes people sound so ignorant it's painful.

And then people saying that we should sue Google and make millions on them:
Lets cut to the chase with a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT, we will make this the biggest court case in history and end up making millions of google for Making up terms and conditions and linking it to our personal email accounts which have nothing to do with what we purchased in the first place ,


This is a forums where people express what they think and when people say ignorant or outrageous things I will sometimes let them know what they are saying is factually incorrect. Hopefully that realization will help them in this case.

They will be much better off begging to get an account back than suing them for damages.

This is a terrible thing and I hope Google realizes how this is bad for them and way out of proportion. I hope everyone's account in reinstated asap.

I also gave some possible solutions and agree with Yuneeq that we give way too much power to these companies and if anything a good news story about this may actually cause law reform and give us the protection we deserve.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: dmdmoses46 on November 16, 2016, 03:02:22 PM
For Dan and jj and all the genius's who are saying that these people violated the terms and conditions it's just not true they violated the terms and conditions of the sale of the phone but not the terms and conditions of the gmail account it doesn't say anywhere that you can't use your gmail account for resale purpose it says that you can't buy the phones for resale but what does that have to do with the terms and conditions of the gmail account
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 03:08:59 PM
For Dan and jj and all the genius's who are saying that these people violated the terms and conditions it's just not true they violated the terms and conditions of the sale of the phone but not the terms and conditions of the gmail account it doesn't say anywhere that you can't use your gmail account for resale purpose it says that you can't buy the phones for resale but what does that have to do with the terms and conditions of the gmail account
I agree, and that's why I'm hopeful that they'll reinstate the accounts.
BUT they own the whole shebang.  We have email accounts at their pleasure. I'm sure their T&C say they can shut an account for no reason.  Just as the airlines and credit cards have similar clauses.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:09:25 PM
For Dan and jj and all the genius's who are saying that these people violated the terms and conditions it's just not true they violated the terms and conditions of the sale of the phone but not the terms and conditions of the gmail account it doesn't say anywhere that you can't use your gmail account for resale purpose it says that you can't buy the phones for resale but what does that have to do with the terms and conditions of the gmail account
It doesn't seem like Google differentiates between their services. Violate terms and you're out. That is scary and should be a topic of national conversation.
If one of the brokers email me I'll be happy to write something on DDMS.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 03:11:07 PM
For Dan and jj and all the genius's who are saying that these people violated the terms and conditions it's just not true they violated the terms and conditions of the sale of the phone but not the terms and conditions of the gmail account it doesn't say anywhere that you can't use your gmail account for resale purpose it says that you can't buy the phones for resale but what does that have to do with the terms and conditions of the gmail account
IANAL I hope you're right.

I'm trying to point out what I see as a clear T&C and why they would be justified. The more you know the better chance you have of making a coherent argument.

The same T&C page says:

Quote
When you use any Google services through your Device, your use is subject to the applicable terms and conditions for those services, including the Google Terms of Service. Use of certain Device features may require that you open a Google account. Note that Google services and content may vary by region.

Basically you are at their mercy for everything. And they can do whatever they want whenever they want.

I'm all for changing that at a congressional level, and passing cloud laws giving us rights to what's stored in our accounts.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 03:12:32 PM
Anyone find somewhere where that defines what their "services" are?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: dmdmoses46 on November 16, 2016, 03:12:40 PM
That's just it makes no sense that because someone violated the terms and conditions of Google Fi that they have a right to shut his email account where he didn't violate the terms and conditions
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
That's just it makes no sense that because someone violated the terms and conditions of Google Fi that they have a right to shut his email account where he didn't violate the terms and conditions
Did you read Google Fi Terms of service? And Gmail terms of service?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: dmdmoses46 on November 16, 2016, 03:14:55 PM
Yes and nowhere in the gmail terms and conditions does it say a word about resale
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 03:15:27 PM
From Google T&C:

Quote
We believe that you own your data and preserving your access to such data is important. If we discontinue a Service, where reasonably possible, we will give you reasonable advance notice and a chance to get information out of that Service.

Seems they're not complying with that... (And, don't give me any of that nonsense about it *not" being "reasonably possible" either.)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 03:16:27 PM
Anyone find somewhere where that defines what their "services" are?
I'd assume all of these? https://www.google.com/intl/en/about/products/

Yes and nowhere in the gmail terms and conditions does it say a word about resale
How do you define this?

Quote
Additional terms will be available with the relevant Services, and those additional terms become part of your agreement with us if you use those Services.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 03:17:12 PM
From Google T&C:

Seems they're not complying with that... (And, don't give me any of that nonsense about it *not" being "reasonably possible" either.)
Nice find! I can't imagine they won't give everyone access again.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
From Google T&C:

Seems they're not complying with that... (And, don't give me any of that nonsense about it *not" being "reasonably possible" either.)
They're not discontinuing a service. They're banning you.
Still, I'm assuming they will give over the data even if they do decide to ban.

And FTR I don't think they will actually ban everyone.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 03:19:03 PM
I don't gain anything from this. And I said multiple times I hope they reinstate accounts and that this is devastating.

I got irked when some members were saying they didn't break any T&C and that everyone should sue Google.

Saying And then saying  That there aren't any T&C.

It makes people sound so ignorant it's painful.

And then people saying that we should sue Google and make millions on them:

This is a forums where people express what they think and when people say ignorant or outrageous things I will sometimes let them know what they are saying is factually incorrect. Hopefully that realization will help them in this case.

They will be much better off begging to get an account back than suing them for damages.

This is a terrible thing and I hope Google realizes how this is bad for them and way out of proportion. I hope everyone's account in reinstated asap.

I also gave some possible solutions and agree with Yuneeq that we give way too much power to these companies and if anything a good news story about this may actually cause law reform and give us the protection we deserve.
maybe quote my next message where i stayed why i said what i said
i never said that i didnt break the t&c
i was asking which one we did (cuz i didnt read the t&c)
and when someone chats with project fi asking them what the t&c are and asking for a link, and the cs said that there is no public t&c but only internal, hence they couldn't provide a link, didnt think that that would fall under the category of not to rely..
and to follow up, the cs did in fact email that person a list of conditions (what/how many your allowed to buy)

so just to clarify, your upset cuz i'm 'ignorant' by believing them that there is no public t&c?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 03:19:25 PM
They're not discontinuing a service. They're banning you.
Still, I'm assuming they will give over the data even if they do decide to ban.

And FTR I don't think they will actually ban everyone.
So you think it means on a company level like if they stop offering Gmail to the public, not if they discontinue the service (i.e. ban) just a few people.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: dmdmoses46 on November 16, 2016, 03:20:06 PM
All that paragraph means is that any service you use is subject to the terms and conditions of that service but it doesn't say anywhere that if you violate the terms and conditions of one service they have a right to shut all there other services
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:20:23 PM
So you think it means on a company level like if they stop offering Gmail to the public, not if they discontinue the service (i.e. ban) just a few people.
That's how I read that line. They ended the Google affiliate network and gave me a few months to download the data before discontinuing it.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 03:21:24 PM
maybe quote my next message where i stayed why i said what i said
i never said that i didnt break the t&c
i was asking which one we did (cuz i didnt read the t&c)
and when someone chats with project fi asking them what the t&c are and asking for a link, and the cs said that there is no public t&c but only internal, hence they couldn't provide a link, didnt think that that would fall under the category of not to rely..
and to follow up, the cs did in fact email that person a list of conditions (what/how many your allowed to buy)

so just to clarify, your upset cuz i'm 'ignorant' by believing them that there is no public t&c?
Hindsight is 20/20 eh?

I wrote my comments before you explained yourself so I can quote those comments as well.

Regardless it is something readily available on their homepage so, I would say that it was a dumb rep either way.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 03:22:10 PM
All that paragraph means is that any service you use is subject to the terms and conditions of that service but it doesn't say anywhere that if you violate the terms and conditions of one service they have a right to shut all there other services
Sure does, it's one agreement. That's what the line means, by agreeing to this all other agreements become part of this.

ETA: The same terms page says

Quote
We may suspend or stop providing our Services to you if you do not comply with our terms or policies or if we are investigating suspected misconduct.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 03:23:59 PM
They're not discontinuing a service. They're banning you.

That may be the interpretation they intended, but it's debatable.

Still, I'm assuming they will give over the data even if they do decide to ban.

The issue, and what's concerning, is that emails are being bounced back, so the data they may ultimately give, is going to incomplete and defective. This is where the irrevocable damages stems from, and it's what I'm going to lean on in a big way if this is not resolved in short order.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: grodnoking on November 16, 2016, 03:25:07 PM
"Some of our Services allow you to upload, submit, store, send or receive content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours."

So nice they let you keep all YOUR information. If only they would let you access it too.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 03:25:34 PM
That may be the interpretation they intended, but it's debatable.

The issue, and what's concerning, is that emails are being bounced back, so the data they may ultimately give, is going to incomplete and defective. This is where the irrevocable damages stems from, and it's what I'm going to lean on in a big way if this is not resolved in short order.
I don't think you should wait, if you think you have a good argument send it now. I agree that one line is the best thing I've seen so far to use.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 03:26:15 PM
All that paragraph means is that any service you use is subject to the terms and conditions of that service but it doesn't say anywhere that if you violate the terms and conditions of one service they have a right to shut all there other services

Unfortunately, it seems they may have the better end of the legal argument (see below), but most courts sit in both legal and equitable capacities, and I am confident we have the better equitable claim.

Quote
Using our Services

You must follow any policies made available to you within the Services.

Don’t misuse our Services. For example, don’t interfere with our Services or try to access them using a method other than the interface and the instructions that we provide. You may use our Services only as permitted by law, including applicable export and re-export control laws and regulations. We may suspend or stop providing our Services to you if you do not comply with our terms or policies or if we are investigating suspected misconduct.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:27:28 PM
So Google Takeout isn't working for those affected?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 03:28:27 PM
So Google Takeout isn't working for those affected?

Gotta login for it to work...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 03:28:53 PM
Hindsight is 20/20 eh?

I wrote my comments before you explained yourself so I can quote those comments as well.

Regardless it is something readily available on their homepage so, I would say that it was a dumb rep either way.
well if the reason why your opinion was created, was taken away, then maybe you shouldn't have continued attacking us.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: grodnoking on November 16, 2016, 03:29:26 PM
Gotta login for it to work...
See if the login works.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:29:33 PM
Anyone have a real data on number of people and accounts?
What was the actual number of phones you could order per account?
What was the least number of phones someone ordered and got banned?
What was the most number of phones someone ordered and got banned?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:30:07 PM
well if the reason why your opinion was created, was taken away, then maybe you shouldn't have continued attacking us.
Dude. Nobody is attacking you. We're all rooting for you.
We're just saying to feign ignorance is not going to help. Personally I'd be EECBing every @Google I got my hands on.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 03:30:33 PM
Anyone have a real data on number of people and accounts?
What was the actual number of phones you could order per account?
What was the least number of phones someone ordered and got banned?
What was the most number of phones someone ordered and got banned?

Probably best to create external poll which people can send around using email. Oh wait...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 03:31:52 PM
Anyone have a real data on number of people and accounts?
What was the actual number of phones you could order per account?
What was the least number of phones someone ordered and got banned?
What was the most number of phones someone ordered and got banned?
the system allowed one primary line with 5 additional users (total 6)
one one account i think i only ordered one, which got shut down as well
not sure :)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 16, 2016, 03:34:33 PM
Is posting about this on DDMS really productive at this point?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: dmdmoses46 on November 16, 2016, 03:34:37 PM
Sure does, it's one agreement. That's what the line means, by agreeing to this all other agreements become part of this.

ETA: The same terms page says

it's not true  all it means is that each service is subject to its terms and conditions
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 03:35:43 PM
Dude. Nobody is attacking you. We're all rooting for you.
We're just saying to feign ignorance is not going to help. Personally I'd be EECBing every @Google I got my hands on.
that's not how it came about,
see ppl's comments
and i just sent the topic to someone (who got banned and is not on the forums) and he responded, wow they are attacking you hard .. so it can't be a biased opinion 
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 03:36:08 PM
Dude. Nobody is attacking you. We're all rooting for you.
+1. Seriously.

When you hire a lawyer and he says this is against you and this and this, and we can try to do this. Do you take that as attacking you...

Is posting about this on DDMS really productive at this point?
Bringing media attention to Google's crazy power may help get accounts back and bring on much needed reform.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 03:37:07 PM
When you hire a lawyer and he says this is against you and this and this, and we can try to do this. Do you take that as attacking you...
LOL
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shidduch on November 16, 2016, 03:38:03 PM
Just found another gmail account that got shut.  It didnt order a phone but had one of the shut accounts as its recovery account.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 03:39:20 PM
Just found another gmail account that got shut.  It didnt order a phone but had one of the shut accounts as its recovery account.
you sure????
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:39:54 PM
+1. Seriously.

When you hire a lawyer and he says this is against you and this and this, and we can try to do this. Do you take that as attacking you...
Bringing media attention to Google's crazy power may help get accounts back and bring on much needed reform.
+1K. Some people are being really defensive here. We get it, this is awful. I'd be devastated as well. But let's get your accounts back as the goal.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 03:40:01 PM
it's not true  all it means is that each service is subject to its terms and conditions

Quote
Additional terms will be available with the relevant Services, and those additional terms become part of your agreement with us if you use those Services.

I'd love a poll on this, but i literally cannot see how you are reading this.

It is an if then statement.

If you use those services then those additional terms become part of your agreement with us.

And understanding that when you use any google service you are under the google general agreement you can understand how breaking any term of that agreement now applies to all google services.

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:40:44 PM
Just found another gmail account that got shut.  It didnt order a phone but had one of the shut accounts as its recovery account.
Wow.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:41:07 PM
Is posting about this on DDMS really productive at this point?
You guys decide. I'm happy to make a post on it.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:41:45 PM
How many dealers/shipping addresses were there? Were these all going to NH?
Did the phones ship?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 16, 2016, 03:42:13 PM
You guys decide. I'm happy to make a post on it.
I think you may get some real data (such as how many people) and may help these people get their accounts back. Cant hurt?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 03:42:29 PM
You guys decide. I'm happy to make a post on it.
what will you include ?
like what will the point/agenda be?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 03:43:14 PM
Did the phones ship?
mine were all delivered
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: dmdmoses46 on November 16, 2016, 03:43:34 PM
I'm just curious why is this different than advertising for the coin deals from the mint which is clearly against the household limit
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 03:44:13 PM
Because the DDMS post asking people to order is not asking people to order 100 coins to one person.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:44:20 PM
what will you include ?
like what will the point/agenda be?
Warn others to backup their accounts/not mess with Google.
Try to go viral with Google shutting down accounts and put pressure on them.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 03:44:25 PM
I'm just curious why is this different than advertising for the coin deals from the mint which is clearly against the household limit
We do not recommend changing the household limits.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shidduch on November 16, 2016, 03:44:43 PM
you sure????
positive
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 16, 2016, 03:45:05 PM
If you ask me, Consumerist.com is where you start.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 16, 2016, 03:45:31 PM
If you ask me, Consumerist.com is where you start.
Hopefully they spin it the right way.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 03:45:42 PM
the crazy thing is, they did cancel orders, one account they canceled the order and then emailed me apologizing and offered me a 2 day shipping free and a direct link to order again and a 100 google play credit to be emailed to me  in a month ..
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 03:45:53 PM
Warn others to backup their accounts/not mess with Google.
Try to go viral with Google shutting down accounts and put pressure on them.
These are worthy goals in favor of posting.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:46:38 PM
We do not recommend changing the household limits.
And they ship to you, not to a place with no sales tax getting thousands of orders.

And
Lesson learned is don't mess around with companies that you can't afford to pi** off.
Also known as "Don't S#!t  where you eat"
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 03:46:51 PM
Just found another gmail account that got shut.  It didnt order a phone but had one of the shut accounts as its recovery account.

Wowza.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 16, 2016, 03:47:34 PM
I'm just curious why is this different than advertising for the coin deals from the mint which is clearly against the household limit
It's harder for the Mint to track, and it's technically within the household limits.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:48:16 PM
If you ask me, Consumerist.com is where you start.
They may very well pick up my story.
I'd just like to get some more facts collected.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: dmdmoses46 on November 16, 2016, 03:48:22 PM
And they ship to you, not to a place with no sales tax getting thousands of orders.

And
what in the world does that have to do with anything
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 03:48:30 PM
the crazy thing is, they did cancel orders, one account they canceled the order and then emailed me apologizing and offered me a 2 day shipping free and a direct link to order again and a 100 google play credit to be emailed to me  in a month ..
My first 2 orders (of 5 phones each) went through without a hitch. They shipped. All hunky dory until both my accounts were shut.
After the first 2 orders, I couldn't get any others to go through. B"H!!!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Chevreman on November 16, 2016, 03:48:36 PM
How many dealers/shipping addresses were there? Were these all going to NH?
Did the phones ship?

Tried takeout, does not work. Completely locked out.

I personally know of 6 people, each with multiple accounts (none of them are on this forum). I personally had 3 accounts closed.

Sent to NH, all phones shipped. (I have not heard from anyone who sent elsewhere, someone correct me if i'm wrong)

I would assume the number of people affected are in the (low) 100's.

 
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:48:39 PM
what in the world does that have to do with anything
And you serious?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 16, 2016, 03:48:44 PM
Try to go viral with Google shutting down accounts and put pressure on them.

Bringing media attention to Google's crazy power may help get accounts back and bring on much needed reform.


Question is whether it's premature for that.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:49:25 PM
Anyone else lose an account that didn't make an order and was just related?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:49:48 PM
Question is whether it's premature for that.
Valid question. But going viral may push them not to be evil.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 03:51:00 PM

Question is whether it's premature for that.

How is it premature?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 16, 2016, 03:51:54 PM
How is it premature?
You were the one saying all along how you're going to give Google a couple of days before going into action.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 16, 2016, 03:52:12 PM
I think a main site post would help get more information which could then be updated in the post. There are probably people who were affected and read DDMS but aren't on DDF.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 03:52:58 PM
You were the one saying all along how you're going to give Google a couple of days before going into action.

I know, I was asking why *you* think it's premature?

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 16, 2016, 03:53:30 PM
They may very well pick up my story.
I'd just like to get some more facts collected.

True I was thinking of using your story to get them to post it too.
Also the EFF and ars technica are worth a shot
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 03:54:25 PM
Valid question. But going viral may push them not to be evil.
I agree.  Get them to reconsider the whole thing before they finalize a decision.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 03:56:16 PM
I think a main site post would help get more information which could then be updated in the post. There are probably people who were affected and read DDMS but aren't on DDF.

Definitely probably true.

If a DDMS post goes up, it should emphasize that while suspended, emails are being *bounced* which means people will never know what they missed.

In some cases, bills, travel confirmations, work documents in Gdrive, etc, all of which if missed can irrevocably damage one's credit, risk their jobs, etc. It's actually truly problematic.

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 03:56:46 PM
True I was thinking of using your story to get them to post it too.
Also the EFF and ars technica are worth a shot

EFF is actually a great idea.  Then, it gets picked up, sites like Engadget and the Verge, etc.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 03:57:51 PM
Definitely probably true.

If a DDMS post goes up, it should emphasize that while suspended emails are being *bounced* which means people will never know what they missed.

In some cases, bills, travel confirmations, work documents in Gdrive, etc, all of which if missed can irrevocably damage one's credit, risk their jobs, etc. It's actually truly problematic.
Also lost cloud information. such as photos and documents.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 03:58:45 PM
Also lost cloud information. such as photos and documents.

Indeed. Suspending access to someone's email account, in today's day and age, is a weighty thing, especially when that suspension results in losing access to all one's personal information.

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 03:59:22 PM
Composing a post now, will preview here before publishing.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Chevreman on November 16, 2016, 03:59:47 PM
Anyone else lose an account that didn't make an order and was just related?

I actually placed quite a few orders and included gmail accounts as secondary accounts for phones, none of those secondary accounts were closed.
Only the primary account ordering and paying for Pixel phones were closed.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 04:00:50 PM
Composing a post now, will preview here before publishing.
Thank you.  This thread makes me feel less helpless and your post may tip the balance in our favor.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 04:01:04 PM
I actually placed quite a few orders and included gmail accounts as secondary accounts for phones, none of those secondary accounts were closed.
Only the primary account ordering and paying for Pixel phones were closed.

That makes sense. Why punish an account which had nothing to do with it?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 04:02:30 PM
Composing a post now, will preview here before publishing.

I don't think the below point can be over-emphasized:

If a DDMS post goes up, it should emphasize that while suspended, emails are being *bounced* which means people will never know what they missed.

In some cases, bills, travel confirmations, work documents in Gdrive, etc, all of which if missed can irrevocably damage one's credit, risk their jobs, etc. It's actually truly problematic.

It's one thing if they suspend ACCESS during an investigation. But to suspend the entire account such that emails sent during the investigation are bounced and never to be recovered?

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 16, 2016, 04:29:14 PM
Ok now it is my turn to say to all of you.  :)
PGFHGS
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 04:34:48 PM
Ok now it is my turn to say to all of you.  :)
PGFHGS

... how exactly would one be a pig in this scenario?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Cheesecake on November 16, 2016, 04:35:19 PM
I don't think the below point can be over-emphasized:

It's one thing if they suspend ACCESS during an investigation. But to suspend the entire account such that emails sent during the investigation are bounced and never to be recovered?
This is horrible. If I lost my main Gmail account, I'd be devastated.

I'm not sure that the emails bouncing back makes it worse, though. At least that way the sender knows that the email didn't go through.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AsherO on November 16, 2016, 04:36:09 PM
I guess I'm lucky when GoogleCheckout (remember them?) shut me down, they didn't touch any other Google services.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 04:36:37 PM
At least that way the sender knows that the email didn't go through.
+1 someone messaged me saying, I tried emailing you.. 
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AsherO on November 16, 2016, 04:37:31 PM
... how exactly would one be a pig in this scenario?

Ordering 6 phones per email address, for many email addresses. Even if the affected people didn't do this, someone shipping to the same address probably did, and increased everyone's risk of getting caught.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 04:38:30 PM
Ordering 6 phones per email address, for many email addresses. Even if the affected people didn't do this, someone shipping to the same address probably did, and increased everyone's risk of getting caught.

No, that would be the hog.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 04:38:43 PM
Ordering 6 phones per email address, for many email addresses. Even if the affected people didn't do this, someone shipping to the same address probably did, and increased everyone's risk of getting caught.
I don't think so, as they are looking at the big picture, not the individual cases
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 04:39:38 PM
This is horrible. If I lost my main Gmail account, I'd be devastated.

I'm not sure that the emails bouncing back makes it worse, though. At least that way the sender knows that the email didn't go through.

And what about if it's a credit card bill? A utility bill? or notice your flight has been cancelled?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 16, 2016, 04:40:08 PM
Ordering 6 phones per email address, for many email addresses.
I am shocked a DDF member would do this.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 16, 2016, 04:40:51 PM
Dan, I have some info for your post. I can PM it to you if you'll check your PM
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 16, 2016, 04:41:19 PM
This is horrible. If I lost my main Gmail account, I'd be devastated.

I'm not sure that the emails bouncing back makes it worse, though. At least that way the sender knows that the email didn't go through.

How about: "FINAL NOTICE: YOUR ACCOUNT WILL BE CLOSED UNLESS THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS ARE TAKEN"
or: "To reset your password, enter the email address we have on file."

The problems are endless.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Cheesecake on November 16, 2016, 04:42:08 PM
And what about if it's a credit card bill? A utility bill? or notice your flight has been cancelled?
How would it not bouncing back help you? You can't access it anyhow.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 16, 2016, 04:43:00 PM
What's the time frame from ordering phones to getting accounts closed?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Cheesecake on November 16, 2016, 04:43:02 PM
How about: "FINAL NOTICE: YOUR ACCOUNT WILL BE CLOSED UNLESS THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS ARE TAKEN"
or: "To reset your password, enter the email address we have on file."

The problems are endless.


How would it not bouncing back help you? You can't access it anyhow.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: googwallet on November 16, 2016, 04:44:11 PM
I think the number of accounts closed are in the hundreds. The people posting here alone probably account for 100 accounts then there are many more that didn't read this.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AsherO on November 16, 2016, 04:46:06 PM
No, that would be the hog.

Ah, yes, I misunderstood your question. Maybe pigs don't mess with Google...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 04:46:49 PM
What's the time frame from ordering phones to getting accounts closed?
Orders Nov 3 and 4.
Closed Nov 13.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shmuels2 on November 16, 2016, 04:47:16 PM
I think the number of accounts closed are in the hundreds. The people posting here alone probably account for 100 accounts then there are many more that didn't read this.

If we're keeping a running tally, put me down for nine.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 04:47:29 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/98444

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 16, 2016, 04:47:40 PM
Orders Nov 3 and 4.
Closed Nov 13.
Wow!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: googwallet on November 16, 2016, 04:48:15 PM
I had four accounts closed.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 16, 2016, 04:49:33 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/98444

Thoughts?

Though about messing with Google? Don't or they may just shut your account!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 04:51:17 PM
How would it not bouncing back help you? You can't access it anyhow.

Not yet.



...hopefully.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 16, 2016, 04:52:31 PM
How would it not bouncing back help you? You can't access it anyhow.

He wasn't saying that bouncing is worse than not bouncing.
He's saying that bouncing emails instead of letting them get saved is terrible.

For example if google decides to allow access to the account again you still lose all your new emails for the a minimum of a few weeks.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 16, 2016, 04:52:58 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/98444

Thoughts?
Good PSA.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: htg123 on November 16, 2016, 04:53:39 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/98444

Thoughts?

page doesnt load
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 04:54:05 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/98444

Thoughts?

Well written.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 16, 2016, 04:54:43 PM
page doesnt load
Yup DDMS is loading very slow
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shmuels2 on November 16, 2016, 04:54:58 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/98444

Thoughts?

Very nicely put, I think it strikes all the right notes of contrition and appealing to Google HQ's better nature. Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 04:55:06 PM
page doesnt load
working for me
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 16, 2016, 04:55:53 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/98444

Thoughts?

Change first parapgraph from being one big link to a small one.
Many sites include related articles in these types of links so many people gloss over them.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 16, 2016, 04:56:00 PM

Nicely done.  Thank you.

"These people affected don’t have access to Gmail, Google Drive, or anything from Google."   write 'the'


"I’ve already started the process of having my information delivered to me and plan on doing on a regular basis in the future." write plan on doing so on
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 16, 2016, 04:56:26 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/98444

Thoughts?
Link not working for me

ERROR

The request could not be satisfied.

CloudFront attempted to establish a connection with the origin, but either the attempt failed or the origin closed the connection.
Generated by cloudfront (CloudFront)
Request ID: 4V5TB_H5v4g-p5701qc3NJ1LxjOz5HnXTaorR2aK0f29MfptVUWQbw==
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:02:00 PM
Updated the post a bit
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 16, 2016, 05:02:12 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/98444

Thoughts?
More of a PSA than a complaint against Google. I'm guessing that's deliberate.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 05:03:02 PM
More of a PSA than a complaint against Google. I'm guessing that's deliberate.
I think both
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:04:00 PM
I think both
That was my intention.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:04:22 PM
Last call for changes.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: htg123 on November 16, 2016, 05:05:56 PM
Last call for changes.

i think it has the right balance
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 16, 2016, 05:06:43 PM
Last call for changes.
in my opinion the title should be a bit more striking 
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 16, 2016, 05:07:15 PM
More of a PSA than a complaint against Google.
Hoping they read it that way.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 16, 2016, 05:07:41 PM
Last call for changes.

Even if Google relents and reactivated their accounts they will never know what emails they missed while the

reactivates

or relented
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 16, 2016, 05:08:47 PM
I’m not defending those who violating the terms of the sale,

violated
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 05:11:11 PM
Are Android phones not working, if your account got shut?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 16, 2016, 05:11:56 PM
Last call for changes.

I think their should be links to other sites that might report on it.
Clicks to their site might get them to notice and take action.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shmuels2 on November 16, 2016, 05:13:40 PM
I think their should be links to other sites that might report on it.
Clicks to their site might get them to notice and take action.

Hacker News (https://news.ycombinator.com/) is a good place to start. Full of engineers, lots of Googlers and other tech folks.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 05:13:50 PM
I think their should be links to other sites that might report on it.
Clicks to their site might get them to notice and take action.

How would you incorporate?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:14:11 PM
I think their should be links to other sites that might report on it.
Clicks to their site might get them to notice and take action.
Seems like that's more of a job for DDFers to Tweet and email them.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:14:41 PM
Don’t Mess With The Google
or
PSA: Don’t Mess With The Google!
Or?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 16, 2016, 05:16:36 PM
Don’t Mess With The Google
or
PSA: Don’t Mess With The Google!
Or?
Latter
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:17:10 PM
What does it say when you try to login?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 16, 2016, 05:17:23 PM
How would you incorporate?

"I reached out to Consumerist and the EFF for their thoughts on Googles actions, still awaiting their replies"

Edit: "While articles like this are more appropriate for sites like xyz, I decided..."
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 05:19:22 PM
"I reached out to Consumerist and the EFF for their thoughts on Googles actions, still awaiting their replies"

I like.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 05:19:42 PM
What does it say when you try to login?
want a screenshot?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 16, 2016, 05:20:15 PM
want a screenshot?
why not?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: coralsnake on November 16, 2016, 05:20:20 PM
Free Google CC processing.....good times!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:22:09 PM
"I reached out to Consumerist and the EFF for their thoughts on Googles actions, still awaiting their replies"
Done and done.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:22:32 PM
want a screenshot?
Sure, dan@dansdeals.com
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:22:41 PM
Free Google CC processing.....good times!
:)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:25:54 PM
want a screenshot?
Sure, dan@dansdeals.com
Anyone?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 05:26:37 PM
Sure, dan@dansdeals.com
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:27:05 PM

Need full res to my email.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 05:27:38 PM
if you need it better quality, ill email it with an eamil account that i sill have ;)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:30:09 PM
if you need it better quality, ill email it with an eamil account that i sill have ;)
Need full res to my email.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:35:12 PM
Got, thanks.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 05:35:25 PM
Anyone?
received?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Cheesecake on November 16, 2016, 05:35:50 PM
He wasn't saying that bouncing is worse than not bouncing.
He's saying that bouncing emails instead of letting them get saved is terrible.

For example if google decides to allow access to the account again you still lose all your new emails for the a minimum of a few weeks.
That depends if he gets his account back soon.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 16, 2016, 05:36:10 PM
Got, thanks.
I sent you some DPs
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 16, 2016, 05:37:06 PM
Got, thanks.
Wording is funny..

They encounter an error message...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 16, 2016, 05:39:44 PM
Wording is funny..

They encounter an error message...
Much better
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:41:09 PM
Well that got a lot of people online!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shmaya on November 16, 2016, 05:43:05 PM
Thanks for helping me figure out why my account closed!

I emailed them 3 times but no response yet. I only ordered 2 phones.

It seems very concerning if they are allowed to shut off access to my personal data, Its easier for me to accept them sitting down the account from further use.

I have been unable to access information I needed for my job for the past 2 days.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 16, 2016, 05:43:48 PM
Well that got a lot of people online!
DDF or DDMS?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 16, 2016, 05:43:57 PM
Well that got a lot of people online!
How many hits?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 05:44:31 PM
did you send a twitter text ?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 05:44:48 PM
Thanks for helping me figure out why my account closed!

I emailed them 3 times but no response yet. I only ordered 2 phones.

It seems very concerning if they are allowed to shut off access to my personal data, Its easier for me to accept them sitting down the account from further use.

I have been unable to access information I needed for my job for the past 2 days.
Comment on the post.

DDF or DDMS?
DDMS
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 05:45:55 PM
This is the email we got.
only if you had a recovery account, that wasnt shut down
thats how i was informed
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: googwallet on November 16, 2016, 05:46:29 PM
Screenshot of the email.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 16, 2016, 05:51:39 PM
"All information associated with your suspended account will eventually get deleted, unless successfully appealed." :o :o :o

Sounds like they are specifically ruling out returning data after a ban.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 16, 2016, 05:58:40 PM
Thanks for helping me figure out why my account closed!

I emailed them 3 times but no response yet. I only ordered 2 phones.

It seems very concerning if they are allowed to shut off access to my personal data, Its easier for me to accept them sitting down the account from further use.

I have been unable to access information I needed for my job for the past 2 days.
I know someone who only ordered one with his primary account and 1 with a secondary account and was locked out.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: googwallet on November 16, 2016, 05:59:14 PM
I'm trying to leave a comment on DDMS keeps freezing on me.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 16, 2016, 06:03:47 PM
I'm trying to leave a comment on DDMS keeps freezing on me.

Be careful- If you leave more than one comment Dan might ban you from DDMS, DDF, and all affiliates of the DansDeals network.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 16, 2016, 06:04:22 PM
I'm trying to leave a comment on DDMS keeps freezing on me.

Google got to that too ?!?!? :D
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 06:10:01 PM
 

smh
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: incendia on November 16, 2016, 06:14:06 PM




 

smh

Its actually not so crazy.

If you have Drive on your computer it should we saved locally when you connect to the web.

1) Im assuming that people didn't lose documents saved locally with Google Drive

2) it could lead to bad habits of over relying on Google, which is the problem you are trying to solve

it also depends on why are backing up your data

best practice would be to save on multiple cloud services and local storage devices
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JoeyShmoe on November 16, 2016, 06:16:06 PM
FWIW I sent the link to the DDMS to Android Central
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Baruch on November 16, 2016, 06:16:29 PM
Created a separate thread to discuss how to backup google info to protect oneself in case of shutdown

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=68135.0
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eli1571 on November 16, 2016, 06:39:19 PM


Wow, not only are they "disabled," the accounts are bouncing back emails, so if/when you get back in, you won't know what emails you missed.


That's the lesson to be learned here.  Going forward, I will have all my emails/docs etc, forwarded and backed up to another email account.  It's literally mind boggling to contemplate the amount of lost information that has resulted from this "suspension."
just reading this thread now.
Forwarding Won't help if the above is true.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: lechatchileh ariber on November 16, 2016, 06:41:39 PM

just reading this thread now.
Forwarding Won't help if the above is true.
At least you will have access to all your old emails, GC's etc.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Heshelmangel on November 16, 2016, 06:58:11 PM
Anyone try twitter?

yes, i have tried. They just replied to me, basically telling me to fill out the same form that we all got. no additional info
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2016, 08:06:26 PM
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12972554
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Zalc on November 16, 2016, 08:17:00 PM
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12972554
Is there a way to send this to Ars Technica?

This seems like a story they they would be interested in.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: grodnoking on November 16, 2016, 08:18:31 PM
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12972554
Someone has a very similar complaint against Wikipedia.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Heshelmangel on November 16, 2016, 08:25:23 PM
Seems like that's more of a job for DDFers to Tweet and email them.

Yes! If everyone here will speak out on twitter and the like to all these websites (including @google in the post maybe) maybe it will gain attraction. I have begun doing so, but this has to be a mass effort.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 08:28:37 PM
Is there a way to send this to Ars Technica?

This seems like a story they they would be interested in.

Agree. People should submit there (via website and tweeting) and to The Verge and probably WSJ. The more people that participate, the more likely the story will get picked up.

To digitally delete someone's life -- no hundreds of people's lives -- in one fell swoop for an unrelated purchase of a few hundred phones for which the order was paid for, accepted, and shipped, is troubling and should have far-reaching ramifications of how these companies control our data.

Further, what's really scary is that many services, including credit card companies and banks, require one's *old* email address to verify a change to a *new* email address. So those affected are forever locked out of their banks and credit card companies?! For buying a phone?

Google: Next time just cancel the order if you didn't want to accept it. Don't accept it, take the money, ship it, and then days later decide you're going to digitally delete the existence of hundreds of your users.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: farmbochur on November 16, 2016, 08:36:15 PM
Has this link made it here yet?
https://youtu.be/ntICHMV-WMA
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: aygart on November 16, 2016, 09:05:18 PM
I have a feeling trump would be just delighted to knock Schmidt
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 16, 2016, 09:34:46 PM
I googled "Google account blocked pixel" and I got a hit from itwire.com they even give a HT to Dan's deals

http://www.itwire.com/mobility/75784-pixel-phone-resellers-have-google-accounts-blocked.html
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Moe Ginsburg on November 16, 2016, 10:02:18 PM
I think those affected will be lucky if Google agrees to provide a copy of their emails, photos and other data. Getting back the account and email address is unlikely in my opinion.

Btw, did anyone lose access to a Google Voice number?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 16, 2016, 10:26:21 PM
I think those affected will be lucky if Google agrees to provide a copy of their emails, photos and other data. Getting back the account and email address is unlikely in my opinion.

Btw, did anyone lose access to a Google Voice number?
Buying a pixel messes up your Google Voice number so I don't think anyone used an account associated with a Google Voice number
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 16, 2016, 10:37:12 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/5dcs32/psa_if_you_violate_any_of_googles_tos_they_will
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 10:41:21 PM

http://www.itwire.com/mobility/75784-pixel-phone-resellers-have-google-accounts-blocked.html
who said the dealer is ready to give Google back the phones?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 16, 2016, 10:41:58 PM
who said the dealer is ready to give Google back the phones?
Dan. Did u read the post on ddms?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 10:43:14 PM
Dan. Did u read the post on ddms?
more than once, was it hiding?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 16, 2016, 10:44:17 PM
more than once, was it hiding?
3rd paragraph after first picture, last line
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 10:44:26 PM
Ah, I found it nvm;)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 10:45:08 PM
Did it also say that ppl made new accounts to go around the limit?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Baruch on November 16, 2016, 10:46:30 PM
I once texted 40 people from my Google Voice account. Google thought it was spam. They shut down my Google account. I had the same message everyone's getting now. I appealed. Magically, a few months later my account was reopened.
(I can't remember if I appealed a second time)

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 10:48:12 PM
You said months?? ?? ??
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 16, 2016, 10:49:45 PM
I once texted 40 people from my Google Voice account. Google thought it was spam. They shut down my Google account. I had the same message everyone's getting now. I appealed. Magically, a few months later my account was reopened.
(I can't remember if I appealed a second time)
We don't have months
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Baruch on November 16, 2016, 10:50:09 PM
You said months?? ?? ??
yep.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 16, 2016, 10:51:14 PM
We don't even have days
FTFY
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Baruch on November 16, 2016, 10:52:30 PM
We don't have months
sorry, may your situation be resolved asap. Also I believe your crime may be more personal to them, than my "spam".

I wasn't working so hard to get it reopened, bec, all I used in that Google account was Voice.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Baruch on November 16, 2016, 10:55:25 PM
Shutting someone's Google accounts, is in a certain sense similar to cutting off one of their limbs. It is really harsh punishment. It is so crucial to daily life and business, to have access to your data. You can't live the same. It's crippling.

Just because they have so much power, doesn't give them the right to use it. #Bullies
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 16, 2016, 11:05:21 PM
Shutting someone's Google accounts, is in a certain sense similar to cutting off one of their limbs. It is really harsh punishment. It is so crucial to daily life and business, to have access to your data. You can't live the same. It's crippling.

Just because they have so much power, doesn't give them the right to use it. #Bullies
That's not true. We forget how much power we give these companies but it doesn't mean they don't have the right to wield said power if they choose to.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2016, 11:27:42 PM
Again, having the "right" is not only dependent on what Google says it is allowed to do, or even what's in their T&C. It's what a Court says they can do. And despite the terms, it's hardly equitable to impose digital death on a person who made an unrelated purchase, causing massive damages to personal lives, businesses, and other irreplaceable files.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 16, 2016, 11:41:05 PM
Again, having the "right" is not only dependent on what Google says it is allowed to do, or even what's in their T&C. It's what a Court says they can do. And despite the terms, it's hardly equitable to impose digital death on a person who made an unrelated purchase, causing massive damages to personal lives, businesses, and other irreplaceable files.
I agree, I was just commenting on the fact that saying they don't have the right isn't true as of now, until a court rules on something like this, they can and will do what they want.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mendy613 on November 17, 2016, 12:10:22 AM
This should be a national story.
I had three accounts shut down.
This hurts.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 12:19:02 AM
This should be a national story.
I had three accounts shut down.
This hurts.
Tweet/Email the press.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 12:22:10 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/5dcs32/psa_if_you_violate_any_of_googles_tos_they_will
And upvote this.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 12:22:33 AM
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12972554
And upvote this
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: lubaby on November 17, 2016, 12:35:00 AM
more than once, was it hiding?
I think it got added after the original posting.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 17, 2016, 12:40:13 AM
I think it got added after the original posting.
how can they, if they don't have then anymore, at least I hope they don't have them all...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 17, 2016, 12:47:13 AM
Again, having the "right" is not only dependent on what Google says it is allowed to do, or even what's in their T&C. It's what a Court says they can do. And despite the terms, it's hardly equitable to impose digital death on a person who made an unrelated purchase, causing massive damages to personal lives, businesses, and other irreplaceable files.
Ok we get the point.
Nobody died here. It seems since it is not a lot of people affected so they are making a point here. If they are anything like PP your chance are slim to none in getting your account reinstated.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 01:27:03 AM
Ok we get the point.
Nobody died here. It seems since it is not a lot of people affected so they are making a point here. If they are anything like PP your chance are slim to none in getting your account reinstated.
Idk if they will reinstate, but it is pretty clear in their own t&c's that all digital content belongs to the user. So they should have to allow people to remove their stuff with a warning.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 01:32:38 AM
Ok we get the point.
Nobody died here.

I'm not sure if you're generally trying to downplay the importance of losing access to one's email, or if you simply cannot fathom what that would look and feel like because it didn't happen to you, but I can assure you, it's not a laughing matter.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 17, 2016, 01:38:48 AM
I'm not sure if you're generally trying to downplay the importance of losing access to one's email, or if you simply cannot fathom what that would look and feel like because it didn't happen to you, but I can assure you, it's not a laughing matter.
Exactly

People have taken this very hard.
I ask of those who haven't had their primary accounts disabled, sit down for five minutes (300 seconds) and think what it would mean for you to have your entire primary Google account wiped without any prior notice.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 17, 2016, 02:49:26 AM
I'm not sure if you're generally trying to downplay the importance of losing access to one's email, or if you simply cannot fathom what that would look and feel like because it didn't happen to you, but I can assure you, it's not a laughing matter.
I must admit losing an email account is no big deal for me. If nothing else this should be a wake up call to those who do use email for everything. While I might joke around I know for some this is a big deal.
People have taken this very hard.
I ask of those who haven't had their primary accounts disabled, sit down for five minutes (300 seconds) and think what it would mean for you to have your entire primary Google account wiped without any prior notice.
Ok I did that.  :)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: htg123 on November 17, 2016, 07:19:01 AM
Certainly getting places...
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/17/google-suspends-customer-accounts-for-reselling-pixel-phones
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2016, 07:25:06 AM
Certainly getting places...
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/17/google-suspends-customer-accounts-for-reselling-pixel-phones

Wow! That was quick! Well done Dan!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: aj26 on November 17, 2016, 07:38:50 AM
Tweet/Email the press.

His email account was shut down
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: chff on November 17, 2016, 08:13:41 AM
Yah
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 17, 2016, 08:19:02 AM
I know, I was asking why *you* think it's premature?
Once it hits the press, there's no blowing over quietly. Google has no motivation to keep it from hitting the press once it goes viral, and they may not want to be seen as having backed down; as so not to set precedent.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2016, 08:25:28 AM
Once it hits the press, there's no blowing over quietly. Google has no motivation to keep it from hitting the press once it goes viral, and they may not want to be seen as having backed down; as so not to set precedent.
That makes sense if you have a negotiating partner.  In this case it doesn't seem like it's possible for anyone affected to reach someone who cares and is able to make a difference.

The logic is that once it hits the press, higherups wil notice.  Then there is at least a chance they my choose to reinstate.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Eliyohu on November 17, 2016, 09:15:38 AM
https://thestack.com/world/2016/11/17/google-pixel-resellers-account-blocked/

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/google-bans-accounts-of-pixel-phone-resellers
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 09:21:15 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/5deyc2/psa_dont_mess_with_the_google_they_will_shut_down/
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2016, 09:47:21 AM
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/google-bans-accounts-of-pixel-phone-resellers
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 17, 2016, 10:10:14 AM
No concern that we are forcing Google to double down. - to make sure the public know that they enforce the t&c?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 17, 2016, 10:11:41 AM
No concern that we are forcing Google to double down. - to make sure the public know that they enforce the t&c?
Ding ding ding we may have a winner!!!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 10:14:06 AM
No concern that we are forcing Google to double down. - to make sure the public know that they enforce the t&c?
I guess it depends on whether this is an algorithm shutdown or not.

I'd assume it is and that a pair of human eyes might be sympathetic. System caught tons of orders to one address, assumed all the accounts were fraudulent.

But if not, then all bets are off. But still, Google accomplishes looking scary at what cost? Never good for business to scare the public without a good reason to want to scare everyone.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Sport on November 17, 2016, 10:17:27 AM
No concern that we are forcing Google to double down. - to make sure the public know that they enforce the t&c?
I think the odds are better that Google is concerned with the publics loss of trust. They can still save face and enforce t&c by giving violators a 72 hr advanced warning that their account will be disabled so that they can make appropriate arrangements.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2016, 10:19:03 AM
I think the odds are better that Google is concerned with the publics loss of trust. They can still save face and enforce t&c by giving violators a 72 hr advanced warning that their account will be disabled so that they can make appropriate arrangements.

+1

Permenant closure is still heavy handed,  but with advance warning is defensible.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 17, 2016, 10:21:29 AM
I think the odds are better that Google is concerned with the publics loss of trust.
What lost of trust? Most will look at this the way they do with all the games we play. We got what we deserve will be what they are thinking.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: 4yourinfo on November 17, 2016, 10:22:49 AM
Sent an article to drudge
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 17, 2016, 10:23:02 AM
What lost of trust? Most will look at this the way they do with all the games we play. We got what we deserve will be what they are thinking.
Have you read all the articles in the wiki?

It goes both ways.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 17, 2016, 10:25:55 AM
https://consumerist.com/2016/11/17/is-google-shutting-down-the-accounts-of-users-who-resell-their-pixel-phones/
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 10:26:14 AM


I guess it depends on whether this is an algorithm shutdown or not.

I'd assume it is and that a pair of human eyes might be sympathetic. System caught tons of orders to one address, assumed all the accounts were fraudulent.

But if not, then all bets are off.
Don't we have DP of attempted appeals? Please don't tell me that's algorithms too
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 17, 2016, 10:26:45 AM
Have you read all the articles in the wiki?
Yes.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 17, 2016, 10:27:46 AM
Any idea how many were dealing with this dealer?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Sport on November 17, 2016, 10:29:59 AM
What lost of trust? Most will look at this the way they do with all the games we play. We got what we deserve will be what they are thinking.
Perhaps trust is the wrong word. Currently people don't think twice about how much the rely on google and entrust them with too many important items- which google loves. This story will have people thinking twice about their blind trust in google.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 17, 2016, 10:31:01 AM
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-bans-hundreds-of-accounts-of-people-reselling-Pixel-phones_id87907
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Sport on November 17, 2016, 10:31:06 AM
Sent an article to drudge
I sent this morning too. Lets see if he bites.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 17, 2016, 10:42:25 AM
Yes.
CV would appreciate this please forward it http://www.komputerswiat.pl/artykuly/redakcyjne/2016/11/sprzedawanie-google-pixel-ma-przykre-konsekwencje-mozecie-pozegnac-sie-ze-swoim-mailem-i-reszta-uslug-google-a.aspx
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 10:45:39 AM
https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dansdeals.com%2Farchives%2F98444&src=typd

Should have made a hashtag...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 17, 2016, 10:48:23 AM
https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dansdeals.com%2Farchives%2F98444&src=typd

Should have made a hashtag...
was thinking of recommending that
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 17, 2016, 10:49:22 AM
Is it to late?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Alexsei on November 17, 2016, 10:49:43 AM
Why are none of these titles more like dan's Don’t Mess With The Google! or something like time to find a new email provider, Backup your google DATA now etc.  it brings out the issue much more
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 10:51:17 AM
was thinking of recommending that
Should have spoken up earlier :)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 17, 2016, 10:51:55 AM
https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dansdeals.com%2Farchives%2F98444&src=typd

Should have made a hashtag...
#Don'tMessWithGoogle
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 17, 2016, 10:55:24 AM
Naa that sounds like you care about Google.
#vindictivegoogle
#messedupbygoogle
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 10:57:11 AM
#Don'tMessWithGoogle

Strongly dislike, as that seems like finger-wagging at customers, pro-Google.  Fact is, perhaps a suspension from Google Fi is warranted (if that), but this is draconian.

#DigitalHousefire?
#GoogleDeath?
#TurnedToPixelDust?
#21stCenturyDeathPenalty?
#GoogleImposedDeath?
#GoogleDigitalDeath?
#DigitallyLockedOut?
#DigitalLockout?
#DigitalDeath?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 17, 2016, 10:57:33 AM
#Don'tMessWithGoogle

tweeted
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 17, 2016, 10:58:01 AM
#ExecutedByGoogle
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: grodnoking on November 17, 2016, 10:58:43 AM
tweeted
Retweeted
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: cholent on November 17, 2016, 11:00:11 AM
Don't like, for reasons above.

#DigitalHousefire?
#GoogleDeath?
#TurnedToPixelDust?
#21stCenturyDeathPenalty?
#GoogleImposedDeath?
#GoogleDigitalDeath?
#DigitallyLockedOut?
#DigitalLockout?
#DigitalDeath?

I like #GoogleDigitalDeath best. Need to include the name Google as well as a strongly negative phrase, and alliteration always helps of course
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shmuels2 on November 17, 2016, 11:00:24 AM
#ExecutedByGoogle

Here's hoping they just wanna make us sweat for a week or two, so we can really be sure that you #dontmesswithgoogle
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 11:01:04 AM
#GoogleDeathPenalty
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 17, 2016, 11:02:24 AM
More of a PSA than a complaint against Google. I'm guessing that's deliberate.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 11:02:37 AM
I like #GoogleDigitalDeath best. Need to include the name Google as well as a strongly negative phrase, and alliteration always helps of course

I agree with both of those points.

#GoogleDigitalDeath
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: cholent on November 17, 2016, 11:03:06 AM
#GoogleDeathPenalty

I like #GoogleDigitalDeath better. The alliteration, and death penalty sounds a little over the top to me... Digital Death is an accurate descriptor
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 17, 2016, 11:06:10 AM
#DeathByGoogle
#DigitalDeathByGoogle
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 17, 2016, 11:06:30 AM
You can post an update...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 11:06:47 AM
I like #GoogleDigitalDeath better. The alliteration, and death penalty sounds a little over the top to me... Digital Death is an accurate descriptor
Better than #GoogleDeath ?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 11:07:01 AM
#DeathByGoogle
Not bad.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 17, 2016, 11:07:30 AM
Part of what makes a good hashtag is the usability as part of a sentence.

#DontMessWithGoogle or they will delete all your vacation photos

Its harder to do with #GoogleDigitalDeath
I died a #GoogleDigitalDeath for reselling Pixel phones
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 17, 2016, 11:08:28 AM
Part of what makes a good hashtag is the usability as part of a sentence.

#DontMessWithGoogle or they will delete all your vacation photos

Its harder to do with #GoogleDigitalDeath
I died a #GoogleDigitalDeath for reselling Pixel phones
Then #GoogleDigitalMurder
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 17, 2016, 11:08:58 AM
Not bad.
Like
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 17, 2016, 11:16:36 AM
#GoogleGetsFatCostumersGetSlaughtered
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 11:17:23 AM
#googledigitaldeath in Google search yields only this thread. Lol
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Zalc on November 17, 2016, 11:22:59 AM
#Don'tMessWithGoogle
#Don'tBeEvil

Whatever happened to this?

Or did Google remove it from their site?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 11:23:07 AM


#DeathByGoogle

That hashtag usually refers to someone who gets "killed" by Google. For example someone googles "bump on leg" and gets results "tumor"...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 17, 2016, 11:23:41 AM
#GoogliathV.David
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 11:25:54 AM


#DontMessWithGoogle
This is already being used in a good way like don't mess with Google, because they're much better than Samsung...

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 17, 2016, 11:26:41 AM
@ajk did you sue yet?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 17, 2016, 11:33:12 AM
I hope this wasn't premature and counterproductive.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 11:33:43 AM
I wasn't sure to post this here or in the preemptive thread, but maybe @dan should consider giving out email addresses @dansdeals.com CMIIW, but if u have a website already, you can give out email addresses, no? Small fee, and after this whole stunt, I'm sure many will sign up, plus it would be like a status badge...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 17, 2016, 11:35:14 AM
I wasn't sure to post this here or in the preemptive thread, but maybe @dan should consider giving out email addresses @dansdeals.com CMIIW, but if u have a website already, you can give out email addresses, no? Small fee, and after this whole stunt, I'm sure many will sign up, plus it would be like a status badge...
Brand suicide much?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dr Moose on November 17, 2016, 11:37:08 AM
In the mean time, Dan is smiling ear to ear, as this has gotten him more clicks than the WS first pitch ...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 17, 2016, 11:37:58 AM


this has gotten him more clicks than the WS first pitch ...
That for sure.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 17, 2016, 11:38:30 AM
Its time for someone to write a really good tear jerking open letter to google and then "virelize" it.
Express remorse and explain how your life is over etc etc.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 11:39:54 AM
Brand suicide much?
?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 17, 2016, 11:40:57 AM
?
Companies don't just give out their domain email addresses because then people can act like they are part of that company...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 11:41:52 AM
Companies don't just give out their domain email addresses because then people can act like they are part of that company...
Gotcha
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 11:46:16 AM
In the mean time, Dan is smiling ear to ear, as this has gotten him more clicks than the WS first pitch ...
Almost all the people viewing the article are bouncing right out. Not really worth much, especially as I don't have any impression based ads.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Sport on November 17, 2016, 11:55:53 AM
Almost all the people viewing the article are bouncing right out. Not really worth much, especially as I don't have any impression based ads.
Can you reveal how many hits in the last 12 -16hrs
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 17, 2016, 11:59:52 AM
Almost all the people viewing the article are bouncing right out. Not really worth much, especially as I don't have any impression based ads.

You'd be surprised how much it helps your pagerank.
Getting linked to by heavily trafficked authoritative websites is never insignificant.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 17, 2016, 12:08:27 PM
http://fortune.com/2016/11/17/google-pixel-ban/
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 12:09:08 PM
http://fortune.com/2016/11/17/google-pixel-ban/
Good grief. Totally hung up on the tax aspect.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 17, 2016, 12:12:34 PM
Good grief. Totally hung up on the tax aspect.
Ya seems silly they'd take that out of this.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 17, 2016, 12:14:01 PM
Good grief. Totally hung up on the tax aspect.

Send them a correction
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: tmendy226 on November 17, 2016, 12:14:13 PM
Ya seems silly they'd take that out of this.

Funny that no one mentioned the unspoken benefit for the buyers.......
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: aygart on November 17, 2016, 12:16:01 PM
Send the story to Drudge. Enough do it it can get there. That would be much more publicity than any of these sites. He is no friend of Google.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 12:18:06 PM
Send the story to Drudge. Enough do it it can get there. That would be much more publicity than any of these sites. He is no friend of Google.
Read up thread. At least 2 people said they sent it already
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 12:18:44 PM
Send them a correction

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 12:22:05 PM
http://fortune.com/2016/11/17/google-pixel-ban/

smh
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 17, 2016, 12:27:18 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
@arrington 212k followers
This is absolutely brutal. "digital death sentence" for pissing off Google.
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/98444
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 12:42:30 PM
I think I found the potential buyers in korea :) . it gets a lot of hits when you search for http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/98444 . about a third of the hits are from https://www.google.im/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=23&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiVvsnuqrDQAhXK6oMKHdKdAQw4FBAWCCQwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fclien.net%2Fcs2%2Fbbs%2Fboard.php%3Fbo_table%3Dpark%26wr_id%3D50759214&usg=AFQjCNHeqyjXM_1LR6OcLeUIVcHv4Ju3XQ
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2016, 01:22:34 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/98444#comment-1291093
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 01:25:38 PM
I need a few people who were shut down who are willing to talk to the AP.
They're going to write an article on this and go to Google for a response. Could be a big break.
PM if you're interested.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shmuels2 on November 17, 2016, 01:31:41 PM
I need a few people who were shut down who are willing to talk to the AP.
They're going to write an article on this and go to Google for a response. Could be a big break.
PM if you're interested.

I'd prefer not to go on record with name etc. but if we have a hard time finding people willing I'd consider it.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: aygart on November 17, 2016, 01:33:11 PM
I need a few people who were shut down who are willing to talk to the AP.
They're going to write an article on this and go to Google for a response. Could be a big break.
PM if you're interested.
you need to be careful because there is no way of knowing how they will report it.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 01:33:24 PM
I'd prefer not to go on record with name etc. but if we have a hard time finding people willing I'd consider it.
Doesn't seem like anyone is willing to go on record and AP won't run a story without firsthand collaboration.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 01:35:17 PM
you need to be careful because there is no way of knowing how they will report it.
The AP rep seemed very sympathetic to the cause. He said he ordered a pixel himself without reading those terms and was shocked at their heavy handedness.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2016, 01:35:50 PM
Doesn't seem like anyone is willing to go on record and AP won't run a story without firsthand collaboration.

They won't agree not to publish last name?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shmuels2 on November 17, 2016, 01:36:51 PM
Doesn't seem like anyone is willing to go on record and AP won't run a story without firsthand collaboration.

Think they'll mind/is it unethical to use an assumed name?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 01:37:53 PM
They won't agree not to publish last name?
They might. I'll pass along your info and see what they say.

Think they'll mind/is it unethical to use an assumed name?
That's a terrible idea.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 01:38:20 PM
Doesn't seem like anyone is willing to go on record and AP won't run a story without firsthand collaboration.

Corroboration.

Will dealer speak to AP?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 17, 2016, 01:40:32 PM
Corroboration.

Will dealer speak to AP?
You wouldn't? Not many people involved that have a firm grasp of legal issues and could speak as lucidly as you could.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 01:41:42 PM
Corroboration.

Will dealer speak to AP?
+1 if this thing blows up, (which is the intended goal here), then dealer will find himself in the news anyway
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 17, 2016, 01:44:54 PM
I'm surprised nobody is willing to go on record, this is your biggest opportunity to get this resolved, once the AP picks it up, it'll be everywhere.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 01:47:37 PM
I'm surprised nobody is willing to go on record, this is your biggest opportunity to get this resolved, once the AP picks it up, it'll be everywhere.
+1
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Yehuda57 on November 17, 2016, 01:51:40 PM
There are people who are not on DDF who this affected. I know of one who I am sending this to to see if he'll go on record - but perhaps if the dealer sent out an email some people would come forward.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2016, 01:52:06 PM
+1
Maybe give it some time.  Some of the victims don't seem to be around.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 17, 2016, 01:57:38 PM
I would do it, I'm just a little hesitant about my last name being published...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: lubaby on November 17, 2016, 01:57:57 PM
There are people who are not on DDF who this affected. I know of one who I am sending this to to see if he'll go on record - but perhaps if the dealer sent out an email some people would come forward.
LOL
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 17, 2016, 02:02:10 PM
You guys are all assuming Google is not loving this.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eliraps on November 17, 2016, 02:02:41 PM
There are people who are not on DDF who this affected. I know of one who I am sending this to to see if he'll go on record - but perhaps if the dealer sent out an email some people would come forward.
LOL
Goes to show how deeply our dependence on email is ingrained in our psyche
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eliraps on November 17, 2016, 02:03:10 PM
You wouldn't? Not many people involved that have a firm grasp of legal issues and could speak as lucidly as you could.
+100
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Yehuda57 on November 17, 2016, 02:05:42 PM
LOL
I'm feeling super smart.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 02:07:18 PM
You guys are all assuming Google is not loving this.
I'd still bet it's a rogue algorithm and not human eyes.
I don't see how this could be good for Google.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Sport on November 17, 2016, 02:09:55 PM
You guys are all assuming Google is not loving this.
No. Im at about 75/25.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 02:11:56 PM
AP needs at least 1 more person to go on the record before they'll publish the story.
PM me...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 17, 2016, 02:15:34 PM
AP needs at least 1 more person to go on the record before they'll publish the story.
PM me...
Guys this is a great opportunity, you get to have Dan respond to your PM's
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eliraps on November 17, 2016, 02:16:33 PM
Cant wait to be tweeting #the power of dansdeals!
Next thing you know Dan will be running for Whitehouse 2020 ;D
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 17, 2016, 02:17:40 PM
AP needs at least 1 more person to go on the record before they'll publish the story.
PM me...
how many they want?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 02:42:20 PM
http://ekstrabladet.dk/kup/elektronik/teknologi/googles-digitale-haevn-smider-100-vis-af-brugere-paa-gaden/6410518
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eliraps on November 17, 2016, 02:45:16 PM
http://ekstrabladet.dk/kup/elektronik/teknologi/googles-digitale-haevn-smider-100-vis-af-brugere-paa-gaden/6410518
who is in charge of updating wiki?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on November 17, 2016, 02:45:49 PM
who is in charge of updating wiki?
Google
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 02:45:51 PM
who is in charge of updating wiki?
An oxymoron to the very definition of wiki
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 17, 2016, 02:47:05 PM
Google
then they will ban it ;)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dr Moose on November 17, 2016, 02:48:18 PM
Google
I find it ironic that we're using Google to find news outlets that are discussing this.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 17, 2016, 02:50:33 PM
I find it ironic that we're using Google to find news outlets that are discussing this.
you would think they would control it as they allegedly did with elections ..
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: gingyguy on November 17, 2016, 02:51:38 PM
http://ekstrabladet.dk/kup/elektronik/teknologi/googles-digitale-haevn-smider-100-vis-af-brugere-paa-gaden/6410518
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 02:52:40 PM
I find it ironic that we're using Google to find news outlets that are discussing this.
-1 I'm using bing
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 17, 2016, 02:53:48 PM
I find it ironic that we're using Google to find news outlets that are discussing this.

JJ is updating the wiki, so I suppose he is using incoming referral links to figure out who's sending traffic.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: elibeli2 on November 17, 2016, 03:10:40 PM
Is there anyone else who can confirm that google shut down their account just by being associated with a account which ordered the phones even though that account did not?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 04:05:08 PM
http://www.pcmag.com/news/349675/resell-your-google-pixel-get-locked-out-of-your-account
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 17, 2016, 04:19:01 PM
http://www.pcmag.com/news/349675/resell-your-google-pixel-get-locked-out-of-your-account
"More than 200 Pixel phones shipped by buyers to a dealer in New Hampshire have been bricked by Google." Catchy but not true, I don't think the phones themselves had any issues.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 17, 2016, 04:22:35 PM
"More than 200 Pixel phones shipped by buyers to a dealer in New Hampshire have been bricked by Google." Catchy but not true, I don't think the phones themselves had any issues.

As far as we know? Unless you have heard reports from the buyer....
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: CZ60 on November 17, 2016, 04:56:09 PM
+1 if this thing blows up, (which is the intended goal here), then dealer will find himself in the news anyway

Maybe they want this to blow up to get to the dealer...  ??? ???
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: grodnoking on November 17, 2016, 04:58:15 PM
Maybe they want this to blow up to get to the dealer...  ??? ???
I'm pretty sure they have his shipping address. Not sure Google would need more than that to find someone.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eliraps on November 17, 2016, 05:05:53 PM
@Dan, did you find enough people to get to AP?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 05:15:12 PM
I'm pretty sure they have his shipping address. Not sure Google would need more than that to find someone.
+1
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 05:17:02 PM
@Dan, did you find enough people to get to AP?
I'm not sure.
They really wanted to speak with the dealer, but I'm not sure if that's gonna happen either.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 05:29:15 PM
Pressure is building on Google.
I'd bet they will do the right thing and release accounts that weren't just made for this promo.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: elibeli2 on November 17, 2016, 05:29:54 PM
Pressure is building on Google.

Says who?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: high end hobo on November 17, 2016, 05:30:29 PM
Pressure is building on Google.
I'd bet they will do the right thing and release accounts that weren't just made for this promo.
Amazing how much affect DD can have even for something that isn't CC/Travel/Deal Related
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 17, 2016, 05:31:54 PM
Amazing how much affect DD can have even for something that isn't CC/Travel/Deal Related
#DDFeffect
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 05:32:05 PM
Says who?
Talking to some major tech blogs. This is not the publicity Google likes.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 05:41:20 PM
http://www.sogotechnews.com/2016/11/17/google-goes-after-pixel-resellers-by-locking-their-accounts/
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 17, 2016, 05:46:55 PM
http://www.sogotechnews.com/2016/11/17/google-goes-after-pixel-resellers-by-locking-their-accounts/

Taken from Engadget (way bigger)
https://www.engadget.com/2016/11/17/google-blocks-pixel-phone-resellers/
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Welder on November 17, 2016, 05:47:47 PM
http://www.sogotechnews.com/2016/11/17/google-goes-after-pixel-resellers-by-locking-their-accounts/

Why is this the DDF link in the article (and Engadget)?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=68066.435
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 05:55:53 PM
http://www.slashgear.com/pixel-phone-flipping-scheme-googles-statement-on-a-ban-hammer-17464528/


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 05:56:18 PM
Hallelujah!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 17, 2016, 05:58:31 PM
“Many of the accounts suspended were created for the sole purpose of this scheme,” said Google, “But since some customers were not aware of these Terms of Sale and are now locked out of many Google services they rely on, we’re restoring access to these customers’ accounts.”
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 17, 2016, 05:59:54 PM
http://www.slashgear.com/pixel-phone-flipping-scheme-googles-statement-on-a-ban-hammer-17464528/


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The article looks like it was written by an advanced AI program
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mochjas on November 17, 2016, 06:00:12 PM
Wow! Great job Dan!!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 06:00:55 PM
http://www.slashgear.com/pixel-phone-flipping-scheme-googles-statement-on-a-ban-hammer-17464528/


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

google responds!! I was in middle of posting this when I got the "there is new activity in this thread..." lol
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JoeyShmoe on November 17, 2016, 06:01:49 PM
http://www.slashgear.com/pixel-phone-flipping-scheme-googles-statement-on-a-ban-hammer-17464528/


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice job!!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 06:02:08 PM
Anyone able to access yet?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 17, 2016, 06:03:37 PM
Anyone able to access yet?

not yet...now the waiting begins (to see who got the cut and will be getting their e-mail back)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 06:04:49 PM
I certainly didn't create a Gmail account for this (nor was I aware it was a violation of the Terms), so I'm praying that I'm good.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bermo on November 17, 2016, 06:05:01 PM
http://www.slashgear.com/pixel-phone-flipping-scheme-googles-statement-on-a-ban-hammer-17464528/


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you Dan
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: elibeli2 on November 17, 2016, 06:05:34 PM
Wow! Mazal Tov!

The power of dan!

Hashtag?
#superdan
#dantotherescue
#don'tmesswithdan
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2016, 06:05:54 PM
Why would Google release their statement through someone who writes like this?

Quote
While no parties involved are pleased with the outcome of this situation, Google’s attention to detail when it comes to reactivating customer accounts will be crucial. Google’s system finding hundreds (at least hundreds) of accounts shipping Pixel phones to one address meant there was hell to pay. Whether or not all the real humans in this conglomeration were entirely guilty of a ToS crime might be a different matter.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 17, 2016, 06:10:22 PM
Why would Google release their statement through someone who writes like this?
I was wondering the same thing, it seems strange that they're the first ones who got a statement out of Google.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mochjas on November 17, 2016, 06:10:49 PM
Wow! Mazal Tov!

The power of dan!

Hashtag?
#superdan
#dantotherescue
#don'tmesswithdan
i don't think hashtags can have apostrophe's
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 17, 2016, 06:11:37 PM
Wow! Thank you Dan
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 06:12:19 PM
I was wondering the same thing, it seems strange that they're the first ones who got a statement out of Google.
+1 it is strange. Most other sites write that they reached out to Google and are awaiting a response. Their first post was about the response...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 17, 2016, 06:13:37 PM
+1 it is strange. Most other sites write that they reached out to Google and are awaiting a response. Their first post was about the response...
And why would they get a response when there are much bigger websites that asked including the original website that reported it?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 06:15:08 PM
Should I update the post or wait for more confirmation or accounts to be restored?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 17, 2016, 06:16:14 PM
Should I update the post or wait for more confirmation or accounts to be restored?

Definitely say wait (at least for more confirmation)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 17, 2016, 06:16:29 PM
Should I update the post or wait for more confirmation or accounts to be restored?
wait
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: elibeli2 on November 17, 2016, 06:16:51 PM
Should I update the post or wait for more confirmation or accounts to be restored?

I say wait. Especially there is a good chance it's not a real response from Google.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2016, 06:17:35 PM
More from SlashGear

Quote
A graduate of National University of Singapore, Kim Poh runs in the tunnel of news overload to assist the editorial team on finding scoops. He resides in a beautiful country of Singapore.

I would wait for confirmation from a more reputable source.  I hate to throw rain on the party :(
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 17, 2016, 06:18:29 PM
Definitely wait
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 17, 2016, 06:18:43 PM
I say wait. Especially there is a good chance it's not a real response from Google.
What does the website gain by making up a response?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 06:18:58 PM
Minneapolis star tribune http://www.startribune.com/google-hits-pixel-resellers-with-digital-death-sentence/401779055/

it was posted somewhere that people got $5 a piece? because thats what they're reporting. must be the people who spoke to AP
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: EP123 on November 17, 2016, 06:19:09 PM
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#tbs=qdr:h&q=google+statement+pixel

AP ran it. Its everywhere
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2016, 06:20:22 PM
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#tbs=qdr:h&q=google+statement+pixel

AP ran it. Its everywhere

Well done Dan!  Amazing work!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eliraps on November 17, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
Cant wait to be tweeting #the power of dansdeals!
Next thing you know Dan will be running for Whitehouse 2020 ;D
Woohoo!
Lchaim Dan
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Something Fishy on November 17, 2016, 06:21:50 PM
Should I update the post or wait for more confirmation or accounts to be restored?

Don't post anything until you have an official statement from Google.

Giving a statement to one site before releasing a general statement is highly unusual. That's not how these things operate.

The fact that everyone carries it is irrelevant if they all got it form the same unofficial source.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2016, 06:23:47 PM
Don't post anything until you have an official statement from Google.

Giving a statement to one site before releasing a general statement is highly unusual. That's not how these things operate.

The AP said

Quote
In a Thursday statement, Google described the reselling arrangement as a "scheme," but promised to restore the accounts of customers who it believes were unaware of its Pixel policies.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 06:24:14 PM
Don't post anything until you have an official statement from Google.

Giving a statement to one site before releasing a general statement is highly unusual. That's not how these things operate.

The fact that everyone carries it is irrelevant if they all got it form the same unofficial source.

The AP ran it. Good as gold.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: SSuper on November 17, 2016, 06:25:11 PM
Consumerist are also reporting they received this statement from Google. They are much more reliable site. It seems Google has sent this statement to all those who reached out fro comment.

https://consumerist.com/2016/11/17/is-google-shutting-down-the-accounts-of-users-who-resell-their-pixel-phones/

"We reached out to Google for comment and more information regarding whether or not Pixel buyers are warned that their accounts may be blocked if they resell the devices. A Google spokesperson told Consumerist in an emailed statement that the company had identified “a scheme in which consumers were asked to purchase Pixel devices on behalf of a reseller, who then marked-up the cost of those devices in order to resell them to other customers.”

Google is willing to take pity on some of those folks who are locked out, but not all.

“We prohibit the commercial resale of devices purchased through Project Fi or the Google Store so everyone has an equal opportunity to purchase devices at a fair price,” the rep added. “Many of the accounts suspended were created for the sole purpose of this scheme, but since some customers were not aware of these Terms of Sale and are now locked out of many Google services they rely on, we’re restoring access to these customers’ accounts.”"
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Something Fishy on November 17, 2016, 06:26:24 PM
Without a link to an official source it doesn't matter who ran it.

It's gotta come from the horse's mouth, most likely here:

https://www.google.com/press/
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 17, 2016, 06:26:45 PM
https://www.apnews.com/71365f150a4247eeaaa1bd7721bb1b05/Google-hits-Pixel-resellers-with-'digital-death-sentence'
AP also has Google's statement
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2016, 06:26:57 PM
$5!?!?!?!  Oy
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 06:28:05 PM
Without a link to an official source it doesn't matter who ran it.

It's gotta come from the horse's mouth, most likely here:

https://www.google.com/press/

Come on... they're all quoting the same Google response. Consumerist, AP, etc don't make stuff up.  That'd be worse for them then it was for Google to go around digitally murdering folks :)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: elit on November 17, 2016, 06:31:49 PM
No HT to Dan in AP story??
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Moe Ginsburg on November 17, 2016, 06:32:29 PM
The AP is the only media outlet that failed to credit/cite Dan's Deals in their article.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Something Fishy on November 17, 2016, 06:32:50 PM
Come on... they're all quoting the same Google response. Consumerist, AP, etc don't make stuff up.  That'd be worse for them then it was for Google to go around digitally murdering folks :)

I'm not saying they're making anything up, I'm saying that their source may not be an official one.

Anyone in any company could make a statement; that doesn't mean it holds water. It needs to be an official statement from Google, whether from their Press office, comms director, and so on.

I do exactly this for my company; I've been watching this the entire day from Google's perspective.

Every big company has a process in place for a situation like this and they drill constantly; they don't just "wing it". And the core of any crisis plan is always the same: until an official statement is released to the general media nothing is official.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 06:34:24 PM
I'm not saying they're making anything up, I'm saying that their source may not be an official one.

Anyone in any company could make a statement; that doesn't mean it holds water. It needs to be an official statement from Google, whether from their Press office, comms director, and so on.

I do exactly this for my company; I've been watching this the entire day from Google's perspective.

Every big company has a process in place for a situation like this and they drill constantly; they don't just "wing it". And the core of any crisis plan is always the same: until an official statement is released to the general media nothing is official.

You don't think the AP vets emails it gets?  The same person/department who AP emailed earlier, emailed them back, and you can be certain it came from the press office, etc.

AP didn't take a random email from an @Google address, hinge its reputation on it, and post the story.

Take it to the bank.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 06:34:41 PM
I'm glad I could help guys :)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2016, 06:36:15 PM
Where's the thread about how Dan is a selfish snob who uses us and only cares about his own enrichment?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 17, 2016, 06:37:32 PM
Where's the thread about how Dan is a selfish snob who uses us and only cares about his own enrichment?
FD thread?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bortunkm on November 17, 2016, 06:39:11 PM
I'm glad I could help guys :)


This is more exciting than the elections! Dan, thanks so much for getting the media involved. Hopefully my account will be restored soon.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Something Fishy on November 17, 2016, 06:41:21 PM
You don't think the AP vets emails it gets?  The same person/department who AP emailed earlier, emailed them back, and you can be certain it came from the press office, etc.

AP didn't take a random email from an @Google address, hinge its reputation on it, and post the story.

Take it to the bank.

You're most likely right. But Dan l posting that everything's perfectly perfect again without an official statement from Google could come back to bite him.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Something Fishy on November 17, 2016, 06:43:05 PM
Also, Google is perfectly aware that Dan is what started this entire firestorm. If the statement is true, then the fact that he hasn't gotten it is beyond belief.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 06:43:27 PM
Also, Google is perfectly aware that Dan is what started this entire firestorm. If the statement is true, then the fact that he hasn't gotten it is beyond belief.


...Dan didn't reach out to Google AFAIK.

Also, Dan, despite being the Dan, is not AP.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 17, 2016, 06:43:32 PM
You're most likely right. But Dan l posting that everything's perfectly perfect again without an official statement from Google could come back to bite him.
Agree
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 06:44:17 PM
No HT to Dan in AP story??
The AP is the only media outlet that failed to credit/cite Dan's Deals in their article.
Stinks, but
(http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21201.0;attach=3728;image)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Moe Ginsburg on November 17, 2016, 06:44:55 PM
Dan, it's probably safe now to update the story on DDMS.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Something Fishy on November 17, 2016, 06:47:53 PM
...Dan didn't reach out to Google AFAIK.

I'd be surprised if he didn't...

Also, Dan, despite being the Dan, is not AP.

A statement gets carpet bombed on everyone who may even have a slight interest in the story.

That, and the fact that you put out a fire at its source.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 06:50:08 PM
Google sent me a statement, posting now.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Yehuda25 on November 17, 2016, 06:50:28 PM
Google sent me a statement, posting now.
cool ;D
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 17, 2016, 06:52:02 PM
Google sent me a statement, posting now.
WOW
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 17, 2016, 06:52:49 PM
I'd be surprised if he didn't...

A statement gets carpet bombed on everyone who may even have a slight interest in the story.

That, and the fact that you put out a fire at its source.

You really think google didn't release any statement in the past 2+ weeks?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bortunkm on November 17, 2016, 06:54:06 PM
actuary mistake on post. should be actually
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shmuels2 on November 17, 2016, 06:55:04 PM
I'm glad I could help guys :)

Huge thank you Dan for everything you did on our behalf. I was gonna post thanks regardless of how it turned out but figured I'd see how it plays out.

We owe you Dan, and what a great win all around!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2016, 06:55:30 PM
Google sent me a statement, posting now.

what address did it come from?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Baruch on November 17, 2016, 06:56:00 PM
Stinks, but
(http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21201.0;attach=3728;image)
contact the AP rep that you spoke to and demand they credit you. That's how it works. Chutzpah!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: aygart on November 17, 2016, 06:58:52 PM
contact the AP rep that you spoke to and demand they credit you. That's how it works. Chutzpah!
+1
It is plagiarism
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 06:58:58 PM
contact the AP rep that you spoke to and demand they credit you. That's how it works. Chutzpah!
Done :)
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/google-hits-pixel-resellers-digital-death-sentence-43619481
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bortunkm on November 17, 2016, 07:00:27 PM
GOOD STUFF!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Sport on November 17, 2016, 07:06:19 PM
@dan kudos for taking on this cause.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: elit on November 17, 2016, 07:08:37 PM
Done :)
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/google-hits-pixel-resellers-digital-death-sentence-43619481
Nice!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 07:09:14 PM
We have succesfully tested the #DDFeffect . All guinea pigs can go home now
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Something Fishy on November 17, 2016, 07:10:36 PM
Google sent me a statement, posting now.

Boom.

Coming from xxxxxx@google.com, "Senior Director of Corporate Communications at Google".
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 07:15:19 PM
Boom.

Coming from xxxxxx@google.com, "Senior Director of Corporate Communications at Google".

...and you think that AP had to worry about that, despite it not coming as a "press release??"
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 17, 2016, 07:16:07 PM
Great job, Dan. Congratulations.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 17, 2016, 07:18:38 PM
Great job, Dan. Congratulations.
+1
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Something Fishy on November 17, 2016, 07:18:44 PM
...and you think that AP had to worry about that, despite it not coming as a "press release??"

I never said it had to be a press release. I said it has to be an official Google statement.

It needs to be an official statement from Google, whether from their Press office, comms director, and so on.

And we had no idea who AP's source was. Now we do.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: zh cohen on November 17, 2016, 07:22:47 PM
Thank you Dan!

And thank you to those who spoke to AP.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 07:24:22 PM
I never said it had to be a press release. I said it has to be an official Google statement.

And we had no idea who AP's source was. Now we do.
My point was that the fact that AP and Consumerist both posted, meant that the source was reliable, notwithstanding the absence of a press release.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Something Fishy on November 17, 2016, 07:27:36 PM
My point was that the fact that AP and Consumerist both posted, meant that the source was reliable, notwithstanding the absence of a press release.

And my point was while that is likely correct, Dan should wait for something official. Which turned out not long in coming.

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: grodnoking on November 17, 2016, 07:28:28 PM
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#tbs=qdr:h&q=google+statement+pixel

AP ran it. Its everywhere
Wow! Fox, yahoo, ABC...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 07:28:33 PM
AP *is* official... Enough. Lol.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Something Fishy on November 17, 2016, 07:29:12 PM
AP *is* official... Enough. Lol.

Oy ;D.

We could go on like this all night.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Sport on November 17, 2016, 07:31:36 PM
Wow! Fox, yahoo, ABC...
Top hit when you search pixel...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eis517 on November 17, 2016, 07:33:00 PM
perhaps this was mentioned upthread, but according to the ABC article, the sellers did it for $5. Is that correct? That does not seem worth the time ordering the phone, let alone all this trouble with Google.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: grodnoking on November 17, 2016, 07:35:04 PM
perhaps this was mentioned upthread, but according to the ABC article, the sellers did it for $5. Is that correct? That does not seem worth the time ordering the phone, let alone all this trouble with Google.

Thoughts?
$650 x 6 in CC points and meeting minimum spend is worth more.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eis517 on November 17, 2016, 07:37:03 PM
ah got ya. Didn't realize they ordered 6 of them.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: lechatchileh ariber on November 17, 2016, 07:39:43 PM
Anyone read the updated Uber t&c? :D
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 07:53:54 PM
Anyone read the updated Uber t&c? :D

Can't commercially resell Uber drivers to people in NH?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 07:55:10 PM
I'm in!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmb on November 17, 2016, 07:55:27 PM
I just got access back to my account!!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shulem92 on November 17, 2016, 07:55:30 PM
I'm in!
Yay!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on November 17, 2016, 07:56:48 PM
I'm in!
Wow
I just got access back to my account!!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shmuels2 on November 17, 2016, 07:57:53 PM
I just got access back to my account!!

Ditto
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: grodnoking on November 17, 2016, 07:58:16 PM
I'm in!
Ditto
I just got access back to my account!!
Awesome!!!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 17, 2016, 07:58:27 PM
I'm in!

I just got access back to my account!!
Me too!!!!!

Dan, we, and I personally owe it to you, and to some others who each had a small part in this.

Thanks a million!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: gingyguy on November 17, 2016, 07:58:33 PM
im back!! dont understand the point in not renistating accounts that were created specifically to buy phones.... im assuming those people couldnt care less
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: grodnoking on November 17, 2016, 07:59:20 PM
im back!! dont understand the point in not renistating accounts that were created specifically to buy phones.... im assuming those people couldnt care less
According to their statement it sounded like those accounts won't be reinstated.
I guess it was to big of a hassle to go thru them.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: grodnoking on November 17, 2016, 07:59:59 PM
Where's the celebration DO?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bermo on November 17, 2016, 08:00:36 PM
back in thanks dan!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Sport on November 17, 2016, 08:01:25 PM
So glad for those that got access back. I can't imagine how terrible it must have been to be locked out of your accounts.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Heshelmangel on November 17, 2016, 08:02:38 PM
I'm in!

+1 !!!! Amazing what this site accomplished!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 17, 2016, 08:03:40 PM
one account back (the primary) THANK YOU SO MUCH DAN!!!! still hopeful that my secondary (work) account will be brought back too
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: htg123 on November 17, 2016, 08:06:51 PM
one account back (the primary) THANK YOU SO MUCH DAN!!!! still hopeful that my secondary (work) account will be brought back too

do u get an email saying your account is back up?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Heshelmangel on November 17, 2016, 08:08:01 PM
do u get an email saying your account is back up?

Nope. Just try logging back in.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 17, 2016, 08:08:10 PM
One thing I'm having trouble understanding.
They ask for SMS verification to get back in but they ask you which number to send the text to.
Is that just to make you feel it's a security issue or are they comparing it to the number on file?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 17, 2016, 08:08:33 PM
do u get an email saying your account is back up?

my spouse did to a different e-mail (the recovery address).
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: sky121 on November 17, 2016, 08:08:33 PM
There Dan goes again...using his powers for good.

:)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mkramer on November 17, 2016, 08:08:43 PM
DP: I had an account banned that wasn't really used but I still wanted that email address. It wasn't automatically reinstated, but when I filled the disabled form again (I did it right away when it got banned but it got refused instantly) it worked about two minutes later. Thanks to all involved!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 17, 2016, 08:08:54 PM
do u get an email saying your account is back up?
I did yes. To the email address that I put in the original form.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Chevreman on November 17, 2016, 08:10:23 PM
Got into my account! Thank you dan.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 17, 2016, 08:11:27 PM
DP: I had an account banned that wasn't really used but I still wanted that email address. It wasn't automatically reinstated, but when I filled the disabled form again (I did it right away when it got banned but it got refused instantly) it worked about two minutes later. Thanks to all involved!

Did you add additional information or send blank?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on November 17, 2016, 08:12:25 PM
One thing I'm having trouble understanding.
They ask for SMS verification to get back in but they ask you which number to send the text to.
Is that just to make you feel it's a security issue or are they comparing it to the number on file?
First of all, you need the phone to get the SMS. Secondly, IIRC they only display the last 4 digits of number.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shidduch on November 17, 2016, 08:12:44 PM
1 of 3 accounts reenabled, baruch hashem.  This was the most important one.  Hopefully, the others will come soon.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mkramer on November 17, 2016, 08:16:20 PM
Did you add additional information or send blank?

I said that it was related to the recent mass bans, which were meant to be reinstated. I used non-google email as the address to be notified, but they never did notify. I just tried on my own 2 mins later.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on November 17, 2016, 08:16:37 PM
First of all, you need the phone to get the SMS. Secondly, IIRC they only display the last 4 digits of number.
They didn't show anything. I don't remember the exact wording but it was like, where do you want us to send the verification text?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Alexsei on November 17, 2016, 08:21:08 PM
Guys don't forget to do scheduled takeouts!
BTW http://gmvault.org/ is great
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Heshelmangel on November 17, 2016, 08:24:10 PM
Interesting. They are stressing in their email that you may backup and download your data at anytime using google takeout. They clearly realize that not giving access to the data was pretty extreme.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: zh cohen on November 17, 2016, 08:25:39 PM
They didn't show anything. I don't remember the exact wording but it was like, where do you want us to send the verification text?

I had a cell number associated with my account and the text went there.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Jorjito11 on November 17, 2016, 08:26:00 PM
Me too!!!!!

Dan, we, and I personally owe it to you, and to some others who each had a small part in this.

Thanks a million!

Me too.
Thanks Dan and to all commenters here & on DDMS (& twitter etc.) who helped spread the word.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2016, 08:26:25 PM
Interesting. They are stressing in their email that you may backup and download your data at anytime using google takeout. They clearly realize that not giving access to the data was pretty extreme.
Well, they do that to protect themselves in the future, too. This way they can say, "remember back when that whole thing? Yeah, you should now know better we can suspend at any time and you should have been backing up. Not our problem. Peace!"
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: bookwrm on November 17, 2016, 08:26:48 PM
i'm in x2! i e-mailed them again (using the disabled form) and got in. omg so happy! Thank you!!!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: hachover on November 17, 2016, 08:28:58 PM
Done :)
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/google-hits-pixel-resellers-digital-death-sentence-43619481

Glad the folks who felt like they wouldn't ever be able to get out of bed again are getting a reprieve here, but this was mind-numbingly blown out of proportion
Quote
"Google's slogan is 'Don't be evil,' but to me, there is nothing more evil that what Google has done here," Super said.

Nothing more evil? Get a grip
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shidduch on November 17, 2016, 08:31:51 PM
1 of 3 accounts reactivated.  THank g-d it was the most important one.  Waiting for the other 2 iyh.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: chulent613 on November 17, 2016, 08:32:17 PM
So whose making a big kiddush this shabbos?
I think next year we need to celebrate 17 cheshvon as the day Dan won over Google!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Baruch on November 17, 2016, 08:33:19 PM
Glad the folks who felt like they wouldn't ever be able to get out of bed again are getting a reprieve here, but this was mind-numbingly blown out of proportion
Nothing more evil? Get a grip
What's your point? That humans exaggerate when they're hurt? Welcome to Earth. Have some empathy.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Baruch on November 17, 2016, 08:46:26 PM
So whose making a big kiddush this shabbos?
I think next year we need to celebrate 17 cheshvon as the day Dan won over Google!
Yaz Cheshvon, #diDANnatzach :)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eliraps on November 17, 2016, 08:48:17 PM
Yaz Cheshvon, #diDANnatzach :)
Lol
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: googwallet on November 17, 2016, 09:02:07 PM
Thank you Dan and everyone that helped this go viral.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 17, 2016, 09:43:50 PM
So how does it work which accounts do they open,
The first one I tried worked then 2 more didn't
Does it have to do with the first one...?
I say trying on my phone
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: zh cohen on November 17, 2016, 09:53:45 PM
So how does it work which accounts do they open,
The first one I tried worked then 2 more didn't
Does it have to do with the first one...?
I say trying on my phone

If it doesn't unlock automatically, try filing a request, and it should work right after.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 17, 2016, 09:54:58 PM
If it doesn't unlock automatically, try filing a request, and it should work right after.
got an email that there is alredy a pending investigation..
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 17, 2016, 09:55:45 PM
And no, it didn't unlock
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 10:48:52 PM
So how does it work which accounts do they open,
The first one I tried worked then 2 more didn't
Does it have to do with the first one...?
I say trying on my phone
Did you have activity on those accounts other than buying phones?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 10:49:32 PM
Yaz Cheshvon, #diDANnatzach :)
lol
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 17, 2016, 10:50:09 PM
Did you have activity on those accounts other than buying phones?
yes, heavy usage
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eliraps on November 17, 2016, 11:45:40 PM
I'm imagining Dan's going to sleep tonight with a smile from ear to ear.  :D
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eliraps on November 17, 2016, 11:46:51 PM
Yaz Cheshvon, #diDANnatzach :)
What's the significance of this happening on the same day as the flood?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2016, 11:50:19 PM
I'm imagining Dan's going to sleep tonight with a smile from ear to ear.  :D
I posted update #2 at a friend's dinner party after enjoying a few glasses of good wine and before digging into some amazing bourbon glazed ribs.
Feels good to do good :)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eliraps on November 18, 2016, 12:03:02 AM
For all the critics of the 1000000 spg points for game seven, perhaps that contributed to the popularity of DDMS and make this go viral?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eliraps on November 18, 2016, 12:03:46 AM
I posted update #2 at a friend's dinner party after enjoying a few glasses of good wine and before digging into some amazing bourbon glazed ribs.
Feels good to do good :)
Bon appetite. Go Dan
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Moe Ginsburg on November 18, 2016, 12:43:53 AM
Guys who regained access to your previously suspended accounts -

Did you get in your inbox all the emails that bounced during the days it was suspended  - or were you missing a gap of a few days worth of emails?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: htg123 on November 18, 2016, 12:59:04 AM
Guys who regained access to your previously suspended accounts -

Did you get in your inbox all the emails that bounced during the days it was suspended  - or were you missing a gap of a few days worth of emails?

certainly all those are lost...there was a gap in my recovered account....also, i tried sending emails to the blocked email and they bounced back...probly no chance of seeing them
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: tmendy226 on November 18, 2016, 05:03:13 AM
To Dan:

8 would like to publically thank you so much for what you did! I guess you never imagined that you'll get to this when you started your blog, I'm glad for your success. Mitzva Goreres mitzva, from helping people how to save money you actually saved virtual lives :)

Go on
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: dmdmoses46 on November 18, 2016, 05:33:55 AM
My account is locked is there anybody else who is still locked out
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 18, 2016, 06:56:28 AM
My account is locked is there anybody else who is still locked out
Did you try filling out the appeal form again? Read up thread, someone reported success after writing he was part of the pixel shutdown.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dr Moose on November 18, 2016, 08:23:22 AM
Now that the dust has settled, and it seems many are able to regain access to their account, can we get the numbers of unique hits to the site yesterday?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mendy613 on November 18, 2016, 09:03:19 AM
My account is locked is there anybody else who is still locked out

Me too.
I filled out the form saying I didn't pay close enough attention to the terms and have yet to hear back.

I used a Yahoo account as recovery.

What else to do?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 18, 2016, 09:16:08 AM
If you appeal and still can't get back in by next week. And you used the account for more than just buying phones you can PM me your email address and I'll pass it along.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 18, 2016, 09:19:36 AM
Biggest traffic sources of the story are all in German now.
Judging from the comments they're far more pro-consumer than the US blogs.

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/gadgets/google-handy-digitale-todesstrafe-fuer-pixel-weiterverkaeufer-a-1121955.html

http://blog.fefe.de/?ts=a6d30fff

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 18, 2016, 09:27:34 AM
If you appeal and still can't get back in by next week. And you used the account for more than just buying phones you can PM me your email address and I'll pass it along.
are we supposed to receive a response back from the appeal?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: elit on November 18, 2016, 10:22:31 AM
Your not that big yet @dan
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 18, 2016, 10:25:26 AM
Your not that big yet @dan
Last line of:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/97809
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: elit on November 18, 2016, 10:27:39 AM
Last line of:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/97809
There's dreaming big and then there's dillusional
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 18, 2016, 10:36:38 AM
Lol, I don't expect a reply.
But I do think it's a conversation this country should be having.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JoeyShmoe on November 18, 2016, 11:06:45 AM
They're a bit late to the party, and have the story a bit backwards, but Android Central finally picked it up too...

http://www.androidcentral.com/if-you-buy-pixel-resell-it-you-may-get-your-google-account-banned
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 18, 2016, 11:21:09 AM
Biggest traffic sources of the story are all in German now.
Judging from the comments they're far more pro-consumer than the US blogs.

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/gadgets/google-handy-digitale-todesstrafe-fuer-pixel-weiterverkaeufer-a-1121955.html

http://blog.fefe.de/?ts=a6d30fff

Europe in general has far more extensive laws regarding protecting consumers from internet providers.
Imagine you were signed up for Google Fiber and got disconnected because of this?

It's becoming more obvious each day that these behemoth internet companies have way too much control over our lives.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 18, 2016, 11:37:13 AM
https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/18/google-reverses-its-digital-death-sentence-for-pixel-phone-resellers/
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/18/google-reverses-decision-ban-pixel-phone-resellers
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AJK on November 18, 2016, 11:51:44 AM
Spot on, from TC:

Quote
While it’s good to hear that the punishment no longer exceeds the crime for those involved, the larger takeaway from this situation is a stark reminder of how much of our digital lives are out of our control. With one false move, people lost access to a significant part of their digital identity and trove of personal data.

As the AP report found by speaking with those affect, these people’s lives were immediately impacted in non-trivial ways – they missed emails with confirmation numbers for their flights, couldn’t access work files or medical records, didn’t spot messages about upcoming credit card payments, and so on.

Google may be within its right to take an action – perhaps, ban violators from buying more phones? ask them to export their data and move to another provider? – but it shouldn’t have the right to completely shut off someone’s digital life instantly, with no warning.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Sport on November 18, 2016, 11:59:59 AM
Your not that big yet @dan
What did I miss ?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: elit on November 18, 2016, 12:02:16 PM
What did I miss ?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Sport on November 18, 2016, 12:08:00 PM

Lol, I don't expect a reply.
But I do think it's a conversation this country should be having.
I Don't disagree with the dream but there's a better method.
Try local congressmen first, then move your way up the ladder.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 18, 2016, 12:53:39 PM
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/11/google-bans-users-involved-in-pixel-phone-resale-scheme-later-relents

Comment: "At last, a reliable way to get rid of my Google account."
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Welder on November 18, 2016, 01:07:31 PM
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/11/google-bans-users-involved-in-pixel-phone-resale-scheme-later-relents

Comment: "At last, a reliable way to get rid of my Google account."
Ha!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Yehuda25 on November 18, 2016, 01:36:15 PM
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/11/google-bans-users-involved-in-pixel-phone-resale-scheme-later-relents

Comment: "At last, a reliable way to get rid of my Google account."
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: aro123 on November 18, 2016, 01:39:55 PM
This thread made it to front page of Google news
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 18, 2016, 01:44:32 PM
This thread made it to front page of Google news
Wow. Never thought I'd see DD cited on Google News FP.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 18, 2016, 01:45:29 PM
Link?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 18, 2016, 01:48:57 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161118/087fcf3c534a9eff4b7e09933bc74990.png)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: username on November 18, 2016, 01:51:18 PM
Suprised Matzav and YWN haven't picked it up yet. Maybe send them an email
:)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 18, 2016, 01:57:01 PM
Crazy
(https://i.gyazo.com/bc842dd1debcf443f9b79f126d7d4896.png)


(https://i.gyazo.com/4f8903722abe69066f6175f33c5b3ead.png)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: grodnoking on November 18, 2016, 01:59:54 PM
Crazy
(https://i.gyazo.com/bc842dd1debcf443f9b79f126d7d4896.png)


(https://i.gyazo.com/4f8903722abe69066f6175f33c5b3ead.png)
163 articles, not bad.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 18, 2016, 02:16:52 PM
This thread made it to front page of Google news

What's the search term you used?
Because if you typed in "google news" I wouldn't be surprised that it's at the top :)

Edit: https://news.google.com/
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: menachem_m on November 18, 2016, 02:39:43 PM
Picked up by Drudge
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: nobiggy on November 18, 2016, 02:42:22 PM
That was strange.
 I got an email from google that they are unable to reinstate my account but it let me login.
Relief at last!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Yammer on November 18, 2016, 02:47:03 PM
That was strange.
 I got an email from google that they are unable to reinstate my account but it let me login.
Relief at last!
Just make sure to backup all your stuff
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: nobiggy on November 18, 2016, 02:48:16 PM
Just make sure to backup all your stuff
I just tried to upload it to Dropbox and it keeps giving me the standard Google error page.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Sport on November 18, 2016, 03:38:03 PM
Wow. Never thought I'd see DD cited on Google News FP.

Picked up by Drudge
Just when you thought it couldn't get crazier than being on the front page of tmz...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: ckmk47 on November 19, 2016, 06:40:50 PM
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/11/google-bans-users-involved-in-pixel-phone-resale-scheme-later-relents (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/11/google-bans-users-involved-in-pixel-phone-resale-scheme-later-relents)

Comment: "At last, a reliable way to get rid of my Google account."
He had the clearest version of the story of any of the writeups I read.


Dan, congrats on the publicity!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Zalc on November 19, 2016, 08:15:43 PM
He had the clearest version of the story of any of the writeups I read.


Dan, congrats on the publicity!
Yup.
Ars is usually far better then most.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2016, 08:18:41 PM
And winner of the worst article goes to:
http://gizmodo.com/google-bans-hundreds-of-accounts-for-participating-in-p-1789155619
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 19, 2016, 08:23:44 PM
And winner of the worst article goes to:
http://gizmodo.com/google-bans-hundreds-of-accounts-for-participating-in-p-1789155619
I'm not even sure if anything they said is accurate
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2016, 08:27:09 PM
I'm not even sure if anything they said is accurate
Fixed now.
Shmucks.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 19, 2016, 08:27:11 PM
And winner of the worst article goes to:
http://gizmodo.com/google-bans-hundreds-of-accounts-for-participating-in-p-1789155619
That article painted DD in a really bad light.
I'm not even sure if anything they said is accurate
+1
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 19, 2016, 08:28:40 PM
Fixed now.
Shmucks.
It seemed like they didn't even do any research into what actually happened.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on November 19, 2016, 08:29:20 PM
Yup.
Ars is usually far better then most.

It's why I suggested them from the beginning.
One of the few sites that actually bother to understand what they're writing about.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AsherO on November 19, 2016, 08:33:04 PM
Wow. Never thought I'd see DD cited on Google News FP.

Congrats Dan, DD/DDF is on a roll!

On a side note, anyone lose the use of their main phone number via GV? Nix that, I see it was asked already.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2016, 08:35:56 PM
The worst of the worst. Shameful journalism.
Post if you find more.

(https://i.gyazo.com/b5a46c8a332b7ce95a145cc212c5ac3d.png)


(https://i.gyazo.com/80ae0d3cab3a470971f8f3b3d61ca224.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/ad72928e9c35b144c9ede58d170c1a38.png)

(https://i.gyazo.com/d082b1838a5124cf8726d399bd0aa1e5.png)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AsherO on November 19, 2016, 08:38:00 PM
The worst of the worst. Shameful journalism.

The various sites' headlines in covering such stories (whether it's a Google, Apple, or Facebook story) shows you their bias.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 19, 2016, 08:46:10 PM
The worst of the worst. Shameful journalism.
Post if you find more.

(https://i.gyazo.com/b5a46c8a332b7ce95a145cc212c5ac3d.png)


i didnt know you recommended ppl order to NH
actualy i think it was just the opposite ...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 19, 2016, 08:49:51 PM
i didnt know you recommended ppl order to NH
actualy i think it was just the opposite ...
Dan didn't tell anybody to do anything, there weren't any posts on DDMS about this at all.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 19, 2016, 08:51:00 PM
Dan didn't tell anybody to do anything, there weren't any posts on DDMS about this at all.
yup, but not according to those websites
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AsherO on November 19, 2016, 08:53:59 PM
The worst of the worst. Shameful journalism.
Post if you find more.

Now I read those other posts you quoted, are you going to ask them to revise their blog posts? Disgusting defamation.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2016, 08:55:50 PM
Now I read those other posts you quoted, are you going to ask them to revise their blog posts? Disgusting defamation.
I did and they have corrected them.

Who needs fancy lawyers anyway ;)
(https://i.gyazo.com/9e5a08dfd3b88bb91206242b83761c56.png)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: AsherO on November 19, 2016, 08:58:22 PM
Who needs layers anyway ;)

We keep them around for when we have no-one to join us for island hopping :)

Gizmodo's "apology" is a joke:

Quote
Correction 11/19/16: This article incorrectly identified Dan’s Deals as a reseller. It is a money-saving blog.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2016, 08:58:58 PM
We keep them around for when we have no-one to join us for island hopping :)
ALOL

Gizmodo's "apology" is a joke:
Indeed.
#ImWithPeter
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 19, 2016, 09:00:24 PM
I did and they have corrected them.

Who needs fancy lawyers anyway ;)
(https://i.gyazo.com/9e5a08dfd3b88bb91206242b83761c56.png)

link?
Title: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on November 19, 2016, 09:03:51 PM

link?
Uh, his email?
ETA: you meant the website didn't you http://gizmodo.com/google-bans-hundreds-of-accounts-for-participating-in-p-1789155619
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 19, 2016, 09:09:37 PM
Uh, his email?
ETA: you meant the website didn't you http://gizmodo.com/google-bans-hundreds-of-accounts-for-participating-in-p-1789155619
yes,
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: shidduch on November 20, 2016, 08:27:37 PM
Has anyone gotten more accounts reopened since the initial batch from the night of the articles.  I still have 2 accounts that arent open.

thanks
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 20, 2016, 08:28:52 PM
Has anyone gotten more accounts reopened since the initial batch from the night of the articles.  I still have 2 accounts that arent open.

thanks
If it's a legit account, send info to dan@dansdeals.com, and he'll help you out.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2016, 02:10:47 PM
If it's a legit account, send info to dan@dansdeals.com, and he'll help you out.
Done and done :)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 21, 2016, 02:12:46 PM
Im still out of 4 accounts, should I wait or email you?
I only submitted a form for one of them...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on November 21, 2016, 02:12:53 PM
Done and done :)

תזקו למצוות
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2016, 02:14:36 PM
Im still out of 4 accounts, should I wait or email you?
I only submitted a form for one of them...
Submit the form first.
If they are legit older accounts that were all used beforehand you can email me.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eliraps on November 21, 2016, 03:03:37 PM
Done and done :)
If I may ask, what do you do to get them opened? You have a contact at Google?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2016, 03:04:09 PM
I do now :)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: eliraps on November 21, 2016, 03:05:39 PM
I do now :)
:)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Baruch on November 21, 2016, 03:09:29 PM
I do now :)
You're so powerful, people are starting to tell Benny Friedman that he looks like you  ;D
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: lubaby on November 21, 2016, 03:10:39 PM
You're so powerful, people are starting to tell Benny Friedman that he looks like you  ;D
I thought I recognized Benny on the front page of TMZ a few weeks back.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2016, 03:11:18 PM
You're so powerful, people are starting to tell Benny Friedman that he looks like you  ;D
Erm, that's how the joke started :D
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 21, 2016, 03:11:59 PM
Submit the form first.
If they are legit older accounts that were all used beforehand you can email me.
just submitted, how long should i give it ?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2016, 03:12:34 PM
They will tell you the results.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 21, 2016, 03:15:09 PM
They will tell you the results.
one account i haven't heard back, it's been a few days already
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: benjie1305 on November 21, 2016, 10:51:05 PM
Biggest traffic sources of the story are all in German now.
Judging from the comments they're far more pro-consumer than the US blogs.

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/gadgets/google-handy-digitale-todesstrafe-fuer-pixel-weiterverkaeufer-a-1121955.html


Der Spiegel's comments are actually not pro-consumer. While some comments stress the trust and sweat poured into "the cloud" and giving it too much power in general the comments focusing on the actual story don't think there was anything wrong in de-activating the accounts.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: travel-ing on November 23, 2016, 05:02:00 PM
is a pixel from verizon allowed to be sold?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: HowYaDoin on November 23, 2016, 05:56:30 PM
is a pixel from verizon allowed to be sold?
only if it isn't being delivered to New Hampshire first  ::)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 24, 2016, 01:11:20 AM
Anyone else still locked out of accounts?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on November 24, 2016, 01:37:34 AM
Anyone else still locked out of accounts?
How old is the account?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 24, 2016, 08:46:20 AM
How old is the account?
over a year old each
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on November 27, 2016, 02:46:18 AM
Anyone else still locked out of accounts?
Yes. Still locked out of a few. All couple years old. Submitted but no response.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 27, 2016, 02:50:08 AM
Worth submitting again?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on November 27, 2016, 04:02:21 AM
Worth submitting again?
Submitted at least 3 times for one of the accounts (created ~5 years ago), yet nothing...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on November 29, 2016, 12:02:09 PM
If they are legit older accounts that were all used beforehand you can email me.
Emailed you twice, Dan. Legit, old accounts... How do i followup? TIA
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 29, 2016, 12:53:16 PM
Emailed you twice, Dan. Legit, old accounts... How do i followup? TIA
Sent to Google this morning.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 29, 2016, 12:55:29 PM
Sent to Google this morning.
mine as well?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on November 29, 2016, 12:56:40 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Mplace on November 29, 2016, 12:58:38 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on November 29, 2016, 08:39:37 PM
Sent to Google this morning.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on December 07, 2016, 01:37:57 AM
Sent to Google this morning.
Nothing doing. Accounts still disabled. All legit accounts. Please revise your post where you write:
Update #2, 11/17 at 8pm: Google has reactivated the suspended accounts!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on December 11, 2016, 03:43:17 AM
I've submitted numerous requests about my shuttered accounts, yet nothing. Dan, can you pls update your article to properly reflect the facts that Google's reopening of accounts is purely whimsical by nature. Tnx!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on December 11, 2016, 09:11:39 AM
Update: They reopened hundreds of people's accounts but missed 3 people's that made orders from several accounts each?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on December 11, 2016, 09:35:05 AM
Update: They reopened hundreds of people's accounts but missed 3 people's that didn't understand PGFHGS?
FTFY  :)
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on December 11, 2016, 11:49:03 PM
Update: They reopened hundreds of people's accounts but missed 3 people's that made orders from several accounts each?
Seriously? 
For argument's sake lets say you're assumptions are correct, does that still not fly in the face of their publically issued statement that they will be reopening all accounts not opened for the sole purpose of phone purchases? Or did i miss the "3 persons" exclusion?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on December 12, 2016, 04:49:21 AM
Seriously? 
For argument's sake lets say you're assumptions are correct, does that still not fly in the face of their publically issued statement that they will be reopening all accounts not opened for the sole purpose of phone purchases? Or did i miss the "3 persons" exclusion?
Don't be aggressive. If I had to decide in this particular story if Dan is trying to be A. Helpful or B. A PITA, I would choose the prior. Don't repeatedly berate him on how he's reporting the story.

Just my .02¢
/End rant
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on December 12, 2016, 08:47:05 AM
Don't be aggressive. If I had to decide in this particular story if Dan is trying to be A. Helpful or B. A PITA, I would choose the prior. Don't repeatedly berate him on how he's reporting the story.

Just my .02¢
/End rant
No good deed goes unpunished.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on December 12, 2016, 11:44:38 AM
Don't be aggressive. If I had to decide in this particular story if Dan is trying to be A. Helpful or B. A PITA, I would choose the prior. Don't repeatedly berate him on how he's reporting the story.

Just my .02¢
/End rant
That must be real easy to say for someone whose accounts have been reopened...
So pray do tell, how would you react if you keep getting shot down after numerous requests to have your accounts reopened yet the Dansdeals article (which, we saw, can affect change on Google) reports the story as if all is hunky dory?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on December 12, 2016, 12:01:49 PM
That must be real easy to say for someone whose accounts have been reopened...
So pray do tell, how would you react if you keep getting shot down after numerous requests to have your accounts reopened yet the Dansdeals article (which, we saw, can affect change on Google) reports the story as if all is hunky dory?
Updating the post note won't help anything, it's all blown over by now.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on December 12, 2016, 12:02:43 PM
That must be real easy to say for someone whose accounts have been reopened...
So pray do tell, how would you react if you keep getting shot down after numerous requests to have your accounts reopened yet the Dansdeals article (which, we saw, can affect change on Google) reports the story as if all is hunky dory?
I wouldn't attack Dan for 2 reasons. A. Out of gratefulness for all he's done for the DD community. B. I don't feel that AP will pick up a change to the DDF post because 2 people haven't had their accounts reopened.
Although after putting myself in your shoes I probably should've been more considerate than I was when I woke up at 4am.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on December 12, 2016, 12:49:29 PM
Updating the post note won't help anything, it's all blown over by now.
Does it hurt to try?

I wouldn't attack Dan for 2 reasons. A. Out of gratefulness for all he's done for the DD community.
I am, in no way, attacking Dan. I hope i didnt come across that way. I also never said he wasnt helpful (although after hesitating a bit). All im saying is that i just cant wrap my head around why he would refuse to update his article. Forget the "helping another yid" aspect. Do it for the sake of basic journalistic integrity (a domain into which Dan has forayed, willingly or not, when reporting on this story). עשה למענך אם לא למעננו... Is this that difficult to understand or am i missing something?

B. I don't feel that AP will pick up a change to the DDF post because 2 people haven't had their accounts reopened.
May i ask where you're getting your numbers from? We've been told this closure has affected over 200 people yet how many reports have you read here? Maybe 10?

Although after putting myself in your shoes I probably should've been more considerate than I was when I woke up at 4am.
Yups. I think most DDFers are affected by the same  apathy.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on December 12, 2016, 01:45:56 PM
Yups. I think most DDFers are affected by the same  apathy.

There's something called tone.
Dan has went above and beyond to help out everyone, so when you get worked up that he didn't post an update about 2-3 people, you're stoking people to not care about your case.

Then you complain about ddf apathy and you'll be wondering why people will start caring less all of a sudden.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on December 12, 2016, 06:37:51 PM
Does it hurt to try?
Yes. Imagine what would happen if Dan would edit a post on DDMS every time someone thought there was a chance of hope for their personal situation.
Besides for the fact that Dan's being completely reasonable here, there's also the idea of setting a precedent.
I am, in no way, attacking Dan. I hope i didnt come across that way. I also never said he wasnt helpful (although after hesitating a bit). All im saying is that i just cant wrap my head around why he would refuse to update his article. Forget the "helping another yid" aspect. Do it for the sake of basic journalistic integrity (a domain into which Dan has forayed, willingly or not, when reporting on this story). עשה למענך אם לא למעננו... Is this that difficult to understand or am i missing something?
Sometimes we just don't understand things, especially when we're emotionally involved.
May i ask where you're getting your numbers from? We've been told this closure has affected over 200 people yet how many reports have you read here? Maybe 10?
Trust me. I'm personally involved in this story from a few sides, and I've spoken to many people about it.
There seem to be between 2-300 people who had their accounts shut down.
Of those, probably 80-90% are here on DDF.
Google said they would restore access to genuine accounts.
I've since spoken to 10's of people (including the reseller) whose accounts were shut down and they were all reopened. I'm yet to hear of a third report of a genuine account that wasn't reopened. Me thinks I would've heard if there was.

So to answer your question, I get my numbers from personal interaction with the people involved.

I hope I've made clearer to you why Dan may not be able/willing to edit his post and to help you in other ways. If its still not making sense to you, I don't think I'll be able to be any clearer then this.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on December 12, 2016, 10:00:56 PM
There's something called tone.
Dan has went above and beyond to help out everyone, so when you get worked up that he didn't post an update about 2-3 people, you're stoking people to not care about your case.

Then you complain about ddf apathy and you'll be wondering why people will start caring less all of a sudden.

I honestly don't know of which tone you speak.

Was it this?
Nothing doing. Accounts still disabled. All legit accounts. Please revise your post where you write:
Update #2, 11/17 at 8pm: Google has reactivated the suspended accounts!
Or maybe this?
I've submitted numerous requests about my shuttered accounts, yet nothing. Dan, can you pls update your article to properly reflect the facts that Google's reopening of accounts is purely whimsical by nature. Tnx!

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Yes. Imagine what would happen if Dan would edit a post on DDMS every time someone thought there was a chance of hope for their personal situation.
Oy, that would be horrible. Just plain horrible. I mean, who was it again who said this was akin to a Digital Death Sentence?

Besides for the fact that Dan's being completely reasonable here, there's also the idea of setting a precedent.
Really? You're worried that he'll set a precedence for journalistic integrity? I'm aware of the fake-news mania, but i think you're taking this a bit too far  :)

Sometimes we just don't understand things, especially when we're emotionally involved. Trust me. I'm personally involved in this story from a few sides, and I've spoken to many people about it.
There seem to be between 2-300 people who had their accounts shut down.
Of those, probably 80-90% are here on DDF.
Google said they would restore access to genuine accounts.
I've since spoken to 10's of people (including the reseller) whose accounts were shut down and they were all reopened. I'm yet to hear of a third report of a genuine account that wasn't reopened. Me thinks I would've heard if there was.

So to answer your question, I get my numbers from personal interaction with the people involved.
 

As I've already said:
Seriously? 
For argument's sake lets say you're assumptions are correct, does that still not fly in the face of their publically issued statement that they will be reopening all accounts not opened for the sole purpose of phone purchases? Or did i miss the "3 persons" exclusion?

I hope I've made clearer to you why Dan may not be able/willing to edit his post and to help you in other ways. If its still not making sense to you, I don't think I'll be able to be any clearer then this.
No, not really. Wonder if you would be singing the same song if our roles were reversed. Na, scratch that. I wonder not...
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on December 12, 2016, 10:07:13 PM
Gosh! Are we seriously arguing whether it's reasonable to ask that a story be accurately reported on? What am i missing here?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: myb821 on December 12, 2016, 10:31:00 PM
Seriosuly can Dan ever win. All he has done is to help you guys and all you do is criticize.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on December 12, 2016, 10:45:43 PM
BH i've had three of my 7 accounts reopened over the past few days (after incessantly badgering them - or perhaps due to Dan's magic hand. Dunno). But they're still holding out with my four most important ones. All old, long-standing accounts. Really frustrating. To those accusing me of attacking Dan, please scroll back and read through my posts and let me know when you have a change of heart ;) I have nothing but respect and admiration for him.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on December 12, 2016, 10:50:03 PM
While I may not agree with the tone of the person whose account is still disabled, I do think that people are being insensitive and dismissive of the pain that someone who's been locked out of their account for 3 weeks is going through. Telling someone sentenced to death not to complain because most other people had been acquitted isn't very reassuring or sensitive. It this were you, would you really be sitting passively on the side because the one person you see as capable of helping you already helped everyone else?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mochjas on December 12, 2016, 10:52:21 PM
To those accusing me of attacking Dan, please scroll back and read through my posts and let me know when you have a change
Seriously? 
For argument's sake lets say you're assumptions are correct, does that still not fly in the face of their publically issued statement that they will be reopening all accounts not opened for the sole purpose of phone purchases? Or did i miss the "3 persons" exclusion?
This was directed at Dan and sounds to me like an attack
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on December 12, 2016, 11:16:33 PM
This was directed at Dan and sounds to me like an attack
I dont consider arguing over whether Google is honoring its commitment an attack. Was def not meant to be one. But i guess i could have worded it differently.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on December 13, 2016, 03:30:29 AM
BH i've had three of my 7 accounts reopened over the past few days (after incessantly badgering them - or perhaps due to Dan's magic hand. Dunno). But they're still holding out with my four most important ones. All old, long-standing accounts. Really frustrating. To those accusing me of attacking Dan, please scroll back and read through my posts and let me know when you have a change of heart ;) I have nothing but respect and admiration for him.
You had seven accounts you ordered from?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: David Smith on December 13, 2016, 03:35:54 AM
You had seven accounts you ordered from?
You wouldn't have?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on December 13, 2016, 05:39:34 AM
You wouldn't have?
They don't cry when PGFHGS.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: CZ60 on December 13, 2016, 10:00:44 AM
Nothing doing. Accounts still disabled. All legit accounts. Please revise your post where you write:
Update #2, 11/17 at 8pm: Google has reactivated the suspended accounts!

The tone is aggressive. You may not be able to see it, but once you start telling people (more than once mind you) to change their submitted work, unless your the professor, or your their mother, people don't like being told what to do.

I've submitted numerous requests about my shuttered accounts, yet nothing. Dan, can you pls update your article to properly reflect the facts that Google's reopening of accounts is purely whimsical by nature. Tnx!

Then you tell him exactly what to write.

Seriously? 
For argument's sake lets say you're assumptions are correct, does that still not fly in the face of their publically issued statement that they will be reopening all accounts not opened for the sole purpose of phone purchases? Or did i miss the "3 persons" exclusion?

Then you get sarcastic.

All im saying is that i just cant wrap my head around why he would refuse to update his article.

I don't know where you are from, but when someone is helping you, you don't say phrases like "I can't wrap my head around why he's refusing to do what I'm telling him to do."

A piece of advice for you:

Stop talking arrogantly. If you've spoken that way to google yourself, that might be why they are refusing to open your accounts. Be polite to all parties involved and you'll have a much better chance. No one likes to be told what to do, and how to do it. You can tell your employees what to do, but not Dan or anyone else on this forum.

And I really do genuinely feel bad for you, because I can't imagine what it's like to not have my emails and photos, and everything digital taken away from me, we've grown to rely on it. But there are two ways about going about reinstatement and lately, you've been ticking off the judge...

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on December 13, 2016, 12:35:53 PM
I don't know where you are from, but when someone is helping you, you don't say phrases like "I can't wrap my head around why he's refusing to do what I'm telling him to do."

A piece of advice for you:

No one likes to be told what to do, and how to do it. You can tell your employees what to do, but not Dan or anyone else on this forum.

I actually come from a place where politely (yes, politely) pointing out factual inaccuracies in news articles and asking for them to be revised is not, by any stretch of the imagination, rude behavior. And from what i've read on this thread, they have that very same custom in Cleveland ;) 

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: etech0 on December 13, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
I actually come from a place where politely (yes, politely) pointing out factual inaccuracies in news articles and asking for them to be revised is not, by any stretch of the imagination, rude behavior. And from what i've read on this thread, they have that very same custom in Cleveland ;)
there's a difference between asking and telling
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on December 13, 2016, 12:43:54 PM
there's a difference between asking and telling
Please revise your post where you write:
Dan, can you pls update your article to properly reflect the facts that Google's reopening of accounts is purely whimsical by nature. Tnx!
Nuff said
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: etech0 on December 13, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
All im saying is that i just cant wrap my head around why he would refuse to update his article.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: A3 on December 13, 2016, 12:50:27 PM
Nuff said
What does Nuff mean?

Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on December 13, 2016, 12:56:10 PM


What part of above statement denotes either asking, or telling, for that matter? It's simply an opinion. To come under criticism for "telling people what to do" (in the same sentence where said commenter just did the very same to me ::) ), is just beyond me. OK, i'm done here. Apologies to all who genuinely deserve them. And if anyone can offer actual help, it'll be truly appreciated. But for the rest of you, peace out!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: JTZ on December 13, 2016, 05:31:51 PM
What does Nuff mean?
Hopefully it means stick a fork in it as this one is done.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Shmulyg on December 21, 2016, 12:22:56 PM
Submitted recovery form over 10 times. Nothing doing... Scared they'll completely delete my accounts' content. If anyone has any ideas, please share. TIA
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: since1492 on December 29, 2016, 08:30:21 AM
I am having issues with my kosher android tablet lately every time I open my tablet it makes me sign in again and they keep on suspending my account and i have to log in from a browser and type in a capcha code and it is unsuspended but this keeps on happening any ideas what the issue might be? they say it was suspended due to "violation of terms and conditions" but I can't think of anything that I am violating?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: since1492 on December 29, 2016, 08:40:55 AM
I am having issues with my kosher android tablet lately every time I open my tablet it makes me sign in again and they keep on suspending my account and i have to log in from a browser and type in a capcha code and it is unsuspended but this keeps on happening any ideas what the issue might be? they say it was suspended due to "violation of terms and conditions" but I can't think of anything that I am violating?
another seemingly unrelated issue I am having with this account is that when I send an email the name that comes up on the receivers end is my email address not my name, any solutions?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on December 29, 2016, 08:44:09 AM
another seemingly unrelated issue I am having with this account is that when I send an email the name that comes up on the receivers end is my email address not my name, any solutions?
Go to settings and change your name?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: since1492 on December 29, 2016, 09:02:08 AM
Go to settings and change your name?
my name is listed but it doesn't show when I send an email it just shows my email address name
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: MeirS on December 29, 2016, 10:05:04 AM
Using a VPN (which may be how the kosher phone works) may be a violation of terms and conditions, and may be the reason for issue with how your name comes up. Try talking to the tech department of the kosher phone and see if they can help you.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: since1492 on December 29, 2016, 10:49:36 AM
Using a VPN (which may be how the kosher phone works) may be a violation of terms and conditions, and may be the reason for issue with how your name comes up. Try talking to the tech department of the kosher phone and see if they can help you.
thanx will call them
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Welder on May 25, 2017, 09:46:13 AM
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/05/25/resold-pixel-phones-originally-purchased-project-fi-imeis-blacklisted/
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: jj1000 on May 25, 2017, 09:50:38 AM
And this http://www.techspot.com/news/69452-pixel-phones-project-fi-showing-up-blacklisted.html

Anyone with any data points on this we can use?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: mmgfarb on May 25, 2017, 09:52:03 AM
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/05/25/resold-pixel-phones-originally-purchased-project-fi-imeis-blacklisted/
That's just nasty.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yelped on May 25, 2017, 10:30:56 AM
Wow. That's extremely nasty. From the company that has their motto as "Do No Evil"...

I'm assuming that they're going to unblock them soon, but they did this since a new Google Pixel is on the way and they want to warn people not to try reselling again.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on May 25, 2017, 10:38:48 AM
And this http://www.techspot.com/news/69452-pixel-phones-project-fi-showing-up-blacklisted.html

Anyone with any data points on this we can use?
This is bad! This needs a DDMS post!
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yitrap on May 25, 2017, 11:00:58 AM
They sent a message. Nobody will try reselling Google phones again. Apple on the other hand gets slammed every year from resellers.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Dan on May 25, 2017, 01:13:25 PM
How do we know Google locked these phones and it wasn't the seller playing games?
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yakov116 on May 25, 2017, 01:26:10 PM
How do we know Google locked these phones and it wasn't the seller playing games?
Swappa reported it
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yuneeq on May 25, 2017, 03:43:36 PM
Google finally admitted that they blacklisted the phones and is gonna fix them now.

https://www.hardocp.com/news/2017/05/25/pixel_blacklist_phones_stolen63_project_fi_goof_up63
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: yesitsme on October 31, 2017, 10:36:07 PM
http://hamodia.com/2017/10/31/google-docs-users-getting-locked-files/
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: stooges44 on November 01, 2017, 09:30:47 AM
http://hamodia.com/2017/10/31/google-docs-users-getting-locked-files/

If you needed this article to confirm that google (and any other service provider) monitors, tracks, and records every single click, hover, upload, email and site that you visit I'd say you shouldn't be using any device at all.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Boruch999 on November 01, 2017, 09:41:47 AM
If you needed this article to confirm that google (and any other service provider) monitors, tracks, and records every single click, hover, upload, email and site that you visit I'd say you shouldn't be using any device at all.

It's one thing to monitor.  It's another to lock.
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: aygart on November 01, 2017, 09:52:00 AM
It's one thing to monitor and use data for marketing.  It's another to monitor closely enough to lock.
FTFY
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Yehuda25 on November 01, 2017, 10:57:03 PM
FTFY
right, though this isnt new, though maybe now more widespread.


http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2013/04/life_without_google_when_my_account_was_suspended_i_felt_like_i_d_been_dumped.html
Title: Re: Help, Google just disabled my email accounts
Post by: Welder on November 02, 2017, 09:11:39 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/02/facebook-google-monopoly-companies