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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
TIL "Prohibited homosexual activity includes any non-platonic physical contact; even yichud (seclusion) with someone of the same gender is forbidden for homosexually active individuals"

Although I'm not sure how that translates into halacha.

Am I allowed to be alone with someone who's out of the closet or is that yichud?

What if you were alone with someone who comes out of the closet much later - were you in yichud l'mafreia?

February 22, 2020, 07:53:05 PM
Re: MLB Master Thread Not sure if this is the correct forum....
February 25, 2020, 02:18:19 PM
Re: Jokes Master Thread A reporter for an Israeli news service is conducting a "man on the street" survey about an ongoing meat shortage.

He stops an Oleh from Russia and asks "Excuse me sir, what is your opinion of the meat shortage?"
The Russian replies = "What is an 'Opinion'?"

He stops an Oleh from Ethiopia and asks "Excuse me sir, what is your opinion of the meat shortage?"
The Ethiopian replies = "What is 'Meat'?"

He stops an Oleh from the USA and asks "Excuse me sir, what is your opinion of the meat shortage?"
The American replies = "What is a 'Shortage'?"

Finally he stops a fellow Israeli and asks "Excuse me sir, what is your opinion of the meat shortage?"
The Sabra replies = "What is 'Excuse Me'?"

February 28, 2020, 10:08:01 AM
Re: Corona virus and your shull Governor Cuomo is brining in the National Guard to put a containment zone in New Rochelle with a 1-mile radius of YINR. This includes most of the frum community that davens in that shul, as well as two conservative shuls - Temple Israel NR, and Beth El - but doesn't quite reach to neighboring shuls in Scarsdale or other parts of New Rochelle

March 10, 2020, 02:13:16 PM
Re: Mazel Tov!!!
I managed to attend 3 weddings (over zoom) yesterday alone, that's pretty good news.

 I guess with zoom you can "Tance auf tzvei(+) chassanas"

March 23, 2020, 01:50:11 PM
Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread - COVID-19 related
FTFY because sitting now and listening to how one of the levayos went down today and this is how i feel.

 And another two close people that were rushed to the hospital.   I'm almost starting to understand how people at the holocaust became immune to family members being killed or shipped off.  We are used to the fact that if someone dies the whole community cries along.  But now its a new whatsapp message every hour about another person dying.

I worry about this a lot. I wish I was more optimistic that this was not only the beginning. Someone in my BIL's family passed away, the wasn't much of a levaya, and many family members couldn't go because they are at risk and/or restricted. As someone who has sat shiva for both parents, I understand the therapeutic value of Shiva. While, no doubt, these people can still sit shiva, and will get phone calls and facetimes, etc. I honestly don't think it's the same.

My two biggest hopes are that:
a) We don't become desensitized to the loss of life.
b) Those who are morning the loss of a loved one (or, R"L ones) should be able to have nechama and closure.

March 30, 2020, 09:54:18 AM
Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread - COVID-19 related
My shver was niftar motzei Shabbas in NYC. He was ‘lucky’ enough to get a Tahara but we had to bury him al tanai in a temporary grave so we can move him to Israel at a later date. Only option to get to Israel was via a private jet but body could not be escorted by anyone due to the quarantine laws.

I have to say this has been one of the most gut wrenching, heart breaking experiences of my life and watch someone who was a true yoreh shamyim to have had a levya with a few people in the rain at the grave site. Not being able to say Kaddish for him, not have a shiva and give proper respect to him has been truly unbearable.

This is not to mention he was isolated in an icu unit for two weeks by himself on a ventilator and died by himself with his children not being able to goodbye.

I am not someone who would typically share this info but people need to know what we are dealing with here. The pain is too much.

Sorry for your loss. Aveilus is extremely hard. Things like this are just salt in the wounds. May you find nechamos at this difficult time, and may hashem give you the opportunity to give your shver the burial he wanted after this is over.

March 30, 2020, 04:40:21 PM
Re: Any one have connections in - Good samaritan hospital
Thank you to all those that helped out!! After many hours of askanim working, we B"H have gotten through to the CEO of Good Sam and we were assured that they will make it available if needed.

Please keep him in mind in your tefillos.

Refuah shalayma - davening that he doesn't need it.

April 03, 2020, 12:54:13 PM
Grief / Aveilus Discussion I am not sure if this the right forum to post this, or if it will be helpful, or if it's even just a rant.

A decade ago, my mother passed away after her fourth battle with cancer. 15 months later, my father passed as well from a heart issue. Right at the end of kaddish for my Mom, I was talking in shul to another Avel about my mom's pending unveiling. An older gentlemen in my shul, a survivor, overheard our conversation and said - "Ich ben M'Kaneh zein" - I'm jealous of you - at least you have a grave to visit!

Shiva, Shloshim, and Kaddish helped me through the process. It made me feel proactive in honoring my parents, and helping me heal. As an out-of-towner, minyan was sometimes a struggle, since my options were fewer (Mincha involved driving 20 minutes each way for a minyan). And yet, whatever my struggle, I seems like I was spoiled, that I took this opportunity for granted.

I have several friends who unfortunately had protracted shivas due to Yom Tov, (some not even lasting more than an hour), and some of them feel that they missed out on that part of the mourning process.

How many people out there are in middle of their year of aveilus, being denied the opportunity to say kaddish for a loved one? How many can't give proper levaya to their loved ones? How many aren't getting the benefit of sitting shiva? Some don't even have the last opportunity to say goodbye.

I am not a shrink, I am not educating in counselling in any way. I just want you all to know going through this that:
a) this is hard
b) hashem will help you get through this
c) I am open to talking whether you think it will help or not. (I will do my best to answer PMs if you want to do this privately).

I will leave you with one final thought: Years ago I spoke to a psychologist who was helping people with PTSD from Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. He pointed out to me that in the text of the Mi-Sheberach, Refuas Hanefesh (healing of the soul) comes before Refuas Hagoof (healing of the body) - showing that Judaism understands and acknowledges that there is a mental and spiritual aspect to healing as well.

May all those who need a refuah, be granted a refuas hanefesh and refuas hagoof.

April 03, 2020, 01:09:22 PM
Re: How should schools and parents deal with tuition?

What happened on April 1 was from the largest geneives in our history, taking someone else’s money without a heter from beis din is assur.

Taking someone's money without permission is also illegal - but that's not really the case here. When you agreed to pay them for the year, you gave them the permission to take it from you in monthly installments. If you want to make the argument that you pay for each month for the services rendered - that's not the case, otherwise you should pay a lot less for Tishrei and Nissan than you do for Cheshvan and Shvat.

- If you have a subscription with a Gym, they have the right to keep charging you until you call and make an arrangement to stop.
- If you have a subscription with a newspaper, and it doesn't get delivered one day, you need to call up and ask for credit.
- If you have a flight booked on an airline, you need to call and make arrangements  - if it flies without you cancelling, you still owe them money.

In any of these cases, each business will fight you to keep the money you had previously paid them. So why should a Yeshiva be any different?

April 03, 2020, 02:37:40 PM
Re: ברוך רופא חולים People out of the hospital! I"H this thread will keep growing!
April 03, 2020, 04:34:38 PM
Re: Jokes Master Thread Chaim's mom gave him two ties for his birthday - a red one and a blue one. He was very appreciative of the gift, and thanked her. A few weeks later, he was going to a family simcha, where he knew he'd see his mom, and decided that he should wear one of his birthday ties. The blue one matched best with his suit and shirt, and he wore it to the simcha.

When he got there, he walked over to his mother, expecting her to be pleased that he wore her most recent gift - only to find her with a scowl on here face. Her first words to him - "So I guess the red one you don't like?"

April 29, 2020, 04:52:17 PM
Re: Seminary/Yeshiva Israel Rebbeim
Would have thought they’d be excited to spend a year in the holy land, and away from their parents.
If you’re right, then these societal norms are a colossal waste of money. Essentially people spending money they don’t have on something they don’t need, because of how they hope others will perceive them (should I dare invoke the words Shidduch sham?)...

A large proportion of seminary and yeshiva students only go because of social norms and will be thrilled at the first excuse to stay home.

There are a lot of motivations for kids spending the gap year in Israel, and I don't doubt that there are plenty of people who have the wrong motivation and/or just doing it to tick the right boxes on a shidduch resume.

My father A"H went to learn for a year at Torah Ohr under R' Scheinberg, Z"L in the late 1960s. He and my uncle (his twin) were among the few "americans" learning there for the year - there was no Israel "program". My Zayde felt it was important for them to live and learn torah in our land. While my dad didn't make Aliyah,  his other 3 siblings have. (We nearly moved in 1986, when he was offered a job, but my mom A"H nixed it).

I spent 1.5 years there before going to college. It was one of the most amazing and eye-opening experiences in my life. The feeling you get when you daven at the kotel, or when you are standing in a place where the stories you learned in Tanach actually happened, and you can visualize them coming to life.  Let's be honest with ourselves - most of us live in silos - Ashkenazi , Sephardi, and many times even deeper than that. You go to shuls and meet people who are very different, who's davening is the same but has a little twist or two - and yet at the end of the day, we are all hashem's children , coming together with one language (english).

Forgive me for being overly romantic. Yes, I understand that not everyone had the same feelings and experience that I had (my BIL, for example, went to the same Yeshiva I did, two years before me and left after a couple of months). But I know the value I received from my gap year in Israel, and I am forever grateful to my parents for letting me go.

May 05, 2020, 11:20:17 AM
Re: Corona virus and your shul Our shul is holding minyan out of doors. We still require masks. We do have a few to provide, but the Rav/Gabbaim are very makpid.

We're also makpid on social distancing as well.

June 01, 2020, 04:48:30 PM
Re: So How Was Your Shul This Week? Late to the party. I am in White Plains.

When Cuomo issued his order two weeks ago, the 7 shuls in southern westchester agreed that each shul will decide when it feels ready to re-open. Originally three said yes, but one backed out after two days and decided to wait too additional weeks like the other four shuls.

Our shul was one of the two that started - limiting minyan to 10 people. We have a signup. I'd love to cap it at the first 10 to apply, but can't do that for various reasons, including some chiyuvim who primarily daven at other shuls.

The first couple of days, the Rav invited 10 people, since the signup started we unfortunately have had to turn people away. Were very makpid about our ten person limit, as well as social distancing and masks.
General rules:
- Everyone wears a mask at all times - even Bal tefila/bal koreh
- Everyone needs to keep at least 8+ feet of distance from each other
- Everone brings their own tallis/siddur/chumash (We have an eiruv for shabbos)
- Aliyas are conactless. If you get an aliya, the Bal Koreh backs away from the Bimah, oleh approaches, but doesn't touch the torah, makes his bracha, goes back to his spot, and Bal Koreh returns.

For the most part it has been going good. For Mincha/Ma'ariv, we often split into multiple minyanim. (Understand we are a small kehila, weekday minyanim before corona had an average of about 20 people)

June 01, 2020, 05:00:57 PM
Re: Supreme Court Case - Espinoza v. Montana
That's a good thing when they don't rule the way people expect. Been a lot of that lately.

 I think it is a good thing, because, despite what we see as the judges 'biases' if you will, they clearly put time and effort into interpreting the law and constitution.

I think that another thing people often overlook when SCOTUS hands down a decision are the opinions within both the majority and minority. If the justices agree for different reasons, it doesn't mean that all similar cases will get equal treatment.

July 01, 2020, 01:37:33 PM
Re: Dwyane Wade Tweets our support for an Anti-Semite I, for one, am sick of cancel culture. The world is full of Anti-semites. Some of them, no matter how hard we try, will still be anti-semites. Others are just ignorant.

Obviously, I don't know how we could "fix" the former, but as for the latter - if we cancel them, we're effectively turning them into bigger anti-semites, rather than making them realize the error in their ways. If someone is in that latter group, we should educate them, invite them to learn more, why the stereotypes that they've been promoting are wrong.

Imagine DeSean Jackson's comments after the Holocaust Museum trip? Imagine if Nick Cannon goes on his podcast and says I was wrong to say what I did, and Jews are good people and suffer from discrimination just like we do.

July 15, 2020, 04:58:29 PM
Re: Jokes Master Thread A cop notices a man driving solo in the HOV lane, and pulls him over. "Sir," he says to the driver, " you do realize that this is an HOV lane, and you need to have at least one other passenger in the car?"

"But officer, I do!" replied the driver, " we're trying to observe social distancing so he's riding in the car behind me".

July 16, 2020, 01:14:41 PM
Re: Correct spelling of Yiddish/Jewish names
I've heard from one of the rabbonim from Washington Heights that the origin of Baila is from bella (French for beautiful).
It's actually Beautiful in Italian. My grandfather and his family lived in Italy before the war. After my Uncle's wedding, my dad had a conversation about marriage with his Zayde. His zayde told him not to worry, that he too would soon find his bashert,  ".. and she will be a Bella".

Although my great-grandfather wouldn't live to see it, a little over a year later my dad got married to my mom (A"H) - who's name was Bella. (She spelled it בלה , and would be the first to acknowledge it was wrong - but she kept using it.). Interestingly, we corrected it to בילה on her tombstone.

July 16, 2020, 04:14:03 PM
Re: Is It Ethical?
Have an appliance that's a few years old, a part broke - from an online search it seems it's pretty common, probably poor design.

I reached out to the company, and they offered me a replacement part, but I'd have to pay for someone to install it, or a rebate off a new appliance. Some of the options I'm debating, but not sure I feel comfortable with, are:

1) Find someone else who wants to buy an appliance and share the savings with them.
Assuming that the Rebate is transferable, why is that unethical? Even if the rebate is not transferable, there is nothing restricting you from selling the same appliance to another person.

2) Buy an appliance I don't really need, and utilize AMEX's return protection.

IMVHO, this is unethical - you're buying something you have no intention of keeping for the purposes of returning it.

July 22, 2020, 09:29:02 AM
Re: Riddles!
There are a lot of times we lein for a week (or more) days in a row - Succos, Pesach, Chanukah. If Rosh Chodesh is Tuesday and Wednesday, we lein 4 days in a row - in what situation would we lain more than 4, but less than 7 days in row?

When Rosh Hashana falls out Thurs & Fri and Tzom Gedaliah is nidche to Sunday. (5 days- Thurs through Mon)

Correct :)

July 27, 2020, 10:42:27 AM
Re: RIP/BDE Master Thread - COVID-19 related
This article mentions a heart condition?

I've heard from two doctor friends - one who is a cardiologist who discovered that clotting is a side-affect of covid, and was working on protocols for giving blood thinners to prevent clots.

Another is a Nephrologist (Kidney doctor) he and his colleagues saw a large number of COVID patients with Renal Failure. They did a post-mortem and realized that although COVID didn't cause the kidney failure directly, it put their bodies in a state where they were sick enough to go into renal failure.

So both Heart attacks and kidney failure can (and are) being brought on as complications of COVID

July 28, 2020, 02:06:57 PM
Re: MLB (and sports in general)
so lets just skip to playoffs and hand the yankees another title  :D

Ironically, the Marlins only have one loss. I imagine if we go another week, they'll probably still be the only 1-loss team in the majors :)

July 31, 2020, 02:10:55 PM
Re: Israel (Not) Reopening To Foreigners

One of my sons is going, I"H,2297,L-5775222_184,00.html

   פרופסור גמזו אישר מתווה כניסה לארץ ל-17 אלף סטודנטים ותלמידי ישיבות

פרויקטור הקורונה, פרופסור רוני גמזו, אישר את כניסתם לארץ של 17,000 סטודנטים ותלמידי ישיבות שיגיעו לתקופת לימודים ממושכת. ההגעה תתאפשר רק ללומדים במוסדות שאושרו על ידי משרד הבריאות. הנכנסים, בהם לא רק סטודנטים ותלמידי ישיבות, אלא גם משתתפי תוכניות מסע ונע"לה, יידרשו בבידוד לאורך שבועיים בעת הגעתם. כניסתם תתפרס על פני השבועות הקרובים והפעימות יתואמו עם משרד הבריאות ורשות ההגירה והאוכלוסין.

(אדיר ינקו)

Seems like good news for those that need it
One of my sons is I"H going in 3 weeks. Some of his friends yeshivos left yesterday. He showed me a text from a friend with a picture of him in NATBAG. I told him "That's nice, but I'm still not going to believe it until you send me one of those yourself".

I heard of one yeshiva taking an interesting approach - they can only handle so many students in quarantine, so they're having students come in waves - i.e. 1/3 left last night, 1/3 in two weeks, and 1/3 in 4 weeks.

Which still means a capsule system. Not fun.

Yes, but probably more fun than not going :) 

We were talking to a friend in shul who told us "If you need a place to go for Shabbos, you can visit my brother". I just laughed and said I don't think that they're going to have an 'off' shabbos for quite some time.

August 03, 2020, 12:01:53 PM
Re: Jokes Master Thread Cohen is shipwrecked and washes ashore on a small island. After exploring for signs of life, he comes across a small village of 3 huts - including two with Stars of David on their entrances. He calls out, and lo and behold, another Jewish man walks out. He explains to Cohen that he was also shipwrecked and wanted to build a proper jewish community on the Island. Cohen asks him - "What's up with the huts?"

"Well", says the man, " the first building, without the start of David is my house; the one on the left, is the shul that I go to."

"What about the one on the right?" asks Cohen, alluding to the other building with the star of david, " Is that the Mikvah? Yeshiva?"

"No," replies the other man, "that's the shul I won't set foot in"

August 10, 2020, 09:39:44 PM
Re: NHL Master Thread
They finally won something?  :)

This is probably one of the few @CountValentine posts I'd ever 'like' :)

August 10, 2020, 09:40:54 PM
Re: Jokes Master Thread In honor of my dad (z"l)'s birthday, one of his favorites:

Moshe runs into his old friend Chaim on the street. They start catching up. "Nu, Chaim, " says Moshe, "how's work these days?"
"To tell you the truth, I lost my job 2 years ago, and I have been looking ever since."
"Oy vey," says Moshe, " how are you supporting yourself?"
"Auf a Mofes", replies chaim
"Mamish a Mofes?", ask moshe
"No," laughs chaim," Mofes, it's an abbreviation - Medicaire, Welfare, Food Stamps, and Section 8".

August 24, 2020, 11:19:37 AM
Re: Nespresso - Master Thread
Is there any where else I can buy pods besides from Nespresso? Do they ever have deals?

There are also a lot of 3rd party pods for the Original Capsules. I have bought pods from Lavazza, Bestpresso, and Cafe Joe over the years. If you get them on sale you can get them for as little as $0.30 per pod.

Trader Joe's also has it's own brand of capsules, I believe it's $5 for a 10-pack.

Finally, both Starbucks and Illy have recently produced their own original line capsules as well - but those tend to be inline pricewise with with Nespresso.

... edit....

I just saw you were asking about a Vertuo, and I believe that Nespresso patented those in a way so that you can't legally make off-brand capsules

All of the above mentioned pods are O-U, with the exception of Cafe Joe which is Badatz (I haven't had starbucks or illy, but I believe that they are O-U as well).

September 03, 2020, 01:18:27 PM
Re: Jokes Master Thread  I asked my girlfriend to describe me in 5 words. She texted me back and said I'm mature, I'm moral, I'm pure, I'm polite and I'm perfect!

I was so happy, I texted it to my best friend and showed it to her, and she asked why I added the apostrophes and the spaces after the "m"s?

September 03, 2020, 01:33:26 PM
Re: Air Serbia $275 NYC-TLV I received an e-mail from Chase saying that I was given travel credit with Etihad. I had originally bought this flight with UR points. I PUTPAC Chase, and the UR CSR was able to verify that I was eligible for a refund, and credited my UR account with the miles I had used (will check tomorrow to see if they are there)
September 09, 2020, 02:41:19 PM
Re: Jokes Master Thread A little early, but give it 11 days to age:

After hearing about the aravot's symptoms (no taam, no re'ach), the lulav and hadasim were both placed in quarantine.  People now understood the wisdom of the etrog, who had been self isolating in a separate box the whole time.
I heard the Ushpizin are also told not to enter because of their age.

September 18, 2020, 08:43:58 AM
Re: Corona virus and your shul
I'd be pleasantly surprised if there's mass vaccination this year. More likely is targeted vaccination in Q4.

I often wonder how long it will take from vaccine approval to actually hitting a critical mass of vaccinated people. Even if distribution and manufacturing can be ramped up quickly - I don't know if I for one want to be among the first guinea pigs- I'd rather wait a couple of months to see how the early birds fare, and if any complications arise.

September 18, 2020, 03:13:45 PM
Re: Jokes Master Thread Seen on reddit:

A man sees a new medical clinic has opened on his block. The clinic has a bold sign that says - "$20 per visit, and if we can't cure you, will give you $100". He thinks to himself, easy money. So he walks into the clinic and tells the doctor he's lost his sense of taste. The doctor takes brings in a small vial of medicine and puts one drop on his tounge. The man recoils - "Eww, that's kerosene!" he cries. The Doctor turns to him and says - 'Looks like your sense of taste is back, that'll be $20"

The next week he tries again. This time he claims that he's suffering from memory loss, and pretends he'd never visited. The doctor again takes out a small vial, puts a drop on his tounge, and he says - "Eww, that's the same Kerosene you gave me the last time". "Looks like your memory is back, says the doctor, that'll be $20".

The guy waits two weeks, and tries to get $100 out of the doctor one last time. This time he enters the clinic and claims he is having vision problems. The doctor runs a few tests, and ultimately says to him. "You know what, I don't think I can fix your vision problems. Here's your $100" and hands the man a bill. The man takes the bill to put it in his wallet, and realizes that the doctor handed him a $20 bill! "Hey," he says to the Doctor, " what are you trying to pull? This is a $20!" The Doctor then grabs the $20 out of his hand and says - " well, I guess I did cure your vision problem after all, and you owe me another $20!"

September 22, 2020, 09:43:31 AM
Re: Yom Kippur Davening
I've heard that ashirus is a segula for Maftir Yona.

I guess they ran out of ashirim in my shul, and took the guy who the book is named after.

October 01, 2020, 04:34:29 PM
Re: COVIDiots
My dad had a worker come in last week a day after she tested for COVID, and obviously the test turned out positive.
My dad is not young and has been very careful. So stupid that he now has to have exposure because people are so stupid. Besides that, he had to go into quarantine for yuntif, ruining his yuntif. What was this lady thinking. She knew she might test positive and have to tell him. What did she gain by hiding.
Besides not being able to go to their children (each one that lives locally had a kid in quarantine), my parents now spent yuntif not together. I just don't get what this virus does to make people stupid

Since you phrase it as "my dad had a worker" .... makes me think that this is your dad's business (forgive me if I am wrong). So my question is, what happens to this woman, had she said - "I took a covid test, can I stay home or work from home today?" Does she need to take a vacation day? A sick day? Will her pay get docked?

October 05, 2020, 02:19:28 PM
Re: Jokes Master Thread A young political upstart defeats an long-time incumbent as mayor of the city. He shows up to his first day on the job to find a note from his predecessor on his desk, the note reads as follows:

"Congratulations on your win. I know we don't see eye to eye on a lot of things, but as someone who has the experience of the office you're entering behind them, I decided to share some parting advice. In the top left drawer of your desk, I've left two notes on how to handle crises in office ( I figure you'll have at least two of them during your term). Open the letter marked 1 on the first scandal, and the letter marked 2 for the second."

A few months go by, and the new mayor experiences his first scandal. He remembers the letters, and opens the letter marked #1 - it has one sentence, it reads: "Blame everything on Me", and so he does. He blames the first scandal on the failings of the previous administration. The scandal passes and all is good.

A couple of years go by, and now he is facing his second scandal. He returns to the drawer, and opens letter #2, it too has one sentence:

"Sit Down, Write two letters"

November 06, 2020, 10:08:48 AM
Re: NHL Master Thread

Devastating as an Isles fan. Such a good guy, veteran player on the back end, he helped mentor the young D-Men (of which the Isles have quite a few), had a bomb of a slapper, and was just seen as a tough but not at all dirty player.

Sad to see him have to go out like this, because of such a freak skate injury.

Very sad day indeed :( Hopefully he can stick around with the team in some capacity.

November 27, 2020, 09:26:43 AM
Re: Allbirds shoes
Does anyone have any experience with wool shoes, like Allbirds or Baabuk? How do they hold up? Do they need shatnez testing?

I have had a few different pairs of allbirds. I've alternated two pairs for weekday (m-f) wear and they lasted me about a year (each) so figure maybe 6-8 months if you wear them daily.

February 01, 2021, 03:01:38 PM
Re: Tehillim for people with corona virus My brother - Chaim Yaakov Yosef ben Baila - in ICU on a ventilator
February 03, 2021, 09:58:55 PM
Re: Re: Lakewood covid cases
Keep in mind this is in a neighborhood that is running basically as if Covid doesn't exist. So a scaled-down party was a significant sacrifice for which the organizer got mocked for.

Hopefully his sacrifice didn't sacrifice the lives of his guests.

February 03, 2021, 10:00:10 PM