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For the old age: The LMS thread Have fun and get off my RP thread.

Anyone still sleeping?

May 09, 2013, 09:41:56 AM
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Re: Stuck In Paris- Help needed As someone who freely traveled Italy during Bein HaZmanim, as well as long stop overs is Madrid, Barcelona, and Zurich, I'll say that most 21 year olds can manage on their own. That having been said, ending up somewhere with 0 prep time that doesn't speak English as a first language could be difficult, especially without a laptop or tablet. When I got rerouted unexpectedly through Frankfurt on my way back from Israel once, even though I had a few hours where I technically could have explored, I didn't want to do it without having looked into any info about the area, transportation etc.

I also sympathize with people that feel Paris is particularly dangerous for Jews (though I personally don't agree with that).

April 27, 2017, 08:52:20 AM
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Re: The funny/strange/interesting/random pictures thread My research shows that Americans hate Jews just as much as the poles and Germans.

Read through the internet comments posted annonmously throughout the internet, by Americans, on any content related to Jews....

June 27, 2017, 08:13:33 PM
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
http://www.app.com/story/news/investigations/watchdog/2017/06/27/lakewood-raids-send-some-residents-scrambling/432655001
Looks like at least some people woke up
oy! what a massive painful chillul hashem...

June 27, 2017, 09:51:57 PM
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
Not sure what you are saying... are you saying you don't think this is happening? The stats in the App article are evidence that this is happening. The median income in lakewood is 1/3rd that of a neighboring town with similar property values. Which means they are reporting much less income than the neighboring town while living in the same kinds of houses. It is pretty clear that this is happening on a large scale. No other way to explain it. Folks living in houses valued over 500k and are signed up for benefits designed for the destitute. I just thought they were acting legally (not addressing whether or not it is morally reprehensible). I guess we'll find out how they fare in court but seems like no.
Did you ever take into consideration that none of the people living in those houses, or a very small percentage, actually own the houses in their own names and ot could be parents or siblings who own them. So they may actually be destitute and qualify for benefits while living in the same houses as the neighboring town.

June 28, 2017, 10:34:43 AM
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
BS. They benefited illegally from Medicaid. Lets just say that medicaid had to pay for Insurance $10k per year. THIS is what they benefited illegally. Why the hell should they be charged with what the Hospital costed the Insurance company.  The Insurance policy to itself was fine. Maybe they should be charged with what the mother cooked for supper? Since its because of the medicaid that she was able to be taken care of in the Hospital, and because of the Hospital she was able to return home early, so she has to pay for everything she was able to do for the time she was home because of the Hospitals care??

I don't remember all the details but someone I know who was involved in a much smaller case, had to pay a fine plus the premiums for continuing on medicaid. He didn't have to pay actual benefits. Although in the vast majority of cases, premiums exceed benefits, unless there was a hospitalization  (which I guess is common for women in their 20's and 30's).

In that case there was no FBI or anything. I think it was just the programs' agencies themselves. It was in New York.

June 28, 2017, 11:56:47 AM
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ

Why is cashing out a refi not income? Why is having medicaid paying a bill for you illegitimately not a benefit?
a refi is a loan that you have to payback eventually
Medicaid is just paying the insurance, had you paid for the insurance the bill would be covered by said insurance. In effect the FBI is "double billing"

June 28, 2017, 12:52:23 PM
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes
Wasn't someone quoted as saying that "this is just the beginning" ?
Who warned the community in 2015 ?
The statement from the prosecutor is going to come back to haunt him. Any good defense attorney will seize upon that to show that it was not his clients alleged crime that made them arrest him but that they needed to show something for the millions of dollars spent illegally profiling a religious community. Imagine a prosecutor saying he targeted the black community.

June 29, 2017, 11:58:14 PM
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes
Not about showboating, but about demonstrating supposed results to politicians.
FTFY

Millions of dollars were spent targeting the Lakewood frum community. They need to show something for it.

June 30, 2017, 12:25:44 PM
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes
Not about showboating, but about demonstrating consequences to masses.
How does that go side by side with "innocent till proven guilty" ?
People have had their careers & lives destroyed through allegations & public parading only to have charges dropped. Remember Steven Hatfill ?

June 30, 2017, 12:35:47 PM
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