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Title: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 07, 2018, 07:17:18 PM
supposed to take off over 2 hours ago but there was some sort of corrosive leak and had to deplane. Now they are waiting for new pilots. What kind of compensation should I get?  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Alexsei on June 07, 2018, 07:20:04 PM
shabbos?
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2018, 07:22:49 PM
Should qualify for Israel flight compensation law.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 07, 2018, 07:25:17 PM
Should qualify for Israel flight compensation law.
whats the gist of that? even for a delay of only 3-4 hours this would qualify?
Edit: current take off time leaves it at 4+ hours
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2018, 07:31:46 PM
You'll be lucky if it takes off at all.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 07, 2018, 07:36:43 PM
You'll be lucky if it takes off at all.
Well, they just rolled in a new plane...
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2018, 07:38:34 PM
Lucky!
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 07, 2018, 07:42:29 PM
Lucky!
Am I? According to what I quickly read, the law only comes into action if I takeoff 5+ hours after original takeoff time.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2018, 07:43:57 PM
I guess that depends on whether you want to be in Israel before Shabbos or not.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: nafnaf12 on June 07, 2018, 07:45:25 PM
shabbos?
+1
Unless you're staying at a hotel or eating out on Shabbos, most stores will be closed by the time you get to Jerusalem (assuming you're going to Jerusalem)

Feel free to Pm if there is anything I can do to help.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 07, 2018, 07:47:21 PM
I guess that depends on whether you want to be in Israel before Shabbos or not.
If i'm not mistaken, I believe even the 11 pm gets in before shabbos? (assuming you dont need to prepare meals etc.)
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2018, 07:48:37 PM
That flight is completely full.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 07, 2018, 07:51:30 PM
That flight is completely full.
Im sure, I was just speaking in general since you were concerned about Shabbos and it looks like this flight will take off before that (hopefully).
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 07, 2018, 09:16:43 PM
well, hate to say you were right Dan...flights not taking off till tomorrow afternoon? Best way to reschedule is to call, right?

Also, anything I need for the Israeli law?
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: JACKBLUE on June 07, 2018, 09:40:05 PM
well, hate to say you were right Dan...flights not taking off till tomorrow afternoon? Best way to reschedule is to call, right?

Also, anything I need for the Israeli law?
was he ever not right? He knows his stuff man!!
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 07, 2018, 09:45:31 PM
rescheduled for Sunday! Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2018, 09:50:30 PM
rescheduled for Sunday! Thanks guys!
Nesiah tova and enjoy the compensation!
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: zagguru on June 07, 2018, 09:56:48 PM
Nesiah tova and enjoy the compensation!

How much will the compensation be?
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2018, 09:59:45 PM
How much will the compensation be?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/airline-news/reader-question-el-al-owe-compensation-flight-8-diversion/
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 07, 2018, 10:00:07 PM
How much will the compensation be?
According to what i've seen, looks like a possible full refund and even more maybe? @Dan?
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 07, 2018, 10:01:41 PM
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/airline-news/reader-question-el-al-owe-compensation-flight-8-diversion/
so its ~3000 nis plus the refund for the flight or just the nis?
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 07, 2018, 11:13:24 PM
still waiting for the bags...said it could be 4 hours.... :-[
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: shapsam on June 08, 2018, 12:11:48 AM
so its ~3000 nis plus the refund for the flight or just the nis?
If you take the rebooked ticket you'll only get the 3080 ILS.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 08, 2018, 09:30:29 AM
They sent a "customer appreciation" email to fill out and presumably choose some sort of offer. Says to hold off until completing my travel which I was gonna do anyway (hold off until I figure out the Israeli law)
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 18, 2018, 06:56:22 PM
wrote to customer care and they responded:

"Please accept our apology for any inconvenience you experienced during the interruption of your travel plans.

As alternative options to your claim for compensation under Israeli Air Service Regulation, we would like to offer you a choice of a $1,000 (USD) United Travel Certificate* (redeemable and transferable toward the purchase of any United or United Express operated flight) or 30,000 United MileagePlus® miles (redeemable on flights operated by United, United Express or by Air Canada, ANA, Austrian, Lufthansa, SAS Scandinavian, Swiss, Thai and 20 additional Star Alliance partners worldwide.) 

If you desire one of these options, please let us know your preference and we'll facilitate delivery via e-mail within 3-5 business days.  However, if you still wish to pursue cash compensation of ILS3080.00 under the Israeli Law, please provide your banking information for a wire transfer.  Processing of your payment may take up to 6 weeks."

Thoughts? Seems like they try to get you to choose the certificate by saying 6 weeks for the other.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: zagguru on June 18, 2018, 06:59:37 PM
wrote to customer care and they responded:

"Please accept our apology for any inconvenience you experienced during the interruption of your travel plans.

As alternative options to your claim for compensation under Israeli Air Service Regulation, we would like to offer you a choice of a $1,000 (USD) United Travel Certificate* (redeemable and transferable toward the purchase of any United or United Express operated flight) or 30,000 United MileagePlus® miles (redeemable on flights operated by United, United Express or by Air Canada, ANA, Austrian, Lufthansa, SAS Scandinavian, Swiss, Thai and 20 additional Star Alliance partners worldwide.) 

If you desire one of these options, please let us know your preference and we'll facilitate delivery via e-mail within 3-5 business days.  However, if you still wish to pursue cash compensation of ILS3080.00 under the Israeli Law, please provide your banking information for a wire transfer.  Processing of your payment may take up to 6 weeks."

Thoughts? Seems like they try to get you to choose the certificate by saying 6 weeks for the other.

I think the no-brainer is ILS3080.00
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: JACKBLUE on June 18, 2018, 07:00:53 PM
I think the no-brainer is ILS3080.00
+100
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 18, 2018, 07:01:27 PM
Will you be flying UA over the next 12 months?
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 18, 2018, 07:01:40 PM
I think the no-brainer is ILS3080.00
what is 30k miles even worth these days?
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 18, 2018, 07:02:11 PM
Definitely don't take the miles.
Only question is the $1K cert vs $845 cash.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: zagguru on June 18, 2018, 07:03:09 PM
Is the voucher transferable?
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 18, 2018, 07:03:53 PM
Will you be flying UA over the next 12 months?
possibly, which is why i'm debating, but can also take the cash plus the $150 food credit e-ticket they also sent, which would still basically equal the $1000.

Also, I can still possibly choose the $200 certificate that they offered in the "automatic" email after the flight or you think I wont be able to after accepting one of these?
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 18, 2018, 07:04:21 PM
Is the voucher transferable?
Yes.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: zagguru on June 18, 2018, 07:04:56 PM
Yes.

In that case, he can prob sell it for more than $845 even if he chooses not travel in the next 12 months
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 18, 2018, 07:05:47 PM
@Dan how do you know its transferable? just wondering
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 18, 2018, 07:08:56 PM
Lol, I've been around this rodeo for a few years.

It's actually valid for a month past the expiration date and can be extended without too much hassle...
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 18, 2018, 07:09:38 PM
Lol, I've been around this rodeo for a few years.

It's actually valid for a month past the expiration date and can be extended without too much hassle...
how long is it usually "good" for?
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 18, 2018, 07:13:09 PM
Officially 12 months from date of issue.
Plus it works for 30 days after exp.
Can extend more with a refundable fare.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: nafnaf12 on June 18, 2018, 10:44:26 PM
Do definitely take the cert!
You have minimum 12 months to use it, and on the chance that you don't use it, you can sell it at 85% in 6 months from now, and if you can't find a buyer at 85% I always buy UA vouchers at 80%.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 20, 2018, 08:42:40 PM
Can I combine the certificate with other certificates such as the $100 certificate I got for not having my meal?
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2018, 08:51:22 PM
Yes, email them to combine them
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 20, 2018, 08:52:54 PM
Yes, email them to combine them
I meant as in using both when booking a flight, but also a good idea what you suggested...
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2018, 08:59:02 PM
You can't. That's why I wrote what you could do.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 20, 2018, 08:59:27 PM
You can't. That's why I wrote what you could do.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: nafnaf12 on June 21, 2018, 01:49:29 AM
You can't. That's why I wrote what you could do.
-1.
You can do it OTP
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: shimino1 on June 21, 2018, 02:39:35 AM
Take the money. After they send it to you, go to the compensation page and take the $200 voucher as well.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: farmbochur on June 21, 2018, 04:44:00 AM
-1.
You can do it OTP
Any such workaround for Delta vouchers?

Sent from my KFDOWI using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: nafnaf12 on June 21, 2018, 06:35:39 AM
Take the money. After they send it to you, go to the compensation page and take the $200 voucher as well.

Enjoy!
can do that even if he takes the cert.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 21, 2018, 08:05:53 AM
-1.
You can do it OTP

They're just going to combine the certs as I said you should do.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: nafnaf12 on June 21, 2018, 08:08:32 AM
They're just going to combine the certs as I said you should do.
are you sure?
A few weeks ago I used 3 vouchers for a flight (ewr-hkg)
And as I was giving the voucher the agent told me what my remaining balance is... Made no mention of the combination
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Dan on June 21, 2018, 08:10:16 AM
Only one voucher per person.
Anything more requires merging them behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: yelped on June 21, 2018, 10:41:14 AM
I know it's unrelated, but can El Al discount vouchers be combined? If so, how? Can it be booked via a TA, or only directly with El Al?
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 27, 2018, 07:04:33 PM
Thanks for the shoutout Dan! Ended up taking the voucher.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: nafnaf12 on June 27, 2018, 07:05:43 PM
Thanks for the shoutout Dan! Ended up taking the voucher.
I buy unlimited UA @80%
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on June 27, 2018, 07:06:33 PM
I buy unlimited UA @80%
well if I wasn't using it, I would've taken the cash  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: nafnaf12 on June 27, 2018, 07:11:59 PM
well if I wasn't using it, I would've taken the cash  ;)
I know I know, just reminding you :) if you don't end up using it pm me.
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on August 19, 2018, 11:00:15 AM
im back again...my return flight was delayed 7 hours (heres hoping for 8 hours though!)
I believe though if its between 5 and 8 hours you still get a refund on the ticket price just not the 3000 nis
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: yesitsme on August 19, 2018, 11:01:17 AM
im back again...my return flight was delayed 7 hours (heres hoping for 8 hours though!)
I believe though if its between 5 and 8 hours you still get a refund on the ticket price just not the 3000 nis
Pizza!!
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: shapsam on August 19, 2018, 06:18:37 PM
Take the money. After they send it to you, go to the compensation page and take the $200 voucher as well.

Enjoy!
Where's the compensation page, is it different than the costomer care page?
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: jr611 on August 19, 2018, 06:54:44 PM
Where's the compensation page, is it different than the costomer care page?
they send you a link when there's an issue with your flight
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: Justintime1155 on December 29, 2018, 09:03:41 PM
Does anyone know if the United will give you per passenger or its one 3080 payment per reservation. If yes how about a lap child do i get for that as well?
Title: Re: Anyone on delayed UA 84 EWR-TLV today? (6/7)
Post by: nafnaf12 on December 29, 2018, 09:08:05 PM
Does anyone know if the United will give you per passenger or its one 3080 payment per reservation. If yes how about a lap child do i get for that as well?
it's per pax. Not sure about lap child but I assume if he/she has their own ticket # you'll get as well