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On The Road / Re: Master Thread of Discussion on Marriott / SPG Merger
« on: April 16, 2019, 05:20:53 PM »
Made a reservation with 3 nights Ritz cert online. Called in a few weeks later to add on guest , was told "Cant add a guest" (have done numerous times). "Let me cancel and rebook for you and then I can add the guest"...SO I check my account a few seconds later and she didn't use certs she booked it with points at 85K x3 points per night. Call back and reps are clueless, "sorry hotel is now 85K per night"?

Any suggestions??

Sorry, I don't have help now but I have had lots of better success recently calling hotels directly for these kinds of little changes.  They can totally add in the notes another person's name, at the front desk of the hotel.

Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: Thailand Master Thread
« on: April 15, 2019, 12:35:30 AM »

Not AF Flying Blue? Used those for Bangkok Airways last year. 10k OW

On The Road / Re: Hilton Master Thread
« on: April 12, 2019, 07:03:03 PM »
Has anybody had experience booking two separate reservations with the dates next to each other? and having Hilton combing them so you don't have to recheck in.

just email the hotel ahead or tell them upon checkin.  Can also call Hilton and they'll add into the notes.

Up In The Air / Re: What Award Itinerary Did You Just Book/Hold?
« on: April 10, 2019, 12:21:57 PM »
JFK-ZRH-DEL-MLE, 75k AC in J X 2 Pax. 1st 2 legs on ZX 3rd leg on AI

Glad you finally got your outbound flight!

Thank you for creating this thread.
There are a couple boys from New Orleans that are planning on going to one of the Naale schools.

Happy to share. Just curious, how did the boys/families in your community hear about it? I feel like it was such a fluke here with one family finding it online and then telling everyone about it. And if they are going to Sha’alvim feel free to PM me, as I’m very close with a few families with boys there.

Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: Lebanon Master Thread
« on: April 09, 2019, 09:29:38 PM »
I loved his video, especially how he tells all the people bashing him to visit Israel like he visited Saudi!

I decided to started to start this thread because I didn't see anything else about this program on DDF.  Living in a small community, we have limited Jewish High School options and a lot of our children are sent out of town for HS.  In the past couple of years, a number of families in Denver became aware of this Na'ale program (run by the Israeli government) the number of kids attending from our small community has boomed.  I know people, especially from smaller communities, are often looking for Jewish High school options for their kids.

The Na'ale program is totally free, including room and board, except for an initial $600 screening fee when you apply and another $600 when you accept.  You don't have to make Aliyah to go to one of the schools but they are very open about saying that they hope the child will choose to make Aliyah afterward.  The government also invests in this program because their statistics show that a significant number of the families of these students eventually end up making aliyah as well.

Just from Denver, I personally know families with kids in 6 of the 8 schools (I don't know anyone in Denver with children at the two girls Lubavitch High Schools) and people have sent on the program for many reasons including: the child knows he wants to live in Israel so would rather go and become fluent now instead of before college; the family wants to make Aliyah but isn't moving quite yet so the child is going ahead first with Na'ale; the family isn't orthodox per se and didn't want to continue in Orthodox HS but wanted a "Jewish" school so a secular Israeli school fit for their family; the child woudn't fit in to the local Hareidi HS but the Modern option was co-ed and too left wing so the family felt much more comfortable with the Dati Leumi option in Na'ale; the family could afford local Jewish HS on heavy scholarship but not to send a child away to a yeshiva in another city (where at a minimum you will have to pay room and board) so Na'ale enabled them financially to send a child away to Yeshiva, etc., etc.

I just wanted to start this thread so that a.) people would know this existed and that there is no "catch" that this is a real and proper program and b.) if someone was curious they could ask questions (or give answers if they have a kid in the program) without any kind of commitment or "seriousness" of actually calling the program.

Here is the website and the FAQ page:

These are the eight English language Na'ale Schools (they also offer programs in French, Russian, etc.) with a little info on each:

Amana- Girls only Dati Leumi HS, one of the most highly regarded girls Dati Leumi schools in the country, you can see the "Torani Track" video about it at the bottom,

Anieres- Is a Co-ed STEM school affiliated with the Technion (they take classes there once a week starting in 10th grade).  It is the only school with additional academic testing to get accepted and if the child progresses as hoped, they can automatically get accepted to the Technion for college.  In order to continue the program in the Technion for college the child would then have to make Aliyah but would get an automatic deferment of the army as part of the Atuda program, get free tuition and a stipend in college and enter Tzahal as an officer, after graduation. This is a secular school but they have a significant number of (different levels of) observant kids.  They are very friendly and accommodating to them and for example the religious students are never required to be on campus over the weekend, even for "mandatory" in Shabbatot.  The school was supportive of weekday minyanim some boys wanted to organize, etc.

Here is also a video about this program-

Ayanot- Secular, co-ed school,

Beit Chaya Mushka- Lubavitch Girls HS, specifically for the daughters of Israeli, Hebrew Speaking Shluchim,

Beit Chana- Lubavitch HS for English Speaking Girls in Tzfat,

Dror- New Na'ale school that is trying to model itself after American co-ed Modern Orthodox schools although from what I know it's more Conservadox and the majority of kids are not even Shomer Shabbos,

Mosenson- The oldest English speaking school, it's near Tel Aviv, very secular, from what I understand,

Sha'alvim- The boys HS Yeshiva, in Nof Ayalon, its on the same campus as the very well known Sha'alvim post HS yeshiva for Americans and HS and Hesder Yeshiva for Israelis.

Here is a video explaining their Na'ale "Torani" track at Sha'alvim and Amana:

A lot of families in Denver have benefited from basically the hasgacha pratis of a couple families finding out about this program, telling people and answering questions so I just thought I'd create this thread so others could know about it and ask questions too!

Agree 100%. There is a subtle insinuation that had he been allowed to watch more inappropriate things as a child he would have realized his situation sooner. While that may or may not be true in reality, it would kind of highlight the point of how detrimental the Orthodox Jews perceived closed mindedness is, to a non Orthodox Jew. That isn’t the Orthodox (and definitely not chasidic) outlook, and I feel he should have been more careful portraying his feelings in that regard.

I'm not sure how he could have been more careful and the article literally said:
“It’s given me kind of a wake-up call to provide the safest and most loving environment for my children possible, and to know that they will never be judged. That if anything happens to them, they will always have somewhere to turn,” he said.

Both he and his wife are committed to raising their children in an Orthodox household, and believe that keeping children steeped in Jewish tradition and sheltered from the hypersexuality of the outside world is a healthy and loving way to raise children.

General Discussion / Re: Hilton
« on: April 09, 2019, 03:43:13 PM »
Hilton Aspire Amex, 14ppd at Hiltons, 7ppd on travel and since it automatically gives her Diamond status she'll already have that benefit when she checks into the hotel.  Or Hilton Amex Ascend with lower annual fee and 12ppd and 6ppd on airfare.

Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: Maldives Master Thread
« on: April 09, 2019, 12:32:08 AM »
been quite here...

looking for some help,
Im trying to find flights from NYC-MLE for the day that i want there is only mixed cabin with either LH,LX, in J and TK in econ showing on united ( there is one thru air India but only 1 seat avail) there is plenty availability a day earlier problem is i arrive to MLE a day earlier too and don't really feel like seating in the St. Regis Lounge for 24h after 27h of flying  ;) (anyone ever spend a day in the city?)
another option in CX F for 125k, 2 problems with that is 1, its only on wait list (what are my chances of them opening 2 seats,and is it worth transferring 250k points for a "maybe") 2, CX arrives to MLE at 10pm so same issue as flying a day earlier,


Not really for this thread, but how about searching from BOS, ATL, YYZ, IAD, etc and then piecing together a positioning flight?

On The Road / Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
« on: April 07, 2019, 10:56:01 PM »
I am looking for three nights from Oct 6-20th ( Succos) Please send me Best Prices ...

They still have standard rooms available from Oct. 6-11th, if you have points/certs to use.

Goods For Sale/Trade / Re: PSA: Trading With New Members!
« on: April 05, 2019, 03:21:23 PM »
Usually even a couple percent added to the cost will make the deal unviable, especially when you're talking about GC's.

I know, that's why I said this isn't for small purchases, gift cards, etc (so I know this won't help a lot of people).  I was more referring the large amounts people are spending for Marriott weeks or multiple Hilton night certs.  Also, one guy that recently got scammed was for a "Travel Bank" purchase at 25% off.  I don't know how large of an amount he spent but paying an extra little bit for an escrow might have saved him a lot of heartache.

Goods For Sale/Trade / Re: PSA: Trading With New Members!
« on: April 05, 2019, 02:45:03 PM »
Anyone have links to sites that basically do escrow accounts for individual transactions?  It might be helpful for people.  I rented some timeshare weeks off of people years ago on and I know they recommended a company.  I figure the technology has improved since then and prices may have gone down.  I know it's not worth it for small gift cards, etc. but I see a lot of transactions (especially for Ritz/Marriott weeks) for large amounts, where using a third party service like this could be useful.

Destination Guides And Trip Planning / Re: Singapore Master Thread
« on: April 05, 2019, 02:28:28 PM »
Ok, Ok, y'all changed my mind.  No Sands pool pic for me this time lol

Good call. I actually DID pay for a night at the MBS (yes, I know I need to finish my trip but I don't think it was so worth it.  I don't regret it but can't say I'd recommend it to others.  :)

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