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saw50st8 TR to Tennessee My 9 year old had been bugging me to fly somewhere for our summer vacation. We usually drive because there are so many places to see near NJ and my kids are all really close in age, so the thought of dragging 4 really little kids on a plane was really not appealing. But at this point, my youngest would already be 4 so I agreed that if we could find cheap flights somewhere, then we could fly. I was playing around on google flights one day and found non stop flights from EWR to TYS for $120/pp. I've been to Tennessee a few times and always wanted to go back to the Smoky Mountains. I logged onto Chase and those flights were slightly more expensive, but I booked them anyway. We got all 6 flights for under 60,000 UR.  My son was so excited when I told him!

Next up was looking for a hotel. I wanted a hotel that was convenient for all the activities and also big enough to have the 6 of us in one room. We chose the Holiday Inn Express in Downtown Gatlinburg. It had a spacious room and when the couch bed was open, there was still plenty of room to walk around.  The room came equipped with a decent size fridge, microwave and my absolute favorite feature - a second sink outside the bathroom! The hotel has a wonderful waterpark with 3 water slides, a heated indoor pool and two bathrooms in the waterpark/pool area. The hotel is also connected to a Holiday Inn Vacation club resort so you can use the facilities there including the other two pools and two hot tubs. In addition, the resort has daily activities that you can join. It's about a block off the main road in downtown Gatlinburg and really convenient to most things you would want to get to. I will say that Gatlinburg itself is everything I think it wrong with touristy places (like Ripleys Believe it or Not and all the other tourist traps) but being even a block off the main, road, we didn't see much of that, except to drive by.

Outside of the Hotel:

Hotel Water Park:

After a short flight, we drove from Knoxville to Gatlinburg. The views are incredible right away. I'm not exactly sure where our GPS took us (or why because the route didn't make much sense), but we ended up driving through the Smoky Mountains and stopped for lunch at a creek where went wading.

Drive to Gatlinburg:


We found a snake in the water:

We drove to our hotel, checked in and then went grocery shopping at Food City, a few miles from the hotel. They had plenty of kosher bread, frozen food (including cheese pierogies!), canned goods and of course junk food. Prices were pretty good too.

After our food run, we had a blast at the water park. My kids could have stayed there for hours, but we put them to bed early to get ready for a long day.

October 09, 2017, 09:08:33 PM
Re: remove delinquent account
addressed to who? no one I can call?
Creditboards would probably have an address. Always better to send a GW letter but can't hurt to call.

November 18, 2018, 09:02:02 PM
Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
Do chain stores buy their private label items thru a distributor too?
Various brokers are involved from what I understand, and they may or may not own the food. C&S had their own private label. So does krasdale, which is a Jewish owned company that does not sell their chametz.
By the way, A small time food broker who buys and sells to both distributors and retailers was in my house on Yom tov. At any given time he owns 100 truckloads of various foods. He's careful to not own chametz, but many of his Israeli colleagues are not. These are not even an official part of the food chain, just operate in the shadows.

April 30, 2019, 10:28:02 AM
Re: Switzerland Master Thread
This is mostly what I've been seeing :(
Don't search like that. You're almost for sure not going to find anything like that. Everything is apartments there. Look for 2 bedroom apartments in the same area. If you use the map view you can see some will even be in the same building or the neighboring building.

May 28, 2019, 08:49:31 AM
Re: NBA Master Thread
NBA 2k19 rates the warriors as better than the bulls

June 14, 2019, 12:05:24 AM
Re: wesson canola oil 128 oz free on Holy Guacamole.

Alright here we go:

(Remember: pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.)

Stuff available for shipping (or sometimes pickup): WARNING: ONLY SOME OF THE CANDY IN THIS MIX IS KOSHER. OTHERS ARE NOT KOSHER

Stuff seemingly only available for delivery or pickup, but depends on your area: (This is OU-D) (This is OU-D and presumably not Pas Yisroel)

Items that can only be delivered using the Shipt delivery option, these do not show a hechsher on the image, so I don't know if they are certified kosher or not. If someone is in a target, you can check if this item has a hechsher:

June 20, 2019, 03:17:10 PM
Re: Misc Credit Card Questions
Anyone with a discover card willing to check when this round of BT offers expires?
On line in my account: Respond by 08/06/19

June 25, 2019, 07:33:02 PM
Re: Marriott Hotels
Is there a way to upgrade a points reservation to a suite in advance?
suite upgrade

July 04, 2019, 02:45:26 PM
Re: We need a dedicated MOD to enforce the rules in GFS and DR!
We need a dedicated MOD to enforce the rules in GFS and DR!

Just make me a Mod and I will just keep deleting the posts. they will get the hang of the rules very fast.


July 10, 2019, 03:31:12 PM
Anyone able to check how many seats are available PHX-JFK on 8/19 on B6? Thanks.
There are currently 76 seats available for purchase on the plane.

July 16, 2019, 10:41:55 AM
Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!) Banning guns, whether some, or all, will definitely help. Will it stop all killings, of course not. However if it will save even some lives, you can't just say it won't work and therefore do nothing. (Obviously guns are sometimes needed for self defense, so a complete ban probably isn't the best idea). Banning high capacity guns and/or ammunition seems logical. The only argument I have heard (and possibly very legitimate), is that we cannot allow the government to ban these because people need to be able to protect themselves from a potential tyrannical government. This argument would be willing to sacrifice potential occasional mass shootings so as to protect this right. This argument needs to be discussed frankly, and decided risk vs benefits.
Banning guns however, is just a band aid. We still need to address the underlying cause of these shootings. In my opinion culture of violence encouraged by Hollywood and videogames is a major cause. Perhaps mental Illness. I'm sure if americans sat down and discussed it seriously, we could come up with more potential causes and try to deal with them. Unfortunately, with all the politics and hyperbole, it doesn't seem like this will happen soon.
One last idea is that many of these people seem to want publicity and fame. Perhaps not showing the picture or name of the perpetrator will help to be a deterrent.

August 06, 2019, 08:32:04 PM
Re: Flight Network put in wrong PAX name Yea, maybe tell them to put a note for airport agent
October 07, 2019, 04:10:40 PM
Re: Amex Closed Accounts
Where do you know that from?
I got the refund on a few cards after being shut down.
Same here.
My DW called on one card, the Rep said nothing doing, She asked for a supervisor who manually issued a refund, Today i noticed that the AF is credited twice..
On a second card the AF is prorated without asking anything.
My DW also asked if she could redeem the cash back that was still pending, the supervisor said that it is already forfeited, However we noticed today that the cash back is posted as a credit on the account...

December 02, 2019, 03:02:48 PM
Re: AA Award Flights
Seeing award availability PVG-HKG-TLV in J, but none available HKG-TLV. The PVG leg is too early for me. There's plenty availability PVG-HKG in Y. Can I book PVG-HKG-TLV and have them switch me to a later flight in Y for the first leg?
Booking how? You should be able to book it like that in the first place

January 03, 2020, 09:15:49 AM
Re: AA Award Flights
Online or OTP. You mean if I call up?
I missed the thread name :)
OTP they should be able to do it.

January 03, 2020, 09:27:30 AM
Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
@CountValentine I think were allowed to open this thread now that this info has come out...
Invalid Tweet ID

They must have forgotten that their rights to do insider trading were recently taken away

March 20, 2020, 08:34:28 AM
Re: Is there any good news in the fight against COVID-19?
Wifes grandfather in 70's and with pre-existing conditions was taken off a ventilator BH.

BH, wishing him a full and speedy recovery. May all those waiting hear such good news.

April 01, 2020, 05:04:24 PM
Re: Unemployment Help
Can someone wikify the process for NY/NJ? Having a difficult time understanding it.
Took a stab at it. Need someone with more info on NJ process to update.

April 24, 2020, 11:23:45 AM
Re: Which US national parks have you been to? Which was your favorite? It really depends how much you like to hike. I could easily spend 3-4 days there just doing different day hikes. If you want other activities, look into white-water rafting, horseback riding, and boat rentals/rides on lakes in the park (assuming they're open this season). As for top hikes, Hidden Lake is a no-brainer as the best short, family-friendly hike, and once you're there at Logan Pass where it leaves from, definitely walk out at least 20-30 minutes on the Highline Trail. This is assuming you can find parking, as in normal years, parking at Logan Pass can be a nightmare unless you get there really early or late in the day.

The Many Glacier area is an absolute must just to see the view from the hotel, and I'd highly recommend the drive to Two Medicine to see the view there as well (the boat ride on the lake is really relaxing). And if you have passports, a leisurely drive up to the Canadian side of the park (Waterton) is really pretty as well.

Another popular short hike (4 miles RT) is Avalanche Lake, though if you have to choose, Hidden is better (shorter, prettier, and almost guaranteed close-up goat sightings). If you're up for one or two longer hikes (8-10 miles RT), the top 5 would be Grinnell Lake (can be knocked down to 7.5 miles RT if you take the boat ride to cut off the beginning of it), Iceberg Lake, Cracker Lake (not as pretty throughout the hike but a jawdropping destination at the end), the full Highline Trail, and Siyeh Pass (my personal favorite, but you can't go wrong with any). And if you really want to push yourselves, I once hiked the 18ish mile Pitamakan-Dawson loop on my birthday as my present to myself, and it was the best hike I've ever done.

As you can tell, I really love this place! You didn't ask about lodging, but that will be one of your most important decisions. Please don't make the mistake of staying outside the park in the big chain hotels on the west side (Whitefish, Columbia Falls, West Glacier). You'll be 60-150 minutes each way (!) from all the best scenery in Glacier and will spend far too much of your valuable time waiting in traffic. Best is if you can find in-park lodging on the east side, ideally Many Glacier, Swiftcurrent, or Rising Sun (and have reasonable expectations of in-park lodging, you're paying for the location). Any more questions, just ask, and hope you love it as much as I do!

May 25, 2020, 01:30:53 PM
Re: Which US national parks have you been to? Which was your favorite? Can lodging be cancelled, even for a fee? Being on the east side for me would make or break the trip, but if you're doing a low-key family-friendly visit, I know people make it work (hence all the hotels on the west side), but it will mean a LOT more car time. If you can't cancel in full, could you get even one night on the east side somehow to reduce the driving?

As for rafting, I love the park so much that I've never done rafting, which is outside of the park (conveniently for you, on the west side). Here are a few companies to look at. I would assume they're all basically the same, running the same water, so double-check online reviews, and then choose whichever has the best times and rates for your schedule:

As for in-park boat excursions and rentals, the info is here, but it looks like they've canceled this season due to Covid:

For short hikes, definitely Hidden Lake (3 miles RT on a boardwalk with not so much elevation gain) and walk out a bit on Highline. Avalance Lake is 4 miles RT and would be #2 if you can't do anything longer. There's also a short hike to Baring Falls and St. Mary Falls that kids may enjoy, but it's a pale substitute for the true beauty of the park.

I'd also look into the Swiftcurrent Pass trail from Many Glacier/Swiftcurrent, NOT to hike up to the pass which is a brutal climb, but the beginning part of it is flat and beautiful and great for kids. Or the beginning of the Grinnell Glacier trail, which again they won't be able to complete, but the beginning is totally flat, walking around stunning lakes, and really beautiful and peaceful.

One other important thing to know about Glacier is that trails there can unpredictably be closed due to bear activity at any time. Also, if you're going early in the summer (i.e. July, which may not seem early to you, but can be early for many feet of snow to melt out), some of the trails may not yet be open for the season if they're still full of dangerous snow and ice. So for every day, have a plan B (and C if possible), and whatever you end up doing, it's all great!

May 25, 2020, 07:05:11 PM
Re: Which US national parks have you been to? Which was your favorite?
Thanks for all the info. I think I can do 1 day Hidden Trail and 1 day rafting. Any recommendations for a 3rd day? Either the west or east side?
On a side note ever been to Sandpoint ID? Worth the drive there?

It would be a crime to go all that way and not at least see Many Glacier, arguably the best scenery in the entire park, so on day 3 I'd head there. Just the approach drive is magnificent, then the view from the hotel across the lake is out-of-this-world. Depending on time and weather, you can take a relaxing stroll around the lake. There are also often ranger programs going on, such as a spotting scope setting up in the parking lot at (adjacent) Swiftcurrent Hotel where rangers find bears on nearby mountains that you can look at through their powerful scopes. And if you have extra time, I'd drive to Two Medicine to see the view from there, then take highway 2 back to the west side of the park (avoiding the congested drive through the park).

I've never been to Sandpoint. I can't get enough of Glacier and would never voluntarily take away time from it, especially on a first (and likely only) visit. One of the reasons that Idaho is one 7 states I still haven't visited. :)

May 25, 2020, 10:38:04 PM
Re: Which US national parks have you been to? Which was your favorite? Yes, you can do both in one day, but it may be a fairly long day. It really depends on your travel style and what time you can get out the door. From Whitefish you're looking at about 2:30 to MG (you can beat Google Maps times in MT, though not if you drive through the park). You could get away with about an hour at MG, seeing the hotel itself and the view across the lake, maybe walking around the lake. Obviously if you give it its own day, there's tons more to do there, but 1-1.5 hours should suffice.

Then you drive from MG to Logan Pass, which is probably 1.5 hours in normal conditions (though I've done it in under 1 hour). Parking at LP is a nightmare, so you need to either get there really early before it fills up, or else later in the day (after 3 is likely safe, definitely after 4 is) when it starts to empty out. So by starting with the long drive to MG and spending time there, you can break up the drive back at LP. I'd suggest 2 hours minimum for Hidden Lake with little ones, and ideally another hour to get a taste of the amazing Highline Trail, so 2-3 hours total at LP, then a 1-1.5 hour drive back to your hotel (later in the day, traffic across the park is usually much better). This will still be a long day, and will cost you Two Medicine though, but it's totally doable.

Another option on the west side is the North Fork of the park, the only part of the park that I have not visited. The roads to get there aren't the best, so it gets much less traffic than other parts of the park and may be worth looking into. No experience with anything in Idaho, though Craters of the Moon has been on my list as a place I'd like to make it to one day.

May 26, 2020, 05:25:25 PM
Re: Amex platinum 200 credit upon renewal
Anyone got this credit automatically?

July 27, 2020, 12:58:32 PM
Re: Uman, Uman, Rosh Hashana???
but as a whole, we as a people are spreading disease.
You are creating a chilul Hashem and stoking antisemitism. Learn a little history.

I wear a mask where required by law.

where not required by law u have no problem with spreading disease and so called "chillul hashem"....

For those that don't, they definitely give off the impression that they may be spreading disease. Whether they are or aren't is irrelevant.

i would think that question is quite relevant in fact

For hundreds of years jews were blamed for pandemics which resulted in pogroms. 
which actually is happening right here and now on ddf as per:
but as a whole, we as a people are spreading disease.
There are so many ppl that hate us and we give them ammunition to attack us.
so please dont...

August 31, 2020, 02:30:22 PM
Re: ITA vs Google Flights
gentech. but it always worked fine till now
Ask them, they might of changed some settings around?

September 17, 2020, 01:35:41 PM
Re: 2020 Voter Turnout Go on now and all you will see is his reminders that polls can be off and that Trump can still win and that he's not wrong if Trump wins and that you should still trust him next time.
November 01, 2020, 11:58:47 PM
Re: Which States Have You Been To?
Whoops. Motorcycle? How do you keep yourself cramped like that? I'm 6 ft. and can't hack more than a few hours.

Let's just say that when I write insane I mean insane ;D

November 17, 2020, 01:01:34 AM
Re: Hotel Compensation Master Thread
Booked a 2 BR suite at a residence inn. When I got there I was informed they cancelled the reservation since the room wasn't available. What can I expect and how do I go about doing it?

Paid room at local hotel, plus $100 (in cash) (+90,000 points if your Platinum or above). Other Marriott brands have more compensation.

February 03, 2021, 03:18:07 PM