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Title: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: AsherO on May 16, 2011, 06:18:09 PM
Imagine DDF had a system (e.g. this one (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2234)) where you can rate every post you read, you can then filter posts by their ratings to only see posts with higher ratings.

Since SMF doesn't (yet) have a proper wiki system, I was thinking something like this would help prioritize posts with pertinent information so that people don't drown in those 25+ page threads. I really think this would make the forums much more navigable.

Mods, would this even (possibly) be feasible?
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: AsherO on May 16, 2011, 08:22:26 PM
It would also cut most topics in half simply by eliminating the +1 posts

lol, you're right.
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: aussiebochur on May 16, 2011, 09:37:01 PM
On the help page looks like that have Wiki, http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Profile
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: Mikeoracle on May 16, 2011, 09:59:51 PM
I like this idea.
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: myb821 on May 16, 2011, 10:01:40 PM
i think it would be very helpful in navigating this site. When i started i was very interested in the citi aa cards but it was hard to get good info cause that thread was so cluttered with useless posts
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2011, 10:06:59 PM
Mods, would this even (possibly) be feasible?
No idea, but if you find a mod that does that feel free to post and I'll pass it on to Eli.
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: AsherO on May 16, 2011, 10:18:24 PM
No idea, but if you find a mod that does that feel free to post and I'll pass it on to Eli.

Didn't you see the link in the OP? That was from a cursory Google search, there might be others too.

What do you think about the idea in general?
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: Ergel on May 16, 2011, 10:30:33 PM
one major problem with the idea is that in a lot of threads the discussion is sequential and not having it in order would render it unreadable
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: AsherO on May 16, 2011, 11:03:06 PM
one major problem with the idea is that in a lot of threads the discussion is sequential and not having it in order would render it unreadable

That's why nested/hierarchical conversations would be great, but I didn't find an SMF mod for that.
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2011, 11:07:42 PM
Didn't you see the link in the OP? That was from a cursory Google search, there might be others too.

What do you think about the idea in general?
I see it now, I was on my phone when I first read this thread.

Another issue is the same we had with with karma in the old days.
Someone gets angry at someone else and will downgrade all of his posts and then vice versa.

A wiki is what we really need, but I have yet to see a stable wiki mod.
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: AsherO on May 17, 2011, 12:27:40 AM
Someone gets angry at someone else and will downgrade all of his posts and then vice versa.

The human condition... SMH

Maybe there's a mod (for this mod) to mitigate that :P

A wiki is what we really need, but I have yet to see a stable wiki mod.

At least you agree on that. Any chance we can migrate from SMF? Or what we'll gain with added features will be cancelled out by new bugs/issues?

Notice that no one only voted 'it would be awesome', they all also voted 'we need a wiki'.
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: smurf on May 17, 2011, 01:45:48 AM
seems like ddf is immune to the 2 browser trick :D
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: AsherO on May 17, 2011, 02:37:10 AM
seems like ddf is immune to the 2 browser trick :D

Cheaters never prosper.

I think we're (all 22 votes are) doing good so far, 15 not-opposed vs. 7 opposed... It's really more of a point I'm trying to make. DDF could use improvement in this one department.

Looks like either no indecisive people here, or indecisive DDF'ers don't vote :D
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: henche on May 17, 2011, 02:49:45 AM
I think we're (all 22 votes are) doing good so far, 15 not-opposed vs. 7 opposed.

It'd be more convincing if you framed it as "15 in favor".
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: AsherO on May 17, 2011, 02:52:12 AM
It'd be more convincing if you framed it as "15 in favor".

How about 15 at least curious. I'm trying to be (seem?) objective here ;)
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: ? on May 17, 2011, 07:09:44 AM
Imagine DDF had a system (e.g. this one (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2234)) where you can rate every post you read, you can then filter posts by their ratings to only see posts with higher ratings.

Since SMF doesn't (yet) have a proper wiki system, I was thinking something like this would help prioritize posts with pertinent information so that people don't drown in those 25+ page threads. I really think this would make the forums much more navigable.

Mods, would this even (possibly) be feasible?

Or maybe (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7316.msg83867#msg83867)...
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: whYME on May 17, 2011, 05:31:24 PM
I think it would help a little bit but not solve the problem.
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: Q274 on May 17, 2011, 06:15:20 PM
What I don't understand is, for dan the forums helps him make some $- and great for him- but don't you think that all this dumb talk abt n00bs is encouraging them to go to other forums where they can get the info without harrassment- thereby being bad for dan.
Honestly I don't know why these discussions are even allowed. I know a bunch of people who decided to go elsewhere bec every thread ends up in a useless bicker.
I think if a mod has an issue with a post send a pm to the poster abt what the issue is.
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: AsherO on May 17, 2011, 06:39:07 PM
What I don't understand is, for dan the forums helps him make some $- and great for him- but don't you think that all this dumb talk abt n00bs is encouraging them to go to other forums where they can get the info without harrassment- thereby being bad for dan.
Honestly I don't know why these discussions are even allowed. I know a bunch of people who decided to go elsewhere bec every thread ends up in a useless bicker.
I think if a mod has an issue with a post send a pm to the poster abt what the issue is.

Arguably the n00bs hurt the site by making it harder for anyone to find information and by discouraging the regulars (who actually contribute) to keep frequenting the site and providing answers to all these noobs' questions.

I'm not saying that's my position, but it's a valid counter-argument.
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: Q274 on May 17, 2011, 08:50:18 PM
So I think the poll should really be why don't you frequent the site- bec of noobs or bec of the useless bickering.
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: YOSEF on May 17, 2011, 11:48:05 PM
Don't you think that all this dumb talk abt n00bs is encouraging them to go to other forums where they can get the info without harrassment- thereby being bad for dan.
Honestly I don't know why these discussions are even allowed. I know a bunch of people who decided to go elsewhere bec every thread ends up in a useless bicker.
I think if a mod has an issue with a post send a pm to the poster abt what the issue is.

+1
Until there is a system in place for nooBs to ask away, we really shouldn't be flaming them and telling them to search etc.  Alot of times they do, and they were already in the wrong board or they looked for the wrong keywords etc.
Not everyone is adept to the system, hence the term nooBs and we should try and help them, not get upset.
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: Deal Guy on May 18, 2011, 12:16:24 AM
Arguably the n00bs hurt the site by making it harder for anyone to find information and by discouraging the regulars (who actually contribute) to keep frequenting the site and providing answers to all these noobs' questions.

I'm not saying that's my position, but it's a valid counter-argument.
Hey, your new signature font make me dizzy. Can you modify it a bit for me?
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: arie on May 18, 2011, 12:18:52 AM
Hey, your new signature font make me dizzy. Can you modify it a bit for me?
was just gonna say the same thing. its just a bit too long, so when scrolling down, it seems like a post :D
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: Deal Guy on May 18, 2011, 12:27:17 AM
was just gonna say the same thing. its just a bit too long, so when scrolling down, it seems like a post :D
No. I'm referring to the actual font. I doesn't look as clear as the font on the actual forums, and it gets me somewhat dizzy. (If he would only post once per day..... ;D ;D)
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: AsherO on May 18, 2011, 01:59:17 AM
So I think the poll should really be why don't you frequent the site- bec of noobs or bec of the useless bickering.

1. I wonder why you feel so threatened by it (or me?).
2. It's my poll, post your own if you have a different question.
3. It's about a software improvement, not about n00bs at all, so stop making it about something it isn't.

Until there is a system in place for nooBs to ask away, we really shouldn't be flaming them and telling them to search etc.  Alot of times they do, and they were already in the wrong board or they looked for the wrong keywords etc.
Not everyone is adept to the system, hence the term nooBs and we should try and help them, not get upset.

Just because they are n00bs, doesn't mean they don't have to conform to basic netiquette (http://www.livinginternet.com/i/ia_nq.htm).
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: Avid Reader on May 18, 2011, 04:49:44 AM

Another issue is the same we had with with karma in the old days.
Someone gets angry at someone else and will downgrade all of his posts and then vice versa.

I feel the same.

And yes, the most helpful things would probably be a wiki, and a flame free thread for newbies to ask away.

+1
Until there is a system in place for nooBs to ask away, we really shouldn't be flaming them and telling them to search etc.  Alot of times they do, and they were already in the wrong board or they looked for the wrong keywords etc.
Not everyone is adept to the system, hence the term nooBs and we should try and help them, not get upset.

Makes sense. Let's keep the place friendly for them so they decide to stay, not intimidate them.
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: whYME on May 18, 2011, 12:47:17 PM
I think another good idea would be to have new users redirected to a page with some basic info (how to search, forum rules etc.)
I doubt anybody will actually read it but at least there's an excuse to flame them ;0
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: AsherO on May 18, 2011, 12:49:27 PM
I think another good idea would be to have new users redirected to a page with some basic info (how to search, forum rules etc.)
I doubt anybody will actually read it but at least there's an excuse to flame them ;0

lol. I already recommended this and I'm working on the post.
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: Q274 on May 19, 2011, 08:51:51 AM
Ok, so a point was made in a diff topic by ashero and I must say that believe it or not I actually agree to- the point was that, a lot of times when you get a lot of topics started in a specific threadit makes it that you can miss a legit topic- this is especially unfourtanate in the deals type threads.

So I thought abt it and i had an idea- now I know very little so it might not make sense but I am sure it can be tweaked- here it is:
Every thread should have a report to mod type button where it is specific to disliking the place of the topic or disliking the topic period- if the mod gets x amount of those clicks for that topic that topic is either removed or replaced.
This way nobody is insulted bec nobody knows who "voted" and the topic isn't necessarily removed just replaced.
Maybe even start a thread for all misplaced topics.
Does this make any sense at all??
Title: Re: Would you benefit from a post rating system on DDF?
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Does this make any sense at all??
No.  If something is misplaced or deserves its own thread then just use the report to mod button.