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Title: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on September 26, 2017, 11:25:47 AM
I think this deserves it's own thread (and a DDMS post).
HT - Yalili, OMAAT
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/09/26/el-al-award-ticket-best-value/
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: aygart on September 26, 2017, 11:33:47 AM
(and a DDMS post).
You want it to stop working?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 26, 2017, 11:34:53 AM
People posted that they called and were denied.
How YMMV is this?
What are the taxes?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on September 26, 2017, 11:41:29 AM
You want it to stop working?
1) If there's an official chart for it, I doubt it's a mistake. And if it's official (like it used to be with AA), then there's nothing to hide.
2) Lucky already posted it. It's no secret anymore.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: aygart on September 26, 2017, 11:44:24 AM
1) If there's an official chart for it, I doubt it's a mistake. And if it's official (like it used to be with AA), then there's nothing to hide.
2) Lucky already posted it. It's no secret anymore.
1) There is no chart specific to ElAl from NY
2) The results for TLV redemptions from DDMS and OMAAT do not compare.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Aerial Dag on September 26, 2017, 12:43:58 PM
Honestly, how many TY points does the average DDMS user have? For better or worse, Citi cards aren't heavily promoted on DDMS like MR, UR, SPG.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on September 26, 2017, 12:50:20 PM
Honestly, how many TY points does the average DDMS user have? For better or worse, Citi cards aren't heavily promoted on DDMS like MR, UR, SPG.
Besides for Citi, from which airlines can points be credited to Qantas?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: aygart on September 26, 2017, 12:50:34 PM
Honestly, how many TY points does the average DDMS user have? For better or worse, Citi cards aren't heavily promoted on DDMS like MR, UR, SPG.
That can change quickly.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Yaalili on September 26, 2017, 12:53:49 PM
Besides for Citi, from which airlines can points be credited to Qantas?

QF is part of oneworld. Can credit from those flights.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: nobiggy on September 26, 2017, 01:02:42 PM
Honestly, how many TY points does the average DDMS user have? For better or worse, Citi cards aren't heavily promoted on DDMS like MR, UR, SPG.
It doesn't make a difference. It's fairly easy to get your hands on it.....
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: myi on September 26, 2017, 06:28:33 PM
QF is part of oneworld. Can credit from those flights.
whats the average sign up bonus on a citi ty card?
Is there any card which gets you 2x or only the double cash?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: high end hobo on September 26, 2017, 10:02:05 PM
I think this deserves it's own thread (and a DDMS post).
HT - Yalili, OMAAT
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/09/26/el-al-award-ticket-best-value/
I was the first one to write about it on DDF.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=75335.msg1800986#msg1800986
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2017, 12:14:49 AM
QF call center is incredibly incompetent.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2017, 12:43:06 AM
Called earlier, transferred around a bunch, said to call back after 7am SYD time.

Called now, rep said can't book LY with miles, I said you could, rep learned how to book LY with miles, said that was really eye opening, found the award space, and an hour later finally gets shot down trying to price it, "can't book LY North America-TLV."

Ugh.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2017, 12:46:56 AM
Has anyone actually ticketed NYC-TLV with QF miles?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: username on September 27, 2017, 12:54:57 AM
Called earlier, transferred around a bunch, said to call back after 7am SYD time.

Called now, rep said can't book LY with miles, I said you could, rep learned how to book LY with miles, said that was really eye opening, found the award space, and an hour later finally gets shot down trying to price it, "can't book LY North America-TLV."

Ugh.
You interested in flying, or just testing the system?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2017, 01:02:56 AM
You interested in flying, or just testing the system?
Both.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2017, 01:08:19 AM
This is legit torture.
Never though I'd find an airline that makes BA's call center look good!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2017, 01:20:41 AM
Seems like there's no way to talk to the brains of the operation.
The offshore reps have to chat with the frequent flyer department.

Maddening.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Yammer on September 27, 2017, 01:25:15 AM
Seems like there's no way to talk to the brains of the operation.
The offshore reps have to chat with the frequent flyer department.

Maddening.
Need to ask Aussies how they do it...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2017, 01:44:01 AM
OK, one last HUCA and calling it quits.
I'd love to hear the story from anyone who was actually able to get NYC-TLV ticketed via QF.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Pesach on September 27, 2017, 01:47:37 AM
if all this would be possible ,would that make quantas the best option for crediting oneworld  flights  if you want to accumulate points for Israel flights?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2017, 01:56:30 AM
This reservation agent insists that LY isn't a valid redemption partner, but she's transferring me to the frequent flyer department.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2017, 02:07:07 AM
And punted back to reservations.
The QF frequent flyer rep says that only res agents can search for award space. Not our problem that they are incompetent. So sorry not sorry.

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Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2017, 02:19:47 AM
OMG
Got a competent rep...lets see what happens.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2017, 02:23:39 AM
OK, I guess that's the trick to get someone competent.
If anyone actually has a confirmed booking please let me know.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Geshmak25 on September 27, 2017, 02:45:02 AM
OK, I guess that's the trick to get someone competent.
If anyone actually has a confirmed booking please let me know.
So what happened with your competent rep?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on September 27, 2017, 03:13:03 AM
OK, I guess that's the trick to get someone competent.
If anyone actually has a confirmed booking please let me know.

And??
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on September 27, 2017, 06:15:59 AM
So what happened with your competent rep?
Sounds like Dan was able to get the agent to book it, but it's not showing as ticketed yet. And he wants to hear of others were able to book through Qantas, and if it also took many HUCAs, and if it actually got ticketed, or ElAl checks the reservation and realizes they're not supposed to be able to book North America to TLV.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on September 27, 2017, 06:58:53 AM
Sounds like Dan was able to get the agent to book it, but it's not showing as ticketed yet. And he wants to hear of others were able to book through Qantas, and if it also took many HUCAs, and if it actually got ticketed, or ElAl checks the reservation and realizes they're not supposed to be able to book North America to TLV.
Or maybe he was just simply not yet ready to book... ::)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Aerial Dag on September 27, 2017, 08:53:51 AM
OK, I guess that's the trick to get someone competent.
What was the trick...?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Matovu on September 27, 2017, 09:46:35 AM
Anxiously awaiting an update.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: aygart on September 27, 2017, 12:57:22 PM
What was the trick...?
HUCA until...... Instead of running in circles?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ExGingi on September 27, 2017, 01:01:46 PM
Seems like there's no way to talk to the brains of the operation.
The offshore reps have to chat with the frequent flyer department.

Maddening.
And to think one would have to go through all this for the dubious pleasure of subjecting oneself to.... LY! Double torture!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on September 27, 2017, 01:09:48 PM
Anxiously awaiting an update.

+1

Paging Dan
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2017, 01:34:49 PM
Waiting to hear from anyone who has been ticketed via the call center.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: myi on September 27, 2017, 01:36:31 PM
Waiting to hear from anyone who has been ticketed via the call center.
What's the cancellation policy for these tickets should one try to book one? 
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: rollingstone on September 28, 2017, 12:37:38 AM
Waiting to hear from anyone who has been ticketed via the call center.
I've seen reports of people successfully ticketing NYC-TLV. No personal experience though.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ExGingi on September 28, 2017, 01:03:34 AM
What's the cancellation policy for these tickets should one try ever manage to book one?
FTFY
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: S123 on September 28, 2017, 01:06:03 AM
No he meant should one try to book one or not worth it bec high cancellation fee
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ExGingi on September 28, 2017, 01:16:10 AM
No he meant should one try to book one or not worth it bec high cancellation fee
And that's on top of how many hours spent trying to book and get it actually issued?

It sounds all too hypothetical at this point.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: dovidr93 on September 28, 2017, 01:39:26 AM
What's the cancellation policy for these tickets should one try to book one?
6K points for cancelation and 5k to change.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: EJB on September 28, 2017, 09:35:41 AM
So Lucky posted that he was succesful
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: AJK on September 28, 2017, 09:38:29 AM
So Lucky posted that he was succesful
Nope.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Geshmak25 on September 28, 2017, 09:38:38 AM
So Lucky posted that he was succesful
Not for NYC
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 28, 2017, 10:37:43 AM
So Lucky posted that he was succesful
LOL -1, thanks for playing  ;D
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: EJB on September 28, 2017, 11:01:23 AM
Not for NYC

Yup. TLV-LHR. I didn't say NYC. Was LHR always possible?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 28, 2017, 11:02:17 AM
Yup. TLV-LHR. I didn't say NYC. Was LHR always possible?
Everywhere besides NA can be done on QF.com
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Geshmak25 on September 28, 2017, 11:07:43 AM
Everywhere besides NA can be done on QF.com
What did the competent rep tell you over the phone?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: brodes18 on September 28, 2017, 12:45:55 PM
What did the competent rep tell you over the phone?
+1
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 28, 2017, 01:34:22 PM
What did the competent rep tell you over the phone?
+1
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on September 28, 2017, 01:57:32 PM
What did the competent rep tell you over the phone?

+1
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on September 28, 2017, 02:07:51 PM
+1
+1
+1

You'll have to get him yourselves to find out
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: EJB on September 28, 2017, 08:10:01 PM
He probably posted about it on the super seekrit forum
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: oiseli48 on September 29, 2017, 06:08:15 AM
Not sure what's going on here but I was successful in booking MIA-TLV with qantas points, took over a week with a few hours on the phone in total
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: 3yummyboys on September 29, 2017, 06:27:39 AM
Not sure what's going on here but I was successful in booking MIA-TLV with qantas points, took over a week with a few hours on the phone in total

Booked and ticketed?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: high end hobo on September 29, 2017, 08:04:23 AM
Not sure what's going on here but I was successful in booking MIA-TLV with qantas points, took over a week with a few hours on the phone in total
in J/F?

That's an important detail
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 29, 2017, 08:06:00 AM
in J/F?

That's an important detail
Yes, people have been booked and ticketed in J/F. Though "they" don't want all us plebs to know.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Geshmak25 on September 29, 2017, 08:10:34 AM
Yes, people have been booked and ticketed in J/F. Though "they" don't want all us plebs to know.
And were you one of those lucky people?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: SearchGuy on September 29, 2017, 08:13:53 AM
And were you one of those lucky people?
+1 I guess EJ was right #SecretForum
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 29, 2017, 08:13:53 AM
Not in the market.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Geshmak25 on September 29, 2017, 08:16:39 AM
Not in the market.

So this was just research?

Called earlier, transferred around a bunch, said to call back after 7am SYD time.

Called now, rep said can't book LY with miles, I said you could, rep learned how to book LY with miles, said that was really eye opening, found the award space, and an hour later finally gets shot down trying to price it, "can't book LY North America-TLV."

Ugh.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 29, 2017, 09:02:51 AM
So this was just research?
Indeed
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: EJB on September 29, 2017, 09:20:28 AM
+1 I guess EJ was right #SecretForum

Whenever you get 10 people bashing you at the same time, you know there's probably some truth to what you're saying (even if it isn't completely true)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: EJB on September 29, 2017, 09:21:10 AM
Not in the market.

So what's the trick? Is there a different system they have, manual request, etc.?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: rollingstone on September 29, 2017, 12:12:06 PM
Yes, people have been booked and ticketed in J/F. Though "they" don't want all us plebs to know.
Probably just trying to avoid a DDMS post.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on September 29, 2017, 04:57:36 PM
Probably just trying to avoid a DDMS post.
Best way to avoid a DDMS post would be to loop me in early and ask to keep it on the down low :P
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: oiseli48 on September 29, 2017, 05:09:01 PM
Not sure what's going on here but I was successful in booking MIA-TLV with qantas points, took over a week with a few hours on the phone in total

Yes it was J. I did get some reps who told me they can't book LY, but as the saying goes, יגעת ומצאת תאמין.

No real secrets to getting it done other than that.

And yes, it would be nice to keep it off DDMS for a while ;)

If it went on, you'd have hundreds of people complaining that they were being told they couldn't do it.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Geshmak25 on October 03, 2017, 02:52:29 PM
And yes, it would be nice to keep it off DDMS for a while ;)
Nope
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: EJB on October 03, 2017, 02:57:04 PM
Best way to avoid a DDMS post would be to loop me in early and ask to keep it on the down low :P


Too late for that
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on October 03, 2017, 03:03:13 PM

Too late for that
After I do my own research, yes.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: David Smith on October 10, 2017, 01:40:51 AM
Good job.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: oiseli48 on October 10, 2017, 01:44:31 AM
Bde to first class redemptions
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yhaller14 on October 10, 2017, 02:35:04 AM
Good job.
+100
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on October 10, 2017, 03:49:34 AM
Bde to first class redemptions
Says who
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: EJB on October 10, 2017, 06:43:23 AM
Link?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: David Smith on October 10, 2017, 08:41:38 AM
Not everything has a link.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: EJB on October 10, 2017, 09:04:05 AM
Loidh
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: dovidr93 on October 10, 2017, 10:20:19 AM
Bde to first class redemptions
All routes? Or only transatlantic?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: oiseli48 on October 11, 2017, 12:49:43 AM
All routes? Or only transatlantic?

Seems like all routes
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ad120 on October 15, 2017, 10:51:43 PM
My friend is booked on LY 008 for 10/08. He purchased his tickets via Main Street Travel. Does anyone here have experience with them and can comment on there competency? Will they be able to add his QF FFN to his LY res?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: high end hobo on October 19, 2017, 10:35:19 AM
My friend is booked on LY 008 for 10/08. He purchased his tickets via Main Street Travel. Does anyone here have experience with them and can comment on there competency? Will they be able to add his QF FFN to his LY res?
Lol they're competent and should be able to
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on October 19, 2017, 11:16:20 AM
My friend is booked on LY 008 for 10/08. He purchased his tickets via Main Street Travel. Does anyone here have experience with them and can comment on there competency? Will they be able to add his QF FFN to his LY res?
What a question
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on October 23, 2017, 03:54:28 AM
I didn't see this mentioned anywhere, but now that El Al can be booked via Qantas, there is another interesting way to accrue Qantas miles.

Accor points transfer to Qantas 1:1 (2000 Accor to 2000 Qantas).  Not necessarily the best way to use them (2000 Accor can also give you 40 EUR off at one of their hotels), but if you just need to top off it can do the trick.  Also, no other hotel has a 1:1 to Qantas.

I haven't found anyway to buy/earn Accor besides actual stays or rental cars, but they do partner with E-Rewards at a very good redemption rate.  $60 E-Rewards = 1000 Accor with no limit to number of redemptions per period. (Obviously you should work on Accor redemptions only after completing your monthly airline redemption of $100 E-Rewards to 2000 miles).
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: elya on October 23, 2017, 12:32:06 PM
I didn't see this mentioned anywhere, but now that El Al can be booked via Qantas, there is another interesting way to accrue Qantas miles.

Accor points transfer to Qantas 1:1 (2000 Accor to 2000 Qantas).  Not necessarily the best way to use them (2000 Accor can also give you 40 EUR off at one of their hotels), but if you just need to top off it can do the trick.  Also, no other hotel has a 1:1 to Qantas.

I haven't found anyway to buy/earn Accor besides actual stays or rental cars, but they do partner with E-Rewards at a very good redemption rate.  $60 E-Rewards = 1000 Accor with no limit to number of redemptions per period. (Obviously you should work on Accor redemptions only after completing your monthly airline redemption of $100 E-Rewards to 2000 miles).
Very informative.
Thanks alot.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ExGingi on October 24, 2017, 03:06:27 PM
What a question
A classical question for someone who earns miles only by flying and redeems at terrible rates (if at all).
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on October 24, 2017, 03:25:24 PM
A classical question for someone who earns miles only by flying and redeems at terrible rates (if at all).

I was referring to his Q if that agency can add it...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ExGingi on October 24, 2017, 04:41:11 PM
I was referring to his Q if that agency can add it...
My reply still stands.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ADG on October 25, 2017, 01:20:14 PM
Is there a way to know if there is availability without calling. (like a 12.5k on AA will be found on BA)?

Thanks
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on October 25, 2017, 01:24:45 PM
Is there a way to know if there is availability without calling. (like a 12.5k on AA will be found on BA)?

Thanks
LY's webiste?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ADG on October 25, 2017, 05:23:51 PM
LY's webiste?

You mean if there is award availability?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on October 25, 2017, 06:26:22 PM
You mean if there is award availability?
Yes
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bmw on October 29, 2017, 02:04:23 PM
After some trial and error the last week and actually booking some elal tickets with qf points, I can give a few pointers. 1, avoid the cape town call center at all costs, even when it seems like they can help they just end up botching things up, [huca wonít work too much, during daytime hours in the us they sometimes only have 5 reps there], the key is to speak to the Australian  call center which is open from 7am to 7pm [Australian EST], however when calling from the us even during those hours you stand a high chance of getting routed there [you can hear on their accent, or ask them straight out], the trick is to call during abovementioned open hours, select option 2 to speak to the ff team [they only operate down under], tell them you want to make a point booking and theyíll transfer you to the down under reservation call center. All the reps I spoke to in that call center found the elal seats straight away and had no problem building a reservation, taxes were $9 outbound $45 the return leg. You have to make sure they waive the booking fee since it canít be booked online. Changes are 5k, cancellations 6k, no fee within the first 24 hours.

Availability seemed to correspond more or less to elal.com, some coach seats actually being available by the seats which didnít show on elal.com, but on the whole it was identical, business seemed to be a bit less. On all occasions ticketing didnít occur straight away, once I rang the next day and they issued it on the spot, sometimes I had to ring twice and was done within a few hours. be aware that when booking foe someone else things can get a bit tiresome with their security questions, [how are you related, are you authorized ? of course itís my points !!]. So itís actually quite simple to get the actual booking done if you follow the above procedure, you just got to stand on top of them to get it issued [make sure you have something to pass the time while you wait on hold]. Good luck.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: AJK on October 29, 2017, 02:18:01 PM
Good stuff, thanks.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: aygart on October 29, 2017, 02:19:12 PM
After some trial and error the last week and actually booking some elal tickets with qf points, I can give a few pointers. 1, avoid the cape town call center at all costs, even when it seems like they can help they just end up botching things up, [huca wonít work too much, during daytime hours in the us they sometimes only have 5 reps there], the key is to speak to the Australian  call center which is open from 7am to 7pm [Australian EST], however when calling from the us even during those hours you stand a high chance of getting routed there [you can hear on their accent, or ask them straight out], the trick is to call during abovementioned open hours, select option 2 to speak to the ff team [they only operate down under], tell them you want to make a point booking and theyíll transfer you to the down under reservation call center. All the reps I spoke to in that call center found the elal seats straight away and had no problem building a reservation, taxes were $9 outbound $45 the return leg. You have to make sure they waive the booking fee since it canít be booked online. Changes are 5k, cancellations 6k, no fee within the first 24 hours.

Availability seemed to correspond more or less to elal.com, some coach seats actually being available by the seats which didnít show on elal.com, but on the whole it was identical, business seemed to be a bit less. On all occasions ticketing didnít occur straight away, once I rang the next day and they issued it on the spot, sometimes I had to ring twice and was done within a few hours. be aware that when booking foe someone else things can get a bit tiresome with their security questions, [how are you related, are you authorized ? of course itís my points !!]. So itís actually quite simple to get the actual booking done if you follow the above procedure, you just got to stand on top of them to get it issued [make sure you have something to pass the time while you wait on hold]. Good luck.
This is for NYC or Europe/Australia?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2017, 02:28:22 PM
After some trial and error the last week and actually booking some elal tickets with qf points, I can give a few pointers. 1, avoid the cape town call center at all costs, even when it seems like they can help they just end up botching things up, [huca wonít work too much, during daytime hours in the us they sometimes only have 5 reps there], the key is to speak to the Australian  call center which is open from 7am to 7pm [Australian EST], however when calling from the us even during those hours you stand a high chance of getting routed there [you can hear on their accent, or ask them straight out], the trick is to call during abovementioned open hours, select option 2 to speak to the ff team [they only operate down under], tell them you want to make a point booking and theyíll transfer you to the down under reservation call center. All the reps I spoke to in that call center found the elal seats straight away and had no problem building a reservation, taxes were $9 outbound $45 the return leg. You have to make sure they waive the booking fee since it canít be booked online. Changes are 5k, cancellations 6k, no fee within the first 24 hours.

Availability seemed to correspond more or less to elal.com, some coach seats actually being available by the seats which didnít show on elal.com, but on the whole it was identical, business seemed to be a bit less. On all occasions ticketing didnít occur straight away, once I rang the next day and they issued it on the spot, sometimes I had to ring twice and was done within a few hours. be aware that when booking foe someone else things can get a bit tiresome with their security questions, [how are you related, are you authorized ? of course itís my points !!]. So itís actually quite simple to get the actual booking done if you follow the above procedure, you just got to stand on top of them to get it issued [make sure you have something to pass the time while you wait on hold]. Good luck.

Impossible. Once Dan posted his booking method it should have been killed within days.
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Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2017, 02:28:40 PM
This is for NYC or Europe/Australia?
Obviously NA-TLV.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2017, 02:30:00 PM
After some trial and error the last week and actually booking some elal tickets with qf points, I can give a few pointers. 1, avoid the cape town call center at all costs, even when it seems like they can help they just end up botching things up, [huca wonít work too much, during daytime hours in the us they sometimes only have 5 reps there], the key is to speak to the Australian  call center which is open from 7am to 7pm [Australian EST], however when calling from the us even during those hours you stand a high chance of getting routed there [you can hear on their accent, or ask them straight out], the trick is to call during abovementioned open hours, select option 2 to speak to the ff team [they only operate down under], tell them you want to make a point booking and theyíll transfer you to the down under reservation call center. All the reps I spoke to in that call center found the elal seats straight away and had no problem building a reservation, taxes were $9 outbound $45 the return leg. You have to make sure they waive the booking fee since it canít be booked online. Changes are 5k, cancellations 6k, no fee within the first 24 hours.

Availability seemed to correspond more or less to elal.com, some coach seats actually being available by the seats which didnít show on elal.com, but on the whole it was identical, business seemed to be a bit less. On all occasions ticketing didnít occur straight away, once I rang the next day and they issued it on the spot, sometimes I had to ring twice and was done within a few hours. be aware that when booking foe someone else things can get a bit tiresome with their security questions, [how are you related, are you authorized ? of course itís my points !!]. So itís actually quite simple to get the actual booking done if you follow the above procedure, you just got to stand on top of them to get it issued [make sure you have something to pass the time while you wait on hold]. Good luck.

On a more serious note, good to see my trial and error method worked perfectly!

This reservation agent insists that LY isn't a valid redemption partner, but she's transferring me to the frequent flyer department.
And punted back to reservations.
The QF frequent flyer rep says that only res agents can search for award space. Not our problem that they are incompetent. So sorry not sorry.

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OMG
Got a competent rep...lets see what happens.
OK, I guess that's the trick to get someone competent.
If anyone actually has a confirmed booking please let me know.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bmw on October 29, 2017, 04:00:58 PM
its no glitch, so no reason it should be killed. if anything eventually they should load them online. there is a chance that surcharges might come with as is the case on some other routes available online. the opening of these seats is probaly has to do with the enhancement of the qantas elal relationship [on bibis recent visit down under] which also lead to business and first elal seats becoming available for qantas ff members
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: EJB on October 29, 2017, 04:22:39 PM
its no glitch, so no reason it should be killed. if anything eventually they should load them online. there is a chance that surcharges might come with as is the case on some other routes available online. the opening of these seats is probaly has to do with the enhancement of the qantas elal relationship [on bibis recent visit down under] which also lead to business and first elal seats becoming available for qantas ff members

But if more ppl redeem they may raise redemption price.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on October 29, 2017, 04:26:33 PM
But if more ppl redeem they may raise redemption price.

It's tied to their partner award chart, so they would have to raise for all partners as a whole unless they were to fundamentally alter the program by adding a separate chart for El Al.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: EJB on October 29, 2017, 04:27:01 PM
It's tied to their partner award chart, so they would have to raise for all partners as a whole unless they were to fundamentally alter the program by adding a separate chart for El Al.
Easy enough to do. Especially for non alliance partners.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ad120 on October 29, 2017, 07:03:33 PM
It's tied to their partner award chart, so they would have to raise for all partners as a whole unless they were to fundamentally alter the program by adding a separate chart for El Al.
Like SQ does with VX.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on November 13, 2017, 09:43:37 AM
Whatís the rate from NYC to TLV RT ?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: high end hobo on November 13, 2017, 10:12:27 AM
Whatís the rate from NYC to TLV RT ?
Helps when you post class
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on November 13, 2017, 01:39:05 PM
Helps when you post class
I thought you would answer with class and rates.... there arenít that many options after all
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on November 13, 2017, 01:51:34 PM
Whatís the rate from NYC to TLV RT ?

https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-deals/israel-flights/actually-possible-use-qantas-points-save-el-al-award-flights-north-america-tel-aviv/
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on November 13, 2017, 01:53:57 PM
https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-deals/israel-flights/actually-possible-use-qantas-points-save-el-al-award-flights-north-america-tel-aviv/

Thank you!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: J-town on January 30, 2018, 01:42:43 AM
You can now book TLV<>N.A. online
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on January 30, 2018, 06:29:34 AM
You can now book TLV<>N.A. online
Nice! How much are the taxes?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 30, 2018, 12:17:07 PM
You can now book TLV<>N.A. online

Nice! Time to give TY points another look.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shmuels2 on January 30, 2018, 12:35:16 PM
You can now book TLV<>N.A. online

MIA>TLV availability (according to EF) doesn't show in that search.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on January 30, 2018, 01:04:15 PM
Nice! Time to give TY points another look.
Time for QF to get another transfer partner! (Hopefully UR or MR)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 30, 2018, 01:13:03 PM
Time for QF to get another transfer partner! (Hopefully UR or MR)

Yeh would be great if they add MR.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: miles lover on January 30, 2018, 02:57:51 PM
Anyone know the cancelation policy for these bookings ?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Baglach on January 31, 2018, 01:54:13 AM
Anyone know the cancelation policy for these bookings ?
6k To cancel
5k for changes
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidd75 on January 31, 2018, 09:03:57 AM
all TY points transfer to Qantas or just those earned with premier card?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a mirrer on January 31, 2018, 09:22:40 AM
all TY points transfer to Qantas or just those earned with premier card?
if your account has a premier or prestige cc linked to it then all ty points earned from cc's transfer to airlines
however ty points earned from bank accounts do not transfer to airlines
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidd75 on January 31, 2018, 01:32:46 PM
if your account has a premier or prestige cc linked to it then all ty points earned from cc's transfer to airlines
however ty points earned from bank accounts do not transfer to airlines

Thanks!
time to sign up for premier card
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidd75 on February 01, 2018, 09:18:22 AM
https://www.anz.com.au/promo/personal/credit-cards/frequent-flyer-black/?cid=di:cc:qantas%7Cb%7Cqsite%7Ccompare&sourcecode_1=IXBC

Is this card applicable to us?

edit:  I guess not have you have to be resident of Australia
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on February 01, 2018, 11:10:30 AM
Anyone know how long it takes Marriott Points to transfer to Qantas?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on February 09, 2018, 11:00:23 AM
Anyone know how long it takes Marriott Points to transfer to Qantas?
DP went through Monday morning australia time, transferred Thursday night us time
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: nishtposhut on February 13, 2018, 12:02:17 PM
What's the best way to transfer UR Points to Qantas for ELAL redemption?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on February 13, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
What's the best way to transfer UR Points to Qantas for ELAL redemption?
Can't transfer UR to Qantas.

Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on February 13, 2018, 12:10:27 PM
Can't transfer UR to Qantas.
You can, but it will be brutal.

https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/mileage-expiration-guide-for-38-loyalty-programs-how-to-keep-your-points-from-expiring-and-how-to-bring-them-back-to-life-after-theyve-expired/
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on February 13, 2018, 12:21:04 PM
You can, but it will be brutal.

https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/mileage-expiration-guide-for-38-loyalty-programs-how-to-keep-your-points-from-expiring-and-how-to-bring-them-back-to-life-after-theyve-expired/
Missed that. So how many UR for 1 Qantas?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: miles lover on February 13, 2018, 01:36:36 PM
Missed that. So how many UR for 1 Qantas?
U would have to transfer ur to marriot and then to Spg at 3-1 . From Spg you can transfer to Quantas. =bad value
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on February 13, 2018, 01:46:23 PM
U would have to transfer ur to marriot and then to Spg at 3-1 . From Spg you can transfer to Quantas. =bad value
SPG doesn't transfer to Qantas only Marriott.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: miles lover on February 13, 2018, 01:49:06 PM
SPG doesn't transfer to Qantas only Marriott.
Your right. Either way bad value...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on February 13, 2018, 01:50:17 PM
Your right. Either way bad value...
I'm lazy to do the math, how many UR for 1 Qantas?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ad120 on February 18, 2018, 08:50:40 PM
Anyone here able to check LY availability with QF on LY  316 LHR to TLV on 04/15/2018?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on February 18, 2018, 09:01:00 PM
Anyone here able to check LY availability with QF on LY  316 LHR to TLV on 04/15/2018?
I can't check QF, but checking LY, there is 1 award seat available in Y on the flight and no award availability in J/F
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ad120 on February 18, 2018, 11:01:58 PM
I can't check QF, but checking LY, there is 1 award seat available in Y on the flight and no award availability in J/F
how many matmid points for Y and how much is YQ?

Anyone else able to check QF? The phone que is awful.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on February 19, 2018, 03:39:24 AM
how many matmid points for Y and how much is YQ?

Anyone else able to check QF? The phone que is awful.

Why don't you just create a Qantas account, and then you'll be able to check at your convenience online.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ad120 on February 19, 2018, 08:33:37 PM
Why don't you just create a Qantas account, and then you'll be able to check at your convenience online.
I did. Having a difficult time searching.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: miles lover on February 19, 2018, 10:21:12 PM
I did. Having a difficult time searching.
Canít search most flights on mobile..
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ad120 on February 20, 2018, 12:11:06 AM
Canít search most flights on mobile..
Ahhh. Thanks.
I called them.
For future reference, it is 20K + £125.81 for LHR to TLV
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ExGingi on February 20, 2018, 01:25:51 PM
I did. Having a difficult time searching.
Did you click on multi-city?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ad120 on February 20, 2018, 10:48:32 PM
Did you click on multi-city?
No.
I was using mobile site.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Coinguy on February 27, 2018, 09:45:20 AM
What does Qantas charge for premium eco EWR- TLV? I see available space on elal for 1600 points
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on February 27, 2018, 02:02:39 PM
What does Qantas charge for premium eco EWR- TLV? I see available space on elal for 1600 points

Unbookable via Qantas.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on February 27, 2018, 02:04:13 PM
Unbookable via Qantas.
DDMS commenter says he was able to book over the phone.

https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-deals/israel-flights/can-now-redeem-qantas-points-online-el-al-travel-north-america-tel-aviv-without-fuel-surcharges/#comment-1344322
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on February 27, 2018, 02:05:21 PM
What does Qantas charge for premium eco EWR- TLV? I see available space on elal for 1600 points
https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-deals/israel-flights/can-now-redeem-qantas-points-online-el-al-travel-north-america-tel-aviv-without-fuel-surcharges/
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: oiseli48 on February 27, 2018, 07:38:11 PM
MIA>TLV availability (according to EF) doesn't show in that search.

Based on the rep I last spoke to, LY pulled the MIA flight from QF. They werenít able to book it over the phone either.

But IME, canít trust the Aussie reps just yet, although I do have a feeling this one sounds true - why else would MIA availability not show, while other US locations do
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on February 27, 2018, 08:15:09 PM
Based on the rep I last spoke to, LY pulled the MIA flight from QF. They werenít able to book it over the phone either.

But IME, canít trust the Aussie reps just yet, although I do have a feeling this one sounds true - why else would MIA availability not show, while other US locations do
Did it ever show?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: oiseli48 on February 28, 2018, 01:11:05 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on February 28, 2018, 10:22:10 AM
Yes
Interesting, its not like MIA is such a hot route that they wouldn't allow Qantas redemtions, if anything they wouldn't allow NYC.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ExGingi on February 28, 2018, 11:13:30 AM
Interesting, its not like MIA is such a hot route that they wouldn't allow Qantas redemtions, if anything they wouldn't allow NYC.
I am not so sure you are correct.

They are exclusive with a non-stop from MIA-TLV and only have a single flight doing that route, and that flight only flies 3x a week. Contrast that with the NYC-TLV route that is served by multiple ELAL daily nonstop flights, 2 UA nontops, and 1 DL nonstop, in addition to a big variety of more or less convenient flights with one stop, that allow for 2 free pieces of luggage.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on February 28, 2018, 11:15:30 AM
I am not so sure you are correct.

They are exclusive with a non-stop from MIA-TLV and only have a single flight doing that route. Contrast that with the NYC-TLV route that is served by multiple ELAL nonstop flights, 2 UA nontops, and 1 DL nonstop, in addition to a big variety of more or less convenient flights with one stop, that allow for 2 free pieces of luggage.
So why do they allow from LAX?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ExGingi on February 28, 2018, 11:17:14 AM
So why do they allow from LAX?
Different equipment. More seat inventory. Also that's a mature route.

I am not saying that I have the definite answer, I am just giving you a counter argument to the one that says that NYC-TLV should be more likely to be restricted.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on February 28, 2018, 11:25:34 AM
Different equipment. More seat inventory. Also that's a mature route.

I am not saying that I have the definite answer, I am just giving you a counter argument to the one that says that NYC-TLV should be more likely to be restricted.
I hear.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on February 28, 2018, 11:56:59 AM


Different equipment.

??
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ExGingi on February 28, 2018, 02:51:37 PM

??
My bad. I thought LAX-TLV was 744.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: harrym on March 14, 2018, 04:26:58 PM
F redemption doesn't work anymore to LON?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: miles lover on March 18, 2018, 12:19:15 PM
The fee for changing or canceling reservation with quantas is per ticket booked  or reservation ?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: arihut on March 18, 2018, 04:13:13 PM
There is now premium economy availability for el al on qantas's website.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on March 18, 2018, 09:30:38 PM
Check P from EWR to TLV RT - LY is 110k Amex plus $350 - QF 126k plus ? in tax
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: hvaces42 on March 18, 2018, 09:34:28 PM
There is now premium economy availability for el al on qantas's website.
And then they swap out equipment like they did last week and put PE revenue pax in Y
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on March 19, 2018, 12:48:00 AM
And then they swap out equipment like they did last week and put PE revenue pax in Y
When LOT had a charter acft in Aug/Sep they put all Premium Economy pax in Business
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: damaxer91 on March 20, 2018, 11:35:07 AM
Does LY F not show up on QF site anymore, even to Asia? Searching TLV-BKK on dates where there are plenty of F awards open and zilch
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2018, 11:47:19 AM
Does LY F not show up on QF site anymore, even to Asia? Searching TLV-BKK on dates where there are plenty of F awards open and zilch
Hasn't been bookable online for a while now.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: elya on March 21, 2018, 12:10:34 PM
Hasn't been bookable at all for a while now.
FTFY  ;)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on April 22, 2018, 11:32:19 AM
Wow, LY has excellent availability in the summer to/from NYC.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on April 25, 2018, 07:37:35 PM
Hasn't been bookable online for a while now.

Is Ath-TLV also not bookable online?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on April 26, 2018, 09:46:50 PM
If I book an economy ticket on Qantas because business is not available, and then business becomes available, would i be able to simply pay the difference and upgrade?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on April 26, 2018, 09:53:55 PM
If I book an economy ticket on Qantas because business is not available, and then business becomes available, would i be able to simply pay the difference and upgrade?
you have to pay a change fee of 5k QF plus the difference
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on April 29, 2018, 08:53:49 AM
So expertflyer shows 3 seats for "Business points upgrade" but no seats for "Business award". And on Qantas all i see is economy.
So does that mean that if i book economy on QF, that I can upgrade the seat to business somehow?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on April 29, 2018, 05:40:31 PM
So expertflyer shows 3 seats for "Business points upgrade" but no seats for "Business award". And on Qantas all i see is economy.
So does that mean that if i book economy on QF, that I can upgrade the seat to business somehow?
To use R you must buy an upgradable (expensive) economy ticket, you can't upgrade an award
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on April 29, 2018, 05:41:43 PM
To use R you must buy an upgradable (expensive) economy ticket, you can't upgrade an award

Thank you.

Do you know how likely it is that Elal releases more award space?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on May 04, 2018, 11:09:12 AM
Anyone else having issue searching award availability on Qantas the past 24 hours?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Jack-L on May 08, 2018, 12:20:46 PM
Its still not working.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on May 08, 2018, 08:48:54 PM
Its still not working.

It is. I booked yesterday.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: helpyouamdme on May 29, 2018, 05:04:26 PM
Can anyone with a Qantas account check for me if there is available any award seats on EL AL flight LY 318 from LHR  to TLV on Sep 20 deparching 10:30 pm? Thanks Tooooonnnnns
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on May 29, 2018, 05:07:08 PM
Can anyone with a Qantas account check for me if there is available any award seats on EL AL flight LY 318 from LHR  to TLV on Sep 20 deparching 10:30 pm? Thanks Tooooonnnnns
You can check on Matmid as well, it should be the same.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ExGingi on May 29, 2018, 05:09:47 PM
Can anyone with a Qantas account check for me if there is available any award seats on EL AL flight LY 318 from LHR  to TLV on Sep 20 deparching 10:30 pm? Thanks Tooooonnnnns
IINM anyone can open a Qantas account online and then search availability, even if no points in the account.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: helpyouamdme on May 29, 2018, 05:12:11 PM
You can check on Matmid as well, it should be the same.
I tried to open a Matmid account and it's not going at the moment. do you mined to check for me i really need it ASAP Thanks
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: helpyouamdme on May 29, 2018, 05:13:43 PM
IINM anyone can open a Qantas account online and then search availability, even if no points in the account.
link? This is what it's telling me that you have to call https://www.qantas.com/fflyer/dyn/QantasClubJoin/US
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Jack-L on May 29, 2018, 05:17:26 PM
Can anyone with a Qantas account check for me if there is available any award seats on EL AL flight LY 318 from LHR  to TLV on Sep 20 deparching 10:30 pm? Thanks Tooooonnnnns

No Availability.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on May 29, 2018, 05:18:06 PM
IINM anyone can open a Qantas account online and then search availability, even if no points in the account.
+1
https://www.qantas.com/fflyer/dyn/joinff
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on May 29, 2018, 07:25:41 PM
Or use expert flyer
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yankel on May 30, 2018, 10:08:57 AM
I just read through the thread and am still missing a basic understanding.

Can I transfer SPG or Amex MR to Quantas?

I checked my amex and spg accounts and their doesnt seem to be a way. Am I missing something?

Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on May 30, 2018, 10:21:10 AM
I just read through the thread and am still missing a basic understanding.

Can I transfer SPG or Amex MR to Quantas?

I checked my amex and spg accounts and their doesnt seem to be a way. Am I missing something?

Need to transfer to Marriott
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yankel on May 30, 2018, 10:39:30 AM
Thanks! do you know how long it takes? I saw somewhere 2 business days. is that accurate?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: sb5917 on July 11, 2018, 02:58:06 PM
how much is tax tlv-ny ny-tlv ?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: GAM Z. on July 11, 2018, 04:03:14 PM
Thanks! do you know how long it takes? I saw somewhere 2 business days. is that accurate?
DP went through Monday morning australia time, transferred Thursday night us time
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on July 11, 2018, 08:40:44 PM
how much is tax tlv-ny ny-tlv ?

I think $5.60 NY-TLV and around $50-70 back
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: sb5917 on July 11, 2018, 09:29:32 PM
I think $5.60 NY-TLV and around $50-70 back
Thanks
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on August 25, 2018, 11:48:49 PM
Anyone able to book MIA (yes I read the posts that say its possible and yes I read this whole thread)

I call and all the reps (with Aussi accents) tell me ELAL is not a partner of Qantas or just 'No'??

Thanks
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: oiseli48 on August 26, 2018, 01:42:24 AM
Anyone able to book MIA (yes I read the posts that say its possible and yes I read this whole thread)

I call and all the reps (with Aussi accents) tell me ELAL is not a partner of Qantas or just 'No'??

Thanks

No you canít book Miami.

It used to be possible, Iíve booked it myself when it was. It no longer works, for whatever reason, just like first class no longer works.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on August 26, 2018, 09:43:01 AM
No you canít book Miami.

It used to be possible, Iíve booked it myself when it was. It no longer works, for whatever reason, just like first class no longer works.
thnxs
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Denverite on August 26, 2018, 04:10:16 PM
Is this searchable online with Quantas?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: elya on August 26, 2018, 08:42:31 PM
Is this searchable online with Quantas?
Sure
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: lindnuck on October 09, 2018, 09:09:24 PM
I'm seeing availability for my dates and want to transfer from Marriott. From what I'm seeing here, it can take 3-4 days? Any way to minimize the risk of the delay? I tried calling to see if they'll put a hold but they said they can't.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ib3 on October 10, 2018, 01:56:00 PM
Any way to search direct flights only? I noticed that you can get a calendar with all available dates if you choose initially a date that has no availability. However this will include connecting flights as well.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on October 10, 2018, 01:56:30 PM
Any way to search direct flights only? I noticed that you can get a calendar with all available dates if you choose initially a date that has no availability. However this will include connecting flights as well.
EF
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on October 10, 2018, 01:58:11 PM
Any way to search direct flights only? I noticed that you can get a calendar with all available dates if you choose initially a date that has no availability. However this will include connecting flights as well.
LY's site.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ib3 on October 10, 2018, 02:12:02 PM
And look for what? See if Matmid redemption is available?
LY's site.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: lindnuck on October 10, 2018, 02:14:55 PM
I'm seeing availability for my dates and want to transfer from Marriott. From what I'm seeing here, it can take 3-4 days? Any way to minimize the risk of the delay? I tried calling to see if they'll put a hold but they said they can't.

Since I didn't see any responses here, I just went for it. Called Marriott to see how long the transfer would take, and they called their rep at Qantas who told them that the points transfers all get collected during the week, and then get processed on Saturdays. She told me to expect to see the points hit my account Wed/Thu next week. So in the end, it could take 8-9 days for transfer! I'll update with the actual timing, but this seems ripe for getting your points stuck in Qantas.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: farmbochur on October 10, 2018, 02:21:58 PM
Since I didn't see any responses here, I just went for it. Called Marriott to see how long the transfer would take, and they called their rep at Qantas who told them that the points transfers all get collected during the week, and then get processed on Saturdays. She told me to expect to see the points hit my account Wed/Thu next week. So in the end, it could take 8-9 days for transfer! I'll update with the actual timing, but this seems ripe for getting your points stuck in Qantas.
After transfers from Citi quicker?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: lindnuck on October 10, 2018, 02:25:38 PM
After transfers from Citi quicker?

I thought I had 26k TY points but turns out most were not transferrable since they were from my bank account.

I did transfer 1k as a test, it said I should expect them in 24 hours. We'll see, but kind of moot since I have to wait on Marriott.  Marriott has a better transfer ratio anyway, though.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on October 10, 2018, 02:29:14 PM
And look for what? See if Matmid redemption is available?
Correct, Qantas should have the same availability.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: farmbochur on October 10, 2018, 02:33:50 PM


  Marriott has a better transfer ratio anyway, though.
But 4.5x harder to accumulate
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on October 10, 2018, 02:41:31 PM
whats the chances within the year another point type (chase or amex for example) becomes transferable to Qantos?  Whats the chances that if that happens availability will vanish.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: lindnuck on October 10, 2018, 03:08:37 PM
But 4.5x harder to accumulate

Now? Correct. But I signed up for the 35k SPG offer x2 before it went away, and maxed my spend on SPG until they devalued this summer.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on October 10, 2018, 04:26:30 PM
After transfers from Citi quicker?

My transfer posted within 24 hours.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on October 10, 2018, 05:37:46 PM
Guys I just flew J with Qantos and did the booking - they say 9 days but thats nonsense - you will get it within 3 likely.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: lindnuck on October 14, 2018, 03:02:58 PM
Since I didn't see any responses here, I just went for it. Called Marriott to see how long the transfer would take, and they called their rep at Qantas who told them that the points transfers all get collected during the week, and then get processed on Saturdays. She told me to expect to see the points hit my account Wed/Thu next week. So in the end, it could take 8-9 days for transfer! I'll update with the actual timing, but this seems ripe for getting your points stuck in Qantas.

All the Marriott points have transferred now after 5 days. But prior to that i transferred 1,000 TY and they still have not appeared in my account, leaving me 1k short for my reservation. I could top off for $35, but apparently not since my Qantas account is less than 30 days old.

Anyone know how long TY points should take to transfer? All the articles I've read online say 2 days, but it's been 5. Citibank's T&Cs say up to 14 days, but that hopefully is not accurate.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: lindnuck on October 15, 2018, 02:40:56 AM
All the Marriott points have transferred now after 5 days. But prior to that i transferred 1,000 TY and they still have not appeared in my account, leaving me 1k short for my reservation. I could top off for $35, but apparently not since my Qantas account is less than 30 days old.

Anyone know how long TY points should take to transfer? All the articles I've read online say 2 days, but it's been 5. Citibank's T&Cs say up to 14 days, but that hopefully is not accurate.

NVM, Citibank points came in about 12 hours later, and I was luckily able to make the Qantas booking with no issues (so far!).
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on October 15, 2018, 04:25:54 AM
Just as a data point, my TY to Qantas transfer only took a day (1K just to test)

I'm curious to see how long a transfer from Barclays takes, but it's 5K minimum and I don't feel like doing it until I definitely need to book...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: lindnuck on October 15, 2018, 03:25:32 PM
Just as a data point, my TY to Qantas transfer only took a day (1K just to test)

I'm curious to see how long a transfer from Barclays takes, but it's 5K minimum and I don't feel like doing it until I definitely need to book...

That's interesting. What day did you test it? When I called Marriott last week, they said that all requests are bundled and processed on Saturdays, so if you did it closer to that day (I did Tuesday), perhaps that's why you got speedier transfer. Obviously you were using TY not Marriott, but I'm guessing it is processed similarly.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: AJK on October 15, 2018, 04:07:58 PM
TY-QF took 4 days for me.

Thurs late afternoon/evening xfer, appeared mon morning.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: coralsnake on October 20, 2018, 08:44:58 PM
All the Marriott points have transferred now after 5 days. But prior to that i transferred 1,000 TY and they still have not appeared in my account, leaving me 1k short for my reservation. I could top off for $35, but apparently not since my Qantas account is less than 30 days old.

Anyone know how long TY points should take to transfer? All the articles I've read online say 2 days, but it's been 5. Citibank's T&Cs say up to 14 days, but that hopefully is not accurate.
What day of the week did you transfer and what day did it arrive?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: lindnuck on October 21, 2018, 05:50:36 PM
What day of the week did you transfer and what day did it arrive?

That's interesting. What day did you test it? When I called Marriott last week, they said that all requests are bundled and processed on Saturdays, so if you did it closer to that day (I did Tuesday), perhaps that's why you got speedier transfer. Obviously you were using TY not Marriott, but I'm guessing it is processed similarly.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on October 28, 2018, 01:13:39 AM
Do El Al award tickets to Europe booked via Qantas also include free luggage like those booked via Matmid (coach)?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Baglach on October 28, 2018, 04:42:13 AM
Do El Al award tickets to Europe booked via Qantas also include free luggage like those booked via Matmid (coach)?
It books into same Fare so it should give it
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on October 29, 2018, 02:16:02 PM
Do El Al award tickets to Europe booked via Qantas also include free luggage like those booked via Matmid (coach)?
why not?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on November 04, 2018, 06:36:50 PM
Does it cost to change dates for ElAl tickets booked with Qantas? If so, how much? Also, how much is the cancellation fee?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 04, 2018, 06:40:57 PM
Does it cost to change dates for ElAl tickets booked with Qantas? If so, how much? Also, how much is the cancellation fee?
5k change, 6k to cancel.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on November 04, 2018, 06:44:51 PM
5k change, 6k to cancel.
Thanks! Per ticket I'm assuming?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: miles lover on November 05, 2018, 12:52:30 AM
Thanks! Per ticket I'm assuming?
Yes
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on November 05, 2018, 06:45:10 AM
5k change, 6k to cancel.
thats in miles i assume, what if you rather pay?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on November 09, 2018, 02:47:49 PM
what are taxes from jfk-tlv?
also, can someone please link me to the elal dreamliner page? is j a good product? i want to research that option
seat is available the day i want to go but i am very hesitant to fly LY. if the seat (and (is it lie flat) bed) etc are good, i would book
TIA 
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on November 09, 2018, 04:05:08 PM
what are taxes from jfk-tlv?
also, can someone please link me to the elal dreamliner page? is j a good product? i want to research that option
seat is available the day i want to go but i am very hesitant to fly LY. if the seat (and (is it lie flat) bed) etc are good, i would book
TIA
deff book it, the quantos page will say if its the dreamliner (says 787-9) itsa great great product - book single seat with you facing window.

its as good or better then ua poloris.


tax's is like $60

what date r u going?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: hide4 on November 10, 2018, 11:24:37 AM
deff book it, the quantos page will say if its the dreamliner (says 787-9) itsa great great product - book single seat with you facing window.

its as good or better then ua poloris.


tax's is like $60


what date r u going?
-1 that's going from TLV-JFK. From JFK it's 9.60 or so.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on November 10, 2018, 04:27:25 PM
book single seat with you facing window.
why?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on November 10, 2018, 04:51:35 PM
is it worth booking e+ over Y? is it wroth the extra 21K?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: hide4 on November 10, 2018, 05:25:53 PM
why?
In those seats the table is in between you and the aisle, and you're facing away from the aisle, so it's more private.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on November 10, 2018, 08:09:19 PM
In those seats the table is in between you and the aisle, and you're facing away from the aisle, so it's more private.

+1
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on November 10, 2018, 11:26:04 PM
deff book it, the quantos page will say if its the dreamliner (says 787-9) itsa great great product - book single seat with you facing window.

its as good or better then ua poloris.


tax's is like $60

what date r u going?
so an even row seat? table by aisle?
i just transferred my TY points but didnt post to QF yet
when they do i will book
i assume there is no way to hold seats with qf? if there are, any help would be appreciated
TIA
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on November 10, 2018, 11:54:06 PM
Why when I put in NYC or JFK it doesnít come up? Says invalid airport code .....
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on November 11, 2018, 12:09:03 AM
Why when I put in NYC or JFK it doesnít come up? Says invalid airport code .....
jfk or ewr
it wont recognize nyc
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on November 11, 2018, 01:48:59 PM
does anyone have a screen shot of what the taxes are jfk-tlv using QF?
i just called QF to see if they can put on hold until TY points transferred bec it wouldnt let me get past availability screen and was told cant hold but its going to be 38 AUD converting to 27 USD.
any experience?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on November 11, 2018, 02:12:43 PM
does anyone have a screen shot of what the taxes are jfk-tlv using QF?
i just called QF to see if they can put on hold until TY points transferred bec it wouldnt let me get past availability screen and was told cant hold but its going to be 38 AUD converting to 27 USD.
any experience?
That's probably including a phone booking fee
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on November 11, 2018, 02:28:07 PM
does anyone have a screen shot of what the taxes are jfk-tlv using QF?
i just called QF to see if they can put on hold until TY points transferred bec it wouldnt let me get past availability screen and was told cant hold but its going to be 38 AUD converting to 27 USD.
any experience?
the DDMS post has a screenshot. $9.60
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on November 11, 2018, 02:51:05 PM
the DDMS post has a screenshot. $9.60
couldnt find
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on November 11, 2018, 02:51:57 PM
That's probably including a phone booking fee
rep said it wasnt . will come back here and update once points post and then i should be able to book online
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on November 11, 2018, 03:32:20 PM
couldnt find
https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-deals/israel-flights/can-now-redeem-qantas-points-online-el-al-travel-north-america-tel-aviv-without-fuel-surcharges/
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on November 11, 2018, 03:35:57 PM
https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-deals/israel-flights/can-now-redeem-qantas-points-online-el-al-travel-north-america-tel-aviv-without-fuel-surcharges/
thx
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Solma on November 11, 2018, 03:58:49 PM
rep said it wasnt . will come back here and update once points post and then i should be able to book online

Just Booked online JFK to TLV in J on LY thru QF and taxes were 27.90 USD. (it used to be $9.60)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on November 11, 2018, 04:25:37 PM
is it worth booking e+ over Y? is it wroth the extra 21K?
anyone?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: miles lover on November 11, 2018, 08:02:48 PM
anyone?
I would say itís worth it but it all depends on what kind of person you are..
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 11, 2018, 08:05:04 PM
I would say itís worth it but it all depends on what kind of person you are..
Its like asking is it worth double the mileage for J...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: miles lover on November 11, 2018, 08:06:40 PM
Its like asking is it worth double the mileage for J...
Difference is people donít know what premium economy is. With Elal itís pretty good..
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on November 11, 2018, 10:28:14 PM
can u hold qantos rewards if points didnt post?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: miles lover on November 12, 2018, 03:55:47 AM
can u hold qantos rewards if points didnt post?
No
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ABC on November 12, 2018, 08:13:36 AM
anyone?

On a Dreamliner it's worth it otherwise not really.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on November 12, 2018, 08:38:31 AM
On a Dreamliner it's worth it otherwise not really.
If it's not the Dreamliner, it's E+, not PE.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on November 12, 2018, 08:51:54 AM
Just Booked online JFK to TLV in J on LY thru QF and taxes were 27.90 USD. (it used to be $9.60)
when?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on November 12, 2018, 09:20:17 AM
rep said it wasnt . will come back here and update once points post and then i should be able to book online
citi TY points posted

Total Amount
Points available 78,000
Number of seats 1
Qantas Points & Cash
Trip Price for - 1 x Adult:   78,000
Total Trip Price:   78,000
Points required   78,000
Points balance after this booking   0
Card Payment *   $27.90 (USD)
*  The card payment amount comprises taxes, fees and USD $0.00 for carrier charges that you must pay, in addition to the points required for the Classic Reward. This amount excludes any local airport fees collected at the time of check-in, which you must pay.


Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on November 12, 2018, 06:34:17 PM
citi TY points posted

Total Amount
Points available 78,000
Number of seats 1
Qantas Points & Cash
Trip Price for - 1 x Adult:   78,000
Total Trip Price:   78,000
Points required   78,000
Points balance after this booking   0
Card Payment *   $27.90 (USD)
*  The card payment amount comprises taxes, fees and USD $0.00 for carrier charges that you must pay, in addition to the points required for the Classic Reward. This amount excludes any local airport fees collected at the time of check-in, which you must pay.

Just checked. Y is still $9.60 and PE and J is $27.90
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on November 12, 2018, 09:13:22 PM
Just checked. Y is still $9.60 and PE and J is $27.90
i guess i wasnt looking for Y  ;)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on November 18, 2018, 09:29:17 PM
DP went through Monday morning australia time, transferred Thursday night us time
I'm standing by this data point, I hope transfers all go through Monday morning australia time.
I have a transfer that I put through last Motzai Shabbos, not yet in Qantas account
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on November 18, 2018, 09:31:58 PM
I'm standing by this data point, I hope transfers all go through Monday morning australia time.
I have a transfer that I put through last Motzai Shabbos, not yet in Qantas account
let us know when it posts but not sure its australia time. mine posted est .
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on November 19, 2018, 09:17:33 AM
let us know when it posts but not sure its australia time. mine posted est .
still nothing :(
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on November 19, 2018, 05:50:02 PM
I give up, still didn't post. who do I call, Marriott or qantas?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Yaalili on November 19, 2018, 07:18:57 PM
I give up, still didn't post. who do I call, Marriott or qantas?

Marriott.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on November 19, 2018, 08:57:03 PM
Marriott.
called. they agree it should have posted, and sent a note to Qantas... thanks
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on November 22, 2018, 11:17:57 AM
called. they agree it should have posted, and sent a note to Qantas... thanks
call customer svc tell them you want to file a formal complaint and need a fax number (for quicker response than by mail) for corporate, and send a letter.  i have done this in the past when regular (or overseas) agents couldnt help and have had success.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on November 22, 2018, 11:38:22 AM
anyone know how much taxes are from TLV-LHR
in PE on LY using QF?
in j on BA using QF?
for BA flight in j, BA wants 31,250 +241.81 and AA wants 42,500 + 66.81. QF is 38,000
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on November 22, 2018, 09:53:32 PM
I give up, still didn't post. who do I call, Marriott or qantas?
was browsing marriott earlier. from their t&c

3.11.c. Once Points have been redeemed for Miles with a participating airline frequent flyer program or other airline-affiliated loyalty program, Miles will automatically be transferred to the Memberís frequent flyer or airline-affiliated loyalty program account. Please allow approximately six (6) weeks for Miles to be posted to your account.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on November 23, 2018, 02:55:55 AM
I'm going to wait until Monday that's the day they usually go through.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on November 27, 2018, 05:07:02 PM
was browsing marriott earlier. from their t&c

3.11.c. Once Points have been redeemed for Miles with a participating airline frequent flyer program or other airline-affiliated loyalty program, Miles will automatically be transferred to the Memberís frequent flyer or airline-affiliated loyalty program account. Please allow approximately six (6) weeks for Miles to be posted to your account.
still nothing spoke to Marriott and Qantas, and getting the six week line from both. bummer
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on November 28, 2018, 11:57:39 AM
my citithank u is taking really long as well to transfer
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on November 28, 2018, 11:58:05 AM
Guys in December do you think availability will plummet cause now people will be able to transfer capital one?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on November 28, 2018, 12:11:44 PM
Guys in December do you think availability will plummet cause now people will be able to transfer capital one?
Availability is already plummeted
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on November 28, 2018, 12:25:00 PM
Availability is already plummeted
thats true but people can only get with citity and amex AU so there still is a nice amount.....obviously no one is getting pesach but if u wana fly j theres a lot (albeit not redeye).

I feel it will all go in a sec like united (every cc goes into united)....


aka should i hold on or book all my qantas points elal flights a year in advance
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on November 28, 2018, 12:27:28 PM
thats true but people can only get with citity and amex AU so there still is a nice amount.....obviously no one is getting pesach but if u wana fly j theres a lot (albeit not redeye).

I feel it will all go in a sec like united (every cc goes into united)....


aka should i hold on or book all my qantas points elal flights a year in advance
There are a lot of incorrect factual points in your statement
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on November 28, 2018, 12:33:38 PM
There are a lot of incorrect factual points in your statement

Ummm care to explain?

I have booked many J class with qantas and have been doing this for a while? What is incorrect? That you can also get miles with flights earned or starwood at a bad rate?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on November 28, 2018, 12:39:57 PM
Ummm care to explain?


sure.. There is not a lot of availability in J even off peak usually a seat or 2 here and there. Nothing like before where there were at times 5-8 seats per flight

(I am not talking about LY expanded for their own members)

All CCs transfer to united? no only Chase and MT

United not having direct flights available has nothing to do with the fact that their miles are easily attainable. They do not release seats to begin with
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on November 28, 2018, 01:00:27 PM
sure.. There is not a lot of availability in J even off peak usually a seat or 2 here and there. Nothing like before where there were at times 5-8 seats per flight

(I am not talking about LY expanded for their own members)

All CCs transfer to united? no only Chase and MT

United not having direct flights available has nothing to do with the fact that their miles are easily attainable. They do not release seats to begin with
I believe the decrease in availability has to do with reduced amount of seats on the new aircraft.
Regarding all cc transferring to UA, I believe he meant a partner that can book UA
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on November 28, 2018, 06:32:37 PM
sure.. There is not a lot of availability in J even off peak usually a seat or 2 here and there. Nothing like before where there were at times 5-8 seats per flight

(I am not talking about LY expanded for their own members)

All CCs transfer to united? no only Chase and MT

United not having direct flights available has nothing to do with the fact that their miles are easily attainable. They do not release seats to begin with
Thanks..sorry didnt mean to sound rude
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on November 28, 2018, 06:33:11 PM
I believe the decrease in availability has to do with reduced amount of seats on the new aircraft.
Regarding all cc transferring to UA, I believe he meant a partner that can book UA
Interesting, didnt think of that

Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on December 13, 2018, 02:46:09 AM
I'm standing by this data point, I hope transfers all go through Monday morning australia time.
I have a transfer that I put through last Motzai Shabbos, not yet in Qantas account
No longer standing by this data point. Been a month. Nada.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ein oid melvado on December 13, 2018, 11:24:55 AM
anyone have succes booking bos-tlv flight over the phone
they told me that they cant book it
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: AJK on December 15, 2018, 08:11:58 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on December 15, 2018, 09:26:44 PM
No longer standing by this data point. Been a month. Nada.
did you try calling to make sure all info was accurate ?? might need some manual leg work. i know citi TY  CS can be real bad
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on December 15, 2018, 09:41:36 PM
did you try calling to make sure all info was accurate ?? might need some manual leg work. i know citi TY  CS can be real bad
Yup. Will try again if it doesn't post this Monday
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on December 16, 2018, 09:42:11 AM
Yes.
u huta?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: AJK on December 16, 2018, 09:53:19 AM
No need.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: rollingstone on December 16, 2018, 10:00:03 AM
No longer standing by this data point. Been a month. Nada.
I had a transfer to QF delayed around 3 weeks. I called MT and rep was really helpful, he claimed he reached out to QF to expedite the transfer and points should post in account within 48 hours. 40 hours later they were in the account. The rep was even kind enough to email me 2 days later to follow up.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on December 16, 2018, 12:53:49 PM
can anyone tell me how much YQ is with QF from tlv-cdg on LY? points are Y 20,000 qf and j 38,000 qf. and is the 737-900 a worthwhile option in j for 38k for the 5 hour am flight??
or avoid el al for this kleg at all cost...
on LY dreamliner jfk-tlv then stopping in paris for a day then aa home...
thanks much
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on December 16, 2018, 01:10:30 PM
can anyone tell me how much YQ is with QF from tlv-cdg on LY? points are Y 20,000 qf and j 38,000 qf. and is the 737-900 a worthwhile option in j for 38k for the 5 hour am flight??
or avoid el al for this kleg at all cost...
on LY dreamliner jfk-tlv then stopping in paris for a day then aa home...
thanks much
About half (or more) of the flights to CDG with El Al are jumbo aircraft (mostly 787 and 767 - but from time to time also 772 and 747). Maybe try to get for one of those. But I believe even the 737-900 isn't too bad. It's recliner seats, not lie-flat.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on December 18, 2018, 02:11:37 PM
Anyone know what's the cancellation fee for LY bookings with QF?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on December 18, 2018, 02:12:02 PM
Anyone know what's the cancellation fee for LY bookings with QF?
6K QF
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on December 18, 2018, 02:24:29 PM
6K QF
Thanks. And taxes are refunded in full?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on December 18, 2018, 02:42:02 PM
Thanks. And taxes are refunded in full?
yes
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on December 18, 2018, 02:45:17 PM
yes
Thanks
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Sam P on December 18, 2018, 07:13:17 PM
If I cancel QF round trip ticket. Do I get charged 6K for the canceling the reservation? Or 6K each way?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on December 18, 2018, 07:17:21 PM
If I cancel QF round trip ticket. Do I get charged 6K for the canceling the reservation? Or 6K each way?
should be only 6K but I donít know for sure
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Jkhein on December 18, 2018, 09:27:43 PM
any way to really know how long a transfer will take? from reading peoples experiences above looks like it can take over a month... whats the official transfer time?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on December 19, 2018, 02:40:22 AM
How long is the transfer time from Citi? Also a nightmare or is that only Marriott?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on December 22, 2018, 11:30:59 PM
Why when I type TLV in to destination it says sorry we donít recognize TLV as an airport?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on December 23, 2018, 07:40:53 AM
Why when I type TLV in to destination it says sorry we donít recognize TLV as an airport?
are you logged in? Are you doing a classic award search?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on December 23, 2018, 08:18:08 AM
are you logged in?
Yes
Are you doing a classic award search?
Yes
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on December 23, 2018, 08:53:45 AM
Tried desktop site?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on December 23, 2018, 10:11:41 AM
Tried desktop site?
No, Tried on mobile device.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on December 23, 2018, 11:21:10 AM
No, Tried on mobile device.
doesnt work on mobile
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on December 23, 2018, 12:29:42 PM
doesnt work on mobile
Thanks got it.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on December 24, 2018, 08:38:56 PM
Yup. Will try again if it doesn't post this Monday
I had a transfer to QF delayed around 3 weeks. I called MT and rep was really helpful, he claimed he reached out to QF to expedite the transfer and points should post in account within 48 hours. 40 hours later they were in the account. The rep was even kind enough to email me 2 days later to follow up.
Finally posted (I have to confirm it's the right amount), I called Thursday , got a supervisor, who told me that there is a single person on the Marriott side in charge of the transfers. She sent that person an email and gave them all my info. Said I should hear from said person soon.
I didn't hear from anybody (and unfortunately I couldn't get a contact name or info for them), but the points posted today.
Chasdei Hashem, the flight I needed was still available.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: rollingstone on December 24, 2018, 08:40:47 PM
Finally posted (I have to confirm it's the right amount), I called Thursday , got a supervisor, who told me that there is a single person on the Marriott side in charge of the transfers. She sent that person an email and gave them all my info. Said I should hear from said person soon.
I didn't hear from anybody (and unfortunately I couldn't get a contact name or info for them), but the points posted today.
Chasdei Hashem, the flight I needed was still available.
Nice! Glad to hear everything worked out.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moisheyb on December 25, 2018, 02:08:35 AM
Having issues pulling up sez and cmb airport on Qantas site. I am logged in and on a desktop
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on December 25, 2018, 12:17:01 PM
Finally posted (I have to confirm it's the right amount), I called Thursday , got a supervisor, who told me that there is a single person on the Marriott side in charge of the transfers. She sent that person an email and gave them all my info. Said I should hear from said person soon.
I didn't hear from anybody (and unfortunately I couldn't get a contact name or info for them), but the points posted today.
Chasdei Hashem, the flight I needed was still available.
so almost six weeks?
and is the pain of flying LY worth it? i am booked end of jan jfk-tlv dreamliner j and after everything going on, i'm second guessing myself
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on December 25, 2018, 12:35:59 PM
so almost six weeks?
and is the pain of flying LY worth it? i am booked end of jan jfk-tlv dreamliner j and after everything going on, i'm second guessing myself
For this case, yes. I land in Israel via UA SFO-TLV Monday night. Would like to be back in LAX by 9am Wednesday. This way I get a day in Israel and fly direct back in J where hopefully I'll sleep
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on December 25, 2018, 12:49:33 PM
so almost six weeks?
and is the pain of flying LY worth it? i am booked end of jan jfk-tlv dreamliner j and after everything going on, i'm second guessing myself
No need to excuse yourself for flying El Al. There's a 98%+ chance you will have a very positive experience. The vast majority of people bashing El Al on DDF have never flown El Al and most definitely not in a premium class.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: YesThatsMe on December 25, 2018, 12:50:55 PM
No need to excuse yourself for flying El Al. There's a 98%+ chance you will have a very positive experience. The vast majority of people bashing El Al on DDF have never flown El Al and most definitely not in a premium class.

+1000
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: hide4 on December 25, 2018, 01:08:29 PM
No need to excuse yourself for flying El Al. There's a 98%+ chance you will have a very positive experience. The vast majority of people bashing El Al on DDF have never flown El Al and most definitely not in a premium class.
Well said.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on December 25, 2018, 01:34:38 PM
+1000
Well said.
No need to excuse yourself for flying El Al. There's a 98%+ chance you will have a very positive experience. The vast majority of people bashing El Al on DDF have never flown El Al and most definitely not in a premium class.
my question was more if the LY hard and soft products are worth the aggravation and 6 week wait for points to post  opposed to another option. didnt ask anyone to excuse themselves for flying LY. i am booked end of jan for convenience as well
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ual902 on December 25, 2018, 06:11:57 PM
1. CapitalOne to QF transfer time?

2. Also it is no issue to transfer points QF family points to other QF family members?

-Thanks
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Denverite on December 26, 2018, 06:42:16 PM
so almost six weeks?
and is the pain of flying LY worth it? i am booked end of jan jfk-tlv dreamliner j and after everything going on, i'm second guessing myself

This isn't directly related to the thread but I just had a crazy long time on an SPG to ANA transfer that took almost 4 weeks, the day before I had transfered from regular Amex (I need SPG for the last 25k of points) and it was only 48 hours...I think Marriott is the one causing all these ridiculous transfer times...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Ekay on January 31, 2019, 02:24:02 PM
Wanna book a j class on ly using QF points.

Firstly how can I transfer from ur or mr to QF?

Secondly I see on this thread  it takes a few days to post. What happens if by the time it posts in QF there is no more availability? Donít want my points stuck there....
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: elya on January 31, 2019, 02:38:09 PM
Firstly how can I transfer from ur or mr to QF?
You can't.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on February 13, 2019, 03:58:33 PM
anyone have experience booking LY with QF points LHR-TLV? Premium economy seems to be the same 30k as LY (when transferring MR) and i would like to get the taxes info because LY is very expensive
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a mirrer on February 14, 2019, 04:32:23 AM
anyone have experience booking LY with QF points LHR-TLV? Premium economy seems to be the same 30k as LY (when transferring MR) and i would like to get the taxes info because LY is very expensive
premium classes out of UK always very taxes but QF should bee about $100 cheaper than LY
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on February 14, 2019, 06:42:09 AM
premium classes out of UK always very taxes but QF should bee about $100 cheaper than LY
im pretty sure itís cheaper to use LY on that route
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on February 14, 2019, 08:32:29 AM
premium classes out of UK always very taxes but QF should bee about $100 cheaper than LY
Premium economy should have the same tax as economy.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mikaelrap on February 26, 2019, 02:22:12 PM
I am about to book a one way ELAL flight using qantas points. I am booking for an adult and infant (lap ticket) but I see that there is almost no charges (only a few $) for adding the infant. Will Elal allow the infant to board or will they charge me extra at the checkin counter?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on February 26, 2019, 04:12:43 PM
I am about to book a one way ELAL flight using qantas points. I am booking for an adult and infant (lap ticket) but I see that there is almost no charges (only a few $) for adding the infant. Will Elal allow the infant to board or will they charge me extra at the checkin counter?
They will allow the infant to board. QF doesn't charge much for infants that is one of the benefits of using them.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on February 26, 2019, 06:34:49 PM
Premium economy should have the same tax as economy.
PE pays more tax, something in the tax code with a wall that separates the cabins, and DL stopped selling W as a separate cabin for UK agencies. I'm talking offhand here don't have all the exact info to my hand at the moment
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: helpyouamdme on March 01, 2019, 01:26:01 AM
Please help me, I transferred Marriott Rewards to Qantas it's still not showing up in my account, i emergency need to book the Sunday morning flight tlv-jfk, any suggestions? can anyone here book for me for exchange? please help  Its 63k
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: helpyouamdme on March 01, 2019, 01:29:37 PM
Please help me, I transferred Marriott Rewards to Qantas it's still not showing up in my account, i emergency need to book the Sunday morning flight tlv-jfk, any suggestions? can anyone here book for me for exchange? please help  Its 63k
update i got united savor award 11:10 pm flight on march 2.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Denverite on March 01, 2019, 07:05:11 PM
Please help me, I transferred Marriott Rewards to Qantas it's still not showing up in my account, i emergency need to book the Sunday morning flight tlv-jfk, any suggestions? can anyone here book for me for exchange? please help  Its 63k

Not totally related but I wouldnít hold your breath as my last Marriott to Airline transfer took almost a month to Post!  >:(
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zow on June 04, 2019, 08:49:53 AM
Data point: my experience booking LY BOS-TLV in J with QF.

It is well known that this routing does not show on qantas.com. Others have reported being able to book it by phone, though some have had to HUCA.

I called and got an agent who said she could see availability but that she could not book it.  Said the only LY US gateways they could book were NYC and LAX.  She asked a manager and confirmed.   Click.

When I called back, I decided to try their SMS option, because estimated hold time was approaching 90 minutes.  Turned out this was a great option.  The agent first asked what kind of error message I was getting when trying to book it online.  I then explained that the routing is known not to show online but that my associates have been able to book it by phone.

After a small amount of back and forth, she was able to book it for me.  She sent me a link to a secure form for my CC payment of taxes  (AUD 47.30).   After payment was confirmed, I got the PNR, and then I went online and inputted the APIS info.  All very smooth.   

The number to text (from US only) is (478) 772-6827.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on June 04, 2019, 09:11:34 AM
Data point: my experience booking LY BOS-TLV in J with QF.

It is well known that this routing does not show on qantas.com. Others have reported being able to book it by phone, though some have had to HUCA.

I called and got an agent who said she could see availability but that she could not book it.  Said the only LY US gateways they could book were NYC and LAX.  She asked a manager and confirmed.   Click.

When I called back, I decided to try their SMS option, because estimated hold time was approaching 90 minutes.  Turned out this was a great option.  The agent first asked what kind of error message I was getting when trying to book it online.  I then explained that the routing is known not to show online but that my associates have been able to book it by phone.

After a small amount of back and forth, she was able to book it for me.  She sent me a link to a secure form for my CC payment of taxes  (AUD 47.30).   After payment was confirmed, I got the PNR, and then I went online and inputted the APIS info.  All very smooth.   

The number to text (from US only) is (478) 772-6827.
Thanks for the tip!

Make sure it's ticketed.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zow on June 04, 2019, 09:15:33 AM
Thanks for the tip!

Make sure it's ticketed.
Right! Thanks for that tip, too. They said it will take  24 to ticket, so Iím watching. 
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on June 04, 2019, 09:24:37 AM
Data point: my experience booking LY BOS-TLV in J with QF.

It is well known that this routing does not show on qantas.com. Others have reported being able to book it by phone, though some have had to HUCA.

I called and got an agent who said she could see availability but that she could not book it.  Said the only LY US gateways they could book were NYC and LAX.  She asked a manager and confirmed.   Click.

When I called back, I decided to try their SMS option, because estimated hold time was approaching 90 minutes.  Turned out this was a great option.  The agent first asked what kind of error message I was getting when trying to book it online.  I then explained that the routing is known not to show online but that my associates have been able to book it by phone.

After a small amount of back and forth, she was able to book it for me.  She sent me a link to a secure form for my CC payment of taxes  (AUD 47.30).   After payment was confirmed, I got the PNR, and then I went online and inputted the APIS info.  All very smooth.   

The number to text (from US only) is (478) 772-6827.
I'd think that all destinations were to work now, with some extra will power.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on June 04, 2019, 09:51:56 AM
Please help me, I transferred Marriott Rewards to Qantas it's still not showing up in my account, i emergency need to book the Sunday morning flight tlv-jfk, any suggestions? can anyone here book for me for exchange? please help  Its 63k
Not totally related but I wouldnít hold your breath as my last Marriott to Airline transfer took almost a month to Post!  >:(
+1. My experience detailed up thread somewhere
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on June 04, 2019, 09:53:33 AM
Data point: my experience booking LY BOS-TLV in J with QF.

It is well known that this routing does not show on qantas.com. Others have reported being able to book it by phone, though some have had to HUCA.

I called and got an agent who said she could see availability but that she could not book it.  Said the only LY US gateways they could book were NYC and LAX.  She asked a manager and confirmed.   Click.

When I called back, I decided to try their SMS option, because estimated hold time was approaching 90 minutes.  Turned out this was a great option.  The agent first asked what kind of error message I was getting when trying to book it online.  I then explained that the routing is known not to show online but that my associates have been able to book it by phone.

After a small amount of back and forth, she was able to book it for me.  She sent me a link to a secure form for my CC payment of taxes  (AUD 47.30).   After payment was confirmed, I got the PNR, and then I went online and inputted the APIS info.  All very smooth.   

The number to text (from US only) is (478) 772-6827.
Thank you for posting! Going to try this with MIA
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shmuels2 on June 07, 2019, 05:11:45 PM
Thank you for posting! Going to try this with MIA

Any luck? So far once been told a few times it can't be done.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on June 07, 2019, 05:43:54 PM
Any luck? So far once been told a few times it can't be done.
Haven't tried yet
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shimino1 on June 10, 2019, 05:25:21 PM
LY TLV-NYC booked with Qantas.
If I add an Infant later will they only charge the taxes?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on June 11, 2019, 12:35:04 AM
Anyone else having the business column not showing up for any flights? I only see Economy or Premium Economy. I can't even see if business is available at all.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 11, 2019, 12:41:02 AM
Anyone else having the business column not showing up for any flights? I only see Economy or Premium Economy. I can't even see if business is available at all.
If it's not available on any flights the column doesn't show.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on June 11, 2019, 12:43:12 AM
If it's not available on any flights the column doesn't show.
Thanks. Good to know. My points didn't transfer instantly, and I need it now... :(

ETA: It shows in the Qantas points history, but for some reason it is not usable yet, and I need to book a family member for a levaya...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on June 11, 2019, 12:52:13 AM
Thanks. Good to know. My points didn't transfer instantly, and I need it now... :(

ETA: It shows in the Qantas points history, but for some reason it is not usable yet, and I need to book a family member for a levaya...
Did you log out and log in?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on June 11, 2019, 12:53:14 AM
Did you log out and log in?
Yes. Tried incognito, too.

ETA: I was going crazy logging in and out a hundred times and figured I'll try logging in to the Australian Qantas site and it showed up there. Booked. Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mitzeahnow on June 11, 2019, 01:50:28 PM
I'd think that all destinations were to work now, with some extra will power.

I tried really hard but to no avail. Many hours many calls super long wait times, plus I tried multiple times SMS got close once but in the end they found the flight from MIA to TLV which is a battle on its own but eventually they couldnt figure out how to actually book it.

I was also randomly disconnected multiple times. would love to hear from someone how to guide them to get it done.
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mitzeahnow on June 11, 2019, 01:52:08 PM
Data point: my experience booking LY BOS-TLV in J with QF.

It is well known that this routing does not show on qantas.com. Others have reported being able to book it by phone, though some have had to HUCA.

I called and got an agent who said she could see availability but that she could not book it.  Said the only LY US gateways they could book were NYC and LAX.  She asked a manager and confirmed.   Click.

When I called back, I decided to try their SMS option, because estimated hold time was approaching 90 minutes.  Turned out this was a great option.  The agent first asked what kind of error message I was getting when trying to book it online.  I then explained that the routing is known not to show online but that my associates have been able to book it by phone.

After a small amount of back and forth, she was able to book it for me.  She sent me a link to a secure form for my CC payment of taxes  (AUD 47.30).   After payment was confirmed, I got the PNR, and then I went online and inputted the APIS info.  All very smooth.   

The number to text (from US only) is (478) 772-6827.

if you have any tips on how to guide them to actually do the booking Id love to know.
I was unfortunately not successful
Thanks
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zow on June 11, 2019, 01:55:08 PM
if you have any tips on how to guide them to actually do the booking Id love to know.
I was unfortunately not successful
Thanks
I wish I had some specific tips, but I just got lucky I guess.  It is still not ticketed, so Iím holding my breath a little bit. 
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 11, 2019, 01:58:06 PM
I wish I had some specific tips, but I just got lucky I guess.  It is still not ticketed, so Iím holding my breath a little bit.
Give up on that. PUTPAC.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shmuels2 on June 11, 2019, 02:50:50 PM
Haven't tried yet

Successfully booked via sms.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on June 11, 2019, 04:26:08 PM
Successfully booked via sms.
Great!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Muhammad on June 16, 2019, 03:03:06 PM
Is JNB bookble over the phone? Iím not seeing it online...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 16, 2019, 03:50:25 PM
Is JNB bookble over the phone? Iím not seeing it online...
It's bookable online. Did you find an available date and it's not showing?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bp27 on June 17, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
I am pleasantly surprised at the availability in Business in Elal though Qantas. How bad is the Business Class on the 777s? Would it make sense to work my schedule around to book on a 787 with the full lie flat seats?

Seems that none of the over night flights are on the 787.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 17, 2019, 12:24:17 PM
I am pleasantly surprised at the availability in Business in Elal though Qantas. How bad is the Business Class on the 777s? Would it make sense to work my schedule around to book on a 787 with the full lie flat seats?

Seems that none of the over night flights are on the 787.
its not as bad as a typical angle flat, but the overnight flights sure do have dreamliners operating them, just the availability is more scarce on the 787 operated flights.
Maybe @cooljoe613 wants to chime in on the comfort of the 772s.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 17, 2019, 04:25:21 PM
Airports that don't work on QF.com for LY flights:
BOS, LAS, MIA, MCO, ORD, SFO

Any others?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 17, 2019, 04:30:03 PM
Airports that don't work on QF.com for LY flights:
BOS, LAS, MIA, MCO, ORD, SFO

Any others?
IIRC one or 2 European routes as well, maybe BOM and DME as well?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 17, 2019, 04:41:41 PM
IIRC one or 2 European routes as well, maybe BOM and DME as well?
DME works, BOM doesn't.
Which EU routes don't?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 17, 2019, 05:02:29 PM
DME works, BOM doesn't.
Which EU routes don't?
ZAG.
AGP? SKG?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 17, 2019, 05:03:30 PM
Guess I'll finish searching all.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shimino1 on June 17, 2019, 05:06:56 PM
Airports that don't work on QF.com for LY flights:
BOS, LAS, MIA, MCO, ORD, SFO

Any others?
Pretty sure I saw SFO show up on QF.com.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 17, 2019, 05:10:29 PM
Pretty sure I saw SFO show up on QF.com.
POIDH
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on June 17, 2019, 05:26:14 PM
Airports that don't work on QF.com for LY flights:
BOS, LAS, MIA, MCO, ORD, SFO

Any others?
planning on putting the SMS option on DDMS?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Afrages6 on June 17, 2019, 05:53:23 PM
planning on putting the SMS option on DDMS?
Hopefully not
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 17, 2019, 06:02:57 PM
Hopefully not
Other than being selfish that you happen to know about it, why not?
It's a published help number on Qantas's website. And the cities that aren't bookable are clearly just a bug as a good agent can book them just fine.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 17, 2019, 06:13:14 PM
Hopefully not
Other than being selfish that you happen to know about it, why not?
It's a published help number on Qantas's website. And the cities that aren't bookable are clearly just a bug as a good agent can book them just fine.
Besides for availability it shouldn't mess anything up, quite the contrary maybe some more agents will learn how to do it.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on June 17, 2019, 06:33:59 PM
Other than being selfish that you happen to know about it, why not?
It's a published help number on Qantas's website. And the cities that aren't bookable are clearly just a bug as a good agent can book them just fine.
And they give that option when you wait on hold.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 17, 2019, 06:53:53 PM
Guess I'll finish searching all.
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/search-el-al-award-space-qantas-points-trick-booking-15-airports-arent-bookable-online/

Thanks @zow!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 17, 2019, 07:01:37 PM
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/search-el-al-award-space-qantas-points-trick-booking-15-airports-arent-bookable-online/

Thanks @zow!
OTP and LIS 100% show.
LCA and MAN IIRC do as well
And btw EF shows phantom LY space.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 17, 2019, 07:07:44 PM
OTP and LIS 100% show.
LCA and MAN IIRC do as well
And btw EF shows phantom LY space.

I can't even type in OTP on QF.com.

Screenshots of those airports please.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 17, 2019, 07:09:38 PM
I can't even type in OTP on QF.com.
Fact.
 
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on June 17, 2019, 07:11:50 PM
Is it time for UA to officially open some I class?

Doubt they will, they sell out, but they should be bale to add some routes and be successful. IMHO
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Afrages6 on June 17, 2019, 07:22:22 PM
Other than being selfish that you happen to know about it, why not?
It's a published help number on Qantas's website. And the cities that aren't bookable are clearly just a bug as a good agent can book them just fine.

I guess it shouldnít be any different then the twitter chats which everyone knows about. My apologies.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 17, 2019, 07:26:42 PM
I can't even type in OTP on QF.com.

Screenshots of those airports please.
QF will show more airports in the return section than in the outbound section

Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 17, 2019, 07:35:13 PM
I guess it shouldnít be any different then the twitter chats which everyone knows about. My apologies.
Nope, never heard of that either.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on June 17, 2019, 07:48:20 PM
How long is it taking for the bonus Qantas to post?

Been a day for me already
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on June 17, 2019, 07:49:10 PM
How long is it taking for the bonus Qantas to post?

Been a day for me already
seems to have been posting in batches
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: arye her on June 18, 2019, 11:49:42 AM
anyone else getting an error after selecting flights on Qantas and clicking continue??
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 18, 2019, 12:09:45 PM
anyone else getting an error after selecting flights on Qantas and clicking continue??
What's the error?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: arye her on June 18, 2019, 12:17:01 PM
What's the error?
disregard
working now
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 18, 2019, 12:30:34 PM
disregard
working now
Would you mind sharing the error?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: miles lover on June 18, 2019, 02:08:44 PM
I am pleasantly surprised at the availability in Business in Elal though Qantas. How bad is the Business Class on the 777s? Would it make sense to work my schedule around to book on a 787 with the full lie flat seats?

Seems that none of the over night flights are on the 787.
777 are just fine comfort wise. Itís not near as private though.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: flyingace on June 18, 2019, 02:08:51 PM
Anyone else having trouble typing in Tel Aviv as a destination when clicked on cash and points?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on June 18, 2019, 05:41:45 PM
seems to have been posting in batches

just got it
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on June 18, 2019, 05:43:02 PM
Whats everyone paying in taxs for J NYC-TLV with QF
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Miami on June 18, 2019, 06:22:31 PM
Which flights from NY area have dreamliners?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zow on June 18, 2019, 08:05:45 PM
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/search-el-al-award-space-qantas-points-trick-booking-15-airports-arent-bookable-online/

Thanks @zow!
Thanks for the HT.
:)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: efflpetzel on June 18, 2019, 09:54:55 PM
would booking TLV-SFO be the same price as TLV-SFO-LAX using QF?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on June 18, 2019, 10:11:51 PM
just screwed up and misspelled name on qantas elal award booking- anyone have thoughts on how to approach?

TIA
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: elya on June 18, 2019, 10:38:37 PM
just screwed up and misspelled name on qantas elal award booking- anyone have thoughts on how to approach?

TIA
PUTPAC/T (Text) QF.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on June 19, 2019, 02:25:32 AM
Deval already?
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/qantas-set-to-announce-frequent-flyer-changes-20190619-p51z47.html
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on June 19, 2019, 07:57:02 AM
Deval already?
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/qantas-set-to-announce-frequent-flyer-changes-20190619-p51z47.html
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums%2Edansdeals%2Ecom%2Findex%2Ephp%3Ftopic%3D104454%2E0&share_tid=104454&share_fid=16768&share_type=t
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 19, 2019, 06:53:16 PM
Dunno if anyone else noticed this or if it's a glitch or something. But Y class ex-TLV is less miles than ex-NYC. Ex-NYC is 42k for a one way (and 84k RT) while ex-TLV is just 37.8k (and 75.6k RT)!!!
Effectively, even when booking from the US RT, it's worth booking 2 one ways to save 4.2k
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on June 19, 2019, 07:12:21 PM
Dunno if anyone else noticed this or if it's a glitch or something. But Y class ex-TLV is less miles than ex-NYC. Ex-NYC is 42k for a one way (and 84k RT) while ex-TLV is just 37.8k (and 75.6k RT)!!!
Effectively, even when booking from the US RT, it's worth booking 2 one ways to save 4.2k
Thanks.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on June 19, 2019, 07:14:33 PM
Dunno if anyone else noticed this or if it's a glitch or something. But Y class ex-TLV is less miles than ex-NYC. Ex-NYC is 42k for a one way (and 84k RT) while ex-TLV is just 37.8k (and 75.6k RT)!!!
Effectively, even when booking from the US RT, it's worth booking 2 one ways to save 4.2k
might depend on the dates. I booked ex TLV for 42 last week
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 19, 2019, 07:38:09 PM
might depend on the dates. I booked ex TLV for 42 last week
Mid August
Maybe it's a glitch.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 19, 2019, 07:53:00 PM
Mid August
Maybe it's a glitch.
All dates.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 19, 2019, 07:55:14 PM
All dates.
Is this new?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 19, 2019, 08:14:21 PM
https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/use-points/classic-flight-rewards/tables.html
Its here, and it's bad. 90k J to TLV from NYC, 70.8k P.
37.8k in Y is the new rate some of which is being adapted now, the rest of the changes are in effect Sept. 18.
104.5k from MIA in J.
119.2k from the west coast in J.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 19, 2019, 08:23:35 PM
So here's the breakdown
Lower Y fares.
Higher J fares on longer routes.
Lower YQ.
5 new partners.
Promised more availability.
Solid devals for LY, luckily we get the good only until Sept.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 19, 2019, 08:27:22 PM
So here's the breakdown
Lower Y fares.
Higher J fares on longer routes.
Lower YQ.
5 new partners.
Promised more availability.
Solid devals for LY, luckily we get the good only until Sept.
I guess that explains why ex-TLV has the new rate. Because it's Jun 20th here already.... And yes, J and PE have stayed the same so far BH
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 19, 2019, 08:28:33 PM


I guess that explains why ex-TLV has the new rate. Because it's Jun 20th here already.... And yes, J and PE have stayed the same so far BH



https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/use-points/classic-flight-rewards/tables.html
Its here, and it's bad. 90k J to TLV from NYC, 70.8k P.
37.8k in Y is the new rate some of which is being adapted now, the rest of the changes are in effect Sept. 18.
104.5k from MIA in J.
119.2k from the west coast in J.

Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on June 19, 2019, 08:48:17 PM
The AMEX bonus is just leveling it back out to old rates somewhat
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on June 19, 2019, 09:04:01 PM
The +s
1. No dynamic pricing
2. Lower YQ - TBD
3. More seats - TBD

If partners are to get more seats this wont be that bad at all. UA charges for partners 85K with no UR bonuses, Amex and Citi have had bonuses in the past which brings it down.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on June 19, 2019, 10:23:11 PM
3rd post.

They are creating a status for ground based spending, which may be intrestesting and if successful, is there a possibility other airlines will follow?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on June 19, 2019, 10:41:07 PM
When will the cheaper economy rates start showing?
Worth to hold off booking?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on June 19, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
When will the cheaper economy rates start showing?
Worth to hold off booking?
Dunno if anyone else noticed this or if it's a glitch or something. But Y class ex-TLV is less miles than ex-NYC. Ex-NYC is 42k for a one way (and 84k RT) while ex-TLV is just 37.8k (and 75.6k RT)!!!
Effectively, even when booking from the US RT, it's worth booking 2 one ways to save 4.2k
Read a up thread and look at https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/use-points/classic-flight-rewards/tables.html
Title: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidmal on June 20, 2019, 12:08:42 AM
https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/use-points/classic-flight-rewards/tables.html
Its here, and it's bad. 90k J to TLV from NYC, 70.8k P.
37.8k in Y is the new rate
not too bad.
For J itís a hit. But promos level it out.

For Y itís a win.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on June 20, 2019, 12:12:00 AM
Read a up thread and look at https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/use-points/classic-flight-rewards/tables.html
I did and it was still showing 42k, But it just started showing the lower rates for my dates :)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 20, 2019, 03:58:16 AM
I did and it was still showing 42k, But it just started showing the lower rates for my dates :)
Ex-NYC already?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on June 20, 2019, 09:45:14 AM
Ex-NYC already?
yes, OW
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Bosco on June 20, 2019, 11:04:55 AM
I just booked yesterday evening at about 530pm LY EWR-TLV in Y on qantas with miles at 42k each way and now i see it went down to 37.8. my flight going is available but the return is no longer available. Any suggestions on getting it at the current price? Maybe calling and asking for an adjustment since I literally booked it as the system was rolling out? Also, Dan mentioned that the taxes should be about $9.60 for redemptions. I got charged $57 a ticket? Is that the illegal tax charging Dan mentioned? How do i determine whats legal and whats not?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on June 20, 2019, 11:21:00 AM
I just booked yesterday evening at about 530pm LY EWR-TLV in Y on qantas with miles at 42k each way and now i see it went down to 37.8. my flight going is available but the return is no longer available. Any suggestions on getting it at the current price? Maybe calling and asking for an adjustment since I literally booked it as the system was rolling out? Also, Dan mentioned that the taxes should be about $9.60 for redemptions. I got charged $57 a ticket? Is that the illegal tax charging Dan mentioned? How do i determine whats legal and whats not?
The way back [I believe] taxes are in the 50 range.

 You can try going calling and getting it adjusted but canceling will possibly result in not getting back a availability.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Bosco on June 20, 2019, 11:40:12 AM
The way back [I believe] taxes are in the 50 range.

 You can try going calling and getting it adjusted but canceling will possibly result in not getting back a availability.

Thanks. I was charged $57 each way. Is that high?

I texted them and they just keep saying "fares are subject to change." Im trying to explain that this isn't a regular fare that changes every day. Called and the hold time is 1.5hrs. not sure its worth it for the 9,000 points a ticket but might try. Thanks.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Bosco on June 20, 2019, 11:43:58 AM
Thanks. I was charged $57 each way. Is that high?

I texted them and they just keep saying "fares are subject to change." Im trying to explain that this isn't a regular fare that changes every day. Called and the hold time is 1.5hrs. not sure its worth it for the 9,000 points a ticket but might try. Thanks.

Scratch that, I was charged $57 total each ticket. So I guess it makes sense if the way back is about 50. Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on June 20, 2019, 11:58:23 AM
Scratch that, I was charged $57 total each ticket. So I guess it makes sense if the way back is about 50. Thanks for your help.
You can always check ITA Metrix to see actual taxes and YQ.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 20, 2019, 12:03:32 PM
You can always check ITA Metrix to see actual taxes and YQ.
Do me a favor, check LY taxes for QF and report back.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Bosco on June 20, 2019, 12:40:50 PM
You can always check ITA Metrix to see actual taxes and YQ.

I did that but they came out to 98 dollars a ticket so I wasnt sure which ones Qantas should be excluding since they were clearly excluding some of them.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: jew on June 20, 2019, 12:57:09 PM
I booked ly business from jfk 2 am monday morning and now they casually cancelled the flight and rebooked 5 hours earlier from newark  at 9:15 pm which I can't take. What are my options?
Qantas only will rebook on newark flight sunday night or monday night but neither works (becuase of weddings in ny and in israel).
Would LY rebook me on 1 pm from jfk? or any other options?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: jew on June 20, 2019, 01:52:33 PM
Thank you. A manager would put me on the 1 pm from jfk although it is not showing available in business (only economy or PE)?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on June 20, 2019, 01:55:28 PM
I just booked yesterday evening at about 530pm LY EWR-TLV in Y on qantas with miles at 42k each way and now i see it went down to 37.8. my flight going is available but the return is no longer available. Any suggestions on getting it at the current price? Maybe calling and asking for an adjustment since I literally booked it as the system was rolling out? Also, Dan mentioned that the taxes should be about $9.60 for redemptions. I got charged $57 a ticket? Is that the illegal tax charging Dan mentioned? How do i determine whats legal and whats not?
The way back [I believe] taxes are in the 50 range.

 You can try going calling and getting it adjusted but canceling will possibly result in not getting back a availability.
Thanks. I was charged $57 each way. Is that high?

I texted them and they just keep saying "fares are subject to change." Im trying to explain that this isn't a regular fare that changes every day. Called and the hold time is 1.5hrs. not sure its worth it for the 9,000 points a ticket but might try. Thanks.
Scratch that, I was charged $57 total each ticket. So I guess it makes sense if the way back is about 50. Thanks for your help.
You can always check ITA Metrix to see actual taxes and YQ.
Do me a favor, check LY taxes for QF and report back.
I did that but they came out to 98 dollars a ticket so I wasnt sure which ones Qantas should be excluding since they were clearly excluding some of them.
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=104416
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on June 20, 2019, 01:55:38 PM
I booked ly business from jfk 2 am monday morning and now they casually cancelled the flight and rebooked 5 hours earlier from newark  at 9:15 pm which I can't take. What are my options?
Qantas only will rebook on newark flight sunday night or monday night but neither works (becuase of weddings in ny and in israel).
Would LY rebook me on 1 pm from jfk? or any other options?
U can try ELAL, whomever ever you speak to at EY or Qantas, explain to them that JFK and EWR are in the same city technically.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on June 20, 2019, 01:57:01 PM
Thank you. A manager would put me on the 1 pm from jfk although it is not showing available in business (only economy or PE)?
If there is no availability, tey ur luck with EL AL.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: jew on June 20, 2019, 01:59:31 PM
sorry for not clarifying, they wouldnt book JFK because no mileage seats available in business on the flight at 1:00. I was asking if ELAL would put me on that flight anyhow (as revenue) because they cancelled me. Qantas said they have no access to it...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: jew on June 20, 2019, 02:02:01 PM
I guess i will HUCA with ELAL who curtly said that they cant touch it because it is a Qantas ticket....
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on June 20, 2019, 03:17:35 PM
I guess i will HUCA with ELAL who curtly said that they cant touch it because it is a Qantas ticket....
Are you traveling within the next 24-72 hours? If not it's up to QF to do the changes
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on June 20, 2019, 03:45:57 PM
Are you traveling within the next 24-72 hours? If not it's up to QF to do the changes
Once he is in the 72-24 he window does he have a chance with EY?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bp27 on June 20, 2019, 05:01:41 PM
Booked a few days ago through Qantas ElAl Business still for the 78k rate, for which I transferred 65k Amex points. Even got the additional points, so I have 15,600 points in my account. (Thanks Dan for all the info!).

Does it make sense that I can't select a seat? My booking on ElAl doesn't show that option, and I went tor their seat selection site and I get an error when entering my info. Is this typical? I haven't flown ElAl in over 20 years.

BTW, as the National Airline for a high tech country, ElAl's website is the pits.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 20, 2019, 05:10:24 PM
Booked a few days ago through Qantas ElAl Business still for the 78k rate, for which I transferred 65k Amex points. Even got the additional points, so I have 15,600 points in my account. (Thanks Dan for all the info!).

Does it make sense that I can't select a seat? My booking on ElAl doesn't show that option, and I went tor their seat selection site and I get an error when entering my info. Is this typical? I haven't flown ElAl in over 20 years.

BTW, as the National Airline for a high tech country, ElAl's website is the pits.
PUTPAC/ WhatsApp elal.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on June 20, 2019, 06:04:21 PM
Booked a few days ago through Qantas ElAl Business still for the 78k rate, for which I transferred 65k Amex points. Even got the additional points, so I have 15,600 points in my account. (Thanks Dan for all the info!).

Does it make sense that I can't select a seat? My booking on ElAl doesn't show that option, and I went tor their seat selection site and I get an error when entering my info. Is this typical? I haven't flown ElAl in over 20 years.

BTW, as the National Airline for a high tech country, ElAl's website is the pits.
Had the same issue - I ended up calling
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 20, 2019, 06:13:48 PM
Had the same issue - I ended up calling
WhatsApp is so much more convenient
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bp27 on June 20, 2019, 06:17:38 PM
WhatsApp is so much more convenient
What's the WhatsApp number? Can't seem to find it anywhere.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 20, 2019, 06:24:33 PM
What's the WhatsApp number? Can't seem to find it anywhere.
El Al has WhatsApp service where you can text them the PNR and request a seat preference (or a meal etc.)
Sometimes takes a while until they reply, but this way it doesn't waste your time.
Service is available Sun - Thur 8:30am - 7:00pm and Fri 8:30am - 4:00pm Israel time.
Number is +972535663033
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theblakdavid on June 20, 2019, 06:47:33 PM
Booked a few hours ago, but qantas points still in my account- anyone have that happen? Ticket shows up in elal, no idea how to tell if ticketed or whatever
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 20, 2019, 06:51:39 PM
Booked a few hours ago, but qantas points still in my account- anyone have that happen? Ticket shows up in elal, no idea how to tell if ticketed or whatever
Do you see a ticket number?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theblakdavid on June 20, 2019, 06:55:30 PM
Do you see a ticket number?
Where would I see that?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: jew on June 20, 2019, 07:55:54 PM
Are you traveling within the next 24-72 hours? If not it's up to QF to do the changes
Thanks. But Qantas has no access to that flight because ELAL didnt release business class seats. They are offering BA thru LHR which doesnt work...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shmuels2 on June 20, 2019, 08:04:04 PM
MIA > TLV now bookable online.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 20, 2019, 08:07:11 PM
MIA > TLV now bookable online.
And the other 12...?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: MosheD on June 20, 2019, 08:09:02 PM
https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/use-points/classic-flight-rewards/tables.html
Its here, and it's bad. 90k J to TLV from NYC, 70.8k P.
37.8k in Y is the new rate some of which is being adapted now, the rest of the changes are in effect Sept. 18.
104.5k from MIA in J.
119.2k from the west coast in J.

Redacted
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shmuels2 on June 20, 2019, 08:09:47 PM
MIA > TLV now bookable online.

BOS too
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 20, 2019, 08:09:48 PM
Interesting, P is going down as well but only 9/18
Where do you see it going down?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: MosheD on June 20, 2019, 08:13:10 PM
Where do you see it going down?

My bad misread
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 20, 2019, 08:14:32 PM
Your link

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/use-points/classic-flight-rewards/tables.html
Oh short flights? J is down too
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shmuels2 on June 20, 2019, 08:18:46 PM
BOS too

All US routes showing.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 20, 2019, 08:19:49 PM
All US routes showing.
Let's make that all routes period.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shmuels2 on June 20, 2019, 08:21:46 PM
Let's make that all routes period.

Hey I can't check them all at once. Can you confirm?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 20, 2019, 08:25:24 PM
Booked a few hours ago, but qantas points still in my account- anyone have that happen? Ticket shows up in elal, no idea how to tell if ticketed or whatever
Booked last night and still no tickets either. Had received an email saying to some TSA required info missing or booking will get cancelled. I added online and still nothing. Called QF today and they said if departure isn't in the coming days it can take up to 48 hours. She promised it's on the queue to be ticketed. I hope she's right. I'm still holding my breath...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 20, 2019, 08:26:49 PM
Hey I can't check them all at once. Can you confirm?
Actually not, none of them.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Jkhein on June 20, 2019, 08:46:51 PM
Booked last night and still no tickets either. Had received an email saying to some TSA required info missing or booking will get cancelled. I added online and still nothing. Called QF today and they said if departure isn't in the coming days it can take up to 48 hours. She promised it's on the queue to be ticketed. I hope she's right. I'm still holding my breath...
Yup sheís right, I booked this week. 24 hours later they sent the email for the info and 24 hours later got the ticketed itinerary.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 20, 2019, 08:52:52 PM
Yup sheís right, I booked this week. 24 hours later they sent the email for the info and 24 hours later got the ticketed itinerary.
Thanks for the DP. Greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theblakdavid on June 20, 2019, 08:58:30 PM
Booked last night and still no tickets either. Had received an email saying to some TSA required info missing or booking will get cancelled. I added online and still nothing. Called QF today and they said if departure isn't in the coming days it can take up to 48 hours. She promised it's on the queue to be ticketed. I hope she's right. I'm still holding my breath...
Ya thatís what I got as well- email for required info , which I filled out.
Yup sheís right, I booked this week. 24 hours later they sent the email for the info and 24 hours later got the ticketed itinerary.
Thanks for the dp
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: US on June 20, 2019, 09:10:31 PM
Booked a few hours ago, but qantas points still in my account- anyone have that happen? Ticket shows up in elal, no idea how to tell if ticketed or whatever
Booked yesterday and points still shoe up in account, and it's ticketed. It takes time till they remove the points from your account.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: US on June 20, 2019, 09:16:56 PM
Booked last night and still no tickets either. Had received an email saying to some TSA required info missing or booking will get cancelled. I added online and still nothing. Called QF today and they said if departure isn't in the coming days it can take up to 48 hours. She promised it's on the queue to be ticketed. I hope she's right. I'm still holding my breath...
Takes time, If you want you text them, booked 2 tickets 1 ticket was sent within 48 hours and 1 within 12 hours. So might take up to 48 hours.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 22, 2019, 07:42:38 PM
It was nearly 72 hrs already, and still no charge to cc and no ticket #'s, but by now the points have been deducted. Called back and they said their having some error, will deal with it Monday morning when the appropriate dep. is back in office and she will call me back. I insisted that I was afraid the booking would expire until then and more award seats were no longer available. After another hold, she told me that they managed to ticket it. Still no email confirmation (almost an hour), but by now my cc was charged and I see ticket numbers on elal.com
Also, booked the infant online with no issues B"H. El Al website shows a ticket number for the infant, too. Paid only taxes.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on June 22, 2019, 10:45:26 PM
My understanding is that EL AL tickets need to manually ticketed/reviewed and the office that does so is not open on weekends. Its possible there are other issues as well.

I was told the above by a rep.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: israshot on June 22, 2019, 11:26:53 PM
Booked a few hours ago, but Qantas points still in my account- anyone has that happen? The ticket shows up in elal, no idea how to tell if ticketed or whatever
Booked last night and still no tickets either. Had received an email saying to some TSA required info missing or booking will get cancelled. I added online and still nothing. Called QF today and they said if departure isn't in the coming days it can take up to 48 hours. She promised it's on the queue to be ticketed. I hope she's right. I'm still holding my breath...
Yup, sheís right, I booked this week. 24 hours later they sent the email for the info and 24 hours later got the ticketed itinerary.
Booked yesterday and points still shoe up in account, and it's ticketed. It takes time till they remove the points from your account.
Takes time, If you want you to text them, booked 2 tickets 1 ticket was sent within 48 hours and 1 within 12 hours. So might take up to 48 hours.
It was nearly 72 hrs already, and still no charge to cc and no ticket #'s, but by now the points have been deducted. Called back and they said they're having some error, will deal with it Monday morning when the appropriate dept. is back in office and she will call me back. I insisted that I was afraid the booking would expire until then and more award seats were no longer available. After another hold, she told me that they managed to ticket it. Still no email confirmation (almost an hour), but by now my cc was charged and I see ticket numbers on elal.com
Also, booked the infant online with no issues B"H. El Al website shows a ticket number for the infant, too. Paid only taxes.
Text (478) 772-6827‬ they will issue it in a few minutes and you'll see the points deducted. It's Qantas that has to do it manually.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 23, 2019, 11:42:37 AM
Text (478) 772-6827‬ they will issue it in a few minutes and you'll see the points deducted. It's Qantas that has to do it manually.
Can't text them from IL
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: israshot on June 23, 2019, 11:43:03 AM
Can't text them from Israel
Google voice.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 23, 2019, 11:55:54 AM
Google voice.
If one has one already. I don't think it can be set up from IL. CMIIW
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: israshot on June 23, 2019, 11:56:39 AM
If one has one already. I don't think it can be set up from IL. CMIIW
VPN.
But wrong thread.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 23, 2019, 11:57:50 AM
VPN.
But wrong thread.
Link to the correct thread?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: israshot on June 23, 2019, 11:58:41 AM
Link to the correct thread?
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=12349.0
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 23, 2019, 12:00:31 PM
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=12349.0
Thanks
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KidOOO on June 23, 2019, 01:04:30 PM
book an infant in a seat (full ticket), if I choose infant it won't give me a seat, if I choose 2 and above it won't let me enter his correct birthday

is it ok to enter a year earlier for his birthday so the system will accept or not?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 23, 2019, 01:06:21 PM
book an infant in a seat (full ticket), if I choose infant it won't give me a seat, if I choose 2 and above it won't let me enter his correct birthday

is it ok to enter a year earlier for his birthday so the system will accept or not?
It's not a problem.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KidOOO on June 23, 2019, 01:07:42 PM
It's not a problem.

Awesome thanks!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KidOOO on June 23, 2019, 01:13:32 PM
My understanding is that EL AL tickets need to manually ticketed/reviewed and the office that does so is not open on weekends. Its possible there are other issues as well.

I was told the above by a rep.

Just Booked NYC-TLV in Econ got etickets instantly from qantas, but elal still says needs to confirm payment. is that an issue?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: vanilla on June 23, 2019, 04:35:21 PM
I cancelled TLV-JFK within 24 hours, and was charged 6k cancellation fee.
I tried to explain to the SMS agent that the Conditions of Carriage specify (section 5.3):

"In accordance with US Department of Transportation rules, customers who purchase a ticket in the United States for travel on Qantas may cancel their reservations and have their ticket refunded without charge within 24 hours of ticketing when the ticket is purchased one week or more prior to scheduled departure of the first flight in the itinerary."

https://www.qantas.com/us/en/book-a-trip/flights/conditions-of-carriage.html#-fare

The agent responded (see screenshot): "That pertains to a purchased ticket in the United States for travel on Qantas. Where in your flight is with LY"

Is the agent correct, that when booking LY via QF a cancellation fee is charged even within 24 hours?

Or is it because the flight originates from TLV?
My only residence is in the US, which is the address on file with Qantas.
Same goes for my CC and phone number.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shimino1 on June 23, 2019, 04:37:42 PM
I cancelled TLV-JFK within 24 hours, and was charged 6k cancellation fee.
I tried to explain to the SMS agent that the Conditions of Carriage specify (section 5.3):

"In accordance with US Department of Transportation rules, customers who purchase a ticket in the United States for travel on Qantas may cancel their reservations and have their ticket refunded without charge within 24 hours of ticketing when the ticket is purchased one week or more prior to scheduled departure of the first flight in the itinerary."

https://www.qantas.com/us/en/book-a-trip/flights/conditions-of-carriage.html#-fare

The agent responded (see screenshot): "That pertains to a purchased ticket in the United States for travel on Qantas. Where in your flight is with LY"

Is the agent correct, that when booking LY via QF a cancellation fee is charged even within 24 hours?

Or is it because the flight originates from TLV?
My only residence is in the US, which is the address on file with Qantas.
Same goes for my CC and phone number.
Dont think they are correct. Huca or complain to the DOT.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: israshot on June 23, 2019, 04:39:13 PM
I cancelled TLV-JFK within 24 hours, and was charged 6k cancellation fee.
I tried to explain to the SMS agent that the Conditions of Carriage specify (section 5.3):

"In accordance with US Department of Transportation rules, customers who purchase a ticket in the United States for travel on Qantas may cancel their reservations and have their ticket refunded without charge within 24 hours of ticketing when the ticket is purchased one week or more prior to scheduled departure of the first flight in the itinerary."

https://www.qantas.com/us/en/book-a-trip/flights/conditions-of-carriage.html#-fare

The agent responded (see screenshot): "That pertains to a purchased ticket in the United States for travel on Qantas. Where in your flight is with LY"

Is the agent correct, that when booking LY via QF a cancellation fee is charged even within 24 hours?

Or is it because the flight originates from TLV?
My only residence is in the US, which is the address on file with Qantas.
Same goes for my CC and phone number.
DOT regulations of 24 hours is for any flight departing, arriving or within the U.S. regardless their own conditions.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2019, 04:47:39 PM
Do we know that DoT 24 applies to awards?
How does AC avoid it?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Afrages6 on June 23, 2019, 05:13:12 PM
DOT regulations of 24 hours is for any flight departing, arriving or within the U.S. regardless their own conditions.
Are you sure about that?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 23, 2019, 05:48:44 PM
Do we know that DoT 24 applies to awards?
How does AC avoid it?
We like to think yes, but until someone sues I guess we'll never know.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on June 23, 2019, 06:39:24 PM
We like to think yes, but until someone sues I guess we'll never know.
While you complain mention the taxes as well
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 23, 2019, 06:41:27 PM
While you complain mention the taxes as well
Or maybe we leave well enough alone so they don't tag on YQ... I prefer to ignore the $20
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 23, 2019, 06:45:09 PM
While you complain mention the taxes as well
Well based on your analysis is a QF charging a base fare on LY? If so they certainly should be subject to DOT regulation.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on June 23, 2019, 06:46:33 PM
Well based on your analysis is a QF charging a base fare on LY? If so they certainly should be subject to DOT regulation.
No. QF is charging US tax on LY Premium & Business awards ($18.60 per direction to/from USA) . LY is just plain messed up
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: jew on June 24, 2019, 02:30:04 AM
Thank you. A manager would put me on the 1 pm from jfk although it is not showing available in business (only economy or PE)?
Thanks for the help
Thank G-D after getting no help from ELAL (kept telling them and manager that its their fault and they need to accommodate me, manager finally told me that he cant touch Qantas ticket but Qantas should contact ELAL themselves) SMS with Qantas for 21 hours straight (no I did not go to bed thursday night) which I had to keep explaining my story again and again for every new agent who finally replied, I finally picked up the phone to call Qantas who put me on hold for few minutes and very nicely told me that after speaking to her manager she has sent email to ELAL and should get an answer in 24 hours.
Boruch Hashem after shabbos I see they changed to the ticket that I asked for the 1 pm from JFK although there was no award seats available. (it says R class)
Sorry for all the boring details but was just excited to share :)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shimino1 on June 24, 2019, 03:15:57 AM
Thanks for the help
Thank G-D after getting no help from ELAL (kept telling them and manager that its their fault and they need to accommodate me, manager finally told me that he cant touch Qantas ticket but Qantas should contact ELAL themselves) SMS with Qantas for 21 hours straight (no I did not go to bed thursday night) which I had to keep explaining my story again and again for every new agent who finally replied, I finally picked up the phone to call Qantas who put me on hold for few minutes and very nicely told me that after speaking to her manager she has sent email to ELAL and should get an answer in 24 hours.
Boruch Hashem after shabbos I see they changed to the ticket that I asked for the 1 pm from JFK although there was no award seats available. (it says R class)
Sorry for all the boring details but was just excited to share :)
IINM R class is upgrade to business class. You may be on a revenue economy ticket that was upgraded. Put in a Qantas or Alaska FFN and you may earn miles for the flight.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 24, 2019, 03:20:16 AM
IINM R class is upgrade to business class.
correct.

Put in a Qantas or Alaska FFN and you may earn miles for the flight.
Interesting thought, I'd put in AS, because often in these situations QF (or whatever airline booked a rev ticket) can make sure you don't earn with them.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: DrDanny on June 24, 2019, 03:21:31 AM
I cancelled TLV-JFK within 24 hours, and was charged 6k cancellation fee.
I tried to explain to the SMS ...........
Did the miles go back to your account instantly?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: vanilla on June 24, 2019, 07:17:11 AM
Did the miles go back to your account instantly?
Within a few hours. Not sure exactly.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on June 24, 2019, 07:45:02 AM
Thanks for the help
Thank G-D after getting no help from ELAL (kept telling them and manager that its their fault and they need to accommodate me, manager finally told me that he cant touch Qantas ticket but Qantas should contact ELAL themselves) SMS with Qantas for 21 hours straight (no I did not go to bed thursday night) which I had to keep explaining my story again and again for every new agent who finally replied, I finally picked up the phone to call Qantas who put me on hold for few minutes and very nicely told me that after speaking to her manager she has sent email to ELAL and should get an answer in 24 hours.
Boruch Hashem after shabbos I see they changed to the ticket that I asked for the 1 pm from JFK although there was no award seats available. (it says R class)
Sorry for all the boring details but was just excited to share :)
Nice! Glad it worked out.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bp27 on June 24, 2019, 11:06:02 AM
WhatsApp is so much more convenient
WhatsApp worked great! Thanks for that, and I now have a seat. A little annoying that even if you are using English, they still answer in Hebrew. Not an issue for me, but I found it strange.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on June 24, 2019, 11:12:33 AM
correct.
Interesting thought, I'd put in AS, because often in these situations QF (or whatever airline booked a rev ticket) can make sure you don't earn with them.
Didn't someone just mention that they didn't earn miles on R class?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KidOOO on June 24, 2019, 11:18:13 AM
Booking TLV-NYC qanats is billing taxes in GBP, is there a way to change to USD?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KidOOO on June 24, 2019, 11:19:06 AM
WhatsApp worked great! Thanks for that, and I now have a seat. A little annoying that even if you are using English, they still answer in Hebrew. Not an issue for me, but I found it strange.


Used it as well very convenient. It seems the service is not officially available in English but of course most reps do understand English
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 24, 2019, 11:34:41 AM
Didn't someone just mention that they didn't earn miles on R class?
You'd earn on the economy fare it was booked into.
Booking TLV-NYC qanats is billing taxes in GBP, is there a way to change to USD?
NAFAIK. They use a UK POS, any travel card has no forex fees.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on June 24, 2019, 11:37:07 AM
IINM R class is upgrade to business class. You may be on a revenue economy ticket that was upgraded. Put in a Qantas or Alaska FFN and you may earn miles for the flight.
R class can also be a paid fare with LY. Ive seen it on the YYZ route
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 24, 2019, 11:48:12 AM
You'd earn on the economy fare it was booked into.
Not true from reports above.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 24, 2019, 11:48:42 AM
Not true from reports above.
Link?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 24, 2019, 11:49:53 AM
Link?
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=95294.msg2103879#msg2103879
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 24, 2019, 11:51:19 AM
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=95294.msg2103879#msg2103879
That's assuming it was booked into a rev R fare, which IIRC we've only seen on the YYZ route, and rarely.
Assuming they booked him a Y fare, and upgraded it into R...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 24, 2019, 11:56:47 AM
That's assuming it was booked into a rev R fare, which IIRC we've only seen on the YYZ route, and rarely.
Assuming they booked him a Y fare, and upgraded it into R...
YYZ-TLV J is almost always R.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 24, 2019, 12:04:59 PM
YYZ-TLV J is almost always R.
Seems you are correct.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: cooljoe613 on June 24, 2019, 12:49:11 PM
lol 777 is better then Dreamliner
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 24, 2019, 12:54:09 PM
lol 777 is better then Dreamliner
Do we need to teach you how to quote?
its not as bad as a typical angle flat, but the overnight flights sure do have dreamliners operating them, just the availability is more scarce on the 787 operated flights.
Maybe @cooljoe613 wants to chime in on the comfort of the 772s.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Pesach on June 24, 2019, 02:55:18 PM
I flew elal round trip flights basic economy they credited and gave me 5700 for the flight and then   they credited me 5700 again . I am not sure if you get 5700 a way or 5700 round trip and they made a mistake, this is how the point activity looks.                                                                                                                                                                                                               
   LY 27 FLEXIBLE ECONOMY/FLEXIBLE ECONOMY 23-JAN-2019 TEL AVIV/NEW YORK -
5,700
0-
Sun 23 Jun 2019   
LY 28 FLEXIBLE ECONOMY/FLEXIBLE ECONOMY 16-JAN-2019 NEW YORK/TEL AVIV -
5,700  showing up under points activity two different routes 5700 for the tlv to ny route and then 5700 from the ny to tlv route, so its confusing.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Baglach on June 24, 2019, 05:18:46 PM
YYZ-TLV J is almost always R.

R is not a revenue Fare for YYZ its really M with a free upgrade rather then paying the 900 points on NY route. Same reason its free Cancellation as M is free to cancel. If you credit YYZ to LY you will get points for M, seems if you credit to partner wont get anything
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on June 24, 2019, 10:46:10 PM
I cancelled TLV-JFK within 24 hours, and was charged 6k cancellation fee.
I tried to explain to the SMS agent that the Conditions of Carriage specify (section 5.3):

"In accordance with US Department of Transportation rules, customers who purchase a ticket in the United States for travel on Qantas may cancel their reservations and have their ticket refunded without charge within 24 hours of ticketing when the ticket is purchased one week or more prior to scheduled departure of the first flight in the itinerary."

https://www.qantas.com/us/en/book-a-trip/flights/conditions-of-carriage.html#-fare (https://www.qantas.com/us/en/book-a-trip/flights/conditions-of-carriage.html#-fare)

The agent responded (see screenshot): "That pertains to a purchased ticket in the United States for travel on Qantas. Where in your flight is with LY"

Is the agent correct, that when booking LY via QF a cancellation fee is charged even within 24 hours?

Or is it because the flight originates from TLV?
My only residence is in the US, which is the address on file with Qantas.
Same goes for my CC and phone number.
Dont think they are correct. Huca or complain to the DOT.
Do we know that DoT 24 applies to awards?
How does AC avoid it?
Did the miles go back to your account instantly?
Had a similar experience, I needed to change flights, and didn't want to cancel because I didn't know how long it would take to get the miles back. Change fee was 6k, so I did it and then texted, got the attached story. I didn't end up following up.
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Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a mirrer on June 25, 2019, 05:57:39 AM
Do we know that DoT 24 applies to awards?
How does AC avoid it?
the way I understand it Aeroplan avoids it since the law only applies to airlines while Aeroplan is a travel agency not an airline
https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/docs/Notice_24hour_hold_final20130530_0.pdf
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 25, 2019, 11:24:09 AM
Anyone have a Qantas account with a couple hundred thousand points that I can borrow for an hour to take some screenshots of taxes?

PM please :)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 25, 2019, 11:25:03 AM
Anyone have a Qantas account with a couple hundred thousand points that I can borrow for an hour to take some screenshots of taxes?

PM please :)
Initiate a transfer, take one for the team ;)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 25, 2019, 11:56:28 AM
Anyone have a Qantas account with a couple hundred thousand points that I can borrow for an hour to take some screenshots of taxes?

PM please :)
Got, thanks
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Naftuli19 on June 25, 2019, 01:11:18 PM
whats the change fee for business?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 25, 2019, 01:30:43 PM
whats the change fee for business?
5k
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 25, 2019, 06:05:07 PM
Ok. I think I figured out what causes the delayed ticketing. It's flights to/from the US that have an infant.
Reason is that TSA requires them to collect DOB and gender info, and by all passengers there's a "title" field where they can determine the gender from that. Besides the infant, where there's no field for title or for gender.
After multiple bookings in the past few weeks, all tickets were issued within the hour automatically, besides the 2 PNR's that included infants.
On those I received an email requesting critical TSA required info that's missing and that the tickets would be issued as soon as that's added. And in the first case, it wasn't issued until after 72 hours when I called for the second time and put a lot of pressure on them to issue instantly. And the second time is today, where it's already been a few hours since I added the info requested, and nothing.... No points deducted... No cc charge yet.... No ticket numbers. It looks like I might just need to call again (or SMS once I figure out how to use GV from IL)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theblakdavid on June 25, 2019, 06:49:21 PM
Ok. I think I figured out what causes the delayed ticketing. It's flights to/from the US that have an infant.
Reason is that TSA requires them to collect DOB and gender info, and by all passengers there's a "title" field where they can determine the gender from that. Besides the infant, where there's no field for title or for gender.
After multiple bookings in the past few weeks, all tickets were issued within the hour automatically, besides the 2 PNR's that included infants.
On those I received an email requesting critical TSA required info that's missing and that the tickets would be issued as soon as that's added. And in the first case, it wasn't issued until after 72 hours when I called for the second time and put a lot of pressure on them to issue instantly. And the second time is today, where it's already been a few hours since I added the info requested, and nothing.... No points deducted... No cc charge yet.... No ticket numbers. It looks like I might just need to call again (or SMS once I figure out how to use GV from IL)

For a dp- my ticket that was delayed has an infant.
2 other flights I booked without an infant were ticketed instantly.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: atwnsw on June 25, 2019, 08:24:38 PM
I am planning to travel to Israel in October and would like to buy a ticket from El Al.

Given the current promo from Amex MR to transfer to Qantas (ultimately booking an El Al flight), I am trying to find somebody who would trade for Chase Ultimate Rewards.

Other than Flyertalk CC (which doesn't allow postings for Amex MR), is there another reputable site where I can find somebody to trade with (yes, I realize that the other person has to be reputable as well).

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on June 25, 2019, 09:12:38 PM
I just booked with an infant today, charge is pending, points are still there. How do I tell if it ticketed?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 25, 2019, 09:17:45 PM
I just booked with an infant today, charge is pending, points are still there. How do I tell if it ticketed?
Check elal.com if you see a ticket number.

If your cc was charged, it's likely ticketed.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on June 25, 2019, 09:32:45 PM
Check elal.com if you see a ticket number.

If your cc was charged, it's likely ticketed.
I checked elal and i dont see a ticket number, I got this email.
"Dear MR xxxx xxxxx,

As you are travelling to, from, or within the United States soon, we'd like to remind you of the US Government requirements to provide your details before you depart.

We need some information urgently

Let us know the date of birth for all passengers in your itinerary as soon as possible. Without this information your booking could be cancelled.

What you need to do:

Step 1: Retrieve your booking

Step 2: Provide your Advance Passenger Information and Secure Flight Passenger Data before we can issue your tickets. This information is mandatory for travel to the US.

Step 3: Your tickets will be issued once this information has been received."
It won't let me update without putting in all the passport info. Can I just ignore this email?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 25, 2019, 10:02:33 PM
I checked elal and i dont see a ticket number, I got this email.
"Dear MR xxxx xxxxx,

As you are travelling to, from, or within the United States soon, we'd like to remind you of the US Government requirements to provide your details before you depart.

We need some information urgently

Let us know the date of birth for all passengers in your itinerary as soon as possible. Without this information your booking could be cancelled.

What you need to do:

Step 1: Retrieve your booking

Step 2: Provide your Advance Passenger Information and Secure Flight Passenger Data before we can issue your tickets. This information is mandatory for travel to the US.

Step 3: Your tickets will be issued once this information has been received."
It won't let me update without putting in all the passport info. Can I just ignore this email?
Yup! This is the email that comes on the bookings with infants... Enjoy your waiting time....
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on June 25, 2019, 10:05:52 PM
Yup! This is the email that comes on the bookings with infants... Enjoy your waiting time....
Anything I need to do or just wait?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Jkhein on June 25, 2019, 11:17:38 PM
Ok. I think I figured out what causes the delayed ticketing. It's flights to/from the US that have an infant.
Reason is that TSA requires them to collect DOB and gender info, and by all passengers there's a "title" field where they can determine the gender from that. Besides the infant, where there's no field for title or for gender.
After multiple bookings in the past few weeks, all tickets were issued within the hour automatically, besides the 2 PNR's that included infants.
On those I received an email requesting critical TSA required info that's missing and that the tickets would be issued as soon as that's added. And in the first case, it wasn't issued until after 72 hours when I called for the second time and put a lot of pressure on them to issue instantly. And the second time is today, where it's already been a few hours since I added the info requested, and nothing.... No points deducted... No cc charge yet.... No ticket numbers. It looks like I might just need to call again (or SMS once I figure out how to use GV from IL)
Sorry but wrong. I never booked with infant but have the same story. I booked another ticket yesterday for one adult, been almost 24 hours, points still not deducted and not ticketed
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on June 25, 2019, 11:21:48 PM
Ok. I think I figured out what causes the delayed ticketing. It's flights to/from the US that have an infant.
Reason is that TSA requires them to collect DOB and gender info, and by all passengers there's a "title" field where they can determine the gender from that. Besides the infant, where there's no field for title or for gender.
After multiple bookings in the past few weeks, all tickets were issued within the hour automatically, besides the 2 PNR's that included infants.
On those I received an email requesting critical TSA required info that's missing and that the tickets would be issued as soon as that's added. And in the first case, it wasn't issued until after 72 hours when I called for the second time and put a lot of pressure on them to issue instantly. And the second time is today, where it's already been a few hours since I added the info requested, and nothing.... No points deducted... No cc charge yet.... No ticket numbers. It looks like I might just need to call again (or SMS once I figure out how to use GV from IL)
same experience here...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on June 26, 2019, 12:59:51 AM
I made 2 bookings today.
1. Adult and child, points deducted, no email received. Showing ticket numbers on LY.
2. Adult and infant, points not deducted, received email that I need to update info, did it still no email. Not showing ticket numbers on LY.




Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on June 26, 2019, 01:17:58 AM
Text (478) 772-6827‬ they will issue it in a few minutes and you'll see the points deducted. It's Qantas that has to do it manually.
They arenít being very helpful for me, keep getting a txt every few min (for the past 4 hours) that an agent will look into it.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Hjay on June 26, 2019, 01:32:57 AM
Ok. I think I figured out what causes the delayed ticketing. It's flights to/from the US that have an infant.
Reason is that TSA requires them to collect DOB and gender info, and by all passengers there's a "title" field where they can determine the gender from that. Besides the infant, where there's no field for title or for gender.
After multiple bookings in the past few weeks, all tickets were issued within the hour automatically, besides the 2 PNR's that included infants.
On those I received an email requesting critical TSA required info that's missing and that the tickets would be issued as soon as that's added. And in the first case, it wasn't issued until after 72 hours when I called for the second time and put a lot of pressure on them to issue instantly. And the second time is today, where it's already been a few hours since I added the info requested, and nothing.... No points deducted... No cc charge yet.... No ticket numbers. It looks like I might just need to call again (or SMS once I figure out how to use GV from IL)


To avoid this issue would I be able to book the reg fix and once ticketed add infant?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on June 26, 2019, 06:37:14 AM
I made 2 bookings today.
1. Adult and child, points deducted, no email received. Showing ticket numbers on LY.
2. Adult and infant, points not deducted, received email that I need to update info, did it still no email. Not showing ticket numbers on LY.




Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!
Update: now showing tickets numbers for all on LY.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: israshot on June 26, 2019, 07:36:00 AM
Ok. I think I figured out what causes the delayed ticketing. It's flights to/from the US that have an infant.
Reason is that TSA requires them to collect DOB and gender info, and by all passengers there's a "title" field where they can determine the gender from that. Besides the infant, where there's no field for title or for gender.
After multiple bookings in the past few weeks, all tickets were issued within the hour automatically, besides the 2 PNR's that included infants.
On those I received an email requesting critical TSA required info that's missing and that the tickets would be issued as soon as that's added. And in the first case, it wasn't issued until after 72 hours when I called for the second time and put a lot of pressure on them to issue instantly. And the second time is today, where it's already been a few hours since I added the info requested, and nothing.... No points deducted... No cc charge yet.... No ticket numbers. It looks like I might just need to call again (or SMS once I figure out how to use GV from IL)
Yes, was an infant with me too. SMS work within few hours.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 26, 2019, 10:37:07 AM
Update: now showing tickets numbers for all on LY.
So apparently texting is what did the trick for you, because still nothing by me...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on June 26, 2019, 10:41:18 AM
So apparently texting is what did the trick for you, because still nothing by me...
Yup
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on June 26, 2019, 04:07:01 PM
just booked 2 LY ewr-tlv-ewr in j
312,000 QF plus $114 so 156k and $57/ each.
i previously booked OW jfk-tlv and paid $29.
is $57 the correct amount for r/t?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 26, 2019, 04:08:10 PM
just booked 2 LY ewr-tlv-ewr in j
312,000 QF plus $114 so 156k and $57/ each.
i previously booked OW jfk-tlv and paid $29.
is $57 the correct amount for r/t?
DDMS.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on June 26, 2019, 04:09:33 PM
DDMS.
just came back to say that i re-read the whole post - didnt want to lose the availability when booking
https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-deals/israel-flights/qantas-removes-erroneous-award-fees-el-al-flights-current-fees-bargain-infant-fees-us-israel/
thx
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Naftuli19 on June 26, 2019, 04:11:49 PM
just booked 2 LY ewr-tlv-ewr in j
312,000 QF plus $114 so 156k and $57/ each.
i previously booked OW jfk-tlv and paid $29.
is $57 the correct amount for r/t?
Did u transfer from amex? u got the 44% bonus?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 26, 2019, 04:24:46 PM
So apparently texting is what did the trick for you, because still nothing by me...

Update: Was just ticketed about a half hour ago without any calling/texting. (about 24 hours total)

If I want to make a date change, will they allow it free before midnight UK time (ex-TLV)?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 26, 2019, 06:33:32 PM
Anyone? Is there ANY grace period for cancelling QF bookings free? Same day?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on June 26, 2019, 06:43:00 PM
Update: Was just ticketed about a half hour ago without any calling/texting. (about 24 hours total)

If I want to make a date change, will they allow it free before midnight UK time (ex-TLV)?
Did you put in the APIS info?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 26, 2019, 06:46:43 PM
Did you put in the APIS info?
I did right away. But last time it still took 72 hrs until I called and waited on the line until it was ticketed....
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on June 26, 2019, 06:50:18 PM
I did right away. But last time it still took 72 hrs until I called and waited on the line until it was ticketed....
I've been told twice I'm in the queue. Does that mean anything?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yochai on June 26, 2019, 07:56:24 PM
How long after booking does the miles deduction reflect on the account?
I booked this afternoon and still see the same amount.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: US on June 26, 2019, 11:20:28 PM
How long after booking does the miles deduction reflect on the account?
I booked this afternoon and still see the same amount.
Can take 24hrs.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: wakimike on June 27, 2019, 11:09:33 AM
You can now book same day classic rewards with Qantas online!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on June 27, 2019, 11:35:56 AM
Did u transfer from amex? u got the 44% bonus?
got 20% instant from amex. was new account without target bonus from QF so no. only 20
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Naftuli19 on June 27, 2019, 11:38:24 AM
You can now book same day classic rewards with Qantas online!
yup +1
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2019, 11:42:12 AM
got 20% instant from amex. was new account without target bonus from QF so no. only 20
When did you transfer?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on June 27, 2019, 11:45:41 AM
When did you transfer?
yesterday. transferred 260. 312 posted into account immediately. it was a new account bec amex wouldnt let me transfer to a QF account in different name   
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on June 27, 2019, 11:47:43 AM
You can now book same day classic rewards with Qantas online!
Worked for me a couple of weeks ago already.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2019, 11:48:09 AM
yesterday. transferred 260. 312 posted into account immediately. it was a new account bec amex wouldnt let me transfer to a QF account in different name   
You need to read DDMS more.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2019, 11:48:20 AM
Worked for me a couple of weeks ago already.
Never seen same day until today.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on June 27, 2019, 11:49:57 AM
Yes. Tried incognito, too.

ETA: I was going crazy logging in and out a hundred times and figured I'll try logging in to the Australian Qantas site and it showed up there. Booked. Thanks everyone.
Never seen same day until today.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2019, 11:51:58 AM

Um. That is not what @wakimike is referring to.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on June 27, 2019, 11:54:54 AM
You need to read DDMS more.
also need to work more so i can make money so i can pay the cc charges that i am getting all these points on so i can have time to travel in F and J around the world. sometimes 6 tickets
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on June 27, 2019, 12:05:25 PM
Um. That is not what @wakimike is referring to.
I booked a flight for the same day less than 12 hours later. Is this not what he is referring to?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on June 27, 2019, 12:07:32 PM
How long does it take to get the 20% from Qantas?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Naftuli19 on June 27, 2019, 12:12:04 PM
How long does it take to get the 20% from Qantas?
amex is instant from Qantas YYMV i got once after 2 days ( i had to request it) another time after 3d
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on June 27, 2019, 12:19:28 PM
amex is instant from Qantas YYMV i got once after 2 days ( i had to request it) another time after 3d
Thanks, i got the amex instant but its now 3 days and didn't get from qantas.
how did you request?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Naftuli19 on June 27, 2019, 12:19:57 PM
Thanks, i got the amex instant but its now 3 days and didn't get from qantas.
how did you request?
email
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on June 27, 2019, 01:54:45 PM
Any way to select seats online?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on June 27, 2019, 03:15:43 PM
Any way to select seats online?
no
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 27, 2019, 04:08:36 PM
Can changes be made online or only on the phone?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: wakimike on June 28, 2019, 07:28:45 AM
Any way to select seats online?

If your checking in (within 24 hours) you can select seats
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shimino1 on June 28, 2019, 07:57:27 AM
If your checking in (within 24 hours) you can select seats
You can call Elal to select seats anytime.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on June 28, 2019, 09:13:52 AM
Any way to select seats online?
no
If your checking in (within 24 hours) you can select seats
You can call Elal to select seats anytime.
If calling Elal is too time consuming you can WhatsApp Elal (Hebrew only)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on June 30, 2019, 08:12:55 AM
Can I upgrade from economy to premium economy with points?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ruv on June 30, 2019, 01:02:25 PM
Trying to book bos-tlv-jfk and it's pricing out for 139k pts!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on June 30, 2019, 01:23:25 PM
Trying to book bos-tlv-jfk and it's pricing out for 139k pts!
It would be a one way BOS-JFK with a connection in TLV since it is less than 24 hours, and a one way more than 9601 miles is 139k.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 30, 2019, 01:28:21 PM
It would be a one way BOS-JFK with a connection in TLV since it is less than 24 hours, and a one way more than 9601 miles is 139k.
Shades of the Verrazzano hack.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on June 30, 2019, 01:38:28 PM
Shades of the Verrazzano hack.
Lifemiles? JFK-EWR? Details?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 30, 2019, 01:39:33 PM
Lifemiles? JFK-EWR? Details?
One of my favorite parts of the DDS era.
Dead, AFAIK.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on June 30, 2019, 01:49:01 PM
It would be a one way BOS-JFK with a connection in TLV since it is less than 24 hours, and a one way more than 9601 miles is 139k.
This is working for JFK-EWR as well!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 30, 2019, 02:35:52 PM
One of my favorite parts of the DDS era.
Dead, AFAIK.
Dead because UA no longer flies out of JFK so now ya gotta pay the tolls...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on June 30, 2019, 02:38:02 PM
If only QF would price it as a less than 500 mile distance like UA did...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on June 30, 2019, 02:53:38 PM
Could we hear details of what route you were able to book and what it priced like?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on June 30, 2019, 03:05:14 PM
UA still flies from LGA
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Jkhein on July 01, 2019, 10:20:49 AM
When does the website decide to say that they canít find TLV location? How am I supposed to fix that?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 01, 2019, 10:21:09 AM
Use the DDMS search link.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on July 01, 2019, 10:22:30 AM
Use the DDMS search link.
You get commission on awards booking too?  ;)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Hjay on July 01, 2019, 12:07:34 PM
Use the DDMS search link.

Iíve tried still doesnít work on mobile for me. & requesting desktop site doesnít work either.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Afrages6 on July 01, 2019, 01:23:51 PM
Iíve tried still doesnít work on mobile for me. & requesting desktop site doesnít work either.
If youíre using an iPhone. Flip it to the side after requesting desktop site. That works for me
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: VLK on July 01, 2019, 01:47:25 PM
I know the cancelation penalty for these tix is 6,000 points. But can I cancel up until departure time or does it need to be 24 hours in advance?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: wakimike on July 01, 2019, 05:13:17 PM
If I book a flight that is within 24 hours of takeoff and I cancel 6 hours before flight is it still 6k?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on July 01, 2019, 06:31:12 PM
Can someone with a ticketed infant please text QF for the allowed checked baggage for the infant on El Al?
El Al standard allowance is 10kg for the infant, but I believe QF allowance (mentioned in the e-ticket) is 23kg.
Question basically is if a QF issued LY ticket gets the QF allowance?

(For example, in cases where PS needed to accommodate passengers on LY from the US, they issued tickets on El Al with 2 check bags included, which El Al check-in agents were able to see)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on July 01, 2019, 06:38:03 PM
Can someone with a ticketed infant please text QF for the allowed checked baggage for the infant on El Al?
El Al standard allowance is 10kg for the infant, but I believe QF allowance (mentioned in the e-ticket) is 23kg.
Question basically is if a QF issued LY ticket gets the QF allowance?

(For example, in cases where PS needed to accommodate passengers on LY from the US, they issued tickets on El Al with 2 check bags included, which El Al check-in agents were able to see)
on it
ETA: 23 kgs
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on July 01, 2019, 07:53:38 PM
Wikified (HT @Dan). Feel free to edit
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on July 01, 2019, 08:02:52 PM
Can someone with a ticketed infant please text QF for the allowed checked baggage for the infant on El Al?
El Al standard allowance is 10kg for the infant, but I believe QF allowance (mentioned in the e-ticket) is 23kg.
Question basically is if a QF issued LY ticket gets the QF allowance?

(For example, in cases where PS needed to accommodate passengers on LY from the US, they issued tickets on El Al with 2 check bags included, which El Al check-in agents were able to see)
on it
ETA: 23 kgs
LY may be able to see the QF allowance but it officially goes according to the LY policy, so have a backup plan.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on July 01, 2019, 08:11:31 PM
LY may be able to see the QF allowance but it officially goes according to the LY policy, so have a backup plan.
You're stating this as fact or you're assuming so?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on July 01, 2019, 08:16:17 PM
You're stating this as fact or you're assuming so?
I know of a case where PS booked on DL and they refused to allow the second bag for free. I don't have any DPs for LY but until you have lots of reports that it works you should have a backup plan. Again, their policy doesn't change no matter what it says on your ticket.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on July 01, 2019, 08:28:00 PM
I know of a case where PS booked on DL and they refused to allow the second bag for free. I don't have any DPs for LY but until you have lots of reports that it works you should have a backup plan. Again, their policy doesn't change no matter what it says on your ticket.
I have DP's of PS issued El Al tickets where they were able to take 2 checked bags.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Hjay on July 02, 2019, 08:28:40 AM
You should never rely on elal following policy. Every agent will do whatever they feel, dpís arenít gonna help you. Even dpís about them allowing an infant a full bag of 23kg wouldnít be a dp as there has been many times they allowed me a full suitcase for an infant (on a reg elal booking) & times they didnít.

Having QFís policy in writing or screenshot can hopefully help you to claim from qf a refund for paying for that extra bag in case elal doesnít cooperate.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bmw on July 02, 2019, 09:40:32 AM
I had a Interesting story a few days ago. I booked 2 family members in elal premium economy using my qf points. When they checked they didn't have seats next to each other. The agent told them there is a note in the reservation to upgrade them to business if possible but as of now no seats available and they should ask by the gate {and if only 1 seat opens if they want it}. By the gate they were told that they managed to put them together in premium {it wasn't overbooked} but no business yet, come check again in 20 minutes. Before boarding they put them both in business class !!!!.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: 12HRS on July 02, 2019, 10:14:36 AM
I had a Interesting story a few days ago. I booked 2 family members in elal premium economy using my qf points. When they checked they didn't have seats next to each other. The agent told them there is a note in the reservation to upgrade them to business if possible but as of now no seats available and they should ask by the gate {and if only 1 seat opens if they want it}. By the gate they were told that they managed to put them together in premium {it wasn't overbooked} but no business yet, come check again in 20 minutes. Before boarding they put them both in business class !!!!.

how did they get the note on the reservation  :o
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on July 02, 2019, 10:20:00 AM
how did they get the note on the reservation  :o
I guess some agent was in an especially good mood that day.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: sillypainter on July 02, 2019, 10:27:30 AM
For some people PE looks like business if they never experienced one :-) ask them if the seats were like a bed. Had the same with a relative who swore he was in business until interrogated further.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bmw on July 02, 2019, 10:57:58 AM
it was business proper lie flat bed. no idea how note came about
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on July 03, 2019, 11:32:42 PM
Flights between TLV and OTP, KBP, BOM, SOF are now bookable on qantas.com
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 04, 2019, 05:21:28 AM
Flights between TLV and OTP, KBP, BOM, SOF are now bookable on qantas.com
BOM-TLV?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on July 04, 2019, 06:56:09 AM
BOM-TLV?
What is your question?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 04, 2019, 07:01:22 AM
What is your question?
TLV-BOM always worked.
BOM-TLV didn't and seems like it still doesn't.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on July 04, 2019, 07:01:58 AM
TLV-BOM always worked.
BOM-TLV didn't and seems like it still doesn't.
Oh
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on July 04, 2019, 07:10:55 AM
I want to change the date on an LY flight booked via QF can I do so online?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 04, 2019, 07:14:53 AM
I want to change the date on an LY flight booked via QF can I do so online?
Officially yes, but often not.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Miami on July 05, 2019, 10:03:24 AM
I booked a business class ticket ewr-tlv. I am trying to select a seat and its giving me a "seat selection is  unavailable" error. Any way to change this?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 05, 2019, 10:05:15 AM
I booked a business class ticket ewr-tlv. I am trying to select a seat and its giving me a "seat selection is  unavailable" error. Any way to change this?
You need to call (or WhatsApp) LY.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: pashakym on July 07, 2019, 02:27:46 PM
Trying to book TLV-SFO with Qantas points. Texted to USA Qantas number as advised by Dan and chatted with 2 agents . Both weren't able to book this flight. They insist that they can book LA and NY flights only.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on July 07, 2019, 02:57:57 PM
Officially yes, but often not.
ended up calling cause it wouldnt let me do it online
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yosefsv on July 07, 2019, 03:03:49 PM
Trying to book TLV-SFO with Qantas points. Texted to USA Qantas number as advised by Dan and chatted with 2 agents . Both weren't able to book this flight. They insist that they can book LA and NY flights only.
HUCA
I had an Rep telling me the same thing, then i texted and they booked it with no issue.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: pashakym on July 07, 2019, 04:38:33 PM
HUCA
I had an Rep telling me the same thing, then i texted and they booked it with no issue.

Did you text to the US number?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yosefsv on July 07, 2019, 06:42:18 PM
Did you text to the US number?
Yes. ‪(478-772-6827‬)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on July 07, 2019, 11:16:09 PM
I booked 2 itineraries including infants then I chatted with them on Friday to confirm and they said itíll take 24 hrs to confirm,
As of now it still hasnít ticketed and the miles werenít deducted from my account.
Any idea what Iím supposed to do?
Btw the infants still donít have passports so I cannot update the APIS info.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on July 08, 2019, 12:04:08 AM
I booked 2 itineraries including infants then I chatted with them on Friday to confirm and they said itíll take 24 hrs to confirm,
As of now it still hasnít ticketed and the miles werenít deducted from my account.
Any idea what Iím supposed to do?
Btw the infants still donít have passports so I cannot update the APIS info.
Sit back and relax!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Hjay on July 08, 2019, 12:31:17 AM
Would it be easier to book without infant & add the infant after? Due to the delay in ticketing. Or just book with infant & hope that itíll go through in time?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on July 08, 2019, 12:37:25 AM
Would it be easier to book without infant & add the infant after? Due to the delay in ticketing. Or just book with infant & hope that itíll go through in time?
If they make you go thru elal you'll have to pay.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on July 08, 2019, 03:13:41 AM
I booked 2 itineraries including infants then I chatted with them on Friday to confirm and they said itíll take 24 hrs to confirm,
As of now it still hasnít ticketed and the miles werenít deducted from my account.
Any idea what Iím supposed to do?
Btw the infants still donít have passports so I cannot update the APIS info.
Make up APIS info, and if it doesn't get ticketed toward the end of the day, you need to call/text and insist they ticket instantly or the reservation will expire.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: pashakym on July 08, 2019, 08:04:27 AM
Yes. ‪(478-772-6827‬)

Success story here. After texting with 7 agents. Finally I was able to book TLV to SFO. 3 tickets in PE and 1 infant. Lesson learned: send messages only EST business time.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on July 08, 2019, 05:43:14 PM
Make up APIS info, and if it doesn't get ticketed toward the end of the day, you need to call/text and insist they ticket instantly or the reservation will expire.
Followed your advice, ticketed a few minutes later.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on July 08, 2019, 07:05:29 PM
Followed your advice, ticketed a few minutes later.
Thanks!
With calling or without?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on July 08, 2019, 09:15:49 PM
For the DP people.....

04JUL2048Z - made a booking online, got an error at checkout
04JUL2149Z - provided CC over the phone, was advised it will be ticketed in 24 hours
07JUL2258Z - CC Charged & points deducted
08JUL1510Z - I had to call again as it wasn't ticketed - flight 09JUL
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on July 08, 2019, 09:45:56 PM
For the DP people.....

04JUL2048Z - made a booking online, got an error at checkout
04JUL2149Z - provided CC over the phone, was advised it will be ticketed in 24 hours
07JUL2258Z - CC Charged & points deducted
08JUL1510Z - I had to call again as it wasn't ticketed - flight 09JUL
Interesting. I find that the cc charge is simultaneous with ticketing. You hadn't seen ticket numbers on LY website either, or were you just waiting for the email from QF?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on July 08, 2019, 10:34:04 PM
Interesting. I find that the cc charge is simultaneous with ticketing.
3 days apart for me.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on July 09, 2019, 05:50:37 AM
3 days apart for me.
Which was first?
If cc, had you checked LY site in between?
E-ticket email from QF often comes long after ticketing
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on July 09, 2019, 09:16:30 AM
Which was first?
If cc, had you checked LY site in between?
E-ticket email from QF often comes long after ticketing
CC. Yes I checked. Ticket had an infant.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on July 09, 2019, 09:24:54 AM
Interesting. I find that the cc charge is simultaneous with ticketing. You hadn't seen ticket numbers on LY website either, or were you just waiting for the email from QF?
Wasn't ticketed. Had to call and the agent said it will have it ticketed manually within the hour but was done within minutes

The timestamp are the actual time stamps - not based on emails
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: 12HRS on July 09, 2019, 12:25:49 PM
I booked a RT. Is it possible to cancel OW or would they need to cancel the whole trip?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: sglll on July 09, 2019, 12:45:57 PM
SFO. Booked, but not ticketed. Called Q and was told invalid, won't ticket. How did you get around this in ensuring it gets ticketed?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yosefsv on July 09, 2019, 09:53:20 PM
SFO. Booked, but not ticketed. Called Q and was told invalid, won't ticket. How did you get around this in ensuring it gets ticketed?
Text them @ 478-772-6827‬ or HUCA
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yosefsv on July 09, 2019, 09:55:38 PM
SFO. Booked, but not ticketed. Called Q and was told invalid, won't ticket. How did you get around this in ensuring it gets ticketed?
Success story here. After texting with 7 agents. Finally I was able to book TLV to SFO. 3 tickets in PE and 1 infant. Lesson learned: send messages only EST business time.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: J-town on July 10, 2019, 03:23:51 AM
RIP LY X Class
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 10, 2019, 05:03:17 AM
RIP LY X Class
Completely unrelated to QF.

Because they are removing X from GDS they are having issues with their system which reflects on QFs site as well.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Baglach on July 10, 2019, 05:44:37 AM
Completely unrelated to QF.

Because they are removing X from GDS they are having issues with their system which reflects on QFs site as well.
They removed E as well and its pricing on QF

Its definitely not looking good, the only hope is that they promised X Waitlist for TP and PL members so they do plan on keeping some type of Saver Award, however since it's elal you never know
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: J-town on July 10, 2019, 06:19:48 AM
They removed E as well and its pricing on QF

Its definitely not looking good, the only hope is that they promised X Waitlist for TP and PL members so they do plan on keeping some type of Saver Award, however since it's elal you never know

They didn't promise "X", they promised "waitlist". For all you know, it can be a waitlist for 10,000 Matmid instead of the current dynamic price of 13,000.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Baglach on July 10, 2019, 06:56:24 AM
Yep,

However when they announced dynamic they said it will be options for points only (saver chart), and then any seat for cash+points, again since its El Al it remains to be seen as they probably didn't figure out yet themselves
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 10, 2019, 12:42:45 PM
Yep,

However when they announced dynamic they said it will be options for points only (saver chart), and then any seat for cash+points, again since its El Al it remains to be seen as they probably didn't figure out yet themselves
Are there any saver awards on ElAl.com now?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on July 10, 2019, 01:05:49 PM
Another DP

Booked 3 awards on June 24 paid the old tax. Called in July 4 to have the tax refunded (tried by email but didn't get a response)
One PNR was reissued right away, and for the other 2 I called in now to get it reissued
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on July 10, 2019, 01:08:17 PM
Can someone explain what happened with El Al business availability via Qantas?  I couldn't really figure it out from the few posts I saw here...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 10, 2019, 01:10:48 PM
Are there any saver awards on ElAl.com now?
No.
Is this part of what you told them when you met? ;)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 10, 2019, 01:12:39 PM
No.
Is this part of what you told them when you met? ;)
Met whom?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 10, 2019, 01:13:04 PM
Can someone explain what happened with El Al business availability via Qantas?  I couldn't really figure it out from the few posts I saw here...
Seems to be gone from ElAl.com as well.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Baglach on July 10, 2019, 01:30:41 PM
Seems to be gone from ElAl.com as well.
I booked X with elal over phone today
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 10, 2019, 01:35:40 PM
Met whom?
OTP meeting with LY.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 10, 2019, 01:39:16 PM
They removed E as well and its pricing on QF

Its definitely not looking good, the only hope is that they promised X Waitlist for TP and PL members so they do plan on keeping some type of Saver Award, however since it's elal you never know
So they pulled E and X, but they kept P?
How is QF getting the E data?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on July 10, 2019, 02:12:31 PM
but they kept P?

because P is used for Revenue, Awards & upgrades - P is still showing in GDS

How is QF getting the E data?

Could be LY became like SQ and is keeping business awards to their own members
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on July 10, 2019, 02:41:15 PM
Could be LY became like SQ and is keeping business awards to their own members

Well, that would certainly throw a wrench in my plans...
But I'm optimistic that it's a temporary blip going by Dan's observation that they're gone from elal.com also.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: VLK on July 10, 2019, 03:18:19 PM
Are there any saver awards on ElAl.com now?
Found a few with saver in Economy for 800 points from NYC-TLV. I think it was 08/04
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Shem Tov on July 10, 2019, 04:41:35 PM
I am a bit concerned. I transferred 140k amex points and all went well (got a net of some 200k+). But, I just tried texting them to request flights. Took me 3 and a half hours to exchange about 10-15 messages and essentially they told me that their are no flights available over a 2 days period that I requested, not from JFK nor EWR, not in business, coach or coach plus. I pointed out that the EL AL web site listed multiple flights with award seats available it all cabins and even directed them to specific flights. They told me that that ELAL lists their availability but that Qantas has limited availability in what ELAL designates for award travel and that they had nothing that they can offer me. Did I squander my points?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on July 10, 2019, 04:44:03 PM
I am a bit concerned. I transferred 140k amex points and all went well (got a net of some 200k+). But, I just tried texting them to request flights. Took me 3 and a half hours to exchange about 10-15 messages and essentially they told me that their are no flights available over a 2 days period that I requested, not from JFK nor EWR, not in business, coach or coach plus. I pointed out that the EL AL web site listed multiple flights with award seats available it all cabins and even directed them to specific flights. They told me that that ELAL lists their availability but that Qantas has limited availability in what ELAL designates for award travel and that they had nothing that they can offer me. Did I squander my points?
If you only have a 2 day window that you need to book then you squandered your points. If you are more flexible you should be able to find coach and premium economy tickets
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zow on July 10, 2019, 04:58:13 PM
If you only have a 2 day window that you need to book then you squandered your points. If you are more flexible you should be able to find coach and premium economy tickets
+1
Or, if your dates are fixed, consider flying into and out of a different US gateway, and connect there.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 10, 2019, 04:59:27 PM
I have a call with LY IT and Matmid tomorrow.
Hopefully the new system is just buggy.
TBD.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: 12HRS on July 10, 2019, 05:03:08 PM
Will finding out be under a NDA?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on July 10, 2019, 05:03:41 PM
Will finding out be under a NDA?
He can only share with mods so you're good!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Shem Tov on July 10, 2019, 06:14:57 PM
My concern wasn't just availability, it was more that EL AL showered available reward seats and they didn't.  I had thought from Dans post that it went together
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on July 10, 2019, 06:17:34 PM
My concern wasn't just availability, it was more that EL AL showered available reward seats and they didn't.  I had thought from Dans post that it went together
Economy and premium economy should match
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Shem Tov on July 10, 2019, 07:16:19 PM
I tried economy and premium too.  Elal listed as available and Qantas said that they can't get it for me
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on July 10, 2019, 07:54:23 PM
I tried economy and premium too.  Elal listed as available and Qantas said that they can't get it for me
available in what class? Are you sure it was saver?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 10, 2019, 08:50:09 PM
I have a call with LY IT and Matmid tomorrow.
Hopefully the new system is just buggy.
TBD.
Please also bring up the frequent INVOL downgrades without comp of QF X pax, although I doubt that's coming back.

There are no reports of bugs showing/booking LY X from LY accounts that have enough points in them.

From the beginning LY has been gradually limiting QF access, from F to NYC, then F to LON, etc.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: thaber on July 11, 2019, 02:16:06 AM
Had a weird experience last night. flying ly5 in J booked on QF. booking was made in Dec '18. wasn't able to check in online or at kiosk, and at the counter they told me it wasn't completed by QF and they can't check me in. They said that usually it's because the APIS wasn't filled out, so at the counter I logged in to QF on my phone and resubmitted. Still no dice.
I texted QF, didn't get an answer right away, so called, and got through right away (miraculously). After banging his keyboard for a long time he told me that my credit card had been denied for the taxes and fees. Hard to believe, since I usually have plenty of space, it had been approved online, and they hadn't canceled the reservation or emailed me, but for $50 I wasn't going to lose the ticket, so I gave him my card over the phone and he ticketed it. went to the counter (keeping the guy on the phone) and it went through. As of now, 34 hours later, it still hasn't been charged to my card.
The LY staff was generally dismissive of the QF tickets, attitude of 'they mess up all the time, and it's points anyway, so you don't really deserve it' although they were very kind and compassionate on a personal level.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: CTRET on July 11, 2019, 03:34:45 AM
X and E now showing on Qantas but still not on Expertflyer. Not sure where they are getting the data from.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 11, 2019, 04:23:20 AM
I was wrong. QF can book LY biz online again.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on July 11, 2019, 04:34:42 AM
Had a weird experience last night. flying ly5 in J booked on QF. booking was made in Dec '18. wasn't able to check in online or at kiosk, and at the counter they told me it wasn't completed by QF and they can't check me in. They said that usually it's because the APIS wasn't filled out, so at the counter I logged in to QF on my phone and resubmitted. Still no dice.
I texted QF, didn't get an answer right away, so called, and got through right away (miraculously). After banging his keyboard for a long time he told me that my credit card had been denied for the taxes and fees. Hard to believe, since I usually have plenty of space, it had been approved online, and they hadn't canceled the reservation or emailed me, but for $50 I wasn't going to lose the ticket, so I gave him my card over the phone and he ticketed it. went to the counter (keeping the guy on the phone) and it went through. As of now, 34 hours later, it still hasn't been charged to my card.
The LY staff was generally dismissive of the QF tickets, attitude of 'they mess up all the time, and it's points anyway, so you don't really deserve it' although they were very kind and compassionate on a personal level.
whats the easiest way to know ones booking is ticketed?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on July 11, 2019, 05:31:47 AM
whats the easiest way to know ones booking is ticketed?
Log in on elal.com and look for ticket numbers
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on July 11, 2019, 06:30:47 AM
Log in on elal.com and look for ticket numbers
thanks
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on July 11, 2019, 08:17:37 AM
Log in on elal.com and look for ticket numbers
-1 Dosnt always work.


Go to Mytrips.com
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2019, 08:45:24 AM
I was wrong. QF can book LY biz online again.
Your welcome :)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on July 11, 2019, 08:45:56 AM
-1 Dosnt always work.


Go to Mytrips.com
I don't know where you're checking. Always shows by me (unless it's not ticketed)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2019, 08:46:35 AM
Please also bring up the frequent INVOL downgrades without comp of QF X pax, although I doubt that's coming back.

There are no reports of bugs showing/booking LY X from LY accounts that have enough points in them.

From the beginning LY has been gradually limiting QF access, from F to NYC, then F to LON, etc.
What has been happening with comp for those downgrades?
Is it coming from LY? QF? Any DoT complaints?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 11, 2019, 08:54:44 AM
I was wrong. QF can book LY biz online again.
I'm sure you're as happy to be wrong as I am to be right :)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Baglach on July 11, 2019, 09:43:02 AM
What has been happening with comp for those downgrades?
Is it coming from LY? QF? Any DoT complaints?
0 compensation
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2019, 09:53:31 AM
Did you complain to LY, QF, and DoT?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shmuels2 on July 11, 2019, 09:57:05 AM
Your welcome :)

From some cities. MIA currently still not showing, on QF or EF.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: CTRET on July 11, 2019, 09:59:21 AM
Your welcome :)
Any way of checking availability on expertflyer or is "x" a thing of the past?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2019, 10:02:21 AM
I will bring that up.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Muhammad on July 11, 2019, 10:11:28 AM
I will bring that up.
to who?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 11, 2019, 10:13:26 AM
I will bring that up.
I'm sure it's on the list, but AS deets?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moish on July 11, 2019, 01:57:57 PM
-1 Dosnt always work.


Go to Mytrips.com
I dont think that link is correct
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on July 11, 2019, 02:00:48 PM
I dont think that link is correct
Sorry here is the correct one.
https://www.checkmytrip.com
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Shem Tov on July 11, 2019, 02:10:16 PM
Please also bring up the frequent INVOL downgrades without comp of QF X pax, although I doubt that's coming back.

There are no reports of bugs showing/booking LY X from LY accounts that have enough points in them.

From the beginning LY has been gradually limiting QF access, from F to NYC, then F to LON, etc.

Honestly, don't remember. I thought so.....
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KidOOO on July 11, 2019, 09:58:46 PM
Any ideas why EF is only showing P class but no E or X ?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2019, 09:59:30 PM
Any ideas why EF is only showing P class but no E or X ?
DDMS
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Moshe26 on July 12, 2019, 09:39:11 AM
hey does anyone know if i cancel a booking online, will the miles be back in the account right away? if no whats the best way for me to cancel/ change a flight?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on July 12, 2019, 10:20:18 AM
hey does anyone know if i cancel a booking online, will the miles be back in the account right away? if no whats the best way for me to cancel/ change a flight?
posted by me like 2 hours after canceling
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yaakov on July 12, 2019, 01:01:45 PM
i see business in ly on qantas
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 12, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
i see business in ly on qantas
Good morning :)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on July 12, 2019, 01:06:17 PM
Text is very slow today...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yaakov on July 12, 2019, 01:30:12 PM
why is there tons of economy and premium economy awards but basically none in business
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yaakov on July 12, 2019, 01:30:56 PM
Text is very slow today...
you would think they have 1 person answering text
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Moshe26 on July 12, 2019, 01:50:53 PM
Text is very slow today...
VERY
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yaakov on July 12, 2019, 02:11:14 PM
im able to see award tickets on el al without any points in my account
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on July 12, 2019, 02:21:37 PM
Dynamic awards, not saver awards...
im able to see award tickets on el al without any points in my account
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yaakov on July 12, 2019, 02:25:05 PM
saver 495 is saver
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yaakov on July 12, 2019, 02:25:50 PM
and i tried it with business class and then checked qantas and it worked
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shimino1 on July 14, 2019, 03:55:11 AM
Can someone with enough points please check Matmid for Saver availability TLV-SFO on 7/17?
Thank you!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: tavster on July 14, 2019, 05:57:51 AM
Can someone with enough points please check Matmid for Saver availability TLV-SFO on 7/17?
Thank you!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: US on July 14, 2019, 08:03:51 AM

Can you check please 10/6 TLV-JFK LY11, Leaving TLV at 19:15.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on July 14, 2019, 08:07:50 AM
Guys stop being lazy. You can login to QF to check
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: US on July 14, 2019, 08:11:43 AM
Guys stop being lazy. You can login to QF to check
But If not Available on QF might still be available on ELAL. Wanna book on ELAL...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: tavster on July 14, 2019, 08:17:32 AM
But If not Available on QF might still be available on ELAL. Wanna book on ELAL...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on July 14, 2019, 08:18:18 AM
But If not Available on QF might still be available on ELAL. Wanna book on ELAL...
ok sorry my bad
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: US on July 14, 2019, 08:18:27 AM

Thanks.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 14, 2019, 09:13:21 AM
But If not Available on QF might still be available on ELAL. Wanna book on ELAL...
Why in the world?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shimino1 on July 14, 2019, 09:24:47 AM
Guys stop being lazy. You can login to QF to check
QF doesn't show SFO.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shimino1 on July 14, 2019, 09:25:38 AM

Thank you!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KidOOO on July 14, 2019, 10:39:19 AM
I just got points from Qantas for flying in P, which I booked with Qantas points 8)... Now I wish I added QF number on all passengers
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 14, 2019, 10:48:44 AM
How many points?
Try asking for retro credit?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: helpyouamdme on July 14, 2019, 10:50:26 AM
Is qantas having a problem showing El Al j availability?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KidOOO on July 14, 2019, 10:51:41 AM
How many points?
Try asking for retro credit?

6300 for TLV-JFK, will try that now
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on July 14, 2019, 11:11:58 AM
How many points?
Try asking for retro credit?

Ahem ahem... what happened to the old saying: "Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered" ???
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: cholent on July 14, 2019, 11:15:41 AM
I just got points from Qantas for flying in P, which I booked with Qantas points 8)... Now I wish I added QF number on all passengers
Same
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KidOOO on July 14, 2019, 11:18:27 AM


Ahem ahem... what happened to the old saying: "Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered" ???

I believe it's an automated process?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on July 14, 2019, 11:20:49 AM
I believe it's an automated process?

Oh.. well in that case please do let us know  ;D
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KidOOO on July 14, 2019, 11:27:34 AM
Oh.. well in that case please do let us know  ;D

Actually, I don't see LY on the standard form to claim missing points.

Looks like it needs to be done manually via email, not sure worth the risk

Quote
Claims for all other partner airlines need to be made to the Frequent Flyer Service Centre via email to frequent_flyer@qantas.com.au. You will need to include original boarding passes, copies of tickets along with any other supporting documentation confirming your entitlement to the missing points.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on July 14, 2019, 01:11:39 PM
Actually, I don't see LY on the standard form to claim missing points.

Looks like it needs to be done manually via email, not sure worth the risk

I would put this in the same file as all other "Don't call the airline" deals.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: US on July 14, 2019, 01:50:53 PM
Why in the world?
Because I need another J ticket I'm just scared with all these changes that ELAL is making that it won't be available. Dono what their next step is...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Jkhein on July 14, 2019, 04:35:16 PM
How many points?
Try asking for retro credit?
he must of gotten lucky, I did a few P flights and got no credit
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: CTRET on July 16, 2019, 01:25:23 AM
x showing again on expertflyer!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 16, 2019, 02:38:54 AM
x showing again on expertflyer!
As well as E and A, under awards tho, and no number or seats.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bmw on July 16, 2019, 03:54:56 PM
does someone know. if i book a rt and after taking the outbound want to upgrade cabins on the return can it be done ?

 i did it today from premium to business, however after a few hours seeing it wasnt reissued i called the call center and was advised it cannot be completed. since it was the south african call center [which are disastrous] i told them i will try my luck later with the australian call center...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on July 17, 2019, 12:22:54 AM
With calling or without?
sorry for delay,
I texted them
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: TravelSER on July 18, 2019, 09:40:51 AM
I was booked on 12:05 flight TLV-EWR, they ended up merging it with the 1:00 flight, so now my flight is 1:00, is it possible to get it changed to 12:20 TLV-JFK would ELAL/Qantas do it?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: tavster on July 18, 2019, 09:44:11 AM
I was booked on 12:05 flight TLV-EWR, they ended up merging it with the 1:00 flight, so now my flight is 1:00, is it possible to get it changed to 12:20 TLV-JFK would ELAL/Qantas do it?
Call them
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: TravelSER on July 18, 2019, 09:49:17 AM
Call them
I called ELAL, but they refused as it is a Qantas ticket, Qantas told me that they sent a request to ELAL to see if it could get changed.
My question is if anyone had luck doing this??
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ADG on July 18, 2019, 11:54:35 AM
I wanted to see if ppl will comment on the price of qantas miles which is highly influenced by this route. Since the amex promo prices have been rising from 1.1 to 1.185 for the price per point on the market. As long as availability remains strong as it has during summer and holidays, and supply gets slimmer, I can see the price moving way past 1.3. How high do you think it will go?

ETA: This belongs in the price thread... but still.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on July 18, 2019, 12:03:10 PM
I wanted to see if ppl will comment on the price of qantas miles which is highly influenced by this route. Since the amex promo prices have been rising from 1.1 to 1.185 for the price per point on the market. As long as availability remains strong as it has during summer and holidays, and supply gets slimmer, I can see the price moving way past 1.3. How high do you think it will go?

ETA: This belongs in the price thread... but still.
I would not call availability strong. You cannot find more than 2 X seats per flight
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 18, 2019, 07:36:09 PM


I wanted to see if ppl will comment on the price of qantas miles which is highly influenced by this route. Since the amex promo prices have been rising from 1.1 to 1.185 for the price per point on the market. As long as availability remains strong as it has during summer and holidays, and supply gets slimmer, I can see the price moving way past 1.3. How high do you think it will go?

ETA: This belongs in the price thread... but still.

Ever heard of amex? Amex will be at 1.15 shortly, so no...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: helpyouamdme on July 19, 2019, 10:45:17 AM
El Al  Is not showing me the option to choose a seat with a flight booked through Qantas, anyone had this issue?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: elya on July 19, 2019, 10:47:58 AM
El Al  Is not showing me the option to choose a seat with a flight booked through Qantas, anyone had this issue?
Have to PUTPAC/Whatsapp
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: helpyouamdme on July 19, 2019, 10:49:04 AM
Have to PUTPAC/Whatsapp
thank's
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: helpyouamdme on July 19, 2019, 11:04:51 AM
Is the new price chart in affect? i'm searching Qantas and regular price of 78k is showing up
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yaakov on July 19, 2019, 01:11:20 PM
Is the new price chart in affect? i'm searching Qantas and regular price of 78k is showing up
  how much do you want it to be
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: helpyouamdme on July 19, 2019, 01:30:33 PM
  how much do you want it to be
Quote from: Dan
If you want to book round-trip travel from NYC to Tel Aviv as of 9/18, youíll need 75.6K Qantas points in economy, 141.6K in premium economy, or 180K in business. Thatís a 10% decrease from previous economy rates, a 12.4% increase in premium economy, and an 11.5% increase in business class.
I still see for 78k
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on July 19, 2019, 01:48:27 PM
I still see for 78k
Read the paragraph you just quoted...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bmw on July 19, 2019, 04:31:15 PM
i also got 6300 for flying elal premium economy last week on points.. [one way]
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on July 19, 2019, 04:38:29 PM
i also got 6300 for flying elal premium economy last week on points.. [one way]
Seems like PE is triggering something.

Can any1 flying in future PE try crediting to AS?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on July 19, 2019, 05:04:27 PM
Seems like PE is triggering something.

Because it's the same fare class (P) as a revenue ticket.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: avrohomgelb on July 20, 2019, 10:37:10 PM
I booked a flight for a friend arriving in Tel Aviv 12:30pm Erev Yom Kippur. After a day or 2 he decided that it is a little late. Im on hold with Qantas for hours and hours noone is ever picking up, I need to change the flight. Can I call ElAl to change it? Is there any way to do it online? Does anyone know their policy? Tia
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Willie on July 20, 2019, 10:44:17 PM
I booked a flight for a friend arriving in Tel Aviv 12:30pm Erev Yom Kippur. After a day or 2 he decided that it is a little late. Im on hold with Qantas for hours and hours noone is ever picking up, I need to change the flight. Can I call ElAl to change it? Is there any way to do it online? Does anyone know their policy? Tia
Best way to find out their policies would be to text them.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on July 21, 2019, 12:38:53 AM
I booked a flight for a friend arriving in Tel Aviv 12:30pm Erev Yom Kippur. After a day or 2 he decided that it is a little late. Im on hold with Qantas for hours and hours noone is ever picking up, I need to change the flight. Can I call ElAl to change it? Is there any way to do it online? Does anyone know their policy? Tia
cancel online and rebook.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: avrohomgelb on July 21, 2019, 01:20:49 AM
cancel online and rebook.
Waited 1.5 hours and rebooked for 13k points and $20 USD was afraid to cancel because points come in after 10 business days flights were getting booked
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on July 21, 2019, 10:13:36 AM
Waited 1.5 hours and rebooked for 13k points and $20 USD was afraid to cancel because points come in after 10 business days flights were getting booked
Points come in within an hour
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bachhere on July 24, 2019, 09:59:27 PM
El al flights aren't showing up on Qantas website...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: 12HRS on July 24, 2019, 10:15:33 PM
El al flights aren't showing up on Qantas website...

Perfect time for CX searches
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ah giten on July 24, 2019, 10:47:25 PM
El al flights aren't showing up on Qantas website...
.... @Dan please contact them again...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: 12HRS on July 24, 2019, 10:57:39 PM
El al flights aren't showing up on Qantas website...

I just searched TLV-HKG and it showed up for what its worth
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: oldguy on July 24, 2019, 11:19:40 PM
El al flights aren't showing up on Qantas website...
I just searched TLV-HKG and it showed up for what its worth
He probably tried 'use Money', Not 'use points'. When doing that TLV doesn't even come up as an option.
I booked today 3 x 2 El Al Tickets with QF and I saw full availability
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bachhere on July 24, 2019, 11:32:01 PM
He probably tried 'use Money', Not 'use points'. When doing that TLV doesn't even come up as an option.
I booked today 3 x 2 El Al Tickets with QF and I saw full availability

No. I searched NYC to TLV.
I also saw it earlier today, but if you search now, you won't see any Elal direct flights showing up.

If you do, please let me know.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: aygart on July 24, 2019, 11:41:49 PM
No. I searched NYC to TLV.
I also saw it earlier today, but if you search now, you won't see any Elal direct flights showing up.

If you do, please let me know.
Maybe there is no availability for the dates you searched
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bachhere on July 24, 2019, 11:51:10 PM
Maybe there is no availability for the dates you searched
I searched many dates.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: oldguy on July 25, 2019, 12:20:53 AM
No. I searched NYC to TLV.
I also saw it earlier today, but if you search now, you won't see any Elal direct flights showing up.

If you do, please let me know.
I stand corrected, I booked tickets about 2.5 hrs ago, but now I see nothing
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on July 25, 2019, 04:07:49 AM
rebooked for 13k points and $20 USD
why?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: TravelSER on July 25, 2019, 06:04:57 AM
See a lot routes Europe/Toronto... but not showing any TLV-NYC
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Moshe90 on July 25, 2019, 08:01:41 AM
same issue, checked a lot of dates to TLV,  Elal is not showing up
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: 12HRS on July 25, 2019, 08:02:01 AM
found tlv-lax
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: TravelSER on July 25, 2019, 08:05:05 AM
found tlv-lax
So the issue is only TLV-NYC?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Lamppost on July 25, 2019, 08:09:59 AM
This may have been mentioned before, but I want to book my friend and his wife tickets from my qantas account. I know that this is officially not allowed. But will qantas let me make the reservation? What are the odds of getting busted?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: 12HRS on July 25, 2019, 08:15:30 AM
So the issue is only TLV-NYC?

maybe. I did not see any lax-tlv but I wasn't searching more than a couple dates
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on July 25, 2019, 08:23:48 AM
seems like theres an issue to/from NYC
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 25, 2019, 08:34:40 AM
Bookable via SMS?
I'm assuming EF is also down for NYC?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: TravelSER on July 25, 2019, 08:36:30 AM
I'm assuming EF is also down for NYC?
Yes it is down
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moisheyb on July 25, 2019, 10:05:31 AM
Anyway to check potential availability now?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Moshe90 on July 25, 2019, 10:13:01 AM
Yes it is down
its not
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: brodes18 on July 25, 2019, 10:58:51 AM
its not

It is, just checked. This is only down for NYC - TLV
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on July 25, 2019, 11:32:48 AM
Anyway to check availability for NYC - TLV now?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Lamppost on July 25, 2019, 12:06:49 PM
I was able to find TLV-EWR by doing a search for TLV-BOS. it pulled up a LY flight from TLV-EWR and a seperate AA flight EWR-BOS. When I searched for just TLV-EWR nothing came up
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yaakov on July 25, 2019, 01:16:53 PM
trying to text them but their texting service is horrible today
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: GLUSHTYGOONKY on July 25, 2019, 01:36:00 PM
 This may be the end of the partnership
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yaakov on July 25, 2019, 01:45:34 PM
not coming up with sms either.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: brodes18 on July 25, 2019, 02:03:53 PM
This may be the end of the partnership

-1
Title: Zero availability on qantas booking elal direct - NYC-TLV
Post by: bigG on July 25, 2019, 03:03:18 PM
Just searched dozens of dates throughout the whole summer and winter. I don't any seats in any class available for elal direct. All the options are for other partners (some using elal to connect)
Game over?
Title: Re: Zero availability on qantas booking elal direct.
Post by: Davidp on July 25, 2019, 03:07:43 PM
Just searched dozens of dates throughout the whole summer and winter. I don't any seats in any class available for elal direct. All the options are for other partners (some using elal to connect)
Game over?
-1   Seems to be down for TLV-NYC (& vice versa) only.
Title: Re: Zero availability on qantas booking elal direct.
Post by: bigG on July 25, 2019, 03:10:43 PM
Thats the route I'm talking about :)
Nobody cares about TLV-PRG
Title: Re: Zero availability on qantas booking elal direct.
Post by: hvaces42 on July 25, 2019, 03:12:30 PM
And we needed another thread on this topic because its too difficult to look one thread down.  >:(
Title: Re: Zero availability on qantas booking elal direct.
Post by: Davidp on July 25, 2019, 03:13:58 PM
Thats the route I'm talking about :)
Nobody cares about TLV-PRG
So maybe specify before making a broad doomsday announcement :) Iím seeing availability YYZ-TLV , LAX-TLV, etc.
Title: Re: Zero availability on qantas booking elal direct.
Post by: Davidp on July 25, 2019, 03:14:28 PM
And we needed another thread on this topic because its too difficult to look one thread down.  >:(
Lol true
Title: Re: Zero availability on qantas booking elal direct.
Post by: 12HRS on July 25, 2019, 03:16:23 PM
Thats the route I'm talking about :)
Nobody cares about TLV-PRG

I just booked TLV-HKG so  ::)
Title: Re: Zero availability on qantas booking elal direct.
Post by: bigG on July 25, 2019, 03:19:17 PM
So maybe specify before making a broad doomsday announcement :) Iím seeing availability YYZ-TLV , LAX-TLV, etc.

Solid point. People in the tri state area forget there is a big wide world out there :)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on July 25, 2019, 05:04:35 PM
Does anyone have points in an LY account that can check if it works with Matmid points?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ayspit on July 25, 2019, 07:53:47 PM
any luck to book from nyc via phone ?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Moshe90 on July 25, 2019, 08:09:24 PM
any luck to book from nyc via phone ?
tried today, no luck
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: YED on July 25, 2019, 08:26:19 PM
Same on LY website (account has over 12k points, so no issue)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: YED on July 25, 2019, 08:32:30 PM
Same on LY website (account has over 12k points, so no issue)
Just checked again on LY website and availability is back for TLV-NYC and NYC-TLV
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: simplicity on July 25, 2019, 08:38:02 PM
Just checked again on LY website and availability is back for TLV-NYC and NYC-TLV
whats LY site?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: brodes18 on July 25, 2019, 08:43:01 PM
Just checked again on LY website and availability is back for TLV-NYC and NYC-TLV

Still not showing up on Qantas. Maybe it take a few minutes to update on their side.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ayspit on July 26, 2019, 02:03:36 AM
i successfully booked with qf over the phone ewr-tlv and even got the rep to waive the 6k points phone booking fee.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on July 26, 2019, 04:52:15 AM
i successfully booked with qf over the phone ewr-tlv and even got the rep to waive the 6k points phone booking fee.
how long did you wait on hold?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: SrulyS on July 26, 2019, 06:31:47 AM
whats LY site?

LY = El Al
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Moshe90 on July 26, 2019, 07:38:51 AM
Tried yesterday over phone ,no luck,      tried today via TXT, booked  successfully
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: brodes18 on July 26, 2019, 03:10:25 PM
Tried sms this morning, they had availability. But since they were slammed on sms, it was gone by the time they got around to book it. Unsure if its just my date or accross the board NYC - TLV.

Tried calling, waited on hold for an our and then gave up. Not very polished situation here.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: gubevo18 on July 27, 2019, 04:53:52 PM
How long does it normally take for them to deduct the points on your flight?
I booked about two weeks ago, added the passport info about a week ago, and still havent had points deducted even though it says my status is confirmed. Im sure my points will be deducted eventually I just hope im ticketed before my flight which is in two days.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mmgfarb on July 27, 2019, 05:20:07 PM
How long does it normally take for them to deduct the points on your flight?
I booked about two weeks ago, added the passport info about a week ago, and still havent had points deducted even though it says my status is confirmed. Im sure my points will be deducted eventually I just hope im ticketed before my flight which is in two days.
Text them to ticket your reservation.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Yoel on July 27, 2019, 07:06:36 PM
if i check bos-tlv it shows me the jfk-tlv flight via bos
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Davidp on July 28, 2019, 03:06:10 AM
How long does it normally take for them to deduct the points on your flight?
I booked about two weeks ago, added the passport info about a week ago, and still havent had points deducted even though it says my status is confirmed. Im sure my points will be deducted eventually I just hope im ticketed before my flight which is in two days.
Txt or Twitter DM QF to have ďsecure flight infoĒ completed. Had this issue multiple times, and each time was able to get it ticketed within a few hours
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Yoel on July 28, 2019, 10:39:31 AM
if i check bos-tlv it shows me the jfk-tlv flight via bos
Can I book Bos-Jfk-Tlv and then call to cancel the bos-jfk leg? will it cost me if i do it right away?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 28, 2019, 10:41:03 AM
Why not just text to book NYC-TLV?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Yoel on July 28, 2019, 10:43:13 AM
Why not just text to book NYC-TLV?
Im in israel
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 28, 2019, 10:43:47 AM
Use Google voice.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on July 28, 2019, 12:46:44 PM
Use Google voice.
IINM, it's complicated to set up from Israel
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on July 28, 2019, 12:50:28 PM
@Dan are you taking care of this bug?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 28, 2019, 01:19:43 PM
@Dan are you taking care of this bug?
LY says it's not them.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Solma on July 28, 2019, 01:23:48 PM
LY says it's not them.

Interesting, On EF itís not either showing space under awards and upgrades for NYC - TLV route.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 28, 2019, 01:28:51 PM
Interesting, On EF itís not either showing space under awards and upgrades for NYC - TLV route.
EF is just scraping QF's site AFAIK @ExpertFlyer Voice
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on July 28, 2019, 03:17:40 PM
EF is just scraping QF's site AFAIK @ExpertFlyer Voice
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=20105.msg331340.msg#331340

@ *A he claims not to be scraping, I guess @ OW  it's a different story, but why not CX? Maybe hes not scraping?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on July 28, 2019, 03:19:27 PM
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=20105.msg331340.msg#331340

@ *A he claims not to be scraping, I guess @ OW  it's a different story, but why not CX? Maybe hes not scraping?
Where else can they get it from if it's not in GDS?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: GLUSHTYGOONKY on July 28, 2019, 05:44:30 PM
Is there any way to get outta qf cancellation fee if they never ticketed it to elal
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: S123 on July 28, 2019, 06:28:30 PM
Theyíre saying no availability through the end of August for jfk to tlv, does that make sense?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on July 28, 2019, 06:52:41 PM
Theyíre saying no availability through the end of August for jfk to tlv, does that make sense?
It's a bug. See the posts from the past 5 days.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: S123 on July 28, 2019, 07:08:15 PM
It's a bug. See the posts from the past 5 days.
I looked, is there anything to do right now?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 28, 2019, 07:26:40 PM
Can I book Bos-Jfk-Tlv and then call to cancel the bos-jfk leg? will it cost me if i do it right away?
Anyone try this?
Should fall under the 24 hour refund policy as long as it's 7 or more days before departure.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moisheyb on July 28, 2019, 07:28:09 PM
Anyone try this?
Should fall under the 24 hour refund policy as long as it's 7 or more days before departure.
Haven't found availability anymore.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on July 28, 2019, 07:48:29 PM
BOS-TLV 11/11
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: brodes18 on July 28, 2019, 08:47:11 PM
If BOS-TLV is not there, you can also try IAD which worked for me. I can't book since I don't have the extra miles needed to book it with the stopover.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: brodes18 on July 28, 2019, 08:48:13 PM
Is there any info as to why LY is blocking all NYC award space?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: gubevo18 on July 29, 2019, 05:55:01 AM
Until when can qantas change my flight? If I am flying int 4 hours can they help me?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Afrages6 on July 29, 2019, 07:36:05 AM
Until when can qantas change my flight? If I am flying int 4 hours can they help me?
Yes, just might take a while
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mmgfarb on July 29, 2019, 07:40:05 AM
LY says it's not them.
I don't believe that they have nothing to do with this, don't know what's going on, and can do nothing about it.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on July 29, 2019, 12:38:18 PM
How long does it take for points to come back in after cancelling a flight? (has been mentioned upthread - don't remember response)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: oldguy on July 29, 2019, 02:51:47 PM
How long does it take for points to come back in after cancelling a flight? (has been mentioned upthread - don't remember response)

Points come in within an hour
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on July 29, 2019, 03:19:18 PM

Well, now I have a DP proving otherwise.  :( It's been 3 hours already.

Was I required to have the 6k in my account at the time of cancellation?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: avrohomgelb on July 30, 2019, 02:11:24 AM
How do i know if flight is actually booked? Last week i needed to change flight date. Rep told me i needed 13k Qantas points to do so, i quickly transferred 13k Qantas points from friend. The flight date changed, 13k points are still in account. When i try to manage my flight it says "your booking is processing" its been over a week. Anyone had a similar issue?
Title: Re: Zero availability on qantas booking elal direct - NYC-TLV
Post by: shaiplay on July 30, 2019, 07:36:01 AM
But is you book to BOS for example, all the flights on ElAL that were available last week for example will reappear.. weird, for example if you punch in TLV to BOS August 5 2019 you'll see the two non stop flights to EWR or JFK available as a connection, and it will cost more miles
Trying to call Qantas, there's more than 60 minutes wait time, anyone reached them?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bachhere on July 30, 2019, 11:13:22 AM
How do i know if flight is actually booked? Last week i needed to change flight date. Rep told me i needed 13k Qantas points to do so, i quickly transferred 13k Qantas points from friend. The flight date changed, 13k points are still in account. When i try to manage my flight it says "your booking is processing" its been over a week. Anyone had a similar issue?

SMS
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bachhere on July 30, 2019, 11:16:05 AM
I booked tickets last week via SMS.

The agent double confirmed the birth dates with me, for example:

''John Smith DOB 1/2/1980 - January 2, 1980''


Of course when I checked on Elal it said Feb. 1, 1980.
I messaged Elal on whatsapp, and they fixed it within a minute.

I was actually very impressed.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: VLK on July 30, 2019, 03:06:44 PM
For EF searches it also works to search BOS-TLV. It allows you to see award availability from NYC. but if you search NYC-TLV direct it won't show
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Naftuli19 on July 30, 2019, 03:33:20 PM
How can i check how much YQ is without having points in my account?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on July 30, 2019, 03:41:38 PM
How can i check how much YQ is without having points in my account?
There is no YQ on LY
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Naftuli19 on July 30, 2019, 04:22:36 PM
There is no YQ on LY
its not for LY
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on July 30, 2019, 04:27:41 PM
its not for LY
wrong thread but check matrix
Title: Re: Zero availability on qantas booking elal direct - NYC-TLV
Post by: yelped on July 30, 2019, 10:54:19 PM
But is you book to BOS for example, all the flights on ElAL that were available last week for example will reappear.. weird, for example if you punch in TLV to BOS August 5 2019 you'll see the two non stop flights to EWR or JFK available as a connection, and it will cost more miles
Trying to call Qantas, there's more than 60 minutes wait time, anyone reached them?

Text them.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: avrohomgelb on August 01, 2019, 09:16:01 AM
Quote of the day: when you're on hold with Qantas and for the fifth time you think you hear a song from a Jewish choir, it is time to hang up and call back a different day you were on hold for over 2 hours.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bachhere on August 01, 2019, 11:38:58 AM
You can no longer see availability for other US cities...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on August 01, 2019, 11:50:02 AM
You can no longer see availability for other US cities...
Ugh.
Still bookable via SMS/phone?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on August 01, 2019, 12:07:11 PM
You can no longer see availability for other US cities...
Upon further review, this is #FakeNews
(https://i.gyazo.com/f94b7a6778cfff9e167c85c6646cd907.png)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yanky1 on August 01, 2019, 12:25:47 PM
i can no longer find NYC - TLV even as a stop when starting BOS, CLE, etc....
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Moshe26 on August 01, 2019, 12:29:53 PM
i can no longer find NYC - TLV even as a stop when starting BOS, CLE, etc....
also wasnt able to see today but maybe bc the flights i was looking for were sold out.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on August 01, 2019, 12:44:02 PM
i can no longer find NYC - TLV even as a stop when starting BOS, CLE, etc....
did you see the screenshot from Dan?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Solma on August 01, 2019, 12:45:47 PM
Ugh.
Still bookable via SMS/phone?

Yes. If you get thru to a good agent.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on August 01, 2019, 12:49:44 PM
i can no longer find NYC - TLV even as a stop when starting BOS, CLE, etc....
I saw NYC on my BOS search.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Solma on August 01, 2019, 12:59:07 PM
Upon further review, this is #FakeNews
(https://i.gyazo.com/f94b7a6778cfff9e167c85c6646cd907.png)

Problem is only for flight from TLV to US.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bachhere on August 01, 2019, 01:03:15 PM
did you see the screenshot from Dan?

now I see some dates do have availability, however, there is much less than yesterday.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Yoel on August 01, 2019, 02:20:34 PM
what class of economy for LY ath-tlv if booked through qantas -  Lite or Classic ?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: iluv2travel on August 02, 2019, 12:38:35 AM
Just a data point regarding receiving a refund on the taxes if you paid the $28.20 on an award like I did, but it was really supposed to be $9.60.

I booked a number of award seats on June 17th during the heyday of the Qantas Amex promo.  Towards the end of the month I used SMS to request the refund of $18.60 per award and after some back and forth over a couple of days they confirmed that all would get refunded.  Received some refunds on July 1st and some on July 4th.  There were a few that I was still awaiting the refunds and I probably texted them at least 8 to 10 times requesting the refunds and repeating myself like a parrot over and over again giving them all the requested information.  I finally got the refunds dated July 30th (but I only saw it posted it to my account today because I know that it takes like 3 days for refunds to actually show up on my card).  So b"h I finally got all my refunds on the over-payment of the taxes.

Bottom line lesson is that if you are polite and persistent you will get it back.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Solma on August 03, 2019, 06:24:40 PM
QF and LY availability not matching ??  (Seeing it on lots of dates - Mainly EX-TLV)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: avrohomgelb on August 03, 2019, 09:30:36 PM
I may have gotten a free Business Class Upgrade.
I booked BOS to TLV economy class. After realizing how stupid that was, i contacted Qantas via SMS to upgrade me to Business. Do to the lack of availability (yes i tried looking with stopovers etc.), I'm flying from YYZ to TLV. I never recieved a confirmation email, although when i log into my account it says i have a flight for the correct location and date. After 2 weeks i contacted Qantas via SMS, asking if i actually have the flight, they said its processing, and i should recieve confirmation with in 24 hours. I recieved confirmation with ticket and a credit card charge for taxes this morning at 6am, but the 40k or so points were never deducted from my account. Did i get a free upgrade?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: J-town on August 04, 2019, 01:50:59 AM
I may have gotten a free Business Class Upgrade.
I booked BOS to TLV economy class. After realizing how stupid that was, i contacted Qantas via SMS to upgrade me to Business. Do to the lack of availability (yes i tried looking with stopovers etc.), I'm flying from YYZ to TLV. I never recieved a confirmation email, although when i log into my account it says i have a flight for the correct location and date. After 2 weeks i contacted Qantas via SMS, asking if i actually have the flight, they said its processing, and i should recieve confirmation with in 24 hours. I recieved confirmation with ticket and a credit card charge for taxes this morning at 6am, but the 40k or so points were never deducted from my account. Did i get a free upgrade?

Nope. The points will get deducted eventually.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on August 05, 2019, 11:51:29 AM
QF phone reps no longer seeing LY space between NYC - TLV. Heard multiple reports from the past 12-24 hrs. If anyone has been successful via SMS or phone from NYC, please report. Didn't check other LY routes either. Anyone booked LY with QF in the past 24 hours? (Any route)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ar on August 05, 2019, 12:44:40 PM
QF phone reps no longer seeing LY space between NYC - TLV. Heard multiple reports from the past 12-24 hrs. If anyone has been successful via SMS or phone from NYC, please report. Didn't check other LY routes either. Anyone booked LY with QF in the past 24 hours? (Any route)

I wanted to book P class for tonight on LY 1/27 with 63K QF miles.

Called and texted multiple times (took hours...), they only saw the day flight avail (LY7). They did not see anything on the midnight flights, even though it was clearly showing on Matmid site as avail. So so frustrating

Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: tavster on August 05, 2019, 12:48:25 PM
even though it was clearly showing on Matmid site as avail. So so frustrating
You're right I see 3 P on LY1 and 2 on LY27 on Matmid
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on August 05, 2019, 12:50:41 PM
I wanted to book P class for tonight on LY 1/27 with 63K QF miles.

Called and texted multiple times (took hours...), they only saw the day flight avail (LY7). They did not see anything on the midnight flights, even though it was clearly showing on Matmid site as avail. So so frustrating
I don't think phone and text can ever book within 24 hours of the flight
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Solma on August 05, 2019, 02:01:53 PM
QF phone reps no longer seeing LY space between NYC - TLV. Heard multiple reports from the past 12-24 hrs. If anyone has been successful via SMS or phone from NYC, please report. Didn't check other LY routes either. Anyone booked LY with QF in the past 24 hours? (Any route)

From speaking to multiple QF agents, seems like QF is not seeing The same space that are available on LY. In X, P , and E class.  But some dates are available thru QF.

Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on August 05, 2019, 03:09:15 PM


Like M&M to S*

Star Star, yes, of course!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ar on August 05, 2019, 03:37:07 PM

Star Star, yes, of course!

:)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on August 05, 2019, 07:20:17 PM
I booked a few weeks ago 9 seats thru qantas for elal flight Thursday 1pm in December and I just got an email saying that the ticket was changed to the 8pm flight which arrives 1:20pm in Israel.

Did anyone have a similar experience?
Any advice is appreciated!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: avrohomgelb on August 06, 2019, 01:27:34 AM
I may have gotten a free Business Class Upgrade.
I booked BOS to TLV economy class. After realizing how stupid that was, i contacted Qantas via SMS to upgrade me to Business. Do to the lack of availability (yes i tried looking with stopovers etc.), I'm flying from YYZ to TLV. I never recieved a confirmation email, although when i log into my account it says i have a flight for the correct location and date. After 2 weeks i contacted Qantas via SMS, asking if i actually have the flight, they said its processing, and i should recieve confirmation with in 24 hours. I recieved confirmation with ticket and a credit card charge for taxes this morning at 6am, but the 40k or so points were never deducted from my account. Did i get a free upgrade?
Update 4 days later. Points still in my account
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Yoel on August 06, 2019, 07:46:57 AM
How long does it take to get the points back after I cancel?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: tavster on August 06, 2019, 07:55:04 AM
How long does it take to get the points back after I cancel?
Couple of hours
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: tavster on August 06, 2019, 08:10:51 AM
Not sure if this is the right place but I've started to notice on 777 routes the back of J allocated to Y due to the lack of J passengers on a first come first serve basis.

For example that's tomorrow's flight out of Boston. It's definitely not the first time I'm seeing this so could be a good way to score J seat at Y price with a bit of luck
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on August 06, 2019, 08:49:09 AM
Not sure if this is the right place but I've started to notice on 777 routes the back of J allocated to Y due to the lack of J passengers on a first come first serve basis.

For example that's tomorrow's flight out of Boston. It's definitely not the first time I'm seeing this so could be a good way to score J seat at Y price with a bit of luck
I noticed this on the LON route a few weeks ago.
It's not at the price of Y. You need to pay for the seat (I believe they wanted $300 to LON for one way, which isn't such a steal considering J class isn't that much more, and this comes with Y meal and 0 bags if on a Lite ticket.)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: tavster on August 06, 2019, 08:54:29 AM
I noticed this on the LON route a few weeks ago.
It's not at the price of Y. You need to pay for the seat (I believe they wanted $300 to LON for one way, which isn't such a steal considering J class isn't that much more, and this comes with Y meal and 0 bags if on a Lite ticket.)

Officially yes, but there are times where they don't bother selling them, and it's available on a first come first serve basis through the seat-map. A friend experienced this last month (to London), and I had this (to Thailand)

 
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on August 06, 2019, 01:18:24 PM
I booked a few weeks ago 9 seats thru qantas for elal flight Thursday 1pm in December and I just got an email saying that the ticket was changed to the 8pm flight which arrives 1:20pm in Israel.

Did anyone have a similar experience?
Any advice is appreciated!
elal claims I have to call qantas
Qantas first told me they can only offer me a refund (I have nothing from a few hundred K in my account) now Iím on hold with a supervisor whoís trying to contact ELAL
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shmooz on August 06, 2019, 02:25:38 PM
I booked a few weeks ago 9 seats thru qantas for elal flight Thursday 1pm in December and I just got an email saying that the ticket was changed to the 8pm flight which arrives 1:20pm in Israel.

Did anyone have a similar experience?
Any advice is appreciated!

Is it from EWR? They seemed to hasve cancelled some of the 1 pm flights. Thats what happened to me.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on August 06, 2019, 02:36:08 PM
Yes
Where did they rebook you?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on August 06, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
The qantas supervisor was very nice but she said that ELAL was very not helpful and The only other option is to cancel

Any advice??
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: GLUSHTYGOONKY on August 06, 2019, 02:40:55 PM
Anyone kno whats going on with NYC tlv ? Also wheres the best place to credit elal miles to ? Is it AS?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shmooz on August 06, 2019, 03:10:27 PM
Yes
Where did they rebook you?

my flight isn't on a thursday, so i  have no problem to go on the 8:20 pm

Other than trying again, to get on the JFK flight, or day before from EWR, there isnt much you can do.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zee on August 06, 2019, 10:20:51 PM
*Two months ago* I booked three o/w tickets from tlv to jfk for a trip several months out. One ticket has lap-infant on it. I have the PNR, yet all three tickets have requested APIS - that I hadn't yet provided.. Meanwhile I verified the ticket #s on ELAL, and even modified meals etc on elal's site.

Two months now, and My Qantas points have still not yet been deducted, and LY ticket # still showing..
I read many similar scenarios up thread, but none confirming elal ticket numbers...

Can I double dip on my QT points and book another round? Should I be concerned about the above flights? Anything I need to do?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Davidp on August 06, 2019, 10:25:34 PM
*Two months ago* I booked three o/w tickets from tlv to jfk for a trip several months out. One ticket has lap-infant on it. I have the PNR, yet all three tickets have requested APIS - that I hadn't yet provided.. Meanwhile I verified the ticket #s on ELAL, and even modified meals etc on elal's site.

Two months now, and My Qantas points have still not yet been deducted, and LY ticket # still showing..
I read many similar scenarios up thread, but none confirming elal ticket numbers...

Can I double dip on my QT points and book another round? Should I be concerned about the above flights? Anything I need to do?
Text/DM qantas and they should be able to ticket quickly. I had the same scenario recently and got ticketed shortly after getting in touch with them...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zee on August 06, 2019, 10:41:57 PM
Text/DM qantas and they should be able to ticket quickly. I had the same scenario recently and got ticketed shortly after getting in touch with them...

But I already have my elal ticket numbers. Aren't those enough to check in and fly? Why would I rock the boat with Qantas?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Davidp on August 06, 2019, 10:45:41 PM
But I already have my elal ticket numbers. Aren't those enough to check in and fly? Why would I rock the boat with Qantas?
I actually misread your post. Didnít realize you had El Al ticket #ís.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yochai on August 06, 2019, 10:53:13 PM
*Two months ago* I booked three o/w tickets from tlv to jfk for a trip several months out. One ticket has lap-infant on it. I have the PNR, yet all three tickets have requested APIS - that I hadn't yet provided.. Meanwhile I verified the ticket #s on ELAL, and even modified meals etc on elal's site.

Two months now, and My Qantas points have still not yet been deducted, and LY ticket # still showing..
I read many similar scenarios up thread, but none confirming elal ticket numbers...

Can I double dip on my QT points and book another round? Should I be concerned about the above flights? Anything I need to do?
Had the same thing a few weeks ago, though that was for a next day ticket. I got the ticket, flew, and they still didnít deduct the points. I booked another ticket a few days later using the same points. Unfortunately, this time they deducted them.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mocool on August 06, 2019, 11:16:02 PM
QF phone reps no longer seeing LY space between NYC - TLV. Heard multiple reports from the past 12-24 hrs. If anyone has been successful via SMS or phone from NYC, please report. Didn't check other LY routes either. Anyone booked LY with QF in the past 24 hours? (Any route)

I just booked a round trip JFK-TLV-JFK in J on Elal using Qantas.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on August 06, 2019, 11:17:29 PM
I just booked a round trip JFK-TLV-JFK in J on Elal using Qantas.
Via SMS?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mocool on August 07, 2019, 07:58:16 AM
confirmed space via sms then called to book.
the space was coming up on qantas.com usning BOS and CLE trick.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on August 07, 2019, 08:26:09 AM
Just worked on the his for a while. Qantas can't see 90% of the flights available on elal.com
@Dan
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Solma on August 07, 2019, 08:46:24 AM
Just worked on the his for a while. Qantas can't see 90% of the flights available on elal.com
@Dan

+1
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Moshe90 on August 07, 2019, 10:13:17 AM
Had the same thing a few weeks ago, though that was for a next day ticket. I got the ticket, flew, and they still didnít deduct the points. I booked another ticket a few days later using the same points. Unfortunately, this time they deducted them.
same story..  i booked in april a ticket for jun, they never deduct the points, booked again 2 weeks ago with the same points and flew again, this time it was deducted
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on August 07, 2019, 10:17:40 AM
same story..  i booked in april a ticket for jun, they never deduct the points, booked again 2 weeks ago with the same points and flew again, this time it was deducted
I guess some ppl had it x4 with QF. [Amex +qf]
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shopcomputer on August 07, 2019, 03:27:07 PM
Trying to change a date on a booking, they said I will be charged a 5000 point change fee plus a 8000 point service fee, is that correct, you are charged 2 fees for a change?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on August 07, 2019, 04:56:45 PM
Trying to change a date on a booking, they said I will be charged a 5000 point change fee plus a 8000 point service fee, is that correct, you are charged 2 fees for a change?
ask them to waive the service fee
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: YesThatsMe on August 07, 2019, 08:53:16 PM
My flight is available to book online, but after I input passenger name and contact info it won't let press "continue", tried refreshing multiple times, anyone had this issue?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Denverite on August 07, 2019, 09:56:43 PM
My flight is available to book online, but after I input passenger name and contact info it won't let press "continue", tried refreshing multiple times, anyone had this issue?

And you have enough points already sitting in the account?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: YesThatsMe on August 07, 2019, 10:03:05 PM
And you have enough points already sitting in the account?

Yes
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: flyingace on August 07, 2019, 10:18:06 PM
ask them to waive the service fee
+1. They waived it after I told them it was not changeable online.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on August 07, 2019, 10:32:36 PM
My flight is available to book online, but after I input passenger name and contact info it won't let press "continue", tried refreshing multiple times, anyone had this issue?
Yes. I suspect it was my filter. I had a relative do the booking 2 different times when I had this issue.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: gubevo18 on August 07, 2019, 10:35:02 PM
Yes
had that a bunch of times when trying to book on chrome. Switched browsers to Microsoft edge and it worked just fine.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: YesThatsMe on August 07, 2019, 10:40:58 PM
Think it was Gentech. I texted Qantas and booked. How long does it usually take for ticketing?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chinagel on August 07, 2019, 11:37:32 PM
Think it was Gentech. I texted Qantas and booked. How long does it usually take for ticketing?
I also have gentech... It's not the only site that I've had these issues with.
Depends if there's an infant. If not, Should be a couple hours.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: YesThatsMe on August 08, 2019, 07:58:33 AM
I also have gentech... It's not the only site that I've had these issues with.
Depends if there's an infant. If not, Should be a couple hours.

Ticketed, thanks!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: jack on August 08, 2019, 05:11:33 PM
Anyone that can give me any ideas would greatly appreciate it.
Booked a ticket for a family member qantas points on elal and they missed the flight. (Yeah uh huh!!)  Elal is telling them they need to go through qantas to rebook - is that a fact?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on August 08, 2019, 07:02:24 PM
I booked a few weeks ago 9 seats thru qantas for elal flight Thursday 1pm in December and I just got an email saying that the ticket was changed to the 8pm flight which arrives 1:20pm in Israel.

Did anyone have a similar experience?
Any advice is appreciated!
BUMP

Btw I just did a search JFK-TLV and I did find ELAL  Availability
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on August 08, 2019, 07:17:32 PM
Direct?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Yoel on August 08, 2019, 07:30:13 PM
its back, im seeing flights jfk-tlv
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: elya on August 08, 2019, 07:31:49 PM
Direct NYC-TLV is showing now.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on August 08, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Direct NYC-TLV is showing now.

Direct?
Yes
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on August 08, 2019, 07:41:16 PM
Yes
Dates?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on August 08, 2019, 07:42:16 PM
Dates?
i sew TLV-JFK Dec 18 2019
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on August 08, 2019, 07:42:49 PM
Thereís probably more
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: elya on August 08, 2019, 07:43:34 PM
See attached.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on August 08, 2019, 07:54:19 PM
Hold off with the excitement. Many dates not showing ex-NYC, and so far no reports ex-TLV
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: elya on August 08, 2019, 07:56:03 PM
and so far no reports ex-TLV
-1
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on August 08, 2019, 07:56:54 PM
Seems like ex-EWR is fixed but not ex-JFK.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on August 08, 2019, 07:59:39 PM
They have the same availability that they had over the phone/SMS, which is way less of what ELAL has on their website.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on August 08, 2019, 08:01:14 PM
Seems like ex-EWR is fixed but not ex-JFK.
Not quite. Seems random.
Aug 15 has P class ex-EWR. Nothing showing on QF
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on August 08, 2019, 08:03:40 PM
Did LY join the of airlines of "expanded award space" for their own members... :'(?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: avrohomgelb on August 08, 2019, 08:06:59 PM
Newark and JFK to TLV now bookable online
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ah giten on August 08, 2019, 08:13:24 PM
finally some good news here b"h.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on August 08, 2019, 08:14:13 PM
Seems like ex-EWR is fixed but not ex-JFK.
Here you have both. Just seems like they're showing much less availability than there actually is.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on August 08, 2019, 08:17:31 PM
Seems like ex-EWR is fixed but not ex-JFK.
i see TLV-JFK
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Denverite on August 08, 2019, 09:28:11 PM
When I was looking a couple weeks ago, it seemed like it was only showing the mid-day flights and night-time Newark flight with the old biz seats.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Solma on August 09, 2019, 11:15:02 AM
Here you have both. Just seems like they're showing much less availability than there actually is.

+1. it's fixed, but showing much less availability then what LY has.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bmw on August 16, 2019, 05:57:41 PM
there is available seats, however it seems they have officially pulled the night flights out of tlv from the system [also by phone not], and possibly the night flights out of nyc also.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bmw on August 16, 2019, 06:41:55 PM
 and yes i did get nyc - tlv ticketed, email came a few minutes after booking with ticket number, business one way, premium the other, but as mentioned only the day flights
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on August 17, 2019, 07:13:36 PM
there is available seats, however it seems they have officially pulled the night flights out of tlv from the system [also by phone not], and possibly the night flights out of nyc also.
Plenty day flights that GDS shows P class, not either showing up. If only we can get the truth about what's really going on with the NYC routes....
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on August 17, 2019, 09:53:31 PM
Plenty day flights that GDS shows P class, not either showing up. If only we can get the truth about what's really going on with the NYC routes....
CMIIW, P class can be revenue.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on August 17, 2019, 09:58:34 PM
CMIIW, P class can be revenue.
It's both revenue and award.
The way I can easily see if I'm getting accurate results on QF is by looking for P class, as that's the only award we can still see in GDS.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on August 17, 2019, 10:00:12 PM
Can QF book hidden inventory via SMS still?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: elya on August 17, 2019, 10:06:58 PM
Can QF book hidden inventory via SMS still?
Not what you don't see online.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on August 17, 2019, 10:12:09 PM
Has anyone spotted ANY non-stop availability to NYC past December via QF?
I searched many dates (that had P available) between Dec and Feb and found nothing at all.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on August 17, 2019, 10:18:57 PM
Has anyone spotted ANY non-stop availability to NYC past December via QF?
I searched many dates (that had P available) between Dec and Feb and found nothing at all.
I booked EWR-TLV in January.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bmw on August 18, 2019, 01:00:45 AM
i booked june. i think its another lesson learned that its never a good idea to transfer points to a airline if no short term redemption plans. i imagine lots of people transferred large amounts during last promo [i bh have nearly burned through the 1.5 million i transferred].
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on August 18, 2019, 01:15:44 AM
i booked june. i think its another lesson learned that its never a good idea to transfer points to a airline if no short term redemption plans. i imagine lots of people transferred large amounts during last promo [i bh have nearly burned through the 1.5 million i transferred].
Nice, for self or others?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bmw on August 18, 2019, 08:33:41 AM
both [mainly family members]
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: MFE on August 18, 2019, 08:53:14 PM
there is available seats, however it seems they have officially pulled the night flights out of tlv from the system [also by phone not], and possibly the night flights out of nyc also.
do the day flights or any flight that shows up on qantas.com have the same amount of seats and the same amount of classes available?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on August 19, 2019, 11:33:17 AM
Aug 21 Flight 4 - the lower deck business is available for $500 seat fee for economy tickets. Business tickets can only select seats on the upper level

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Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Davidp on August 19, 2019, 11:45:59 AM
Just cancelled 3 PE seats EWR-JFK Oct. 6th if anyone wants to grab them. 2 left
LY4 1:00 PM
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Hjay on August 20, 2019, 06:24:37 AM
Just booked flight for tonight with infant. Didnít get any request for apis. How do I know if Iím ticketed?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on August 20, 2019, 06:49:31 AM
Just booked flight for tonight with infant. Didnít get any request for apis. How do I know if Iím ticketed?
Look for ticket numbers on El Al website
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Hjay on August 20, 2019, 07:04:57 AM
Look for ticket numbers on El Al website

Found it I guess that means Iím good?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: JACKBLUE on August 20, 2019, 08:40:25 AM
Found it I guess that means Iím good?
correct.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: GLUSHTYGOONKY on August 22, 2019, 03:47:38 PM
Dan I think it's time for a conference call with qf and ly bosses
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mocool on August 23, 2019, 01:51:36 PM
Elal cancelled  flight ly007 on 09/11 first elal confirmed the earlier midnight flight on the 11th. This didnít work for me and after lots of phone calls, many (like 10) hours on hold finally got Qantas to rebook on the flight on the 12th in revenue (z) class. So it is doable  but a lot of frustrating runarounds.

Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on August 23, 2019, 05:38:57 PM
Elal cancelled  flight ly007 on 09/11 first elal confirmed the earlier midnight flight on the 11th. This didnít work for me and after lots of phone calls, many (like 10) hours on hold finally got Qantas to rebook on the flight on the 12th in revenue (z) class. So it is doable  but a lot of frustrating runarounds.
Did Qantas reissue the ticket for z?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mocool on August 25, 2019, 12:28:16 AM
Yes after much of huca
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Abey on August 27, 2019, 02:24:09 PM
from QF website "Our Frequent Flyer system is temporarily unavailable, and you'll be unable to log in to make an International Classic Reward - Flight booking using Qantas Points at this time. Please try again later."
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: jss223 on August 28, 2019, 11:03:06 AM
Anyone know whether it's possible to select seats when booking an El Al flight with Qantas points? On both Qantas and El Al sites it's not showing a way to do seat selection.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on August 28, 2019, 02:47:48 PM
Anyone know whether it's possible to select seats when booking an El Al flight with Qantas points? On both Qantas and El Al sites it's not showing a way to do seat selection.
you need to call slap to select seats
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shimino1 on August 29, 2019, 07:00:36 AM
you need to call slap to select seats
New method for when HUCA doesn't work?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on August 29, 2019, 07:15:20 AM
Lol I guess it was auto corrected. Should read LY
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bachhere on August 29, 2019, 02:24:45 PM
I am looking for 4 seats in Business Class.
If I see 3, does it make sense to book, and hope that they open 1 more in the next few months, or they wouldn't open that many award seats, even in the long run?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: hvaces42 on August 29, 2019, 02:28:33 PM
you need to call slap to select seats
Called today to book seat, other than long hold time was painless experience.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: hvaces42 on August 29, 2019, 02:29:45 PM
I am looking for 4 seats in Business Class.
If I see 3, does it make sense to book, and hope that they open 1 more in the next few months, or they wouldn't open that many award seats, even in the long run?
I would grab what you can now and worst case it will cost you 6k per to cancel if you are so dead set on getting the 4th seat and it doesnt open. Not often that you will find that many seats open at once.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on August 29, 2019, 02:30:07 PM
I am looking for 4 seats in Business Class.
If I see 3, does it make sense to book, and hope that they open 1 more in the next few months, or they wouldn't open that many award seats, even in the long run?
It makes sense but nothing is guaranteed
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Davidp on August 29, 2019, 03:10:56 PM
I am looking for 4 seats in Business Class.
If I see 3, does it make sense to book, and hope that they open 1 more in the next few months, or they wouldn't open that many award seats, even in the long run?
In a similar position. ďNeededĒ 6 business seats, there were only 4. I booked all 4, plus 2 Premium. So far, 1 more biz opened up and I grabbed it. Still waiting on the last one... whenís flight? How full is business now?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bachhere on August 29, 2019, 04:34:01 PM
In a similar position. ďNeededĒ 6 business seats, there were only 4. I booked all 4, plus 2 Premium. So far, 1 more biz opened up and I grabbed it. Still waiting on the last one... whenís flight? How full is business now?

Flight is in May, there are no Sold/Booked seats in Business (1 seat is just blocked off).
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: brodes18 on August 29, 2019, 11:34:35 PM
you need to call slap to select seats

You can also use Whatsapp to request (Hebrew only). I used Google translate to use it since I didn't want the long hold times.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ah giten on September 02, 2019, 02:23:53 PM
Called today to book seat, other than long hold time was painless experience.
called who? elal or Qf?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on September 02, 2019, 02:30:41 PM
called who? elal or Qf?
ElAl.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: hvaces42 on September 02, 2019, 10:35:45 PM
ElAl.
Correct.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ah giten on September 03, 2019, 12:31:35 AM
Correct.
they wanted to charge me, tried 3 times.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: avrohomgelb on September 03, 2019, 01:13:16 PM
Anyone know whether it's possible to select seats when booking an El Al flight with Qantas points? On both Qantas and El Al sites it's not showing a way to do seat selection.
Elal emails Itinerary 2 days before flight, u can change seats then. I had a full flight and almost all business seats were open to choose from
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: hvaces42 on September 03, 2019, 02:08:12 PM
they wanted to charge me, tried 3 times.
Y, PE or J?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ah giten on September 03, 2019, 04:18:44 PM
Y, PE or J?
J
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: hvaces42 on September 03, 2019, 07:23:24 PM
J
Surprising
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ah giten on September 03, 2019, 08:16:52 PM
Surprising
Upon asking for supervisor, They said they got strict instruction from above that all QF bookings should be charged a mandatory fee regardless of class.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on September 03, 2019, 08:37:15 PM
Upon asking for supervisor, They said they got strict instruction from above that all QF bookings should be charged a mandatory fee regardless of class.
That's crazy and typical ElAl short-sightedness.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: hvaces42 on September 03, 2019, 09:10:55 PM
Upon asking for supervisor, They said they got strict instruction from above that all QF bookings should be charged a mandatory fee regardless of class.
which office? I called US Customer Service
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on September 03, 2019, 09:25:30 PM
Anyone targeted in the past for the transfer bonus to Qantas, but not get an email this time?
Any way to check if targeted?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on September 03, 2019, 11:53:26 PM
Anyone targeted in the past for the transfer bonus to Qantas, but not get an email this time?
Any way to check if targeted?

I didn't receive any bonus e-mail and was targeted (and used) in the past.  Care to share the details?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: GLUSHTYGOONKY on September 04, 2019, 01:24:24 AM
If there's points reward availability  on elal site does SMS or calling Qantas work to book the ticket which isn't showing up on their site?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Baglach on September 04, 2019, 02:44:03 AM
If there's points reward availability  on elal site does SMS or calling Qantas work to book the ticket which isn't showing up on their site?
No, only what's available will work
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on September 04, 2019, 06:57:24 AM
I didn't receive any bonus e-mail and was targeted (and used) in the past.  Care to share the details?

Check DDMS
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Yeah on September 04, 2019, 11:26:44 AM
Am I the only user that doesn't see any jfk-tlv nonstop availability on any dates? I only see tlv-jfk.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ah giten on September 04, 2019, 05:32:29 PM
which office? I called US Customer Service
Same us CS
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on September 04, 2019, 07:17:11 PM
Israel office reps are generally much nicer
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ah giten on September 04, 2019, 07:33:05 PM
Israel office reps are generally much nicer
It's between bad and worse...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on September 04, 2019, 07:39:21 PM
It's between bad and worse...
Not really. IL phone reps are pretty decent. Probably from the only airlines in the world, where every rep is intelligent and a citizen of the Country of the airline... (If the Hebrew isn't an issue for you) They don't forward your call to the Philippines
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on September 04, 2019, 07:42:14 PM
Not really. IL phone reps are pretty decent. Probably from the only airlines in the world, where every rep is intelligent and a citizen of the Country of the airline... (If the Hebrew isn't an issue for you) They don't forward your call to the Philippines
Most of them speak English.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ah giten on September 04, 2019, 08:12:22 PM
True in this regard, but I always feel that they wanna end the phone call and I'm a PITA for them...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: iluv2travel on September 05, 2019, 01:01:32 AM
Upon asking for supervisor, They said they got strict instruction from above that all QF bookings should be charged a mandatory fee regardless of class.

Wow, totally nuts. However must be something new because I was able to select for J and PE a few weeks ago and they never mentioned a fee.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on September 05, 2019, 02:49:03 AM
Wow, totally nuts. However must be something new because I was able to select for J and PE a few weeks ago and they never mentioned a fee.
just booked a business seat for free   through Israel customer service
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: TravelSER on September 05, 2019, 06:59:12 AM
just booked a business seat for free   through Israel customer service
Same here
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Baglach on September 05, 2019, 07:03:47 AM
Upon asking for supervisor, They said they got strict instruction from above that all QF bookings should be charged a mandatory fee regardless of class.
Sounds like fake news
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on September 05, 2019, 08:02:14 AM
Sounds like fake news
US cs line doesn't have an issue with that...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on September 05, 2019, 01:14:34 PM
PSA: QF issued award tickets must be booked & issued in X/P/E class respectively. If your flight gets canceled and you are not happy with the flight you have been rebooked to, and you call yelling/screaming/whining/crying and QF rebooks you in a revenue bucket, you might be denied boarding
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on September 05, 2019, 01:21:44 PM
PSA: QF issued award tickets must be booked & issued in X/P/E class respectively. If your flight gets canceled and you are not happy with the flight you have been rebooked to, and you call yelling/screaming/whining/crying and QF rebooks you in a revenue bucket, you might be denied boarding
Any dp's?

Why can't QF book a revenue for pax?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on September 05, 2019, 03:20:15 PM
PSA: QF issued award tickets must be booked & issued in X/P/E class respectively. If your flight gets canceled and you are not happy with the flight you have been rebooked to, and you call yelling/screaming/whining/crying and QF rebooks you in a revenue bucket, you might be denied boarding
qantas canceled my booking by mistake and itís not available online anymore and just hung up with them and they said theyíll try to find a way to robook me.

Anything to be scared of?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: arubarick on September 06, 2019, 10:07:18 AM
Have flights from TLV-JFK/EWR disappeared again from QF? I was able to book August flights using points from JFK-TLV but now trying to book return flights late august and getting only a stop in Hong Kong? Is it because they're forcing it to go through the British site?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ebamrap on September 07, 2019, 11:00:37 PM
This is off topic but I am going to Israel in October and will be earning awards points for my flights.  Other than Matmid are there any other awards programs I could credit the earned points.
Thanks Ed
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: BarryLincoln on September 07, 2019, 11:07:08 PM
This is off topic but I am going to Israel in October and will be earning awards points for my flights.  Other than Matmid are there any other awards programs I could credit the earned points.
Thanks Ed
Alaska Mileage Plan is a decent option...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ebamrap on September 07, 2019, 11:14:18 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on September 07, 2019, 11:39:16 PM
Have flights from TLV-JFK/EWR disappeared again from QF? I was able to book August flights using points from JFK-TLV but now trying to book return flights late august and getting only a stop in Hong Kong? Is it because they're forcing it to go through the British site?

No, you can still find them. A date I need TLV-NY in October even has 2 flights available with all 3 classes bookable.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Ekay on September 08, 2019, 12:33:10 AM
No, you can still find them. A date I need TLV-NY in October even has 2 flights available with all 3 classes bookable.
All on QF website?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on September 08, 2019, 05:59:42 AM
All on QF website?
Yup same here  booked on oct 16 had availibility in all classes
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: US on September 08, 2019, 07:54:32 AM
No, you can still find them. A date I need TLV-NY in October even has 2 flights available with all 3 classes bookable.
What date in Oct.?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on September 08, 2019, 08:03:49 AM
What date in Oct.?
right before and right after sukkos makes sense that they dont have award available
Title: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: US on September 08, 2019, 08:12:01 AM
right before and right after sukkos makes sense that they dont have award available
Yuyu.
I need Oct. 6 TLV-JFK
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on September 08, 2019, 08:19:21 AM
Yup same here  booked on oct 16 had availibility in all classes

Haha that's the exact date I also looked at, but I ended up booking something else via FB instead... being based in TLV, I'd rather save the QF points for trips to Europe on El Al as needed.

BTW - The Delta One TLV-JFK on October 16-17 is phantom, so don't transfer in looking to book that. The econ Delta for 29K is actual though.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: iluv2travel on September 08, 2019, 11:08:31 AM
BTW - The Delta One TLV-JFK on October 16-17 is phantom, so don't transfer in looking to book that. The econ Delta for 29K is actual though.

How can you tell its phantom?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on September 08, 2019, 05:23:22 PM
How can you tell its phantom?

I tried booking and it failed. I then called up and the reps said Delta is very problematic and most biz options with them are phantom.  I ended up booking a KLM flight, the saving grace being that I got biz on a 747 upper deck and will be able to check that off my list.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on September 08, 2019, 05:24:16 PM
I tried booking and it failed. I then called up and the reps said Delta is very problematic and most biz options with them are phantom.  I ended up booking a KLM flight, the saving grace being that I got biz on a 747 upper deck and will be able to check that off my list.
Combi?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: moe8555 on September 08, 2019, 11:31:03 PM
Combi?

Yes indeed!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on September 09, 2019, 01:33:33 AM
Yes indeed!
Wrong thread, but amazing!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: arubarick on September 09, 2019, 09:22:06 AM
No, you can still find them. A date I need TLV-NY in October even has 2 flights available with all 3 classes bookable.
Yes you are correct, it's just the dates i was looking at had no awards flights. I found days prior and post that had which i can book. However, 2 weeks ago when i ordered to flight to TLV for 6 tickets they charged me total $57.60, now that QF forces the British site it's trying to charge me £232.20 for my return flight which sucks. Waiting for text message response.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ah giten on September 09, 2019, 12:01:18 PM
Return is simply more taxes, nothing to do with the British site.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Muhammad on September 09, 2019, 12:42:08 PM
Yes you are correct, it's just the dates i was looking at had no awards flights. I found days prior and post that had which i can book. However, 2 weeks ago when i ordered to flight to TLV for 6 tickets they charged me total $57.60, now that QF forces the British site it's trying to charge me £232.20 for my return flight which sucks. Waiting for text message response.
the taxes for the return are more...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on September 15, 2019, 10:41:27 AM
Anyone else get targeted for the transfer bonus? Want to make a reservation before the devaluation this week...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: theyankel on September 15, 2019, 11:21:52 AM
Yes indeed!
Whats combi
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on September 15, 2019, 11:40:49 PM
Whats combi
A specific configuration of KLMs 747
Try to Google it
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on September 17, 2019, 10:09:52 PM
Ex-USA still pricing at the old rates. Apparently this is not Australian time across the board, but according to the point-of-sale.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: wakimike on September 17, 2019, 10:55:25 PM
New to Qantas. You can now search from ewr to tlv instead of having to put in Jfk for ewr flights
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: helpyouamdme on September 18, 2019, 09:53:40 AM
New to Qantas. You can now search from ewr to tlv instead of having to put in Jfk for ewr flights
Old news
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on September 18, 2019, 10:15:15 AM
planning on putting the SMS option on DDMS?
Hopefully not
Other than being selfish that you happen to know about it, why not?
It's a published help number on Qantas's website. And the cities that aren't bookable are clearly just a bug as a good agent can book them just fine.
Besides for availability it shouldn't mess anything up, quite the contrary maybe some more agents will learn how to do it.
Hate to have been so wrong.
RIP QF.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on September 18, 2019, 11:06:53 AM
Hate to have been so wrong.
RIP QF.
You're in quite a mood lately. What does SMS booking have to do with tech issues affecting the ability of booking certain LY flights?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on September 18, 2019, 11:07:55 AM
You're in quite a mood lately. What does SMS booking have to do with tech issues affecting the ability of booking certain LY flights?
It doesn't. Unrelated, have you tried QF text lately?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on September 18, 2019, 12:16:11 PM
It doesn't. Unrelated, have you tried QF text lately?
No. Please be generous when you post so we can follow the story and not have to piece together two unrelated stories. :)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on September 23, 2019, 05:42:39 PM
Does anyone know how to override the max Of 9 pax per reservation?
I have 9 + infant
Can I book 9 and then add the infant by chat?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on September 23, 2019, 05:46:25 PM
Does anyone know how to override the max Of 9 pax per reservation?
I have 9 + infant
Can I book 9 and then add the infant by chat?
do 8 plus infant and one alone
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on September 23, 2019, 06:29:32 PM
do 8 plus infant and one alone
i guess thatís Iíll have to do if no way around
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ar on September 23, 2019, 07:37:09 PM
i guess thatís Iíll have to do if no way around

Do 1 + infant

And 8 in another reservation.

Infant requires you to input everyone's DOB and passports in order to be ticketed. So it's better to put infant with 1 person than with 8
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on September 23, 2019, 07:46:55 PM
Do 1 + infant

And 8 in another reservation.

Infant requires you to input everyone's DOB and passports in order to be ticketed. So it's better to put infant with 1 person than with 8
thats actually what I was thinking, but whoever goes with the infant gets more legroom so Iíd rather put 8 +infant
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ib3 on September 23, 2019, 09:45:52 PM


whoever goes with the infant gets more legroom so Iíd rather put 8 +infant

Better seats? All 8 passengers?




Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: elya on September 24, 2019, 10:44:57 AM
You're in quite a mood lately. What does SMS booking have to do with tech issues affecting the ability of booking certain LY flights?
Tech issues?!? I wish..
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on September 24, 2019, 10:50:06 AM

Better seats? All 8 passengers?
doubtful
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on September 24, 2019, 11:14:43 AM

Better seats? All 8 passengers?
when I booked 3 +infant few weeks ago all 3 got bulkhead
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on September 24, 2019, 11:20:34 AM
when I booked 3 +infant few weeks ago all 3 got bulkhead
3 is different than 8
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on September 24, 2019, 11:23:34 AM
3 is different than 8
i know but doesnít hurt to try
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ar on September 24, 2019, 12:54:32 PM
i know but doesnít hurt to try

3 got bulkhead because the bulkhead seats 3. not 8

Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: flyingace on September 24, 2019, 12:57:44 PM
Also no one else needed a bassinet. I have had confirmed bulkhead seats with a baby where one adult had to move due to another bassinet request.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: GLUSHTYGOONKY on September 24, 2019, 03:31:47 PM
True story
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dr Moose on October 02, 2019, 02:20:35 PM
Does texting still work to book flights, or need to call? I see flights on here (https://www.elal.com/rbddataclients), which is obviously not shown on QF.com, wondering what's best way to book.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: elya on October 02, 2019, 02:27:16 PM
Does texting still work to book flights, or need to call? I see flights on here (https://www.elal.com/rbddataclients), which is obviously not shown on QF.com, wondering what's best way to book.
If not showing online, texting or calling will not help. LY has been severely restricting the amount of space they are releasing to QF.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on October 02, 2019, 03:01:10 PM
Does texting still work to book flights, or need to call? I see flights on here (https://www.elal.com/rbddataclients), which is obviously not shown on QF.com, wondering what's best way to book.
What dates are you looking for?  if your looking for sukkos then its sold out...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: elya on October 02, 2019, 03:04:42 PM
What dates are you looking for?  if your looking for sukkos then its sold out...
Look at his post, the flight he wants is showing available with LY.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dr Moose on October 03, 2019, 12:26:55 AM
With a little bit of flexibility, I actually found flights for roughly the dates I was looking for.

If I need to make any changes to a different date, is it easier to cancel/rebook or call/text to have them change for me?

Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: iluv2travel on October 03, 2019, 11:41:37 PM
With a little bit of flexibility, I actually found flights for roughly the dates I was looking for.

If I need to make any changes to a different date, is it easier to cancel/rebook or call/text to have them change for me?

Cancel will cost you 6k miles, changing is 5k. You might be able to change it yuh yourself online in your account.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on October 04, 2019, 10:36:58 AM
I want to change a qantas flight - elal said I have to do it with Qantas as its a qantas ticket. 

Elal also switched my flight for 3 hours later (10pm until 1 am next morning) - not the reason I want to change it (i want to change the flight to 3 hours earlier) but maybe this can help?.

For a couple reasons I cant do this through Qantas - any ideas for getting Elal to change the ticket.

Flight is in a few months.

TIA



Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Denverite on October 04, 2019, 03:13:52 PM
I want to change a qantas flight - elal said I have to do it with Qantas as its a qantas ticket. 

Elal also switched my flight for 3 hours later (10pm until 1 am next morning) - not the reason I want to change it (i want to change the flight to 3 hours earlier) but maybe this can help?.

For a couple reasons I cant do this through Qantas - any ideas for getting Elal to change the ticket.

Flight is in a few months.

TIA


Pretty sure all changes always have to go through the issuing airline.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on October 07, 2019, 08:24:28 PM
Pretty sure all changes always have to go through the issuing airline.

Apologies, Its Elal metal booked using Qantas Points...

Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: iluv2travel on October 08, 2019, 12:37:00 AM
Apologies, Its Elal metal booked using Qantas Points...

Right so it's as @Denverite said, you need to go through the issuing airline which is Qantas because you used their points.

Call or SMS them.

For a couple reasons I cant do this through Qantas

Why not?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on October 08, 2019, 12:55:20 AM
Right so it's as @Denverite said, you need to go through the issuing airline which is Qantas because you used their points.

Call or SMS them.

Why not?

Brokered?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on October 24, 2019, 02:41:46 PM
can I cancel or change an elal reward ticket booked through elal?
wrong thread
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ywoosh on October 25, 2019, 01:53:40 PM
I found two open business tickets for a date in December on El Al classic reward search function. I dont see it on Quantas and called Qauntas and they dont see them either. Any way to go about this?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mochjas on October 25, 2019, 01:54:29 PM
I found two open business tickets for a date in December on El Al classic reward search function. I dont see it on Quantas and called Qauntas and they dont see them either. Any way to go about this?
no
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on October 25, 2019, 01:56:00 PM
I found two open business tickets for a date in December on El Al classic reward search function. I dont see it on Quantas and called Qauntas and they dont see them either. Any way to go about this?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/bad-el-als-blocking-business-class-award-space-partner-airlines/
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: iluv2travel on October 26, 2019, 09:23:17 PM
Elal changed the departure time of my flight by 1 hour earlier. As it was the flight was leaving a little earlier than I wanted but now it's for sure too early. Can I get them to rebook us on a different flight because they changed the time?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on October 26, 2019, 09:46:11 PM
Elal changed the departure time of my flight by 1 hour earlier. As it was the flight was leaving a little earlier than I wanted but now it's for sure too early. Can I get them to rebook us on a different flight because they changed the time?
you have to call Qantas and they can only rebook if they have available award seats on the flight you want, although you can cancel for free
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on October 26, 2019, 10:05:41 PM
Brokered?
no a transfer of points into my account looked shady to qantas so they flagged it and locked account
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: DansDealsLover on October 27, 2019, 06:35:11 PM
NT: Iím new to Quantas. I searched the thread and couldnít find the answer to my question. I found outbound EWR to TOV on the date I need in November on Elal classic reward (37,800 points). How long does it take for MR transfers to Quantas? I donít want to lose this availability (or the United option currently available for the return)
A quick reply with personal experience will be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bamo on October 27, 2019, 06:41:30 PM
Usually instant
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: DansDealsLover on October 27, 2019, 06:42:27 PM
Usually instant
Is this your personal experience?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on October 27, 2019, 06:42:50 PM
NT: Iím new to Quantas. I searched the thread and couldnít find the answer to my question. I found outbound EWR to TOV on the date I need in November on Elal classic reward (37,800 points). How long does it take for MR transfers to Quantas? I donít want to lose this availability (or the United option currently available for the return)
A quick reply with personal experience will be greatly appreciated!
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/mileage-expiration-guide-for-38-loyalty-programs-how-to-keep-your-points-from-expiring-and-how-to-bring-them-back-to-life-after-theyve-expired/
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: DansDealsLover on October 27, 2019, 06:47:39 PM
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/mileage-expiration-guide-for-38-loyalty-programs-how-to-keep-your-points-from-expiring-and-how-to-bring-them-back-to-life-after-theyve-expired/
Awesome post as always. Was still in my reading list 😄
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: bamo on October 27, 2019, 06:56:25 PM
Is this your personal experience?
Yes
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: flyingace on October 29, 2019, 12:42:29 PM
Elal emails Itinerary 2 days before flight, u can change seats then. I had a full flight and almost all business seats were open to choose from
I did not get email for flights tomorrow but Elal told me Qantas can book seats without any charges. They were able to do so, but don't know how far out they can do it.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: iluv2travel on October 29, 2019, 05:11:15 PM
I did not get email for flights tomorrow but Elal told me Qantas can book seats without any charges. They were able to do so, but don't know how far out they can do it.

So you can call or SMS Qantas to select seats on Elal flights?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: avrohomgelb on October 29, 2019, 05:31:48 PM
So you can call or SMS Qantas to select seats on Elal flights?
I tried that, didn't work. IME only through elal
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: flyingace on October 29, 2019, 09:01:31 PM
So you can call or SMS Qantas to select seats on Elal flights?
Yes, as per Elal's NY office today. But my flight is tomorrow, maybe that's why they were able to get the seats. Elal wanted to charge me $20.00 per passenger, and the CS rep told me that Qantas should be able to do it for free.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: chff on October 29, 2019, 10:41:54 PM
Yes, as per Elal's NY office today. But my flight is tomorrow, maybe that's why they were able to get the seats. Elal wanted to charge me $20.00 per passenger, and the CS rep told me that Qantas should be able to do it for free.
If your flight is tomorrow then do online check-in
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: ah giten on October 30, 2019, 01:00:48 AM
Yes, as per Elal's NY office today. But my flight is tomorrow, maybe that's why they were able to get the seats. Elal wanted to charge me $20.00 per passenger, and the CS rep told me that Qantas should be able to do it for free.
Had that a while ago, HUCA is the way to go.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: flyingace on October 30, 2019, 08:43:51 AM
Had that a while ago, HUCA is the way to go.
If your flight is tomorrow then do online check-in
Easier to message Qantas than HUCA and I wanted to get seats before online check-in opened up. Thanks for the DP's, though.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 03, 2019, 07:54:34 AM
Does ELAL's availability tool some time show flights as available, but not actually available when trying to book with Qantas? Several dates I am looking at show available with elal's tool but do not show up on Qantas or expert flyer
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: israshot on November 03, 2019, 07:56:35 AM
Does ELAL's availability tool some time show flights as available, but not actually available when trying to book with Qantas? Several dates I am looking at show available with elal's tool but do not show up on Qantas or expert flyer
Yes, they don't share anymore the same availability.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 03, 2019, 07:58:20 AM
Yes, they don't share anymore the same availability.

So whats the best way to search for availability? just day by day on Qantas?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: israshot on November 03, 2019, 07:59:39 AM
So whats the best way to search for availability? just day by day on Qantas?
Yes, or EF.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on November 03, 2019, 08:23:03 AM
Does ELAL's availability tool some time show flights as available, but not actually available when trying to book with Qantas? Several dates I am looking at show available with elal's tool but do not show up on Qantas or expert flyer
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/bad-el-als-blocking-business-class-award-space-partner-airlines/
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: KSMH on November 03, 2019, 08:26:20 AM
Yes, or EF.
I've seen ElAL not matching Qantas, even though some say the scrape.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on November 03, 2019, 09:39:02 AM
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/bad-el-als-blocking-business-class-award-space-partner-airlines/
Did anyone from ELAL ever respond to you, or they just stopped speaking to you?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on November 03, 2019, 09:40:14 AM
They stopped responding to me. Shocking, I know.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on November 03, 2019, 09:40:54 AM
They stopped responding to me. Shocking I know.
:(
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 03, 2019, 09:57:48 AM
Looks like the only thing available from TLV-JFK is some Tuesday's or Weds 1:30PM or 4:45PM. No other days or flights
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on November 03, 2019, 10:26:33 AM
Other days from other cities.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 03, 2019, 10:28:17 AM
Other days from other cities.

Meaning a hidden city?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 03, 2019, 11:21:56 AM
Ive checked the entire summer. TLV-NYC is only available Tuesday and Weds on LY7 and LY11
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mrprez27 on November 03, 2019, 04:57:40 PM
They stopped responding to me. Shocking, I know.

Why not publicly call them out on it.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: elya on November 03, 2019, 07:15:54 PM
Why not publicly call them out on it.
Ummm. He did.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 03, 2019, 08:44:08 PM
Other days from other cities.

Clarification?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Denverite on November 04, 2019, 05:37:56 PM
Ive checked the entire summer. TLV-NYC is only available Tuesday and Weds on LY7 and LY11

I booked LY26, 9PM overnight flight from Newark for a Sunday next June in J, although I realized after booking that it's their old 777 flight without updated business class.  I also booked a return on a LY7 on a Thursday to JFK, in July, with the new J product.

Are they blocking or could it be that with the many millions of points transferred over to Qantas with all the AMEX and Cap One bonuses, that seats got snapped up.  Have you checked the calendar for the days that have just opened up on the calendar?  Are those also only showing two flights and only Tuesday and Wednesdays.  I'm not trying to be obnoxious but I'm just asking because maybe the second they open, they flights are getting snapped up (or I could also be naive)? :)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 04, 2019, 06:00:57 PM
I booked LY26, 9PM overnight flight from Newark for a Sunday next June in J, although I realized after booking that it's their old 777 flight without updated business class.  I also booked a return on a LY7 on a Thursday to JFK, in July, with the new J product.

Are they blocking or could it be that with the many millions of points transferred over to Qantas with all the AMEX and Cap One bonuses, that seats got snapped up.  Have you checked the calendar for the days that have just opened up on the calendar?  Are those also only showing two flights and only Tuesday and Wednesdays.  I'm not trying to be obnoxious but I'm just asking because maybe the second they open, they flights are getting snapped up (or I could also be naive)? :)

When did you book those flights? ELAL shows availabilty for other days, but when I go to Qantas and expertflyer, the only days that are available are Tues and Weds for TLV-JFK. According to @Dan they are being blocked.
HE mentioned something about other cities, but still waiting on @Dan's clarification
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2019, 06:02:23 PM
Other days from other cities.
YYZ-TLV, etc.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 04, 2019, 06:08:58 PM
YYZ-TLV, etc.

Correct. Though that doesnt help someone who needs TLV-JFK
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2019, 06:10:54 PM
Correct. Though that doesnt help someone who needs TLV-JFK
Book a cheap ticket from YYZ-NYC.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: israshot on November 04, 2019, 06:11:59 PM
Book a cheap ticket from YYZ-NYC.
You'd have to check-in luggage too. Not very convenient.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 04, 2019, 06:15:00 PM
Book a cheap ticket from YYZ-NYC.

I am only seeing Tuesday availability on that route YYZ-NYC

Not sure how @Denverite was able to book Thursday and Sunday flights. Maybe it was before they started blocking
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2019, 06:22:12 PM
You'd have to check-in luggage too. Not very convenient.
LY doesn't interline bags?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: israshot on November 04, 2019, 06:23:15 PM
LY doesn't interline bags?
Sure when it's on the same PNR. Why would they if it's 2 separate tickets?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2019, 06:24:13 PM
Sure when it's on the same PNR. Why would they if it's 2 separate tickets?
Many airlines will do that.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 04, 2019, 06:34:03 PM
LY doesn't interline bags?
They do. If you're doing a layover you can book from NYC on QF too.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2019, 07:14:31 PM
They do. If you're doing a layover you can book from NYC on QF too.
+YQ
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 04, 2019, 07:19:37 PM
+YQ
I meant AA+LY
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 04, 2019, 07:19:58 PM
YYZ-TLV, etc.

Any other cities you recommend looking into? Such a shame that ELAL shows availability on Sundays, but its blocked for Qantas
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2019, 07:20:01 PM
I meant AA+LY
AA J?
Good luck!
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2019, 07:20:30 PM
Any other cities you recommend looking into? Such a shame that ELAL shows availability on Sundays, but its blocked for Qantas
Anywhere they fly.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 04, 2019, 07:20:51 PM
AA J?
Good luck!

LOL
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 04, 2019, 07:21:41 PM
Anywhere they fly.

You going to re-establish your communication with ELAL and find out why they are blocking Qantas and if they have any plans to unblock?

Maybe just like they made an award tool just for you, they will do this for you as well ;)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2019, 07:32:59 PM
They have no comment. Full stop.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on November 04, 2019, 07:35:58 PM
Anywhere they fly.
BOS is a convenient alternative to NYC. I found availability to BOS (red-eye) on a flight I needed to NYC. Adding BOS to NYC in domestic F was about $150.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2019, 08:55:51 PM
Is LY now consistently enforcing the $20 services fee for QF tickets? Are there any other tickets subject to this fee?
Is it just LY USA or LY IL also?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zow on November 04, 2019, 09:33:55 PM
LY doesn't interline bags?
Do you think LY will Interline my bags?
LY TLV-YYZ
AC YYZ-BOS (the next morning)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on November 04, 2019, 09:52:04 PM
Is LY now consistently enforcing the $20 services fee for QF tickets? Are there any other tickets subject to this fee?
Is it just LY USA or LY IL also?
Based on many reports I've seen (on WhatsApp etc.), it seems to be just USA. USA CS department is known to be much more crappy than IL.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shapsam on November 04, 2019, 10:04:40 PM
Whatsapp worked for me.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Denverite on November 05, 2019, 11:20:30 AM
I am only seeing Tuesday availability on that route YYZ-NYC

Not sure how @Denverite was able to book Thursday and Sunday flights. Maybe it was before they started blocking

I also am not sure.  There were definitely posts on here then about blocking and stuff not showing on the website (this was when everyone was saying to try to get the booking you see on the El Al site by using Twitter to contact Qantas) so I remember being pleasantly surprised at seeing them and just booking right away.  I did book both of them right when the calendar opened up, so the late June 2020 booking was made in July and then I watched the calendar to book the mid-July return as soon as possible in early August.  I know it's nerdy but I put reminders in my calendar to check the day the schedules open up for different airlines.

I did just now check until the end of the calendar (currently open until Friday Oct. 23, 2020) and I guess they are blocking because they do have availability, but only on Tuesday & Wednesday, not the Thursday that they also just opened up.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on November 05, 2019, 06:59:20 PM
I also am not sure.  There were definitely posts on here then about blocking and stuff not showing on the website (this was when everyone was saying to try to get the booking you see on the El Al site by using Twitter to contact Qantas) so I remember being pleasantly surprised at seeing them and just booking right away.  I did book both of them right when the calendar opened up, so the late June 2020 booking was made in July and then I watched the calendar to book the mid-July return as soon as possible in early August.  I know it's nerdy but I put reminders in my calendar to check the day the schedules open up for different airlines.

I did just now check until the end of the calendar (currently open until Friday Oct. 23, 2020) and I guess they are blocking because they do have availability, but only on Tuesday & Wednesday, not the Thursday that they also just opened up.
Back in July when you booked, they weren't blocking yet.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 05, 2019, 07:20:48 PM
Back in July when you booked, they weren't blocking yet.

+1
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shmooz on November 05, 2019, 11:57:53 PM
There was some report a while ago of elal bumping biz points pax to economy without compensation due to overbooking.
If that would happen, do you have any recourse?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shmooz on November 12, 2019, 01:50:00 PM
LY made some changes to flight and QF is asking me to accept or reject. If I do nothing, would they possibly cancel it?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: rbas on November 12, 2019, 10:09:54 PM
Booked 2 seats in Biz for a June 2020 flight.
Qantas wonít let me select seats and when I called elal they said only qantas can assign a seat ďorĒ they can do it for a $20 fee. Anyone have any advice ?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2019, 10:13:56 PM
Booked 2 seats in Biz for a June 2020 flight.
Qantas wonít let me select seats and when I called elal they said only qantas can assign a seat ďorĒ they can do it for a $20 fee. Anyone have any advice ?
https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-deals/israel-flights/el-al-flash-sale-fly-nonstop-north-america-tel-aviv-just-605-40-4k-chase-points-round-trip/#comment-1432750

Post if it works for you.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on November 13, 2019, 01:40:26 AM
Booked 2 seats in Biz for a June 2020 flight.
Qantas wonít let me select seats and when I called elal they said only qantas can assign a seat ďorĒ they can do it for a $20 fee. Anyone have any advice ?
call israel CS worked for me
Title: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: US on November 13, 2019, 07:02:54 AM
Booked 2 seats in Biz for a June 2020 flight.
Qantas wonít let me select seats and when I called elal they said only qantas can assign a seat ďorĒ they can do it for a $20 fee. Anyone have any advice ?
Tried WhatsApp? had no issue 2 days ago.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on November 13, 2019, 10:09:28 AM
Just called and Booked seats instantly without any fee
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: rbas on November 13, 2019, 10:34:12 AM
@US Whatís the whatsapp number?
@yossig did you call elal or qantas?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: US on November 13, 2019, 10:36:46 AM
@US Whatís the whatsapp number?
@yossig did you call elal or qantas?
+972 53 566 3033
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Dan on November 13, 2019, 10:40:59 AM
@US Whatís the whatsapp number?
@yossig did you call elal or qantas?
Ya know I gave it to you right away...
https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-deals/israel-flights/el-al-flash-sale-fly-nonstop-north-america-tel-aviv-just-605-40-4k-chase-points-round-trip/#comment-1432750

Post if it works for you.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yossig on November 13, 2019, 10:43:08 AM
@US Whatís the whatsapp number?
@yossig did you call elal or qantas?
ELAL
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: rbas on November 13, 2019, 01:11:31 PM
Ya know I gave it to you right away...

Thank You Dan, you are a Mentsch
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: shimino1 on November 17, 2019, 08:01:47 AM
Need to cancel an award I booked 2 hours ago.
Any data points on weather they allow 24 hour free cancellation?
 
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 17, 2019, 08:39:31 AM
Need to cancel an award I booked 2 hours ago.
Any data points on weather they allow 24 hour free cancellation?
they don't
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: TravelSER on November 17, 2019, 08:42:10 AM
Need to cancel an award I booked 2 hours ago.
Any data points on weather they allow 24 hour free cancellation?
They allowed me a free change in the 24H.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: simplicity on November 17, 2019, 02:10:43 PM
any one have info if there is any availability to fly from nyc to tlv from now till dec 15th
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Denverite on November 18, 2019, 03:27:30 PM
https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-deals/israel-flights/el-al-flash-sale-fly-nonstop-north-america-tel-aviv-just-605-40-4k-chase-points-round-trip/#comment-1432750

Post if it works for you.

I just did it for both my Qantas reservations and it worked great so thank you (and I am a techno idiot who doesn't have a Twitter or Facebook account and this is my first time ever using What's App for customer service)!!  The seat assignments were there when I went to re-check the booking on ElAl.com.  Two things to note though:

1.) The digital services desk only operates 8:30am-6:30pm Israel time so when I originally texted last night I got an auto response asking me to be in touch again during service hours.
2.) I wrote everything in English but all their responses were in Hebrew.  If you can't understand you can just paste the Hebrew into google translate.  It wasn't a big deal but just thought I'd let people know.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Denverite on November 18, 2019, 03:50:09 PM
any one have info if there is any availability to fly from nyc to tlv from now till dec 15th

2 Biz seats available on LY28 EWR-TLV (on the Dreamliner) on Monday, Dec. 9th so....YES!  Qantas has a nice flexible date map search feature for your future use when my travel services won't be available to you.  :P

So hevre does this mean they aren't blocking all seats that aren't on a Tuesday, Wednesday?  Or maybe this opened because it's less than a month out? Or just a fluke? I have no clue but thought I'd share.   :)


Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mimb on November 18, 2019, 04:01:42 PM
2 Biz seats available on LY28 EWR-TLV (on the Dreamliner) on Monday, Dec. 9th so....YES!  Qantas has a nice flexible date map search feature for your future use when my travel services won't be available to you.  :P

So hevre does this mean they aren't blocking all seats that aren't on a Tuesday, Wednesday?  Or maybe this opened because it's less than a month out? Or just a fluke? I have no clue but thought I'd share.   :)

The Qantas website shows Elal availability again? Thought it was being blocked
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Denverite on November 18, 2019, 04:11:02 PM
The Qantas website shows Elal availability again? Thought it was being blocked

Yup, other days had economy and Premium economy seats but I specifically just saw those 2 business class seats as well.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on November 18, 2019, 08:43:11 PM
2 Biz seats available on LY28 EWR-TLV (on the Dreamliner) on Monday, Dec. 9th so....YES!  Qantas has a nice flexible date map search feature for your future use when my travel services won't be available to you.  :P

So hevre does this mean they aren't blocking all seats that aren't on a Tuesday, Wednesday?  Or maybe this opened because it's less than a month out? Or just a fluke? I have no clue but thought I'd share.   :)
Quote from DDMS "Newark to Tel Aviv flight 28 is only available with Qantas points on select Mondays and Tuesdays."

And some seasons LY operates an LY12 late Sunday nights (technically Monday) out of JFK (around 2am), which shows up on Qantas. I believe it's the only night flight ex-NYC that's not blocked from QF (I believe LY 8 and LY 26 are always blocked)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 18, 2019, 08:48:09 PM
Quote from DDMS "Newark to Tel Aviv flight 28 is only available with Qantas points on select Mondays and Tuesdays."

And some seasons LY operates an LY12 late Sunday nights (technically Monday) out of JFK (around 2am), which shows up on Qantas. I believe it's the only night flight ex-NYC that's not blocked from QF (I believe LY 8 and LY 26 are always blocked)
Link? Factually incorrect.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on November 18, 2019, 08:58:35 PM
Link? Factually incorrect.
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/bad-el-als-blocking-business-class-award-space-partner-airlines/

Factually incorrect, besides that I booked for Mondays ex-NYC twice since space has been blocked....

Before you attack, maybe check for yourself...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 18, 2019, 09:03:01 PM
Quote from DDMS "Newark to Tel Aviv flight 28 is only available with Qantas points on select Mondays and Tuesdays."

And some seasons LY operates an LY12 late Sunday nights (technically Monday) out of JFK (around 2am), which shows up on Qantas. I believe it's the only night flight ex-NYC that's not blocked from QF (I believe LY 8 and LY 26 are always blocked)

Was it showing up on Expertflyer as well?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on November 18, 2019, 09:05:37 PM
Just checked every Monday in January has availability with Qantas...
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on November 18, 2019, 09:10:42 PM
Just checked every Monday in January has availability with Qantas...
And 4/5 Mondays in March (Mar 9 being the exception, possibly due to Purim)
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 18, 2019, 10:08:40 PM
Just checked every Monday in January has availability with Qantas...

I donít get your point. Didnít DDMS post say itís available on select mondays?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on November 18, 2019, 10:17:27 PM
I donít get your point. Didnít DDMS post say itís available on select mondays?

So hevre does this mean they aren't blocking all seats that aren't on a Tuesday, Wednesday?

Quote from DDMS "Newark to Tel Aviv flight 28 is only available with Qantas points on select Mondays and Tuesdays."

Link? Factually incorrect.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: Denverite on November 18, 2019, 10:24:15 PM
And 4/5 Mondays in March (Mar 9 being the exception, possibly due to Purim)

Sorry I mixed up Mon-Tue with Tue- Wed.


I donít get your point. Didnít DDMS post say itís available on select mondays?

Most of these Mondayís werenít dates that Dan listed as showing any availability on either Matmid or Qantas and he bolded dates that had availability on both.  I could be wrong but it looks like they opened more seats to Qantas (although still on this LY28 flight) since he did that DDMS post. He would have said itís open on every Monday, not a few select ones, if that was the case at the time. Just a reminder also that if you do see seats on the LY26 evening flight to check what kind of airplane is flying because it may be the old angled flat business class.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: zagguru on November 18, 2019, 10:41:47 PM
Sorry I mixed up Mon-Tue with Tue- Wed.


Most of these Mondayís werenít dates that Dan listed as showing any availability on either Matmid or Qantas and he bolded dates that had availability on both.  I could be wrong but it looks like they opened more seats to Qantas (although still on this LY28 flight) since he did that DDMS post. He would have said itís open on every Monday, not a few select ones, if that was the case at the time. Just a reminder also that if you do see seats on the LY26 evening flight to check what kind of airplane is flying because it may be the old angled flat business class.

@Dan thoughts?
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 19, 2019, 01:23:27 AM
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/bad-el-als-blocking-business-class-award-space-partner-airlines/

Factually incorrect, besides that I booked for Mondays ex-NYC twice since space has been blocked....

Before you attack, maybe check for yourself...
Well, I meant the opposite, I've seen other days of the week.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on November 19, 2019, 01:33:29 AM
Well, I meant the opposite, I've seen other days of the week.
Dates OIDH
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 19, 2019, 01:35:04 AM
Dates OIDH
No.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yelped on November 19, 2019, 09:51:41 AM
Well, I meant the opposite, I've seen other days of the week.
With you sparing a few words, you added a couple of pages to this thread.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: MosheD on November 19, 2019, 10:30:23 AM
With you sparing a few words, you added a couple of pages to this thread.
That's how you become a top poster on DDF.
Basics
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: mmgfarb on November 19, 2019, 01:04:15 PM
That's how you become a top poster on DDF.
Basics
Shh, stop spreading our secrets.
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: yandmk on November 19, 2019, 05:00:02 PM
No.
Not sure what that means. I'll take that to mean to you couldn't find any.
@Dan claims to have checked the entire schedule through June and didn't find a single flight besides on Monday and Tuesday, and there haven't been any other reports here for other days of the week on this route.
If you want to make a claim, please back that claim  :)
(Otherwise, you can always stick to the politics thread...  ;))
Title: Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 19, 2019, 05:27:16 PM
Not sure what that means. I'll take that to mean to you couldn't find any.
@Dan claims to have checked the entire schedule through June and didn't find a single flight besides on Monday and Tuesday, and there haven't been any other reports here for other days of the week on this route.
If you want to make a claim, please back that claim  :)
(Otherwise, you can always stick to the politics thread...  ;))
They open closer in, so checking the entire calendar one day doesn't help. And no, I don't feel the need to search now to back my claim, when odds are I won't even find now