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Title: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: ceejay on May 18, 2011, 01:02:39 PM
It seems that there is wa y to disable this motion sensor from this PDF. Is there anyone who is in a hotel that can try?


http://www.inncom.com/INNCOM_Video/Level_2/E4SmartDigitalThermostat-OM_APP.pdf (http://www.inncom.com/INNCOM_Video/Level_2/E4SmartDigitalThermostat-OM_APP.pdf)


BTW this is for the Inncom thermostat which is pretty popular in most hotel chains
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: AsherO on May 18, 2011, 01:14:14 PM
It seems that there is wa y to disable it from this PDF. Is there anyone who is in a hotel that can try?


http://www.inncom.com/INNCOM_Video/Level_2/E4SmartDigitalThermostat-OM_APP.pdf (http://www.inncom.com/INNCOM_Video/Level_2/E4SmartDigitalThermostat-OM_APP.pdf)


BTW this is for the Inncom thermostat which is pretty popular in most hotel chains

AC works on a motion sensor? What if I want it on while I sleep?
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: myb821 on May 18, 2011, 01:15:09 PM
AC works on a motion sensor? What if I want it on while I sleep?
ive seen this in a number of hotels
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: ceejay on May 18, 2011, 01:28:47 PM
AC works on a motion sensor? What if I want it on while I sleep?(http://[url%3Dhttp://www.inncom.com/lib/download.php?tsize=380&RF_ITEM%5B%5D=Entry]http://www.inncom.com/lib/download.php?tsize=380&RF_ITEM%5B%5D=Entry$0@264%3BEntry)

Not sure but I know theyre in Hiltons... ICHG some Starwoods Hyatts

This is it.

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Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: Dan on May 18, 2011, 05:05:22 PM
Maintenance can disable them if you ask the front desk nicely.

In Hawaii most hotel balconies have AC sensors that I make sure to get disabled before shabbos.
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: dealer on May 18, 2011, 05:13:56 PM
Maintenance can disable them if you ask the front desk nicely.

In Hawaii most hotel balconies have AC sensors that I make sure to get disabled before shabbos.
sometimes the balcony and door sensors just have batteries, take 'em out
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: Dan on May 18, 2011, 05:19:20 PM
sometimes the balcony and door sensors just have batteries, take 'em out
Not IME in Hawaii.
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: moish on May 18, 2011, 07:56:25 PM
i just cover it with an undershirt
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: myb821 on May 18, 2011, 07:56:59 PM
i just cover it with an undershirt
then the air is off all shabbos
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: moish on May 18, 2011, 08:04:06 PM
it isnt though, similar to when you are asleep
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: Cholentfresser on May 18, 2011, 08:10:39 PM
so it stays on?
so how does it know if u r sleeping or if u aren't there??
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: Dan on May 18, 2011, 08:30:34 PM
i just cover it with an undershirt
Cover what?
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: moish on May 18, 2011, 08:34:50 PM
the sensor
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: Dan on May 18, 2011, 08:37:30 PM
the sensor
In the Hawaiian hotels I've been in there is no visible sensor by the balcony.
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: moish on May 18, 2011, 08:43:30 PM
im referring to the one that's in the corner of the room where theres room in the back to tuck it in
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: Dan on May 18, 2011, 08:46:42 PM
im referring to the one that's in the corner of the room where theres room in the back to tuck it in
Doesn't exist in Sheraton HNL, Westin Moana Surfrider HNL, GH Kauai, Hyatt Maui, etc, etc.
Simple call to the FD does the trick.
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: henche on May 18, 2011, 08:47:05 PM
Put a perpetual motion machine in front of it.

Or just a fan.
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: moish on May 18, 2011, 08:48:53 PM
Put a perpetual motion machine in front of it.

Or just a fan.
quite practical
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: E on May 18, 2011, 09:00:23 PM
Maintenance can disable them if you ask the front desk nicely.

In Hawaii most hotel balconies have AC sensors that I make sure to get disabled before shabbos.
they are usually in the top of the door track and not motion sensors, but actual buttons/switches in the top.
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: aussiebochur on May 18, 2011, 09:34:06 PM
In the Hawaiian hotels I've been in there is no visible sensor by the balcony.
I would imagine that they are pressure sensors, similar to what some alarm systems use for doors. These must be disabled.

Moish is probably referring to motion sensors which can be covered and therefore won't be triggered by movement.
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: txtmax4 on May 19, 2011, 01:09:34 AM
Takeh, How does it work while you're sleeping?
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: elikay on May 19, 2011, 01:23:59 AM
I think we should make a thread for shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Title: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: henche on May 19, 2011, 02:29:33 AM
Don't forget to bring tea lights to light candles. Especially if you are a man, and aren't used to lighting candles.
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2011, 04:49:08 AM
I think we should make a thread for shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions

+1. Door locks would be another common example.
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: aussiebochur on May 19, 2011, 05:18:51 AM
Simple call to the FD does the trick.
Would think this would fix most problems.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2011, 05:30:02 AM
Don't forget to bring tea lights to light candles. Especially if you are a man, and aren't used to lighting candles.

Anyone ever set off the smoke alarm lighting candles? How'd you deal with that issue?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: aussiebochur on May 19, 2011, 05:38:58 AM
Anyone ever set off the smoke alarm lighting candles? How'd you deal with that issue?
Two tea lights shouldn't set it off.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2011, 05:40:26 AM
Two tea lights shouldn't set it off.

I know, I'm asking about any exceptions as I'm always afraid...
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moish on May 19, 2011, 05:43:03 AM
never had a problem, and ive lit on chanuka on the 8th night
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: aussiebochur on May 19, 2011, 05:44:25 AM
I think this is a bit further then an exception. What do you do if the alarm goes off by itself?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: aussiebochur on May 19, 2011, 05:49:51 AM
never had a problem, and ive lit on chanuka on the 8th night
I heard a hilarious story about someone who lit chanukah licht on an a plane.
Lit in the bathroom. Wanted his wife to be there as well. But in order for the smoke detector not to go off he took a blanket inside as well.
And you can't leave before half hour.
Can't imagine the look on peoples faces...

True story. And as the famous expression goes, "don't ask questions on a story".
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: HSS on May 19, 2011, 06:28:39 AM
I heard a hilarious story about someone who lit chanukah licht on an a plane.
Lit in the bathroom. Wanted his wife to be there as well. But in order for the smoke detector not to go off he took a blanket inside as well.
And you can't leave before half hour.
Can't imagine the look on peoples faces...

True story. And as the famous expression goes, "don't ask questions on a story".

lol
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 19, 2011, 10:58:58 AM
I heard a hilarious story about someone who lit chanukah licht on an a plane.
Lit in the bathroom. Wanted his wife to be there as well. But in order for the smoke detector not to go off he took a blanket inside as well.
And you can't leave before half hour.
Can't imagine the look on peoples faces...

True story. And as the famous expression goes, "don't ask questions on a story".

ROFL. If only it were true....
Title: Re: Motion sensor AC on Shabbos.
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 11:04:32 AM
+1. Door locks would be another common example.
I usually just tape a piece of cardboard over the female part of the door lock.
In a pinch I've just used the checked luggage sticker over the hole as well.
Just be sure to lock up valuables in the safe and put the DND sign on your door!
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 11:06:28 AM
Anyone ever set off the smoke alarm lighting candles? How'd you deal with that issue?
Nope, but we always light shabbos/chanukah candles on the balcony when possible.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: elikay on May 19, 2011, 11:14:08 AM
For anyone wanting to follow Dan's advice and light on the balcony just make sure to sit a little by the candles (the one who lights) as you are supposed to have hana'a from the candles.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: henche on May 19, 2011, 12:26:45 PM
RE: the lock.

You can put your key card in the latch when you close the door. The tension holds it in place, and this way you can lock it when you are inside.
Although, maybe it is better to tape and then just to use the chain when you are inside.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moish on May 19, 2011, 01:32:16 PM
For anyone wanting to follow Dan's advice and light on the balcony just make sure to sit a little by the candles (the one who lights) as you are supposed to have hana'a from the candles.
the whole point is to have hanaah. i would think lighting outside is very bedieved. probably better to turn on the bathroom light
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 01:36:03 PM
the whole point is to have hanaah. i would think lighting outside is very bedieved. probably better to turn on the bathroom light
When you're in Hawaii there's plenty of hann'ah sitting outside on an ocean-front balcony with your candles.

And the "point" is also not to set off a fire alarm and have the whole hotel evacuated and cause a C"H-and I have heard from others who have done that.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moish on May 19, 2011, 01:37:45 PM
When you're in Hawaii there's plenty of hann'ah sitting outside on an ocean-front balcony with your candles.

And the "point" is also not to set off a fire alarm and have the whole hotel evacuated and cause a C"H-and I have heard from others who have done that.
but do you actually sit outside though?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 01:49:26 PM
the whole point is to have hanaah. i would think lighting outside is very bedieved. probably better to turn on the bathroom light

but do you actually sit outside though?
You're missing the bigger point.  Would you also light a menorah or daven loudly with tefilin on standing up on a plane?  Why do it in a confined room where there are smoke detectors and the rules clearly say that candles can't be lit in the room.

Judaism requires common sense. 
"Whole point" is hanaah...Bathroom light would be better?  ::) ::) ::)

And yes, we ate many lovely dinners on the balcony in Hawaii with our menorah burning.
And the pirsumei nisah was incredible.  Others who noticed it also wanted to light candles on their balcony as well.

Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moish on May 19, 2011, 02:19:40 PM
i would not light a menora on a plane, but i also wouldnt put tefillin on my leg if my arms were in a cast. if the whole point of lighting the shabbos candles is to be nehena from it, it would not be advisable to light on the porch if you wouldnt be hanging out there. if you do hang out there, thats a different story. in my personal experience, ive yet to stay in a hotel where candles would stay lit on the porch for more than 10 seconds due to wind

i also do not light shabbos candles in the room simpy because i generally do not eat in the room and dont want to leave them unattended
i consulted with a very respectable rov who advised me to turn on the bathroom light
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moish on May 19, 2011, 02:22:23 PM
"Whole point" is hanaah...Bathroom light would be better?  ::) ::) ::)
absolutely! are you kidding? are you not nehena from the bathroom light on shabbos?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 02:33:28 PM
i would not light a menora on a plane, but i also wouldnt put tefillin on my leg if my arms were in a cast. if the whole point of lighting the shabbos candles is to be nehena from it, it would not be advisable to light on the porch if you wouldnt be hanging out there. if you do hang out there, thats a different story. in my personal experience, ive yet to stay in a hotel where candles would stay lit on the porch for more than 10 seconds due to wind

i also do not light shabbos candles in the room simpy because i generally do not eat in the room and dont want to leave them unattended
i consulted with a very respectable rov who advised me to turn on the bathroom light
In Hawaii most people probably do eat their Shabbos meals on the balcony.  Is regular rooms that's the only place where there's a table and chairs for starters.  And it's just darn pleasent outside so why wouldn't you?
And our shabbos and chanukah lights never went out on the balcony. Miracle?  I doubt it.

Having a hard believing this bathroom light business...what will misnagdim think of next ;)
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 02:35:10 PM
absolutely! are you kidding? are you not nehena from the bathroom light on shabbos?
I'd also be neheneh from lots of other things.  Doesn't mean that I would be yotzei shabbos/chanukah licht with them.

I guess on a plane though you would just switch on 8 reading lights going across the 777 for menorah too?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Cholentfresser on May 19, 2011, 02:38:27 PM
Turning on a light for shabbos candles has got to be a huge bedi'eved shebedi'eved.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: yid on May 19, 2011, 02:47:36 PM
if its incandescent then you would be yotzeh in such a case. in many hospitals where you cant light candles they give out electric "candlesticks" to light
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moish on May 19, 2011, 02:50:26 PM
its probably best to discuss it with a competent halachic authority

but i believe its definitely better to turn on a bathroom light than to light on the porch if you were not hanging out/eating there
Turning on a light for shabbos candles has got to be a huge bedi'eved shebedi'eved.
it probably is bedieved, but if theres no alternative, youre in a bedieved situation (if you plan on leaving the room, or dont feel comfortable having lights in the room which is against hotel poicy)
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 03:16:29 PM
its probably best to discuss it with a competent halachic authority

but i believe its definitely better to turn on a bathroom light than to light on the porch if you were not hanging out/eating thereit probably is bedieved, but if theres no alternative, youre in a bedieved situation (if you plan on leaving the room, or dont feel comfortable having lights in the room which is against hotel poicy)
Huh?  Are you hanging out/eating in the bathroom?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moish on May 19, 2011, 03:22:07 PM
you definitely use the bathroom over the course of shabbos, at least i do = nehena from the light
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: bosoxfan on May 19, 2011, 03:24:35 PM
"Judaism requires common sense." -Dan 

Which should include not putting yourself in a position where such issues come up. If you're not traveling for business, these factors should be taken into account while planning the trip.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 03:24:51 PM
you definitely use the bathroom over the course of shabbos, at least i do = nehena from the light
But you won't go out and chill on the balcony at night and have some hanaah.  Or better yet eat something by the shabbos licht?

If I didn't know better I'd say my leg was being pulled.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 03:28:22 PM
i disagree
Very well.
You light your licht where you urinate and defecate and I'll light them on the balcony...
And bosoxfan will just be at home.
:)
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moish on May 19, 2011, 03:29:06 PM
But you won't go out and chill on the balcony at night and have some hanaah.  Or better yet eat something by the shabbos licht?

If I didn't know better I'd say my leg was being pulled.
like i said, it was never an option for me to light a tealight on a porch logistic wise.
and i rarely ever venture out to the porch
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: bosoxfan on May 19, 2011, 03:30:12 PM

And bosoxfan will just be at home.
:)

It mat not be as simple for me to go away as it is for others. But I do travel, and Chabad definitely makes it easier. :)
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moish on May 19, 2011, 03:32:38 PM
You light your licht where you urinate and defecate and I'll light them on the balcony...
i dont light, i turn on light. and yes, im nehene from the light
and I'll light them on the balcony...
no problem. my only suggestion would be to run it by a competent halachic authority.
and btw, what do you do if you dont have a balcony/porch?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 03:44:48 PM
i dont light, i turn on light. and yes, im nehene from the light no problem. my only suggestion would be to run it by a competent halachic authority.
and btw, what do you do if you dont have a balcony/porch?
I'd be utterly shocked if any chabad rabbi told me to turn on a bathroom light for shabbos licht. 

In Hong Kong and Paris we had no balcony, but we lit at Chabad where we ate in those cases.
Most hotels in resort destinations (where they may not be a shul) tend to always have balconies, but in a pinch I would light where we were planning on eating and just keep an eye on them.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2011, 03:56:43 PM
i also do not light shabbos candles in the room simpy because i generally do not eat in the room and dont want to leave them unattended
i consulted with a very respectable rov who advised me to turn on the bathroom light

Do you make a bracha when 'lighting' the bathroom light? Inside the bathroom or out?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moish on May 19, 2011, 04:08:17 PM
i believe you do make a bracha. and that would be outside the bathroom
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: HSS on May 19, 2011, 04:58:36 PM
this whole thread cracks me up.... shkoyach guys for the entertainment
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: henche on May 19, 2011, 04:59:22 PM
Do you make a bracha when 'lighting' the bathroom light? Inside the bathroom or out?

asher yotzar
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Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moish on May 19, 2011, 05:06:26 PM
asher yotzar
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i dont follow
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 05:28:41 PM
i dont follow
Well, I LOL'ed.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moish on May 19, 2011, 05:37:33 PM
i see, shes saying not to make asher yatzar, cute
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2011, 08:34:35 PM
i see, shes saying not to make asher yatzar, cute

Well, would you say 'lahadlik ner shell shabbos kodesh'?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moish on May 19, 2011, 08:55:46 PM
i would assume so
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: U-no-me! on May 19, 2011, 09:02:16 PM
no, you would not say a bracha, but you should turn on the light specfically l'kovod shabos kodesh and you should probobly say l'kovod shabos kodesh. but this heter is a very big b'dieved and it's not so poshut to do it. the mekor is from r' akiva eiger.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: U-no-me! on May 19, 2011, 09:14:10 PM
also if you relied on this heter and you were not an oneis being that you relied on this l'chatchila (i.e. going to a hotel which you were not forced and you knew before hand that you would'nt light) and possibly even if you were an oneis you are most probobly mechuyav to light an extra candle every week for the rest of your life. a shailoh to a competent halakhic authority must be asked.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moish on May 19, 2011, 09:30:30 PM
unfortunately, you are just wrong
everything was done on the advice of a qualified posek

but on the bright side, thanks for contributing!
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: U-no-me! on May 19, 2011, 09:37:21 PM
unfortunately, you are just wrong
everything was done on the advice of a qualified posek

but on the bright side, thanks for contributing!
wrong about which points?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: AsherO on May 20, 2011, 04:28:53 AM
also if you relied on this heter and you were not an oneis being that you relied on this l'chatchila (i.e. going to a hotel which you were not forced and you knew before hand that you would'nt light) and possibly even if you were an oneis you are most probobly mechuyav to light an extra candle every week for the rest of your life.

That's for someone who forgot. If you made a mistake about what the halacha is or you relied on a heter/lenience, then I doubt that halacha applies.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: U-no-me! on May 21, 2011, 06:19:56 PM
That's for someone who forgot. If you made a mistake about what the halacha is or you relied on a heter/lenience, then I doubt that halacha applies.

Yes you are probably correct. Let me clarify that 1. This "kenas" of lighting an extra candle does not apply to a man who forgot or who was posheia (unless according to some opinions if he's the one that always lights i.e. he does not have a wife. 2. The reason for this "kenas" is "keday shetehay zehirah b'kvod shabbos" in order that she should be careful in the kavod of shabbos, and therefore it does not have to do if she forgot but rather if she was posheia (mishna berura) and also " Kaparah al shenichshala" (pri megadim, and toras shabbos) as an atonement that she was nichsahl.
Therefore if she couldn't light because of an "oneis" i.e she was sick or was in jail (or according to shu"t be'er sarim in the name of reb eyashiv if she was stuck in traffic and there was no way to light or according koveitz m'beis levi in the name of R' vosner if the clock was going slow and she didn't realize it was broken) than she does not have to light an extra candle but anything else she was doing and because of that there wasn't enough time to light it is not called a "oneis".
In our case if she went to the hotel and she knew beforehand she wouldn't be able to light she is probably a posheia and therefore that is part of the kenas.
Now if she turned on the light in the room "SPECIFICALLY" lkovod shabbos, than there might be room to be lenient but is not so simple.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: U-no-me! on May 21, 2011, 06:21:06 PM
There is a big machlokes haposkim if you are allowed to make a bracha on a light bulb as opposed to candles.
The ones that do not allow it are Shu"t Pekudas Eliezer  siman 22, Shu"t mashmia shalom siman 12, shu"t har tzvi volume 2 siman 114, shmiras shabbos kehilchoso chapter 43 hearah 22 in the name of R' shlomo zalman,.
And the ones that do allow it are Shu"t mahasham volume 8 siman 37, shu"t dvar halacha siman 39 among others also see Achiezer volume 3 siman 60 which talks about it. But even the ones that are matir it is on the condition that it is turned on specifically l'kovod shabbos. The bracha would be the regular bracha.
Another machlokes between the ones that are matir is if you are even allowd to make a bracha on a fluorescent light bulb as apposed to a regular light bulb.
Another point is that if you would be in a hotel in E"Y you definitely wouldn't make a bracha on the light since it is made through chillul shabbos (shu"t Az Nidbaru and shu"t Yabia Omer).
Also even the ones that are matir, it might only be if you are having your seuda by the light for the reason being "Shraga B'thara may mihanya" chulin 60b meaning a candle where there is already light what good is it (and would therefore be a bracha levatala). But if you would be eating there you might be able to do it (being that there is a separate machlokes of the reason of why we light.)
If anyone wants me to expound any more or the reasons behind anything, I'll try to do it.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: AsherO on May 21, 2011, 10:08:52 PM
Yes you are probably correct. Let me clarify that 1. This "kenas" of lighting an extra candle does not apply to a man who forgot or who was posheia (unless according to some opinions if he's the one that always lights i.e. he does not have a wife. 2. The reason for this "kenas" is "keday shetehay zehirah b'kvod shabbos" in order that she should be careful in the kavod of shabbos, and therefore it does not have to do if she forgot but rather if she was posheia (mishna berura) and also " Kaparah al shenichshala" (pri megadim, and toras shabbos) as an atonement that she was nichsahl.
Therefore if she couldn't light because of an "oneis" i.e she was sick or was in jail (or according to shu"t be'er sarim in the name of reb eyashiv if she was stuck in traffic and there was no way to light or according koveitz m'beis levi in the name of R' vosner if the clock was going slow and she didn't realize it was broken) than she does not have to light an extra candle but anything else she was doing and because of that there wasn't enough time to light it is not called a "oneis".
In our case if she went to the hotel and she knew beforehand she wouldn't be able to light she is probably a posheia and therefore that is part of the kenas.
Now if she turned on the light in the room "SPECIFICALLY" lkovod shabbos, than there might be room to be lenient but is not so simple.

So if someone relies on a kula/heter he is a posheia and the machmirim will bo koneis him? That makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: txtmax4 on May 22, 2011, 02:00:11 AM
I guess on a plane though you would just switch on 8 reading lights going across the 777 for menorah too?
And the "Shamosh" would be the pilot's light? ;D
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: txtmax4 on May 22, 2011, 02:09:53 AM
no, you would not say a bracha, but you should turn on the light specfically l'kovod shabos kodesh and you should probobly say l'kovod shabos kodesh. but this heter is a very big b'dieved and it's not so poshut to do it. the mekor is from r' akiva eiger.
Hmmm, interesting...
Rabbi Akiva Eiger passed away on 1837 while the electric lightblub was invented on 1879..
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: AsherO on May 22, 2011, 06:45:12 AM
Hmmm, interesting...
Rabbi Akiva Eiger passed away on 1837 while the electric lightblub was invented on 1879..

But of course RAE had ruach hakodesh ;)
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: U-no-me! on May 22, 2011, 06:21:44 PM
So if someone relies on a kula/heter he is a posheia and the machmirim will bo koneis him? That makes no sense at all.
You are correct that it makes no sense. i guess i'm not being that clear. No there will not be a knas if she is relying on a kula. the question is in what way did they allow the kula, it was only allowed in certain instances in certain ways otherwise you may not be yotzai, i.e. is the reason we light because of "oneg" or because of kovod" and that would make the diiference of where we have to light i.e. b'mokom seuda or in the rest of the house. maybe when i have more time i'll elaborate.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: U-no-me! on May 22, 2011, 06:28:28 PM
there seems to be confusion with the laws of hadlakas neiros i am therfore writing this to give some basic backround information.

Hadlakas Neiros Shabbos is a mitzvah m'dirabanan which goes all the way back to the days moshe rabeinu.

There is a machlokes rishonim (we will not list all of rishonim) of the reason of why we light: the mishna berura brings in the name tosafos in shabbos that reason is because of "oneg shabbos" on the other hand you have the rambam which in one place he writes it's because of "oneg" and in another place he writes that it is because of "kavod shabbos".

Both the pri megadim and Aruch Hashulchan explain that there is no contradiction in the rambam rather the rambam holds of both reasons.

The Pri Megadim explains it as following "oneg shabbos" means that you shouldn't eat where it is dark and "kavod shabbos" is for the rest of the house in order that "shelo yikashel b'eitz v'even" in order that you shouldn't bump into things.

On the other hand The Aruch Hashulchan Explains the reasons in the exact opposite, where you eat the reason is because of "kavod" and the rest of the house is because of "oneg".
Although the gemara in shabbos says the taam of hadlakas neiros is because of shalom bayis, the levush explains that it is not a third reason rather the machlokes rishonim is from where it stems does it stem from "oneg" or does it stem from kavod".

to be continued... if anyone wants
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: AsherO on May 22, 2011, 10:46:28 PM
You are correct that it makes no sense. i guess i'm not being that clear. No there will not be a knas if she is relying on a kula. the question is in what way did they allow the kula, it was only allowed in certain instances in certain ways otherwise you may not be yotzai, i.e. is the reason we light because of nullonegnull or because of kovodnull and that would make the diiference of where we have to light i.e. b'mokom seuda or in the rest of the house. maybe when i have more time i'll elaborate.

I'm glad I practice a different religion from you...
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: U-no-me! on May 23, 2011, 12:39:49 AM
I'm glad I practice a different religion from you...
didn't know lubavitch is a different religion.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: txtmax4 on May 23, 2011, 12:40:56 AM
didn't know lubavitch is a different religion.
Lubavitch is the closest religion to Judaism.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: AsherO on May 23, 2011, 01:03:46 AM
didn't know lubavitch is a different religion.

My religion is very different than yours, that's for sure. In my religion if I rely on a kula (from my LOR) I don't have to be worried that the reason for the kula might cause me to get a knas.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: U-no-me! on May 23, 2011, 01:09:06 AM
My religion is very different than yours, that's for sure. In my religion if I rely on a kula (from my LOR) I don't have to be worried that the reason for the kula might cause me to get a knas.
seriously dude, you missed the boat totaly. i don't know if i should even try clarifying again. The Kula "DOES NOT" always apply therefore if applied incorrectly may cause you to not be yotzai hadlaks neiros. If you did rely on the kula "when it was allowed" than NO than you would not get a knas.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: AsherO on May 23, 2011, 01:10:13 AM
seriously dude, you missed the boat totaly. i don't know if i should even try clarifying again. The Kula "DOES NOT" always apply therefore if applied incorrectly may cause you to not be yotzai hadlaks neiros. If you did rely on the kula "when it was allowed" than NO than you would not get a knas.

So you're suggested that a halachic mistake is grounds for a knas, and I'm saying it doesn't work that way in my religion.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: U-no-me! on May 23, 2011, 01:12:01 AM
So you're suggested that a halachic mistake is grounds for a knas, and I'm saying it doesn't work that way in my religion.
it depends on what you mean by a "halachic mistake". if the mistake is made out of complete ignorance than "possibly".
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: txtmax4 on May 23, 2011, 01:14:38 AM
So, back to the topic, how does the AC sensor know if you're sleeping to keep on working?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: AsherO on May 23, 2011, 01:15:14 AM
it depends on what you mean by a "halachic mistake". if the mistake is made out of complete ignorance than "possibly".

Well, in my religion we're makil regarding safek (of the Rabbi...) knas (at least we're not quick to point out someone might deserve a knas if we're not even sure about it).
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: U-no-me! on May 23, 2011, 01:19:07 AM
Well, in my religion we're makil regarding safek (of the Rabbi...) knas (at least we're not quick to point out someone might deserve a knas if we're not even sure about it).
well that's funny 'cause in my religion were also makil regarding knas. the term is actually "safek d'rabanan lkula" (although there is a shitah which disagrees in this instance).

Also what are you getting so jumpy about, i never said that they'll forsure get a knas all i was pointing out is that according to halacha there is a possibilty. i guess you might call it the uncfromtable truth. not sure what you have a problem with.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on May 23, 2011, 01:19:46 AM
Lubavitch is the closest religion to Judaism.
Wow, never heard that one before ::)
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on May 23, 2011, 01:21:22 AM
So, back to the topic, how does the AC sensor know if you're sleeping to keep on working?
I've never been in a room with an AC motion sensor AFAIK.  I don't even see how that would work.
Sure, some rooms require a room key in the slot for the AC to work, but that's about it.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Chaikel on May 23, 2011, 02:17:08 AM
I've never been in a room with an AC motion sensor AFAIK.  I don't even see how that would work.
Sure, some rooms require a room key in the slot for the AC to work, but that's about it.
The HI in Ashkelon had one. I woke up in middle of the night sweating, and had to wave my hand until it turned on. Pretty inconvenient.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Deal Guy on May 23, 2011, 02:18:44 AM
The HI in Ashkelon had one. I woke up in middle of the night sweating, and had to wave my hand until it turned on. Pretty inconvenient.
Next time snore louder and breathe deeper, and you won't have to wave your hand?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Deal Guy on May 23, 2011, 02:22:13 AM
in my personal experience, ive yet to stay in a hotel where candles would stay lit on the porch for more than 10 seconds due to wind
So take along those glass boxes for the menora that the people in Israel use on Chanuka, when lighting outdoors :D
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: txtmax4 on May 23, 2011, 02:25:22 AM
Next time snore louder and breathe deeper, and you won't have to wave your hand?
LOL
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on May 23, 2011, 10:34:36 AM
The HI in Ashkelon had one. I woke up in middle of the night sweating, and had to wave my hand until it turned on. Pretty inconvenient.
Interesting...I still don't think they're very common.
Title: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on June 02, 2013, 08:19:40 PM
I have been doing quite a bit of research on planning a family shabbos at hotel, and I noticed that there seems to be quite a bit of info on DDF, but it's scattered around in dozens of threads.
Being that questions pertaining  to this topic seem to pop up quite often, I figured we could gather all info deemed appropriate (electronic locks, shuls nearby, check-out on shabbos, kosher food, etc.) into one thread..
A couple of suggestions:
1-Please post personal experiences with set-up and arrangement of such a shabbos
2- rather than turn this into the halchic thread, lets stay on track and stick to practical suggestions  and/or psak heard from or published,and let everyone follow what they wish
3- post any links to other sites you deem helpful
4- Sefer torah info (gemachs etc.)
I'll start.
Recently, I planned a shabbos with 2 siblings (2 married couples and 1 single) at the Eatontown Sheraton. I found the hotel to be extremely shabbos friendly, complete with manual exterior doors and manual room locks. We rented 3 rooms for shabbos itself and ate in my deluxe  room (360 sq ft) we slid the 2 beds over to the wall and there was plenty of space for a 6 foot folding table. (we asked permission before bringing it in) We  set up hot plates in our room and each room had a refrigerator.
We davened at the  Whalepond shul (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Featontownshul.com%2F&ei=r9erUcjfBM-j4APl94HABw&usg=AFQjCNFzJdjpyfc_yPPJszMnWr1zO8GNFA&sig2=gaf4AON-74BUq3sJzfokow&bvm=bv.47244034,d.dmg), and found davening and the crowd there to be very pleasant. The shul is about a 20 min. easy walk from the hotel, and there is a park half way between the hotel and the shul.
We only kept one room until the end of shabbos, which i wouldn't do again.
I am in middle of planning larger family shabbos  at a hotel( payed with points) complete with a minyan and meeting room and will keep posting as I gather more info. As i have posted elsewhere on the forums, the NJ sheratons (edison, eatontown, meadowlands, and AC) wouldnt let me bring outside food and insisted that I use a kosher caterer through their caterer for all food in public areas (ie:meeting rooms) of the hotel which will run $1500 (union wait staff required) before food. Marriott (Courtyard, Fairfield, and Residence Inn) have been much more reasonable and allow outside food as long as you sign a liability waiver . Rates on meeting rooms at Marriott seem to run about $500 for Fri. afternoon through Motza'ai Shabbos ($300 for shabbos and $150 for Fri. +tax.). This is still a work in progress and will keep posting as it progresses
Links I have found helpful (some have been posted in other threads)
www.hotelsnearshuls.com
www.shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com
www.godaven.com
www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-TheTravelersHalachicGuidetoHotels.htm
www.yutorah.org/togo/sukkot/articles/sukkot_to-go_-_5770_rabbi_flug.pdf
www.crcweb.org/ask_rav/shabbosinhotel.php

Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Twin on June 02, 2013, 08:26:27 PM
Wow great work!
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on June 02, 2013, 09:28:10 PM
some ddf links
shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7481.30)
Hotel for Shabbos near NYC (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2992.msg30901#msg30901)
Checking out of Hotel on Shabbos  (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21723.msg333533#msg333533)
kosher hotels near NY for shabbos (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=16854.msg236846#msg236846)
Radisson Hotel Piscataway-Somerset (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=27322.msg460351#msg460351)
Spg hotel in Tri-state area with Shabbos minyan nearby (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23778.msg377401#msg377401)
Shabbaton DO? (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=6649.msg452362#msg452362)
Looking for Shabbos hotel getaway near Deal, NJ? (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=5302.0)
ny area get away (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=27798.msg511066#msg511066)
How to avoid Chilul shabbos in hotel (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11160.msg138553#msg138553)
Late Checkout for Shabbos (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=9142.msg109668#msg109668)
Family weekend party (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24938.msg404716#msg404716)
Shabbos Getaway near NYC- Ideas? (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=26663.msg445714#msg445714)
 Starwood hotel recommendations for kids/family within driving distance from NYC (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24157.msg389207#msg389207)
Milechazzer TR-Shabbos stay downtown Philly (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=944.msg395793#msg395793)
Sheraton Parsippany Hotel (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8893.msg106356#msg106356)
NY/NJ area weekend (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2079.msg18001#msg18001)

Keep in mind some of the info in these threads is outdated, so double check and keep us posted
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Dan on June 02, 2013, 09:30:58 PM
Bonus points if you find my AC Balcony override instructions :)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Ergel on June 02, 2013, 09:31:30 PM
Bonus points if you find my AC Balcony override instructions :)
muaui or kuaui?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Dan on June 02, 2013, 09:35:05 PM
Where did I post it? Could have been either.
But they have that same thermostat in the vast majority of hotels.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: AJK on June 02, 2013, 10:42:35 PM
Bonus points if you find my AC Balcony override instructions :)

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1643.msg164062#msg164062
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: ganizzy on June 02, 2013, 11:16:12 PM
At a wedding a few years ago in michigan in the winter, the best western gave us the meeting room for free.
We were taking 15 -20 rooms the first night and about 10 for another 3 nights.
This was on top of matching a diff hotels room price.
If ur going with the whole family it pays to go to a place out of the usual circuit
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 03, 2013, 01:35:38 AM
Wow great work!
+1
Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Elchay on June 27, 2013, 09:01:39 PM
Currently in Westin Bayshore in vancouver.

Got a room on low floor but it seems that the lights in the stairwell go on brighter when you use stairs. Anyone know how to deal with this issue?

(the lights are on even before the sensor but they get brighter if you trigger them- i think that may make a halachic difference but not sure)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2013, 09:06:45 PM
Currently in Westin Bayshore in vancouver.

Got a room on low floor but it seems that the lights in the stairwell go on brighter when you use stairs. Anyone know how to deal with this issue?

(the lights are on even before the sensor but they get brighter if you trigger them- i think that may make a halachic difference but not sure)
Find another hotel? Any ground floor rooms or alternate staircases?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: AJK on June 27, 2013, 09:09:00 PM
Currently in Westin Bayshore in vancouver.

Got a room on low floor but it seems that the lights in the stairwell go on brighter when you use stairs. Anyone know how to deal with this issue?

(the lights are on even before the sensor but they get brighter if you trigger them- i think that may make a halachic difference but not sure)

Did not have that issue when I was there. Perhaps there is another stair case?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 27, 2013, 10:46:38 PM
Currently in Westin Bayshore in vancouver.

Got a room on low floor but it seems that the lights in the stairwell go on brighter when you use stairs. Anyone know how to deal with this issue?

(the lights are on even before the sensor but they get brighter if you trigger them- i think that may make a halachic difference but not sure)
A dimmer can be mutar lechtichala on shabbos, depends on the type of bulb (intensifying an electric current is not a problem, only if it intensifies a flame or closes additional circuits).

Either way if you don't need the light to get down the stairs it is פסיק רישא דלא ניחא ליה, which according to R Shlomo Zalman that electricity is derbanen is not a problem. The only problem is according to the chazon ish that electricity is deoriasa. AFAIK most people are not machmir.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on June 27, 2013, 10:57:25 PM
A dimmer can be mutar lechtichala on shabbos, depends on the type of bulb (intensifying an electric current is not a problem, only if it intensifies a flame or closes additional circuits).

Either way if you don't need the light to get down the stairs it is פסיק רישא דלא ניחא ליה, which according to R Shlomo Zalman that electricity is derbanen is not a problem. The only problem is according to the chazon ish that electricity is deoriasa. AFAIK most people are not machmir.
if it enhances (ie: makes it easier to to go down) it may be nicha lei
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on June 27, 2013, 11:21:02 PM
I am in middle of planning larger family shabbos  at a hotel( payed with points) complete with a minyan and meeting room and will keep posting as I gather more info. Marriott (Courtyard, Fairfield, and Residence Inn) have been much more reasonable and allow outside food as long as you sign a liability waiver . Rates on meeting rooms at Marriott seem to run about $500 for Fri. afternoon through Motza'ai Shabbos ($300 for shabbos and $150 for Fri. +tax.). This is still a work in progress and will keep posting as it progresses
Booked. :D more details to follow. Anyone have any info on how or where to get a sefer torah for shabbos?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: sillypainter on June 27, 2013, 11:44:26 PM
A dimmer can be mutar lechtichala on shabbos, depends on the type of bulb (intensifying an electric current is not a problem, only if it intensifies a flame or closes additional circuits).

Either way if you don't need the light to get down the stairs it is פסיק רישא דלא ניחא ליה, which according to R Shlomo Zalman that electricity is derbanen is not a problem. The only problem is according to the chazon ish that electricity is deoriasa. AFAIK most people are not machmir.

Sorry to be mean, but halachos cannot be asked from so called I-Rabbis on public anonymous forums. Call the Monsey halacha line @ 845.Halacha. Or ask your Rov.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on June 28, 2013, 12:43:21 AM
Sorry to be mean, but halachos cannot be asked from so called I-Rabbis on public anonymous forums. Call the Monsey halacha line @ 845.Halacha. Or ask your Rov.
or start with the wiki
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Elchay on June 28, 2013, 01:21:09 AM
Did not have that issue when I was there. Perhaps there is another stair case?




There is alternate staircase but leads only to basement. There are two parts to the hotel im in the tower maybe the other building doesnt have an issue. Will disscuss with hotel tom morn.

Disscussed with LOR certainly better to try and work something out.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 28, 2013, 02:39:07 AM
Sorry to be mean, but halachos cannot be asked from so called I-Rabbis on public anonymous forums. Call the Monsey halacha line @ 845.Halacha. Or ask your Rov.
Or check in the Shulchan Aruch and Poskim.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on June 28, 2013, 01:05:25 PM
Or check in the Shulchan Aruch and Poskim.
though I do agree with you 100% - people should be more knowledgeable in halacha- many of these new shailos are only discussed by contemporary poskim which always need to be double checked.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moish on June 29, 2013, 05:50:01 PM
A dimmer can be mutar lechtichala on shabbos, depends on the type of bulb (intensifying an electric current is not a problem, only if it intensifies a flame or closes additional circuits).
how can you tell him that without knowing the metzius? who said its even a dimmer? its possible (probably even more likely) that some bulbs are on the whole time and other bulbs turn on when motion is detected
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 29, 2013, 10:47:40 PM
how can you tell him that without knowing the metzius? who said its even a dimmer? its possible (probably even more likely) that some bulbs are on the whole time and other bulbs turn on when motion is detected
Huh? I said it can be.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Elchay on June 30, 2013, 02:02:21 AM
Just to clarify.

I was not planning on getting a psak haklacha from the forum. Just asking for some help in dealing with this issue which I assume comes up. I also find it helpful to know the different nuances of the metzius and what the possible halachic ramifications of that metzius may be before asking a shayla. But that's just me. I assumed that was at least part of the point of this thread.


At any rate spoke to a manager whowas very helpful and understanding and had engineering disable sensors.   
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 30, 2013, 02:47:03 AM
At any rate spoke to a manager whowas very helpful and understanding and had engineering disable sensors.

I have never encountered a problem with hotel staff accommodating requests for shabbos.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Dan on June 30, 2013, 07:43:39 AM
I've been to several hotels who have told me their stairwell sensors are hard-wired and there's no override.
YMMV.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moish on June 30, 2013, 07:48:23 AM
Huh? I said it can be.
my apologies

but...

(intensifying an electric current is not a problem, only if it intensifies a flame or closes additional circuits).

thats not necessarily true, if the first setting doesnt make the metal inside a gacheles, and you are causing it to get there, youre oiver on bishul (unless i dont have a proper grasp of the metzius)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Elchay on June 30, 2013, 11:40:11 AM
I've been to several hotels who have told me their stairwell sensors are hard-wired and there's no override.
YMMV.

interesting

 I spoke to the manager thursday night and he said he would try and have the disable it. the next morning there was a new manager on duty who couldnt confirm whether or not it had been taken care of and he suggested that hotel staff should come up to my room and walk me down at pre-appointed times. We did that but of all the times going up and down not once did the light get triggered. So i assumed that the thursday night manager had them disable it butmaybe not.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: bsimcha on July 06, 2013, 11:33:52 PM
Was shabbas @ The heldrich in new Brunswick N.J. nice hotel near a close shul
cong. poleh tzedek. we had a 1 bedroom suite . nice big suite whit big table and 8 chairs
and couches and separate kitchentte we ate couple of couples.  And the price was
50% of as they are running a sale on selected dates in july on their site the heldrich.com
, rooms were 74.5 a night 195 for a one bedroom suite.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Dave321 on July 07, 2013, 01:28:10 AM
Wow! Great wiki!

Thanks
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: ganizzy on July 07, 2013, 01:28:12 AM
Spent shabbos at the sheraton parsippany with a very large group. They gave us keys to the rooms instead of the cards.
We were 75% of the rooms so they actually turned off the music in the hallways, and replaced some of the automatic toilets and sinks in some of the general bathrooms.
Seems like they often have large jewish groups.
They also have a kosher kitchen.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Zalmy2 on July 18, 2013, 09:30:21 PM
Can I still find something for this weekend?

Need minyan and to be able to eat in room
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: nutcase on July 18, 2013, 09:41:47 PM
Was shabbas @ The heldrich in new Brunswick N.J. nice hotel near a close shul
cong. poleh tzedek. we had a 1 bedroom suite . nice big suite whit big table and 8 chairs
and couches and separate kitchentte we ate couple of couples.  And the price was
50% of as they are running a sale on selected dates in july on their site the heldrich.com
, rooms were 74.5 a night 195 for a one bedroom suite.
poleh tzedek is a dying shul not always a minyan walk another 10 minutes to congregation ohav emeth 415 raritan ave highland park nj
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on July 18, 2013, 11:52:37 PM
Can I still find something for this weekend?

Need minyan and to be able to eat in room
Try the Embassy suites in Parsippany, NJ (there should be a.minyan there) or nearby hotels (Sheraton, Fairfield Inn, Sonesta Suites) check the link in the Wiki (shabbosgetaways) for mire info.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on July 23, 2013, 05:16:30 PM
We spent this past Shabbos at the  Courtyard Marriott-Milford, MA. (http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/bosml-courtyard-boston-milford/) We picked this hotel because the proximity (0.9 MI) to the local Chabad (http://www.gotchabad.com/)Nice modern hotel with a small kitchenette in every room. Our room had nice patio which opened onto the general hotel courtyard.
(will post pics as soon as i compress them.)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on August 01, 2013, 11:24:55 AM
Try the Embassy suites in Parsippany, NJ (there should be a.minyan there) or nearby hotels (Sheraton, Fairfield Inn, Sonesta Suites) check the link in the Wiki (shabbosgetaways) for mire info.
I'm planing on staying for shabbos In Parsippany NJ.
Would like to do something on Sunday any child friendly activities or sightseeing in the area?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: mochada on August 01, 2013, 12:00:30 PM
I'm planing on staying for shabbos In Parsippany NJ.
Would like to do something on Sunday any child friendly activities or sightseeing in the area?

Depending how old your children are and how far you are willing to travel, the Liberty Science Center is about 20-30 minutes away.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Lou Bob on August 01, 2013, 12:14:04 PM
here's a nice little tip-don't leave a hot plate on glass over Shabbos. it leaves a nice design in the glass, but the hotel may not be very happy!
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on August 01, 2013, 12:14:42 PM
anyone stayed for shabbos in Sheraton Parsippany? is it shabbos friendly?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: yossi621 on August 01, 2013, 12:17:39 PM
was just there this past shabbos, they have stairwell access, physical key for the dooe available, outdoor pool is enclosed and attached to building which was nice carrying wise...
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Dave321 on August 01, 2013, 12:18:49 PM
was just there this past shabbos, they have stairwell access, physical key for the dooe available, outdoor pool is enclosed and attached to building which was nice carrying wise...

how many ppl were there? did you have a minyan?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on August 01, 2013, 12:22:29 PM
how many ppl were there? did you have a minyan?
there is minyan in embassy suites a 25 min. walk
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on August 01, 2013, 05:12:50 PM
Depending how old your children are and how far you are willing to travel, the Liberty Science Center is about 20-30 minutes away.
willing to travel up to a hour, kids are 2 and 4
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moish on August 05, 2013, 06:21:45 PM
here's a nice little tip-don't leave a hot plate on glass over Shabbos. it leaves a nice design in the glass, but the hotel may not be very happy!
ive had a problem on wood, never on glass though
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Lou Bob on August 05, 2013, 06:23:45 PM
ive had a problem on wood, never on glass though
a fire?
The glass shattered from the heat....
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moish on August 05, 2013, 09:01:41 PM
a fire?
The glass shattered from the heat....
not a fire, but discolored the wood
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: A3 on August 06, 2013, 12:23:32 PM
I have reservations for this shabbas at the hyatt Long Island. How was the hyatt house Parsippany? Should I go there instead?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Dave321 on August 06, 2013, 07:31:15 PM
I have reservations for this shabbas at the hyatt Long Island. How was the hyatt house Parsippany? Should I go there instead?

Hyatt Morristown is really nice and popular for shabbos.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: A3 on August 06, 2013, 09:50:11 PM
Hyatt Morristown is really nice and popular for shabbos.

I don't want soo popular..
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: itsyehuda on August 15, 2013, 08:39:47 AM
Makeshift device for keeping AC on
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Dan on August 15, 2013, 01:28:16 PM
Makeshift device for keeping AC on
Why not just ask them to override it for you?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: dd321 on August 23, 2013, 07:55:44 AM
Before any1 decides to spend shab in a hotel, please read this review I found on trip advisor, for the Embassy Suites in Parsippany NJ.

My sons wedding was nearby and 50+ rooms were occupied by our wedding guests. All had complaints. It was very upsetting that after choosing an Embassy Suits because of the quality of service we have come to expect we were so very disappointed. The hotel itself was quite beautiful and would have been the perfect setting however, we learned very quickly that was as far as it went. Apparently a large group occupies this hotel each weekend for religious purposes. The problem is, they were rude, loud, up & wondering the atrium all night long. Children unsupervised running and playing in the atrium at 3 & 4 in the morning. Knocking & peering in on suite windows. Could not use the pool or gym as it was over run by unsupervised young children. They were taking food from the morning buffet and placing it in bags I assume take home or back to there rooms. But the biggest problem was that management was clearly not willing or able to control this situation. I worked for Marriott for several years and was appalled by how the immature staff and management handled several guest issues involving our party. I will forward a detailed letter to the corporate offices about this experience.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: sruly101 on August 23, 2013, 08:31:56 AM
Is there any hotel that has a Sukkah? Wanna go on chol hamoed an overnight trip!!
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on August 23, 2013, 08:40:18 AM
Before any1 decides to spend shab in a hotel, please read this review I found on trip advisor, for the Embassy Suites in Parsippany NJ.

My sons wedding was nearby and 50+ rooms were occupied by our wedding guests. All had complaints. It was very upsetting that after choosing an Embassy Suits because of the quality of service we have come to expect we were so very disappointed. The hotel itself was quite beautiful and would have been the perfect setting however, we learned very quickly that was as far as it went. Apparently a large group occupies this hotel each weekend for religious purposes. The problem is, they were rude, loud, up & wondering the atrium all night long. Children unsupervised running and playing in the atrium at 3 & 4 in the morning. Knocking & peering in on suite windows. Could not use the pool or gym as it was over run by unsupervised young children. They were taking food from the morning buffet and placing it in bags I assume take home or back to there rooms. But the biggest problem was that management was clearly not willing or able to control this situation. I worked for Marriott for several years and was appalled by how the immature staff and management handled several guest issues involving our party. I will forward a detailed letter to the corporate offices about this experience.
there are plenty of these reviews on TA.Has zero to to do with spending Shabbos at a hotel, as it happens during the week also, and as well with non-Jews.(ever spent time at a hotel with a large group of Asian teenagers?  same issues-BTDT) It ahs to do with being a mentch and making a kiddush hashem wherever your travels take you. I have spent Shabbos at a hotel a few times and managed to behave myself even before reading these reviews on TA. If you think you'll have an issue don't go. It sad that you need reviews from TA to explain to you how to behave at a hotel.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on August 23, 2013, 08:43:40 AM
Is there any hotel that has a Sukkah? Wanna go on chol hamoed an overnight trip!!
Chabad Niagara  (http://www.jewishniagara.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/1928225/jewish/Sukkot-2012.htm) (I'd assume with the completion of the new chabad center it will be located there as opposed to the hotel)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: sruly101 on August 24, 2013, 03:01:45 PM
Chabad Niagara  (http://www.jewishniagara.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/1928225/jewish/Sukkot-2012.htm) (I'd assume with the completion of the new chabad center it will be located there as opposed to the hotel)
Thanks, i forgot to mention im in Brooklyn, want something 2-3 hours away max!
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on August 24, 2013, 11:26:03 PM
Before any1 decides to spend shab in a hotel, please read this review I found on trip advisor, for the Embassy Suites in Parsippany NJ.

My sons wedding was nearby and 50+ rooms were occupied by our wedding guests. All had complaints. It was very upsetting that after choosing an Embassy Suits because of the quality of service we have come to expect we were so very disappointed. The hotel itself was quite beautiful and would have been the perfect setting however, we learned very quickly that was as far as it went. Apparently a large group occupies this hotel each weekend for religious purposes. The problem is, they were rude, loud, up & wondering the atrium all night long. Children unsupervised running and playing in the atrium at 3 & 4 in the morning. Knocking & peering in on suite windows. Could not use the pool or gym as it was over run by unsupervised young children. They were taking food from the morning buffet and placing it in bags I assume take home or back to there rooms. But the biggest problem was that management was clearly not willing or able to control this situation. I worked for Marriott for several years and was appalled by how the immature staff and management handled several guest issues involving our party. I will forward a detailed letter to the corporate offices about this experience.
A few weeks ago I spent a shabbos in Embassy Suites Parsippany we were told that everyone should keep there kids in after 10, but in fact till after 12 there where big groups of kids from a wedding group (non Jews) that where running around in the hallways making loud noise. It doesn't have to do with Jews it's just with group's people forget about others.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: itsyehuda on August 27, 2013, 12:22:17 PM
Why not just ask them to override it for you?

This particular hotel refused to give us sheets for the bed, or vacuum the rug. Not very accommodating. Guess which country?

It was also to keep the room cold during the weekday as well.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread -- Sensors and Overrides
Post by: smbalt on September 11, 2013, 12:49:47 PM
I just wanted to share my shabbos experience with sensors and overrides.  We were in a hotel in Portugal and realized that most of the hallway lights were triggered by motion sensors.  We thought we would be stuck in the (beautiful) hotel room all shabbos.  We spoke with the manager, explained the situation.  While they could not turn off the sensor, they were able to cover it so that it did not trigger.  They covered the sensors with masking tape over shabbos.  This can be helpful for times that you are told that they cannot help you due to hard wiring.  Do a walkthrough before making your requests so you know exactly where the sensors are and how many need covering.

(In our case, the main light was always on and it only slightly inconvenienced the 2 rooms past ours with not as bright lighting in the hallway due to covered sensors.)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on September 23, 2013, 11:46:56 AM
I am in middle of planning larger family shabbos  at a hotel( payed with points) complete with a minyan and meeting room and will keep posting as I gather more info. As i have posted elsewhere on the forums, the NJ sheratons (edison, eatontown, meadowlands, and AC) wouldnt let me bring outside food and insisted that I use a kosher caterer through their caterer for all food in public areas (ie:meeting rooms) of the hotel which will run $1500 (union wait staff required) before food. Marriott (Courtyard, Fairfield, and Residence Inn) have been much more reasonable and allow outside food as long as you sign a liability waiver . Rates on meeting rooms at Marriott seem to run about $500 for Fri. afternoon through Motza'ai Shabbos ($300 for shabbos and $150 for Fri. +tax.). This is still a work in progress and will keep posting as it progresses
Booked. :D more details to follow. Anyone have any info on how or where to get a sefer torah for shabbos?
would like to have a few extra than a minyan (shabbos parshas lech lecha). anyone interested can PM me.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Dave321 on October 13, 2013, 11:56:45 AM
I just want to share my experience with spending Shabbos at the Courtyard Marriott in Red Bank NJ.

http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/ewrrb-courtyard-lincroft-red-bank/

The hotel is located right off exit 109 on the GSP. (about a half hour from Lakewood and 50 min from Brooklyn).

We booked 12 rooms plus a conference room. They charged 140 a night plus 500 for the conference room. Davening and meals we held in the conference room. It was large enough to fit about 50 ppl. They had counters with plugs so we were able to set up crockpots and hotplates. They also had a large fridge, which was a big plus.

The rooms were nice and the beds were really comfy. One issue was that they would not put a cot in the rooms (only in a suite) due to fire hazard. So we had two suites which had a cot PLUS a pullout couch. For the locks, we taped the locks open. (This means that the door was open the whole shabbos. We locked our valuables in our cars.)

The lower floor rooms each had a door to a really nice courtyard in the middle of the hotel. It was totally enclosed so no eruv needed! Great plus for the kids! There was also a small but comfy lobby with a few couches that we used.

The hotel was very accommodating and let us do what we want, in terms of setting up our own food etc.
I would recommend this hotel for a small gathering (about up to 50 ppl).
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on October 13, 2013, 11:30:26 PM
I just want to share my experience with spending Shabbos at the Courtyard Marriott in Red Bank NJ.

http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/ewrrb-courtyard-lincroft-red-bank/

The hotel is located right off exit 109 on the GSP. (about a half hour from Lakewood and 50 min from Brooklyn).

We booked 12 rooms plus a conference room. They charged 140 a night plus 500 for the conference room. Davening and meals we held in the conference room. It was large enough to fit about 50 ppl. They had counters with plugs so we were able to set up crockpots and hotplates. They also had a large fridge, which was a big plus.

The rooms were nice and the beds were really comfy. One issue was that they would not put a cot in the rooms (only in a suite) due to fire hazard. So we had two suites which had a cot PLUS a pullout couch. For the locks, we taped the locks open. (This means that the door was open the whole shabbos. We locked our valuables in our cars.)

The lower ground floor rooms each had a door to a really nice courtyard in the middle of the hotel.  It was totally enclosed so no eruv needed! Great plus for the kids! There was also a small but comfy lobby with a few couches that we used.

The hotel was very accommodating and let us do what we want, in terms of setting up our own food etc.
I would recommend this hotel for a small gathering (about up to 50 ppl).
I am in middle of planning larger family shabbos  at a hotel( payed with points) complete with a minyan and meeting room and will keep posting as I gather more info. As i have posted elsewhere on the forums, the NJ sheratons (edison, eatontown, meadowlands, and AC) wouldnt let me bring outside food and insisted that I use a kosher caterer through their caterer for all food in public areas (ie:meeting rooms) of the hotel which will run $1500 (union wait staff required) before food. Marriott (Courtyard, Fairfield, and Residence Inn) have been much more reasonable and allow outside food as long as you sign a liability waiver . Rates on meeting rooms at Marriott seem to run about $500 for Fri. afternoon through Motza'ai Shabbos ($300 for shabbos and $150 for Fri. +tax.). This is still a work in progress and will keep posting as it progresses
are u gonna keep me guessing?
1. we didnt have 12 rooms, we had 10
2. the conference room wasnt $500 it was $450
3. the fridge was mine. I shlepped it from my house. (shlepped the mechitzas also)
4. we only had one suite.
5. the upper floor rooms each have balcony
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Dave321 on October 14, 2013, 12:01:21 AM
are u gonna keep me guessing?
1. we didnt have 12 rooms, we had 10
2. the conference room wasnt $500 it was $450
3. the fridge was mine. I shlepped it from my house. (shlepped the mechitzas also)
4. we only had one suite.
5. the upper floor rooms each have balcony

1. I didnt count each room- gave an estimate based on the people i though was there
2. I didnt pay so how could i know exact- i was basing it on what i heard
3. I didnt shlep it so I didnt know
4. I thought I saw two suites- sorry about that
5. I was just saying that the lower floors had a great plus, the courtyard.
 As for the mechitza, you can hardly call three shower curtains a shlep ::)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on October 14, 2013, 12:16:45 AM
1. I didnt count each room- gave an estimate based on the people i though was there
2. I didnt pay so how could i know exact- i was basing it on what i heard
3. I didnt shlep it so I didnt know
4. I thought I saw two suites- sorry about that
5. I was just saying that the lower floors had a great plus, the courtyard.
As for the mechitza, you can hardly call three shower curtains a shlep ::)
the coat racks though, were quite heavy
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Dave321 on October 14, 2013, 12:19:41 AM
the coat racks though, were quite heavy

I though those were the hotels! Apparently not, so thank you!
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: flyingace on October 14, 2013, 03:13:02 PM
Any ideas for a hotel for  a larger family gathering of about 100 pple including kids? We don't mind going with a caterer, but would like gathering spaces that would not be crowded with other guests, etc. A small hotel where we would be almost all the rooms would be ideal.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 14, 2013, 03:19:11 PM
Any ideas for a hotel for  a larger family gathering of about 100 pple including kids? We don't mind going with a caterer, but would like gathering spaces that would not be crowded with other guests, etc. A small hotel where we would be almost all the rooms would be ideal.
Desired continent would be helpful
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: flyingace on October 14, 2013, 03:41:21 PM
United States. Tri-state area. Sorry
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on October 15, 2013, 11:15:17 PM
I am in middle of planning larger family shabbos  at a hotel( payed with points) complete with a minyan and meeting room and will keep posting as I gather more info. As i have posted elsewhere on the forums, the NJ sheratons (edison, eatontown, meadowlands, and AC) wouldnt let me bring outside food and insisted that I use a kosher caterer through their caterer for all food in public areas (ie:meeting rooms) of the hotel which will run $1500 (union wait staff required) before food. Marriott (Courtyard, Fairfield, and Residence Inn) have been much more reasonable and allow outside food as long as you sign a liability waiver . Rates on meeting rooms at Marriott seem to run about $500 for Fri. afternoon through Motza'ai Shabbos ($300 for shabbos and $150 for Fri. +tax.). This is still a work in progress and will keep posting as it progresses
As has been posted above, our shabbos went off without a hitch! :)

        After quite a search, we settled with the Courtyard Lincroft Red Bank (http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/ewrrb-courtyard-lincroft-red-bank/). The staff from the Northeast sales staff (up in Boston) who to care of the event booking to the GM and local event manager who took care of the local details to the front desk staff whom arranged room placement and last but not least, the maintenance staff who took care of setup and cleanup, all the individuals we dealt with went out of their way to accommodate us.
We arrived at the hotel Friday afternoon around 1pm and immediately they took care of check in, though check in isn't until 3pm. most of our 10 rooms were placed on the ground level though a few were placed on the 2nd floor due to personal preferences and a complementary suite upgrade. (We davened shacharis sunday morning in the suite living room)

        The hotel itself is very conducive for a nice shabbos getaway due, in no small part, to the fantastic courtyard, and it isn't a very large hotel (just 3 floors and 140 rooms). The hotel is built around the courtyard which is therefore completely surrounded and needs no eruv to carry within it or across to your room. All the ground floor rooms have a small patio with 2 chairs and a small table which opens onto the larger hotel garden - or parking lot if you get a lot facing room  >:(, none of us did though. (though some of our rooms had larger personal patios - short stone wall around it- which jutted out into the courtyard with no balcony above or overhanging trees- for the DDF'r looking for a sukka friendly hotel room) All of the upper floor rooms all had balconies overlooking the garden. The hotel was renovated about 6 months ago with a fresh and modern decor and looks surprisingly like the pictures you find on the website.

        The conference room (1 of 2) is 650 sqf. with a coat closet and countertop. The room comfortably was setup for 30 ppl. and an additional 15 in the "shul" section (I would estimate that you could setup for 50-60 ppl comfortably with "U" shaped setup, if you use the whole room). I brought a fridge with me, as the hotel was unable to provide one (though they offered to arrange one with a rental company which I declined) We borrowed coat racks from a gemach and hung curtains from them as a mechitza. The hotel officially allowed us to setup hot plates and a crockpot on the (marble) countertop in the room.(though I made sure to get that in writing from the sales staff)

        Cost: The conference room was $300 for Shabbos and $150 for Friday- essentially ours from 3 pm on Friday to 11 pm for $450.
The rooms cost $139 reg. rate or $119 Marriott rewards offer rate (available for rewards members- i think) or 15000 points per night. We reserved each room for 2 nights- all points. (70k + free night for each person- everyone walked away with enough for next year's  :D)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: flyingace on October 16, 2013, 08:33:53 AM
Sounds like a great place, I need a meeting place to seat around 100 people. All the courtyards, suites, etc are smaller. Any other ideas?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on October 16, 2013, 02:42:31 PM
Sounds like a great place, I need a meeting place to seat around 100 people. All the courtyards, suites, etc are smaller. Any other ideas?
It seems that many NJ Sheratons could accommodate you. I received a quote for a conference room to seat 30 for $1500, I assume it would be more for a crowd your size. If you settle for the Sheraton in Edison, NJ , the SPG weekend rate is only 3000 points per room and 8k (6k weekend?) for a suite- though they told me that all the suites are on the 11th floor club level  :o good luck with the stairs.
I think they do have shabbos locks on the lower level rooms.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: dudi on December 18, 2013, 01:34:43 AM
Im planning on surprising my wife with a Shabbos in a hotel in one of the next few Shabboss. I'm in Lakewood and I have no clue where to start no used to this whole situation just moved here from Israel. Is there any place that is just kosher and all good? Any help would be really appreciated
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: avrumy22 on December 26, 2013, 02:14:31 PM
I'm looking for an SPG hotel in the tri state area to make a shabbos with about 30-40 ppl. Some of us have points so we would be using them. The rest would pay. The main thing we need is a conference room. Any place we can get for cheap?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: shnoz on December 26, 2013, 10:31:57 PM
Spent shabbos at La Quinta inn Somerset, NJ. all the rooms were renovated last yr & are very nice, especially at the price of $65 a room per night. the rooms had regular keys in addition 2 electric, but maintenence had to around b4 shabbos disabling the electric locks. sign at the front desk says some rooms have sensors 4 heat but we had 12 rooms & none were a problem. they charged us $350 per day 4 a conference room (700 4 shabbos) plus $100 cleaning fee, and it had a refrigarator in it which was incredibly convenient & they let us use the freezer & stovetop in the hotel kitchen. we rented the hotel pool mt"s for 2 hrs  was $150. got sefer torah from misaskim(brklyn). Overall would strongly recommend the hotel 4 an affordable shabbaton.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Flatbush on January 23, 2014, 10:31:21 AM
Im planning on surprising my wife with a Shabbos in a hotel in one of the next few Shabboss. I'm in Lakewood and I have no clue where to start no used to this whole situation just moved here from Israel. Is there any place that is just kosher and all good? Any help would be really appreciated
Did you find anything? I m in the same position?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: dudi on January 25, 2014, 06:47:37 PM
Did you find anything? I m in the same position?
No nothing I gave up in the mean time
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: avadah on February 24, 2014, 11:21:26 AM
We booked 12 rooms plus a conference room. They charged 140 a night plus 500 for the conference room. Davening and meals we held in the conference room. It was large enough to fit about 50 ppl. They had counters with plugs so we were able to set up crockpots and hotplates. They also had a large fridge, which was a big plus.

How did you get around basar she'isaleh min ha'ayin?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on February 25, 2014, 02:07:43 PM
How did you get around basar she'isaleh min ha'ayin?
padlocks
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: rdg770 on March 03, 2014, 11:05:07 AM
http://www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-TheTravelersHalachicGuidetoHotels.htm

It says in the above link that you can leave a card-key by the front desk and ask them to open the door for them because it's shvus d'shvus being that it's for oneg shabbos.
Should you first check if there is a room with a regular let or can you do this l'chatlicha.
Also, did anyone have problems having the front desk doing this.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 03, 2014, 11:08:25 AM
http://www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-TheTravelersHalachicGuidetoHotels.htm

It says in the above link that you can leave a card-key by the front desk and ask them to open the door for them because it's shvus d'shvus being that it's for oneg shabbos.
Should you first check if there is a room with a regular let or can you do this l'chatlicha.
Also, did anyone have problems having the front desk doing this.

I believe that's relying on the shitos that electricity is derbanen.

Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 03, 2014, 12:00:27 PM

I believe that's relying on the shitos that electricity is derbanen.

Isn't that the majority opinion?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: @Yehuda on April 24, 2014, 09:22:01 PM
How do you find out if your hotel has non-electric doors to enter the hotel and regular keys to get into your room?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: ushdadude on April 24, 2014, 09:26:19 PM
How do you find out if your hotel has non-electric doors to enter the hotel and regular keys to get into your room?

If there is a restaurant attached to the lobby it will almost always have a regular door from the outside into the restaurant and from there to the lobby.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: @Yehuda on April 24, 2014, 09:46:09 PM
If there is a restaurant attached to the lobby it will almost always have a regular door from the outside into the restaurant and from there to the lobby.
Good to know. Otherwise, assume it's electric? What about rooms? I guess I could always just call to find out.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Ergel on April 24, 2014, 11:21:51 PM
Any modern hotel will have electric keys.
Just tape the door open and leave your stuff in the safe
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: @Yehuda on April 25, 2014, 10:58:07 AM
Any modern hotel will have electric keys.
Just tape the door open and leave your stuff in the safe
Interesting. Does everyone really do that??
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: sky121 on April 25, 2014, 11:04:59 AM
I do. For a long stay I sometimes leave my passport in hotel safety deposit box depending on where I am.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: @Yehuda on April 25, 2014, 11:06:35 AM
I have quite a few times. For a long stay in I sometimes leave my passport in hotel safety deposit box depending on where I am.
Wow, guess I have to go buy some tape... So you just put away passport, laptop, wallet, phones and everything else just stays out in the room?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: ushdadude on April 25, 2014, 11:08:23 AM
Wow, guess I have to go buy some tape... So you just put away passport, laptop, wallet, phones and everything else just stays out in the room?

easiest is to tape a card over the latch. straight up tape won't hold as well.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: @Yehuda on April 25, 2014, 11:24:59 AM
easiest is to tape a card over the latch. straight up tape won't hold as well.
Card won't stick out into the hallway?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: SOS on April 25, 2014, 11:26:06 AM
Any modern hotel will have electric keys.
Just tape the door open and leave your stuff in the safe

You should always lock your valuables in the safe, room service comes into the room
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: ushdadude on April 25, 2014, 11:26:12 AM
Card won't stick out into the hallway?

it shouldn't. you can always trim an old CC :)
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: mod on April 25, 2014, 11:36:20 AM
it shouldn't. you can always trim an old CC :)
Or take a slim magnet and put over the area where the lock would engage.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2014, 11:49:06 AM
Interesting. Does everyone really do that??
Yes.

I bring cardboard and tape and cut to cover the hole where the lock would go.  Can also use your checked luggage tags in a pinch.
Don't forger the DND sign.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: @Yehuda on April 25, 2014, 12:10:02 PM
Lol I'm not sure why I find this so funny, but I guess that does make sense. Thanks for all the different suggestions.
Thanks for the DND tip, Dan.

Now, what to do about the lobby doors (if there isn't a restaurant attached)?
And any tips on setting alarms for Shabbos morning if your phone is in the safe? Always hard to know if a regular alarm clock will shut off at some point or ring all day. Would you order a wake up call and just not pick up? (Does that belong in Is It Ethical? ;))
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: ushdadude on April 25, 2014, 01:10:21 PM
Lol I'm not sure why I find this so funny, but I guess that does make sense. Thanks for all the different suggestions.
Thanks for the DND tip, Dan.

Now, what to do about the lobby doors (if there isn't a restaurant attached)?
And any tips on setting alarms for Shabbos morning if your phone is in the safe? Always hard to know if a regular alarm clock will shut off at some point or ring all day. Would you order a wake up call and just not pick up? (Does that belong in Is It Ethical? ;) )

I've heard of people ordering a glass of OJ and having it delivered at the time they want to wake up. For the same money you can buy a "kosher" alarm clock at any judaica store.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: @Yehuda on April 25, 2014, 03:22:04 PM
I've heard of people ordering a glass of OJ and having it delivered at the time they want to wake up. For the same money you can buy a "kosher" alarm clock at any judaica store.
+1 forgot about those.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: rdg770 on April 25, 2014, 05:59:56 PM
Btw I was at Westin chicago river north and had no shabbos problems. They pit me on third floor which is the lowest floor with rooms. No sensors on anything. I put tape on the front door. The only problem was that the mini bar had a light sensor in it but they brought a fridge to my room instead. I would recommend the Westin chain just for their great service even for a weekday and it's only 12k Spg.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2014, 06:03:57 PM
Only hotel I can recall encountered without any manual door option was the Danieli Venice.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: @Yehuda on April 25, 2014, 06:47:09 PM
Only hotel I can recall encountered without any manual door option was the Danieli Venice.
Do you always call first to verify, or just assume?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moko on April 26, 2014, 11:21:35 PM
Just tape the door open and leave your stuff in the safe
the easiest way to tape down the lock is to tape the actual keycard (or some other plastic card) over the door jamb.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on April 27, 2014, 10:28:34 PM
I'm going to be doing another family Shabbos soon. This time it's probably going to be at the Courtyard in Mahwah, NJ, due to the fact that the one in Red Bank got bumped a cat. and the Mahwah one is equal in quality, but half the points. Coincidentally, the sales team is the same one as the Red Bank one, which cut the explaining and extra request to nothing as they are just replicating the old agreement for this hotel.  (After the past experiences in a Courtyard everyone practically insisted on doing in a similar style hotel, as no eruv to carry is necessary)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on April 27, 2014, 10:32:31 PM
I'm going to be doing another family Shabbos soon. This time it's probably going to be at the Courtyard in Mahwah, NJ, due to the fact that the one in Red Bank got bumped a cat. and the Mahwah one is equal in quality, but half the points. Coincidentally, the sales team is the same one as the Red Bank one, which cut the explaining and extra request to nothing as they are just replicating the old agreement for this hotel.  (After the past experiences in a Courtyard everyone practically insisted on doing in a similar style hotel, as no eruv to carry is necessary)
do you take your own minyan or is there shul nearby ?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Cw3323 on April 27, 2014, 10:36:02 PM
I tried them before and they don't let outside food. How did you get around it ? 
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on April 27, 2014, 10:36:22 PM
do you take your own minyan or is there shul nearby ?
our own minyan
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on April 27, 2014, 10:39:56 PM
I tried them before and they don't let outside food. How did you get around it ?
Which sales team did you deal with? I'm am dealing with Marriott Northeast Sales up in Boston, and they have you sign a Waiver and Indemnification agreement. Though the food is coming from an official caterer (with liability insurance-or so he claims) as they requested.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Cw3323 on April 27, 2014, 10:46:13 PM
I dealt with the north jersey sales office. And they said even with insurance they wouldn't let. So I ended up in different courtyards
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on April 27, 2014, 10:51:11 PM
I dealt with the north jersey sales office. And they said even with insurance they wouldn't let. So I ended up in different courtyards
you sure it was Mahwah and not Montvale? which one did u end up with?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Cw3323 on April 27, 2014, 11:05:02 PM
It was for sure mahwah. I did the parisippany and W. Orange.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on April 27, 2014, 11:22:32 PM
It was for sure mahwah. I did the parisippany and W. Orange.
how was parsippany, how much was the meeting room?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Cw3323 on April 27, 2014, 11:46:21 PM

how was parsippany, how much was the meeting room?
pm send
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 30, 2014, 01:04:13 PM
How do you turn the Toto A$$ toaster off?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: MoGro17 on April 30, 2014, 01:12:24 PM
How do you turn the Toto A$$ toaster off?
Squat over it without actually touching it!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on April 30, 2014, 01:14:10 PM
How do you turn the Toto A$$ toaster off?
Unplug it.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 30, 2014, 01:18:51 PM
Unplug it.
That seems to works but there's no manual flush here
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on April 30, 2014, 01:22:47 PM
That seems to works but there's no manual flush here
Now that's a new one.
Where are you?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: @Yehuda on April 30, 2014, 01:52:35 PM
When checkout is on Shabbos, how do you approach it, especially in the summer?
Tell them beforehand it's the Sabbath and ask to check out late at night?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Dan on April 30, 2014, 01:55:53 PM
When checkout is on Shabbos, how do you approach it, especially in the summer?
Tell them beforehand it's the Sabbath and ask to check out late at night?
Email beforehand. Either it works or you gotta pony up.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: @Yehuda on April 30, 2014, 02:02:09 PM
Email beforehand. Either it works or you gotta pony up.
Thanks
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Emkay on April 30, 2014, 02:11:23 PM
When checkout is on Shabbos, how do you approach it, especially in the summer?
Tell them beforehand it's the Sabbath and ask to check out late at night?
it can be rough but you can pack everything before shabbos and tell them to check you out When its time, but thats only If you dont plan on personally being there after checkout.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: @Yehuda on April 30, 2014, 02:15:09 PM
it can be rough but you can pack everything before shabbos and tell them to check you out When its time, but thats only If you dont plan on personally being there after checkout.
And carry the bags around with you outside till the end of Shabbos? Or ask them to hold them maybe? lol the scenario just seems funny.
I only have one Motzai Shabbos checkout on the itinerary - Elliot Hotel in GIB. I heard that they're pretty lenient as they have many Shabbos guests. I'll try to contact them. (Besides for the BRG issue we discussed.) Another potential option is to have them check us out and then bring our stuff to the place we'll be eating our meals and ask our hosts if we can leave them there till the end of Shabbos.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Emkay on April 30, 2014, 06:41:35 PM
Thanks a lot for the forum, I hope this forum hits off pretty big. I couldn't stand those comments anymore. Thanks for creating this.

Btw, can I become a mod for this forum?  ;) ;D
any decent hotel will Store ur luggage
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: moko on April 30, 2014, 06:51:35 PM
Thanks a lot for the forum, I hope this forum hits off pretty big. I couldn't stand those comments anymore. Thanks for creating this.

Btw, can I become a mod for this forum?  ;) ;D
any decent hotel will Store ur luggage
that's a long time to be storing luggage for. me thinks after 8 years they start charging  :P


Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: sharabob on April 30, 2014, 06:55:24 PM
 I know people don't really like paying for memberships on this forum but one of the best investments I made once was the Ambassador club at Intercontinental. It gives you a guaranteed late checkout of 4pm. Still not Motzei Shabbos even in the winter but it can greatly minimize your waiting around in the lobby time.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: @Yehuda on April 30, 2014, 06:59:01 PM
any decent hotel will Store ur luggage
Confused. lol But yes, I remember you mentioning this in a diff thread. Unsure how it would work out with Shabbos issues like moving suitcases to another place for use after Shabbos, etc. But I'll contact them to find out what their policy is.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: @Yehuda on April 30, 2014, 07:00:13 PM
I know people don't really like paying for memberships on this forum but one of the best investments I made once was the Ambassador club at Intercontinental. It gives you a guaranteed late checkout of 4pm. Still not Motzei Shabbos even in the winter but it can greatly minimize your waiting around in the lobby time.
Hotel is not affiliated with any brands. If the result will be that I need to wait around with the luggage, I'll try hard to leave my stuff at my lunch host. Again, after finding out halachically about moving the luggage.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: Emkay on April 30, 2014, 07:03:01 PM
Confused. lol But yes, I remember you mentioning this in a diff thread. Unsure how it would work out with Shabbos issues like moving suitcases to another place for use after Shabbos, etc. But I'll contact them to find out what their policy is.
now im confused. I deff did not qoute someone From 08.
I was trying to qoute you
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: @Yehuda on April 30, 2014, 07:07:01 PM
now im confused. I deff did not qoute someone From 08.
I was trying to qoute you
lol MODS!
Title: Suggestions for Shabbos-Friendly Getaways
Post by: etech0 on July 03, 2014, 04:44:32 PM
Someone I know is looking for ideas for a shabbos getaway in the Tristate area. Something with nice accomodations,  a minyan within walking distance, and ready made kosher food.

Any suggestions? Thanks.

(Oh and if there is already a thread for this then I duly apologize)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Shabbos-Friendly Getaways
Post by: TimT on July 03, 2014, 04:47:08 PM
For 1 person ? Family ? Whole group ?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Shabbos-Friendly Getaways
Post by: Super Speed on July 03, 2014, 05:41:01 PM
Seems etech0 is on a roll with all these new threads lately... >:(

Title: Re: Suggestions for Shabbos-Friendly Getaways
Post by: srap on July 03, 2014, 05:44:50 PM
This one is a great one for summer, no?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Shabbos-Friendly Getaways
Post by: kracked dude on July 03, 2014, 06:19:09 PM
This one is a great one for summer, no?
+1 anyone know of anything 1-1Ĺhrs from 5towns? Minyan in or near hotel would be great.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Shabbos-Friendly Getaways
Post by: kracked dude on July 03, 2014, 06:24:10 PM
This thread may have some good info
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=29568.0 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=29568.0)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Shabbos-Friendly Getaways
Post by: etech0 on July 03, 2014, 06:26:37 PM
For 1 person ? Family ? Whole group ?
for a couple
Title: Re: Suggestions for Shabbos-Friendly Getaways
Post by: etech0 on July 03, 2014, 06:26:58 PM
Seems etech0 is on a roll with all these new threads lately... >:(
Why the sad face?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Shabbos-Friendly Getaways
Post by: Super Speed on July 03, 2014, 06:49:17 PM
Why the sad face?
Spam???

Title: Re: Suggestions for Shabbos-Friendly Getaways
Post by: moko on July 03, 2014, 07:03:27 PM
Someo. though they do ask I know is looking for ideas for a shabbos getaway in the Tristate area. Something with nice accomodations,  a minyan within walking distance, and ready made kosher food.

Any suggestions? Thanks.

(Oh and if there is already a thread for this then I duly apologize)
there is a decently priced ($580 incl. tax) full service weekend this shabbos at the empire hotel in Secacus, nj.
Throughout the summer there is usually a minyan at the embassy suites Parsippany, though they do ask attendees to contribute $ 30 towards the minyan room. There are many other hotels walking distance from this one. Check the links in the other thread for more info (im on a mobile)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Shabbos-Friendly Getaways
Post by: moko on July 03, 2014, 07:39:34 PM
http://shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com/?m=1
all the info is here including the flyer for July 4 weekend
Title: Re: Suggestions for Shabbos-Friendly Getaways
Post by: srap on July 03, 2014, 08:04:40 PM
http://shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com/?m=1 (http://shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com/?m=1)
all the info is here including the flyer for July 4 weekend
Shabbaton weekend sold out.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Shabbos-Friendly Getaways
Post by: etech0 on July 03, 2014, 09:09:31 PM
Spam???
mods, if my threads are spam please let me know / delete them.
I apologize again for not finding the existing thread before posting. Thanks to all the people who responded with helpful suggestions, much appreciated!

[bows out]

Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on July 13, 2014, 12:50:56 AM
Finishing melava malka at the Mahwah Courtyard..... full report soon to come.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Srsy on July 16, 2014, 09:19:37 AM
Besides Shabbos Getaway does anybody know a place this shabbos with a minyan in the hotel or near by?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on July 16, 2014, 03:45:32 PM
Besides Shabbos Getaway does anybody know a place this shabbos with a minyan in the hotel or near by?
hotelsnearshuls.com  use the old site it's easier to navigate
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on July 29, 2014, 04:36:06 PM
Shabbos Sheva Brachos at the Courtyard by Marriott- Mahwah, NJ (http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/ewrmw-courtyard-mahwah/)
(read about my first Shabbaton here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=29568.msg602164#msg602164))
Once again, Shabbos worked out almost perfectly.
The hotel is located on NJ 17 south, just outside of Monsey
We switched hotels due to the fact that the Red Bank Courtyard went up to a cat. 4 (20k) while this hotel was just a cat. 2, and just as nice. From the beginning we had issues with 2 of the staff (the assistant manager and the front desk manager) but didn't affect shabbos in any way, hence the "almost perfectly".
We arrived at the hotel Friday afternoon around 1pm and immediately they took care of check in, though check in isn't until 3pm. most of our 14 rooms were placed on the ground level facing the courtyard though a few were placed on the 2nd floor due to personal preferences.

        The hotel itself is very conducive for a nice shabbos getaway due, in no small part, to the fantastic courtyard, and it isn't a very large hotel (just 3 floors and 140 rooms). The hotel is built around the courtyard which is therefore completely surrounded and needs no eruv to carry within it or across to your room. All the ground floor rooms have a small patio with 2 chairs and a small table which opens onto the larger hotel garden - or parking lot if you get a lot facing room  >:(, none of us did though. (though some of our rooms had larger personal patios - short stone wall around it- which jutted out into the courtyard with no balcony above or overhanging trees- for the DDF'r looking for a sukka friendly hotel room) All of the upper floor rooms all had balconies overlooking the garden. The hotel was renovated about 6 months ago with a fresh and modern decor and looks surprisingly like the pictures you find on the website.

        The conference room (1 of 2) is 650 sqf. with a coat closet and countertop. The room comfortably was setup for 30 ppl. and an additional 15 in the "shul" section (I would estimate that you could setup for 50-60 ppl comfortably with "U" shaped setup, if you use the whole room). I brought a fridge with me, as the hotel was unable to provide one (though they offered to arrange one with a rental company which I declined) I had completely forgotten about mechitzas for davening, and in a flash of inspiration decided that the projector screens in the closet would make a perfect mechitza.  The hotel officially allowed us to setup hot plates and a crockpot on the (marble) countertop in the room.(though I made sure to get that in writing from the sales staff)

        Cost: The conference room was $350 for Shabbos and $150 for Friday- essentially ours from 1 pm on Friday to 12 am motzei shabbos for $550. including tax.
The rooms cost $139 reg. rate or $109 Marriott rewards offer rate (available for rewards members) or 10000 points per night.
This time we decided to just buy food (though I'm not posting the exact details due to the fact that it came from a family friend)
which is what I'd recommend. There are quite a few caterers that I contacted that would have done a  complete shabbos for 30 ppl for $1200.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 29, 2014, 05:21:10 PM
Nice TR! Where'd you get a Torah? By "buying food" do you mean buying from a takeout as opposed to having a caterer come in?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on July 29, 2014, 07:50:49 PM
Nice TR! Where'd you get a Torah?
This time a relative. I think misaskim lends out for simchos too.
By "buying food" do you mean buying from a takeout as opposed to having a caterer come in?
I meant as opposed to last time I did it, we cooked. Though I suppose you could have a caterer come in but won't have access to a kitchen (the only kitchen is the hotel's restaurant kitchen). Fwiu,  most of the prep work and all of the cooking for these short weekends is done at an off site commissary.
Though, if you're looking for a catered weekend I think the most economical location is the Radisson Piscataway . They have a kosher kitchen, plus I think they can help out with a sefer torah.
We chose this location bec. of the option to use points and the courtyard setup. (and i think our conference room was alittle cheaper than the Radisson. )
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 29, 2014, 08:05:02 PM
This time a relative. I think misaskim lends out for simchos too. I meant as opposed to last time I did it, we cooked. Though I suppose you could have a caterer come in but won't have access to a kitchen (the only kitchen is the hotel's restaurant kitchen). Fwiu,  most of the prep work and all of the cooking for these short weekends is done at an off site commissary.
Though, if you're looking for a catered weekend I think the most economical location is the Radisson Piscataway . They have a kosher kitchen, plus I think they can help out with a sefer torah.
We chose this location bec. of the option to use points and the courtyard setup. (and i think our conference room was alittle cheaper than the Radisson. )
Cool, no simcha planned but I thought this is a cool idea, especially at 10k a room.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: A3 on September 02, 2014, 07:36:15 AM
Anybody planning on being around stamford this weekend?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: A3 on October 31, 2014, 02:14:06 PM
Has anyone stayed at the Hyatt Regency Jersey City for Shabbas?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: A3 on November 04, 2014, 03:12:23 PM
When staying at a hotel for Shabbas.. Where do y'all like candles? I like to eat the meal in a nice corner or outside.. and I dont like to leave fire in the room...
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: DMYD on November 04, 2014, 03:15:27 PM
When staying at a hotel for Shabbas.. Where do y'all like candles? I like to eat the meal in a nice corner or outside.. and I dont like to leave fire in the room...
where you eat or where you sleep
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: thaber on November 05, 2014, 02:57:28 AM
PSA I might have missed it,  but eiruv chatzeros must be done to carry outside your room,  even in the hallway,  if more than one room has Jews occupying it.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on November 05, 2014, 08:19:37 AM
PSA I might have missed it,  but eiruv chatzeros must be done to carry outside your room,  even in the hallway,  if more than one room has Jews occupying it.
machlokes haposkim
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: thaber on November 05, 2014, 09:24:46 AM
machlokes haposkim
If you have a moment,  please point me to who says you don't need one
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on November 05, 2014, 09:43:01 AM
If you have a moment,  please point me to who says you don't need one
R' Moshe.
see articles from wiki
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: thaber on November 05, 2014, 09:48:45 AM
R' Moshe.
see articles from wiki
Got it.  Thanks. 
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moish on November 05, 2014, 12:10:10 PM
When staying at a hotel for Shabbas.. Where do y'all like candles? I like to eat the meal in a nice corner or outside.. and I dont like to leave fire in the room...

use electric
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: reebok on December 09, 2014, 12:24:03 PM
Anyone go for a shabbos away near the five towns?
Somewhere on long island...
Would really appreciate any advice, thanks!!
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Dan on December 09, 2014, 12:30:29 PM
PSA I might have missed it,  but eiruv chatzeros must be done to carry outside your room,  even in the hallway,  if more than one room has Jews occupying it.
Hotels can move you at will and can enter your room at any time.
What's the argument that you need E"C?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: thaber on December 10, 2014, 03:05:35 AM
Hotels can move you at will and can enter your room at any time.
What's the argument that you need E"C?
The simple reading of the SA (370:2) and MB is that if you rent a room then you need EC. That's how the chazon ish and others understand it and pasken. Igros Moshe understands that immovable objects are considered tefisas yad and helps, but others argue, and IMO the IGM isn't as clear as some people want it to be, he's not talking about hotels per se.
the idea of being able to move you, and other reasons to be meikel came around later, and are certainly valid and accepted, but it seems like the general psak that is given, at least that I've heard, is that you should do it without a bracha, but including a kinyan rishus from the manager (future DDMS post - how to take out a whole hotel for $1).
All this doesn't apply to when you have a communal DR, or you're the only Jew there.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: efflpetzel on January 08, 2015, 12:40:15 AM
I'm spending shabbos in the GHK soon, does it pay to shlep a hotplate to keep food warm or is there any other way
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: mochada on January 08, 2015, 01:54:31 AM
I'm spending shabbos in the GHK soon, does it pay to shlep a hotplate to keep food warm or is there any other way

That's what I did.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: zip212 on January 08, 2015, 01:41:45 PM
Hi looking for a hotel in NY or NJ that's near a shul (within 3-4 blocks walking distance) or if anyone has a weekend planned in Jan or Feb that we can join minyan. We would be between 5-7 couples.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on January 08, 2015, 06:11:37 PM
Hi looking for a hotel in NY or NJ that's near a shul (within 3-4 blocks walking distance) or if anyone has a weekend planned in Jan or Feb that we can join minyan. We would be between 5-7 couples.

Thanks.
hotelsnearshuls.com
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: DMYD on January 08, 2015, 06:49:42 PM
hotelsnearshuls.com
wow cool website thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on January 09, 2015, 10:42:56 AM
wow cool website thanks for sharing.
hasn't been updated in a while. i've emailed him several updates which havent been added
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Alexsei on January 11, 2015, 01:08:44 PM
hasn't been updated in a while. i've emailed him several updates which havent been added
Please email again info@hotelsnearshuls.com
Will be updated soon
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: zip212 on January 12, 2015, 11:39:53 AM
hotelsnearshuls.com

Thanks not much there that's close by.

Any groups going to hotel in NY or NJ for weekend of Jan 23rd
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on January 12, 2015, 11:54:39 AM
Thanks not much there that's close by.

Any groups going to hotel in NY or NJ for weekend of Jan 23rd
most of the hotels are in NJ. Stamford,  CT also has a bunch of hotels within walking distance to the yeshiva and shuls
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: zip212 on January 13, 2015, 10:15:15 PM
Thanks any suggestions of one in nj-tried so many already
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: dwkl on January 27, 2015, 03:33:02 PM
anyone aware of a hotel shabbos getaway inc food for a couple  for this shabbos p' beshalach
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on January 27, 2015, 06:03:44 PM
anyone aware of a hotel shabbos getaway inc food for a couple  for this shabbos p' beshalach
check the FJJ. I think Bushkill has a getaway this weekend.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: cooljoe613 on February 05, 2015, 12:43:36 PM
just stayed for shaboss here

lots of issues like auto. curtains  too sensors... if your in you room or not for A/C and BATHROOM lights etc.

closets have auto lights and all fridges and mini bars

balcony has sensors for A/C to shut off when opened

had a butler pick me up for davaning and he drew the shades in the am

i had a full engineering team disable all the sensors and lights  besides the bathroom where we shut off the  lights and they put in a lamp

this is a really nice place to stay and they upgraded me to a royal 2 bedroom suite free (platinum spg) (hotel was sold out online)

i got 4 pm checkout and they packed up my stuff and gave me a day villa @ the ocean to hang out till shaboss was done its a real room with A/C  couches showers and bathrooms with a fridge it goes for $850 a day!


you must be very careful not too lean on the light switches because its a touch screen and you will turn off or on or dim the lights very easily!!

 8)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on February 05, 2015, 03:54:53 PM
just stayed for shaboss here

lots of issues like auto. curtains  too sensors... if your in you room or not for A/C and BATHROOM lights etc.

closets have auto lights and all fridges and mini bars

balcony has sensors for A/C to shut off when opened

had a butler pick me up for davaning and he drew the shades in the am

i had a full engineering team disable all the sensors and lights  besides the bathroom where we shut off the  lights and they put in a lamp

this is a really nice place to stay and they upgraded me to a royal 2 bedroom suite free (platinum spg) (hotel was sold out online)

i got 4 pm checkout and they packed up my stuff and gave me a day villa @ the ocean to hang out till shaboss was done its a real room with A/C  couches showers and bathrooms with a fridge it goes for $850 a day!


you must be very careful not too lean on the light switches because its a touch screen and you will turn off or on or dim the lights very easily!!

 8)
where is "here"? ???
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: cooljoe613 on February 05, 2015, 04:12:12 PM
sorry lol the St Regis bal harbour
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: CS1 on February 05, 2015, 04:29:21 PM
sorry lol the St Regis bal harbour

very nice! Right on the water. There is so much new construction going on there...
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: joeb1 on February 08, 2015, 04:27:04 PM
Not the fanciest place but eden roc is a pleasure to stay in over shabbos ! You will have close to no issues there especially if they give you a ground floor /low floor room
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on May 28, 2015, 12:46:53 AM
Update:
http://shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com/?m=1
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: DMYD on May 28, 2015, 01:18:57 AM
Wow tough, but I don't blame them.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on June 25, 2015, 06:10:42 PM
Anyone know if theres going to ve a minyan at the sheraton parsippany this shabbos?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: yakrot on June 26, 2015, 03:18:03 AM
Anyone know if theres going to ve a minyan at the sheraton parsippany this shabbos?
I heard there will not be. 
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: yg99 on June 27, 2015, 11:33:50 PM
Anyone ever stay with Noam HaShabbos catered by Tyberg?

This year they offer three Shabbosim. The first is next week in Crown Plaza Southbury CT.

How is the food (quality & quantity)? What type of crowd do they cater to?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: chayal101 on July 01, 2015, 02:23:39 PM
Any Hotels having a Minyan this week?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: VacationLover on July 01, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
Any Hotels having a Minyan this week?
Embassy suites in Parsippany NJ should have (not confirmed)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Adam101 on July 01, 2015, 02:28:32 PM
Embassy suites in Parsippany NJ should have (not confirmed)
How many spg pts per night there on weekends?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: coralsnake on July 01, 2015, 02:29:15 PM
How many spg pts per night there on weekends?
Embassy suites is Hilton
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Adam101 on July 01, 2015, 02:30:06 PM
Embassy suites is Hilton
Your right my bad. Any idea how many pts for the cheapest, ?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: coralsnake on July 01, 2015, 02:30:38 PM
Your right my bad. Any idea how many pts for the cheapest, ?
Try the website?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: VacationLover on July 01, 2015, 02:34:31 PM
Your right my bad. Any idea how many pts for the cheapest, ?
I think 30k. rather book online (when i was there i paid on Orbitz $130 a night for a handicap room which was perfect).
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 01, 2015, 09:10:32 PM
I think 30k. rather book online (when i was there i paid on Orbitz $130 a night for a handicap room which was perfect).
It's actually about the same, since their crazy deval, Hilton points are worth about $0.005 each. $130 plus taxes will come out to $145-$150 basically a value of $0.005 if he uses points.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on July 01, 2015, 10:58:53 PM


Quote
Dear friends,
 
 
Update as of Tuesday, June 30th, 2:30PM
 
Just spoke to manager again:

Embassy Suites in Parsippany will
NOT ALLOW CROCK POTS AND HOTPLATES
in the rooms, therefore

WE WILL NOT BE THERE THIS SUMMER AT ALL!!!
 
THEY WILL MAKE YOU SIGN A PAPER WHEN YOU CHECK IN.

They said again:
THEY WILL EVICT YOU IF THEY CATCH YOU!!!
 
My suggestion, do not go there for Shabbos!!!
 
I've tried so many other places and did not succeed as of yet.

Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 01, 2015, 11:54:07 PM

^^^ is this an issue at other hotels? Or is it particularly the hotels that have Jews coming all the time, for shabbos?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: grodnoking on July 01, 2015, 11:57:34 PM
^^^ is this an issue at other hotels? Or is it particularly the hotels that have Jews coming all the time, for shabbos?
When I was in Vermont the dining room had a crock pots lining the windowsills. They were very accommodating there.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 02, 2015, 12:08:13 AM
When I was in Vermont the dining room had a crock pots lining the windowsills. They were very accommodating there.
Right. I have done that (kept crockpot in room) myself many a time. My fear always is they will come in and see it, and raise a ruckus. Fire safety and what-not. Now I see some hotels are actually enforcing it. My question just is, if this is/should be a real concern?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: greatdeals on July 02, 2015, 12:09:26 AM
Quote
Right. I have done that (kept crockpot in room) myself many a time. My fear always is they will come in and see it, and raise a ruckus. Fire safety and what-not. Now I see some hotels are actually enforcing it. My question just is, if this is/should be a real concern?
I was wondering the same thing. I am a bit nervous to use it in the hotel
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Chapshnell on July 02, 2015, 12:29:16 AM
especially if the chulent smells delicious.. you can smell it in the hall when you walk down
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: srap on July 02, 2015, 12:52:37 AM
I was wondering the same thing. I am a bit nervous to use it in the hotel
Crockpots and platas are heat conducting devices which require much higher wattage.  If the outlet does not support such high wattage, the wires overheat and can cause melting of the rubber insulation, power outages, heated walls, and fire, chas v'sh. 

An outlet that supports an iron should support a crockpot.  The difference is that an iron is used for a short period of time; a crockpot for at least 25 HOURS!
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on July 02, 2015, 04:50:52 AM
^^^ is this an issue at other hotels? Or is it particularly the hotels that have Jews coming all the time, for shabbos?
This is for the embassy suites Parsippany NJ
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Matovu on July 02, 2015, 09:06:45 AM
25 hours ?
Put a shabbos clock so it shut's off by 12pm shabbos afternoon...
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 02, 2015, 09:11:05 AM
25 hours ?
Put a shabbos clock so it shut's off by 12pm shabbos afternoon...
+1
I'm not concerned about the actual safety concerns as I have done this many times with no issues. I am more concerned with their perceived safety concerns. Also it's probably officially a fire code violation.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: TimT on July 02, 2015, 10:24:59 AM
25 hours ?
Put a shabbos clock so it shut's off by 12pm shabbos afternoon...
That's still about 16 hours.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: srap on July 02, 2015, 10:42:29 AM
That's still about 16 hours.
Compared to 5-20 minutes for an iron.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 02, 2015, 10:46:47 AM
Compared to 5-20 minutes for an iron.
That's still about 16 hours.
Are you guys saying the behind the wall wiring isn't strong enough for this? Or is it just in general the issue of keeping it on for so long? (And would be the same issue in a regular kitchen?)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: srap on July 02, 2015, 10:50:27 AM
Are you guys saying the behind the wall wiring isn't strong enough for this? Or is it just in general the issue of keeping it on for so long? (And would be the same issue in a regular kitchen?)

Keeping it on for so long is what causes
... If the outlet does not support such high wattage, the wires overheat and can cause melting of the rubber insulation, power outages, heated walls, and fire, chas v'sh. 
...
I would surmise especially in older hotels.  As a precaution maybe feel the wall above the outlet.  Not sure how much help that would be on shabbos, though. 
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on July 02, 2015, 10:54:18 AM
^^^ is this an issue at other hotels? Or is it particularly the hotels that have Jews coming all the time, for shabbos?
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g46715-d92525-r267158275-Holiday_Inn_Hotel_Suites_Parsippany_Fairfield-Parsippany_Morris_County_New_Jersey.html#review267158275
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: VacationLover on July 02, 2015, 11:00:12 AM
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g46715-d92525-r267158275-Holiday_Inn_Hotel_Suites_Parsippany_Fairfield-Parsippany_Morris_County_New_Jersey.html#review267158275
The reply is.... no words....
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: clear thinker on July 02, 2015, 11:25:08 AM
I used the Hampton inn in Parsippany to arrange a shabbos extremely helpful and accommodating!
I would recommend them to anyone.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on July 02, 2015, 11:38:05 AM
The reply is.... no words....
ouch
what a chilul Hashem
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: srap on July 02, 2015, 11:42:04 AM
The reply is.... no words....
To us who understand.  How is the read to someone who does not know our culture?  Would they assume that we would have asked the waiter to please assign the bill to our room without us signing?  You can dan l'chaf zchus some of the claims, but all in all yikes.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 02, 2015, 11:57:40 AM
To us who understand.  How is the read to someone who does not know our culture?  Would they assume that we would have asked the waiter to please assign the bill to our room without us signing?  You can dan l'chaf zchus some of the claims, but all in all yikes.
I've been in similar predicaments in many hotels on shabbos, as long as your a mentsch, they will do whatever they can to acomodate. The problems starts when we they come with their self entitled attitudes. The hotel staff feels taken advantage of. Even more so when these requests become a demand, instead of a polite request.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: DMYD on July 02, 2015, 11:58:58 AM
I used the Hampton inn in Parsippany to arrange a shabbos extremely helpful and accommodating!
I would recommend them to anyone.
How long ago was that?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 02, 2015, 12:00:57 PM
The reply is.... no words....
I'm in no way justifying the reviews. See my previous post. However, if you look at the manager response, she really fought back and chewed him out. First I thought, he had it coming, but look at her next few responses, she really goes to town, she actually went so far to call one of her guests a liar.... 2 sides to every story...
 #justsayin
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Emkay on July 02, 2015, 12:07:00 PM
I'm in no way justifying the reviews. See my previous post. However, if you look at the manager response, she really fought back and chewed him out. First I thought, he had it coming, but look at her next few responses, she really goes to town, she actually went so far to call one of her guests a liar.... 2 sides to every story...
 #justsayin
Neither his review nor her side of the story justified anything he did
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 02, 2015, 12:17:24 PM
Neither his review nor her side of the story justified anything he did
Again, my point wasn't to justify him at all (as I stated). I was merely pointing out that she isn't the nicest, or most professional GM, as is clearly evidenced by the kind of responses she writes. Hence, the conclusion that there may have been real issues that occurred during his stay. That would still not entitle him to write that review though.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Jm1248 on July 02, 2015, 12:19:59 PM
I've been in similar predicaments in many hotels on shabbos, as long as your a mentsch, they will do whatever they can to acomodate. The problems starts when we they come with their self entitled attitudes. The hotel staff feels taken advantage of. Even more so when these requests become a demand, instead of a polite request.
+1
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: srap on July 02, 2015, 12:33:00 PM
Getting back to the title of the thread...where is a good getaway for shabbos?  Something with nature, walks, peaceful.  Not a 5k IHG on the highway (although I wouldn't mind that price)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Jm1248 on July 02, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
Getting back to the title of the thread...where is a good getaway for shabbos?  Something with nature, walks, peaceful.  Not a 5k IHG on the highway (although I wouldn't mind that price)
What area?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: srap on July 02, 2015, 01:29:07 PM
What area?
NJ, NY, CT, PA
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: clear thinker on July 02, 2015, 01:41:56 PM
How long ago was that?
2 years
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: DMYD on July 02, 2015, 01:45:34 PM
2 years
Figured cuz it looks like they just updated their policy.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: VacationLover on July 02, 2015, 03:26:49 PM
Getting back to the title of the thread...where is a good getaway for shabbos?  Something with nature, walks, peaceful.  Not a 5k IHG on the highway (although I wouldn't mind that price)
Crowne plaza stamford ct  :P
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: clear thinker on July 02, 2015, 04:22:31 PM
Figured cuz it looks like they just updated their policy.
Where did you check?
You called them?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: DMYD on July 02, 2015, 04:23:37 PM
Where did you check?
You called them?
No just from people who tried and was told about hot plates.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: grodnoking on July 03, 2015, 01:00:22 AM
If I get a suite with a kitchen can I use a hotplate then?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on July 03, 2015, 08:18:24 AM
Crowne plaza stamford ct  :P
Something with nature, walks
not really
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on July 03, 2015, 08:20:49 AM
If I get a suite with a kitchen can I use a hotplate then?
they probably wouldn't realize because many people cook there. The first clue they get that someone is using unapproved appliances is the cooking smell so i would say your pretty aafe to be cooking in a suite with a kitchen (not just a kitchenette)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: sruly on July 05, 2015, 08:29:47 AM
Don't know if this has been mentioned before but after spending dozens of shabbosim in hotels we never thought of this before.

We packed along a timer for the lamp so we can turn it off at night.

It was so simple and  brilliant.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moish on July 05, 2015, 09:33:11 AM
Don't know if this has been mentioned before but after spending dozens of shabbosim in hotels we never thought of this before.

We packed along a timer for the lamp so we can turn it off at night.

It was so simple and  brilliant.
its been mentioned on the forums, i hadnt thought of it either before, but indeed a great idea
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Jm1248 on July 05, 2015, 09:34:38 AM
Don't know if this has been mentioned before but after spending dozens of shabbosim in hotels we never thought of this before.

We packed along a timer for the lamp so we can turn it off at night.

It was so simple and  brilliant.
+1 good idea!
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: aygart on July 05, 2015, 09:43:24 AM
So you never heard about the Kosher lamp?
a tad larger than a timer
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Jm1248 on July 05, 2015, 09:43:53 AM
So you never heard about the Kosher lamp?
You are comparing shlepping a kosher lamp to bringing a little timer?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on July 08, 2015, 08:30:29 PM
Getting back to the title of the thread...where is a good getaway for shabbos?  Something with nature, walks, peaceful.  Not a 5k IHG on the highway (although I wouldn't mind that price)

Sheraton Parsippany could be a good option for you. There's is a nice walking trail around a lake behind it. Weekend prices are reasonable (it usually doesn't make sense to use points). There are often minyanim at the hotel on shabbos and it's walkable to a shul. There is an outdoor and indoor pool.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: srap on July 08, 2015, 09:09:58 PM
Sheraton Parsippany could be a good option for you. There's is a nice walking trail around a lake behind it. Weekend prices are reasonable (it usually doesn't make sense to use points). There are often minyanim at the hotel on shabbos and it's walkable to a shul. There is an outdoor and indoor pool.
Sounds great.  Ty. 
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on July 08, 2015, 09:14:06 PM
Sounds great.  Ty.
For an alternative, consider the Hyatt House across the street where you'll get a suite with a full kitchen
(though service is considerably better at the Sheraton)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: kishke on July 19, 2015, 11:07:35 PM
Anyone know if theres going to be a minyan at these hotels shabbos nachmu?
checked hampton in parssipany and its sold out
n yes will be bringing a hot plate with a timer, n also a timer for the crockpot
so i think hyatt sounds better,cuz they r suites, but e need minyan
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on July 20, 2015, 10:43:01 AM
Anyone know if theres going to be a minyan at these hotels shabbos nachmu?
checked hampton in parssipany and its sold out
n yes will be bringing a hot plate with a timer, n also a timer for the crockpot
so i think hyatt sounds better,cuz they r suites, but e need minyan
i walked from the hyatt to the shul. Its a 20 min walk, but it's a nice walk (most of the way)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: yg99 on July 22, 2015, 02:27:46 PM
How does the Chalet compare to the Raleigh?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on July 23, 2015, 10:22:16 PM
How does the Chalet compare to the Raleigh?
Chalet is a real dump not upkept and food isn't good, went once and never again
Raleigh is old but they take care of it, new mattresses, parts are renovated and the food is amazing.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: yg99 on July 23, 2015, 11:23:39 PM
I heard they fixed up part of it and they have a new chef this year.

That's why I'm asking.

Anyone have experience this year?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Menachemfrombp on July 23, 2015, 11:59:23 PM
Any shabbos nachmi hotel programs that still has place??
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: chayal101 on July 31, 2015, 12:17:08 AM
So where will you be this Shabbos Nachami??
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: jackofall on July 31, 2015, 01:28:50 AM
So where will you be this Shabbos Nachami??
Bushkill, anybody else being there?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on August 05, 2015, 10:20:43 PM
looking for someplace to go to this shabbos does not need to be hotel specifically. vrbo property is fine as well as long as its walking distance to minyan and not longer than two hour drive from monsey. anyone?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Menachem613 on August 05, 2015, 10:27:33 PM
Anyplace in NJ with a Sefer Torah and minyan this weekend?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: MarkS on August 06, 2015, 12:58:29 AM
Anyplace in NJ with a Sefer Torah and minyan this weekend?
Looks Like Homewood Suites, Somerset, NJ may have one.
http://www.shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Marco Polo on August 06, 2015, 08:38:18 AM
looking for someplace to go to this shabbos does not need to be hotel specifically. vrbo property is fine as well as long as its walking distance to minyan and not longer than two hour drive from monsey. anyone?
Check Hyatt in New Brunswick.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: DMYD on August 06, 2015, 09:37:22 AM
looking for someplace to go to this shabbos does not need to be hotel specifically. vrbo property is fine as well as long as its walking distance to minyan and not longer than two hour drive from monsey. anyone?
If you want to go to Niagara with a plane then you shouldn't be driving more then 2 hrs.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: srap on August 07, 2015, 10:24:07 AM
looking for someplace to go to this shabbos does not need to be hotel specifically. vrbo property is fine as well as long as its walking distance to minyan and not longer than two hour drive from monsey. anyone?
If you want to go to Niagara with a plane then you shouldn't be driving more then 2 hrs.
That is nice out of the box thinking  :)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: DMYD on August 07, 2015, 10:26:40 AM
That is nice out of the box thinking  :)
Always have to be creative.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: bluesky on August 09, 2015, 11:35:51 AM
Anyone know if there is going to be a minyan and sefer torah in Parsippany this shabbos?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Cw3323 on August 20, 2015, 10:59:20 AM
We are trying to form a minyan at the Embassy piscataway this weekend, we are 6 and we could get a sefer torah, we still have a few double beds available  please pm me for more info   thanks 
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on August 20, 2015, 11:45:34 AM
We are trying to form a minyan at the Embassy piscataway this weekend, we are 6 and we could get a sefer torah, we still have a few double beds available  please pm me for more info   thanks
Whats with food? Officially they dont allow hot plates
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: juda on August 20, 2015, 11:48:56 AM
We are looking for a few rooms too, was also wondering how you get around with that hot plate, and do you have a certain rate there?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: A3 on August 20, 2015, 11:56:22 AM
Whats with food? Officially they dont allow hot plates

I thought that was parsippany....

Or not,
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: juda on August 20, 2015, 12:04:23 PM
I thought that was parsippany....

Or not,
it's a don't ask don't tell situation I believe
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on August 20, 2015, 12:10:57 PM
I thought that was parsippany....

Or not,
Possibly
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: brodes18 on August 26, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
Looking for something in the NY/NJ area this shabbos. Anyone with existing plans. We are two families.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: 1050BU on September 17, 2015, 10:27:17 AM
Any minyan this week at the Sheraton Parsippany?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: A3 on September 17, 2015, 11:02:38 AM
Any minyan this week at the Sheraton Parsippany?

+1

I may be interested as well.
Would need to know by this afternoon, two adult men.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on November 18, 2015, 07:16:53 PM
would anyone know whether theres minyan in tannersville, ny this shabbos?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: thaber on November 23, 2015, 02:02:33 AM
would anyone know whether theres minyan in tannersville, ny this shabbos?
http://jewishmountaintop.com/index.php try and find a phone # there,
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on November 23, 2015, 09:16:46 AM
http://jewishmountaintop.com/index.php try and find a phone # there,
tx
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Hershy718 on December 02, 2015, 10:25:51 PM
Hi,
Would anyone know if there's minyan this shabbos in Embassy Suites Parsippany? Or a shul walking distance?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: thaber on December 03, 2015, 04:01:06 AM
Is there any regular kosher hotel with meals in the NY area?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on December 03, 2015, 07:07:27 AM
Is there any regular kosher hotel with meals in the NY area?
avenue plaza, BP.
Raleigh, South Fallsburg.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: thaber on December 03, 2015, 10:15:44 AM
avenue plaza, BP.
Raleigh, South Fallsburg.
Thank you
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: yid on December 20, 2015, 04:01:55 AM
im thinking of going away this coming shabbos 12/26- any groups going to any spg hotels in tri state area where will be minyan?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: shnoz on December 22, 2015, 11:19:27 AM
Looking to book a Shabbos Sheva Berachos for around 100 ppl in the tristate area, I was told by Sheraton that company policy is not to allow points for large gatherings etc.. Anyone ever hear of that?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on December 22, 2015, 12:14:18 PM
Looking to book a Shabbos Sheva Berachos for around 100 ppl in the tristate area, I was told by Sheraton that company policy is not to allow points for large gatherings etc.. Anyone ever hear of that?
you might want to post your question in the starwood thread
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: shnoz on December 22, 2015, 12:27:12 PM
you might want to post your question in the starwood thread
Good point will do ty
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Charliem on December 22, 2015, 01:51:34 PM
Looking for a  place I can go for Shabbos  within a hr of Jerusalem that has mehadrin  meals either in the hotel or  near by
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: yakrot on December 22, 2015, 01:56:06 PM

Looking for a  place I can go for Shabbos  within a hr of Jerusalem that has mehadrin  meals either in the hotel or  near by
kibbutz lavi? Not actually sure how far it is but check it out
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Charliem on December 22, 2015, 02:06:40 PM
It's too far .My wife can't travel that far  but thanx for the suggestion
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Adam101 on January 06, 2016, 10:01:14 AM
Anyone know the status of  Sheraton in Eatontown for shabbos?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on January 06, 2016, 05:42:20 PM
Anyone know the status of  Sheraton in Eatontown for shabbos?
status of what?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Adam101 on January 06, 2016, 05:42:46 PM
status of what?
Anyone have experience there?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on January 06, 2016, 05:51:30 PM
Anyone have experience there?
was there for shabbos a few years ago. Older hotel DeCent upkeep but no great shakes. Davend at the Whalepond Shultz which is in the eruv if it matters
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on January 10, 2016, 01:55:59 PM
does anyone have a packing list for shabbos in hotel with all details like challah cover, salt, besomim... (all those things easy to forget)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: MarkS on January 10, 2016, 02:03:01 PM
does anyone have a packing list for shabbos in hotel with all details like challah cover, salt, besomim... (all those things easy to forget)
Duct tape (for door lock)
Can use napkin for challah cover.
There's really nothing special besides the food for Shabbos and paper goods.
Kiddush and Besamim supplies.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on January 10, 2016, 02:31:38 PM
Duct tape (for door lock)
Can use napkin for challah cover.
There's really nothing special besides the food for Shabbos and paper goods.
Kiddush and Besamim supplies.
and candles and wine opener and ... was looking for comprehensive list of food, paper goods, and kitchen gadgets. had one just cant find it
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Adam101 on January 10, 2016, 03:05:33 PM
and candles and wine opener and ... was looking for comprehensive list of food, paper goods, and kitchen gadgets. had one just cant find it
When/where is the party?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on January 10, 2016, 11:14:40 PM
When/where is the party?
how was yours this weekend?  :P
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on January 10, 2016, 11:15:37 PM
does anyone have a packing list for shabbos in hotel with all details like challah cover, salt, besomim... (all those things easy to forget)
done with mine. pm me if it could be of help to anyone else...
Title: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: yakrot on January 10, 2016, 11:28:45 PM
done with mine. pm me if it could be of help to anyone else...
why don't you just add it to the wiki I'm sure it will be a help to many, me included.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: srap on January 11, 2016, 12:16:56 AM
why don't you just add it to the wiki I'm sure it will be a help to many, me included.
Done. 
Some of the words regarding cultural mitzvos were specifically chosen since this is a public forum. Hamavin yavin.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on January 11, 2016, 12:51:42 AM
Done. 
Some of the words regarding cultural mitzvos were specifically chosen since this is a public forum. Hamavin yavin.
mine is just sliiiiiightly longer... what are the tons of baggies for?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: srap on January 11, 2016, 01:24:06 AM
mine is just sliiiiiightly longer... what are the tons of baggies for?
Anything and everything:  food leftovers, snacks for car, small things to take in backpack, trail findings, etc.

What else did you have on your list?  This is just mainly the shabbos related items.  This list does not include chargers, electronics, hardware, clothes, games, etc. 
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on January 11, 2016, 08:30:26 AM
well my food list is very itemized including what is needed for each meal, plus general food, plus motzei/sunday, plus separate column for kitchen gadgets, paper goods, miscellaneous, clothing...
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: srap on January 11, 2016, 12:56:40 PM
well my food list is very itemized including what is needed for each meal, plus general food, plus motzei/sunday, plus separate column for kitchen gadgets, paper goods, miscellaneous, clothing...
I'd like to start a new thread where we all list our general packing lists.  We can see if someone else brings something that we hadn't thought about, as well as having a list for new timers who just haven't thought about it. 

Any objections?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on February 11, 2016, 10:40:05 PM
When setting VIP mode on an inncom thermostat, does VIP remain on the screen? It didnt for me... Disappeared after about 10 seconds. How do i know its still on VIP mode?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on February 12, 2016, 12:50:36 PM
When setting VIP mode on an inncom thermostat, does VIP remain on the screen? It didnt for me... Disappeared after about 10 seconds. How do i know its still on VIP mode?
Bump. Anyone? Time sensitive...
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: AROCKS1 on February 15, 2016, 02:38:36 PM
Ive tried searching info on this (what I believe is a relatively common) issue, and couldn't find anything. When staying at a hotel for shabbos and leaving motzei shabbos, is there any solution to not having to pay for the saturday nights stay?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: CS1 on February 15, 2016, 03:29:08 PM
Ive tried searching info on this (what I believe is a relatively common) issue, and couldn't find anything. When staying at a hotel for shabbos and leaving motzei shabbos, is there any solution to not having to pay for the saturday nights stay?

they will often let you check out (i.e. by 1:00pm) and you bring all of your belongings into a room -- they may permit you to use the premises for the rest of the day, however they won't usually allow you into your room. 4:00pm SPG plat check-out (or if they don't need the room and they allow extra time) helps with some of these issues, if needed.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: AROCKS1 on February 15, 2016, 05:25:49 PM
they will often let you check out (i.e. by 1:00pm) and you bring all of your belongings into a room -- they may permit you to use the premises for the rest of the day, however they won't usually allow you into your room. 4:00pm SPG plat check-out (or if they don't need the room and they allow extra time) helps with some of these issues, if needed.

While this solution may help with the checkout aspect of the process, I'm not sure how it helps with the hachana aspect. Wouldn't packing up my belongings and moving to another room for the purpose of motzei shabbos constitute hachana? (Unless of course, i'm misunderstanding you, or the halchos, or you have a psak that hachana would be mutar in this circumstance)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: MarkS on February 15, 2016, 05:31:48 PM
While this solution may help with the checkout aspect of the process, I'm not sure how it helps with the hachana aspect. Wouldn't packing up my belongings and moving to another room for the purpose of motzei shabbos constitute hachana? (Unless of course, i'm misunderstanding you, or the halchos, or you have a psak that hachana would be mutar in this circumstance)
I spoke to my Rav who said that as long as all of your muktza stuff is packed away before shabbos, you can pack everything else (because if not the hotel may take/discard it) up on shabbos. You can then instruct the hotel staff to take your muktza suitcase out of the room and direct it to a safe spot - again, they are kicking you out so instead of your stuff getting lost/stolen they can put it somewhere safe for you once they are evicting you anyway.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: 12HRS on February 15, 2016, 06:30:29 PM
I spoke to my Rav who said that as long as all of your muktza stuff is packed away before shabbos, you can pack everything else (because if not the hotel may take/discard it) up on shabbos. You can then instruct the hotel staff to take your muktza suitcase out of the room and direct it to a safe spot - again, they are kicking you out so instead of your stuff getting lost/stolen they can put it somewhere safe for you once they are evicting you anyway.

He said L'chatchila its ok to put yourself in that situation?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: MarkS on February 15, 2016, 06:34:37 PM
He said L'chatchila its ok to put yourself in that situation?
Yup. AYLOR
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: AROCKS1 on February 15, 2016, 08:20:03 PM
I spoke to my Rav who said that as long as all of your muktza stuff is packed away before shabbos, you can pack everything else (because if not the hotel may take/discard it) up on shabbos. You can then instruct the hotel staff to take your muktza suitcase out of the room and direct it to a safe spot - again, they are kicking you out so instead of your stuff getting lost/stolen they can put it somewhere safe for you once they are evicting you anyway.

Interesting psak! I will speak to my rav about it thanks!
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 15, 2016, 09:25:49 PM
I have packed everything into our suitcases except for what we needed on Shabbos and moved the bags to the front desk closet on Friday before Shabbos. Shabbos morning we took our pajamas and anything else we had left out and brought it down to our suitcase. Perhaps you can view those few items we brought down as "putting away" - the same way you would hang up your shirt after you wear it on Friday night, we put our stuff away in the morning into our suitcase that was already at the front desk. Hope that made some sense and perhaps helps.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on February 15, 2016, 10:41:55 PM
He said L'chatchila its ok to put yourself in that situation?
why not? Amira leakum is mutar for most muktzah cases
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: good sam on February 15, 2016, 10:58:58 PM
why not? Amira leakum is mutar for most muktzah cases
Plus, it's probably not amira leakum. They're taking it out because they need the room, once they're holding it they can bring it to a safe place.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: ushdadude on February 15, 2016, 11:18:56 PM
Hyatt Diamond status got me 7:30pm checkout 8)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: CS1 on February 17, 2016, 01:15:43 PM
Plus, it's probably not amira leakum. They're taking it out because they need the room, once they're holding it they can bring it to a safe place.
+1
Tzorich Mikomo, etc...

Hyatt Diamond status got me 7:30pm checkout 8)

that's even better! An hour after Shabbos -- Is this in Florida?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 17, 2016, 01:17:39 PM
Tzorich Mikomo, etc...
that only works for a kli shemilachto l'issur
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: ushdadude on February 17, 2016, 01:52:22 PM

that's even better! An hour after Shabbos -- Is this in Florida?
Was in hnl
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: yakrot on February 17, 2016, 04:16:47 PM
I was told the same reasoning my my rav. Since they need the room you don't need/want to be out its not an Amira liakum issue. I have done this many times in hotels without a problem the bellhop came took our stuff and held it until motzei shabbos
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on February 24, 2016, 02:39:39 PM
anyone know of any points hotels with <15 minute walk to shul for this shabbos within three hour drive of ny/nj? hotelsnearshuls.com isnt updated, and besides most of the shuls seem to be a 25 minute walk away.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Cw3323 on February 24, 2016, 02:44:10 PM
Hyatt Morristown is like 5 min walk
Hyatt New Brunswick was next door to the shul that burned down, you could call the rabbi and check where they currently daven.
Residence Inn West Orange also has a lot of shuls close by   
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: mochjas on February 24, 2016, 02:56:44 PM
In Stamford Connecticut you have the Marriott and sheraton within 15 min walk if a shul
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on February 24, 2016, 03:08:39 PM
Hyatt Morristown is like 5 min walk
Hyatt New Brunswick was next door to the shul that burned down, you could call the rabbi and check where they currently daven.
Residence Inn West Orange also has a lot of shuls close by   
In Stamford Connecticut you have the Marriott and sheraton within 15 min walk if a shul
tx! very helpful
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on February 25, 2016, 12:04:49 PM
does anyone have personal experience at the hyatt morristown, and could tell me if the hotel is shabbos friendly?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on February 27, 2016, 08:50:03 PM
does anyone have personal experience at the hyatt morristown, and could tell me if the hotel is shabbos friendly?
quick data points for hyatt morristown, nj.
wonderful service, updated hotel. got complimentary suite upgrade (platinum status) and they even sent up hospitality fruit bowl with whole fruits. non-sensor door easy to find. there are two sets of stairs though, and i believe they both have sensors which i didnt realize until i used it. two minyanim in area. one is 12 minute walk, but they didnt have minyan friday night that i was there. shabbos morning walked to further minyan which is in chabad yeshiva about 25 minutes away. several simultaneous minyanim, mikvah, kiddush...
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: bluesky on February 27, 2016, 09:45:02 PM
quick data points for hyatt morristown, nj.....
XLNT, Ty.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: zow on March 14, 2016, 01:25:33 PM
In Stamford Connecticut you have the Marriott and sheraton within 15 min walk if a shul
Does anyone have personal knowledge of, or experience with, any of the three shul options that are walkable from the Stamford Crowne Plaza?
http://congregationagudathsholom.org/
http://yistamford.shulcloud.com/
http://www.chabadstamford.org/

Feel free to PM me if you prefer.  We identify as modern orthodox but are comfortable in Chabad.  Curious to learn about the davening (spirited for flat), Kiddush, and how welcome we would feel as visitors.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: CS1 on March 14, 2016, 03:55:02 PM
Does anyone have personal knowledge of, or experience with, any of the three shul options that are walkable from the Stamford Crowne Plaza?
http://congregationagudathsholom.org/
http://yistamford.shulcloud.com/
http://www.chabadstamford.org/

Feel free to PM me if you prefer.  We identify as modern orthodox but are comfortable in Chabad.  Curious to learn about the davening (spirited for flat), Kiddush, and how welcome we would feel as visitors.

Thanks.

I know 4 of these couples at the Chabad shul. Very warm and welcoming: http://www.chabadstamford.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/2998789/jewish/Meet-the-Shluchim.htm
Kiddush looks full, serious, and organized every week, with several sponsors. You can see when the bigger Kiddushes are scheduled: http://www.chabadstamford.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/3002581/jewish/Kiddush-Calendar-2015-16.htm
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: zow on March 14, 2016, 04:06:34 PM
I know 4 of these couples at the Chabad shul. Very warm and welcoming: http://www.chabadstamford.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/2998789/jewish/Meet-the-Shluchim.htm
Kiddush looks full, serious, and organized every week, with several sponsors. You can see when the bigger Kiddushes are scheduled: http://www.chabadstamford.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/3002581/jewish/Kiddush-Calendar-2015-16.htm
Great. Very helpful. We also know one of the shlichot's sister's, so with all that, I think we'll probably make the walk to Chabad. Thank you.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on April 10, 2016, 01:21:49 PM
Looking to do a family getaway this shabbos
Does anyone know of a decent 5+ bedroom airbnb within Tri state area that's walking distance to a shul?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: 123ablack on April 13, 2016, 11:53:31 AM
Anyone staying at the embassy suites in "Piscataway" NJ this Shabbas (April 15-17)? Trying to form a minyen. Thanks
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: 123ablack on April 13, 2016, 03:19:39 PM
Anyone staying at the embassy suites in "Piscataway" NJ this Shabbas (April 15-17)? Trying to form a minyen. Thanks

Or Hyatt "House" Morristown. Anyone staying there for this Shabbas?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on April 13, 2016, 03:24:05 PM
Any TR of staying in the Miami Beach four points sheraton for shabbos?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: yakrot on April 13, 2016, 03:33:02 PM
Yes I think it's been mentioned in a couple Mia trip reports. Anything specific you are trying to find out?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on April 14, 2016, 12:03:35 AM
Yes I think it's been mentioned in a couple Mia trip reports. Anything specific you are trying to find out?
I just want to know all that i have to shabbos-wise. Keys, hot plate, etc...
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: yakrot on April 14, 2016, 12:20:39 AM
I just want to know all that i have to shabbos-wise. Keys, hot plate, etc...
They give a key.
 usually will accommodate you with a low floor.
have not heard of any issues with a hot plate.
 great location for anything you may want to do.
someone mentioned that the room was not well situated for a shabbos meal, but I'm assuming this is a problem in most hotel rooms that is not a suite.
 you can just eat in the lobby or by the pool
(All this info is not mine but being quoted from diff ppl on the south Florida thread)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on April 14, 2016, 12:25:36 AM
They give a key.
 usually will accommodate you with a low floor.
have not heard of any issues with a hot plate.
 great location for anything you may want to do.
someone mentioned that the room was not well situated for a shabbos meal, but I'm assuming this is a problem in most hotel rooms that is not a suite.
 you can just eat in the lobby or by the pool
(All this info is not mine but being quoted from diff ppl on the south Florida thread)
Thanks. I'm booked in the deluxe king with starpoints and i hope to upgrade to the junior suite..I'm spg gold..
Is there any number i can call for the chabad 41st street? Do i have to make a reservation for shabbos lunch?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: ayman on April 14, 2016, 12:37:26 AM
Or Hyatt "House" Morristown. Anyone staying there for this Shabbas?
Stayed there for a shabbos. Exceedingly accommodating. And every room is a suite, full kitchen.

We got the conference room suite. Full size dining table in the room.

Was a great shabbos, and would consider going again.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: yakrot on April 14, 2016, 12:41:34 AM
Thanks. I'm booked in the deluxe king with starpoints and i hope to upgrade to the junior suite..I'm spg gold..
Is there any number i can call for the chabad 41st street? Do i have to make a reservation for shabbos lunch?
I'm not sure about reservations I think that they are not necessary but you should call to make sure (it's called the Jewish learning center, that should bring it up on google)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on April 14, 2016, 12:44:00 PM
Stayed there for a shabbos. Exceedingly accommodating. And every room is a suite, full kitchen.

We got the conference room suite. Full size dining table in the room.

Was a great shabbos, and would consider going again.
Is there any shuls walking distance from the Hyatt house?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on April 14, 2016, 01:18:59 PM
Is there any shuls walking distance from the Hyatt house?
there are shuls walking distance to the regular hyatt morristown
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Cw3323 on April 14, 2016, 01:31:40 PM
yes about 5-8 minutes
and the rabbinical college is about 25 minute walk
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: AJK on April 14, 2016, 02:04:09 PM
Stayed there for a shabbos. Exceedingly accommodating. And every room is a suite, full kitchen.

We got the conference room suite. Full size dining table in the room.

Was a great shabbos, and would consider going again.

+1
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: EJB on April 14, 2016, 02:11:14 PM
Stayed there for a shabbos. Exceedingly accommodating. And every room is a suite, full kitchen.

We got the conference room suite. Full size dining table in the room.

Was a great shabbos, and would consider going again.

+1. Maybe we should do a DO there, as it seems like a few people have stayed there before. They upgraded me to a 2BR suite, but I didn't have a dining table in my room. They even have a basketball court :)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on April 14, 2016, 06:46:44 PM
yes about 5-8 minutes
and the rabbinical college is about 25 minute walk
Do u have a name and address for shul?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: emak on April 14, 2016, 07:25:06 PM
Anyone did Sheraton Eatontown recently?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Einstein on April 16, 2016, 10:36:24 PM
+1. Maybe we should do a DO there, as it seems like a few people have stayed there before. They upgraded me to a 2BR suite, but I didn't have a dining table in my room. They even have a basketball court :)
I like that Idea....post in

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=6649.0
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: EJB on April 17, 2016, 05:41:30 PM
I like that Idea....post in

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=6649.0
Nah, that's for singles
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: abc123 on May 25, 2016, 12:12:24 PM
Anyone stay at Sheraton Parsippany for shabbos? Please share thoughts/review.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: mochjas on May 25, 2016, 12:22:14 PM
Anyone stay at Sheraton Parsippany for shabbos? Please share thoughts/review.
they make you sign a paper saying you won't heat up food in the room and won't leave the door open when you are not in the room. But they can give you a hard key. And it's only 5 floors so no problem with walking up stairs.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: CS1 on May 25, 2016, 03:41:47 PM
they make you sign a paper saying you won't heat up food in the room and won't leave the door open when you are not in the room. But they can give you a hard key. And it's only 5 floors so no problem with walking up stairs.

do they offer sales of hot, Kosher food there?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: mochjas on May 25, 2016, 03:46:29 PM
do they offer sales of hot, Kosher food there?
no they do not
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: MarkS on May 25, 2016, 03:50:39 PM
do they offer sales of hot, Kosher food there?
No.

AHA discrimination!!! The reality is they got sick of people bringing all their heating apparatus and food/mess there. It's not because they want to sell you food.

I went to a hotel that insisted no outside food in the conference room (because they want to sell you food). Once we explained kosher and that we're not buying from them either way they were fine with outside food in the conference room. Might I suggest that a Hyatt House, Extended Stay, Candlewood suites, Mainstay Suites etc would be better suited for a shabbos as they have a bedroom, living room and kitchen and the kitchen has a stove and countertops and often a dining table. 
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: mochjas on May 25, 2016, 03:55:45 PM
No.

AHA discrimination!!! The reality is they got sick of people bringing all their heating apparatus and food/mess there. It's not because they want to sell you food.
I went to a hotel that insisted no outside food in the conference room (because they want to sell you food). Once we explained kosher and that we're not buying from them either way they were fine with outside food in the conference room. Might I suggest that a Hyatt House, Extended Stay, Candlewood suites, Mainstay Suites etc would be better suited for a shabbos as they have a bedroom, living room and kitchen and the kitchen has a stove and countertops and often a dining table.
yes they got sick of tons of Jews coming. So they only make Jews sign the paper. They basically got sick of them flocking the hotel!

All they need to do to get rid of the Jews is raise the prices if that's what they really want to do.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: MarkS on May 25, 2016, 03:58:50 PM
yes they got sick of tons of Jews coming. So they only make Jews sign the paper. They basically got sick of them flocking the hotel!

All they need to do to get rid of the Jews is raise the prices if that's what they really want to do.
Nothing to do with sick of Jews. Sick of the liberties that we often take and the things we do above and beyond normal use of a hotel room. If we have a minyan and seuda in the room and hotplates/crockpots/tons of kids/lots of trash etc then I understand why they would rather a single businessman who sleeps in his bed and leaves.

All those things are legal and we're allowed to do them but they are allowed to make rules to limit it. There are hotels that don't allow children...Nothing to do with jews they just want a certain ambiance.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: mochjas on May 25, 2016, 04:07:55 PM
Nothing to do with sick of Jews. Sick of the liberties that we often take and the things we do above and beyond normal use of a hotel room. If we have a minyan and seuda in the room and hotplates/crockpots/tons of kids/lots of trash etc then I understand why they would rather a single businessman who sleeps in his bed and leaves.

All those things are legal and we're allowed to do them but they are allowed to make rules to limit it. There are hotels that don't allow children...Nothing to do with jews they just want a certain ambiance.
yes well it is a little discriminatory to make only Jews sign a paper when they come in to the hotel.

Also there is no ambiance in that hotel.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on May 25, 2016, 10:41:11 PM
There's a Hyatt House next door to the Sheraton which is considerably more shabbos friendly in terms rooms (suites with kitchens) though I think I had an issue exiting the hotel. Iinm the side doors are electromagnetic. You could always use the main door at the same time as someone else.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: travel-ing on May 26, 2016, 01:00:44 PM
any issues at ritzaliya for a shabbos stay?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: A3 on May 26, 2016, 01:33:31 PM
There's a Hyatt House next door to the Sheraton which is considerably more shabbos friendly in terms rooms (suites with kitchens) though I think I had an issue exiting the hotel. Iinm the side doors are electromagnetic. You could always use the main door at the same time as someone else.

+1. Great option
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on June 14, 2016, 10:47:07 PM
Anybody ever had this issue that the staircases had light sensors? What did you do about it?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on June 14, 2016, 10:54:42 PM
Anybody ever had this issue that the staircases had light sensors? What did you do about it?
yes. find a different staircase.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on June 14, 2016, 11:56:39 PM
yes. find a different staircase.
all staircases have light sensors.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: sams on June 15, 2016, 01:07:46 AM
all staircases have light sensors.
I've been plenty that don't have light sensors.where you looking to stay?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on June 15, 2016, 11:02:45 AM
all staircases have light sensors.
so what do you do?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on June 15, 2016, 11:34:11 AM
so what do you do?
I didn't check the staircases before Shabbos (I was at many hotels on Shabbos never had a problem with staircases never came across sensors) so I had no choice but to go with the elevator with someone else pushing the buttons.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: sams on June 15, 2016, 11:38:34 AM
I didn't check the staircases before Shabbos (I was at many hotels on Shabbos never had a problem with staircases never came across sensors) so I had no choice but to go with the elevator with someone else pushing the buttons.
You couldn't stay in room??
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on June 15, 2016, 12:23:45 PM
You couldn't stay in room??
it's like a Shabbos elevator if it goes down anyways.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: CS1 on June 15, 2016, 01:04:15 PM
all staircases have light sensors.

in Singapore they have 20 flights of steps outside the hotel as their fire escape. no sensors.   ;)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: shmoe joe on June 15, 2016, 01:42:31 PM
it's like a Shabbos elevator if it goes down anyways.
that's not the only thing regular elevators are different then shabbos elevators
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: sams on June 15, 2016, 01:44:49 PM
Any hotel next to shuls in cape cod? Or what's best option in Newport?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: thaber on June 21, 2016, 10:00:33 AM
I didn't check the staircases before Shabbos (I was at many hotels on Shabbos never had a problem with staircases never came across sensors) so I had no choice but to go with the elevator with someone else pushing the buttons.
Case can be made that light sensors are better. 
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: ttn on June 21, 2016, 12:08:31 PM
Did anyone ever stay in sheraton of Stamford for shabbos?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: srap on June 22, 2016, 11:56:46 PM
Did anyone ever stay in sheraton of Stamford for shabbos?
Many here have.  They often have minyanim that you can join.
It is written up here in a few places.  There are also proper shuls in longish walking distance.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on June 23, 2016, 07:39:51 PM
Many here have.  They often have minyanim that you can join.
It is written up here in a few places.  There are also proper shuls in longish walking distance.
the yeshiva is pretty close
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on June 26, 2016, 12:24:19 AM
Did anybody stay at Sheraton Mahwah Hotel for Shabbos? is it Shabbos friendly? Nice property?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: thaber on June 26, 2016, 01:17:09 AM
the yeshiva is pretty close
didn't the yeshiva move to Monsey?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on June 26, 2016, 06:19:22 AM
didn't the yeshiva move to Monsey?
next year
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: joeb1 on June 26, 2016, 08:52:15 AM
Did anybody stay at Sheraton Mahwah Hotel for Shabbos? is it Shabbos friendly? Nice property?

Long trek up the stairs
No Shuls in sight
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Cw3323 on July 12, 2016, 12:39:19 PM
is W Hoboken shabbos friendly
it looks like walking distance to chabad 
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Srsy on July 13, 2016, 12:18:09 AM
Any ideas for a clean hotel in or near the Catskills?  A shul within walking distance is a must.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on July 13, 2016, 11:57:28 AM
There are some in tannersville, ny
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: chayal101 on July 13, 2016, 01:48:18 PM
Any Minyan at a hotel in Mahwah this Shabbos?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on July 13, 2016, 02:11:51 PM
is there a shul within walking distance to the Hyatt House Morristown?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: MarkS on July 13, 2016, 02:26:25 PM
is there a shul within walking distance to the Hyatt House Morristown?
No, only to the regular Hyatt in Morristown
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Srsy on July 14, 2016, 02:30:52 AM
Any minyan in Woodcliff Lake Hilton this Shabbos?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: 3yummyboys on July 18, 2016, 11:52:46 AM
Anyone have experience at Hyatt regency Long Island? Doors, locks etc.
Googled Shula nearby and came up with nada, anyone know?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: puppydogs on August 16, 2016, 10:20:29 PM
No, only to the regular Hyatt in Morristown

Heard there is a minyan at the Hyatt House in Morristown this Shabbos. Could someone confirm if this is true?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: cf on August 25, 2016, 01:53:22 PM
Which Hyatt is recommended for shabbos? I remember reading a while ago, that the hyatt in Morristown is recommended. Is it the Hyatt regency or Hyatt house?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: cf on August 25, 2016, 01:59:52 PM
There are some in tannersville, ny
Anything walking distance to minyan?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on August 25, 2016, 02:42:24 PM
Which Hyatt is recommended for shabbos? I remember reading a while ago, that the hyatt in Morristown is recommended. Is it the Hyatt regency or Hyatt house?
Hyatt regency walking distance to shul.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: cf on August 25, 2016, 02:49:52 PM
Hyatt regency walking distance to shul.
Thanks
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: mochjas on August 25, 2016, 02:50:18 PM
Thanks
but no outdoor pool
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: ahecht37 on August 26, 2016, 02:04:27 PM
Has anyone ever stayed at the W on Lexington ave for Shabbos?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on November 24, 2016, 10:05:12 PM
anyone know of a hyatt house in tristate area within walking distance to shul?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: HBS on January 15, 2017, 01:26:46 PM
not sure if this is the right thread, but trying to find out if there are any professional getaways the next few weeks. Prefer this Shabbos, Shemos.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Squasher on January 15, 2017, 01:38:53 PM
http://poconoshabbat.com
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Alexsei on January 15, 2017, 05:17:11 PM
Try noamhashabbos@gmail.com
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: happyyyr on February 01, 2017, 01:18:29 PM

Looking to do a family getaway this shabbos
Does anyone know of a decent 4+ bedroom airbnb within 2 hour drive of Lakewood that's walking distance to a shul?
Thank you
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on February 01, 2017, 04:37:24 PM
Looking to do a family getaway this shabbos
Does anyone know of a decent 4+ bedroom airbnb within 2 hour drive of Lakewood that's walking distance to a shul?
Thank you
theres a Chabad in ventnor city nj who rents his house and many other rentals in area as well
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: AROCKS1 on February 01, 2017, 05:20:06 PM
I will be spending my first shabbos in a hotel with no manual key. (I know - n00b).Can someone please clarify what the goal of the card over door stopper is? Is it to keep the room open completely throughout shabbos so that I don't need to ask a goy every time I wanna go in?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: yoruel on February 01, 2017, 05:46:14 PM
I will be spending my first shabbos in a hotel with no manual key. (I know - n00b).Can someone please clarify what the goal of the card over door stopper is? Is it to keep the room open completely throughout shabbos so that I don't need to ask a goy every time I wanna go in?
Yes,
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on February 01, 2017, 06:21:05 PM
I will be spending my first shabbos in a hotel with no manual key. (I know - n00b).Can someone please clarify what the goal of the card over door stopper is? Is it to keep the room open completely throughout shabbos so that I don't need to ask a goy every time I wanna go in?
correct. Many hold that asking a goy is only muttar bemakom mitzvah. It would be classified as a shvus dshvus
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: AROCKS1 on February 01, 2017, 07:22:21 PM
correct. Many hold that asking a goy is only muttar bemakom mitzvah. It would be classified as a shvus dshvus
There is also bimakom tzar, and bimakom tzorech but it would be a stretch to apply the Mishnah Brurahs definition of these categories here. I've heard of the potential ability to rely on amira l'amira (asking the front desk to have the door opened) but I wouldn't rely on this lichatchila
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: CS1 on February 01, 2017, 07:27:55 PM
There is also bimakom tzar, and bimakom tzorech but it would be a stretch to apply the Mishnah Brurahs definition of these categories here. I've heard of the potential ability to rely on amira l'amira (asking the front desk to have the door opened) but I wouldn't rely on this lichatchila
true.

And there was also a way that someone made a video showing a string that opens it from the inside handle (and you pull the string from the outside).

Not sure how smart it is to elaborate publicly,  8) however it's slightly more secure than the card and tape trick (also used on cruise ships).
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on February 01, 2017, 09:52:12 PM
true.

And there was also a way that someone made a video showing a string that opens it from the inside handle (and you pull the string from the outside).

Not sure how smart it is to elaborate publicly,  8) however it's slightly more secure than the card and tape trick (also used on cruise ships).
it's all in the wiki
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: srap on February 01, 2017, 10:06:59 PM
... a string that opens it from the inside handle (and you pull the string from the outside).

Not sure how smart it is to elaborate publicly,  8) however it's slightly more secure than the card and tape trick (also used on cruise ships).
First time I did that the twine broke!  I double it now.  My rav told me not to reverse the lock plate.  That is the most 'secure' way.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: AROCKS1 on February 01, 2017, 10:09:55 PM
First time I did that the twine broke!  I double it now.  My rav told me not to reverse the lock plate.  That is the most 'secure' way.
What do you mean by "not reverse the lock plate"?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: dwkl on May 08, 2017, 12:36:47 PM
anyone aware of a kosher hotel with food thats open this weekend for a couple getaway ? preferably not in willaimsburg as not much scenery  or walk on a long shabbos afternoon
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: zow on May 08, 2017, 03:29:45 PM
anyone aware of a kosher hotel with food thats open this weekend for a couple getaway ? preferably not in willaimsburg as not much scenery  or walk on a long shabbos afternoon

Arlington Hotel in New Hampshire.
I hear it's nice but expensive.  http://arlingtonhotelnh.com/
I also hear that rates are better at last minute.

Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: zow on May 08, 2017, 03:41:19 PM
Updated the wiki packing list with:

timers
3prong-to-2prong plug adapters (for timers)

I was surprised this wasn't already there.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: srap on May 08, 2017, 04:03:39 PM
Updated the wiki packing list with:

timers
3prong-to-2prong plug adapters (for timers)

I was surprised this wasn't already there.
That's a great addition.  I am always tracking down engineering to find one. 
Also, if there is room in a car...an extension cord.  We often try to move the standing lamp over to a better location, but the cord is not long enough.  This time around I needed a 3:2 prong adapter for the lamp and engineering didn't have one for me.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: helpusout on June 20, 2017, 11:43:39 AM
Any shabbos hotel getaways this weekend in tri state area?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: ushdadude on June 20, 2017, 12:09:22 PM
I would recommend the shabbulb instead of a timer. Much more flexibility
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Rivky on June 21, 2017, 11:40:36 PM
Any shabbos hotel getaways this weekend in tri state area?

Also looking. Let me know if you find something!!
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: curly on June 22, 2017, 11:38:01 AM
Anyone going to Morristown Hyatt his weekend?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Srsy on July 12, 2017, 12:55:58 PM
How is Sheraton Mahwah and Holiday Inn Express in Stamford for Shabbos?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: zagguru on July 12, 2017, 12:57:34 PM
How is Sheraton Mahwah and Holiday Inn Express in Stamford for Shabbos?


+1
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Srsy on July 12, 2017, 02:53:12 PM
Is it true that Holiday Inn Express charges for a shabbos key?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: emak on July 12, 2017, 03:09:25 PM
Is it true that Holiday Inn Express charges for a shabbos key?
The CP does. Just leave the door open a crack and put valuables in the safe.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Mountain Man on July 12, 2017, 05:52:05 PM
Any thoughts on the Beverly Waldorf for Shabbos?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Srsy on July 12, 2017, 09:33:16 PM
The CP does. Just leave the door open a crack and put valuables in the safe.
Not comfortable leaving the door open
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Srsy on July 12, 2017, 09:34:52 PM
Anyone know a hotel that has a minyan this weekend in the tristate area with or without food?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Alexsei on July 12, 2017, 10:08:44 PM
Anyone know a hotel that has a minyan this weekend in the tristate area with or without food?
Crown plaza Stamford CT
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on July 12, 2017, 10:12:25 PM
Crown plaza Stamford CT
they probably have a minute there most weekends of the year. ( Based on past work experience and that of collegues)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Srsy on July 12, 2017, 10:36:09 PM
Crown plaza Stamford CT
They want you to pay $100.00 for a hard key
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: mochjas on July 12, 2017, 10:40:01 PM
They want you to pay $100.00 for a hard key
its probably just a deposit. If you give the key back they will give you the $ back.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: emak on July 12, 2017, 10:51:10 PM
its probably just a deposit. If you give the key back they will give you the $ back.
-1
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Srsy on July 12, 2017, 11:01:58 PM
its probably just a deposit. If you give the key back they will give you the $ back.
They said it's not refundable.  It's the fee to change the lock to Manuel.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: mendyt on July 13, 2017, 09:48:45 PM
Anyone with experience from the past few months with the Hyatt house in Parsippany?
Is it still shabbos freindly? (main concern is about the hotplate etc.)
TIA
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: mochjas on July 13, 2017, 09:55:03 PM
They said it's not refundable.  It's the fee to change the lock to Manuel.
so just leave the door open
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Pesach on July 19, 2017, 03:34:42 AM
Any thoughts on the Beverly Waldorf for Shabbos?
i have the same q is it near a Shul?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: bh on July 19, 2017, 01:03:46 PM
Does any one have experience staying at the Residence Inn West Orange for Shabbos?

TIA
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: stbaum on July 31, 2017, 10:46:13 PM
Anyone have any idea if I might have minyan shabbos nachmi at Hyatt Chesapeake Bay?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Yespi on August 02, 2017, 10:10:06 AM
Can anyone recommend a hotel in the 2-4 hour proximity to NYC for this Shabbos weekend (Aug. 4-6) where I can go with about 10 couples?

I have my own Sefer Torah & Minyan and would prefer a place where I can get a conference room with my own food (without a licensed caterer) or I will take out another suite for the eating and Davening.

Or if anyone knows of a place where there will be another group and I can join them.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: mendyt on August 02, 2017, 11:11:33 AM
Can anyone recommend a hotel in the 2-4 hour proximity to NYC for this Shabbos weekend (Aug. 4-6) where I can go with about 10 couples?

I have my own Sefer Torah & Minyan and would prefer a place where I can get a conference room with my own food (without a licensed caterer) or I will take out another suite for the eating and Davening.

Or if anyone knows of a place where there will be another group and I can join them.

There is an organized ARACHIM group in Crowne Plaza Stmfrd Ct.  you might be able to get rooms and a private ballroom there. PM me for details
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Yespi on August 02, 2017, 11:26:24 AM
There is an organized ARACHIM group in Crowne Plaza Stmfrd Ct.  you might be able to get rooms and a private ballroom there. PM me for details

Thanks. Any other options without such a big crowd?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: chayal101 on August 02, 2017, 11:27:49 AM
Thanks. Any other options without such a big crowd?
Not such a big deal... You'll enjoy it there, it has a beautiful lobby and alot of space for everyone...
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: Srsy on August 02, 2017, 12:23:14 PM
Any minyan this Shabbos in a hotel near Monsey or Mahwah?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: jackofall on August 02, 2017, 12:40:06 PM
Would love to put one together in Home2 in Hasbrouck. Looks like a real nice place.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: jackofall on August 02, 2017, 09:39:19 PM
Would love to put one together in Home2 in Hasbrouck. Looks like a real nice place.
Bump. Anybody.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: mendyt on August 02, 2017, 09:54:17 PM
Bump. Anybody.
Don't think it's  avail at all

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170803/3bd54a268b50a043600bd58d4f5ddb10.jpg)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: jackofall on August 02, 2017, 11:53:50 PM
Don't think it's  avail at all

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170803/3bd54a268b50a043600bd58d4f5ddb10.jpg)
Just checked. Looks available to me.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: tov hashem on August 03, 2017, 12:37:28 AM
Any shul in the area?if not do you have sifer Torah?
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: jackofall on August 03, 2017, 12:43:51 AM
Any shul in the area?if not do you have sifer Torah?
Shul is far from what I can tell. If we have minyan I will work on S"T
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: jackofall on August 03, 2017, 05:58:13 PM
What are practical solution for A/C sensors?
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: thaber on August 03, 2017, 06:31:19 PM
can we stick to the Shabbos in Hotel Master thread? or merge?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=29568.0
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: jackofall on August 09, 2017, 08:22:57 PM
Would love to put one together in Home2 in Hasbrouck. Looks like a real nice place.
Bump. This week anyone? Have a s"t and the conference room on hold.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: as2 on August 09, 2017, 08:46:17 PM
Bump. This week anyone? Have a s"t and the conference room on hold.
Maybe try posting here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=6649.0)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: brodes18 on August 15, 2017, 11:18:18 PM
Does any one have experience staying at the Residence Inn West Orange for Shabbos?

TIA

I stayed there for a Shabbos. Rooms are great with a big kitchen and place to eat. I went with another couple and we all ate together in one of the two bedroom suites.

The shul is a 15 minute walk from the hotel. Using the eruv is a bit challenging since the utility poles to which the eruv is tied to go right up to the sidewalk on the same side of the hotel. For a brief period, you need to squeeze around a utility pole and then stay inside of the utility poles until you reach the first street. There are closer options, but I liked the kitchen in the rooms of the Residence inn.
Title: Re: shabbos issues in hotels and their solutions
Post by: brodes18 on August 15, 2017, 11:19:34 PM
What are practical solution for A/C sensors?

Ask the hotel to disable them. I have never had an issue with the hotel accommodating my request.
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: brodes18 on August 15, 2017, 11:22:46 PM
Can anyone recommend a hotel in the 2-4 hour proximity to NYC for this Shabbos weekend (Aug. 4-6) where I can go with about 10 couples?

I have my own Sefer Torah & Minyan and would prefer a place where I can get a conference room with my own food (without a licensed caterer) or I will take out another suite for the eating and Davening.

Or if anyone knows of a place where there will be another group and I can join them.

Check out this post about a Courtyard in Red Bank, NJ: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7481.msg599714;topicseen#msg599714
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Hjay on August 17, 2017, 05:12:20 AM
I don't know if this has been posted but I recently heard about this & was wondering if anybody uses itÖ If your staying in a hotel with a kid that doesn't walk & you want to eat your meal by somebody out of the hotel you can ask a non Jew to bring the child for you because it's a שבות דשבות במקום צורך מצוה. (I didn't say it has to be where there is no reshus harabim because there is a shita that holds even in reshus harabim can't remember why but I'll find out). The nitty gritty details such as if there is meals being offered in the hotel is that צורךÖ I'm not getting involved in.

If I would've known this a few weeks ago I might've planned my summer differently.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: moko on August 17, 2017, 07:25:41 AM
I don't know if this has been posted but I recently heard about this & was wondering if anybody uses itÖ If your staying in a hotel with a kid that doesn't walk & you want to eat your meal by somebody out of the hotel you can ask a non Jew to bring the child for you because it's a שבות דשבות במקום צורך מצוה. (I didn't say it has to be where there is no reshus harabim because there is a shita that holds even in reshus harabim can't remember why but I'll find out). The nitty gritty details such as if there is meals being offered in the hotel is that צורךÖ I'm not getting involved in.

If I would've known this a few weeks ago I might've planned my summer differently.
see O"C siman 325. The rema discuss bringing beer on Friday night in a R"H. The heter is since a Jew could have done it bheter (mechitzos bnei Adam). Also, unless the child is an infant, it is only a derabanan to carry the child. Please consult you lor before deciding what is a shvus dshvus bmakom mitzvah
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Hjay on August 17, 2017, 10:19:00 AM
see O"C siman 325. The rema discuss bringing beer on Friday night in a R"H. The heter is since a Jew could have done it bheter (mechitzos bnei Adam). Also, unless the child is an infant, it is only a derabanan to carry the child. Please consult you lor before deciding what is a shvus dshvus bmakom mitzvah

I was even talking about a baby that doesn't walk. I asked my lor about what I wanted to do & he said it's fine, everybody should def ask their own, just throwing it out there for others to know about.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: moko on August 17, 2017, 11:14:25 AM
I was even talking about a baby that doesn't walk. I asked my lor about what I wanted to do & he said it's fine, everybody should def ask their own, just throwing it out there for others to know about.
I explained how it could be even with a baby in a R"H.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: aygart on August 17, 2017, 11:50:57 PM
The big question is whether the goy needs to carry the child or can push in a stroller.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: michael on August 20, 2017, 11:33:12 AM
Any idea for this Shabbos? Looking for a place with a minyan.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: yoohoo on August 20, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
regarding Dans AC override in the Wiki: If balcony is left open a drop will that help not triggering the sensor to display that its open?
       
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on November 02, 2017, 02:58:42 PM
Anyone ever try to use an american 220v plug-in timer, with adapters, in Europe or Israel?

Or, does anyone know where I can buy an European one in Brooklyn?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: TorontoGuy on January 25, 2018, 12:09:53 AM
Anyone going to/ or knows someone that will be going to the Sheraton Eatontown for this Shabbos? (Beshalach 01/27) Is this the right thread to post on?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: bluesky on April 12, 2018, 07:37:14 PM
Anyone looking to go to Crowne Plaza Stamford, CT this shabbos? Minyanim around,  kosher restaurant. PM me for details.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on April 12, 2018, 07:46:50 PM
regarding Dans AC override in the Wiki: If balcony is left open a drop will that help not triggering the sensor to display that its open?
       

Wouldn't that also keep the system off the entire time?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: hide4 on April 12, 2018, 07:52:28 PM
Wouldn't that also keep the system off the entire time?
If you don't override the system then it will stay off. But if you override the system it stays on.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: cozmohoot on April 12, 2018, 09:33:48 PM
Anyone looking to go to Crowne Plaza Stamford, CT this shabbos? Minyanim around,  kosher restaurant. PM me for details.
Meisners just finished there....
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: shaulyaakov on April 20, 2018, 12:55:23 PM
Is there a Wiki where people can post notes about specific issues/solutions based on hotels they've stayed at on shabbos? Looking to find out if anyone has experience in the Waldorf Amsterdam (already asked on the Amsterdam MT).
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on April 20, 2018, 03:35:49 PM
Is there a Wiki where people can post notes about specific issues/solutions based on hotels they've stayed at on shabbos? Looking to find out if anyone has experience in the Waldorf Amsterdam (already asked on the Amsterdam MT).

here is a YouTube video showing a solution for opening the electronic-card-lock doors on Shabbos: http://bit.ly/ShabbatInHotelsElectronicDoorSolution
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: emak on April 20, 2018, 04:35:39 PM
Is there a Wiki where people can post notes about specific issues/solutions based on hotels they've stayed at on shabbos? Looking to find out if anyone has experience in the Waldorf Amsterdam (already asked on the Amsterdam MT).
AYLOR about making an Eruv Chatzeros, which should be done in order to carry inside the hotel
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: moko on April 20, 2018, 05:09:30 PM
AYLOR about making an Eruv Chatzeros, which should be done in order to carry inside the hotel
not if your the only Jewish party at the hotel...
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on April 20, 2018, 05:11:35 PM
not if your the only Jewish party at the hotel...

we made an eruv chatzeros with the captain on the cruise ship (about 90 jewish families out of over 900 others...)

Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on April 21, 2018, 11:14:16 PM
we made an eruv chatzeros with the captain on the cruise ship (about 90 jewish families out of over 900 others...)
Not a Rabbi however, I don't believe either hotels or cruise ships require this.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: yitzgar on April 21, 2018, 11:18:37 PM
Not a Rabbi however, I don't believe either hotels or cruise ships require this.
I know R' Moshe holds a hotel doesn't need an eiruv. I would imagine cruise ships are the same.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on April 22, 2018, 01:34:55 PM
Not a Rabbi however, I don't believe either hotels or cruise ships require this.

the Rabbi did it with the captain. One Italian captain kept his wad of bills in a special place. He had a stack of: dollars, Shekalim, and liras (for the 25 hr "rental" for the eruv); he asked the Rabbi to write a blessing on the $5 bill.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: shaulyaakov on April 23, 2018, 09:59:52 AM
AYLOR about making an Eruv Chatzeros, which should be done in order to carry inside the hotel

The Waldorf is within the Amsterdam Eruv so doesn't need a separate one.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on May 25, 2018, 05:26:48 PM
Is it permissible to lock the deadbolt on shabbos? when the deadbolt is locked and tapping the card the light will show red instead of green, is locking the deadbolt itself a issue?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: moko on May 25, 2018, 05:29:21 PM
Is it permissible to lock the deadbolt on shabbos? when the deadbolt is locked and tapping the card the light will show red instead of green, is locking the deadbolt itself a issue?
psik reisha dlo neicha lei....if no other options it's mutar ltzorach
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Mordeyj on May 27, 2018, 07:28:54 AM
What are nice options for a week in Manhattan including a shabbos stay? NYC edition a good option? Thank you.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: jackofall on June 20, 2018, 01:36:41 PM
Any minyan in the tri-state area this week?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on June 20, 2018, 01:43:38 PM
What are nice options for a week in Manhattan including a shabbos stay? NYC edition a good option? Thank you.
Garden suites by affinia. has small kitchen. can daven in park east. check to see if chazan helfgot will be there!
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: jackofall on June 20, 2018, 01:48:40 PM
Garden suites by affinia. has small kitchen. can daven in park east. check to see if chazan helfgot will be there!
Shabbos friendly?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on June 20, 2018, 01:50:12 PM
Shabbos friendly?
yes
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on June 20, 2018, 01:53:41 PM
What are nice options for a week in Manhattan including a shabbos stay? NYC edition a good option? Thank you.
I stayed in the sheraton times square was upgraded to a suite on the 5th floor as a plat and it was very walkable to shuls on 63rd

Was able to take the stairs and the front doors are non-electronic (this was 2 years ago)

But not luxurious by any means
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Rivky on June 28, 2018, 10:59:39 AM
Anyone know any Shabbos hotel programs for Labor Day weekend? Thanks!
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Srsy on July 12, 2018, 09:16:39 AM
Which Hyatt House is better to stay for Shabbos? Hyatt House Parsippany-East or Hyatt House Parsippany/ Whippany?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on July 12, 2018, 09:50:38 AM
Which Hyatt House is better to stay for Shabbos? Hyatt House Parsippany-East or Hyatt House Parsippany/ Whippany?
I would say Parsipanny east for  2 reasons
A. Its across the sheraton and you can find a minyan very often, and its walking distance to chabad
B. There is a small lake/pond behind the Sheraton where you can walk around and enjoy a bit some outdoors too
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Srsy on July 12, 2018, 10:35:42 AM
I would say Parsipanny east for  2 reasons
A. Its across the sheraton and you can find a minyan very often, and its walking distance to chabad
B. There is a small lake/pond behind the Sheraton where you can walk around and enjoy a bit some outdoors too

Thank you! I donít mind trying to put together my own minyan for Shabbos Nachamu.  I was wondering which one is nicer and more accomodating on Shabbos.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on July 12, 2018, 10:40:23 AM
Thank you! I donít mind trying to put together my own minyan for Shabbos Nachamu.  I was wondering which one is nicer and more accomodating on Shabbos.
I had a good experience in both of them
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Srsy on July 16, 2018, 11:55:43 AM
Anyone ever spend Shabbos in Hyatt Regency in Greenwich, CT?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on July 16, 2018, 12:41:29 PM
are any hyatt houses with the double suites in tristate region within walking distance of minyan?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on July 17, 2018, 08:13:54 PM
Anyone want to put together a minyan Shabbos Nachamu in the Hyatt Regency in Greenwich? I can bring a Sefer Torah.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: jackofall on July 17, 2018, 09:19:45 PM
Anyone want to put together a minyan Shabbos Nachamu in the Hyatt Regency in Greenwich? I can bring a Sefer Torah.
I might be. Is it Shabbos friendly? Can you get conference rooms?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on July 17, 2018, 09:48:09 PM
I might be. Is it Shabbos friendly? Can you get conference rooms?
I was never there.  Hotel looks nice. 
I am also open to other options.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on July 18, 2018, 09:09:54 AM
I might be. Is it Shabbos friendly? Can you get conference rooms?
They e-mailed me that they have a conference room to rent.  They donít allow outside food and beverages in room.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: BP16 on July 19, 2018, 01:00:54 PM
They e-mailed me that they have a conference room to rent.  They donít allow outside food and beverages in room.
Then what will you do about Kosher food?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: jackofall on July 19, 2018, 01:03:09 PM
Then what will you do about Kosher food?
Any better options out there?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: moko on July 19, 2018, 01:09:30 PM
They e-mailed me that they have a conference room to rent.  They donít allow outside food and beverages in room.
most hotels have that policy but will issue an F&B waiver for events such as kosher. I've requested this several times at different hotels. (They allow kosher caterers at that hotel)
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on July 19, 2018, 01:09:46 PM
Then what will you do about Kosher food?
you can eat in your room. Or in the lobby or by the pool.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on July 19, 2018, 01:12:06 PM
Then what will you do about Kosher food?
They will only give the room for davening.  They want $250.00 to rent conference room Friday night and $600.00 for Shabbos plus 23% Service Charge and 6.35% CT Tax.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on July 19, 2018, 01:14:10 PM
We can also try to find hotel more accommodating.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on July 19, 2018, 02:06:10 PM
most hotels have that policy but will issue an F&B waiver for events such as kosher. I've requested this several times at different hotels. (They allow kosher caterers at that hotel)
Just got reply.  We do not allow outside home made food to be brought into the hotel as it is a liability.  It either needs to be an insured Kosher caterer providing the food, or our hotel providing the food.  They also want labor charges per meal.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on July 19, 2018, 02:16:09 PM
Just use the room for prayers. Everyone can bring their own food and find a place to eat
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Shmuel4 on July 23, 2018, 09:24:10 PM
Anyone come up with a place? My family would totally be in (and we'll bring wine for everyone :))
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Shmuel4 on July 23, 2018, 09:26:03 PM
Hyatt Regency Long Island?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on July 23, 2018, 10:39:30 PM
Hyatt Regency Long Island?
We were trying to make a minyan in Hyatt Regency Greenwich but did not get enough replies.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Shmuel4 on July 23, 2018, 10:42:16 PM
It's not too late!!
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on July 23, 2018, 10:51:05 PM
It's not too late!!
So who is really interested?  I have two men.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: jackofall on July 23, 2018, 10:58:50 PM
So who is really interested?  I have two men.
Problem is they donít allow outside food.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on July 23, 2018, 11:15:11 PM
Problem is they donít allow outside food.
Any other ideas?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on July 23, 2018, 11:36:45 PM
Any other ideas?
Have it catered?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on July 23, 2018, 11:44:14 PM
Have it catered?
They want 65 pp for dinner without food
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on July 24, 2018, 06:57:46 AM
They want 65 pp for dinner without food
so eat in your room. I don't get the big deal
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on July 24, 2018, 07:54:37 AM
so eat in your room. I don't get the big deal
I donít see the big deal either.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Shmuel4 on July 24, 2018, 07:54:01 PM
Are we getting a minyan? Food everyone is on their own...
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Shmuel4 on July 25, 2018, 10:08:36 AM
Any hotels having a minyan this week within 2 hours of NYC?  Not looking for a program but just a minyan...

Thank you
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Srsy on July 25, 2018, 11:26:46 AM
Any hotels having a minyan this week within 2 hours of NYC?  Not looking for a program but just a minyan...

Thank you
There has to be a minyan in one of the hotels somewhere.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on July 25, 2018, 11:42:45 AM
There has to be a minyan in one of the hotels somewhere.
check any circular for the program and get hotel nearby. like stamford fairfield....
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Srsy on July 25, 2018, 11:57:55 AM
check any circular for the program and get hotel nearby. like stamford fairfield....
Not looking to crash a paid program
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: ahron15 on July 25, 2018, 04:06:03 PM
There has to be a minyan in one of the hotels somewhere.
I was in the Sheraton parsippany two years ago shabos nachmu and there was a couple minyanim. there also is a hyatt house next door
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Shmuel4 on July 25, 2018, 09:40:37 PM
I was in the Sheraton parsippany two years ago shabos nachmu and there was a couple minyanim. there also is a hyatt house next door
Thanks. Was it a program or just groups who planned minyanim?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: ahron15 on July 25, 2018, 11:30:47 PM
Thanks. Was it a program or just groups who planned minyanim?
groups that planned minyanim
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on July 25, 2018, 11:37:26 PM
groups that planned minyanim
How would you know if there is a minyan this year?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: LetsGo on July 26, 2018, 12:17:59 AM
How would you know if there is a minyan this year?

http://shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com/ 
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Srsy on July 26, 2018, 07:57:27 AM
http://shabbosgetaways.blogspot.com/
This is for Embassy Suites Parsippany and not the Sheraton Parsippany
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on July 26, 2018, 10:27:04 AM
How would you know if there is a minyan this year?
Stop worrying
You can very often find a minyan in the sheraton and you can always walk to the local shul.
https://goo.gl/maps/t9pGjCA7sjN2
https://www.parsippanyshul.org/
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: yelped on July 26, 2018, 01:11:10 PM
Any ideas for an apartment building with motion sensors that turn on the lights in the hallway? It only goes on by night. I tried testing it to see if I can avoid it turning on, so far I haven't been able to trick it.

I tried speaking to the owner of the vacation apartment I am renting and he doesn't know how to turn it off, and is not willing to regardless...

The heter of the Shevet HaLevi doesn't seem to apply here, since I have Hana'oh since the hallway is dark... Unless if I daven early Friday night, and make it back before it's really dark?

ETA: Just tested it. Turned on even though it is still very light outside.

ETA2: It seems that everyone davens very early here, so it's not dark when we return from shul, so the heter still applies.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on July 26, 2018, 02:58:36 PM
Any ideas for an apartment building with motion sensors that turn on the lights in the hallway? It only goes on by night. I tried testing it to see if I can avoid it turning on, so far I haven't been able to trick it.

I tried speaking to the owner of the vacation apartment I am renting and he doesn't know how to turn it off, and is not willing to regardless...

The heter of the Shevet HaLevi doesn't seem to apply here, since I have Hana'oh since the hallway is dark... Unless if I daven early Friday night, and make it back before it's really dark?

ETA: Just tested it. Turned on even though it is still very light outside.

ETA2: It seems that everyone davens very early here, so it's not dark when we return from shul, so the heter still applies.
I remember hearing a shiur from R' Veiner from Monsey where he says to walk really slow as if the light isn't on so even if it does turn on it's lo nicha lei. i could be totally wrong though
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 26, 2018, 06:01:32 PM
I remember hearing a shiur from R' Veiner from Monsey where he says to walk really slow as if the light isn't on so even if it does turn on it's lo nicha lei. i could be totally wrong though

Seems a tad odd
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: jackofall on July 26, 2018, 09:21:17 PM
Any ideas for an apartment building with motion sensors that turn on the lights in the hallway? It only goes on by night. I tried testing it to see if I can avoid it turning on, so far I haven't been able to trick it.

I tried speaking to the owner of the vacation apartment I am renting and he doesn't know how to turn it off, and is not willing to regardless...

The heter of the Shevet HaLevi doesn't seem to apply here, since I have Hana'oh since the hallway is dark... Unless if I daven early Friday night, and make it back before it's really dark?

ETA: Just tested it. Turned on even though it is still very light outside.

ETA2: It seems that everyone davens very early here, so it's not dark when we return from shul, so the heter still applies.
Do you see the sensor? Put a piece of duck tape on it.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Pesach on July 26, 2018, 09:53:24 PM
did anyone stay at the intercontinental century city over shabbos? and where there any issues ?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: chayal101 on July 26, 2018, 10:01:13 PM
Did anybody ever stay at... : HOME for Shabbos Nachamu?? Were there any issues?? Cuz that's what we're doing!! And I'm sooooooo nervous!!... Any tips or recommendations?? I have so many Sheilos for my Rav... For Example, can I sing on the street? Cuz like nobody is gonna be home in the city except for my husband and kids so.....
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on July 26, 2018, 10:04:08 PM
Did anybody ever stay at... : HOME for Shabbos Nachamu?? Were there any issues?? Cuz that's what we're doing!! And I'm sooooooo nervous!!... Any tips or recommendations?? I have so many Sheilos for my Rav... For Example, can I sing on the street? Cuz like nobody is gonna be home in the city except for my husband and kids so.....
did you ask your Rav which Tzedaka to donate the points that you won't be using by staying home??
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: chayal101 on July 26, 2018, 10:26:18 PM
did you ask your Rav which Tzedaka to donate the points that you won't be using by staying home??
Definitely! That was my first question!! And I was quite surprised when he, in return, asked me for my points since his Rebitzin is dying to go away for Shabbos!!
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Yammer on July 26, 2018, 10:36:15 PM
Did anybody ever stay at... : HOME for Shabbos Nachamu?? Were there any issues?? Cuz that's what we're doing!! And I'm sooooooo nervous!!... Any tips or recommendations?? I have so many Sheilos for my Rav... For Example, can I sing on the street? Cuz like nobody is gonna be home in the city except for my husband and kids so.....
Like
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Ploni3 on July 31, 2018, 10:56:07 AM
Any ideas for an apartment building with motion sensors that turn on the lights in the hallway? It only goes on by night. I tried testing it to see if I can avoid it turning on, so far I haven't been able to trick it.

I tried speaking to the owner of the vacation apartment I am renting and he doesn't know how to turn it off, and is not willing to regardless...

The heter of the Shevet HaLevi doesn't seem to apply here, since I have Hana'oh since the hallway is dark... Unless if I daven early Friday night, and make it back before it's really dark?

ETA: Just tested it. Turned on even though it is still very light outside.

ETA2: It seems that everyone davens very early here, so it's not dark when we return from shul, so the heter still applies.


I entirely sympathize with you.  I had exact experience years ago and LOR's suggestion was to find someone who didn't have to keep Shabbos to lead us in and out, having them trigger all the lights.  That didn't work out as the dynamics would have involved trusting such person with a key without permission of the airbnb host, which I didn't feel comfortable doing. In the end we experienced a Shabbos locked in together. Wonderful family bonding experience.
I'm not saying that you couldn't find an opinion that would be more lenient - but this was what I was told.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: yelped on July 31, 2018, 04:12:44 PM

I entirely sympathize with you.  I had exact experience years ago and LOR's suggestion was to find someone who didn't have to keep Shabbos to lead us in and out, having them trigger all the lights.  That didn't work out as the dynamics would have involved trusting such person with a key without permission of the airbnb host, which I didn't feel comfortable doing. In the end we experienced a Shabbos locked in together. Wonderful family bonding experience.
I'm not saying that you couldn't find an opinion that would be more lenient - but this was what I was told.
Interesting. I am referring to a very Chassidish kehilla (if you're following my posts). This solution seems to be accepted by everyone (the ETA2).
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Ploni3 on July 31, 2018, 05:01:56 PM
The hallway we had an issue with had no windows so it was pitch dark without the lights. Your situation is different.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: yelped on July 31, 2018, 05:31:58 PM
The hallway we had an issue with had no windows so it was pitch dark without the lights. Your situation is different.
Ah...
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: shaulyaakov on August 02, 2018, 12:32:13 PM

I entirely sympathize with you.  I had exact experience years ago and LOR's suggestion was to find someone who didn't have to keep Shabbos to lead us in and out, having them trigger all the lights.  That didn't work out as the dynamics would have involved trusting such person with a key without permission of the airbnb host, which I didn't feel comfortable doing. In the end we experienced a Shabbos locked in together. Wonderful family bonding experience.
I'm not saying that you couldn't find an opinion that would be more lenient - but this was what I was told.

If the hallway would be bright enough it would be a Grama on a Psik Reisha D'Lo Nicha Lei, which is at worst a double-Dirabanan, which is permissible B'Makom Mitzvah. According to some, it could be Muttar LeChatchilla. A dark hallway is worse since it's Neicha Lei. In that theoretical situation, is there a way to install a nightlight into the hallway to make it Lo Nicha?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on August 02, 2018, 01:24:10 PM
I remember hearing a shiur from R' Veiner from Monsey where he says to walk really slow as if the light isn't on so even if it does turn on it's lo nicha lei. i could be totally wrong though
https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?a=42985
question is at 13.17I did remember incorrectly. he said that if you didn't know there is a light and it turned on, you should walk slowly so at least you don't get any benefit
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Ploni3 on August 02, 2018, 08:18:24 PM
If the hallway would be bright enough it would be a Grama on a Psik Reisha D'Lo Nicha Lei, which is at worst a double-Dirabanan, which is permissible B'Makom Mitzvah. According to some, it could be Muttar LeChatchilla. A dark hallway is worse since it's Neicha Lei. In that theoretical situation, is there a way to install a nightlight into the hallway to make it Lo Nicha?

Yup. That's exactly what I thought of, after the fact.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on January 07, 2019, 03:10:02 PM
Perhaps we should make a dedicated thread listing all shabbatons/kosher catered? or does it belong here?

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Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 07, 2019, 03:37:36 PM
Perhaps we should make a dedicated thread listing all shabbatons/kosher catered? or does it belong here?

Starting
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This you? Price, caterer, kashrus?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on January 07, 2019, 03:40:14 PM
This you? Price, caterer, kashrus?
not me no idea all i see is what you see
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on January 22, 2019, 01:22:44 PM
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Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: whacked1 on March 12, 2019, 09:38:19 PM
Really early stages. New restaurant just open next door to andaz wall street is working out making shul in hotel and restaurant catering shabbos meals.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on March 12, 2019, 09:51:43 PM
Really early stages. New restaurant just open next door to andaz wall street is working out making shul in hotel and restaurant catering shabbos meals.
i doubt there is a demand in that area
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: keepsmiling123 on June 21, 2019, 08:52:58 AM
Any chance of a minyan at Hyatt Chesapeake Bay July 4 weekend?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: cooljoe613 on June 21, 2019, 03:42:59 PM
maybe make a temp minyan on go daven see if there is interest
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: keepsmiling123 on June 21, 2019, 04:10:27 PM
maybe make a temp minyan on go daven see if there is interest

awesome idea!
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: cooljoe613 on June 24, 2019, 12:03:07 PM
are there any hotels i can use my bonvoy points that have a minyan near or in the hotel this weekend?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on June 24, 2019, 12:16:36 PM
are there any hotels i can use my bonvoy points that have a minyan near or in the hotel this weekend?
St Regis NYC
JW marriott NYC
Sheraton Eatontown
St Regis Bal Harbour
Ritz Carlton Bal Harbour
Sheraton Silver Springs

I can come up with a lot more if you need.........
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Chief Rabbi of New York on June 24, 2019, 08:15:43 PM
Whatís close to Sheraton Eatontown
And how far away is it
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: aygart on June 24, 2019, 10:11:01 PM
Whatís close to Sheraton Eatontown
And how far away is it
https://www.eatontownshul.com/
In the tchum :)
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: yelped on June 24, 2019, 10:11:49 PM
https://www.eatontownshul.com/
In the tchum :)
🙏
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: aygart on June 24, 2019, 10:16:20 PM
🙏
I measured it myself.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: yelped on June 24, 2019, 10:38:53 PM
I measured it myself.
The emoji was meant to be interpreted as "Thank You", not "Pray, tell me..."  :)
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: cooljoe613 on June 25, 2019, 05:00:35 PM
its around 25 min walk anyone going this weekend? maybe we can make a minyan
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: keepsmiling123 on June 25, 2019, 11:15:26 PM
Any chance of a minyan at Hyatt Chesapeake Bay July 4 weekend?

At 2 so far, if anyone interested PM me
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on June 25, 2019, 11:28:10 PM
At 2 so far, if anyone interested PM me


Thought about it but no point availability
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on June 25, 2019, 11:53:09 PM

Thought about it but no point availability

its in and out. I just booked it for someone yesterday when it popped back up. They won't be of any help for a minyan though
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: keepsmiling123 on June 26, 2019, 12:27:33 AM

Thought about it but no point availability

Was there a few min ago
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: shaulyaakov on June 26, 2019, 09:13:36 AM
https://www.eatontownshul.com/
In the tchum :)

Why would techum come into play? Looks like the route is pretty developed.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Agoldsc1 on June 27, 2019, 10:00:05 AM
This might be a basic question, but is an eruv needed to carry inside an outdoor pool area if it's fully enclosed? Meaning, the pool area is surrounded by fencing or railing (with doors which can be opened at any time). My intuition tells me that it is prohibited, but then why is it permitted to carry inside of a hotel lobby or the hallways? Simply because there is a roof?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: chinagel on June 27, 2019, 02:03:23 PM
This might be a basic question, but is an eruv needed to carry inside an outdoor pool area if it's fully enclosed? Meaning, the pool area is surrounded by fencing or railing (with doors which can be opened at any time). My intuition tells me that it is prohibited, but then why is it permitted to carry inside of a hotel lobby or the hallways? Simply because there is a roof?
Who says you can carry inside a hotel lobby?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Agoldsc1 on June 27, 2019, 02:07:44 PM
Who says you can carry inside a hotel lobby?

http://www.crcweb.org/ask_rav/shabbosinhotel.php
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: chinagel on June 27, 2019, 02:20:36 PM
http://www.crcweb.org/ask_rav/shabbosinhotel.php
Interesting. Is that consensus, or there are cholkim? @aygart
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Agoldsc1 on June 27, 2019, 02:34:44 PM
Interesting. Is that consensus, or there are cholkim? @aygart

I don't know, but the CRC normally errs on the side of caution.

From this article, could the poo area be considered a courtyard?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on June 27, 2019, 03:11:40 PM
I don't know, but the CRC normally errs on the side of caution.

From this article, could the poo area be considered a courtyard?
assuming there are no breaches greater than 10 amos, i would imagine an actual wall is better than an eruv
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: chinagel on June 27, 2019, 03:16:17 PM
I don't know, but the CRC normally errs on the side of caution.

From this article, could the poo area be considered a courtyard?
why should it be different?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Agoldsc1 on June 27, 2019, 03:45:08 PM
why should it be different?

Eruvin is a very complicated topic so I didn't want to make any assumptions.

Does the material of the perimeter make a difference? When dealing with a courtyard from the times of the gemara, the perimeter is presumably solid walls. In a hotel, it might be a slatted fence, or even a wall of trees. Would that work? I would think so since an eruv is just a string, but maybe not?

And regarding the 10 amos gap, that's pretty big, approximately 15 feet. How is that calculated? Is it cumulative, meaning can the perimeter have  2 5-amos gaps? Can there be mutiple gaps as long as the majority is enclosed, meaning 3 15-amos walls seperated 3 10-amos gaps?

And how would one go about making an eruv so that items can be transported into the pool area, if it's considered a courtyard? Or maybe really everything outside of your personal hotel room is part of one large courtyard, pool area included?

So many questions!
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on June 27, 2019, 04:33:30 PM
Please take this to the halacha thread
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Luvisrael on July 08, 2019, 03:28:44 PM
Any ideas for this weekend?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Joel on August 04, 2019, 09:51:37 AM
very informative!
http://hotelsnearshuls.com/
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: HahuGavrah on August 04, 2019, 11:56:23 AM
very informative!
http://hotelsnearshuls.com/
Thanks. More links in the wiki.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on August 04, 2019, 01:28:08 PM
very informative!
http://hotelsnearshuls.com/
I operate the website, feedback, assistance, contributions, and donations gratefully accepted by PM
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Joel on August 05, 2019, 10:41:31 PM
Anyone know of any confirmed minyan at a hotel in the Tri-State area for shabbos nachmi?
(Except embassy suites parsippany)
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Luvisrael on August 13, 2019, 09:54:02 AM
Which hotel are people going to in Parsippany NJ that is shabbos friendly?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Joel on August 13, 2019, 05:48:41 PM
Which hotel are people going to in Parsippany NJ that is shabbos friendly?
Embassy suites, Hyatt house east  (full kitchen) & Sheraton
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Luvisrael on August 13, 2019, 05:53:43 PM
Embassy suites, Hyatt house east  (full kitchen) & Sheraton
i mean manual keys
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on August 13, 2019, 06:22:13 PM
I didn't read through this entire thread, but I did look at the Wiki and couldn't find any reference to the following issue, so I'll post my question here.

I was recently made aware of a major Shabbos issue in hi-risers in EY. It seems like buildings taller than 5 floors might have electric pumps in order to provide water to higher floors. Opening a faucet or flushing the toilet can directly affect the operation of the pump, potentially presenting a problem on Shabbos. There are shabbos compliant solutions out there (Zomet.org.il seems to provide one), but unless specified builders might not install them.

Based on https://www.zomet.org.il/?CategoryID=422&ArticleID=1123 it might also be a problem in a Hotel. (though I'm not sure why they say the problem is only in the top 4 floors).

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משאבות לחץ Ė כמעט בכל בית מלון מותקנים משאבות להגברת לחץ המים, ובייחוד בקומות הגבוהות. המשמעות המעשית היא שבעת פתיחת ברזי המים, משאבת הלחץ עלולה להיכנס   לפעולה כדי להגביר את הלחץ [10] . לכן במלון שאין לו התקן מאושר Ė יש להימנע מלהזמין חדר ב-4 הקומות העליונות שלו. במקרה שכבר הזמין חדר בקומה גבוהה - ניתן להקל בהורדת המים לאסלה, שהוא צורך גדול והותר משום 'כבוד הבריות'. לשתייה ולרחיצת פנים וידיים, ניתן וראוי להכין מראש בקבוקי מים.

Has anyone ever looked into this for hotels (or hi-rise residential buildings), and have any insights?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Joel on August 13, 2019, 06:31:43 PM
i mean manual keys
you can always call any hotel before booking and inquire if they have a manual key option. Simple solution.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: moko on August 13, 2019, 07:20:07 PM
I didn't read through this entire thread, but I did look at the Wiki and couldn't find any reference to the following issue, so I'll post my question here.

I was recently made aware of a major Shabbos issue in hi-risers in EY. It seems like buildings taller than 5 floors might have electric pumps in order to provide water to higher floors. Opening a faucet or flushing the toilet can directly affect the operation of the pump, potentially presenting a problem on Shabbos. There are shabbos compliant solutions out there (Zomet.org.il seems to provide one), but unless specified builders might not install them.

Based on https://www.zomet.org.il/?CategoryID=422&ArticleID=1123 it might also be a problem in a Hotel. (though I'm not sure why they say the problem is only in the top 4 floors).

Has anyone ever looked into this for hotels (or hi-rise residential buildings), and have any insights?
I don't believe he's right about which floor makes a difference. The pumps pump water I to storage tanks on the roof and then gravity is in play. There's no difference in such scenarios if your on a high floor or low floor. Regardless, it's definitely a safek psik reisha or better. There are sensors (or plunger floats on older pumps) that activate when it teaches below a certain level. This is my understanding when it was noigeya in reverse (a toilet at sewer level needs a pump for drainage)
Title: Re: Shabbos at a hotel master thread
Post by: moko on August 14, 2019, 07:31:53 AM
After quite a search, we settled with the Courtyard Lincroft Red Bank (http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/ewrrb-courtyard-lincroft-red-bank/). The staff from the Northeast sales staff (up in Boston) who to care of the event booking to the GM and local event manager who took care of the local details to the front desk staff whom arranged room placement and last but not least, the maintenance staff who took care of setup and cleanup, all the individuals we dealt with went out of their way to accommodate us.
We arrived at the hotel Friday afternoon around 1pm and immediately they took care of check in, though check in isn't until 3pm. most of our 10 rooms were placed on the ground level though a few were placed on the 2nd floor due to personal preferences and a complementary suite upgrade. (We davened shacharis sunday morning in the suite living room)

        The hotel itself is very conducive for a nice shabbos getaway due, in no small part, to the fantastic courtyard, and it isn't a very large hotel (just 3 floors and 140 rooms). The hotel is built around the courtyard which is therefore completely surrounded and needs no eruv to carry within it or across to your room. All the ground floor rooms have a small patio with 2 chairs and a small table which opens onto the larger hotel garden - or parking lot if you get a lot facing room  >:(, none of us did though. (though some of our rooms had larger personal patios - short stone wall around it- which jutted out into the courtyard with no balcony above or overhanging trees- for the DDF'r looking for a sukka friendly hotel room) All of the upper floor rooms all had balconies overlooking the garden. The hotel was renovated about 6 months ago with a fresh and modern decor and looks surprisingly like the pictures you find on the website.

        The conference room (1 of 2) is 650 sqf. with a coat closet and countertop. The room comfortably was setup for 30 ppl. and an additional 15 in the "shul" section (I would estimate that you could setup for 50-60 ppl comfortably with "U" shaped setup, if you use the whole room). I brought a fridge with me, as the hotel was unable to provide one (though they offered to arrange one with a rental company which I declined) We borrowed coat racks from a gemach and hung curtains from them as a mechitza. The hotel officially allowed us to setup hot plates and a crockpot on the (marble) countertop in the room.(though I made sure to get that in writing from the sales staff)

        Cost: The conference room was $300 for Shabbos and $150 for Friday- essentially ours from 3 pm on Friday to 11 pm for $450.
The rooms cost $139 reg. rate or $119 Marriott rewards offer rate (available for rewards members- i think) or 15000 points per night. We reserved each room for 2 nights- all points. (70k + free night for each person- everyone walked away with enough for next year's  :D)
doing this again next week at Four Points Sheraton Buffalo Grove. Was a cat 1 when we booked so 7500 per night. (It's now a cat 2- 12500). We booked about 20 rooms. The hotel is within the Buffalo Grove Eruv and only 1.2 mi from the shul if you don't have a minyan, 2 huge advantages.conference room is only $200 per day and we have it booked for 3 days. Food is being catered by a local caterer, hotel is providing refrigeration.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: moko on August 14, 2019, 07:33:08 AM
i mean manual keys
are you open to alternate solutions or do you only want manual keys?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Luvisrael on August 14, 2019, 11:37:01 AM
are you open to alternate solutions or do you only want manual keys?
yeah I know abt taping locks
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on August 14, 2019, 04:27:02 PM
I don't believe he's right about which floor makes a difference. The pumps pump water I to storage tanks on the roof and then gravity is in play. There's no difference in such scenarios if your on a high floor or low floor. Regardless, it's definitely a safek psik reisha or better. There are sensors (or plunger floats on older pumps) that activate when it teaches below a certain level. This is my understanding when it was noigeya in reverse (a toilet at sewer level needs a pump for drainage)

I did some googling about the topic, and from what I see it seems like there most probably is a difference between lower floors and higher floors, as an efficient system would use regular gravity feed for lower floors, and a rooftop tank for higher floors.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: jmz on August 16, 2019, 05:56:29 AM
I didn't read through this entire thread, but I did look at the Wiki and couldn't find any reference to the following issue, so I'll post my question here.

I was recently made aware of a major Shabbos issue in hi-risers in EY. It seems like buildings taller than 5 floors might have electric pumps in order to provide water to higher floors. Opening a faucet or flushing the toilet can directly affect the operation of the pump, potentially presenting a problem on Shabbos. There are shabbos compliant solutions out there (Zomet.org.il seems to provide one), but unless specified builders might not install them.

Based on https://www.zomet.org.il/?CategoryID=422&ArticleID=1123 it might also be a problem in a Hotel. (though I'm not sure why they say the problem is only in the top 4 floors).

Has anyone ever looked into this for hotels (or hi-rise residential buildings), and have any insights?

It's not only hi-rises either. I have seen this issue in homes with more than one floor in Israel. As soon as you open the faucet, regardless of what floor you're on, the pump goes on. Obviously, everyone should ask their own rav but I have a smart timer and set it for a few shabbosos at a time to go off for shabbos. Yuntif is apparently ok.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: moko on August 16, 2019, 02:22:26 PM
It's not only hi-rises either. I have seen this issue in homes with more than one floor in Israel. As soon as you open the faucet, regardless of what floor you're on, the pump goes on. Obviously, everyone should ask their own rav but I have a smart timer and set it for a few shabbosos at a time to go off for shabbos. Yuntif is apparently ok.
many (most?) Single family homes dont have pumps , unless there a special circumstances or issue. Usually they rely on water pressure. There are cases where pumps are used in reverse such as if a toilet or shower is at or below the sewer line.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: jmz on August 17, 2019, 01:14:33 PM
many (most?) Single family homes dont have pumps , unless there a special circumstances or issue. Usually they rely on water pressure. There are cases where pumps are used in reverse such as if a toilet or shower is at or below the sewer line.
I was referring back to EY. Which has both as well but people don't realize to check which is what happened to me.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: YeshivishGuy on October 03, 2019, 01:08:16 PM
Hi all,
i wanted to go to Stamford for shabbos in December. I was going to stay at Holiday in Express in Stanford since I saw it listed as a shabbos friendly hotel on  hotels near shuls .com. however  when i called the hotel to comfirm I was told there is no way to enter the hotel without going thru electric automatic opening doors. anyway stay here and know if it is shabbos friendly.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Sammyonetwo on October 25, 2019, 02:58:02 AM
My flight got canceled and staying in Madrid for shabbos.  So I checked into my hotel I see there small night lights in the room  that work with sensors when you walk around.
And all the hallway lights when walking to the Elevators are controlled by sensors.

Anyone know a way to work around these sensors to leave them on or always off especially the room ones? 

Thinking i might need to change my hotel anyone that could recommend a hotel in Madrid close to Chabad that knows we wonít have these issues?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 25, 2019, 03:51:01 AM
My flight got canceled and staying in Madrid for shabbos.  So I checked into my hotel I see there small night lights in the room  that work with sensors when you walk around.
And all the hallway lights when walking to the Elevators are controlled by sensors.

Anyone know a way to work around these sensors to leave them on or always off especially the room ones? 

Thinking i might need to change my hotel anyone that could recommend a hotel in Madrid close to Chabad that knows we wonít have these issues?
In the room find the sensor and block it. In the hallway ask your LOR, but assuming you can see without the new lights being on, it's פסיק רישיה דלא ניחא ליה, which is OK if you consider electricity דרבנן. 
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Yard sale on October 25, 2019, 06:09:39 AM
In the room find the sensor and block it. In the hallway ask your LOR, but assuming you can see without the new lights being on, it's פסיק רישיה דלא ניחא ליה, which is OK if you consider electricity דרבנן.

What makes it פסרדלנ״ל if the lights help one see even better. Perhaps you are confusing it with תוספת אור of אמירא לעכו״ם?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: yelped on October 25, 2019, 10:14:30 AM
What makes it פסרדלנ״ל if the lights help one see even better. Perhaps you are confusing it with תוספת אור of אמירא לעכו״ם?
It's a Teshuva from Rav Wosner.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Yard sale on October 25, 2019, 11:07:31 AM
It's a Teshuva from Rav Wosner.

You mean this teshuva?
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1419&st=&pgnum=51&hilite=
 
Although he starts by discussing פס״ר he is not being matir due to פסרדלנ״ל rather because it isnít considered a maaseh melacha at all. Itís not at all clear that would apply to the hotel hallway.  He is referring to one walking on the street and passing by our house with a motion sensor. So is the חשב האפוד he quotes. The Sefer לקראת שבת appears to be misapplying Rav Vosner (Rav Vosners teshuva in ohr Yisrael is identical to the one in shevet HaLevi). I donít think anyone can possibly call the hotel lighting לא ניחא.This might even be more comparable to the end of the teshuva where he prohibits  one walking through a door that is activated by motion sensor.  Although not completely analogous the reasoning may be similar; the hotel is setting the hallway lighting so that it is activated by the motion of the guest for the guests benefit and that becomes the normal way to use the hallway. Very different from passing by a motion activated light on a strangers house on the street.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: yelped on October 25, 2019, 11:34:42 AM
I think this was discussed earlier here. Passing by during the day shouldn't be any issue.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Yard sale on October 25, 2019, 11:46:20 AM
I think this was discussed earlier here. Passing by during the day shouldn't be any issue.

During the day one can make the case that it is לא ניחא if there is fully adequate daylight coming through. In my experience this is often not the case.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Pesach on November 08, 2019, 12:52:28 AM
does anyone know if conrad washington dc shabbos friendly ?
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Joel on November 18, 2019, 05:38:11 PM
Interesting
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Cholentfresser on November 18, 2019, 08:02:40 PM
Interesting
TIL there's such a thing as a zeved habat.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Joel on November 18, 2019, 08:10:13 PM
TIL there's such a thing as a zeved habat.
+1
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: moko on November 19, 2019, 04:57:35 AM
TIL there's such a thing as a zeved habat.
it's Boston......
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: aygart on November 19, 2019, 07:57:48 AM
it's Boston......
There are parts of Brooklyn where that would make more sense than Boston.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: moko on November 19, 2019, 05:19:28 PM
There are parts of Brooklyn where that would make more sense than Boston.
and there are parts of Boston/ Cambridge that will trump that.... this is the center of progressive (Juda)ism
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: aygart on November 19, 2019, 05:54:47 PM
and there are parts of Boston/ Cambridge that will trump that.... this is the center of progressive (Juda)ism
Nothing to do with progressivism. There are places in Lakewood where it would make sense. it is a sfardi minhag.
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Luvisrael on November 20, 2019, 06:35:26 PM
Interesting
cool rooms
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: Mordeyj on November 27, 2019, 04:55:45 AM
What are the best options for a nice hotel in Manhattan over shabbos?
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Post by: mochjas on November 27, 2019, 07:00:08 AM
What are the best options for a nice hotel in Manhattan over shabbos?
St Regis was pretty good
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Post by: Agoldsc1 on November 29, 2019, 10:18:31 AM
Is there a minyan at the Turnberry in Aventura this shabbos? I know itís a long shot but there are a lot of Jewy looking people here.
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Post by: mendy from lakewood on December 10, 2019, 10:04:26 AM
Anyone know if the crown plaza in Englewood NJ is shabbos friendly and if they are accommodating to Jews?
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Post by: Pesach on January 21, 2020, 12:26:55 AM
Does anyone know if fairmont washington d.c is Shabbos  friendly? or the saint regis Washington D.C
Title: hotels on shabbos
Post by: msandg212@gmail.com on January 23, 2020, 01:40:25 PM
does anyone know a comprehensive information source on how to work around shabbos issues at a hotel (electronic doors/locks,a.c./heat sensors,etc.)
Title: Re: hotels on shabbos
Post by: stooges44 on February 26, 2020, 08:20:24 PM
Try this?

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7481.0
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Post by: Luvisrael on August 14, 2020, 05:07:27 PM
Any issues lighting tea lights and smoke detectors?
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Post by: Essen est zich on August 14, 2020, 06:21:45 PM
Any issues lighting tea lights and smoke detectors?
Don't think so... I lit 2 beeswax 2 day candles erev yk and didn't have any issues at a courtyard I stayed once at.
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Post by: Luvisrael on August 17, 2020, 09:54:41 PM
Don't think so... I lit 2 beeswax 2 day candles erev yk and didn't have any issues at a courtyard I stayed once at.
i can gladly report the alarm didnít go off  ;D
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Post by: Cw3323 on August 19, 2020, 05:15:24 PM
Any issues lighting tea lights and smoke detectors?
Tea Lights doesn't release smoke, Don't worry about it
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Post by: Shmuel4 on August 24, 2020, 09:59:38 PM
Anyone going to Pasippany Whippany this Shabbos?  Trying to see if we'll have a minyan.
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Post by: cgr on September 10, 2020, 02:42:39 PM
Got a funny but useful video today on how to open an hotel room door on Shabbos. Too large to post so if anyone wants it let me know how to post (without going the three-step route of uploading to YouTube.)
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Post by: Zalc on September 10, 2020, 05:10:34 PM
Got a funny but useful video today on how to open an hotel room door on Shabbos. Too large to post so if anyone wants it let me know how to post (without going the three-step route of uploading to YouTube.)
Can you post a synopsis?
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Post by: cgr on September 10, 2020, 06:27:14 PM
Can you post a synopsis?

Hmmm. Let's see.

You tie a longish string to the door-handle on the inside, and you let a bit of it trail out of the door when you leave (2 inches will do so it's unnoticeable). When you need to open the door you schlep the string and it pulls on the handle and opens the door.
I don't know how well it works in practice, or if it works on all types of doors, but the guy was demonstrating and it seemed seamless.
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Post by: Joel on September 10, 2020, 06:55:47 PM
Hmmm. Let's see.

You tie a longish string to the door-handle on the inside, and you let a bit of it trail out of the door when you leave (2 inches will do so it's unnoticeable). When you need to open the door you schlep the string and it pulls on the handle and opens the door.
I don't know how well it works in practice, or if it works on all types of doors, but the guy was demonstrating and it seemed seamless.
Old idea...
Haven't tried it at a hotel but on a cruise I tied a gartel to the inside door handle and left a little sticking out the bottom of the door. I just had to pull the gartel and the door opened. :)
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Post by: Zalc on September 10, 2020, 10:33:13 PM
Hmmm. Let's see.

You tie a longish string to the door-handle on the inside, and you let a bit of it trail out of the door when you leave (2 inches will do so it's unnoticeable). When you need to open the door you schlep the string and it pulls on the handle and opens the door.
I don't know how well it works in practice, or if it works on all types of doors, but the guy was demonstrating and it seemed seamless.
Video:
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It's pretty brilliant.

If you are worried about security, you may be able to attach some sort of small magnet to the string and another to your bendel (if you've got one), and use that to pull the string out to the hallway
Title: Re: Shabbos at A Hotel Master Thread
Post by: cgr on September 10, 2020, 10:47:47 PM

If you are worried about security, you may be able to attach some sort of small magnet to the string and another to your bendel (if you've got one), and use that to pull the string out to the hallway

Ner Mitzvah can design a kit.
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Post by: Zalc on September 11, 2020, 09:52:27 AM
Hmmm. Let's see.

You tie a longish string to the door-handle on the inside, and you let a bit of it trail out of the door when you leave (2 inches will do so it's unnoticeable). When you need to open the door you schlep the string and it pulls on the handle and opens the door.
I don't know how well it works in practice, or if it works on all types of doors, but the guy was demonstrating and it seemed seamless.
It might be a good idea to leave the "do not disturb" sign outside the door so they don't do room service and lock you out...