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Title: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on November 18, 2018, 04:11:23 PM
A few people have suggested this so here goes....Tittle says it all. A few ground rules:

1) No needless bashing of buying groups here, if you had a bad experience post the facts so others know.

2) No self promotion.

3) Obviously no personal referrals may be posted.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on November 18, 2018, 04:19:59 PM
lets see how long this thread lasts before getting deleted...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on November 18, 2018, 05:47:33 PM
Why should it get deleted?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on November 18, 2018, 06:21:54 PM
Itís a conspiracy. Just want to say that buying groups can be a real source of ms trick is to take it slow until you have a hang of things and understand when your chances are better in regards to cancellations. If you order every item every time with no cheshbon you will be quickly dissuaded to quit because of cancellations
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on November 18, 2018, 06:35:05 PM
Itís a conspiracy. Just want to say that buying groups can be a real source of ms trick is to take it slow until you have a hang of things and understand when your chances are better in regards to cancellations. If you order every item every time with no cheshbon you will be quickly dissuaded to quit because of cancellations
Being dissuaded to quit would mean you want to keep going...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on November 18, 2018, 07:55:50 PM
Being dissuaded to quit would mean you want to keep going...
Oops. Lol obviously meant the opposite
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on November 19, 2018, 12:46:34 AM
Actually, you can play the system right and make many thousands of dollars annually, with some making 6 (7?) figures by properly gaming the system.

That said, for the majority of us itís just MS for bonus spending and the like, plus the good commission deals. Therefore, heed that advice. Figure out which sellers on eBay donít cancel guest accounts, get the Best Buy ordering system down, and then see how to double dip with Best Buy GC deals and such. Trust me, those cancellation emails can make you give up faster than @mmgfarb can post a snarky reply to this post.  :)

Also, Amazon deals are complete gravy.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on November 19, 2018, 12:48:04 AM
Actually, you can play the system right and make many thousands of dollars annually, with some making 6 (7?) figures by properly gaming the system.

That said, for the majority of us itís just MS for bonus spending and the like, plus the good commission deals. Therefore, heed that advice. Figure out which sellers on eBay donít cancel guest accounts, get the Best Buy ordering system down, and then see how to double dip with Best Buy GC deals and such. Trust me, those cancellation emails can make you give up faster than @mmgfarb can post a snarky reply to this post.  :)

Also, Amazon deals are complete gravy.
Excuse me, do I know you?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on November 19, 2018, 12:49:04 AM
Ok, not that fast. But fast.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on November 19, 2018, 12:49:32 AM
Excuse me, do I know you?

Not yet
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on November 19, 2018, 12:50:19 AM
Ok, not that fast. But fast.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on November 19, 2018, 01:02:41 AM
Anyone get target to DE lately?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on November 19, 2018, 02:39:32 AM
Not yet
DO?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on November 19, 2018, 08:00:53 AM
How is target regarding cancelling delivery orders when exceeding the max per customer? Never really pushed them much...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on November 19, 2018, 08:14:50 AM
How is target regarding cancelling delivery orders when exceeding the max per customer? Never really pushed them much...
They'll let it go for a while (meaning letting some orders thru and cancelling others) and then randomly completely blacklist your address afaik there's no way back in..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on November 19, 2018, 09:31:05 AM
They'll let it go for a while (meaning letting some orders thru and cancelling others) and then randomly completely blacklist your address afaik there's no way back in..
How soon after order being placed would they cancel?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on November 19, 2018, 09:38:21 AM
How soon after order being placed would they cancel?
I just had a cancel 20 hrs after order on spidermans. And I'm in that everything is cancelled category - can't even get personal items through like coffee and luna bars. Decided to try because it had been a few months.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on November 19, 2018, 09:54:48 AM
I just had a cancel 20 hrs after order on spidermans. And I'm in that everything is cancelled category - can't even get personal items through like coffee and luna bars. Decided to try because it had been a few months.
Change your address?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: greatluck on November 19, 2018, 10:57:47 AM
Adding apartment numbers or instructions like right side left side front door back door side door work for me
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on November 19, 2018, 11:04:07 AM
I just had a cancel 20 hrs after order on spidermans. And I'm in that everything is cancelled category - can't even get personal items through like coffee and luna bars. Decided to try because it had been a few months.
Ok so only good once it ships?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on November 19, 2018, 11:35:16 AM
How do you guys get tax off when shipping target to your house? Dont they have to be sent to DE?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: cwh82 on November 19, 2018, 11:49:02 AM
My order still says "Preparing" with a note that order has been processed and cannot be pulled from shipping.  Hopefully, it goes through.  Placed the order last night 6pm ET.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mordyk on November 19, 2018, 12:25:36 PM
walmart cancels instantly  even the smallest order
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Abet rich on November 19, 2018, 12:53:31 PM
How do you guys get tax off when shipping target to your house? Dont they have to be sent to DE?
Pay tax and with a redcard 5% off makes it worth it
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on November 19, 2018, 01:30:31 PM
Pay tax and with a redcard 5% off makes it worth it
then you lose your profit they usually pay cost on target
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on November 19, 2018, 02:01:50 PM
then you lose your profit they usually pay cost on target
For PS4 now it's $15 for $200 order.
Tax +- $16
Red card saving $10
You come out $9 ahead a piece.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on November 19, 2018, 02:03:05 PM
Feel like this thread should be in General Discussion.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on November 19, 2018, 02:05:55 PM
For PS4 now it's $15 for $200 order.
Tax +- $16
Red card saving $10
You come out $9 ahead a piece.
This is one example they dont pay $15 on everything
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on November 19, 2018, 02:09:10 PM
This is one example they dont pay $15 on everything
And you don't have to buy everything from Target. You can also get more than 5% from discounted GC vs redcard.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on November 19, 2018, 02:16:50 PM
And you don't have to buy everything from Target. You can also get more than 5% from discounted GC vs redcard.
My question was regarding buying things from target. It seems a bunch of you had it shipped to your house and I was wondering how the taxes get off-setted

Obviously if they are paying $15 commission I get it but that is not usually the case
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on November 19, 2018, 02:35:37 PM
My question was regarding buying things from target. It seems a bunch of you had it shipped to your house and I was wondering how the taxes get off-setted

Obviously if they are paying $15 commission I get it but that is not usually the case
Right for sure, need to pick and choose deals. I've actually never done Target to my house.. yet
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ah giten on November 19, 2018, 02:45:11 PM
Pay tax and with a redcard 5% off makes it worth it
do you have the credit or debit?
is the debit a pull?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on November 19, 2018, 02:53:03 PM
Pay tax and with a redcard 5% off makes it worth it
What points does the red card give you? I prefer to do my spending on a card with better points options.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on November 19, 2018, 03:16:32 PM
What points does the red card give you? I prefer to do my spending on a card with better points options.
no points just a 5% discount
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on November 19, 2018, 03:18:38 PM
no points just a 5% discount
So what's the point of using it for the buying groups?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on November 19, 2018, 03:56:44 PM
So what's the point of using it for the buying groups?
Well if you do volume and they pay you at cost you make 5% and sometimes there are commissions as well
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yossig on November 19, 2018, 06:29:42 PM
Any risk shipping BB to DE?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on November 19, 2018, 06:33:22 PM
Any risk shipping BB to DE?
risk of what?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on November 19, 2018, 06:37:29 PM
Any risk shipping BB to DE?
Not any worse than shipping many orders to your house... you will get blacklisted regardless.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yossig on November 19, 2018, 06:43:05 PM
Not any worse than shipping many orders to your house... you will get blacklisted regardless.
So Iím supposed to pay taxes and loose money on them shipping to my house?
Or is there any other way around?

BTW what about Walmart, Amazon, Office Depot, ETC?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on November 19, 2018, 06:44:47 PM
So Iím supposed to pay taxes and loose money on them shipping to my house?
Or is there any other way around?

BTW what about Walmart, Amazon, Office Depot, ETC?

The buying groups give a tax exempt number for certain states, NY, NJ CA, FL
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: pointer on November 20, 2018, 01:16:21 AM
How do you guys get tax off when shipping target to your house? Dont they have to be sent to DE?
Target charges sales tax to DE as well
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: joey89 on November 20, 2018, 01:27:29 AM
Several years ago I was buying electronics which I would then sell myself on Amazon.
Wal-Mart was easy pickings back then (in store and online) I had close to a $100,000 of iPad minis that I ordered for store pickup at fed-ex locations in DE. After they had already shipped (and several already delivered to the fed-ex location) Wal-Mart cancelled all the orders and pulled them back. I called corporate they said something about security etc. after that I couldnít order even toothpaste from them, was completely blacklisted, even using different addresses, cc numbers etc. I have moved states and am still scared to try placing an order donít want them to blacklist my wife also.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: joey89 on November 20, 2018, 01:32:53 AM
They'll let it go for a while (meaning letting some orders thru and cancelling others) and then randomly completely blacklist your address afaik there's no way back in..
I was actually approached by security in a target in DE, who made me leave the store on a order pickup, and permanently blacklisted from all purchases. However till that point I had purchased a tremendous amount of merchandise without being blacklisted. (I had already picked up 100+ iPod touches from 2 other locations)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on November 20, 2018, 03:12:21 AM
Target charges sales tax to DE as well
I didn't get charged taxes to DE.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on November 20, 2018, 03:14:34 AM
I was actually approached by security in a target in DE, who made me leave the store on a order pickup, and permanently blacklisted from all purchases. However till that point I had purchased a tremendous amount of merchandise without being blacklisted. (I had already picked up 100+ iPod touches from 2 other locations)
In Target Howell I was actually approached by a sales rep on my way out the store after purchasing alot of product and told to come back later when she's behind the counter to get more.
They get a commission on electronics they sell apparently.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on November 20, 2018, 09:42:04 AM
In Target Howell I was actually approached by a sales rep on my way out the store after purchasing alot of product and told to come back later when she's behind the counter to get more.
They get a commission on electronics they sell apparently.

yea if you find the right manager and play by their rules so they can avoid getting "caught" you can do some nice volume.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on November 20, 2018, 10:11:59 AM
Any risk shipping BB to DE?
where you able to? AFAIK those never get shipped, theyre always cancelled
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on November 20, 2018, 02:41:53 PM
Any risk shipping Amazon straight to DE?
If they decide they don't like it will they issue you a warning or just close your account?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on November 20, 2018, 02:57:59 PM
Any risk shipping Amazon straight to DE?
If they decide they don't like it will they issue you a warning or just close your account?
No reports of anyone getting closed specifically for shipping to DE buying groups afaik
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bb1836 on November 20, 2018, 04:10:06 PM
where you able to? AFAIK those never get shipped, theyre always cancelled
IME only apple orders get cancelled
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on November 20, 2018, 06:36:20 PM
Perhaps there can be a wiki with the different buying groups link without referals?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bb1836 on November 20, 2018, 07:01:28 PM
Perhaps there can be a wiki with the different buying groups link without referals?
go for it
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yossig on November 20, 2018, 08:30:13 PM
Does using a tax exempt on BB make me ineligible to receive cash back from Portals like Ebates?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bb1836 on November 20, 2018, 08:42:45 PM
Does using a tax exempt on BB make me ineligible to receive cash back from Portals like Ebates?
no but it does make you ineligible to receive BB rewards
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yossig on November 20, 2018, 08:44:48 PM
no but it does make you ineligible to receive BB rewards
get it. Thanks!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ib3 on November 20, 2018, 10:20:49 PM
no but it does make you ineligible to receive BB rewards
If I am not mistaking, at bb you get points when you buy gift cards - not when redeaming them.  So you can buy gift cards on a non tax exempt account.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on November 20, 2018, 10:42:49 PM


If I am not mistaking, at bb you get points when you buy gift cards - not when redeaming them.  So you can buy gift cards on a non tax exempt account.

True, be "careful" there's reports of shutdowns if buying GC on an account then using it on the same account for tax exempt
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on November 20, 2018, 11:00:45 PM
go for it

Started. Feel free to edit.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: joey89 on November 20, 2018, 11:41:55 PM
no but it does make you ineligible to receive BB rewards
Have not done this in years, however I would buy without the tax exempt and then email BB with the order number and tax exempt number and they would refund the taxes and I would earn points.
Be aware they might insist on the tax exempt name matching the name on the order
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bb1836 on November 21, 2018, 08:12:11 AM
Started. Feel free to edit.
Gonna add any other info besides their name?!?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ib3 on November 21, 2018, 09:17:00 AM
Started. Feel free to edit.
Where can I find it?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on November 21, 2018, 09:19:23 AM

True, be "careful" there's reports of shutdowns if buying GC on an account then using it on the same account for tax exempt
Yes if you use GC on a tax exempt account, you risk the account that bought the GC as well as the account that uses the GC. Of course this only matters if you care about accounts. But if you have a built up working elite plus account (and obviously if you have any rewards - thought best practice is to use those as fast as possible) you may not want to risk it.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on November 21, 2018, 09:26:35 AM
Gonna add any other info besides their name?!?

No. In fact I decided to remove the wiki. I think the less this info is available online the better.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on November 21, 2018, 09:27:36 AM
No. In fact I decided to remove the wiki. I think the less this info is available online the better.
Why is that?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on November 21, 2018, 09:44:07 AM
Why is that?

BB can very easily start to crack down on their tax exempt policy, enforce limits etc to name a few
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on November 21, 2018, 09:45:31 AM
BB can very easily start to crack down on their tax exempt policy, enforce limits etc to name a few
BB is fully aware their TE policy is being violated.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on November 21, 2018, 09:49:20 AM
BB is fully aware their TE policy is being violated.

Not sure if it's so smart though to start listing all the "tricks" how to get multiple orders through - they can close those loopholes very easily
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on November 21, 2018, 09:49:51 AM
BB can very easily start to crack down on their tax exempt policy, enforce limits etc to name a few
You honestly think that BB doesn't see the tens of millions of dollars of merchandise being bought with tax exempt cards?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on November 21, 2018, 09:50:57 AM
Not sure if it's so smart though to start listing all the "tricks" how to get multiple orders through - they can close those loopholes very easily
I agree but was just asking what is wrong with listing the different buying groups in the wiki.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on November 21, 2018, 09:56:10 AM
I agree but was just asking what is wrong with listing the different buying groups in the wiki.

Nothing wrong with a list of names. A detailed description of each group with their website portals is what I would stay away from.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on November 21, 2018, 10:01:18 AM
BB can very easily start to crack down on their tax exempt policy, enforce limits etc to name a few

Banks and CC can crackdown as well - many reports of shutdowns because of such unusual activity, besides for it being a risk to the CC company itself.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on November 21, 2018, 10:05:45 AM
Banks and CC can crackdown as well - many reports of shutdowns because of such unusual activity.
Reminds me of the abuse with Amex/MS. They were aware of it but just didn't know how to handle it. They figured it out somewhat. The same with WF now.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Afrages6 on November 21, 2018, 03:36:50 PM
Banks and CC can crackdown as well - many reports of shutdowns because of such unusual activity, besides for it being a risk to the CC company itself.
Why is buying stuff from BB a risk for the CC company?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on November 21, 2018, 03:37:42 PM
Why is buying stuff from BB a risk for the CC company?
because they are not stupid
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on November 21, 2018, 03:46:15 PM
because they are not stupid
You sure about that?  :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on November 21, 2018, 03:51:11 PM
You sure about that?  :)
you should know
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Afrages6 on November 21, 2018, 03:53:04 PM
because they are not stupid
How is that an answer
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on November 21, 2018, 03:55:59 PM
How is that an answer
Ok since you are new I will spell it out for you. The credit card companies know that you are buying things for resellers just to get the points. They do not like this and will shut you down for it.

I am not saying this is a guarantee I am just answering your question.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Afrages6 on November 21, 2018, 04:11:00 PM
Ok since you are new I will spell it out for you. The credit card companies know that you are buying things for resellers just to get the points. They do not like this and will shut you down for it.

I am not saying this is a guarantee I am just answering your question.
I get that part. But you said that it is a risk to the CC companies. I guess you meant a personal risk to be shutdown by the companies.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on November 21, 2018, 04:12:32 PM
I get that part. But you said that it is a risk to the CC companies. I guess you meant a personal risk to be shutdown by the companies.
i didnít say it but yes thatís what was meant
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Abet rich on November 21, 2018, 04:18:12 PM
It is a risk to the cc companies because when they are extending you 50k in loans and you donít have that to pay back but rather are banking on someone else to give you the money for it, if something goes wrong than they are out 50k
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: joey89 on November 21, 2018, 04:51:52 PM
BB is fully aware their TE policy is being violated.
It is really easy to get a BB TE card, I have opened several as a reseller (only end users are supposed to pay the tax) donít know why people are not encouraged to open their own
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: joey89 on November 21, 2018, 04:53:44 PM
It is a risk to the cc companies because when they are extending you 50k in loans and you donít have that to pay back but rather are banking on someone else to give you the money for it, if something goes wrong than they are out 50k

+1 And it is unsecured debt which means in must instances they wonít have any way to recover their principal.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on November 21, 2018, 06:05:14 PM
Have not done this in years, however I would buy without the tax exempt and then email BB with the order number and tax exempt number and they would refund the taxes and I would earn points.
Be aware they might insist on the tax exempt name matching the name on the order
Nowadays the name on the order has to be same as the tax exempt card.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on November 21, 2018, 06:09:54 PM
Banks and CC can crackdown as well - many reports of shutdowns because of such unusual activity, besides for it being a risk to the CC company itself.
It is a risk to the cc companies because when they are extending you 50k in loans and you donít have that to pay back but rather are banking on someone else to give you the money for it, if something goes wrong than they are out 50k
+1 And it is unsecured debt which means in must instances they wonít have any way to recover their principal.
Exactly. Chase tried to shut me down because if this (one of the times).
They literally told me it was because I seem to be part of a scam where I buy stuff for someone and he pays me back for it.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on November 21, 2018, 08:19:07 PM
How often can you make orders by Macy's without getting cancelled? Ordering to house.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on November 21, 2018, 08:19:40 PM
i didnít say it but yes thatís what was meant

This is more like it:
It is a risk to the cc companies because when they are extending you 50k in loans and you donít have that to pay back but rather are banking on someone else to give you the money for it, if something goes wrong than they are out 50k

Right. Say they give me a check to deposit and it bounces and the guy runs off - you are not going to pay that cc bill so they will have to take the hit.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on November 23, 2018, 08:21:43 PM
This is more like it:
Right. Say they give me a check to deposit and it bounces and the guy runs off - you are not going to pay that cc bill so they will have to take the hit.
But they will still try to collect and maybe take you to court? No?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on November 24, 2018, 08:23:18 PM
How often can you make orders by Macy's without getting cancelled? Ordering to house.
Having success to DE with fitbits
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: myi on November 25, 2018, 02:19:52 AM
Exactly. Chase tried to shut me down because if this (one of the times).
They literally told me it was because I seem to be part of a scam where I buy stuff for someone and he pays me back for it.
Wow you're making me think twice before using my chase cards.
But then again who's to say i'm buying for a buying group for resale when i can be a re-seller on Amazon or eBay and flip products i find at a good price?
As well whats to say i don't have the cash to cover my spending i've done on my cc? Oh because its not stored on my chase account? You have to have only one bank?
 And primarily talking where you don't deposit checks from these companies to your chase account therefore, not aiding them in there so called crime your doing.(As well not opening cc's for the bonus and after a year later shutting them,hence showing them your playing the system and have a funny pattern of spending. In essence its showing up for all your cards which you've opened while banking with chase doing the same act of opening and closing first year.
 As always PGFHGS, YMMV. Good luck with the churning game.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on November 25, 2018, 11:25:20 AM
Looking for the 128gb iPad that was on sale for $329. I was unsuccessful getting any BF. Would love to buy one off someone. I need for personal use. I can pay cost plus commission that buying group is paying. Would also be open to swapping one out for a PS4, plus I pay the difference from $199 to $329.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on November 25, 2018, 12:48:16 PM
Anyone have success buying from Jet shipped to DE? First order they immediately canceled the order and put the account on hold. Verification team says the address is set up as a mail forwarding service or something like that. Any way around this?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on November 25, 2018, 05:21:27 PM
Anyone have success buying from Jet shipped to DE? First order they immediately canceled the order and put the account on hold. Verification team says the address is set up as a mail forwarding service or something like that. Any way around this?
Not that I know of. Which group still tries to ship with Jet.com to Delaware? I haven't seen one that even tried recently.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on November 25, 2018, 05:59:29 PM
Not that I know of. Which group still tries to ship with Jet.com to Delaware? I haven't seen one that even tried recently.
MYS has jet listings in their latest email. You can't do tax-exempt with jet, and the deals are a loss if you pay tax. What state are they expecting if not DE?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on November 25, 2018, 07:27:43 PM
Not that I know of. Which group still tries to ship with Jet.com to Delaware? I haven't seen one that even tried recently.
Everyone wants the 32 gb ipads for $249, for example, whether they list Jet or not.
Anyone have success buying from Jet shipped to DE? First order they immediately canceled the order and put the account on hold. Verification team says the address is set up as a mail forwarding service or something like that. Any way around this?
Same problems.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mordyk on November 25, 2018, 08:06:32 PM
walmart cancels instantly  even the smallest order
Any tips on this?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on November 26, 2018, 01:42:26 PM
MYS has jet listings in their latest email. You can't do tax-exempt with jet, and the deals are a loss if you pay tax. What state are they expecting if not DE?
Seems like you have your answer. Do you know anyone who was able to get an order through? There's a reason why other groups stopped trying to order from Jet.com. People will just end up with disabled accounts with no gain. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on November 26, 2018, 02:13:05 PM
FWIW SAH tracking on my cancelled Jet orders. Prob won't stick but you never know.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on November 26, 2018, 02:49:10 PM
Anyone bought the latest version MacBook Pro from google express for 940 willing to sell it to me? Will match whatever comission you can get
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on November 26, 2018, 07:34:11 PM
Feel like this thread should be in General Discussion.
Agreed. MS is so different now.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on November 26, 2018, 09:36:49 PM
Target charges sales tax to DE as well
-1

Nobody charges sales tax in DE, the state doesnít collect tax.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on November 26, 2018, 09:46:10 PM
do you have the credit or debit?
is the debit a pull?
I got the debit. Credit is a pull. Debit isnít really a debit, it works like a check- pulls money straight from your regular bank account every time you make a purchase.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on November 26, 2018, 10:21:19 PM
I got the debit. Credit is a pull. Debit isnít really a debit, it works like a check- pulls money straight from your regular bank account every time you make a purchase.

How is that not like a regular debit card?  ???
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on November 27, 2018, 12:34:57 PM
How is that not like a regular debit card?  ???
target isn't really a bank
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on November 29, 2018, 11:22:30 AM
Anyone have success buying from Jet shipped to DE? First order they immediately canceled the order and put the account on hold. Verification team says the address is set up as a mail forwarding service or something like that. Any way around this?
My order from Jet was just delivered to DE
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on November 29, 2018, 12:39:04 PM
To a buying group's warehouse? Anybissies with your account after the order?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on November 29, 2018, 12:40:09 PM
To a buying group's warehouse? Anybissies with your account after the order?
Yes and I don't know - i don't order much from them
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on November 29, 2018, 12:42:00 PM
Cool. I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on November 29, 2018, 12:51:37 PM
How is that not like a regular debit card?  ???
Because you don't deposit your money into Target, it stays at your regular bank. I guess technically it is a debit- just like an additional debit card from your bank, not a Target issued one.

But truthfully, the main difference is, they don't pull the money instantly and see if you had the funds or not. Can take a day or two to process, which makes it like a check, in that it can technically bounce.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on November 29, 2018, 01:40:39 PM
Yes and I don't know - i don't order much from them
Was this your first Jet order? Trying to figure out if it's worth trying again and again with Jet.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on November 29, 2018, 01:42:02 PM
I think my 3rd over all order - 1st one for buying group and it was also a very small order
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 04, 2018, 01:18:37 PM
Anyone else think it's a bit excessive that item delivered to DE 7-10 days ago are still not acknowledged as having been received?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 04, 2018, 01:19:14 PM
No
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 04, 2018, 01:25:15 PM
Anyone else think it's a bit excessive that item delivered to DE 7-10 days ago are still not acknowledged as having been received?

Yes.

They have also been taking their time with issuing checks from when you request it in the portal.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 04, 2018, 01:26:16 PM
Yes.

They have also been taking their time with issuing checks from when you request it in the portal.
That's a different story.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 04, 2018, 01:27:26 PM
They have also been taking their time with issuing checks from when you request it in the portal.
No option for eCheck?

Guys get on that..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 04, 2018, 01:28:10 PM
No option for eCheck?

Guys get on that..

I am talking about echeck. That is why itís shocking how long they are taking to just email a check.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on December 04, 2018, 01:28:29 PM
I requested an echeck 3-4 days ago amd i still haven't gotten it
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 04, 2018, 01:29:27 PM
I requested an echeck 3-4 days ago amd i still haven't gotten it

Keep on waiting, I know of people waiting double.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 04, 2018, 01:29:49 PM
Anyone else think it's a bit excessive that item delivered to DE 7-10 days ago are still not acknowledged as having been received?
I agree for the most part. They should be able to ramp up capacity when necessary, but I can understand that they want to maximize profit by just grinding through orders as quick as possible with existing staff. To me the part that speaks poorly on these groups is to be seemingly surprised by the volume - or they expected it, but haven't communicated in advance that processing may take x amount of time. I have items delivered at least a week ago with 2 groups, and no expected timeline for processing was given beforehand - or even now TBH, just "we're working to get all deliveries processed as soon as possible" or something along those lines. It does not inspire confidence for those essentially trusting them with large amounts of money.
I am talking about echeck. That is why itís shocking how long they are taking to just email a check.
I requested an echeck 3-4 days ago amd i still haven't gotten it
+1. I'm relatively new to this, so I didn't realize I could've just rolled it all into a check at pickup. Would've expedited and simplified the process for me.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yossig on December 04, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
Anyone else think it's a bit excessive that item delivered to DE 7-10 days ago are still not acknowledged as having been received?
+1
And there are many mistakes in the system (like paying for kindle $49 instead of $79+ commission and more).

What Is making me uncomfortable (Iím a new buyer) is the fact that when issues arose they never offered to investigate, and always blamed me or the seller for sending the wrong item even though they were always the one who made the mistakes.

I also signed up innocently not thinking what could go wrong, but the real question is, is it really worth it these few dollars for the risks involved?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on December 04, 2018, 02:48:50 PM
Maybe you guys should post which group you are having issues with. The group I sent stuff to in Delaware doesn't seem to be more than a day behind according to my tracking numbers.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 04, 2018, 03:04:39 PM
Must be a small group, no big group is that up to date afaik.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 04, 2018, 03:07:08 PM
Maybe you guys should post which group you are having issues with. The group I sent stuff to in Delaware doesn't seem to be more than a day behind according to my tracking numbers.
pretty sure the 2 that most people are buying for are very behind.

If they scanned a few things everyday I would understand that they are trying to get through it but when are not scanning any of it.....
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 04, 2018, 03:10:03 PM
MYS seems to be working round the clock, getting check-in emails 2-3am.

Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 04, 2018, 03:11:54 PM
MYS seems to be working round the clock, getting check-in emails 2-3am.
Same here. No check yet but they are at least sending me receipts, as opposed to others
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: shulem92 on December 04, 2018, 03:18:10 PM
+1
And there are many mistakes in the system (like paying for kindle $49 instead of $79+ commission and more).

What Is making me uncomfortable (Iím a new buyer) is the fact that when issues arose they never offered to investigate, and always blamed me or the seller for sending the wrong item even though they were always the one who made the mistakes.

I also signed up innocently not thinking what could go wrong, but the real question is, is it really worth it these few dollars for the risks involved?
FWIW, this is how i check my amazon orders. i download my amazon report for the last month, and match it up to my delivered items on the buying groups site. ssaves me a lot of time. also this way i know exactly which order got screwed up, (rarely happened by me)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 04, 2018, 03:20:35 PM
Same here. No check yet but they are at least sending me receipts, as opposed to others
I pick up the check when dropping off BB stuff. much faster.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 04, 2018, 03:27:50 PM
I pick up the check when dropping off BB stuff. much faster.
Please share how you get BB stuff
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 04, 2018, 03:28:22 PM
Also, can we finally get this thread moved to General Discussion? @Dan @jj1000
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 04, 2018, 03:29:35 PM
They have mountains of packages to work through I get it. We'll be paid eventually and in plenty of time to pay off CC. I'm going through the hassle of claiming checks as they come in. More accounting on my side but worth it to get money faster to pay my bills in order of due dates etc.

The echeck delay annoys me too, however. Always can't help but wondering if they are having cash flow issues with the volumes we are talking about.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 04, 2018, 03:29:58 PM
Please share how you get BB stuff
Huh? I order.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 04, 2018, 03:34:53 PM


They have mountains of packages to work through I get it. We'll be paid eventually and in plenty of time to pay off CC. I'm going through the hassle of claiming checks as they come in. More accounting on my side but worth it to get money faster to pay my bills in order of due dates etc.

The echeck delay annoys me too, however. Always can't help but wondering if they are having cash flow issues with the volumes we are talking about.
+1
I think if anyone remembers last year, or even prime day somewhat it was the same, and we all got paid. (Aside from a group or 2 that went rogue, and are now out of biz IINM)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on December 04, 2018, 03:35:56 PM
Must be a small group, no big group is that up to date afaik.
Mint Coins, now known as Points maker. Don't think they're small at all.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 04, 2018, 03:37:07 PM
Mint Coins, now known as Points maker. Don't think they're small at all.
I'm having some delays, but by far the best to deal with and are on top of their game.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on December 04, 2018, 03:38:32 PM
Mint Coins, now known as Points maker. Don't think they're small at all.

They are behind. you got lucky
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on December 04, 2018, 03:40:28 PM

The echeck delay annoys me too, however. Always can't help but wondering if they are having cash flow issues with the volumes we are talking about.

MYS used to pay right away. they started this 4 day wait time and make more work for themselves. now everyone keeps requesting checks daily as opposed to waiting till the end and they have to issue more checks. They should pay right away with the understanding that it might on occasion take an extra day or 2. once they started this 4 day thing its all downhill from there.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on December 04, 2018, 03:46:04 PM
+1
And there are many mistakes in the system (like paying for kindle $49 instead of $79+ commission and more).

What Is making me uncomfortable (Iím a new buyer) is the fact that when issues arose they never offered to investigate, and always blamed me or the seller for sending the wrong item even though they were always the one who made the mistakes.

I also signed up innocently not thinking what could go wrong, but the real question is, is it really worth it these few dollars for the risks involved?
INMO it is not worth the risk.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 04, 2018, 03:46:52 PM
MYS used to pay right away. they started this 4 day wait time and make more work for themselves. now everyone keeps requesting checks daily as opposed to waiting till the end and they have to issue more checks. They should pay right away with the understanding that it might on occasion take an extra day or 2. once they started this 4 day thing its all downhill from there.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yossig on December 04, 2018, 04:29:37 PM
MYS seems to be working round the clock, getting check-in emails 2-3am.
they processed maybe 10% of my orders
Checks I do pickup and I get it on the spot
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yossig on December 04, 2018, 04:31:07 PM
INMO it is not worth the risk.
I think the risks involved need to be clarified so ppl know what they are getting themselves into.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 04, 2018, 05:08:47 PM


+1
I think if anyone remembers last year, or even prime day somewhat it was the same, and we all got paid. (Aside from a group or 2 that went rogue, and are now out of biz IINM)

That parentheses is the important part. Any established group can become a rogue group that has to go out of business because of some mistakes that snowball.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 04, 2018, 05:20:57 PM

That parentheses is the important part. Any established group can become a rogue group that has to go out of business because of some mistakes that snowball.
they both opened up for BF. And I didnt touch either
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 04, 2018, 05:38:12 PM
they both opened up for BF. And I didnt touch either
My point was not those specific group. Rather that if an established group goes under, it won't be all of a sudden. It'll be a steady decline with lots of signs to point to in retrospect.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: JunkYardUnz on December 04, 2018, 05:46:25 PM
Mint Coins, now known as Points maker. Don't think they're small at all.
IME these guys may have as many deals as the other groups but they are the easiest to deal with. I no longer use any other buying groups due to negative experiences.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: shulem92 on December 04, 2018, 05:53:05 PM
Mint Coins, now known as Points maker. Don't think they're small at all.
not a small group at all. i was in their warehouse the other day and they hired an extra 5 workers (when i was there, and i saw another 2 guys leaving) to deal with the BF overload
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chinagel on December 04, 2018, 05:54:01 PM
IME these guys may have as many deals as the other groups but they are the easiest to deal with. 
+100, world of a difference.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mordyk on December 04, 2018, 06:16:58 PM
IME these guys may have as many deals as the other groups but they are the easiest to deal with. I no longer use any other buying groups due to negative experiences.
+1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 04, 2018, 06:25:18 PM
Mint Coins, now known as Points maker. Don't think they're small at all.
Donít know them. Can you add their info to the wiki or PM me?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on December 04, 2018, 07:02:18 PM
What do Buying groups do with the merchandise?  I've heard resale on Amazon and exports to Dubai.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ttn on December 04, 2018, 07:23:22 PM
IME these guys may have as many deals as the other groups but they are the easiest to deal with. I no longer use any other buying groups due to negative experiences.
+1000
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 04, 2018, 07:25:48 PM
Donít know them. Can you add their info to the wiki or PM me?

Would take a PM with their info too.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 04, 2018, 07:28:16 PM
Would take a PM with their info too.
Just google their name and a website comes up.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 04, 2018, 07:28:57 PM
Anyone can PM me if you need something to put in by referred by ;)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on December 04, 2018, 07:48:48 PM
Anyone can PM me if you need something to put in by referred by ;)

Clearly failed at reading the rules here. Back to your gemorah!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Willie on December 04, 2018, 07:49:17 PM
What do Buying groups do with the merchandise?  I've heard resale on Amazon and exports to Dubai.

I dont see how they can sell on Amazon... considering they probably have thousands of apple products for instance... If I were to guess I would say they wholesale it to other sellers for a small profit... Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on December 04, 2018, 07:49:56 PM
IME these guys may have as many deals as the other groups but they are the easiest to deal with. I no longer use any other buying groups due to negative experiences.

I feel like they have way less deals on a cosistent basis but are def easier to deal with
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 04, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
Clearly failed at reading the rules here. Back to your gemorah!
It's called making diukim :)
But glad you look at me that way...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 04, 2018, 11:45:34 PM
Donít know them. Can you add their info to the wiki or PM me?
Ok guys, stop PMing me lol. Donít know how small they can be when there are so many members just on this forum..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: aygart on December 04, 2018, 11:47:43 PM
It's called making diukim :)
But glad you look at me that way...
I hope you gemoro diyukim are better than that one.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 05, 2018, 04:58:50 PM
FWIW, this is how i check my amazon orders. i download my amazon report for the last month, and match it up to my delivered items on the buying groups site. ssaves me a lot of time. also this way i know exactly which order got screwed up, (rarely happened by me)
how do you do that? any direct link?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: shulem92 on December 05, 2018, 05:02:36 PM
how do you do that? any direct link?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/b2b/reports
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 05, 2018, 05:22:44 PM
I had this issue. A buying group recommended a ebay deal through antonline. They sent the wrong product that was selling for 30.00 less than what i was charged. The ebay seller refuses to take a return. I told the Buying Group they should write which ebay seller is in the deal so that buyers can be carefull not to purchase from them. This happened to me 2 times. When I complained to the ebay seller they stopped me from buying from them.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 05, 2018, 06:51:33 PM
I had this issue. A buying group recommended a ebay deal through antonline. They sent the wrong product that was selling for 30.00 less than what i was charged. The ebay seller refuses to take a return. I told the Buying Group they should write which ebay seller is in the deal so that buyers can be carefull not to purchase from them. This happened to me 2 times. When I complained to the ebay seller they stopped me from buying from them.

I had this issue. A buying group recommended a ebay deal through antonline. They sent the wrong product that was selling for 30.00 less than what i was charged. The ebay seller refuses to take a return. I told the Buying Group they should write which ebay seller is in the deal so that buyers can be carefull not to purchase from them. This happened to me 2 times. When I complained to the ebay seller they stopped me from buying from them.

I'm surprised. Antonline is very well aware that buying groups buy his products and seemingly inferd that he was happy about it (because eBay takes the loss, not him).
And someone stole 3/5 of my Xboxes a year ago and antonline said they sent them out so I sent that message to amex and offered to send them a ring video of my UPS driver carrying a what was supposed to be 60 pound box like it weighed 22 to them and they refunded me as antonline didn't answer the contest.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 05, 2018, 09:46:36 PM
I tried both ways  communicating with Antonline directly and through ebay and both times I had issues with Antonline.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on December 05, 2018, 10:17:00 PM
I tried both ways  communicating with Antonline directly and through ebay and both times I had issues with Antonline.

Doesn't Antonline offer free returns on basically all their products?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sams on December 06, 2018, 01:29:19 AM
Antonline has lots of issues !but if u donít run into them they can be very lucrative
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 06, 2018, 11:50:11 AM
Been ordering pretty steadily from BB to my house (NY) for the last few weeks without issue. Now, while trying to put through ipad orders they're all getting canceled. Is this the beginning of the end of BB for me?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on December 06, 2018, 11:52:36 AM
Been ordering pretty steadily from BB to my house (NY) for the last few weeks without issue. Now, while trying to put through ipad orders they're all getting canceled. Is this the beginning of the end of BB for me?
Apple products are always hard.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 06, 2018, 12:12:52 PM
Apple products are always hard.
I made a order of 8 ipads for 4200 on last week no problem. Seems odd.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 06, 2018, 12:15:53 PM
Been ordering pretty steadily from BB to my house (NY) for the last few weeks without issue. Now, while trying to put through ipad orders they're all getting canceled. Is this the beginning of the end of BB for me?
welcome to the club.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitzshpitz on December 06, 2018, 12:24:35 PM
welcome to the club.

Use paypal sometimes and switch up address. They are always stricter about apple products
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 06, 2018, 12:29:48 PM
I made a order of 8 ipads for 4200 on last week no problem. Seems odd.

Most of mine went through too, no issues.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 06, 2018, 12:49:50 PM
Use paypal sometimes and switch up address. They are always stricter about apple products
Figured I'd try that. Didn't work. Worse still, for some reason a straight cc cancellation gets an immediate refund credit on the cc, while Paypal seems to hang for much longer - leaving me stuck with the dead weight on the cc for longer.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitzshpitz on December 06, 2018, 12:59:33 PM
Figured I'd try that. Didn't work. Worse still, for some reason a straight cc cancellation gets an immediate refund credit on the cc, while Paypal seems to hang for much longer - leaving me stuck with the dead weight on the cc for longer.

This is true. Paypal takes a while to refund.

Multiple email addresses,addresses,  names on package, and forms of payment will help. Also waiting for order to go through before ordering more. Doesnt always work but sometimes does
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 06, 2018, 01:06:05 PM
This is true. Paypal takes a while to refund.

Multiple email addresses,addresses,  names on package, and forms of payment will help. Also waiting for order to go through before ordering more. Doesnt always work but sometimes does
What does go through mean in this context?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitzshpitz on December 06, 2018, 01:08:26 PM
What does go through mean in this context?

When it says "Preparing" on order status as opposed to "In progress"
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 06, 2018, 01:10:00 PM
When it says "Preparing" on order status as opposed to "In progress"
Great info, thanks

I've been messing around a bit and it seems like my cc is the sticking point. But then I'm only really doing this right now to meet spending on my Spark, so not worth all the hassle for me otherwise.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitzshpitz on December 06, 2018, 01:13:35 PM

... I'm only really doing this right now to meet spending on my Spark, so not worth all the hassle for me otherwise.

Same here. I dabble in it. Good luck
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on December 06, 2018, 02:00:27 PM
Been ordering pretty steadily from BB to my house (NY) for the last few weeks without issue. Now, while trying to put through ipad orders they're all getting canceled. Is this the beginning of the end of BB for me?

Same here. But I received this email:

"S, we canceled your order.

Unfortunately, your order has exceeded our quantity limits. Please see our Conditions of Use, which explains order limitations and limited quantities.

For details regarding refunds and credits, see the What You Need to Know section.

We value you as a Best Buyģ customer and hope to see you again soon.

Sincerely,

Your Customer Care Team"

I think it's better though than the other cancellation email that says they can't verify information.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 06, 2018, 02:26:19 PM
Same different toilet.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on December 06, 2018, 02:37:10 PM
IME, this one means your order was flagged for manual review, and was then manually cancelled, and the other one means the system automatically cancelled it.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 06, 2018, 05:50:41 PM
IME, this one means your order was flagged for manual review, and was then manually cancelled, and the other one means the system automatically cancelled it.
Nah. My account it shot and gets automatic "couldn't verify" emails.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bb1836 on December 06, 2018, 06:11:50 PM
Apple products in general are flagged more than others. don't think its specific to your account
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on December 06, 2018, 08:25:05 PM
Nah. My account it shot and gets automatic "couldn't verify" emails.
Exactly the second one is automatic. I have that, too. עמו אנכי בצרה...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitzshpitz on December 06, 2018, 08:33:21 PM
I went like 5 for 16 in my apple orders today. If I was playing baseball I would have a good batting average.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on December 07, 2018, 12:07:35 AM
I'm buying Canon 3 per day, any data points in anyone buying larger qty then 3 per order with Canon and canon not canceling orders?

EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III Refurbished
https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/eos-rebel-t6-ef-s-18-55-with-ef-75-300mm-f-4-56-iii-refurbished?WT.mc_id=C126149&cjevent=094e7c0bf62511e8830403530a240611
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on December 07, 2018, 12:35:52 AM
I'm buying Canon 3 per day, any data points in anyone buying larger qty then 3 per order with Canon and canon not canceling orders?

EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III Refurbished
https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/eos-rebel-t6-ef-s-18-55-with-ef-75-300mm-f-4-56-iii-refurbished?WT.mc_id=C126149&cjevent=094e7c0bf62511e8830403530a240611

Be careful - Once you add more than 3 to your cart the price goes up.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on December 07, 2018, 12:53:11 AM
Be careful - Once you add more than 3 to your cart the price goes up.

Thanks for the heads us, love the canon deal 3 miles per $1 on AA .
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on December 07, 2018, 01:01:09 AM
Thanks for the heads us, love the canon deal 3 miles per $1 on AA .
Do you have a link for this? Thanks
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on December 07, 2018, 02:53:41 AM
Do you have a link for this? Thanks

https://www.aadvantageeshopping.com/me____.htm?keywords=Canon&gmid=3106
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bb1836 on December 07, 2018, 09:19:41 AM
I'm buying Canon 3 per day, any data points in anyone buying larger qty then 3 per order with Canon and canon not canceling orders?

EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III Refurbished
https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/eos-rebel-t6-ef-s-18-55-with-ef-75-300mm-f-4-56-iii-refurbished?WT.mc_id=C126149&cjevent=094e7c0bf62511e8830403530a240611
Who you buying for?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 07, 2018, 09:59:18 AM
FYI: When payments start taking longer that is a major red flag. A one time payment lag is not a big deal. If all payments start taking longer (even a day or two) run as fast as you can.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 07, 2018, 10:24:29 AM
There's always the option of picking up a check in person. (For now).
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitzshpitz on December 07, 2018, 10:39:36 AM
There's always the option of picking up a check in person. (For now).

Sometimes they will even let you pick up multiple at a time when picking up YMMV
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 07, 2018, 11:21:35 AM
I'm buying Canon 3 per day, any data points in anyone buying larger qty then 3 per order with Canon and canon not canceling orders?

EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III Refurbished
https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/eos-rebel-t6-ef-s-18-55-with-ef-75-300mm-f-4-56-iii-refurbished?WT.mc_id=C126149&cjevent=094e7c0bf62511e8830403530a240611
You can make multiple orders (different cards / names / email addresses to be safe) and ship to your house. 3 per order.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on December 07, 2018, 11:24:47 AM
You can make multiple orders (different cards / names / email addresses to be safe) and ship to your house. 3 per order.
no tax?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 07, 2018, 11:34:56 AM
no tax?
Tax, but commission covers tax. So using for CC signups / points.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on December 07, 2018, 11:45:34 AM
Which group has this deal?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Shotguns on December 07, 2018, 12:11:27 PM
also retailmenot cashback makes this deal pretty lucrative.

$50 back for an order of 2 cameras.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bb1836 on December 07, 2018, 12:15:45 PM
Which group has this deal?
bump
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 07, 2018, 12:18:14 PM
Thanks for the heads us, love the canon deal 3 miles per $1 on AA .
also retailmenot cashback makes this deal pretty lucrative.

$50 back for an order of 2 cameras.
-No referral offers or discussion of referral offers and/or toolbars or shopping portals are allowed on the forums (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=31.0)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Willie on December 07, 2018, 12:29:38 PM
Camera is sold out...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on December 07, 2018, 12:29:40 PM
bump
MYS
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on December 07, 2018, 12:54:40 PM
What is a good shopping portal for Best buy apple products?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 07, 2018, 12:57:26 PM
FYI: When payments start taking longer that is a major red flag. A one time payment lag is not a big deal. If all payments start taking longer (even a day or two) run as fast as you can.
That's basically every group now ime, there is a multi-day lag between check request and receiving check that didn't use to be the case. Though I'm not as worried as you..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on December 07, 2018, 01:01:50 PM
That's basically every group now ime, there is a multi-day lag between check request and receiving check that didn't use to be the case. Though I'm not as worried as you..
Didn't have a delay with Mint Coins. May have gotten lucky again though..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 07, 2018, 01:35:54 PM
That's basically every group now ime, there is a multi-day lag between check request and receiving check that didn't use to be the case. Though I'm not as worried as you..
Not a good sign. Cash flow is precursor to bankruptcy.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 08, 2018, 08:18:28 PM






What is a good shopping portal for Best buy apple products?

-No referral offers or discussion of referral offers and/or toolbars or shopping portals are allowed on the forums (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=31.0)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 10, 2018, 02:35:12 PM
Anyone else think it's a bit excessive that item delivered to DE 7-10 days ago are still not acknowledged as having been received?
And here we are another week later. I have items delivered a full 2 weeks ago that still have not been scanned. Of my orders that were delivered 7 or more days ago, only half have been processed. At some point this starts to feel shaky.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Willie on December 10, 2018, 02:40:37 PM
Any tips on how to get any best buy orders through (not changing address/name/phone number/email)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 10, 2018, 02:42:31 PM
And here we are another week later. I have items delivered a full 2 weeks ago that still have not been scanned. Of my orders that were delivered 7 or more days ago, only half have been processed. At some point this starts to feel shaky.
This is a problem. I don't care if you don't open the packages and have it ready for payment right away, I get the warehouse is backed up right now. But at least let me know you got my package, since if you didn't and the carrier says it was delivered, I can't come back a month later and say I never got it.

And since you are having multi-week delay on incoming packages, at least once the contents are verified, do your "customers" a favor and process echecks at the end of every business day.
Import / Export batch features should make it pretty quick to process..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitzshpitz on December 10, 2018, 02:43:53 PM
Any tips on how to get any best buy orders through (not changing address/name/phone number/email)

check out as guest. Use paypal. Do all the things you mentioned that you dont want to do
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Willie on December 10, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
check out as guest. Use paypal. Do all the things you mentioned that you dont want to do
*All the things already done
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 10, 2018, 03:42:40 PM
Any tips on how to get any best buy orders through (not changing address/name/phone number/email)
IP, incognito, new cc
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on December 10, 2018, 05:59:07 PM
IP, incognito, new cc
Does a new cc matter if using PayPal ?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 10, 2018, 10:17:09 PM
Does a new cc matter if using PayPal ?
Paypal has not been working for me on apple products.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 10, 2018, 11:45:00 PM
Does a new cc matter if using PayPal ?
Possibly, I never got clear data on this but since I stopped using it and using straight cc I've been getting more orders through
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: stooges44 on December 11, 2018, 06:22:47 AM
Paypal has not been working for me on apple products.

+1 it seems as if apple themselves check orders. Once I was banned from buying apple on bb nothing has helped. I can buy anything and everything on bb except apple and nothing I tried has helped even waiting months. I really find it interesting how the algorithms can pinpoint only apple items within minutes of placing an order and then cancel the whole order.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 11, 2018, 07:12:51 AM
+1 it seems as if apple themselves check orders. Once I was banned from buying apple on bb nothing has helped. I can buy anything and everything on bb except apple and nothing I tried has helped even waiting months. I really find it interesting how the algorithms can pinpoint only apple items within minutes of placing an order and then cancel the whole order.
The algorithm is simply set up to stop multiple orders on things they know all people try to get multiple orders of, and Apple products are definitely in that category. They are more lenient on other products. Unless your banned for good like me, and you can't get anything thru.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: stooges44 on December 11, 2018, 07:43:35 AM
The algorithm is simply set up to stop multiple orders on things they know all people try to get multiple orders of, and Apple products are definitely in that category. They are more lenient on other products. Unless your banned for good like me, and you can't get anything thru.

Even one ipad gets cancelled for me
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitzshpitz on December 11, 2018, 10:01:19 AM
Paypal has not been working for me on apple products.

It doesnt always work but sometimes will help me get an extra couple through, especially if I check out as guest
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chaimmayer on December 11, 2018, 10:41:39 AM
Anyone get through a simple mobile ban?
I always get a payment error message.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 11, 2018, 01:14:49 PM
I tried purchasing 2 Dell that were on Best Buy Dell from deal of the day got a instant decline. My friend ordered 1 to pick up and it worked. Anyone tried and had success.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 11, 2018, 01:14:54 PM
Anyone get through a simple mobile ban?
I always get a payment error message.
Ordering to your own house?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 11, 2018, 01:29:48 PM
I tried purchasing 2 Dell that were on Best Buy Dell from deal of the day got a instant decline. My friend ordered 1 to pick up and it worked. Anyone tried and had success.
Ordering to your own house?
I had this problem too. I've ordered bestbuy stuff to my house and to a relative in another state. Now I suddenly appear locked into ordering to my relative. Anything to my house gets insta-canceled, anything to the relative gets through fine (except Apple).
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chaimmayer on December 11, 2018, 02:26:57 PM
Ordering to your own house?
Yes
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 11, 2018, 03:07:52 PM
this game is called YMMV, everything is a hit or miss, there are no real rules
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: pointer on December 11, 2018, 03:24:07 PM
what worked for me was paying exclusively with gift cards, (no billing add.) less likely to link to old account
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on December 11, 2018, 03:29:14 PM
I tried purchasing 2 Dell that were on Best Buy Dell from deal of the day got a instant decline. My friend ordered 1 to pick up and it worked. Anyone tried and had success.

Got in 1 order. Tried a second order using guest checkout with paypal and was canceled.

this game is called YMMV, everything is a hit or miss, there are no real rules

-1 there are definitely certain things that won't work and certain things to avoid - and also seems like bb changed something in their system - as people who have never had any issues before now started to have them
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: stooges44 on December 11, 2018, 03:47:53 PM
Got in 1 order. Tried a second order using guest checkout with paypal and was canceled.

-1 there are definitely certain things that won't work and certain things to avoid - and also seems like bb changed something in their system - as people who have never had any issues before now started to have them

Absolutely!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 11, 2018, 03:53:23 PM
Got in 1 order. Tried a second order using guest checkout with paypal and was canceled.

-1 there are definitely certain things that won't work and certain things to avoid - and also seems like bb changed something in their system - as people who have never had any issues before now started to have them
I feel the same way. As yesterday I ordered Apple product to pick up in store and i was able to make 2 orders of 2. In the past I only had a problem with ordering Apple products to my House. So something changed for me over night.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 12, 2018, 12:04:24 PM
Sometimes they will even let you pick up multiple at a time when picking up YMMV
With USA the checks pretty much always come a day or 2 later so never really had an issue. With others, not to be named publicly, I can request it and not receive the echeck for over a week. I usually get it when they do a private pickup from my house and they are giving a check on the spot, I will ask them for all the Delaware pending checks as well. Just facts about my experience.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 12, 2018, 12:18:05 PM
And just to give credit where it is due, I just had my first items for Pointsmaker delivered yesterday and it is already scanned in and in my account. Just requested check and will see how long that takes. The group that I used for all my BF items still has not scanned in a majority of my deliveries. USA seems to be up to 12/2/18 tracking numbers for me.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 12, 2018, 12:20:20 PM
And just to give credit where it is due, I just had my first items for Pointsmaker delivered yesterday and it is already scanned in and in my account. Just requested check and will see how long that takes. The group that I used for all my BF items still has not scanned in a majority of my deliveries. USA seems to be up to 12/2/18 tracking numbers for me.
Smaller groups with less orders being shipped in move quicker..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 12, 2018, 12:23:45 PM
Smaller groups with less orders being shipped in move quicker..
Not exactly.
They are up to date with BF.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 12, 2018, 12:26:37 PM
Not exactly.
You have order volume and member lists from all the groups to compare?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 12, 2018, 12:34:57 PM
Firstly, based on the amount of Best buy tax exempt codes that they have for numerous random states around the country definitely says something about them and the amount of people buying. Secondly, if I am not mistaken between who started and runs this group, I remember hearing a crazy number about how many people they have buying (from a brother in law of mine who is very good friends with this guy).
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 12, 2018, 12:36:34 PM
You have order volume and member lists from all the groups to compare?
Yes I have
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 12, 2018, 01:16:53 PM
Seems to me like Pointsmaker basically didn't post anything new while they dug themselves out from BF/CM. They clearly had a decent handle on how much they had coming in and staffed appropriately. MYS, just as an example (could be others are in the same boat) clearly did not staff up appropriately. When I messaged them complaining that 2 weeks is insane to have something delivered and not processed, they responded that they've already scanned 30k packages, and hope to be up to date by the end of the week (3rd week in a row they've tried to claim that). Guess what - more packages means more profits, more money to pay people to do the processing. High volume is a piss-poor excuse. Learn how to staff for peaks and valleys in demand.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 12, 2018, 01:43:27 PM
Yes I have
Interesting.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 12, 2018, 01:44:41 PM
Interesting.
;)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 12, 2018, 04:11:26 PM
IP, incognito, new cc
An IP truther what say you @AJK  ;D
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: emjee on December 13, 2018, 03:37:44 PM
Firstly, based on the amount of Best buy tax exempt codes that they have for numerous random states around the country definitely says something about them and the amount of people buying. Secondly, if I am not mistaken between who started and runs this group, I remember hearing a crazy number about how many people they have buying (from a brother in law of mine who is very good friends with this guy).
I agree . I researched them 1st before i started with them. Im impressed with their operation and although getting someone on the phone to talk to might be hard at times, whatsapp communication has been great and very helpful with any questions, problems or concerns ive had. Im very happy with them.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: emjee on December 13, 2018, 03:40:25 PM
Good thread topic btw @tzifanya54 .
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 13, 2018, 03:59:40 PM
What is Directly Deals? Can someone pm me. thx
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gingyguy on December 14, 2018, 10:42:45 AM
i find it funny when a certain buying group sends out deals saying dont ship to delaware for deals that have have  alot of money in taxes , and than only reimbursing purchase price plus 5-6 dollars when tax is closer to $75 per item
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on December 14, 2018, 11:22:29 AM
i find it funny when a certain buying group sends out deals saying dont ship to delaware for deals that have have  alot of money in taxes , and than only reimbursing purchase price plus 5-6 dollars when tax is closer to $75 per item
Very often these items only tax  certain states they only want you to buy it if you are in State that is not charging tax
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 14, 2018, 11:27:37 AM
i find it funny when a certain buying group sends out deals saying dont ship to delaware for deals that have have  alot of money in taxes , and than only reimbursing purchase price plus 5-6 dollars when tax is closer to $75 per item
I saw that with MYS on the MacBook deals, but they don't charge tax on Google Express anyway.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: normathej on December 14, 2018, 11:29:07 AM
I saw that with MYS on the MacBook deals, but they don't charge tax on Google Express anyway.

They do in NJ, I can't buy any of those deals.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 14, 2018, 11:39:10 AM
They do in NJ, I can't buy any of those deals.
Lol. Sorry didn't realize. Why is that? Is it specific to certain stores, or across the board on Google Express?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: normathej on December 14, 2018, 11:41:06 AM
Lol. Sorry didn't realize. Why is that? Is it specific to certain stores, or across the board on Google Express?

My assumption is that it goes by the store's physical presence.  So if they are shipping to NJ, and are a NJ store, they have to charge tax.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gingyguy on December 14, 2018, 12:09:44 PM
Lol. Sorry didn't realize. Why is that? Is it specific to certain stores, or across the board on Google Express?
some stores charge some dont. prob depends on where store is. this specific store does
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruliL on December 14, 2018, 01:57:27 PM
Has anyone had any luck with BB lately? I haven't been able to get anything through since BF.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 14, 2018, 03:03:52 PM
Lol. Sorry didn't realize. Why is that? Is it specific to certain stores, or across the board on Google Express?
Google Express is like Amazon, so if the store has a nexus iin your state, tax will be charged
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 14, 2018, 03:04:36 PM
What is Directly Deals? Can someone pm me. thx
I think they only accept drop-offs in Lakewood, with no Delaware warehouse. If you can utilize a group like that, I can give you more information.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 14, 2018, 03:48:24 PM
MYS, just as an example (could be others are in the same boat) clearly did not staff up appropriately. When I messaged them complaining that 2 weeks is insane to have something delivered and not processed, they responded that they've already scanned 30k packages, and hope to be up to date by the end of the week (3rd week in a row they've tried to claim that). Guess what - more packages means more profits, more money to pay people to do the processing. High volume is a piss-poor excuse. Learn how to staff for peaks and valleys in demand.

Well said. They have been an utter disaster
Waiting over a week already to have checks sent to me
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 14, 2018, 04:18:27 PM
Well said. They have been an utter disaster
Waiting over a week already to have checks sent to me

Yes. And agreed high volume is terrible excuse.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 14, 2018, 04:25:09 PM
Waiting over a week already to have checks sent to me
This is a classic RED FLAG!!!
Yes. And agreed high volume is terrible excuse.
...and this is even a bigger RED FLAG!!!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 15, 2018, 03:05:26 PM
Lol. Sorry didn't realize. Why is that? Is it specific to certain stores, or across the board on Google Express?
HHGregg has a store or Warehouse in NJ, not in NY.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Afrages6 on December 15, 2018, 03:29:31 PM
This is a classic RED FLAG!!!...and this is even a bigger RED FLAG!!!
They obviously donít have nearly enough cash flow to cover the stuff coming in. Trying to sell off as much as possible quickly in order to be able to pay all the vendors.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 15, 2018, 11:25:40 PM
I saw that with MYS on the MacBook deals, but they don't charge tax on Google Express anyway.

We write that cause with google for example if to many people ship to one address its very risky on buyers part nothing to do with taxes same for canon deals they would likely cancel if you ship to Delaware
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on December 15, 2018, 11:27:21 PM
We write that cause with google for example if to many people ship to one address its very risky on buyers part nothing to do with taxes same for canon deals they would likely cancel if you ship to Delaware
can you explain the payment delays?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 16, 2018, 08:25:53 AM
Has anyone had any luck with BB lately? I haven't been able to get anything through since BF.
They are canceling for all. I have 2 friends also who tried buying with different Tax exempt # and nothing works. One of the buying groups told me that some peopel hacked in to the back end of Best Buy so they are very aggresive with canceling.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 16, 2018, 08:26:34 AM
We write that cause with google for example if to many people ship to one address its very risky on buyers part nothing to do with taxes same for canon deals they would likely cancel if you ship to Delaware
Thanks for getting involved on this Thread.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gingyguy on December 16, 2018, 08:42:34 AM
We write that cause with google for example if to many people ship to one address its very risky on buyers part nothing to do with taxes same for canon deals they would likely cancel if you ship to Delaware
not the greatest explanation when it doesnt come close to cover the costs of taxes
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on December 16, 2018, 09:40:20 AM
not the greatest explanation when it doesnt come close to cover the costs of taxes

Not sure why some here had an issue with this deal. Was very simple: Do Not Ship to Delaware and Do Not Pay Tax.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on December 16, 2018, 09:44:02 AM
not the greatest explanation when it doesnt come close to cover the costs of taxes
If you're in a state that had tax obviously the deal isn't for you
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on December 16, 2018, 03:47:34 PM
can you explain the payment delays?
+1

Been waiting for over one week for a payment.

I have to say that USA have been on top of the game. All the bf have been checked in. Yet MYS has been taking their time.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 16, 2018, 03:48:56 PM
not the greatest explanation when it doesnt come close to cover the costs of taxes
New York had no taxes so the commissions turned out to be about $15 apiece. The deal was obviously not for those that can only ship to NJ.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 16, 2018, 03:53:21 PM
+1

Been waiting for over one week for a payment.

I have to say that USA have been on top of the game. All the bf have been checked in. Yet MYS has been taking their time.
If you need payment immediately, I have had success with after requesting a check, chatting on the portal asking if they can send it immediately due to CC due and I have gotten it a few hours later.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on December 16, 2018, 04:23:25 PM
They are canceling for all. I have 2 friends also who tried buying with different Tax exempt # and nothing works. One of the buying groups told me that some peopel hacked in to the back end of Best Buy so they are very aggresive with canceling.

Has anyone been able to place orders using the buying groups' TE numbers? I've tried basically everything and only thing I can think of is they are blocking these individual TE accounts.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 16, 2018, 04:27:41 PM
Has anyone been able to place orders using the buying groups' TE numbers? I've tried basically everything and only thing I can think of is they are blocking these individual TE accounts.
Nothing to do with those TE numbers. Other TE numbers also don't go through. They just tightened up, that's all.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 17, 2018, 12:13:39 PM
Anyone else think it's a bit excessive that item delivered to DE 7-10 days ago are still not acknowledged as having been received?
Items delivered on 11/27 are still not check-in/acknowledged.
IMO that is unacceptable.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 17, 2018, 12:21:24 PM
Items delivered on 11/27 are still not check-in/acknowledged.
IMO that is unacceptable.
Are they still listing deals?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on December 17, 2018, 12:22:28 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 17, 2018, 12:23:30 PM
Yes
So they are three weeks behind and keep offering deals. We are past red flag status.  :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 17, 2018, 12:34:43 PM
So they are three weeks behind and keep offering deals. We are past red flag status.  :)
to be fair most item have been checked-in already (but not paid for.....).
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 17, 2018, 12:36:58 PM
So they are three weeks behind and keep offering deals. We are past red flag status.  :)
Not exactly / fully 3 weeks behind. Other items delivered after can have been processed already.

I have 1 $45 item delivered 12/3 not processed yet (last of my packages delivered before 12/14 waiting to be scanned), but a $350 item delivered on 12/10 was processed already.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 17, 2018, 12:56:52 PM
Not exactly / fully 3 weeks behind. Other items delivered after can have been processed already.

I have 1 $45 item delivered 12/3 not processed yet (last of my packages delivered before 12/14 waiting to be scanned), but a $350 item delivered on 12/10 was processed already.
Same for me. I have 2 relatively low value packages from 12/1 and 12/4 still waiting to be scanned, while some of my packages from last week have already been scanned and some haven't.

I had a really weird situation just now with a group. They said one of my packages had the wrong item. Based on what was supposed to be in that tracking number and the UPC they scanned in, it seems like it was supposed to be a regular iPad mini (ie wifi only) and instead Amazon sent the +cellular version. Now that's a mistake in my favor technically. But since they weren't buying that item, they don't want it at all and asked me to get a return label. Meanwhile, if it had arrived at my house I could surely sell it myself for an even bigger profit, but since it's in DE, I basically have no choice.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on December 17, 2018, 01:08:56 PM
Same for me. I have 2 relatively low value packages from 12/1 and 12/4 still waiting to be scanned, while some of my packages from last week have already been scanned and some haven't.

I had a really weird situation just now with a group. They said one of my packages had the wrong item. Based on what was supposed to be in that tracking number and the UPC they scanned in, it seems like it was supposed to be a regular iPad mini (ie wifi only) and instead Amazon sent the +cellular version. Now that's a mistake in my favor technically. But since they weren't buying that item, they don't want it at all and asked me to get a return label. Meanwhile, if it had arrived at my house I could surely sell it myself for an even bigger profit, but since it's in DE, I basically have no choice.

Have them ship it to you...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: US on December 17, 2018, 01:37:02 PM


Same for me. I have 2 relatively low value packages from 12/1 and 12/4 still waiting to be scanned, while some of my packages from last week have already been scanned and some haven't.
From what I understood that's because they sent all delivery's from BF weekend to NY to be scanned and processed, and for the same reason items sent now to Delaware are being checked in right away since their warehouse is basically empty from all deals on BF weekend.

Have them ship it to you...

+1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 17, 2018, 01:42:43 PM
From what I understood that's because they sent all delivery's from BF weekend to NY to be scanned and processed, and for the same reason items sent now to Delaware are being checked in right away since their warehouse is basically empty from all deals on BF weekend.

+1
have a bunch of stuff delivered wed/thu last week to DE that have not been checked in yet.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 17, 2018, 01:58:54 PM

if you understood the volume we deal with over other groups you would under stand we do apologize that things got mixed up as far as older and new packages that was a space issue which we bought a new Delaware warehouse to help fix this issue we are very over staffed for those concerned on that issue

as well for those saying red flag from the millions of dollars we've written out not one can say we've screwed you over we appreciate every buyers patience with this and acknowledge the things being said were not running away and were here to stay

if your waiting on a check contact support to have it fast tracked
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 17, 2018, 02:03:11 PM
if you understood the volume we deal with over other groups you would under stand we do apologize that things got mixed up as far as older and new packages that was a space issue which we bought a new Delaware warehouse to help fix this issue we are very over staffed for those concerned on that issue

as well for those saying red flag from the millions of dollars we've written out not one can say we've screwed you over we appreciate every buyers patience with this and acknowledge the things being said were not running away and were here to stay

if your waiting on a check contact support to have it fast tracked
Volume is not an excuse. That just means you're making a lot of money, and that you're not running your business well.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 17, 2018, 02:08:27 PM
as well for those saying red flag from the millions of dollars we've written out not one can say we've screwed you over we appreciate every buyers patience with this and acknowledge the things being said were not running away and were here to stay
No one said you screwed anyone over. Do millions in business does not mean anything. Your situation is a classic red flag. Slow down your orders if you can't keep up with them. It is that simple unless something else is at play.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Willie on December 17, 2018, 02:24:47 PM
Nothing to do with those TE numbers. Other TE numbers also don't go through. They just tightened up, that's all.
So no more bestbuy orders go through with TE?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 17, 2018, 02:34:02 PM
Slow down your orders if you can't keep up with them. It is that simple unless something else is at play.
also sent out payments right away if items take 2-3 weeks to check-in.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 17, 2018, 02:45:19 PM
No one said you screwed anyone over. Do millions in business does not mean anything. Your situation is a classic red flag. Slow down your orders if you can't keep up with them. It is that simple unless something else is at play.


When using the words ďred flagĒ thatís usually what that means but either way. No reason to slow down on our list to buy we provide a service for people to swipe there cards  everyone gets paid and stuff gets delivered delays are normal in this business this time of year
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mordyk on December 17, 2018, 03:25:13 PM

When using the words ďred flagĒ thatís usually what that means but either way. No reason to slow down on our list to buy we provide a service for people to swipe there cards  everyone gets paid and stuff gets delivered delays are normal in this business this time of year
its not a service, its a business transactions where both sides benefit. service means you are doing them a favor
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 17, 2018, 03:36:31 PM
also sent out payments right away if items take 2-3 weeks to check-in.

contact support like the others to have it pushed out
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 17, 2018, 03:42:49 PM


service means you are doing them a favor
I don't think that's accurate.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: puddles on December 17, 2018, 03:44:31 PM
Am I the only nervous to use Amazon to ship to DE? I am scared to get banned...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Willie on December 17, 2018, 04:07:00 PM
Am I the only nervous to use Amazon to ship to DE? I am scared to get banned...
have spent thousands shipping to DE with no problem
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 17, 2018, 04:08:39 PM
have spent thousands shipping to DE with no problem
+1, haven't seen anyone having issues without multiple accounts.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on December 17, 2018, 04:08:58 PM
I don't think that's accurate.
If his definition of service is correct is debatable, but buying groups are definitely not doing a service by getting you points. Itís laughable the way he said that.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 17, 2018, 04:16:26 PM
If his definition of service is correct is debatable, but buying groups are definitely not doing a service by getting you points. Itís laughable the way he said that.
+1. It's very simple. If MYS would state at the outset that you will receive payment 15 days after your order is delivered to our warehouse, everyone would send their DE orders elsewhere. So for them to take those 15+ days and think it's fine is dishonest, plain and simple.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 17, 2018, 04:20:12 PM
+1. It's very simple. If MYS would state at the outset that you will receive payment 15 days after your order is delivered to our warehouse, everyone would send their DE orders elsewhere. So for them to take those 15+ days and think it's fine is dishonest, plain and simple.
well you know its happening so if you dont like it just dont order for them
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Hjay on December 17, 2018, 04:39:07 PM
Items delivered on 11/27 are still not check-in/acknowledged.
IMO that is unacceptable.

+1 Item delivered on 11/28 & still waitingÖ
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 17, 2018, 04:47:39 PM
+1. It's very simple. If MYS would state at the outset that you will receive payment 15 days after your order is delivered to our warehouse, everyone would send their DE orders elsewhere. So for them to take those 15+ days and think it's fine is dishonest, plain and simple.
Thread rule from page 1: No needless bashing of particular groups. All the groups are swamped right now. I have plenty of things from USA that haven't been checked in from the 7th so the 15+ days now time of year is common for all. MYS has been great in my experience as I sometimes get receipts from them at crazy times of the night. The fact that @Markmann20 can come on here and absorb the bashing definitely says something as well.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on December 17, 2018, 04:47:58 PM
if you understood the volume we deal with over other groups you would under stand we do apologize that things got mixed up as far as older and new packages that was a space issue which we bought a new Delaware warehouse to help fix this issue we are very over staffed for those concerned on that issue

as well for those saying red flag from the millions of dollars we've written out not one can say we've screwed you over we appreciate every buyers patience with this and acknowledge the things being said were not running away and were here to stay

if your waiting on a check contact support to have it fast tracked
Speaking of being understaffed, look into hiring an editor, or at least a punctuation mark or two, so your posts are readable.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 17, 2018, 04:51:32 PM
No need to go personal.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 17, 2018, 04:54:30 PM
+1. It's very simple. If MYS would state at the outset that you will receive payment 15 days after your order is delivered to our warehouse, everyone would send their DE orders elsewhere. So for them to take those 15+ days and think it's fine is dishonest, plain and simple.

15 days never happened #FakeNews
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 17, 2018, 04:55:47 PM
Speaking of being understaffed, look into hiring an editor, or at least a punctuation mark or two, so your posts are readable.

Im sorry ill work on my English!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on December 17, 2018, 04:57:16 PM
No need to go personal.
It's not in any way personal. When you write on behalf of a company, it's vital to be understood. It's common for someone with bad writing skills to have someone on retainer to edit emails and communication.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 17, 2018, 05:06:24 PM
It's not in any way personal. When you write on behalf of a company, it's vital to be understood. It's common for someone with bad writing skills to have someone on retainer to edit emails and communication.

I normally have someone to proof read stuff I write to fix the grammar didn't think I needed him for this stuff I guess I do
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 17, 2018, 05:10:19 PM
15 days never happened #FakeNews
Is that so? I have an order that was delivered to your warehouse 11/27/20118 3:51pm. It was scanned in 12/14/2018 11:05am. So you're right, that's actually 16+ days, and that's before any delays in getting a check. I have another item that was delivered 12/01/2018 11:30am, and has yet to be scanned. That's also 16+ days, and counting.

ETA: Lol, the second one was scanned it literally exactly as I posted this.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Abe10001 on December 17, 2018, 05:12:47 PM
Thread rule from page 1: No needless bashing of particular groups. All the groups are swamped right now. I have plenty of things from USA that haven't been checked in from the 7th so the 15+ days now time of year is common for all. MYS has been great in my experience as I sometimes get receipts from them at crazy times of the night. The fact that @Markmann20 can come on here and absorb the bashing definitely says something as well.

I sent two high-value items to DE took one item 6 days and the other 12 days. E-check was requested and took 2-3 days. The only reason I was nervous was because of comments on this board....MYS has been very accommodating and responsive. Everyone that purchased over BF can understand the volume that these groups generated. Iím not Here to say one group is better than the next but it could be that this avenue is not for all.
Thereís definitely a certain level of risk/reward but at the same time be realistic about your expectations. If there was a bounced check that would be a red flag but just coming here to bash a place because you feel you can run their business better is that fair to anyone.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 17, 2018, 05:15:35 PM
He's talking about check delays, not scanning in.
He was responding directly to me. I wrote "you will receive payment 15 days after your order is delivered to our warehouse". You can't receive payment for an item that isn't scanned in, right? I phrased it that way to roll together the 2 issues that people have been complaining about. It goes hand in hand, because the bottom line is, the buyers care about how long it takes to get paid, relative to when they bought the items. Since the time from order to delivery at the warehouse is not in the buying groups hands, those 2 issues are the ones a buying group has to be on top of.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 17, 2018, 05:16:14 PM
I normally have someone to proof read stuff I write to fix the grammar didn't think I needed him for this stuff I guess I do
Some here are sticklers about grammar. Either way that would not be a red flag.  :)
I think your customers appreciate you answering questions.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Willie on December 17, 2018, 05:19:26 PM
It's not in any way personal. When you write on behalf of a company, it's vital to be understood. It's common for someone with bad writing skills to have someone on retainer to edit emails and communication.
If i were you I would just use another group because it sounds like his english is turning you into an angry person
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 17, 2018, 05:46:30 PM
He was responding directly to me. I wrote "you will receive payment 15 days after your order is delivered to our warehouse". You can't receive payment for an item that isn't scanned in, right? I phrased it that way to roll together the 2 issues that people have been complaining about. It goes hand in hand, because the bottom line is, the buyers care about how long it takes to get paid, relative to when they bought the items. Since the time from order to delivery at the warehouse is not in the buying groups hands, those 2 issues are the ones a buying group has to be on top of.

A buyer is always more then welcome to message us to speed up a check as stated earlier
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 17, 2018, 05:53:42 PM
A buyer is always more then welcome to message us to speed up a check as stated earlier
What does speeding up a check have to do with taking 15+ days to scan in an item?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Miami on December 17, 2018, 06:06:30 PM
From what I heard,
 the workers in DE for MYS were practically buried alive due to the overload of packages and lack of space. As soon as they moved to the new warehouse everything started to get scanned in much faster.
In regards to being slow on payments, I have never had an issue. Checks always clear and have never been postdated. I'm sure they have hundreds(if not thousands) of check requests. Each check probably has a verification process to make sure the numbers add up. It probably doesn't hel0 thatany people request multiple checks, each of which needs to go through this process. If you want the money without the wait, go to a drop-off and they can give you a check for DE as well
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 17, 2018, 06:12:53 PM
What does speeding up a check have to do with taking 15+ days to scan in an item?

its not like we are not working around the clock to get all the boxes scanned in. As I stated earlier it was a space issue we got a new warehouse a lot larger and should not occur again.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 17, 2018, 06:13:48 PM
A buyer is always more then welcome to message us to speed up a check as stated earlier
If you speed up one check won't that just delay another person's check?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 17, 2018, 06:27:12 PM
If you speed up one check won't that just delay another person's check?

Yes little bit,

but if someone tells us he can't wait we have no choice but to do so.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on December 17, 2018, 07:37:34 PM
Yes little bit,

but if someone tells us he can't wait we have no choice but to do so.

What are you doing in Connecticut?

I said it way earlier but you are making way more work for yourself with the check delays as everyone requests multiple checks now as each item comes in.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 17, 2018, 07:55:59 PM
What are you doing in Connecticut?


I made this account years ago and doesn't let me change it
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 17, 2018, 07:58:53 PM
I said it way earlier but you are making way more work for yourself with the check delays as everyone requests multiple checks now as each item comes in.
+1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 17, 2018, 07:59:40 PM
What are you doing in Connecticut?


I made this account years ago and doesn't let me change it
Go to Profile-modify profile-forum profile, and switch location
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 17, 2018, 07:59:57 PM
As soon as they moved to the new warehouse everything started to get scanned in much faster.
When did they move? Lots of items delivered last week and not scanned in yet.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 17, 2018, 09:52:49 PM
When did they move? Lots of items delivered last week and not scanned in yet.

We moved end of last week
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 17, 2018, 09:53:24 PM
Go to Profile-modify profile-forum profile, and switch location

Thx Iíll check it out
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: MRTHNMAN on December 17, 2018, 10:05:36 PM
I'm new to this , stupid question , wouldn't using the TE numbers provided by a group be an instant red flag to BB ?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on December 17, 2018, 11:10:19 PM
What are you doing in Connecticut?

Why is it your business where he is?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on December 17, 2018, 11:17:12 PM
Thread rule from page 1: No needless bashing of particular groups. All the groups are swamped right now. I have plenty of things from USA that haven't been checked in from the 7th so the 15+ days now time of year is common for all. MYS has been great in my experience as I sometimes get receipts from them at crazy times of the night. The fact that @Markmann20 can come on here and absorb the bashing definitely says something as well.
Agreed. Still waiting for USA to scan in from early last week.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on December 17, 2018, 11:36:04 PM
Hi,

How do you people get orders thru to these buying groups address, I try with Best Buy or Walmart and all my orders get instantly cancelled. please help me.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 17, 2018, 11:39:00 PM
Mostly Amazon.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: aygart on December 17, 2018, 11:51:44 PM
And suddenly all the low post users reappear....
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Hjay on December 17, 2018, 11:57:47 PM
I said it way earlier but you are making way more work for yourself with the check delays as everyone requests multiple checks now as each item comes in.

This is true. Iíve started requesting checks as soon as I have a balance because itís been taking a week to get a check.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 18, 2018, 12:46:46 AM
Iíll be honest, it was taking a bit long, but still, have yet to hear a report of any bounced checks, and they will issue a check for your full balance  on the spot at drop-offs, so for now, Iím sticking with MYS. Still price match to other groups, and have a pretty efficient system, all things considered. Also, all my stuff has been paid for through last week.

And you donít need to upload tracking numbers!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on December 18, 2018, 12:49:57 AM
One of MYS's biggest pro's is that they'll do a pickup at your house for 1k worth of merchandise. I would never want to order these stuff if I would have to shlep it somewhere, I guess the same is with many people. they did have a staffing issue with pickups last week but bh it was resolved
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 18, 2018, 04:56:29 AM
One of MYS's biggest pro's is that they'll do a pickup at your house for 1k worth of merchandise. I would never want to order these stuff if I would have to shlep it somewhere, I guess the same is with many people. they did have a staffing issue with pickups last week but bh it was resolved
+1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 18, 2018, 06:42:19 AM
This is true. Iíve started requesting checks as soon as I have a balance because itís been taking a week to get a check.
why dont you just pick it up from a drop off location?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 18, 2018, 07:43:43 AM
So no more bestbuy orders go through with TE?
I know someone that was succesful in buying from Best Buy just the other day after not being able to purchase.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 18, 2018, 07:45:39 AM
Anyone have an issue with MYS deducting money because of a claim of a previous overpayment.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on December 18, 2018, 08:01:42 AM
Anyone have an issue with MYS deducting money because of a claim of a previous overpayment.
why is that an issue? If you were underpaid you would want your money back
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on December 18, 2018, 09:02:56 AM
why is that an issue? If you were underpaid you would want your money back
Yes but when I asked 3 times to tell me what exactly the overpayment was for I never got an answer
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on December 18, 2018, 09:16:06 AM
Yes but when I asked 3 times to tell me what exactly the overpayment was for I never got an answer
thats a different story
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on December 18, 2018, 09:18:11 AM
Other than that  I have been very happy with them
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 18, 2018, 09:42:01 AM
What was the overpayment amount?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mordyk on December 18, 2018, 09:50:17 AM
Anyone have an issue with MYS deducting money because of a claim of a previous overpayment.
they always have weird stuff. including " never got the item even if it shows delivered.  very fishy. i never had it with other buying groups
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 18, 2018, 10:13:29 AM
Yes but when I asked 3 times to tell me what exactly the overpayment was for I never got an answer
That's not right.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 18, 2018, 10:53:22 AM
Yes but when I asked 3 times to tell me what exactly the overpayment was for I never got an answer

Was probably from a commission bump
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Hjay on December 18, 2018, 11:09:42 AM
Anyone have an issue with MYS deducting money because of a claim of a previous overpayment.

Yes but when I asked 3 times to tell me what exactly the overpayment was for I never got an answer

+2

Was probably from a commission bump

& wasnít from a commission bump. We should be told why there was a deduction not have to search ourself & after asking three times still not get an answer.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on December 18, 2018, 11:53:29 AM
they always have weird stuff. including " never got the item even if it shows delivered.  very fishy. i never had it with other buying groups
Had it with USA as well...

It's by all buying groups of things being misdelivered.

Issue is that as soon as that happens it's a pain to deal with as in my experience no one is readily there to help you. They just give vague excuses.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 18, 2018, 11:59:42 AM
Had it with USA as well...

It's by all buying groups of things being misdelivered.

Issue is that as soon as that happens it's a pain to deal with as in my experience no one is readily there to help you. They just give vague excuses.
Truthfully, Iíve had them overreport things as well, and theyíre impossible to get through to.

How do I proceed from there? Never claim that money?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 18, 2018, 12:08:26 PM
Truthfully, Iíve had them overreport things as well, and theyíre impossible to get through to.

How do I proceed from there? Never claim that money?
It's possible they price-matched a commission or bonus that another group was offering (that you weren't necessarily aware of).

If you are feeling overly honest, you can always email them (or open a support ticket) for the overage, the same exact way you would do if they C"V undercut you.

 
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 18, 2018, 12:30:54 PM
Anyone have an issue with MYS deducting money because of a claim of a previous overpayment.
loggin online and make the cheshbon yourself
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 18, 2018, 12:38:13 PM
loggin online and make the cheshbon yourself
Depending on what buying volume youíre doing, you should also really have your own spreadsheet tracking everything (orders, deliveries, spending, commission, profits etc.).
When you get an alert that items were received by warehouse, you can then quickly match up all the numbers.

Shouldnít need more then a few minutes a day updating it.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: TheSlightEdge on December 18, 2018, 12:43:38 PM
It's all a matter of time before Amazon starts banning all you guys. The groups are getting way too big and products are selling out in a matter of minutes/hours.
For other sites perhaps it's worth the risk, but Amazon account is way too valuable.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: puddles on December 18, 2018, 01:06:52 PM
It's all a matter of time before Amazon starts banning all you guys. The groups are getting way too big and products are selling out in a matter of minutes/hours.
For other sites perhaps it's worth the risk, but Amazon account is way too valuable.
I would agree with this and for that reason stay away from buying Amazon
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on December 18, 2018, 01:12:49 PM
I would agree with this and for that reason stay away from buying Amazon
It's all a matter of time before Amazon starts banning all you guys. The groups are getting way too big and products are selling out in a matter of minutes/hours.
For other sites perhaps it's worth the risk, but Amazon account is way too valuable.
Agreed. I stay away from amazon as well. Ill only order items under the limit and deliver it to my house, and only when the commissions are worth it. I learned for the google shutdown a couple of years ago (personally was not shutdown) to never play around with any company that I would have hard time living without
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 18, 2018, 02:28:05 PM
Amazon approaching 50% of all online sales last I heard. Wonder if they even know or care abt the groups? Either way I'll continue to hog. Between 5% card and portals I'm making too much not to get in on it Į\_(ツ)_/Į. I'll use someone else's account who isn't in buying groups if I ever get banned
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Hjay on December 18, 2018, 02:48:58 PM
Depending on what buying volume youíre doing, you should also really have your own spreadsheet tracking everything (orders, deliveries, spending, commission, profits etc.).
When you get an alert that items were received by warehouse, you can then quickly match up all the numbers.

Shouldnít need more then a few minutes a day updating it.

When a few days after you got money suddenly you get a deduction & you have to go through everything again to see what isnít the amount that you had put in, it can take quite awhile.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 18, 2018, 02:53:12 PM
When a few days after you got money suddenly you get a deduction & you have to go through everything again to see what isnít the amount that you had put in, it can take quite awhile.
Knowing that you put it in right the first time (order date (to make looking back for their email easy), purchase amount, expected commission), then when you get a receipt, you verify that they processed it right.

Because, again, if the error is not in your favor, you'd be sure to notice that right away and get it corrected.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 18, 2018, 03:49:33 PM
It's possible they price-matched a commission or bonus that another group was offering (that you weren't necessarily aware of).

If you are feeling overly honest, you can always email them (or open a support ticket) for the overage, the same exact way you would do if they C"V undercut you.
Did this and got it fixed, thanks
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 18, 2018, 03:57:17 PM
Amazon approaching 50% of all online sales last I heard. Wonder if they even know or care abt the groups? Either way I'll continue to hog. Between 5% card and portals I'm making too much not to get in on it Į\_(ツ)_/Į. I'll use someone else's account who isn't in buying groups if I ever get banned
+1,000,000

Although Best Buy has more deals, Amazon deals are so super easy and generally VERY profitable, between stacking various gift card deals, portals, codes, coupons, and great credit card categories. They also almost never cancel, and get shipped to DE no problem.

If they shut me down? Nu nu, it was definitely worth it. I can't get anything from eBay on a personal account, but you know something? The many thousands I have profited and keep profiting (this is not counting points!) has put any inconvenience of not having an eBay account to shame. I can buy and sell from many of my friends'/relatives' accounts, which I do on a fairly regular basis. I also can often purchase with guest checkout, myself. If Amazon does ever end up banning me, I'll still be laughing all the way to the bank. I wouldn't sacrifice thousands (or tens of thousands) in profits for the convenience of Amazon Prime!

Just one more thought, although I can never get through an order for a buying group, with immediate cancellation emails, the few times I have made a personal purchase with Best Buy recently, the transaction went through no problem.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 18, 2018, 04:18:11 PM
Great way to put it. You can pay $100/year and risk the ban or $5000/year or whatever in opportunity cost for a no risk account.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on December 18, 2018, 04:21:45 PM
Great way to put it. You can pay $100/year and risk the ban or $5000/year or whatever in opportunity cost for a no risk account.
Or keep buying .edu emails on ebay to get free prime for 6months... (Make sure to change email to desired one as soon as account is created).
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on December 18, 2018, 04:47:25 PM
Amazon approaching 50% of all online sales last I heard. Wonder if they even know or care abt the groups? Either way I'll continue to hog. Between 5% card and portals I'm making too much not to get in on it Į\_(ツ)_/Į. I'll use someone else's account who isn't in buying groups if I ever get banned

I know we can't discuss portals... but I have yet to find one that gives for electronics. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 18, 2018, 04:51:00 PM
I know we can't discuss portals... but I have yet to find one that gives for electronics. Am I missing something?
+1, besides for Amazon devices.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 18, 2018, 05:18:01 PM
I know we can't discuss portals... but I have yet to find one that gives for electronics. Am I missing something?
Yes amazon devices but the payout is often close to 10%, and once in a blue moon something else like apple watches and fitbits counting as watches/jewelry
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Hjay on December 18, 2018, 05:30:49 PM
Knowing that you put it in right the first time (order date (to make looking back for their email easy), purchase amount, expected commission), then when you get a receipt, you verify that they processed it right.

Because, again, if the error is not in your favor, you'd be sure to notice that right away and get it corrected.

After you put all your info in correctly & you got a receipt which matches that, you suddenly get a deduction, now you have to go back through everything & fig out what went wrong. So everything matched up & then the deduction came with no explanation or warning.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 18, 2018, 06:30:20 PM
Was probably from a commission bump
When you notice it, mention the specific error you found to the buyer. Open the line of communication.

 ďHi, it has come to our attention that we mistakenly overpaid you $__ commission on Item__ from Receipt #__. You will see this as a deduction on your account balance. Please feel free to reach out to Support if you think this to be in error. Thank youĒ

After you put all your info in correctly & you got a receipt which matches that, you suddenly get a deduction, now you have to go back through everything & fig out what went wrong. So everything matched up & then the deduction came with no explanation or warning.

Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Hjay on December 18, 2018, 06:35:03 PM
When you notice it, mention the specific error you found to the buyer. Open the line of communication.

 ďHi, it has come to our attention that we mistakenly overpaid you $__ commission on Item__ from Receipt #__. You will see this as a deduction on your account balance. Please feel free to reach out to Support if you think this to be in error. Thank youĒ

Exactly whatís being requested. BH Mark is a mensch & took care of the problem when chat was giving me the runaround, but this is something that should be taken care of.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: US on December 18, 2018, 06:53:58 PM
When you notice it, mention the specific error you found to the buyer. Open the line of communication.

 ďHi, it has come to our attention that we mistakenly overpaid you $__ commission on Item__ from Receipt #__. You will see this as a deduction on your account balance. Please feel free to reach out to Support if you think this to be in error. Thank youĒ
+1000
Can't understand why you don't send out an email if you withdraw money from someone's account.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 19, 2018, 10:30:28 AM
I can't get anything from eBay on a personal account, but you know something? The many thousands I have profited and keep profiting (this is not counting points!) has put any inconvenience of not having an eBay account to shame.
IME Ebay is one of the most profitable pointswise. Depending on the seller obviously I have been able to get unlimited orders through with guest checkout, diff Paypals and CC's, and email+1. My Ups river actually called me a few minutes ago that he has 15 boxes (from ebay) that he wants to deliver now. Antonline is literally the most reliable.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 19, 2018, 10:40:12 AM
From what I heard,
In regards to being slow on payments, I have never had an issue. Checks always clear and have never been postdated. I'm sure they have hundreds(if not thousands) of check requests. Each check probably has a verification process to make sure the numbers add up. It probably doesn't hel0 thatany people request multiple checks, each of which needs to go through this process. If you want the money without the wait, go to a drop-off and they can give you a check for DE as well
What kind of manual verification are you referring to?

The website where you request checks has verification / validation built in. You can't request checks for more then your available balance.

All the payment info is sitting in the database tables ready to get dealt with, it's just a matter of them wanting (or as the problem is, not wanting) to do it all right away.
At the end of the day, you can batch export / print all the waiting checks (but then still need to sit and stuff envelopes, assuming you're not using an Automated Payment Service), and same (actually much quicker, since its just batch export data, then import / upload data back) for eChecks.


if your waiting on a check contact support to have it fast tracked
I tried this soon after you posted, and other then a "Will do my best" response from Support, got nothing (with now being almost 48 hours later).
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Willie on December 19, 2018, 01:05:15 PM
IME Ebay is one of the most profitable pointswise. Depending on the seller obviously I have been able to get unlimited orders through with guest checkout, diff Paypals and CC's, and email+1. My Ups river actually called me a few minutes ago that he has 15 boxes (from ebay) that he wants to deliver now. Antonline is literally the most reliable.
Ive gotten 2 ebay accounts shut down already from purchasing over quantity limit. on each of your orders you use the same email +1 or u use different emails?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Willie on December 19, 2018, 01:10:26 PM
seperate question: Has anyone tried adding a billing address with the deleware address onto their banking information so that orders from walmart and target dont get cancelled when shipping to deleware
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 19, 2018, 01:59:34 PM
Was probably from a commission bump
You confused me majorly when you separated the games from the console. You may have messed up on one of them (from Google Express), you should go check. I may owe you money.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 19, 2018, 02:00:54 PM
You confused me majorly when you separated the games from the console. You may have messed up on one of them (from Google Express), you should go check. I may owe you money.

message me which one
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 19, 2018, 02:41:44 PM
What's the current way to know bb orders to de are going to go through? Is preparing on order page still a thing or is that no longer a guarantee.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 19, 2018, 02:50:59 PM
What's the current way to know bb orders to de are going to go through? Is preparing on order page still a thing or is that no longer a guarantee.
No longer a guarantee..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on December 19, 2018, 03:11:02 PM
What's the current way to know bb orders to de are going to go through? Is preparing on order page still a thing or is that no longer a guarantee.

Does that mean you can't get through by using TE number?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 19, 2018, 03:11:56 PM
Does that mean you can't get through by using TE number?
no DE is preferable and more profitable. I usually fail tho
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 19, 2018, 03:54:06 PM
IME Ebay is one of the most profitable pointswise. Depending on the seller obviously I have been able to get unlimited orders through with guest checkout, diff Paypals and CC's, and email+1. My Ups river actually called me a few minutes ago that he has 15 boxes (from ebay) that he wants to deliver now. Antonline is literally the most reliable.
Agreed about everything, but what do you mean by ďone of the most profitableĒ? There are only like 4 regular merchants lol
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: stooges44 on December 19, 2018, 04:02:57 PM
Ive gotten 2 ebay accounts shut down already from purchasing over quantity limit. on each of your orders you use the same email +1 or u use different emails?

Same here

@Mootkim what's your secret? What's email+1?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 19, 2018, 04:08:41 PM
Ive gotten 2 ebay accounts shut down already from purchasing over quantity limit. on each of your orders you use the same email +1 or u use different emails?
Same +1. Last time they shut down my +7 through +11 emails so this time I started from +12.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 19, 2018, 04:11:08 PM


Antonline is literally the most reliable.

Antonline has said he loves buying groups, and he specifically automatically marks the item as shipped as soon as he can so that eBay can't cancel the order.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: stooges44 on December 19, 2018, 04:11:17 PM
Same +1. Last time they shut down my +7 through +11 emails so this time I started from +12.

What does +1 mean?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 19, 2018, 04:12:44 PM
email+1@gmail.com
email+2@gmail.com

The same as email@gmail.com
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 19, 2018, 04:19:25 PM
What does +1 mean?
Basically instead of opening an entirely new email address, you can just put in your regular email and then plus any number (janedoe@gmail.com, janedoe+1@gmail.com,and so on in the numbers) ebay or even bestbuy would consider it a new account, however, all the emails would still be delivered to your regular email at janedoe@gmail.com.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 19, 2018, 04:20:13 PM

Antonline has said he loves buying groups, and he specifically automatically marks the item as shipped as soon as he can so that eBay can't cancel the order.
That is great! where did you hear that from?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: stooges44 on December 19, 2018, 04:20:30 PM
Basically instead of opening an entirely new email address, you can just put in your regular email and then plus any number (janedoe@gmail.com, janedoe+1@gmail.com,and so on in the numbers) ebay or even bestbuy would consider it a new account, however, all the emails would still be delivered to your regular email at janedoe@gmail.com.

email+1@gmail.com
email+2@gmail.com

The same as email@gmail.com

I knew you could do that with "." i didn't know with "+x" also, cool
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 19, 2018, 04:21:49 PM
Agreed about everything, but what do you mean by ďone of the most profitableĒ? There are only like 4 regular merchants lol
Not understanding the question. If you can order an infinite amount of an item that can range nearly $1000 per order, I would consider that to be pretty profitable.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 19, 2018, 04:22:14 PM
I knew you could do that with "." i didn't know with "+x" also, cool
Same idea but unlimited with "+".
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LETSGOCUSTOM on December 19, 2018, 04:26:25 PM

Antonline has said he loves buying groups, and he specifically automatically marks the item as shipped as soon as he can so that eBay can't cancel the order.
Ant online can very well be a buying group owner
Who is just reselling products Ebay pays to put on sale
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LETSGOCUSTOM on December 19, 2018, 04:27:08 PM
Ant online can very well be a buying group owner
Who is just reselling products Ebay pays to put on sale
This was a scheme done in the early buying group days Idk if itís still done
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 19, 2018, 04:28:36 PM
Ant online can very well be a buying group owner
Who is just reselling products Ebay pays to put on sale
Not a bad idea... @Markmann20
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 19, 2018, 04:39:36 PM
no DE is preferable and more profitable. I usually fail tho
Why is de more profitable for BBY?
This was a scheme done in the early buying group days Idk if itís still done
Still done, but mostly eliminated the need for the groups.. it's more profitable that way
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 19, 2018, 04:41:16 PM
Ant online can very well be a buying group owner
Who is just reselling products Ebay pays to put on sale
He's a direct Microsoft retailer.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 19, 2018, 06:56:56 PM
Why is de more profitable for BBY?
certs
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 19, 2018, 06:58:25 PM

Antonline has said he loves buying groups, and he specifically automatically marks the item as shipped as soon as he can so that eBay can't cancel the order.
have definitely had most success with Antonline but not 100% success. Just had 7x cancels / refunds on PlayStation classic a few weeks ago. Though to your point maybe it was ebay not them.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 19, 2018, 06:59:10 PM
Same +1. Last time they shut down my +7 through +11 emails so this time I started from +12.
same system here
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 19, 2018, 07:17:35 PM
have definitely had most success with Antonline but not 100% success. Just had 7x cancels / refunds on PlayStation classic a few weeks ago. Though to your point maybe it was ebay not them.
The PlayStation classics was the one deal within the last couple years that seems to have been cancelled for everyone.. it's pretty funny cuz the buying groups didn't want them at that price.. I wonder if one of them reached out to him and ask them to cancel...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sams on December 19, 2018, 09:18:34 PM
The Spider-Mans were cancelled too
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 19, 2018, 09:58:53 PM
Ant online can very well be a buying group owner
Who is just reselling products Ebay pays to put on sale
I have had very bad experience with Antonline. I feel they are not a good and trusted Seller.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 19, 2018, 10:01:55 PM
+2

& wasnít from a commission bump. We should be told why there was a deduction not have to search ourself & after asking three times still not get an answer.

I tried so hard to get a clear answer and they refuse to respond in a normal way. They just say they fixed the over payment. I wrote them that I do not see a over payment. They respond again with some nonsense answer.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 19, 2018, 10:05:07 PM
Was probably from a commission bump
No it was not a commission bump. I checked the receipt a few times and could not figure out why you deducted $50.00. The proper way is to show which receipt and why you made a over payment. Something about not being able to respond in a normal way is not right.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on December 19, 2018, 10:44:26 PM
No it was not a commission bump. I checked the receipt a few times and could not figure out why you deducted $50.00. The proper way is to show which receipt and why you made a over payment. Something about not being able to respond in a normal way is not right.
+1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 19, 2018, 11:46:03 PM
No it was not a commission bump. I checked the receipt a few times and could not figure out why you deducted $50.00. The proper way is to show which receipt and why you made a over payment. Something about not being able to respond in a normal way is not right.

According to my research in to yours the support team provided info regarding the difference. Feel free to reach out to me to go over we are here to help and not hiding nor stealing money at any time
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on December 19, 2018, 11:53:33 PM
The Spider-Mans were cancelled too
They canceled them because they knew they can get more for them. They relisted it with a bundle for a bit more
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on December 19, 2018, 11:55:10 PM

Antonline has said he loves buying groups, and he specifically automatically marks the item as shipped as soon as he can so that eBay can't cancel the order.
Heard the same. Not sure why ebay doesnít remove them if they donít want the orders through. Whatever...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 20, 2018, 12:43:52 AM

Antonline has said he loves buying groups, and he specifically automatically marks the item as shipped as soon as he can so that eBay can't cancel the order.
Where did you hear this from? Thatís pretty amazing. Btw itís a company Atlanta Network of Technology. I always get them through and have never had a problem but a friend of mine lost money on a shipment that didnít come, and he couldnít win the PayPal case
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 20, 2018, 12:44:26 AM
Still done, but mostly eliminated the need for the groups.. it's more profitable that way
Why isnít that pure fraud that can land the perp in jail?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Definitions on December 20, 2018, 04:00:40 AM
Where did you hear this from?
I heard something along those lines from the worker in the Lakewood warehouse.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 20, 2018, 04:21:45 AM
I heard something along those lines from the worker in the Lakewood warehouse.
That is really cool. At the MYS dropoff? Need to find out more
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 20, 2018, 07:15:49 AM
Where did you hear this from? Thatís pretty amazing. Btw itís a company Atlanta Network of Technology. I always get them through and have never had a problem but a friend of mine lost money on a shipment that didnít come, and he couldnít win the PayPal case
An email someone got from him.

I had an issue with them too (my box was missing three out of five Xboxes) and won an amex dispute because antonline didn't respond to them.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 20, 2018, 11:57:10 AM
USA doing what USA does. #PS4CLASSIC
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 20, 2018, 11:58:43 AM
?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 20, 2018, 12:59:26 PM
USA doing what USA does. #PS4CLASSIC
Yup. Let the fun begin! ::)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 20, 2018, 01:00:46 PM
USA doing what USA does. #PS4CLASSIC
Yup. Let the fun begin! ::)
What's happening?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 20, 2018, 01:01:42 PM
What's happening?
Trying to get everyone to return PS4ís
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Don Will on December 20, 2018, 01:16:38 PM
USA doing what USA does. #PS4CLASSIC
USA is a S*** Show. Forcing people to return an item and not honor their price
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 20, 2018, 02:04:34 PM
USA is a S*** Show. Forcing people to return an item and not honor their price
The new 74.99 price or the 99.99 price?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 20, 2018, 03:41:15 PM
The new 74.99 price or the 99.99 price?
The new one. The item dropped in price and they don't want it at $75 either
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 20, 2018, 03:48:04 PM
The new one. The item dropped in price and they don't want it at $75 either

Bigger issue is that they are still not telling anyone anything waiting for drop off and then making a ruckus... At the very least inform people with as much info as you can....
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 20, 2018, 04:31:35 PM
USA doing what USA does. #PS4CLASSIC
USA is a S*** Show. Forcing people to return an item and not honor their price
Please no bashing of groups here.
I'd like to keep this thread open.


Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 20, 2018, 04:34:46 PM
Please no bashing of groups here.
I'd like to keep this thread open.
Just post what they did without the language.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 20, 2018, 04:37:10 PM


Just post what they did without the language.
Trying to get everyone to return PS4ís
Ridiculous IMO, than people bash the competition when they say you only have to up 10 days, it's still 10 days....
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 20, 2018, 04:40:25 PM
So basically the deal was so lucrative originally at $99 that they were offering $3 per unit and then it was only lucrative at $75 but without passing off any commission, and now it is not even worth it at all for them??  ???
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 20, 2018, 04:51:27 PM
Ridiculous IMO, than people bash the competition when they say you only have to up 10 days, it's still 10 days....
+1, one of the many reasons i never touched USA. Didn't like their general attitude to their buyers, which is pretty evident in their terms and communication.

The only issue I had with MYS (besides DE delays) is when the price of the item dropped and they updated their system to reflect the new price they paid + commission, and I had to ask them to manually change it to the original price.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 20, 2018, 04:52:24 PM


The only issue I had with MYS (besides DE delays) is when the price of the item dropped and they updated their system to reflect the new price they paid + commission, and I had to ask them to manually change it to the original price.
There's no other way, maybe a PITA, but they need to
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 20, 2018, 05:48:22 PM
Ridiculous IMO, than people bash the competition when they say you only have to up 10 days, it's still 10 days....
To quote CM, but officer the other guy was speeding even faster than me. The existence of 'worse' groups does not absolve a 'better' group from criticism where warranted.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 20, 2018, 05:51:37 PM
To quote CM, but officer the other guy was speeding even faster than me. The existence of 'worse' groups does not absolve a 'better' group from criticism where warranted.
This is the reason for it, you know how many people will be trying to dump this item on MYS of they didn't have the policy? That would be a $25+ dollar loss for them per piece for something they never to responsibly for them.
And trust me plenty of people will be trying to dump them on them even with the policy.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 20, 2018, 08:01:09 PM
I think this current PS classic saga is an indicator of the overall attitude the buying groups have towards buyers. Today its the PS Classic, next week it will be something else. What will happen if the groups start buying the 128GB ipad again at 349.99? are they gunna want proof of purchase that it wasn't bought at $329, cuz chas v'shalem buyers should make $10? The bottom line is they treat buyers like garbage. Most of their "Commission Match" policies are BS, especially when the driver/guy at drop off doesn't have the ability to put in correct commission.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: stooges44 on December 20, 2018, 08:20:56 PM
I think this current PS classic saga is an indicator of the overall attitude the buying groups have towards buyers. Today its the PS Classic, next week it will be something else. What will happen if the groups start buying the 128GB ipad again at 349.99? are they gunna want proof of purchase that it wasn't bought at $329, cuz chas v'shalem buyers should make $10? The bottom line is they treat buyers like garbage. Most of their "Commission Match" policies are BS, especially when the driver/guy at drop off doesn't have the ability to put in correct commission.


So don't buy.....  ???
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 20, 2018, 08:24:37 PM
I think this current PS classic saga is an indicator of the overall attitude the buying groups have towards buyers. Today its the PS Classic, next week it will be something else. What will happen if the groups start buying the 128GB ipad again at 349.99? are they gunna want proof of purchase that it wasn't bought at $329, cuz chas v'shalem buyers should make $10? The bottom line is they treat buyers like garbage. Most of their "Commission Match" policies are BS, especially when the driver/guy at drop off doesn't have the ability to put in correct commission.
+1

Love how during the mint deal they got all upset when people backed out of they commitment.
Buyers were losing 100's of dollars in commission.
It's a two way street.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 20, 2018, 08:34:05 PM
This is the reason for it, you know how many people will be trying to dump this item on MYS of they didn't have the policy? That would be a $25+ dollar loss for them per piece for something they never to responsibly for them.
And trust me plenty of people will be trying to dump them on them even with the policy.
TBH, I didn't read your post closely enough, I thought you were referring to the processing/payment delays upthread. Rereading, I see you were clearly talking about the 10 day policy, and while the specifics can get murky, I agree that MYS has no choice but to protect themselves here.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 20, 2018, 08:53:36 PM
I think this current PS classic saga is an indicator of the overall attitude the buying groups have towards buyers. Today its the PS Classic, next week it will be something else. What will happen if the groups start buying the 128GB ipad again at 349.99? are they gunna want proof of purchase that it wasn't bought at $329, cuz chas v'shalem buyers should make $10? The bottom line is they treat buyers like garbage. Most of their "Commission Match" policies are BS, especially when the driver/guy at drop off doesn't have the ability to put in correct commission.
IME with MYS, they changed the price to 349 without asking for proof.

And the guy at drop-off has to ability to put in whatever commission he wants.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 20, 2018, 08:53:56 PM
+1

Love how during the mint deal they got all upset when people backed out of they commitment.
Buyers were losing 100's of dollars in commission.
It's a two way street.
No. It's a one way street.
Buying groups milking buyers as hard as they can.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lobo3k on December 20, 2018, 08:57:41 PM
My experience with USA:  I was in touch with one of their reps, asking him multiple times if he'll take my 150 PS Classics. Every time I asked he said "yes". Once I had them all in stock I requested a pick up. They came a WEEK later to pick them up. Next day I get a text saying "we're not taking consoles anymore" . I replied "well it's not like I'm dumping them on you, I made sure to specifically ask you if you're taking and you said yes". They basically replied that they don't care and that they're screwing me over and they're fine with it. Not the first type of this story iv heard from them. There are many many other buying groups out there that are MUCH more reliable and trustworthy then them. I would stay away at all costs.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 20, 2018, 08:58:20 PM
IME with MYS, they changed the price to 349 without asking for proof.

And the guy at drop-off has to ability to put in whatever commission he wants.
youre wrong. His system has a limit on each item what he can adjust commission to.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 20, 2018, 09:01:55 PM
youre wrong. His system has a limit on each item what he can adjust commission to.
Wait, so he can adjust commission, but with a limit, possibly.

Not sure what your point is though with this.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 20, 2018, 09:01:59 PM


USA doing what USA does. #PS4CLASSIC

USA is a S*** Show. Forcing people to return an item and not honor their price

Not gonna defend them..
1) What will happen if you refuse, the message I got doesn't sound like they're forcing you, just asking nicely...
2) they're offering to pay commission on returning it...
3) I'm assuming all they want is you to forward them a return label..
4)they're only doing this for the $99 not the $74...
I do believe they should just eat the loss..
But if this is how they want to go about it, then it's a two way street and if the commission goes up for example the coins  etc... They should do what's right and go ''lfni'm mishuras a business deal"...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: JunkYardUnz on December 20, 2018, 09:02:53 PM
Guys... Pointsmakers is the way to go, no issues so far this holiday season. Everything posted in their system within a few days of receipt. Checks take 2-3 days after you request them, but that seems to be the new normal. They have home pick up. The only issue is they donít have as many deals as the other groups.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: US on December 20, 2018, 09:06:42 PM
IME with MYS, they changed the price to 349 without asking for proof.

And the guy at drop-off has to ability to put in whatever commission he wants.
+1, they never asked for proof.
youre wrong. His system has a limit on each item what he can adjust commission to.
The limit is usually high enough to match prices.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 20, 2018, 09:08:56 PM
Guys... Pointsmakers is the way to go, no issues so far this holiday season. Everything posted in their system within a few days of receipt. Checks take 2-3 days after you request them, but that seems to be the new normal. They have home pick up. The only issue is they donít have as many deals as the other groups.
Do they pick up/have a drop-off in the Brooklyn area?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 20, 2018, 09:10:03 PM
Do they pick up/have a drop-off in the Brooklyn area?
Yes
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 20, 2018, 09:27:44 PM
Not defending the groups, but they often pre-sell at certain prices, and that can complicate situations.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 20, 2018, 09:30:35 PM
+1, they never asked for proof.The limit is usually high enough to match prices.
I've had it where he couldn't adjust to what Mark had told me. So it was like "you could send the receipt number to me later and I'm gunna ask mark now to change the system and tommorow I can see if I can update the receipt the extra few bucks and then you can request a check."  Thats not what I call commission matching.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 20, 2018, 09:35:57 PM
Today its the PS Classic, next week it will be something else. What will happen if the groups start buying the 128GB ipad again at 349.99?
MYS continues to buy these at 349.99..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 20, 2018, 09:37:04 PM
My experience with USA:  I was in touch with one of their reps, asking him multiple times if he'll take my 150 PS Classics. Every time I asked he said "yes". Once I had them all in stock I requested a pick up. They came a WEEK later to pick them up. Next day I get a text saying "we're not taking consoles anymore" . I replied "well it's not like I'm dumping them on you, I made sure to specifically ask you if you're taking and you said yes". They basically replied that they don't care and that they're screwing me over and they're fine with it. Not the first type of this story iv heard from them. There are many many other buying groups out there that are MUCH more reliable and trustworthy then them. I would stay away at all costs.
Yikes... do we have USA representation on here? @MosheD? I respect that at least Mark comes on here, taking his share of heat and joins in the conversation.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: US on December 20, 2018, 09:40:11 PM
I've had it where he couldn't adjust to what Mark had told me. So it was like "you could send the receipt number to me later and I'm gunna ask mark now to change the system and tommorow I can see if I can update the receipt the extra few bucks and then you can request a check."  Thats not what I call commission matching.
He didn't tell you he won't match because the system won't allow... he said the system isn't allowing him and he'll fix it.
I don't see what's wrong with that...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 20, 2018, 09:43:17 PM


Yikes... do we have USA representation on here? @MosheD?
No
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lobo3k on December 20, 2018, 09:45:51 PM
Yikes... do we have USA representation on here? @MosheD? I respect that at least Mark comes on here, taking his share of heat and joins in the conversation.

  Lol of course they don't have representation. They don't care
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on December 20, 2018, 09:56:30 PM
Yikes... do we have USA representation on here? @MosheD? I respect that at least Mark comes on here, taking his share of heat and joins in the conversation.
That was long ago... for the same price you can ask markmann to come out to defend them
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chinagel on December 20, 2018, 10:32:32 PM
Guys... Pointsmakers is the way to go, no issues so far this holiday season. Everything posted in their system within a few days of receipt. Checks take 2-3 days after you request them, but that seems to be the new normal. They have home pick up. The only issue is they donít have as many deals as the other groups.
THIS. Now say it to yourself 100 times...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 20, 2018, 11:04:07 PM
He didn't tell you he won't match because the system won't allow... he said the system isn't allowing him and he'll fix it.
I don't see what's wrong with that...
I'm saying it's a flawed system. If Mark agrees to match a price, and it's a huge hassle and requires separate checks to be written out, and you have to chase them down for it, I don't consider that commission matching. Either way, that's the least of the issues these days.

Though I do give most of my stuff to MYS because there is a lot I do like about them.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 20, 2018, 11:23:56 PM
That was long ago... for the same price you can ask markmann to come out to defend them


 :-\
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on December 20, 2018, 11:38:48 PM
How long does it take these days for MYS to accept packages in DE(at the new location)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 20, 2018, 11:42:26 PM
How long does it take these days for MYS to accept packages in DE(at the new location)

Where still catching up on the old stuff once were up to date things should be a lot smoother going forward
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitzshpitz on December 20, 2018, 11:58:26 PM
Guys... Pointsmakers is the way to go, no issues so far this holiday season. Everything posted in their system within a few days of receipt. Checks take 2-3 days after you request them, but that seems to be the new normal. They have home pick up. The only issue is they donít have as many deals as the other groups.

Where are they based out of? How do I get on the group?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 21, 2018, 12:29:44 AM
Why isnít that pure fraud that can land the perp in jail?
It very much is, but for some people the extra few 100k a year (w/o exaggeration) is the difference between making it through the year or having a great year... Risk vs Reward..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 21, 2018, 02:09:57 AM
Ridiculous IMO, than people bash the competition when they say you only have to up 10 days, it's still 10 days....
Agreed. No question about it, this current debacle with USA is by far worse than the issues that myself and others were giving MYS a tough time about....
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on December 21, 2018, 07:13:04 AM
That was long ago... for the same price you can ask markmann to come out to defend them
Correct.
Dont be fooled by the signature, thats just  laziness.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 21, 2018, 08:08:21 AM
Correct.
Dont be fooled by the signature, thats just  laziness.


 :o
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 21, 2018, 08:45:19 AM
Where still catching up on the old stuff once were up to date things should be a lot smoother going forward
How long you expect that to take?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 21, 2018, 08:47:09 AM
How long you expect that to take?
Up to date here.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: US on December 21, 2018, 09:46:23 AM
How long you expect that to take?
Up to date my me.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 21, 2018, 09:48:01 AM
Up to date here.
Up to date my me.
I wasn't asking either of you. He claimed he wasn't up to do date so your posts are meaningless.  >:(
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on December 21, 2018, 10:29:45 AM
I wasn't asking either of you. He claimed he wasn't up to do date so your posts are meaningless.  >:(

Not up to date by me. Both by MYS and USA. Over a week behind by USA.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Willie on December 21, 2018, 12:35:42 PM
Looks like USA got new TE code that for me so far is working which is a miracle....
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 21, 2018, 12:36:10 PM
I wasn't asking either of you. He claimed he wasn't up to do date so your posts are meaningless.  >:(

We should be up to date by some time next week I know I've been hearing a lot of guys with old old stuff getting scanned in so definitely progress
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 21, 2018, 01:32:23 PM
I think this current PS classic saga is an indicator of the overall attitude the buying groups have towards buyers. Today its the PS Classic, next week it will be something else. What will happen if the groups start buying the 128GB ipad again at 349.99? are they gunna want proof of purchase that it wasn't bought at $329, cuz chas v'shalem buyers should make $10? The bottom line is they treat buyers like garbage. Most of their "Commission Match" policies are BS, especially when the driver/guy at drop off doesn't have the ability to put in correct commission.
IME with MYS, they changed the price to 349 without asking for proof.

And the guy at drop-off has to ability to put in whatever commission he wants.
I don't have an easy solution to this issue, but it's definitely a pain in the neck. I've had lots of different order for ipads over the last few weeks, some at $230/$330, some at $250/$350. I happen to keep track of all of this, and when I make a ticket, I document which email/deal posting each order was based off of so that I can ask for what's expected. First I had a few $350 orders show up as $330+$10. I had to ask for each one of those to be corrected. Then I had a package scanned as $350 and $230+10, when it should have be $330+$10 and $250 (waiting on that ticket to be resolved) - go figure. ETA: And to be clear, the items that showed up with the lower price than I had paid were always already delivered to the warehouse (but not scanned) before they ever became available at the lower price).

Bottom line, when prices fluctuate the groups have a few option. They can just leave the higher price - or raise the price across the board if they're matching other groups. Of course they'd be reluctant to do that because it means lower profits, and probably sometimes, taking a loss. They can set up a system where you always upload your confirmation or something beforehand (like the current order management but on steroids) - which shifts some of the work from the buyer to the group (though it would have to be automated on their end). Or they can do what they do now, which basically puts the burden of keeping track and doing the busy work on the buyer, but at least everyone ends up getting paid what they should be. I am of course leaving out the non-option, which is just screwing over the buyers as some groups clearly do.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on December 21, 2018, 02:48:58 PM
Looks like USA got new TE code that for me so far is working which is a miracle....

I thought so too until I got the cancellation email 3 hours later
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Willie on December 21, 2018, 03:39:28 PM
I thought so too until I got the cancellation email 3 hours later
Ha ya me too.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Don Will on December 22, 2018, 07:06:23 PM
USA
We noticed that you have purchased the Playstation classic for us. We would like you to do us a favor and return it. We recognize that this can be a bit of a hassle, so if you can take a minute to read the information below we would greatly appreciate it.

This year we have sent out more deals than ever! We are here to stay in business and keep the deals coming for as long as we can. However, accepting this deal would set back our company a very significant amount of money. Oftentimes the market does not always go the way we would like it to, and we end up taking the loss without any mention to the group.

Unfortunately this deal is too significant to accept, and we are asking you to help us out by returning the product. We understand this can be time consuming for you, therefore if you are a *loyal buyer* to USA Buying Group we are willing to compensate you $3 for every Playstation classic that you return.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 22, 2018, 07:08:27 PM
USA
We noticed that you have purchased the Playstation classic for us. We would like you to do us a favor and return it. We recognize that this can be a bit of a hassle, so if you can take a minute to read the information below we would greatly appreciate it.

This year we have sent out more deals than ever! We are here to stay in business and keep the deals coming for as long as we can. However, accepting this deal would set back our company a very significant amount of money. Oftentimes the market does not always go the way we would like it to, and we end up taking the loss without any mention to the group.

Unfortunately this deal is too significant to accept, and we are asking you to help us out by returning the product. We understand this can be time consuming for you, therefore if you are a *loyal buyer* to USA Buying Group we are willing to compensate you $3 for every Playstation classic that you return.
No thank you. Please honor your commitment.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 22, 2018, 07:19:29 PM
USA
We noticed that you have purchased the Playstation classic for us. We would like you to do us a favor and return it. We recognize that this can be a bit of a hassle, so if you can take a minute to read the information below we would greatly appreciate it.

This year we have sent out more deals than ever! We are here to stay in business and keep the deals coming for as long as we can. However, accepting this deal would set back our company a very significant amount of money. Oftentimes the market does not always go the way we would like it to, and we end up taking the loss without any mention to the group.

Unfortunately this deal is too significant to accept, and we are asking you to help us out by returning the product. We understand this can be time consuming for you, therefore if you are a *loyal buyer* to USA Buying Group we are willing to compensate you $3 for every Playstation classic that you return.
When an item double or triples in price and you sent it to DE remember to ask USA for the item to be shipped back to you and you will send them back the commission.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lobo3k on December 22, 2018, 07:30:49 PM
USA
We noticed that you have purchased the Playstation classic for us. We would like you to do us a favor and return it. We recognize that this can be a bit of a hassle, so if you can take a minute to read the information below we would greatly appreciate it.

This year we have sent out more deals than ever! We are here to stay in business and keep the deals coming for as long as we can. However, accepting this deal would set back our company a very significant amount of money. Oftentimes the market does not always go the way we would like it to, and we end up taking the loss without any mention to the group.

Unfortunately this deal is too significant to accept, and we are asking you to help us out by returning the product. We understand this can be time consuming for you, therefore if you are a *loyal buyer* to USA Buying Group we are willing to compensate you $3 for every Playstation classic that you return.
And when they bought the Spiderman PS4 from people for $15 and the market went up to $60, I'm sure if you are a *loyal buyer* they nicely went ahead and sent you the difference in comission. Because that's exactly how this business works.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 22, 2018, 07:42:12 PM
Real issue is that they can ask. They canít demand or expect returns. They can respectfully ask, and although the message they are sending out sounds like they are asking. They are in essence telling you they arenít taking at the higher price period.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 22, 2018, 07:45:18 PM
My experience with USA:  I was in touch with one of their reps, asking him multiple times if he'll take my 150 PS Classics. Every time I asked he said "yes". Once I had them all in stock I requested a pick up. They came a WEEK later to pick them up. Next day I get a text saying "we're not taking consoles anymore" . I replied "well it's not like I'm dumping them on you, I made sure to specifically ask you if you're taking and you said yes". They basically replied that they don't care and that they're screwing me over and they're fine with it. Not the first type of this story iv heard from them. There are many many other buying groups out there that are MUCH more reliable and trustworthy then them. I would stay away at all costs.
That's a 5k loss just from one buyer if they were to honor their commitment. No wonder they're going crazy.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lobo3k on December 22, 2018, 07:48:18 PM
That's a 5k loss just from one buyer if they were to honor their commitment. No wonder they're going crazy.
Noone is saying it's not a lot of money. However, sometimes deals go very good (like the Spiderman ps4) and they make $5k off one buyer, and sometimes deals go very bad. As a business built on trust, you MUST honor your commitments. Always
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 22, 2018, 07:53:39 PM
As a business built on trust, you MUST honor your commitments. Always
Pretty sad some don't understand this basic principal.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chinagel on December 22, 2018, 08:03:01 PM
When this happened I was given a tongue lashing that business is business etc it was pulling teeth to get them to at least match for the pieces that weren't picked up yet..
My response was don't beg for loyalty or expect it if you won't return the "favor"
Noone is saying it's not a lot of money. However, sometimes deals go very good (like the Spiderman ps4) and they make $5k off one buyer, and sometimes deals go very bad. As a business built on trust, you MUST honor your commitments. Always
They hold all the cards and there's nothing you can do besides not order for them.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 22, 2018, 08:19:44 PM
If not shipped to DE just give it to a different buying group who respects loyalty.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 22, 2018, 08:56:46 PM
If not shipped to DE just give it to a different buying group who respects loyalty.

"Dumping"
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 22, 2018, 08:58:36 PM
Was referring to when the price goes up and having a hard time with them matching higher commission.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 22, 2018, 09:08:56 PM
Was referring to when the price goes up and having a hard time with them matching higher commission.

No Problem
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 22, 2018, 09:15:38 PM
They hold all the cards and there's nothing you can do besides not order for them.
Not really their business is very highly dependent on buyer loyalty, they are only doing this because they think they can get away with it. If they think they stand to really lose their buying base over this I think they would back down.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chinagel on December 22, 2018, 09:18:27 PM
Not really their business is very highly dependent on buyer loyalty, they are only doing this because they think they can get away with it. If they think they stand to really lose their buying base over this I think they would back down.
And they obviously feel they will get away with it.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 22, 2018, 09:20:26 PM
And they obviously feel they will get away with it.
Time will tell. I think they will take a customer loyalty hit due to this. They have gone down from being the most well established of the groups to the group that made you return stuff.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 22, 2018, 09:39:09 PM
MYS just sent out:

ďIn an effort to be as transparent as possible with you, we put forth the following:
This announcement is pertaining to the Playstation Classic Console.
The market price on this particular item is making it increasingly difficult for us to resume paying $75-$99 for this item.
As such, MYS is offering the OPTION to you to return this item. We will be issuing a $5 account credit for each returned unit.
Again, this is an option, and not required.
It will, however, go a great distance in displaying a Loyalty to MYS Buying Group, Similar to the kind of loyalty you have come to expect from MYS.Ē

I like the CS angle here better then the USA email.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 22, 2018, 09:41:36 PM
MYS just sent out similar.

ďIn an effort to be as transparent as possible with you, we put forth the following:
This announcement is pertaining to the Playstation Classic Console.
The market price on this particular item is making it increasingly difficult for us to resume paying $75-$99 for this item.
As such, MYS is offering the OPTION to you to return this item. We will be issuing a $5 account credit for each returned unit.
Again, this is an option, and not required.
It will, however, go a great distance in displaying a Loyalty to MYS Buying Group, Similar to the kind of loyalty you have come to expect from MYS.Ē

as sated optional not pressuring anyone to do anything they don't want to would greatly appreciate it
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yossig on December 22, 2018, 09:43:06 PM
And when they bought the Spiderman PS4 from people for $15 and the market went up to $60, I'm sure if you are a *loyal buyer* they nicely went ahead and sent you the difference in comission. Because that's exactly how this business works.
I only got $15 for each from mys
Can I still ask them to match it?
Maybe we should open a thread discussing buying group deals and commissions?
I think it will be very beneficial for all the buyers on here.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 22, 2018, 09:49:06 PM
as sated optional not pressuring anyone to do anything they don't want to would greatly appreciate it
So now Amazon (and other vendors) are gonna get 1000ís of PlayStation returns that were shipped to a handful of DE addresses?

If thereís ever a reason to for them to start banning anyone, this would be a great way for them to add to their lists.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 22, 2018, 09:50:06 PM
MYS just sent out:

ďIn an effort to be as transparent as possible with you, we put forth the following:
This announcement is pertaining to the Playstation Classic Console.
The market price on this particular item is making it increasingly difficult for us to resume paying $75-$99 for this item.
As such, MYS is offering the OPTION to you to return this item. We will be issuing a $5 account credit for each returned unit.
Again, this is an option, and not required.
It will, however, go a great distance in displaying a Loyalty to MYS Buying Group, Similar to the kind of loyalty you have come to expect from MYS.Ē

I like the CS angle here better then the USA email.
How does it work, trying to do returns from amazon for example? Don't you normally have to pay return shipping for items that don't have free returns?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 22, 2018, 09:52:37 PM
How does it work, trying to do returns from amazon for example? Don't you normally have to pay return shipping for items that don't have free returns?

they should provide free label if not contact our support and we will arrange a label to made for those who need

We greatly appreciate those who are working with us on this matter
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 22, 2018, 10:01:02 PM
they should provide free label if not contact our support and we will arrange a label to made for those who need

We greatly appreciate those who are working with us on this matter
I just went into my amazon account to try to do a return for an order of 3 and when I get to the end it tries to charge ~$9 for return shipping. Should I go straight to your CS? Also, I have a few @$99 from a week or two ago that were already scanned and paid. Do you want to try to return those as well?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 22, 2018, 10:05:43 PM
I just went into my amazon account to try to do a return for an order of 3 and when I get to the end it tries to charge ~$9 for return shipping. Should I go straight to your CS? Also, I have a few @$99 from a week or two ago that were already scanned and paid. Do you want to try to return those as well?

ye
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 23, 2018, 12:43:59 AM
MYS just sent out:

ďIn an effort to be as transparent as possible with you, we put forth the following:
This announcement is pertaining to the Playstation Classic Console.
The market price on this particular item is making it increasingly difficult for us to resume paying $75-$99 for this item.
As such, MYS is offering the OPTION to you to return this item. We will be issuing a $5 account credit for each returned unit.
Again, this is an option, and not required.
It will, however, go a great distance in displaying a Loyalty to MYS Buying Group, Similar to the kind of loyalty you have come to expect from MYS.Ē

I like the CS angle here better then the USA email.
Nothing to discuss, this is a much better angle to take. I went ahead and made return labels for all of mine.

Instead of feeling screwed, I appreciate the flexibility to return them if I choose to. Straight up class act. Youíve gained my trust, @Markmann20
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 23, 2018, 12:44:46 AM
No thank you. Please honor your commitment.
You do this too?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 23, 2018, 12:49:52 AM
Nothing to discuss, this is a much better angle to take. I went ahead and made return labels for all of mine.

Instead of feeling screwed, I appreciate the flexibility to return them if I choose to. Straight up class act. Youíve gained my trust, @Markmann20

Thank You
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Afrages6 on December 23, 2018, 06:52:03 AM
I wonder how amazon will react to all of these returns from a couple of addresses in Delaware. They don't mind when we are giving them business, but now I could see them cracking down when we start doing bulk returns on an item which they keep on dropping the price for.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: htg123 on December 23, 2018, 06:55:49 AM
A few things can be true at the same time:

1) USA has handled this terribly, and tend to be very rough around the edges when dealing with buyers. MYS has dealt with this in a much better way.

2) in an ideal world, it would be nice for commissions to increase if something like this happened for the positive, but at the same time, do buyers look at their relationship with these groups as credit or equity partners? If you're an equity partner, then you potentially have rights to the upside. If the relationship is one of credit, then the main thing is downside protection. Imho, this relationship resembles one of credit.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 23, 2018, 07:10:18 AM
You do this too?
Do what, buying groups? No.
That would be my response to the request.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 23, 2018, 09:00:03 AM
A few things can be true at the same time:

1) USA has handled this terribly, and tend to be very rough around the edges when dealing with buyers. MYS has dealt with this in a much better way.

2) in an ideal world, it would be nice for commissions to increase if something like this happened for the positive, but at the same time, do buyers look at their relationship with these groups as credit or equity partners? If you're an equity partner, then you potentially have rights to the upside. If the relationship is one of credit, then the main thing is downside protection. Imho, this relationship resembles one of credit.
Thatís exactly the point they are giving you no downside protection when they say either return or accept low price for it. If they are making the price decrease the groups problem, by definition the price increase is the groups collective benefit, not just the people running it.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: zh cohen on December 23, 2018, 10:23:28 AM
Thatís exactly the point they are giving you no downside protection when they say either return or accept low price for it.

I wonder what the Ribis implications of USA's approach is.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: aygart on December 23, 2018, 12:29:37 PM
I wonder what the Ribis implications of USA's approach is.
Who is lending or borrowing money?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: nobiggy on December 23, 2018, 04:06:03 PM
No. It's a one way street.
Buying groups milking buyers as hard as they can.

Unfortunately this is true although they portray it as a two way street, which is the problem.

I just need someone to remind me the next time around the following:

 When the item doubles or triples in price and I sent it to DE please remind me to ask them for the item to be shipped back to me (i'll even throw in a free pre-paid shipping label) and I will send them the commission.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 23, 2018, 08:12:44 PM
USA deducting all Payments for PS classic without buyers agreeing to return.

Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 23, 2018, 08:18:57 PM
Crazy.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 23, 2018, 08:21:21 PM
USA deducting all Payments for PS classic without buyers agreeing to return.
For the $100 one from beginning of December also?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 23, 2018, 08:22:13 PM
For the $100 one from beginning of December also?
I think it depends when you dropped it off, but in my case yes.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 23, 2018, 08:44:43 PM
USA deducting all Payments for PS classic without buyers agreeing to return.
Just wow.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 23, 2018, 08:45:56 PM
Anyone know how to do a return at gamestop? Trying to set it up for a ps classic and there doesn't appear to be anywhere on the site to log a return. Am I supposed to just have them send it back and hope gamestop refunds?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 23, 2018, 08:51:39 PM
Is this even legal?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on December 23, 2018, 09:00:59 PM
Anyone know how to do a return at gamestop? Trying to set it up for a ps classic and there doesn't appear to be anywhere on the site to log a return. Am I supposed to just have them send it back and hope gamestop refunds?
I think you have to call consoles are different than anything else with GameStop. I think itís the only thing that canít be returned in store
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 23, 2018, 09:49:21 PM
USA deducting all Payments for PS classic without buyers agreeing to return.
What is this supposed to mean?!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 23, 2018, 10:52:44 PM
What is this supposed to mean?!
I think what they are doing is taking back any payments that were made for the playstations even when they were paid a couple of weeks ago. This can be done by putting a negative balance for the amount of the item which will be compensated when you send them other items.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 23, 2018, 10:53:49 PM
I think what they are doing is taking back any payments that were made for the playstations even when they were paid a couple of weeks ago. This can be done by putting a negative balance for the amount of the item which will be compensated when you send them other items.

sounded like they were voiding checks which would be crazy thing to do
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on December 23, 2018, 10:56:09 PM
I think what they are doing is taking back any payments that were made for the playstations even when they were paid a couple of weeks ago. This can be done by putting a negative balance for the amount of the item which will be compensated when you send them other items.
No way. Canít be.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 23, 2018, 10:56:57 PM
sounded like they were voiding checks which would be crazy thing to do
OMG I sure hope they wouldn't! Another reason I moved from 100% buying for USA to currently doing 95% MYS 5% USA.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 23, 2018, 10:58:24 PM
No way. Canít be.
Well it is definitely a better thing to do than to void out checks. Although both options are really on the fringes of being illegal (at least halachically)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on December 23, 2018, 11:01:54 PM
Well it is definitely a better thing to do than to void out checks. Although both options are really on the fringes of being illegal (at least halachically)
How much are they even losing per item ? So wrong of them. Let them takeh SOME of the profits from the PS4 Spider-Man and theyíll be alright...
Iím assuming that they made above $60 profit after commission for the PS4. Their losing $30 per item here. Nunu
  I know Iím nosy lol.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 23, 2018, 11:01:59 PM
Well it is definitely a better thing to do than to void out checks. Although both options are really on the fringes of being illegal (at least halachically)
Voiding checks is most definitely illegal
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 23, 2018, 11:02:47 PM
How much are they even losing per item ? So wrong of them. Let them takeh SOME of the profits from the PS4 Spider-Man and theyíll be alright...
Iím assuming that they made above $60 profit after commission for the PS4. Their losing $30 per item here. Nunu
  I know Iím nosy lol.
Difference is, they made that money earlier, while this is money they can lose now.

I know, I know. Itís still wrong. VERY wrong.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on December 23, 2018, 11:12:06 PM
Personally Iíve switched from 100% Usa to MYS a long time ago.
Thank goodness I did so I donít have to deal with this junk. From a PR point I really dont understand how this can benefit them in the long run. Especially with so much competition out there now.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 23, 2018, 11:16:51 PM
I don't have an easy solution to this issue, but it's definitely a pain in the neck. I've had lots of different order for ipads over the last few weeks, some at $230/$330, some at $250/$350. I happen to keep track of all of this, and when I make a ticket, I document which email/deal posting each order was based off of so that I can ask for what's expected. First I had a few $350 orders show up as $330+$10. I had to ask for each one of those to be corrected. Then I had a package scanned as $350 and $230+10, when it should have be $330+$10 and $250 (waiting on that ticket to be resolved) - go figure. ETA: And to be clear, the items that showed up with the lower price than I had paid were always already delivered to the warehouse (but not scanned) before they ever became available at the lower price).

Bottom line, when prices fluctuate the groups have a few option. They can just leave the higher price - or raise the price across the board if they're matching other groups. Of course they'd be reluctant to do that because it means lower profits, and probably sometimes, taking a loss. They can set up a system where you always upload your confirmation or something beforehand (like the current order management but on steroids) - which shifts some of the work from the buyer to the group (though it would have to be automated on their end). Or they can do what they do now, which basically puts the burden of keeping track and doing the busy work on the buyer, but at least everyone ends up getting paid what they should be. I am of course leaving out the non-option, which is just screwing over the buyers as some groups clearly do.
+1000

This whole thing is ridiculous having to double check each order to ensure the same price you were promised. If at one point in time it was worth giving $7 commission, it should still be semi worth it even when it sparingly drops on Amazon by $20 (it depends on the minute of the day as the ipads have been in and out of stock and at different price points every day).

Maybe the best option would be to remain at the higher promised price and that would attract a lot of the "dumpers" to give them to that particular group. The amount earned by the bulk may cover that difference plus some.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 23, 2018, 11:36:19 PM
Lol, after the heat on MYS here the past week, USA of all people is coming to their rescue and building their reputation and loyalty on here..

MYS is likely gonna benefit A LOT from this fiasco.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lobo3k on December 24, 2018, 01:09:17 AM
How much are they even losing per item ? So wrong of them. Let them takeh SOME of the profits from the PS4 Spider-Man and theyíll be alright...
Iím assuming that they made above $60 profit after commission for the PS4. Their losing $30 per item here. Nunu
  I know Iím nosy lol.
They're probably losing $50+ per piece...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 24, 2018, 01:47:10 AM
They're probably losing $50+ per piece...
Source?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 24, 2018, 02:16:26 AM
Source?
Market value went down to under $50 per piece, as per USAís claim.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 24, 2018, 02:17:47 AM
Market value went down to under $50 per piece, as per USAís claim.

they are worth anywhere from $40-$50 now in all my years of doing this I've never seen something like this
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lobo3k on December 24, 2018, 03:29:46 AM
Was a pre release sale.. MYS had them out for months already that he was buying it from BB. They just never ended up going out of stock (like the others did).
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 24, 2018, 06:37:14 AM
why dont you just not accept the delivery of these PS classic that way it will automatically be returned?

@Markmann20 @MosheD
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on December 24, 2018, 06:54:45 AM
why dont you just not accept the delivery of these PS classic that way it will automatically be returned?

@Markmann20 @MosheD
I NO LONGER WORK FOR USA OR ANY OTHER BUYING GROUP.

Either based on my past experience that is logistically unfeasible as the groups do not know what is in each box when they are delivered. And a delivery is not like your house with 5 packages....its 100s at a time
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 24, 2018, 07:15:56 AM
I NO LONGER WORK FOR USA OR ANY OTHER BUYING GROUP.
@MosheD sorry your signature is misleading, why you just remove your referral link..


Either based on my past experience that is logistically unfeasible as the groups do not know what is in each box when they are delivered. And a delivery is not like your house with 5 packages....its 100s at a time
if every box gets scanned by UPS (or whoever) then they can make everyone fill out a google form and reject those boxes, no?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on December 24, 2018, 07:28:55 AM
How much are they even losing per item ? So wrong of them. Let them takeh SOME of the profits from the PS4 Spider-Man and theyíll be alright...
Iím assuming that they made above $60 profit after commission for the PS4. Their losing $30 per item here. Nunu
  I know Iím nosy lol.
1. See above post
2. I think USA is wrong and stupid with the waybthey are handling this. Everything should be taken at the price posted regardless. Otherwise, the trust the aystem is built on falls apart. IF they want you to do an optional favor they should offer more than $3...

However the above post which I see a bunch of ppl agreeing with here is a load of BS.

You are taking the best items which are far and few between, and comparing them with this deal. What makes those deals valuable is supply is far below demand, driving up the price. By definition that means the item is "rare" and while the groups have QTY it is limited. What happened here is Sony overproduced and supply is way above demand driving resale price down. (What makes this situation even more unique is the manufacturer then went and tanked the price themselves driving price down even further.) So you're comparing x amount of PS4/coins to 20x psc. The loss here is more significant than those good deals.

Even if it wasnt the notion that because they make money they should lose stinks of socialism. They are a business and should always play the hand that is smartest for them...

My .02
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on December 24, 2018, 07:33:23 AM
@MosheD sorry your signature is misleading, why you just remove your referral link..

if every box gets scanned by UPS (or whoever) then they can make everyone fill out a google form and reject those boxes, no?
1. I still want referrals :)
2.That is basically the same as asking ppl to return...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on December 24, 2018, 08:02:23 AM
1. See above post
2. I think USA is wrong and stupid with the waybthey are handling this. Everything should be taken at the price posted regardless. Otherwise, the trust the aystem is built on falls apart. IF they want you to do an optional favor they should offer more than $3...

However the above post which I see a bunch of ppl agreeing with here is a load of BS.

You are taking the best items which are far and few between, and comparing them with this deal. What makes those deals valuable is supply is far below demand, driving up the price. By definition that means the item is "rare" and while the groups have QTY it is limited. What happened here is Sony overproduced and supply is way above demand driving resale price down. (What makes this situation even more unique is the manufacturer then went and tanked the price themselves driving price down even further.) So you're comparing x amount of PS4/coins to 20x psc. The loss here is more significant than those good deals.

Even if it wasnt the notion that because they make money they should lose stinks of socialism. They are a business and should always play the hand that is smartest for them...

My .02
huh?
Socialism???
Just plain stupid and bad PR.. don't think there is any "ideology" war at place here.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on December 24, 2018, 08:09:56 AM
huh?
Socialism???
Just plain stupid and bad PR.. don't think there is any "ideology" war at place here.
Maybe wrong word.
Buyers have a tendency to think that since thengroups make money they owe them.something. They owe them squat.

Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 24, 2018, 08:18:38 AM
Maybe wrong word.
Buyers have a tendency to think that since thengroups make money they owe them.something. They owe them squat.
i dont think everyone in this thread will agree with you...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 24, 2018, 08:33:27 AM
i dont think everyone in this thread will agree with you...
You're catching on. That's exactly what hes saying
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on December 24, 2018, 08:49:17 AM
Maybe wrong word.
Buyers have a tendency to think that since thengroups make money they owe them.something. They owe them squat.
no one said they own anyone anything. All they are saying is that if you commit to buy at a price then you have to buy it at that price. The same way they won't adjust if it goes up they should not adjust if it goes down.. pretty simple if you ask me.
No one is complaining that they made money...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 24, 2018, 09:01:14 AM
Maybe wrong word.
Buyers have a tendency to think that since thengroups make money they owe them.something. They owe them squat.
Stupid response. They have a decision to make. 1)Buyers take no part in the selling part of the business, and therefore have nothing to do with the ultimate resale value of the item this would apply to both price increases and decreases.... or 2) they are getting you involved by asking/demanding returns when a price doesnít go the way they planned, by definition we, as a collective group of buyers have a right to start re-examining past deals where they turned significantly more profit than initially thouught, and say acknowledge your buyers in that case. No one is saying they owe anything. They have a decision to make and it seems that they decided their resale ability is indeed the buyers problem. In that case we all have a right to look a lot closer at the resale end of the deals.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: puddles on December 24, 2018, 09:07:53 AM
Stupid response. They have a decision to make. 1)Buyers take no part in the selling part of the business, and therefore have nothing to do with the ultimate resale value of the item this would apply to both price increases and decreases.... or 2) they are getting you involved by asking/demanding returns when a price doesnít go the way they planned, by definition we, as a collective group of buyers have a right to start re-examining past deals where they turned significantly more profit than initially thouught, and say acknowledge your buyers in that case. No one is saying they owe anything. They have a decision to make and it seems that they decided their resale ability is indeed the buyers problem. In that case we all have a right to look a lot closer at the resale end of the deals.
well said!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 24, 2018, 09:10:41 AM
Maybe wrong word.
Buyers have a tendency to think that since thengroups make money they owe them.something. They owe them squat.
And buyers don't owe the group squat.

Groups like to use the word "loyal", and we'll remember who returned blah blah blah.

Won't do anyone, any good for future deals. You ain't getting better commission on future deals Bec. you were loyal and returned the PS classic.

I was promised this garbage for the last iPhones fiasco. Didn't do me any good.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 24, 2018, 09:16:44 AM
 Bottom line. USA thinks they can get away with it and not have it hurt their business enough.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 24, 2018, 09:24:54 AM
Saying that the buying group should pay you more when they make more money is ridiculous. In 99.9 percent of cases it would be hard for you to make the amount of money the buying group is making or for it to be worth it for you to sell for the price the buying group is.

You can't do what the buying group is doing.
I don't know if any buying group has ever made a 50-60% profit on an item. Here, that's how much they are loosing and they still need to pay for overhead and here they are paying you another 3% +3%, on if I had to guess 10,000+ items (based on someone here saying they had 100) so we're talking about a loss of $660,000+ dollars. Maybe even over a million.

And they're yidden!

So spend a few minutes returning the item. If you don't like the way they handled it, go switch groups.

PS. I don't work for USA.

Maybe we all have each other's backs, and love the fellow man like you love yourself, and maybe we'll see the third Bais Hamikdosh in our generation!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 24, 2018, 09:29:14 AM
You can't do what the buying group is doing.
ROFLMAO!!!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 24, 2018, 09:36:29 AM
Saying that the buying group should pay you more when they make more money is ridiculous. In 99.9 percent of cases it would be hard for you to make the amount of money the buying group is making or for it to be worth it for you to sell for the price the buying group is.

You can't do what the buying group is doing.
I don't know if any buying group has ever made a 50-60% profit on an item. Here, that's how much they are loosing and they still need to pay for overhead and here they are paying you another 3% +3%, on if I had to guess 10,000+ items (based on someone here saying they had 100) so we're talking about a loss of $660,000+ dollars. Maybe even over a million.

And they're yidden!

So spend a few minutes returning the item. If you don't like the way they handled it, go switch groups.

PS. I don't work for USA.

Maybe we all have each other's backs, and love the fellow man like you love yourself, and maybe we'll see the third Bais Hamikdosh in our generation!
Oh stop pulling the we are all yidden card! Most of the time when someone tells me we all frum Jews here, what follows is the way he/she is screwing me over. This has nothing to do with frum or anything like that. Itís a business, period. They make boatloads of money, in no small part due to their hardworking buyer base. If they felt it was a huge loss for them, they can come like a mentsch and ask not demand returns. Definetly not just deduct from your total and screw you. Or send 2 word texts saying ďmust returnĒ. I have gained enough from them over the years that had they said please return and help us out, here is a few dollars an item for your troubles. I would gladly oblige. Not to mention people used rewards and gift cards or other promos which would actually cause them a loss by returning.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 24, 2018, 09:44:24 AM
On a completely separate note, regarding the price difference with the ipads, filled out tickets with MYS for the price difference last night and had the amount updated less than 12 hours later. With USA I am still waiting on it being updated after filling out their form in the middle of last week.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: aygart on December 24, 2018, 09:44:54 AM
I think what they are doing is taking back any payments that were made for the playstations even when they were paid a couple of weeks ago. This can be done by putting a negative balance for the amount of the item which will be compensated when you send them other items.
I don't see how this can be anything other than outright stealing. I would imagine this can be recovered in a din torah.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 24, 2018, 09:47:10 AM
I don't see how this can be anything other than outright stealing.
Alternative accounting.  :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on December 24, 2018, 10:11:58 AM
Saying that the buying group should pay you more when they make more money is ridiculous. In 99.9 percent of cases it would be hard for you to make the amount of money the buying group is making or for it to be worth it for you to sell for the price the buying group is.

You can't do what the buying group is doing.
I don't know if any buying group has ever made a 50-60% profit on an item. Here, that's how much they are loosing and they still need to pay for overhead and here they are paying you another 3% +3%, on if I had to guess 10,000+ items (based on someone here saying they had 100) so we're talking about a loss of $660,000+ dollars. Maybe even over a million.

And they're yidden!

So spend a few minutes returning the item. If you don't like the way they handled it, go switch groups.

PS. I don't work for USA.

Maybe we all have each other's backs, and love the fellow man like you love yourself, and maybe we'll see the third Bais Hamikdosh in our generation!

FTR, I don't buy for any groups currently. This is pure hogwash. No one is complaining with how @Markmann20 at MYS dealt with this issue. They asked people to return in a gracious way instead of forcing the issue and stealing money.

How anyone would continue to buy for USA when there are plenty of competitors who didn't resort to theft is beyond me.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 24, 2018, 10:23:51 AM
Your thoughts?

Email was sent out to buy item (only one item in the email).
I bought 6 items within 2 minutes of email being sent out and only once they were delivered did I notice that I paid $25 more then the email stated (although when they sent the link  it was for the price I paid).

Do I now need to suffer the $150 loss? Can I force them to return it?.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gozalim on December 24, 2018, 10:25:39 AM
Your thoughts?

Email was sent out to buy item (only one item in the email).
I bought 6 items within 2 minutes of email being sent out and only once they were delivered did I notice that I paid $25 more then the email stated (although when they sent the link  it was for the price I paid).

Do I now need to suffer the $150 loss? Can I force them to return it?.
did you try asking nicely?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 24, 2018, 10:28:33 AM
Your thoughts?

Email was sent out to buy item (only one item in the email).
I bought 6 items within 2 minutes of email being sent out and only once they were delivered did I notice that I paid $25 more then the email stated (although when they sent the link  it was for the price I paid).

Do I now need to suffer the $150 loss? Can I force them to return it?.
In light of recent ps4 issue you at least have the same rights that they have.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 24, 2018, 11:04:44 AM
Your thoughts?

Email was sent out to buy item (only one item in the email).
I bought 6 items within 2 minutes of email being sent out and only once they were delivered did I notice that I paid $25 more then the email stated (although when they sent the link  it was for the price I paid).

Do I now need to suffer the $150 loss? Can I force them to return it?.

I don't understand. The email said to pay x amount and you want more money because you spent more money then they told you to spend?

You already delivered it to the buying group?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 24, 2018, 11:07:46 AM

I don't understand. The email said to pay x amount and you want more money because you spent more money then they told you to spend?
Never said I want more money (asked about returning item).
I made a mistake by ordering too quick and not verifying the price.

They clearly write in the email the you should verify price, that being said I think they should take more responsibility in the links they send out and double check them bc I find too often that in the rush to send out the emails they send out bad links.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 24, 2018, 11:08:37 AM
You already delivered it to the buying group?
I guess I wasn't clear.

Was delivered straight to DE so I don't have control over the item.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on December 24, 2018, 11:16:38 AM
I don't understand. The email said to pay x amount and you want more money because you spent more money then they told you to spend?

You already delivered it to the buying group?
But he's a fellow Yid! Don't you want to build the Beis Hamikdosh?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 24, 2018, 11:30:35 AM
Can I force them to return it?.
The groups want everyone to return items where they are gonna suffer a loss. How can they justify not doing the same for you?

Or send 2 word texts saying ďmust returnĒ.
And you can do this ;)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 24, 2018, 11:35:52 AM


Never said I want more money (asked about returning item).
I made a mistake by ordering too quick and not verifying the price.

They clearly write in the email the you should verify price, that being said I think they should take more responsibility in the links they send out and double check them bc I find too often that in the rush to send out the emails they send out bad links.

Not really sure what your asking. Unless the group is refusing to return the item.

The links are almost always correct. Items go OOS and prices change. You should really be double checking the price.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 24, 2018, 11:44:04 AM
Did you reach out to them?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 24, 2018, 11:52:21 AM


I guess I wasn't clear.

Was delivered straight to DE so I don't have control over the item.

The links are almost always correct. Items go OOS and prices change. You should really be double checking the price.
Exactly. Prices change often within minutes and sometimes during the time that they type and send the message.

did you try asking nicely?



But he's a fellow Yid! Don't you want to build the Beis Hamikdosh?
Exactly. I do, and I hope they do too.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 24, 2018, 11:56:52 AM


FTR, I don't buy for any groups currently. This is pure hogwash. No one is complaining with how @Markmann20 at MYS dealt with this issue. They asked people to return in a gracious way instead of forcing the issue and stealing money.

How anyone would continue to buy for USA when there are plenty of competitors who didn't resort to theft is beyond me.



If you don't like the way they handled it, go switch groups.

But the way they handled it doesn't change the fact that they are in a worse position then you would be in if you return it, and therefore IMHO you should return it.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 24, 2018, 11:58:59 AM
Did you reach out to them?
Yes but wanted to know what the public opinion about this regardless of how they handle it.

Originally was told that there is not much they can do.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 24, 2018, 11:59:14 AM
ROFLMAO!!!
On a single person level, of one guy buying and selling without huge groups of people buying for him, and without a few $M, you can't close deals that these guys can. You can't always take the loss of an iPad that someone returns on Amazon for no reason.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gozalim on December 24, 2018, 12:00:47 PM



But the way they handled it doesn't change the fact that they are in a worse position then you would be in if you return it, and therefore IMHO you should return it.
they should absorb the amazon return fees
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 24, 2018, 12:03:21 PM



But the way they handled it doesn't change the fact that they are in a worse position then you would be in if you return it, and therefore IMHO you should return it.
The way they handled it is by theft.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 24, 2018, 12:04:11 PM
they should absorb the amazon return fees
Are they not? If you are taking a loss on returning this then we can have an issue.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: nobiggy on December 24, 2018, 12:05:16 PM
they are worth anywhere from $40-$50 now in all my years of doing this I've never seen something like this

A lot can be dumped on Amazon for a net of around $55.

In addition after what happened to the Nintendo classic this year I wasn't surprised on the PS classic drop, although this great of a price drop is a bit much.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gozalim on December 24, 2018, 12:06:56 PM
Are they not? If you are taking a loss on returning this then we can have an issue.
it's about $8 per order return, USA offering $3
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gozalim on December 24, 2018, 12:07:35 PM
The way they handled it is by theft.
has anyone actually had their total get deducted/negative?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 24, 2018, 12:10:41 PM
has anyone actually had their total get deducted/negative?
As per posts earlier, yes.

No personal experience.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 24, 2018, 12:16:51 PM
Are they not? If you are taking a loss on returning this then we can have an issue.
Going to guess you donít buy for groups? The hassle involving the return is also money.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 24, 2018, 12:17:30 PM
As per posts earlier, yes.

No personal experience.
I did. My PO was still an open PO not paid yet.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 24, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
it's about $8 per order return, USA offering $3
Amazon charges for returns? Did anyone who saw that they are getting charged for returns ask USA about that?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 24, 2018, 12:55:58 PM
Amazon charges for returns? Did anyone who saw that they are getting charged for returns ask USA about that?
Depends on return reason
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on December 24, 2018, 01:20:44 PM
has anyone actually had their total get deducted/negative?

Yes
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 24, 2018, 01:21:45 PM
Has anyone actually had a check voided?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 24, 2018, 01:33:14 PM
  [/quote]
has anyone actually had their total get deducted/negative?
Everyone had their PO's deducted to zero
Amazon charges for returns? Did anyone who saw that they are getting charged for returns ask USA about that?
Unless you lie and say it was damaged etc. Would look great that thousands of PS classics all of sudden broke.
Many people bought from Ebay seller who charges 15% restocking fee.


Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 24, 2018, 01:34:00 PM
Depends on return reason
ie If you want a free return (for basically any item being purchased for buying groups) you have to lie.
Title: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on December 24, 2018, 02:34:36 PM
Yes but wanted to know what the public opinion about this regardless of how they handle it.

Originally was told that there is not much they can do.
You always gotta double check pricing. Your totally wrong. If your a big customer to that buying group I would try to ask for a courtesy credit, maybe half back...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 24, 2018, 02:44:24 PM
Your thoughts?

Email was sent out to buy item (only one item in the email).
I bought 6 items within 2 minutes of email being sent out and only once they were delivered did I notice that I paid $25 more then the email stated (although when they sent the link  it was for the price I paid).

Do I now need to suffer the $150 loss? Can I force them to return it?.
Similar thing happened with me, I asked USA nicely, and they graciously gave me back the item..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: BerB on December 24, 2018, 02:50:30 PM
ie If you want a free return (for basically any item being purchased for buying groups) you have to lie.
If you bought it at $100 at the beginning, then saying that it became available for a lower price would be honest. Otherwise, you have to lie to get the return for free. They were recommending saying that you found a lower price.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gozalim on December 24, 2018, 02:51:10 PM
If you bought it at $100 at the beginning, then saying that it became available for a lower price would be honest. Otherwise, you have to lie to get the return for free. They were recommending saying that you found a lower price.
"found a lower price" does not get you free return
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 24, 2018, 02:57:42 PM
If you bought it at $100 at the beginning, then saying that it became available for a lower price would be honest. Otherwise, you have to lie to get the return for free. They were recommending saying that you found a lower price.
A) Better price does not get you free shipping
B) It has since dropped in price to 69.95, so wouldnít be a lie anyway. Although itís very misleading and borderline lying because thatís not the reason youíre returning it.. midvar sheker tirchak

Just saying
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 24, 2018, 02:58:57 PM
If you bought it at $100 at the beginning, then saying that it became available for a lower price would be honest. Otherwise, you have to lie to get the return for free. They were recommending saying that you found a lower price.
"found a lower price" does not get you free return
+1. That's exactly what I tried right away. You get the same shipping return fee as any other reason. I did have 1 item allow me to print my own return label (ie the buying group would generate their own shipping label to use with my return authorization slip), but every other one required that shipping fees be deducted.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: BerB on December 24, 2018, 03:07:55 PM
A) Better price does not get you free shipping
B) It has since dropped in price to 69.95, so wouldnít be a lie anyway. Although itís very misleading and borderline lying because thatís not the reason youíre returning it.. midvar sheker tirchak

Just saying
A) It was getting free shipping, but maybe they changed that after a certain number of returns had been processed.
B) The lower price IS the reason you're returning it. The price dropped so it's no longer worth keeping at the price they sold it for. Not that I'm going to get into an argument about the Halacha on this one.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 24, 2018, 03:33:49 PM
A) It was getting free shipping, but maybe they changed that after a certain number of returns had been processed.
B) The lower price IS the reason you're returning it. The price dropped so it's no longer worth keeping at the price they sold it for. Not that I'm going to get into an argument about the Halacha on this one.
The option reads: ďI found a better price elsewhereĒ. As I said, not exactly a lie, but definitely misleading.

Also, I happen to think that Amazon never gives free returns for ďfound a better priceĒ but I guess I could be wrong.

I, too, will not discuss what the actual Halacha is. Thatís why I added
Just saying
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on December 24, 2018, 03:38:22 PM
Also, I happen to think that Amazon never gives free returns for ďfound a better priceĒ but I guess I could be wrong.

Did for me yesterday on a completely unrelated product.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 24, 2018, 03:57:30 PM
Did for me yesterday on a completely unrelated product.
Cool. Something sold by them or a third party?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 24, 2018, 05:23:23 PM
Anyone else notice the chat option disappear on Pointsmaker's site?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 25, 2018, 08:54:31 AM


This whole thing is ridiculous having to double check each order to ensure the same price you were promised. If at one point in time it was worth giving $7 commission, it should still be semi worth it even when it sparingly drops on Amazon by $20 (it depends on the minute of the day as the ipads have been in and out of stock and at different price points every day).

Maybe the best option would be to remain at the higher promised price and that would attract a lot of the "dumpers" to give them to that particular group. The amount earned by the bulk may cover that difference plus some.

The iPads that USA is still paying $257.99 on.. they're losing money... The many different "insiders" I've spoken to say that indeed the market does drop, when even a single retailer price drops, like it did for these iPads from Walmart, even if Amazon is only sparingly selling them at the lower price..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 25, 2018, 10:02:43 AM
Anyone else notice the chat option disappear on Pointsmaker's site?
Yep, I went to activity and asked about my delivery that they received on this past Friday
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LNS on December 25, 2018, 10:03:24 AM
did anyone agree to have the ps classic returned and have the buying group send it back already?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: smart man on December 25, 2018, 10:24:39 AM

The iPads that USA is still paying $257.99 on.. they're losing money... The many different "insiders" I've spoken to say that indeed the market does drop, when even a single retailer price drops, like it did for these iPads from Walmart, even if Amazon is only sparingly selling them at the lower price..
It's currently at $330 from Walmart. What was the price when they said to buy?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 25, 2018, 10:49:21 AM
It's currently at $330 from Walmart. What was the price when they said to buy?
Thatís the 128GB, not the 32 GB
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: smart man on December 25, 2018, 10:58:10 AM
Thatís the 128GB, not the 32 GB
Um. No. It's the 32 GB
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 25, 2018, 11:00:05 AM
It's currently at $330 from Walmart. What was the price when they said to buy?
$230/$250
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 25, 2018, 11:00:37 AM
Thatís the 128GB, not the 32 GB
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Apple-iPad-Latest-Model-32GB-Wi-Fi-Space-Gray/876555631
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: smart man on December 25, 2018, 11:07:46 AM
$230/$250
That was Walmart's price too? Or only Amazon's?
Basically, where did it lower in price that they're saying they're "losing money off of the iPads"?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 25, 2018, 11:11:06 AM
That was Walmart's price too? Or only Amazon's?
Basically, where did it lower in price that they're saying they're "losing money off of the iPads"?

Walmart deal for $229 posted to DDMS.

Amazon has matched the $229 price on the SG and Silver colors. Gold is still at $249.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: smart man on December 25, 2018, 11:24:43 AM

The iPads that USA is still paying $257.99 on.. they're losing money... The many different "insiders" I've spoken to say that indeed the market does drop, when even a single retailer price drops, like it did for these iPads from Walmart, even if Amazon is only sparingly selling them at the lower price..
So can I label this as bs? :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 25, 2018, 11:33:19 AM

The iPads that USA is still paying $257.99 on.. they're losing money... The many different "insiders" I've spoken to say that indeed the market does drop, when even a single retailer price drops, like it did for these iPads from Walmart, even if Amazon is only sparingly selling them at the lower price..
I think that is complete BS based on the fact that some of the groups currently want you to buy the 128gb at 349.99
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: YesThatsMe on December 25, 2018, 12:45:41 PM
Tomorrow is Boxing Day in Canada, the Commonwealth version of Black Friday.

The Canadian Dollar is in the dumps.

What are some some high commission items, that can be bought and resold well?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 25, 2018, 01:43:12 PM
Um. No. It's the 32 GB
Well, thatís relatively new. Was $100 cheaper last week.

So can I label this as bs? :)

Why call BS on it? If the price dropped significantly and their purchasers were able to get hold of them for cheaper at that point, why is it relevant if the price went back to normal since? Definitely possible that theyíre losing money, although i canít say for sure
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 25, 2018, 01:49:27 PM
Well, thatís relatively new. Was $100 cheaper last week.

Why call BS on it? If the price dropped significantly and their purchasers were able to get hold of them for cheaper at that point, why is it relevant if the price went back to normal since? Definitely possible that theyíre losing money, although i canít say for sure
Isn't that the whole point? Buying when it's on sale, then selling at regular retail price?
Not sure how they're losing money here.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 25, 2018, 01:53:15 PM
Isn't that the whole point? Buying when it's on sale, then selling at regular retail price?
Not sure how they're losing money here.
They claim they sell it to a large foreign distributor/wholesaler. In that case, their buyer wouldnít necessarily be paying relative to retail price, rather relative to the price at which they could get it. But idk. Maybe.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 25, 2018, 01:54:36 PM
Isn't that the whole point? Buying when it's on sale, then selling at regular retail price?
Not sure how they're losing money here.

negative wrong business
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LETSGOCUSTOM on December 25, 2018, 01:59:56 PM
Well, thatís relatively new. Was $100 cheaper last week.

Why call BS on it? If the price dropped significantly and their purchasers were able to get hold of them for cheaper at that point, why is it relevant if the price went back to normal since? Definitely possible that theyíre losing money, although i canít say for sure
This makes no sense if they baught it cheaper then the prices went up why would the foreigners pay less at this point
If anything they would be paying more cuz prices rose
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LETSGOCUSTOM on December 25, 2018, 02:01:41 PM
They claim they sell it to a large foreign distributor/wholesaler. In that case, their buyer wouldnít necessarily be paying relative to retail price, rather relative to the price at which they could get it. But idk. Maybe.
You can literally see these deals go down on LinkedIn not always foreign distributors go on LinkedIn follow one of the points and then see where he comments youíll see the whole backend
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LETSGOCUSTOM on December 25, 2018, 02:02:33 PM
negative wrong business
Are you in the business
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: smart man on December 25, 2018, 02:03:15 PM
Well, thatís relatively new. Was $100 cheaper last week.

Why call BS on it? If the price dropped significantly and their purchasers were able to get hold of them for cheaper at that point, why is it relevant if the price went back to normal since? Definitely possible that theyíre losing money, although i canít say for sure
Ye it was $100 cheaper and that's when everyone was buying it for the buying groups too.

I call bs on things that I'm 95% sure are bull.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 25, 2018, 02:10:47 PM
Are you in the business
He is MYS buying group.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 25, 2018, 02:13:50 PM
He is the business.
FTFY
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on December 25, 2018, 02:52:54 PM
Ye it was $100 cheaper and that's when everyone was buying it for the buying groups too.

I call bs on things that I'm 95% sure are bull.
Iím with you on this.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Shotguns on December 25, 2018, 03:07:10 PM
Why not start a thread where we buyers can compare all buying group commissions. This way the groups can compete amongst themselves for our business.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 25, 2018, 03:07:28 PM


That was Walmart's price too? Or only Amazon's?
Basically, where did it lower in price that they're saying they're "losing money off of the iPads"?

Both.. and there's rumors that the 32gb will be on sale for $219 in the near future

So can I label this as bs? :)

Huh? Do u have any clue what the profit margin on these things are? Fairly often the commissions are higher percentage in profit per item then the groups are making per item.. obviously depends to who/how it's sold

I think that is complete BS based on the fact that some of the groups currently want you to buy the 128gb at 349.99

The info I heard was for the 32gb that were selling for $229. Although I would imagine it's similar for 128gb.. possibly the groups that are buying those for 349 have buyers who are willing to pay more or they plan to hold them..

They claim they sell it to a large foreign distributor/wholesaler. In that case, their buyer wouldnít necessarily be paying relative to retail price, rather relative to the price at which they could get it. But idk. Maybe.

The market for these items fluctuates and although there's a prettty stable price from conventional distributors secondary distributors/ traders etc.. have a price range and it fluctuates by the day.. (if the foreign buyer goes looks on say Amazon and sees x price, he's only willing to pay a small premium over that, even if it's not exactly accessible to him)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yossig on December 25, 2018, 03:14:13 PM
Why not start a thread where we buyers can compare all buying group commissions. This way the groups can compete amongst themselves for our business.
I only got $15 for each from mys
Can I still ask them to match it?
Maybe we should open a thread discussing buying group deals and commissions?
I think it will be very beneficial for all the buyers on here.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on December 25, 2018, 03:33:40 PM
Why not start a thread where we buyers can compare all buying group commissions. This way the groups can compete amongst themselves for our business.
Go ahead no one is stopping you from making a Google sheets spreadsheet and posting the link here.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 25, 2018, 03:38:22 PM
Why not start a thread where we buyers can compare all buying group commissions. This way the groups can compete amongst themselves for our business.
isn't that part of the point of this thread?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 25, 2018, 03:56:15 PM
Why not start a thread where we buyers can compare all buying group commissions. This way the groups can compete amongst themselves for our business.
Whatsapp groups.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 25, 2018, 04:28:39 PM
Why not start a thread where we buyers can compare all buying group commissions. This way the groups can compete amongst themselves for our business.
AKA a labor union
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Shotguns on December 25, 2018, 04:35:20 PM
Spoken like a true buying group owner.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 25, 2018, 04:38:13 PM
 
Spoken like a true buying group owner.
I didnít say thereís anything wrong with labor unions.. youíre putting your political beliefs into my statement :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Shotguns on December 25, 2018, 04:46:13 PM
Nothing wrong with buying group owners either. :D
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: smart man on December 25, 2018, 04:55:16 PM

Both.. and there's rumors that the 32gb will be on sale for $219 in the near future


Ok so you're saying that the buying groups are losing money because there's a rumor that it may go down to $219 in the future? That doesn't really make sense.
Either way, you said that there was a price drop. What price drop??? As of now the prices are just creeping higher.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: smart man on December 25, 2018, 04:58:01 PM



Huh? Do u have any clue what the profit margin on these things are? Fairly often the commissions are higher percentage in profit per item then the groups are making per item.. obviously depends to who/how it's sold


Do you have any clue? Or just what your "insider" acquaintances tell you?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 25, 2018, 04:58:38 PM
Nothing wrong with buying group owners either. :D

Yay  :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 25, 2018, 05:36:45 PM
Nothing wrong with buying group owners either. :D
+1
Yay  :)
So LIKE it!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: SrulyS on December 25, 2018, 07:41:40 PM
This makes no sense if they baught it cheaper then the prices went up why would the foreigners pay less at this point
If anything they would be paying more cuz prices rose
The Buying Groups were buying it at $249 plus commission. Then other stores offered it on sale for $229 so the Groups started paying $229 plus commission for all new purchases. The discussion was regarding that price change.

Now that all sales are over the price is back at the $329 retail price.

Either way, you said that there was a price drop. What price drop??? As of now the prices are just creeping higher.

See my above comments. Also, the price isn't creeping higher, the sales ended so it is back to retail price.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 25, 2018, 07:57:09 PM
Anyone else notice the chat option disappear on Pointsmaker's site?
I just received a email from them and they said that the way to chat is posting on activity any question you have for now. They took down the chat for now
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: smart man on December 25, 2018, 08:14:12 PM
The Buying Groups were buying it at $249 plus commission. Then other stores offered it on sale for $229 so the Groups started paying $229 plus commission for all new purchases. The discussion was regarding that price change.

Now that all sales are over the price is back at the $329 retail price.

See my above comments. Also, the price isn't creeping higher, the sales ended so it is back to retail price.
I hate having to argue on facts but... The current price on Amazon as I post is 269.99 it was 249 just this AM. Throughout the past week it's been floating between 229 and up. That's called creeping higher IMHO.

Now one more question. Were the buying groups buying it at 249 even after it hit 229 or not?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 25, 2018, 08:16:13 PM
I hate having to argue on facts but... The current price on Amazon as I post is 269.99 it was 249 just this AM. Throughout the past week it's been floating between 229 and up. That's called creeping higher IMHO.

Now one more question. Were the buying groups buying it at 249 even after it hit 229 or not?
-1 prices fluctuate especially on Amazon.
And no, they lowered the price when it dropped.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: smart man on December 25, 2018, 08:18:38 PM
-1 prices fluctuate especially on Amazon.
And no, they lowered the price when it dropped.
However much it fluctuates, if it's heading in an upward direction it's creeping higher. Doesn't mean it can't go to 249 right now, but if it will stay at 249 less than before then it means the price is creeping higher.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: smart man on December 25, 2018, 08:20:18 PM
So once it hit 229 they stopped telling people to buy at 249? Didn't know that part.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: SrulyS on December 25, 2018, 08:23:22 PM
I hate having to argue on facts but... The current price on Amazon as I post is 269.99 it was 249 just this AM. Throughout the past week it's been floating between 229 and up. That's called creeping higher IMHO.
You are right about Amazon. When I checked a few minutes ago I must have found a different version which was well over $300. BB as well seems to be $269. (Amazon is probably at $269 because BB is $269. They are just price matching the best sale and have been all along.)

Target and Walmart are both back at 329.

Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 25, 2018, 08:27:12 PM
So once it hit 229 they stopped telling people to buy at 249? Didn't know that part.
Yes, they told people to buy at 229 with increased commission.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 25, 2018, 08:56:44 PM
However much it fluctuates, if it's heading in an upward direction it's creeping higher. Doesn't mean it can't go to 249 right now, but if it will stay at 249 less than before then it means the price is creeping higher.
They stopped buying at 249 after the drop. Regular retail is 329, the fact that Amazon is still matching some better deaals does NOT mean prices are creeping higher, rather returning to the mean, with some extra LOWERED prices temporarily. The original 249 deal was based off the retail price of 329, and when it lowered, the market dropped.

This is all in theory, but Iím guessing Iím right, especially based off of what @Eliyohu was saying
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 25, 2018, 09:39:29 PM
Anyone else notice the chat option disappear on Pointsmaker's site?
I communicated with them and they did take down the chat. They said communicate  through the dashboard.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 25, 2018, 09:47:42 PM


Ok so you're saying that the buying groups are losing money because there's a rumor that it may go down to $219 in the future? That doesn't really make sense.
Either way, you said that there was a price drop. What price drop??? As of now the prices are just creeping higher.

Not to start comparing but any commidity changes prices based on rumors etc

It dropped from 349/329 249/229.. rumors aside, it does seem the prices are returning to regular/ sales ending.. and possibly next week the price will rise and there won't be any "loss" (depending on how much stock at what price/how fast it sells)

The "loss" I speak of is that currently they're buying some iPads from buyers at $257.99 (keeping to they're commitment) and currently selling for less. It's very possible that no loss will actualize.. however to currently buy at 249 would be cutting into their already slim margins if not an actual loss...

Do you have any clue? Or just what your "insider" acquaintances tell you?

Yes, I've seen the actual numbers from multiple places

So once it hit 229 they stopped telling people to buy at 249? Didn't know that part.

Yes

They stopped buying at 249 after the drop. Regular retail is 329, the fact that Amazon is still matching some better deaals does NOT mean prices are creeping higher, rather returning to the mean, with some extra LOWERED prices temporarily. The original 249 deal was based off the retail price of 329, and when it lowered, the market dropped.

This is all in theory, but Iím guessing Iím right, especially based off of what @Eliyohu was saying

Yes, more or less...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on December 26, 2018, 12:39:52 AM
 One thing you guys donít understand is that just because they didnít say to buy iPads @250 doesnít mean itís not worth a lot more then that. It was just more profitable for them to  give 240 for the 230 iPads rather then get a bit more quantity for a higher price. It wasnít like Best Buy had them for 250 at the same time and they were losing big quantities by not paying more.
     Another point is,  since the stores that had the sale donít have an easy option to get tax free they were able to pay less. Imo when items have to be shipped to DE they tend to give less commission since their less scared of the smaller competition. Lots of people will pay more for items when it gets shipped to your house. In DE there are less choices.
  All in all I know for a fact that they would make money by buying for 250 but they probably made more money by paying 240 and skipping out on some extra quantity.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 26, 2018, 12:48:42 AM

The "loss" I speak of is that currently they're buying some iPads from buyers at $257.99 (keeping to they're commitment) and currently selling for less.
One thing you guys donít understand is that just because they didnít say to buy iPads @250 doesnít mean itís not worth a lot more then that. It was just more profitable for them to  give 240 for the 230 iPads rather then get a bit more quantity for a higher price. It wasnít like Best Buy had them for 250 at the same time and they were losing big quantities by not paying more.
     Another point is,  since the stores that had the sale donít have an easy option to get tax free they were able to pay less. Imo when items have to be shipped to DE they tend to give less commission since their less scared of the smaller competition. Lots of people will pay more for items when it gets shipped to your house. In DE there are less choices.
  All in all I know for a fact that they would make money by buying for 250 but they probably made more money by paying 240 and skipping out on some extra quantity.

Machloikes in metzius..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on December 26, 2018, 03:28:24 AM
did anyone agree to have the ps classic returned and have the buying group send it back already?
anyone?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 26, 2018, 03:51:44 AM


Were the buying groups buying it at 249 even after it hit 229 or not?



And no, they lowered the price when it dropped.
Not true for all groups.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: User6669 on December 26, 2018, 06:25:59 AM
OMG! This place needs a good cleanup, and some rules!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 26, 2018, 06:27:26 AM


Not true for all groups.
The big 3 did
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 26, 2018, 06:39:19 AM
The big 3 did
MYS, USA, and...?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 26, 2018, 06:41:05 AM
MYS, USA, and...?
PM
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 26, 2018, 06:56:10 AM
Machloikes in metzius..
Let me help you with math $257.99 is $8 more then $249.99

I also clearly mentioned that buying at 249 even if it wouldn't be a loss but severely cut into their profit margin possibly making it not worth it.. (depending on how desperate you are for pieces etc)

As I stated above different ways that they sell it have a different profit margins..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 26, 2018, 07:36:28 AM
OMG! This place needs a good cleanup, and some rules!
Yes!
Guys letís stick with whatís relevant. We get it, everyone has special inside connections that only they know how much each group makes on each item!  ::)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 26, 2018, 10:26:23 AM
Yep, I went to activity and asked about my delivery that they received on this past Friday
I just received a email from them and they said that the way to chat is posting on activity any question you have for now. They took down the chat for now
How do you post to activity? Don't see such an option in the activity screen.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 26, 2018, 10:35:14 AM
Let me help you with math $257.99 is $8 more then $249.99
I also clearly mentioned that buying at 249 even if it wouldn't be a loss but severely cut into their profit margin possibly making it not worth it.. (depending on how desperate you are for pieces etc)
As I stated above different ways that they sell it have a different profit margins..

-2

One thing you guys donít understand is that just because they didnít say to buy iPads @250 doesnít mean itís not worth a lot more then that. It was just more profitable for them to  give 240 for the 230 iPads rather then get a bit more quantity for a higher price. It wasnít like Best Buy had them for 250 at the same time and they were losing big quantities by not paying more.
     Another point is,  since the stores that had the sale donít have an easy option to get tax free they were able to pay less. Imo when items have to be shipped to DE they tend to give less commission since their less scared of the smaller competition. Lots of people will pay more for items when it gets shipped to your house. In DE there are less choices.
  All in all I know for a fact that they would make money by buying for 250 but they probably made more money by paying 240 and skipping out on some extra quantity.

1- They never sent out that they're buying for 250, it was either 240 or 257.99 so that's what "buying at 250" meant in this comment (250 was just a round number)

2- You clearly said
Quote
The iPads that USA is still paying $257.99 on.. they're losing money...

OK, I'm done, let's get back to the real purpose of this thread. But I still think this should be moved, either to General Discussion or actually Credit Cards.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on December 26, 2018, 10:50:31 AM


OK, I'm done, let's get back to the real purpose of this thread. But I still think this should be moved, either to General Discussion or actually Credit Cards.

Great, all we need is more worthless posts/pad posting here.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 26, 2018, 10:51:41 AM

Great, all we need is more worthless posts/pad posting here.
Good one, wow
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 26, 2018, 11:14:11 AM
They never sent out that they're buying for 250, it was either 240 or 257.99 so that's what "buying at 250" meant in this comment (250 was just a round number)
Big difference between those numbers
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 26, 2018, 11:18:57 AM
Big difference between those numbers
True, but have you seen anyone paying a flat 250? It was either 240 or 257.99
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 26, 2018, 11:20:16 AM
OK, I'm done, let's get back to the real purpose of this thread.
...and that would be red flags?  :)
If there was ever a chance of me getting into this it just went out the window with all the shady stuff these groups pull.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 26, 2018, 11:22:26 AM
...and that would be red flags?  :)
If there was ever a chance of me getting into this it just went out the window with all the shady stuff these groups pull.
Fair point, although MYS hasn't pulled anything shady yet AFAIK.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 26, 2018, 11:23:52 AM
...and that would be red flags?  :)
If there was ever a chance of me getting into this it just went out the window with all the shady stuff these groups pull.
I see you in a group lol unless you're just lurking / biding your time..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 26, 2018, 11:27:59 AM
I see you in a group lol unless you're just lurking / biding your time..
Have not purchased anything but knowing someone is different. If you know the person running the group and feel comfortable then by all means go for it.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 26, 2018, 11:50:24 AM
Have not purchased anything but knowing someone is different. If you know the person running the group and feel comfortable then by all means go for it.
Agreed, although you still need to minimize your risks
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on December 26, 2018, 11:51:26 AM


True, but have you seen anyone paying a flat 250?

Yes
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 26, 2018, 12:07:48 PM
...and that would be red flags?  :)
If there was ever a chance of me getting into this it just went out the window with all the shady stuff these groups pull.
In all seriousness yes, that was in part my intention of starting this thread. See OP. Everyone has a certain risk tolerance and exposing the risks involved in public helps buyers make an educated decision.


It was definitely not intended for every wannabe buyer group owner, and their second cousin, to "know for a fact " how much each group is making or losing.
 
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: smart man on December 26, 2018, 12:09:50 PM
OMG! This place needs a good cleanup, and some rules!
Yes!
Guys letís stick with whatís relevant. We get it, everyone has special inside connections that only they know how much each group makes on each item!  ::)
Why is everyone so keen on ending this discussion? There's an importance in knowing the behind the scenes of these buying groups.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: smart man on December 26, 2018, 12:11:39 PM
I love how every Tom, Dick and Harry wants to be the moderator on this forum. Let the mods decide what can and can't be posted. What do you care?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 26, 2018, 12:28:09 PM
Why is everyone so keen on ending this discussion? There's an importance in knowing the behind the scenes of these buying groups.
I love how every Tom, Dick and Harry wants to be the moderator on this forum. Let the mods decide what can and can't be posted. What do you care?
You know for a smart man...Ö

No one is trying to be moderator the reason why this discussion needs to end is because once the thread spirals out of control it will be deleted. Not to mention all the people saying how they know things for a fact likely don't.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on December 26, 2018, 01:54:33 PM
Why is everyone so keen on ending this discussion? There's an importance in knowing the behind the scenes of these buying groups.
+1
 If you start a thread your not in charge of it. This is important info. And yes people know more then the op in this thread.. itís not hard to know for a fact that their making more then a certain price..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 26, 2018, 02:34:45 PM
I love how every Tom, Dick and Harry wants to be the moderator on this forum. Let the mods decide what can and can't be posted. What do you care?
Why is everyone so keen on ending this discussion? There's an importance in knowing the behind the scenes of these buying groups.
+1
 If you start a thread your not in charge of it. This is important info. And yes people know more then the op in this thread.. itís not hard to know for a fact that their making more then a certain price..
Guys. He was very clear about his intentions.
You know for a smart man...Ö

No one is trying to be moderator the reason why this discussion needs to end is because once the thread spirals out of control it will be deleted. Not to mention all the people saying how they know things for a fact likely don't.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on December 26, 2018, 02:41:04 PM
Guys. He was very clear about his intentions.
Calm down sir. Thereís no reason this thread should be deleted because of discussing iPads. If it does gets shut down then itís just not meant to be. You canít have a credit card thread without being able to talk about chase cards. This item is a huge item and price changing when something goes lower is another huge subject.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 26, 2018, 02:47:18 PM
Calm down sir. Thereís no reason this thread should be deleted because of discussing iPads. If it does gets shut down then itís just not meant to be. You canít have a credit card thread without being able to talk about chase cards. This item is a huge item and price changing when something goes lower is another huge subject.
There's nothing wrong with discussing the iPads, it's just that the owners' profits and bottom lines are irrelevant. What USA did was bad, even if they're losing money, and what MYS did was good, even if they're making money. :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: smart man on December 26, 2018, 04:29:33 PM
There's nothing wrong with discussing the iPads, it's just that the owners' profits and bottom lines are irrelevant. What USA did was bad, even if they're losing money, and what MYS did was good, even if they're making money. :)
What's irrelevant to you, may be very relevant to others.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 26, 2018, 04:36:51 PM
What's irrelevant to you, may be very relevant to others.
Whatís relevant to others, may cause this thread to be deleted :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: m65 on December 26, 2018, 06:29:11 PM
is it normal that on mys it can take 3+ weeks for items from when the tracking shows as delivered for the item to post by them?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 26, 2018, 06:37:54 PM
This thread will not be delete. It is useful information unlike the politics thread.  :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 26, 2018, 06:58:17 PM
is it normal that on mys it can take 3+ weeks for items from when the tracking shows as delivered for the item to post by them?
It's not normal, if you read upthread you'll see Mark explain it's due to the holidays and they had old packages buried under new. They probably could have planned/handled it better, but they got a new spacier address for this issue.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 26, 2018, 07:13:16 PM
is it normal that on mys it can take 3+ weeks for items from when the tracking shows as delivered for the item to post by them?
yes.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 26, 2018, 07:14:12 PM
It's not normal, if you read upthread you'll see Mark explain it's due to the holidays and they had old packages buried under new. They probably could have planned/handled it better, but they got a new spacier address for this issue.
things have gotten a bit better but they are still very behind.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: m65 on December 26, 2018, 07:16:03 PM
what am i supposed to do when a package is shown by tracking as delivered to de, but the items arent loaded up over a month later?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on December 26, 2018, 07:22:03 PM
Does Rakuten cancel orders? How many could one make? Do you have to wait for something in between orders?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 26, 2018, 07:25:53 PM
what am i supposed to do when a package is shown by tracking as delivered to de, but the items arent loaded up over a month later?
They sent out a message a few days ago:
Quote
Dear Buyers,
Our priority at MYS is your satisfaction. When it comes to your orders, our first and only concern is getting our packages scanned in efficiently, so that you can get paid appropriately, and resume ordering for MYS.
With that, if anyone has any packages (from December 10th and back) which are marked as signed and delivered in our Delaware location, yet havenít been received by MYS, we urge you to please take the following action:
1)Add the tracking number in question under Order management.
2) Please open a support ticket on the portal, and reference that tracking number.


Please rest assured that MYS takes your packages very seriously, and we will work tirelessly to find an acceptable outcome to each and every one of your concerns.
Thank you for your continued support.
MYS
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 26, 2018, 07:26:35 PM
Does Rakuten cancel orders? How many could one make? Do you have to wait for something in between orders?
I made 1 order of the ipad and 1 of the switch on different accounts today, both shipping direct to DE. Both were canceled already.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Caliaravos on December 26, 2018, 07:32:31 PM
I made 1 order of the ipad and 1 of the switch on different accounts today, both shipping direct to DE. Both were canceled already.
They rarely ship to DE, no tax to NY thou. Couple orders shipped to NY aprox 30 min ago.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 26, 2018, 07:40:17 PM
They rarely ship to DE, no tax to NY thou. Couple orders shipped to NY aprox 30 min ago.
I take it back. I ordered them both to my house (NY) - still canceled.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on December 26, 2018, 07:53:44 PM
I made 1 order of the ipad and 1 of the switch on different accounts today, both shipping direct to DE. Both were canceled already.
Thanks. Just ordered one to my house (NJ).
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: US on December 26, 2018, 07:54:30 PM
I take it back. I ordered them both to my house (NY) - still canceled.
Try checking out with PayPal.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 26, 2018, 08:30:57 PM
Thanks. Just ordered one to my house (NJ).
Tax?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 26, 2018, 08:34:43 PM
what am i supposed to do when a package is shown by tracking as delivered to de, but the items arent loaded up over a month later?
contacted support
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 26, 2018, 08:43:18 PM
Try checking out with PayPal.
I used Paypal for both orders.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on December 26, 2018, 08:45:30 PM
Tax?
Not on that item (switch). The iPad had tax.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 26, 2018, 08:46:29 PM
I used Paypal for both orders.
Iíve always had my orders cancelled with them, with and without PayPal
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: US on December 26, 2018, 08:48:49 PM
I used Paypal for both orders.
Oh. by me PayPal helped.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on December 26, 2018, 09:56:23 PM
Any way to get B&H to ship to DE?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Willie on December 26, 2018, 10:11:42 PM
Any way to get B&H to ship to DE?
+1 (or ny)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 26, 2018, 11:22:51 PM
+1 (or ny)
Any way to get B&H to ship to DE?
Itís very hard but tbh if you have an address outside NY or NJ thereís no tax, so for example to Baltimore thereís no tax and Iíve had much success ordering there
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on December 27, 2018, 11:38:00 AM
They sent out a message a few days ago:

It doesnít help. In addition, their pickup in Brooklyn has been a disaster as of late.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 27, 2018, 12:12:49 PM
It doesnít help. In addition, their pickup in Brooklyn has been a disaster as of late.
Add that here (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?action=twiki;topic=97891.690;last_msg=2036309;bd0a2c4=19443daec29debb390bdf620dc80026e)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 28, 2018, 08:50:50 AM
Not sure if this has been discussed, but if I send a group a BB return shipping label for classics I gave in a couple weeks ago, and they ship them back to BB, do we know for a fact BB doesn't track serial numbers?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 28, 2018, 08:52:55 AM
Itís very hard but tbh if you have an address outside NY or NJ thereís no tax, so for example to Baltimore thereís no tax and Iíve had much success ordering there
They recently started charging tax in 20 more states.. MD is one of them..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: puddles on December 28, 2018, 08:53:42 AM
Not sure if this has been discussed, but if I send a group a BB return shipping label for classics I gave in a couple weeks ago, and they ship them back to BB, do we know for a fact BB doesn't track serial numbers?
I had one experience with a BB return. Was awful. Tooks weeks for them to credit me back and they told me that I had less in the box than what I had sent back. Gluck.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 28, 2018, 08:54:35 AM
Not sure if this has been discussed, but if I send a group a BB return shipping label for classics I gave in a couple weeks ago, and they ship them back to BB, do we know for a fact BB doesn't track serial numbers?
Itís a big issue. Especially for in store purchases, that have serial number printed on receipt. This mess is just getting worse and worse.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on December 28, 2018, 08:57:32 AM
Not sure if this has been discussed, but if I send a group a BB return shipping label for classics I gave in a couple weeks ago, and they ship them back to BB, do we know for a fact BB doesn't track serial numbers?
I can't verify but there are DPs that
Walmart, Best Buy, GameStop care about serial numbers matching
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 28, 2018, 09:55:31 AM
I would imagine anyone with a little seichal would tell the BG: were happy to help you out and we don't want you to take a huge hit. So, I'll get you the BBY shipping label, but don't adjust my receipts/debit my BG account until BBY refunds me.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on December 28, 2018, 10:02:03 AM
I would imagine anyone with a little seichal would tell the BG: were happy to help you out and we don't want you to take a huge hit. So, I'll get you the BBY shipping label, but don't adjust my receipts/debit my BG account until BBY refunds me.

How do the BG know that you were refunded?...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 28, 2018, 10:06:27 AM
I would imagine anyone with a little seichal would tell the BG: were happy to help you out and we don't want you to take a huge hit. So, I'll get you the BBY shipping label, but don't adjust my receipts/debit my BG account until BBY refunds me.
As was pointed out previously, for this scenario they hold all the cards. It may be bad business practice for them not to accommodate, but apparently that hasnít stopped some groups.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 28, 2018, 10:07:37 AM
How do the BG know that you were refunded?...
I would tell them when I get/tell them to message me in 3 weeks. The last thing I would want is to get debited now, them have BBY say you returned us PS classics that we never sold. No refund.
Even best case scenario is annoying cuz I have cc that I don't use anymore, that I already paid the bill, that would get a negative balance, and I would have to get a check. I'm ok doing this as a favor for the groups, but don't wanna have my money on the line if the returns don't go smoothly.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 28, 2018, 10:09:15 AM
As was pointed out previously, for this scenario they hold all the cards. It may be bad business practice for them not to accommodate, but apparently that hasnít stopped some groups.
USA is forcing. MYS is "asking strongly". I would tell MYS I'm happy to help you out, but I wanna make sure I don't lose. I've found MYS very accomadating.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 28, 2018, 10:23:08 AM
USA is forcing. MYS is "asking strongly". I would tell MYS I'm happy to help you out, but I wanna make sure I don't lose. I've found MYS very accommodating.
As accommodating as they (ETA: MYS) have been, they still deducted the amount right away (before even shipping out the return - in this case it's Amazon, and they usually refund as soon as the shipping label is scanned), despite my asking that they wait until the refund shows as in process. And already days after they deducted, they still haven't actually sent out the return.

I have a fair amount of confidence that it'll work out in the end with MYS, but it's not the cleanest/best way. I think that's the recurring theme here.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 28, 2018, 10:42:30 AM
chat with BBY just now, where i asked for the serial:
"We have a specialised team who will be able to provide you the serial number of the product. Let me help you with their contact number so that you can get the serials number and can return the product."

I'm not saying they for sure will deny nonmatching returns, but I'm not so confident. (especially if the ones from walmart and amazon are all mixed in.)

Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: uchiknow on December 28, 2018, 11:07:20 AM
FYI I went to BBY in person to return a PS and they told me ďsorry, the serial number doesnít match with your order number on the recieptĒ.

Not sure if itís the same when you send it in, but I assume so.

They were able to give me the serial number for the order number so my BG needs to supply me with that specific PS.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 28, 2018, 11:12:29 AM
Did you buy that in store as well?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 28, 2018, 11:16:52 AM
FYI I went to BBY in person to return a PS and they told me ďsorry, the serial number doesnít match with your order number on the recieptĒ.

Not sure if itís the same when you send it in, but I assume so.

They were able to give me the serial number for the order number so my BG needs to supply me with that specific PS.
Wow! The BGS got thousands of them, and for all you know your classic was already returned to Walmart or amazon.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 28, 2018, 11:23:30 AM
Wow! The BGS got thousands of them, and for all you know your classic was already returned to Walmart or amazon.
Yup! Getting messier and messier....
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 28, 2018, 11:24:13 AM
As accommodating as they (ETA: MYS) have been, they still deducted the amount right away (before even shipping out the return - in this case it's Amazon, and they usually refund as soon as the shipping label is scanned), despite my asking that they wait until the refund shows as in process. And already days after they deducted, they still haven't actually sent out the return.

I have a fair amount of confidence that it'll work out in the end with MYS, but it's not the cleanest/best way. I think that's the recurring theme here.
yeah, no matter what mys promised, they won't be paying for them - guaranteed. No one can at the current wholesale price.

And here's USA's latest message, seems like they are doing their best to try to make a really bad situation right.

Hi Yehuda,

Firstly, we would like to thank you for being a loyal member of USA Buying Group. We appreciate, value and have a mutual trusting relationship with every single one of our buyers. We sincerely apologize for the previous message regarding the PlayStation deal that may have been misinterpreted or given off the wrong message. We understand returning these consoles can be a hassle, but we will work with you to get these all processed in a timely manner. As always, we stand behind our buyers and we would not allow you to lose money while buying for us.

If you may have noticed, the pricing and retail on this item has dropped by almost 50% already. As stated in previous messages, this would set our company back a very large sum of money.

Many of you have been asking why the price on your PO shows as zero dollars. An item is set to zero dollars when, we are no longer accepting it or if we did not request this item to be purchased. Please note, if you have an item on your PO and it is showing a price of zero dollars this is only temporary. We will work with you to find a solution that suits both us and you.

With that being said, we are asking you to please return your PlayStation Classics and will help in any way that we can with this process. We are here to grow and excel as a business but can not do so without your help! Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns.

USA Buying Group.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 28, 2018, 11:25:26 AM
👆got that too, really weak though as they arenít promising much.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 28, 2018, 11:28:14 AM
I would tell them when I get/tell them to message me in 3 weeks. The last thing I would want is to get debited now, them have BBY say you returned us PS classics that we never sold. No refund.
Even best case scenario is annoying cuz I have cc that I don't use anymore, that I already paid the bill, that would get a negative balance, and I would have to get a check. I'm ok doing this as a favor for the groups, but don't wanna have my money on the line if the returns don't go smoothly.
@Markmann20

People are happy to help, but need to make sure they don't get hurt.

Serialized items (as is most of the products you guys buy) are always tricky for returns.. Perhaps moving forward when you receive items, you should be tracking serials as well (standard practice for electronics market). Will add an extra step to (and thereby slow down) your process, but it ensures you can better protect yourself (through your buyers) if something goes wrong. Since that's what you're trying to do here, protect your bottom line.

For any new packages that have been delivered and not yet scanned in of Playstations, you can just leave everything in the box to keep track of orders / returns. But for old items already processed, the onus seems to be on the buyer to contact their Sales vendor, find out the serial, give that to you, you find it on the pallets, and get it back to the vendor properly. And if anything gets processed incorrectly, you get stuck in a messy drawn out refund process.

Personally, I requested a return for you guys for a few Amazon ones (@ $74.99) that were delivered a week ago and not yet scanned in. If everything is left in the box (i.e. you know what's mine) once you scan the tracking and leave it as that, all will be good for both of us. Also, Amazon has a much longer return window (end of January) for holiday sales.

An ebay order that was handed off 2+ weeks ago (@ $99.99), I'm having second thoughts about going through with the return on that.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on December 28, 2018, 11:28:18 AM
yeah, no matter what mys promised, they won't be paying for them - guaranteed. No one can at the current wholesale price.

And here's USA's latest message, seems like they are doing their best to try to make a really bad situation right.

Hi Yehuda,

Firstly, we would like to thank you for being a loyal member of USA Buying Group. We appreciate, value and have a mutual trusting relationship with every single one of our buyers. We sincerely apologize for the previous message regarding the PlayStation deal that may have been misinterpreted or given off the wrong message. We understand returning these consoles can be a hassle, but we will work with you to get these all processed in a timely manner. As always, we stand behind our buyers and we would not allow you to lose money while buying for us.

If you may have noticed, the pricing and retail on this item has dropped by almost 50% already. As stated in previous messages, this would set our company back a very large sum of money.

Many of you have been asking why the price on your PO shows as zero dollars. An item is set to zero dollars when, we are no longer accepting it or if we did not request this item to be purchased. Please note, if you have an item on your PO and it is showing a price of zero dollars this is only temporary. We will work with you to find a solution that suits both us and you.

With that being said, we are asking you to please return your PlayStation Classics and will help in any way that we can with this process. We are here to grow and excel as a business but can not do so without your help! Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns.

USA Buying Group.

What if you choose not to return it (i.e., not be a business partner)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 28, 2018, 11:32:11 AM
What if you choose not to return it (i.e., not be a business partner)
USA isnít really giving you an option.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 28, 2018, 11:38:00 AM
As accommodating as they (ETA: MYS) have been, they still deducted the amount right away (before even shipping out the return - in this case it's Amazon, and they usually refund as soon as the shipping label is scanned), despite my asking that they wait until the refund shows as in process. And already days after they deducted, they still haven't actually sent out the return.

I have a fair amount of confidence that it'll work out in the end with MYS, but it's not the cleanest/best way. I think that's the recurring theme here.

we only deducted from the buyers MYS buyers account once we printed the label for the return to go back in no way do we mean anything bad by doing that.and from when the label is printed the item either ships that day or the next day back

Sorry ahead of time for the people who dont like my grammar skills  :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 28, 2018, 11:40:52 AM
@Markmann20

People are happy to help, but need to make sure they don't get hurt.

Serialized items (as is most of the products you guys buy) are always tricky for returns.. Perhaps moving forward when you receive items, you should be tracking serials as well (standard practice for electronics market). Will add an extra step to (and thereby slow down) your process, but it ensures you can better protect yourself (through your buyers) if something goes wrong. Since that's what you're trying to do here, protect your bottom line.

For any new packages that have been delivered and not yet scanned in of Playstations, you can just leave everything in the box to keep track of orders / returns. But for old items already processed, the onus seems to be on the buyer to contact their Sales vendor, find out the serial, give that to you, you find it on the pallets, and get it back to the vendor properly. And if anything gets processed incorrectly, you get stuck in a messy drawn out refund process.

Personally, I requested a return for you guys for a few Amazon ones (@ $74.99) that were delivered a week ago and not yet scanned in. If everything is left in the box (i.e. you know what's mine) once you scan the tracking and leave it as that, all will be good for both of us. Also, Amazon has a much longer return window (end of January) for holiday sales.

An ebay order that was handed off 2+ weeks ago (@ $99.99), I'm having second thoughts about going through with the return on that.

Already speaking to programmer, were working on it
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 28, 2018, 11:45:42 AM
yeah, no matter what mys promised, they won't be paying for them - guaranteed. No one can at the current wholesale price.

And here's USA's latest message, seems like they are doing their best to try to make a really bad situation right.

Hi Yehuda,

Firstly, we would like to thank you for being a loyal member of USA Buying Group. We appreciate, value and have a mutual trusting relationship with every single one of our buyers. We sincerely apologize for the previous message regarding the PlayStation deal that may have been misinterpreted or given off the wrong message. We understand returning these consoles can be a hassle, but we will work with you to get these all processed in a timely manner. As always, we stand behind our buyers and we would not allow you to lose money while buying for us.

If you may have noticed, the pricing and retail on this item has dropped by almost 50% already. As stated in previous messages, this would set our company back a very large sum of money.

Many of you have been asking why the price on your PO shows as zero dollars. An item is set to zero dollars when, we are no longer accepting it or if we did not request this item to be purchased. Please note, if you have an item on your PO and it is showing a price of zero dollars this is only temporary. We will work with you to find a solution that suits both us and you.

With that being said, we are asking you to please return your PlayStation Classics and will help in any way that we can with this process. We are here to grow and excel as a business but can not do so without your help! Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns.

USA Buying Group.
This message is utter garbage.
It's a poor attempt at trying to rectify their previous terrible customer service

1) They don't value or have any mutual relationship with every "single" buyer. They treat their buyers as disposable.

2) The previous message was in no way "misinterpreted". It was actually pretty clear.

3) The PO excuse is lie. They are only supposed to show zero when an item is received "after" they no longer are taking an item. Here they systematically set everything to zero even after they were already set to $75-$100
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 28, 2018, 11:53:21 AM
If items are still sealed in the box you can just give it back to UPS and tell them you are rejecting it.
No need for any return labels.

You can asked for whomever still has ones that were not scanned in yet to provide the tracking numbers.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 28, 2018, 11:55:53 AM
If items are still sealed in the box you can just give it back to UPS and tell them you are rejecting it.
No need for any return labels.

You can asked for whomever still has ones that were not scanned in yet to provide the tracking numbers.

Problem is with that, guys have other stuff in the box that they don't want to be returned and were not gonna refuse boxes without our buyers permission
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 28, 2018, 12:00:00 PM
Problem is with that, guys have other stuff in the box that they don't want to be returned and were not gonna refuse boxes without our buyers permission
I have 6 that were delivered without other items and not yet scanned in, would be happy to provide tracking info for it to be rejected.

Didn't receive email about returning them.....
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 28, 2018, 12:00:00 PM
Problem is with that, guys have other stuff in the box that they don't want to be returned and were not gonna refuse boxes without our buyers permission
makes sense
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 28, 2018, 12:00:44 PM
I have 6 that were delivered without other and not yet scanned in, would be happy to provide tracking info for it to be rejected.

Didn't receive email about returning them.....
if you are sure that there is nothing else in there, notify whomever you are sending it to and maybe they can accommodate.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 28, 2018, 12:03:47 PM
I just having a feeling the BBY returns aren't gunna go smoothly and us buyers are gunna have to be busy, calling, chatting and fighting with BBY.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 28, 2018, 12:04:10 PM
I have 6 that were delivered without other items and not yet scanned in, would be happy to provide tracking info for it to be rejected.

Didn't receive email about returning them.....

Chat support the tracking numbers and will try to located and refuse if we still can
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 28, 2018, 12:05:58 PM
I just having a feeling the BBY returns aren't gunna go smoothly and us buyers are gunna have to be busy, calling, chatting and fighting with BBY.
I don't think best-buy scanned there serials when shipping as when they ship apple not always did I see a serial number on the receipt in store buying they did forsure
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 28, 2018, 12:06:14 PM
we only deducted from the buyers MYS buyers account once we printed the label for the return to go back in no way do we mean anything bad by doing that.and from when the label is printed the item either ships that day or the next day back

Sorry ahead of time for the people who dont like my grammar skills  :)
I'm not accusing you of any ill intention. From the communications with your staff in my ticket, it sounds like a procedural issue more than anything. However, I do take issue with your statement. I have 2 orders that were checked in already where I've uploaded return labels. Both have been deducted from my balance as of 2 days ago, but neither is shown as shipped in the tracking.

Also, I have an order from Gamestop that shipped directly to the DE warehouse, and was already checked in. I'm willing to faciliate MYS trying to return it, but I can't find any info on how that would would. All communication with your staff asking how to deal with that has been either misinterpreted - they thought I was asking how to return an item that shipped to me - or resulted in them asking me to figure it out.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on December 28, 2018, 12:09:53 PM
I don't think best-buy scanned there serials when shipping as when they ship apple not always did I see a serial number on the receipt in store buying they did forsure
Just because they didn't scan it out, doesn't mean they won't scan it (and match against a full record of what they purchased from their vendors) when it gets returned..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: shulem92 on December 28, 2018, 12:12:55 PM
i am so glad i buy only for pointsmaker, not involved in this mess at all. yes he sends out a few less orders, but for good reason
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 28, 2018, 12:15:42 PM
I'm not accusing you of any ill intention. From the communications with your staff in my ticket, it sounds like a procedural issue more than anything. However, I do take issue with your statement. I have 2 orders that were checked in already where I've uploaded return labels. Both have been deducted from my balance as of 2 days ago, but neither is shown as shipped in the tracking.

Also, I have an order from Gamestop that shipped directly to the DE warehouse, and was already checked in. I'm willing to faciliate MYS trying to return it, but I can't find any info on how that would would. All communication with your staff asking how to deal with that has been either misinterpreted - they thought I was asking how to return an item that shipped to me - or resulted in them asking me to figure it out.

Game stop is tricky those were just gonna swallow the loss as they due track serials

Theres a lot going on in warehouse all three of them and I was there yesterday they were processing a lot of returns to go back doing as quick and efficiently as possible
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 28, 2018, 12:16:53 PM
As all the buying groups are reading this thread you as members have more power than you think.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 28, 2018, 12:17:30 PM
Just because they didn't scan it out, doesn't mean they won't scan it (and match against a full record of what they purchased from their vendors) when it gets returned..
+1000, maybe MYS can use my BBY label with someone else's classic purchased from BBY, but if my label is used with an amazon, target, walmart, gamestop classic, what happens then? especially if MYS already debited my account.

I don't want this to turn from a "favor" to a "saga"
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 28, 2018, 12:39:58 PM
i am so glad i buy only for pointsmaker, not involved in this mess at all. yes he sends out a few less orders, but for good reason
Until the time comes and they too screw their buyers
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: shulem92 on December 28, 2018, 12:42:09 PM
Until the time comes and they too screw their buyers
when? like the time they paid out $50 commission for every iphone ordered even tho it was a loss for them in the hundreds of thousands of dollars range?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 28, 2018, 12:43:28 PM
Game stop is tricky those were just gonna swallow the loss as they due track serials

Theres a lot going on in warehouse all three of them and I was there yesterday they were processing a lot of returns to go back doing as quick and efficiently as possible
Good to know. I assume you're operating under the premise that Amazon is not tracking serials?

Like I said, I'm not super worried about not being made whole when all is said and done, but the best way to handle would be to always deduct what you've paid after the packages have been handed off to the carrier.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on December 28, 2018, 12:53:45 PM
when? like the time they paid out $50 commission for every iphone ordered even tho it was a loss for them in the hundreds of thousands of dollars range?
Itís a better bet to buy for them than others, but if it gets to the point that they really canít afford the loss they will have tough decisions to make. Iíve had great experiences with USA up until this point. Iíve had them honor higher commissions at a loss, and then this. As the fine print on all investments says: ďpast performance is not a future guaranteeĒ.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 28, 2018, 12:59:57 PM
Itís a better bet to buy for them than others, but if it gets to the point that they really canít afford the loss they will have tough decisions to make. Iíve had great experiences with USA up until this point. Iíve had them honor higher commissions at a loss, and then this. As the fine print on all investments says: ďpast performance is not a future guaranteeĒ.
You will not find out their (anyone) true colors until they are put in a tough position. I learned this lesson the hard way.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: shulem92 on December 28, 2018, 01:00:53 PM
Itís a better bet to buy for them than others, but if it gets to the point that they really canít afford the loss they will have tough decisions to make. Iíve had great experiences with USA up until this point. Iíve had them honor higher commissions at a loss, and then this. As the fine print on all investments says: ďpast performance is not a future guaranteeĒ.
past experience is not a future guarantee, but it shows their values/morals.
which is why i rely on this indicator
when? like the time they paid out $50 commission for every iphone ordered even tho it was a loss for them in the hundreds of thousands of dollars range?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 28, 2018, 01:04:55 PM
I have 2 orders that were checked in already where I've uploaded return labels. Both have been deducted from my balance as of 2 days ago, but neither is shown as shipped in the tracking.
Same situation here, deduction happened a few days ago and return still not shipped.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 28, 2018, 01:12:20 PM
Same situation here, deduction happened a few days ago and return still not shipped.
I don't know the behind the scenes financials of the groups, but I wonder if the delayed payouts, and possibly the immediate debits now, are because of cash flow, and not "were so backed up".  I mean, How can an echeck take a week?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 28, 2018, 01:19:37 PM
I don't know the behind the scenes financials of the groups, but I wonder if the delayed payouts, and possibly the immediate debits now, are because of cash flow, and not "were so backed up".  I mean, How can an echeck take a week?
2 weeks in my case, until I complained yesterday. I was basically told it's cash flow in so many words.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 28, 2018, 01:24:56 PM
2 weeks in my case, until I complained yesterday. I was basically told it's cash flow in so many words.
Which group?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on December 28, 2018, 01:33:41 PM
MYS. But all groups are slow, and I'm sure it's the same issue. It's logical with all the money they owe, they are probably scrambling as quickly as possible to confirm the qty they are receiving to THEIR buyer so they can get paid. Idk if they get paid upon committing to a qty or only upon delivering the merchandise to the buyer (which can take more time) or even at some later point - who knows. These unknown details determine the cash flow issues here.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 28, 2018, 01:57:21 PM
MYS. But all groups are slow, and I'm sure it's the same issue. It's logical with all the money they owe, they are probably scrambling as quickly as possible to confirm the qty they are receiving to THEIR buyer so they can get paid. Idk if they get paid upon committing to a qty or only upon delivering the merchandise to the buyer (which can take more time) or even at some later point - who knows. These unknown details determine the cash flow issues here.

Like I've said previously if you need your check faster contact myself or support we will have pushed out this time of year all groups have delays were not all made out of unlimited money we apologize for delays but if you reach out like others we will push out
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 28, 2018, 02:34:00 PM
You will not find out their (anyone) true colors until they are put in a tough position. I learned this lesson the hard way.
Can you give details?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 28, 2018, 02:34:37 PM
Like I've said previously if you need your check faster contact myself or support we will have pushed out this time of year all groups have delays were not all made out of unlimited money we apologize for delays but if you reach out like others we will push out
Not everyone is having cash flow issues...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 28, 2018, 02:41:03 PM
Theres a lot going on in warehouse all three of them and I was there yesterday they were processing a lot of returns to go back doing as quick and efficiently as possible
I guess this Fiasco can explain why everything else is still so behind.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on December 28, 2018, 02:58:00 PM
Not everyone is having cash flow issues...
Then there not a big group and not dealing with the volume myself and other big groups deal with
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 29, 2018, 01:44:02 PM
Then there not a big group and not dealing with the volume myself and other big groups deal with
You are not doing yourself any favors with posts like these but appreciate your honesty. You should really get your cash flow problems in check before something unforeseen happens.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 29, 2018, 06:44:53 PM
Then there not a big group and not dealing with the volume myself and other big groups deal with
-1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on December 29, 2018, 06:56:49 PM
Then there not a big group and not dealing with the volume myself and other big groups deal with

Iím going to hold old off on more purchases until cash flow issues are resolved. 
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 29, 2018, 07:25:41 PM
You are not doing yourself any favors with posts like these but appreciate your honesty. You should really get your cash flow problems in check before something unforeseen happens.
+100000000
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 29, 2018, 07:32:16 PM
-1
misread your message sorry. Agreed.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 29, 2018, 07:33:17 PM
Iím going to hold old off on more purchases until cash flow issues are resolved.
can't argue with that logic...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 29, 2018, 07:40:14 PM
Then there not a big group and not dealing with the volume myself and other big groups deal with
Bad excuse.

You don't take more then you can handle.

Saying we are not made of money isn't an answer.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 29, 2018, 08:27:28 PM
You are not doing yourself any favors with posts like these but appreciate your honesty. You should really get your cash flow problems in check before something unforeseen happens.
Im with Mark on this one. I honestly don't think it's a big deal. Once a year in November/December when they get insane quantities, if it takes them a few weeks to pay, it's not a big deal. That's how this business works, and I still feel comfortable buying for them.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 29, 2018, 08:50:15 PM
Im with Mark on this one. I honestly don't think it's a big deal. Once a year in November/December when they get insane quantities, if it takes them a few weeks to pay, it's not a big deal. That's how this business works, and I still feel comfortable buying for them.
Theyíre supposed to pay you upfront. Not get your stuff, try to sell them, and pay you with the proceeds after the fact.

DirectlyDeals always pays you on the spot, and itís the same by all drop-offs- because the model is supposed to be an upfront model. Cash flow means theyíre using time after purchases are made to get the money, and there are many risks in that case, which weíre probably not getting proper compensation for.

I may hold myself to only in-person dropoffs until these issues are resolved. Unnecessary major risk without nearly enough reward.

Technically thereís a risk of a check bouncing at a drop-off, but Iím not expecting that much (just yet).
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 29, 2018, 08:53:00 PM
Theyíre supposed to pay you upfront. Not get your stuff, try to sell them, and pay you with the proceeds after the fact.
They have a name for that.  ;)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: zh cohen on December 29, 2018, 08:55:42 PM
Iím going to hold old off on more purchases until cash flow issues are resolved.

Aren't "cash flow issues" a large part of the business model of these groups?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on December 29, 2018, 08:58:25 PM
Im with Mark on this one. I honestly don't think it's a big deal. Once a year in November/December when they get insane quantities, if it takes them a few weeks to pay, it's not a big deal. That's how this business works, and I still feel comfortable buying for them.
I agree. Just think about it as if it were your business. How is someone supposed to be backing this up with literally millions of dollars to be available immediately? if it takes a little longer than usual I would say that it is fine. Especially if they are still paying on the spot for dropoffs and processing checks immediately when requested.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 29, 2018, 09:01:46 PM
They have a name for that.  ;)
Come on, Iím not saying itís a Ponzi scheme. Just saying this is bringing the buyer further into the risk equation of the owner, which isnít how these groups were originally intended to be (at least as far as I understood)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 29, 2018, 09:08:48 PM
Come on, Iím not saying itís a Ponzi scheme.
I wasn't going that far but interesting you said that. I was going for "Red flag".  :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 29, 2018, 09:11:29 PM
I wasn't going that far but interesting you said that. I was going for "Red flag".  :)
I have a feeling if your name was really CM you wouldn't be worried :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 29, 2018, 09:34:05 PM
I have a feeling if your name was really CM you wouldn't be worried :) :) :) :)
I would be calling the credit card farms if it was CM. I would have also bought a few Kosher Switches.  :P
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 29, 2018, 09:36:50 PM
 
I would be calling the credit card farms if it was CM. I would have also bought a few Kosher Switches.  :P
;D
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: zh cohen on December 29, 2018, 09:56:13 PM
I have a feeling if your name was really CM you wouldn't be worried :) :) :) :)

And that never ends badly...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 29, 2018, 09:58:08 PM
I agree. Just think about it as if it were your business. How is someone supposed to be backing this up with literally millions of dollars to be available immediately? if it takes a little longer than usual I would say that it is fine. Especially if they are still paying on the spot for dropoffs and processing checks immediately when requested.
Legit companies have credit lines etc... That they use to pay for purchases, if they are relying on the sale from your products to pay you... Good luck.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 29, 2018, 09:58:35 PM
Aren't "cash flow issues" a large part of the business model of these groups?
Not all of them no
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 29, 2018, 09:59:21 PM
Theyíre supposed to pay you upfront. Not get your stuff, try to sell them, and pay you with the proceeds after the fact.

DirectlyDeals always pays you on the spot, and itís the same by all drop-offs- because the model is supposed to be an upfront model. Cash flow means theyíre using time after purchases are made to get the money, and there are many risks in that case, which weíre probably not getting proper compensation for.

I may hold myself to only in-person dropoffs until these issues are resolved. Unnecessary major risk without nearly enough reward.

Technically thereís a risk of a check bouncing at a drop-off, but Iím not expecting that much (just yet).
Exactly right.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on December 29, 2018, 10:06:56 PM
This is a pointless debate. If you don't feel comfortable with this business model, then don't buy. Or if you feel comfortable dropping off and getting a check on the spot, but not with DE, then don't order to DE. VAYTUR
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 29, 2018, 10:18:56 PM
This is a pointless debate. If you don't feel comfortable with this business model, then don't buy. Or if you feel comfortable dropping off and getting a check on the spot, but not with DE, then don't order to DE. VAYTUR
More like people bought under one impression, and then in reality that's not the case
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 29, 2018, 10:26:12 PM
More like people bought under one impression, and then in reality that's not the case
+1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 29, 2018, 10:26:42 PM
This is a pointless debate.
It is to help understand the risks. Not everyone is aware of them.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 29, 2018, 10:31:25 PM
It is to help understand the risks. Not everyone is aware of them.
Unrelated, but @ChaimMoskowitz seems to have just reached 1K likes
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 29, 2018, 10:32:57 PM
Unrelated, but @ChaimMoskowitz seems to have just reached 1K likes
What about the one HT?  :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 29, 2018, 10:33:45 PM
What about the one HT?  :)
Good point. Whatís that for?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: shulem92 on December 29, 2018, 10:36:03 PM
Unrelated, but @ChaimMoskowitz seems to have just reached 1K likes
perfect timing (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=99911.msg2032282#msg2032282)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 29, 2018, 10:42:38 PM
perfect timing (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=99911.msg2032282#msg2032282)
Good point :) I guess youíre the replacement @TimT ?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 29, 2018, 10:43:50 PM
Good point. Whatís that for?
Don't remember.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: shulem92 on December 29, 2018, 10:51:28 PM
Don't remember.
https://www.dansdeals.com/?s=chaimmoskowitz
i think they gave you that to spite you IIRC
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on December 29, 2018, 10:53:21 PM
Anyway, back on topic: So I still have not received notification of PS consoles delivered to USA weeks ago, although other items in the same shipment were scanned. Are they just denying receiving them now?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 29, 2018, 11:11:36 PM
Anyone have direct contact info for pointsmaker? Not having any luck getting response via ticket.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on December 29, 2018, 11:26:07 PM
Anyone have direct contact info for pointsmaker? Not having any luck getting response via ticket.
PM'ed.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 31, 2018, 01:55:10 PM
Anyone getting paid from Pointsmaker in a timely fashion. Thety recieved my item 10 days ago. Posted that they received it 3 days ago. Asked for a check and still waiting.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on December 31, 2018, 02:39:12 PM
No issues here. If you asked for a check three days ago, it usually takes 3-5 days to arrive.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Arisdeals on December 31, 2018, 06:58:28 PM
Has anyone tried returning a PlayStation classic to Best Buy that does not match the serial number of the original purchase? I'm aware that returning in store you have to have the same serial number but did anyone have any experience with shipping the PlayStation classic back to Best Buy and not having the original serial number as the item purchased?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 01, 2019, 10:38:48 AM
Are other people having trouble with MYS pickup in Flatbush? Iím beginning to be suspicious that they are deferring pickups so they wonít have to write out a check. 
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 01, 2019, 10:43:01 AM
Trouble such as?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 01, 2019, 10:44:48 AM
Trouble such as?

Lack of pickups.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 01, 2019, 11:41:09 AM
Are other people having trouble with MYS pickup in Flatbush? Iím beginning to be suspicious that they are deferring pickups so they wonít have to write out a check.
I did a drop-off in Lakewood last night, if thatís any help. Why not do a drop off?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 01, 2019, 11:42:56 AM
I wasn't given that option.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on January 01, 2019, 11:44:51 AM
I wasn't given that option.
its always available, not only in Lakewood but in other places as well...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 01, 2019, 11:47:08 AM
You always have that option to drop off in Crown Heights.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: biblioa on January 01, 2019, 12:12:41 PM
Theres a pick up today in flatbush
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 01, 2019, 12:19:20 PM
You always have that option to drop off in Crown Heights.
There's one in Borough park as well.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Don Will on January 02, 2019, 10:29:13 PM
USA refusing to pay for packages that were "never delivered". Of course they didn't lose it when it was delivered 4 weeks ago.... What a bunch of scammers.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 02, 2019, 10:31:41 PM
Anyone here using YRCW group?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on January 02, 2019, 10:33:15 PM
USA refusing to pay for packages that were "never delivered". Of course they didn't lose it when it was delivered 4 weeks ago.... What a bunch of scammers.
Ask them for video proof. They have the ability to see footage at the time your package has been delivered.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mordyk on January 02, 2019, 10:37:27 PM
USA refusing to pay for packages that were "never delivered". Of course they didn't lose it when it was delivered 4 weeks ago.... What a bunch of scammers.
Had that mys
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on January 02, 2019, 10:37:37 PM
USA refusing to pay for packages that were "never delivered". Of course they didn't lose it when it was delivered 4 weeks ago.... What a bunch of scammers.
Why am I not surprised.
Don't understand why anyone would buy for them anymore.
They can't be trusted
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Caliaravos on January 02, 2019, 10:51:13 PM
Had that mys
Obviously it's physically possible to happen at MYS, but I feel a lot more confident that MYS isn't lying about it.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 02, 2019, 10:51:15 PM
USA refusing to pay for packages that were "never delivered". Of course they didn't lose it when it was delivered 4 weeks ago.... What a bunch of scammers.
Add to the wiki. Also, this is very surprising. You sent tracking number and all? Generally it says who it was signed by.
Why am I not surprised.
Don't understand why anyone would buy for them anymore.
They can't be trusted

Come on, you donít think theyíd outright lie/steal, do you?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on January 02, 2019, 10:57:40 PM
Come on, you donít think theyíd outright lie/steal, do you?

I actually do. They straight up lied about the PS classic

And it's not about stealing, it's about taking responsibility for your actions. They receive millions of packages. There is a higher chance that they themselves lost, or misplaced a package. Why is that the buyers problem ?

Heck, I know guy that physically put a package on their truck by a pick up, and they claimed that they never received it ( essentially calling the buyer a liar ) 3 weeks later it was "found".
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 02, 2019, 10:59:29 PM

I actually do. They straight up lied about the PS classic

And it's not about stealing, it's about taking responsibility for your actions. They receive millions of packages. There is a higher chance that they themselves lost, or misplaced a package. Why is that the buyers problem ?
True, but it should technically be on the buyer to prove that it was received, which should be simple enough if itís true. They probably donít have it in the system and have no way of knowing if heís saying the truth unless he proves it.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Don Will on January 02, 2019, 11:02:19 PM
Post in the wiki. Also, this is very surprising. You sent tracking number and all? Generally it says who it was signed by.
Yes sir.

Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 02, 2019, 11:02:26 PM
A tracking number showing it was signed won't do either, since they sign for the whole pallet at once. Without checking the content.

But i believe this issue is not unique to USA.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Caliaravos on January 02, 2019, 11:03:39 PM
True, but it should technically be on the buyer to prove that it was received, which should be simple enough if itís true. They probably donít have it in the system and have no way of knowing if heís saying the truth unless he proves it.
I assume when he said "was delivered four weeks ago" it was signed for, or at least the tracking number said delivered. What other proof do you want from the buyer?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on January 02, 2019, 11:07:48 PM
A tracking number showing it was signed won't do either, since they sign for the whole pallet at once. Without checking the content.

But i believe this issue is not unique to USA.
Correct.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Caliaravos on January 02, 2019, 11:11:58 PM
A tracking number showing it was signed won't do either, since they sign for the whole pallet at once. Without checking the content.

But i believe this issue is not unique to USA.
So what kind of proof do you want from the buyer? What's stopping a buying group from claiming every 100th package wasn't delivered? Also once a package is signed for, as far as I know, it is almost impossible to dispute it with the credit card company.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 02, 2019, 11:19:00 PM
So what kind of proof do you want from the buyer? What's stopping a buying group from claiming every 100th package wasn't delivered? Also once a package is signed for, as far as I know, it is almost impossible to dispute it with the credit card company.
Of course, why would you be able to dispute it? It was delivered, after all. But the buying group has no case, and you should fight and publicize this story until you get your money, and then some. Though Iíd want to hear their perspective too.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on January 02, 2019, 11:35:59 PM
Of course, why would you be able to dispute it? It was delivered, after all. But the buying group has no case, and you should fight and publicize this story until you get your money, and then some. Though Iíd want to hear their perspective too.
Have you never had a package that was never delivered to your house even though the delivery company claims it was - USPS does that all the time
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 02, 2019, 11:40:15 PM
Have you never had a package that was never delivered to your house even though the delivery company claims it was - USPS does that all the time
With proof of a signature? Never
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 02, 2019, 11:44:13 PM
Signature ain't worth much if they don't verify the content.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 02, 2019, 11:45:01 PM
Signature ain't worth much if they don't verify the content.
But is a dispute winnable? Of course not.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 03, 2019, 12:05:53 AM
Anyone here using YRCW group?
Yes theyíre solid. Not as many deals as other groups. Found them honest and helpful through a few issues Iíve had. Sometimes slow to receive but always quick to pay (via ACH which I love).
Run by a ddf member (YR = @yitrap)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Caliaravos on January 03, 2019, 07:07:53 AM
Signature ain't worth much if they don't verify the content.
If you sign a contract without reading it, it's still binding.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on January 03, 2019, 08:03:52 AM
Iíve had fedex drivers ďsign packagesĒ themselves on the name of the recepient...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: molmedo1 on January 03, 2019, 09:04:25 AM
Iíve had fedex drivers ďsign packagesĒ themselves on the name of the recepient...

they do this at my job quite frequently.(PISSED ME OFF AND I REPORTED TO CORPORATE). FEDEX drivers constantly quitting every 3 month. I've found UPS drivers more stable.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: BerB on January 03, 2019, 10:46:02 AM
I have had Fedex lie that a package was signed for.

I did successfully dispute the credit card charge even though it was "signed for".
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: puddles on January 03, 2019, 10:53:34 AM
USA refusing to pay for packages that were "never delivered". Of course they didn't lose it when it was delivered 4 weeks ago.... What a bunch of scammers.
I had an issue. i had to follow up a few times but got a PO yesterday. I showed them proof of delivery, signature and what was in the order.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: BerB on January 03, 2019, 12:16:57 PM
Getting back to the PS Classic fiasco: Has anyone here who sent a return label to USA actually had their item returned yet?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 03, 2019, 12:40:32 PM
Getting back to the PS Classic fiasco: Has anyone here who sent a return label to USA actually had their item returned yet?
I know you're asking about USA, but I'll give my data points on MYS.

I had 2 amazon orders of 1 each @$99 (that had been processed/paid out already) and 3 orders of 3 each @$75 that were not checked in yet by the time this whole thing blew up. I also had 1 at Gamestop that was already processed, but they decided to eat the loss there. At their direction, I printed return labels for all 5 amazon orders. Then they said they can only handle the checked in orders. They deducted the payment for those around 10 days ago, crediting back $5 for each item and the shipping charge I reported as well. Of those 2, only one has actually been shipped back - the other they guaranteed they'll send out by the end of today. The wait was not ideal - not including the time the money was technically in my account until it was debited again, I'm essentially floating the money for the orders for a full month. Seems like it'll work itself out in the end though, and with the initial commission plus the return bonus it was still worthwhile.

When I asked about the other orders, they said they're sending them back without opening them, and have already done so for 2 of the 3 (which were UPS). Unfortunately, there were other items in the 2 orders they returned, and they didn't bother asking for details before sending them back. Hopefully I get a full refund from Amazon for everything in each package - if not obviously I'm taking it up with MYS again.

I definitely understand the desire to refuse to accept the sealed packages (so as to save on return shipping), but I think it was done a little sloppily. They probably should have checked with the buyers for each package to see what was in each one first and make sure the buyer agrees.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LNS on January 03, 2019, 12:46:20 PM
Getting back to the PS Classic fiasco: Has anyone here who sent a return label to USA actually had their item returned yet?
Yep i have... I sent them label they returned i was already refunded by amazon and USA sent check for $3 bucks for each one
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Caliaravos on January 03, 2019, 12:49:51 PM
Amazon should be the easiest to return. They usually refund you as soon as the shipping lable is scanned when it's picked up.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 03, 2019, 12:50:25 PM
I know you're asking about USA, but I'll give my data points on MYS.

I had 2 amazon orders of 1 each @$99 (that had been processed/paid out already) and 3 orders of 3 each @$75 that were not checked in yet by the time this whole thing blew up. I also had 1 at Gamestop that was already processed, but they decided to eat the loss there. At their direction, I printed return labels for all 5 amazon orders. Then they said they can only handle the checked in orders. They deducted the payment for those around 10 days ago, crediting back $5 for each item and the shipping charge I reported as well. Of those 2, only one has actually been shipped back - the other they guaranteed they'll send out by the end of today. The wait was not ideal - not including the time the money was technically in my account until it was debited again, I'm essentially floating the money for the orders for a full month. Seems like it'll work itself out in the end though, and with the initial commission plus the return bonus it was still worthwhile.

When I asked about the other orders, they said they're sending them back without opening them, and have already done so for 2 of the 3 (which were UPS). Unfortunately, there were other items in the 2 orders they returned, and they didn't bother asking for details before sending them back. Hopefully I get a full refund from Amazon for everything in each package - if not obviously I'm taking it up with MYS again.

I definitely understand the desire to refuse to accept the sealed packages (so as to save on return shipping), but I think it was done a little sloppily. They probably should have checked with the buyers for each package to see what was in each one first and make sure the buyer agrees.
Theyíre still paying the commission?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: BerB on January 03, 2019, 12:51:34 PM
Yep i have... I sent them label they returned i was already refunded by amazon and USA sent check for $3 bucks for each one
I sent them the labels right away, for 3 PSCs. None of them have been returned yet. That's annoying me alot more than their request (demand) to return them.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LNS on January 03, 2019, 12:59:41 PM
I sent them the labels right away, for 3 PSCs. None of them have been returned yet. That's annoying me alot more than their request (demand) to return them.

yea thats true it took them a while to get things moving i had to run after them about it for a while in the beginning but when i finally got someone to answer me things moved quick 
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 03, 2019, 01:00:08 PM
I know you're asking about USA, but I'll give my data points on MYS.

I had 2 amazon orders of 1 each @$99 (that had been processed/paid out already) and 3 orders of 3 each @$75 that were not checked in yet by the time this whole thing blew up. I also had 1 at Gamestop that was already processed, but they decided to eat the loss there. At their direction, I printed return labels for all 5 amazon orders. Then they said they can only handle the checked in orders. They deducted the payment for those around 10 days ago, crediting back $5 for each item and the shipping charge I reported as well. Of those 2, only one has actually been shipped back - the other they guaranteed they'll send out by the end of today. The wait was not ideal - not including the time the money was technically in my account until it was debited again, I'm essentially floating the money for the orders for a full month. Seems like it'll work itself out in the end though, and with the initial commission plus the return bonus it was still worthwhile.

When I asked about the other orders, they said they're sending them back without opening them, and have already done so for 2 of the 3 (which were UPS). Unfortunately, there were other items in the 2 orders they returned, and they didn't bother asking for details before sending them back. Hopefully I get a full refund from Amazon for everything in each package - if not obviously I'm taking it up with MYS again.

I definitely understand the desire to refuse to accept the sealed packages (so as to save on return shipping), but I think it was done a little sloppily. They probably should have checked with the buyers for each package to see what was in each one first and make sure the buyer agrees.
My MYS - i had 1 delivered and paid for 99.99 - printed label and waited a while for it to be shipped, was just shipped out today. so amazon will be crediting me back shortly hopefully.
I had another 3 at 74.99 from amazon, still not even scanned in by MYS - waiting for them to scan before i do more labels
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: justaregularguy on January 03, 2019, 01:38:07 PM
How do I get invited to MYS group? Have a new card to ms  :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 03, 2019, 01:39:47 PM
My MYS - i had 1 delivered and paid for 99.99 - printed label and waited a while for it to be shipped, was just shipped out today. so amazon will be crediting me back shortly hopefully.
I had another 3 at 74.99 from amazon, still not even scanned in by MYS - waiting for them to scan before i do more labels
Check the original tracking, it's possible they sent it back (ie refuse shipment).
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on January 03, 2019, 01:44:40 PM
Getting back to the PS Classic fiasco: Has anyone here who sent a return label to USA actually had their item returned yet?
Yes for 1/5 orders..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 03, 2019, 02:03:18 PM
Check the original tracking, it's possible they sent it back (ie refuse shipment).
Delivered 12/19 not refused
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochada on January 03, 2019, 02:15:10 PM
Anyone here using YRCW group?

Yes
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 03, 2019, 02:15:30 PM
Delivered 12/19 not refused
Which carrier?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochada on January 03, 2019, 02:16:17 PM
Yes for 1/5 orders..

USA is notoriously slow and and known for screwing up. I've barely done any business with them and every time I had, they messed up. Moved on....Let's not discus the 19 box order they posted the wrong link and took a week to tell me it's my fault....
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on January 03, 2019, 02:21:12 PM
Check the original tracking, it's possible they sent it back (ie refuse shipment).
good point.
Just checked my trackings and they are on the way back.
Interesting that they were delivered to Wilmington and rejected from New Castle.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 03, 2019, 02:22:21 PM
good point.
Just checked my trackings and they are on the way back.
Interesting that they were delivered to Wilmington and rejected from New Castle.
The new warehouse must be the sole staging point going forward. So they probably trucked everything over.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 03, 2019, 02:24:35 PM
Yes

They are way slower than MYS in every aspect and thereís no user interface to keep track of stuff like MYS. I havenít used them much but already one package that Amazon delivered they cannot find. So now I have the burden to ask Amazon to reship. 
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 03, 2019, 02:26:19 PM
Which carrier?
UPS. 3 classics and ue boom in the box too. signed by wilbur
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chayie on January 03, 2019, 02:27:45 PM
Anyone here using YRCW group?
Yes, and very happy! No issues!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: User6669 on January 03, 2019, 02:29:55 PM
How do I get invited to MYS group? Have a new card to ms  :)
mysbuyinggroup.com
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 03, 2019, 02:32:07 PM
They are way slower than MYS in every aspect and thereís no user interface to keep track of stuff like MYS. I havenít used them much but already one package that Amazon delivered they cannot find. So now I have the burden to ask Amazon to reship.
Speaking of interface, I'm curious who developed it for them. MYS and PM seem to use the exact same one.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 03, 2019, 02:33:28 PM
UPS. 3 classics and ue boom in the box too. signed by wilbur
Same for me (signed by someone else though). If you don't want them to return the UE Boom, maybe try reaching out preemptively. They probably won't care because it costs them more to open the box and send back just the PS, but it's worth a shot.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: BerB on January 03, 2019, 02:55:13 PM
....Let's not discus the 19 box order they posted the wrong link and took a week to tell me it's my fault....
Just curious, what item was this for?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 03, 2019, 03:49:59 PM
Problem is with that, guys have other stuff in the box that they don't want to be returned and were not gonna refuse boxes without our buyers permission
@Markmann20
What happened to not refusing boxes without permission? I had it with 2 boxes, and sruly reports the same on one of his.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 03, 2019, 03:54:34 PM
How do they know which box to refuse?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on January 03, 2019, 03:54:35 PM
Just curious, what item was this for?
Fire tablet.

They posted the wrong link and many people didn't catch the mistake until they were shipped out.

Of course they refused to own up to their mistake.
That was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.
Left their group and haven't looked back since.
Good riddance
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: shulem92 on January 03, 2019, 03:57:23 PM
How do they know which box to refuse?
tracking numbers
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 03, 2019, 04:02:29 PM
tracking numbers
The buyer told them which tracking number to refuse?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: BerB on January 03, 2019, 04:05:55 PM
Fire tablet.

They posted the wrong link and many people didn't catch the mistake until they were shipped out.

Of course they refused to own up to their mistake.
That was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.
Left their group and haven't looked back since.
Good riddance
This was the red one that was supposed to be black? I did the same thing and I thought it had been my mistake. LOL.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Batman on January 03, 2019, 04:12:59 PM
Problem with MS groups it takes too much time and follow up
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Shotguns on January 03, 2019, 04:19:23 PM
I am not sure why everyone is hating on the buying groups. People make mistakes and learn from them. It is all part of growing a business. You have to understand that there are millions yes millions of dollars worth of products that are shipped to them and mistakes happen.

The links to the products on their website is for your convenience so you do not have to find the product yourself. Don't you think that you as the buyer should verify that the product is in fact the correct one.

I am not affiliated with any of the buying groups in any way whatsoever but I hate to see people and their businesses treated in such a way.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 03, 2019, 04:21:39 PM
Did, if someone sends me a link saying 'buy this', he better accept responsibility if he in fact meant 'but something else'.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Shotguns on January 03, 2019, 04:24:15 PM
If someone says buy a product and says the product is XYZ, yet mistakenly sends a link to a different product, it should be understood as a common mistake.

Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 03, 2019, 04:42:38 PM
If someone says buy a product and says the product is XYZ, yet mistakenly sends a link to a different product, it should be understood as a common mistake.
I agree. I think buyer has culpability if the text and link mismatch or price is mislabeled in the text vs on the website. If anything is off, you should be asking not just buying. If the entire post describes and links to an incorrect item, then it's the group's responsibility.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 03, 2019, 04:56:13 PM
I agree. I think buyer has culpability if the text and link mismatch or price is mislabeled in the text vs on the website. If anything is off, you should be asking not just buying. If the entire post describes and links to an incorrect item, then it's the group's responsibility.
+1
There are also sometimes fine nuances like kindles that come in a trillion versions or things like that where the product description is very similar to the link, then yes they should be responsible as well.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 03, 2019, 05:06:02 PM
When was this issue with the fire's? Wasn't it a long time ago? I thought we moved on to PSCgate.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 03, 2019, 05:09:26 PM
+1
There are also sometimes fine nuances like kindles that come in a trillion versions or things like that where the product description is very similar to the link, then yes they should be responsible as well.
+1, we're not talking about a completely different item, and most buyers are not that well versed in the minor differences like colors/specs to notice.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Shotguns on January 03, 2019, 05:33:56 PM
Not well versed in colors. I mean I know we are in the yeshiva system, but we do know colors.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 03, 2019, 05:49:40 PM
Not well versed in colors. I mean I know we are in the yeshiva system, but we do know colors.
Many items get posted where there's one link and they say buy all the colors. If you want only a specific color, you better be darn sure you make that crystal clear in the text, AND make sure you've got the right link.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 03, 2019, 05:55:19 PM
Not well versed in colors. I mean I know we are in the yeshiva system, but we do know colors.
Doesn't look like you're a buyer.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 03, 2019, 05:56:51 PM
People buy these things on the go. a list comes in, you click on every link, add the max to cart, checkout, and done.

Expecting to notice the minor differences between the description and the link is not reasonable IMO.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochada on January 03, 2019, 06:27:14 PM
They are way slower than MYS in every aspect and thereís no user interface to keep track of stuff like MYS. I havenít used them much but already one package that Amazon delivered they cannot find. So now I have the burden to ask Amazon to reship. I

I've had the exact opposite experience.  Very on top of their game. Plus love how they pay via ACH.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on January 03, 2019, 07:06:30 PM

The links to the products on their website is for your convenience so you do not have to find the product yourself.

ROFL

This comment is ludicrous.

The links are posted so the buyer buys the right item.
It's not a convenience for the buyer.

This isn't chesed organization as some groups like to make themselves out to be.

They can't run their business based on people trying to find all the products on their own.

Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 03, 2019, 07:08:49 PM
Guys buying groups are not a service! I donít know why some have a difficult time understanding this. They post links so that more people will click on it.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on January 03, 2019, 07:30:36 PM
@Markmann20
What happened to not refusing boxes without permission? I had it with 2 boxes, and sruly reports the same on one of his.
I sent them the tracking numbers and recommended they reject it instead of having to deal with the returns.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on January 03, 2019, 07:32:56 PM
"Please note, the current Delaware location is still functional for your shipments, however, our new location is infinitely more equipped to handle large amounts of shipments than our old location, and we encourage you to take advantage of that."

Well I had items delivered Monday and they still didn't scan it in yet... I thought it would be faster @Markmann20?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 03, 2019, 07:41:02 PM
Anyone else get a PM from @HotelPoints about buying groups? Their inbox is full, wondering if itís some type of scam
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 03, 2019, 07:41:20 PM
"Please note, the current Delaware location is still functional for your shipments, however, our new location is infinitely more equipped to handle large amounts of shipments than our old location, and we encourage you to take advantage of that."

Well I had items delivered Monday and they still didn't scan it in yet... I thought it would be faster @Markmann20?


+1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 03, 2019, 07:46:38 PM
Anyone else get a PM from @HotelPoints about buying groups? Their inbox is full, wondering if itís some type of scam
Yea, seems like a scammer to me.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 03, 2019, 08:18:41 PM
I sent them the tracking numbers and recommended they reject it instead of having to deal with the returns.
Ah, that's different then, I had misunderstood your post. I sent them the tracking numbers too, but it was in the clear context of matching them up with the return labels I had uploaded, not so they should reject it. I'm all for saving them money if it doesn't come out of my pocket, but they haven't credited my account for the returns as was my understanding ($5 per unit). I assume they will do just that with a little cajoling, and that'll be the end of it, but it still doesn't keep to what they said - no rejecting packages without permission.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: regular on January 03, 2019, 08:31:03 PM
ROFL

This comment is ludicrous.

The links are posted so the buyer buys the right item.
It's not a convenience for the buyer.

They can't run their business based on people trying to find all the products on their own.
+1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 03, 2019, 08:56:22 PM
I sent them the tracking numbers and recommended they reject it instead of having to deal with the returns.
So you expected them to take out the other product and then reject the PS? i don't think that's possible.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 04, 2019, 09:13:41 AM
I assume they will do just that with a little cajoling, and that'll be the end of it, but it still doesn't keep to what they said - no rejecting packages without permission.

They just sent this out

Quote
This message is in reference to the PS Classic console.
As many items had yet to be properly scanned into our portal, a large amount of buyers simply requested that we refuse their delivery from UPS, thus resulting in the item being return to "Sender", and Amazon will issue a full refund.
This was the simpler alternative to going through the steps of receiving, scanning into proper account, and only thereafter working with buyers to try to return them.
Upon doing so, our warehouse in Delaware refused several pallets of merchandise, and with that, many items were inadvertently "refused" for buyers items, with whom we did not yet properly communicate.

We ask you to please reach out to MYS Support if you have any questions or concerns.
Please note, you should be getting a FULL refund from Amazon for these returns.
We appreciate your support.
MYS Team
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mordyk on January 04, 2019, 10:39:12 AM
They just sent this out
and if amazon doesnt want to give you money for the return just suck it up and buy more for us because we think we own you...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: BerB on January 04, 2019, 10:42:43 AM
and if amazon doesnt want to give you money for the return just suck it up and buy more for us because we think we own you...
If a package is rejected, it automatically gets refunded. It's not the same as an RMA.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on January 04, 2019, 10:48:37 AM
"Please note, the current Delaware location is still functional for your shipments, however, our new location is infinitely more equipped to handle large amounts of shipments than our old location, and we encourage you to take advantage of that."

Well I had items delivered Monday and they still didn't scan it in yet... I thought it would be faster @Markmann20?

+1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: justaregularguy on January 04, 2019, 03:30:31 PM
Does retailmenot work in conjunction with ebates or befrugal?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on January 05, 2019, 06:48:34 PM
Does retailmenot work in conjunction with ebates or befrugal?
don't believe so
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: justaregularguy on January 05, 2019, 07:13:25 PM
don't believe so
thank you
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 05, 2019, 08:21:49 PM
If a package is rejected, it automatically gets refunded. It's not the same as an RMA.
I had shipping charges deducted for some reason. I can probably fight it with amazon, but I don't see why it should be my responsibility. I already asked MYS to credit me for the charges.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: m65 on January 06, 2019, 10:26:47 AM
@markmann
i believe amazon does track serial numbers, on the order details it says them clearly, how do u plan on returning the consoles?
when will u start keeping track of serials? u gotta get up to date...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on January 06, 2019, 10:32:33 AM
@markmann
i believe amazon does track serial numbers, on the order details it says them clearly, how do u plan on returning the consoles?
when will u start keeping track of serials? u gotta get up to date...
I have returned many items where it said they track the serial number and the one i sent was a different one and never had a problem
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on January 06, 2019, 10:35:28 AM
I have returned many items where it said they track the serial number and the one i sent was a different one and never had a problem
Until you do.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: m65 on January 06, 2019, 10:55:40 AM
@markmann
why are packages showing delivered on december 18 not showing up yet, this is crazy!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on January 06, 2019, 11:05:17 AM
@markmann
why are packages showing delivered on december 18 not showing up yet, this is crazy!
@markmann20

+1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 06, 2019, 11:20:44 AM
They were closed dec 24-25, and i assume around New year's as well.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: m65 on January 06, 2019, 02:26:16 PM
They were closed dec 24-25, and i assume around New year's as well.
we're talking almost 3 weeks already
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on January 06, 2019, 09:29:56 PM
@Markmann20 whens the raffle taking place? im looking for a trip to israel  ;D
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on January 06, 2019, 09:31:41 PM
@Markmann20 whens the raffle taking place? im looking for a trip to israel  ;D

In the next week or two will have it
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 07, 2019, 04:42:24 AM
Which Date Is MYS Up To  If I Have A Product That Was Delivered On Dec 18 Was It Supposed To Be Scanned In Yet
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on January 07, 2019, 09:57:31 AM
Which Date Is MYS Up To  If I Have A Product That Was Delivered On Dec 18 Was It Supposed To Be Scanned In Yet

Which Warehouse did you ship to
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on January 07, 2019, 10:33:30 AM
Which Warehouse did you ship to
old one.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on January 07, 2019, 11:14:19 AM
@Markmann20 whens the raffle taking place? im looking for a trip to israel  ;D
dinner at the loft for me
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 07, 2019, 11:38:11 AM
Which Warehouse did you ship to
@Markmann20 I Shipped To Wilmington
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on January 07, 2019, 12:49:41 PM
dinner at the loft for me

You want that over israel or cash prizes?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Shotguns on January 07, 2019, 06:48:46 PM
Slow time for deals now.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on January 07, 2019, 07:39:19 PM
Slow time for deals now.

And that's why I don't understand how they are still at least 10 days behind
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on January 08, 2019, 01:55:45 AM
And that's why I don't understand how they are still at least 10 days behind
Lol. Basic lack of money. Totally not right of these buying groups. רובם גנבי הם
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chevron on January 08, 2019, 03:33:40 AM
Their buyers were likely closed from Christmas to New year's etc so by it's been a challenge for them to move goods is my guess.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on January 08, 2019, 04:03:44 AM
Slow time for deals now.
Every year at this time.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 08, 2019, 07:30:23 AM
Slow time for deals now.
Yup But Dont Worry Their Gonna Have More Deals
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 08, 2019, 09:43:06 AM
Lol. Basic lack of money. Totally not right of these buying groups. רובם גנבי הם
Bold statement to make without any DP's.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on January 08, 2019, 11:29:30 AM
Does anyone here buy for Joe Tress/Jazzer/Trinc it? I'm wondering what experiences ppl have?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on January 08, 2019, 11:54:21 AM
Does anyone here buy for Joe Tress/Jazzer/Trinc it? I'm wondering what experiences ppl have?
I do.
Almost exclusively.
Never had a problem, or heard of someone that did.
I may be a little biased, but that is the truth.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on January 08, 2019, 12:00:00 PM
I do.
Almost exclusively.
Never had a problem, or heard of someone that did.
I may be a little biased, but that is the truth.
Prob is the truth, I've heard good things about him.
But his requirement to email him after every single order seems like a PITA, especially since there's a lot of order cancellations in this industry
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on January 08, 2019, 12:25:51 PM
Prob is the truth, I've heard good things about him.
But his requirement to email him after every single order seems like a PITA, especially since there's a lot of order cancellations in this industry
If shipping to Delaware you only have to fill out a form once it ships.
I doubt he needs an email for every order placed probably would want once order ships or if he specifically asks to confirm all orders placed.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 08, 2019, 01:18:38 PM
If shipping to Delaware you only have to fill out a form once it ships.
I doubt he needs an email for every order placed probably would want once order ships or if he specifically asks to confirm all orders placed.
Its Very Simple Just C/p The Tracking Number (Which The Other Goups Require As Well) And Fill Out The Google Form How Much He Owes
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 08, 2019, 01:30:06 PM
Its Very Simple Just C/p The Tracking Number (Which The Other Goups Require As Well) And Fill Out The Google Form How Much He Owes
-1 MYS does not require tracking
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Aaroncar on January 08, 2019, 02:32:13 PM
@Markmann20
What happened to not refusing boxes without permission? I had it with 2 boxes, and sruly reports the same on one of his.
same with me with 2 boxes, the whole time he was telling me they will scan soon and instead i checked recently tracking and saw they were refused without my knowledge.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on January 08, 2019, 03:00:55 PM
Its Very Simple Just C/p The Tracking Number (Which The Other Goups Require As Well) And Fill Out The Google Form How Much He Owes
While it may be simple and may only take a minute, it's ridiculous to expect everyone to have to email him for every single order. If your making $30+ on an order, fine. But 90% of orders your making less than $10, even after factoring in cashback and portals.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on January 08, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
If shipping to Delaware you only have to fill out a form once it ships.
I doubt he needs an email for every order placed probably would want once order ships or if he specifically asks to confirm all orders placed.
You said you buy for him almost exclusively. Doesn't he say you must confirm every order?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 08, 2019, 03:26:20 PM
And that's why I don't understand how they are still at least 10 days behind
They seem to be working like crazy the past 3 days. I have gotten almost all me DE orders checked in these past few days!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: normathej on January 08, 2019, 03:30:09 PM
They seem to be working like crazy the past 3 days. I have gotten almost all me DE orders checked in these past few days!

My last two orders were just checked in as well.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on January 08, 2019, 03:42:14 PM
They seem to be working like crazy the past 3 days. I have gotten almost all me DE orders checked in these past few days!
Either that or they just got cash from Amazon or someone else.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on January 08, 2019, 03:56:28 PM
You said you buy for him almost exclusively. Doesn't he say you must confirm every order?
The point of confirming the order is that you don't buy it for someone else and dump it on him. Or if the price goes up.
I confirm shipped orders usually.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochada on January 08, 2019, 04:59:48 PM
-1 MYS does not require tracking

MYS, PM and the like provide you with a unique ID, therefore your tracking info isn't necessarily required.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 08, 2019, 05:00:38 PM
You don't need to put your ID either, name is enough.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on January 08, 2019, 05:21:06 PM
They have a convenient tab for order management so that you can keep track of what was delivered and what was not.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 08, 2019, 05:22:51 PM
They have a convenient tab for order management so that you can keep track of what was delivered and what was not.
Dunno about you, but for me it's been useless. It appears to only show things once they've been checked in and a receipt has been generated. The receipt page is great, but it doesn't tell you if something has been delivered and not checked in yet.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: BerB on January 08, 2019, 08:25:33 PM
Dunno about you, but for me it's been useless. It appears to only show things once they've been checked in and a receipt has been generated. The receipt page is great, but it doesn't tell you if something has been delivered and not checked in yet.
How do you expect them to know that something is delivered before it gets checked in?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 08, 2019, 11:38:37 PM
How do you expect them to know that something is delivered before it gets checked in?
I don't expect them to - though obviously they can just check the tracking number, same as me. I'm not saying they need to do that, I'm just saying the order management tab that was mentioned in the post before mine seems useless.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bznt on January 08, 2019, 11:58:17 PM
I don't expect them to - though obviously they can just check the tracking number, same as me. I'm not saying they need to do that, I'm just saying the order management tab that was mentioned in the post before mine seems useless.
The only benefit of the order management that I see, is that it will eliminate errors when scanning in orders because you claim the tracking number to your account
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Jack - NJ on January 09, 2019, 02:35:41 AM
The only benefit of the order management that I see, is that it will eliminate errors when scanning in orders because you claim the tracking number to your account

Also helpful if you forgot to place your buyer ID on an order.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Jack - NJ on January 09, 2019, 02:37:24 AM
MYS, PM and the like provide you with a unique ID, therefore your tracking info isn't necessarily required.
USA too, just they provide a crazy username which makes it annoying to use in an order.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on January 09, 2019, 07:56:46 AM
The only benefit of the order management that I see, is that it will eliminate errors when scanning in orders because you claim the tracking number to your account
Also speeds the receiving process up for them (which ends up benefiting you), since scanning the tracking pulls your account right up and they can just start scanning the item barcodes right away.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 09, 2019, 08:36:06 AM
Order Management Makes It Easier To See Which Items Were Not Scaned It Yet As Well
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 09, 2019, 02:36:44 PM
Order Management Makes It Easier To See Which Items Were Not Scaned It Yet As Well
+1, easy way to see how many outstanding orders you still have.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 09, 2019, 03:53:15 PM
+1, easy way to see how many outstanding orders you still have.
Meh. I keep a spreadsheet anyway, that allows to keep track of a lot more than the site does. If you're not doing that, I guess I can see how order management can be of use.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on January 09, 2019, 06:54:21 PM
Does anyone have Amazon echo device delivery date well into February?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 09, 2019, 06:55:41 PM
Does anyone have Amazon echo device delivery date well into February?
A lot of times they will move it up, they just like to cover themselves.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: halperng on January 09, 2019, 11:45:34 PM
Does anyone here buy for Joe Tress/Jazzer/Trinc it? I'm wondering what experiences ppl have?

I do.
Almost exclusively.
Never had a problem, or heard of someone that did.
I may be a little biased, but that is the truth.

where to sign up please? i need more groups
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ajpl on January 10, 2019, 01:19:25 AM
where to sign up please? i need more groups

^^^ same
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Moshe26 on January 10, 2019, 08:37:05 AM
Is the a way to take some legal action against a buying group which posted to buy something (from Amazon) and now are making you returned bc the deal they ran wasn't good? Returning the items isn't really an option bc we're talking about 100k worth of items
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 10, 2019, 08:53:36 AM
Is the a way to take some legal action against a buying group which posted to buy something (from Amazon) and now are making you returned bc the deal they ran wasn't good? Returning the items isn't really an option bc we're talking about 100k worth of items

I donít have an answer, but how do you buy from Amazon such a great quantity?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Moshe26 on January 10, 2019, 09:05:17 AM
I donít have an answer, but how do you buy from Amazon such a great quantity?
There was a glich and was able to order 30 at a time
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bb1836 on January 10, 2019, 09:08:46 AM
Is the a way to take some legal action against a buying group which posted to buy something (from Amazon) and now are making you returned bc the deal they ran wasn't good? Returning the items isn't really an option bc we're talking about 100k worth of items
About which item are you talking?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Moshe26 on January 10, 2019, 09:18:51 AM
About which item are you talking?
Some apple watch. Wasn't for mys pm or USA. Different group
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on January 10, 2019, 09:25:22 AM
Is the a way to take some legal action against a buying group which posted to buy something (from Amazon) and now are making you returned bc the deal they ran wasn't good? Returning the items isn't really an option bc we're talking about 100k worth of items

did they know you were buying that many? a lot of groups will see if an item is normally qty limited on amazon and send out to their buyers with a general expectation of how many will be bought. if somehow it glitches out and lets you buy a ton they may not be expecting that.

either way why can't you return it. have them pay return fees and don't do business with them again if it was their fault.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Moshe26 on January 10, 2019, 09:56:12 AM
did they know you were buying that many? a lot of groups will see if an item is normally qty limited on amazon and send out to their buyers with a general expectation of how many will be bought. if somehow it glitches out and lets you buy a ton they may not be expecting that.
the rule in buying groups is buy as many as you can unless told otherwise. in this case they posted a bad deal for them and they are trying to get out of it by rejecting/forcing ppl to return the items.


either way why can't you return it. have them pay return fees and don't do business with them again if it was their fault.
returning over 100K worth of stuff will raise a red flag with amazon and will potentially risk account shut down and I cant afford that since I run my business thru them.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 10, 2019, 10:18:30 AM
Any reason you can't post which group this is?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: aygart on January 10, 2019, 10:32:20 AM
the rule in buying groups is buy as many as you can unless told otherwise. in this case they posted a bad deal for them and they are trying to get out of it by rejecting/forcing ppl to return the items.returning over 100K worth of stuff will raise a red flag with amazon and will potentially risk account shut down and I cant afford that since I run my business thru them.
And ordering 30 won't raise that flag?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on January 10, 2019, 10:35:01 AM
And ordering 30 won't raise that flag?
Not at all
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chevron on January 10, 2019, 10:36:34 AM
Resell it? Unless it's a Apple product and blocked. Or send me what it is and I'll try to flip it For you
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 10, 2019, 10:38:38 AM
Does anyone have Amazon echo device delivery date well into February?
Yes Makes Sense  We All Have That  It usually Gets Pushed Up
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 10, 2019, 10:39:12 AM
where to sign up please? i need more groups
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 10, 2019, 10:48:51 AM

are you looking for more groups because the big 3 don't have deals now. Don't they all generally have basically the same deals? Does anyone know of a group that actually has deals now. (aside from the Microcenter PM)?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Moshe26 on January 10, 2019, 10:49:32 AM
Resell it? Unless it's a Apple product and blocked. Or send me what it is and I'll try to flip it For you
it is an apple product. still fighting with the guy to take them but no luck so far. PMed in regards to item
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Moshe26 on January 10, 2019, 10:51:46 AM
Any reason you can't post which group this is?
im still trying to work it out with them. if it doesn't work out I will ask my LOR and see if im allowed to warn ppl to not use them
And ordering 30 won't raise that flag?
if its in the limits it shouldn't be an issue. ive done it in the past- ordered 99 items of one thing
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: aygart on January 10, 2019, 10:52:48 AM
Not at all
Okay, this just sounds like a risky game to play when your business depends on your amazon account.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Moshe26 on January 10, 2019, 10:57:52 AM
Okay, this just sounds like a risky game to play when your business depends on your amazon account.
I don't think its risky but we can agree to disagree here.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on January 10, 2019, 11:22:04 AM
the rule in buying groups is buy as many as you can unless told otherwise. in this case they posted a bad deal for them and they are trying to get out of it by rejecting/forcing ppl to return the items.returning over 100K worth of stuff will raise a red flag with amazon and will potentially risk account shut down and I cant afford that since I run my business thru them.

You missed my point. there was a glitch allowing some accounts to order 999 of a certain item pre-black friday and the buying groups were not expecting that king of volume when most accounts were limited to 3.

I don't think its risky but we can agree to disagree here.


you also are playing with fire as Aygart mentioned above. I hope you are not also shipping to DE because after this return season and "missing packages fiascos" I bet amazon evaluates whether or not its worth it to ship to these buying groups.


Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 10, 2019, 11:28:34 AM
I don't think its risky but we can agree to disagree here.
Not risky? What do you call this situation you're in right now?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chayie on January 10, 2019, 11:34:31 AM
Any reason you can't post which group this is?
might it be because it could be Halachically impermissible???
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on January 10, 2019, 11:42:26 AM
Okay, this just sounds like a risky game to play when your business depends on your amazon account.
+1

Pretty stupid to risk your own business for someone else's, unless your one of those who believes the buying groups are chesed organization's
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Moshe26 on January 10, 2019, 11:47:20 AM
You missed my point. there was a glitch allowing some accounts to order 999 of a certain item pre-black friday and the buying groups were not expecting that king of volume when most accounts were limited to 3.


after all might not really be a glich bc you can still order 30 at a time. but I hear you.


you also are playing with fire as Aygart mentioned above. I hope you are not also shipping to DE because after this return season and "missing packages fiascos" I bet amazon evaluates whether or not its worth it to ship to these buying groups.
I haven't had issues with shipping to DE at all but I hear it might not be the best idea after BF. and again this is why returning the items is a last resort- and this is why I asked if there are any legal action I can take to force the buyers hand and take the merchandise
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 10, 2019, 11:49:06 AM
I would highly doubt there is anything you can do legally as there is no written contract or agreement. Halachically though there may be Mi Shepara.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on January 10, 2019, 11:54:47 AM
and this is why I asked if there are any legal action I can take to force the buyers hand and take the merchandise
The answer to this is definitely no
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Moshe26 on January 10, 2019, 12:01:03 PM
I would highly doubt there is anything you can do legally as there is no written contract or agreement. Halachically though there may be Mi Shepara.
The answer to this is definitely no
thanks that's all I wanted to know
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 10, 2019, 12:06:57 PM
The answer to this is definitely no
Would you kindly elaborate?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on January 10, 2019, 12:08:47 PM
Would you kindly elaborate?
ill let you do the honors
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 10, 2019, 12:11:29 PM
Would you kindly elaborate?
On what basis would the answer not be no?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 10, 2019, 12:12:57 PM
ill let you do the honors
I'm interested in your rationale for "definitely no."
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on January 10, 2019, 12:18:47 PM
I'm interested in your rationale for "definitely no."
My rational was they just put out a deal telling you to buy the item. Its not like they signed a contract with you. The whole buying group concept is based on trust. Also as the buyer you know you are doing a grey area item by helping someone circumvent limits so I dont know how a court would look at that as well, but I cant imagine them ruling in your favor.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 10, 2019, 12:30:47 PM
The whole buying group concept is based on trust.
Hence the Mi Shepara
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 10, 2019, 12:47:14 PM


My rational was they just put out a deal telling you to buy the item. Its not like they signed a contract with you. The whole buying group concept is based on trust. Also as the buyer you know you are doing a grey area item by helping someone circumvent limits so I dont know how a court would look at that as well, but I cant imagine them ruling in your favor.

All I will say is that contracts do not need to be written (outside of a few exceptions not relevant here). Further, contracts can be implied by past dealings.

Take that for what you will, but it is in no way legal advice. For that you must retain an attorney.
Title: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on January 10, 2019, 12:59:06 PM
Take that for what you will, but it is in no way legal advice. For that you must retain an attorney.
Why do you think we keep you around?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 10, 2019, 01:11:11 PM

All I will say is that contracts do not need to be written (outside of a few exceptions not relevant here). Further, contracts can be implied by past dealings.

Take that for what you will, but it is in no way legal advice. For that you must retain an attorney.
CMIIW, even if he has a case, the legal fees would be astronomical. Therefore in all practicality legal recourse isnít really a viable option.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Shotguns on January 10, 2019, 01:13:18 PM
Small claims court is pretty cheap
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 10, 2019, 01:14:10 PM
Small claims court is pretty cheap
Can you do 100k in small claims court?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: aygart on January 10, 2019, 01:24:50 PM
I would highly doubt there is anything you can do legally as there is no written contract or agreement. Halachically though there may be Mi Shepara.
I think that in a din torah it would be more if it is shipped directly to the group. The buyer may be considered a shliach. (Disclaimer: I don't typically take choshen mishpat shaylos)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on January 10, 2019, 01:29:37 PM
MYS just sent out:
As such, MYS is offering the OPTION to you to return this item. We will be issuing a $5 account credit for each returned unit.
just curious how they plan on doing this for rejected packages that were return before they were ever scanned in.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on January 10, 2019, 01:35:02 PM
just curious how they plan on doing this for rejected packages that were return before they were ever scanned in.
Open a ticket with support, send them tracking details showing delivered and proof of purchase with order quantity.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gingyguy on January 10, 2019, 02:34:25 PM
(Disclaimer: I don't typically take choshen mishpat shaylos)
you should make this part of your signature
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: shulem92 on January 10, 2019, 02:58:08 PM
Returning over 100K worth of stuff will raise a red flag with amazon and will potentially risk account shut down and I cant afford that since I run my business thru them.
not sure why u didnt just open a different amazon account, just for buying groups. never mix buying and selling accounts!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on January 10, 2019, 03:01:10 PM
not sure why u didnt just open a different amazon account, just for buying groups. never mix buying and selling accounts!
When they decide to shut you down, they'll close everything.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on January 10, 2019, 03:03:56 PM
When they decide to shut you down, they'll close everything.
You can keep it completely separate but it's extremely difficult, you need a separate computer, internet connection, etc. and you can never cross any information or log on to both accounts from the same device.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 10, 2019, 03:04:55 PM
You can keep it completely separate but it's extremely difficult, you need a separate computer, internet connection, etc. and you can never cross any information or log on to both accounts from the same device.
Yup. Same IP address with 2 (unauthorized) accounts will get you shut down even if youíre not doing anything shady (yeah right)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on January 10, 2019, 03:05:52 PM
Yup. Same IP address with 2 (unauthorized) accounts will get you shut down even if youíre not doing anything shady (yeah right)
Only biz accounts though, not personal accounts.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: shulem92 on January 10, 2019, 03:07:01 PM
When they decide to shut you down, they'll close everything.
i just meant to open a random account under a random persons name (since youre inly shipping to DE...
You can keep it completely separate but it's extremely difficult, you need a separate computer, internet connection, etc. and you can never cross any information or log on to both accounts from the same device.
it isnt so difficult, you just have to follow the rules ;)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bznt on January 10, 2019, 03:10:26 PM
Switching topic

I went to a BB store and used a app to generate a barcode for the tax exempt but it did not remove the tax.
I remember a while back I did it manually, they had to press a tax exempt button and then either enter or scan the tax exempt card and it worked.
Here they scanned the barcode and they just said that maybe the tax exempt expired
Any ideas ?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 10, 2019, 03:11:44 PM
Switching topic

I went to a BB store and used a app to generate a barcode for the tax exempt but it did not remove the tax.
I remember a while back I did it manually, they had to press a tax exempt button and then either enter or scan the tax exempt card and it worked.
Here they scanned the barcode and they just said that maybe the tax exempt expired
Any ideas ?
What app?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bznt on January 10, 2019, 03:12:19 PM
What app?
Stocard on iOS
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on January 10, 2019, 03:13:21 PM
Switching topic

I went to a BB store and used a app to generate a barcode for the tax exempt but it did not remove the tax.
I remember a while back I did it manually, they had to press a tax exempt button and then either enter or scan the tax exempt card and it worked.
Here they scanned the barcode and they just said that maybe the tax exempt expired
Any ideas ?

Just get your own quick card? I asked MYS for the papers and then went into the store where they gave me my own card on the spot.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bznt on January 10, 2019, 03:17:50 PM
Just get your own quick card? I asked MYS for the papers and then went into the store where they gave me my own card on the spot.
Will try that. Thank you
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 10, 2019, 03:20:02 PM
Just get your own quick card? I asked MYS for the papers and then went into the store where they gave me my own card on the spot.
+1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Willie on January 10, 2019, 03:34:46 PM
Just get your own quick card? I asked MYS for the papers and then went into the store where they gave me my own card on the spot.
+2 and my orders are actually going through.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 10, 2019, 03:37:04 PM
Just get your own quick card? I asked MYS for the papers and then went into the store where they gave me my own card on the spot.
Really?? ANy tax filings for you?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on January 10, 2019, 04:14:34 PM
Yup. Same IP address with 2 (unauthorized) accounts will get you shut down even if youíre not doing anything shady (yeah right)
Only biz accounts though, not personal accounts.
Buying or selling?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bb1836 on January 10, 2019, 04:18:03 PM
Pointsmaker hasn't sent out anything in a while... what's up?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on January 10, 2019, 05:18:46 PM
Game stop is tricky those were just gonna swallow the loss as they due track serials

Theres a lot going on in warehouse all three of them and I was there yesterday they were processing a lot of returns to go back doing as quick and efficiently as possible
Nay update? I still have items from 3 weeks ago not checked in yet. Plz update.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Fish Tank on January 10, 2019, 06:28:43 PM
Not risky? What do you call this situation you're in right now?
Exactly what I was thinking. You've got to be a big risk taker to use your business account to order for buying groups/ship to DE.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 10, 2019, 06:35:30 PM
Really?? ANy tax filings for you?
Why would it be any different? Either way youíre clearly an agent for the tax-exempt reselling company, except this way, youíre actually doing it the legal/required way
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: halperng on January 10, 2019, 07:33:23 PM
can anybody help a newb out with links to the buying groups please. If you don't want to post them here then just PM me. so far im in MYS and already did the echo deals and pointsmaker. need links to the rest please. thank you
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: justaregularguy on January 10, 2019, 08:27:34 PM
how would you be able to price match while using retialmenot and/or ebates? is that possible? put the whole thing through with best buy or wherever and then email them a microcenter price to them? :-\
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ConfusionIsKey on January 11, 2019, 01:41:01 AM
can anybody help a newb out with links to the buying groups please. If you don't want to post them here then just PM me. so far im in MYS and already did the echo deals and pointsmaker. need links to the rest please. thank you

I'm in the same boat, and looking for more options. If you hear of any more please send a PM.

Thank you
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: myi on January 11, 2019, 04:27:43 AM
I'm in the same boat, and looking for more options. If you hear of any more please send a PM.

Thank you
That's what the wiki is for.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on January 11, 2019, 04:48:29 AM
Dear noobs,
There are no other deals on any buying group besides Echo dots and price matching to Micro Center.
Being on another buying group won't help you get more purchases. January is the worst time of year for sales.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on January 11, 2019, 07:47:32 AM
Dear noobs,
There are no other deals on any buying group besides Echo dots and price matching to Micro Center.
Being on another buying group won't help you get more purchases. January is the worst time of year for sales.
+100
And don't expect that much more in the next 2-3 months either, based on previous years experience.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 11, 2019, 08:34:01 AM
Dear noobs,
There are no other deals on any buying group besides Echo dots and price matching to Micro Center.
Being on another buying group won't help you get more purchases. January is the worst time of year for sales.
Lol. Put in the wiki.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Moshe26 on January 11, 2019, 09:24:35 AM
Dear noobs,
There are no other deals on any buying group besides Echo dots and price matching to Micro Center.
Being on another buying group won't help you get more purchases. January is the worst time of year for sales.
actually USA just posted an ipad from BB at 699.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on January 11, 2019, 09:45:19 AM
actually USA just posted an ipad from BB at 699.

Can you please provide a link for those that don't use whatsapp?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 11, 2019, 10:03:53 AM
Can you please provide a link for those that don't use whatsapp?
Itís the same one as before BB just matched Microcenters price.

ETA scratch that, they are no longe buying it.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on January 11, 2019, 10:09:01 AM
Itís the same one as before BB just matched Microcenters price.

Thanks. I wonder why did they deleted it?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 11, 2019, 10:25:47 AM
MYS is and was finally able to use 145 certs and $200 gc i had bought from swych for 90% a couple weeks ago lol
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: US on January 11, 2019, 10:32:25 AM
BTW I have a BB account up and running to MYS DE for about a month (prior to this it's been over a year since I've had success to DE), and I'm signed up for texting. I notice that after initial order text, there is an "order confirmed" text comes seconds later. In my limited sample I've noticed that when I get that text, the order goes through, and when I get cancels, I don't get that text. Anyone else that can confirm or reject this with dp's?
When the order is cancelled you don't get a text?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 11, 2019, 10:36:17 AM
This is embarrassing but I don't have a DP either way on this, I got a new phone 2 days ago and I'm looking at old texts. Ignore me.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on January 11, 2019, 11:03:41 AM
Stuff like this should be scaring everyone off USA
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 11, 2019, 11:10:27 AM
Stuff like this should be scaring everyone off USA
Stuff like what?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on January 11, 2019, 11:31:58 AM
9:21 AM

new iPad post $699.99 with $5 commission. People stop what they are doing and place some orders.

9:50-9:56 message gets deleted.

10:05 - We are no longer buying new iPad.

10:15 - If you already placed an order and its a big deal to cancel you can keep the order but we are only paying $699.99, But if it's not a big deal we kindly request you to cancel the order

shows lack of respect on buyers time and I just can no longer trust them to buy anything for them.

I actually understood the PS classic fiasco (although I think they went about it in a horrible way and if they would have asked for help they would have generated a lot more goodwill).

Goodbye USA, it was fun. Its not me its you
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Shotguns on January 11, 2019, 11:34:21 AM
They may have consulted with MYS Buying Group and reached a mutual agreement to not pay commission.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on January 11, 2019, 11:35:19 AM
They may have consulted with MYS Buying Group and reached a mutual agreement to not pay commission.

doubt it. they would honor in such a case. they dont even want the item. and thats the issue. i cant spend time buying things for them I don't know if I will have to return etc.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 11, 2019, 11:36:16 AM
9:21 AM

new iPad post $699.99 with $5 commission. People stop what they are doing and place some orders.

9:50-9:56 message gets deleted.

10:05 - We are no longer buying new iPad.

10:15 - If you already placed an order and its a big deal to cancel you can keep the order but we are only paying $699.99, But if it's not a big deal we kindly request you to cancel the order

shows lack of respect on buyers time and I just can no longer trust them to buy anything for them.

I actually understood the PS classic fiasco (although I think they went about it in a horrible way and if they would have asked for help they would have generated a lot more goodwill).

Goodbye USA, it was fun. Its not me its you
ALOL on the last line. My chat didnít get the 10:15 update, so all I saw was asking to buy it, and then saying donít buy anymore, but yes I agree horrible customer service. They keep this up and they wonít have any customers left.

Oh but we canít say anything because they are frum!!! And they are doing it all as a favor to us!!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on January 11, 2019, 11:58:51 AM


ALOL on the last line. My chat didnít get the 10:15 update, so all I saw was asking to buy it, and then saying donít buy anymore, but yes I agree horrible customer service. They keep this up and they wonít have any customers left.

Oh but we canít say anything because they are frum!!! And they are doing it all as a favor to us!!

I'm still trying to figure out why they still have people buying for them.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: halperng on January 11, 2019, 12:52:45 PM
That's what the wiki is for.

you mean the wiki that only includes names with no links to sign up with and that aren't available through google search. You can just as easily post the links as you can post your comments
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 11, 2019, 12:56:37 PM
Usabuying.group PM me for referral
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 11, 2019, 01:02:39 PM
Wondering if anyone else is having this issue with MYS. With the other 2 groups (USA and PM) myself and my friend have barely ever had an item that was said to be delivered only to have the group say that it either didnt come or the quantity was wrong. In the rare occasions that it did, the groups readily honored what stated was delivered and issued check immediately. With MYS, however, they just stick to their guns with saying that it was never delivered and that I need to go tell that to Amazon (even though says signed for...and yes I know it is a bulk shipment signature) or if there is a wrong quantity they again just stick to their guns with saying that they have cameras etc and that all their scanners would never make a mistake and that they dont have any extra in inventory that could have possibly been mine etc. and that obviously Amazon was wrong and made a mistake. I am just not comfortable constantly telling this to Amazon especially with being a family account. Wondering if anyone else has noticed this. @Markmann20
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on January 11, 2019, 01:45:04 PM
Wondering if anyone else is having this issue with MYS. With the other 2 groups (USA and PM) myself and my friend have barely ever had an item that was said to be delivered only to have the group say that it either didnt come or the quantity was wrong. In the rare occasions that it did, the groups readily honored what stated was delivered and issued check immediately. With MYS, however, they just stick to their guns with saying that it was never delivered and that I need to go tell that to Amazon (even though says signed for...and yes I know it is a bulk shipment signature) or if there is a wrong quantity they again just stick to their guns with saying that they have cameras etc and that all their scanners would never make a mistake and that they dont have any extra in inventory that could have possibly been mine etc. and that obviously Amazon was wrong and made a mistake. I am just not comfortable constantly telling this to Amazon especially with being a family account. Wondering if anyone else has noticed this. @Markmann20

I have two orders that says delivered but MYS never checked it in. Iím in middle of dealing with them, will post what happens
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on January 11, 2019, 01:52:46 PM
I have two orders that says delivered but MYS never checked it in. Iím in middle of dealing with them, will post what happens
I had it with one order - amazon refunded me even though it was about 4 weeks after they said it was delivered
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 11, 2019, 02:29:44 PM
I have two orders that says delivered but MYS never checked it in. Iím in middle of dealing with them, will post what happens

I have 3. 
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on January 11, 2019, 02:32:57 PM
Wondering if anyone else is having this issue with MYS. With the other 2 groups (USA and PM) myself and my friend have barely ever had an item that was said to be delivered only to have the group say that it either didnt come or the quantity was wrong. In the rare occasions that it did, the groups readily honored what stated was delivered and issued check immediately. With MYS, however, they just stick to their guns with saying that it was never delivered and that I need to go tell that to Amazon (even though says signed for...and yes I know it is a bulk shipment signature) or if there is a wrong quantity they again just stick to their guns with saying that they have cameras etc and that all their scanners would never make a mistake and that they dont have any extra in inventory that could have possibly been mine etc. and that obviously Amazon was wrong and made a mistake. I am just not comfortable constantly telling this to Amazon especially with being a family account. Wondering if anyone else has noticed this. @Markmann20
+1

I have 2 items lost...

Both were signed by ... Yet they claim they don't know who signed it...

I think it's by all groups. But mys has the best communication ability yet communication can be worked on from their part
USA is the same but dealing with them is a headache.


Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chevron on January 11, 2019, 03:46:05 PM
Asking someone to cancel an order or return an item is imho a red flag to never deal with them again
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 11, 2019, 03:53:17 PM
Asking someone to cancel an order or return an item is imho a red flag to never deal with them again

Thatís all the buying groups, in other words.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on January 12, 2019, 07:56:40 PM
Thatís all the buying groups, in other words.
depends how it's done.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 12, 2019, 07:58:47 PM
depends how it's done.


None of them will take ďnoĒ for an answer. 
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bznt on January 12, 2019, 08:16:09 PM
I have a order that was delivered to MYS by amazon delivery with tracking number starting tba which I think itís private shipper.
Sometimes they make a picture of the box when it was delivered.
Well MYS claims they never got it.
They say, who says that this picture is from this package, you canít read the tracking number on the picture.
It was delivered nov 13th and amazon removed the picture now. I guess they donít keep this info for too long.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 12, 2019, 08:19:23 PM
I beginning to think that the only safe way of dealing with buying groups is only buy items that can be shipped to your home and picked up. Too many head aches with deliveries. 
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 12, 2019, 08:25:30 PM
I beginning to think that the only safe way of dealing with buying groups is only buy items that can be shipped to your home and picked up. Too many head aches with deliveries.
Been doing that for years. Never ordered a single item to DE
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 12, 2019, 08:30:30 PM
Been doing that for years. Never ordered a single item to DE
Lucky Smart you
I beginning to think that the only safe way of dealing with buying groups is only buy items that can be shipped to your home and picked up. Too many head aches with deliveries. 
Still not safe, but safest
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 12, 2019, 08:37:25 PM
Also had a friend who had 6 echos delivered, and MYS only scanned in 5, and told him to complain to Amazon.

I don't understand how they can claim with a straight face that their warehouse system is better than Amazon's.

Personally though, i only had good experience with MYS and their support. Both at dropoff and with DE.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bznt on January 12, 2019, 08:41:39 PM
I would like to add that one of my orders they scanned in 1 more then I ordered and paid to amazon. I told them that I paid for 1 less. So they deducted the one right away. I am beginning to regret that
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 12, 2019, 08:42:34 PM
Whatís the typical ETA on receiving checks from MYS? Iím at 13 days from request and still not sent.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 12, 2019, 09:08:49 PM
From Friday:

MYS is pleased to inform you that all packages which have been delivered as of January 9th have been properly scanned in to their appropriate accounts.
Our warehouse staff have been working night and day to bring us up to speed, and we thank you for your continued support and patience.

Additionally, as of this morning, a large number of pending payments have been approved, and were sent out.

We ask you to please open a support ticket if you have any packages not scanned in, or payments not yet sent by days end.
Thank you again!
Good Shabbos,
MYS Team
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: maxie m on January 12, 2019, 11:24:04 PM
I would like to add that one of my orders they scanned in 1 more then I ordered and paid to amazon. I told them that I paid for 1 less. So they deducted the one right away. I am beginning to regret that
I've had that a lot when shipping bb to electro ventures,they always put aside to make sure wasn't credited by accident from warehouse (on someone else's cheshbon)and credit to me if no one else claims it
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mplace on January 12, 2019, 11:50:26 PM
anyone know who's warehouse in de signs ELCHAPO and NNICHOLAS
(2 diff locations)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: myi on January 13, 2019, 12:36:17 AM
Am I the only one here who hates E-checks? Never works at a atm, must go in branch or mobile deposit.

 Curios I can use my blank checks which I have to print the echeck on?
 Or is there a specific paper which is compatible to be used?

 Or am I asking in the wrong place and probably better off emailing the company to see if they offer such an option?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bznt on January 13, 2019, 01:05:28 AM
Am I the only one here who hates E-checks? Never works at a atm, must go in branch or mobile deposit.

 Curios I can use my blank checks which I have to print the echeck on?
 Or is there a specific paper which is compatible to be used?

 Or am I asking in the wrong place and probably better off emailing the company to see if they offer such an option?
Print on regular paper. You donít need special paper or preprinted checks.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Fish Tank on January 13, 2019, 01:11:00 AM
Am I the only one here who hates E-checks? Never works at a atm, must go in branch or mobile deposit.
Why do you prefer the ATM over mobile deposit?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Fish Tank on January 13, 2019, 01:11:29 AM
Thatís all the buying groups, in other words.
You must not be a buyer for pointsmaker.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Jack - NJ on January 13, 2019, 01:40:07 AM
I've had that a lot when shipping bb to electro ventures,they always put aside to make sure wasn't credited by accident from warehouse (on someone else's cheshbon)and credit to me if no one else claims it

What is electro ventures website? Pm pls
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 13, 2019, 01:49:26 AM
Am I the only one here who hates E-checks? Never works at a atm, must go in branch or mobile deposit.

 Curios I can use my blank checks which I have to print the echeck on?
 Or is there a specific paper which is compatible to be used?

 Or am I asking in the wrong place and probably better off emailing the company to see if they offer such an option?
You need to trim a bit off the bottom of the check. Try it works like a charm...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 13, 2019, 02:02:17 AM
Whatís the typical ETA on receiving checks from MYS? Iím at 13 days from request and still not sent.
Get from a dropoff location
You need to trim a bit off the bottom of the check. Try it works like a charm...
Works for me too
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: myi on January 13, 2019, 04:14:51 AM
Print on regular paper. You donít need special paper or preprinted checks.
Reread my post and let's see if you will answer the same?!?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: myi on January 13, 2019, 04:15:37 AM
Why do you prefer the ATM over mobile deposit?
I'm locked out of my mobile banking every Monday and Thursday and only use one bank for buying groups.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: myi on January 13, 2019, 04:15:57 AM
You need to trim a bit off the bottom of the check. Try it works like a charm...
Thanks will try.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on January 13, 2019, 09:24:31 AM
Am I the only one here who hates E-checks? Never works at a atm, must go in branch or mobile deposit.

+1 The E-Checks aren't accepted by M&T Bank ATM but they are by Capital One
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on January 13, 2019, 02:04:55 PM
Are any Bestbuy orders not being canceled shipping to your location? Just got canceled within 5 minutes of placing bestbuy orders.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on January 13, 2019, 02:34:07 PM
They may have consulted with MYS Buying Group and reached a mutual agreement to not pay commission.
They all advertise commission matching. Guess it works both ways  ::)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 13, 2019, 02:39:51 PM
Wouldn't such a move be illegal?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on January 13, 2019, 02:41:29 PM
Wouldn't such a move be illegal?
Wouldn't making multiple orders to bypass the limit be illegal?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Lou Bob on January 13, 2019, 02:45:00 PM
Wouldn't such a move be illegal?
no.
Wouldn't making multiple orders to bypass the limit be illegal?
no
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 13, 2019, 02:48:52 PM
no. no
+1

Why in the world would either be illegal? Price fixing? :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 13, 2019, 02:49:06 PM
no. no
Why isn't it price fixing?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 13, 2019, 02:50:45 PM
Why isn't it price fixing?
Umm. They're paying YOU for a product. Now if YOU agreed with other buyers as to how much you require for commission.. THAT would be price fixing lol.

Not that I think there would be an issue of price fixing either way, just pointing out the irony of calling it price fixing
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on January 13, 2019, 02:54:53 PM

Goodbye USA, it was fun. Its not me its you
Now this is what may make them reconsider their actions.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 13, 2019, 03:03:31 PM
Now this is what may make them reconsider their actions.
Yup. Also, he's not alone.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on January 13, 2019, 04:11:34 PM
Now this is what may make them reconsider their actions.
+1 and he ain't the only one saying goodbye
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 13, 2019, 06:54:47 PM
Yup. Also, he's not alone.
+1 and he ain't the only one saying goodbye
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on January 13, 2019, 08:52:03 PM
You need to trim a bit off the bottom of the check. Try it works like a charm...
It's a recent thing within the last few weeks that I started needing to do this but it works great..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: cholent on January 14, 2019, 01:47:05 AM
If you uncheck "fit to page" before printing you won't have to trim the bottom
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on January 14, 2019, 09:40:25 AM
If you uncheck "fit to page" before printing you won't have to trim the bottom

then my numbers don't print on the page   :P
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Muhammad on January 14, 2019, 12:20:21 PM
Never works at a atm...
works for me, all the time...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: myi on January 14, 2019, 12:58:22 PM
works for me, all the time...
I guess you never used td or chase bank.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Muhammad on January 14, 2019, 01:04:35 PM
I guess you never used td or chase bank.
never used TD but i did use Chase
you just gotta make it fit (cut it to size of regular check)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 14, 2019, 01:44:42 PM
I guess you never used td or chase bank.
Weird because I always use TD and works fine at ATM, however, need to make sure ink/toner on printer is good.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: JunkYardUnz on January 14, 2019, 01:59:39 PM
+1

Why in the world would either be illegal? Price fixing? :)
Here is my conspiracy theory here. All of these  buying groups are owned by the same people.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ah giten on January 14, 2019, 02:03:21 PM
Here is my conspiracy theory here. All of these  buying groups are owned by the same people.
Some even host identical websites
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on January 14, 2019, 02:13:20 PM
Some even host identical websites
I've heard that a lot of them pay for the same system from one guy who developed it.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ah giten on January 14, 2019, 02:41:04 PM
I've heard that a lot of them pay for the same system from one guy who developed it.
Good enough for the conspiracy guy though
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gingyguy on January 14, 2019, 02:43:23 PM
Good enough for the conspiracy guy though
that may be how it started
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Danlover111 on January 14, 2019, 02:53:18 PM
im new to buying groups i tried placing an order from best buy my order got cancelled right away , what did i do wrong

thanks 

 "Unfortunately, we were unable to verify your information, so we canceled item(s) from your order.

For details regarding refunds and credits, see the What You Need to Know section below.

Please accept our apology for this inconvenience. We value you as a customer and hope to see you again soon."

Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 14, 2019, 02:54:29 PM
what did i do wrong
Perseverance
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Willie on January 14, 2019, 02:57:29 PM


im new to buying groups i tried placing an order from best buy my order got cancelled right away , what did i do wrong

thanks 

 "Unfortunately, we were unable to verify your information, so we canceled item(s) from your order.

For details regarding refunds and credits, see the What You Need to Know section below.

Please accept our apology for this inconvenience. We value you as a customer and hope to see you again soon."

Reach out to buying group and ask them for a form to get your own tax ID number
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Danlover111 on January 14, 2019, 03:42:02 PM

Reach out to buying group and ask them for a form to get your own tax ID number
thanks
i sent it directly to them using apartment numbers...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 14, 2019, 04:16:57 PM
You shipped to DE? Will be cancelled 99.99% of the time.

Ship to your house with their tax exempt number.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Danlover111 on January 14, 2019, 04:44:23 PM
You shipped to DE? Will be cancelled 99.99% of the time.

Ship to your house with their tax exempt number.
yes, got it
thanks
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ajpl on January 14, 2019, 05:01:11 PM
You shipped to DE? Will be cancelled 99.99% of the time.

Ship to your house with their tax exempt number.

How do you then deliver it to them? Do they pay your shipping costs to get the package from your house to their warehouse?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 14, 2019, 10:03:46 PM
I would advise exercising extreme caution when dealing with MYS as their behavior indicates they are under extreme financial pressure. For example, I have items that were delivered weeks ago but have yet to be checked in despite raising a ticket. Furthermore, I have checks requested for 2 weeks that have yet to emailed. Again, raising a ticket didnít help. Finally, for pickups, I was told they cannot issue a check on the spot; I would to have to request the check online.

It seems they are doing their utmost to delay any payout.  Not a good sign my friends.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Jack - NJ on January 14, 2019, 10:18:01 PM
I would advise exercising extreme caution when dealing with MYS as their behavior indicates they are under extreme financial pressure. For example, I have items that were delivered weeks ago but have yet to be checked in despite raising a ticket. Furthermore, I have checks requested for 2 weeks that have yet to emailed. Again, raising a ticket didnít help. Finally, for pickups, I was told they cannot issue a check on the spot; I would to have to request the check online.

It seems they are doing their utmost to delay any payout.  Not a good sign my friends.

Would make sense, since they still have millions of dollars worth of merchandise from Black Friday in stock. Gotta give them just a little bit of a break. But not too much, of course. If a check wonít cash thatís when there will be major issues.

In the meantime, they sent out more offers the other day, so guessing they have the cash to pay for new stuff.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mplace on January 14, 2019, 10:42:03 PM
I guess you never used td or chase bank.
both work all the time
ATM and teller no issues at all
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 14, 2019, 10:54:00 PM
I would advise exercising extreme caution when dealing with MYS as their behavior indicates they are under extreme financial pressure. For example, I have items that were delivered weeks ago but have yet to be checked in despite raising a ticket. Furthermore, I have checks requested for 2 weeks that have yet to emailed. Again, raising a ticket didnít help. Finally, for pickups, I was told they cannot issue a check on the spot; I would to have to request the check online.

It seems they are doing their utmost to delay any payout.  Not a good sign my friends.
@Markmann20 has sort of admitted as much himself on this thread. However, this is the first I heard of a check not being issued at a pickup/dropoff. What was the official reason they gave? I have been getting my checks issued at drop offs very recently, when did this occur?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 14, 2019, 10:55:28 PM
@Markmann20 has sort of admitted as much himself on this thread. However, this is the first I heard of a check not being issued at a pickup/dropoff. What was the official reason they gave? I have been getting my checks issued at drop offs very recently, when did this occur?


Took place today. I didnít ask for a reason as I assumed it was cash flow issues.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 14, 2019, 10:56:03 PM

Took place today. I didnít ask for a reason as I assumed it was cash flow issues.
Whatever the true reason, you always need to hear their version/excuse. Perhaps they had a valid reason?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on January 14, 2019, 10:56:50 PM
@Markmann20 has sort of admitted as much himself on this thread. However, this is the first I heard of a check not being issued at a pickup/dropoff. What was the official reason they gave? I have been getting my checks issued at drop offs very recently, when did this occur?

The printer broke during pickups this evening and the driver could not get it to work so we told people very simple that he can't issue checks but we can send e check first thing tomorrow just reach out to support saying you weren't able to get check this evening and that you'd like e check sent tomorrow the end
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 14, 2019, 10:59:15 PM
The printer broke during pickups this evening and the driver could not get it to work so we told people very simple that he can't issue checks but we can send e check first thing tomorrow just reach out to support saying you weren't able to get check this evening and that you'd like e check sent tomorrow the end

If itís that simple why are their checks outstanding for weeks?
Title: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 14, 2019, 10:59:36 PM
Duplicate
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on January 14, 2019, 11:08:57 PM
If itís that simple why are their checks outstanding for weeks?

I am sorry you are still waiting on checks.  To our knowledge, there is no checks outstanding for weeks. This is completely not true
If you didnít get your check, we are happy to help you. Contact support or Pm and I am happy to help those that would like help with this matter
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Onefishtwofishredfishblue on January 15, 2019, 12:02:49 AM
I had something delivered in DE on December 28 and signed by someone named "mark". If anyone has something delivered on that same day and had "mark" sign it please PM me.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on January 15, 2019, 08:19:11 AM
I had something delivered in DE on December 28 and signed by someone named "mark". If anyone has something delivered on that same day and had "mark" sign it please PM me.

I had something delivered that day that they say they didnít receive
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on January 15, 2019, 08:23:28 AM
A few stories that happen/happened to me with MYS

1. I returned 3 PS before they shipped, took screenshots and sent them but still havenít received the 5$ per item after 3 weeks. They said they were ďlooking into itĒ and no news since than

2. Still waiting for a payment requested 13 days ago

3. I had a missing item that after looking through all my order I realized that they made a mistake when they put in the tracking number and flipped two digits (I thought they weee doing it with a barcode? How can this happen?)

4. My main issue:.. thereís an order that says it was delivered December 28 and still wasnít checked in. After opening a ticket they claimed that it wasnít received yet

Having said that, Iíve been with them for the past couple months and did tons of orders and this is the first time there are issues (besides some delayed payments)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 15, 2019, 12:17:08 PM

Took place today. I didnít ask for a reason as I assumed it was cash flow issues.
So make serious accusations without asking for a reason?? SMH
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 15, 2019, 12:23:45 PM
So make serious accusations without asking for a reason?? SMH


Itís a serious accusation based on multiple facts and the ownerís own statement. But donít let my view deter you from shipping to DE. 
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitzshpitz on January 15, 2019, 12:39:03 PM
Can someone please put a website or contact info for the buying groups mentioned in the wiki?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 15, 2019, 01:58:13 PM
I don't think this info should be public.
Why not?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chayie on January 15, 2019, 02:08:44 PM
I fail to understand how people think that they are allowed halachically to post negative things about businesses on a public forum (assuming they haven't asked their LOR if this is permissible).

We are talking about potentially ruining people's parnassah!

If you have a problem with a company, take it up with them directly, and if they don't respond, then take them to a din torah, but PLEASE stop this Loshon Horah and possible Motzi Shaim Ra in public!

FYI - I am not in any way associated with any of the groups.

IMHO.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on January 15, 2019, 02:17:25 PM
I fail to understand how people think that they are allowed halachically to post negative things about businesses on a public forum (assuming they haven't asked their LOR if this is permissible).

We are talking about potentially ruining people's parnassah!

If you have a problem with a company, take it up directly with them directly, and if they don't respond, then take them to a din torah, but PLEASE stop this Loshon Horah and possible Motzi Shaim Ra in public!

FYI - I am not in any way associated with any of the groups.

IMHO.
How about helping a fellow jew from getting scammed? Are we not allowed to do that? Are we supposed to keep quiet while others fall in the trap and lose $. Is that ok? I am not saying that this is happening but to say that we cant post our experiences with buying groups is ridiculous.

We are not bashing people for no purpose. There is a purpose. People are losing $ from some of these groups
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 15, 2019, 02:18:45 PM
I fail to understand how people think that they are allowed halachically to post negative things about businesses on a public forum (assuming they haven't asked their LOR if this is permissible).

We are talking about potentially ruining people's parnassah!

If you have a problem with a company, take it up directly with them directly, and if they don't respond, then take them to a din torah, but PLEASE stop this Loshon Horah and possible Motzi Shaim Ra in public!

FYI - I am not in any way associated with any of the groups.

IMHO.
In general I agree with you, and strongly disagree with the way so many people feel free to post loshon hora and motzi shem ra about so many restaurants/companies/establishments seemingly at will, on a public forum no less. I personally feel that most of the time I see it here it's NOT letoeles, and just wanton bashing with no objective, which is NOT OK. I know, it's assur for me to read it too, blah blah.

With that said, there is a concept of toeles, and if you have legitimate concerns about a company potentially not being able to pay their buyers, then I definitely hear the tzad that it should be mutar (and encouraged) to inform those buyers, and warn others away.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 15, 2019, 02:21:19 PM
How about helping a fellow jew from getting scammed? Are we not allowed to do that? Are we supposed to keep quiet while others fall in the trap and lose $. Is that ok? I am not saying that this is happening but to say that we cant post our experiences with buying groups is ridiculous.

We are not bashing people for no purpose. There is a purpose. People are losing $ from some of these groups
You definitely have a point but it would behoove people to perhaps be more careful about what they say, and how they say it
I am not saying that this is happening but to say that we cant post our experiences with buying groups is ridiculous.

Certainly not ridiculous, you can't say over everything that's happened between yourself and a group, only perhaps that which may have an impact on others. Otherwise, it's straight up loshon hora.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chayie on January 15, 2019, 02:25:47 PM
How about helping a fellow jew from getting scammed? Are we not allowed to do that? Are we supposed to keep quiet while others fall in the trap and lose $. Is that ok? I am not saying that this is happening but to say that we cant post our experiences with buying groups is ridiculous.

We are not bashing people for no purpose. There is a purpose. People are losing $ from some of these groups

Well, ask your LOR what to do. There are halochos about toeles as well!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 15, 2019, 02:28:34 PM
Why not?
There was discussion about this earlier. It probably isn't good for anyone involved for it to be public. CC companies read this forum.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on January 15, 2019, 02:38:54 PM
I fail to understand how people think that they are allowed halachically to post negative things about businesses on a public forum (assuming they haven't asked their LOR if this is permissible).

We are talking about potentially ruining people's parnassah!

If you have a problem with a company, take it up with them directly, and if they don't respond, then take them to a din torah, but PLEASE stop this Loshon Horah and possible Motzi Shaim Ra in public!
Well, ask your LOR what to do. There are halochos about toeles as well!
This is not YWN coffee room
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on January 15, 2019, 02:52:32 PM
Well, ask your LOR what to do. There are halochos about toeles as well!
when will the buying groups ask their LOR if it is permissible to tell someone to buy something, promise to pay him for it, refuse the package, cause the buyer a loss of the return shipping, and not pay the buyer for it.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 15, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
There was discussion about this earlier. It probably isn't good for anyone involved for it to be public. CC companies read this forum.
Ok removed it. remove your quote of it as well.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 15, 2019, 03:05:19 PM
Ok removed it. remove your quote of it as well.
Done
when will the buying groups ask their LOR if it is permissible to tell someone to buy something, promise to pay him for it, refuse the package, cause the buyer a loss of the return shipping, and not pay the buyer for it.
You're absolutely right, and they have received much bashing in return for that. Still, two wrongs don't necessarily make a right. I'm actually with you that this probably qualifies as letoeles.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: aygart on January 15, 2019, 03:08:08 PM
Can someone please put a website or contact info for the buying groups mentioned in the wiki?
ALso directed at those who feel links should not "be made public" @S209
(https://i.gyazo.com/25daad16387adeadc3a592f2b6aa6a02.png)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 15, 2019, 03:10:06 PM
ALso directed at those who feel links should not "be made public" @S209
(https://i.gyazo.com/25daad16387adeadc3a592f2b6aa6a02.png)
Lol :)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on January 15, 2019, 03:16:12 PM
ALso directed at those who feel links should not "be made public" @S209
(https://i.gyazo.com/25daad16387adeadc3a592f2b6aa6a02.png)
Has to do with your google history etc.

Here's a clean incognito search:
(https://i.imgur.com/5NtrswX.png)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on January 15, 2019, 03:59:09 PM
Are Bestbuy orders flowing  through these days?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: mochada on January 15, 2019, 04:01:08 PM
A few stories that happen/happened to me with MYS

1. I returned 3 PS before they shipped, took screenshots and sent them but still havenít received the 5$ per item after 3 weeks. They said they were ďlooking into itĒ and no news since than

2. Still waiting for a payment requested 13 days ago

3. I had a missing item that after looking through all my order I realized that they made a mistake when they put in the tracking number and flipped two digits (I thought they weee doing it with a barcode? How can this happen?)

4. My main issue:.. thereís an order that says it was delivered December 28 and still wasnít checked in. After opening a ticket they claimed that it wasnít received yet

Having said that, Iíve been with them for the past couple months and did tons of orders and this is the first time there are issues (besides some delayed payments)

Wait, MYS was paying for the return fee on the PS4s? @Markmann20
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chevron on January 15, 2019, 04:22:32 PM
Cancelled / returned items are a halachik issue, but not my department. Certainly the buyer should be compensated.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on January 15, 2019, 07:14:39 PM
A few stories that happen/happened to me with MYS

1. I returned 3 PS before they shipped, took screenshots and sent them but still havenít received the 5$ per item after 3 weeks. They said they were ďlooking into itĒ and no news since than

2. Still waiting for a payment requested 13 days ago

3. I had a missing item that after looking through all my order I realized that they made a mistake when they put in the tracking number and flipped two digits (I thought they weee doing it with a barcode? How can this happen?)

4. My main issue:.. thereís an order that says it was delivered December 28 and still wasnít checked in. After opening a ticket they claimed that it wasnít received yet

Having said that, Iíve been with them for the past couple months and did tons of orders and this is the first time there are issues (besides some delayed payments)

Payment was sent today. Still waiting on #2 & 3
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on January 15, 2019, 07:22:59 PM
im new to buying groups i tried placing an order from best buy my order got cancelled right away , what did i do wrong

thanks 

 "Unfortunately, we were unable to verify your information, so we canceled item(s) from your order.

For details regarding refunds and credits, see the What You Need to Know section below.

Please accept our apology for this inconvenience. We value you as a customer and hope to see you again soon."
Got the same thing (shipped to my home address).

Can I still use the same account (if I get a personalized tax Id)?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitzshpitz on January 15, 2019, 08:33:57 PM
ALso directed at those who feel links should not "be made public" @S209
(https://i.gyazo.com/25daad16387adeadc3a592f2b6aa6a02.png)

I see you googled them. Only 2 of the buying groups mentioned have websites that come up on google and is not easy to get contact info. Also since when are googleable things not put on the wiki? Doesnít it make sense to have a page that you can  access all the buying groups websites from?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on January 17, 2019, 01:31:19 PM
I have to admit that although MYS customer service takes time and is slow. They stood by their word and fixed the issues that I had. Much better experience that dealing with USA (which their cs support is mainly a Google form).
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on January 17, 2019, 01:49:49 PM
Anyone else hearing that payments are delayed from MYS? I was told that they can scan it but payments will not be made yet.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: oldguy on January 17, 2019, 01:51:20 PM
Anyone else hearing that payments are delayed from MYS? I was told that they can scan it but payments will not be made yet.
I just got a payment by drop off yesterday
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 17, 2019, 01:52:24 PM
I just got a payment by drop off yesterday
+1
Anyone else hearing that payments are delayed from MYS? I was told that they can scan it but payments will not be made yet.
Where did you hear this?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 17, 2019, 01:52:57 PM
Are you referring to this?

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=97891.msg2045923#msg2045923
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on January 17, 2019, 01:53:25 PM
+1Where did you hear this?

Regarding Monsey
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on January 17, 2019, 02:02:52 PM
Regarding Monsey

Just found out the issue was that they ran out of checks
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on January 17, 2019, 02:03:54 PM
MYS customer service takes time and is slow.
+1
But they have been good for every penny since 2011.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 17, 2019, 02:28:14 PM
Just found out the issue was that they ran out of checks


Or perhaps the printer was broken.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on January 17, 2019, 02:30:58 PM

Or perhaps the printer was broken.

They should really be more transparent when there are issues like this so we don't all get nervous lol
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on January 17, 2019, 02:31:49 PM
They should really be more transparent when there are issues like this so we don't all get nervous lol
Or at least offer instant echecks.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 17, 2019, 02:34:46 PM
Or at least offer instant echecks.

That would defeat the whole purpose ;)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehudaa on January 17, 2019, 03:19:06 PM
Does Rakuten cancel orders shipped to DE?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on January 17, 2019, 03:48:17 PM
Anyone else hearing that payments are delayed from MYS? I was told that they can scan it but payments will not be made yet.
No issues picking up a $7k check at the office.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 17, 2019, 03:49:41 PM
No issues picking up a $7k check at the office.
it depends on the neighborhood
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 17, 2019, 03:51:24 PM
Is it a problem to tell Amazon 2 months after it says Product was Delivered and Signed that I never Recieved the Product?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: coolmuke on January 17, 2019, 04:19:52 PM
Is there a drop off location in VA/MD?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on January 17, 2019, 05:25:44 PM
Is it a problem to tell Amazon 2 months after it says Product was Delivered and Signed that I never Recieved the Product?
It doesn't hurt to call. Don't chat.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: halperng on January 17, 2019, 08:26:59 PM
Is it a problem to tell Amazon 2 months after it says Product was Delivered and Signed that I never Recieved the Product?

always chat, never call
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: medster on January 17, 2019, 11:29:21 PM
Is it a problem to tell Amazon 2 months after it says Product was Delivered and Signed that I never Recieved the Product?
i did this a month later and they told me they are not going to refund (nothing to do with it being a month later but because they are not responsible for it after delivery) is there anything to do? Itís like 1.1k worth of stuff
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 18, 2019, 12:16:38 AM
Hunt down the buying group until they take responsibility.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on January 18, 2019, 12:55:29 AM
Is anyone receiving commission for purchasing Amazon echos? If so please reply with quantity of echos and commission amount. Thanks
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: myi on January 18, 2019, 02:23:13 AM
Just found out the issue was that they ran out of checks
Lol, same issue in lakewood. The funny part is they have much less items being received and now they're running out of checks. But a day later got it all.
 Bh bli"ah all is good.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 18, 2019, 02:57:19 AM
Is anyone receiving commission for purchasing Amazon echos? If so please reply with quantity of echos and commission amount. Thanks
If You Use TopCashBack their giving 8% PM for the link
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehudaa on January 18, 2019, 03:07:43 AM
It doesn't hurt to call. Don't chat.
always chat, never call
What are the opinions on this?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 18, 2019, 12:21:30 PM
I'm a chat guy with amazon.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ben89 on January 18, 2019, 12:38:32 PM
If You Use TopCashBack their giving 8% PM for the link
what does that have to do with what he asked?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 18, 2019, 12:42:40 PM
what does that have to do with what he asked?
Nothing to do with commission but a great way to make $4 per order (used to be 10% holiday season) and they are extremely reliable with paying.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 18, 2019, 02:07:09 PM
Nothing to do with commission but a great way to make $4 per order (used to be 10% holiday season) and they are extremely reliable with paying.
+.5. Out of maybe $200 cashback I was expecting from them over the course of a month worth of orders, I only got around $125. It's possible that used error accounts for some portion of it, but like any of these sites, they're pretty finicky, and it's hard to know when it'll post and when it won't. Just my personal experience.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 18, 2019, 02:30:45 PM
Has anyone been successful with getting paid from MYS when they signed for the package but claim they never got it? They are giving the usual excuse - we get a large pallet of deliveries.....
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on January 18, 2019, 02:50:39 PM
Has anyone been successful with getting paid from MYS when they signed for the package but claim they never got it? They are giving the usual excuse - we get a large pallet of deliveries.....
Yes. That's with everything buying group...


Give them some time. Usually it resolves within a few weeks...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on January 18, 2019, 03:27:32 PM
Is it a problem to tell Amazon 2 months after it says Product was Delivered and Signed that I never Recieved the Product?
i did this a month later and they told me they are not going to refund (nothing to do with it being a month later but because they are not responsible for it after delivery) is there anything to do? Itís like 1.1k worth of stuff
Gonna say this again, hopefully @Markmann20 and other groups change their processes. Unless they plan on paying out peopleís $1000+ boxes that nobody else (vendor / carrier) wants to take responsibility for weeks later.

This is a problem. I don't care if you don't open the packages and have it ready for payment right away, I get the warehouse is backed up right now. But at least let me know you got my package, since if you didn't and the carrier says it was delivered, I can't come back a month later and say I never got it.
When carriers drop off pallets of packages, first step is manually scan every single package into your system. Just the tracking that it was delivered. (Scan in between loading dock area and Receiveing area).

Let the buyer know their packages were received. Within 24-48 hours of delivery, if the package shows delivered and you say it wasnít, THE BUYER NEEDS TO BE MADE AWARE OF THAT.
Look into building custom conveyor belt scanning systems like the carriers use (1 time cost vs. manual labor).
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 18, 2019, 03:30:07 PM
Yes. That's with everything buying group...


Give them some time. Usually it resolves within a few weeks...

And if not, who bears the risk of loss?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 18, 2019, 03:43:24 PM
Gonna say this again, hopefully @Markmann20 and other groups change their processes. Unless they plan on paying out peopleís $1000+ boxes that nobody else (vendor / carrier) wants to take responsibility for weeks later.
When carriers drop off pallets of packages, first step is manually scan every single package into your system. Just the tracking that it was delivered. (Scan in between loading dock area and Receiveing area).

Let the buyer know their packages were received. Within 24-48 hours of delivery, if the package shows delivered and you say it wasnít, THE BUYER NEEDS TO BE MADE AWARE OF THAT.
Look into building custom conveyor belt scanning systems like the carriers use (1 time cost vs. manual labor).
+1. I don't know if your specific solution is necessary or the only way, but it's unacceptable to have a setup where a buyer sees the tracking telling him the package is delivered, but he has to wait a month for the buying group to tell him they didn't actually receive it. It makes it extremely difficult to resolve any problems down the line.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: matsmyth on January 19, 2019, 04:57:35 PM
About to make my first BB order in CA. From experience how many of each item is it safe to order without sending up red flags?


*Update: Tried ordering 3 of each watch. Order cancelled immediately.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Muhammad on January 19, 2019, 05:04:02 PM
I'm a chat guy with amazon.
and...?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on January 19, 2019, 11:10:13 PM
About to make my first BB order in CA. From experience how many of each item is it safe to order without sending up red flags?


*Update: Tried ordering 3 of each watch. Order cancelled immediately.
Start slow. That's rule #1. Once you establish your account, order more.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on January 20, 2019, 12:08:15 AM
and...?
And---he prefers chat over calling.What is your question?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on January 20, 2019, 04:39:12 PM
https://pointsmilesandmartinis.boardingarea.com/2019/01/manufacture-spend-buying-club/
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Fish Tank on January 20, 2019, 09:33:07 PM
https://pointsmilesandmartinis.boardingarea.com/2019/01/manufacture-spend-buying-club/
I wonder what such an ad cost.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on January 20, 2019, 09:34:32 PM
I wonder what such an ad cost.
We were unaware of the article till someone sent it over
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 20, 2019, 09:45:00 PM
I wonder what such an ad cost.

Worth every penny.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 20, 2019, 10:30:26 PM
We were unaware of the article till someone sent it over
So he's doing it for the referral commission?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bb1836 on January 21, 2019, 07:57:22 AM
"word that rhymes with rebates" has 2% CB at BB today
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 21, 2019, 08:06:15 AM
"word that rhymes with rebates" has 2% CB at BB today
Lol.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Muhammad on January 21, 2019, 08:32:20 AM
"word that rhymes with rebates" has 2% CB at BB today
i thought we are not allowed to discuss these things...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Muhammad on January 21, 2019, 08:47:48 AM
last time this (https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/amazon/new-waterproof-8gb-kindle-paperwhite-special-offers-99-99-32gb-119-99-shipped-amazon/) was $10 less, you think they'll be giving commissions?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Fish Tank on January 21, 2019, 10:01:08 AM
We were unaware of the article till someone sent it over
Interesting. I guess they are doing it for the referral bonus.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 21, 2019, 10:07:54 AM
How would they get a referral bonus? There's no referral ID or unique referral link.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yelped on January 21, 2019, 10:30:16 AM
They're doing it for the clicks. And because blogs like killing things.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sruly on January 21, 2019, 10:40:15 AM
last time this (https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/amazon/new-waterproof-8gb-kindle-paperwhite-special-offers-99-99-32gb-119-99-shipped-amazon/) was $10 less, you think they'll be giving commissions?
Just be happy that they don't make you return bc of the $10 price drop.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on January 21, 2019, 10:42:50 AM
last time this (https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/amazon/new-waterproof-8gb-kindle-paperwhite-special-offers-99-99-32gb-119-99-shipped-amazon/) was $10 less, you think they'll be giving commissions?
I believe that was a different model..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on January 21, 2019, 01:46:28 PM
"word that rhymes with rebates" has 2% CB at BB today

and another has 3%...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bb1836 on January 21, 2019, 06:59:43 PM
and another has 3%...
what rhymes with "another"  ;)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 21, 2019, 07:02:26 PM
Anyone get pickups from MYS today in Brooklyn?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on January 21, 2019, 07:03:34 PM
Anyone get pickups from MYS today in Brooklyn?

Flatbush is on Mondayís and the Driver is currently going around there
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 21, 2019, 07:49:28 PM
Flatbush is on Mondayís and the Driver is currently going around there

What time does he end?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on January 21, 2019, 07:50:22 PM
What time does he end?
your more then welcome to message support or my cell this is not for the forums
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Muhammad on January 22, 2019, 07:25:11 AM
I believe that was a different model..
-1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Muhammad on January 22, 2019, 07:39:43 AM
does anyone know the time line of the price drops on the PS Classic?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: yesitsme on January 22, 2019, 09:40:10 AM
Am I the only one here who hates E-checks? Never works at a atm, must go in branch or mobile deposit.

 Curios I can use my blank checks which I have to print the echeck on?
 Or is there a specific paper which is compatible to be used?

 Or am I asking in the wrong place and probably better off emailing the company to see if they offer such an option?
Checks can be printed on plain white paper,
21st Century Act
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ben100 on January 22, 2019, 12:59:44 PM
Does anyone have experience buying with the BB creditcard? Can u use guest checkout? Are you more likely to have orders cancelled or account suspended than with a non BB creditcard.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Jack - NJ on January 22, 2019, 02:45:26 PM
Does anyone have experience buying with the BB creditcard? Can u use guest checkout? Are you more likely to have orders cancelled or account suspended than with a non BB creditcard.

IME, a lot more likely to go through. Just keep in mind that you donít earn points if you use a tax exemption.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tov hashem on January 22, 2019, 02:45:43 PM
i have best buy gift cards and trying to order stuff gets canceled all the time  :'( :'( :-\
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Jack - NJ on January 22, 2019, 02:47:28 PM
i have best buy gift cards and trying to order stuff gets canceled all the time  :'( :'( :-\

Gift card or credit card? GCís are just like every other order. Unless you pay fully with GC, then there is one less red flag since you arenít offering a billing address.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 22, 2019, 03:06:08 PM
Your GC might be flagged.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on January 22, 2019, 03:57:29 PM
Can someone please teach target how to pack more than one item in a box?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on January 22, 2019, 04:44:46 PM
Can someone please teach target how to pack more than one item in a box?
I remember the good old days when you where able to order unlimited items from bestbuy. Placed 50 orders of the same item and received 100 boxes.

Every box was a different shape or size.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on January 22, 2019, 04:51:23 PM
I remember the good old days when you where able to order unlimited items from bestbuy. Placed 50 orders of the same item and received 100 boxes.

Every box was a different shape or size.
This is 1 order!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: dovid1375 on January 22, 2019, 06:30:41 PM
Anyone having crazy issues pricematching bb to microcenter its always been a pain but now impossible
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitzshpitz on January 22, 2019, 06:55:28 PM
Anyone having crazy issues pricematching bb to microcenter its always been a pain but now impossible

Not worth it imo. You have to call like 10 times sometimes
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on January 22, 2019, 10:39:50 PM
i have best buy gift cards and trying to order stuff gets canceled all the time  :'( :'( :-\
I will work on getting your order through for 5% (better deal than cardcash  ;D). Only pay if order goes through. Will be shipped to your address.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yammer on January 23, 2019, 12:24:04 AM
Can someone please teach target how to pack more than one item in a box?
Walmart is the best packer...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Danlover111 on January 23, 2019, 01:46:08 AM
if i switch my billing address to DE
will chase/amex shut me down?
will i have a easier  time ordering?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on January 23, 2019, 04:17:25 AM
Walmart is the best packer...
+1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 23, 2019, 05:20:08 AM
PFS Coming out with a new deal tomo
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on January 23, 2019, 10:16:11 AM
if i switch my billing address to DE
will chase/amex shut me down?
will i have a easier  time ordering?
You should have easier time
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 23, 2019, 11:08:32 AM
You should have easier time
People do this and it works?
I will work on getting your order through for 5% (better deal than cardcash  ;D). Only pay if order goes through. Will be shipped to your address.
Just buy the GCs off him
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Jack - NJ on January 23, 2019, 11:34:48 AM
Just buy the GCs off him

He doesnít want to in case their flagged.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on January 23, 2019, 02:16:59 PM
Just buy the GCs off him

I"m not interested in dealing with the items or the GCs. If the order goes through the items will be shipped to his address. And if it doesn't then I won't have to deal with the GCs.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Danlover111 on January 23, 2019, 02:49:11 PM
You should have easier time
thanks
how about the risk?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Danlover111 on January 23, 2019, 02:52:01 PM
who does price matching other than bb?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: dovid1375 on January 23, 2019, 03:08:27 PM
Target
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Danlover111 on January 23, 2019, 03:39:04 PM
You should have easier time
changed address to DE order still canceled
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on January 23, 2019, 03:40:15 PM
changed address to DE order still canceled

Order new card number and checkout thru PayPal
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 23, 2019, 03:40:40 PM
Target
who does price matching other than bb?
And Staples
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on January 23, 2019, 03:41:31 PM
And Staples
-110 ;)
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Danlover111 on January 23, 2019, 03:55:46 PM
-110 ;)
correct just called
they do not match
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: medster on January 23, 2019, 04:13:47 PM
Iím  going to post my experience so people can be aware of the risks

I ordered 1.1k of stuff for USA from Amazon and they claim it wasnít delivered tracking shows delivered about a month and half ago they blamed it on Amazon, Amazon refused to refund Iím still working on it with them (for about 2 weeks so far)  but Iím out 1.1k as of now
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Pearl75 on January 23, 2019, 06:36:51 PM
Felt compelled to also post here with my experiences before i found this forum.
I joined the usa buying group and first started ordering a few things a week back in the summer. THen i didnt have time to keep up with it before I opened a new credit card in november around black friday and thought this would be an easy and quick way to get to limit and get some easy points. So I purchased over $15000 in items in November which I completely regret. 1st of all, its so time consuming for record keeping. 2ndly, they had countless errors on many of my orders. Besides for giving me the wrong commission on many items, they started claiming this past few weeks that they didnt receive many packages.
Every one of the packages they claim to not have received shows as delivered from Amazon. They did the same for 2 of my macys and amazon orders.

Their claim is that they never signed for it and they never got it.
Now I'm down a few thousand dollars when my net gain from all this would've been like $150 in points, $100 in commission and my cc bonus which i wouldve met the limit either way.

This situation is 2 months old and still no resolution. I'm down all that money. Amazon and macys wont refund me because of countless returns and packages not received claims at their delaware location.


MY THOUGHTS ----i believe thats the way these buying groups make their money. Their profit is probably so minimal on their sales, probably like 5-10% at most so they need to say they didnt receive packages and have their members go through the headache.
If they do 500 packages a month of packages not received, that can mean around $100k a month of free money making their business actually worthwhile. --- END OF MY THOUGHTS

What can I do to get my money from them?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on January 23, 2019, 07:02:04 PM
+1. I don't know if your specific solution is necessary or the only way, but it's unacceptable to have a setup where a buyer sees the tracking telling him the package is delivered, but he has to wait a month for the buying group to tell him they didn't actually receive it. It makes it extremely difficult to resolve any problems down the line.
Have any better ideas?  :)

For small scale deliveries, the UPS driver scans every package as he hands them to you. Then he has you sign for amount of pieces on his device. If the device says 50 pieces and you have 50 packages, you figure youíre good.

When signing for pallets instead of pieces, if a package fell off the pallet somewhere, and you notify the seller / carrier within a day or 2 that it says delivered but wasnít, theyíll open a claim and it can go to insurance to deal with (if it doesnít get found within claim window).

If you come back a month+ later that tracking shows delivered but you donít have it, any normal person would laugh you out of the room.

Now seeing as UPS and the warehouse have some sort of arrangement to deliver / sign for pallets instead of pieces, the buyer (and buying group) canít rely on the fact that tracking shows delivered until someone at the warehouse says they have it.

So unless they want to be the insurance thatís paying out for missing packages a month later, they need to either switch to piece count signatures with UPS (and then accept responsibility if they signed for wrong piece count), or keep it as pallet count, but then right away do their own piece count / scan tracking internally (either using extra minimum wage employees, or investing in an automated belt (still need people to on/off load, but much less then fully manual).
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on January 23, 2019, 08:00:17 PM
Iím  going to post my experience so people can be aware of the risks

I ordered 1.1k of stuff for USA from Amazon and they claim it wasnít delivered tracking shows delivered about a month and half ago they blamed it on Amazon, Amazon refused to refund Iím still working on it with them (for about 2 weeks so far)  but Iím out 1.1k as of now
Is this all headache worth the risks? To make a few $ and accumulate miles and points? There are other safer ways for MS.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: medster on January 23, 2019, 08:36:30 PM
Is this all headache worth the risks? To make a few $ and accumulate miles and points? There are other safer ways for MS.
i didnt do it for the miles really bought gcs @5% off so made that on everything but I would tell ppl now that itís not worth the risk
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 23, 2019, 08:49:08 PM
Is this all headache worth the risks? To make a few $ and accumulate miles and points? There are other safer ways for MS.

Please share via PM. 
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Jack - NJ on January 23, 2019, 09:19:28 PM
Yes, there are safer ways to MS, but this is generally worth it even with losses.

1. Losses are infrequent. I have spent close to 100k for groups and have never had an issue.
2. The revenue is great. There are 4 sources of income: commission, GC, portals, and cc bonuses.

Overall, itís a lucrative oppuntunity to a make a few bucks on the side. I can say for myself, I made over 4K during the month of holiday season.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: normathej on January 23, 2019, 10:31:41 PM
Please share via PM.

+1
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sam2015 on January 23, 2019, 11:01:56 PM
Is this all headache worth the risks? To make a few $ and accumulate miles and points? There are other safer ways for MS.
i didnt do it for the miles really bought gcs @5% off so made that on everything but I would tell ppl now that itís not worth the risk

Stop shipping to DE.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 23, 2019, 11:19:43 PM
Please share via PM.
+1  :)
Iím  going to post my experience so people can be aware of the risks

I ordered 1.1k of stuff for USA from Amazon and they claim it wasnít delivered tracking shows delivered about a month and half ago they blamed it on Amazon, Amazon refused to refund Iím still working on it with them (for about 2 weeks so far)  but Iím out 1.1k as of now
Please add this to the wiki
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 24, 2019, 02:27:42 AM
Seems like the buying groups are trying a slightly different approach with the coin deal now. Only sending details once signed up etc. I guess trying to stop the bidding war that happened last time. Does anyone actually believe that there are truly "limited spots"??
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 24, 2019, 02:49:38 AM
Seems like the buying groups are trying a slightly different approach with the coin deal now. Only sending details once signed up etc. I guess trying to stop the bidding war that happened last time. Does anyone actually believe that there are truly "limited spots"??
Lol
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bznt on January 24, 2019, 07:36:25 AM
Seems like the buying groups are trying a slightly different approach with the coin deal now. Only sending details once signed up etc. I guess trying to stop the bidding war that happened last time. Does anyone actually believe that there are truly "limited spots"??
I checked 2 groups and they are only buying the silver coins now. Nobody wants the gold.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Danlover111 on January 24, 2019, 07:58:19 AM
please post link to the coin deals
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: puddles on January 24, 2019, 09:25:45 AM
Seems like the buying groups are trying a slightly different approach with the coin deal now. Only sending details once signed up etc. I guess trying to stop the bidding war that happened last time. Does anyone actually believe that there are truly "limited spots"??
I wanted to buy for PFS and when I went to the site they said they arent taking any more commitments. So I would say that yes, there was a limit.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mordyk on January 24, 2019, 10:34:58 AM
Felt compelled to also post here with my experiences before i found this forum.
I joined the usa buying group and first started ordering a few things a week back in the summer. THen i didnt have time to keep up with it before I opened a new credit card in november around black friday and thought this would be an easy and quick way to get to limit and get some easy points. So I purchased over $15000 in items in November which I completely regret. 1st of all, its so time consuming for record keeping. 2ndly, they had countless errors on many of my orders. Besides for giving me the wrong commission on many items, they started claiming this past few weeks that they didnt receive many packages.
Every one of the packages they claim to not have received shows as delivered from Amazon. They did the same for 2 of my macys and amazon orders.

Their claim is that they never signed for it and they never got it.
Now I'm down a few thousand dollars when my net gain from all this would've been like $150 in points, $100 in commission and my cc bonus which i wouldve met the limit either way.

This situation is 2 months old and still no resolution. I'm down all that money. Amazon and macys wont refund me because of countless returns and packages not received claims at their delaware location.


MY THOUGHTS ----i believe thats the way these buying groups make their money. Their profit is probably so minimal on their sales, probably like 5-10% at most so they need to say they didnt receive packages and have their members go through the headache.
If they do 500 packages a month of packages not received, that can mean around $100k a month of free money making their business actually worthwhile. --- END OF MY THOUGHTS

What can I do to get my money from them?
i had from from another group that they claim never delivered. somehow to my house i never have this issue. but totally agree with your point that this is part of the business model of many groups (not all). cant be otherwise.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 24, 2019, 10:41:17 AM
I Disagree  I use MYS and Jazzer im on top of the orders 1 MYS $40 order is missing and they are trying to help me with it excellant communication
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 24, 2019, 10:43:31 AM
Would you say the same if after all the excellent communication they don't find it and you're out the money?

What if the package was worth $1k instead of $40?

I'm a loyal MYS buyer BTW, but have stopped shipping to DE after the recent reports and mark's admission on cash flow.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 24, 2019, 10:45:51 AM
There is for sure a risk involved
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 24, 2019, 10:46:46 AM
but amazon has to be shiped DE
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 24, 2019, 10:48:27 AM
Can have a tax exempt on Amazon as well.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitzshpitz on January 24, 2019, 10:58:21 AM
Which buying group is paying the highest commission for coin deal?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 24, 2019, 10:59:20 AM
Would you say the same if after all the excellent communication they don't find it and you're out the money?

What if the package was worth $1k instead of $40?

I'm a loyal MYS buyer BTW, but have stopped shipping to DE after the recent reports and mark's admission on cash flow.

+1.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on January 24, 2019, 11:00:58 AM
Would you say the same if after all the excellent communication they don't find it and you're out the money?

What if the package was worth $1k instead of $40?

I'm a loyal MYS buyer BTW, but have stopped shipping to DE after the recent reports and mark's admission on cash flow.
I dont believe I said anything about cash flow problems
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 24, 2019, 11:02:57 AM
Like I've said previously if you need your check faster contact myself or support we will have pushed out this time of year all groups have delays were not all made out of unlimited money we apologize for delays but if you reach out like others we will push out
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on January 24, 2019, 11:06:49 AM

if there was cash flow problems would we be able to push checks out for people desperate or would we be able to print checks out on the spot at pickups or drop offs Not one check we wrote bounced
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on January 24, 2019, 11:35:03 AM


if there was cash flow problems would we be able to push checks out for people desperate or would we be able to print checks out on the spot at pickups or drop offs Not one check we wrote bounced

Of course. Cash flow issues where you can't handle paying out for all items that you receive on time.

If you can't give any checks by drop off, or push checks upon request then you got bigger issues then cash flow
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gingyguy on January 24, 2019, 11:36:40 AM
if there was cash flow problems would we be able to push checks out for people desperate or would we be able to print checks out on the spot at pickups or drop offs Not one check we wrote bounced
if the checks are not being written they ain't gonna bounce..
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on January 24, 2019, 11:38:05 AM


Seems like the buying groups are trying a slightly different approach with the coin deal now. Only sending details once signed up etc. I guess trying to stop the bidding war that happened last time. Does anyone actually believe that there are truly "limited spots"??

If the coin is a big profit maker they'll find a way to get past the limits.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on January 24, 2019, 12:09:24 PM

If the coin is a big profit maker they'll find a way to get past the limits.
Defintely. Calling bluff on the whole "must sign up to buy".
Obviously it is a great business decision on the part of the buying groups, and perhaps it may make sense for them not to accept those who didn't sign up as it will show that they are serious about signing up and committing beforehand, which will benefit them in the long term- even though they will be giving up potential profits now.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Markmann20 on January 24, 2019, 12:11:43 PM
Defintely. Calling bluff on the whole "must sign up to buy".
Obviously it is a great business decision on the part of the buying groups, and perhaps it may make sense for them not to accept those who didn't sign up as it will show that they are serious about signing up and committing beforehand, which will benefit them in the long term- even though they will be giving up potential profits now.
I believe they are doing it cause they only want a certain amount as there is a lot of coins being released and that is one of reasons im not doing it to risky
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Jack - NJ on January 24, 2019, 12:24:42 PM
I believe they are doing it cause they only want a certain amount as there is a lot of coins being released and that is one of reasons im not doing it to risky

Why is it so risky? Last time they were selling on eBay for $700 markups!
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on January 24, 2019, 03:33:19 PM
Which buying group is paying the highest commission for coin deal?

Anything more then 35$ for the 5 silver coins?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitzshpitz on January 24, 2019, 09:00:56 PM
Anything more then 35$ for the 5 silver coins?

I havenít seen higher
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 24, 2019, 11:07:02 PM
Defintely. Calling bluff on the whole "must sign up to buy".
Obviously it is a great business decision on the part of the buying groups, and perhaps it may make sense for them not to accept those who didn't sign up as it will show that they are serious about signing up and committing beforehand, which will benefit them in the long term- even though they will be giving up potential profits now.
Well people could just sign up "just in case" and then shop around if they want. Doesn't seem to make a diff.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 24, 2019, 11:07:35 PM
I havenít seen higher
where have you seen $35? I have seen $30 the highest.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ben100 on January 25, 2019, 12:57:47 AM
anyone have a signup referal for JAZZER.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 25, 2019, 08:56:53 AM
Yes. That's with everything buying group...


Give them some time. Usually it resolves within a few weeks...


Itís been a month with no solution.  What do I do? They wonít pay me. 
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on January 25, 2019, 08:59:32 AM

Itís been a month with no solution.  What do I do? They wonít pay me.
What date was the delivery on and who signed? What does Amazon require for the refund?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 25, 2019, 09:10:30 AM
What date was the delivery on and who signed? What does Amazon require for the refund?


Target delivery via UPS to MYS on 12/27 signed by McMahon. Target correctly claims that it was delivered and signed for.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on January 25, 2019, 09:13:36 AM
What did target tell you when you said it never arrived?

If a police report is required for the refund, then get it.

You can call the ups number to track the actual package as well.

Did you have clear communication with MYS it takes time for them to awnser and they never let anyone down. It just may take time.

Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: qwerty123 on January 25, 2019, 09:41:13 AM
i had great experience with mys. im just not sure if i would order on black friday again being that there is a good chance that items will get lost and took weeks to get scanned in. mark has to figure out a way to get everything scanned in and faster.
I was not involved in buying groups last year, did this happen last year as well?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 25, 2019, 10:38:10 AM
where have you seen $35? I have seen $30 the highest.
YRCW paid $50 but limited slots
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: halperng on January 25, 2019, 12:33:06 PM
take them to beit din. a Few thousand dollars of lost packages is just not possible. Packages do get lost, but that is a ridiculous level of loss and bottom line is theft. Maybe they aren't trying to steal, but by not even bothering to investigate thoroughly they are stealing. So many packages cannot just be missing. Either the delivery guy is stealing them, the employees in the warehouse are stealing them or nobody is stealing them and it's just very bad record keeping.... which itself is a very big halchic problem and they are responsible for, not you.

I am fairly certain beit din would rule in your favor, and if these groups would finally see a financial loss due to their negligence they would fix the problems and not allow these packages to get "lost" in the future.


Felt compelled to also post here with my experiences before i found this forum.
I joined the usa buying group and first started ordering a few things a week back in the summer. THen i didnt have time to keep up with it before I opened a new credit card in november around black friday and thought this would be an easy and quick way to get to limit and get some easy points. So I purchased over $15000 in items in November which I completely regret. 1st of all, its so time consuming for record keeping. 2ndly, they had countless errors on many of my orders. Besides for giving me the wrong commission on many items, they started claiming this past few weeks that they didnt receive many packages.
Every one of the packages they claim to not have received shows as delivered from Amazon. They did the same for 2 of my macys and amazon orders.

Their claim is that they never signed for it and they never got it.
Now I'm down a few thousand dollars when my net gain from all this would've been like $150 in points, $100 in commission and my cc bonus which i wouldve met the limit either way.

This situation is 2 months old and still no resolution. I'm down all that money. Amazon and macys wont refund me because of countless returns and packages not received claims at their delaware location.


MY THOUGHTS ----i believe thats the way these buying groups make their money. Their profit is probably so minimal on their sales, probably like 5-10% at most so they need to say they didnt receive packages and have their members go through the headache.
If they do 500 packages a month of packages not received, that can mean around $100k a month of free money making their business actually worthwhile. --- END OF MY THOUGHTS

What can I do to get my money from them?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: hello202 on January 25, 2019, 02:14:10 PM
Anyone having crazy issues pricematching bb to microcenter its always been a pain but now impossible
That usually means your order # or bb account is flagged for over pricematching. Just call and pricematch a new order either guest or different bb account and slip the one your having trouble with in afterwards. The rep will see that the first one went through and process the other one as well without looking for any flags. Obviously this would only work if the rep allows pricematching more than once per customer.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: qwerty123 on January 26, 2019, 09:42:56 PM
is there still anyone out there that are missing things from mys? i wanna know if its safe to order for them now
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bznt on January 26, 2019, 09:50:14 PM
is there still anyone out there that are missing things from mys? i wanna know if its safe to order for them now
I have a ď lost package ď which I had a picture by the delivery person as it was delivered. But itís just $20 so I am not going to make a fuss about it. Although there is no reason I should lose even a penny.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 26, 2019, 09:53:23 PM
is there still anyone out there that are missing things from mys? i wanna know if its safe to order for them now


Iím still waiting a month. I would not recommend mailing to DE. Pickup only.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: qwerty123 on January 26, 2019, 10:33:38 PM

Iím still waiting a month. I would not recommend mailing to DE. Pickup only.
what are they saying? are they being helpful?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yikes2179 on January 26, 2019, 10:34:27 PM
I have a ď lost package ď which I had a picture by the delivery person as it was delivered. But itís just $20 so I am not going to make a fuss about it. Although there is no reason I should lose even a penny.
I had a package like that as well worth about $100 - i chatted with Amazon and got my momey back even though it was a month late
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: qwerty123 on January 26, 2019, 10:35:00 PM
I would do just pickup but i order from amazon. is there a way to get tax exempt with amazon?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 26, 2019, 10:41:05 PM
what are they saying? are they being helpful?

They are not being helpful but they are responding to my messages.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on January 26, 2019, 11:04:44 PM
is there still anyone out there that are missing things from mys? i wanna know if its safe to order for them now
I had 2 items missing. After about a week of messaging, talking with ups and amazon. I assume the items were found as I got paid back for both of them.

I'm happily ordering for them.
 I would be more cautious during black Friday and prime day deals.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 27, 2019, 01:30:56 AM
I would do just pickup but i order from amazon. is there a way to get tax exempt with amazon?
Yes. Get the info and email Amazon CS, you should get it within a few days.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on January 27, 2019, 07:14:44 AM
I havenít seen higher
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=62276.msg2051024#msg2051024
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Shotguns on January 27, 2019, 02:30:58 PM
Anyone buying 42mm apple watches?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on January 28, 2019, 05:17:08 PM
If you own a Business you can sign up a Business acount and ask for tax exempt as you will be reselling.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on January 28, 2019, 05:26:36 PM
If you own a Business you can sign up a Business acount and ask for tax exempt as you will be reselling.
Bestbuy?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ah giten on January 29, 2019, 01:01:43 AM
Is it against Google terms to use the coupon code on 2 different accounts?
Meaning Can I get banned from Google if I hey caught using it twice?
I tried using on second account and they cancelled my order requesting verification, which includes my driver's license and copy of credit card. Should I be afraid?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bznt on January 29, 2019, 01:04:49 AM
Is it against Google terms to use the coupon code on 2 different accounts?
Meaning Can I get banned from Google if I hey caught using it twice?
I tried using on second account and they cancelled my order requesting verification, which includes my driver's license and copy of credit card. Should I be afraid?
Afraid of ?
I had it too. I sent in my info and the account was reopened very quickly
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: sams on January 29, 2019, 01:06:05 AM
Afraid of ?
I had it too. I sent in my info and the account was reopened very quickly
Mean google express?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: bznt on January 29, 2019, 01:07:11 AM
Mean google express?
Yes. I had it with google express.
If you have the credit card and license with the same info. Then what is there to be afraid of ?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ah giten on January 29, 2019, 01:24:03 AM
Afraid of having two accounts to use the coupon twice.
While the coupon is once per account.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 29, 2019, 02:44:39 PM
Afraid of having two accounts to use the coupon twice.
While the coupon is once per account.
I think I've done 5 accounts on several of these recent deals, dating back to black friday. No shutdown so far.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ah giten on January 29, 2019, 02:51:20 PM
I think I've done 5 accounts on several of these recent deals, dating back to black friday. No shutdown so far.
They don't know it's you on all five accounts.
If I verify my identity by uploading ID they'll know it's me trying to maximize coupons.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 29, 2019, 02:54:23 PM
They don't know it's you on all five accounts.
🤨
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ah giten on January 29, 2019, 02:55:38 PM
They don't know it's you on all five accounts.
If I verify my identity by uploading ID they'll know it's me trying to maximize coupons.
YET...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: User6669 on January 29, 2019, 03:28:35 PM
They don't know it's you on all five accounts.
If I verify my identity by uploading ID they'll know it's me trying to maximize coupons.
Don't mess with them. You need them more than they need you...
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: User6669 on January 29, 2019, 03:29:03 PM
Which buying group is paying the highest commission for coin deal?


Paying $1180 for a order of 5 $225 coins Shipped or processing
 (NOT BACKORDERED)
Located in Lakewood Or you can drop off in Flatbush

Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yehudaa on January 29, 2019, 03:47:07 PM
They don't know it's you on all five accounts.
I'd guess that's the least of what they know....
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: stooges44 on January 29, 2019, 03:48:43 PM
Don't mess with them. You need them more than they need you...

Agreed. Play nice when it comes to google and amazon, not worth the headache.

Might I remind you: https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/google/dont-mess-with-the-google/
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 29, 2019, 04:11:26 PM
Agreed. Play nice when it comes to google and amazon, not worth the headache.

Might I remind you: https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/google/dont-mess-with-the-google/
Agree  and if you do decide to do it  just do it on google accounts that you dont need
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on January 29, 2019, 04:22:42 PM
Agreed. Play nice when it comes to google and amazon, not worth the headache.

Might I remind you: https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/google/dont-mess-with-the-google/
Might I remind you: https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/google/dont-mess-with-the-google/   Scary, for some reason I missed this post when it was published.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: stooges44 on January 29, 2019, 04:26:45 PM
Might I remind you: https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/google/dont-mess-with-the-google/   Scary, for some reason I missed this post when it was published.


Lesson learned is don't mess around with companies that you can't afford to pi** off.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gozalim on January 29, 2019, 04:47:47 PM
Agree  and if you do decide to do it  just do it on google accounts that you dont need
they will link you
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: halperng on January 29, 2019, 05:43:17 PM
what's up with the coin deals and DON'T OPEN THE BOX!!! every single place is so adamant that you do not touch the box. What scam am I missing here? do they just not want you to mess up the coins or they need them sealed for another specific reason? They are going to have to open them when they got them so why they all freak out if I open the box?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 29, 2019, 05:45:40 PM
what's up with the coin deals and DON'T OPEN THE BOX!!! every single place is so adamant that you do not touch the box. What scam am I missing here? do they just not want you to mess up the coins or they need them sealed for another specific reason? They are going to have to open them when they got them so why they all freak out if I open the box?
Because they're selling to people who want to know it was from the first batch and need to verify it?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on January 29, 2019, 05:54:25 PM
Anyone get a shipping label from pointsmaker.com
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 29, 2019, 05:54:42 PM
What's the reason for not opening the MacBooks?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on January 29, 2019, 05:57:49 PM
Because they're selling to people who want to know it wasnít graded yet.
FTFY

Been discussed previously.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on January 29, 2019, 07:26:33 PM
What's the reason for not opening the MacBooks?
I guess easier to just ship them out with no need to repack.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: ah giten on January 29, 2019, 08:48:38 PM
Don't mess with them. You need them more than they need you...
Figured the same but I now see that in my payment profile they already have my name on all accounts. And same to my address.
Don't know why they decided to block my cards this time and ask for verification.
And if I leave it unverified, they'll confirm my CC accounts as stolen?
I'm basically in the middle of nowhere.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Eliyohu on January 29, 2019, 11:12:59 PM
what's up with the coin deals and DON'T OPEN THE BOX!!! every single place is so adamant that you do not touch the box. What scam am I missing here? do they just not want you to mess up the coins or they need them sealed for another specific reason? They are going to have to open them when they got them so why they all freak out if I open the box?
Verification for what's in the box and it's "proof" no one tried to grade it yet
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on January 31, 2019, 08:58:33 AM
How long does it take for an e-check to process on bofa app
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: tmendy226 on January 31, 2019, 09:04:11 AM
Just got this from MYS, item on amazon says it was delivered on December 28 (pretty much AFTER the crazy BF/CM period)

ďWe unfortunately have not be able to find it by the neighbors either, please reach out to the seller and let them know you have still not received it.Ē

Would amazon let me claim that so long after?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Essen est zich on January 31, 2019, 02:13:28 PM
Just got this from MYS, item on amazon says it was delivered on December 28 (pretty much AFTER the crazy BF/CM period)

ďWe unfortunately have not be able to find it by the neighbors either, please reach out to the seller and let them know you have still not received it.Ē

Would amazon let me claim that so long after?
Call. Don't chat.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: S209 on January 31, 2019, 02:35:33 PM
Call. Don't chat.
This was debated earlier, YMMV
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Shotguns on January 31, 2019, 02:48:06 PM
Any groups still buying the 42mm apple watch series 3?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gingyguy on January 31, 2019, 02:49:03 PM
Any groups still buying the 42mm apple watch series 3?
no one has it on their list . but it cant hurt to reach out to the them
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Mootkim on January 31, 2019, 11:21:35 PM
Anyone get a shipping label from pointsmaker.com
Yup I got one
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: chevron on February 01, 2019, 12:20:41 PM
This and the PSA thread, I have pointed out how buying is a gig job. There needs to be protection for consumers, if a business has you ship and item to a warehouse and you have proof it was delivered but they say it wasn't, they should be liable.

I would never ship to anyone, why risk it if time and again people are getting screwed ?
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on February 01, 2019, 12:24:51 PM
This and the PSA thread, I have pointed out how buying is a gig job. There needs to be protection for consumers, if a business has you ship and item to a warehouse and you have proof it was delivered but they say it wasn't, they should be liable.

I would never ship to anyone, why risk it if time and again people are getting screwed ?

Totally agree. I stopped doing that as we absorb the entire risk. 
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: gingyguy on February 01, 2019, 12:27:31 PM
I would never ship to anyone, why risk it if time and again people are getting screwed ?
seems like no one realizes th risk until its too late
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on February 01, 2019, 12:43:32 PM
Totally agree. I stopped doing that as we absorb the entire risk. 
+1

I don't begin to understand how they think this is acceptable.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: nobiggy on February 01, 2019, 12:59:14 PM
+1

I don't begin to understand how they think this is acceptable.

Simple, they can get away with it and still have a business run making millions.
Title: Re: Buying Group Master Thread
Post by: Danlover111 on February 02, 2019, 12:24:12 PM