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Re: Re: Interesting Articles... לא עבדו ישראל עבודה זרה אלא להתיר להם עריות
I think that if you think about it deeply, the belief system of society at large, i.e. moral relativism etc. is heavily influenced by a lifestyle that is incompatible with religious belief and observance and absolute morality , whether it is sexuality, hedonism, rampant consumerism, it is inconvenient to acknowledge a reality that imposes absolute morals and limits. If one looks at the philosophy being espoused at the highest levels of the most prestigious universities it seems to be influenced by the above rather than by deep soul searching and true introspection. The belief system them filters down to the masses and is accepted as gospel. This poor couple obviously lacked a true internalized belief and value system so they stood no chance when exposed to the morass of modern society. I think that is the lesson here- if your belief system is just a product of the people around you and is never internalized then it will evaporate as soon as the people around you change. We have got to internalize and educate our children to internalize who we are and what we believe in, not just expect our children to imitate those around them,otherwise it is not a true belief system at all; merely a transient product of a (temporary) set of circumstances....

March 14, 2017, 10:43:16 PM
Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
When in SIN I asked the shliach if he eats at CB&TL and skipped it when he said he would not.

Your background in yeshiva and DD leads you to ask questions and not make assumptions. Unfortunately most people out there have never thought to even ask.

April 20, 2017, 03:36:26 PM
Re: Pesach Program in Greece Cancelled Just Now!
+1, less time making food and setting up=More quality time with kids and more quality time with your spouse when the kids are in camp.

People aren't really speaking the same language here. Someone who makes pesach at home with each kid contributing hand made arts and crafts and divrei torah to the table, helping to bake the pesach dishes, portion out the matzah and Maror, taking turns serving & bringing washing water for zeidy etc., setting up props for the makos and acting them out, marching around the house to bitzeis yisroel, spending most of yom tov (and chol hamoed if you focus on the right venues) focused on the kids without too many distractions etc. there is no way they can appreciate the hotel scene. I've had guests come to my home who've been to some pretty decent pesach programs with their parents when they were growing up and they wistfully remark that they never knew what they were missing by not having experienced pesach at home.

On the other hand, those who go to the programs can't fathom how one can enjoy yom tov if they would have to non stop cook clean up and serve and be stuck in the house with nothing exciting for the kids to really do and hours of work with no down time for the parents for themselves.

Then again there are families who stay home and have a stressful time of it and really would do better in a hotel environment.

Bottom line is there is nothing like an at home pesach experience when it is done right, but not everyone is able to pull it off in the right atmosphere and a program is actually not a bad option for them.....

Lastly there are the programs where to goal is non stop hedonism, gorging on culinary dishes and dubious entertainment options for eight days straight while the kids are whisked out of sight so mom and dad can give their undevided attention to their pleasure trip while acknowledging that it happens to be pesach with a token Seder and a lecture or two where they are passive participants. I have nothing but pity( was going to say contempt but really pity is much more appropriate)for these folks because their choice of venue is just a symptom of the fact that they have no idea of the significance of the unbelievable holiday they are turning their backs on, a lifestyle where success is measured in terms of things and status, rather than relationships and personal growth, or both.

April 21, 2017, 02:34:54 AM
Rental market implosion in Lakewood- implications There are currently hundreds of rental apartments looking for tenants in Lakewood. Basement rental apartments have been particularly hard hit. There are dozens of units that have been vacant for more than six months, and some that haven't had a tenant in close to a year. Some homeowners have given up and have stopped advertising their vacant units. Consequently, rental prices have crashed to levels not seen since the 1990's. Three bedroom apartments with central air, high end kitchens etc. can be had for under $700 a month in some developements. The crash is filtering down to townhouses as well, where prices have dropped substantially.

For several years the demand for rentals outpaced supply, and rental prices rose to the point where the rental of a townhouse and basement apartment would fully cover the mortgage and taxes plus a hefty profit. Many homes were built with two rental apartments and investors bought homes by the dozen to turn into rentals. Low interest rates help fuel the building boom.

The supply of rentals began to outpace demand, yet hundreds of homes were in the approval/ construction phase and were completed adding to the oversupplied market. At this point, despite the massive oversupply of rental units, there are still hundreds of additional units being built including large scale apartment buildings, and even more in the pipeline in various stages of the approval process. It isn't always feasible to pull the plug on a project that is underway, even though the fundamentals have changed. Eventually the market will balance itself out as the natural population growth helps absorb the excess supply, but judging by the units in the pipeline, things are likely to get much worse before they get better..

What are the implications of the rental implosion?
The most obvious will be the impact on the home construction/ real estate market. With the rental income potential drastically lower and the financial incentive in place to rent there will obviously be an impact on demand and consequently prices. The Toms River and Jackson markets stand to gain in the short term since most homes there do not have a rental basement making their lower price point more attractive than a higher priced home in Lakewood with a rental.

Will there be even more young couples moving to Lakewood to take advantage of rental prices that are a fraction of what they will find in almost any other market?

Will it be easier for parent to promise support for young couples since they will be spending thousands less on rent each year?

What are some of the other potential implications? Thoughts?

May 01, 2017, 07:41:30 PM
Walmart pick up experience Is it just the Howell Walmart or are they all like this? Two separate pick ups two horrible experiences. they tell you to sign in through the app for pick up before you go to the store but it makes no difference.  There is one person manning the photo and online pick ups. The first time I went in for pick up it took him over 20 minutes to locate my item. Today was close to 40 minutes for two items. If Walmart wants to leverage their stores to compete with Amazon they have a long way to go.
May 15, 2017, 03:16:22 PM
Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
Less section 8/food stamps/medicaid to subsidize it?

Much more to do with brand of orthodoxy and psak regarding BC

June 28, 2017, 03:33:39 PM
Re: Please (Make and) Post your Kiddush Hashem-Honesty Story  A few years back I found a cell phone lying on the curb on a block right near BMG. I turned it on and it was obvious that it was not from a local resident. By searching through the contacts I was able to call the owner who turned out to be the wife of a pastor in Howell, a therapist who had been treating a kid near BMG. She knew she had dropped the phone in that vicinity of the kids house, and she and her husband were shocked when I drove over to drop off the phone by her door. She said if she had lost the phone elsewhere there's no way anyone would have gone through the effort that a guy from Lakewood did to get it back to her...
July 06, 2017, 07:05:52 PM
Re: Please (Make and) Post your Kiddush Hashem-Honesty Story Quote from: YOSEF on Today at 10:06:27 PM
"I don't know people here. And I'm not paskening any shailas.

I will say that I always was under the impression that the ikur chillul/kiddush Hashem is how yidden will see it, not goyim.

I also will say that returning aveidas akum is also not a simple matter from a halachic standpoint, and may be assur.

As such, someone sharing a story that he was machzir aveidas akum, and thinks he made a kiddush HaShem, may in fact be making a chillul HaShem with said story.

Either way, just to remind people, what we "feel" and what halacha requires of us, may be two extremely different things, and we should be careful to keep the goal in mind."

Your assumptions is incorrect. For backgrounds sake I have gone through a fair amount of choshen mishpat and if you will take a look at how the story unfolded it was clear to me that there was a chiyuv hashava. See sm"a C.M. 266:3 and biur hagolah #4.

Besides, everyone knows that the biur hagolah #3 says that we should return all lost objects to Jews as well as non-Jews. Vhamevin...

July 06, 2017, 11:47:49 PM
Where we would be without hilchos yichud and halachic boundaries

ďOne female congresswoman told CNN that she has experienced sexual harassment from her male colleagues on multiple occasions over the years, but she declined to speak on the record or detail those interactions.
"Half are harassers," she said of her male counterparts in Congress, before quickly adding that that was an over-estimateĒ

ďIn conversations with CNN, multiple women pointed to the elevators on Capitol Hill as a place where staff and members prey on women and say they have been advised to avoid riding alone with men if possible. One woman said years after leaving her job in Congress, she still feels anxious about being alone in elevators with men.Ē

ďHouse and Senate Are ĎAmong the Worstí for Harassment, Representative SaysĒ

What is really astounding is that these are the leaders of our country. When will people realize that without boundaries you are going to have problems. People deride these halachos and call them archaic when itís clear that chazal understood human nature- that men were not created with a nature to just ďcontrol themselvesĒ. That there need to be gedarim in place, not so that everything is then perfect, but at least to give men a fighting chance to do the right thing.

The anecdote in the CNN article about the senator shaking hands suggestively would give me pause even if I subscribed to the hetter to shake hands with the opposite gender.

Iím sure we will now see lots of harassment training and education. Apparently men just need to be educated and that will solve the problem. Until the next wave of stories come out.

November 14, 2017, 09:26:23 AM
Re: Prison Initially I vacillated between the feeling that white collar crime didnít deserve harsh sentencing, and the thought that perhaps if I had lost my life savings and my life had been changed forever as a victim, I would feel differently. The more I read, the more I am convinced that no one deserves to be treated in such a cruel, inhuman way, with such disregard of basic human dignity. It is little wonder that the rate of recidivism is so high when the inmates are conditioned to a constant existence in survival mode. I would guess that most of those who go through the system are not literate or articulate enough to describe their experience. If there were greater awareness there would doubtless be more advocacy in the frum world for our brethren who are suffering, as well as political pressure on the powers that be to change the system. You seem to be a talented, compelling, and descriptive  writer. If you were able to convey your experience beyond this forum (book form?), it would probably have an impact.

It is admirable that you worked have worked so hard and continue to work hard to turn your life around to such a degree. I think you deserve a lot of credit for what you have managed to do. Hopefully your story can inspire many others who still have a long road ahead of them.

December 05, 2017, 11:04:25 AM
Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising Vote for the most off the original topic thread of the month....
January 31, 2018, 12:02:32 AM
Re: More concerned with the way others dress than hechsher?
In Chakirah, the flatbush journal of halacha vol 23, Ari Greenspan wrote a whole article on the discovery of coffee and halacha.

Initially, thee rabbanim banned coffee houses along the lines of stam yaynam.

But this ban didnt hold. Personally, i'd like to see stam yaynam be repealed.

And my kid really hates those vaccine shots he gets by the doctor. They hurt. And he doesnít really see any point to them. So he thinks they should be repealed.

February 02, 2018, 12:36:50 PM
Re: More concerned with the way others dress than hechsher?
not sure your point ? You are either dimwitted or deaf. I dont drink stam yaynam, I said it should be repealed. These moronic attacks are childish. You clearly have not learned nuanced discussion techniques.

I.E. the reason stam yaynam was implemented is not relevant nowadays

ďThese opinions are mine, not my chavrusas, they are stuff we discuss, i'm not saying he agrees or endorses my opinions but he doesnt call me a heretic.Ē

I think my point is pretty clear- calling those following the generally accepted psak about non shomer shabbos touching wine a mishugas and stam yayim one of the first things that should be repealed, when the Chochmas Adam (as an aside, he might appeal to you as a posek; he actually wasnít one of those guys who sat in kollel all day; he was a successful merchant for 15 years learning on the side), at a time when the original reasons for the gezeira were likewise not relevant, states that it is worthy of one losing his olam habah- and he doesnít say this about most DEíORAYSAHS- should give anyone pause. Perhaps one is missing something that is relevant to understanding the gezeira, itís severity, and itís applicability nowadays. Perhaps a dose of humility is warranted rather than a snap judgement declaring something a mishugas or irrelevant and having no place in 2018.

I would never call you a heretic either. Just someone who has the potential to qrow and turn his cynicism into a healthy dose of skepticism, which in the end of the day results in a person who is stronger and healthier spiritually than one who never thinks for himself. I have faith that you will get there with time. Hatzlacha.

February 03, 2018, 08:25:21 PM
Stopping the tech monster they themselves created

 ďgiants such as Facebook, Google and Amazon used techniques common in propaganda and casino gambling, such as constant notifications and variable rewards, to foster psychological addiction.Ē

February 04, 2018, 09:06:32 PM
Re: Lulav for purim Iíve got a majestic palm tree plant that has lulavim (prob. not kosher) growing on it here in Lakewood. Theyíre kind of solid and quickly open to branches but they pretty much do the job if you catch them at the right time. Find someone with a palm plant in Brooklyn ( does Loweís/ Home Depot carry?) and youíre  in business...
February 06, 2018, 09:18:14 PM
Re: Do you Daven?
It starts with ďdonít listen to your RavĒ & ends with this.
א שיינע פנים

Anyone who thinks for himself could have seen this coming years ago. Same with Matisyahu.

February 13, 2018, 04:16:46 PM
Re: Dating in the jewish world while disabled
Sin doesn't always work like that. That's why we don't put ourselves into situations that could lead to it.

I agree that there ought to be a middle ground. But it's not a simple matter.

Agreed. You can easily create a situation where you are playing with fire.

February 13, 2018, 05:57:49 PM
Re: Attitudes towards body odors in various cultures (aka is deodorant permissible) Intentional or not, the OP was asking for this. Shut down this thread and move on to more productive things than bashing other Jews...
February 20, 2018, 12:28:43 PM
Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
Not my own but I don't remember the source.

Story with Rav Shmuel salant

February 25, 2018, 02:36:56 PM
Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
Please share.
Actually Rav Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld:

רבי יוסף חיים זוננפלד נהג לרקוד בשמחת תורה יחד עם מאות ילדים, אחד ממאות ילדים שזכו לרקוד עם רבי יוסף חיים ב"הקפות של הילדים" - היה הילד אברהם ברגמן שסיפר בסוף ימיו את המעשה הבא: שנה אחת, לאחר שסיים רבי יוסף חיים לומר את "אין כאלוקינו", ניגש אליו אברמל'ה הקטן, הביט ברב בעינים ביישניות, ואמר בקול שקט: - רבי, יש לי קושיא חמורה על הסידור...

הביט בו רבה של ירושלים ברוך, בפניו המאירות השתקפה היטב אהבתו העצומה לילדי ישראל. ליטף את לחיו של הילד, "שאל בני היקר" - אמר בעדינות. - מדוע, רבי, אנו אומרים קודם "אין כאלוקינו, אין כאדונינו" ואחר כך שואלים "מי כאלוקינו? ומי כאדונינו?" והלא הסדר צריך להיות הפוך שהרי קודם כל שואלים ואחר כך משיבים?... "נבון אתה", חייך הרב "בתשובה, אמשול לך משל נחמד":

"מכיר אתה ודאי את "מערת צדקיהו" שע"י שער שכם"? הילד הנהן בראשו, והרב המשיך: ברחבי העולם, ודאי ידוע לך, קיימות מערות נוספות, ישנן מערות קצרות וישנן ארוכות יותר, יש גם מערות ענקיות. ברור כי אין אור השמש יכול לחדור אל תוך המערות ועל כן שוררת שם תמיד חשיכה מוחלטת. מה יעשה אדם הרוצה להלך במערה ולצאת ממנה לאחר מכן, כיצד ידע את הדרך חזרה?

"אדם פיקח, המשיך הרב, עושה לו סימנים בדרכו: כאן יש אבן גדולה, ובפינה זו יש עמוד יצוק בקרקע וכדו' לכשירצה אותו פיקח לצאת מן המערה, יחזור על פי הסימנים ולא יטעה בדרכו.

שוטה, לעומת זאת, אינו חושב על המחר, ואינו שם לבו לעתיד. נכנס הוא במהירות, אינו משגיח, ואינו קובע לעצמו סימנים, ועל כן סביר להניח שיטעה מן הדרך הישרה, חזקה עליו שיאבד את שבילי דרך המלך. ואכן כבר אירע לא אחת שאנשים שלא קבעו סימנים, איבדו את דרכם ומתו ברעב!

יוצא, אם כן, שהסימנים שהאדם קובע בדרכו הם הבטחונות שבידי האדם השומרים עליו שיוכל לחזור בדרך הסלולה והישרה, ולא יטעה, חלילה, בדרכו. "גם עלינו", הסביר הרב בלהט, "לעשות לנו סימנים כדי שלא נתעה בדרכי החיים, ובכדי שלא נאבד את הדרך הסלולה לנו מדור לדור. ועל כן קודם כל אנו מכריזים: "אין כאלוקינו" וזהו סימן אחד! ואחר כך "אין כאדונינו" וזהו סימן שני! כעת, לאחר שסיימנו לקבוע לנו את הסימנים אפשר לצאת לדרך ולשאול: "מי כאלוקינו", "מי כאדונינו". שאלות מסוג זה לרוב מסוכנות המה, אך לאחר שהסימנים הראשונים בידינו, איננו צריכים לחשוש - אנו בדרך הנכונה, הישרה - דרך המלך!". כי כבר הסכמנו "שאין כאלוקינו" וגם אם נחקור "מי כאלוקינו" ועדיין ישארו לנו קושיות זה לא מה שיפריע לנו לצאת ממערת חושך הגלות כי האמונה מושרשת לנו מהשורש "שאין כאלוקינו ואין כאדונינו" וכבר אמר שלמה המלך "אחרית טובה יונקת מראשית טובה" ולכן הראשית שלנו זה אמונה "אין כאלוקינו" וגם אם בדרך יהיו מכשולים של חושך הגלות האחרית תישאר טובה. כי האמונה משורשת לכתחילה וכל מה שלא מובן אנחנו תולים בהגבלת שיכלנו הגס והקטן.

February 25, 2018, 03:38:29 PM
Re: How does it make sense that Chaggai lived for so long but isn't mentioned?
But it wasn't and I apologize. But the constant attacks on me are as stupid. I just have a lot of questions and maybe lots of uncomfortable ideas but I also have rabbinic guidance in my life.. (renowned rabbanim for that matter)  to say that I'm a heretic because I ask questions is quite silly.

Any ways, this should have been in general discussion in appropriate thread.. Apologies. Grateful to @cmey

Looked up the chazon ish. Though I'll stick with the rambams comments on achiya hashiloni as the one that lived very long.

Does it mean, the others didn't?  No.. Do I find it hard to believe?  I'll just echo the radak " ze rachok meod" maybe they did.. But apparently it's not relevant unless they hide some missing Torah we want to uncover

Any thinking person should have questions. I have many. Some Iíve found an answer to. Others I donít yet have the answer but I know that just as there is an answer to the former, there is an answer to the latter as well. Itís how one asks the question that is important. The sum total of human intelligence and knowledge is so minuscule as compared to the vast amount there is to know in the universe that it is barely significant. I believe that chazal and the Torah giants stretching back to Har Sinai had a connection to a source of knowledge greater than anything that can be humanly acquired. It doesnít mean that one shouldnít ask questions, but it means that one should approach such questions with humility and the knowledge that it is ok not to understand, yet to accept that there is an answer as well.

בספרו של הר' יעקב גלינסקי ע"ה 'והגדת Ė 'הגדה של פסח' Ė רעיונות ולקחים, סיפורים ומשלים", מצינו (עמ' 84):

"בעל התניא זצ"ל השתתף בשמחת נישואין. כמנהג, היה שם בדחן ששמח את המסובין בחרוזים, וכטוב לבו בוודקה החל משמיע דברי תוכחה נוקבים, לא חסך שבט לשונו, הצליף באמרי פיו. הוקיע מידות ותכונות, הנהגות ומעשים, וקבלו תוכחתו ברוח טובה. אהבת תוכחה, מקניני תורה. רק על בעל ה'תניא' דלג, וזה כה מובן. מי יעז להיכוות בגחלתו! אבל אם קנין תורה היא, נחון בה בעל ה'תניא' במידה גדושה. "מדוע דלגת עלי", תבע. "אמור את אשר בליבך!". הוודקה התירה את חרצבות לשונו של הבדחן. נענה ואמר: "וכי מה יתרונו של הרבי עלינו? ידיעת התורה שלו, בנגלה ובנסתר! ואני שאול: האמנם כן?! הבה נבחן Ė הרי מה שאני יודע, גם הרבי יודע Ė ומה שהרבי לא יודע, גם אני איני יודע. אלא מאי? רבים הדברים שהרבי יודע, ואני איני יודע?! מה בכך?! והלא רבים לאין שיעור הדברים, שגם הרבי וגם אני איננו יודעים!" פרץ הבדחן בבכי, והרבי בכה לעמתו..."

February 26, 2018, 03:37:13 PM
Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
there should be a thread just for lakewood grocery store.
i was just in gourmet glass. i bought honey mustand onion dip.
there was a sign that said honey mustard dip for sale for $1.99
there was no honey mustard dip in sight, only the honey mustard onion dip right by the the sign that said honey mustard dip for sale.

the store charged me $3.49
when i asked for the manager, i spoke to someone from customer service who told me i bought the wrong item that was on sale.
i told him how the sign was right by this item.
he said he didnt believe me, and he didnt check it out.
i went a took a picture and i asked for his boss...

he then started screaming at me and asked me if im trying to get him fired

only in lakewood....

Yes there should be a thread. I was in Gormet Glatt before Purim and bought a special bulk package of danishes at $6.99. I had a full cart, and several of the items were large quantities- 15 cappuccinos, a dozen yogurts, etc. I gave a quick glance at the receipt, and was surprised to see the total at ~$230. I had a loaded cart with some meats, Purim items etc. and I was in a rush, so I figured it probably added up. A few days later, on motzai shabbos, I happened to look at the receipt, and saw that the cashier had rung up a quantity of 12 on the danishes for $83.xx instead of $6.99. I shop pretty often at GG and never had anything like that happen.

First thing Sunday morning I went to the courtesy desk and the lady called over the manager, the one who seems to be around running the show a good part of the day. I told him what happened and asked him if it was possible to check the video from last week to corroborate my story and refund the difference. He looked at me for a few seconds and said I trust you. I told him if I were him I would still check the video because it was such a large sum of money but he said thereís no need and credited me back almost $80 on the spot. He told me that often people come to him screaming and yelling, and they donít realize that they get so much further by being pleasant and calm and acting like a mensch as I did; he tries to go out of his way to help those people. I still spread my shopping around, but GG definitely has my vote based on the experience I had.

I see you had a post not too long ago bashing Evergreen for a similar kind of interaction. Did you perhaps approach the manager in a pushy or demanding or less than courteous manner? Your post certainly sounds like you may have; perhaps it just reflects your unhappiness at the outcome. Just a suggestion that you usually get a lot further by being polite and respectfuly stating your case...

March 14, 2018, 10:33:00 PM
Re: Jokes Master Thread For those learning Yevamos:

A psychiatrist visited a California mental institution and asked a patient, ďHow did you get here? What was the nature of your illness?Ē He got the following reply.

"Well, it all started when I got married and I guess I should never have done it. I married a widow with a grown daughter who then became my stepdaughter.

My dad came to visit us, fell in love with my lovely stepdaughter, then married her. And so my stepdaughter was now my stepmother. Soon, my wife had a son who was, of course, my daddyís brother-in-law since he is the half-brother of my stepdaughter, who is now, of course, my daddyís wife.

So, as I told you, when my stepdaughter married my daddy, she was at once my stepmother! Now, since my new son is brother to my stepmother, he also became my uncle. As you know, my wife is my step-grandmother since she is my stepmotherís mother. Donít forget that my stepmother is my stepdaughter. Remember, too, that I am my wifeís grandson.

But hold on just a few minutes more. You see, since Iím married to my step-grandmother, I am not only the wifeís grandson and her hubby, but I am also my own grandfather. Now can you understand how I got put in this place?"

June 10, 2018, 01:23:55 AM
Re: When you like to travel but your SO does not...
When I dated it was one of the first things I spoke about.

Oh, I also canceled a date with a girl in order to go to a popup DO with Dan when he came to Israel. Never regretted that decision

She probably didnít either

June 12, 2018, 12:22:12 PM
3g service (most kosher phones) will be coming to an end
June 20, 2018, 07:04:00 PM
Re: Public letter
c'mon give him credit that was a pretty impressive pilpul

In the encyclopedia under the entry of מגלה פנים בתורה שלא כהלכה
they have a picture of this dude...

June 27, 2018, 09:21:03 AM
Re: Interesting Articles... A no-name Rabbinical Board could be anyone. For all you know it could even be those two vegan fellows featured in the article.
August 10, 2018, 01:45:23 AM
Re: Khashoggi (חשוקג׳י in Hebrew, כאַשאָקדזשי in Yiddish) disappearance
I won't shed tears for the guy, but did he deserve to be murdered?

I donít thing itís so clear cut. While he certainly wasnít a terrorist with actual blood on his hands, is that the dividing line? What about an influential personality who incites the Palestinians with claims that the Israelis stole their land, invented a historical connection to Palestine, and are perpetrating a 9/11 on the Palestinian people. Such vitriol is not harmless; it can easily do much of the work for Hamas, Hezbolla, etc. and lead to the murder of innocent people as has happened repeatedly in the past. Does someone get a free pass because heís not the one actually wearing the explosives belt on the egged bus?

 Do I think that the mossaad should put every inciter on a hit list? Of course not. But if his expressed views were indeed inciting people to violence (and that is something that can be debated) I would have a hard time saying he absolutely didnít deserve to die, though I have no sympathy for the Saudis and their barbaric methods...

October 21, 2018, 12:51:14 AM
Seasons Lakewood crazy low meat prices I was at Seasons Lakewood yesterday and they have meat on sale at incredible prices- way cheaper than anything Iím aware of in Lakewood.
Chopped meat (lean) $3.99lb
1st cut brisket corned beef $5.99lb
Cholent meat $4.99lb
Pepper steak $5.99 lb
Stew meat $3.99 lb
Cutlets $3.99lb
Chicken legs $1.99


I maxed out my freezer. Wish I had another.

October 29, 2018, 09:11:20 AM
Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...

1) The source for the halacha above is the Gemara Sanhedrin 47a. The Gemara learns it out from the depraved Jews who were killed in the time of the churban. They were clearly mechalel Shem shamayim barabim. See also Radak Yirmiyah 5:1

2) The source that מיתה is מכפר for chilul Hashem according to the mechilta is the passuk by the sons of עלי הכהן. They were מחלל שם שמים ברבים.

3) The numerous seforim who discuss the level of חילול השם and מיתה מכפרת are never mechalek. See for example ראשית חכמה פרק גידול בנים אות כח where he makes no distinction between the two.

4) If you still need a מקור בפירוש see the מרפה לשון (he was the one who appointed Rav Chaim Volohzhiner to be Rav of Volozhin) in עמוד התורה (p. 93 in the new edition) where he spells it out clearly.

I think itís time to move on and close the subject.

November 04, 2018, 07:48:16 AM
Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
What's with targeting doctors and threating them getting prosecuted ?
How is this a helpful video at all?
Why not talk about the facts of vaccinating? The benefits? The risks? What was the purpose of this video exactly?

Who is this guy by the way?

Who is Rich Roberts? Iím guessing you havenít been out to Lakewood much.

November 11, 2018, 01:19:57 AM
Re: "First" in Antarctica? מה שהיה הוא שיהיה ומה שנעשה הוא שיעשה ואין כל חדש תחת השמש י יש דבר שיאמר ראה זה חדש הוא כבר היה לעלמים אשר היה מלפננו יא אין זכרון לראשנים וגם לאחרנים שיהיו לא יהיה להם זכרון עם שיהיו לאחרנה

We tend to forget the passuk in koheles. In another generation someone else will organize a ďfirst tripĒ to Antarctica and someone will dredge up this thread. :)

December 18, 2018, 04:21:48 PM
Re: AO:Nature Valley Granola Bars, 36 Pack of Peanut Butter & Oats 'n Honey $4.72 This week Shoprite has a 12 ct box@ $1.77 with a 50 cents coupon sticker on he box which doubles for $1 off. Comes out to 77 cents a box.
January 01, 2019, 08:01:09 PM
Re: Time Travel
It's what bothers me about bechira chofshis.. if you have free will yet goes knows the future... How is it free will

It may sound trite but it is so very true:

The colors on a canvas were debating the nature of the artist who painted them.
ďIíll bet he is glossyĒ said one.
ďHe probably brings out shadowing effects nicelyĒ said another.
ďIíll bet he dries to a smooth finishĒ said a third.

Their attempts to analyse the artist are obviously laughably absurd, since they are lacking a frame of reference outside of their own narrow understanding of their own nature.

Assuming we can understand Hashem using our limited frames of reference is no different.

January 09, 2019, 11:11:02 AM
Re: Random questions.
Me? I understand that this is *your* belief. And the fact that you all are evasively noncommittal on it either way is corroborating my well founded suspicion.

To me it is all total hogwash - I wouldnt dream of "trying to understand". It is yehareg Val yaavor.

Your world view seems to be מצומצום כפשוטו

January 20, 2019, 09:33:16 AM
Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood I was in there for a short time so I may not have caught everything but my take is that they did a pretty good job in differentiating themselves. The prices are good across the board (POTF milk $2.39 eggs 1.29 etc.) , but thatís to be expected when they open their doors. Long term many stores end up creeping up the prices over time. Fruits and vegetables seem to be decent grade (Birds Eye broccoli and fresh raspberries in a kosher store? Really? I guess thatís Lakewood 2019) Bakery section is huge. Fresh nuts and fresh spices section is pretty cool. Meat and poultry prices seem to be pretty good but not incredibly cheap, and selection is somewhat limited to the basics.Israeli coke and Doritos among the Israeli stuff they stock.

Where they really stand out is their Costco/Aldis like feel. Aldis style store brand items, like bulk cholent beans, paper goods, and their own cheap brand of appliances- hot plates, pump pots, etc. all at cheap prices.

Some Costco style bulk items like bags of 50 French mini baggettss for $16.99 vs the usual retail package of the same brand that you find in stores for around $6 a dozen.  And then thereís the eclectic assortment of merchandise scattered throughout the store like a down comforter, menís shabbos raincoat, beautiful washing cups, stylish girls headbands, Jewelery, toys etc. that make the shopping experience fun in a Costco kind of way, though on a much more limited scale. Aisles are wide and store is huge and roomy, Costco style.

All in all a good job creating a fun, good shopping experience. As far as prices go really good now, but time will tell.

January 23, 2019, 09:16:25 AM
Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
I think it should be posted everywhere and every person should know about as this is only one of dozens of people swiping cc's and it's about time people realize people get screwed.

Thereís an ad for a swiping service in the Lakewood daily paper today. We swipe your cards monthly and cut you a check for the points. Apparently the message is not getting out to those who need to hear it...

January 28, 2019, 08:30:39 PM
Re: Ear infections chiropractor
A while back The Voice of Lakewood had  an article on  chiropractic adjustments for ear infections and I seem to remember that Dr. Shanik although he agreed that it can help but he felt it was too risky. Does anyone else remember something like that?

Does anybody have any experience or knowledge if it works?

I think I read that getting a tune up by a mechanic can clear up an ear infection in half the time.

January 31, 2019, 09:51:35 PM
Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
Never heard of this. When it says "2 for $4" it means you must buy 2. If you buy one, it's regular price. That's how it generally works, and it makes sense that way.

Thatís not the way it works in Shoprite, Target, Walmart or most of the Jewish supermarkets. Itís usually lly seen as a marketing ploy. Where you must buy the full quantity that is clearly listed.

In fact, charging more for one where it isnít posted would likely violate many states pricing laws, as well as potential false advertising laws, so itís a dangerous game to play...

January 31, 2019, 10:42:22 PM
Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood

Why would the sign say "2 for $4" instead of just saying "price is $1" just like all other items in the store have the price listed as a quantity of 1??

The answer is that the sale sign is specifying a special price if you buy 2!

It's very simple. Not sure why everyone thinks otherwise.

No, itís because marketing researchers study shoppers like they study lab rats behavior and they figured out that people buy significantly more when you advertise an item as $10 for $10 rather than $1 a piece, even though shoppers can buy one item at the sale price even when the offer is 10/$10.

Stores have shoppers behavior analyzed  down to exactly which shelve height to place the most expensive item and which size chewing gum or chocolate bar will be irresistible at the checkout counter.

February 01, 2019, 02:38:55 PM
Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread New Green Deal Compliant Automobile
February 13, 2019, 09:54:58 AM
Re: Bingo Wholesale Club Lakewood
I still dont get the whole scribbling on the receipt in Costco either.

The loss prevention person by the door in Costco is trained to do a rough item count and to look for items that may be hidden under other items. I once had the cashier scan two cases of water instead of three. I had plenty of items in the cart including a few that were scanned ďin cartĒ. The woman by the door glanced at the receipt, looked up and down at the cart, and said thereís an extra water thatís not on the receipt.

Bingo is obviously not doing that. Still having someone by the door is a psychological barrier to shoplifting. Thatís why Walmart has greeters.

February 17, 2019, 12:12:21 AM
Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
When did I say that?

What I said was:
Everyone should definitely be aware of the swipe for points risks. I'm 100% for that.

DDF is not a courtroom to warrant knowing all of the details and facts in the case. Nor is it acceptable to voyeuristicly want to know all the juicy gossip about the pain that others are going through. On the other hand, the more details that are known, the more real the story becomes to others, and therefore the more effective a deterrent it becomes to others who are about to do the same.

I think that enough of the story has been told here to raise awareness of the risks of credit card swiping as well as the risks of putting your nest egg with a couple of well meaning guys who can boast of amazing profits on a line of product,  but whoís lack of accurate financials is telling a very different story than what is really taking place.

However, DDF has a limited readership, and is probably underrepresented by those who need to here it most; people with limited financial literacy and sometimes limited online access. It seems clear that the principles involved are well meaning people who got it over their heads to something they might not even fully have understood. Iím sure they would want to educate others to avoid what they are going through. If the parties that are involved can get out a story that is detailed enough to make it real without sacrificing the interests of all involved, in a form that can be disseminated more widely they would be doing the public a great service.

In just that past few weeks I was approached by someone for advice on how to connect to guys at BMG to apply/ swipe credit cards to fund the operations of a (non- Amazon type) business that seems to have a fairly decent track record and business plan. I sent him the link to this thread and told him itís not a good idea. Heís a great guy, and they business he was looking to be an intermediary for seemed sound but Iím sure some of the others that people lost everything on did as well.

February 18, 2019, 04:44:07 PM
Re: joke for sheva brachot How about the one about the chosson who meets his friend shortly after getting married. The friends asks ďhowís marriage treating youĒ? ďWell, she really worships meĒ, he answers. ďHow so?Ē Asks the friend. ďWell, sheís always bringing me these burnt offeringsĒ.
March 03, 2019, 09:04:06 AM
Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
Guys, I have a sincere question and if Iím offbase please feel free to (nicely) tell me. Iíve read through probably 30 pages of this thread in the last couple days and Iím still having trouble wrapping my mind around all of this. Those people/transactions of the final months seem to totally be scams where these guys were clearly defrauding victims as they knew their businesses were heading south. The earlier transactions, however, seem to be totally mutually agreed upon transactions where the lender was happy to do so because of the money they made on the points. Everyone clearly knows that the banks donít intend for credit cards to be used this way (and that you arenít supposed to sell points).

My question is, do you think that certain attitudes of acceptance toward stealing and cheating non-Jews (ie, I know itís against the bank rules but those rules of the goyim donít really apply to us anyway) was also a large contributing factor, in addition to the obvious greed, in this clearly inappropriate behavior? Iíve seen people often post on DDF about how cheating non-Jews is permitted in Halacha, without any regard to whether itís something that is just Stam not good for them to do. Heck, this attitude is so pervasive in the Hareidi world (donít worry, I know that the MO world has other huge problems too) that my own kids try to tell me they can badmouth a non-Jew because itís not Lashon Hara! At which point I nicely explain to them that it affects their neshama to speak like that and mine to hear it.

Again, feel free to express if you think Iím off base here but I just feel like this is the elephant in the room here. Dan always makes very clear that not only wouldnít he do some swiping scheme to get points but he wonít even sell any points!  I donít see how you address one part without honestly addressing the other.

No comment on the above but I will say that there is virtually no one on these forums that uses credit cards exactly the way the banks intend them to to be used. Not me. Not Dan. Not anyone. If you think otherwise you havenít been on these forums long enough. Whether thereís any problem with using credit cards in a legal but unintended way is a different discussion for a different thread...

March 04, 2019, 12:25:58 AM
Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
maybe the Torah world should address the Chillul HaShem factor as part of their shailas and Psak.

This is one point I would agree with. I believe there is a huge underestimation of the risks of potential chilul Hashem even with activity that is technically legal , especially when it is not just a handful of people but a much larger scale. Likewise, there is an underestimation of the spread of information in this day and age made by regular people as well as the Rabbonim. Whether Yiddish, Hebrew, a spoken recording, a small time local paper, etc. everything is out there and we need to start acting like it is.

March 04, 2019, 05:55:04 PM
Re: Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
The difference is that the rest of the airline is operating either way. Except that the rest of the airline is a money loser and airlines lost billions for years until they figured out how to profit on the sales of miles.

Technically yes. Yet if the miles business disappeared tomorrow the airlines would still need to survive. To do so they would all raise fares, nickel and dime travelers just a bit more, cut marketing budgets in unison, renegotiate unionized labor costs, etc.  Iíll bet that without the seat upgrade pricing many airlines would lose money. Years ago when airlines were losing billions exit seats were a free perk. Would it be fair to say that they are responsible for saving the airlines from financial ruin? I donít think so. The main factors are actually far higher occupancy of smaller planes. That, and optimized variable pricing algorithms and other such changes that have a far greater impact. Miles sales  income is hardly what makes or breaks them in the end of the day.

March 18, 2019, 10:44:57 AM
Re: Kavey El Hashem-Ein Keloykeinu.How come in every shul i'm always falling behind?
And you admit to it? Btw, some people specifically do not say ashamnu more than once. But I definitely never heard of anyone lekatchila skipping pieces. Maybe you should consider davening with a slower minyan. After learning Mateh Efraim and associated Perushim I don't think you would want to intentionally skip any parts of Selichos.

I admit it. See attached. I also plead guilty to skipping some of the kinnos (from the ones not written by Rav Elazar Hakalir) such as some of the ציון ones if I find that one or more of the kinnos connects with me particularly , and I want to take it slow because that kinnah brings out emotions of the churban and galus. I find that preferable to rattling off all of the kinnos just to have gone through all of them. (The maharil did not say all of the kinnos).

By the avoda of Yom Kippur I had a hard time with the אמיץ כח piyyut. The language is difficult (along with some of the phrases such as והפר צווי כפתי) so I say the sefard version that is clear and allows me to understand and connect to  what I am saying.

I think that many of us are just not willing to admit that we need work on our davening. In the fairly yeshivishe place where I daven on shabbos the reason the guys are running for the seforim the moment they come in, and spend much of davening learning, is not because they simply canít  tear themselves away from learning; its because davening is difficult for them and itís easier to learn half the time.

We have to be honest that many of us are not where we want to be when it comes to davening. So we rattle off yotzros. And vehu rachum. And selichos. And countless other tefillos. Ideally we should all learn the beauty of davening and join super slow minyanim that allow us to say every word leisurely. But is that realistic? Two and a half hour shacharis on a Monday-Thursday of assures yimei teshuva anyone? (There actually isnít physically enough time between sunrise and tzeis on Yom Kippur to slowly say all of the davening and piyyutim that many Kehillos say.) But thatís not the reality. We can select some parts to have more כוונה or we can resign ourselves to rattling off everything hoping it counts for having said it. I donít think the latter is what we are meant to do. Obviously slower and more כוונה is the ideal we should all strive for, but donít let the perfect be the enemy of the good...

March 24, 2019, 12:21:37 AM
Re: Over The Top Purim Parties
And there are no Rabbis are willing to stand up to them?

They are donating several times what they spent on the party to Mosdos and the fact is that the venue is not ostensibly problematic; they arenít promoting mixed genders interacting outside in the surrounding area any more than Chaim Berlin, which had the same issue, nor are they out to intentionally intoxicate underage bochurim. Itís likely that most of these bochurim would get their hands on alcohol at one of the hundreds of othe venues where there is limited supervision, so to ask rabbonim to condemn these specific events is tough. To condemn every venue where there is limited supervision is as useless as yair Hoffman suggesting that everyone give out Snapple....

I find the over the top indulgence and gluttony and craving for status and recognition  that are a focus at many of these events distasteful and something that Achashverosh might be more comfortable with than Mordechai but I can say the same about indulgence and gluttony  with many pesach hotel programs, and a good chunk of the DDF trip reports, so letís keep this in perspective....

March 24, 2019, 07:03:51 PM
Re: Interesting Articles...
Mutiple personality disorder?

If he was Jewish he would have just typed it to himself on the screen and saved himself the cost of a stamp.

March 27, 2019, 01:39:09 AM