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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Just came across this: https://www.kosharot.co.il/index2.php?id=281&lang=HEB#B

So it satisfies you to have someone claim that they are a-political and know what they are saying, you now have a list of sorts.

I find it interesting that browsing through the website I couldn't find any names of Rabbonim that are responsible for this site.
I also find it funny that they ahve certain ones on their list while leaving out other ones.

July 25, 2019, 03:20:33 PM
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
I also find it funny that they ahve certain ones on their list while leaving out other ones.

That's to be expected. However I finally found a link on their website to an article that indicates who they are: https://www.inn.co.il/Besheva/Article.aspx/7594

July 25, 2019, 03:49:26 PM
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
The reality is that for better or worse it will not be the source to find out about charedi kashrus standards.


What are "Charedi Kashrus Standards"?

Are all the people that accept the standards of the WAJ despite the evidence and indications that it might not be up to par with what they presumably or are publicly willing to admit that they accept defined as "Charedi"?

July 25, 2019, 04:33:51 PM
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
What are "Charedi Kashrus Standards"?

Are all the people that accept the standards of the WAJ despite the evidence and indications that it might not be up to par with what they presumably or are publicly willing to admit that they accept defined as "Charedi"?
THose who accept rabbanut accept rabbanut. Those who are busy with trusting the mashgiach are convincing themselves or following the advice of those who believe that this is ensuring that the ingredients are all meeting "chareidi standards". This is whether or not they personally identify as chareidi.

July 25, 2019, 05:02:34 PM
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Thanks for all the responses about places to eat.
How far is the Prima Palace from WAJ? Are there any standalone restaurants that have shabb meals in the area?

Google maps puts it at a 20 minute walk.

July 25, 2019, 07:01:50 PM
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Thanks for all the responses about places to eat.
How far is the Prima Palace from WAJ? Are there any standalone restaurants that have shabb meals in the area?
Litov is Bedatz
Good to know that option exists. Website is half-baked. https://litovhotel.co.il/#
They seem to offer meals too

July 26, 2019, 09:10:47 AM
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Re: Israel Hotels Master Thread i actually stayed there once in middle of the week wasn't in there restaurant the room was nothing to write home about.about a year ago i checked and they  that they do shabbos meals for non guests
September 20, 2019, 10:08:26 AM
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Anyone know where you can light shabbos candles when staying at WAJ but not eating in the restaurant?
Any clue if you're allowed to use a crockpot in your room?
Allowed?
Don't ask and don't tell. Keep the DND on.

September 23, 2019, 04:51:36 PM
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Allowed?
Don't ask and don't tell. Keep the DND on.
Like every other hotel. Maybe lightning candles is prohibited, officially, but slow cooking, never saw a rule prohibiting.

September 23, 2019, 05:05:22 PM
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem They set up candle lighting in the lobby IIRC.
September 23, 2019, 05:18:49 PM
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
They set up candle lighting in the lobby IIRC.
They do

October 01, 2019, 07:45:34 PM
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Re: ELAL Questions Master Thread
Flying El Al 787 from JFK to TLV in Premium Economy. Anyone know if Row 20 (last row in PE) is close to regular economy or is there a space in between? What seats would you suggest reserving? (2 people)
There is a wall between 20 and 21

Row 17 has slightly more space but you're right behind the bathroom.

October 04, 2019, 10:00:55 AM
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Re: ELAL Questions Master Thread
Flying El Al 787 from JFK to TLV in Premium Economy. Anyone know if Row 20 (last row in PE) is close to regular economy or is there a space in between? What seats would you suggest reserving? (2 people)
20 has the benefit that you can tilt your seat without bothering anyone behind you.

October 04, 2019, 10:25:26 AM
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Re: ELAL Questions Master Thread
Thanks. Any clue if the wall behind row 20 impact the recline?
Doesn't restrict recline

October 06, 2019, 09:02:43 AM
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Re: Israel Hotels Master Thread
Are there any mehadrin level restaurants near Ritz Herziliya
yes: Pappagayo, lechem basar and cafe cafe

October 10, 2019, 12:10:39 PM
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Re: Israel Hotels Master Thread
Thanks. Any shuls or minyanim during the week?
There was a guy in the lobby that filled us in on that info unfortunately I donít remember details but there is

October 11, 2019, 01:02:23 AM
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Re: Booking El Al with Qantas - master thread
I found two open business tickets for a date in December on El Al classic reward search function. I dont see it on Quantas and called Qauntas and they dont see them either. Any way to go about this?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/bad-el-als-blocking-business-class-award-space-partner-airlines/

October 25, 2019, 01:56:00 PM
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Re: Elal airlines
thanks! Did you have an experience like this?

Yes.

October 28, 2019, 03:00:42 PM
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
What time does breakfast end in WAJ?
What kind of breakfast do they serve on Shabbos morning?

I believe 10:30 or 11.

Shabbos morning there was herring, salads (all types), lasagna, a few different Quiche trays and Kugel - in addition to the usual breads, bakery goods and hot water/coffee.

October 29, 2019, 02:24:30 PM
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Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
What time does breakfast end in WAJ?
What kind of breakfast do they serve on Shabbos morning?
Shabbos breakfast is pretty weak.

October 29, 2019, 02:25:42 PM
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Re: Ritz-Carlton Herzliya (AKA Ritzaliya) Master Thread
How was the hotel in general?

I thought it was very nice.  It's kind of in the middle of nowhere so I'd say you really need a car there which I don't think you need at the Hilton or Sheraton in Tel Aviv.  The service was solid and I loved the Shabbat dinner in the  beautiful Sukkah (we were there Chol HaMoed).  The food was excellent.  Same quality as the WAJ but way more food that my family actually liked (we were at the WAJ the Shabbat before so had a direct comparison). We preferred that it was buffet and just had so many choices.  Every single dish I tasted was excellent and the desserts were some of the best of my life.  Even the pool bar food was just excellent, way better than normal snack shop stuff like other hotels (my DH and I agreed that the Chicken Caesar there is one of the best we've ever had).  I didn't go to breakfast because it wasn't included and even with my gold discount it was around 110NIS so we just got some light breakfast dairy stuff at the supermarket below. The shul was nice and my husband enjoyed it.

The pool was teeny for a hotel that size.  The one thing that I really liked, that didn't really have to do with the hotel per se is that the beach was not crowded at all the whole time we were there, it seemed very family oriented (unlike the crazy beaches in TA) and honestly a lot of the people there were frum families from the Ritz.  It was obviously a frumer crowd at the hotel and beach because it was Sukkot but even the secular Israelis there were all families with kids.  I just felt way more comfortable playing with my kids and building sand castles than in Tel Aviv.  Also, since we did have a car, it was really easy and close to the freeway and to get out for tiyulim, which would have been a huge headache at the beach hotels in Tel Aviv.

At check-in, when I requested the roll-away, they said we were going to have to pay something crazy (I can't remember the exact amount) like maybe $80  PER NIGHT, which was going to be a huge amount (I had the room for 8 nights even though we left it empty for Simchat Torah) to get a rollaway for my 7 yr old.  They told me about it and I even initialed the fee when they gave me the roll-away in one room but for whatever reason it wasn't on my bill at check-out.  If it was on there I was planning to fight it anyway for some service slips they had (turning on a very annoying light on Shabbos, not fixing it when I walked down, etc.) and the fact that we weren't even there some nights, but I didn't need to.  If they had charged me that, along with no breakfast, I would have probably said I would never stay there again but they didn't so I left happy. That fee is something I feel people didn't discuss here and I know other friends have been charged it so I wanted to make sure to bring it up.

If you don't eat at either of those hotels and paying the extra $80 a night for a 3rd person in the room isn't an issue for you, it might be better to be at the Ritz where you have Cafe Cafe Mehadrin dairy and Mehadrin Lechem Basar so close (we went multiple times to and liked both).  They both also had huge Sukkahs which was nice.

We enjoyed it but that's also because I used holdover week certificate and got outsize value out of during Sukkot.  I think it would be a nice weekend getaway if you live in Israel. It can be one of your best possible values for a 50k free night cert and is probably worth 200k Marriott for 5 nights certain times of year.  I'd stay there if the WAJ or Hilton TA were blocked (like Pesach time) but it would be my third choice (others can feel free to disagree).  :)  I love the Hilton breakfast, lounge access for basically free food and drink all day and night, all the restaurants in the hotel and close by and the huge pool at the Hilton.  The rooms are about the same except I usually get a better upgrade at the Hilton and the Hilton allows 3ppl per room as the normal number allowed. 

I hope this helps and gives some useful info that others may not have covered!

November 01, 2019, 05:08:56 PM
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