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Title: Spain Master Thread
Post by: GABE on February 28, 2009, 09:40:40 PM
I was wondering if anybody knows about kosher food there couldn't find anything online that looked kosher?
Also any ideas of things to do there (jewish/kosher)? Anybody been to the Sagrada Familia (wasn't used yet as a church and probally won't, not expected to be finished for about another 40 years)? Van Gogh Museum worth anything or just another boring must see?
Is it worth renting a car there (not moneywise) or won't get around with the Spanish Language and traffic signs?
Title: Re: Barcelona, Spain
Post by: moish on March 01, 2009, 03:25:52 AM
http://www.jabadbarcelona.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/598649/jewish/Kasher.htm
Title: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 13, 2009, 03:28:00 AM
im planning on visiting spain this summer. does anybody have reccomendations on some good tour guides who focus on the jewish history there?
Title: Re: gibraltar
Post by: Avid Reader on July 06, 2010, 05:47:47 PM
Maybe he wants to ad a "pin" to his travel map. There is something about just going to far places.
Title: Re: gibraltar
Post by: andrew on July 07, 2010, 02:33:26 PM
anyone been to gibraltar ? whats the cheapest way to get there ? whats there to do there ?
your best bet is to catch a flight from england to gibraltar, or you can take a flight to malaga spain and drive approx. 1hour and 30 minutes to gibraltar.
heard it was georgeous and i would love to go.
Title: Re: gibraltar
Post by: Smirk on July 07, 2010, 03:04:41 PM
your best bet is to catch a flight from england to gibraltar, or you can take a flight to malaga spain and drive approx. 1hour and 30 minutes to gibraltar.
heard it was georgeous and i would love to go.
I just got a flight to Malaga for 55k CO. When are you planning this trip for?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Mikeoracle on August 04, 2010, 03:20:19 PM
(Posting for Smirk)
Does anyone know of any kosher food and things to do for the day in Madrid, Spain?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 04, 2010, 03:32:00 PM
according to the info i got, the restaurant in madrid is not recommended
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Smirk on August 04, 2010, 03:34:54 PM
Alright but what if I have no choice? (Rather have bad food then starve ;) unless you meant, not kosher)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 04, 2010, 04:56:57 PM
i meant kosher wise. i believe the chabad told me its not recommended
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: rm on August 05, 2010, 02:08:48 AM
I've got a 6 hour stop over in madrid (flying iberian) is there anything to see?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on August 05, 2010, 08:41:19 AM
Royal palace.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Smirk on August 05, 2010, 01:09:22 PM
I am in Malaga now, and don't really have access to a phone or computer to search, would anyone be able to help me search for some flights to extend my stay? (Is it even possible) I don't mind paying a fee if it is
Here is what I have now:

 Mon, 09AUG10 LH44172 X MADRID
(MAD) 6:20AM FRANKFURT-MAIN
(FRA) 8:55AM
 
 Mon, 09AUG10 LH46743 X FRANKFURT-MAIN
(FRA) 11:30AM AMSTERDAM
(AMS) 12:35PM
 
 Tue, 10AUG10 CO103 X AMSTERDAM
(AMS) 9:15AM NEWARK EWR
(EWR) 11:40AM 757-200 Lunch

I would like to come back late in the week as possible, I'm open to anything
Thanks in advance
 
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 05, 2010, 01:22:56 PM
theres a good kosher store in torremolinos. do you have a car there?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: rm on August 05, 2010, 06:13:47 PM
Iwasnt planning on renting a car....
Are there any jewish tours?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Mikeoracle on August 05, 2010, 07:16:34 PM
I am in Malaga now, and don't really have access to a phone or computer to search, would anyone be able to help me search for some flights to extend my stay? (Is it even possible) I don't mind paying a fee if it is
Here is what I have now:

 Mon, 09AUG10 LH44172 X MADRID
(MAD) 6:20AM FRANKFURT-MAIN
(FRA) 8:55AM
 
 Mon, 09AUG10 LH46743 X FRANKFURT-MAIN
(FRA) 11:30AM AMSTERDAM
(AMS) 12:35PM
 
 Tue, 10AUG10 CO103 X AMSTERDAM
(AMS) 9:15AM NEWARK EWR
(EWR) 11:40AM 757-200 Lunch

I would like to come back late in the week as possible, I'm open to anything
Thanks in advance
 
mission accomplished
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Smirk on August 06, 2010, 06:10:07 AM
I have found and changed my tickets, thanks to MikeOracle
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 16, 2011, 05:24:42 PM
I am thinking of taking a trip in July to London and Paris. I have the option of stopping off for 24 hours in Madrid on the way home. Is there anything interesting to do there and does anyone recommend this stopover to get a taste of Spain? Any Kosher restaurants there these days? Any info would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on December 20, 2011, 11:57:54 PM
I would like to stop off in Madrid for a day. I was wondering if anyone can tell me the must sees and do's there?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 21, 2011, 01:18:38 PM
are you into museums? bullfight?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on December 21, 2011, 01:22:36 PM
Prado Museum (art), Retiro Park, Bullfight (depending on the day of the week), Palace
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on December 21, 2011, 03:32:11 PM
are you into museums? bullfight?
Not into museums. Bullfights are in the summer not going to work out. I enjoy places of historical significance especially in relation to jewish history. Are there fun things to do there?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on December 21, 2011, 03:35:17 PM
Not into museums. Bullfights are in the summer not going to work out. I enjoy places of historical significance especially in relation to jewish history. Are there fun things to do there?

Spain is difficult with regards to Jewish History as most of it has been wiped out. If you are in Madrid and take the high speed train over to Toledo for the day (about 30-45min) you can get a much better picture of Jewish history in Spain. There is a nice Jewish museum, 2 old synagogues and the main square where auto-de-fe's would take place.

I did it with a tour guide who I hired for a 1/2 day tour that was great, but not cheap.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on December 21, 2011, 03:40:37 PM
In my research I came across Toledo as being a place for a look into Jewish History. Was wondering what price range would a tour guide cost me?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on December 21, 2011, 03:41:27 PM
In my research I came across Toledo as being a place for a look into Jewish History. Was wondering what price range would a tour guide cost me?

Into the hundreds because it was a private one. Not even sure if he still does it or not.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on December 21, 2011, 03:42:53 PM
As far as general things what is recommended to go see?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on December 21, 2011, 03:47:27 PM
As far as general things what is recommended to go see?

I liked the Royal Palace in Madrid, Retiro Park was great to walk around and get a boat (but during the winter could be different, I was there in summer), Plaza Mayor...

I'm trying to remember other things I did but my itinerary is on my other computer.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on December 21, 2011, 03:51:31 PM
If you remember the other things post them here and i'll check out the thread every now and then. Thank You
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on December 21, 2011, 03:52:06 PM
Did you get any sort of guide book?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on December 21, 2011, 03:56:51 PM
If you remember the other things post them here and i'll check out the thread every now and then. Thank You

Another thing I remember was the Teleferico (it is like a suspended cable car ride) overlooking the city. Very nice and then got a good walk through the old royal hunting grounds. If you don't like the Prado and some of the other sprinklings in Madrid, it is a city meant for walking and exploring (IMHO). Otherwise, spend your day in Toledo and that's it. I don't know how much other stuff you will find so interesting.

The Royal Palace obviously has a historical bent but not Jewish.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on December 21, 2011, 03:57:17 PM
Did you get any sort of guide book?

I probably had a few, but don't remember which ones I used.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on December 21, 2011, 04:05:21 PM
The Royal Palace looks cool. Dont mind the walking around and seeing things.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 21, 2011, 05:29:43 PM
if you can switch from mad to bcn, youd be better off imo
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on December 21, 2011, 06:16:40 PM
I had thoughts of Barcelona but I wasn't sure(in planning stages). i figured let me see what is in Madrid first. What are some of the things to do in Barcelona?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 21, 2011, 06:31:33 PM
the ramblas, the gaudi architecture, park guell, the gothic quarter, theres a jewish tour (and a visit to the rashbas shul), the montjuic area, a fountain show...
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on December 21, 2011, 06:57:21 PM
THX, will look into those things. Did you go to BCN? If so, Do you have an itinerary of what you did?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 21, 2011, 07:07:19 PM
i did
i recommend reading up a little
frommers.com
wikitravel
tripadvisor

one thing we did which was an interesting way to see the city was we rented a gocar. check it out
http://www.gocartours.es/
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on December 21, 2011, 08:03:16 PM
Thx
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on December 21, 2011, 08:05:25 PM
Whats the kosher food situation in Barcelona?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 22, 2011, 02:30:37 AM
if youre talking about restaurants, there arent any, but i think the chabad rabbis wife might sell some home cooked food
however kosher products can be found
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on December 22, 2011, 10:06:38 AM
the ramblas, the gaudi architecture, park guell, the gothic quarter, theres a jewish tour (and a visit to the rashbas shul), the montjuic area, a fountain show...

How much time do you need in Barcelona to see the sites? Is 24 hours enough?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 22, 2011, 01:45:10 PM
you can definitely see some sites in that time frame...
Title: Barcelona
Post by: generalflo on February 28, 2012, 08:10:50 AM
Hi, I'm looking into information about travel to Barcelona, Spain. If anyone has been there or has any tips on travel there, places to see, things to do, food etc.
Title: Re: Barcelona
Post by: psedge on February 28, 2012, 08:57:03 AM
I happen to be there for 5 days real nice wah exactly are you looking for?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on March 05, 2012, 10:03:51 AM
I see there's a Category 2 Four Points by Sheraton Diagonal in Barcelona. Ratings look good on Trip Advisor and only $K for room per night. Any reason any one feels neccesary to spend the extra $90 a night to be in Las Ramblas at the Le Méridien Barcelona? Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: daganster on March 27, 2012, 04:50:30 PM
Spain is difficult with regards to Jewish History as most of it has been wiped out. If you are in Madrid and take the high speed train over to Toledo for the day (about 30-45min) you can get a much better picture of Jewish history in Spain. There is a nice Jewish museum, 2 old synagogues and the main square where auto-de-fe's would take place.

I did it with a tour guide who I hired for a 1/2 day tour that was great, but not cheap.
I'll be in Madrid this coming Monday for about 11 hours and I'm willing to pay someone to give me a tour of Toledo, so could you give me this guys info? Any other advice appreciated.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 27, 2012, 06:25:37 PM
I'll be in Madrid this coming Monday for about 11 hours and I'm willing to pay someone to give me a tour of Toledo, so could you give me this guys info? Any other advice appreciated.

I don't think I have his contact information anymore. It was 4 years ago already. I think I got it from either the Jewish community website where I sent emails to or from someone at the Sefadric Center in Israel.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: daganster on March 28, 2012, 07:24:14 PM
I found someone in Madrid that's willing to give me a tour he want 450 euros and I bargained him down to 400, but that still sounds like a lot of money. How much did you pay? Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on March 28, 2012, 07:37:43 PM
I found someone in Madrid that's willing to give me a tour he want 450 euros and I bargained him down to 400, but that still sounds like a lot of money. How much did you pay? Any suggestions?

Sounds like a fortune. What does your 400EU buy you?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: daganster on March 28, 2012, 07:38:07 PM
a 6 hour tour. no food or any extra amenities.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on March 28, 2012, 07:41:50 PM
a 6 hour tour. no food or any extra amenities.

Does this guy have any qualifications.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: daganster on March 28, 2012, 08:26:00 PM
what kind of qualifications are you referring to?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on March 28, 2012, 08:27:29 PM
what kind of qualifications are you referring to?

How do you know he isn't just some stranger looking to rip you off?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: daganster on March 28, 2012, 08:29:38 PM
I found him on some Jewish community of Madrid Spain's website.http://www.jewishtraveladvisor.com/jewish-tour-guide.php?ac=Madrid
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: daganster on March 28, 2012, 08:30:26 PM
I'm still trying to figure out how much do I think it's worth and offer him my best and final offer.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: elikay on March 28, 2012, 09:20:35 PM
Here's an email which a relative forwarded me to assist you, at the end I've added the email address to contact them (BTW you may be able to get a lower price if they have an available tour guide for cheaper).

Quote
Toledo is about 1 hour driving from Madrid. We can do that. The tour to Toledo is about 6-8 hours, including the driving time.
The price for this tour will be 200€, including driver-guide (English or Hebrew), transport (go and back to the airport) and a private guided tour of 4 hours.
Will you need a Hebrew speeking guide or an English one?
Best regards,
Hadar Ragonis.
rs_hadar@hotmail.com

EDIT:Now I see the link you posted, seems like this may be Hadar.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: elikay on March 28, 2012, 09:21:18 PM
BTW they were happy with this tour guide.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: daganster on March 28, 2012, 09:43:00 PM
Here's an email which a relative forwarded me to assist you, at the end I've added the email address to contact them (BTW you may be able to get a lower price if they have an available tour guide for cheaper).

EDIT:Now I see the link you posted, seems like this may be Hadar.
I emailed Alex Benarroch and he wanted 450€. I tried to email Hadar but the email failed twice. 200€ sounds a lot more reasonable, so Ill contact Hadar, thanks.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: elikay on March 28, 2012, 09:43:26 PM
I emailed Alex Benarroch and he wanted 450€. I tried to email Hadar but the email failed twice. 200€ sounds a lot more reasonable, so Ill contact Hadar, thanks.
Try the address I provided
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: daganster on March 28, 2012, 09:47:25 PM
BTW they were happy with this tour guide.
Sorry, but who's they?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: daganster on March 28, 2012, 09:47:47 PM
Try the address I provided
I'm doing just that, thanks.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: elikay on March 28, 2012, 09:52:15 PM

Here's an email which a relative forwarded to me to assist you
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: daganster on March 29, 2012, 04:20:18 AM
I kind of missed that
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: daganster on March 31, 2012, 09:37:47 PM
I spoke to Hadar and she wanted 200 euros which I've agreed to, but than she told me that almost everything is closed on Monday. Now we've decided to spend the day in Madrid. How do I know if I'll have a shower in the lounge when flying from MAD - TLV with Iberia?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on March 31, 2012, 11:12:46 PM
I spoke to Hadar and she wanted 200 euros which I've agreed to, but than she told me that almost everything is closed on Monday. Now we've decided to spend the day in Madrid. How do I know if I'll have a shower in the lounge when flying from MAD - TLV with Iberia?

At least she was up-front about Mondays. The 400EU guy probably didn't say anything...
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: daganster on March 31, 2012, 11:53:03 PM
I was thinking the same thing;)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on May 29, 2012, 11:57:00 AM
Anyone ever hear of or use http://www.jewishtoledotour.com/ ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on May 30, 2012, 06:15:15 PM
shouldn't there be separate threads for barcelona and madrid?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on June 16, 2012, 08:43:30 PM
I spoke to Hadar and she wanted 200 euros which I've agreed to, but than she told me that almost everything is closed on Monday. Now we've decided to spend the day in Madrid. How do I know if I'll have a shower in the lounge when flying from MAD - TLV with Iberia?

http://www.prioritypass.com/lounges/lounge-details.cfm (http://www.prioritypass.com/lounges/lounge-details.cfm)
although it says showers for a fee?!?! never heard that before.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: daganster on June 24, 2012, 11:55:14 AM
http://www.prioritypass.com/lounges/lounge-details.cfm (http://www.prioritypass.com/lounges/lounge-details.cfm)
although it says showers for a fee?!?! never heard that before.
I had access to Iberia's for class lounge that had showers etc. for free, but the priority pass lounge in MAD does charge 20 euros for showers I checked it out when I was there.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 26, 2012, 02:23:42 AM
shouldn't there be separate threads for barcelona and madrid?
Gets cluttered. Same way NYC has one not five for each borough.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: lechaim2life on June 27, 2012, 02:57:07 PM
Looking for advice on what to do about using a cellphone in Spain...anyone have experience getting a Sim card? Or any reccomendations?
Title: ***SPAIN SUMMER 2012 EURO TRIP !! Need advice and planning help.. Please
Post by: Chai on July 29, 2012, 01:02:58 AM
OK so we changed our entire vacation... :o
I thank ALL of you who commented and PM'd me ( I'm learning the lingo slowly... Still be nice to me)
SPAIN! Figured I'd stick to one country..

Basically I need help as to figure out the order of cities I will be visiting, and which cities are a must see.

We are going to Spain from NY Aug 14- Sept 3 8)

Obviously Barcelona, and Ibiza. Barcelona now has a kosher restaurant.. Which is super exciting obviously.

What's the deal with kosher in spain?

What cities do I MUST do and are the nicest??
Madrid?
Vallencia?
Granada?
Malaga?
Gibralter?
Seville?
Mallorca?

Which of these are MUST sees? Or any other places in spain that are a must?

Can you tell me about things you've done that I must do?

Also where to stay?

Where can we be for shabbos? Have meals? Hotels near chabad?

Any advice would be amazing.

Mostly I need the order of cities that makes the most sense to travel to, and what's the best way to travel between cities?

Thanks so much!!
SO SO much!
Chai
Title: Re: GIRLS SPAIN SUMMER2012 EURO TRIP !! Need advice and planning help.. Please
Post by: jj1000 on July 29, 2012, 01:16:22 AM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=850 read up and enjoy!
Title: Re: GIRLS SPAIN SUMMER2012 EURO TRIP !! Need advice and planning help.. Please
Post by: Chai on July 29, 2012, 01:58:01 AM
Wasn't much info there hence I asked
Title: Re: ***SPAIN SUMMER2012 EURO TRIP !! Need advice and planning help.. Please
Post by: Chai on July 29, 2012, 02:14:37 AM
Done. And relax
Title: Re: ***SPAIN SUMMER 2012 EURO TRIP !! Need advice and planning help.. Please
Post by: moish on July 29, 2012, 07:20:51 AM
summer 2009,
i flew into barcelona, was there a few days (daytripped to girona), took the train to madrid, was there a few days (daytripped to toledo), than flew to lisbon, portugal for a day, then flew to malaga, drove to gibraltar for shabbos, daytripped to Tangiers, Morrocco, then came back to malaga and based ourselves there (and the kosher restaurant, pizza shop and market in nearby Torremolinos) while we daytripped to Grenada (dont miss), Cordoba and Marbella

i had no interest in visiting ibiza as i was not a british single teen, but i would have liked to have visited Sevilla and Mallorca had i had the time
Title: Re: ***SPAIN SUMMER 2012 EURO TRIP !! Need advice and planning help.. Please
Post by: Ergel on July 30, 2012, 01:34:31 AM
I imagine you'd get more info on a question like this from trip advisor forums or something of the like
Title: Re: ***SPAIN SUMMER 2012 EURO TRIP !! Need advice and planning help.. Please
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 30, 2012, 05:28:25 AM
I imagine you'd get more info on a question like this from trip advisor forums or something of the like

Chai is looking for the Jewish aspects as well.
Title: Re: ***SPAIN SUMMER 2012 EURO TRIP !! Need advice and planning help.. Please
Post by: kivabb on July 30, 2012, 03:06:43 PM
http://www.urbancultours.com/Pages/eng/programs_tours.html
http://www.jewishtoledotour.com/

Never used either one but hope to in late October
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Chai on July 31, 2012, 11:52:17 AM
Trying to figure out the best way to fly.
Aug 13 or 14 till Sept 3 or 4.
If anyone could help me that would be great!!

A-From NY. Into madrid ( then head to Barcelona, Ibiza, Valencia, head down south, Marbella, Malaga, Gibralt and seville.  ( Possible Cordoba and Grenada) and fly back to NY from somewhere down south. Any of those have direct flights to NY? Or even a fun stopover for 2 days ( is there even such a thing? )

B- Or from NY to Madrid, go around and end in Barcelona for a week ( end on a high note)

C- Or into Barcelona, and go down south and come around and fly out of Madrid ( which isn't as nice as the other areas)

As far as spending 3 shabbosim in spain, I was thinking, Gibralter, Barcelona, and Valencia.
Any other siggestions?

Thanks so much.
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on July 31, 2012, 06:27:25 PM
Trying to figure out the best way to fly.
Aug 13 or 14 till Sept 3 or 4.
If anyone could help me that would be great!!

A-From NY. Into madrid ( then head to Barcelona, Ibiza, Valencia, head down south, Marbella, Malaga, Gibralt and seville.  ( Possible Cordoba and Grenada) and fly back to NY from somewhere down south. Any of those have direct flights to NY? Or even a fun stopover for 2 days ( is there even such a thing? )

B- Or from NY to Madrid, go around and end in Barcelona for a week ( end on a high note)

C- Or into Barcelona, and go down south and come around and fly out of Madrid ( which isn't as nice as the other areas)

As far as spending 3 shabbosim in spain, I was thinking, Gibralter, Barcelona, and Valencia.
Any other siggestions?

Thanks so much.

This an award ticket?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Chai on August 01, 2012, 12:08:02 AM
What's an award ticket?
For a lack of sounding retarded
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on August 01, 2012, 12:10:01 AM
What's an award ticket?
For a lack of sounding retarded
An award ticket is when you use airline miles (you earned from credit cards or previous flights) to book the flight. Did you PM Whyaich about your flight? Or email him Whyaich@gmail.com
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Chai on August 01, 2012, 12:29:00 AM
Just emailed him or her.
Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Chai on August 01, 2012, 12:30:25 AM
I'm THAT slow that I don't even know if I have miles from specific airlines. I do have a 500 couched from delta I need to use before sept
Title: Spain Master Thread
Post by: WhyAich on August 01, 2012, 12:39:54 AM
An award ticket is when you use airline miles (you earned from credit cards or previous flights) to book the flight. Did you PM Whyaich about your flight? Or email him Whyaich@gmail.com
Like :)
Title: Spain Master Thread
Post by: WhyAich on August 01, 2012, 12:40:16 AM
Just emailed him or her.
Thanks
Him :)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on August 01, 2012, 12:48:57 AM
I'm THAT slow that I don't even know if I have miles from specific airlines. I do have a 500 couched from delta I need to use before sept

500 miles won't get you .... anywhere. :)

            But then again maybe you have an account sitting around with 50,000? 150,000?

You should check into that.

Fun story-  I was helping my grandfather with some of his accounts last week and we decided to look at his old ancient United account.

          So his United miles had expired but apparently he had flown Continental quite a bit and obviously when they merged it all went into one account. And sitting there was 200,000+ miles. What a fun surprise. And I'm glad we caught them before they expire next year.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Chai on August 01, 2012, 12:53:55 AM
$ 500 voucher I meant
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on August 01, 2012, 12:55:45 AM
$ 500 voucher I meant

Ah, that sounds better.
When is the expiration date? Sept 1?

 You might want to sell it if you don't end up using it on your upcoming trip.

Chaval to let it go to waste.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on August 01, 2012, 12:57:40 AM
I'm THAT slow that I don't even know if I have miles from specific airlines. I do have a 500 couched from delta I need to use before sept
Just saying IMO the biggest perk of this website is to earn miles through credit cards and earn free flights and hotels through that. You may want to look into that.

Him :)
Really, here I thought... You sure :P
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Chai on August 01, 2012, 01:03:57 AM
Working on that, have the spg, freedom, and sapphire
Which is the best to use to book flights ?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on August 01, 2012, 01:10:19 AM
Working on that, have the spg, freedom, and sapphire
Which is the best to use to book flights ?
wrong thread for that. Check here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986.0 among many others. threads.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on August 01, 2012, 01:11:17 AM
Working on that, have the spg, freedom, and sapphire
Which is the best to use to book flights ?

The best points to use?
The best to use to earn points?
That would be the Sapphire. double points on travel. And if you book through travelocity or something through the Ultimate Rewards mall that's another 2 points per dollar.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Chai on August 01, 2012, 01:19:36 AM
I also want a card that has food insurance
Last summer lost luggage
So sapphire over Amex for booking tickets and getting cc points
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Chai on August 01, 2012, 01:21:55 AM
I was told spy Amex is also double points for travel
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Saver2000 on August 01, 2012, 01:33:52 AM
I also want a card that has food insurance
Last summer lost luggage
So sapphire over Amex for booking tickets and getting cc points
I was told spy Amex is also double points for travel

I'm not the OT police,  but com'on.  . .
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on August 01, 2012, 01:35:49 AM
I was told spy Amex is also double points for travel

The Amex Starwood?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Saver2000 on August 01, 2012, 01:42:15 AM
The Amex Starwood?

Sky, do you mind directing him to the right thread instead of leading him in taking this thread OT? Thanx
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Chai on August 01, 2012, 01:54:58 AM
The Amex Starwood?

Yes SPG amex
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on August 01, 2012, 02:04:20 AM
Sky, do you mind directing him to the right thread instead of leading him in taking this thread OT? Thanx

Would this be the "questions for beginners" ? Or a whole new thread of it's own? ;)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Chai on August 02, 2012, 10:24:52 PM
best cell phone to rent and use in spain for 3 weeks?
best plan ? or company to rent from
any deals available?
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on August 02, 2012, 11:28:05 PM
best cell phone to rent and use in spain for 3 weeks?
best plan ? or company to rent from
any deals available?

Do you plan to use it often? You could take an unlocked smartphone with you and just get a prepaid sim there and make most calls over wifi. 
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Medic97 on August 10, 2012, 06:31:00 AM
Hey guys taking my wife on a trip to spain. We plan on flying to malaga spending shabbos in Gibraltar then seen seville, cordova, grenada, alecante, toledo, segovia and finally last shabbos by relatives in madrid. Any recommendations for hotels or things to see in or around theses citys, I rented a car with Europcar and will be driving this whole stretch. Anyone have experience with Europacar is there something i should know or be concerned with?

Also i would also like to know about cell phones. if i bring an unlocked phone i should just buy a prepaid? what if i call the states? do you know what cell bands spain uses?

TIA for any help and advice you can give me
-Medic
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Drago on August 30, 2012, 05:45:03 AM
Is this the best place to ask about the Canary Islands, or should I start a new thread?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on August 30, 2012, 11:34:25 AM
Is this the best place to ask about the Canary Islands, or should I start a new thread?

I've been there. Very nice place.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Drago on August 30, 2012, 12:33:04 PM
I've been there. Very nice place.
Do all alliances fly there?
I'm thinking about using Avios to go from TLV to MAD, stopover, and then to the islands. The total one way cost would be 20k BA + $90 or so, assuming availability. But going back, I wouldn't mind flying a different alliance so I can stopover somewhere else?
Also, do you recommend any hotels?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on August 30, 2012, 01:40:30 PM
Do all alliances fly there?
I'm thinking about using Avios to go from TLV to MAD, stopover, and then to the islands. The total one way cost would be 20k BA + $90 or so, assuming availability. But going back, I wouldn't mind flying a different alliance so I can stopover somewhere else?
Also, do you recommend any hotels?

I flew Spanair which was *A, but no longer exists. Not sure what else flies there. I can't remember the name of where we stayed, but it was not part of any major chain.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Drago on August 30, 2012, 02:03:16 PM
I flew Spanair which was *A, but no longer exists. Not sure what else flies there. I can't remember the name of where we stayed, but it was not part of any major chain.
a/t special there, or just nice beaches?
also, is it a series of islands, and if so, how do you travel btw them?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on August 30, 2012, 04:24:10 PM
a/t special there, or just nice beaches?
also, is it a series of islands, and if so, how do you travel btw them?

Nice beaches and resorts. Very laid back atmosphere.

I was only on one island - Tenerife. There are other islands in the set. You can also look into Mallorca, which is another Spanish owned island.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on October 24, 2012, 10:05:01 AM
Anyone know the status of http://isamarkosher.com/ as far as reliability in Barcelona? Bringing food along but want to be prepared in case of emergency. I got their link from here: http://www.jabadbarcelona.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/1416707/jewish/Kosher-Food.htm

Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on November 05, 2012, 04:58:22 PM
I have been looking for an opportunity to try to give back to this great site. My last 2-3 trips (Venice, Kauai, LA) were ideas that I literally copied from these forums. Not sure if this trip report will interest anyone but here we go:

My wife always had a fascination with Spain and Jewish history there, so that put this trip in the #1 slot.

Just to give a bit of background, I have BE”H 7 kids (ages 1-14) and it’s very difficult to make arrangements leaving them with family. So my choices are either to not travel for 20 years until they’re all out of the house or to take these 3-4 day escapades where I get a taste of the places I want to visit. In this case we left the 6 older ones at home and took the baby along. All babies are different, but in my experience under 1 year old is still tolerable.

Planning the flights: I planned this trip well over 6 months ago. At first I only considered Air Canada to avoid the 10% infant fee from Unites and US Air but I was having trouble finding availability for the non-stop United flight from EWR-Barcelona or the United flight from Madrid-EWR on businessFirst. TAP Portugal had availability in business but I didn’t know too much about them and their seats weren’t lie-flats like on United. To satisfy my curiosity, I picked up the phone with United and asked them how much would the infant fare be for that flight. I of course was optimistic that I would be able to eventually switch over to United when it opened up. They came back with a ridiculous quote of $750+ for the infant ticket. I pressed the agent that when I did it online, it was coming up for $300. He was man enough to override the system and get me the $300. Yes it’s not the $100-150 I would have had on Air Canada, but it gave me hope that I would get on the United flight.  Flying on a 4 day trip to Spain with a 12 month old, getting some sleep on the flight was critical.

The outbound flight to Barcelona: In the end, we never got onto the United flights. We flew EWR-LIS-BCN business on Tap and we were pleasantly surprised. We got our kosher meals (something with Badatz from Manchester ) and the seats and service were pretty good. The connection in Lisbon was a bit of a madhouse but considering we left the Sunday night before Sandy, we were glad we made it out and that we made our connection.

Hotel in Barcelona: Our first stop was Barcelona. We arrived at like 10 AM and took a taxi from the airport (28 Euro) to the Le Méridien Barcelona. It was 12K points for a standard room and for another 3K points I was able to plan a junior suite in advance. I only have gold status so it was worth knowing I would have the extra space before I arrived. I requested an upgrade on top of that at the hotel but no go. The room was nice but the location of the hotel which is located on La Rambla was even better. Our room wasn’t ready but we checked in and they held our luggage while we went sightseeing.

Activities Day 1: We took a taxi(13 Euro) to Park Guell (free)and walked around this beautiful park designed by Antoni Gaudí. We then went to Casa Milla (33 Euro entrance fee for 2) to see more. Really beautiful.
https://www.google.com/search?q=park+guell&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=IyOYUMa5AayM0QHcnYG4Cg&sqi=2&ved=0CDYQsAQ&biw=1625&bih=899
https://www.google.com/search?q=casa+mila&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=QCOYUNfJG4XD0QHF2oDIAQ&ved=0CDYQsAQ&biw=1625&bih=899

Activities Day 2: We took a walking tour along the streets of the Old Jewish quarter from the Middle Ages. Although most of the buildings are from later times (17th century and over), Dominique helped us revisit our past. We saw the remains of the Middle Ages synagogue restored as a small Museum, run by a Jewish association. Here is Dominique’s link: http://www.urbancultours.com/Pages/eng/programs_tours.html
We enjoyed it very much. 

Flight to Madrid: For 4800 Avios each (baby was $30), we got 2 one way tickets on Iberia from Barcelona to Spain. No frills but did the trick.
Hotel in Madrid: Although most seem to stay in Downtown Madrid, I found a bit out of the way this Sheraton Madrid Mirasierra Hotel & Spa that for 10K (+1 for an upgrade), had a free airport shuttle, gave us a beautiful suite and had very reasonable prices on massages for my wife. I’m guessing the gold status gave me an additional upgrade but I wasn’t asking too many questions once we saw our room.

Activities Day 3: This was the highlight of our trip. We were picked up at the hotel by Salomon who drove us to Toledo and gave us a fascinating 3 hour walking tour of history and Jewish perspective. Awesome. He then drove us to Madrid and showed us the significant points of interest in Madrid. He then drove us back to the hotel. Solomon’s website is http://www.jewishtoledotour.com/

Flight from Madrid-Newark: On the return we stopped in Oportu which was much nicer, calmer than Lisbon. We also didn’t have to clear security again which was nice. Food from Stogels.

Food: We brought everything. I took Chabad numbers just in case but didn’t want to spend time shopping….I have a cooler that literally holds ice for well over 24 hours. All you need to do is add a new bag of ice in the hotel the next night and you’re set. It’s expensive, but does the trick.
http://www.amazon.com/Polar-Bear-Coolers-Cooler-Black/dp/B000YB6QLM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1352150694&sr=8-3&keywords=polar+bear+cooler

Baby: Let us sleep 4-5 hours a night (that’s being generous) but behaved during our outings. Like I said, it’s either 20 year wait or roughing it a bit. I sent my wife for a massage the last night at the spa and hopefully she’ll continue letting me pull these things off  ;).

The two tours we took did make the average cost of the trip more than usual (the hotel was free and the airfare was $430 for the 3 of us). But in my opinion with the time we had, the perspective and history we were given we couldn’t have really done on our own.

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 05, 2012, 06:17:28 PM
how much was the toledo tour?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on November 05, 2012, 09:56:20 PM
how much was the toledo tour?

325 Euro (plus 15 Euro in entrance fees to museums) for the day
Title: Re: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on November 05, 2012, 11:53:32 PM
I have been looking for an opportunity to try to give back to this great site. My last 2-3 trips (Venice, Kauai, LA) were ideas that I literally copied from these forums. Not sure if this trip report will interest anyone but here we go:

My wife always had a fascination with Spain and Jewish history there, so that put this trip in the #1 slot.

Just to give a bit of background, I have BE”H 7 kids (ages 1-14) and it’s very difficult to make arrangements leaving them with family. So my choices are either to not travel for 20 years until they’re all out of the house or to take these 3-4 day escapades where I get a taste of the places I want to visit. In this case we left the 6 older ones at home and took the baby along. All babies are different, but in my experience under 1 year old is still tolerable.

Planning the flights: I planned this trip well over 6 months ago. At first I only considered Air Canada to avoid the 10% infant fee from Unites and US Air but I was having trouble finding availability for the non-stop United flight from EWR-Barcelona or the United flight from Madrid-EWR on businessFirst. TAP Portugal had availability in business but I didn’t know too much about them and their seats weren’t lie-flats like on United. To satisfy my curiosity, I picked up the phone with United and asked them how much would the infant fare be for that flight. I of course was optimistic that I would be able to eventually switch over to United when it opened up. They came back with a ridiculous quote of $750+ for the infant ticket. I pressed the agent that when I did it online, it was coming up for $300. He was man enough to override the system and get me the $300. Yes it’s not the $100-150 I would have had on Air Canada, but it gave me hope that I would get on the United flight.  Flying on a 4 day trip to Spain with a 12 month old, getting some sleep on the flight was critical.

The outbound flight to Barcelona: In the end, we never got onto the United flights. We flew EWR-LIS-BCN business on Tap and we were pleasantly surprised. We got our kosher meals (something with Badatz from Manchester ) and the seats and service were pretty good. The connection in Lisbon was a bit of a madhouse but considering we left the Sunday night before Sandy, we were glad we made it out and that we made our connection.

Hotel in Barcelona: Our first stop was Barcelona. We arrived at like 10 AM and took a taxi from the airport (28 Euro) to the Le Méridien Barcelona. It was 12K points for a standard room and for another 3K points I was able to plan a junior suite in advance. I only have gold status so it was worth knowing I would have the extra space before I arrived. I requested an upgrade on top of that at the hotel but no go. The room was nice but the location of the hotel which is located on La Rambla was even better. Our room wasn’t ready but we checked in and they held our luggage while we went sightseeing.

Activities Day 1: We took a taxi(13 Euro) to Park Guell (free)and walked around this beautiful park designed by Antoni Gaudí. We then went to Casa Milla (33 Euro entrance fee for 2) to see more. Really beautiful.
https://www.google.com/search?q=park+guell&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=IyOYUMa5AayM0QHcnYG4Cg&sqi=2&ved=0CDYQsAQ&biw=1625&bih=899
https://www.google.com/search?q=casa+mila&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=QCOYUNfJG4XD0QHF2oDIAQ&ved=0CDYQsAQ&biw=1625&bih=899

Activities Day 2: We took a walking tour along the streets of the Old Jewish quarter from the Middle Ages. Although most of the buildings are from later times (17th century and over), Dominique helped us revisit our past. We saw the remains of the Middle Ages synagogue restored as a small Museum, run by a Jewish association. Here is Dominique’s link: http://www.urbancultours.com/Pages/eng/programs_tours.html
We enjoyed it very much. 

Flight to Madrid: For 4800 Avios each (baby was $30), we got 2 one way tickets on Iberia from Barcelona to Spain. No frills but did the trick.
Hotel in Madrid: Although most seem to stay in Downtown Madrid, I found a bit out of the way this Sheraton Madrid Mirasierra Hotel & Spa that for 10K (+1 for an upgrade), had a free airport shuttle, gave us a beautiful suite and had very reasonable prices on massages for my wife. I’m guessing the gold status gave me an additional upgrade but I wasn’t asking too many questions once we saw our room.

Activities Day 3: This was the highlight of our trip. We were picked up at the hotel by Salomon who drove us to Toledo and gave us a fascinating 3 hour walking tour of history and Jewish perspective. Awesome. He then drove us to Madrid and showed us the significant points of interest in Madrid. He then drove us back to the hotel. Solomon’s website is http://www.jewishtoledotour.com/

Flight from Madrid-Newark: On the return we stopped in Oportu which was much nicer, calmer than Lisbon. We also didn’t have to clear security again which was nice. Food from Stogels.

Food: We brought everything. I took Chabad numbers just in case but didn’t want to spend time shopping….I have a cooler that literally holds ice for well over 24 hours. All you need to do is add a new bag of ice in the hotel the next night and you’re set. It’s expensive, but does the trick.
http://www.amazon.com/Polar-Bear-Coolers-Cooler-Black/dp/B000YB6QLM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1352150694&sr=8-3&keywords=polar+bear+cooler

Baby: Let us sleep 4-5 hours a night (that’s being generous) but behaved during our outings. Like I said, it’s either 20 year wait or roughing it a bit. I sent my wife for a massage the last night at the spa and hopefully she’ll continue letting me pull these things off  ;).

The two tours we took did make the average cost of the trip more than usual (the hotel was free and the airfare was $430 for the 3 of us). But in my opinion with the time we had, the perspective and history we were given we couldn’t have really done on our own.

What a nice trip report. Its great that you guys got to go! 3 days is def better than nothing!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: gunit770 on November 06, 2012, 12:27:55 AM
I have been looking for an opportunity to try to give back to this great site. My last 2-3 trips (Venice, Kauai, LA) were ideas that I literally copied from these forums. Not sure if this trip report will interest anyone but here we go:

My wife always had a fascination with Spain and Jewish history there, so that put this trip in the #1 slot.

Just to give a bit of background, I have BE”H 7 kids (ages 1-14) and it’s very difficult to make arrangements leaving them with family. So my choices are either to not travel for 20 years until they’re all out of the house or to take these 3-4 day escapades where I get a taste of the places I want to visit. In this case we left the 6 older ones at home and took the baby along. All babies are different, but in my experience under 1 year old is still tolerable.

Planning the flights: I planned this trip well over 6 months ago. At first I only considered Air Canada to avoid the 10% infant fee from Unites and US Air but I was having trouble finding availability for the non-stop United flight from EWR-Barcelona or the United flight from Madrid-EWR on businessFirst. TAP Portugal had availability in business but I didn’t know too much about them and their seats weren’t lie-flats like on United. To satisfy my curiosity, I picked up the phone with United and asked them how much would the infant fare be for that flight. I of course was optimistic that I would be able to eventually switch over to United when it opened up. They came back with a ridiculous quote of $750+ for the infant ticket. I pressed the agent that when I did it online, it was coming up for $300. He was man enough to override the system and get me the $300. Yes it’s not the $100-150 I would have had on Air Canada, but it gave me hope that I would get on the United flight.  Flying on a 4 day trip to Spain with a 12 month old, getting some sleep on the flight was critical.

The outbound flight to Barcelona: In the end, we never got onto the United flights. We flew EWR-LIS-BCN business on Tap and we were pleasantly surprised. We got our kosher meals (something with Badatz from Manchester ) and the seats and service were pretty good. The connection in Lisbon was a bit of a madhouse but considering we left the Sunday night before Sandy, we were glad we made it out and that we made our connection.

Hotel in Barcelona: Our first stop was Barcelona. We arrived at like 10 AM and took a taxi from the airport (28 Euro) to the Le Méridien Barcelona. It was 12K points for a standard room and for another 3K points I was able to plan a junior suite in advance. I only have gold status so it was worth knowing I would have the extra space before I arrived. I requested an upgrade on top of that at the hotel but no go. The room was nice but the location of the hotel which is located on La Rambla was even better. Our room wasn’t ready but we checked in and they held our luggage while we went sightseeing.

Activities Day 1: We took a taxi(13 Euro) to Park Guell (free)and walked around this beautiful park designed by Antoni Gaudí. We then went to Casa Milla (33 Euro entrance fee for 2) to see more. Really beautiful.
https://www.google.com/search?q=park+guell&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=IyOYUMa5AayM0QHcnYG4Cg&sqi=2&ved=0CDYQsAQ&biw=1625&bih=899
https://www.google.com/search?q=casa+mila&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=QCOYUNfJG4XD0QHF2oDIAQ&ved=0CDYQsAQ&biw=1625&bih=899

Activities Day 2: We took a walking tour along the streets of the Old Jewish quarter from the Middle Ages. Although most of the buildings are from later times (17th century and over), Dominique helped us revisit our past. We saw the remains of the Middle Ages synagogue restored as a small Museum, run by a Jewish association. Here is Dominique’s link: http://www.urbancultours.com/Pages/eng/programs_tours.html
We enjoyed it very much. 

Flight to Madrid: For 4800 Avios each (baby was $30), we got 2 one way tickets on Iberia from Barcelona to Spain. No frills but did the trick.
Hotel in Madrid: Although most seem to stay in Downtown Madrid, I found a bit out of the way this Sheraton Madrid Mirasierra Hotel & Spa that for 10K (+1 for an upgrade), had a free airport shuttle, gave us a beautiful suite and had very reasonable prices on massages for my wife. I’m guessing the gold status gave me an additional upgrade but I wasn’t asking too many questions once we saw our room.

Activities Day 3: This was the highlight of our trip. We were picked up at the hotel by Salomon who drove us to Toledo and gave us a fascinating 3 hour walking tour of history and Jewish perspective. Awesome. He then drove us to Madrid and showed us the significant points of interest in Madrid. He then drove us back to the hotel. Solomon’s website is http://www.jewishtoledotour.com/

Flight from Madrid-Newark: On the return we stopped in Oportu which was much nicer, calmer than Lisbon. We also didn’t have to clear security again which was nice. Food from Stogels.

Food: We brought everything. I took Chabad numbers just in case but didn’t want to spend time shopping….I have a cooler that literally holds ice for well over 24 hours. All you need to do is add a new bag of ice in the hotel the next night and you’re set. It’s expensive, but does the trick.
http://www.amazon.com/Polar-Bear-Coolers-Cooler-Black/dp/B000YB6QLM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1352150694&sr=8-3&keywords=polar+bear+cooler

Baby: Let us sleep 4-5 hours a night (that’s being generous) but behaved during our outings. Like I said, it’s either 20 year wait or roughing it a bit. I sent my wife for a massage the last night at the spa and hopefully she’ll continue letting me pull these things off  ;).

The two tours we took did make the average cost of the trip more than usual (the hotel was free and the airfare was $430 for the 3 of us). But in my opinion with the time we had, the perspective and history we were given we couldn’t have really done on our own.

Awesome Trip report! I'm going to BCN for winter break and have the Le meridian reserved for cash & points (4,500+90). DO you think its worth it for the upgrade to the junior suite for 14,500? They also have the prestige suite for 24,000 but I think thats a little over the top, opinions please...
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on November 06, 2012, 01:56:57 AM
we got 2 one way tickets on Iberia from Barcelona to Spain.
:o
Great post regardless ;)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 06, 2012, 07:46:15 AM
Can people please stop quoting the entire post
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on November 06, 2012, 10:03:28 AM
Awesome Trip report! I'm going to BCN for winter break and have the Le meridian reserved for cash & points (4,500+90). DO you think its worth it for the upgrade to the junior suite for 14,500? They also have the prestige suite for 24,000 but I think thats a little over the top, opinions please...
The junior suite gave us a couch and some extra room with the crib although we didn't spend too much time in the room. Bathroom was really cool too but I didn't see a regular room to know what to compare it to. For me it was a no brainer going from 12K to 15K.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Sammy12345 on November 10, 2012, 04:10:58 PM
Hello
I am looking for some help on booking to Spain. I am planing on leaving March 12-19 from TLV-Barcelona I have 40,500 avios points I tried searching on there website but for some reason i never am able to get a flight maybe i am doing it incorrectly..... can someone help me on that?I was looking for  ideas of what to do there? Has anyone been to valencia i heard that there are really cool stuff there to do..... Being that its not the time of year for beaches I was looking for ideas..... Bull fighting...
 TIA
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 10, 2012, 07:10:03 PM
Bull fighting...
went to a bullfight in madrid...
if you do go, be prepared to witness one of the most cruel, barbaric sights you will ever see
(im not an animal lover either...)
couldnt stay more than 2 rounds
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on December 05, 2012, 10:50:07 AM

Activities Day 3: This was the highlight of our trip. We were picked up at the hotel by Salomon who drove us to Toledo and gave us a fascinating 3 hour walking tour of history and Jewish perspective. Awesome. He then drove us to Madrid and showed us the significant points of interest in Madrid. He then drove us back to the hotel. Solomon’s website is http://www.jewishtoledotour.com/

Anyone else go on this Toledo tour? Any comments to add?
Title: Barcelona Thread
Post by: Got a clue on December 18, 2012, 02:06:48 AM
Hey I see that there is no seperate thread discussing Barcelona. Im thinking of going there march-april time for 2 days and wanted some ideas... any nice hotels for a decent price? I dont have spg..... is there a jewish tour in Barcelona itself? What are the "cant miss" sights? And did any1 rent a gocar? Thanks
Title: Re: Barcelona Thread
Post by: moish on December 18, 2012, 02:41:32 AM
Hey I see that there is no seperate thread discussing Barcelona. Im thinking of going there march-april time for 2 days and wanted some ideas... any nice hotels for a decent price? I dont have spg..... is there a jewish tour in Barcelona itself? What are the "cant miss" sights? And did any1 rent a gocar? Thanks
jewish tour - http://www.urbancultours.com/

i rented a gocar
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Got a clue on December 18, 2012, 06:23:23 AM
Did you think the go car was a good way to see the city? Group tour or went on your own?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 18, 2012, 07:32:48 AM
Did you think the go car was a good way to see the city? Group tour or went on your own?
absolutely, on our own, but theres a route map and the gps tells you things as you pass certain landmarks. you can easily park it in the scooter parking spots
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on February 20, 2013, 05:03:41 PM
re: Jewish Toledo Tour.

A lot of $$ for not so much. 360 Euro + you need to pay for entry to both shuls. And he makes you pay for his entry tickets as well.

He said that it'll be a 5 hour walking tour. It was actually more like 3 1/2 hours.

He takes you to the two shuls that are left from before the inquisition, walks you around town, drives you outside of town for some nice views & gives you some bits of Jewish Toledo trivia.

You can easily walk around yourself.

The major advantage is that he picks you up in a private car in Madrid and drops you back in Madrid. Depending on how many people you are, the train can cost you 100-200 euro.

In retrospect, I would not have hired him. On the other hand, he is a BT and can use the $.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: world2see on February 28, 2013, 05:10:07 PM
We are arriving late at night and departing early the next morning into Madrid airport, any recommendations as to where to stay? Preferably wouldn't want to leave airport, as well be with kids, any decent airport hotels? Thanks:)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: bitbythedog on March 05, 2013, 03:28:52 PM
We are arriving late at night and departing early the next morning into Madrid airport, any recommendations as to where to stay? Preferably wouldn't want to leave airport, as well be with kids, any decent airport hotels? Thanks:)

im looking for the same....
did you end up finding anything ??
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Afight4ever on April 14, 2013, 09:52:04 PM
If you have access to the VIP Salon lounge by Iberia, they have beds in a quite room that was very nice to get a few hours of sleep. not ideal but nice in case you get stuck.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 22, 2013, 02:20:17 AM
gib is probably a better bet for shabbos, not sure if u have enough time though
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on April 22, 2013, 03:51:36 AM
Anyone else go on this Toledo tour? Any comments to add?

 You don't need a guide, I did Toledo myself without a guide there's like 2 shuls from before the Inquisition, Toledo is a small city.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 23, 2013, 01:49:43 PM
Thats good I will look around in that case. Is there anything else to do in the area? Is driving to Madrid via Sevilla and Cordoba a good way to spend a few days? Other option is to fly to Barcelona from AGP near Gibraltar and spend a few days there.

I initially was gonna fly to Barcelona and then drive to Nice but one way rentals are out of control (best I found for 3 days was abt 800)

You can head down to Morocco via ferry I think from Gib or nearby.  Marbella, Malaga, Torremolinos are famous beach areas on the costa del sol (and the latter I think has a kosher restaurant during the summer).  I didn't go, but I think the Alhambra is also a few hours out.  I drove down from Sevilla to Gib one way when I did it and it was pleasant. Not sure I would venture to drive all the way to Madrid, but I'm sure people have - I just don't know the timing of it, etc. It all depends on what you're looking to do really.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 23, 2013, 02:24:21 PM
You can head down to Morocco via ferry I think from Gib or nearby.  Marbella, Malaga, Torremolinos are famous beach areas on the costa del sol (and the latter I think has a kosher restaurant during the summer).  I didn't go, but I think the Alhambra is also a few hours out.  I drove down from Sevilla to Gib one way when I did it and it was pleasant. Not sure I would venture to drive all the way to Madrid, but I'm sure people have - I just don't know the timing of it, etc. It all depends on what you're looking to do really.
ferry leaves from tarifa

alhambra is in granada
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 23, 2013, 07:36:38 PM
You can head down to Morocco via ferry I think from Gib or nearby.  Marbella, Malaga, Torremolinos are famous beach areas on the costa del sol (and the latter I think has a kosher restaurant during the summer).  I didn't go, but I think the Alhambra is also a few hours out.  I drove down from Sevilla to Gib one way when I did it and it was pleasant. Not sure I would venture to drive all the way to Madrid, but I'm sure people have - I just don't know the timing of it, etc. It all depends on what you're looking to do really.

Actually what I am planning on doing is flying into Lisbon from Newark and connecting later that day (Monday) to Casablanca Morroco.
Will spend week between Fez, Marrakech and Casablanca and Friday I plan on flying to AGP, Malaga, Spain. Will do Shabbos in Gibraltar and then trying to piece together the next week. I could probably spend a day or 2 in Gibraltar and coste de Sol as you guys are reccomending. Thing is I have another full week afterwards that I can spend in the region.

I was going to drive to Madrid but it seems like there is not much going on there.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 24, 2013, 12:12:21 PM
Actually what I am planning on doing is flying into Lisbon from Newark and connecting later that day (Monday) to Casablanca Morroco.
Will spend week between Fez, Marrakech and Casablanca and Friday I plan on flying to AGP, Malaga, Spain. Will do Shabbos in Gibraltar and then trying to piece together the next week. I could probably spend a day or 2 in Gibraltar and coste de Sol as you guys are reccomending. Thing is I have another full week afterwards that I can spend in the region.

I was going to drive to Madrid but it seems like there is not much going on there.

I would probably do the Alhambra in Granada - from what I am told it is really an awesome sight.   I was not in Barcelona either, but I hear it is also a beautiful city if you like architecture. 

I really enjoyed a day in Sevilla and a day in Cordoba to see what there is there.  If you end up in Madrid, I suggest taking a day/part day trip to Toledo to see the sights there.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 24, 2013, 07:22:31 PM
Thanks for all the help with Spain guys. The craziest thing happened to me, we were planning on going  to Bali this summer but could not find anything open in Biz class. Also we are taking a baby which makes it harder. Last night my wife changed her mind and said she would rather go to Bali instead of Spain and with great luck I got 2 seats NYC - PEK direct in biz. Got all the flights in Biz and we are booked for Bali!

After looking into Spain though it is on my list now. Think I will do it on the way to Israel next time I go, so thanks for the pointers.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 24, 2013, 07:24:07 PM
Thanks for all the help with Spain guys. The craziest thing happened to me, we were planning on going  to Bali this summer but could not find anything open in Biz class. Also we are taking a baby which makes it harder. Last night my wife changed her mind and said she would rather go to Bali instead of Spain and with great luck I got 2 seats NYC - PEK direct in biz. Got all the flights in Biz and we are booked for Bali!

After looking into Spain though it is on my list now. Think I will do it on the way to Israel next time I go, so thanks for the pointers.

Nice! Glad it worked out.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 24, 2013, 08:45:31 PM
Nice! Glad it worked out.
Thanks! it's such a good feeling having it booked after looking at tickets since February  :)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on May 29, 2013, 03:23:15 AM
Need some help for a friend , wants fly from newark to barcelona , has miles on all the 3 alliances --- any flights none stop ? if so , who offers them -thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 29, 2013, 03:37:51 AM
Need some help for a friend , wants fly from newark to barcelona , has miles on all the 3 alliances --- any flights none stop ? if so , who offers them -thanks

From EWR-BCN it looks like only United. From JFK-BCN you have either Delta or American. There may be more but thats just my quick look.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on May 29, 2013, 03:56:00 AM
From EWR-BCN it looks like only United. From JFK-BCN you have either Delta or American. There may be more but thats just my quick look.

Thanks chuck-- i put a few dates in on united  site  but could not find any none stop flights

any place can find a  free search engine that is not connected to selling seats ?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 29, 2013, 04:44:52 AM
Thanks chuck-- i put a few dates in on united  site  but could not find any none stop flights

any place can find a  free search engine that is not connected to selling seats ?

If you want, PM me details of your planned itinerary and ill see what i can find.

Also, for finding an award ticket you might have better luck here - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on June 01, 2013, 10:44:06 PM
I'm trying to plan a trip to Spain in August for about 10 days. I've been reading all the recommendations here - thanks! Does anyone have an actual itinerary they can post?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on June 01, 2013, 10:48:52 PM
I'm trying to plan a trip to Spain in August for about 10 days. I've been reading all the recommendations here - thanks! Does anyone have an actual itinerary they can post?

I did:

Madrid
Toledo
Cordoba
Grenada
Malaga (not worth it as MIA beach is nicer)
BCN
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on June 01, 2013, 10:58:21 PM
Thanks!
No Gibraltar I see...
And how did you get from place to place?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on June 01, 2013, 11:05:52 PM
Thanks!
No Gibraltar I see...
And how did you get from place to place?

MAD - Toledo train every hour RT toledo is enough for one day
MAD-Cordoba fast train
Cordoba - granda bus
Granada - malaga bus
Malaga -BCN plane with vueling cheap airline

From what I hear Gibralter nothing to see other then a rock and it is very expensive.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on June 01, 2013, 11:20:57 PM
MAD - Toledo train every hour RT toledo is enough for one day
MAD-Cordoba fast train
Cordoba - granda bus
Granada - malaga bus
Malaga -BCN plane with vueling cheap airline

From what I hear Gibralter nothing to see other then a rock and it is very expensive.
Thanks- this is very helpful.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on June 01, 2013, 11:21:22 PM
Any recommendations for Shabbos other than Gibraltar?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on June 01, 2013, 11:37:42 PM
Any recommendations for Shabbos other than Gibraltar?

BCN has chabad
MAD has a semi proper jewish community including a kosher resturaunt
Malaga has a seasonal chabad house so call up a head of time.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on June 01, 2013, 11:48:19 PM
BCN has chabad
MAD has a semi proper jewish community including a kosher resturaunt
Malaga has a seasonal chabad house so call up a head of time.
Where did you stay for Shabbos?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on June 01, 2013, 11:52:00 PM
Can anyone give more details about a day trip to Tangiers, Morocco?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 02, 2013, 03:46:10 AM
i went
Barcelona with day trip to Girona
Madrid with day trip to Toledo
Lisbon
Gibraltar for shabbos
Tangier
then based myself in Malaga and did day trips to Granada, Cordoba, Marbella, Torremolinos

according to the chabad rabbi, restauarant in Madrid should be avoided. Current as of Summer 2009
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 02, 2013, 03:54:11 AM
Was Tangier interesting? How much time do you need there?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 02, 2013, 04:04:07 AM
Was Tangier interesting? How much time do you need there?
yes it was interesting. i made it into a day trip, but some spend the night
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 02, 2013, 04:28:33 AM
yes it was interesting. i made it into a day trip, but some spend the night

What are the main attractions there?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 02, 2013, 06:28:56 AM
What are the main attractions there?
basically the shuls and the 'kasbah'. there was also a museum but i got there after it already closed. i believe you can also see snake charmers
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on June 02, 2013, 07:58:13 AM
Trying to plan a trip from EWR or PHL , to BCN or if need be  FCO  for sister next year -- she can not walk very much and will require a wheelchair , therefor connecting flights are out of the question( pride!), and JFK is a 3 hour taxi ride  -- i see almost no Biz class with  Star alliance ( a few days with U S AIR) never with United saver --- Oneworld  only none stop from jfk --- have looked  far out to get an idea of availability looks like mission imposable --- anyone have any ideas ?-- thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on June 02, 2013, 10:20:32 AM
according to the chabad rabbi, restauarant in Madrid should be avoided. Current as of Summer 2009
As a supporter of several chabad houses sometime, the place or city is NOT  about Chabad but the character of the Chabad indivual Rabbi's personal personality ,ve hamayven yavin!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 02, 2013, 10:37:57 AM
As a supporter of several chabad houses sometime, the place or city is NOT  about Chabad but the character of the Chabad indivual Rabbi's personal personality ,ve hamayven yavin!
please explain
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on June 02, 2013, 10:45:47 AM
please explain

I believe it is more politcal then kashrus, I have spoken with MAD community members about this.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 02, 2013, 10:51:23 AM
I believe it is more politcal then kashrus, I have spoken with MAD community members about this.
obviously the community members will defend themselves, the more important question is if you spoke with the chabad rabbi about this.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 02, 2013, 01:28:00 PM
Any recommendations for Shabbos other than Gibraltar?

I did MAD, Toledo part day trip, Cordoba, Sevilla, Gib for Shabbos.  I may have some details from my itinerary still. Send me a PM and I will try to check on my saved trip files later today.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Sammy12345 on June 08, 2013, 04:10:51 PM
Are the beaches in Spain anything to WOW about?
Any recommendation on hotels i prefer SPG property...
TIA
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 08, 2013, 04:21:34 PM
Are the beaches in Spain anything to WOW about?
Any recommendation on hotels i prefer SPG property...
TIA
i very much enjoyed the westin in madrid
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on June 08, 2013, 04:25:08 PM
Trying to plan a trip from EWR or PHL , to BCN or if need be  FCO  for sister next year -- she can not walk very much and will require a wheelchair , therefor connecting flights are out of the question( pride!), and JFK is a 3 hour taxi ride  -- i see almost no Biz class with  Star alliance ( a few days with U S AIR) never with United saver --- Oneworld  only none stop from jfk --- have looked  far out to get an idea of availability looks like mission imposable --- anyone have any ideas ?-- thanks

Bump  does anyone fly from ewr none stop to fco
          does anyone fly from ewr none stop to bcn
          does anyone fly from phl none stop to bcn
            does anyone fly from phl none stop to fco
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: YankyDoodle on July 05, 2013, 05:14:15 PM
My wife and I went on a 10 day jaunt through Europe. We flew United Business/First (and their partners) for 200k miles.
Our first stop was Barcelona which we stayed in for just under 24 hours (in order to take advantage of United's layover policy). I will attempt to post London, Paris and Venice threads when the time presents itself!

We landed in Barcelona at around 3:00PM on a fast day (17 Tammuz). We took the metro/bus everywhere which we found to be fairly convenient (as it is throughout most of Europe). We went directly from the airport (BCN) to La Rambla. La Rambla is simply awesome. While quite touristy it manages to feel authentic because of it's unique hometown charm. The center of La Rambla is a stunning area filled with sculptures and gorgeous fountains. Walking down the street you pass by all sorts of stands and stores, but the really cool part is cutting through the alleys that run randomly throughout La Rambla. There is a very fun feel to the whole area and definitely somewhere I would consider staying for a longer time.

After a couple of hours in La Rambla we continued on to our hotel at the Four Seasons by Sheraton. It was decent if unmemorable but for $75 I can't really complain. On a whim I called the Chabad Shliach to inquire about kosher food and it turns out that a new restaurant opened around Pesach time. Shalom restaurant is located at 75 La Rambla and we hit it up to break our fast. The service was fair and the food was good (not great) but in a city with no other truly kosher options it was a welcome treat. It is under the hashgacha of the Chabad Shliach and uses "chassidishe shchita.". The tapas are interesting and unique to Spanish cuisine (spicy potato was delicious) and the pesto pasta was quite good as well.

Barcelona is known for its pristine beaches and when we went the next morning it did not disappoint. It wasn't hot enough to go in the water but just sitting and reading on the beach made it worthwhile. When we returned to the hotel we found out that it was actually a nude beach (which apparently is pretty common in Europe) but at 7AM there weren't any other beachgoers there yet! We then went to Park Guell to see some Gaudi architecture.  The entire city has impressive architecture (including random stores, banks and hotels) but Park Guell is supposedly breathtaking. WARNING: There are more stairs than you can imagine, so it is not advisable to attempt to do Park Guell with any sort of luggage. My wife and I decided to travel very lightly with only one carry-on and 2 backpacks and we struggled mightily to enjoy ourselves. There are escalators going up towards the park (which in middle of an open street is quite a sight) but many are broken and none coming back down. We ended up getting to the top and opting to see some of the buildings from a distance as even once you reach the park it is a serious hike to get anywhere near them. We arrived back at the airport in time to hit up the lounge and catch our 2:45PM flight to London. It may have been as a result of it being our first stop in Europe but Barcelona was the most intriguing city we visited.

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2013, 05:21:13 PM
Great start, thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on July 07, 2013, 02:06:53 AM
Good news about the kosher restaurant and thanks for the TR.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on July 09, 2013, 08:41:37 AM
Will post my 8 day TR in Spain shortly but just to add there are 2 other KOSHER restaurants in Barcelona one milchig one fleishig both far superior to shalom in kashrut service and in food
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: YankyDoodle on July 09, 2013, 11:08:56 AM
Will post my 8 day TR in Spain shortly but just to add there are 2 other KOSHER restaurants in Barcelona one milchig one fleishig both far superior to shalom in kashrut service and in food

Can't wait to read it. What is the hashgacha on the other 2 restaurants? From what it seemed (and I did not do very thorough research at all) those were not necessarily reliable but I could definitely be mistaken.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on July 09, 2013, 01:23:09 PM
Can't wait to read it. What is the hashgacha on the other 2 restaurants? From what it seemed (and I did not do very thorough research at all) those were not necessarily reliable but I could definitely be mistaken.
It's not so exciting was a very laid back expensive trip with not much planning beforehand. It is under the Chief Rabbi of Barcelona we spoke to the Mashgiach there (Israeli middle aged guy white shirt yarlmuka tzitzis and quite knowledgeable) and were very impressed how the kitchen called him out to bring wine to costumers and things like that. As opposed to shalom where the mashgiach was a young chabadnik from Argentina who was much less impressionable and seemed more involved on what was going on outside then inside
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on July 09, 2013, 02:57:33 PM
What are the main attractions there?
So whats your trip itinerary
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 09, 2013, 03:09:00 PM
So whats your trip itinerary

Going to be based near Mijas for eight nights, then in Gibraltar for two. In spain I'll probably be at the pool most of the time, but I might do some trips (Seville, Granada..)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on July 09, 2013, 03:21:48 PM
Going to be based near Mijas for eight nights, then in Gibraltar for two. In spain I'll probably be at the pool most of the time, but I might do some trips (Seville, Granada..)
Marbella and Puerta Banus are gorgeous and 4500 IB Avios you can fly to BCN which is also unbelievable. The driving in Gibraltar is worse than Bais Yisroel
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Sammy12345 on July 12, 2013, 07:27:47 AM
Does anyone know how reliable the kosher restaurants in Barcelona are?
And is the milk in Spain kosher (for a baby)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on July 12, 2013, 07:43:55 AM
Does anyone know how reliable the kosher restaurants in Barcelona are?
And is the milk in Spain kosher (for a baby)
The milk you get in the grocery store is the kind the doesn't need to be kept in the fridge I'm not sure what it's called,
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on July 12, 2013, 09:14:08 AM
Does anyone know how reliable the kosher restaurants in Barcelona are?
And is the milk in Spain kosher (for a baby)
2 of them are under the chief rabbi of barcelona we found the mashgiach quite knowledgeable and competent the other one is under chabad (or Jabad) ALOR
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Sammy12345 on July 13, 2013, 06:31:27 PM
2 of them are under the chief rabbi of barcelona we found the mashgiach quite knowledgeable and competent the other one is under chabad (or Jabad) ALOR
Would you know anything about the milk? Bec I am planning on freezing milk and bringing it if there isnt any there (i need it for my kid)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on July 13, 2013, 07:08:55 PM
Would you know anything about the milk? Bec I am planning on freezing milk and bringing it if there isnt any there (i need it for my kid)
We didn't drink any milk but as DrDanny pointed out we saw in the kosher grocery some made powder milk of some sort that didn't need refrigeration
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 13, 2013, 08:27:19 PM
or buy shelf milk.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on October 08, 2013, 09:14:58 PM
anyone do spain in the winter?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: daganster on October 09, 2013, 06:24:31 PM
anyone do spain in the winter?
I spent a month in Barcelona in the winter a couple of years back. If you're asking about the weather it's quite mild.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on October 10, 2013, 06:25:54 AM
anyone do spain in the winter?

i just came back from spain
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on February 22, 2014, 09:29:01 PM
Probably Malaga on the beach

What do you think of Madrid relative to Malaga (for 2 days)? Which one would have more/better kosher food?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 22, 2014, 09:34:00 PM
What do you think of Madrid relative to Malaga (for 2 days)? Which one would have more/better kosher food?
Madrid definitely for kosher food. But Malaga has a beautiful beach
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 22, 2014, 10:59:20 PM
Madrid definitely for kosher food. But Malaga has a beautiful beach
what kosher food options are in madrid?

i would say malaga based on my experience a while back
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 22, 2014, 11:13:41 PM
what kosher food options are in madrid?

i would say malaga based on my experience a while back
There are two meat restaurants there
Naomi grill and La Escudilla
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 23, 2014, 04:51:03 AM
There are two meat restaurants there
Naomi grill and La Escudilla
when i was there back in 2009, the chabad rabbi told us to avoid the local hashgacha. things might have changed.

all i remember was that we were hungry, while in malaga, you can go to torremolinos 15 min ride away with meat restaurant, pizza store and amazing market, cask & kash with its extensive butcher shop
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on February 23, 2014, 07:23:29 AM

when i was there back in 2009, the chabad rabbi told us to avoid the local hashgacha. things might have changed.

all i remember was that we were hungry, while in malaga, you can go to torremolinos 15 min ride away with meat restaurant, pizza store and amazing market, cask & kash with its extensive butcher shop

Did you drive there, cab or bus?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 23, 2014, 07:26:18 AM
Did you drive there, cab or bus?
drive, its a must for south of spain
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on February 23, 2014, 01:53:42 PM
It seems to me that most of the kosher options are in Torremolinos? If so, why don't people choose a hotel in Torremolinos rather than the places further north?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 25, 2014, 12:34:51 PM
After reading through a lot of this thread, it seems like if you're planning to visit MAD/BCN there aren't really that many things to do. A few parks, a few Shuls (which are not even in MAD but are in Toledo). I'm planning a Eurotrip this summer and Spain was going to be part of it, but now I'm not sure it's worth spending time there instead of having longer stays in other places like Paris/London/Rome/Venice. Can I hear thoughts on this? Maybe someone else who has done a few European countries including Spain?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 25, 2014, 12:47:41 PM
After reading through a lot of this thread, it seems like if you're planning to visit MAD/BCN there aren't really that many things to do. A few parks, a few Shuls (which are not even in MAD but are in Toledo). I'm planning a Eurotrip this summer and Spain was going to be part of it, but now I'm not sure it's worth spending time there instead of having longer stays in other places like Paris/London/Rome/Venice. Can I hear thoughts on this? Maybe someone else who has done a few European countries including Spain?

There are other cities besides MAD/BCN. Seville, Granada (the Alhambra), Cordoba, Gibraltar, Torremolinos, Marbella. If you do it right, you can see many things and it is really easy to get around by train/car (at least I found it was when I did a trip there).

Doesn't mean it is the right trip for you, but there is definitely what to do on a trip to Spain IMHO.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 25, 2014, 05:58:15 PM
There are other cities besides MAD/BCN. Seville, Granada (the Alhambra), Cordoba, Gibraltar, Torremolinos, Marbella. If you do it right, you can see many things and it is really easy to get around by train/car (at least I found it was when I did a trip there).

Doesn't mean it is the right trip for you, but there is definitely what to do on a trip to Spain IMHO.

So what do you think about spending 4 days in Spain. Can you do more than just Madrid and Barcelona, or do you really need more time to do more than that?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 25, 2014, 06:05:39 PM
So what do you think about spending 4 days in Spain. Can you do more than just Madrid and Barcelona, or do you really need more time to do more than that?

I think it depends on what you want to do. Toledo is great for a half day trip from MAD. In MAD you can do the Prado if you like art and the palace, among a few other sites (i.e., Retiro Park is really beautiful to spend some time in).

Seville has the Alcazar (smaller version of the Alhambra) and a great town area, along with a river cruise if you want. Granada has the Alhambra. Cordoba has the old Rambam statue and shul. The mezquita is an attraction (ask your LOR if you can go in or not, as I have heard different psaks from different rabbonim).

Costa del sol (Torremolinos, Marbella) is great for beaching.

Gibraltar is a great place for Shabbos.

I would say you don't need more than a day or so in each of the cities, but remember travel time also to factor in. I didn't get to BCN at all, so I can't comment on it, other than that I have heard it is a beautiful city (and nicer than MAD), but it really depends on what you want to focus on seeing when in Spain. In terms of the beach cities, that just depends on how long you want to stay for.

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on March 25, 2014, 06:17:27 PM
I was in BCN twice and once to MAD,GIB, Marbella. I love BCN gorgeous city with fantastic architecture, beautiful views and lots to do. Marbella is a really nice beach town not too busy with nice hotels for decent price. GIB is a must, a wonderful Shabbos experience.
I plan on going back to Spain for my honeymoon this summer
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 25, 2014, 07:29:23 PM
Thanks guys for your advice! Maybe I will save Spain for a future trip.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: YankyDoodle on March 25, 2014, 08:03:09 PM
I'm planning a Eurotrip this summer and Spain was going to be part of it, but now I'm not sure it's worth spending time there instead of having longer stays in other places like Paris/London/Rome/Venice. Can I hear thoughts on this? Maybe someone else who has done a few European countries including Spain?
Are you planning on flying from country to country or doing a train? My wife and I flew between each country. We did 1 day BCN, 1 day LHR, 5 days CDG and 3 days VCE. Wouldn't change a thing. 1 day in Barcelona was just enough time to see the beautiful architecture and hit up the beach plus La Rambla IMO. I would skip Park Guell in hindsight. Great city, and perfect way to start off a Europe trip!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on March 25, 2014, 08:08:57 PM
Are you planning on flying from country to country or doing a train? My wife and I flew between each country. We did 1 day BCN, 1 day LHR, 5 days CDG and 3 days VCE. Wouldn't change a thing. 1 day in Barcelona was just enough time to see the beautiful architecture and hit up the beach plus La Rambla IMO. I would skip Park Guell in hindsight. Great city, and perfect way to start off a Europe trip!
I loved Park Guell and the W there is just WOW
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 25, 2014, 09:30:03 PM
Are you planning on flying from country to country or doing a train? My wife and I flew between each country. We did 1 day BCN, 1 day LHR, 5 days CDG and 3 days VCE. Wouldn't change a thing. 1 day in Barcelona was just enough time to see the beautiful architecture and hit up the beach plus La Rambla IMO. I would skip Park Guell in hindsight. Great city, and perfect way to start off a Europe trip!

Thanks! Flying. Train hopefully only within Italy. Been working here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=37776.0). So I've actually been working on my dates and looks like we might actually have enough time for a decent 4-5 day stay in Spain. Reconsidering this now.
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Post by: smart brit on March 25, 2014, 10:50:21 PM
Thanks! Flying. Train hopefully only within Italy. Been working here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=37776.0). So I've actually been working on my dates and looks like we might actually have enough time for a decent 4-5 day stay in Spain. Reconsidering this now.
I don't know what you are looking for but in Spain you have malga and mallorca both stunning beaches and lively cities
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on March 26, 2014, 01:32:01 AM
Spain trip report:
We spent 8 days in Spain in January. We took food along and got kosher food in GIB and Barcelona. We used public transportation, but renting a car would have been much easier and is definitely doable in southern Spain.  Although Spain is full of Jewish history, very little remains to actually visit and see today. I highly recommend Rick Steve’s guide books. He gives tons of great information and recommendations, and we used his self guided walking tours in every city we visited. Beware: Theft and pick pocketing is widespread in many areas in Spain, particularly in Barcelona.
We arrived in Madrid Sunday afternoon and stayed until Tuesday morning. We stayed in the Hotel Regina, which I HIGHLY RECOMMEND- great location and price.
Madrid  - Royal Palace, walked around the old city, the Prado and Reina Sofia (art museums)– both had free entry in the evening. Unfortunately, we were unable to go to Toledo, which is only a short train ride from Madrid.
We took the train from Madrid to Cordoba on Tuesday morning. We spent the day there and then continued on the train to Seville in the evening. The regional train is only a slightly longer ride than the express and was significantly cheaper.
Cordoba – old shul, Jewish museum, the old palace/fort was not very impressive and could be skipped IMO, we did not go inside the Mezquita
Seville – We stayed in the Hotel Derby: pretty could location, clean, cheap. It was outside of the old city center. We walked around the old Jewish quarter, visited the Alcazar (palace) – it was magnificent! We also went to see a flamenco show in a bar – the show was free, we just needed to pay for a drink which was not too difficult! Seville is a beautiful city to just walk around, explore, and visit the shops selling authentic goods.
Granada – We took a long bus ride to Granada on Thursday morning. We visited the Alhambra palace. We booked our tickets online in advance, which is recommended; entry is timed so plan accordingly. We also went to a relatively new Jewish museum in the city that was quite interesting and watched sunset from a hill overlooking the palace and city. We took another long bus ride to Algeciras and from there a taxi to the border of Gibralatar (about 20 min).
Gibraltar – It was quite hard to get to GIB by public transportation but was well worth it! We stayed in the Elliott. Although it's not really worth the money you'll pay, it's very close to the shuls and kosher places. We booked on their website and got a decent rate with wifi included. On Friday, we took the cable car to the top of the rock and hiked down. The views were spectacular and the monkeys were crazy! We did not get proper directions for hiking down and ended up on the restricted path – we had to climb over a fence at one point and walked past an area that looked like it was prone to falling rocks, so just beware. We were hosted by locals for both Shabbos meals. We checked out 3 shuls over Shabbos, all very beautiful and old. All in all, GIB was an incredible experience.
Barcelona – We hired someone to drive us from GIB to Malaga on Sunday morning, where we took a Vueling flight to Barcelona. We stayed in the Hotel Flor Parks – the room was tiny and smelled from smoke, but the location was right on the Ramblas and it was quite cheap. Barcelona is a really cool, interesting city. There are some Kosher restaurants there, 2 on the same block of the Ramblas.
Sites: The Ramblas, Gothic Quarter (Old Jewish quarter), Picasso Museum, old shul, waterfront/harbor, Gaudi sites, Park Guell, Sagrada Familia (we just checked out the exterior)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: HP58 on March 26, 2014, 02:56:03 AM
Nice TR. planning a trip in the summer this should come in handy!
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SLP on March 26, 2014, 10:33:38 AM

If I'm in GIB for Shabbos and want to leave Sunday and get to Madrid to catch my next flight to Italy, how do I best go GIB-MAD?
Probably take a flight from Malaga, which would be quickest. I'm not sure of the train/bus options.
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Post by: Ergel on March 26, 2014, 10:40:23 AM
Nice TR. Wasn't worth it to rent a car between all the trains/buses/driver that you took?
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Post by: SamKey on March 26, 2014, 12:44:44 PM
Thanks for the ideas guys, I'm getting more and more into Spain. :)

If I'm in GIB for Shabbos and want to leave Sunday and get to Madrid to catch my next flight to Italy, how do I best go GIB-MAD?
We did RT rental from Malaga you can book a flight Malaga-MAD 4.5k Avios but we took a train
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 26, 2014, 12:54:11 PM
I know it's tempting to try to fit in as many places as possible when you have the chance but I did a similar trip several years back and it was exhausting.  There were many things that we did not get to see and I feel we sacrificed some of the experience just so we could check off more places on the list.
Then again, it's all personal preference.
I definitely hear you.
We did RT rental from Malaga you can book a flight Malaga-MAD 4.5k Avios but we took a train
Good idea! Do BA Avios work on IB flights?
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 26, 2014, 12:57:24 PM
Do BA Avios work on IB flights?
Why wouldn't they  ???
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 26, 2014, 01:07:29 PM
Why wouldn't they  ???
Obviously DROPR, but they once told me BA Avios don't equal IB Avios. Although, I guess both statements can be true. They're not the same currency, but BA could still work to book IB.

I was just curious, but either way, I would go AGP-MAD as part of my OWE. Problem is my recent AA rep was having problems ticketing the OWE, saying her supervisor told her they don't do those awards anymore, but I should call back tomorrow. Either that's bad news for my trip or we're back to DROPR...
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 23, 2014, 11:54:48 PM
Have my dates booked for Spain!
Read through the thread once again and want to run a basic itinerary by you guys. All advice welcome :)

I'm in:
MAD for 1 day
BCN for 2 days
SVQ for 1/2 day
Friday split between SVQ and driving to GIB
Shabbos in GIB

So, here are my plans and some questions...

In MAD, I want to go to Toledo. Seems like I can either pay 200-400€ for a tour or 10€ pax for the train ride and go find the 2 Shuls myself. Feeling a pull towards the latter. Now, my Q is, if I'm waking up in MAD (I already have a hotel) and have to catch an 8PM flight, (1) can I see Toledo and also get to see something in MAD like the Royal Palace? If yes, (2) will the Palace be open in the afternoon/evening or should I do it first in the morning and then go to Toledo? (I also can take a 9:45PM flight instead, but it's not ideal as it will get me to my next stop pretty late.)

For BCN, seems like La Rambla (+nearby restaurants), Park Guell, and Casa Milla are popular things to do, and they all seem to be in the same category or attraction. (3) Can they all be done in 1 day? I'd also like to do the walking tour of the old Jewish quarter. Perhaps that can be day 2, but I doubt it would fill up the day. Summarizing everyone's TRs the other interesting things to do are: beaches, Gothic quarter, Montjuic, Sagrada Familia (seeing, not entering). (4) Do any of those things make sense to do with the Jewish quarter/does this 2-day breakdown make sense? (5) Where do I want to stay location-wise? Forget the type of hotel, where do I want to be located? Near the airport, La Ramblas, Jewish quarter, etc.?

I arrive in SVQ in the early afternoon. Seems like the things to do there are the Alcazar, maybe a river cruise. (6) Can I get to Alcazar in the afternoon? I plan on renting a car the next morning (Friday) and driving to GIB. If you suggest doing something in Seville I may be missing, I can do it in the morning and then go to GIB in the late morning. (7) Where do I want to stay? Near airport, Alcazar?

In GIB, I want to see The Rock and perhaps the dolphin boat tour or the caves, depending on how much time there is till Shabbos. On Shabbos, I would visit the different Shuls. I should hopefully have a place to stay by someone I know who lives there. Motzai Shabbos, I'd drive back to SVQ, find a hotel near the airport to catch my ex-Spain flight out in the morning.

Feel free to answer the specific Q's or just give your thoughts in general. That would rock! Thanks.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on April 24, 2014, 12:42:59 AM
In bcn if you have the points if stay at the w simply fantastic or on the ramblas rent mopeds/scooters best and easiest way to get around and everyone is driving them. What about picaso museum?
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Post by: @Yehuda on April 24, 2014, 08:16:47 AM
In bcn if you have the points if stay at the w simply fantastic or on the ramblas rent mopeds/scooters best and easiest way to get around and everyone is driving them. What about picaso museum?
Don't have the points. I decided to split up my SPG to get more nights out of them rather than use em up a fancy place. Is it easy to pick up how to drive a scooter? Neither of us are really artsy. I took a look at some pics of it on Google and I don't think we would enjoy it much.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on April 24, 2014, 08:33:59 AM
Don't know the answer to any of your questions but your itinerary seems very rushed to me. Sit back and relax a little bit
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Post by: sky121 on April 24, 2014, 08:47:30 AM
Don't know the answer to any of your questions but your itinerary seems very rushed to me. Sit back and relax a little bit

+1
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 24, 2014, 09:21:13 AM
Don't know the answer to any of your questions but your itinerary seems very rushed to me. Sit back and relax a little bit
I'll admit I've never booked a trip before, but you really think it's rushed?

1 day in MAD - see the Palace in the morning and then visit Toledo (a 1/2 hour train ride) and catch the late evening flight out.
2 days in BCN - La Rambla, Casa Mila, and Park Guell are all within 20 minutes of each other. 2-3 hours per each and it's still not 5 o'clock. Day 2, Tour the Jewish city and do 1 other attraction doesn't seem like a lot either.
1/2 day in SVQ - Alcazar is just 1 attraction.
1/2 day in GIB - The Rock and if there's time, do 1 more attraction.

Really doesn't seem like a lot here.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 24, 2014, 09:34:05 AM
Everyone travels differently. I love getting to spend time in cities and really getting a feel for the place. Don't you want time to just be? Get lost? Find places that weren't on your itinerary?
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 24, 2014, 09:47:26 AM
Everyone travels differently. I love getting to spend time in cities and really getting a feel for the place. Don't you want time to just be? Get lost? Find places that weren't on your itinerary?
I can tell we're different lol. I'm kinda an OCD guy and need a plan. I would be afraid that if I just showed up in BCN for 2 days, we would slouch at the hotel till noon and then walk outside and perhaps not get to see any of the "touristy" things. People may not always be fans of touristy things, but that's kinda what I want to see. Sure I can walk around and watch the culture, but if I was visiting NYC for the first and probably only time, I think I would want to ensure seeing the Empire State Building and Lady Liberty. I'll catch the crazy atmosphere just travelling to my stops.
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Post by: sky121 on April 24, 2014, 09:57:16 AM
I can tell we're different lol. I'm kinda an OCD guy and need a plan. I would be afraid that if I just showed up in BCN for 2 days, we would slouch at the hotel till noon and then walk outside and perhaps not get to see any of the "touristy" things. People may not always be fans of touristy things, but that's kinda what I want to see. Sure I can walk around and watch the culture, but if I was visiting NYC for the first and probably only time, I think I would want to ensure seeing the Empire State Building and Lady Liberty. I'll catch the crazy atmosphere just travelling to my stops.

That's fine. Def makes sense.  But it still doesn't seem to be giving you much time. Especially when you're going on a long adventure. It seems like you'll just be running from one place to the next.  And I am generally a planner as well. Nothing wrong with planning but doesn't mean you have to rush.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 24, 2014, 10:03:59 AM
That's fine. Def makes sense.  But it still doesn't seem to be giving you much time. Especially when you're going on a long adventure. It seems like you'll just be running from one place to the next.  And I am generally a planner as well. Nothing wrong with planning but doesn't mean you have to rush.
Right I understand. I also just realized as I looked over my travel dates that Spain is really the only place I was stingy on time. Spain was not at the top of my list, so when I did decide to include it, I wanted to really just hit the basics. As opposed to other cities like Venice, Rome, Paris and London where I am staying longer than most people suggested. In those cities (my top cities), I'll have time for plenty of strolling/chilling. It's really mostly Spain that will be rushed.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on April 24, 2014, 01:16:06 PM
I can tell we're different lol. I'm kinda an OCD guy and need a plan. I would be afraid that if I just showed up in BCN for 2 days, we would slouch at the hotel till noon and then walk outside and perhaps not get to see any of the "touristy" things. People may not always be fans of touristy things, but that's kinda what I want to see. Sure I can walk around and watch the culture, but if I was visiting NYC for the first and probably only time, I think I would want to ensure seeing the Empire State Building and Lady Liberty. I'll catch the crazy atmosphere just travelling to my stops.
Not really. My itinerary in the UK was
London (thursday night to saturday night)
Lake district (sunday)
Isle of Skye (Monday)
Highlands (tuesday-wednesday)
Edinburgh (wednesday night (the fringe) and thursday)

Here's the map https://goo.gl/maps/ArrsK

Just that I traveled at night and had whole days at each place. Traveling on a friday means it's a travel day and nothing else. Taking a flight at 6 PM means you have to start heading to the airport at 3:30/4 and have to start heading back to your hotel earlier than that.
It's about managing your travel and desire to see different things with not being constantly traveling
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 24, 2014, 01:20:08 PM
Not really. My itinerary in the UK was
London (thursday night to saturday night)
Lake district (sunday)
Isle of Skye (Monday)
Highlands (tuesday-wednesday)
Edinburgh (wednesday night (the fringe) and thursday)

Just that I traveled at night and had whole days at each place. Traveling on a friday means it's a travel day and nothing else. Taking a flight at 6 PM means you have to start heading to the airport at 3:30/4 and have to start heading back to your hotel earlier than that.
It's about managing your travel and desire to see different things with not being constantly traveling
Not sure what exactly you're responding to...? (even though you quoted me)
European Fridays in the summer are so long that I think I can travel in the morning + do something at the destination. And yes, for the early evening flights, I counted those days as only 1/2 a day. I understand and again, for some locations, the goal was not to relax but to see what there is to see and move on. For the more exciting locations, the plan is to chill a bit more.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on April 24, 2014, 01:31:16 PM
Not sure what exactly you're responding to...? (even though you quoted me)
European Fridays in the summer are so long that I think I can travel in the morning + do something at the destination. And yes, for the early evening flights, I counted those days as only 1/2 a day. I understand and again, for some locations, the goal was not to relax but to see what there is to see and move on. For the more exciting locations, the plan is to chill a bit more.
My bad. I thought the quote I quoted was a response to me.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 24, 2014, 01:33:30 PM
My bad. I thought the quote I quoted was a response to me.
Oh well I guess it was aimed at both of you. You both suggested I was rushing things, which I guess it does seem like that. Although as I explained here
I also just realized as I looked over my travel dates that Spain is really the only place I was stingy on time. Spain was not at the top of my list, so when I did decide to include it, I wanted to really just hit the basics. As opposed to other cities like Venice, Rome, Paris and London where I am staying longer than most people suggested. In those cities (my top cities), I'll have time for plenty of strolling/chilling. It's really mostly Spain that will be rushed.
I think it's okay to be "rushing" Spain. Additionally, doing 2-3 things a day doesn't seem to be too rushing to me.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on April 24, 2014, 01:46:24 PM
Oh well I guess it was aimed at both of you. You both suggested I was rushing things, which I guess it does seem like that. Although as I explained hereI think it's okay to be "rushing" Spain. Additionally, doing 2-3 things a day doesn't seem to be too rushing to me.
Things take longer than you plan. It just seems to me you may be halfway through the week and realize you haven't done much other than travel from place to place
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 24, 2014, 01:49:02 PM
Things take longer than you plan. It just seems to me you may be halfway through the week and realize you haven't done much other than travel from place to place
Well, I knew the whole time that Spain was going to have a lot of travelling in it. It'll be a rough/busy week, but think should settle down a bit after.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on April 24, 2014, 03:23:10 PM
I took an overnight bus(about 6 hrs) from Madrid to la linea( adjacent to gibraltar ) for about 25-30 euro. The company was called daibus. It was very nice bus with outlets and all no bathroom but they stopped at some rest stops along the way. Was very cheap and definitely worth it. Although we were a couple of guys. Can't see anyone with children hacking it.
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Post by: @Yehuda on April 24, 2014, 07:21:28 PM
Any ideas for a private beach/pool in Barcelona?
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Post by: gubevo18 on April 27, 2014, 04:06:00 PM
Anybody have an idea how much time I should give myself to go I Toledo and back from Madrid? I have a short stop in madrid and I have already been there for a couple of days but I didn't do Toledo.
Also anybody have any updated info on restaurants in Madrid? Kashrus?
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 27, 2014, 04:11:07 PM
Anybody have an idea how much time I should give myself to go I Toledo and back from Madrid? I have a short stop in madrid and I have already been there for a couple of days but I didn't do Toledo.
Also anybody have any updated info on restaurants in Madrid? Kashrus?
From my research, MAD-Atocha (the train station) is 15 minutes, and the train to Toledo is 33 minutes. The Jewish area is a few minutes cab ride from the train station. So, I would give 2 hours for the travelling. I would imagine to see the 2 Shuls and the (1?) museum (which is closed on Mondays, btw) would probably take 2-3 hours, for a total of a 4-5 hour trip.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on May 07, 2014, 03:02:04 PM
Thanks! Did you have a tour guide? Or just walked through it yourself?
Walked through ourselves
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 08, 2014, 04:25:19 PM
Just booked train tickets RT Madrid-Toledo.
I found a report (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g187514-c80518/Madrid:Spain:Buying.Renfe.Tickets.Online.html) on TA how to book tickets directly from Spain's train company, Renfe.com. This report (which was a bit too verbose), as well as others I Googled, warned that booking tickets from Renfe.com is very hard, often gets declined on the payment page, but will come without the booking fee that other sites, like RailEurope, charge. (RailEurope had a 16 eur fee.)
It took me about 5 attempts to finally book. My main takeaways from this purchasing experience:
1) Spanish version of the site - the report said to stick with the Spanish site. When I tried English, it switched back to Spanish after the booking page anyway. Follow the steps of this report or others in Google to help navigate the Spanish forms. I used Google Translate to see what specific lines meant. You will need to enter your passport number, but I would imagine you could make it up. (I wasn't going to play any games with it, though.)
2) Internet Explorer  - the report said IE is the best for this site. Everything seemed to work just fine in Chrome, but the payment wouldn't go through. (Was that Chrome's fault, Renfe's fault, or the CC's fault? Who knows?)
3) MasterCard - the report said AMEX is known not to work, but I tried my Visa 3 times and a different Visa once without success - just got a Spanish error message. I called Chase to confirm that there was no charge even attempted. Finally, I was about to try a different computer, but then just figured I might as well use an MC... and it worked!!

I booked 2 RT tickets for 20.30 eur each, for a total of 40.60 eur = $56.
I think that's a good reference point in regards to countering this comment from upthread:
The major advantage is that he picks you up in a private car in Madrid and drops you back in Madrid. Depending on how many people you are, the train can cost you 100-200 euro.

Anyway, Jewish Toledo Tours wanted 360 euro = $500 and from the comments, it doesn't seem like I'll be missing much by going to the 2 Shuls myself (the museum is closed on Mondays, when I'll be going), so I think this is a much better alternative. :)
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Post by: LAXtraveler on May 08, 2014, 04:55:00 PM
Just booked train tickets RT Madrid-Toledo.
I found a report (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g187514-c80518/Madrid:Spain:Buying.Renfe.Tickets.Online.html) on TA how to book tickets directly from Spain's train company, Renfe.com. This report (which was a bit too verbose), as well as others I Googled, warned that booking tickets from Renfe.com is very hard, often gets declined on the payment page, but will come without the booking fee that other sites, like RailEurope, charge. (RailEurope had a 16 eur fee.)
It took me about 5 attempts to finally book. My main takeaways from this purchasing experience:
1) Spanish version of the site - the report said to stick with the Spanish site. When I tried English, it switched back to Spanish after the booking page anyway. Follow the steps of this report or others in Google to help navigate the Spanish forms. I used Google Translate to see what specific lines meant. You will need to enter your passport number, but I would imagine you could make it up. (I wasn't going to play any games with it, though.)
2) Internet Explorer  - the report said IE is the best for this site. Everything seemed to work just fine in Chrome, but the payment wouldn't go through. (Was that Chrome's fault, Renfe's fault, or the CC's fault? Who knows?)

From what I remember we just bought the train tickets the morning we wanted to go at the train station. It was a non-issue and seems to relieve alot of the hassle you just went through on the Renfe site.
3) MasterCard - the report said AMEX is known not to work, but I tried my Visa 3 times and a different Visa once without success - just got a Spanish error message. I called Chase to confirm that there was no charge even attempted. Finally, I was about to try a different computer, but then just figured I might as well use an MC... and it worked!!

I booked 2 RT tickets for 20.30 eur each, for a total of 40.60 eur = $56.
I think that's a good reference point in regards to countering this comment from upthread:
Anyway, Jewish Toledo Tours wanted 360 euro = $500 and from the comments, it doesn't seem like I'll be missing much by going to the 2 Shuls myself (the museum is closed on Mondays, when I'll be going), so I think this is a much better alternative. :)
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 08, 2014, 05:13:13 PM
From what I remember we just bought the train tickets the morning we wanted to go at the train station. It was a non-issue and seems to relieve alot of the hassle you just went through on the Renfe site.
Correct, but from the TA reviews of MAD-TOL train travel, I saw enough people posting that they got to the station to find the train sold out. I didn't want to take that chance, I'm also super OCD, and I didn't want to pay extra fees. So, I went through the hassle. :)
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Post by: moish on May 09, 2014, 06:50:13 AM
going to the 2 Shuls myself (the museum is closed on Mondays, when I'll be going), so I think this is a much better alternative. :)
when i was there in 2009. the Transito synagogue was closed on mondays, the museum is in the synagogue i believe

 
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 09, 2014, 06:53:06 AM
when i was there in 2009. the Transito synagogue was closed on mondays, the museum is in the synagogue i believe
Thanks, do you remember what else there was to do? Is it just 1 other Shul?
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Post by: moish on May 09, 2014, 07:14:37 AM
Thanks, do you remember what else there was to do? Is it just 1 other Shul?
theres the other one (Santa María la Blanca) and theres a spot for great views

i didnt realize it was going to be closed on monday, so i went back tuesday morning (which caused me skip the palace in madrid)

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Post by: @Yehuda on May 09, 2014, 07:22:47 AM
theres the other one (Santa María la Blanca) and theres a spot for great views

i didnt realize it was going to be closed on monday, so i went back tuesday morning (which caused me skip the palace in madrid)
Right, I land late Sunday night and leave Monday night, so that's not an option. Still think it's worth going for the 1 Shul/views?
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 11, 2014, 02:24:05 PM
Still think it's worth going for the 1 Shul/views?
youre asking the guy who spent a day in Girona
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 11, 2014, 03:21:37 PM
youre asking the guy who spent a day in Girona
I don't get it.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 11, 2014, 03:58:21 PM
I don't get it.
that for me its for sure worth it. but, im someone who would visit gerona, a city steeped with jewish history (home of the baal hamaor, ramban and r' yonah among other rishonim) even though there arent any shuls to be seen today. so for me, i would certainly visit toledo even though i would be able to access but one shul (and feel bad that i couldnt see the second with the museum)
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 11, 2014, 04:29:00 PM
that for me its for sure worth it. but, im someone who would visit gerona, a city steeped with jewish history (home of the baal hamaor, ramban and r' yonah among other rishonim) even though there arent any shuls to be seen today. so for me, i would certainly visit toledo even though i would be able to access but one shul (and feel bad that i couldnt see the second with the museum)
Ahh, good to know. Yeah the Shul looks beautiful, and we hope to go. Any idea if the Santa Maria Synagogue/Museum is an issue with visiting though - seems like it's now owned by the Church, although not used as a Church. Would paying a fee to get in be a problem of supporting the Church?
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on May 20, 2014, 04:44:22 PM
Hi All,

I'm looking into booking EWR-MAD in November.
Thanks so far for all the info.
Whats the best way to get from MAD to GIB for Shabbos ?
Also, would like to go from GIB to TLV for a few days after.
Any suggestions on how to go about that ?

thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on May 20, 2014, 04:46:59 PM
If anyone has any other questions please feel free to ask!
How do you get into the BA club ?
Do they have kosher food ?

thanks
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: bochur123 on May 20, 2014, 04:47:46 PM
I think u would have to fly from Malaga to tlv
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 20, 2014, 06:58:35 PM
thanks for the quick reply.
looking for the shortest flight.
how would you get from GIB to Malaga ? train ? any idea of the travel time ?
Read upthread a bit. I just planned this a few weeks ago. I'm flying from Madrid to Seville, which, like Malaga is a 1.5-2 hours drive to Gibraltar. It's 4500 BA to fly MAD-SVQ or AGP. From there, rent a car to go to GIB.

Again, read upthread to see your hotel options. None of them seem super fancy (although the new hotel that opened up on a docked cruise ship is probably cool!) but nice enough to get the job done. From people's comments, the Eliott seems a "bit" fancier than The Rock, but more importantly, it's up the hill by all the Shuls and The Rock is at the bottom of the hill. (Not sure how big of a deal this "hill" is but people made mention of it in the thread.) From the amount of people here that talked about those 2 hotels, I'm sure they know about Shabbos at these places (i.e. I assume no electric lobby door, and if the room door is electric follow this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7481.msg796016#msg796016) advice). I'm actually eating by a family friend in GIB, so I imagine we'll light candles at their house. If you're eating at the hotel, not sure about lighting candles/warming up food there. Can't comment on that. There are no hotels that are part of any chains, but several can be booked with points through different program's booking sites. I only found Eliott available for UR points (although IIRC I found the other hotels available with MR, BA, and AA) - the amount of points you need depends on how much the hotel costs in $ that night. For me, it cost 14K UR, which is how I booked it.

Getting to TLV... GIB only flies to England as it's part of the UK and for some reason, doesn't have any flight deals worked out with Spain (which is why you need to rent a car or bus to the border and take a cab across). It's too bad. Anyway, you'd have to again cross the border and get back to an airport that flies to TLV. I imagine that's only MAD or BCN. I think bochur was only suggesting AGP as you'd definitely have to go back to Spain, but acc to ITA there's no flight from AGP-TLV. I personally am driving my rental car back to SVQ and flying SVQ-MAD then leaving the country.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on May 21, 2014, 04:56:36 PM
WOW !!
Thanks for the info...
Enjoy your trip...
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 21, 2014, 05:22:54 PM
WOW !!
Thanks for the info...
Enjoy your trip...
My pleasure, I want the research I did to help others as well, especially while it's still fresh in my mind. Giving back as they say.

Thanks, I hope you do too!
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: bochur123 on May 21, 2014, 07:14:27 PM
thanks for the quick reply.
looking for the shortest flight.
how would you get from GIB to Malaga ? train ? any idea of the travel time ?
like 1 and half hours... I dont think there is a train but there might be buses. I had a car when I was there
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Dak613 on June 08, 2014, 01:03:38 AM
We are traveling to Barcelona, Madrid with a couple of days in Mallorca in July 2014.  I would appreciate any info regarding Kosher food and hotels.  Will be using SPG points for most of our stay. 
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 08, 2014, 01:14:07 AM
We are traveling to Barcelona, Madrid with a couple of days in Mallorca in July 2014.  I would appreciate any info regarding Kosher food and hotels.  Will be using SPG points for most of our stay. 
Thanks in advance
Will be there at the end of June if you want to wait for a TR (trip report).

Don't know about SPG hotels in MAD, but I emailed Chabad and they said there's nowhere to get Kosher food so bring stuff with you from BCN if you're there first. In BCN, I'm using SPG 7K/night at the Four Points Sheraton Diagonal but that decision was based on it being the cheapest SPG hotel in BCN. If you have more points to use, I'm sure there are nicer hotels + some that might be closer to town. Seems like the 4P is 10-15 min from the Shul as well as 10-15 min from La Rambla.

Like all of Europe, it's hard to know what's really Kosher, but the Chabad there gives a hechsher on a Maccabi Restaurant (you can google it for address, but it's on La Rambla). I also heard there's a place called Delicias, whose website says they're the only Glatt Kosher meat in BCN (and doesn't list their hechsher other than "Chalak Bet Yosef". If they're the only Glatt place, then what's the deal with Maccabi... ???

Check back one I've posted my TR iy"h and good luck!
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 08, 2014, 01:38:41 AM
Will be there at the end of June if you want to wait for a TR (trip report).

Don't know about SPG hotels in MAD, but I emailed Chabad and they said there's nowhere to get Kosher food so bring stuff with you from BCN if you're there first. In BCN, I'm using SPG 7K/night at the Four Points Sheraton Diagonal but that decision was based on it being the cheapest SPG hotel in BCN. If you have more points to use, I'm sure there are nicer hotels + some that might be closer to town. Seems like the 4P is 10-15 min from the Shul as well as 10-15 min from La Rambla.

Like all of Europe, it's hard to know what's really Kosher, but the Chabad there gives a hechsher on a Maccabi Restaurant (you can google it for address, but it's on La Rambla). I also heard there's a place called Delicias, whose website says they're the only Glatt Kosher meat in BCN (and doesn't list their hechsher other than "Chalak Bet Yosef". If they're the only Glatt place, then what's the deal with Maccabi... ???

Check back one I've posted my TR iy"h and good luck!
From what we were told (by the people we ate by in GIB) was that there are plenty of politics between the chabad and the locals, but there is a kosher restaurant in MAD (and reliable) as well as other kosher food (don't know details) in BCN I was much more comfortable eating at delicios as we spoke to the  mashgiach  and saw how they asked him to serve the wine etc. as opposed to the chabad place the  "mashgiach" solicited us to come in to the store. Besides the food at delicious is way better. There is also a great dairy place under the same hashgacha as delicios (the chief rabbi of BCN).
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 08, 2014, 03:02:50 AM
Getting to TLV... GIB only flies to England as it's part of the UK and for some reason, doesn't have any flight deals worked out with Spain (which is why you need to rent a car or bus to the border and take a cab across). It's too bad. Anyway, you'd have to again cross the border and get back to an airport that flies to TLV. I imagine that's only MAD or BCN. I think bochur was only suggesting AGP as you'd definitely have to go back to Spain, but acc to ITA there's no flight from AGP-TLV. I personally am driving my rental car back to SVQ and flying SVQ-MAD then leaving the country.

No flights from AGP to TLV? Who made that one up?! There are plenty of one-stop options, including TK for bupkis. No nonstops, maybe, but you'll lose time traveling to other airports anyway.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 08, 2014, 07:49:11 AM
No flights from AGP to TLV? Who made that one up?! There are plenty of one-stop options, including TK for bupkis. No nonstops, maybe, but you'll lose time traveling to other airports anyway.
I guess it's another example of ITA not being so accurate these days.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 08, 2014, 07:49:37 AM
From what we were told (by the people we ate by in GIB) was that there are plenty of politics between the chabad and the locals, but there is a kosher restaurant in MAD (and reliable) as well as other kosher food (don't know details) in BCN I was much more comfortable eating at delicios as we spoke to the  mashgiach  and saw how they asked him to serve the wine etc. as opposed to the chabad place the  "mashgiach" solicited us to come in to the store. Besides the food at delicious is way better. There is also a great dairy place under the same hashgacha as delicios (the chief rabbi of BCN).
Wow, interesting. I actually know someone in GIB, so I'll email them.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 08, 2014, 04:06:16 PM
I guess it's another example of ITA not being so accurate these days.

Perhaps you had it on "Nonstop only" from a previous search? ITA is sometimes a bit inaccurate, but not THAT bad. :P
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 08, 2014, 04:10:37 PM
Perhaps you had it on "Nonstop only" from a previous search? ITA is sometimes a bit inaccurate, but not THAT bad. :P
Just re-read your original comment. Didn't see the "one-stop" phrase. Of course there are flights AGP-MAD-TLV or AGP-BCN-TLV. My post said there was no AGP-TLV and that you'd have to get to a city whether it's AGP or SVQ that flies to a city (like MAD or BCN) that goes to TLV. We're saying the same thing.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 08, 2014, 08:19:11 PM
Just re-read your original comment. Didn't see the "one-stop" phrase. Of course there are flights AGP-MAD-TLV or AGP-BCN-TLV. My post said there was no AGP-TLV and that you'd have to get to a city whether it's AGP or SVQ that flies to a city (like MAD or BCN) that goes to TLV. We're saying the same thing.

Ummmmm... no, we're not. I actually have no clue what you're saying at this point. ;D

FTR, I flew AGP-IST-TLV. Not sure why you think MAD or BCN needs to be involved.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 08, 2014, 08:25:40 PM
Ummmmm... no, we're not. I actually have no clue what you're saying at this point. ;D

FTR, I flew AGP-IST-TLV. Not sure why you think MAD or BCN needs to be involved.
Okay sorry, I meant you can't go AGP-TLV direct. I guess you're right, you could get out of the country from AGP and then go to TLV. My bad.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Dak613 on June 10, 2014, 06:00:15 PM
Yehuda,
I will await your TR
In Barcelona, we are staying at the Hilton, (which is near Chabad) and as long as you stay a minimum of 3 days, theres an unbelievable rate, so I am not using SPG for Meridien hotel- which is too far of a walk to Chabad on Shabbos in any case.
Still concerned about food when we aren't in Barcelona ie Madrid and for our 3 day get-away to Mallorca.
Any idea if there's any prohibition in bringing frozen food into Spain ( freeze dried deli )?
We are also traveling to Mallorca from Barcelona on Air Europa.  We are having difficulty getting information on baggage limitations.
Any info, we would appreciate
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 11, 2014, 07:26:34 AM
Yehuda,
I will await your TR
In Barcelona, we are staying at the Hilton, (which is near Chabad) and as long as you stay a minimum of 3 days, theres an unbelievable rate, so I am not using SPG for Meridien hotel- which is too far of a walk to Chabad on Shabbos in any case.
Still concerned about food when we aren't in Barcelona ie Madrid and for our 3 day get-away to Mallorca.
Any idea if there's any prohibition in bringing frozen food into Spain ( freeze dried deli )?
We are also traveling to Mallorca from Barcelona on Air Europa.  We are having difficulty getting information on baggage limitations.
Any info, we would appreciate

What rate and how did you get it? There is Kosher food in BCN and MAD I brought in deli in my carry-on. The main shul in BCN is closer to everything than the Chabad you are better off staying on La Ramblas then near Chabad
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Dak613 on June 19, 2014, 11:33:33 PM
Rate at Hilton was about 100 euros a night, as long as you stay a minimum of 3 nights.

What reliable kosher options are there in Madrid?

There is a listed "Kosher Delight" in Mallorca..... Anyone have any information about it?
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 20, 2014, 02:39:33 AM
What reliable kosher options are there in Madrid?
Chabad of Madrid told me "We only eat at home."
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 20, 2014, 09:27:48 AM
Chabad of Madrid told me "We only eat at home."
It's for political reasons not kashrus
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 20, 2014, 09:41:36 AM
It's for political reasons not kashrus
How do you determine that?
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 20, 2014, 09:49:43 AM
It's for political reasons not kashrus
how do you know? thats not what they told me
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 20, 2014, 11:31:28 AM
Who's they? Chabad? The people in Gibraltar told me and I trust them more than some chabad shaliach that has monetary negios
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 20, 2014, 11:43:07 AM
Who's they? Chabad? The people in Gibraltar told me and I trust them more than some chabad shaliach that has monetary negios
It's not like he has another restaurant that he's trying to push. The Chabad in Barcelona not mentioning Delicias in their list of Kosher restaurants gets me more inquisitive as they have a stake in where you decide to eat.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 21, 2014, 02:51:42 PM
It's not like he has another restaurant that he's trying to push. The Chabad in Barcelona not mentioning Delicias in their list of Kosher restaurants gets me more inquisitive as they have a stake in where you decide to eat.
Monetary politics don't necessarily mean he has a restaurant, and could be he used to. All I know is the family I ate by in GIB, which is a very chashuve family, told us we can eat there.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 21, 2014, 06:25:53 PM
Who's they? Chabad? The people in Gibraltar told me and I trust them more than some chabad shaliach that has monetary negios
unless its r' hasid, why would you trust a random person in gib? i dont get it...
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 22, 2014, 01:39:12 AM
unless its r' hasid, why would you trust a random person in gib? i dont get it...
:-\ ???
All I know is the family I ate by in GIB, which is a very chashuve family, told us we can eat there.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 22, 2014, 05:02:14 AM
are they chashuv because you ate there? anyways do what works for you, but it does sound a bit odd
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 22, 2014, 07:10:58 AM
are they chashuv because you ate there?
I take offense. Chashuv as in THE community leader, chashuv as in every Rosh Yeshiva in the world stays at his house and eats his food. Chashuv as in God fearing and all of his kids and SIL's are bnei torah of the highest degree. I can go on if you wish but I don't think your obnoxious comment deserves it. I didn't want to say it this way (there's no way how people here would take it) but for some reason when traveling everyone seems to rely blindly on chabad. I spoke to some lubavitchers of a prestigious chabad family and they wouldn't step foot into a chabad house unless they 100% certain that his food and wine were kosher.
#nuffsaid
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 22, 2014, 08:32:37 AM
I take offense. Chashuv as in THE community leader, chashuv as in every Rosh Yeshiva in the world stays at his house and eats his food. Chashuv as in God fearing and all of his kids and SIL's are bnei torah of the highest degree. I can go on if you wish but I don't think your obnoxious comment deserves it. I didn't want to say it this way (there's no way how people here would take it) but for some reason when traveling everyone seems to rely blindly on chabad. I spoke to some lubavitchers of a prestigious chabad family and they wouldn't step foot into a chabad house unless they 100% certain that his food and wine were kosher.
#nuffsaid
so you could have said, "no, they are chashuv because x,y,z" not sure why you are so offended.
then you go on why people rely on chabad etc insinuating that people are maykil whilst travelling. yet in this scenario the opposite is true.

for most level headed people, they would rather trust someone local especially when theyre saying that the local community's kashrus standards are not up to par, which could very well make sense, rather than relying on someone who lives further out (and probably is not in the know on a day to day basis) saying the most overused and generally ridiculous term in kashrus, "it's all politics." I'm sure if you take a step back you could see that.

Clearly you are taking this extremely personal and i apologize if i offended you in any way, that was not my intention.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 22, 2014, 09:07:59 AM
so you could have said, "no, they are chashuv because x,y,z" not sure why you are so offended.
then you go on why people rely on chabad etc insinuating that people are maykil whilst travelling. yet in this scenario the opposite is true.

for most level headed people, they would rather trust someone local especially when theyre saying that the local community's kashrus standards are not up to par, which could very well make sense, rather than relying on someone who lives further out (and probably is not in the know on a day to day basis) saying the most overused and generally ridiculous term in kashrus, "it's all politics." I'm sure if you take a step back you could see that.

Clearly you are taking this extremely personal and i apologize if i offended you in any way, that was not my intention.
you are naive and have a lot to learn. But just to answer your local thing... The people of GIB are generally there on a monthly basis and these politics have been going on for many years
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 22, 2014, 04:36:48 PM
Anyone know anything about Coke in Spain and/or a Kosher products list?
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 22, 2014, 04:52:33 PM
Anyone know anything about Coke in Spain and/or a Kosher products list?

According to this list (http://www.jabadbarcelona.org/media/pdf/758/Cnbj7583917.pdf) by Chabad of Barcelona, it is kosher.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 22, 2014, 04:55:06 PM
According to this list (http://www.jabadbarcelona.org/media/pdf/758/Cnbj7583917.pdf) by Chabad of Barcelona, it is kosher.
Sweet, thanks for the find!
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 23, 2014, 06:22:45 PM
BTW I davened today in BETH KENESET BETH YAACOV and I spoke to the Rabbi there. Obviously, no one knows him and no one knows his shul or anything, but sometimes I feel like you just gotta trust that a man who has a community following him (albeit a small one) in some random place, leads a frum minyan and gives over a few divrei torah infront of you isn't lying to you. He told me that La Escudilla (which happens to be 2 minutes from the shul and 2 minutes from my hotel) is under his shul's supervision and is Glatt Kosher. I didn't end up eating there because we had brought sandwiches from Israel and there was no point in wasting money, but I don't know what else to say. I don't know why Chabad doesn't like it, but I met this man and he seems like an honest, knowledgeable man.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 23, 2014, 07:00:21 PM
Also, I would highly suggest not going to Toledo. Waste of time & money. TR to come.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 23, 2014, 08:11:13 PM
Also, I would highly suggest not going to Toledo. Waste of time & money. TR to come.

I would disagree with you on this if you have a tour guide. If you are without one, I can't comment.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Dak613 on June 23, 2014, 09:40:57 PM
Yehuda,
If you can get the email address from the Rabbi of the Madrid Orhodox Shul, I would appreciate it. 
I received an email from the Chabad of Madrid who stated ( and I quote)
"It is the policy of Chabad not to endorse any establishment unless directly involved."
Therefore, let's all calm down and understand that an establishment can be strictly Kosher even if not affiliated with Chabad and therefore not under its hashgacha nor recommended list.
I would like to find out more about La Escudilla and other kosher options in Madrid. please advise
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 24, 2014, 01:45:11 AM
Also, I would highly suggest not going to Toledo. Waste of time & money. TR to come.
completely disagree.

Depends on what your expectations are. While I was in Toledo, i came across an israeli tourist who was completely unimpressed. He thought he would see shuls the likes of which are found in rome and budapest. he was disappointed. i didnt have those expectations and was able to soak up the experience
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 24, 2014, 01:47:25 AM
So I reached out to someone from Gibraltar to get the inside scoop on the restaurant in Madrid and he responded as follows:

There is some truth to both sides of the coin here

There is always politics in every country between Chabad and the local community.

However I know people who won't trust the kashrus and won't eat there

I think it's all up to ones personal level of strictness
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 24, 2014, 12:31:36 PM
There used to be another restaurant in Madrid called Naomi Grill. Not sure if it is still around or what hechscher it has, but maybe there is a way to find out.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on June 24, 2014, 01:28:17 PM
www.jewisheurope.org has some useful links
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 25, 2014, 12:55:13 AM
There used to be another restaurant in Madrid called Naomi Grill. Not sure if it is still around or what hechscher it has, but maybe there is a way to find out.
I believe that is La Escuidilla
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 28, 2014, 08:33:03 PM
Also, I would highly suggest not going to Toledo. Waste of time & money. TR to come.
I take it back. We did a tour of Jewish Barcelona and really liked it. Would have gotten 5% of it had we walked around without a tour. Now I realize how Toledo would probably have been very nice with a guide (and if both Shuls were open - we went on Monday knowing that 1 Shul is closed on Mondays). At the same time, the Toledo tour guide wanted over 300 euros so that would not have been a option for us anyway. I think that the less a city has in actual Jewish sites, the more you'd get out of a tour guide who can basically give you a live history lesson and show you the few remaining pieces of Jewish history. As Toledo has little to see (the Santa Maria la Blanca shul is literally just an empty - albeit nicely designed - room. No pews, no clear space that was once an Aron, etc.) having a guide would have made a world of a difference. So if you can afford Solomon, I'm sure it'll be great. I don't think it's worth going without a guide unless the El Transito shul has what to see without a guide (again it was closed when we went).

FYI We met a couple in BCN who told us El Transito is closed the entire month for construction, so if you were planning to go soon, look into that.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 29, 2014, 02:55:51 AM
the transito is is a much better experience. i went without a guide and was fascinated. having gone on a monday, it wasnt fair of you to write what you wrote.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 29, 2014, 03:23:35 AM
the transito is is a much better experience. i went without a guide and was fascinated. having gone on a monday, it wasnt fair of you to write what you wrote.
I realize that now. Was frustrated in the moment.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on July 08, 2014, 11:22:24 AM

What are your dates?

July 23-24 Spain
July 25-26 GIB
July 27 fly home from LHR
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Dak613 on July 09, 2014, 10:44:56 PM
Does anyone know about kosher food in Mallorca.  It seems that there is a shul and on the website it lists some kosher options....
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: DXD on July 13, 2014, 09:46:18 PM
DXD's Early Summer Adventure TR:
ORD -> Barcelona -> Milan -> Venice -> Florence -> Rome -> Naples -> Rome -> Prague -> ORD

Part 1:

Flew to BCN on USAir booked with AAdvantage miles. It was just myself and my wife. We really wanted to check out Barcelona before spending the majority of our trip in Italy. However Barcelona did not live up to our expectations.

USAir A330-200 was pretty decent experience - good enterntainment system. Biggest problem was that they did not have a record of our kosher order, so we needed to crack open some of our trip supplies. The attendant did give us something like 30 small pretzel packets...

Landed early in the morning to took the AeroBus to the central square (Placa Cataluyna). There was no reasonably-priced  point availability, so I got Vueling Hotel through travelpony.com. The price was okay, but the hotel was within walking distance to the airport bus. The rooms were smallish, but comfortable and each room had a theme of a destination where Vueling flies.

Highlights of Barcelona:
1. Just the vibes of the city outside the tourist areas - architecture, nightlife, etc.
2. Parc Guell (up the hill). Worth the shlep for the views and Gaudi architecture. You may want to skip the pay portion of it - you pretty much see the same things from the free part of the park.
3. Parc de Ciutedella - central and very nice.
4. Sangra Familia is as impressive as it looks in pictures - we did not go in, but it's definitely unique.

Not impressed with:
1. Las Ramblas and Bari Gottic in general. Crowded with swarms of tourists by day and shady after sun-down. You really do see the pick-pocketers scanning the crowd for the next easy take.
2. La Pedrera - yes the roof-time sculptures are famous, but 16 euros per entree (audi guide extra) is a total ripoff

Food:
We only went to 2 places:
1. Macabbi - off Las Ramblas. It was okay - nothing spectacular, but pricing was not horrible and the location was in the middle of tourist action.
2. Delicias - about a 45 minute walk from the central area. It was better, and it was more of a 'locals' place. The subway doesn't stop by there, but it's pretty easy to get there on the bus too. My wife wanted to try chicken paella, and even though it was not on the menu they made it special for her.

Next it was off to Milan. We booked on EasyJet since it was not that much more additional than booking with points (so we saved those points). We did have to pay for one checked bag - the lady in the check-in counter gave us one for free. It was my  first time on EasyJet, but it was pretty comparable mid-tier airlines. Regardless it was a short flight.

Part 2 - Italy...
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: Centurion on July 15, 2014, 07:30:34 AM
anyone been to Santiago de Compostela, A Coruña, Spain (SCQ)
need to go from/to madrid

im assuming avios for travel? aa/usair?   food?hotel?

http://www.kosherdelight.com/SpainSynagoguesLaCoruna.htm ( anyone know them?)
TIA
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: davidch on July 17, 2014, 02:00:57 PM
Hi I'm gonna be in Barcelona in about two weeks an was wondering if anyone can suggest a place to stay( hostel /hotel/ appt.......) going with four guys.. Thanks a lot!!!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: avadah on August 31, 2014, 07:54:12 AM
Has anyone here been to Ibiza?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 07, 2014, 07:32:38 AM
Has anyone crossed over from Gibraltar to Spain by foot recently or vice versa ? Was wondering how the queues were, like how long does it take to cross.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on September 07, 2014, 07:56:51 AM

Has anyone crossed over from Gibraltar to Spain by foot recently or vice versa ? Was wondering how the queues were, like how long does it take to cross.

Did Spain to GIB. Walking across took 5 minutes tops.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 07, 2014, 08:02:08 AM
Did Spain to GIB. Walking across took 5 minutes tops.
Thanks.  How long ago? Time of day?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on September 07, 2014, 09:07:36 AM
Spain to GIB is much faster than GIB to Spain IIRC and it all depends on the day and time of day
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on September 07, 2014, 10:55:29 AM

Thanks.  How long ago? Time of day?

Friday in July.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 07, 2014, 10:56:42 AM
Friday in July.
Thanks. I'm reading that Gibraltar to Spain takes much longer, looking for more info about that
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on September 07, 2014, 11:29:48 AM
Thanks. I'm reading that Gibraltar to Spain takes much longer, looking for more info about that
By car is more of an issue than by foot. We left motzei Shabbos by car and there were no lines
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on September 08, 2014, 02:03:48 PM
Does anyone know whats about the weather in GIB in January ?? Officially it should be warm (warmer then NY ;)) Does this mean that it is nice sunny days or not at all?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on September 11, 2014, 02:50:20 PM
Is there anyone on this forum living in GIB? pls PM me.

TIA
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on October 13, 2014, 11:50:59 PM
Looking into a trip to Tenerife. (TFS) Seems to be a nice Sheraton for only 10,000 points there.

Couple of questions:

1) Can I bring along kosher food from NY into this Island?
2) If I can only leave 7:06pm from Brooklyn, NY 11218 to JFK & SQ A380 leaves 8:25pm do you think I can make it without luggage?
3) If yes how do I print boarding passes right by the zman as the check in counter will never give me one that late.
4) I have TSA Precheck if it matters.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 03, 2014, 10:29:42 PM
Wow that was a long thread to read. I'm just at the beginning stages of planning a trip that starts and ends in MAD. We don't plan on spending the entire 2 weeks in Spain though. Based on the whole thing here are my questions/summaries (I know I'm asking a lot in one post, but the first 4 are just agree/disagree so don't shoot me):

We'd arrive in MAD Monday night. It seems that spending Tuesday in MAD is enough if you skip Toledo (per @Yehuda). It would also seem like the restaurant there is okay according to many but not chabad. (1) Agree or disagree?

If we take a late flight out of MAD (say after 7pm) to BCN we could spend Wednesday there. We can skip the rooftop Guadí thing and the paid part of Park Guell and still get a nice feeling of the city. If we wanted to take the Jewish tour (which seems worth it) and see the sites we'd need another day. Leaving BCN in the evening at around 7pm again would still be enough time. (2) Agree or disagree?

We were thinking of visiting Seville next on Thursday. There seem to be things to see there though not necessarily lots Jewish history. We'd spend Thursday night there also and drive to GIB early Friday. There's no kosher food in SVQ. (3) Agree or disagree?

Parking/driving in GIB is extremely difficult and not recommended. We'd spend Friday afternoon through Sunday evening in GIB, with Sunday being 17 Tammuz. The community a really nice place to spend shabbos and the Rock hike is awesome if you don't take a restricted path. (4) Agree or disagree?

We would like to go to either CDG or LHR next. Flights from GIB only go to LHR, LGW, or LTN and are all in the evening (5pm-10pm). If we want to go to LON, (5) What would we be able to do in GIB on a fast day?

If we go to CDG next, we'd have to fly from AGP or SVQ. (6) Is it easier to fly to LON and spend the whole day Sunday fasting in GIB or leave earlier and fly to CDG?

Last one: If we rent a car in SVQ it's a lot cheaper to drop it off in Spain than in GIB. (7) What's the best option with the car? Keep it over shabbos in GIB and drive it to AGP or back to SVQ on Sunday? Something else?

TIA
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 03, 2014, 11:14:30 PM
1. Agree, although I don't know that "many" say the restaurant is good. The Rabbi of the regular Shul says it's good (it's under his supervision).

2. Agree, although I realize that you probably could do the Jewish tour first thing in the morning and then still have time to see Park Guell before heading to the airport.

3. I realize it's silly to just keep saying 'agree' and then adding in a point, so I'll just add in my point: there is a Jewish tour, but he's expensive and wouldn't offer a student discount (which means definitely expensive for you). Make sure to leave early Friday in order to have time in GIB for an activity.

4. Agreed that it's hard to drive/park and you'll be less stressed without a car (you definitely don't need one to move around GIB) but public transportation from SVQ may be annoying. I don't know about the Rock :( , but it sure seems like it's awesome.

5. Don't know other than just walking around, but there's isn't much to walk around. You could do the dolphin tour as that shouldn't be too physically demanding.

6. Since you'll have to go back to SVQ/AGP, then you'll be spending the morning in public transportation or driving a rental car back (which means you decided to rent a car). By the time you land in CDG, it'll be the afternoon. Not sure how much better the busy travel day will be than just chilling in GIB till the LON flights.

7. Can't really help you make the car rental decision other than saying it's doable, but a bit tough/stressful. If public transportation is crazy long, then it really could be worth dealing with driving. Drive RT if you decide to go to CDG. If you decide to go to LON, then drive one way and find a company (I don't know any) where you can return the car near the border and then taxi/bus over the border.

Good night
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 03, 2014, 11:36:10 PM
Wow, thanks for your response. A OW rental from SVQ to La Linea is $71 man ($269 auto) for the few hours it takes to drive (it's $205 man/$298 auto to GIB), a OW from SVQ to AGP Fri-Sun is $38/day man ($53 auto) and a if I rent and return in SVQ it's $16/day man ($33 auto). Public transportation is long and expensive both from SVQ to GIB and GIB to AGP.

If there's not much besides the dolphins to do in GIB it might be worth it to fly to CDG or ORY from AGP and park the car in GIB over shabbos. Is street parking available there? If yes, it it like saying there's street parking near Times Square: there, but almost never available? That way we can spend a little longer in Paris and spend the next shabbos in London.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 03, 2014, 11:48:24 PM
Anyone have an idea why MAD-BCN//BCN-SVQ is $69 a leg ($140 total) but MAD-BCN-SVQ is only $113?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 04, 2014, 01:46:52 AM
if you skip Toledo (per @Yehuda).
i dont know of anyone besides for @Yehuda that thinks its a good idea to skip toledo

Parking/driving in GIB is extremely difficult and not recommended.
im not sure where you got that info from, but i did not find that to be the case even when driving stick
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Mech on November 04, 2014, 04:22:21 AM

Parking/driving in GIB is extremely difficult and not recommended.
im not sure where you got that info from, but i did not find that to be the case even when driving stick
The driving in Gibraltar is worse than Bais Yisroel
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 04, 2014, 07:29:43 AM
i dont know of anyone besides for @Yehuda that thinks its a good idea to skip toledo
:)
1 Shul is just a big open room w/ no sign of ever once being a Shul.
The other Shul was closed the day I went #1 because it was a Monday and #2 because it was under construction. Looks like you're going on a Tuesday, so assuming they finished construction by the time you go, it'll likely be open. I wouldn't even stop by the Santa Maria La Blanca Shul if I went again, so you'd be going just for the 1 Shul. I think it's one thing to see the Great Synagogue of Rome when you're eating a restaurant a block away, and another thing to spend 1/2 a day to go see a Shul and pay for train tickets, taxis within Toledo and the Shul entrance fees (albeit small). But hey, if you're really into seeing Shuls (which I normally enjoy, but again, we had a bad experience) then go for it!

im not sure where you got that info from, but i did not find that to be the case even when driving stick
As per Mech's finding, SamKey clearly thinks so. I did too. I'm up to GIB in my TR (yeah, where is that thing??), but I'll give you a quick sneak peek. Once you cross the border into GIB, driving becomes crazy. Even though you're likely not driving more than 10 minutes to your hotel, it's pretty scary. Roundabouts here (as well as in Spain) are much more difficult to navigate than in America. One even had a traffic light in the roundabout and I almost hit an old lady crossing the street because I didn't see the light. More annoyingly, there's basically no distinction between road and sidewalk. People, cars, and the worst - scooters - all share the same travelling path and that gets quite unnerving. Add to the fact that there are no street signs, the roads are narrow and curvy and no signs indicating 1-way or 2-way traffic, made driving here NUTS. At the same time, driving out Saturday night was not so bad as it was much quieter on the streets late at night.

Wow, thanks for your response. A OW rental from SVQ to La Linea is $71 man ($269 auto) for the few hours it takes to drive (it's $205 man/$298 auto to GIB), a OW from SVQ to AGP Fri-Sun is $38/day man ($53 auto) and a if I rent and return in SVQ it's $16/day man ($33 auto). Public transportation is long and expensive both from SVQ to GIB and GIB to AGP.

If there's not much besides the dolphins to do in GIB it might be worth it to fly to CDG or ORY from AGP and park the car in GIB over shabbos. Is street parking available there? If yes, it it like saying there's street parking near Times Square: there, but almost never available? That way we can spend a little longer in Paris and spend the next shabbos in London.
My pleasure. I don't know the deal with the air travel prices or much about the car rentals. If you can deal with the driving situation, it sure looks like that will be pretty cheap (assuming you can handle stick) and more convenient.

That's a fine idea - we took trains on 17 Tammuz. It was a tough day because of the fast, rainy weather, having to do laundry, missing our chance to get to the castle in Belgium we were hoping to see, but nu, it's a fast day - it's not going to be a great day. Travelling probably won't be the worst idea. I wouldn't bank on street parking. If you stay at the Eliott, the lot outside the hotel is not theirs - it's public - but they'll give you a pass for your whole stay for 12 GBP. Not bad. SamKey mentioned a free public lot, but the hotel clerk didn't know where it was. We actually passed by it on a Shabbos walk - it was near The Rock Hotel and about a 15-20 minute walk from the Jewish community and our hotel. I'm glad we paid the 12 pounds for the close lot. Even parking was hard. There was no clear indication that you were in a lot as opposed to just parking on the street (lol, not joking. You'll understand when you see it.) and the rows were so narrow it was almost impossible to move around the lot. If the lot is full, the hotel will tell you you're out of luck, but you could probably wait around for someone to pull out as it's a public lot, so how much time can someone possibly have put in the meter?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 04, 2014, 07:51:38 AM
Can never compare touring an old Jewish area with a tour and without a tour guide, especially when there is not much physically remaining
Like going to majdenik and not knowing the story of the Holocaust
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 04, 2014, 08:29:57 AM
Can never compare touring an old Jewish area with a tour and without a tour guide, especially when there is not much physically remaining
Like going to majdenik and not knowing the story of the Holocaust
Although, it was the most expensive Jewish tour I found in Europe.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 04, 2014, 09:30:52 AM
1 Shul is just a big open room w/ no sign of ever once being a Shul.
theres a magen dovid

I think it's one thing to see the Great Synagogue of Rome when you're eating a restaurant a block away, and another thing to spend 1/2 a day to go see a Shul and pay for train tickets, taxis within Toledo and the Shul entrance fees (albeit small).
how can you compare a shul built 100 years ago to one that the rishonim likely davened in?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 04, 2014, 10:06:54 AM
theres a magen dovid
how can you compare a shul built 100 years ago to one that the rishonim likely davened in?
I didn't see the Magen David, although Ergel is right that with a tour I probably would have had it pointed out to me. (Not that I was doubting it was a Shul.)
I didn't feel the inspiration based on the assumption your saying. I dunno, it just wasn't worth the schlep for me. Maybe next time I'll do a whole Spain Jewish trip (like an older couple was doing that I met while there) and we'll be rich and hire a guide for the whole of Spain and get a lot more out of it. I'm not sure it's so worth doing alone (although IIRC you did and liked it).
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 04, 2014, 10:44:54 AM
I didn't see the Magen David,
here it is. sorry for the quality, after all, it was an undercover shot. i knew about it not because i went on a tour, but rather because i prepared before i went. it gave me the proper context

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2014, 10:59:45 AM
i dont know of anyone besides for @Yehuda that thinks its a good idea to skip toledo
Ok. Would you recommend going if I didn't want to shell out big bucks for a Jewish tour? Assume both shuls would be open. Also keep in mind that I'm only planning one day in MAD. If I go to Toledo that would be instead of MAD.
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im not sure where you got that info from, but i did not find that to be the case even when driving stick
It looks like it's mainly flat around the Jewish community and more hilly closer to the rock. From the little Google Street View there is it looks like the side streets are incredibly narrow with very limited parking. That being said, it doesn't seem like there's another option besides driving. Is there?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2014, 11:05:44 AM
Although, it was the most expensive Jewish tour I found in Europe.
That's one of the main reasons I would skip Toledo in the first place. I spent the money to do a Jewish tour in Rome which was nice, but it only cost 50€. Even then I think using Rock Steves would have been nearly as good and a lot cheaper. I can't justify spending all my time in MAD to travel to Toledo and then spend a lot more money on a tour.
theres a magen dovid
how can you compare a shul built 100 years ago to one that the rishonim likely davened in?
Obviously it's different, but along with being more special it's also a lot more deteriorated and a therefore a lot less to see. I think I'd be content with knowing that Rishonim lived and walked in that very area without spending time to see a super old (not real pretty) building.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 04, 2014, 11:10:02 AM
Ok. Would you recommend going if I didn't want to shell out big bucks for a Jewish tour? Assume both shuls would be open. Also keep in mind that I'm only planning one day in MAD. If I go to Toledo that would be instead of MAD.
i would, but i guess it depends on what you like. if youre into/appreciate jewish history its a no brainer. the shul that @Yehuda missed is remarkable

there aint too much in madrid
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 04, 2014, 11:12:53 AM
i would, but i guess it depends on what you like. if youre into/appreciate jewish history its a no brainer. the shul that @Yehuda missed is remarkable
+1 One of the coolest parts of Rome for me was seeing an original sefer haikarim. Most people probably couldn't care less. Everyone is different
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2014, 11:15:43 AM
i would, but i guess it depends on what you like. if youre into/appreciate jewish history its a no brainer. the shul that @Yehuda missed is remarkable

there aint too much in madrid
I do like Jewish History, but as it is I think I'm going to be rushing a bit in Spain trying to see MAD, BCN, & SVQ each for 1 day and then driving to GIB for shabbos. Toledo might just have to wait for another trip to Spain, when I'll spend more time in other smaller cities as well.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2014, 11:19:22 AM
+1 One of the coolest parts of Rome for me was seeing an original sefer haikarim. Most people probably couldn't care less. Everyone is different
True. Maybe I'm weird, but even on the Jewish tour in Rome I didn't feel special just because Jews had been there for 1000s of years. Seeing the Jewish museum was nice, but something I'd've done anyways. Don't get me wrong, I loved the tour, but I just don't think I'd pay for it again knowing what's on it.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 04, 2014, 11:25:11 AM
True. Maybe I'm weird, but even on the Jewish tour in Rome I didn't feel special just because Jews had been there for 1000s of years. Seeing the Jewish museum was nice, but something I'd've done anyways. Don't get me wrong, I loved the tour, but I just don't think I'd pay for it again knowing what's on it.
And likely that's because you didn't use Rome For Jews as anyone I've known who has taken it it was the highlight of their trip
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 04, 2014, 11:36:50 AM
And likely that's because you didn't use Rome For Jews as anyone I've known who has taken it it was the highlight of their trip
i would have to agree with that
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 04, 2014, 11:39:56 AM
I do like Jewish History, but as it is I think I'm going to be rushing a bit in Spain trying to see MAD, BCN, & SVQ each for 1 day and then driving to GIB for shabbos. Toledo might just have to wait for another trip to Spain, when I'll spend more time in other smaller cities as well.
there really isnt anything to see in madrd. maybe plaza major, the palace, but theyre not unique. a bullfight you can still catch after toledo and as a nightcap you can take in a flamenco performance if thats your thing. my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2014, 11:45:04 AM
And likely that's because you didn't use Rome For Jews as anyone I've known who has taken it it was the highlight of their trip
Maybe, but as you said, everyone's different. I'm not so into history. I don't regret for a moment not taking them.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2014, 11:46:36 AM
there really isnt anything to see in madrd. maybe plaza major, the palace, but theyre not unique. a bullfight you can still catch after toledo and as a nightcap you can take in a flamenco performance if thats your thing. my 2 cents.
So you'd vote for getting up early, taking a train to Toledo, doing the tour, going back to Madrid and flying out that night? Seems like kinda rushed/no chance to see flamenco performances at nigh, no?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on November 04, 2014, 12:30:54 PM
i'm going next week.
my itinerary looks like this
Nov 11- landing at BCN at 3pm and trying to see the park and sculptures before dark and La Rambla
Nov 12- taking first possible train to Gerona and Taxi to besalu. hopefully get back in time for 9pm flight to SVQ
Nov 13- Train to Cordoba for the day and back
Nov 14- 9am tour with guide 160 Euros around seville. drive to GIB for shabbos
Nov 15 - shabbos in GIB. havent decided whether to email the community for hospitality for meals or eat in the hotel.
Nov 16- Sunday in GIB. Rock, dolphins, etc..
Nov 17- drive up the coast to Malaga and Granada. try to see AL Hambra. 5pm Flight out to Mad and home.
So trying to do everything myself except for the one tour in Seville. Barcelona & Gerona tours are a fortune, minimum quote i found was 350 euros. from the homework i've tried to do there doesnt seem to be anything in Barcelona to "see" other than what someone says used to be a shul or a mikva. gerona and besalu are supposedly smaller and easier to "see". Toledo will have to be left for another time.

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 04, 2014, 12:48:16 PM
is your itinerary set in stone?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on November 04, 2014, 01:02:33 PM
ONE DAY IS NOT ENOUGH IN BCN!!!!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on November 04, 2014, 01:07:34 PM
i'm going next week.
my itinerary looks like this
Nov 11- landing at BCN at 3pm and trying to see the park and sculptures before dark and La Rambla
Nov 12- taking first possible train to Gerona and Taxi to besalu. hopefully get back in time for 9pm flight to SVQ
Nov 13- Train to Cordoba for the day and back
Nov 14- 9am tour with guide 160 Euros around seville. drive to GIB for shabbos
Nov 15 - shabbos in GIB. havent decided whether to email the community for hospitality for meals or eat in the hotel.
Nov 16- Sunday in GIB. Rock, dolphins, etc..
Nov 17- drive up the coast to Malaga and Granada. try to see AL Hambra. 5pm Flight out to Mad and home.
So trying to do everything myself except for the one tour in Seville. Barcelona & Gerona tours are a fortune, minimum quote i found was 350 euros. from the homework i've tried to do there doesnt seem to be anything in Barcelona to "see" other than what someone says used to be a shul or a mikva. gerona and besalu are supposedly smaller and easier to "see". Toledo will have to be left for another time.




Have fun, does this count as your trip report? ;)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 04, 2014, 01:16:36 PM
And likely that's because you didn't use Rome For Jews as anyone I've known who has taken it it was the highlight of their trip
Eh, RFJ sounded very similar to how JR actually was. Everyone loves debating it, but both companies have guides that were born in Rome and are professional tour guides. I'm sure it's almost the same tour.
The highlight of my trip was BA"Ghetto Milly and I know I'm not alone in that. :)

there really isnt anything to see in madrd. maybe plaza major, the palace, but theyre not unique. a bullfight you can still catch after toledo and as a nightcap you can take in a flamenco performance if thats your thing. my 2 cents.
The Palace was very nice. Retiro Park was great. I think there is what to do in MAD alone and I didn't even get to a "unique" bullfight/show.

So you'd vote for getting up early, taking a train to Toledo, doing the tour, going back to Madrid and flying out that night? Seems like kinda rushed/no chance to see flamenco performances at nigh, no?
Toledo isn't a crazy long travel, which means you could do the trip and still have time at night. You said "tour", does that mean you'd take the Solomon guy?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on November 04, 2014, 01:28:15 PM
No. This is not a trip report. Got some pretty big shoes to fill before I can write one of those.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on November 04, 2014, 01:30:37 PM
is your itinerary set in stone?
For the most part. every thing is booked. Not much wiggle room.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2014, 01:37:26 PM
Toledo isn't a crazy long travel, which means you could do the trip and still have time at night. You said "tour", does that mean you'd take the Solomon guy?
I know, it's only about 30 minutes (GMaps). The problem is that our tentative itinerary has us arriving in MAD Mon night and leaving Tue night, so if we went to Toledo Tue morning for just 2 hours we might be able to squeeze in some sights in MAD before having to leave to BCN.

I really didn't want to spend crazy money for the Solomon guy, which might defeat the whole purpose of going, no?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2014, 01:37:49 PM
ONE DAY IS NOT ENOUGH IN BCN!!!!
How long would you recommend? 1.5 days? 2 days? Longer?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on November 04, 2014, 01:40:11 PM
How long would you recommend? 1.5 days? 2 days? Longer?
At least 2 days I love the city also just FYI Spain is known for it's gorgeous beaches if you can spare a night chill in Marbella,
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2014, 01:44:24 PM
At least 2 days I love the city also just FYI Spain is known for it's gorgeous beaches if you can spare a night chill in Marbella,
Besides for the beaches in BCN, what activities besides the Park Guell, Las Ramblas and Jewish tour do you recommend? I might be able to spend Tue night through Thu morning and spend less time in SVQ but I don't think I can fit in Marbella. Also, while I like nice beaches, I see them regularly at home, and my wife and I aren't beach lounging people.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on November 04, 2014, 02:02:03 PM
Besides for the beaches in BCN, what activities besides the Park Guell, Las Ramblas and Jewish tour do you recommend? I might be able to spend Tue night through Thu morning and spend less time in SVQ but I don't think I can fit in Marbella. Also, while I like nice beaches, I see them regularly at home, and my wife and I aren't beach lounging people.
Didn't really do the beaches in BCN but the city is great just think of a dated L.A. There's a whole port at the end of La Ramblas. I don't know I just loved walking around there is also a very cool gondola that goes from atop the mountain over the water
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2014, 02:05:12 PM
Didn't really do the beaches in BCN but the city is great just think of a dated L.A. There's a whole port at the end of La Ramblas. I don't know I just loved walking around there is also a very cool gondola that goes from atop the mountain over the water
So you think it's worth it to spend an extra night and morning there and just an afternoon/night in SVQ?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 04, 2014, 08:31:24 PM
The Palace was very nice. Retiro Park was great. I think there is what to do in MAD alone and I didn't even get to a "unique" bullfight/show.
i was weighing the options. i never said theres nothing to do, but rather i cant say there are things that are don't miss, as opposed to toledo .besides for a bullfight if you like gore, (and yes its really gory i can upload the video if anyone wants) and possibly flamenco which you can get in other cities as well
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on November 04, 2014, 08:42:11 PM
i was weighing the options. i never said theres nothing to do, but rather i cant say there are things that are don't miss, as opposed to toledo .besides for a bullfight if you like gore, (and yes its really gory i can upload the video if anyone wants) and possibly flamenco which you can get in other cities as well

Would like to see it if you put it up. How much did you pay for tickets?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 05, 2014, 02:21:58 AM
How much did you pay for tickets?
42.3 euros in the summer of '09. summer is when the amateurs fight and that probably was the case for the extra gore. it was also for a 'sombre' (shade) seat
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 05, 2014, 09:31:27 AM
Train or fly between MAD & BCN? The price is comprable. Anyone have experience?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 05, 2014, 09:35:28 AM
Train or fly between MAD & BCN? The price is comprable. Anyone have experience?
i took train. in general, train is preferable unless its crazy long
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 05, 2014, 09:48:46 AM
i took train. in general, train is preferable unless its crazy long
Thanks. I guess it's doable MAD-BCN. BCN-SVQ is really long. Why do you think it's preferable? Train stations are in the city center?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 05, 2014, 11:46:59 AM
Thanks. I guess it's doable MAD-BCN. BCN-SVQ is really long. Why do you think it's preferable? Train stations are in the city center?
I don't think SVQs is, but you'll have to go there for the car rentals most likely.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 05, 2014, 11:56:22 AM
I don't think SVQs is, but you'll have to go there for the car rentals most likely.
Huh? MAD-BCN by train is 2:45. BCN-SVQ by train is 5:30 minutes going through MAD. I don't think I understand what you meant.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 05, 2014, 12:15:17 PM
Why do you think it's preferable? Train stations are in the city center?
generally
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 05, 2014, 12:20:59 PM
Huh? MAD-BCN by train is 2:45. BCN-SVQ by train is 5:30 minutes going through MAD. I don't think I understand what you meant.
Was talking about the SVQ train station not being "in town". Sorry I was answering the second part of your question.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 05, 2014, 12:39:35 PM
Was talking about the SVQ train station not being "in town". Sorry I was answering the second part of your question.
Got it. It still looks closer than the airport, but that's not really relevant to my needs.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 05, 2014, 12:58:18 PM
Got it. It still looks closer than the airport, but that's not really relevant to my needs.
It is, that's why we went from there (and I think cheaper, too).
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 05, 2014, 12:59:21 PM
It is, that's why we went from there (and I think cheaper, too).
That's the Santa Justa station, right? Does the name ring a bell?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 05, 2014, 01:32:30 PM
That's the Santa Justa station, right? Does the name ring a bell?
Yep.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on November 06, 2014, 03:13:06 AM
Hi,
Any suggestions, tips or directions for taking the train from the Barcelona airport to LA Rambla ? Or from Barcelona to Girona ? Where and when to buy tickets ? 
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on November 06, 2014, 07:58:13 AM
Hi,
Any suggestions, tips or directions for taking the train from the Barcelona airport to LA Rambla ? Or from Barcelona to Girona ? Where and when to buy tickets ?
1. Take the Aeroplane bus to the city, then taxi or train to LA Rambla.

And to Barcelona there are 1-2 trains every hr from the Central Station.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on November 06, 2014, 10:40:39 AM
1. Take the Aeroplane bus to the city, then taxi or train to LA Rambla.

And to Barcelona there are 1-2 trains every hr from the Central Station.

the aeroplane takes you to la ramblas
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 10, 2014, 01:23:30 AM
We'll have two nights in BCN (getting in late the first night).

What is better for sightseeing and getting to/from the airport?

1) Staying at Le Meridien in Las Ramblas for 16k/night
2) Staying at 4 Points for 7k/night.

General Question: Is it better to stay closer to "town" in BCN and SVQ or is taking a bus in not really that bad?

When we were in Rome and Venice we stayed at the Westin and found it to be a bit of a walk to the Ghetto but a good location overall.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 10, 2014, 06:56:23 AM
We'll have two nights in BCN (getting in late the first night).

What is better for sightseeing and getting to/from the airport?

1) Staying at Le Meridien in Las Ramblas for 16k/night
2) Staying at 4 Points for 7k/night.

General Question: Is it better to stay closer to "town" in BCN and SVQ or is taking a bus in not really that bad?

When we were in Rome and Venice we stayed at the Westin and found it to be a bit of a walk to the Ghetto but a good location overall.
Jewish tour is near La Ramblas, Park Guell is a train ride from either hotel. Shul and (terrible) grocery are really far from 4P (and no good bus/train) but may not be too bad from La Ramblas with a train.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 10, 2014, 11:18:44 AM
Jewish tour is near La Ramblas, Park Guell is a train ride from either hotel. Shul and (terrible) grocery are really far from 4P (and no good bus/train) but may not be too bad from La Ramblas with a train.
Thanks. I don't think we'll end up buying anything from the grocery store there. If the shul is a train ride away either way I doubt I'd end up going.  Sounds like it's probably not worth the extra 9k/night for the Le Meridien (even though it's a nicer hotel and technically a better "deal" points wise).  :-\
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 10, 2014, 12:02:30 PM
Now the question is the 4Points for 7k/night or
Silken Diagonal (http://www.booking.com/hotel/es/silkendiagonalbarcelona.en-us.html?aid=311088;label=silkendiagonalbarcelona-6Den9b8R6r4zLI850CM9CwS25368063363%3Apl%3Ata%3Ap1%3Ap2%3Aac%3Aap1t3%3Aneg;sid=1c8fa889d7fa6c92893e80113ad62916;dcid=1;checkin=2015-06-30;checkout=2015-07-02;ucfs=1;srfid=00b7b1c4ee11072c94249280bcb8dadba2f1f682X1;highlight_room=9160001) for AED275 (~$75)/night with the MS deal.

Hmmm.... :-\
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 11, 2014, 01:39:24 PM
We'll be arriving in BCN on Tue night.

Does it make sense to fly BCN-SVQ on Wed night 9:35-11:25pm or Thu morning 9:15-11:05am? I'm thinking more in terms of ease of getting to the airport in BCN and to the hotel in SVQ. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 11, 2014, 02:32:26 PM
We'll be arriving in BCN on Tue night.

Does it make sense to fly BCN-SVQ on Wed night 9:35-11:25pm or Thu morning 9:15-11:05am? I'm thinking more in terms of ease of getting to the airport in BCN and to the hotel in SVQ. Any suggestions?
Thursday morning will be early, but doable. You're probably going to cab from SVQ-hotel so arriving in the middle of the day shouldn't have too much traffic. Leaving Wednesday night doesn't really give you a full day in BCN, which may be annoying.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 11, 2014, 02:33:45 PM
Thursday morning will be early, but doable. You're probably going to cab from SVQ-hotel so arriving in the middle of the day shouldn't have too much traffic. Leaving Wednesday night doesn't really give you a full day in BCN, which may be annoying.
Thanks. I just wanted to make sure it was doable leaving BCN that early. Was the metro hard to the airport from the 4points?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 11, 2014, 02:35:52 PM
Thanks. I just wanted to make sure it was doable leaving BCN that early. Was the metro hard to the airport from the 4points?
Was about 15 minute walk which was okay with just the backpack and wheely carryon. I believe (see my TR) that it only goes to 1 terminal, so we had to take a shuttle at the airport to the right terminal, but I thought it was worth saving the taxi money.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 11, 2014, 02:38:06 PM
Was about 15 minute walk which was okay with just the backpack and wheely carryon. I believe (see my TR) that it only goes to 1 terminal, so we had to take a shuttle at the airport to the right terminal, but I thought it was worth saving the taxi money.
Right. I remember. It looks like it takes an hour, so if we need to be at the airport 2 hours before it looks like leaving at 6:00am. Yikes!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 11, 2014, 02:51:08 PM
Right. I remember. It looks like it takes an hour, so if we need to be at the airport 2 hours before it looks like leaving at 6:00am. Yikes!
Right. Or taxi...
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 11, 2014, 03:14:38 PM
Right. Or taxi...
Urgh, maybe we'll have to, although I generally don't mind waking up early DW may not be too pleased.

Also, I just noticed UberPop is available in MAD & BCN for €1 base fare, €0.15/min + €0.65/km, min fare €3, making the trip only €16-23, better than a taxi.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on November 12, 2014, 12:00:08 AM
I didn't use the metro at all I was scared of getting pick-pocketed my friend had $100 stolen walking down la ramblas
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2014, 12:02:02 AM
I didn't use the metro at all I was scared of getting pick-pocketed my friend had $100 stolen walking down la ramblas
What did you do? Walk and taxi? How long ago were you there?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on November 12, 2014, 09:11:12 AM
What did you do? Walk and taxi? How long ago were you there?
The best way to get around is definitely scooters. We were there for I believe 4 days only had scooters for one took the bus from the airport walked and taxi-ed the rest. There are tour buses with day passes that you can get on and off at any time and they cover the whole city
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2014, 09:30:42 AM
The best way to get around is definitely scooters. We were there for I believe 4 days only had scooters for one took the bus from the airport walked and taxi-ed the rest. There are tour buses with day passes that you can get on and off at any time and they cover the whole city
You can rent a scooter? Seems dangerous.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on November 12, 2014, 11:46:00 AM
You can rent a scooter? Seems dangerous.
It's more dangerous to drive a car than to drive a scooter there. 90% of the vehicles in that city are scooters
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 12, 2014, 11:49:37 AM
It's more dangerous to drive a car than to drive a scooter there. 90% of the vehicles in that city are scooters
I felt that way in GIB, not in BCN.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2014, 12:10:39 PM
It's more dangerous to drive a car than to drive a scooter there. 90% of the vehicles in that city are scooters
I wouldn't be driving in BCN, just using public transit.

I felt that way in GIB, not in BCN.
I don't really have a choice about driving in GIB. Que será, será.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 12, 2014, 12:16:55 PM
it shouldnt be a problem to use public transportation
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2014, 12:18:44 PM
it shouldnt be a problem to use public transportation
But is it safe.

I didn't use the metro at all I was scared of getting pick-pocketed my friend had $100 stolen walking down la ramblas
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 12, 2014, 12:27:25 PM
People say the same about NYC
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2014, 12:33:31 PM
People say the same about NYC
I know, and about just walking around in Italy. I've done both and never felt unsafe or been pick-pocketed.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 12, 2014, 12:37:23 PM
I know, and about just walking around in Italy. I've done both and never felt unsafe or been pick-pocketed.
Yeah just do the same thing as you did in Italy - hold bag tight, keep valuable in inner pockets and iy"h you'll be fine. I actually know someone whose phone was pickpocketed in Spain a few weeks before I went last year, but yeah, you just gotta try to be careful.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 12, 2014, 12:52:42 PM
But is it safe.

i didnt have a problem bH. just be vigilant and watch your valuables. i saw someone get pick pocketed in barcelona but it was out in the open
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2014, 12:54:01 PM
Yeah just do the same thing as you did in Italy - hold bag tight, keep valuable in inner pockets and iy"h you'll be fine. I actually know someone whose phone was pickpocketed in Spain a few weeks before I went last year, but yeah, you just gotta try to be careful.
Sounds like a plan. DW's boss's 2 year old iphone was just pickpocketed from her purse at Target a few days ago. I guess no where's safe.  ;)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 12, 2014, 12:57:54 PM
sorry to not be pc, but if you see gypsy in the vicinity, be sure to hold on to your wallet a bit tighter
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2014, 01:02:07 PM
sorry to not be pc, but if you see gypsy in the vicinity, be sure to hold on to your wallet a bit tighter
Don't worry. I was told the same thing in Rome, but I didn't see any obviously Hunchback-of-Notre-Dame-style gypsies. I usually carry my wallet in a front pocket. I have trouble getting it out sometimes, so I doubt anyone else could reach in and take it without my knowledge.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 12, 2014, 01:05:50 PM
Hunchback-of-Notre-Dame-style gypsies.
thats not what they look like
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2014, 01:07:43 PM
thats not what they look like
I know, but I can't recognize them the way locals can. Any tips?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 12, 2014, 02:29:10 PM
I know, but I can't recognize them the way locals can. Any tips?
youll know when you see them
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2014, 02:29:48 PM
youll know when you see them
Thanks.  ::) That's being very PC.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 12, 2014, 02:38:56 PM
Thanks.  ::) That's being very PC.
alol
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on December 14, 2014, 11:00:13 AM
any kosher food in madrid?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 14, 2014, 11:03:28 AM
any kosher food in madrid?
Did you try Google? http://www.jewishmadrid.com
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on December 14, 2014, 11:08:54 AM
i did. just wasnt sure if it was current.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 14, 2014, 11:12:48 AM
any kosher food in madrid?
La Escudilla is under the supervision of the Rabbi of the 1 Orthodox Shul in Madrid. You may want to find someone who knows him and whether he is trustworthy. The red bag (original) of Lays potato chips is Kosher (as per Mashgiach of a restaurant in Barcelona) as well as Coke.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on December 22, 2014, 06:46:40 PM
whats the weather like in southern spain in january? is it rainy or overcast?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 22, 2014, 06:51:33 PM
whats the weather like in southern spain in january? is it rainy or overcast?
Ymmv.
http://www.barcelona-tourist-guide.com/en/weather/weather-january.html
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on December 25, 2014, 10:17:23 PM
Does anyone know of someone that would host my wife and I in GIB for shabbos in January. If not for sleep then just meals. Additionally, which hotels are near the Jewish community?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 25, 2014, 10:26:03 PM
Does anyone know of someone that would host my wife and I in GIB for shabbos in January. If not for sleep then just meals. Additionally, which hotels are near the Jewish community?
I don't know about people for meals, buy if you find anything I'm interested. We're going in July.

In terms of hotels, the Eliott is nice and pretty close to shuls. That's where we plan on staying.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 25, 2014, 10:46:54 PM
I don't know about people for meals, buy if you find anything I'm interested. We're going in July.

In terms of hotels, the Eliott is the nicest option and very close to shuls. That's where we plan on staying.
FTFY ;)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 25, 2014, 10:50:50 PM
FTFY ;)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 26, 2014, 06:33:31 AM
we ate by the rabbi, r' hassid, try to get in touch with him
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 26, 2014, 07:59:32 AM
I'll be in Barcelona in March for the WGSMA, WMC Show. I will be traveling with someone that has Yortzeit and needs to have a Minyan 3x a day, anyone know if Chabad or anywhere else has a guaranteed Minyan 3x a day?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 26, 2014, 08:37:04 AM
I'll be in Barcelona in March for the WGSMA, WMC Show. I will be traveling with someone that has Yortzeit and needs to have a Minyan 3x a day, anyone know if Chabad or anywhere else has a guaranteed Minyan 3x a day?
I think there's only Chabad and Communidad Israelita de Barcelona, and the latter definitely isn't reliable for a Minyan.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on December 27, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
FTFY ;)
No it's not http://sunborn.com/sunborn-gibraltar/
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 27, 2014, 09:45:04 PM
No it's not http://sunborn.com/sunborn-gibraltar/
Oops sorry. I guess it may not be an option though for one staying over Shabbos.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on December 27, 2014, 11:36:58 PM
I know, but I can't recognize them the way locals can. Any tips?
Beware of anyone trying to sell you these little sprigs of leaves.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on December 27, 2014, 11:39:06 PM
whats the weather like in southern spain in january? is it rainy or overcast?
It varies. In my experience, it was relatively mild (as compared to NYC). Just come prepared with layers.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 27, 2014, 11:39:07 PM
Beware of anyone trying to sell you these little sprigs of leaves.
Elaborate?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on December 27, 2014, 11:42:16 PM
Does anyone know of someone that would host my wife and I in GIB for shabbos in January. If not for sleep then just meals. Additionally, which hotels are near the Jewish community?
We stayed in the Eliot which worked out perfectly. We got a good deal by booking directly through their website, wifi included.
Also, if you don't find anyone to host you, you can buy food for Shabbos there. Chances are you will get invited by someone in shul or just walking down the street. We were stopped by more than 1 person on Friday making sure we had a place for Shabbos!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on December 27, 2014, 11:44:20 PM
Elaborate?
There are women in some areas that come up to you and try to give you sprigs of leaves. They won't leave you alone until you give them money and may have their friends nearby waiting until you're distracted. It's best just to ignore.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 27, 2014, 11:53:31 PM
There are women in some areas that come up to you and try to give you sprigs of leaves. They won't leave you alone until you give them money and may have their friends nearby waiting until you're distracted. It's best just to ignore.
Barcelona is the capital of pickpocketing in the world , I had other experiences with pickpocketers, but BH, I was prepared, I kept all my belongings in Pickpocket proof pockets and bags fun Pacsafe.com, and managed to scare them off.

Here are some good tips


http://thesavvybackpacker.com/pickpockets-europe/
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on December 27, 2014, 11:56:39 PM
But is it safe.
We used public transportation in all the major cities. Just be vigilant and you should be fine.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 28, 2014, 12:01:08 AM
We used public transportation in all the major cities. Just be vigilant and you should be fine.
Very Very vigilant
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2014, 01:55:21 AM
Beware of anyone trying to sell you these little sprigs of leaves.
I guess they're kind of like the people in Venice that put roses in your hands and make you pay.
We used public transportation in all the major cities. Just be vigilant and you should be fine.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2014, 01:59:08 AM
Barcelona is the capital of pickpocketing in the world , I had other experiences with pickpocketers, but BH, I was prepared, I kept all my belongings in Pickpocket proof pockets and bags fun Pacsafe.com, and managed to scare them off.

Here are some good tips


http://thesavvybackpacker.com/pickpockets-europe/
Is it really that bad? They say Rome is dangerous in terms of pickpocketers but we didn't have any issues.
Very Very vigilant
I usually just carry my wallet in my front pocket and it's pretty tight, so I'm not worried about it getting stolen. Even I have trouble getting it out some times. Do you think it would be a problem?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 28, 2014, 02:04:26 AM
Is it really that bad? They say Rome is dangerous in terms of pickpocketers but we didn't have any issues.I usually just carry my wallet in my front pocket and it's pretty tight, so I'm not worried about it getting stolen. Even I have trouble getting it out some times. Do you think it would be a problem?
I know people who were robbed in Rome, I even warned someone before he went to be vigilant, but he was robbed anyways. I Guess being pickpocketed in Rome is YMMV   but definitely be vigilant.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2014, 02:15:27 AM
I know people who were robbed in Rome, I even warned someone before he went to be vigilant, but he was robbed anyways. I Guess being pickpocketed in Rome is YMMV   but definitely be vigilant.
Thanks. Do you think it would be easy for someone to pickpocket me based on where my wallet is kept? My hand is always kind of resting on it.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 28, 2014, 02:19:42 AM
Thanks. Do you think it would be easy for someone to pickpocket me based on where my wallet is kept? My hand is always kind of resting on it.
Would probably be difficult to pickpocket in that case,   but what's with your phone and camera, are you just traveling with your wallet?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2014, 02:22:28 AM
Would probably be difficult to pickpocket in that case,   but what's with your phone and camera, are you just traveling with your wallet?
My phone is in the same pocket as my wallet (it's very thin). My camera is in a case in my hand with the wrist strap around my wrist. Does that seem safe?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 28, 2014, 02:31:21 AM
My phone is in the same pocket as my wallet (it's very thin). My camera is in a case in my hand with the wrist strap around my wrist. Does that seem safe?
My father was once in a Taxi in Sao Paulo, my father kept his hands out the window, the drive yelled, pull your hand in!  Thugs can chop your hands off in order to steal your watch.

So, you never know how well trained and talented these pickpocketers can be, some can outright Violently Rob you, which I almost experienced while strolling in the side streets off La Rambla in the night hours.

Not trying to scare you, just warning to be vigilant.

Barcelona is not dangerous, but be aware, Barcelona has the most Talented Pickpocketers walking the same streets as you are and know how to ID a tourist
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2014, 02:34:28 AM
My father was once in a Taxi in Sao Paulo, my father kept his hands out the window, the drive yelled, pull your hand in!  Thugs can chop your hands off in order to steal your watch.

So, you never know how well trained these pickpocketers can be, some can outright Violently Rob you, which I almost experienced while strolling in the side streets off La Rambla in the night hours.

Not trying to scare you, just warning to be vigilant.

Barcelona is not dangerous, but be aware, Barcelona has the most Talented Pickpocketers walking the same streets as you are and know how to ID a tourist
Thanks for the tips. FWIW I have been told many times that I don't look like a tourist, at least an American tourist, in Europe. Maybe because I'm fluent in Spanish and don't act/dress like a typical tourist, idk. Either way thanks for the pointers.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 28, 2014, 08:28:29 AM
I kept all my belongings in Pickpocket proof pockets and bags fun Pacsafe.com,
appreciate the yiddish
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 28, 2014, 08:32:08 AM


appreciate the yiddish

That's a typo.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on December 29, 2014, 11:27:30 PM
whats the shabbos situation in madrid? Does the chabad offer meals? Is there a minyan?
Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 29, 2014, 11:32:08 PM
whats the shabbos situation in madrid? Does the chabad offer meals? Is there a minyan?
Thanks
The non-Chabad Shul had a decent Minyan during the week, so I imagine they get a Minyan on Shabbos.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on December 30, 2014, 10:27:34 PM
So is there a consensus as to the kashrus of the restaurant in Madrid? Is there someone knowledgable who can be asked?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 30, 2014, 10:43:01 PM
So is there a consensus as to the kashrus of the restaurant in Madrid? Is there someone knowledgable who can be asked?
That's been the question here for a long time... :(
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 31, 2014, 07:44:08 AM
So is there a consensus as to the kashrus of the restaurant in Madrid? Is there someone knowledgable who can be asked?
no consensus. the local chabad holds its no good, the supervising agency holds it is good
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on December 31, 2014, 09:40:09 AM
well hows the food?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on January 04, 2015, 04:04:37 PM
well hows the food?
Good
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on January 04, 2015, 08:31:46 PM
anyone know a good tour of cordoba?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on January 06, 2015, 10:02:53 AM
its interesting that the chabad of Barcelona posts the Kosher list under the chief rabbi of Madrid which includes the kosher restaurant in Madrid...
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 06, 2015, 10:27:43 AM
its interesting that the chabad of Barcelona posts the Kosher list under the chief rabbi of Madrid which includes the kosher restaurant in Madrid...
Very curious. Did you ask the chabad rabbi in Barcelona about that?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on January 06, 2015, 05:29:01 PM
anyone know a good tour of cordoba?

cordoba doesnt require a tour guide in my opinion. you can walk 15 minutes from the train station to the alcazar, roman Bridge, Synagoga, etc... easy to take the bus also for a few euros which runs around the main tourist sites.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on January 11, 2015, 10:09:16 PM
Can anyone recommend a good restaurant in Gibraltar?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 12, 2015, 06:46:28 AM
Can anyone recommend a good restaurant in Gibraltar?
There's a GIB thread these days, btw.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on January 19, 2015, 05:46:21 PM
Highly recommend the Hotel Alfonso XIII in Seville. Gorgeous place oozing old world charm.(in a room now)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 19, 2015, 05:57:08 PM
Highly recommend the Hotel Alfonso XIII in Seville. Gorgeous place oozing old world charm.(in a room now)
Enjoy! SVQ is beautiful - make sure to get to the Alcazar. And enjoy GIB!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on January 19, 2015, 06:11:19 PM
Did GIB today and arcos de la frontera( a white hill town) today. Both were great
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on January 19, 2015, 06:38:46 PM
Did GIB today and arcos de la frontera( a white hill town) today. Both were great
You did GIB in one day?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 19, 2015, 06:45:02 PM
You did GIB in one day?
Nothing to do there more than a day
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on January 19, 2015, 07:02:34 PM
Went to the top of the rock. Would've liked to see the Gibraltar museum but didn't get a chance. We were only there for half a day.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on January 21, 2015, 07:37:27 AM
Just took an amazing tour of Seville with Moises Hasson. Definitely recommend to really to get a good perspective on Jewish life in the city.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Moishele on January 21, 2015, 11:44:26 AM
So is there a consensus as to the kashrus of the restaurant in Madrid? Is there someone knowledgable who can be asked?

Yes, the restaurant La Escudilla is kosher, under the strict supervision of the Chief Rabbi of Spain (see Teuda attached).  It's more a matter of politics that Chabad Rabbi (Rab Goldstein) does not approve it. He would offer shabat hospitality in his house (upon payment, though)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on January 21, 2015, 12:23:52 PM
Just took an amazing tour of Seville with Moises Hasson. Definitely recommend to really to get a good perspective on Jewish life in the city.
he gives a very nice tour. did he take you to the parking garage tomb ?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 21, 2015, 12:25:51 PM
Yes, the restaurant La Escudilla is kosher, under the strict supervision of the Chief Rabbi of Spain (see Teuda attached).  It's more a matter of politics that Chabad Rabbi (Rab Goldstein) does not approve it. He would offer shabat hospitality in his house (upon payment, though)
The issue is not knowing who the Rabbi is. Without knowing much about him, anyone can just write a paper that says glatt kosher, especially in countries where the government probably doesn't oversee the kashrus industry as intensely as America.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on January 21, 2015, 03:57:05 PM
he gives a very nice tour. did he take you to the parking garage tomb ?
Yep. I even told him about dansdeals when he asked how I got his name
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 21, 2015, 03:58:34 PM
Yep. I even told him about dansdeals when he asked how I got his name
Which I told him also when I contacted him. He sounded great (and I'm glad you enjoyed) but after paying for tours throughout Europe, I couldn't get myself to fork over another $100pp (something like that) for a tour of a city I never heard of before DDF and the Gibralter-trippers ;)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on January 21, 2015, 04:01:54 PM
I hear that. It was a question but we found it to be well worth it. He said its a 3 hour tour and kept it going for 4.5 hours
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 21, 2015, 06:08:23 PM
Yes, the restaurant La Escudilla is kosher, under the strict supervision of the Chief Rabbi of Spain (see Teuda attached).  It's more a matter of politics that Chabad Rabbi (Rab Goldstein) does not approve it. He would offer shabat hospitality in his house (upon payment, though)
so there isnt a consensus. chabad holds its not good. in that case im not sure what you added
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Moishele on January 22, 2015, 06:41:42 AM
so there isnt a consensus. chabad holds its not good. in that case im not sure what you added

I don't know why I should trust more the Chabad person in Madrid over the Chief Rabbi of Spain who signs this teuda. The Jewish Federation backs the Chief Rabbi. Perhaps if Chabad has a reason for not accepting the kashrut of the restaurant in Madrid, he should let all of us know why. Otherwise, I think this is Lashon Hara.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 22, 2015, 07:18:16 AM
I don't know why I should trust more the Chabad person in Madrid over the Chief Rabbi of Spain who signs this teuda. The Jewish Federation backs the Chief Rabbi.
Finally, the first semblance of reliability - a source that Americans are familiar with and can be further researched. Any links here?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Moishele on January 22, 2015, 09:20:05 AM
Finally, the first semblance of reliability - a source that Americans are familiar with and can be further researched. Any links here?

Yes, you can check the website for the Federation of Jewish Communities in Spain (Orthodox): http://www.fcje.org
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 22, 2015, 01:10:55 PM
I don't know why I should trust more the Chabad person in Madrid over the Chief Rabbi of Spain who signs this teuda. The Jewish Federation backs the Chief Rabbi. Perhaps if Chabad has a reason for not accepting the kashrut of the restaurant in Madrid, he should let all of us know why. Otherwise, I think this is Lashon Hara.
its irrelevant. the question was if there was a consensus. there isnt. end of story

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Moishele on January 22, 2015, 03:17:39 PM
its irrelevant. the question was if there was a consensus. there isnt. end of story
I guess that Chabad should explain why. If not, anyone could place doubts about Kashrut anywhere. For example, I could say that Le Marais or Tavere in New York aren't kosher because the Chieff Rabbi of London says so. Now, there's not consensus about kashrut in Le Marais and Tavere. Right?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on January 22, 2015, 04:35:51 PM
I spoke to numerous people in the region who compared it to a rabbanut level restaurant
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 22, 2015, 04:44:23 PM
I guess that Chabad should explain why. If not, anyone could place doubts about Kashrut anywhere. For example, I could say that Le Marais or Tavere in New York aren't kosher because the Chieff Rabbi of London says so. Now, there's not consensus about kashrut in Le Marais and Tavere. Right?
nu, zug alein the chiluk...

either way, maybe they would explain if someone were to ask them

and there you have it
I spoke to numerous people in the region who compared it to a rabbanut level restaurant
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 15, 2015, 02:51:28 PM
What do people think about using Priceline for a 4* hotel in Barcelona? I can get one with name your own price for $70/night in the Ramblas area.

The reason I'm thinking about this is because now I'm booked at the 4points for 7k SPG/night, but the hotel only goes for €80/night and it's a bit out of the way. One the one hand I'd love to not spend cash out of pocket, but on the other hand I don't want to waste my SPG points on a room that's only €80.

The best SPG value for SPG points is the Le Meridien for 16k SPG/night (the room goes for €306/night). Is it worth it to use 32k for 2 nights there, 14k at the 4 points or NYOP with Priceline?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on February 15, 2015, 02:53:53 PM
I definitely wouldn't stay at a place that's "out of the way".
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 15, 2015, 02:57:31 PM
I definitely wouldn't stay at a place that's "out of the way".
It's not too far out of the way, still near a subway stop. Would you do Priceline or Le Meridien instead?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on February 15, 2015, 03:01:28 PM
At that price point I'd probably do priceline. But I'd first check out what property you are likely to get on better bidding
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 15, 2015, 03:09:27 PM
At that price point I'd probably do priceline. But I'd first check out what property you are likely to get on better bidding
Can't seem to figure out that site (any tips?), but there are tons of 4* properties in the Ramblas area.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: amx on February 15, 2015, 04:26:07 PM
What about 5*
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 15, 2015, 09:44:46 PM
I hear why it's nice to be more in "town" by La Ramblas, but other than the restaurant and the Jewish tour, the other activities are all a subway ride away. Which means that once you have to get on the subway for any activity, who cares if your hotel is also another subway ride away?

Although I'm saying that, for some reason I remember that Barcelona was one city (in addition to Rome) that we regretted being "out of town". That was likely due to the fact that I wanted to get to Minyan and the Shul was yet another "trip" to get to (no convenient subways even - and don't waste your time, they didn't have a consistent Minyan) so to me it felt like we spent a considerable amount of time travelling that if we could have at least had our hotel near something significant (read: La Ramblas and the restaurant) that might have made things a bit easier.

After that back and forth... doing it again and not being in an @Yehuda I-don't-want-to-spend-real-$-on-my-trip kinda mood? I'd rather stay near La Ramblas.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 15, 2015, 09:51:28 PM
What about 5*
5* are at least $120/night.
I hear why it's nice to be more in "town" by La Ramblas, but other than the restaurant and the Jewish tour, the other activities are all a subway ride away. Which means that once you have to get on the subway for any activity, who cares if your hotel is also another subway ride away?

Although I'm saying that, for some reason I remember that Barcelona was one city (in addition to Rome) that we regretted being "out of town". That was likely due to the fact that I wanted to get to Minyan and the Shul was yet another "trip" to get to (no convenient subways even - and don't waste your time, they didn't have a consistent Minyan) so to me it felt like we spent a considerable amount of time travelling that if we could have at least had our hotel near something significant (read: La Ramblas and the restaurant) that might have made things a bit easier.

After that back and forth... doing it again and not being in an @Yehuda I-don't-want-to-spend-real-$-on-my-trip kinda mood? I'd rather stay near La Ramblas.
So would you spend the extra SPG or do Priceline?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 15, 2015, 09:56:45 PM
So would you spend the extra SPG or do Priceline?
Hmm that's tough. I'm someone who would use points if I had them, but if you're willing to spend actual cash when you could otherwise points, then the $70 may make sense. SPG to me have always been an enigma though. I got what I could from the signup bonuses and used them all already. I don't know how people always seem to have them, but it does seem like if you could save them for a good C&P value or for a partner transfer (+ 5K) then that's the best way to use them.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 15, 2015, 10:07:26 PM
Hmm that's tough. I'm someone who would use points if I had them, but if you're willing to spend actual cash when you could otherwise points, then the $70 may make sense. SPG to me have always been an enigma though. I got what I could from the signup bonuses and used them all already. I don't know how people always seem to have them, but it does seem like if you could save them for a good C&P value or for a partner transfer (+ 5K) then that's the best way to use them.
To me $70/night can be reimbursed with Arrival+.  With SPG, I have done some MS and AmEx accidentally gave me 30k for no reason, but besides that I don't have that much left. The thing is there are so many 4* hotels in Las Ramblas it could be a toss up, especially considering that Le Maridien is considered 5*. Hmm I guess I should figure out how much a 5* would go for.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 16, 2015, 12:22:05 AM
Just go to the W... ;)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 16, 2015, 01:38:52 AM
Just go to the W... ;)
Lol
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on February 17, 2015, 07:40:29 AM
@yehoshua
What did you end up doing about a hotel?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 08:41:54 AM
@yehoshua
What did you end up doing about a hotel?
Still deciding. I want to do Priceline, but many 4* hotels are around $70/night without it.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 17, 2015, 08:53:23 AM
We rented an apt for cheap near the chabad
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 09:30:16 AM
We rented an apt for cheap near the chabad
Define cheap and "we. "
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 17, 2015, 09:57:46 AM
Sorry for the ambiguity. My wife and I rented a 3 bdrm apt for around $90 a night
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 10:50:18 AM
Sorry for the ambiguity. My wife and I rented a 3 bdrm apt for around $90 a night
Not bad. Did you rent from airbnb/homeaway/vrbo? Link? How and where was it?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 17, 2015, 11:04:39 AM
Was in the soccer stadium area.more residential but still not too far away from ramblas Worked out well. The owners were very helpful and accommodating. Was from airbnb
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 11:11:18 AM
Was in the soccer stadium area.more residential but still not too far away from ramblas Worked out well. The owners were very helpful and accommodating. Was from airbnb
Why did you decide on an apartment as opposed to a hotel? 3 bdrms seems like overkill for 2 people and it doesn't come with free breakfast (which many hotels do, despite most of the food isn't kosher).
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 17, 2015, 11:19:40 AM
Well we wanted to be near chabad for Shabbos. And it was of the cheaper options. All the hotels in that area were pricier. Breakfast was cereal and milk and fruit. Disnt really factor into the decision
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 11:27:11 AM
Well we wanted to be near chabad for Shabbos. And it was of the cheaper options. All the hotels in that area were pricier. Breakfast was cereal and milk and fruit. Disnt really factor into the decision
Got it. Does that chabad have daily minyanim or just on shabbos? Also it looks like the Maccabi restaurant is in Las Ramblas, not near chabad. Was it far from you?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 17, 2015, 11:37:23 AM
They have daily minyanim. It was around a 10 min taxi. There probably is a subway but I didnt look into it.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 17, 2015, 11:54:46 AM
IIRC, from talking to Maccabi's Chabad Mashgiach, they only have Shacharis there. And from the turnout at the non-Chabad Shul, I wouldn't be surprised if Chabad had trouble putting together a Minyan as well.

But Yehoshua, if you end up deciding that you want to attempt Shacharis with a Minyan, then definitely don't stay at 4 Points. It will be a big hassle to have the hotel not near Shul which is not near La Ramblas which is not near Park Guell which is not near... You get the point. I would say to try and stay near at least something and that something should ideally be something you plan on doing a few times (Minyan, restaurant).
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 12:00:12 PM
IIRC, from talking to Maccabi's Chabad Mashgiach, they only have Shacharis there. And from the turnout at the non-Chabad Shul, I wouldn't be surprised if Chabad had trouble putting together a Minyan as well.

But Yehoshua, if you end up deciding that you want to attempt Shacharis with a Minyan, then definitely don't stay at 4 Points. It will be a big hassle to have the hotel not near Shul which is not near La Ramblas which is not near Park Guell which is not near... You get the point. I would say to try and stay near at least something and that something should ideally be something you plan on doing a few times (Minyan, restaurant).
Got it. At this point I've kind of given up at staying at the 4 Points. It looks like it's between booking a 4* place or using Priceline.  It's too bad the shul and restaurant are not near each other, but since the restaurant is in Las Ramblas and that looks like the 'main' area I'm looking into staying near there. The soccer stadium area is near the shul as ethana pointed out, but we'll probably go the the restaurant late when we arrive and the next night as well vs. only one shachris. Man, Rome was convenient for Mincha/Maariv being right near the restaurants!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 17, 2015, 12:07:54 PM
Got it. At this point I've kind of given up at staying at the 4 Points. It looks like it's between booking a 4* place or using Priceline.  It's too bad the shul and restaurant are not near each other, but since the restaurant is in Las Ramblas and that looks like the 'main' area I'm looking into staying near there. The soccer stadium area is near the shul as ethana pointed out, but we'll probably go the the restaurant late when we arrive and the next night as well vs. only one shachris. Man, Rome was convenient for Mincha/Maariv being right near the restaurants!
Yes! Although not convenient for one who stayed a 40 minutes subway ride outside the city  :( Venice also isn't too convenient in terms of the points hotels being 30 min away from the restaurants/Minyan.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 12:09:51 PM
Yes! Although not convenient for one who stayed a 40 minutes subway ride outside the city  :( Venice also isn't too convenient in terms of the points hotels being 30 min away from the restaurants/Minyan.
True, but at least in both Venice and Rome there were shuls near the restaurants. Barcelona seems to spread them out.

In terms of prettier neighborhoods though, is Las Ramblas nicer/more popular than the soccer stadium area?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 17, 2015, 12:10:38 PM
We thought was ramblas was not pretty at all with nothing to do there.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 12:11:56 PM
We thought was ramblas was not pretty at all with nothing to do there.
So why are there so many nice hotels there? I know you rented an apartment, but was the neighborhood you stayed in nicer? Which neighborhood would you recommend, even of the ones you didn't stay in?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 17, 2015, 12:22:04 PM
I think it's because it's the center of the city and lots of shopping. But in my opinion it wasn't particularly nice.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 12:36:58 PM
I think it's because it's the center of the city and lots of shopping. But in my opinion it wasn't particularly nice.
Hmm...So the nice neighborhood had more greenery? What made it nicer?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 17, 2015, 12:39:26 PM
I would say quieter and not as sleazy and less pickpockets
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 12:43:09 PM
I would say quieter and not as sleazy and less pickpockets
What makes shops sleazy? Would you say it's like the Westin area in Rome?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 17, 2015, 01:34:07 PM
The shops aren't sleazy although there are certain establishments that could be considered that.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 01:34:46 PM
The shops aren't sleazy although there are certain establishments that could be considered that.
Can you compare the areas to another city?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 17, 2015, 01:38:00 PM
Downtown Athens I would say. I wasn't too enamored although plenty of people are so it could just be me. But if ease of access to maccabi is what you're looking for then that's the place to be.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 01:55:03 PM
Downtown Athens I would say. I wasn't too enamored although plenty of people are so it could just be me. But if ease of access to maccabi is what you're looking for then that's the place to be.
Hmm, I haven't been to Athens, just Rome, London, Venice, & Zurich, Florence in Europe. Another thing we want is easy access to the airport. I know there's a bus that goes directly, but it seems like both neighborhoods have good access.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 17, 2015, 01:58:44 PM
I didn't find La Ramblas sleazy or a not-nice neighborhood. It's one long strip of pedestrian mall. The stores are classic, the booths in the street are just as "sleazy" as a booth in NYC.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 17, 2015, 02:27:43 PM
Well delicias isn't kosher anymore. If that's what the other option is
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 17, 2015, 02:27:55 PM
For God's sake! Maccabi is not the restaurant you want to go to!
:o :o :o
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 02:33:54 PM
For God's sake! Maccabi is not the restaurant you want to go to!
Where would you recommend? Jewish Barcelona (http://www.jewishbarcelona.org/) only lists Maccabi.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 17, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Delicius and the dairy place are both fantastic and the Mashgiach actually knows what he's doing
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 17, 2015, 04:07:32 PM
Delicius isn't kisher anymore. I spoke to the owner.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 04:08:47 PM
Delicius and the dairy place are both 10x better than Maccabi and the Mashgiach actually knows what he's doing
What's the name of the dairy place? I'd like that better anyway.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 17, 2015, 05:14:29 PM
Delicius and the dairy place are both 10x better than Maccabi and the Mashgiach actually knows what he's doing
You've ranked on the Mashgiach at this place for quite some time. When was the last time you went into a restaurant and the Mashgiach wasn't just some 20-year old bum who couldn't get a better job?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 17, 2015, 05:29:48 PM
Delicius isn't kisher anymore. I spoke to the owner.
Try this place, Shalom,  food is really good.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g187497-d3977025-r182976072-Shalom-Barcelona_Catalonia.html
Delicius and the dairy place are both 10x better than Maccabi and the Mashgiach actually knows what he's doing

What's the name of the dairy place? I'd like that better anyway.

You've ranked on the Mashgiach at this place for quite some time. When was the last time you went into a restaurant and the Mashgiach wasn't just some 20-year old bum who couldn't get a better job?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 05:31:31 PM
Try this place, Shalom,  food is really good.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g187497-d3977025-r182976072-Shalom-Barcelona_Catalonia.html
What about this (http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g187497-d3977025-r209835771-Shalom-Barcelona_Catalonia.html#REVIEWS) review?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 17, 2015, 05:34:51 PM
What about this (http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g187497-d3977025-r209835771-Shalom-Barcelona_Catalonia.html#REVIEWS) review?
Weird, I was there this past March. Also, there is a review from September,  so I guess PUTPAC tomorrow to find out if they are still around. 

Or call chabad and ask. That's what I did
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 05:36:53 PM
The more I've looked the more I've come to the conclusion that * ratings mean next to nothing. Some 4* hotels look old and nasty while others look nice.  Same with 5* places.

I really wanted to do Priceline NYOP, but now I'm nervous that's not such a good idea. Could be we get a nice place, but I don't want to end up in a dump.

Now I'm not sure what to do. I guess airbnb is an option, but we'll be arriving late and I wasn't sure how that would work. Le Meridien is also an option, but not the best use of points. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 17, 2015, 06:02:09 PM
I apologize I mixed up Maccabi and Shalom, I have never been to Maccabi.
You've ranked on the Mashgiach at this place for quite some time. When was the last time you went into a restaurant and the Mashgiach wasn't just some 20-year old bum who couldn't get a better job?
Unless the restaurant is under a reputable Hashgacha I have never eaten at a restaurant without speaking to the Mashgiach first and confirming he knows what he's doing. For the record any restaurant without aMashgiach who knows what he's doing is probably treif.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 17, 2015, 06:21:11 PM
I apologize I mixed up Maccabi and Shalom, I have never been to Maccabi.Unless the restaurant is under a reputable Hashgacha I have never eaten at a restaurant without speaking to the Mashgiach first and confirming he knows what he's doing. For the record any restaurant without aMashgiach who knows what he's doing is probably treif.
Do you differentiate between pareve/dairy/meat places?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on February 18, 2015, 02:22:23 AM
Do you differentiate between pareve/dairy/meat places?
Really depends where, in Israel there could be problems with everything but lower caliber when it comes to dairy/parve in America there's much less to be worried about and there are more restaurants with good hashgachos
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 18, 2015, 11:02:30 AM
Still not sure how to get MAD-BCN.
Option 1-Train,  costs $50-70, takes 3 hours, doesn't cost must to get to/from train stations, tickets won't be on sale until end of April (for my dates at end of June)
Option 2a-paid flight, costs $74, takes 1 hour, add 1.5 hours for check-in, costs more to get to/from airports, tickets are on sale now
Option 2b-Avios flight, costs 4.5k avios +$25, but given a rate of 1.2-1.5cpp that's $54-67.50+$25 making it more expensive. The only benefit is it comes with a free bag I believe.

Any thoughts/ideas? Also FWIW, I for motion sick on the train in Italy.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 18, 2015, 01:35:56 PM
i took the train and enjoyed it
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 18, 2015, 02:46:59 PM
i took the train and enjoyed it
How much was it?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 18, 2015, 03:20:16 PM
How much was it?
was in 2009 so probably irrelevant
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 18, 2015, 03:21:29 PM
was in 2009 so probably irrelevant
Definitely, but do you recall it being a lot cheaper than flying?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 18, 2015, 03:31:29 PM
Definitely, but do you recall it being a lot cheaper than flying?
i dont recall that
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on February 18, 2015, 04:00:02 PM
Still not sure how to get MAD-BCN.
Option 1-Train,  costs $50-70, takes 3 hours, doesn't cost must to get to/from train stations, tickets won't be on sale until end of April (for my dates at end of June)
Option 2a-paid flight, costs $74, takes 1 hour, add 1.5 hours for check-in, costs more to get to/from airports, tickets are on sale now
Option 2b-Avios flight, costs 4.5k avios +$25, but given a rate of 1.2-1.5cpp that's $54-67.50+$25 making it more expensive. The only benefit is it comes with a free bag I believe.

Any thoughts/ideas? Also FWIW, I for motion sick on the train in Italy.
If you were motion sick on the train in Italy the trains aren't a whole lot different.
If that's not something you're concerned about then take the train all in it's a more comfortable enjoyable experience in my opinion plus door to door it will probably be faster then flying.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 18, 2015, 04:15:42 PM
If you were motion sick on the train in Italy the trains aren't a whole lot different.
If that's not something you're concerned about then take the train all in it's a more comfortable enjoyable experience in my opinion plus door to door it will probably be faster then flying.
The thing I wasn't sure about was the two different types of train service. One seems more express than the other, despite both being AVE service. Some trains take 2h30m while others take 3h10m. Since I hadn't been on such a high speed train before Italy (and I never got sick from a train before) I assume that slower trains are better. Do you know the difference between the two speeds? Is it really one speed with one making more stops?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: amx on February 19, 2015, 06:56:42 PM
@ yehoshua did you decide were you're staying at in bcn yet? Am planning a trip there mid april and looking at all possibilities as well
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Post by: Yehoshua on February 19, 2015, 07:00:01 PM
@ yehoshua did you decide were you're staying at in bcn yet? Am planning a trip there mid april and looking at all possibilities as well
Looks like Airbnb/VRBO/HomeAway most likely. I found a few places in the Ramblas area for around $100/night ($250 total for 2 nights after you add in service and cleaning fees). The hotels are around the same price but don't look as nice. NYOP on Priceline is too risky for me.

Where did you want to stay?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: amx on February 19, 2015, 07:27:35 PM
not sure thinking about vrbo.. especially since its gonna be with 2 kids
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Oceanblue on February 21, 2015, 05:39:43 PM
The thing I wasn't sure about was the two different types of train service. One seems more express than the other, despite both being AVE service. Some trains take 2h30m while others take 3h10m. Since I hadn't been on such a high speed train before Italy (and I never got sick from a train before) I assume that slower trains are better. Do you know the difference between the two speeds? Is it really one speed with one making more stops?

The difference between the 2h30m and 3h10m is the latter has a few more stops in between to take a little bit longer. the former is going to be more expensive since it has fewer stops.  I'm traveling that route in a few weeks and ended up booking a flight, which came out cheaper for me, for the same amount of travel time (but will probably take longer in total to deal with the airports though). 
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 21, 2015, 09:49:14 PM
If you want a nice hotel in Madrid: the AC Santo Mauro is where it's at
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 21, 2015, 10:43:12 PM
The difference between the 2h30m and 3h10m is the latter has a few more stops in between to take a little bit longer. the former is going to be more expensive since it has fewer stops.  I'm traveling that route in a few weeks and ended up booking a flight, which came out cheaper for me, for the same amount of travel time (but will probably take longer in total to deal with the airports though).
We'll probably just end up flying, too. I forgot about $30 in Orbucks I have to use towards the flights making them cheaper than taking the train.

If you want a nice hotel in Madrid: the AC Santo Mauro is where it's at
Why that hotel specifically?  I was thinking of AC Palacio de Retiro?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 21, 2015, 10:59:20 PM
It's just a really beautiful place. Former dukes palace. We were upgraded to a junior suite which was very nice. It's a 15 min walk to the Shul and on Shabbos the staff was extremely accommodating and helpful.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 21, 2015, 11:06:14 PM
It's just a really beautiful place. Former dukes palace. We were upgraded to a junior suite which was very nice. It's a 15 min walk to the Shul and on Shabbos the staff was extremely accommodating and helpful.
We won't be there for shabbos, so that's a non issue. For us it's about ease of access the airport. How easy is it from that hotel?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 21, 2015, 11:16:27 PM
AC hotels can be booked with Marriott points. Get on that, Yehoshua!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 21, 2015, 11:18:31 PM
All the taxis have a flat rate from the airport to the city. Was pretty painless IIRC
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 21, 2015, 11:18:55 PM
AC hotels can be booked with Marriott points. Get on that, Yehoshua!
I have AC Atocha booked already with Marriott points, thinking of changing to Palacio de Retiro instead.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 21, 2015, 11:25:37 PM
I have AC Atocha booked already with Marriott points, thinking of changing to Palacio de Retiro instead.
Atocha isn't really near anything that we did. Being near the palace would be nice for that activity. Can't remember offhand if the other stuff is near that area.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 22, 2015, 12:20:11 AM
Atocha isn't really near anything that we did. Being near the palace would be nice for that activity. Can't remember offhand if the other stuff is near that area.
The only benefit of being near there is its easy to get to the airport. Is that other AC near the palace?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on February 22, 2015, 01:09:23 PM
Anyone do the gocar tours in Barcelona? Which did you do, which do you recommend?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 22, 2015, 03:07:48 PM
The only benefit of being near there is its easy to get to the airport. Is that other AC near the palace?
Ah, I'm not sure. Gmaps it. I would imagine so if it's named liked that.
Anyone do the gocar tours in Barcelona? Which did you do, which do you recommend?
Someone in this thread definitely talked about GoCars at some point. Search. I'm not sure if it was in BCN and I also think it might have been regarding renting one, not a tour. But might as well look for it.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on February 22, 2015, 06:51:16 PM
Someone in this thread definitely talked about GoCars at some point. Search. I'm not sure if it was in BCN and I also think it might have been regarding renting one, not a tour. But might as well look for it.
Thanks. I was just looking to rent one, not for a whole tour. I thought I saw it somewhere. Turns out it was in Barcelona.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 22, 2015, 06:54:54 PM
Anyone here being in Barcelona next week?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on February 22, 2015, 07:20:07 PM
Anyone here being in Barcelona next week?
I'll be there a little later than that.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 23, 2015, 02:53:05 PM
It's just a really beautiful place. Former dukes palace. We were upgraded to a junior suite which was very nice. It's a 15 min walk to the Shul and on Shabbos the staff was extremely accommodating and helpful.
Not that you stayed anywhere else, but do you think it was worth 35k points/night? Now I'm at the AC Atocha for 20k.

 In terms of getting to/from the airport, I'd prefer to take the metro/renfe and not shell out for a taxi even though it has a fixed price.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 23, 2015, 02:56:26 PM
Well I guess that goes for any luxury hotel; if it's worth the points or not. Marriott points also aren't worth too much so I felt it was worth it. But if you don't need to be near the Shul tgen I'm sure the other AC will suffice.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 23, 2015, 02:59:11 PM
Well I guess that goes for any luxury hotel; if it's worth the points or not. Marriott points also aren't worth too much so I felt it was worth it. But if you don't need to be near the Shul tgen I'm sure the other AC will suffice.
Is the restaurant near the hotel/shul?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 23, 2015, 03:05:50 PM
Around the corner from the shul
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 23, 2015, 03:15:00 PM
Around the corner from the shul
Hmmm, also the location looks better and it's not too far from the metro/train stop (Gmaps says 12 minutes). Just the thought of using half the 70k sign up bonus on one place seems like a lot. It was really that nice?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Oceanblue on February 23, 2015, 03:23:35 PM
Has anyone stayed at the Westin Palace Madrid? I reserved a room with SPG points for next month
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 23, 2015, 03:39:59 PM
Around the corner from the shul
Has anyone stayed at the Westin Palace Madrid? I reserved a room with SPG points for next month
No, but I totally forgot about this hotel. It's available for C+P the night I need. Which is a better deal? The AC Palace or the Westin with C+P?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 23, 2015, 03:50:48 PM
No, but I totally forgot about this hotel. It's available for C+P the night I need. Which is a better deal? The AC Palace or the Westin with C+P?
I stayed at like 5 AC's - they're modern but simple. I imagine a Westin is much nicer, no?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 23, 2015, 03:55:20 PM
I stayed at like 5 AC's - they're modern but simple. I imagine a Westin is much nicer, no?
Probably, but the AC Santo Mauro, Autograph Collection looks nicer than the Westin. Also 35k Marriott (at .7cpp) < 16k SPG (at 2.2cpp), but 35k Marriot ~= 6k SPG + $110, that's why I'm not sure. What would you do though regarding the AC Atocha (20k Marriott) vs the AC Santo Mauro, Autograph Collection (35k)?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 23, 2015, 03:57:46 PM
Probably, but the AC Santo Mauro, Autograph Collection looks nicer than the Westin. Also 35k Marriott (at .7cpp) < 16k SPG (at 2.2cpp), but 35k Marriot ~= 6k SPG + $110, that's why I'm not sure. What would you do though regarding the AC Atocha (20k Marriott) vs the AC Santo Mauro, Autograph Collection (35k)?
See the location of both places and how they are in terms of activities. I thought all ACs were the same level of hotel. Guess not if one is Autograph.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 23, 2015, 04:36:06 PM
See the location of both places and how they are in terms of activities. I thought all ACs were the same level of hotel. Guess not if one is Autograph.
Looks like based on what you did (Retiro Park and the Palace (as well as Plaza Mayor near the Palace) the AC Santo Mauro looks like it's in a better location. Since we only have 1 day in Madrid that's all we'll end up doing anyway. Also, like you, we don't plan on eating at the restaurant for 2 reasons: 1) we'll be bringing food from Italy; and 2) it's almost all fleishig and I don't do that.  Even so, the only potential better hotel option is the AC Palacio del Retiro, but TA says that Santo Mauro is nicer so I'll probably just suck up the 35k and change it to there. The AC Atocha is cheaper, but it seems like the only thing it's near is the train station, which is apparently not a requirement to get to/from the airport. At the AC Santo Mauro you're a 20 minute walk from the Nuevos Ministerios metro stop, where the 8 train leaves from to go to the airport.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 23, 2015, 04:44:19 PM
My wife was all upset; apparently the actor Ryan gosseling stayed in the santo Mauro right after we left.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 23, 2015, 04:45:00 PM
Looks like based on what you did (Retiro Park and the Palace (as well as Plaza Mayor near the Palace) the AC Santo Mauro looks like it's in a better location. Since we only have 1 day in Madrid that's all we'll end up doing anyway. Also, like you, we don't plan on eating at the restaurant for 2 reasons: 1) we'll be bringing food from Italy; and 2) it's almost all fleishig and I don't do that.  Even so, the only potential better hotel option is the AC Palacio del Retiro, but TA says that Santo Mauro is nicer so I'll probably just suck up the 35k and change it to there. The AC Atocha is cheaper, but it seems like the only thing it's near is the train station, which is apparently not a requirement to get to/from the airport. At the AC Santo Mauro you're a 20 minute walk from the Nuevos Ministerios metro stop, where the 8 train leaves from to go to the airport.
Wow, just thinking about those 2 items we did and I got hit with awesome memories. That day in Madrid was really fun - you guys should enjoy!!!!

We definitely did not go through Atocha to get to the airport. Not sure which subway line got us there, but seems like you figured it out. I also ran the airport route by the front desk clerks at basically every hotel and they can give tips that Gmaps might not have.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 23, 2015, 04:57:11 PM
Wow, just thinking about those 2 items we did and I got hit with awesome memories. That day in Madrid was really fun - you guys should enjoy!!!!

We definitely did not go through Atocha to get to the airport. Not sure which subway line got us there, but seems like you figured it out. I also ran the airport route by the front desk clerks at basically every hotel and they can give tips that Gmaps might not have.
Yeah, I got the info directly from the airport's website (http://www.aeropuertomadrid-barajas.com/transportation/madrid-airport-bymetro.htm).
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Oceanblue on February 23, 2015, 05:49:43 PM
Probably, but the AC Santo Mauro, Autograph Collection looks nicer than the Westin. Also 35k Marriott (at .7cpp) < 16k SPG (at 2.2cpp), but 35k Marriot ~= 6k SPG + $110, that's why I'm not sure. What would you do though regarding the AC Atocha (20k Marriott) vs the AC Santo Mauro, Autograph Collection (35k)?

It was only SPG 12,000 pts/night for my dates next month...but it looks like you're going to the busy season
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 23, 2015, 05:51:19 PM
It was only SPG 12,000 pts/night for my dates next month...but it looks like you're going to the busy season
Correct. I just decided to stay at the AC Santo Mauro after all.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 23, 2015, 05:52:15 PM
There ya go
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 23, 2015, 05:54:22 PM
There ya go
Thanks for the tip!!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 23, 2015, 07:14:16 PM
Correct. I just decided to stay at the AC Santo Mauro after all.
Glad you made the decision :)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Oceanblue on February 23, 2015, 07:19:31 PM
If I'm flying into Madrid as my first Europe destination (with Munich layover), whats the best/least costly way to get Euros to start my trip? Are there airport ATMs?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 23, 2015, 07:28:19 PM
If I'm flying into Madrid as my first Europe destination (with Munich layover), whats the best/least costly way to get Euros to start my trip? Are there airport ATMs?
Use a bank that has no/low exchange fee and no ATM fees. It's an airport, of course they have ATMs.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 23, 2015, 07:35:34 PM
Has anyone stayed at the Westin Palace Madrid? I reserved a room with SPG points for next month
yes, loved it. upgraded to a nice big suite too
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on February 23, 2015, 07:45:35 PM
Has anyone stayed at the Westin Palace Madrid? I reserved a room with SPG points for next month

Yes, many years ago.  Great location.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 24, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
Barcelona: Does anyone know if Chabad or  Comunidad Israelita de Barcelona has a daily Minyan for shachris?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on February 24, 2015, 03:43:38 PM
Chabad does
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 24, 2015, 03:53:04 PM
Barcelona: Does anyone know if Chabad or Comunidad Israelita de Barcelona has a daily Minyan for shachris?
They pulled one together after about 1/2 hour wait with no Minyan and only because a few Israeli tourists showed up. Did not even attempt to go out of my way to get there for the rest of my stay.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 24, 2015, 03:56:40 PM
They pulled one together after about 1/2 hour wait with no Minyan and only because a few Israeli tourists showed up. Did not even attempt to go out of my way to get there for the rest of my stay.
And that was during peak tourist season.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on March 01, 2015, 07:51:03 AM
So where do I go for Shachris, Comunidad Israelita de Barcelona or Chabad?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 01, 2015, 10:38:00 AM
So where do I go for Shachris, Comunidad Israelita de Barcelona or Chabad?
Just for reading this thread it seems like the former, but I haven't been yet.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: amx on March 02, 2015, 07:37:56 AM
After reading through the read seems like most people recommend staying on la rambla in barcelona. I've noticed there are decent hotel options around catolinia square/plaza (about 8 min from la rambla) and everyone in the reviews says its a great location. What do you people think of that location??
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 02, 2015, 10:50:03 AM
After reading through the read seems like most people recommend staying on la rambla in barcelona. I've noticed there are decent hotel options around catolinia square/plaza (about 8 min from la rambla) and everyone in the reviews says its a great location. What do you people think of that location??
I haven't been yet, but I got an airbnb place in Las Ramblas near Maccabi Resaurant and Plaça Catalunya. This makes getting food and to/from the airport easy.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: amx on March 02, 2015, 02:27:32 PM
When you going? where you staying? maybe ill just do the same
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 02, 2015, 02:29:43 PM
When you going? where you staying? maybe ill just do the same
June/July. I'll be staying at a place with airbnb. You can find a place that suits your budget.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on March 08, 2015, 11:09:06 PM
I am eager to hear what you guys end up planning / doing.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 09, 2015, 01:43:47 AM
I am eager to hear what you guys end up planning / doing.
More specifically? When are you going?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 09, 2015, 11:54:58 PM
Has anyone done a segway tour in Barcelona? Musement (http://www.musement.com/en/barcelona/barcelona-segway-tour_tour) has some places that offer 1, 2, or 3 hour segway rides that go around the city, beach, and olympic area. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on March 10, 2015, 12:10:16 AM
More specifically? When are you going?

Hopefully MAD and BCN in August.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 10, 2015, 12:15:49 AM
Hopefully MAD and BCN in August.
No wonder you're waiting for me (and others).
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on March 10, 2015, 01:44:55 PM
Just a heads up. All the kosher restaurants in Barcelona (delecias, shalom, kosher club) closed down except for Maccabi.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 10, 2015, 01:47:38 PM
Just a heads up. All the kosher restaurants in Barcelona (delecias, shalom, kosher club) closed down except for Maccabi.
Yup, that's the info I've been going on. Were/are you there recently?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on March 10, 2015, 06:18:46 PM
Yup, that's the info I've been going on. Were/are you there recently?
Posting from BCN right now.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 10, 2015, 07:20:12 PM
Posting from BCN right now.
Ah. Where are you staying?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on March 10, 2015, 07:39:38 PM
Ah. Where are you staying?
Dequesa de Cardona. Booked on Expedia for $100 a night (after PC).
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLMYRCB on March 12, 2015, 08:20:54 PM
Heading to BCN. I have 4 full days. What do you guys recommend? All 4 in BCN and experience the city property (maybe even get a little bored) or split 2 there and 2 in MAD and end up with a bit of each?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on March 14, 2015, 07:06:10 PM
Heading to BCN. I have 4 full days. What do you guys recommend? All 4 in BCN and experience the city property (maybe even get a little bored) or split 2 there and 2 in MAD and end up with a bit of each?
I personally would recommend going to Marbella/GIB over MAD but also think you can be entertained 4 days in BCN
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLMYRCB on March 15, 2015, 09:39:10 AM
I personally would recommend going to Marbella/GIB over MAD but also think you can be entertained 4 days in BCN
Marbella/GIB is too far and not enough time for such a short trip. I have them on my list together with Lisbon one day. Southern Spain will have to wait. But thanx.
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on April 09, 2015, 10:53:13 AM
Does anyone know about kosher food in Mallorca.  It seems that there is a shul and on the website it lists some kosher options....

Anyone have the answer to this?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 11, 2015, 11:52:24 PM
Has anyone heard of this free walking tour (http://www.travelbar.com/es/free-walking-tour/#_=_) or which includes the oldest shul in Europe (http://www.calldebarcelona.org/ingles/eindex.html)?

Looks like the shul website gives you a pretty comprehensive history. How does it compare to the guided tours?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 12, 2015, 06:44:20 AM
Haven't heard of the free tour, but the Shul is covered by the paid tour (that I took). Entrance was free I think only because she works out a deal with them and they give a 10 minute history lesson into the Shul and how they've saved it and preserved it. It's basically a hole in the wall (as per the pic) with folding chairs and a modern Aron, so don't expect a gorgeous, huge, classic European Shul. It's nice/cool to see it, but just saying not to expect much.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 12, 2015, 09:28:41 AM
Haven't heard of the free tour, but the Shul is covered by the paid tour (that I took). Entrance was free I think only because she works out a deal with them and they give a 10 minute history lesson into the Shul and how they've saved it and preserved it. It's basically a hole in the wall (as per the pic) with folding chairs and a modern Aron, so don't expect a gorgeous, huge, classic European Shul. It's nice/cool to see it, but just saying not to expect much.
I wasn't expecting much, but it seems the site gives a good history that sound only be expounded upon by the free tour.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 12, 2015, 09:59:06 AM
I wasn't expecting much, but it seems the site gives a good history that sound only be expounded upon by the free tour.
It was a nice stop, but I would still recommend a Jewish tour of Barcelona. Just realized the free one is not Jewish-focused, which is fine and might be great for general Barcelona info, but yeah the Jewish tour was great.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 12, 2015, 10:32:56 AM
It was a nice stop, but I would still recommend a Jewish tour of Barcelona. Just realized the free one is not Jewish-focused, which is fine and might be great for general Barcelona info, but yeah the Jewish tour was great.
I wasn't considering the Jewish your. The tentative plan in 11am free tour (it's a 1.5 minute walk from where we're staying), Lunch @ Maccabi, Park Guell, Maccabi for dinner.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 12, 2015, 10:37:21 AM
I wasn't considering the Jewish your. The tentative plan in 11am free tour (it's a 1.5 minute walk from where we're staying), Lunch @ Maccabi, Park Guell, Maccabi for dinner.
Just the 1 day, right? The tour was very good. Park Guell was nice but we enjoyed Retiro Park in Madrid more, if one were to compare the 2.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 12, 2015, 10:59:53 AM
Just the 1 day, right? The tour was very good. Park Guell was nice but we enjoyed Retiro Park in Madrid more, if one were to compare the 2.
Correct. 2 nights, 1 day. I wouldn't compare the parks. We do plan on going to Retiro Park in Madrid, so are you suggesting I skip Park Guell?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 12, 2015, 11:16:14 AM
Correct. 2 nights, 1 day. I wouldn't compare the parks. We do plan on going to Retiro Park in Madrid, so are you suggesting I skip Park Guell?
I think I might skip it versus doing the Jewish tour. The park has a section where you can pay to get in and see some Gaudi structures, but that wasn't interesting for us. So without that section, you can basically hang out on the main level of the park (which is nice, but nothing incredibly special) and walk around checking out the sketchy vendors selling things, or you can head up the mountain (paved trail for the most part) to see some nice views of BCN, but looking back the tour was a better use of our time.

Maybe you can do the tour in the morning, get lunch (since the tour is near La Ramblas) and then go to the park in the afternoon.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 12, 2015, 11:23:53 AM
I think I might skip it versus doing the Jewish tour. The park has a section where you can pay to get in and see some Gaudi structures, but that wasn't interesting for us. So without that section, you can basically hang out on the main level of the park (which is nice, but nothing incredibly special) and walk around checking out the sketchy vendors selling things, or you can head up the mountain (paved trail for the most part) to see some nice views of BCN, but looking back the tour was a better use of our time.

Maybe you can do the tour in the morning, get lunch (since the tour is near La Ramblas) and then go to the park in the afternoon.
I'm confused. You're suggesting I do the Jewish your in the morning versus the regular tour? I already planned on going the park in the afternoon.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 12, 2015, 11:46:21 AM
I'm confused. You're suggesting I do the Jewish your in the morning versus the regular tour? I already planned on going the park in the afternoon.
Sorry for the confusion. I meant that I would go on the Jewish tour over the park, but if you can do both in 1 day, then great. Now I realize you were planning on the regular tour in the morning and park in afternoon. I would find out more about the free tour, if it doesn't have great reviews, then perhaps do the Jewish tour instead of it. But keep in mind that the Jewish tour might not cover everything in BCN, while the regular tour might cover more places.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 12, 2015, 11:59:58 AM
Sorry for the confusion. I meant that I would go on the Jewish tour over the park, but if you can do both in 1 day, then great. Now I realize you were planning on the regular tour in the morning and park in afternoon. I would find out more about the free tour, if it doesn't have great reviews, then perhaps do the Jewish tour instead of it. But keep in mind that the Jewish tour might not cover everything in BCN, while the regular tour might cover more places.
The regular tour got great reviews on Yelp. Nearly all 5*, with the occasional 4*.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 12, 2015, 11:42:05 PM
Decisions, decisions. Right now we're booked at the AC Hotel Sevilla Torneo for our 1 night in Seville. It's on the far northern edge of the city. We booked it using 10k Marriott points.  I'm debating switching to Fontecruz Sevilla, Autograph Collection, which is right near (5 min walk) the Alcázar and not far (23 min walk) from the train station were we'll be renting a car, for 35k.

If you value Marriott at .4¢, 10k is worth $40 and 35k is worth $140.

The AC hotel is going for €40 (~$45) and the AU hotel is going for €178 (~$200), so from purely a best-redemption value the AU hotel wins.

BUT, is it worth saving the 25k for something else (nothing in particular at this point) and just take a bus into town twice? Also, if I use the extra 25k for the AU hotel, I'd be all out of Marriott points (not that it makes a big difference).

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on May 13, 2015, 12:47:12 AM
Decisions, decisions. Right now we're booked at the AC Hotel Sevilla Torneo for our 1 night in Seville. It's on the far northern edge of the city. We booked it using 10k Marriott points.  I'm debating switching to Fontecruz Sevilla, Autograph Collection, which is right near (5 min walk) the Alcázar and not far (23 min walk) from the train station were we'll be renting a car, for 35k.

If you value Marriott at .4¢, 10k is worth $40 and 35k is worth $140.

The AC hotel is going for €40 (~$45) and the AU hotel is going for €178 (~$200), so from purely a best-redemption value the AU hotel wins.

BUT, is it worth saving the 25k for something else (nothing in particular at this point) and just take a bus into town twice? Also, if I use the extra 25k for the AU hotel, I'd be all out of Marriott points (not that it makes a big difference).

Any suggestions?
Not sure where you're getting your Marriott values from... They're wirth more like .55-.6
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 13, 2015, 12:49:46 AM
Not sure where you're getting your Marriott values from... They're wirth more like .55-.6
Still, at .55 the AC is $55 and the AU is $192.50, which still seems like a reasonable value, no?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on May 13, 2015, 10:14:48 AM
I was in BCN a couple of times and I have never heard of a Jewish tour.

Saw the old shul on my own and it was very interesting (for me at least).

What else is there in BCN that the jewish tour shows you?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 13, 2015, 10:18:44 AM
I was in BCN a couple of times and I have never heard of a Jewish tour.

Saw the old shul on my own and it was very interesting (for me at least).

What else is there in BCN that the jewish tour shows you?
That's because you planned a trip without consulting the forums. ;) The tour tells you about the history of Jews in BCN (yes, you could get that from a history book, but it's more meaningful when you're walking the streets. It also shows you the streets that Jews lived on, a doorpost that clearly had a Mezuzah on it once, and a few stones in the wall that have Jewish names on them because they were tombstones that were taken from the Jewish cemetery and made into city walls. :(
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on May 27, 2015, 01:26:28 AM
Any recommendations on a Jewish Toledo tour?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 27, 2015, 07:29:53 AM
Any recommendations on a Jewish Toledo tour?
Read through the thread/search. There's only 1 tour and it's mentioned.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 27, 2015, 07:50:19 AM
Any recommendations on a Jewish Toledo tour?
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Activities Day 3: This was the highlight of our trip. We were picked up at the hotel by Salomon who drove us to Toledo and gave us a fascinating 3 hour walking tour of history and Jewish perspective. Awesome. He then drove us to Madrid and showed us the significant points of interest in Madrid. He then drove us back to the hotel. Solomon’s website is http://www.jewishtoledotour.com/
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on May 27, 2015, 07:52:18 AM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moto on June 15, 2015, 06:13:31 PM
Can anyone recommend a nice hotel in marbella spain on the beach?

things to do there ?

thank you
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 16, 2015, 06:52:30 AM
Can anyone recommend a nice hotel in marbella spain on the beach?

things to do there ?

thank you
I stayed at Vincci Selección Estrella del Mar. Beaches are gorgeos and nearby there are lots of luxury shopping and fancy cars
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: elimmm on June 18, 2015, 04:43:34 PM
anyone took train from mad to gib?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on June 18, 2015, 04:44:13 PM
took from mad to svq
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on June 19, 2015, 01:30:03 AM
anyone took train from mad to gib?
I don't believe there is a train from Madrid to Gibraltar. There is one to nearby Algeciras and then its a short bus ride to la linea where you will walk over the border to Gibraltar. However, the train ride is quite long. There is an express train to Malaga that takes about 2 and a half 3 hours.  But Malaga is a good hour drive from La Linea.
I opted for the bus which goes overnight from Madrid to La Linea. It also happens to be much cheaper (its about 30 euro). It was a very nice bus with outlets and pretty comfortable but no bathrooms. They did stop at a rest stop so it wasn't to big of a deal. The timing was fine because we planned to sleep on the bus if you are able to do so.
On the way back we were forced to take a taxi to Malaga and from there the train. They don't speak English well in Spain and we understood at the office in Madrid  that we would be able to buy return tickets on the bus  back however when we the bus showed up the driver didn't allow us on. So we paid a hefty sum instead taxi plus the last minute train ticket.
(I actually think that you can buy the return tickets during box office hours in the la Linea station however the bus leaves later on in the night well after the ticket office closes. Good luck!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 23, 2015, 04:24:37 PM
This (http://www.malagacar.com/blog/car-hire-malaga/driving-directions/mediterranean-motorway-malaga-a-7-versus-ap-7/) article talks about the differences between the A-7 (free) and the AP-7 (toll) when driving the western Costa del Sol.

We'll be driving from Gibraltar to Malaga, and I wanted to know if anyone has taken either of these highways and which one you'd recommend. I'm thinking of taking the A-7, not so much to avoid tolls, but because it seems to have better views. Does this make sense?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 23, 2015, 04:44:21 PM
This (http://www.malagacar.com/blog/car-hire-malaga/driving-directions/mediterranean-motorway-malaga-a-7-versus-ap-7/) article talks about the differences between the A-7 (free) and the AP-7 (toll) when driving the western Costa del Sol.

We'll be driving from Gibraltar to Malaga, and I wanted to know if anyone has taken either of these highways and which one you'd recommend. I'm thinking of taking the A-7, not so much to avoid tolls, but because it seems to have better views. Does this make sense?
I drove the toll one it was at night
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 23, 2015, 04:53:18 PM
I drove the toll one it was at night
I'll be driving during the day.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on June 24, 2015, 05:40:44 PM
We drove it up on the way to the Alhambra in Granada. Definitely a scenic drive and easy access to the coastal towns. We didn't stop at the beaches as we were short on time but would definitely do it again. Traffic was non existent in the middle of the day.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 24, 2015, 05:54:24 PM
We drove it up on the way to the Alhambra in Granada. Definitely a scenic drive and easy access to the coastal towns. We didn't stop at the beaches as we were short on time but would definitely do it again. Traffic was non existent in the middle of the day.
You drove on the A-7? I'm driving on a Sunday morning.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moto on June 24, 2015, 08:29:43 PM
I arrive in Malaga on Monday  morning driving down to marbeia should I drive to Gibraltar on Tuesday? Wednesday morning were flying back to jfk or should we just enjoy are self in marbeia and leave Gibraltar out?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 25, 2015, 02:47:29 AM
I arrive in Malaga on Monday  morning driving down to marbeia should I drive to Gibraltar on Tuesday? Wednesday morning were flying back to jfk or should we just enjoy are self in marbeia and leave Gibraltar out?
depends on how much you like beaches
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 25, 2015, 08:05:33 AM
This (http://www.malagacar.com/blog/car-hire-malaga/driving-directions/mediterranean-motorway-malaga-a-7-versus-ap-7/) article talks about the differences between the A-7 (free) and the AP-7 (toll) when driving the western Costa del Sol.

We'll be driving from Gibraltar to Malaga, and I wanted to know if anyone has taken either of these highways and which one you'd recommend. I'm thinking of taking the A-7, not so much to avoid tolls, but because it seems to have better views. Does this make sense?

The A7 goes through the coastal towns, so you could run into slow traffic there. Also because of the higher volume of vehicles, you will be driving at a slower pace. The AP-7 was more or less empty both during the day and night when I used it and you can drive as fast as you feel comfortable going.

If you want to stop in the towns etc. you're best off going with the A7 as the AP7 can veer quite far away from those.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 25, 2015, 09:45:03 AM
The A7 goes through the coastal towns, so you could run into slow traffic there. Also because of the higher volume of vehicles, you will be driving at a slower pace. The AP-7 was more or less empty both during the day and night when I used it and you can drive as fast as you feel comfortable going.

If you want to stop in the towns etc. you're best off going with the A7 as the AP7 can veer quite far away from those.
Thanks for the info! I guess we'll see how much time we have, but with extra time I'd love to go on the A-7. Gmaps says it's only an extra 20 minutes without traffic.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on July 29, 2015, 06:30:10 PM
Going to Israel for Sukkos. On the way home I can either fly to Barcelona for 2 days (early October) or just stay longer in Israel and get a direct flight home. I have a 6 month old and a 2.5 year old in tow... I am obviously torn between my desire to see Barcelona vs. the convenience of a direct flight home due to the kids.

Is Barcelona nice enough to make it worth it? Is it silly to go to Barcelona for just 2 days when really I should be spending more time in Spain and therefore I should just go a different time?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 29, 2015, 06:38:46 PM
Going to Israel for Sukkos. On the way home I can either fly to Barcelona for 2 days (early October) or just stay longer in Israel and get a direct flight home. I have a 6 month old and a 2.5 year old in tow... I am obviously torn between my desire to see Barcelona vs. the convenience of a direct flight home due to the kids.

Is Barcelona nice enough to make it worth it? Is it silly to go to Barcelona for just 2 days when really I should be spending more time in Spain and therefore I should just go a different time?

Thank you!
You don't need more than 2 days in BCN IMO. Whether you should save it for another trip with MAD and elsewhere. I don't know how your kids travel to know if the stop for 2 days would bother them, though I wouldn't view it as a stop, more of a small trip since a stop that affects kids is usually an in-airport or quick overnight stop.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on July 29, 2015, 09:16:24 PM
You don't need more than 2 days in BCN IMO. Whether you should save it for another trip with MAD and elsewhere. I don't know how your kids travel to know if the stop for 2 days would bother them, though I wouldn't view it as a stop, more of a small trip since a stop that affects kids is usually an in-airport or quick overnight stop.
+1
And BCN and MAD arent that close to each other so its not like your gonna HAVE to go again if you end up in MAD again.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on July 30, 2015, 01:50:46 AM
+1
And BCN and MAD arent that close to each other so its not like your gonna HAVE to go again if you end up in MAD again.
You don't need more than 2 days in BCN IMO. Whether you should save it for another trip with MAD and elsewhere. I don't know how your kids travel to know if the stop for 2 days would bother them, though I wouldn't view it as a stop, more of a small trip since a stop that affects kids is usually an in-airport or quick overnight stop.
Thanks for the helpful replies! I am going to try to pull this off...
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yuey on August 03, 2015, 01:34:07 PM
Does anyone recommend a good half day tour in Seville? Is there anything to do there the evenings?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 03, 2015, 01:37:28 PM
Does anyone recommend a good half day tour in Seville? Is there anything to do there the evenings?
Most half day tours start in the morning, so I couldn't do any of them. Not much to do in the evenings besides walking around.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SLP on August 03, 2015, 01:57:14 PM
Does anyone recommend a good half day tour in Seville? Is there anything to do there the evenings?
You can go to a flamenco show if that's your kind of  thing. We went to one in a bar, just needed to buy drinks. There are fancier, more professional ones that require tickets.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yuey on August 04, 2015, 11:09:35 AM
Any recommendations for food in Madrid? I'll be there on Sunday and Monday (leaving from GIB early Sunday morning on train to MAD via Malaga).
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on August 04, 2015, 11:44:28 AM
Any recommendations for food in Madrid? I'll be there on Sunday and Monday (leaving from GIB early Sunday morning on train to MAD via Malaga).
I'll be there Tuesday! There's a restaurant there http://jewisheurope.org/detail.asp?ID=1051
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: raccah on August 24, 2015, 05:35:15 PM
Hey guys - I have six days in Spain. What do u guys recommend?
What is the best way to fly inside of Europe? Kayak shows me ways to get places for cheap, but are these flights going to nickel and dime me? Carry on, no printed tickets, etc? Avios went way up in the devaluation, or am I missing something? Can I just go with AA or UAL miles for 5K a pop or is it far more?

Personally, we will want to go to Barcelona for 2 days, Madrid for a day or two, Gibraltar for shabbos, Seville for a day or so and then on to UK. I have seen folks ask, but is there a way to get food for take out in Gibraltar for shabbos and not eat at folks places? Athens has the restaurant for Shabbos, which allows for a bit or privacy, does Gil have that as well?

TIA!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 24, 2015, 05:46:04 PM
Hey guys - I have six days in Spain. What do u guys recommend?
What is the best way to fly inside of Europe? Kayak shows me ways to get places for cheap, but are these flights going to nickel and dime me? Carry on, no printed tickets, etc? Avios went way up in the devaluation, or am I missing something? Can I just go with AA or UAL miles for 5K a pop or is it far more?

Personally, we will want to go to Barcelona for 2 days, Madrid for a day or two, Gibraltar for shabbos, Seville for a day or so and then on to UK. I have seen folks ask, but is there a way to get food for take out in Gibraltar for shabbos and not eat at folks places? Athens has the restaurant for Shabbos, which allows for a bit or privacy, does Gil have that as well?

TIA!
Read the Spain part of my TR (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=53999.msg1208819#msg1208819) for answers to all your questions.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: raccah on August 24, 2015, 11:47:39 PM
Thanks @Yehoshua - but the rules and all around luggage and flights were a bit vague in Europe. I would prefer not to check luggage, so can you do carry on like in the US? Or can u pay for that or no way? Can you buy Biz or are points better? Will biz allow for carry on?

I liked the biz I saw on AirEuropa - they actually have biz seats, Belgian Air just had an empty middle seat the last time I went to Israel via Belgium.

TIA!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: raccah on September 07, 2015, 12:35:01 AM
Hey guys,

What is the best way to get from Madrid to GIB? I want to spend shabbos in GIB. I looked at the train and there are no night trains. The latest train from Madrid to Algeciras in October is 15:35 - really? I could try to go from Madrid to GIB on Friday morning, but I am not a huge fan - of being stuck for Shabbos at the whim of the freaking train workers, who think striking is like going to McDonalds!

So, the choices I see are:

1) rent a car and then drive down when I want to
2) Take a flight from MAD to Malaga and then taxi in

Any other ideas? TIA!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 07, 2015, 01:04:46 AM
Hey guys,

What is the best way to get from Madrid to GIB? I want to spend shabbos in GIB. I looked at the train and there are no night trains. The latest train from Madrid to Algeciras in October is 15:35 - really? I could try to go from Madrid to GIB on Friday morning, but I am not a huge fan - of being stuck for Shabbos at the whim of the freaking train workers, who think striking is like going to McDonalds!

So, the choices I see are:

1) rent a car and then drive down when I want to
2) Take a flight from MAD to Malaga and then taxi in

Any other ideas? TIA!
Fastest and cheapest option is likely B, that's what i will be doing
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 07, 2015, 02:03:53 AM
Fastest and cheapest option is likely B, that's what i will be doing
You can also have a frum driver from GIB pick you up in AGP. Most locals in GIB use AGP as their airport unless they're flying to LHR.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 07, 2015, 02:16:10 AM
You can also have a frum driver from GIB pick you up in AGP. Most locals in GIB use AGP as their airport unless they're flying to LHR.
Have a way to arrange that?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 07, 2015, 02:27:01 AM
Have a way to arrange that?
Yes. PM for details.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on September 07, 2015, 09:34:31 AM
2) Take a flight from MAD to Malaga and then taxi in
Fastest and cheapest option is likely B, that's what i will be doing
Driving from MAD sounds way too long. Besides for getting a taxi from AGP, you could consider renting a car, although driving within GIB isn't fun. (However, there is only <10 minutes of driving within GIB that you'll need to do.) You should also consider flying into SVQ in case flights to AGP or car rentals from there (if you opt for that) are too expensive. SVQ is about 30 minutes further from GIB than AGP.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: raccah on September 07, 2015, 12:23:49 PM
Thanks Yehuda, I checked - a pair of Uber prices are far lower than an auto car for the days I need. So a round trip car rental of automatic is not a deal to me.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on September 07, 2015, 01:53:34 PM
Thanks Yehuda, I checked - a pair of Uber prices are far lower than an auto car for the days I need. So a round trip car rental of automatic is not a deal to me.
It could be that Uber is not a bad deal, but if you're cool with driving and are looking for the cheapest option, I would suggest talking to some of the car rental experts here to get some help knocking down the price.  ;)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 07, 2015, 01:56:17 PM
It could be that Uber is not a bad deal, but if you're cool with driving and are looking for the cheapest option, I would suggest talking to some of the car rental experts here to get some help knocking down the price.  ;)
Of course renting manual helps bring the price down considerably...
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: raccah on September 07, 2015, 02:17:41 PM
I am sure that is the case, but I have no interest in learning manual on a rental car, lol
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 07, 2015, 02:37:12 PM
I am sure that is the case, but I have no interest in learning manual on a rental car, lol
If you get an automatic manual as I did it's a lot easier, since it restarts automatically if you stall.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 07, 2015, 02:39:12 PM
If you get an automatic manual as I did it's a lot easier, since it restarts automatically if you stall.
So basically it pisses you off and then quickly appeases you
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 07, 2015, 02:41:49 PM
So basically it pisses you off and then quickly appeases you
Exactly!, and for your trouble you pay half price (of an automatic).
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 07, 2015, 02:42:47 PM
Exactly!, and for your trouble you pay half price (of an automatic).
Which is still more then a taxi
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 07, 2015, 02:54:04 PM
Which is still more then a taxi
Could be, depends on lots of stuff.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on September 07, 2015, 06:32:02 PM
Hey guys,

What is the best way to get from Madrid to GIB? I want to spend shabbos in GIB. I looked at the train and there are no night trains. The latest train from Madrid to Algeciras in October is 15:35 - really? I could try to go from Madrid to GIB on Friday morning, but I am not a huge fan - of being stuck for Shabbos at the whim of the freaking train workers, who think striking is like going to McDonalds!

So, the choices I see are:

1) rent a car and then drive down when I want to
2) Take a flight from MAD to Malaga and then taxi in

Any other ideas? TIA!
I took an overnight bus took about 7 hours total IIRC was totally worth it it costed 20 - 30 euro. The bus was very nice and new but no bathroom on board. They do make a stop halfway if you need. Obviously with a wife and kids this isn't an option.
But the timing was great. If you can sleep on a bus this would take away the need to kill daytime hours with traveling
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: raccah on September 07, 2015, 07:35:58 PM
I took an overnight bus took about 7 hours total IIRC was totally worth it it costed 20 - 30 euro. The bus was very nice and new but no bathroom on board. They do make a stop halfway if you need. Obviously with a wife and kids this isn't an option.
But the timing was great. If you can sleep on a bus this would take away the need to kill daytime hours with traveling
Do u know the bus and info about it, tia
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on September 07, 2015, 10:09:02 PM

Do u know the bus and info about it, tia
Bus company name was DAIBUS. I think I found it on a Spanish website using google translate. Not a hundred percent sure where I found it.
just as a side point if you end up going round trip make sure to buy the round trip at the Madrid bus station. I got a little messed over because I didn't.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on November 09, 2015, 12:13:35 PM
If anyone's going to Spain in the near future you can get dirt cheap rental cars. As low as €0.56 a day!

http://www.fly4free.com/deal/europe/hit-the-road-almost-for-free-rent-a-car-in-spain-from-e0-56-per-day/nggallery/image/car1/#gallery283

Title: Bringing vacuumed packaged cold cuts and cheeses into Spain
Post by: Rachelshender on November 25, 2015, 09:08:29 AM
Are vacuumed packaged cold cuts, dried meats and cheeses allowed through customs in Spain?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on December 06, 2015, 12:13:32 PM
Regarding the Kosher Restaurant in Madrid:

Anything new with the Hashgacha? Or is it still the Chief Rabbi?

Anyone here actually eat there? Any reviews?

Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 06, 2015, 12:14:39 PM
No.
Yes.
No.
No.

All info as of this past summer.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on December 06, 2015, 02:13:48 PM
Regarding the Kosher Restaurant in Madrid:

Anything new with the Hashgacha? Or is it still the Chief Rabbi?

Anyone here actually eat there? Any reviews?

Thanks
No, Yes, Yes, Yes :)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 06, 2015, 02:19:14 PM
No, Yes, Yes, Yes :)
I guess people have eaten there, but I don't recall it being anyone on DDF.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on December 06, 2015, 03:02:52 PM
I guess people have eaten there, but I don't recall it being anyone on DDF.
Didn't like the food so much. The service was bad. But then again there's no other option there so...
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on December 06, 2015, 03:14:31 PM
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Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on December 06, 2015, 03:15:01 PM
Food was pretty good very homey situation
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 06, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Nice! I'm glad to see I'm wrong and people here have eaten there.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on December 07, 2015, 11:10:43 PM
Any tip for Gran Canaria in the Canary Islands?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on December 08, 2015, 01:46:28 AM
Any tip for Gran Canaria in the Canary Islands?
what kind of to ate you looking for?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on December 08, 2015, 03:37:45 PM
what kind of to ate you looking for?

Anything really. I'm going tomorrow and would be glad to hear about the place from someone that was there. I'm going to Gran Canaria.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on December 08, 2015, 06:22:17 PM
Anything really. I'm going tomorrow and would be glad to hear about the place from someone that was there. I'm going to Gran Canaria.
I've been contemplating going but haven't been convinced it's an amazing place. Please report back!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 18, 2016, 10:03:13 AM
We are planning a family trip to Spain this August.  8)
Five of us -- me, DW, 18yo, 16yo, 13yo.
I have waded about half way through this thread and also seen a few of the excellent TRs, inc.Yehoshua, @Yehuda, Yuey, Hershelsdeals.... Yasher koachem!
Quick question, and maybe there's a better thread for this, so please direct if so:
Does anyone have advice on booking lodging for a family of 5? (Can't all squeeze into one room, esp. in Europe.) :D
--Is AirBnB best option?
--Just book two inexpensive (points or cash) at chain hotels?
--(Pipe dream: any way to guarantee in advance a suite upgrade to sleep 5, with Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Platinum, IHG Platinum, and Marriott Silver?)

Thanks, and looking forward to more planning with you all on this thread in the coming months.... ;)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 18, 2016, 10:16:36 AM
We are planning a family trip to Spain this August.  8)
Five of us -- me, DW, 18yo, 16yo, 13yo.
I have waded about half way through this thread and also seen a few of the excellent TRs, inc.Yehoshua, @Yehuda, Yuey, Hershelsdeals.... Yasher koachem!
Quick question, and maybe there's a better thread for this, so please direct if so:
Does anyone have advice on booking lodging for a family of 5? (Can't all squeeze into one room, esp. in Europe.) :D
--Is AirBnB best option?
--Just book two inexpensive (points or cash) at chain hotels?
--(Pipe dream: any way to guarantee in advance a suite upgrade to sleep 5, with Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Platinum, IHG Platinum, and Marriott Silver?)

Thanks, and looking forward to more planning with you all on this thread in the coming months.... ;)
We stayed at an Airbnb place in Barcelona. Not only was it cheap, it was centrally located near Las Ramblas, but it was it was clean, easy and had great AC. Now the place we stayed in will not be big enough for 5 people, but there were tons of options you can chose from there. I didn't check other cities in detail, but I did notice that airbnb was everywhere and quite affordable. If you're ok skipping the amenities that hotels offer (concierge, spas, pools, housekeeping, etc) I'd definitely consider it. It could even be beneficial if you need/want to use the kitchen facilities.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 18, 2016, 10:20:24 AM
We stayed at an Airbnb place in Barcelona. Not only was it cheap, it was centrally located near Las Ramblas, but it was it was clean, easy and had great AC. Now the place we stayed in will not be big enough for 5 people, but there were tons of options you can chose from there. I didn't check other cities in detail, but I did notice that airbnb was everywhere and quite affordable. If you're ok skipping the amenities that hotels offer (concierge, spas, pools, housekeeping, etc) I'd definitely consider it. It could even be beneficial if you need/want to use the kitchen facilities.
Thanks, Yehoshua. I think it does make sense for a lot of reasons. Shame I only bought one AirBnB Amex gift last month.  :(
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on January 18, 2016, 10:27:05 AM




We are planning a family trip to Spain this August.  8)
Five of us -- me, DW, 18yo, 16yo, 13yo.
I have waded about half way through this thread and also seen a few of the excellent TRs, inc.Yehoshua, @Yehuda, Yuey, Hershelsdeals.... Yasher koachem!
Quick question, and maybe there's a better thread for this, so please direct if so:
Does anyone have advice on booking lodging for a family of 5? (Can't all squeeze into one room, esp. in Europe.) :D
--Is AirBnB best option?
--Just book two inexpensive (points or cash) at chain hotels?
--(Pipe dream: any way to guarantee in advance a suite upgrade to sleep 5, with Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Platinum, IHG Platinum, and Marriott Silver?)

Thanks, and looking forward to more planning with you all on this thread in the coming months.... ;)

. If you're ok skipping the amenities that hotels offer (concierge, spas, pools, housekeeping, etc) I'd definitely consider it. It could even be beneficial if you need/want to use the kitchen facilities.
Check out sweetinn
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 18, 2016, 10:33:45 AM


Check out sweetinn
Nice. Thank you. Is it an Israeli/Jewish company? I see they have listings in Jerusalem and TLV.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on January 18, 2016, 10:38:09 AM
Nice. Thank you. Is it an Israeli/Jewish company? I see they have listings in Jerusalem and TLV.
Here's the CEO, great concept.
https://il.linkedin.com/in/paul-besnainou-b4aaa082
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 18, 2016, 10:56:35 AM
Here's the CEO, great concept.
https://il.linkedin.com/in/paul-besnainou-b4aaa082
thanks. I'll explore.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 22, 2016, 12:20:11 AM
Seeking some advice in trip planning:

Itinerary for a week in Spain in August (2 parents+3 teens):
Tues, Weds, Thurs nights in Madrid (includes day trip to Toledo).

Friday drive to GIB, with stop(s) in Cordoba, Granada and/or Seville.

Friday night through Sunday morning: GIB.

Sunday fly AGP-BCN

Sunday afternoon through Wednesday morning in BCN.

Thoughts?

Would you spend one less night in MAD and spend it (Thurs night), say, in Seville?

What else is missing?



Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on January 22, 2016, 03:13:44 AM
Seeking some advice in trip planning:

Itinerary for a week in Spain in August (2 parents+3 teens):
Tues, Weds, Thurs nights in Madrid (includes day trip to Toledo).

Friday drive to GIB, with stop(s) in Cordoba, Granada and/or Seville.

Friday night through Sunday morning: GIB.

Sunday fly AGP-BCN

Sunday afternoon through Wednesday morning in BCN.

Thoughts?

Would you spend one less night in MAD and spend it (Thurs night), say, in Seville?

What else is missing?




Personally I don't think MAD needs more than 1 day I'd prefer to spend time in Marbella or take a day trip to Tangier. Don't now about driving from MAD train is probably more practical
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 22, 2016, 03:47:58 AM
Personally I don't think MAD needs more than 1 day I'd prefer to spend time in Marbella or take a day trip to Tangier. Don't now about driving from MAD train is probably more practical
We spent 1 night in MAD and saw most of what we wanted to see (except Toledo), so spending 2 full days should be enough time. If that means 3 nights because you arrive at night, fine.

I think driving from MAD to GIB is a bit far unless you spend a night somewhere. We flew into SVQ and out of AGP, but didn't drive all the way from MAD.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 22, 2016, 07:01:28 AM
+1 on not driving from MAD and needing less time there. SVQ was very nice for a day, and we would have even liked a little more time there.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 22, 2016, 10:12:48 AM

+1 on not driving from MAD and needing less time there. SVQ was very nice for a day, and we would have even liked a little more time there.
We spent 1 night in MAD and saw most of what we wanted to see (except Toledo), so spending 2 full days should be enough time. If that means 3 nights because you arrive at night, fine.

I think driving from MAD to GIB is a bit far unless you spend a night somewhere. We flew into SVQ and out of AGP, but didn't drive all the way from MAD.
Personally I don't think MAD needs more than 1 day I'd prefer to spend time in Marbella or take a day trip to Tangier. Don't now about driving from MAD train is probably more practical
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 22, 2016, 10:24:19 AM
(tapatalk is buggy--just quoted you all but couldn't enter my reply, so here it is):

Great feedback -- exactly what I was seeking. Thank you.
So, we'll do two, not three, nights in MAD.
Marbella and Tangier sound intriguing. 
Still considering the drive MAD-GIB, with an overnight maybe in Cordoba.

Revised itinerary might look like this:
Depart Madrid Thurs morning.
Stop in Toledo for a few hours.
Drive to Cordoba (I want to see where the Rambam lived)
Thursday overnight in Cordoba.

Friday morning:
Drive Cordoba to Seville.
Some time in Seville.
Drive to GIB.
Shabbat.

I'm not totally attached to driving, and in fact would prefer not to drive. But with a family of 5, all the connecting flights or train rides multiply the expense pretty fast, even if they are only $60 or $70 pp.

More to follow. Many thanks to you all. Shabbat Shalom.

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 22, 2016, 11:12:10 AM
Valid point about expenses adding up as opposed to 1 car rental. Breaking it up definitely would make it easier. While I said I liked Seville a lot, I think going up to the Rock in GIB is a more exciting activity and would suggest you drive direct to GIB and get in an activity there as opposed to spending some time in Seville.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 22, 2016, 11:22:36 AM
Valid point about expenses adding up as opposed to 1 car rental. Breaking it up definitely would make it easier. While I said I liked Seville a lot, I think going up to the Rock in GIB is a more exciting activity and would suggest you drive direct to GIB and get in an activity there as opposed to spending some time in Seville.

Helpful. We're excited about the Rock! A little concerned (phobic) about the monkeys, but we'll see.
We are reserved at the Elliot (because AirBnB required 3 nights stay), at 105GBP per room per night, which seems good. We'll try to allow time to take advantage of the pool and fitness center.

More planning to follow.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 23, 2016, 08:11:24 AM
Valid point about expenses adding up as opposed to 1 car rental. Breaking it up definitely would make it easier. While I said I liked Seville a lot, I think going up to the Rock in GIB is a more exciting activity and would suggest you drive direct to GIB and get in an activity there as opposed to spending some time in Seville.
+10. Going from Cordoba to Seville to GIB even on the longest Friday of the year would be tough. Skip Seville unless you're spending the night there anyway.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on January 23, 2016, 11:10:49 AM

I'm not totally attached to driving, and in fact would prefer not to drive. But with a family of 5, all the connecting flights or train rides multiply the expense pretty fast, even if they are only $60 or $70 pp.


A one-way rental car across the entire country ain't gonna be cheap. I would recommend train over flying. With IB you can book flights for 4500 Avios
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on January 23, 2016, 04:17:32 PM


Helpful. We're excited about the Rock! A
We are reserved at the Elliot (because AirBnB required 3 nights stay), at 105GBP per room per night, which seems good.

Non refundable?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on January 23, 2016, 05:34:33 PM
Another option would be for you to take a train from Madrid to Cordoba - takes less then 2 hours, MUCH faster then driving. Spend 1 day there, then take train to Seville (45 mins), tour if you want and then rent a car and drive to GIB (fairly close). The trains are not expensive if you book in advance and reserve a full 4 person booth - I think I paid around 25-30 Euro per person for the longer journey, or for 10 Euro more you can go first class and get a free kosher meal + drinks + lounge access at the station. I stayed overnight at the AC hotel in Cordoba which is just accross the road from station, can wheel luggage cart there. About a 15 minute walk to main tourist area with Shul etc. Lovely city...

For these particular journeys trains are much faster and more pleasant that driving.

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 23, 2016, 05:44:35 PM
Another option would be for you to take a train from Madrid to Cordoba - takes less then 2 hours, MUCH faster then driving. Spend 1 day there, then take train to Seville (45 mins), tour if you want and then rent a car and drive to GIB (fairly close). The trains are not expensive if you book in advance and reserve a full 4 person booth - I think I paid around 25-30 Euro per person for the longer journey, or for 10 Euro more you can go first class and get a free kosher meal + drinks + lounge access at the station. I stayed overnight at the AC hotel in Cordoba which is just accross the road from station, can wheel luggage cart there. About a 15 minute walk to main tourist area with Shul etc. Lovely city...

For these particular journeys trains are much faster and more pleasant that driving.


A one-way rental car across the entire country ain't gonna be cheap. I would recommend train over flying. With IB you can book flights for 4500 Avios


+10. Going from Cordoba to Seville to GIB even on the longest Friday of the year would be tough. Skip Seville unless you're spending the night there anyway.

Thanks, everyone.  I would definitely prefer not to drive -- one less headache/worry!

Every time I have looked online, either Iberia or BA, I can never find any intra-Spain flight with 5  Avios seats available -- at most 1 or 2 per flight.  I guess I can PUTPAC. 

The train is an intriguing idea. I'll price it out.  Had no idea I could get kosher meals -- nice perk.

Really appreciate everyone's input. Sorry you can't take the actual trip with me!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 23, 2016, 05:47:35 PM

Non refundable?
No, actually flexible:

"Cancellation policy 2pm on the day of arrival. Cancellation permitted until 2pm on the day of arrival. First nights accommodation charged on cancellations after 2pm."

I should add that I emailed directly with the reservations coordinator, initially via their online form, and then via regular email. She has been very easy to work with.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on January 24, 2016, 01:24:33 AM
No, actually flexible:

"Cancellation policy 2pm on the day of arrival. Cancellation permitted until 2pm on the day of arrival. First nights accommodation charged on cancellations after 2pm."

I should add that I emailed directly with the reservations coordinator, initially via their online form, and then via regular email. She has been very easy to work with.
Oh, because fairly often they send out 20% off emails or sales like that that. Right now they have a sale of pay for two and get the third night free
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 24, 2016, 06:07:43 PM

Oh, because fairly often they send out 20% off emails or sales like that that. Right now they have a sale of pay for two and get the third night free
I think I recall seeing that deal. But I didn't think we would want three nights in GIB. Do we?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on January 26, 2016, 01:07:14 PM
or for 10 Euro more you can go first class and get a free kosher meal + drinks + lounge access at the station
For these particular journeys trains are much faster and more pleasant that driving.

I took the spanish trains many times and never knew about kosher food.

Which trains offer it? Where did you find about about it?

Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 26, 2016, 03:53:47 PM
I took the spanish trains many times and never knew about kosher food.

Which trains offer it? Where did you find about about it?

Thanks

At the risk of cross-posting, here's what I found (GIYF):

First, Renfo, the Spanish Railways, says that you can get special meals, inc. kosher: http://www.renfe.com/EN/viajeros/larga_distancia/servicios/serviciosRestauracion.html

Second, someone on FT posted his experience in 2014:
"Quick update in case anyone is interested. I ended up booking 'Preferente'. For the 1 hour 40 minute ride from Cordoba to Madrid at 3pm they provided a full 3 course hot kosher meal for each of us, from WAM in Paris (under supervision of dayan of Creteil). Meal included Salade Niceoise (or salmon pate), chicken with pasta and vegetables, fruit compote and halva. I think it was long life but frozen by caterer. Not wonderful, but better then Stogel and appreciated in a country where kosher food is hard to obtain.
We also had 2-3 drink services on board, plus headphone service and snack (not kosher).
Only kosher food in lounge was drinks (cans of coke/juice/water etc).

I was quite impressed with the value, at EUR 41 per person for a 1 hour 40 minute ride of nearly 400 km (standard class was EUR 24 or so)"
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on January 26, 2016, 06:48:59 PM
At the risk of cross-posting, here's what I found (GIYF):

First, Renfo, the Spanish Railways, says that you can get special meals, inc. kosher: http://www.renfe.com/EN/viajeros/larga_distancia/servicios/serviciosRestauracion.html

Second, someone on FT posted his experience in 2014:
"Quick update in case anyone is interested. I ended up booking 'Preferente'. For the 1 hour 40 minute ride from Cordoba to Madrid at 3pm they provided a full 3 course hot kosher meal for each of us, from WAM in Paris (under supervision of dayan of Creteil). Meal included Salade Niceoise (or salmon pate), chicken with pasta and vegetables, fruit compote and halva. I think it was long life but frozen by caterer. Not wonderful, but better then Stogel and appreciated in a country where kosher food is hard to obtain.
We also had 2-3 drink services on board, plus headphone service and snack (not kosher).
Only kosher food in lounge was drinks (cans of coke/juice/water etc).

I was quite impressed with the value, at EUR 41 per person for a 1 hour 40 minute ride of nearly 400 km (standard class was EUR 24 or so)"

That person was actually me (same as made suggestion here). It is possible to order KSML on Preferente on High Speed train. Seems that price difference was EUR 17...
You can make the request when you book your ticket.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 26, 2016, 07:34:35 PM
That person was actually me (same as made suggestion here). It is possible to order KSML on Preferente on High Speed train. Seems that price difference was EUR 17...
You can make the request when you book your ticket.
Small world!

I'll look into it. I'm still debating rental car vs. train, or maybe a bit of both.
I can rent a family car (e.g.,  Opel Insignia) in MAD on Thurs, drive to Cordoba (via Toledo), spend Thurs night in Cordoba, and then drive to GIB Friday, and then drive to AGP on Sunday, and the total rental  cost (Hertz) would be 250Euro.  Or, we could take train from MAD to Cordoba and rent car there on Thurs, saving about 80 Euro on the rental.

I don't think I would  mind the driving, because it's pretty well broken up.
Thursday, MAD-Toledo-Cordoba.
Friday, Cordoba-GIB
Sunday, GIB-AGP.

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 26, 2016, 09:12:29 PM
Small world!

I'll look into it. I'm still debating rental car vs. train, or maybe a bit of both.
I can rent a family car (e.g.,  Opel Insignia) in MAD on Thurs, drive to Cordoba (via Toledo), spend Thurs night in Cordoba, and then drive to GIB Friday, and then drive to AGP on Sunday, and the total rental  cost (Hertz) would be 250Euro.  Or, we could take train from MAD to Cordoba and rent car there on Thurs, saving about 80 Euro on the rental.

I don't think I would  mind the driving, because it's pretty well broken up.
Thursday, MAD-Toledo-Cordoba.
Friday, Cordoba-GIB
Sunday, GIB-AGP.
And the driving is pretty easy on Spanish highways too. You'll be fine.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 26, 2016, 09:30:45 PM
And the driving is pretty easy on Spanish highways too. You'll be fine.
8)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 26, 2016, 10:28:18 PM
And the driving is pretty easy on Spanish highways too. You'll be fine.
But absolutely insane once you cross the border.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 26, 2016, 10:29:25 PM
But absolutely insane once you cross the border.
True, or on small city streets like in Seville (not sure if the streets are as small in Cordoba).
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 26, 2016, 10:33:01 PM
True, or on small city streets like in Seville (not sure if the streets are as small in Cordoba).
But absolutely insane once you cross the border.
Right, you mean insane in GIB. I recall that one of you wrote about that. I'm a little bit freaked out by that possibility, but I guess I'll just be extra careful.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 26, 2016, 10:52:21 PM
Right, you mean insane in GIB. I recall that one of you wrote about that. I'm a little bit freaked out by that possibility, but I guess I'll just be extra careful.
You won't be driving more than 5 minutes within the city, but it might be the worst 5 minutes of driving in your life.  ;D
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 26, 2016, 11:28:12 PM
You won't be driving more than 5 minutes within the city, but it might be the worst 5 minutes of driving in your life.  ;D
+1. I didn't find it too bad though. It was tight, but nothing a MiniCooper couldn't handle. A bigger car OTOH would have been terrifying and near impossible. You'll have millimeters of space on each instead of a new inches.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 26, 2016, 11:34:16 PM
+1. I didn't find it too bad though. It was tight, but nothing a MiniCooper couldn't handle. A bigger car OTOH would have been terrifying and near impossible. You'll have millimeters of space on each instead of a new inches.
Oy. Too bad we can't fit our family of 5 in a Mini. This will be interesting.

You won't be driving more than 5 minutes within the city, but it might be the worst 5 minutes of driving in your life.  ;D
Many years ago, I crashed one car on I-80 in Truckee (black ice), and then totaled it 3 months later in a fight with a tree in Palo Alto (tree won)...I'm pretty sure I've already experienced my worst 5 minutes of driving in my life! :-[

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on January 27, 2016, 02:31:58 AM
GIB driving isn't so bad... Just don't drive, park and that's it. Keep in mind you'll need an international license in Spain (I didn't have one but was told afterwards that had I been pulled over it would've cost me lots in bribes...)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 27, 2016, 03:21:13 AM
GIB driving isn't so bad... Just don't drive, park and that's it. Keep in mind you'll need an international license in Spain (I didn't have one but was told afterwards that had I been pulled over it would've cost me lots in bribes...)
Obviously no one drives around GIB, they just park and walk. It's driving to the hotel and parking that's the pain.  I happened to have an international driver license when I rented in Seville, but no one asked me for it.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 27, 2016, 04:30:55 AM
   
You won't be driving more than 5 minutes within the city, but it might be the worst 5 minutes of driving in your life.  ;D



+1. I didn't find it too bad though. It was tight, but nothing a MiniCooper couldn't handle. A bigger car OTOH would have been terrifying and near impossible. You'll have millimeters of space on each instead of a new inches.
Ha! I did it in one of these -

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Mercedes-Benz_Vito_Kombi_Extralang_116_CDI_BlueEFFICIENCY_(V_639)_%E2%80%93_Frontansicht,_3._Juli_2011,_Essen.jpg)

Was a little daunting, but I made it without a scratch.

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on January 27, 2016, 06:25:58 AM
Not much worse than Meah Shearim
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 27, 2016, 05:17:56 PM
Well, it will be fun!
Regarding the international driver's permit, it does seem wise to get it for Spain.
https://www.ricksteves.com/travel-tips/transportation/rental-car-requirements.
And from AAA it's only $15 (as OP said, it may be free with AAA "Prime" or whatever it's called.)
http://www.aaa.com/vacation/idpf.html
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 27, 2016, 10:00:57 PM
I got mine from AAA. Took a bit of time, but went pretty smoothly.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 28, 2016, 12:18:52 AM
I got mine from AAA. Took a bit of time, but went pretty smoothly.
Same here, but it took no time at all.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 28, 2016, 06:48:44 AM
Same here, but it took no time at all.
Was like 45 minutes. Bit of a line and then rep not working fast enough 😜
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 31, 2016, 09:11:49 PM
Interested to hear opinions on visiting Cordoba vs. Granada. I don't think we can do both.  Seeing where the Rambam lived is important to me, but I understand that the Alhambra is not to be missed, either.

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Lenat on February 15, 2016, 02:06:52 PM
I would love to do a few day trip to Spain and/or Gib. on the way to the states for peach and can't figure out the best options... Southern Spain looks interesting and different and I am not so interested in BCN or MAD. Looking for more relaxed.. Any Ideas?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 15, 2016, 02:09:29 PM
I would love to do a few day trip to Spain and/or Gib. on the way to the states for peach and can't figure out the best options... Southern Spain looks interesting and different and I am not so interested in BCN or MAD. Looking for more relaxed.. Any Ideas?
Welcome to the forums! Cordoba, Marbella and the whole Costa del Sol, Valencia, and Seville are good places to start.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on February 15, 2016, 10:21:12 PM

Welcome to the forums! Cordoba, Marbella and the whole Costa del Sol, Valencia, and Seville are good places to start.
IINM, it sounds like you didn't visit Granada on your recent trip, right? Any regrets?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 15, 2016, 10:56:57 PM
IINM, it sounds like you didn't visit Granada on your recent trip, right? Any regrets?
The only place of the ones I listed that we visited last summer was Marbella, and we really just drove through.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Lenat on February 16, 2016, 06:32:38 AM
I don't want to pack to much in for four days. I would rather really experience 1 or 2 places there.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 16, 2016, 09:01:05 AM
I don't want to pack to much in for four days. I would rather really experience 1 or 2 places there.
So do your research and choose two from the list.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on February 26, 2016, 09:52:13 AM

The only place of the ones I listed that we visited last summer was Marbella, and we really just drove through.
But you had previously been to Granada? Just wondering if that needs to be on our itinerary for a first visit to Spain. For us, it would probably mean Granada instead of Córdoba.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 26, 2016, 10:43:00 AM
But you had previously been to Granada? Just wondering if that needs to be on our itinerary for a first visit to Spain. For us, it would probably mean Granada instead of Córdoba.
No, I've never been to Grenada. The only time I was in Spain was last summer, and you can read all about it in my TR (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=53999.msg1208819#msg1208819).
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on February 26, 2016, 02:38:49 PM
No, I've never been to Grenada. The only time I was in Spain was last summer, and you can read all about it in my TR (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=53999.msg1208819#msg1208819).
Yes, I have read your TR, printed it out, read it again to my DW, saved it in my file for summer planning...it's terrific. I was only inquiring because your post a few weeks ago left open the possibility that you had visited Spain and Granada previously.  So, have you been feeling any pangs of regret NOT going to Granada?  ::)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 26, 2016, 02:50:12 PM
Yes, I have read your TR, printed it out, read it again to my DW, saved it in my file for summer planning...it's terrific. I was only inquiring because your post a few weeks ago left open the possibility that you had visited Spain and Granada previously.  So, have you been feeling any pangs of regret NOT going to Granada?  ::)
I can't regret not going somewhere I've never been or researched before. However, after having done research after booking the trip I would love to go back to visit. The entire  Costa del Sol is very pretty and relaxing. Spain's nice (and super hot) in the summer, so it's something to consider.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on February 26, 2016, 02:56:04 PM
I can't regret not going somewhere I've never been or researched before. However, after having done research after booking the trip I would love to go back to visit. The entire  Costa del Sol is very pretty and relaxing. Spain's nice (and super hot) in the summer, so it's something to consider.

Thanks. I've been to Japan 3 times and regret that I have not (yet) visited Hiroshima.  I was wondering if you had similar feeling about Granada.  :)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 26, 2016, 03:01:02 PM
Thanks. I've been to Japan 3 times and regret that I have not (yet) visited Hiroshima.  I was wondering if you had similar feeling about Granada.  :)
Not really. I've only been to Spain once. Out of all the countries I've been to in Europe I have a desire to go back to all of them. If I needed to rank the order in which I'd return It would be Italy, UK, Spain, Switzerland, France.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 27, 2016, 05:27:49 PM


in Europe I have a desire to go back to all of them. If I needed to rank the order in which I'd return It would be Italy, UK, Spain, Switzerland, France.
Random article that has not got much to do with anything but I saw it literally 30 seconds before reading this post. Maybe the UK will leave the EU http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-pauses-plans-to-ban-super-strength-kettles-out-of-fear-it-would-drive-tea-loving-britons-towards-a6899551.html
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 27, 2016, 10:12:25 PM
Random article that has not got much to do with anything but I saw it literally 30 seconds before reading this post. Maybe the UK will leave the EU http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-pauses-plans-to-ban-super-strength-kettles-out-of-fear-it-would-drive-tea-loving-britons-towards-a6899551.html
I was reading about that yesterday. Interesting stuff!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Lenat on February 28, 2016, 08:08:30 AM
So what's the skinny on kosher in Barcelona ( restaurant and supermarkets?) Is there anything other than maccabi if I'm looking to take some food to go...
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 28, 2016, 09:04:01 AM
So what's the skinny on kosher in Barcelona ( restaurant and supermarkets?) Is there anything other than maccabi if I'm looking to take some food to go...
Isamar Kosher grocery store, but it wasn't too impressive. http://jewisheurope.org/detail.asp?ID=689
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Lenat on March 06, 2016, 08:35:19 AM
I see there is a list of kosher stores etc. in the costa del sol region  http://jewisheurope.org/city.asp?Region=30  Are they any good and reliable at all? (kosherwise)? Meaning, do I need to bring any food with me for 5 days in BCN and Costa Del Sol?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 06, 2016, 10:15:24 AM
I see there is a list of kosher stores etc. in the costa del sol region  http://jewisheurope.org/city.asp?Region=30  Are they any good and reliable at all? (kosherwise)? Meaning, do I need to bring any food with me for 5 days in BCN and Costa Del Sol?
I'm not sure about the kosher stores on the Costa del Sol, but you can buy all you need in BCN.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Nosson21 on March 16, 2016, 05:35:22 PM
do u need to take a tour of the royal palace in madrid or can u just walk around on your own?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 16, 2016, 05:36:41 PM
do u need to take a tour of the royal palace in madrid or can u just walk around on your own?
You can walk around on your own.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on March 17, 2016, 07:04:34 AM
You can walk around on your own.
And listen to other tour guides :D
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on March 20, 2016, 12:24:47 AM
I recall that both Yehoshua and @yehuda have advised to allocate ample time for site seeing in Gibraltar. I am wondering how much site seeing we would be able to do on Shabbat. Specifically, can we walk up The Rock? It would be ideal if we could walk up and down the Rock on Shabbat afternoon. Is that feasible?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 20, 2016, 12:36:33 AM
I recall that both Yehoshua and @yehuda have advised to allocate ample time for site seeing in Gibraltar. I am wondering how much site seeing we would be able to do on Shabbat. Specifically, can we walk up The Rock? It would be ideal if we could walk up and down the Rock on Shabbat afternoon. Is that feasible?
I think that you can technically walk up the rock, but it's quite a hike and not a very good activity for Shabbos. You can do a lot of sightseeing on Shabbos that involves walking assuming it isn't too hot or rainy. The eiruv covers a large part of Gibraltar but not the whole thing including near the lighthouse. We spent Friday and going up the Rock and found it to be more than enough time. If you wanted to do other things like the Dolphins, which @Yehuda said you could skip IIRC,  you'll need more time.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on March 20, 2016, 07:01:19 AM
Yehoshua, thank you.  Yes, I recall the same about what @yehuda said. We will plan for Friday afternoon to hike up the Rock.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on March 20, 2016, 09:10:20 AM
Yehoshua, thank you.  Yes, I recall the same about what @yehuda said. We will plan for Friday afternoon to hike up the Rock.
Its quite the hike. Alternatively you can take the cable car up and walk down seeing the attractions on the way.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 20, 2016, 10:01:43 AM
Its quite the hike. Alternatively you can take the cable car up and walk down seeing the attractions on the way.
+100 that's the usual way to do it. Skip the hike up, unless you wanted to go the stairs on the back side just for their own sake.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 20, 2016, 11:10:40 AM
Its quite the hike. Alternatively you can take the cable car up and walk down seeing the attractions on the way.
Although not on Shabbos. :P
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on March 20, 2016, 11:11:28 AM
Although not on Shabbos.
I wouldn't recommend it on shabbos at all.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on March 20, 2016, 11:14:39 AM
+100 that's the usual way to do it. Skip the hike up, unless you wanted to go the stairs on the back side just for their own sake.
Although not on Shabbos. :P
I wouldn't recommend it on shabbos at all.
Its quite the hike. Alternatively you can take the cable car up and walk down seeing the attractions on the way.

Thank you all. Sounds like there's no equivocation here!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Nosson21 on March 21, 2016, 01:02:57 PM
can anyone recommend a good (affordable) jewish tour in toledo?
 and are there any jewish tours of MAD and BCN that are worth taking? thanks!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 21, 2016, 01:06:07 PM
can anyone recommend a good (affordable) jewish tour in toledo?
 and are there any jewish tours of MAD and BCN that are worth taking? thanks!
I believe Toledo only has one tour. I didn't take any Jewish tours in MAD or BCN either, though the free tour we took in BCN was quite good. See my TR for details.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Nosson21 on March 21, 2016, 01:10:59 PM
ok i will check it out. thanks!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Nosson21 on March 21, 2016, 01:17:15 PM
I believe Toledo only has one tour. I didn't take any Jewish tours in MAD or BCN either, though the free tour we took in BCN was quite good. See my TR for details.
the walking tour u are referring to in BCN, is that a jewish tour?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 21, 2016, 01:35:44 PM
the walking tour u are referring to in BCN, is that a jewish tour?
No, but it does mention the Jews a bit, and the role they played in BCN's history.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Nosson21 on March 21, 2016, 01:40:01 PM
No, but it does mention the Jews a bit, and the role they played in BCN's history.
thanks for that. also how do i book the toledo tour? and how much do u think it will cost my wife and i?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Srsy on March 21, 2016, 07:13:57 PM
Anyone went With Tour Plus to Spain for Pesach?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Nosson21 on March 22, 2016, 08:19:14 AM
Anyone ever stay in the Hilton diagonal in BCN?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 22, 2016, 09:02:54 AM
Anyone ever stay in the Hilton diagonal in BCN?
No, but I looked into it and still decided Airbnb was the better option.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Nosson21 on March 22, 2016, 09:21:29 AM
Do u think the Hilton is too far from la rambles/downtown or the main attractions in bcn?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 22, 2016, 09:36:52 AM
Do u think the Hilton is too far from la rambles/downtown or the main attractions in bcn?
The Four Points was, not sure where the Hilton was exactly.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on April 07, 2016, 11:58:55 PM
IINM @yehuda stayed near Diagonal and said it was out of the way.  Everyone says the place to be is Ramblas. We have booked AirBnB there for August.



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Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on April 08, 2016, 11:52:40 AM
Le Meridian has an amazing location. SPG
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on April 08, 2016, 11:55:49 AM
IINM @yehuda stayed near Diagonal and said it was out of the way.  Everyone says the place to be is Ramblas. We have booked AirBnB there for August.



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Diagonal is a long street. The Four Points is out of the way, but other parts of the street aren't as much. Obviously Las Ramblas is the most centrally located area. I also booked an AirBnB when we were there last July.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Nosson21 on April 10, 2016, 08:23:34 AM
Just got back from our trip. The Hilton diagonal indeed was far from everything but the metro system in bcn is great so we were fine
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on April 10, 2016, 08:32:03 AM
Another decent option is the Hotel Arts, it's a Ritz Cat 4
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: David1 on May 12, 2016, 09:39:05 PM
Anyone have any ideas for shabbos in Madrid? Is  there a chabad people go too? and is there a place to buy food for shabbos?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on May 12, 2016, 09:53:29 PM
chabad rabbi has meals in his house
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: David1 on May 12, 2016, 10:24:25 PM
chabad rabbi has meals in his house
Thanks... Have you gone to the meal? How was your experience?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ethana on May 13, 2016, 12:33:59 PM
went for both meals. YMMV. interesting fellow. hopefully other people eat there with you
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on May 15, 2016, 10:05:28 PM
Opinions on whether it's worth half a day to take a side trip from Madrid to Toledo? We have 1.5 days in Madrid, so this would cut into our only full day there. Family of 5 (3 teenagers).

I have read @yehuda's TR, but even that could go either way.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 15, 2016, 10:25:46 PM
Opinions on whether it's worth half a day to take a side trip from Madrid to Toledo? We have 1.5 days in Madrid, so this would cut into our only full day there. Family of 5 (3 teenagers).

I have read @yehuda's TR, but even that could go either way.

Thanks.
We would have gone had we had more time in Madrid if that helps. Also we didn't have much more we wanted to do in MAD itself.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on May 15, 2016, 10:59:33 PM
We would have gone had we had more time in Madrid if that helps. Also we didn't have much more we wanted to do in MAD itself.
That helps.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 15, 2016, 11:04:43 PM
That helps.  Thanks.
Also FWIW, my 19-year-old brother was in Madrid for an 11 hour layover. They daw everything they wanted to see and don't have anything they'd like to go back and see. All they did was walk the city center and go boating in Retiro Park.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on May 15, 2016, 11:09:11 PM
Also FWIW, my 19-year-old brother was in Madrid for an 11 hour layover. They daw everything they wanted to see and don't have anything they'd like to go back and see. All they did was walk the city center and go boating in Retiro Park.
That's valuable. So, the five of us will arrive late on a Tuesday evening, have all day Wednesday in Madrid, and then leave Thursday morning for Sevilla.   Seems that we can afford to take half of Wednesday in Toledo. Train only takes 30 minutes each way and costs $30RT.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 15, 2016, 11:40:49 PM
That's valuable. So, the five of us will arrive late on a Tuesday evening, have all day Wednesday in Madrid, and then leave Thursday morning for Sevilla.   Seems that we can afford to take half of Wednesday in Toledo. Train only takes 30 minutes each way and costs $30RT.
You probably could, although my wife and I really enjoyed the Royal Palace and eating lunch in Plaza Mayor. We did those things as well as spending the morning in Retiro park and it filled up our day.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on May 15, 2016, 11:42:50 PM
You probably could, although my wife and I really enjoyed the Royal Palace and eating lunch in Plaza Mayor. We did those things as well as spending the morning in Retiro park and it filled up our day.

Right. This is the dilemma. The way we have configured it, there's not really any time to do anything the evening we arrive into Madrid or the morning we depart, so we really have only the one full day.  Might be better just to stay put and save Toledo for another trip.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 16, 2016, 07:35:46 AM
You really only have 1 day, then, as a short night and morning don't equate to a "half day". Stay in MAD. Plenty to keep you busy for a full day.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on May 16, 2016, 10:48:39 AM
Stay in Madrid. See the palace, walk the squares and the park.

There are museums and plenty of shopping if that's your thing.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: David1 on May 26, 2016, 11:15:29 AM
Can anyone recommend restaurants in Madrid and Barcelona?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 26, 2016, 11:37:34 AM
Can anyone recommend restaurants in Madrid and Barcelona?
In Barcelona Maccabi is great. I didn't eat at the restaurant in Madrid.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: David1 on May 26, 2016, 11:47:06 AM
In Barcelona Maccabi is great. I didn't eat at the restaurant in Madrid.
Thanks, and i wanted to thank you for a great trip report. Used it to help plan my trip! Will be going in July
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 26, 2016, 11:48:42 AM
Thanks, and i wanted to thank you for a great trip report. Used it to help plan my trip! Will be going in July
Glad it was useful.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on May 27, 2016, 10:23:36 AM
In Barcelona Maccabi is great. I didn't eat at the restaurant in Madrid.

+1
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on June 02, 2016, 12:32:04 AM
Looking to book our one night in Sevilla.
It appears that the AC Fontacruz has left the building and is no longer Marriott.
I am thinking of booking at the Hilton Garden Inn.  I realize that it's kind of far from the city center, but that might not be a problem, given that we're only staying one night.
Anyone with experience at this HGI?

PS: I have Hilton Diamond status. The HH rep told me that only one of the two rooms we are reserving qualifies for free breakfast. Is that YMMV at the hotel or pretty strict systemwide?  Also, what's the chance of getting an upgrade to larger rooms here? Thanks.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on June 02, 2016, 07:51:53 AM
i assume free breakfast goes by the diamond account and thats why its only for one room and not both?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on June 02, 2016, 09:13:19 AM
i assume free breakfast goes by the diamond account and thats why its only for one room and not both?
That's my primitive understanding of it, as well.  But it never hurts to ask at the hotel. :)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 23, 2016, 03:38:02 PM
Can anyone recommend a nice hotel for one night in Barcelona? It  would probably make sense to be in the Las Ramblas Area near Maccabi Restaurant. Le Meridian looks like a good option but doesn't look like its worth the 20K Points. What other point hotels are near there? Is there a nice boutique hotel that reasonably priced?

Also, what would be the best way to make the most out of just one full day?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 23, 2016, 03:40:59 PM
Can anyone recommend a nice hotel for one night in Barcelona? It  would probably make sense to be in the Las Ramblas Area near Maccabi Restaurant. Le Meridian looks like a good option but doesn't look like its worth the 20K Points. What other point hotels are near there? Is there a nice boutique hotel that reasonably priced?

Also, what would be the best way to make the most out of just one full day?
Consider Airbnb. There's loads of great places all around Las Ramblas.

We really enjoyed the free walking tour we did. Details are in my TR.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 23, 2016, 05:40:45 PM
I see you stayed in hotels everywhere besides BCN. Why AirBNB and not hotel there too? Also, does it pay to do an AirBNB for just one quick night? Tnx
I stayed at an AirBNB in BCN specifically because I didn't want to use points at the 2 SPG properties in Las Ramblas (Le Meridien and the W). I found the general * ratings for hotels in BCN to be different than I'm used to, so while one hotel may claim to be 4* or 5* they may only be what I'd consider to be 3*. It became too much of a headache to find an independent hotel (no other points hotels are in the area), so I looked into AirBNB. I definately think it's worth it for only 1 night. Some people won't rent to you for less than 2 or 3 days, but if you put your dates into the search you'll only get results for places who'll accept 1-night reservations.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 23, 2016, 10:58:10 PM
I stayed at an AirBNB in BCN specifically because I didn't want to use points at the 2 SPG properties in Las Ramblas (Le Meridien and the W). I found the general * ratings for hotels in BCN to be different than I'm used to, so while one hotel may claim to be 4* or 5* they may only be what I'd consider to be 3*. It became too much of a headache to find an independent hotel (no other points hotels are in the area), so I looked into AirBNB. I definately think it's worth it for only 1 night. Some people won't rent to you for less than 2 or 3 days, but if you put your dates into the search you'll only get results for places who'll accept 1-night reservations.
Thank you very much. Ill do a search and see what I come up with. If anyone knows of a decent boutique hotel in La Ramblas area please share.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 23, 2016, 11:02:15 PM
Thank you very much. Ill do a search and see what I come up with. If anyone knows of a decent boutique hotel in La Ramblas area please share.
Are you opposed to Airbnb? Why not just go with that instead of trying to find a hotel?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 24, 2016, 12:26:42 AM
Are you opposed to Airbnb? Why not just go with that instead of trying to find a hotel?
Ive always stayed at hotels and nervous that a private apartment rental won't live up to the standard of a nice hotel. But maybe I should open my eyes and give it a shot.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 24, 2016, 12:33:50 AM
Ive always stayed at hotels and nervous that a private apartment rental won't live up to the standard of a nice hotel. But maybe I should open my eyes and give it a shot.
I think so. Airbnbs are quite nice.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 24, 2016, 06:56:45 AM
The Jewish tour was also very good.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DXD on June 26, 2016, 02:18:26 PM
Can anyone recommend a nice hotel for one night in Barcelona? It  would probably make sense to be in the Las Ramblas Area near Maccabi Restaurant. Le Meridian looks like a good option but doesn't look like its worth the 20K Points. What other point hotels are near there? Is there a nice boutique hotel that reasonably priced?

Also, what would be the best way to make the most out of just one full day?

We had 1.5 days in Barcelona. Arrive Wed morning, left Th. night. Stayed at hotel Vueling, 5-10 min walk to the central plaza. If was good - we were not all that excited about the points options, and it was pretty cheap.

You can get a good feel in one day - Parc Guell up the hill, about 30 min bus ride (highly suggested), Las Ramblas (gets a little shady at night), Barrio Gotic Pedrera (we weren't that impressed, consider skipping). Sagrada Familia looks impressive from the outside.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 27, 2016, 11:41:37 AM
We had 1.5 days in Barcelona. Arrive Wed morning, left Th. night. Stayed at hotel Vueling, 5-10 min walk to the central plaza. If was good - we were not all that excited about the points options, and it was pretty cheap.

You can get a good feel in one day - Parc Guell up the hill, about 30 min bus ride (highly suggested), Las Ramblas (gets a little shady at night), Barrio Gotic Pedrera (we weren't that impressed, consider skipping). Sagrada Familia looks impressive from the outside.


Thank You very much. The Vueling looks very decent but I would like to be closer to Macabbi Restaurant area of La Ramblas. I narrowed it down to these 5 hotels that are within a short walking distance and reasonably priced. If anyone has ever stayed at any of these hotels please let me know.


http://m.nh-hotels.com/hotel/nh-barcelona-centro/photos

http://m.onixliceohotel.com

http://www.hotelespanya.com

https://www.leonardo-hotels.com/leonardo-hotel-barcelona-las-ramblas

http://www.royalramblashotel.com

I was also looking at AirBNB per Yehoshua's advice but I need 2 bedrooms and its not easy to find one that looks decent within a reasonable price range.

We are thinking of doing a 3 hour segway tour which is a fun way to get a feel for the city. We did it in Paris and it was a great experience.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 27, 2016, 11:49:34 AM
Thank You very much. The Vueling looks very decent but I would like to be closer to Macabbi Restaurant area of La Ramblas. I narrowed it down to these 5 hotels that are within a short walking distance and reasonably priced. If anyone has ever stayed at any of these hotels please let me know.


http://m.nh-hotels.com/hotel/nh-barcelona-centro/photos

http://m.onixliceohotel.com

http://www.hotelespanya.com

https://www.leonardo-hotels.com/leonardo-hotel-barcelona-las-ramblas

http://www.royalramblashotel.com

I was also looking at AirBNB per Yehoshua's advice but I need 2 bedrooms and its not easy to find one that looks decent within a reasonable price range.

We are thinking of doing a 3 hour segway tour which is a fun way to get a feel for the city. We did it in Paris and it was a great experience.
Not sure if the one we stayed in is available, but they offered a 2 bedroom unit as well.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 27, 2016, 12:13:41 PM
Not sure if the one we stayed in is available, but they offered a 2 bedroom unit as well.

Do you by any chance have a link? How far was it from Macabbi Restaurant?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 27, 2016, 02:05:29 PM
Do you by any chance have a link? How far was it from Macabbi Restaurant?
We stayed here (https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/2886146). It's 1 bed and 1 futon, sleeps 4, 2 night minimum. It was a 5 minute walk from the restaurant. Here (https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/9873137) is the 2 bedroom unit she has.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on July 06, 2016, 02:41:06 PM
do i need an international drivers license to drive in spain?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 06, 2016, 03:52:40 PM
do i need an international drivers license to drive in spain?
I wasn't asked for one.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on July 06, 2016, 05:22:05 PM
I wasn't asked for one.
tx. internet search was inconsistent info
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on July 06, 2016, 07:10:18 PM
We stayed here (https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/2886146). It's 1 bed and 1 futon, sleeps 4, 2 night minimum. It was a 5 minute walk from the restaurant. Here (https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/9873137) is the 2 bedroom unit she has.
And, FWIW, here's where we're scheduled to stay for 3 nights in August: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/904862.
Three BR, sleeps six.  It also looks to be extremely close to Maccabi. We are paying just under $600 for the three nights, all in.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 06, 2016, 07:14:39 PM
I wasn't asked for one.
They wont always ask for one until you get pulled over.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on July 06, 2016, 09:55:22 PM
They wont always ask for one until you get pulled over.
+1 legally you do. If nothing happens your fine. But if you get pulled over.... You'll let us know :)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on July 07, 2016, 02:28:00 PM
anyone know of an english language site to  book tickets to alhambra in malaga? very confusing
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ypturner829 on July 10, 2016, 02:29:39 AM
 We are planning a trip to Barcelona in the end of October on our way back to Israel. I have a few questions.
What are the main things you recommend doing there? Is 2 and half days enough there? Where is the best place to stay? Is it good to stay near shuls and Kosher food, or is there a more central location that would be better?

Any info greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SrulyS on July 10, 2016, 02:37:17 AM
We are planning a trip to Barcelona in the end of October on our way back to Israel. I have a few questions.
What are the main things you recommend doing there? Is 2 and half days enough there? Where is the best place to stay? Is it good to stay near shuls and Kosher food, or is there a more central location that would be better?

Any info greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Welcome to the forums.

I was just going to direct you to the proper thread but I see you found it. Make sure to check out the links to Barcelona trip reports that are at the top of the wiki in this thread.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ypturner829 on July 10, 2016, 02:41:08 AM
Welcome to the forums.

I was just going to direct you to the proper thread but I see you found it. Make sure to check out the links to Barcelona trip reports that are at the top of the wiki in this thread.

Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 16, 2016, 11:41:10 AM
Hi, I have read Yehoshua's and Yuey's and @yehuda's TRs several times, and much of this thread, but I can't find and can't remember:
For Madrid, is it advisable to purchase tickets in advance for Prado and Sofia Museums and Royal Palace?  Someone went to the museums in the evening for free; Rick Steves says to get tickets in advance, even free, but website doesn't seem to like that approach.  Guidance?  TIA.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 16, 2016, 11:44:32 AM
Hi, I have read Yehoshua's and Yuey's and @yehuda's TRs several times, and much of this thread, but I can't find and can't remember:
For Madrid, is it advisable to purchase tickets in advance for Prado and Sofia Museums and Royal Palace?  Someone went to the museums in the evening for free; Rick Steves says to get tickets in advance, even free, but website doesn't seem to like that approach.  Guidance?  TIA.
We just bought tix for the Royal Palace when we wanted to go. There were no lines whatsoever. We didn't visit the Prado or Sofia Museums, but didn't see lines outside like at the Louvre in Paris.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 16, 2016, 11:46:55 AM
We just bought tix for the Royal Palace when we wanted to go. There were no lines whatsoever. We didn't visit the Prado or Sofia Museums, but didn't see lines outside like at the Louvre in Paris.
Thanks, Yehoshua.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on August 16, 2016, 11:55:28 AM
Only went to Palace. Had a 5-10 minute wait for the line. I don't recall seeing an entrance for those who already had tickets, not sure if that exists.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 16, 2016, 12:21:43 PM
Only went to Palace. Had a 5-10 minute wait for the line. I don't recall seeing an entrance for those who already had tickets, not sure if that exists.
Thanks, @yehuda.
Title: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 17, 2016, 06:20:24 AM
Our wait at the Palace is about 30 minutes. Wish we had bought tix last night. No line for folks w tix. Can't buy same day. Will go to Prado and Sofia later. Also no same day tix.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on August 17, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
:-(
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 17, 2016, 01:13:19 PM
:-(
The sadness continued at the Prada. But first, I will say that we enjoyed the Palace immensely. When we got out, after touring for about 90min, there was no line!

At the Prada, line was about 30 minutes. Kids under 18 and students would have been half price with id, but of course we didn't have them with us and the CSR was inflexible.

Happily, at the Reina Sofia, our luck improved. We lined up 10th in line at 6:30. By 7pm, for free entry , the line was a few hundred people long, stretching almost across the street to Atocha Stn. Not sure if you can see how long it goes in the pic. Once inside, really enjoyed seeing Guernica and other modern and post-modern works.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160817/ce280d3a0f44d0135590541a8e5ea6da.jpg)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 17, 2016, 01:27:08 PM
Sorry to hear about the wait, though as you can tell there's not always a line so we just got lucky I guess.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 19, 2016, 03:26:02 AM
Finishing up our short stay in Seville and driving to GIB in about an hour. FWIW, I see there is a Costco about one km from the HGI where we stayed. It was a nice property, nice pool, and they gave diamond breakfast for both rooms (but nothing I could eat). Flamenco show last night at La Casa del Flamenco was very good. I enjoyed going to La Carboneria afterwards even more... Kind of divey with cheap drinks and spontaneous informal singing and flamenco erupting. We also did Rick steves self guided tour through what was the Jewish ghetto. That was great. We also poked our head in a Jewish Seville museum -- small -- didn't have time to tour it.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on October 19, 2016, 04:25:32 PM
Any Jewish cemeteries in Madrid? old historical remnants of Jewish life here- the expulsion - auto de fe etc etc?
Here is what i got so far for tomorrow:
10:45 Walking tour (2.5 hrs)
Royal Palace
Museum De prado

I kind of feel like im missing anything remotely jewish.....
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on November 15, 2016, 06:17:30 PM
Any recommendations for a hotel in Madrid?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 15, 2016, 06:21:16 PM
Any recommendations for a hotel in Madrid?
I stayed here: AC Santo Mauro, Autograph Collection. Check out my TR here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=53999.msg1208819#msg1208819).
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on November 15, 2016, 06:23:00 PM
I stayed here: AC Santo Mauro, Autograph Collection. Check out my TR here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=53999.msg1208819#msg1208819).
Thanks. Will definitely read it! Any nice points options for hotels though?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 15, 2016, 06:37:32 PM
Thanks. Will definitely read it! Any nice points options for hotels though?
It is a points hotel. Marriott.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on November 16, 2016, 12:11:29 PM
Any Jewish cemeteries in Madrid? old historical remnants of Jewish life here- the expulsion - auto de fe etc etc?
Not as far as I know and I've been there numerous times.

The closest is Toledo. Some old shuls.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on November 16, 2016, 12:12:46 PM
Thanks. Will definitely read it! Any nice points options for hotels though?

The Westin Palace
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 03, 2016, 07:39:51 PM
Wow, check out the pictures of Barcelona in this TR. Did not know about this place - Monserrat!
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2016/12/03/maximizing-norwegian-reward/?utm_source=TW&utm_medium=Twitter&utm_campaign=SNAP%2Bfrom%2BOne+Mile+at+a+Time
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: as2 on January 02, 2017, 09:50:04 PM
I'm flying to BCN in August for a week on the $400 tickets. Looking to possibly jump to Ibiza, Croatia, or some other nearby destination. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 02, 2017, 09:51:29 PM
I'm flying to BCN in August for a week on the $400 tickets. Looking to possibly jump to Ibiza, Croatia, or some other nearby destination. Any suggestions?
That all depends on where you want to go, but unless you're thinking of somewhere in Spain this is the wrong thread.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: as2 on January 02, 2017, 09:55:10 PM
Well I figured due to the fact that I'm going to Spain I'd post here and if someone had a suggestion outside of Spain I'd post in another thread. I honestly am just looking to hear what others have done aside form just BCN as I know nothing of that area
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on January 02, 2017, 10:01:29 PM
Well I figured due to the fact that I'm going to Spain I'd post here and if someone had a suggestion outside of Spain I'd post in another thread. I honestly am just looking to hear what others have done aside form just BCN as I know nothing of that area
spain has many beautiful towns. we did bcn, mad, grenada, some other small ones and Gibraltar in 8 day trip
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: as2 on January 02, 2017, 10:04:08 PM
Is there anywhere in off the coast that has over water villas? I guess I'm really looking for something on the water, which is why I chose BCN over Madrid
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on January 02, 2017, 10:05:45 PM
Is there anywhere in off the coast that has over water villas? I guess I'm really looking for something on the water, which is why I chose BCN over Madrid
bcn is beautiful but it sure aint bob or mle if that's what youre looking for
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on January 02, 2017, 10:08:03 PM
there actually is a beautiful island off the shore maybe that would work for you check these out
https://www.tripadvisor.com/TravelersChoice-Islands-cTop-g187427
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: as2 on January 02, 2017, 10:47:14 PM
bcn is beautiful but it sure aint bob or mle if that's what youre looking for
I'll get out there one day...

Ill make the most of BCN for now
Title: Re: Spain And Gibraltar Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on January 13, 2017, 07:30:36 AM
Does anyone know about kosher food in Mallorca.  It seems that there is a shul and on the website it lists some kosher options....

Anyone have the answer to this?

I used to go regularly to Mallorca as we had a holiday home there. The shul is on the outskirts of Palma. Kosher provisions essentially consist of a freezer with some chicken/burgers/sausages/frozen mini challot and a cupboard with wine/grape juice to purchase. My last trip was about 4 years ago though. Anything else will need to be brought in by suitcase. Supermarkets are plentiful with inexpensive salmon/tuna/fruit/veg though.

Please let me know if you need contact details.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 22, 2017, 02:24:43 PM
What are some of the nicest hotels in BCN?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: as2 on January 22, 2017, 02:44:00 PM
What are some of the nicest hotels in BCN?
I'm planning a trip there right now actually, and from what I've seen, the W seems to be a nice option
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yuey on January 22, 2017, 02:52:32 PM
We stayed in the W and had an awesome experience. The hotel is a few minutes away from the center of town and Macabi, but it's on the beach and a scene by itself.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: as2 on January 22, 2017, 02:55:39 PM
We stayed in the W and had an awesome experience. The hotel is a few minutes away from the center of town and Macabi, but it's on the beach and a scene by itself.
I liked the idea of being on the beach. Are there any comparable options on the beach?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yuey on January 22, 2017, 03:31:46 PM
AFAIK the W is nicest place on the beach and only place you can use points
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 22, 2017, 06:15:06 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 22, 2017, 08:37:42 PM
Thanks!
You planning another trip to BCN?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 23, 2017, 05:51:11 AM
You planning another trip to BCN?
No, helping someone.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on February 20, 2017, 09:11:02 PM
Anyone have experience renting a car in Madrid... Might be worth it if taledo is the place to go for Jewish stuff
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 20, 2017, 10:37:22 PM
Anyone have experience renting a car in Madrid... Might be worth it if taledo is the place to go for Jewish stuff
You can easily take a train to Toledo and a short cab from there to the Jewish area.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on February 23, 2017, 02:47:21 AM
Left suitcase on bus from airport to city center Madrid how can I locate it
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 23, 2017, 09:34:15 AM
Left suitcase on bus from airport to city center Madrid how can I locate it
Call the lost and found. GIYF for contact info.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Ploni3 on March 06, 2017, 03:04:35 PM
booked for a 24hr stop in BCN - approximately midnight to midnight and will have a few suitcases that will not be checked through.
Looking for suggestions for revenue hotel - specifically is it better/easier to use an airport hotel and checkout early in the am and leave suitcases at front desk or to book something near Chabad/kosher food?
It doesn't look like there are any very convenient hotels right at the airport so I am wondering if it isn't just an extra waste of time to bother with and airport hotel.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Nosson21 on March 09, 2017, 11:48:10 AM
Can anyone recommend a nice hotel for one night in Barcelona? It  would probably make sense to be in the Las Ramblas Area near Maccabi Restaurant. Le Meridian looks like a good option but doesn't look like its worth the 20K Points. What other point hotels are near there? Is there a nice boutique hotel that reasonably priced?

Also, what would be the best way to make the most out of just one full day?
My wife and I did a gocar tour. Highly recommend u look them up. It's these mini cars that drive on the street. They cover all the main spots and it's gps guided so no tour guide which means u can get out and walk around as u wish.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on March 10, 2017, 01:40:26 AM
booked for a 24hr stop in BCN - approximately midnight to midnight and will have a few suitcases that will not be checked through.
Looking for suggestions for revenue hotel - specifically is it better/easier to use an airport hotel and checkout early in the am and leave suitcases at front desk or to book something near Chabad/kosher food?
It doesn't look like there are any very convenient hotels right at the airport so I am wondering if it isn't just an extra waste of time to bother with and airport hotel.
you can rent a lot clear at the airport and this way you can be done worrying about your suitcases all day.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Ploni3 on March 10, 2017, 06:59:58 AM
A "lot clear" ?  What is that?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on March 10, 2017, 07:18:09 AM
A "lot clear" ?  What is that?
locker
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on March 16, 2017, 05:26:19 PM
Anyone ever been to mallorca and have any experience there?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on March 17, 2017, 07:37:27 AM
Anyone ever been to mallorca and have any experience there?

Went for many many years to a holiday home. Small selection of kosher frozen meat and dry goods available from the shul. Otherwise you're on fresh fish, fruit and veg.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on March 17, 2017, 07:47:35 AM
Went for many many years to a holiday home. Small selection of kosher frozen meat and dry goods available from the shul. Otherwise you're on fresh fish, fruit and veg.

Oh I didn't even think about looking up if there's a shul there.
What attractions do you recommend?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on March 17, 2017, 08:28:30 AM
Oh I didn't even think about looking up if there's a shul there.
What attractions do you recommend?

There is a tiny community. Services every Friday 7.30pm and irregularly Shabbat morning. No rabbi anymore. They have a few Chabad kids over from Barcelona from time to time.

http://www.cjibalears.org/

I probably still have contact details of the guy in charge who will open up the shul for food but nothing chalav yisrael, pat palter if you require that. There are one or two Jewish sites of interest in Palma but they are covert i.e. a church built on the site of an old pre-Inquisition shul. No cemeteries or anything like that.

In terms of generally, it's a beautiful island with stunning scenery, beaches etc.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 17, 2017, 08:35:53 AM
Broken link for that website.

Any idea where the Shul is?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on March 17, 2017, 08:36:34 AM
There is a tiny community. Services every Friday 7.30pm and irregularly Shabbat morning. No rabbi anymore. They have a few Chabad kids over from Barcelona from time to time.

http://www.cjibalears.org/

I probably still have contact details of the guy in charge who will open up the shul for food but nothing chalav yisrael, pat palter if you require that. There are one or two Jewish sites of interest in Palma but they are covert i.e. a church built on the site of an old pre-Inquisition shul. No cemeteries or anything like that.

In terms of generally, it's a beautiful island with stunning scenery, beaches etc.

Were going at the end of April from Sunday to wendsday so we probably won't need the shul. The plan is to bring food as much as we can.

Any must see things on the island?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on March 17, 2017, 08:44:55 AM
Broken link for that website.

Any idea where the Shul is?

Wow nice place. Great value c+p 10k plus 115€ when the rates per night are 450€ or 20k straight points.

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on March 17, 2017, 10:11:11 AM
Broken link for that website.

Any idea where the Shul is?

Shul is on Carrer de Monsenyor Palmer

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.5698056,2.6339059,3a,75y,250.56h,76.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0AQid7CP0eTr7-jFkTw4yw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

About halfway up on the left handside. Set back from the road, doors have a couple of Magen Davids on. You can't really make it out on Google Streetview but its just before Molly Malone bar. Behind where the barrier is with the red car. Next to Chinese massage place.

Interesting kehilla - many are/were descendants on the conversos so don't count in the minyan (shul is run under MO lines). Rest are ex-pats, native Spaniards, few Israeli's etc.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on March 17, 2017, 10:14:45 AM
Were going at the end of April from Sunday to wendsday so we probably won't need the shul. The plan is to bring food as much as we can.

Any must see things on the island?

Well worth exploring Palma city centre - beautiful cobbled steps, alleyways etc. Best avoid the likes of Palma Nova and Magaluf unless you want to see British teenagers at their worst excesses.

Where are you staying? We used to be in Illetas which is about 20 min drive south-west of Palma.
Title: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on March 17, 2017, 10:22:05 AM
Well worth exploring Palma city centre - beautiful cobbled steps, alleyways etc. Best avoid the likes of Palma Nova and Magaluf unless you want to see British teenagers at their worst excesses.

Where are you staying? We used to be in Illetas which is about 20 min drive south-west of Palma.

Got it ok.
Were staying at the St regis ( about 15 minutes away from the airport)

Next to son caliu
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on March 17, 2017, 10:25:42 AM
Got it ok.
Were staying at the St regis ( about 15 minutes away from the airport)

Next to son caliu

Looks like not far from where I used to be. Worth going to Puerto Portals in the evening to see the large boats, international crowd etc. There's also a Haagen Dazs cafe there (think HD is OU?)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on March 17, 2017, 10:28:23 AM
Looks like not far from where I used to be. Worth going to Puerto Portals in the evening to see the large boats, international crowd etc. There's also a Haagen Dazs cafe there (think HD is OU?)

HD is ou idk about the location. Closed packages are definitely good to my knowledge.
Do you recommend any hikes or drives?
Do you  think I should rent a car?
Any special requirements for renting besides a us ID and drivers license?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on March 17, 2017, 10:33:04 AM
HD is ou idk about the location. Closed packages are definitely good to my knowledge.
Do you recommend any hikes or drives?
Do you  think I should rent a car?
Any special requirements for renting besides a us ID and drivers license?

AFAIK no special requirements beside ID/passport and licence but I used to rent on a UK licence/ID. Renting car is probably a good idea - very hot and island is bigger than initially appears. Plus bus service slow and irregular.

Drive up into the mountains, Valldemosa, Port D'Antratx. Not sure about hikes.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on March 17, 2017, 10:34:13 AM
AFAIK no special requirements beside ID/passport and licence but I used to rent on a UK licence/ID. Renting car is probably a good idea - very hot and island is bigger than initially appears. Plus bus service slow and irregular.

Drive up into the mountains, Valldemosa, Port D'Antratx. Not sure about hikes.

Awesome thanks so much for the help.
Signing off for shabbos.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on March 17, 2017, 10:58:03 AM
Awesome thanks so much for the help.
Signing off for shabbos.

Ditto. Have a great trip.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on March 22, 2017, 01:14:17 PM
20 hours in madrid, have 1 stopover the way to israel, get there 12pm, leave 8am booked ihg holiday in allcala what would you suggest I do by day? the way back I arrive 8pm and leave 3:25pm so i'd have an early morning.

can i just uber around there or rent ?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on March 22, 2017, 01:21:57 PM
20 hours in madrid, have 1 stopover the way to israel, get there 12pm, leave 8am booked ihg holiday in allcala what would you suggest I do by day? the way back I arrive 8pm and leave 3:25pm so i'd have an early morning.

can i just uber around there or rent ?
Public transport there is quick and efficient.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 22, 2017, 01:34:02 PM
Public transport there is quick and efficient.
+1, and lots of things are walkable from one another.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 22, 2017, 02:53:56 PM
20 hours in madrid, have 1 stopover the way to israel, get there 12pm, leave 8am booked ihg holiday in allcala what would you suggest I do by day? the way back I arrive 8pm and leave 3:25pm so i'd have an early morning.

can i just uber around there or rent ?
Check out the trip reports in the wiki for ideas.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on March 23, 2017, 12:54:52 PM
How do i pay for the bus in madrid ?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on April 06, 2017, 06:42:42 AM
Just landed in Madrid, should I go to Toledo?  I'm thinking first to hotel to see if I can get room early, drop bags and shower etc.

Is Toledo worth the hour bus ride and what's to do there
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on April 06, 2017, 06:47:40 AM
Also any concern of anti Semitsm is Madrid or Toledo?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 06, 2017, 09:17:23 AM
I have mixed feelings about Toledo - I went on a day when 1 out of the 2 Shuls was closed (I think it's closed every Tuesday or something like that), and the open was Shul was really just an empty room. Without a tour guide, it was hard to get anything out of our trip. Then again, people who have taken the tour from Madrid to Toledo (I believe Moish did that), say it was great! So I think Toledo might be one of the things that you need to do with a tour Guide to get a worthwhile experience out of it.

I didn't feel uncomfortable at all in Spain (in 2014). I wore a cap, but yeah, didn't notice anything.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on April 06, 2017, 09:56:44 AM
I've been to Spain numerous times with cap & yarmulka, never had an issue.

I took the Jewish tour guide to Toledo and he wanted me to wear a cap. I didn't have one at the time. I asked him if they even know what a Jew is. He said probably not and think you a galach.

Anyway, Toledo was very interesting (my first very old town in Europe) but the guide was necessary. Expensive but necessary.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on April 06, 2017, 10:41:05 AM
Also any concern of anti Semitsm is Madrid or Toledo?
Was in Madrid last week and decided not to wear a cap over my kippa. I kept getting stared at all over the place but no one said anything to me...
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on April 06, 2017, 11:45:02 PM
I have mixed feelings about Toledo - I went on a day when 1 out of the 2 Shuls was closed (I think it's closed every Tuesday or something like that), and the open was Shul was really just an empty room. Without a tour guide, it was hard to get anything out of our trip. Then again, people who have taken the tour from Madrid to Toledo (I believe Moish did that), say it was great! So I think Toledo might be one of the things that you need to do with a tour Guide to get a worthwhile experience out of it.

I didn't feel uncomfortable at all in Spain (in 2014). I wore a cap, but yeah, didn't notice anything.

Been to Toledo, the fact that you can see Hebrew letters inscribed on the walls from the inquisition times is fascinating, plus I believe there was head sets that explained many things about the shul.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 07, 2017, 08:49:19 AM
Been to Toledo, the fact that you can see Hebrew letters inscribed on the walls from the inquisition times is fascinating, plus I believe there was head sets that explained many things about the shul.
That must have been in the other Shul that was closed when I went. The one I was in was just an empty room. You couldn't even tell where the Aron had been.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on April 09, 2017, 05:34:34 AM
Toledo was amazing, Will go back. Just took the bus tour thing and used a guide book etc didn't see everything or nearly so but will go back.

The restaurant was OK but quite expensive :/ I'm spoiled I guess, if I can cook the same or better at home for 20% of the price.. And this hardly was convinent as they didn't deliver so it was an extra 30 min.

Next trip I'm taking all my own food, lunch was my home cured gravlax on zak bread I had brought
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 09, 2017, 08:49:02 AM
Toledo was amazing, Will go back. Just took the bus tour thing and used a guide book etc didn't see everything or nearly so but will go back.

The restaurant was OK but quite expensive :/ I'm spoiled I guess, if I can cook the same or better at home for 20% of the price.. And this hardly was convinent as they didn't deliver so it was an extra 30 min.

Next trip I'm taking all my own food, lunch was my home cured gravlax on zak bread I had brought
Did you see the Shuls?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on April 10, 2017, 08:34:36 AM
Did you see the Shuls?

No,
Maybe on the way back if I wake early
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 10, 2017, 11:21:14 AM
No,
Maybe on the way back if I wake early
You stayed in Toledo overnight? You went to Toledo for something other than the Shuls?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on April 11, 2017, 03:19:44 PM
You stayed in Toledo overnight? You went to Toledo for something other than the Shuls?

No Madrid overnight. I went to see the city, didn't see shulls. Happy to have seen yehuda halevis city
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 16, 2017, 04:11:25 PM
Anyone have any info on the "community" in Mallorca?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on May 17, 2017, 01:43:19 AM
Anyone have any info on the "community" in Mallorca?

Was just there, I didn't really look too hard into the community, but I don't know of anything active
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on May 17, 2017, 06:25:13 AM
Anyone have any info on the "community" in Mallorca?

Yes I do. I posted a few pages back. What would you like to know?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 17, 2017, 07:43:14 AM
Yes I do. I posted a few pages back. What would you like to know?

Is there a regular Shabbos morning minyan in August?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on May 17, 2017, 09:26:11 AM
Is there a regular Shabbos morning minyan in August?

There is Friday evening service every week at 7.30pm but as I understand it they only run morning services irregularly. Your best bet would be to go on Friday evening and enquire or else contact the head of the community directly. I have contact details albeit they are a few years old so the running may have changed hands.

Their website seems to have been down for a few years too.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kalman on June 08, 2017, 09:27:23 PM
Does anyone know if there are any restrictions on bringing food into Spain, such as on dairy or meats?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 08, 2017, 09:34:56 PM
Does anyone know if there are any restrictions on bringing food into Spain, such as on dairy or meats?
Officially its the same as any other EU country. You can probably bring in as much as you want.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kalman on June 08, 2017, 11:10:41 PM
What are the rules in EU countries? Are you saying that that there are no restrictions?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 08, 2017, 11:17:29 PM
What are the rules in EU countries? Are you saying that that there are no restrictions?
GIYF. I'm saying there are restrictions buy they're not more than the US.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on June 09, 2017, 12:03:27 AM
What are the rules in EU countries? Are you saying that that there are no restrictions?
officially no meat and no dairy products from non-EU countries
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Kabrams1618 on July 06, 2017, 12:07:25 AM
Have a choice between 3 ,6 and 12 hour daytime stopover in madrid.  How long will it take us to get from airport into town and how long of a stopover should we take to visit the city and not have to rush?  What do you suggest we do in such a short stop?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on July 06, 2017, 01:24:59 AM
Have a choice between 3 ,6 and 12 hour daytime stopover in madrid.  How long will it take us to get from airport into town and how long of a stopover should we take to visit the city and not have to rush?  What do you suggest we do in such a short stop?

The kings palace is nice in Madrid as is the retiro park. You can take out a boat on the water there.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 06, 2017, 03:02:25 AM
Have a choice between 3 ,6 and 12 hour daytime stopover in madrid.  How long will it take us to get from airport into town and how long of a stopover should we take to visit the city and not have to rush?  What do you suggest we do in such a short stop?
If you take the 12 hour layover you'll have plenty of time to go to Retiro Park and walk around the city.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on July 06, 2017, 04:57:31 AM
Have a choice between 3 ,6 and 12 hour daytime stopover in madrid.  How long will it take us to get from airport into town and how long of a stopover should we take to visit the city and not have to rush?  What do you suggest we do in such a short stop?

See:
http://wikitravel.org/en/Madrid
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Madrid
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 11, 2017, 10:23:32 AM
Is there anywhere in Marbella to get breakfast or lunch?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on July 11, 2017, 11:30:12 AM
Is there anywhere in Marbella to get breakfast or lunch?

El Corte Ingles in Puerto Banus has a kosher section although it's mostly dry and frozen. Little or no fresh from what I recall but I may be wrong.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 16, 2017, 08:15:14 PM
Seems there is a new Kosher establishment in Marbella. Anyone know if the Hechsher is reliable?

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Chez-Alain/157772628085111
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: as2 on July 17, 2017, 05:06:52 PM
Anybody know of a hotel in Barcelona that is somewhat shabbos friendly?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: mkatsanis@yahoo.com on July 18, 2017, 07:05:05 PM
I have an upcoming airbnb reservation in Palma, and the host is saying that due to a recent change in Spanish law I have to sign a lease.  Has anyone experienced that?  Is that legit?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 18, 2017, 09:07:16 PM
I have an upcoming airbnb reservation in Palma, and the host is saying that due to a recent change in Spanish law I have to sign a lease.  Has anyone experienced that?  Is that legit?
Interesting. I wouldn't put it past them. They did ban UberX 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kalman on July 23, 2017, 10:29:52 PM
Is the milk in Spain kosher? Also, is there shelf-stable milk?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kalman on July 27, 2017, 09:27:51 PM
Is the milk in Spain kosher? Also, is there shelf-stable milk?

bump

I guess this would be related to whether the milk in Europe in general is kosher. (Obviously not CY)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Kabrams1618 on July 27, 2017, 11:12:13 PM
At madrid airport, anything kosher to buy to eat or anything kosher in Iberia lounge?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 27, 2017, 11:19:35 PM
At madrid airport, anything kosher to buy to eat or anything kosher in Iberia lounge?
Water is always a safe bet.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on July 30, 2017, 02:39:44 PM
1. Any feedback on the kosher restaurant in Marbella (aside from the Facebook page)?
2. I wonder how long is the drive from Marbella to Gibraltar, and what would a taxi cost?
Thanks!

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 30, 2017, 06:09:00 PM
1. Any feedback on the kosher restaurant in Marbella (aside from the Facebook page)?
2. I wonder how long is the drive from Marbella to Gibraltar, and what would a taxi cost?
Thanks!
Look into KosherQuest.com and email R Eidlitz
Check Google Maps and taxifarefinder.com
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: as2 on July 31, 2017, 06:24:14 PM
Does anyone know what the deal is with Isamar Kosher grocery in Barcelona? Google is showing it as permanently closed.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on August 01, 2017, 08:11:14 AM
Does anyone know what the deal is with Isamar Kosher grocery in Barcelona? Google is showing it as permanently closed.
It barely had anything anyway, not much of loss, although I guess something is better than nothing. But you can get in touch with the Chabad Mashgiach at Maccabee Restaurant to ask. He was easy to reach IIRC and had info on the Shuls and food situation in BCN when I went.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: as2 on August 01, 2017, 08:12:51 AM
It barely had anything anyway, not much of loss, although I guess something is better than nothing.
Lol true. And I'm CY, do can't even have Nutella
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on August 01, 2017, 09:59:39 AM
Lol true. And I'm CY, do can't even have Nutella
Good job reading  ;D
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: as2 on August 01, 2017, 10:15:14 AM
Good job reading  ;D
Of course, how else should  I plan my trip?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on August 29, 2017, 10:33:01 AM
Anyone been to the Park Hyatt Mallorca?

And any recommended itin for a week in Spain?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 29, 2017, 12:11:05 PM
Anyone been to the Park Hyatt Mallorca?

And any recommended itin for a week in Spain?
We had a lovely time in Spain for almost a week, but didn't go to Mallorca. See my TR here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=53999.msg1208819#msg1208819).
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 29, 2017, 12:43:28 PM
Anyone been to the Park Hyatt Mallorca?

paging @damaxer91
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on August 29, 2017, 12:45:49 PM
paging @damaxer91

Highly recommend!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on August 29, 2017, 03:55:47 PM
Anyone been to the Park Hyatt Mallorca?

And any recommended itin for a week in Spain?
TR (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=42333.msg876205#msg876205) here. Went to MAD, BCN, SVQ and Gibraltar for Shabbos.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on August 31, 2017, 03:55:53 PM
1.  I am trying to find out how to arrange in advance to be hosted for Shabbos meals in Gibraltar. I emailed the Gibraltar Jewish Community website but have not heard back yet. I wonder if any other DDF posters were hosted and can share information.   

2. I see that kosher meals are listed as available on trains in Spain. I wonder it is really available and, if so, are they good? 
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on August 31, 2017, 11:51:20 PM
Can you link to where you saw that about the trains?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on September 01, 2017, 08:07:24 AM
At the risk of cross-posting, here's what I found (GIYF):

First, Renfo, the Spanish Railways, says that you can get special meals, inc. kosher: http://www.renfe.com/EN/viajeros/larga_distancia/servicios/serviciosRestauracion.html

Second, someone on FT posted his experience in 2014:
"Quick update in case anyone is interested. I ended up booking 'Preferente'. For the 1 hour 40 minute ride from Cordoba to Madrid at 3pm they provided a full 3 course hot kosher meal for each of us, from WAM in Paris (under supervision of dayan of Creteil). Meal included Salade Niceoise (or salmon pate), chicken with pasta and vegetables, fruit compote and halva. I think it was long life but frozen by caterer. Not wonderful, but better then Stogel and appreciated in a country where kosher food is hard to obtain.
We also had 2-3 drink services on board, plus headphone service and snack (not kosher).
Only kosher food in lounge was drinks (cans of coke/juice/water etc).

I was quite impressed with the value, at EUR 41 per person for a 1 hour 40 minute ride of nearly 400 km (standard class was EUR 24 or so)"
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on September 01, 2017, 10:46:20 AM
Cool! In terms of quality, I think that posts answers your question for you. In terms of availability, you'd probably have to call Renfe to confirm they still offer that. If you're looking to verify that hashgacha, I'd ask R' Eidlitz from KosherQuest.org if he knows.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on September 01, 2017, 10:59:17 AM
Cool! In terms of quality, I think that posts answers your question for you. In terms of availability, you'd probably have to call Renfe to confirm they still offer that. If you're looking to verify that hashgacha, I'd ask R' Eidlitz from KosherQuest.org if he knows.
I was hoping to hear from others who may had recent practical experience with this before I try to call  Renfe and, also, actual experiences and opinions as to ready availablity, quality and value may vary.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on October 22, 2017, 09:14:38 AM
Would people go to Barcelona now with all that's going on there?

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 22, 2017, 09:30:40 AM
Would people go to Barcelona now with all that's going on there?
Yes. I went to Paris shortly after the Charlie Hebdo shooting and it was fine.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on October 22, 2017, 01:06:52 PM
Would people go to Barcelona now with all that's going on there?

Going there in a few days.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on October 22, 2017, 01:17:10 PM
Would people go to Barcelona now with all that's going on there?
My sister was just there, NP.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: as2 on October 22, 2017, 03:53:29 PM
Was there 8/17 and would still happily go again.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on October 22, 2017, 04:30:30 PM
Going there in a few days.
Cool, will you be there next week?

Seems to be getting worse though. 450k people protesting yesterday etc.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on October 23, 2017, 04:20:47 AM
Going there in a few days.

Wow I’m looking into being there too. Should we make a DO? ;)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on October 23, 2017, 06:51:01 AM
Cool, will you be there next week?

No. Are you there next week?

Wow I’m looking into being there too. Should we make a DO? ;)

;)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on October 23, 2017, 07:59:34 AM
No. Are you there next week?

;)
Hopefully, unless we ditch Spain for a less rowdy country at the moment.

Wanna leave me a toaster oven lol
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on October 23, 2017, 01:34:35 PM
Wanna leave me a toaster oven lol

:)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: as2 on October 23, 2017, 02:22:18 PM


Wanna leave me a toaster oven lol
I left a gallon of CY milk, a couple month old by now, but would make great cottage cheese.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on November 30, 2017, 03:20:53 PM
Looking for opinions.

I'm planning a night in Barcelona and don't know where to stay. I've been to the Le Meridian twice and, although it's very convenient, I wouldn't mind a change.

Choices include:
W
Ritz - Hotel Arts
One of three Hilton Hotels: Alexandra Barcelona Hotel, Curio Collection by Hilton, Hilton Barcelona, Hilton Diagonal Mar Barcelona
Crowne Plaza

Anyone spend the night in any of these?

Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 30, 2017, 03:51:44 PM
No, but we chose an amazing Airbnb right near Las Ramblas. Was convenient, cheap and quite nice.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on November 30, 2017, 04:09:14 PM
All my choices are points hotels of which I have enough. So why pay?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 30, 2017, 04:27:00 PM
All my choices are points hotels of which I have enough. So why pay?
Because you want something close, nice and it doesn't cost that much?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on December 06, 2017, 10:06:41 AM
Anyone hear of a new restaurant in Barcelona called Shaq Shuq. According to yeahthatskosher.com it is certified by Harabanut Hareishit of Barcelona & Catalonia, using Bet Yosef meat.

Good Hashgacha?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 06, 2017, 10:49:36 AM
Ask R' Eizdlitz from KosherQuest.org.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: elnubie on December 20, 2017, 11:33:45 PM
Anyone been to Basque country (including both Spain and France) ? We're planning a 2 week vacation in that area. Would appreciate suggestions on itinerary and cities/hotels to stay at.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Chaim#1 on December 21, 2017, 05:19:36 AM
thinking about doing a trip next week for 2-3 days should i go to athens and the surroundings or Barcelona? should i do both ? is there enough to do in Barcelona for 3 days ? any help would be appreciated 
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 21, 2017, 10:17:26 AM
thinking about doing a trip next week for 2-3 days should i go to athens and the surroundings or Barcelona? should i do both ? is there enough to do in Barcelona for 3 days ? any help would be appreciated
3 days is a lot of time in Barcelona. There's the Jewish tour (see wiki), La Ramblas street to walk down with Maccabi restaurant (supposedly a 2nd restaurant opened recently), Park Guell to walk through, a few Gaudi buildings you could see if that interests you like La Pedrera/Casa Mila, you can pass by the church Sagrada Familia, take the free walking tour from Travel Bar. Even if you did all that, you'd only fill 1.5-2 days.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on December 21, 2017, 11:42:28 AM
3 days is a lot of time in Barcelona. There's the Jewish tour (see wiki), La Ramblas street to walk down with Maccabi restaurant (supposedly a 2nd restaurant opened recently), Park Guell to walk through, a few Gaudi buildings you could see if that interests you like La Pedrera/Casa Mila, you can pass by the church Sagrada Familia, take the free walking tour from Travel Bar. Even if you did all that, you'd only fill 1.5-2 days.
I am also planning a first time trip to Barcelona. I booked the 2 hour Jewish tour on http://www.barcelonadreaming.com/package/barcelona-jewish-tour/ . The second new restaurant advertised as kosher is Shaq Shuq, also near La Rambla.  In addition to all of the sights above, there is a Picasso museum if you are interested, and I wonder if a trip to Montjuic ("Mountain of Jews" in Catalan) would be worthwhile. Looks like a 10 minute cab right from La Rambla area, with various sights: castle, art musuems, old spanish village tourist attraction, and former ancient Jewish cemetery (I think it is no longer visible, although some graves were found.)     
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on December 21, 2017, 12:36:35 PM
I took a long walk on Montjuic and there really is nothing there. The only thing I found was a few Olympic stadiums from when they held the Olympics there. I couldn't find any Jewish cemetery. Didn't notice anything else of interest, although I might have missed something.

Probably included in the Jewish tour is the Rashba's Shul which is a couple of blocks off La Rambla.

Summertime, I'm sure the beach is nice. There is a cable car that goes up to Montjuic, I think.

Plenty of shopping if that's your thing.

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 22, 2017, 08:17:40 AM
I am also planning a first time trip to Barcelona. I booked the 2 hour Jewish tour on http://www.barcelonadreaming.com/package/barcelona-jewish-tour/ . The second new restaurant advertised as kosher is Shaq Shuq, also near La Rambla.  In addition to all of the sights above, there is a Picasso museum if you are interested, and I wonder if a trip to Montjuic ("Mountain of Jews" in Catalan) would be worthwhile. Looks like a 10 minute cab right from La Rambla area, with various sights: castle, art musuems, old spanish village tourist attraction, and former ancient Jewish cemetery (I think it is no longer visible, although some graves were found.)   
Didn't realize there were 2 tour companies. Want to add yours to the wiki (and info on the restaurant)? My tour mentioned a Jewish cemetery, but only visited it if you booked the extended tour.

I took a long walk on Montjuic and there really is nothing there. The only thing I found was a few Olympic stadiums from when they held the Olympics there. I couldn't find any Jewish cemetery. Didn't notice anything else of interest, although I might have missed something.

Probably included in the Jewish tour is the Rashba's Shul which is a couple of blocks off La Rambla.

Summertime, I'm sure the beach is nice. There is a cable car that goes up to Montjuic, I think.

Plenty of shopping if that's your thing.


By the Rashba's shul, are you referring to the small hole in the wall Shul/museum? I don't remember them saying it was the Rashba's, and they definitely didn't mention there being 2 Shuls in the area.
OP said he's going next week, only reason I didn't mention the beach.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on December 22, 2017, 09:31:04 AM
I don't remember who told me that it is the Rashba's shul. I just googled it and wikipedia says it as well.

True that it is now a hole-in-the-wall but it was probably larger then. They only recently rediscovered it.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 22, 2017, 10:38:20 AM
I don't remember who told me that it is the Rashba's shul. I just googled it and wikipedia says it as well.

True that it is now a hole-in-the-wall but it was probably larger then. They only recently rediscovered it.
Maybe I just forgot / missed it. Cool - just glad to know it's the same Shul and I didn't miss seeing one.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread - pesach in Barcelona, 2018
Post by: drbrain on December 27, 2017, 09:12:00 AM
Planning on going to Spain in 2018 over Pesach.  Any tips on where to stay? Is there a place to by kosher for passover food in barcelona?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on January 01, 2018, 10:58:35 AM
I note that many interesting trip planning questions go unanswered, or are not completely or thoroughly dealt with; and I would love to learn how it worked out and how the questioners would answer their own questions upon their return. That would make the DDF an even  more valuable resource for trip planners. I propose that, while we may not have the time or inclination to do a trip report, when we have some time after returning, to please go back and quote your own question and answer it in the same thread for the benefit of others. Thank you in advance. 
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on January 01, 2018, 02:07:06 PM
thinking about doing a trip next week for 2-3 days should i go to athens and the surroundings or Barcelona? should i do both ? is there enough to do in Barcelona for 3 days ? any help would be appreciated
Please let us know what you decided, and how it went, as I am also planning a trip to Spain, iy’H in the Spring.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on January 01, 2018, 02:22:31 PM
And any recommended itin for a week in Spain?
Where did you end up going in Spain, and how was it?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on January 01, 2018, 08:50:16 PM
Chabad Barcelona sent me this link to a Virtual 3D Tour of the old Jewish neighborhood of Barcelona, around the Gothic District:

http://www.chabadbarcelona-lametayel.com/tourbariojudiobarcelona
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: newdaybegin@gmail.com on January 07, 2018, 12:04:53 AM
No, but we chose an amazing Airbnb right near Las Ramblas. Was convenient, cheap and quite nice.

Can you give me the name of the place/host? I also going to be in Spain in 4 month? thanks!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Chaim#1 on January 11, 2018, 06:56:17 AM
Please let us know what you decided, and how it went, as I am also planning a trip to Spain, iy’H in the Spring.

I went to Athens in the end and it was great!!!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Hiroki on January 11, 2018, 11:37:38 PM
I recommend you to try visit this place in Spain located in Canary Island. It is called Gran Canaria and it is a must-visit in Spain. Me and my friends booked a flight to Spain and didnt waste any minutes to visit this island. .You must check it out for yourself. Read here more here at https://www.canaryislandsinfo.co.uk/gran-canaria/places/ for more information regarding to place.

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on January 12, 2018, 02:17:43 AM
I recommend you to try visit this place in Spain located in Canary Island. It is called Gran Canaria and it is a must-visit in Spain. Me and my friends booked a flight to Spain and didnt waste any minutes to visit this island. .You must check it out for yourself. Read here more here at https://www.canaryislandsinfo.co.uk/gran-canaria/places/ for more information regarding to place.
Been there, very nice.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on January 12, 2018, 08:13:55 AM
I recommend you to try visit this place in Spain located in Canary Island. It is called Gran Canaria and it is a must-visit in Spain. Me and my friends booked a flight to Spain and didnt waste any minutes to visit this island. .You must check it out for yourself. Read here more here at https://www.canaryislandsinfo.co.uk/gran-canaria/places/ for more information regarding to place.
Aren’t the Canary Islands, and Palma de Majorca,  primarily warm weather, beach destinations?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on January 13, 2018, 12:46:05 AM
Aren’t the Canary Islands, and Palma de Majorca,  primarily warm weather, beach destinations?
Mainly, yes.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on February 16, 2018, 11:32:12 AM
I am trying to find out how to arrange in advance to be hosted for Shabbos meals in Gibraltar. I emailed the Gibraltar Jewish Community website but have not heard back yet. I wonder if any other DDF posters were hosted and can share information.   

Posted this before, but reposting now closer to my upcoming trip to see if anyone else might want to weigh with some helpful advice on this. Seems awkward to solicit a Shabbos meal invite but apparently this is how it’s done in Gibraltar.

Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on February 24, 2018, 07:33:39 PM
Is it safe and comfortable to walk around in Spain wearing a yarmulke, or is a hat a better idea? We plan to visit Madrid, Toledo, Granada, Seville, Barcelona, and also Gibraltar.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on February 24, 2018, 08:27:46 PM
Is it safe and comfortable to walk around in Spain wearing a yarmulke, or is a hat a better idea? We plan to visit Madrid, Toledo, Granada, Seville, Barcelona, and also Gibraltar.

Walked around wearing a yarmulka in MAD, GRX and BCN no problem, no hat.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on March 07, 2018, 12:56:33 PM
Walked around wearing a yarmulka in MAD, GRX and BCN no problem, no hat.
How was the trip? Did you take any Jewish tours? How were the kosher restaurants?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on March 07, 2018, 01:08:54 PM
Trip was great. Did not take any Jewish tours in Spain, we did our own touring.

Only went to Restaurants in BCN. Shaq Shuq was decent - though I did not try any of the meat/chicken dishes there. Maccabi was very good. Both had great service.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on March 07, 2018, 01:24:50 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 07, 2018, 03:23:25 PM
Did you take any Jewish tours?
Dominique in Barcelona gave a great Jewish tour. See wiki for link.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on March 15, 2018, 05:02:45 PM
Yes I read the Wiki.

Heres my thoughts:
I want to spend monday and tuesday in Barcelona, Wednesday in Cordoba then Thursday Seville ? do I need a day at each? really just want to tour the city, see old buildings etc. Was thinking to get the AVE to cordoba and then seville

Now my dilemma, earlier plan was to do wednesday and thursday in Athens, will do that on return. However, im not seeing any normal flights to TLV  from MAD or BCN on thursday may 31 or friday june 30.

rawr, any ideas or suggestions ?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on March 15, 2018, 05:15:21 PM
nvm got it woohoo

basically i can fly seville to Lisbon with a  24 hour stopover in Lisbon and its cheaper than lisbon to miami.. ;) so the thought is tlv to bcn.. then AVE train to cordoba, train to seville, flight to lisbon then miami.

HA! does that make sense ? no it doesnt especially if im going to Barcelona on the way TO israel FML

Suggestions ?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on March 15, 2018, 07:47:39 PM
Chevron: I haven’t yet been there but it sounds too rushed. I was told by a Jewish tour guide to skip Cordoba because the main site there, The Mesquita, is currently an active church, a Catholic cathedral.Doesn’t pay to go to that city just to see the statue of the Rambam.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on March 15, 2018, 09:34:31 PM
Chevron: I haven’t yet been there but it sounds too rushed. I was told by a Jewish tour guide to skip Cordoba because the main site there, The Mesquita, is currently an active church, a Catholic cathedral.Doesn’t pay to go to that city just to see the statue of the Rambam.

I like beautiful old cities. Plus it's nice to see where the great scholars lived. In Toledo I could imagine Yehuda halevi
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sams on March 15, 2018, 09:38:07 PM
 Toledo was beautiful
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on March 15, 2018, 10:20:44 PM
Granada is beautiful.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on March 15, 2018, 10:22:06 PM
Granada is beautiful.

Yup, great place!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on March 16, 2018, 10:32:34 AM
Toledo was stunning and spent just a few hours there. I'll try to fit in Grenada. How's Valencia?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on March 16, 2018, 10:39:58 AM
Granada is stunning but out of the way, instead of 45 minutes from Cordova to Seville, it's 2.5 hours Cordova to Granada than 2.5 hours to Seville. Is it worth It?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on March 16, 2018, 11:01:13 AM
Flew there from Madrid for 4.5k avios and from there another 4.5k avios to Barcelona. Great place to visit.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on March 18, 2018, 03:25:36 PM
I can fly from BCN to granada, bus to cordoba, bus to seville.

Question, is Malaga worth the visit ?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on March 18, 2018, 04:40:50 PM
Haven't been there yet, but based on my trip planning and reading here and elsewhere, I would skip Cordoba; and I think that Malaga is more of a summer beach destination but perhaps with a kosher restaurant in season? 
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on March 18, 2018, 07:38:54 PM
Everyone tells me Cordova is beautiful
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on March 18, 2018, 09:29:19 PM
Everyone tells me Cordova is beautiful

I did Madrid, Teledo, cordova for 1 day, Granada, BCN all beautiful.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on March 20, 2018, 08:25:07 PM
Granada is beautiful.
ual902 and Yaalili: Where did you stay in Granada? What did you do for kosher food? Did you take a guided tour of the Alhambra or do it on your own?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on March 20, 2018, 08:29:50 PM
ual902 and Yaalili: Where did you stay in Granada? What did you do for kosher food? Did you take a guided tour of the Alhambra or do it on your own?

Did the Alhambra without any official tour guide. There are lots of sign with information and other tour groups that are walking/chatting nearby. Stayed at an Airbnb 10 minute walk from Alhambra.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on March 20, 2018, 08:33:01 PM
Stayed at this place - https://www.booking.com/hotel/es/paseo-de-los-tristes.html

Host was very friendly and spoke English well. She had an office in downtown, where she was happy to store my luggage in the morning till the apartment was ready. She had someone drive it over later in the afternoon and met me there with the keys.

Great location and affordable. I would recommend it.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on March 20, 2018, 10:24:00 PM
ual902 and Yaalili: Where did you stay in Granada? What did you do for kosher food? Did you take a guided tour of the Alhambra or do it on your own?

Stayed 1 night in a hostel, did do alhambra no tour.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: E-MAN on May 04, 2018, 11:56:10 AM
Is shul in Mallorca still functional? Website does not seem to work.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on May 06, 2018, 02:28:38 AM
Is shul in Mallorca still functional? Website does not seem to work.
I think they have on weekends, not sure about during the week
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on May 08, 2018, 09:28:08 AM
I think they have on weekends, not sure about during the week

We used to holiday regularly in Mallorca.

Services are every Friday night 7.30pm and occasional Shabbat mornings. No midweek services aside from chagim.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on May 08, 2018, 03:55:50 PM
Mini-Trip Report: We visited Madrid, Toledo, Seville, Gibraltar, Granada and Barcelona; and then Israel.
In Madrid, I recommend Pinati Restaurant, where we ate both nights that we were there. It opens for dinner at 7 pm, and the other restaurant, which did not seem to get great reviews, only opens at 8:30 pm. They are a few blocks from each other and close to the heavily guarded shul, where you will need a passport to enter. The Prado Museum is amazing if you appreciate art. Shlomo Hanoka gave us a great day tour from Madrid to Toledo, highlighting the Jewish history in a very meaningful way, and I highly recommend him as well.
They served us a nice kosher meal on board the Renfe train from Madrid to Seville, order in advance, on Preferente class, dining car.
Seville tour guide Moises Hassan was excellent, as was our stay there in the Hotel La Casas de la Juderia, in a junior suite. We happened to be there for the Seville Spring Fair, which was very festive and colorful. Tour guide and driver Abby Suissa (see Gibraltar thread) drove us from Seville to Gibraltar, gave us a tour of Gibraltar, where we spent Shabbos in the Sunborn Hotel. Afterwards, he drove us to Granada. The Alhambra Palace there is beautiful; I recommend a guided tour. We flew from Granada to Barcelona,where we visited Gaudi's colorful Parc Guell as well as La Pedera, a/k/a Casa Mila. The latter was very interesting, I recommend you take the audio tour which starts with an elevator ride to the roof, one of the main attractions, and then walks you down. We enjoyed walking around Barcelona, not so much La Rambla, which is a bit too Times Square touristy, but rather the Passieg de Garcia and nearby streets. We stayed at the Le Meridien right off La Rambla, which was very nice, and we ate at the nearby Restaurant Maccabi, an excellent restaurant with great food, and also took out from Shaq Shuq a few blocks away.         
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: teaneckyo on May 10, 2018, 08:58:12 AM
Can anyone recommend a good Airbnb in Barcelona and one in MAdrid close to shul for shabbos. Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 10, 2018, 09:27:30 AM
Can anyone recommend a good Airbnb in Barcelona and one in MAdrid close to shul for shabbos. Thanks
I stayed at a grest Airbnb in Barcelona, right near Maccabi. See my TR.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on May 22, 2018, 06:41:30 PM
How do I avoid getting pickpocketed? Backpack locks work?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: as2 on May 22, 2018, 06:55:32 PM
How do I avoid getting pickpocketed? Backpack locks work?
Same way you'd avoid it in NYC or any other major city. Be conscious of your surroundings, and try to keep valuables in places that can't be easily picked.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Luvisrael on May 23, 2018, 11:46:13 AM
How do I avoid getting pickpocketed? Backpack locks work?
never carry valuables in your pocket! wee always find creative places to put things... think stroller etc..
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on May 23, 2018, 12:37:35 PM
Same way you'd avoid it in NYC or any other major city. Be conscious of your surroundings, and try to keep valuables in places that can't be easily picked.
+ 1
For example, when traveling, I like to wear a jacket with an inside zippered pocket for my wallet (and passports when not in the hotel safe). 
Back home, on the NYC subways or crowded streets, I have always just kept my wallet in my regular front pocket, staying aware, but without much concern. If I was a tourist, I would probably be more careful to heed travel guide warnings. After my recent visit to Spain, I felt that those warnings were way overdone, although it probably depends where and when you go.       
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on May 23, 2018, 01:50:41 PM
never carry valuables in your pocket! wee always find creative places to put things... think stroller etc..
Stroller doesnt sound like a great idea to me for a place to keep valuables
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 23, 2018, 02:45:00 PM
Stroller doesnt sound like a great idea to me for a place to keep valuables
Why not? Who's going to steal your stroller?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on May 23, 2018, 02:48:55 PM
Why not? Who's going to steal your stroller?
they wont steal the stroller, but they can steal what is in the stroller
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on May 28, 2018, 03:55:17 AM
Any issues with yarmulke and tzitzis in Barcelona? I see @Yaalili mentioned no issues.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on May 28, 2018, 04:05:53 AM
Anything to see on the Barcelona coast? 
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on May 28, 2018, 06:55:33 AM
Anything to see on the Barcelona coast? 

If you’ve covered bcn and looking for a day trip, you can do Girona or Andorra from bcn.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on May 28, 2018, 08:55:40 AM
Any issues with yarmulke and tzitzis in Barcelona? I see @Yaalili mentioned no issues.
You should not have a problem. It’s the same as Manhattan or Miami. Some people may be antisemitic but most are tolerant and hardly take notice. And only  the Jews and Israeli tourists will have any idea what the tzittis are, or even care less.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on May 30, 2018, 05:18:25 PM
Airbus to placa catalunya no problem. Stayed in acta atrium hotel $100 a night. Small room but incredible service.

Macabbi was OK, it's like a blast in the past so that's nice. Great wine options!! 26 Euro for habib (not Mevushal!!)

Got Andalusian bread which was OK, it's bread with tomato's and I think anchovies?

Meat kebab was nice as were the potato wedges fries.

Grilled salmon was not Good. Who grills salmon skin off?!? Veggies it came with were meh. $90 bill was OK when you count the wine, but if you factor the wine being so cheap blah.

Rambla was nice but lousy tourist trap

On day 2 I took the city tour bus. Very nice. Wanted to do both routes but only got to do one.

Barcelona is stunning by day and by night.

Took the train to marca falsat to elvi wines..time of my life!! Today I visited Capcanes in monsat, incredible.

So rather than macabbi x2 I went to shaq shuq. It's weird because I could have sworn I saw shaq shuq sign on Rambla?!? That was Monday but it's all the way in the other way?!?

So I suppose I should have ordered staple items but I got grilled lamb, pretty good, comes with roasted veggies which are just peppers, misleading I thought. Got baked potato which were baked potato slices, OK but oil galore ugh and house bread was not fresh seemingly challa brought.

Nu Nu I had an incredible time Bh. Off to Israel now!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on June 05, 2018, 06:36:40 PM
Airbus to placa catalunya no problem. Stayed in acta atrium hotel $100 a night. Small room but incredible service.

Macabbi was OK, it's like a blast in the past so that's nice. Great wine options!! 26 Euro for habib (not Mevushal!!)

Got Andalusian bread which was OK, it's bread with tomato's and I think anchovies?

Meat kebab was nice as were the potato wedges fries.

Grilled salmon was not Good. Who grills salmon skin off?!? Veggies it came with were meh. $90 bill was OK when you count the wine, but if you factor the wine being so cheap blah.

Rambla was nice but lousy tourist trap

On day 2 I took the city tour bus. Very nice. Wanted to do both routes but only got to do one.

Barcelona is stunning by day and by night.

Took the train to marca falsat to elvi wines..time of my life!! Today I visited Capcanes in monsat, incredible.

So rather than macabbi x2 I went to shaq shuq. It's weird because I could have sworn I saw shaq shuq sign on Rambla?!? That was Monday but it's all the way in the other way?!?

So I suppose I should have ordered staple items but I got grilled lamb, pretty good, comes with roasted veggies which are just peppers, misleading I thought. Got baked potato which were baked potato slices, OK but oil galore ugh and house bread was not fresh seemingly challa brought.

Nu Nu I had an incredible time Bh. Off to Israel now!
Nice Food Review..... Did you see any sites... any photos? where did you stay??
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on June 05, 2018, 06:40:45 PM
Planning a trip to Barcelona
and I could use some help



1. In 1 day What would you recommend?
I would Love to do
Jewish tour with Urban Cultours.
Segway Tour (Which I'm guessing should cover most sites)
Gaudi's colorful Parc Guell as well as La Pedera, a/k/a Casa Mila. The latter was very interesting, I recommend you take the audio tour which starts with an elevator ride to the roof, one of the main attractions, and then walks you down. We enjoyed walking around Barcelona, not so much La Rambla, which is a bit too Times Square touristy, but rather the Passieg de Garcia and nearby streets. We stayed at the Le Meridien right off La Rambla, which was very nice, and we ate at the nearby Restaurant Maccabi, an excellent restaurant with great food, and also took out from Shaq Shuq a few blocks away.       


2. How Far is city center to Airport and Security and custom times? I have a 6:30 flight
is leaving at 4:30 safe?


3. Hotel Any recommendations from experience? Must have a pool

4. Should I opt for Athens over Barcelona?
it was extremely humid
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on June 05, 2018, 06:42:07 PM
Planning a trip to Barcelona
and I could use some help



1. In 1 day What would you recommend?
I would Love to do
Jewish Tour
Segway Tour (Which I'm guessing should cover most sites)


2. How Far is city center to Airport and Security and custom times? I have a 6:30 flight
is leaving at 4:30 safe?


3. Hotel Any recommendations from experience? Must have a pool
i heard great things about the W
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 05, 2018, 07:56:18 PM
Someone recently wrote a TR and stayed at a hotel with a pool. Might have been the W, not sure.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: as2 on June 05, 2018, 10:30:42 PM
Someone recently wrote a TR and stayed at a hotel with a pool. Might have been the W, not sure.
Twas I. Stayed at the Renaissance Barcelona Fira. It had a great rooftop pool, but was probably a bit far out for most.
TR link: click me! (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=92228.0)
Title: Kosher in Ibiza
Post by: avbar88 on June 12, 2018, 12:58:22 PM
Hi there

Was wondering if anyone had experience with kosher and or shabbos there.

Looking for advice if I should extend my trip and stay in ibiza for shabbos or fly to somewhere close by (barcelona, madrid, etc) and wrap up the trip there before heading back to ny.
Title: Re: Kosher in Ibiza
Post by: chevron on June 12, 2018, 06:16:18 PM
Hi there

Was wondering if anyone had experience with kosher and or shabbos there.

Looking for advice if I should extend my trip and stay in ibiza for shabbos or fly to somewhere close by (barcelona, madrid, etc) and wrap up the trip there before heading back to ny.

Plenty of kosher in barcelona, less so in madrid
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: avbar88 on June 12, 2018, 06:34:00 PM
Thanks for the reply

Anything in Ibiza?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 12, 2018, 07:52:10 PM
Thanks for the reply

Anything in Ibiza?
No restaurants
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on June 14, 2018, 03:02:01 PM
I'll be taking a train from Valencia to Cordoba/Seville (arriving mid-day) and flying out of Seville (afternoon the next day).

I need some advice as to where to sleep, Cordoba or Seville. Which city has more to see? Which is nicer to walk around in the evening?

Or maybe, I should just choose one of them?

Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on June 14, 2018, 06:37:24 PM
I'll be taking a train from Valencia to Cordoba/Seville (arriving mid-day) and flying out of Seville (afternoon the next day).

I need some advice as to where to sleep, Cordoba or Seville. Which city has more to see? Which is nicer to walk around in the evening?

Or maybe, I should just choose one of them?

Thanks

I did Cordoba, Grenada then BCN amazing cities.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SRM on June 25, 2018, 04:26:24 PM
are there any kosher wineries in southern Spain?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on June 25, 2018, 04:58:27 PM
are there any kosher wineries in southern Spain?

not that I know of
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: SRM on June 28, 2018, 01:26:08 PM
not that I know of

Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on June 30, 2018, 11:18:47 PM
Is there Uber in Madrid? Best way to get around the city for one day?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on June 30, 2018, 11:33:02 PM
Is there Uber in Madrid? Best way to get around the city for one day?

Yes there is uber there. Can also get around on the metro system, easy to use.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 01, 2018, 12:27:51 AM
Yes there is uber there. Can also get around on the metro system, easy to use.
+1, we just walked and used the metro system. We also used it to the airport.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Moshe J on July 09, 2018, 08:20:00 PM
I will be going to Mallorca end of July. Any must sees, tips, hidden gems etc.. any information is appreciated. Thank You
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: MrKaplan on August 15, 2018, 12:48:52 AM
I will be going to Mallorca end of July. Any must sees, tips, hidden gems etc.. any information is appreciated. Thank You
Thinking about going to Mallorca. How was your trip?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on September 14, 2018, 09:43:21 AM
Anybody been to both Pinati & La Escudella is Madrid?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on September 14, 2018, 04:29:41 PM
Is there Uber in Madrid? Best way to get around the city for one day?
Center of City with main sights is very walkable
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on October 21, 2018, 07:09:47 AM
Anybody been to both Pinati & La Escudella is Madrid?
Anyone? @PlatinumGuy
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 21, 2018, 08:48:40 AM
Didn’t end up going. Toledo is beautiful though and an absolute must do
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: justaregularguy on October 22, 2018, 08:42:24 PM
Can anyone suggest  a place to stay in Madrid that’s not a hotel? Meaning is there any Jewish community there to set some ppl up for a night?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 22, 2018, 08:55:54 PM
Can anyone suggest  a place to stay in Madrid that’s not a hotel? Meaning is there any Jewish community there to set some ppl up for a night?
From what I understand, there's not really a community where people get set up for Shabbos or any other time. Call the Rabbi if you want a more definite answer, but I believe people here have stayed in hotels or Airbnbs.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: justaregularguy on October 22, 2018, 09:10:11 PM
From what I understand, there's not really a community where people get set up for Shabbos or any other time. Call the Rabbi if you want a more definite answer, but I believe people here have stayed in hotels or Airbnbs.
what is avg price for airbnb(assuming that’s the cheaper option)?

ETA:Never mind the Airbnb question I’ll research myself

What’s the rabbi name/shul?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 22, 2018, 09:30:52 PM
what is avg price for airbnb(assuming that’s the cheaper option)?

ETA:Never mind the Airbnb question I’ll research myself

What’s the rabbi name/shul?
Look up chabad. I don't know off hand.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ukinny on October 23, 2018, 07:40:39 AM
what is avg price for airbnb(assuming that’s the cheaper option)?

ETA:Never mind the Airbnb question I’ll research myself

What’s the rabbi name/shul?

here is their website: https://cjmadrid.org/
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on November 06, 2018, 12:01:39 PM
Looking into going to Spain for a weekend in DEC coming from London . what part of Spain should we visit and we are going with 2 kids any help ?
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Post by: Yaalili on November 06, 2018, 12:02:51 PM
Barcelona.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on November 06, 2018, 12:08:08 PM
Barcelona.

Why ? and what is there to do ? r there kosher food ?
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Post by: Yehoshua on November 06, 2018, 01:03:14 PM
Why ? and what is there to do ? r there kosher food ?
There's a lot to do and kosher food.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 06, 2018, 01:50:50 PM
For a simple weekend, I would vote BCN too. Possible to even have a Minyan.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on November 06, 2018, 02:02:19 PM
For a simple weekend, I would vote BCN too. Possible to even have a Minyan.

and stay where and what to do ? is there kosher food?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on November 06, 2018, 02:13:25 PM
is there kosher food?

There's a lot to do and kosher food.

Read the wiki and trip reports. There is so much out there.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on November 06, 2018, 02:13:37 PM
and stay where and what to do ? is there kosher food?
Did you do any research?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 06, 2018, 02:17:00 PM
and stay where and what to do ? is there kosher food?
My TR is in the wiki. If you decide to stay at a Marriott/SPG property, I'd be happy to book you if you aren't Plat.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on November 08, 2018, 07:22:52 AM
LEVEL this week filed operational schedule for planned new Trans-Atlantic service from Barcelona, scheduled in June and July 2019. Planned service as follows.

Barcelona – New York JFK eff 27JUL19 3 weekly
IB2627 BCN1555 – 1845JFK 332 146
IB2628 JFK2045 – 1030+1BCN 332 146
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 11, 2018, 07:08:41 PM
Best place to stay in Barcelona? 2 families with 4 and 5 kids respectively. Over shabbos. Walking distance to a shul. Indoor pool required.
Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 11, 2018, 10:24:15 PM
Best place to stay in Barcelona? 2 families with 4 and 5 kids respectively. Over shabbos. Walking distance to a shul. Indoor pool required.
Thanks
Airbnb was great, no indoor pool though.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 12, 2018, 09:24:57 AM
Is there an eruv in Barcelona?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 12, 2018, 09:25:48 AM
I very highly doubt it, but I have no idea
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on December 12, 2018, 10:29:28 AM
FTR the vegetable Paella and lamb shoulder are MUST tries at Maccabi.

You haven't really done Spain without having some Paella.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 12, 2018, 10:51:30 AM
Best place to stay in Barcelona? 2 families with 4 and 5 kids respectively. Over shabbos. Walking distance to a shul. Indoor pool required.
Thanks
From my understanding, this is the only Shul. They barely had a Minyan during the week. Not sure what Shabbos is like.

Sinagoga de la Comunitat Israelita de Barcelona
Carrer de l'Avenir, 24

Should help you to see if there are any hotels nearby.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 12, 2018, 05:03:17 PM
FTR the vegetable Paella and lamb shoulder are MUST tries at Maccabi.

You haven't really done Spain without having some Paella.
Shaq Shuq is also noteworthy
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Happyguy on December 23, 2018, 03:50:15 PM
I have got a 9 hr stopover in Barcelona in mid-February. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 23, 2018, 03:52:11 PM
I have got a 9 hr stopover in Barcelona in mid-February. Any ideas?
Ghetto, Shaq Shuq, and the market.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: lobo3k on January 08, 2019, 12:37:52 PM
Anyone have any ideas for a quick 6.5 hour stop over in Madrid?
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Post by: Yehoshua on January 08, 2019, 12:41:30 PM
Anyone have any ideas for a quick 6.5 hour stop over in Madrid?
See the Palace.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 08, 2019, 02:10:37 PM
See the Palace.
+1
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on January 08, 2019, 02:38:55 PM
Anyone have any ideas for a quick 6.5 hour stop over in Madrid?
The Prado museum is amazing if you appreciate art. It’s about a half hour walk from the Palace to the Prado through the heart of the City, passing famous square where auto de fe were held.
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Post by: lobo3k on January 08, 2019, 03:21:33 PM
See the Palace.
How far is it from the airport?
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Post by: Yehoshua on January 08, 2019, 03:41:40 PM
How far is it from the airport?
GIYF
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Happyguy on February 14, 2019, 08:02:27 AM
Any info about which hechsherim are reliable in Barcelona?
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Post by: Yehoshua on February 14, 2019, 09:14:01 AM
Any info about which hechsherim are reliable in Barcelona?
For what? Maccabi restaurant is under a good hashgacha.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on February 17, 2019, 01:29:35 AM
thinking about going for shabbos thankgiving weekend, and seems here most people prefer barcelona. any reason to try to go to madrid instead (considering shabbos options)?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: myi on February 22, 2019, 04:13:38 AM
Las Palmas Gran Canaria, Spain

 Cant find any reports or info about this island on ddf?
is there any that im not seeing?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: bigG on March 24, 2019, 04:52:16 PM
Hi, does anyone have info on kosher in malaga? i see one place that only operates in the summer..and then there is delikosher...anyone have more info on it? whats the hecsher? can you sit down for dinner or is only a deli counter?

tia
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 24, 2019, 09:38:15 PM
Hi, does anyone have info on kosher in malaga? i see one place that only operates in the summer..and then there is delikosher...anyone have more info on it? whats the hecsher? can you sit down for dinner or is only a deli counter?

tia
I don't believe there's any year - round kosher establishments in Malaga.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on March 25, 2019, 07:43:39 AM
Hi, does anyone have info on kosher in malaga? i see one place that only operates in the summer..and then there is delikosher...anyone have more info on it? whats the hecsher? can you sit down for dinner or is only a deli counter?

tia

I think there are kosher options in Malaga although haven't been. There is Kash Kash in Torremolinos which is all year round and not too far away. Was there a few years back.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on March 26, 2019, 06:11:02 AM
Have a 11 hour layover in Madrid this summer.
What would You recommend DW and I see (stopover on the way to JTR for a honeymoon)
Can you rank  them please (palace, Prado etc) how much is possible within our timeframe? Don't know the layout of the land/distances between each location.
TIA
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 26, 2019, 08:20:47 AM
Palace is decent if you enjoy that.

Nothing else worth seeing in Madrid, I would head to Toledo which is beautiful.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 26, 2019, 09:09:21 AM
I enjoyed the palace (didn't care much for the armory building next door), and Retiro Park. I don't recommend going to Toledo without a guide. Seem my TR in the wiki.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on March 26, 2019, 09:14:24 AM
I enjoyed the palace (didn't care much for the armory building next door), and Retiro Park. I don't recommend going to Toledo without a guide. Seem my TR in the wiki.
Loved Retiro Park as well. The boats were really relaxing and fun. Something you can do anywhere I suppose though.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on March 26, 2019, 09:54:15 AM
Palace is decent if you enjoy that.

Nothing else worth seeing in Madrid, I would head to Toledo which is beautiful.

How far is Toledo from Madrid?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: gavinbaker on March 27, 2019, 08:43:03 AM
Hi guys! Is there anyone familiar with https://www.travelon.world/excursions-tenerife

Going to Canary Islands with fam, 3 kids.:) 7 months from today! Any spots you'd like to recomm? Appreciate any help.:)
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on April 23, 2019, 07:21:38 AM
Anyone know what the current kosher options are in Barcelona (besides Maccabi)? Is Shaq Shuq still open and the felafel place?

I'm there overnight next Wednesday.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: shaulyaakov on April 23, 2019, 10:27:00 AM
Recommendations for a 2-3 day trip with a toddler? Planning to do NYC-BCN-LON-NYC and spend roughly Monday PM-Thurs early AM in BCN, and then Thursday PM-Tuesday AM in London.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 24, 2019, 12:43:29 PM
Recommendations for a 2-3 day trip with a toddler? Planning to do NYC-BCN-LON-NYC and spend roughly Monday PM-Thurs early AM in BCN, and then Thursday PM-Tuesday AM in London.
Can do BCN in 1-2 days, then maybe hop over to MAD for a day. I liked Madrid better, but BCN has the Kosher food, which is huge.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: shaulyaakov on April 24, 2019, 01:11:15 PM
Can do BCN in 1-2 days, then maybe hop over to MAD for a day. I liked Madrid better, but BCN has the Kosher food, which is huge.
Going to London afterwards so not really interested in cramming 2 cities.

Plan is to land Monday afternoon, BCN through Wed night (2 full days on ground, maybe go to beach for one of them), and then fly Thurs morning - Tuesday in London.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on May 03, 2019, 05:56:39 AM
Was in BCN for less than 24 hours this week.

Lunch at Shaq Shuq which I was a bit disappointed with. Dinner at Ilan's Burger which was excellent.#

Unfortunately the shul in the Call was closed due to Labour Day.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on May 14, 2019, 10:46:22 AM
Any recommendations for a hotel using points within walking distance to a shul in Barcelona on Shabbos?  I would prefer using Bonvoy points.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 14, 2019, 01:42:04 PM
Any recommendations for a hotel using points within walking distance to a shul in Barcelona on Shabbos?  I would prefer using Bonvoy points.
There's only 1 active Shul - Comunidad Israelita de Barcelona and it barely had a Minyan during the week. I'd first check that they have a Minyan on Shabbos before planning my stay around it.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on May 14, 2019, 03:26:59 PM
There's only 1 active Shul - Comunidad Israelita de Barcelona and it barely had a Minyan during the week. I'd first check that they have a Minyan on Shabbos before planning my stay around it.
Any Chabad with a minyan during the week or Shabbos in Barcelona?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 14, 2019, 03:31:05 PM
Any Chabad with a minyan during the week or Shabbos in Barcelona?
Not that I could find. In 2014 there was 1 Chabad guy who was the Mashgiach at Maccabi and I believe there was a separate Chabad Rav that provided the Hechsher there, but I couldn't find a Chabad Minyan.

Was in BCN for less than 24 hours this week.

Lunch at Shaq Shuq which I was a bit disappointed with. Dinner at Ilan's Burger which was excellent.#

Unfortunately the shul in the Call was closed due to Labour Day.
Didn't go to Maccabi?? Haven't heard of Ilan's - glad to hear there are new options.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Minyan on May 14, 2019, 04:18:45 PM
There's only 1 active Shul - Comunidad Israelita de Barcelona and it barely had a Minyan during the week. I'd first check that they have a Minyan on Shabbos before planning my stay around it.
Their email address does not work
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on May 17, 2019, 07:43:06 AM
There's only 1 active Shul - Comunidad Israelita de Barcelona and it barely had a Minyan during the week. I'd first check that they have a Minyan on Shabbos before planning my stay around it.
This may be helpful
https://chabadbarcelona.org/en/shabat/
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: chevron on May 18, 2019, 11:38:23 PM
Ilans burger is great!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 22, 2019, 10:32:54 AM
Anyone have a guide for Madrid that they can recommend?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on May 23, 2019, 10:20:33 AM

Didn't go to Maccabi?? Haven't heard of Ilan's - glad to hear there are new options.


No - I was there on my own for a big football (soccer!) match so wanted something relatively quick and cheap.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Jo 08701 on May 24, 2019, 11:00:47 AM
I visited Toledo this week,  the Shul is closed on Mondays.
Can anyone update the Wiki,  it says it's closed on Tuesday. I went Monday for nothing.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Jo 08701 on May 24, 2019, 11:06:42 AM
I met a lady who works in the shul outside, and I showed her the thread on DDF that it says closed on Tuesday?.
She explained to me that Monday is a day when all museums are closed in Spain. It's against the law to be open.
She didn't let me in even for a second to get a peek. She said she can lose her job.
Will write a TR about my short visit in Spain & Jordan.
But first I felt a need to update this info ASAP.  I know a lot of people might travel through Spain in the coming days,  coming home from Israel.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 24, 2019, 02:33:30 PM
I visited Toledo this week,  the Shul is closed on Mondays.
Can anyone update the Wiki,  it says it's closed on Tuesday. I went Monday for nothing.
Sorry for the misinformation in the wiki. If you read my TR, you'll see I was there on a Monday: "We knew that we were going on a Monday and therefore the El Transito Shul/Museum would be closed, but we planned on visiting Toledo anyway." I must have mistyped when entering the info into the wiki. Also, it said "Tuesdays?" with a question mark, so I'm not totally to blame! :P
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Jo 08701 on May 26, 2019, 12:25:01 AM
I am not blaming you at all. I wasn't planing a major trip therefore I wasn't checking 100 percent before. Just had a long stopover figured will give a peek in DDF and take it from there.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ejb123 on May 30, 2019, 09:59:57 AM
Read the wiki and trip reports. There is so much out there.

Going Tuesday - Sunday and trying to plan out my itinerary. Been reading the posts and reviewed the wiki. A few questions for those who have been to Barcelona recently:

-Do the kosher restaurants offer any shabbos take out options?
-Any suggestions for shabbos afternoon walking/exploring? We are staying in the marina area.
-Any take any good day trips to Girona? Do you need a guided tour or can you rent a car and drive?
-Is it possible to add a stop along the coast with the Girona tour?

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: kopite1 on May 30, 2019, 11:15:40 AM
Going Tuesday - Sunday and trying to plan out my itinerary. Been reading the posts and reviewed the wiki. A few questions for those who have been to Barcelona recently:

-Do the kosher restaurants offer any shabbos take out options?
-Any suggestions for shabbos afternoon walking/exploring? We are staying in the marina area.
-Any take any good day trips to Girona? Do you need a guided tour or can you rent a car and drive?
-Is it possible to add a stop along the coast with the Girona tour?

Thank you in advance.

Can only help with your first question as was recently in Barca albeit only for 24 hours and not on Shabbos, but I had lunch in Shaq Shuq and 99.9% sure it said in there that they did Shabbos meals. I'm not sure if that means take-out or pre-paid eat in however.

I had dinner in Ilan's but don't recall any mention of Shabbos meals
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: saw50st8 on June 26, 2019, 04:30:51 PM
Has anyone stayed in Madrid and done day trips? We are considering a trip arriving Monday night and leaving Sunday morning but with 4 kids and 4 adults, moving around seems difficult.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: xbetar on June 28, 2019, 04:32:49 PM
Any recommendations for a hotel using points within walking distance to a shul in Barcelona on Shabbos?  I would prefer using Bonvoy points.

AC Hotel Diagonal L´Illa
Avinguda Diagonal 555, Barcelona  08029 Spain
which is 7-9 minutes walk to Chabad
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Chabad+Barcelona,+Carrer+del+Montnegre,+Barcelona,+Spain/Avinguda+Diagonal,+555,+08029+Barcelona,+Spain/@41.3887105,2.135419,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x12a49864f2b63815:0xe7dc191934b4c5d6!2m2!1d2.1383157!2d41.3869117!1m5!1m1!1s0x12a4987ac8e6aa51:0xdea22ea63d900d57!2m2!1d2.1357419!2d41.3898495
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Danlover111 on July 28, 2019, 04:01:41 AM
going to Barcelona this week whats the nicest spg hotel?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ldef2001 on August 21, 2019, 05:24:48 PM
Hi

Can anyone make a recommendation for a tour guide for Jewish Madrid and Toledo.  I have identified two Asher Bentolila and Shlomo Hanoka and the information about them is odd because they seem to be operating off of the same website.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on August 22, 2019, 09:26:31 AM
Hi

Can anyone make a recommendation for a tour guide for Jewish Madrid and Toledo.  I have identified two Asher Bentolila and Shlomo Hanoka and the information about them is odd because they seem to be operating off of the same website.

Thank you!
We used Shlomo Hanoka and he was excellent.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: jonesy on August 28, 2019, 01:55:00 AM
We did a tour with Asher Bentolila (Segovia, not Toledo or Madrid) and liked him a lot
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ldef2001 on September 03, 2019, 11:36:51 AM
Thank you very much.  On a separate matter, has anyone had issues bringing in packaged Kosher food (chess, cold cuts) to Spain?

Thanks
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: mutchkie1 on November 24, 2019, 07:45:52 PM
Anyone know of any Kosher restaurants in Madrid?
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: YY on November 28, 2019, 02:14:42 AM
anyone have contact information or web site for Asher Bentolila or Shlomo Hanoka ?
I have seen many reviews but no contact info
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: ukinny on November 29, 2019, 07:35:02 AM
Asher Bentolila : https://jewishsegovia.com/
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Blazer on December 22, 2019, 09:37:10 AM
I will be in Madrid 1/15 from 9:55AM - 5:00 PM. Anyone know the shuls and minyanim, if I can get a Mincha/Maariv.
Also how easy is it to get ot the shul train/ any other suggestions.
Also anything really worth it to check out in Madrid over these hours.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 22, 2019, 10:45:02 AM
I will be in Madrid 1/15 from 9:55AM - 5:00 PM. Anyone know the shuls and minyanim, if I can get a Mincha/Maariv.
Also how easy is it to get ot the shul train/ any other suggestions.
Also anything really worth it to check out in Madrid over these hours.
There may be a mincha just before shkia, but no mincha gedola. You can explore the city, whatever sights you want, and just daven on your own. Also, if you have to be on a flight at 5:00pm, there's no way you'll be able to daven with a minyan. You need to specify if the times above are arrival and departure times or times you'll have in the city.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: cdlaz on December 22, 2019, 02:25:13 PM
Anyone know of any Kosher restaurants in Madrid?
Shipudey - enjoyed the food
La Esculida - oy vey zmir
New Kosher Pizza place, haven't been yet
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Blazer on December 22, 2019, 09:38:24 PM
There may be a mincha just before shkia, but no mincha gedola. You can explore the city, whatever sights you want, and just daven on your own. Also, if you have to be on a flight at 5:00pm, there's no way you'll be able to daven with a minyan. You need to specify if the times above are arrival and departure times or times you'll have in the city.

I will be in Madrid for 7 hours.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 22, 2019, 10:05:35 PM
I will be in Madrid for 7 hours.
So do retiro park, walk to the Palace and see it, and go back to the airport. Prefect quick trip. See my TR for exactly what I did.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: Yuey on December 24, 2019, 03:25:17 AM
I will be in Madrid 1/15 from 9:55AM - 5:00 PM. Anyone know the shuls and minyanim, if I can get a Mincha/Maariv.
Also how easy is it to get ot the shul train/ any other suggestions.
Also anything really worth it to check out in Madrid over these hours.

I would recommend the double decker bus. You can see everything in under 7 hours and most probably also use that to get to the Shuls. In my opinion the best thing to see is the Palace (and a bull fight).
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: anon1m0us on December 24, 2019, 08:34:00 AM
Hi,
My wife and daughter are doing a trip in May. What is a safe and enjoyable neighborhood for them to book a hotel?

How do i find more info on Bull fighting?

And any must see attractions? I read in this thread that one old shul is just an empty room. She has 3 days, and yes, one day will be with a guide( as it is expensive) so i am looking for other things for her to do that she can do on her own.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 25, 2019, 04:09:28 PM

How do i find more info on Bull fighting?
I don't think they will enjoy it. It's extremely gory.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on December 29, 2019, 09:28:21 AM
Hi,
My wife and daughter are doing a trip in May. What is a safe and enjoyable neighborhood for them to book a hotel?

How do i find more info on Bull fighting?

And any must see attractions? I read in this thread that one old shul is just an empty room. She has 3 days, and yes, one day will be with a guide( as it is expensive) so i am looking for other things for her to do that she can do on her own.

Which City? If Barcelona, which I assume from your reference to the old Shul, I recommend Gaudi's colorful Parc Guell as well as La Pedera, a/k/a Casa Mila. The latter was very interesting, I recommend you take the audio tour which starts with an elevator ride to the roof, one of the main attractions, and then walks you down. We enjoyed walking around Barcelona, not so much La Rambla, which is a bit too Times Square touristy, but rather the Passieg de Garcia and nearby streets. We stayed at the Le Meridien right off La Rambla, which was very nice, and we ate at the nearby Restaurant Maccabi, an excellent restaurant with great food, and also took out from Shaq Shuq a few blocks away.         
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: anon1m0us on December 29, 2019, 10:36:28 AM
She is staying in Madrid.....but everything depends on a safe neighborhood.

If Barcelona is safer, she will stay there. She wants to be able to walk the streets without worry, go for kosher food and be able to do a walking tour.
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: DTM on December 29, 2019, 12:21:28 PM
In Madrid, there is Pinati Restaurant, and another nearby, a few blocks from each other and close to the heavily guarded shul, where you will need a passport to enter. The Prado Museum is amazing if you appreciate art. Shlomo Hanoka gave us a great day tour from Madrid to Toledo, highlighting the Jewish history in a very meaningful way.

Safety in any City may be a matter of common sense, there are good and bad neighborhoods everywhere, and obviously safer times of day to walk around. Nowadays, unfortunately, it would be safer not to flaunt Jewish identity in unfamiliar areas. Neither City is Boro Park or Yerushalyim. 
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: aarony on January 20, 2020, 02:14:31 PM
i am flying to israel next week with a 7 hour stop in madrid.   have aa platinum so i assume that is oneworld sapphire.  i also have priority pass.  any recommendations on the best lounge to access during our stopover? any kosher snacks available?

thanks!
Title: Re: Spain Master Thread
Post by: jonesy on January 20, 2020, 09:00:32 PM
Check out: https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10590.735
MAD priority pass lounges usually have sandwiches and deserts upon request.