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Title: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 20, 2017, 02:49:41 PM
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Some comments at OMAAT saying this will apply to all flights on all carriers from the Middle East to the US.
Quote from: http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/03/20/royal-jordanian-electronic-device-ban/#comment-3634818
According to a reliable US source, this will happen on all Middle East airlines flights that do NOT go through a US pre-clearance facility. It will be announced tomorrow – looks like Royal Jordanian announced before they were supposed to. Not a joke.
Title: Re: Royal Jordanian banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Yaalili on March 20, 2017, 03:20:19 PM
Seems it will more than just RJ per the new post.
Title: Re: Royal Jordanian banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 20, 2017, 03:23:36 PM
Seems it will more than just RJ per the new post.
Yeah, I posted it like this because at first it was just comments saying it would affect others, but now several blogs have posted a tweet from a Saudia exec as a source:

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Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: yelped on March 20, 2017, 03:32:34 PM
Makes sense. Wondering why they waited until now. Should have done it right after the Egypt plane crash. I have a feeling "lost" baggage becoming a lot more common as the baggage handlers take their share...
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 20, 2017, 04:11:22 PM
Makes sense. Wondering why they waited until now. Should have done it right after the Egypt plane crash. I have a feeling "lost" baggage becoming a lot more common as the baggage handlers take their share...
How would this policy help at all?
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on March 20, 2017, 04:26:38 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=43500440&nid=235
Maybe this can be the reason?
Lol?
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: SearchGuy on March 20, 2017, 04:29:06 PM
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/03/20/airplane-electronics-ban/
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: rollingstone on March 20, 2017, 04:56:59 PM
Any word on which countries?
Have a flight from TLV-VIE-NYC, in a few hours.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 20, 2017, 05:11:11 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/20/news/companies/middle-east-airline-electronics-ban/index.html
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Ergel on March 20, 2017, 05:22:27 PM
Quote
An aviation official said U.S. carriers are not impacted because none flies directly from the countries in question to the U.S.
Israel is not included...
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: TimT on March 20, 2017, 05:46:32 PM
There goes kids entertainment.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: grodnoking on March 20, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
There goes kids entertainment.
"Buy" your kids a prepaid cell phone.
Costs a few buck, and definitely worth it on a long flight.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Ergel on March 20, 2017, 06:20:00 PM
I assume a 7 inch tablet would be fine
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: TimT on March 20, 2017, 06:24:35 PM
I assume a 7 inch tablet would be fine
Until the agent says "but it's not a cellphone"
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Jkhein on March 20, 2017, 08:33:36 PM
Maybe this comes after dans facebook live streaming for an hour yesterday :-)
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 20, 2017, 09:31:14 PM
Trade war with the allegedly subsidized airlines...
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Eliyohu on March 20, 2017, 09:42:24 PM
The tweet was deleted...
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: springles on March 20, 2017, 11:39:00 PM
So people flying RJ to Israel for pesach (I know a few) won't be able to take a laptop or iPad on the flight? That's crazy
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Emkay on March 21, 2017, 02:34:47 AM
So I would imagine this is a way for American intelligence to access any information they want from people of interest.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Moshe123 on March 21, 2017, 06:54:23 AM
You guys really think that they are doing it just to make you uncomfortable? It's not like they can profile.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: chff on March 21, 2017, 07:04:59 AM
You guys really think that they are doing it just to make you uncomfortable? It's not like they can profile.
So their profile
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: harrym on March 21, 2017, 07:49:10 AM
Is this only from these countries to the USA, or from the USA as well?
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Emkay on March 21, 2017, 08:33:36 AM
Is this only from these countries to the USA, or from the USA as well?
Doesn't seem to be ex-USA.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: chff on March 21, 2017, 08:48:31 AM
And Donald is laughing, let me see fight this Travel Ban
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 21, 2017, 09:22:03 AM
And Donald is laughing, let me see fight this Travel Ban
If this is his 'ban', it's a pretty pathetic attempt.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: damaxer91 on March 21, 2017, 10:30:57 AM
UK has enacted a similar ban

Sounds like a specific threat
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Moshe123 on March 21, 2017, 11:29:10 AM
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: chff on March 21, 2017, 11:45:28 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/03/21/trump-wont-allow-you-to-use-ipads-or-laptops-on-certain-airlines-heres-the-underlying-story/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/03/21/trump-wont-allow-you-to-use-ipads-or-laptops-on-certain-airlines-heres-the-underlying-story/)
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: 159dallas on March 21, 2017, 12:23:57 PM
The electronic ban is only to the USA not X USA and only applies to the countries on the list below:Royal Jordanian, EgyptAir, Turkish Airlines, Saudi Arabian Airlines, Kuwait Airways, Royal Air Moroc, Qatar Airways, Emirates and Etihad Airways. So if you have friends providing back on turkish for pesach they will not be able to bring Electronics on the plane on the way back.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: 159dallas on March 21, 2017, 12:27:43 PM
This is big news for anyone going back from Israel on Turkish or Royal Jordanian
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: SearchGuy on March 21, 2017, 12:32:31 PM
I read that UK is also considering joining this ban

http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/21/news/uk-europe-airline-electronics-ban/
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: 159dallas on March 21, 2017, 12:34:40 PM
List of Countries:
Egypt
Jordan
United Arab Emirates
Kuwait
Saudia Arabia
Morocco
Turkey
Qatar

List of Airlines
Egypt Air
Royal Jordanian
Emirates and Etihad
Kuwait Air
Saudia Arabian Air
Royal Air Morocco
Turkish Air
Qatar Air
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: eliteflyer on March 21, 2017, 12:44:59 PM
BBC is reporting that UK accounced similar ban which notably impacts BA flights as well, but seems to be fewer countries:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39343971
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: springles on March 21, 2017, 12:45:09 PM
This is big news for anyone going back from Israel on Turkish or Royal Jordanian
yes, and for those that were still deciding this is a major issue to consider, especially with kids. How do you entertain them for a 15 hour trip without any of these devices. Sad, because 20 years ago this question would have been silly but today is a legitimate question.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: springles on March 21, 2017, 12:47:07 PM
The electronic ban is only to the USA not X USA and only applies to the countries on the list below:Royal Jordanian, EgyptAir, Turkish Airlines, Saudi Arabian Airlines, Kuwait Airways, Royal Air Moroc, Qatar Airways, Emirates and Etihad Airways. So if you have friends providing back on turkish for pesach they will not be able to bring Electronics on the plane on the way back.
I heard at first that it was in either direction. Any confirmation that it is only entering the US?
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 21, 2017, 12:47:36 PM
yes, and for those that were still deciding this is a major issue to consider, especially with kids. How do you entertain them for a 15 hour trip without any of these devices. Sad, because 20 years ago this question would have been silly but today is a legitimate question.
Meh. I have a flight in August on RJ, I'm not particularly worried. Worst case I scrounge around for some extra cellphones for them to use.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: springles on March 21, 2017, 12:58:10 PM
Meh. I have a flight in August on RJ, I'm not particularly worried. Worst case I scrounge around for some extra cellphones for them to use.
any idea if a portable dvd player falls under this ban? it says communication devices and that doesnt have any communication abilities
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: aygart on March 21, 2017, 12:59:23 PM
any idea if a portable dvd player falls under this ban? it says communication devices and that doesnt have any communication abilities
tell them it is your old flip phone
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: chff on March 21, 2017, 01:39:00 PM
@Fakeunitedjeff: One way you know the Electronics Ban is BS is that Delta's flight to risky Lagos is getting totally ignored. Dick laughs from retirement.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Moshe123 on March 21, 2017, 01:48:18 PM

There must be some real intelligence, even if they don't say so.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: SearchGuy on March 21, 2017, 01:56:32 PM
Who cares what the reason and how many countries impose this, Donald Trump will always be at fault
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: 159dallas on March 21, 2017, 02:00:57 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/03/21/uk-bans-electronics-s
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: 159dallas on March 21, 2017, 02:09:35 PM
UK Ban Countries
Turkey
Lebanon
Egypt
Jordan
Tunisia
Saudia Arabia

Airlines
British Airways
EasyJet
Jet2.com
Monarch
Thomas Cook
Thomson
Turkish Air
Atlas-Global Airways
Pegasus Airways
Middle Eastern Airlines
Egypt Air
Royal Jordanian
Tunis Air
Saudia Arabia Air

A few variations in countries and airlines (US no Lebanon, Tunasia UK no UAE, Morocco, Kuwait). But similar in many respects....
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: springles on March 21, 2017, 02:18:32 PM

There must be some real intelligence, even if they don't say so.
if so then why wouldnt it also include US airlines flying from those countries
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: SearchGuy on March 21, 2017, 02:20:18 PM
if so then why wouldnt it also include US airlines flying from those countries
because there is no non stop flights from these countries to the US
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: springles on March 21, 2017, 02:26:49 PM
because there is no non stop flights from these countries to the US
ok, so then why wouldnt the fear be that someone could take one of these weaponized laptops and bring it to somewhere that does fly into the US on a different airline?
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 21, 2017, 02:30:54 PM
because there is no non stop flights from these countries to the US
And why only non-stop? Plus, if true, this would indicate otherwise:
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: jr611 on March 21, 2017, 02:35:06 PM
well i guess nobody on here will be flying turkish anymore...
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: SearchGuy on March 21, 2017, 02:37:42 PM
this would indicate otherwise:
Huh? Didn't know Turkish flies direct TLV-US...
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: 159dallas on March 21, 2017, 02:43:59 PM
And why only non-stop? Plus, if true, this would indicate otherwise:
[/quote

For those that don't speak or read Hebrew the tweet says
Turkish Airlines Official: Anyone who flies with the company from Israel to the US will have to store the laptop in the suitcase because of the new restrictions
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: SearchGuy on March 21, 2017, 03:02:04 PM
And why only non-stop? Plus, if true, this would indicate otherwise:
[/quote

For those that don't speak or read Hebrew the tweet says
Turkish Airlines In An Official Announcement: Anyone who flies with the company from Israel to the US will have to store the laptop in the suitcase because of the new restrictions
FTFY
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 21, 2017, 03:33:22 PM
Huh? Didn't know Turkish flies direct TLV-US...
Yeah, had that backwards in my head.

The only rationale I can think of for non-stop=problem, stopover=no problem (besides the logistics of enforcing this anywhere that connects to US), is that they don't trust the carry-on screening in those airports, but do trust the checked baggage screening. And then in the non-banned stopover airports, they're trusting even the carry-on screening. While that adequately explains it, it seems like a big stretch.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 21, 2017, 03:37:47 PM
Welcome to anti globalization
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on March 21, 2017, 04:57:57 PM
Great DDMS post!
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2017, 05:05:57 PM
Yeah, had that backwards in my head.

The only rationale I can think of for non-stop=problem, stopover=no problem (besides the logistics of enforcing this anywhere that connects to US), is that they don't trust the carry-on screening in those airports, but do trust the checked baggage screening. And then in the non-banned stopover airports, they're trusting even the carry-on screening. While that adequately explains it, it seems like a big stretch.
TSA runs carry-on screening in AUH.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: mmgfarb on March 21, 2017, 05:07:03 PM
Great DDMS post!
Yep
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 21, 2017, 05:17:21 PM
TSA runs carry-on screening in AUH.
Yeah, there was speculation yesterday that this fact would cause AUH to be exempt, but that appears not to be the case.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2017, 05:31:34 PM
Yeah, there was speculation yesterday that this fact would cause AUH to be exempt, but that appears not to be the case.
And that proved the farce.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: mgarfin on March 21, 2017, 11:26:06 PM
Im confused is there a stopover loophole? if so why is TLV-NYC  via TK affected?
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: yelped on March 21, 2017, 11:29:31 PM
Im confused is there a stopover loophole? if so why is TLV-NYC  via TK affected?
There is no stopover from Turkey to the US...
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: mgarfin on March 21, 2017, 11:38:50 PM
There is no stopover from Turkey to the US...

Is a stopover only when you stay on the plane?
TLV-IST-JFK is not a stopover, Is that called a conection?
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: ExGingi on March 21, 2017, 11:44:41 PM
TSA runs carry-on screening in AUH.
TSA doesn't know how to (or has political reasons not to) screen like the Israelis. Engaging the passenger while looking in their eyes, along with some profiling, seems to be more effective than liquid (and other) bans and removing shoes. Funny thing is that upon boarding a flight to the US at TLV one is asked whether they are carrying liquids, but nothing gets verified.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: mgarfin on March 21, 2017, 11:53:33 PM
Funny thing is that upon boarding a flight to the US at TLV one is asked whether they are carrying liquids, but nothing gets verified.

The Israelis have to do it but apparently don't really care for it. I have seen them pull ppl out of the line to check for liquids. Was that not the real  reason given god knows.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: JoeyShmoe on March 22, 2017, 11:06:15 AM
Funny thing is that upon boarding a flight to the US at TLV one is asked whether they are carrying liquids, but nothing gets verified.
I thought so too, I recently flew back from Israel and was surprised that they opened my carry on right before the gate and took my deodorant (which incidentally passed TSA security on the way to Israel), they took my Brother's bottle of Coke too...
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: yuneeq on March 22, 2017, 12:15:48 PM
Anyone think their intelligence had vague info about an impending attack like the one in UK today?
Worth noting that today is the 1 year anniversary of the Brussels Airport attack which is certainly flying-related.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: yuneeq on March 22, 2017, 01:13:26 PM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/21/what-triggered-the-laptop-ban-on-flights-answers-don-t-add-up-yet.html
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 22, 2017, 03:23:32 PM
Anyone think their intelligence had vague info about an impending attack like the one in UK today?
Worth noting that today is the 1 year anniversary of the Brussels Airport attack which is certainly flying-related.
Was that the one at Westminster Airport?
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: yuneeq on March 22, 2017, 04:57:10 PM
Was that the one at Westminster Airport?

I know you're being sarcastic, but it's possible they had intelligence that an unspecified terror act was planned in UK for anniversary of Belgium bombing. All this is obviously speculative but I do think there are interesting coincidences worth considering.

Also worth noting that if the ban was some scaremongering Trump policy I don't think the UK would have enacted their own ban. There had to be substance behind it.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 22, 2017, 05:11:13 PM
I know you're being sarcastic, but it's possible they had intelligence that an unspecified terror act was planned in UK for anniversary of Belgium bombing. All this is obviously speculative but I do think there are interesting coincidences worth considering.

Also worth noting that if the ban was some scaremongering Trump policy I don't think the UK would have enacted their own ban. There had to be substance behind it.
I'm not quite sure if I think the ban is purely ulterior motives, purely driven by security, or some combination of the two. What I'm pretty confident of is that its execution looks pretty suspect.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: yoohoo on March 22, 2017, 05:32:17 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4336926/iPads-banned-iPhones-OK-bring-flight.html
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: yuneeq on March 22, 2017, 05:43:43 PM
I'm not quite sure if I think the ban is purely ulterior motives, purely driven by security, or some combination of the two. What I'm pretty confident of is that its execution looks pretty suspect.

I think the execution (especially by the UK) shows that the intelligence made it urgent to enact these rules immediately.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 22, 2017, 06:10:14 PM
I think the execution (especially by the UK) shows that the intelligence made it urgent to enact these rules immediately.
I'm saying that the way the US implement​ed the ban seems full of holes if it's for security reasons.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: yuneeq on March 22, 2017, 06:57:40 PM
I'm saying that the way the US implement​ed the ban seems full of holes if it's for security reasons.

For instance?
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: springles on March 22, 2017, 10:04:03 PM
just booked a flight on RJ for pesach. Guess I will just have to watch the planes entertainment on the flight home
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: 12HRS on March 22, 2017, 10:11:04 PM
http://www.flyertalk.com/articles/ban-on-large-electronics-in-cabin-could-have-unintended-catastrophic-consequences.html

Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: EJB on March 22, 2017, 10:21:54 PM
Wonder if they'll let you check bags for free if flight has no baggage allowance (e.g., LCC to UL). Also, will they let you cancel if you decide restrictions make travel too onerous.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 23, 2017, 11:47:31 AM
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Emkay on March 23, 2017, 11:53:43 AM
Lol.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: TimT on March 23, 2017, 11:53:50 AM
Now watch the number of midair disturbances go up up.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 23, 2017, 11:57:41 AM
Now watch the number of midair disturbances go up up.
Lol, good point.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: ExGingi on March 23, 2017, 12:09:19 PM
Now watch the number of midair disturbances go up up.
Reminds me of a flight I took with IB many years ago (some kind of error fare that involved one leg being booked in business class and overnight stay at MAD with hotel paid by IB) for the duration of the flight there was no IFE, and IIRC cabin lights weren't even dimmed for a substantial portion of the flight. People were walking around going crazy with nothing to do. Flight attendant were mostly MIA.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: TimT on March 23, 2017, 12:53:22 PM
Reminds me of a flight I took with IB many years ago (some kind of error fare that involved one leg being booked in business class and overnight stay at MAD with hotel paid by IB) for the duration of the flight there was no IFE, and IIRC cabin lights weren't even dimmed for a substantial portion of the flight. People were walking around going crazy with nothing to do. Flight attendant were mostly MIA.
Could you imagine the guy (for JTZ-gal) next to you trying to talk to you the entire time ? Yuk
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: shaulyaakov on March 23, 2017, 01:16:57 PM

Or, you know, just watch movies. The IFE is much better than an airline like Elal anyway, and is more extensive than what most people keep on their tablets/laptops.

Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: skyguy918 on March 23, 2017, 01:23:10 PM
Or, you know, just watch movies. The IFE is much better than an airline like Elal anyway, and is more extensive than what most people keep on their tablets/laptops.
Yeah, it's actually pretty strange that they're not using it as an opportunity to tout their IFE. My guess is that they care much more about losing business customers, who won't be able to use their laptops. Hence their less than enthusiastic reception of the ban.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: SearchGuy on March 23, 2017, 01:33:30 PM
✈ 🇺🇸 ✅ #DonaldTrump #MuslimBan
How do they explain that regarding UK?
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: mmgfarb on March 23, 2017, 02:09:32 PM
https://thepointsguy.com/2017/03/emirates-gate-check-electronics/
Very interesting, also, apparently EK's ex-MXP and ATH won't be affected.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: ExGingi on March 23, 2017, 03:20:34 PM
https://thepointsguy.com/2017/03/emirates-gate-check-electronics/
Very interesting, also, apparently EK's ex-MXP and ATH won't be affected.
Why would they? The issue was with the specific airports/countries of origin. Being that certain airlines flights to the US/UK invariably originate at those airports, it was taken as an issue with the airlines. But this is evidently just about the airport of origin.

So this could be a potential source of envy between passengers who travel from affected countries with a stopover in a non-affected country (such as your examples of MXP and ATH) where those that boarded at the original origin, will not be allowed a laptop (unless they obtained it at the stopover airport) and those that boarded at the stopover will be allowed.

ETA: Now if EK and EY were smart, they would create a stopover/5th Freedom flight between TLV and their US gateways.  :D
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: yelped on March 23, 2017, 04:04:29 PM
ETA: Now if EK and EY were smart, they would create a stopover/5th Freedom flight between TLV and their US gateways.  :D
Unfortunately,  a pipe dream..
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: yoshyosh on May 11, 2017, 09:46:00 PM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/10/u-s-to-ban-laptops-in-all-cabins-of-flights-from-europe
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: chff on May 12, 2017, 12:52:03 PM
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/05/12/electronics-ban-delta-sign/ (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/05/12/electronics-ban-delta-sign/)
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Tzfas on May 12, 2017, 12:54:04 PM
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/05/12/electronics-ban-delta-sign/ (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/05/12/electronics-ban-delta-sign/)
Wow Delta is starting to enforce the ban!
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Dan on May 12, 2017, 12:59:31 PM
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/05/12/electronics-ban-delta-sign/ (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/05/12/electronics-ban-delta-sign/)
Sign has been taken down.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Something Fishy on May 16, 2017, 06:24:06 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-16/australia-may-ban-laptops-on-international-flights-turnbull-says/8529714
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: chff on May 17, 2017, 04:18:23 PM
http://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.com/2017/05/17/electronics-ban-israel-gulf-carriers/ (http://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.com/2017/05/17/electronics-ban-israel-gulf-carriers/)
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: mmgfarb on July 02, 2017, 11:20:03 AM
Etihad is no longer affected by the electronics ban, this is great! http://m.gulfnews.com/business/aviation/etihad-airways-lifts-electronics-ban-on-flights-to-us-1.2052193
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: mmgfarb on July 04, 2017, 11:07:49 PM
Etihad is no longer affected by the electronics ban, this is great! http://m.gulfnews.com/business/aviation/etihad-airways-lifts-electronics-ban-on-flights-to-us-1.2052193
Now TK as well, http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/07/04/turkish-airlines-electronics-ban-lifted/
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: ExGingi on July 05, 2017, 09:13:51 AM
Emirates also all clear
https://www.thenational.ae/uae/emirates-says-us-flight-laptop-ban-lifted-1.93488
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: ExGingi on July 09, 2017, 08:30:24 PM
RJ clear
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40552093
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: mmgfarb on July 19, 2017, 01:54:32 PM
This is getting ridiculous, you can't have it both ways. http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/07/19/electronics-banned-in-checked-bags/?utm_sourcemedium=Twitter
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: Something Fishy on October 20, 2017, 12:36:26 PM
I don't know if I should laugh or cry...

Flavor of the week is to ban electronics from checked bags:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-airlines-laptop-battery-fire-risk-20171019-story.html

https://petapixel.com/2017/10/20/us-urging-airlines-ban-cameras-checked-bags/
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: aygart on October 20, 2017, 12:38:07 PM
I don't know if I should laugh or cry...

Flavor of the week is to ban electronics from checked bags:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-airlines-laptop-battery-fire-risk-20171019-story.html

https://petapixel.com/2017/10/20/us-urging-airlines-ban-cameras-checked-bags/
This is what everyone was saying back then.
Title: Re: RJ (ETA: and others) banning electronics in cabin on flights to US
Post by: SearchGuy on October 20, 2017, 12:49:58 PM
Scary