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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
And of course non citizens don't have the same rights as citizens,  and its a privilege to come here.  Tell that to the boatloads of Jewish refugees who were sent back to nazi Europe
Not to pick on you specifically, but this point is one that while I understand it somewhat, seems to be a bit stretched. Do you or anyone else really believe that just because someone in todays world is cracking down on Muslims that means theres only a short distance to cracking down on Jews??? Sure, halacha hi beyadua she'esav sonei leyaakov, and persecution of us Jews even in America is possible at any time and for any reason, but I think its a still a big leap to say that someone who is trying to restrict the people and religion that espouse hatred of Western civilization and values, not to mention Jews, might try to come after us by that same token. When Jewish people are committing mass murders in the name of their religion (misguided or not) and are clearly the greatest threat to normal, sane people living peaceful lives, than sure, Trump might make Jewish visits and immigration to America much more restrictive too. But I dont see how that follows automatically at all. You can't say that singling out one religion automatically means the increased liklihood of singling out other religions, if the religion being singled out is different than the rest by (at a minimum) containing within it large and identifiable segments that are liable to start shooting and blowing people up that they dont agree with......

January 29, 2017, 11:04:43 AM
Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
To answer your question,  which I now understand may not be pertinent to the actual facts,  Yes,  I really believe that.  That's one of the beautiful things about the USA,  and it can be destroyed.  Rav Moshe speaks about this in several places.
As I wrote, I certainly agree with that and it can happen at any time. I just dont see how this is logically and al pi derech hateva, in any way a precursor to that, since there is no logical or any other kind of leap automatically from Muslims to Jews. Care to explain further?

January 29, 2017, 11:20:36 AM
Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
Ooooohhh, you're sooooooooo close. See how bad it is to throw people out based on skin color? Now keep going with that line of reasoning......
Ok Ill bite. (This goes as a reply for David Smith too.) It is simply an absolute fact to anyone paying attention the past 17 years or so, to whats gone on in Israel to Lower Manhattan to France to England etc. all throughout the world, that there are a great number of Muslims who believe that their religion requires them to kill and otherwise destroy other people, with Jews and Americans sharing space high up on that list. The estimates of how many Muslims are radicalized in this fashion vary greatly, but everyone agrees there is a not insignificant amount of them, to the point that anyone deciding about admitting a large group of them into their country would be criminally negligent not to take that into account. Either you're a whole lot more close-minded and racist than me to the point that you believe that a similar case can be made based on skin color, or so much more open-minded that all your brains fell out and you truly dont recognize the threat radical Islam poses to you and yours. In either case, I do not see there being any kind of comparison between tough immigration policies to weed out radical Islamists and racist policies, the former is simply common sense while the latter is obviously reprehensible.
This thread somtimes reminds me of what Queen Elizabeth is reputed to have said while opening an insane asylum, "Really you are the sane ones, but we are the majority." I honestly dont get why what Im saying is even at all controversial, and the snide attitude and comments you guys throw out there just reinforces the feeling of the mental disorder that is liberalism and its fierce contagion...... :-\ But I think Ive said enough so Ill leave it here guys, you can have at it  :-X

January 29, 2017, 09:14:19 PM
Re: Things To Do In Israel Master Thread
Anyone have any recommendations - for a Jeeping company (for a family with young kids - 7 and 5)?
Bentzy is great, can be booked through

June 22, 2018, 08:26:30 AM
Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
That changes nothing about what I wrote.
You can't really blame kids and teens for acting out when their passions and sensitivities are inflamed, they are by nature too underdeveloped as of yet emotionally and logically to expect them to respond appropriately. That's where the adults, parents and teachers, are meant to step in and guide them. Kids coming out of this episode with the idea that this was the appropriate response to something they don't like, and that maybe it even has the tacit approval of some adults, is the worst possible outcome from a maturation and educational perspective.

April 16, 2019, 12:48:58 PM
Re: Donating blood/plasmas In case anyone can benefit from hearing about my experience. Got tested last Sunday in Lakewood in the Bikur Cholim drive in BlueClaws, which was super well run btw, and easy. They called me on Tue. to tell me that I had a high level of antibodies (no surprise to those that know me, as I have always been super anti(every)bodies  ;)) and told me to expect a call from the lab as soon as there was an opening, either Thurs. Fri. or Shabbos. They told me their poskim held that it was sufficient pikuach nefesh that they would have a goy drive me on Shabbos if necessary. Thankfully didnt come to that as the lab called me the next day (Wed.) that they had openings on Thurs. (they were booking every 20 min.). The lab was in Parsippany about an hour and a half drive from Lakewood. When I got there filled out a bunch of screener questions, had a quick physical of my vitals and a finger prick to check my iron, and eventually was hooked up to the machine. There are two tubes, one takes your blood, it goes through the machine which takes out your plasma, and then it goes back in via the other one. The whole thing took about 45 minutes. Then you wait about 15 minutes and eat and drink (you need to bring your own food for kosher, but they have juice and water) and make sure you're ok before you leave. I overheard them telling someone that the plasma they take is enough for four people, and also that my plasma was designated to go to Jersey Shore hospital. I did not experience any ill effects B"h. I just hope that someone can benefit from my plasma bez"h.
April 27, 2020, 02:18:29 PM
Re: How much milk do you have in your fridge? Didnt read the whole thread so I apologize if this has already been wrtten upthread, but am I the only one who was wanting to give Chai Rotel of m,ilk to all passerby yesterday to get rid of some of the surplus from school lunches?  ;)
May 13, 2020, 01:24:23 PM
Re: Re: So How Was Your Shul This Week?
My Shul (which was open on Shabbos with restrictions) sent out an email that there wont be shacharis on Sunday and everyone should please daven with backyard minyanim
My Shul same. I was rather disappointed on Shabbos that there was not even a minimal effort at keeping any restrictions (e.g. not one person was wearing a mask, when I asked the gabby before Shabbos if I should he said up to you... all they did was somewhat limit the attendance at each minyan to 40-50 instead of 200...). Maybe I'm missing something here, but if that's the case, then basically they are throwing up their hands and saying this is over so we can go back to regular life, in that case why not today also (for that matter given the fact that in this neighborhood there has been next to zero social distancing for weeks already especially WRT the kids, why not open 2 weeks ago?) And if there's a responsible adult saying that it's too soon to reopen either because of safety or aivah (not my intention to discuss whether I agree with that or not) then why allow the Shul on Shabbos to basically be open in a regular fashion?? I'm left scratching my head....

May 24, 2020, 12:48:19 PM
Re: Re: So How Was Your Shul This Week?

Btw, there was one guy that basically came dressed in a HazMat suit. Im pretty sure it was @S208 almost went over and said Shalom alecheim but I didnt think youd wanna socialize.
Is @s208 @S209's older brother?  ;)

May 24, 2020, 12:49:11 PM
Re: Re: So How Was Your Shul This Week? Kinda hard when reading this thread to not get caught up one way or the other, but just to try to lower the flames here a bit in the spirit of Rabbi Reisman's wise words posted upthread. It does not have to be all or nothing. Meaning, that while reasonable people can and do disagree (sometimes unreasonably  ;)), there are actual doctors and competent Rabbis who maintain that in certain communities (Lakewood for example) the virus seems to have now run its course (at least for now). And there has been more than a few weeks of almost no social distancing (for better or for worse, thats just been whats going on especially with the kids) with no signifigant uptick. This would seem to allow for some lessening of restrictions.
And while I think they would all agree on the need to be vigilant for any sign of a re-bound, the current data (new infection rate, hospitalization etc.) being relayed by Hatzala and local medical facilities, tells a certain story for now. Of course vulnerable people need to be extra careful, and it would behoove everyone to continue with certain precautions- as relevant and possible, but we are clearly not in the same place now that we were before Purim.
And as an aside, please correct me if I'm wrong, but while I understand the reluctance of most doctors to say so outright (they and everyone have been fooled so much by everything about this novel virus and been wrong about so much so often), the overwhelming data seems to support the fact that those who have antibodies are almost certainly not going to catch it again (for at least a significant amount of time, let's not forget there are countries well ahead of us on this, and there has not been any significant reports of reinfection). So to say that only those who have antibodies should come to shul presents a whole different precaution level. (Of course there are other issues with that in cases where it effectively ends safe backyard minyanim for those not yet infected.)

May 24, 2020, 05:06:42 PM
Re: Re: So How Was Your Shul This Week?
Just for some perspective:
As you said for some perspective.... This does make a viscerally strong argument, and it serves as a good reminder to BE CAREFUL! But to be balanced, nobody can say for sure that SARS-2 will act like the Spanish flu and not like other outbreaks where there was no second wave. Ultimately no one knows for sure but He who knows all, and while He commands us to guard our lives exceedingly carefully, the Torah also allows for engaging in normative behavior despite the risks. Once again, reasonable people can and do disagree as to what the parameters and how to determine what that normative behavior includes.

May 24, 2020, 05:34:48 PM
Re: Corona virus and your shul Sometimes I just don't get us.... I definitely hope and believe that the virus has subsided from my community, and I'd even be ready to take substantial risks of my own as given my antibodies I think I am not getting or giving the virus. And certainly I was thrilled beyond words to go back to Shul for davening and learning this Shavuos, and thankful to Hashem for the gift of it happening.
However, I am quite disappointed and considerably fearful about what seems to be a completely irresponsible overreach on the reopening. When dealing with a tzibbur and the exponential multiplication of risk of re-opening shuls etc. can anyone say with absolute certainty that they are ready to shoulder the responsibility for what might happen? Can anyone definitively say it is absolutely over?
Would it really have been that onerous even given what we believe about the virus waning, to have instituted reopening with some modicum of safety measures, first and foremost requiring everyone to wear a mask? I get that it's uncomfortable to daven in a mask, but even assuming the risk is minute would it not be prudent to go a long way towards ameliorating that by making everyone wear one?
And then the Shul (which just 2 days ago was talking about stringent social distancing and limiting the amount of people who could come, which of course never materialized in practice) goes and has a Neilas Hachag...... I know everyone wants to get back to normal as soon as possible, and maybe minyanim and Torah in Shul really are essential services, but is a Neilas Hachag and the inevitable Kiddush I fear is coming next week, really essential? Even if only to show some kind of acknowledgment to the tens of thousands of Yidden around the world who were unable to daven in Shul this Yomtov, basic sensitivity would be no Neilas Hachag in Shul. Sometimes I just don't get us.... SMH

May 31, 2020, 12:22:20 PM
Re: Is Covid Spiking in Boro Park? And that's really the core of this. People seem unable (on both sides) to a) adapt their thinking and actions in response to changing circumstances (and accept the facts of those changing circumstances) and b) allow their brains to mature to the point where things are not all binary choices, it does not have to be all or nothing, even some people wearing masks some of the time is better than nothing. It's not about trusting/believing/knowing that mask wearing etc. is absolutely the end all be all or that we have to all stay locked up in our hermetically-sealed basements to survive, you do what you can to mitigate the risk to yourself and others as much as you can, certainly when it does not involve undue hardships. And sorry, being a little uncomfortable when wearing a mask does not rise to the level of undue hardships. And for those that really can't take it, take breaks or take it off every once in a while, it will still be helpful when you are able to wear it. Is this not simple and logical???
September 30, 2020, 09:37:37 AM
Re: Lakewood covid cases
These are Rabbonim who listened to what the askanim and doctors had to say and decided on a course of action. Rav Uri Deutch and Rav Chaim Meir Roth are well know and respected individuals.
And just to add to that, Rav Uri Deutsch personally has and is modeling responsible leadership, such as on RH and YK wearing a mask the entire time, despite personally having antibodies, specifically as a way to encourage people to wear masks (I also heard of several other Rabbonim such as Rav Yosef Zimbal and Rav Moshe Chaim Kahan, who did the same). Halevai all Rabbonim were doing this.

October 01, 2020, 09:17:30 AM
Re: Lakewood covid cases
What is it about pandemics and other crises that just brings all the kooks out of the closet?

October 20, 2020, 01:26:47 PM
Re: Second Wave length
The kind of people who realize about the virus when someone close to them is about to die because of it.
The saddest and most inexplicable thing to me, is that I know several people who actually had a family member die and/or others hospitalized, and they STILL don't take it seriously at all, to the point that one of them (father dies of COVID, brother and sister were hospitalized at the time) was actually hassling me about wearing a mask in shul.... There are none so blind as those who do not wish to see......

October 22, 2020, 10:38:22 AM
Re: Lakewood covid cases
Sent. For those skeptical about whether it even gets noticed, I can tell you that from personal experience these kinds of emails get more attention than you might think.

October 29, 2020, 10:34:41 AM
Re: Lakewood model - did we change the health or the data?
ואיך כאן מקומו להאריך
Well all I can say is that B"H things are much quieter again, for a while there you heard of multiple people a day from your shul, neighborhood, work etc. being sick, now not so much. Thank you Hashem!

October 30, 2020, 09:19:47 AM
Re: Satmar Wedding 7,000 people during covid
Either way i am not here to give you guys food for thought,my only point is that you guys hate chasidim in general!
I've been following this and mostly biting my tongue (and sitting on my keyboard-ouch!), but I just cant.. You do know that the guy whose name is literally on this entire site as well as numerous self and otherwise obviously identified commenters are chasidim right? And they somehow are missing all this hate in their direction?

And i volunteer for a organization that is a big help for covid , helping chasidim and non chasidim from all kind of different neighborhoods , and the hospitalazion rate by non chasidim are much much higher then chasidim b"h
I'm going to give you the perhaps not deserved benefit of the doubt and assume that you werent trying to say that BH there are higher rates of infection by non-chassidim.....

November 23, 2020, 03:00:23 PM
Re: Lakewood covid cases
DW positive. Everyone else negative, for now..
Refuah Shleima!

December 02, 2020, 08:56:32 AM
Re: Lakewood covid cases
An old friend of mine was hospitalized last night. (Young person.)
Refuah Shleima!

January 26, 2021, 09:52:07 AM
Re: Lakewood covid cases
He has one of the new variants and has been hospitalized on oxygen for a few days without improvement.
Refuah shleima!

January 27, 2021, 09:07:41 PM
Re: Lakewood covid cases Well, my family can now join the statistics. DW tested positive. Her punishment for that will be needing to stay home with the kids who don't have antibodies for the duration of quarantine ;-).
February 03, 2021, 08:06:57 PM
Re: Lakewood covid cases
Refuah Sheleima.

Please consider getting her antibody treatment, if she is eligible, or any other available treatment. She should iyH be absolutely fine, but the cases that get bad get bad suddenly R"L, so taking any precautions in advance is not something to blow off.

Kimball offers treatment to certain people - call Bikur Cholim to find out the eligibility parameters.
Looked into that because of your comments. She is not eligible for that (which on the overall is BH I think).

And don't let her get overworked - that means you stay home and watch them kids.
Of course, was in joke font (same as sarcasm font...)

February 04, 2021, 11:26:40 AM
Re: Lakewood covid cases
Obviously we are quarantining. Dr. was quite impressed because he said many men continue to go to shul.

I still think life could have been simpler not knowing. we are careful around vulnerable people regardless since a year ago.
Yeah, but the problem with this disease is that you can easily spread it to someone else who spreads it to someone else etc.  and some of those people are not that careful around vulnerable people. It's one thing when you have no reason to assume you are currently carrying and spreading the virus, but when you know you are positive (or have reason to suspect because of an exposure and can easily clarify with a test), don't you think it is responsible to find out and make sure you are not inadvertently responsible for that?
Don't mean to (again) start the whole "debate" about lockdowns and restrictions vs. עולם כמנהגו נוהג, just a little frustrated as a sister in law of mine who almost certainly has corona (no taste or smell) but is refusing to get tested so as to avoid the other people in her family who have not yet had it needing to quarantine (because by entertaining the fiction that she hasn't tested positive, she and by BIL cans somehow justify in their minds putting others at risk). I just don't get it.....

February 04, 2021, 11:33:14 AM
Re: OxSat When I had (quite an unpleasant case) of corona back in March I checked my blood SAT levels and they were 98. My wife who is currently positive tested them today and they were 97. So I'd say based at least on that anecdotal evidence that there is no predictive value that.
February 04, 2021, 09:52:44 PM
Re: Lakewood covid cases
I just want to interject with my anecdotal input. My father had fever last week, took two covid tests at the beginning of the week, one rapid and one non-rapid but same day. Both negative. Fever was persistent, so he retested Friday. Covid positive.

Obviously he could be in the statistical minority, or his fever was unrelated (highly unlikely), but the one story I know of someone who took the test gave a false negative IMO. (Yes, he seems to be fine, thanks for asking.)
Refuah Shleima!

February 15, 2021, 08:40:11 AM
Re: Lakewood covid cases
Thank you.

I got through it with no fever and no symptoms besides temporary loss of smell and some sniffles. My wife has been in bed practically for 3 days now. And I've been in full mother mode since.

I'm starting to understand the evil of Paroh in Mitzrayim.
I feel your pain. My wife is BH just coming out of it, but she was in bed for two weeks. And Avodas Perech barely begins to describe it.... But BH we all survived ;-)

February 21, 2021, 09:21:56 AM
Re: Frontier kicks off Frum family for 15MO not wearing a mask
Live and learn
Hey @Dan, can you set me up with a Subscribe and Save discount to Dans Deals?  ;D

March 01, 2021, 09:59:36 AM
Re: Ivermectin
Based on global averages, the human male is 5' 9.3".  So a male claiming to be 6' 8" is bogus?

@Something Fishy, can you settle that for us? Theres a lot of doors on a ship in Antarctica that bear an imprint of your head that would seem to prove you're not bogus.... :P

March 03, 2021, 09:13:41 AM
Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products There's a lot of valid points being made, but if I could put in my own two cents... I think if there is general agreement that:

1. There is possible harm that can result from smoking weed especially for younger folk who have not yet developed mature self-control, (irrespective of whether other things such as cigarettes and alcohol present similar or worse risks).

2. Regardless of whether it is THE end all solution, a kol korei can have some effectiveness on some people.

3. There is a limited window in which to try and fight anything, and that is certainly before certain attitudes and trends take root in our community.

Then it would seem to be a valuable thing to try and make the severity and Rabbinic attitude towards this clear to all, what's the downside? Perhaps something similar could and should have been done at other times about other things, but whatever happened in those battles should not determine how one attempts to fight this one, no?

March 16, 2021, 12:48:24 PM
Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products
(Disappointed there's no reference to the בורא עולם in the kk.)
Yes, it should have begun "With the help of He who dwells on high...."

March 16, 2021, 02:23:00 PM
Re: Lakewood Rabbonim Ban Use and Sale of Marijuana and Related Products
The downside is that when you have something else important to say, and you have a chance at it being effective, there are those who aren't listening anymore. In order to be a leader, you need to be an effective communicator. When you put your name on something that isn't effective, it diminishes the effectiveness of your leadership going forward.

(Sorry, I used that word a lot.)
I hear you, but if you are saying (and I'm agreeing BTW) that in general Kol Koreis and bans dont really work for these kinds of things, you're not losing something that was effective in any case. And I don't think anyone is going to have a diminished respect for a leader who turns to them directly, in a more personal setting such as I described,  due to their having signed on a Kol Korei (or two or ten). Yet there is definitely some value in having a clear on the record statement with across the board support stating even what might seem to be the obvious on a communal level.

March 17, 2021, 02:04:09 PM
Re: Ask a Lubavitcher Anything
why does such a term even exist? Given that chasidus and chabad is all about pnimius,  where someone's grandparents ....... shouldn't carry any weight whatsoever
spoken by someone who is obviously not gezhe.....  :P

March 17, 2021, 02:05:17 PM
Re: 1 Or 2 Vaccine Doses For People Who Had COVID?
At this point, why would anyone who previously had Covid-19 take more than a single dose of the vaccine?
The only reason (at least compelling one IMHO) is to have the vaccine documentation for purposes of traveling etc.

March 20, 2021, 10:49:04 PM
Re: Lakewood covid cases
Not everything could and should be in a signed public letter.
That's a bit of a copout. I don't believe that there is a single doctor in town that would have signed off on the weddings that were taking place through the summer and beginning of the winter, had someone asked them. The question is if anyone asked them....

April 09, 2021, 11:22:34 AM
Re: Lakewood covid cases
IDK about the doctors, but many rabbanim participated in them.
Thats a kasha not a terutz.....

April 09, 2021, 11:40:46 AM
Re: Lakewood covid cases
IDK about the doctors, but many rabbanim participated in them.
Also worthwhile to point out, that when the Vaad Rabbanei Corona put out their letter during the uptick in cases, they specifically called out weddings and other simchas as a source of spread.

April 09, 2021, 11:52:35 AM
Re: 1 Or 2 Vaccine Doses For People Who Had COVID? Happy to report I got my second Moderna shot yesterday. Less happy to report that I am experiencing the same basic effects as with my first, i.e. very similar to when I actually had COVID. Unfotunately I cant spend the day in bed because really busy time at work, so just holding on to the fact that it only lasted about 18 hours last time and hopefully this time the same. FWIW I asked the nurse who administered the shot if I was likely to have a reaction again given that I did the first time, and she said if I had with first likely to have again with the second.
Based on educating myself in the way of all true intellectuals (by perusing DDF of course ;-)), I am quite convinced that there is little medical value in my having taken the second shot given that I already had COVID, but I am holding out hope and davening that it will enable me to go to a chasuna in Israel in June.....

April 14, 2021, 11:54:35 AM