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An article written by Boaz Berkowitz on about the new NY tax law.

"For those of you who weren’t aware, New York State passed a new law that went into effect on June 1, 2008.   The law, dubbed “the Amazon tax,” requires all internet companies with affiliates in NY State to charge sales tax on shipments bound for New York.  The State expects this to increase tax revenue by $50 million.

Why is this law a problem?  Well, according to the Supreme Court’s 1992 ruling in Quill v. North Dakota, companies are obligated to charge sales tax only for states where they have a physical presence.  That is why New Yorkers may have noticed that they need to pay sales tax when making an online purchase from sites like Best Buy (BBY), Circuit City (CC) or Barnes & Noble (BKS), but not from sites like Amazon,, Overstock and others.  The former group has a presence in virtually every state, while the latter set does not. Technically, New Yorkers were always supposed to pay sales tax on purchases from sites like Amazon to the government, but since the web stores weren’t forced to collect the tax, few actually paid.

New York State has found a way around this law by stipulating that New York based affiliates could be constituted as a “physical presence,” though until now, they have generally been interpreted as advertising vehicles.  Affiliates get paid a commission for driving a customer to online stores.  Websites like Amazon have thousands of such affiliates.

Why is this law important?  It means that one of the major advantages that a company like Amazon had over a company like Barnes & Noble is that they did not have to charge sales tax to New Yorkers.  This often resulted in a lower overall price.  Now these companies do need to include tax and it remains to be seen if their more price sensitive customers may no longer be as loyal.  I, for one, am not.   And while a $1.00 sales tax on a book may not be enough to dissuade a customer from making a purchase, tax on a laptop, which could easily add over $100, might.

So how have companies responded? The harshest response came from Amazon and Overstock, which have independently filed lawsuits against New York State challenging the constitutionality of the new law (note: by filing independently, they are forcing New York to defend themselves against two lawsuits rather than one; a considerably more expensive undertaking).  Meanwhile, most sites such as Amazon and have complied and as of June 1st, have been charging sales tax to many an unsuspecting New Yorker.   An email to each of these companies inquiring as to why the sites now charge NY sales tax resulted in an almost identical response which can be summed up as:  New York passed this law, if you have a problem with it, contact them.  As a result, I am sure I was far from the only who complained to the New York Legislature about this.

Overstock, followed by other online retailers were even more creative and decided to dump its 3,400 New York affiliates.  Not only did this protect the company from having to charge sales tax in NY, but it sent a clear message to Albany: keep this law and you will hurt New York small business owners.  As a result many sites like have started a grassroots effort to pressure New York to repeal the law.

There are a lot of online shoppers in New York, and while Amazon and Overstock complain that such a law is unconstitutional or too hard to implement, what it really comes down to is that 10% or more of their customer base is affected by this new law and may defect to the competition.  This poses a major threat to these companies’ profitability which is already being affected by the economic downturn.

Why should those of you who do not live in New York care?  If you ever want to ship an item to a friend or relative in NY, you’ll have to shell out a little extra for NY sales tax, one of the highest in the country.  Even worse, if New York gets away with this law, other states may follow.  California has already considered implementing an “iTunes tax” which would have charged tax on all music downloads, but the law was defeated in committee.  At least for now.

So where do we stand at this point?  It seems that Overstock and Amazon’s gamble may have paid off.  Faced with angry customers, worried affiliates and looming lawsuits, New York State may be about to back down.   The Senate voted unanimously on a bill to repeal the law and the bill has now been passed on to the Assembly for review.  But there is a long way to go until the battle is over. Regardless of what happens, I will likely never see the $15.11 in sales tax I just paid to Amazon for my most recent order."

Tech Talk / New Luggage Identifying Technology
« on: July 23, 2008, 11:12:44 AM »
New Israeli Invention Will Identify Luggage Using colored ribbons to identify luggage coming off the conveyor belt at the airport may no longer be necessary – thanks to a new development by Israeli startup Easy-2-Pick. The company has developed a special “remote control” device that identifies your bag with a special signal. When your bag is within 15 meters of the remote control, a beep is heard and lights go off.

The chip and a remote sensor attached to the bag are paired, so even if everyone else is using the Easy-2-Pick system, you'll be alerted only to the presence of your bags. The company has signed a deal with American Express Travel Services, which will offer it as an option to its customers.

(as reported on )

General Discussion / Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« on: July 20, 2008, 10:12:52 PM »
Interesting that they note that Macallen Scotch and Balvanie 12 year doublewood Scotch
is NOT recommended. as far as i always knew that Macallen was Kosher.

Thanx for making me aware of this.

Deals/Deal Requests / Re: Crocs
« on: July 14, 2008, 12:44:55 PM »

Isn't that an expired code that was running in easter08 and is not available now?

Deals/Deal Requests / Re: Crocs
« on: July 14, 2008, 11:46:46 AM »
If you can wait until the next coupon comes out, shoebuy has $10 off that can be stacked with 10% off and free shipping and free return shipping.
Plus they don't collect sales tax.

Am i missing something $10 off $29.95 is about 33% how do you get that?

Deals/Deal Requests / Re: External Harddrive
« on: July 14, 2008, 11:24:48 AM »
I still didn't get any help from no one  :o

Let's try this i will search for a good deal myself, somebody just give me advise on what to look for like model # or what company is good or maybe a different device that might serve better for my purpose?!

Thanx in advance........

General Discussion / Re: Sprint family plan.
« on: July 14, 2008, 11:15:57 AM »
The direct number for sprint retentions is 1877 775 4886 but always tell them that you were transfered.

Here's another # (866) 267-7139

Deals/Deal Requests / External Harddrive
« on: July 09, 2008, 12:15:51 PM »
My laptop crashed with a virus although i am able to log on in safe mode, i am looking desperately to buy an external hard drive 160gb to back up my info and then i can do a full system restore.

The help i need from my fellow friends at dansdeals is the best deal that i can get for the external hard drive i n ever bought one so i don't know the differences in companies qualities etc.

(any other suggestions that i can do maybe?)

Deals/Deal Requests / Re: Cheap digital camera?
« on: June 30, 2008, 10:23:43 AM »
Under $100

Deals/Deal Requests / Cheap digital camera?
« on: June 29, 2008, 04:30:39 PM »
Anyone know of a cheap but decent digital camera that I can send along with my kids to camp?

Up In The Air / Cancel Airline Ticket
« on: June 26, 2008, 03:04:24 PM »
Can anyone give me some knowledge or previous experience on how to cancel an airline ticket once its booked?

(Example: I have a AA flight to London booked and thanks to Dan at his best with tha LAN deal as posted on i can get it now with British Airways for $300 cheaper)

As a general best Starwood Prefered Guest as Dan has mentiontiond a thousand times (search or the forum for a million explanations why)

I put in a 3 star in Princeton, NJ for $45 and that's what came back, I've had success in many neighborhoods for this price range with priceline.

Just maybe you can spare me the details on how to get lower fares from spg?!

I got the Hyatt Regency in North Brunswick for $45 a night last week which beats all deals you get from starwood.

Credit Cards / Re: AMEX Simply Cash Business Card
« on: June 24, 2008, 01:28:11 PM »
I have the delta consumer card as well, I didn't check if I received the bonus offer obviously I wouldn't cancel the card without making sure to receive the signup bonus.

The only question I still have is would it affect my credit score if I add on a additional card (which I have at least 6 open now) or if I cancel one it will level it to the same total cards I had before.

Thanks again Dan

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