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Title: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2018, 06:53:50 PM
Positioning flight for Antarctica on Chanuka:

UA option: 60K miles.
UA CLE-EWR 5:31pm-7:09pm B73G First Class
2:46 connection
UA EWR-EZE 9:55pm-10:50am B764 Business Class seat 1D

Or
AA option: 57.5K miles.
AA CLE-MIA 1:45pm-4:43pm RJ145 Coach
6:02 connection
AA MIA-EZE 10:45pm-9:51am 77W Business Class seat 3A

UA Pros:
-WiFi and first class on both flights
-Polaris club kosher wine, food, shower, PJs
-Longer longhaul flight

UA cons:
-Need to light menora in CLE at 4:02pm (Plag hamincha, a b'dieved time but still can light with bracha) and hope there's no traffic in order to make a 5:31pm flight with checked luggage. There is a later flight CLE-EWR if I miss it, but it's an RJ-145 and has a tight connection. Unless there's someway to light in EWR or the Polaris Club daybed room :D
-767 seat
-Arrives into EZE an hour after AA

AA Pros:
-77W seat
-Arrives into EZE an hour before UA
-Can use the connection time to light menora at JJs

AA cons:
-3 hour flight in coach without wifi
-Shorter longhaul flight
-Longer total travel time
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Ergel on August 07, 2018, 06:58:10 PM
To me this is purely a halachik question for your posek
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 07, 2018, 06:59:30 PM
What makes you think you can light in a place you dont live in?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2018, 06:59:47 PM
To me this is purely a halachik question for your posek
I'll ask tonight, but all else being equal, what would you do?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Something Fishy on August 07, 2018, 07:01:58 PM
Don't forget the biggest detail: I will be on that MIA-EZE flight.

Now if that's a pro or a con, I don't know  ;D
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ushdadude on August 07, 2018, 07:04:08 PM
Don't forget the biggest detail: I will be on that MIA-EZE flight.

Now if that's a pro or a con, I don't know  ;D
Depends if you have enough luggage allowance
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: as2 on August 07, 2018, 07:32:04 PM
I'd go with AA. I feel like the cons aren't a huge deal, and assuming all is good with lighting, it will be less stressful.
I'd just make sure I don't get the seat in front of SF
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Iz on August 07, 2018, 09:37:53 PM
I don't see any heter to light in MIA, and Plag is a real b'di'eved, but why not have bnei bayis/shliach light for you at home?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2018, 09:48:43 PM
What makes you think you can light in a place you dont live in?
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10713.0
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Joe4007 on August 07, 2018, 11:43:34 PM
Positioning flight for Antarctica on Chanuka:

UA option: 60K miles.
UA CLE-EWR 5:31pm-7:09pm B73G First Class
2:46 connection
UA EWR-EZE 9:55pm-10:50am B764 Business Class seat 1D

Or
AA option: 57.5K miles.
AA CLE-MIA 1:45pm-4:43pm RJ145 Coach
6:02 connection
AA MIA-EZE 10:45pm-9:51am 77W Business Class seat 3A

UA Pros:
-WiFi and first class on both flights
-Polaris club kosher wine, food, shower, PJs
-Longer longhaul flight

UA cons:
-Need to light menora in CLE at 4:02pm (Plag hamincha, a b'dieved time but still can light with bracha) and hope there's no traffic in order to make a 5:31pm flight with checked luggage. There is a later flight CLE-EWR if I miss it, but it's an RJ-145 and has a tight connection. Unless there's someway to light in EWR or the Polaris Club daybed room :D
-767 seat
-Arrives into EZE an hour after AA

AA Pros:
-77W seat
-Arrives into EZE an hour before UA
-Can use the connection time to light menora at JJs

AA cons:
-3 hour flight in coach without wifi
-Shorter longhaul flight
-Longer total travel time
I'd go with AA. I'd also add a big pro for the AA option is that you don't connect in the northeast in December.
Depends if you have enough luggage allowance
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Something Fishy on August 07, 2018, 11:47:33 PM
Depends if you have enough luggage allowance

ROFL
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Yaalili on August 08, 2018, 12:17:19 AM
Would go with AA, much better seat.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: myi on August 08, 2018, 01:49:13 AM
UA Pros:
-WiFi and first class on both flights
   *I'm sure you can manage without wifi for 3 hours.
-Polaris club kosher wine, food, shower, PJs
    *Kosher wine at jj house, jjs home, jjs home, bring your own.
-Longer longhaul flight
    *No biggy an hour to two difference.

AA cons:
-3 hour flight in coach without wifi
 *Oy that should be the worst of your problems.
-Shorter longhaul flight
  *Worth it to go visit jj.
-Longer total travel time
   1hr difference.

  You can light candles or at least be יוצא with jj, spending chanakah with your brother, a good shower, good supper, and your pros, and of course something fishy, but no statues for aa so hoping your baggage is fine without stautes.


 Lastly have a safe flight on which ever one you chose.
   
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on August 08, 2018, 01:49:35 AM
Would go with AA, much better seat.
that's what counts, no?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: myi on August 08, 2018, 01:52:51 AM
that's what counts, no?
That's a nice additive, but who wants to feel like hes on a pressure cooker that has to check in and past security and all in 1hr-30min.
  He can nicely go on aa as it seems to be a better option and saves 2.5k  ;).
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mmgfarb on August 08, 2018, 05:53:15 AM
Positioning flight for Antarctica on Chanuka:

UA option: 60K miles.
UA CLE-EWR 5:31pm-7:09pm B73G First Class
2:46 connection
UA EWR-EZE 9:55pm-10:50am B764 Business Class seat 1D

Or
AA option: 57.5K miles.
AA CLE-MIA 1:45pm-4:43pm RJ145 Coach
6:02 connection
AA MIA-EZE 10:45pm-9:51am 77W Business Class seat 3A

UA Pros:
-WiFi and first class on both flights
-Polaris club kosher wine, food, shower, PJs
-Longer longhaul flight

UA cons:
-Need to light menora in CLE at 4:02pm (Plag hamincha, a b'dieved time but still can light with bracha) and hope there's no traffic in order to make a 5:31pm flight with checked luggage. There is a later flight CLE-EWR if I miss it, but it's an RJ-145 and has a tight connection. Unless there's someway to light in EWR or the Polaris Club daybed room :D
-767 seat
-Arrives into EZE an hour after AA

AA Pros:
-77W seat
-Arrives into EZE an hour before UA
-Can use the connection time to light menora at JJs

AA cons:
-3 hour flight in coach without wifi
-Shorter longhaul flight
-Longer total travel time
Halachic shaila aside, I'd go to with AA.
Being GS you would still worry about making it to CLE with enough time to check bags and make the flight? They wouldn't hold it for you?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on August 08, 2018, 08:09:38 AM
I could probably call in a GS favor to have them print the bag tags for me.

Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Ergel on August 08, 2018, 09:00:50 AM
All else being equal, probably AA, flight is still long enough for a night's rest. Long connection is saved by being able to leave the airport, see your brother and eat dinner. Better seat
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on August 08, 2018, 09:04:16 AM
For various reasons mentioned. I'd say it's a no brainer to go with AA.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on August 08, 2018, 09:06:51 AM
To me this is purely a halachik question for your posek
And the answer is that it's preferable to light and then eat at JJs.
AA it is.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on August 08, 2018, 09:08:45 AM
The fun part of this was getting that CLE-MIA flight added despite there being no saver award space for that leg.
Took 4 HUCAs for that to happen :)
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mmgfarb on August 08, 2018, 09:56:41 AM
The fun part of this was getting that CLE-MIA flight added despite there being no saver award space for that leg.
Took 4 HUCAs for that to happen :)
How exactly did you swing that?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Yaalili on August 08, 2018, 11:51:12 AM
Don't forget the biggest detail: I will be on that MIA-EZE flight.

Now if that's a pro or a con, I don't know  ;D

Guess the pros overweighed the con :D
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on August 08, 2018, 11:52:32 AM
How exactly did you swing that?
Had to break a marriage.
Interestingly the first couple marriages I tried to break were too strong, so I had to hunt down a weaker marriage.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mmgfarb on August 08, 2018, 11:53:48 AM
Had to break a marriage.
Interestingly the first couple marriages I tried to break were too strong, so I had to hunt down a weaker marriage.
It's so unfortunate when marriages break apart. If only we knew what city had the highest divorce rate.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Yaalili on August 08, 2018, 11:53:53 AM
Had to break a marriage.
Interestingly the first couple marriages I tried to break were too strong, so I had to hunt down a weaker marriage.

Lol ;)

Seen tons of married flights with AA lately.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 08, 2018, 11:55:53 AM
No way to leave the night before and add some shower class or Squites or Qsuites into this?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on August 08, 2018, 11:56:11 AM
It's so unfortunate when marriages break apart. If only we knew what city had the highest divorce rate.
A lack of basic necessities can often times lead to divorce.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mmgfarb on August 08, 2018, 12:00:13 PM
A lack of basic necessities can often times lead to divorce.
Lol, is this turning into the FD thread?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on August 08, 2018, 12:00:41 PM
Had to break a marriage.
Interestingly the first couple marriages I tried to break were too strong, so I had to hunt down a weaker marriage.

So is that your future career? Divorce counselor?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: yelped on August 08, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
So is that your future career? Divorce counselor?
Wrong thread. ;)
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: myi on August 08, 2018, 07:58:29 PM
And the answer is that it's preferable to light and then eat at JJs.
AA it is.
Well done good choice.
 Tell jj to start cooking and the red carpet out. ;)
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: 12HRS on August 09, 2018, 07:53:11 AM
Well done good choice.
 Tell jj to start cooking and the red carpet out. ;)

why would JJ cook when they can go out to eat as a biz expense
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on August 09, 2018, 08:16:58 AM
why would JJ cook when they can go out to eat as a biz expense

And the answer is that it's preferable to light and then eat at JJs.
AA it is.

Probably need to establish some semblance of kvius (if only kvius seudah) to be able to make a brocha on chanukah candles there.  Also need to stay next to the candles at least 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on August 09, 2018, 09:00:26 AM
Probably need to establish some semblance of kvius (if only kvius seudah) to be able to make a brocha on chanukah candles there.  Also need to stay next to the candles at least 30 minutes.
Indeed.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on August 09, 2018, 09:07:28 AM
Indeed.
So does that mean you'll actually be washing and benching there with ועל הניסים? Or is eating without washing also ok?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on August 09, 2018, 09:13:07 AM
I didn't get into the specifics yet, but right now this question is back in the air as the Rov didn't realize I was flying solo with my family staying at home.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on August 09, 2018, 09:35:09 AM
I didn't get into the specifics yet, but right now this question is back in the air as the Rov didn't realize I was flying solo with my family staying at home.
So two days yt?  ;)
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: jj1000 on August 09, 2018, 10:11:19 AM
Tell jj to start cooking and the red carpet out. ;)
Already peeling potatoes ;)
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: gingyguy on August 09, 2018, 10:15:48 AM
Already peeling potatoes ;)
i think you got the wrong idea... how about you start marinating the meat!
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: jj1000 on August 09, 2018, 10:31:02 AM
i think you got the wrong idea... how about you start marinating the meat!
Think Chanuka...
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: gingyguy on August 09, 2018, 10:40:37 AM
Think Chanuka...
lol
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on August 11, 2018, 09:37:10 PM
I didn't get into the specifics yet, but right now this question is back in the air as the Rov didn't realize I was flying solo with my family staying at home.
Back to the UA flight.
Better to light with a bracha after plag hamincha with the family at home than at JJs without family.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on August 12, 2018, 05:48:12 PM
Do I buy both flights in case of NYC weather and eat the $150 AA redeposit fee if there are no issues?
Hmm...
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on August 12, 2018, 10:29:54 PM
How about positioning from somewhere else, that might work better for your family (while you are away at work) and for you?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on August 12, 2018, 10:34:52 PM
How about positioning from somewhere else, that might work better for your family (while you are away at work) and for you?
No place is easier for the family than CLE.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: myi on August 13, 2018, 12:43:55 AM
Back to the UA flight.
Better to light with a bracha after plag hamincha with the family at home than at JJs without family.
Wow very impressive family comes before anything.

Already peeling potatoes ;)
It seems like I will be heading your way for those extra potatoes you peeled, just freeze them till i make it there.  ;)
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ushdadude on August 13, 2018, 10:34:45 AM
Wow very impressive family comes before anything.
well....before most things..not a trip to Antarctica though ;D
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mochjas on August 29, 2018, 02:04:20 PM
Now that @Dan is finished we should turn this into the what flight should I take master thread.

I'll go:

Im flying from EWR-DTW for an NBA game

There is a 2 PM flight and a 3 PM flight

Both are 10K UA

Pros of the 2 PM:
First class is completely sold out (all other flights that week dont have more than 1 seat missing) so Im thinking The team booked first class for their staff maybe or some people who cant make it on the team flight and this could be a good opportunity to get a hook up

Cons: will be tough to leave work that early to make the flight and no first class seat for me

3 PM Pros:
Most likely will get the first class seat and have more time at work (yes for me thats a PRO)

Cons: Miss out on possible Hook up/ celebrity sighting
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Yaalili on August 29, 2018, 02:30:41 PM
3pm.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: eliteflyer on August 29, 2018, 03:21:37 PM
Positioning flight for Antarctica on Chanuka:

UA option: 60K miles.
UA CLE-EWR 5:31pm-7:09pm B73G First Class
2:46 connection
UA EWR-EZE 9:55pm-10:50am B764 Business Class seat 1D

Or
AA option: 57.5K miles.
AA CLE-MIA 1:45pm-4:43pm RJ145 Coach
6:02 connection
AA MIA-EZE 10:45pm-9:51am 77W Business Class seat 3A

UA Pros:
-WiFi and first class on both flights
-Polaris club kosher wine, food, shower, PJs
-Longer longhaul flight

UA cons:
-Need to light menora in CLE at 4:02pm (Plag hamincha, a b'dieved time but still can light with bracha) and hope there's no traffic in order to make a 5:31pm flight with checked luggage. There is a later flight CLE-EWR if I miss it, but it's an RJ-145 and has a tight connection. Unless there's someway to light in EWR or the Polaris Club daybed room :D
-767 seat
-Arrives into EZE an hour after AA

AA Pros:
-77W seat
-Arrives into EZE an hour before UA
-Can use the connection time to light menora at JJs

AA cons:
-3 hour flight in coach without wifi
-Shorter longhaul flight
-Longer total travel time

Don't know if it changes the analysis, but there's also F space open on AA 931 (MIA-EZE 10:45pm-9:51am) on Dec. 6th.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on August 29, 2018, 03:27:12 PM
Don't know if it changes the analysis, but there's also F space open on AA 931 (MIA-EZE 10:45pm-9:51am) on Dec. 6th.
Doesn't seem like F is worth the premium on the 77W.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: eliteflyer on August 29, 2018, 03:54:33 PM
Doesn't seem like F is worth the premium on the 77W.
That's what I told the shviger.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: whYME on August 29, 2018, 04:03:54 PM
we should turn this into the what flight should I take master thread.
Or the #firstWorldProblems thread (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji13.png)
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 08, 2018, 11:01:55 AM
Option 1:
UA EZE-EWR 9:00p-5:50a B764 J

Option 2:
UA EZE-IAH 10:20p-5:45a B772 J
2:30 connection
UA IAH-LGA 8:15a-12:34p A320 F

Option 3:
UA EZE-IAH 10:20p-5:45a B772 J
1:40 connection
UA IAH-EWR 7:25a-11:44a B772 J ("F")

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Option 1 pros: Direct flight. Arrives earliest, by far. Direct aisle access and bulkhead available.
Option 1 cons: B764 seat is quite lousy, especially for someone of my height. Not sure I'll be able to sleep at all.

Option 2 pros: B772 has a way better and roomier seat. Slightly later departure allows me to head to a restaurant for dinner in EZE.
Option 2 cons: Connecting flight - arrival in IAH is the same time as Option 1 arrives in EWR. Will have a seatmate, so with I'll climb or will be climbed over. Need to do the customs and rechecking dance in IAH. 3 hours in an A320 is just not that enticing. Arrives LGA, which is less convenient for me than EWR. I arrive home around 2:30 before Shabbos, which is risky (especially in the winter).

Option 3 pros: Arrive earlier, around 3:30 to Shabbos. B777 > A320.
Option 3 cons: IAH connection is quite tight for customs and rechecking. Still not a ton of time before Shabbos.

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I think it boils down to this: is a way better bed worth the hassle and late Friday arrival? I must say I'm leaning towards Option 1.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 08, 2018, 11:08:27 AM
Option 1:
UA EZE-EWR 9:00p-5:50a B764 J

Option 2:
UA EZE-IAH 10:20p-5:45a B772 J
2:30 connection
UA IAH-LGA 8:15a-12:34p A320 F

Option 3:
UA EZE-IAH 10:20p-5:45a B772 J
1:40 connection
UA IAH-EWR 7:25a-11:44a B772 J ("F")

-------

Option 1 pros: Direct flight. Arrives earliest, by far. Direct aisle access and bulkhead available.
Option 1 cons: B764 seat is quite lousy, especially for someone of my height. Not sure I'll be able to sleep at all.

Option 2 pros: B772 has a way better and roomier seat. Slightly later departure allows me to head to a restaurant for dinner in EZE.
Option 2 cons: Connecting flight - arrival in IAH is the same time as Option 1 arrives in EWR. Will have a seatmate, so with I'll climb or will be climbed over. Need to do the customs and rechecking dance in IAH. 3 hours in an A320 is just not that enticing. Arrives LGA, which is less convenient for me than EWR. I arrive home around 2:30 before Shabbos, which is risky (especially in the winter).

Option 3 pros: Arrive earlier, around 3:30 to Shabbos. B777 > A320.
Option 3 cons: IAH connection is quite tight for customs and rechecking. Still not a ton of time before Shabbos.

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I think it boils down to this: is a way better bed worth the hassle and late Friday arrival? I must say I'm leaning towards Option 1.

I like 3.
How is it 3:30 to Shabbos?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 08, 2018, 11:10:17 AM
I like 3.
How is it 3:30 to Shabbos?

Takes at least an hour from landing till I get home, and Shabbos is at 4:15.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 08, 2018, 11:11:26 AM
Takes at least an hour from landing till I get home, and Shabbos is at 4:15.
Eh, that's all part of the cheshbon. landing 5:15 before candlelighting is fine IMHO.
Better int'l seat, great domestic seat, 1:40 connection is 100% fine with GE, no brainer given that you're not flying with kids.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 08, 2018, 11:19:11 AM
Option 4: Fly to YUL and take boat all the way down

You mean YQY :P

In any case, this is for the return.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Yaalili on October 08, 2018, 11:25:11 AM
Option 1 or 3.

Is the 764 J seat that bad? Have not flown it.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 08, 2018, 11:26:16 AM
Is the 764 J seat that bad? Have not flown it.

Yep, so they say. Short, narrow, and cramped.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 08, 2018, 11:28:43 AM
Option 1 or 3.

Is the 764 J seat that bad? Have not flown it.
It's not that bad, though I'm way shorter than the giant fish. Definitely less spacious than the 772 though.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Yaalili on October 08, 2018, 11:39:23 AM
I see size now, 764 is 63 and 772 is 66 bed.

IAH not a new airport for you. Though you may have time to check out the Polaris IAH.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 08, 2018, 11:50:06 AM
I see size now, 764 is 63 and 772 is 66 bed.
Hence option 3 being a no brainer for fishy.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: eliteflyer on October 08, 2018, 12:25:44 PM
I say option 1 is best given 1) bias in favor of non-stop flight (even without kids), 2) desire to avoid winter Friday afternoon travel, 3) earlier arrival home and 4) to the extent you're troubled about missing out on dinner in EZE, Asian in EZE closed, so you won't be missing out on that restaurant (and don't you have prepacked meals from the cruise?). If you're concerned about not being able to sleep on the flight, the earlier arrival time gives time to take a nap + you're arriving into Shabbos, which hopefully gives you an opportunity to catch up on sleep.

OTOH, if you take 2 or 3, I think my parents will be on the same flight to IAH.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: efflpetzel on October 09, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
Back to the UA flight.
Better to light with a bracha after plag hamincha with the family at home than at JJs without family.
Why don't you book with SQ for 50k
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: efflpetzel on October 09, 2018, 11:51:13 AM
Option 1:
UA EZE-EWR 9:00p-5:50a B764 J

Option 2:
UA EZE-IAH 10:20p-5:45a B772 J
2:30 connection
UA IAH-LGA 8:15a-12:34p A320 F

Option 3:
UA EZE-IAH 10:20p-5:45a B772 J
1:40 connection
UA IAH-EWR 7:25a-11:44a B772 J ("F")

-------

Option 1 pros: Direct flight. Arrives earliest, by far. Direct aisle access and bulkhead available.
Option 1 cons: B764 seat is quite lousy, especially for someone of my height. Not sure I'll be able to sleep at all.

Option 2 pros: B772 has a way better and roomier seat. Slightly later departure allows me to head to a restaurant for dinner in EZE.
Option 2 cons: Connecting flight - arrival in IAH is the same time as Option 1 arrives in EWR. Will have a seatmate, so with I'll climb or will be climbed over. Need to do the customs and rechecking dance in IAH. 3 hours in an A320 is just not that enticing. Arrives LGA, which is less convenient for me than EWR. I arrive home around 2:30 before Shabbos, which is risky (especially in the winter).

Option 3 pros: Arrive earlier, around 3:30 to Shabbos. B777 > A320.
Option 3 cons: IAH connection is quite tight for customs and rechecking. Still not a ton of time before Shabbos.

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I think it boils down to this: is a way better bed worth the hassle and late Friday arrival? I must say I'm leaning towards Option 1.
Option 1 is a no brainer, the other options are narishkeit.

& why take chances with a friday
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 09, 2018, 11:52:55 AM
Why don't you book with SQ for 50k
It was IN class.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 09, 2018, 11:59:17 AM
Option 1 is a no brainer, the other options are narishkeit.

& why take chances with a friday
Only a no-brainer for your average Chaim.
There's no way SF fits into the 764 bed.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: efflpetzel on October 09, 2018, 12:19:52 PM
Only a no-brainer for your average Chaim.
There's no way SF fits into the 764 bed.
I stick with my opinion
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 09, 2018, 12:21:42 PM
I stick with my opinion
Saying that redeeming for a J bed that won't fit him is a no-brainer because it's nonstop is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Joe4007 on October 09, 2018, 12:58:01 PM
Saying that redeeming for a J bed that won't fit him is a no-brainer because it's nonstop is ridiculous.
I've seen him fit into tighter spaces. Actually, not sure fit is the right word...

Either way, I say option 1 as well considering that it's a (i) busy Friday (ii) during the winter (iii) in NYC and if anything goes (stays?) south he'd be away from his family for the 3'rd Shabbos.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 09, 2018, 01:00:16 PM
I've seen him fit into tighter spaces. Actually, not sure fit is the right word...

Either way, I say option 1 as well considering that it's a (i) busy Friday (ii) during the winter (iii) in NYC and if anything goes (stays?) south he'd be away from his family for the 3'rd Shabbos.
What does (i) mean?

FWIW, a flight from EZE-EWR has a much higher probability of cancellation in December than EZE-IAH in case of NYC weather.
From IAH he could fly to alternate airports (PHL, etc) to get home in case of NYC airport issues.

Either way, I'm not saying option 1 isn't arguably better, but it's definitely not a no-brainer for someone that tall.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on October 09, 2018, 01:02:56 PM
What does (i) mean?

FWIW, a flight from EZE-EWR has a much higher probability of cancellation in December than EZE-IAH in case of NYC weather.
From IAH he could fly to alternate airports (PHL, etc) to get home in case of NYC airport issues.

Or not continue on friday, worst case scenario. But he cant get off mid-flight
ETA:does not make that much sense since EZE-IAH isnt much shorter.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Joe4007 on October 09, 2018, 01:03:58 PM
What does (i) mean?

FWIW, a flight from EZE-EWR has a much higher probability of cancellation in December than EZE-IAH in case of NYC weather.
From IAH he could fly to alternate airports (PHL, etc) to get home in case of NYC airport issues.
Right before the holidays.

He can always fall back on EZE-IAH/PTY etc.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 09, 2018, 01:04:20 PM

Or not continue on friday, worst case scenario. But he cant get off mid-flight
There's more than enough leeway on option 3 to not have Shabbos issues.
With either option, weather in NYC will disrupt getting home for Shabbos.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 09, 2018, 01:04:54 PM
Right before the holidays.

He can always fall back on EZE-IAH/PTY etc.
Assuming there's space after a cancellation...
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Joe4007 on October 09, 2018, 01:06:18 PM
There's more than enough leeway on option 3 to not have Shabbos issues.
With either option, weather in NYC will disrupt getting home for Shabbos.
Not if the weather kicks in later in the day.

Assuming there's space after a cancellation...
He has Dan with him. Duh.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on October 09, 2018, 01:06:40 PM
Right before the holidays.

He can always fall back on EZE-IAH/PTY etc.
Where did PTY come in?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 09, 2018, 01:07:36 PM
He has Dan with him. Duh.
Fly to and from EWR on a Friday? Do I look stupid?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Joe4007 on October 09, 2018, 01:07:52 PM
Where did PTY come in?
Just another *A option.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on October 09, 2018, 01:08:20 PM
I've seen him fit into tighter spaces. Actually, not sure fit is the right word...

Case in point:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8254/28391868424_dfd891d14d_b.jpg)
(see: https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=65070.msg1592118#msg1592118 for description)

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Either way, I say option 1 as well considering that it's a (i) busy Friday (ii) during the winter (iii) in NYC and if anything goes (stays?) south he'd be away from his family for the 3'rd Shabbos.

It's a tough call. If it were possible, I'd book both, and see how weather is that day. If all seems OK I'd probably go with option 3. Getting home grumpy from a long uncomfortable flight might not be the best kind of Shabbos for the family.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on October 09, 2018, 01:09:49 PM
Just another *A option.
That's a fallback option? Get on a flight there and stay shabbos?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Joe4007 on October 09, 2018, 01:10:32 PM
Fly to and from EWR on a Friday? Do I look stupid?
Who said anything about flying?

You'll be with him in EZE.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 09, 2018, 01:12:09 PM
Who said anything about flying?

You'll be with him in EZE.
I'll be enjoying dinner somewhere in Buenos Aires  ;D
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Joe4007 on October 09, 2018, 01:14:20 PM
That's a fallback option? Get on a flight there and stay shabbos?
Not sure what you're asking, but yeah you can fly EZE-PTY-NYC and get to NYC before Shabbos.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 09, 2018, 01:24:07 PM
Not sure what you're asking, but yeah you can fly EZE-PTY-NYC and get to NYC before Shabbos.

Earliest we can leave EZE is 9pm. Only EZE-USA flights will arrive on time.

EWR, JFK, IAH, MIA, ATL, etc.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mochjas on October 09, 2018, 01:26:16 PM
He has Dan with him. Duh.
stay away from AA then
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on October 09, 2018, 01:27:24 PM
Earliest we can leave EZE is 9pm. Only EZE-USA flights will arrive on time.

EWR, JFK, IAH, MIA, ATL, etc.
Why not MIA? Great fallback option...
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 09, 2018, 01:28:18 PM
Why not MIA? Great fallback option...

No availability
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Joe4007 on October 09, 2018, 01:28:25 PM
Earliest we can leave EZE is 9pm. Only EZE-USA flights will arrive on time.

EWR, JFK, IAH, MIA, ATL, etc.
Depends how you define "on time".

There's a Copa flight arriving NYC before 1pm.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on October 09, 2018, 01:30:39 PM
No availability
LATAM too? That's the story with all other options aside from IAH?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 09, 2018, 02:26:21 PM
LATAM too? That's the story with all other options aside from IAH?

No availability anywhere, but worst case UA's standard awards are somewhat tolerable. AA's, not so much.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 09, 2018, 02:27:18 PM
Depends how you define "on time".

There's a Copa flight arriving NYC before 1pm.

I don't see any such flight departing after 9pm.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Joe4007 on October 09, 2018, 02:29:55 PM
I don't see any such flight departing after 9pm.
(https://i.imgur.com/UIV2qax.jpg)

Pro: You can do 2X dinner in EZE  :P
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 09, 2018, 02:32:32 PM

Pro: You can do 2X dinner in EZE  :P

That's why - I wasn't searching for Friday.

Of course the con here is that it's Copa :P
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on October 09, 2018, 02:38:50 PM
That's why - I wasn't searching for Friday.

Of course the con here is that it's Copa :P

So if a 767 won't work, a 737 is the solution!

All we need to round out the experience is a ride in compact Hyundai to/from the airports.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 09, 2018, 02:39:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UIV2qax.jpg)

Pro: You can do 2X dinner in EZE  :P
Con: You're in a 737 for 13 hours.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Joe4007 on October 09, 2018, 02:39:53 PM
That's why - I wasn't searching for Friday.

Of course the con here is that it's Copa :P
Yep. Although both of those legs might get the 737 MAX 9 with the lie flat biz seats. No idea on the roll-out timeline though.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on October 09, 2018, 02:41:57 PM
No availability anywhere, but worst case UA's standard awards are somewhat tolerable. AA's, not so much.
Since when is no availability mean you cant make availability ;p
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Yaalili on October 19, 2018, 05:45:05 PM
Hence option 3 being a no brainer for fishy.

Seems he doesn't mind the 764 - https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=44320.msg2000691#msg2000691
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 19, 2018, 05:48:41 PM
Seems he doesn't mind the 764 - https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=44320.msg2000691#msg2000691

You wish :P

Sometimes you just take what you can get.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: shapsam on November 27, 2018, 12:31:46 PM
KRK-FRA-EWR LH 747 F, 5 hours connection - perfect for FCT, the only way to book more than 2 weeks out is with 85K LH + $270
Or
KRK-OSL-JFK Norwegian 787 Premium for $500.

I never flew F (although I do have BA F booked).
If I take the Norwegian I save myself the 85K LH for $230 more and still fly pretty comfortably for a day flight, and although I don't know when, hopefully I'll be able to fly LH F in the future, or do I take the LH because I now have the opportunity and וואס איז זיכער איז זיכער?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: yelped on November 27, 2018, 12:35:58 PM
I've seen F with Life miles more than 2 weeks out. Never tried booking though, so no comments if it's phantom or not.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: shapsam on November 27, 2018, 10:06:12 PM
I've seen F with Life miles more than 2 weeks out. Never tried booking though, so no comments if it's phantom or not.
Not showing for me.

Anyone have any thoughts/opinion?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Yaalili on November 27, 2018, 11:55:16 PM
I've seen F with Life miles more than 2 weeks out. Never tried booking though, so no comments if it's phantom or not.

That was a glitch / deal a few months ago. Its not the standard for it to show to any partners, 15+ days out.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Yaalili on November 27, 2018, 11:57:18 PM
KRK-FRA-EWR LH 747 F, 5 hours connection - perfect for FCT, the only way to book more than 2 weeks out is with 85K LH + $270
Or
KRK-OSL-JFK Norwegian 787 Premium for $500.

I never flew F (although I do have BA F booked).
If I take the Norwegian I save myself the 85K LH for $230 more and still fly pretty comfortably for a day flight, and although I don't know when, hopefully I'll be able to fly LH F in the future, or do I take the LH because I now have the opportunity and וואס איז זיכער איז זיכער?


I would go with what may be the unpopular opinion here - option 2.

Its a very good price for a premium product and the assurance that you have a ticket, instead of having to check within 15 days for *A partners.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on December 13, 2018, 01:22:34 PM
Need to go to TLV sometime in the end of January and planning on booking using LM (I have my return booked on IB via the Avios deal, but didn't really want such a long layover in MAD on both ways).

Since I can't count on UA opening up space for the dates I need, I'm debating between taking LX and TK.

LX has a more convenient departure time out of NY (and right now availability on a preferred date, while TK is only available one day earlier with an early afternoon departure), but I really want to see/experience the new Istanbul airport (and lounge).
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 13, 2018, 01:27:15 PM
Need to go to TLV sometime in the end of January and planning on booking using LM (I have my return booked on IB via the Avios deal, but didn't really want such a long layover in MAD on both ways).

Since I can't count on UA opening up space for the dates I need, I'm debating between taking LX and TK.

LX has a more convenient departure time out of NY (and right now availability on a preferred date, while TK is only available one day earlier with an early afternoon departure), but I really want to see/experience the new Istanbul airport (and lounge).
LX J all the way...?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: nafnaf12 on December 13, 2018, 01:32:31 PM
Need to go to TLV sometime in the end of January and planning on booking using LM (I have my return booked on IB via the Avios deal, but didn't really want such a long layover in MAD on both ways).

Since I can't count on UA opening up space for the dates I need, I'm debating between taking LX and TK.

LX has a more convenient departure time out of NY (and right now availability on a preferred date, while TK is only available one day earlier with an early afternoon departure), but I really want to see/experience the new Istanbul airport (and lounge).
what are your dates? I'm looking at the end of January as well and UA direct is a fortune right now.
Was debating the same.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on December 13, 2018, 01:34:50 PM
LX J all the way...?
Is there any other way?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 13, 2018, 01:35:55 PM
Is there any other way?
Certainly, taking the morning flight from ZRH in the winter.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on December 13, 2018, 01:38:40 PM
Certainly, taking the morning flight from ZRH in the winter.
Not sure what you mean. I'm looking to spend any time in ZRH, this is strictly NYC-TLV, though if things align themselves a certain way, I might not mind spending a day in IST (almost did that on a recent trip, but decided against because we had an infant with us and DW wasn't sure about the weather etc., I actually regret not doing it), but that's not my initial plan. IST is actually one place that is on my bucket list, but I'm not really that focused on bucket lists in my life.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 13, 2018, 01:40:32 PM
Not sure what you mean. I'm looking to spend any time in ZRH, this is strictly NYC-TLV, though if things align themselves a certain way, I might not mind spending a day in IST (almost did that on a recent trip, but decided against because we had an infant with us and DW wasn't sure about the weather etc., I actually regret not doing it), but that's not my initial plan.
I meant to ask if the LX flight was real J all the way to TLV.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on December 13, 2018, 02:38:14 PM
I meant to ask if the LX flight was real J all the way to TLV.
That's what I thought you asked. So I wasn't sure what you were talking about with morning ZRH flight.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: lubaby on December 13, 2018, 02:44:01 PM
That's what I thought you asked. So I wasn't sure what you were talking about with morning ZRH flight.
The morning flight from ZRH-TLV might(/will) not be real J in the winter. So take that into consideration when choosing flights.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 13, 2018, 02:44:06 PM
That's what I thought you asked. So I wasn't sure what you were talking about with morning ZRH flight.
The morning flight from ZRH-TLV is often replaced with a narrow-body (A319/20) with fake J during the winter.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: aygart on December 14, 2018, 09:40:47 AM
I'm debating taking LX

:o You!?!??!?!?!??
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: nafnaf12 on December 14, 2018, 09:56:31 AM
Being that I am booking a rev ticket.
I will most likely go with LX.
Since the Long hauls are on UA metal which I can upgrade.
TK is a bit cheaper ~$300 but leaves from JFK and longer stop evers
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on December 14, 2018, 12:12:39 PM
:o You!?!??!?!?!??

One not-so-good experience doesn't mean all experiences were bad. I've learned how to control the firmness of the seat, and which seats to avoid (easier when flying solo).
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: yelped on December 14, 2018, 02:09:06 PM
One not-so-good experience doesn't mean all experiences were bad. I've learned how to control the firmness of the seat, and which seats to avoid (easier when flying solo).
Which seats should I avoid in solo? I booked a family member in LX long haul.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on December 15, 2018, 05:52:19 PM
Which seats should I avoid in solo? I booked a family member in LX long haul.
Solo is easy. Throne seats are best, but any seat that has a wide separator from the aisle is acceptable.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: yelped on December 15, 2018, 07:04:35 PM
Problem is the charge for the throne seats, and any window seat that is closer to the window is reserved for Honor and Senator members...
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: sillypainter on December 15, 2018, 07:09:37 PM
Problem is the charge for the throne seats, and any window seat that is closer to the window is reserved for Honor and Senator members...

IME they don't charge when done by phone.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: yelped on December 15, 2018, 07:41:12 PM
You got lucky. :) I tried twice. First one just repeated whatever said online. The second said it shows as unavailable. If you have any tips on what to say, I would be glad to try again. The main thing the family member is trying to achieve is to sleep, so having a private seat near the window and away from the aisle is a big plus.

ETA: tried again. This rep said she will put in a request and I should check again within 24 hours.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on December 15, 2018, 08:34:52 PM
Problem is the charge for the throne seats, and any window seat that is closer to the window is reserved for Honor and Senator members...

I think it opens up 24 or 48 hours prior to the flight.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 15, 2018, 08:35:57 PM
Has anyone had success getting LH to open bulkhead before 24 hours out?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on May 16, 2019, 02:06:37 AM
Which flight should I take?

OW from TLV to CDG in real J the two options I have is LX in J (first leg only) on a 777 or TK in J (both segments) on a A330

They're both same mileage rate only difference is the YQ is a little cheaper on TK metal. (any reason why one would be better than the other?)

This is my first time flying in J if that makes a difference...
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: efflpetzel on May 16, 2019, 02:34:47 AM


Which flight should I take?

OW from TLV to CDG in real J the two options I have is LX in J (first leg only) on a 777 or TK in J (both segments) on a A330

They're both same mileage rate only difference is the YQ is a little cheaper on TK metal. (any reason why one would be better than the other?)

This is my first time flying in J if that makes a difference...

Tk 100%, longer lie flat + their amazing new lounge
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Ploni3 on May 16, 2019, 11:50:22 AM
Need to fly nyc-tlv J. Better in Delta 330 or LY 787? Thnx
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on May 16, 2019, 11:56:17 AM
Need to fly nyc-tlv J. Better in Delta 330 or LY 787? Thnx
LY
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mochjas on May 16, 2019, 01:09:00 PM
Need to fly nyc-tlv J. Better in Delta 330 or LY 787? Thnx
wrong thread
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on May 20, 2019, 09:03:21 AM
Need to go from TLV-LON.
The ideal flight (BA on an A321) is completely sold out in J, so there is little to no chance of it opening for an award.
Right now I have RJ flight with a 2.45 connection in AMM, 787 for AMM-LHR.
Another option would be to make my entire itinerary F award (AA) and book a not so ideal timed F flight direct which would cost another 45k AA, which doesn't sound right to me.
The real question is if I should hope for that flight to open in J and switch to the that on a 777 with BA direct, as apposed to a RJ with a layover.

BA Pros:
Direct flight.
Get to try a new (horrible) product.
More ideal departure time.
(Use the BA arrival lounge in LHR)

RJ Pros:
4 more hours in London, 4PM-9AM.
Better product for most the trip.

How bad is J on the BA 777, is it worth considering it? Or be happy with RJ?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 20, 2019, 07:48:59 PM
BA will not open, forget about it.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on May 21, 2019, 07:25:27 AM
BA will not open, forget about it.
Granted one flight looks like this: F3 A2 J9 C6 D4 R3 I2

But the next one, which F is available on looks like this:
F6 A5 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9

Flight is 5 weeks out.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Menachem613 on May 27, 2019, 08:32:52 AM
Flying economy, direct from AMS to NYC I have two options

KLM - Boeing 787-900, 48,500 miles + $120
United - Boeing 767-400ER, 55k miles + $45 (+ free bag due to United Chase CC).

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2019, 02:41:34 PM
Option 1:
Pro: Nonstop
Con: AA RJ-145, no wifi, all coach, no exit row open, MIA RJ gate

(https://i.gyazo.com/e5373a831bd86c3f1703c4dacc66b5a3.png)

Option 2:
Pro: Probably get upgraded on both segments, exit row confirmable, WiFi, FLL, mainline flight
Con: Connecting flight

(https://i.gyazo.com/16533d35d2c8e870af40159400c6d6cd.png)
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mmgfarb on July 02, 2019, 02:48:21 PM
Option 1:
Pro: Nonstop
Con: AA RJ-145, no wifi, all coach, no exit row open, MIA RJ gate


Option 2:
Pro: Probably get upgraded on both segments, WiFi, FLL, mainline flight
Con: Connecting flight

How much more convenient is FLL going to be for you over MIA? If they're equal in distance, etc. and it's just easier to fly out of FLL, then I would take the inconvenience of flying out of MIA over having to connect but if FLL is going to be much more convenient to get to from where you are then I would do that even with the connection. Chances are you'll get in at the same time since AA will probably get delayed anyway...
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2019, 02:54:11 PM
How much more convenient is FLL going to be for you over MIA? If they're equal in distance, etc. and it's just easier to fly out of FLL, then I would take the inconvenience of flying out of MIA over having to connect but if FLL is going to be much more convenient to get to from where you are then I would do that even with the connection. Chances are you'll get in at the same time since AA will probably get delayed anyway...
FLL-20 mins
MIA-30 mins

My AA track record certainly has me worried.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 02, 2019, 02:54:55 PM
I enjoy IAD, so if you're like me that can play a role.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2019, 02:57:08 PM
I enjoy IAD, so if you're like me that can play a role.
Enjoy it for 55 minute connection? Why?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 02, 2019, 02:58:29 PM
Enjoy it for 55 minute connection? Why?
I like airports.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: lubaby on July 02, 2019, 03:29:31 PM
Enjoy it for 55 minute connection? Why?
To add stress to your day in case of any delays.

Aside from your track record with AA, I'd take the nonstop and get home 2 hours earlier. You have better couch / internet / drinks at home to make up for the lack thereof on the plane.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mochjas on July 02, 2019, 03:30:44 PM
Option 1:
Pro: Nonstop
Con: AA RJ-145, no wifi, all coach, no exit row open, MIA RJ gate

(https://i.gyazo.com/e5373a831bd86c3f1703c4dacc66b5a3.png)

Option 2:
Pro: Probably get upgraded on both segments, exit row confirmable, WiFi, FLL, mainline flight
Con: Connecting flight

(https://i.gyazo.com/16533d35d2c8e870af40159400c6d6cd.png)
If no kids and Im not in a rush to get home, I would take the stop if 99% Biz Class
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2019, 03:31:17 PM
To add stress to your day in case of any delays.

Aside from your track record with AA, I'd take the nonstop and get home 2 hours earlier. You have better couch / internet / drinks at home to make up for the lack thereof on the plane.
86 minutes. But I hear ya.

Why do I feel like AA is totally going to mess me over though...
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 02, 2019, 03:32:42 PM


Why do I feel like AA is totally going to mess me over though...
... track record...
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2019, 03:32:47 PM
If no kids and Im not in a rush to get home, I would take the stop if 99% Biz Class
Well, that's the other factor. I have tickets to the 8pm home run derby.
Will AA get me in sooner than UA? Who knows.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: lubaby on July 02, 2019, 03:34:16 PM
86 minutes. But I hear ya.

Why do I feel like AA is totally going to mess me over though...
Flight showing sold out, so chance someone there will put you on top of the bump list?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mochjas on July 02, 2019, 03:37:27 PM
Well, that's the other factor. I have tickets to the 8pm home run derby.
Will AA get me in sooner than UA? Who knows.
Yes then you definitely should go with AA. Wont you know day of if you will be taking off on time, more or less?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2019, 03:49:38 PM
Flight showing sold out, so chance someone there will put you on top of the bump list?  ::) ::)
LOL. I'll pull a Dr. Dao and retire.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2019, 03:50:35 PM
Yes then you definitely should go with AA. Wont you know day of if you will be taking off on time, more or less?
Most of my AA delays seem to happen at the gate or on the plane. It's an impressive string of bAAd luck.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on July 02, 2019, 03:55:21 PM
FLL-20 mins
MIA-30 mins

My AA track record certainly has me worried.

Are those times to reach the gate, or the airport?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2019, 03:57:12 PM
Are those times to reach the gate, or the airport?
Airport only. MIA RJ satellite gate will definitely add another 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on July 02, 2019, 04:00:24 PM
Airport only. MIA RJ satellite gate will definitely add another 15 minutes.
I'm surprised at you for not taking that into the initial comparison. It's not like you to do a novice style comparison of time from one address to another. Also remember that FLL is mostly highway on the way there (and there's an alternative route).

Returning a rental car?

Which terminal does UA fly out of at FLL?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2019, 04:04:47 PM
I'm surprised at you for not taking that into the initial comparison. It's not like you to do a novice style comparison of time from one address to another. Also remember that FLL is mostly highway on the way there (and there's an alternative route).

Returning a rental car?

Which terminal does UA fly out of at FLL?
The time beforehand is not critical. I have an 8am bris and that's about it.

Probably will Uber.

T1.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on July 02, 2019, 04:12:10 PM
The time beforehand is not critical. I have an 8am bris and that's about it.

Probably will Uber.

T1.

In that case, as much as I hate MIA airport and despise AA, I would probably be inclined to take AA, though I'd probably check status and options on the day of flight. The bottom line is that there's no way of knowing what will end up being a better option, and the AA is a short flight.

I will qualify this by saying that I once connected at DCA, and it was a breeze. I can't recall if I ever connected at IAD, if that connection is supposed to be easy based on gate assignments (though they could definitely change) and conditions at IAD, I might opt for that.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: shaulyaakov on July 02, 2019, 04:32:36 PM
I'd be wary of a connection if you have to be at the Home Run Derby by 8pm. Nothing like a misconnect to mess you up. If you are delayed with AA by 1 hour, you just equal the UA time. If your UA flight is delayed an hour, you are stuck in DC.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: AJK on July 02, 2019, 04:49:23 PM
You'd have to be insane to that UA flight. You'd be turning a (i) 3-hour (ii) non-stop (iii) domestic flight in coach (oh the horrors) into a five-hour ordeal (bad), including a connection (worse), which doubles your chances at having an issue, including a misconnect which may ruin the whole night (no thanks). 

You'll survive without wifi and a slightly larger seat.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on July 02, 2019, 04:49:48 PM
I'd be wary of a connection if you have to be at the Home Run Derby by 8pm. Nothing like a misconnect to mess you up. If you are delayed with AA by 1 hour, you just equal the UA time. If your UA flight is delayed an hour, you are stuck in DC.

That might belong in the pros and cons of where one lives.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mmgfarb on July 02, 2019, 04:57:43 PM
FLL-20 mins
MIA-30 mins

My AA track record certainly has me worried.
I'd go with MIA
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2019, 05:01:48 PM
MIA it is, but I'm holding all of you personally accountable when things go south  :P
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2019, 05:02:26 PM
That might belong in the pros and cons of where one lives.
UA flies nonstop CLE-FLL in the winter. Who goes to SoFlo in the summer unless it's for a simcha?
I'd take B6, but they only have an evening flight.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on July 02, 2019, 05:02:36 PM
MIA it is, but I'm holding all of you personally accountable when things go south  :P

How much further south do you think things can go? Key West?

I've adequately disclaimed myself out of liability.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on July 02, 2019, 05:06:13 PM
UA flies nonstop CLE-FLL in the winter. Who goes to SoFlo in the summer unless it's for a simcha?
I'd take B6, but they only have an evening flight.
Exatamente!

הוא הדבר אשר דברתי.

Flying into NYC there are so many options. B6 and DL and even Spirit which can work out decently on the spot, have plenty of nonstops between FLL and JFK, LGA and EWR.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2019, 01:57:49 PM
My AA losing streak continues.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Jeremiah on July 08, 2019, 02:17:15 PM
My AA losing streak continues.
Looks like incoming flight diverted to PBI
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2019, 02:22:45 PM
Looks like incoming flight diverted to PBI
And AA says the delay will be just an hour.
Bunch of liars.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Something Fishy on July 08, 2019, 02:23:52 PM
My AA losing streak continues.

Gosh.

I seriously can't believe you ever made it to EZE.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mochjas on July 08, 2019, 02:34:16 PM
And AA says the delay will be just an hour.
Bunch of liars.
OMG! I feel So bad!
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 08, 2019, 02:37:08 PM
My AA losing streak continues.
Maybe that's really winning?
The more you know.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: yochai on July 08, 2019, 02:45:04 PM
And AA says the delay will be just an hour.
Bunch of liars.
The United flight was delayed too! You wouldve missed your connection.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Jeremiah on July 08, 2019, 03:13:46 PM
And AA says the delay will be just an hour.
Bunch of liars.
What's gonna be with the home run derby?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dawie on July 08, 2019, 03:23:15 PM
What's gonna be with the home run derby?
If Dan makes it Pete Alonoso wins, if he misses it Carlos Santana wins......
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: as2 on July 08, 2019, 03:23:51 PM
What's gonna be with the home run derby?
Whichever card he booked the trip on will be paying for his tickets.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mochjas on July 08, 2019, 03:30:51 PM
Whichever card he booked the trip on will be paying for his tickets.
As if Dan "paid" for his tickets......
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: yosefsv on July 08, 2019, 03:35:37 PM
Delayed further
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2019, 03:52:06 PM
Lots of angry derby fans, so...New plane to CLE secured and flight time moved up!
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2019, 04:20:04 PM
Part of the AA rebooking line in MIA posted to my IG stories.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2019, 04:32:00 PM
Taking off now, all's well that ends well!

Would have been interesting to see what UA GS with an event to catch+UA connection saver would have done in IAD. But the world will never know.

Until next time!
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on July 08, 2019, 04:48:14 PM
Would have been interesting to see what UA GS with an event to catch+UA connection saver would have done in IAD. But the world will never know.

I would guess that if you already boarded the flight to IAD they might have routed you via CVG, otherwise they (or you) might have found an alternate route out of FLL.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mmgfarb on July 08, 2019, 05:07:16 PM
My AA losing streak continues.
10 points to me...
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 08, 2019, 05:15:00 PM


Taking off now, all's well that ends well!

Would have been interesting to see what UA GS with an event to catch+UA connection saver would have done in IAD. But the world will never know.

Until next time!
You would've made it IMO.
But I could've sworn you said they don't hold planes :)
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: shaulyaakov on July 08, 2019, 08:58:26 PM
Taking off now, all's well that ends well!

Would have been interesting to see what UA GS with an event to catch+UA connection saver would have done in IAD. But the world will never know.

Until next time!
What's connection saver?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: shaulyaakov on July 08, 2019, 08:59:39 PM
Whichever card he booked the trip on will be paying for his tickets.
Don't think they cover that.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: yelped on July 08, 2019, 09:15:35 PM
What's connection saver?
New tool by United that helps people with delayed connections make their next flight. Available in certain airports for now.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: shaulyaakov on July 08, 2019, 09:28:51 PM
Well no CLE players in the semis so maybe not worth the trip...
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: shaulyaakov on July 08, 2019, 10:30:54 PM
Well no CLE players in the semis so maybe not worth the trip...
Ok vladdy gives you something to look forward to. Alonzo is toast.

Eta - Alonzo had a softer bracket. Wow. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Jeremiah on July 08, 2019, 11:19:31 PM
If Dan makes it Pete Alonoso wins, if he misses it Carlos Santana wins......
Good call!
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2019, 12:09:44 AM
Well no CLE players in the semis so maybe not worth the trip...
Vlad/pederson was worth the price of admission!

Also, if I didn't go, I'd have booked this (now brutal red-eye) flight home:
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: shaulyaakov on July 09, 2019, 07:25:23 AM
Vlad/pederson was worth the price of admission!

Also, if I didn't go, I'd have booked this (now brutal red-eye) flight home:
Why did every SoFl flight to CLE get delayed?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2019, 08:26:26 AM
The entire board was red. Airports were briefly closed due to bad weather in SoFlo.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: pointer on July 14, 2019, 05:24:27 PM
AF LYS-CDG-JFK business (787-9).

Or

EK MXP-JFK business.

EK comes out approx. $200 cheaper,

Which one is the better product? what do you guys think I should do?

Tnx!
 
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mmgfarb on July 14, 2019, 05:36:52 PM
AF LYS-CDG-JFK business (787-9).

Or

EK MXP-JFK business.

EK comes out approx. $200 cheaper,

Which one is the better product? what do you guys think I should do?

Tnx!
Tough call, I think AF is the better product but you're adding an unnecessary connection.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: pointer on July 14, 2019, 05:40:12 PM
Tough call, I think AF is the better product but you're adding an unnecessary connection.
Also leaning towards AF.

Much smaller business cabin.

Reverse herringbone seating.

Awesome lounge at CDG.

Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: pointer on July 14, 2019, 05:41:43 PM
Tough call, I think AF is the better product but you're adding an unnecessary connection.
MXP is an additional 2 hour drive...
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 14, 2019, 05:41:54 PM
Tough call, I think AF is the better product but you're adding an unnecessary connection.
Why do you think so? Its the 380 for EK.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: pointer on July 14, 2019, 05:46:01 PM
Also leaning towards AF.

Much smaller business cabin.

Reverse herringbone seating.

Awesome lounge at CDG.
Hey!

The bar slipped my mind....really not sure now.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mmgfarb on July 14, 2019, 06:34:25 PM
Why do you think so? Its the 380 for EK.
Eh, I've always been of the impression that EK J isn't that special of a product, even in 1-2-1.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mmgfarb on July 14, 2019, 06:34:46 PM
MXP is an additional 2 hour drive...
Then I would do AF for sure.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 15, 2019, 04:24:14 PM
Should I be concerned to but a flight arriving in SIN 10am Friday morning?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 15, 2019, 04:36:35 PM
It's fine
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ckmk47 on July 17, 2019, 02:52:50 AM
NYC - LON   business
With whom should I book? What should I look for in the listing?
Iberia, AA, BA, Delta, united.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 17, 2019, 03:22:18 AM
NYC - LON   business
With whom should I book? What should I look for in the listing?
Iberia, AA, BA, Delta, united.
AA IMO.
IB wouldn't be direct.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Proisrael on July 17, 2019, 04:04:59 AM
AA IMO.
IB wouldn't be direct.
UA if you can get the Polaris..
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: lansky on July 17, 2019, 04:47:26 AM
aa j SFO-JFK or cathway j yvr-jfk?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mmgfarb on July 17, 2019, 06:07:42 AM
aa j SFO-JFK or cathway j yvr-jfk?
How are these comparable? What city are you going to be in?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ckmk47 on July 17, 2019, 10:34:30 AM

AA IMO.
IB wouldn't be direct.
UA if you can get the Polaris..
All those I listed are direct.  (Iberia, AA, BA, Delta, United.)
There is United Polaris in P class. Is that better than AA?  All are around the same price.
I expect to book it through Chase Sappphire Reserve.  Are they able to find any flight I know is available?  At first glance, they weren't all on the Chase Travel website.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mochjas on July 17, 2019, 10:39:26 AM
aa j SFO-JFK or cathway j yvr-jfk?
NYC - LON   business
With whom should I book? What should I look for in the listing?
Iberia, AA, BA, Delta, united.
Wrong thread post here: https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=43296.0
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ckmk47 on July 17, 2019, 10:45:18 AM
Wrong thread post here: https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=43296.0 (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=43296.0)
OK
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: efflpetzel on July 17, 2019, 01:52:19 PM
Hey!

The bar slipped my mind....really not sure now.
EK no question, great J product & the bar tips the scales for me
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: MeirS on July 17, 2019, 04:14:26 PM
All those I listed are direct.  (Iberia, AA, BA, Delta, United.)
There is United Polaris in P class. Is that better than AA?  All are around the same price.
I expect to book it through Chase Sappphire Reserve.  Are they able to find any flight I know is available?  At first glance, they weren't all on the Chase Travel website.
IB doesn't fly that route. Look for the operating carrier rather than the carpet selling the ticket. You'll notice BA and AA sell each other's tickets.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ckmk47 on July 17, 2019, 04:36:53 PM
IB doesn't fly that route. Look for the operating carrier rather than the carpet selling the ticket. You'll notice BA and AA sell each other's tickets.
I thought I saw an IB flight being sold by AA, but I certainly can be mistaken. Thanks.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: pointer on July 17, 2019, 05:51:15 PM
EK no question, great J product & the bar tips the scales for me
but lounge at CDG offers free spa treatment!

Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: lansky on July 18, 2019, 03:33:42 PM
How are these comparable? What city are you going to be in?
I'm gonna be in anc only two options I see with saver award
Lie flat business
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: theyankel on July 24, 2019, 05:01:30 PM
nyc-tlv

ewr - muc a350-900 LH 413 J or
jfk - muc a340-600 LH J 411

i assume the a321 from muc-tlv operating LH 680 is fake j, yes?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on July 25, 2019, 04:02:16 AM
i assume the a321 from muc-tlv operating LH 680 is fake j, yes?
correct
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: theyankel on July 25, 2019, 01:24:33 PM
nyc-tlv

ewr - muc a350-900 LH 413 J or
jfk - muc a340-600 LH J 411

i assume the a321 from muc-tlv operating LH 680 is fake j, yes?

still have the question which flight i should take departing nyc
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: hvaces42 on July 25, 2019, 01:31:11 PM
still have the question which flight i should take departing nyc
6 of this half a dozen of the other. The A359 is newer. The A346 is a much bigger plane but very old. I would go for the A359 all things considered.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: yochai on July 26, 2019, 03:07:58 PM
Orlando to London, BA or Virgin? Both same price/hours. In economy.
Virgin flies 747s and BA 777s.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: yandmk on August 18, 2019, 08:54:47 PM
TLV to NYC in the winter BA vs Virgin business class
BA flies the new J suite on the short haul and 777/747 for the transatlantic portion
VS flies their new J on the a350 transatlantic and a330 on the shorter flight
Price nearly the same
Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ludmila on August 18, 2019, 10:37:03 PM
TLV to NYC in the winter BA vs Virgin business class
BA flies the new J suite on the short haul and 777/747 for the transatlantic portion
VS flies their new J on the a350 transatlantic and a330 on the shorter flight
Price nearly the same
Any suggestions?
VS.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: yandmk on August 19, 2019, 05:57:59 PM
VS.
Any particular reason?
Hard product?
Soft product?
KSML?
Please explain your choice, if you don't mind. TIA.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: 159dallas on August 19, 2019, 08:10:56 PM
JFK-SFO

AA miles

12.5 Economy Direct on AA
Or
25k First Direct on AS

Us it worth it? I realize it's not lie flat
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: KSMH on August 19, 2019, 08:18:10 PM
JFK-SFO

AA miles

12.5 Economy Direct on AA
Or
25k First Direct on AS

Us it worth it? I realize it's not lie flat
If ur tight on time try avoiding AA these days.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: aryeh1 on August 20, 2019, 10:10:58 AM
Anyone know which airline is preferable to Israel between aeroflot and Turkish airlines?  they're both roughly same price..
Tia!
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: KSMH on August 20, 2019, 10:20:16 AM
Anyone know which airline is preferable to Israel between aeroflot and Turkish airlines?  they're both roughly same price..
Tia!
Turkish by far.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: aryeh1 on August 20, 2019, 10:45:06 AM
Turkish by far.
Thanks just wondering in what way? Better service?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: hvaces42 on August 20, 2019, 06:57:04 PM
Thanks just wondering in what way? Better service?
Youre directly supporting terrorism instead of supporting the Russians who support terrorism...DidIgetthatright? ;D
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: grodnoking on August 20, 2019, 07:05:55 PM
Thanks just wondering in what way? Better service?
Better service. Cleaner. Shorter flight time.

Only issue is if someone has a hard time walking, the gates are usually far apart on turkish.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on August 20, 2019, 07:16:48 PM
Better service. Cleaner. Shorter flight time.

Only issue is if someone has a hard time walking, the gates are usually far apart on turkish.

I would add "greater frequency" which can help in case of missed connection.

Are gates farther apart true for the new IST airport?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: grodnoking on August 20, 2019, 07:41:11 PM
I would add "greater frequency" which can help in case of missed connection.

Are gates farther apart true for the new IST airport?
Even more so from what I hear.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 04, 2019, 06:10:17 PM
5 pax, staying in BH.

CLE-MIA AA F, 15K Avios (Sitting on a bunch from AMEX 40% and Iberia, effectively 10.7K with 40% bonus. Only $5.60 to cancel.)
CLE-FLL UA Y+, 10.5K UA miles (Probably get 2/5 upgraded for free...which isn't very useful. Best service in case of irrops due to GS. Free cancellation.)
CLE-FLL B6 Y, 5.7K B6 points (Still sitting on a bunch of points from pointmatch)
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on October 05, 2019, 01:58:59 PM
5 pax, staying in BH.

CLE-MIA AA F, 15K Avios (Sitting on a bunch from AMEX 40% and Iberia, effectively 10.7K with 40% bonus. Only $5.60 to cancel.)
CLE-FLL UA Y+, 10.5K UA miles (Probably get 2/5 upgraded for free...which isn't very useful. Best service in case of irrops due to GS. Free cancellation.)
CLE-FLL B6 Y, 5.7K B6 points (Still sitting on a bunch of points from pointmatch)
If AA is 772/W, or 757 do AA, if not do B6, if for you do AA regardless, cuz you ain't running out anytime soon.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 05, 2019, 08:24:33 PM
If AA is 772/W, or 757 do AA, if not do B6, if for you do AA regardless, cuz you ain't running out anytime soon.
It's an RJ175, which is basically flagship F for AA in CLE  ;D
Actually a great plane for F with 5 pax due to 1-2 configuration. But renting a car in MIA is never fun.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mmgfarb on October 05, 2019, 08:51:38 PM
It's an RJ175, which is basically flagship F for AA in CLE  ;D
Actually a great plane for F with 5 pax due to 1-2 configuration. But renting a car in MIA is never fun.
I'd do B6, it's the cheapest and flying into FLL is just easier.
ETA: especially if you can get even more seats on B6, I don't see the need for F on a regular 1.5 hr flight.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mmgfarb on October 05, 2019, 08:53:36 PM


If AA is 772/W, or 757 do AA
This is CLE we're talking about....

Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: davidrotts63 on October 05, 2019, 08:54:01 PM


It's an RJ175, which is basically flagship F for AA in CLE  ;D
Actually a great plane for F with 5 pax due to 1-2 configuration. But renting a car in MIA is never fun.

I don't find that a pain TBH, but I forgot the time question with AA...
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 05, 2019, 08:54:58 PM
I'd do B6, it's the cheapest and flying into FLL is just easier.
ETA: especially if you can get even more seats on B6, I don't see the need for F on a regular 1.5 hr flight.
Won't have Mosaic next year, so no EMS. Plus most EMS doesn't work with carseats.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: yelped on October 05, 2019, 08:57:08 PM
Won't have Mosaic next year, so no EMS. Plus most EMS doesn't work with carseats.
No EMS is still plenty IMVHO.  ;D
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on October 05, 2019, 09:43:30 PM
MIA airport is never fun.
FTFY
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: 159dallas on October 05, 2019, 10:52:19 PM
I avoid MIA at all costs
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: lubaby on October 06, 2019, 08:52:47 PM
It's an RJ175, which is basically flagship F for AA in CLE  ;D
Actually a great plane for F with 5 pax due to 1-2 configuration. But renting a car in MIA is never fun.
AA is still an option for you? ::)
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: theyankel on October 06, 2019, 10:42:32 PM
I avoid MIA at all costs
+1
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: theyankel on October 06, 2019, 10:43:56 PM
5 pax, staying in BH.

CLE-MIA AA F, 15K Avios (Sitting on a bunch from AMEX 40% and Iberia, effectively 10.7K with 40% bonus. Only $5.60 to cancel.)
CLE-FLL UA Y+, 10.5K UA miles (Probably get 2/5 upgraded for free...which isn't very useful. Best service in case of irrops due to GS. Free cancellation.)
CLE-FLL B6 Y, 5.7K B6 points (Still sitting on a bunch of points from pointmatch)
if  for you, and you dont want to actually get there, then book the AA. otherwise, for such a short flight, and in flight entertainment and better service, not to mention cheaper, i'd go b6
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ad120 on October 07, 2019, 01:19:02 AM
 B6
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: shaulyaakov on October 07, 2019, 07:14:00 AM
Won't have Mosaic next year, so no EMS. Plus most EMS doesn't work with carseats.
Why doesn't EMS work with car seats?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: jj1000 on October 07, 2019, 07:31:10 AM
I don't see the need for F on a regular 1.5 hr flight.

You taking a Concord for CLE-MIA? It's a 3 hour flight...
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: sruly on October 07, 2019, 07:52:20 AM
Won't have Mosaic next year, so no EMS. Plus most EMS doesn't work with carseats.
You can't redeem for EMS with points at time of booking?
IME carseats work fine just not in Bulkheads.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: ExGingi on October 07, 2019, 09:53:59 AM
You taking a Concord for CLE-MIA? It's a 3 hour flight...
Can't fly those over populated areas.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: mochjas on October 07, 2019, 10:51:08 AM
Won't have Mosaic next year,
This is embarrassing
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 07, 2019, 10:55:36 AM
Why doesn't EMS work with car seats?
They're being retrofitted the airbag seatbelts. Had to move last time.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 07, 2019, 10:55:50 AM
You can't redeem for EMS with points at time of booking?
IME carseats work fine just not in Bulkheads.
EMS with points is Mosaic only.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 07, 2019, 10:57:39 AM
This is embarrassing
They fly to 2 cities from CLE and I fly them maybe once or twice per year. Better places for the MS than more B6 points when I'm already sitting on more points than I can use.
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: shaulyaakov on October 07, 2019, 10:58:54 AM
They're being retrofitted the airbag seatbelts. Had to move last time.
Ouch. What's the purpose of that? 5oo much space from seat in front to be safe otherwise?
Title: Re: Which Flight Should I Take?
Post by: Dan on October 07, 2019, 10:59:21 AM
Ouch. What's the purpose of that? 5oo much space from seat in front to be safe otherwise?
Apparently. New FAA guidance  ::)