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Title: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MosheS on May 18, 2009, 12:58:33 PM
Would greatly appreciate if someone can post information on how to go about getting a good price for a train pass (actually all transportation pass) in Switzerland. I will be traveling to Switzerland in June for 8 days. I would like an 8 day pass. Any info about it would be appreciated. Thank you
Title: Zurich Master Thread
Post by: me on March 15, 2010, 08:22:56 PM
After Shavuos I'm flying to Israel with a 12 hour stopover in Zurich (morning to night).

PLEASE REPLY HERE WITH SUGGESTIONS!

I'm flying with my wife and baby (will be just over 3 months old).

Should I rent a car for the day?
Anywhere good to base myself? Hotel etc?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: 12 hours in Zurich, what to do?
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 15, 2010, 08:41:29 PM
No car.
Buy a "Tageskarte", loosely translated as a daypass. Make sure it covers your way to and from the airport, as well as the city center. From the airport take a train to "Zurich HB" which is is the main station, and in the center of zurich (takes 7 mins). Right in front of you, lies the Bahnhofstrasse, which is the local 5th ave. Walk casually down the street, and you will get to the lake which is beautiful. Take a boatride using your daypass (depending on how many zones you got covered in your pass, you can go further.)
While strolling ask where is the "Altstadt" which means: Old city. Its very close by.
Tips: go to www.irgz.ch to download the latest kosher list (they don't have hechesherim, just products that they checked and is very reliable). When speaking about "denner", "migros" or "coop", they are talking about supermarket names.
Try changing some swiss francs, as cc might not be accepted below $10. Block temporarily your cc, as they have very expensive things in town. ;-)
The price per square meter in this street, is one of the highest in the world.
And finally, don't speak out loud ZRH airports official name, as dutch/flemish people might turn 'you'into real estate.
Title: Re: 12 hours in Zurich, what to do?
Post by: hocker on March 16, 2010, 04:44:09 AM
superflyer where did you get somuch knowledge about ZRH.
Title: Re: 12 hours in Zurich, what to do?
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 16, 2010, 08:03:09 AM
Favorite hub.
Title: Re: 12 hours in Zurich, what to do?
Post by: hocker on March 16, 2010, 11:22:35 AM
i agree Flughafen is a gr8 hub. Just get them 2 finish the work on the shuttle.
Title: Re: 12 hours in Zurich, what to do?
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 16, 2010, 11:37:56 AM
Flughafen means airport, its the "K" word...
Title: Re: 12 hours in Zurich, what to do?
Post by: me on March 21, 2010, 10:24:38 PM
Thanks SuperFlyer!

What about kosher food? any good lunchtime restaraunts?
Title: Re: 12 hours in Zurich, what to do?
Post by: ChaimB on March 21, 2010, 11:25:12 PM
Thanks SuperFlyer!

What about kosher food? any good lunchtime restaraunts?

 2 dairy Shein & Fein or I think Milk & Honey. I didnt like S&F so much

 Fleshig is Shalom very small portions for alot of $$$
Title: Re: 12 hours in Zurich, what to do?
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 22, 2010, 05:58:21 AM
There are always a couple that open and close. there was rimon, shuarma place on the street (amechaye), and maybe this books & bagel place is still open.

chuchem (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=488) should knows more about this
Title: Re: Zurich Master Thread
Post by: hocker on May 23, 2010, 02:23:32 AM
books and bagels is open and runing
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on June 09, 2010, 01:09:22 PM
Once I'm in Switzerland, any recommendations on nice places with views of the Alps to get away for 2-3 days? Any SPG hotels recommended or do I have to stay in Zurich?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2010, 01:19:17 PM
I'll post this here for future reference:
Zurich Trip Notes (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/7260)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moe on June 09, 2010, 03:49:39 PM
Once I'm in Switzerland, any recommendations on nice places with views of the Alps to get away for 2-3 days? Any SPG hotels recommended or do I have to stay in Zurich?
They have 2 spg's in Davos, which is realy in my opinion.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 09, 2010, 04:28:27 PM
really what?
Title: Trip to swizterland and italy
Post by: moishh on June 10, 2010, 09:05:28 AM
My wife and I are taking a trip next week to madrid for a day, then flying into zurich for 8 days.  and we we were thinking of taking a train down to venice for shabbos in the middle.  Any ideas of what to do while in these places? also best places to stay and eat.  Ive got 80000 starwood points but want to save like 20000.
Title: Re: Trip to swizterland and italy
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 10, 2010, 10:05:10 AM
Look into Interlaken, some great mountains...Juangfrau is a must, you can ski, be pulled by dogs, Ice caves very neat... not cheap though!
Title: Re: Trip to swizterland and italy
Post by: moishh on June 10, 2010, 10:28:57 AM
i can ski and do snow stuff in the summer?  and where is the best place to stay as a base?...i like the snow dogs idea
Title: Re: Trip to swizterland and italy
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 10, 2010, 10:45:12 AM
it's not proper ski, because the slope is small, but it's the idea thats great... it's hot and you go skiing/snowboarding... (it acutally gets a bit cold up there)

The train goes through the mountain for about 2 hours (literally through the mountain).... It's definitely a must...

I stayed in St. Moritz, So Starwood but I love the city, they call it playground for the rich.. nice lake you can go hiking biking etc.... not a cheap one though. at the time I stayed at the carlton...
Title: Re: Trip to swizterland and italy
Post by: moishh on June 10, 2010, 11:30:34 AM
thanks...any tips on transportation and food?
Title: Re: Trip to swizterland and italy
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 10, 2010, 11:48:37 AM
Look into Interlaken, some great mountains...Juangfrau is a must, you can ski, be pulled by dogs, Ice caves very neat... not cheap though!

Interlaken is nice, but relative to the other places in Switzerland its nothing.
thanks...any tips on transportation and food?

See the kosher list of switzerland of products that can be purchased in non-jewish stores http://www.irgz.ch/Koscherliste100307.pdf

Title: Re: Trip to swizterland and italy
Post by: moishh on June 10, 2010, 11:50:57 AM
Interlaken is nice, but relative to the other places in Switzerland its nothing.

what other places in switzlerand...please enlighten me...its a once in a lifetime trip for us and we wanna make the best of it in the short time we have...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2010, 12:15:47 PM
My wife and I are taking a trip next week to madrid for a day, then flying into zurich for 8 days.  and we we were thinking of taking a train down to venice for shabbos in the middle.  Any ideas of what to do while in these places? also best places to stay and eat.  Ive got 80000 starwood points but want to save like 20000.
I've merged this with the Switzerland Master Thread.  Please discuss Madrid and Venice in their own Master Threads that already exist, Thanks!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 10, 2010, 02:13:29 PM
what other places in switzlerand...please enlighten me...its a once in a lifetime trip for us and we wanna make the best of it in the short time we have...


There is what the "yiddelach" consider nice, which is not bad at all such as St Moritz and the likes, but you have the places that have the more untampered look as well.

Places such as saas-fee (saas almagell), arolla, and even crans-montana and zermatt are beautiful.

the only downside is that it is a bit out of the way.

Saas Fee

(http://www.adora.ch/images/bilder2/Saas-Fee1.jpg)

Few mins drive from Saas Almagell

(http://img.fotocommunity.com/photos/11018423.jpg)


Arolla

(http://www.unifr.ch/geoscience/geographie/ssgmfiches/glacier/figures/210301_glacier-calotte.jpg)


Crans Montana

(http://www.ultimate-ski.com/vnoffice/data/0/0/15/155/Gallery_56i.jpg)


Zermatt

(http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/17/fd/35/gert-niederlande-zermatt.jpg)



The pics aren't anything major, but I didnt really have more time to spare.


Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on June 10, 2010, 02:34:48 PM
Any SPG hotels like Sheraton Davos Hotel Waldhuus or ArabellaSheraton Hotel Seehof fit that mold (of your beautiful images) or do we have to fend for ourselves?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 10, 2010, 02:58:03 PM
zermatt is a must
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 10, 2010, 03:16:18 PM
Any SPG hotels like Sheraton Davos Hotel Waldhuus or ArabellaSheraton Hotel Seehof fit that mold (of your beautiful images) or do we have to fend for ourselves?

not sure what you mean to say that the hotel fits that mold.

You can have beautiful scenery but in a town, which kind of messes it up.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on June 10, 2010, 03:59:10 PM
not sure what you mean to say that the hotel fits that mold.

You can have beautiful scenery but in a town, which kind of messes it up.

In other words, where do I stay to go to these beautiful places you have pictured? I assume it costs a fortune out there.

I was asking if by chance they had a SPG hotel in one of these beautiful settings so I can save some $$$$
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moishh on June 10, 2010, 05:12:56 PM
thanks for the tips superflyer..and the pics!!  do you think i just stay in zurich spg as a base or davos dorf?  cuz the davos dorf spgs are cheaper and have cash/points available.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 11, 2010, 01:29:03 AM
The pics I posted I find are a lousy representation, and reality is much nicer (as opposed to the usual tourist trap pics), but had ittle time looking for pics.

I assume that wherever there is an SPG, its a city, crowded, and lost its purpose.

(No offense, but quite a few americans that personally know, went to Switzerland, and they couldn't tell the difference. It was just mountains vs mountains. Such people should stay in an SPG).

I would not travel out of zurich to visit the mountains for the day.

Travelling around I'd do by train (www.sbb.ch) or you coud end your fight in GVA (geneva) for the aforementioned places.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on June 11, 2010, 09:41:20 AM
The pics I posted I find are a lousy representation, and reality is much nicer (as opposed to the usual tourist trap pics), but had ittle time looking for pics.

I assume that wherever there is an SPG, its a city, crowded, and lost its purpose.

(No offense, but quite a few americans that personally know, went to Switzerland, and they couldn't tell the difference. It was just mountains vs mountains. Such people should stay in an SPG).

I would not travel out of zurich to visit the mountains for the day.

Travelling around I'd do by train (www.sbb.ch) or you coud end your fight in GVA (geneva) for the aforementioned places.


So if you had 3.5 days in Switzerland, landing in Zurich, how would you spend it? Where would you stay? Your taste seems right up my alley. Thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 11, 2010, 09:46:56 AM

So if you had 3.5 days in Switzerland, landing in Zurich, how would you spend it? Where would you stay? Your taste seems right up my alley. Thanks

Alright, I expected to be put in cheirem for my comment, but I guess I have someone on my side.

I will pm you the number of someone you can call (and speak in english) that knows everything concerning mountains and so on, like no other.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 11, 2010, 10:02:31 AM
imho, mountains are mountains. like jackie mason said, if youre looking for blue water, you need not go past your toilet bowl
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 11, 2010, 11:48:06 AM
imho, mountains are mountains. like jackie mason said, if youre looking for blue water, you need not go past your toilet bowl

I want to hear someone say something similar about hotel/airlines, and get lynched on the public forum....
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: silverfaxmachine on June 15, 2010, 09:58:51 AM
There is a hotel in Arosa Hotel Metropol. It is a bit primitive but the food is amazing and as I went right before pesach they gave good bochurim deals. Skiing was great there!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 15, 2010, 11:04:45 AM
Hi all

I have been to all places mentioned. Davos is nice and has a spg hotel. There are some nice mountains around, but it does not get close to St. Moritz or Zermatt.

St. Moritz has a lovely lake, amazing mountains around. The village itself is also very nice. This is the last summer were the kosher hotel is open. To stay there is very expensive, but you can stay at other hotels and buy takeout or eat a supper there. There is even a bakery that sells kosher bread. Its prob. the best bread you will ever have. St. Moritz has minjan, mikva, kosher food.... I think its your best bet.

Zermatt is also nice, The picture from sf is the famous matterhorn, you can also do summer skiing there. A nice, expensive, half day fun. (after one, the snow gets to slushi) No kosher food, minjan or mikve

My advice, go to St. Moritz!!! If you are not to fussy about hotels stay in the Hotel Sonne. Decend rooms, good prices, but nothing fancy. You will not spend to much time in your hotel anyway, so dont waste $$$ on it. www.sonne-stmoritz.ch

Any other questions, feel free to ask me
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 15, 2010, 11:06:29 AM
I would rank it

1) St Moritz
2) St Moritz
3) Zermatt
4) Davos
5) Arosa
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 15, 2010, 11:08:22 AM
Before I forget one important think. Davos looks like bnei Barak in the summer. Its full, really full of frum jews after 9 Av. You cant believe it until seen. The reason for that. All cablecars are for free in the summer in Davos. For a family with 8 kids, that makes a big difference on the budget, so a lot of people go there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 15, 2010, 11:19:41 AM
There is what the "yiddelach" consider nice, which is not bad at all such as St Moritz and the likes, but you have the places that have the more untampered look as well.

Places such as saas-fee (saas almagell), arolla, and even crans-montana and zermatt are beautiful.

the only downside is that it is a bit out of the way.



As i predicted....
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 15, 2010, 12:41:18 PM
St. Moritz is my pick... you may have to forget about spg if you want to stay in the mountain areas. But I would say it's worth splurging on a hotel in a good location. I had a great time in St Moritz!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 15, 2010, 01:08:02 PM
is the hotel closing down or are they only going to be open winter?  another hotel ive heard rave reviews about in st moritz but havent stayed there myself is the badrutts palace
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 15, 2010, 01:29:55 PM
is the hotel closing down or are they only going to be open winter?  another hotel ive heard rave reviews about in st moritz but havent stayed there myself is the badrutts palace
Badrutts palace, Suvretta, Kulm and Kempinsky are the nice hotels in St. Moritz, but they cost alot. Most will start with 400 USD a room. The hotel that I gave is very basic but 1/3 of the price. So if you have the cash and its important to you then go to the mentioned 4. I dont think its worth it. You can have a drink at night in any of these places. The room is nicer, but thats it
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: AtallD on June 15, 2010, 03:10:11 PM
We went to switzerland last summer for five days and then to Israel. We stayed in Lucerne - abosolutely beautiful! a quiet, gorgeous, 'city,' surrounding 'Lake Lucerne.' We took 2 day trips to surrounding mountains with 'Best of Switzerland'  - booked through Viator.com (Day 2: Mt. Pilatus - up by cable car and down by steepest cogwheel train (48% gradient)  mt. is 7,000 feet high, beautiful views and hiking trails. and Day 23: Mt. Titlis - up and down by 3 cable cars (one revloving one) mt. is10,000 feet high, iceflyer (wide chair lift where you can see close-up crevasse views), and sledding!). Day 4:We rented a speed boat at the lake for a reasonable price and it was absolutely beautiful - surrounded by mountains and clear blue water! Lucerne is not as touristy as St. Moritz and you can find really nice hotels at much cheaper prices. We stayed at the hotel Astoria (make sure to get superior room) which was just 5 min walk from the main train station and from the shul. The only down side is there is not much kosher food. There is kosher bread in a bakery near the shul. You will have to get a list of which ones are good or jsut ask at the shul. There is a small kosher grocery that sells a few kosher items but you ahev to call and make an appointment for them to open up for you. We stocked up in Zurich before we headed by train to Lucernce (approximately an hr train ride.) Our hotel had a fridge so it worked out great.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 15, 2010, 04:46:52 PM
We went to switzerland last summer for five days and then to Israel. We stayed in Lucerne - abosolutely beautiful! a quiet, gorgeous, 'city,' surrounding 'Lake Lucerne.' We took 2 day trips to surrounding mountains with 'Best of Switzerland'  - booked through Viator.com (Day 2: Mt. Pilatus - up by cable car and down by steepest cogwheel train (48% gradient)  mt. is 7,000 feet high, beautiful views and hiking trails. and Day 23: Mt. Titlis - up and down by 3 cable cars (one revloving one) mt. is10,000 feet high, iceflyer (wide chair lift where you can see close-up crevasse views), and sledding!). Day 4:We rented a speed boat at the lake for a reasonable price and it was absolutely beautiful - surrounded by mountains and clear blue water! Lucerne is not as touristy as St. Moritz and you can find really nice hotels at much cheaper prices. We stayed at the hotel Astoria (make sure to get superior room) which was just 5 min walk from the main train station and from the shul. The only down side is there is not much kosher food. There is kosher bread in a bakery near the shul. You will have to get a list of which ones are good or jsut ask at the shul. There is a small kosher grocery that sells a few kosher items but you ahev to call and make an appointment for them to open up for you. We stocked up in Zurich before we headed by train to Lucernce (approximately an hr train ride.) Our hotel had a fridge so it worked out great.

Thanks for your input and small tripreport. Lucerne is very nice, but its not in the mountains. Its a regular city surrounded by nice mountains. But its not the swiss Alps. St. Moritz is 1800 m high and a proper mountain village. Its surrounded by little villages, that are very scenic and there are beautiful hikes around.

You cant compare St. Moritz to Lucerne, its totaly diffrent. But I will say it again, especially since this is the last year of "kosher" st. moritz, go there!

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on June 16, 2010, 10:29:18 AM
If I have a 36 hour stop over in Zurich on my way over to TLV on Swiss, what happens with my luggage? Lockers? Any difference if I fly business class? Would Swiss hold for me? Thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 16, 2010, 12:23:49 PM
no they will not hold it for you. Its a regular stop and you will have to collect, they will only send it to end destination if its less then 24 hours. Deposit it at the luggage storage at the airport or take it to your hotel.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 16, 2010, 03:06:25 PM
Arosa was great for me!

YAY! 30 posts!!!!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on June 16, 2010, 03:08:35 PM
Deposit it at the luggage storage at the airport or take it to your hotel.

Anyone have ballpark idea how much it would cost to hold 4 bags in storage? I assume shleping 4 bags 2 ways on a train can be cumbersome. Thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 16, 2010, 04:37:41 PM
I dont know how much it is. What hotel are you staying and how many people are you. I can tell you how good its linked to public transport.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: AtallD on June 16, 2010, 04:44:25 PM
There is a baggage storage at the main train station in Zurich so you could take your bags there and leave them. It used to be... 12 CHF per bag for day 1 and 7 CHF per bag per day 2 and 3. The prices may have gone up... check the Swiss Rail website (www.sbb.ch/en) for stations and services.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 16, 2010, 04:58:29 PM
This is the pricelist at the airport

http://www.zurich-airport.com/Portaldata/2/Resources/documents/dienstleistungen/ZRH_Gepaeckaufbewahrung_EN.pdf

Its not to bad. Dont shlep it with you!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on June 16, 2010, 05:11:42 PM
This is the pricelist at the airport

http://www.zurich-airport.com/Portaldata/2/Resources/documents/dienstleistungen/ZRH_Gepaeckaufbewahrung_EN.pdf

Its not to bad. Dont shlep it with you!

Thanks. They don't call you chuchem for nothing.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 16, 2010, 05:31:31 PM
This is the pricelist at the airport

http://www.zurich-airport.com/Portaldata/2/Resources/documents/dienstleistungen/ZRH_Gepaeckaufbewahrung_EN.pdf

Its not to bad. Dont shlep it with you!
Thanks. They don't call you chuchem for nothing.

Not sure, the file doesn't open.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 16, 2010, 06:10:26 PM
It does, just tried again
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 16, 2010, 06:16:45 PM
It does, just tried again

Maybe its my pc, but I promise you i cannot open it.

local pdfs I can.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 16, 2010, 06:18:43 PM
It works in IE but not FF for me.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 16, 2010, 06:20:45 PM
in chrome i don't get anything.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 16, 2010, 06:26:08 PM
I use IE, so I guess whoever wants can check it on IE or find it through googling zuerich airport, passenger services
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 16, 2010, 06:32:41 PM
I use chrome and pdfs never open in the browser. That's what I use IE for (that, and Bing cb)....
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 16, 2010, 06:34:41 PM
I use chrome and pdfs never open in the browser. That's what I use IE for (that, and Bing cb)....
normally it goes.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on June 16, 2010, 10:17:19 PM
Is the business lounge in Zurich anything special on SWISS? I would have a 10:30 PM flight to TLV arriving 3:30 AM. This would be after a 36 hour stopover to see the Alps and a 10 trip to Zurich.

At that point I could use a nice lounge to pass out till my flight takes off. 3 1/2 hour flight to TLV arriving at 3:30 AM will do wonders for my jet lag.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 16, 2010, 10:39:47 PM
Is the business lounge in Zurich anything special on SWISS? I would have a 10:30 PM flight to TLV arriving 3:30 AM. This would be after a 36 hour stopover to see the Alps and a 10 trip to Zurich.

At that point I could use a nice lounge to pass out till my flight takes off. 3 1/2 hour flight to TLV arriving at 3:30 AM will do wonders for my jet lag.
The LX business lounge in ZRH is nice, but it's extremely far from the TLV gates.
There's a generic airport lounge that's closer.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 17, 2010, 04:14:47 AM
Little correction Dan.

Long hauls, including TLV depart from terminal E (which I made from the lounge in A, in a record of 5 mins sharp till the gate !), but is usually a good half an hour away.

Now the best business and *A G lounge is in the terminal A (you get there when entering ZRH airport coming from outside, or from european flights.

So if you are coming in the airport, either from GVA by plane, or from outside, you are very close to the Terminal A lounge (not the First lounge, unless you are flying first).
At the reception you can ask them for a shower.

For some reason I always get shower number 4 of the ladies side... (Don't worry its private rooms, and if not for the fact that the mens showers are accessed via the men toilet, I believe that wouldn't even differentiate)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 17, 2010, 08:10:39 AM
Superflyer, i think thats what dan said. There is a big * and swiss lounge at the airside center. Thats between terminal a and b.
That terminal is before security and the train taking you to terminal e. If you are lucky it takes 5 min, if not it can take 30 and since gates close 15 min before deprture, that means you have to leave the lounge 45 min before to be save
There is another lounge in e. Its not run by swiss but swiss business and first passengers have access. Its not as nice and has no showers, but its after security, so you can stay there until 20 min before the flight. If you dont need a shower and want to relax without leaving early take that one.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 17, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
Superflyer, i think thats what dan said. There is a big * and swiss lounge at the airside center. Thats between terminal a and b.
That terminal is before security and the train taking you to terminal e. If you are lucky it takes 5 min, if not it can take 30 and since gates close 15 min before deprture, that means you have to leave the lounge 45 min before to be save
There is another lounge in e. Its not run by swiss but swiss business and first passengers have access. Its not as nice and has no showers, but its after security, so you can stay there until 20 min before the flight. If you dont need a shower and want to relax without leaving early take that one.

how is that different from what I said?

the E terminal lounge is a waste of time.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 17, 2010, 08:21:12 AM
The LX business lounge in ZRH is nice, but it's extremely far from the TLV gates.
There's a generic airport lounge that's closer.

Is true when coming from a long haul and connecting to a long haul.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on June 17, 2010, 10:14:58 AM
The LX business lounge in ZRH is nice, but it's extremely far from the TLV gates.
There's a generic airport lounge that's closer.

Is this one after security? Any idea what it's called or I just ask after security?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 17, 2010, 10:26:21 AM
Well if coming from outside the airport, and using the regular police checkpoint (without going up the stairs), you either follow the swiss business lounge signs, or move towards the x-ray machines (you will see the transfer/ticketing desk on your right).
Going towards the x-ray machines, stay on the left side of the hall (next to the smokers lounge), and then when possible, turn left (almost U-turn), and take the escalator.
On top of the escalator, you continue straight for some 40 yards/meters, and its on your left.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 17, 2010, 01:44:33 PM
Is this one after security? Any idea what it's called or I just ask after security?
The LX lounge is between A-B which is before the train, customs, and security for terminal E (TLV gates)

It took quite a while to get to the lounge in terminal E.  The only good thing about the E lounge was I was able to fill up 2 water bottles for the flight post security.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 17, 2010, 02:17:12 PM
Botto, line

If you need to shower or have alot of time go to the swiss lounge at airside (bet. A-B)

If you dont need to shower, dont have a lot of time or want to relax before the flight without having to go through security again, go to the longe in E

By the way I dont think E lounge gives access to *gold when flying Economy

Dan, I think we should move all lounge comments (incl mine) to a diffrent thread, since people want to read here about Switzerland and dont want to go through 20 posts about airport lounges in Zuerich

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 17, 2010, 02:19:33 PM
Botto, line

If you need to shower or have alot of time go to the swiss lounge at airside (bet. A-B)

If you dont need to shower, dont have a lot of time or want to relax before the flight without having to go through security again, go to the longe in E

By the way I dont think E lounge gives access to *gold when flying Economy

Dan, I think we should move all lounge comments (incl mine) to a diffrent thread, since people want to read here about Switzerland and dont want to go through 20 posts about airport lounges in Zuerich



senators have access, *a gold, Im not sure.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 17, 2010, 02:25:28 PM
*G has access to both lounges regardless of class.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 17, 2010, 02:42:32 PM
Dan, what do you say to this?

Dan, I think we should move all lounge comments (incl mine) to a diffrent thread, since people want to read here about Switzerland and dont want to go through 20 posts about airport lounges in Zuerich
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rm on July 05, 2010, 02:27:17 PM
im gonna have a 6 and half hour stop over in Madrid in Aug. Is there much to see in 6 hours?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2010, 02:30:14 PM
im gonna have a 6 and half hour stop over in Madrid in Aug. Is there much to see in 6 hours?
Why are posting in the Switzerland thread then?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 05, 2010, 04:41:41 PM
He propably thinks Madrid is in Switzerland. Some americans knowledge of geography is.....
But dont worry Tokyo is next to Paris and Brussel is the Capitol of Berlin
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on July 06, 2010, 01:00:57 PM
 this is great to know Madrid,Spain is in Switzerland that means no probleming having to exchange any money into Euros as I have plenty and wont need any Swiss francs if I dont leave Madrid
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rm on July 06, 2010, 11:47:40 PM
I thought there was a post saying uve combined the two topics?!?!?!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moe on July 14, 2010, 01:14:19 PM
Anyone know if there is any "chain" hotel in Geneva that would get me a good deal? I will be there as a stop over for the night of july 28th. The SPG wilson tempts me, but def not gonna pay that much...!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 14, 2010, 06:48:09 PM
just do priceline
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on July 15, 2010, 12:39:00 AM
Hotels don't matter, the only important part of Switzerland is Thommy...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moe on July 22, 2010, 09:17:27 AM
Hotels don't matter, the only important part of Switzerland is Thommy...
lol!
Title: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 01, 2011, 06:27:23 PM
according to an ad in this weeks mishpacha, the edelweiss has closed down - it was sold. does anyone know if another kosher establishment will open in its place?
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: SuperFlyer on January 01, 2011, 06:58:02 PM
No idea.
Funny ad though. Usually people advertise when they open a place...

There is a hotel in crans-montana, where the actual town might be less interesting, but actual ski quality + views beat st moritz   
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 01, 2011, 07:35:28 PM
kosher?
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: SuperFlyer on January 02, 2011, 01:45:12 AM
Very kosher
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: damaxer91 on January 02, 2011, 02:39:32 AM
Very kosher

decent place? How far from Zurich?
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: SuperFlyer on January 02, 2011, 05:27:27 AM
Not a snubby place, from what I've heard its ok.

I estimate 3.5 hours fro zrh, but 1.5 from gva.
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: chuchem on January 02, 2011, 06:35:24 PM
Arosa is also nice. 2 hours by train from Zuerich. Has a kosher hotel, nothing fancy, but its run by a very nice family and the food is decent. Good skiing and sledding, also at night. I can recommend it.
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: hocker on January 02, 2011, 07:32:28 PM
Arosa is also nice. 2 hours by train from Zuerich. Has a kosher hotel, nothing fancy, but its run by a very nice family and the food is decent. Good skiing and sledding, also at night. I can recommend it.
Yes it`s called Hotel Metropol and owned by Mr Marcel Levine and family. They are very nice people to deal with. I was there for 2 weeks a few yrs ago.
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: kivabb on January 02, 2011, 08:29:06 PM
Tachlis, if I'm going to Switzerland for 50 hours to see the Alps, where's my best bet to plant myself for 2 nights? I'll bring my own food and forgo the fancy hotels. Where's the Icefields Parkway of Switzerland?
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: deals on January 02, 2011, 09:04:03 PM
according to an ad in this weeks mishpacha, the edelweiss has closed down - it was sold. does anyone know if another kosher establishment will open in its place?

No
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: deals on January 02, 2011, 09:05:14 PM
Tachlis, if I'm going to Switzerland for 50 hours to see the Alps, where's my best bet to plant myself for 2 nights? I'll bring my own food and forgo the fancy hotels. Where's the Icefields Parkway of Switzerland?

If you flying to zurich I would recommend arosa 
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: kivabb on January 02, 2011, 09:13:39 PM
If you flying to zurich I would recommend arosa 

Whole trip 72 hours. Flying into Zurich (or technically Geneva if availability) and back to NY. Not like it's a free stopover that I'm chappin arein. Where will I get the most WOW? I can technically spend 2 nights in 2 different places if worthwhile. Just want natural beauty.
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: deals on January 02, 2011, 10:15:59 PM
Whole trip 72 hours. Flying into Zurich (or technically Geneva if availability) and back to NY. Not like it's a free stopover that I'm chappin arein. Where will I get the most WOW? I can technically spend 2 nights in 2 different places if worthwhile. Just want natural beauty.

When are u planning on going
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 03, 2011, 01:57:24 AM
zermatt. you have the famous matterhorn, and theres a cable car to the highest viewing platform in europe
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: kivabb on January 03, 2011, 10:09:53 AM
When are u planning on going

Thinking in May. My wife hates the cold and summer too hard to leave kids.
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: kivabb on January 03, 2011, 10:35:11 AM
zermatt. you have the famous matterhorn, and theres a cable car to the highest viewing platform in europe

Thanks. Any hotel recommendations?
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 03, 2011, 12:00:28 PM
i stayed at the allalin since the rooms have a view of the matterhorn, but there have been reports recently of a crane ruining the view
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: chuchem on January 03, 2011, 12:20:04 PM
The kosher hotel in arosa will be closed in may, as its not season.
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: kivabb on January 03, 2011, 12:24:55 PM
The kosher hotel in arosa will be closed in may, as its not season.


When is the season? Does Arosa come close to Zermatt? Not flying all the way there for kosher food. I'll rough it for 2 days if Zermatt is hands down....
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: yare on January 03, 2011, 12:59:30 PM
don't go to arosa for the hotel.  only if you're going for the kosher food/shul/yidden.   
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: kivabb on January 03, 2011, 01:25:01 PM
kosher food/shul/yidden.   

I happen to love all 3. I would even consider it at 40-60 to Zermatt. But if the concensus is that it doesn't come close, then I'll rough it for 2 days once I'm going so far.
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 03, 2011, 01:29:27 PM
are you going with a child?
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: kivabb on January 03, 2011, 02:12:11 PM
are you going with a child?

Possibly a 6 month old. Does that change everything?
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 03, 2011, 02:14:36 PM
well one of the attractions in zermatt is to go to the top of the klein matterhorn to the highest viewing platform in europe. a 6 month old cannot go to such an altitude
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: kivabb on January 03, 2011, 02:25:50 PM
well one of the attractions in zermatt is to go to the top of the klein matterhorn to the highest viewing platform in europe. a 6 month old cannot go to such an altitude

I'm glad you told me now and not when I'm up there. I'll make sure to plan accordingly.

What else did you do there?
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 03, 2011, 02:26:53 PM
they actually wouldnt let the child go.
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 03, 2011, 02:29:04 PM
you might want to consider the "glacier express" to st moritz. supposed to be one of the nicest train rides in the world (scenery wise)
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: kivabb on January 03, 2011, 02:55:25 PM
you might want to consider the "glacier express" to st moritz. supposed to be one of the nicest train rides in the world (scenery wise)

Looks real nice. So fly into Zurich or Geneva, take train to Zermatt, spend 1-2 nights there, take Glacier Express to St. Moritz, spend the night there and take train to Zurich next day?

Make sense? Any reason to go to St Moritz first and train to Zermatt?

Thanks for all your time and info
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 03, 2011, 03:38:21 PM
do realize that its also the slowest "express". about 9 hours if i recall correctly.
also be aware that hotels in both those locations arent cheap.
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: kivabb on January 03, 2011, 03:48:17 PM
Can I find any food in either place or am I on my own?
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 03, 2011, 03:51:42 PM
theres a kosher list of acceptable products that can be bought in the supermarket (such as thomy mayo)
in st moritz there might be bakery that has some acceptible items iirc
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: kivabb on January 03, 2011, 03:57:19 PM
So now that we've come full circle to OP, where are people staying in St. Moritz now that kosher hotel is gone?
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 03, 2011, 04:02:02 PM
to be honest, many didnt stay there, just ate there. i for one had to, since i went with my kid and theres no eiruv,
if you have money to burn, the badrutts palace is supposed to be one of the best hotels in the world
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: SuperFlyer on January 03, 2011, 10:31:25 PM
I understand that he doesn't print his own money.

Glacier express is an excellent idea.

For the not-yiddalach/mevinim, the nicest kanton, also with highest nice weather chance, is wallis/valais.
I would stay in little local hotels.
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: andrew on January 04, 2011, 06:46:09 AM
to be honest, many didnt stay there, just ate there. i for one had to, since i went with my kid and theres no eiruv,
if you have money to burn, the badrutts palace is supposed to be one of the best hotels in the world
if you have money dont bother with badrutts, go straight to hotel kulm
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: chuchem on January 04, 2011, 07:21:13 AM
Zermatt is nice, St. Moritz as well. If you do both and go with the glacier express you will have done everything the right way. I have never heard of a mountain, that a baby cant go on. I even called them up and they have no problem with a baby going up.
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 04, 2011, 08:57:14 AM
if you have money dont bother with badrutts, go straight to hotel kulm
reviews are not nearly as good as the bp
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 04, 2011, 09:02:25 AM
Zermatt is nice, St. Moritz as well. If you do both and go with the glacier express you will have done everything the right way. I have never heard of a mountain, that a baby cant go on. I even called them up and they have no problem with a baby going up.

with all due respect, i was there and they told me my kid cannot go to the MATTERHORN GLACIER PARADISE .  not only that they wouldnt let us go to the final stop on the GORNERGRAT . they would only sell us tickets to go half the way up.
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: chuchem on January 04, 2011, 09:52:03 AM
With all due respect back, i called them and asked. Maybe you got a shmok, that was selling u tickets or ur kids didnt behave ;-). I have taken my kids, some of them 3-4 month up alot of mountains. It was never a. problem. It just makes no sense
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 04, 2011, 02:42:00 PM
i emailed the question, "i was wondering if there was any age restriction for the Matterhorn glacier paradise. for example, could a 6 month old go up?"
and the reply,
Good day,
Thank you very much for your e-mail and your interest in our car-free resort at the foot of the Matterhorn.
The child should be prior than three to go up so high.
Please do not hesitate to contact us for further information. We hope to welcome you soon in Zermatt.
Yours sincerely,
Denis Maccagno

i assume by prior, he meant older
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: chuchem on January 04, 2011, 04:56:33 PM
I guess we dont know gave the right information. By the way Zermatt is nice without that ride as well!
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 04, 2011, 05:51:08 PM
actually, we do know because someone here actually experienced it
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: SuperFlyer on January 04, 2011, 06:12:39 PM
Above 2000m is definitely not advisable for very young infants.

Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 04, 2011, 06:35:58 PM
Above 2000m is definitely not advisable for very young infants.


its called altitude sickness. and this goes to  3,883  meters
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: deals on January 04, 2011, 09:48:00 PM
its called altitude sickness. and this goes to  3,883  meters

+1
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: deals on January 04, 2011, 09:49:12 PM
Just take in mind that swiss weather is not always the best so if u planning on going just for a few days...
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: SuperFlyer on January 05, 2011, 01:46:11 AM
...Grease whoever is in charge of the weather...
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 05, 2011, 03:27:17 AM
Just take in mind that swiss weather is not always the best so if u planning on going just for a few days...

you can say that again. my trip to switzerland was a huge clusterpoop. all that planning wont help you nothing if the weather wont cooperate
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: kivabb on January 05, 2011, 09:46:31 AM
you can say that again. my trip to switzerland was a huge clusterpoop. all that planning wont help you nothing if the weather wont cooperate

Are my prospects any better in May?
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: moish on January 05, 2011, 09:51:22 AM
my experience was end of march
Title: Re: edelweiss st moritz
Post by: SuperFlyer on January 06, 2011, 06:10:38 AM
Wallis/Valais has a much higher probability for nice weather.

Veday lechakime...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: JFEADV on January 17, 2011, 05:52:01 PM
if i am flying jfk-frankfurt-zrh via luftansa on 1st & connection to zrh & leaving 2 days later to london business via swiss because there r only 2 classes of service can i get into 1st class lounge. Also whch lounge should i go to
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on January 17, 2011, 06:00:54 PM
if i am flying jfk-frankfurt-zrh via luftansa on 1st & connection to zrh is bussiness because there r only 2 classes of service can i get into 1st class lounge. Also whch lounge should i go to.
You can access the First Class Terminal which seems to be the highlight of flying LH F.

You have to leave the main airport terminal to get there but they'll drive you (usually in a Porsche or Mercedes) to your next flight.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on January 17, 2011, 06:02:32 PM
if i am flying jfk-frankfurt-zrh via luftansa on 1st & connection to zrh & leaving 2 days later to london business via swiss because there r only 2 classes of service can i get into 1st class lounge. Also whch lounge should i go to
I doubt you'll get into the First Class lounge with BP's from two days before but you can try...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 17, 2011, 09:17:33 PM
I doubt you'll get into the First Class lounge with BP's from two days before but you can try...
I was able at a few different LH and LX lounges while on the same ticket/trip but it's a huge YMMV.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on January 17, 2011, 09:32:12 PM
I was able at a few different LH and LX lounges while on the same ticket/trip but it's a huge YMMV.
Maybe they just felt bad when you told them that you're on your 3rd connection and are further from your destination then when you started...;)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 17, 2011, 09:34:40 PM
Maybe they just felt bad when you told them that you're on your 3rd connection and are further from your destination then when you started...;)
Entirely possible :D
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: JFEADV on January 18, 2011, 09:51:45 AM
WHICH IS MICER THE FIRST CLASS LOUNGE OR TERMINAL
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 18, 2011, 09:59:16 AM
WHICH IS MICER THE FIRST CLASS LOUNGE OR TERMINAL
There is no FIRST CLASS LOUNGE OR TERMINAL in ZRH, so I'll assume you mean FRA.

Typically United RCC's are known for rodents:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileage-plus/97454-mouse-rcc-ord-concourse-b-2.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileage-plus/435033-jfk-rcc-crawling.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileage-plus/516261-i-found-mouse-rcc.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileage-plus/690957-mice-ord-terminal-f-rcc.html

I'd be surprised if the Germans didn't exterminate their mice with haste.

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on January 18, 2011, 11:01:19 AM
Dan, there is a First class lounge in ZRH incl. limo transfer to the plane. As far as I remember you were there?!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on January 18, 2011, 11:20:52 AM
Dan, there is a First class loungein ZRH incl. limo transfer to the plane. As far as I remember you were there?!
But no First Class Terminal, like in FRA.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on January 18, 2011, 11:23:03 AM
Dan wrote terminal or lounge!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 18, 2011, 11:39:32 AM
Dan wrote terminal or lounge!

I was just copy/pasting what he wrote in caps without really reading it :)
All in good fun.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on January 19, 2011, 01:10:37 PM
I was just copy/pasting what he wrote in caps without really reading it :)
All in good fun.

Serves him right for SCREAMING :D
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Aben on February 06, 2011, 02:06:54 PM
I possibly have a stopover in Zurich after pesach from 11 AM till about 10 PM was wondering what would be the best thing to do.
We have 2 children a 2 1/2 and a 1 year old
Is it worth it to stopover?
What is there to do in the area?
Is it hard to get around in a double stroller?
I was told that it is worth it to go to Pillotiz(sp?) is it?

My other option is a stopover in Brussels from 7 AM till 7 PM which makes more sense?

Will I have lounge access with my Amex Platinum to either one?
                                                                                                                                 
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2011, 02:36:26 PM
We enjoyed Lucerne, very picturesque and serene.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on February 06, 2011, 03:04:14 PM
I possibly have a stopover in Zurich after pesach from 11 AM till about 10 PM was wondering what would be the best thing to do.
We have 2 children a 2 1/2 and a 1 year old
Is it worth it to stopover?
What is there to do in the area?
Is it hard to get around in a double stroller?
I was told that it is worth it to go to Pillotiz(sp?) is it?
                                                                                                                               
you mean the pilatus mountain which is in Lucerne as Dan quoted too to be very nice, its a one hour train ride to Lucerne and than a 15 minute bus ride to Mount Pilatus, which is all easily accessible with double carriage.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Aben on February 06, 2011, 03:13:03 PM
Approximately how much does the train and bus cost to Lucerne and then Mt. Pilatus.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2011, 03:36:41 PM
Approximately how much does the train and bus cost to Lucerne and then Mt. Pilatus.
Chuchem knows his stuff in this regard and totally hooked us up while we were in ZRH.

We went to Lucerne and there's a info booth where they show you a live view from on top of Pilatus.  It was totally clouded over so we took a very picturesque boat-ride instead and just walked around Lucerne and its bridges, and along the old city walls, etc.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Aben on February 06, 2011, 03:43:56 PM
Chuchem knows his stuff in this regard and totally hooked us up while we were in ZRH.

We went to Lucerne and there's a info booth where they show you a live view from on top of Pilatus.  It was totally clouded over so we took a very picturesque boat-ride instead and just walked around Lucerne and its bridges, and along the old city walls, etc.
Do you think it will be worth it with possibly 2 kvetche kids that just got off a flight from NY?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2011, 03:51:30 PM
Do you think it will be worth it with possibly 2 kvetche kids that just got off a flight from NY?
Depends on the kids I guess...
We arrived after flying LX F and sleeping on the plane so that may have been the reason it was so enjoyable.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Aben on February 06, 2011, 03:56:15 PM
Would I have lounge access to shower and change with my Amex Platinum if the flight is operated by Swiss?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2011, 03:59:05 PM
Would I have lounge access to shower and change with my Amex Platinum if the flight is operated by Swiss?
Nope.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 06, 2011, 04:19:02 PM
ive found that its only worthwhile to stopover from tlv-usa but from usa-tlv not really since it usually entails flying through the night
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: dealer on February 06, 2011, 05:54:52 PM
I possibly have a stopover in Zurich after pesach from 11 AM till about 10 PM was wondering what would be the best thing to do.
We have 2 children a 2 1/2 and a 1 year old
Is it worth it to stopover?
What is there to do in the area?
Is it hard to get around in a double stroller?
I was told that it is worth it to go to Pillotiz(sp?) is it?

My other option is a stopover in Brussels from 7 AM till 7 PM which makes more sense?

Will I have lounge access with my Amex Platinum to either one?
                                                                                                                                 
i would go to bru , you could hang out with sflyer all day
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on February 06, 2011, 06:37:40 PM
Hi

Brussel is not a nice city. Nothing really to see. If you pass through Europe Switzerland will be your better choice. My kids sleep at night on the plane, if yours do as well they should be fine the next day in a stroller. You probably will have it easier then connecting right away, as they will be up all day and sleep again on your 11 PM flight to TLV
Trains are very easy to get around and the Pilatus will a stroller will be fine. Kids are free, your ticket to Lucerne incl. going up the Pilatus will be about 100 USD p.p roundtrip. Lucerne is a nice city, so if your kids are "quetsch" or the weather is not great, you can take a boatride on the lake or just stroll around. Decide that day, but try to aim for Pilatus
 On the way back you can stop in Zuerich for supper in the kosher restaurant. Nothing special, but its nice to have a good meal after traveling.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on February 06, 2011, 06:43:11 PM
Hi

Brussel is not a nice city. Nothing really to see. If you pass through Europe Switzerland will be your better choice. My kids sleep at night on the plane, if yours do as well they should be fine the next day in a stroller. You probably will have it easier then connecting right away, as they will be up all day and sleep again on your 11 PM flight to TLV
Trains are very easy to get around and the Pilatus will a stroller will be fine. Kids are free, your ticket to Lucerne incl. going up the Pilatus will be about 100 USD p.p roundtrip. Lucerne is a nice city, so if your kids are "quetsch" or the weather is not great, you can take a boatride on the lake or just stroll around. Decide that day, but try to aim for Pilatus
 On the way back you can stop in Zuerich for supper in the kosher restaurant. Nothing special, but its nice to have a good meal after traveling.

wow this is an expensive train.

try to get invited by chuchem.

ask for the local specialty, thomy.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: dealer on February 06, 2011, 06:47:39 PM
Hi

Brussel is not a nice city. Nothing really to see. If you pass through Europe Switzerland will be your better choice. My kids sleep at night on the plane, if yours do as well they should be fine the next day in a stroller. You probably will have it easier then connecting right away, as they will be up all day and sleep again on your 11 PM flight to TLV
Trains are very easy to get around and the Pilatus will a stroller will be fine. Kids are free, your ticket to Lucerne incl. going up the Pilatus will be about 100 USD p.p roundtrip. Lucerne is a nice city, so if your kids are "quetsch" or the weather is not great, you can take a boatride on the lake or just stroll around. Decide that day, but try to aim for Pilatus
 On the way back you can stop in Zuerich for supper in the kosher restaurant. Nothing special, but its nice to have a good meal after traveling.
can we pm you if we need more specific info?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on February 06, 2011, 07:18:50 PM
Hi
I like to answer in public, as the next guy will also profit from the answers. I dont want to answer the same question to every guy via PM again and again. Unless its a secret just post it here. I will answer asap
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on February 06, 2011, 07:22:11 PM
wow this is an expensive train.

try to get invited by chuchem.

ask for the local specialty, thomy.


http://www.pilatus.ch/content-n147-sE.html

Here is the pricelist for the ride up the mountain. From Zuerich airport you take a train to Lucerne and then a bus to the Station (thats in Kriens)

www.sbb.ch is the website of the swiss railways

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on February 07, 2011, 11:38:39 AM
Hi
I like to answer in public, as the next guy will also profit from the answers. I dont want to answer the same question to every guy via PM again and again. Unless its a secret just post it here. I will answer asap

+1

Why PM when the rest of the DDF community will benefit as well.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2011, 11:43:45 AM
Here's the webcam they showed us: http://www.pilatus.ch/webcam/default-n102-sE.html
It was completely clouded over when we were there last May.  You can see the lakes that we took a boat in (I'm assuming those are them?) from the webcam.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Aben on February 07, 2011, 12:56:34 PM

http://www.pilatus.ch/content-n147-sE.html

Here is the pricelist for the ride up the mountain. From Zuerich airport you take a train to Lucerne and then a bus to the Station (thats in Kriens)

www.sbb.ch is the website of the swiss railways
I see different types of fairs Regular, Golden, Silver whats the difference. Are they round trips? and which one would be best?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on February 07, 2011, 02:05:12 PM
I see different types of fairs Regular, Golden, Silver whats the difference. Are they round trips? and which one would be best?
You only have to read and make some effort yourself!! I know asking is easier
One has a boatride incl., one has some type of trainride incl. before....
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Aben on February 07, 2011, 04:16:45 PM
You only have to read and make some effort yourself!! I know asking is easier
One has a boatride incl., one has some type of trainride incl. before....
I did see that each comes with something else, but I was wondering as to which one would be my best option especially with 2 kids.
What would be the estimate cost from leaving the airport to Luzern with and w/o Pilotus?
Which station do I need from the airport?
Dan mentioned that u hooked him up with $35 day passes how can I get that?

Thanks



Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on February 07, 2011, 04:51:39 PM
U cant get them and I cant get them for everyone, to much work. Sorry
Cost for traintickets to Lucerne is www.sbb.ch Zuerich airport-Lucerne main sation
With the timeframe you have only take the train to Lucerne and go to pilatus. If you have time you can still do a boatride.
I cant give you a best option with kids, as it depends how they are that day.
 
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Aben on February 08, 2011, 02:03:43 AM
U cant get them and I cant get them for everyone, to much work. Sorry
Cost for traintickets to Lucerne is www.sbb.ch Zuerich airport-Lucerne main sation
With the timeframe you have only take the train to Lucerne and go to pilatus. If you have time you can still do a boatride.
I cant give you a best option with kids, as it depends how they are that day.
 
I checked the website just confirming does it make sense that from the airport to lucerne a round trip p/p is 54 CHF, I am not able to see my dates yet, I think it is to far in advance but I checked a random date and it came out to be 54 CHF would that be or around the price in May?
I was told that it would be around $100 is that incl. to Pilotus?
Are the fairs the same by the train station as on their website? Is it necessary to book in advance?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on February 08, 2011, 07:53:52 AM
Train 54 plus the trip up to Pilatus, comes to a little more then 100 Dollars
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on February 08, 2011, 07:54:08 AM
No need to book in advance
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Aben on February 08, 2011, 11:25:09 AM
Thanks for all of your help Chuchem It is really appreciated.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yungerman on February 20, 2011, 09:44:12 PM
Switzerland Trip Notes:

After a rejuvenating Shabbos experience in Brunoy, we ordered a taxi to take us to the Gare de L'Est station for our 6:30AM train to Lucerne. As a side note, I really commend the publishers of Dvar Malchus for facilitating the means for learning during travel. I was able to stay on track with Chitas and Rambam shiurim(most days) thanks to Dvar Malchus. I was a bit concerned about making the train thinking that customs would tarry us. Boruch Hashem there wasn't any customs and we were able to board the train soon after arriving to the station. A number of years ago when I learned in Brunoy, I took advantage of a mid-winter break to visit London. The customs and security was very time consuming for the Paris-London segment, so I thought the same would be here.

We made sure to pack enough long-lasting milk cartons(that don't require refrigeration prior to opening) for our 5-day stay in Switzerland. A number of yogurts as well were brought along. We bought our rail tickets through raileurope.com which had discounts for youth(until 26). To promote a comfortable trip for ourselves and our 2 kids we got 1st class(not so much more expensive than 2nd). The cabin was significantly roomier and emptier. Our itinerary had an 8-minute connection in Basel. When I was planning the trip, this segment worried me the most because I wasn't able to figure out the platform number for our connecting train until we got off at Basel. BH, we were able to make it 2-3 minutes before departure.

Unfortunately, due to the time pressure we got on a packed 2nd class cabin. It took several trips to transport our belongings all the way to 1st class. Being that this train was inter-Swiss(and opposed to inter-Europe) there wasn't a considerable distinction between 1st and 2nd class. However, I wanted my money's worth.

After finally arriving in Lucerne, I asked my wife to wait as I took the escalator downstairs to the underground shopping center to purchase a SIM card. Surprisingly enough, Swiss law requires every SIM card registree to provide a passport. After obtaining my SIM card we headed on to the near bus station to take us to our hotel. Unfortunately, Bank of America doesn't have a Swiss ATM partner(unlike most of Europe, including our previously toured France-BNP Paribas). We used credit cards most of the time. Every bus station has a kiosk in which tickets can be purchased. If only Amex Platinum could have waived the foreign transaction fee earlier.........

Our hotel(Hotel Balm in Meggen) was a 12 minute(exactly; the Swiss are very precise and efficient) ride from the city center(Bahnhof). Our stop(Balm) was right at the hotel; a Mechaye! Our check-in process was quite smooth and we were soon to be ushered into our room. When I entered into the room I was jaw-dropped speechless. Hands down the finest 3-star hotel I've ever encountered. Besides for all the neat Swiss furnishing details, we were able to get a room that easily fitted two cribs. If half the price was for the view, it would have been so worth it! From our full sized window we would able to see the lake and mountains(with their beautiful haze effect on the bottom). Anyways, I could go on for another page describing the room. I'll exercise restrain though. Just a small detail; the hotel had free WIFI through the building.

Throughout our stay in Lucerne the sky was clear. We took a short 2-hour steam-boat cruise on the lake and were spellbound by the views. Picturesque Switzerland has certainly imbued within us a profound appreciation for Hashem's constant recreation of His beautiful world. Lake Lucerne is like no other lake I've seen. During the cruise a white bird started to follow us at the same pace as the boat. We were facing it and were able to take pictures. I'll post some IYH. I must state that a cruise on lake Lucerne is a must for anyone visiting this charming city.

The next day we visited the Swiss Museum of Transport. IMHO it far surpasses any science/technology museum in the states(maybe not the Smithsonian). The place is packed with exceedingly interesting exhibitions which we found to be very interactive as well. It covers all modes of transport; rail, automobile, air, space, etc. I volunteered to seat myself in a jet simulator which was able to take me upside down. Very recommended for the kids(the museum, not the simulator). After the museum we took a walk next to the river to enjoy the scenery.

On a Wednesday morning we took leave of Lucerne and embarked on a train to Zurich. The Marriott hotel was a 10 minute walk from the main train station. Priceline accepted our bid of $115 dollars for a $400-500 room. Frankly, I wasn't too much impressed with the room as much as I was with the lobby and hallways. I was appalled at the mini-bar pricing. A bottle of water was 8 swiss francs! More shocking was the laundry service. To wash 1 shirt and press it equaled 18.50 francs! Aside from necessary food items and transport, we didn't purchase any souvenirs due to the over-inflated cost of almost anything in Switzerland. Not even a Swiss made watch. We only 'window' shopped.

After begging my wife for permission to open up a Swiss bank account, she finally caved in. I walked into a Credit Suisse bank hoping to deposit $20 and then brag to all my friends about my Swiss bank account. My hopes were shattered when the lady behind the counter nonchalantly notified us of the 500k minimum deposit requirement. Maybe next time.

Friday we had an early morning flight to Venice. We woke up early and took the direct train to the airport. Check in was quick with Swiss-Air and security a breeze with the European leniences(shoes stay on etc.).

P.S. Unlike France, Switzerland provided elevators in all of its public transport. For a family travelling with young infants in a stroller, this was prudent.

Stay tuned for the Italy trip notes!



 











 
 
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on February 21, 2011, 01:24:11 AM
In the Migros shop (you have them everywhere besides small villages, you can buy sim cards, while getting around adding your name;

If you would have succeeded in opening a bank account, there would be heavy fees attached + for not sending your mail to the usa, ie keeping them for you, there is an additional charge.

Very nice and open report, thanks.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MLM on February 21, 2011, 03:50:00 PM
I was amazed that the luggage carts can be pushed up and down escalators it was such a breeze
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yungerman on February 21, 2011, 06:42:33 PM
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4971/img2051n.jpg)
The view from our Lucerne hotel room
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yungerman on February 21, 2011, 06:49:08 PM
These are not postcards. We actually took these wonderful pictures of Lake Lucerne. What a wonderful world Hashem creates!

(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3344/img2068so.jpg)

(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3255/img2087ba.jpg)

(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/61/img2092o.jpg)

(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4721/img2093n.jpg)

(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/1570/img2095x.jpg)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yungerman on February 21, 2011, 06:59:28 PM
Swiss Transport Museum

(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5969/img2135e.jpg)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 21, 2011, 08:22:09 PM
Awesome pics! I also loved Lucerne!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on February 21, 2011, 10:55:02 PM
These are not postcards. We actually took these wonderful pictures of Lake Lucerne. What a wonderful world Hashem creates!

Beautiful!

Amazing that you managed to take such good pics with an SD1000 point-and-shoot...

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Avid Reader on February 22, 2011, 12:51:08 AM
Nice report and beautiful pics!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: jack12 on May 04, 2011, 12:28:50 AM
In ZRH, if I'm flying swiss-air, is there any lounges that I can get into with my amex platinum cc?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 04, 2011, 03:00:02 AM
In ZRH, if I'm flying swiss-air, is there any lounges that I can get into with my amex platinum cc?
Tons of options with priority pass via amex plat.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 04, 2011, 03:44:47 AM
Tons of options with priority pass via amex plat.
But which ones serve Thommy? ;)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: jack12 on May 04, 2011, 08:07:10 AM
Tons of options with priority pass via amex plat.

How do I decide which one to go to? Any that have kosher food? Any recommendations?
Title: The Alps?
Post by: djnimon on May 18, 2011, 08:27:00 PM
Anyone been to the Alps? Is it a nice trip in the summer?

Got any suggestions for airports to fly into? Any and all info would be great because I know nothing about this topic. Thanks!
Title: Re: The Alps?
Post by: moish on May 18, 2011, 08:29:26 PM
sure
Title: Re: The Alps?
Post by: henche on May 18, 2011, 08:45:27 PM
I wanna go.
Title: Re: The Alps?
Post by: yissie on May 18, 2011, 10:24:36 PM
The Alps are Gorgeous in the Summer, The Alps is a mountain range that extends in Switzerland, Italy and France, Austria, Germany.

I recommend Switzerland. For overall beauty.  Be advised that Switzerland Gets a lot of rain in the summer so leave yourself time for rainouts.   Flying into Zurich is a good option about an hour and a half train to Interlaken which is the heart of the Bernese Oberland Heart of Swiss Alps.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 23, 2011, 03:03:23 PM
@chuchem
If I can rent a car for 132 CHF and I staying at the PH (which has free parking)-how would this compare to taking trains from ZRH-Zurich-Lucerne-ZRH for 2 people? How much more am I paying? Do you think it's worth it.
Thanks for your help
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 23, 2011, 03:36:50 PM
@chuchem
If I can rent a car for 132 CHF and I staying at the PH (which has free parking)-how would this compare to taking trains from ZRH-Zurich-Lucerne-ZRH for 2 people? How much more am I paying? Do you think it's worth it.
Thanks for your help
Take the train IMHO.
Don't forget to factor in gas and parking!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on May 23, 2011, 03:49:48 PM
Take the train IMHO.
Don't forget to factor in gas and parking!
+1 Very efficient, fast and convenient. If they were the same price I'd probably stick with public transportation in Switzerland
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 23, 2011, 07:52:40 PM
this is true even if i will have luggage? you wrote before that lx will check it thru with on a 2
3 hour stopover. is this still true? what would i do with my luggage
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 24, 2011, 02:29:30 PM
Also what's the best place to daven Shacharis from the Park Hyatt. A quick godaven.com search revealed Israelitische Religionsgesellschaft Zuerich which has Shacaharis at 6:15 and 7. Would this be the best option?
Thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on May 24, 2011, 08:09:21 PM
I am not in switzerland at the moment, so not online alot.
To answer some questions:
Irg is the schul closest to the ph. About 10 min walk
Take a train to lucerne, its much more relaxing, then driving on roads you dont know. If its nice weather, go up the pilatus,its not cheap, but the view is unreal.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 25, 2011, 12:10:36 AM
I am not in switzerland at the moment, so not online alot.
To answer some questions:
Irg is the schul closest to the ph. About 10 min walk
Take a train to lucerne, its much more relaxing, then driving on roads you dont know. If its nice weather, go up the pilatus,its not cheap, but the view is unreal.
+1
Also if you go to the info center in the train station they will show you a live view from on pilatus so you can see if its worthwile to do that or to just stick with riding the boats and walking on the bridges and on top of old city walls.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: world2see on June 06, 2011, 09:15:08 AM
my wife and i are planning on stopping in europe somewhere on the way into newyork from israel,we have 2 "babys"2 year old and newborn(months) the only availability in business into new york was thru zurich.leaving tav at 530 am and have the option of continuing to ny any day for the rest of the week. assuming we leave monday morning from tlv,how many days should we spend in zurich? where to stay? what is doable with 2 kids? any other stopover recommendations would be appreciated,(although we have seen a large part of europe already.) we are leaving the week beginning july 24th. thanks for all the help!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 06, 2011, 09:29:09 AM
my wife and i are planning on stopping in europe somewhere on the way into newyork from israel,we have 2 "babys"2 year old and newborn(months) the only availability in business into new york was thru zurich.leaving tav at 530 am and have the option of continuing to ny any day for the rest of the week. assuming we leave monday morning from tlv,how many days should we spend in zurich? where to stay? what is doable with 2 kids? any other stopover recommendations would be appreciated,(although we have seen a large part of europe already.) we are leaving the week beginning july 24th. thanks for all the help!!!!!!!!!

The main attraction is Switzerland is Chuchem. Some would argue that its the alps but I still think its Chuchem
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 06, 2011, 10:08:51 AM
Swiss Business is great. 
We spent 22 hours in Switzerland and had a blast, I'm sure we could've spent more time.  The Park Hyatt there is an excellent location and is very nice if you have Hyatt points/nights.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 06, 2011, 10:38:21 AM
Could anyone advise me on this? I've been reading up on speeding tickets in Zurich and I'm getting a little nervous. I was there in January '09 and got flashed on the way to the airport. I don't have any details of the offence (ticket no. etc.), but I want to pay it now or sort it out somehow. What is the best way to go about it?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: world2see on June 06, 2011, 04:55:26 PM
The main attraction is Switzerland is Chuchem. Some would argue that its the alps but I still think its Chuchem
always knew i could count on you ;D
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 07, 2011, 01:31:34 AM
Yes, i am the main attraction.
People come to switzerland for 3 weeks, so there is no time limit. With 2 small kids you will not be able to do as much in one day, so its really up to you. You can stay in zuerich and do daytrips or stay in the mountains. I think st. Moritz is the nicest place. A cheap (dollar is very low, so nothing is really cheap) clean hotel is hotel sonne. Search for their website. Only place with minjan and kosher hotel is arosa

Public transportation is easy and no problem with a stroller.
At the end it really depends on your budget and time.
You can see alot in 2 days, but can also easy spend a week.


Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 07, 2011, 01:36:48 AM
@chaim

You will have to remember what canton (like state) it was from. If not maybe the embassy can help, as your name will be blacklisted !
If you plan on going to switzerland in the future, i would try to pay or they will stop you the next time at the airport and it will not be fun.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: world2see on June 07, 2011, 02:55:12 AM
Yes, i am the main attraction.
People come to switzerland for 3 weeks, so there is no time limit. With 2 small kids you will not be able to do as much in one day, so its really up to you. You can stay in zuerich and do daytrips or stay in the mountains. I think st. Moritz is the nicest place. A cheap (dollar is very low, so nothing is really cheap) clean hotel is hotel sonne. Search for their website. Only place with minjan and kosher hotel is arosa

Public transportation is easy and no problem with a stroller.
At the end it really depends on your budget and time.
You can see alot in 2 days, but can also easy spend a week.
thanks so much!!!! where would you recommend basing ourselves and from there do daytrips?st moritz? what to do ? thanks again,appreciate the help!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: world2see on June 07, 2011, 02:56:02 AM
how far is st. moritz from zurich?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 07, 2011, 03:20:44 AM
I dont mind answering all questions, but you can try a simple search yourself. 2,5 hours by car and 3,5 hours by train

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 07, 2011, 05:50:30 AM
I dont mind answering all questions, but you can try a simple search yourself. 2,5 hours by car and 3,5 hours by train

Hmmm.... I know that I once thought of telling that to someone :).

BTW, Any idea of CO allows an open-jaw and a stopover?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: world2see on June 07, 2011, 07:19:12 AM
thanks!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on June 09, 2011, 11:33:11 AM
Hmmm.... I know that I once thought of telling that to someone :).

BTW, Any idea of CO allows an open-jaw and a stopover?
CO does allow an open-jaw and a stopover.
However, officially, the open-jaw must be at the origin or destination. Meaning you can do EWR-TLV(destination)-ZRH(stop)-LAX or JFK-FRA-TLV(destination)IST-JFK (stops under 24 hours don't count) but they will not allow EWR-TLV(destination)-ZRH(stop)LHR-EWR.
You can always try and get them to manually price it but it will be very hard if not impossible IME (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5659.msg62296#msg62296)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on June 20, 2011, 04:53:07 AM
looking for a final psak having read this entire thread from beginning to end.

A) is 3 days in ZRH a decent amount of time?

B) where should I spend those three days (i don't want a kosher hotel)

dates are august 28-31

thanks and hats off to chuchem!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 20, 2011, 05:52:46 AM
3 days is nice, if its 3 full days, you can make a few nice day trips.
If you have points or free nights stay at sheraton, hyatt of four points. If not, search for a cheap hotel.( No such thing as cheap in switzerland)

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on June 20, 2011, 11:57:53 AM
thanks! what 3 day trips would you reccomend?

what hotel is closest to the local jewish community?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on June 20, 2011, 12:00:13 PM
thanks! what 3 day trips would you reccomend?

what hotel is closest to the local jewish community?
Chuchem's B&B. "We serve Thommy!".
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on June 20, 2011, 12:10:24 PM
Chuchem's B&B. "We serve Thommy!".


what does he charge...does he take C & P? will he accept my dansdeals elite status LOL
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on June 20, 2011, 12:32:33 PM
is $330 a good deal for car for 4 days out of zurich airport?

its an automatic...manual is $80 cheaper but as a bloody american, i just don't so stick :)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2011, 12:34:07 PM
is $330 a good deal for car for 4 days out of zurich airport?

its an automatic...manual is $80 cheaper but as a bloody american, i just don't so stick :)
Are you sure you want a car?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on June 20, 2011, 12:41:34 PM
if i'll be going to lucerne it'll probably be worth it especially if doing 3 day trips out of zurich itself

is it not worth it?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 20, 2011, 02:20:30 PM
The train is nice for one day, but if you are here for a few days its for sure better to have a car. You will eant to go out at night to the restaurant, shachris, minche... Its just nice, not to have to rely on public transportation for 3 days.
I normally get the best rates at www.sixt.co.il   but you can check regular companies as well

There is a four points hotel close to chabad and a restaurant.... See if you can get that for decent price or cash and points. Its very central, so you will have a easy way getting around from there with a car
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on June 20, 2011, 03:17:44 PM
The train is nice for one day, but if you are here for a few days its for sure better to have a car. You will eant to go out at night to the restaurant, shachris, minche... Its just nice, not to have to rely on public transportation for 3 days.
I normally get the best rates at www.sixt.co.il   but you can check regular companies as well

There is a four points hotel close to chabad and a restaurant.... See if you can get that for decent price or cash and points. Its very central, so you will have a easy way getting around from there with a car

thx, but the hotel was no c/p and high priced...i will check the rates w/ 6th though...what district is the community in?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 24, 2011, 02:25:13 PM
I am considering a long weekend in Switzerland arriving Thursday morning leaving to Paris on Monday morning at the end of July. I know there is only one Kosher hotel in Arosa where I would consider spending shabbos but is that the place to be the one Shabbos we will be in Switzerland? Is shabbos at the Park Hyatt in Zurich an option and is it in walking distance to shuls? Are there any restaurants or chabad houses offering shabbos meals....

From reading this post and doing some research it seems like the interesting places besides Zurich are Luzern, Zermatt, Interlaken, St. Moritz and Lugano. I know it is impossible to be everywhere in the short time we are there especially because of Shabbos. However, I would love it if anyone can give me some input on how to make the most of my time and itinerary advice.

Also, am I better of renting a car or taking trains in order to make the most of our trip? (I know an automatic car is a fortune but I hear the trains are expensive too)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 24, 2011, 02:35:47 PM
PH Zurich is just 1 mile from Chabad of Zurich. (http://local.google.com/maps?saddr=R%C3%BCdigerstr.+10,+8027+Zurich,&daddr=Beethoven-Strasse+21+Zurich,+Switzerland+8002&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sll=47.36345,8.529165&sspn=0.009069,0.026157&geocode=Fa6q0gIdyAiCACmpbQeg8QmQRzHy9tI9K2KrtQ%3BFTbB0gIdSUGCACmpp3Nl_wmQRzHOh7I3s_DDoQ&mra=luc&dirflg=w&doflg=ptm&z=16)

From Chabad's site: http://www.chabadswitzerland.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/274103/jewish/Jewish-Tourist-Info-for-Zurich.htm

"1. There are no kosher hotels in Zurich!

2. Zurich does NOT have an Eiruv

3. There is NO kosher restaurant open for Shabbat meals!

4. Chabad does not have any sleeping accomodations in it's facilities. Following you will find a list of Hotels in the area. We would be however very happy to help organise Shabbat meals with local families for tourist and guest if possible. Please call us."
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 25, 2011, 02:08:06 PM
I will bli neder reply to questions when back from MLE in 10 days

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 26, 2011, 04:22:11 PM
I'm going to be in Zurich for 3 days in the summer with two friends- Can anyone recommend where we should go what we should do and HOW we should get there?
We don't have that much time!! Any ideas would be great!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on July 05, 2011, 02:27:57 PM
Does anyone know of any websites or ways to rent a car in Zurich for less than $200 a day ???
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on July 05, 2011, 02:29:46 PM
Does anyone know of any websites or ways to rent a car in Zurich for less than $200 a day ???
u should specify that u want an automatic transmission
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on July 05, 2011, 05:06:45 PM
Yup, its definitely gotta be automatic!!!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 05, 2011, 05:17:48 PM
i recommend learning how to drive stick, its a great skill to have especially if you travel a lot
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2011, 05:20:10 PM
i recommend learning how to drive stick, its a great skill to have especially if you travel a lot
I'd love to learn, anyone wanna teach me?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 05, 2011, 05:22:54 PM
take a few lessons. itll pay off big time in the long run.
and then practice
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 02, 2011, 02:43:37 AM
As always thanks in advance for your help Chuchem.
Flight arriving at 9:30 PM. Will there be anywhere open to get dinner? Can I have it delivered to the hotel? What restaurant would you recommend?
The Park Hyatt wouldn't provide kosher breakfast, but they did give me 2,500 points for my troubles. Is there anywhere to get breakfast? How early do places open?
I have an 8:20 PM flight. What time would you say I need to leave Lucerne by? Anywhere convenient to get dinner on the way to the airport. How long do I need in Lucerne if I want to do the boat ride and the gondola (and as such what time do I need to leave Zurich to Lucerne)?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on August 07, 2011, 04:12:02 AM
for those who are looking for cars check out argus car rentals they are usually cheapest.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on August 08, 2011, 09:39:26 AM
I'm a big foodie and would love to know if their are any products or items worth tasting while I visit Switzerland next week!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 08, 2011, 10:32:05 AM
fondue?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mguy on August 10, 2011, 05:02:48 PM
I'm headed to St Moritz next week...

I understand the closest kosher food would be in Davos. The following link describes a kosher hotel and takeout: www.levinarosa.com (open during Aug 2011). Is there anything else? Perhaps a grocery where one can get kosher meats, etc?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on August 10, 2011, 05:52:09 PM
Loeffler bakery in St Moritz has some kosher products and kosher bread every day. They also sell some kosher meat.  There is a minjan in "Alot" apartment building every day. Apartment 304. Shachris 08:00, minche 20:30 followed by mariv. You can order until wednesday evening take out food for shabbes from a Oineg Shabbes in Zuerich, he delivers friday morning. There is a kosher hotel in maloja, run by israeli group tour plus, you can go there for meals and pay for them. So its not that bad
If you are coming from the U.S.A just be ready for your Dollar being valued at 0.73 Franks, everything will be very expensive for you

Regards from St. Moritz
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mguy on August 11, 2011, 05:14:23 PM
chuchem - Thank you very much for the info. This is extremely helpful!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: deals on August 11, 2011, 06:34:37 PM

If you are coming from the U.S.A just be ready for your Dollar being valued at 0.73 Franks, everything will be very expensive for you

Regards from St. Moritz

and the swiss prices
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on August 11, 2011, 06:51:16 PM
I'd love to learn, anyone wanna teach me?

Yeah, on a rented car, open spot, with some bartos as buffers on the side.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on August 29, 2011, 07:43:21 PM
Got a 12 hour layover in ZRH....can anyone recommend what to do for a quick trip into Zurich?

How is the PP lounge? I'll be arriving on Swiss Air.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 29, 2011, 07:46:14 PM
Got a 12 hour layover in ZRH....can anyone recommend what to do for a quick trip into Zurich?

How is the PP lounge? I'll be arriving on Swiss Air.
I'd go straight to Lucerne.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on August 29, 2011, 08:06:06 PM
I'd go straight to Lucerne.

How long a journey? Would it be tight?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 29, 2011, 08:17:22 PM
How long a journey? Would it be tight?
I don't remember exactly so hopefully Chuchem will chime in, but maybe like an hour each way.  Definitely plenty of time to go there and either go up Pilatus (if it's a clear day) or go on a boat on the stunning lake and to walk on the town's ancient bridges and old fortified walls.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on August 29, 2011, 08:29:28 PM
I don't remember exactly so hopefully Chuchem will chime in, but maybe like an hour each way.  Definitely plenty of time to go there and either go up Pilatus (if it's a clear day) or go on a boat on the stunning lake and to walk on the town's ancient bridges and old fortified walls.

Sounds awesome! Hopefully we'll get some more info from the Swiss master....how is the PP lounge?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on August 30, 2011, 11:30:21 AM
This is what the concierge at the PH responed to me last month when I asked him what to do in Lucerne:

"Thank you very much for choosing Park Hyatt Zürich for your upcoming stay in Switzerland! It is definitely a nice trip to visit Lucerne and go up to the Pilatus. ( you just enter Luzern Bahnhof to your GPS) Once you arrive to Lucerne, you can park your car at the parking by the railway station. After that I would recommend you to do the Golden Roundtrip. In front of the railway station you can buy the ticket for this trip. (at the piers of the boats). It includes the boat drive to Alpnachstad, from there you take the world's steepest cogwheel railway up to the mountain. After that on the other side you can descent with the cable car to Kriens. From this small city there are buses to Lucerne (5 minutes bus drive). The whole trip takes appr. 3-5 hours depending on how much time you spend up on Mt. Pilatus. I would visit Lucerne after this trip. (Lion Monument, Chapel-Bridge, CHurches, Musegg wall and its Towers) For more information on the Golden Roundtrip please visit www.pilatus.ch/en"

Hope this helps. The weather was horrible when we were there and there was no view from Pliatus so we just did the boat ride. If you have nice weather is should be perfect for a 12 hour stopover.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 30, 2011, 12:19:59 PM
My wife and I just went on the golden roundtrip. It was really an excellent day out. We luckily had some nice weather on the top (actually there was a huge cloud engulfing half the mountain, but only the side away from the lake and the beautiful views (and it was pretty cool to walk into a cloud)). However, beware that it is very expensice-94 CHF (107 if you want to go first class on the boat, which for us was worth it, the top of the boat was empty and we were therefore able to get a table in the shade to eat lunch at). However, you can determine on the boat if you want to do this and just pay for the upgrade on the boat.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 30, 2011, 12:21:31 PM
We had no problem going coach on the boat.
The info center in the train station can also show you 360 views from on top of Pilatus to decide if it's worth spending the $$$ to go up there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 30, 2011, 12:23:12 PM
You did your travelling in May, correct? It may be more packed during the summer
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on August 31, 2011, 03:11:16 AM
School starts tomorrow, so the big crowd should be gone.

However the local yeshiva starts today if you are looking for a minyan.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on September 01, 2011, 02:39:50 PM
Well we got bumped off our Swiss Air flight and were put up in the Renaissance Zurich Airport Hotel. Thanks to my Marriott card from Chase which gives me automatic silver status, we got upgraded to a suite.

Other then fruit, food was obviously an issue although they seemed apologetic and wanted to help. For the future, is there any restaurant open late in town? How far is it from ZRH?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on September 01, 2011, 04:51:49 PM
Baranas Grill is open until 10:00. I think its about 1/2 hour from the airport but Chuchem would know better.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on September 01, 2011, 05:04:00 PM
Baranas Grill is open until 10:00. I think its about 1/2 hour from the airport but Chuchem would know better.

+1
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 01, 2011, 06:47:46 PM
From the airport take the train till Zuerich HB (7 mins).

From there I'd take the tram 14 or 9 to get to yiddelach.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on September 02, 2011, 02:17:03 AM
How much would a cab cost?

How long would the train take/cost?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 02, 2011, 02:49:16 AM
Not sure, but train is much cheaper and faster.

Public transportation is the best I've seen anywhere in Zurich.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 02, 2011, 03:14:15 AM
Not sure, but train is much cheaper and faster.

Public transportation is the best I've seen anywhere in Zurich.
+1.
Inexpensive, efficient, clean, and fun!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 02, 2011, 03:28:05 AM
If you buy a day pass, you can also use the boat on the lake. (You might have to stop at some point on the lake, depending till which zone you bought).

On the other side of the lake, you can visit Rapperswil, a very cute zoo for kids.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on September 04, 2011, 01:42:19 PM
anyone know what the cost of the train from zrh to lucerne is R/T?

are there lockers in the airport to store carry on baggage?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: me on September 04, 2011, 02:23:53 PM
I did it over a year ago so i might be rough on my numbers... iirc it was $100 for 2 RT tickets
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 04, 2011, 02:41:48 PM
Hi

Brussel is not a nice city. Nothing really to see. If you pass through Europe Switzerland will be your better choice. My kids sleep at night on the plane, if yours do as well they should be fine the next day in a stroller. You probably will have it easier then connecting right away, as they will be up all day and sleep again on your 11 PM flight to TLV
Trains are very easy to get around and the Pilatus will a stroller will be fine. Kids are free, your ticket to Lucerne incl. going up the Pilatus will be about 100 USD p.p roundtrip. Lucerne is a nice city, so if your kids are "quetsch" or the weather is not great, you can take a boatride on the lake or just stroll around. Decide that day, but try to aim for Pilatus
 On the way back you can stop in Zuerich for supper in the kosher restaurant. Nothing special, but its nice to have a good meal after traveling.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on September 04, 2011, 03:22:25 PM


Right on! Perhaps chuchem can chime in...how does one access the train from ZRH? Any particular restaurant to stop at on the way back?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on September 04, 2011, 04:45:34 PM
There is a trainstation in the airport.

www.sbb.ch will give you all price info
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 04, 2011, 04:49:00 PM
English: http://www.sbb.ch/en/home.html
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on September 05, 2011, 07:47:59 AM
Thanks everyone! Any restaurant picks in ZRH or Lucerne for late October?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on September 05, 2011, 10:05:30 AM
No restuarants in Luzern. In Zurich the restuarants are "Nu Nu".

(Basel has great restuarants, yum!)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 05, 2011, 02:57:34 PM
No restuarants in Luzern. In Zurich the restuarants are "Nu Nu".

(Basel has great restuarants, yum!)


The cleaning lady in the basel restaurant, has a 3rd cousin that worked in a restaurant in frankfurt, and a friend who lived next to a uk travel agent, so I'd worry about kashrus, but like everything here ymmv
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on September 05, 2011, 03:49:46 PM

The cleaning lady in the basel restaurant, has a 3rd cousin that worked in a restaurant in frankfurt, and a friend who lived next to a uk travel agent, so I'd worry about kashrus, but like everything here ymmv

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Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on September 05, 2011, 04:11:25 PM
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http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5270.msg118821#msg118821
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on October 24, 2011, 03:40:20 PM
Got a 12 hour layover on Thurs in ZRH...I want to take the train to Lucerne and walk around....are there decent size rental lockers in the airport where I can leave my carry on bags?

Is advance booking for the train required?

TIA
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on October 24, 2011, 03:41:30 PM
Yes there is a luggage storage area. Train prebooking not required. Enjoy
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on October 24, 2011, 03:47:33 PM
Thx Chuchem...any particular area in Lucerne we should head to or get off the train at?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2011, 03:52:35 PM
If it's clear go up Pilatus.  If it's cloudy take a boat ride on Lake Lucerne and walk the old bridges and old city walls.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on October 24, 2011, 03:59:47 PM
If I have 2.5 days in Zurich and I do Lucerne one day like suggested here, can anyone recommend a "day trip" to any part of Alps for my second day?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on October 24, 2011, 04:37:05 PM
Thx Chuchem...any particular area in Lucerne we should head to or get off the train at?
Right across from the train station there is a ferry. It is quite a spectacular ride
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on October 24, 2011, 05:23:31 PM
Thx!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on December 05, 2011, 11:53:08 AM
Will be on 2+ day stopover in Zurich in May. Hope to go to Lucern as recommended on this site.

Was also thinking of doing something like this on a day trip from Zurich to see the Alps. My wife would love to see the Alps but can't do stop over for much longer.

http://www.viator.com/tours/Zurich/Jungfraujoch-Top-of-Europe-from-Zurich/d577-2460JUNG

Anyone been to Jungfraujoch before?

Thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ThanksDan on December 06, 2011, 12:01:14 PM
Thanks to all that have posted to this thread - I got lots of great insight into Switzerland from it.

I am looking for advice - I have a 12 hour stopover in Zurich (on the way to Israel) for 9:30am  - 9:30 pm in January. I have seen some of the suggestions for things to do for a 12 hour stopover, but those were for spring and summer months(like the  boat ride in Lucern). Do the suggestions still hold for Winter time?

I am an infrequent traveler, and I have always wanted to see the alps. Does a 12 hour stop allow me the time? Someone suggested Engelberg. Is a trip to Engelberg doable within the time constraints? I looked at the train timetables and it looks like its 2 hours each way. Any opinion if it makes sense, or a suggestion for a different stop?

We are a group of 4 (2 parents and 2 teenage kids). The train tickets aren't cheap. Does Chuchem or anyone know of a reliable driver for the day - it may be more expensive but it may make the entire experience more flexible (for example he could take us around Zurich first and then to Engelberg then back to get food and on to the airport....)

I appreciate the help.

(As a personal note: Thank you Dan. I am only able to take this trip with the help of suggestions that I found on this forum - great credit card offers and the ways to maximize my points, using ANA for route options etc... Thank you!!)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on December 06, 2011, 02:44:54 PM
take the train to lucerne, driver in switzerland will be really expensive. Go up Pilatus if its nice weather. No reason to go to Engelberg, its a village a little higher then Lucerne but view from pilatus is better

For a oneday trip do Lucerne/Pilatus forget Zuerich
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ThanksDan on December 07, 2011, 03:41:06 AM
Thanks Chuchem. Your expertise is really appreciated. I will be taking your advice.

I hope to follow up with a brief trip report to let the board know how it went.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on December 07, 2011, 04:40:56 AM
Thanks Chuchem.

Maybe you should change your username now.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on December 07, 2011, 06:14:16 AM
Just make sure its not cloudy that day, or else the train and ride up pilatus will be a waste of alot of money!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 07, 2011, 07:13:00 AM
Don't forget to eat at fein by shein or whatever the place is called. Not too overpriced
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on December 07, 2011, 09:27:36 AM
Don't forget to eat at fein by shein or whatever the place is called. Not too overpriced

not overtasty either, but after airlines meals it will do.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 07, 2011, 09:42:20 AM
not overtasty either
I beg to differ
What's now adays in the ex. Shalom resturant in the JCC?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 07, 2011, 12:31:16 PM
Just make sure its not cloudy that day, or else the train and ride up pilatus will be a waste of alot of money!
+1.
The visitors center in the train station will show you a live you from on top of pilatus and you'll be able to see if it's cloudy or clear.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on December 08, 2011, 03:03:36 AM
I believe I once saw a livecam on the internet, so you'd save yourself a trip.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 10, 2011, 01:40:29 PM
Anyone got any idea what and where the kosher hotels are like?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 11, 2011, 09:07:59 AM
Ok. Il be more specific i want to go for a midweek break to the alps, i need a hotel that has good food decent, I'v heard that arosa is crumy but is the best, anyone been to somewhere else and can recomend it?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 11, 2011, 09:10:08 AM
If you want to have a good time, bring your food & stay at a non-kosher hotel
Kempinski in St. Moritz is my favorite, excellent value. If the Edelweiss hotel is open on your dates, they serve kosher meals & are only a few minutes away
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 11, 2011, 09:41:59 AM
Isnt edelweiss closed? What is the maleh of going to a Non jewish hotel? I cant use the spa coz its mixed the food is not touchable?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 11, 2011, 09:46:28 AM
Nice hotel?
Pools are often empty IME
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 11, 2011, 09:55:18 AM
but no food, and belive me my house is the best place to stay in! lol what im looking for is a decent place that has decent food decent price and beautiful mounts, Iv heard arosa is the best will anyone confirm or does anyone have any other ideas?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 11, 2011, 10:03:18 AM
You'll get a half the price at a non-kosher hotel of the same caliber. To each is own though.
Never been to Arosa, but St. Moritz is supposed to be nicer (again, if the Edelwiess is still there)
Boy, you're wetting my apetite
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 11, 2011, 11:17:43 AM
edelweiss closed down

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 11, 2011, 12:36:04 PM
So st moritz is out of the deal, and we are back to square one! Any ideas? 
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on December 12, 2011, 03:31:51 AM
Well, jews always stick to st-moritz for some reason.

Ask the real mavinim (swiss nationality does not mean anything), and they will send you to Wallis/Valais kanton, which also has the best chance for nice weather.

Depending on the time you want to go, try going to Cranz Montana, some dude meir klein has a hotel there.

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on December 12, 2011, 03:38:46 AM
For the latter, I'd fly to GVA (Geneva).

It does not need to break your ticket, as GVA connects well to the other airports around.

(If renting a car there, look for both GVA and GVV* as the price differences can be enormous.
Note: the GVA rental has more chance of having winter tires which isn't just luxury if going in the winter, and high up.

*GVV is a little enclave in Geneva Airport which belongs to France [as opposed to Switzerland] which is a bit of a headache to use)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 12, 2011, 06:33:30 AM
Thanks for the info any more details about this hotel/meir klein?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 12, 2011, 06:42:25 AM
Oh and food quantity/quality
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on December 12, 2011, 12:12:32 PM
Hotelmk*#"atgmail.com

Remove the *#"

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on December 12, 2011, 12:33:29 PM
Here his number, do not use me as a referral pls: +32485640498

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 12, 2011, 06:39:42 PM
Ta v much
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 13, 2011, 09:27:03 AM
Anyone had experience of driving in swizerland during the winter?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on December 13, 2011, 07:12:20 PM
What's the question.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 14, 2011, 03:23:45 AM
You know, snow ice etc. Is it worth taking a car, it would be cheaper then the train. I worked that out.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on December 14, 2011, 07:49:06 AM
if you are going to one location and staying there, a train - bus combo should be fine, unless you have a huge amount of luggage, lots of kids etc.

if staying below 1600m I wouldnt expect too much trouble, and I hope to make sure that you drive shift well (important for mountains).

also don't leave a car out of gear (neutral), as the car slips easier that way.

parking on slope with handbrake, and gear set to drive upwards..
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 14, 2011, 07:59:54 AM
I drive stick, and have driven is switzerland before, Ive never done it in the winter! a car would be cheaper although most of the sane people i know have advised me not to take a car. My reasons for taking a car 1. Speed it is more then an hour less then the train. 2. Flexibility, if i go by train i will have to wait 4hours in the airport for no good reason. 3. No Shlepping from one train/bus to the other.

My options as in hotel at the mo are. The maloja palace in st. moritz or good old arosa they are both around the $300 per couple per nite. Anyone ever been there? What does arosa vs st moritz equation equal? The Maloja hotel is further from my airport that im arriving to (bsl). Thanks for all your advice so far! Your super!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on December 14, 2011, 10:28:42 AM
If renting a car in Switzerland, you will get winter tires = no problem.

Is there no way your ticket can end in ZRH or GVA ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 14, 2011, 12:10:28 PM
Iv had freinds telling me that the road up to arosa is treacherous and it would be suicidal even with snow tires etc etc.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 14, 2011, 12:46:24 PM
And no Basel was the only place I could get cheap tickets.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on December 14, 2011, 07:49:00 PM
Unless you are this scared guy, I wouldn't worry about.

There are much worse roads, than to arosa.

Just drive steadily, and not too fast, no abrupt moves, and you are ok.

Just in case, speak to areivim.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 15, 2011, 07:12:40 AM
Lol, is there really an areiveim in Swaziland?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on December 15, 2011, 10:09:47 AM
sorry for my late reply. I am traveling at the moment. Go to maloja, nicer hotel, St. Moritz is close by, St. MOritz much nicer then arosa... the drive is fine, just dont speed on the snow, you will have winter tires. I hate the drive to Arosa, very curvy....
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 15, 2011, 11:53:01 AM
Maloja is not in St. Moritz its one lake over
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 15, 2011, 12:40:14 PM
Hi chuchem, I was wondering where you went? I have all this conflicting info lol. Ok. Lets think about maloja what is the food like and the panorama?
In regards to the driving I was told that some roads may be closed or something. Isnt the drive to St moritz through the flulapass?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on December 17, 2011, 01:23:35 PM
I was in yul and ewr...

Maloja is very nice, st. Moritz is even nicer and only 20 minutes away. Food is ok, hotel is run by israelis. You will not get 5 star meals, but you will get plenty... Quantity very good, quality ok... I was happy, if you go with the right expetations... But st. Moritz and maloja are beautiful in the winter... You have to drive over the julier pass, not so hard... If you dont wanna do it, you can load your car on the train, there is a train tunnel, that you skip the entire mountain pass, you still have to drive about the same distance, but no pass. Costs about 50 fr. Incl all people in car... The whole journey takes 30 min longer like this...

Anyway go to maloja and st. Moritz, you will not regret it
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Armadillo on December 17, 2011, 02:13:28 PM
Just to chime in because I never did get around to writing my report. I did 12 hrs in ZRH this past July with 2 kids ages 3 & 5 by myself (wife flew direct). I went to Lucerne by train, took the boat ride to Pilatus but didn't go up because didn't have enough time both because I missed my stop which really sucked (never took a boat ride before except from point a-b) and because I wasn't prepared with the schedule. Get your hands on the schedule beforehand so you know how fast you have to go, which train and boat you want to make. Totally worthwhile though. Stopped in Migros by the airport with the Zurich kosher list and picked up some good bread and chocolate. The lounge was okay - nothing exciting. The bathroom is outside the lounge down the hall which was really annoying. Grabbed a few local beers for the road.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on December 17, 2011, 02:30:32 PM
Just to chime in because I never did get around to writing my report. I did 12 hrs in ZRH this past July with 2 kids ages 3 & 5 by myself (wife flew direct). I went to Lucerne by train, took the boat ride to Pilatus but didn't go up because didn't have enough time both because I missed my stop which really sucked (never took a boat ride before except from point a-b) and because I wasn't prepared with the schedule. Get your hands on the schedule beforehand so you know how fast you have to go, which train and boat you want to make. Totally worthwhile though. Stopped in Migros by the airport with the Zurich kosher list and picked up some good bread and chocolate. The lounge was okay - nothing exciting. The bathroom is outside the lounge down the hall which was really annoying. Grabbed a few local beers for the road.

cool..what/where exactly is migros?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on December 17, 2011, 05:25:41 PM
The bathroom is outside the lounge down the hall which was really annoying. Grabbed a few local beers for the road.
might be good to clarify, Your talking about the PP free entry lounge, definitely not about the Swiss lounge which is really really cool!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on December 17, 2011, 05:29:35 PM
cool..what/where exactly is migros?
The Migros in the airport is before check in on the floor with all the stores which goes around like a circle. (the floor between check in 3 and check in 1+2) if your coming with a train you cant miss it on your way up.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 17, 2011, 05:54:51 PM
Thanks chuchem, can the julier pass be closed during the winter? Also any pool or kinda thing in the area that can be used? I havent missed a mikva in a long time!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Armadillo on December 18, 2011, 01:07:32 AM
cool..what/where exactly is migros?
Migros is a Swiss grocery co-op. They have a lot of kosher food, you just have to get the list and make sure the package matches exactly (They have it in English). Or you have to meet someone there who is Swiss and frum, which is actually what happened to me and was great. I can possibly upload a pic later of some packages if there is interest.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Avid Reader on December 18, 2011, 09:11:42 AM
Migros is a Swiss grocery co-op. They have a lot of kosher food, you just have to get the list and make sure the package matches exactly (They have it in English). Or you have to meet someone there who is Swiss and frum, which is actually what happened to me and was great. I can possibly upload a pic later of some packages if there is interest.

Does the list change often? Maybe you can upload the kosher list as well.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 18, 2011, 10:49:25 AM
http://www.irgz.ch/downloads/koscherliste_aktuell.pdf
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 19, 2011, 09:34:57 AM
Iv been reading that the julierpass closes at night can anyone confirm this? And how is the night driving like on it(10pm -2 am )? Where can i see if it will be open or closed?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yare on December 22, 2011, 02:10:26 PM
i read through about half of this thread and i haven't seen anything specific on lucerne in the winter...  we're going in a month to zrh for a day (on our way to venice) and i figured we would go to lucerne.  what's it like in the winter?  boat ride around the lake still make sense?   any suggestions?    we'll be traveling with a 7 month old baby as well, if that affects anything.               
we'll be staying at the ph zurich which is right by the train station i believe, what's the quickest/most efficient way of getting to the kosher restaurants?     thanks.
 
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 22, 2011, 02:13:21 PM
Doesn't the Zurich See freeze over?
There's a tram to the kosher restaurant (s), in general taxis are extremely expensive in CH.
I'm sure someone more knoweldgable than me will tell you which train to take. Its also just about a 30 min walk, IIRC.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 24, 2011, 05:36:11 PM
Does anyone have any info on a card called the geminde card that gives you real cheap prices.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on December 24, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
Its a ticket you get from the gemeindehaus. You have to be a Swiss citizen to pick it up, it costs 35 francs and gives you unlimited public transportation for a day you choose, if they have it available.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 24, 2011, 06:31:27 PM
Hmm so you have to be swiss to pick it up. Anyone swiss here willing to do a good turn?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on December 27, 2011, 12:35:38 PM
Does anyone know about a decent restaurant in the city of Basel?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Blazer on January 01, 2012, 11:41:54 AM
I'm going to be in Zurich on Jan 18th on the way home from Tel Aviv-New York, I will be in the airport for 2 hours, anyone know what airlines club they have in that airport, an how do i get in them ( I don't have a ny CC that allows me in) I will be flying Swissair.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on January 01, 2012, 09:44:52 PM
Swiss what class of service?

What *A card do you have ?

Silver or gold?

Finally, do you travel alone?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Blazer on January 01, 2012, 10:00:05 PM
I'm flying alone, I bought the ticket through Expedia New zealand (dansdeals best) I'm flying there with Air Canada and back with Swissair.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Blazer on January 01, 2012, 10:02:38 PM
What's an *A card
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on January 02, 2012, 01:07:04 AM
*A card is a frequent flyer card from a star alliance member airline, such as united, continental, us air, swiss/Lufthansa/etc, ana,...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: intgesh on March 11, 2012, 04:53:31 PM
how can i find Swiss Train maps & timetables in English?
on the sbb website it just gives pdf files in german
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: intgesh on March 11, 2012, 05:11:21 PM
also what is the weather generally like in Zurich/ Lucerne in late March?
what about St. Moritz?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on March 11, 2012, 05:56:00 PM
mixed, last drop of snow... its change of season, so anything is possible
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 11, 2012, 07:25:58 PM
how can i find Swiss Train maps & timetables in English?
on the sbb website it just gives pdf files in german

You tried this http://www.sbb.ch/en/home.html I assume..?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 12, 2012, 09:21:58 AM
also what is the weather generally like in Zurich/ Lucerne in late March?
what about St. Moritz?
Too cold for a pleasant vacation IME&O
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on March 12, 2012, 09:24:41 AM
is 7 hours enough to go into zrh for food and get back to the airport?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 12, 2012, 09:25:53 AM
is 7 hours enough to go into zrh for food and get back to the airport?
7 hour stopver in ZRH? Sure. I would do it on a 3 hour.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on March 12, 2012, 09:26:52 AM
Where should I go for quick takeout? How to get there?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 12, 2012, 09:28:57 AM
Where should I go for quick takeout? How to get there?
Fein by shein is a quick take out. Train to central st. Bahnoff strasse and a tram from there.
Very possibly the airplane food will be better.
I might be there April 3
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 15, 2012, 03:58:46 AM
For F&S I wouldn't leave the airport.

Interesting that its the only place that survived along the years.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 15, 2012, 08:16:33 AM
For F&S I wouldn't leave the airport.

Interesting that its the only place that survived along the years.
Sometimes leaving the airport is easier than staying there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on March 15, 2012, 08:58:27 AM
Sometimes leaving the airport is easier than staying there.

can't imagine spending 6 hours at the panorama lounge....
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: intgesh on March 17, 2012, 03:28:29 PM
You tried this http://www.sbb.ch/en/home.html I assume..?
yes, the website is in english but the pdf file is in german
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: intgesh on March 17, 2012, 03:31:08 PM
also is there a hachnasas orchim place where i can stay for cheap
or a shul where i can drop my bags
and lastly, a lounge in zrh that amex plat gives u access to?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on March 17, 2012, 04:26:32 PM
also is there a hachnasas orchim place where i can stay for cheap
or a shul where i can drop my bags
and lastly, a lounge in zrh that amex plat gives u access to?

if u have amex plat get them to send you your priority pass select card which will get you into lounges at ZRH....
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: satturn on April 01, 2012, 02:07:16 PM
Im going to be in Zurich for 2 nights and one day in between. I'd like to go to arosa for the day because they have the cheapest option to really see the alps (13 CHF for an all inclusive card). Is there any day pass or cheaper way to get to arosa? the quote on sbb.ch is 104 CHF pp for rt.
any ideas?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on April 01, 2012, 02:41:21 PM
when I was there 2 weeks ago for a day, we got someone from switzerland to buy us a day pass for most transportation for 40 CHF, it got mailed to their house in switzerland. all we had to pay for was the train ride from the airport to weidikon station it was 6.40 CHF. (actually I never validated the card so tecnically it was free, seems like the local trains are free!!!) I didn't see anything like this online, maybe only people from switzerland can get this. but if u can get your hands on this it would be the cheapest way
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: intgesh on April 01, 2012, 10:46:54 PM
when I was there 2 weeks ago for a day, we got someone from switzerland to buy us a day pass for most transportation for 40 CHF, it got mailed to their house in switzerland. all we had to pay for was the train ride from the airport to weidikon station it was 6.40 CHF. (actually I never validated the card so tecnically it was free, seems like the local trains are free!!!) I didn't see anything like this online, maybe only people from switzerland can get this. but if u can get your hands on this it would be the cheapest way
keep in mind- the day pass only works for one calendar day, if you plan on going on your first night there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: satturn on April 02, 2012, 03:02:48 PM
I've done some research and realized what I need is a "Geminde's Tagaskarte".
My problem is it can only be bought by a swiss resident. Is there anyone who can/or knows someone who would be able to buy this for me and I would pay you for this?

PM me if you can help. Thanks!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on April 02, 2012, 04:35:24 PM
very good, you figured it out. A gemeindekarte is what you need. its a major pain to get, most places dont mail them, even the ones that do. You gotta wire the money in advance....
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on April 02, 2012, 07:44:53 PM
I've done some research and realized what I need is a "Geminde's Tagaskarte".
My problem is it can only be bought by a swiss resident. Is there anyone who can/or knows someone who would be able to buy this for me and I would pay you for this?

PM me if you can help. Thanks!

I've had this done, to get the rägeboge karte, which is also for unlimited travel.

A swiss guy could buy it for you, but it would have his name on it, but he could later attach your picture on it (if it needs one).
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: satturn on April 03, 2012, 01:41:51 AM
I've had this done, to get the rägeboge karte, which is also for unlimited travel.

A swiss guy could buy it for you, but it would have his name on it, but he could later attach your picture on it (if it needs one).

it seems from the research i did on the switzerland english forum, that there are different options, the one I am asking about has to be bought by one person in swiss, but can be used by anyone, no id is attached to it.

am i wrong?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on April 03, 2012, 01:53:48 AM
the day pass that the guy in switzerland bought for me had no Id on it. It was the card that starts with a G!!!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: satturn on April 03, 2012, 01:58:04 AM
yes thats the one the "Gemeinde Tageskarte"
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on April 03, 2012, 02:00:53 AM
yup! looks right!!  Can't say it sounds right though!! :)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: satturn on April 09, 2012, 06:32:26 PM
any benefit over the "Marriott Renaissance Tower" over the Renaissance Zurich Hotel? i need to be in the airport early so i took the one closer to the airport- they are both cat 6.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 09, 2012, 07:17:10 PM
any benefit over the "Marriott Renaissance Tower" over the Renaissance Zurich Hotel? i need to be in the airport early so i took the one closer to the airport- they are both cat 6.
The Marriot Zurich is a great hotel, down the block from the central train st. (10 min to airport). But why not buy Hyatt certs? And the Radisson at the airport is amazing, though not worth it unless u use points.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: satturn on April 10, 2012, 05:30:17 AM
The Marriot Zurich is a great hotel, down the block from the central train st. (10 min to airport). But why not buy Hyatt certs? And the Radisson at the airport is amazing, though not worth it unless u use points.
Thanks!
it is with points.
but which marriot in zurich are you refering to? there are 2 marriots in zurich- tower or regular?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 10, 2012, 05:32:18 AM
Thanks!
it is with points.
but which marriot in zurich are you refering to? there are 2 marriots in zurich- tower or regular?
a third, the Marriot Zurich. Your two are cheaper afaik.
It has 2 buildings on two sides of the street, with a bridge in between.
Whatever u do, don't stay in the are next to the airport ( radisson is in the aiport mamesh), where the IC is, it is the only 4* IC worldwide, and the area is horrible.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: satturn on April 10, 2012, 05:59:26 AM
a third, the Marriot Zurich. Your two are cheaper afaik.
It has 2 buildings on two sides of the street, with a bridge in between.
Whatever u do, don't stay in the are next to the airport ( radisson is in the aiport mamesh), where the IC is, it is the only 4* IC worldwide, and the area is horrible.
Thanks!
The marriot zurich is 2 expensive - it looks like i will be going with the Renaissance Zurich Hotel - the "tower" is in close proximity to the IC - in the area you do not recommend.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mike on May 13, 2012, 05:15:07 PM
i am going to Switzerland beginig of July for 1 week, which area and which hotel is the best/nicest place to stay? i am flexible on which area to be staying but would like to be close walk to Kosher food and Minyan as i am also staying there for Shabbos.

what attractions is a must see?

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: md on May 23, 2012, 08:29:00 AM
I'm planning on going to St Moritz (non kosher Hotel) mid july with my wife. Should we shlep packaged meals from NY or is there a recommended option for catered meals or to pick up meals in Zurich? Thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on May 23, 2012, 08:34:26 AM
I'm planning on going to St Moritz (non kosher Hotel) mid july with my wife. Should we shlep packaged meals from NY or is there a recommended option for catered meals or to pick up meals in Zurich? Thanks
If they do stop you at the airport than any meats etc will be confiscated, plus a possible fine.
For the meat part, there is a kosher butcher who would ship etc. Called kol tuv. Might be worth a try.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on May 23, 2012, 03:54:15 PM
Thanks!
The marriot zurich is 2 expensive - it looks like i will be going with the Renaissance Zurich Hotel - the "tower" is in close proximity to the IC - in the area you do not recommend.

stayed there last year..with marriott silver got bumped into junior suite...room seemed old fashioned but no complaints...lobby/serivce was nice and is close to airport...how many points is it?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: satturn on June 17, 2012, 01:18:41 PM
whats the nearest shul to the park hyatt?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mena613 on June 18, 2012, 04:45:08 AM
The nearest Shul to the Park Hyatt (btw absolutely gorgeous Hotel) is called IRG, its about 10min walk away from the Hotel and the exact address is Freigutstrasse.17.  Meat in Zurich is EXTREMELY expensive, and even if your planning to spend allot of money for the vacation or visit you will be shocked by the prices. There is a kosher food store in Germany, about a 15min drive from Zurich Airport where you can buy meat,wine, tuna and all basic food products for literally half the price they cost in Switzerland, if you contact the owner of the store (speak fluent english) you might even be able to arrange delivery or something like that.

Schleider Foods
Lerchenstr. 6
79807 Lottstetten
Swiss nr +41 77 401 55 26
ch.schleider@gmail.com
 
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on June 18, 2012, 05:27:05 AM
You can get to Germany in a 15 minute drive from Zurich Airport?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on June 18, 2012, 08:59:50 AM
You can get to Germany in a 15 minute drive from Zurich Airport?
Yes From ZRH to this address its a 25 min drive.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mena613 on June 18, 2012, 10:27:04 AM

I believe from Center Zurich this address in Germany is a 25min drive but for someone arriving in Zurich Airport    (Kloten) it would not take more then 15min to get there. The store is about a 3min drive from the German border. There are limits how much food and meat you are allowed to bring back into Switzerland per person but just ask the store for the details.

Schleider Kosher Food

Lerchenstr. 6               
79807 Lottstetten
Germany         
Tel. Switzerland: +41774015526
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Daniel on June 30, 2012, 11:48:36 PM
We have a 13hr layover 9am to 10pm in ZRH. Hoping to get a room at the Park Hyatt. What's the best activity on the lake nearby? What can you do with two small kids?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 30, 2012, 11:54:02 PM
Forget the PH, go to Lucerne for the day.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on July 01, 2012, 07:34:04 AM
+1
you should be able to go up mt. rigi in that amount of time, its a beautiful boat ride across the lake and then a train ride up the mountain.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 01, 2012, 03:40:58 PM
If you want to stay in zrh go in town, then to the lake, and take a boatride to Rapperwil, which is a children zoo, and quite cute.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Daniel on July 02, 2012, 09:05:26 AM
Forget the PH, go to Lucerne for the day.

We will need a place to freshen up, take a shower, 1hr nap, etc... and drop off all our carry ons. I figured PH would be worth it (I have free nights to burn).
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 02, 2012, 09:06:29 AM
Radisson make a lot more sense, its in the terminal builidng very cute hotel.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Daniel on July 02, 2012, 09:08:16 AM
Radisson make a lot more sense, its in the terminal builidng very cute hotel.

But we want to go into town anyways and I dont have any Radisson points or status.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Daniel on July 02, 2012, 09:08:31 AM
If you want to stay in zrh go in town, then to the lake, and take a boatride to Rapperwil, which is a children zoo, and quite cute.

Can you point me to boatride info? Sounds good. Is it close to PH? How much is a cab to PH from ZRH? Not sure if we can manage on a train witht he 2 kids and all the carry ons (we dont travel light)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 02, 2012, 09:10:26 AM
But we want to go into town anyways and I dont have any Radisson points or status.
sleep first, then go into town. Why do u need status for a 1 hour nap???
Its 50k points. Many people should have, or u can get them urself by staying one night in any radisson
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Daniel on July 02, 2012, 09:17:06 AM
sleep first, then go into town. Why do u need status for a 1 hour nap???
Its 50k points. Many people should have, or u can get them urself by staying one night in any radisson

Not looking to spend any money on a room
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 02, 2012, 09:19:16 AM
Sell a hyatt night for $250. Check into a radisson for <$150, use the 50k points to stay in the radisson.

Take the $100 and buy yourself a treat.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Daniel on July 02, 2012, 09:25:16 AM
Didn't know you could sell them. Good idea. Is there a shuttle to the radission? And how do we get from there into town (or Lucerene)?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 02, 2012, 09:27:29 AM
It is in the same building as the terminal, you'll see plenty of signs.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Daniel on July 02, 2012, 12:34:56 PM
Does PH offer Kosher breakfast or a credit for diamonds?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 02, 2012, 12:35:32 PM
Does PH offer Kosher breakfast or a credit for diamonds?
Yes
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2012, 12:38:59 PM
I was given 5k points in lieu of kosher breakfast.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Daniel on July 02, 2012, 12:39:40 PM
Yes

Which one? Credit or Breakfast. If they have breakfast that would be another reason to choose the PH.
Title: Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 02, 2012, 01:03:07 PM
I was given 5k points in lieu of kosher breakfast.
+1, although in think I got 3k
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Daniel on July 02, 2012, 01:12:00 PM
+1, although in think I got 3k

Seems pretty small compared to the $75 credit other people got elsewhere
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on July 02, 2012, 10:41:31 PM
Does PH offer Kosher breakfast or a credit for diamonds?
Yes I just got back from the PH ( full trip report coming soon IY'H) it was airline food buisness/ first class, from Schalom caterers. They also gave a nice bottle of kosher champagne, and lots of cholov yisroel chocolate.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2012, 10:46:07 PM
Yes I just got back from the PH ( full trip report coming soon IY'H) it was airline food buisness/ first class, from Schalom caterers.
Meh, happy I got 5K then!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on July 02, 2012, 10:51:52 PM
Meh, happy I got 5K then!
You dont think you could eat 5K worth of choc? ;)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2012, 10:53:32 PM
Yes I just got back from the PH ( full trip report coming soon IY'H) it was airline food buisness/ first class, from Schalom caterers. They also gave a nice bottle of kosher champagne, and lots of cholov yisroel chocolate.
Lol...that edit changes things sir!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on July 02, 2012, 11:04:19 PM
Sorry, my wife reminded me of them when she saw the post. Well not THAT much chocolate just 2 torino boxes each day.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on July 02, 2012, 11:30:19 PM
Sorry, my wife reminded me of them when she saw the post. Well not THAT much chocolate just 2 torino boxes each day.
Thats quite a bit for 2 people...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Hudi on July 03, 2012, 12:52:05 AM
Yes I just got back from the PH ( full trip report coming soon IY'H) it was airline food buisness/ first class, from Schalom caterers. They also gave a nice bottle of kosher champagne, and lots of cholov yisroel chocolate.

Were you a Diamond when you stayed at the PH? Will the PH do anything for Platinums?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on July 03, 2012, 09:44:22 AM
Were you a Diamond when you stayed at the PH? Will the PH do anything for Platinums?
Yes I am a Diamond, I have no idea about Plartinums, however the front desk did mention that they can order kosher food for any one and the charge would be something like 20-25 Swiss Franc.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mena613 on July 04, 2012, 12:27:00 PM

Why would you get a room at the Hyett if your only going to be there for the day ?

Just roam around Zurich, visit the like then walk down the main shopping street, famous Bahnhofstrasse and visit the Kosher take away fine by fine which has a bus taking you right outside of it from the City.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Hudi on July 04, 2012, 08:53:38 PM
Yes I am a Diamond, I have no idea about Plartinums, however the front desk did mention that they can order kosher food for any one and the charge would be something like 20-25 Swiss Franc.

Just got an email back from the PH. Kosher Breakfast is 85 CHF pp per day. Probably not worth it?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: md on July 04, 2012, 10:18:45 PM
anyone have any ideas on getting discounts on Badrutts or Kempinski hotels in st moritz? I'm looking for July 16-19.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 04, 2012, 10:22:59 PM
anyone have any ideas on getting discounts on Badrutts or Kempinski hotels in st moritz? I'm looking for July 16-19.
In general its ok, but I've heard first hand stories of Jews being asked to leave the palace.

The kempinski is an absolutely awesome hotel, it should be possible to get in the $300-350 range by searching momondo.com etc. The location (IMHO) is preferable. They can arrange a kosher breakfast (basic) for €15 or so. Don't rent their bikes. They have a complementary (BMW series 5) shuttle to the St., but are grouchy about arranging a pick up in advance IME.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: md on July 04, 2012, 10:33:40 PM
In general its ok, but I've heard first hand stories of Jews being asked to leave the palace.

The kempinski is an absolutely awesome hotel, it should be possible to get in the $300-350 range by searching momondo.com etc. The location (IMHO) is preferable. They can arrange a kosher breakfast (basic) for €15 or so. Don't rent their bikes. They have a complementary (BMW series 5) shuttle to the St., but are grouchy about arranging a pick up in advance IME.
thanks, can you elaborate on why not to rent their bikes? Is there a better option?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 05, 2012, 02:40:54 AM
Dysfunctional bikes. There's a great place at the traffic circle between the dorf & the bad. Rented a brand new Felt Virtue 1 there a few years ago, but AFAIK he know only has cheaper bikes.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on July 29, 2012, 05:11:30 AM
 have a 5 hr stopover in zurich on the way to bkk from tlv. good chance im wiped as im flying 5 am after tisha beav with wife and 7 month baby. in case im not, is it worth leaving the airport, and if yes what can ido in 5 hrs.?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 29, 2012, 09:40:20 AM
have a 5 hr stopover in zurich on the way to bkk from tlv. good chance im wiped as im flying 5 am after tisha beav with wife and 7 month baby. in case im not, is it worth leaving the airport, and if yes what can ido in 5 hrs.?
Very worth it. Take a 10 minute train to the central train station, Bahnof. Stroll down the Bahnoff Strausse to the lake and back.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on August 02, 2012, 08:18:38 AM
HI! first id like to thanks for chuchem for helping everyone here so kindly, and all others.
Im traveling iy'h me my wife and a 2 year old baby to Swiss-Arosa from TLV, aug. 9 for 2 weeks, and ill be using the train to get to Arosa from ZUR airport, and i loooked through the thread and ill like to ask some questions,

1. is it better to purchse train tickets online/is it cheaper then from buying it at the airport?

2. which kind of tickets would be best to buy (i only need for the way into Arosa)? a one way? family? daypass? and if i buy a one way and i take one train and i miss it will i be able to go on the next one with this ticket?

3. do i have to buy a ticket for my 2 year old baby?

4. i heard that i can send my luggages from TLV airport by check-in straight to Arosa, is it true? can i buy this tags only at ben gurion airport or even now befor hand?

5. how much does it cost about for one luggage?

6. will it arrive to my address or train station at Arosa or to the post office in Arosa?

thanks :)
Title: What to Do in Zurich for One Day? (Price Mistake Stopover)
Post by: Nitantnel on August 08, 2012, 07:49:09 AM
There is already a long thread about Switzerland here, (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=973.msg7526#msg7526) and a short post about Zurich here, (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=18424.msg269818#msg269818) this thread is specifically for people who are staying in Zurich for one day only. Help us figure out what should be our priority!
Title: Re: What to Do in Zurich for One Day? (Price Mistake Stopover)
Post by: SuperFlyer on August 08, 2012, 07:54:19 AM
The other thread is mostly covering one day stops.
Title: Re: What to Do in Zurich for One Day? (Price Mistake Stopover)
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 08, 2012, 08:08:09 AM
The other thread is mostly covering one day stops.

+1
Title: Re: What to Do in Zurich for One Day? (Price Mistake Stopover)
Post by: sruly101 on August 08, 2012, 01:07:59 PM
There is already a long thread about Switzerland here, (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=973.msg7526#msg7526) and a short post about Zurich here, (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=18424.msg269818#msg269818) this thread is specifically for people who are staying in Zurich for one day only. Help us figure out what should be our priority!
i dont get it r u snding me to this thread?here i am!! and im leaving tonight can any1 still help me?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on August 08, 2012, 11:46:41 PM
5 hours between flights enough time to leave airport with a baby?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yehuda S on August 26, 2012, 05:44:41 PM
I'm looking to take a 2 day trip to Switzerland or somewhere in Europe where I can see amazing scenery. I stumbled on this place called Lautenbrunnen, anyone ever been? It looks unbelievable!    :o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauterbrunnen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauterbrunnen)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 26, 2012, 08:10:35 PM
5 hours between flights enough time to leave airport with a baby?
ZRH? Sure.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LA2NYC on August 28, 2012, 12:08:46 PM
I'm planning to be in Switzerland and will have 2 full days to spend in the Alps (sleeping in Grindelwald) and a half day to spend in Interlaken (before I take the train to Geneva to catch my departing flight the next morning).  Does anyone have any experience with this area or suggestions for activities?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on October 29, 2012, 09:26:04 PM
I am planning a trip for a family of 6 from Israel to Switzerland in the summer.

   I've never been there myself so I was wondering if someone could direct me as to where a good hotel would be for them to stay at.  I'm looking for one close enough to a shul and with easy access to local attractions and sites.

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 29, 2012, 10:02:56 PM
In Zurich the PH Zurich
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on October 29, 2012, 10:12:03 PM
In Zurich the PH Zurich

Is it better to stay somewhere down south? It seems like many of the nicer scenery areas are in Southern Switzerland.
Anywhere to find minyanim down there?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: satturn on October 30, 2012, 05:25:53 AM
In Zurich the PH Zurich
at $900+ a day!
Or free with the hyatt card!
Great Hotel! stayed there on the hyatt cards tab- and got matched to diamond- they gave us kosher (airline) breakfast.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on October 30, 2012, 05:57:41 AM
Hi
Looking for Ideas for Vacation in August. I am going to Switzerland this is my third time. What I am looking for this time is somewhere close to Davos (30 min Drive Radius) but not too close. So that can use all the amenities in Davos whilst still having some privacy. I have a group of about 10 families so ideally looking for a small village that we can go together for minyan etc. Any Ideas? 
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: L'Chaim on October 30, 2012, 06:47:53 AM
There are so many kosher hotels in Switzerland in the summer (and the whole year round).
Here are just a few that come to mind:
Tourplus (http://en.tourplus.co.il/) (Israeli company, they have a few hotels) 
Villars (http://www.hotelvillars.com/)
Arosa and Davos (http://www.levinarosa.com/)

If it doesn't necessarily have to be Switzerland, then I can recommend My One Hotel (http://www.mykosherhotel.it) in Italy.
There are also lots of hotels in France and Austria.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on October 30, 2012, 06:49:18 AM
Im not looking for hotels. Im looking for self catering apartments in that area.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mena613 on October 30, 2012, 04:35:05 PM

The area called 'Klosters" is right near Davos, but much more quiet and beautiful, happends to be that the english Royal family
go there... Were are you planning on getting your food from ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on October 30, 2012, 05:13:46 PM
Thanks for your reply I will  be going in the summer Hols Iy"h. Klosters also gets abit busy them I have been in Adelboden and Saas Almagel. They are little villages and am looking for somthing more like that but close enough to davos to be able to stock up on supplies e.g milk etc. but that our family group can have a bit of privacy.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on October 30, 2012, 06:15:40 PM
There are so many kosher hotels in Switzerland in the summer (and the whole year round).
Here are just a few that come to mind:
Tourplus (http://en.tourplus.co.il/) (Israeli company, they have a few hotels) 
Villars (http://www.hotelvillars.com/)
Arosa and Davos (http://www.levinarosa.com/)

If it doesn't necessarily have to be Switzerland, then I can recommend My One Hotel (http://www.mykosherhotel.it) in Italy.
There are also lots of hotels in France and Austria.

thanks so much! This is really helpful. Do you recommend one of these areas over the others?

Also on the Toursplus site they offer a few different places. Any better than the others from that site?

Thanks so much
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on October 30, 2012, 07:44:58 PM
For those of you who read Swiss German there is a great site for Switzerland and EU information http://www.eyzes.com/.

Mods if this post violates forum rules please delete it.
Title: Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: creditor on October 30, 2012, 09:39:34 PM
For those of you who read Swiss German there is a great site for Switzerland and EU information http://www.eyzes.com/.

Mods if this post violates forum rules please delete it.
303 members! not bad for socha small audience
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: L'Chaim on October 31, 2012, 02:31:56 AM
For those of you who read Swiss German there is a great site for Switzerland and EU information http://www.eyzes.com/.

Mods if this post violates forum rules please delete it.
FTFY, AFAIK Swiss German uses regular German (hochdeutsch) to write.
Title: Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: creditor on October 31, 2012, 02:33:48 AM
FTFY, AFAIK Swiss German uses regular German (hochdeutsch) to write.
+1
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: L'Chaim on October 31, 2012, 03:39:26 AM
thanks so much! This is really helpful. Do you recommend one of these areas over the others?

Also on the Toursplus site they offer a few different places. Any better than the others from that site?

Thanks so much
One thing I can tell you is that with Israeli management you're (almost) guaranteed that there will be more than enough food.
A far as area's, there's plenty of activities wherever you go and the Alpes are beautiful everywhere.
I have personally stayed in a few places in the Alpes over the years and if you have questions about a place that you're considering I'll be happy to help.
Btw you could probably find a lot of hotel's advertising in Jewish newspapers, so keep an eye out (I think more around Pesach time).
Title: Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on October 31, 2012, 08:04:01 AM
One thing I can tell you is that with Israeli management you're (almost) guaranteed that there will be more than enough food.
A far as area's, there's plenty of activities wherever you go and the Alpes are beautiful everywhere.
I have personally stayed in a few places in the Alpes over the years and if you have questions about a place that you're considering I'll be happy to help.
Btw you could probably find a lot of hotel's advertising in Jewish newspapers, so keep an eye out (I think more around Pesach time).

Thanks so much. Would you happen to know what the pricing is approx? How much is a room in one of these places going to cost me b'erech?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mena613 on October 31, 2012, 04:54:06 PM

Keep one thing in mind when traveling to Switzerland, Its the wrong place if your looking not to spend much !!

You might be able to go to a neighbor country with similar activities and views for easily 30% cheaper.

If you do travel with a whole 'large' group to Switzerland, contact the Jewish Grocery store on the border to Switzerland
and try and arrange with him delivery of food since youl be SHOCKED with the prices of meat and basic foods in Switzerland
and this grocer offers about 50% cheaper goods
Title: Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: creditor on October 31, 2012, 05:41:50 PM
Keep one thing in mind when traveling to Switzerland, Its the wrong place if your looking not to spend much !!

You might be able to go to a neighbor country with similar activities and views for easily 30% cheaper.

If you do travel with a whole 'large' group to Switzerland, contact the Jewish Grocery store on the border to Switzerland
and try and arrange with him delivery of food since youl be SHOCKED with the prices of meat and basic foods in Switzerland
and this grocer offers about 50% cheaper goods
Italy, France, Germany, or Lichtenstein ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mena613 on October 31, 2012, 05:52:05 PM

more like austria and france, depends if you are planning to come in the summer or winter !
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on October 31, 2012, 05:56:37 PM
more like austria and france, depends if you are planning to come in the summer or winter !
re-read his question and bolding.
Looks like you know the Schreibers too well...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on November 01, 2012, 08:55:38 AM
Thanks Mena for your advice but as someone who has been going to switzerland for the past six years I know my budget and I usually stock up french side of Basel but it is always good to have spar to buy milk and yogurts for the kids. So what I am looking for is some place close to Davos/Klosters but not in the kugel
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mena613 on November 01, 2012, 12:23:53 PM
Ill ask around about a place near Klosters or Davos,
How long does it take you to drive to St. Louice from Davos ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shaya on November 01, 2012, 03:33:51 PM
Thanks
Around the three hour mark.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yare on November 01, 2012, 04:16:58 PM
i'm looking for a nice area of the alps where i'll have a minyan nearby for shabbos.  i see there's a kosher hotel (and i assume minyan) in villars sur ollon  and the one in italy.    is there anything near chamonix?   any other parts of the alps (austria)?    this is for the winter.   
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: dealer on November 04, 2012, 05:06:41 PM
Anyone has an idea where I could rent a cellphone in the Holy Land for use in Switzerland? with decent rates?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on November 04, 2012, 05:30:09 PM
Anyone has an idea where I could rent a cellphone in the Holy Land for use in Switzerland? with decent rates?
buy there its very cheap
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 04, 2012, 06:24:55 PM
Anyone has an idea where I could rent a cellphone in the Holy Land for use in Switzerland? with decent rates?

AHEM...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Blazer on November 19, 2012, 11:11:00 AM
I'm going to be in Zurich for a 5 hour stopover  8am till 1 PM, I have a BIL that lives in Zurich, anyone has any idea how long it takes to get from when you get off the plane to get to Zurich, and what are the differant ways to do it. (if 5 hours is at all enough).
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 19, 2012, 12:10:03 PM
I'm going to be in Zurich for a 5 hour stopover  8am till 1 PM, I have a BIL that lives in Zurich, anyone has any idea how long it takes to get from when you get off the plane to get to Zurich, and what are the differant ways to do it. (if 5 hours is at all enough).

Probably around 30-35 minutes from the door of the plane to Bahnoff Strausse. The train is 10 minutes and runs at least every ten minutes. Leaves from inside the terminal. Just walk down to the lake 15-min each way and it will be well worth the effort.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Blazer on November 19, 2012, 12:21:54 PM
Probably around 30-35 minutes from the door of the plane to Bahnoff Strausse. The train is 10 minutes and runs at least every ten minutes. Leaves from inside the terminal. Just walk down to the lake 15-min each way and it will be well worth the effort.
Whats Bahnoff Strausse, is that near IRG.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 19, 2012, 12:23:05 PM
Whats Bahnoff Strausse, is that near IRG.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahnhofstrasse
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 19, 2012, 12:24:17 PM
Whats Bahnoff Strausse, is that near IRG.

G(M)IYF. :)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Blazer on November 19, 2012, 12:26:06 PM
G(M)IYF. :)
?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on November 19, 2012, 03:41:03 PM
Anyone has an idea where I could rent a cellphone in the Holy Land for use in Switzerland? with decent rates?
When I was there there were 2 very cheap international pre-paid SIMs. One was called Lebara and the other I don't remember.

http://www.lebara.ch/?isoCode=en_GB
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 21, 2012, 04:56:17 PM
?

Google (Maps) Is Your Friend
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on December 05, 2012, 12:34:28 PM
I'll admit I did not read this thread-

Any suggestions or advice on what to do during a 5 hour layover is Zurich from 7:55AM to 12:45PM Tomorrow? Is that enough time to take a train into the city and get some breakfast or see any sites?
Title: Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 05, 2012, 12:35:44 PM
I'll admit I did not read this thread-

Any suggestions or advice on what to do during a 5 hour layover is Zurich from 7:55AM to 12:45PM Tomorrow? Is that enough time to take a train into the city and get some breakfast or see any sites?
Yeah, take train to end. You're two blocks from the water, just walk around, beautiful area
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 05, 2012, 12:36:03 PM
I'll admit I did not read this thread-

Any suggestions or advice on what to do during a 5 hour layover is Zurich from 7:55AM to 12:45PM Tomorrow? Is that enough time to take a train into the city and get some breakfast or see any sites?
Yes. Forget breakfast. Take train from inside terminal to Zurich Central Station. It takes <10 min.

From station, exit onto Bahnoff Strausse and walk down to the lake. Sing a song and turn around.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on December 05, 2012, 12:56:23 PM
Yeah, take train to end. You're two blocks from the water, just walk around, beautiful area
Thanks!
Yes. Forget breakfast. Take train from inside terminal to Zurich Central Station. It takes <10 min.

From station, exit onto Bahnoff Strausse and walk down to the lake. Sing a song and turn around.
LOL! Sounds great. Thanks!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on December 10, 2012, 12:43:49 PM
1 is a week to much to be in Switzerland?

  2 where is the best place to be for shabes

  3 where should I visit and where should I stay

  4 what the best way to get around?
 
  I am planning to fly from NYC in a few weeks so thanks for your great help   

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 10, 2012, 12:45:44 PM
Did you pick Switzerland out of a hat? Why would you want to go there if you have no clue what you would do?
What do you like to do-that may people advise you.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on December 10, 2012, 11:01:28 PM
i like places with nice views
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 10, 2012, 11:13:27 PM
Do you like to hike or relax in the presence of those nice views?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on December 12, 2012, 05:11:33 PM
Yes. Forget breakfast. Take train from inside terminal to Zurich Central Station. It takes <10 min.

From station, exit onto Bahnoff Strausse and walk down to the lake. Sing a song and turn around.
Thanks again! The lake was beautiful! When I got back to the airport I found out the delight was delayed 3 hours :( could have went to Lucerne. Oh well.
Title: Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on December 12, 2012, 06:03:37 PM
Thanks again! The lake was beautiful! When I got back to the airport I found out the delight was delayed 3 hours :( could have went to Lucerne. Oh well.

What did you sing?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on December 12, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
What did you sing?
funny you should ask. We made a tune to this
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on December 12, 2012, 06:16:51 PM
funny you should ask. We made a tune to this

Deep...
Title: Re: Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 12, 2012, 07:07:15 PM
funny you should ask. We made a tune to this

"We"?

Also... who wrote that?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on December 12, 2012, 07:16:09 PM
"We"?

Also... who wrote that?
I came with friends...

Idk who wrote that it was at the dock and I knew I had to sing a song so I picked that one.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 12, 2012, 07:43:23 PM
I came with friends...

Idk who wrote that it was at the dock and I knew I had to sing a song so I picked that one.

Aha. I see.

What tune did you use? An existing one, or you made one up? ;)

ETA: found the lyrics: http://www.lyricsreg.com/lyrics/bastille/Bad+Blood/
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 07, 2013, 02:14:41 PM
going to be in Switzerland form 02/03 till 02/07 .

where is the best place to eat and which yiddish hotel will be open this time of year ?

i am planing to stay in arose or st mortiz as per  dans deals forums

any help with other stuff would be appreciate thanks .
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on January 08, 2013, 04:01:02 PM
Thinking of sending a family member and his wife to Switzerland just for one night (2 days) from Israel.
Would Vienna be a better choice?

What could they do there now in the winter for the day?

I'm just looking for somewhere they can have a nice time, see some pretty scenery and have  a good meal or two.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 08, 2013, 05:44:26 PM
going to be in Switzerland form 02/03 till 02/07 .

where is the best place to eat and which yiddish hotel will be open this time of year ?

i am planing to stay in arose or st mortiz as per  dans deals forums

any help with other stuff would be appreciate thanks .

Best place to eat... where? In Zurich?

As for hotel... the Metropol in Arosa is decent. A bit old (like my wife says, "it's like honeymooning in Bubby's house"), but the food is good, and the heimishe atmosphere is wonderful. A bit expensive, though - the prices you see on their site are per person, not per room.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 09, 2013, 01:21:28 PM
Has any one been in st mortiz if yes where did u stay and is it hard to get around if you dont have a car ?

and which hotel is near the yiddish hotel in arose if i wont to stay somware elso ?

and how much about will cost me all the train rides and i get somone who live there to buy be a card  will it be much cheper ?

thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on January 09, 2013, 03:43:04 PM
http://www.levinarosa.com/
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 09, 2013, 03:50:09 PM
Has any one been in st mortiz if yes where did u stay and is it hard to get around if you dont have a car ?

I've been several times. Nobody brings a car there. Easy to get around with trains.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: L'Chaim on January 10, 2013, 03:29:34 PM
Thinking of sending a family member and his wife to Switzerland just for one night (2 days) from Israel.
Would Vienna be a better choice?

What could they do there now in the winter for the day?

I'm just looking for somewhere they can have a nice time, see some pretty scenery and have  a good meal or two.
Both Vienna and Zurich are between half an hour to an hour from the Alps.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 13, 2013, 09:58:11 AM
and which hotel is near the yiddish hotel in arose if i wont to stay somware elso ?

Word to the wise: don't count on finding some cheap hotel nearby and going to the Metropol just for the food, as they will charge a bloody fortune for a food-only package, and you won't save any money. The only people who do that are the really, REALLY wealthy folks who can afford to stay in the Tschuggen Grand Hotel (http://en.tschuggen.ch/) (or similar) for a king's ransom, PLUS pay for taxis multiple times per day to and from the Metropol and like $100 per person, per meal.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: robi on January 13, 2013, 10:02:19 AM
Has any one been in st mortiz if yes where did u stay and is it hard to get around if you dont have a car ?

and which hotel is near the yiddish hotel in arose if i wont to stay somware elso ?

and how much about will cost me all the train rides and i get somone who live there to buy be a card  will it be much cheper ?

thanks
when I was in st moritz I rented an apartment that came with a ski pass, I got it on the official st moritz site, and called the hotel to bargain. As PG said, there's absolutely no need for a car. And we took the bus daily to the edelweiss to daven, Didn't eat or stay there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Blazer on January 13, 2013, 07:31:25 PM
Hi,
I need to buy a Bar Mitzvah present for someone living in Zurich, can someone PM me of the Seforim stores in Zurich (I'm assuming there are seforim stores there) and their phone #.
Thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 13, 2013, 07:36:40 PM
Hi,
I need to buy a Bar Mitzvah present for someone living in Zurich, can someone PM me of the Seforim stores in Zurich (I'm assuming there are seforim stores there) and their phone #.
Thanks

http://www.booksnbagels.com/eng/
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 13, 2013, 08:22:56 PM
when I was in st moritz I rented an apartment that came with a ski pass, I got it on the official st moritz site, and called the hotel to bargain. As PG said, there's absolutely no need for a car. And we took the bus daily to the edelweiss to daven, Didn't eat or stay there.
Edelweiss closed down
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: robi on January 13, 2013, 08:39:41 PM
Edelweiss closed down
wow, didn't know. This was 5 years ago
Title: Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 14, 2013, 02:04:02 AM
Hi,
I need to buy a Bar Mitzvah present for someone living in Zurich, can someone PM me of the Seforim stores in Zurich (I'm assuming there are seforim stores there) and their phone #.
Thanks

Another option:
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 19, 2013, 09:16:08 PM
will my galxey s3 work in Switzerland ?
Title: Re: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on January 19, 2013, 09:24:47 PM
will my galxey s3 work in Switzerland ?

Which carrier?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 19, 2013, 09:30:47 PM
sprint
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on January 19, 2013, 09:44:10 PM
On sprint service? It should according to their site but last time I was there I had no service.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 20, 2013, 03:27:23 AM
will my galxey s3 work in Switzerland ?

Wow, another new phone. They come out so fast these days... ::)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Deals Fan on January 31, 2013, 03:06:28 PM
Hi. I may be going to Switzerland before Pesach. I was wondering- is the weather there nice at that tine of year? Also, is there a nice hotel near a shul? My options for hotels were the Sheraton Zurich, Marriot Zurich, Renisance Zurich or the Park Hyatt. I was thinking of staying over Shabbat if thats an option...Thanks!!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 31, 2013, 03:22:49 PM
Hi. I may be going to Switzerland before Pesach. I was wondering- is the weather there nice at that tine of year? Also, is there a nice hotel near a shul? My options for hotels were the Sheraton Zurich, Marriot Zurich, Renisance Zurich or the Park Hyatt. I was thinking of staying over Shabbat if thats an option...Thanks!!
PH is the nicest and about 10 minutes from the shul.

Weather is about the same as it is in US/Israel that time of the year.

Of course staying Shabbos is an option, there's a flight before, and theres a flight after. Not sure what your question is.

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mena613 on January 31, 2013, 03:46:55 PM

Stay in the Hayett, gorgeous hotel very central, 10min walk from the shul, and easy to find shabbos meals around there...
Weather can be beautiful in march - april..
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 31, 2013, 07:44:08 PM
PH is the nicest and about 10 minutes from the shul.

Weather is about the same as it is in US/Israel that time of the year.

Of course staying Shabbos is an option, there's a flight before, and theres a flight after. Not sure what your question is.

I'm guessing he means: is the hotel Shabbos-friendly, or are there electric locks/sensors/whatever everywhere? Is there anywhere to buy Shabbos food/eat out on Shabbos, if you don't know anyone there to invite yourself to?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mena613 on February 03, 2013, 01:24:01 PM

Just ask and Ill find you a place for shabbos !! Some very friendly and hospitable families live around that area !
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on February 03, 2013, 06:08:56 PM
Nice
Just ask and Ill find you a place for shabbos !! Some very friendly and hospitable families live around that area !
You can buy a full Shabbos meal in Zurich. If you need help finding a caterer PM me.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on February 04, 2013, 12:31:28 AM
For the park hyatt hotel, how far is it from a shul and any kosher restaurants?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 04, 2013, 12:32:33 AM
For the park hyatt hotel, how far is it from a shul and any kosher restaurants?
10 minutes walking.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 04, 2013, 07:08:58 AM
10 minutes walking.

+1

Also, public transport is amazing. One tram (sometimes maybe 2) can get you to virtually any Jewish establishment, and their punctuality is razor-sharp.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mena613 on February 05, 2013, 03:09:51 AM
NiceYou can buy a full Shabbos meal in Zurich. If you need help finding a caterer PM me.

And if you need help finding a mortgage to pay for the caterer PM me ;)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on February 07, 2013, 06:45:51 PM
Mind me asking, what shul and restaurant is 10 minutes walking from the Park Hyatt
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on February 07, 2013, 08:07:35 PM
And if you need help finding a mortgage to pay for the caterer PM me ;)
I was referring to buying food from a caterer which is usually reasonably price, not requiring anyone to take out a mortgage :-)

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on February 12, 2013, 10:14:42 AM
So I'm planning a trip to Zurich in mid March. What do I have to know about bringing in food, (I'll be there from friday 7am till monday 2pm). I'll be staying in the park hyatt.

It was mentioned before about a store in Germany to get meat and food, how much cheaper is it and how do I get there (if its worth the trip to get food). Also, can I not bring in meat for my trip?

Anything else I need to know?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 13, 2013, 06:07:30 PM
So I'm planning a trip to Zurich in mid March. What do I have to know about bringing in food, (I'll be there from friday 7am till monday 2pm). I'll be staying in the park hyatt.

It was mentioned before about a store in Germany to get meat and food, how much cheaper is it and how do I get there (if its worth the trip to get food). Also, can I not bring in meat for my trip?

Anything else I need to know?

Why Germany?! Is there a shortage of kosher food in ZRH that I missed?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mena613 on February 13, 2013, 06:41:41 PM

Not worth it to travel the 30min to Germany for a few days worth of food !

Its more like a wholesale market..
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on February 13, 2013, 08:40:40 PM
So whats with bringing meat into zurich. Am i not allowed to?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on February 14, 2013, 12:45:51 AM
So whats with bringing meat into zurich. Am i not allowed to?
Officially not, I must have brought into Switzerland in my lifetime 10 whole cows! Never got stopped or caught and just about every Jew brings in as much as he possibly can.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on February 14, 2013, 02:07:59 AM
If someone needs a shabbes meal in zuerich pm me, guests always welcome
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on February 20, 2013, 03:16:11 PM
Is there enough to do in Zurich for 3 days?

Sending some relatives from TLV to Zurich and Venice (as of now, though I am open to suggestions)
from a Sunday to Thursday night.


There's a flight arriving in ZRH at 8:10 in the morn so they have the day.

How would split up this trip?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 20, 2013, 03:22:41 PM
Is there enough to do in Zurich for 3 days?

Sending some relatives from TLV to Zurich and Venice (as of now, though I am open to suggestions)
from a Sunday to Thursday night.


There's a flight arriving in ZRH at 8:10 in the morn so they have the day.

How would split up this trip?
You don't have the day on the 05:30 flight, you have to leave your home at 2-3am

I wouldn't stay in Zurich for 3 days, but an easy train to St Moritz or such is great.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 20, 2013, 07:17:49 PM
They can also take a train to Lucerne for a day.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: DevoraK on February 27, 2013, 04:47:54 AM
I have an 8 hr stopover in Zurich in mid march. Im flying with my hub and 10 month old baby. What should we do?
I already read through the WHOLE forum (believe it or not) and came out with this basic plan: buy a daypass or a zurichcard - which one? and go to the  Bahnhofstrasse and take a walk down to the lake (are there any sites nearby to see?) I would like to take a boat trip, any advice how long?
And what else?? Is there time to go up a mountain?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 27, 2013, 09:39:38 AM
I don't think 8 hours is enough time to go to Lucerne.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 27, 2013, 09:48:00 AM
I don't think 8 hours is enough time to go to Lucerne.

+1

Just the time spent on trains and the boat is already 5 hours. Factor in delays and wait times, and you have very little wiggle room.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: DevoraK on February 27, 2013, 09:56:32 AM
So what else should I do in Zurich?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on February 27, 2013, 12:21:29 PM
So what else should I do in Zurich?
Visit H&M. You'll understand once you walk from the train station to the lake... (be sure to check your flight for delays, I did not and went back to the airport to find out I had another 4 hours)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: L'Chaim on February 27, 2013, 04:14:27 PM
I have an 8 hr stopover in Zurich in mid march. Im flying with my hub and 10 month old baby. What should we do?
I already read through the WHOLE forum (believe it or not) and came out with this basic plan: buy a daypass or a zurichcard - which one? and go to the  Bahnhofstrasse and take a walk down to the lake (are there any sites nearby to see?) I would like to take a boat trip, any advice how long?
And what else?? Is there time to go up a mountain?

 ??? :o :o

I don't believe it.

As of now:
DevoraK's Total Time Spent Online: 3 hours and 43 minutes
DDF Total Posts: 412736
=more than 30 posts per second
=not physically possible.



Unless of course you meant thread...  :P
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: DevoraK on February 27, 2013, 04:41:06 PM
OK your right, I meant thread.... But how do you know how much time I spent on DDF? I could have read it without signing in....

Well now can you help me?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: L'Chaim on February 27, 2013, 04:48:57 PM
OK your right, I meant thread.... But how do you know how much time I spent on DDF? I could have read it without signing in....

Well now can you help me?
I thought of that but never mind, that's my sense of humor.

I was never in Zurich (yet), but I can recommend you should try the bakery there (they sell it in the stores).
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on February 27, 2013, 06:15:08 PM
Suggestions for a sim card for my phone while I'm going to be there. I'm going next week for four days so I would like to be able to get it when I get there or if possibly order one online so I'll have when I land. TIA
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on February 27, 2013, 06:37:29 PM
Suggestions for a sim card for my phone while I'm going to be there. I'm going next week for four days so I would like to be able to get it when I get there or if possibly order one online so I'll have when I land. TIA
http://www.lebara.ch/
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on February 28, 2013, 04:12:17 PM
http://www.lebara.ch/

So I was looking at the website, If I am going to be calling and texting America, do I go with the Classic or Simply plan? Also, how long should it take for a free sim to be delivered if I have it shipped to the PH?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on February 28, 2013, 04:31:12 PM
So I was looking at the website, If I am going to be calling and texting America, do I go with the Classic or Simply plan? Also, how long should it take for a free sim to be delivered if I have it shipped to the PH?
you can buy it at local post offices or electronics (intertronic) or mobile stores (mobile zone etc.) which usually you can find one of the above for sure, at a train station.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 03, 2013, 05:34:14 PM
Besides Davos where else would one stay in Southern Switzerland to be close to kosher food and Shuls ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on March 03, 2013, 05:36:23 PM
Besides Davos where else would one stay in Southern Switzerland to be close to kosher food and Shuls ?
Arosa and St Moritz
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 03, 2013, 05:37:51 PM
Arosa and St Moritz


Which one is the prettiest?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on March 03, 2013, 05:40:46 PM
St moritz is nicest, but no minyan anymore, unless high season, like summer vacation

--------

8 hours is enough for lucerne, will take you a hour to get to lake from zrh airport, so you can take a boat tour or so, also on the train ride, you get to see part of country... Lucerne is nicer then zurich, but if you want less stress and not be under time pressure, walk down bahnhofstrasse and take boat tour on lake zuerich
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 03, 2013, 05:46:03 PM
St moritz is nicest, but no minyan anymore, unless high season, like summer vacation



Thanks. Davos it is I guess.


Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 03, 2013, 10:28:05 PM
St moritz is nicest, but no minyan anymore, unless high season, like summer vacation

Do you know where the minyan is nowadays?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on March 04, 2013, 01:52:39 AM
Davos also only has a minyan during high season...
Arosa has a minyan if the hotel is open...
Minyan in st moritz is always, somewere else, depends who gives his apartement for use...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on March 04, 2013, 06:52:25 PM
I am going to be in Zurich this weekend, staying in the PH, what is my best options for Friday night dinner and Sat Lunch?

Also, I am most likely going to go to the Israeli cultural center for davening, anything I need to know or is there another shul nearby also? Thanks.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: L'Chaim on March 05, 2013, 01:26:18 AM
I am going to be in Zurich this weekend, staying in the PH, what is my best options for Friday night dinner and Sat Lunch?

If someone needs a shabbes meal in zuerich pm me, guests always welcome
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 13, 2013, 06:18:17 PM
Where would minyanim be in Davos exactly? I've tried to look up shuls but didn't get too far.

 I am booking my friends in the Hilton Davos ( gotta burn em while I can ) and wanted to know if that was close enough to minyanim and kosher food.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on March 15, 2013, 12:46:28 AM
Anything worth buying in ZRH during a 5 hr connection?
Thomy I can't bring, because they won't let it through security (connecting flight = bags checked in through destination).
Most kosher food made in Switzerland is cheaper E"Y or USA. 
So is there anything unique there, that's either not sold anywhere else, or is cheaper there?

TIA
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 15, 2013, 12:48:05 AM
Buy a case of Thomy.
Check it as an extra bag in ZRH.
Sell it for millions in the US and retire.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on March 15, 2013, 02:08:04 AM
Buy a case of Thomy.
Check it as an extra bag in ZRH.
Sell it for millions in the US and retire.
:)) :))
This is actually on the way from the USA...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 15, 2013, 02:12:26 AM
:)) :))
This is actually on the way from the USA...

Nu, so modify it a bit:

 
Buy a case of Thomy.
Check it as an extra bag in ZRH.
Sell it for millions in the US Israel and retire.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on March 15, 2013, 12:16:34 PM
Buy a case of Thomy.
Check it as an extra bag in ZRH.
Sell it for millions in the US and retire.
Nu, so modify it a bit:
Seriously, is that stuff really worth so much to people?!
Y'think it's really that much better than Hellmans and Kraft? ;)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 15, 2013, 12:22:21 PM
Seriously, is that stuff really worth so much to people?!
Y'think it's really that much better than Hellmans and Kraft? ;)

I actually think it reminds me more of miracle whip.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: judahk88 on March 15, 2013, 01:10:16 PM
Buy a case of Thomy.
Is this the Mayonaisse that comes in a toothpaste like tube?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 15, 2013, 01:34:01 PM
Is this the Mayonaisse that comes in a toothpaste like tube?

Yup. https://www.google.com/search?q=thomy+mayonnaise&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=fFtDUY-iLsmzyAGQ1YGgBQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=799
Title: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: A3 on March 15, 2013, 01:39:20 PM
Hehe. My bro was just there. The mayo was my request. We live in diff states. He put them in a fed ex box for me as soon as he got home.

Just two tubes.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on March 15, 2013, 01:57:13 PM
Yup. https://www.google.com/search?q=thomy+mayonnaise&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=fFtDUY-iLsmzyAGQ1YGgBQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=799
In the image results, there are bottles too.  Are they the same thing vis-a-vis kashrus, taste and price?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on March 16, 2013, 10:36:47 PM
In the image results, there are bottles too.  Are they the same thing vis-a-vis kashrus, taste and price?
Yes. Used to get them in pales!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 16, 2013, 10:39:07 PM
It would not be too far off to say that it's worth flying to ZRH (or at least connecting there on the way to/from Israel or Europe) just to pick some up.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on March 16, 2013, 10:46:42 PM
Yes. Used to get them in pales!
lol!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 16, 2013, 10:54:18 PM
Yes. Used to get them in pales!

Pales?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mena613 on March 17, 2013, 05:41:28 AM

things to pick up whilst in Zurich,

Secret bank account documents
watches
chocolate
Thommy mayonnaise
Kukuck watch
best meat you will ever have in your life!
Army knife !
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 17, 2013, 06:01:53 AM
Meh

Watches are cheaper in HK & Dubai
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 17, 2013, 11:00:54 AM
things to pick up whilst in Zurich,

Secret bank account documents
watches
chocolate
Thommy mayonnaise
Kukuck watch
best meat you will ever have in your life!
Army knife !

-The banks will turn you in these days.
-The watches are cheaper elsewhere.
-You can get their chocolate elsewhere as well.
-Thommy, this is true.
-I don't think they even allow shchita in Switzerland?
-Army knife will be cheaper on Amazon...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 17, 2013, 11:59:39 AM
-I don't think they even allow shchita in Switzerland?

Dunno which side of the fence they're on these days about that - but Switzerland definitely has some of the best meat products around. Some types of "aufschnit" (special deli meat preparations) they sell there are out of this world.

Another thing I wold add to his list is cheese - the sell these huge wheels of Swiss cheese that I haven't found anything quite like anywhere else. And if you know where to buy them (hint: not the local supermarket), they can be quite reasonably priced, too.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on March 17, 2013, 12:13:57 PM
Pales?
Buckets.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on March 17, 2013, 12:15:47 PM
Dunno which side of the fence they're on these days about that - but Switzerland definitely has some of the best meat products around. Some types of "aufschnit" (special deli meat preparations) they sell there are out of this world.

Another thing I wold add to his list is cheese - the sell these huge wheels of Swiss cheese that I haven't found anything quite like anywhere else. And if you know where to buy them (hint: not the local supermarket), they can be quite reasonably priced, too.
+1. If I may add the bakery has some great stuff as well.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on March 17, 2013, 01:58:29 PM
-The banks will turn you in these days.
-The watches are cheaper elsewhere.
-You can get their chocolate elsewhere as well.
-Thommy, this is true.
-I don't think they even allow shchita in Switzerland?
-Army knife will be cheaper on Amazon...

The knife is a couple dollars cheaper only according to my seeings and also depending which one you are looking at. What   I did like is that someplace are able to engrave words in the knife which I didnt find online. And the engraving was done good not cheaply
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 17, 2013, 02:17:45 PM
Buckets.

Ah, pails. ::)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on March 17, 2013, 03:22:40 PM
So in a 5 hour connection, anything interesting besides Erikastrasse and BanhoffStrasse (incl. lake)?  Or that itself should take up all the time?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 17, 2013, 03:38:57 PM
So in a 5 hour connection, anything interesting besides Erikastrasse and BanhoffStrasse (incl. lake)?  Or that itself should take up all the time?

That.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 18, 2013, 02:16:27 PM
Started Wiki
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2013, 02:22:34 PM
Started Wiki
Great, added some info.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on March 18, 2013, 03:50:19 PM
I'm surprised you left out Bahnhofstrasse
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2013, 03:52:32 PM
I'm surprised you left out Bahnhofstrasse
It's a wiki.
If you have what to share then add it.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on March 18, 2013, 04:06:31 PM
It's a wiki.
If you have what to share then add it.
My apologies.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2013, 04:10:29 PM
My apologies.
No need to apologize, I didn't mean it in a bad way :)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on March 18, 2013, 05:17:00 PM
-The banks will turn you in these days.
-The watches are cheaper elsewhere.
-You can get their chocolate elsewhere as well.
-Thommy, this is true.
-I don't think they even allow shchita in Switzerland?
-Army knife will be cheaper on Amazon...

FWIW they sell Thomy mayonnaise at most kosher grocery stores in London, for the same price, if not cheaper than ZRH.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 18, 2013, 08:57:25 PM
Added some restaurants, as well as info on Arosa.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 18, 2013, 06:51:58 PM
Booked a reservation for someone arriving (from TLV) to Zurich Sunday afternoon and leaving Thurs am/pm (haven't decided yet)

They are taking the train to Davos when they arrive and will be there Sunday night and Monday night - Should they go back to Zurich Tuesday already and spend some time there? Lucerne? Other ideas? Etc? OR should they stay in Davos until Wed and head back then?

Any ideas on how to piece the trip together would be appreciated!

They want to have time to see beautiful places and enjoy. Nothing too complicated.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: fdg9 on May 10, 2013, 02:29:31 PM
I read through the thread here and have come to the conclusion that 7-8 days in Switzerland may be too much.  In that, I can get a healthy dose of lucerne, Zurich and st. moritz in about 4 days. If I have 8 days on the ground in Europe and spend 4 days in Switzerland, where else, besides Paris, do you recommend I visit during those 4 days. I hope to go mid August...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on May 10, 2013, 02:32:59 PM
I read through the thread here and have come to the conclusion that 7-8 days in Switzerland may be too much.  In that, I can get a healthy dose of lucerne, Zurich and st. moritz in about 4 days. If I have 8 days on the ground in Europe and spend 4 days in Switzerland, where else, besides Paris, do you recommend I visit during those 4 days. I hope to go mid August...
Venice. Duh :))
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chazan brezch on May 23, 2013, 06:43:43 PM
Any advice on kosher food in Geneva?

Also, anyone stay in Geneva over Shabbos?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Side incomer on June 11, 2013, 01:16:01 PM
What will be the closest heimishe community to interlake?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on June 11, 2013, 01:37:45 PM
Booked a reservation for someone arriving (from TLV) to Zurich Sunday afternoon and leaving Thurs am/pm (haven't decided yet)

They are taking the train to Davos when they arrive and will be there Sunday night and Monday night - Should they go back to Zurich Tuesday already and spend some time there? Lucerne? Other ideas? Etc? OR should they stay in Davos until Wed and head back then?

Any ideas on how to piece the trip together would be appreciated!

They want to have time to see beautiful places and enjoy. Nothing too complicated.
I'm not going to comment on staying in Davos or not, but if you do head back to Zurich/Lucerne area there are many nice places around Lucerne like Pilatus, Rigi and Titlis.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: nocknock on June 11, 2013, 07:22:58 PM
Which one is nicer?

Arosa or Davos (Switzerland)?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 15, 2013, 06:56:54 PM
What will be the closest heimishe community to interlake?

Are you sure you got that name right?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on June 15, 2013, 10:29:24 PM
Are you sure you got that name right?
Interlaken
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on June 15, 2013, 11:17:07 PM
Interlaken
If its interlaken Brene is the closest but no kosher restaurant. For all hiemishe needs Zurich is the closest.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: nafnaf12 on June 17, 2013, 12:58:01 AM
Saint moritz is by far the nicest I've ever seen
I used to go every summer. 
But now the kosher hotel closed :-[
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 17, 2013, 06:28:34 PM
There is a kosher hotel in maloja, about 15 min Drive. So you should be able to eat meals there.
Normally there is a organized minyan in summer and the bakery sells kosher bread, as well as kosher Products. That only in high season, like month of aw
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: nafnaf12 on June 19, 2013, 01:18:40 AM
The kampinski hotel might have a kosher kitchen this year
But I'm sure it will be at Least double the price since its a 4* hitel
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 19, 2013, 04:11:36 AM
St Moritz the nicest ?  :o

Speaking of view/nature, Arosa  already scores way better.

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: creditor on June 19, 2013, 06:01:34 AM
St Moritz the nicest ?  :o

Speaking of view/nature, Arosa  already scores way better.
huh? aroza hasn't got the lake view plus the St. Moritz area [pontresena, sills, sipvaplana, jullier pass....] is incredible.
I personally think the vallis area is the nicest
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 19, 2013, 06:15:12 AM
huh? aroza hasn't got the lake view plus the St. Moritz area [pontresena, sills, sipvaplana, jullier pass....] is incredible.
I personally think the vallis area is the nicest

Wallis, is the nicest correct, a,d most nice weather.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on July 04, 2013, 01:48:54 AM
I've read online there is a kosher restaurant in Davos during the summer. Is this located in a hotel ? Anyone have any more info on it? Or any other kosher food in Davos?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on July 04, 2013, 02:56:29 AM
I've read online there is a kosher restaurant in Davos during the summer. Is this located in a hotel ? Anyone have any more info on it? Or any other kosher food in Davos?
when I was there it was in the synagogue building. Just follow the crowd you'll find it easily.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 04, 2013, 06:27:30 AM
There is 2 kosher hotels this summer in Davos, so I am sure one will let you eat there if you pay, sont think there is a restaurant

St. Moritz-Arosa, St. Moritz wins by miles. Nicer views, nicer lake, nicer mountains around and the town itself is much nicer. Style and class I will not even mention
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on July 04, 2013, 09:33:29 AM
There is 2 kosher hotels this summer in Davos, so I am sure one will let you eat there if you pay, sont think there is a restaurant

St. Moritz-Arosa, St. Moritz wins by miles. Nicer views, nicer lake, nicer mountains around and the town itself is much nicer. Style and class I will not even mention

What is the second hotel? I've already contacted the Levin one.
   The hotel I am sending my family to is offering to get us some kosher products for breakfast.
If one of the hotels will send out a meal that would be great. If not I would like to direct them to a market selling kosher products.
Any advice?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on July 15, 2013, 07:49:24 AM
How much ( approx ) does the train from Zurich to Davos cost? My internet on my phone isn't working well at the moment.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on July 15, 2013, 07:55:09 AM
How much ( approx ) does the train from Zurich to Davos cost? My internet on my phone isn't working well at the moment.
Arosa is abt 55 frank
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on October 16, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
Any updates on ski areas that have kosher food
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: abdassie on October 20, 2013, 05:01:24 PM
I will be in Zurich from wednesday to sunday at the end of december.
Please advise best places to go and stay?
Thank you
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on October 20, 2013, 05:31:18 PM

I will be in Zurich from wednesday to sunday at the end of december.
Please advise best places to go and stay?
Thank you

Read through the thread its mostly answered. Plus look at Trip Reports, and that should help you plan your trip. Have any other questions feel free to ask. I planned a trip Friday to monday going through this thread, pretty helpful.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: abdassie on October 20, 2013, 06:19:02 PM
Does anyone know of any kosher hotels that will be open Dec25-29?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on October 20, 2013, 08:05:38 PM
Does anyone know of any kosher hotels that will be open Dec25-29?

http://www.levinarosa.com/
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: abdassie on October 20, 2013, 09:15:36 PM
Any other hotels that have kosher food for shabbos? Also if I go to Arosa, does it make sense to stay there for 4 days or should I go somewhere else as well?
Thank you
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: abdassie on October 24, 2013, 09:18:02 PM
Anyone know which hotels are walking distance to Levine hotel in Arosa?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: E on November 26, 2013, 05:43:38 PM
12 hour stop in Zurich tomorrow, only have 2 hours to plan. Read Dan's trip report is Lucerne the best way to go? Also wouldn't mind being in shul for chanaka lighting any suggestions.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 26, 2013, 06:25:07 PM
12 hour stop in Zurich tomorrow, only have 2 hours to plan. Read Dan's trip report is Lucerne the best way to go? Also wouldn't mind being in shul for chanaka lighting any suggestions.
Yeah
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on November 26, 2013, 06:39:41 PM
12 hour stop in Zurich tomorrow, only have 2 hours to plan. Read Dan's trip report is Lucerne the best way to go? Also wouldn't mind being in shul for chanaka lighting any suggestions.
I would recommend taking a train to Engelberg/Titlis but that might be a drop tight with 12 hours. Another closer option is Pilatus that's near Luzern. Zurich might be you only option for candle lighting probably at mincha time at any shul there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on November 26, 2013, 06:48:10 PM
I would recommend taking a train to Engelberg/Titlis but that might be a drop tight with 12 hours. Another closer option is Pilatus that's near Luzern. Zurich might be you only option for candle lighting probably at mincha time at any shul there.

Pilatus is in Lucrne, mamesh walking distance to the famous Rav Kopelman's yeshiva (not really walking distance, but VERY close). Go to Pilatus, finish your day there, head to the yeshiva, light candles, take the train to ZRH, and you'll be a happy camper.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: E on November 26, 2013, 07:22:08 PM
Thanks! Gonna go to yeshiva there worked it out with someone who lives there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moshe90 on November 26, 2013, 11:19:32 PM

http://www.levinarosa.com/
le green hotel in crans Montana , it's rented out by Meir Klein (from Antwerp ) for 2 weeks ( from about dec 16 till jan2) for any info contact them by hotelmk@gmail.com
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on December 07, 2013, 11:31:39 PM
Do all the trains run normally on Dec 25th.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ygold on December 08, 2013, 05:20:05 PM
Any hotels in Zurich with points or frugal options?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on December 08, 2013, 05:26:05 PM
Any hotels in Zurich with points or frugal options?

Park Hyatt Zurich. PM me if you'd like to buy a free night award there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yare on December 08, 2013, 05:46:52 PM
Park Hyatt Zurich. PM me if you'd like to buy a free night award there.
lol
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ygold on December 08, 2013, 05:47:53 PM
lol

Thanks, I was thinking the same thing...
Title: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moshe90 on December 08, 2013, 08:15:25 PM
Do all the trains run normally on Dec 25th.
Trains can run on a different schedule on nationwide public holidays: 1 and 2 January, Good Friday, Easter Monday, Ascension, Whit Monday,
1 August,25 and 26 December.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moshe90 on December 16, 2013, 11:15:05 PM
What's the Cheapest way to receive us phone calls( number forwarded) while I'm there?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on December 17, 2013, 10:44:16 AM
Website for trains. YOu can check every day
www.sbb.ch
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moshe90 on December 17, 2013, 03:42:18 PM
Website for trains. YOu can check every day
www.sbb.ch
they have a great app for iphone-android
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on December 24, 2013, 08:27:13 AM
I just had some last minute change of plans and went from a 7 hour stop over in ZRH to a 12 hour.

It looks like it's suppose to rain in ZRH tomorrow.

Would this still be an option.
Quote
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne

Are all the restaurants in the wiki up to date?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on December 24, 2013, 08:38:04 AM
Wiki is not up to date. When i have a chance i will update it

Most Restaurants are closed tomorrow. Call them before

Lucerne can be done in bad weather, depends on your mood

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hocker on December 24, 2013, 09:16:21 AM
What's the Cheapest way to receive us phone calls( number forwarded) while I'm there?
Get a Lebara or LycaMobile SIM card. Forward the calls using callcentric.com
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on December 24, 2013, 09:22:12 AM
Wiki is not up to date. When i have a chance i will update it

Most Restaurants are closed tomorrow. Call them before

Lucerne can be done in bad weather, depends on your mood
Thanks.

Anything off the top of your head you think might be open tomorrow?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on December 24, 2013, 10:55:19 AM
I think, all closed

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on December 24, 2013, 11:28:24 AM
Bummer.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ygold on December 24, 2013, 01:08:47 PM
What's the cheapest way to make and receive phone calls to the US, Israel and other countries? I have an unlocked phone if that helps.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on December 24, 2013, 02:02:41 PM
What's the cheapest way to make and receive phone calls to the US, Israel and other countries? I have an unlocked phone if that helps.
You buy a SIM card there.
IME I found a cell store in the airports train station that sold SIM cards. I payed something like $20 and it was more than enough minutes for the week.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ygold on December 24, 2013, 02:20:32 PM
You buy a SIM card there.
IME I found a cell store in the airports train station that sold SIM cards. I payed something like $20 and it was more than enough minutes for the week.

Thanks,
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on January 04, 2014, 04:00:32 PM
Does anyone know any kosher hotel open in Feb. on the Swiss alps besides levin?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on January 04, 2014, 06:37:07 PM
Don't the levins run two hotels? There's one in arosa and forgot where they opened a second one. Also what's wrong with the metropol?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on January 04, 2014, 06:48:18 PM
They have a second one in davos in the summer maybe in winter too, metropol is not so wrong as i was there already (and its a bit old....)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on January 04, 2014, 06:50:49 PM
The location is great! Food was really homemade style and delicious. Its a really cozy hotel and you really get your moneys worth. Not sure why anybody would want to go anywhere else.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on January 04, 2014, 06:58:09 PM
The location is great! Food was really homemade style and delicious. Its a really cozy hotel and you really get your moneys worth. Not sure why anybody would want to go anywhere else.
Well i do see levine arosa a bit pricy
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on January 04, 2014, 07:06:26 PM
Which other hotel have you been to that's located in a popular spot in the prime season that has a minyan and proper kosher food that's cheaper than levin?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on January 06, 2014, 12:01:08 AM
Is there an option of eating in metropol hotel (obviously for pay) even if I'm not staying with them?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on January 06, 2014, 12:16:27 AM
Call or email them. Don't see why not but you never know.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on January 06, 2014, 08:02:21 AM
Im looking in to booking a vacation in Swiss at Crans Montana in Feb.

As im starting to search about the train taking me up from Zurich or Geneva i see that the dotn work in Feb. :o  is there a way how to get there?
Title: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moshe90 on January 08, 2014, 08:57:38 AM
Im looking in to booking a vacation in Swiss at Crans Montana in Feb.

As im starting to search about the train taking me up from Zurich or Geneva i see that the dotn work in Feb. :o  is there a way how to get there?
you can go toMeir klein's hotel in crans Montana,I was there (dec)for 10 days,food was heimish and delicious(great hechser) . The hotel name is Mirabeau hotel. He is open until the end of March.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on January 08, 2014, 09:18:09 AM
you can go toMeir klein's hotel in crans Montana,I was there (dec)for 10 days,food was heimish and delicious(great hechser) . The hotel name is Mirabeau hotel. He is open until the end of March.
Thanks would like to hear a bit more about it

How is the hotel? i know its not a modern style its on the alps, but is it decent and clean?
Does he give you included in the price a pass to use all stuff there ?
Is there a lot to do there?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moshe90 on January 08, 2014, 09:36:06 PM

Thanks would like to hear a bit more about it

How is the hotel? i know its not a modern style its on the alps, but is it decent and clean?
Does he give you included in the price a pass to use all stuff there ?
Is there a lot to do there?
It's a 3*** hotel , it's very clean.
No, the price didn't include the stuff there, but the ski rentals there will give you 15-20% off, for being in his hotel .
If you are planning to ski, the location there is one of the 6 famous places to ski

There is a nice lake there , casino, shopping, gorgeous panorama..


 
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on January 09, 2014, 12:14:14 AM
It's a 3*** hotel , it's very clean.
No, the price didn't include the stuff there, but the ski rentals there will give you 15-20% off, for being in his hotel .
If you are planning to ski, the location there is one of the 6 famous places to ski

There is a nice lake there , casino, shopping, gorgeous panorama..


 
Is the food included in the price of the rooms?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moshe90 on January 09, 2014, 12:17:06 AM

Is the food included in the price of the rooms?
yes
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on January 09, 2014, 12:20:16 AM
Thanks, that was quick! If you don't mind me asking how would you rate the beauty of this particular city? have you been to other cities in Switzerland to compare it to?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on January 09, 2014, 04:47:33 AM
It's a 3*** hotel , it's very clean.
No, the price didn't include the stuff there, but the ski rentals there will give you 15-20% off, for being in his hotel .
If you are planning to ski, the location there is one of the 6 famous places to ski

There is a nice lake there , casino, shopping, gorgeous panorama..


 
Thanks, dosent he give a pass for the chair lift etc´?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moshe90 on January 09, 2014, 08:09:11 PM
No, you can contact them

Hotelmk@gmail.com
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on February 02, 2014, 09:05:38 AM
Is the Park Suite suitable for 2 adults with 2 children? (Infant + Toddler)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PraiseCanada on March 27, 2014, 07:02:10 AM
I'm looking for a nice but inexpensive place to stay in Geneva for a one day-one night stopover trip.

Does anyone have any recommendations?

I've got some Starwood points (about 30,000) and an Amex Platinum, perhaps that helps me
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 27, 2014, 11:01:30 AM
I'm looking for a nice but inexpensive place to stay in Geneva for a one day-one night stopover trip.

You have to be more specific about your budget
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PraiseCanada on March 27, 2014, 12:46:13 PM
I'm looking for a nice but inexpensive place to stay in Geneva for a one day-one night stopover trip.

Does anyone have any recommendations?

I've got some Starwood points (about 30,000) and an Amex Platinum, perhaps that helps me
You have to be more specific about your budget

Up to $200
Title: Re: 12 hours in Zurich, what to do?
Post by: BISPRO on March 27, 2014, 06:56:57 PM
Favorite hub.

+1
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 27, 2014, 06:57:49 PM
Meh, MUC and ICN are much better.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: BISPRO on March 27, 2014, 07:00:46 PM
Meh, MUC and ICN are much better.

as far as traveling a lot to israel, i thing is the best option, just landed 2 hours ago.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 27, 2014, 07:04:39 PM
Meh, MUC and ICN are much better.
ICN over SIN?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 27, 2014, 07:10:05 PM
ICN over SIN?
I like ICN better but SIN is up there. Lounges are definitely better at SIN. Also ICN has bar none the best airport shopping.

as far as traveling a lot to israel, i thing is the best option, just landed 2 hours ago.
For Israel ZRH is definitely the best.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 27, 2014, 07:12:15 PM
Also ICN has bar none the best airport shopping.
I was very impressed with SIN shopping, how is ICN better? SIN is really an incredible airport.
Also duty-free in SIN was much better priced than ICN, there were actually some deals to be had.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 27, 2014, 07:14:30 PM
Only duty free LV in the world

Many designer shops which often have excellent sales.

Cheap alcohol, IIRC JWBL is $180 there.

Sin is only good for Apple products.

You have to walk a lot and it has a loud feeling, ICN feels better.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on April 27, 2014, 10:50:43 PM
Sorry for not reading through the whole thread, but can someone just direct me as to what's to be done on a 14hr ZRH stopover?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on April 28, 2014, 12:17:21 AM
Sorry for not reading through the whole thread, but can someone just direct me as to what's to be done on a 14hr stopover?
Titlis or Pilatus.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Armadillo on May 01, 2014, 07:35:21 PM
Titlis or Pilatus.
+1
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 01, 2014, 07:49:14 PM

Titlis or Pilatus.

I did pilatus during my weekend there. It was a very good trip and would do it again anytime
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: A3 on May 01, 2014, 08:09:05 PM
I did pilatus during my weekend there. It was a very good trip and would do it again anytime

You doing pilates?

Video to prove it?

;)

It's a nice trip
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 02, 2014, 01:37:00 AM
I did pilatus during my weekend there. It was a very good trip and would do it again anytime
Did you take a tour or do it on your own, and why?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 02, 2014, 04:38:13 AM

Did you take a tour or do it on your own, and why?

I was in Zurich Friday to Monday and when to Luzerne on Sunday on my own. Was a great trip
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on May 02, 2014, 07:31:27 AM
Didn't get to do anything as they were all closed just walked around
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 02, 2014, 08:35:22 AM
I was in Zurich Friday to Monday and when to Luzerne on Sunday on my own. Was a great trip
That's exactly when we'll be there. How'd you get to Lucerne? Train or bus? What about from Lucerne to the base of Mt Pilatus?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 02, 2014, 08:55:05 AM

That's exactly when we'll be there. How'd you get to Lucerne? Train or bus? What about from Lucerne to the base of Mt Pilatus?

Train to luzerne. Bus to pilatus
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 02, 2014, 09:29:32 AM
Train to luzerne. Bus to pilatus
Why not the river cruise?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 02, 2014, 09:38:28 AM

Why not the river cruise?

Wasnt in the mood i guess. Next time
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on May 02, 2014, 10:08:23 AM
Thanks.
:D That's one overdue Thanks... :P
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 02, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
Why not the river cruise?
How did you like the cruise? Is it a better than just taking the train?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 02, 2014, 11:09:24 AM
How did you like the cruise? Is it a better than just taking the train?
It was very pretty and relaxing. We sat on the boat, enjoyed the scenery. Ate lunch. Wife read a book. I learned a little.
We paid extra to sit up top. Not sure it was necessary, but there were plenty of tables and space.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 02, 2014, 12:34:29 PM
It was very pretty and relaxing. We sat on the boat, enjoyed the scenery. Ate lunch. Wife read a book. I learned a little.
We paid extra to sit up top. Not sure it was necessary, but there were plenty of tables and space.
Plenty of space on the bottom also, very scenic.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 02, 2014, 12:37:13 PM
It was very pretty and relaxing. We sat on the boat, enjoyed the scenery. Ate lunch. Wife read a book. I learned a little.
We paid extra to sit up top. Not sure it was necessary, but there were plenty of tables and space.
Maybe I'm missing something, but taking the river cruise or train and getting to the top of Mt Pilatus is more expensive when done on your own that with a 9.5 hour tour for $169/person. Do you just not like tours?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 02, 2014, 05:28:05 PM
From Zurich? We rented a car (convertible from Hertz, very fun). Never considered anything else. Don't remember it being more expensive than that. Wouldn't consider a tour anyways. Like to do my own thing
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 02, 2014, 06:01:53 PM
From Zurich? We rented a car (convertible from Hertz, very fun). Never considered anything else. Don't remember it being more expensive than that. Wouldn't consider a tour anyways. Like to do my own thing
I'm confused. You did the river cruise and rented a car?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 02, 2014, 06:10:12 PM
I'm confused. You did the river cruise and rented a car?
Yup. Drove to Lucerne. Parked. Did the golden round trip or whatever it's called. Boat->cogwheel train->ski lift->bus
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 02, 2014, 06:44:10 PM
Got it. Thanks for your help
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 02, 2014, 06:49:29 PM
Loved going on the train and streetcars. Major props to Chuchem for hooking us up with the all day transport pass.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 02, 2014, 07:08:03 PM
Loved going on the train and streetcars. Major props to Chuchem for hooking us up with the all day transport pass.
Which one did you get?  The  Zurichcard?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on May 02, 2014, 07:14:51 PM
Which one did you get?  The  Zurichcard?
Not that you should do this but technically you can ride any train or tram for free I was never asked to show a ticket which I had. But then again Murphy's law might show up if you actually don't have a ticket.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 02, 2014, 07:17:21 PM
Not that you should do this but technically you can ride any train or tram for free I was never asked to show a ticket which I had. But then again Murphy's law might show up if you actually don't have a ticket.
The LA metro system is also on the honor system, but if you get caught its a $2500 fine and up to six months in jail. Not quite worth it in my book.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on May 03, 2014, 01:32:25 PM
Not that you should do this but technically you can ride any train or tram for free I was never asked to show a ticket which I had. But then again Murphy's law might show up if you actually don't have a ticket.
I got asked
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 05, 2014, 02:13:30 PM
Has anyone gone on the Free Walking Tour of Zurich (http://Free Walking Tour of Zurich http://www.freewalkzurich.ch/)? Trip adviser says it's pretty good, just wondering if anyone has first hand experience.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 09, 2014, 05:14:15 PM
I've just spent way too long quickly reading through the whole thread.  Besides the PH, what are other hotels near IRG or other shuls for shabbos?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 09, 2014, 05:20:43 PM
I've just spent way too long quickly reading through the whole thread.  Besides the PH, what are other hotels near IRG or other shuls for shabbos?

If I recall correctly, you have the Four Points.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 09, 2014, 05:21:09 PM
Which one did you get?  The  Zurichcard?
Dunno, maybe try PMing chuchem?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 09, 2014, 05:24:15 PM
If I recall correctly, you have the Four Points.
I saw that. Didn't know how close it was to anything besides Chabad.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 09, 2014, 05:24:36 PM
Dunno, maybe try PMing chuchem?
Just did that, but if he's home he won't see it till tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jb93davis on May 12, 2014, 01:09:09 PM
Does anyone have any experience with good hotels in the grindenwald, wengen, murren, area (south of interlaken by the eiger and jangfruch). All the hotels were pretty low in stars and high in price.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bochur123 on May 12, 2014, 02:07:22 PM
Palace in Wengen is not bad... Wengen is IMO the nicest of those
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 12, 2014, 02:09:29 PM
Grindenwald is St Moritz...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jb93davis on May 12, 2014, 02:14:42 PM

Grindenwald is St Moritz...
I meant grindelwald. Right to the east of wengen.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bochur123 on May 12, 2014, 02:37:50 PM
I meant grindelwald. Right to the east of wengen.
It's on the other side of the mountain used to be kosher hotel there..
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jb93davis on May 12, 2014, 02:51:07 PM

It's on the other side of the mountain used to be kosher hotel there..
Ok. I'm officially confused...
Isn't that arosa. Or are you also talking about another kosher hotel in grindelwald (It's by the eiger mountain and the jangfruch just south of interlaken).  I thought st moritz and arosa were in the southeast part of Switzerland. Grindelwald and wengen are in the center of Switzerland
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bochur123 on May 12, 2014, 02:54:11 PM
U r right. And there was a kosher hotel there too.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on May 12, 2014, 03:00:31 PM
Grindelwald is very far from st moritz
St moritz, Davos, grindelwald used to have kosher hotels. Only one that exists now is arosa

In switzerland you will pay high price, its expensive
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on May 12, 2014, 06:15:40 PM
Which is the nicer one Pilatus or Rigi on a stopover?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bochur123 on May 12, 2014, 10:41:29 PM
pilatus (or titlis) IMO
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Jb93davis on May 12, 2014, 11:32:16 PM
Does anyone have suggestions for a 1-2 day itinerary in the grindelwald and wengen area.
I'm in Switzerland for 4 days. These are my first 2 and then going to lucerne for 2.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: how on May 22, 2014, 03:54:01 PM
Is Sheraton Davos Hotel Waldhuus nice?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 22, 2014, 03:55:55 PM
My sister said it looked nice, but she only passed by. She stayed at the Hilton and loved it.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 22, 2014, 03:59:30 PM
Is Sheraton Davos Hotel Waldhuus nice?
Why not the Four Points? Isn't it closer to the Jewish areas?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 22, 2014, 04:07:53 PM
I believe everything is fairly close.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: how on May 22, 2014, 04:31:25 PM
Why not the Four Points? Isn't it closer to the Jewish areas?
I dont see a four points in Davos
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 22, 2014, 04:39:00 PM
I dont see a four points in Davos
Sorry, I was thinking of Zurich.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: morgs on May 25, 2014, 07:06:56 AM
Is Sheraton Davos Hotel Waldhuus nice?
My wife and I stayed there 2 summers ago and had an awesome time. The hotel is very clean and nice, the service is great. Just one thing I didn't like-the hotel has no a/c. When I inquired they told me we are in the alps and you don't need a/c-true, but I still wish they would give the option. Aside from that (unless things changed in the last 2 years) it was a really nice experience. They had a mini golf course behind the hotel, and most of the hotel/rooms have cabin-like looks which gives it a real homey feel!!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: how on May 25, 2014, 11:57:10 AM
My wife and I stayed there 2 summers ago and had an awesome time. The hotel is very clean and nice, the service is great. Just one thing I didn't like-the hotel has no a/c. When I inquired they told me we are in the alps and you don't need a/c-true, but I still wish they would give the option. Aside from that (unless things changed in the last 2 years) it was a really nice experience. They had a mini golf course behind the hotel, and most of the hotel/rooms have cabin-like looks which gives it a real homey feel!!
thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on May 26, 2014, 05:27:33 PM
I'm thinking of going to Sheraton in Davos for a week.
Is there any kosher food to buy in Davos?
Could I bring in frozen Pomegranate meals into Switzerland?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: how on May 26, 2014, 05:28:30 PM
Is there any kosher food to buy in Davos?
when?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on May 26, 2014, 05:34:53 PM
July
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bochur123 on May 26, 2014, 08:25:35 PM
July
the spar (supermarket) usually carries lots of kosher products in the summer including some freshly made salads and cold cuts
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on May 27, 2014, 02:42:07 AM
You are not allowed to bring any meat or milk products into switzerland from outside the eu

In july you will have enough to buy there
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on May 27, 2014, 08:08:16 AM
You are not allowed to bring any meat or milk products into switzerland from outside the eu

In july you will have enough to buy there
Is there any restaurant too or only groceries?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: how on May 27, 2014, 09:14:31 AM
Are there regular minyanim there by late june early july?

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bochur123 on May 27, 2014, 09:29:19 AM
Is there any restaurant too or only groceries?
No
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bochur123 on May 27, 2014, 09:29:46 AM
Are there regular minyanim there by late june early july?
Usually there are.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: how on May 27, 2014, 09:30:41 AM
Usually there are.
thanks how far is it from zurich airport by train?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bochur123 on May 27, 2014, 09:32:10 AM
thanks how far is it from zurich airport by train?
About 2.5 hr
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: how on May 27, 2014, 09:32:38 AM
About 2.5 hr
thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on May 28, 2014, 05:44:51 PM
I've just spent way too long quickly reading through the whole thread.  Besides the PH, what are other hotels near IRG or other shuls for shabbos?

There is the Sheraton Neues Schloss, just across from the PH basically.

Also, the IRG and Chabad are really only a 10-15 minute walk from each other, so even if you were to stay at 4P the IRG is easily walkable, and vice versa with the other hotels to Chabad.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2014, 05:46:39 PM
There is the Sheraton Neues Schloss, just across from the PH basically.

Also, the IRG and Chabad are really only a 10-15 minute walk from each other, so even if you were to stay at 4P the IRG is easily walkable, and vice versa with the other hotels to Chabad.
Thanks. The 4P is a lot cheaper. I'll probably end up there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 28, 2014, 05:49:05 PM
I'm staying at the Sheraton. Simply based on the points I had avail. Haven't gotten to planning this city yet, but hope it's near something!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2014, 05:55:49 PM
I'm staying at the Sheraton. Simply based on the points I had avail. Haven't gotten to planning this city yet, but hope it's near something!
Which Sherton? Zurich Sheraton or Zurich Sheraton Neues?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 28, 2014, 05:59:00 PM
Which Sherton? Zurich Sheraton or Zurich Sheraton Neues?
Zurich stam.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2014, 06:05:05 PM
Zurich stam.
Why not 4p? You're not going to be there for shabbos? I'm even thinking of just paying for rooms at the 4P because for my dates it's only CHF 123/night. At that rate it's not worth spending 16k points or even 6k+$110. Only thing is it's a prepaid rate so no cancellations. That's the only reason I haven't done it yet. What do you think?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 28, 2014, 06:21:39 PM
Why not 4p? You're not going to be there for shabbos? I'm even thinking of just paying for rooms at the 4P because for my dates it's only CHF 123/night. At that rate it's not worth spending 16k points or even 6k+$110. Only thing is it's a prepaid rate so no cancellations. That's the only reason I haven't done it yet. What do you think?
Pretty close to the airport and I only have 23 hr 55 min in ZRH, so I think that will be convenient. Not a Shabbos stay. Also, at this point you should know I'm trying to get every night for free :P
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2014, 06:25:22 PM
Pretty close to the airport and I only have 23 hr 55 min in ZRH, so I think that will be convenient. Not a Shabbos stay. Also, at this point you should know I'm trying to get every night for free :P
I know you're aiming for all free nights. I was just saying that I might pay for the room. You probably got the longest >24 layover. I though my 22:50 layover in London was good, but you beat me.  :P
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 28, 2014, 06:31:51 PM
I know you're aiming for all free nights. I was just saying that I might pay for the room. You probably got the longest >24 layover. I though my 22:50 layover in London was good, but you beat me.  :P
I'm very proud of it.  8)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bochur123 on May 29, 2014, 01:01:44 AM
Pretty close to the airport and I only have 23 hr 55 min in ZRH, so I think that will be convenient. Not a Shabbos stay. Also, at this point you should know I'm trying to get every night for free :P
Far from city center
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 29, 2014, 08:11:18 AM
Far from city center
What can ya do? Had exactly 16K SPG left. In every city, you either stay by the airport and taxi/metro to town, or you stay in town and then taxi/metro to the airport. When you're going for several days, it's easier to be in town, but if it's just 1 day then it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 02, 2014, 11:45:14 PM
Ok just browsed through the first ~300 posts and then the posts from 2014.

It's clear that for a 1 day stop, you go to Lucerne. Kinda surprised by how many times Dan chimed in with the same response to people about the options besides for going up Pilatus. Anyway, I can't believe it's so expensive, so I'm not convinced I want to do it yet.

Is there a cheaper way to get a nice view of the alps, perhaps even from the ground?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on June 03, 2014, 01:30:30 AM
Ok just browsed through the first ~300 posts and then the posts from 2014.

It's clear that for a 1 day stop, you go to Lucerne. Kinda surprised by how many times Dan chimed in with the same response to people about the options besides for going up Pilatus. Anyway, I can't believe it's so expensive, so I'm not convinced I want to do it yet.

Is there a cheaper way to get a nice view of the alps, perhaps even from the ground?
I've done a few same day stopovers in Zurich and during those times I visited Titlis, Pilatus, Rigi and Flumsberg. The cheapest was Flumsburg and for a good reason. I'm not sure how interesting it's in the summer as I was there in the winter and it was just nice. Definitely Titlis is the nicest IMO of those but Pilatus and Rigi are very nice as well specially in the summer.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 03, 2014, 07:26:28 AM
I've done a few same day stopovers in Zurich and during those times I visited Titlis, Pilatus, Rigi and Flumsberg. The cheapest was Flumsburg and for a good reason. I'm not sure how interesting it's in the summer as I was there in the winter and it was just nice. Definitely Titlis is the nicest IMO of those but Pilatus and Rigi are very nice as well specially in the summer.
Thanks. So it seems like you don't think it's worth doing the cheaper option.

Any idea where to get Shacharis midweek? I'll be at the Sheraton Zurich, so I know I'll have to tram into town.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on June 03, 2014, 08:11:41 AM
Thanks. So it seems like you don't think it's worth doing the cheaper option.

Any idea where to get Shacharis midweek? I'll be at the Sheraton Zurich, so I know I'll have to tram into town.
Correct.
Enge, that's the Jewish area in Zurich. It's a stop or two from Zurich HB and you'll find there kosher food as well.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 03, 2014, 08:18:02 AM
Correct.
Enge, that's the Jewish area in Zurich. It's a stop or two from Zurich HB and you'll find there kosher food as well.
Great. Do you know which line to take?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 03, 2014, 08:41:28 AM
Great. Do you know which line to take?
According to Google Maps there are a few tram lines that go through Enge.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 03, 2014, 08:55:06 AM
According to Google Maps there are a few tram lines that go through Enge.
Do you know where you're davening/eating?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 03, 2014, 09:31:35 AM
Do you know where you're davening/eating?
We're staying with friends of friends. Not quite sure about davening yet, though I imagine IRG .
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 10, 2014, 04:46:49 PM
I've been trying to figure out the best and the cheapest ways to get to Enge (station) from the Zurich airport).  The options seem kind of confusing. This is what I've come up with so far for adults traveling during the day (no special reductions or nighttime add ons). Prices in CHF obviously.

A 3-zone single ticket is 6.60 valid for 1 hour.
A 3-zone 24 hour pass is 13.20, but we wouldn't be going back to the airport withing 24 hours. We plan on just walking around town, so my guess is a 24 hour pass is not worth it.

For short trips within Zurich (like from Enge to Sihlquai HB) it looks like it's only 2.60 valid for half an hour.

Even if I would travel on two short trips and one airport (3-zone) trip within 24 hours it would only be 11.80, still making the 24 hour pass not worth it.

Questions
Am I missing something or does my math make sense?
Would I need to take more trams/trains to get around town? Everything looks walkable from Enge.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 10, 2014, 04:49:32 PM
Zurich is walkable if weather is nice. It's a small city and end to end is about 1.5 hours. Enge to Banhoff Strasse is 15 minute
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 10, 2014, 05:01:22 PM
Zurich is walkable if weather is nice. It's a small city and end to end is about 1.5 hours. Enge to Banhoff Strasse is 15 minute
Do you know much about the tains to/from the airport?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MC on June 10, 2014, 05:10:11 PM
Do you know much about the tains to/from the airport?
I do. It's as easy as easy gets... everything runs perfectly on time and is really well marked. From the airport you take a free tram to the train station and from there you can purchase your train ticket to wherever you need to go.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 10, 2014, 05:16:49 PM
I do. It's as easy as easy gets... everything runs perfectly on time and is really well marked. From the airport you take a free tram to the train station and from there you can purchase your train ticket to wherever you need to go.
I was there myself 14 years ago, and I remember being able to take the train straight from the airport. Are you referring to the S-Bahn (local train) that leaves from a station near but not in the airport?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MC on June 10, 2014, 05:28:10 PM
I was there myself 14 years ago, and I remember being able to take the train straight from the airport. Are you referring to the S-Bahn (local train) that leaves from a station near but not in the airport?
I don't think so. Unless that's the same as the SBB. I've been there within the past five years twice. Once I went to Zurich - that time I took a train straight from the airport (which is located a little outside the center of the city) into the main station in town. From there I took a bus to get around.
The other time I went to Basel and again I took a train straight from the airport.
BUT the train station in the airport is "underground" under a terminal... I don't remember which one. So from where you land and collect your luggage, you will probably have to take a tram to the station. It's all within the airport and it's all very clearly marked... these are the Swiss after all ;)

ETA: "Bahn" means train in both German and Swiss-German. As long as you know that you will have no problem getting to where you need to go.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 10, 2014, 05:30:30 PM
I don't think so. Unless that's the same as the SBB. I've been there within the past five years twice. Once I went to Zurich - that time I took a train straight from the airport (which is located a little outside the center of the city) into the main station in town. From there I took a bus to get around.
The other time I went to Basel and again I took a train straight from the airport.
BUT the train station in the airport is "underground" under a terminal... I don't remember which one. So from where you land and collect your luggage, you will probably have to take a tram to the station. It's all within the airport and it's all very clearly marked... these are the Swiss after all ;)

ETA: "Bahn" means train in both German and Swiss-German. As long as you know that you will have no problem getting to where you need to go.
Thanks! I took the underground one last I was there. I'm glad to know it's still working. I'm aware of Bahn. I'm learning German in preparation for the trip.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MC on June 10, 2014, 05:36:05 PM
Thanks! I took the underground one last I was there. I'm glad to know it's still working. I'm aware of Bahn. I'm learning German in preparation for the trip.
WOW good luck!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 10, 2014, 05:40:07 PM
WOW good luck!
Danke!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MC on June 10, 2014, 05:42:10 PM
Danke!
Bitte :)
You do know that while all the Swiss understand German, they actually speak their own dialect of Swiss-Deutsch which will thoroughly confuse you, right?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 10, 2014, 05:48:03 PM
Bitte :)
You do know that while all the Swiss understand German, they actually speak their own dialect of Swiss-Deutsch which will thoroughly confuse you, right?
Yup, but between knowing how to get by in German and people knowing English I figured that I'll get by. Rosetta Stone doesn't have a Swiss German language, just plain old German. From what I read, many news reports, radio, and TV news are in German (regular), so I might just sound like a reporter.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 10, 2014, 05:51:30 PM
You don't need to take a tram to get to the train. It's right inside the terminal. Runs every 10 minutes or so. Perhaps the most accessible airport in the world in that aspect.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 10, 2014, 05:52:37 PM
You don't need to take a tram to get to the train. It's right inside the terminal. Runs every 10 minutes or so. Perhaps the most accessible airport in the world in that aspect.
Do they still have the luggage carts that can go on the escalators?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MC on June 10, 2014, 05:56:18 PM
You don't need to take a tram to get to the train. It's right inside the terminal. Runs every 10 minutes or so. Perhaps the most accessible airport in the world in that aspect.
So then I'm mistaking it with whatever you would call the 'tram' that took me from terminal to terminal...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 10, 2014, 06:15:20 PM
Take the train from under the airport to Zurich HB. There you will be at the top (or bottom) of Banhofstrasse. You can either walk along the street until you arrive at the lake or you can hop on a tram to get to pretty much anywhere in the city.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 10, 2014, 06:35:43 PM
You are taking about the train taking you from terminal e to the main terminal.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: deals on June 11, 2014, 12:08:29 AM
anyone did the bernina express ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hr555 on June 11, 2014, 12:30:55 AM
Which is better for hiking views etc., Arosa, Davos, St. Moritz or Saltzburg?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 11, 2014, 02:01:51 AM
St moritz
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moshe90 on June 11, 2014, 02:06:07 AM

St moritz
+1
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Pupashtetl on June 20, 2014, 11:47:30 AM
anyone been to wnegen palace hotel with tour plus?
any other good suggestions for kosher hotels in switzerland/europe?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on June 24, 2014, 05:42:36 PM
so i found a United First flight to BCN with 12 hour stop in Geneva.
any suggestions for 12 hours in Geneva, Sights, kosher food ?

thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 24, 2014, 05:46:54 PM
so i found a United First flight to BCN with 12 hour stop in Geneva.
any suggestions for 12 hours in Geneva, Sights, kosher food ?

thanks

I have never been, but GVA is pretty close to Lausanne, which is supposed to be a very pretty city to visit. Perhaps others can chime in.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Centurion on July 03, 2014, 08:57:12 AM
zrh-st moritz

where can i get (do i need)  chf in ny/nj?
should i get in the airport?
TIA
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hr555 on July 03, 2014, 12:09:26 PM
If you have a CC w/o foreign transaction fee, you don’t need much CHF.
The only place I needed CHF was for a locker in the airport & for a drink on top of the Alps (in Arosa).

I'm thinking of Maloja this year.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Centurion on July 03, 2014, 04:28:59 PM
do they accept euros in swiss?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on July 03, 2014, 05:09:22 PM
do they accept euros in swiss?

Most places do, but the exchange rate won't be as good. If you are going to use cash, better to have CHF. IME.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ploni3 on July 03, 2014, 05:30:32 PM
anyone been to wnegen palace hotel with tour plus?
any other good suggestions for kosher hotels in switzerland/europe?
.
We were there a couple of years back. Good and plentiful food, clean accommodations and TourPlus was easy and reliable to deal with. The Bernesse Oberland is an incredibly beautiful area.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: The Guy on July 03, 2014, 06:06:59 PM
I will be in Zurich this coming week for 1 night a stop over,where will be the place to stay for 1 night? cheap near to jewish area.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 08, 2014, 05:02:24 AM
Seems like it's rainy in Zurich this week. Would you still try to go up a mountain (Rigi) in the rain or is it not worth it?

Anything else to do for a rainy day?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 08, 2014, 05:27:44 AM
Seems like it's rainy in Zurich this week. Would you still try to go up a mountain (Rigi) in the rain or is it not worth it?

Anything else to do for a rainy day?
My brother in law went up Pilatus in the rain and said it was still worth it, partially because it was clear on top.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 08, 2014, 05:55:41 AM
My brother in law went up Pilatus in the rain and said it was still worth it, partially because it was clear on top.

+1. But for myself. I went up on a cloudy day, wasn't raining. And still amazing. Was in the clouds, over the clouds, was pretty cool. Made some nice pictures. Also, there were every now and then a few views under the clouds

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 08, 2014, 10:05:18 AM
Oh okay, that's not bad, just a different experience. Thanks for the calming words.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 08, 2014, 10:16:10 AM
Oh okay, that's not bad, just a different experience. Thanks for the calming words.

NP. Personally I would rather some clouds then a perfect sunny day. Only thing that would stop me is if it was stormy weather but in that case I don't think the trams would go anyways
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on July 08, 2014, 01:01:59 PM
Pilatus was a great experience even on a somewhat cloudy day. Beautiful views and if you want to spend the time, you can take a boat over to the cogwheel train and then go up that way.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 08, 2014, 01:20:42 PM
Pilatus was a great experience even on a somewhat cloudy day. Beautiful views and if you want to spend the time, you can take a boat over to the cogwheel train and then go up that way.
Thanks. I plan on doing Rigi though.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 08, 2014, 01:56:15 PM
Also, what's the deal with the chocolate? What Swiss chocolate MUST we try? (We're not Chalav Yisrael.)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 08, 2014, 02:17:46 PM
Also, what's the deal with the chocolate? What Swiss chocolate MUST we try? (We're not Chalav Yisrael.)
all kosher swiss chocolate can be purchased in the us or israel. chances are youve already had them. sorry for raining on your parade
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on July 08, 2014, 02:34:12 PM
Thanks. I plan on doing Rigi though.

I thought about Rigi also - just wondering why you chose it over Pilatus?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 08, 2014, 03:48:35 PM
all kosher swiss chocolate can be purchased in the us or israel. chances are youve already had them. sorry for raining on your parade
:( so that means like Toblerone is fine? I would think it's cheaper here.

I thought about Rigi also - just wondering why you chose it over Pilatus?

Access to it is included in the travel pass I bought. That's why lol
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2014, 03:55:46 PM
If you go to the tourist office in the Lucerne train station they'll show you a webcam from atop Pilatus.
When we were there the webcam showed just clouds so we did the great boat tour and walked along the old city walls and the bridges.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 08, 2014, 03:59:57 PM
If you go to the tourist office in the Lucerne train station they'll show you a webcam from atop Pilatus.
When we were there the webcam showed just clouds so we did the great boat tour and walked along the old city walls and the bridges.
I remember reading you wrote that in your TR and repeated it several times here to help people. Thanks.
Any idea if Rigi is reached via Lucerne (was planning to ask concierge how to go) and/or if it also has a webcam view?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on July 08, 2014, 04:13:30 PM
I remember reading you wrote that in your TR and repeated it several times here to help people. Thanks.
Any idea if Rigi is reached via Lucerne (was planning to ask concierge how to go) and/or if it also has a webcam view?

http://www.rigi.ch/Travel-information/Getting-there
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 08, 2014, 04:27:31 PM
http://www.rigi.ch/Travel-information/Getting-there
Thanks!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: karen on July 09, 2014, 10:29:21 AM
I need to travel from Venice to Zurich, from Zurich to Rome, it the train better choice or fly from viewing and cost point?
Also I plan to stay in Zurich for 3 nights, any recommendation for activities? I plan to a day trip to Lucerne. Thanks!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Pupashtetl on July 21, 2014, 08:22:41 AM
Any beautiful non kosher hotels in arosa in walking distance of levin?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on August 01, 2014, 06:00:56 PM
How long of a stopover in ZRH to I need to be able to go out of the airport to visit Lucerne and go up to Mount Pilatus?
Is 9 hrs. enough?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 01, 2014, 06:02:49 PM
How long of a stopover in ZRH to I need to be able to go out of the airport to visit Lucerne and go up to Mount Pilatus?
Is 9 hrs. enough?

yes. 9 hrs is good
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on August 12, 2014, 03:24:20 PM
Planning to be in St. moritz for a day, where should I go? which alps can I go ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hr555 on August 12, 2014, 04:03:35 PM
Planning to be in St. moritz for a day, where should I go? which alps can I go ?

There are 4-5 common peaks accessible by cable car. All have distinct stunning views in a clear day!
1) Piz Nair. Access from St. Moritz.
2) Corvatsch. Access by bus.
3) Muottas Muragl – Alp Langaurd. Access from Pontresina a bus-ride away.
4) Diavolezza. Access by train. (the furthest from St. Moritz)
If you want to do some hiking, you can probably only do one per day. If you just want to go up & enjoy the view, you can probably cover two or three if you have a full day.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on August 20, 2014, 12:07:29 PM
Want to enter for one day to switzerland by car from Austria, I see that u need a highway sticker to drive there, it's nuts that they only have a yearly sticker for 40 swiss franc ::)

Does any one know if I'll just be driving on route 27 and 28 (from Austria borer to davos) if I need it?

Thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on August 20, 2014, 12:53:11 PM
If you on highway, you need it. They make spot checks, especially border area, can cost you 200 fr if you don't have it
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on August 20, 2014, 12:57:36 PM
Tnx!! My question is if road 27 and 28 are considered "highway"?

And isn't there daily, weekly stickers??
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bestwatchman on August 20, 2014, 05:08:55 PM
Dunno about those roads buy no, there is no other option besides the 40sfr for the rest of 2014.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on August 20, 2014, 05:17:54 PM
Tnx to alll of u!! I checked it up and these roads are free!!!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on August 25, 2014, 01:16:04 PM
Tnx to alll of u!! I checked it up and these roads are free!!!

Also be careful not to speed in CH.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 14, 2014, 07:53:36 PM
I have a 9 hour stopover in ZRH I was thinking of doing Mount Pilatus but i'm afraid it will be a bit tight.
Any other ideas what to do during the layover?
Is it worth going to Lucerne without going up Mt. Pilatus?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 14, 2014, 07:59:06 PM
I have a 9 hour stopover in ZRH I was thinking of doing Mount Pilatus but i'm afraid it will be a bit tight.
Any other ideas what to do during the layover?
Is it worth going to Lucerne without going up Mt. Pilatus?
If it's a Sunday most stores are closed everywhere, so Pilatus or Rigi would be nice. I thought Lucerne was nice, but couldn't imagine going there without going up a mountain.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 14, 2014, 08:21:55 PM
If it's a Sunday most stores are closed everywhere, so Pilatus or Rigi would be nice. I thought Lucerne was nice, but couldn't imagine going there without going up a mountain.
Its a Monday
Is the city of Lucerne nicer and more scenic then Zurich?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 14, 2014, 08:22:21 PM
Its a Monday
Is the city of Lucerne nicer and more scenic then Zurich?
Yes
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MC on September 14, 2014, 08:24:17 PM
Its a Monday
Is the city of Lucerne nicer and more scenic then Zurich?
It's more scenic and there's a beautiful lake, but if you're worried about time and proximity to the airport, Zurich has plenty to see (and there's a lake there too!)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on September 14, 2014, 08:25:35 PM
But is it worth going from the airport to the train station to Lucerne to walk around for a few hours (can you even just walk around for that much time?) just to come back? Going into Zurich and getting some food at a restaurant might be a better use of your time.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 14, 2014, 08:26:51 PM
It's more scenic and there's a beautiful lake, but if you're worried about time and proximity to the airport, Zurich has plenty to see (and there's a lake there too!)
But 9 hr. should make it?
How long before the flight do I need to arrive in ZRH airport if I'm traveling swiss business and my luggage are already checked in?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 14, 2014, 08:28:55 PM
But is it worth going from the airport to the train station to Lucerne to walk around for a few hours (can you even just walk around for that much time?) just to come back? Going into Zurich and getting some food at a restaurant might be a better use of your time.
Food in a restaurant I could get at home too, when I'm going there I would like to see as much possible.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on September 14, 2014, 08:29:34 PM
Nine hours should be plenty to go up the mountain
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 14, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
Walking on the bridges, old city walls, and of course the boat ride in Lucerne is priceless.

Was a shame it was such a cloudy day, but was well worthwhile even without pilatus.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 14, 2014, 08:36:02 PM
Nine hours should be plenty to go up the mountain
Traveling time itself up to the mountain is about 5 1/2 hr. round trip
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on September 14, 2014, 08:40:33 PM
Food in a restaurant I could get at home too, when I'm going there I would like to see as much possible.
Yes, but it's not a huge stopover. I dk, I'm too stressed on a stopover to go out and do such a big activity. Did it take me less than 9 hours to go up Rigi, probably yes. But I had a 24 hour stopover, so I didn't feel pressed for time at all. Obviously you can get food anywhere, but I just think of "short" stopovers as food runs/doing things locally in the city.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on September 14, 2014, 08:45:28 PM
Traveling time itself up to the mountain is about 5 1/2 hr. round trip

Says who? Traveling time with the pilatus cable car is 15 minutes maximum.

9 hours is A LOT. Go for it...

The train is an hour each way. 3 hours at Pilatus is more than enough. Walk around the city, take a boat or ship ride And head back to the airport. I would say 75 minutes before the flight is perfectly fine to arrive at the airport.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 14, 2014, 08:47:19 PM
Says who? Traveling time with the pilatus cable car is 15 minutes maximum.
The cable car is closed now until mid November only the cogwheel is open.
I could take the cable car until Fräkmüntegg, is it worth it?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on September 14, 2014, 09:21:28 PM
No. In that case just stay in Zurich
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on September 14, 2014, 10:57:36 PM
Or do Rigi with a combination of boat, cable car and mountain train.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 15, 2014, 10:44:56 PM
Or do Rigi with a combination of boat, cable car and mountain train.
I'm thinking of doing Mt. Rigi, its 3 hr. outbound through lucerne and boat ride on the lake and just 2 hr. return by train.
What would be the cheapest option is there any daily pass for this?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on September 15, 2014, 10:55:03 PM
I'm thinking of doing Mt. Rigi, its 3 hr. outbound through lucerne and boat ride on the lake and just 2 hr. return by train.
What would be the cheapest option is there any daily pass for this?
I don't remember prices but one option is to go to the My Switzerland office that is right behind the ticket counter at the airport train station, they can do the whole ticketing as one ticket at a discounted price.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 29, 2014, 06:58:49 AM
Is there any kosher food near bahnhofstrasse?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on September 29, 2014, 08:09:43 AM
Is there any kosher food near bahnhofstrasse?
Was never there. But Migros and Co'op offer a nice selection of kosher food. You just need to download the current kosher guide to see wich food you can buy from there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 29, 2014, 08:33:15 AM
Was never there. But Migros and Co'op offer a nice selection of kosher food. You just need to download the current kosher guide to see wich food you can buy from there.
+1. There's even a Migros in the train station that's the only one open on Sundays.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on November 03, 2014, 02:48:35 PM
hi,

which shul is near the PH Zurich ?
which Kosher food places are nearby as well ?
Flying J with Swiss out of Zurich. is there a lounge available there ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 03, 2014, 02:50:14 PM
hi,

which shul is near the PH Zurich ?
which Kosher food places are nearby as well ?
Flying J with Swiss out of Zurich. is there a lounge available there ?
IRG is near the PHZ, about a10 minute walk.
There are restaurants, though a bit further of a walk.
Yes.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: morgs on November 03, 2014, 02:58:37 PM

which Kosher food places are nearby as well ?

The olive garden restaurant (meat) is about a 8-10 min walk away (very easy directions as well) located in the JCC building (dont remember for sure if you need your passport to get in here......)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 03, 2014, 03:02:05 PM
The olive garden restaurant (meat) is about a 8-10 min walk away (very easy directions as well) located in the JCC building (dont remember for sure if you need your passport to get in here......)
Oh right. I forgot about that one. The JCC is really close as well. I was only their on shabbos and they didn't require a passport, although that could be because I went with people who live there and the guard recognized them.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on November 03, 2014, 03:17:45 PM
thanks everyone !!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: DP7 on November 03, 2014, 03:20:14 PM
I am going to be in Lausanne for two weeks (11/30-12/12) for work. What is my best bet for food?

I found this:
http://jewisheurope.org/pranzo.asp

Anyone know if this is any good? Or know of anything else?

TIA!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: HBERG on November 03, 2014, 04:34:27 PM
Has anyone been to the Sheraton Davis?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on November 03, 2014, 06:09:42 PM
I am going to be in Lausanne for two weeks (11/30-12/12) for work. What is my best bet for food?

I found this:
http://jewisheurope.org/pranzo.asp

Anyone know if this is any good? Or know of anything else?

TIA!
http://www.chabadluzern.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/296623/jewish/Kosher-Bread.htm
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: DP7 on November 03, 2014, 06:12:04 PM
http://www.chabadluzern.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/296623/jewish/Kosher-Bread.htm

That doesn't seem to be the same area.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on November 03, 2014, 06:19:51 PM
My mistake, was reading too quick and I thought you wrote Lucerne.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yoelygb on November 04, 2014, 02:19:45 PM
What's the cheapest way to get from tlv to Switzerland using points or cash?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: morgs on November 04, 2014, 04:20:24 PM
What's the cheapest way to get from tlv to Switzerland using points or cash?
For cash try using skyscanner.net-it shows you the cheapest prices and it usually includes the low cost carriers. For points I believe UA is the best way to go (using Swiss, etc.)-but I am not 100% on that.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yoelygb on November 04, 2014, 04:21:57 PM
For cash try using skyscanner.net-it shows you the cheapest prices and it usually includes the low cost carriers. For points I believe UA is the best way to go (using Swiss, etc.)-but I am not 100% on that.
I think krisflyer is better
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yoelygb on November 26, 2014, 02:20:14 AM
I'm Going to Switzerland from Monday to Thursday with a 10 month old baby what's the places I should go which would be baby friendly
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on November 26, 2014, 08:02:02 AM
I'm Going to Switzerland from Monday to Thursday with a 10 month old baby what's the places I should go which would be baby friendly
Please be more specific, you have anything in mind? (Ski? Hike?)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yoelygb on November 26, 2014, 08:45:46 AM
Please be more specific, you have anything in mind? (Ski? Hike?)
Sightseeing touring I'm not really going for skiing
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on November 26, 2014, 09:17:54 AM
Sightseeing touring I'm not really going for skiing
I would advise you to take a baby carrier (on shoulder), that way you can do almost everything. So the question is a general one where should you go for sightseeing? you can read my TR hopefully it will give you some ideas http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46155.0 just keep in mind you won't be able to hop around Switzerland in so little time, you should base your trip either in central Swistzerland like Luzern or Wengen (there is Minyan all year in Luzern). or in the east like Davos or Aroza
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yoelygb on November 30, 2014, 12:55:10 AM
I would advise you to take a baby carrier (on shoulder), that way you can do almost everything. So the question is a general one where should you go for sightseeing? you can read my TR hopefully it will give you some ideas http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46155.0 just keep in mind you won't be able to hop around Switzerland in so little time, you should base your trip either in central Swistzerland like Luzern or Wengen (there is Minyan all year in Luzern). or in the east like Davos or Aroza
I'm arriving in Geneva
Which area should I stay?
Any places with minyan and kosher options in December?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on November 30, 2014, 08:55:57 AM
I'm arriving in Geneva
Which area should I stay?
Any places with minyan and kosher options in December?
Not much to do in that area. I think there is Minyon all year in Geneva, but the mountains are not in that area. I assume you are going there for a nice SPG hotel. If that's the case rather change to Zurich.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on December 01, 2014, 11:29:53 AM
is there any kosher hotel now open in Switzerland since Levin is not open ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on December 01, 2014, 11:49:57 AM
is there any kosher hotel now open in Switzerland since Levin is not open ?
Levine is  not open?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on December 01, 2014, 12:18:06 PM
Levine is  not open?
no only from dec 17
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: The Guy on December 08, 2014, 01:28:56 PM
I would like to go to Switzerland in Feb, if Levin is open is that my best choice?
I am looking for a hotel with kosher food and minyunim.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: The Guy on December 11, 2014, 09:04:52 AM
Meir Klein has a hotel in Crans-Montana this winter,his prices look better then Levin.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on December 11, 2014, 11:21:58 AM
Meir Klein has a hotel in Crans-Montana this winter,his prices look better then Levin.
Link or phone number?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: The Guy on December 11, 2014, 11:29:16 AM
Link or phone number?

I found it on Kosherholidays.net

Here you have his email hotelmk@gmail.com
He gave me 7 days in Feb for Chf 2000  Levin wanted Chf 2800 (I am talking about the nicer rooms by each)
And this is after bargaining by both of them.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: The Guy on December 11, 2014, 11:31:01 AM
Actually if you don't mind bringing with your own food you could book it on booking.com for $1,000,but that's only for the room and Klein will take Chf 1400 just for food for 2 people for 7 days.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 13, 2014, 02:44:47 PM
The cogwheel up to Pilatus is closed in March. Correct?
How about - walking on the bridges, old city walls, and the boat ride in Lucerne in March?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on December 23, 2014, 11:01:18 AM
Is the product the same on a Edelweiss as on SWISS? Any reason not to book ZRH-JFK in business that is operated by Edelweiss as opposed to SWISS?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: s.and.n on January 12, 2015, 07:12:37 AM
We are planning a trip in May for 5 days. We would like to be in the mountains for two days and Shabbos in Zurich. Which mountain town is nice in may, has kosher food and can book hotel with points? Maybe Chuchem can help?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 12, 2015, 08:01:45 AM
We are planning a trip in May for 5 days. We would like to be in the mountains for two days and Shabbos in Zurich. Which mountain town is nice in may, has kosher food and can book hotel with points? Maybe Chuchem can help?
Thanks!
Kosher food (besides meat and milk) you can find everywhere in Migros and Coop. Hotel with points is tough because in the mountains most hotels are single/private hotels not chain hotels. But you can do your own research for hotels. I think SPG has a few in Davos. Or base your trip in Luzern with kosher groceries and Minyonim and Hotels (with points).
you can consider going to Engelberg, Aroza, Davos, Saas Fee, Wengen, just to mention a few. Engelberg is the closest to Zurich, and a must!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on January 12, 2015, 08:30:01 AM
Kosher food (besides meat and milk) you can find everywhere in Migros and Coop. Hotel with points is tough because in the mountains most hotels are single/private hotels not chain hotels. But you can do your own research for hotels. I think SPG has a few in Davos. Or base your trip in Luzern with kosher groceries and Minyonim and Hotels (with points).
you can consider going to Engelberg, Aroza, Davos, Saas Fee, Wengen, just to mention a few. Engelberg is the closest to Zurich, and a must!

There is also a Hilton and an Intercontinental in Davos. Perhaps more though those I'm sure of.
My sister stayed at the Hilton there and had a great time.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: s.and.n on January 12, 2015, 12:44:02 PM
Thank you!! Would you say some of the mountain towns are "nicer" than others? Davos is one of the top?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 12, 2015, 04:40:00 PM
Thank you!! Would you say some of the mountain towns are "nicer" than others? Davos is one of the top?
Every mountain has its specialty. Hard to say Davos is the top. More necessarily Top destination for Frum people. I personally would rank Engelberg #1, Vengen #2 Saas Fee #3 and then Davos.

You can read my TR here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46155.msg948310#msg948310 I hope it will give you some ideas. Keep in mind May is still before the summer and might be cold high up.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: morgs on January 12, 2015, 05:44:10 PM
Thank you!! Would you say some of the mountain towns are "nicer" than others? Davos is one of the top?
We stayed for a shabbos in Davos in the Sheraton-it was fantastic and beautiful! (Although I can not compare to other areas)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: an613 on January 20, 2015, 07:50:52 PM
Is toblerone made in Switzerland without a hechsher kosher?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: davmtl on January 27, 2015, 09:09:05 PM
I'm traveling with my wife to Zurich for the weekend from Friday till Monday afternoon, what kind of pass should I buy for travel into the city and back and some traveling on Sunday and Monday morning. And any suggestions on what to do Sunday noon till Monday noon. (I've got some Marriott and spg points.)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on January 27, 2015, 10:05:47 PM
@vacationlover mentioned something about a halbtax card. its unlimited travel for all transportation. designed for tourists.. if you can stay at the park hyatt zurich its stunning...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: davmtl on January 28, 2015, 03:09:22 AM
I think there is a pass that includes some rides and attractions, so if someone has some experience, I would like to know what is the best option so I don't pay to much on Sunday.

I don't need a hotel for my stay in Zurich. I just want to go somewhere Sunday and maybe stay there in a nice hotel.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: morgs on January 28, 2015, 07:53:31 AM
I don't need a hotel for my stay in Zurich. I just want to go somewhere Sunday and maybe stay there in a nice hotel.
There is a really nice sheraton in Davos that we stayed in and I heard they opened an IC there too which looks pretty nice (TA does not have the best reviews though.....)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 28, 2015, 08:15:02 AM
There is a really nice sheraton in Davos that we stayed in and I heard they opened an IC there too which looks pretty nice (TA does not have the best reviews though.....)
I think Davos is far from Zurich and doesn't pay to go for one day - unless you have enough time.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: davmtl on January 28, 2015, 08:16:44 AM
I think Davos is far from Zurich and doesn't pay to go for one day - unless you have enough time.
Thanks. Any better ideas?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 28, 2015, 08:18:19 AM
Thanks. Any better ideas?
What are you looking for? Hikes? Views? Skiing? And how much time do you have?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: davmtl on January 28, 2015, 08:25:30 AM
I'm coming for shabbos for a simche, so basically I have from Sunday noon till Monday afternoon. My flight is 4pm. I don't mind staying in Zurich (and then I won't have to pay for hotel) but I especially booked the return for Monday so we can have a mini vacation or at least some time for attractions. Do you have any ideas? Shall I just go to Lucerne as suggested in the wiki? Even winter?

And mainly I need more information on what passes I should buy and how to get it cheaply.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on January 28, 2015, 08:35:17 AM
I'm coming for shabbos for a simche, so basically I have from Sunday noon till Monday afternoon. My flight is 4pm. I don't mind staying in Zurich (and then I won't have to pay for hotel) but I especially booked the return for Monday so we can have a mini vacation or at least some time for attractions. Do you have any ideas? Shall I just go to Lucerne as suggested in the wiki? Even winter?

And mainly I need more information on what passes I should buy and how to get it cheaply.
I would imagine Lucerne is even more beautiful in the winter.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: davmtl on January 28, 2015, 09:15:02 AM
I would imagine Lucerne is even more beautiful in the winter.
From the website it sounds like the cogwheel is only working in the summer.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 28, 2015, 09:26:55 AM
I'm coming for shabbos for a simche, so basically I have from Sunday noon till Monday afternoon. My flight is 4pm. I don't mind staying in Zurich (and then I won't have to pay for hotel) but I especially booked the return for Monday so we can have a mini vacation or at least some time for attractions. Do you have any ideas? Shall I just go to Lucerne as suggested in the wiki? Even winter?

And mainly I need more information on what passes I should buy and how to get it cheaply.
Consider Engelberg which is a 45 minute train ride from Luzern (2-2.5 hour from Zurich) along the way their are stunning views .It offers everything for a mini vacation. Mega views of snowy mountains and strolling the streets would be nice too. There is a major attraction there called Titles but since you'll have to leave to the airport before 12:00pm you wouldn't have time for it . They don't have any chain hotel there but they do have fancy private hotels. If you want i can upload some photos of Engelberg (in summer).

Luzern would be  the next option which is a hour 15 minute train ride from Zurich, they do have nice chain hotels (not spg) and is a nice city which is surrounded with mountains, nothing close to Engelberg, but with limited time its a fair option.

 About the HalbTax pass, i ordered it a month in advance from a website i don't remember which one. I would say you should go the the SBB customer service center  in the airport and ask for it.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: The Guy on January 28, 2015, 11:37:09 AM
About the HalbTax pass, i ordered it a month in advance from a website i don't remember which one. I would say you should go the the SBB customer service center  in the airport and ask for it.

Doesn't it cost CHF 175 for 1 year ?
Is it worth it for me if I will be traveling from ZRH to Crans Montana, and back - almost 4 hours each.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 28, 2015, 12:33:30 PM
Doesn't it cost CHF 175 for 1 year ?
Is it worth it for me if I will be traveling from ZRH to Crans Montana, and back - almost 4 hours each.
98 euro for 30 days HERE (http://www.raileurope-world.com/pass/swiss-half-fare-card?cmpid=AF020819000102) or HERE (http://www.swisstravelsystem.com/en/tickets/swiss-half-fare-card.html#details)
If i will find a better price i will post it.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: The Guy on January 28, 2015, 12:47:44 PM
98 euro for 1 year HERE (http://www.raileurope-world.com/pass/swiss-half-fare-card?cmpid=AF020819000102) or HERE (http://www.swisstravelsystem.com/en/tickets/swiss-half-fare-card.html#details)
If i will find a better price i will post it.

When I buy it at SBB I can pick up upon arrival in airport,but with these where do I pick up the card?
I am traveling Feb 8 will they be able to ship it to me in Israel?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on January 28, 2015, 12:49:21 PM
98 euro for 1 year HERE (http://www.raileurope-world.com/pass/swiss-half-fare-card?cmpid=AF020819000102) or HERE (http://www.swisstravelsystem.com/en/tickets/swiss-half-fare-card.html#details)
If i will find a better price i will post it.
Just to make it clear, you pay this 100 euro to get the train price drop in half? does it pay for you going and coming one time to crans montana from zurich?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 28, 2015, 12:50:52 PM
Doesn't it cost CHF 175 for 1 year ?
Is it worth it for me if I will be traveling from ZRH to Crans Montana, and back - almost 4 hours each.

Just to make it clear, you pay this 100 euro to get the train price drop in half? does it pay for you going and coming one time to crans montana from zurich?
I checked it, the train costs 106 francs each way. with the halbtax it will cost you only 106 for both ways. if you are planning to take any more train, tram, boat, bus or cable car then it  definitely is worth it. [Or if you find someone that will go in the summer you can buy an annual pass and divide with him...]
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 28, 2015, 12:52:50 PM
When I buy it at SBB I can pick up upon arrival in airport,but with these where do I pick up the card?
I am traveling Feb 8 will they be able to ship it to me in Israel?
Tough question. I imagine you can get it in the airport, but i'm not sure.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on January 28, 2015, 12:53:16 PM
98 euro for 1 year HERE (http://www.raileurope-world.com/pass/swiss-half-fare-card?cmpid=AF020819000102) or HERE (http://www.swisstravelsystem.com/en/tickets/swiss-half-fare-card.html#details)
If i will find a better price i will post it.
Both links say its for one month
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: The Guy on January 28, 2015, 01:01:31 PM
I checked it, the train costs 106 francs each way. with the halbtax it will cost you only 106 for both ways. if you are planning to take any more train (or cable car) it is worth it. [Or if you find someone that will go in the summer you can buy an annual pass and divide with him...]

I wont get a photo ID on it?
Two people could share 1 card?

So maybe if I find someone here going within the month of me before or after and we could split the monthly card would be great,or only a yearly card can be shared?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 28, 2015, 01:05:28 PM
I wont get a photo ID on it?
Two people could share 1 card?

So maybe if I find someone here going within the month of me before or after and we could split the monthly card would be great,or only a yearly card can be shared?
No photo id, just your name printed. (Actually its possible that on an annual pass there is photo, not sure) Its for 1 person but if you find someone else you can share with him i.e. one day you and one day him.

I did see one couple who sat in different carts and when the conductor punched the card for person #1 he ran and gave the halb tax card to his spouse... not recommended!!  ;)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 28, 2015, 01:11:29 PM
@vacationlover mentioned something about a halbtax card. its unlimited travel for all transportation. designed for tourists.. if you can stay at the park hyatt zurich its stunning...

Doesn't it cost CHF 175 for 1 year ?
Is it worth it for me if I will be traveling from ZRH to Crans Montana, and back - almost 4 hours each.

Just to make it clear, you pay this 100 euro to get the train price drop in half? does it pay for you going and coming one time to crans montana from zurich?
Just found the link for the card that gives you unlimited days + 30 day halbtax
http://www.raileurope.com/rail-tickets-passes/swiss-pass/index.html
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 28, 2015, 01:16:03 PM
In a few days i hope to update the wiki with info on attractions and also all about the Halbtax pass, it looks like there is a lot of confusion going on here.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: The Guy on January 28, 2015, 01:16:47 PM
In a few days i hope to update the wiki with info on attractions and also all about the Halbtax pass, it looks like there is a lot of confusion going on here.

Thanks, really appreciated.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on January 28, 2015, 01:56:10 PM
In a few days i hope to update the wiki with info on attractions and also all about the Halbtax pass, it looks like there is a lot of confusion going on here.
That would be greatly appreciated. I am also doing a 21 hr layover in Zurich in mid February (landing 7:15 on Sunday eve and leaving on 5:00 flight Monday) and was wondering what my options are. Is going down to Grindelwald to get a peak at the Eiger/Jungfrau to ambitious?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 28, 2015, 02:11:33 PM
That would be greatly appreciated. I am also doing a 21 hr layover in Zurich in mid February (landing 7:15 on Sunday eve and leaving on 5:00 flight Monday) and was wondering what my options are. Is going down to Grindelwald to get a peak at the Eiger/Jungfrau to ambitious?
Jungfrau is a 4 hour train ride from Zurich not sure if it is worthwhile
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 28, 2015, 05:10:28 PM
Thanks, really appreciated.

That would be greatly appreciated.
I updated the wiki!
BL"N when I will have time I will fill in the info on the attractions.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on January 28, 2015, 05:13:33 PM
I added my TR to the wiki
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 28, 2015, 05:24:31 PM
I added my TR to the wiki
add it to this http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2882.0
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: davmtl on January 28, 2015, 11:57:58 PM
I updated the wiki!
Thank you!!! You just made my life (sorry, trip) a whole lot easier!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on January 29, 2015, 12:30:52 AM
add it to this http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2882.0

Im not sure how to make words look like a link
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: D93 on January 29, 2015, 02:11:14 AM
Im not sure how to make words look like a link
Quote my post and you'll see how it's done (http://Forums.DansDeals.com)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 29, 2015, 07:19:26 AM
Im not sure how to make words look like a link
Insert hyperlink. Or i can do it for you, or something fishy can do it. He is one of the nicest people around.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on January 29, 2015, 09:21:17 AM

I updated the wiki!
BL"N when I will have time I will fill in the info on the attractions.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 29, 2015, 10:01:20 AM
Doesn't it cost CHF 175 for 1 year ?
Is it worth it for me if I will be traveling from ZRH to Crans Montana, and back - almost 4 hours each.
Check the wiki i keep on updating it... I clarified that there is a Youth Pass. If you are 26 y/o or younger, definitely worth a 3 day prepaid card!! your total price will be $187 and you get 3 unlimited days!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mosh47 on February 01, 2015, 12:10:06 PM
after reading throu this thread I came up with a 3 day trip from wed mor to sun mor wed mt titlis thurs st moritz fri Luzern mt pilatis we will be staying in luzerzn does this make sense ? we were thinking of going skiing in st moritz is ther a better place and any cheap  ? any info would be appreciated 
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 01, 2015, 12:48:43 PM
after reading throu this thread I came up with a 3 day trip from wed mor to sun mor wed mt titlis thurs st moritz fri Luzern mt pilatis we will be staying in luzerzn does this make sense ? we were thinking of going skiing in st moritz is ther a better place and any cheap  ? any info would be appreciated
Sounds good. You might wanna do Saas-Fee instead of st. Moritz either way check on sbb.ch/en how much time it takes to travel from Titlis  to St. Moritz/saas-fee . And cheapest would be a 3 or 4 day prepaid swiss card, check wiki about that card.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mosh47 on February 01, 2015, 05:52:20 PM
Your saying saas-fee is better for skiing ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 01, 2015, 06:01:59 PM
Your saying saas-fee is better for skiing ?
Just realized you are a new guy here, welcome!

I was never yet at St. Morirz i was only by Saas-Fee and its stunned and is known for skiing. I am mentioning Saas-Fee cuz it might be closer to Lucerne than St. Moritz but check it on sbb to verify
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mosh47 on February 01, 2015, 07:03:37 PM
thanx
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: The Guy on February 04, 2015, 12:08:39 PM
Check the wiki i keep on updating it... I clarified that there is a Youth Pass. If you are 26 y/o or younger, definitely worth a 3 day prepaid card!! your total price will be $187 and you get 3 unlimited days!

Maybe add to the wiki about the "transfer ticket"

http://www.sbb.ch/en/leisure-holidays/holidays--short-breaks-in-switzerland/swisstravelsystem/swiss-transfer.html

If I take the option to pre pay three days,what should I use when going out each day on the mountains on cable cars or trains if needed?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 04, 2015, 12:13:23 PM
Maybe add to the wiki about the "transfer ticket"

http://www.sbb.ch/en/leisure-holidays/holidays--short-breaks-in-switzerland/swisstravelsystem/swiss-transfer.html

If I take the option to pre pay three days,what should I use when going out each day on the mountains on cable cars or trains if needed?
Ha? You can purchase the prepaid travel card with many options for halbtax days. i.e. 3 days unlimited travel and 7days halbtax.

I never knew about the transfer ticket. You can add it to the wiki as i am not familiar with that
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: The Guy on February 04, 2015, 12:25:26 PM
Ha? You can purchase the prepaid travel card with many options for halbtax days. i.e. 3 days unlimited travel and 7days halbtax.
Wow, I don't realize that before.

On another note add to the wiki the hotel in Crans Montana.
When I was searching for a kosher hotel everyone told me only arosa.
In Crans Montana I hear it's nicer and 1000 chf cheaper per week.
Meir klein from Belgium takes the hotel for a few month in the year.
Hotelmk@gmail.com
0032485640498
003233011600
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: The Guy on February 04, 2015, 12:32:49 PM
From the wiki
Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive.

I sent an email to sbb, and they told me no need to order in advance I could come and buy in the airport.

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 04, 2015, 12:34:57 PM
Wow, I don't realize that before.

On another note add to the wiki the hotel in Crans Montana.
When I was searching for a kosher hotel everyone told me only arosa.
In Crans Montana I hear it's nicer and 1000 chf cheaper per week.
Meir klein from Belgium takes the hotel for a few month in the year.
Hotelmk@gmail.com
0032485640498
003233011600
Crons Montana/Montana (announced as Cra'an Montana as its on the french side of Switzerland) is stunning. Minyan all year round. But, not much activities besides skiing (i guess for some its not a con) i added to the wiki but didn't fill out the info cuz its very complicated...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 04, 2015, 12:36:40 PM
From the wiki
Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive.

I sent an email to sbb, and they told me no need to order in advance I could come and buy in the airport.
Yes but

1)to avoid the line
2) they might ask for proof that you are 26 or younger...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on February 04, 2015, 04:11:11 PM
Does it make sense to visit one day with stop over in zurich? in May, stop is 13 hours about full day, how much can be covered in one day? Thanks.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on February 04, 2015, 04:14:20 PM
You can probably hop over to Luceren
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on February 05, 2015, 11:56:28 AM
You can probably hop over to Luceren
is that the main area? or must see when visiting zurich?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on February 05, 2015, 03:11:15 PM
You can probably hop over to Luceren
Around how long does it take to get from Zurich to top of Pilatus and back?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 05, 2015, 03:13:11 PM
Around how long does it take to get from Zurich to top of Pilatus and back?
Zurich to top of Pilatus a little less than 2 hours
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on February 05, 2015, 10:43:54 PM
Zurich to top of Pilatus a little less than 2 hours
how much time about do you need at the Pilatus ? The easiest way to get there from the airport? Car? Train?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 05, 2015, 11:42:35 PM
how much time about do you need at the Pilatus ? The easiest way to get there from the airport? Car? Train?
Train to Lucerne then train to Pilatus. You need approx 1-4 hours
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on February 06, 2015, 10:20:20 AM
Train to Lucerne then train to Pilatus. You need approx 1-4 hours
From ZRH I can take train to Lucerne and then Train to Pilatus? Train travel time to Pilatus? Thanks.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 06, 2015, 10:32:48 AM
From ZRH I can take train to Lucerne and then Train to Pilatus? Train travel time to Pilatus? Thanks.
Train ride from Zürich Flughafen to Luzern = 1 hour 2 minute. From Luzern to Kriens, Pilatus-Bahnen = 30 minutes.
You can check here http://fahrplan.sbb.ch/bin/query.exe/en

And another 20 minute for the Cogwheel. Keep in mind, you might have to wait for every train to come so always leave some extra extra time, especially if you are leaving Pilatus via chairlift, that requires a 10-15 minute walk to the tram and another 15 minute ride to the main train station, again "always leave extra time".
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on February 08, 2015, 11:31:06 AM
If I am understanding correctly it looks like top of Pilatus is closed until March 31 and you can only go up till frakmuntegg. Is that still worth the trip from Zurich ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 08, 2015, 11:45:48 AM
If I am understanding correctly it looks like top of Pilatus is closed until March 31 and you can only go up till frakmuntegg. Is that still worth the trip from Zurich ?
How many hours do you have in Switzerland?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on February 08, 2015, 11:46:59 AM
Landing sunday eve aprox 7:15 flight out the next day at 5:00 p.m.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 08, 2015, 11:50:18 AM
Landing sunday eve aprox 7:15 flight out the next day at 5:00 p.m.
Why wouldn't you concider Titlis? Titlis which is only 2 hours from ZRH has much nicer views and the train station is 3 minutes from the entrance.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on February 08, 2015, 12:03:07 PM
Stay in engelberg overnight or is it doable from Zurich in a day
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 08, 2015, 12:08:32 PM
Stay in engelberg overnight or is it doable from Zurich in a day
Stay in Engelberg or at least in Lucerne. Don't forget you have only till about 1:00pm when you have to leave for ZRH
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on February 08, 2015, 12:21:32 PM
Yea. It seems like a lot to cram in. I am thinking of just taking park hyatt in Zurich and saving the alps for next time when I can do them properly.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 08, 2015, 12:28:09 PM
Yea. It seems like a lot to cram in. I am thinking of just taking park hyatt in Zurich and saving the alps for next time when I can do them properly.
That's fine with me   you can go shopping in Zurich. C&A etc. Nice stores over there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on February 08, 2015, 12:29:31 PM
Thanks for the info
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 16, 2015, 04:48:23 AM
What's the earliest Shachris minyan I can get in Zurich on a Thursday (3/19)?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on February 16, 2015, 07:23:25 AM
Yea. It seems like a lot to cram in. I am thinking of just taking park hyatt in Zurich and saving the alps for next time when I can do them properly.

If youre staying in the park hyatt dont show up late at night. Otherwise just stay in the radisson blu
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 16, 2015, 08:34:02 AM
What's the earliest Shachris minyan I can get in Zurich on a Thursday (3/19)?
I didn't check all but Agudas Achim (biggest Minyonim center) has a 6:45 minyan

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Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 16, 2015, 08:55:33 AM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on February 16, 2015, 09:16:46 AM

If youre staying in the park hyatt dont show up late at night. Otherwise just stay in the radisson blu
Park hyatt far from the airport so not worth the shlep?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 16, 2015, 10:14:11 PM
I want to go this summer again to Switzerland. But this time for some reason i wont be able to leave behind my 6 month old daughter (will be 1 year then) I know many people from Europe that go with kids but they don't do the major attractions, they go to local parks but that's obviously not what I'm looking for. I want to go for a week and enjoy maxi but i have my daughter in my way... can anyone who was in this dilemma advise how we can make it work? I was thinking of a baby carrier but am skeptical if it will work, also i wont be able to go too high up since the oxygen level is low and might be dangerous for a baby.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on March 09, 2015, 11:42:18 AM
Anyone knows if/where there is a Shull in the summer in Klosters? (near Davos)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 12, 2015, 05:23:32 AM
What's the best dairy restaurant and the best meat resteraunt in Zurich?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 12, 2015, 05:34:09 AM
Radisson Blu is pretty nice and very convenient from airport. For me personally schlep to city would be worth it just for a 5 min lake on Banhoffstrasse and the lake, but you can do that after checking in at Radisson. 
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yoelygb on April 13, 2015, 12:34:39 AM
I received a speeding ticket in the mail today because I speeded in Luzerne what is the risk of not paying it is don't live in Switzerland or in the eu
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on April 13, 2015, 01:06:25 AM
If you plan on going back in the next 10 years pay it or it will be very expensive next time when you cross the border
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on May 05, 2015, 09:14:19 AM
Did anyone stay at the kosher program of Tour Plus in Wengen or Galitzky in St. moritz that could share their experience?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: CR on May 05, 2015, 12:15:15 PM
I need some insiders advice please. I am planning a 4 day trip for my parents to Switzerland (part of a stopover to Israel) in August. These are the tentative plans:
Firday: arrive in Zurich in AM.  Public transportation to Lucerne. Drop off luggage at hotel or shabbos accommodations (not planned yet) buy Golden Ticket and do the Mt Pilatus trip.
Shabbos: Was thinking of spending it in Lucerne, any idea for shabbos hospitality? (parents are on low budget) 
Sunday: Mt Titlis (http://www.titlis.ch/en) do lots of the recommended summer activities, travel to Zurich in evening - stay in hotel in Zurich overnight.
Monday: Tour Zurich ???, train back to airport and catch flight to TLV in evening.

1) Use of public transportation, I notice so many kinds of passes available and its a bit overwhelming. What kind of pass would be best to get based on their activities and travel plans?
2) Shabbos accommodations in Lucerne , for meals and accommodations. (I thought it would be more scenic and relaxing for them since they are not "city" people.) Any leads to find hosts for shabbos?
3) Regarding hotels in Zurich with starwood points, which one is the nicest location?
4) Ideas for day trip in Zurich to do on Monday?

Any advice would be appreciated, thank you for your input.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on May 05, 2015, 12:19:14 PM
I need some insiders advice please. I am planning a 4 day trip for my parents to Switzerland (part of a stopover to Israel) in August. These are the tentative plans:
Firday: arrive in Zurich in AM.  Public transportation to Lucerne. Drop off luggage at hotel or shabbos accommodations (not planned yet) buy Golden Ticket and do the Mt Pilatus trip.
Shabbos: Was thinking of spending it in Lucerne, any idea for shabbos hospitality? (parents are on low budget) 
Sunday: Mt Titlis (http://www.titlis.ch/en) do lots of the recommended summer activities, travel to Zurich in evening - stay in hotel in Zurich overnight.
Monday: Tour Zurich ???, train back to airport and catch flight to TLV in evening.

1) Use of public transportation, I notice so many kinds of passes available and its a bit overwhelming. What kind of pass would be best to get based on their activities and travel plans?
2) Shabbos accommodations in Lucerne , for meals and accommodations. (I thought it would be more scenic and relaxing for them since they are not "city" people.) Any leads to find hosts for shabbos?
3) Regarding hotels in Zurich with starwood points, which one is the nicest location?
4) Ideas for day trip in Zurich to do on Monday?

Any advice would be appreciated, thank you for your input.
1) Just buy a Halb Tax pass, that would give you half fare on trains and attractions.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: CR on May 05, 2015, 09:49:20 PM
The website says that from 8/1 it will be 175 CHF for the year, is it worth it for the couple of days? or is there another pass that would give them a discount?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on May 05, 2015, 10:33:30 PM
The website says that from 8/1 it will be 175 CHF for the year, is it worth it for the couple of days? or is there another pass that would give them a discount?
Buy a 30 day pass http://www.raileurope.com/rail-tickets-passes/swiss-pass/index.html
http://www.raileurope-world.com/pass/swiss-half-fare-card?cmpid=AF020819000102
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: CR on May 06, 2015, 01:15:01 PM
Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: CR on May 14, 2015, 09:26:04 AM
Any advice on starwood hotels in Zurich, which one is recommended?
Sheraton Zurich Neues Schloss Hotel, Sheraton Zurich Hotel or Four Points by Sheraton Sihlcity - Zurich.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 14, 2015, 10:35:38 AM
Don't have Hyatt points? Park Hyatt is awesome
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: CR on May 14, 2015, 01:16:36 PM
Not for me, its for my parents. Need only spg.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on May 15, 2015, 07:34:32 AM
What should I do for a 15 hour stopover in ZRH?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on May 15, 2015, 09:25:13 AM
What should I do for a 15 hour stopover in ZRH?
If it is during the day then probably Pilatus

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=973.msg1054365#msg1054365
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ddfried on May 15, 2015, 09:58:46 AM
I have been lurking on ddf for weeks trying to find the perfect vacation idea. I want to take my 4 kids (ages 1-7 on a memorable summer trip. I would love to settle in somewhere with a scenic view that has attractions within an hour drive of the hotel.

I have been to Vermont, New hampshire, Bushkill falls and Pennsylvania. I want to try something out of the typical but I can't seem to find anything that fits the bill. All of the above mentioned vacation spots I have been to for a week and was a smashing success. Don't want to lower my expectations ..

Any ideas would be appreciated,  the ones with hands on experience get extra credit...

Thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on May 15, 2015, 10:49:17 AM
I have been lurking on ddf for weeks trying to find the perfect vacation idea. I want to take my 4 kids (ages 1-7 on a memorable summer trip. I would love to settle in somewhere with a scenic view that has attractions within an hour drive of the hotel.

I have been to Vermont, New hampshire, Bushkill falls and Pennsylvania. I want to try something out of the typical but I can't seem to find anything that fits the bill. All of the above mentioned vacation spots I have been to for a week and was a smashing success. Don't want to lower my expectations ..

Any ideas would be appreciated,  the ones with hands on experience get extra credit...

Thanks
Please post here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=20823.0

It depends on your budget, Age of children etc. Again, please post in the thread designated for your question.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on June 03, 2015, 06:13:55 PM
What should I do for a 15 hour stopover in ZRH?
went to Titlis.... It was amazing.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on June 10, 2015, 07:55:29 AM
Can you buy or order kosher food in Saas Fee?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on June 10, 2015, 08:16:16 AM
No.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saver on June 14, 2015, 10:40:15 PM
Hi! I have been searching the threads but didn't read through everything. We are iyh flying into Geneva for two days. There were cheap tickets from Israel and we were able to pay with miles from Geneva to NY.  Now we are wondering where you recommend staying or going.  Any ideas?  Would you take a train to Zurich? Or somewhere in France? or in Switzerland?  Any recommendation of where to stay that is affordable and nice in the $100 range?  We are only two people. Please tell me your recommendations and if there are any places to eat.  We don't mind taking a train somewhere not too far. But, we only speak English.
Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on June 14, 2015, 10:55:12 PM
Hi! I have been searching the threads but didn't read through everything. We are iyh flying into Geneva for two days. There were cheap tickets from Israel and we were able to pay with miles from Geneva to NY.  Now we are wondering where you recommend staying or going.  Any ideas?  Would you take a train to Zurich? Or somewhere in France? or in Switzerland?  Any recommendation of where to stay that is affordable and nice in the $100 range?  We are only two people. Please tell me your recommendations and if there are any places to eat.  We don't mind taking a train somewhere not too far. But, we only speak English.
Thanks so much!
Zurich is really far from GVA not worth traveling there. the closest major attractions IN SWITZERLAND would be Montana, (about 3 hours) or Saas Fee, GVA also has a huge lake with boat rides if that interests you. I think that France (less than an hour from GVA) offers some nice attractions but i don't know details

Regarding hotels, SPG has a few nice hotels in GVA, other than that you can search on any travel site for a cheap hotel or contact the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana for complete Kosher needs (probably pricey) you can find that in the wikipedia
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saver on June 14, 2015, 11:21:29 PM
thanks so much for your response. Would you instead go to Lyon, France?  It is only one hour and 44 minutes away?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on June 14, 2015, 11:59:05 PM
thanks so much for your response. Would you instead go to Lyon, France?  It is only one hour and 44 minutes away?
It's up to you.

Me personally would go to Saas Fee in the summer (and Montana in the winter).

Actually As per Trip Advisor Lyon is a regular touristy city without alps, in that case you are better off staying in Geneva. GVA is nice, very nice! it offers a beutiful lake and a lot of historic sites and parks. So it depends if you want to see, feel and breath the Swiss alps or you are fine with regular touring which in that case GVA is more than enough
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: flyingace on June 21, 2015, 09:10:06 AM
Stopping in Switzerland for 10 hours. Landing in ZRH and departing GVA. Is there an Alps destination that would make sense between the two?
Should we take connecting flight from ZRH to GVA and spend some time in GVA instead of trying for something in the mountains?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on June 21, 2015, 09:25:55 AM
Stopping in Switzerland for 10 hours. Landing in ZRH and departing GVA. Is there an Alps destination that would make sense between the two?
Should we take connecting flight from ZRH to GVA and spend some time in GVA instead of trying for something in the mountains?
this is a tough question.

Option 1) travel from ZRH to GVA via train is about 5-6 hours or more, depending on your route. So that wouldn't give you enough time for actual touring but WILL give you a nice (full screen...) view of nice and beautiful sceneries.[You may want to travel via scenic city's/towns

Option 2) fly ZRH-GVA probably with 15k UA points. But still wouldn't give you enough time to travel to any attraction not to mention no time to enjoy. But WILL give you some time in GVA for a boat ride etc.

So probably option 1 is better for views and option 2 is better for local touring (not mountains)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saver on June 21, 2015, 10:01:09 AM
Thanks for the tips, at the end, we are iyh planning to fly into Geneva and stay overnight in Wengen and the following night stay near the Geneva airport. Any ideas for an affordable hotel where to stay in Geneva?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on June 21, 2015, 10:14:30 AM
Thanks for the tips, at the end, we are iyh planning to fly into Geneva and stay overnight in Wengen and the following night stay near the Geneva airport. Any ideas for an affordable hotel where to stay in Geneva?
check on kayak.com etc for hotels. Where in Wengen are you staying?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: flyingace on June 21, 2015, 10:56:19 AM
this is a tough question.

Option 1) travel from ZRH to GVA via train is about 5-6 hours or more, depending on your route. So that wouldn't give you enough time for actual touring but WILL give you a nice (full screen...) view of nice and beautiful sceneries.[You may want to travel via scenic city's/towns

Option 2) fly ZRH-GVA probably with 15k UA points. But still wouldn't give you enough time to travel to any attraction not to mention no time to enjoy. But WILL give you some time in GVA for a boat ride etc.

So probably option 1 is better for views and option 2 is better for local touring (not mountains)
Will be able to connect at no charge with a one hour connection time. That sounds like the better choice.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on June 21, 2015, 01:56:43 PM
thanks so much for your response. Would you instead go to Lyon, France?  It is only one hour and 44 minutes away?

If you're looking for kosher, not much pickings in Lyon. I used to go there every month or two for about 8 years!

5 pizza places, 3 sushi places, and one burger place. Last time there was a new chinese place, but not sure it will last...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on June 21, 2015, 02:44:04 PM
Which kosher hotel is the closest to ZRH or GVA?

I want to stay in Switzerland with my family in August, but afaik most the kosher hotels are at least 2.5 to 3.5 hrs away.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on June 21, 2015, 02:48:19 PM
Which kosher hotel is the closest to ZRH or GVA?

I want to stay in Switzerland with my family in August, but afaik most the kosher hotels are at least 2.5 to 3.5 hrs away.
If you are referring to kosher hotels on the alps then your closest options are 2-3 hr.
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Post by: VacationLover on June 21, 2015, 04:40:19 PM
Which kosher hotel is the closest to ZRH or GVA?

I want to stay in Switzerland with my family in August, but afaik most the kosher hotels are at least 2.5 to 3.5 hrs away.
The known Kosher hotels are;
Arosa = 2 hours from Zurich
Crans Montana = 3.5 hours from GVA
Wengen = 4 hours from Zurich or from Geneva
St Moritz = 5 hours from both.
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Post by: moish on June 21, 2015, 07:06:02 PM
davos?
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Post by: VacationLover on June 21, 2015, 07:07:49 PM
davos?
No Kosher hotel there
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Post by: ABC on June 21, 2015, 07:17:45 PM
The known Kosher hotels are;
Arosa = 2 hours from Zurich
Crans Montana = 3.5 hours from GVA
Wengen = 4 hours from Zurich or from Geneva
St Moritz = 5 hours from both.
To Crans Montana from GVA should be 2.5 from ZRH it's 3.5

The hotel is open in the summer July -August.
I was there in the winter and really enjoyed it.
The food is excellent there,I met the cook this week shaboss in Jerusalem he said he is leaving this week to prepare so maybe the hotel wil open this week already.
In the summer you won't have skiing snow tubing..... But there's a nice lake that was frozen in the winter and it's not far from Saas Fee which has lots of activities.
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Post by: ABC on June 21, 2015, 07:18:25 PM
No Kosher hotel there

In the summer Levin's son runs a kosher hotel there.
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Post by: VacationLover on June 21, 2015, 07:23:36 PM
In the summer Levin's son runs a kosher hotel there.
as far as i know (I am going this summer so i made some research) he provides food and can accommodate in apartments but no official hotel.

If you know otherwise then don't hesitate to post info about that hotel
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on June 22, 2015, 04:51:59 PM
I am thinking of coming this weekend to Switzerland landing on Thursday leaving  on Monday what r the best kosher place to stay in the alphas with kosher food and what should i do i am coming with a 17 month baby ?
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Post by: VacationLover on June 22, 2015, 05:02:13 PM
I am thinking of coming this weekend to Switzerland landing on Thursday leaving  on Monday what r the best kosher place to stay in the alphas with kosher food and what should i do i am coming with a 17 month baby ?
Highly recommended although pricey http://en.tourplus.co.il/kosher-summer-vacation-2015-e-switzerland-2

When you decide where you are going i can try to help for attractions.

ETA you can check the WIKI for the other two Kosher hotels that are already open
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Post by: sam28 on June 22, 2015, 05:08:40 PM
Highly recommended although pricey http://en.tourplus.co.il/kosher-summer-vacation-2015-e-switzerland-2

When you decide where you are going i can try to help for attractions.

how far is this from the airport ? and is the food and rooms nice ? I am only going to be there for 4 night since I have to be back in London for a wadding on Monday
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Post by: VacationLover on June 22, 2015, 05:16:48 PM
how far is this from the airport ? and is the food and rooms nice ? I am only going to be there for 4 night since I have to be back in London for a wadding on Monday
It is about 3 hours from ZRH or from GVA, rooms are... for a Kosher hotel decent. (the pictures on their site is absolutely fake or a decade old) that's IN the hotel, the outside is Gorgeous but the food is unbeatable. Really, it is insane awesome.

This picture is from the balcony

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Post by: sam28 on June 22, 2015, 05:22:38 PM
wow its far .is Levine hotel also that far ? do you have more pictures  ? what is there to do out there ? is the train ride nice from the airport ?

do you have any pictures of the out side of the hotel .
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Post by: VacationLover on June 22, 2015, 05:26:17 PM
wow its far .is Levine hotel also that far ? do you have more pictures  ? what is there to do out there ? is the train ride nice from the airport ?

do you have any pictures of the out side of the hotel .
Levins hotel is 1.5-2 hours from ZRH, but old and shabby plus no major attractions close by. This is only 3 hours 8 minutes from ZRH and has the #1 rated view in Switzerland. you can read my TR which i cover when i was at this hotel what i did in the area (scroll down after Venice) http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46155.msg964500#msg964500
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yo on June 22, 2015, 06:43:02 PM
anyone know of a good driver in Lucerne or zurich. Would like someone Jewish
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Post by: moish on June 22, 2015, 06:46:28 PM
what are the tour plus prices?
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Post by: VacationLover on June 22, 2015, 07:17:14 PM
what are the tour plus prices?
Email them.
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Post by: moish on June 22, 2015, 07:20:37 PM
Email them.
ok. i thought you knew since you referred to them as pricey
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Post by: moish on July 05, 2015, 12:43:00 PM
it does appear that levin has a hotel in davos

www.levinarosa.com
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Post by: Yikes2179 on July 05, 2015, 02:29:23 PM
I am asking this for a friend who is going to Switzerland - if someone could help i would appreciate it. Does the Swiss Travel Pass recommended in the Switzerland wiki cover the golden round trip from Luzern/Pilatus?
Thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on July 05, 2015, 02:48:42 PM
I am asking this for a friend who is going to Switzerland - if someone could help i would appreciate it. Does the Swiss Travel Pass recommended in the Switzerland wiki cover the golden round trip from Luzern/Pilatus?
Thanks
If it's public transportation - it's free.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on July 05, 2015, 03:37:13 PM
Is the boat ride public transportation?
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Post by: VacationLover on July 05, 2015, 03:39:51 PM
Is the boat ride public transportation?
Yes
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Post by: Yikes2179 on July 05, 2015, 03:55:17 PM
Yes
Thanks alot - just to clarify will it cover the cable car as well?
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Post by: VacationLover on July 05, 2015, 03:57:46 PM
Thanks alot - just to clarify will it cover the cable car as well?
It says very clear in the WIKI = yes
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Post by: Yikes2179 on July 05, 2015, 04:03:32 PM
It says very clear in the WIKI = yes
Thank you
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Post by: VacationLover on July 05, 2015, 04:05:22 PM
Thank you
It gives you by cabal cars half price
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Post by: rileywiles23 on July 05, 2015, 04:29:11 PM
Does geneva have a eiruv ?
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Post by: VacationLover on July 05, 2015, 07:00:34 PM
Does geneva have a eiruv ?
No. I don't know of any European city (besides Venice with an Eirev)
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Post by: moish on July 05, 2015, 07:08:00 PM
No. I don't know of any European city (besides Venice with an Eirev)
i think vienna has one
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Post by: rileywiles23 on July 05, 2015, 08:31:16 PM

i think vienna has one
Now if only AC wouldn't charge YQ on Austrian.
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Post by: efflpetzel on July 05, 2015, 11:17:25 PM

No. I don't know of any European city (besides Venice with an Eirev)
london?
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Post by: Chapshnell on July 05, 2015, 11:19:01 PM
no, london doesnt have.. being discussed though..
Title: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Mech on July 11, 2015, 05:53:30 PM
I have a 9 1/2 stopover in ZRH. Arriving at 8:10 am departing at 5:45 pm. I was thinking of going to Lucerne and doing the  golden rt (Lucerne Pilatus). I spoke to someone from Switzerland last night and he told me not to go to Lucerne, rather stay in Zurich. I'm looking for a "second opinion". Am I stretching it? I know it's about an hr train ride ZRH-Lucerne, but maybe I'll be able to squeeze it in...?? What time would I have to leave Lucerne to make it back to the airport?
Any tips is greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on July 12, 2015, 12:39:24 PM
I have a 9 1/2 stopover in ZRH. Arriving at 8:10 am departing at 5:45 pm. I was thinking of going to Lucerne and doing the  golden rt (Lucerne Pilatus). I spoke to someone from Switzerland last night and he told me not to go to Lucerne, rather stay in Zurich. I'm looking for a "second opinion". Am I stretching it? I know it's about an hr train ride ZRH-Lucerne, but maybe I'll be able to squeeze it in...?? What time would I have to leave Lucerne to make it back to the airport?
Any tips is greatly appreciated!
I don’t see why you should not squeeze it in. If it is a nice weather and you like nature then go. Even to be there for one hour pays!
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Post by: Mech on July 12, 2015, 01:09:41 PM

I don’t see why you should not squeeze it in. If it is a nice weather and you like nature then go. Even to be there for one hour pays!
Thanx! Sounds like a plan! What time do you think I should leave Lucerne back to the airport to make a 5:45 pm flight?
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Post by: VacationLover on July 13, 2015, 10:55:37 AM
Thanx! Sounds like a plan! What time do you think I should leave Lucerne back to the airport to make a 5:45 pm flight?
It depends how fast you walk :), when the next train is etc. When you arrive there use your own judgment of when to leave. I would assume you should head down not later than 1:00 pm
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 13, 2015, 11:20:28 AM
Is it possible to eat at Maljoa palace/galitsky without staying there?
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Post by: G11600 on July 13, 2015, 01:19:24 PM
no, london doesnt have.. being discussed though..

London has at least 6 eiruvim that I am aware of, pretty sure there are more. Also one in Manchester.

Vienna, Amsterdam, Antwerp and Strasbourg also have.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on July 13, 2015, 01:33:27 PM
London has at least 6 eiruvim that I am aware of, pretty sure there are more. Also one in Manchester.

Vienna, Amsterdam, Antwerp and Strasbourg also have.
LOL a few private ones.

Where in Manchester and Antwerpen is there an Eirev?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: GTR on July 13, 2015, 03:23:15 PM
Mulling the possibility of throwing in a 2 day or so stop in Zermatt on an future trip to Europe.  Would like to know if anyone has any trick to getting there and back.  We'll likely be passing through Geneva (though could pass through Zurich if that's better) and I see that the Swiss Transfer Ticket is about $155/ea.  Is this the cheapest option?

Is Zermatt worth the $310 to get there and back for wife and I? 
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Post by: moish on July 13, 2015, 03:31:30 PM
Mulling the possibility of throwing in a 2 day or so stop in Zermatt on an future trip to Europe.  Would like to know if anyone has any trick to getting there and back.  We'll likely be passing through Geneva (though could pass through Zurich if that's better) and I see that the Swiss Transfer Ticket is about $155/ea.  Is this the cheapest option?

Is Zermatt worth the $310 to get there and back for wife and I? 
the symbol of switzerland is located there
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Post by: VacationLover on July 19, 2015, 01:44:59 PM
Anyone knows if/where there is a Shull in the summer in Klosters? (near Davos)
Bump
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Post by: sruly101 on July 21, 2015, 07:35:27 AM
Can you buy the Swiss Travel Pass at Basel Airport?
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Post by: sammy n on July 21, 2015, 07:40:10 AM
Can you buy the Swiss Travel Pass at Basel Airport?
Yes
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Post by: bznt on July 21, 2015, 08:48:55 AM
What are the cell phone options for talk and data in Switzerland?
T-Mobile data works good enough  to use hangouts or magic jack?
Or thee are cheaper sim cards available locally ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on July 21, 2015, 09:04:51 AM
What are the cell phone options for talk and data in Switzerland?
T-Mobile data works good enough  to use hangouts or magic jack?
Or thee are cheaper sim cards available locally ?
I think you can get a sim card for cheap in the airport.
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Post by: VacationLover on July 21, 2015, 09:06:55 AM
Or thee are cheaper sim cards available locally ?
Lebara
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Post by: The Thinker on July 22, 2015, 06:23:48 PM
What's the best thing to do in Switzerland if I'll have one full day there? Arriving at Zurich early AM and leaving next day early AM.
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Post by: VacationLover on July 22, 2015, 06:32:04 PM
What's the best thing to do in Switzerland if I'll have one full day there? Arriving at Zurich early AM and leaving next day early AM.
Titlis in Engelberg then go back and sleep over in hotel near the airport
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Post by: newdaybegin@gmail.com on July 22, 2015, 06:32:25 PM
Hello guys,

I am going to stop at ZRH airport for 1 day next year 3/25/2016, what hotel is near the airport that you have a nice view? how is the weather over there in the end of March? is there any good place for Asia food? Because i travel with my mother so i want to be fully prepare, let me know thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: The Thinker on July 22, 2015, 06:44:59 PM
Titlis in Engelberg then go back and sleep over in hotel near the airport
Thanks. This is better than doing the pilatus?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on July 22, 2015, 07:26:17 PM
Thanks. This is better than doing the pilatus?
If it is a nice weather IMO yes
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Post by: Tzadik Nistar on July 22, 2015, 07:46:31 PM


Hello guys,

I am going to stop at ZRH airport for 1 day next year 3/25/2016, what hotel is near the airport that you have a nice view? how is the weather over there in the end of March? is there any good place for Asia food? Because i travel with my mother so i want to be fully prepare, let me know thanks a lot!

No nice view hotels near the airport (Zurich is city) if you go up to the alps you could get a view.
Cold in the winter
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: The Thinker on July 22, 2015, 08:25:14 PM
If it is a nice weather IMO yes
Any suggestions as to what to do there? Is there snow all year long? Can you get the view there like you can of the pilatus?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on July 22, 2015, 08:34:03 PM
Any suggestions as to what to do there? Is there snow all year long? Can you get the view there like you can of the pilatus?
snow all year round. View is slightly better from Pilatus. Check out the WIKI there should be links to them
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mark timber on July 23, 2015, 11:37:59 AM
witch is the best spg hotel in zurich
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Post by: VacationLover on July 23, 2015, 03:54:52 PM
witch is the best spg hotel in zurich
There is obliviously no answer that fits all. It depends on the location you want, price, view etc.

You can check on spg.com or any travel website like kayak, priceline etc. for pictures and reviews.

(I also highly recommend you should double check your spelling and definitions before posting... )
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on July 23, 2015, 07:29:48 PM
witch is the best spg hotel in zurich

This isnt SPG but stay at the Park Hyatt. You'll thank me.
If you have an early AM flight stay at the radisson blu in the airport
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on July 23, 2015, 07:55:00 PM
A flight TLV-ZRH-FCO connection, do i need to recheck the bags? Or can I check directly  TLV-FCO.

Ive been to ZRH many times but never on a connection, is it a PITA to connect in ZRH?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mark timber on July 27, 2015, 12:56:02 AM
I am going next week to Zurich on points should I stay  davos for 2 days with  spg or in Lucerne with Marriott points ?
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Post by: The Thinker on July 27, 2015, 11:57:55 PM
Is the area near the airport safe? If I were to stay within a mile of the airport is it walkable?
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Post by: VacationLover on July 28, 2015, 12:09:48 AM
Is the area near the area safe?
That area is not so safe. However, the other area near the area is safe  ::)

ETA: I will help you  :), you probably meant to ask near the airport.

I don't know of any hotel within 1 mile. If there is, it is probably not a street mile but an air mile which might be a 4 mile walk (with luggage and all) . There probably is a shuttle or tram/bus to the hotel. I would NOT walk
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Post by: The Thinker on July 28, 2015, 01:04:07 AM
Thanks! Corrected that  :) Found a few on priceline. I'm not booking with any points.. If I want to get going as soon as I land, would my best choice be to check in my luggage at the airport for holding and pick it up late at night? Or I read something about the train station being able to hold my luggage?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LuxJeru on July 28, 2015, 06:55:59 AM
Looking for a recommendation of a nice place to eat breakfast, not to far from airport.

Thanks!
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Post by: LoLo on July 29, 2015, 11:52:14 AM
Do I stand a chance of being upgraded at levin's to a better room in a non-busy season?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hr555 on July 29, 2015, 03:58:51 PM
Do I stand a chance of being upgraded at levin's to a better room in a non-busy season?

They did for me 2 years ago
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on July 31, 2015, 12:52:17 PM
Anyone used citi prestige 4th free night for levin's?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ar on August 02, 2015, 01:18:56 PM
I'm being in Geneva airport area for 12 hours. Any attractions in the area? Any kosher restaurants?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on August 02, 2015, 03:52:51 PM
I'm being in Geneva airport area for 12 hours. Any attractions in the area? Any kosher restaurants?
Only local attractions, maybe a boat ride on lake geneva. No alp attractions in the area
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Post by: LoLo on August 04, 2015, 09:31:59 PM
A bridge in the metropol/levin hotel collapsed, 3 people were taken by helicopter to the hospital.
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Post by: bznt on August 05, 2015, 12:51:54 PM
Any update on the people hurt ? My friend was there and he left on Monday and he is concerned
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on August 05, 2015, 03:43:06 PM
Any update on the people hurt ? My friend was there and he left on Monday and he is concerned
i am here. Everything is okay now. 4 ppl were air lifted last night
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on August 05, 2015, 04:02:21 PM
i am here. Everything is okay now. 4 ppl were air lifted last night
So I shouldn't worry booking for next week?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on August 05, 2015, 07:13:39 PM
i am here. Everything is okay now. 4 ppl were air lifted last night

Happy to hear all is OK. I didnt know you ended up by Levin?! I thought you were going elsewhere.
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Post by: VacationLover on August 06, 2015, 02:18:45 AM
Happy to hear all is OK. I didnt know you ended up by Levin?! I thought you were going elsewhere.
I am not staying there but went yesterday to check it out...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on August 07, 2015, 03:38:28 AM
What am I doing during a 10 hour overnight stopover in GVA? (With wife and infant)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on August 08, 2015, 10:46:00 PM
Any lounge with shower in GVA?
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Post by: Tzadik Nistar on August 18, 2015, 10:12:47 PM
Wengen, Switzerland
We traveled with 3 little kids so basically whatever we did was doable with small children and a stroller.

There is a option of checking in luggage in your departing airport and having the rail crew pick it up and send it directly to wengen, for us traveling with kids it was a must, I can't imagine how we would’ve managed without it as we had to take 4 trains with short connection times to arrive in wengen

Wengen is a beautiful, quaint, car free village laid upon a shelf on the mountain in the Jungfrau region, on the bottom in the valley is lauterbrunnen and from there you take cable cars or trains up to towns and stops on the mountains, wengen is not accessible by car, the only way to get there is by using the beautiful scenic train from lauterbrunnen,

See the map below to understand a bit the region

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We arrived Tuesday night, Wednesday morning when we got up we were greeted by the beautiful view from our balcony

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View from balcony

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Wengen train station

Wednesday
We took a gondola from Wengen up to Mannlichen, it was a beautiful clear day (not worth doing if cloudy, you could go into the information center next to the gondola to check the live cam) up in Mannlichen the view is breathtaking and there is lots of cows with bells roaming around, the kids loved it, also they have a very nice playground for kids with lots of interesting stuff.

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Gondola to Manillchen

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Cows in Manillchen

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View of wengen from Mannlichen

From Mannlichen we took the trail down to kleine scheidegg, in switzerland all trails are clearly marked with the time it takes to do the trail, if it’s a easy trail or not, if the trail is panoramic etc.
the trail from Mannlichen down to Kleine Scheidegg is a easy and beautiful walk with views of the snow capped mountains and the villages in the valley, the trail is 3 miles and the posted time is 1 ½ hr. but as we were walking slowly it took us around 2 ½ hr.

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Views on the trail

Arriving in Kleine Scheidegg you could take trains up to Jungfraujoch (top of europe), we didn't do it as it’s not advised to take up babies and the price of 170 CHF PP wasn't appealing either so we took the train down back to Wengen.

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Lake near Kleine Scheidegg

Thursday
We took the trains to Interlaken from there we took a boat ride on the Brienzersee lake until the last stop in the village of Brienz (it's a 1 ½ hour trip) the color of the lake and the mountains as the backdrop are majestic words just don’t do justice, in brienz we lounged around at the lake a bit and then returned by train.

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Friday
we decided to do Schilthorn it’s just 500 meter lower than Jungfraujoch, it’s cheaper and quicker to get to and there are people that claim that the view is nicer because you are the opposite side of all the big mountains so you have a full view of them all, but unlike Jungfraujoch there is no snow in Schilthorn  and no activities on top, just a viewing platform and a 360 view restaurant.

Going up we took a bus from Lauterbrunnen to Stechelberg, you could walk it very nice walk in the valley with lots of waterfalls coming down from the mountains mid way you could stop at the trummelbach falls it’s waterfalls and caves inside the mountain it’s supposed to be beautiful but we couldn't do it as kids under the age of 3 are not allowed as they claim that the noise is too loud.

From stechelberg you take 4 gondolas to get you a top of schilthorn (no need to walk just change from one gondola to the other on the same platform) as you start going up higher and higher it gets cooler the views atop are breathtaking

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View from Gondola

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Skydiving

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View from Schilthorn

On the way down we took a different route. We took one gondola down to birg, they have a nice skywalk there, it’s a platform with a glass floor sticking out of the mountain.
Then we continued with another gondola to murren (it's a similar village to wengen just the opposite side of the mountain) we walked thru the town, it's a nice town worth a visit, then we continued with a train and a gondola back to Lauterbrunnen

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Birg Skywalk

Sunday
We started to do the Latubrunned to Stechelberg walk but it started raining midway so we headed back.

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Waterfalls Lauterbrunnen

Once the rain stopped, the kids were tired of trains already, so we  took a trail starting in Wengen. Wow did I find out that I was mistaken in thinking that we need to take train trips every day. The trail was beautiful with gorgeous views, waterfalls in middle of the woods, flowers, roosters, cows, quaint huts and the trail ended at a beautiful lookout with benches. After a break and lunch we took the same trail back.

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Wengen

Monday
We just stayed in wengen, plenty trails to do there we took a trail with beautiful views of the Lauterbrunnen valley

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View from wengen of the lauterbrunnen valley

Tuesday
We were heading to stay at a airport hotel for our Wednesday morning flight.
We took the golden express line from Interlaken Ost to Lucerne (the way to ZRH with golden express takes around an hour longer but really worth it) the train ride takes around 2 hours with beautiful views of the alps and multiple lakes. The train has huge windows for viewing (reflecting when trying to take images).

In Lucerne we walked around the old city, structures and bridges, the kids enjoyed feeding the ducks on the lake, it’s worth a visit if you are in the area or have a long stopover in zrh.

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View from Golden Express train


The express train from lucerne to zrh takes one hour from there we checked into our hotel and then the flight home on Wednesday morning.

I have received a guide book from someone on tripadvisor for hikes and trips, written on a wengen base, if you are interested in it PM me

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on August 18, 2015, 10:54:52 PM
Beautiful pics!

Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on August 18, 2015, 11:17:19 PM
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on August 19, 2015, 07:50:36 AM
    wow amazing TR breath taking pictures  . how much did it cost u the trip ? where did u stay ?
Prefer not to say where I stayed as I wasn't happy.
Switzerland is pretty expensive from trains to food on the alps.
No nice hotel there all are old 2-3* hotels, you could rent nice apartments for  $100-$150 a night, that with pom meals is my preference if I return
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on August 19, 2015, 10:36:44 AM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5690/20665908076_80c285cf0a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xubbtW)
Skydiving
Nice TR! Looks like you had a super amazing time!!

The picture above is actually a paraglider

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on August 20, 2015, 06:41:42 AM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/20/97a9597af6325ac44d4929e018998bb0.jpg) Repairing the broken bridge at the Metropol hotel.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on August 27, 2015, 09:46:14 PM
Connecting in ZRH from VCE to NYC, do i need to pass immigration or security?

Title: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on September 01, 2015, 02:19:27 PM
What's the easiest option ( will be with a bunch of luggage ) to get from the airport to the park hyatt ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on September 01, 2015, 02:44:19 PM
What's the easiest option ( will be with a bunch of luggage ) to get from the airport to the park hyatt ?
Taxi
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on September 01, 2015, 02:51:48 PM
Taxi

+1 the streets are cobblestone & I remember shlepping my suitcases my hands were vibrating so much it was hurting!!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on September 01, 2015, 03:26:47 PM
Any hotels closer to the airport ? If ill only have a few hours spare time to go do, or check something out, what should it be ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on September 01, 2015, 03:30:18 PM
Any hotels closer to the airport ? If ill only have a few hours spare time to go do, or check something out, what should it be ?

Radisson blu ZRH.. obvious choice if you have an early am flight & are not spending much time in Zurich
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on September 01, 2015, 04:18:47 PM

Radisson blu ZRH.. obvious choice if you have an early am flight & are not spending much time in Zurich
Rates are quite high, and I don't have any club Carlson points. Any points transferable to them, or can only get from the cc itself ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on September 01, 2015, 04:27:25 PM
Rates are quite high, and I don't have any club Carlson points. Any points transferable to them, or can only get from the cc itself ?
+1 for raddison blu. They have their own shuttle.

Another option for traveling without or with minimum luggage, is the Holiday Inn airport, 15 minute tram away
Title: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on September 01, 2015, 05:00:27 PM
+1 for raddison blu. They have their own shuttle.

Another option for traveling without or with minimum luggage, is the Holiday Inn airport, 15 minute tram away
This is not the best thread to ask, but do you happen to know if I'm flying LX into ZRH, with a layover for about 15 hrs. then UA to NYC, if they can interline the luggage straight onto the 2nd flight - even if I leave the airport overnight ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on September 01, 2015, 05:06:33 PM
This is not the best thread to ask, but do you happen to know if I'm flying LX into ZRH, with a layover for about 15 hrs. then UA to NYC, if they can interline the luggage straight onto the 2nd flight - even if I leave the airport overnight ?
No idea. But i do know that you can rent a (so called) locker for your luggage and they keep your luggage for you in the airport
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 01, 2015, 07:18:10 PM
+1 for raddison blu. They have their own shuttle.

Another option for traveling without or with minimum luggage, is the Holiday Inn airport, 15 minute tram away
Radisson Blu has no shuttle as they are connected to the airport and no shuttle needed.
You are probably referring to park inn by Radisson.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on September 01, 2015, 11:06:52 PM
Radisson Blu has no shuttle as they are connected to the airport and no shuttle needed.
You are probably referring to park inn by Radisson.
Yup
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Cw3323 on September 02, 2015, 12:55:28 AM

Rates are quite high, and I don't have any club Carlson points. Any points transferable to them, or can only get from the cc itself ?
go on Hotwire and select the airport area and it is the 4.5 star  so you will save about half the price
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on September 02, 2015, 11:29:51 AM

go on Hotwire and select the airport area and it is the 4.5 star  so you will save about half the price
Good idea. Thank you.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: flyer1836 on September 02, 2015, 03:56:36 PM
Radisson Blu is physically inside the airport. about a 7-10 minute walk from terminal/gates
Zurich airport is very big, once you depart the plane, walk thru the terminal, there is a 3-4 floor
mall with stores/restaurants/supermarkets/gym, and Radisson Blu
rates are high, I recommend club Carlson visa card, has 85,000 sign up bonus (1 night is 70,000)
if you travel thru Europe a lot , club Carlson has many hotel options. Unfortunately they devalued their points in June 
(Radisson Blu Zurich was 50,000 points before June 2015)
There is also a transit hotel in the airport
http://www.zurich-airport.com/~/media/FlughafenZH/Dokumente/Passagiere_und_Besucher/Airport_Services/Preisliste_Transit_Hotel.pdf

lockers are an option, people posted

The train is right inside the airport and is a 15 minute ride to downtown Zurich. With 1 piece of luggage not too bad, with 2 big luggages, could be a hassle..

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moish on September 02, 2015, 06:20:09 PM
once you depart the plane
for the future, depart the plane = deplane
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 03, 2015, 10:05:24 AM
for the future, depart the plane = deplane

Or simply "get off the plane". :P
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on September 04, 2015, 12:32:36 PM
Is an hour sufficient time to catch a LX, ZRH-TLV flight, when I'm coming from a LX, VCE-ZRH flight ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 04, 2015, 12:47:44 PM
Is an hour sufficient time to catch a LX, ZRH-TLV flight, when I'm coming from a LX, VCE-ZRH flight ?
Yes. Did it last week
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on September 04, 2015, 01:10:54 PM
Any ideas on why a dumb one hour LX flight from VCE-ZRH had no availability ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 05, 2015, 09:14:18 PM
Any ideas on why a dumb one hour LX flight from VCE-ZRH had no availability ?

Monopoly.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on September 05, 2015, 09:16:39 PM

Monopoly.
Are all 3 of their flight really that full , that they are so stingy to release award space ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on September 05, 2015, 09:20:26 PM
Are all 3 of their flight really that full , that they are so stingy to release award space ?
My 30 min flight ZRH-GVA 2 weeks ago was packed, although i had no issues finding availability two weeks before the flight.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 08, 2015, 08:07:35 AM
anything to do in zurich evening time,after 8?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on September 08, 2015, 05:32:59 PM
Are all 3 of their flight really that full , that they are so stingy to release award space ?

you checked on m&m or on ua?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on September 09, 2015, 12:36:30 AM

you checked on m&m or on ua?
UA. I don't have any M&M miles.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on September 09, 2015, 07:02:09 PM
UA. I don't have any M&M miles.

SPG transfers into LH. Check via M&M.. better avail..
Title: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on September 09, 2015, 08:50:06 PM
SPG transfers into LH. Check via M&M.. better avail..
Will check, but I thought they have mad amounts of YQ, so didn't bother. I guess such a short route ain't so bad. Although it does seem the VCE-ZRH flight opens up a week out.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: justaregularguy on September 12, 2015, 11:01:38 PM
looking to travel to Zurich for a friends wedding. anyone familiar with a shul called IRG or IRGE shul or something to that effect?thats where the chupa is supposed to be.. :-\
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on September 12, 2015, 11:30:00 PM
looking to travel to Zurich for a friends wedding. anyone familiar with a shul called IRG or IRGE shul or something to that effect?thats where the chupa is supposed to be.. :-\
Probably this (http://www.irgz.ch/index.html).
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on September 12, 2015, 11:36:01 PM
looking to travel to Zurich for a friends wedding. anyone familiar with a shul called IRG or IRGE shul or something to that effect?thats where the chupa is supposed to be.. :-\

IRG
Freigutstrasse 37
8002 Zürich
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on September 19, 2015, 04:52:57 PM
I have a 5 hour stop in ZRH, I was told I can get to the lake and back, is that realistic and how do I get there?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on September 19, 2015, 04:55:27 PM
Easy. Take train for airport to main train station. It's a 10 min ride. Then stroll down Banhoffstrasse to the lake, which takes around 15 min.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on September 19, 2015, 05:19:57 PM
Easy. Take train for airport to main train station. It's a 10 min ride. Then stroll down Banhoffstrasse to the lake, which takes around 15 min.

Thanks.

Any boat rides recommended and doable?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 19, 2015, 11:22:48 PM
Thanks.

Any boat rides recommended and doable?
I walked down banhofstrasse till the end and then took a boat back to the train station iirc it took around 20 min
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on September 20, 2015, 05:40:42 AM
I walked down banhofstrasse till the end and then took a boat back to the train station iirc it took around 20 min


are the boats privetly operated?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on September 20, 2015, 03:07:19 PM

are the boats privetly operated?
No. Public transportation
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on September 20, 2015, 03:10:27 PM
Can anyone advise for the winter between the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana and Levins hotel in Arosa? (I was only at Levins) It seems that Montana is much nicer and higher in altitude.  But is the hotel nicer and better? TIA
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 20, 2015, 03:41:29 PM
anything to do in zurich evening time,after 8?
anyone?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on October 07, 2015, 06:02:25 AM
Any places to eat after 830pm tomorrow?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on October 12, 2015, 11:21:29 PM
Can anyone advise for the winter between the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana and Levins hotel in Arosa? (I was only at Levins) It seems that Montana is much nicer and higher in altitude.  But is the hotel nicer and better? TIA
Bump. I have to decide already...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on October 14, 2015, 10:39:36 PM
Bump. I have to decide already...

Don't trust me on this but according to A Swissie who I know, Arosa is a lot nicer. But quite possible that she is biased against the French Alps... I'm taking about the area, not the hotels. That I don't know about.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on October 14, 2015, 10:46:12 PM
Don't trust me on this but according to A Swissie who I know, Arosa is a lot nicer. But quite possible that she is biased against the French Alps... I'm taking about the area, not the hotels. That I don't know about.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moen on October 22, 2015, 04:47:02 PM
Is there anywhere to go near ZRH, I have a 4.5 hour stopover.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Mech on October 22, 2015, 05:51:07 PM

Is there anywhere to go near ZRH, I have a 4.5 hour stopover.
Bahnhofstrasse and Lake Zurich
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on October 30, 2015, 11:19:15 AM
Any idea about reliability of hashgachas in Zurich?
Bagels and Co. (Milchig)
Hashgacha Agudas Achim Zurich, Harav Shaul Breish

Restaurant Fein & Schein (Milchig) 
Hashgacha: Agudas Achim Zurich, Harav Shaul Breish

Restaurant Olive Garden (Fleischig)
Hashgacha: Israelitische Cultusgemeinde Zürich, Rabbi Marcel Yair Ebel

I don't want to get into a whole discussion about frumkeit, etc., just a basic comparison to common hashgachas.

Thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 30, 2015, 11:51:17 AM
Swiss are considered very good hashgochas
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on October 30, 2015, 12:27:10 PM
Agudas Achim is definitely the MAIN hashgucha. I am not familiar with the other one, must be a new one.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on October 30, 2015, 01:05:44 PM
Yes, Harav Breish is the regular hashgacha. The other one sounds like from the Bnei Akiva/Mizrachi Ruv.
Title: Zermatt - Shabbat Channukah?
Post by: Gehangin on November 14, 2015, 07:38:04 PM
Anybody planning to be in Zermatt for Shabbat Channukah this year?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on November 14, 2015, 08:15:44 PM
Olive garden has a more modox hashgocho, but raw levy allows to eat there, it's also good according to his standards. So in Zurich you can eat in any place
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: justaregularguy on November 28, 2015, 11:03:04 PM
going to Zurich tomorrow be'ezras Hashem- I plan on taking the train out of the airport(the S-2) does anyone know how much it costs/whats the best type of ticket to buy?(ill be there for a grand total of one day-friends wedding)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 02, 2015, 01:47:11 PM
Which cities in the alps have a kosher hotel/minyan during the winter?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ABC on December 02, 2015, 02:10:25 PM
Which cities in the alps have a kosher hotel/minyan during the winter?

Aroza-Levin
Crans Montana- M Klein (was there last year and enjoyed very much)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: fishcakes on December 10, 2015, 12:08:50 AM
i have a 12 hour stopover in zurich, is it feasible to get to the alps and back on time for my flight, even if it means spending only three hours in the alps?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 10, 2015, 12:17:51 AM
i have a 12 hour stopover in zurich, is it feasible to get to the alps and back on time for my flight, even if it means spending only three hours in the alps?
If your up to it
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on December 21, 2015, 06:31:11 PM
any hotels in zurich have good views? which hotel is the best spg in zurich and is it worth getting hyatt cc for 2 nights there?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on December 22, 2015, 07:53:29 AM
any hotels in zurich with mountain views?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on December 22, 2015, 11:45:19 AM
is it worth getting a hyatt cc for park hyatt zrh or stick with spg and what are the pros and cons of each of the 3 spg in zrh?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on December 22, 2015, 09:26:55 PM
i have a 12 hour stopover in zurich, is it feasible to get to the alps and back on time for my flight, even if it means spending only three hours in the alps?
pretty tight but doable
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on December 22, 2015, 09:30:43 PM
any hotels in zurich have good views? which hotel is the best spg in zurich and is it worth getting hyatt cc for 2 nights there?
Good views> not from the alps. I wouldn't open a CC just for this hotel while having enough SPG points
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on December 23, 2015, 03:04:02 PM
whats the spg hotels proximity to the shuls? other than four points? how is the four points?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on December 23, 2015, 04:25:38 PM
which shul to daven in zurich
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on December 23, 2015, 04:40:30 PM
which shul to daven in zurich
Ohel Moshe
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on December 23, 2015, 04:46:25 PM
Ohel Moshe
do you have an address for ohel moshe which spg is near there?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on December 23, 2015, 04:49:36 PM
do you have an address for ohel moshe which spg is near there?
Check on godaven.com or their app called find a Minyan.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on December 23, 2015, 05:08:06 PM
Check on godaven.com or their app called find a Minyan.
dont see any ohel moshe
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on December 23, 2015, 05:09:54 PM
dont see any ohel moshe
Sorry, Agudas Achim. (The previous one is in Vienna)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on December 26, 2015, 06:23:38 PM
anyone have info on sheraton zurich neues schloss hotel is it near shuls and resturants and whats the hotel like?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on December 26, 2015, 07:54:34 PM
There's not really that many restaurants in Zurich. Only one milchig one around for years. And recently another meat place. Was posted a few pages back. Also was posted regarding the hechsher. There's basically two shuls. One Bnei Akiba/mizrachi (correct me if I'm wrong). And one Shul where  Rav Breish is the Ruv. That's located on the corner of Erikastrasse and Weststrasse, I believe. Please double check.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on December 30, 2015, 12:07:35 PM
where is it better to stay zurich or lucerne? where is a must on a 1 day visit?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 30, 2015, 12:30:10 PM
where is it better to stay zurich or lucerne? where is a must on a 1 day visit?
Define better
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on December 30, 2015, 01:19:01 PM
being precise im in switzerland for a day and half where do ppl advise to go and stay?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: an613 on December 31, 2015, 02:52:39 PM
I just speed read most of this thread and hoping the experts can answer a few questions.

Going to be stopping in Zurich in a few weeks from Wednesday at 11AM through sunday at 4PM. Rough plan is to go skiing on Thursday/Friday and stay shabbas somewhere in the alps (probably St Moritz). Not sure though what to do on Wed afternoon and Sunday.

1) Is Lucerne still worth it if the cogwheel is closed until march and I'll be in the alps so presumably will have really nice views there too?
2) If it is still worth it,  is wed afternoon enough time to do Lucerne? 
3) No matter what we do on wed/sun, we'll have our luggage with us which will be pretty annoying. Would it make more sense to rent a car so that we can keep our luggage in the car? How hard is it for a non swiss speaking person to drive in switzerland?

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on January 03, 2016, 07:59:48 AM
What are the best things to do for a day and a half in switzerland?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 03, 2016, 08:53:00 AM
What are the best things to do for a day and a half in switzerland?
From Zurich?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on January 03, 2016, 10:23:43 AM
You cab get your luggage shipped straight from the train station to your final destination. It's about 40 franc a suitcase iirc
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on January 03, 2016, 04:52:07 PM
From Zurich?
yes from zurich
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: macbook on January 03, 2016, 04:55:31 PM
You cab get your luggage shipped straight from the train station to your final destination. It's about 40 franc a suitcase iirc
its a lot less around $15 and you can do it from the airport
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on January 03, 2016, 05:01:01 PM
any ideas on what to do from zurich? does it pay to go out to the alps?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on January 03, 2016, 05:41:01 PM
its a lot less around $15 and you can do it from the airport
Thanks. I didn't remember the price exactly. But you do it from the train station in the airport, correct?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: macbook on January 03, 2016, 05:57:16 PM
Thanks. I didn't remember the price exactly. But you do it from the train station in the airport, correct?
no you can do it from the airport that your leaving from,if your flying swiss air i think it works from anywhere,
if your not flying swiss u can check their website which airlines they work with
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chaim#1 on January 03, 2016, 10:17:11 PM
I am going to Switzerland for two days I want to know.....
1. is there any way of getting cheap train tickets?
2. Whats included in the hotel prices?
3. is there anything to do at night
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chaim#1 on January 04, 2016, 12:18:54 PM
are there any other kosher hotels except Levin?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: em0616 on January 04, 2016, 01:53:06 PM
1&2. Yes, it is still worth it for a visit to Lucerne, even if it's just for an afternoon visit.

3. Driving in Switzerland is easy, and their are signs everywhere. However, if
you are from outside Europe, do learn the driving regulations of Switzerland.
The fines for speeding, parking, disobeying traffic laws can cost you a small fortune.

Most of the available parking in the cities are Blue Zones as well as White Zones:
    Blue Zones: Parking from Monday till Saturday from 8 am until 6 pm is free of charge for an hour with the blue parking disc (including EU parking disc). Whereby the arrival time is to be inserted to the next half hour. Also parking between 12pm and 1:30pm is free in blue zone.
    White zones: These are chargeable, numbered, and located near a parking meter.

-- RIGHT OF WAY - Trams always have priority. Buses have priority when leaving a bus stop.

-- If you cross the solid white line, (e.g. making a u-turn) the fine would be over 500 CHF.


I just speed read most of this thread and hoping the experts can answer a few questions.

Going to be stopping in Zurich in a few weeks from Wednesday at 11AM through sunday at 4PM. Rough plan is to go skiing on Thursday/Friday and stay shabbas somewhere in the alps (probably St Moritz). Not sure though what to do on Wed afternoon and Sunday.

1) Is Lucerne still worth it if the cogwheel is closed until march and I'll be in the alps so presumably will have really nice views there too?
2) If it is still worth it,  is wed afternoon enough time to do Lucerne? 
3) No matter what we do on wed/sun, we'll have our luggage with us which will be pretty annoying. Would it make more sense to rent a car so that we can keep our luggage in the car? How hard is it for a non swiss speaking person to drive in switzerland?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: em0616 on January 04, 2016, 02:05:38 PM
1. Train tickets are expensive, but frequent visitors and residents have half card, that gives 50% of all
rail travel for a year (costs about 175 CHF/year) or GA card (3655 CHF) that gives unlimited travel.

2. Hotels in Switzerland are expensive. Price of labor in Switzerland is extremely expensive. If you
want to save, book a self-catering chalet or flat.

3. The Swiss cities are usually dead at nights. Shops close early, and "noise" between 12:30 and 2 pm
and between 10 pm and 6 am is strictly prohibited. People that live in older apartments, (bad sound
insulation) usually do not take showers or flush the toilet after 10pm

I am going to Switzerland for two days I want to know.....
1. is there any way of getting cheap train tickets?
2. Whats included in the hotel prices?
3. is there anything to do at night
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MC on January 04, 2016, 02:08:01 PM
3. The Swiss cities are usually dead at nights. Shops close early, and "noise" between 12:30 and 2 pm
and between 10 pm and 6 am is strictly prohibited. People that live in older apartments, (bad sound
insulation) usually do not take showers or flush the toilet after 10pm
I remember having to remove my shoes after 9pm in my grandparents' old apartment in Basel so as not to disturb the downstairs neighbors...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: em0616 on January 04, 2016, 02:11:44 PM
Hotel Mirabeau in Crans is kosher in the Winter till about mid April.

are there any other kosher hotels except Levin?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: em0616 on January 04, 2016, 02:57:02 PM
Definitely Lucerne.

Luzern has much more interesting landscapes and things to do.

From Luzern, you can ascend the nearby peaks (Rigi, Pilatus, Titlis), visit lakeside villages (Weggis, Vitznau), and cruise along on the lake system. You can also visit Engelberg.

Here are some sites to explore:

www.luzern.org

www.lakelucerne.ch

www.rigi.ch

www.pilatus.ch

www.titlis.ch

www.engelberg.ch

where is it better to stay zurich or lucerne? where is a must on a 1 day visit?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: em0616 on January 04, 2016, 03:18:43 PM
UTO KULM Hotel  - http://www.utokulm.ch/en/  -

You would need good visibility and take a look on google maps, search for Uetliberg, and click on Photos,
for a sample of your view.

any hotels in zurich with mountain views?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on January 04, 2016, 04:13:57 PM
Definitely Lucerne.

Luzern has much more interesting landscapes and things to do.

From Luzern, you can ascend the nearby peaks (Rigi, Pilatus, Titlis), visit lakeside villages (Weggis, Vitznau), and cruise along on the lake system. You can also visit Engelberg.

Here are some sites to explore:

www.luzern.org

www.lakelucerne.ch

www.rigi.ch

www.pilatus.ch

www.titlis.ch

www.engelberg.ch

thanx whats with the food situation in lucerne?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on January 04, 2016, 04:31:56 PM
The Swiss cities are usually dead at nights. Shops close early, and "noise" between 12:30 and 2 pm
and between 10 pm and 6 am is strictly prohibited. People that live in older apartments, (bad sound
insulation) usually do not take showers or flush the toilet after 10pm
Anywhere nice in Zurich I guess just walk around at night?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on January 04, 2016, 04:34:51 PM
Anywhere nice in Zurich I guess just walk around at night?

Bahnoffstrasse for stores.. Or maybe walk by Zurich Lake..
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on January 04, 2016, 04:39:58 PM
Bahnoffstrasse for stores.. Or maybe walk by Zurich Lake..
How far is it from The Park Hyatt?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on January 04, 2016, 05:24:03 PM
How far is it from The Park Hyatt?

Both are not far, trams go everywhere anyways
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on January 04, 2016, 05:53:11 PM
Both are not far, trams go everywhere anyways
And also close to the kosher restaurant?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on January 04, 2016, 06:11:11 PM
And also close to the kosher restaurant?

no
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on January 04, 2016, 06:24:18 PM
no
And from ZRH? I'm landing from TLV @ 7:15 pm till what time are these restaurants open?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chaim#1 on January 04, 2016, 11:47:47 PM
Hotel Mirabeau in Crans is kosher in the Winter till about mid April.

is this in the Alps?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on January 04, 2016, 11:49:35 PM
is this in the Alps?
Yes it is. Do you have Google?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chaim#1 on January 04, 2016, 11:51:58 PM
Yes it is. Do you have Google?

sure how far is it from Zurich airport and how close to the Ski resorts and how is the food there?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on January 04, 2016, 11:58:33 PM
sure
Then please google all of this stuff first yourself before asking here. Besides for basically being a forum rule, it's derech eretz and common sense. It took me 5 seconds to find out that Crans was in the alps with Google.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chaim#1 on January 05, 2016, 02:26:06 AM
Then please google all of this stuff first yourself before asking here. Besides for basically being a forum rule, it's derech eretz and common sense. It took me 5 seconds to find out that Crans was in the alps with Google.

any1 that can help please do thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: em0616 on January 05, 2016, 03:07:13 AM
E.g. Olive Garden, according to the their website http://www.olivegarden.ch/en/öffnungszeiten.htm

Monday - Thursday:           11.30am to 2pm / 6pm to 10pm
Sunday                    :           5pm to 9.30pm

Please note, that the last order has to be made 30 minutes before closing.

Note: Look at the prices: http://www.olivegarden.ch/PDF/Speisekarte%20Englisch.pdf

And from ZRH? I'm landing from TLV @ 7:15 pm till what time are these restaurants open?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: em0616 on January 05, 2016, 03:14:51 AM
For those visiting, In Your Pocket Guides might be useful:

see: http://www.inyourpocket.com/data/download/Zurich.pdf
http://www.inyourpocket.com/data/download/Lucerne.pdf

Also wikitravel:

http://wikitravel.org/en/Switzerland
http://wikitravel.org/en/Zurich
http://wikitravel.org/en/Lucerne
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: em0616 on January 05, 2016, 03:35:22 AM
As far as food, you can go to the various supermarkets, like Migros, Coop, Denner, etc
and buy whatever that's on the Kosher List.

The Mehadrin kosher list: http://www.wwwdesigner.ch/downloads/koscherliste_aktuell.pdf

There is another kosher list, that has cholov stam products: (this one originates from the Basel community):
http://www.igb.ch/index.php?id=9#c36
(the latest at time of posting is the Koscherliste Dezember 2015.pdf link )

Here is another one from ICZ community, also contains cholov stam:
http://www.icz.org/wcms/ftp//i/icz.org/uploads/koscherb-chlein-2014_online.pdf

In the Coop Supermarket chain, the following breads are kosher and pas yisroel in Luzern:
(only in the original Coop packaging - but not allowed with if it has a title
 "hier ausgebacken" (meaning that it was baked here on premises))

    Bio Knusperli  270 g
    Fyrabigbrot  380 g
    Halbweissbrot  1 kg
    Halbweissbrot  500 g
    Hirtenbrot  500 g
    Knusper Laib  “Pain Artisanal”   450 g
    Pagnol rustique  “Pain Artisanal”   450 g
    Roggenbrot   500 g
    Ruchbrot   1 kg
    Ruchbrot  500 g
    Rusticobrot  “Pain Artisanal”   550 g
    St. Galler Ruchbrot  500 g
    St. Gallerbrot, halbweiss  500 g

Use http://translate.google.com and http://dict.leo.org  if you need to translate from e.g. German into English.

thanx whats with the food situation in lucerne?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on January 05, 2016, 01:43:32 PM
anyone stay at the renaisance zurich? whats it like? hows the location?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: em0616 on January 05, 2016, 04:57:18 PM
The hotel is very nice, but it would be about a 30 minute walk to the closest shul.
It's more in an industrial area right next to Hardbrücke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardbrücke
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on January 05, 2016, 05:20:40 PM
The hotel is very nice, but it would be about a 30 minute walk to the closest shul.
It's more in an industrial area right next to Hardbrücke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardbrücke
how abt tram? is google maps accurate?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on January 05, 2016, 07:11:22 PM
As far as food, you can go to the various supermarkets, like Migros, Coop, Denner, etc
and buy whatever that's on the Kosher List.

The Mehadrin kosher list: http://www.wwwdesigner.ch/downloads/koscherliste_aktuell.pdf

There is another kosher list, that has cholov stam products: (this one originates from the Basel community):
http://www.igb.ch/index.php?id=9#c36
(the latest at time of posting is the Koscherliste Dezember 2015.pdf link )

Here is another one from ICZ community, also contains cholov stam:
http://www.icz.org/wcms/ftp//i/icz.org/uploads/koscherb-chlein-2014_online.pdf

In the Coop Supermarket chain, the following breads are kosher and pas yisroel in Luzern:
(only in the original Coop packaging - but not allowed with if it has a title
 "hier ausgebacken" (meaning that it was baked here on premises))

    Bio Knusperli  270 g
    Fyrabigbrot  380 g
    Halbweissbrot  1 kg
    Halbweissbrot  500 g
    Hirtenbrot  500 g
    Knusper Laib  “Pain Artisanal”   450 g
    Pagnol rustique  “Pain Artisanal”   450 g
    Roggenbrot   500 g
    Ruchbrot   1 kg
    Ruchbrot  500 g
    Rusticobrot  “Pain Artisanal”   550 g
    St. Galler Ruchbrot  500 g
    St. Gallerbrot, halbweiss  500 g

Use http://translate.google.com and http://dict.leo.org  if you need to translate from e.g. German into English.

Here's the Mehadrin Kosher list with latest updates, straight from the source. http://www.irgz.ch/koscherliste/index.html
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on January 05, 2016, 07:12:04 PM
There's not really that many restaurants in Zurich. Only one milchig one around for years. And recently another meat place. Was posted a few pages back. Also was posted regarding the hechsher. There's basically two shuls. One Bnei Akiba/mizrachi (correct me if I'm wrong). And one Shul where  Rav Breish is the Ruv. That's located on the corner of Erikastrasse and Weststrasse, I believe. Please double check.

I left out at least two Shtieblach. One Belz and one Gur. And the Yekishe Shul.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: em0616 on January 05, 2016, 08:50:00 PM
Yes, your link points to the same source as what I posted: http://www.wwwdesigner.ch/downloads/koscherliste_aktuell.pdf

Here's the Mehadrin Kosher list with latest updates, straight from the source. http://www.irgz.ch/koscherliste/index.html
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: em0616 on January 05, 2016, 08:51:44 PM
Yes it's accurate. The source is http://online.fahrplan.zvv.ch/bin/query.exe/en & http://www.sbb.ch/en/home.html

how abt tram? is google maps accurate?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 06, 2016, 09:08:53 AM
I just speed read most of this thread and hoping the experts can answer a few questions.

Going to be stopping in Zurich in a few weeks from Wednesday at 11AM through sunday at 4PM. Rough plan is to go skiing on Thursday/Friday and stay shabbas somewhere in the alps (probably St Moritz). Not sure though what to do on Wed afternoon and Sunday.

1) Is Lucerne still worth it if the cogwheel is closed until march and I'll be in the alps so presumably will have really nice views there too?
2) If it is still worth it,  is wed afternoon enough time to do Lucerne? 
3) No matter what we do on wed/sun, we'll have our luggage with us which will be pretty annoying. Would it make more sense to rent a car so that we can keep our luggage in the car? How hard is it for a non swiss speaking person to drive in switzerland?
Depends what your final plan is. If you are going to St Morits enjoy the alps in that area. Go to Mount Corvatsch or Muottas Muragl. I don't see any reason in going to Pilatus (unless the weather is better in Lucern than in St Morits)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 06, 2016, 09:10:02 AM
any ideas on what to do from zurich? does it pay to go out to the alps?
Once and for all: Pilatus in Lucern or Titlis in Engelberg.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 06, 2016, 09:11:19 AM
are there any other kosher hotels except Levin?
Crans Montana see in the WIKI
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 06, 2016, 09:12:24 AM

3. Driving in Switzerland is easy

Not in the winter
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 06, 2016, 09:14:06 AM
I remember having to remove my shoes after 9pm in my grandparents' old apartment in Basel so as not to disturb the downstairs neighbors...
ALOL. Well described...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 06, 2016, 09:15:40 AM
Yes it is. Do you have Google?
Not in the REAL alps
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 06, 2016, 09:21:56 AM
Yes, your link points to the same source as what I posted: http://www.wwwdesigner.ch/downloads/koscherliste_aktuell.pdf

Here's the Mehadrin Kosher list with latest updates, straight from the source. http://www.irgz.ch/koscherliste/index.html

Did you ever read the WIKI?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on January 06, 2016, 08:19:17 PM
Did you ever read the WIKI?

True, but link is broken. Fixing it to main page, so won't break with every update to the list and the person clicking the link won't get an outdated list. Don't want someone to eat treif, even though it's mostly the same.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ABC on January 07, 2016, 05:40:06 AM
sure how far is it from Zurich airport and how close to the Ski resorts and how is the food there?

I was there last year for a week and I sent 2 couples there this week and everyone enjoyed.

3 hour train ride, very relaxing smooth ride you don't feel that the train is moving.
3 minutes by foot to the ski resorts.
Food is EXCELLENT there.

Feel free to pm me for any could email hotelmk@gmail.com for reservations.
They are much cheaper then levin 270 CHF instead of 400 CHF
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chaim#1 on January 07, 2016, 11:59:43 AM
So Coming To zurich for two days better to go to Levin Or the other where is the skiing nicer?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 07, 2016, 01:43:37 PM
So Coming To zurich for two days better to go to Levin Or the other where is the skiing nicer?
If you want a Kosher hotel etc. Than Crans Montana is nicer and much higher than Arosa
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ar on January 07, 2016, 04:32:44 PM
What's the difference between Crans Montana and Arosa?

I heard that Arosa is nicer but wanna confirm with you guys...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 07, 2016, 05:04:42 PM
What's the difference between Crans Montana and Arosa?

I heard that Arosa is nicer but wanna confirm with you guys...
Arosa is closer to ZRH. But IMO Crans Montana (and the surrounding area) is much nicer.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on January 07, 2016, 05:05:56 PM
Arosa is closer to ZRH. But IMO Crans Montana (and the surrounding area) is much nicer.

but then he wont experience Levin  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ABC on January 07, 2016, 05:49:38 PM
What's the difference between Crans Montana and Arosa?

I heard that Arosa is nicer but wanna confirm with you guys...

I heard from someone that was by both, he says crans the hotel is nicer,better service and cheaper.
Not that it's a 5 star hotel but by comparing those 2.

The views I am not sure about, crans is beautiful but I didn't try out Arosa.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chaim#1 on January 07, 2016, 11:56:43 PM
is crans hashgach good? and how is the skiing there compared to arosa?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ABC on January 08, 2016, 04:10:23 AM
is crans hashgach good? and how is the skiing there compared to arosa?


The hashgacha couldn't be better, he has the belzer rav from Antwerp.
You won't be disappointed there from the ski.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: an613 on January 09, 2016, 06:53:57 PM
1&2. Yes, it is still worth it for a visit to Lucerne, even if it's just for an afternoon visit.

3. Driving in Switzerland is easy, and their are signs everywhere. However, if
you are from outside Europe, do learn the driving regulations of Switzerland.
The fines for speeding, parking, disobeying traffic laws can cost you a small fortune.

Most of the available parking in the cities are Blue Zones as well as White Zones:
    Blue Zones: Parking from Monday till Saturday from 8 am until 6 pm is free of charge for an hour with the blue parking disc (including EU parking disc). Whereby the arrival time is to be inserted to the next half hour. Also parking between 12pm and 1:30pm is free in blue zone.
    White zones: These are chargeable, numbered, and located near a parking meter.

-- RIGHT OF WAY - Trams always have priority. Buses have priority when leaving a bus stop.

-- If you cross the solid white line, (e.g. making a u-turn) the fine would be over 500 CHF.



Thanks for the detailed info. It sounds like driving may be more of a hassle than its worth so thinking about taking the train, especially if I'm able to use the Fast Baggage thing. From what I'm reading online though, it sounds like you need to have your luggage checked in before 9AM and we don't land in ZRH until 11AM. Is this (https://www2.raileurope.com/activities/fast-baggage/index.html) the right thing or is that something else? (Its a swiss-air flight operated by ElAl)

Depends what your final plan is. If you are going to St Morits enjoy the alps in that area. Go to Mount Corvatsch or Muottas Muragl. I don't see any reason in going to Pilatus (unless the weather is better in Lucern than in St Morits)

Wed - Land at 11AM in ZRH. Train to Lucerne for the afternoon. Train to St Moritz in late afternoon/early evening
Thurs/Fri - Skiing in St Moritz
Shabbas - St Moritz
Sat Night - return to Zurich
Sun morning - tour around zurich (Bahnoffstrasse, restaraunts)

Does this itin sound good? any recommendation for hotel in St Moritz?

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chaim#1 on January 10, 2016, 10:30:55 AM
Not in the REAL alps

why is crans not considered the real alps?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 10, 2016, 11:42:57 AM
why is crans not considered the real alps?
My bad I quoted the wrote post
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 10, 2016, 11:50:09 AM
Thanks for the detailed info. It sounds like driving may be more of a hassle than its worth so thinking about taking the train, especially if I'm able to use the Fast Baggage thing. From what I'm reading online though, it sounds like you need to have your luggage checked in before 9AM and we don't land in ZRH until 11AM. Is this (https://www2.raileurope.com/activities/fast-baggage/index.html) the right thing or is that something else? (Its a swiss-air flight operated by ElAl)

Wed - Land at 11AM in ZRH. Train to Lucerne for the afternoon. Train to St Moritz in late afternoon/early evening
Thurs/Fri - Skiing in St Moritz
Shabbas - St Moritz
Sat Night - return to Zurich
Sun morning - tour around zurich (Bahnoffstrasse, restaraunts)

Does this itin sound good? any recommendation for hotel in St Moritz?
Which train pass would you use? If you are ready to travel a lot for a nice place than why not visit Jungfrau? You are traveling through half of Switzerland and going to a simple mountain that people do whem having a stopover in ZRH. You can choose a much nicer mountain than Pilatus. If Jungfrau (Wengen) is out of your way (check on SBB.ch/en for train routing) you can either sleep over in Wengen and travel the next day to St Moritz (I would likely do that) or choose a different way point like Zermatt etc
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: an613 on January 10, 2016, 12:17:35 PM
Which train pass would you use? If you are ready to travel a lot for a nice place than why not visit Jungfrau? You are traveling through half of Switzerland and going to a simple mountain that people do whem having a stopover in ZRH. You can choose a much nicer mountain than Pilatus. If Jungfrau (Wengen) is out of your way (check on SBB.ch/en for train routing) you can either sleep over in Wengen and travel the next day to St Moritz (I would likely do that) or choose a different way point like Zermatt etc

Not sure which pass yet, but I think we're only going to have 2 days of travelling on train so from the wiki it seems like the third option makes the most sense.

It looks like both Zermatt and Wengen are in a different direction and theres no direct trains to St Moritz. Don't mind traveling if its worth it but since I only have 4.5 days and  I would like to ski for 2 of them, might be a stretch to get in both... Is there good skiing/views in the zermatt area? Is that worth it over St Moritz?

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chaim#1 on January 10, 2016, 12:24:29 PM
My bad I quoted the wrote post

so you would go to crans over arosa?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 10, 2016, 12:45:50 PM
Not sure which pass yet, but I think we're only going to have 2 days of travelling on train so from the wiki it seems like the third option makes the most sense.

It looks like both Zermatt and Wengen are in a different direction and theres no direct trains to St Moritz. Don't mind traveling if its worth it but since I only have 4.5 days and  I would like to ski for 2 of them, might be a stretch to get in both... Is there good skiing/views in the zermatt area? Is that worth it over St Moritz?
Do you need a Kosher hotel? If not than Saas Fee and Montana (there is a Kosher hotel in Crans) have the best views (and highest altitudes) when skiing
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 10, 2016, 12:46:23 PM
so you would go to crans over arosa?
Yes.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chaim#1 on January 11, 2016, 03:03:53 PM
is there a lot more to do at night in Arosa over crans ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 11, 2016, 03:24:26 PM
is there a lot more to do at night in Arosa over crans ?
Negative
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: an613 on January 11, 2016, 09:17:38 PM
Do you need a Kosher hotel? If not than Saas Fee and Montana (there is a Kosher hotel in Crans) have the best views (and highest altitudes) when skiing

nope, don't need kosher hotel. I guess it would be convenient to get some food from there for shabbas but we're coming from TLV so we can always bring with us if we really want.

Any recommendations for places to stay in Saas Fee or Montana? Also, if we're doing that, would you say we could skip Lucerne on wednesday? Any other place (preferably along the train route from Zurich) to stop that would be worthwhile?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: karen on January 13, 2016, 03:20:23 PM
My family plan to visit Switzerland for 3 days, we like see-sighting,  which cities/places do you suggest me to visit? And which city should I stay? I have searched for a while and got lost  :( Thanks!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on January 13, 2016, 03:36:40 PM
My family plan to visit Switzerland for 3 days, we like see-sighting,  which cities/places do you suggest me to visit? And which city should I stay? I have searched for a while and got lost  :( Thanks!

Safe to assume you're flying in Zurich?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: karen on January 13, 2016, 04:24:10 PM
Safe to assume you're flying in Zurich?
Yes. I will fly in Zurich on June 7, then leave for Greece on June 10, I will fly back from Germany.  I have 11 days to plan, no sure whether it is long enough. I have searched the whole afternoon, for Switzerland, I plan to do a day trip to Lucern, and spend some time to visit Zurich lake and old down. I am thinking  another day trip, maybe.  :)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on January 13, 2016, 04:45:58 PM
My family plan to visit Switzerland for 3 days, we like see-sighting,  which cities/places do you suggest me to visit? And which city should I stay? I have searched for a while and got lost  :( Thanks!

Zurich or Geneva for that matter there isnt much "to see".
To see is in the alps.. Its not Paris, Rome, London or anything even close to that.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: karen on January 13, 2016, 04:54:27 PM
Zurich or Geneva for that matter there isnt much "to see".
To see is in the alps.. Its not Paris, Rome, London or anything even close to that.

Jungfraujoch - Top of Europe (from Zurich)
Rhine Falls

Which one is better? Is it a doable day trip from Zurich? Thanks!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on January 13, 2016, 05:06:55 PM
Jungfraujoch - Top of Europe (from Zurich)
Rhine Falls

Which one is better? Is it a doable day trip from Zurich? Thanks!

I go to Switzerland yearly but I try not to hang around in the city too much.. Honestly I dont know.. Wouldnt you rather take in the beauty of the alps?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on January 14, 2016, 04:38:36 AM
Hi, I'm planning a stopover in Switzerland on my way to US from Israel, read through most of the posts here!

1. Does it make sense to do Lucerne (Pilatus) and Engelberg (Titlis)?

2. Can they both be done on the same day? Thinking of an 18 hr stopover...

3. How can I get the Youth Pass, and what does it include? Will I need an additional pass for Pilatus?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 14, 2016, 12:40:00 PM
Jungfraujoch - Top of Europe (from Zurich)
This
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 14, 2016, 12:44:40 PM
Hi, I'm planning a stopover in Switzerland on my way to US from Israel, read through most of the posts here!

1. Does it make sense to do Lucerne (Pilatus) and Engelberg (Titlis)?

2. Can they both be done on the same day? Thinking of an 18 hr stopover...

3. How can I get the Youth Pass, and what does it include? Will I need an additional pass for Pilatus?
1)Of course it makes sense.
2)In the same day? Doable but not enjoyable... Especially in the winter where the day is pretty short.
3)http://www.swiss-pass.ch/swiss-flexi-pass/
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 14, 2016, 12:47:10 PM
I go to Switzerland yearly Wouldnt you rather take in the beauty of the alps?
Honestly, I don't  think that by traveling to Arosa you know what the alps are all about :P
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on January 16, 2016, 11:48:14 AM
1)Of course it makes sense.
2)In the same day? Doable but not enjoyable... Especially in the winter where the day is pretty short.
3)http://www.swiss-pass.ch/swiss-flexi-pass/

Yes in the same day, will be summertime then- is it very tight to do both?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 16, 2016, 06:12:07 PM
Yes in the same day, will be summertime then- is it very tight to do both?
As i said you could "do" both but not "enjoy" both. You could easily do Titlis and another smaller mountain in one day for example Titlis and Brunni.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on January 17, 2016, 04:38:16 AM
Ok so here's the tentative schedule:

Sunday- arrive early morning, take train to Lucerne, go up Pilatus and boat ride on the lake
Monday- train to Engelberg, do Brunni and Titlis
Tues- train to Wengen, stop in Interlaken along the way, then in Wengen go up Mannlichen and hike down
Weds- Trummelbach Falls, Schilthorn, then back to Hotel to pack and go by Golden Express to airport

Does this make sense? Too much/ too little? we are 4 or 6 adults

When would we have to leave Wengen on weds to get to the airport in time for a 10:30 PM flight?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 17, 2016, 07:30:42 AM
Ok so here's the tentative schedule:

Sunday- arrive early morning, take train to Lucerne, go up Pilatus and boat ride on the lake
Monday- train to Engelberg, do Brunni and Titlis
Tues- train to Wengen, stop in Interlaken along the way, then in Wengen go up Mannlichen and hike down
Weds- Trummelbach Falls, Schilthorn, then back to Hotel to pack and go by Golden Express to airport

Does this make sense? Too much/ too little? we are 4 or 6 adults

When would we have to leave Wengen on weds to get to the airport in time for a 10:30 PM flight?
Sounds good - for someone who is in for fun and a lot of traveling. You can concider Sunday night travel to Engelberg. Monday morning Titlis [skip Brunni] and in afternoon head out to Jungfrau. (Jungfrau region is worth spending more time) Wednesday you would leave about 4:pm see what I copied from sbb.ch/en

From: Wengen
To: Kloten, ZRH (Flughafen)
Date: Th, 07.07.16 13:17 (Dep.)
Time   Platf./ Edge   Stop
dep 16:03      
Wengen
R   
arr 16:21      
Lauterbrunnen
dep 16:33      
Lauterbrunnen
R   
arr 16:54   Pl. 2A   
Interlaken Ost
dep 17:00   Pl. 5   
Interlaken Ost
IC   
arr 17:52   Pl. 6   
Bern
dep 18:02   Pl. 2   
Bern
IC   
arr 19:16   Pl. 2   
Zürich Flughafen
walk   9 min
arr      
Kloten, ZRH (Flughafen)
Dur. 3:22.

Note the the weather does not always match your plan and can cause you to reroute. Hopefully you'll have fantastic weathers every day.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on January 17, 2016, 08:26:47 AM
Sounds good - for someone who is in for fun and a lot of traveling. You can concider Sunday night travel to Engelberg. Monday morning Titlis [skip Brunni] and in afternoon head out to Jungfrau. (Jungfrau region is worth spending more time) Wednesday you would leave about 4:pm see what I copied from sbb.ch/en

From: Wengen
To: Kloten, ZRH (Flughafen)
Date: Th, 07.07.16 13:17 (Dep.)
Time   Platf./ Edge   Stop
dep 16:03      
Wengen
R   
arr 16:21      
Lauterbrunnen
dep 16:33      
Lauterbrunnen
R   
arr 16:54   Pl. 2A   
Interlaken Ost
dep 17:00   Pl. 5   
Interlaken Ost
IC   
arr 17:52   Pl. 6   
Bern
dep 18:02   Pl. 2   
Bern
IC   
arr 19:16   Pl. 2   
Zürich Flughafen
walk   9 min
arr      
Kloten, ZRH (Flughafen)
Dur. 3:22.

Note the the weather does not always match your plan and can cause you to reroute. Hopefully you'll have fantastic weathers every day.

What is the weather usually like there in the summer?

What is the shul/kosher food/ruchniyus situation in the summer in Lucerne, Engelberg, Wengen?

As for transportation, what is the best travel pass to get?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 17, 2016, 10:41:37 AM
What is the weather usually like there in the summer?

What is the shul/kosher food/ruchniyus situation in the summer in Lucerne, Engelberg, Wengen?

As for transportation, what is the best travel pass to get?
The temperature is usually the same, hot/warm in the city's and cool/cold on the alps. The issue is the rain and clouds which can be often. If it is cloudy there is no reason to go up a mountain if the weather doesn't clear out

Kosher food is too of a general question everone abviously has different opinions and levels. In Engelberg they had the last few years a kosher mini market of basic food like chicken and meat. Drinks and fruits you can buy everywhere and in the summer you can also buy bread that is kosher in COOP and Migros (Ruchbrod) and plenty of other items. In Wengen there is a Kosher hotel (rented by TourPlus) which is pricy. Minyan in Engelberg is next to train station.  You can PM me closer to the summer and I'll give you the exact address a d contact info. Ruchnius is perfectly fine. No issues at all.

For a travel pass it would undoubtedly be best to get the 3 day unlimited travel which is also a 7 day Halbtax
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on January 17, 2016, 01:47:49 PM

For a travel pass it would undoubtedly be best to get the 3 day unlimited travel which is also a 7 day Halbtax

I checked the site but I can't find that option, also halbtax means half-price admission to attractions, ie. Pilatus, Titlus...?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 17, 2016, 01:53:26 PM
I checked the site but I can't find that option, also halbtax means half-price admission to attractions, ie. Pilatus, Titlus...?
you can buy the pass in the airport. Yes 50% off
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on January 17, 2016, 03:13:38 PM
The issue is the rain and clouds which can be often.
+1
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on January 17, 2016, 08:06:39 PM
Saw this article on Yeshiva World (http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/376666/rabbis-to-rally-at-swiss-mission-to-un-in-ny-against-destruction-of-medieval-jewish-cemetery-in-zurich.html) about an old jewish cemetary in Zurich.

Anyone been there? Which, if any, gedoilim are buried there? Where is it?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on January 17, 2016, 08:28:57 PM
Where is it?
It should be near the  Kunsthaus Museum  (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kunsthaus/@47.3701788,8.5484197,18z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xd9cdb23ca2e00ba3)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on January 17, 2016, 11:26:58 PM
Honestly, I don't  think that by traveling to Arosa you know what the alps are all about :P

boo
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on January 17, 2016, 11:42:23 PM
Jungfraujoch - Top of Europe (from Zurich)
Rhine Falls

Which one is better? Is it a doable day trip from Zurich? Thanks!
Rheinfall is something you do on a few hour stopover.  It's nice, but shouldn't be at the top of your list.
Jungfrau will take up most of a day, very accessible with Switzerland's amazing public transport, but the train up there is one of the most expensive rides you can take.
If you can, you should definitely stay in Lucerne - not Zurich, as it is much more central and it's quite a charming city.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on January 19, 2016, 04:49:18 AM
Not sure where to ask this...can I book a Swissair flight with avios? If not what would I need to convert the avios to?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on January 19, 2016, 05:14:13 AM
Not sure where to ask this...can I book a Swissair flight with avios? If not what would I need to convert the avios to?
Swiss is a star alliance member while Avios are for booking Oneworld, cannot redeem one for the other. Avios cannot be converted to anything useful for you in this case, you would need one of the transferable parent currencies ( Chase UR,Amex MR, SPG, Thank You Points)

You may want to Start Here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?board=22.0)   :)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: karen on January 19, 2016, 11:14:31 AM
Rheinfall is something you do on a few hour stopover.  It's nice, but shouldn't be at the top of your list.
Jungfrau will take up most of a day, very accessible with Switzerland's amazing public transport, but the train up there is one of the most expensive rides you can take.
If you can, you should definitely stay in Lucerne - not Zurich, as it is much more central and it's quite a charming city.
Thanks a lot for your advice!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on January 20, 2016, 04:31:11 AM

For a travel pass it would undoubtedly be best to get the 3 day unlimited travel which is also a 7 day Halbtax

Are you referring to the Swiss Travel Pass?

Also, I'm looking for cheap non-kosher hotels in Engelberg (2 nights) and Wengen (1-2 nights) that can be booked with Avios- any suggestions?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 20, 2016, 05:35:24 AM
Sell your avios and pay for the hotel.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 20, 2016, 11:28:45 AM
anyone know where I there is and early mnioen minceh
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on January 20, 2016, 10:04:24 PM
anyone know where I there is and early mnioen minceh
Could you be a drop less vague?  Lugano? Bern? Schaffhausen? Munchenstein? Ostermundingen? Grandson?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 20, 2016, 10:53:28 PM
Could you be a drop less vague?  Lugano? Bern? Schaffhausen? Munchenstein? Ostermundingen? Grandson?
on my way to the airport coming from levin hotel
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on January 20, 2016, 11:05:36 PM
on my way to the airport coming from levin hotel
Probably in Zurich at Erikastrasse shul, they usually have a bunch, I don't know exactly what times you are going.  Anyways, I thought Arosa has minyanim?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 20, 2016, 11:18:29 PM
I have to know for sure if they will have menin and what time could u please find me out ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 24, 2016, 04:26:05 PM
does anyone know how to check in my suit case all the way from nyc to arose with the train its called green line ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on January 24, 2016, 07:48:34 PM
does anyone know how to check in my suit case all the way from nyc to arose with the train its called green line ?
Read the last few pages
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 24, 2016, 08:43:11 PM
Read the last few pages
Yes o did can u link it please
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on January 24, 2016, 10:09:31 PM
Yes o did can u link it please
I think this is what your looking for.https://www2.raileurope.com/cs/Satellite?assettype=re_addon_c&cobrand=public&country=us&currency=usd&d=Touch&group=re&headeractiveseo=activities&lang=en&pagename=raileurope%2Fwrapper&seotitle=fly-rail-baggage-to-switzerland%2Findex
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on January 31, 2016, 01:44:08 PM
Where in Zurich can I drop my luggage for the Fast Baggage? I'm staying overnight in Zurich and then going up to the Alps.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on February 01, 2016, 07:21:48 AM
Where in Zurich can I drop my luggage for the Fast Baggage? I'm staying overnight in Zurich and then going up to the Alps.
Bump. Anyone have any information?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ABC on February 01, 2016, 07:23:22 AM
Bump. Anyone have any information?

Go downstairs right next to where they sell train tickets, there's the baggage service.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on February 01, 2016, 07:34:28 AM
I'm asking about drop off outside of the airport.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on February 01, 2016, 05:01:35 PM
does it make sense to rent a house since the Yiddish hotel ask about $400 a night ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on February 01, 2016, 05:12:38 PM
does it make sense to rent a house since the Yiddish hotel ask about $400 a night ?

I was wondering the same, and a travel agent told me that for a short stay (3-4 nights) its more cost efficient to rent a house or stay in a non-kosher hotel, and use the kosher hotel for minyan, etc., if you're going for longer than that than you would be better off staying in a kosher hotel since food in switzerland is quite expensive...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 01, 2016, 05:13:44 PM
does it make sense to rent a house since the Yiddish hotel ask about $400 a night ?
I don't mean to be too harsh, but why are your posts so vague?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ABC on February 01, 2016, 05:14:10 PM
does it make sense to rent a house since the Yiddish hotel ask about $400 a night ?

And you will buy food from Yidisher hotel? they will charge you.....
Meir Klein hotel charges CHF 270 a night, I could probably get you a Superior room with balcony, at the daily rate of a Standard room, because I made lately a lot of bookings with them.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on February 01, 2016, 05:39:48 PM
what is the name of the hotel and how much is it in $ us
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chaim E on February 01, 2016, 06:53:27 PM
Nice photo from my summer trip 2015 in Switzerland.
(http://s23.postimg.org/z3zpj0lp7/Switzerland_jungfrau.jpg)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ABC on February 02, 2016, 05:48:49 AM
what is the name of the hotel "Hotel Mirabeau"
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 03, 2016, 10:09:26 AM
Bump. Anyone have any information?
Option 1) Drop of your luggage by ANY train station and have them deliver it to any train station, just give it about 24 hours.
Option 2) Leave your luggage in the airport for about 7 francs a dayu.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 03, 2016, 10:10:48 AM
does it make sense to rent a house since the Yiddish hotel ask about $400 a night ?
Of course it makes sense. I go every year and i usually rent an apartment
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on February 03, 2016, 10:11:51 AM
Of course it makes sense. I go every year and i usually rent an apartment

Which city do you go to?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 03, 2016, 10:14:26 AM
Which city do you go to?
I was in Saas Fee, Zermett, Montana, St moritz, Wengen -my favorite, Lucern, Engelberg, and more... Last summer i was in Klosters and Davos.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on February 03, 2016, 10:28:33 AM
Where did you rent in Wengen? I was planning to go this summer and looking for a place to rent! How much did you pay? Contact info?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 03, 2016, 10:43:34 AM
Where did you rent in Wengen? I was planning to go this summer and looking for a place to rent! How much did you pay? Contact info?
I rented from a local agency (I have to look up the number), the price was about $300 a day for a 3 bdr 2 bath nice new big apartment with a balcony overlooking Jungfrau. Compared to the Kosher hotel which is $350 a day ($950 for Shabbos) For a small old room no major view etc. only pro is the food.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on February 03, 2016, 10:48:24 AM
If you can find the contact info that would be great! Sounds like a great price, and I was anyways planning to bring my own food...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on February 03, 2016, 05:00:13 PM
if I wont to go to Switzerland for a week what area should I cover I don't care about the food where should I stay ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on February 03, 2016, 05:26:18 PM
I rented from a local agency (I have to look up the number), the price was about $300 a day for a 3 bdr 2 bath nice new big apartment with a balcony overlooking Jungfrau. Compared to the Kosher hotel which is $350 a day ($950 for Shabbos) For a small old room no major view etc. only pro is the food.
Would the kosher hotel allow you to just eat there if not staying with them?

Do the supermarkets there carry kosher food?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ABC on February 04, 2016, 03:23:02 AM
Would the kosher hotel allow you to just eat there if not staying with them? They will let but will charge..... To make up for not staying there.

Do the supermarkets there carry kosher food?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on February 04, 2016, 11:36:40 AM
I was in Saas Fee, Zermett, Montana, St moritz, Wengen -my favorite, Lucern, Engelberg, and more... Last summer i was in Klosters and Davos.

Do you have contact info from the agencies you rented from in Wengen & Engelberg?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 04, 2016, 12:56:33 PM
if I wont to go to Switzerland for a week what area should I cover I don't care about the food where should I stay ?
In the Summer? With kids or without?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 04, 2016, 12:59:36 PM
Would the kosher hotel allow you to just eat there if not staying with them?

Do the supermarkets there carry kosher food?
The kosher hotel http://en.tourplus.co.il/kosher-hotel-in-switzerland-for-kosher-summer-vacation-in-swiss-2016 does allow you to buy food but they charge if i remember correctly 80-100 francs for supper...

The local groceries do carry Kosher bread and cereals etc (according to Kosher food list) but not milk or meat
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 04, 2016, 01:02:02 PM
Do you have contact info from the agencies you rented from in Wengen & Engelberg?
The contact for Engelberg is in my TR which you can find in the WIKI, the contact for Wengen i have somewhere i have to find it... I will PM you when i find it.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on February 04, 2016, 01:04:56 PM
The kosher hotel http://en.tourplus.co.il/kosher-hotel-in-switzerland-for-kosher-summer-vacation-in-swiss-2016 does allow you to buy food but they charge if i remember correctly 80-100 francs for supper...

The local groceries do carry Kosher bread and cereals etc (according to Kosher food list) but not milk or meat
Aha. So what do people do about food, if not staying in the kosher hotel?
Bring from Zurich?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ABC on February 04, 2016, 01:10:07 PM
Aha. So what do people do about food, if not staying in the kosher hotel?
Bring from Zurich?

I was this summer in Davos rented an apartment from Mrs. Schmit.
Was very hard shlepping with food from Israel, with pots and pans, and wife had to cook every night.

Next time I would go to a kosher hotel.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 04, 2016, 01:10:35 PM
Aha. So what do people do about food, if not staying in the kosher hotel?
Bring from Zurich?
That is one of the million dollar questions...

Yes, or take along meat. Keep in mind, most things you can buy ANYWHERE think about fruits veggies drinks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 04, 2016, 01:12:28 PM
I was this summer in Davos rented an apartment from Mrs. Schmit.
Was very hard shlepping with food from Israel, with pots and pans, and wife had to cook every night.

Next time I would go to a kosher hotel.
If i would know you were there i would have sent you food... There is also a catering from ZRH that delivers every day supper to Davos for those who order #NextTime
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ABC on February 04, 2016, 01:13:59 PM
If i would know you were there i would have sent you food... There is also a catering from ZRH that delivers every day supper to Davos for those who order #NextTime

Thanks
But I was there for 10 days ;)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on February 04, 2016, 01:34:16 PM
If i would know you were there i would have sent you food... There is also a catering from ZRH that delivers every day supper to Davos for those who order #NextTime
I'm guessing they don't deliver to wengen.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 04, 2016, 01:39:47 PM
I'm guessing they don't deliver to wengen.
Correct. Wengen is over 3 hours from ZRH by train and can only by accessed by train. Cars are not allowed in the village, and in fact there is no road that leads to Wengen the only way is via train.

Davos has a big concentration of Yidden (a few hundred) in the summer (and another about 100 in Klosters that is only 20 minuted from Davos) and it is only 1.5 hours by car from Zurich therefore they provide food there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ABC on February 04, 2016, 01:43:39 PM

Davos has a big concentration of Yidden (a few hundred) in the summer (and another about 100 in Klosters that is only 20 minuted from Davos) and it is only 1.5 hours by car from Zurich therefore they provide food there.

I went to Davos right after everyone left, so was quiet and tickets were much cheaper. But still had a minyen.
I would recommend doing that if you don't have kids going to school or work...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 04, 2016, 01:45:18 PM
I went to Davos right after everyone left, so was quiet and tickets were much cheaper. But still had a minyen.
I would recommend doing that if you don't have kids going to school or work...
But then why wouldn't you go to the REAL alps?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on February 04, 2016, 01:51:07 PM
The kosher hotel http://en.tourplus.co.il/kosher-hotel-in-switzerland-for-kosher-summer-vacation-in-swiss-2016 does allow you to buy food but they charge if i remember correctly 80-100 francs for supper...

The local groceries do carry Kosher bread and cereals etc (according to Kosher food list) but not milk or meat
Seems like the tour is only there Starting  end of June, I was looking to go beginning of April, any idea if Hotel Maribeau that was mentioned upthread will have Kosher food then?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 04, 2016, 01:53:06 PM
Seems like the tour is only there Starting  end of June, I was looking to go beginning of April, any idea if Hotel Maribeau that was mentioned upthread will have Kosher food then?
You mean the one in Crans Montana? If it is open they should have Kosher food
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on February 04, 2016, 01:53:45 PM
You mean the one in Crans Montana? If it is open they should have Kosher food
Is it not in Wengen proper?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 04, 2016, 01:55:57 PM
Is it not in Wengen proper?
No. Wengen is a town on Jungfrou mountain and is in central Switzerland.
Crans Montana is on Montana and is in Southern Switzerland.

See HERE (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Crans-Montana,+Switzerland/Wengen,+Switzerland/@46.4893881,7.4220805,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x478ee033b13cf443:0x7775de3b89e62096!2m2!1d7.4984389!2d46.3425654!1m5!1m1!1s0x478fa1c61e6dd461:0xb1a996face2f0381!2m2!1d7.916667!2d46.6)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on February 04, 2016, 01:57:14 PM
No. Wengen is a town on Jungfrou mountain and is in central Switzerland.
Crans Montana is on Montana and is in Southern Switzerland.
Is Crans Montana as nice as Wengen?

Thanks alot for all your help BTW, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 04, 2016, 01:59:47 PM
Is Crans Montana as nice as Wengen?

Thanks alot for all your help BTW, much appreciated.
Honestly, not as nice. CM is more of a ski resort area where-else Wengen is an expensive breathtaking village. But you have to look on what is easier and better for you.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on February 04, 2016, 02:01:58 PM
Honestly, not as nice. CM is more of a ski resort area where-else Wengen is an expensive breathtaking village. But you have to look on what is easier and better for you.
Would u say Wengen is the nicest place for a short 2 day visit?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on February 04, 2016, 02:02:43 PM
Any takeout in Zurich that would make Pom-like meals?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on February 04, 2016, 07:12:56 PM
Wiki says that the park Hyatt is 10 minute walk to shul. Which shul?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 04, 2016, 07:30:15 PM
Wiki says that the park Hyatt is 10 minute walk to shul. Which shul?
Chabad and Erikastr are 20 min. Not sure which is 10
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 05, 2016, 01:58:51 AM
Wiki says that the park Hyatt is 10 minute walk to shul. Which shul?
IRG shul. 6 min. walk.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on February 05, 2016, 09:27:21 AM
IRG shul. 6 min. walk.
O thanks and they have daily minyunim?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 05, 2016, 12:50:36 PM
O thanks and they have daily minyunim?
I always thought they did, but it seems to be seasonal according to this table. http://www.wwwdesigner.ch/downloads/luach5776.pdf

You can contact them at irg@bluewin.ch for more info. (English is fine.)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Baglach on February 08, 2016, 02:23:51 PM
I always thought they did, but it seems to be seasonal according to this table. http://www.wwwdesigner.ch/downloads/luach5776.pdf

You can contact them at irg@bluewin.ch for more info. (English is fine.)

They have a few Daily minyanim.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on February 08, 2016, 03:29:16 PM
They have a few Daily minyanim.
What's their address?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Baglach on February 08, 2016, 03:31:45 PM
What's their address?

Freigutstrasse 7
8002 Zürich
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on February 08, 2016, 04:02:34 PM
Freigutstrasse 7
8002 Zürich
Thank you
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 08, 2016, 10:54:31 PM
Freigutstrasse 7
8002 Zürich
I beleive it's 37.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on February 09, 2016, 05:29:47 AM
If i would know you were there i would have sent you food... There is also a catering from ZRH that delivers every day supper to Davos for those who order #NextTime

What's the best option for food for 3 days/2 nights in Wengen? Where can I find an updated kosher list of products?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 09, 2016, 10:02:42 AM
Where can I find an updated kosher list of products?
http://www.irgz.ch/koscherliste/
"Aktuell" is the main list, "Anderungen" is the list of the recent changes.
You may need both, not sure.

A little more information in English is available here: http://www.koscher.ch/5038.html
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on February 09, 2016, 10:33:15 AM
What's the best option for food for 3 days/2 nights in Wengen? Where can I find an updated kosher list of products?

where in wengen r u planning to stay ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on February 09, 2016, 11:19:13 AM
where in wengen r u planning to stay ?

Didn't book yet, but not the kosher hotel
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on February 09, 2016, 11:19:42 AM
http://www.irgz.ch/koscherliste/
"Aktuell" is the main list, "Anderungen" is the list of the recent changes.
You may need both, not sure.

A little more information in English is available here: http://www.koscher.ch/5038.html

Thanks!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on February 09, 2016, 11:37:24 AM
Didn't book yet, but not the kosher hotel
I am planning to go there in the end of FEB I am still looking for a nice place .
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on February 09, 2016, 11:43:04 AM
You can try Bellevue Hotel Wengen, not the cheapest but nice hotel and great service, very accommodating with storing and heating up kosher meals

email info@bellevue-wengen.ch for a price quote or call +41 33 856 66 55
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on February 09, 2016, 12:03:46 PM
Anyone ever been to the W in Verbier? Looks like a dream
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on February 10, 2016, 10:28:33 AM
Anyone know of any hachnosas orchim apartments in Lucerne?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on February 10, 2016, 05:10:36 PM
What is the nicest city in Switzerland to visit ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 10, 2016, 05:19:02 PM
What is the nicest city in Switzerland to visit ?
http://www.neverstoptraveling.com/the-top-10-places-in-switzerland

http://www.touropia.com/best-places-to-visit-in-switzerland/

http://www.expatica.com/ch/out-and-about/places/Top-10-places-to-visit-in-Switzerland_102301.html

https://www.raileurope.com/blog/13063-the-best-cities-to-visit-in-switzerland-by-train
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on February 10, 2016, 05:42:43 PM
http://www.neverstoptraveling.com/the-top-10-places-in-switzerland

http://www.touropia.com/best-places-to-visit-in-switzerland/

http://www.expatica.com/ch/out-and-about/places/Top-10-places-to-visit-in-Switzerland_102301.html

https://www.raileurope.com/blog/13063-the-best-cities-to-visit-in-switzerland-by-train

so I guess crans montana is not one of the 10 . if I got to the kosher hotel in crans montana .for the weekend what other area should I chose for 2 more days ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 10, 2016, 09:35:15 PM
What is the nicest city in Switzerland to visit ?
As long as you're not in the north.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on February 11, 2016, 10:17:27 AM
If I have a 12:40 flight to TLV ex Zurich, is it cutting it too close to arrive to the airport train station at 11:15?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 11, 2016, 10:23:25 AM
so I guess crans montana is not one of the 10 . if I got to the kosher hotel in crans montana .for the weekend what other area should I chose for 2 more days ?
If you have 2 extra days, if you want to ski go to Saas Fee. If you want to "SEE" go to Wengen
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 11, 2016, 10:29:23 AM
If I have a 12:40 flight to TLV ex Zurich, is it cutting it too close to arrive to the airport train station at 11:15?
That itself would be just about tight. But if you are referring to arriving by train one miss connection and you will miss your flight. Rather aim for an earlier train.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on February 13, 2016, 12:57:25 PM
I am Landing in ZRH Sunday at 7:15 pm which place is recommended to eat? meat or dairy. (I am staying at the park Haytt)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on February 13, 2016, 01:28:35 PM
I am Landing in ZRH Sunday at 7:15 pm which place is recommended to eat? meat or dairy. (I am staying at the park Haytt)
Seems like olive garden is the only Fleishig restaurant in Zurich, not sure about Milchigs.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on February 16, 2016, 02:48:02 PM
How many hours would you need to do Titlis and Brunni? Is getting to Engelberg at 12 pm too late to do both? (summertime)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 17, 2016, 02:14:43 PM
How many hours would you need to do Titlis and Brunni? Is getting to Engelberg at 12 pm too late to do both? (summertime)
I think they both close at 5:00pm if so you will not have enough time for both unless you rush like crazy, but rather enjoy what you pay for...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on February 24, 2016, 06:01:51 PM
Are there minyanim in Lucerne during Bein Hazmanim?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on February 24, 2016, 11:13:06 PM
Are there minyanim in Lucerne during Bein Hazmanim?
probably one a day.  In the yekkish shul.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on March 05, 2016, 05:48:01 PM
I am planning on stopping in Switzerland on my home from TLV.

What would you recommend for a couple with a baby in early April for 2/3 days?

We are not looking for skiing, just for a relaxing place with gorgeous scenery.

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on March 05, 2016, 07:03:28 PM
just for a relaxing place with gorgeous scenery.
Interlaken / Jungfrau area?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on March 05, 2016, 07:33:01 PM
Interlaken / Jungfrau area?
+1.

Or maybe Geneva region if you can work out that stopover.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on March 06, 2016, 06:07:37 PM
whats the cheapest pass?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on March 07, 2016, 04:02:10 PM
whats the cheapest pass?

Details? For which area? For how long? Etc.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: loveddeals on March 11, 2016, 08:54:36 AM
Reaching Zurich around 2 PM on Friday and leaving at 7 AM on Sunday from Zurich. Please advice things to do? Should we stay in Zurich or cover close by places? Indian filmmakers always show so much natural beauty in Switzerland that it has been always one of the top places to visit.

For now, have reserved Crown Plaza Zurich (had IHG points), but it is no-penalty cancellation.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on March 13, 2016, 01:40:35 PM
i have a full day inn switzerland and dont want to go to far frrom zrh where should i go?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on March 13, 2016, 02:46:56 PM
i have a full day inn switzerland and dont want to go to far frrom zrh where should i go?
look into pilatus, titlis, Kleiner Scheidegg, depending on your time.
Or perhaps a boatride on Lake Lucerne.

I recommend you try to avoid the Zurich-Bern train route as it is does not have the scenery Switzerland is known for.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on March 13, 2016, 04:15:01 PM
look into pilatus, titlis, Kleiner Scheidegg, depending on your time.
Or perhaps a boatride on Lake Lucerne.

I recommend you try to avoid the Zurich-Bern train route as it is does not have the scenery Switzerland is known for.
my question was which one of those(or more tthan one( should i do?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on March 13, 2016, 09:24:54 PM
my question was which one of those(or more tthan one( should i do?
I do not know exactly how much time you have.  These are just a few things that people manage to do on stopovers.  Don't count on doing more than one.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: loveddeals on March 13, 2016, 11:25:20 PM
Reaching Zurich around 2 PM on Friday and leaving at 7 AM on Sunday from Zurich. Please advice things to do? Should we stay in Zurich or cover close by places? Indian filmmakers always show so much natural beauty in Switzerland that it has been always one of the top places to visit.

For now, have reserved Crown Plaza Zurich (had IHG points), but it is no-penalty cancellation.

Bump.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on March 15, 2016, 04:00:29 PM
Kleiner Scheidegg, depending on your time.
-1 won't work out due to time
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on March 15, 2016, 04:01:17 PM
Bump.
In the summer or in the winter? Looking for a Kosher hotel or/and Minyan?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on March 15, 2016, 04:06:16 PM
I do not know exactly how much time you have.  These are just a few things that people manage to do on stopovers.  Don't count on doing more than one.
i have a full day
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on March 15, 2016, 07:49:31 PM
In the summer or in the winter? Looking for a Kosher hotel or/and Minyan?

Non 613 it appears, so question not relevant.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: loveddeals on March 16, 2016, 05:27:14 PM
In the summer or in the winter? Looking for a Kosher hotel or/and Minyan?

Reaching there in June 10, so I guess it is Summer :)

Sorry don't know about  Kosher hotel or/and Minyan..I am Indian

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on March 16, 2016, 09:18:13 PM
Reaching there in June 10, so I guess it is Summer :)

Sorry don't know about  Kosher hotel or/and Minyan..I am Indian
Your options are unlimited from little traveling and nice views like Lucerne to more complex traveling but magnificent views like Jungfrau the downside is that you will not have too much time to enjoy and take in the scenery.

P.S. most of the Indian films (dances) recorded in Switzerland were taken by the mountains in the south boarding Italy like Zermatt
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: loveddeals on March 17, 2016, 11:55:32 AM
Your options are unlimited from little traveling and nice views like Lucerne to more complex traveling but magnificent views like Jungfrau the downside is that you will not have too much time to enjoy and take in the scenery.

P.S. most of the Indian films (dances) recorded in Switzerland were taken by the mountains in the south boarding Italy like Zermatt

Thanks for the advice VacationLover. You are right that we won't have much time in Jungfrau. May be for next trip whence go to Zermatt.

Lucerne looks like doable in one day. I am thinking like spending half-day in Zurich (unless there is lot more things to do here) and then next day go to Lucerne. Is this good plan? How much is the train between Zurich - Lucerne.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on March 17, 2016, 11:59:04 AM
Thanks for the advice VacationLover. You are right that we won't have much time in Jungfrau. May be for next trip whence go to Zermatt.

Lucerne looks like doable in one day. I am thinking like spending half-day in Zurich (unless there is lot more things to do here) and then next day go to Lucerne. Is this good plan? How much is the train between Zurich - Lucerne.
That sounds like a good plan to me. You can check the train timetable and prices here sbb.ch/en
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: loveddeals on March 17, 2016, 12:23:17 PM
That sounds like a good plan to me. You can check the train timetable and prices here sbb.ch/en

So, not much do to in Zurich? Or, I guess what to do in Zurich in half-day?

Also, train ticket between Zurich - Lucerne is ~57 CHF..anyway to get it for less?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on March 17, 2016, 02:32:06 PM
So, not much do to in Zurich? Or, I guess what to do in Zurich in half-day?

Also, train ticket between Zurich - Lucerne is ~57 CHF..anyway to get it for less?
There is what to do in Zurich, but not scenery-wise.  Train should only cost 25 IIRC.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: loveddeals on March 17, 2016, 04:00:19 PM
There is what to do in Zurich, but not scenery-wise.  Train should only cost 25 IIRC.

Sorry I should have bene clearer: what should we do in Zurich in half-day to cover the main things?

Is that train ticket of 25 RT or OW?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on March 17, 2016, 07:21:50 PM
Sorry I should have bene clearer: what should we do in Zurich in half-day to cover the main things?

Is that train ticket of 25 RT or OW?
Most tourists stroll the streets or go shopping.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on March 17, 2016, 09:05:45 PM
Is that train ticket of 25 RT or OW?
OW
Most tourists stroll the streets or go shopping.
+1 Bahnhofstrasse is popular.  Also, a walk along the lake can be nice, especially in the summer, and you can check out the old city.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: loveddeals on March 17, 2016, 10:07:32 PM
Most tourists stroll the streets or go shopping.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: loveddeals on March 17, 2016, 10:07:47 PM
OW+1 Bahnhofstrasse is popular.  Also, a walk along the lake can be nice, especially in the summer, and you can check out the old city.

Thanks, will do.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on March 20, 2016, 08:03:06 AM
anyone have info on the new spg design hotel The Cambrian, Adelboden?
is it near anything special?
how far from the closest minyan?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yisroel klein on March 24, 2016, 05:52:57 AM
anyone do lake lucerne and rigi/pilatus from zurich, any info?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on March 25, 2016, 08:24:54 AM
anyone do lake lucerne and rigi/pilatus from zurich, any info?
What exactly is your question?  They were both discussed several times here. Rigi is a joke vs. Pilatus
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: travel-ing on March 30, 2016, 06:19:23 PM
which is a better hotel to stay in sheraton stam or sheraton neoss shloss in terms of nicer and location(i have day pass so have the tram)?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: travel-ing on April 02, 2016, 02:57:44 PM
going to zurich landing tue 9pm abd departing thur1035am, is it a waste to use free sign up nights on such a short 2 nights? (i have a reservation in sheraton around the corner 4 12k points currently 20k)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on April 02, 2016, 03:36:09 PM
going to zurich landing tue 9pm abd departing thur1035am, is it a waste to use free sign up nights on such a short 2 nights? (i have a reservation in sheraton around the corner 4 12k points currently 20k)
Meaning in the PH Zurich? Go for it. I did and I would again.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 18, 2016, 11:56:42 AM
What are my options for phone service there for 2 weeks? Do they have reasonably priced plans in the airport?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bestwatchman on May 18, 2016, 12:06:43 PM
Nothing is reasonably priced in Switzerland and definitely not in an airport... Sunrise is the cheapest of the big phone companies and lebara is a pay as you go with better international calling plans
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on May 18, 2016, 12:06:51 PM
What are my options for phone service there for 2 weeks? Do they have reasonably priced plans in the airport?
I used to use Lebara they were very reasonable, now I use T-mobile
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on May 18, 2016, 11:54:41 PM
What are my options for phone service there for 2 weeks? Do they have reasonably priced plans in the airport?
I used M Budget from the Migros a few years. Came out the cheapest. But can't you use the Israeli Sims? Don't they have free roaming in many European countries?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 19, 2016, 01:54:31 AM
I used M Budget from the Migros a few years. Came out the cheapest. But can't you use the Israeli Sims? Don't they have free roaming in many European countries?
That's only one provider. This isn't for me.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: loveddeals on May 19, 2016, 11:55:15 AM
What are my options for phone service there for 2 weeks? Do they have reasonably priced plans in the airport?

Have you considered T-Mobile's simple choice plans? It offers free data (at slow speed though) and texts, voice is $0.20/minute.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: stbaum on June 07, 2016, 12:17:10 PM
does it make sense to go to Switzerland for more than 2 days? i'm wondering if i should take it easy and relax there for 3/4 days and then move the vacation to Paris or Venice. i don't want to do more than 2/3 cities/countries and i have 10 days vacation including 2 shabbosim.

my question is, how long would it take to take a train from Zurich to Venice and how long till Paris. they both seem equal distance from ZRH
question 2, would it make more sense to do Paris, Zurich, and then Venice? (i must leave Sunday and would only do Venice on Shabbos)
question 3, is it too much to just park myself down in Zurich and just take it all in nice and slow?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on June 07, 2016, 02:51:13 PM
does it make sense to go to Switzerland for more than 2 days? i'm wondering if i should take it easy and relax there for 3/4 days and then move the vacation to Paris or Venice. i don't want to do more than 2/3 cities/countries and i have 10 days vacation including 2 shabbosim.
my question is, how long would it take to take a train from Zurich to Venice and how long till Paris. they both seem equal distance from ZRH

I think on your way by train Zürich to Venice you have to transfer in Milan, so if you are already there you might just as well look around.

question 2, would it make more sense to do Paris, Zurich, and then Venice? (i must leave Sunday and would only do Venice on Shabbos)
question 3, is it too much to just park myself down in Zurich and just take it all in nice and slow?
A lot depends on your mode of transportation between these cities. car, train, plane?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: stbaum on June 07, 2016, 02:56:19 PM
I think on your way by train Zürich to Venice you have to transfer in Milan, so if you are already there you might just as well look around.
A lot depends on your mode of transportation between these cities. car, train, plane?

was thinking of doing NYC>Venice Fri-Sunday/Monday

fly Venice>Paris Mon-Wed ($57)

train from Paris >Switzerland Wed-Sunday and then fly back home.

reasonable?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on June 07, 2016, 03:08:42 PM
was thinking of doing NYC>Venice Fri-Sunday/Monday

fly Venice>Paris Mon-Wed ($57)

train from Paris >Switzerland Wed-Sunday and then fly back home.

reasonable?
sounds good to me :)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Solma on June 08, 2016, 06:48:19 AM
I would recommend to buy a sim from Yallo, i think they are cheapest for international calling and you can buy it in the airport. 
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: stbaum on June 08, 2016, 07:52:50 AM
I would recommend to buy a sim from Yallo, i think they are cheapest for international calling and you can buy it in the airport.
Will keep that in mind. Thanks. Is that in the Venice wiki?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on June 08, 2016, 12:16:05 PM
does it make sense to go to Switzerland for more than 2 days? i'm wondering if i should take it easy and relax there for 3/4 days and then move the vacation to Paris or Venice. i don't want to do more than 2/3 cities/countries and i have 10 days vacation including 2 shabbosim.

my question is, how long would it take to take a train from Zurich to Venice and how long till Paris. they both seem equal distance from ZRH
question 2, would it make more sense to do Paris, Zurich, and then Venice? (i must leave Sunday and would only do Venice on Shabbos)
question 3, is it too much to just park myself down in Zurich and just take it all in nice and slow?
See in bold
does it make sense to go to Switzerland for more than 2 days? i'm wondering if i should take it easy and relax there for 3/4 days It really depends on your nature. My family travels every year to Switzerland and stay there the entire summer to relax... I usually go there for a week, not to relax but to tour and hike, have fun etc. Relaxing you can do at home or in Miami LOL. So it really depends on whether you are looking to relax or to have some fun and enjoy the scenes.

my question is, how long would it take to take a train from Zurich to Venice and how long till Paris Assuming you checked it on Google before posting here  :P I have traveled ZRH-VCE several times, both by train and by airplane and somehow I liked more the 45 minute flight than the 8 hour train ride with multiple stops.

question 3, is it too much to just park myself down in Zurich and just take it all in nice and slow? Again, depends on your nature and what YOU like, But regardless if you want to tour, relax or hike  an epic trail I would not stay in Zurich but in a town on the Alps.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on June 20, 2016, 10:56:08 AM
Im looking at being in the alps for Sukkos, and / or the shabbos after sukkos. Are there any all year round minyanim / programs with our without food in the alps?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Netster on July 05, 2016, 04:24:54 AM
Any kosher food in Luzern?
Also any suggestion what to see today if i have a few hours?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on July 05, 2016, 04:37:00 AM
Any kosher food in Luzern?
Also any suggestion what to see today if i have a few hours?

No kosher food there. Just the typical kosher list.

Pilatus is a must if you're in Lucerne.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on July 05, 2016, 11:17:54 AM
Also any suggestion what to see today if i have a few hours?
Pilatus is a must if you're in Lucerne.
If you're left with an hour or two, check out the Kapellbrucke, the old city including Museggmauer, walk around the lakefront and river.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: travel-ing on July 05, 2016, 12:23:40 PM
Any kosher food in Luzern?
Also any suggestion what to see today if i have a few hours?
you can get a pass that will allow you to take the boat on lake lucerne and go up mt rigi
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: 123ablack on July 06, 2016, 12:00:01 AM
Hi, planning on staying at the Maloja St. Moritz later this month.
I'll be coming from Lviv Ukraine (LWO) with a stop in Vienna (VIE).
1st leg (LWO-VIE) is via Austrian Airlines - 2nd Leg (VIE-ZRH) is via Swiss Air.

in the topic wiki I see there's an option to have your luggage checked in somewhere at ZRH airport via SBB and they'll deliver them to your end location/hotel.

Question; is there any way I can check in my luggage at the LWO airport with SBB (or any similar service) and they'll deliver it straight to the Maloja hotel? Or does it only from ZRH to the hotel/end location?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: travel-ing on July 06, 2016, 05:25:50 PM
Any kosher food in Luzern?
Also any suggestion what to see today if i have a few hours?
http://koshermealsworldwide.com/our-kosher-food/
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Baglach on July 08, 2016, 12:54:54 AM
Hi, planning on staying at the Maloja St. Moritz later this month.
I'll be coming from Lviv Ukraine (LWO) with a stop in Vienna (VIE).
1st leg (LWO-VIE) is via Austrian Airlines - 2nd Leg (VIE-ZRH) is via Swiss Air.

in the topic wiki I see there's an option to have your luggage checked in somewhere at ZRH airport via SBB and they'll deliver them to your end location/hotel.

Question; is there any way I can check in my luggage at the LWO airport with SBB (or any similar service) and they'll deliver it straight to the Maloja hotel? Or does it only from ZRH to the hotel/end location?

Thanks in advance


You can buy a tag by any airport that has a swiss ticketing desk and the tag goes on to the suitcase. So in your case it would not be possible since your first flight is not with swiss, unless you get a hold of these tags before( can be bought at any SBB Train station for 20 chf per tag/luggage)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on July 12, 2016, 06:41:15 PM
Interlaken / Jungfrau area?
Where would you recommend staying in Interlaken?  And would you recommend renting a car, or taking a train? (couple with a baby and luggage)
Title: Zurich Hotels
Post by: Jay_dubya on July 21, 2016, 11:06:06 AM
I'll be in Zurich for a day in August. I'm planning to stay at the Kameha Grand Zurich (Autograph Collection)
Any reviews?
Does anyone know if they, or any other Marriott, will provide a Kosher breakfast?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ploni3 on July 21, 2016, 01:15:16 PM
Where would you recommend staying in Interlaken?  And would you recommend renting a car, or taking a train? (couple with a baby and luggage)
We stayed at the Kosher place in Wengen. It was incredibly convenient not to have to worry about food and the location is great and the facilities clean and fine. We took a train from ZRH and that was convenient as well, though you wil have to switch once or twice. No cars are allowed in Wengen.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: emesmusic on July 25, 2016, 08:32:50 AM
Does anyone know if there are any minyanim in Zermatt over the summer?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: tafastamerubaLOtafasta on July 25, 2016, 01:26:21 PM
trying to plan a trip for me my wife and kid trying to see where to start. Is there much to do in Zurich? I was planning on doing 3 days in Zurich by the Park Hyatt and then 4 days in Arosa by the kosher hotel (prestige card for 4th night free). Any ideas? Is Switzerland a good idea with a 1yr old?? TIA!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on July 25, 2016, 01:31:52 PM
trying to plan a trip for me my wife and kid trying to see where to start. Is there much to do in Zurich? I was planning on doing 3 days in Zurich by the Park Hyatt and then 4 days in Arosa by the kosher hotel (prestige card for 4th night free). Any ideas? Is Switzerland a good idea with a 1yr old?? TIA!
Zurich itself is not worth your time.  Maybe spend one day there.  (Or just the nights.)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on July 25, 2016, 01:32:49 PM


  4 days in Arosa by the kosher hotel (prestige card for 4th night free). Any ideas? Is Switzerland a good idea with a 1yr old?? TIA!

I asked last year here and no one knew the answer, please report back if you're able to use the 4th night benefit for levins.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: tafastamerubaLOtafasta on July 25, 2016, 01:42:04 PM
why would it not? Should  be looking to go to other cities?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on July 25, 2016, 01:44:59 PM
why would it not? Should  be looking to go to other cities?
Citi's travel agency has to be able to book it.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: tafastamerubaLOtafasta on July 25, 2016, 05:04:48 PM
aha
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Dj on July 25, 2016, 06:37:57 PM
Should be able to book Levin Arosa with Prestige. I was able to book Kempinski St. Moritz kosher package by having Citi Concierge call hotel directly. Same should work with Levin.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ABC on July 26, 2016, 08:50:43 AM
I was able to book the hotel mentioned below, I made a reservation with the hotel and called Citi with the hotels number and I told them to confirm with them. They told me I am eligible for 4th night.
Didn't sound like Citi has a list of hotels they approve... She picked up the second line and dialed right away the number I gave.
 
Alpen-Karawanserai
Hasenbachweg 222
5754 Hinterglemm
Telefon Reception: +43 6541 6497
www.kosher-hotel.at
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on July 27, 2016, 10:50:47 PM
What's a nice spg hotel in Zurich?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on July 28, 2016, 02:42:38 AM
What's a nice spg hotel in Zurich?
I'm pretty sure there are only 2.

1 in Zurich.

And a Sheraton in Davos.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on July 28, 2016, 10:46:32 AM




And a Sheraton in Davos.

-1, was told by a spg rep that they left the program.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on July 28, 2016, 11:26:13 AM

-1, was told by a spg rep that they left the program.
I stand corrected then.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on August 04, 2016, 07:36:35 PM
Connecting via Zurich with an overnight connection,
Any recommendations for a cheap hotel for one night 2 adults 5 little kids  near the airport ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: oiseli48 on August 04, 2016, 07:56:08 PM
They have rooms in the airport itself I've stayed for 3 hours once during the day (after an overnight flight). It's called day rooms.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on August 04, 2016, 08:05:09 PM
They have rooms in the airport itself I've stayed for 3 hours once during the day (after an overnight flight). It's called day rooms.
Is that only during the day ( it is called day room) or at night as well ?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: maskim on August 04, 2016, 11:03:04 PM
Hi
I am traveling with 10 adults and 11 children from Zurich to st. Moritz on the wiki there was no info on the family pass for the train. Does anyone know the best/cheapest way to get there?
Thanks
Mendy
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on August 07, 2016, 01:50:26 AM
are any of the kosher hotels in the alps open year round (primarily in october after Sukkos)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on August 07, 2016, 02:57:33 AM
are any of the kosher hotels in the alps open year round (primarily in october after Sukkos)
Arosa, and Crans Montana are open all year round IINM.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on August 07, 2016, 03:32:19 AM
Arosa, and Crans Montana are open all year round IINM.
Can you be more specific to the name of the hotels and links if possible.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on August 07, 2016, 03:38:43 AM
Can you be more specific to the name of the hotels and links if possible.
Thanks!
More info is available in the Wiki.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: travel-ing on August 07, 2016, 05:44:20 AM
What's a nice spg hotel in Zurich?
3 in zurich
sheraton zurich new but a little out of it
four points dont know much about
Sheraton Zurich Neues Schloss small business style

there are a bunch new spg by design hotels as well not in zurich
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Ploni3 on August 07, 2016, 07:46:49 AM
Hi
I am traveling with 10 adults and 11 children from Zurich to st. Moritz on the wiki there was no info on the family pass for the train. Does anyone know the best/cheapest way to get there?
Thanks
Mendy
http://m.swisstravelsystem.com/en/passes/swiss-family-card.html

Will give you details on family pass. Whether adults should buy a pass or a return ticket depends on how much other use of the system you plan to make. https://www.ricksteves.com/travel-tips/transportation/trains/switzerland-rail-passes is a good source of information to work that through.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Baglach on August 07, 2016, 07:57:28 AM
Hi
I am traveling with 10 adults and 11 children from Zurich to st. Moritz on the wiki there was no info on the family pass for the train. Does anyone know the best/cheapest way to get there?
Thanks
Mendy

It would probably be cheaper and a lot easier to get a jewish taxi guy (might need two cars or busses for this amount of people.
Here are two people that I have their numbers but there is more especially over the summer.
Mr. Meir Gutman +41796661218
Mr. Eliezer Blumenthal +41787330801
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Baglach on August 07, 2016, 08:00:56 AM
are any of the kosher hotels in the alps open year round (primarily in october after Sukkos)

No Hotels are actually open all year round. Arosa which is run by Levin Family opens mid Nov depending on the season.
Davos is your best shot as they have a shul, kosher food all year round but don't always have a minyan and the hotel there is only open in the summer
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on August 07, 2016, 08:58:02 PM
No Hotels are actually open all year round. Arosa which is run by Levin Family opens mid Nov depending on the season.
Davos is your best shot as they have a shul, kosher food all year round but don't always have a minyan and the hotel there is only open in the summer
Thanks! What's the name of the shul or kosher eatery in Davos?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: elya on August 08, 2016, 05:04:49 AM
Thanks! What's the name of the shul or kosher eatery in Davos?
There is no Kosher eatery in Davos. The Supermarket carries many Kosher products.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on August 08, 2016, 01:30:25 PM
There is no Kosher eatery in Davos. The Supermarket carries many Kosher products.
ok. what about the shul? i couldnt find anything online.

Does it feel like Ghost Town in October?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ABC on August 08, 2016, 02:04:58 PM
ok. what about the shul? i couldnt find anything online.

Does it feel like Ghost Town in October?

Yes.
And there's no kosher food year round.
There's a kosher list that people use but it's just the basic, פת ישראל is only in the summer.
I was there September and musbachar said can't buy bread anymore.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: HBERG on August 15, 2016, 02:27:16 PM
Any kosher food in Luzern?
Also any suggestion what to see today if i have a few hours?
Check out Hess it's a watch boutique that gives you a tour of watchmaking
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on August 15, 2016, 08:39:17 PM
What are the minyanim options in Lucerne?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: tafastamerubaLOtafasta on August 21, 2016, 05:40:22 AM
with wife and kid whats best way to get from airport to Park Hyatt in Zurich???
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Travelisfun on August 23, 2016, 06:16:52 AM
Hi!

Thank you all - especially chuchem - for all the great information here.

My wife and I have a 12 hour stopover on our way to TLV.  Most of the posts advised going to Lucerne as it is an easy train ride and a fun/cool place to hang out for a few hours.

A friend of mine who has been to Switzerland several times insists that instead I should rent a car and drive to Davos (the train takes too long), which is about 2 hours away.  He says those are "real mountains".  I looked up the pictures on the Internet and does indeed look breathtaking, and a 2 hour drive each way with a 12 hour stopover does seem reasonable/doable, but was wondering what the real experts thought.

Is Davos really that much better than Lucerne?
Is renting a car/driving easy in Switzerland?  I know it's expensive - the price I got quoted was $120 for the day (including VAT and airport charge), but are there other large hidden fees?
We are flying Swiss Air Business Class and I know my luggage will go through to TLV, but can we leave our carry-ons in the lounge?
Is there kosher food in the Swiss Air lounge?

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: hr555 on August 23, 2016, 05:50:25 PM
https://www.zurich-airport.com/passengers-and-visitors/airport-services-en/baggage-service

I don't believe there is kosher in the lounge other than fruit etc.

Hi!

Thank you all - especially chuchem - for all the great information here.

My wife and I have a 12 hour stopover on our way to TLV.  Most of the posts advised going to Lucerne as it is an easy train ride and a fun/cool place to hang out for a few hours.

A friend of mine who has been to Switzerland several times insists that instead I should rent a car and drive to Davos (the train takes too long), which is about 2 hours away.  He says those are "real mountains".  I looked up the pictures on the Internet and does indeed look breathtaking, and a 2 hour drive each way with a 12 hour stopover does seem reasonable/doable, but was wondering what the real experts thought.

Is Davos really that much better than Lucerne?
Is renting a car/driving easy in Switzerland?  I know it's expensive - the price I got quoted was $120 for the day (including VAT and airport charge), but are there other large hidden fees?
We are flying Swiss Air Business Class and I know my luggage will go through to TLV, but can we leave our carry-ons in the lounge?
Is there kosher food in the Swiss Air lounge?

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Kabrams1618 on September 01, 2016, 12:01:13 AM
I will be in geneva from a thursday until a sunday.  Where do you suggest we visit.  Where can we go without a car on a day trip? What is the deal with kosher food.  Any recommendations for places to daven on Shabbat?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on September 04, 2016, 11:24:25 PM
We are landing in Zurich. What alps has the most direct / shortest trains?
Any recommendations for accommodation decently priced  (kosher hotels will b closed by end of October )
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: davmtl on September 11, 2016, 08:29:53 AM
What are the minyanim options in Lucerne?
Bump.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: davmtl on September 11, 2016, 08:42:14 AM
i am in Zurich Wednesday till Sunday.
got some time to kill for a day trip thursday morning/noon to friday noon. any ideas as to a nice trip?
i was thinking lucerne, any ideas on a good hotel? i've got spg points and marriott, but i can pay if needed.
or does anyone have a better idea?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Kabrams1618 on September 11, 2016, 11:05:52 PM
Which swiss chocolates that ae can buy in switzerland are kosher?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on September 11, 2016, 11:10:20 PM
i am in Zurich Wednesday till Sunday.
got some time to kill for a day trip thursday morning/noon to friday noon. any ideas as to a nice trip?
i was thinking lucerne, any ideas on a good hotel? i've got spg points and marriott, but i can pay if needed.
or does anyone have a better idea?

grindelwald  You wont regret going there..
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: davmtl on September 12, 2016, 02:13:49 AM
grindelwald  You wont regret going there..
It looks like a 3 hour train journey which I can't really afford on a Friday afternoon
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on September 12, 2016, 03:12:55 PM
Which swiss chocolates that ae can buy in switzerland are kosher?
http://www.irgz.ch/downloads/koscherliste_aktuell.pdf
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: User6669 on September 19, 2016, 01:26:10 PM
Is there any hachnosas orchim place in Zurich?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: User6669 on September 21, 2016, 08:40:03 AM
Is there any hachnosas orchim place in Zurich?

BUMP

Any contact info for a place to stay in Zurich, or Cuch em contact info. Please PM.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on October 12, 2016, 10:19:42 PM
is there a catererer or something that would deliver food to davos?
how is switzerland with bringing in food/cooked meat etc from europe?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bestwatchman on October 13, 2016, 07:08:56 AM
how is switzerland with bringing in food/cooked meat etc from europe?
Meat is very strict! Each person is allowed to bring in 1kg per day. More than that must be declared at a tax of CHF17/kg up to 10kg and CHF23/kg after 10kg.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on October 21, 2016, 12:02:05 AM
Is there anything that's open in early-mid November? Looks like everything is closed for maintenance.. Also, is it worth it to rent a car in Switzerland for a week? Are there toll roads?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on October 21, 2016, 08:26:13 AM
Is there anything that's open in early-mid November? Looks like everything is closed for maintenance.. Also, is it worth it to rent a car in Switzerland for a week? Are there toll roads?
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g188045-i336-k5591085-Toll_Roads-Switzerland.html
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on October 21, 2016, 09:33:36 AM
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g188045-i336-k5591085-Toll_Roads-Switzerland.html
Thanks. And any ideas of something that's open? Everything closes October 23rd and opens in December.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on October 26, 2016, 03:08:26 AM
Arriving in zurich soon. Debating between Kosher bagel and fein n Shain for lunch. Any suggestions? is there any particular drive to davos that is nicer we should take ( rather than just follow the GPS?)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: stevendre on October 26, 2016, 06:00:32 AM
Arriving in zurich soon. Debating between Kosher bagel and fein n Shain for lunch. Any suggestions? is there any particular drive to davos that is nicer we should take ( rather than just follow the GPS?)
Been to both.  Definitely Fein n Shein. Small menu but great food
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on October 26, 2016, 06:45:50 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on October 29, 2016, 03:01:20 PM
Thanks for the advice of Fein n Shein. The guy working there was extremely nice! Lunch was amazing. I didnt  realize that they close a 2 PM....
Is there anyone open on Sunday mornings in zurich for breakfast? Kosher Bagesl shows closed on sundays on their website. is this accurate?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on October 30, 2016, 03:50:42 AM
Thanks for the advice of Fein n Shein. The guy working there was extremely nice! Lunch was amazing. I didnt  realize that they close a 2 PM....
Is there anyone open on Sunday mornings in zurich for breakfast? Kosher Bagesl shows closed on sundays on their website. is this accurate?
Bump
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Kabrams1618 on November 07, 2016, 08:54:13 AM
Is mt. Saleve cable car open at end of november
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on November 09, 2016, 10:51:50 AM
The new Design Hotel that you can book for 12,000 SPG in Locarno is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bestwatchman on November 12, 2016, 10:45:21 PM
Is mt. Saleve cable car open at end of november
nope, closes evening of nov 13th. reopens december 16th. Fwiw, you can drive up to the cable car landing.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bestwatchman on November 13, 2016, 03:40:53 AM
I have two Swiss youth travel passes with two days unfilled valid until the 29th (of november). They are non-transferable..
Free (בלי אחריות)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Kabrams1618 on November 13, 2016, 03:20:03 PM
Anyplace in geneva to sled/ tobaggon in the next two weeks?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bestwatchman on November 14, 2016, 05:25:27 AM
Anyplace in geneva to sled/ tobaggon in the next two weeks?
no such thing in Geneva. Best to check Megeve or Chamonix (both about 1hr away).
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 22, 2016, 10:38:09 AM
Where is nicer easier to stay over shabbos zurich or london?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: MANDMMOM on November 22, 2016, 12:50:49 PM
Where can I eat Shabbos meals in St Moritz? Or do I have to buy before in Zurich and take along?
Is there a Minyan in Jan/Feb too?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on November 22, 2016, 07:12:47 PM
Where can I eat Shabbos meals in St Moritz? Or do I have to buy before in Zurich and take along?
Is there a Minyan in Jan/Feb too?
Pretty sure the answer is no to all the questions. Buy before in Zurich. Not 100% sure though. The Jewish hotel might be open.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on November 27, 2016, 08:23:33 PM
Thinking of traveling to Switzerland. Is a week too short to spend traveling around Switzerland? How many days is ideal to spend in Zurich, Lucerne, Alps? Are Geneva and Basel worth going to?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ethana on November 29, 2016, 04:59:41 PM
what are some good day trips to take from zurich in the winter?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 29, 2016, 05:25:20 PM
Where can I eat Shabbos meals in St Moritz? Or do I have to buy before in Zurich and take along?
Is there a Minyan in Jan/Feb too?
Kempsinski hotel in St Moritz has a kosher skiing program, not sure which dates
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ethana on December 11, 2016, 06:25:27 PM
going to be in switzerland from tuesday to thursday night. staying one night in lucerne and one night in zurich. what's the best option for trains?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Round2 on December 11, 2016, 06:32:09 PM
Google maps
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ethana on December 11, 2016, 06:39:10 PM
sorry- I meant price-wise. trying to figure out what's most cost effective
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on December 12, 2016, 11:25:11 AM
going to be in switzerland from tuesday to thursday night. staying one night in lucerne and one night in zurich. what's the best option for trains?
sorry- I meant price-wise. trying to figure out what's most cost effective
Best option is to be a youth or a senior. Listen,  you don't go to Switzerland expecting to save money anywhere.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: dpk4588 on January 12, 2017, 12:29:11 PM
I just finished reading the 1400 posts here. First of all the amount of repetition here is insane.

I've got a 14+ hour layover and from what I've read that's enough time to go to Luzern and back but I'm still unclear on a few things.

1) What to do about travel for one day. I looked into the 1 day travel pass and it looks like it needs to be used along with the Half-Fare travelcard. I'm not even sure which of the 4 Half-Fare travelcard I'd need to get.

2) I'm going in February so the Golden Ticket isnt an option as its only available May-October. Does it make sense to take the Panorama Gondola (http://www.pilatus.ch/en/railway-cableways/panorama-gondola/) and Aerial Cableway (http://www.pilatus.ch/en/railway-cableways/aerial-cableway/) to Pilatus? If I do that how do I get back to Luzern? The Golden Ticket Map (http://pilatus.webtuning-cdn.ch/webautor-data/223/Goldene-Rundfahrt_Internet-1_0.jpg) makes it looks like theres some sort of bus down the back of the mountain from Pilatus to Alpnachstad. From Alpnachstad it looks like there are boats (or trains, I cant tell what the picture  (http://www.pilatus.ch/en/railway-cableways/timetable/)is supposed to be) even during the winter that go back to Luzern. But I'm not 100% clear on any of this.

3) I'm flying LX from JFK-ZRH-TLV, am I correct in assuming that my bags get checked through to TLV?

Can anyone shed light on any of this? TIA.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: User6669 on January 12, 2017, 12:32:10 PM
I'm flying LX from JFK-ZRH-TLV, am I correct in assuming that my bags get checked through to TLV?

Correct.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: dpk4588 on January 14, 2017, 08:34:29 PM
1) What to do about travel for one day. I looked into the 1 day travel pass and it looks like it needs to be used along with the Half-Fare travelcard. I'm not even sure which of the 4 Half-Fare travelcard I'd need to get.

2) I'm going in February so the Golden Ticket isnt an option as its only available May-October. Does it make sense to take the Panorama Gondola (http://www.pilatus.ch/en/railway-cableways/panorama-gondola/) and Aerial Cableway (http://www.pilatus.ch/en/railway-cableways/aerial-cableway/) to Pilatus? If I do that how do I get back to Luzern? The Golden Ticket Map (http://pilatus.webtuning-cdn.ch/webautor-data/223/Goldene-Rundfahrt_Internet-1_0.jpg) makes it looks like theres some sort of bus down the back of the mountain from Pilatus to Alpnachstad. From Alpnachstad it looks like there are boats (or trains, I cant tell what the picture  (http://www.pilatus.ch/en/railway-cableways/timetable/)is supposed to be) even during the winter that go back to Luzern. But I'm not 100% clear on any of this.

Can anyone shed light on any of this? TIA.
BUMP
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on January 15, 2017, 01:46:47 AM
2) I'm going in February so the Golden Ticket isnt an option as its only available May-October. Does it make sense to take the Panorama Gondola (http://www.pilatus.ch/en/railway-cableways/panorama-gondola/) and Aerial Cableway (http://www.pilatus.ch/en/railway-cableways/aerial-cableway/) to Pilatus? If I do that how do I get back to Luzern? The Golden Ticket Map (http://pilatus.webtuning-cdn.ch/webautor-data/223/Goldene-Rundfahrt_Internet-1_0.jpg) makes it looks like theres some sort of bus down the back of the mountain from Pilatus to Alpnachstad. From Alpnachstad it looks like there are boats (or trains, I cant tell what the picture  (http://www.pilatus.ch/en/railway-cableways/timetable/)is supposed to be) even during the winter that go back to Luzern. But I'm not 100% clear on any of this.
It is not a bus from Alpnachstad to Pilatus but a cogwheel train - the world's steepest.  This is definitely the most recommended method of transport to the pilatus.  Maybe do the rail one way and cableway the other.   And yes there are boats between Lucern and Alpnachstad, and the trip is gorgeous.
If you don't have time for the boat,  it's a short train ride.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: dpk4588 on January 15, 2017, 02:50:37 AM
It is not a bus from Alpnachstad to Pilatus but a cogwheel train - the world's steepest.  This is definitely the most recommended method of transport to the pilatus.  Maybe do the rail one way and cableway the other.   And yes there are boats between Lucern and Alpnachstad, and the trip is gorgeous.
If you don't have time for the boat,  it's a short train ride.
I was wondering where on the map the cogwheel was. The problem is that it doesn't run from November until May and I'll be there in February. It also looks like the boats don't operate during that time period either. But I guess if I can't come down that side of the mountain anyway since the cogwheel is closed, I don't need to worry about getting from Alpnachstad back to Luzern.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on January 15, 2017, 09:56:51 AM
I was wondering where on the map the cogwheel was. The problem is that it doesn't run from November until May and I'll be there in February. It also looks like the boats don't operate during that time period either. But I guess if I can't come down that side of the mountain anyway since the cogwheel is closed, I don't need to worry about getting from Alpnachstad back to Luzern.
hmmm, seems you're right about the cogwheel schedule.  But the cableway is certainly spectacular as well.   And for future reference, there's no need to worry about getting from Alpnachstad to Lucern.  It's a 20 minute train ride, IIRC.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: dpk4588 on January 18, 2017, 04:47:52 PM
What to do about travel for one day. I looked into the 1 day travel pass and it looks like it needs to be used along with the Half-Fare travelcard. I'm not even sure which of the 4 Half-Fare travelcards I'd need to get.
Can anyone shed light on this? TIA.
BUMP...Again...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on January 27, 2017, 03:13:18 AM
BUMP...Again...

Try this
http://seat61.com/Swiss-trains.htm#Swiss_travel_pass_&_Swiss_transfer_tickets
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on January 27, 2017, 12:32:39 PM
So I'm planning on going to Europe late February, stopping in Switzerland, I want to go to the alps maybe stay in a relatively cheap ski resort for a night go skiing etc. I know that's not Zurich so where is it?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on January 28, 2017, 01:56:17 PM
So I'm planning on going to Europe late February, stopping in Switzerland, I want to go to the alps maybe stay in a relatively cheap ski resort for a night go skiing etc. I know that's not Zurich so where is it?

The Swiss Alps stretch through the regions of Valais, Bernese Highlands, Central Switzerland and Graubünden.

If you are only going for one night, then the closest options I can suggest would be Flumserberg, Engelberg, Andermatt, or Klosters.

https://www.j2ski.com/ski_resorts/Switzerland/Flumserberg.html
https://www.j2ski.com/ski_resorts/Switzerland/Engelberg.html
https://www.j2ski.com/ski_resorts/Switzerland/Andermatt.html
https://www.j2ski.com/ski_resorts/Switzerland/Klosters.html


See also: http://www.sbb.ch/en/leisure-holidays/day-trips/snownrail.html
              http://wikitravel.org/en/Switzerland
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on January 28, 2017, 02:21:36 PM
So I'm planning on going to Europe late February, stopping in Switzerland, I want to go to the alps maybe stay in a relatively cheap ski resort for a night go skiing etc. I know that's not Zurich so where is it?

Also, cheap and Switzerland don't go together in the same sentence. If you want relatively cheap, you would have to fly to France or Austria instead.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on January 29, 2017, 05:41:40 AM
Also, cheap and Switzerland don't go together in the same sentence. If you want relatively cheap, you would have to fly to France or Austria instead.
How would this work coming from Venice? Train? To where?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on January 29, 2017, 05:54:19 AM
Also would you recommend taking air bnb
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on January 29, 2017, 08:58:53 AM
How would this work coming from Venice? Train? To where?

From Venice, here are the places I can recommend in Italy. You can also venture out to Austria, or Slovenia. (Slovenia would be cheaper ski and accommodation prices.)

See:
http://www.dolomitisuperski.com/en 
http://www.dolomitisuperski.com/en/ski-area/alta-badia

https://www.j2ski.com/ski_resorts/Italy/Dolomiti_Superski.html
https://www.j2ski.com/ski_resorts/Italy/Alta_Badia.html
https://www.j2ski.com/ski_resorts/Italy/Madonna_di_Campiglio.html
https://www.j2ski.com/ski_resorts/Italy/Selva_Gardena.html

Also see: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ski/articles/Best-Italian-ski-resorts/

From Venice, it's not worth schlepping to Switzerland, as it would be at least 8 hours by train to e.g. St. Moritz.  (although much shorter by car)
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on January 29, 2017, 10:25:03 AM
From Venice, here are the places I can recommend in Italy. You can also venture out to Austria, or Slovenia. (Slovenia would be cheaper ski and accommodation prices.)

See:
http://www.dolomitisuperski.com/en 
http://www.dolomitisuperski.com/en/ski-area/alta-badia

https://www.j2ski.com/ski_resorts/Italy/Dolomiti_Superski.html
https://www.j2ski.com/ski_resorts/Italy/Alta_Badia.html
https://www.j2ski.com/ski_resorts/Italy/Madonna_di_Campiglio.html
https://www.j2ski.com/ski_resorts/Italy/Selva_Gardena.html

Also see: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ski/articles/Best-Italian-ski-resorts/

From Venice, it's not worth schlepping to Switzerland, as it would be at least 8 hours by train to e.g. St. Moritz.  (although much shorter by car)
I wouldn't mind though taking a train that long through the night, where do I look for these trains?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on January 29, 2017, 10:27:30 AM
I wouldn't mind though taking a train that long through the night, where do I look for these trains?
But all the ski areas that were mentioned before in Switzerland seem far from St. Moritz, isn't there a close destination from Venice? Or closer swis alps ski to st Moritz?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on January 29, 2017, 11:56:14 AM
But all the ski areas that were mentioned before in Switzerland seem far from St. Moritz, isn't there a close destination from Venice? Or closer swis alps ski to st Moritz?
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My previous posts mentioned ski resorts in Italy, that would be convenient from Venice. St. Moritz is by the Italian border, so that would be one of the major ski resorts in Switzerland closest to Venice, although many Italian, Austrian, and Slovenian ski resorts would be much closer.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on January 29, 2017, 01:37:25 PM
But all the ski areas that were mentioned before in Switzerland seem far from St. Moritz, isn't there a close destination from Venice? Or closer swis alps ski to st Moritz?
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My previous posts mentioned ski resorts in Italy, that would be convenient from Venice. St. Moritz is by the Italian border, so that would be one of the major ski resorts in Switzerland closest to Venice, although many Italian, Austrian, and Slovenian ski resorts would be much closer.
And what are the ski resorts near st Moritz
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on January 29, 2017, 01:49:23 PM
I wouldn't mind though taking a train that long through the night, where do I look for these trains?

Venice to St. Moritz, you can get a 7.5 hour train with 3 connections - but if you are in Venice, why not just enjoy the Italian alps in Northern Italy?

This is a Swiss thread - Not Italy, but FYI - Italian trains you can look up at http://www.trenitalia.com  - and make sure to use the Italian names, not the English names. (Venezia not Venice)

For trains in Switzerland or going to Switzerland - look at http://fahrplan.sbb.ch/bin/query.exe/en

for Alta Badia there are buses from Venice airport- e.g http://www.cortinaexpress.it/index.php/linee-alta-badia/?lang=en
or get a train to Brunico and then a bus from there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on January 29, 2017, 01:53:41 PM
And what are the ski resorts near st Moritz

next to St. Moritz : Samedan, Celerina, Zuoz, La Punt-Chamues-ch, Pontresina, etc.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on January 30, 2017, 10:33:59 PM
Anyone ever been to crans Montana ski?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on January 31, 2017, 02:38:58 AM
Anyone ever been to crans Montana ski?

Chaim, are you really planning to go? You were posting asking for cheap before. Train from ZRH airport would cost $115 each way, accommodation is very expensive, and ski lift also costs lots $$$.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on February 02, 2017, 12:55:01 AM
Chaim, are you really planning to go? You were posting asking for cheap before. Train from ZRH airport would cost $115 each way, accommodation is very expensive, and ski lift also costs lots $$$.
Plans were changed to arrive in Geneva... So in your opinion where would I go for skiing is there anywhere close enough to the airport somewhat?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on February 02, 2017, 07:58:23 AM
Plans were changed to arrive in Geneva... So in your opinion where would I go for skiing is there anywhere close enough to the airport somewhat?

I would recommend Chamonix, France - only 60 miles away... there are a few shuttles available from Geneva, 
http://www.ouibus.com/line/geneve-aeroport-chamonix , http://www.chamexpress.com, http://www.mountaindropoffs.com ...

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiguille_du_Midi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bossons_Glacier
https://www.ricksteves.com/europe/france/chamonix

Also see: https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Chamonix
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: dpk4588 on February 02, 2017, 12:08:23 PM
Try this
http://seat61.com/Swiss-trains.htm#Swiss_travel_pass_&_Swiss_transfer_tickets
Sorry for the delayed response. I took a look and for me, it looks like the best option is paying full fare for everything :( but thanks for that direction.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on February 02, 2017, 03:36:54 PM
Is May a good time of the year to visit Zurich? Or is it more of a ski winter trip.
Is 2-3 days enough for general basics?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 02, 2017, 03:48:51 PM
Is May a good time of the year to visit Zurich? Or is it more of a ski winter trip.
Is 2-3 days enough for general basics?
For Zurich alone 2 days is more than enough.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on February 02, 2017, 03:59:38 PM
For Zurich alone 2 days is more than enough.
What else do i combine with such a trip? 7 day trip
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 02, 2017, 04:09:08 PM
What else do i combine with such a trip? 7 day trip
Depends what you're looking for... in Switzerland it's pretty much hiking and biking in the Alps
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on February 02, 2017, 05:30:53 PM
Sorry for the delayed response. I took a look and for me, it looks like the best option is paying full fare for everything :( but thanks for that direction.

Could be cheaper to rent a car. People in Switzerland either have a Half-Fare travelcard giving 50% off, or a GA card - which allows unlimited train travel for the entire year. But foreigners pay full price.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on February 02, 2017, 05:32:07 PM
Is May a good time of the year to visit Zurich? Or is it more of a ski winter trip.
Is 2-3 days enough for general basics?

Not much to see in Zürich, take the train to Luzern.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: dpk4588 on February 02, 2017, 05:35:01 PM
Could be cheaper to rent a car. People in Switzerland either have a Half-Fare travelcard giving 50% off, or a GA card - which allows unlimited train travel for the entire year. But foreigners pay full price.
The largest "travel" expense of my 15 hour trip is going go be the ride up and down Pilatus, which renting a car won't help.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on February 02, 2017, 05:36:32 PM
What else do i combine with such a trip? 7 day trip

http://www.myswitzerland.com/en-us/home.html
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on February 02, 2017, 05:55:47 PM
The largest "travel" expense of my 15 hour trip is going go be the ride up and down Pilatus, which renting a car won't help.

Can I suggest going to Engelberg instead and go up Mt. Titlis? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titlis
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on February 02, 2017, 08:50:05 PM
I would recommend Chamonix, France - only 60 miles away... there are a few shuttles available from Geneva, 
http://www.ouibus.com/line/geneve-aeroport-chamonix , http://www.chamexpress.com, http://www.mountaindropoffs.com ...

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiguille_du_Midi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bossons_Glacier
https://www.ricksteves.com/europe/france/chamonix

Also see: https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Chamonix
Thank you Chamonix looks nice, anyone ever there or had any experience with the shuttles?
Is there a border we go through?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on February 03, 2017, 06:04:15 AM
Thank you Chamonix looks nice, anyone ever there or had any experience with the shuttles?
Is there a border we go through?

I would prefer ouibus or mountaindropoffs as far as shuttle. There is no border control after
you have cleared immigration. see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area

The airport itself has a French side, (follow signs destination France), if you want to exit out
onto French territory.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on February 05, 2017, 01:17:51 AM
I would prefer ouibus or mountaindropoffs as far as shuttle. There is no border control after
you have cleared immigration. see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area

The airport itself has a French side, (follow signs destination France), if you want to exit out
onto French territory.
Where can I book skiing?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on February 05, 2017, 02:04:23 AM
Where can I book skiing?
Or do I not have to book in advance
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on February 05, 2017, 07:15:21 AM
Or do I not have to book in advance

Buy a pass when you arrive:
http://www.chamonix.net/english/lift-systems/lift-passes
http://www.chamonix.com/ski-passes,25,en.html

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on February 05, 2017, 10:57:21 AM
Buy a pass when you arrive:
http://www.chamonix.net/english/lift-systems/lift-passes
http://www.chamonix.com/ski-passes,25,en.html
Is it worth getting the unlimited pass? I'm not a pro at skiing but looks like I'm missing out on some other stuff
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on February 06, 2017, 07:46:29 AM
Is it worth getting the unlimited pass? I'm not a pro at skiing but looks like I'm missing out on some other stuff

Chaim, look at the links on my previous post? What's the price difference between the different passes? What are
the extra perks of the unlimited pass? Look at the description Benefits of using Mont Blanc Unlimited Pass, etc. and
decide for yourself.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: acercomp on February 14, 2017, 01:21:33 PM
Anyone have any experience with a 3-4 trip to Switzerland and then going to Israel?
I would like to leave from NYC and debating if i should book one way or roundtrip award tickets?
also any time of year less expensive.
thank you!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: eriqueiii on February 14, 2017, 05:17:14 PM
Does anyone have any recommendations where to stay and what to do.

I am landing in ZRH this coming Monday morning and leaving late Wednesday evening.  Just my wife and myself.

Thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on February 27, 2017, 02:03:11 AM
any recomondations for a hotel in the alps that can be booked with points?
Is there skiing during the end of april?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on February 27, 2017, 01:27:24 PM
any recomondations for a hotel in the alps that can be booked with points?
Is there skiing during the end of april?

Research the following links:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/snowandski/8375663/Ten-ski-resorts-with-good-April-snow.html
http://www.onthesnow.com/news/a/106337/eight-of-the-best-resorts-for-skiing-in-april

Make sure to take tons of sun block SPF 60+.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on February 27, 2017, 02:37:44 PM
Research the following links:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/snowandski/8375663/Ten-ski-resorts-with-good-April-snow.html
http://www.onthesnow.com/news/a/106337/eight-of-the-best-resorts-for-skiing-in-april

Make sure to take tons of sun block SPF 60+.

Thanks!
Have you ever been to or heard of the W verbier?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on February 27, 2017, 03:51:39 PM
Thanks!
Have you ever been to or heard of the W verbier?

Yes, Verbier is very well known. They haven't had snowfall there for almost 3 weeks, and for late April,
I would highly suggest you wait till last minute till you book your hotel accommodations.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on February 28, 2017, 01:28:19 PM
Yes, Verbier is very well known. They haven't had snowfall there for almost 3 weeks, and for late April,
I would highly suggest you wait till last minute till you book your hotel accommodations.

i just checked online and they received 11cm of snow over the last 24-72 hours plus more coming now,
are there any other activities snow or otherwise up there?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 01, 2017, 03:59:57 PM
i just checked online and they received 11cm of snow over the last 24-72 hours plus more coming now,
are there any other activities snow or otherwise up there?

Even if there is no snowfall, the resorts are able to generate powdered snow. The issue is that in April,
the conditions usually deteriorate, as it's too warm, and the snow turns to slush. I am just recommending
to wait till right before your arrival date, so you can research the conditions, so you choose the right place,
and have an enjoyable holiday. Also, maybe it's worth considering Val d'Isère, and Chamonix in France, as they are
much higher altitude, so better chances of having good snow.


https://www.skiplan.com/bulletin/bulletin.php?station=chamonix&region=alpes&pays=france&lang=en

https://www.skiplan.com/bulletin/bulletin.php?station=val-d-isere&region=alpes&pays=france&lang=en
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on March 01, 2017, 04:06:50 PM
Even if there is no snowfall, the resorts are able to generate powdered snow. The issue is that in April,
the conditions usually deteriorate, as it's too warm, and the snow turns to slush. I am just recommending
to wait till right before your arrival date, so you can research the conditions, so you choose the right place,
and have an enjoyable holiday. Also, maybe it's worth considering Val d'Isère, and Chamonix in France, as they are
much higher altitude, so better chances of having good snow.


https://www.skiplan.com/bulletin/bulletin.php?station=chamonix&region=alpes&pays=france&lang=en

https://www.skiplan.com/bulletin/bulletin.php?station=val-d-isere&region=alpes&pays=france&lang=en

Ah definitely makes sense.
I'm kinda tied to Switzerland, or somewhere within 3 hours . I would really like to use points for the hotel and seems for now that all the other ones in Switzerland are full with no availability. Any other ideas?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 01, 2017, 06:57:11 PM
Ah definitely makes sense.
I'm kinda tied to Switzerland, or somewhere within 3 hours . I would really like to use points for the hotel and seems for now that all the other ones in Switzerland are full with no availability. Any other ideas?

Any particular reason you are tied to Switzerland? From Geneva airport, the ski resorts in France are much closer, and transportation, accommodations, and ski lift passes will cost a fraction of the price. Also, each resort in Switzerland has many dozens of self-catering chalets,
it would be significantly cheaper than staying in a hotel.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 01, 2017, 07:06:52 PM
Ah definitely makes sense.
I'm kinda tied to Switzerland, or somewhere within 3 hours . I would really like to use points for the hotel and seems for now that all the other ones in Switzerland are full with no availability. Any other ideas?

Then again, the reason availability is scarce is that Switzerland has school holidays
http://www.edk.ch/dyn/15213.php . School children have around 13 weeks of holiday per school year. The dates are set by the cantons and communes. They vary from region to region, but for the most part this year Frühling/Spring break is 8th till the 23rd of April or 15th to the 30th of April.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on March 02, 2017, 01:39:03 AM
Any particular reason you are tied to Switzerland? From Geneva airport, the ski resorts in France are much closer, and transportation, accommodations, and ski lift passes will cost a fraction of the price. Also, each resort in Switzerland has many dozens of self-catering chalets,
it would be significantly cheaper than staying in a hotel.

I'm planning in staying in Zurich for shabbos by relatives. And probably will fly from zrh to tlv. As of now I have spg points (or hilton) and would rather not lay out of pocket if possible. Also I know we're going to ski resorts but my wide doesn't ski so I'd like to have a full variety of activities snow related and other wise.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Yosef_S on March 02, 2017, 08:13:34 AM
Hey all!

Gonna be stopping in ZRH for 14 hours en route TLV->SIN in a few weeks, and I'm trying to put together an itinerary for the layover. We're landing 8:40A, departing 10:45P, both in J on LX.

Just read through all 97 (!) pages of this thread, using that as a base point for my research...

Putting all that together, my thought is to land, rent a car, drive to Lucerne, take a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, drive to Engelsberg, cable car and rotair up to the Titlis summit, do the Cliff Walk, Glacier Cave and Ice Flyer, take Rotair down to Trustee, snow tubing at the park, cable car back down to Engelsberg, drive back to ZRH, dinner at Olive Garden, back to the airport and hopefully a shower and some tasting at the whiskey bar in the LX Senator lounge before the flight.

My questions are these:
- Is this schedule ambitious or impossible? Are we packing too much in? (We're two adults in our late 20's)
- Would we be better off skipping Titlis and doing Pilatus instead? I see the cog railway is closed this time of year, and it seems like these more to do on Titlis as well, so that seemed like a more worthwhile destination. How do the views compare between those two in the winter?
- Alternatively, if we are doing Titlis, does it make sense to skip Lucerne and Lake Lucerne and just go straight to/from Engelsberg? How badly should we want to Lake Lucerne?
- I know that Lake Lucerne can be down as part of the Gold/Silver Roundtrip, is there a recommended way to just do a scenic boat ride that returns to the drop off point?
- Based on how much we're packing in, a car seems like a good idea. Am I crazy? Cost wise it seems like it'll price out similarly for the two of us (found a car for about 75CHF). Is any of it difficult driving? Any ideas of what the tolls would be for this?
- The r/t tickets for Titlis are 92 CHF. There is a 50% discount for holders of a General Pass or Halb Tax. Is there any way for me to get ahold of one for one day? I only see a minimum of 3 days online, and the cost negates the discount. Is it possible to have someone with a pass purchase tickets for me? Or is there another discount option?

I hope the long post doesn't scare anyone off. I tried to avoid questions which were already answered.

TIA
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 02, 2017, 08:30:22 AM
I'm planning in staying in Zurich for shabbos by relatives. And probably will fly from zrh to tlv. As of now I have spg points (or hilton) and would rather not lay out of pocket if possible. Also I know we're going to ski resorts but my wide doesn't ski so I'd like to have a full variety of activities snow related and other wise.

If your wife doesn't ski, she would be dead bored. I would suggest Zermatt or maybe St. Moritz there, as there one could find activities for non-skiers.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 02, 2017, 08:53:36 AM
Your schedule is ambitious and doable. I would prefer Titlis, much much more to do and see there, and it's over 1,100 meters higher than Pilatus. Lucerne is on the way, and it's definitely worth stopping there and at least taking a stroll around the lake. Just I would skip Pilatus.
Just walking around the lake is extremely scenic. As far as the boat rides, look at http://www.lakelucerne.ch/en/timetable-fares/timetable/

Any car rented in Switzerland has a vignette, so tolls are not an issue. http://www.myswissalps.com/motorwayvignette
Driving is easy, and not difficult. Just pay extreme attention to the speed limits, as there are speed cameras everywhere, and fines can
be extremely expensive. And running a yellow/amber light is also penalized. Unfortunately, Halb Tax (CHF 185 for a year) doesn't make sense to purchase, unless you will be staying for longer. Not aware of any other discounts for foreigners. If your purchase a ticket with a halbtax
discount, then the ticket inspectors will ask to see your halbtax card, that would have your photo on it.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on March 02, 2017, 11:12:27 AM
If your wife doesn't ski, she would be dead bored. I would suggest Zermatt or maybe St. Moritz there, as there one could find activities for non-skiers.

I emailed the W and this is what they responded to with activities:
-   Snowshoeing and ski touring
-   Paragliding from les Ruinettes with landing at Le Chable
-   Skydiving from a helicopter over Verbier, departure from le Chable
-   Sledging on the 10km pist of Savoleyres/La Tzoumaz, no booking needed-subjected to snow condition
-   Ice skating at the Sport center
-   Verbier Cheese factory visit
-   Vineyard visit (in the valley, not n Verbier)
-   Caviar farm visit (in the valley)
 
What would zermatt or St moritz offer more or different?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 02, 2017, 01:42:07 PM
Do realize that some of those activities are expensive. E.g. paragliding would cost 160chf. 25 minute
helicopter ride will set you back 900chf. Skydiving costs 850chf.

Zermatt is more lively tourist village. Verbier is laid back, spread out, and quiet. Zermatt
is 3 hours by train from Zürich, Verbier would be an hour longer travel time.

As far as Zermatt, check out these links:

https://www.wanderlustchloe.com/zermatt-switzerland-things-to-do/
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g188045-i336-k10205564-Zermatt_in_winter_active_non_skiers-Switzerland.html
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g188098-Activities-Zermatt_Canton_of_Valais_Swiss_Alps.html


I emailed the W and this is what they responded to with activities:
-   Snowshoeing and ski touring
-   Paragliding from les Ruinettes with landing at Le Chable
-   Skydiving from a helicopter over Verbier, departure from le Chable
-   Sledging on the 10km pist of Savoleyres/La Tzoumaz, no booking needed-subjected to snow condition
-   Ice skating at the Sport center
-   Verbier Cheese factory visit
-   Vineyard visit (in the valley, not n Verbier)
-   Caviar farm visit (in the valley)
 
What would zermatt or St moritz offer more or different?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on March 02, 2017, 01:44:21 PM
Do realize that some of those activities are expensive. E.g. paragliding would cost 160chf. 25 minute
helicopter ride will set you back 900chf. Skydiving costs 850chf.

Zermatt is more lively tourist village. Verbier is laid back, spread out, and quiet. Zermatt
is 3 hours by train from Zürich, Verbier would be an hour longer travel time.

As far as Zermatt, check out these links:

https://www.wanderlustchloe.com/zermatt-switzerland-things-to-do/
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g188045-i336-k10205564-Zermatt_in_winter_active_non_skiers-Switzerland.html
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g188098-Activities-Zermatt_Canton_of_Valais_Swiss_Alps.html

Right for sure I wasn't on planning on doing helicopter rides or skydiving.

Thanks for your help and the links!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 02, 2017, 01:59:01 PM
Right for sure I wasn't on planning on doing helicopter rides or skydiving.

Thanks for your help and the links!

And how much interest is the cheese factory, vineyard, and caviar farm, when you can't even sample their products,
as it's cholov akum, Yayin Nesech, and caviar from sturgeon?

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on March 02, 2017, 02:00:02 PM
And how much interest is the cheese factory, vineyard, and caviar farm, when you can't even sample their products,
as it's cholov akum, Yayin Nesech, and caviar from sturgeon?

Agreed agreed and agreed although I would still consider a cheese factory as I don't know of any jewish ones locally.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ari9 on March 02, 2017, 10:29:18 PM
Does anyone have an information or experience for staying in Geneva over Shabbos?
- Place to buy Shabbos food when I land on Friday
- Shabbos compatibility for the President Wilson hotel or Hotel de la Paix
- Walkable shul to either of those hotels

Thanks!

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 03, 2017, 02:53:51 AM
Does anyone have an information or experience for staying in Geneva over Shabbos?
- Place to buy Shabbos food when I land on Friday
- Shabbos compatibility for the President Wilson hotel or Hotel de la Paix
- Walkable shul to either of those hotels

Thanks!

See: http://www.jewishgeneva.com/   Although the residents probably do their
shopping over the border in Gaillard, France as it would be a few times cheaper.

President Wilson would be a great place, but it would be 2km walk to the shuls.
Hotel de la Paix would be much closer - but for me shabbos compatibility would
be issues with the electric card key, access to the stairs, motion sensors, etc.

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bestwatchman on March 03, 2017, 07:26:12 AM
Does anyone have an information or experience for staying in Geneva over Shabbos?
- Place to buy Shabbos food when I land on Friday
- Shabbos compatibility for the President Wilson hotel or Hotel de la Paix
- Walkable shul to either of those hotels

Thanks!


chabad will set you up with families for the meals if that interests you or you can order from
Private Catering:
Mrs. Gisèle Levy
+41 79 265 44 79
President Wilson is about 40 min enjoyable walk on the lake from the shuls. La paix maybe 30 min.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 03, 2017, 08:16:45 AM
chabad will set you up with families for the meals if that interests you or you can order from
Private Catering:
Mrs. Gisèle Levy
+41 79 265 44 79
President Wilson is about 40 min enjoyable walk on the lake from the shuls. La paix maybe 30 min.

I would say 25 minutes walk from President Wilson, and 12 minutes from La paix to the Machzikei Hadas shul.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ari9 on March 03, 2017, 11:04:09 AM
See: http://www.jewishgeneva.com/   Although the residents probably do their
shopping over the border in Gaillard, France as it would be a few times cheaper.

President Wilson would be a great place, but it would be 2km walk to the shuls.
Hotel de la Paix would be much closer - but for me shabbos compatibility would
be issues with the electric card key, access to the stairs, motion sensors, etc.

Thanks!
I had looked at that website but couldnt figure out which store would be most appropriate for Shabbos type of food.
I'm looking in to Hotel de la Paix - they told me they have stairs that access the rooms. Do you know for sure that there are motion sensors or other Shabbos related issues?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: bestwatchman on March 04, 2017, 01:42:42 PM
I don't believe there are motion sensor issues at hotel de la paix
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ari9 on March 05, 2017, 01:00:47 AM
I don't believe there are motion sensor issues at hotel de la paix
thanks
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 05, 2017, 08:20:04 AM
Thanks!
I had looked at that website but couldnt figure out which store would be most appropriate for Shabbos type of food.
I'm looking in to Hotel de la Paix - they told me they have stairs that access the rooms. Do you know for sure that there are motion sensors or other Shabbos related issues?

I never stayed there, so I wouldn't know. I was just saying in general to research all the issues and not just distance from the shuls.
Relating another story, a few years ago, I was in a hotel in Calgary, and they confirmed with me that I would be able to use the stairs.
Coming back to the hotel after my 5-km walk on Friday night, the door to the stairs was locked.  I had to argue with the hotel staff for a long time, as they insisted that somebody will escort me on the lift. Finally, after half an hour, they let a staff member escort me up the stairs.
And then having to use electric tape on the door, so I can enter without a card, with all the trouble, I prefer the Airbnb route.

As far as food, there is a community restaurant Le Jardin, that can provide you with meals that can be delivered to your hotel.
The supermarkets are in Gailard, France:  e.g. Espace Casher. To get there, take Tram #12 to the last stop, Moillesulaz Thônex, cross the border and it's a few minute walk from there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: davidtron on March 14, 2017, 12:25:52 PM
After reading through the forums one thing is  not particularly clear. If i purchase a Swiss Travel Pass which includes unlimited travel , does that include a cable car ride up mt. pilatus for example? Or ill have to purchase another ticket on top of the Swiss Travel Passn in order to go up. As well  does it include the boat ride? Also i was wondering if this is a good itinerary -

Land in zrh 11:05 sunday morning , take the train to hotel, check in then head to lucerne and take the boat ride and walk around and maybe go up piltus if its nice weather, head back to zurich , for the night. Monday take train to Wengen and go on the gondola then go back to zurich for supper at shein un fein and go to sleep and leave early tuesday morning.

Does this sound ok or i'm doing something wrong or missing something.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 14, 2017, 02:41:15 PM
After reading through the forums one thing is  not particularly clear. If i purchase a Swiss Travel Pass which includes unlimited travel , does that include a cable car ride up mt. pilatus for example? Or ill have to purchase another ticket on top of the Swiss Travel Passn in order to go up. As well  does it include the boat ride? Also i was wondering if this is a good itinerary -

Land in zrh 11:05 sunday morning , take the train to hotel, check in then head to lucerne and take the boat ride and walk around and maybe go up piltus if its nice weather, head back to zurich , for the night. Monday take train to Wengen and go on the gondola then go back to zurich for supper at shein un fein and go to sleep and leave early tuesday morning.

Does this sound ok or i'm doing something wrong or missing something.

Thanks!

The cable cars such as Mt. Pilatus, you would only get a 50% reduction. The boats are part of the integrated Swiss public transport system, so they are free/included with the Swiss Travel Pass. My recommendation would be to head out straight to Luzern from the airport, a direct train would take a little over an hour. Leave your luggage either in the lockers or in the left baggage office (there closes at 7pm) in the Luzern train station, and explore. Instead of heading back to Zürich, why don't you stay in a hotel closer to Wengen for the night, so you don't have a long 3 hour train ride in the morning. You take a train from Luzern to Interlaken, and stay in a hotel overnight there. Have a productive Monday morning, you have 12 hours of daylight from 6:30am. Store your luggage in Interlaken Ost train station, and then go on to Wengen (45 minutes away), and explore the other alpine villages such as Gimmelwald, Grindelwald, Mürren Schilthorn, etc. Afterwards, travel back to Interlaken, collect your luggage, and continue on a train to Zürich.

see https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Interlaken
http://wikitravel.org/en/Interlaken
http://wikitravel.org/en/Gimmelwald
http://wikitravel.org/en/Grindelwald
http://wikitravel.org/en/Murren
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: davidtron on March 14, 2017, 03:15:28 PM
On this website
https://www.sbb.ch/en/leisure-holidays/holidays--short-breaks-in-switzerland/swisstravelsystem/swiss-travel-pass.html

it says included in the swiss travel pass "Including mountain excursions to: Pilatus, Rigi and Schynige Platte" . is there an additional cost that is not stated on the website?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 14, 2017, 03:31:50 PM
On this website
https://www.sbb.ch/en/leisure-holidays/holidays--short-breaks-in-switzerland/swisstravelsystem/swiss-travel-pass.html

it says included in the swiss travel pass "Including mountain excursions to: Pilatus, Rigi and Schynige Platte" . is there an additional cost that is not stated on the website?

Wow, at first, I thought this was a mistake but I now confirmed that Pilatus was added as of this Jan 1st, 2017 to be free with the Swiss Travel Pass. 
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: davidtron on March 15, 2017, 06:53:30 PM
Are you able to buy the Swiss Travel Pass online and print at home or use on your phone? When i attempt to purchase it says mail only
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 16, 2017, 12:16:30 AM
Are you able to buy the Swiss Travel Pass online and print at home or use on your phone? When i attempt to purchase it says mail only

https://shop.swissrailways.com/swisspass.html?affiliateid=23&language=en&currency=CHF

There is an option to collect it at the airport.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mn524 on March 16, 2017, 02:46:01 AM
If one drinks Chulov Stam, is one allowed to drink the milk throughout Switzerland?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 16, 2017, 05:55:50 AM
If one drinks Chulov Stam, is one allowed to drink the milk throughout Switzerland?

Yes, but note there are 1.59 million cows in Switzerland, and the kosher stores in Zürich carry long-life
milk (UHT) that doesn't need to be refrigerated till opened.

The following links, you can get the kosher list including cholov stam products.

www.irgz.ch/downloads/koscherliste_aktuell.pdf  -- The Swiss youghurts are very nice.

Also, not related, but wanted to add a friend of mine was in a Swiss cheese factory (non-kosher), and the government inspectors shut down the entire factory because there was a small leak in the bathroom.

Also, note, in Switzerland the milk mostly commons from dozens of small farms, so the cholov yisrael mashgichim have to make multiple rounds to a few farms each morning.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mn524 on March 16, 2017, 07:29:03 AM
Yes, but note there are 1.59 million cows in Switzerland, and the kosher stores in Zürich carry long-life
milk (UHT) that doesn't need to be refrigerated till opened.

The following links, you can get the kosher list including cholov stam products.

www.irgz.ch/downloads/koscherliste_aktuell.pdf  -- The Swiss youghurts are very nice.

Also, not related, but wanted to add a friend of mine was in a Swiss cheese factory (non-kosher), and the government inspectors shut down the entire factory because there was a small leak in the bathroom.

Also, note, in Switzerland the milk mostly commons from dozens of small farms, so the cholov yisrael mashgichim have to make multiple rounds to a few farms each morning.

I will be going straight to davos, and won't be in zurich at all. Can i buy that milk or any other types there?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on March 17, 2017, 10:04:37 AM
I will be going straight to davos, and won't be in zurich at all. Can i buy that milk or any other types there?

Yes, but only in the Summer months in the Spar supermarket...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on March 24, 2017, 04:50:36 PM
Which part of Switzerland would be most accommodating to see the alps with a 1 year old in tow?
I'll have a week in total.
Summer months
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: joetrader on May 07, 2017, 04:47:45 AM
Which part of Switzerland would be most accommodating to see the alps with a 1 year old in tow?
I'll have a week in total.
Summer months
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mr. on May 11, 2017, 04:37:25 AM
I will be in Switzerland for 9 days in July i was thinking of being in  St moritz area (Maloja) for 7 day and wanted to see if anyone have an idea of how to spend the last 2 days eaither staying all in St moritz or seeing something else and the heading  back to Zurich airport. I was planning on buying the swiss pass so i guess it doesnt realy make a difference where i  go besides for the fact that i dont want to miss a minyan.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 11, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
I find Maloja pretty boring. Although the hotel there is very nice, it seems to attract lots of "rebbish" type folk who stay there, and spend their time taking strolls around the surrounding lake. In the Summer months, the alps turn into "shtetlach", and there are minyanim everywhere, e.g. Arosa, Davos, Haute Nendaz, Klosters, Saas Almagel, Saas Fee, Saas Grund, Riederalp & Adelboden, Wengen, Zermatt, and numerous villages around St. Moritz, e.g. Celerina, Samedan. No reason to spend a week in one place.

I will be in Switzerland for 9 days in July i was thinking of being in  St moritz area (Maloja) for 7 day and wanted to see if anyone have an idea of how to spend the last 2 days eaither staying all in St moritz or seeing something else and the heading  back to Zurich airport. I was planning on buying the swiss pass so i guess it doesnt realy make a difference where i  go besides for the fact that i dont want to miss a minyan.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mr. on May 11, 2017, 04:02:45 PM
Thanks i know what you are saying but i was thinking about maloja more as a center to be able to see the Engadin area as apossed to walk around with the Rebbe's
Have you been to other nice places you can recomend?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 11, 2017, 04:50:08 PM
Thanks i know what you are saying but i was thinking about maloja more as a center to be able to see the Engadin area as apossed to walk around with the Rebbe's
Have you been to other nice places you can recomend?

I just like the other side of the alps, e.g. Zermatt, Saas Fee. In the Engadin area, e.g. you can go to Heidi Hutte, Hahnensee, Bernina Pass, Lake Como, Guarda, Morteratsch Glacier, etc. Also, in the Summer months, there is a one-hour orchestra performance every morning at 10:30am at the concert hall of Bader AG, at the Heilbadzentrum in St. Moritz Bad. It's free.
There is also a bakery there, (pas yisroel in the Summer) Bäckerei-Konditorei Bad, Via dal Bagn 4.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: flyingace on May 11, 2017, 05:01:18 PM
Is there a source that lists the minyanim in different areas? Do the hotels allow outsiders to join the davening?  I see many rentals on VRBO - any tips on how to find out their proximity to minyanim?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 11, 2017, 06:13:43 PM
Is there a source that lists the minyanim in different areas? Do the hotels allow outsiders to join the davening?  I see many rentals on VRBO - any tips on how to find out their proximity to minyanim?

There is a list/source, the Jewish community in Switzerland has a weekly magazine that lists all the minyanim. Would need to contact somebody who lives there for the published list. I don't see why a hotel wouldn't allow an outsider, but do realize the majority of those minyanim are not in a hotel, but usually in the village's community center, aka "Gemeindehaus", and sometimes in somebody's house. It's mostly Yidden from England & Belgium and Switzerland, and they don't stay in hotels, they rent chalets / self-cater for an entire month.

For Switzerland, there are tons of websites for chalet rentals in the alps, but most of them are in French or German and dedicated for the particular village.

but you can also look here: http://chalet.myswitzerland.com or e.g. website for village for Saas Fee http://www.saas-fee.ch/en/ferienwohnung/
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: flyingace on May 11, 2017, 06:23:14 PM
Thanks for the quick and informative reply.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mr. on May 12, 2017, 05:56:10 AM
An important thing to relize is that all the Europeans that rent apartments etc. are generly in August Av and not July same is with alot of the Kosher products.
I am going in July therfore i am much more dependant on A kosher hotel.
I actualy realy wanted to go to Wengen this year but as i am sure you heard there will be no kosher program this year in Wengen.
Do you think i can see both sides of the alps in 8-9 day and enjoy or better of doing one side this year and then next year the other side of the alps?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 12, 2017, 09:13:40 AM
Well, the school year in Switzerland starts on August 14th, so I am sure many are starting their holidays earlier in July, and Rosh Chodesh
Av is on July 24th, but there is definitely fewer minyanim in earlier July. If you can't self-cater, then you are dependent on staying in a hotel, but that's extremely expensive. Only St. Moritz and Davos one can get kosher products in a specific shop in the Summer months, but otherwise, most people bring along their food from the stores in Zurich, Basel or Saint-Louis (French side).
I also heard that the hotel in Wengen is not opening, but very likely there should be a minyan there or in Grindelwald, but that would be in August.

An important thing to relize is that all the Europeans that rent apartments etc. are generly in August Av and not July same is with alot of the Kosher products.
I am going in July therfore i am much more dependant on A kosher hotel.
I actualy realy wanted to go to Wengen this year but as i am sure you heard there will be no kosher program this year in Wengen.
Do you think i can see both sides of the alps in 8-9 day and enjoy or better of doing one side this year and then next year the other side of the alps?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: basketnarb on May 12, 2017, 01:35:40 PM
On jewisheurope.org there is an eatery called Cholowiss  that it says is under the same superviosion as Fine & Schein and Hamasbia but it is not listed on the Chabad website.  Anyone know anything about this place?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 13, 2017, 01:14:01 PM
On jewisheurope.org there is an eatery called Cholowiss  that it says is under the same superviosion as Fine & Schein and Hamasbia but it is not listed on the Chabad website.  Anyone know anything about this place?

That's not an eatery, just where one can buy their cholov yisrael milk and yogurts, and other dairy products directly. Note their limited store hours.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: joetrader on May 14, 2017, 12:28:00 AM
What websites are recommended to find apartments for summer around the alps
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 14, 2017, 01:17:44 AM
What websites are recommended to find apartments for summer around the alps

You can try http://www.en.e-domizil.ch     http://chalet.myswitzerland.com   

There should be also websites for each village detailing the chalets available, e.g.

St. Moritz - https://www.stmoritz.ch/st-moritz/ferienwohnungen/
Saas Fee - http://www.saas-fee.ch/de/suchen-buchen/

Also, search on google using the name of the village and ferienwohnung (it means holiday flat in German)

Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 14, 2017, 10:02:20 AM
I forgot to mention in my previous post, when renting a holiday flat, majority of rentals are only available to rent by the full week, being strictly Saturday to Saturday. Some places might allow for an early Sunday check-out...
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: basketnarb on May 16, 2017, 10:19:22 AM
Is Ma'adan Bakery under a reliable hashgacha?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 16, 2017, 12:52:03 PM
Is Ma'adan Bakery under a reliable hashgacha?

google search on Ma'adan shows up with this: https://simchaspot.com/blog/2017/04/18/maadan-bakery-tonight-in-zurich/
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Berenstein Bear on May 16, 2017, 03:18:43 PM
I am looking to spend a week in Saas Fee in Aug. I've read through this thread and just have some questions for someone who was already there TIA.
Minyanim?
Does anyone have an apt. that they were happy with? Couple with baby
What's the hostility like there?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 16, 2017, 04:55:48 PM
I am looking to spend a week in Saas Fee in Aug. I've read through this thread and just have some questions for someone who was already there TIA.
Minyanim?
Does anyone have an apt. that they were happy with? Couple with baby
What's the hostility like there?

I have been to Saas Fee a few times. There's usually a minyan there, as well as in Saas Grund in August. As far as having an apt., people that
go there every year, stay in different places, as availability is not the same year to year. I vaguely recall one year there was a hasidishe admor from Antwerpn with his hasidim.

Hostility? Well none, unless you are not keeping the Swiss etiquette such as orderliness, and quietness. Don't jaywalk or cross against red light, don't use a washing machine on Sunday if you are in an apartment building. Read out about the Swiss trash and recycling rules, e.g. cans and glass bottles are deposited at neighborhood dumps sorted by color. From 10pm to 7am are quiet hours, the Swiss can get quite upset if they hear noise, e.g. loud zemiros on Friday night, - your neighbors will call the police who might issue a fine. Don't litter, and remember that you are not in New York. I saw a Chosid come to a supermarket, and the lady cashier hands him change, and he scream leig es arop.

Only hostility I remember was one time in St. Moritz by the lake, I overheard a lady telling to her friends in German, that the Jews should go vacation in Tel Aviv instead.

Also see this Saas Fee Guide: https://www.yumpu.com/en/embed/view/jIqYSFyaMT3uPWKe
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mr. on May 17, 2017, 03:50:16 AM
There is a kosher hotel with minyanim and resterant 10 min away in Saas Almagell
http://www.bayisbagova.com/
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mr. on May 17, 2017, 03:53:32 AM
I booked already in Maloja is there something incrdible you recomend in that area that wotrh going for the last day or two ortry in another time?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 17, 2017, 05:07:06 AM
There is a kosher hotel with minyanim and resterant 10 min away in Saas Almagell
http://www.bayisbagova.com/
Yes, I highly recommend staying there!
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 17, 2017, 08:30:24 AM
I booked already in Maloja is there something incrdible you recomend in that area that wotrh going for the last day or two ortry in another time?

Well it is worth going there, e.g. http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/mittelallalin-by-metro-alpin-into-the-mountain-world.html
http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/hohensaas-eighteen-4000-meter-peaks-before-your-eyes.html

And from Saas Fee it's 2 hours to Zermatt: see http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/the-matterhorn-in-your-sights.html
http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/historic-gornergrat-bahn-the-matterhorn-railway.html

There is a scenic train from St. Moritz to Zermatt called the Glacier Express  http://www.glacierexpress.ch/en
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mr. on May 17, 2017, 08:44:10 AM
Thanks for the wonderful advice thats actually what i was thinking, about taking the glacier express down to the Zermatt area.
I am just a bit hesitant bec it takes like 7 hrs and its a bit too long for me.
Have you ever done it?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 17, 2017, 09:10:05 AM
Thanks for the wonderful advice thats actually what i was thinking, about taking the glacier express down to the Zermatt area.
I am just a bit hesitant bec it takes like 7 hrs and its a bit too long for me.
Have you ever done it?

No, I rarely take trains, I drive, but anyways read this: https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g188077-d198989-r91527626-Glacier_Express-Swiss_Alps.html
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Berenstein Bear on May 21, 2017, 03:40:18 PM
I'm being a Saas-Fee for a week in Aug. Looking to relax, scenery, hike etc.- couple with a 4 month baby. We would like to limit our long trips. What are "musts" when visiting Switzerland? It's not something we can count on doing again, yet we don't want to run around like crazy. Thank you.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 21, 2017, 06:04:34 PM
I'm being a Saas-Fee for a week in Aug. Looking to relax, scenery, hike etc.- couple with a 4 month baby. We would like to limit our long trips. What are "musts" when visiting Switzerland? It's not something we can count on doing again, yet we don't want to run around like crazy. Thank you.

http://www.saas-fee.ch/en/familienausfluege/

http://www.fodors.com/community/europe/saas-fee-hiking-with-baby.cfm
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mr. on May 22, 2017, 05:58:27 AM
I have a similar question about the St Moritz area i will be there for a week in Julyand really could use some advise with making an itinerary there is so much to do there and i would greatly appreciate anyone who can give advice from there personal experience of things and hikes etc. they feel is not to be missed.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 22, 2017, 08:34:43 AM
I have a similar question about the St Moritz area i will be there for a week in Julyand really could use some advise with making an itinerary there is so much to do there and i would greatly appreciate anyone who can give advice from there personal experience of things and hikes etc. they feel is not to be missed.

Why don't you post or research the threads at the following URLS: Use the search function

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowForum-g188045-i336-Switzerland.html

https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/forums/europe-western-europe/switzerland

https://www.ricksteves.com/europe/switzerland/itinerary

https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/switzerland

http://www.myswissalps.com/forum
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: mr. on May 22, 2017, 10:51:21 AM
Thanks I actually did a bit of that but its so hard to really decide what to do, i find it easier when some one can share his experience or knowledge like there is in Dans Forums on other destination would be allot more beneficial and reliable.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Berenstein Bear on May 22, 2017, 03:09:03 PM
I'm being a Saas-Fee for a week in Aug. Looking to relax, scenery, hike etc.- couple with a 4 month baby. We would like to limit our long trips. What are "musts" when visiting Switzerland? It's not something we can count on doing again, yet we don't want to run around like crazy. Thank you.
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I'd like to know what are the "must see" places that I'd have to travel to from Saas Fee. I'm looking to do one or two big trips. Are Pilatus, Titlis, Lake Lucerne, Top of Europe "musts" or is Saas Fee enough? Or are there places within an hour that we should go to? I've done a ton of research on tripadvisor, reading through TR's, reading this thread, but a clear answer will still be appreciated.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 22, 2017, 04:01:49 PM
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I'd like to know what are the "must see" places that I'd have to travel to from Saas Fee. I'm looking to do one or two big trips. Are Pilatus, Titlis, Lake Lucerne, Top of Europe "musts" or is Saas Fee enough? Or are there places within an hour that we should go to? I've done a ton of research on tripadvisor, reading through TR's, reading this thread, but a clear answer will still be appreciated.

Pilatus and Titlis are more popular for those that are doing day stopovers in Zürich - but if you are staying in Saas Fee, take advantage of all that you can see there, and take a day trip to Zermatt as well. The Top of Europe  / Jungfraujoch - if you have the money to splurge $200 for a round trip ticket - go for it, and make sure to sit on the right side when going up. - However, do go early in the morning to avoid the crowds, and if it's a cloudy day, you will be quite disappointed. Lake Lucerne is quite scenic, so it's definitely worth a visit.   Saas Fee you have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittelallalin, which is 3,456 m, and if you are adventurous you can climb up to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allalinhorn, which is 4,027 m.

see: http://www.summitpost.org/allalinhorn-normal-route/977793     http://saasfeeguides.squarespace.com/allalinhorn-4027m
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on May 23, 2017, 01:58:32 PM
Where's the recommended vacation area? Arosa, Davos, Saas Fee, St. Moritz....?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: yelped on May 23, 2017, 05:52:11 PM
Where's the recommended vacation area? Arosa, Davos, Saas Fee, St. Moritz....?
All of the above :) Read at least the last few pages. There's some very helpful info there.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on May 23, 2017, 07:15:41 PM
Posting for a friend:

3 Chassidishe Bucherim are flying into Zurich for a wedding after Shavous and arriving at 05:00 PM. They will be returning the following day at 07:40 P.M. to a Non Schengen EU Country.
I know that it is a short turn but I am wondering if you all have any appropriate suggestions for Day 2 in/around Zurich?
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: Saulius on May 24, 2017, 02:06:26 AM
Posting for a friend:

3 Chassidishe Bucherim are flying into Zurich for a wedding after Shavous and arriving at 05:00 PM. They will be returning the following day at 07:40 P.M. to a Non Schengen EU Country.
I know that it is a short turn but I am wondering if you all have any appropriate suggestions for Day 2 in/around Zurich?

Would highly recommend that they take the train to Luzern on Day 2. There are two trains each hour, and they could leave their luggage in the Luzern train station, and then they could go directly to the airport from there, about an hour ride. Luzern is much more scenic.
Title: Re: Switzerland Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on May 24, 2017, 02:23:59 AM
Would highly recommend that they take the train to Luzern on Day 2. There are two trains each hour, and they could leave their luggage in the Luzern train station, and then they could go directly to the airport from there, about an hour ride. Luzern is much more scenic.