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Title: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2011, 12:13:53 AM
Chase Continental Consumer OnePass Plus WMC (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/onepass/): No (Does include primary CDW outside Israel)
Chase Continental Consumer Presidential Plus WMC (http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/content/products/chase/presidentialplus.aspx?offer=PPC95SC): No
Chase Continental Business WMC (http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/content/products/chase/smallbusiness.aspx?offer=BC25): Yes ($85 annual fee)
Chase Continental Business Presidential Plus WMC (http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/content/products/chase/businesspresplus.aspx?offer=PB00&mkid=619Z): Yes ($395 annual fee)

Citi Thank You Preferred WMC (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/typ/): Yes. (No annual fee)
Citi AA Consumer WMC: Yes ($85 annual fee)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2011, 12:14:17 AM
Freel free to add more cards here and I'll update the OP.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: skyguy918 on June 23, 2011, 12:24:01 AM
Are there absolutely no non-WMC cards out there that still cover Israel. I saw someone mention something about the PenFed Amex. Maybe there are others too?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Monsey on June 23, 2011, 02:03:36 AM
Citi thank you prefered WMC (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/typ/): yes. Its one of the only WMC that covers israel with no annual fee
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 02:25:06 AM
Amex Centurion covers.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 02:25:37 AM
Maybe include FOREX as well
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2011, 02:29:46 AM
Amex Centurion covers.
Where did you see that??
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 02:40:46 AM
Where did you see that??
In Avis Israel (I'm there 2-3 times a week). A guy presented an Amex black, and the agent asked him if he wants insurance on the card, I turned to my guy and was like 'huh? On an amex?' he said on a black.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2011, 02:49:08 AM
In Avis Israel (I'm there 2-3 times a week). A guy presented an Amex black, and the agent asked him if he wants insurance on the card, I turned to my guy and was like 'huh? On an amex?' he said on a black.
U've'chain?
I don't think that there's coverage even on the black card.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2011, 02:50:01 AM
BTW how much mai'ser do we owe for using a credit card with free CDW in Israel?
;)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 02:52:19 AM
BTW how much mai'ser do we owe for using a credit card with free CDW in Israel?
;)
I believe ma'aser owes you, as most people wouldn't want to deal with an Israeli car rental agency unless they paid you
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 02:54:59 AM
http://travelbenefits.texterity.com/travelbenefits/centurion?pg=7&search_term=cdw&search_term=cdw#pg7

No asterisks or other exclusions listed
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2011, 03:01:45 AM
http://travelbenefits.texterity.com/travelbenefits/centurion?pg=7&search_term=cdw&search_term=cdw#pg7

No asterisks or other exclusions listed
Maybe, maybe not.  Still not proof.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 03:04:50 AM
Maybe, maybe not.  Still not proof.
The fact that an Israeli Avis agent took it and, unprovoked, ASKED if he wants it on the card is proof enough for me.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2011, 03:05:49 AM
The fact that an Israeli Avis agent took it and, unprovoked, ASKED if he wants it on the card is proof enough for me.
And will that same agent not do the same for a CO WMC?  How well trained are they?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 03:07:47 AM
And will that same agent not do the same for a CO WMC?  How well trained are they?
I have NEVER seen it offered for a CO WMC. At the very least it takes serious coaxing
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2011, 03:13:25 AM
I have NEVER seen it offered for a CO WMC.
I did...last May for me!
But that was before they stopped covering Israel.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 03:31:13 AM
I did...last May for me!
But that was before they stopped covering Israel.
Sorry, that was what I meant.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: abee on June 23, 2011, 07:34:48 AM
I believe the Capital One WMC covers in israel
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 08:08:32 AM
I believe the Capital One WMC covers in israel
Dan does not negotiate with terrorists.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: beej on July 13, 2011, 04:20:24 PM
Does the citi Diamond Preferred card cover CDW in israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: TheBFGfan on July 18, 2011, 08:13:22 PM
Citi thank you prefered WMC (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/typ/): yes. Its one of the only WMC that covers israel with no annual fee

The Citi Dividend Rewards WM is another one. I tried renting in Israel and at first they wouldn't give it to me until I brought in a Decleration of Coverage (or something like that). But even when I did bring it in they still wouldn't give in because it didn't say including israel. In the end I got the manager to call them directly and the rep. confirmed it.  ;D

PS it was hertz
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: skyguy918 on July 18, 2011, 08:56:51 PM
Hey Dan, can you please update this thread to show all types of cards that are still being reported to work for CDW in Israel? And maybe even a list of cards with no forex fee, or at least a separate thread with an updated list at the top?

Thanks!
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: TAVI on July 19, 2011, 12:06:36 AM
What about HSBC Premier WMC? it used to cover Israel, but not sure if the terms have changed recently, planning a trip to Israel soon and wanted to rent with the card...

Thanks
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: WAM on July 19, 2011, 04:59:09 AM
Bank of America Upromise WMC (https://www.bankofamerica.com/credit-cards/marketingdetail.action?context_id=marketing_detail&offer_id=ECOMM090UABH00506700155001EN000|2049822|BR) Yes (I'm pretty sure I asked them) (No annual fee)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on July 19, 2011, 07:29:00 AM
Bank of America Upromise WMC (https://www.bankofamerica.com/credit-cards/marketingdetail.action?context_id=marketing_detail&offer_id=ECOMM090UABH00506700155001EN000|2049822|BR) Yes (I'm pretty sure I asked them) (No annual fee)
Do you have it?
Can you check with this link: https://www.benefitinformationcenter.com/
I just checked my BofA WMC, and it says excluding Israel, even though they told me on the phone that it does cover
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Crazy tools on August 03, 2011, 06:34:40 AM
i have the sovereign bank world points WMC which does cover in Israel. On the papers they send in the mail with the card it says it covers. if u call benefit information center they say excluding Israel. I called MC Assist and i spoke to an insurance rep. he said it covers in Israel, and it will cover the deductable if i take out the insurance from the rental agency, he also said it becomes primary in Israel bec. my american insurance will not cover for Israel. Then he sent mw an email confirming that my card card covers collision in Israel with the master rental insurance.
Title: Car insurance in Israel and which credit cards will cover
Post by: njmacman on August 03, 2011, 08:35:11 PM
I have reveiwed numerous DD posts and am still confused. I have Amex Platinum, various CHase cards including Sapphire, and hopefully will get approved for Continental Presidential Plus card. Will any of these cover my car insurance in Israel? Sorry if this is repetitious, but I just can't find it here by searching. Thanks all!
Title: Re: Car insurance in Israel and which credit cards will cover
Post by: Avid Reader on August 03, 2011, 09:45:40 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8330.0
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: njmacman on August 15, 2011, 08:38:07 PM
How does this work with Citi Thank You Preferred WMC (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/typ/)? With the CO PP card I get Avis Presidents club with some benefits. DO I rent the car using the Citi preferred WMC so I don't have to pay the insurance? Can I mix and match? Or should I just try to get them to change my newly arrived CO PP card to a Business card? But it doesn't seem the Business card gives me Avis President's club? I am still confused. Thanks.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on August 15, 2011, 08:50:19 PM
How does this work with Citi Thank You Preferred WMC (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/typ/)? With the CO PP card I get Avis Presidents club with some benefits. DO I rent the car using the Citi preferred WMC so I don't have to pay the insurance? Can I mix and match? Or should I just try to get them to change my newly arrived CO PP card to a Business card? But it doesn't seem the Business card gives me Avis President's club? I am still confused. Thanks.
Take a deep breath.
CO PP gets you Avic PC.  You don't need to use the CO PP for the rental.  You are free to use the Citi TYP WMC which will cover your CDW in Israel.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: njmacman on August 15, 2011, 08:52:36 PM
Thanks. Sorry for hyperventilating :-)  ! I am applying for the Citi card now.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mendel72 on September 06, 2011, 05:06:00 PM
If I understand correctly, if you have a card that covers Israel you can decline CDW+TP, but you have to buy LI. However, if you don't have a card that covers Israel you have to buy CDW+TP, but you do NOT have to buy LI.

For the car I'm looking at (the cheapest automatic in Budget), CDW is $11, TP is $4, and LI is $12.

Does this mean that WMC coverage is only saving you $3 a day, or am I missing something?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: njmacman on September 06, 2011, 06:02:22 PM
Sorry, what is TP and what is LI?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mendel72 on September 06, 2011, 06:03:18 PM
TP - theft protection

LI - liability
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: njmacman on September 06, 2011, 08:46:16 PM
Why wouldn't you want to buy LI? Is it worth the few dollars more for the liability? My friend wasted over $2000 once because he was cheap.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mendel72 on September 06, 2011, 09:04:26 PM
As far as I  understand, if you buy CDW+TP, liability is already included. Otherwise they would have forced you to buy it.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: treo on September 07, 2011, 01:53:58 AM
I am going to Israel for Succos. I was just curious to see if my CITI VISA THANK YOU CARD has rental insurance. Turns out it does. It also covers in Israel. How do I know, I called and they sent me a proof of insurance letter, and explicitly stated it covers in Israel. I can send it to anyone who would like to see it, but I will block out my info.

Can this be? Will the rental places accept?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: skyguy918 on September 07, 2011, 02:30:39 PM
I just came back from a trip and I was all worried, because I wasn't able to get my Citi ThankYou card in time for the trip. Plus my backup was my HSBC Premier card, but when I called them they said it may exclude Israel and they couldn't provide documentation of coverage. So I went thinking I'd probably have to pay insurance. I used NoachCar and the car was from Hertz. I picked the car up at the airport and the guy took the HSBC Premier card without any questions, so I only had to pay TPPD.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on September 07, 2011, 02:32:56 PM
I just came back from a trip and I was all worried, because I wasn't able to get my Citi ThankYou card in time for the trip. Plus my backup was my HSBC Premier card, but when I called them they said it may exclude Israel and they couldn't provide documentation of coverage. So I went thinking I'd probably have to pay insurance. I used NoachCar and the car was from Hertz. I picked the car up at the airport and the guy took the HSBC Premier card without any questions, so I only had to pay TPPD.
Only problem is that if something had happened, you might have been stuck with the bill
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: skyguy918 on September 07, 2011, 03:07:26 PM
I guess so, but it sounded like the cc company was saying check with the rental company and the rental company was fine with me declining CDW and TP. It's definitely possible I could have gotten messed over but thankfully nothing happened, so it was ok.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: njmacman on September 07, 2011, 03:09:34 PM
My Avis Israel rep said she was familiar with the Thank You preferred card and it covering CDW/TP.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mendel72 on September 07, 2011, 03:45:45 PM
With the difference between the cost of CDW+TP and the cost of LI being so small, it could make sense to buy CDW+TP in any case just for the extra coverage.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on September 07, 2011, 03:52:47 PM
CDW+TP has a deductible.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mendel72 on September 07, 2011, 05:29:33 PM
Do you forfeit your credit card coverage by buying CDW+TP?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on September 07, 2011, 05:41:23 PM
Do you forfeit your credit card coverage by buying CDW+TP?
Yes.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mendel72 on September 07, 2011, 05:58:01 PM
Another question:

How much available credit do you need on your CC in order to rent a car in Israel? Do you need all of it to be on the WMC, or can you split it between cards?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on September 07, 2011, 06:06:37 PM
Another question:

How much available credit do you need on your CC in order to rent a car in Israel? Do you need all of it to be on the WMC, or can you split it between cards?
1 cc. Depends on the class and company but it's usually ~$500-800
Title: Re: Cards with cdw
Post by: Afight4ever on September 12, 2011, 08:01:48 AM
I tried renting a car in Jerusalem with my Continental Chase card and was told to contact MC for coverage, and MC told me they dont cover Israel so had to pay for it
Title: Re: Re: Cards with cdw
Post by: sky121 on September 12, 2011, 09:22:25 AM
I tried renting a car in Jerusalem with my Continental Chase card and was told to contact MC for coverage, and MC told me they dont cover Israel so had to pay for it

Either you have a different version of the Continental card- or the lady didn't exactly know what she was talking about. I called and got the same response, so I told the lady I had heard differently. She came back saying that yes I had a WORLD Mastercard so I did indeed have coverage and sent me out a letter stating so.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on September 12, 2011, 12:37:03 PM
I tried renting a car in Jerusalem with my Continental Chase card and was told to contact MC for coverage, and MC told me they dont cover Israel so had to pay for it

Either you have a different version of the Continental card- or the lady didn't exactly know what she was talking about. I called and got the same response, so I told the lady I had heard differently. She came back saying that yes I had a WORLD Mastercard so I did indeed have coverage and sent me out a letter stating so.
See OP.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: @jack123 on September 16, 2011, 05:01:39 PM
other citi MCW also have in israel, not just AA and thank you. citi dividend preferred mcw also has no exclusions, worldwide.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on September 16, 2011, 05:52:22 PM
I have the Travelocity AmEx (issued by Barclays) which states in Guide to Benefits "As an eligible Insured, you may receive reimbursement for repair or
replacement of the Rented Automobile as a result of Damage or Loss to the Rented
Automobile anywhere in the world."
https://www.mytravelocityrewards.com/app/ccsite/benefits/guide/F03-G514-9_Travelocity_AMEX_GTB_WebLO_0110.pdf (https://www.mytravelocityrewards.com/app/ccsite/benefits/guide/F03-G514-9_Travelocity_AMEX_GTB_WebLO_0110.pdf)

I called Barclays they confirmed every country is covered including Israel, but declined to provide a letter, saying it was unnecessary since the guide clearly states "anywhere in the world."

I am still unclear though how this helps save much? For example Thrifty Israel's T&Cs states:

To decline LDW & TPC, the renter must have a US issued World Master Card or Canadian issued Gold/Platinum Visa/MasterCard and provide WRITTEN PROOF that the card has relevant coverage for car rentals in Israel.
Nevertheless,if LDW & TPC are declined,Third Party Liability is mandatory in Israel as a minimum coverage to cover items that are not covered by the credit card company such as Blowouts, Tire/Trim damage not caused by Theft/Vandalism or
is not a result of vehicle collision.
Only US issued World Master Card or Canadian issued Gold/Platinum Visa/MasterCard can be used to waive LDW & TPC These cards will only be accepted for coverage for rental periods of less than 28 days in any calendar year.
If a relevant card and cover letter are not produced at time of commencement of rental, then LDW & TPC must be purchased.
Customers who choose to rely on their credit card for coverage are subject to an Administration Fee of USD15.00. This fee is to cover communication costs with the card holder company to establish cover for the processing of
claims and the supply of relevant information on rentals in case of damage.
If the LDW & TPC protection's are declined, a minimum security deposit of USD5000 will be required through the clients credit card to cover possible damage to the Thrifty and 3rd party vehicles, in addition to rental charges.
Maximum Security Deposit is up to the full value of the vehicle if the LDW & TPC protection's are declined.

The forced 3rd Party Liabilty + $15 Admin. fee mean you will very likely pay more by using a CCs coverage. I have glanced at other rental companies it seemed their terms are similar. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: RANDOMONE on October 26, 2011, 05:45:17 AM
i have the bank of america WMC and it covers israel ive used it...they will mail u a leeter to bring to the rental place stating they cover israel but its just annoying that they tack on the forex fee even for charging $! like my bill from hertz this summer was $410 with the WMC but i was charged $422:(     but a decent card to have since at least no annual fee so u can just keep it forever
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on October 26, 2011, 06:37:08 AM
i have the bank of america WMC and it covers israel ive used it...they will mail u a leeter to bring to the rental place stating they cover israel but its just annoying that they tack on the forex fee even for charging $! like my bill from hertz this summer was $410 with the WMC but i was charged $422:(     but a decent card to have since at least no annual fee so u can just keep it forever
How did you get the letter?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: RANDOMONE on October 26, 2011, 09:10:00 AM
call the number on back of card and they will put you through to WMC and they will email it to you.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 26, 2011, 09:18:15 AM
I just got back from Israel and successfully used my World Citi Mastercard and saved about $300 in insurance costs. Thanks.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Avid Reader on October 26, 2011, 10:44:18 AM
I just got back from Israel and successfully used my World Citi Mastercard and saved about $300 in insurance costs. Thanks.

With which rental company?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2011, 11:12:35 AM
Has anyone here attempted to get Chase to send them a Sapphire Preferred World Mastercard to replace their Visa?
Title: Re: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: BAHayman on October 26, 2011, 11:32:07 AM
Has anyone here attempted to get Chase to send them a Sapphire Preferred World Mastercard to replace their Visa?

Think it would cover israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
Think it would cover israel?
I think it would as Chase isn't using the agency that gives the free primary insurance for the Sapphire as they do with CO/UA.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 26, 2011, 02:10:16 PM
With which rental company?

Avis.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Avid Reader on October 26, 2011, 02:47:08 PM
Avis.

Did you have to put up a fight with them to let you use the cards insurance? IIRC, they're know for giving a very hard time with this.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 26, 2011, 05:27:37 PM
No, I had the letter with me from Headquarters (call in advance) which they never asked for since my agent took care of it in advance.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Avid Reader on October 26, 2011, 05:33:39 PM
No, I had the letter with me from Headquarters (call in advance) which they never asked for since my agent took care of it in advance.
Nice!
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 26, 2011, 09:18:34 PM
You just call MAster Assist/Master Rental at 1-800-622-7747 and tell them you need a letter of coverage. They ask you when you will be renting a car. The letter is good for 60 days. I also bring a copy of the benefit guide with me to be able to know the particulars. The best thing is to have your Avis agent yell at them beforehand that the coverage is good so that everything runs smoothly when you get there.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: clownaparte on October 27, 2011, 02:05:56 PM
What about HSBC Premier WMC? it used to cover Israel, but not sure if the terms have changed recently, planning a trip to Israel soon and wanted to rent with the card...

Thanks

Looking at the T&C of the HSBC Premier MC:

Quote
You may be unable to receive benefits in Australia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica and New Zealand. Please contact your vehicle rental agency before you travel.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on October 27, 2011, 02:47:02 PM
You may be unable to receive benefits in Australia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica and New Zealand. Please contact your vehicle rental agency before you travel.

I spoke to MC about this the other day. Their response was as far as they are concerned any WMC (it seems CO is different) covers cdw worldwide. The reason they have that disclaimer is because in those countries not all rental agencies allow you to use their coverage, therefore if a rental agency accepts any WMC then they accept all.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: lybbtthl on November 03, 2011, 03:00:55 AM
fixed the link for the Citi AA Consumer WMC
 
Chase Continental Consumer OnePass Plus WMC (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/onepass/): No (Does include primary CDW outside Israel)
Chase Continental Consumer Presidential Plus WMC (http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/content/products/chase/presidentialplus.aspx?offer=PPC95SC): No
Chase Continental Business WMC (http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/content/products/chase/smallbusiness.aspx?offer=BC25): Yes ($85 annual fee)
Chase Continental Business Presidential Plus WMC (http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/content/products/chase/businesspresplus.aspx?offer=PB00&mkid=619Z): Yes ($395 annual fee)

Citi Thank You Preferred WMC (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/typ/): Yes. (No annual fee)
Citi AA Consumer WMC (http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/earnMiles/beyondTravel/creditDebit/citiCredit.jsp): Yes ($85 annual fee)

Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: world2see on November 04, 2011, 08:19:45 AM
correct  me if i'm wrong but from what i understand from previous posts,even with a world mc you still have to take out li,which runs about $12 daily? or can i just walk into avis and only pay the rate i'm quoted online without any other charges?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on November 04, 2011, 08:35:47 AM
correct  me if i'm wrong but from what i understand from previous posts,even with a world mc you still have to take out li,which runs about $12 daily? or can i just walk into avis and only pay the rate i'm quoted online without any other charges?
You are correct
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on November 04, 2011, 09:01:03 AM
You are correct
+1
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: world2see on November 04, 2011, 09:17:12 AM
meaning i have to pay the il daily?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on November 04, 2011, 09:58:37 AM
meaning i have to pay the li daily?
Yup.
If you live here, than you have to add tax too. (The rate you are usually quoted doesn't include tax)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mordy788 on November 04, 2011, 02:26:42 PM
I am renting a car from in Israel from Hertz. Does the AA Advantage World Mastercard or Citi Dividend World Mastercard cover CDW in Israel?

Thanks
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: joeb1 on November 04, 2011, 04:37:55 PM
ummm..,.read a little ::)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: joeb1 on November 04, 2011, 04:38:30 PM
Chase Continental Consumer OnePass Plus WMC (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/onepass/): No (Does include primary CDW outside Israel)
Chase Continental Consumer Presidential Plus WMC (http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/content/products/chase/presidentialplus.aspx?offer=PPC95SC): No
Chase Continental Business WMC (http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/content/products/chase/smallbusiness.aspx?offer=BC25): Yes ($85 annual fee)
Chase Continental Business Presidential Plus WMC (http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/content/products/chase/businesspresplus.aspx?offer=PB00&mkid=619Z): Yes ($395 annual fee)

Citi Thank You Preferred WMC (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/typ/): Yes. (No annual fee)
Citi AA Consumer WMC: Yes ($85 annual fee)


i guess im just too nice
Title: Re: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 05, 2011, 07:19:48 PM
I believe the Capital One WMC covers in israel

+1

 I can confirm that, as I have once successfully filed a claim and been paid.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: WAM on November 06, 2011, 01:21:07 AM

i guess im just too nice

It's very likely that Mordy788 DID read the post that you quoted. But AA Advantage World Mastercard & Citi Dividend World Mastercard are not listed there.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: WAM on November 09, 2011, 05:52:55 AM
Are there any cards that Cover CDW AND have no annual fee AND have no forex fee?

Thanks!
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on November 09, 2011, 06:57:10 AM
Are there any cards that Cover CDW AND have no annual fee AND have no forex fee?

Thanks!
Cap 1.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: WAM on November 09, 2011, 04:25:56 PM
Cap 1.

Thanks, it's called the Cap 1 Cash Card.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: lybbtthl on November 16, 2011, 03:19:45 AM
Interesting to note, I just got my Citi AA WMC, and I was reading the T&C for the CDW and besides working everywhere, it's also for rentals up to 31 days as opposed to all other (AFAIK) MC and Visas' CDW benefit where it's only up to 15 days max.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: yossik on November 16, 2011, 04:54:56 PM
Does the usair wmc from barclays cover in Israel??
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: njmacman on November 16, 2011, 05:42:17 PM
I just contacted Capitalone- their Cash Card is a world mastercard, but they told me they do not cover in Israel.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: dwkl on November 16, 2011, 06:15:55 PM
the world mc just covers you for the cdw but not liability which is mandatory by all rental companies
am told that avis jerusalem romema location u can pay mezumin the bochurim get a special rate they handel with one of our cousins who work that location  and avoid the xtra insurance fees
should u need to rent longer then 2 weeks on the cards only offering max 15 day coverage  i know this a a travel agt) you can come in and return and take out the car do a new contract and start over giving you another 2 weeks 
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: dwkl on November 16, 2011, 06:18:19 PM
I just contacted Capitalone- their Cash Card is a world mastercard, but they told me they do not cover in Israel.
your bank maybe making a mistake as its world mastercard  dont think it has to do with which particular bank your card is associated with
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: njmacman on November 17, 2011, 12:29:45 AM
Maybe, but my Citibank world mastercard was really easy to use. They just charge a foreign transaction fee even though the price was dollars.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on November 17, 2011, 02:50:53 AM
your bank maybe making a mistake as its world mastercard  dont think it has to do with which particular bank your card is associated with
+1
I spoke to MC about this, and their response was if a rental agency accepts their coverage then you are covered. Simple as that.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2011, 10:18:49 AM
your bank maybe making a mistake as its world mastercard  dont think it has to do with which particular bank your card is associated with
100% untrue.
Banks can opt out of WMC coverage.  Chase did did with CO OPP and CO PP and I'm sure there are others as well.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 17, 2011, 10:51:15 AM
I just contacted Capitalone- their Cash Card is a world mastercard, but they told me they do not cover in Israel.

-1

Disagree. I filed a claim a year ago for an Israeli rental, and they paid in full. I have the Crapital One No Hassle Rewards %1.25 cash back card.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: dwkl on November 17, 2011, 01:38:21 PM
dan is right i just called co they reffered me to   benefits coordinator 877-361-0919 they indeed verified for me that they dont cover israel or ireland for the cdw coverage
     the rental companies though arent yet aware as im a travel agent and book cars in israel avis,hertz,sixt will let you take just the mandatory ins if you supply them with a world mc card  irregardless of which bank its associated with
now if one gets into an accident g-d forbid and needs to collect that may get them into hot water
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2011, 01:42:25 PM
dan is right i just called co they reffered me to   benefits coordinator 877-361-0919 they indeed verified for me that they dont cover israel or ireland for the cdw coverage
     the rental companies though arent yet aware as im a travel agent and book cars in israel avis,hertz,sixt will let you take just the mandatory ins if you supply them with a world mc card  irregardless of which bank its associated with
now if one gets into an accident g-d forbid and needs to collect that may get them into hot water
Even with a WMC I know Avis in TLV won't give the WMC the info they need to settle the claim and will therefore deny your claim.
I did a chargeback against Avis for the amount of the claimed (Read: BS) damages as they did not give the info required to WMC and won.

Of course had I not used a WMC that covered Israel I would have lost as the claim would have been denied due to Israel not being covered.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: elikay on November 17, 2011, 01:47:59 PM
@Dan
Is that an automatic Avis blacklist pass?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2011, 01:51:48 PM
@Dan
Is that an automatic Avis blacklist pass?
I've rented from Avis in the US since then.  I haven't been back to Israel so I don't know if I'm banned there...those kinds of experiences (amazing that all 3 people returning at that time had mysterious damages as well ::)) and dealing with the cluster#$%^ that the rental car facility is that caused me to nearly miss my flight are what make people not want to go back.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: businessmachine on November 17, 2011, 01:57:45 PM
Guys...just got a letter from chase with 2 new chase freedom cards for my wife and I. The letter said that the freedom cards are now WORLD MASTER CARDS...you think it will cover cdw in israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2011, 01:58:12 PM
Guys...just got a letter from chase with 2 new chase freedom cards for my wife and I. The letter said that the freedom cards are now WORLD MASTER CARDS...you think it will cover cdw in israel?
PUTPAC and get it in writing if affirmative.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Daniel on November 28, 2011, 02:51:47 PM
Is Chase Continental Business WMC: Yes ($85 annual fee)

Still true?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on November 28, 2011, 02:52:24 PM
Is Chase Continental Business WMC: Yes ($85 annual fee)

Still true?
AFAIK
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: satturn on November 28, 2011, 02:56:49 PM
i spoke directly to mastercard about my capitol1 cash WMC. they said it is fully covered in israel and they would gladly send me it in writing. I waiting to get the card here in the holy land to get it from them.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: robi on November 28, 2011, 06:01:29 PM
Haven't checked since last year, but my Canadian td platinum travel did cover in Israel.I spoke to the insurance company direct
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mordy788 on November 28, 2011, 06:27:48 PM
I have a Spirit World Mastercard from Bank of America. I called customer service and they said they cover the whole world, no country is excluded. I asked for it in writing that they will cover my rental in Israel. The representative told me that all I needed was a copy of my terms and conditions. She said that she didn't know how to get me a letter.

A CSR from Chase Saphire Preferred told me that it says on her computer that the reason Israel is not covered on their end is because "of the danger of roadside bombs."
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: shmooz on November 28, 2011, 07:18:42 PM
Got the Ink Classic card, looks from the terms that it does cover, but would check it out if i needed it.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Daniel on December 01, 2011, 03:16:35 PM
The Citi ThankYou® Preferred link on the OP says:

Apply for a Citi ThankYou® Preferred Visa® Card

Is there a link to the World MasterCard?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: presidentialplus on December 04, 2011, 02:17:36 PM
Does anybody know if the INK BOLD Business WMC card covers car rentals in Israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Saver2000 on December 04, 2011, 02:23:01 PM
Does anybody know if the INK BOLD Business WMC card covers car rentals in Israel?

I have the ink bold and it does not cover Israel.  How do I know if my card is WMC?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: presidentialplus on December 04, 2011, 02:28:17 PM
And how about the INK Classic WMC?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: presidentialplus on December 04, 2011, 04:48:06 PM
Does anybody know if the Chase Ink Classic card which is a WMC, covers Israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: WAM on December 05, 2011, 02:48:11 AM
And how about the INK Classic WMC?
Does anybody know if the Chase Ink Classic card which is a WMC, covers Israel?

PUTPAC
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Daniel on December 06, 2011, 05:10:34 PM
Anyone know which cards cover cdw in Israel and also have no foreign transaction fee?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 06, 2011, 05:18:57 PM
Anyone know which cards cover cdw in Israel and also have no foreign transaction fee?

RTFT...

 
Quote from: moldyearwax
Are there any cards that Cover CDW AND have no annual fee AND have no forex fee?

Thanks!

Cap 1.


+1

 I can confirm that, as I have once successfully filed a claim and been paid.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: steeeveknowsbest on December 07, 2011, 12:07:46 AM
i just got my letter from citi confirming that my citi dividend world mc does cover cdw in israel.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Daniel on December 07, 2011, 08:52:21 AM
RTFT...

RTT would suffice. But I was looking for a real credit card (chase, citi, amex) not Cap 1 . Do they still hit your credit report 3X and not report a credit line?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 07, 2011, 06:46:20 PM
RTT would suffice.

Why? What's wrong with "read the full thread"? :)

But I was looking for a real credit card (chase, citi, amex) not Cap 1 . Do they still hit your credit report 3X and not report a credit line?

'Fraid so. :(
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: clownaparte on December 07, 2011, 07:19:59 PM
RTT would suffice. But I was looking for a real credit card (chase, citi, amex) not Cap 1 . Do they still hit your credit report 3X and not report a credit line?

IME they have reported credit lines...
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: gozalim on December 07, 2011, 07:38:26 PM
so whoever got the Cap1 venture for $1000 may as well (at years end) convert it to a WMC?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mordy788 on December 07, 2011, 07:54:54 PM
i just got my letter from citi confirming that my citi dividend world mc does cover cdw in israel.

How did you go about getting the letter?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: David B on December 07, 2011, 08:24:09 PM
How did you go about getting the letter?

Call the customer service line on the back of the card, tell them you have a specific question about the car rental coverage and ask them for the number of the group that handles it.  WHen you speak to them, they can email or fax you the letter stating the conditions under which rentals are covered in Israel.  It's a group at Mastercard itself, not the issuing bank (i.e., not at Capital One or other issuer).
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mordy788 on December 07, 2011, 08:29:26 PM
Call the customer service line on the back of the card, tell them you have a specific question about the car rental coverage and ask them for the number of the group that handles it.  WHen you speak to them, they can email or fax you the letter stating the conditions under which rentals are covered in Israel.  It's a group at Mastercard itself, not the issuing bank (i.e., not at Capital One or other issuer).

Thanks so much. The Bank of America had no idea how to help me.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: steeeveknowsbest on December 08, 2011, 12:39:27 AM
Call the customer service line on the back of the card, tell them you have a specific question about the car rental coverage and ask them for the number of the group that handles it.  WHen you speak to them, they can email or fax you the letter stating the conditions under which rentals are covered in Israel.  It's a group at Mastercard itself, not the issuing bank (i.e., not at Capital One or other issuer).
+1
precisely what i did
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: YudiG on December 12, 2011, 06:47:18 PM
On the phone w/ MC and my Biz World CO card has no insurance in Israel?!

What do I do now?

Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mordy788 on December 13, 2011, 11:00:15 AM
I just got my letter from MasterCard Worldwide that my Spirit Airlines World MasterCard provides CDW coverage in Israel. I guess I have found one good thing about Spirit Airlines.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: YudiG on December 13, 2011, 11:16:22 AM
I just got my letter from MasterCard Worldwide that my Spirit Airlines World MasterCard provides CDW coverage in Israel. I guess I have found one good thing about Spirit Airlines.

WOW...can u post a copy?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mordy788 on December 13, 2011, 11:32:48 AM
WOW...can u post a copy?


Top has my Name and Credit Card number so I left that out.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o156/mordyys/Screenshot2011-12-13at112831AM.png)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: YudiG on December 13, 2011, 11:38:55 AM

Top has my Name and Credit Card number so I left that out.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o156/mordyys/Screenshot2011-12-13at112831AM.png)

Great! Is this the new MC World card from Spirit? I had the old one but it got converted to a Barclays card...if yes, I'm going to apply for this new one...alas, a solution!
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mordy788 on December 13, 2011, 11:42:49 AM
Yes It's the new World MasterCard from Spirit.

https://www.applyonlinenow.com/USCCapp/Ctl/entry?sc=VAA67F (https://www.applyonlinenow.com/USCCapp/Ctl/entry?sc=VAA67F)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on December 13, 2011, 12:03:29 PM
Great! Is this the new MC World card from Spirit? I had the old one but it got converted to a Barclays card...if yes, I'm going to apply for this new one...alas, a solution!
For $59/year? You know there are free WMCs out there.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: YudiG on December 13, 2011, 12:44:04 PM
For $59/year? You know there are free WMCs out there.

That cover Israel? I need a new one fast as the CO MC World Biz no longer covers....:(
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on December 13, 2011, 12:46:47 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/dividend/
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: YudiG on December 13, 2011, 12:51:53 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/dividend/

Nice. Do all Citi World MC's cover Israel? i.e. an AA Citi (either personal or Biz)? Does it apply to additional users or only primary?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on December 13, 2011, 12:56:05 PM
Nice. Do all Citi World MC's cover Israel? i.e. an AA Citi (either personal or Biz)? Does it apply to additional users or only primary?
All personal Citi WMC cover Israel AFAIK.
I think rental benefits always apply to all cardholders.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: YudiG on December 13, 2011, 01:05:15 PM
All personal Citi WMC cover Israel AFAIK.
I think rental benefits always apply to all cardholders.

Great! I will get added as a secondary and ask for a letter from citi confirming...thanks!
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: lybbtthl on January 24, 2012, 10:39:44 PM
FTR, Chase Continental Airlines Debit Card (no longer available - but for those who have it already) covers CDW in Israel, provided they let you rent on a debit card. It has the standard clause of "You may be unable to receive benefits in Australia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, and New Zealand. Please contact your vehicle rental agency before you travel." but no explicit exclusion of any country, and it's been established in other threads, that this clause is nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 25, 2012, 03:11:41 PM

Top has my Name and Credit Card number so I left that out.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o156/mordyys/Screenshot2011-12-13at112831AM.png)

 Who do you call for such a letter? The number on the back of your card, or 1-800-MC-ASSIST?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: am32 on January 25, 2012, 04:53:17 PM
Do any of the free WMCs have no forex fees?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on January 25, 2012, 04:57:32 PM
Do any of the free WMCs have no forex fees?
No, but Sapphire is free for a year (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/sapphire50k/) and can be downgraded to a free card or churned.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on January 25, 2012, 05:11:23 PM
No, but Sapphire is free for a year (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/sapphire50k/) and can be downgraded to a free card or churned.

I know you don't like Cap1, but it does exist.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on January 25, 2012, 05:26:22 PM
I know you don't like Cap1, but it does exist.
Lol, I do tend to tune out Crap1...
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Chaikel on January 25, 2012, 05:36:39 PM
Lol, I do tend to tune out Crap1...
Which is ironic, because technically crap is 2
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mendel72 on February 19, 2012, 12:11:29 PM
Does Citi have any free WMC now?

The link Dan gave on the previous page now leads to a Visa only application.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: JEWDA on February 19, 2012, 12:14:34 PM
Does Citi have any free WMC now?

The link Dan gave on the previous page now leads to a Visa only application.
https://www.citicards.com/cards/acq/Apply.do?app=UNSOL&sc=4XNIWLS2&m=2CAGZZZZZZW&langId=EN&siteId=CB&B=A&screenID=3001&ProspectID=pTJak5HtgtU4y1tiYW86fQDp6pJSi4pt
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mendel72 on February 19, 2012, 12:37:13 PM
https://www.citicards.com/cards/acq/Apply.do?app=UNSOL&sc=4XNIWLS2&m=2CAGZZZZZZW&langId=EN&siteId=CB&B=A&screenID=3001&ProspectID=pTJak5HtgtU4y1tiYW86fQDp6pJSi4pt

Thanks, but this is an AAdvantage card which carries an annual fee. My question is whether there is a free one.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: JEWDA on February 19, 2012, 01:57:07 PM
Thanks, but this is an AAdvantage card which carries an annual fee. My question is whether there is a free one.
No anual fee 1st year.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mendel72 on February 19, 2012, 02:02:40 PM
No anual fee 1st year.

I know this, but I have had this card in the past so I'm not sure I'll be able to get the annual fee waived again.

Any Citi WMC with no annual fee period?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: JEWDA on February 19, 2012, 02:11:37 PM
How about  CitiBusiness® World MasterCard (https://www.citicards.com/cards/acq/Apply.do?&app=UNSOL&sc=6HBZE3S2&m=1CAGZZZZZZW&langId=EN&siteId=BAO&B=A&screenID=3005&ProspectID=pPo9metW0r2lYC6DJpKqNYATXKTVKkKU)

Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: ashers on February 19, 2012, 03:18:36 PM
CSR at sapphire WMC  informed me this morning that they no longer cover CDW in Israel.
I asked to speak to a manager and she confirmed.
Can anyone debunk this?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on February 19, 2012, 03:21:18 PM
Call MasterRental, not Chase.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: MnM1130 on February 19, 2012, 04:19:32 PM
Which is ironic, because technically crap is 2
ok i laughed.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: njmacman on February 20, 2012, 08:28:18 AM
I have the world mastercard Sapphire preferred and received my letter of insurance from mastercard. You have to call before each trip and get the letter.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: netzih on February 20, 2012, 02:54:31 PM
Which Canadian cards cover cdw in Israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: lybbtthl on February 22, 2012, 11:10:06 PM
CSR at sapphire WMC  informed me this morning that they no longer cover CDW in Israel.
I asked to speak to a manager and she confirmed.
Can anyone debunk this?
just called and confirmed SP WMC CDW works in Israel, letter in the mail to me
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: compddd on February 23, 2012, 09:42:58 AM
What does CDW stand for?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Saver2000 on February 23, 2012, 09:55:36 AM
What does CDW stand for?

Collision damage waiver
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: aj26 on April 17, 2012, 11:07:11 AM
I  recieved t&c for wmc in mail today. It excludes Israel and is not primary.
I don't think citi preferred mc excludes israel and it has no foreign exchange fee
Title: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: lcyitz on April 17, 2012, 11:25:01 AM
Now chas vsholom if someone gets into an accident in isreal what exactly does cdw cover?

And is it hard to collect?

And is that what Amex covers in the us? 
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 17, 2012, 10:14:29 PM
HAA MC?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Saver2000 on May 22, 2012, 04:15:54 PM
I just called citi regarding my Aadvantage visa card. They said its a world card and it covers Israel.

Also, interesting to note, they benefits are provided by "citi insurance services", not visa.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: AsherO on May 22, 2012, 04:20:26 PM
I just called citi regarding my Aadvantage visa card. They said its a world card and it covers Israel.

Try to get in writing that Israel is included.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Deal Guy on May 22, 2012, 04:35:27 PM
If I convert my Sapphire Preferred visa to a preferred mastercard, will it cover israel, like dan wrote on the main site, or is that not the case?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on May 22, 2012, 05:03:39 PM
If I convert my Sapphire Preferred visa to a preferred mastercard, will it cover israel, like dan wrote on the main site, or is that not the case?

I just returned a car here in Israel that was rented and insured with my SP WMC.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: AsherO on May 22, 2012, 05:04:51 PM
I just returned a car here in Israel that was rented and insured with my SP WMC.

You're sure it was CDW coverage?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on May 22, 2012, 05:18:37 PM
You're sure it was CDW coverage?

Yup. I called mastercard before and they told me if the rental company accepts it then as far as they're concerned I'm covered. They said the reason the credit cards come with those disclaimers (saying "might not be covered") is because the rental companies might not accept it but if they do then you're covered. Iv'e rented from both hertz and avis here and they accepted CDW from the WMC. However the other insurance that WMC usually covers (I forgot what it's called now) they won't accept and you have to take it from them.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 02, 2012, 05:28:26 PM
Yup. I called mastercard before and they told me if the rental company accepts it then as far as they're concerned I'm covered. They said the reason the credit cards come with those disclaimers (saying "might not be covered") is because the rental companies might not accept it but if they do then you're covered. Iv'e rented from both hertz and avis here and they accepted CDW from the WMC. However the other insurance that WMC usually covers (I forgot what it's called now) they won't accept and you have to take it from them.

-1

My friend rented from Avis Israel using a Visa Signature without taking CDW (by mistake), and they let it through. As someone who is at 3 times a week, I've heard them say more than once that it's not automated - it is up to the customer to know their card covers CDW or not.

As for the "other insurance" you have to take... that is LI (liability insurance), which no CC covers. Ever.

Sorry... :P
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 02, 2012, 05:30:32 PM
CSR at sapphire WMC  informed me this morning that they no longer cover CDW in Israel.
I asked to speak to a manager and she confirmed.
Can anyone debunk this?

Consider it debunked - I just got my check in the mail two weeks ago for a claim filed for an accident in Jerusalem at the end of April.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Hiding on June 13, 2012, 08:26:58 AM
Does an AU on a WMC get the same coverage as well? I was told that there covered, I just wanna confirm if that's correct b4 I rent.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Crazy tools on June 13, 2012, 12:49:38 PM
yes an authorized user has coverage to.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 20, 2012, 08:23:51 PM
yes an authorized user has coverage to.

+1

My aforementioned check was for a rental using a SP WMC on which I am an AU. :)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: shmooz on July 02, 2012, 02:40:31 PM
When you rent and dcline the cdw they will still charge liability, on my last rental from avis the liability was 55nis and the cdw was 63 nis. I think the cdw includes liability - so by using a card that covers cdw am i only saving 8 nis??
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Hiding on July 02, 2012, 02:50:07 PM
When you rent and dcline the cdw they will still charge liability, on my last rental from avis the liability was 55nis and the cdw was 63 nis. I think the cdw includes liability - so by using a card that covers cdw am i only saving 8 nis??
I think that is correct, but with a WMC there is no deductible, which is a massive plus.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: sruly101 on July 02, 2012, 02:55:26 PM
its not always the same!!
i save on every day renting with a world master card abt 20nis
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: shmooz on July 02, 2012, 03:04:38 PM
I think that is correct, but with a WMC there is no deductible, which is a massive plus.

good point, if you take their cdw you still have a $500 or $600 responsibility, unless you take coverage to waive that...Ok I'm convinced to stick with the wmc.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: miked on July 06, 2012, 12:52:03 AM
I applied for and received a Chase Sapphire Preferred World MasterCard based on the recommendations here for my trip to Israel. No issue at all with my rental. The hertz folks were aware of the coverage and auto-declined the coverage for me and explained it was covered by my card at the rental counter. No fuss at all.

Before leaving, I did call and request a letter for proof of coverage. No issues there either. They emailed it to me within an hour, though I never needed it, in the end.

I was apprehensive as to how difficult it would be to get the rental with the insurance declined, but it was very simple. I was expecting a hard push to pay for it!
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Centurion on July 06, 2012, 12:40:08 PM
sometimes if you take their insurance ( not from the cc)
a. dedustable
b. the cc might NOT be your second covererage either. check with your cc
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: RJ898 on July 09, 2012, 01:24:05 PM
My AU just booked a car with his SP WMC. The rep started telling him that the card doesn't cover Israel.

Good to know I can still come here and get accurate info!
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on July 09, 2012, 03:02:46 PM
My AU just booked a car with his SP WMC. The rep started telling him that the card doesn't cover Israel.

Good to know I can still come here and get accurate info!

Where was this?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on September 22, 2012, 04:39:04 PM
Hello,
i just wanted to know whats the average rate on renting a car in Israel like a good price per day Mazda 3 or similar (mainly looking into Avis)?
Also has anyone have experience in Israel of getting an upgrade in Avis PC?
Thanks
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 22, 2012, 05:13:26 PM
Hello,
i just wanted to know whats the average rate on renting a car in Israel like a good price per day Mazda 3 or similar (mainly looking into Avis)?
Also has anyone have experience in Israel of getting an upgrade in Avis PC?
Thanks
Hey buddy... not only are you in the wrong thread, you're in the wrong section altogether. :o

Looky here: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?board=18.0
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on September 23, 2012, 07:51:03 PM
So i have the chase SP world matercard

i know it works in israel, however my question is for how many days will i be covered, 15, 30 or more?

this question goes to rentals in the US as well
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 23, 2012, 08:10:29 PM
So i have the chase SP world matercard

i know it works in israel, however my question is for how many days will i be covered, 15, 30 or more?

this question goes to rentals in the US as well
IIRC 31.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on September 23, 2012, 08:20:45 PM
IIRC 31.

ty

is there anyway online that it would say that?

I called master rental he said he THINKS its 31 but could not say for sure
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on September 23, 2012, 10:03:53 PM
ty

is there anyway online that it would say that?

I called master rental he said he THINKS its 31 but could not say for sure
Call back, tell them which 31 days you'll be gone and ask for a letter of coverage.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on September 23, 2012, 11:39:58 PM
Call back, tell them which 31 days you'll be gone and ask for a letter of coverage.

I am looking for coverage on a rental here in NYC, will that work as well?
Title: Re: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Ergel on September 24, 2012, 01:42:02 AM
I am looking for coverage on a rental here in NYC, will that work as well?
Of course. However it will be secondary coverage, if you have car insurance. AFAIK the only cc with primary coverage is the united mileage plus card
Title: Re: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Saver2000 on September 24, 2012, 01:53:26 AM
Of course. However it will be secondary coverage, if you have car insurance. AFAIK the only cc with primary coverage is the united mileage plus card
. . . Or the IB if you are renting for business purposes.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 24, 2012, 03:16:57 AM
ty

is there anyway online that it would say that?

I called master rental he said he THINKS its 31 but could not say for sure
Do you still have the paperwork that came with your card?

If not, call the number on the back of your card and ask them to send you a guide and the T&Cs for your card benefits.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on September 24, 2012, 09:54:20 AM
31 days of coverage only applies outside your home country.  Otherwise it's just 15.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on September 24, 2012, 11:38:18 AM
Of course. However it will be secondary coverage, if you have car insurance. AFAIK the only cc with primary coverage is the united mileage plus card

Amex as well but it costs $19 per rental
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on September 24, 2012, 11:39:02 AM
31 days of coverage only applies outside your home country.  Otherwise it's just 15.

That's what i was afraid of

is there anyway of verifying this, aside from waiting until they send me again the card paperwork?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Saver2000 on September 24, 2012, 11:46:26 AM
Amex as well but it costs $19 per rental
Isn't it $25?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Saver2000 on September 24, 2012, 11:46:53 AM
That's what i was afraid of

is there anyway of verifying this, aside from waiting until they send me again the card paperwork?
Maybe they can email you a letter of coverage?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 24, 2012, 11:55:31 AM
Isn't it $25?
They have 2 plans to choose from.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: lybbtthl on September 24, 2012, 04:24:09 PM
any world elite mc's cover israel? like ink plus?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Blazer on October 18, 2012, 01:26:24 PM
I just spoke to master card, and was told that my Worldchase Saphire Master Card, would cover insurance in Israel, but would not cover liabilty, what does that mean (she told me that if I hit another car I will be responsible) is that correct, and I guess I would have to take out coverage to cover liabilities, so i'm not gaining anything by renting with my World master Card.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: WhyAich on October 18, 2012, 01:33:26 PM
I just spoke to master card, and was told that my Worldchase Saphire Master Card, would cover insurance in Israel, but would not cover liabilty, what does that mean (she told me that if I hit another car I will be responsible) is that correct, and I guess I would have to take out coverage to cover liabilities, so i'm not gaining anything by renting with my World master Card.

no CC covers liability
only collision and yes this card does cover collision (which is usually excluded for israel rentals)

be sure to get an email with this information sent to you so that i at the counter you encounter problems (and you could) you will have the info as proof that you are covered.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Blazer on October 18, 2012, 01:40:02 PM
How much is liabilty in Israel per day Approx
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 18, 2012, 07:04:07 PM
How much is liabilty in Israel per day Approx

Ballpark figure? $12.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: m65 on October 18, 2012, 08:12:43 PM
hope im not repeating.
i have a citi aadvantage mcw bronze card which covers israel (i've been paid for claims) no annual fee
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 20, 2012, 10:04:52 PM
Do you have a liunk for the Citi Aadvantage MCW bronze card? Do they give miles?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: sruly on December 04, 2012, 10:55:25 AM
I called MC to get a letter of coverage for my sapphire card and they told me that my ink bold also covers israel
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on December 04, 2012, 10:57:37 AM
I called MC to get a letter of coverage for my sapphire card and they told me that my ink bold also covers israel
Ink cards are only for bona-fide business rentals though IIRC.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: RJ898 on December 04, 2012, 11:42:26 AM
End of the day, when I get to the counter at SIXT tomorrow with my SP WMC, how much extra will the rental cost me in insurance?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: chilzech on December 04, 2012, 01:14:13 PM
which sixt? king david or romema?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: RJ898 on December 04, 2012, 01:16:04 PM
Airport
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: chilzech on December 04, 2012, 01:24:22 PM
used SP WMC in J'lem yesterday with no probs. But you never know, this is still israel!
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 04, 2012, 01:30:35 PM
used SP WMC in J'lem yesterday with no probs. But you never know, this is still israel!

I use my SP WMC three times a week in Israel. ;)

That doesn't mean it actually covers anything - heck, I had a friend whose father insisted that his Visa Signature covers CDW/TP, and they let him sign the waiver. One busted taillight later, he was out a coupla hundred shek.

What does mean it covers anything, is if the card's benefits administrator confirms that it does - and in the case of the SP WMC, we have many such confirmations.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: moko on December 04, 2012, 01:35:47 PM
Ink cards are only for bona-fide business rentals though IIRC.
correct. but so is general spending on the card (officially)  ;)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 04, 2012, 01:37:39 PM
correct. but so is general spending on the card (officially)  ;)

True... but putting personal expenses on a business card will not cost you many thousands of dollars.

Having MasterRental deny your claim for a totaled rental car because you made a personal rental on a business card will.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on December 04, 2012, 10:41:23 PM
True... but putting personal expenses on a business card will not cost you many thousands of dollars.

Having MasterRental deny your claim for a totaled rental car because you made a personal rental on a business card will.
Bingo.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: chff on December 05, 2012, 10:56:16 AM
I called up Chase Sapphire Preferred, got transferred to MC and got all the info, told that only covers CDW but not LI. And this ths by email
Quote
Date: XX/XX/XXXX
RE: Account Number XXXXX********XXXX
Dear XXXX XXXX,
Thank you for your recent inquiry regarding the MasterRental® coverage associated with your MasterCard® World
Card.
This letter confirms that your World MasterCard® Card provides MasterRental® coverage. Therefore, vehicles
rented with your card are eligible for coverage in Israel. Please note that the coverage is subject to the terms and
conditions of the MasterRental® program.
Please refer to the MasterRental® Guide to Benefits for a complete listing of the terms, conditions and
exclusions associated with this program. This letter is in effect for 60 days from the date of issuance.
If you need to file a claim under the MasterRental® program, please visit us at www.mycardbenefits.com or call
us at 1-877-354-8330.
Sincerely,
Robert Brewer
MasterCard Assistance Center
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: moko on December 05, 2012, 11:53:39 PM
I called up Chase Sapphire Preferred, got transferred to MC and got all the info, told that only covers CDW but not LI. And this ths by email
correct
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 06, 2012, 02:14:13 AM
Nobody covers LI. Ever.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: bands on December 06, 2012, 10:50:42 PM
Can someone please post the link to sign up for Sapphire World Mastercard?  Or another card that doesn't charge foreign transactions fees and that covers the insurance for car rental in Israel?  I can only find the sapphire visa link.  Does the Freedom world mastercard charge foreign transcation fees?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Saver2000 on December 06, 2012, 10:56:44 PM
Can someone please post the link to sign up for Sapphire World Mastercard?  Or another card that doesn't charge foreign transactions fees and that covers the insurance for car rental in Israel?  I can only find the sapphire visa link.  Does the Freedom world mastercard charge foreign transcation fees?
You can sign up for the visa and then request to have it converted to an MC.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: bands on December 07, 2012, 12:21:49 AM
how soon after I apply should i call to have it converted to the wmc?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: yitzyul on December 10, 2012, 01:42:09 PM
Does citi world master cover israel if I'm an AU, or only for the primary holder?
Thank you
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: andrew on December 10, 2012, 06:16:12 PM
Anyone know if us airways world mastercard barclay covers?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on December 11, 2012, 03:37:49 AM
Does citi world master cover israel if I'm an AU, or only for the primary holder?
Thank you
IME AUs are covered with all cards. Regardless, best is to have it in writing just in in case C"V something happens.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: gunit770 on December 11, 2012, 12:09:46 PM
Does anybody know if the US Airways World Mastercard from barclays has Israel CDW coverage?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 11, 2012, 12:16:22 PM
Does anybody know if the US Airways World Mastercard from barclays has Israel CDW coverage?

Paging JEWDA... REPOST!!!! ;D

Just two posts before:
Anyone know if us airways world mastercard barclay covers?

And my answer to both of you is... PUTPAC.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on December 17, 2012, 10:49:37 PM
How about this card

Barclaycard Arrival World MasterCard

https://www.barclaycardus.com/apply/Landing.action?campaignId=1730&cellNumber=9&REFERRERID=IM247877091
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: yitzyul on December 21, 2012, 12:48:32 AM
Wondering if anybody heard of them, and/or if the car rental in Israel would actually accept them?

Pretty decent price of $50 (Euros) for a year, plus you can get an enhancement to increase the 31 day limit

https://www.questor-insurance.co.uk/buy-insurance/hire-car-hire-excess.aspx
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: yitzyul on December 21, 2012, 12:49:05 AM
Does anybody have a link or the actual Citi world MC polic that show Israel is covered?
Thank You
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on December 23, 2012, 12:50:35 AM
Wondering if anybody heard of them, and/or if the car rental in Israel would actually accept them?

Pretty decent price of $50 (Euros) for a year, plus you can get an enhancement to increase the 31 day limit

https://www.questor-insurance.co.uk/buy-insurance/hire-car-hire-excess.aspx


but only to 60 days max
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: yitzyul on December 23, 2012, 01:39:24 AM

but only to 60 days max
-1
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 23, 2012, 08:04:32 AM
Wondering if anybody heard of them, and/or if the car rental in Israel would actually accept them?

Pretty decent price of $50 (Euros) for a year, plus you can get an enhancement to increase the 31 day limit

https://www.questor-insurance.co.uk/buy-insurance/hire-car-hire-excess.aspx

I would be quite shocked if you could use that in Israel. Even if you're technically supposed to be able to, I can't see the Israeli agents letting you...
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on December 25, 2012, 03:16:15 PM
Can anyone confirm the United WMC covers Israel? I have a customer insisting he called twice and they said it doesn't cover.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 25, 2012, 06:32:18 PM
Can anyone confirm the United WMC covers Israel? I have a customer insisting he called twice and they said it doesn't cover.

CSR is actually right for a change. :(
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on December 29, 2012, 09:24:03 PM
Does it need to be sapphire preferred or can it just be plain sapphire Mc?
I have plain sapphire visa right now cuz I didn't wanna pay the annual fee
I also have ink bold but I don't want to take chances as its not a business trip
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on December 29, 2012, 09:33:12 PM
Does it need to be sapphire preferred or can it just be plain sapphire Mc?
I have plain sapphire visa right now cuz I didn't wanna pay the annual fee
I also have ink bold but I don't want to take chances as its not a business trip
It must say "World" above or below the Mastercard logo.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on December 29, 2012, 09:58:50 PM
Does it need to be sapphire preferred or can it just be plain sapphire Mc?
I have plain sapphire visa right now cuz I didn't wanna pay the annual fee
I also have ink bold but I don't want to take chances as its not a business trip
It should still be world.
You will pay Forex with non-preferred.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on December 29, 2012, 10:43:06 PM
It should still be world.
You will pay Forex with non-preferred.
Besides for the car I can avoid forex by using the ib
For my 8 day trip it only adds around 40$ to just get cdw from the rental company
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on December 29, 2012, 10:46:44 PM
Besides for the car I can avoid forex by using the ib
For my 8 day trip it only adds around 40$ to just get cdw from the rental company
CDW from the company comes with a deductible.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on December 29, 2012, 11:01:11 PM
CDW from the company comes with a deductible.
In that case,,, hocker can u tell me the deductible from ur company?
As long as they don't try and make up scratches to reach the deductible....
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on December 29, 2012, 11:04:08 PM
As long as they don't try and make up scratches to reach the deductible....
They always do :P
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: yitzyul on December 29, 2012, 11:14:12 PM
Does anybody have a link or the actual Citi world MC polic that show Israel is covered?
Thank You

I googled world Mastercard rental policy and its stating that the policy does NOT cover Israel for CDW. Is CItibank's World card different? DOes any body have a link to their policy??

https://content.usaa.com/mcontent/static_assets/Media/MCWorldGuide.pdf
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 30, 2012, 05:47:31 AM
It should still be world.
You will pay Forex with non-preferred.

Ummmmmm...

Does it need to be sapphire preferred or can it just be plain sapphire Mc?
I have plain sapphire visa right now cuz I didn't wanna pay the annual fee
I also have ink bold but I don't want to take chances as its not a business trip
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on December 30, 2012, 06:08:05 AM
I would be quite shocked if you could use that in Israel. Even if you're technically supposed to be able to, I can't see the Israeli agents letting you...
I have friends who have used such type of excess insurances succesfully.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on December 30, 2012, 02:40:40 PM
In that case,,, hocker can u tell me the deductible from ur company?
As long as they don't try and make up scratches to reach the deductible....
Aprox $500. (Forgot exact amount.)

P.S. If they are making up scratches I will personally get involved. #thehockeradvantage
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on December 30, 2012, 08:28:09 PM
Aprox $500. (Forgot exact amount.)

P.S. If they are making up scratches I will personally get involved. #thehockeradvantage
Glad to hear that.

Ummmmmm...

I have plain sap visa and will change it to plain sap mc but only if plain mc is considered world...
I don't want to start a new sap pref card at the moment
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on December 31, 2012, 01:06:16 PM
It should still be world.
You will pay Forex with non-preferred.

you can use to reserve the car, and at return if no damage just pay with other card that has no forex
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on December 31, 2012, 05:03:30 PM
you can use to reserve the car, and at return if no damage just pay with other card that has no forex
not a bad idea. i have to call chase to see if the plain sap mc is considered world hence giving free cdw in israel
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on December 31, 2012, 05:04:53 PM
you can use to reserve the car, and at return if no damage just pay with other card that has no forex
Did not work when I tried that at hertz.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 31, 2012, 07:02:48 PM
Did not work when I tried that at hertz.

+1

Officially*, the rule is that if you take CC insurance, you must pay with either that CC, or cash. They will not let you switch to a different CC.

* Like everything else in this game, there are workarounds...
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on December 31, 2012, 07:14:39 PM
+1

Officially*, the rule is that if you take CC insurance, you must pay with either that CC, or cash. They will not let you switch to a different CC.

* Like everything else in this game, there are workarounds...
Next question is how much the forex would be from chase on a 250 purchase?
I can weigh the option of no forex but pay for cdw or free cdw and pay the forex.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: nutcase on December 31, 2012, 07:47:02 PM
hi I have the sp wm before I fly to tlv I have seen mentioned that it is good to bring along proof of coverage. where can obtain this proof? I asked chase they sent me about travel protection lost luggage etc..  thank you
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on December 31, 2012, 10:38:45 PM
+1

Officially*, the rule is that if you take CC insurance, you must pay with either that CC, or cash. They will not let you switch to a different CC.

* Like everything else in this game, there are workarounds...

if you are really desperate call chase before return to block the card, if it's denied i would assume they should agree to take other card
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: nutcase on January 01, 2013, 12:53:23 AM
if you are really desperate call chase before return to block the card, if it's denied i would assume they should agree to take other card
huh? they put a hold on your card when you pick up the vehicle how would blocking or closing the card help that would defeat the purpose. no?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 12:59:57 AM
Did not work when I tried that at hertz.
Worked for me...or maybe it was budget...don't remember.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on January 01, 2013, 01:09:33 AM
huh? they put a hold on your card when you pick up the vehicle how would blocking or closing the card help that would defeat the purpose. no?

after pickup before return. that hold expires after a few days
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 01, 2013, 02:21:48 AM
if you are really desperate call chase before return to block the card, if it's denied i would assume they should agree to take other card

Bad idea. Companies such as Avis Israel only process the charge at the end of the day, after you've left - but at the time of return, it will seem to go through.

To them, this will look like an attempt to get out of paying - and they'll permanently blacklist you.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on January 01, 2013, 05:35:23 PM
Bad idea. Companies such as Avis Israel only process the charge at the end of the day, after you've left - but at the time of return, it will seem to go through.

To them, this will look like an attempt to get out of paying - and they'll permanently blacklist you.

you can always call after to give them new cc don't really see the big problem here unless you have experience with this
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: presidentialplus on January 06, 2013, 02:33:01 PM
 Finally a WMC with no Forex and no annual fee.

Barclaycard Arrival World MasterCard (https://www.barclaycardus.com/apply/Landing.action?campaignId=1730&cellNumber=9&REFERRERID=IM247877091)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on January 06, 2013, 02:51:36 PM
Finally a WMC with no Forex and no annual fee.

Barclaycard Arrival World MasterCard (https://www.barclaycardus.com/apply/Landing.action?campaignId=1730&cellNumber=9&REFERRERID=IM247877091)
Umm, cap1 has been around for quite some time...
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Nitantnel on January 11, 2013, 10:16:17 AM
Just to note, WMC only covers Card members and AU (that are also listed on the rental agreement). They will not cover a spouse if she's not an AU even if she's on the rental agreement.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: how on January 12, 2013, 01:28:40 PM
Just to note, WMC only covers Card members and AU (that are also listed on the rental agreement). They will not cover a spouse if she's not an AU even if she's on the rental agreement.
Where did you see that?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 12, 2013, 01:31:12 PM
Where did you see that?

+1?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 12, 2013, 01:39:08 PM
Just to note, WMC only covers Card members and AU (that are also listed on the rental agreement). They will not cover a spouse if she's not an AU even if she's on the rental agreement.
I can't tell you where  but I remember reading that it covers anybody that is authorized to drive the car (which makes sense). 

Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Danny29 on January 14, 2013, 03:20:35 PM
I know this must have been asked thousands of times, but i cant find it. Does amex platinum cover car rental insurance in Israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 14, 2013, 07:37:59 PM
I know this must have been asked thousands of times, but i cant find it. Does amex platinum cover car rental insurance in Israel?

No.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Blazer on January 20, 2013, 10:09:21 AM
I sent an email to MC and they told me that the sapphire World master card covers Israel. I looked at the agreement (I'm attaching) and it says it's not covered. What is correct.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on January 20, 2013, 10:13:12 AM
I sent an email to MC and they told me that the sapphire World master card covers Israel. I looked at the agreement (I'm attaching) and it says it's not covered. What is correct.
The attachment is for Master Cards not for World Master Cards.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on January 20, 2013, 12:14:52 PM
I sent an email to MC and they told me that the sapphire World master card covers Israel. I looked at the agreement (I'm attaching) and it says it's not covered. What is correct.
You need to call Master Rental and they'll email you a letter of coverage.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: moish on January 20, 2013, 12:28:22 PM
You need to call Master Rental and they'll email you a letter of coverage.
anyone have a copy of that email they can attach?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on January 20, 2013, 12:34:53 PM
"Thank you for your recent inquiry regarding the MasterRental® coverage associated with your MasterCard® World Card.

This letter confirms that your World MasterCard® Card provides MasterRental® coverage. Therefore, vehicles rented with your card are eligible for coverage in Israel. Please note that the coverage is subject to the terms and conditions of the MasterRental® program.

Please refer to the MasterRental® Guide to Benefits for a complete listing of the terms, conditions and exclusions associated with this program. This letter is in effect for 60 days from the date of issuance.

If you need to file a claim under the MasterRental® program, please visit us at www.mycardbenefits.com or call us at 1-877-354-8330.


Sincerely,
Robert Brewer
MasterCard Assistance Center "
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Blazer on January 20, 2013, 03:27:17 PM
"Thank you for your recent inquiry regarding the MasterRental® coverage associated with your MasterCard® World Card.

This letter confirms that your World MasterCard® Card provides MasterRental® coverage. Therefore, vehicles rented with your card are eligible for coverage in Israel. Please note that the coverage is subject to the terms and conditions of the MasterRental® program.

Please refer to the MasterRental® Guide to Benefits for a complete listing of the terms, conditions and exclusions associated with this program. This letter is in effect for 60 days from the date of issuance.

If you need to file a claim under the MasterRental® program, please visit us at www.mycardbenefits.com or call us at 1-877-354-8330.


Sincerely,
Robert Brewer
MasterCard Assistance Center "
Dan,
I don't get it, they sent me a few months ago the same email, so how come in the "Guide " it says that it's not covered.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on January 20, 2013, 03:30:16 PM
Dan,
I don't get it, they sent me a few months ago the same email, so how come in the "Guide " it says that it's not covered.
Check again, does it say not  covered or may not cover? Big difference...
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on January 20, 2013, 03:43:09 PM
Check again, does it say not  covered or may not cover? Big difference...
The sapphire booklet says may not cover
The booklet is chases coverage but when you call for car coverage they refer you to direct Master Card coverage
I just looked and called last night and Mastercard does cover cdw.
 
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: rebdude on January 20, 2013, 05:20:47 PM
anybody know about frontier card from barclays world mastercard covering in Israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: d234 on January 25, 2013, 12:30:14 AM
I see that citi preferred thank you world master card is listed as covered..any one know if citi thank you NOT  preferred wmc also works? Thanks
Title: Re: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Wolf on January 25, 2013, 01:44:41 AM
I just looked and called last night and Mastercard does cover cdw.
I also noticed in the book that came with my newly converted wmc sapphire that it will not cover as primary if you already have insurance at home, is this also not true?
Title: Re: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Saver2000 on January 25, 2013, 01:50:52 AM
I also noticed in the book that came with my newly converted wmc sapphire that it will not cover as primary if you already have insurance at home, is this also not true?
Depends. In the USA your own car insurance is primary.  Outside the USA (including Canada?)  the SP is primary.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: dardas on January 27, 2013, 12:30:01 PM
FYI -- Here is my experience after renting in Israel and making a repair claim with the Chase Sapphire Preferred World Mastercard.   

Bottom line:   Getting the Sapphire Preferred card was well worthwhile, especially after we suffered some accident damage to the car.

But note:   The big savings was not up front on the insurance fees (see #2 below).    It was in avoiding the rental company's CDW high deductible ($600! -- see point "C" in "Lessons learned" below) after we returned the car with some minor body damage.   

Since this forum was so helpful to me, I'll share our experience in detail, for those interested.   Car rental in general, and especially in Israel, is full of scams, last minute charges, outrageous insurance fees, and more.   It's utterly "Buyer Beware."     To avoid getting screwed, you have to do a lot of homework, unfortunately.   

Here's our experience: 

1) We applied for and received a Chase Sapphire Preferred World MasterCard.   We also obtained from them a written (email) letter confirming coverage in Israel, which we brought with us to Israel.

2) We confirmed, in advance, from Budget that they would honor the Mastercard coverage, but discovered -- to our chagrin -- that if we waived the $14/day (!) CDW and $5/day Theft Protection, then they would force us to buy "Third Party Liability Insurance ($14/day).    So the net savings on insurance was only $5/day.     (Lesson learned:   Check everything in advance before you depart.   And don't be fooled by low rental rates; the fees, insurance and taxes more than doubled our daily rental cost.)

3) We received no hassle from the Budget Rental counter at Ben Gurion airport.   They readily accepted the Mastercard coverage, allowed us to refuse the CDW & Theft Protection, but then forced us to buy TP Liability.

4) The rental went fine.   But one dark night, while backing up in a dirt parking lot filled with construction material, we nicked the tailight, breaking a lense and scratching the paint on the bumper cover.

5) When we returned the car, they said they would immediately charge us an "estimated cost of repair" -- to make sure we didn't cancel our credit card before they charged us.   IN the end, they didn't do that, but 2 weeks later our card was charged for $772 for the tailight, bumper paint repair. 

6) We filed a claim through Mastercard's claim service manager, Sedgewick.   We had to upload various documents, to Sedgewick's website, which was tedious but uneventful.    Getting Budget in Israel to send us an itemized bill required a phone call to Israel.

7) 2 weeks after submitting all the documents, we see that Sedgewick as issued a $666 reimbursement.   Presumably, this will soon be posted as a credit to our credit card balance.
Why not the full $772?    Because -- in yet one more scam -- Budget charged us $106 for the "assessors report" (i.e. the estimate), which Sedgewick has (so far at least) not reimbursed.

Lessons learned:

A) Don't be fooled by low rental rates.    The rental for our car was only $22/day, but all the fees and insurance -- even after refusing CDW -- brought the total to over $45/day!   (including extra driver, GPS rental).

B) Rental car companies in general, but Israel in particular, will nickle-and-dime you to death.   You really ahve to keep asking questions BEFORE you rent the car, and read all the fine print.

C) The high deductible of Budget's CDW -- not the lower insurance cost -- is what makes the Sapphire Preferred Card so valuable.   Though we only saved $5/day on insurance sold by Budget, we saved the $600 deductible that Budget would ahve charged us for the damage.   We only learned about this by emailing Budget several times, before we left, to clarify the "fine print."
Budget call's their deductible "NWR" or  "Non Waiverable Responsibility", and describe this way:

"The NWR is referred to as the Non Waiverable  Responsibility, or "deductible". In the event you purchase the Collision Damage Waiver (CDW), you may be charged up to $600.00 USD."

D) The 40,000 free points when signing up for the Sapphire Preferred Card is redeemable for cash.
We requested, and received, a check for $437 upon our return.   ($400 bonus plus $37 = 1% of the $3700 we spent on the card).    According to MasterCard, there is no penalty for cancelling the card before 12 months (i.e. before the $95 annual fee kicks in).    MasterCard told us "people do that all the time."

Bottom line:    A pain, but for a few hours of hassle we saved:

1.    $65 on a 13-day rental for rental insurance, by refusing the CDW and Theft
2.   $600 on the NWR (deductible with a CDW) for the damage repair
3)  $437 -- cash reward for 40K bonus points, plus 1% of $3700
4)  $113 saved by avoid the 3% "foreign exchange transaction fee" charged by our other credit cards.
5)  minus $37 in cash reward points we lost by not using our Fidelity Signature Visa credit  card, which pays 2% in case rewards.

Am I missing anything here?   

Approx $1141 savings for perhaps 7 hours of online/telephone work from start to finish.    Worth it?   You decide.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Saver2000 on January 27, 2013, 12:39:02 PM
Thanx for sharing. Didn't know there was such a thing as a deductible on CDW insurance that you purchase from the rental agency.

Regarding the $437 for your UR points, all i can say is  :'( :-X
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: d234 on January 27, 2013, 11:09:54 PM
Would anyone know if citi world mc (not preferred) is covered?? After unsuccessfully reading the benefits i cant figure it out..The # of the rental company for the card told me they cover in Israel provided the rental car company agrees...WHAT DOES THAT MEAN??? Any help would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 28, 2013, 05:29:23 AM
D) The 40,000 free points when signing up for the Sapphire Preferred Card is redeemable for cash.
We requested, and received, a check for $437 upon our return.   ($400 bonus plus $37 = 1% of the $3700 we spent on the card).

Wow. What a mind-blowing waste of perfectly good points. :o

 

Am I missing anything here?

Yes, a lot. Start reading the rest of the Credit Cards board, and you'll soon learn what a pathetic waste it is to redeem UR points for 1 penny each.

Hamakom yenachem eschem - we are sorry for your loss... :'(
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2013, 11:36:17 AM
Dispute the $106 with Chase.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: shimzah on February 04, 2013, 01:34:12 PM
i am having trouble finding some info on this forum, can anyone help?

I am going to Israel on wed for a few days.
Are either of these MC that i have good to rent a car with, ink business or the mileage plus explorer?
Is it safe to drive from yerushalayim to kever rochel, chevron, har menuchos and har hazeisim?
if not, are there buses on friday or sunday that go there?
Anything to know about renting in Israel, besides the mandatory insurance?
was anyone able to use miles to upgrade to business on delta from a T class ticket?
thanks so much,
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on February 05, 2013, 06:46:09 AM
i am having trouble finding some info on this forum, can anyone help?

1. I am going to Israel on wed for a few days.
2. Are either of these MC that i have good to rent a car with, ink business or the mileage plus explorer?
3. Is it safe to drive from yerushalayim to kever rochel, chevron, har menuchos and har hazeisim?
4. if not, are there buses on friday or sunday that go there?
5. Anything to know about renting in Israel, besides the mandatory insurance?
6. was anyone able to use miles to upgrade to business on delta from a T class ticket?
thanks so much,
1. Nice
2. Check if it says World above the Master card logo. (If it's a Visa it won't cover)
3. KR and Har Hamenuchos - Yes.
4. Yes
5. Yes, that hocker is the best  ;)
6. Wrong thread
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: M on February 11, 2013, 07:05:31 AM
Just wanted to double check the CITI PReferred Thank you card, world mastercard does cover Israel?

On a side note has anyone found it easier to just pay the insurance on a short rental just not worth the headaches?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on February 11, 2013, 07:16:33 AM

On a side note has anyone found it easier to just pay the insurance on a short rental just not worth the headaches?
Depending on the type of car it is usually $2-10 more a day. On larger cars it can sometimes be a bigger difference.

The advantage of the WMC insurance is the fact that there's no deductible, whereas the providers insurance has a $400+ deductible. The disadvantage is that it can sometimes be a hassle to get the CC to pay/cover.

If you PM me your dates I would be glad to advise you of your options.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: sky121 on February 13, 2013, 06:46:04 PM
Does the USAirways world Mastercard cover rental insurance in Israel?


And will it cover insurance if the added user is an Israeli with an Israeli license?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 13, 2013, 06:59:08 PM
And will it cover insurance if the added user is an Israeli with an Israeli license?

Doesn't matter. If it covers, it covers anyone who can legally drive the car.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on February 13, 2013, 10:47:09 PM


And will it cover insurance if the added user is an Israeli with an Israeli license?
Keep in mind adding an aditional driver who's an Israeli might require you to pay 17% VAT on the whole rental.

OT I love those customers that ask "How much will the 17% VAT add-on?" Dude, your phone doesn't have a calculator?!
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: sky121 on February 13, 2013, 11:16:04 PM
Keep in mind adding an aditional driver who's an Israeli might require you to pay 17% VAT on the whole rental.

OT I love those customers that ask "How much will the 17% VAT add-on?" Dude, your phone doesn't have a calculator?!
Doesn't matter. If it covers, it covers anyone who can legally drive the car.

Just to make my question clear the main guy renting is the Israeli with no US license. I just want to add him to my CC as an added user so he will have a World Mastercard for when he rents. 


As for the 17% I have to pay that as well when I rent myself and while I do pull out a calculator when needed I much prefer to be quoted a price IN TOTAL!  :)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on February 14, 2013, 02:24:49 AM
Just to make my question clear the main guy renting is the Israeli with no US license. I just want to add him to my CC as an added user so he will have a World Mastercard for when he rents. 


As for the 17% I have to pay that as well when I rent myself and while I do pull out a calculator when needed I much prefer to be quoted a price IN TOTAL!  :)
1. I'm not sure in a WMC would help an Israeli, being that the WMC rates are officially only for US citizens. Paging @MoisheBatchy

The reason I don't quote VAT is that 95% of the renters asking for rates do not pay VAT, making that the TOTAL. Usually if the reservation is not from TLV I let the person know about the VAT  just in case he has an IL student visa, or is an I'll citizen.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 14, 2013, 03:31:18 AM
1. I'm not sure in a WMC would help an Israeli, being that the WMC rates are officially only for US citizens. Paging @MoisheBatchy

 I don't see why it would be a problem...
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on February 14, 2013, 09:59:16 PM
Does the ink bold Master Card world elite cover CDW in israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on February 26, 2013, 09:51:54 AM
Does the ink bold Master Card world elite cover CDW in israel?
No. Ink is covered by chase not Mastercard. I just did this research.
For israel u need Mastercard to cover you
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Menucha on February 26, 2013, 10:59:12 AM
Moishy, would wmc cover spouse driving, if spouse name is not on same CC?
Does spouse have to be listed on rental agreement?

for everyone else, here is some of my research:
quote of Hertz on line, on phone US number, including a Airline discount or AAA discount, would total SAME as the frum vendors listed here net of their shabbos discount. in other words, daily rate directly from Hetrz would be lower, and you end up paying same. (and get 75 miles per rental day, minimum, now. check your email for triple miles from Delta start today+ bonus points).

So if you like to support our vendors, it will not cost you more (other than a few miles), but not LESS either. please correct me if I am wrong. and I am all for giving Parnassah to our own.

Insurance:
 if you use WMC CDW waiver ($17 a day - includes more than CDW?) , Hertz demands that you take TP and Liability, total of $14 a day.
Phone rep said airport people may ask for more (on what? she said its all listed on contract, pre printed with rates), so she advised on getting reservation before arriving to aiport.

Anything I am missing?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on February 26, 2013, 11:16:27 AM
@Menucha Your findings may hold true for WMC holders, for non WMC holders the agent's rate would be cheaper.
 

I didn't understand paragraph 2&4 of your post and I would be glad to help you. Feel free to PM me your # if you wish to discuss.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 26, 2013, 02:52:10 PM
Moishy, would wmc cover spouse driving, if spouse name is not on same CC?
Does spouse have to be listed on rental agreement?

WMC covers anyone who is legally allowed to drive the car. In the US, where spouse is generally automatically included, the spouse would be covered even if (a) not on the CC and (b) not on the rental, since they are "allowed to drive the car".

In Israel, the spouse would have to be on the rental, but would then be covered by WMC regardless of whether they are an AU or not.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on February 26, 2013, 02:57:58 PM
Moishy, would wmc cover spouse driving, if spouse name is not on same CC?
Does spouse have to be listed on rental agreement?

for everyone else, here is some of my research:
quote of Hertz on line, on phone US number, including a Airline discount or AAA discount, would total SAME as the frum vendors listed here net of their shabbos discount. in other words, daily rate directly from Hetrz would be lower, and you end up paying same. (and get 75 miles per rental day, minimum, now. check your email for triple miles from Delta start today+ bonus points).

So if you like to support our vendors, it will not cost you more (other than a few miles), but not LESS either. please correct me if I am wrong. and I am all for giving Parnassah to our own.

If you book with Hertz online, I think you can still get the shabbes fee waived at pickup, CMIIW.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: m65 on February 28, 2013, 05:28:00 PM
does the chase saphire mc world NON PREFFERED cover israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: SearchGuy on March 13, 2013, 04:44:51 PM
Any WMC with no annual fee with CDW coverage in Israel available today?
I found this one
http://www.barclaycardarrival.com/premium-travel/?REFERRERID=IM247877091&campaignId=1730&cellNumber=9
Does it cover in Israel???

Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on March 13, 2013, 05:08:46 PM
Any WMC with no annual fee with CDW coverage in Israel available today?
Sapphire non-preferred.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on March 13, 2013, 06:47:41 PM
The following Discover cards (accepted in Israel as Diners' Club (https://www.discover.com/credit-cards/help-center/faqs/middle-east.html)) cover CDW/LDW in Israel: More, Open Road, Miles, Motiva. None have annual fees.
Policy link (https://www.discover.com/credit-cards/member-benefits/security/travel-assistance/assets/More_Motiva_Miles_OpenRoad_Combined-Scheduled_Air_CDWDOC.pdf)

I updated the wiki (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=4830.0) in the On The Road forum
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on March 14, 2013, 12:47:00 AM
The following Discover cards (accepted in Israel as Diners' Club (https://www.discover.com/credit-cards/help-center/faqs/middle-east.html)) cover CDW/LDW in Israel: More, Open Road, Miles, Motiva. None have annual fees.
Policy link (https://www.discover.com/credit-cards/member-benefits/security/travel-assistance/assets/More_Motiva_Miles_OpenRoad_Combined-Scheduled_Air_CDWDOC.pdf)

I updated the wiki (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=4830.0) in the On The Road forum
Never confirmed this, but I once had a customer who said the provider he used didn't accept Diners Club / Discover.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 14, 2013, 12:59:31 AM
Never confirmed this, but I once had a customer who said the provider he used didn't accept Diners Club / Discover.

And that provider would be...?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on March 14, 2013, 01:28:45 AM
And that provider would be...?
I don't recall but it might have been Avis.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: SearchGuy on March 14, 2013, 12:23:39 PM
Sapphire non-preferred.
What credit line does it require?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on March 14, 2013, 12:24:34 PM
Require? I have a $500 limit on my preferred card.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: mgarfin on March 14, 2013, 12:48:52 PM
Require? I have a $500 limit on my preferred card.

saying the preferred and non preferred cover cdw in Israel (Sapphire)

Am I missing something ?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: sfasemes on March 14, 2013, 01:21:23 PM
Yes.  Just get a letter from M/C and present it at car rental place.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 14, 2013, 01:24:24 PM
What credit line does it require?

Avis takes a deposit of $800-$1000. Other rental companies do similar. So you'll need at least that much.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: SearchGuy on March 14, 2013, 03:48:46 PM
And what about the Barclaycard Arrival?
http://www.barclaycardarrival.com/premium-travel/?REFERRERID=IM247877091&campaignId=1730&cellNumber=9

This is what it says in the benefits guide:
Where you are covered:
In general, coverage applies worldwide, but there are exceptions:
> You may be unable to receive benefits in Australia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, and
New Zealand. Please contact your vehicle rental agency before you travel.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on March 15, 2013, 02:10:06 PM
And what about the Barclaycard Arrival?
http://www.barclaycardarrival.com/premium-travel/?REFERRERID=IM247877091&campaignId=1730&cellNumber=9

This is what it says in the benefits guide:
Where you are covered:
In general, coverage applies worldwide, but there are exceptions:
> You may be unable to receive benefits in Australia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, and
New Zealand. Please contact your vehicle rental agency before you travel.

would love to know this as well
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 16, 2013, 10:55:07 PM
PUTPAC. Ask for a letter of coverage.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Let3 on March 17, 2013, 09:07:24 AM
Yes.  Just get a letter from M/C and present it at car rental place.
If you have a sp wmc do you need this letter?
Is it better to have?
What's easiest way to obtain?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 17, 2013, 09:13:46 AM
If you have a sp wmc do you need this letter?
Is it better to have?
What's easiest way to obtain?

IME, Avis and Hertz have never actually demanded the letter itself. If you want to be extra safe, you can always call the number on the back of your card, and ask for the Benefits Administrator, then ask him/her/it to email it to you. B'shaas hadchak, you can then show it to the rental place on your iPhone.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Let3 on March 17, 2013, 11:47:09 AM
Perfect!
Thank you again!
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: mgarfin on April 12, 2013, 10:08:26 AM
And what about the Barclaycard Arrival?
http://www.barclaycardarrival.com/premium-travel/?REFERRERID=IM247877091&campaignId=1730&cellNumber=9

This is what it says in the benefits guide:
Where you are covered:
In general, coverage applies worldwide, but there are exceptions:
> You may be unable to receive benefits in Australia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, and
New Zealand. Please contact your vehicle rental agency before you travel.

Dan clams they cover
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on April 12, 2013, 10:12:03 AM
Call Masterrental to get a letter of coverage.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: njmacman on April 12, 2013, 11:02:05 AM
I always call and get the letter from MasterCard when I go to Israel. It was interesting that I was in israel for Pesach and am going again next week- when I called this week for a new letter they said the original one was good for 60 days. If course total rental cant be more than 31 days.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mikeoracle on April 12, 2013, 11:47:49 AM
I just called for a letter of coverage for my SP MC.
Their Direct # for the benefits administrator is 1800-622-7747
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: aryeh1 on April 14, 2013, 12:56:25 AM
I have the citi premier wmc. Will that work?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on April 14, 2013, 08:01:47 AM
I have the citi premier wmc. Will that work?
PUTPAC and it's always best if you have a written confirmation from them.
Title: World MasterCard rental coverage in israel.
Post by: mmmizme on April 24, 2013, 09:02:38 AM
I have a ink bold that says its a MasterCard world elite, and both chase and MasterCard told me that they don't cover collision in israel. Any ideas? I was under the impression that all world mastercards cover that?
Title: Re: World MasterCard rental coverage in israel.
Post by: robi on April 24, 2013, 09:10:46 AM
 There's a dedicated thread, just do a search
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: mgarfin on April 24, 2013, 02:41:02 PM
the wiki now states

Barclaycard Arrival World Mastercard no longer covers Israel

Is this confirmed?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2013, 02:48:31 PM
the wiki no states

Barclaycard Arrival World Mastercard no longer covers Israel

Is this confirmed?
Supposedly Barclay has taken over benefits on their cards and it's no longer provided by Mastercard World :(
Feel free to call and confirm that.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: mgarfin on April 24, 2013, 03:34:35 PM
Supposedly Barclay has taken over benefits on their cards and it's no longer provided by Mastercard World :(
Feel free to call and confirm that.

Just got approved for arrival for my trip to Israel, so can't call as I did not get the card yet

Any other options except SPMC
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2013, 03:46:38 PM
Just got approved for arrival for my trip to Israel, so can't call as I did not get the card yet

Any other options except SPMC
SPMC is the best option left.
Who knows when Chase will take it over as well :P
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: yitzyul on April 24, 2013, 03:55:36 PM
PUTPAC and it's always best if you have a written confirmation from them.

Yes. I was there a few months ago and received a letter in writing. All Citi MC cards that say "World" cover Israel
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2013, 03:58:02 PM
Yes. I was there a few months ago and received a letter in writing. All Citi MC cards that say "World" cover Israel
But then you pay Forex.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: mgarfin on April 24, 2013, 04:19:03 PM
SPMC is the best option left.
Who knows when Chase will take it over as well :P

I did some research and I can also go for spirit WMC from BOA (but will pull in NY TU which Barkley's pulled)

P.S. MC website still has all barkley's cards as WMC but will call when I get the card
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: mgarfin on April 24, 2013, 04:21:07 PM
But then you pay Forex.

just pay in cash when returning car
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2013, 04:22:13 PM
just pay in cash when returning car
Then you lose out on 2.14x UR :D
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: mgarfin on April 24, 2013, 04:32:00 PM
Then you lose out on 2.14x UR :D

good point
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on April 24, 2013, 06:17:50 PM
But then you pay Forex.

At Avis, at least, if you use the right rate codes, it gets billed in USD and there is no forex fee.

There's also a loophole that works sometimes, but that's not for public discussion. ;)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: M on April 25, 2013, 12:25:21 AM
Just got a recent coverage letter from the Citi Thank You Preferred WMC.  8)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: shmooz on May 30, 2013, 11:32:55 AM
 got a  coverage letter for the Citi Cash Returns WMC. Dont even know if they still market that card, I have it about 6 years no annual fee. You pay the 3% fee but it may be cheaper than keeping the SP MC just for this purpose. Can use other cards for no forex for other expenses.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2013, 11:43:53 AM
Has anyone called MasterRental about the Ink cards?
Does the letter of coverage really say it's for business purposes only?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on May 30, 2013, 01:26:22 PM
From the Guide to Benefits:

Quote
What type of coverage is this?
Auto rental CDW is primary coverage. In other words, when your rental is primarily for business purposes, you do not have to claim from any source of insurance before receiving coverage under the benefit. However, if you are on a personal trip and you use your Business card to rent a covered vehicle, Business Auto Rental CDW supplements, and applies excess of any valid and collectible insurance or reimbursement benefits from any source. Etc.
It seems you are covered just that it's not primary.

However, unlike other cards that say may not cover in Israel, this one states in bold:
Quote
No benefit is provided for motor vehicles rented in Israel...
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: sruly101 on May 30, 2013, 02:07:19 PM
Im using my junky Citi Dividend WMC in Israel and it works (by Elbar)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on May 30, 2013, 02:35:52 PM
Im using my junky Citi Dividend WMC in Israel and it works (by Elbar)
I'm soon due for a churn on my SP and will then resort back to using my good ole Cap1 WMC.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: shmooz on May 30, 2013, 08:17:18 PM
got a  coverage letter for the Citi Cash Returns WMC. Dont even know if they still market that card, I have it about 6 years no annual fee. You pay the 3% fee but it may be cheaper than keeping the SP MC just for this purpose. Can use other cards for no forex for other expenses.

Came home and found in the mail my cap one was upgraded to a wmc, which as the previous poster said does cover and has no forex, this seems to be the best alternative to the chase sp mc.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 30, 2013, 09:14:06 PM
Im using my junky Citi Dividend WMC in Israel and it works (by Elbar)

-1

The fact that the rental agency accepts it means nothing - they can't tell the difference between one WMC and another. Heck, I know someone who they let decline CDW/TP on a Visa Signature. :o (B"H he "only" busted a taillight, which he paid for in cash.)

You'd better find out if it actually covers, or you may CH"V be in for a nasty surprise if something happens.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 03, 2013, 01:06:13 PM
Do car rental places in Israel let you change the CC after the rental?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on June 03, 2013, 01:07:39 PM
Do car rental places in Israel let you change the CC after the rental?
Usually not, but YMMV IME
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on June 03, 2013, 01:09:07 PM
IME at hertz if you decline CDW then you can't change the CC.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: raccah on June 03, 2013, 02:07:51 PM
The Ink MC or SP MC - are the primary insurers, or are they secondary? Meaning you still need to drop 20+ bucks a day on the CDW?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 03, 2013, 02:14:02 PM
Secondary in the US.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: raccah on June 03, 2013, 02:17:35 PM
So, in Israel with the SP MC, you are still required to pay some CDW or NONE at all? That is my question - sorry for being so obtuse in my writing! :(
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on June 03, 2013, 02:20:12 PM
So, in Israel with the SP MC, you are still required to pay some CDW or NONE at all? That si my question - sorry for b eing obtuse in my writing! :(
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: raccah on June 03, 2013, 02:24:46 PM
Cool so no CDW or third party liability either? Does this apply to all car rental companies in Israel, or will some give you a hard time? I heard at Ben Gurion - you are almost forced - even with a SP MC?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on June 03, 2013, 02:37:57 PM
Cool so no CDW or third party liability either? Does this apply to all car rental companies in Israel, or will some give you a hard time? I heard at Ben Gurion - you are almost forced - even with a SP MC?
Liability is always required.
Not all companies allow you to decline CDW.
Don't know.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on June 03, 2013, 04:05:46 PM
Cool so no CDW or third party liability either? Does this apply to all car rental companies in Israel, or will some give you a hard time? I heard at Ben Gurion - you are almost forced - even with a SP MC?
Liability is always required.
Not all companies allow you to decline CDW.
+1
If you book through an agent, he should be able to reverse the charge if they forced you into it. IME (as an agent ;)) Avis, Budget and Thrifty won't force you to buy CDW.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: PPM on June 05, 2013, 04:25:48 AM
What wmc are available now without an annual fee, or the best one.
thanx
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 05, 2013, 06:11:38 AM
If you take CDW/TP, you don't have to take LI (since it's "included"). If you decline CDW/TP, you have to pay for LI. In some cases, even though CDW/TP is $15, LI can be $12, so instead of saving $15 you're only saving $3.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on June 05, 2013, 07:51:56 AM
If you take CDW/TP, you don't have to take LI (since it's "included"). If you decline CDW/TP, you have to pay for LI. In some cases, even though CDW/TP is $15, LI can be $12, so instead of saving $15 you're only saving $3.
Yea, but if something  were to happen that required an insurance payout, there is no deductible...
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: PPM on June 05, 2013, 12:23:51 PM
is chase saphire not preferred covered in Israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: judahk88 on June 05, 2013, 12:24:23 PM
is chase saphire not preferred covered in Israel?
No
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: raccah on June 05, 2013, 12:47:52 PM
Sorry to bug you guys again, but a friend of mine who just was in Israel, said that he used the Sapphire preferred MC and did not pay CDW or liability, is he mistaken? Used Hertz at Lod Airport.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on June 05, 2013, 01:53:12 PM
Sorry to bug you guys again, but a friend of mine who just was in Israel, said that he used the Sapphire preferred MC and did not pay CDW or liability, is he mistaken? Used Hertz at Lod Airport.
He paid CDW but not Liability. Guaranteed.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: raccah on June 05, 2013, 01:55:33 PM
I will check with him, but either way, if this is the case - these cards are not helping that much - are they? A 3 dollar savings is money, but this is not the metzia I was hoping for.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on June 05, 2013, 02:10:12 PM
I will check with him, but either way, if this is the case - these cards are not helping that much - are they? A 3 dollar savings is money, but this is not the metzia I was hoping for.
Depends on Company and the car, I have seen $5-25 differences per day.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: money spender #4 on June 05, 2013, 02:30:54 PM
i just had the sapphire visa and got the 40k signup bonus and just switced to be a mastercard now. will i be able to get the 40k signup bonus again?  or is it used up since i just had it with visa
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Shmulyg on June 05, 2013, 07:30:44 PM
i just had the sapphire visa and got the 40k signup bonus and just switced to be a mastercard now. will i be able to get the 40k signup bonus again?  or is it used up since i just had it with visa
You will be able to get it again. Please post in the proper thread next time. TIA!
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 05, 2013, 07:45:40 PM
You will be able to get it again. Please post in the proper thread next time. TIA!

-1

The conversion alone will not earn a bonus.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 05, 2013, 07:46:31 PM
Yea, but if something  were to happen that required an insurance payout, there is no deductible...

True. I was talking strictly about the bottom line price on the rental, though.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 05, 2013, 11:16:58 PM
is chase saphire not preferred covered in Israel?
Yes if it is World, though you will pay forex.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Shmulyg on June 06, 2013, 01:26:55 AM
-1

The conversion alone will not earn a bonus.
I was not talking about the conversion... and neither was he, IMHO.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 06, 2013, 03:09:21 AM
I was not talking about the conversion... and neither was he, IMHO.

To me it appeared he was.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Zevwolf on June 09, 2013, 01:07:30 PM
Does thankyou prefered world mastercard cover israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2013, 01:13:37 PM
Does thankyou prefered world mastercard cover israel?
Yes.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 09, 2013, 06:14:26 PM
Make sure to get a letter of coverage from them.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: ilherman on June 11, 2013, 10:22:36 PM
a friend of mine just rented a car in isreal with his ink card.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 11, 2013, 10:29:25 PM
So?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: ilherman on June 11, 2013, 11:51:49 PM
So?
sorry didn't write clear..  and the ink card covered his insurance.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Saver2000 on June 12, 2013, 12:04:58 AM
sorry didn't write clear..  and the ink card covered his insurance.
He was in an accident and it covered?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: ilherman on June 12, 2013, 08:37:36 AM
He was in an accident and it covered?
no...... it was albar
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: m65 on June 12, 2013, 09:39:52 AM
Yes if it is World, though you will pay forex.
even if rental agency charges in dollars?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2013, 09:42:00 AM
Usually if you pay on dollars they charge a fee at the store level.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: m65 on June 12, 2013, 09:46:08 AM
Usually if you pay on dollars they charge a fee at the store level.
what do u mean by store level?
ive been renting cars for years on my citi mcw and have never been charged forex, the charge goes thru in dollars
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 12, 2013, 11:01:39 AM
sorry didn't write clear..  and the ink card covered his insurance.

Read the thread, little one. You have much to learn:

-1

The fact that the rental agency accepts it means nothing - they can't tell the difference between one WMC and another. Heck, I know someone who they let decline CDW/TP on a Visa Signature. :o (B"H he "only" busted a taillight, which he paid for in cash.)

You'd better find out if it actually covers, or you may CH"V be in for a nasty surprise if something happens.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Red on June 12, 2013, 11:49:34 AM
what do u mean by store level?
ive been renting cars for years on my citi mcw and have never been charged forex, the charge goes thru in dollars
Usually at a lower exchange rate...
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Yordai Dooma on June 15, 2013, 11:13:39 PM
i need to apply for a card that will cover CDW in Israel. Can someone recommend one?
The only option in the wiki is not an option as i dont have an open chase SP at the moment
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 16, 2013, 12:03:33 AM
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/AA40
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Yordai Dooma on June 16, 2013, 12:28:37 AM
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/AA40
was thinking i would need to do that.
im sure its posted somewhere ...but how long after cancelling a citi AA card can i open a new one (getting the bonus again would be an added bonus ;) )
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Shmulyg on June 16, 2013, 01:52:43 AM
was thinking i would need to do that.
im sure its posted somewhere ...but how long after cancelling a citi AA card can i open a new one (getting the bonus again would be an added bonus ;) )
It doesn't work by canceling, but by how long since your last approval. It's usually recommended to wait 12-18 months. If you get approved, you'll get the bonus.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: sruly101 on June 16, 2013, 01:39:26 PM
Had a interesting story today in Elbar , rented out a car and ask them to honor my World credit card and to decline the CDW and she said ok, now i see on my contract that im paying total for a day only $13!! :o  and i see that im not paying for Liability either...

Can i have a problem with it, or its her mistake
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: how on June 16, 2013, 02:20:29 PM
how do you know ur not paying liability?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: sruly101 on June 16, 2013, 03:59:54 PM
how do you know ur not paying liability?
Because normal on the contract it says $.. for the car and $.. for insurance (even when i take the CDW from my CC)

And $13 in no price for a day its way to cheap even the agent told me it will be $25
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on June 27, 2013, 11:44:59 AM
Important Notice: Starting next week Hertz in Israel will be enforcing their policy that unless the customer provides written confirmation from his or her CC company stating that they cover CDW in Israel, they will be required to purchase CDW.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2013, 12:18:33 PM
Important Notice: Starting next week Hertz in Israel will be enforcing their policy that unless the customer provides written confirmation from his or her CC company stating that they cover CDW in Israel, they will be required to purchase CDW.
Source?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on June 27, 2013, 12:19:40 PM
Source?
Email from the corporate office.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on July 03, 2013, 01:49:08 AM
Anyone ever use Discover to rent a car in Israel? Do all the companies accept them?

No Forex and it covers CDW in Israel.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on July 03, 2013, 08:37:59 AM
Anyone ever use Discover to rent a car in Israel? Do all the companies accept them?

No Forex and it covers CDW in Israel.
Interesting, I had the same question yesterday and comfirmed with Hertz Israel that they accept it and it covers CDW. I can't talk for Avis or Thrifty though.

Avis desk agent says they'll take it but you got to be willing to trust her...
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on July 03, 2013, 02:29:15 PM
Anyone ever use Discover to rent a car in Israel? Do all the companies accept them?

No Forex and it covers CDW in Israel.

I Have tried using a discover card in Israel in the past and no one would accept it
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on July 03, 2013, 03:42:41 PM
I Have tried using a discover card in Israel in the past and no one would accept it
Which provider did you try?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: U-no-me! on July 03, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Barcalys M&M doesn't cover israel, correct?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on July 03, 2013, 03:52:46 PM
Barcalys M&M doesn't cover israel, correct?
PUTPAC WMC.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: U-no-me! on July 03, 2013, 04:40:02 PM
PUTPAC WMC.
Barcalys M&M doesn't cover israel, correct?

And that would be a No  :(
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Dan on July 03, 2013, 04:54:40 PM
Interesting: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/32273/comment-page-1#comment-282152
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hocker on July 04, 2013, 08:48:02 AM
Important Notice: Starting next week Hertz in Israel will be enforcing their policy that unless the customer provides written confirmation from his or her CC company stating that they cover CDW in Israel, they will be required to purchase CDW.
U/D for customers who don't have a letter of coverage but claim to be covered, Hertz will call up the bank to verify the coverage. The new rule is intended to save you the hassle of having to wait for them to confirm coverage.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: birne on July 06, 2013, 06:23:30 PM
can someone please update the wiki with a complete list of cards that do cover? TIA
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: mgarfin on July 11, 2013, 05:53:09 PM
Will secondary card holder get coverage?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: hakohen on July 26, 2013, 10:49:08 AM
can someone please update the wiki with a complete list of cards that do cover? TIA
anyone?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=4830.0
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 28, 2013, 03:07:07 AM
Had a interesting story today in Elbar , rented out a car and ask them to honor my World credit card and to decline the CDW and she said ok, now i see on my contract that im paying total for a day only $13!! :o  and i see that im not paying for Liability either...

Can i have a problem with it, or its her mistake

Yes, you can have a serious problem.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: lybbtthl on August 07, 2013, 06:07:50 PM
I just received an email from Chase regarding my Freedom Visa Signature, they sent me a new Guide to Benefits effective November 1st, which doesn't seem to exclude Israel from the CDW benefit!

take a look yourself: https://dcab3c5ae55b46ebb809-593e1b92cc87a436fd7f0167d99df68c.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/Visa_Signature_Freedom_V0000019_BGC10319_Eng_P.pdf
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 08, 2013, 01:44:04 PM
I just received an email from Chase regarding my Freedom Visa Signature, they sent me a new Guide to Benefits effective November 1st, which doesn't seem to exclude Israel from the CDW benefit!

take a look yourself: https://dcab3c5ae55b46ebb809-593e1b92cc87a436fd7f0167d99df68c.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/Visa_Signature_Freedom_V0000019_BGC10319_Eng_P.pdf

PUTPAC and ask for a letter of coverage. Otherwise you're playing with fire.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: SearchGuy on August 08, 2013, 05:21:27 PM
Citi thankyou Preffered WMC available again no annual fee

https://online.citibank.com/JRS/portal/template.do?ID=GoogleWalletMC
Title: Re: Ink Bold Business Charge Card
Post by: yuneeq on August 24, 2013, 10:10:37 PM
See Dan's response here. (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/33964#comments)

I just got the updated terms going into effect November 1st, the Ink Plus and probably the Bold too will now have primary insurance when renting out of the country, even when for personal use.
Title: Re: Re: Ink Bold Business Charge Card
Post by: Bostener on August 24, 2013, 10:31:01 PM
I just got the updated terms going into effect November 1st, the Ink Plus and probably the Bold too will now have primary insurance when renting out of the country, even when for personal use.

Will that change anything in Israel?
Title: Re: Re: Ink Bold Business Charge Card
Post by: yuneeq on August 24, 2013, 10:45:11 PM
Will that change anything in Israel?

Looking o we the terms, it doesn't exclude Israel, though the terms are a bit vague. I assume that it will be the same as the SP MC.
Other benefits they updated:
Purchase protection, added year of warranty- terms look like they copied amex
Trip cancellation and trip interruption insurance
Price protection and purchase protection also like amex
Lost luggage up to $3k
Trip delay and baggage delay insurance
Etc.

I don't know how much benefits are new ones but overall it looks good
Title: Re: Re: Ink Bold Business Charge Card
Post by: Crazy tools on August 25, 2013, 03:21:50 PM
The old terms for rental insurance clearly exclude Israel, the new terms say no exclusions, seems like it would be the same as SP WMC.
That's good news, now I can finally churn my SP WMC which I didn't want to because I wanted the Israel coverage.
Title: Re: Re: Ink Bold Business Charge Card
Post by: Dan on August 25, 2013, 03:26:14 PM
I just got the updated terms going into effect November 1st, the Ink Plus and probably the Bold too will now have primary insurance when renting out of the country, even when for personal use.
But still excludes personal rentals in the US.

The old terms for rental insurance clearly exclude Israel, the new terms say no exclusions, seems like it would be the same as SP WMC.
That's good news, now I can finally churn my SP WMC which I didn't want to because I wanted the Israel coverage.
The language would seem to indicate that but there is wiggle room for them to exclude Israel.
At this point I've been unable to get any confirmation either way and it seems we won't get any such confirmation until November.
Title: Re: Re: Ink Bold Business Charge Card
Post by: Crazy tools on August 25, 2013, 03:33:01 PM
The language would seem to indicate that but there is wiggle room for them to exclude Israel.
At this point I've been unable to get any confirmation either way and it seems we won't get any such confirmation until November.
Would obviously ask for confirmation when november 1st comes around.
But doesnt the sp WMC use the same exact wording?
Title: Re: Re: Ink Bold Business Charge Card
Post by: Dan on August 25, 2013, 03:37:54 PM
Wording is meaningless. We'll know what this means when someone gets a letter saying that Israel is covered.

Title: Re: Re: Ink Bold Business Charge Card
Post by: yuneeq on August 25, 2013, 04:04:16 PM
But still excludes personal rentals in the US.
The language would seem to indicate that but there is wiggle room for them to exclude Israel.
At this point I've been unable to get any confirmation either way and it seems we won't get any such confirmation until November.

Yeh I know it won't cover personal in US, though it'll still be a big addition if it includes Israel. I'm sure theres a bunch of cards that cover personal primary in US, but this will be only the 2nd to cover Israel.
Title: Re: Re: Ink Bold Business Charge Card
Post by: Dan on August 25, 2013, 04:06:50 PM
Most Chase cards seem to be going through this new policy.
So far Freedom, Hyatt, Ink Bold, Ink Plus, Sapphire Preferred, and Sapphire have been moved over effective 11/01.
If it does include Israel then all those cards will cover Israel.
Title: Re: Re: Ink Bold Business Charge Card
Post by: A European on August 25, 2013, 04:22:27 PM
Most Chase cards seem to be going through this new policy.
So far Freedom, Hyatt, Ink Bold, Ink Plus, Sapphire Preferred, and Sapphire have been moved over effective 11/01.
If it does include Israel then all those cards will cover Israel.
also VISA?
Title: Re: Re: Ink Bold Business Charge Card
Post by: ilherman on August 25, 2013, 05:14:56 PM
But still excludes personal rentals in the US.
The language would seem to indicate that but there is wiggle room for them to exclude Israel.
At this point I've been unable to get any confirmation either way and it seems we won't get any such confirmation until November.
Who can tell me if a CC covers Isreal or not? even for the Sapphire where can I get a letter thet it covers?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: SavingsBigtime on August 28, 2013, 01:08:43 PM
http://boardingarea.com/rapidtravelchai/2013/08/27/chase-ink-auto-rental-cdw/

if this is true then i guess its a game changer
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: blerbz on September 01, 2013, 06:32:12 PM
I called Chase to convert Sapphire Preferred to Mastercard. The rep asked if it was because I plan to travel. I said yes, She asked for car rental? I said yes. She asked for Israel? I said yes. She said she remembered something changed recently and that it may no longer cover Israel would I want her to double check before I convert? She put me on hold and came back saying that she checked with two different supervisors (one in Mastercard and one in member benefits) and they both confirmed that Chase cards, even world mastercards, exclude Israel for coverage.
Any truth?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: MLM on September 02, 2013, 12:31:33 AM
Probably true since my father in law went with a letter stating it would cover and the rental company still denied him
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on September 02, 2013, 12:01:34 PM
But still excludes personal rentals in the US.
The language would seem to indicate that but there is wiggle room for them to exclude Israel.
At this point I've been unable to get any confirmation either way and it seems we won't get any such confirmation until November.

For bold INK it said covers also personal in US just not primary
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Fan of Dan on September 08, 2013, 12:49:48 AM
For rentals in Greece would the Ink Plus be a good choice?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on September 22, 2013, 03:56:21 AM
FYI: I tried using my discover card at hertz a few days ago, had an email from them saying it works anywhere in the world, However the agent insisted on calling them to verify.

They said they do cover CDW up to 25K, however to the agents questions they do not cover THEFT, and therefore the agent refused to wave the CDW claiming you cannot purchase only the theft protection so i must pay for it all.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: frumeyid on September 30, 2013, 03:02:25 PM
Just wrote an SM to confirm coverage in Israel under SP World MC and they said I have secondary coverage. Isnt it supposed to be primary?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on October 01, 2013, 04:40:26 PM
Just wrote an SM to confirm coverage in Israel under SP World MC and they said I have secondary coverage. Isnt it supposed to be primary?

Well if you don't have insurance in israel then it doesn't matter, does it?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: frumeyid on October 03, 2013, 03:47:40 PM
Well if you don't have insurance in israel then it doesn't matter, does it?

Sorry I dont quite understand. My insurance here wouldnt be sought after first? What would happen if CH''V something happens during the rental.

As a side note, are there still cards that offer primary in Israel if this one doesnt?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Saver2000 on October 03, 2013, 04:00:05 PM
@frumeyid
Here's how it works:

Even credit cards that only provide secondary coverage -  they will cover as primary when in a location/country that you're primary insurance doesn't cover you. 

Obviously if the cc excludes certain countries,  it will not cover a secondary or as a primary.

As far as your  primary car insurance -  chances are they do not cover out of the USA + CA.  Check your policy. 
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: frumeyid on October 03, 2013, 06:00:01 PM
@frumeyid
Here's how it works:

Even credit cards that only provide secondary coverage -  they will cover as primary when in a location/country that you're primary insurance doesn't cover you. 

Obviously if the cc excludes certain countries,  it will not cover a secondary or as a primary.

As far as your  primary car insurance -  chances are they do not cover out of the USA + CA.  Check your policy.

Thanks for the info I didnt realize that. So what you guys are saying is that, in effect, since my car insurance probably doesnt cover me there, this is as if it's primary insurance. And I assume, this is the best I can do in terms of ccs that cover israel.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: KidOOO on October 04, 2013, 11:34:43 AM
Thanks for the info I didnt realize that. So what you guys are saying is that, in effect, since my car insurance probably doesnt cover me there, this is as if it's primary insurance. And I assume, this is the best I can do in terms of ccs that cover israel.

Exactly
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Ergel on October 20, 2013, 04:32:00 PM
Does the Lufthansa Premier M&M WMC cover Israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: DoGo on October 20, 2013, 10:45:52 PM
From the wiki "citi aa wmc platinum.." Covers in Israel..
I see that Dan removed this card from his main pg post.
Does it still cover in Israel?
Will they send letter?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: sprint on November 26, 2013, 10:20:18 PM
trying for 2 weeks to get a Letter of coverage for IB card - they refuse to produce stating explicitly that israel has cdw coveage. anyone have one they can scan in up that I can "utilize"? Need for tomorrow - getting desperate...TIA
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: dealvr on December 31, 2013, 11:59:30 AM
trying for 2 weeks to get a Letter of coverage for IB card - they refuse to produce stating explicitly that israel has cdw coveage. anyone have one they can scan in up that I can "utilize"? Need for tomorrow - getting desperate...TIA
What did you end up doing?
On the phone with Chase now and they are telling me it'll take two weeks to send me anything and I need it within 8 days.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: dealvr on December 31, 2013, 12:11:01 PM
What did you end up doing?
On the phone with Chase now and they are telling me it'll take two weeks to send me anything and I need it within 8 days.
ETA
They emailed me a letter.
PM me if you'd like it.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: shimino1 on December 31, 2013, 12:38:28 PM
Does the Lufthansa Premier M&M WMC cover Israel?
+1
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: E-MAN on January 13, 2014, 01:56:07 PM
What is the best way to go about getting the letter from Chase?
Can you SM or have to call?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: raphy781 on January 13, 2014, 06:34:43 PM
What is the best way to go about getting the letter from Chase?
Can you SM or have to call?
Someone recently posted that they got it through SM.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: raphy781 on January 14, 2014, 09:02:44 PM
What is the best way to go about getting the letter from Chase?
Can you SM or have to call?
I called today and they emailed it to me.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: E-MAN on January 14, 2014, 10:49:48 PM
I called today and they emailed it to me.
What number did you call?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: raphy781 on January 15, 2014, 10:21:15 AM
What number did you call?
I called the regular customer service line and was transfered to the benefits department. They're direct number is 1-888-320-9961
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: E-MAN on January 15, 2014, 10:36:10 AM
I called the regular customer service line and was transfered to the benefits department. They're direct number is 1-888-320-9961
Thanks!
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: sruly on January 15, 2014, 03:00:18 PM
Source?
Just got this email 1 min after making a hertz reservation :

Thank you for choosing HERTZ in Israel

Dear Customer,

We would like to provide you with the best service
possible and avoid delays at the rental counter.
In order to do so, we kindly request that for your exclusive rate
you provide a document verifying that your credit card
company provides full coverage for damage in Israel for
the duration of rental.

We wish you a safe journey and look forward to serving you in Israel.

*Please be advised that Kesher Rent A Car Ltd, Hertz Israel does not accept
externally purchased coverage except for the Credit card companies
that offer coverage in Israel.


This mail was sent via Hertz Mail-SeCure System.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Mendel72 on March 14, 2014, 01:18:42 AM
There seems to be a difference between the Chase and WMC coverages. WMC coveres up to 9 passenger vehicles while Chase covers only up to 8 passengers.

So if you are renting a 9 passenger van in Israel make sure you have a WMC, because Chase won't work.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Emkay on August 15, 2014, 03:17:58 AM
Does the AA wmc platinum cover Israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel
Post by: Novo on August 15, 2014, 11:26:44 AM
Does the AA wmc platinum cover Israel?
Yes! I used it when I was in Israel, they sent me a letter of coverage without a problem.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on August 18, 2014, 01:13:27 PM
When getting cdw insurance from chase (united) card-
1) is wife covered automatically ?
(Can she drive without being on contract?)
2) is secondary driver covered?

Thanks!
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on September 14, 2014, 04:21:18 PM
I remember reading that amex biz plat covers cdp in Israel but cant find any prof
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: thaber on September 29, 2014, 02:27:54 AM
Posted elsewhere,  but this seems more appropriate.  United mileage plus Explorer Mastercard has cdw coverage in Israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 29, 2014, 11:02:19 AM
Posted elsewhere,  but this seems more appropriate.  United mileage plus Explorer Mastercard has cdw coverage in Israel?
All Chase cards cover Israel.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: thaber on September 29, 2014, 11:43:54 AM
All Chase cards cover Israel.
Thanks.  Maybe we can update this wiki? http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=4830.msg0.msg#0
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: TAVI on March 10, 2015, 05:46:45 PM
Any idea if the new Barclays Arrival Plus WMC Elite covers CDW in Israel?

curios if it is different than the older regular arrival WMC card.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: rabshi on June 29, 2015, 01:13:04 PM
All Chase cards cover Israel.

But as known, the Israeli rental companies demand a CC with bold numbers, which the Chase cards don't have (besides freedom that charges foreign transaction fee). How do work this around?
 
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: coralsnake on June 29, 2015, 01:14:44 PM
But as known, the Israeli rental companies demand a CC with bold numbers, which the Chase cards don't have (besides freedom that charges foreign transaction fee). How do work this around?
 
I had no problem with my Chase SP at Thrifty TLV in January.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on June 29, 2015, 01:15:10 PM
But as known, the Israeli rental companies demand a CC with bold numbers, which the Chase cards don't have (besides freedom that charges foreign transaction fee). How do work this around?
-1 I currently have a rental that I used the United business card with and rented with different chase cards and was fine. They all let.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Red on June 29, 2015, 01:38:55 PM
But as known, the Israeli rental companies demand a CC with bold numbers, which the Chase cards don't have (besides freedom that charges foreign transaction fee). How do work this around?
Most don't require it anymore. I think Thrifty still does.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: coralsnake on June 29, 2015, 01:44:20 PM
Most don't require it anymore. I think Thrifty still does.
I had no problem with my Chase SP at Thrifty TLV in January.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Red on June 29, 2015, 02:08:54 PM

:D

I just rented a car from budget without a problem.
I had someone in the car who said he rented from thrifty in Yerushalayim a few months ago and they wouldn't let him use a card without raised letters.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: a mirrer on June 29, 2015, 03:42:49 PM
:D

I just rented a car from budget without a problem.
I had someone in the car who said he rented from thrifty in Yerushalayim a few months ago and they wouldn't let him use a card without raised letters.
i rented there a couple of months ago and they only didn't let the ritz because the numbers aren't raised at all as opposed to the sp where its a little raised
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: shlonx on July 15, 2015, 05:04:37 PM
Tachlis, will a Chase Sapphire Preferred cover CDW in Israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: a mirrer on July 15, 2015, 05:06:22 PM
Tachlis, will a Chase Sapphire Preferred cover CDW in Israel?
yes
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: shlonx on July 15, 2015, 05:21:18 PM
Even if it doesn't have raised numbers?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Boruch999 on August 05, 2015, 07:34:29 AM
Citi Thankyou Premier?  Amex PRG?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: MI on August 07, 2015, 06:33:15 PM
Barclay AA Aviator WMC covers?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Boruch999 on August 08, 2015, 01:55:30 PM
Barclay AA Aviator WMC covers?
According to phone rep, no.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: E-MAN on August 11, 2015, 02:59:47 PM
Do you still need a letter from Chase to cover CDW in Israel?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Boruch999 on August 11, 2015, 03:38:40 PM
Do you still need a letter from Chase to cover CDW in Israel?

I imagine it varies by company.  I rented from Thrifty this week and was not asked for a letter.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: E-MAN on August 12, 2015, 04:38:18 PM
Do I need a letter from Citi if using a AA WMC Platinum card that it covers CDW?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: coralsnake on August 12, 2015, 11:01:52 PM
Do I need a letter from Citi if using a AA WMC Platinum card that it covers CDW?
Probably not but YMMV.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on May 17, 2016, 09:04:08 PM
so does city cover in isreal in full and I don't need to buy any insurance  in Israel
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 18, 2016, 02:23:56 AM
so does city cover in isreal in full and I don't need to buy any insurance  in Israel
You will always need liability.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: emjee on May 18, 2016, 07:51:58 AM
so does city cover in isreal in full and I don't need to buy any insurance  in Israel

You will always need liability.
+1 there's no option to not take it. IME all rental companies enforce it even with cc coverage
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 18, 2016, 08:00:29 AM


IME all rental companies enforce it even with cc coverage
no CC covers it.

Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on May 18, 2016, 09:13:04 AM
You will always need liability.

I always mange to get charged about $20 a day ? so what part of the insurance can I denied with my city card ? 
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 18, 2016, 09:14:28 AM
I always mange to get charged about $20 a day ? so what part of the insurance can I denied with my city card ?
Collision.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on May 18, 2016, 09:26:46 AM
Collision.

and do I need proof for that in isreal I think last time I was there they asked me ?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 18, 2016, 09:27:46 AM
and do I need proof for that in isreal I think last time I was there they asked me ?
Usually not.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: emjee on May 18, 2016, 09:31:28 AM
no CC covers it.
My mistake. "even if cc covers it" what they say.
and do I need proof for that in isreal I think last time I was there they asked me ?
I've heard of people having to show a letter, but I've never had to show one. So as emkay said...
Usually not.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on May 18, 2016, 09:40:19 AM
and do I need proof for that in isreal I think last time I was there they asked me ?
Usually not.
It's not really a matter of usually or not usually more like certain companies ask and others don't. I know Thrifty/Elbar and Avis you don't but Hertz you do. Not saying that you won't find a time where you don't have to in Hertz but the policy by them is you need it.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 18, 2016, 09:41:41 AM
It's not really a matter of usually or not usually more like certain companies ask and others don't. I know Thrifty/Elbar and Avis you don't but Hertz you do. Not saying that you won't find a time where you don't have to in Hertz but the policy by them is you need it.
Wasn't that only for a short period of time? I dont think they still ask for it.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on May 18, 2016, 09:42:17 AM
Wasn't that only for a short period of time? I dont think they still ask for it.
Not sure what your referring to but I got asked a few months ago.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on May 19, 2016, 09:32:44 AM
My Citi TY premier covers CDW in Israel. Are all TY WMC? Are the Citi cards that don't have this?

I want to edit the wiki on Citi but don't want to put wrong info?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: cholent on May 23, 2016, 10:52:47 AM
Will most rental places allow you to pay at drop off with a different card than you gave at pick up? Ie I'd like to reserve with a card that has cdw coverage, then switch to arrival+ at drop off
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: emjee on May 23, 2016, 12:31:19 PM
Will most rental places allow you to pay at drop off with a different card than you gave at pick up? Ie I'd like to reserve with a card that has cdw coverage, then switch to arrival+ at drop off
Ymmv
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on May 23, 2016, 01:13:23 PM
Will most rental places allow you to pay at drop off with a different card than you gave at pick up? Ie I'd like to reserve with a card that has cdw coverage, then switch to arrival+ at drop off
Ymmv
I just tried today at Thrifty and they did not let as they said the card I rented with has the insurance so they can't change it unless I wanna pay for the collision insurance from them.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: cholent on May 23, 2016, 01:14:55 PM
I just tried today at Thrifty and they did not let as they said the card I rented with has the insurance so they can't change it unless I wanna pay for the collision insurance from them.
So they want you to buy insurance after the fact?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on May 23, 2016, 01:16:38 PM
So they want you to buy insurance after the fact?
If I want to change the credit card then yes. So I just left it on the card that I rented on.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 23, 2016, 01:49:06 PM
I just tried today at Thrifty and they did not let as they said the card I rented with has the insurance so they can't change it unless I wanna pay for the collision insurance from them.
I had the same experience with thrifty more than once. Sixt had let me though.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: emjee on May 23, 2016, 02:04:27 PM
I had the same experience with thrifty more than once. Sixt had let me though.
Same by me except avis was the one that let me do it (was a while ago though)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Pad18 on August 30, 2016, 06:50:58 PM
does the Citi AAdvantage Platinum master card has the coverage for Israel ?
and if yes, what i need to show/say when i rent a car in Israel ?

thanks
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: emjee on August 31, 2016, 04:28:24 AM
does the Citi AAdvantage Platinum master card has the coverage for Israel ?
and if yes, what i need to show/say when i rent a car in Israel ?

thanks
Wiki says yes . Just say you are using your cc for insurance
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Pad18 on September 01, 2016, 12:31:26 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: coupongal on September 02, 2016, 11:27:49 AM
do i need to take theft coverage with the mastercard world card? I know we need liablity, and the card covers CDW
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: hocker on September 03, 2016, 08:27:58 PM
do i need to take theft coverage with the mastercard world card? I know we need liablity, and the card covers CDW
Included in the card.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: asks on November 03, 2016, 03:07:57 PM
Included in the card.
So for Chase CC's (United) how much does the required liability coverage come out to per day?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on November 03, 2016, 06:53:43 PM
So for Chase CC's (United) how much does the required liability coverage come out to per day?
Depends on the car class..average of $12-$15/day
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 03, 2016, 06:58:11 PM
So for Chase CC's (United) how much does the required liability coverage come out to per day?

Liability has nothing to do with whether or not you are using CC insurance.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: asks on November 03, 2016, 07:45:35 PM
Liability has nothing to do with whether or not you are using CC insurance.
can you explain further?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on November 03, 2016, 07:54:56 PM
can you explain further?
There are two types of insurance that you need. Liability has to be bought from the car rental agency, while Collision can be covered if you have a cc that covers it-thereby negating the need to buy it from the rental place.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: asks on November 03, 2016, 08:30:42 PM
There are two types of insurance that you need. Liability has to be bought from the car rental agency, while Collision can be covered if you have a cc that covers it-thereby negating the need to buy it from the rental place.
thanks
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Dave A on December 16, 2016, 12:24:05 PM
Just asked Chase for a CDW waiver letter and the new one they have doesn't specifically mention Israel (or Ireland or Jamaica).  They said they used to send the one regarding "previously excluded locations" but don't have that version anymore.  Anyone have recent experience with Hertz at TLV where this new letter was an issue?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Dave A on December 17, 2016, 11:55:50 PM
Just asked Chase for a CDW waiver letter and the new one they have doesn't specifically mention Israel (or Ireland or Jamaica).  They said they used to send the one regarding "previously excluded locations" but don't have that version anymore.  Anyone have recent experience with Hertz at TLV where this new letter was an issue?
BUMP
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Dave A on December 19, 2016, 12:08:21 AM
BUMP
Anyone?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: emjee on December 19, 2016, 03:41:20 AM
Anyone?
1) I never bring a letter
2) Iirc , this was discussed in a different thread . Seems to be 2 different T&C letters being given out and that the card still covers
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: hocker on December 20, 2016, 07:12:07 AM
1) I never bring a letter
2) Iirc , this was discussed in a different thread . Seems to be 2 different T&C letters being given out and that the card still covers
As long as it isn't excluded should be good for Hertz TLV. I'm a Hertz agent and on reservation I put through I can guarantee the successful outcome.
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on January 08, 2017, 08:08:26 AM
So is it current info that ANY Chase card covers CDW in Israel?

And are there any American Express cards that do?

Tia
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: emjee on January 08, 2017, 09:21:04 AM


So is it current info that ANY Chase card covers CDW in Israel?

And are there any American Express cards that do?

Tia

No amex do .
Chase changed ?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: DanH on January 24, 2017, 03:53:19 AM
What about this card?  Can't find anything online...

(http://i.imgur.com/ZGaHX54.jpg)

Edit:
Called them.  It does cover:

(http://i.imgur.com/Z2zl1nh.png)
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on March 27, 2017, 09:25:34 AM
My son rented a car from thrifty. The CC they were using was on his wife's name and she had a letter from Chase that the car insurance was covered. She happened to get a new Drivers License this year. Thrifty said being that the license is less than a year old the letter from Chase does not let them issue the rental on her name. She could not prove that she is driving for more than 1 year as she did not bring he old license. This does not make any sense to me. Anyone else had this happen to them?
Title: Re: World MasterCards That Do/Don't Cover CDW In Israel Master Thread
Post by: outinstyle on September 09, 2017, 10:06:14 PM
I will rent a car in Israel and have the
 
Barclays AA Aviator World Elite MasterCard
or Amex business Platinum.
Both claim to cover insurance and no forex fees...
Which one I will have the best coverage?

Any advantage one over the other in Israel?
Renting through Europcar.

Thank you.