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Re: Marriott Certs Sale Just getting caught up on this thread since I last posted, let me answer a few questions that were posed.

I paid through paypal for the certificate and used amex on paypal. I have heard other people say amex is good with disputes even if you pay through paypal. I have never had to do such a dispute before so I cannot say, we will see what happens. Maybe if amex takes my side and refunds the money paypal will close my account for not following their dispute procedures. That is a risk I was willing to take.

There was another comment about risk information not being disclosed prior to buying. I agree with that comment. None of the information leeboy states was provided to me prior to payment. There was a google form that had some info, but I didn't see that until after I had paid him, and it had nowhere near the level of detail he posted here.

To the comment about the buyer getting a 90% discount, I would take exception to that. I paid $1100 for the certificate, had I not gone that route it would have cost me about $2100 otherwise. About a 50% discount.

The long and short of this is when Marriott terminates a certificate, no one is happy and wants to pay up. The buyer (me) doesn't want to pay for a hotel stay that did not take place, the seller doesn't want to refund the money they got for selling, and leeboy doesn't want to pay the total either.

It was never disclosed to me prior to booking that leeboy expected the buyer to bear all the risk. If it had been, I probably would not have booked. The certificate was cancelled through no fault of mine, so I think the right thing to do is for leeboy to refund the money.

Disappointed with this turn of events. I have bought and sold many things on this forum and others with minimal issues (I did once have an issue when I sold some United miles to a broker, but was able to come to an agreement with the broker to settle the issue).

December 15, 2020, 06:16:22 PM
Re: Marriott Certs Sale

Here is a copy of the form Submitted 6/12/20, 10:55 AM

You went ahead and disputed the charge with AMEX which essentially is just stealing from me.
I cannot take funds back from a seller 6 months after he sold me the cert because of something beyond his control. Again, I understand this isn't the answer you are looking for and I feel really sorry that the cert got messed up.
I do consult with a solid group of other brokers and mentors to make sure I am doing the honest thing in my business. If you feel it's morally ok to dispute the charge for this purchase then I guess it is what it is.


Again, that form wasn't provided until after I paid you. So whatever it says is really irrelevant as it was never disclosed up front. Thanks for posting my personal information online though, class act.

December 16, 2020, 05:43:14 PM