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Title: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on April 16, 2018, 06:46:42 PM
I thought this thread was warranted as I did not find a good place to discuss this other than the thread of DDMS discussion, but i didnt want to overwhelm that thread. If not, please feel free to move to a more appropriate thread.

Anyone know if Sheraton lounge access for SPG Business CC will end Aug 1, or will continue till the end of the annual fee?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 16, 2018, 06:49:12 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=91977.0 http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=66610.0
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on April 16, 2018, 06:55:09 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=91977.0 http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=66610.0

Can all those be combined into one master thread?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CS1 on April 16, 2018, 08:52:34 PM
Can all those be combined into one master thread?

It would be good to have this new one as the master thread -- starting today, April 16 is when all the facts are official. Before that is just rumors and speculation.

The FACTS: https://members.marriott.com/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yammer on April 16, 2018, 09:06:51 PM


It would be good to have this new one as the master thread -- starting today, April 16 is when all the facts are official. Before that is just rumors and speculation.

+1
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 16, 2018, 09:09:21 PM
It would be good to have this new one as the master thread -- starting today, April 16 is when all the facts are official. Before that is just rumors and speculation.

The FACTS: https://members.marriott.com/
Agreed. Who's making the Wiki? :)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 16, 2018, 11:51:08 PM
I wish they'd make the points worth 2 Marriott/ 2/3 of an SPG.
I for my own of the bat calculations I like when points are in the field of 1 cent pp
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 16, 2018, 11:54:11 PM
I wish they'd make the points worth 2 Marriott/ 2/3 of an SPG.
I for my own of the bat calculations I like when points are in the field of 1 cent pp

You're alone there.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yitzgar on April 16, 2018, 11:57:35 PM
I wish they'd make the points worth 2 Marriott/ 2/3 of an SPG.
I for my own of the bat calculations I like when points are in the field of 1 cent pp
Wouldn't you rather get the most value for your point?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 17, 2018, 12:04:38 AM


Wouldn't you rather get the most value for your point?



You're alone there.

I don't want the earning rate to change. Just the currency. Instead of earning 2 Marriott for x it should be 1 point (with the value of 2)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 12:09:02 AM
I don't want the earning rate to change. Just the currency. Instead of earning 2 Marriott for x it should be 1 point (with the value of 2)
People can't understand it as it is. Let's add fractions so that it requires a PHD.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 17, 2018, 12:10:39 AM
People can't understand it as it is. Let's add fractions so that it requires a PHD.
Lol. I take it back. I'll keep my thoughts to myself
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mordechain on April 17, 2018, 12:20:05 AM
So far they've left the Canadian SPG amex alone, earning 1 point per Canadian dollar.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 12:21:42 AM
So far they've left the Canadian SPG amex alone, earning 1 point per Canadian dollar.

They just haven't gotten around to fixing it.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mordechain on April 17, 2018, 12:22:36 AM
Press release said "changes to cobranded credit cards coming at a later date"
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on April 17, 2018, 12:30:09 AM
They just haven't gotten around to fixing it.
I still don't see how Amex could afford to not give 3 points per dollar to have a significant advantage over Chase. They're losing on the high end with the CSR ($300 "no questions asked" travel credit and easy redemptions at 1.5).
 
Now, not only don't they have an exclusive on the best co branded card, it's not even a compelling option to spend on anymore, so they lose big time on their (assumed) main source of profit, the interchange fees.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 12:33:27 AM
I still don't see how Amex could afford to not give 3 points per dollar to have a significant advantage over Chase. They're losing on the high end with the CSR ($300 "no questions asked" travel credit and easy redemptions at 1.5).
 
Now, not only don't they have an exclusive on the best co branded card, it's not even a compelling option to spend on anymore, so they lose big time on their (assumed) main source of profit, the interchange fees.
That's what I wrote in several DDMS posts. Crazy.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 17, 2018, 12:34:55 AM
What was Amex paying pp? Maybe they are trying to get people to grab an MR card now, and we'll see some improvements there
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mgarfin on April 17, 2018, 12:44:33 AM
What status will Amex plat get you?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 12:45:15 AM
What status will Amex plat get you?
Gold.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 12:45:37 AM


Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 17, 2018, 12:46:35 AM
Trying to get Amex' attention :)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ah giten on April 17, 2018, 01:08:14 AM
Will @Dan now leak out all leaps and bounds in the SPG program that's about to expire soon?... ;)
PMs welcome
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 01:15:00 AM
Will @Dan now leak out all leaps and bounds in the SPG program that's about to expire soon?... ;)
PMs welcome
The best ones have been dead for years.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 17, 2018, 02:23:09 AM
What's really ridiculous is that Amex isn't even matching the earning rate on airfare that the Ritz has, 5x vs 3 isn't even close.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 09:27:38 AM
Ritz card changes are TBD
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Theg on April 17, 2018, 09:29:38 AM
some insane redemptions upcoming! St Regis Maldives for example for about 16k spg a night if u stay 5 nights etc
https://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2018/04/17/marriott-points-redemption-opportunities-coming-soon/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on April 17, 2018, 09:38:20 AM
some insane redemptions upcoming! St Regis Maldives for example for about 16k spg a night if u stay 5 nights etc
https://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2018/04/17/marriott-points-redemption-opportunities-coming-soon/
no reason to publicize this. I have a feeling they will fix the award chart before it comes out. These prices are too good to be true.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on April 17, 2018, 09:42:10 AM


Anyone know if Sheraton lounge access for SPG Business CC will end Aug 1, or will continue till the end of the annual fee?

@Dan any ideas about this?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: leeboy on April 17, 2018, 09:43:48 AM
What no one is taking about is what will happen to all the existing certificates that are based off of the old categories? Will we be able to book cat 1-5 hotels even though there will be more hotels and less categories? If that is the case the value of the certs would shoot up. Some people were saying you may need to use points to redeem the certs however the certs are actually paper certificates (which they sometimes mail you) outlining exactly what you can do with them. I doubt they would change the terms so drastically... Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on April 17, 2018, 09:45:19 AM
What no one is taking about is what will happen to all the existing certificates that are based off of the old categories? Will we be able to book cat 1-5 hotels even though there will be more hotels and less categories? If that is the case the value of the certs would shoot up. Some people were saying you may need to use points to redeem the certs however the certs are actually paper certificates (which they sometimes mail you) outlining exactly what you can do with them. I doubt they would change the terms so drastically... Any thoughts?
the reason no one is talking about is is because they didn't make a decision yet
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 09:49:54 AM
some insane redemptions upcoming! St Regis Maldives for example for about 16k spg a night if u stay 5 nights etc
https://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2018/04/17/marriott-points-redemption-opportunities-coming-soon/
Sensationalist drivel IMHO.
My response is the same as it was here to JJ about another wrong OMAAT post.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23055.msg1918435#msg1918435
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on April 17, 2018, 09:54:15 AM
Love the shot you took at Lucky and TPG on Twitter!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on April 17, 2018, 09:55:53 AM
Love the shot you took at Lucky and TPG on Twitter!

Screenshot?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on April 17, 2018, 10:02:18 AM
It is posted upthread
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on April 17, 2018, 10:16:40 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/AFWackey/status/986037937497346048
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 11:33:58 AM
some insane redemptions upcoming! St Regis Maldives for example for about 16k spg a night if u stay 5 nights etc
https://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2018/04/17/marriott-points-redemption-opportunities-coming-soon/
It's #FakeNews
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/starwood/rack-starpoints-still-can-will-6-months-amazing-starwood-hotel-bargains/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CS1 on April 17, 2018, 11:42:17 AM
It's #FakeNews
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/starwood/rack-starpoints-still-can-will-6-months-amazing-starwood-hotel-bargains/

They may also change categories for some hotels before August 1. Did they increase ('shabbos-friendly') Residence Inn Surfside, already?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: farmbochur on April 17, 2018, 11:44:03 AM
Trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on an SPG personal card. Last held the card in Sep 2013 and Amex chat rep didn't pull it up when I asked for a list of cards that I've previously held.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shwarmabob on April 17, 2018, 12:40:16 PM
Adios SPG business card. My AF was coming up anyway.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 12:41:30 PM
Adios SPG business card. My AF was coming up anyway.
Not worth keeping for the 35K annual night?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shapsam on April 17, 2018, 12:46:44 PM
Not worth keeping for the 35K annual night?
What are some sample 35k hotels?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on April 17, 2018, 12:47:15 PM
What no one is taking about is what will happen to all the existing certificates that are based off of the old categories? Will we be able to book cat 1-5 hotels even though there will be more hotels and less categories? If that is the case the value of the certs would shoot up. Some people were saying you may need to use points to redeem the certs however the certs are actually paper certificates (which they sometimes mail you) outlining exactly what you can do with them. I doubt they would change the terms so drastically... Any thoughts?
Frequent Miler had a post on this. See the "answers from the VP" paragraph
https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/2018/04/16/my-take-on-marriotts-big-announcement/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 12:48:32 PM
Frequent Miler had a post on this. See the "answers from the VP" paragraph
https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/2018/04/16/my-take-on-marriotts-big-announcement/
Not sure how much stock to put into that, considering that several answers there are wrong.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 12:48:53 PM
What are some sample 35k hotels?
TBD, but that includes 5 of the 7 categories that there will be in August.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on April 17, 2018, 01:18:01 PM
Not sure how much stock to put into that, considering that several answers there are wrong.
Well he was put on the spot it seems... Still food for thought.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: roadbird on April 17, 2018, 02:24:40 PM
Someone help me figure out where my math is wrong. If I want to try and take advantage of the Flight + Nights Marriott package and want the option of a category 9 property that would cost me 390kMR or 130kspg now. I would need 96k SPG to get 120k airlines miles at the 1.25 rate (though I know I would have to actually transfer 100k for 125k miles), which means that I would be paying 34k SPG for a 7 night certificate in a category 9 hotel. 34k spg translates to 102k Marriott, meaning I would be paying 102k Marriott for 7 nights in a category 9 hotel or 17k Marriott points per night w/ 6th night free. My math is off here, right? That seems way too low.

I am also curious how the certs will shake out come August. Will category 9 certs be good for category 7's? Will it move to category 6 since that is where 45k points will sit in 2019? In the August-Dec 2018 span, would I be shooting myself in the foot for having points locked in a cat 6 hotel reso when 7's could be booked for 60k/night?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: nescafe on April 17, 2018, 03:23:26 PM
So is it worth getting the SPG card now & use it for the next few months?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 17, 2018, 03:26:15 PM
Trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on an SPG personal card. Last held the card in Sep 2013 and Amex chat rep didn't pull it up when I asked for a list of cards that I've previously held.
I would, you should be able to pull up 30k with incognito.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 17, 2018, 03:27:25 PM
So is it worth getting the SPG card now & use it for the next few months?
If you've never had it, definitely get it now, the SUB is rumored to change to a $200 statement credit within the next two weeks.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: nescafe on April 17, 2018, 03:28:38 PM
I would, you should be able to pull up 30k with incognito.
Wasn't working yestersay. Any way to get it to work?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 17, 2018, 03:31:19 PM
Wasn't working yestersay. Any way to get it to work?
I just pulled it up yesterday, didn't work in my phone but worked on my laptop. Try googleing it, I think USA credit card guides had the link I used.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: nescafe on April 17, 2018, 03:36:01 PM
I just pulled it up yesterday, didn't work in my phone but worked on my laptop. Try googleing it, I think USA credit card guides had the link I used.
Only getting 25k
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 17, 2018, 03:58:37 PM
Only getting 25k
🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Hjay on April 17, 2018, 04:10:43 PM
If I have SPG gold & therefore Marriott Gold now, what status will I have come August?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 04:19:09 PM
If I have SPG gold & therefore Marriott Gold now, what status will I have come August?
Gold.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on April 17, 2018, 04:50:35 PM
Gold.
Aren't spg gold becoming plats in Aug? Did I miss something?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on April 17, 2018, 05:05:31 PM
Aren't spg gold becoming plats in Aug? Did I miss something?
#FAKENEWS
Only those who earned gold by staying 50 nights will become PLAT
Title: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 17, 2018, 05:07:31 PM
#FAKENEWS
Only those who earned gold by staying 50 nights will become PLAT
And only untill the beginning of 2019.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: nescafe on April 17, 2018, 05:07:49 PM
Only getting 25k
Was successful with 30k & instant approval
Thanks @mmgfarb for your help
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 17, 2018, 05:08:19 PM
Was successful with 30k & instant approval
Thanks @mmgfarb for your help
I accept commission of all sorts
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on April 17, 2018, 05:10:22 PM
And only untill the beginning of 2019.
right unless they had another 50 nights in 2018 which would earn them plat for the following year
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: nescafe on April 17, 2018, 05:17:04 PM
I accept commission of all sorts
Gonna try same thing now for DW
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: nescafe on April 17, 2018, 05:19:26 PM
Gonna try same thing now for DW
Or, I can refer her with the 25k offer, & get the additional 5k as a referral bonus
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 17, 2018, 05:21:46 PM
Or, I can refer her with the 25k offer, & get the additional 5k as a referral bonus
Isn't it 7.5k? You'd come out ahead like that.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 17, 2018, 05:23:02 PM
Or, I can refer her with the 25k offer, & get the additional 5k as a referral bonus
I just got approved today and can't pull up the referral, does yours come up?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 17, 2018, 05:23:16 PM
Isn't it 7.5k? You'd come out ahead like that.
Should be.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 17, 2018, 05:23:46 PM
Gonna try same thing now for DW
That doesn't exactly give me any commission
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 17, 2018, 05:24:23 PM
Never got a SPG business. Should I go for it? (I will also need a week or so, as I'm in middle of spend on another card, and have a high balance.)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on April 17, 2018, 05:46:20 PM
#FAKENEWS
Only those who earned gold by staying 50 nights will become PLAT
And only untill the beginning of 2019.
Thanks. Nothing like being mislead by other bloggers.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yitzgar on April 17, 2018, 06:24:25 PM
Never got a SPG business. Should I go for it? (I will also need a week or so, as I'm in middle of spend on another card, and have a high balance.)
How much do you trust DOC?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on April 17, 2018, 06:29:49 PM
How much do you trust DOC?
+1 especially with reports that the Canadian card already changed over.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Hjay on April 17, 2018, 06:45:41 PM
@Dan Great post. Cleared up a lot of questions. Thank You!!

https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/starwood/starwood-marriott-merger-faqs-answers-questions-anniversary-nights-status-existing-cards/

Added to the wiki
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 17, 2018, 06:47:58 PM
How much do you trust DOC?
He's watching :)
Not enough that I won't disagree with him that Marriott should often get a 5/24 spot.
But I want to hear others opinions.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: nescafe on April 17, 2018, 07:05:46 PM
I just got approved today and can't pull up the referral, does yours come up?
Can't seem to find it either in the app. I'll check soon on the computer
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: nescafe on April 17, 2018, 07:06:50 PM
That doesn't exactly give me any commission
Was just keeping you up to date 😉
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yitzgar on April 17, 2018, 07:30:23 PM
He's watching :)
Not enough that I won't disagree with him that Marriott should often get a 5/24 spot.
But I want to hear others opinions.
This isn't just a question of opinion. If his source turns out to be correct, it's not even a debate
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mordechain on April 17, 2018, 07:57:46 PM
+1 especially with reports that the Canadian card already changed over.
Canadian card changed over. Sign up bonus is now $250 cdn. They haven't yet changed the earn rate- 1 starpoint per $1cdn. That works out to +/- 1.3 ppd
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 08:11:12 PM
Trying to parse through all of this. Does this sound right?

SPG AMEX Consumer: To be discontinued, grandfathered with option to upgrade to Luxury. $95, 35K night.
SPG AMEX Business: Still available with 4x categories. $95, 35K night.
SPG AMEX Luxury Consumer: New card launch 8/1/18. $450, 50K night.


Chase Marriott: Discontinued, grandfathered with option to upgrade to Premier Plus.
Chase Marriott Premier: To be discontinued, grandfathered with option to upgrade to Premier Plus. $85, 25K night.
Chase Marriott Premier Plus: New card launch 5/3/18. $95, 35K night.
Chase Marriott Business: Discontinued and grandfathered.
Chase Marriott Business Premier:  To be discontinued and grandfathered. $99, 25K night

Chase Ritz: Card to be refreshed and still available.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 17, 2018, 08:20:27 PM
Yep, seems good, worth noting that DoC feels pretty strongly about his source that the SUB's on the Amex cards are being changed to a $200 statement credit within the next two weeks.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 08:24:08 PM
Yep, seems good, worth noting that DoC feels pretty strongly about his source that the SUB's on the Amex cards are being changed to a $200 statement credit within the next two weeks.
Seems too strange to me. Maybe it's a mixup with the CA ones.
Title: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 17, 2018, 08:29:30 PM
Seems too strange to me. Maybe it's a mixup with the CA ones.
Seemed strange to me too but enough for me to get the personal card now, there's no real reason to wait.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: J-town on April 17, 2018, 09:16:06 PM
Isn't it 7.5k? You'd come out ahead like that.

Referral page seems to be dead and all previous links no longer work.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 09:20:26 PM
This look right to y'all?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/starwood/starwood-consumer-amex-multiple-chase-marriott-cards-discontinued-heres-need-know-9-starwood-marriott-cards/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 17, 2018, 09:25:36 PM
Marriott Biz is gone? When will app be available until? Now this puts me in a tough spot between potentially losing the SPG biz 25k and Marriott biz 75k.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on April 17, 2018, 09:30:04 PM
This look right to y'all?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/starwood/starwood-consumer-amex-multiple-chase-marriott-cards-discontinued-heres-need-know-9-starwood-marriott-cards/
Looks good to me. Laid out real nice too.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 09:30:15 PM
Looks good to me. Laid out real nice too.
Thanks
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: nescafe on April 17, 2018, 10:04:14 PM
Anyone successful in finding the referral page?

ETA: According to this page, referrals should be possible
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/customer-service/faq.refer-a-friend.html
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 17, 2018, 10:34:26 PM
This look right to y'all?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/starwood/starwood-consumer-amex-multiple-chase-marriott-cards-discontinued-heres-need-know-9-starwood-marriott-cards/
I would add that you'll only get the 15 night credit once no matter how many cards you hold, you can't get 15 credits per card and add them all up to get status.
Also, I'm a little confused, gold status from Amex plat will not be upgraded to Platinum in August but gold earned from spend on the Ritz card will?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2018, 10:35:02 PM
I would add that you'll only get the 15 night credit once no matter how many cards you hold, you can't get 15 credits per card and add them all up to get status.
Also, I'm a little confused, gold status from Amex plat will not be upgraded to Platinum in August but gold earned from spend on the Ritz card will?
Both in my FAQ post.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 17, 2018, 11:25:00 PM
Both in my FAQ post.
Ah missed that post, still worth adding the limit on night credits to the CC post IMO.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mord1 on April 17, 2018, 11:54:51 PM
Is there any reason to hold onto the ritz card, AF dues in a few days? I have SPG biz and marriot premier currently.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: LNS on April 18, 2018, 12:39:33 AM
any reason to stay with personal and biz spg ?

thinking of only holding on to one... any thoughts?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Hjay on April 18, 2018, 02:05:49 AM
@Dan

https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/starwood/starwood-consumer-amex-multiple-chase-marriott-cards-discontinued-heres-need-know-9-starwood-marriott-cards/

I think you should make clear in this post that plat status earned through spend on the Amex premier is not full plat status, as you will not be getting suite upgrades.

Would 50 nights earned through a mixture of 15 cc nights, cc spend & some stays make you eligible for platinum with suite upgrades?

One more thing I was hoping you’d address in that post was your opinion on which cards are worth applying for now, what’s worth keeping & what you should wait for.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on April 18, 2018, 07:49:00 AM
any reason to stay with personal and biz spg ?

thinking of only holding on to one... any thoughts?
If you will maximize the free nights, keep both
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on April 18, 2018, 01:52:34 PM
@Dan

https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/starwood/starwood-consumer-amex-multiple-chase-marriott-cards-discontinued-heres-need-know-9-starwood-marriott-cards/

I think you should make clear in this post that plat status earned through spend on the Amex premier is not full plat status, as you will not be getting suite upgrades.

Would 50 nights earned through a mixture of 15 cc nights, cc spend & some stays make you eligible for platinum with suite upgrades?

One more thing I was hoping you’d address in that post was your opinion on which cards are worth applying for now, what’s worth keeping & what you should wait for.

I believe that with the 15 night credits you only need to stay 35 nights to attain plat. Could be wrong though.

Gregg @FM posted this:
 "[...] one of the features of the luxury card is Platinum status with $75K spend.  The spend on your consumer card will carry over to the luxury card.  This way you’ll get the equivalent of 3X Marriott points per dollar on that $75K spend and you’ll get Platinum status for the rest of 2018, all of 2019, and through Feb 2020 (most likely)."

Is this an assumption or something that is confirmed?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: helpyouamdme on April 18, 2018, 02:43:14 PM
What's going to be with the Marriott status on United?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 18, 2018, 04:12:12 PM
I believe that with the 15 night credits you only need to stay 35 nights to attain plat. Could be wrong though.

Gregg @FM posted this:
 "[...] one of the features of the luxury card is Platinum status with $75K spend.  The spend on your consumer card will carry over to the luxury card.  This way you’ll get the equivalent of 3X Marriott points per dollar on that $75K spend and you’ll get Platinum status for the rest of 2018, all of 2019, and through Feb 2020 (most likely)."

Is this an assumption or something that is confirmed?
The only way I see that happening is if you end up upgrading your consumer card to the luxury card but even then I doubt it'll actually carry over, that just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 18, 2018, 04:13:32 PM
If you have Marriott gold status now, when in 2019 will your plat status expire? February? Worth spending $10k on the Ritz card now to get plat status for that time frame?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on April 18, 2018, 04:15:22 PM
If you have Marriott gold status now, when in 2019 will your plat status expire? February? Worth spending $10k on the Ritz card now to get plat status for that time frame?

I thought it was confirmed that Gold does not get you platinum status?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 18, 2018, 04:16:04 PM
I thought it was confirmed that Gold does not get you platinum status?
Gold earned through SPG won't, Gold earned through Marriott will.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 18, 2018, 04:16:42 PM
If you have Marriott gold status now, when in 2019 will your plat status expire? February? Worth spending $10k on the Ritz card now to get plat status for that time frame?
I'm imagine Jan or Feb.
Who knows. Lots of things are unclear.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on April 18, 2018, 04:19:21 PM
Gold earned through SPG won't, Gold earned through Marriott will.
Even if you have already matched a while ago?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 18, 2018, 04:19:50 PM
Even if you have already matched a while ago?
I would assume so but who knows really.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 18, 2018, 04:21:20 PM
I would assume so but who knows really.
Marriott has put out contradictory info on this. So the answer is nobody knows.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 18, 2018, 04:22:51 PM
Marriott has put out contradictory info on this. So the answer is nobody knows.
Yep, I guess we'll see what happens in August....
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 18, 2018, 06:49:46 PM
This has some amazing potential. Anyone want to check my math or critique the post?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/marriott/guesstimating-marriott-travel-packages-will-work-august-take-advantage-marriotts-lucrative-milesnights-packages-now/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 18, 2018, 07:46:24 PM
This has some amazing potential. Anyone want to check my math or critique the post?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/marriott/guesstimating-marriott-travel-packages-will-work-august-take-advantage-marriotts-lucrative-milesnights-packages-now/
Chirp, chirp...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on April 18, 2018, 07:48:13 PM
Chirp, chirp...
Looks great. If only I had extra points laying around...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 18, 2018, 07:56:34 PM
This has some amazing potential. Anyone want to check my math or critique the post?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/marriott/guesstimating-marriott-travel-packages-will-work-august-take-advantage-marriotts-lucrative-milesnights-packages-now/
If only this was included.
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/starwood/25-bonus-transferring-starwood-starpoints-american-effective-56-3-bonus/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mord1 on April 18, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
any reason to keep ritz card open with all this?- af due in 2 days, have marriot and spg biz
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 18, 2018, 08:01:28 PM
Chirp, chirp...
Looks pretty good, I would clarify that the Marriott card cert is a category 1-5, not just a category 5, that might not be intuitive to everyone.
The real downside to these packages is the fact that you need to use all the nights in one shot. That's what had held me back this whole time. I'm not sure if this changes anything for me personally but the resale value of the certs should go up after the changes.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 18, 2018, 08:04:19 PM
Looks pretty good, I would clarify that the Marriott card cert is a category 1-5, not just a category 5, that might not be intuitive to everyone.
In which part of the post?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: jes on April 18, 2018, 08:05:28 PM
Looks pretty accurate to me.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 18, 2018, 08:05:31 PM
In which part of the post?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180419/3262a566fcd45b0866a62aca7b033bb9.jpg)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shapsam on April 18, 2018, 08:07:01 PM
This has some amazing potential. Anyone want to check my math or critique the post?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/marriott/guesstimating-marriott-travel-packages-will-work-august-take-advantage-marriotts-lucrative-milesnights-packages-now/
Only makes sense if you were anyway going to use Starpoints for the hotel.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 18, 2018, 08:13:10 PM
Only makes sense if you were anyway going to use Starpoints for the hotel.
Duh?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 18, 2018, 08:14:20 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180419/3262a566fcd45b0866a62aca7b033bb9.jpg)

Thanks, cleared that up.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 18, 2018, 08:15:00 PM
Thanks, cleared that up.
that was the only thing I saw.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shapsam on April 18, 2018, 08:17:42 PM
Duh?
Usually you write that.
Title: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Abey on April 18, 2018, 08:30:08 PM
This has some amazing potential. Anyone want to check my math or critique the post?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/marriott/guesstimating-marriott-travel-packages-will-work-august-take-advantage-marriotts-lucrative-milesnights-packages-now/
Awsome !!
Chances that Marriott will make package redemption at the old categories? (Packages bought until 8/1 will redeem at old value)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: leeboy on April 18, 2018, 09:05:43 PM
This has some amazing potential. Anyone want to check my math or critique the post?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/marriott/guesstimating-marriott-travel-packages-will-work-august-take-advantage-marriotts-lucrative-milesnights-packages-now/
I've been debating this back and forth since they announced the merger. I think you pretty much clarified it as best as anyone can. I am betting that the old certs will go up in value in one way or another. The old certs work by category. Do you think they would be able to cancel the certs and say they are now capped by how much points is needed for the room? Marriott mailed me a few paper certs for the 7 nights (can post it here if you want). Moving forward it'll probably be devalued but what's the worse case scenario if I hold my old certs to use in 5 years from now?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: 12HRS on April 18, 2018, 09:22:10 PM
You have certs that last 5 years?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: leeboy on April 18, 2018, 09:23:21 PM
The travel package certs can be extended for one extra year at a time by calling in.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Billy Bandit on April 18, 2018, 11:01:14 PM
I want to redeem a cert for what is currently a Cat 9 reservation I have (Hotel Park City). Any drawback/benefit to acquiring that cert now (390k Marriott points) but applying it to my reservation after Aug 1?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: helpyouamdme on April 19, 2018, 10:13:47 AM
Anybody knows what's going to be with the partnership between Marriott and United? And having Platinum elite status What status will it get on United?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shapsam on April 19, 2018, 01:04:24 PM
So after 08/01 you'll get a 25% bonus when transferring Marriott to Quantas?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: helpyouamdme on April 19, 2018, 02:34:15 PM
Anybody knows what's going to be with the partnership between Marriott and United? And having Platinum elite status What status will it get on United?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 19, 2018, 02:35:17 PM

Time sensitive I guess?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Jimgotkp on April 19, 2018, 05:00:40 PM
Dan should write a post about how he plans on using his own SPG/Marriott points.

Personally, I'm going to wait until the hotel category list is published before booking anything.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on April 19, 2018, 05:05:06 PM
Anybody knows what's going to be with the partnership between Marriott and United? And having Platinum elite status What status will it get on United?
No one knows for sure but from what I read and dont quote me on it, Marriott plat and up will get UA silver and UA elites will only get gold
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on April 19, 2018, 05:49:07 PM
Lol, so I guess they mass email the bloggers? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180419/4ba3f4e55d091500a489715c7db53ad9.jpg)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 19, 2018, 06:41:36 PM
Lol, so I guess they mass email the bloggers? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180419/4ba3f4e55d091500a489715c7db53ad9.jpg)
PSA: I'm now a blogger.
Please send me inside scoop.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on April 19, 2018, 06:45:34 PM
PSA: I'm now a blogger.
Please send me inside scoop.
You can't just be a blogger, people also have to actually care what about you say ;D  Either way, that thread evolved a bit, apparently Dan was the cause of him receiving the email.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on April 19, 2018, 06:47:01 PM
You can't just be a blogger, people also have to actually care what about you say ;D  Either way, that thread evolved a bit, apparently Dan was the cause of him receiving the email.
New DDF user coming in 5 minutes to back everything I say.
No relationship to me.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CS1 on April 19, 2018, 08:16:52 PM
Dan should write a post about how he plans on using his own SPG/Marriott points.

Personally, I'm going to wait until the hotel category list is published before booking anything.

+1  ....and also post on how to best accumulate a good quantity of SPG points between now and 8/1.   :)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: LNS on April 19, 2018, 09:14:05 PM
anyone booked yet or have anything planned? Im looking for ideas with kids in mind.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: isac on April 22, 2018, 12:56:38 AM
Is SPG Plat status going to change to 75 nights?
Currently only need 25 stays, thats 3x stays needed!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on April 22, 2018, 03:59:33 AM
Is SPG Plat status going to change to 75 nights?
Currently only need 25 stays, thats 3x stays needed!
They're completely getting rid of the ability to qualify with stays.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on April 22, 2018, 06:49:22 AM
Is SPG Plat status going to change to 75 nights?
Currently only need 25 stays, thats 3x stays needed!
you will need 50 nights not 75. If you get to 25 stays before 8/1 you will get plat this year and next
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 22, 2018, 08:47:05 AM
You'll have until 12/31 actually.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on April 22, 2018, 08:57:30 AM
You'll have until 12/31 actually.
even better
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: etech0 on April 22, 2018, 09:49:25 AM
Is there any word on when the new Chase Marriott CCs are coming out?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 22, 2018, 11:23:50 AM
Is there any word on when the new Chase Marriott CCs are coming out?
5/3
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: etech0 on April 22, 2018, 11:36:50 AM
5/3
TY!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 22, 2018, 11:40:43 AM
The better question is which offer will be better.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: etech0 on April 22, 2018, 11:45:42 AM
The better question is which offer will be better.
Do you mean Starwood vs Marriott, or which of the Marriott cards?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 22, 2018, 11:46:23 AM
Do you mean Starwood vs Marriott, or which of the Marriott cards?
Signing up for the current Chase Marriott vs new.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: etech0 on April 22, 2018, 11:47:23 AM
Signing up for the current Chase Marriott vs new.
Ah. Well if I already have the old, so I'm paying an AF each year, would it make sense to cancel it and get the new? For an extra $10/year you get a better free night, and 2ppd on purchases, plus the 100k signup bonus.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 22, 2018, 11:48:24 AM
Ah. Well if I already have the old, so I'm paying an AF each year, would it make sense to cancel it and get the new? For an extra $10/year you get a better free night, and 2ppd on purchases, plus the 100k signup bonus.
I guess that will depend on what the upgrade offer is.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: etech0 on April 22, 2018, 11:48:47 AM
I guess that will depend on what the upgrade offer is.
good point!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 22, 2018, 11:49:27 AM
good point!
Also depends on how you value your 5/24 slots. Upgrade won't eat one up, but also won't get as many points.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: etech0 on April 22, 2018, 11:50:23 AM
Also depends on how you value your 5/24 slots. Upgrade won't eat one up.
Right.

With the 1 free night cert, can you use it for any type of room, or only the cheapest type?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on April 22, 2018, 11:50:43 AM
Right.

With the 1 free night cert, can you use it for any type of room, or only the cheapest type?
Base room.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: etech0 on April 22, 2018, 11:51:14 AM
Base room.
Thx. Is it upgradable to a nicer room?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Hjay on April 23, 2018, 02:07:42 AM
Do we have any idea when the chase Marriott biz will stop being available for signup?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Moshe26 on April 23, 2018, 06:24:10 PM
just wondering in a case when one doesn't really have a redemption in mind but will likely travel within the next year- the best package would be the cat 8 (120K spg)?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: isac on April 24, 2018, 12:08:18 AM
You'll have until 12/31 actually.

where did you see that?
I have 16 stays but wont have 25 by 8/1
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mord1 on April 24, 2018, 05:53:57 PM
please tell me if I am missing something with all this. as much as I should be using SPG card from now till august, there are times when its better to use other cards or =, such as at a restaurant with CSR or =, in that CSR- i get 3 UR which i could transfer to marriott (or anywhere else) or 1 spg which will turn into 3 marriott, am I correct? sorry if this is to basic,
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: farmbochur on April 24, 2018, 05:55:12 PM
please tell me if I am missing something with all this. as much as I should be using SPG card from now till august, there are times when its better to use other cards or =, such as at a restaurant with CSR or =, in that CSR- i get 3 UR which i could transfer to marriott (or anywhere else) or 1 spg which will turn into 3 marriott, am I correct? sorry if this is to basic,
Non bonus spend
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mord1 on April 24, 2018, 05:59:07 PM
Non bonus spend
right. ok, just double checking
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: aygart on April 24, 2018, 06:50:09 PM
please tell me if I am missing something with all this. as much as I should be using SPG card from now till august, there are times when its better to use other cards or =, such as at a restaurant with CSR or =, in that CSR- i get 3 UR which i could transfer to marriott (or anywhere else) or 1 spg which will turn into 3 marriott, am I correct? sorry if this is to basic,
Or CFU with 3x UR offer ->Marriot
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: farmbochur on April 24, 2018, 06:57:31 PM
Or CFU with 3x UR offer ->Marriot
Haven't we established that CFU 3x SUB isn't worthwhile? את"ל that it is, you should hold off on applying till after/closer to 8/1.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: aygart on April 24, 2018, 07:20:42 PM
Haven't we established that CFU 3x SUB isn't worthwhile? את"ל that it is, you should hold off on applying till after/closer to 8/1.
We established that it depends. It is definitely more wroth it than getting the SPG now.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Srsy on April 24, 2018, 10:20:20 PM
I have reservations in the Ritz Hartzelia in September for 50,000 points a night.  I did not switch over my SPG points yet.  Should I hold this reservation or not?  Will it be a good deal or am I better off paying and going elsewhere?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on April 25, 2018, 10:22:55 PM
How is the transfer to QF being improved in Aug?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on April 25, 2018, 10:29:16 PM
20k SPG>60k Marriott>25k Qantas, with 5k (15k Marriott) bonus.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on April 25, 2018, 10:30:40 PM
20k SPG>60k Marriott>25k Qantas, with 5k (15k Marriott) bonus.

Isnt that what it is now?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on April 25, 2018, 10:50:53 PM
Isnt that what it is now?
"23,333 Starpoints transfer into 70K Marriot points, which transfers into 17.5K Qantas points via a regular mileage transfers
90K Starpoints transfer into 270K Marriot points, which transfers into 7 nights at a Marriott hotel and 85K Qantas points via a miles+nights transfer. Those 7 nights can be refunded back into 15K Starpoints, which would mean that 75K Starpoints would turn into 85K Qantas points. You can read all about the nuances of how to maximize that reward in this post."

From DDMS. https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-deals/israel-flights/redeem-qantas-points-el-al-coach-premium-economy-business-without-fuel-surcharges-comparison-matmid-qantas-point-requirements/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Chosidtravel on April 26, 2018, 12:25:50 AM
Hi guys,
What's your experience with transferring marriott to AA +hotel, how long it takes

Are they cool with different names names mariott and AA?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on April 27, 2018, 10:55:58 AM
 Any shot the ritz reserve will be ava on points after the merger?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: leeboy on April 27, 2018, 10:57:31 AM
everyone been talking about using lower category certs for more hotels. what will happen to the higher cat certs like cat 9 or tier 4-5?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: golan on May 07, 2018, 09:54:25 PM
Anyone know comes august if i have 132 night credits with marriott what level platinum that will get me?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on May 09, 2018, 12:06:11 PM
Per lucky anyone matched to Marriott gold from SPG gold will NOT get Marriott plat come 8/1. Only Marriott golds that earned it with nights will become plat.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on May 15, 2018, 06:30:22 AM
did they announce when they would release property categories?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2018, 08:52:30 AM
End of May was the plan.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on May 15, 2018, 08:55:16 AM
End of May was the plan.

Hopefully will be easy to change existing reservations over should the price drop after 8/1
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: rapsjr on May 17, 2018, 03:12:57 PM
On 8/1 will I need my points to be in marriott or SPG to make a reservation using the new chart? (not sure which property yet). Trying to get it all set up...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on May 17, 2018, 04:59:22 PM
On 8/1 will I need my points to be in marriott or SPG to make a reservation using the new chart? (not sure which property yet). Trying to get it all set up...
no it will happen automatically
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on May 27, 2018, 11:27:47 PM
https://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2018/05/27/book-marriott-hotel-air-package-now/

Does this have any truth to it? He’s expecting the vouchers to apply to the new categories in Aug (current cat 1-5 to apppy to cat 1-5 in aug)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: isac on June 03, 2018, 06:45:09 PM
If I have 25 spg stays in 2018, will I get Marriott Plat in 2019? Or need 25 stays by August 2018?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on June 03, 2018, 06:48:51 PM
If I have 25 spg stays in 2018, will I get Marriott Plat in 2019? Or need 25 stays by August 2018?
you will
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on June 03, 2018, 10:33:26 PM
End of May was the plan.

Looks like they are running behind schedule
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: 12HRS on June 11, 2018, 11:15:42 PM
Just to be clear $ spent on starwood card before 8/1 will earn 3 marriott ppd regardless of CC closing date?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on June 11, 2018, 11:19:23 PM
Just to be clear $ spent on starwood card before 8/1 will earn 3 marriott ppd regardless of CC closing date?
Yes.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: rapsjr on June 21, 2018, 11:53:59 AM
What will happen to my 7 night cat 5 voucher from marriott...
Will I still be able to use after 8/1?
Will I still be able to convert it to 45k points?

TIA!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on June 21, 2018, 12:36:28 PM
What will happen to my 7 night cat 5 voucher from marriott...
Will I still be able to use after 8/1?
Will I still be able to convert it to 45k points?

TIA!
no one knows for sure yet
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: runnergirl on June 21, 2018, 12:43:09 PM
no one knows for sure yet

I had asked Dan that same question a while back and he said the certificates will still be va;id.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on June 21, 2018, 01:02:13 PM
I had asked Dan that same question a while back and he said the certificates will still be va;id.
they will be valid but the categories will be different
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: gross5g on June 22, 2018, 05:30:32 AM
I had asked Dan that same question a while back and he said the certificates will still be va;id.
Not so sure about that
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/floater-free-night-certificates-including-those-from-marriott-travel-air-packages-will-be-converted-into-equivalent-points/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mendy613 on June 22, 2018, 10:43:04 AM
I have a feeling they will be pretty  generous as they have been up till this point...

 They’re probably not announcing the conversion rates as they don’t want everybody to buy like crazy..
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2018, 10:44:54 AM
I have a feeling they will be pretty  generous as they have been up till this point...

 They’re probably not announcing the conversion rates as they don’t want everybody to buy like crazy..
Yup. I'd expect a fair conversion rate or a lot of points.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on June 22, 2018, 11:12:30 AM
Yup. I'd expect a fair conversion rate or a lot of points.
I have about 170k SPG available. Should I transfer 100k to a United/marriott category 6 package? I have no plans for any of the points but targeting a trip to Israel next year and *A has the most options anyways.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on June 26, 2018, 10:14:44 PM
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/rumor-american-express-chase-to-team-up-limit-marriott-spg-bonuses/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CZ60 on June 28, 2018, 08:56:19 AM
Here it is. Read it and...... :)

https://points-redemption.marriott.com/category-change
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on June 28, 2018, 10:08:34 AM
Hmm. I have a booking for July 31-August 1, and my hotel went down by 5,000 Marriott. Do I get the lower rates, or a day too early? Does it go by the rate at check-in or checkout?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on June 28, 2018, 10:17:59 AM
Hmm. I have a booking for July 31-August 1, and my hotel went down by 5,000 Marriott. Do I get the lower rates, or a day too early? Does it go by the rate at check-in or checkout?
most likely check in
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Geshmak25 on June 28, 2018, 10:30:35 AM
Travel packages also announced. Looks like major deval

https://lacek.hs.llnwd.net/e1/marriott/redemption/HAR18036_TravelPackages_Chart2.pdf

Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zow on June 28, 2018, 10:39:12 AM
Travel packages also announced. Looks like major deval

https://lacek.hs.llnwd.net/e1/marriott/redemption/HAR18036_TravelPackages_Chart2.pdf


Yikes. Is it immediate or as of 8/1?
ETA: I see that DOC says effective 8/1.
Title: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yakrot on June 28, 2018, 10:46:02 AM
https://points-redemption.marriott.com/category-change

New award redemption chart is live as well
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zow on June 28, 2018, 10:46:34 AM
Referencing back to Dan's 4/19 DDMS post with predictions (gotta be one of the Top 10 posts of all times, IMHO), some of the predictions have unfortunately not come true.

For example:
Dan said:
"•Category 4 SPG hotels include the Sheraton Kona Resort & Spa At Keauhou Bay, HI, the Four Points Miami Beach, the Sheraton Brooklyn, the Westin Fort Lauderdale Beach Resort, and the W Beijing...." should be bookable with an "old" Cat1-5 cert. However, all of the above, save for Beijing, have jumped to unified Cat5. With the old Cat1-5 certs becoming usable only for unified Cat1-4, these hotels will be unavailable.

I haven't done the other comparisons yet....
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zow on June 28, 2018, 10:53:05 AM
Referencing back to Dan's 4/19 DDMS post with predictions (gotta be one of the Top 10 posts of all times, IMHO), some of the predictions have unfortunately not come true.

For example:
Dan said:
"•Category 4 SPG hotels include the Sheraton Kona Resort & Spa At Keauhou Bay, HI, the Four Points Miami Beach, the Sheraton Brooklyn, the Westin Fort Lauderdale Beach Resort, and the W Beijing...." should be bookable with an "old" Cat1-5 cert. However, all of the above, save for Beijing, have jumped to unified Cat5. With the old Cat1-5 certs becoming usable only for unified Cat1-4, these hotels will be unavailable.

I haven't done the other comparisons yet....

ETA: I guess it still remains possible that Marriott will allow old Cat1-5 to be used for unified Cat1-5 hotels, but that seems unlikely.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Geshmak25 on June 28, 2018, 11:00:41 AM
https://points-redemption.marriott.com/category-change

New award redemption chart is live as well
Yeah that was already posted above
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on June 28, 2018, 11:01:40 AM
Yeah that was already posted above
and in like 6 new threads
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Geshmak25 on June 28, 2018, 11:08:42 AM
@Dan when you put together your post on all of these changes can you please feature this hotel as a possibility of benefiting by booking now? Maybe I'll get a minyan for yeshiva week ;)

https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/laxnc-marriotts-newport-coast-villas/

ETA: too late  :'(
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2018, 11:27:11 AM
@Dan when you put together your post on all of these changes can you please feature this hotel as a possibility of benefiting by booking now? Maybe I'll get a minyan for yeshiva week ;)

https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/laxnc-marriotts-newport-coast-villas/

ETA: too late  :'(
Post a comment.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: rapsjr on June 28, 2018, 11:28:34 AM
What will happen to my 7 night cat 5 voucher from marriott...
Will I still be able to convert it to 45k points?

TIA!

We don't know this yet do we?
Trying to figure out if I should buy points or cash this in
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on June 28, 2018, 12:44:10 PM
Any idea on what the cash+points structure will be like?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on June 28, 2018, 12:47:14 PM
@Dan I have to be a bit skeptical about the all suite hotel pricing. Here is the reason why:

For example. Mystique is an all suite luxury collection hotel. Current pricing is 70K SPG Points. However, according to the new Marriott chart, the "current" pricing is only 90K Marriott Points - which we know is not true. It says the price will drop to 85K in 2019, however being the they are off about the current pricing leads me to believe marriott has something else up there sleeve. The same thing applies for Bora Bora and Maldives alike hotels.

Let me know your thoughts
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on June 28, 2018, 12:50:35 PM
I also have a very hard time believing that hotels like the St. Regis MLE will actually be bookable at that price. At the very least they'll probably make the entire calendar peak pricing.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Geshmak25 on June 28, 2018, 12:51:00 PM
@Dan I have to be a bit skeptical about the all suite hotel pricing.
+1. I was surprised at the overly positive post.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on June 28, 2018, 12:53:32 PM
I also have a very hard time believing that hotels like the St. Regis MLE will actually be bookable at that price. At the very least they'll probably make the entire calendar peak pricing.

Even peak would be too generous.

Current pricing isnt actually bookable, so why would I believe that the future one will be?

Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CS1 on June 28, 2018, 01:55:42 PM
@Dan when you put together your post on all of these changes can you please feature this hotel as a possibility of benefiting by booking now? Maybe I'll get a minyan for yeshiva week ;)

https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/laxnc-marriotts-newport-coast-villas/

ETA: too late  :'(

do you know the dates of yeshiva week?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Geshmak25 on June 28, 2018, 02:08:07 PM
do you know the dates of yeshiva week?
1/20 - 2/3 is open.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on June 28, 2018, 02:20:23 PM
do you know the dates of yeshiva week?
most places its 1/17-1/28
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Geshmak25 on June 28, 2018, 02:45:51 PM
most places its 1/17-1/28
So 1/20-1/28 works!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: sky121 on June 28, 2018, 10:27:15 PM
I've been busy and out of the loop here.  Just want to make sure I am following. If I booked the Gritti Palace for August- then come August I can call up to get a refund?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2018, 10:29:04 PM
I've been busy and out of the loop here.  Just want to make sure I am following. If I booked the Gritti Palace for August- then come August I can call up to get a refund?
Unclear.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: sky121 on June 28, 2018, 10:30:09 PM
Unclear.

Got it- It DID seem implied in your post though. As far as I understood.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on June 29, 2018, 01:32:54 AM
I think it will work out.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: thaber on June 29, 2018, 03:03:28 AM
I have a anniversary night, 7 night 1-5, and a reinstated reward cert that says partial package 1-5 45,000 points. IIRC, these may very well all be more valuable or usable come August? They expire in November, and was thinking to use them at the end of the summer
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on June 29, 2018, 08:33:48 AM
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/why-im-not-getting-my-hopes-up-over-60000-marriott-point-luxury-redemptions/

Interesting point of view
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on June 29, 2018, 08:40:25 AM
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/why-im-not-getting-my-hopes-up-over-60000-marriott-point-luxury-redemptions/

Interesting point of view
Debby downer. There are easy responses to all 3 of those, but I've got other DDMS posts to work on.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on June 29, 2018, 08:41:21 AM
Debby downer. There are easy responses to all 3 of those, but I've got other DDMS posts to work on.

I still dont get how to resolve the fact that the "current pricing" is not available at all for those luxury hotels.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Geshmak25 on June 29, 2018, 09:51:07 AM
Debby downer. There are easy responses to all 3 of those, but I've got other DDMS posts to work on.
I don't understand why you're so optimistic about this.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on June 30, 2018, 11:22:29 PM
"If a redemption stay is booked prior to when these new categories go into effect, a member would not automatically receive a points refund should the hotel require fewer points. Please contact us for assistance moving your reservation to new category pricing."

From DM to me on Twitter.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Baglach on July 01, 2018, 12:31:42 AM
What is the official date that will be able to redeem 60k at top properties, I'm hoping to get the W Koh Samui for Aug 5-8
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Ygold on July 01, 2018, 10:47:10 AM
How the heck are people making scrips to book rooms?!?! How do you do that?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on July 01, 2018, 01:31:58 PM
How the heck are people making scrips to book rooms?!?! How do you do that?
It's really not very difficult, could be done in half an hour by someone who knows what they're doing, maybe even less.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Billy Bandit on July 01, 2018, 04:42:40 PM
@Dan when you put together your post on all of these changes can you please feature this hotel as a possibility of benefiting by booking now? Maybe I'll get a minyan for yeshiva week ;)

https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/laxnc-marriotts-newport-coast-villas/

ETA: too late  :'(

No availability.. was there availability before?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Geshmak25 on July 01, 2018, 05:20:46 PM
No availability.. was there availability before?
Available from 1/20-2/3.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Billy Bandit on July 02, 2018, 11:26:31 AM
Available from 1/20-2/3.

I'm still not seeing any (attached). Are you seeing this on the website or are you calling in?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Geshmak25 on July 02, 2018, 11:39:31 AM
I'm still not seeing any (attached). Are you seeing this on the website or are you calling in?

Seeing it on the website (attached).
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on July 02, 2018, 12:15:15 PM
They may have a min stay req for standard room
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on July 02, 2018, 12:18:54 PM
Debby downer. There are easy responses to all 3 of those, but I've got other DDMS posts to work on.

https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/2018/07/02/marriotts-sleight-of-hand-category-changes-worse-than-advertised/

https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2018/07/02/fuzzy-math-marriott-raises-redemption-prices-in-order-to-say-theyre-lowering-prices/

more negative press
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Geshmak25 on July 02, 2018, 12:21:23 PM
https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/2018/07/02/marriotts-sleight-of-hand-category-changes-worse-than-advertised/

https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2018/07/02/fuzzy-math-marriott-raises-redemption-prices-in-order-to-say-theyre-lowering-prices/

more negative press
The second link is just a recap of the 1st.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2018, 12:23:24 PM
https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/2018/07/02/marriotts-sleight-of-hand-category-changes-worse-than-advertised/

https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2018/07/02/fuzzy-math-marriott-raises-redemption-prices-in-order-to-say-theyre-lowering-prices/

more negative press
I don't care about Fairfield Inns.
I care about the SR BOB and MLE.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on July 02, 2018, 01:33:43 PM
I don't care about Fairfield Inns.
I care about the SR BOB and MLE.
There are a lot of people who want to use their points at reasonable redemption rates. I.e. 10,000-15,000 SPG. A lot of those went up.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2018, 01:35:32 PM
There are a lot of people who want to use their points at reasonable redemption rates. I.e. 10,000-15,000 SPG. A lot of those went up.
On the Marriott side.
SPG side did pretty well.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on July 02, 2018, 01:41:01 PM
Maybe give that some press. And maybe try writing up about the low earning rate again?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: efflpetzel on July 04, 2018, 09:01:09 PM
I don't know if this has been posted before but i found this link very useful to check up specific hotels how much they are now and how much they'll be come august.

https://points-redemption.marriott.com/category-change?EM=DM_TN27280_27280_TBOPJune_EN_MED_EN&language=en_US&SWAQ=1VC&SWAQD=27280
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Allune on July 05, 2018, 05:30:17 PM
SPG lets your transfer unlimited point between accounts with same address.
Marriott caps at 50k points unless you have a reservation that it's being applied to directly. But after a certain amount of points, you need a supervisor.

Anyone know what the rule will be once there is a merger?  Need to transfer 4 mil SPG points or 12 mil Marriott points.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: farmbochur on July 05, 2018, 05:36:15 PM
Why not just initiate the transfer now?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on July 08, 2018, 01:49:28 AM
I don't know if this has been posted before but i found this link very useful to check up specific hotels how much they are now and how much they'll be come august.

https://points-redemption.marriott.com/category-change?EM=DM_TN27280_27280_TBOPJune_EN_MED_EN&language=en_US&SWAQ=1VC&SWAQD=27280
Thank you.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: diablo on July 08, 2018, 02:05:57 PM
I have not seen this discussed in previous posts -
Right now a major difference between the Starwood and Marriot booking sites is that with Marriot I can book with points even if I don't have them all available yet in my account. With Starwood I can't, at least not on the website. Does anyone know what will happen Aug 1? I am waiting for a bunch of points, but if they won't be available by then I don't want to miss out on availability.
Thanks
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on July 08, 2018, 03:01:19 PM
I have not seen this discussed in previous posts -
Right now a major difference between the Starwood and Marriot booking sites is that with Marriot I can book with points even if I don't have them all available yet in my account. With Starwood I can't, at least not on the website. Does anyone know what will happen Aug 1? I am waiting for a bunch of points, but if they won't be available by then I don't want to miss out on availability.
Thanks
you can do it now with SPG with calling (might be a platinum benefit) Are you sure that you can book Marriotts online without the points?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on July 08, 2018, 03:01:52 PM
Are you sure that you can book Marriotts online without the points?

Yes, I have done that in the past
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: gozalim on July 08, 2018, 08:17:01 PM
I have multiple SPG accounts
(2 different addresses, same person/name)
Can I merge multiple SPG into a single Marriott one?
merge now on SPG (wil they hassle me about the addresses?)

transfer to 2 separate Marriott accounts then merge those?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehudaa on July 19, 2018, 09:53:30 AM
Does anyone here know the exact date and time that the new award chart will go into effect? All I've seen is "August".
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on July 19, 2018, 09:56:11 AM
Does anyone here know the exact date and time that the new award chart will go into effect? All I've seen is "August".
8/1
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehudaa on July 19, 2018, 10:01:50 AM
8/1
At 12 AM?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on July 19, 2018, 10:07:05 AM
8/1
Source?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on July 19, 2018, 10:22:13 AM
Source?
i don't know why I had 8/1 in my head. After re-reading it does say August. One thing I do know is that in order to get to SPG platinum before the merger with 50 nights and get 10 suite night awards you need to hit 50 by 7/27 so I would expect everything to be merged by early August
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: farmbochur on July 19, 2018, 10:24:28 AM
Source?
But 7/31 is last day for 1 PPD on SPG Amex, no?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on July 19, 2018, 10:25:09 AM
But 7/31 is last day for 1 PPD on SPG Amex, no?
Yes.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: tdb on July 23, 2018, 01:00:00 PM
if my spg card statement date is 8/15 will half the month be 1ppd?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: GAM Z. on July 23, 2018, 01:20:55 PM
if my spg card statement date is 8/15 will half the month be 1ppd?
Yes.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CS1 on July 23, 2018, 02:17:21 PM
Yes.

link?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on July 23, 2018, 02:44:36 PM
link?
It's been confirmed multiple times by reps on Twitter. Every blogger posted this as well.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CS1 on July 23, 2018, 04:32:34 PM
It's been confirmed multiple times by reps on Twitter. Every blogger posted this as well.

that helps. So far different SPG/Amex phone reps have said different things.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on July 24, 2018, 07:55:42 AM
I don't know if this was mentioned but the ritz Carlton card will be giving an anniversary night up to 50k points beginning 8/26/18
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: 12HRS on July 24, 2018, 10:50:15 AM
I don't know if this was mentioned but the ritz Carlton card will be giving an anniversary night up to 50k points beginning 8/26/18

same as SPG luxury card.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: robbie on July 24, 2018, 11:50:55 AM
is there a thread selling 7 night vouchers?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on July 24, 2018, 11:51:59 AM
is there a thread selling 7 night vouchers?
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=30336.0
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dave.brown0112 on July 24, 2018, 01:49:05 PM
For the Sweetspots for certain hotels for the remainder of 2018 such as SPG suites - can I make the reservation in Dec 2018 for late 2019 at the discounted rates?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on July 24, 2018, 01:50:11 PM
For the Sweetspots for certain hotels for the remainder of 2018 such as SPG suites - can I make the reservation in Dec 2018 for late 2019 at the discounted rates?
yes
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dave.brown0112 on July 24, 2018, 04:06:10 PM
yes

Thanks!! Going to do a lot of that
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: 12HRS on July 24, 2018, 07:55:02 PM
what if a hotel is not on the new list? does that mean its staying the same

Sheraton Orlando Lake Buena Vista Resort
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehudaa on July 25, 2018, 12:21:27 PM
I know this is off topic but idk where else to post it: Can I buy a Miles+Nights package and credit the miles to someone else's account? (Wife's account in this case, but with different address and last name than mine).

Specifically, I want to buy a United 132k package and/or an Alaska 120k if they'll let this...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: hvaces42 on July 25, 2018, 04:37:08 PM
Will I be able to share points between Marriott accounts in the same household after merger?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: bobzilla on July 25, 2018, 05:14:12 PM
I have a reservation starting the 19th of August for 5 nights, and the Hotel will be 50k instead of 60k with the new chart starting Aug 18th.
what’s recommended?
I would need to cancel my reservation by August 16th, is it worth taking the risk?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mickeyg on July 25, 2018, 08:19:52 PM
My wife and I have been accumulating SPG points so we can do a big 10 year anniversary trip to a location that has those villas on the water. We have 100k starpoints saved up. In looking at SPG, these are all category 7 hotels at SPG. I would like to make use of the Marriott Points+Miles program, but I want to do it right. If I move over my starpoints to marriott, then I should get the 7 night certificate in a category 7 hotel, and then book the hotel between 8/2 and 8/18, right? Or, should I be getting a higher category hotel certificate?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dave.brown0112 on July 26, 2018, 08:30:49 AM
My wife and I have been accumulating SPG points so we can do a big 10 year anniversary trip to a location that has those villas on the water. We have 100k starpoints saved up. In looking at SPG, these are all category 7 hotels at SPG. I would like to make use of the Marriott Points+Miles program, but I want to do it right. If I move over my starpoints to marriott, then I should get the 7 night certificate in a category 7 hotel, and then book the hotel between 8/2 and 8/18, right? Or, should I be getting a higher category hotel certificate?

Youd need to go with a ritz tier 4-5 package if you want any chance of being able to redeem for those.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mickeyg on July 26, 2018, 10:44:27 AM
So, I've done some research and determined that all the hotels we're looking at, are category 8 or less. So I should be okay now, right?

Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KidOOO on July 26, 2018, 05:45:51 PM
Questions: me and 4 family members all have Starwood - can I still transfer them all now to my own account before they merge? and is it better to do now or after they merge?

also, what happens if i didn't link my SPG account to Marriot or if i don't have one?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: tired on July 26, 2018, 07:27:19 PM
I just "upgraded" a tier 1-3 certificate to a tier 4-5 certificate.

Marriott cancelled out the old certificate and credited me with 195,000 points and then debited me 315,000 points

It looks like they are charging 225,000 points for the miles.

Not sure if this is basic information. 

I imagine they will not credit 45,000 points for a 1-5 certificate
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on July 26, 2018, 10:43:35 PM
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/rumor-spg-luxury-launch-bonus-will-be-125000-points-lesser-cards-75000-points-stricter-anti-churn-language-to-be-added/

too bad most of us wont qualify
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on July 27, 2018, 12:10:32 AM
I just "upgraded" a tier 1-3 certificate to a tier 4-5 certificate.

Marriott cancelled out the old certificate and credited me with 195,000 points and then debited me 315,000 points

It looks like they are charging 225,000 points for the miles.

Not sure if this is basic information. 

I imagine they will not credit 45,000 points for a 1-5 certificate
Do you think the tier 1-3 will not be good for the new top category?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: tired on July 27, 2018, 12:24:09 AM
Initially I thought I would take the chance..... and still would - but I rarely stay in a hotel for more than 1 or 2 nights....

I am now looking ahead to a refund of points and figure I have better opportunities with the top Tier.

If I was planning on 7 days at a top Tier I would not have traded it in.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: brodes18 on July 27, 2018, 10:27:35 AM
https://samchui.com/2018/07/27/marriott-hotel-air-packages-no-longer-bookable-august-3/#.W1soydJKhaQ

The Certificates will no longer be bookable according to this. I wonder if thats the date they stop selling them.

Key part: “We encourage members with existing travel package certificates to book before August 4. After that date, those certificates will go dormant due to the new systems we have created to bring the loyalty programs together. Members should be rest assured though that we are working on a solution and will let them know as and when we have more information to share.”
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on July 27, 2018, 11:03:22 AM
https://samchui.com/2018/07/27/marriott-hotel-air-packages-no-longer-bookable-august-3/#.W1soydJKhaQ

The Certificates will no longer be bookable according to this. I wonder if thats the date they stop selling them.

Key part: “We encourage members with existing travel package certificates to book before August 4. After that date, those certificates will go dormant due to the new systems we have created to bring the loyalty programs together. Members should be rest assured though that we are working on a solution and will let them know as and when we have more information to share.”
Update: After reaching out to a Marriott spokesperson, I was told the below information isn’t correct, and there’s no August 4 deadline. Marriott recommends that members with a certificate attach it to a hotel stay before August 18. Obviously there’s a lot of confusion when it comes to this merger, and there are even conflicting official answers. I’ll leave this post up rather than deleting it so that people aren’t confused about why it disappeared, and know there’s no August 4 deadline.
https://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2018/07/27/marriott-travel-packages-august-4/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: jstu on July 29, 2018, 10:52:42 AM
Marriot flights & nights transfer pager seems to be down. Don't know what the exact implications of this are yet
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Billy Bandit on July 30, 2018, 11:33:26 AM
Marriot flights & nights transfer pager seems to be down. Don't know what the exact implications of this are yet

I just now redeemed for a 7 night Hotel+Air package.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: bermo on July 30, 2018, 01:29:12 PM
I just now redeemed for a 7 night Hotel+Air package.
How long was the wait time on the phone?
Thanks
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Billy Bandit on July 30, 2018, 07:04:41 PM
How long was the wait time on the phone?
Thanks
~30 minutes (I called the US number 1-800-321-7396)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KidOOO on July 30, 2018, 09:53:15 PM
Questions: me and 4 family members all have Starwood - can I still transfer them all now to my own account before they merge? and is it better to do now or after they merge?

also, what happens if i didn't link my SPG account to Marriot or if i don't have one?

Anyone know?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on July 31, 2018, 12:53:20 AM
Anyone know?
Transfer better and easier for family members under SPG, no limits.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: 12HRS on July 31, 2018, 07:47:26 AM
Transfer better and easier for family members under SPG, no limits.

except not instant
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: GAM Z. on July 31, 2018, 08:29:32 AM
except not instant
Marriot is/ will be instant transfer?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: metsgiantsfan on July 31, 2018, 11:34:32 AM
HMMM..I have an upcoming trip in November at a marriot resort in Phx. I got a crazy deal due to a time share presentation I agreed to go on.  I just got an invitation to a westin time share in phx which is a much nicer hotel. Do you think once the merger goes through they would let me swap hotels?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: metsgiantsfan on July 31, 2018, 03:23:21 PM
they wont
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on July 31, 2018, 03:48:09 PM
except not instant
Correct :)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on July 31, 2018, 03:49:43 PM
Correct :)
Till what date officially you can still transfer from one SPG account to another? I got confused from all the different dates they keep coming with.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shwarmabob on July 31, 2018, 04:08:15 PM
I linked my SPG and Marriott accounts and transferred some points. It doesn't show in my Marriott account yet (30 min later). How long does it usually take?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 31, 2018, 04:09:15 PM
I linked my SPG and Marriott accounts and transferred some points. It doesn't show in my Marriott account yet (30 min later). How long does it usually take?
Log out and back in and try to make a booking.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shwarmabob on July 31, 2018, 04:16:15 PM
Log out and back in and try to make a booking.
I did that before, it didn't help, but now after your reply, I did it again and voila everything is fine :)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: runnergirl on August 01, 2018, 08:40:30 PM
I did that before, it didn't help, but now after your reply, I did it again and voila everything is fine :)

Just received in an email from Amex: Note under New Benefit below

Here's what you can expect in August 2018
                
Updates to The Starwood Preferred Guest® Credit Card from American Express and The Starwood Preferred Guest® Business Card from American Express will go into effect on August 1, as previously communicated. The one-time Starpoints to points conversion in SPG loyalty member accounts and the updates to Elite status, will occur along with the broader Marriott loyalty program updates, taking place on August 18.

 
 
    On August 1, the following updates will be made to SPG® Amex Cards:   
 
How You Earn Points with Your Card

When you use your Card, you can earn

6X points for each dollar of eligible purchases at participating SPG and Marriott Rewards® hotels1,2
2X points on all other eligible purchases1,2
4X points for each dollar of eligible purchases at U.S. restaurants, at U.S. gas stations, on U.S. wireless telephone services purchased directly from U.S. service providers, and on U.S. purchases for shipping.2 Please note this update only applies to The Starwood Preferred Guest Business Credit Card from American Express.
 
New Benefits

Annual Free Night Award: Card Members whose Card account anniversary dates are on or after August 1 will be eligible to receive their annual Free Night Award (redemption level at or under 35,000 points) at a participating hotel.
Select hotels have resort fees. 3,4
Baggage Insurance Plan.5 Please note this update only applies to The Starwood Preferred Guest Credit Card from American Express.
 
 
    On August 18, you can expect to see these updates in your loyalty member account:   
 
In a one-time conversion, Starpoints will convert to points at a 1:3 ratio (one Starpoint will convert to three points). For example, 1,000 Starpoints will become 3,000 points. SPG will also make corresponding changes to the number of points required for redemptions.
SPG will introduce a new Silver Elite status that will be recognized at participating SPG and Marriott Rewards hotels. As a Card Member, you will be eligible to receive complimentary Silver Elite status.6 If you have a status level higher than Silver Elite status, your SPG Status will be converted to the respective new Marriott loyalty program status level.
 
 
    As part of these updates, there may be delays posting points to your loyalty member account.   
 
If you have any questions about your Card benefits, please call the number on the back of your Card. You can manage your account or chat with us anytime online at americanexpress.com.

Thank You for your Card Membership,

American Express Customer Care   
 
 
       
EXPLORE MORE WITH YOUR AMERICAN EXPRESS ® CARD
    

 
    
 Add Card Icon
Add someone to your account
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Refer a friend
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Add Amex Offers to your Card
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Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: curly on August 02, 2018, 03:28:55 PM
trying to transfer starpoints from one family member to another. do we really have to have the same address for 30 days
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 02, 2018, 03:29:37 PM
trying to transfer starpoints from one family member to another. do we really have to have the same address for 30 days
yes if not go through marriott
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on August 02, 2018, 04:02:04 PM
trying to transfer starpoints from one family member to another. do we really have to have the same address for 30 days
Yes, they will not allow it if less than 30.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: curly on August 02, 2018, 04:29:11 PM
yes if not go through marriott

how do i do that
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: GAM Z. on August 02, 2018, 04:39:53 PM
how do i do that
Transfer your SPG to marriot points,and than transfer your marriot points to whomever.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: curly on August 02, 2018, 07:23:18 PM
any other cheap way to obtion 1600 starpoints im short for a reservation
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on August 02, 2018, 07:58:52 PM
Buy them from SPG.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 02, 2018, 08:03:07 PM
any other cheap way to obtion 1600 starpoints im short for a reservation
Call AMEX, if you have the card, and ask them. Sometimes as a courtesy they will give you a couple thousand.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: davidrotts63 on August 02, 2018, 08:13:38 PM
Call AMEX, if you have the card, and ask them. Sometimes as a courtesy they will give you a couple thousand.
Then try SPG if denied.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 02, 2018, 08:15:17 PM
Has that ever actually worked? Up to How much would they actually give?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 02, 2018, 08:18:46 PM
Has that ever actually worked? Up to How much would they actually give?
Yes and YMMV. I think I remember hearing someone getting 8k. They also loan out points which you pay back overtime.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 02, 2018, 08:19:12 PM
Yes and YMMV. I think I remember hearing someone getting 8k. They also loan out points which you pay back overtime.
8k from SPG or Amex?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 02, 2018, 08:20:17 PM
8k from SPG or Amex?
Most of the DP’s I remember hearing are from AMEX.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: sky121 on August 03, 2018, 11:31:10 AM
I'm very out of the loop at the moment (busy+traveling)- can someone tell me if people have gotten back points for reservations booked August for hotels that went down?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 03, 2018, 11:43:39 AM
I'm very out of the loop at the moment (busy+traveling)- can someone tell me if people have gotten back points for reservations booked August for hotels that went down?
hotels didnt go down yet. they are going down 8/18
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: sky121 on August 03, 2018, 11:46:52 AM
Got it. Thanks :)
hotels didnt go down yet. they are going down 8/18
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 03, 2018, 11:49:15 AM
I'm very out of the loop at the moment (busy+traveling)- can someone tell me if people have gotten back points for reservations booked August for hotels that went down?
You'll need to call for a refund.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KidOOO on August 05, 2018, 09:38:04 PM
Transfer your SPG to marriot points,and than transfer your marriot points to whomever.

Do you mean transfer them back to anyone's SPG account? I don't see where you can transfer Marriott points to another account for free when not booking a reservations
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 05, 2018, 09:46:00 PM
Do you mean transfer them back to anyone's SPG account? I don't see where you can transfer Marriott points to another account for free when not booking a reservations
so book a reservation
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KidOOO on August 05, 2018, 09:56:18 PM
so book a reservation

so not as easy as SPG
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 05, 2018, 09:57:19 PM
so not as easy as SPG
nope but it's instant
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on August 06, 2018, 03:01:12 AM
so not as easy as SPG
No, I already transferred SPG to SPG.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Danlover111 on August 07, 2018, 11:17:05 AM
im out of the hock for a while,is it true that my ritz certs can be used for spg hotels?(st reges)
sounds to good to be true
thanks
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: presidentialplus on August 07, 2018, 01:14:49 PM
I currently have 67K SPG. I don't book hotels.
What would be my best resell value?
A package of 200k Marriott would only get me 55k UA, is that worth it?
What could I do to maximize my value?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: YesThatsMe on August 07, 2018, 01:54:39 PM
Does anyone know of a current Tier 1-3 which is becoming a Cat 8?

Dan gave the Ritz Toronto as an example but that's becoming a Cat 7....
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2018, 01:56:11 PM
Does anyone know of a current Tier 1-3 which is becoming a Cat 8?

Dan gave the Ritz Toronto as an example but that's becoming a Cat 7....
I gave the best possible examples.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 07, 2018, 01:56:14 PM
Does anyone know of a current Tier 1-3 which is becoming a Cat 8?

Dan gave the Ritz Toronto as an example but that's becoming a Cat 7....
Its all speculation at this point but @Dan speculated in his article that 1-3 would convert to a Category 7 and a Tier 4-5 would convert to a Cat 8
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: YesThatsMe on August 07, 2018, 02:03:46 PM
Its all speculation at this point but @Dan speculated in his article that 1-3 would convert to a Category 7 and a Tier 4-5 would convert to a Cat 8

Correct, but he also said to tie the cert to a hotel which is going up so hopefully can switch around.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: YesThatsMe on August 08, 2018, 12:29:43 PM
How can I use the Cert to book online? I find 7 nights but no option to select cert. Must I call?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehudaa on August 08, 2018, 12:32:59 PM
How can I use the Cert to book online? I find 7 nights but no option to select cert. Must I call?
Yes you have to call
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CS1 on August 08, 2018, 02:34:05 PM
Correct, but he also said to tie the cert to a hotel which is going up so hopefully can switch around.

will they allow a Tier 7 certificate booking be switched to another Tier 7 booking location and another date?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Bosco on August 09, 2018, 12:03:50 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed but does anyone have more information on the anniversary nights on the SPG card? My anniversary is in October so I should be eligible to get one but I havent been able to find when and where I can expect to see that night. Is it on my SPG account? How do I redeem it?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CS1 on August 09, 2018, 10:52:40 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed but does anyone have more information on the anniversary nights on the SPG card? My anniversary is in October so I should be eligible to get one but I havent been able to find when and where I can expect to see that night. Is it on my SPG account? How do I redeem it?
spg doesn't do a specific anniv night the same way that hyatt does. They just offer free nights with (less) SPG points, and they credit add'l stays each year towards gold status, etc...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on August 09, 2018, 11:31:28 PM
Why is there specific coupon codes for use with Marriott when there is no box to enter it by checkout?

ETA: Nevermind. You enter it while searching.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 10, 2018, 03:40:42 PM
https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-travel-packages-update/?utm_sourcemedium=Twitter
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 11, 2018, 11:35:11 PM
https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-new-program-terms/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mickeyg on August 13, 2018, 11:11:33 AM
Just got an email from SPG about my request to use my certificate...It seems like the certificates will be converted to point values, rather than being able to retain the 7 nights in their categories...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: stooges44 on August 13, 2018, 01:21:45 PM
And so it begins...

(https://i.gyazo.com/c15bb1286a9ee3401d12616062093bee.png)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Mootkim on August 13, 2018, 03:47:01 PM
My wife hit the 5k spend threshold for Marriott 100k point offer within the past few days but her most recent statement closed on the 4th of August before hitting the bonus amount. I want to be able to transfer the full amount into my SPG before the merger because I am Gold and would be limited to 50k after the merger. Is it possible to call chase and have my next statement close today (9 days after my previous statement) and then have the points post and transfer before the merger?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Moshe26 on August 14, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
I upgraded my 5 night cert to cat 6 to book 5 nights at residence inn surfside last week of sept. I just noticed that this hotel will become cheaper ( category 4)  on aug 18th and now im wondering if I should cancel the reservation and downgrade the cert back to a cat 5 and rebook next week. should I do that?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Maurice on August 14, 2018, 03:44:07 PM
I called Marriott today to book a miles+points package.  I was told by the customer service rep that I could book a current category 6 package and it would be eligible for the future category 6 hotel.  She issued the certificate and made the reservation at the hotel and told me I should call back after 8/18 and the certificate would be attached to the reservation.

Is she completely wrong?  Or is this how Marriott will be honoring awards (seems too generous)

How can I ensure Marriott honors this?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 14, 2018, 04:16:19 PM
I called Marriott today to book a miles+points package.  I was told by the customer service rep that I could book a current category 6 package and it would be eligible for the future category 6 hotel.  She issued the certificate and made the reservation at the hotel and told me I should call back after 8/18 and the certificate would be attached to the reservation.

Is she completely wrong?  Or is this how Marriott will be honoring awards (seems too generous)

How can I ensure Marriott honors this?

I was promised alot of things by marriott for Post 8/18. The best thing you can do is ask for a case # for everything the agent said
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Maurice on August 14, 2018, 05:08:27 PM
I reached out to Marriott support and THEY CONFIRMED

"
I reviewed your reservation and do see that on August 18, 2018 this hotel will change to a Category 6 hotel and the package eCertificate and you ordered will automatically attach to the reservation. 
 
Should this not occur in a timely manner, please call Marriott Customer Care or Marriott Rewards to attach the package eCertificate after this date has passed, but prior to your arrival."
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: how on August 15, 2018, 09:23:47 AM
I booked a cat 1-5 package but gave my wife United account number by mistake. Will the points still transfer to United if the first names don't match?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Geshmak25 on August 16, 2018, 08:30:34 AM
I attached the cert but never received a confirmation email which makes me think something went wrong. Is this how the reservation is supposed to look?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Ygold on August 16, 2018, 06:40:16 PM
If I book 4 or 5 nights under the current lower rate at a hotel, can I later modify the reservation to 2 or 3 nights after the rate goes up, without losing the lower rate? Or is it better to just book each night individually?

Also, would I be able to switch the arrival dates later?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shwarmabob on August 16, 2018, 08:41:16 PM
how long does it take to see the miles in my Alaska account?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shaulyaakov on August 17, 2018, 11:21:20 AM
I want to transfer Marriott points to my wife's account, but I realized that the addresses in the account don't match. The policy is that the addresses need to be the same for 30 days. If I try the transfer anyway, will I be at risk of being shut down?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Moshe26 on August 17, 2018, 11:29:15 AM
I want to transfer Marriott points to my wife's account, but I realized that the addresses in the account don't match. The policy is that the addresses need to be the same for 30 days. If I try the transfer anyway, will I be at risk of being shut down?
IIRC the 30 day rule is for SPG transfer. for Marriott you can transfer up to 50K to any account
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 17, 2018, 11:29:29 AM
I want to transfer Marriott points to my wife's account, but I realized that the addresses in the account don't match. The policy is that the addresses need to be the same for 30 days. If I try the transfer anyway, will I be at risk of being shut down?
Marriott addresses do not need to match
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shaulyaakov on August 17, 2018, 11:47:11 AM
Marriott addresses do not need to match

Sorry - I meant SPG.

I want to take care before the merger since she has about 25k spg which will be above the limit for a free marriott transfer.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 17, 2018, 11:48:40 AM
Sorry - I meant SPG.

I want to take care before the merger since she has about 25k spg which will be above the limit for a free marriott transfer.
its probably too late for SPG to SPG transfer at this point. Your best bet is to do 50k mt to mt now and once all the craziness calms down do the rest.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: how on August 17, 2018, 12:31:19 PM
Have a 7 day Cat 1-5 certificate. No real plan to ever use it. Any reason to wait for the 45k point refund. Is there a real chance that Marriott will give more after the merger.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Moshe26 on August 17, 2018, 01:01:51 PM
Have a 7 day Cat 1-5 certificate. No real plan to ever use it. Any reason to wait for the 45k point refund. Is there a real chance that Marriott will give more after the merger.
"Of course if you just want the miles at an amazing rate and a less expensive hotel stay you can book a category 1-5 certificate and attach it to the Calgary Airport Marriott as that hotel will be a unified category 5 hotel and you might just luck out and have your certificate remain valid for a category 5 hotel. Just be prepared for questions about why you’re spending a week in an airport hotel like DDF reader “zow” encountered 😀

I don’t see any good reason to leave a certificate unattached to a hotel at this point."

https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/marriott/marriott-travel-packages-purchased/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: how on August 17, 2018, 02:39:08 PM
"Of course if you just want the miles at an amazing rate and a less expensive hotel stay you can book a category 1-5 certificate and attach it to the Calgary Airport Marriott as that hotel will be a unified category 5 hotel and you might just luck out and have your certificate remain valid for a category 5 hotel. Just be prepared for questions about why you’re spending a week in an airport hotel like DDF reader “zow” encountered 😀

I don’t see any good reason to leave a certificate unattached to a hotel at this point."

https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/marriott/marriott-travel-packages-purchased/
I'm following all that. But is there a chance that Marriott will not allow me to refund it once it's attached to a hotel.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 17, 2018, 03:15:53 PM
Supposedly new MT program will limit sharing at 100k sending, 500k receiving. That is terrible.

I hope this is one of the nonsensical stuff they have been saying: E.g.  One SPG rep told me that their program is actually continuing through 2018 ;D ;D ;D

A supervisor yet...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on August 17, 2018, 03:27:17 PM
I understand, while making a reservation there is no limit on the amount of points allowed to transfer [for the reservation being made] for savvy users this is amazing.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Geshmak25 on August 17, 2018, 03:34:29 PM
I understand, while making a reservation there is no limit on the amount of points allowed to transfer [for the reservation being made] for savvy users this is amazing.
Currently yes, not necessarily true under the new system.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on August 17, 2018, 04:20:32 PM
I understand, while making a reservation there is no limit on the amount of points allowed to transfer [for the reservation being made] for savvy users this is amazing.
Let us hope it stays the same under the new program.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 17, 2018, 04:58:47 PM
Let us hope it stays the same under the new program.
unfortunately seems like not.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on August 17, 2018, 06:06:35 PM
unfortunately seems like not.
Agreed, mostly not.
Title: Did I do the right thing? Having second thoughts!
Post by: ssteinthal on August 18, 2018, 02:43:30 PM
Hi everyone,
I got a good agent on the phone yesterday who was willing to help but I didn't know how to make the best decisions on what to do with my 700k Marriott points I'd just transferred in from SPG. In the end, I decided to do this:

1. bought 120k southwest miles plus a 5 night cat 1-5 cert for 235k marriott points
2. bought 120k southwest miles plus a 7 night tier 1-3 cert for 420k marriott points
3. upgraded a 7 night cat 1-5 cert I already had to cat 9 for 120k miles

Now I'm having a little nervous buyer's remorse about spending the extra on the hotels.

did I need to spend almost 200k more points to get a 7 night tier 1-3? I feel that I should have used those points to get more southwest miles instead. I wonder if I can sell the certificate for at least what its incremental cost was. Was it worth it to upgrade the 7 night cert from cat 1-5 to cat 9 for 120k miles?

What's the actual value of those certificates if I decide to try to sell them? Thanks a lot...I hope I didn't mess up!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: gross5g on August 18, 2018, 04:16:14 PM
Marriott finally explains what happens to existing certificate

https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-travel-package-mapping/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Memere on August 18, 2018, 09:53:40 PM
Marriott finally explains what happens to existing certificate

https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-travel-package-mapping/

Those rotten pos at Marriott!
Couldn’t attach certs at 4 different hotels for 6 months!
Was on the phone for 4+ hours while the reps checked to no avail
 (some of us have jobs and can’t be on the phone that long!)
Anyone want to join a class action?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: brodes18 on August 18, 2018, 10:35:19 PM
This sucks. Simply for the reason that the Cat 6 I purchased for 30K more points is worth the same as the Cat 5. 7 & 8, 9 & 1-3 are in the same boat. They are messing with half of the people that purchased these certs. Oh man!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Agoldsc1 on August 18, 2018, 10:36:53 PM
Those rotten pos at Marriott!
Couldn’t attach certs at 4 different hotels for 6 months!
Was on the phone for 4+ hours while the reps checked to no avail
 (some of us have jobs and can’t be on the phone that long!)
Anyone want to join a class action?

 Unless you were planning on actually staying at that hotel, it seems that attaching a certificate to a property didn’t actually do anything. The actual issue from what I see is that certain categories will receive the same certificate as lower categories, for example a category seven and category eight will now both receive a category 6.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on August 18, 2018, 10:37:16 PM
They should refund the difference or something. And they definitely shouldn't have announced it the day after they stopped selling it. That shows that they knew what they were  going to do and yet they still kept everyone in the dark.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Agoldsc1 on August 18, 2018, 10:38:05 PM
This sucks. Simply for the reason that the Cat 6 I purchased for 30K more points is worth the same as the Cat 5. 7 & 8, 9 & 1-3 are in the same boat. They are messing with half of the people that purchased these certs. Oh man!

I agree. I also have a few category 6. They should either return the 30,000 points to us or let us add another 30,000 points and upgrade to the next category up.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: brodes18 on August 18, 2018, 10:49:36 PM
They should refund the difference or something. And they definitely shouldn't have announced it the day after they stopped selling it. That shows that they knew what they were  going to do and yet they still kept everyone in the dark.

+1
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: brodes18 on August 18, 2018, 10:52:17 PM
Dan is in for a surprise on this one:

Quote
My guess is that the tier 1-3 certificate will be good for hotels that are a unified category 7 or about 60K points per night. That would mean if we book a stay with that certificate by January that it should be valid in any SPG or Marriott hotel. My guess is that the tier 4-5 certificate will be good for hotels that are a unified category 8 or about 85K points per night. That would mean we would have more time to book a stay in any SPG or Marriott hotel and it would work even after January when category 8 properties go up from 60K points per night to 70K-100K points per night.

https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/marriott/marriott-travel-packages-purchased/

Can't wait for the reaction! Get the popcorn ready
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on August 18, 2018, 10:55:11 PM
Merger = bad for consumers. Period.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Agoldsc1 on August 18, 2018, 11:07:49 PM
Dan is in for a surprise on this one:

https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/marriott/marriott-travel-packages-purchased/

Can't wait for the reaction! Get the popcorn ready

Dan also predicted that a category 6 was a good purchase based on its likeliness to map into a category 5. I thin that Dan will lead the charge to get a refund of the 30k points for the categories that got screwed.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: good sam on August 19, 2018, 01:05:18 AM
The new website is now live.

First thing i noticed is that my status is Plat Elite (from Gold).

Second is Mystic Marriott (I have a reservation for this week) was downgraded from an 8 to a 5. I'm told they'll reissue the certificates tomorrow at the new rate. A savings of 15,000 per room per night (60k total)!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on August 19, 2018, 01:17:56 AM
The new website is now live.

First thing i noticed is that my status is Plat Elite (from Gold).

Second is Mystic Marriott (I have a reservation for this week) was downgraded from an 8 to a 5. I'm told they'll reissue the certificates tomorrow at the new rate. A savings of 15,000 per room per night (60k total)!
I'm plat elite on the website, but plat on the app. Also, points haven't been transferred from spg yet.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: good sam on August 19, 2018, 01:18:53 AM
I'm plat elite on the website, but plat on the app. Also, points haven't been transferred from spg yet.
Probably an error. Other areas of the website show Gold.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CZ60 on August 19, 2018, 02:19:59 AM
Anyone able to book STR Maldives or BOB (without cheating)? Just curious...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 19, 2018, 02:21:46 AM
Anyone able to book STR Maldives or BOB (without cheating)? Just curious...
cheating?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Naftuli19 on August 19, 2018, 02:22:50 AM
When i search STR on Marriotts site i see availability for 48k per night when i try booking it comes up as unavailable and i can only book with cash...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CZ60 on August 19, 2018, 02:24:44 AM
cheating?
Scripts
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 19, 2018, 02:36:39 AM
Scripts
not sure how that's relevant here, but ok.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 19, 2018, 03:18:51 AM
When i search STR on Marriotts site i see availability for 48k per night when i try booking it comes up as unavailable and i can only book with cash...

Bc reservation systems haven't yet been merged, and SPG's reservation systems block redemptions on that property as it has limited participation with SPG rewards. I expect you'll be able to redeem for the garden villa once the reservation systems are merged.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 19, 2018, 06:50:53 AM
My SPG account converted into a separate Marriott account (even though they were linked prior to the merger). anyone else having a similar issue?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 19, 2018, 07:03:25 AM
My SPG account converted into a separate Marriott account (even though they were linked prior to the merger). anyone else having a similar issue?

Same. Not a big deal though
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 19, 2018, 07:03:58 AM
Same. Not a big deal though

Anyway to combine the two?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 19, 2018, 07:06:07 AM
Anyway to combine the two?
I’m sure there will be soon. Dk as of now
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 19, 2018, 07:06:51 AM
How did you guys know you got a new Marriott number?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 19, 2018, 07:08:30 AM
How did you guys know you got a new Marriott number?

At first I logged into the Marriott app with my email, which only brought up my SPG details (i.e. points balance, reservations). I then logged into via browser and only saw my marriott details. I compared the two member numbers and they were different.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 19, 2018, 07:15:34 AM
Looks like this is an across the board problem.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on August 19, 2018, 07:47:11 AM
Tried matching to United Silver now that it says Platinum Elite, but site is down for maintenance...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: gross5g on August 19, 2018, 10:18:34 AM
My Ritz certificates on my account now say free night up to 60k no longer calls it a free night tier 1-4
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 19, 2018, 11:43:20 AM
https://onemileatatime.com/status-of-redeeming-points-with-marriott/

Anyone find this to be true? I see the prices, but it wont let me actually make the reservation
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 19, 2018, 11:48:11 AM
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: lifetimedeals on August 19, 2018, 01:49:01 PM
Wow all of a sudden simple Marriott properties that was 15K last week is showing now as 17.5K per night, bottom line we all lost big time on this merger.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 19, 2018, 01:54:15 PM
Wow all of a sudden simple Marriott properties that was 15K last week is showing now as 17.5K per night, bottom line we all lost big time on this merger.
its not all of a sudden you were warned about this
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: lifetimedeals on August 19, 2018, 01:56:05 PM
its not all of a sudden you were warned about this
I didn't think into this chart so much was just looking at the list of properties going up, how do we know when is peak or off peak at each property?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on August 19, 2018, 03:18:03 PM
its not all of a sudden you were warned about this
+1  also at the last minute I decided about buying travel packages, have enough points to would have both many, glad I passed.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 19, 2018, 03:39:48 PM
https://www.marriott.com/loyalty/merge-my-accounts.mi

This is now available for me
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on August 19, 2018, 03:39:51 PM
Tried matching to United Silver now that it says Platinum Elite, but site is down for maintenance...
+1 took a screenshot, but its more than a long shot.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 19, 2018, 03:58:34 PM
+1 took a screenshot, but its more than a long shot.

Why wouldnt it work afterwards?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mordechain on August 19, 2018, 04:08:12 PM
Because they said that SPG gold originating from Amex plat would not convert to Marriott plat. Don't expect the plat status to last past the weekend.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 19, 2018, 04:09:29 PM
Because they said that SPG gold originating from Amex plat would not convert to Marriott plat. Don't expect the plat status to last past the weekend.

Did you try merging your accounts? Wonder what would happen afterwards
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on August 19, 2018, 04:26:28 PM
Why wouldnt it work afterwards?
And now I'm seeing reports that only Platinum premier will match to United Silver... I took a screenshot of the current FAQs showing that Marriott Platinum will match to Silver.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 19, 2018, 04:27:45 PM
https://www.marriott.com/loyalty/merge-my-accounts.mi

This is now available for me
says coming soon
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 19, 2018, 04:28:24 PM
says coming soon

It said it for me. Try toggling between accounts your two accounts and eventually it’ll show up.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 19, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
And now I'm seeing reports that only Platinum premier will match to United Silver... I took a screenshot of the current FAQs showing that Marriott Platinum will match to Silver.

Can you share the screenshot?

It says I’m platinum now even though I got gold through Amex. I’m afraid to merge accounts since I have an upcoming stay later this week that I want the platinum benefits. Hoping it’ll stick around long enough.

Though I am curious what will happen if the accounts are merged.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on August 19, 2018, 06:14:17 PM
(https://s15.postimg.cc/lu6jt985j/Screenshot_2018-08-19-14-19-53.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/lu6jt985j/)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: bb_sam on August 20, 2018, 07:12:20 AM
I made the mistake of cancelling a pre-merger booking (in order to rebook it at the lower award rate post merger) -- the points from my cancellation are now in limbo.  The cancellation or the points from it are no where to be found.  I called Marriott and they say it could take 24 hours to update with the new balance.  It's been about 18 hours.  Still waiting......
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: jomaster28 on August 20, 2018, 09:42:33 AM
I attached a Category 9 Travel Package to the Domes of Eluda...Can i only switch to another Cat 6 Hotel or from now until February i can switch to any other 60k point hotel?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 20, 2018, 09:52:28 AM
Anyone able to merge today?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Moshe26 on August 20, 2018, 11:20:32 AM
I attached a Category 9 Travel Package to the Domes of Eluda...Can i only switch to another Cat 6 Hotel or from now until February i can switch to any other 60k point hotel?
Did the same. Would love to know the answer as well
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zow on August 20, 2018, 11:27:04 AM
Did the same. Would love to know the answer as well
Can't do anything except cancel until 9/18.  Hoping we'll know what policy will be before that deadline. However, would not be surprised if they wait until after that date to tell us.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: jomaster28 on August 20, 2018, 11:29:52 AM
Can't do anything except cancel until 9/18.

Correct. Best case you will be able to use it at any 60k points per night property...worst case, only another Cat 6
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Agoldsc1 on August 20, 2018, 12:39:51 PM
So is anyone holding out hope that Marriott will refunds the 30k points to the holders of Category 6,8 and tier 1-3 certificates? Or maybe will give them the option to upgrade to the next category up for an additional 30k? Or is that clearly not happening?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 20, 2018, 12:57:24 PM
So is anyone holding out hope that Marriott will refunds the 30k points to the holders of Category 6,8 and tier 1-3 certificates? Or maybe will give them the option to upgrade to the next category up for an additional 30k? Or is that clearly not happening?
I think they’ll refund 30k and call it a day, but they may do nothing or something else
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on August 20, 2018, 01:30:27 PM
Marriott showing the rate at the st regis maldives you can not cancel anyway to get around that? I feel like all the bloggers and people in the know are up to something lol
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: YesThatsMe on August 20, 2018, 01:33:44 PM
Marriott showing the rate at the st regis maldives you can not cancel anyway to get around that? I feel like all the bloggers and people in the know are up to something lol

Why do you think Dan is so quite lol
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on August 20, 2018, 01:43:08 PM
 :) its slowly killing me. I would appreciate any pm with some help. Something doesn't add up everyone posting for weeks on end and then just quiet.
If there is a rate that you have to book 6 nights for it to be ava can you book then call to cancel one of the nights for a points refund?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shapsam on August 20, 2018, 01:47:48 PM
:) its slowly killing me. I would appreciate any pm with some help. Something doesn't add up everyone posting for weeks on end and then just quiet.
If there is a rate that you have to book 6 nights for it to be ava can you book then call to cancel one of the nights for a points refund?
Should work.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Agoldsc1 on August 20, 2018, 01:48:50 PM
I think they’ll refund 30k and call it a day, but they may do nothing or something else

Hoping you are right. Or even better would be the option to upgrade for an additional 30k, but that seems unlikely to me.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Naftuli19 on August 20, 2018, 01:58:08 PM
Anyone have any success booking any STR room with points?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 20, 2018, 01:58:37 PM
Marriott showing the rate at the st regis maldives you can not cancel anyway to get around that? I feel like all the bloggers and people in the know are up to something lol
doesnt let me book, nor anyone else i know
Title: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 20, 2018, 02:51:29 PM
doesnt let me book, nor anyone else i know
Tried both online and calling and both are not able to book yet.

They are also not able to match previously made reservations to the new rates just yet, apparently.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 20, 2018, 02:56:43 PM
Thoughts/changes?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/theres-one-reason-marriott-concealing-travel-package-conversion-chart-wanted-fleece-loyalty-members/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on August 20, 2018, 03:00:16 PM
What I'm trying to understand is, didn't they say the whole time that from August 18 the program will be merged, and all accounts will be merged? Right now, everyone still seems to have two separate accounts, points and nights/stays are not combined yet, you still need to go to the SPG site to book SPG hotels (if it works), etc.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on August 20, 2018, 03:04:12 PM
Thoughts/changes?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/theres-one-reason-marriott-concealing-travel-package-conversion-chart-wanted-fleece-loyalty-members/
Looks awesome. Good luck.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Agoldsc1 on August 20, 2018, 03:10:45 PM
Thoughts/changes?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/theres-one-reason-marriott-concealing-travel-package-conversion-chart-wanted-fleece-loyalty-members/

Really good post and I hope that it gains traction! That being said, I'm not sure that I agree with every criticism, specifically:

1. Not allowing old top-tier 4-5 certificates work on new top-tier category 8 hotels starting in February-- To be fair, SPG has some properties which are superior to any Marriott property, so this is not entirely unfair.

2. Not allowing upgrades and downgrades on certificates, despite most certificates being sold with the promise that they would be upgraded and downgraded. This problem was exacerbated by members not knowing how the old categories would map to new categories-- Marriott gave advance warning that this would be the case, and gave the certificate holders time to upgrade/downgrade as they saw fit.

3. Freezing travel package certificates from use until 9/18-- Marriott gave advance warning, so certificate holders had the opportunity to book in advance.

The points which I find to be the most poignant are:

1. Lumping together multiple certificates to the same level without offering a refund-- this is completely unfair and tantamount to theft. I think that there would be outrage if Marriott were to have downgraded all certificates to the new category 1-4, and the fact that they essentially did that for only some categories is no different. But do we know for certain that they will not be offering a refund)?

2.Not publishing the how the categories would map over, despite knowing exactly how it would happen before it was published on the day of the program merger-- there is no clearer proof of bad-faith and unfair dealing than this.

Good luck Dan! We're counting on you to make this right as you have done so many times before!!

Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Naftuli19 on August 20, 2018, 03:12:03 PM
Very well said!!
Thoughts/changes?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/theres-one-reason-marriott-concealing-travel-package-conversion-chart-wanted-fleece-loyalty-members/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Hjay on August 20, 2018, 03:40:48 PM
Thoughts/changes?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/theres-one-reason-marriott-concealing-travel-package-conversion-chart-wanted-fleece-loyalty-members/

Beautiful!!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 20, 2018, 03:42:29 PM
Looks like they are refunding the 30k points or am I missing something?

https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-travel-packages-refunds/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: moisheyb on August 20, 2018, 03:43:27 PM
Thoughts/changes?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/theres-one-reason-marriott-concealing-travel-package-conversion-chart-wanted-fleece-loyalty-members/
https://dealswelike.boardingarea.com/2018/08/20/marriott-makes-good-on-their-travel-packages/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Agoldsc1 on August 20, 2018, 03:45:25 PM
https://dealswelike.boardingarea.com/2018/08/20/marriott-makes-good-on-their-travel-packages/

Big news! Now if only there was an option to add an additional 30k points and upgrade to the higher category!!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 20, 2018, 03:45:42 PM
That was quick
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: moisheyb on August 20, 2018, 03:46:22 PM
Big news! Now if only there was an option to add an additional 30k points and upgrade to the higher category!!
Wishful thinking now,
Quickest Dan resolution ever!!!!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Deal Guy on August 20, 2018, 06:16:15 PM
Does it matter if I sign in (for the first time post merger) via spg.com or via Marriott.com?
Are they only keeping your Marriott rewards number?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on August 20, 2018, 06:23:30 PM
Spg will redirect you to a new marriott account that will have your spg points
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: S123 on August 20, 2018, 06:27:21 PM
Did anybody have there points post from last month billing statement?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Deal Guy on August 20, 2018, 06:33:02 PM
I created a Marriott account recently. Will I keep that number, or will it be a 3rd number?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: buchir on August 20, 2018, 06:46:39 PM
I created a Marriott account recently. Will I keep that number, or will it be a 3rd number?


I got a new number. they didn't yet combine my 2 accounts (Spg, Marriott).
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on August 20, 2018, 07:38:05 PM
Did anybody have there points post from last month billing statement?
Mine did not post yet.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shapsam on August 21, 2018, 07:58:38 AM
Seems like all-suite hotels are now bookable over the phone (for some reason they're charging an extra 6K per night).

https://onemileatatime.com/successful-al-maha-booking/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 21, 2018, 08:10:02 AM
PSA: do not refund reservations!! The points don't come back and get stuck somewhere in Limbo and no one can help...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Naftuli19 on August 21, 2018, 08:18:27 AM
Seems like all-suite hotels are now bookable over the phone(for some reason they're charging an extra 6K per night).

https://onemileatatime.com/successful-al-maha-booking/
Anyone have luck with booking any STR property over the phone?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 21, 2018, 10:12:06 AM
Anyone have luck with booking any STR property over the phone?
I was able to book SRBH online last night
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 21, 2018, 10:17:05 AM
I was just able to combine my accounts using the link 3 pages ago
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 21, 2018, 10:22:09 AM
I was just able to combine my accounts using the link 3 pages ago

Which account number did you decide to keep?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Naftuli19 on August 21, 2018, 10:25:22 AM
How much per night?
I was able to book SRBH online last night
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 21, 2018, 10:30:07 AM
How much per night?
48k on a 5 night
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 21, 2018, 10:30:52 AM
Which account number did you decide to keep?
it was between my old marriott or new SPG I just went with old marriott
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on August 21, 2018, 10:46:58 AM
Tried matching to United Silver now that it says Platinum Elite, but site is down for maintenance...
Anyone still Platinum Elite? They put my account back to Gold Elite last night.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Naftuli19 on August 21, 2018, 10:49:55 AM
Anyone still Platinum Elite? They put my account back to Gold Elite last night.
Same here
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Theg on August 21, 2018, 10:56:48 AM
Was able to book a few dates st sr mle but they charged me 68k per night for the overwater villa
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Theg on August 21, 2018, 10:58:38 AM
48k on a 5 night
Was that for the garden villa?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 21, 2018, 11:01:22 AM
Was that for the garden villa?
They dont have garden Villas at the St. Regis Bal Harbour
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 21, 2018, 11:01:48 AM
Was able to book a few dates st sr mle but they charged me 68k per night for the overwater villa
that is amazing!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on August 21, 2018, 11:04:34 AM
What was the cancelation policy at 68k points?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Theg on August 21, 2018, 11:11:18 AM
Was that for the garden villa?
Oh I thought you were talking abo sr mle
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Theg on August 21, 2018, 11:13:16 AM
What was the cancelation policy at 68k points?
Need to cancel 1 month before or pay $10,000....
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CZ60 on August 21, 2018, 11:30:03 AM
Was able to book a few dates st sr mle but they charged me 68k per night for the overwater villa
Really 85k but 5th free, correct? When are you going?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Theg on August 21, 2018, 11:31:55 AM
Correct. Booked a few dates Jan and February
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Naftuli19 on August 21, 2018, 11:33:23 AM
Just booked STR MLE for 6nights 420k Marriott points...!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Naftuli19 on August 21, 2018, 11:35:58 AM
Just booked STR MLE for 6nights 420k Marriott points...!
Did not receive confirmation email so fingers crossed🤞
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 21, 2018, 11:37:58 AM
I was just able to combine my accounts using the link 3 pages ago

still not available for me. Just says "Coming Soon"
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CZ60 on August 21, 2018, 11:38:57 AM
I'm thinking long and hard about going back.. the points prices are better than when I and others originally went! And I'm sure the hotel is even better now that it's 2 years in. Anybody going, don't forget to read my TR! :)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: maxmiles on August 21, 2018, 12:00:00 PM
Anyone have any luck with getting a refund on the extra points spent?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Ergel on August 21, 2018, 12:00:17 PM
Was able to book a few dates st sr mle but they charged me 68k per night for the overwater villa
That's a steal. 22.5K SPG. Amazing
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 21, 2018, 12:08:58 PM
Quote
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2018/06/28/caution-marriotts-new-chart-is-good-for-top-hotels-but-not-as-good-as-you-think/
I’m seeing a ton of coverage of Marriott’s new award chart lauding the top points price of the most expensive hotels. For instance, Dan’s Deals: wrote AMAZING! Marriott’s New Award Chart Is A Dream Come True For Aspirational Hotels. This is indeed good news, but it needs to be tempered.


@Dan I have to be a bit skeptical about the all suite hotel pricing. Here is the reason why:

For example. Mystique is an all suite luxury collection hotel. Current pricing is 70K SPG Points. However, according to the new Marriott chart, the "current" pricing is only 90K Marriott Points - which we know is not true. It says the price will drop to 85K in 2019, however being the they are off about the current pricing leads me to believe marriott has something else up there sleeve. The same thing applies for Bora Bora and Maldives alike hotels.

Let me know your thoughts
I also have a very hard time believing that hotels like the St. Regis MLE will actually be bookable at that price. At the very least they'll probably make the entire calendar peak pricing.
+1. I was surprised at the overly positive post.
Even peak would be too generous.

Current pricing isnt actually bookable, so why would I believe that the future one will be?


https://www.doctorofcredit.com/why-im-not-getting-my-hopes-up-over-60000-marriott-point-luxury-redemptions/

Interesting point of view
I still dont get how to resolve the fact that the "current pricing" is not available at all for those luxury hotels.
I don't understand why you're so optimistic about this.

#FreezingColdTakes  ;) ;D
Title: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on August 21, 2018, 12:12:43 PM

#FreezingColdTakes  ;) ;D
Ahem, I think my prediction was pretty on point. Nothing is available at the lowest 60k rate and not being able to use certs is a killer.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CZ60 on August 21, 2018, 12:12:52 PM

#FreezingColdTakes  ;) ;D
Did you save all of these comments for "a later date"? Lol :)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 21, 2018, 12:14:39 PM
Ahem, I think my prediction was pretty on point. Nothing is available at the lowest 60k rate.
Lol, the beach villa will get there soon, but who wants a beach villa anyway?
OWB for 68-85K is insane.
Title: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on August 21, 2018, 12:15:14 PM
Lol, the beach villa will get there soon, but who wants a beach villa anyway?
OWB for 68-85K is insane.
True, although if you can book beach villa with a cert and pay to upgrade that's even better.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Ergel on August 21, 2018, 12:19:25 PM
True, although if you can book beach villa with a cert and pay to upgrade that's even better.
If the upgrade cost is $300-400/night?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on August 21, 2018, 12:21:54 PM
If the upgrade cost is $300-400/night?
Eh, I guess not if it's that much.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Geshmak25 on August 21, 2018, 12:31:12 PM

#FreezingColdTakes  ;) ;D
Here's another good list of #FreezingColdTakes

https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/marriott/guesstimating-marriott-travel-packages-will-work-august-take-advantage-marriotts-lucrative-milesnights-packages-now/
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/another-guess-will-happen-certificates-marriotts-lucrative-milesnights-travel-packages-take-advantage-now/
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/marriott/marriotts-remaining-travel-package-options-will-go-points-category-based-certificates-now/

Yes, you listed every single scenario known to man kind so you can always say that you predicted this. But you analysis clearly assumed that there would be some leverage points at some point in the mapping of the certs.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 21, 2018, 12:33:47 PM
Here's another good list of #FreezingColdTakes

https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/marriott/guesstimating-marriott-travel-packages-will-work-august-take-advantage-marriotts-lucrative-milesnights-packages-now/
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/another-guess-will-happen-certificates-marriotts-lucrative-milesnights-travel-packages-take-advantage-now/
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/marriott/marriotts-remaining-travel-package-options-will-go-points-category-based-certificates-now/

Yes, you listed every single scenario known to man kind so you can always say that you predicted this. But you analysis clearly assumed that there would be some leverage points at some point in the mapping of the certs.
Tis true, though category 1-5, 7, and 9 played out as expected for option 4.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 21, 2018, 01:09:49 PM
At least I wasn't posting that 5 would likely remain 5, 6 would likely remain 6, 7 would likely remain 7, and 8 would likely remain 8 as some bloggers did :D
Title: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 21, 2018, 01:11:23 PM
Booked to return to SR MLE in July but they are still not able to refund my upcoming reservations. Will give it till tomorrow before I keep escalating till they agree to do it since my reservation is on Thursday.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 21, 2018, 01:15:22 PM
Booked to return to SR MLE in July but they are still not able to refund my upcoming reservations. Will give it till tomorrow before I keep escalating till they agree to do it since my reservation is on Thursday.
do not try to refund now!!! 3 points will not come back at the moment, they're having system issues with it. If they can somehow it just it manually that would probably work. But don't lose the dates!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 21, 2018, 01:16:46 PM
do not try to refund now!!! 3 points will not come back at the moment, they're having system issues with it. If they can somehow it just it manually that would probably work. But don't lose the dates!
Don’t care if it gets lost in the ether for sometime as Im sure with enough HUCA I’ll get them back as long as I’m able to get it done before my reservation as I don’t think they’ll be so willing after my stay is over...

Also was able to just merge my accounts online.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 21, 2018, 01:20:00 PM
It's #FakeNews
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/starwood/rack-starpoints-still-can-will-6-months-amazing-starwood-hotel-bargains/

To what exactly were you calling Fakenews?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 21, 2018, 01:25:27 PM
To what exactly were you calling Fakenews?
Lol, that was based on Flueck's TPG interview saying it wouldn't happen.

Though he was right about the AMEX Plat loophole not going to work.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 21, 2018, 01:28:15 PM
Lol, that was based on Flueck's TPG interview saying it wouldn't happen.

Though he was right about the AMEX Plat loophole not going to work.

Still trying to get my amex platinum status :-)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 21, 2018, 01:36:59 PM
Don’t care if it gets lost in the ether for sometime as Im sure with enough HUCA I’ll get them back as long as I’m able to get it done before my reservation as I don’t think they’ll be so willing after my stay is over...

Also was able to just merge my accounts online.
best is if you can, make a new reservation and cancel the old one, that will be the easiest.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 21, 2018, 01:37:48 PM
best is if you can, make a new reservation and cancel the old one, that will be the easiest.
I’ll try that but will have to convince them to waive cancellation fee.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 21, 2018, 02:53:14 PM
Lol, the beach villa will get there soon, but who wants a beach villa anyway?
OWB for 68-85K is insane.
Exactly.

Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on August 21, 2018, 03:00:04 PM
Anyone still Platinum Elite? They put my account back to Gold Elite last night.
+1
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on August 21, 2018, 03:03:15 PM
+1
Still showing plat for me.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KidOOO on August 21, 2018, 03:18:17 PM
So booking properties in MLE can be done only over the phone?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 21, 2018, 03:19:43 PM
So booking properties in MLE can be done only over the phone?
For now, yes.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 21, 2018, 03:23:53 PM
For now, yes.
I booked a few stays, though in the last 2 hours reps cant see anything seemingly.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 21, 2018, 03:24:32 PM
I booked a few stays, though in the last 2 hours reps cant see anything seemingly.
You booked MLE without calling in?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on August 21, 2018, 03:27:58 PM
Still showing plat for me.
Did you earn plat?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 21, 2018, 03:28:10 PM
You booked MLE without calling in?
no, by calling in. Though even when calling in now, they claim they cant see. Still hucaing though
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on August 21, 2018, 03:29:31 PM
Did you earn plat?
Of course not.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 21, 2018, 03:30:42 PM
no, by calling in. Though even when calling in now, they claim they cant see. Still hucaing though
6 hucas down...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shapsam on August 21, 2018, 03:40:59 PM
6 hucas down...
Maybe was just a glitch?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 21, 2018, 03:43:50 PM
Maybe was just a glitch?
doubtful, they promised these rates... Could be system is glitchy
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KidOOO on August 21, 2018, 04:44:25 PM
doubtful, they promised these rates... Could be system is glitchy

Or maybe all sold out
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 21, 2018, 04:53:05 PM
Or maybe all sold out
could be
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dave.brown0112 on August 21, 2018, 05:39:16 PM
How can i pick up 10 elite nights ? Already have a SPG Amex
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: hide4 on August 21, 2018, 07:59:51 PM
Quote from SPG / Marriott rep: "I don't usually drink at all, but lately I've seen myself become an alcoholic"  :D
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 21, 2018, 08:51:31 PM
Quote from SPG / Marriott rep: "I don't usually drink at all, but lately I've seen myself become an alcoholic"  :D
We may have had the same rep. But mine managed to book ovw villa at r sr mle no problem, so I’m happy.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 21, 2018, 09:17:27 PM
We may have had the same rep. But mine managed to book ovw villa at r sr mle no problem, so I’m happy.
when was this?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 22, 2018, 03:22:04 AM
For those who still have Plat match it ASAP at https://mrrewardsplus.com/en_US/ as the site is live.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: hide4 on August 22, 2018, 05:59:29 AM
For those who still have Plat match it ASAP at https://mrrewardsplus.com/en_US/ as the site is live.
Done. Thanks
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CZ60 on August 22, 2018, 09:05:07 AM
Anybody else having trouble accessing their account online. I'm getting an "unprocessable error"... Was trying to book something and the agent told me I had 0 points... Good thing for screenshots and such. Anybody else with this issue?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: runnergirl on August 22, 2018, 10:07:23 AM
Yes, I also had this issue this morning.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on August 22, 2018, 11:27:31 AM
For those who still have Plat match it ASAP at https://mrrewardsplus.com/en_US/ as the site is live.
Shame that I lost it....

Anyone one's points from CC spending posted yet?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: tjak on August 22, 2018, 12:07:21 PM
If I received gold status from the Ritz credit card what should my current status be?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: jomaster28 on August 22, 2018, 12:30:13 PM
Points Advance still doesn't work for SPG Hotels? Works for the Ritz but not SPG.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: hide4 on August 22, 2018, 12:32:56 PM
If I received gold status from the Ritz credit card what should my current status be?
Should be Platinum. May be Platinum Elite.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 22, 2018, 12:36:30 PM
Points Advance still doesn't work for SPG Hotels? Works for the Ritz but not SPG.
correct.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 22, 2018, 12:36:35 PM
Should be Platinum. May be Platinum Elite.
Officially should be gold.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 22, 2018, 12:37:35 PM
4 calls in and still no one willing to refund me points difference. Anyone have luck with this recently?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 22, 2018, 01:01:34 PM
4 calls in and still no one willing to refund me points difference. Anyone have luck with this recently?

5th person told me that though his supervisor won’t allow the change he advises I call the hotel directly to cancel and rebook. So I did and it worked pretty easily. I simply told them that I’ll rebook the same nights before you go ahead and cancel to ensure that I am not simply looking to cancel to waive the fee.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dave.brown0112 on August 22, 2018, 01:44:31 PM
Shame that I lost it....

Anyone one's points from CC spending posted yet?

Is this still available? Looks like Aug 23 the website will be fixed
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 22, 2018, 01:48:19 PM
Is this still available? Looks like Aug 23 the website will be fixed
Use the link I posted above. That should work now if you still hold the status.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: tjak on August 22, 2018, 02:00:02 PM
Officially should be gold.
Gold is what I got. But I was under the impression that gold earned on the Marriot program will turn into platinum. Couldn’t find anything that said if it was earned by the credit it would be treated differently.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 22, 2018, 02:01:59 PM
Gold is what I got. But I was under the impression that gold earned on the Marriot program will turn into platinum. Couldn’t find anything that said if it was earned by the credit it would be treated differently.
It had to be earned by stays to get platinum. If you got gold from a match you are supposed to stay at gold
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 22, 2018, 02:39:37 PM
5th person told me that though his supervisor won’t allow the change he advises I call the hotel directly to cancel and rebook. So I did and it worked pretty easily. I simply told them that I’ll rebook the same nights before you go ahead and cancel to ensure that I am not simply looking to cancel to waive the fee.
For those that will be doing it this way note that the points will not be deposited back into account for possibly 7-10 days.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 22, 2018, 03:02:38 PM
It had to be earned by stays to get platinum. If you got gold from a match you are supposed to stay at gold
Marriott wasn’t clear on this (Re status earned by RC card). They were clear that spg gold earned by cc would translate to Marriott gold.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Deal Guy on August 22, 2018, 03:18:56 PM
If it says platinum, how easily can you get united silver?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on August 22, 2018, 03:21:27 PM
Use this link and see if it works. It can take 7-10 BD but usually takes around 4.
https://mrrewardsplus.com/en_US
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on August 22, 2018, 06:25:36 PM
Use this link and see if it works. It can take 7-10 BD but usually takes around 4.
https://mrrewardsplus.com/en_US
Link was broken earlier today, linked to a broken sign in page. Then it was updated to down until August 23. Now it says August 24.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: bb_sam on August 22, 2018, 08:26:02 PM
For those that will be doing it this way note that the points will not be deposited back into account for possibly 7-10 days.

+1 --> I'm 4 days in the wait.  Each time I call, I'm told to keep waiting.  I haven't been told the 7-10 days yet -- just that they're working on the issue. 
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: elig770 on August 23, 2018, 12:10:36 AM
Anyone call Marriott about being down graded from Platinum back to Gold in effort to get switched back?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shulem92 on August 23, 2018, 12:43:42 AM
Gold is what I got. But I was under the impression that gold earned on the Marriot program will turn into platinum. Couldn’t find anything that said if it was earned by the credit it would be treated differently.
It had to be earned by stays to get platinum. If you got gold from a match you are supposed to stay at gold
Marriott wasn’t clear on this (Re status earned by RC card). They were clear that spg gold earned by cc would translate to Marriott gold.
i got plat, because i had 10k spend on my RC card, maybe thats different than just having the card open the first year?
marriott said clearly that if you had gold from their side (and no this isnt a "match") then it would convert into plat
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on August 23, 2018, 12:46:51 AM
Anyone call Marriott about being down graded from Platinum back to Gold in effort to get switched back?
Could you call for me? :)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 23, 2018, 01:22:24 AM
5th person told me that though his supervisor won’t allow the change he advises I call the hotel directly to cancel and rebook. So I did and it worked pretty easily. I simply told them that I’ll rebook the same nights before you go ahead and cancel to ensure that I am not simply looking to cancel to waive the fee.
There was availability though?  My issue is the SR is no longer bookable, so they cant do that...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: thaber on August 23, 2018, 02:35:27 AM
1) any reason to wait on merging accounts?
2)
For those who still have Plat match it ASAP at https://mrrewardsplus.com/en_US/ as the site is live.
this is down till 8/24 for now
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 23, 2018, 04:52:00 AM
@Dan how do you have 15 years of platinum and only 280 nights?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 05:14:37 AM
@Dan how do you have 15 years of platinum and only 280 nights?

Throwing out the first pitch counted for like 200 nights
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 05:15:19 AM
So will it no longer be possible to book a reservation on marriott and attach the points later?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Denverite on August 23, 2018, 06:13:38 AM
So will it no longer be possible to book a reservation on marriott and attach the points later?

I don't know if its not possible at all but I asked a rep to hold a booking for me until all my points came in (i'm 8k short and know I'd be way over if all my amex points that usually come in on like the 20th of the month were there) and she said she couldn't do it, but who knows if that's because they can't seem to do much of anything with all the IT problems!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 23, 2018, 06:14:32 AM
 New SPG LUX card is live at 100k
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 06:19:39 AM
New SPG LUX card is live at 100k

Link?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 23, 2018, 06:21:24 AM
Link?
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/credit-cards/card-application/apply/starwood-preferred-guest-luxury-card/25330-10-0?applyAsProspect=true&pmccode=1150&intlink=US-Acq-CCSG-Prospect-CardDetails-SPGLuxury-Apply-Top#/

If anyone applies please let me know if they pull or they go off side inquiries.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 06:24:39 AM
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/credit-cards/card-application/apply/starwood-preferred-guest-luxury-card/25330-10-0?applyAsProspect=true&pmccode=1150&intlink=US-Acq-CCSG-Prospect-CardDetails-SPGLuxury-Apply-Top#/

If anyone applies please let me know if they pull or they go off side inquiries.

I’ll be getting it hopefully today.
Was really hoping for a higher bonus
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Denverite on August 23, 2018, 06:26:46 AM
I’ll be getting it hopefully today.
Was really hoping for a higher bonus

If you have the other SPG personal and/or biz card are you inelligible?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 06:32:48 AM
If you have the other SPG personal and/or biz card are you inelligible?

Only after 8/26 I believe
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 23, 2018, 06:41:37 AM
So pathetic that a $450/year card doesn't have better spending benefits.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 23, 2018, 06:43:14 AM
Throwing out the first pitch counted for like 200 nights
:D
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 23, 2018, 06:43:31 AM
@Dan how do you have 15 years of platinum and only 280 nights?
:)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 06:45:04 AM
So pathetic that a $450/year card doesn't have better spending benefits.

Worth getting? Not sure if I want to take a spot on 5/25 when I’m like 3/24 now.

@Dan you signing up?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 06:51:47 AM
Anyone know if “green choice” of 500 SPG points is still 500 or went up to 1500?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 06:59:09 AM
Points from Amex posted
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 23, 2018, 07:12:34 AM
Anyone know if “green choice” of 500 SPG points is still 500 or went up to 1500?
500. :(
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 07:16:37 AM
500. :(
You should post about it and make a big stink
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 23, 2018, 07:18:18 AM
You should post about it and make a big stink
As well as how they should give triple night credits (12?) with the spg cards now.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 07:19:15 AM
As well as how they should give triple night credits (12?) with the spg cards now.

?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: J-town on August 23, 2018, 07:22:18 AM
Points from Amex posted

Same here, but they were not tripled. Statement closed on August 3rd with $34,150 spend and 34,150 points posted to Marriott.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 23, 2018, 07:28:48 AM
Worth getting? Not sure if I want to take a spot on 5/25 when I’m like 3/24 now.

@Dan you signing up?
Good question.
The value proposition is definitely suspect.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 07:34:54 AM
Good question.
The value proposition is definitely suspect.

Time is ticking. Only have 3 days
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 07:35:47 AM
Same here, but they were not tripled. Statement closed on August 3rd with $34,150 spend and 34,150 points posted to Marriott.

I assume some was to be double and some tripled.

My loyalty points were posted 1:1 as was my Amex card spend. Hopefully it’ll be fixed
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: J-town on August 23, 2018, 07:36:56 AM
I assume some was to be double and some tripled.

My loyalty points were posted 1:1 as was my Amex card spend. Hopefully it’ll be fixed

All my spending was from before August 1, it should have all been tripled.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 23, 2018, 08:32:48 AM
:)
i think you can let the cat out of the bag now that SPG is over
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 23, 2018, 08:33:37 AM
i think you can let the cat out of the bag now that SPG is over
Trump still has time to veto the merger ...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 23, 2018, 08:53:35 AM
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/credit-cards/card-application/apply/starwood-preferred-guest-luxury-card/25330-10-0?applyAsProspect=true&pmccode=1150&intlink=US-Acq-CCSG-Prospect-CardDetails-SPGLuxury-Apply-Top#/

If anyone applies please let me know if they pull or they go off side inquiries.
Applied and it’s pending. Recon said they will call me back shortly with an update. They pulled my credit even though they pulled like 2 weeks ago for the aspire :(.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shulem92 on August 23, 2018, 09:26:46 AM
So pathetic that a $450/year card doesn't have better spending benefits.
this practically a copy of the ritz card right now, except that ritz is airline travel whereas this is limited to spg hotels
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Denverite on August 23, 2018, 09:50:18 AM
this practically a copy of the ritz card right now, except that ritz is airline travel whereas this is limited to spg hotels

So if I've never gotten either card would it be better to just get the Ritz?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 23, 2018, 10:04:33 AM
So if I've never gotten either card would it be better to just get the Ritz?
Ritz was discontinued
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 23, 2018, 10:13:54 AM
this practically a copy of the ritz card right now, except that ritz is airline travel whereas this is limited to spg hotels
And Chase doesn't do travel clawbacks.
And Ritz used to give a nice status level at $10K and no longer does.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Naftuli19 on August 23, 2018, 11:29:49 AM
I don't know if its not possible at all but I asked a rep to hold a booking for me until all my points came in (i'm 8k short and know I'd be way over if all my amex points that usually come in on like the 20th of the month were there) and she said she couldn't do it, but who knows if that's because they can't seem to do much of anything with all the IT problems!
Interesting, i spoke to a spg rep and she told me that since not everyones points have been transferred she can hold my booking with a cc...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: @Yehuda on August 23, 2018, 11:33:00 AM
Got the ineligible warning... any chance of approval if I click through? Haven't found any DPs of people trying to click through the warning on this or other cards.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 23, 2018, 11:40:44 AM
Applied and it’s pending. Recon said they will call me back shortly with an update. They pulled my credit even though they pulled like 2 weeks ago for the aspire :(.
Approved!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 23, 2018, 11:41:22 AM
Got the ineligible warning... any chance of approval if I click through? Haven't found any DPs of people trying to click through the warning on this or other cards.
Possible work around DP here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/churning/comments/99ce24/comment/e4o9az1?st=JL6QI74C&sh=9ab07950
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shapsam on August 23, 2018, 11:52:41 AM
Possible work around DP here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/churning/comments/99ce24/comment/e4o9az1?st=JL6QI74C&sh=9ab07950
Link is not working
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 23, 2018, 11:55:00 AM
Link is not working
The link is working. Try one a different browser or device.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shapsam on August 23, 2018, 12:07:02 PM
The link is working. Try one a different browser or device.
I got it, thanks
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 12:18:48 PM
Applied and approved on the spot. They even gave me my card number so I can use it at my SPG hotel this weekend and get the $300 back right away.

Correct me if I am wrong, but all Marriott and SPG cards get 6X per Marriott and SPG stays so it would otherwise not matter which card is used?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: jomaster28 on August 23, 2018, 12:33:53 PM
Does the $300 credit on the Luxury card work similar to the Reserve in the sense that yu can get $300 back this year and then again in 2019 in the beginning of the year?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 12:46:40 PM
Does the $300 credit on the Luxury card work similar to the Reserve in the sense that yu can get $300 back this year and then again in 2019 in the beginning of the year?

No. Card anniversary
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 23, 2018, 12:47:47 PM
No. Card anniversary
wow these credit card companies are becoming smart
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 23, 2018, 12:48:43 PM
wow these credit card companies are becoming smart
The aspire travel credit is per calendar year
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Denverite on August 23, 2018, 12:51:01 PM
Applied and approved on the spot. They even gave me my card number so I can use it at my SPG hotel this weekend and get the $300 back right away.

Correct me if I am wrong, but all Marriott and SPG cards get 6X per Marriott and SPG stays so it would otherwise not matter which card is used?

I had the same quesstion.  Aside from the sign-up bonus, and if I'm already at gold status and none of them can get me to Platinum, what's the benefit of this card?  I'm a Hilton loyalist (I actually earn from large meeting and stay expenses for work and they are way more generous with bonus earning to where I can get often get about 30% back in points) but we do spend some money at SPG hotels and I'm trying to figure out what would be the best card to put that business spend on, basically to keep one card for the annual free night and to use only for SPG expenses.  This high end card, or any of them, don't offer a way to spend up to platinum or spend up to earning an annual second night, right?

It seems like the SPG Biz card also gets 6ppd and will also get gold status at 30k spend, which we will spend at spg properties.  Y'all jumping on this just to get the bonus, free night and put back in the sock drawer?  I want to make sure I'm not missing something.  :D
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 12:53:10 PM


It seems like the SPG Biz card also gets 6ppd and will also get gold status at 30k spend, which we will spend at spg properties.  Y'all jumping on this just to get the bonus, free night and put back in the sock drawer?  I want to make sure I'm not missing something.  :D

Thats what Im doing
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Denverite on August 23, 2018, 12:53:57 PM
The aspire travel credit is per calendar year

This is what is says on Amex website:
With your Hilton Honors American Express Aspire Card, enjoy up to $250 in statement credits each year of Card Membership for eligible purchases at participating Hilton Resorts.

"each year of card membership" means calendar year?  Then I'll make to use it in 2018. :)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: @Yehuda on August 23, 2018, 01:33:41 PM
Possible work around DP here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/churning/comments/99ce24/comment/e4o9az1?st=JL6QI74C&sh=9ab07950
Didn't work, but thank you. Rep wasn't willing to manually apply the offer. Still looking for DP of someone pushing their luck and applying despite getting the warning.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: 12HRS on August 23, 2018, 01:36:11 PM
Didn't work, but thank you. Rep wasn't willing to manually apply the offer. Still looking for DP of someone pushing their luck and applying despite getting the warning.

You only called once?  :o
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 23, 2018, 01:38:40 PM
Didn't work, but thank you. Rep wasn't willing to manually apply the offer. Still looking for DP of someone pushing their luck and applying despite getting the warning.

Why wouldn’t you qualify? It’s a new card
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: moisheyb on August 23, 2018, 01:40:49 PM
Approved for spg lux and marriot premier
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: @Yehuda on August 23, 2018, 01:42:13 PM
Didn't work, but thank you. Rep wasn't willing to manually apply the offer. Still looking for DP of someone pushing their luck and applying despite getting the warning.
Found 1 DP so far that was negative: https://www.doctorofcredit.com/american-express-spg-luxury-card-now-live-3-day-loophole-working/#comment-632925
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: @Yehuda on August 23, 2018, 01:43:26 PM
You only called once?  :o
It took 17 minutes to apply on the phone. Can't do that all day.

Why wouldn’t you qualify? It’s a new card
The official warning listed a lot of reasons aside from having the card before - history with amex welcome offers, apr offers, number of cards opened/closed.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 23, 2018, 02:13:17 PM
Didn't work, but thank you. Rep wasn't willing to manually apply the offer. Still looking for DP of someone pushing their luck and applying despite getting the warning.
That’s what HUCA is for
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 23, 2018, 02:14:52 PM
I had the same quesstion.  Aside from the sign-up bonus, and if I'm already at gold status and none of them can get me to Platinum, what's the benefit of this card?  I'm a Hilton loyalist (I actually earn from large meeting and stay expenses for work and they are way more generous with bonus earning to where I can get often get about 30% back in points) but we do spend some money at SPG hotels and I'm trying to figure out what would be the best card to put that business spend on, basically to keep one card for the annual free night and to use only for SPG expenses.  This high end card, or any of them, don't offer a way to spend up to platinum or spend up to earning an annual second night, right?

It seems like the SPG Biz card also gets 6ppd and will also get gold status at 30k spend, which we will spend at spg properties.  Y'all jumping on this just to get the bonus, free night and put back in the sock drawer?  I want to make sure I'm not missing something.  :D
Doesn’t the Lux offer platinum at 75k spend?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on August 23, 2018, 02:21:00 PM
:)
i think you can let the cat out of the bag now that SPG is over
This is better than the answers (or lack thereof) given for all the GS questions
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: @Yehuda on August 23, 2018, 02:21:16 PM
That’s what HUCA is for
It took 17 minutes to apply on the phone. Can't do that all day.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 23, 2018, 11:23:18 PM
Per Gary (https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2018/08/23/marriott-honors-mistake-award-rate-at-st-regis-maldives-and-how-much-an-overwater-bungalow-should-now-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-4821285), the St Regis rates were a mistake and Marriott intends to honor them. Overwater villa now prices at 110k MT more than the standard room a night
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Ergel on August 24, 2018, 12:47:57 AM
Uchhh. Was waiting to reserve for next August, which was past EOS.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on August 24, 2018, 02:03:57 AM
I assume some was to be double and some tripled.

My loyalty points were posted 1:1 as was my Amex card spend. Hopefully it’ll be fixed
Same here.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yaalili on August 24, 2018, 07:13:44 AM
Was trying to make a transfer Marriott > Airline multiple times yesterday, and it did not work. It brought me to the transfer page to enter information, though when I hit “confirm” it would error out.

Called Marriott about it last night, after being on hold for 40+ minutes, I was told the transfers are all down and they don’t expect it back up till mid next week, at the earliest.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CZ60 on August 24, 2018, 07:25:00 AM
Uchhh. Was waiting to reserve for next August, which was past EOS.
Rainy season, go to bora instead!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 24, 2018, 08:03:47 AM
Rainy season, go to bora instead!
for 800k for 5 nights. No thank you
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 24, 2018, 08:04:40 AM
BTW the united link is working but you need to be platinum premier so Congrats to all those who got it with platinum elite
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on August 24, 2018, 08:19:18 AM
If you want to go on August you can find decent deals where you can use 40/50k csr points a night and get yourself a really nice ow bungalow.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 24, 2018, 08:21:07 AM
If you want to go on August you can find decent deals where you can use 40/50k csr points a night and get yourself a really nice ow bungalow.
Such as the nice Anantara
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: @Yehuda on August 24, 2018, 08:56:09 AM
BTW the united link is working but you need to be platinum premier so Congrats to all those who got it with platinum elite
United didn't work before the merger? SPG plat > Marriott plat > UA silver?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on August 24, 2018, 09:13:03 AM
United platinum Premier > UA silver [now]
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 24, 2018, 09:48:19 AM
United didn't work before the merger? SPG plat > Marriott plat > UA silver?
before the merger SPG plat = Marriott plat which equaled United silver. Now SPG plat = Marriott platinum elite which does not get United silver.

When the link first came out though before it broke they were giving out UA silver for platinum elite.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: maxmiles on August 24, 2018, 10:33:50 AM
Anyone else having a hard time getting the points refunded? I booked SR Maldives pre merger because Dan was saying to lock up the dates. However i mustve called 25 times this week to get the points refunded and they keep saying i cant get it refunded if the rooms aren't available. I thought the whole point to booking pre merger was that we would be getting the addtl miles refunded while at the same time locking in the days we wanted.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 24, 2018, 10:36:55 AM
Anyone else having a hard time getting the points refunded? I booked SR Maldives pre merger because Dan was saying to lock up the dates. However i mustve called 25 times this week to get the points refunded and they keep saying i cant get it refunded if the rooms aren't available. I thought the whole point to booking pre merger was that we would be getting the addtl miles refunded while at the same time locking in the days we wanted.
youre not the only one. No one got any refunds yet. It is taking longer than expected to get the system working
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: maxmiles on August 24, 2018, 10:44:52 AM
youre not the only one. No one got any refunds yet. It is taking longer than expected to get the system working
Thanks, as long as it will happen i dont mind. But aside from Dan i haven't seen anything that says they will refund the difference
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 24, 2018, 10:48:06 AM
Thanks, as long as it will happen i dont mind. But aside from Dan i haven't seen anything that says they will refund the difference
I quoted it from a post from Starwood Lurker.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: maxmiles on August 24, 2018, 10:52:27 AM
I quoted it from a post from Starwood Lurker.
Got it, hopefully it stays true- thanks!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 24, 2018, 10:53:05 AM
Thanks, as long as it will happen i dont mind. But aside from Dan i haven't seen anything that says they will refund the difference
what room type did you book?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 24, 2018, 10:53:06 AM
I quoted it from a post from Starwood Lurker.
Who also said floating certificates would be converted to points. The other lurker.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: @Yehuda on August 24, 2018, 10:54:07 AM
before the merger SPG plat = Marriott plat which equaled United silver. Now SPG plat = Marriott platinum elite which does not get United silver.

When the link first came out though before it broke they were giving out UA silver for platinum elite.
Aha. So why didn't you link this all before the merger?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: maxmiles on August 24, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
what room type did you book?
OWB, funny thing is after spending the 810k for the 3 nights i only had 200k (Marriott) left  which was 70k short. However post merger i was able to snag the next day at 80k (the original 3 nights werent available to redo)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 24, 2018, 11:01:36 AM
OWB, funny thing is after spending the 810k for the 3 nights i only had 200k (Marriott) left  which was 70k short. However post merger i was able to snag the next day at 80k (the original 3 nights werent available to redo)
well it looks like it will reprice at 170k a night if you got the garden villa that would reprice at 60K
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 24, 2018, 11:03:19 AM
Aha. So why didn't you link this all before the merger?
I did for mine since I was plat before the merger. Some people (like my wife) became plat after the merger (just for having the Ritz card) but were only platinum elite and not able to get UA silver unless they did it in the short original window where the link was open
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: @Yehuda on August 24, 2018, 11:04:46 AM
I did for mine since I was plat before the merger. Some people (like my wife) became plat after the merger (just for having the Ritz card) but were only platinum elite and not able to get UA silver unless they did it in the short original window where the link was open
Understood.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: maxmiles on August 24, 2018, 11:05:55 AM
well it looks like it will reprice at 170k a night if you got the garden villa that would reprice at 60K
Its prob still worth it unless the upgrade is cheap, not going to go all the way there unless i am in a OWB
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on August 24, 2018, 11:43:49 AM
Does any one know how United and Marriot "talk" regarding status match [Marriot PP > United Silver]. Is it yearly, once you have it its lifetime or it's a all the time system match?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on August 24, 2018, 12:19:17 PM
170k a night is way over priced.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 24, 2018, 12:22:59 PM
170k a night is way over priced.
it used to be 270K for a garden and 330K for OWB so not really. If you combine it with 5th not free its a pretty good deal. But obviously not as good as 85K a night
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on August 24, 2018, 12:27:46 PM
And it used to be even more overpriced lol. Its 680k for a 5 night stay. You can trade 380k for hilton and get a 5 night stay there or just use csr points and book a owv with a pool for between 60 and 80k a night. Just my opinion...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 24, 2018, 12:39:02 PM
And it used to be even more overpriced lol. Its 680k for a 5 night stay. You can trade 380k for hilton and get a 5 night stay there or just use csr points and book a owv with a pool for between 60 and 80k a night. Just my opinion...
400K UR is more expensive than 680K marriott by a lot so I dont know what you are talking about.

The Conrad is a great deal. But you cannot compare a Conrad to a St. Regis for the most part.

Again Im not saying its a bargain but its much better than it was before.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on August 24, 2018, 12:43:19 PM
You win :) just throwing out some other ideas. For me marriott are more valuable since its really easy to earn chase points so unless im getting a great value out of them i rather get a bad value out of the ur points. To each their own
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 24, 2018, 12:57:23 PM
400K UR is more expensive than 680K marriott by a lot so I dont know what you are talking about.

The Conrad is a great deal. But you cannot compare a Conrad to a St. Regis for the most part.

Again Im not saying its a bargain but its much better than it was before.

+1. Compare to paid rates. Str is ~$1500 a night for the water villa. So you can get a value or ~1 cent per marriott point, which is ok but not amazing. @ 85k it is amazing, especially when combined w 5th night free.

Conrad water villas are around half the price.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on August 24, 2018, 01:06:36 PM
If conrad water villas are half that at $750 then it's 250k ur for a 5 night stay. The str is nicer but conrad is not a motel 6 and for half the price...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: GAM Z. on August 24, 2018, 02:47:37 PM
Does any one know how United and Marriot "talk" regarding status match [Marriot PP > United Silver]. Is it yearly, once you have it its lifetime or it's a all the time system match?
The match lasts until February of the next year. 
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 24, 2018, 03:53:37 PM
If conrad water villas are half that at $750 then it's 250k ur for a 5 night stay. The str is nicer but conrad is not a motel 6 and for half the price...

Not sure if CSR can book hilton member rates/flash sales...

But STR is half the size and more luxurious, so I would expect it to be significantly more expensive.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Denverite on August 24, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Does anyone know what the new Marriott policy (or the old one for that matter) will be for transferring points to other people?  SPG used to be anyone who had the same home address for 30 days.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 24, 2018, 04:18:57 PM
Does anyone know what the new Marriott policy (or the old one for that matter) will be for transferring points to other people?  SPG used to be anyone who had the same home address for 30 days.
100k to complete award, for what I’ve been told. 50k otherwise. Not sure if they have lighter family restrictions but I doubt it’s as generous as spg.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 24, 2018, 04:29:15 PM
Bad news RE the SR in MLE OWBs are 170k a night and you only get a discount for the 5th night. No 5th night free. So it will be 790K for 5 nights. This is the same way SR BOB is pricing. Congrats to all those who booked at the cheaper rates.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Denverite on August 24, 2018, 04:33:38 PM
100k to complete award, for what I’ve been told. 50k otherwise. Not sure if they have lighter family restrictions but I doubt it’s as generous as spg.

Meaning you can move up to 100k or a 100k minimum and only to get you up to enough to complete an award, so they will only do it while you are also booking an award?  Just want to make sure I understand.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 24, 2018, 04:36:46 PM
Meaning you can move up to 100k or a 100k minimum and only to get you up to enough to complete an award, so they will only do it while you are also booking an award?  Just want to make sure I understand.
My understanding, but I'm not sure that there systems can do it yet and am not sure my understanding is correct, is that you can move the maximum necessary to complete an award, up to 100k, once a calendar year either to or from an account. I'm sure some of what I said is wrong, but I don't think Marriott is going to be as generous as it was in the past.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CS1 on August 24, 2018, 04:43:43 PM
Bad news RE the SR in MLE OWBs are 170k a night and you only get a discount for the 5th night. No 5th night free. So it will be 790K for 5 nights. This is the same way SR BOB is pricing. Congrats to all those who booked at the cheaper rates.

wish I had booked this at the beginning of the week. I had hoped that it would last at least until August 31.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on August 24, 2018, 04:44:41 PM
wish I had booked this at the beginning of the week. I had hoped that it would last at least until August 31.
I ended up buying points Bc I couldn’t get my  certificates refunded in time. But happy I didn’t wait
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Ergel on August 25, 2018, 05:12:47 PM
If you want to go on August you can find decent deals where you can use 40/50k csr points a night and get yourself a really nice ow bungalow.
Interesting. Maybe worth it to with prestige fourth night free
I guess I'll need to research hotels
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Z56 on August 25, 2018, 11:05:26 PM
Bad news RE the SR in MLE OWBs are 170k a night and you only get a discount for the 5th night. No 5th night free. So it will be 790K for 5 nights. This is the same way SR BOB is pricing. Congrats to all those who booked at the cheaper rates.

If anyone booked and isn’t going to use them. Please PM me
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: thaber on August 26, 2018, 02:33:15 AM
before the merger SPG plat = Marriott plat which equaled United silver. Now SPG plat = Marriott platinum elite which does not get United silver.

When the link first came out though before it broke they were giving out UA silver for platinum elite.
Link now works it seems https://mrrewardsplus.com/en_US
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on August 26, 2018, 10:33:54 PM
If anyone booked and isn’t going to use them. Please PM me
I have a 5 night stay I probably wont use. PM
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 26, 2018, 11:58:58 PM
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/marriott-improves-new-travel-packages-110000-miles-vs-100000/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2018, 09:33:02 AM
Looks like a mistake to me.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: YesThatsMe on August 27, 2018, 01:04:28 PM
Any DP on SPG Amex points posting to the merged account? Waiting over a week already.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: normathej on August 27, 2018, 01:05:41 PM
I just got my SPG card points from my closing statement on aug 16, in my Marriott account today.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: YesThatsMe on August 27, 2018, 01:09:37 PM
Wow. Mine closed on Aug. 17, so will check tomorrow I guess.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CS1 on August 27, 2018, 01:31:54 PM
I just got my SPG card points from my closing statement on aug 16, in my Marriott account today.

did they automatically triple the points? And was your SPG account already merged/linked to your Marriott acct?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: normathej on August 27, 2018, 01:41:41 PM
did they automatically triple the points? And was your SPG account already merged/linked to your Marriott acct?

Merged accounts Thursday of last week.  I got base points equal to (1) 1 point for charges on statement prior to aug 1 and 2x points for charges after aug 1, plus (2) base spend adjustment equal to 2x spend prior to aug 1, so yes, they did.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yitzshpitz on August 27, 2018, 02:03:50 PM
Past what date does the af have to post to be eligible for anniversary night for this year?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2018, 02:05:09 PM
Past what date does the af have to post to be eligible for anniversary night for this year?
8/1
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Z56 on August 27, 2018, 02:11:38 PM
8/1

where do i find the free night certificate in my account 
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2018, 02:15:37 PM
Takes 8-12 weeks.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: TAVI on August 28, 2018, 12:18:50 AM
Do the new Platinum level benefits apply to all the SPG brand hotels (like Sheraton, SR, Le Meridien, Westin) now? how about Ritz hotels?

Mainly asking about upgrades, breakfast / lounge, late checkout.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on August 28, 2018, 12:22:21 AM
Do the new Platinum level benefits apply to all the SPG brand hotels (like Sheraton, SR, Le Meridien, Westin) now? how about Ritz hotels?

Mainly asking about upgrades, breakfast / lounge, late checkout.
they were applied from when the merger took place last year. All benefits apply the only change is that to get a suite at the ritz you need platinum premier or higher also no one gets breakfast at ritz
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: TAVI on August 28, 2018, 01:28:57 AM
they were applied from when the merger took place last year. All benefits apply the only change is that to get a suite at the ritz you need platinum premier or higher also no one gets breakfast at ritz

Thanks for the prompt response.
Seems really odd that Ritz gets such preferential treatment, but St Regis has to provide breakfast / lounge benefits.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: bb_sam on August 28, 2018, 10:27:12 PM
Has anyone who cancelled an award booking actually seen their points credited/deposited back into their account.  It seems this issue has been a problem since day 1 --- unfortunately, I've been waiting for 12 days without my points being returned to my account.  They started saying it would take 7-10 days, yesterday they told me 5-10 business days -- today they said they don't have any idea when the issue will be resolved. 
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Denverite on August 29, 2018, 04:50:37 PM
Has anyone who cancelled an award booking actually seen their points credited/deposited back into their account.  It seems this issue has been a problem since day 1 --- unfortunately, I've been waiting for 12 days without my points being returned to my account.  They started saying it would take 7-10 days, yesterday they told me 5-10 business days -- today they said they don't have any idea when the issue will be resolved.

Wow, that really sucks, sorry to hear that...hope they refund it soon.  I have to say, I'm not normally a complainer, I did hope I would be able to use my Ritz Cat 1-3 week cert at some better hotels but I wasn't actually angry about that piece as I can still get great value out of it.  This kind of thing you are describing actually really bothers me though.  They didn't train their phone reps AT ALL...when I called for help linking my two accounts (online kept giving me an error) so I could use my total balance under the new number, once I finally figured it out and linked them with the new Rewards number she gave me (that they NEVER emailed me or notified me of in ANY WAY), the rep literally asked me what I did (I used the new Marriott Rewards number but my old SPG password not my marriott password because I guess they consider me a legacy SPG client) because she wanted to write it down because she said I was the FIRST person that had called in that was actually successful to link the accounts and see all the points together!!!!  Is that normal CSR training??  :o

I know these are huge companies and the IT issues are difficult but I am really disappointed in this integration and their total lack of INTERNAL communication with their reps as well as the actual roll-out of services to actual clients.  I'm happy to have just used up my points on a great one-time redemption (at st. regis current Cat 7 going up in January for basically 80k SPG for 5 nights) but then I think I'm basically totally done with SPG and back to solely focusing on Hilton.  I actually spend a lot of hotel dollars for work and Hilton by far provides the best earning and redemptions for me personally but I'm curious what you guys that only get points from churning, MS and normal spend are planning to do for hotels.  What company are you moving toward for accruals?  Or just book Hyatts with UR transfers or use UR points at their 1.5% value?  If any of you have any good post merger hotel points strategies I'd love to hear them.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on August 30, 2018, 01:11:09 AM
Hilton followed by Hyatt.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 30, 2018, 05:31:27 AM
Anyone have there’s points balance change but no information regarding it in recent activity?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Amusch on August 30, 2018, 09:35:34 AM
I assume the answer is no, but is there even a 1% chance SPG will give any points back to someone ( ::)) who booked a stay for the first week of August at a hotel that has since been devalued?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yakrot on August 30, 2018, 09:37:52 AM
Anyone have there’s points balance change but no information regarding it in recent activity?
I have the same thing value of my account went up 60k points I can’t figure out where it’s from
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yitzshpitz on August 30, 2018, 11:13:48 AM
So if I upgrade to the spg luxury card after i paid the af (after august 1) will i still receive the free night from spg preferred?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on August 30, 2018, 11:32:22 AM
I can’t seem to find where this has been discussed, but doesn’t upgrading my Marriott card set me back another 24 months?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on August 30, 2018, 01:49:32 PM
Has anyone who cancelled an award booking actually seen their points credited/deposited back into their account.  It seems this issue has been a problem since day 1 --- unfortunately, I've been waiting for 12 days without my points being returned to my account.  They started saying it would take 7-10 days, yesterday they told me 5-10 business days -- today they said they don't have any idea when the issue will be resolved.

Just spoke to someone now. They said that my cancellation created certificates, in my case 90k certificates as it was for the SRBH, that are just floating around in my account and she was able to see them but because they have "system issues" they cant be cancelled and redeposited just yet.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on September 02, 2018, 12:28:11 PM
I thought that only 15 night credits would be posted regardless of how many cards you have? Is this different for 2018? I had 10 night credits from SPG (2 amex cards) which posted together with the additional 15 from Marriott for a total of 25 nights from CCs. Is this an error?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on September 02, 2018, 01:36:08 PM
I thought that only 15 night credits would be posted regardless of how many cards you have? Is this different for 2018? I had 10 night credits from SPG (2 amex cards) which posted together with the additional 15 from Marriott for a total of 25 nights from CCs. Is this an error?
when did it post?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on September 02, 2018, 01:55:58 PM
when did it post?

As soon as my accounts merged.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on September 02, 2018, 01:58:46 PM
As soon as my accounts merged.
if you had nights pre merger they stayed. New nights you will only get 15 per year
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on September 02, 2018, 02:01:45 PM
if you had nights pre merger they stayed. New nights you will only get 15 per year

So you don’t think it’s a mistake?
They transferred to Marriott as 10 “paid nights”
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on September 02, 2018, 02:08:32 PM
So you don’t think it’s a mistake?
They transferred to Marriott as 10 “paid nights”
no it's not a mistake
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on September 02, 2018, 02:37:01 PM
no it's not a mistake

Now I need to gun 12 more nights  ::)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on September 02, 2018, 02:54:33 PM
Just got bumped up from Plat to Plat Premier.
Still no idea what I'm supposed to be, but I'll take it.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on September 02, 2018, 02:59:47 PM
Just got bumped up from Plat to Plat Premier.
Still no idea what I'm supposed to be, but I'll take it.
based on the screenshots you posted on DDMS you should be a basic member
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on September 02, 2018, 03:01:24 PM
based on the screenshots you posted on DDMS you should be a basic member
(https://i.gyazo.com/d59141b62cfa86f57b756ce54f3115e6.png)
(https://i.gyazo.com/84169d08acfcd918aade0c81015dcf3c.png)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on September 02, 2018, 04:15:15 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/d59141b62cfa86f57b756ce54f3115e6.png)
(https://i.gyazo.com/84169d08acfcd918aade0c81015dcf3c.png)

How many nights did you have this year?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on September 02, 2018, 04:17:18 PM
Can the Premier Visa Anniv. 1 Free Nt up to 25,000 Points be converted to points?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on September 02, 2018, 05:05:09 PM
Just got bumped up from Plat to Plat Premier.
Still no idea what I'm supposed to be, but I'll take it.
I was Marriott Gold after losing Platinum last year, now it shows I am Platinum , is this what it is supposed to be?  A friend was Marriott Gold because of the SPG gold status from credit card, status is showing Gold?? Why not Platinum like me?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on September 02, 2018, 05:05:24 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/d59141b62cfa86f57b756ce54f3115e6.png)
(https://i.gyazo.com/84169d08acfcd918aade0c81015dcf3c.png)
like I said 280 nights over 19 years is less than 15 a year
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: bb_sam on September 03, 2018, 01:45:41 PM
Has anyone who cancelled an award booking actually seen their points credited/deposited back into their account.  It seems this issue has been a problem since day 1 --- unfortunately, I've been waiting for 12 days without my points being returned to my account.  They started saying it would take 7-10 days, yesterday they told me 5-10 business days -- today they said they don't have any idea when the issue will be resolved.

By way of update, I called and spoke to a supervisor.  She was able to go into the old legacy SPG system to find and move over the points from my cancelled reservation.  This is an issue that they're still trying to solve but she did this manual workaround for me. 
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on September 03, 2018, 06:06:53 PM
My daughter moved her points from SPG to Marriott , we were thinking she'll be Platinum, she ended up with Gold, if I knew I would have transferred her 800000 points from her SPG to mine , since I ended up as Platinum. Is it too late to do anything to transfer her points to my account? I know Marriott allows 50k only.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on September 03, 2018, 06:10:07 PM
My daughter moved her points from SPG to Marriott , we were thinking she'll be Platinum, she ended up with Gold, if I knew I would have transferred her 800000 points from her SPG to mine , since I ended up as Platinum. Is it too late to do anything to transfer her points to my account? I know Marriott allows 50k only.
New limit is 100k. Havnt read many DP’s but perhaps try the booking trip where you “want” to use your daughters points to complete a booking.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on September 04, 2018, 03:10:03 AM
Thanks!!
Let us know if it works.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on September 04, 2018, 07:15:00 AM
New limit is 100k. Havnt read many DP’s but perhaps try the booking trip where you “want” to use your daughters points to complete a booking.

Can the transfer be done online or still needs to be called in?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on September 04, 2018, 07:16:25 AM
Anyone seeing any activity post 8/25 on there account?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: maxmiles on September 05, 2018, 10:46:02 AM
Anyone else having a hard time getting the points refunded? I booked SR Maldives pre merger because Dan was saying to lock up the dates. However i mustve called 25 times this week to get the points refunded and they keep saying i cant get it refunded if the rooms aren't available. I thought the whole point to booking pre merger was that we would be getting the addtl miles refunded while at the same time locking in the days we wanted.
Just an update here, its been 10-14 days since i tried getting the credit back, i had some time yesterday and decided to give it a shot. Got on the phone with a great rep, it took over an hour to do but she was finally able to redo the booking at 170k miles at night thereby refunding 100k per night. She had to do each night individually to pull it off. Its not the 60-80k per night that i wanted but i think ill still keep it. Bear in mind that the dates showed sold out online, so she was obviously able to do a work around. Good luck
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: hokiegl on September 05, 2018, 10:54:37 AM
I did a point to miles transfer just now. 180,000 Marriott points to 60,000 miles. But nowhere in the process does it show the 15,000 extra MR I am supposed to get during the transfer. There is no email or indication on the website of the transfer other then the lower MR balance. Has anyone done this yet? Do they add the extra miles during the transfer?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehudaa on September 05, 2018, 03:53:05 PM
https://thepointsguy.com/news/marriott-updated-terms-conditions/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on September 05, 2018, 03:55:44 PM
https://thepointsguy.com/news/marriott-updated-terms-conditions/
SR MLE is not on the list
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehudaa on September 05, 2018, 04:01:46 PM
SR MLE is not on the list
Right. But per TPG:

....section 3.2.f. (which I’ve bolded): “Point values are based on a standard room only (does not apply to premium room) and may vary by length of stay and hotel category.” ....Hopefully we won’t start to see these properties playing games with categorizing all of their accommodations as “premium rooms".
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on September 06, 2018, 12:30:32 AM
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I got Platinum Elite, was told after a long hold with a clueless rep that it is only good till Feb or March 2019 ? He said this applies to status given to all members . Makes no sense that it applies to all members??
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on September 06, 2018, 12:55:07 AM
I got Platinum Elite, was told after a long hold with a clueless rep that it is only good till Feb or March 2019 ? He said this applies to status given to all members . Makes no sense that it applies to all members??
Of course not, he obviously was confused, not that I blame him, MT continues to be a mess. If true at all, it's probably referring to people who got it through SPG gold.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on September 06, 2018, 01:30:03 AM
Of course not, he obviously was confused, not that I blame him, MT continues to be a mess. If true at all, it's probably referring to people who got it through SPG gold.
That is what confused me, I was this year Marriott Gold from Marriott stays not from SPG gold , previous year was Platinum.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on September 06, 2018, 01:42:44 AM
That is what confused me, I was this year Marriott Gold from Marriott stays not from SPG gold , previous year was Platinum.
Same thing.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on September 06, 2018, 09:55:59 AM
Of course not, he obviously was confused, not that I blame him, MT continues to be a mess. If true at all, it's probably referring to people who got it through SPG gold.
So people who got it through SPG gold are supposed to be Platinum? I thought Gold?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on September 06, 2018, 10:35:20 AM
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Just had 10 lifetime nights clawed back.

Did yours go down too?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on September 06, 2018, 10:37:50 AM
Just had 10 lifetime nights clawed back.

Did yours go down too?
My account was just adjusted to reflect the actual YTD amount, it was wrong from the 18.
They initially had it @ 68 and they just changed it to 72.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mmgfarb on September 06, 2018, 10:38:57 AM
Just had 10 lifetime nights clawed back.

Did yours go down too?
https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-lifetime-nights/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on September 06, 2018, 10:40:11 AM
Just had 10 lifetime nights clawed back.

Did yours go down too?
Mine, too! But I think it was from earlier this year that they never clawed back... My points balance jumped by 50k points, too for some reason. Not sure why. Nothing in account activity. I wish they kept the SPG ratio. I hate that everything is times 3 now. Makes it more confusing to keep track.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on September 06, 2018, 10:41:01 AM
Just had 10 lifetime nights clawed back.

Did yours go down too?
I lost 50
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on September 06, 2018, 10:43:47 AM
Mine, too! But I think it was from earlier this year that they never clawed back... My points balance jumped by 50k points, too for some reason. Not sure why. Nothing in account activity. I wish they kept the SPG ratio. I hate that everything is times 3 now. Makes it more confusing to keep track.
How many?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on September 06, 2018, 10:43:58 AM
I lost 50
Wow!
Any idea why?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on September 06, 2018, 10:50:14 AM
How many?
I'm not sure. I have 46 now, I think it said 56 before. But it may have been 52. I don't have a screenshot.... I checked... My points balance increased by about 10-15,000. I don't remember exactly how much it was before..
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on September 06, 2018, 10:59:43 AM
Wow!
Any idea why?
nope
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on September 06, 2018, 11:02:55 AM
Probably just an IT error.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on September 06, 2018, 11:05:33 AM
Probably just an IT error.
The previous number or the new number :P
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on September 06, 2018, 11:15:12 AM
The previous number or the new number :P
I don't even know, that's how confusing this whole merger is.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Ergel on September 06, 2018, 11:15:26 AM
Quote from: lucky
I do wonder if this was their plan all along, or if they now feel that they have too many lifetime elite members, and they were looking for ways to decrease those numbers.
That would be insane. But I don't put it past them
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on September 06, 2018, 05:59:15 PM
DP for who ever this would help: I spent the 75k for Plat on Ritz by July 5th. Status never changed even after 8 weeks and no matter how many times I called Chase or Marriott they kept on blaming the other and it would lead to nothing. A couple day ago I had enough of it and called Chase one more time and kept on pushing and pushing till they agreed to call Marriott and sort it out while I was on the line. They did just that but only was able to upgrade me to Platinum Elite. I told them since I met the spend before the merger I should be getting Platinum Preferred Elite and they said they will start a case as all she can do is upgrade at most to Plat Elite. Took a couple days and following up and some arguing but finally have Platinum Preferred Elite!

How this helps you is that if you at one point during the Merger you were Plat elite, even if it was just for a day, and then revered to Gold elite call in and ask to be transferred to the appropriate department that handles status upgrades and downgrades and tell them it was a glitch that downgraded you and you'd like to request an upgrade up to Plat Elite. I was Plat Elite for that one day during Aug 18 and she was able to see that and claim that she does not know why they downgraded it but she can easily upgrade it... Good luck and as always HUCA
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yakrot on September 06, 2018, 06:17:47 PM
DP for who ever this would help: I spent the 75k for Plat on Ritz by July 5th. Status never changed even after 8 weeks and no matter how many times I called Chase or Marriott they kept on blaming the other and it would lead to nothing. A couple day ago I had enough of it and called Chase one more time and kept on pushing and pushing till they agreed to call Marriott and sort it out while I was on the line. They did just that but only was able to upgrade me to Platinum Elite. I told them since I met the spend before the merger I should be getting Platinum Preferred Elite and they said they will start a case as all she can do is upgrade at most to Plat Elite. Took a couple days and following up and some arguing but finally have Platinum Preferred Elite!

How this helps you is that if you at one point during the Merger you were Plat elite, even if it was just for a day, and then revered to Gold elite call in and ask to be transferred to the appropriate department that handles status upgrades and downgrades and tell them it was a glitch that downgraded you and you'd like to request an upgrade up to Plat Elite. I was Plat Elite for that one day during Aug 18 and she was able to see that and claim that she does not know why they downgraded it but she can easily upgrade it... Good luck and as always HUCA
This might help me as I spent 10k on my ritz to get gold elite prior to the merger. Was hoping it would upgrade to platinum it did not. When I called I was told that the spend earned from spending on my ritz will not help to upgrade me even after the switch over. They claim if my gold elite was earned from spend on the ritz I remain gold elite after
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on September 06, 2018, 09:07:27 PM
DP for who ever this would help: I spent the 75k for Plat on Ritz by July 5th. Status never changed even after 8 weeks and no matter how many times I called Chase or Marriott they kept on blaming the other and it would lead to nothing. A couple day ago I had enough of it and called Chase one more time and kept on pushing and pushing till they agreed to call Marriott and sort it out while I was on the line. They did just that but only was able to upgrade me to Platinum Elite. I told them since I met the spend before the merger I should be getting Platinum Preferred Elite and they said they will start a case as all she can do is upgrade at most to Plat Elite. Took a couple days and following up and some arguing but finally have Platinum Preferred Elite!

How this helps you is that if you at one point during the Merger you were Plat elite, even if it was just for a day, and then revered to Gold elite call in and ask to be transferred to the appropriate department that handles status upgrades and downgrades and tell them it was a glitch that downgraded you and you'd like to request an upgrade up to Plat Elite. I was Plat Elite for that one day during Aug 18 and she was able to see that and claim that she does not know why they downgraded it but she can easily upgrade it... Good luck and as always HUCA

What number did you call?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on September 06, 2018, 09:08:44 PM
Did any one have any luck attaching a Tier 4-5 Cert to a Cat 7  SPG property?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shulem92 on September 06, 2018, 09:10:07 PM
This might help me as I spent 10k on my ritz to get gold elite prior to the merger. Was hoping it would upgrade to platinum it did not. When I called I was told that the spend earned from spending on my ritz will not help to upgrade me even after the switch over. They claim if my gold elite was earned from spend on the ritz I remain gold elite after
i got plat elite, and the only reason i can think of was because i spent 10k on ritz last year
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shulem92 on September 06, 2018, 09:12:16 PM
my points from my amex cards finally posted in my marriott account activity (from july and august), but my actual balance never went up...
anyone else having this issue?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on September 06, 2018, 09:43:33 PM
What number did you call?
Number on back of Ritz for the Elite line: (888) 696-0394
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on September 06, 2018, 09:46:07 PM
Number on back of Ritz for the Elite line: (888) 696-0394

Long wait?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on September 06, 2018, 09:47:41 PM
Long wait?
When I called it was a LONG time. Chase guy was on hold with me for all of it lol
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on September 06, 2018, 10:54:55 PM
So people who got it through SPG gold are supposed to be Platinum? I thought Gold?
Gold not Platinum.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on September 06, 2018, 11:02:57 PM
DP for who ever this would help: I spent the 75k for Plat on Ritz by July 5th. Status never changed even after 8 weeks and no matter how many times I called Chase or Marriott they kept on blaming the other and it would lead to nothing. A couple day ago I had enough of it and called Chase one more time and kept on pushing and pushing till they agreed to call Marriott and sort it out while I was on the line. They did just that but only was able to upgrade me to Platinum Elite. I told them since I met the spend before the merger I should be getting Platinum Preferred Elite and they said they will start a case as all she can do is upgrade at most to Plat Elite. Took a couple days and following up and some arguing but finally have Platinum Preferred Elite!

How this helps you is that if you at one point during the Merger you were Plat elite, even if it was just for a day, and then revered to Gold elite call in and ask to be transferred to the appropriate department that handles status upgrades and downgrades and tell them it was a glitch that downgraded you and you'd like to request an upgrade up to Plat Elite. I was Plat Elite for that one day during Aug 18 and she was able to see that and claim that she does not know why they downgraded it but she can easily upgrade it... Good luck and as always HUCA
From which date to which date shall I check my Marriott platinum status, before it was downgraded to Gold?  TIA
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on September 07, 2018, 10:05:33 AM
Just booked srm for 240k for 5 nights
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on September 07, 2018, 10:06:22 AM
Just booked srm for 240k for 5 nights
which room?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CS1 on September 07, 2018, 10:07:21 AM
Just booked srm for 240k for 5 nights

is it pay for 4 nights, and the 5th night is free?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on September 07, 2018, 10:19:01 AM
Beach villa hope to get upgraded or pay for owv for 2 of the nights...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on September 07, 2018, 02:01:57 PM
is it pay for 4 nights, and the 5th night is free?
Yes
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on September 07, 2018, 02:02:27 PM
From which date to which date shall I check my Marriott platinum status, before it was downgraded to Gold?  TIA
Don’t think I fully understand the question.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on September 07, 2018, 02:03:41 PM
Just spoke to someone now. They said that my cancellation created certificates, in my case 90k certificates as it was for the SRBH, that are just floating around in my account and she was able to see them but because they have "system issues" they cant be cancelled and redeposited just yet.
This was refunded to me a couple days ago with no notice... for those who also had their points in Limbo
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shulem92 on September 07, 2018, 02:04:59 PM
finally SRM is bookable online!! 240k for 5 nights
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on September 07, 2018, 02:44:50 PM
Beach villa hope to get upgraded or pay for owv for 2 of the nights...
Beach Villa is a more expensive room than the overwater villa Are you sure that is what you got?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shulem92 on September 07, 2018, 02:58:15 PM
Beach villa hope to get upgraded or pay for owv for 2 of the nights...
how did you get beach villa for 60k?
Beach Villa is a more expensive room than the overwater villa Are you sure that is what you got?
he probably meant garden villa
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on September 07, 2018, 05:17:27 PM
I was just looking over my card statements from August, and I realized my card was charged for an award stay at the beginning of August. I had to call them up and have them refund it. What would've have happened if I didn't notice?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Ergel on September 08, 2018, 03:53:17 PM
Anyone know what the buy up to an OWB at the W is? Also, Marriott app says that the points reservation at the W is non refundable?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: isac on September 09, 2018, 12:57:48 AM
Does Plat premier status carry to 2019 or need to requalify?
soft landing to Plat?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Wizmanison on September 09, 2018, 06:27:25 AM
Anyone know what the buy up to an OWB at the W is? Also, Marriott app says that the points reservation at the W is non refundable?
My reservation is refundable up till 2 weeks before the date of reservation.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on September 09, 2018, 08:05:06 AM
account activity finally updated.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: RafLip on September 12, 2018, 11:31:33 AM
Been reading back a few pages, with same household transfers gone from the SPG website, any way to combine (free pref) my points with my spouse to top off? I know I can transfer from UR or purchase, but looking to use her existing starriott points alongside mine, only need about 20k
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: hvaces42 on September 12, 2018, 11:36:26 AM
Are they still refunding 45k for old 1-5 certificates?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CS1 on September 12, 2018, 04:03:06 PM
Been reading back a few pages, with same household transfers gone from the SPG website, any way to combine (free pref) my points with my spouse to top off? I know I can transfer from UR or purchase, but looking to use her existing starriott points alongside mine, only need about 20k

it seems that they may be allowing 100K per year for Marriott to Marriott transfers, only.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: jomaster28 on September 12, 2018, 04:35:22 PM
Does anyone have any luck changing the 7 Night award stay to a 5 Night award? A rep just created a case number and said it is up to the hotel and that they will call be back within a week.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on September 12, 2018, 04:37:26 PM
Does anyone have any luck changing the 7 Night award stay to a 5 Night award? A rep just created a case number and said it is up to the hotel and that they will call be back within a week.
Why dont you keep it a 7 night and dont check out via desk, but call them after 7 days are up. You can put the please dont disturb on the door.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: isac on September 13, 2018, 12:08:32 AM
Does Plat premier status carry to 2019 or need to requalify?
soft landing to Plat?

Bump ?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on September 13, 2018, 05:39:57 AM
Bump ?
how did you earn it?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on September 13, 2018, 06:33:53 AM
Why dont you keep it a 7 night and dont check out via desk, but call them after 7 days are up. You can put the please dont disturb on the door.

What happens if you just checkout after 5 days?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on September 13, 2018, 09:49:32 AM
What happens if you just checkout after 5 days?
They hold you hostage until day 7.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: jomaster28 on September 13, 2018, 11:38:31 AM
What happens if you just checkout after 5 days?

Nothing at all but i rather the points...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Moshe26 on September 13, 2018, 02:48:49 PM
Why dont you keep it a 7 night and dont check out via desk, but call them after 7 days are up. You can put the please dont disturb on the door.
in some places you have to pay a resort fee per night so maybe its not worth paying for 7 nights if you only plan on staying 5
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on September 13, 2018, 03:04:41 PM
in some places you have to pay a resort fee per night so maybe its not worth paying for 7 nights if you only plan on staying 5
I was charged 5 days of upgrade fee when using 7n cert and checking out after 5
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 13, 2018, 09:29:45 PM
Has anyone received their SPG anniversary free night?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on September 14, 2018, 09:50:56 AM
Fyi i did not upgrade my spg card when being offered 50k bonus and now they upped it in my account to 100k for upgrading.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on September 17, 2018, 09:56:47 PM
anyone able to attach a certificate to a reservation that increased in price after the merge at the original redemption rate?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shapsam on September 17, 2018, 10:24:26 PM
Fyi i did not upgrade my spg card when being offered 50k bonus and now they upped it in my account to 100k for upgrading.
+1
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on September 20, 2018, 11:17:52 PM
Any way of using Hotel portion Marriott TP from someone else's account while retaining my own PP benefits?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: tzifanya54 on September 21, 2018, 04:08:18 AM
Any way of using Hotel portion Marriott TP from someone else's account while retaining my own PP benefits?
If it's the same as the regular nights certificates (can't imagine why it wouldn't be in this regard) then no.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Hjay on September 21, 2018, 07:52:04 AM
Are SPG cancellations still not getting points back right away?

Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on September 21, 2018, 12:15:57 PM
Did anyone find out why they took away nights? Did they give them back?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on September 21, 2018, 03:20:48 PM
Are SPG cancellations still not getting points back right away?


Bump. Anyone know what happens if you cancel certificate applied to SPG property?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on September 21, 2018, 03:23:57 PM

Bump. Anyone know what happens if you cancel certificate applied to SPG property?
How did you get a Cert attached to spg property?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on September 21, 2018, 03:24:52 PM
How did you get a Cert attached to spg property?
You can't? Looks like they exchanged it for points on my end, but I'm calling to find out.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: jomaster28 on September 26, 2018, 04:21:34 PM
You can't? Looks like they exchanged it for points on my end, but I'm calling to find out.

did they exchange your cert that was attached to an SPG property for Points?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on September 26, 2018, 10:53:50 PM
did they exchange your cert that was attached to an SPG property for Points?

No, they exchanged it for points (full value, not discounted) and booked with points @ SPG hotel
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: hvaces42 on September 26, 2018, 10:59:11 PM
No, they exchanged it for points (full value, not discounted) and booked with points @ SPG hotel
So next step is...get them to do this, cancel and retain the points?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on September 26, 2018, 10:59:32 PM
No, they exchanged it for points (full value, not discounted) and booked with points @ SPG hotel
What Cat. Cert. And how much is full value?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on September 26, 2018, 11:00:26 PM
What Cat. Cert. And how much is full value?

cat 7 7n. 360k is full value (6 x 60k)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on September 26, 2018, 11:00:49 PM
So next step is...get them to do this, cancel and retain the points?

I cancelled, got points back, and rebooked myself again because I actually want the stay :)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on September 26, 2018, 11:09:10 PM
Did anyone find out why they took away nights? Did they give them back?
Bump.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: hvaces42 on September 27, 2018, 01:11:10 PM
Over an hour and 20 minutes on the phone trying to use my unused 1-5 certificate. They are allowing me to book a Cat 5 SPG legacy hotel but having loads of trouble doing it. had to extend because the date was after expiration. Now it became a partial travel package. I dont even know what that means.

Successfully booked 7 night Cat 5. Somehow I ended up with 40k more points in my account and a Cat 5 certificate.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: oldguy on October 04, 2018, 11:51:36 PM
 I want to use 3 nights in a category 4 hotel in Palm Springs. The cost of the hotel is about the value of my category 1-4 certificate. would they give me any issued if I checkout after 3 or 4 nights? Or I should just not check out?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: rkg27 on October 11, 2018, 02:38:14 PM
If someone has marriott Gold does that give you the same rewards at Ritz Carlton locations?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on October 11, 2018, 02:43:29 PM
If someone has marriott Gold does that give you the same rewards at Ritz Carlton locations?
yes
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: stooges44 on October 11, 2018, 04:32:30 PM
Any reason to still have both the spg and marriot apps? I'm short on space and if I dont need both then which should I keep?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on October 11, 2018, 04:50:18 PM
Any reason to still have both the spg and marriot apps? I'm short on space and if I dont need both then which should I keep?
they are exactly the same. Whichever you like better you can keep
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: stooges44 on October 11, 2018, 04:52:17 PM
they are exactly the same. Whichever you like better you can keep

Thanks. Marriott, DELETE!  :D
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on October 11, 2018, 11:19:21 PM
So are the old certificates from Marriott valid only until 25k points redemptions or until current category 5?

Premier Visa Anniv. 1 Free Nt up to 25,000 Points is the name of my current certificate.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on October 14, 2018, 10:28:08 AM
So are the old certificates from Marriott valid only until 25k points redemptions or until current category 5?

Premier Visa Anniv. 1 Free Nt up to 25,000 Points is the name of my current certificate.

anyone know the answer to this?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: hvaces42 on October 15, 2018, 07:52:28 AM
Tried to get points refund on Cat 5 certificate (convert unused certificates back to points). Was offered 5k  :o
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on October 15, 2018, 01:54:12 PM
If you upgrade your spg luxury do u get your free night on card anniversary or upgrade anniversary?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on October 15, 2018, 01:54:43 PM
*your spg to a spg luxury
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on October 15, 2018, 04:05:22 PM
If you upgrade your spg luxury do u get your free night on card anniversary or upgrade anniversary?
upgrade
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zow on October 15, 2018, 06:30:43 PM
Has anyone tried (succeeded?) to cancel (remove) an attached old category 1-5 from a current Cat 5 (e.g., Calgary Airport Marriott) and re-attach it to another current Cat 5 property?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zow on October 17, 2018, 11:57:11 AM
Has anyone tried (succeeded?) to cancel (remove) an attached old category 1-5 from a current Cat 5 (e.g., Calgary Airport Marriott) and re-attach it to another current Cat 5 property?
BUMP, or do I need to be the guinea pig?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on October 17, 2018, 11:59:31 AM
@hvaces42 posted something about that earlier.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: hvaces42 on October 17, 2018, 12:04:34 PM
I tried to cancel an unattached new Cat 5 certificate and convert into points. They offered me 5k points. No thanks.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zow on October 17, 2018, 12:07:21 PM
@hvaces42 posted something about that earlier.
Yes, thanks, I saw, but if I understood correctly, @hvaces42  had "unattached" old cat 1-5 and got points back.
My certs are attached to a property that is old cat 5 and then bumped up to new cat 5.
I don't think anyone has posted experience on switching an old cat 1-5 cert attached to a new cat 5 property  to another new cat 5 property. Unless maybe I missed it... paging @TimT ?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 22, 2018, 12:52:32 AM
Logged into my Marriot account and im randomly platinum elite... is that still happening to people?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on October 22, 2018, 01:01:47 AM
I recently did my last 2 nights that put me over the top to PP, those 2 night were credited as 10 nights! So I'm now @ 85!
No, I wont become Ambassador. I only have $172 in spending.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on October 22, 2018, 06:37:08 AM
Logged into my Marriot account and im randomly platinum elite... is that still happening to people?

How many nights does it say u have?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on October 22, 2018, 07:10:35 AM
Logged into my Marriot account and im randomly platinum elite... is that still happening to people?
my wife's account has platinum elite I'm guessing just because she has the ritz card
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on October 22, 2018, 11:45:27 AM
Logged into my Marriot account and im randomly platinum elite... is that still happening to people?
I wish. :)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: gozalim on October 22, 2018, 12:36:25 PM
Over an hour and 20 minutes on the phone trying to use my unused 1-5 certificate. They are allowing me to book a Cat 5 SPG legacy hotel but having loads of trouble doing it. had to extend because the date was after expiration. Now it became a partial travel package. I dont even know what that means.

Successfully booked 7 night Cat 5. Somehow I ended up with 40k more points in my account and a Cat 5 certificate.
so anyone who bought those packages now during the merger run-up, should try replicate what you did :)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: hvaces42 on October 22, 2018, 12:39:15 PM
so anyone who bought those packages now during the merger run-up, should try replicate what you did :)
I agree.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: gozalim on October 22, 2018, 12:40:59 PM
so anyone who bought those packages now during the merger run-up, should try replicate what you did :)
so while officially these certs 'should' now be 1-4, you fought to apply it to a 5?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: hvaces42 on October 22, 2018, 12:42:57 PM
so while officially these certs 'should' now be 1-4, you fought to apply it to a 5?
I called SPG to attach to a current Cat 5 and they did. Then cancelled reservation and ended up with Cat 5 certificate. SPG reps saw Cat 1-5 certificate unused in my account so they figured its good for Cat 5.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: gozalim on October 22, 2018, 12:46:40 PM
I called SPG to attach to a current Cat 5 and they did. Then cancelled reservation and ended up with Cat 5 certificate. SPG reps saw Cat 1-5 certificate unused in my account so they figured its good for Cat 5.
at what point did you get the 40K?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: hvaces42 on October 22, 2018, 12:48:40 PM
at what point did you get the 40K?
Somewhere in the process of them making the res thay cancelled the old 1-5 cert and credited 45k points and deducted 5k points for a new "Partial Package" Cat 5 certificate.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 23, 2018, 07:28:54 PM
How many nights does it say u have?
zero
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 23, 2018, 07:29:11 PM
my wife's account has platinum elite I'm guessing just because she has the ritz card
interesting, I dont though
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shwarmabob on October 24, 2018, 02:02:19 PM
Yes, thanks, I saw, but if I understood correctly, @hvaces42  had "unattached" old cat 1-5 and got points back.
My certs are attached to a property that is old cat 5 and then bumped up to new cat 5.
I don't think anyone has posted experience on switching an old cat 1-5 cert attached to a new cat 5 property  to another new cat 5 property. Unless maybe I missed it... paging @TimT ?
so we are not having a DO in Calgary after all  ;D
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on October 30, 2018, 08:58:19 PM
Anyone else get there status changed out of the blue today? I went from gold to platinum. I was at 42 nights yesterday and today im at 57
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yaakovely on October 30, 2018, 11:00:14 PM
I was on the phone with a Marritt rep, and she combined all of the Marriott and Ritz Carlton accounts in my household under a bunch of different names. Which included qualifying nights, free night awards, anniversary nights, upgrade certificates, vouchers, Status ect.
Make sure to combine what you want to combine before you link your Spg account. Once you link your Spg you can't combine accounts, and there is no way to undo it.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 31, 2018, 12:26:41 AM
I was on the phone with a Marritt rep, and she combined all of the Marriott and Ritz Carlton accounts in my household under a bunch of different names. Which included qualifying nights, free night awards, anniversary nights, upgrade certificates, vouchers, Status ect.
Make sure to combine what you want to combine before you link your Spg account. Once you link your Spg you can't combine accounts, and there is no way to undo it.
Even different last names?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on October 31, 2018, 12:37:58 AM
I did not combine my accounts yet, but immediate family members have, can I still combine their accounts with mine?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 31, 2018, 12:49:47 AM
I did not combine my accounts yet, but immediate family members have, can I still combine their accounts with mine?
probably really YMMV
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on October 31, 2018, 01:37:24 AM
probably really YMMV
Thanks, I,ll try.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yaakovely on October 31, 2018, 01:47:37 PM
They let me combine with different last names. They first had to change the name on the accounts before combining them
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: jomaster28 on October 31, 2018, 03:36:45 PM
So i purchased a New Cat 6 7 Night Travel Package and tied the reservation to the Domes of Elouda before the merger. A few weeks later i called up and asked to convert it to a 5 night stay. They said they would have to investigate if they can refund me the points for the final 2 nights, but never got back to me. a few weeks after that i called up as i never got any points back and the reservation online was switched to 5 nights instead of 7.

 When i called up to see what was going on it seemed a lot more complicated than i thought. On record my certificate is still 7 nights, however the reservation is only for 5. When the manager i spoke to called the hotel to add the 2 nights they refused. They said that they are now a cat 8 and i cant add the two nights.

The agent i spoke to was so confused has a New Cat 6 cert was able to be booked for a New Cat 8 hotel, she was so confused.

Since i told her that I was still unsure if i want to go to Greece she said to keep everything the same and if i want to go for 7 nights than she will have to try and figure out what to do.

So Currently, I would love to get points in exchange for the 7 night cert does anyone have any experience with that?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 31, 2018, 10:34:04 PM
They let me combine with different last names. They first had to change the name on the accounts before combining them
both marriot accounts? im so curious why they let... same household?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: EJB on October 31, 2018, 11:15:48 PM
So i purchased a New Cat 6 7 Night Travel Package and tied the reservation to the Domes of Elouda before the merger. A few weeks later i called up and asked to convert it to a 5 night stay. They said they would have to investigate if they can refund me the points for the final 2 nights, but never got back to me. a few weeks after that i called up as i never got any points back and the reservation online was switched to 5 nights instead of 7.

 When i called up to see what was going on it seemed a lot more complicated than i thought. On record my certificate is still 7 nights, however the reservation is only for 5. When the manager i spoke to called the hotel to add the 2 nights they refused. They said that they are now a cat 8 and i cant add the two nights.

The agent i spoke to was so confused has a New Cat 6 cert was able to be booked for a New Cat 8 hotel, she was so confused.

Since i told her that I was still unsure if i want to go to Greece she said to keep everything the same and if i want to go for 7 nights than she will have to try and figure out what to do.

So Currently, I would love to get points in exchange for the 7 night cert does anyone have any experience with that?

Even though reservation is for 5 you still should get the full refund back if you cancel. Just keep in mind the refund value is much less than the cost of the reservation had you booked with points (45k + 30k for each category upgrade with the old chart).
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Mutty on November 09, 2018, 11:03:22 AM
Can someone point me to where it's discussed whether to combine marriot and spg or not. They keep telling me to.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: MrKaplan on November 13, 2018, 10:27:53 AM
Any data on what happens if I cancel an old cat 1-4 which is attached to the CAM
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on November 13, 2018, 10:46:59 AM
Can someone point me to where it's discussed whether to combine marriot and spg or not. They keep telling me to.
you definitely should combine them. No use in leaving them separate
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: meir123 on November 20, 2018, 09:15:48 AM
Not sure if this is the right thread. I see a spg hotel ava on points if you book 3 nights in a row but not if you book a single night. Anyway to get around this and book the one night?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on November 20, 2018, 09:32:17 AM
Not sure if this is the right thread. I see a spg hotel ava on points if you book 3 nights in a row but not if you book a single night. Anyway to get around this and book the one night?
yes book 3 and call to cancel the nights that you don’t need
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on November 20, 2018, 09:37:04 AM
Or Just call to book that single night. Marriott's policy is m, as long as there is a base room available you should be able to book on points
(there are exceptions).
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on November 20, 2018, 10:16:25 AM
Anyone know a good use for this or able to get it refunded as points?

Premier Visa Anniv. 1 Free Nt up to 25,000 Points
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: sky121 on November 20, 2018, 11:44:02 PM
What are Marriott points worth these days?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: MrKaplan on November 21, 2018, 12:02:23 AM
What are Marriott points worth these days?
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=60515.0
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ual902 on November 22, 2018, 01:11:22 AM
how to keep Marriott points alive?

Would buying a drink at a marriott hotel using my marriot number keep marriott points alive?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: BarryLincoln on December 10, 2018, 04:31:31 PM
I bought a Marriott travel cert (Ritz Cat 1-3) in August prior to merger.  I attached it to a stay in July 2019 at the Ritz in Toronto.  My understanding is that these certs can now book Cat 6 properties. 

1. Is there a way for me to extend the certificate? 
2. Looks like the Ritz Toronto is a CAT 7.  Can I book another cat 7?  Or am I stuck with Cat 6 hotels?

What is the appropriate course of action with these types of certs?

Thx!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on December 10, 2018, 04:41:01 PM
I bought a Marriott travel cert (Ritz Cat 1-3) in August prior to merger.  I attached it to a stay in July 2019 at the Ritz in Toronto.  My understanding is that these certs can now book Cat 6 properties. 

1. Is there a way for me to extend the certificate? 
2. Looks like the Ritz Toronto is a CAT 7.  Can I book another cat 7?  Or am I stuck with Cat 6 hotels?

What is the appropriate course of action with these types of certs?

Thx!
you can for sure get a 30K refund and extend it one year from when you get the refund

TARB if you can get it switched to a current Cat 7
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Danlover111 on December 15, 2018, 04:52:17 PM
Hi
anyone have success converting a anniversary night into points or im wasting my time trying ?
thanks
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Zevi16 on December 19, 2018, 09:57:59 AM
Just got this email.

‘2018 has been a year of change for us here at Marriott and for our members. In August we combined our three loyalty programs: Marriott Rewards, The Ritz-Carlton Rewards and SPG, giving you access to more hotels, benefits and status than ever before. While merging our programs brought you many new benefits and options, we know that for some, the integration presented challenges, and we apologize for these difficulties.

As we move toward the end of this year, I wanted to take a moment to reiterate that our goal is always to provide you with memorable travel experiences and to make you feel like a valued part of the Marriott family. With that in mind, I want to personally thank you for your ongoing support, patience and loyalty during a challenging year.

You’ll be hearing more from us next year when we introduce our new brand name, representing the most rewarding loyalty program in hospitality. I want to wish you a happy and healthy holiday season, and we look forward to welcoming you at our 29 extraordinary hotel brands around the world in the new year and for many years to come. 

Best,
David Flueck
SVP, Global Loyalty
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zow on December 19, 2018, 11:01:09 AM
Just got this email.


You’ll be hearing more from us next year when we introduce our new brand name, representing the most rewarding loyalty program in hospitality. I want to wish you a happy and healthy holiday season, and we look forward to welcoming you at our 29 extraordinary hotel brands around the world in the new year and for many years to come. 

Best,
David Flueck
SVP, Global Loyalty

A new brand, as in adding another hotel brand, or a new brand, as in, "We are no longer Marriott Rewards. Now, we are Marriott Headaches"?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Zevi16 on December 19, 2018, 11:05:09 AM
That’s what I’m wodnering
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on December 19, 2018, 11:17:42 AM
A new brand, as in adding another hotel brand, or a new brand, as in, "We are no longer Marriott Rewards. Now, we are Marriott Headaches"?

New brand name
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on December 19, 2018, 11:24:51 AM
A new brand, as in adding another hotel brand, or a new brand, as in, "We are no longer Marriott Rewards. Now, we are Marriott Headaches"?
More like "Bonvey"
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on December 19, 2018, 11:26:03 AM
More like "Bonvey"
You mean more like "OyVey".
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on December 24, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
what happened to Marriott becoming transferable to EL AL?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Naftuli19 on December 24, 2018, 04:38:11 PM
+1
Anyone else get there status changed out of the blue today? I went from gold to platinum. I was at 42 nights yesterday and today im at 57
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shulem92 on January 01, 2019, 12:56:58 AM
my status remained platinum elite although my nights have been reset to 0 because its a new year. does this mean that my status is here to stay until the end of 2019? i sure hope so
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Naftuli19 on January 01, 2019, 02:47:52 AM
my status remained platinum elite although my nights have been reset to 0 because its a new year. does this mean that my status is here to stay until the end of 2019? i sure hope so
Same here... lets pray together!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2019, 09:38:52 AM
Status never resets on 1/1
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yakrot on January 01, 2019, 10:19:02 AM
Status never resets on 1/1
When do night credits from credit cards hit?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shulem92 on January 01, 2019, 10:21:24 AM
Status never resets on 1/1
even though the nights reset? when does it usually reset?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shulem92 on January 01, 2019, 02:24:41 PM
Status never resets on 1/1
how long does it take to reset? i have a stay on 1/6. will i still have status?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on January 01, 2019, 03:55:20 PM
how long does it take to reset? i have a stay on 1/6. will i still have status?
February, iirc.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CS1 on January 01, 2019, 08:12:38 PM
Status never resets on 1/1

however the nights reset for 2019 already, right? Same status, however I'm back to zero nights for the new year.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zow on January 06, 2019, 10:31:22 PM
so we are not having a DO in Calgary after all  ;D
I guess not.  :'(
I was unfortunately not able to transfer my Calgary certificates to New Category 5 property directly.
The agent cancelled them and they now sit in my account as "7 Night Travel Package Category 1-5 Hotels".
The agent (SPG) first said they were worth 132k points...then when I asked her to use one to book at Cat 5 hotel, she got confused, because it costs 210k for a week in the Cat 5.  Then she read that the Cat 1-5 certificate is worth 270k Marriott reward points.  Then she got flustered and said she had to contact her "assist" team. That's where I stand right now...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on January 06, 2019, 10:35:10 PM
I don't blame the poor customer rep for getting confused....
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zow on January 06, 2019, 10:45:49 PM
I don't blame the poor customer rep for getting confused....
I don't blame her at all. I'm just hoping that the outcome is favorable.
She told me that she had to transfer me over to Marriott....I guess the merger isn't quite complete. :)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: shulem92 on January 06, 2019, 10:48:28 PM
I guess not.  :'(
I was unfortunately not able to transfer my Calgary certificates to New Category 5 property directly.
The agent cancelled them and they now sit in my account as "7 Night Travel Package Category 1-5 Hotels".
The agent (SPG) first said they were worth 132k points...then when I asked her to use one to book at Cat 5 hotel, she got confused, because it costs 210k for a week in the Cat 5.  Then she read that the Cat 1-5 certificate is worth 270k Marriott reward points.  Then she got flustered and said she had to contact her "assist" team. That's where I stand right now...
even if she manages to book you into a category 5. the reservation will error out eventually, (usually a week before when it becomes official/no more cancelling, or whenever their cancellation policy is...)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on January 06, 2019, 11:02:22 PM
In general always call Marriot lines when dealing with certs [not former spg lines], the are usually more competent in certs, if not then HUCA.

You also have to know what your doin, as to guide them thru the process. It sounds crazy, but have done it multiple times.

In your case with old Marriot cert Cat 1-5 attached to a Cat 5 changing to a new hotel Cat 5,
I don't think the system will allow you to do it.

They have to reissue the cert which will auto convert it to a 1-4.

If you have any luck rebooking with the old cert  report back as for a DP and ask them what they did so others can follow.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zow on January 06, 2019, 11:08:06 PM
In general always call Marriot lines when dealing with certs [not former spg lines], the are usually more competent in certs, if not then HUCA.

You also have to know what your doin, as to guide them thru the process. It sounds crazy, but have done it multiple times.

In your case with old Marriot cert Cat 1-5 attached to a Cat 5 changing to a new hotel Cat 5,
I don't think the system will allow you to do it.

They have to reissue the cert which will auto convert it to a 1-4.

If you have any luck rebooking with the old cert  report back as for a DP and ask them what they did so others can follow.
even if she manages to book you into a category 5. the reservation will error out eventually, (usually a week before when it becomes official/no more cancelling, or whenever their cancellation policy is...)

Well, @hvaces42 had better success than the rest of us with the SPG agents.  It stood to reason that SPG agents might not know the details of these certificates and might allow more flexibility. Alas, as both of you just said, it seems not to be in the cards for me.

The SPG agent came back and said that actually the 1-5 Certs are no longer in existence and that they are now being reissued as Partial Package - 7 nights category 1-4.  And in fact, when I logged out and logged back in, that's what I see in my account.  She said that Marriott would credit me 40,000 Marriott points for my trouble, but those have yet to show up. 

She also said that she couldn't book me for a week at the Sortis in Panama City because it's a Category 5...that's just wrong, as it's a Category 3.  I'll have to HUCA.  She left me hanging on hold waiting to speak with a supervisor. I think I'll need to call back.

Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: bobeli on January 09, 2019, 09:28:17 PM
Can someone point me to where it's discussed whether to combine marriot and spg or not. They keep telling me to.
which credentials are better spg or marriot?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on January 09, 2019, 10:56:12 PM
which credentials are better spg or marriot?
its the same
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Moshe26 on January 10, 2019, 06:23:35 PM
what did ppl here do with their cert which was attached to Domes Of Elounda pre merge? I just realized I have a 5 night cert attached to it which I will likely not using.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehudaa on January 16, 2019, 12:17:44 PM
New combined program announced:

https://meetmarriottbonvoy.marriott.com
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Bosco on January 16, 2019, 12:37:54 PM
I have a 7 night cert attached to EUGENIA DE MONTIJO, from before the merger when the cert was 1-5. As it is coming up soon and I didnt want to detach it for fear of having it reduced to a 1-4, I was going to change the nights of my stay. When I went online to do it, it showed that, while my initial "cost" was 270k points for the 7 night stay, it is not 210k points for 7 nights, for the new dates that I selected. It showed that 60k points will be redeposited. Does that actually happen? Will I actually get 60k points?

Also, any advice for the best approach to take with an old 1-5 cert to maximize the value?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on January 16, 2019, 12:40:20 PM
Do you want to change the dates?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Bosco on January 16, 2019, 12:44:13 PM
Do you want to change the dates?
Yeah, cuz it's attached to a hotel for next week. And I wont be in spain next week.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on January 16, 2019, 12:46:27 PM
Call the hotel directly and ask them to change it. Make sure the  dates available with the same room type.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Bosco on January 16, 2019, 12:47:08 PM
Call the hotel directly and ask them to change it. Make sure the  dates available with the same room type.

Why would i do that if I can just do it online (and potentially get 60k points deposited in my account)?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: sammdaman on January 16, 2019, 12:49:02 PM
+1

Likely you upgraded from SPG to new Luxury SPG card, spent 75K between those cards combined which immediately makes you Platinum Elite...

Here is the verbiage from Amex Website:
COMPLIMENTARY GOLD ELITE STATUS
Enjoy complimentary Gold Elite status with your Card.‡ Earn Platinum Elite status after making $75,000 in eligible purchases on your Card in a calendar year.‡
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Naftuli19 on January 16, 2019, 12:50:37 PM
Likely you upgraded from SPG to new Luxury SPG card, spent 75K between those cards combined which immediately makes you Platinum Elite...

Here is the verbiage from Amex Website:
COMPLIMENTARY GOLD ELITE STATUS
Enjoy complimentary Gold Elite status with your Card.‡ Earn Platinum Elite status after making $75,000 in eligible purchases on your Card in a calendar year.‡
But i didn't!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: sammdaman on January 16, 2019, 06:10:47 PM
But i didn't!

very strange, no clue in that case...

either way enjoy the benefits :)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Naftuli19 on January 16, 2019, 06:24:00 PM
very strange, no clue in that case...

either way enjoy the benefits :)
While they last!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: danfan5773 on January 16, 2019, 07:02:49 PM
can i receive credit for more than 1 room by staying at 2 different Marriott hotels in 1 night?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: CS1 on January 16, 2019, 07:37:58 PM
New combined program announced:

https://meetmarriottbonvoy.marriott.com

interesting that they place "Sheraton" in the same league as Le Meridien and Marriott and Westin on the bottom of that page. Many Sheratons seem to be much lower in quality than the Westins, etc... in my experience.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 17, 2019, 12:56:14 AM
Just noticed two 25k deductions from my point balance with no explanation. any one else get that?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on January 17, 2019, 01:49:04 AM
Just noticed two 25k deductions from my point balance with no explanation. any one else get that?
Did you call to find why?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 17, 2019, 02:44:57 PM
Did you call to find why?
Not yet on the todo list. Was just wondering if it was a common problem or not.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Mutty on January 17, 2019, 04:27:06 PM
If I'm combining SPG and Marriot and I have both cards, should I get rid of one card? They both have yearly fees
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on January 17, 2019, 04:32:09 PM
If you stay in hotels, its offset by the free night. As another option you can sell it on DDF.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 17, 2019, 10:02:46 PM
If I'm combining SPG and Marriot and I have both cards, should I get rid of one card? They both have yearly fees
Simple equation is the free night worth the AF to you?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Mutty on January 17, 2019, 10:24:55 PM
Simple equation is the free night worth the AF to you?
the free night on Marriott is worth it to me. Spg doesn’t give free nights. So should I just keep the Marriott? I might have just answered my question. I’ve had spg for so many years just want to be positive in chucking it.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on January 17, 2019, 10:37:28 PM


the free night on Marriott is worth it to me. Spg doesn’t give free nights. So should I just keep the Marriott? I might have just answered my question. I’ve had spg for so many years just want to be positive in chucking it.

SPG cards give you a free night as well...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: oldguy on January 17, 2019, 11:46:09 PM

SPG cards give you a free night as well...
Worth even more than the one Marriott gives..
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 18, 2019, 08:20:04 AM
the free night on Marriott is worth it to me. Spg doesn’t give free nights. So should I just keep the Marriott? I might have just answered my question. I’ve had spg for so many years just want to be positive in chucking it.
That changed in the summer. Now they give a free night as well.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Mutty on January 18, 2019, 10:44:51 AM
That changed in the summer. Now they give a free night as well.
Never heard about that. Is it also at end of year?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Bosco on January 18, 2019, 11:04:03 AM
I have a 7 night cert attached to EUGENIA DE MONTIJO, from before the merger when the cert was 1-5. As it is coming up soon and I didnt want to detach it for fear of having it reduced to a 1-4, I was going to change the nights of my stay. When I went online to do it, it showed that, while my initial "cost" was 270k points for the 7 night stay, it is not 210k points for 7 nights, for the new dates that I selected. It showed that 60k points will be redeposited. Does that actually happen? Will I actually get 60k points?

Also, any advice for the best approach to take with an old 1-5 cert to maximize the value?

Bump

Any additional thoughts on this? I just want to know if I would actually receive a 60k refund if I do this and if it would affect my certificate in any way.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on January 18, 2019, 12:41:32 PM
Never heard about that. Is it also at end of year?
It's at cardmember anniversary.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 18, 2019, 02:04:15 PM
Bump

Any additional thoughts on this? I just want to know if I would actually receive a 60k refund if I do this and if it would affect my certificate in any way.
Highly doubtful that they will actually redeposit points.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: lindnuck on January 22, 2019, 06:09:35 PM
Hi all,

I'm more familiar with airline redemptions, new to the hotel side. I will have two free night cat 1-5 certificates after my card anniversaries in June (one each for myself and my spouse).

I'm trying to book a family room for us and our two children in Paris for September.  Please correct any of my assumptions if they are wrong:

1) I can book now by points and then pay with the certificates that I will have received by the time of my stay.

2) The cost of the room may not exceed the value of the certificate (i.e. I can't pay any difference with points).

3) My understanding is that category 5 hotels are moving from 35k to 30/40 depending on peak season.

Question: What will the certificates cover, post peak/offpeak transition? Will it cover a 40k peak category 5 room? Or still only rooms that are 35k or less?

Bonus Q: Do we need two separate reservations since the certificates are in seaparate names? Or can we be on one reservation and then pay with our separate certificates?

TIA!


Apologies if this is answered elsewhere, but I tried searching, to no avail.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: J-town on January 24, 2019, 01:50:56 AM
Anyone else here feel like the 15 night credits from the credit card(s) will never post?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: smart man on January 24, 2019, 06:05:00 AM
Hi all,

I'm more familiar with airline redemptions, new to the hotel side. I will have two free night cat 1-5 certificates after my card anniversaries in June (one each for myself and my spouse).

I'm trying to book a family room for us and our two children in Paris for September.  Please correct any of my assumptions if they are wrong:

1) I can book now by points and then pay with the certificates that I will have received by the time of my stay.

2) The cost of the room may not exceed the value of the certificate (i.e. I can't pay any difference with points).

3) My understanding is that category 5 hotels are moving from 35k to 30/40 depending on peak season.

Question: What will the certificates cover, post peak/offpeak transition? Will it cover a 40k peak category 5 room? Or still only rooms that are 35k or less?

Bonus Q: Do we need two separate reservations since the certificates are in seaparate names? Or can we be on one reservation and then pay with our separate certificates?

TIA!


Apologies if this is answered elsewhere, but I tried searching, to no avail.



1) I can book now by points and then pay with the certificates that I will have received by the time of my stay.
Where do you get that from?

2) The cost of the room may not exceed the value of the certificate (i.e. I can't pay any difference with points).
True

3) My understanding is that category 5 hotels are moving from 35k to 30/40 depending on peak season.
Sounds right.

Question: What will the certificates cover, post peak/offpeak transition? Will it cover a 40k peak category 5 room? Or still only rooms that are 35k or less?
Only 35k rooms and less

Bonus Q: Do we need two separate reservations since the certificates are in seaparate names? Or can we be on one reservation and then pay with our separate certificates?
2 separate reservations, cause it's two separate accounts. Though the reservations can probably be combined by calling.

TIA!


Apologies if this is answered elsewhere, but I tried searching, to no avail.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: lindnuck on January 24, 2019, 01:32:45 PM


1) I can book now by points and then pay with the certificates that I will have received by the time of my stay.
Where do you get that from?

2) The cost of the room may not exceed the value of the certificate (i.e. I can't pay any difference with points).
True

3) My understanding is that category 5 hotels are moving from 35k to 30/40 depending on peak season.
Sounds right.

Question: What will the certificates cover, post peak/offpeak transition? Will it cover a 40k peak category 5 room? Or still only rooms that are 35k or less?
Only 35k rooms and less

Bonus Q: Do we need two separate reservations since the certificates are in seaparate names? Or can we be on one reservation and then pay with our separate certificates?
2 separate reservations, cause it's two separate accounts. Though the reservations can probably be combined by calling.

TIA!


Apologies if this is answered elsewhere, but I tried searching, to no avail.

Thanks Smart Man! For #1, where did I get that info from? I initially asked in another travel group if I could lock in the 35k rate now as pay later with points, and then "pay" for it with the certificate by adding it to the reservation when I receive them. I was told I could. I then called Marriott and asked, and they acted like I was stupid for even asking, that of course that's what I could do.

Why, is that information wrong in your experience?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: JosephM on January 24, 2019, 05:34:08 PM
I’ve been told by a Ritz Carlton hotel manager that the categories are changing on Jan 31. Has this date been confirmed?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yitzgar on January 28, 2019, 02:43:46 PM
Neither the Marriott or spg app have been working for a while. Anyone else having trouble? Ive tried deleting and downloading again and no luck. The app launches, but then by the sign in page it just shuts down
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on January 28, 2019, 03:30:41 PM
Neither the Marriott or spg app have been working for a while. Anyone else having trouble? Ive tried deleting and downloading again and no luck. The app launches, but then by the sign in page it just shuts down
I had the same issue a few days ago, but did not try again more recently.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on January 28, 2019, 03:41:44 PM
Neither the Marriott or spg app have been working for a while. Anyone else having trouble? Ive tried deleting and downloading again and no luck. The app launches, but then by the sign in page it just shuts down
I have not had any issues using the Marriott App. Ive been using it every day for a long time
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on January 28, 2019, 03:43:08 PM
I have not had any issues using the Marriott App. Ive been using it every day for a long time
Thanks, I'll try to delete and download again.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: MrKaplan on January 28, 2019, 03:45:25 PM
Neither the Marriott or spg app have been working for a while. Anyone else having trouble? Ive tried deleting and downloading again and no luck. The app launches, but then by the sign in page it just shuts down
Had this issue this morning but now it's working fine.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on January 28, 2019, 03:46:46 PM
Had this issue this morning but now it's working fine.
I just checked again now before deleting, and it is working fine, thanks .
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on January 28, 2019, 04:24:32 PM
I believe the spg app is being discontinued, but not sure when. Still wouldn't explain the MT app not working.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: voldemort on January 28, 2019, 04:27:35 PM
I believe the spg app is being discontinued, but not sure when.
Feb 13th according to the Spg app.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yitzgar on January 28, 2019, 05:27:52 PM
Had this issue this morning but now it's working fine.
Hasn't been working for a couple days now
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: themev on January 29, 2019, 04:33:45 PM
Has anyone noticed the pricing for upgraded rooms at Marriott hotels is bonkers? It used to be an additional 5k or 10k points per night to get an upgraded room (when available), but now even slightly upgraded rooms are pricing at more than a free night! Was this an announced devaluation that I missed or a stealth one or just an IT glitch?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: themev on January 30, 2019, 01:37:04 PM
No one responded, but just to give an example - an Intracoastal room at the Fort Lauderdale Marriott Harbor Beach Resort & Spa from 2/10-2/15 is 200K points....but an Oceanfront room 'upgrade' for the same period is 425K or 225k extra points! The charge for that little 'upgrade' is 55k per night or more than the original room. There are numerous other examples of this.

Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: pghtown on February 01, 2019, 03:21:13 PM
How quickly will Marriott points transfer to United Mileage Plus account? Any recent experience?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: pghtown on February 03, 2019, 08:46:52 AM
How quickly will Marriott points transfer to United Mileage Plus account? Any recent experience?
BUMP
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: chbochur on February 03, 2019, 06:47:38 PM
So I'm sitting here with nikhil takalkar
and nathalie nelson for the next few hours.
They came they are responsible for the merger or are at least very involved.
Let me know if you have any questions to throw at them
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on February 03, 2019, 06:56:42 PM
How much less spend is being put on the Amex SPG cards now that they earn only 2 points a dollar and when are they going to bring it back to 3 ppd?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: chbochur on February 03, 2019, 07:55:59 PM
Nice conversation with Arnie sorenson will try to give some details later
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: chbochur on February 04, 2019, 02:07:38 PM
How much less spend is being put on the Amex SPG cards now that they earn only 2 points a dollar and when are they going to bring it back to 3 ppd?
So we didn't do too much talking about these things. Later when I spoke to Arnie sorenson (CEO) he didn't really want to talk about this point so I didn't push him. Later I spoke to Leeny Oberg (CFO) and pushed her a little and all she mentioned is it's up to amex to decide to make it happen.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on February 04, 2019, 02:25:46 PM
So we didn't do too much talking about these things. Later when I spoke to Arnie sorenson (CEO) he didn't really want to talk about this point so I didn't push him. Later I spoke to Leeny Oberg (CFO) and pushed her a little and all she mentioned is it's up to amex to decide to make it happen.
Duh.

Marriott decided to hike up the rate?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: chbochur on February 04, 2019, 03:33:53 PM
Duh.

Marriott decided to hike up the rate?
Not sure but I think not rather it seems they feel they can get away with paying less and only giving 2 ppc
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on February 04, 2019, 03:40:44 PM
If it wasn't for the targeted offers a few months ago, I would have not spent a dime on them.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on February 09, 2019, 07:29:00 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-kuwait-morocco-marriott-intnl-idUSKCN1PY0CX


St Regis in Morroco.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: MrKaplan on February 13, 2019, 01:06:04 PM
Anyone else throw up when they opened the Marriott BonVoyage app today?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yitzgar on February 13, 2019, 01:50:42 PM
Anyone else throw up when they opened the Marriott BonVoyage app today?
Basically the same. Only thing I noticed is the colors
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: MrKaplan on February 13, 2019, 01:55:28 PM
Basically the same. Only thing I noticed is the colors
correct
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Naftuli19 on February 13, 2019, 06:18:27 PM
Anyone else throw up when they opened the Marriott BonVoyage app today?
i threw up when i heard the name... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on February 13, 2019, 06:33:13 PM
Anyone else throw up when they opened the Marriott BonVoyage app today?
Literally didn't open it until I saw this. So done with the Spg MT drama.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on February 13, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Literally didn't open it until I saw this. So done with the Spg MT drama.
Any changes other than name and color?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on February 13, 2019, 07:05:20 PM
Any changes other than name and color?
Well my friends app shows 0 points, so that seems to be working fine
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mendyt on February 14, 2019, 12:39:10 AM
@ The phoenician today
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yitzgar on February 14, 2019, 08:11:22 AM
@ The phoenician today
Now THAT would probably make me throw up....
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Jean123 on February 14, 2019, 10:49:06 AM
Literally didn't open it until I saw this. So done with the Spg MT drama.

SAVAGE!  8)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Sig on February 14, 2019, 03:43:14 PM
Not sure but I think not rather it seems they feel they can get away with paying less and only giving 2 ppc
I canceled my business card shortly after they switched and the rep seemed to not grasp why I was canceling. I canceled my personal card last week and they completely understood and had a whole line of BS they were reading from a script that had clearly been designed to counter those of us canceling because of the devaluation. Unfortunately insulting your customer's intelligence by telling them that they're really better off getting 2/3 of what they were getting before isn't a great way to do business, not sure why incentive programs all seem to think it is, so I'm done with them if/until they come to their senses. Hopefully the fact they have a custom script for it now shows that we're hurting them enough for them to pay attention. That had to be a cash cow for AMEX that will largely go away as everyone cuts spending if not canceling their card altogether.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: chbochur on February 14, 2019, 03:46:24 PM
I canceled my business card shortly after they switched and the rep seemed to not grasp why I was canceling. I canceled my personal card last week and they completely understood and had a whole line of BS they were reading from a script that had clearly been designed to counter those of us canceling because of the devaluation. Unfortunately insulting your customer's intelligence by telling them that they're really better off getting 2/3 of what they were getting before isn't a great way to do business, not sure why incentive programs all seem to think it is, so I'm done with them if/until they come to their senses. Hopefully the fact they have a custom script for it now shows that we're hurting them enough for them to pay attention. That had to be a cash cow for AMEX that will largely go away as everyone cuts spending if not canceling their card altogether.
That's pretty much what I told them. I was supposed to send a follow-up email which I'm still working on to see how they formally respond to this point (assuming I'll get a response after our lovely few hours we spent together)
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on February 14, 2019, 03:47:37 PM
I canceled my business card shortly after they switched and the rep seemed to not grasp why I was canceling. I canceled my personal card last week and they completely understood and had a whole line of BS they were reading from a script that had clearly been designed to counter those of us canceling because of the devaluation. Unfortunately insulting your customer's intelligence by telling them that they're really better off getting 2/3 of what they were getting before isn't a great way to do business, not sure why incentive programs all seem to think it is, so I'm done with them if/until they come to their senses. Hopefully the fact they have a custom script for it now shows that we're hurting them enough for them to pay attention. That had to be a cash cow for AMEX that will largely go away as everyone cuts spending if not canceling their card altogether.
I have had both personal and business for over 4 years, now I am not sure if they are worth keeping, but the free annual night still pays for the AF, for MS or daily spend, definitely not worth it.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yelped on February 14, 2019, 03:52:36 PM
That's pretty much what I told them. I was supposed to send a follow-up email which I'm still working on to see how they formally respond to this point (assuming I'll get a response after our lovely few hours we spent together)
Thank you. Please post here before you send for input.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: chbochur on February 14, 2019, 04:10:42 PM
Thank you. Please post here before you send for input.
Will do
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on February 14, 2019, 04:11:36 PM
I dont get why anyone would close the card? The Free night is worth way more than the AF.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on February 14, 2019, 04:23:48 PM
I dont get why anyone would close the card? The Free night is worth way more than the AF.
I agree with you, I am rarely using them now, but definitely the free night is worth more the AF.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on February 17, 2019, 03:09:23 PM
Anyone able to get the 100k upgrade offer, when they already have the card? (i.e have the Bonvoy Brilliant card and the regular Bonvoy card, but want to upgrade the Bonvoy card too).
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: chff on March 08, 2019, 11:46:34 AM
Was this moved to Lucky's thread?

https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-bonvoy-influencer-trip/

Either way here are some tweets not related to Lucky


Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: chff on March 08, 2019, 11:55:33 AM
So 2 CC certificates were taken from my account and Marriott has no clues about it other then which hotel used it. They dont have the dates or res number
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on March 08, 2019, 02:36:58 PM
https://www.bonvoyed.com
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on March 10, 2019, 12:03:02 AM
Crazy how wide spread the term Bonvoyed has become.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on March 10, 2019, 12:59:45 AM
Crazy how wide spread the term Bonvoyed has become.
And there ain't no reason for it to stop, until they get their act together
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: jrfigo on March 10, 2019, 11:09:59 PM
My 1-5 category free night that I earned before the merger changed to a 25,000 certificate, which only allows to have a 1-4 category hotel. Is there anything I can do to fix that?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on March 11, 2019, 01:36:05 AM
My 1-5 category free night that I earned before the merger changed to a 25,000 certificate, which only allows to have a 1-4 category hotel. Is there anything I can do to fix that?
That's the way its supposed to be. The category's shifted, so your change correlates with the category changes.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: jrfigo on March 11, 2019, 12:09:48 PM
That's the way its supposed to be. The category's shifted, so your change correlates with the category changes.

If that's the case, are you saying that I had 1-5 category free night that became a 1-4 category free night, so people who had 1-4 category free nights, it became 1-3 category free night for them?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Denverite on March 12, 2019, 04:41:25 PM
Not sure if this question goes into the "Israel Hotels Master Thread" but it seems like a merger/IT issue so I'm posting here first, the Elma Arts Hotel comes up on Marriott and Design Hotels websites but always show no availability.

On the direct hotel website they show rooms and you can book them.  But that website doesn't reference Marriott at all or let me login to link it to my rewards number.
https://www.elma-hotel.com/ (https://www.elma-hotel.com/)

I'd prefer to use points for a room but I'd even be willing to possibly book a paid room if I at least earned points, status, etc.  Has anybody encountered this kind of thing either here or at other hotels post merger?  I was worried they were leaving the chain but I haven't seen any announcements.  If others have had this issue at other hotels, please let me know.

Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: MeirS on March 14, 2019, 09:09:18 AM
I'm sure this has been mentioned somewhere but I can't find it on Tapatalk.

How long does a Marriott-BA transfer take?

Thanks
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehudaa on March 14, 2019, 07:17:00 PM
LoyaltyLobby (https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/03/14/marriott-bonvoy-110000000-customer-cases-opened-since-april-2019/) posted the following unverified text message that someone forwarded to him, supposedly from a Marriott employee:

I worked for Marriott for a little over 3 years. Marriott had a motto “Take care of the associates and they will take care of the guests.” In April of 2018 Marriott rolled out their new “Service Delivery Module.” At the same time, they stopped taking care of the associates.

Before SDM, there were several departments to contact. Sales, customer care, rewards, etc. Now, no matter who you call, you are getting a sales rep. If you need to get sent to “loyalty” you are getting a sales rep that 3 hours more of copy and paste training. If you get sent to “elite” they had 2 more hours of the same training. And just to add, it was SPG employees leading the training.

An entire new reservation system was forced on us that barely works because Marriott didn’t want to pay Oracle to use the system they had been using before. To add to this, the agents were able to call supervisors that would help them fix things. The supervisors are now ordered not to help. Everything has to be “make a case.” Cases are “supposed” to be resolved in 3 to 5 days. When I left, there were cases that were 4 months old untouched. The cases started in April. I’ve been told that since then, they have reached 110 million cases.

When the changes started in April, agents that had worked there for 20 years were walking out in the middle of their shifts. The company scrambled to hire a bunch of people with less than normal training. There are a lot of agents that are just terrible. There are still a lot that want to help but can’t. Even the former SPG agents are new to all of the system changes.

Marriott tried to change 50 things at once with them all working at 25 percent. It needed to change one thing at a time. Waiting until it was running well. Then make the next change. My former coworkers say there is a new change that is about to take away their last resort system away next week. Good luck.

So it is not IT like everyone says. Or usually lack of agents trying. It is the company not wanting to pay for a third party software anymore. And SPG training Marriott employees on a system that barely works. And neither company has used before.

I almost left out the best part. The CEO visited a call center for the first time ever two weeks ago. Best of luck travelers. Don’t blame the person on the phone. They are trying.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: chff on March 14, 2019, 11:54:00 PM
LoyaltyLobby (https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/03/14/marriott-bonvoy-110000000-customer-cases-opened-since-april-2019/) posted the following unverified text message that someone forwarded to him, supposedly from a Marriott employee:

I worked for Marriott for a little over 3 years. Marriott had a motto “Take care of the associates and they will take care of the guests.” In April of 2018 Marriott rolled out their new “Service Delivery Module.” At the same time, they stopped taking care of the associates.

Before SDM, there were several departments to contact. Sales, customer care, rewards, etc. Now, no matter who you call, you are getting a sales rep. If you need to get sent to “loyalty” you are getting a sales rep that 3 hours more of copy and paste training. If you get sent to “elite” they had 2 more hours of the same training. And just to add, it was SPG employees leading the training.

An entire new reservation system was forced on us that barely works because Marriott didn’t want to pay Oracle to use the system they had been using before. To add to this, the agents were able to call supervisors that would help them fix things. The supervisors are now ordered not to help. Everything has to be “make a case.” Cases are “supposed” to be resolved in 3 to 5 days. When I left, there were cases that were 4 months old untouched. The cases started in April. I’ve been told that since then, they have reached 110 million cases.

When the changes started in April, agents that had worked there for 20 years were walking out in the middle of their shifts. The company scrambled to hire a bunch of people with less than normal training. There are a lot of agents that are just terrible. There are still a lot that want to help but can’t. Even the former SPG agents are new to all of the system changes.

Marriott tried to change 50 things at once with them all working at 25 percent. It needed to change one thing at a time. Waiting until it was running well. Then make the next change. My former coworkers say there is a new change that is about to take away their last resort system away next week. Good luck.

So it is not IT like everyone says. Or usually lack of agents trying. It is the company not wanting to pay for a third party software anymore. And SPG training Marriott employees on a system that barely works. And neither company has used before.

I almost left out the best part. The CEO visited a call center for the first time ever two weeks ago. Best of luck travelers. Don’t blame the person on the phone. They are trying.

Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on April 04, 2019, 10:05:03 AM
https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-marriott-rewards-points-starwood-bonvoy-20190404-story.html
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dave.brown0112 on April 04, 2019, 11:00:53 AM
Question for everyone: I made a Domes of Elounda reservation before the Merger when it was 45k/night. Applied my Travel certificate to it. I would rather have used my points 45k to pay for the reservation and keep my Cat 6. When i called in twice to have that done they are saying that they wont do it.

Does that make sense? I'mnot changing the date or anything. I should be allowed to have the original rate honored. Am i correct? Any experience this?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on April 04, 2019, 11:05:01 AM
Question for everyone: I made a Domes of Elounda reservation before the Merger when it was 45k/night. Applied my Travel certificate to it. I would rather have used my points 45k to pay for the reservation and keep my Cat 6. When i called in twice to have that done they are saying that they wont do it.

Does that make sense? I'mnot changing the date or anything. I should be allowed to have the original rate honored. Am i  correct? Any experience this?
Nothing about Marriott makes sense these days.... Technically they should be able to detach the certificate and use points instead but you will most likely need a very competent rep so I would try HUCA but honestly Im not surprised that they are saying it cant be done
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Thingywingy on April 09, 2019, 09:47:06 PM
Are there any options for extending Marriot points without a hotel redemption and earning from CC spending?
Does purchasing points at US$12.50 per 1,000 Points qualify as activity?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on April 10, 2019, 02:55:25 AM
Are there any options for extending Marriot points without a hotel redemption and earning from CC spending?
Does purchasing points at US$12.50 per 1,000 Points qualify as activity?
Yes .

Stay at a Marriott hotel. Earning or redeeming points at a Marriott hotel is by far the easiest method. ...
Donate points. ...
Buy points. ...
Earn points with a reward partner. ...
Transfer your points to another account.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Thingywingy on April 10, 2019, 02:33:37 PM
Yes .

Stay at a Marriott hotel. Earning or redeeming points at a Marriott hotel is by far the easiest method. ...
Donate points. ...
Buy points. ...
Earn points with a reward partner. ...
Transfer your points to another account.
DDMS: All About Mileage Expiration And Transfer Options For 57 Loyalty Programs: Keep Points From Expiring And Bring Them Back To Life! (https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/mileage-expiration-guide-for-38-loyalty-programs-how-to-keep-your-points-from-expiring-and-how-to-bring-them-back-to-life-after-theyve-expired/)
"Note that transferring points and social media points do not count as activity."
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on April 10, 2019, 08:31:52 PM
DDMS: All About Mileage Expiration And Transfer Options For 57 Loyalty Programs: Keep Points From Expiring And Bring Them Back To Life! (https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/mileage-expiration-guide-for-38-loyalty-programs-how-to-keep-your-points-from-expiring-and-how-to-bring-them-back-to-life-after-theyve-expired/)
"Note that transferring points and social media points do not count as activity."
Not sure, but buying points works, I do have the credit cards, but I know first hand that buying points worked for family members.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: zagguru on April 11, 2019, 07:14:30 AM
https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/marriotts-2019-elite-thank-you-gift-initiative/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yitzyul on April 16, 2019, 03:44:31 PM
Made a reservation with 3 nights Ritz cert online. Called in a few weeks later to add on guest , was told "Cant add a guest" (have done numerous times). "Let me cancel and rebook for you and then I can add the guest"...SO I check my account a few seconds later and she didn't use certs she booked it with points at 85K x3 points per night. Call back and reps are clueless, "sorry hotel is now 85K per night"?

Any suggestions??
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: BarryLincoln on April 16, 2019, 04:58:05 PM
Made a reservation with 3 nights Ritz cert online. Called in a few weeks later to add on guest , was told "Cant add a guest" (have done numerous times). "Let me cancel and rebook for you and then I can add the guest"...SO I check my account a few seconds later and she didn't use certs she booked it with points at 85K x3 points per night. Call back and reps are clueless, "sorry hotel is now 85K per night"?

Any suggestions??
#Bonvoyed
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Denverite on April 16, 2019, 05:20:53 PM
Made a reservation with 3 nights Ritz cert online. Called in a few weeks later to add on guest , was told "Cant add a guest" (have done numerous times). "Let me cancel and rebook for you and then I can add the guest"...SO I check my account a few seconds later and she didn't use certs she booked it with points at 85K x3 points per night. Call back and reps are clueless, "sorry hotel is now 85K per night"?

Any suggestions??

Sorry, I don't have help now but I have had lots of better success recently calling hotels directly for these kinds of little changes.  They can totally add in the notes another person's name, at the front desk of the hotel.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: yitzyul on April 17, 2019, 09:18:51 AM
Sorry, I don't have help now but I have had lots of better success recently calling hotels directly for these kinds of little changes.  They can totally add in the notes another person's name, at the front desk of the hotel.

Good Idea!

End of the story is, I was on phone with Indian rep, who transferred me to his supervisor, an even worse speaking english Indian rep, but after on the phone for over 1.5 hours he cashed the certs for 60K and then credited my account the difference in points and rebooked it.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Dave.brown0112 on April 17, 2019, 01:13:00 PM
Nothing about Marriott makes sense these days.... Technically they should be able to detach the certificate and use points instead but you will most likely need a very competent rep so I would try HUCA but honestly Im not surprised that they are saying it cant be done
I ended up calling 6 times and got the same response from everyone. Even the competent ones.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: greatdeals on April 22, 2019, 12:20:31 PM
where do I find my free night that i got from the spg card on account anniversary?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Moshe26 on April 22, 2019, 12:27:40 PM
where do I find my free night that i got from the spg card on account anniversary?
should be on your Marriott account under unused certificates. title should be "Amex consumer FNA up to 35k points"
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on April 30, 2019, 03:19:34 PM
The Points Guy: Marriott Makes No-Notice Change to Points Advance.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/marriott-changes-points-advance/
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on May 03, 2019, 10:47:32 AM
https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-ceo-cancer/

Did the noise around the edges create some stress? 
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on May 03, 2019, 10:48:21 AM
No need to go there just delete your comment it is out of line
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on May 03, 2019, 12:10:09 PM
https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-ceo-cancer/

Did the noise around the edges create some stress?
It's sad to hear when anyone has cancer. My only positive outlook here, is maybe he'll step down, and someone with a brain will step in. You should be in good health Arne.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Denverite on May 07, 2019, 06:55:12 PM
should be on your Marriott account under unused certificates. title should be "Amex consumer FNA up to 35k points"

Where would I see that? Will it pop up on the main "Overview" page like it used to before the merger?

I logged in  I keep waiting for it to show up so I can close my cc...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on May 07, 2019, 08:53:30 PM
Where would I see that? Will it pop up on the main "Overview" page like it used to before the merger?

I logged in  I keep waiting for it to show up so I can close my cc...
It's in the Activity tab!
Site is choppy as always
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Yehudaa on May 08, 2019, 12:09:34 AM
A friend just called to convert his old 7 night cert to a new one. In true Bonvoy style they accidentally refunded him 270k points and issued a new cert. Is there a risk for him to use the cert (and risk a rep catching the mistake) before transferring out the points?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on May 08, 2019, 12:13:27 AM
A friend just called to convert his old 7 night cert to a new one. In true Bonvoy style they accidentally refunded him 270k points and issued a new cert. Is there a risk for him to use the cert (and risk a rep catching the mistake) before transferring out the points?
No way to tell fore sure.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on May 08, 2019, 12:44:24 AM
A friend just called to convert his old 7 night cert to a new one. In true Bonvoy style they accidentally refunded him 270k points and issued a new cert. Is there a risk for him to use the cert (and risk a rep catching the mistake) before transferring out the points?
..... most likely wont in the near future, they are just so sloppy at stuff!

Many times you'll need to clear your  browser cache and cookies to show the actual amount of points on your account. Opening and closing your browser wont help. The app is better at this.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: dealben on May 12, 2019, 11:06:02 PM
Anyone have any info / experience as to how long it takes for the free night to post after the AF hits?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on May 13, 2019, 12:16:35 AM
So your answer is 4-5 weeks.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Denverite on May 13, 2019, 05:04:51 PM
So your answer is 4-5 weeks.

My anniversary was April 2nd and I still haven’t received it but I went back and found the email and they write in the email that it will be there in 8-12 weeks! Uggh I wanted to use it in early June and it looks like that isn’t going to happen...
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on May 14, 2019, 10:45:41 AM
My anniversary was April 2nd and I still haven’t received it but I went back and found the email and they write in the email that it will be there in 8-12 weeks! Uggh I wanted to use it in early June and it looks like that isn’t going to happen...
Meh, don't give up just yet. Don't count on it either, but there's hope.
Title: How to stay regular room but access Sheraton Lounge?
Post by: SoCal Dude on May 14, 2019, 02:02:03 PM
I'm staying 6 nights at Sheraton in Arlington, TX in June.  $169 rate for room, $199 for Sheraton Lounge Level.
Is there a way to gain Sheraton Lounge access w/my standard rate?
Any/all tips & tricks are much appreciated.  I'm solo.
Post or direct message.  Thx!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on May 16, 2019, 09:12:24 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=0&v=_RF7BrQ1jhc
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on May 16, 2019, 09:13:34 AM
I'm staying 6 nights at Sheraton in Arlington, TX in June.  $169 rate for room, $199 for Sheraton Lounge Level.
Is there a way to gain Sheraton Lounge access w/my standard rate?
Any/all tips & tricks are much appreciated.  I'm solo.
Post or direct message.  Thx!
If you get upgraded and that is usually likely if there are available rooms and you have elite status.
Asking never hurts.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: eve on May 17, 2019, 02:28:20 PM
Hi all,

I’m having an issue with a cat 1-5 certificate I made a reservation ( before we knew anything) at the Calgary hotel in Canada as per Dans advice since it was a cat 5 hotel. I just cancelled it and marriot put it back as a cat 1-5 again instead of the new categories. Anyone have this issue and can advise me how to fix this?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: Elikip on May 19, 2019, 02:48:52 AM
The Points Guy: Marriott Makes No-Notice Change to Points Advance.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/marriott-changes-points-advance/
Just curious, why is the OP trying to use the points advance option if he has the required points in his account? What's the gain in booking via this method?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mordechain on May 19, 2019, 04:13:11 AM
Does anyone know if the expiration date of a category 1-4 7 night cert can still be extended?
Does the stay have to take place by the expiration date,or just the booking?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: mochjas on May 19, 2019, 06:38:46 AM
Does anyone know if the expiration date of a category 1-4 7 night cert can still be extended?
Does the stay have to take place by the expiration date,or just the booking?
they can be extended once for a year. This is done when you call them to convert it to a new certificate (meaning new categories) and yes you can book for after expiration
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: md on May 20, 2019, 02:58:38 PM
has anyone had an issue lately having an additional guest check-in on a plat account? I called to make a reservation, and was told that the recent changes require that if the non-platinum guest wants to check-in, then the reservation needs to be put in their name, without having the platinum a/c number on the reservation. & when the Plat member comes to the hotel, then he can have his number added.
Is this accurate?

note, this was for a cash stay.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: ludmila on May 22, 2019, 01:17:28 AM
has anyone had an issue lately having an additional guest check-in on a plat account? I called to make a reservation, and was told that the recent changes require that if the non-platinum guest wants to check-in, then the reservation needs to be put in their name, without having the platinum a/c number on the reservation. & when the Plat member comes to the hotel, then he can have his number added.
Is this accurate?

note, this was for a cash stay.
Not in my case, I did it last week without a problem, booked for my brother, but it was a points stay, not sure if it makes a difference.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: KSMH on May 22, 2019, 07:41:44 AM
I never had an issue.

Marriott's policy is to officially allow gifting of some award stays.

In most cases just call the hotel directly to add a guest to the reservation.
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: SoCal Dude on May 22, 2019, 09:42:30 AM
If you get upgraded and that is usually likely if there are available rooms and you have elite status.
Asking never hurts.
Thx!  I got the Dans Deal 100K Bonvoy card...maybe that'll help.  I thought there's an easier way.
The lounge access for 6 days would be awesome!
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: hvaces42 on May 23, 2019, 12:09:42 PM
Website and App down...anyone know whats going on?
Title: Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
Post by: as2 on May 23, 2019, 12:12:04 PM
Website and App down...anyone know whats going on?
We all got BONVOYED.