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Title: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: EE4504 on October 07, 2018, 09:18:57 PM
https://www.vosizneias.com/306996/2018/10/07/brooklyn-ny-calls-for-calm-issued-as-1-arrested-during-bp-hachnasas-sefer-torah/ (https://www.vosizneias.com/306996/2018/10/07/brooklyn-ny-calls-for-calm-issued-as-1-arrested-during-bp-hachnasas-sefer-torah/)

If the police orders you to do something ....


Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: as2 on October 07, 2018, 09:21:58 PM
https://www.vosizneias.com/306996/2018/10/07/brooklyn-ny-calls-for-calm-issued-as-1-arrested-during-bp-hachnasas-sefer-torah/ (https://www.vosizneias.com/306996/2018/10/07/brooklyn-ny-calls-for-calm-issued-as-1-arrested-during-bp-hachnasas-sefer-torah/)

If the police orders you to do something ....


What a chilul Hashem.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: TimT on October 07, 2018, 09:23:42 PM
They shouldve tased his **s first
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Post by: shapsam on October 07, 2018, 09:24:02 PM
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Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: as2 on October 07, 2018, 09:32:30 PM
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That tweet reeks with ignorance.
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Post by: TimT on October 07, 2018, 09:33:20 PM
That tweet reeks with ignorance.
Many of his do
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: zh cohen on October 07, 2018, 10:10:49 PM
Sickening. Every one of those guys screaming Nazi should be required to spend a day in a Holocaust museum.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: yelped on October 07, 2018, 10:14:51 PM
Why are there so many uneducated, ignorant people around these days? Weren't Yidden always known to be literate and knowledgable? Where did this notion of it being a maaleh to be uneducated come from?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: zh cohen on October 07, 2018, 10:17:35 PM
And I'd love to see what Gestetner has to say about that police officer in Dallas who murdered a black guy in his own apartment, because she (the officer) was drunk and stumbled into his apartment.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: yitzgar on October 07, 2018, 10:24:50 PM
And I'd love to see what Gestetner has to say about that police officer in Dallas who murdered a black guy in his own apartment, because she (the officer) was drunk and stumbled into his apartment.
מה הקשר
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: chff on October 07, 2018, 11:29:20 PM
https://www.vosizneias.com/306996/2018/10/07/brooklyn-ny-calls-for-calm-issued-as-1-arrested-during-bp-hachnasas-sefer-torah/ (https://www.vosizneias.com/306996/2018/10/07/brooklyn-ny-calls-for-calm-issued-as-1-arrested-during-bp-hachnasas-sefer-torah/)

If the police orders you to do something ....



That tweet reeks with ignorance.



Nah - there is a bigger picture here & "Hence resists which becomes the reason for arrest" I believe is a good quote to this. There was a bank robbery here? There is a school that blocks off my block everyday, will I ever see the cops come and stop it?

Rumors are still floating around, but this seems to be an internal fight of BP Shomrim who used the cops to do the "job" - and based on the rumors the guy who was the קרבן is actually a family member of the coordinator from Shomrim
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Z56 on October 07, 2018, 11:32:25 PM
The rumor is true
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: TimT on October 07, 2018, 11:37:51 PM
So what ? They didnt come looking to single him out. They repeatedly announced to get on the sidewalk & he decided hes above the law.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Yammer on October 07, 2018, 11:37:54 PM


Nah - there is a bigger picture here & "Hence resists which becomes the reason for arrest" I believe is a good quote to this. There was a bank robbery here? There is a school that blocks off my block everyday, will I ever see the cops come and stop it?

Rumors are still floating around, but this seems to be an internal fight of BP Shomrim who used the cops to do the "job" - and based on the rumors the guy who was the קרבן is actually a family member of the coordinator from Shomrim
The rumor is true
This isn't the first time such claims have been made. Everyone will believe what they want...
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: chff on October 07, 2018, 11:41:46 PM
This isn't the first time such claims have been made. Everyone will believe what they want...
Straightforward this story doesn't make sense, should have never happen to begin with, something had to trigger it.

I'm not involved in no party, I wasn't there, but when I saw the videos without any commentery, I started to smell foul play
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Z56 on October 07, 2018, 11:41:49 PM
So what ? They didnt come looking to single him out. They repeatedly announced to get on the sidewalk & he decided hes above the law.

The cops came to the scene very aggressive and rude. And they just decided to grab the first one switching their noise the other way...

With all arguments aside cops who is wrong or right... They grab the guy as if they just caught him after a short police chase
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: as2 on October 07, 2018, 11:43:28 PM


Nah - there is a bigger picture here & "Hence resists which becomes the reason for arrest" I believe is a good quote to this. There was a bank robbery here? There is a school that blocks off my block everyday, will I ever see the cops come and stop it?

Rumors are still floating around, but this seems to be an internal fight of BP Shomrim who used the cops to do the "job" - and based on the rumors the guy who was the קרבן is actually a family member of the coordinator from Shomrim
Don't care what was behind it. If they framed him it's one thing, but there is pretty clear evidence of individuals blocking the street while being told not to, as well as acting in a way that can be defined as "assaulting a police officer." I don't know who was arrested, but if it was one of those individuals, it's fully deserved regardless of who they are.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: chff on October 07, 2018, 11:46:17 PM
Don't care what was behind it. If they framed him it's one thing, but there is pretty clear evidence of individuals blocking the street while being told not to, as well as acting in a way that can be defined as "assaulting a police officer." I don't know who was arrested, but if it was one of those individuals, it's fully deserved regardless of who they are.
Not saying the individual is right, but the cop definitely did not act in professional manner

From the NYPD patrol guide front page
"Maintain a higher standard of integrity than is generally expected of others
because so much is expected of us.
Value human life, respect the dignity of each individual and render our services
with courtesy and civility."
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: as2 on October 07, 2018, 11:51:26 PM
Not saying the individual is right, but the cop definitely did not act in professional manner

From the NYPD patrol guide front page
"Maintain a higher standard of integrity than is generally expected of others
because so much is expected of us.
Value human life, respect the dignity of each individual and render our services
with courtesy and civility."
How was the cop not acting professionally? The guy was resisting arrest, and in most cases would've been thrown to the pavement or tased for that. Not to mention the crowd trying to free him and shouting in the officers faces. If you want to be better, don't break the law, and if you do, cooperate.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: chff on October 07, 2018, 11:56:35 PM
How was the cop not acting professionally? The guy was resisting arrest, and in most cases would've been thrown to the pavement or tased for that. Not to mention the crowd trying to free him and shouting in the officers faces. If you want to be better, don't break the law, and if you do, cooperate.
Tried to post the video how the cop runs from behind him
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: TimT on October 07, 2018, 11:59:22 PM
Did you not see him run back to the middle of the street to block the police car from passing ?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: as2 on October 08, 2018, 12:02:03 AM
Tried to post the video how the cop runs from behind him
The one where he clearly walks back in front of the car after being told to get out of the street multiple times? I don't care about your race, gender, religion, or anything for that matter. Behave yourself and you won't get into trouble. Cop can be right or wrong it makes no difference. This guy appeared wrong from what I saw and needs to own up to that before he can criticize the cops.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: TimT on October 08, 2018, 12:05:43 AM
Permit or no permit, when an emergency vehicle is trying to get through with blaring sirens, you get the hell out of his way. Every 2yo knows that. They went too easy on him
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: chff on October 08, 2018, 12:08:22 AM
The one where he clearly walks back in front of the car after being told to get out of the street multiple times? I don't care about your race, gender, religion, or anything for that matter. Behave yourself and you won't get into trouble. Cop can be right or wrong it makes no difference. This guy appeared wrong from what I saw and needs to own up to that before he can criticize the cops.
This is starting to feel like FT where everyone is on the airlines side...

You know Rubashkin did bank fraud?

So this guy walks back in from of the car, does he gets 10 years jail for this? Walking back in front of the car is a felony? Which class?
I don't believe the patrol guidelines say to do what the cop did

What is clear, the cops arrived here like a cop has been shot, and like Yossi Gestetner said *Hence resists which becomes the reason for arrest...*"
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: as2 on October 08, 2018, 12:09:22 AM
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: chff on October 08, 2018, 12:16:04 AM
Now is going around a VN from the head of Shmira putting down the story and blaming Shomrim
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Z56 on October 08, 2018, 12:30:12 AM
Now is going around a VN from the head of Shmira putting down the story and blaming Shomrim

Heard that voice note 😉
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Yammer on October 08, 2018, 12:37:07 AM
Straightforward this story doesn't make sense, should have never happen to begin with, something had to trigger it.

I'm not involved in no party, I wasn't there, but when I saw the videos without any commentery, I started to smell foul play

-1

The cops came to the scene very aggressive and rude. And they just decided to grab the first one switching their noise the other way...

With all arguments aside cops who is wrong or right... They grab the guy as if they just caught him after a short police chase

-1

The one where he clearly walks back in front of the car after being told to get out of the street multiple times? I don't care about your race, gender, religion, or anything for that matter. Behave yourself and you won't get into trouble. Cop can be right or wrong it makes no difference. This guy appeared wrong from what I saw and needs to own up to that before he can criticize the cops.

+1

Permit or no permit, when an emergency vehicle is trying to get through with blaring sirens, you get the hell out of his way. Every 2yo knows that.

+

Now is going around a VN from the head of Shmira putting down the story and blaming Shomrim

Exactly my point.
This isn't the first time such claims have been made. Everyone will believe what they want...

I just want to add that my heart goes out to him and his family for what they are going through. Unfortunately he got caught up in the moment. That does meant aht he's right
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Joe4007 on October 08, 2018, 12:47:26 AM
Sickening. Every one of those guys screaming Nazi should be required to spend a day in a Holocaust museum.
+1000!

What a disgrace using that term like that!
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Moshe123 on October 08, 2018, 08:22:41 AM
The guy who the resisted behaved idiotically, but what was this insane level 1 mobilization for a Hachnasas Sefer Torah?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Toasted on October 08, 2018, 08:39:10 AM
The guy who the resisted behaved idiotically, but what was this insane level 1 mobilization for a Hachnasas Sefer Torah?
You answered the question before you even asked it.
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Post by: chff on October 08, 2018, 01:22:19 PM
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Post by: Menachem613 on October 08, 2018, 02:30:07 PM
The guy arrested is lucky he doesnt belong to some other minority group because he wouldve been tased and then some.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: shapsam on October 08, 2018, 02:41:09 PM
The guy arrested is lucky he doesnt belong to some other minority group because he wouldve been tased and then some.
Sure, just like in the video above...
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Post by: TimT on October 08, 2018, 03:30:16 PM
Sure, just like in the video above...
For every 1 video like that one I could show you 10 where the guy gets beaten, tased, or worse.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: BP16 on October 08, 2018, 04:48:35 PM
https://nypost.com/2018/10/08/arrest-of-hasidic-man-sparks-protest-in-brooklyn/
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: whYME on October 08, 2018, 04:50:40 PM
For every 1 video like that one I could show you 10 where the guy gets beaten, tased, or worse.
for every 1 video you can show of them being beaten and tased for blocking traffic I'll show you 10 where nothing happened to them.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: whYME on October 08, 2018, 04:52:59 PM
when an emergency vehicle is trying to get through with blaring sirens, you get the hell out of his way.
This wasn't "an emergency vehicle trying to get through," it was the cops trying to clear the road.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: shapsam on October 08, 2018, 04:55:19 PM
https://nypost.com/2018/10/08/arrest-of-hasidic-man-sparks-protest-in-brooklyn/
Quote
Herskovitz was given a desk-appearance ticket for obstructing governmental administration, police said
Whoa did he get off easy! either way, a big chillul hashem.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: TimT on October 08, 2018, 04:56:36 PM
https://nypost.com/2018/10/08/arrest-of-hasidic-man-sparks-protest-in-brooklyn/
NYP is good at overdoing it, as usual. No cop was injured & that wasnt a protest at the precinct, just some bored bochurim (its still bein hazmanim) standing around hoping to see some action.
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Post by: TimT on October 08, 2018, 04:58:17 PM
This wasn't "an emergency vehicle trying to get through," it was the cops trying to clear the road.
Makes no difference what theyre trying to do. It is an emergency vehicle & you have to clear the road when theyre trying to get through.
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Post by: whYME on October 08, 2018, 05:02:21 PM
Makes no difference what theyre trying to do. It is an emergency vehicle & you have to clear the road when theyre trying to get through.
Of course it makes a difference. They were trying to clear the road for the sake of clearing the road, they weren't actually trying to get through.
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Post by: TimT on October 08, 2018, 05:07:23 PM
Of course it makes a difference. They were trying to clear the road for the sake of clearing the road, they weren't actually trying to get through.
And thus ? Ok to block them ? ::)
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Yammer on October 08, 2018, 05:16:53 PM
https://nypost.com/2018/10/08/arrest-of-hasidic-man-sparks-protest-in-brooklyn/
Happy he got off easy
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: whYME on October 08, 2018, 05:25:51 PM
And thus ? Ok to block them ? ::)
No, but it's kinda disingenuous to call it "blocking an emergency vehicle is trying to get through with blaring sirens." It's more akin to ignoring cops yelling at you to move back.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: as2 on October 08, 2018, 05:26:34 PM
No, but it's kinda disingenuous to call it "blocking an emergency vehicle is trying to get through with blaring sirens." It's more akin to ignoring cops yelling at you to move back.
Call it what you want, but it's wrong regardless.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: TimT on October 08, 2018, 05:27:27 PM
Happy he got off easy
You could thank more than a few knockers for that. Makes the cops loathe us even more.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: whYME on October 08, 2018, 05:29:03 PM
Call it what you want, but it's wrong regardless.
I never said it wasn't wrong, I only said he wasn't preventing emergency vehicles from getting through.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Yammer on October 08, 2018, 05:29:19 PM
You could thank more than a few knockers for that. Makes the cops loathe us even more.
Was it Shomrim or Shmira.....?
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Post by: Menachem613 on October 08, 2018, 05:37:30 PM
When does his victory tour begin? Will he be visiting Yeshivas?
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Post by: TimT on October 08, 2018, 05:48:19 PM
Was it Shomrim or Shmira.....?
Anyone who's looking to get re/elected ;)
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Post by: TimT on October 08, 2018, 05:53:07 PM
I quote Be prepared for lots of traffic and parking tickets next few days
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Post by: hvaces42 on October 08, 2018, 06:13:06 PM
I quote Be prepared for lots of traffic and parking tickets next few days
Or none at all. The Cops will be keeping a low profile after this. Just dont expect them to respond to actual emergencies either.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: hvaces42 on October 08, 2018, 06:17:28 PM
Was it Shomrim or Shmira.....?
You mean the kids that play cops and robbers? Thats Shmira.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Yammer on October 08, 2018, 06:24:36 PM
I quote Be prepared for lots of traffic and parking tickets next few days
Or none at all. The Cops will be keeping a low profile after this. Just dont expect them to respond to actual emergencies either.
Everyone will keep a low profile after this...
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: User6669 on October 09, 2018, 10:19:06 AM
Was it Shomrim or Shmira.....?
A conflict between the two actually started this.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: stooges44 on October 09, 2018, 10:26:09 AM
Everyone will keep a low profile after this...

If only!!

My rebbi always says that when avimelech told Yitzchok to leave because he was getting too rich and everyone was getting jealous, what did Yitzchok do? Did he start protesting saying it's not fair, it's anti-semitism? Did he go on tv crying about minorities and place hugs ads in the paper about discrimination? No, he got up and he left and all was well.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: TimT on October 09, 2018, 11:25:37 AM
A conflict between the two actually started this.
What exactly was the point of shmira opening a bp branch ? Not enough conflict in ch ?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: shwarmabob on October 09, 2018, 11:38:37 AM
I still don't get it: why didn't they get a permit for the event? This could have been avoided
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: stooges44 on October 09, 2018, 11:44:08 AM
I still don't get it: why didn't they get a permit for the event? This could have been avoided

I guess you're not a new yorker  ;)
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: TimT on October 09, 2018, 11:44:33 AM
I still don't get it: why didn't they get a permit for the event? This could have been avoided
Somebody was too lazy. Keep in mind there were numerous hachnasas sifrei torah happening simultaneously in BP that day. If traffic aint bad enough on a regular day....
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: shwarmabob on October 09, 2018, 11:56:01 AM
Somebody was too lazy. Keep in mind there were numerous hachnasas sifrei torah happening simultaneously in BP that day. If traffic aint bad enough on a regular day....
I know but there are hundreds of hachnasas sifrei torah in NYC every year, almost all of them without any incident. It's not like you cannot get a permit. Maybe some police overreacted but calling nypd nazis is moronic and completely out of the line.
I don't call the IRS antisemites just because they make me pay taxes.
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Post by: whYME on October 09, 2018, 12:00:41 PM
Maybe some police overreacted but calling nypd nazis is moronic and completely out of the line.
+1
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: elit on October 09, 2018, 12:09:29 PM
Not saying the individual is right, but the cop definitely did not act in professional manner

From the NYPD patrol guide front page
"Maintain a higher standard of integrity than is generally expected of others
because so much is expected of us.
Value human life, respect the dignity of each individual and render our services
with courtesy and civility."
the NYPD guide book?? how about our guide book? am segulah, kedoishim tehiyu, lo tichalel.... we are supposed to set an exemplary example not justify our stooping to other ppls levels
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Emkay on October 09, 2018, 12:12:27 PM
I still don't get it: why didn't they get a permit for the event? This could have been avoided
Arrogance, laziness, holier than though, and lack of interest in permit fees.
Source: My cynical self.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Yammer on October 09, 2018, 12:23:57 PM
A conflict between the two actually started this.
If true
I still don't get it: why didn't they get a permit for the event? This could have been avoided
According to Shmira the organizer thought that you don't need a permit and was planning to walk on the sidewalk for the short haul (🤷), and by the time they tried it was too late
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: shwarmabob on October 09, 2018, 12:53:15 PM
I guess you're not a new yorker  ;)
Actually, I am. I just don't %&*&^%@ with the NYPD. If they tell me to move, I move precisely because they may overreact.
If you are looking for a more laid back environment move to the suburbs.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: hvaces42 on October 09, 2018, 05:35:31 PM
What exactly was the point of shmira opening a bp branch ? Not enough conflict in ch ?
Shmira in BP is CWSP i dont believe they are the same as CH. Levy Leifer was bored so he opened CWSP to buff everything.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: hvaces42 on October 09, 2018, 05:39:51 PM
According to Shmira the organizer thought that you don't need a permit and was planning to walk on the sidewalk for the short haul (🤷), and by the time they tried it was too late
Shmira does what they want without notifying NYPD. Like i said earlier kids playing cops and robbers with real consequences. Shomrim was formed to combat a specific problem. Shmira was formed to compete with shomrim. I cannot fathom why we even countenance Shmira. And for all those who will say certain people in shomrim did "X"...let those without sin in Shmira please stand up. There is info on them too.
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Post by: Something Fishy on October 09, 2018, 05:47:48 PM
Unpermitted hachnasas sefer torah happening in Monsey right now.  SWAT is on scene.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: as2 on October 09, 2018, 05:48:51 PM
Unpermitted hachnasas sefer torah happening in Monsey right now.  SWAT is on scene.
Please tell me this isn't another sick joke.
ETA:I heard swat was responding to calls of shots fired.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Freddie on October 09, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
https://www.vosizneias.com/306996/2018/10/07/brooklyn-ny-calls-for-calm-issued-as-1-arrested-during-bp-hachnasas-sefer-torah/ (https://www.vosizneias.com/306996/2018/10/07/brooklyn-ny-calls-for-calm-issued-as-1-arrested-during-bp-hachnasas-sefer-torah/)

If the police orders you to do something ....



oy the pain. the pain. all those cameras shooting vertical video.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: ExGingi on October 09, 2018, 06:50:51 PM
Actually, I am. I just don't %&*&^%@ with the NYPD. If they tell me to move, I move precisely because they may are highly likely to overreact.
FTFY

The personality of people that leads them into a "law enforcement job" isn't that far from those that end up on the other side of the career path (though I'd venture to say that those that end up on the legal side of things, are either lazier, or slightly smarter). It's safest to keep a distance from them.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: gozalim on October 09, 2018, 09:12:06 PM
FTFY

The personality of people that leads them into a "law enforcement job" isn't that far from those that end up on the other side of the career path (though I'd venture to say that those that end up on the legal side of things, are either lazier, or slightly smarter). It's safest to keep a distance from them.
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Yammer on October 09, 2018, 09:16:45 PM
Unpermitted hachnasas sefer torah happening in Monsey right now.  SWAT is on scene.
Lol
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Proisrael on October 10, 2018, 04:28:23 AM
Why resist arrest? Fight what happens after. He is lucky he was not tased or severely beaten. This was restraint by the police.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: hvaces42 on October 10, 2018, 08:10:25 AM
Why resist arrest? Fight what happens after. He is lucky he was not tased or severely beaten. This was restraint by the police.
Its a natural reaction, like fight or flight. No one wants to get arrested and no one is thinking clearly at that moment. Takes a lot of restraint on the part of the person being arrested to accept that it is happening. It was all fun and games until it got real.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: chevron on October 10, 2018, 01:12:16 PM
They think a whole shturem will happen and the cops will just let them go.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: shapsam on October 10, 2018, 01:14:15 PM
They think a whole shturem will happen and the cops will just let them go.
That is exactly what happened.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: zh cohen on October 10, 2018, 02:25:55 PM
That is exactly what happened.

You think he would have spent a minute more in lock-up if they would not have called the police Nazis?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: shapsam on October 10, 2018, 02:32:21 PM
You think he would have spent a minute more in lock-up if they would not have called the police Nazis?
I doubt that calling them Nazis had anything to do with him being released.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: chff on December 02, 2018, 11:45:27 PM
https://a860-openrecords.nyc.gov/response/338101?token=43f102011d574c33a244a49999f5418d
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY, 1 Arrested During BP Hachnasas Sefer Torah ...!!
Post by: Definitions on December 03, 2018, 02:22:38 PM
https://a860-openrecords.nyc.gov/response/338101?token=43f102011d574c33a244a49999f5418d
Looks cool but I have no idea what I'm reading. The only thing that I saw was on page 8 where it says they tackled a guy.