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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
And of course non citizens don't have the same rights as citizens,  and its a privilege to come here.  Tell that to the boatloads of Jewish refugees who were sent back to nazi Europe
Not to pick on you specifically, but this point is one that while I understand it somewhat, seems to be a bit stretched. Do you or anyone else really believe that just because someone in todays world is cracking down on Muslims that means theres only a short distance to cracking down on Jews??? Sure, halacha hi beyadua she'esav sonei leyaakov, and persecution of us Jews even in America is possible at any time and for any reason, but I think its a still a big leap to say that someone who is trying to restrict the people and religion that espouse hatred of Western civilization and values, not to mention Jews, might try to come after us by that same token. When Jewish people are committing mass murders in the name of their religion (misguided or not) and are clearly the greatest threat to normal, sane people living peaceful lives, than sure, Trump might make Jewish visits and immigration to America much more restrictive too. But I dont see how that follows automatically at all. You can't say that singling out one religion automatically means the increased liklihood of singling out other religions, if the religion being singled out is different than the rest by (at a minimum) containing within it large and identifiable segments that are liable to start shooting and blowing people up that they dont agree with......

January 29, 2017, 11:04:43 AM
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
To answer your question,  which I now understand may not be pertinent to the actual facts,  Yes,  I really believe that.  That's one of the beautiful things about the USA,  and it can be destroyed.  Rav Moshe speaks about this in several places.
As I wrote, I certainly agree with that and it can happen at any time. I just dont see how this is logically and al pi derech hateva, in any way a precursor to that, since there is no logical or any other kind of leap automatically from Muslims to Jews. Care to explain further?

January 29, 2017, 11:20:36 AM
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Re: Trump banning 7 major Muslim countries citizens entry into the US
Ooooohhh, you're sooooooooo close. See how bad it is to throw people out based on skin color? Now keep going with that line of reasoning......
Ok Ill bite. (This goes as a reply for David Smith too.) It is simply an absolute fact to anyone paying attention the past 17 years or so, to whats gone on in Israel to Lower Manhattan to France to England etc. all throughout the world, that there are a great number of Muslims who believe that their religion requires them to kill and otherwise destroy other people, with Jews and Americans sharing space high up on that list. The estimates of how many Muslims are radicalized in this fashion vary greatly, but everyone agrees there is a not insignificant amount of them, to the point that anyone deciding about admitting a large group of them into their country would be criminally negligent not to take that into account. Either you're a whole lot more close-minded and racist than me to the point that you believe that a similar case can be made based on skin color, or so much more open-minded that all your brains fell out and you truly dont recognize the threat radical Islam poses to you and yours. In either case, I do not see there being any kind of comparison between tough immigration policies to weed out radical Islamists and racist policies, the former is simply common sense while the latter is obviously reprehensible.
This thread somtimes reminds me of what Queen Elizabeth is reputed to have said while opening an insane asylum, "Really you are the sane ones, but we are the majority." I honestly dont get why what Im saying is even at all controversial, and the snide attitude and comments you guys throw out there just reinforces the feeling of the mental disorder that is liberalism and its fierce contagion...... :-\ But I think Ive said enough so Ill leave it here guys, you can have at it  :-X

January 29, 2017, 09:14:19 PM
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Re: Things To Do In Israel Master Thread
Anyone have any recommendations - for a Jeeping company (for a family with young kids - 7 and 5)?
Bentzy is great, can be booked through Israelwithstyle.com.

June 22, 2018, 08:26:30 AM
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Re: Lakewood Forest Fire
That changes nothing about what I wrote.
+1000
You can't really blame kids and teens for acting out when their passions and sensitivities are inflamed, they are by nature too underdeveloped as of yet emotionally and logically to expect them to respond appropriately. That's where the adults, parents and teachers, are meant to step in and guide them. Kids coming out of this episode with the idea that this was the appropriate response to something they don't like, and that maybe it even has the tacit approval of some adults, is the worst possible outcome from a maturation and educational perspective.

April 16, 2019, 12:48:58 PM
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