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Re: Will the truth come out how this administration made blunder after blunder?
From Republicans and going to be run on FOX. Look at Dr Birx expression.

The poor Dr.

April 27, 2020, 10:20:39 PM
Re: Corona virus and your shul
Export-import confusion? Anyway, this is what this thread is unfortunately about, worth to hear a rational counter voice. Stop the "campaigns" on both sides.
What's rational about it?

April 27, 2020, 11:17:44 PM
Re: Corona virus and your shul
This part:Hence:Wasn't meant to endorse the whole.
That quote, if accurate, is very unspecific and is not relevant or supportive to the rest of his message railing against the letter of the 57 Rabbanim.

April 27, 2020, 11:27:53 PM
Re: Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
You're misrepresenting his words. He has a very valid point.

April 28, 2020, 04:03:12 PM
Re: Unemployment Help
Anyone tried to transition from full unemployment to partial unemployment in NJ? Did you keep getting the funds without a problem?
No issues in NJ.

April 29, 2020, 12:08:37 AM
Re: Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
Correct. I missed his bolding. This was not done in Europe and is not an accepted practice in most of the frum world.  Most ladies did not even attend shul in those days. If you have more information, kindly share.
It sure does have precedent. There were Chassidishe Rebbes who did not leave behind sons whose daughters said Kaddish after them. I know of multiple.

April 30, 2020, 02:52:46 PM
Re: COVID-19 consequenses to China Can someone please fix the spelling in the title?
May 03, 2020, 09:17:43 PM
Re: Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread So @sammyp is it about G-D or about liberals?
May 04, 2020, 11:59:52 AM
Re: Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
You need to do your own homework. You can begin by speaking with some of our local Rabonim, very respectable Rabonim who are davening by or conducting minyanim daily.(Some of them somehow had their names signed on that paper somehow too)

When you are done locally,  you can call the ones in Brooklyn, Lakewood, Eretz Yisroel and around the world and ask them why and how they disagree with our Rabbis.

I did my homework. I spent time speaking to and listening to lectures and shiurim which I got ahold of. I read many articles, many written in Hebrew.

Again, I follow my personal Rabonim. So should you. But don't look down or degrade those who follow the other opinion. At least acknowledge there might be another side. 85% of the frum world can be so wrong.
Tell me, did you learn how to count when you were listening to conservative talk shows, too?

May 04, 2020, 12:04:50 PM
Re: Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
Halacha certainly changes by location, if there is more danger in one place Halacha would change accordingly. Misinformed statement number 1.Agenda? We are talking about paskening a Halacha for the tzibur on a questionable subject which is up for debate. Did the Chofetz Chaim have an agenda when he published Mishna Berura?Source? I maintain 315% of poskim say no minyanThere is so much wrong with this post I could spend hours, but I’ll spare you. Here are 3 thoughts, though.

A) You couldn’t be more wrong about my political beliefs and viewing/listening habits. So much for your generalizations and assumptions.

B) Please quote one post where I didn’t acknowledge there being two sides to the METHOD of approaching this. I explicitly posted that I davened with a minyan today. If you claim that there are those who disagree as to the inherent danger, you’ll have to do more than just label us all CNN watchers (is that a dirty word now?). I’ll use the deaths of my grandmother, children’s pediatrician, 2 close family friends, and over a dozen friends and family members of mine sitting Shiva as proof off the REAL, ACTUAL DANGER. Your turn. I bless you that you never feel the extent of the devastation I have.

C) There is absolutely no “science” in the world that questions this. You’ll need to back yourself up if you claim there is. Rush and Hannity doesn’t count as scientists. Every single country in the world that has been hit has adopted social distancing measures, some to a greater extent than others. It’ll interest you to find out that there is a direct correlation between firm, decisive, early lockdowns and low death rates, not that you would need evidence, as it’s also inherently logical that if you can’t catch the disease, you won’t die of it.
Wait, there's halacha, logic and science here? You guys are just all liberals with an agenda.

May 04, 2020, 01:26:19 PM
Re: Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
As you might not be aware, right now Five Towns/ Far Rockaway is doing much better than most other places in the region. Numbers are all the way down. And we are still the only place where the anti-minyan activists are going full force.
Right, so now you want the death rate to go up? 🤔

May 04, 2020, 02:32:30 PM
Re: Calculating The Actual Fatality Rate
They are way past kool-aid. They are lysol drinkers.
If they were Lysol dousers at least we wouldn't be hearing this stupidity too much longer...

May 04, 2020, 03:40:06 PM
Re: Is Right Wing Media Pushing You Left Over COVID-19? Left, right. I don't identify with either. They are all frauds. All they care about is their "honor" and money. This is kindergartners playing games with people lives. I can't fathom why people eagerly swallow all the garbage the pundits push down their throats. I identify with certain policies only.
May 04, 2020, 03:53:34 PM
Re: Is Right Wing Media Pushing You Left Over COVID-19?
These forums are pushing me right

I feel like I'm reading cnn/MSNBC on these forums
And you, sir, are an example of what @Dan was referring to.

May 04, 2020, 08:35:23 PM
Re: Is Right Wing Media Pushing You Left Over COVID-19?
So? Everything he says is Moshe misinai?

I'm not saying that covid doesn't exist
Just that you're all being delusional

May 04, 2020, 08:55:14 PM
Re: Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
You are a troll. You keep on misquoting me out of context. You should apply for a job at CNN
I legitimately have no idea what your problem is, but you really need help. רפואה שלימה
Way to go, guys. You've really made your case. Thank you so much for making it clear there are no two sides the way you both present it. Have a good day.

May 04, 2020, 09:54:47 PM
Re: Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
You are correct. I was just trying to show that practically the poskim bring it l'maaseh. True היכי דשכיח היזיקא שאני, the question is if we are now in that situation especially when proper protocol is kept. Even a few weeks ago when the situation was a lot worse, one of the great Gedolim here in America gave a talk (in Yiddish) in which he said that based on his research, the chance of harm goes up about .1% when davening in a shul. He paskened that is not called  שכיח היזיקא. And that is even davening inside a shul.
.1%? Lol.

I think we spoke about slightly mixed up math in this thread already.

May 04, 2020, 11:54:20 PM
Re: Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
i think he’s referring to a VERY known godel in BP.
I don’t think posting a name here is the right thing.
The same one who said you can't daven at home because maybe there's a sheitel around with Avoida Zara hair?

May 05, 2020, 12:30:43 PM
Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19? That certain people and personalities revealed their stripes.
May 05, 2020, 03:45:06 PM
Re: Optimum internet
Its less then extra $20
28 mb and 250 what i have on average is a huge difference.
20 MB is fast enough for one computer simple web browsing. For streaming or more users you could use more.

May 06, 2020, 05:08:31 PM
Re: Do you know someone who has had Coronavirus after Pesach? Way too many likes for something claiming to be based on current "data", when the numbers are still way too high. You're relying on anecdotes and assumptions for the Jewish communities in making life threatening decisions.
May 06, 2020, 05:29:28 PM
Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic)
Do you not realize that this is a huge political debate in the 5TS and it isn't as easy as positing a letter?!. They keep having votes and it's a very complicated matter. In any event it really isn't anyone's here place to be judging any of these rabbonim or to be commenting on a matter to which they have no clue as to the whereabouts or the makings. Its foolish and naive to come here read 3 comments and make any decisions or comments  based on that
You still didn't say anything or answer his point.

May 10, 2020, 12:17:21 AM
Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic)
And I'm not going to, just telling him to stop talking about something he has no clue about
Have fun. You didn't post anything that would make anyone stop.

May 10, 2020, 12:22:34 AM
Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic)
Did you read the post by the other doctor on Friday?

Now many people are immune. There is heard immunity developing. There are barely any new cases in our community at all. I think 3 minor cases last week. Cuomo said 88% of new cases in State are from those who were 100% quaranteed with no contact.

So if all rules are kept, your chances go up 0%.
Again with the funky math.

May 10, 2020, 12:46:48 AM
Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic) This thread is nominated for "the most lopsided argument on DDF thread".
May 10, 2020, 12:48:43 AM
Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic)
As I have been saying, in order to take a side, you need to hear both sides. If you need a citation, you obviously have it been listening to one side. I have heard both sides extensively prove their cases.

If yiu missed the other side, Gogle is your friend .

Why do people always pull out one line and comment, and ignore the strong arguments without rebuttal?!?
As always, silence is NOT an admission of agreement on DDF. It just means that people lack the stamina to keep on arguing with made up "facts", illogical arguments, deceiving statements, nasty and degrading comments, and fuzzy math.

May 10, 2020, 08:38:32 AM
Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic)
Are you serious?!
Super serious. After all, he just wrote last night that it helped.  ::)

May 10, 2020, 08:39:30 AM
Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic)
I’m trying to listen to both sides. You’re representing one side here, and you’re not offering proof for your assertions. The “other side” offered a fair amount of linked/quoted/referenced sources.

You referred to many infectious disease doctors and professionals having a position, back that statement up with a source, a list of sources, or at least a list of some of these professionals, or I will be skeptical.
And unnamed Rabbanim who had a gun held to their heads.

May 10, 2020, 09:02:46 AM
Re: Is there a second wave?
De Blasio only found this out in April, and he's in charge of the biggest hotspot in the country.
Biggest ego/biggest idiot goes together with the biggest hotspot.

May 10, 2020, 10:00:33 AM
Re: Corona virus and your shul
Did he mean complete quarantine or people keeping to social distancing for the most part but going for waks and watching the Blue Angels and going shoppong etc.?
100%. That number is total garbage and open to false interpretation.

May 10, 2020, 11:52:25 AM
Re: Corona virus and your shul
not everything that is so called “common sense” to some is really the reality for all.

Didn’t gov Cuomo say recently that 88% of new cases were from quarantined individuals?

The fact that you’re calling some Jews leaders murderers without digging deeper on what there halochic stance was, says something about you.

Enough with this garbage. Move on...
Can you honestly say they're not? Can they say ידינו לא שפכו את הדם הזה? Enough with the sugarcoating. Not everyone who says that they are a Rav or a Rebbe is meant to be one.

May 10, 2020, 11:53:46 AM
Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic)
+1. Please take a breather, come back in 3 days, and post more respectfully.
If you can't, please don't come back.
I was surprised it lasted this long. Others have been banner for far less.

May 10, 2020, 03:43:40 PM
Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic)
Time to close this thread
Well, it seems like the ban on one person was all it needed. Hopefully, he will take the time out to rethink his outlook a little.

May 11, 2020, 10:35:51 AM
Re: Corona virus and your shul
But then what everyone speculate about if we actually had hard facts?
They could speculate how much money I have in my bank account.

May 11, 2020, 10:41:30 AM
Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
And u know that because....? 40 from guys in my office tested for antibodies and they all had. 50 guys from my shul and 49 had. Maybe you don't know everything?
Try being a little more respectful, please.

May 12, 2020, 11:27:31 AM
Re: Corona virus and your shul
When disagreement = stupidity you'll find it everywhere. Change your attitude in life boy
Please stay respectful. I'm pretty sure he's much older than you.

May 12, 2020, 07:47:54 PM
Re: Minyan Guidance In Your Community
Lakewood rav/shul, seemingly without consulting with medical professionals.
Which shul? And what does car accidents have to do with it? You have to know how to be Medame Milsa Lmilsa...

May 12, 2020, 08:15:14 PM
Re: Minyan Guidance In Your Community
In the context he uses it the comparison makes sense.
Technically, but easily misconstrued.

May 12, 2020, 08:22:49 PM
Re: Antisemitism related to Coronavirus
There's not enough info here to determine any real conclusion on the case.
There's videos going around that I did not want to watch because it is disturbing. From what people describe, it matches up with why his "Beis Din" is banned by the poskim in Lakewood.

May 13, 2020, 12:21:01 AM
Re: Dropping Antibody Levels
Not sure what one has to do with the other. If your a real estate attorney, and start saying things about criminal law, nobody would question ur knowledge. Its simply not ur field.
Yet, you deem yourself qualified.

May 14, 2020, 11:53:39 PM
Re: Corona virus and your shul For some reason (aka eyewitness reports) I don't think that the people who had been attending shul all this time have been keeping the full 6ft at all times, including during Krias HaToirah, and wearing masks.
May 15, 2020, 04:17:50 PM
Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
If true it would be one of many disastrous side affects of the lockdown.
Come on. Cut it out. So when kids are in school all day they get more vitamin D than they do now? My kids are outside all day now. And besides, if their vitamin D levels are so dangerously low, why wouldn't you be taking pills?

I think you are attributing way too much significance to the power of Vitamin D.

May 17, 2020, 09:47:53 PM
Re: Covid-19 Symptoms In Toddlers - Rashes / Hives
Ummm seriously? Just do a simple google search of inflammatory disease and Vitamin D.

You still need sun to activate the pills.
Your kids might be out but for most that's only a recent occurrence. Most kids spend at least a few min outside each day, even in wintertime. For about a month many kids in the city did not do that at all. Even for a few minutes a day. Do we know the effect of spending 10 min a day outside vs 0? I know it might seem like a small amount, but it's very possible that that's enough to keep us going and when we don't get that, certain things start failing.
Yes, seriously. I stand by my above comments.

May 17, 2020, 10:14:38 PM
Re: Did you test for antibodies? POLL
if you have blood type O you are immune without antibodies - my friend told me so
Except that I know of a few people with blood type O who were hit hard.

May 19, 2020, 10:37:52 AM
Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic)
Dr glatt definitely isn't a happy camper right now
Can you stop?

May 20, 2020, 12:10:54 PM
Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic)
+1, so much unnecessary negativity.
At least the two of you identified themselves.

May 20, 2020, 12:38:40 PM
Re: Did you test for antibodies? POLL
They said they got them in and they will email the results either today or tomorrow.

May 21, 2020, 01:16:01 PM
Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
What's a bimah? Is that something from the olden days, like in the Beis Hamikdash? ;)
For those who drink GF it's a Bamah.

May 21, 2020, 03:12:35 PM
Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
Some really good news.
“We were totally stunned at first, and then we were really happy,” one of the researchers, Olga Kovalchuk, told CTV News.

I couldn't resist. :)

May 21, 2020, 04:46:43 PM
Re: Corona virus and your shul
Obviously this shouldn't be taken literally. But what I think he means is the focus on the סור מרע where the "רע" is constantly mentioned rather than focusing on the עשה טוב, having a meaningful davening, feeling connected to Hashem, respecting shul because its Hashems house, yet feel at home there.
It would be easier to understand it that way if the rest of it wasn't so......

May 21, 2020, 06:03:53 PM