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Re: Public letter I think the intention was to imply that the goal is not to get up on a pedestal and preach torah, but rather to transmit torah faithfully to the students in a way they can process properly. Which is a well-supported concept.

Then he uses that starting point to support other ideas.

October 07, 2016, 10:18:27 AM
Re: Jokes Master Thread - Hello! Gordon's pizza?
- No sir it's Google's pizza.
- So it's a wrong number? Sorry
- No sir, Google bought it.
- OK. Take my order please.
- Well sir, you want the usual?
- The usual? You know me?
- According to our caller ID data sheet, in the last 12 times, you ordered pizza with cheeses, sausage, thick crust.
- OK! This is it ...
- May I suggest to you this time ricotta, arugula with dry tomato?
- What? I hate vegetables.
- Your cholesterol is not good, sir.
- How do you know?
- We crossed the number of your fixed line with your name, through the subscriber's guide.  We have the result of your blood tests for the last 7 years.
- Okay, but I do not want this pizza!,  I already take medicine ...
-Excuse me, but you have not taken the  medicine regularly, from our commercial database, 4 months ago, you only purchased a box with 30 cholesterol tablets at Drugsale Network.
- I bought more from another drugstore.
- It's not showing on your credit card statement.
- I paid in cash.
- But you did not withdraw that much cash according to your bank statement.
- I have have other source of cash.
- This is not showing as per your last Tax form unless you bought them from undeclared income source.
- I'm sorry, sir, we use such information only with the intention of helping you.
- Enough! I'm sick of google, facebook, twitter, WhatsApp. I'm going to an Island without internet, cable TV, where there is no cell phone line and no one to watch me or spy on me
- I understand sir but you need to renew your passport first as it has expired 6 weeks ago

June 21, 2017, 01:38:17 PM
Re: Please (Make and) Post your Kiddush Hashem-Honesty Story Don't know if this counts, but...was on a trip to Wahington DC with a friend, and came across a wad of bills on the floor in a grocery store. $100 bills. 9 of them. I went to the counter and asked loudly if anyone had lost, or heard of someone losing a large sum of money. One women started shaking her head no, then patted her pockets and her eyes went wide in shock. She said, "Yes, I had a bunch of money here and it's gone!"

I asked her how much it was, and she thought for a minute and then said, "$900." Gave it to her, continued on my vacation.

July 06, 2017, 07:03:10 PM
Re: "One Of Us"
How could it not be?


Is there any doubt that if I made a movie about nazis that it would be biased and skewed? Watch the video of her talking about the extermination of chasidim, how she looks amused about how it was because they were so "loud and proud."

October 25, 2017, 03:01:21 PM
Re: Interesting Articles... Again, I wasn't taking issue with a lack of depth, or even a lack of accuracy...but we can read the articles and disagree on the tone.
April 03, 2018, 09:34:57 PM
Re: BitCoin Master Thread Most currencies are at least tied to a country's overall economic performance.   
May 02, 2018, 01:27:13 PM
Re: Public letter Absolutely.
June 27, 2018, 03:19:43 PM
Re: Deal REQUEST practical dinette table and chairs not tempered glass Craigslist. You have to shop around a bit, but you can find some really nice tables there still in decent shape for under $1k. Original retail for over $7k, for one table I bought.
August 06, 2018, 06:16:18 PM
Re: Best way to transfer money to a kid in Israel without sending cash? Ideas? Charles schwab has a checking account that I believe not only has no fees, but also reimburses ATM fees. Online bank.

Oh, and I think they'll even mail the debit card to israel, if necessary.

September 17, 2018, 10:22:30 PM
Re: Davening jacket? Or just get a black suit from Jos. a. bank for $85, and separate them into a davening jacket and nice black dress pants.
January 31, 2019, 06:22:18 PM
Re: Amazon Buttoned down shirt too tight for tefillin I think she'd say that Amazon is an evil corporate entity that makes shirts too tight to hide a suicide vest underneath.
February 15, 2019, 01:57:21 PM
Re: Why do so many people still support the Mir? OK, I usually don't feed the trolls, but I feel without someone giving at least a bit of an answer, it will look like the OP is right.

Disclaimer - OP clearly has a lot of bitterness and anger, and nothing I write can answer or change any of that. I'm sorry for whatever made you feel that way.

First of all, and most of all - hakaras hatov. It may have changed, but the Mir is still the same yeshiva, and those of us who gained from it, owe the yeshiva a tremendous debt of gratitude that no money can ever repay. We also donate because we want to give back, we want to allow other talmidim to have the opportunity of yeshivas Mir - in whatever iteration it currently is.

So - I was in Mir back in R' Nosson Tzvi's days, and while he was alive, changes were made - some I was happy about, others I had more trouble understanding. I spoke to my rebbe at the time, and was able to better understand.

If I was at the point I was 20 years ago, applying to the Mir today, I would probably not get in.

However, the fact remains that the Mir has always been a yeshiva where things are more open, and people can grow at their own pace, from where they are, in their own way. Those of us who were around 15-20 years ago saw the changes when too many people took advantage of that, and the Mir started becoming a place where good bochurim didn't want to go. And so some changes HAD to be made, or the Mir and its legacy would be lost forever - because while they could care less about "top" bochurim, if the good bochurim aren't going there, no one else wants to go either, and the Mire would have lost its ability to give over what it does.

So they adapted, and brought a bit more oversight, but also more warmth. They made changes as needed, and with it more connection with rabbeim. If you're someone who wants to build a real connection with a rebbe, the Mir is unparalleled. The rabbeim will stay in touch with you, and will guide you through life years and years later, regardless of the size of your donations.

If you're looking for a rebbe who will treat you like a child and pretend there's a deep connection when you haven't invested a drop of effort into it, the Mir probably isn't for you.

Finally, despite the fact that the Mir is no longer as opened-doored as it was 20 years ago, it is still, without a doubt, the most diverse of all the mainstream yeshivish yeshivas.

April 08, 2019, 10:36:55 PM
Re: Why do so many people still support the Mir? OK, that's exactly my point.

I'll go with R' Elefant, since I know that situation best. As one friend of mine said, "he has a shiur of 80 guys, but he treats every one like a ben yachid."

Any talmid who wants a connection and puts in the effort, gets one. The ones that don't want, or feel it isn't worth waiting in line by night seder to talk to him, or make an appointment to go to his house to talk to him...don't really want a connection.

April 08, 2019, 11:44:49 PM
Re: Lose Your Hechsher In Lakewood If You Fly An Israeli Flag? LOL.

BUt on the point of what kashrus polices or doesn't...I think it's a question of degree - I've heard people say the hashgacha is on the food, and they have no right to interfere with any other aspect.

On the other hand, I can see the perspective that a rabbi has to feel comfortable with the establishment - I would expect a reliable hashgacha to pull their hechsher if there were belly dancers at a restaurant.

Not equating that with the israeli flag at all - just saying that it's not all or nothing, there needs to be nuance.

May 10, 2019, 02:39:03 PM
Re: Jokes Master Thread A big city lawyer went duck hunting in rural New Jersey. He shot a bird, but it fell into farmer's field on the other side of a fence.                   

As the lawyer climbed over the fence, an elderly farmer drove up on his tractor and asked him what he was doing.         

The litigator responded, "I shot a duck and it fell in this field, and now I'm going to retrieve it."       

    The old farmer replied, "This is my property, and you are not coming over here."     

The indignant lawyer said, "I am one of the best trial attorneys in New York and, if you don't let me get that duck, I'll sue you and take everything you own."                 

The old farmer smiled and said, "Apparently, you don't know how we settle disputes in New Jersey.  We settle small disagreements like this with the 'Three Kick Rule.'"       

The lawyer asked, "What is the 'Three Kick Rule'?"               

The Farmer replied, "Well, because the dispute occurs on my land, I get to go first. I kick you three times and then you kick me three times and so on back and forth until someone gives up."     

The attorney quickly thought about the proposed contest and decided that he could easily take the old codger. He agreed to abide by the local custom.               

The old farmer slowly climbed down from the tractor and walked up to the attorney. His first kick planted the toe of his heavy steel toed work boot into the lawyer's groin and dropped him to his knees!       

His second kick to the midriff sent the lawyer's last meal gushing from his mouth. The lawyer was on all fours when the farmer's third kick to his rear end, sent him face-first into a fresh cow pie.

The lawyer summoned every bit of his will and remaining strength and very slowly managed to get to his feet. Wiping his face with the arm of his jacket, he said, "Okay, you old fart. Now it's my turn."       

The old farmer smiled and said, "Nah, I give up. You can have the duck."

May 27, 2019, 08:06:07 AM
Re: Comments That Crack Me Up!
June 17, 2019, 04:44:09 PM
Re: Interesting Articles...

With one minor caveat at the end, the author makes it sound like this was all racist - rather than, perhaps, the decisions being made based on financial indicators, which may happen to disproportionately correlate with blacks.

For example, in the graph comparing black family income vs. white family income, are they adjusting for whether each "family" has 2 parents? A 1-parent family is going to have significantly lower income for multiple reasons, completely unrelated to race.

Also - $3-4B sounds like a lot to me, and anyone else reading the article - but what percentage of overall sales was that?

Finally, while I'm no expert on this, there's a lot of controversy regarding what impact, if any, the Community Reinvestment Act had on lending to minorities in a risky way, and ultimately the housing crash that may have impacted those same minorities. Articles on this are dividied along usual political lines, but the left-leaning ones I've read use snide lines like, "the CRA didnít force mortgage companies to offer loans [in irresponsible ways]." Well - it kind of did, since it seems (from admittedly brief research) that banks had penalties imposed if they didn't meet certain metrics of lending to minorities. And I somehow doubt that it was simple to explain why they didn't meet those expectations for economically valid reasons.

June 18, 2019, 12:58:41 PM
Re: Interesting Articles... Yeah, this author's tone rises to rabid at some points:

So if you ever find yourself in a predominantly black neighborhood, wondering why everyone seems so poor, know this: Itís largely because white people, possibly even you or your ancestors, stole from them and their ancestors.

When I'm on the subway and a kid is trying to sell a $.25 water bottle for $3 on a summer day, I can buy it or not, I don't say he's trying to steal from me.

June 18, 2019, 01:11:35 PM
Re: Master Thread of Pet Peeves Right, but this isn't the word English, it's the word english.
June 19, 2019, 05:31:08 PM
Re: Jokes Master Thread ***Lying in bed after a very big fight***

wife: *very mad, thinking* he better actually give me a real apology this time.

husband: *thinking* what if his real name is Loopa Schmeltzer and Lipa is just the Chassidish pronunciation.

July 11, 2019, 10:32:36 PM
In public, there has no been a good faith effort to actually work on the length. Sure, if we're talking 4.5 vs. 3, that's fair. But the community isn't even publicly behind that.

Major Rabbanim and Rosh Yeshivas went to Albany to discuss, and although they had originally been assured that the new guidelines would be a joint effort, the state went back on their word.

Overall, the point is that the state can certainly set expectations of what our students should know, there's no reason for them to dictate how we teach it, and how much time we spend on it.

July 12, 2019, 02:37:46 PM
I didn't miss any point and just asked a simple question.

It is great that the Talmud teaches all those different things. Lets just pick a subject, math. Do you believe you can learn as much about math from the Talmud as from a HS math class?

On a high school level of Talmud vs. high school level advanced math - no.


1) It's easier to teach math later on than it is to teach critical thinking and thoughtful analysis. Furthermore, most colleges have college classes that cover both basic high school math as well as more advanced high school math. This is an important point in 2 ways - it shows that many students outside the yeshiva world are entering college without a firm grasp of these concepts, and it also shows that even if one did not get a strong math education prior to college, that need not hold them back.

2) A solid foundation of basic math, including fractions, is more important for most people than the advanced math of high school. I will accept that the problem with this perspective is that a small number of students excel at more advanced math, and without the exposure to it, there's no way for them to know if they have an aptitude for productive and lucrative careers in those fields. While this exposure can come later, I can see the advantage of earlier exposure.

Things like math and reading aren't just a bunch of facts you can gauge on a standardized test. They're skills that need practice.

Skills that need practice require homework, studying, and then you gauge how well the students have acquired those skills. Generally, the accepted way to do so is on a standardized test of some kind, although as a former teacher I can debate that as well.

Recommending more hours of classes despite students demonstrating proficiency in a subject seems like a waste of time.

July 12, 2019, 02:49:57 PM
Re: AN URGENT APPEAL TO THE NY YESHIVA COMMUNITY The question becomes how controlling  they're going to want to be in terms of the subjects taught.

And part of the reason everyone is against this is because it sets a bad precedent of being told not just what students have to know, but also what to teach, and how.

July 22, 2019, 12:54:14 PM
Re: Equifax Data Breach Settlement - Free credit monitoring or $125 cash payment I definitely spent more than 10 hours in the weeks following the data breach - doing online"freaking out" research in terms of possible damage control, whether I was compromised, where my data might be, who might have it, how I could find out, changing passwords....and yeah, that was definitely all due to the breach.

How well could I prove all that? That might be difficult.

What is the ethical question? They don't say you need paid monitoring. They say if you have monitoring you are eligible for 125. end of story. No ethical dilemma here


Aside from anything else, Mother$%^*ers allowed my identity to be stolen. Then sold their stock in the company before letting us know that our identities had been stolen. Exec who sold almost $1M in stock options 2 weeks before announcing the news, was just sentenced to prison for insider trading. He got...wait for it...4 months. Oh, and he had to pay an extra $8k. How do they let them off this easy?!

July 24, 2019, 04:58:35 PM
Re: Equifax Data Breach Settlement - Free credit monitoring or $125 cash payment Because by calling it an ethical question, you're already passing judgement.

And while they offer to pay for costs you've incurred, what about the value of not having had your information stolen - most people would pay thousands for that.

July 25, 2019, 12:37:52 AM
Re: Please (Make and) Post your Kiddush Hashem-Honesty Story Not sure if this counts, since I don't know if they realized I was jewish, but...

Found a Mavic Pro Drone while hiking a few weeks ago. Tried searching how I could track its owner, finally pulled the SD card, used the GPS coordinates from the pictures of a backyard party to pull up the house, then looked up the people who lived there, then looked up their phone numbers and called them, and they knew the owners of the drone, so we were able to return it to them.

They came and picked it up, we left it in our mailbox for them. They actually left us $50, which really wasn't necessary, but they only told us afterwards. Nice of them!

July 26, 2019, 12:43:32 PM
Re: Please (Make and) Post your Kiddush Hashem-Honesty Story I was trying to figure out a way to do that without sounding like I was being arrogant about it, but couldn't figure out a way...
July 26, 2019, 06:22:59 PM
Re: DIY (Do It Yourself Repairs) - Successes and Blunders Don't know if I'd call this DIY, but changing the cartridges on my under-the-sink filter, figured I'd pull the line going in and have it drain into a bucket while I quickly swapped the filters and then screw the line back in.

I VERY seriously underestimated the amount of water that can come out of a 1/8" tube.

August 08, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
Re: DIY (Do It Yourself Repairs) - Successes and Blunders I can stock some, but you'll have to make it yourself - I'm too busy listening to Ben Shapiro.

Wait, which thread is this?

August 08, 2019, 11:23:29 PM
Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE OK, got the Kyocera...and let me put it this way - if I were to write a review, not sure if it would belong here or in the "jokes" thread. The first nd most obvious thing is the predictive text - in what world does typing in 2-6-3 have the phone come up with "cod" as being more likely than "and?" And if there's a 1-letter word that I can get by typing the "2" key...yup, you got it, the most likely guess by the Kyocera is the word..."b"!
October 02, 2019, 08:58:55 PM
Re: Trader Joe's Master Thread

CRC recommended

+1 but -1.

The organization is on the CRC's recommended list, but it seems they no longer use the OV symbol, as a number of organizations have started using the same symbol to indicate vegetarian status.

October 31, 2019, 11:03:09 PM
Re: Prayers for my father Sent a PM (personal message), but just in case you missed it - I work in healthcare, and my knowledge and experience might be helpful for him. Feel free to reach out through this website, or you can use my personal contact info I sent via PM.
November 03, 2019, 06:44:02 PM
Re: PC friday question of the day. Hence the recommendation to not hit. Because the message you're giving is not, "you did something wrong, and are therefore receiving a consequence."

It's, "I'm angry, and what you do when you're angry is hit people. As long as you're bigger and stronger than them. Oh, and also, this is your template of how you should view the world and all authority figures, including God."

November 09, 2019, 08:37:09 PM
Re: Prayers for my father I'm sure you're busy with everything going on, but when you have a chance, please let us know how you/your dad is doing.
November 11, 2019, 11:34:27 AM
Re: PC friday question of the day.
Sorry for not waiting until Friday but this one just could not wait.
Is this what Jews believe?

I don't.

But - in a Venn diagram showing trum haters and jew haters, there is going to be significant overlap.

December 12, 2019, 10:58:09 AM
Re: Wish list for socialist give away? Basically, on a personal charity level, we're commanded to give someone what he needs to feel like he's not lacking - even if, in his situation, he needs a horse and rider announcing him.
March 21, 2020, 10:43:29 PM
Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19? I think CV meant, "it's not GOOD news, but at least it's "better news."
March 26, 2020, 05:47:55 PM
Re: Time to buy a gun? I compromised, got a small crossbow.
April 21, 2020, 11:20:02 AM
Re: Are you afraid every time a black man walks by you?
Not sure. That is a hotspot for anti-Semitism.
You are the one that brought up the stereotyping someone based on how they dress. Now when your own words are turned against you it is a different story.

When a particular mode of dress is favored by gangsters, and individuals who are more likely to commit violent crimes, then it's not stereotyping to be concerned.

For example - even in their leisure time, most doctors I've seen (regardless of skin color) aren't dressed in clothing where you're not sure if they might be in a gang.

"Stereotypical" jewish clothing is not, as far as I know, associated with violent crime.

June 01, 2020, 07:09:40 PM
Re: Life Hacks, Post Your Favorites!, even for meds that are covered. My insurance can have a $15 copay, but coupon from GoodRX gets me the medication for $7.
June 10, 2020, 03:01:42 PM
Re: Dating Stories Going to hotel lobbies, I've had people ask us if we're staying the night, it's a beautiful hotel! I've had a waitress wink at me while the girl stepped away and tell me, "good luck!" (Maybe she just meant "if it's bashert"?)
June 11, 2020, 10:58:32 PM
Re: Dating Stories Dropping the girl off at the end of the date, I had a long drive home and didn't want to go off-route to find a bathroom (I'm an expert at easily getting lost).

I smiled and said, "Thank you very much, I had a really good time! Um, is it OK if I use your bathroom?"

Her: You can use the driveway if you want.


Me: Are you serious?

Her: Sure, you don't have to park on the street, you can pull into the driveway!

June 12, 2020, 03:21:11 PM
Re: Where do you get your news? How about adding "the onion," since it's all pretty ridiculous these days anyway?
June 15, 2020, 12:54:07 PM
Re: DDFer positive peer review/feedback As I already said, I wasn't aware of how quickly it can fluctuate (within a few hours). My past dealings with other members and GCs involved a set price offered and paid.

It's clear that many members have dealt with you and can vouch for your honesty. Which is kind of the point of this thread.

My apologies.

June 28, 2020, 11:27:19 AM
Re: DDFer positive peer review/feedback Based on the feedback here, I went through with the transaction. Everything went smoothly.


June 29, 2020, 07:02:51 AM
Re: Dan's Inbox: Where Fun Happens!
Just realized there's another email address where people have been emailing for years. Took a brief peek. Yikes.

You should make this into an ebook and sell it.

July 01, 2020, 08:03:27 PM
Re: Jokes Master Thread הבאתי עוגיות לבית הכנסת. מישהו שהתפלל שם שאל אותי אם הם מזונות. אמרתי חלילה, הם מאשתי
July 02, 2020, 05:01:11 PM
Re: Dating Stories

The real question is why she was holding him in the first place.

July 09, 2020, 12:23:30 PM
Re: ElAl being bought by a yeshiva student? And...Centers Health Care has a new slogan! "We can heal anyone, we even healed El Al!"
July 12, 2020, 09:55:12 PM
Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread the flag and the moon orbiting the moon. But they can't be referring to the flag because that's too obvious, why would it take 10 minutes to figure out, unless you're a racist?
July 17, 2020, 03:04:16 PM