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Re: Car Lease Master Thread
CMIIW but I believe that this is not true. There is interest if you put in the payments

I am not sure why, but it doesn't work that way. When they advertise with money down on a 36 month least, divide the money down by 36, add to monthly payment, and that's what youll pay per month with nothing down. Most places will even let you roll in DMV feed and insurance waiver.

For some reason, interest has no effect on this.

January 20, 2018, 07:20:57 PM
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
I do think they are well compensated considering they only work 2/3 of the year

OH REALLY?!?

I feel bad for your kids teachers!

I assume we are talking about the main home-room morning teacher/ Rebbi. You are obviously not in any position of understanding the job of a teacher.

You try sitting in a classroom with 30 kids every day. It doesn't matter what age. You try having the patience dealing with 30 different, and some challenging, personalities for hours a day. You try teaching material in an interesting way and grabbing the attention of each student in the classroom, while every single word you say is weighed and measured and you are held accountable. One second of lost temper can cost them their job.

Most good teachers/ Rabeim go through extensive training just for the classroom management part of teaching. Many of our fine teachers/ Rabeim go home after school and plotz from exhaustion.

Then, when they go home, they are not done. There is hours of preparation of the materiel. A small slip-up in class can cause a teacher a lot of trouble. Everything has to be 100% accurate. Then there's typing sheets, grading papers, dealing with parents on a nightly basis. Yes, in a classroom of 30, most teachers will spend hours upon hours with parents weekly. Then there's discussing issues with principals etc. A teacher who leaves their classroom at 1, will usually not get home until 3.

Maybe drive by your children's teacher's house and see when their lights go off at night. They are on call weekends too. Rabeim don't even have Sundays off. Not one day to "just catch up" on things.

Then there are meetings, training, networking, etc. which happen out of the class time.

Teaching is not for everyone. But as you and some others show in their posts, it is a thankless job. Teachers are professional as are lawyers and doctors. The only difference is, teachers have less free time and still can't pay their bills.

And btw, it is pretty  disgusting how are system is set up. Rabeim and Mechanchos are on completely different pay scales. In many ways, it is harder for for the women. They have to still take care of their house and children like every mother, and still hold out the same responsibilities as the Rabeim. Why do they get paid 1/4 what the Rabeim get. They also do not share the same benefits. In any other society, the women would get together and take action..

January 31, 2018, 05:29:17 PM
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
Look. I'm really not trying to get into an argument here that teachers are or aren't leshem shamayim. But the fact is that many come out way ahead financially while working much less hours and fewer days than in a job in the business world.

Plus many of these yeshivas and BYs don't require much in the qualifications department. So it can often be easier to get a Morah job than something else.

Really?!? A not-good Morah lasts maybe one year in today's day and age. Schools have a very hard time finding qualified Morahs to fill positions. Ask any principal. Low-supply, but still embarrassing pay.

They come out way ahead?!? You obviously don't understand the life of those in k'lei Kodesh. Get to know some of them better and get to know how well they are doing financially. Some are making it fine. Many, if not most, struggle horribly.


January 31, 2018, 10:29:55 PM
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
Was it being served? I assume the mashgiach is supposed to check to make sure all chometz is locked up, so it does sound like the fault lies with the vaad. If it wasn't served it wouldnt seem to be as egregious as some make it sound.

If it wasn't served, it wouldn't be a story. All chometz is included in mechira, whether locked up or not.

If it wasn't served, or at least almost served, there would be no cameras going up

April 24, 2018, 02:04:56 PM
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread The place by Stop and Shop on Burnside is cheapest with largest selection. The frum place on Central is also reasonable.
May 02, 2018, 11:43:39 AM
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
Are there any shuls in the area that do slichos at like 10 or 11pm?

BTW, Selichos should not be said before around 12:48 a.m.(chatzos)  on any night, especially Motzei Shabbos. Unless there are extenuating circumstances, this practice does not conform with Halacha.

September 19, 2019, 10:38:57 PM
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
They also support the community through chesed and sponsorship.

The biggest Chessed would be to lower their prices! Forcing us to pay money so they can support the community is Sanders style.

March 05, 2020, 11:42:18 PM
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Re: Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Master Thread
Again ordinarily I could care less about what Yenem is doing but to advocate against a clear precedent established by 99% of the Rabbis and the leading doctors and you can potentially kill people - I donít understand the need to find loopholes and argue. We are talking about people dying - how is that not the end of the conversation?

Do you think Rabbi finer doesnít want to daven with a minyan? Rabbi Perr? Rabbi Jeager? Rabbi Brown? Our utmost respected and revered Roshei Yeshivas the ones we put our childrenís education in their hands, but they give a ruling based on medical experts that could potentially save lives and we all know better?

I am perplexed.

You are perplexed because you are so one-sided, you keep on repeating the same misinformation.

This is a worldwide issue, not a local one. At least 90% of the Rabinim with consultation with Health Experts feel there is nothing wrong with these minyanim. That is also the opinion of Dr. Fauci and his team of the top doctors in the the world.

True, there are very great Rabbis on the other side. But they are the minority. You must follow your Rabbi and not belittle those who don't agree with you. The Rabbis you mentioned are not belittling those who disagree with them.

If you saw are privy to see the letters and other communication from our local health experts to our Rabbis, you would be quite depressed. I saw these communications and understand based of that information why a Rabbi would prohibit minyanim. But according to these health experts, we must remain in quaranteen until a vaccine is developed and a full study is concluded. That means we will be home and society should be closed for another year and a half.

Ask your Rabbi to show you the communications they are getting their information from.

Most health officials in the world, including Trumps team are not so pessimistic. Other communities and their Rabinim are getting their advice from other experts. For your sanity, I would advise you to do the same. When I first saw some of the local communications, I was very down. Then I started to do some more research and became much more optimistic.

In addition, many things we do in life have a risk factor. Driving a car,, flying in an airplane,, going on a roller coaster, etc.. But when statistics hit a certain level, there is a concept of shomer pesayim which plays a big roll in Halacha. That was the original heter to smoke back in the day according to Reb Moahe Feinstein ztl. (And as an aside, it is more dangerous to smoke or vape than it is to daven with a minyan, and i didn't see any letters by our leaders banning smoking.) A Rabbi has a right to decide when we reach that level and make halachic decisions.

But as I already said, even the prohibiters agree there is nothing dangerous davening with a minyan keeping all lawful guidelines. They want to make extra gezeiros in addition to those required by law. That is an opinion which 90% of the Rabbis worldwide and here in America disagree with. Let people follow their own Rabbi. That is the right thing for each person to do.

April 28, 2020, 11:48:09 AM
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic)
Bottom line is, what did the majority of the rabbanim in the community hold? If the majority held that it is forbidden to  make any sort of outdoor minyan, then that is what all the other rabbanim need to agree with because of Achrei rabim lehatos. That is probably what that letter was referring to. Rabbonim who were disregarding the Rov (majority) and telling their congregants (or random people that heard about their lenient view and asked him) to daven with a minyan.

That is total am haratzos my friend. That is not how Halacha works. And if it would work that way, then YIW is going to have to allow minyonim, because most shuls sent out, or will send out that email. But it doesn't work that way.

May 08, 2020, 03:02:00 PM
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Re: 5 Towns/Rockaway Rabbonim Ban All Minyanim Due To COVID-19 (Split Topic)
Or the Rabbanim they feel like have a better understanding of the gravity of the situation. Some of us may have felt the need to switch Rabbanim to our shailahs to based on questionable action that their usual rabbis took over the past couple of months.

If you switch your Rov when you don't agree with him, he was never really your Rov and you will never have a Rov. Al s'mol shehoo yemin...

May 08, 2020, 05:01:39 PM
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