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Title: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: jj1000 on May 15, 2018, 05:53:51 PM
Can we please not talk about this on DDF?
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 15, 2018, 05:55:05 PM
What/who is this?
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: jj1000 on May 15, 2018, 05:58:31 PM
What/who is this?

1st rule of fight club?

twitter.com/CloeCouture/status/996218489831473152
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 15, 2018, 06:00:49 PM
Laurel
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: jj1000 on May 15, 2018, 06:01:49 PM
Laurel
Ugh, Idiot. You must've seen the gold dress too.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 15, 2018, 06:02:48 PM
Ugh, Idiot. You must've seen the gold dress too.
Dress?
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: LoLo on May 15, 2018, 06:23:25 PM
Sure, not gonna talk about this on DDF.

It's definitely Yanny though.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: davidrotts63 on May 15, 2018, 06:30:59 PM
Lanny? Yaurel?
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: chevron on May 15, 2018, 06:38:46 PM
cant you guys just google ? this is DDF not DDFB

https://www.google.com/search?q=Yanny+or+Laurel&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: skyguy918 on May 15, 2018, 06:39:27 PM
I heard yanny the first few times, then it switched to laurel and I can't switch back.

The sound is not identical to what you'd hear if someone said either word. Therefore your brain does some 'translation/filtering' to get you to something mildly recognizable. When that filtering tends toward the higher range of the frequency in the clip you get yanny, and lower end gets laurel. Or something like that. That's my guess at least.

I'm sure there will eventually be a breakdown by one of the educational YouTube channels on the topic that will explain it much better.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: davidrotts63 on May 15, 2018, 06:44:13 PM
I hear both, it depends on angle, volume etc.
According to the "experts" on YouTube its about the pitch
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: skyguy918 on May 15, 2018, 06:50:15 PM
I hear both, it depends on angle, volume etc.
According to the "experts" on YouTube its about the pitch
Pitch is frequency. Though apparently I had it backwards as to each is high and which is low.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Mordyk on May 15, 2018, 06:50:58 PM
Laurel. I saw the gold dress and and saw blue and grey sneakers.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 15, 2018, 07:07:02 PM
See if you hear both?
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Essen est zich on May 15, 2018, 07:11:30 PM
https://youtu.be/c3GNT8Ac050
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Essen est zich on May 15, 2018, 07:12:06 PM
https://youtu.be/c3GNT8Ac050
Explanation of ppl hear differently. He awnsers in last minute.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 15, 2018, 07:16:51 PM
If you hear yanny go have a hearing test.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: davidrotts63 on May 15, 2018, 07:28:25 PM
If you hear yanny go have a hearing test.

Thought so too first, then I listened on different devices, different angles etc...
I'm for the most part still #laurel
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: skyguy918 on May 15, 2018, 07:28:39 PM
Explanation of ppl hear differently. He awnsers in last minute.
That's not a full explanation. It's just a statement of how, not why. It was the same thing as the tweet CM posted before, just in video form.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 15, 2018, 07:44:33 PM
Thought so too first, then I listened on different devices, different angles etc...
I'm for the most part still @laurel
You have hearing loss at some frequencies.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Lou Bob on May 15, 2018, 07:47:14 PM
Laurel.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Definitions on May 15, 2018, 08:57:41 PM
Wow that's amazing. Started off hearing yanny, then changed to Laurel after watching a couple different videos, went back to yanny. Now I can choose what to hear based on which part I focus on.

Reminds me of שמור וזכור בדיבור אחד.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: davidrotts63 on May 15, 2018, 09:00:41 PM
This is a new one http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5afb82e69836a/VID-20180515-WA0116.mp4 (http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5afb82e69836a/VID-20180515-WA0116.mp4)
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: etech0 on May 15, 2018, 09:51:16 PM
I pronounce it "data", not "data"
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 15, 2018, 09:56:47 PM
I pronounce it "data", not "data"
...but what do you hear?  :P
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: yelped on May 15, 2018, 10:02:31 PM
Wow. I heard Yanny very clearly the first time around, now a couple of hours later, all I hear is Laurel.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: as2 on May 15, 2018, 10:14:31 PM
Wow. I heard Yanny very clearly the first time around, now a couple of hours later, all I hear is Laurel.
Same device? It really all depends on how you are hearing it as far as the pitch. From what I've seen, yanny will always be high pitch, and laurel low. There is a hauge range of pitch in the audio clip, and depending on which is more dominant in your clip/speakers and which is more dominant in your brain, it will vary.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: yelped on May 15, 2018, 11:22:17 PM
Same device? It really all depends on how you are hearing it as far as the pitch. From what I've seen, yanny will always be high pitch, and laurel low. There is a hauge range of pitch in the audio clip, and depending on which is more dominant in your clip/speakers and which is more dominant in your brain, it will vary.
Same device. Now all I hear is Yanny. No matter the volume or the distance to device.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: sillypainter on May 15, 2018, 11:37:47 PM
No matter what i do I hear Laurel.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2018, 01:58:45 AM
https://www.vox.com/2018/5/15/17357684/yanny-or-laurel-audio
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Yehuda57 on May 16, 2018, 07:35:14 AM
This one changed it all for me.

Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Yordai Dooma on May 16, 2018, 08:51:34 AM
I heard yanny. Then late last night it switched to laurel and could not hear yanny.
Now its back to yanny again this morning and i cant hear laurel no matter what i do
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 16, 2018, 08:54:52 AM
I heard yanny. Then late last night it switched to laurel and could not hear yanny.
Now its back to yanny again this morning and i cant hear laurel no matter what i do
What until tonight and it will switch back.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: etech0 on May 16, 2018, 09:10:11 AM
Laurel on laptop, Yanny on desktop
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Ephraimh on May 16, 2018, 08:31:28 PM
Yanny in the morning, Laurel now at night with headache + 2 Motrin’s..

I totally subscribe to the Yanny for younger (rested?) ears and Laurel for older (tired?) ears theory.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 16, 2018, 08:41:08 PM
Yanny in the morning, Laurel now at night with headache + 2 Motrin’s..

I totally subscribe to the Yanny for younger (rested?) ears and Laurel for older (tired?) ears theory.
At the same time FOX had it on TV it was Yanny and on the laptop it was Laurel.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Baruch on May 16, 2018, 08:48:06 PM
I only hear Laurel, no matter how hard I try. (And the dress is black and blue)
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 16, 2018, 08:53:07 PM
I only hear Laurel, no matter how hard I try. (And the dress is black and blue)
Did you listen at different pitches?
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: 12HRS on May 16, 2018, 08:53:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/7SIH5d1.jpg)
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: TimT on May 16, 2018, 08:57:30 PM
Are 2 people standing together listening from the same device hearing different things ?
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: 12HRS on May 16, 2018, 08:59:24 PM
Are 2 people standing together listening from the same device hearing different things ?

My wife only heard Yanny the entire time regardless of the pitch changes, while I heard some of each.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 16, 2018, 09:04:20 PM
Are 2 people standing together listening from the same device hearing different things ?
Yes.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Baruch on May 16, 2018, 09:14:59 PM
Did you listen at different pitches?
On different pitches I was able to hear yanny
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Baruch on May 16, 2018, 09:16:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/7SIH5d1.jpg)
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: yuds70 on May 16, 2018, 09:31:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/7SIH5d1.jpg)
Yaurel
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: davidrotts63 on May 16, 2018, 10:30:50 PM
I feel this is important: the dress was GOLD and BLUE. Yup. Gold and blue.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Freecountry on May 17, 2018, 01:47:26 AM
Can we take an official DDF poll
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: davidrotts63 on May 17, 2018, 01:48:10 AM
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/laurel
Here is where is from. Read the word ya'll
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Dan on May 17, 2018, 07:08:26 AM
.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180517/30a50769f4cc8d45766e88b9fb80a080.jpg)
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Moshe26 on May 17, 2018, 10:17:52 AM

Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 17, 2018, 02:33:25 PM
Ugh, Idiot. You must've seen the gold dress too.
How do you want your crow served?  :P
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Toasted on May 17, 2018, 04:00:49 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/16/upshot/audio-clip-yanny-laurel-debate.html
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: BP16 on May 17, 2018, 04:06:55 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/16/upshot/audio-clip-yanny-laurel-debate.html
I hear Yelly
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Dan on May 17, 2018, 04:11:31 PM
How do you want your crow served?  :P
Because of this?
?s=19
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Baruch on May 17, 2018, 04:17:39 PM
I only hear Laurel, no matter how hard I try. (And the dress is black and blue)
Update, I can now change it back and forth at will.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: yesitsme on May 17, 2018, 04:58:59 PM
you should add a poll
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 17, 2018, 05:22:00 PM
Because of this?
No because of the person who started it.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: jj1000 on May 17, 2018, 05:32:37 PM
No because of the person who started it.
The person who said she hears Yanny?

Check out @CloeCouture’s Tweet: ?s=09
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 17, 2018, 05:40:26 PM
The person who said she hears Yanny?
That is not the OP. The OP recorded the robotic pronounciation of the word "Laurel" from vocabulary.com.

Now answer the damn question!!!  :)
How do you want your crow cooked.  :P
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: yesitsme on May 17, 2018, 05:40:34 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanny_or_Laurel

Benjamin Munson, a professor of hearing sciences at the University of Minnesota, suggested that "Yanny" can be heard in higher frequencies while "Laurel" can be heard in lower frequencies.[11] Older people, whose ability to hear higher frequencies is more likely to have degraded, usually hear "Laurel"
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: sky121 on May 17, 2018, 05:59:49 PM
I hear Yelly
My mom does too. Strange.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: luckyluck on May 17, 2018, 06:02:06 PM
That is not the OP. The OP recorded the robotic pronounciation of the word "Laurel" from vocabulary.com.

Now answer the damn question!!!  :)
How do you want your crow cooked.  :P

And that OP heard Yanny
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 17, 2018, 06:24:40 PM
And that OP heard Yanny
What you heard does not matter.
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Dr Moose on May 17, 2018, 06:41:21 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/7SIH5d1.jpg)
I see Yanny, but hear Laurel.

Classic case of קרי וכתיב
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: aygart on May 17, 2018, 07:27:55 PM
(https://t.gyazo.com/teams/lowerwatt/cf14c2889ffa317e103f07ecdd0b3ff9.png)
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 17, 2018, 07:47:28 PM
(https://t.gyazo.com/teams/lowerwatt/cf14c2889ffa317e103f07ecdd0b3ff9.png)
...but I hear Laurel.  :-\
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: gingyguy on May 17, 2018, 07:57:53 PM
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 17, 2018, 08:10:54 PM
Like this?

Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: gingyguy on May 17, 2018, 08:15:11 PM
Like this?
please kind sir would you share that knowledge with me
ETA achh who needs your help figured it out by myself
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 17, 2018, 08:17:40 PM
please kind sir would you share that knowledge with me
I am the wrong guy to ask. I just delete what I don't want to show. Probably a better way to do it. @aygart would know as he is Mr Tweet!!!
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: gingyguy on May 17, 2018, 08:18:27 PM
I am the wrong guy to ask. I just delete what I don't want to show. Probably a better way to do it. @aygart would know as he is Mr Tweet!!!
yep thats what i just did
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 17, 2018, 08:19:38 PM
yep thats what i just did
Now show @Dan and @jj1000  :)
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: gingyguy on May 17, 2018, 09:38:47 PM
Now show @Dan and @jj1000  :)
Can we please not talk about this on DDF?
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: Baruch on May 17, 2018, 11:13:35 PM
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/yanny

Very cute
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: gingyguy on May 17, 2018, 11:22:13 PM
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/yanny

Very cute
gotta listen to the audio as well
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: sky121 on May 18, 2018, 06:41:34 PM
As seen on whatsapp

"As a Jew living in the 21st Century, it’s hard to imagine that any proclamations made today outlining new Jewish laws incumbent upon us, even if uttered by the greatest gedolim of our generation or Gd him/herself, would ever be unequivocally accepted by Klal Yisroel and subsequently passed down to each new generation.
We live during a time where no singular truth is accepted by all. This refers to the truth proposed by rabbis of our generation, but also to the truth of Gd’s laws – at least in the sense that our individual interpretations of Gd’s words are what become our truth – even if the meanings we ascribe to the words of Torah aren’t universally accepted as such.
We all hear what we want to hear in 2018. Nothing could showcase this more than the current raging online debate of Yanny vs. Laurel. Some people listening to a computerized voice hear it say the name “Yanny,” while others distinctively hear the voice say “Laurel.” Each side of the spectrum is convinced that they are correct and can’t imagine that someone else could hear something that should be completely obvious (the obvious being whatever they heard).
This highlights what a miracle it was that Gd’s thunderings during Matan Torah were given and understood in every language known to the world (I believe 70 in total). Today we cannot even hear 2 words and agree, yet when Gd gave us the Torah we all heard his pronouncements with complete clarity – a feat even Google Translate has yet to accomplish.
It seems to me that one of our tasks today is to get back to that level of understanding. Not an understanding that we all necessarily agree upon – obviously the different factions of Jews walked away from Matan Torah with various interpretations of the same laws, as evidenced by the many different legitimate Jewish communities we have today.
Rather, the understanding I refer to is the common understanding that we can all be following the same Torah, yet be attuned to slightly different nuances and frequencies that are legitimately present. We can be “Yannys” or “Laurels” and still all be right. The miracle of Shavuos wasn’t just the giving of the Torah, but the giving of mutual understanding and respect.
May we merit to get back to such a place in the coming year"
Title: Re: Yanny or Laurel
Post by: zh cohen on May 22, 2018, 07:57:21 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Chabad/status/997462126309662721