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Goods For Sale/Trade / Re: Buy/Sell New/Used Cell Phone Master Thread
« on: April 17, 2019, 09:25:57 PM »
Anyone selling a iPhone 7? Unlocked please pm. Located in Brooklyn

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Just Shmooze / Re: Gift for Female Spouse?
« on: April 11, 2019, 11:16:01 AM »
Pesach is coming up....

Any ideas?

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Just Shmooze / Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« on: March 28, 2019, 12:35:57 PM »
This is a WhatsApp forward.

I'm sure you've heard of the song Adamah V'shamayim, an often-requested song. Some people know and understand the lyrics, most don't. But 99.9% of our community doesn't know the song's origin. So here goes, working backward:


The original song is "Strong Wind, Deep Water" (the original lyrics and the source can be found here and below). It's a song by an earth-worshiping pagan cult, translated into Hebrew, almost word for word, for the Segol group. A Google search will show many results confirming that the song is of pagan (i.e. Avodah Zarah) origins.

Original

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ3F58ZW1wc

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Just Shmooze / Re: Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread
« on: March 28, 2019, 12:32:19 PM »
This is a WhatsApp forward.

I do not know who this "Yehuda" is or any other information.


Thoughts?

I'm sure you've heard of the song Adamah V'shamayim, an often-requested song. Some people know and understand the lyrics, most don't. But 99.9% of our community doesn't know the song's origin. So here goes, working backward:

Before Motti Weiss (aka Matt Dubb) recorded the song, it was recorded and popularized by a Buddhist-style Israeli group by the name of Segol (see here). Little detail is given by Segol that the song is originally in English.

The original song is "Strong Wind, Deep Water" (the original lyrics and the source can be found here and below). It's a song by an earth-worshiping pagan cult, translated into Hebrew, almost word for word, for the Segol group. A Google search will show many results confirming that the song is of pagan (i.e. Avodah Zarah) origins.

I appreciate that this is not intuitive information, the lyrics are subtle. But the fact is that a song by earth-worshippers describing earth worship has crept into our community, and we're now dancing at our simchas (!) to an Avodah Zarah song (literally). If rabbonim knew the above about this song, many might say that one is not allowed to say the bracha "Shehasimcha Bim'ono" at a chasunah where the song is played.

Ever since I researched this song, I've been asked by multiple ba'alei simcha to play it. After giving a short and concise background of the song, the response is absolutely unanimous - both from Chossn & Kalah couples and from bar mitzvah parents: "OMG I didn't know, yeah let's not play that song". Since spreading this info on a social media group for Jewish musicians, there have been a few responses: Some respond with unfortunate leitzanus, and others respond with indifference. Yet many musicians have thanked me for the info and said they would not be playing the song. One artist reached out to me privately to let me know that he's not including the song on his upcoming cover album, as he originally intended. Another artist to whom I reached out regarding this song also decided to not include it in his recently-released cover album.

I would strongly urge you to consider whether or not you should play the song in the future. We wouldn't sing about Gilui Arayos of Shfichus Damim at our heiligeh simchas...singing a song of Avodah Zarah should be no exception. B"H we have many great and leibedik songs to choose from without an Avodah Zarah chant.

Yehuda

P.S. The reason I researched the song, to begin with, is two-fold: 1) The tune (with the repetitive A and B section) has the sound and structure of a classic far-eastern or pre-American chant, and 2) the lyrics convey a spiritual feeling of experiencing nature as an end to itself, rather than experiencing G-d through nature. It sounded extremely foreign and strange to me, not something written by a Jew, let alone a frum Jew.

Strong wind, Deep water; Tall trees, Warm fire
I can feel it in my body; I can feel it in my soul
Heya heya heya heya heya heya ho
Heya heya, heya heya, heya heya heya ho

Strong wind, Deep water; Pure Earth, Warm fire
Soft breeze, Vast Ocean; Bright Sun, Grand Mountain
Sweet kiss, Long River; Earth Live forever

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Credit Cards / Re: capital one recon
« on: March 26, 2019, 05:52:10 PM »
Does capital one refund af fee one month within charging the venture card?

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I'm looking to join a phone plan. Unlimited everything. Please pm me if you have a spot available. Hotspot is a must.

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General Discussion / Re: Getting A Green Card\US citizenship
« on: March 12, 2019, 05:36:25 PM »
Hi. Does anyone have any good recommendation for a immigration lawyer for green card application in Brooklyn? I'm looking to pay less than 1k. Please pm me.

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Goods For Sale/Trade / Re: Airline Gift Cards And Vouchers Master Thread
« on: February 27, 2019, 10:10:02 PM »
Buying $100 WestJet vouchers, please pm me. Thx

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Goods For Sale/Trade / Re: Ikea Gift card
« on: February 16, 2019, 11:13:33 PM »
Looking for a discounted Ikea GC. Please pm

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Just Shmooze / Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« on: February 14, 2019, 05:49:36 PM »
Psa. Sterling is closing up shop. Shelves are being emptied out

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Just Shmooze / Re: Buying Group Master Thread
« on: February 14, 2019, 08:57:17 AM »
well if they start slow and learn as you do they will be able to learn the ins and outs just as you did
Not everyone has a "head" for it.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Buying Group Master Thread
« on: February 14, 2019, 08:56:40 AM »
Nice.
How about instead of answering “ do your own research “ do a mitzva and answer what your experience was/is. Or if you don’t want to answer just don’t reply at all. If you waisted your “valuable time “ to reply, why not make it productive and have a great mitzva of helping another person.
You are right about that but when it comes to risk situations and we can all agree that buying groups are risky and not perfect. There should be enough information on the thread already. But those people who I have helped and something went wrong who do you think they would go to first, the one who helped them or the buying group? Practically when It comes to risk I tell my friends to learn everything they can about what they're involved in and then come back to me.

The real mitzvah would be to tell them (obviously depending on who they are) to not get involved. I have seen to many people thatbare trying to figure out how to start with these groups but most don't understand the risk and headache that MAY exist.

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General Discussion / Re: Movers in brooklyn?
« on: February 14, 2019, 08:51:11 AM »
Does anybody have any suggestions for movers that they have used recently?

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Just Shmooze / Re: Buying Group Master Thread
« on: February 14, 2019, 08:43:43 AM »
when you first learned about buying groups did you know what you were doing??
Yes. I knew exactly what I was getting into. Spoke to people I know who are involved in these things. I knew a the pros and cons - especially when items gets lost/damaged/stolen - and then all your potential earnings disappear. Most of these groups sound like angels, buy for us and we pay you back... In reality if you don't keep track and are on top of your orders in a consistent manner then you will most likely end up losing money or even more valuable, your time.


If someone is asking which groups are good they should start reading from the beginning of the thread. Read about mys late payment, usa's fiasco and the PlayStation scandal. For a regular person to get involved without having guidance will just be huge waste of time unless you have a "business" plan of your own so this won't take up every free moment of your day. /EndRant

Regardless. Everyone should have a hazlozhodik day and do out best to be involved in Torah and Mizvos as that's why we have been created. Have a good day! Lchaim

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Just Shmooze / Re: Buying Group Master Thread
« on: February 14, 2019, 01:43:20 AM »
How do I join a buying group?
Which are the best?
If you don't know what you are doing. Don't bother joining. If you still want to join do you own research.

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