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Title: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 09:47:55 AM
It is no longer a question of if but when. It will be for DW and I. First I want to thank everyone that has helped so far!!!
Time frame will be anytime after 8/1. Can fly on any day.  ;)
Will leave from ORD. Would like business/first flight with easy connection and not to long of a layover. Been looking at Swiss and Turkish so far.
Have MR, UR, HGP, UA, and AA. Can generate anything else except SPG.
Would like to be centrally located to see the sites.
DW loves to shop. She can spend all day at a mall. She also wants to float in the Dead Sea.
Open to any and all suggestions.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 09, 2017, 09:50:45 AM
For how long?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: as2 on January 09, 2017, 09:53:36 AM
Cash flights are often cheaper Saturday, so if you book Amex that's an option. Any religious background? Are you interested in any part of the country in particular? Historic? Nature? As your Itinerary comes to fruition we can all give you our experienced (professional?) 2 cents
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 09:53:47 AM
For how long?
I was thinking 7-10 days. I am not big on staying in one place to long. Family vaca's to PVR/MBJ are 7 days.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Moshe123 on January 09, 2017, 09:54:21 AM
Wow
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 09:55:50 AM
Cash flights are cheapest Saturday, so if you book Amex that's an option. Any religious background? Are you interested in any part of the country in particular? Historic? Nature? As your Itinerary comes to fruition we can all give you our experienced (professional?) 2 cents
The cash option is on the table.
Catholic and DW loves old churches. Historic yes, nature so so.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: as2 on January 09, 2017, 10:00:37 AM
The cash option is on the table.
Catholic and DW loves old churches. Historic yes, nature so so.
So the churches are where some of us are a bit less experienced but there are so many historic areas in Israel. Honestly dead sea is only for some. Been there once and haven't had an interest to go back. Its something you need to do at least once though. While youre down south by the dead sea you may want to hit up Ein Gedi. A bit nature-y but very nice. Lots of water and waterfalls and some nice scenery
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 09, 2017, 10:03:24 AM
I was thinking 7-10 days. I am not big on staying in one place to long. Family vaca's to PVR/MBJ are 7 days.
Assuming you want to see it all, I would prob head counter clockwise. Land in the morning and drive to Eilat for day and a half with stops (Ramon crater is nice).
Then drive to Dead Sea for a day, no need for a night. Jerusalem then for 4 days. Golan for a day then Rosh hanikra, Akko, Caesarea.
Stay last night in Tel Aviv.
Need more info what interests you for more details.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2017, 10:05:13 AM
Can you do 2 weeks? Really tough to see all the sights in 7-10 days for the first time.
I did a month my first time and it wasn't enough...

Have a Biz Plat card?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 10:06:08 AM
Can you do 2 weeks?
Have a Biz Plat card?
Yes/yes but our dogs will miss us.  :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 09, 2017, 10:09:38 AM



Time frame will be anytime after 8/1.

Whens the latest?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: as2 on January 09, 2017, 10:09:39 AM
If you're looking to really get around the country, Eilat is beautiful too. Nice shopping scene on the boardwalk and a great nightlife. Some pretty solid hotels down there as well. Lots of water sports activities if that's up your alley. Scuba diving, snorkeling, boating, jet skis etc.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 10:11:16 AM
Whens the latest?
End of Oct or it would have to next year after the 1st.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dawie on January 09, 2017, 10:12:52 AM
Assuming you want to see it all, I would prob head counter clockwise. Land in the morning and drive to Eilat for day and a half with stops (Ramon crater is nice).
Then drive to Dead Sea for a day, no need for a night. Jerusalem then for 4 days. Golan for a day then Rosh hanikra, Akko, Caesarea.
Stay last night in Tel Aviv.
Need more info what interests you for more details.
hit these near Ramon Crater
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Archaeology/byznegev.html
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Redbull3 on January 09, 2017, 10:13:27 AM
This is awesome.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 09, 2017, 10:15:12 AM
End of Oct or it would have to next year after the 1st.
OK great because I personally don't think  Aug is a good idea.


Because I won't be there then...Or maybe then it's a great idea.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 10:18:55 AM
I am not looking to cover the whole country in this one visit. There can always be a return visit.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 10:21:26 AM
If you're looking to really get around the country, Eilat is beautiful too. Nice shopping scene on the boardwalk and a great nightlife. Some pretty solid hotels down there as well. Lots of water sports activities if that's up your alley. Scuba diving, snorkeling, boating, jet skis etc.
I love water activities but the DW doesn't as she is not an expert swimmer like me.  :)
If my kids were with us then water activities would be a must. A boat cruise or day at the beach works.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Redbull3 on January 09, 2017, 10:23:24 AM
The wall and "tunnel tours"
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2017, 10:23:36 AM
It is no longer a question of if but when. It will be for DW and I. First I want to thank everyone that has helped so far!!!
Time frame will be anytime after 8/1. Can fly on any day.  ;)
Will leave from ORD. Would like business/first flight with easy connection and not to long of a layover. Been looking at Swiss and Turkish so far.
Have MR, UR, HGP, UA, and AA. Can generate anything else except SPG.
Would like to be centrally located to see the sites.
DW loves to shop. She can spend all day at a mall. She also wants to float in the Dead Sea.
Open to any and all suggestions.
Since you can fly any day, award space is usually more available on flights that operate on or very close to Shabbos.

As I have posted elsewhere on these forums, if you prefer nocturnal flights, then coming back from TLV your options are DL, UA and LY.

Since KSML is non-issue for you, I thought that the TK chef in J seems really interesting.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: @Yehuda on January 09, 2017, 10:24:28 AM
Have a blast!

There's no "beach" in Eilat. :P
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Yammer on January 09, 2017, 10:26:20 AM
Having in mind that Aug 2-23 is when all the Yeshivas have summer vacation. All attractions/ places of interest  are overflowing with ppl. It would be best to avoid those dates if possible.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2017, 10:28:04 AM
Also, don't leave the Galilee out of your tour, some really nice places there.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 09, 2017, 10:35:01 AM
Having in mind that Aug 2-23 is when all the Yeshivas have summer vacation. All attractions/ places of interest  are overflowing with ppl. It would be best to avoid those dates if possible.
Just adds to the experience.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: as2 on January 09, 2017, 10:36:28 AM
Have a blast!

There's no "beach" in Eilat.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170109/df41ac62a209d54b8368d6f4066fbfb7.jpg) this was good enough for me
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2017, 10:37:00 AM
September is probably ideal given your constraints.

Personally I'd skip the south unless you have more than 2 weeks to burn.
There are better beaches than Eilat and better canyons than Ramon in the US.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 09, 2017, 10:43:31 AM


A boat cruise or day at the beach works.

Then take a "Jesus boat" sunset cruise on the Kineret.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: sky121 on January 09, 2017, 10:44:30 AM
September is probably ideal given your constraints.

Personally I'd skip the south unless you have more than 2 weeks to burn.
There are better beaches than Eilat and better canyons than Ramon in the US.
+1 I'd skip Eilat. Plenty of other places that are worth catching first IMO. Though I'd still have visiting the Negev on my list of maybes.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 10:44:59 AM
Sept works. DW is not keen on longer than 10 days.
How about the basics. For airlines the preferred choice? Need lie-flat and I am 6-2.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 09, 2017, 10:48:18 AM
Sept works. DW is not keen on longer than 10 days.
How about the basics. For airlines the preferred choice? Need lie-flat and I am 6-2.
There's always LY if you want to start your experience right away.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2017, 10:50:30 AM
Sept works. DW is not keen on longer than 10 days.
How about the basics. For airlines the preferred choice? Need lie-flat and I am 6-2.
Air Canada, Delta, or United are $3.3K from ORD-TLV via YYZ, JFK, or EWR. That should be about 165K AMEX Biz Plat points after 50% rebate.
Can't go wrong with any of those.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: sillypainter on January 09, 2017, 10:56:34 AM
There's always LY if you want to start your experience right away.

Love this quote.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: 12HRS on January 09, 2017, 11:01:44 AM
Is united going to have the polaris seats installed by the summer for the ewr-tlv route?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2017, 11:02:20 AM
Is united going to have the polaris seats installed by the summer for the ewr-tlv route?
Doubtful.
But even so, as a couple the current UA config may be the best bet as it's easier to talk to each other. I'd take the bulkhead middle seats so that you get extra legroom and don't have to wake the other in middle of the night to use the bathroom.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Joe4007 on January 09, 2017, 11:26:29 AM
My first Israel trip (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=42756.0). I had about 8 days so didn't do the south. You can swap out some religious sites  :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: coralsnake on January 09, 2017, 11:28:50 AM
Don't forget to tour the West Bank, PA headquarters in Ramallah, Gaza City...

Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: TimT on January 09, 2017, 11:29:31 AM
Don't forget to tour the West Bank, PA headquarters in Ramallah, Gaza City...
He's traveling with the DW :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: David Smith on January 09, 2017, 11:31:43 AM
The cash option is on the table.
Catholic and DW loves old churches. Historic yes, nature so so.
I'm sure I'm not saying anything that you don't know already, but there's a historic Christian district in the Old City of Jerusalem that's a popular attraction.

Scuba diving in Eilat or glass bottom boat ride is nice if that's your cup of tea.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: coralsnake on January 09, 2017, 11:32:33 AM
He's traveling with the DW :)
So? From what I read they seem to be a very accepting people.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 11:36:36 AM
So? From what I read they seem to be a very accepting people.
She does want to go to the Wailing Wall so we will have to go to Palestine.  :P
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 11:37:16 AM
I'm sure I'm not saying anything that you don't know already, but there's a historic Christian district in the Old City of Jerusalem that's a popular attraction.
On the short list.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2017, 11:53:07 AM
Air Canada, Delta, or United are $3.3K from ORD-TLV via YYZ, JFK, or EWR. That should be about 165K AMEX Biz Plat points after 50% rebate.
Can't go wrong with any of those.
What about RJ which flies direct ORD-AMM?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: User6669 on January 09, 2017, 11:55:22 AM
What did your LOR advise you regarding kashrut?  ;)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2017, 11:57:46 AM
Don't forget to tour the West Bank, PA headquarters in Ramallah, Gaza City...
I would say skip Gaza, but there are definitely places you could visit, that many others here wouldn't. I would love to read your TR of Ramallah. You might also find Jaffa and Haifa unique with places that others here wouldn't visit.

If you're going to the dead sea, don't skip Masada (where you can see how this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=71410.0) was practiced thousands of years ago).
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ckmk47 on January 09, 2017, 11:58:30 AM
our dogs will miss us.  :)
You have dogs and your avatar is a cat?  I thought there were dog people and cat people and never the twain shall meet!  :D
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: TimT on January 09, 2017, 11:59:11 AM
I could already see the headlines: "Unruly passenger demands all male passengers switch seats"
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: MeirS on January 09, 2017, 12:06:56 PM
She does want to go to the Wailing Wall so we will have to go to Palestine.  :P
PC alert.

When I was in Israel I went a little south to the Dead Sea, Masada and Ein Gedi but it wasn't worth it for me to go that much further just for Eilat.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2017, 12:07:48 PM
I would say skip Gaza, but there are definitely places you could visit, that many others here wouldn't. I would love to read your TR of Ramallah. You might also find Jaffa and Haifa unique with places that others here wouldn't visit.

If you're going to the dead sea, don't skip Masada (where you can see how this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=71410.0) was practiced thousands of years ago).
+1
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2017, 12:12:32 PM
PC alert.

When I was in Israel I went a little south to the Dead Sea, Masada and Ein Gedi but it wasn't worth it for me to go that much further just for Eilat.
I would say that as far as Eilat goes, might be interesting to contrast it with its Jordanian counterpart, Akaba. Also if traveling south, might want to cross over and see Petra.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2017, 12:19:33 PM
I would say that as far as Eilat goes, might be interesting to contrast it with its Jordanian counterpart, Akaba. Also if traveling south, might want to cross over and see Petra.
When JTZ has over a month, sure.
10 days? No way.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2017, 12:21:32 PM
When JTZ has over a month, sure.
10 days? No way.
Don't forget that his 10 days would include 1 or 2 days that you or I wouldn't consider for touring.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2017, 12:22:02 PM
Don't forget that his 10 days would include 1 or 2 days that you or I wouldn't consider for touring.
Doesn't change the math.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ckmk47 on January 09, 2017, 12:38:08 PM
Its an interesting intellectual exercise thinking about a trip to Israel without an emphasis on Jewish holy sites.
-In Jerusalem: The Western Wall itself and the Kotel Tunnel Tour. Maybe also Ir David  (http://www.cityofdavid.org.il/en/tours)- archeological digs near the temple, but also a history of the ancient city of David, that once stood there. But doing both tours may be a little much for a first timer.
-Yad Vashem world renown Holocaust Museum
-Bet Guvrin (http://www.parks.org.il/sites/English/ParksAndReserves/BeitGuvrin/Pages/default.aspx) is a low key historic site with a self-guided walking tour.  It has cisterns and columbaria (places to raise doves) from the times of the Temple.  It may not be good for a first timer, but I mention it for others who may be interested.
-Massada heroic Jews in the dessert at the time of the destruction of the Temple a basic tourist site.  The Dead Sea. Ein Gedi nature Preserve.  All in the same neighborhood. A long 1 day trip is possible. Or 2 days. Or stay in the area over night and do it over a day and a half.
-The North is chock full of holy grave sites, yet has Rosh Hanikra and good jeeping.  Our driver drove north on the road along the Jordon river.  It was nice to see the Israeli date trees and other groves flourishing among the desolate rockiness.  There were numerous Bedouin camps along the way. 
-Along the west coast is Caesarea - a Roman-built city.  Its quite touristy, but there are tours of the history, too.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 09, 2017, 12:41:43 PM
I would say skip Gaza, but there are definitely places you could visit, that many others here wouldn't. I would love to read your TR of Ramallah. You might also find Jaffa and Haifa unique with places that others here wouldn't visit.

If you're going to the dead sea, don't skip Masada (where you can see how this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=71410.0) was practiced thousands of years ago).
There isn't much of anything interesting in Ramallah, better of going to Jericho.
(Yes, this is speaking from experience)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2017, 12:48:02 PM
Its an interesting intellectual exercise thinking about a trip to Israel without an emphasis on Jewish holy sites.
-In Jerusalem: The Western Wall itself and the Kotel Tunnel Tour. Maybe also Ir David  (http://www.cityofdavid.org.il/en/tours)- archeological digs near the temple, but also a history of the ancient city of David, that once stood there. But doing both tours may be a little much for a first timer.
-Yad Vashem world renown Holocaust Museum
-Bet Guvrin (http://www.parks.org.il/sites/English/ParksAndReserves/BeitGuvrin/Pages/default.aspx) is a low key historic site with a self-guided walking tour.  It has cisterns and columbaria (places to raise doves) from the times of the Temple.  It may not be good for a first timer, but I mention it for others who may be interested.
-Massada heroic Jews in the dessert at the time of the destruction of the Temple a basic tourist site.  The Dead Sea. Ein Gedi nature Preserve.  All in the same neighborhood. A long 1 day trip is possible. Or 2 days. Or stay in the area over night and do it over a day and a half.
-The North is chock full of holy grave sites, yet has Rosh Hanikra and good jeeping.  Our driver drove north on the road along the Jordon river.  It was nice to see the Israeli date trees and other groves flourishing among the desolate rockiness.  There were numerous Bedouin camps along the way. 
-Along the west coast is Caesarea - a Roman-built city.  Its quite touristy, but there are tours of the history, too.
Great start.

I'd also add:
-Jerusalem on Shabbos
-Ramparts walk in Jerusalem
-Blind museum and Palmach museum in TLV
-Banias, Nimrods Fortress, Har Bental, Jordan river rafting, and other Golan Heights sites
-Tzfat

There are probably better forums than this one to find the Christian sights to see though...
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: MeirS on January 09, 2017, 01:11:07 PM
Great start.

I'd also add:
-Jerusalem on Shabbos
-Me'ah She'arim any time of the week just to take in the atmosphere (although you got to check out the alleys for the real feel)
-Ramparts walk in Jerusalem
-Blind museum and Palmach museum in TLV
-Banias, Nimrods Fortress, Har Bental, Jordan river rafting, and other Golan Heights sites
-Tzfat

There are probably better forums than this one to find the Christian sights to see though...
Added one for you.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: good sam on January 09, 2017, 01:12:22 PM


I would say skip Gaza, but there are definitely places you could visit, that many others here wouldn't. I would love to read your TR of Ramallah. You might also find Jaffa and Haifa unique with places that others here wouldn't visit.
Don't forget the Damascus Gate and Arab market.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: shwarmabob on January 09, 2017, 01:54:08 PM
Don't forget to tour the West Bank, PA headquarters in Ramallah, Gaza City...
I wouldn't go that far, but if you are in Jerusalem then Bethlehem is a short bus ride away.
if you want to go with a tour: https://abrahamtours.com/tours/bethlehem-tour/
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 01:54:50 PM
Ton of information to process so far. Appreciate all the help. I have a good source for the Christian sites. Will start making up a short list and see if it is doable.
Yad Vashem world renown Holocaust Museum is on the list. After our trip to Auschwitz last year this seems like a must.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dr Moose on January 09, 2017, 01:59:51 PM
Why do n00bs create threads without searching?!  >:(

Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1885.0)

Israel Hotels Master Thread (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1271.0)

The Ultimate Israel Mileage Award Chart (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/68732)


 :P
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Yammer on January 09, 2017, 02:01:58 PM
Ton of information to process so far. Appreciate all the help. I have a good source for the Christian sites. Will start making up a short list and see if it is doable.
Yad Vashem world renown Holocaust Museum is on the list. After our trip to Auschwitz last year this seems like a must.
It would probably be easier for you if you work on a map schedule. There is basically the
north which you'd want to split between the east and west ( Total of 3 day should suffice )

Dead Sea area which is basically a day depending on how you do it  ( EinGedi, Massada )

Center of the country Jerusalem, tlv ( a list can be found all above )


The rest of stuff you cover while traveling.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 02:15:56 PM
Why do n00bs create threads without searching?!  >:(
Some n00bs think they are special.  :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: MeirS on January 09, 2017, 02:20:27 PM
Some n00bs think they are special.  :)
Others, are.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2017, 02:33:52 PM
Great start.

I'd also add:
-Jerusalem on Shabbos
-Ramparts walk in Jerusalem
-Blind museum and Palmach museum in TLV
-Banias, Nimrods Fortress, Har Bental, Jordan river rafting, and other Golan Heights sites
-Tzfat

There are probably better forums than this one to find the Christian sights to see though...
I would add that if you haven't experienced a Shabbos meal, you should try and get invited to one.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dawie on January 09, 2017, 02:35:22 PM
I would add that if you haven't experienced a Shabbos meal, you should try and get invited to one.
yeah, Shabbos DO in Jerusalem
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: MeirS on January 09, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
I would add that if you haven't experienced a Shabbos meal, you should try and get invited to one.
I'm sure many here would be glad to host JTZ for a Shabbos meal. YT would be more complicated though.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 02:46:15 PM
I would add that if you haven't experienced a Shabbos meal, you should try and get invited to one.
The Big Dog himself took care of that but I am up for a Shabbos DO.

YT?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: mmgfarb on January 09, 2017, 02:50:58 PM
The Big Dog himself took care of that but I am up for a Shabbos DO.

YT?
Yom Tov- religious holiday
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: efflpetzel on January 09, 2017, 02:54:42 PM
I'm sure many here would be glad to host JTZ for a Shabbos meal. YT would be more complicated though.
can someone invite JTZ to Mea Shearim for a shabbos meal & make sure he takes a taxi  ;D ;D ;D



Great start.

I'd also add:
-Jerusalem on Shabbos
-Ramparts walk in Jerusalem
-Blind museum and Palmach museum in TLV
-Banias, Nimrods Fortress, Har Bental, Jordan river rafting, and other Golan Heights sites
-Tzfat

There are probably better forums than this one to find the Christian sights to see though...

Blind museum is in Holon
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2017, 03:03:26 PM
Blind museum is in Holon
And TLV is also not in Tel Aviv.
Talking about metro area.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: efflpetzel on January 09, 2017, 03:04:54 PM
And TLV is also not in Tel Aviv.
Talking about metro area.
Gotcha
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2017, 03:49:21 PM
And TLV is also not in Tel Aviv.
Talking about metro area.
IINM they are supposed to be merging some municipalities around Tel-Aviv into a single municipality with Tel-Aviv. Not sure if Holon is part of that. But in any event I think Dan was right in referring to the metro area, as the boundaries between municipalities are totally arbitrary, if not historical, at this point. It is all one huge contiguous residential and business area.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: CZ60 on January 09, 2017, 04:07:58 PM
Blind museum is in Holon

+1000 - a really moving experience
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: as2 on January 09, 2017, 04:51:36 PM


can someone invite JTZ to Mea Shearim for a shabbos meal & make sure he takes a taxi  ;D ;D ;D

+100 if he doesn't make it back well know why

Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 05:06:30 PM
can someone invite JTZ to Mea Shearim for a shabbos meal & make sure he takes a taxi  ;D ;D ;D
Don't all you guys live there? Just pick me up.  :P
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: David Smith on January 09, 2017, 05:08:45 PM
Don't all you guys live there? Just pick me up. 
Most DDFers live in Meah Shearim, but there are a couple in Kiryat Sefer too.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: efflpetzel on January 09, 2017, 05:08:59 PM
Don't all you guys live there? Just pick me up. 
You don't understand, it's a real moving cultural experience driving through mea shearim in a taxi on shabbos
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: David Smith on January 09, 2017, 05:09:35 PM
You don't understand, it's a real moving cultural experience driving through mea shearim in a taxi on shabbos
You didn't get his response.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: efflpetzel on January 09, 2017, 05:12:16 PM
You didn't get his response.
Oh I did
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 05:15:13 PM
You don't understand, it's a real moving cultural experience driving through mea shearim in a taxi on shabbos
Isn't it like going back 200 years in time?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: shulem92 on January 09, 2017, 05:16:33 PM
Isn't it like going back 200 years in time?
Lol
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 05:24:18 PM
Lol
Is that a yes?  :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: 12HRS on January 09, 2017, 05:26:58 PM
Is that a yes?  :)

they all have electricity even on shabbos. although some use generators
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Geshmak25 on January 09, 2017, 05:39:25 PM
Have a Biz Plat card?
Is this now the presumed best choice for Israel?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2017, 05:40:13 PM
Is this now the presumed best choice for Israel?
It's very likely.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: hocker on January 09, 2017, 05:45:16 PM
You're invited for Fri night meal in Jerusalem.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 05:47:15 PM
You're invited for Fri night meal in Jerusalem.
Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: MeirS on January 09, 2017, 06:11:05 PM
Don't all you guys live there? Just pick me up.  :P
Not really. -Me'ah She'arim is a tiny neighborhood in Jerusalem
Most DDFers live in Meah Shearim, but there are a couple in Kiryat Sefer too.
Really? I don't count the Mir as part of
Me'ah She'arim but even if you do, most live there??
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: David Smith on January 09, 2017, 06:12:11 PM


Really? I don't count the Mir as part of
Me'ah She'arim but even if you do, most live there??
Twas a joke.

Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: as2 on January 09, 2017, 06:14:17 PM
You don't understand, it's a real moving cultural experience driving through mea shearim in a taxi on shabbos
As in the rocks hitting your car may move you to leave the area
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 06:23:16 PM
Twas a joke.
I got it especially the second part.  :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: 12HRS on January 09, 2017, 06:28:34 PM
hopefully im gonna be going as well the last two weeks of august. if you time it well can finally have that DO where I tell you all my secrets

ETA: if you time it really well you can watch the army detain me when I try to get through passport control on the way out.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: eli1571 on January 09, 2017, 06:35:24 PM
It's very likely.
When you say "it is presumably the best card for Israel", you mean only Israel or for any airline tickets ?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2017, 06:40:09 PM
As in the rocks hitting your car may move you to leave the area
I am making an official protest about this הוצאת שם רע. While I will not deny that it has happened, I don't think it is common, since it is not permissible on Shabbos.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: 12HRS on January 09, 2017, 06:44:26 PM
When you say "it is presumably the best card for Israel", you mean only Israel or for any airline tickets ?

id imagine because of the combo of pretty bad award availability and not outrageous flight costs
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: David Smith on January 09, 2017, 06:45:33 PM
I am making an official protest about this הוצאת שם רע. While I will not deny that it has happened, I don't think it is common, since it is not permissible on Shabbos.
They're מוכן מבעוד יום
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: coralsnake on January 09, 2017, 06:46:17 PM
I am making an official protest about this הוצאת שם רע. While I will not deny that it has happened, I don't think it is common, since it is not permissible on Shabbos.
-1
Unless something has changed in the last 15 years.

Its muttar because they set aside the rocks before Shabbos, duh.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on January 09, 2017, 07:15:01 PM
Just imagining the sight of a taxi driving down Meah Shearim on Shabbos being beaten by rocks, the passenger sticking his head out the window begging for his life:
Quote
"I'm JTZ! Hello! It's me, from DDF! The guy with the leopard picture, don't y'all know me???!!!"
;D
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: shulem92 on January 09, 2017, 07:23:16 PM
Just imagining the sight of a taxi driving down Meah Shearim on Shabbos being beaten by rocks, the passenger sticking his head out the window begging for his life:  ;D
No taxi would drive down meah shearim
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on January 09, 2017, 07:23:34 PM
On a more serious note, no way you're going to Israel without visiting the Wall (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_West_Bank_barrier)...
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 07:26:22 PM
On a more serious note, no way you're going to Israel without visiting the Wall (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_West_Bank_barrier)...
Already have my notes written out.  :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2017, 07:33:09 PM
No taxi would drive down meah shearim
Even with a white license plate?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Redbull3 on January 09, 2017, 07:43:33 PM
Even with a white license plate?
Or a sign on the side... it's ok, only goyim on board.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2017, 08:00:08 PM
DW loves to shop. She can spend all day at a mall. She also wants to float in the Dead Sea.
Open to any and all suggestions.

If she's looking for some different kinds of shopping experiences, she might want to try out Machne Yehuda, the marketplace in Jerusalem old city (Muslim quarter IINM), and IMHO some of the large chain supermarkets are just something different than the type of shopping one would experience in the US (though Bingo in Boro Park brought some of the latter to these shores).
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: shulem92 on January 09, 2017, 08:01:56 PM
If she's looking for some different kinds of shopping experiences, she might want to try out Machne Yehuda, the marketplace in Jerusalem old city (Muslim quarter IINM), and IMHO some of the large chain supermarkets are just something different than the type of shopping one would experience in the US (though Bingo in Boro Park brought some of the latter to these shores).
Lol. Same owner...
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2017, 08:05:11 PM
Lol. Same owner...
That's right (Bingo is owned by the owner of the most oddly named supermarket chain in the world - Osher Ad which translates "eternal joy"). And after my first visit to Bingo, I couldn't stop being amazed at how similar it is to the Israeli experience (except for customer service desk). Though the Israeli chain sells quite a few Kirkland Signature products, which you obviously won't find at Bingo.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: chinagel on January 09, 2017, 08:14:59 PM
If she's looking for some different kinds of shopping experiences, she might want to try out Machne Yehuda, the marketplace in Jerusalem old city (Muslim quarter IINM), and IMHO some of the large chain supermarkets are just something different than the type of shopping one would experience in the US (though Bingo in Boro Park brought some of the latter to these shores).
machne yehuda isnt old city
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: MeirS on January 09, 2017, 08:18:52 PM
machne yehuda isnt old city
Notice the coma
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2017, 08:19:34 PM
machne yehuda isnt old city
It is not. I listed 3 different kinds of shopping experiences, separated by commas. I forgot to mention that the experience is that much greater for someone that enjoys haggling.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: chinagel on January 09, 2017, 08:20:35 PM
It is not. I listed 3 different kinds of shopping experiences, separated by commas.
my bad, thought the comma was a description.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: shulem92 on January 09, 2017, 08:30:12 PM
Notice the coma
How bad is the coma? Lol
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: shulem92 on January 09, 2017, 08:30:45 PM
That's right (Bingo is owned by the owner of the most oddly named supermarket chain in the world - Osher Ad which translates "eternal joy"). And after my first visit to Bingo, I couldn't stop being amazed at how similar it is to the Israeli experience (except for customer service desk). Though the Israeli chain sells quite a few Kirkland Signature products, which you obviously won't find at Bingo.
You never know. He may import the Kirkland stuff from Israel
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: David Smith on January 09, 2017, 09:06:53 PM
my bad, thought the comma was a description.

What's the difference between a cat and a comma?
One has claws at the end of its paws and the other is a pause at the end of a clause.

Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: chinagel on January 09, 2017, 09:08:37 PM
What's the difference between a cat and a comma?
One has claws at the end of its paws and the other is a pause at the end of a clause.
the difference or a difference :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 09, 2017, 09:09:45 PM
You never know. He may import the Kirkland stuff from Israel
But he'd have a tough time selling it just a few blocks away from Costco.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: shulem92 on January 09, 2017, 09:10:11 PM
But he'd have a tough time selling it just a few blocks away from Costco.
I know. I was making a joke about Israeli mentality
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: chinagel on January 09, 2017, 09:13:33 PM
I know. I was making a joke
i must have seen that response 10 times in the past 2 days.  ;)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2017, 09:57:46 PM
Anyone want to Wikify the suggestions made so far for a 10 day first trip to Israel?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: MeirS on January 09, 2017, 11:21:23 PM
Anyone want to Wikify the suggestions made so far for a 10 day first trip to Israel?
Give me a few minutes
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: MeirS on January 09, 2017, 11:50:01 PM
Anyone want to Wikify the suggestions made so far for a 10 day first trip to Israel?
How's that?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2017, 11:51:04 PM
Nice job!
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 09, 2017, 11:53:34 PM
Anyone want to Wikify the suggestions made so far for a 10 day first trip to Israel?
Give me a few minutes
Nice job!
+1000 You guys are unbelievable.
THANK YOU!!!
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: MeirS on January 09, 2017, 11:58:59 PM
It's all about experiencing the ancient past, enjoying the modern and advanced present/future and watching the spots where the past and the future come together.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on January 10, 2017, 12:08:51 AM
Nice job MeirS! As I started reading the wiki "This is my first attempt at..." I was sure it'll finish with the words "...putting together an itinerary for an Israel trip".  :)

I also like the way you finished off the with some suggestions in purple. :D
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Freddie on January 10, 2017, 12:12:37 AM
I may be in the minority here but I think it's worthwhile to hire a good tour guide. Many Israeli tour guides are very knowledgable and can enrich your experience exponentially.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on January 10, 2017, 12:15:48 AM
I may be in the minority here but I think it's worthwhile to hire a good tour guide. Many Israeli tour guides are very knowledgable and can enrich your experience exponentially.
-1 if he's well prepared. The tour-guide for the type of tour he's looking for will be a total ripoff. The really good ones are for those that Jewish heritage/history specifically is what they are looking for. But again MHO only.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2017, 12:17:29 AM
I may be in the minority here but I think it's worthwhile to hire a good tour guide. Many Israeli tour guides are very knowledgable and can enrich your experience exponentially.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: MeirS on January 10, 2017, 12:48:41 AM
+1000 You guys are unbelievable.
THANK YOU!!!
Still need to take care of flights and hotels...
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: SamKey on January 10, 2017, 01:05:39 AM
As far as hotels probably best to stay at the WAJ. If you want to drive through Meah Shearim on Shabbos all you need to do is sit in the front seat and leave your wife in the back. (Make sure her hair is covered and she looks in pain)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: shulem92 on January 10, 2017, 01:14:52 AM
As far as hotels probably best to stay at the WAJ. If you want to drive through Meah Shearim on Shabbos all you need to do is sit in the front seat and leave your wife in the back. (Make sure her hair is covered and she looks in pain)
Lol, then there's no point...
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 10, 2017, 06:48:38 AM
Still need to take care of flights and hotels...
Unless I can grab an award flight with out much time invested this is a sure winner for me.
Air Canada, Delta, or United are $3.3K from ORD-TLV via YYZ, JFK, or EWR. That should be about 165K AMEX Biz Plat points after 50% rebate.
Can't go wrong with any of those.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Geshmak25 on January 10, 2017, 07:59:20 AM
Air Canada, Delta, or United are $3.3K from ORD-TLV via YYZ, JFK, or EWR. That should be about 165K AMEX Biz Plat points after 50% rebate.
Can't go wrong with any of those.
Air Canada isn't on the Amex plat airline list, no?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Joe4007 on January 10, 2017, 08:00:52 AM
Air Canada isn't on the Amex plat airline list, no?
J & F don't need to be on the list.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Geshmak25 on January 10, 2017, 08:07:18 AM
J & F don't need to be on the list.
Gotcha
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 10, 2017, 08:45:08 AM
As far as hotels probably best to stay at the WAJ.
This is 500 a night?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 10, 2017, 08:53:28 AM
This is 500 a night?
Hilton certs, get the CC or buy for 200-250.
But honestly isn't much need, just stay by one of the cheaper ones.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: yandmk on January 10, 2017, 09:32:55 AM
A visit to the Bedouins in Midbar Yehuda (jeeping). I did it this past summer. It was awesome. It's not just visiting history, it's watching it live! Must be done on a jeep tour. I did a 2 hour tour. Longer tours are available too. Anyone else here did that?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: gubevo18 on January 10, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
Toldos Avraham Yitzchok Tish.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 10, 2017, 09:38:13 AM
Hilton certs, get the CC or buy for 200-250.
But honestly isn't much need, just stay by one of the cheaper ones.
Certs are only good on weekends?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 10, 2017, 09:39:16 AM
Certs are only good on weekends?
Officially.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: 12HRS on January 10, 2017, 09:40:30 AM
Officially.

they shut it down good a while ago for use on other days. are you saying its still possible?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: jj1000 on January 10, 2017, 09:44:15 AM
JTZ, I can't believe no one told you about the segway tour of Jerusalem :)

Also a lot of activities listed take considerable amounts of walking or hiking, make sure you know what you are getting into.

I agree with Freddie that a tour guide can add a lot of flavor to a visit.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 10, 2017, 09:49:18 AM
JTZ, I can't believe no one told you about the segway tour of Jerusalem :)

Also a lot of activities listed take considerable amounts of walking or hiking, make sure you know what you are getting into.

I agree with Freddie that a tour guide can add a lot of flavor to a visit.
I seen the Segway tour in one of the TR's. Probably will be doing several day tours.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: jj1000 on January 10, 2017, 10:02:58 AM
Probably will be doing several day tours.
Good.

Are you allowed to see dome of the rock? (According to halacha you can't)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Redbull3 on January 10, 2017, 10:11:32 AM
Air Canada, Delta, or United are $3.3K from ORD-TLV via YYZ, JFK, or EWR. That should be about 165K AMEX Biz Plat points after 50% rebate.
Can't go wrong with any of those.
Unless I can grab an award flight with out much time invested this is a sure winner for me.
n00b q.. I would need 660k to book this for 2 RT, right?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 10, 2017, 10:13:00 AM
JTZ, I can't believe no one told you about the segway tour of Jerusalem :)

Also a lot of activities listed take considerable amounts of walking or hiking, make sure you know what you are getting into.

I agree with Freddie that a tour guide can add a lot of flavor to a visit.
the site of the last terrorist attack
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 10, 2017, 10:13:44 AM
Are you allowed to see dome of the rock? (According to halacha you can't)
Yes.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 10, 2017, 10:15:01 AM
n00b q.. I would need 660k to book this for 2 RT, right?
Yes. That will put a small dent in your stash.  :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Redbull3 on January 10, 2017, 10:19:43 AM
Yes. That will put a small dent in your stash.  :)
Your stash maybe!  :-[ I don't have nor never had that amount of MR at a time.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: 12HRS on January 10, 2017, 10:25:42 AM
Your stash maybe!  :-[ I don't have nor never had that amount of MR at a time.

time to up your ms game
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: David Smith on January 10, 2017, 10:27:53 AM
n00b q.. I would need 660k to book this for 2 RT, right?
660 to book in one shot, 495 to book 24 hours apart.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 10, 2017, 10:28:49 AM
660 to book in one shot, 495 to book 24 hours apart.
Rebate posts that fast?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: 12HRS on January 10, 2017, 10:30:27 AM
Rebate posts that fast?

yea but you take a bigger risk if something goes wrong with the flights since the itinerary is separate.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Redbull3 on January 10, 2017, 10:31:45 AM
660 to book in one shot, 495 to book 24 hours apart.
Ah.. 445 no?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: David Smith on January 10, 2017, 10:32:07 AM
Rebate posts that fast?
More like 48 hours, actually.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2017, 10:32:18 AM
yea but you take a bigger risk if something goes wrong with the flights since the itinerary is separate.
Meh, NBD.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: 12HRS on January 10, 2017, 10:37:17 AM
Meh, NBD.

would you say that traveling with a kid. I'm debating doing 2 tickets together(parent+kid) and then 1(other parent) still NBD?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: YitzyS on January 10, 2017, 01:17:04 PM
The more I read, the more excited I get for a potential TR.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2017, 01:30:39 PM
would you say that traveling with a kid. I'm debating doing 2 tickets together(parent+kid) and then 1(other parent) still NBD?
I do it all the time.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: SamKey on January 11, 2017, 02:03:52 AM
JTZ, I can't believe no one told you about the segway tour of Jerusalem :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Proisrael on January 11, 2017, 06:36:19 AM
Hey JTZ if you make it to Haifa let me know would be happy to help you around the place!
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: as2 on January 11, 2017, 08:00:41 AM
This might turn into an Israel DO
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 11, 2017, 08:01:34 AM
Hey JTZ if you make it to Haifa let me know would be happy to help you around the place!
Thank you very much for the offer.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 11, 2017, 08:02:27 AM
This might turn into an Israel DO
If there isn't at least one the trip will be a failure.  :'(
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: as2 on January 11, 2017, 08:15:15 AM
If there isn't at least one the trip will be a failure.  :'(
True. This is going to be a TR I will not miss
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: efflpetzel on January 11, 2017, 11:34:25 AM
A visit to the Bedouins in Midbar Yehuda (jeeping). I did it this past summer. It was awesome. It's not just visiting history, it's watching it live! Must be done on a jeep tour. I did a 2 hour tour. Longer tours are available too. Anyone else here did that?
This is a must do
Toldos Avraham Yitzchok Tish.
Highly recommend this too
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: User6669 on January 11, 2017, 01:06:35 PM
yeah, Shabbos DO in Jerusalem

Photo watermark will be, "Photo was taken by a non-jew (http://www.shamash.org/lists/scj-faq/HTML/faq/07-15.html)".  ;)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: shulem92 on January 11, 2017, 01:15:37 PM
Photo watermark will be, "Photo was taken by a non-jew (http://www.shamash.org/lists/scj-faq/HTML/faq/07-15.html)".  ;)
How u gonna hyperlink a watermark?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: User6669 on January 11, 2017, 02:07:26 PM
I seen the Segway tour in one of the TR's. Probably will be doing several day tours.

If you're planning on doing a tour in Jerusalem PM me, I have a coupon.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 11, 2017, 02:21:39 PM
Just messing around looking at different tours but most sites don't have prices. Is this normal?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: jj1000 on January 11, 2017, 03:26:38 PM
Just messing around looking at different tours but most sites don't have prices. Is this normal?
Why post a price if everyone going will ask for a discount anyway? ;)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 11, 2017, 03:31:35 PM
Why post a price if everyone going will ask for a discount anyway? ;)
Starting price maybe?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 11, 2017, 03:35:52 PM
Just messing around looking at different tours but most sites don't have prices. Is this normal?
If you have to ask...
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ckmk47 on January 11, 2017, 04:29:55 PM
Just messing around looking at different tours but most sites don't have prices. Is this normal?
Maybe click around some more?  Whenever I looked, I found the prices somewhere.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 11, 2017, 05:14:16 PM
I realize this might be the wrong language for you, but the numbers are kind of universal.

http://www.gojerusalem.co.il/subcategory/173/סיורי-סגווי/

http://m.zu-zu.co.il/segway-tour-jerusalem-old-city-he.html

Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 11, 2017, 05:29:03 PM
Just messing around looking at different tours but most sites don't have prices. Is this normal?
Many activities you see online are third party booking agents and not the actual provider. The prices can fluctuate depending on the wording and language of your request.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: User6669 on January 11, 2017, 05:50:23 PM
Many activities you see online are third party booking agents and not the actual provider. The prices can fluctuate depending on the wording and language and accent of your request.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: as2 on January 11, 2017, 06:01:22 PM
Many activities you see online are third party booking agents and not the actual provider. The prices can fluctuate depending on the wording and language of your request.
+1000
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 11, 2017, 08:17:25 PM
Here's the English version of one of the sites I posted above. Looks like it's $55 per person for 2 people joining a group guided tour, or $80 on a private tour.

http://m.zu-zu.co.il/segway-tours-jerusalem.html
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 11, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
Here's the English version of one of the sites I posted above. Looks like it's $55 per person for 2 people joining a group guided tour, or $80 on a private tour.

http://m.zu-zu.co.il/segway-tours-jerusalem.html
Thanks!
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: maxie m on January 12, 2017, 04:22:51 PM
Jeeping in Yehuda will bring you right up to al quds West Bank, do them together ;), zuzu also has bike tours at night through shaar Shechem and the surrounding areas, if your in netanya at all, they have hang gliding by the beach pretty nice
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: PillanSmye on January 12, 2017, 07:06:24 PM
It is no longer a question of if but when. It will be for DW and I. First I want to thank everyone that has helped so far!!!


Thanks for doing all the leg work for me with this thread  ;)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 13, 2017, 01:14:57 AM
Thanks for doing all the leg work for me with this thread  ;)
How about a double date?  :-*
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: mmgfarb on January 13, 2017, 01:18:42 AM
How about a double date?  :-*
The DDF goyim could got to Israel together
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: PillanSmye on January 13, 2017, 02:52:12 AM
How about a double date?  :-*

LOL.  I need to figure if I'm going solo or with the family.  If solo, I'm definitely doing an Eilat-Petra-Wadi Rum-Eilat excursion.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Z56 on January 13, 2017, 05:40:58 AM
Let's make a DO when you come
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 13, 2017, 07:12:45 AM
LOL.  I need to figure if I'm going solo or with the family.  If solo, I'm definitely doing an Eilat-Petra-Wadi Rum-Eilat excursion.
If solo you bring the hardware and we will visit Gaza.  ;)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 13, 2017, 07:18:46 AM
If solo you bring the hardware and we will visit Gaza.  ;)
Can I be in your will?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 13, 2017, 07:23:30 AM
Can I be in your will?
Every time I come up with these ideas DW doubles my life insurance.  :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 13, 2017, 07:29:01 AM
Every time I come up with these ideas DW doubles my life insurance.  :)
You can name Emkay in your will as long as I am named as beneficiary of your life insurance  :D
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 13, 2017, 07:37:32 AM
If solo you bring the hardware and we will visit Gaza.  ;)
In all seriousness, if you happen to head down south maybe check out Sderot. It's been nicknamed the "bomb shelter capital of the world".  Every bus stop is a bomb shelter and playground rides are basically themed bombs shelters.
If you bring enough candy and cigarettes for the soldiers by the border you can use their high powered binoculars to check out a view of war torn Gaza. The closest you will prob ever get.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 13, 2017, 07:38:06 AM
You can name Emkay in your will as long as I am named as beneficiary of your life insurance  :D
Put a fork in my idea.  >:(
"U.S. government employees are not allowed to travel to Gaza"
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 13, 2017, 07:39:16 AM
In all seriousness, if you happen to head down south maybe check out Sderot. It's been nicknamed the "bomb shelter capital of the world".  Every bus stop is a bomb shelter and playground rides are basically themed bombs shelters.
If you bring enough candy and cigarettes for the soldiers by the border you can use their high powered binoculars to check out a view of war torn Gaza. The closest you will prob ever get.
That brings up another question. Should tourist know where bomb shelters are located?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 13, 2017, 07:42:46 AM
That brings up another question. Should tourist know where bomb shelters are located?
They are everywhere. In Sderot you have 19 seconds to get to one. Every single house, bus stop, and public building has. There is no discrimination, everyone runs into the first one whether it's public or someones house. In Jerusalem BH area there isn't much need but every single building has one, during times of active war the government paints signs in public places with arrows toward shelters.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 13, 2017, 08:02:03 AM
Put a fork in my idea.  >:(
"U.S. government employees are not allowed to travel to Gaza"
Oh. So you have a pension. You can keep your wife as beneficiary of that one (would need her consent to change that anyways) but you can still name me as beneficiary of your life insurance.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: PillanSmye on January 13, 2017, 08:38:27 AM
That brings up another question. Should tourist know where bomb shelters are located?

How are you going to take pictures of all the action in a shelter?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 13, 2017, 08:57:56 AM
My daughter wants to go to Israel for a family wedding. When my son, who had joined us in the past for a family wedding in Israel heard about it, all he could say was that she will be bored. He said to her: at least when I was there, something interesting was going on (referring to missiles being shot from Gaza and shot down by iron dome - including the famous one of a missile being shot down during the chupa).
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 13, 2017, 09:35:39 AM
How are you going to take pictures of all the action in a shelter?
That's what you are for.  :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: MeirS on January 13, 2017, 04:17:09 PM
@JTZ

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7821.msg1650716.msg#1650716
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 17, 2017, 10:19:26 AM
Has anyone been to Petra. DW added it to the list.  >:(
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: jj1000 on January 17, 2017, 10:20:42 AM
Has anyone been to Petra. DW added it to the list.  >:(
Many people have, supposed to be beautiful. Man you are making this one week thing impossible though.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Freddie on January 17, 2017, 10:21:46 AM
Has anyone been to Petra. DW added it to the list.  >:(

Disclaimer: I have never been. But tell your wife that there's no time for that. You'll have a second trip to Israel. If you were going for 2 weeks you wouldn't see everything you'd want to see in Israel. And you're only going for one week.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 17, 2017, 10:21:55 AM
Has anyone been to Petra. DW added it to the list.  >:(
Yes. Though they are trying to tighten restrictions on day visitors.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 17, 2017, 10:23:34 AM
Many people have, supposed to be beautiful. Man you are making this one week thing impossible though.
Disclaimer: I have never been. But tell your wife that there's no time for that. You'll have a second trip to Israel. If you were going for 2 weeks you wouldn't see everything you'd want to see in Israel. And you're only going for one week.
If we like it (Israel) I can see a return visit not being an issue.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: jj1000 on January 17, 2017, 10:24:55 AM
If we like it (Israel) I can see a return visit not being an issue.
It's just traveling is one day, possibly another day for jet lag, Petra would be 2 days likely, and now you have 3 days for Israel, you won't even get out of Jerusalem with that much time...
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 17, 2017, 11:27:16 AM
Has anyone been to Petra. DW added it to the list.  >:(
You would want to do a side trip from israel over land? would fly from TLV?
or fly RJ direct from ORD to AMM and spend a day there and then continue on via land or air?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on January 17, 2017, 11:29:04 AM
Can't do Petra and Israel in a week.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Freddie on January 17, 2017, 11:50:01 AM
The people have spoken. @JTZ, tell your wife that Petra ain't happening.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 17, 2017, 11:50:19 AM
Can't do Petra and Israel in a week.
Keep in mind that not everyone travels like the classic DDFer. While most here won't think of spending more than 2 days (besides shabbos) in Madrid, Rome, Prague.... Ask the average tourist and the standard responses are a week, 10 days, two weeks...
Everyone here says you need weeks to see Israel but for most travelers is it really different than say Portugal or Italy?
Not everyone has a personal connection to Israel and if someone can properly "do" Rome in a day you can do Jerusalem in one also.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Yammer on January 17, 2017, 11:51:28 AM
Keep in mind that not everyone travels like the classic DDFer. While most here won't think of spending more than 2 days (besides shabbos) in Madrid, Rome, Prague.... Ask the average tourist and the standard responses are a week, 10 days, two weeks...
Everyone here says you need weeks to see Israel but for most travelers is it really different than say Portugal or Italy?
Not everyone has a personal connection to Israel and if someone can properly "do" Rome in a day you can do Jerusalem in one also.
Good point
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: jj1000 on January 17, 2017, 11:57:07 AM
Keep in mind that not everyone travels like the classic DDFer. While most here won't think of spending more than 2 days (besides shabbos) in Madrid, Rome, Prague.... Ask the average tourist and the standard responses are a week, 10 days, two weeks...
Everyone here says you need weeks to see Israel but for most travelers is it really different than say Portugal or Italy?
Not everyone has a personal connection to Israel and if someone can properly "do" Rome in a day you can do Jerusalem in one also.
It depends on the type of trip he wants, but along the same lines I'd be shocked if h goes back a 2nd time.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: gubevo18 on January 17, 2017, 01:17:30 PM
Has anyone been to Petra. DW added it to the list.  >:(
yes I have. Definitely beautiful. I don't know how feasible it is as it would rip -minimum -two days out of your trip if you want to do it properly.
If you do end up going and ATV'ing is your thing it is worth it to check out ATV'ing at Wadi Ram (or rum- don't remember the correct spelling). Open desert type, not the forest obstacle course type. And IIRC it is not that far out of the way from Eilat on the way to Petra.
With kids though, I'd imagine it would nt work.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Freddie on January 17, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
It depends on the type of trip he wants, but along the same lines I'd be shocked if h goes back a 2nd time.

My prediction is that he goes back multiple times and dreams of retiring there.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Yehuda57 on January 17, 2017, 01:49:54 PM
This thread make me think of Freddie pounding his fists and screaming at his monitor wondering how JTZ is gonna end up at the Kosel before he makes it to the Ohel.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Freddie on January 17, 2017, 01:51:09 PM
This thread make me think of Freddie pounding his fists and screaming at his monitor wondering how JTZ is gonna end up at the Kosel before he makes it to the Ohel.

That is a very, very good point. You've thrown down the gauntlet. (PM'ing @JTZ now...)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 17, 2017, 03:42:44 PM
or fly RJ direct from ORD to AMM and spend a day there and then continue on via land or air?
That was my thinking when she mentioned it. I know from booking flights for members that AMM>TLV is a puddle jump.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on January 17, 2017, 03:44:44 PM
That was my thinking when she mentioned it. I know from booking flights for members that AMM>TLV is a puddle jump.
Times aren't always great. Crossing via land is also an option.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 17, 2017, 03:46:45 PM
My prediction is that he goes back multiple times and dreams of retiring there.
MBJ? Would 9/10 count for multiples?  ;)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 17, 2017, 03:47:15 PM
This thread make me think of Freddie pounding his fists and screaming at his monitor wondering how JTZ is gonna end up at the Kosel before he makes it to the Ohel.
Trying for some PC?  :P
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: JTZ on January 17, 2017, 03:49:27 PM
Keep in mind that not everyone travels like the classic DDFer. While most here won't think of spending more than 2 days (besides shabbos) in Madrid, Rome, Prague.... Ask the average tourist and the standard responses are a week, 10 days, two weeks...
Everyone here says you need weeks to see Israel but for most travelers is it really different than say Portugal or Italy?
Not everyone has a personal connection to Israel and if someone can properly "do" Rome in a day you can do Jerusalem in one also.
+1
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 17, 2017, 03:50:20 PM
Times aren't always great. Crossing via land is also an option.
Especially if going to Petra. Though I've never been there or crossed over, I would imagine that if you fly into AMM (which as I suggested, might make sense from ORD) and head from there to Petra, crossing over at the Rabin Crossing down south makes more sense, and then work your way up north on the Israeli side. I would imagine infrastructure is better. Also, somewhere along the route you might go on a camelback or donkey back (which if I understand correctly is a practical way for reaching the last mile to Petra).
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Yehuda57 on January 17, 2017, 03:56:14 PM
Trying for some PC?  :P

Not in the slightest! I'd be up for a Ohel/770 DO, Israel/Petra will be much harder for me to crack.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: PillanSmye on January 17, 2017, 07:54:15 PM
LOL.  I need to figure if I'm going solo or with the family.  If solo, I'm definitely doing an Eilat-Petra-Wadi Rum-Eilat excursion.


Has anyone been to Petra. DW added it to the list.  >:(

Sounds like a smart lady  8)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dawie on January 18, 2017, 10:59:49 AM
Has anyone been to Petra. DW added it to the list.  >:(
Yes, it's really incredible (especially if you;re old enough to remember /enjoy Indiana Jones)

Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: MeirS on January 30, 2017, 09:31:41 AM
It is no longer a question of if but when. It will be for DW and I. First I want to thank everyone that has helped so far!!!
Time frame will be anytime after 8/1. Can fly on any day.  ;)
Will leave from ORD. Would like business/first flight with easy connection and not to long of a layover. Been looking at Swiss and Turkish so far.
Have MR, UR, HGP, UA, and AA. Can generate anything else except SPG.
Would like to be centrally located to see the sites.
DW loves to shop. She can spend all day at a mall. She also wants to float in the Dead Sea.
Open to any and all suggestions.
Any updates on interesting plans?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on January 30, 2017, 12:59:43 PM
Are you figuring in these into your itinerary?
http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/.premium-1.768287?v=390A6477890D1382B5BAF6318278C1E3
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Geshmak25 on February 24, 2017, 10:34:03 AM
Air Canada isn't on the Amex plat airline list, no?

Air Canada isn't on the Amex plat airline list, no?

J & F don't need to be on the list.
What about premium economy?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: mmgfarb on February 24, 2017, 10:37:07 AM
What about premium economy?
Only J and F are universal.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: 12HRS on April 20, 2017, 01:08:34 PM
I think we need to move this to JS so JTZ can keep us updated.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on April 27, 2017, 11:28:12 AM
Talk about the exact thread I was hoping for!
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: MeirS on April 27, 2017, 11:32:44 AM
Talk about the exact thread I was hoping for!
Chaim you were never on Israel? I was almost sure we are in the Mir together!
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on April 27, 2017, 11:34:48 AM
Chaim you were never on Israel? I was almost sure we are in the Mir together!
People get me confused all the time.  :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Freddie on April 27, 2017, 11:36:20 AM
Talk about the exact thread I was hoping for!

Welcome back, Chaim. You were away for a while, yes?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on April 27, 2017, 11:38:49 AM
Welcome back, Chaim. You were away for a while, yes?
Yes, sometimes you just need a break. I feel refreshed now.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: jj1000 on April 27, 2017, 11:41:36 AM
Can we get this man some likes!

Blessed be the one who resurrects the dead.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on April 27, 2017, 11:41:45 AM
Before I start asking questions I want to thank JTZ for starting this thread. It would be great if we could both go at the same time.

What would be the best time from Oct going forward?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: 12HRS on April 27, 2017, 11:42:18 AM
Can we get this man some likes!

risky move
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on April 27, 2017, 11:43:15 AM
Can we get this man some likes!
What's up? A little birdie told me what your favorite dish has become.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: jj1000 on April 27, 2017, 11:44:24 AM
What's up? A little birdie told me what your favorite dish has become.
Nah, some noob ate all the crow around here while you were gone.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on April 27, 2017, 11:45:06 AM
Nah, some noob ate all the crow around here while you were gone.
Have to read up on this crow stuff.  :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: as2 on April 27, 2017, 11:47:14 AM


Blessed be the one who resurrects the dead.

It's amazing what a lunch at Milt's can do

Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: TimT on April 27, 2017, 11:48:23 AM
It would be great if we could both go at the same time.
Bring this (https://www.amazon.com/Goody-Hand-Mirror-27847-Pack/dp/B001VD9R4A/ref=sr_1_6_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1493307991&sr=8-6&keywords=Mirror) along. I hear it attracts him.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: MeirS on April 27, 2017, 11:53:49 AM


It would be great if we could both go at the same time.

Rumor has it that he fell off the deep end. I wouldn't wait around for him.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: AsherO on April 27, 2017, 12:06:27 PM
Talk about the exact thread I was hoping for!

Welcome back, can't believe you've never been to Israel, Chaim. So your trip plans aren't confused with the OP's, I recommend you start a new thread.

People get me confused all the time.  :)

Never! You're one of a kind!
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on April 27, 2017, 01:07:13 PM
Before I start asking questions I want to thank JTZ for starting this thread. It would be great if we could both go at the same time.

What would be the best time from Oct going forward?
Can't go in September?

First 2 weeks of October is Sukkos season and flights/hotels will be pricey, but end of October should be decent.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on April 27, 2017, 01:10:32 PM
Weather wise, good?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on April 27, 2017, 01:12:08 PM
Weather wise, good?
I don't think anyone can predict.

I've been to JLM in late November and it was very hot, and it can also get quite cold and possibly rainy in October.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on April 27, 2017, 01:14:13 PM
Weather wise, good?
September is probably better. Less rain. But October should be better than November.
http://www.holiday-weather.com/jerusalem/averages/
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on May 03, 2017, 12:28:05 AM
Before I start asking questions I want to thank JTZ for starting this thread. It would be great if we could both go at the same time.

What would be the best time from Oct going forward?
Best would be if we can get JTZ to put a like on this post.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: as2 on May 03, 2017, 12:31:26 AM
Best would be if we can get JTZ to put a like on this post.
Keep dreaming buddy... He has one career like given
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Emkay on September 25, 2017, 10:08:30 AM
Plans shelved for the time being?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on September 26, 2017, 12:06:30 PM
Pushed to next year. Hip is feeling great. Oct is LAS/LAX, Nov is Mexico, Dec off limits (maybe a couple days in LAS), Jan is Jamaica then I am open.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on September 26, 2017, 12:07:29 PM
Pushed to next year. Hip is feeling great. Oct is LAS/LAX, Nov is Mexico, Dec off limits (maybe a couple days in LAS), Jan is Jamaica then I am open.
March and May are great times to visit.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on September 26, 2017, 12:19:14 PM
March and May are great times to visit.
Any major holidays to avoid during those months?
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on September 26, 2017, 12:25:53 PM
Any major holidays to avoid during those months?
Pesach is March 30-April 7. Other than around that, March-May should have good weather and shoulder season pricing.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on September 26, 2017, 12:26:37 PM
Any major holidays to avoid during those months?
Purim in JLM is probably something worth seeing, it's only 2 days (one day outside JLM, one day in JLM)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on September 26, 2017, 12:35:07 PM
Purim in JLM is probably something worth seeing, it's only 2 days (one day outside JLM, one day in JLM)
Do I get to dress up and eat those triangle cookies?  :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Something Fishy on September 26, 2017, 12:38:21 PM
Do I get to dress up and eat those triangle cookies?  :)

You could dress up like so:

(http://www.snopes.com/photos/odd/graphics/purimsanta.jpg)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: TimT on September 26, 2017, 01:25:03 PM
Do I get to dress up and eat those triangle cookies?  :)
Drinking is a must
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on September 26, 2017, 01:42:07 PM
Drinking is a must
Until you don't know the difference between Trump and Clinton.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: TimT on September 26, 2017, 01:45:55 PM
Until you don't know the difference between Trump and Clinton.
Gonna take quite a lot of drinking for that to happen. Even then, CM will still be able to tell them apart.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Work-for-ur-muny on September 26, 2017, 09:12:30 PM
Until you don't know the difference between Trump and Clinton.
Which one is Mordechai??  :P
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: TimT on September 26, 2017, 09:13:28 PM
Which one is Mordechai??  :P
We know that Hillary is Vashti
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on September 26, 2017, 09:13:48 PM
Which one is Mordechai??  :P
Can't tell  :P
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Dan on September 26, 2017, 09:17:07 PM
We know that Hillary is Vashti
And Trump is Achashveirosh:

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/mirror-moments-purim-then-and-now/

Match made in heaven!

Plus he used to be her biggest fan before he had a change in heart and did her in.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: TimT on September 26, 2017, 09:25:37 PM
And Trump is Achashveirosh:

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/mirror-moments-purim-then-and-now/

Match made in heaven!

Plus he used to be her biggest fan before he had a change in heart and did her in.
I was thinking more along the lines of Ivanka being Esther & being a descendant would thus make him Mordechai :)
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: yitrap on September 26, 2017, 10:27:20 PM
Purim in JLM is probably something worth seeing, it's only 2 days (one day outside JLM, one day in JLM)
I think it goes into Shabbos this year, should be fun. Last time we had this schedule there was a DDS Motzi Shabbos.
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Yammer on September 27, 2017, 01:49:47 AM
Which one is Mordechai?? 
For that you need to read a few million posts...
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: Yammer on September 27, 2017, 01:51:51 AM
Any major holidays to avoid during those months?

Pesach is March 30-April 7. Other than around that, March-May should have good weather and shoulder season pricing.
From Rosh Chodesh Nissan until Pesach you'll have litterly no tourists anywhere
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on September 27, 2017, 11:01:51 AM
I was going to complain about taking this thread OT but then ...
Title: Re: Help a n00b experience what Israel has to offer.
Post by: ExGingi on October 28, 2018, 11:40:24 AM
Any suggestions on good places to spend a couple of hours when traveling with an infant?