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Lakewood Luxury Lifestyles The Voice Of Lakewood has been running articles and letters the past few weeks referring to Lakewood as the luxury capital of the Jewish world. In clothing, homes etc. Lakewood is described as being first in the latest and greatest high end trends, with mountains of debt financing this lifestyle. Do you think this is an accurate assessment of today's Lakewood? Could be I don't get around much but it seems to me that it's no more pronounced than other communities I've been to. Maybe it's just the contrast with the old Lakewood? Assuming the issue is for real, is there any REALISTIC solution? Curious to hear what others feel about the issue....
January 27, 2017, 04:52:44 AM
Re: Take Back Lakewood From the Destination Guide thread:

Went into the new The Upper Crust (C&G location) and I must say that their menu is extremely inventive for what Lakewood was used to. Never saw Mahi mahi or snapper on a menu before. Everything looks very appetizing, and the service seems great so far. Lets hope it lives up to the expectations long term...

Whether it is built by BMG or others the fact is that the gashmiyus in Lakewood is unfortunately here to stay......

April 05, 2017, 01:03:54 AM
Re: Rental market implosion in Lakewood- implications
If the buying people are all relying on rentals, which are a dud, then the buying market should slowly grind to a halt.

Maybe I should consider a move to Lakewood, housing in Brooklyn is out of control.

Why buy when u can move to Lakewood and rent a brand new 5 bedroom townhouse for $1600 a month?

May 02, 2017, 09:17:14 AM
Re: Rental market implosion in Lakewood- implications
being unable to pay your mortgage payment can be very effective in getting people to adjust

If everyone acted rationally and was financially responsible 80% of Lakewood would be wearing hand me downs and the Voice Of Lakewood would be a whole lot thinner...

May 03, 2017, 10:49:03 AM
Re: Take Back Lakewood
What a great excuse for establishment folks to remain in power forever.
How can anyone get experience if public service is reserved for the elite few? You can be sure vaad made their fair share  of goofs when they started too.

Just pointing out that the last batch of guys got their experience on our cheshbon, decided they had enough, and left us holding the bag stuck with a state monitor (and yes, they did specifically invite the state to come in, saying that it would bring in needed state aid. It is highly doubtful that the state would have unilaterally come in otherwise). Inzelbuch had his issues, but he was consistently holding things together in a way that while not perfect, worked by and large. Then came the newcomers and everything fell apart. Anything is better than the establishment is what they were saying back then...

How can anyone get experience? How about by proving themselves over many years in a non-elected capacity, effectively advocating for and helping people while interacting with various levels of government and other entities in that capacity. Then they will come in with a proven track record. Did they goof up? How did they deal with that? Were they able to come through in the end? How did their experience reflect on the leadership they will provide in an elected capacity. Or you can try to put someone in with good intentions and little experience and have us be his guinea pig while he learns on the job. No, thanks.

June 05, 2017, 11:44:12 PM
Re: Take Back Lakewood
Complete malarkey.

TT had a very different agenda than the new yungeleit you so despise.

Actually I firmly believe those yungerleit went in with the best of intentions and were oskim bitzorchei tzibbur in every sense. Very different than HH. These guys did not go in with any personal adgendas, they went in want to give of their talents to help the klal. This was just out of their league, and this became more and more evident as time went on. Not much differrent that Township Comittee. Looks fairly simple from the outside until you're in and realize there are literally thousands of moving parts and lots of brick walls due to statute, legal considerations, etc. that can't be made to just go away. I'm sure they thought that a lot of BOE problems were just cultural, unwillingness to make hard choices etc. and they could just do what had to be done and set things right. Then they got in and  found out there was a lot more to the story.

With regard to the state monitor fiasco, I recall there was no opposing viewpoint to TT. The concensus among the BOE was that bringing in the state was the right way to go. I think there were interviews/quotes with some of them in the local publications back then, but haven't pulled up any direct quotes online...

June 06, 2017, 09:47:12 AM
Re: Take Back Lakewood The whole thing leaves me with a sick feeling. There is no excuse for behavior that can lead to Chilul Hashem (though I'm sure much of it was out of desperation) and this is something that should not have been a surprise-many should have seen the handwriting on the wall long ago. However I do think that there is another component here. Not one that excuses bad behavior but nevertheless a factor in the hyper focus on the Jewish community. I'm sure it would come as no surprise to the law enforcement community that there are other ethnicities and minorities that are non Jewish that receive plenty of public benefits while engaged in illegal enterprises, selling drugs and weapons for cash and the like. As far as I know retailers don't sell $200 Air Jordan's for food stamps. But those groups public assistance is untouchable because there is a perception of poverty and it wouldn't make a compelling story and would raise a hue and cry from minority advocates.

Meanwhile, there's a perception that the Jews are all rolling in money ( unfortunately partially due to many of us ignoring the admonition of chazal "Lama  Tisro'u) so it's more palatable politically to go after them than other groups. The $450000 homes feed in to this narrative despite the fact that many living in such homes have large families and are truly struggling. I think it's outrageous that law enforcement is trying to paint a picture of an entire community that is rolling in it and padding their pockets with cash from programs when it's is a very very small minority who are really well off and taking programs.. Does not justify people abusing programs whatsoever even those who are struggling, but to think that stereotypes about frum Jews are not playing a role here is implausible.

June 27, 2017, 07:08:28 PM
Re: Take Back Lakewood

How is it out of desperation when these people are making the kind of money claimed?  And the amount they accepted in benefits wasn't even that much.  It's much more of an entitlement mentality than desperation.

Was not referring to these people. Was referring to the insinuation that these people are representative of an entire community.
" it's outrageous that law enforcement is trying to paint a picture of an entire community that is rolling in it and padding their pockets with cash from programs when it's is a very very small minority who are really well off and taking programs"

June 27, 2017, 08:50:22 PM
Re: Is long Payos Mutar ? And a Cohen gadol was not allowed to wear tzitzis or a borsalino. What does that have to do with us? The
March 29, 2019, 12:01:38 PM
Re: Rabbi Or Mr?
Hit it on the nail. For some reason I'm Rabbi to everyone in Lakewood. Though according to @Denverite's guidelines, I qualify.  :P

In Lakewood it’s “Rabbi Goldberg cleanup  in Aisle 6”.

March 29, 2019, 05:24:54 PM