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Re: Take Back Lakewood
Slightly long post/rant. Sorry, but I am really frustrated.
No one seems to be talking about the individual homeowners who are being held to ridiculous ordinances. It seems that we are paying the price for the backlash against  overbuilding.
First, we are told that you must add sidewalks on any addition, etc. Isn't that the townships job? Don't we pay enough taxes?!
Now, the latest rules demand that any job over a certain size requires you to repave the entire street regardless of whether or not you dug it up!
The builder has complained that it is increasingly difficult to work with the township engineers. They are unpredictable and not talkable!
END RANT!
I agree. I have a friend who is trying to build a house, they are being held to impossible standards. The zoning and planning boards are showing how tough they are by making life difficult for individuals trying to build a single home on their property while continuing to let the developers push major variances through

March 01, 2017, 03:22:21 PM
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Re: Stuck In Paris- Help needed As someone who freely traveled Italy during Bein HaZmanim, as well as long stop overs is Madrid, Barcelona, and Zurich, I'll say that most 21 year olds can manage on their own. That having been said, ending up somewhere with 0 prep time that doesn't speak English as a first language could be difficult, especially without a laptop or tablet. When I got rerouted unexpectedly through Frankfurt on my way back from Israel once, even though I had a few hours where I technically could have explored, I didn't want to do it without having looked into any info about the area, transportation etc.

I also sympathize with people that feel Paris is particularly dangerous for Jews (though I personally don't agree with that).

April 27, 2017, 08:52:20 AM
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Re: Take Back Lakewood The whole thing leaves me with a sick feeling. There is no excuse for behavior that can lead to Chilul Hashem (though I'm sure much of it was out of desperation) and this is something that should not have been a surprise-many should have seen the handwriting on the wall long ago. However I do think that there is another component here. Not one that excuses bad behavior but nevertheless a factor in the hyper focus on the Jewish community. I'm sure it would come as no surprise to the law enforcement community that there are other ethnicities and minorities that are non Jewish that receive plenty of public benefits while engaged in illegal enterprises, selling drugs and weapons for cash and the like. As far as I know retailers don't sell $200 Air Jordan's for food stamps. But those groups public assistance is untouchable because there is a perception of poverty and it wouldn't make a compelling story and would raise a hue and cry from minority advocates.

Meanwhile, there's a perception that the Jews are all rolling in money ( unfortunately partially due to many of us ignoring the admonition of chazal "Lama  Tisro'u) so it's more palatable politically to go after them than other groups. The $450000 homes feed in to this narrative despite the fact that many living in such homes have large families and are truly struggling. I think it's outrageous that law enforcement is trying to paint a picture of an entire community that is rolling in it and padding their pockets with cash from programs when it's is a very very small minority who are really well off and taking programs.. Does not justify people abusing programs whatsoever even those who are struggling, but to think that stereotypes about frum Jews are not playing a role here is implausible.

June 27, 2017, 07:08:28 PM
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Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread My research shows that Americans hate Jews just as much as the poles and Germans.

Read through the internet comments posted annonmously throughout the internet, by Americans, on any content related to Jews....

June 27, 2017, 08:13:33 PM
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Re: Take Back Lakewood
-1000

How is it out of desperation when these people are making the kind of money claimed?  And the amount they accepted in benefits wasn't even that much.  It's much more of an entitlement mentality than desperation.

Was not referring to these people. Was referring to the insinuation that these people are representative of an entire community.
" it's outrageous that law enforcement is trying to paint a picture of an entire community that is rolling in it and padding their pockets with cash from programs when it's is a very very small minority who are really well off and taking programs"

June 27, 2017, 08:50:22 PM
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Re: Take Back Lakewood
That's already built into the federal poverty line because it increases for each member of the houshold.
Yet they speak about someone living in a 15 year old townhouse currenly assessed at 400k like they are in the lap of luxury

June 27, 2017, 09:11:51 PM
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
http://www.app.com/story/news/investigations/watchdog/2017/06/27/lakewood-raids-send-some-residents-scrambling/432655001
Looks like at least some people woke up
oy! what a massive painful chillul hashem...

June 27, 2017, 09:51:57 PM
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
Not sure what you are saying... are you saying you don't think this is happening? The stats in the App article are evidence that this is happening. The median income in lakewood is 1/3rd that of a neighboring town with similar property values. Which means they are reporting much less income than the neighboring town while living in the same kinds of houses. It is pretty clear that this is happening on a large scale. No other way to explain it. Folks living in houses valued over 500k and are signed up for benefits designed for the destitute. I just thought they were acting legally (not addressing whether or not it is morally reprehensible). I guess we'll find out how they fare in court but seems like no.
Did you ever take into consideration that none of the people living in those houses, or a very small percentage, actually own the houses in their own names and ot could be parents or siblings who own them. So they may actually be destitute and qualify for benefits while living in the same houses as the neighboring town.

June 28, 2017, 10:34:43 AM
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
BS. They benefited illegally from Medicaid. Lets just say that medicaid had to pay for Insurance $10k per year. THIS is what they benefited illegally. Why the hell should they be charged with what the Hospital costed the Insurance company.  The Insurance policy to itself was fine. Maybe they should be charged with what the mother cooked for supper? Since its because of the medicaid that she was able to be taken care of in the Hospital, and because of the Hospital she was able to return home early, so she has to pay for everything she was able to do for the time she was home because of the Hospitals care??

I don't remember all the details but someone I know who was involved in a much smaller case, had to pay a fine plus the premiums for continuing on medicaid. He didn't have to pay actual benefits. Although in the vast majority of cases, premiums exceed benefits, unless there was a hospitalization  (which I guess is common for women in their 20's and 30's).

In that case there was no FBI or anything. I think it was just the programs' agencies themselves. It was in New York.

June 28, 2017, 11:56:47 AM
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ

Why is cashing out a refi not income? Why is having medicaid paying a bill for you illegitimately not a benefit?
a refi is a loan that you have to payback eventually
Medicaid is just paying the insurance, had you paid for the insurance the bill would be covered by said insurance. In effect the FBI is "double billing"

June 28, 2017, 12:52:23 PM
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