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Title: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: rcarentals on August 29, 2018, 04:04:34 AM
The new travel collection membership fee is waived with an amex gold or plat, personal and biz.

There is very very little information out there about these programs, so having done hours of training I thought I would offer to answer questions here about the program.

1. There are some very good deals on air - both international and domestic on United. Business class to tel Aviv is an exceptional deal in every inventory.

2. The deals are on Air, cruise and land tours. Often times combinable with other deals, so just extra perks on for example cruises. Where you get shipboard credits, and then TTC extra credits.

3. Sign up is easy via the phone number, or via a registered Travel leaders group travel agency.

4. Bookings through TTC or a TTC agency are eligible for amex Pay with points (depending on your standing with amex obviously).
(I am not yet 100% sure about the 35% bonus back though. I have a ticket redemption processed so will know within a month if it posts the bonus. So far it is exactly identical to regular amex redemptions though.)

5. The TTC is brand new and will likely get much better over the next few months.

Feel free to PM me with questions.
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: Dan on August 29, 2018, 07:40:25 AM
Same price comps?
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: Aerial Dag on August 29, 2018, 09:21:30 AM
Signed up because why not. Annoying that you have to call a rep to get prices for flights. Hotels have limited selection. You're better off using FHR through Amex for more hotels and better benefits.

Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: yelped on August 29, 2018, 12:16:19 PM
Thanks! Can you give an example of some price differentials? For domestic flights in economy I.E. NYC-MIA, and international flights, I.E. NYC-TLV? And in Business?

Thanks!
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: rcarentals on August 29, 2018, 02:57:34 PM
Thanks! Can you give an example of some price differentials? For domestic flights in economy I.E. NYC-MIA, and international flights, I.E. NYC-TLV? And in Business?

Thanks!
Same price comps?

On United for example - there are some great fares from LAX to TLV Via SFO RT (December 4 to December 18).
Published price is $2781.72
TTC has that fare for a few cents under $2335 .... that may be incredible - but i can offer proof via PM... (or ticket it for you!  ;D)

Will do some domestic Flight comparison soon.
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: Dan on August 29, 2018, 03:01:20 PM
What about TLV-EWR 12/27-12/31 in UA J?
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: yelped on August 29, 2018, 03:09:30 PM
On United for example - there are some great fares from LAX to TLV Via SFO RT (December 4 to December 18).
Published price is $2781.72
TTC has that fare for a few cents under $2335 .... that may be incredible - but i can offer proof via PM... (or ticket it for you!  ;D)

Will do some domestic Flight comparison soon.
Thanks! I'm not sure I understand the bolded part. A travel agent can book these fares?? And still be considered eligible for Amex Biz Plat 35% back?
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 29, 2018, 03:13:39 PM
Signed up because why not. Annoying that you have to call a rep to get prices for flights. Hotels have limited selection. You're better off using FHR through Amex for more hotels and better benefits.

  • Best rate available guarantee
  • Daily breakfast for two people
  • Room upgrade upon check-in (based on availability)
  • Guaranteed early check-in (1pm)
  • Complimentary in-room Wi-Fi
  • Receive a property amenity credit valued at $50 (per stay) on qualifying purchases
FHR doesn’t have BRG
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: rcarentals on August 29, 2018, 05:49:04 PM
Thanks! I'm not sure I understand the bolded part. A travel agent can book these fares?? And still be considered eligible for Amex Biz Plat 35% back?
Only Certain Travel Agents can book these tickets. Re the 35% - I was told conflicting answers on this - so I am doing a test myself and for a client - Issued a ticket valid for 35% and redeemed with biz plat. Both me and client waiting to see if Bonus will post.
So far the redemption for the PWP (paywithpoints) shows Identical. And the charge shows directly from the airline - so I am actually hopeful.
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: rcarentals on August 29, 2018, 05:50:38 PM
What about TLV-EWR 12/27-12/31 in UA J?
Nope - the United deals are strictly Ex-USA and Intra-USA.
For the intra USA it's business and medium through high Classes.  With discount depending on City, and class.

For example though - the 3999.12 United P class fare's EWR-TLV e.g. Dec 31-jan 09 are a few cents under 3385
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on August 29, 2018, 06:44:18 PM
Thank you @rcarentals!
Just checked EWR-TLV Sep 13 to Oct 8.  Publish price was $6052, and they came back with a price of $5029

Lets see how long this new shtick will be available on the market  ;)
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: yelped on August 29, 2018, 06:48:18 PM
How can you check it? How do you pull it up in GDS (I'm not a travel agent, just curious)?
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on August 29, 2018, 06:50:39 PM
How can you check it? How do you pull it up in GDS (I'm not a travel agent, just curious)?
Im not a travel agent anymore either thanks god! Checked availability on GDS and called them in for a quote
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on August 29, 2018, 06:52:40 PM
FYI..
They allowed me to place the Itinerary on hold at no extra cost
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: shapsam on August 29, 2018, 06:53:40 PM
FYI..
They allowed me to place the Itinerary on hold at no extra cost
Same here.
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on August 29, 2018, 06:57:41 PM
Same here.
Just checked on UA and it shows ticket processing   :-\
Wonder what this means... Will find out shortly



Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: lybbtthl on August 29, 2018, 07:47:45 PM
Signed up because why not. Annoying that you have to call a rep to get prices for flights. Hotels have limited selection. You're better off using FHR through Amex for more hotels and better benefits.

  • Best rate available guarantee
  • Daily breakfast for two people
  • Room upgrade upon check-in (based on availability)
  • Guaranteed early check-in (1pm)
  • Complimentary in-room Wi-Fi
  • Receive a property amenity credit valued at $50 (per stay) on qualifying purchases

There's no overlap at all between FHR and TTC, these are new hotels, never before bookable with benefits
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: Aerial Dag on August 30, 2018, 09:47:56 AM
There's no overlap at all between FHR and TTC, these are new hotels, never before bookable with benefits
Yup you're right. Seems to be new hotels
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: WhyAich on August 30, 2018, 11:54:34 AM
Just checked on UA and it shows ticket processing   :-\
Wonder what this means... Will find out shortly

Did you pay for the ticket or you just put a hold on it?

Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on August 30, 2018, 12:29:33 PM
Did you pay for the ticket or you just put a hold on it?
Was just a HOLD, thats why it was surprising to see on united.com 'your ticket is processing'
But I canceled it at the end, and booking now something else.
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: shapsam on August 30, 2018, 12:35:16 PM
Was just a HOLD, thats why it was surprising to see on united.com 'your ticket is processing'
But I canceled it at the end, and booking now something else.
Whenever you have a reservation that's not ticketed it comes up as processing.
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on August 30, 2018, 12:40:36 PM
Whenever you have a reservation that's not ticketed it comes up as processing.
You are correct, this is new
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: shapsam on August 30, 2018, 12:47:05 PM
You are correct, this is new
What's new?
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on August 30, 2018, 12:48:38 PM
What's new?

This is new:
Whenever you have a reservation that's not ticketed it comes up as processing.
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: lubaby on September 20, 2018, 11:17:56 PM
FYI..
They allowed me to place the Itinerary on hold at no extra cost
Just like any normal travel agency..
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: KSMH on September 20, 2018, 11:20:17 PM
I believe some airlines are not ticketed immediately  and can take 24 hours, sometimes they will cancel out on you.
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on September 20, 2018, 11:29:20 PM
I believe some airlines are not ticketed immediately  and can take 24 hours, sometimes they will cancel out on you.
I ended up having a bad experience with them.
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: yelped on September 20, 2018, 11:35:30 PM
Details?
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on September 20, 2018, 11:41:54 PM
Details?
I made a reservation on UA to TLV and it was in Z class.
I knew that it was the last day it was pricing for that fare so I gave them a cc right away, 4 hrs passed and it wasn't ticketed so I called them and they assured that it will be done soon, long story short I kept on calling and they kept in promising that it's on Q and should be done shortly. 11Pm I called again and they assured again that I'm guaranteed with the fare since I gave them already the cc, at the end it was not ticketed before 12, next day I rang them up again and they apologized that they couldn't book cause fare has expired.  Bottom line they seem to me as another creepy so called corporate agency who doesn't even have their own contracts and ticketing. 
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: KSMH on September 21, 2018, 12:52:29 AM
See https://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.com/2017/01/31/eliminate-risk-booking-united-award/   or search united award...
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on September 21, 2018, 12:53:57 AM
See https://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.com/2017/01/31/eliminate-risk-booking-united-award/   or search united award...
TTC has nothing with award booking
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: KSMH on September 21, 2018, 01:01:22 AM
TTC has nothing with award booking
Just proving the point that it has to actually be ticketed to be final and confirmed. Usually on award there is a bigger possibility [ utilizing partners ] that it will not ticket.
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on September 21, 2018, 01:05:48 AM
Just proving the point that it has to actually be ticketed to be final and confirmed. Usually on award there is a bigger possibility [ utilizing partners ] that it will not ticket.
My 6 yrs old daughter knows that
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: rcarentals on September 21, 2018, 01:12:02 AM
I made a reservation on UA to TLV and it was in Z class.
I knew that it was the last day it was pricing for that fare so I gave them a cc right away, 4 hrs passed and it wasn't ticketed so I called them and they assured that it will be done soon, long story short I kept on calling and they kept in promising that it's on Q and should be done shortly. 11Pm I called again and they assured again that I'm guaranteed with the fare since I gave them already the cc, at the end it was not ticketed before 12, next day I rang them up again and they apologized that they couldn't book cause fare has expired.  Bottom line they seem to me as another creepy so called corporate agency who doesn't even have their own contracts and ticketing.

You called a call center.. I don't know the quality of the reps there - i can only speak for myself.

I have already ticketed dozens of these - it is our own contracts and ticketing...

Kinda sad but I messaged you the day you posted here..
"If you are actually ticketing a TTC fare - rather than use a call center - where the skill level is "so-so"... happy to ticket for you at our agency where skill level is very good."...

As you know - even in your case - an easy United 24hr waiver would have covered you for ticketing the next day with a stored fare... Mb next time.
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on September 21, 2018, 01:15:46 AM
You called a call center.. I don't know the quality of the reps there - i can only speak for myself.

I have already ticketed dozens of these - it is our own contracts and ticketing...

Kinda sad but I messaged you the day you posted here..
"If you are actually ticketing a TTC fare - rather than use a call center - where the skill level is "so-so"... happy to ticket for you at our agency where skill level is very good."...
Told you then, got my own skills bh, and have same access as you have


As you know - even in your case - an easy United 24hr waiver would have covered you for ticketing the next day with a stored fare... Mb next time.
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This is true, but wasnt going to waste more time with them
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on September 21, 2018, 01:20:46 AM
As you know - even in your case - an easy United 24hr waiver would have covered you for ticketing the next day with a stored fare... Mb next time.
By the way IIRC 24HFG usually only works if they pulled the fare and not when there is an official AP in the fare rule
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: yelped on September 21, 2018, 09:27:04 AM
Ouch that is annoying....
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: rcarentals on September 21, 2018, 10:14:03 AM
Our 24hr covers anything we hold with UA.
By the way IIRC 24HFG usually only works if they pulled the fare and not when there is an official AP in the fare rule
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: rcarentals on September 21, 2018, 10:18:03 AM
Told you then, got my own skills bh, and have same access as you have

Do you mean to say, you have access to store and ticket TTC fares?

There are very few agents in the USA, outside of the call center that can do this... I am guessing you mean access to regular GDS...

We have full access to the TTC GDS... slightly different to having regular access...
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on September 21, 2018, 11:47:45 AM
Do you mean to say, you have access to store and ticket TTC fares?

There are very few agents in the USA, outside of the call center that can do this... I am guessing you mean access to regular GDS...

We have full access to the TTC GDS... slightly different to having regular access...
I have access to the very best corporate contracts.
 
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: chff on September 21, 2018, 02:44:03 PM
I made a reservation on UA to TLV and it was in Z class.
I knew that it was the last day it was pricing for that fare so I gave them a cc right away, 4 hrs passed and it wasn't ticketed so I called them and they assured that it will be done soon, long story short I kept on calling and they kept in promising that it's on Q and should be done shortly. 11Pm I called again and they assured again that I'm guaranteed with the fare since I gave them already the cc, at the end it was not ticketed before 12, next day I rang them up again and they apologized that they couldn't book cause fare has expired.  Bottom line they seem to me as another creepy so called corporate agency who doesn't even have their own contracts and ticketing.
Or like most agencies/airline reps who don't have ticketing rights and gets dumped on a Q

I posted once how LH rebooked someone and 12 hours later when they arrived to the airport it wasn't ticketed and they had to pay
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: rcarentals on September 21, 2018, 07:51:46 PM
"The very best corp contracts" don't give you NET, the same price as TTC, since one way or another you are going to pay something for ticketing.
TTC as a consumer you get the entire discount with no fees, (it prices published though, it's not a real net).
As an agent, though we still benefit by selling TTC, which makes it the single best UA contract for agents, and better than any corp contract.(since even the best UA corp contracts have no benefits to agents without adding fees, and most likely anyone giving you access is charging you a fee).
I have access to the very best corporate contracts.
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: mendyt on September 22, 2018, 08:15:28 PM
"The very best corp contracts" don't give you NET, the same price as TTC, since one way or another you are going to pay something for ticketing.
TTC as a consumer you get the entire discount with no fees, (it prices published though, it's not a real net).
As an agent, though we still benefit by selling TTC, which makes it the single best UA contract for agents, and better than any corp contract.(since even the best UA corp contracts have no benefits to agents without adding fees, and most likely anyone giving you access is charging you a fee).
I hear you loud and clear!
Bottom line Pax is in Israel now and he didnt pay more than the TTC price
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: rcarentals on September 23, 2018, 01:52:03 AM
I hear you loud and clear!
Bottom line Pax is in Israel now and he didnt pay more than the TTC price
Not bad ;)
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: txtmax4 on January 15, 2019, 12:56:42 PM
Is TTC exclusively ex-USA?
Do they have a list of airlines that are under the contract, excluding all other airlines?
Title: Re: The Travel Collection - New amex benefit for gold and plat.
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 13, 2019, 07:24:08 PM
Does TTC care about hidden city ticketing?