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Title: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: SearchGuy on June 06, 2018, 11:30:09 AM
I use the Nest Hello, and there is an option to schedule the camera on/off, which is cool for Shabbos, it works automatically, then you can turn schedule on and off when you are away for Shabbos
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: stooges44 on November 05, 2018, 02:04:59 PM
Looking into these now, the reviews online are so varied it's almost worthless.

I don't have a wired bell so the nest is not even an option for me, can anyone give an honest opinion about the ring?

How long does the battery last? What do you with it for Shabbos? Do you pay for the cloud recording?

TIA





Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: stooges44 on November 07, 2018, 10:56:22 AM
Looking into these now, the reviews online are so varied it's almost worthless.

I don't have a wired bell so the nest is not even an option for me, can anyone give an honest opinion about the ring?

How long does the battery last? What do you with it for Shabbos? Do you pay for the cloud recording?

TIA

Anyone?
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: ual902 on December 10, 2018, 04:53:12 AM
Ring, Nest, Comelit which one?  a Cat5 is run from the doorbell  to the router, so POE, Wifi  are all options.
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: emineh17 on December 10, 2018, 10:16:39 AM
Ring, Nest, Comelit which one?  a Cat5 is run from the doorbell  to the router, so POE, Wifi  are all options.
I would highly recommend the Nest Hello over the ring.
You cannot compare the quality and features.
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: ual902 on December 10, 2018, 01:14:25 PM
I would highly recommend the Nest Hello over the ring.
You cannot compare the quality and features.

Thanks
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: Geshmak25 on December 10, 2018, 01:58:47 PM
I use the Nest Hello, and there is an option to schedule the camera on/off, which is cool for Shabbos, it works automatically, then you can turn schedule on and off when you are away for Shabbos
Ring also has a schedule but the motion still shows up on the log.
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: zale on December 16, 2018, 11:22:36 PM
If you donít already have a wired traditional doorbell then Nest is not an option, unless you want to spend $500+ having a low-voltage technician set it up.
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: ual902 on December 17, 2018, 12:04:31 AM
If you donít already have a wired traditional doorbell then Nest is not an option, unless you want to spend $500+ having a low-voltage technician set it up.

 I'm the low voltage guy ;D and it is wired already.
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 17, 2018, 02:06:32 AM
Ring also has a schedule but the motion still shows up on the log.
Does nest motion show up also?
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: Geshmak25 on December 17, 2018, 08:57:48 AM
If you donít already have a wired traditional doorbell then Nest is not an option, unless you want to spend $500+ having a low-voltage technician set it up.
Yup I originally bought Ring Pro but didn't work due to low voltage so I returned and got Ring 2 instead. Works great, but the motion issue more annoying than those who have the wired version and can just turn off the power source externally.
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: emineh17 on December 17, 2018, 11:38:07 AM
Does nest motion show up also?
No. The camera turns off completely if you set the schedule.
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 17, 2018, 09:52:15 PM
No. The camera turns off completely if you set the schedule.
So definitely the way to go... Thx
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: Geshmak25 on December 17, 2018, 10:42:05 PM
So definitely the way to go... Thx
If you have enough voltage
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: EJB on December 17, 2018, 10:52:28 PM
If I have a vivint doorbell installed does that mean I likely have enough voltage for nest?
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: ual902 on December 18, 2018, 09:13:05 AM
Any recommendation for a cheap 10 inch refurbished Ipad or andriod tablet that would work with nest and hikvision apps to hang up in a kitchen?
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: stooges44 on December 24, 2018, 07:54:59 PM
Ring also has a schedule but the motion still shows up on the log.

So I set the schedule on my ring 2 to disable motion over Shabbos but based on what you said I still took out the battery each week. This past Shabbos I was away and I did not remove the battery and I noticed that for the duration of Shabbos there is nothing in the log.

Look at the attached you'll see there are no events from Friday at 1:27 when I left until Shabbos at 8:05 when I came back and I know for sure that at least one event should be there over Shabbos because a. I usually get one or two passing cars that set it off and b. the mailman always sets it off

So does that mean I no longer need to remove the battery?
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: Geshmak25 on December 24, 2018, 07:59:47 PM
So I set the schedule on my ring 2 to disable motion over Shabbos but based on what you said I still took out the battery each week. This past Shabbos I was away and I did not remove the battery and I noticed that for the duration of Shabbos there is nothing in the log.

Look at the attached you'll see there are no events from Friday at 1:27 when I left until Shabbos at 8:05 when I came back and I know for sure that at least one event should be there over Shabbos because a. I usually get one or two passing cars that set it off and b. the mailman always sets it off

So does that mean I no longer need to remove the battery?
Dunno, maybe they updated the programming. Should be easy to test it out during the week...
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: stooges44 on December 24, 2018, 09:36:15 PM
Dunno, maybe they updated the programming. Should be easy to test it out during the week...

No good, even with no logging or alerts it still sets off the infrared  :-\
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: yesitsme on December 24, 2018, 09:43:41 PM
No good, even with no logging or alerts it still sets off the infrared  :-\
which is not a problem, otherwise you cant walk in the streets.
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: stooges44 on December 24, 2018, 10:02:51 PM
which is not a problem, otherwise you cant walk in the streets.

I don't own the streets
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: yesitsme on December 24, 2018, 10:12:43 PM
I don't own the streets
so you turn on your neighbors lights?
point being there are feelings and there's halacha, if its problematic with halacha you gotta stay home since there are cameras all over the place.

A ruv explained to me why recording audio is a problem and recording visual is not a problem. but I didn't understand the difference.
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: Geshmak25 on December 24, 2018, 11:23:54 PM
which is not a problem, otherwise you cant walk in the streets.
Not so pashut that a psik reisha dilo nicha lei on a derabonon is mutar. AYLOR.
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: yesitsme on December 24, 2018, 11:28:17 PM
Not so pashut that a psik reisha dilo nicha lei on a derabonon is mutar. AYLOR.
A ruv explained to me why recording audio is a problem and recording visual is not a problem. but I didn't understand the difference.
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: Geshmak25 on December 24, 2018, 11:31:44 PM
Still AYLOR. Yours said ok, other may not agree.
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: yesitsme on December 24, 2018, 11:48:33 PM
Still AYLOR. Yours said ok, other may not agree.
when you find the one that says being recorded in the street is an issue, explain to me how they go out or they done.

my father had a guest and hse wouldn't pass the outside door in order not to be recorded
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: Geshmak25 on December 25, 2018, 07:04:39 AM
when you find the one that says being recorded in the street is an issue, explain to me how they go out or they done.

my father had a guest and hse wouldn't pass the outside door in order not to be recorded
I believe you would have to avoid the ones you know about, but you have no chiyuv to find out where all of the cameras/lights are. But you know about this one.
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: yesitsme on December 25, 2018, 09:23:24 AM
I believe you would have to avoid the ones you know about, but you have no chiyuv to find out where all of the cameras/lights are. But you know about this one.
FYI BP is under surveillance with kletzky cameras, so you stay put when you're in BP?
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: Geshmak25 on December 25, 2018, 09:35:25 AM
FYI BP is under surveillance with kletzky cameras, so you stay put when you're in BP?
AYLOR
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: Yonah on December 27, 2018, 08:35:19 AM
Any recommendation for a cheap 10 inch refurbished Ipad or andriod tablet that would work with nest and hikvision apps to hang up in a kitchen?

https://smile.amazon.com/Certified-Refurbished-Tablet-Hands-Free-Display/dp/B01MEG2HXR/ref=sr_1_acs_bss_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1545917679&sr=8-1-acs&keywords=fire+tablet

If you are a little tech saavy, you can figure out how to sideload standard android apps to the Fire
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: ual902 on December 27, 2018, 10:40:18 AM
https://smile.amazon.com/Certified-Refurbished-Tablet-Hands-Free-Display/dp/B01MEG2HXR/ref=sr_1_acs_bss_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1545917679&sr=8-1-acs&keywords=fire+tablet

If you are a little tech saavy, you can figure out how to sideload standard android apps to the Fire

Thanks I've seen lots of android 10inch tablets on ebay and Amazon.
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: myi on October 24, 2019, 04:39:57 AM
Very cool feature they added, you can't use a stolen piece from ring.

 https://forums.woot.com/t/ring-chime-or-chime-pro/478601/11
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: @Yehuda on November 07, 2019, 10:58:00 AM
Has anyone figured out yet whether the small battery in the Ring Pro still does anything if you cut power to the ring?
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: @Yehuda on November 07, 2019, 12:41:59 PM
Ring chat just told me:
"There is a small battery in the doorbell pro but it is not used to power the device it is used to save the settings." Upon probing further, I got: "Unfortunately I do not have any other information to provide, regarding the engineering of the device and the specifics of every component."
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: bubbles on November 07, 2019, 02:08:16 PM
I cut power to my pro and camera is completely dead
Title: Re: Video Doorbells (Nest, Ring etc.)
Post by: myi on November 08, 2019, 02:52:45 AM
https://techcrunch.com/2019/11/07/amazon-ring-doorbells-wifi-hackers/